========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:17:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: X-Finder Sort bug... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:12:17 -0500 (EST) Hi Group - For all you other X-Finder users - I just found a bug in the sort menu. Nothing serious - just a minor annoyance. The default sort by name is fine, but the next three menu choices are mislabeled. Selecting TYPE actually sorts by date, SIZE is really sort by type, and DATE is really size. I think this can be patched with Debug by just changing the menu text. Let you know if it works. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:00:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I refer to Rocky's idea below, unfortunately I was not able > > to make it work. When I open ClipVue I notice Load and Save > > F-keys but when I press them they do not bring up any > > file-browse menu to choose a file to either load from or > > save to. Has anyone got some other ideas? > > Clipvue has a default filename (I don't recall if you can change it) > clipvue.txt. So the clipboard either gets saved to or loaded from that > file. Use it as an intermediary file to move data around. Only problem is that when I press Fn-Memo to open Clipvue in Pal Edit (operating under Dos in workgroup 5 of Software Carousel), SC closes workgroup 5, opens workgroup 1 (system manager) and then Clipvue opens up. I can't seem to get Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under system manager? Rian Maartens ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:59:56 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, No, I don't use EMM, unless I'm not aware of it. I am using my 2x/32Mb = palmtop with SC just as I received it from Thaddeus Publishing. The only other things I could add to the story is; 1. that I was deleting about 100 records from one folder in POST/Lx before I went on line by pressing delete 15-20 times repeatedly at a time, 2. that my ISP somehow had a problem with the Newsgroup server and did = not allow a download. (This has happened a number of times though and it has not caused a problem before or since but it does explain the 'Error=3D ***ERROR News2/LX *** ' message), 3. that I loaded a large data file (6 Mb) to my c-drive and that I deleted another datafile of about 7 Mb before I went online. (Could it be that the reason for the problem is that I did not run SC's Disk Optimization after making large changes on the c-drive?) and 4. that my resource pool setting seems to have been too small because I had vertical lines on switching 'palmtops' which I no longer have since I have increased the resource pool size. I hope some of this helps us understand the problem better for future preventative measures. Other WWW/LX general questions: 1. How do I go about updating my WWW/LX version? 2. How do I delete all marked records from a folder in POST/Lx? 3. Is it possible to append the www link where my cursor is in a HTML = document to HOT or does it only append the address of the currently displayed webpage? Rian Maartens > > Just after being online with 'post' in WWW/LX plus, it crashed!!! > > In Dos the message read: > > Fatal error: No mailbox named 'Mail' found > > Exiting WWW/LX > > > > I viewed the post.cfg file in filer and the only contents > > were: > > ÝSYSTEM¨ > > Error=3D*** News2/LX ***|Must configure default NNTP-Server! > > > > I seem to be up and running again since I copied post.cfg > > from my PC backup. > > I had the exact same think happen to me, except post.cfg > was totally destroyed. Since we are using two different > versions of WWW/LX Plus I am sure it is not in the product. > I use SC and I believe you do too. > > I am not pointing a finger at SC because I have used it for > two years now with NO such problems, and this is the first > time, so I am also confident this is not the cause. > > Until just two days ago I was using a DISK-based Resource > pool, not EMM. Two days ago I converted and installed a > 2.5MB EMM for SC to use. It is quite possible that is the > source of the problems. I dunno... > > > Can anyone on the HPLX list offer some explanation for this > > and offer some advice on how to prevent it in future. > > > > I run a 2x/32Mb 200LX with SSC. Post was the only program > > running in 'palmtop' 5 when it crashed. > > Do you use EMM? > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 05:32:11 PST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Paradox for DOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Paradox 3 is excellent and works. Paradox 3 may work but it's more memory. Semper mobilius yor pal al............................. Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:07:01 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Those little rubber footies Comments: To: MCarson@ORST.EDU MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series. > One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its > accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the > screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there > anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware? I suppose to contact Thaddeus or Rundel (Germany). They _must_ have such screws (at least from broken palmtops). GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:54:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > Martin, > > > I will buy the new Nokia 7110 when it is released (if I can find the > > money).... > > > > I will test WWW/LX with it to see if I can get it to work when the time > > comes... > > You may want to look at Jorgen's post. He says that only > the 8x and 9x family of Nokias support AT commands via IR. > So I think the 7x won't work. > The 7110 is brand new showd it on the Cebit in Hannover the other day.... for info go to http://www.nokia.com/phones/7110/phone/data.html It says there: "Data usage You can use Nokia 7110 as a wireless modem. The Nokia 7110 has built-in data communication capability, and a built-in infrared (IrDA) port. It supports GSM data transfer speed up to 14.4 kbps. Data cable DLR-3 connects your Nokia 7110 to your PCs serial (RS-232C) port. " There will be us versions of this phone too. The 7110 is a gsm 900/1800 phone.. > Not quite a good quote. I think all the 8810s that were > tested work fine. SH888 also ok, except one beta tester > that I know of. > Guess I misread something in a mail from you...saw at your website that there had been problem with a Sh888 and not the 8810...sorry > > > There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the > > latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what > > buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info > > on the web.. > > Don't know anything about it, so I cannot comment. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ I have kept myself updated on the 8810/Ce/Psion world because a friend of mine has a 8810/Psion... But no need to worry : I will keep my distance to "the dark side"!!! -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:23 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: The turn off programme MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop off. I used it when creating macros which started at the certain time, because it was the only way to turn the palmtop off after the macro had been finished. I must emphasize that it is not the DISP.ZIP, that turns off the display only. If you have what I need, send it by E-mail. Thanks in advance. Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter) Belgrade Yugoslavia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:34:02 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Re: PCMCIA project Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The horizontal lines appearing on the display with each disk access occured on my 95lx with an original SunDisk card, so I don't think that it's related to the newer cards. > >You can use the HP95 drivers given with the first Sundisk cards (I think >you can find them somewere on the net, if not, I can send them to you). > >BUT, if the driver works there are two problemq : >- some horizontal lines appears at each disk acess, >- after a few minutes (even if your HP is off ! it is very strange) you > go to a "low BACKUP battery" (yes backup, the main goes after !) > >I think these two problems are caused bay the fact that the new CF >drains more current than the old Sundisk cards for the HP95. A solution >could be to use NiMH batteries. I have none of them currently, but you >can try. > >Jacques. >------------------------------ >The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. >"You have new mail" appeared on the screen... >------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: D&A Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi - If you insist on abusing the people who pay money for your software, please don't do it on the list. Abuse them in private. It does two things: 1. It will help your profits as you won't turn off potential customers. 2. It will save bandwidth you so bitterly complain about if some quotes too much of a previous message. Brian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 21:46:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: LED pulsing (again) Comments: To: Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 29 Mar 1999, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Only tech-heads should read on... > > Christopher and Vic agree that : > > (b) Percieved brightness is linearly proportional to average power > > Sorry, but I have to stop lurking to throw a little disagreement into = the > discussion. > > About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to = get > more brightness from LEDs. There was an application note (I believe = from > HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye > perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the = same > average power. You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid > flicker. This is quite interesting. I have worked in the lighting business for 27 years. Our goal has always been to get the most light out (lumens) per watt of power in for every source we designed. This is called Efficacy. In 27 years of attending technical conferences in lighting and related areas I have never seen a source that used pulsing to increase efficacy. The reason your experiment could have produced the results you report could be that the LED has a non-linear output. That is, if the current is doubled, its light output may more than double. This is very different than proposing that the eye behaves in a non-linear manner. However, I do want to be open minded about this. I will post the question over in sci.enrg.lighting and also ask the human factors experts at the Lighting Research Center at RPI. (www.lrc.rpi.edu) Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 22:21:42 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Lotus 123 help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I remember someone looking for good Lotus disks. I was in a second hand store today. I found two sealed packages of 123 ver 2.3 DOS for $12.95 and disks only for ver2.2 for $5. If this will help anyone, let me know. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:16:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Great. It seems to me we all use different versions of >WWW/LX Plus and I doubt it is a WWW/LX Plus issue. It also >looks like a common thread is that we use EMM and SC. The problem is most likely folks using old versions of TREMM with SC. I haven't had a problem for a very long time now and I haven't used an SC swap file in years. I fixed a few bugs in TREMM a year or so ago and haven't had anything else creep up since then. If folks are still getting a corruption now with SC and the 1.4a or 1.4b version of TREMM.EXE then I would suspect SC or their configuration at that point. The latest version of INSTEMM.EXE v1.3 uses less memory to create the swapfile so that it can be run from System Manager more successfully and TREMM.EXE has several bug fixes, includes a faster page swapping mechanism, and has a more robust swapfile checking routine that gets run each time TREMM.EXE is loaded from CONFIG.SYS. The checking routine replaces the CHKEMM program that used to be included in the distribution and this makes sure that the swapfile has not moved. You cannot create an EMM swapfile with any other program than INSTEMM as it contains information about the location of the swapfile that TREMM uses. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 00:15:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: StockChart Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh? Didn't see it on your site... Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: A Meshar To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 4:56 PM Subject: Re: StockChart > Philipe, > > > Has anyone tried StockChart (http://www.leive.com/dps.htm)? What did you > > think? Anyone wants to sell it? > > I think it is a fantastic product. D&A sells it now... > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:15:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: WWW/LX Plus Version 2 Updated. Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Christopher Lott: I publicly apologize to you for being less than charitably courteous, if not outright rude - I think the latter characterises accurately the tone of my post to you regarding updates and upgrades of WWW/LX Plus Version 2. I apologize. I have been answering the same question over and over again, mostly in public heere. I have tried any number of things to mae it more clear, and I am totally, completely at my wits end and absolutely frustrated with the fact that I am unable to convey this. (I believe you and I even had a very similar email in February this year or December last year...) Anyway, this frustration of mine notwithstanding, there was no need for me to be as harsh in my reply as I was. I am sorry, and I owuld like to know how I make amends to you, I have obviuously hurt you completely unnecessarily. Please accept my apology. I also would like to apologise to the rest of the members of this list who have read my response. I have shown exceptional lack of judgement and respect to Chris Lott, and to you all. Avi Meshar D&A Software, Inc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 01:27:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: HP200LX + Ericson SH888? Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > There has been problems with Psion and Ce/8810. Those with not the > > latest softwareversion has problems..(just a tip) I do not remember what > > buttons to push to view the software version but you can find this info > > on the web.. > > Don't know anything about it, so I cannot comment. *#0000# gives the verson of the 8810 software. Or AT+CGMR. Apparently 4.05 is a fix for Psion and CE and Win98. Also works with WWW/LX. . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 02:05:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Out for awhile... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well, it looks like I am going to be somewhat out of full commission for several weeks. The message I recently posted to Chris really shook me up and into reflection that I must go back to the things I did best for me on the the people around me. I basically like people A LOT, and especially Palmtoppers. I realize, too, that I strayed from my basic premises to the extent that it is possible for me to inflict hurt on people around me as I did to Chris. I am not going anywhere, but I'll be spending a lot more time back in activities which I have left in the past few months. These are activities that tend to heal me, tend to focus me, tend to bring out in me the side that is cheerful, funny, helpful, constructive, likes people, and is happier. NONE of the D&A operations will be impacted in any way. Since I remain put all this will go on. - SUPPORT OPERATIONS will continue amongst Stan, Helmuth, Tony, Andreas, and myself, same as before. - ORDER FULFILLMENT will remain at the same pace, perhaps faster. - PARTICIPATION ON LIST: I will be lurking more, and more spradic about reading, and will probably will have a lot less time to post, here and in other venues. But what is absolutely necessary, I'll post, of course. I am very sorry about this incident, but hopefully it served to get me back to what I am best at. The hurt I inflicted extends beyond Chris Lott's and the list here, but also to my partner, our Beta Team, and so on. that is not acceptable to me. I really have to pay attention to what happened here, right now, and seriously. Anyway, I will be intensively "at it" :) for about three weeks. I hope this is sufficient time. Avi Meshar D&A Software, Inc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:02:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU I have a copy of Paradox for DOS ver 3.5 complete with all documentation if you're interested let me know. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:13:17 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: The 200LX is Everywhere! Comments: To: eedmmr@EED.ERICSSON.SE, No Name Available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Yesterday I saw (just by accident) that the dutch railroad > conductors using the 200LX to give timetable and fare > information! So it ain't just freaks using it... ;P > You also see the judges on the ATP tour (tennis) using them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:13:25 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: better coords for world time database? Comments: To: David Lawrence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html > stuff? I bet there is a lot of interest. I sure hope you do post the World Time File to the Super Site. Also, what is the CIA Fact Book? It sounds a bit like an encyclopedia? Thanks, Steve Soper - East Jave, Indonesia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:59:02 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: better coords for world time database? In-Reply-To: <18A6B96446A@probolinggo.wasantara.net.id> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steve Soper wrote: > Also, what is the CIA Fact Book? It sounds a bit like an > encyclopedia? It's a list of information on all the countries in the world. Statistics like population, GNP, etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:21:46 GMT Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Organization: Completely Disorganized Subject: Re: D&A Software Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine In-Reply-To: <19990401122400.BDNQ22687@geocities.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:24:00 +0000, you wrote: >If you insist on abusing the people who pay money for your software, >please don't do it on the list. Abuse them in private. It does two >things: Avi must have ran out of prozac again, he wigs out like this at least monthly... Whew... Last time it was me sending him an *evil* 2K logfile.. :) -- Walter R Francis http://wally.hplx.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:23:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: better coords for world time database? Comments: To: Steve Soper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/index.html Steve Soper wrote: > > > > > If there is interest, I could post it to super with my html > > stuff? > > I bet there is a lot of interest. I sure hope you do post the World > Time File to the Super Site. > > Also, what is the CIA Fact Book? It sounds a bit like an > encyclopedia? > > Thanks, > Steve Soper - East Jave, Indonesia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:50:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how > can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under > system manager? Just open the clipvue.txt file as you would any other file. I don't use PE but it can move between more than one file. Open file X. Then if you need the info in clipvue.txt, open it, copy and past between PE windows or views or whatever PE calls different files. And if you want info from PE moved to sysmgr application, save the data to clipvue.txt. Then go to sysmgr, call clipvue.exm, and load the TEXT file into the clipboard. Then paste into the sysmgr application of your choice. But first, in sysmgr from memo or wherever you get the clipped data, you need to call clipvue and save the "clipboard" into clipvue.txt. It does take a few steps but it is far better than nothing. We worked hard on Gilles to create this application! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:05:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <19990401175013.ISEA13701@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This subject came up a couple of months ago, and a program does the same thing in Windows was mentioned (allows 'partial' use of the clipboard with non-Windows applications) - does anyone recall what the name of that program is? tia, Claud At 05:50 PM 4/1/99 +0000, you wrote: >> Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how >> can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under >> system manager? > > >Just open the clipvue.txt file as you would any other file. I don't use >PE but it can move between more than one file. Open file X. Then if >you need the info in clipvue.txt, open it, copy and past between PE >windows or views or whatever PE calls different files. And if you want >info from PE moved to sysmgr application, save the data to clipvue.txt. >Then go to sysmgr, call clipvue.exm, and load the TEXT file into the >clipboard. Then paste into the sysmgr application of your choice. > >But first, in sysmgr from memo or wherever you get the clipped data, you >need to call clipvue and save the "clipboard" into clipvue.txt. > >It does take a few steps but it is far better than nothing. We worked >hard on Gilles to create this application! (G) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:18:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Unknown Name Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:45:37 -0500 (EST) 02h45m37s ago ... On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Rian Maartens wrote: > ... > Only problem is that when I press Fn-Memo to open Clipvue in > Pal Edit (operating under Dos in workgroup 5 of Software > Carousel), SC closes workgroup 5, opens workgroup 1 (system > manager) and then Clipvue opens up. I can't seem to get > Clipvue to open while in a workgroup running in Dos. So how > can I access the info in clipvue.txt if I don't run under > system manager? Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows: ÝPE¨ {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter} (there, I just used it ;-) ) Now when in PalEdit, "AltPaste" inserts text from ClipVue HTH...Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:23:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Keys in WP51 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more palmtop-friendly? Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys working... And things like that? How about for allowing combinations like Alt+F to select the File menu? (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F, as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.) Any solutions would be appreciated. Even a special TSR. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:28:45 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Avi's desperation Comments: To: support@dasoft.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I also would like to apologise to > the rest of the members of this list who have read my > response.... No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional downpour. Keep the good work up ! Regards Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:38:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-Finder Sort bug... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:27:06 -0500 (EST) Hi again, group - A follow-up on my post about X-Finder file sorting: Tried patching the menu text with Debug, and everything seems to work fine. If you want to try this, the part to patch starts at offset 8F6B (906B with Debug). At this location, change "Type" to "Date", change "Size" to "Type", and "Date" to "Size". DO NOT change anything but the text! BTW - do this on a COPY of finder.exm - NOT your working file. I thought of posting a Debug script to make the patch, but if I made a typo, and your palmtop crashed, you just might get PO'd 8-) -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:45:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Avi's desperation In-Reply-To: <199904011828.UAA15457@prometeo.activanet.es> from "Winfried Zettelmeyer" at Apr 1, 99 08:28:45 pm Content-Type: text > No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional > downpour. Keep the good work up ! I guess I would like to second this notion. I was a little surprised about the reaction my question received from Avi, but I had come to expect that this was just part of his way of expressing himself. I wasn't really bothered by the message, and have long ago learned to filter through these kinds of replies from Avi to get to the real meat of the matter. Of course, I would prefer everyone be nice and polite all the time... Anyway, I wouldn't want Avi to abandon his palmtop development efforts on account of my stupid question. I own two D&A products, and have been pleased with them and would recommend them to friends. Keep up the good work guys... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:04:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: LED pulsing (again) In-Reply-To: from "Jez Cunningham" at Mar 29, 99 09:38:54 am Content-Type: text > About 25 years ago I was working on an application where we wanted to get > more brightness from LEDs. There was an application note (I believe from > HP) that due to the phenomenon of "persistence of vision", the eye > perceives a pulsed light to be brighter than a continuous light of the same > average power. You have to pulse it faster than about 50Hz to avoid > flicker. Jez: I've been trying to search the HP app notes for this, and haven't had any luck. Can you remember any more about this note than what you've told us so far? I would really like to learn more about this subject. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:13:30 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Another IRDA driver Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paal Rasmussen wrote: > Could you please elaborate? > Which IR adapter? Is there a receiver/transmitter that can be driven from > the serial port readily available? The device I'm using is a transmitter which is attached by cable to the serial port of my RS 6000. The box is labled "Puma technologies - Tranxit pro - Infrared Kit - including infrared adapter". I only used the adapter, of course, the software went right back into the box. After setting the right line parameters (9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit) and reconfiguring the RS 6000's getty settings I was able to log in and also to use kermit. > I am running Linux on a machine, and would like to connect to the LX. Check out peter w.'s LXFileman package which works on top of lxtools. lxbackup is also included there: http://www.clark.net/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm To backup just fire up the file manager and configure communication once, place the HP-LX somewhere in the IR transmitters range and enter | $ lxbackup -v | backup C:\QUICKEN\QHP.CFG, 233 bytes ... done | backup C:\QUICKEN\QDATA.PDT, 332288 bytes ... Your Linux box might allow higher transfer rates. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:50:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice Comments: To: Rian Maartens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:39:33 +1200 (NZT) 04h12m53s ago ... On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 07:26:40 -0800 (PST), Rian Maartens wrote: > 1. How do I go about updating my WWW/LX version? Visit www.dasoft.com > 2. How do I delete all marked records from a folder in > POST/Lx? Press the key with the big back-arrow on it and then press "M" Or press MENU H(for Help) and then "Help for Keys" and see what all the keys can do for you. Instead of using the backspace key you can use Shift-DEL.... > 3. Is it possible to append the www link where my cursor is in a HTML document > to HOT or does it only append the address of the currently > displayed webpage? F5 works for the currently displayed page. If the page contains links you want to visit direcly from HV.HOT, then visit them and save their links. Or if the page contains many links you might want to visit later then just save the link of the page you are on and use it as a jumping off point again later? Regards, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: cc: Andreas Garzotto A: Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane! What did I do to deserve this? And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk. But at least business won't go down. Still, I can not believe the incredible idiocy I am surrounded by. First the "customers" complain about the high prices we charge, not understanding that this is a high-margin business because there are so few customers. Barflebits! They find our products difficult to use and they do not understand our upgrade policies because they do not read the documentation. If they would only take some time to carefully read the RTF*M or readme files for each product we would cut our support requests in half. But we can not even depend on palmtoppers to show faint signs of intelligence these days. I am ready to give up the business as it is more trouble than it is worth. I would advise that you stop work on the new products immediately as I will not sell them anymore. The SSL version of WWW/LX we will release as freeware but the other products we will sell to a different vendor. Let them deal with the headaches. BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work for WWW/LX 1.x. It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:38:44 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joerg Scheiner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joerg Scheiner Subject: Re: better coords for world time database? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please post the update to SUPER > I have a worldtime file with over 900 cities, all painstakingly research= ed > and > with the most accurate lat/long figures I could find. I also snip > In my worldtime file I have also corrected the erroneous time-zone info = for > all > entries and updated country name-changes and other data changed from = when > it was burned into rom by the grand HP guys. Joerg Scheiner ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:03:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Printer Codes...? Hi All, I know someone posted a great set Ýor link to¨ printer codes we can use. Does this sound familiar to anyone? I've started using the IrDA adaptive software for the LX Ýfrom SUPER I think¨ and want to enter codes that will change an HP LaserJet 5p to Times New Roman, affect font size, etc. Haven't tried it yet, but does anyone have any special warnings/advice regarding making something *BOLD,* etc. in Memo, and making sure it prints that way? TIA, --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -----Original Message----- From: Gerhard Gonter Ýmailto:gonter@ZECHINE.WU-WIEN.AC.AT¨ Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 1:14 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Another IRDA driver Paal Rasmussen wrote: > Could you please elaborate? > Which IR adapter? Is there a receiver/transmitter that can be driven from > the serial port readily available? The device I'm using is a transmitter which is attached by cable to the serial port of my RS 6000. The box is labled "Puma technologies - Tranxit pro - Infrared Kit - including infrared adapter". I only used the adapter, of course, the software went right back into the box. After setting the right line parameters (9600 baud, 8 bit, 1 stop bit) and reconfiguring the RS 6000's getty settings I was able to log in and also to use kermit. > I am running Linux on a machine, and would like to connect to the LX. Check out peter w.'s LXFileman package which works on top of lxtools. lxbackup is also included there: http://www.clark.net/~peterw/LXFileman/info.htm To backup just fire up the file manager and configure communication once, place the HP-LX somewhere in the IR transmitters range and enter | $ lxbackup -v | backup C:\QUICKEN\QHP.CFG, 233 bytes ... done | backup C:\QUICKEN\QDATA.PDT, 332288 bytes ... Your Linux box might allow higher transfer rates. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:13:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: I've almost had it. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar wrote: > Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane! What did I do to deserve this? And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk. But at l e > ast business won't go down. Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama ! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:21:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: I've almost had it. In-Reply-To: <199904012113.PAA09209x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Maybe this wasn't supposed to go to the list, ... At 03:13 PM 4/1/99 -0600, you wrote: >On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar wrote: > >> Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane! What did I do to deserve this? And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:29:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes. And on 1 April, too... Jeff Johns wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar wrote: > > > > Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama ! > > 73 Jeff > > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:30:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ ÝHPLX-L¨ I've almost had it. Whoofa! I knew that archiving older versions was good for something... hey, comports abandon/pirate-ware guy, you readin' this? > > BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work > for WWW/LX 1.x. It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x > anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:34:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hmmm.... this is getting to be like a TV drama ! April Fools!!!! Or maybe just one fool! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:25:04 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Agentrapid@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roy Stroud Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit April fool, right? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:50:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Avi - at the risk of irritating you - I would like to note that I already have a full time job. All I want is the program to work, reliably. Actually, what I do does involve trials and research, but of a different kind. Mikhail > Instead of losing your patience with it, you could set up > some good trials and research with the rest of us so we can > all find a solution. I just wrote to Rian than we should > compare setups. Did you use EMM when you had you crashes > with SC? > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:23:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: LX SCSI addon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, Seems like there is a solution to a long sought LX addon: SCSIiii! It is called the Olympus DIMO, about 3 matchboxes big, 200grams. Developed for up to 10,000 pics storage on MO drive/disks for use with the Olympus C-1400XL camera, it has RS-232C DB-9 on one end (8-bit, no parity) and an Apple-style DB-25 SCSI on the other. It sucks power from SCSI bus and is slow: 115,2kb/s serial side, 100KB/s on SCSI side. Pro: It has flash upgradeable firmware. Supports the Olypmus PowerMO 230II and 640MB drives as is. I wonder if it's suitable for the HPLX, say for ZIP use? One thing I'm concerned about, that it may support only unidirec- tional transfer or has hardwired SCSI subset only for bad. (This little box has two buttons on top to d/l from camera). IMO, someone should test this thingie ASAP; as RS-232 devices may not be around for long, considering all the USB craze the Win98 brought. It would be a pity to miss the opportunity. BTW, the DIMO was announced in Sept 1998 (that is 6 month ago). Noone noticed it? (I am not trying to flame, just curious) I came across a photo of it in a weekly's test of C-1400 camera. You can find specs, announcement, photos (english and german) at: or I am no way connected to Olympus, just found it by mistake. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:34:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Out for awhile... Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: A Meshar To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:47 AM Subject: Out for awhile... >Well, it looks like I am going to be somewhat out of full >commission for several weeks. The message I recently Avi, a little Vaca can really help a lot. Recharge those batteries... Darren. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:53:25 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Online Errors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Apparently many seem to think News/LX should drop the headers and resume >at the error point when it next connects? No, I don't object to the current method of operation; I only questioned what was happening because I didn't understand why I was getting headers when _I_ didn't rrquest them. Now that I understand what is happening recovery is pretty easy. I select all headers and go online again (and hope I don't get another connection problem). cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:06:48 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: news.hplx.net Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news server? I keep getting a server not found with LXTCP today. Is it down? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:10:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: news.hplx.net In-Reply-To: <199903011706.PNR04843@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news server? I keep > getting a server not found with LXTCP today. Is it down? Nope. It's working fine, and hasn't changed IP addresses since Monday... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:05:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Carpman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Carpman Subject: End of an era: nevermind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I've changed my mind about trashing the 100lx. While I cannot repair it in it's current state, I can rebuild it. My plan: 1) Remove the internals from the plastic case. 2) Find a more suitable case, and mount the palmtop inside. 3) Add features. For the first version I am planing a modem, tripple battery arangement, internal 14400 modem, and a BIG(, Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: Out for awhile... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, I've been there and done that to. I think anyone who works in a technical field comes to the point of frustration in answering the same question over and over. You spoke out of that frustration and we (at least I) understand. Don't be away too long...... and don't beat yourself up...... we'll do that d8¬) Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:30:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Carson, Jon A." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Carson, Jon A." Subject: Re: Out for awhile... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Sprague Ýmailto:eugarps@IBM.NET¨ > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 5:24 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Out for awhile... > > > Avi, > > I've been there and done that to. I think anyone who works > in a technical > field comes to the point of frustration in answering the same > question over > and over. You spoke out of that frustration and we (at least > I) understand. > Don't be away too long...... and don't beat yourself up...... > we'll do that > d8¬) > > Bill > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > AMEN to that !!! Jon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:47:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: Version of POST/LX preceding 2.2 (16 Jan 1999) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm experiencing some problems with the latest version of POST/LX. When downloading headers only, the previous version hung up right after finishing up counting headers; on the other hand, the current one (2.2) doesn't hang up until it displays the subjects and the message senders. To assure myself that this staying-on-line is completely useless, I pulled the phone line out of the modem, while the programmme was displaying the subjects and the senders, and nothing happened: it did the same job as if it stayed on the line. Can you tell me where could I find the previous version? Or, if someone has it (if /s/he didn't upgrade the POST/LX), I would ask him/her to send me the POST.EXE file by E-mail. Thanks in advance. Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter) Belgrade Yugoslavia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:02:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Mo'dem Woes I've been having the oddest run of luck with modems lately. I cannot get any sound feedback from the modem. You know all that screetching and squawking that warms the heart to hear - I get none of it. I can hear the pick-up and the line drop but no connection noises. I've tried the M options including M2 for speaker always on and that doesn't have any effect. I've also tried the L options but no volume level works. The problem went away once for two connects immediately after a reformat of the hard drive. After the two connections, it returned to silence. I know it must be me, however, because I've got the problem with three different PCMCIA modems used in either the HP200lx or a laptop, two internal modems on two separate desktops, and one external modem on a third desktop. The PCMCIA modems are a 14.4 MHz X-Jack, a Motorola 28.8 cellular, and a Compaq 14.4. The desktop modems are all USR Sportsters (a 28.8, 33.6, and 56K). Anyone know how I might get the sound back? I really like the confirmation hearing the noise gives. Thanks. Larry Zimmerman ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:07:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Frank McConnell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: SC and 1-2-3 (was Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice) In-Reply-To: "R. Christopher Lott"'s message of Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:40:40 +6600 "R. Christopher Lott" wrote: > I'm aware of this, too. But Thaddeus provided a program with the > SSC package that claims to be able to load up Lotus 123 in a SC > work area - I suspect that is must somehow invoke the system > manager to do this. I don't have access to my manuals at the Uh, LOAD123.COM? I have plain SC and see it there, but I'm at work and the manual is at home and I don't use it so don't remember how to use it. My guess is that it's a key-stuffer of some sort that you run from a work area batch file before starting System Manager in that work area. Even without LOAD123.COM, it's possible to run System Manager in multiple work areas, and once you've done that you can open 1-2-3 manually in any one of the work areas and SC will (as with most System Manager applications) remember which work area it's open in. I keep two System Manager work areas just so I can have my phone book, appt, calculator, &c open in #1 and still have lots of memory in #2 for 1-2-3 with a largish spreadsheet. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:46:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: ÝFwd: Reply to Patrick West 3/22 Jeteye Question¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------85B9D6A48CCA787879BE79D3" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------85B9D6A48CCA787879BE79D3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D --------------85B9D6A48CCA787879BE79D3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Delivered-To: patrickwest@ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net Received: (qmail 4910 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 22:20:47 -0000 Received: from mail3.uswest.net (204.147.80.19) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:20:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 7916 invoked by alias); 1 Apr 1999 22:20:46 -0000 Delivered-To: Patrickwest@uswest.net Received: (qmail 7903 invoked by uid 0); 1 Apr 1999 22:20:45 -0000 Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (198.81.17.69) by mail3.uswest.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 1999 22:20:45 -0000 Received: from GMSMAGIC1@aol.com by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id 9NYa015184; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: GMSMAGIC1@aol.com Message-ID: <366c4975.3703f0f4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:19:32 EST To: Patrickwest@uswest.net Cc: garyflash@tritium.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Reply to Patrick West 3/22 Jeteye Question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Hey Patrick (and all else that care!), You asked back on 3/22 whether a Jeteye infrared device you read about will work with the palmtop. Well, I wanted to respond to your question sooner, but for whatever reason, I can's seem to send any messages to the LX Forum email server (yet, ironically, I have no problem receiving other people's mail off the forum). Maybe as a favor in return for my reply to your question, you could both post my answer to your question on the forum for others and also send a message to the forum requesting assistance with my sending problem. I don't know who runs the forum, but I want to be able to send messages to the forum from my email account gmsmagic1@aol.com. Yet I want my forum mail to continue going to garyflash@tritium.net. Anyways, to answer your Jeteye question about whether this device will work with the palmtop, the answer is most assuredly yes. I have been using the jeteye device for around 8 years now. I have one hanging off the parallel port on my laser printer at work and at home. I simply point the palmtop at the jeteye device and press Fn 0 (Prt Sc) and out comes my report or screen shot on my printer. It sure beats using annoying serial cables. A couple side notes though. I have been using the older Jeteye model 9510, which is no longer sold. The 9510 uses what is called SIR (slow infrared capability) technology, which is what is designed to work with the palmtop. The newer model 9580 jeteye uses FIR (fast infrared capability) or IRDA technology instead. Fortunately, both the S.U.P.E.R. site on the web and the company that sells this FIR device (Extended Systems), can provide you with the FIR driver for free which enables the 9580 to work just fine on the palmtop according to Extended Systems. Finally, if you pursue this further, you should note that the Jeteye device does not work when the palmtop has Software Carousel loaded. I therefore have a macro that quickly REM's out the SC on boot up from the autoexec file whenever I need to print something. Also, you need to install the jeteye software on the palmtop, load driver command jeteye.sys in the config.sys file and set your print baude rate at 115.2 under setup on the palmtop. It may sound complicated, but it's actually quite simple. Extended Systems is reachable at 1-800-235-5756 (I do not work for them - just a satisfied customer). The jeteye device should run about $150 or less through dealers. Hope this helps, Gary Silverman --------------85B9D6A48CCA787879BE79D3-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:58:34 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: news.hplx.net Works now. Logged me right in. Guess I just had to complain and the binary gods waved their hands:¬)# David Sargeant writes: > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > Anybody know if there's something wrong with the news server? I keep > > getting a server not found with LXTCP today. Is it down? > > Nope. It's working fine, and hasn't changed IP addresses since Monday... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:02:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: hp 200 lx emulator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006D_01BE7CB5.3328F6C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BE7CB5.3328F6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE??? (i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it) thanks.. ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BE7CB5.3328F6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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i'am looking for a emullator of hp = 200 lx for=20 windows CE???
(i'm using a 200 lx and want to use = a 360 lx=20 with it)
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_006D_01BE7CB5.3328F6C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:48:11 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: hp 200 lx emulator > i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE??? > (i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it) > > > thanks.. Whats windows CE? Is that the same as Crash CE? Or Clunk CE? There is an emulator. Its written by Ian Dean. You might check www.thaddius.com. They'll probably have the info. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:00:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Kalau Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Kalau Subject: compaq dynamouse In-Reply-To: <199904020006.RAA15520@canuck.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" wonder if you could use this for the HP200lx... http://www.compaq.com.au/dynamouse/productinfo.html Hmm... it _is_ april 1st... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 20:39:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Keys in WP51 Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried creating a new keyboard in WP? (Shift+F1, K) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:34:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 In-Reply-To: <37043BE3.E18B77DB@enol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote: > Have you tried creating a new keyboard in WP? (Shift+F1, K) Yup. Tried that. But many keys can't be redefined, it seems... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:36:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: 123 v2.2 Disk Comments: To: Steve Novosad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, Thanks for the files. The 123.exe and 123.set seem like they might work. The dates are 6/27/90 rather than 7/19/89. That might be the difference between a 3.5 and 5.25 disk. I think it is immaterial. It looks like I need a one more file if I could trouble you. One may be hidden. It is: init.exe There is an init.ri, but Norton Utilities pulled that one up. If the disk has been used, I think the init.exe get erased. Thanks. Steve Novosad wrote: > At 07:52 AM 4/1/99 -0700, you wrote: > >So far, they've all been corrupted. If you could send them, I would > appreciate > >it, just need 123.exe and 123.set v2.2. Thanks. > > Bob, > > I think this one is clean. We have four copies > here and two are clean. If not, please destroy > and I will hunt down the others. > > Steve > > P.S. I checked this against a second copy, so it > should be good to go. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: 123.ZIP > 123.ZIP Type: Download File (application/zip) > Encoding: base64 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:25:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Avi's desperation Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > No problem, Avi ! Most of us carry an umbrella for the occasional > downpour. Keep the good work up ! :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:13:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: Agentrapid@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The joke is not funny, and it was not posted by me, but by someone who has highjacked my identity and spoofed the email. I have no access to the server where this was posted. Ugly, but effective in embarrassing me. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > April fool, right? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:12:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yes, and I hope you know it is not coming from me. Check the date, and check the headers. I have no access to the servers there, and in the past week I use Ricochet exclusively! Other stylistic problems: I never call Andreas "A.", and in a message to him I never use "*"s to mask x-rated words! :) --- I am also far and away from being a "90-pound jerk" - much more heavy than that! :) ... Anyway... I've been spoofed. Not the first time here. Sorry I have been the source to wake up this bad boy. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:12:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ ÝHPLX-L¨ I've almost had it. Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit He wrote it!!! Whddaya mean read it? Anyway, check the headers carefully, it is a spoof. And the date fits too! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > Whoofa! I knew that archiving older versions was good for something... hey, > comports abandon/pirate-ware guy, you readin' this? > > > > > BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work > > for WWW/LX 1.x. It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x > > anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:13:02 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Claud: Whoever spoofed my email DEFINITELY wanted it on the list!!! What a great way to embarrass me! Check the date, check the style, etc... It was not posted by me. Someone uses my name and email address etc. He/she has done it before to another list member (Peter Border, I believe!). I use Rocochet exclusively lately and have no access to the server where this was posted. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > Maybe this wasn't supposed to go to the list, ... > > At 03:13 PM 4/1/99 -0600, you wrote: > >On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:43:01 -0500, A Meshar wrote: > > > >> Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane! What did I do to > deserve this? And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible > customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some > kind of 90-pound jerk. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:37:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Version of POST/LX preceding 2.2 (16 Jan 1999) Comments: To: Dejan Radic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dejan, > I'm experiencing some problems with the latest version of > POST/LX. When downloading headers only, the previous > version hung up right after finishing up counting headers; > on the other hand, the current one (2.2) doesn't hang up > until it displays the subjects and the message senders. To > assure myself that this staying-on-line is completely > useless, I pulled the phone line out of the modem, while > the programmme was displaying the subjects and the senders, > and nothing happened: it did the same job as if it stayed > on the line. Ok, if I understand it right: 2.1 hung up as soon as the counter was done counting (I assume you watched the modem lights...) Version 2.2 does the counting, then paints the screen with the messages, is this right? As I experience Post/LX 2.2, it goes back to the same screen I had. So if I start in the message list (each message takes one line) and press F5 to go online, that is where I come back to. If I am on the main screen, where each folder has one line, then press F5 then that is where I return. What puzzles me is the reference to "was displaying the subjects and the senders". Do you mean you see some list of senders or are you refering to the message list view (each message takes one line)? If that is what you mean, maybe try to go online when in the main screen. Also, how much time do you experience? In my version it takes a second, no more. Actually, with the Ricochet modem, after the program is done online, it takes almost 60 seconds before the modem actually breaks the connection, even in Datacomm. So maybe this is a modem issue? I am really not sure... > Can you tell me where could I find the previous version? > Or, if someone has it (if /s/he didn't upgrade the > POST/LX), I would ask him/her to send me the POST.EXE file > by E-mail. I don't have the older versions unfortunately. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:46:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ ÝHPLX-L¨ I've almost had it. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oops! > He wrote it!!! Whddaya mean read it? Anyway, check the > headers carefully, it is a spoof. And the date fits too! I forgot to put the :) here! I don't know who spoofed my email address. I _do_ know this happened here before (Peter Borders?), and I know that the headers of the spoofed message reveal that it came from a server I do not have access to. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 03:06:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: hp 200 lx emulator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 8:50 PM Subject: Re: hp 200 lx emulator > >Whats windows CE? Is that the same as Crash CE? Or Clunk CE? Windows CE is the proper long winded name for WINCE which is a computer OS for handhelds named for its tendancy to cause uncontrolable spasms in the user. Dan driden@stlnet.com >There is an emulator. Its written by Ian Dean. You might check >www.thaddius.com. They'll probably have the info. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:24:22 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Non-Experts: WWW/LX setup or update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi WWW/LX users, since I tend to forget a lot of things, I use my 200LX ;) Especially I hardly remember how I've set up WWW/LX at the last update. To my knowlwdge, it's not recommended to use the old configuration files - the installation of an update is like a new installation - with the additional problem that there are files, msgs, and backups already, which are to be taken over. I started to make notes on paper, but I don't like that - what's the LX for? A printout of the configuration files doesn't help too much, since it's hard to find where to enter which data in setup screens to regain a valid configuration file. So now my question: Whats the best way to setup/update WWW/LX (or parts)? Does someone have template files, which contain fields for the data which have been entered in setup screens? Using Copy&Paste would make the next setup easy Thanks in advance.. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:18:36 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Hi Avi, one of the biggest advantages of our LX is, that it can be used in so many different ways by so many different people. So we are all different in respect to handling our LX! If someone doesn't spent the necessary time to be an expert in an area where others are, then this doesn't mean anything! Wouldn't it be helpful to the list members if we could mark our msgs according to content *and* expected answers? 'Fluff', 'Tech',... aren't enough. (Is there a convention already which I missed to follow?) Why shouldn't list members discuss on different levels? Do we need different lists instead? One for beginners, experts, experts in subject A,B,C,... - I don't think so. Lets mark msgs accordingly and let beginners help beginners, don't jump in in a way which prevents beginners resp. non-experts from asking at all. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:28:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: hp 200 lx emulator Comments: To: mihlo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain This is the site for a 80186 emulator that you can run DOS. http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: mihlo ÝSMTP:mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR¨ > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 20:02 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: hp 200 lx emulator > > > Hi > > i'am looking for a emullator of hp 200 lx for windows CE??? > (i'm using a 200 lx and want to use a 360 lx with it) > > > thanks.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:39:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: 123 v2.2 Disk Comments: To: Steve Novosad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, Thank you very much. The Files worked. Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY Steve Novosad wrote: > Bob; > > At 09:36 AM 4/2/99 -0700, you wrote: > >Steve, > > > >Thanks for the files. The 123.exe and 123.set seem like they might work. > The dates > >are 6/27/90 rather than 7/19/89. That might be the difference between a > 3.5 and 5.25 > >disk. I think it is immaterial. > > > > Of the two sets I compared, one was 3.5" and one was 5.25". > I didn't notice the dates however. (If it matters I can > dig out the 5.25" again.) > > >It looks like I need a one more file if I could trouble you. One may be > hidden. It > >is: > > > > init.exe > > > >There is an init.ri, but Norton Utilities pulled that one up. If the disk > has been > >used, I think the init.exe get erased. > > > >Thanks. > > Coming at you. (Off of the System, Help, and Printgraph > disk.) > > Steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: 123A.ZIP > 123A.ZIP Type: Download File (application/zip) > Encoding: base64 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:49:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Mo'dem Woes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I use Procomm Plus on both my desktop and palmtop. It is possible to place modem specific commands into more than one place in this program. I advise you to try re-creating the event which resulted in a working speaker and then closely monitor the series of events that lead to loss of normal modem sounds. I know you are probably not using Procomm, but I still use it as an example. Another method for arriving at a answer is to download and install one of the port pass-through programs from S.U.P.E.R. and using your desktop machine, run a connection using the palmtop. Watch the pass-through info for strings in command mode. I bet something is resetting the speaker off mode in all your comm programs. At least one of my modems has a non-standard command related to the behavior of the internal speaker. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry N Zimmerman ÝSMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM¨ > > I cannot get any sound feedback from the modem. > > Thanks. > > Larry Zimmerman > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:50:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > From: David Sargeant > > Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more > palmtop-friendly? Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow > key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys > working... And things like that? How about for allowing combinations like > Alt+F to select the File menu? (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F, > as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.) > Any solutions would be appreciated. Even a special TSR. Using the Menu key would seem to require a custom TSR. It's not a standard key. Ditto the function key combinations. The "Shift-arrow" is problematic, maybe some of the "super key" DOS TSR's would do that? At least it doesn't use non-standard XT keys. The Alt-F is easy, just make a macro. Ctrl-F10 | Create macro List Files| Enter description of macro Alt-F | Name of macro F5 | List files Enter | Optional CR Ctrl-F10 | end macro or... Ctrl-F10 | Create macro File Menu | Enter description of macro Alt-F | Name of macro Alt-= | Menu bar F | File Menu Ctrl-F10 | end macro Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:12:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: PCMCIA cel modem in palmtop works great! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > and my Motorola SC725 cel phone. > Is this a analog phone or what...I am not familier with all the Motorola models/us models, therefor I have to ask.. we have (soon) only digital gsm 900/1800 here in Norway and soon a new Umts of somthing for dataspeed higher than 9600 > And the cel phone automatically goes into > analog mode when it senses the modem. Nice. > Is gsm or digital cellphone nets not that widespread in the US? -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:10:39 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: PCMCIA project In-Reply-To: <001401be7c3b$fba40e20$0200000a@tim> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:34:02 +1000 "Tim Pitman" =e9crivait: > The horizontal lines appearing on the display with each disk access occur= ed > on my 95lx with an original SunDisk card, so I don't think that it's rela= ted > to the newer cards. It's possible, I don't remember of that. But if there were such lines, they were certainly less apparent than with the new CF. It was the same HP95 I use now, and the card was one of the first 10 Mb Sundisk, that a friend just bought (in december 92, when the price of this card was somewere $1800 ;-) ) Jacques. ------------------------------ The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... ------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:24:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19990402085120.19ffb02e@204.49.39.2> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steve Novosad wrote: > Using the Menu key would seem to require a custom TSR. It's not a > standard key. Ditto the function key combinations. The "Shift-arrow" > is problematic, maybe some of the "super key" DOS TSR's would do that? > At least it doesn't use non-standard XT keys. Okay... anybody care to make a special TSR... Stefan? > The Alt-F is easy, just make a macro. > or... > Ctrl-F10 | Create macro > File Menu | Enter description of macro > Alt-F | Name of macro > Alt-= | Menu bar > F | File Menu > Ctrl-F10 | end macro I run WP with BuddyDOS... and it seems to kill the Alt-= key combination. Is there a way to edit a macro directly? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:04:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Perfect Pitch and other DOS finds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks: For the musically inclined: discovered a neat freeware perfect pitch trainer that works on the 200lx. It can be found here: http://www.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/dos/misc/pitch.zip I found that on this page which has a bunch of neat DOS stuff for kids: http://members.tripod.com/leedonley/dosgateway.htm The kids page was linked here: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1401/softlib1.htm where you can find some more DOS goodies. Not everything is lx-compatible but worth a look anyway I think. later Ed ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:16:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: PCMCIA cel modem in palmtop works great! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dan Ridenhour wrote: > what connect > speeds are you getting from your Cellular connection? Anything approaching > 14.4 or slower? I am using a COM2 serial port speed of 38400 for landline and cellular use. I thought I put a W1 in the init string so that I could see the true DCE connect speed, but it reported CONNECT 38400, so I think I didn't do the W1 correctly. I will let you know when I find out the DCE speed over cellular. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:15:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Exertise levels Comments: To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hermann, > Why shouldn't list members discuss on different levels? Do we need > different lists instead? One for beginners, experts, experts in > subject A,B,C,... - I don't think so. I think that all expertise levels should be mixed. It really helps everyone to hear everyone. Surely the less experts can get information, and the experts can learn where the problems _really_ are. I think all levels have something valuable to bring into the discussions. > Lets mark msgs accordingly and let beginners help beginners, don't > jump in in a way which prevents beginners resp. non-experts from > asking at all. Oh, I dunno. I will probably want to jump and help everyone! :) Maybe the same goal can be achieved if we all "listened" better to each other? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:15:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Non-Experts: WWW/LX setup or update Comments: To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hermann, This is a good example how I would want to jump and help out. > Whats the best way to setup/update WWW/LX (or parts)? What we try to do with WWW/LX Plus is to not wipe out your configuration, or force you to do it all over again. When we transitioned from www v1 to the current version, the .CFG files were not compatible. Since April last year the POST.CFG and WWW.CFG were always compatible. However, occasionally we provided specific recommendations of things to add or change in the configuration files. HV.CFG, the last configuration file in the set, is a special case. Almost no changes are required to it. The way it comes is basically fine to use. So if we overwrite it, no problem. So in the case of WWW.CFG the official way is to use WWWSETUP. When you get an update like the new WWW21.EXE, it leaves WWW.CFG alone, and the settings you had should work just fine. Same is true for Post.CFG. The official change tool for POST.CFG is SETUP.EXE. On occasions it is necessary to make changes to the files directly. We recommend MEMO or PE. Any Text Editor that does not make changes on its own to the text, and self-corrects thhings :), is probably fine. > Does someone have template files, which contain fields for the data > which have been entered in setup screens? Each field on the screen has help associated with it in SETUP.EXE and in WWWSETUP.EXE. So these should make it easier to fill out. I am sure there are other methods. Good idea to document how people do things... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:33:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: The turn off programme MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dejan Radic wrote: > I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop > off. I used it when creating macros which started at the > certain time, because it was the only way to turn the > palmtop off after the macro had been finished. I must > emphasize that it is not the DISP.ZIP, that turns off the > display only. If you have what I need, send it by E-mail. > > Thanks in advance. > > Dejan Radic (writing from the bomb shelter) > Belgrade > Yugoslavia > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I have sent you the program as mail....posting here so that everybody can see....sorry of you already got it... -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:36:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Add-in programs for Lotus 123 ver 2.4? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know where I find add-in programs for Lotus 123 ver.2.4? I'm looking for statisical and maths add-in programs to add more @functions and the @base add-in I read about in the Palmtop paper. I have searched my Cd infobase 1997 and the Lotus support webpage without success. I suspect these programs were developed by third party companies, but who are they and where can I contact them? Can anyone tell me if there is a way to program Lotus 123 to calculate a factorial? Palmtop greetings Rian Maartens ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:36:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows: Al, do you mind explaining exactly how and where you "set up an EXKey macro" Where must I type in this command line? > ÝPE¨ > {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter} > > (there, I just used it ;-) ) > > Now when in PalEdit, "AltPaste" inserts text from ClipVue > > HTH...Cheers, > > *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ > *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / > *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / > *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ > *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:38:41 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Leather Cases Content-Type: text Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days? For the palmtop computer, that is? My current case was purchased from Educalc years ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear. I would really like to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is. I have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them. The one I have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2. It has one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc stuff. Here's a crude diagram: / <--- Zipper Tab / /----------------0**************** | : * <-- *'s indicate zipper | : * travel around case | : * | : * | : * | : * | : <-------*------- Outside Pocket | : * (Inside pocket is on \-----------------**************** the opposite side) -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:46:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Marks, David B" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Marks, David B" Subject: Re: Leather Cases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days? For the palmtop > computer, that is? My current case was purchased from Educalc years > ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear. I would really like www.mrpalmtop.com has some that you might like. I haven't tried them. I'm looking for one that has room for both the AC adapter and modem cable. The ones I saw at MrPalmtop were more like a wallet. Dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:14:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings: 20m53s ago ... wrote: > > Here's what I did for PE, I set up an EXKey macro as follows: > > Al, do you mind explaining exactly how and where you "set up > an EXKey macro" Where must I type in this command line? > > > ÝPE¨ > > {Alt++}=3D{Menu}fic:\_dat\clipvue.txt{Enter} > ... EXKey is an AddIn EXM program for exchanging keys on the LX. Additionally, and more useful is that you can assign several keystrokes to one key. The program & setup instructions are available on SUPER: > Name: exkey024.zip > Category: Keyboard > Title: EXKey > Version: 0.024 > Capture: None > Size: 14 > Date: 12/31/96 > Ý ¨ Perm? > Author: Yoshihiro Hanaoka (Maruha) > Email: QGA01764@niftyserve.or.jp > Note: EXKey is a TSR that allows you to move often-used keys to > new locations and to assign a series of keystrokes to one > key. Freeware. (there, just used it again! ;-) ) You also have the capability in PE of writing keyboard macros. I tried this as well, and as I remember, it worked w/ PE run alone, but not when spawned from POST/LX Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:26:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Leather Cases In-Reply-To: <71251C7D5FB1D2119C8F0008C7A44ED1272989@es07snlnt.sandia.gov> from "Marks, David B" at "Apr 2, 99 09:46:26 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had good luck with simple 35mm camera cases. I started off with a colorful single-compartmant nylon case. It worked well, with the LX inside, flash and modem card in a small zippered compartment in the back, and PlugPower adapter stuffed in the nylon mesh on the side. When I purchased a cellular cable plus an Ethernet card, I upgraded to a dual-compartment Samsonite leather case. David Sargeant can attest to all the crud I manage to fit in there! > > Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days? For the palmtop > > computer, that is? My current case was purchased from Educalc years > > ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear. I would really like ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:37:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Holster Case Comments: To: "Marks, David B" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like a gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere? Thanks! Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:41:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$. Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:12:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Evans - N0HJ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Evans - N0HJ Organization: Titan Software Systems Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit folks, $9.00 - not the same light but similar in size and function. http://www.couchpotato.net/showitem.html?item_id=570&site_id=28 -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:18:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sfml1@IBM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stu Foster Subject: Re: Mo'dem Woes Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've been having the oddest run of luck with modems lately. I cannot = get > any sound feedback from the modem. You know all that screetching and > squawking that warms the heart to hear - I get none of it. I can hear > the pick-up and the line drop but no connection noises. > > Anyone know how I might get the sound back? I really like the > confirmation hearing the noise gives. Obvious question but do you have the speaker system settings in the = palmtop turned on ? (Or all the way up). The PC-Card modems use the internal speaker of the palmtop so if you have turned this down maybe that will stop it from working. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:24:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , wslee@INREACH.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Whay S. Lee" Subject: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) Comments: cc: wslee@cva.stanford.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:23:59 -0500 , Tamas Feher (e-tomcat@SC.BME.HU) writes > Seems like there is a solution to a long sought LX addon: SCSIiii! > It is called the Olympus DIMO, about 3 matchboxes big, 200grams. > Developed for up to 10,000 pics storage on MO drive/disks for use > with the Olympus C-1400XL camera, it has RS-232C DB-9 on one end > (8-bit, no parity) and an Apple-style DB-25 SCSI on the other. > I wonder if it's suitable for the HPLX, say for ZIP use? One > thing I'm concerned about, that it may support only unidirec- > tional transfer or has hardwired SCSI subset only for bad. I was also looking for a SCSI solution a while ago, and came across a PCMCIA SCSI-2 card that claims only 120mA current draw, and comes with drivers for DOS. I subsequently decided not to go SCSI on the LX, but if people are interested, here are the specs: 120 mA 10 MB/s fast scsi-2 auto-termination card & socket services dos aspi drivers, cdrom drivers It is carried by Corporate Systems Center (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card. They used to show it on their web page, but not anymore. But the last time I was at their retail store in Santa Clara (California) a couple of months ago, I saw that they still carry it, and it was priced at less than US$100 (I think $79, I can't remember). And no, I did not actually test it on the LX. whay. (not affiliated to CSC) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:34:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) In-Reply-To: from "Whay S. Lee" at Apr 2, 99 10:24:57 am Content-Type: text > 120 mA > 10 MB/s fast scsi-2 > auto-termination > card & socket services > dos aspi drivers, cdrom drivers > > It is carried by Corporate Systems Center > (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the > > "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card. > > They used to show it on their web page, but not > anymore. But the last time I was at their retail > store in Santa Clara (California) a couple of > months ago, I saw that they still carry it, > and it was priced at less than US$100 (I > think $79, I can't remember). whay: If you go there again, I would sure like you to buy one of these goodies for me. Do you live in Santa Clara, or otherwise near the store? Just in case not, I'm checking out the referenced web site. -Chris Lott p.s. Is your name "Whay", with an initial capital letter, or "whay", as in e. e. cummings, the poet, who didn't capitalize his names? -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:37:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) In-Reply-To: from "Whay S. Lee" at Apr 2, 99 10:24:57 am Content-Type: text > It is carried by Corporate Systems Center > (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the > > "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card. Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals. Maybe we need to place a single quantity order??? Any others interested? I'm pretty tempted to get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:47:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Philippe Lewis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Philippe: > People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is > selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack > of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a > pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact > that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But > otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$. Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his Webpage. His price for flexlite is better... Best regards, Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:51:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice Comments: cc: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Chris, I have hesitant to respond, because not only is the customer always right, but you are a pretty darned knowledgeable customer. Perhaps, that knowledge gets in the way a little. <> SSC was designed to be off the shelf, install in 10 minutes, and allow the user to start using tons of strong shareware and freeware right away. Since I was the one who put it all together, I cannot claim objectivity. But we have sold many hundreds with a minimum of tech support calls. If the several pages of SSC documentation (including "Read this first") are read, I think it is pretty straight forward. For various support, technical and logistical reasons Ed Keefe (who wrote the new SC manual) and I worked on the projects in parallel. What can be confusing and has caused problems is when users combine the information from the SC and SSC documentation. (We try to warn about this in the SSC documentation). That is why I think SC should be installed separately when the SC tutorial is used or when some of the tools like LOAD123 that Ed created for SC are used. Once both are functioning well. SCCONFIG can be used to update the SSC setup and the SC stuff can be removed. <> We greatly simplified the style and approach of the new SC manual. But I thought Ed did a pretty good job leaving in the info needed by users. (There are a few DOC files on the SC master disk refereed to in the SC manual that cover a few more obscure items.) What items did you find in the original manual not in the new manual? I really don't want to be defensive or make you wrong. Obviously, you had less than a stellar experience and nothing I say that can change that. I do appreciate Avi, Stan, Jorgen and others' comments about SC. I have been very busy and seems there are always 300-400 messages to read on this list for me to catch up with so I greatly appreciate (even more than normal) others' comments and tech support on SC and upgrades. <> Thanks, and I hope this hasn't been the experience of others (extra complication). Ed and I worked VERY VERY hard to make the SC manual and SSC as simple to use as possible. I personally found the original documentation almost unintelligible for a new user. It wasn't clear how to get started or what was needed and what was peripheral. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:23:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: Add-in programs for Lotus 123 ver 2.4? Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have DesignEase for DOS that runs on the palmtop that does experimental designs. For fitting the equations to the data, you can use Mystat, a personal version of Systat. I have version 5 of Systat for DOS that runs on the palmtop, but I don't think SPSS sells this version anymore. You might contact them to ask. You should be able to find Mystat on Simtel. Let me know if you have problems finding Mystat and I can send you a copy. For Design Ease, you might contact the vendor at 612.378.9449. The Company name is StatEase. HTH, Claud At 06:36 PM 4/2/99 +0200, you wrote: >Anyone know where I find add-in programs for Lotus 123 >ver.2.4? I'm looking for statisical and maths add-in programs >to add more @functions and the @base add-in I read about in >the Palmtop paper. I have searched my Cd infobase 1997 and >the Lotus support webpage without success. I suspect these >programs were developed by third party companies, but who >are they and where can I contact them? Can anyone tell me >if there is a way to program Lotus 123 to calculate a >factorial? >Palmtop greetings >Rian Maartens > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:30:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia Comments: To: Dejan Radic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain To: <> Dejan, I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want this discussion on the list, I understand. Hopefully "Fluff" makes it OK. First, I find it incredible that my country is bombing yours and we can have an email conversation. Secondly, although in truth I am not sure what to think about the war, it is hard to imagine the human suffering caused by all parties involved. I think it horrible that we are bombing your country. I have to ask you a question. If humanly possible, put aside your anger and resentment for the NATO/U.S. attacks and answer it as honestly as possible. I understand that Serbia has an historical claim on Kosovo. I also believe that things are not black and white -- atrocities have happened on both sides. However, it does seem that the Serbs have been incredibly inhumane both in Bosnia and Kosovo. The tales of mass murder, rape, looting and now displacing Ethnic Albanians from their homes seems terrible to put it mildly. You have propaganda and so do we which makes it hard to determine the truth. It does seem that Serbia is the aggressor and its actions and "ethnic cleansing" go way beyond any attacks on Serbs. How can you possibly justify taking women and children from their home, terrorizing them, robbing them of all their possessions, burning their villages, taking away their passport/citizenship papers? Personally, I don't thinking bombing is the answer (nor is it in Iraq). But I don't have any answers either to what was happening and now accelerating in Kosovo. As a Jew, I am particularly sensitive to the idea of the world's indifference to the innocent slaughter of a people. Comments? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Holster Case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster? I have the Opus 63 shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone. The ripoff holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice. If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe you should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations. Alan >From: Philippe Lewis ÝSMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET¨ >Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:38 PM >Subject: Re: Holster Case > >Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like a >gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:45:09 PST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dennis Bell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Bell Subject: Loose screws . . . Comments: cc: doppelbike@yahoo.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi- I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but I cannot see where the screw is. The lower left corner of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit. Is there a screw beneath the little rubber foot? If not, where should I look for this loose screw? Thanks in advance. Dennis Bell Seattle ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:49:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice In-Reply-To: from "Hal Goldstein" at Apr 2, 99 12:51:51 pm Content-Type: text > SSC was designed to be off the shelf, install in 10 minutes, and allow > the user to start using tons of strong shareware and freeware right > away. Since I was the one who put it all together, I cannot claim > objectivity. But we have sold many hundreds with a minimum of tech > support calls. If the several pages of SSC documentation (including > "Read this first") are read, I think it is pretty straight forward. I did read all this material, in the order given. I only "cross pollination" I did was to copy over the new CAROUSEL.PRG file, as instructed. > For various support, technical and logistical reasons Ed Keefe (who > wrote the new SC manual) and I worked on the projects in parallel. What > can be confusing and has caused problems is when users combine the > information from the SC and SSC documentation. (We try to warn about > this in the SSC documentation). That is why I think SC should be > installed separately when the SC tutorial is used or when some of the > tools like LOAD123 that Ed created for SC are used. Once both are > functioning well. SCCONFIG can be used to update the SSC setup and the > SC stuff can be removed. I was mostly insterested in bare-bones SC. The only reason I ordered the SSC was to get and have a look at the pre-configured HDM sessions and applications you put together for SSC. Other than these pre-defined HDM sessions, I guess I don't see what is imcompatible between the SC and SSC products. (And maybe this has been my problem). For example, when I want to work through some of the examples in the tutorial, I would just copy over the provided .bat file (say DOS2.BAT), and edit it to be sure that the directories are all correct, and assign it to a spare work area. If there is really some fundamental difference between SC and SSC, I would like to learn about it. I had always thought, and still would think it best, if SSC was just a superset of SC - i.e., it just included additional pre-configured work areas. > What items did you find in the original manual not in the new manual? There was a section in the SC manual where they addressed the question "what does a low-pitched beep mean?" I was having this problem, and didn't see any mention of it in your documentation (I just may have overlooked it, however). To address your comment about the original SC manual, I have observed that to me, the book that Ed put together is an EXCELLENT tutorial on SC, but have found the original book to be a better REFERENCE manual. And maybe there's some confusion about this "original" manual. Mine is a bright yellow, thin, paperback manual by Sunshine. I don't have the original version number, but it was dated May 1996 and I have SN 72687025. I appreciate the feedback, and as I've indicated, I intend to get this working. My original intention has been to make modifications to the SSC package to better fit my working habits and needs. I was hoping to use the extras in SSC to learn how to implement HDM on my palmtop, and also to provide me some new applications that I don't already have. If I learn, of course, that SC and SSC are incompatible in some way, I'll abandon this approach. Right now, through the comments of some folks on this list, I'm wondering if the problems are TSR related. I'll have to wait until I do some serious experimenting to find out... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:55:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: WWW/LX: 'Post' Crash report / advice MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Chris, <> There should be no incompatibility. SSC is a superset of SC. The only difference is in how we instruct users to set things up. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:08:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Kramer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Kramer Subject: Re: Loose screws . . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Bell wrote: > I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but > I cannot see where the screw is. The lower left corner > of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit. Is > there a screw beneath the little rubber foot? If not, > where should I look for this loose screw? Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws. And yes, the lower left one seems to be the most comon one to go first. You will need a Ýrelatively hard to get but obtainable¨ Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole isn't stripped like mine. On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts kit that could give/sell me a screw or two? I ordered the parts kit a long time ago and there were no screws in it. I'm in Boston, if a physical handoff is feasible. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:06:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Help locate duplicate file utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Please help me re-find a disk utility I used to have. When you look for duplicate files on a drive, it's common to find files that have the same name. Finddupe and several others do this. What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they were identical. Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a Windows program, but I cannot seem to locate it at all. I think it generated a checksum or CRC for every file and only listed the ones that actually had the same size and matched contents, regardless of whether they were named the same. Anybody remember it? Anybody got it? TIA, Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:14:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Evans - N0HJ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Evans - N0HJ Organization: Titan Software Systems Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! Can anyone verify this URL? It doesn't work for me at this end!! tnx, john -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:27:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light In-Reply-To: <199904021847.KAA19919@ftel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95. However, Mitch sold these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one). What caused the price to go up so much? At 10:47 AM 4/2/99 -0800, you wrote: >Philippe: > >> People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is >> selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack >> of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a >> pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact >> that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But >> otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$. > >Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is >also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also >he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his >Webpage. > >His price for flexlite is better... > >Best regards, > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:39:33 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Holster Case Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500, "Striegel, Alan" wrote: > Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster? I have the Opus 63 > shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone. The = ripoff > holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice. > > If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe = you > should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations. > > Alan What I did was modify a set of suspenders then connected it to my Ripoff case works great once you get use to it. It also looks cool and I never leave home without it! One thing though, don't ever forget to secure the Ripoff flap after you = put the palmtop inside. Need I say more! Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:36:58 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions? Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Tim, I see this was an old message, but I didn't see it answered. <> Almost all Buddy features work only in System Manager (CTRL-1). I doubt if there are any Buddy features that will work with the CTRL 2, apps, or CTRL-3, Games. To install Buddy in a session, include it in the batch file that starts the session. (For example, \sc-hdm\apps.bat starts the CTRL 2, apps session. <<2) How do I add a 4th SC session to swap in and out of?>> Start SCCONFIG (from CTRL 2, apps). Add session for by updating "Work Area" and add more disk space in "Resource Pool". See SC manual on SCCONFIG for more details. <<3) I see, by the Thaddeus documentation, that Zoom comes w/ the Super Software Carousel, how do I enable it?>> Alt MORE. I STRONGLY recommend viewing the SSC help file (the same in CTRL 2 and CTRL 3) or print it out from the CD. At least look at the starred sections. <<4) Will MaxDos and/or the EMM drivers avail for the 200 help me much and when should I use them Ýplus will they crash SC and how do I enable them in one or more or all sessions¨?>> Not dumb. Both will work although many people find them unnecessary. EMM may speed up task switching just a bit. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:40:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Help locate duplicate file utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I found it myself, just shortly after I posted the request. It's called Twinfind. There was originally a DOS version (from 1994) and now there is also a Windows version (from 1997). The Windows version is available from the ZDnet library for free. I have the DOS version from an old CD-ROM. The following description came with the DOS file: What is ZDI's TwinFind Utility Twinfind is a simple DOS command line utility that allows you to search multiple paths and drives for duplicate files. The search matches on CRC not on file name, date or time which can often be different. Output can be directed to another program or to an ASCII text file. The description below applies to the Windows version: ZD Net's TwinFind for Windows allows you to identify duplicate files on your hard disk. You can archive, rename, or delete the results of your searches. It bases its matches not on filename or a time/date stamp, but on size and a cyclical redundancy check (CRC). TwinFind provides a fast way to locate unwanted duplicates that are needlessly using valuable hard disk space. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:36:18 EST Reply-To: CSchlim@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schilm Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: jaevans@codenet.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following is correct...you might have copied the ! mark..this worked for me: www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop Cathy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:10:15 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: I've almost had it. > Claud: Whoever spoofed my email DEFINITELY wanted it on the > list!!! What a great way to embarrass me! Check the date, > check the style, etc... It was not posted by me. Someone > uses my name and email address etc. He/she has done it > before to another list member (Peter Border, I believe!). > > I use Rocochet exclusively lately and have no access to the > server where this was posted. > Yep, I got "hit" last time, I wish you better luck in tracking down the jerk that did this to you than I had. Too bad the list couldn't be set up to only allow ONE person per name to be subscribed, seems logical to me at least. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:13:14 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) > Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that > they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals. Maybe we need to place > a single quantity order??? Any others interested? I'm pretty tempted to > get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79... > > -Chris > I have bought lots of stuff from them and unless they have changed their policy in the last few months they do sell to individuals. I even have one of their nifty disk duplicators / testers for work. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:16:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lfeldman@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Feldman Subject: PalmTree: Palmtop case Comments: To: rclott@ro.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. Saw your note about the Palmtop case. Sounds like the one I used for quite some time. It was made by PalmTree Products. It was made of a heavy "leatherette" - although I beleive they made a leather one also. It had a webbed belt loop on the back. That's the good news. The bad news is they no longer make the Leatherette version, instead they have one in leather, in a "new larger size" - - in other words not 200lx specific. I beleive it has a "clip" rather than a loop. They are on the web at: http://www.harb.net/PalmTreeProductsInc./index.htm Regards, Larry Feldman LFeldman@USA.NET Hmmm.... You got me looking again. That new one may not be so bad - and at $29.95 not unreasonable. Maybe I'll order one.... I just never liked belt "clips". Anybody have one? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" In-Reply-To: <199904021837.MAA03931@ro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sure, I'd get one for $79. Count me in. Brian Sugita kaervek@ix.netcom.com At 12:37 PM 4/2/99 -0600, you wrote: >> It is carried by Corporate Systems Center >> (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the >> >> "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card. > >Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that >they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals. Maybe we need to place >a single quantity order??? Any others interested? I'm pretty tempted to >get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:41:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: Loose screws . . . Comments: To: Dennis Bell In-Reply-To: <19990402194509.22560.qmail@nw128.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Dennis, Hey a fellow Seattlelite LX'er. Cool. Yup the screws are under the little feet and are torx #6 bits I think?? Sometimes the screw is not loose but the screw anchor inside is broken loose. If you tighten the screw and it doesn't work you can fix the anchor inside with a bit a super glue sometimes. Good luck! Brian Sugita kaervek@ix.netcom.com At 11:45 AM 4/2/99 PST, you wrote: >Hi- > >I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but >I cannot see where the screw is. The lower left corner >of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit. Is >there a screw beneath the little rubber foot? If not, >where should I look for this loose screw? > >Thanks in advance. > >Dennis Bell >Seattle ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:44:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990402122738.007c29d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free from my friends little girl. She had gotten it free in her McDonalds happy meal. The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the side of it. I've been to lazy to paint over it. :) Brian Sugita kaervek@ix.netcom.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: Turn-off program Comments: To: Super HP-LX Website MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mitch, Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super = as well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler. >I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop off. begin 644 off.com 'N`!"S17-(``` ` end Jorgen ; Switch hp200lx off. (A86 assembler) main: mov ax,4200h ; al=3D0 use system profile ;mov ax,4201h ; al=3D1 force suspend int 15h int 20h = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:00:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Downloading from SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER? The problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:41:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > David Sargeant > I run WP with BuddyDOS... and it seems to kill the Alt-= key combination. > Is there a way to edit a macro directly? Yes, there is a separate macro editor program, and if a macro exists, and you try to create one with the same name, one of the options it to edit the old one. There _should_ be a more direct way to edit a macro, but I haven't found it. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:50:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Re: Mo'dem Woes Checked speaker volume on palmtop. Not the problem. Another suggestion was that I duplicate the conditions in which the modem worked and watch closely for when it stopped working. So far, the only condition that "works" is wiping everything clean and beginning anew. On the palmtop, all batteries out for several minutes works sometimes; on the desktop, a complete reformat sometimes works. Note though that I say sometimes - it doesn't always work. I use the built in DataComm program on the palmtop and ProComm or Digital's Pathworks on the desktops/laptop. I'll try the pass through test and see what happens. This is really annoying to me as any machine I touch looses the modem noise. I'm not an experienced enough user to be purposefully resetting anything. Thanks for the replies. Larry Zimmerman PS - The 200lx is still for sale in case anyone is interested. On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:18:57 +0100 Stu Foster writes: >Obvious question but do you have the speaker system settings in the = >palmtop >turned on ? (Or all the way up). ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:48:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Memory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi James Gill, <> You can either add the Dictionaries (or other DOS sw) to existing menus (CTRL 2 and CTRL 3) -- note there is room for 2 screens worth of stuff in each menu. Or you can create a new SC session. The easiest thing to do is from, say Ctrl 2 APPS HDM screen, press F2 Add. Then fill out form in same way you would fill out Appmanager form (with name of application and Path). Check "B/W Mono" on the dictionaries under display. F10 saves it. You'll find an icon for your new application on the second HDM page. (HDM is the name of the menu program with the icons). You can move the ICON for your new app to first page with the ORDER (F7) key, by deleting (F4) unused apps, or by alphabetically sorting MENU Application Sort. Alternatively you can go to SCCONFIG found in CTRL 2 APPS. There you would create a 4th SSC session by filling out session 4 screen in "Work Areas" and by adding disk space in "Memory Pool". See SC manual for details or press help (F1) in SCCONFIG. If you want a new HDM menu for CTRL 4, the easiest thing is to mimic the \sc-apps\apps.bat batch file. Good luck. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:07:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Loose screws . . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sears has this tool. I think it has a green "spinner" cap on it. Look out, so does the #7 Torx driver. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Kramer ÝSMTP:david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET¨ > > You will need a Ýrelatively > hard to get but obtainable¨ Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole > isn't stripped like mine. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:13:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Ýfluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Don't paint it. The fact it has something fun on it only makes it better. :) Imagine yourself sitting in the dark, waiting for a ride home from someplace uh... dark. You turn on your Harriet The Spy, palmtop light and in the darkness and solitude you are possessed to write (on your palmtop) a riveting novel. Or perhaps you are possessed to find that missing link to Outlook, or you happen upon the cure for computer cancer (windows)... you never know. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Sugita ÝSMTP:kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM¨ > > I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free > from my friends little girl. She had gotten it free in her McDonalds > happy meal. The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the > side of it. I've been to lazy to paint over it. :) > > Brian Sugita > kaervek@ix.netcom.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:18:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Karl DeLyria Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Karl DeLyria Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) Comments: To: Brian Sugita In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990402133848.007dde70@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd take one for $79 too. Karl At 01:38 PM 4/2/99 -0800, you wrote: >Sure, I'd get one for $79. Count me in. > >Brian Sugita >kaervek@ix.netcom.com > >At 12:37 PM 4/2/99 -0600, you wrote: >>> It is carried by Corporate Systems Center >>> (www.corpsys.com, 408-330-5538), and is called the >>> >>> "CSC Fastcache PCMCIA SCSI-II" card. >> >>Not only is it not listed on their web site, there is an admonition that >>they only sell to dealers, and not to individuals. Maybe we need to place >>a single quantity order??? Any others interested? I'm pretty tempted to >>get a SCSI controller for my palmtop for ~$79... > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:19:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Turn-off program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Oh, good god man, the nerve of it! You posted a binary to the list!!! Look 2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit! Ok, now the serious reply. Bravo! Real programming, thanks! I never get tired of it when someone actually uses skill and not some bloated development environment. Thanks, Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Jorgen Dybdahl ÝSMTP:JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM¨ > > Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super > as > well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler. > > begin 644 off.com > 'N`!"S17-(``` > ` > end > > Jorgen > > > ; Switch hp200lx off. (A86 assembler) > main: > mov ax,4200h ; al=0 use system profile > ;mov ax,4201h ; al=1 force suspend > int 15h > int 20h > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:43:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Ýfluff¨ In-Reply-To: <199904022312.RAA09830@sdds0.pagenet.com> from Phil Drummond at "Apr 2, 99 05:13:32 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Imagine yourself sitting in the dark, waiting for a ride home from someplace > uh... dark. You turn on your Harriet The Spy, palmtop light and in the > darkness and solitude you are possessed to write (on your palmtop) a > riveting novel. Or perhaps you are possessed to find that missing link to > Outlook, or you happen upon the cure for computer cancer (windows)... you > never know. :) More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:46:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Ýfluff¨ In-Reply-To: <19990402234330.75EE19628@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote: > More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a > tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and > decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. That's a real problem over here in Vegas, too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:53:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <00df01be7d30$7d67a800$a4e103d1@fryday> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote: > People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is > selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack > of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a > pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact > that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But > otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$. > > Philippe :) Personally, I like to use my 4 D-cell Mag-Lite to light the palmtop (or anything else (or everything else :)) in the dark. And, if I remember right, it was also $25. It comes in a sturdy (as in, tank-like) spun aluminum painted black, and has advanced features such as a power switch and twist-to-focus. But what bugs me about Thaddeus is the $30 car adapter which is non-filtered and frickin' USED. Now, this adapter is manufactured from quality bargain bins, I'm sure, because you need a grand total of three parts to make the same adapter yourself: 1. A cigarette lighter plug. 2. A zip cord. 3. A barrel power connector. You see, that's $10 per part, and I know for a fact that the second ingredient in this little concoction costs $5 for 20-30 feet of it. So where do they come up with $30? There's only one answer: a profit margin of at least 300%. Don't get me wrong: Thaddeus is a great company. They're just a bit overpriced. Well, a lot overpriced. Except for the NiMH batteries, which are worth twice as much. Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 18:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: malkajef@orthohelp.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions? Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: ->Almost all Buddy features work only in System Manager (CTRL-1). I ->doubt if there are any Buddy features that will work with the CTRL 2, ->apps, or CTRL-3, Games. To install Buddy in a session, include it in ->the batch file that starts the session. (For example, \sc-hdm\apps.bat ->starts the CTRL 2, apps session. Actually I believe you can use buddy in pure DOS sessions by using the (inlcuded) file BUDDYDOS. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Malka ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: compaq dynamouse Comments: To: Owen Kalau MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen, If you're serious about a mouse for your HP200LX, please consider the Thumbellina by Fellows. Dave Shier installed an HP200LX plug on one for me and it works great with Choice Computing's CADD program. Best, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Owen Kalau To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: compaq dynamouse > wonder if you could use this for the HP200lx... > > http://www.compaq.com.au/dynamouse/productinfo.html > > Hmm... it _is_ april 1st... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:28:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Turn-off program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 43m54s ago ... On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote: > Oh, good god man, the nerve of it! You posted a binary to the list!!! = Look > 2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit! OK, That's it! I'm tossing him off. Meanwhile, you get the Tar & Feathers... > > -----Original Message----- > ... > > begin 644 off.com > > 'N`!"S17-(``` > > ` > > end > > > > ; Switch hp200lx off. (A86 assembler) > > main: > > mov ax,4200h ; al=3D0 use system profile > > ;mov ax,4201h ; al=3D1 force suspend > > int 15h > > int 20h > Oh, fine...now it's on twice! You know I have to pay $.30/MB for disk space on this server! Please stop this rampent waste! P.S. As always, Nice job Jorgen! Thanks. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 01:11:05 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: 120 mA PCMCIA SCSI-2 (LX SCSI addon) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At various times I have bought flashcards and SCSI drives from CSC without problems. However if I remember correctly Mark Scardinia, the sysop of HPHAND and former guru from Ace has indicated that the pcmcia port in the LX series lacks something which prevents any SCSI card from working (I know I tried an Adaptec card without success). My memory is hazy these days - perhaps my recollection will jog someone elses memory. GaryS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:25:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: compaq dynamouse Comments: To: Bill Sprague MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:19:10 -0500 (EST) 52m47s ago ... On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Bill Sprague wrote: > If you're serious about a mouse for your HP200LX, please consider the > Thumbellina by Fellows. Dave Shier installed an HP200LX plug on one = for me Another cool pointing device for the 200LX is the Cirque EasyCat touchpad. Costs more than Thumbelina, but works very well. Guess it depends on whether you prefer rodents, trackballs, or touchpads... I'm thinking of either ordering the DigiKey parts for the plug or having Shier do it. Should be very nice to connect directly without an adapter cable. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:44:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think that is the Palmtree leather case. I have it, too, and would like another. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:02:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: Re: 1500 mAH NiMH Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Gold Peak Industries, Singapore has recently released 1500 mAH NiMH > batteries at around US$7 per pair. > > The charge time is indicated as 14 hours @ 150 mA. Has anyone tried these > in the HP-LXs? These are the highest capacity NiMH batteries that I have > seen. If the self-discharge rate is not significant and the palmtop is able > to charge them, these batteries could be very useful for our purpose. I have been using these batteries for about a year now and thoroughly recommend them. They certainly gave a significant increase in run time between charges over the 950mAH NiCads I was using before, and after a year there is no obvious degradation in capacity. Only issue is that you will really need ABC/LX to control charging. I have found it takes a full 16 hours on high charge, followed bay around 5 hours of trickle charge to fully charge them from flat. Laurence Harvey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:01:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: Re: LED Experiments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not been able to access my EMail for a couple of weeks so please excuse any late replies. I have been experimenting with the front light LED idea myself and hope the following input may be useful. Having tried most colours of LED (high brightness variants) - red, green yellow, orange & white it is clear that the only suitable colour is white. This is much better than any coloured light. The serial output port on the Palmtop has 3 outputs which can drive the LED, of which I have made some current measurements and found that the output with the highest current drive appears to be the DTR output - pin 4 on the Palmtop, or pin 6 on the Connectivity cable. Connect the LED from this pin to pin 5 (Ground), same pin used on Palmtop and connectivity cable for ground. As somebody has already suggested, it is almost certainly acceptable to not use a series limiting resistor. RS232 drivers are designed for most eventualities. I can't remember how many times I've connected RS232 cables wrongly, output connected to inputs, outputs to ground etc and never have destroyed one. As a test, I left my LED on for around 5 hours driven by the Palmtop and nothing broke. I have been using a 400mcd white LED (from Maplin Electronics here in the UK) and connected to the DTR pin takes around 9mA, this results in a light bright enough to work with and brighter (and whiter) than the light generated by the clip on lights sold by Mitch/Palmtop Network. The LED is actually rated at 25mA so could be brighter, but the Palmtop cannot supply that much current I have made up a simple assembly which seems to work fine - a 6" long stiff wire with the LED and a diffuser over it at one end and a thin tail wire at the other end (2" long), and a much thinner wire to connect to the other leg of the LED. The two thin wires then wired into a connector which plugs into the serial port (connector available from RS in the UK). Heatshrink sleeving over the whole assembly tidies it up. At the joint at the end of the thick wire I have glued on a plastic clip which clips over the edge of the display and therefore hold the lamp assembly - you can the bend the thick wire around to provide the correct illumination with the weight being taken by the clip. The thin wire to the serial port prevents any strain on the serial port connector and circuit board inside. Hope this all makes sense. Claud G. Cameron wrote: >Would the LEDs get better battery life than the current bulb used in the >clip-on lights (the ones that clip onto the screen of the LX's)? I have >one of these and it goes through a set of batteries fairly quickly. >Doesn't seem like it would take much expertise to adapt these (even I could >do it). Alternatively, can the "gooseneck" and lens be purchased somewhere >separately for use with the serial port (or cannabilized from one of the >lights)? I tried this option but it did not work. The LED I have used requires a voltage of 2.5V to turn it on. The fully charged NiMH cells I use in my clip on light only manage about 2.4V, so the LED never actually turns on. I do not know if all white LEDs have this high an on voltage but mine certainly did not work. It is worth noting that the current taken by the bulb on the clip on light is around 270mA, yet the LED takes only 10mA - so there would be a massive saving in battery consumption. The high turn on voltage of the white LED would also probably prevent driving it from either the main Palmtop batteries, or the backup battery. Laurence Harvey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 06:48:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: 1-2-3 addins: R.Maartens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>I searched the CD Infobase for @base Searching for Merkle & base shows the article in the Sept/Oct, '96 issue.= It's full of references to @base. The search engine doesn't like "@" I guess. In the meantime, here are a couple of workarounds. 1. Simstat35e (711K) from Simtel (www.simtel.com and bounce to the new site). 2. HP Calc has a factorial function in the Math app. It also has a STOCEL= L function that could be used in a solver equation to put the factorials in= 1-2-3. Not an elegant solution: just a workaround. Or simply press the factorial key and then STO ÝN¨ Spacebar and drop the result in a spreadsheet. The List app also has some simple stat capabilities. = 3. Here's a spreadsheet that will find factorials up to 69 = \F {Let ANS,1}{For cntr,start,stop,step,sub} ANS 5040 <-factorial appears here CNTR 8 START 1 STOP 7 <-your number here STEP 1 SUB {Let ans, ans*cntr} ¬ Menu Rng Name Label Right Put the number in the indicated cell, press ALT+F and Enter. 4. For lots of factorials, and faster computations, create a table of numbers and their factorials and use @HLOOKUP( ) in your formulas. .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:12:43 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I were Dejan, I would not answer to such a mail, because *everybody* can read it ..... -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:09:24 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <>Okay... anybody care to make a special TSR... Stefan? Before programming a TSR, tell me the key-scancodes of the desired keys. Give me a table like this: key -- original scancode -- effect Menukey -- =/&/%% -- opens menu It *should* be possible! -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:56:19 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need no special TSR for this. WP is the expert for such keyboard layouts. I have to find my old macro handbook with the special WP variables first, to help you. -goe- -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Donnerstag, 1. April 1999 20:27 Subject: Keys in WP51 >Does anybody have any ideas on redefining the keyboard in WP51 to be more >palmtop-friendly? Such as, the menu key selecting the menu... Shift+arrow >key combinations marking text... Fn+Copy and the other "clipboard" keys >working... And things like that? How about for allowing combinations like >Alt+F to select the File menu? (Currently I have to do "Alt" and then F, >as pressing them together produces a "macro not found" error.) > >Any solutions would be appreciated. Even a special TSR. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:39:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: Re: Turn-off program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs? Ah, a Microsoft version. I thought about it (well, perhaps not before you suggested it, but immediately afterwards). It would be possible if one increases the automatic timeout to something like 25 mins to avoid that the machine switches itself off automatically before the program gets round to do it. Jorgen = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 23:24:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <19990401dfweiop@dasoft.ftel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I apologize for getting sucked into this - sorry for suspecting you really had a temper . Actually, I'm serious about the apology. I really leapt before I looked. At 03:43 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote: >A: > >Sonuvabitchin idiots are driving me f***ing insane! What did I do to deserve this? And then, just so we don't lose a few of the less sensible customers, I have to throw my but on the floor and beg for mercy like some kind of 90-pound jerk. But at least business won't go down. > >Still, I can not believe the incredible idiocy I am surrounded by. First the "customers" complain about the high prices we charge, not understanding that this is a high-margin business because there are so few customers. Barflebits! They find our products difficult to use and they do not understand our upgrade policies because they do not read the documentation. If they would only take some time to carefully read the RTF*M or readme files for each product we would cut our support requests in half. But we can not even depend on palmtoppers to show faint signs of intelligence these days. I am ready to give up the business as it is more trouble than it is worth. I would advise that you stop work on the new products immediately as I will not sell them anymore. The SSL version of WWW/LX we will release as freeware but the other products we will sell to a different vendor. Let them deal with the headaches. > >BTW, Andreas, that code "user: NOBODY s/n: 16418" does work for WWW/LX 1.x. It a damngood thing no one can get 1.x anymore or we would have a sh*t load of pirates handing out our stuff. > > > Avi M. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:13:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Turn-off program Comments: To: Jorgen Dybdahl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs? Jorgen Dybdahl wrote: > Mitch, > > Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super as > well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler. > > >I need a small COM file (under 1kb) that turns the palmtop off. > > begin 644 off.com > 'N`!"S17-(``` > ` > end > > Jorgen > > ; Switch hp200lx off. (A86 assembler) > main: > mov ax,4200h ; al=0 use system profile > ;mov ax,4201h ; al=1 force suspend > int 15h > int 20h > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:56:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Help locate duplicate file utility Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A starting place... PC Magazine probably has such a utility in one of their old utility disks. I am sending separately a list of utilities that I pulled off a BBS a few years back with hundred of PC Mag utilities. Check out "repeats". If that tickles your innards, I'll send it. "Striegel, Alan" wrote: > Please help me re-find a disk utility I used to have. When you look for > duplicate files on a drive, it's common to find files that have the same > name. Finddupe and several others do this. > > What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they > were identical. Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a > Windows program, but I cannot seem to locate it at all. > > I think it generated a checksum or CRC for every file and only listed the > ones that actually had the same size and matched contents, regardless of > whether they were named the same. > > Anybody remember it? Anybody got it? > > TIA, > Alan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:26:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Modem to Cell Phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a way to connect a Motorola Microtac Lite II to any modem without buying an expensive data cable? Or is there an interface that is necessary. Special software. I would not like to be locked into a particular modem. Is there something I can build or wire up? I an naive when it comes to this application. I have a US Robotics World Port 9600 modem that runs off a 9V battery that I would like to hook up to my cell phone so I could check email. There must be a way without buying Motorola's expensive data converter? Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:19:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had a Futura 30 from E&B cases. It has protected from a couple of "light" drops. It is about as small as you can get and still provide some protection. I am not associated with E&B, I just like their 200LX case. You may have to call them because not all items are on their web sight. Think they also have a holster affair. http://www.ebcases.com/store/scripts/store.exe/ Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY "R. Christopher Lott" wrote: > Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days? For the palmtop > computer, that is? My current case was purchased from Educalc years > ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear. I would really like > to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is. I > have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them. The one I > have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2. It has > one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc > stuff. Here's a crude diagram: > > / <--- Zipper Tab > / > /----------------0**************** > | : * <-- *'s indicate zipper > | : * travel around case > | : * > | : * > | : * > | : * > | : <-------*------- Outside Pocket > | : * (Inside pocket is on > \-----------------**************** the opposite side) > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Huntsville, Alabama > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:29:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Cavendishl@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote: > Ian, when they go from $24 to $48 for 4, I'll remember where they got the > idea. > > 8¬) I agree. They are great. > > Lynn M. Cavendish The great part for me was getting them by winning an hplx.net contest (before I became an ineligible member :) and Thaddeus gracefully sent them to me even though it was $5 over my $20 credit. Thaddeus is definitely courteous, if terribly overpriced on most items. Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:09:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Holster Case Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great idea! Can you put a picture somewhere and instructions about the modification? Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Quinton Jones Jr To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Holster Case On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:39:02 -0500, "Striegel, Alan" wrote: > Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster? I have the Opus 63 > shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone. The ripoff > holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice. > > If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe you > should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations. > > Alan What I did was modify a set of suspenders then connected it to my Ripoff case works great once you get use to it. It also looks cool and I never leave home without it! One thing though, don't ever forget to secure the Ripoff flap after you put the palmtop inside. Need I say more! Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:07:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Loose screws . . . Comments: To: David Kramer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got the kit with the extra screws. The Torx T-6 can be found at Sears (that's where I got it anyway...) Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Kramer To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:08 PM Subject: Re: Loose screws . . . > Dennis Bell wrote: > > I have noticed that my 200LX is beginning to loosen up but > > I cannot see where the screw is. The lower left corner > > of the keyboard is not well attached to the base unit. Is > > there a screw beneath the little rubber foot? If not, > > where should I look for this loose screw? > > Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws. And yes, the lower left one > seems to be the most comon one to go first. You will need a Ýrelatively > hard to get but obtainable¨ Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole > isn't stripped like mine. > > On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts > kit that could give/sell me a screw or two? I ordered the parts kit a > long time ago and there were no screws in it. I'm in Boston, if a > physical handoff is feasible. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:05:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Holster Case Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it's the shoulder holster. The problem with the hip holster is that it moves too much around and looks a *bit* too dorky for my taste -- especially with the cellphone and pager on the same belt... Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Striegel, Alan To: Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Holster Case > Do you mean a shoulder holster or a hip holster? I have the Opus 63 > shoulder holster, but the company that made them is long gone. The ripoff > holsters look like a nice belt-mounted choice. > > If you are serious about preferring a gun-style shoulder holster, maybe you > should troll the rec.guns newsgroup for recommendations. > > Alan > > >From: Philippe Lewis ÝSMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET¨ > >Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:38 PM > >Subject: Re: Holster Case > > > >Hello! Does anyone know if they still sell the 200LX holster (looks like a > >gun holster, but with a 200LX case) anywhere? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:01:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, but still too much for a piece of plastic (yeah, I know about the margins...). Oh, and yes, I saw stockchart. Good thing they're using WWW/LX!!! Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: HPLX Mailing List ; Philippe Lewis Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light > > Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is > also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also > he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his > Webpage. > > His price for flexlite is better... > > Best regards, > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:58:17 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ar Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: MESSAGE-ID field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: ar Subject: Re: Loose screws - T6 not hard to find . . . Comments: To: David Kramer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The T-6 screwdriver is not that hard to get. Most electronics parts supply shops should have various TORX sizes (based on my experience in Hong Kong). More specifically, the T-6 is very commonly used for opening up various brands of mobile phones. Any store dealing in mobile phone supplies or repairs should be able to sell you one. Hope this helps. brgds Anand Rao. At 04:08 AM 03-04-99 Saturday , David Kramer wrote: > >Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws. And yes, the lower left one >seems to be the most comon one to go first. You will need a Ýrelatively >hard to get but obtainable¨ Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole >isn't stripped like mine. > >On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts >kit that could give/sell me a screw or two? I ordered the parts kit a >long time ago and there were no screws in it. I'm in Boston, if a >physical handoff is feasible. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 19:57:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Organization: Arachne Fan Club Subject: Re: Exertise levels Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:15:35 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > I think that all expertise levels should be mixed. It > really helps everyone to hear everyone. Surely the less > experts can get information, and the experts can learn > where the problems _really_ are. I think all levels have > something valuable to bring into the discussions. Indeed. And speaking from a newcomer's perspective, I want to add that you've been quite helpful in the three months I've been lurking on this list. The expertise on this elist is impressive, including yours. Speaking from this newcomer's perspective, I just wanted to say...Thanks! Regards, David Ball -- Arachne V1.48;beta, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 03:04:32 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want >this discussion on the list, I understand. Hopefully "Fluff" makes it >OK. Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on this even if it is labeled FLUFF. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:49:43 EST Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: ian@hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/2/1999 06:56:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, ian@HPLX.NET writes: > Except for the NiMH batteries, which > are worth twice as much. Ian, when they go from $24 to $48 for 4, I'll remember where they got the idea. 8¬) I agree. They are great. Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:44:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case Comments: To: lfeldman@USA.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My Palmtree case did not have a belt or other loop. Merely was intended to fit into my suit jacket pocket. Mine is leather. It is showing its age. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 07:10:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Buddy in mult. Software Carousel sessions? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 12h17m16s ago ... On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Jeff Malka wrote: > Actually I believe you can use buddy in pure DOS sessions by using the > (inlcuded) file BUDDYDOS. BuddyDOS offers most of the typing shortcuts, SmartCaps, d-Keys, etc, and it takes up about 1/3 the memory. I use in in two of my SCWA. You do have to have a registered version of BUDDY to have it work. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:36:31 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Holster Case In-Reply-To: <012001be7d8d$512cbde0$33e103d1@fryday> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi All, All this talk of leather and holster cases made me remember a message I found while browsing Eddie (the 95LX archive). I don't know if this is still valid (as it was written in 1992), but if it is it might be what some of you are looking for: Cheers, Laust ---Included message... A Real Case for the HP-95LX --------------------------- OK, I'm a geek. I admit it. I never wore a slide rule on my belt, but in college I _did_ wear my calculators on my belt. When I started using a pocket computer- the Psion Organiser- I used a gray nylon belt case sold by one of their distributors. I got used to it: it was always right there when alarms went off or I needed to check a phone number or something. Now that the 95 has supplanted the Organiser for me, I needed a belt case for it. I was using a really ratty old HP-65 hard leather case-- well, truth to tell, it wasn't that hard any more-- and kept hoping some enterprising third party would fill the gap. Nobody did, so I went to a local holster maker to see what he could do. Most pistol holsters are "molded", just like the old HP hard leather cases: wet leather is pressed over a form and the result stitched to a backing. The holster maker used cast aluminum forms for various pistols; we both agreed that subjecting the 95 to the pressing operation wouldn't be a good idea. The solution was simple: I had a friend with a milling machine (he's really handy to have around) machine a chunk of aluminum to the size and shape of the 95. I took this back to the holster maker and he came up with a very rugged hard leather case that's a perfect fit. Best of all, the price was surprisingly low: $80 for a case that makes the old HP hard leather cases look kinda shabby, and designed to my exact specifications. My case is made from leather about twice as thick as the HP case leather, in a simple design with a spring steel belt clip and a Velcro secured flap. It's dyed a dark brown and has pigskin lining. The holster maker is Brian Digardi, and his business is called Digardi Leather Co. It's located in San Jose, CA and the phone number is (408) 371-6367. He still has the aluminum form and is thus in a unique position to make custom cases for the 95. Since each case is made to order, you decide what goes into it: RAM card pockets, type of leather used, belt or other type of case design, so on and such forth. If you're not local to the Bay Area, your best bet is to call him and arrange to send him a sketch of what you want. He's been in business here a number of years and the local gun nuts tell me he's in high demand for custom gun holsters, knife sheaths, and so forth. I'm very impressed with _my_ case (did I mention the matching belt? That was extra.), and I think you'd be pleased with anything he did for you as well. I have no connections with Digardi Leather. ---End included message... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:50 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alejandro Paz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alejandro Paz Subject: Re: PCMCIA project Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, i test the card with a HP95lx (a SanDisk 15 M CF) and get some results : The card was tested with the sdpdrv.sys from SUNDisk version 1.5 Read Speed 316kb/s Write Speed 207kb/s I test the C: disk too, with the next results Read Speed 80 kb/s Write SPeed 76 kb/s But, the most important thing here is the power comsumption : (with the CF and turned-off) 22 mA (very rare no?) * in idle (turned on with the CF) 48mA (is too much) in read or write : peaks of 220 mA. * this value is too high becuse there are a line (Card Detect 2) pulled down (hardwired to ground) in the board (i think that of course, i see the line grounded in the board, but i not fix this, i do that in the next hours ..., remember these machines are earlier than the PCMCIA 2.0 (not Socket type II). well, i can send you the test speed program or the driver commanted (by me of course), regards ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:41:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , colin cohen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: colin cohen Subject: Lost HP200LX, help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have lost my HP200LX. Its S/N is sg44305026 and it has my name on the r= ear plate and top card thus: colin cohen I left it on UA977 from Frankfurt to Dulles arriving 3/31. If anyone has = any contacts at UA that can help me find it, I would be mighty appreciati= ve. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:32:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree that `Fluff' doesn't make it ok to post pure-political stuff any more than it would make it ok for me to post my (incredibly boring) life history or the American League Schedule for 1975. I wouldn't want to formalize rules for `Fluff' but it seems to me that there should be _some_ reason that the audience of readers on the list should be singled out to hear your words. We are not short of places to talk about politics. For me, however, this _isn't_ one of them. Russel Brooks wrote: > > >I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't want > >this discussion on the list, I understand. Hopefully "Fluff" makes it > >OK. > > Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on > this even if it is labeled FLUFF. > > cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:22:05 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Light (LED LIGHT NOW READY!) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Philippe and list, > > People, I just saw the "Flexlite Pocket Reading Light" that Theddeus is > > selling. Well, I have one just like that, and it came for free with a pack > > of 4 VCR tapes about 5 years back. Well, let me tell you that 24.95$ is a > > pure ripoff for something like that. The only redeeming value is the fact > > that it seems to fit (or clip) just right on the side of the palmtop. But > > otherwise it's just a piece of plastic, worth probably around 5-6$. > > Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! The guy is > also selling our products (newest dealer) - oh an BTW, also > he sells the StockChart (and he _does_ have it on his > Webpage. > > His price for flexlite is better... For all who are interested in having a light for the palmtop: Maybe you've read the discussion 'LED light project' here. I made the light, it works now fine, and I have sent the instructions for making it to Mitch. If he's got time (and enough space on paltmop.net...) he maybe will place the instructions there. I'll let you know, when and how it's available. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:22:09 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, > His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95. However, Mitch sold > these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one). What caused the price to go up so > much? Here in Germany I found _exactly_ this light at "Conrad Electronic". They sell it for 3 DM (~=2 US$)! See http://www.conrad.de GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:22:13 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light project - READY! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, for all who are interested in this project: My LED light is ready!!! It works fine (except one problem: it sometimes gets darker for a while - then it gets bright again... No idea why.) And the instructions I promised are ready, too! Please wait until Mitch has set it up on palmtop.net (if he will - I got no answer from him by now). If he won't - OK, then I must send it to all of you who want to have it. Otherwise, as I said, please wait until it's available on palmtop.net. Thanks in advance to Mitch Hamm! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:53:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, when you do Ctrl+F10 to create a macro, it says "Define macro", which is asking for a name. If it already exists, then it gives you the option to edit the macro. David Sargeant wrote: > Is there a way to edit a macro directly? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:03:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: To: rclott@ro.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris; I got a similar case from Palmtree Products for $20-$40. ()Model #30105) See them at http://www.harb.net/PalmTreeProductsInc./index.htm Richard Smith "R. Christopher Lott" wrote: > Where's a good place to buy leather cases these days? For the palmtop > computer, that is? My current case was purchased from Educalc years > ago, and is starting to show some signs of wear. I would really like > to get a similar one, but have no idea who the original mfr is. I > have seen and tried the ripoff cases, but don't like them. The one I > have is simple black leather with zipper around the top 1/2. It has > one pocket inside for PCMCIA card(s) and one on the outside for misc > stuff. Here's a crude diagram: > > / <--- Zipper Tab > / > /----------------0**************** > | : * <-- *'s indicate zipper > | : * travel around case > | : * > | : * > | : * > | : * > | : <-------*------- Outside Pocket > | : * (Inside pocket is on > \-----------------**************** the opposite side) > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Huntsville, Alabama > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:22:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case Comments: To: lfeldman@usa.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep, I have had two of them. It's pretty good, but doesn't seem to last as long as you would expect a top-quality leather product to last. The things that really stinks is that I bought mine when they were $40! Anyway, I like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in my hands, it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it down and forget about it. So, I carry it on my belt and even though it still gets in the way, it reminds me it's there. I've been lokking for something better, but haven't found anything. It looks nerdy, but no worse than a cell phone. Besides, I work in the computer industry, being referred to as a nerd or geek is just part of the job! Richard Smith Larry Feldman wrote: > Hmmm.... You got me looking again. That new one may not be so bad - and > at $29.95 not unreasonable. Maybe I'll order one.... I just never liked > belt "clips". Anybody have one? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:19:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Gill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Gill Subject: Re: Loose screws - T6 not hard to find . . . MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------2CA28FD2069DBEB8D441A32C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2CA28FD2069DBEB8D441A32C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sears has a nice little #6Torx screwdriver with a swivel head that fits the hand well and is pretty inexpensive. ar wrote: > The T-6 screwdriver is not that hard to get. Most electronics parts supply > shops should have various TORX sizes (based on my experience in Hong Kong). > > More specifically, the T-6 is very commonly used for opening up various > brands of mobile phones. Any store dealing in mobile phone supplies or > repairs should be able to sell you one. > > Hope this helps. > > brgds > > Anand Rao. > > At 04:08 AM 03-04-99 Saturday , David Kramer wrote: > > > >Yes, all four rubber feet cover screws. And yes, the lower left one > >seems to be the most comon one to go first. You will need a Ýrelatively > >hard to get but obtainable¨ Torx T-6 to tighten it up again, if the hole > >isn't stripped like mine. > > > >On that note, is there someone on the list who bought the spare parts > >kit that could give/sell me a screw or two? I ordered the parts kit a > >long time ago and there were no screws in it. I'm in Boston, if a > >physical handoff is feasible. > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml --------------2CA28FD2069DBEB8D441A32C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jlgill.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for James Gill Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jlgill.vcf" begin:vcard n:Gill;James x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Howard College version:2.1 email;internet:jlgill@airmail.net title:Computer Technician x-mozilla-cpt:;0 fn:James Gill end:vcard --------------2CA28FD2069DBEB8D441A32C-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:24:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Nemeth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Nemeth Subject: HP cases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well sonuva gun I can actually contribute for a change! I have a case th= at sounds a lot like yours Chris (it was Chris, wasn't it?). It's made by E= B and I don't have the website but they advertised in the HP Palmto/Thaddeu= s publications. = Currently I am using a Case Logic nylon/foam case (9 in x 4.5 in) made f= or pda's which at about $12.95 from Best Buy was a good buy. I modified it with all sorts of velcro to hold the HP plus a small leather PC Card case= . = It's a simple but clean set up. You can jam a few more things in there depending on how you like your population density. Now someone else recently commented on carrying more stuff with them and I noticed my Case= Logic CD holder (6.5 in x 11.5 in) which is also black nylon foam with a= 4 ring binder that hold CD sleeves which slide out of the inner pockets. (= My wife says I have that look as I eye yet another case....) Anyway, to make a long story longer, this would make a killer case and looks like it'd carry just about everything one would need including a ni= ce assortment of plugs, adapters, cables (emergency snickers and/or marlboro= s) and still have room for more "essential stuff." At about $20 it's pretty= tempting. = Tom in Muscat where it's now begining to get hot at 95 degrees F ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:24:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Nemeth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Nemeth Subject: Cash Reward to fix my file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Folks, As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American= dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probabl= y a corrupted phone file. It's passworded (I know the password) and its driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there. = As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on. I tried Garlic previously but it did not help. = Any takers? = Cheers from Muscat! tom = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:24:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Nemeth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Nemeth Subject: Motorola cd920 cell phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Stan, I have a Motorola cd920 GSM cell phone and I was wondering if my cable connection is the same as yours? My phone has a sort of square shovel spade connection. I would love to implement the same setup you have. I placed an order for a simple 33.6 card but have no idea when CDW will shi= p. I'd just as soon get the Apex/cable system you used. I also emailed Mobile Planet about my phone but haven't heard anything. Anyone else hav= e a similar phone? = Tom in Muscat Lurk mode = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:38:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Turn-off program Comments: To: Jorgen Dybdahl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >How about a 524k Visual Basic version for those with big thumbs? > > Ah, a Microsoft version. I thought about it (well, perhaps not before > that the machine switches itself off automatically before the program > gets round to do it. GGGGGGGGGGGGG - I needed that chuckle this morning - thanks! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:42:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Turn-off program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, hey, sure enough! It was so small I missed it! Phil Drummond wrote: > Oh, good god man, the nerve of it! You posted a binary to the list!!! Look > 2 lines of UUencode is just pushing the limit! > > Ok, now the serious reply. Bravo! Real programming, thanks! I never get > tired of it when someone actually uses skill and not some bloated > development environment. > > Thanks, > > > Please find enclosed a 7 bytes switch-off program for inclusion on Super > > as > > well as the source code to be assembled with A86 assembler. > > > > begin 644 off.com > > 'N`!"S17-(``` ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:52:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: LED light project - READY! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <199904031622.QAA02537@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>; from Daniel Hertrich on Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 04:22:13PM +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The light project page is up now: http://www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html Sorry for the delay; I have been away for the last week. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:00:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See below: Ian Butler wrote: > Personally, I like to use my 4 D-cell Mag-Lite to light the palmtop... You can also use it to smack the thugs when the try to beat you up. It's very effective for that. Although, if you're going to carry soemthing that big and heavy, it may as well be a WinCE gadget. But smacking thugs with it would probably render it inoperable and void the warranty > But what bugs me about Thaddeus is the $30 car adapter which is non-filtered > overpriced. Well, a lot overpriced. Except for the NiMH batteries, > which are worth twice as much. I agree, it seems that a lot of things from Thaddeus are a bit overpriced. I certainly don't begrudge them a living, but I just wish they could be more considerate of those on limited gadget budgets! (For some reason my wife and children would rather eat and have a home than let me get more toys, dang it.) Hal, if you're here, would you care to comment (maybe explain your pricing strategy)? Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:58:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Nokia 7110/8810 vs Hp200 lx/phonebookmanagment/sms sending.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have: Hp 200lx and a Hp 700 lx. WWW/Lx latest version Soon a Nokia 7110 (I hope..) What I want: Use the 7110 as modem...(hope that this can be done because the 8810 should work with Www/lx) Phonebookmanagment (transfer enteries between Hp and 7110) Sms sending capability (sending and transfer incoming sms from phone to Hp) Hp 200 Lx/7110 irdamodem should work as the 8810 work with www/lx. Has to test this before buying thoug.. But now to the main issue of this mail: does anyone know if there are/will/can be made some software to manage phonenumbers/sms on a 8810/7110 in dos/Hp systemmanager? I know that the 7110 phone is not yet released, but I have seen software for Windows for the Nokia 8810 to manage phonebooks. These phonebookmanagemensprograms was not Nokias and was Windows 9* only no dosversions..(Ncds 3.0 is also Windows NT/9* only). I was curious on how the 8810/7110 and the Windowsplatform transfer phonenumbers and manages sms transfer/sending... Does anyone know anything about this...can this be done? Does the 8810/7110 "speak" a language that can be programmed/used in a dosapplication.. My "dream" was that I could have a application on the Hp 200 where I could "drag and drop" phonenumbers between the Hp phonebook and the Nokias phonebook (7110 has room for 1000 names and 500 smsmessages). And also have a program to transfer sms messages from phone to hp for storing. And have the ability to send sms via ir from the Hp via the 7110/8810.. Am I asking for too much? Info on the new Nokia 7110 can be found on http:\\www.nokia.com somewhere.. -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:25:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Nokia 7110/8810 vs Hp200 lx/phonebookmanagment/sms sending.. Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't be of much help, given that I am in the US and we don't have any GSM capabilities yet. However, I do have a Nokia 616x, and have done some `drag and drop' phonebook management, and it has caused me to have a somewhat cautious view which may be of some use to you. On our phones, connection as a modem is (1) expensive; and (2) slow. I investigated it, and dropped the idea after I found that it would cost me several hundred US$ and would have given me 4800 baud connection. In Narvik, I suspect you will have somewhat better luck on this score. For the 616x, there is a product that allows `drag-and-drop'. Of course, it is a windows product, and wouldn't work on a 200/700, but then I now realize that I wouldn't want it to, anyway. I find I would _much rather_ manage my phone by having a simple ASCII list that I keep in good shape and then upload/download in this form rather than in some more elaborate way. For example, on my phone I was disappointed to learn that my lousy piece of software _couldn't_ merge two lists of names and numbers. It required that I drag, one-by-one, names from each list into a combined list. The stupid piece of software did not even allow block moves! I would have been much better off with a 200 and an ASCII editor! I guess what I'm saying is to `be careful what you wish for'. You may be unlucky and get it! Martin Bergvill wrote: > > I have: > Hp 200lx and a Hp 700 lx. > WWW/Lx latest version > Soon a Nokia 7110 (I hope..) > > What I want: > Use the 7110 as modem...(hope that this can be done because the 8810 > should work with Www/lx) > > Phonebookmanagment (transfer enteries between Hp and 7110) > > Sms sending capability (sending and transfer incoming sms from phone to > Hp) > > Hp 200 Lx/7110 irdamodem should work as the 8810 work with www/lx. Has > to test this before buying thoug.. > > But now to the main issue of this mail: does anyone know if there > are/will/can be made some software to manage phonenumbers/sms on a > 8810/7110 in dos/Hp systemmanager? > > I know that the 7110 phone is not yet released, but I have seen software > for Windows for the Nokia 8810 to manage phonebooks. These > phonebookmanagemensprograms was not Nokias and was Windows 9* only no > dosversions..(Ncds 3.0 is also Windows NT/9* only). > > I was curious on how the 8810/7110 and the Windowsplatform transfer > phonenumbers and manages sms transfer/sending... > > Does anyone know anything about this...can this be done? Does the > 8810/7110 "speak" a language that can be programmed/used in a > dosapplication.. > > My "dream" was that I could have a application on the Hp 200 where I > could "drag and drop" phonenumbers between the Hp phonebook and the > Nokias phonebook (7110 has room for 1000 names and 500 smsmessages). > > And also have a program to transfer sms messages from phone to hp for > storing. And have the ability to send sms via ir from the Hp via the > 7110/8810.. > > Am I asking for too much? > > Info on the new Nokia 7110 can be found on http:\\www.nokia.com > somewhere.. > > -- > Med vennlig hilsen/Regards > > Martin Bergvill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:59:23 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Keys in WP51 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There you can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII Editor which is capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you can use many more commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor should be free downloadable I think. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:28:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: ReÝ2¨: PCMCIA project Comments: To: Alejandro Paz In-Reply-To: <370612E2.6901C756@cotelco.com.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:50 -0300 Alejandro Paz =e9crivait: > (with the CF and turned-off) 22 mA (very rare no?) * > in idle (turned on with the CF) 48mA (is too much) Don't remember the standard HP95 values, but seems also to me a little high. BTW, had you problems whith the backup battery ? > in read or write : peaks of 220 mA. That's the point. And we know that the HP95 is more power consumpting that the HPx00lx... Imagine when you will have to restore your backup to the CF, using the serial port :-( > * this value is too high becuse there are a line (Card Detect 2) pulled d= own > (hardwired to ground) in the board (i think that of course, i see the lin= e > grounded in the board, but i not fix this, i do that in the next hours ..= ., > remember these machines are earlier than the PCMCIA 2.0. If I remember, it was even the first product sold with a PCMCIA adapter... > well, i can send you the test speed program or the driver commanted (by m= e of > course), Yes, I would be intersted. Jacques. ------------------------------ The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... ------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:34:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Cash Reward to fix my file Comments: To: Tom Nemeth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've noticed that a selective (10-20 at a time) extracting (File/Extract...) of records to another file will allow you to copy all the good stuff from your phone file, and leave the wrong stuff there do die. Takes a while, but it worked for me, losing about 30 records... Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Nemeth To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: Cash Reward to fix my file Hi Folks, As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probably a corrupted phone file. It's passworded (I know the password) and its driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there. As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on. I tried Garlic previously but it did not help. Any takers? Cheers from Muscat! tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:35:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Cash Reward to fix my file Comments: To: Tom Nemeth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Send me the file, and I can try! Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Nemeth To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: Cash Reward to fix my file Hi Folks, As a further demonstration of my general ineptitude, I offer $50 American dollars (in small, unmarked bills) to anyone who can undo what is probably a corrupted phone file. It's passworded (I know the password) and its driving me nuts not being able to recall a few addresses here and there. As insurance, I just bought a 32 meg CF card to do back ups on. I tried Garlic previously but it did not help. Any takers? Cheers from Muscat! tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:36:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: HP cases Comments: To: Tom Nemeth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The case I'm using right now is a PDA zippered Targus case. Looks like a daytimer -- similar to the PalmTree cases (camouflage for your palmtop: no one will know there's an organizer in there...) Extremely rugged, lifetime warranty, need I say more? Price is steep (40-80$), so look for sales. Just leave the zip open at the top for sliding in and out. They also have one that has a cellphone pocket for those who want everything in one place. I've got both, and leave them in my two larger targus and north face cases. This way, I can just slide the palmtop in there and know it won't get scratched or eat the dust. (www.targus.com) Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Nemeth To: Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: HP cases Well sonuva gun I can actually contribute for a change! I have a case that sounds a lot like yours Chris (it was Chris, wasn't it?). It's made by EB and I don't have the website but they advertised in the HP Palmto/Thaddeus publications. Currently I am using a Case Logic nylon/foam case (9 in x 4.5 in) made for pda's which at about $12.95 from Best Buy was a good buy. I modified it with all sorts of velcro to hold the HP plus a small leather PC Card case. It's a simple but clean set up. You can jam a few more things in there depending on how you like your population density. Now someone else recently commented on carrying more stuff with them and I noticed my Case Logic CD holder (6.5 in x 11.5 in) which is also black nylon foam with a 4 ring binder that hold CD sleeves which slide out of the inner pockets. (My wife says I have that look as I eye yet another case....) Anyway, to make a long story longer, this would make a killer case and looks like it'd carry just about everything one would need including a nice assortment of plugs, adapters, cables (emergency snickers and/or marlboros) and still have room for more "essential stuff." At about $20 it's pretty tempting. Tom in Muscat where it's now begining to get hot at 95 degrees F ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:45:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 In-Reply-To: <006a01be7e05$40dfaf10$8722fed4@NTFS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There > you can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII > Editor which is capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you > can use many more commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor > should be free downloadable I think. I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find anything called "program editor." Do you know what the file is called? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:12:24 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 200 lx : 2mo The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800 I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and financial programs: i'm student...) Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one.. Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more usefull... -----Message d'origine----- De : David Sargeant =C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date : samedi 3 avril 1999 22:49 Objet : Re: Keys in WP51 >On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > >> On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There >> you can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII >> Editor which is capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you >> can use many more commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor >> should be free downloadable I think. > >I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find >anything called "program editor." Do you know what the file is called? > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:14:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Comments: To: mihlo In-Reply-To: <006701be7e16$ad13f860$53ab24c3@dorli> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, mihlo wrote: > The 200 lx : 2mo > The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800 > I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have > quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and > financial programs: i'm student...) > Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one.. > Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more > usefull... If you're a student and you want the palmtop that's more useful, there's no contest. The 200LX. The 360LX might make a good toy, but for serious work, you need a 200LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:07:37 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sonuvabitchin idiots ..... 1. Avi never did this much mistyping errors 2. Avi always has a wordwrap, this jerk didn't I didn't have to look at the header to realize, that this mail wasn't from Avi. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:42:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Brian Sugita MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > "Harriet the Spy" :-) ... > side of it. I've been to lazy to paint over it. :) Does the paint scratch off? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:42:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: John Evans - N0HJ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Check out www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop! > > Can anyone verify this URL? It doesn't work for me at > this end!! John, don't put the exclamation mark - sorry just this... http://www.galaxymall.com/computer/palmtop I'll check it out too before I send it. Sorry for the trouble. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:44:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Lapp Subject: Help - a really locked 200lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My 8 m\double speed 200lx locked up big time and I need some help. I was executing a pocket quicken connect when the 200lx returned a double check error (I think). At that point it locked and I could not get it to respond. Tried ctrl+alt+del -nothing. Then I tried the ctrl+on+shift and no to the intialization question but it locked after several steps. Then I tried it again and apparently (because I was starting to panic) I answered yes to the intialization. Now the screens are all garbled including the top card. Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for repair. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:46:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Lapp Subject: Help - a really locked 200lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My 8 m\double speed 200lx locked up big time and I need some help. I was executing a pocket quicken connect when the 200lx returned a double check error (I think). At that point it locked and I could not get it to respond. Tried ctrl+alt+del -nothing. Then I tried the ctrl+on+shift and no to the initialization question but it stopped after several steps. Then I tried it again and apparently (because I was starting to panic) I answered yes to the initialization. A similar incident happened last summer and now I back up to SanDisk 40m. But unlike last year, the screens are all garbled including the top card. Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for repair. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:42:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Ýfluff¨ Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, > More like a couple of thugs see you sitting in the dark, typing on a > tiny computer illuminated by a kids "Harriet The Spy" flashlight and > decide to beat the daylights out of you just for kicks.. You mean beat the "flexlites" out of you? :) I just could not resist... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:42:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Claud, > His price, at $19.95, is somewhat better than $24.95. However, Mitch sold > these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one). What caused the price to go up so > much? I do not have any idea how he set the price and what it cost him I assume that he is relating it somehow to his cost and profit etc. He is an independent agent and not related to D&A, other than selling our product. I bought one at the higher price and I love it, even at that cost! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:35:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Claud, > I apologize for getting sucked into this - sorry for suspecting you really > had a temper . Actually, I'm serious about the apology. I really leapt > before I looked. :-) --- Temper I have, like anyone else. That I sometimes let it get the best of me is also true. But that post was ridiculous and so ugly and malicious... It was easy to believe. I almost went checking in my own email outbox :-) ... You do not need to apologise to _ME_. I, and you, and several others (Lynn Cavendish was the last one I know), were all victimized by a childish person. Sorry for him. If any apologies are to go anywhere, it is from that person to us. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:35:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Philippe Lewis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Yep, but still too much for a piece of plastic (yeah, I know about the > margins...). Oh, and yes, I saw stockchart. Good thing they're using > WWW/LX!!! I won't argue pricing of someone else. I did not fell that Thaddeus overcharged me, and I think that Palmtop Palace's price is even better, but to each his own. I am sure we can always shave another penny here and there, and damn near remove any profit from any price (and removing any incentive for that vendor to be in the market for us palmtoppers, too, in the process :( ...) And since you have a license for one, you are in good shape! :) You will also need to obtan GET.ZIP from ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/get.zip (you can use HV for that). This is the product which you can tell URLs and it goes and gets the list of URLs, and saves them on the Palmtop. There, unattended Web browsing :) .. I am very impressed with what Gary Leive did with combining elements that are available on the palmtop to create a sophisticated system for stock tracking and analysis. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:43:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case In-Reply-To: <37064E41.9B4B787C@enol.com> from "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" at Apr 3, 99 10:22:10 am Content-Type: text > like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in my hands, > it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it down and forget about > it. So, I carry it on my belt and even though it still gets in the way, I took my plain case and have sewn a large D Ring into the top. I use it with a belt clip that came with my Post slide rule! Talk about mixing technologies! But, I have often yearned for an ordinary belt clip... I'll look into this. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:48:02 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Sargeant wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, mihlo wrote: > > > The 200 lx : 2mo > > The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800 > > I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have > > quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and > > financial programs: i'm student...) > > Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one.. > > Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more > > usefull... > > If you're a student and you want the palmtop that's more useful, there's > no contest. The 200LX. The 360LX might make a good toy, but for serious > work, you need a 200LX. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I have a HP win ce machine I pick it up to play but turn to my 200LX FOR SERIOUS WORK. Need I say more. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:52:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: SC now Works! Content-Type: text I figured out the culprit with my SC/SSC problem. After tediously removing various TSRs one at a time, I found it. I had been experimenting with selectable boot options recently, and had installed LXCIC in my autoexec file to replace the CIC100 on the D: drive. I don't know if I had to do this, but I was experimenting with using LXCIC in the batch file to detect exactly what card I had plugged into my PCMCIA slot. Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit. By experimenting, it seems that I can't load it either before or after SC starts. Now.... can any of you experts speculate why there is this interference? And I'm so happy to have all the SC work areas now available! Now I'm off to get the CLIPVUE program... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:05:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia In-Reply-To: <3706347D.7CB5B74E@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Ness wrote: > I agree that `Fluff' doesn't make it ok to post pure-political > stuff any more than it would make it ok for me to post my > (incredibly boring) life history or the American League Schedule for > 1975. I wouldn't want to formalize rules for `Fluff' but it seems to me > that there should be _some_ reason that the audience of readers on the > list should be singled out to hear your words. > > We are not short of places to talk about politics. For me, however, > this _isn't_ one of them. On the other hand, who will care when World War III breaks out? Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:53:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > effective for that. Although, if you're going to carry soemthing that big and > heavy, it may as well be a WinCE gadget. But smacking thugs with it would > probably render it inoperable and void the warranty Is there any difference in functionality before and after smacking thugs with a WinCE? ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:53:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: I've almost had it. Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Sonuvabitchin idiots ..... > > 1. Avi never did this much mistyping errors > 2. Avi always has a wordwrap, this jerk didn't > > I didn't have to look at the header to realize, that this mail wasn't from > Avi. :-) ... Good man. I also don't use some of these expressions. I do not use "pound" in writing, I use "lbs.". I don't say "drive me insane", but instead "make me crazy". Also, when I write to Andreas, I have no inhibitions about x-rated words, I spell them out completely. In short, a lousy and transparent immitation. Someone told me that since spoofing is a form of imitation, and imitation is a high form of flattery, I should feel ok about it. But in this case, the imitation is lousy, and not flattering at all. :-) Thanks for the post. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:40:39 -0330 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Brian Sugita In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990402134439.007de740@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:44:39 -0800 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free > from my friends little girl. She had gotten it free in her McDonalds > happy meal. The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the > side of it. I've been to lazy to paint over it. :) Maybe you want to put an adhesive label over it (easier). Anyone know a source to get plain blank labels? Black, in this case, is it? Or some such color. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:09:02 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Keys in WP51 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > I'm at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/wpdos/5x/ but can't find > anything called "program editor." Do you know what the file is called? I don't know if it is available from Corel's FTP site, but you can find the editor on the same page that has DataPerfect available for download. http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/download.html (it's called EDITOR.ZIP). Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:44:13 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX mihlo writes: > The 200 lx : 2mo > The 360 lx : 8 mo + 10 mo flash card + Modem Pcmcia 28800 > > I pay the same price for the two, which one have i to choose (i dont have > quicken in the 360 lx, i dont have the cd rom and i WANT quicken....and > financial programs: i'm student...) > > Help me, i have the 2 at home and i have to keep just one.. > > Don't tell that the 360 is more expensive, i want the better one, more > usefull... First sorry about the bad web address, it should have been thaddeus not thaddius. Second, about the choice, I would go with the 200LX. The reason for this is there is a better choice of software for the 200LX than CE. As a student I don't see any need to sync with Outlook and in my personal opinion that would be the only reason to use CE. I would think you would need better word processing, math tools, spreadsheet, business, etc than what is offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and slow. So unless you really need that Outlook sync really bad, go with the 200LX--you'll get a better tool. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:50:55 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Stockchart Hi Does anyone know the correct URL for the FOREX in Stockchart? It changed on me and I haven't time to go look it up. :( Thanks. John Musielewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:03:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: SC now Works! > Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit. By experimenting, it seems Odd... I use SC and lxcic and don't have a problem. Are you sure the swap file is the correct size? I use the sizer worksheet to calculate it out and have never had a single problem with it. I am using the latest version from Thaddeus, don't use EMM, and have 9 sessions I run. I am running it on a 32 meg DS 200LX. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:18:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Help - a really locked 200lx Comments: To: Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM In-Reply-To: <85256748.0076ECCF.00@ecmta01.ecld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you have a double-speed machine? If so, the garbling is caused by the lack of speed driver. What I would do is load the driver onto the Sandisk card, then boot from that card (just create a config.sys file that includes device=spd31.sys or whatever the driver is called nowadays, and put the card in). If you don't have a speed-upgraded machine, then it won't be quite as easy to fix. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:27:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Help - a really locked 200lx Comments: To: Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Any suggestions on how to fix - hope I don't have to return to Thaddeus for > repair. You need to get the double speed driver back to the palmtop from either an a: drive or by datacom or some such to the c: drive to get the screen clear. I don't have a double speed so don't know the name of the driver. Good luck. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:28:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Help - a really locked 200lx In-Reply-To: <85256748.0076ECCF.00@ecmta01.ecld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Joe Lapp wrote: > My 8 m\double speed 200lx locked up big time and I need some help. I guess I should have re-read the first sentence; obviously you DO have a double-speed 200LX. Okay, so you need the driver. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:37:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: test message. please dont read MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test message ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:45:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Programmimg Language for DOS Applications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd like some advise. Which programming language would you experts recommend to a novice for programming DOS applications for both the HP200LX and desktop? The app I'm first considering is an outliner working with ASCII data files. I really like PC-Outline, but I'm tired of having data files corrupted and I'm willimng to use something simple that's reliable. I'm not naive enough to think this will be easy. Many years ago I learned Fortran I, II, and IV; wrote a small 500 line program. So I realize how complicated programming can be. Although I have access to Hyperpad, I'd prefer to use whatever you experts recommend. Thanks for your advise. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:41:46 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Help locate duplicate file utility Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >What I had was a program that looked at the size and contents to see if they >were identical. Now, I can't remember if this was a DOS utility or maybe a Hi Alan Is this it? I use DFL (Duplicate file locator) It does what you want.. Fast CRC find and also exact match to find where you may have changed a name with duplicate contents etc. It is a DOS prog and I have used vers 3.11 as well as now 3.40. Should be on download.com or shareware.com. NB To use it on the flash card you will need to assign e:=a: as it only works on HD not floppy. Other than that it works great on the LX. :)) Let me know if you want it posted. Regards Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:02:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Help - a really locked 200lx Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > Do you have a double-speed machine? If so, the garbling is caused by the > lack of speed driver. What I would do is load the driver onto the Sandisk > card, then boot from that card (just create a config.sys file that > includes device=spd31.sys or whatever the driver is called nowadays, and > put the card in). If you don't have a speed-upgraded machine, then it > won't be quite as easy to fix. Expanding a little more, you were supplied with a driver disk which contains an EXE version of the driver. Chances are, if your system is like mine without the speed driver (as in, scrambled like the brains of a smack-addicted goat) it won't be legible enough to do much, but I've found I can type "a:\spd31" pretty reliably, even blind. :) Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:31:05 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit re: win-ce > offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it > as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some > people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and Well, I would have to disagree to some extent. By version 5.9 or thereabouts, the OS will probably be mature. But then, that operating system will not run on any current win-ce device meaning folks will be upgrading the entire physical unit. It has already happened with the "upgradeable" 300/320's and will probably occur again. That does not mean that for some folks, win-ce would be a perfect solution. Folks need to assess their needs carefully. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:26:51 -0800 Reply-To: sagall@ibm.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Gall Subject: Re: Those little rubber footies Comments: To: MCarson@ORST.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mina Carson wrote: > > No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series. > One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its > accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the > screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there > anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware? > > Direct from HP: Palmtop Maintenance Kit , Product number F1216-60998 This kit includes feet(8), screws (3), infrared cover (2), battery cover (2), backup battery tray (2) in case you happen to change this battery frequenctly, id plate (2) , hingecap sets (2) Al fro the low price of about $US20 direct from HP I'm missig their phone # but snail mail: support material organization, 3382 Venture Drive Lincoln, CA 95648 you'll have it in 1-3 days Stan Gall ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:22:47 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Programmimg Language for DOS Applications > Which programming language would you experts recommend to a novice for > programming DOS applications for both the HP200LX and desktop? Forth. You can get HP-Pygmy Forth from the SUPER site. Forth is really nice because you can develop very fast and its much easier to learn than other high level languages like pascal or C, which I was teaching myself until I found forth . Plus the source for the language is usually availible which means you can custom tailor the library for the application without an excessive amount of work--although it helps to know assembly for the x86. But even if you don't know assembly, you'll learn it very fast working with it using Forth--Forth kind of cushions the mnemonic learning curve. All and all its a great fun language to learn. Get HP-Pygmy if you want to learn more and check out www.forth.org for more information. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:38:18 -0800 Reply-To: sagall@ibm.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Gall Subject: ÝFwd: Re: Those little rubber footies¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------29E45F22FFD" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------29E45F22FFD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the phone for HP support materials supply--1-800-227-8164 they give great service also, the sears torx screw driver set, also available as part of a larger set "micro-Tech expert (12 pc)" is excellent. --------------29E45F22FFD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <3706EA0B.1BA7@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 20:26:51 -0800 From: sagall@ibm.net Reply-To: sagall@ibm.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HPLX Mailing List , MCarson@ORST.EDU Subject: Re: Those little rubber footies References: <33FEA12D4ABFD1119D9000A0C9699E003D2877@hercules.NWS.ORST.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mina Carson wrote: > > No, you know the ones - at each corner of the sitting-side of the LX series. > One corner of my 200LX has declared independence of its footie AND its > accompanying little screw. Miraculously, I found the footie, but I think the > screw is history. Short of making HP honor my extended warranty, is there > anywhere I can get that little piece of hardware? > > Direct from HP: Palmtop Maintenance Kit , Product number F1216-60998 This kit includes feet(8), screws (3), infrared cover (2), battery cover (2), backup battery tray (2) in case you happen to change this battery frequenctly, id plate (2) , hingecap sets (2) Al fro the low price of about $US20 direct from HP I'm missig their phone # but snail mail: support material organization, 3382 Venture Drive Lincoln, CA 95648 you'll have it in 1-3 days Stan Gall --------------29E45F22FFD-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:34:48 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX F. Kaufman writes: > re: win-ce > > > offered by CE. Plus I think the OS is kind of iffy--I don't see it > > as it becoming the workhorse in the the embedded market that some > > people propound it is going to become. It is just too big and > > Well, I would have to disagree to some extent. By version 5.9 or > thereabouts, the OS will probably be mature. But then, that operating > system will not run on any current win-ce device meaning folks will be > upgrading the entire physical unit. It has already happened with the > "upgradeable" 300/320's and will probably occur again. > > That does not mean that for some folks, win-ce would be a perfect > solution. Folks need to assess their needs carefully. Yes, I agree, people do need to be careful but from what I've read on embedded technology and the handheld market, I am finding that CE is just not as acceptable as was broadcast by the M$ propaganda machine even as much as a year ago. Even the flavor of the M$ CE web page has changed from stressing the versatility of CE to more of a desktop solution. I think that no doubt CE will be a future OS but I just don't think it makes a good handheld OS anymore than Win 3.1, 95 or NT would. I ran 3.1 on a PC110 and it couldn't compare to DOS or DOS on my 200LX. It was hard to work with, slow, hard to see, in general just a pain in the rear. And this was on a 486!!! I would think 95 or NT would be worse! I think a mouse based technology has its place but...I feel they have pretty much reached the limits. Thats why notebooks stay pretty large. I think the one avantage CE handhelds do have (besides Outlook) is the hardware but with CE on top of it it isn't a big one. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 20:54:33 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: How to run Volkov Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel, > Try Volkov Commander (available on SUPER)! > It's a Norton Commander clone and works great on the palmtop. > But I don't know about the copy speed.. I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to require cold boot. Is there a secret I missed? :)... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:22:04 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: How to run Volkov Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l >it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to >require cold boot. > >Is there a secret I missed? :)... Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a patch for it that is on the Super site. Just do a search from the main page for Volkov and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS Patch". Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:27:58 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light ready! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi again, the instructions for building the LED light for the LX is now available in the MORE &... section on www.palmtop.net or directly on the URL www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html Thanks to Mitch Hamm! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 04:41:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: cell and hp email connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, all. i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel phones.. I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering what people in the states use for this. specifically, i am using = post/lx on an 8mb ds hp200. I would like to use IrDa if this exists here. I am in southern california.... thought that is would be worth investigating before plucking a lot of money down. of course, it might be prohibitively expensive. mucho dave mar ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:41:43 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: WWW/LX: min memory to run POST/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi WWW/LX users, trying to use one or two EXMs in parallell to POST, I want to know the minimum memory necessary to run POST. Since setup.exe must be run as POST-external for some setups (Add Mailbox f.ex.), I run POST with lots of memory offline for setup etc., and currently with only 350KB when going online. Are there experiences for minimum memory needed by POST for online processing? Thanks in advance. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:49:52 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: POST/LX: gmx.net mailbox settings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi WWW/LX users, this may be mainly to European users. Currently I can't login to my gmx.net mailbox using POST/LX. I'm getting the error msg: 'Bad Address - 451 - Need to authenticate via POP3 first' Using OUTLOOK, I can login, so I think the user-id and password should be correct. I was able to send and receive mail using this mailbox early this year after the gmx login change (without using a special login script). Was something changed again? I'll contact the gmx people also. Thanks in advance. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:56:38 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: CeBit: PCMCIA-Multiport MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, on CeBit Mobility Electronics offered a 'Docking-Station for all' (Notebooks I think). It uses a PC-Card to connect to the Notebook. Anybody saw it, heard of it? Can it be used with the LX? Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:00:16 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: SC and LXCIC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm very surprised to hear that LXCIC is suspected to cause trouble with SC because I wrote LXCIC just for use with SC! As you may know, running CIC100 in just one SC session crashes the palmtop at the next task switch and there is no way to unload CIC100. That is, you cannot run CIC100 in only one SC session. However starting CIC100 before SC constantly takes away 7KB from every work session. To overcome this limitiation of CIC100, I decided to write LXCIC as a removable TSR, able to be started before SC for use in every work session or after SC for just one work session without disabling SC task switch. At the beginning I used LXCIC only in one SC session, but now I load it before SC to be more flexible in my sessions, and because LXCIC only needs about 800 bytes resident. The relevant part of my AUTOEXEC.BAT looks like: (I added the ';' commments for your convenience) ... rem load TSR's DSPEED ;double speed clock driver LXCIC/L ;load LXCIC resident NUMLOCK ;numlock simulater STEF8B ;my system font LXPRO ;battery voltage etc. LIGHTON ;Led light TSR rem start SC CAROUSEL ;SC well, I just realized that I only use my own TSR's, that might explain why I have no problems ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:22:05 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light on palmtop.net Comments: To: mitch@palmtop.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mitch (and list - just for info: there are errors on www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html!) I have to add something to my last message: --- begin of forwarded message --- P.S.: You forgot to set a link to the picture needed1.jpg. --- end of forwarded message --- ...and the link to 'needed2.jpg'. It's possible that I've used the same pictures as in my other instructions. (don't know exactly... sorry!) If so, you can delete the duplicate and use the picture of the connector-howto. And: the ASCII-'pictures' in sections 4 and 10 look terrible. But that is my mistake: My editor I wrote the text with probably replaced some spaces by tabs. I'll send you the corrected 'pictures' in another mail from my desktop computer (where I made the instruction). It would be great if you replaced it by the corrected one! Thanks again, daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:37:43 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: How to run Volkov In-Reply-To: <003101be7e5b$1b0ccce0$471e4fc6@JohnReid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote: > >I tried it three times. It always froze my machine. I d/l > >it three different times. The palmtop froze hard enough to > >require cold boot. > > > >Is there a secret I missed? :)... > > Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a patch for > it that is on the Super site. Just do a search from the main page for Volkov > and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS Patch". VC doesn't like the zoom modes either, so make sure you're in 80x25 mode. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:41:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steve D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steve D." Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just spent a month with a 360LX, and yesterday decided to come back to my 200LX that my wife had taken to keep her phone numbers. I traded back with her. The 360 is fine for what she uses it for. I restored my last backup onto the 200 yesterday morning, and was absolutely delighted to be back on my old 200... then disaster struck. My youngest son dumped a half a glass of water right over my 200LX! (I refuse to beleive this is a sign to go back to CE! ) I set the 200 up on edge in front of a fan for most of the day, and amazingly it came back on! (although it wiped out everything. I'm going to have to do another restore.) My problem is that there are about 9 keys that still won't work. I'm thinking that there might still be some moisture under there. I just pryed off the keyboard cover, and set the 200 in front of the fan again. I'm hoping that the keys will start working again sometime today. If they don't start working... do any list members have any suggestions? I would imagine that something like this has bound to have happened to others here. Did you end up having to open up the case? Any suggestions? Maybe I just need to be patient and keep it in front of the fan a little longer? TIA, Steve ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:56:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Andy In-Reply-To: <199904040103.VAA29257@firma.thezone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of course. The black labels you seek are available free. They're included with each package of 5-1/4" floppy disks you buy - the write protect tabs Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 8:11 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light > > > Date sent: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:44:39 -0800 > Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , > Brian Sugita > From: Brian Sugita > Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > > I almost bought one of these, but just before I did. I got one free > > from my friends little girl. She had gotten it free in her McDonalds > > happy meal. The only difference is it says "Harriet the Spy" on the > > side of it. I've been to lazy to paint over it. :) > > Maybe you want to put an adhesive label over it (easier). > Anyone know a source to get plain blank labels? Black, in this > case, is it? Or some such color. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:00:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Comments: To: "Steve D." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL batteries. Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data. And others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was clear water??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:01:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: cell and hp email connection Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I investigated using my cel phone for data purposes and found that (1) it would cost me several hundred dollars for the modem and the cables involved; and (2) I could then expect a 4800 baud connection. Since I normally connect with a cable modem, I knew I wouldn't be able to tolerate such a slow connection, and I knew that I'd be aggravated by the high price, so I gave up until some `true' all-digital service (i.e. one that doesn't do digital->analogue->digital conversion) comes along... Dave - wrote: > > Hello, all. > > i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel > phones.. I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering > what people in the states use for this. specifically, i am using post/lx on an > 8mb ds hp200. I would like to use IrDa if this exists here. I am in > southern california.... > > thought that is would be worth investigating before plucking a lot of > money down. of course, it might be prohibitively expensive. > > mucho > > dave mar ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:02:00 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: Fluff Fluff The Bombing of Yugoslavia MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >I have replied to you personally and on this list. If people don't = want > >this discussion on the list, I understand. Hopefully "Fluff" makes it > >OK. > > Hal, I disagree, I don't think a pure-political post belongs on > this even if it is labeled FLUFF. > And......for my two cents. I very much appreciate hearing all sorts of other thoughts. (That's probably because I live so far out of the mainstream of life - on Eastern Java Island). I too find it just amazing that it's possible to be having a 'conversation' about this sort of thing on the internet. It shows how free things are. It also shows that the power and need for governments is waining - but that's another topic. (Read Megatrends 2000). Thanks for your thoughts, Steve Soper ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:02:05 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: Downloading from SUPER Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER? = The > problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working... > I've had some problems with the files that I downloaded. When I tried to unzip them (with pkunzip) they said the that the zip file had errors. I also tried unzipping them with winzip, and it didn't work. This was with the driver for downloading pictures from a Kodak dc10, and filer, and one other Japanese program. I tried pkzipfix on them and that didn't work. I tried renaming them with lzh extension to see if they might actually be compressed that way, and that didn't help. Any ideas, or suggestions, for uncompressing these files? Anybody else have any problems with some of the J-files on SUPER? Thanks, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:08:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Downloading from SUPER Comments: To: Steve Soper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems to me that both of your problems are most likely explained by a bad connection between you and the net. Offhand, I'd assume that you were getting arguments from pkzip because the file was corrupt, probably by transmission. I have a reasonably stable cable modem connection, so if you want me to test, mail me the names of the files and I'll download them and see if I get errors. The various Zips are all so reliable that I'd really be surprised if something other than transmission was at fault. If one version of zip reports trouble, there's rarely any profit in trying other zips. They're generally _very_ consistent. Steve Soper wrote: > > > Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading from SUPER? The > > problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working... > > > I've had some problems with the files that I downloaded. When I tried > to unzip them (with pkunzip) they said the that the zip file had > errors. I also tried unzipping them with winzip, and it didn't work. > This was with the driver for downloading pictures from a Kodak dc10, > and filer, and one other Japanese program. I tried pkzipfix on them > and that didn't work. I tried renaming them with lzh extension to see > if they might actually be compressed that way, and that didn't help. > > Any ideas, or suggestions, for uncompressing these files? Anybody else > have any problems with some of the J-files on SUPER? > > Thanks, > Steve > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:00:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: How to run Volkov Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >VC doesn't like the zoom modes either, so make sure you're in 80x25 mode. Strangely enough I think my patch fixes that problem as well as I don't have a problem running it in any of the zoom modes. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 10:36:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: rtatham@ibm.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks Does anyone have any idea who the programmers are who worked on the free HP to Schedule+ Tool? Or the Free sych tool for Lotus Organizer 2.1? If we knew who maybe one of them would be interested in creating a custom addon to Harmony. After all who ever did those two tools already know the HP end of things. Ron Tatham wrote: > > As I had posted previously, those of us who aren't prrogrammers and who > want to get others to help keep our calendars up-to-date have a different > view of the problem. This is my view which prompted me to post a $250 > prize with Mitch at Super for anyone who who do what i am incapable of > doing. > this clipped from a note to mitch: -- ===== URLs=========== Harmony Synchronization Tool http://www.extendedsystems.com/prodinfo/specifications/enterprise.html Translator SDK - ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/Translator.zip HarmonySync SDK -ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/HarmonySync.zip Developer edition of Harmony ftp://ftp.extendsys.com/harmony/developer/hmnydev.zip ===================== Lotus Organzier 2.1 ftp.pc.ibm.com/pub/pccbbs/commercial_desktop/zq6t00a.exe ==================== Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 09:09:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curtis, Did you see the posting on Harmony I made? The problem with Outlook is it is a moving target. Do you work with Outlook97, or Outlook98 (neither have VBA just VBscript) or Outlook2000? Harmony is setup to make it easy for folks to make custom add ons. Somebody has done that of of course with IntelliSync, the HP thing for Schedule+ and the Lotus freebie for Lotus Organizer 2.1. If any of those had been setup like Harmony we'd still be able to use them. So if anyone can make a custom addon for harmony to link to the HP-dos-LX then Harmony would take care of the moving target. It can link to Lotus Notes, Outlook and a dozen others. Curtis Cameron wrote: > > Is anyone working on the Outlook/LX converter? I could loan some > skills to the project. One thing I don't have is experience > programming with VBA, but I think it's possible to automate tasks > within Outlook using VBA. Is this correct? > > If so, I can envisage a tool which uses VBA to automatically prompt a > user to export data (calendar and/or contacts), and then if possible > launch an external program to use one of the GDBIO tools to convert > data into the palmtop's format. > > It seems possible also to go the other direction. Synchronization > would be much harder. Anyone have VBA skills? > > -- > Curtis Cameron > WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:06:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: Patrick West MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do you mean by `... know the HP end of things ...'? There isn't much to `know' is there? Or maybe I should say `What is it that you don't know?', I don't see much with respect to the HP that isn't pretty straightforward... Patrick West wrote: > > Folks > > Does anyone have any idea who the programmers are > who worked on the free HP to Schedule+ Tool? > Or the Free sych tool for Lotus Organizer 2.1? If > we knew who maybe one of them would be interested > in creating a custom addon to Harmony. After all > who ever did those two tools already know the HP > end of things. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:06:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: COLINS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0<< Does anybody=A0 know how to get the 200LX show the full screen = when using the COLINS=20 newest version of electronic dic.?=A0 >> =A0 As far as I know, you only can get the half screen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:11:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Downloading from SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I just was able to search from www.PalmtopPaper.com and downloaded. (www.thaddeus.com links to www.palmtoppaper.com). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 11:18:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Downloading from SUPER In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: > I just was able to search from www.PalmtopPaper.com and downloaded. > (www.thaddeus.com links to www.palmtoppaper.com). Yeah, it's working again. Yesterday it must have been down-- even the banner ads weren't showing up. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:43:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: 1-2-3 addins: R.Maartens Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Thanks so much for your quick and informative reply. I found the Simtel site and the sims35e.zip file but after about 15 minutes of downloading I got a message that "The operation timed out" and "Internet Explorer cannot download from the internet site sims35e.zip from oak.oakland.edu" Perhaps I missed something in the meaning of "... and bounce to the new site". Can you help? Is the @base program on the Infobase CD or only the @base article? Where else could I look for the @base program? Rian Maartens > >>I searched the CD Infobase for @base > > Searching for Merkle & base shows the article in the Sept/Oct, '96 = issue. > > It's full of references to @base. The search engine doesn't like "@" I > guess. > > In the meantime, here are a couple of workarounds. > 1. Simstat35e (711K) from Simtel (www.simtel.com and bounce to the new > site). > .ed.ÝPTP¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:49:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Claud. <> and Philippe, <> I will give a truthful but perhaps an unpopular explanation. As consumers (especially sophisticated ones like those of us on this mailing list), we are all used to buying computer products from very efficient warehouse companies who have lots of products with lots of volume and low profit margins. We have sadly seen the demise of ACE, EduCalc and a number of other 200LX-related businesses. My experience is that the way to stay profitable with a low volume of sales is to find products of good value to the customer that can be sold with high margin. We had a good year last year and we are holding our own this year. We have a number of products in which our cost of the product (eg CD InfoBase, SuperSoftware Carousel, even our rechargeable batteries) is much less than what we charge. These are, in fact, the same Flexlites that Mitch sold. I purchased them through Mitch (saving him the hassle of selling them individually). It costs us a lot to create and mail out 50K catalogs, to process orders, do support, take returns etc. From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price. If people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns without hassling or a restocking fee. Further, we are motivated to continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a fair profit. This business in paying my salary and the salary of a number of others in our small town. No one is getting rich -- not that that would be a bad thing, but, we are doing OK. Hope that explains things. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:57:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Ian, Please see my explanation on pricing on another email in this thread. <> I don't know the source of them as we bought them used and we are out of them. <>> Maybe we should have charged twice as much. Actually, the margin on the batteries is quite high. As I said in the other email, we try to give value. Low volume means we have to charge high margin. It simply is not worth is for us to inventory, market, and service products where we make less than $15 gross profit. (And hardly worth it for $15 profit). So in the case of batteries and adapters, would customers be better off if we didn't offer them, because of a big margin? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:16:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Richard, I did reply on this thread. Hope your gadget budget increases. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:20:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Help - a really locked 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Joe, I have sent you privately a CONFIG.SYS and driver files which should go on C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:33:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: HP200LX SSC-COPYING BETWEEN PALMTOPS & PE E-MAILS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Rian, <> Clipvue, mentioned by others in this thread, is "built in" Super Software Carousel. Press HELP icon in either Ctrl 2 or Ctrl 3. It is point 6 under "Hidden Builtin Goodies". ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:43:51 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: cell and hp email connection Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, To the best of my knowledge there is currently no IRDA phone that will work with the 200LX in the US. I use a Sagem 755 1900MHz PCS/GSM phone with builtin fax/modem that accepts standard AT commands through the serial port. I get a 9600 baud connection that has proven to be very reliable. I know a few other people on the list also have this phone now. It is available from Dave Shier http:\\www.shier.com. Dave Shier is in So. Cal. and uses Pac Bell as his provider IIRC. This message will be sent through the Sagem phone. GaryS > i have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel > phones.. I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering > what people in the states use for this. specifically, i am using > post/lx on an > 8mb ds hp200. I would like to use IrDa if this exists here. I am in > southern california.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:52:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: cell and hp email connection Comments: To: Gary Spiers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary, You meant: http://www.shier.com/ The URL you posted had backslants not forward slants... Gary Spiers wrote: > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 14:55:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: SC now Works! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Chris, Clipvue is in SSC - Alt Memo. Check SSC Help, Hidden Goodies, 6. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:38:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: COLINS In-Reply-To: from "Hal Goldstein" at Apr 4, 99 01:06:45 pm Content-Type: text >> Does anybody know how to get the 200LX show the full screen when >> using the COLINS newest version of electronic dict? > > As far as I know, you only can get the half screen. Hal: Could I bother you and/or your able associates to look into this a little further? There was a post on the list a few weeks back from a user with the Collins dictionary about 1 version back from the one I have from you, and he had certain start-up switches that would run the program in full screen. So, given that it used to have this capability, perhaps it still does, and we just don't know the switch/keystroke? Just a thought... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:43:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: SC and LXCIC In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Peichl" at Apr 4, 99 12:00:16 pm Content-Type: text > I'm very surprised to hear that LXCIC is suspected to cause > trouble with SC because I wrote LXCIC just for use with SC! Stefan: I still wonder about my conclusion - maybe it isn't actually LXCIC, but rather a combination of LXCIC with some other TSR I run. In the intereste of intellectual curiosity, I'll work some more with it, and see if I can narrow it down to a single combination of LXCIC and tsr-X... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 15:00:06 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX > > My problem is that there are about 9 keys that still won't work. I'm > thinking that there might still be some moisture under there. I just > pryed off the keyboard cover, and set the 200 in front of the fan > again. I'm hoping that the keys will start working again sometime today. > > If they don't start working... do any list members have any suggestions? > I would imagine that something like this has bound to have happened to > others here. Did you end up having to open up the case? Any suggestions? > > Maybe I just need to be patient and keep it in front of the fan a little > longer? Remove the batteries and pull it apart then check for moisture. If there is none clean the keyboard contacts with a qtip and denatured alcohol. If you have access to compressed air it would be a good idea to blow it under and around the none working keys to get out any remaining moisture. Put it together and it should work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:47:05 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Antonio Queiroz Menezes Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: NKIT/Turbo C Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error : "Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S". It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or "matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution. Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that. TIA Regards Antonio ---------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes ---------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:02:09 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: cell and hp email connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, too much chocolate today ;-) > You meant: http://www.shier.com/ > The URL you posted had backslants not forward slants... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:00:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: post/lx and PE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello, all. a few questions for the hp gurus.... first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor. for ths list i know that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes. for work, though, it is necessary. but, the software always asks me if i want to do this. is there any toggle or default? second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the message of an email, it would jump right into pe. now i get the welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue.....never had that before. I know it isa great piece that they provide, but the screen is prtty annoying. can we toggle this? last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me what i want to do...is there a default that can be set? i know these are fine points, but with 100% hp200 email, every keystroke counts.....and every one is less time strapped to a desktop.... thanks in advance... dave mar ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:05:20 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: COLINS Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> Does anybody know how to get the 200LX show the full screen when > >> using the COLINS newest version of electronic dict? > > > > As far as I know, you only can get the half screen. > > So, given that it used to have this capability, perhaps it still > does, and we just don't know the switch/keystroke? > I seem to have version 1.1 for Dos and it appears to run in a full window but I'm not sure what you see. Here is its syntax screen accessed by: E:\COLLINS>collins /? Collins Electronic Series 100 (c) 1992, HarperCollins Publishers Ltd Usage: COLLINS.EXE <-r> <-m> <-help language> <-hotkey number>, where Meaning of flags: -r : resident program -m : monochrome mode Help language: Default english help file -f : French help -d : German help -i : Italian help -e : Spanish help Hotkey number HotKey-combination 0 ALT + SPACE (default) 1 CTRL + V 2 ALT + V 3 ALT + CTRL + V 4 ALT + CTRL + SPACE ..... end syntax ........ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:15:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steve D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steve D." Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I completely tore the unit and keyboard apart and made sure everything was dry and clean... but to no avail. When I put the unit back together again, it worked exactly the same way it did before...everything works except 9 keys. This is a HUGE bummer!! Until I can either replace or fix the 200LX I'm going to be forced back to using CE on the 360LX. Damn!! : ( >You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL batteries. Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data. And others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was clear water??? > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:45:06 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Try diagnostics (esc+on) and see if the keyboard works. It still sounds like crud in the keyboard or the keyboard connector though. You might try getting some electrical solvent from an electronic parts store with a can of compressed air. Remove the keyboard and spray it really good-- especially under the keys. Then use the compressed air to blow the solvent out--it'll disolve any crud and take it with as you blow it out. If you have access to another 200LX you could swap in another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in the controller. Which keys aren't working? Steve D. writes: > I completely tore the unit and keyboard apart and made sure everything was > dry and clean... but to no avail. When I put the unit back together again, > it worked exactly the same way it did before...everything works except 9 > keys. This is a HUGE bummer!! Until I can either replace or fix the 200LX > I'm going to be forced back to using CE on the 360LX. Damn!! : ( > > > >You should sacrifice any data and remove all of the batteries - ALL > batteries. Then thoroughly dry and replace batteries and then data. And > others have had similar occurances and it usually does work again if it was > clear water??? > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download.html > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 22:52:32 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: 1999 CD Infobase I have the 1997 Infobase from Thaddeus and have been considering the 99. The only problem is I'd like to be able to read it in DOS. The 97 could only be read in Winblows. Does anyone know if the 99 can be read in DOS? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Feb 1980 22:03:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , k7vqu@FPBYRAM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Weiss Subject: Looking For Battery Powered Ext. Modem for 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi All I am a newbie to the list. I have been using my HP95 since '93. I have not outgrown it. It still does everything that I need. I am looking for a modem which will fit in the cradle next to the computer. If not I wll use one of the older worlport modems If I can find one. Pref 9600 at least. Thanks Mark Weiss Mark Weiss Ham Radio Call K7VQU Packet:K7VQU@N6EEG.NCA.CA.USA.NOAM Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Feb 1980 22:03:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , k7vqu@FPBYRAM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Weiss Subject: Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case Comments: cc: rclott@RO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 I have been usding a rip-off belt clip case for many years now. Very well built cases. Check them out at: www.ripoffs.com Mark Weiss I don't work for them...just giving advice from my own humble existance. On 1999-04-03 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said: >> like the idea of a belt clip because I hate carrying something in >>my hands, it gets in the way, and it's just too easy to set it >>down and forget about it. So, I carry it on my belt and even >though it still gets in the way, >I took my plain case and have sewn a large D Ring into the top. I >use it with a belt clip that came with my Post slide rule! Talk >about mixing technologies! But, I have often yearned for an >ordinary belt clip... I'll look into this. >-Chris >-- >******************************************************************** >**** R. Christopher Lott, P.E. >rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama >******************************************************************** >**** >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mark Weiss Ham Radio Call K7VQU Packet:K7VQU@N6EEG.NCA.CA.USA.NOAM Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:41:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave Mar: > first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor. for ths list i know > that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes. for work, > though, it is necessary. but, the software always asks me if i want to > do this. is there any toggle or default? Which software asks? What does the question look like, please? BTW, do you have in POST.CFG this line: NoQuote=0 Or NoQuote=1 The former quotes, the latter does not. > second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the > message of an email, it would jump right into pe. now i get the > welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue.....never had > that before. I know it isa great piece that they provide, but the > screen is prtty annoying. can we toggle this? You press CTRL-E while in Post/LX. Then go to the global settings and make sure the PE entry is this: Editor=pe $f $h and TempMsgFile=post.tmp This will pickup the original message and put it in post.tmp. That file will be opened in $f. $h is for the original message headers... It'll be a second file PE opens. Move among open files in PE by using F7=Next. > last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me > what i want to do...is there a default that can be set? Do you also have in POST.CFG Clog=0 or Clog=1 The latter clogs your process with lots of questions, confirmations, bla, bla... > i know these are fine points, but with 100% hp200 email, every > keystroke counts.....and every one is less time strapped to a > desktop.... If you can save 1 minute on as many emails as I write per day, you get back a nice chunk of your life back - so I empathize with what you are trying to achieve...:) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:50:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steve D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steve D." Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A thru H on the white keys don't work, and 7 thru / on the black keys don't work. There also seems to be some kind of short that drains my batterys within about an hour even when the unit is turned off. I also just discovered that I must have not put something back together correctly, because now the AC jack apparently isn't working either. I'll tear it apart again tomorrow and try to get the AC jack working. Then I'll try the diagnostics and the hard resets. BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts about that? Thank you VERY much for all your suggestions John. I appreciate the help! Steve >another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in >the controller. Which keys aren't working? ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:12:05 +0800 Reply-To: J H Chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: J H Chin Subject: Email with HP200lx in Shanghai China MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F2_01BE7F7F.0C71A0A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01BE7F7F.0C71A0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List, Can you share your experience if you have success in send/retrieve email = with HP200lx in Shanghai? TIA J H Chin ------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01BE7F7F.0C71A0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi List,
 
Can you share your experience if you = have=20 success in send/retrieve email with HP200lx in Shanghai?
 
TIA
J H Chin
------=_NextPart_000_01F2_01BE7F7F.0C71A0A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 01:45:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 19:00:35 -0400, Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> = wrote: All of things that you listed can be changed by editing your pe.cfg Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:31:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: 1999 CD InfoBase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Does anyone know if Ý the 1999 CD-InfoBase ¨ can be read in DOS? The 1999 CD InfoBase is still a Windows - oriented product. = .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:17:25 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Steve D. writes: > A thru H on the white keys don't work, and 7 thru / on the black keys don't > work. When a key is pressed it just shorts a contact so if there are contaminates in there the key won't make contact. These keys are probably where all the contaminates settled on the keyboard. > There also seems to be some kind of short that drains my batterys Ah a path to ground--not good. Or a surge of current from all the water may have overloaded the batteries. You may need to dischargw them completely then recharge them for them to work right again Or if alkyline just replace them. > within about an hour even when the unit is turned off. I also just > discovered that I must have not put something back together correctly, > because now the AC jack apparently isn't working either. > When you take out the keyboard check the traces very closely to make sure none have broken and also be as careful as possible not to bend the board. Sounds like there may be some gunk on the mainboard too. When you have that out examine the board very closely under a strong light for corrosion from the water. Look for white stuff on the board and contacts. You can use the same solvent to clean the mainboard as the keyboard. Just make sure you get a non-lubricating colvent with a high non-conductence along the lines of 10 to 20 kilovolts that leaves no residue. (lubricating is for tuners and relays and such). Work fast the stuff will evaporate quickly. Also do it over a sink because the stuff can stain. There's a couple of wires by the jack--you may have pulled one off or compressed them with the case The short could be caused by crimping those wires or gunk. Or something (like a register or transistor) could be shorted from the water and could very well fix itself if you leave the unit with no power at all, including pulling all battery, for a few hours > I'll tear it apart again tomorrow and try to get the AC jack working. Then > I'll try the diagnostics and the hard resets. Luck to you.:) > > BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back > at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of > some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts > about that? Umm I only remember the two on the bottom. There might be a third but I don't think it does anything. > > Thank you VERY much for all your suggestions John. I appreciate the help! Sure. I hope she ends up working. The nice thing about modern circuitry is they are very resistant to things like this plus these are so low current so even if the water did cause problems (like short something temporarily) the chances are good she'll recover and be as good as new. Just make sure everything is clean and dry before you put her together, no wires are pulled off or crimped and don't force anything back together--it should all snap into place with a minimum of pressure. I wouldn't worry about it too much--it was just water--good thing it wasn't something sticky like pop, _that_ stuff is really nasty to get out:-) > > Steve > > >another keyboard to see if it works. You also miight try about 5 or 10 hard > resets. This might fix it if you have a stuck node in > >the controller. Which keys aren't working? > > > ________________________________________________________ > NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download.html > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 05:45:42 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Micro Solution CD-ROMs I was reading posts in comp.sys.handhelds and a guy posted saying he had gotten a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card. It wasn't the transdigital card sold by Thaddeus but it was an EPP card. Has anyone tried this with the Transdigital card? I thought a backpack with a soundcard would be nice to listen to music while using the 200LX. Maybe Thaddeus would create a DOS version of their CD (hint, hint) to use with the 200LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:58:38 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: NKIT/Turbo C Help Comments: To: Antonio Queiroz Menezes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying > error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which > includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error : > > "Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S". > > It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or > "matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution. > > Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the > instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that. Make sure you have Turbo C & NKIT directory in your path and copy the LXAPI.H to \TC\INCLUDE. Then edit TCCMAKE.BAT & TCCMAKEF.BAT so the paths are correct. TCCMAKEF.BAT you use for code with floating point calculations and TCCMAKE.BAT for compiling other code. Can't say that this is the only or correct way to get it to work- but it works fine for me. Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:01:30 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Re: NKIT/Turbo C Help Comments: To: Antonio Queiroz Menezes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm trying to learn to program in C for my palmtop and an anoying > error keeps happening when I try to compile a source file which > includes "math.h". Turbo C returns the error : > > "Linker Error: Undefined symbol '_main' in module C0S". > > It happens, for instance, when I try to compile "float.c" of NKIT or > "matherr.c" of the Turbo C distribution. > > Can anyone help me? I must have made some error in the > instalation of my copy of Turbo C 2.0 or something like that. Make sure you have Turbo C & NKIT directory in your path and copy the LXAPI.H to \TC\INCLUDE. Then edit TCCMAKE.BAT & TCCMAKEF.BAT so the paths are correct. TCCMAKEF.BAT you use for code with floating point calculations and TCCMAKE.BAT for compiling other code. Make also sure that you installed TC with small memory model. Can't say that this is the only or correct way to get it to work- but it works fine for me. Regards, Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:11:22 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase Ed Keefe writes: > >> Does anyone know if Ý the 1999 CD-InfoBase ¨ can be read in DOS? > > The 1999 CD InfoBase is still a Windows - oriented product. > > ..ed.ÝPTP¨ Thanks Ed. Do you know why there is no dos version that would run on the 200LX? It would be kind of cool to be able to read about it on it!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:23 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support questions to the address I use here instead of the D&A support address, which is equipped for support. During the last few weeks, I was lurking here again. I noticed that there are less flame wars and I also noticed that I frequently pressed "reply" because I was able to contribute - but never actualy sent a message. Now I decided to try again. But I want to emphasize: This is my PRIVATE email address and I am participating as a private being and not as a D&A representative. I will answer support questions on the list if I have time and feel like doing it, however, I will NOT answer any support questions sent to my email address. Please use support@dasoft.com for that. Thanks! The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money". Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like Thaddeus, SS&S, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform. So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best, they will chase me away from that list again. So please let me contribute! Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: post/lx and PE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor. for ths list i know > that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes. for work, > though, it is necessary. but, the software always asks me if i want to > do this. is there any toggle or default? This cannot be turned off. However, you might want to consider if it really is necessary to quote everything, even in company email. > second, when i installed the software originally, when editing the > message of an email, it would jump right into pe. now i get the > welcoem to d&A screen witht the push any key to continue..... Put NoBanner=1 into the ÝFile¨ section of PE.CFG. > last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me > what i want to do...is there a default that can be set? Put LeaveTabs=1 into the ÝDisplay¨ section of PE.CFG. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:50:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: HP cases Comments: To: Philippe Lewis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Each has their own idea of the perfect case. I have tried several cases. At present I am using a mini portfolio case that I picked up at a computer show for $7.00. It would figure that the latest show has them for $5.00 The case is 13x8.5x2 inches. It has a front flap and extra pockets to hide things. It does not look like a computer case but allows me to carry all the junk I need. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: Philippe Lewis ÝSMTP:p.lewis@USA.NET¨ > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 15:37 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: HP cases > > The case I'm using right now is a PDA zippered Targus case. Looks like a > daytimer -- similar to the PalmTree cases (camouflage for your palmtop: no > one will know there's an organizer in there...) Extremely rugged, lifetime > warranty, need I say more? Price is steep (40-80$), so look for sales. > Just > leave the zip open at the top for sliding in and out. They also have one > that has a cellphone pocket for those who want everything in one place. > I've > got both, and leave them in my two larger targus and north face cases. > This > way, I can just slide the palmtop in there and know it won't get scratched > or eat the dust. (www.targus.com) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:10:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Micro Solution CD-ROMs In-Reply-To: <199903050545.PNR04267@bitstream.net>; from John Musielewicz on Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 05:45:42AM +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Quoting John Musielewicz (a123456@bitstream.net): > I was reading posts in comp.sys.handhelds and a guy posted > saying he had gotten a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to > work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card. I got an email from this guy announcing his success. I will attach it here for everyone to see. I have been saving it thinking that it might make a good addition to palmtop.net if the appeal is large enough. For those that have sent SUPER additions recently, I have them saved up waiting for some spare time to add them in. Thanks in advance! -- Mitch SUPER Team --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com Ý198.81.17.10¨) by wisdom.palmtop.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA23995 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:32:41 -0500 From: Feinmanr@aol.com Received: from Feinmanr@aol.com by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv19.3) id oGSPa04995; Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:35:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4d5ec580.36fd6b28@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 18:35:04 EST To: hal@thaddeus.com, ed@thaddeus.com, mitch@palmtop.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: 200LX & Backpack CD-ROM Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I successfully hooked up a Micro Solutions Backpack Bantam parallel port 24X CD-ROM drive (Model No. 181100) to the HP200LX using Quatech's SPP-100 card and Hiroyuki Sekiya's freeware SPP100.EXE enabler (thanks to Thaddeus and Mitch Hamm for making this available). Quatech's connecting cable supplanted the one supplied with the drive. Although I set the enabler to EPP mode and it worked, it is unclear to me whether EPP is fully functional. Regardless, the installation is flawless. Micro Solutions, in keeping with the cross-platform philosophy of its products, supplies drivers for DOS 3.1 or higher (plus a copy of MSCDEX.EXE), Windows 3.11, and Windows 95/98. They include a utility program and batch file for loading the necessary drivers after system bootup, so there's little need to fuss with AUTOEXEC.BAT AND CONFIG.SYS files. Besides being able to run System Manager, I still had enough free RAM left to run large applications in DOS outside of SysMgr. (This was without any EMS emulation; overall system performance may increase by loading the drivers high.) By the way, I was unable to do this same trick with the Trans Digital card. For some reason, the Micro Solutions driver would not load with Trans Digital's supplied enabler installed. As a test, I installed the program files for the Collins English Dictionary and Thesaurus on the palmtop, leaving the data files on the drive, and immediately set about looking up some of those hard words. What I had feared the most about this setup was a slow response from the CD-ROM drive, however, the Backpack was very perky, and for the next several minutes I smiled like The Joker. I also installed a tiny command line CD audio controller and played a few Beach Boys songs. This time, I laughed like a hyena. What I am evaluating now are several more shareware and freeware CD audio player utilities for DOS, however, it's tough finding a full-featured one that doesn't require EGA or VGA. Leaving aside the small but interesting stuff, by cooking my own CD-ROMs, I can now carry vast databases and archives of information in a compact package weighing less than three pounds! (Micro Solutions provides one of the smallest and lightest AC adapters I have yet seen. I am going to be looking for their optional carrying case next time I go shopping, and if it's as good as the neoprene "ergo gear" case that I recently found for the LX, I'll buy it.) I can also swap programs in the palmtop without practical limitation. Although I do not foresee the Palm Pilot or Windows CE platforms matching the versatility of the palmtop in the handheld market, the shadows from a different direction are beginning to lengthen -- witness Sony's new mini- notebook, which has the first truly touch-typeable keyboard in its class. Still, I believe that this CD-ROM capability, if exploited, will lengthen and invigorate the life of the palmtop platform for several more years. I never imagined that I could still find new ways to enhance this little computer's power and usefulness. I'd let you upgrade it, but I'm afraid to let it out of my hands just yet. -roger- --FL5UXtIhxfXey3p5-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:33:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Keys in WP51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > From: Stephan Goeldi > On the FTP of Corel is a directory with some WordPerfect tools. There you > can find the 'program editor' of WordPerfect. It is an ASCII Editor which is > capable of reading WP Macrofiles. With this editor you can use many more > commands than in WordPerfect direct. The editor should be free downloadable > I think. > -goe- If this is the combined Program Editor/Macro Editor that was part of the WordPerfect Office product, it is well worth it. I use the editor almost every day. The keys are mostly the same as WordPerfect 5.1 and you can edit large files, binary files, and macros for WordPerfect products and up to nine files at a time. I guess I'll have to go browse Corel and see if it has been updated. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:35:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Carson, Jon A." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Carson, Jon A." Subject: Re: Downloading from SUPER Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I am having this problem also. Jon ----------------------------------------------- jacarson@addcoinc.com ___..---'~~~`---..___ .-=========================- _______________/ :.::..-~--..___..---~~~' (___________(_||_)____/ /____/___:..::.:::. / NCC-1701 D \_________/ "Engage" ----------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: David Sargeant Ýmailto:david@HPLX.NET¨ > Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 4:01 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Downloading from SUPER > > > Is it just me, or is everybody having trouble downloading > from SUPER? The > problem seems to be that www.thaddeus.com isn't working... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:31:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Micro Solution CD-ROMs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain << a Micro Solutions backpack CD ROM to work on the 200LX along with a parallel port pcmcia card. It wasn't the transdigital card sold by Thaddeus but it was an EPP card. Has anyone tried this with the Transdigital card? I thought a backpack with a soundcard would be nice to listen to music while using the 200LX. Maybe Thaddeus would create a DOS version of their CD (hint, hint) to use with the 200LX.>> We contacted Trans Digital after the post and the author of the post and Trans Digital engineer are talking. Haven't heard of any results. The other common request for our CD InfoBase is an HTML version. Unfortunately, given the amount of work involved, it isn't a good business proposition. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:38:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase Comments: cc: "Hal Goldstein (Binaries)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Do you know why there is no dos version that would run on the 200LX? Many things on the CD-Infobase are accessible with DOS. E.g. all the share/free ware files, PC In Your Pocket, the Guttenburg collection. The items that rely on the HyperReader software can be exported as text files= which can then be moved to the LX. = Why not all-dos? Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software tha= t rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader. That was true six years ago and = is even more true today. If there were such a hypothetical, hypertext, DOS program, the conversion process would be time consuming and cost prohibitive: best guesstimate-8 months. = .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:36:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: COLINS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Unfortunately, there is not much more we can do to look into it as Collins no longer supports it. (It took many months of negotiating to get permission to reprint the manual and sell it again). My hope is that someone on this list will discover something it there is a way. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:46:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Andreas, I'm glad you will participate here. It is nice to have you back personally and professionally. <> Speaking for Thaddeus, yes and no. It is the enthusiasm for the great platform that causes us to be in this business. However, we are profitable and we will stay in business only as long as we are profitable. I do think it is our responsibility to "educate" our customer base why we price things as we do, since we are all "spoiled" by huge companies with huge volumes keeping pricing low. Those of us supporting the 200LX are in a small volume marketplace. Our goals are to give a good value for what is paid, not to be as inexpensive as possible. Feel free not to respond as I know you didn't want to get into pricing issues. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:00:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Micro Solution CD-ROMs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Good luck getting Trans Digital to produce anything for the TransPC card. Jersey is the guy I have talked to, and while a nice guy and eager to be helpful, I don't believe Trans Digital has the personnel to make additions/changes to the software related to the TransPC card. I think they bought it from someone and are only a product provider, not the actual developer(s) of the product. The reason I called Trans Digital for support, and subsequently the reason for my opinion, is as follows. I use the Iomega Zip drive on both my palmtop and PC. I wanted a driver to load the LPT support in config.sys instead of having no LPT until after I got a command prompt. I think that with a config.sys level driver, I can use the config.sys level support for the Zip drive. After several weeks of "I'll see what I can do, I'm quite busy." I gave up. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal Goldstein ÝSMTP:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ > > We contacted Trans Digital after the post and the author of the post and > Trans Digital engineer are talking. Haven't heard of any results. > > Hal at Thaddeus > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase In-Reply-To: <199904051040_MC2-709C-C91C@compuserve.com> from "Ed Keefe" at Apr 5, 99 10:38:58 am Content-Type: text > Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software that > rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader. That was true six years ago and is > even more true today. If there were such a hypothetical, hypertext, DOS > program, the conversion process would be time consuming and cost > prohibitive: best guesstimate-8 months. My $.02 ... I don't really care for the hypertext program on the CD anyway. What's valuable to me is the information. If you just provided a CD with the bare material - i.e., files in whatever native format they come in, I would be happy. I would be even happier if that native format were something simple, like ASCII. HTML would be okay, yet I understand the conversion is prohibitive.... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:02:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: COLINS In-Reply-To: from "Hal Goldstein" at Apr 5, 99 09:36:56 am Content-Type: text > Unfortunately, there is not much more we can do to look into it as > Collins no longer supports it. (It took many months of negotiating to > get permission to reprint the manual and sell it again). My hope is > that someone on this list will discover something it there is a way. Thanks for your reply. I was hoping that you also had some access to technical information on the program, perhaps access to the source code, and had the capability to look into it further. I see the situation more clearly now... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:03:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain How about a HyperReader for the LX? Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Keefe ÝSMTP:EdwardKeefe@COMPUSERVE.COM¨ > > Extensive searching and testing proved that there was no DOS software that > rivaled the capabilities of HyperReader. > > .ed.ÝPTP¨ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:19:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Marks, David B" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Marks, David B" Subject: Re: Leather Cases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try http://www.targus.com/products/handhelds.htm I have one of their laptop cases and it's pretty sturdy. I haven't tried their handheld cases. If anyone has the CH500, I'd like to know their opinion, 'cause I'm thinking about getting that one. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:37 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will probably get a RTFM - but: I am going home to Phuket, Thailand - from Paiton, Indonesia - in a couple weeks. I will only stay for about a week, but I am really excited because I can use our ultra-fast server over there. It will be a nice change from this excruciatingly slow server in Java. I would like to set up WWW/LX - with Post and HV - to work with the Phuket ISP before we go. In other words, I would like the ability to set up multiple ISP's. Is that possible, and how do I do it? Thank you, Steve S. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:16:22 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: SC now Works! Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net, John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Anyway... LXCIC was somehow the culprit. By experimenting, it seems > I also have a lot of crashes on my new 64 Mb Palmtop with SC - but the ONLY time it happens is when I use modem cards. This happens about every third night when I put the modem in, the system freezes - I don't know if it would help if I waited a while for the system to come back to me, but don't usually have that much patience. This has been happening with either the new MegaHertz Modem, and the old standby EXP Modem/memory card. When I use a Memory Card I have no problems. I haven't loaded LXCIC, but I think I will soon - I like the idea of taking up less RAM. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:15:30 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bbicioglu1@MMM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Old CD Infobase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am looking for an old CD Infobase with a reasonable price? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:55:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Chris Lott: If all you want is the information in ASCII format, you've got it already= on the CD. The CD contains all the PTP ON DISKs. Each ON DISK has a PTPxx.TXT file that contains the text (ASCII) version of the issue. Go for it! = .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:19:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Outlook Mailing List Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Several folks are actively working to make this Outlook synch thing a reality. Since there is some money riding on the completion of an application, it is important that the donors agree on what they want the app to do. I have set up a mailing list just for the discussion of the Synch applicatoin and its capabilities. To subscribe, send an email to outlook-request@palmtop.net with the word subscribe in the message body. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:57:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Help locate duplicate file utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Thanks for the other suggestions. Russell Hemery pointed out DFL, which is a much more complete tool than TWINFIND. The size of the executable reflects that difference too -- 244,784 bytes (98,666 after compressing with DIET) versus roughly 80Kbytes (10,447 after DIET). I like their approach and will likely register this shareware package. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:31:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I agree with you Hal about the difficulties of offering a good price and at the same time being able to stay in business. In the case of the pocket lite, it just seemed a bit high. But my take is always this: good useful equipment is priceless because it saves time and makes my life easier. And in any case, if I don't know what the lowest (warehouse) price is, I don't really care... Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Goldstein To: Sent: Sunday, April 04, 1999 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light > Hi Claud. > > < sold > these for $6 to $8 (and I bought one). What caused the price to go up > so > much?>> > > and Philippe, > > < pure ripoff for something like that.>> > > I will give a truthful but perhaps an unpopular explanation. As > consumers (especially sophisticated ones like those of us on this > mailing list), we are all used to buying computer products from very > efficient warehouse companies who have lots of products with lots of > volume and low profit margins. > > We have sadly seen the demise of ACE, EduCalc and a number of other > 200LX-related businesses. My experience is that the way to stay > profitable with a low volume of sales is to find products of good value > to the customer that can be sold with high margin. > > We had a good year last year and we are holding our own this year. We > have a number of products in which our cost of the product (eg CD > InfoBase, SuperSoftware Carousel, even our rechargeable batteries) is > much less than what we charge. These are, in fact, the same Flexlites > that Mitch sold. I purchased them through Mitch (saving him the hassle > of selling them individually). > > It costs us a lot to create and mail out 50K catalogs, to process > orders, do support, take returns etc. > > From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits > dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price. If > people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be > worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns > without hassling or a restocking fee. Further, we are motivated to > continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a > fair profit. > > > > This business in paying my salary and the salary of a number of others > in our small town. No one is getting rich -- not that that would be a > bad thing, but, we are doing OK. > > Hope that explains things. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:53:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: To: "Marks, David B" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems: if you store the cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings. If you use the little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily slide the palmtop in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the batteries out of the elastics. I also have the CH300 (I got both and more Targus stuff when Egghead Sofware closed...) and I use it when the CH500 is too big for my needs. Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Marks, David B To: Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Leather Cases > Try http://www.targus.com/products/handhelds.htm > > I have one of their laptop cases and it's pretty sturdy. I haven't tried > their handheld cases. If anyone has the CH500, I'd like to know their > opinion, 'cause I'm thinking about getting that one. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:19:51 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Receive but cannot post to HPLX Hi Does anyone have any thoughts on the below problem? ___________forwarded message_____________ Eng. & Industrial Projects writes: > John, > > I just grabbed your post from HPLX list as > it was the first one. > > I've posted a few emails over the three of four > weeks, and have just realises that they are not > getting through (I wondered why no-one was > talking back!) The email address I am using and > have always used is below, is this still current? > is this what you are using? Plain text emails > only being posted (not HTML) > > HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Any help appreciated, > > Regards......Liam > Bunbury, Western Australia > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:50:13 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's Steve Soper writes: > I will probably get a RTFM - but: > What's an RTFM? > Phuket ISP before we go. In other words, I would like the ability to > set up multiple ISP's. Is that possible, and how do I do it? I donno if this is what you need but under setup in WWWSETUP you can just select your ISP and set it up. Where you select Compuserve, IBM, AT&T, etc.. Setup whichever ISPs you need then select it useing the spacebar. Any ISPs you aren't using at the moment will still be saved even if they are not selected. You can just run wwwsetup and reselect whenever you need to change your ISP. I use www/lx 1 but I think 2 is pretty much the same. HTH ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:57:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: How to run Volkov Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:22:04 -0600, Mack Baggette = wrote: > Volkov doesn't run on a speed upgraded machine, but I have created a = patch > for it that is on the Super site. Just do a search from the main page = for > Volkov and it will pull up "Volkov Commander" and "Volkov Commander DS > Patch". Thanks for the info. on the patch Mack, it worked great. Now, I would like to know where to get some viewers for Volkov for viewing: .wk1 ,.zip, arc, lzh, arj , etc. Also has anybody got vcsetup to run? Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:28:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andreas you wrote; > A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of > the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame wars' are. Could you enlighten me? Rian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:28:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable first, thanks for the response.... especially since it is missing a few lines.. > > first, i use wwwwlx/post/lx and pe as my editor. for ths list i know > > that it is sinful and punishable to use overly long quotes. for = work, > > though, it is necessary. but, the software always asks me if i want = to > Which software asks? What does the question look like, > please? i want to quote...i have to for work. but, there are tabs in the messages and pe always asks if i should keep or replace them with spaces. is there a default that can be automatic or do we have to live with this? > > Editor=3Dpe $f $h i know what the $f means, but what does $h? it does work, by the way. great!!!!!! thanks > > TempMsgFile=3Dpost.tmp > > This will pickup the original message and put it in > post.tmp. That file will be opened in $f. $h is for the > original message headers... It'll be a second file PE > opens. Move among open files in PE by using F7=3DNext. > > > last, when replying to emails, pe always encounters tabs and asks me > > what i want to do...is there a default that can be set? > > Do you also have in POST.CFG i think this is related to my first garbles question.... > > Clog=3D0 or Clog=3D1 The latter clogs your process with > lots of questions, confirmations, bla, bla... what exactly is clog? i have to get the latest pe docs, but i just cant remember... thanks for your help, though. dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:29:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: cell and hp email connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote: > I have seen much going on about pda connections to the net via cel > phones.. I am looking for a new cell phone (digital) and was wondering > what people in the states use for this I have a Motorola SC725 digital/analog cel phone and a ApexData (Smart Modular) 33.6 PCMCIA cel-capable modem and use both with WWW/LX Plus for Internet Email and web browsing and acCIS for CompuServe Email and forum message work. Works great! The Smart Modular PCMCIA modem will work with a variety of cel phones, you just need the right cable. I just have Bell Atlantic Mobil cellular service here in New Jersey, but the phone goes into analog modem in order to make a data call. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:28:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > All of things that you listed can be changed by editing your pe.cfg > i take it that this is in the pe docs? i'll get the latest off the web... thanks dave> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:34:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Marks, David B" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Marks, David B" Subject: Re: Leather Cases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems: > if you store the > cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings. > If you use the > little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily > slide the palmtop > in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the > batteries out > of the elastics. I was planning to use the cellphone pocket for the AC adapter. In the picture, it looks kind of narrow. Will the adapter fit? Dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:42:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: NEED HP 200 LX for exam... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE7FB5.8C9F2280" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE7FB5.8C9F2280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............ PLease! :) a+ ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE7FB5.8C9F2280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4=20 mo............
 
PLease!      =20 :)
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE7FB5.8C9F2280-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:42:49 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: HP 200 lx and Internet??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE7FB5.A1E685C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE7FB5.A1E685C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx??? HOW ??? ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE7FB5.A1E685C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is it possible to use internet with = 200=20 lx???
 
HOW ???
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE7FB5.A1E685C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:51:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Flame Wars are non-productive dissertations between two or more persons. Usually a Flame War starts when someone states a non-truth, or a belief that is unsubstantiated. Sometimes a post is deliberately written to cause strife. Parties partaking in a Flame War are usually easy to provoke and as such should be avoided. If you believe a post is inflammatory, unnecessarily reactionary, or you feel yourself angered and feel the urge to reply hastily, then it is probably an attempt to start a Flame War. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Rian Maartens ÝSMTP:maartens@IAFRICA.COM¨ > > I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame > wars' are. Could you enlighten me? > > Rian > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:56:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: HP 200 lx and Internet??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yes it is. If you have a web browser, direct it to http://www.dasoft.com Both the question of possibility and the question of method will be answered by this web link. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: mihlo ÝSMTP:mihlo@CLUB-INTERNET.FR¨ > > Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx??? > > HOW ??? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:04:40 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: NKIT/Turbo C Help Comments: To: Alan Krempler In-Reply-To: <000201be7f9f$63676280$cc01a8c0@alan-p> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks, Alan Regards Antonio > i think you picked the "wrong" sample programs to start with. > > the files you used are sources for libraries. > any "normal" program has a function named "main()" to start the execution > with. the startup code in c0s.obj tries to call this program entry point. > look into the files you compiled - there is no function "main()". > > try this simple classic program: > > --------------- > > #include "stdio.h" > main() > { > printf("hello world!\n"); > } > > ---------------- > > this one HAS a function named main(). if you still get error messages, they > will most likely be different. > every great programmer started out making small steps and big mistakes. > > alan > > --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:07:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Receive but cannot post to HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Send mail to this address: LISTSERV@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Use no subject, and in the body of the message place this: QUERY HPLX-L When you get a reply from the List Server, you can look to see what is set (on not set) effecting your HPLX-L mail. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@bitstream.net¨ > (forwarded for: Liam - Bunbury, Western Australia) > > I've posted a few emails over the three of four > > weeks, and have just realises that they are not > > getting through (I wondered why no-one was > > talking back!) > > > Regards......Liam > > Bunbury, Western Australia > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:11:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Newbie questions answered! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I have noticed alot of New LX users on the HPLX-L, so I thought I would comment that there is an FAQ(Frequently Asked Questions) available from: http://www.hplx.net/faq.html BTW(By The Way): FlameWars: When two or more individules start an argument which degenerates quickly to exchange of insults. RTFM: Read The F***'n Manual Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:39:52 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 200 lx and Internet??? > Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx??? Of course. > > HOW ??? The complete WWW package WWW/LX by D&A Software. Browser, mail .news, ftp, telnet Or LXTCP (mail, news, telnet, ftp) by Rod Whitby coupled with the Arachne web browser. Or Goin' Postal (mail) by Steve Lawson coupled with LXNNTP from LXTCP for news coupled with Arachne (browser) LXTCP and Arachne are free but hard to set up. WWW/LX and Goin' Postal are commercial but are easier to set up. With Arachne you'll need megs for the program and at least a couple megs for a swap file--not for the faint of heart ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:53:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Rich I am very interested in you have that Paradox 3.5 Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:28:07 -0500 Reply-To: dmb10@swbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Thaddeus Business... Comments: To: Hal Goldstein , Hal Goldstein Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 04 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: >>From the consumers point of view we feel there are a number of benefits >dealing with us to offset that we don't try to be the lowest price. If >people buy from us, they know they will get what they order, it will be >worth the cost (eg the product has good value), and we will take returns >without hassling or a restocking fee. Further, we are motivated to >continually find more products for the 200LX as long as we can make a >fair profit. Indeed. I have ordered items from your company, and I must add that I find it satifying to deal with a company that satisfies its customers. Having ordered items from the internet before and never received them, I can say with all honesty that it is worth it to me to pay a little extra if I know I will recieve the product. Overall, I have been quite satisfied in my dealings with your company, and I hope you continue in the 200LX business for quite a long time to come. Regards, David Ball ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:41:19 -0700 Reply-To: docliv@kiva.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Livingston Organization: Livingston Tech Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of > the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support > Welcome back, your help and/or advice is needed here. Terry Livingston ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:51:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bob Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob Subject: Re: Cash Reward to fix my file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have recovered corrupted phone book files several times using a disk editor. Phone book files get corrupted when the @%$*(* HP locks up without closing the phone book first. Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:44:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Looking For Battery Powered Ext. Modem for 95LX Comments: To: k7vqu@FPBYRAM.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a US Robotics 9600 Worldport, try George McCourt at 800-705-0100. He has new ones at a very reasonable price. Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY Mark Weiss wrote: > Hi All > > I am a newbie to the list. I have been using my HP95 since '93. > I have not outgrown it. It still does everything that I need. > > I am looking for a modem which will fit in the cradle next to the > computer. If not I wll use one of the older worlport modems > If I can find one. Pref 9600 at least. > > Thanks > > Mark Weiss > > Mark Weiss Ham Radio Call K7VQU Packet:K7VQU@N6EEG.NCA.CA.USA.NOAM > > Net-Tamer V 1.11 - Test Drive > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 21:55:31 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aguze118 wrote: > > Rich > I am very interested in you have that Paradox 3.5 > Tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml If not I have a full copy of paradox 3.5 Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:23:39 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Newbie questions answered! Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Al, For some reason my postings to HPLX list are not getting through, any ideas? Below is my query reply from the listserv: > QUERY HPLX-L Subscription options for "Liam M. Early" , list HPLX-L: MAIL You are sent individual postings as they are received MIME You prefer to receive messages in MIME format FULLHDR Full (normal) mail headers (formerly "FULLBSMTP") REPRO You receive a copy of your own postings NOACK No acknowledgement of successfully processed postings Subscription date: 26 Jul 1998 The topics you subscribe to are: All Summary of resource utilization ------------------------------- CPU time: 0.003 sec Device I/O: 4 Overhead CPU: 0.003 sec Paging I/O: 0 CPU model: 2003 DASD model: 3380 It has got me puzzled, seemed to stop around the time the server went down 2-3 weeks ago? I think you were sunning yourself in Chicago. Best regards.......Liam PS. I have also sent a copy of this email to the listserv. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:12:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame > wars' are. It is a (cyberspace) metaphor for offensive discussion; angry, excited accusational verbal fight. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:21:54 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ar Subject: Re: HP 200 LX VS HP 360 LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This "flat silver piece of metal" could be the foil that covers the inside surface of the unit. It does not connect to anything as far as I know. I just left it as it was and it was fine. brgds Anand Rao At 11:17 AM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote: >Steve D. writes: >> BTW, the AC jack has a small flat silver piece of metal coming out the back >> at an angle toward the back of the unit. It looks like it is a contact of >> some sort, but I can't see what it's supposed to be contacting. Any thoughts >> about that? > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:22:14 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ar Subject: Re: Email with HP200lx in Shanghai China Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_355623==_.ALT" --=====================_355623==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have had no problems dialing in from many cities in PRC - Beijing, Shanghai and even remote locations like Shenyang and Changchun. I tried the normal IDD and not any calling card. The only locations where I had a problem was Australia, New Zealand and Fiji. I'm told it was something to do with the phone line voltages being incompatible with my PCMCIA modem but did not investigate further. But then that is another story ... brgds Anand Rao At 04:12 PM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote: > > Hi List, > > Can you share your experience if you have success in send/retrieve email with > HP200lx in Shanghai? > > TIA > J H Chin --=====================_355623==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I have had no problems dialing in from many cities in PRC - Beijing, Shanghai and even remote locations like Shenyang and Changchun. I tried the normal IDD and not any calling card.

The only locations where I had a problem was Australia, New Zealand and Fiji. I'm told it was something to do with the phone line voltages being incompatible with my PCMCIA modem but did not investigate further. But then that is another story ...


brgds
Anand Rao

At 04:12 PM 05-04-99 Monday , you wrote:
Hi List,
 
Can you share your experience if you have success in send/retrieve email with HP200lx in Shanghai?
 
TIA
J H Chin

--=====================_355623==_.ALT-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 23:50:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: To: "Marks, David B" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The AC adapter fits very snugly in the cellphone pocket (the cord sticks out, will perhaps fit in the elastic that normally holds a battery). Now if they changed the size of the pocket even slightly... although you could have a leatherworker make one for you to the exact dimensions if needed. Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Marks, David B To: Sent: Monday, April 05, 1999 1:34 PM Subject: Re: Leather Cases > > I have the CH500 and I'm very happy with it. Only problems: > > if you store the > > cellphone in there, it can be a pain to retrieve if it rings. > > If you use the > > little elastics to keep the batteries and want to easily > > slide the palmtop > > in and out from one end, the palmtop will eventually push the > > batteries out > > of the elastics. > > I was planning to use the cellphone pocket for the AC adapter. In the > picture, it looks kind of narrow. Will the adapter fit? > > Dave > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: WWW/LX: Multiple ISP's Comments: To: Steve Soper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, > I will probably get a RTFM - but: Don't mention this word where I can read it! :-) > I would like to set up WWW/LX - with Post and HV - to work with the > Phuket ISP before we go. In other words, I would like the ability to > set up multiple ISP's. Is that possible, and how do I do it? Yes, I use about 8 ISPs now I think... Run WWWSETUP select SETUP then press + the plus button to add a SETUP (which is just an ISP setup)... Enter the info required, and then press F10 to save it. Done. In Post/LX press in the main screen F2 - ADD and follow the prompts on the screen to add an email folder.... Enjoy the island and the speed. If I were you, I'd leave the palmtop back home and just go to Phuket Island and just enjoy life! Screw Email!!! :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 00:29:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andreas Garzotto wrote on Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:04:23 +0100: > A while ago, I was participating in this list, but stopped because of > the flame wars and because members of the list started posting support > questions to the address I use here instead of the D&A support address, > which is equipped for support. Welcome back. D&A Now has 4 people doing support and we can draw on a 5th person if necessary. It is very important to us that your time will be dedicated to improvements, to thinking about new stuff, and if needed, to essential issues in the product. I believe the support organization at D&A is now capable of handling just about anything that anyone can throw at us. I also bring things up into the Beta occasionally, as do the support staff. So plenty of support venues exist. word about the beta Team: That team has been convened since 1996 and has proven absolutely invaluable to the quality of the products and the depth of what we put out. Thanks for coming back in-persona non-obscura. Oh, profitable: Yes, we make profit. Not much but some. The entusiasm we have helps to get past the tough spots. But we have to remain profitable and keep up with expenses, and retain D&a as a viable business. So far, thanks to your help, it has worked. Thank you. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:55:39 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Flame wars - Why, why why? Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am new to the list and was curious what exactly 'flame > > wars' are. > > It is a (cyberspace) metaphor for offensive discussion; angry, excited > accusational verbal fight. hmmm .. I wonder why people do that on this list? Could it be that they are not happily married? Perhaps traumatic childhood or a lousy psychologist? Perhaps utter frustration that their PC won't run as well as their palmtop? Or is the old thing of 'my point of view is the only point of view'? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:03:32 +0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dragos Mos Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dragos Mos Subject: Re: Norton Commander Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" In-Reply-To: <199903242209.QAA06321@ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you are looking for a good Norton Commander that could run properly on a HPLX I can recommend you the NC-clone Dos Navigator 1.42, that is a much better and faster version of NC. I use both of them on a Olivetti Quaderno XT palmtop, but I always prefere the DN for it's extra features. Has also Terminal functions, Phone book, and others fancy features... If you want to try it, check on Altavista for "dos navigator 1.42 download". Good luck! Regards, Dragos Mos- Oradea Romania ' ' dragos@lego.rdsor.ro ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:02:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: SMTP, the Real meaning... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit SMTP the real meaning - Send Mail To People ... There, that makes it easier to remember than Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:35:30 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Obsolete Computer Helpline Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all This site is a bonanza for LX vintage stuff. http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/helpline/helpline.htm Regards Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:19:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Fowler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Fowler Subject: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "unsubscribe" -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As GIMS exercises no editorial control over E-mail messages originating in the organisation the views in this message are therefore not necessarily those of GIMS, its management, or its employees. This E-mail does not legally bind GIMS in any manner whatsoever. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Motorola cd920 cell phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tom Nemeth wrote: > I have a Motorola cd920 GSM cell phone and I was wondering if my cable > connection is the same as yours? My phone has a sort of square shovel > spade connection Those different cel phone cables look very similar and I cannot tell from your description if your's is the same. My cable is for several Motorola cel phones such as the SC725 and Elite and compatables. You have already ordered the Simple 33.6 modem? Then you will have to check with Simple for the list of cables available for it to see if they support your phone. Also, the Mobil Planet web site (www.mplanet.com) lists the cables with the modems. I also found Mobile Planet Tech Support helpful in double checking that my setup would all work together. I don't know if GSM phones are somehow different from analog cel phones in terms of working with data. I think they are. So, you may not even be able to use the Simple 33.6 modem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:21:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Modem to Cell Phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob Meyer wrote: > Is there a way to connect a Motorola Microtac Lite II to any modem without > buying an expensive data cable? Or is there an interface that is necessary In order to use a cel phone with a modem, it has to be either a cellular-capable modem or you need that expensive interface box. There is no short cut. What kind of connector is on the bottom of that phone? Is it the standard large sized Motorola connector like on the flip phones? If yes, then I have (maybe for sale) a Motorola Cellect Pocket modem that will work with that type of cel phone. The modem is a little smaller than then palmtop and runs on a 9 volt battery. I used it for more than a year until I got a different cel phone that had a different kind of connector. There is no other pocket sized modems that I know of with cellular capabilities. I now use a PCMCIA modem with the appropriate cable for my phone. Works great in the palmtop and cost me less than $170. This modem will work with many different phones, you just need the right cable. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:49:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: SMTP, the Real meaning... Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Love it! d8¬) Bill > SMTP the real meaning - > > Send Mail To People ... There, that makes it easier to > remember than Simple Mail Transfer Protocol. :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:38:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: More on SC/LXCIC Problem Content-Type: text Whew!!! That was a lot of work! I finally narrowed my SC and LXCIC conflict down to the following minimal set of configuration files. For the record, I have configured four work areas in SC, one the regular system manager, 2 and 3 the SSC pre-configured work areas, and a fourth plain DOS work area. Eack WA (Work Area) is allocated 570K of memory, and my swap file on C drive is 6992K big. I have consistently gotten my machine to lock up with the below config files (I didn't include the two SSC batch files for WA2&3, as I never invoke them to get this error). What I do is start up hard reset... after WA 1 boots up and gives me the topcard, I press ctrl-4 and go to the DOS 4 work area. From here, the machine usually locks up within a matter of a few seconds. Usually just at the command prompt, though sometimes not until I run a program (the Q editor I used a lot for my testing). But... with the LXCIC command removed, I couldn't get it to lock. A few oddities I've noticed about SC while doing all this testing... (a) Always when the computer is going to lock up, and sometimes under normal circumstances, the DOS WA#4 gets underway with an initial prompt that includes four trailing spaces: e.g., "A:\> " instead of "A:\> ". (b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to a dumb DOSKEY. I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the command history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this function coming from? Built in to SC? (c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS prompt. The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work Area! And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running... (d) Where does the "DOS Work Area ##" prompt come from when you start a WA without any batch file? My normal batch files immediately reset the PROMPT, but this appears to be another internal thing that SC does. I haven't found a way to turn this off or change the default prompt. And.... I've finally gotten the LOAD123 program to work, once I comment out the LXCIC TSR. As someone commented, this is a short program that invokes SYSMGR and automatically starts up Lotus 123. Here are the configuration files. Note the LXCIC entry in HP.BAT - this is the one I comment out to make things work. The only driver I haven't tried taking out is rd32-stuff, because I would have had to re-configure my SC in a fairly significant way, and it was late and I was tired of re-booting! Any expert opinions??? ==== config.sys: device=a:\spd31s.sys shell=d:\dos\command.com /p /e:2048 files=40 buffers=40 lastdrive=j: device=a:\rd32.sys ==== autoexec.bat: @echo off a:\rd32swap.exe c:\sc7\carousel ==== hp.bat: (Invoked by WA#1, the main work area) @echo off prompt $p$g REM c:\bin\lxcic /L 200 ==== dos4.bat: (Invoked by WA#4) @echo off prompt $p$g -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:19:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Send your server requests to the list server. And I believe the correct method is UNSUBSCRIBE HPLX-L And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. > -----Original Message----- > From: John Fowler ÝSMTP:johnf@GIMS.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 6:19 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Unsubscribe > > "unsubscribe" > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > As GIMS exercises no editorial control over E-mail messages originating in > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not necessarily > those of GIMS, its management, or its employees. This E-mail does not > legally bind GIMS in any manner whatsoever. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:30:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Evans - N0HJ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Evans - N0HJ Organization: Titan Software Systems Subject: Re: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Drummond wrote: > And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. > Not if he is British !!!! Gee, anal today, are we??? john > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Fowler ÝSMTP:johnf@GIMS.COM¨ > > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not necessarily -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry, M$ spell checker. I guess I should install the omni-aware.dll in here some day. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Evans - N0HJ ÝSMTP:jaevans@CODENET.NET¨ > > Phil Drummond wrote: > > And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. > > > > Not if he is British !!!! > Gee, anal today, are we??? > john -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Fowler ÝSMTP:johnf@GIMS.COM¨ > > > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not > necessarily > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:39:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Not that I know of. The tabs are NOT coming from PE, but > from the original message. If you can convince your > correspondents to use decent mail programs .... :) got it! now it works after changing pe.cfg > > > > Editor=3Dpe $f $h > > > > > i know what the $f means, but what does $h? it does work, by the = way. > > great!!!!!! thanks > > As I said, the HEADERS of the message being quoted. Just > press F7 to see that part. ahhhhh. got this too! > > Andreas had originally a much worse name for the various > confirmation messages and prompts that some software on > desktops has all over? (Delete. Are you sure? Yes, ReallY? > Yes, Really-really? Yes, You will not regret this and feel > like a dork later? Yes. Ok - press OK to confirm this > choice!) You know what I mean right. We convinced him that > "clog" is a passable name for a commercial program. :) and yes, changed this too. now i feel so much more efficient. i think it was andreas that said it was not possible to remove the message about your email having too much quotation....i see this as a helpful thing but for work, not quoting means more work for the email challenged. oh well. i can live with that. thanks all for helping me with this. i am now 75% computing by hp200 and 100% email. gosh, i love this machine! dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down. I think we will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word. My question is this. Should we? Does anyone on the list regularly use Windows 3 on their palmtop? The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth. However, now it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word available. Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use? Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3 on the Palmtop? Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute and Win 3 documentation other than our own. Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting started as easy as possible. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:45:50 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: More on SC/LXCIC Problem Hi Chris R. Christopher Lott writes: > Whew!!! That was a lot of work! I finally narrowed my SC and Glad to hear you are still working on it. I'm no expert but I'll chuck my suggestions in anyway since I'm not having a problem with lockups. > > ==== config.sys: > device=a:\spd31s.sys I'm not using a shell command and wondered if 2k wasn't a little high for the enviroment since your not setting any varibles? Maybe 512 or 256? > shell=d:\dos\command.com /p /e:2048 > files=40 40 is an aweful lot of buffers. Do you need that many? I use 5 and experience no slowdown. They use quite a bit of ram. > buffers=40 > lastdrive=j: > device=a:\rd32.sys > > ==== autoexec.bat: > @echo off I load the swap tsr in the config.sys file. > a:\rd32swap.exe > c:\sc7\carousel > > ==== hp.bat: (Invoked by WA#1, the main work area) > @echo off > prompt $p$g Maybe try loading lxcic in the autoexec.bat? Thats where I have mine and I don't have any lockups. It only uses about 500 bytes of low ram. > REM c:\bin\lxcic /L > 200 > > ==== dos4.bat: (Invoked by WA#4) > @echo off > prompt $p$g ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:50:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Seems to me that somebody said that Windows 3.0 programming isn't terribly difficult. It might open up a whole new platform for palmtop applications. However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really need a decent pointing device to wo with it. Currently we don't really have much in this department. Which is why I use Windows 2.03 and hardly ever use my Easy Cat touchpad... It's just so much easier when everything can be done with the keyboard. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:58:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote: > Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use? > Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3 > on the Palmtop? I have it loaded and it is stable and works A-OK, but it's really just a novelty for me. although I sometimes use WinFax to send a fax, but that's really just to impress myself. I would be willing to bet that you would sell quite a few copies of it, so I say "go for it." 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:01:12 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Hal Goldstein writes: > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. > Its this kind of effort that will keep this platform going!!! Have you thought about trying to disstribute Wordperfect? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:02:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:50:17 -0700, David Sargeant wrote: > However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really > need a decent pointing device to wo with it. Currently we don't really > have much in this department. Actually..... the older version of NoMouse works quite well and is still available as a commercial product. It's what I use with my little setup. Maybe Hal could sell it also? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:05:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop In-Reply-To: from "David Sargeant" at Apr 6, 99 07:50:17 am Content-Type: text > However, the main disadvantage I see with Windows 3 is that you really > need a decent pointing device to wo with it. I disagree with this statement. I've played with Win 3.0 some, and found that the normal built-in keyboard support in 3.0 was plenty adequate for me. At that point, I think MS was still sincerely trying to support the keyboard-only mode of use. But, I agree that there is a problem if we can't legally get copies of Excel and Word.... Hal: I realize that these negotiations must be slow and difficult, but here's an option to consider. Could you get permission to distribute copies of Word and Excel to people who buy a current version and send you the license (or manual, actual media, or some proof that you and MS can agree upon)?? Effectively, we would have to buy and throw away a current version of the programs in order to get permission to use the older copies. I've heard of some companies that permit this kind of version-swapping, maybe MS would consider it. Just my $0.02 worth. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:06:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Strikes me as a good idea _only_ for its WinCE appeal. In other words, the idea of Windows 3 on a machine the size of a 200lx (1) is cute; (2) has `gee-whiz' appeal; (3) is practically speaking useless; and (4) is likely to distract from useful work. This gives it almost all of the characteristics of the typical WinCE device. Now if you can make it cost a lot, then it will have _all_ of the characteristics of WinCE... Hal Goldstein wrote: > > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. > > It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down. I think we > will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word. > > My question is this. Should we? Does anyone on the list regularly use > Windows 3 on their palmtop? The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that > Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth. However, now > it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word > available. > > Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that people use? > Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3 > on the Palmtop? > > Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute and Win 3 > documentation other than our own. > > Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a > product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting > started as easy as possible. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:10:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop In-Reply-To: <199904061505.KAA30232@ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote: > I disagree with this statement. I've played with Win 3.0 some, and > found that the normal built-in keyboard support in 3.0 was plenty > adequate for me. At that point, I think MS was still sincerely trying > to support the keyboard-only mode of use. Seems to me when I tried it that I wasn't able to draw anything in paint using just the keyboard. But I could be wrong... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:21:16 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus documentation, QFax, etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:55:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop My .02.. I only use Word and Excel on Windows. I don't know of any other useful programs that will run in windows real(? non-386) mode. I think that if it's priced very low you'll sell copies but without Word and Excel it's more of a curiosity than anything else. OTOH, At least it comes with the "applets". Wordpad, terminal and paint may be somewhat useful to some. Doesn't win3 wordpad allow you to save docuemnts in word format? You can then use it to create WYSIWYG documents that you can send to others. In my doings, I find Excel to be the most useful. As a consultant, I fill out timesheets on an Excel sheet and submit it via email. > -----Original Message----- > From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:39 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Windows 3 on palmtop > > > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from > Microsoft to sell > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. > > It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down. I think we > will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word. > > My question is this. Should we? Does anyone on the list regularly use > Windows 3 on their palmtop? The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that > Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth. However, now > it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word > available. > > Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that > people use? > Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3 > on the Palmtop? > > Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute > and Win 3 > documentation other than our own. > > Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a > product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting > started as easy as possible. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:53:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: New I/O Application Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Antonio Queiroz Menezes spotted this and I think it's good enough to announce before we get permission to put it on the SUPER Site: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/OGASA/download/db2csv02.lzh It is a EXM applicatoin that will allow you to import and export from GDB and PDB files with field selection and ordering. The author also has an application called Fax Launcher that looks neat, but I am not sure what it does just yet: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/OGASA/hp200lx.htm I have inquired with Toshiki to see if we can get some English translations and permission to post these goodies. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:58:03 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Drummond wrote: > Flame Wars are non-productive dissertations between two or more persons. > Usually a Flame War starts when someone states a non-truth, or a belief that > is unsubstantiated. Sometimes a post is deliberately written to cause > strife. Parties partaking in a Flame War are usually easy to provoke and as > such should be avoided. If you believe a post is inflammatory, > unnecessarily reactionary, or you feel yourself angered and feel the urge to > reply hastily, then it is probably an attempt to start a Flame War. > > Phil No its not!!!!! (Sorry could'nt resist...reminded me of a Monty Python "discussion" :-))) -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:06:46 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce Francis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Francis Subject: Re: Leather Cases Comments: cc: "F. Kaufman" In-Reply-To: <19990403024454.FXVM289@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 02:44:54 +0000, F. Kaufman wrote: >I think that is the Palmtree leather case. I have it, too, and would like another. Is it #30105 on this page? http://www.harb.net/cgi-bin/cgiblend?blender=po.blend&CompanyShortName=PalmTreeProductsInc. This looks like a good case -- I gather you've really liked it? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:14:49 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: Re: Version of POST/LX preceding 2.2 (16 Jan 1999) Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > What puzzles me is the reference to "was displaying the subjects and the > senders". Do you mean you see some list of senders or are > you refering to the message list view (each message takes > one line)? > Also, how much time do you experience? In my version it > takes a second, no more. > > Actually, with the Ricochet modem, after the program is > done online, it takes almost 60 seconds before the modem > actually breaks the connection, even in Datacomm. So maybe > this is a modem issue? I am really not sure... I ran a test. I wanted to download 500 message headers and here are the results (using 14,400 modem): When I pressed F5, and went online, NEWS/LX was activated and the display showed: action: quickscan in progress status: ... packets It counted about 380 packets (although I ordered -500), which lasted 2'46". Afer that, there was another screen, which didn't exist in the previous version (since it disconnected the line right after finishing up counting packets): action: attempting quickscan status: added header subject: (changing) from: (changing) This part is completely useless, since the programme doesn't disconnect the line, and the staying online is not necessary, because the whole process is the same as it did. Even worse, the second part (attempting quickscan) lasts even longer than the first one (quickscan in progress), i.e. 3'24". So, I'm asking again: if there's anyone who hasn't updated his NEWS/LX V2.1, I would ask him to send it to me. Thanks in advance. P.S. I would like to hear your opinion about NATO aggression, but address it on my private address, since the list policy doesn't allow such contents. Dejan Radic Belgrade Yugoslavia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Minix on the palmtop! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large zip file. There were several issues to overcome such as adding support for the palmtop low power mode, being able to turn the machine on and off, as well as reading the time from the palmtop since it has no CMOS. After accomplishing those things, there still is missing support for PCMCIA cards. I still have some things I want to do with it, but I would like for folks to start using it and checking it out for those of you interested in it. I believe that an Accton Ethernet card can actually be used at some point by using the Japanese point enabler, leaving the machine on, and use the NE2000 support built into MINIX, but there isn't enough memory to load the standard INET support necessary to check it out. Someone may be able to figure out a minimal INET configuration to try it, but I haven't spent enough time looking at that aspect. I am hoping that I can eventually allow the use of EMM to load processes so that the memory limitation can be lifted, but that will take some time. I have changed the TREMM driver to allow for the use of up to 8 physical pages at one time which would give 128k of available RAM per process, which is the maximum for a MINIX process. Now I need to add support in the kernel and the memory manager to detect and utilize EMM to load and run processes from. Someone should be able to make a smaller partition to have MINIX on without the source code, etc. as I haven't done that. It works fine from the C: drive or from flash, so that should be a problem. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:39:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: HPLX-L archives updated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: The Archives have been just been updated. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:40:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I instantly broke into laughter! Thanks, I needed a high point to today. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Bergvill ÝSMTP:martin@MOBILPOST.COM¨ > Phil Drummond wrote: > > > Flame Wars ... > No its not!!!!! > > (Sorry could'nt resist...reminded me of a Monty Python "discussion" :-))) > > -- > Med vennlig hilsen/Regards > > Martin Bergvill > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:45:49 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Beta teams Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote > word about the beta Team: That team has been convened since > 1996 and has proven absolutely invaluable to the quality > of the products and the depth of what we put out. Do you need more people for beta testing and what are the requirements for being a beta team member? Rian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:51:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Minix on the palmtop! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500, Mack Baggette wrote: > I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am > currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large > zip file. I've seen it work and it's pretty cool . Actually, the coolest thing was seeing Mack run Minix on the LX during a ride along with me in the patrol car :) 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:31:36 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you stay connected? I immediately get a low battery message when I try to connect to the www without the AC adaptor plugged in. I note that Thaddeus sells these modems on the basis of low power consumption and yet I have not been able to use battery power to operate them. Am I doing something wrong or could there be a problem with my hardware? I also get a 'card battery low' message when I switch the HP on after plugging in the modem - even when AC adaptor is plugged in. Any advice or help welcome. Rian. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:31:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: PCMCIA cel modem in palmtop works great! Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stan Are you using the HP's battery power to connect? How many minutes do you manage to stay online before getting low battery messages? Rian > I am using a COM2 serial port speed of 38400 for landline and > cellular use. I thought I put a W1 in the init string so that > I could see the true DCE connect speed, but it reported > CONNECT 38400, so I think I didn't do the W1 correctly. I > will let you know when I find out the DCE speed over > cellular. > > Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:51:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Which batteries to you use. Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's typically don't do as well as Energizers. Better are the lithium energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for electronic equipment. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:56:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: > Which batteries to you use. Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's > typically don't do as well as Energizers. Better are the lithium > energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for > electronic equipment. And best of all are rechargeable batteries, which don't last as long, but which are better able to supply a constant voltage and avoid the "battery low" messages. I recommend the Times2 Tech / Thaddeus's "iBat" batteries. Great rechargeables that are similar in color to an iMac. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:02:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok. But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD. Am I confused? Are they doing different things? MICQ is shiped with EPPPD and works allright. But I cant spare the disk space. I already have WWW/LX and then I would like to use it. Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me: NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND BTW the ICQ clone is found at: http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/ /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:42:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx In-Reply-To: <199904062102.XAA24313@d1o13.telia.com> from "Tomas Moberg" at Apr 6, 99 11:02:14 pm Content-Type: text > I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok. > But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD. > Am I confused? I believe so. Not being familiar with ICQ, I checked this web site you gave and found it to be a chat client. WWW/LX is a stand-alone internet package that has its own low-level drivers. I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package.... But certainly you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:58:08 +0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Soper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Soper Subject: Re: HP cases Comments: To: "Souza, Mr Stephen" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Each has their own idea of the perfect case. I have tried several = cases. At I have also tried several. My current favorite is a "Case Logic" Walkman case. It is made from black nylon and has two pockets; both are nicely padded. The rear pocket - the one that is next to the belt loop - easily, and securely holds a Palmtop and an extra pair of batteries. The front pocket - designed to hold four cassettes - can hold a charger and various cables; or, as in my case, papers, pens and a small booklet. It comes with a small nylon belt with quick disconnecting buckle. The price was about $5 in Bangkok. Steve Soper ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:55:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leslie Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leslie Cohn Subject: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 2MB HP200LX. My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing. It takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster than batteries.) I use the Note field extensively. I use the "Category" field. I have several subsets but dont use them. Questions: 1. Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of purchasing a "double speed" unit? 2. Will deleting the category field increase the speed of saving? 3. Any _other_ suggestions? Les ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:48:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leo Shepherd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Shepherd Subject: BATTERY CHARGER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many are using the 200lx itself and software to charge NiMh batteries. Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to be the best bang for the buck? If so, I would appreciate the who, what, where, etc (not forgetting the about how much) as a response. Thx, Leo P.S. Congrats Al, on UCONN's recent basketball championship. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:18:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: BATTERY CHARGER Comments: To: Leo Shepherd In-Reply-To: <9904069234.AA923435853@faa.gov>; from Leo Shepherd on Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 05:48:28PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Many are using the 200lx itself and software to charge NiMh batteries. > Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to > be the best bang for the buck? If so, I would appreciate the who, > what, where, etc (not forgetting the about how much) as a response. I have found the Radio Shack 23-405 1 hr charger to be excellent. Though I don't use rechargables in my HP currently, the Hi-Cap Radio Shack NiMH AAs and the 23-405 help curb the power appetite of my Kodak DC-210 digicam. The charger will do both NiCad and NiMH in AA, AAA and 9V. It costs about $25 from what I remember. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:27:45 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: tb : NEED HP 200 LX for exam... 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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BE808D.74DC6EE0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:28:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: BATTERY CHARGER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't use NiMH cells in my palmtop, but I do use them. The charger I like is from Radio Shack and will charge NiCad and NiMH cells. Yea, I know but, I can't recall the part number, or the price. The only warning I have when using this charger is that you should remove the cover from the cell bay and provide fan-driven air flow over the NiMH cells. It is very important to keep NiMH cells below 100 deg. "F". Ok, the exact temperature and reason for why is just not in my brain. I do this and that's that. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Leo Shepherd ÝSMTP:Leo.Shepherd@FAA.GOV¨ > > Is there also a separate charger unit that list members have found to > be the best bang for the buck? > > Leo > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:35:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain One. - Break the file up. Two. - Try holding the shift key when waiting for it to finish saving. three. - Put the note fields into files and a filename in the note field. Then write a macro to open the file from the filename in the note field of the display record. four. - Sort out all the cute chick's records and archive them. Then send the archive file to me. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Cohn ÝSMTP:lcohn@IX.NETCOM.COM¨ > > I have a 2MB HP200LX. My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing. It > takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster > than batteries.) > I use the Note field extensively. I use the "Category" field. I have > several subsets but dont use them. > > Questions: > 1. Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of > purchasing a "double speed" unit? > 2. Will deleting the category field increase the speed of saving? > 3. Any _other_ suggestions? > > Les > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:45:29 +0000 Reply-To: ted@nicar.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ted Peterson Organization: IRE/NICAR Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Micrograhx 2.x and Micrografx Designer 3.0 will work on Windows 3.0 in real mode, with CGA, with expanded memory, and I'm sure there is other useful software available. My copy of Windows 3.0 came with a 146 page book called "Windows Shopping", listing all the Win 3.0 software available at the time. I've found a few places on the net that sells older software, and eBay is great also. I recently saw Pagemaker 3.0 being sold on eBay (which works with Win 3.0, but not sure if in real mode). I just bought Power Point 2.0 from a site. It works with Win 3.0 (I'm not sure if in real mode), but the instructions say it needs at least an EGA screen. I have yet to test this however. Does anybody know if Power Point 2.0 will work with CGA and in real mode? --Ted On 6 Apr 99 11:55, Ed Padin wrote: From: Ed Padin > My .02.. I only use Word and Excel on Windows. I don't know of any > other useful programs that will run in windows real(? non-386) mode. > I think that if it's priced very low you'll sell copies but without > Word and Excel it's more of a curiosity than anything else. > > OTOH, At least it comes with the "applets". Wordpad, terminal and > paint may be somewhat useful to some. Doesn't win3 wordpad allow you > to save docuemnts in word format? You can then use it to create > WYSIWYG documents that you can send to others. > > In my doings, I find Excel to be the most useful. As a consultant, I > fill out timesheets on an Excel sheet and submit it via email. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:39 AM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Windows 3 on palmtop > > > > > > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from > > Microsoft to sell > > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. > > > > It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down. I think we > > will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word. > > > > My question is this. Should we? Does anyone on the list regularly use > > Windows 3 on their palmtop? The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that > > Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth. However, now > > it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word > > available. > > > > Are there other Win 3 freeware/shareware apps and games that > > people use? > > Should we make it available for the novelty of it? How stable is Win 3 > > on the Palmtop? > > > > Another problem is that we likely will not be able distribute > > and Win 3 > > documentation other than our own. > > > > Your feedback will help determine whether we should offer it as a > > product. If we did, we would try to make installation and getting > > started as easy as possible. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Peterson | IRE/NICAR Webmaster | http://www.ire.org (573) 882-2042 | http://www.nicar.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- "The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but plunges him more deeply into them." --Antoine De Saint-Exupery" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:45:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Coles Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Coles Subject: Newton for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit setup card not operational. Literally as new, with books $150 Please email direct ONLY. Steven C ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:52:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Minix update! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is now available for download from minix.hplx.net as minix.zip Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:11:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: post/lx and PE Comments: To: 74737.221@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, > thanks all for helping me with this. i am now 75% computing > by hp200 and 100% email. gosh, i love this machine! Hey, it is an obsolete and dead machine! Did you notice? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:11:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Beta teams Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rian, > Do you need more people for beta testing and what are the > requirements for being a beta team member? Thank you for the offer. We will contact you if there is a need for more testers. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:11:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Micro Solution CD-ROMs Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Phil, > Good luck getting Trans Digital to produce anything for the TransPC card. > Jersey is the guy I have talked to, and while a nice guy and eager to > be helpful, I don't believe Trans Digital has the personnel to make > additions/changes to the software related to the TransPC card. I think they > bought it from someone and are only a product provider, not the actual > developer(s) of the product. I met Jerzy and I think he is the engineering behind the card. As to whether they can and want to produce more and other stuff, I have no idea. > use the config.sys level support for the Zip drive. After several weeks of > "I'll see what I can do, I'm quite busy." I gave up. I know they are a small vendor, and I know they have some large stuff going on with large customers, so it is very possible they are up to their ears in alligators! :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 16:44:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@STRATO.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D D V Subject: Re: 1999 CD InfoBase On 04-05 10:38am, you wrote > >> Do you know why there is no dos version that would run on the 200LX? > > Many things on the CD-Infobase are accessible with DOS. E.g. all the > share/free ware files, PC In Your Pocket, the Guttenburg collection. The > items that rely on the HyperReader software can be exported as text files > which can then be moved to the LX. > How can the exporting to text be done? Just wondering. Domingo Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.24) EVALUATION ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Pigford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Pigford Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other providers = of products and services for the HP200LX. Now in my 50's, I have come to fully appreciate value over price. I learned the hard way. I learned that there were always better, cheaper, slicker, neater applications from people more willing to sell "promise" over the hard work of value delivery= . When the technology underpinnings shifted, these were the first people to abandon an "old" platform and leave their customers to fend for themselves= . These were the "flash & dash" people. With the HP200/100/95 palmtop computers, we enjoy a fine machines which = are well suited to a wide range of important tasks. But we all know that the current darling of the palmtop world is WinCE, so the flash and dash people have moved there .... thankfully. We HP200/100/95 users hold a rare jewel in computing technology: a long living and supported platform with good and smart minds still caring to = make it better. This is a relationship to be CHERISHED and celebrated as long as possible. Much more valuable than the previous posts about price savings are the = needs for vibrance and enthusiasm in the community of HP200/100/95 customers = and suppliers. To those who complain about the margins needed to sustain suppliers of HP200/100/95 products and services, try to "walk a mile in their shoes". Write your own code, do your own product compatibility research, open up your own customer support line. See how much net profit YOU make before you dare accuse one of our long serving suppliers of price gouging| Just be thankful we have talented people who care to devote their energy to us users. Time is life's ultimate $luxury$. We all start life endowed with a "fortune of time". Great wealth cannot buy more, and time = can only be spent. Please be glad these people spend some of their "fortunes"= on us. Bob Pigford > The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of > "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money". > Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support > the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like > Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform. > So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best, > they will chase me away from that list again. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:50:39 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook Comments: To: Leslie Cohn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I have a 2MB HP200LX. >Questions: >1. Is there anything I can do to "speed up" the file saving (short of >purchasing a "double speed" unit? Hi Les & List Are you using Turbocpu? It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz to about 6.5 Mhz. There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but the screen flickers. I believe this is available on SUPER as Turbo.zip There is also fast DB you might try. 45 secs seems AWFULLY long. Are you saving to Flash card or C:? Regards Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:12:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Tomas Moberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tomas, > Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me: > NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND They do not know how to talk to WWW.EXE. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:12:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris, > > I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok. > > But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD. > > Am I confused? > > I believe so. Not being familiar with ICQ, I checked this web > site you gave and found it to be a chat client. WWW/LX is a > stand-alone internet package that has its own low-level drivers. > I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package.... But certainly > you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup. Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We use our own protocol to "talk" between WWW.EXE server and WWW/LX clients. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:58:50 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >From: phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM (Phil Drummond) >And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. I believe it is correct for UK English (vs. US English). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:00:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Russell Hemery To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook >>I have a 2MB HP200LX. > Are you using Turbocpu? > >It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz >to about 6.5 Mhz. There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but >the screen flickers. Am i missing something here? I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at 7.14mhz and the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz. Would this app be of help on a 100/200lx system? Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leslie Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leslie Cohn Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not using any Turbo software > >I believe this is available on SUPER as Turbo.zip > >Are you saving to Flash card or C:? Saving to a Flash Card. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:02:28 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vempire wrote: > > PS: But it really was AMAZING seeing Windows 3.0 booting up with all the > tiny icons, the program manager,... :) I seem to install everything I can get my hands on just to see if I can get it running on my Hp 200 lx...I got Windows 3.0 running too. Just for the hell of it...can not use it for much..just for showing off I guess... -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8500 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:18:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx In-Reply-To: <199904062312.QAA06259@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote: > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL application sure would be slick! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:30:02 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook Comments: To: Alchemist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Am i missing something here? I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at >7.14mhz and >the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz. Would >this app >be of help on a 100/200lx system? Hi Dan & list The turbo software will not run on a DS LX. I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I have compares to an AT. FYI The speed test software I am using is Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986. Speeds reported Vanilla 2MB on AC Running like an AT @4.3Mhz =2.4x Performance Relative to a 4.77 XT Turbocpu installed @6.5Mhz =3.7x Maxcpu takes it to around 7.5 My DS 200lx tests at 8.7 =5.2x a normal XT @4.77 I trust this is of interest Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:14:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean Hoger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean Hoger Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Are you saving to Flash card or C:? >Saving to a Flash Card. I have a PNY 8 MB Flash card, and storing my Phonebook database on it is painfully slow. I force myself to keep enough room on C: to store it there. Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:31:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: HP cases In-Reply-To: <3006E27F5F6BD2119ABF00A0C91EA95C010A55D2@cnslsvr4.exchg.cn sl.spear.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought I'd contribute to the HP case discussion. I wanted a case to help protect my HP200LX from crushing. For several years I used a soft leather zippered case from EduCalc which I placed inside a hard Rubbermade serving container, 1.5 pint size, #3865. Recently I switched to a rigid steel clamshell-type CD case (made by cdProjects, believe it's model SCR22, phone 800-676-8634). I made minor modifications (removed inside plastic and fasteners, siliconed foam padding). Now I could accidently step on it and it would be protected! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:38:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Old WordPerfect Stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit at ftp://ftp.corel.com/pub/WordPerfect/old_wp_products/ lots of databases for DataPerfect, etc. Pretty cool. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:49:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Flexlite Pocket Reading Light Comments: To: hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Hal, for your reply. I appreciate the honest and straightforward way in which you answered, and that you didn't take anything personally or get defensive. I understand and, as soon as my gadget budget improves, I'll be calling you! Long live Thaddeus Computing! Regards, Richard Smith Hal Goldstein wrote: > < pricing > strategy)? > > Richard Smith>> > > Richard, I did reply on this thread. Hope your gadget budget > increases. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:05:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU OK, I'm not sure what a fair price would be. What sounds fair to you? Where are you located? (I am in Ohio) How do you want to handle shipping? (the whole package probably weighs 6 lbs.) BTW, I also have a complete copy of Lotus Symphony if that might interest you as well. Let me know how you want to proceed. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:53 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: More on SC/LXCIC Problem Comments: cc: rclott@ro.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > WA 1 boots up and gives me the topcard, I press ctrl-4 and go to the = DOS > 4 work area. From here, the machine usually locks up within a matter > of a few seconds. Usually just at the command prompt, though sometimes > not until I run a program (the Q editor I used a lot for my testing). > But... with the LXCIC command removed, I couldn't get it to lock. I could verify this. Same happens on my machine if I use your setup. However it only happens, if you load LXCIC prior to Sysmgr in the Sysmgr WA. It does not happen, if you load LXCIC in any other WA and indeed it does not happen, if you load LXCIC prior to SC in your autoexec.bat. It also does not happen if you don't use SC and load LXCIC before you start Sysmgr. What puzzles me most, is that with your setup, the machine locks after switching to the DOS WA, which has not LXCIC loaded, but works ok in the Sysmgr WA. From my understanding, the DOS WA should not be affected by any TSRs exclusively loaded in other WAs. Summary: There is a conflict if you load in this order: CAROUSEL LXCIC 200 I have no idea, what goes wrong, but as I pointed out before, you can bypass this problem by putting LXCIC in your autoexec.bat or in another WA. > (b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to = a > dumb DOSKEY. I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the = command > history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this = function > coming from? Built in to SC? yes, it's built in, but not as powerful as DOSKEY > (c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS = prompt. > The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work = Area! > And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running... why do you want to kill a WA which has nothing running except COMMAND.COM? Killing COMMAND.COM would leave the WA completely unusable. > (d) Where does the "DOS Work Area ##" prompt come from when you start a = WA > without any batch file? My normal batch files immediately reset the = PROMPT, > but this appears to be another internal thing that SC does. I haven't = found > a way to turn this off or change the default prompt. It comes from your SC WA setup. I don't think you can remove it. It is not the prompt, but one line ahead of the prompt. I personally find it very useful, because I always know in which WA I am. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:09:40 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP 200 lx and Internet??? Comments: To: mihlo MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > Is it possible to use internet with 200 lx??? Sure. It is possible. The best solution for that I think is D&A's 'WWW/LX'. I don't know what exactly you want to do. If you _only_ want to make your email you may have a look on Steve Lawson's 'Goin' Postal'. If you want to browse through the web, read newsgroups _and_ do your email with the palmtop, 'WWW/LX' is the better choice. (that's MY opinion! Others may have another!). There are also other programs like 'Nettamer', 'LXtCP' end maybe more.. (Only to have mentioned them!). GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:33:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: sponsor@ftel.net To: HPLX Mailing List ; Alchemist Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 2:17 AM Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook >Dan, >Your alergies are affecting someone else! :) ... I hope not, I wouldnt wish this on anyone. Im up now as I can't sleep. Dan driden@stlnet.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:15:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and > > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not > > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We > > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a > PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL > application sure would be slick! I am sure this will look familiar - :) ... It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :) I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:15:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook Comments: To: Alchemist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dan, > >It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz > >to about 6.5 Mhz. There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but > >the screen flickers. > > Am i missing something here? I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at > 7.14mhz and > the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching 16mhz. Would > this app > be of help on a 100/200lx system? Your alergies are affecting someone else! :) ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > But certainly > you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup. Actually, you can run any WWW/LX program with EPPD: just configure WWW/LX to use Ethernet. It will then use the packed driver interface that EPPPD provides. It just makes no sense because all that is in EPPPD is already implemented in WWW/LX, so you would just "outsource" the PPP code and the dialing stuff. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a > PAL application for use on the LX. Apart from being nice, would it be useful? I highly doubt that anybody would want to pay for a chat client, so somebody would have to write it as freeware. I am not interested in a chat client at all (my opinion: there are better ways to waste my time) so somebody else would have to implement it. If there is anybody who wants to do it: I gladly provide help and the API specs. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Running MICQ with WWW/LX connected gives me: > NO PACKET DRIVER FOUND That program seems to require a packed driver interface (the driver used for Ethernet and other cards). WWW/LX implementes a complete TCP/IP stack and provides an application interface at a higher level. But that interface is not supported by your program. Unfortunately, unlike on other platforms, there is no standard API (application program interface) for TCP/IP on DOS. Therefore, applications are not interchangable. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Email with HP200lx in Shanghai China MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > There are NO ISP's in Shanghai that will work with the > HP200/LX. > > There are, of course, ISP's, but only for full desktops What is the difference of an ISP "for desktops" and an ISP "for palmtops"? I fail to understand. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:48:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: FLUFF Bad spelers of the wurld unight! (was Unsubscribe) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. >> >Not if he is British !!!! > >Gee, anal today, are we??? > >john > >> > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Fowler ÝSMTP:johnfIMS.COM¨ > >> > the organisation the views in this message are therefore not necessarily No, it is spelled wrong (but it would be correct in Danish): = "organization" is right in both countries. Jorgen (Dane living in the UK) = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:36:25 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Fluffy Minix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee, the Jefferson County Sheriffs are pretty harsh - arresting Mack just for running Minix on his LX. Now if it had been WinCE we would understand... br Jez >> I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am >> currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large >> zip file. > I've seen it work and it's pretty cool . Actually, the coolest thing was > seeing Mack run Minix on the LX during a ride along with me in the patrol > car :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:54:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eben Rubin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eben Rubin Subject: memory module MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It plugs in with no soldering right on to the mainboard, if your mainboard has the socket. (Many do, I think particularly the newer ones, and I believe you can tell without opening the machine by checking the serial #. For those with boards that don't have the socket, it's available from several shops who do HPLX work, and can be soldered in.) The price is $75. By the way, the reason the module is extra and unused is that my machine didn't have the socket. I sent it to Mack to have the socket installed (he did a very neat job), and because of a mixup, I wound up buying one of his memory modules. Eben ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:46:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree. While running Windoze on the palmtop does have a substantial gee-whiz / wow factor, I don't see how it could really be useful on the palmtop; given issues of disk space, RAM, speed, pointing devices, functionality, etc. Although I've done it, once, I don't think I'd bother with it again. HP and many of the other developers that have since contributed to the palmtop have done such a good job with it that running Win 3.1 would only be a *giant* step down. It's do-able on the desktop, but a pain in the palm. Richard Vempire wrote: > So, to come to the point, I think it is fun, amazing, interesting and pretty > useless to have Windows 3.0 installed, since most Windows programs won't run > anyway (no memory, no disk drive, no mouse, only CGA, no sound, ...). > > Best regards, > Vitor > > PS: But it really was AMAZING seeing Windows 3.0 booting up with all the > tiny icons, the program manager,... :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:35:01 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx > > I am running a ICQ clone on my hp and that is aok. > > But I would like to use WWW/LX instead of EPPPD. > > I don't remember seeing a WWW/LX chat package.... But certainly > you won't be able to run any WWW/LX program with the EPPPD setup. Or vice-versa. EPPPD (which is used by LXTCP, Goin' Postal, and other WatTCP utilities, is a standard packet driver (conforming to the specification at http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html). WWW/LX uses a proprietary interface between the WWW.EXE driver and the applications that use it. Obviously D&A can't release that specification, as it is part of their commercial intellectual property. I don't know of any way to have EPPD and WWW/LX operating at the same time. If anyone knows differently, please enlighten us :-) -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:00:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In case anybody is curious: WordPerfect 5.1 is Y2K compliant, with minor issues (See the Web site). It seems to be able to handle dates up to about 2079. I think that this attests to the quality and value that WordPerfect is/was, unlike that 'other major software company' that even releases *major operating system* in *1995* that isn't Y2K compliant! Hal: It would be great if you could get Corel to let you sell WordPerfect 4.2/5.x, LetterPerfect, Works, etc. I fully support that idea! Dave Sargeant: I still know some WPCorp programmers, I'll see if I can find out if there's a way to re-map the keyboard. I am not associated with WordPerfect or Corel Corporation (anymore), just a very happy and satisfied user/customer/former employee. Regards, ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:48:37 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: tb : NEED HP 200 LX for exam... Comments: To: mihlo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mihlo wrote: > > Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............ > > PLease! :) > > a+ > I HAVE A 4-5MB HP200LX WILL SELL GET BACK TO ME SOON AS YOU CAN. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:40:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Fluffy Minix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:36:25 +0200, Jez Cunningham wrote: > Gee, the Jefferson County Sheriffs are pretty harsh I thought everyone knew that Mack liked handcuffs ?!? If had been using CE, we would have had to taken out back and used our rubber hoses one him. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:40:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: More on SC/LXCIC Problem In-Reply-To: from "Stefan Peichl" at Apr 7, 99 01:06:53 pm Content-Type: text > I could verify this. Same happens on my machine if I use your > setup. However it only happens, if you load LXCIC prior to > Sysmgr in the Sysmgr WA. It does not happen, if you load LXCIC > in any other WA and indeed it does not happen, if you load > LXCIC prior to SC in your autoexec.bat. That's great! I'm not going crazy!!! Just my luck that the one oddball configuration that causes a lock-up is the one I happened to try out! Anyway, now that you've confirmed this, I'll accept it as a known bug and re-arrange my setup accordingly. If you come up with a possible solution, or just plain understanding of the problem, please tell me. > > (b) SC seems to invoke some sort of minimal command history, similar to a > > dumb DOSKEY. I noticed that the UP/DOWN arrows scroll through the command > > history, even though I didn't load any such TSRs.... where is this function > > coming from? Built in to SC? > > yes, it's built in, but not as powerful as DOSKEY Can this be disabled? Or is there any harm in loading also DOSKEY or a similar program? I use CMDEDIT, and so far haven't seen any conflicts. > > (c) I can't seem to kill a work area that is just running at the DOS prompt. > > The SCMENU program reports that no programs are running in the Work Area! > > And yet I know that COMMAND.COM is running... > > why do you want to kill a WA which has nothing running > except COMMAND.COM? Killing COMMAND.COM would leave the WA > completely unusable. That's the point of killing a WA. For example, if I want to change the startup batch file (DOS4.BAT in my previous example) and re-start the work area, there has to be some way to kill it. Right now, the only way I could accomplish this is to re-boot the machine. I thought the purpose of the Kill WA function was just this. But anyway, I can't seem to get it to work, at least not with command.com. Thanks for your assitance with my problem. I was beginning to think that something was wrong with my machine... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:42:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Melville Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Melville Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Apr 1999 to 6 Apr 1999 - Special issue In-Reply-To: <199904062152.QAA22670@ns3.tstt.net.tt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hal, Your efforts in attempting to redistribute win3.0 have not gone unnoticed and demonstrate your continued committment to the development of the lx platform as a powerful, portable computing tool. Please allow me to share my experiences with you... About a year ago i did quite some searching for useful apps (shareware and freeware) capable of running in real mode under win3.0 and came up empty i'm afraid - even had a small but capable group from hplx-l involved in this project. The apps we found all required standard or enhanced mode windows, neither being capable on the 100/200lx. Although win30 runs acceptably well on a speed-upgraded machine with a fast disk (at least IMO) and a generous helping of EMS for good measure, the only real reason i kept it was for excel 2.1. Even the early version of word that runs in real mode (1.x) is slow and didn't prove of very much use to me especially since i had suspected that printing would be a problem (and the print preview was very sloooow and tedious to pan around in). Another compelling reason for the o/s was the thought of using a full-blown fax program like winfax but even the early version i found was nothing short of frustrating since 'printing' to the winfax driver was *the* major stumbling block. Using win30 without excel or word would leave you practically with only the bundled s/ware like 'write', 'terminal' (i did use this successfully) and others like 'calculator' etc. all of which are perhaps better off relegated by the lx's built in apps.... Regards, Ian C. Melville _______________________________________________________ FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES Trinidad, West Indies. http://frontlines.hypermart.net CORP@frontlines.hypermart.net > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:38:58 -0500 > From: Hal Goldstein > Subject: Windows 3 on palmtop > > After almost 6 months of trying to get permission from Microsoft to sell > Windows 3, Excel, and Word, we have made some progress -- sort of. > > It seems that Excel and Word are what slowed things down. I think we > will be able to sell Windows 3 for the Palmtop, but not Excel or Word. > > My question is this. Should we? Does anyone on the list regularly use > Windows 3 on their palmtop? The reason why we wanted Win 3 was that > Excel and Word users could exchange data back and forth. However, now > it seems we can't legally make Win 3 versions of Excel and Word > available. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:53:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain A solution might be to use a web page, set up as a chat "client". Then you could open that URL with WWW/LX and chat via the page. If I figure out how to do this myself, I'll post something about it. Phil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:11:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I agree. However, the challenge would be to get anyone's attention. The volume of sales we could provide would not make it worth their time. The only way would be to find someone sympathetic and enthusiastic about keeping those products alive. I've heard Corel is not doing well, so that would add to the challenge. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:21:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > A solution might be to use a web page, set up as a chat "client". Then you > could open that URL with WWW/LX and chat via the page. If I figure out how > to do this myself, I'll post something about it. There once was a palmtop meeting in L.A. and at the same (real) time, there was a meeting in Bern, Switzerland. Gilles Kohl set up a Web page for chatting and we could chat with each other (wirelessly through GSM on the Swiss side). Was very funny! Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:21:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > EPPPD (which is used by LXTCP, Goin' Postal, and other WatTCP > utilities, is a standard packet driver (conforming to the specification > at http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html). WWW/LX uses a > proprietary interface between the WWW.EXE driver and the applications > that use it. This is not fully correct. WWW/LX also uses the specs at http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html if it wants to talk to a packet driver, e.g. for an Ethernet card. But a packet driver does not support IP nor TCP nor UDP nor ICMP nor... A packet driver just supports the low level of talking to a packet oriented hardware. Thus, when using a packet driver, all clients must have a TCP/IP implementation *within* them. When using WWW/LX, the TCP/IP implementation is within WWW.EXE and the clients talk with it using a higher level view (they don't need to know about TCP/IP which is underneath). This is similar to the socket interface in some UNIXes or WinSock (as far as I know). But while sockets in UNIX have a defined interface, there is no such thing under DOS and therefore there was no standard that WWW/LX could use. We had to define our own API therefore. > Obviously D&A can't release that specification, as it is > part of their commercial intellectual property. Actually, we release it to people who tell us what they want to do with it (so that they don't compete with our products and so that we are informed about who uses it (support issues!)). If you want to develop an IRC client for WWW/LX, we gladly provide you with the API specs. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:45:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rian, What kind of batteries are in the palmtop and at what voltage when to try = to use the 14.4 card modem? Alks need to be nearly new and aren't as = good as hi capacity Ni Cads or Nimh. Lithiums work good too. All = batteries need to be fresh or newly recharged to take the power hit. = =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:45:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: Bob Pigford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other providers > of > products and services for the HP200LX. Now in my 50's, I have come > to fully appreciate value over price. I learned the hard way. I = learned > that there were always better, cheaper, slicker, neater applications = from > people more willing to sell "promise" over the hard work of value = delivery > . > When the technology underpinnings shifted, these were the first people = to > abandon an "old" platform and leave their customers to fend for themselv= es > . > These were the "flash & dash" people. > > With the HP200/100/95 palmtop computers, we enjoy a fine machines which > are > well suited to a wide range of important tasks. But we all know that = the > current darling of the palmtop world is WinCE, so the flash and dash > people have moved there .... thankfully. > > We HP200/100/95 users hold a rare jewel in computing technology: a long > living and supported platform with good and smart minds still caring to > make > it better. This is a relationship to be CHERISHED and celebrated as = long > as possible. > > Much more valuable than the previous posts about price savings are the > needs > for vibrance and enthusiasm in the community of HP200/100/95 customers > and > suppliers. > > To those who complain about the margins needed to sustain suppliers of > HP200/100/95 products and services, try to "walk a mile in their > shoes". Write your own code, do your own product compatibility research= , > open up your own customer support line. See how much net profit YOU = make > before you dare accuse one of our long serving suppliers of price = gouging| > > Just be thankful we have talented people who care to devote their > energy to us users. Time is life's ultimate $luxury$. We all start = life > endowed with a "fortune of time". Great wealth cannot buy more, and = time > can > only be spent. Please be glad these people spend some of their "fortune= s" > > on us. > > Bob Pigford Hear hear!! You hit the nail on the head! I usually try to keep quoting = to a minimum, but in this case it all needs to be said again. My feelings= exactly! Thanks. =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:06:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: FLUFF: Focus Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Last night I attended a focus group on palmtop/PDA/wireless connectivity. At their request, I brought my devices with me. There wound up being 10 people in our little group. Unfortunately, I was the only one with a 200LX. Fortunately, there was no one with a WinCE device (I would have been required to "thrash" them otherwise... ). There was one fellow with an old Zaurus, and everyone else used Palm IIIs or Palm Vs. Interesting things: 1. I was the last one to describe what I did with the palmtop. Most of the people said they managed contacts, appts, and got email. I said those things, but then added stuff like controlling servers remotely, faxing, writing spreadsheets and graphing the results, solving for variables in HPCALC, interfacing it with my LAN at home to get email via ISDN... and more. All the Palm guys just sat there with their mouths open. I thought the Zaurus guy was gonna slide under the table. 2. Each of us was asked to describe our "dream machine". Surprising enough to me, I wound up describing a 64MB 200LX. The only addition I can't obtain today is an IR link between the palmtop and my cellphone (Andreas, I envy your cableless setup!). 3. Even more surprising, all of the PalmPeople(tm) said that their preferred method of entry would be a keyboard. They wound up describing devices similar to the 200LX, except they wanted a full GUI. 4. WinCE was mentioned, and a majority of people had tried a WinCE appliance. All of them (including myself!) had said that no matter how cool the device, if it ran WinCE, we wouldn't buy it. 5. Last but definitely not least, there was a fellow there who was so enamored with the 200LX he stopped me on the way out the door and grilled me for over a half hour on the machine. He wanted to know where he could get one. I gave him Thaddeus' name and URL... I said they were highly recommended. (No thanks necessary, Hal, just throw money. ). I even added him to my palmtop user group list... he'll get an invite to the next meeting whenever I wind up holding it. I was just glad to represent this particular segment of the market. Maybe whatever company who ordered the research into the market will wind up making a box with as much versatility as the ol' 200LX. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:44:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: HP to the jungle and pocketjet info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, all. in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil on some missionary work. of course, this time i am more daring and plan to take the hp200lx. might even find a phone with compuserve access. my question is has anyone experience withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2 weeks). i am worried about reliability....I at least have lots of lithium cells to power it. I also have a backup 200 at home just in case.... also, i have a pocketjet printer now and was wondering how it fares in warmth and humidity. i dont really have to take it but it would be nice. Iwas also wondering if anyone has the power adapter or know of a source so that i can make a laerge power pack as i wont have ac durring parts of thr trip. and, if anyone has the quick refernce card, i could really use a copy...... mucho dave ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:44:55 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: HP to the jungle and pocketjet info Comments: To: 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dave, > in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil...my question is has anyone experience > withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2 > weeks). I spent 2 months in Brazil last year (Mata Atlantica) writing a long report on my 200LX, printing all the draft with the pocketjet printer on Fax paper, and exchanging files with my colleague via Travel Floppy from Accurite. All the equipment responded perfectly, it rather humid at the time. > Iwas also wondering if anyone has the power adapter or know of a > ource so that i can make a large power pack as i wont have ac ... For the Pocketjet, you definitely need the adapter or a strong battery, as the built-in battery lasts for only about 15-20 pages (it is marked 150mAh, 14,4 volts). A car battery might do, I have not tried it out, though. > and, if anyone has the quick reference card, i could really > use a copy...... Where do you want me to send the copy ? Regards Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:53:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: memory module Comments: To: Eben Rubin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Im interested in the memory board. Is it still available? Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Eben Rubin To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:19 AM Subject: memory module >I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB >unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It plugs in with no >soldering right on to the mainboard, if your mainboard has the socket. > >(Many do, I think particularly the newer ones, and I believe you can >tell without opening the machine by checking the serial #. For those >with boards that don't have the socket, it's available from several >shops who do HPLX work, and can be soldered in.) > >The price is $75. > >By the way, the reason the module is extra and unused is that my machine >didn't have the socket. I sent it to Mack to have the socket installed >(he did a very neat job), and because of a mixup, I wound up buying one >of his memory modules. >Eben > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:24:23 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Software Carousel - Who sells it? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, can anyone give me please the email address of the person/company who/which sells Software Carousel? Thanks daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:24:26 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: NEED HP 200 LX for exam... Comments: To: mihlo MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > Make proposition, 1 or 2 or 4 mo............ If you want to use a PCMCIA modem card to connect to the internet with the HPLX, you should take as much internal memory as possible, because you cannot use the modem card and a memory card at the same time. If you will use no modem or an external one, you will probably be pleased with a 2 MB 200LX, because you can buy a flash card with capacities of 1MB .. several 100 MB and store your works on it. GTX daniel P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem. I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete _all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:31:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Software Carousel - Who sells it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain http://www.thaddeus.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Hertrich ÝSMTP:d.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ > > can anyone give me please the email address of the > person/company who/which sells Software Carousel? > > Thanks > daniel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:41:04 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stephen Ward Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephen Ward Subject: Pegasus Mail In-Reply-To: <36DF4A15.AB80911C@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Anyone in the group using Pegasus Mail on the 200LX? I'm using Pegasus (freeware) now on my desktop & laptop, and think it would be marginally better to use it on the palmtop in order to ease the transfer of mail between palmtop & desktop. From preliminary rounds on various web sites, it seems a bear to set up and run. Also, can anyone compare the capabilities of Pegasus with the more current programs for the HP such as Goin' Postal, WWW/LX, or whatelse? TIA Stephen Ward sward@flash.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:00:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Yarnell Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:31:36 +0200, Rian Maartens = wrote: ma> Does anyone use the HP's battery power when they connect with ma> Creative Labs' 14.4 PCMCIA Modem Blaster? How long can you ma> stay connected? I have been using this modem on a DS 200lx for about nine months with no problems. I got about an hour on standard alkalines when I was playing....er...testing it. I now use NIMHs and adapter most of the time, but do occasional battery mail runs with no problems. Your experience sounds out of the ordinary. Do you have short battery life without the modem? P ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:00:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Yarnell Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: Bob Pigford MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290830427__" --__next_part__1290830427__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400, Bob Pigford = wrote: prOn Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:06 -0400, Bob Pigford = wrote: pr> I must comment in support of D&A, Thaddeus, 1SPS and all other = providers of pr> products and services for the HP200LX. Hear Hear. I have been doing long range business with Thaddeus, D&A etc for over two years and the level of expertise, support and WILLINGNESS to help has been a source of pleasure. Go ahead and write Bill Gate$ about a setup problem with IE and see if you get a reply, much less a helpful reply. For myself, I love being able to talk directly with the folks who wrote the programs I use and a very knowledgable community of users when the need arises. Granted, I would love to save money, but given the alternative................. P --__next_part__1290830427__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Yarnell pyarnell@proaxis.com "If you can't hide the skeletons in your closet, at least teach them to dance funny" - Rev. Billy C. Wirtz --__next_part__1290830427__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:11:28 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP to the jungle and pocketjet info > in a weeki am going tothe jungles of brazil...my question is has anyone experience > withthe hp and warm humid environs for prolonged times (2 > weeks). > > Iwas also wondering if anyone has the power adapter or know of a > ource so that i can make a large power pack as i wont have ac ... > If you are going to be away from AC power for months you could recharge your batteries using a solar panel. It would cost about 200 dollars for a panel which would recharge the batteries of both the printer and palmtop in a couple hours. The only thing is if you are going to be under the canopy in the rain forest I don't know how much sunlight you will have. Normally in the Brazilian lattitude you average about 5-8 hours of sunlight a day. If you want to check out solar panels you can look at www.jademountain.com. You could also make a battery pack for the palmtop using d cell batteries. Using 8 d cells should give you at least 160 hours of use. John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:11:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Software Carousel - Who sells it? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> We do. Check out www.palmtoppaper.com or email orders@thaddeus.com. It is $79.95 plus $12 to ship to Germany. Hal Goldstein President Thaddeus Computing Publisher HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER 110 North Court St. Fairfield, IA 52556 800 373 6114 or 515 472 6330 fax: 515 472 1879 hal@thaddeus.com or CompuServe: 75300,2443 www.thaddeus.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:29:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: System Password MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Didn't I read here one time that there is a way to set a system password on the 200LX? How do you do that? TIA, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Agenda and HP LX File transfer Comments: To: pimlist@onelist.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX? Primarily, I would be interested in going from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages also. tia, Claud ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:57:12 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <> >>Which batteries to you use. Non long-life Duracels and Rayovac's typically don't do as well as Energizers. Better are the lithium energizers, or the new alkaline duracels and energizers designed for electronic equipment.>> I use the Duracell Alkaline MN1500 batteries. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:30:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K I probably don't know what I'm talking about here but that seldom stops me. I contacted Corel several months ago about getting a license for WP5.1. I wanted to know their opinion on my purchasing a copy of the latest version and then using that license to legitimize my use of a "bootleg" copy of WP5.1. They told me not to bother; they said WP5.1 is still in the sales pool. It is at the full price as newer, Windows versions. Both sales representatives said they still recieve quite a few orders for it and most are corporate so they're pretty large. I confirmed this through a hardware/software provider who services our office. It seems to me getting the rights to sell WP5.1 (still on the market) would be far more difficult than securing the rights to Windows 3.0 (long dead). Also, the same issues that prompted Microsoft to exclude Word and Excel may prompt Corel to feel the same about their far superior product. Just some pessimistic thoughts. Larry Zimmerman PS - If you really want a copy of WP5.1 but don't want to pay new $ for it, hang out on Ebay. I got the disks (which I then lost) for $15. Our local state surplus store also has older PCs for sale $50-100 that have WP5.1 loaded on them as well. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:00:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K In-Reply-To: <19990407.154005.15038.0.zimm4@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote: > They told me not to bother; they said WP5.1 is still in the sales > pool. It is at the full price as newer, Windows versions. Both sales > representatives said they still recieve quite a few orders for it and > most are corporate so they're pretty large. I confirmed this through > a hardware/software provider who services our office. If I recall, they also recently came out with WordPerfect 5.1+, which is... well, I'm not exactly sure what the + signifies, but it's being sold even in local retail stores. Does anybody know what new features (if any) are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:08:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So Avi, how about asking the people on the list if they would be willing to pay for an IRC client (or any other client), and how much? This way you would get the general idea and be able to make a more informed decision. Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: A Meshar To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:15 AM Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx > > > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and > > > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not > > > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We > > > > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a > > PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL > > application sure would be slick! > > I am sure this will look familiar - :) ... > > It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and > that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did > not develop it. > > Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support > slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :) > I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred > and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client > was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump > down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as > was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before > that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step > up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:14:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> That means the cheapest way to buy WordPerfect is buy a PC . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:28:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got a copy of Lotus Organizer on a recent freebie-CD and wrote a simple Perl file so that I could download from my 200 into it. It was simple and worked ok, but I didn't end up liking Organizer much (It was free, and worth less than it cost) so I pretty much abandoned the line. The problem were principally in that I couldn't get Organizer to let me manage the `events' (essentially by downloading them from the 200) while it managed other things. So after screwing around for a couple of days I gave up... I can say that it's pretty straightforward, though. You won't have much trouble... Claud G. Cameron wrote: > > Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between > Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX? Primarily, I would be interested in going > from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages > also. > > tia, > > Claud > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:26:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Loading databases from icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm pretty certain this question has come up before, but since I can't seem to find it... Is there a way to set up an Appman-like menu, in SysMan (perhaps using MoreEXM and SMMX) with icons for each of my particular databases so that I can move to the one I want to open, press enter, and have it open up in the database app? I can do it with X-Finder, but I'd rather not have to scroll through all the files-- I want to set up particular icons. It would be even better if the menu itself was password protected. That way, I could set up icons for each of my protected atabases and have it automatically enter the password for me when it opened them... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:34:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer Comments: To: David Ness , pimlist@onelist.com In-Reply-To: <370BCE1B.5A6A781C@Home.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually, I don't want to go back and forth between the 'LX and Lotus Organizer. I want to go back and forth between Lotus Agenda and the 'LX, more or less to use the 'LX to notify me of meetings via the Appointment Book (and to a lesser extent, input meetings into the Appointment Book on the 'LX and transfer them into Agenda). At 05:28 PM 4/7/99 -0400, you wrote: >I got a copy of Lotus Organizer on a recent freebie-CD and wrote >a simple Perl file so that I could download from my 200 into >it. It was simple and worked ok, but I didn't end up liking >Organizer much (It was free, and worth less than it cost) so I >pretty much abandoned the line. > >The problem were principally in that I couldn't get Organizer to let >me manage the `events' (essentially by downloading them from the 200) >while it managed other things. So after screwing around for a couple >of days I gave up... > >I can say that it's pretty straightforward, though. You won't have >much trouble... > >Claud G. Cameron wrote: >> >> Has anyone used Perl and/or the Def files to transfer information between >> Lotus Agenda and the HP ??LX? Primarily, I would be interested in going >> from Agenda to the LX, but going the other way could have it's advantages >> also. >> >> tia, >> >> Claud >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:42:20 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K Comments: To: David Sargeant If I remember correctly there was an upgrade to existing WP users, later sold as 5.1+, called Screen Extender. This was a WYSIWYG, edit mode, graphics driver to overcome the limitations of the 80 col character screen. I remember it costing about USD 100 here in Norway. We contemplated buying it, but went the Windows Word way... I'm not quite sure on this one, but was it VGA only? Have a nice day! Franklin Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641. >even in local retail stores. Does anybody know what new features (if any) >are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:09:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WordPerfect 5.1+ adds: (according to the box) Additional power to: - retrieve WP6.0 documents into WP5.1+ - save a WP5.1+ file in WP6.0 format - send faxes directly from WP5.1+ (not receive) (FAXBIOS, Class 1, Class 2, or CAS - Communications Application Specification Driver required) - send documents through email from WP5.1+ also includes special editions of: - Stairway Software's ScreenExtender for WP5.1+ (WYSIWYG) (Works with SVGA, Gas Plasma, Hercules, EGA, VGA, CGA) - Bitstream FaceLift (font support and creation) The space requirements are large for the additional support and do not have to be installed. Recommended System Requirements - 286 pc or better 450K free conventional memory DOS 3.1 or higher Hard Disk with 5mb of free disk space The WP5.1+ package can be installed to be virtually the same as WP5.1 All additional features are optional There are some minor enhancements that are an inherent part of the product - it was a small upgrade to the basic WP5.1 Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of David Sargeant > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:01 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K > > If I recall, they also recently came out with WordPerfect 5.1+, which > is... well, I'm not exactly sure what the + signifies, but it's being sold > even in local retail stores. Does anybody know what new features (if any) > are included in WP51+, and if it will run on the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:10:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Win 3.0 on Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software : = www.voicenet.com/~generic/ = I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file= with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Wor= d or I'd do it myself. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:17:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick McGouirk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick McGouirk Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is another alternative to paying full price for WP5.1 that I discovered last year - the academic version of WP5.1+. It does not include Manuals, ScreenExtender, and MergeMaster, but otherwise is a full version of the 5.1 we all know and love. I'm not sure of the cost, but the Authorized Corel Reseller I got my copy from charged me $26. As for eligibility to buy academic software, Corel's policy is pretty loose and most everyone will find they can meet the requirements. Here's the web link for those interested. http://www.corel.com/cgi-bin/redir.exe?Target=%2Facademic%2Fproducts%2Fcwp51 dos.htm&x=13&y=8 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:35:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) Comments: To: Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <1288677494-46866042@talent.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI Using Landmark 2.00 (1990) My DS 200LX shows a cpu of 80186/80188 with a clock of 11.913 MHz like a 9 MHz AT (scales shows 9.12 MHz) Video shows 2715 chr/ms Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Russell Hemery > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:30 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook > > > >Am i missing something here? I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at > >7.14mhz and > >the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching > 16mhz. Would > >this app > >be of help on a 100/200lx system? > > Hi Dan & list > > The turbo software will not run on a DS LX. > > I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I have > compares to an AT. > > FYI The speed test software I am using is > > Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986. > > Speeds reported > > Vanilla 2MB on AC Running like an AT @4.3Mhz =2.4x Performance Relative > to a 4.77 XT > > Turbocpu installed @6.5Mhz =3.7x > > Maxcpu takes it to around 7.5 > > My DS 200lx tests at 8.7 =5.2x a normal XT @4.77 > > I trust this is of interest > > Russell > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:52:15 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sfml1@IBM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stu Foster Subject: Ýfluff¨ Re: Unsubscribe Comments: To: John Evans - N0HJ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Phil Drummond wrote: > > And by the way, organization is misspelled in your footer. > Not if he is British !!!! > Gee, anal today, are we??? Example of flame war for the person who was asking about it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:55:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) Comments: To: systemsconsulting@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where's the Landmark benchmark program? Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Systems Consulting To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) > FYI > > Using Landmark 2.00 (1990) > My DS 200LX shows a cpu of 80186/80188 > with a clock of 11.913 MHz > like a 9 MHz AT (scales shows 9.12 MHz) > Video shows 2715 chr/ms > > > > > Thanks, > > Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting > 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 > tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 > web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com > Maximizing the results of Information Systems > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Russell Hemery > > Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:30 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook > > > > > > >Am i missing something here? I thought the HP200lx CPU already ran at > > >7.14mhz and > > >the double speed upgrade takes them to something approaching > > 16mhz. Would > > >this app > > >be of help on a 100/200lx system? > > > > Hi Dan & list > > > > The turbo software will not run on a DS LX. > > > > I made a small error reporting speed as the speed testing software I have > > compares to an AT. > > > > FYI The speed test software I am using is > > > > Landmark CPU speed test version 0.99 Copyright 1986. > > > > Speeds reported > > > > Vanilla 2MB on AC Running like an AT @4.3Mhz =2.4x Performance Relative > > to a 4.77 XT > > > > Turbocpu installed @6.5Mhz =3.7x > > > > Maxcpu takes it to around 7.5 > > > > My DS 200lx tests at 8.7 =5.2x a normal XT @4.77 > > > > I trust this is of interest > > > > Russell > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:12:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Re: Fluff: WP 5.1 and Y2K I imagine it would be pretty tough to compete with that - buy WordPerfect, get a PC free. On Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:14:41 -0500 Hal Goldstein writes: >>>Our local state surplus store also has older PCs for sale $50-100 that >>>have WP5.1 loaded on them as well. > > >That means the cheapest way to buy WordPerfect is buy a PC . ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:28:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Loading databases from icons Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:16:09 -0500 (EST) 02h49m26s ago ... On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > Is there a way to set up an Appman-like menu, in SysMan (perhaps using > MoreEXM and SMMX) with icons for each of my particular databases so = that I > can move to the one I want to open, press enter, and have it open up in > the database app? I can do it with X-Finder, but I'd rather not have = to > scroll through all the files-- I want to set up particular icons. Interesting you ask about that. I just re-worked my finder.env and tried doing this (from the /Palmtop screen). Works perfectly. You need to have open.exe (from SUPER) in your path. The line in my .env that handles this is: %d=09,u=09,open c:\_dat\bromel.gdb=09#bromel2=09Bromel DB (The items are separated by hard tabs in my .env) The name after the # sign is the icon name (without extension) - here bromel2.icn > It would be even better if the menu itself was password protected. = That > way, I could set up icons for each of my protected atabases and have it > automatically enter the password for me when it opened them... Not sure if this is possible with X-Finder... It does have a key stuff capability, but I don't think it will work along with open.exe Interesting idea though. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:26:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Database trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I want to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now. If I convert it to dBase format the file jumps to about 5 megs. If I convert it to LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a line limit of about 8,192 lines. Is there any datebase program that will allow me to import the file as a CSV file because that format also keeps the file at about 650K. I was told that Paradox imports CSV format but it does not. Does anyone have any suggestions? TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:32:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Rich I'm in New York and I just need to know if Paradox will convert CSV format because I need a DB that will for what I'm doing. If it does I will buy the disks. I just tried a version that I pulled off my network at work and it didn't seem to convert CSV. Thanks Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:46:23 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Pegasus email on the 200LX Someone posted about using Pegasus for dos on the 200LX. Was is successful? If so since Pegasus can be used as a list server it might be possible to use it on the 200LX as one. That would be kind of neat! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:53:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Ed Keefe To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 5:14 PM Subject: Win 3.0 on Palmtop I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software : www.voicenet.com/~generic/ Does anyone know where I can find a copy of Windows 3.0 either electronically for download, or on 3.5" disks. Ive had Windows 1.03, 2, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WinOS2, Windows95, Win98 on my systems at one time or another so i think I have the license covered by now, its just that Ive moved a few times since 3.0 was around and dread looking through years of packed up stuff for a set of disks. Although im going to experiment with it on a 1000cx, Im really wanting to put it on a SLT/286 that im trying to squeeze a bit of life out of. Anyone have any ideas? BTW: In my searching so far, Ive found my mint condition Windows v1.03 HD 1.2mb diskettes if anyone knows anything they are good for (besides multitasking clocks) Thanks, dan driden@stlnet.com .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:16:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Loading databases from icons Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Buddy will open the gdb application when you select a db file. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:16:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it > was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file > > with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk. Can anyone confirm or deny > this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Wor Ms has a site which identifies y2k problems with older versions of their products. MS Word 5.0 (which I use on the desktop and the HP200) for DOS also has a real problem supposedly. And it may be similar - not just a messed up date but at least a messed up file. I don't recall if there were also disk problems, too. What I don't understand is why the code for a word processor would be so critically tied to a date that it could create havoc rather than just creating date related issues. And, yes, I do understand other y2k problems. I am probably one of those at fault. I was a cobol programmer with AT&T Long Lines in the early 70's. I remember well, my date PIC 99 clauses!!! I even remember asking about the future. Storage and memory was too dear!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:17:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: F. Kaufman To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop > >What I don't understand is why the code for a word processor would be so >critically tied to a date that it could create havoc rather than just >creating date related issues. Sounds strange to me too. I can understand it in a database, payroll, etc application but in a word processor. Thats as bad as Tandy making their old TRS-DOS application not accept dates greater than 2-3years after release so they could force upgrades every few years. > >And, yes, I do understand other y2k problems. I am probably one of >those at fault. I was a cobol programmer with AT&T Long Lines in the >early 70's. I remember well, my date PIC 99 clauses!!! I even remember >asking about the future. Storage and memory was too dear!!!! Ah. so your the one! Actually i remember that as well, If 4 digit dates were used when I was in college and they were not critical to the application they would be counted as a waste and inefficient. No foresight at all. Well my last DOS apps I developed used a julian that I know whill die a horrible death in the year 2079. I figure that even if im around then (doubt it) they have worse problems if they are still using DOS in 2079! Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:31:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop In-Reply-To: <00d301be8155$34d91dc0$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > Sounds strange to me too. I can understand it in a database, payroll, > etc application but in a word processor. Thats as bad as Tandy making > their old TRS-DOS application not accept dates greater than 2-3years > after release so they could force upgrades every few years. I remember in Perfect Filer on my Kaypro II I would try to enter in "4-1-1990" and it would tell me "Can't accept dates greater than 12/31/87." It used to irritate me terribly... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:00:21 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daivd Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daivd Lawrence Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I want > to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now. If I > convert it to dBase format the file jumps to about 5 megs. If I convert it to > LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a line > limit of about 8,192 lines. Is there any datebase program that will allow me > to import the file as a CSV file because that format also keeps the file at > about 650K. I was told that Paradox imports CSV format but it does not. Does > anyone have any suggestions? > TIA > Tony Guzewicz Dataperfect, freeware from Corel, link from Super, www.palmtop.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:16 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto Andreas Garzotto writes: > This is not fully correct. WWW/LX also uses the specs at > http://www.crynwr.com/packet_driver.html if it wants to talk to a > packet driver, e.g. for an Ethernet card. Wow! This is something that I didn't know, and I congratulate you guys for using the "defacto standard" where one exists. My public apologies if my post misrepresented what WWW/LX could do (due to my own ignorance), and thanks for correcting me. This may open up new possibilities for interopertation between the multiple TCP/IP solutions available for the HP! Andreas, are you aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet mode will run on top of PKTMUX ? I'm thinking that maybe we can use PKTMUX to have WWW/LX and LXTCP or Goin' Postal or other WatTCP utilities working together - thereby allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one phone connection without having to redial). If this was the case, then you might get a WWW/LX sale to the LXTCP author :-) I'd love to be able to use WWW/LX for web browsing, while still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides. > Actually, we release it to people who tell us what they want to do with > it (so that they don't compete with our products and so that we are > informed about who uses it (support issues!)). A laudable way to run your business. Bravo. I've been thinking lately about dropping LXTCP development, and taking you up on the offer above. I guess the sticking point is how much other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API). If I'm the only one who needs the source code (to make programs that suit my requirements), then I might as well base new programs (which could still be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete (i.e. porting the NCSA FTP server to the WWW/LX API). Does anyone else actually use the source code to LXTCP that I make public ? -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:39:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be useful if you could say a little more about what you mean by `database type dictionary'. What is it you want to do? Do you want to search for exact matches or for `all' matches according to some criteria? Do you want to search for `ranges' of data or just specific values. The problem sounds quite `small' by most standards, and there should be lots of (more or less appropriate, depending on your answers to the above questions) possibilities. aguze118 wrote: > > I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns wide. I want > to use it as a database type dictionary. It is approximately 650K now. ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:52:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:31:16 +0930, Rod Whitby wrote: > I'm thinking that maybe we can use PKTMUX to have WWW/LX and LXTCP or > Goin' Postal or other WatTCP utilities working together - thereby > allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well > as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one > phone connection without having to redial). Rod, please, write us a good IRC client that will do DCC file transfers :) I would be willing to pay for a decent chat program. I use IRC to keep up with friends and family across the country and world. I currently use ircII from my UNIX shell account, but it would awesome to have a nice program developed for the LX that would run on a PPP connection. I used Voice, a DOS irc program, but it can't do file transfers. > Does anyone else actually use the source code to LXTCP that I make > public ? I have looked at it and played around with it just a little, but can't say that I use it. 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:10:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David L Sprinkle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David L Sprinkle Subject: DC20 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: I have a couple of questions for users of the Kodak DC20 and LXDC. First will a 2xHP200 work with the DC20 and LXDC. My unit would not comunicate with the DC20 at any erial port setting. Second when I tried to connect with a 4mb 1x palmtop, I found that it did connect, that upon pressing F1, LXDC would display the version # 1.00 and the Taken/Rest # of pictures. The Taken/rest # did correspond the # of pictures on the DC20. However when I pressed F2 to look at the thumbnails, I got a message "Can't open file" and nothing else. The DC20 is working properly since ith will connect with the Kodak software on my notebook and display all 8 images. Am I doing something stupid? Help! Dave Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu Indiana University Physics Dept. Swain West Rm. 117 Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:20:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Albert.Kind@UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al kind Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 05h01m48s ....>> in the future <<.... On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, aguze118 wrote: > I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns > wide. I want to use it as a database type dictionary... How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built in string look-up cabability? That is the method I use for a database I have with drug names & molecular weights. Text file should be smaller too. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:22:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Easter Egg?!?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As many of you may or may not know I use both Goin' Postal and WWW/LX on my LX. I know that Goin' Postal has a hidden Easter Egg in it (anyone find it yet?) and I think I just discovered one in WWW/LX. If it is do I win a prize Andreas :)? Here's what I discovered, it's new to me, maybe someone else has seen it: I left the main screen by using then hit for HV with no disconnect. This brought me to the HV screen that displays whatever data may be in the post.tmp file. Here's the cool thing that I found. The data/message that was displayed happened to be a post I had written to a newsgroup on my ISP's local server. In this message I had used a smiley towit :) Well.... the smiley was actually displayed as a little round smiling face! At first I didn't realize what it was, then as I looked closer it was a cute smiling face. Did I discover something or is this old news? 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:21:58 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: aguze118@stjohns.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/7/1999 07:30:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU writes: > If I convert it to > LOtus 123 format the file stays about the same (650K) but Lotus has a line > limit of about 8,192 lines. By far the simplest solution is to move the last 3K lines (or more) of col's 1 & 2 to Col's 3 & 4. Might make some searches a little slower, but with a logical break point, it might be easier than using a 3rd program. Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:58:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terrence Chun Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terrence Chun Subject: YAPS (Yet another palmtop sighting...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I found yet another occurrence of the HP200lx in real life applications. At the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit here at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles, CA, we are testing a new device for monitoring patients. The device is handheld and has a serial port which is connected to an HP200lx (2meg, 1x) for data collection. Perhaps not incredibly exciting, but it was a thrill for me (okay, I lead a very dull life). Also at Cedars, all of the Medicine-Pediatrics (and perhaps Internal Medicine, as well) residents are offered a 2meg HP200lx as a loaner during their residency (being in Pediatrics, I had to buy my own). We have IRDA printers available on all of the floors for printing and will occasionally beam patient info between computers ("cybersex") when we switch services. -- Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:19:36 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daivd Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daivd Lawrence Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My phone list is 887 entries, and on my std 2meg 200lx it opens/closes in 2seconds. I use the notes field extensively, and have several subsets. I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset... then closes the file. I also use this macro with WorldTime and Database & NoteTaker files. {F6}{Home}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10} {F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10} {F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{ Down}{F10}{F6}{Home}{F10} ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:44:51 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Rich C. Johnson wrote: > > OK, > I'm not sure what a fair price would be. What sounds fair to you? > Where are you located? (I am in Ohio) > How do you want to handle shipping? (the whole package probably weighs 6 lbs.) > > BTW, I also have a complete copy of Lotus Symphony if that might interest you as well. > > Let me know how you want to proceed. > > Rich > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Hi Rich I WILL LET it go for $30.00 with shipping $5.00 total $35.00 I live in San Francisco ca. Thanks for the offer of Symphony I have a copy.(one of the best programs out in it's day but it's still can go up against ms office 95 or 97) Let me know Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:48:58 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit aguze118 wrote: > > Hi Rich > I'm in New York and I just need to know if Paradox will convert CSV format > because I need a DB that will for what I'm doing. If it does I will buy the > disks. I just tried a version that I pulled off my network at work and it > didn't seem to convert CSV. > Thanks > Tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I don't think it will. I will try it in a day or so. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:14:30 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: HP95LX Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit David I have an old HP95LX AND HP200LX. I purchase the 4 pack 1350 mah nickel metal hydride from Thaddeus computing I put them in my HP95LX They work fine (not a good idea?) when it comes to charging I am trouble where do I go to charge. BOB1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:21:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Olsen Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is more software, but a CPU upgrade... I still quietly hold on to the idea that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow shooved into a 200LX (when you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and other large items, it should fit...). I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium CPU/Memory/Motherboard units... why can't anyone build a new 200LX around that? Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA... I just want to be able to run real software on it... even if it IS limited to the 32MB of harddrive space I have on a flash card... Tony -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop >Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what >I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made >availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus >documentation, QFax, etc. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:29:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Olsen Subject: Re: 200lx for sale Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set. -----Original Message----- From: Larry N Zimmerman To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM Subject: 200lx for sale >I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping: > > 200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual, > SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter, > HP Power Adapter (F1011A), > Connectivity Cable, > 14.4 Modem (Compaq), > Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.), > CaseLogic Case, and > WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card). > >I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on >individual items at this time. > >I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested >amateur. I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply. > I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask >me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio. >I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it. > >Larry Zimmerman >Topeka, KS, USA > > > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:29:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > This may open up new possibilities for interopertation between the > multiple TCP/IP solutions available for the HP! Frankly, I don't think this makes any difference. Everybody seems to think that TCP/IP is *within* a packet driver. If it were, it would make a difference because then indeed there would be a common interface that TCP/IP based applications could use. But as it is, it does not help that much more than running on the same OS helps. > Andreas, are you > aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet > mode will run on top of PKTMUX ? I don't know PKTMUX. If it provides a standard packet driver interface, WWW/LX should be able to run on top of it when set up for Ethernet. What is PKTMUX? > allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well > as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one > phone connection without having to redial). Ah, now I see what you mean. You could use the same phone connection to use the different packages one after the other. That should work, even with EPPPD. But it takes more memory (namely the memory EPPPD needs, because all that EPPPD is used for is built into WWW/LX and therefore in memory twice). > still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily > basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides. What are these utilities? > you up on the offer above. I guess the sticking point is how much > other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would > no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API). Yup. There just seem too many people (a few are enough) who seem to have no other hobby than trying to abuse companies :-( I love free software, but you just cannot provide too much support for it... > then I might as well base new programs (which could still > be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of > WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete Personally, I would find that very interesting. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:51:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Easter Egg?!?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > In this message I had used a smiley > towit :) Well.... the smiley was actually displayed as a little round > smiling face! At first I didn't realize what it was, then as I looked closer > it was a cute smiling face. Did I discover something or is this old news? Old news for me. :-) When I implemented HV, I noticed that "", which is very frequently used on CompuServe, looks like a HTML tag, so I added support for it. Congratulations! You have won the following smiley: ;-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:20:28 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: More fluff: WP5.1 with free PC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry N Zimmerman wrote: >I imagine it would be pretty tough to compete with that - buy WordPerfect, get a PC free. Yes, but the sort of PC you'd get would be an XT-compatible, 80x25 mono screen, 512k RAM, running plain DOS. We all know that a PC like that is completely obsolete and only good for a boat anchor - unless you can fit it in your pocket! br Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:43:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: Anthony Olsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Anthony Olsen To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:24 AM Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop >I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is >more software, but a CPU upgrade... I still quietly hold on to the idea >that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow shooved into a 200LX (when >you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and other large items, it should >fit...). Its been done already in a way... and resulted in the IBM PC110. Which could be described as 2/3 the size of a libretto, or as the same height & width of a 200lx but about 1.5" deeper than the 200lx. The problem isnt size though! Its battery life the 200lx gets its wonderful battery life from its low power components, if you pop a 486 or pentium CPU in there, no matter how low power it is its still only a shadow of the miserly requirements of the 200lx. So if you need more power and want to sacrifice battery life for it (you can always carry spares) then the PC110 is an excellent choice, and the libretto is as well at the cost of extra size/weight. Now what could work, but we would never see it is borrowing a bit from the older omnibooks. Take a 386/486 low power cpu, put it in a case the size of a HP 680 with its Series 5 like keyboard with a backlit mono screen + optional backlit (ala 360lx) and fit it with a lithium/Ion battery attached to the back (or front) with an optional High capacity slab battery which would add about 1/4" to the thickness of the unit. Will we see anything remotely like this? No! but it would be interesting. > >I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium >CPU/Memory/Motherboard units... why can't anyone build a new 200LX around >that? Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA... I just want to >be able to run real software on it... even if it IS limited to the 32MB of >harddrive space I have on a flash card... Its not that it can't be done, its just that the market isnt going that way. When HP was an engineering shop and designed the 100/200/1000cx they actually used the units, and in some cases still do (i remember singapore shots of WinCE machines on a bench being tested by a 200lx ). Now most of the machines out there are designed with sales driven goals, and IMO often have never been really field tested for usefulness. Its sad but its the way of things, and I doubt we will see anything as innovative and useful for some time to come. Its wierd but history in handhelds is repeating that of desktop evolution. For example: HP Released DOS based handhelds (HP95/100/200/1000cx) (IBM released PC's) Palm releases the Pilot with a simple GUI OS (Apple released the Macintosh) Microsoft invents WinCE to enter the market against palm (MS Windows vs Apple Mac) Now whats even stranger is that the 200lx is similar in architecture to a early PC, and the Palm is similar to a Macintosh (68000 series processor, etc.) Well enough of my rambling. Dan driden@stlnet.com > > Tony > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Musielewicz >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM >Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop > > >>Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what >>I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made >>availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus >>documentation, QFax, etc. >> >>** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:47:38 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: Anthony Olsen It sounds pretty easy but even though the hardware is there the main problem is trying to run a 386+ cpu on a pair of AA cells. The best I've seen is a bare-bones 486 board that was running Linux that claimed around 80mA using a 5 volt power supply. The cpu itself was probably using at least 60 mA. No video, pcmcia, serial. Add it and your looking at upwards of 100+ mA which will only give you 8-12 hours of battery life compared to the 20+ you get now. Can you live with it? You'd be at the level of CE or worse. The x86 is a high drain cpu. So that means additional development costs. It really sucks the current compared to the newer strong arm. The second problem is would a board like that sell? I would buy one and you would buy one but thats only two. Its expensive to manufacture niche market products. You gotta be able to make a certain quantity otherwise you price yourself right out of the market. Nobody would pay 2 or 3 grand for a upgrade. Even at 1 its pushing it. Low power x86 are coming very late in the game, they're not very good and the customer base is eroding. > I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't need is > more software, but a CPU upgrade... I still quietly hold on to the idea > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop > > > >Win 3 has a novelty that might appeal to some people but what > >I'd rather see are programs that have been discontinued made > >availible again. Like Letterperfect, Computer Calculus > >documentation, QFax, etc. > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: DC20 Comments: cc: dsprinkl@INDIANA.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 >I have a couple of questions for users of the Kodak DC20 and LXDC. >First will a 2xHP200 work with the DC20 and LXDC. My unit would not >comunicate with the DC20 at any erial port setting. >Second when I tried to connect with a 4mb 1x palmtop, I found that >it did connect, that upon pressing F1, LXDC would display the >version # 1.00 and the Taken/Rest # of pictures. The Taken/rest # >did correspond the # of pictures on the DC20. However when I >pressed F2 to look at the thumbnails, I got a message "Can't open >file" and nothing else. The DC20 is working properly since ith will >connect with the Kodak software on my notebook and display all 8 >images. Am I doing something stupid? Help! Message-Id: <19990408075422.FWLF6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net> Well, I just sold my DC20, but I can tell you it worked in my 2x/6mb 200LX with LXDC. Could be something wrong with your connector. I built mine with the help of some list members' instructions and the diagrams on the different websites, but I think it's supposed to work (and I remember trying it this way) with the provided cable, the LX cable and an adapter (I forget which)....and I sold my connector too. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns >> wide. I want to use it as a database type dictionary... Message-Id: <19990408075436.FWMH6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net> >How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then >viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built >in string look-up cabability? That is the method I use for a >database I have with drug names & molecular weights. Text file >should be smaller too. OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:54:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden Loo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 >I think we're all missing the real point... what the 200LX doesn't >need is more software, but a CPU upgrade... I still quietly hold >on to the idea that a Libretto 50CT internals could be somehow >shooved into a 200LX (when you remove the Libretto's harddrive, and >other large items, it should fit...). >I've seen sites advertising credit card sized 200+ MMX Pentium >CPU/Memory/Motherboard units... why can't anyone build a new 200LX >around that? Who cares about the 200LX CGA screen not being VGA... >I just want to be able to run real software on it... even if it IS >limited to the 32MB of harddrive space I have on a flash card... Message-Id: <19990408075443.FWMW6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net> Considering how we've been arguing the dollars and cents of even adding an IRC client with a vendor these last few days, and that a simple memory upgrade to 64mb (with no real change in the architecture) will set you back $500 or so...building and marketing a new 200LX around a completely different architecture is a pretty optimisitic proposition, given how most of us are such tightwads (as Avi and Hal can attest to) . But I'm all in favor of optimists....I think the most hardware savy members of this group would probably jump at a chance to do something truly awesome with the LX (besides extending the chrome exhaust pipes) if a reasonable opportunity presented itself. This CPU on a card has been mentioned before, and that no one has pursued it (or any CPU upgrade) is probably a testament to how tightly integrated the LX's systems are (CPU, display, I/O). What's being proposed is perhaps possible, but I think it may be an over-simplification to suppose that it was feasible based solely on the component sizes. Just because we can make little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars. So for the moment, I'll have to content myself with a two speed upgrade and the fact that I am already running "real software" on it. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:00:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Longden Loo To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:56 AM Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop >Just because we can make >little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars. Now thats a scary thought. It would definitely give new meaning to minor accidents. Yes i can see it now: "today there was a pileup on the Los Angeles freeway, the glow could be seen from Las Vegas. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:20:46 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Pegasus Mail Comments: To: Stephen Ward Pegasus works fine on the 200LX. It was easy I just copied the files from my desktop to the palmtop. Its large though. It used about a meg of space. > Anyone in the group using Pegasus Mail on the 200LX? I'm using > Pegasus (freeware) now on my desktop & laptop, and think it would be > marginally better to use it on the palmtop in order to ease the > transfer of mail between palmtop & desktop. From preliminary rounds > on various web sites, it seems a bear to set up and run. > > Also, can anyone compare the capabilities of Pegasus with the more > current programs for the HP such as Goin' Postal, WWW/LX, or > whatelse? > > TIA > > > Stephen Ward > sward@flash.net > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:12:09 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daivd Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daivd Lawrence Subject: Re: Windoze on palmtops... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office? Freeware, dos-based, fast, cga compat, link to WPx.x, DataPerfect, user-configurable menus, built-in Filer, Calculator, Notebook/database, Editor & context sensitive help. You can even have your LX sysmanager on a menu! follow the yellow brick road from www.palmtop.net David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 04:25:35 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Modem/memory PCMCIA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain All; > >GTX, >daniel > >P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem. >I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete >_all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough > One can also get a memory modem card. I've seen them as high as 20MB with a 14.4 modem. Semper mobilius, yor pal al................... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:51:47 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Windoze on palmtops... Comments: To: Daivd Lawrence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office? >follow the yellow brick road from www.palmtop.net :-) I am lost, where's the yellow brick road to WordPerfect Office? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 07:55:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Agenda and HP LX File transfer Comments: To: cameronc@IX.Netcom.com It's been a while since I used Agenda but I seem to remember that it shipped with a versatile utility program that could parse files from just about any format into Agenda files. I think it could translate both ways. In fact there was a separate book included which described how to use the program. Next time I'm in my basement I'll rummage around and see if I can find it. I have all the docs... the question is where . Hope this helps, Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:01:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU There was a nice fast little database program called Reflex which will run on an XT, has a small footprint (approx 100k), and will import/export to csv format. Borland created it. It is from the mid-1980s so may be available as copyrighted freeware (a la Data Perfect). Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 08:03:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU I will check the documentation and let you know. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:05:01 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: German T-Online's international connections (iPass) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Is there any informatian available if it's feasable to connect with the palmtop to a T-Online account from 'anywhere' ? iPass is a US-company which seems to handle the international connections. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:57:28 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: DOS-Office SW on palmtops (was: Windoze on palmtops...) In-Reply-To: <199904081112.XAA02574@fep1-orange.clear.net.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Daivd Lawrence > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 1:12 PM > > May I respectfully suggest WordPerfect Office? > What's about the Lotus palette of such programs? They developed the palmtop SW I think. The Lotus Smart Suite is an office package (W95/98, NT, OS/2) which has excellent Import/Export facilities, especially in the data base area. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:14:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: 200lx for sale Comments: To: Anthony Olsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's sold but thanks for your response. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Olsen To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:29 AM Subject: Re: 200lx for sale > If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry N Zimmerman > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM > Subject: 200lx for sale > > > >I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping: > > > > 200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual, > > SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter, > > HP Power Adapter (F1011A), > > Connectivity Cable, > > 14.4 Modem (Compaq), > > Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.), > > CaseLogic Case, and > > WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card). > > > >I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on > >individual items at this time. > > > >I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested > >amateur. I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply. > > I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask > >me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio. > >I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it. > > > >Larry Zimmerman > >Topeka, KS, USA > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:42:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: 200lx for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was miss routed to me. I assume Larry Z. still has the package for sale. Sorry for stepping on someone else's post, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Sprague To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 9:14 AM Subject: Re: 200lx for sale > It's sold but thanks for your response. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anthony Olsen > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 2:29 AM > Subject: Re: 200lx for sale > > > > If you haven't sold it, I'll give you $200 for the set. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry N Zimmerman > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 1999 8:09 AM > > Subject: 200lx for sale > > > > > > >I have the following items to sell as a package for US$325.00 + Shipping: > > > > > > 200lx 2 Meg - one year old with manual, > > > SanDisk 10 Meg CF card with PCMCIA adapter, > > > HP Power Adapter (F1011A), > > > Connectivity Cable, > > > 14.4 Modem (Compaq), > > > Misc. Adapters (null modem, parallel, etc.), > > > CaseLogic Case, and > > > WordPerfect 5.1(sorry, lost disks - loaded on CF card). > > > > > >I don't want to sell the individual pieces right now; please no offers on > > >individual items at this time. > > > > > >I've also got an AEA PK-232MBX multimode/packet machine for an interested > > >amateur. I've got the manual, two cables, and a RadioShack power supply. > > > I put it up once and ran it through the paces and it works but don't ask > > >me much beyond that 'cause I just don't know squat about packet radio. > > >I'd take US$100 + Shipping for it. > > > > > >Larry Zimmerman > > >Topeka, KS, USA > > > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:45:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Software Carousel - Who sells it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It's also sold in Germany by Rundel Datentechnik ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:50:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: Longden Loo In-Reply-To: ; from Longden Loo on Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 12:54:33AM -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-08-06:54:33 Longden Loo: > OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it > to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the > CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds > extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the > file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large > DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem. Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting CSV -> DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how many variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF format is fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for space bloat. For instance, I just made a sample to play with; I started with: "col0","col1","col2","col3","col4","col5","col6","col7","col8","col9" "This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","","","","" "","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","","","" "","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","","" "","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","","" "","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","","" "","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","","" "","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","","" "","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","","" "","","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying","" "","","","","","","","","","This very very wide field value is bloody annoying" Then I made copies of the last 10 lines, until I had 8,000 copies all up (8,001 lines in the csv file); with newlines (on Unix, no CRs) it came to some 640KB. Converted it to dbf with a simple perl script and the resulting file was about 4MB. Have more variable-width fields, or a wider range of variation, and the bloat hurts harder. When this bloat bugs me, I look for the extra-long values that are bloating out the fields, and find a way to recode 'em to make the field widths more uniform record-to-record. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:47:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Dim screen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Last night my 200LX screen started dimming out for some reason. During bootup or when running diagnostics the screen contrast is fine, but when it goes to the topcard the screen is dim from then on. I've tried but that doesn't help. I've changed the batteries, and tried running from AC, but it's still the same. Any thoughts?? TIA, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:48:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: A more powerful "200lx" There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York Times that might be of interest. The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick. The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor and modem." Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete article. Registration for NYTimes online is free. Larry Zimmerman ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:27:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" EdwardKeefe wrote: > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed that it > was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save a large file > with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk. Can anyone confirm or deny > this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an early version of Word > or I'd do it myself. I changed my system date to 2001, used word 1.0 w/ win 2.03 on a 25,000 word document. Made a few minutes of changes and saved. No problems, AFAIK. Date of the file had 04/08/01 in the Summary Info of word. You can dwnld word and windows below. ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:04:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rudolf Stamm Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rudolf Stamm Subject: Dictionary In-Reply-To: <199904080651.IAA10874@if0010.swisslife.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo I am searching for a Dos Version of the Langenscheidt Dictionary German French running on the LX200. Does someone know where to get ? Rudolf ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:35:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" In-Reply-To: <19990408.104837.18950.0.zimm4@juno.com> from Larry N Zimmerman at "Apr 8, 99 10:48:37 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not wishing to sign up for yet another source of email, were there any websites listed in the article for the maker of this cool item? I can see my next Unix server just waiting for me... :-) > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick. > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor > and modem." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:50:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Database trouble In-Reply-To: <19990408145023.A28387@mordor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting > CSV -> DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how > many variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF > format is fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for > space bloat. For instance, I just made a sample to play with; I > started with: And that's why database files often compress quite well with software like Jam and Stacker. Personally, if I ever get my multimegabyte GNIS placename DBF files onto the palmtop, I'll load Jam or Stacker first so space won't be heavily wasted. In fact, I'd have done this already, if I could read a Jammed or Stacked flash card from Windows 98 on my desktop... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 10:23:47 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wanted to price a copy of Win95 on Ebay, but it turns out that 98% of the listings for Win95 have had an invalid link inserted. Microsoft lawyers are after some vendors of counterfeit Win95 in Virginia and it smells like they talked to Ebay. Some sellers may be disappointed when the high bid is $1 for their CD. I know it is of questionable legality to buy "preowned" software. My opinion is that if you are selling the CD plus supporting material, it should be OK. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:45:31 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I you have a two field dbf file and specify that each field allow 50 chars., then each record will be 10 chars., even though you may only enter 5 chars. in each. DBF files are blank padded to the specified field sizes. If you can stand the time/TSR space penalty, using a compressor such as Diet will regain you that space and probably more. Longden Loo wrote: > >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns > >> wide. I want to use it as a database type dictionary... > Message-Id: <19990408075436.FWMH6844@34.oxnard-01rs13-14rt.ca.dial-access.att.net> > > >How about converting it to a text file, formatting with tabs, then > >viewing with Vern Buerg's LIST(or similar program) which has built > > OTOH, I took a 10,000 row, 2 column text file (200k bytes) and converted it > to DBF, and the size shrank to 190k. I guessed it was the omission of the > CR/LFs....but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds > extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the > file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large > DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:50:34 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pardon, a zero got left out of the second line in my earlier msg. If you have a two field dbf file and specify that each field allow 50 chars., then each record will be 100 chars., even though you may only enter 5 chars. in each. DBF files are blank padded to the specified field sizes. If you can stand the time/TSR space penalty, using a compressor such as Diet will regain you that space and probably more. Longden Loo wrote: > >> I have an Excel file. It is about 11,000 lines long and 2 columns > >> wide. I want to use it as a database type dictionary... ..but the original poster's explosion from 650k to 5mb sounds > extreme....hard to diagnose without knowing more about the makeup of the > file, but bloated DBF formats shouldn't be taken as a given, and his large > DBF sounds suspiciously like a conversion problem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:53:28 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Benjamin Connelly Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Benjamin Connelly Subject: SMMx Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi- First- really enjoy the collective knowledge of this list. I am running SmmX after some struggle on a 1 Meg LX200. When I run a session it makes the system clock reset. Anyone else having similar problems? Ben Benjamin Connelly 650-766-2341 ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:00:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? In-Reply-To: <370CCA03.C893595D@kdsi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote: > I know it is of questionable legality to buy "preowned" software. My > opinion is that if you are selling the CD plus supporting material, it > should be OK. I don't think it's of questionable legality. In fact, I believe that selling the software is specifically allowed in the licenses of most software. Of course, if you keep a copy, then you're illegal... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:05:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: Dictionary Comments: To: Rudolf Stamm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Look at the Langenscheidt Web Page. I saw something there. Winfried > Hallo > I am searching for a Dos Version of the Langenscheidt Dictionary German > French running on the LX200. > Does someone know where to get ? > Rudolf > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:00:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Following article quoted from the NYTimes web site without permission...: Section quoted is part of multi-subject article at: http://search.nytimes.com/search/daily/bin/fastweb?getdoc+site+iib-site+74+0 +wAAA+matchbox -------- start quote --- A Tiny Personal Computer Is So Small It Can Be Worn --- With his latest invention, Vaughan Pratt, a professor of computer science at Stanford University, has taken one small step for a man and one really tiny step for mankind. Pratt has created one of the world's smallest personal computers. Not only can it run Windows 95 and surf the Net, but it's also meant to be worn as a fashion statement. Pratt's compact computer is a mere five square inches and four-fifths of an inch thick, but brain-wise, it dwarfs many bigger personal digital assistants. It contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor and modem. Then there is its other unusual feature: the ability to be worn as an accessory. Pratt said one impetus behind his creation of the puny PC was to make it wearable; it can be attached to a belt or necklace. The driving force behind the creation of the new computer, which Pratt is temporarily calling the matchbox PC, involves advances in the world of embedded computers. These are computers that manufacturers put into all manner of things big and small, like toaster ovens, cars and even watches. Increasingly, the creators of these computers have found it difficult to find standard software to run on them, so they have tried to make embedded computers compatible with PC software, Pratt said. -------- end quote Additional references: http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/components/dimmpc486.html http://www.pctvmag.com/tiny.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:51 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dim screen Comments: To: Steve Dowell MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Steve, > Last night my 200LX screen started dimming out for some reason. > During bootup or when running diagnostics the screen contrast is > fine, but when it goes to the topcard the screen is dim from then on. > > I've tried but that doesn't help. I've changed the batteries, > and tried running from AC, but it's still the same. AFAIK the screen dims when the palmtop gets hot. (While charging batteries for example) So maybe there is something wrong in your machine that it becomes warm while working with it? Is it only the topcard or dims the screen also if you run plain DOS for a while? Or dims it only if there should be much black on the screen (like a topcard or maybe a GUI of a graphical DOS program) GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:58:34 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) Comments: To: Daivd Lawrence MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi > I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the > file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset... > then closes the file. OK, now we know what it does. But I don't know for what. Why does it increase the efficiency? GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:10:55 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Modem/memory PCMCIA Comments: To: al chin MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Al, > >P.S.: I have a 4MB 200LX and use a PCMCIA modem. > >I wish I had more internal memory. But if I delete > >_all_ not really needed stuff, 4MB is just enough > > > One can also get a memory modem card. I've seen > them as high as 20MB with a 14.4 modem. Yes, I know, but they are way too expensive!!! TNX+GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:34:27 +0000 Reply-To: ted@nicar.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ted Peterson Organization: IRE/NICAR Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ed, This is a good site. I recently purchased Power Point 2.0 from Gene Ehrich, and received it fairly promptly. --Ted On 7 Apr 99 18:10, Ed Keefe wrote: From: Ed Keefe > I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop > under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software : > www.voicenet.com/~generic/ > > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed > that it was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save > a large file with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk. Can anyone > confirm or deny this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an > early version of Word or I'd do it myself. > > .ed. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Peterson | IRE/NICAR Webmaster | http://www.ire.org (573) 882-2042 | http://www.nicar.org ---------------------------------------------------------------- "The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but plunges him more deeply into them." --Antoine De Saint-Exupery" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:12:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on Palmtop he's got the American hertiage Dictionary for $9.. damn! I just paid $25! > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Peterson Ýmailto:ted@NICAR.ORG¨ > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:34 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Win 3.0 on Palmtop > > > Ed, > > This is a good site. I recently purchased Power Point 2.0 from Gene > Ehrich, and received it fairly promptly. > > --Ted > > On 7 Apr 99 18:10, Ed Keefe wrote: > From: Ed Keefe > > > I was looking for old copies of Word that would run on the Palmtop > > under Win3.0 and found a site that has lots of old software : > > www.voicenet.com/~generic/ > > > > I also ran across a text document about Word 1 or 2 that claimed > > that it was not Y2K compliant. The writer stated that trying to save > > a large file with a date >2000 corrupted his hard disk. Can anyone > > confirm or deny this? I know that's asking a lot but I don't have an > > early version of Word or I'd do it myself. > > > > .ed. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Ted Peterson | IRE/NICAR > Webmaster | http://www.ire.org > (573) 882-2042 | http://www.nicar.org > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > "The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of > nature but plunges him more deeply into them." > --Antoine De Saint-Exupery" > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:25:51 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" > With his latest invention, Vaughan Pratt, a professor of computer science at > Stanford University, has taken one small step for a man and one really tiny > step for mankind. Pretty flashy > > Pratt has created one of the world's smallest personal computers. Not only Apparently if the 200LX had a 486, it would be THE WORLD'S SMALLEST complete computer syste. It has video, storage, keyboard port to hook up a modem. > can it run Windows 95 and surf the Net, but it's also meant to be worn as a > fashion statement. > > Pratt's compact computer is a mere five square inches and four-fifths of an > inch thick, but brain-wise, it dwarfs many bigger personal digital > assistants. It contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor > and modem. I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think he's using a type III pcmcia? > > Then there is its other unusual feature: the ability to be worn as an > accessory. Pratt said one impetus behind his creation of the puny PC was to > make it wearable; it can be attached to a belt or necklace. > Easier to just stick it on the pocket. > The driving force behind the creation of the new computer, which Pratt is > temporarily calling the matchbox PC, involves advances in the world of > embedded computers. > > These are computers that manufacturers put into all manner of things big and > small, like toaster ovens, cars and even watches. Increasingly, Toaster oven? Really. What's it going to do, monitor the house? the creators > of these computers have found it difficult to find standard software to run > on them, so they have tried to make embedded computers compatible with PC > software, Pratt said. Gee, I think I'll go play a game on my toaster oven > -------- end quote > > Additional references: > http://www.jumptec.de/product/data/components/dimmpc486.html > http://www.pctvmag.com/tiny.html > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:29:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" In-Reply-To: <199903081625.PNR05193@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think he's using a > type III pcmcia? Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:37:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: <199904082133.OAA70168@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since... They're in production right now. (According to the people I know at IBM.) Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:09:46 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have used Diet under Win95. I can compress a file from the command line. Read it with an editor (via TSR), but not then rewrite it. So you can massage on Win95, if you use command line both ways. David Sargeant wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > > > Interesting --- I've been accustomed to variable bloat on converting > > CSV -> DBF, and have seen worse than 650KB->5MB; it all depends on how > > many variable-width fields you have in the table. I'm pretty sure DBF > > format is fixed-field-width only, and that's the lethal killer for > > space bloat. For instance, I just made a sample to play with; I > > started with: > > And that's why database files often compress quite well with software like > Jam and Stacker. Personally, if I ever get my multimegabyte GNIS > placename DBF files onto the palmtop, I'll load Jam or Stacker first so > space won't be heavily wasted. In fact, I'd have done this already, if I > could read a Jammed or Stacked flash card from Windows 98 on my desktop... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:25:09 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Jeff Johns Jeff Johns writes: > Rod, please, write us a good IRC client that will do DCC file transfers :) Jeff, I don't have the time or inclination to write an IRC client (I've never used IRC myself), but I am looking at an existing ICQ client to work with LXTCP. Easier to modify than create. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:45:29 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto Andreas Garzotto writes: > Frankly, I don't think this makes any difference. Everybody seems to > think that TCP/IP is *within* a packet driver. If it were, it would > make a difference because then indeed there would be a common interface > that TCP/IP based applications could use. But as it is, it does not > help that much more than running on the same OS helps. That's true. BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS. It seems to be the closest to a "common interface" that there is. > > Andreas, are you > > aware of the PKTMUX program, and do you know if WWW/LX in ethernet > > mode will run on top of PKTMUX ? > > I don't know PKTMUX. If it provides a standard packet driver interface, > WWW/LX should be able to run on top of it when set up for Ethernet. > What is PKTMUX? It allows you to multiplex multiple packet drivers apps onto the same packet driver. It was mainly used when people had multiple windows dos boxes open, and wanted to run a packet app in each window. Initial investigations show that it can do the same thing on the palmtop (i.e. allow WWW/LX and LXTCP to run off the same packet driver, or to allow LXFTP to run inside a shelled-out dos session in LXTELNET). > > allowing people to use the existing WatTCP based IRC client, as well > > as WWW/LX (obviously not at the same time, but certainly over the one > > phone connection without having to redial). > > Ah, now I see what you mean. You could use the same phone connection to > use the different packages one after the other. That should work, even > with EPPPD. But it takes more memory (namely the memory EPPPD needs, > because all that EPPPD is used for is built into WWW/LX and therefore > in memory twice). Except in the case where you are already using the packet driver anyway (when you are connected via ethernet). Then you've already got the memory overhead anyway. I can also envisage a network TSR that runs in the background doing FTP transfers while WWW/LX or a chat client is still operating in the foreground. Have you considered releasing an ethernet-only WWWLX.EXE ? > > still retaining the capabilities that I absolutely need on a daily > > basis to use my company firewall, and that only LXTCP provides. > > What are these utilities? LXNNTP (to connect to new.hplx.net daily through a firewall that only allows telnet connections to ports above 1024), an FTP server (to allow machines to FTP _to_ the palmtop and transfer files - used daily to mirror any changed files from the palmtop to the Unix desktop using the standard perl FTP site mirroring software), a ping responder (so the script on Unix can find out when the palmtop has come online and can automatically start the backup). In the future: an ICQ client to find out when colleagues are online, a WWW server on the palmtop, etc. > > you up on the offer above. I guess the sticking point is how much > > other people use the source code that I write (which I presume I would > > no longer be able to make public if it used the WWW/LX API). > > Yup. There just seem too many people (a few are enough) who seem to > have no other hobby than trying to abuse companies :-( > > I love free software, but you just cannot provide too much support for > it... Agreed on both points. I really wish people on this list would stop bashing the few palmtop companies that still exist. > > then I might as well base new programs (which could still > > be provided as freeware executables by D&A) on WWW/LX instead of > > WatTCP, and help make that suite of programs more complete > > Personally, I would find that very interesting. I dream of the day when TCP/IP connectivity is a TSR on the HP that I load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a modem or ethernet card in the socket, or when there is an IR or radio link available, and connects automatically to the nearest Internet connection (which will be absolutely everywhere in the future). Then I run WWW/LX in the foreground (with a background LXFTP process transferring files while I surf, and a background web server being accessed by others) and can switch to another session to telnet to another machine for a minute, and then go back to surfing where I left off. We have the technology and expertise to do all this - we just need to gather the technology, knowledge and effort into one virtual place. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:25:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Rod Whitby In-Reply-To: <199904082219.PAA53620@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote: > can automatically start the backup). In the future: an ICQ client to Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant. Dave Sargeant and I used it yesterday. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:22:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx In-Reply-To: <199903090745.PNR02926@hplx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote: > I dream of the day when TCP/IP connectivity is a TSR on the HP that I > load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a > modem or ethernet card in the socket, or when there is an IR or radio > link available, and connects automatically to the nearest Internet > connection (which will be absolutely everywhere in the future). You might want to check out the new editorial that Ian Butler put up on www.hplx.net last night. It's very similar. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:23:41 -0400 Reply-To: malkajef@orthohelp.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Malka Subject: HP 48 Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX? Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Malka ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:20:11 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Science formulas for solver--number limits Hello everyone Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum number size that can be used in solver? Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:10:49 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" David Sargeant writes: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > I wonder how much room the hard drive uses. Do you think he's using a > > type III pcmcia? > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since... Are these drives useable in a type II slot? How bad is the power consumption compared to a flash card? I thought about using a tpye III but the one I have uses .6 amp and I'd have to use a powered extender. Maybe, if the price was reasonable, these would be worth consideration. How is the speed compared to a flash card? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:48:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Database trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT David I downloaded Dataperfect but it doesn't seem like it's a complete version. The only files I have are data.msg dp.exe dp.sys dp26c.exe dpexp.com dpimp.com mcreate.com ste-mgr.com When I run the program it states that there are no files to import and there isn't even a help file. I searched the entire Dataperfect site and downloaded whatever was there. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:40:21 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP 48 Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com I have been wondering about this too!! If there isn't does anyone know what it would take to write one? I'd love to have the capibilites of the 48 on the 200!!! Jeff Malka writes: > Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX? > > Thanks. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Malka > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:49:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Nirody, Suresh" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nirody, Suresh" Subject: FW: A more powerful "200lx" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Is this the one at http://wearables.stanford.edu?? Supposed to be world's smallest web server - they have links to the manufacturer.... Suresh > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry N Zimmerman ÝSMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM¨ > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:49 AM > Subject: A more powerful "200lx" > > There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York > Times that might be of interest. > > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick. > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor > and modem." > > Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete > article. Registration for NYTimes online is free. > > Larry Zimmerman > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:37:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Hello again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe these folks have to make a living, i.e., eat, etc. Maybe I am missing something, but I thought that was the idea of a business. Maybe these guys, Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could get some government funding for their business -- either Federal, State or a large corporation that resembles government. Then the folks as Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could go out and get a government job and make a living, i.e., eat, and perhaps have an eight hour work day, paid vacation, large bank accounts all funded by my tax dollars. Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. > Bob Pigford > > > The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of > > "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money". > > Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support > > the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like > > Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform. > > So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best, > > they will chase me away from that list again. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:59:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Bill Childers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a place explaining where to get MICQ and WATTCP and setting them up for chatting on the palmtop? Thanks! Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Childers To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 3:25 PM Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Rod Whitby wrote: > > can automatically start the backup). In the future: an ICQ client to > > Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant. Dave Sargeant > and I used it yesterday. > > Bill Childers > South Valley Consulting > > -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a > rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:01:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <005101be8213$9a70b620$8b65140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote: > Is there a place explaining where to get MICQ and WATTCP and setting them up > for chatting on the palmtop? MICQ is available at http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/ The WATTCP stuff is similar to LxTCP, available from Rod Whitby's pageat http://tcp.hplx.net Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:05:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: HP100LX manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a 100LX manual or a lotus 1-2-3 manual lying around somewhere that they would be willing to sell? Or is the 1-2-3 manual somewhere in softcopy? Thanks! Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:10:18 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: FW: A more powerful "200lx" I'd be willing to bet it is Nirody, Suresh writes: > Is this the one at http://wearables.stanford.edu?? Supposed to be world's > smallest web server - they have links to the manufacturer.... > Suresh > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry N Zimmerman ÝSMTP:zimm4@JUNO.COM¨ > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:49 AM > > Subject: A more powerful "200lx" > > > > There is a small article in the Circuits section of the April 8 New York > > Times that might be of interest. > > > > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick. > > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a > > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor > > and modem." > > > > Go to http://www.nytimes.com in the Circuits section for the complete > > article. Registration for NYTimes online is free. > > > > Larry Zimmerman > > > > __________________________________________________________________ _ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:12:58 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Hello again I doubt its anywhere near that. > Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free. > There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. > > > Bob Pigford > > > > > The other thing that really annoys me on that list is the attitude of > > > "commercial developers only want profit and try to steal our money". > > > Frankly, I don't think that any of the existing companies that support > > > the 200LX would still exist if it were for profit. Companies like > > > Thaddeus, 1SPS, or D&A are driven by enthusiasm for a great platform. > > > So I will not participate in any discussions regarding prices. At best, > > > they will chase me away from that list again. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:01:04 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: HP 48 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about also, HP-41 and HP-42? Jeff Malka wrote: > Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX? > > Thanks. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Malka > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:11:26 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP100LX manual Thaddeus might have them. I think they sell manuals for about 15 dollars. Philippe Lewis writes: > Does anyone have a 100LX manual or a lotus 1-2-3 manual lying around > somewhere that they would be willing to sell? Or is the 1-2-3 manual > somewhere in softcopy? > > Thanks! > > Philippe :) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:30:06 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Database trouble Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > There was a nice fast little database program called Reflex which will run on an XT, has a small footprint (approx 100k), and will import/export to csv format. Borland created it. It is from the mid-1980s so may be available as copyrighted freeware (a > la Data Perfect). > As long as all of this database discussion, I'm still looking at a shelf that has Personal R:Base on it. Anyone recall that one. I think I remember not liking its too refined interface - I was an old dbaseII type of guy!!!! I wonder if it runs on a 200??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:54:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , davez Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: davez Subject: Re: HP 48 Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a DOS emulator called EMU48. You must legally own an HP48 to use it. It requires you to download the ROM from your HP48 in order to operate. I have used it in the past on a PC and it works well. I've never tried to put it on my 200lx though. I own two HP48's. You can find EMU48 and ALL kinds of '48 software at www.hpcalc.org Dave Zelkowski Jeff Malka wrote: > > Is there an emulation of the HP 48 that works on the 200 LX? > > Thanks. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Jeff Malka > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:29:42 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Shea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Re: HP 48 Comments: To: davez MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think this emu48 for DOS need at least a 386 to run. I'd tried it on my desktop, and got a gerenal protection fault msg, don't know why. Haven't tried it on my 200LX. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:23:30 EDT Reply-To: CSchlim@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schilm Subject: Re: Hello again funny Comments: To: bmeyer@union-tel.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/8/99 3:56:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM writes: << never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >> I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the 200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together. Cathy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:39:53 +0930 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Bill Childers , ian@hplx.net, david@hplx.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Bill Childers writes: > Rod, MICQ is already out there... it's WATTCP compliant. Dave Sargeant > and I used it yesterday. BTW, I just got the micq source code from the author. So if there's anything that doesn't work right on the HP, then we can probably fix it and send him the changes. Looks like he's sending in the dos changes to the main micq author as well, so the dos support should continue. It also has some initial code for a WatTCP TSR, so maybe that dream of a network TSR is a little closer. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:17:09 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daivd Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daivd Lawrence Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > David > I downloaded Dataperfect but it doesn't seem like it's a complete version. The > only files I have are > data.msg > dp.exe > dp.sys > dp26c.exe > dpexp.com > dpimp.com > mcreate.com > ste-mgr.com > When I run the program it states that there are no files to import and there > isn't even a help file. I searched the entire Dataperfect site and downloaded > whatever was there. > Tony DP.EXE is the DataPerfect program, you only need that and DP.SYS to run Press F3 for help. The other files are external utilities for import/export/upgrade/etc... HTH ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:20:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Thomas A. Frank" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Thomas A. Frank" Subject: Cases for the LX In-Reply-To: <199904090402.AAA13988@mail-relay4.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello All; Ah, a subject I can give good advice on. Check out: http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/home.mhtml?shop=casetech They are a Canadian company that makes the nicest HARD leather case for the LX I have ever seen. The model I bought was the 207-HP200LX. It is a perfect fit for the computer, snug even. The leather is very similar to holster leather, so it should last virtually forever. The case holds the computer tight enough that if you drop it in the case (with the lid snapped closed), the impact comes across as a shock load instead of cracking the plastic of the computer. Mine has protected my computer several times. Very nice, and at $50 canadian, with the exchange rate to USD, it worked out to about $40 with the shipping when I got it. I have no connection to the company, other than as a happy customer. Tom Frank ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:49:09 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: GOOD BY HP200LX HELLO HP95LX MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello all HPLX'S: I know all of you think I Am out of my mind,but I am selling my HP200LX 5 MB Just upgraded by Thaddeus Computing in FEB 9,1999 It's in excellent condition with four (4) 1350 Mah Nickel Metal Hydride batteries and ABC/LX bATTERY Monitoring Software for $375.00. The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128 dots) on my HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small for me. Let Me Know People Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:29:49 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: (fwd) Ý-Best-Joke¨ Spelling poem. Comments: To: rossl@nait.ab.ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Spelling poem. Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly Marx four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Aye strike a key and type a word And weight fore it to say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite Its rarely ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased too no Its letter perfect in it=92s weigh My chequer tolled me sew. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:13:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rod Whitby wrote: > That's true. BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the > Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS. Does that exist? Never heard about that. > Have you considered releasing an ethernet-only WWWLX.EXE ? We are discussing releasing special versions of WWW/LX with or w/o support for Ethernet, IrDA, Debugging etc. Problem is that there are so many combinations. Also I assume that Ethernet-only is the least demanded version. > > What are these utilities? > > LXNNTP (to connect to new.hplx.net daily through a firewall that only > allows telnet connections to ports above 1024), an FTP server (to > allow machines to FTP _to_ the palmtop and transfer files - used daily > to mirror any changed files from the palmtop to the Unix desktop using > the standard perl FTP site mirroring software), a ping responder (so > the script on Unix can find out when the palmtop has come online and > can automatically start the backup). In the future: an ICQ client to > find out when colleagues are online, a WWW server on the palmtop, etc. NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to PING: WWW/LX responds to PING requests since the very first release Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course. For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using the palmtop as client. IRC: well... > load up before software carousel, and that is aware of when I plug a > modem or ethernet card in the socket, I would really love if the driver I use with the Accton card did not need to be reloaded when the card is changed :-( > We have the technology and expertise to do all this But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient for most stuff, but not at the same time. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:48:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Scheffler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Scheffler Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <026001be813a$ce662700$8b65140a@siebel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, how about someone get in touch with the author of TinyFugue (a UNIX MU* client which can be configured to negotiate IRC as well) and see about a DOS port? It may be too big, though. At 02:08 PM 04/07/1999 -0700, you wrote: >So Avi, how about asking the people on the list if they would be willing to >pay for an IRC client (or any other client), and how much? This way you >would get the general idea and be able to make a more informed decision. > >Philippe :) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: A Meshar >To: >Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 12:15 AM >Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx > > >> > > Correct. We do not have a CHAT client. It was looked at and >> > > we felt it was a lot of work, and that we could not >> > > recapture the expense of it. So we did not develop it. We >> > >> > It sure would be nice (hint, hint, hint) to have a IRC client that was a >> > PAL application for use on the LX. I use ircII a lot but a PAL >> > application sure would be slick! >> >> I am sure this will look familiar - :) ... >> >> It was looked at and we felt it was a lot of work, and >> that we could not recapture the expense of it. So we did >> not develop it. >> >> Slick is good. But when I have to pay people to support >> slick which I sold for $2.99 or less, I think I'll pass! :) >> I am sure you see the point. I suspect I would be tarred >> and feathered by our bargain hunters here if an IRC client >> was offered at $35 or $50 a pop. But before you all jump >> down my throat, you must first "walk a mile in my shoes" as >> was wiasely suggested by someone here. I suggested before >> that we can probably cooperate with someone who would step >> up to the plate with a serious plan, but no one did. >> >> Avi M. ÝD&A¨ >> >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > R. James Scheffler -and- Srakkt-Hrairh ****************** "Do you like your spleen? I can make a nice little hat of it for you." -Srakkt-Hrairh http://www.tiac.net/users/srakkt/ E-mail:srakkt@tiac.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:37:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: Alchemist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dan, > >Just because we can make > >little atom bombs doesn't make it feasible to have atom-powered cars. > > Now thats a scary thought. I can almost live with that fear. Where I really go into panic is the notion that these cars (and perhaps the atomic piles in them) are WinCE controlled! :( _That_ gives me the wheelies... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:37:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: Bob Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob, > Maybe these folks have to make a living, i.e., eat, etc. Maybe I am missing > something, but I thought that was the idea of a business. > > Maybe these guys, Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could get some government funding for their > business -- either Federal, State or a large corporation that resembles > government. Then the folks as Thaddeus, D&A, etc. could go out and get a > government job and make a living, i.e., eat, and perhaps have an eight hour work > day, paid vacation, large bank accounts all funded by my tax dollars. > > Aw, never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in for free. > There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. It is easier! We get out bbefore we go broke, if that point comes. Then we buy an IBM PC110 (I just got one the other day) and we run Microsoft stuff on it, and kiss off the HP 200LX and the community that could not get their wits to support the platform :) .... But when I get out of this I know a nice cool mountain to go live on, with breathtkaing vistas, nice people around me, uncomplicated lifestyle, less email, less Windows Bloat... Life could be nice. Then again a good government job would be nice too - I looked at one recently in Oregon - I could not believe the money they were paying, it was right up my alley, and it is a job for the State of Oregon, I mean a government job... I really had to control myself, take a shower and go answer email... :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:37:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Windows 3 on palmtop Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, > different architecture is a pretty optimisitic proposition, given how most > of us are such tightwads (as Avi and Hal can attest to) . I think that each of us has to make the micro-economic decision based on the individual need and means. This is not necessarily being a tightwad in a negative sense, just a personal decision. When you take these many personal decisions as an aggregate, you have a complete view of what is realistic to do in the market. Thei is "the Voice of the Market". The rest is simply coupling the message from the market with the "beancounting" work of what it takes to bring this to market, and the expected return, and all that and the answer is very simple - do it or not do it. In all honesty, I would be interested in an IRC because it is fun (for about an hour), but I would not pay for it enough to make me want to take such an app to the market :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:03:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx In-Reply-To: <199904090613.IAA21698@if0010.swisslife.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course. > For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using > the palmtop as client. I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily. No such client exists (yet? ) for the palmtop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:11:02 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: GOOD BY HP200LX HELLO HP95LX In-Reply-To: <370D86C5.7040@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, bob1 wrote: Bob1, before you do something rash ;-) you may consider this: > The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128 > dots) on my > HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small > for me. On the 200LX, you can alter the size of the text by using the zoom modes. Just press Fn+SPACE. One of the modes is quite similar to the one on the 95LX and may be what you want. There are also custom fonts for the 200LX that can make the screen much more readable. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:26:09 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: FLUFF: Soup kitchen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in >>for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >> Cathy wrote: >I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the >200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together. Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC? And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL? and this thread could run and run... Sorry! Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:45:06 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Anyone wants to sell his SC? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, is there anyone who wants to sell his license and copy of (used) Software Carousel (latest version)? GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:35:23 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Hi-efficiency LEDs - for IR? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in infrared LEDs recently? If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we could use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that might be a useful upgrade... TIA to all up-to-date component engineers, Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:51:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Orin Keplinger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Orin Keplinger Subject: Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John: I'm not aware of anything with 200lx, but both HP and TI had excellent newsletters and program cards devised by users for The TI 52 and the HP 35/55 and maybe the HP 48 and later models. Also, Chemical Engineering News had a calculator column that was very useful. My information is all circa 1974-1990. I haven't checked lately. Orin ---------- > From: John Musielewicz > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Science formulas for solver--number limits > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:20 AM > > Hello everyone > > Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations > for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that > someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket > thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum > number size that can be used in solver? Thanks > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the > palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily. > No such client exists (yet? ) for the palmtop. I see. An alternative using existing tools for WWW/LX could be a ROBOT/LX script that collects a list of all files on the palmtop that have changed (DOS call to DIR with corresponnding parameters) and then run ftp put commands for each of those files. Should be fairly simple to write. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:17:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Anyone wants to sell his SC? Do I get to make a profit? Sorry just couldn't resist, I can't sell my palmtop copy but I do have an old DOS copy. I got it to install on my desktop but I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in task switching and multitasking so I don't need it. Would you be interested in that? Daniel Hertrich writes: > Hi, > > is there anyone who wants to sell his license and copy > of (used) Software Carousel (latest version)? > > GTX > daniel > > ------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Hertrich > Germany > email: d.hertrich@gmx.de > ------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:18:41 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: FLUFF: Soup kitchen Jez Cunningham writes: > >>never mind, forget all this, just let them put their eight hours in > >>for free. There should be a local soup kitchen in their town. >> > > Cathy wrote: > >I am sitting here thinking of them sitting in the soup kitchen with the > >200LX's playing solitare..... somehow it doesn't fit together. > > Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC? Maybe with a little JAM throwen in? Couldn't resist > > And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL? > > and this thread could run and run... > > Sorry! > Jez > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:20:03 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Hi-efficiency LEDs - for IR? Jez Cunningham writes: > There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs > for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in infrared > LEDs recently? If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we could > use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that might > be a useful upgrade... The IR uses a differant type of LED. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:26:53 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits Comments: To: Orin Keplinger Thank you Orin! Would you know how I could go about getting these newsletters? John Orin Keplinger writes: > John: > > I'm not aware of anything with 200lx, but both HP and TI had excellent > newsletters and program cards devised by users for The TI 52 and the HP > 35/55 and maybe the HP 48 and later models. Also, Chemical Engineering News > had a calculator column that was very useful. My information is all circa > 1974-1990. I haven't checked lately. > Orin > > ---------- > > From: John Musielewicz > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Subject: Science formulas for solver--number limits > > Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 10:20 AM > > > > Hello everyone > > > > Does anyone know if there are databases of science equations > > for solver floating around anywhere? Maybe something that > > someone has used to calculate the momentum of photons, rocket > > thrust--that sort of thing. Also does anyone know the maximum > > number size that can be used in solver? Thanks > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:20:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Ricochet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Recently we posted an updated version of WWW.EXE and one of several benefits is that Ricochet modems work fine now. I sent personal emails to some of you who have expressed interest in the subject. So first: Well? Did you all try it and did it a) work, b) not work c) just sat there laughing and telling great jokes so I don't care if it worked or not... Second item: I want to let you know that I have a press release that states that as of April 6 several parts of Brooklyn and Manhattan are covered by Ricochet. This adds to the coverage in the La Guardia airport, and someone said Also down to New Jersey's Newark. See http://www.ricochet.net/news/news990406.html. Let's see: NYC coverage - NY City hall, Financial District, Times Square, Theatre district, and parts of Brooklyn Metrotech area. They have a specific area description: Manhattan: -- Midtown/Time Sq (from 39th st. north to Central Park South, from FDR Drive on the East to Ninth Ave.) -- Downtoawn/Financial Dist (the entire southern tip of Manhattan, from Park Pl/Chambers St. to Battery Park.) Brooklyn: -- Metrotech/Downtown (parts of Cobble Hill, Boerum Hill, Park Slope) -- Canarsie/E. Flatbush -- Greenpoint So I wanna know this: If they dropped the price of the modem will you email to me that you want one and I can get you some other better deal? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:20:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Well, which is it? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This came to me in email tonight... I _did_ send a special copy to Andreas - an early Birthday present... :) Reminds me of Jewish curse: "May a terrible disease be named after you!" :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ---------- Subject: MS RE: "MS" not a software company? API: Rio Despico, CA -- Residents of Silicon Valley are more confused than usual after a billboard campaign by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society of America. One of the ads uses the slogan "MS: It's not a software company," exploiting the fame of that certain company to draw attention to an altogether worthier cause. Requests to comment on the campaign have been met by a surly silence by Microsoft, which doesn't relish the association of ideas. Painfully aware that it can't afford to appear insensitive over such an issue, a Microsoft spokesman finally breached the company's former "no comment" policy, stating, "I see no relationship whatsoever between the two acronyms... The MS Society seems to have thrown all common sense out of a window with this campaign." Off the record, a disgruntled Microsoft engineer told API reporters that Seasoned IT professionals will have no trouble telling the two MS's apart. One is a debilitating and surprisingly widespread affliction that renders the sufferer barely able to perform the simplest task. The other is a disease. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:30:51 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Cripps Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Cripps Subject: Minix on the Palmtop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Dear all, I just want to report on my sucess running Minix on the HP and thank Mack Baggette for doing all the hard work for getting it working. I downloaded the zip file from minix.hplx.net unzipped it to a jam'ed 20MB flash card, which gave 50MB of compressed storage. From DOS I typed "Boot Minix.mnx" and the propeller heads in Unix support are now dribbling with excitment! (I've just heard one of them cry "there's is a C compiller - and it works!!"), another has just added a new users and a user group as I type! I've also managed to load it under a session in Software Carousel with a minix.bat file, unfortuantely even loading SCKEYFIX.COM does not enable me to switch SC sessions. The problem I have now is how to exit Minix without rebooting the machine, and how to switch between SC sessions. All the best, I m now out to buy "UNIX for dummies"! Dave Cripps ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:16:22 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Minix on the Palmtop > I just want to report on my sucess running Minix on the HP and Cool! > >From DOS I typed "Boot Minix.mnx" and the propeller heads in Unix > support are now dribbling with excitment! (I've just heard one I'll bet they were! of > them cry "there's is a C compiller - and it works!!"), another has > just added a new users and a user group as I type! > > I've also managed to load it under a session in Software Carousel > with a minix.bat file, unfortuantely even loading SCKEYFIX.COM does > not enable me to switch SC sessions. > > The problem I have now is how to exit Minix without rebooting the Can you use SCMENU to "kill" the SC session? > machine, and how to switch between SC sessions. > > All the best, I m now out to buy "UNIX for dummies"! > > Dave Cripps > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:26:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: FLUFF: Soup kitchen Comments: To: Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC? Or a DOS port of a shopping cart? :) (I _can_ use a diet, though...) > And I suppose after Jeff had locked up Mack he'd be running FREECELL? Nice one!! > and this thread could run and run... Yep can become a run time litany... :( Sorry too! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:45:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lfeldman@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Feldman Subject: Re: Minix on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I too have been playing with Minix, and it IS fun. But a question. Can someone tell me how to make a smaller partition? Can I "shrink" the existing one? I really want to get it over to the palmtop - but don't have the full 40 meg free. Thanks! Larry Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:23:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:00:21 -0700 > From: David Sargeant > Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? > > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote: > > > I know it is of questionable legality to buy "preowned" software. My > > opinion is that if you are selling the CD plus supporting material, it > > should be OK. > > I don't think it's of questionable legality. In fact, I believe that > selling the software is specifically allowed in the licenses of most > software. Of course, if you keep a copy, then you're illegal... > That includes a copy of the later version you upgraded to. If you do an _upgrade_, instead of an outright new buy, you're *NOT* OK selling the older version. Upgrading transfers your license from the old to the new version, so you don't have any license for the old one to do *anything* with except skeet shooting :{)# The only way you could *legally* sell a copy of an old package is if you discontinued all use of it, and destroyed all other copies in your possession. Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:27:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:00:51 -0500 > From: "Stanley, John L." > Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" > > Following article quoted from the NYTimes web site without permission...: Uh-Oh! Get out the cuffs, Jeff!!! Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:31:24 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey folks, It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my backup 200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with the map CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done. If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both speed and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM". Again, email me directly. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:33:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Thaddeus connection troubles? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.thaddeus.com seems to be either down or very slow. This will effect page loading at palmtop.net (due to their banner ads loading from their server) and will also effect direct-click file downloading as the files are on one of their servers. Most, but not all, of the SUPER files still reside at ftp.palmtop.net so if you MUST have something it is probably there. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:15:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: New X-Finder .. Good news/bad news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:58:07 -0500 (EST) Greetings fellow X-Finder freaks 8-) Just found a new version of X-Finder on the Vector site. Bad news is that it's incompatible with our finder.env and it's about 5K larger. Tried it on my 200 and crashed (needed hard reboot). Looked through the files again, and noticed that the /Palmtop screen setup isn't in the .env file -- there's a palmtop.lzh file. Anyway, I tried installing it again (this time on the spare palmtop), and found some cool new stuff. It now has the ability to use a split screen display, sort of like Filer (or STS). GUI on the left, text on the right. (Maybe this can be changed). Should be more convenient for moving and copying files. Not sure what other surprises it may have (docs are Japanese, of course), but I'll play around and try to find out. Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:39:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <03c201be8149$d0fc3d60$8b65140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Landmark 2.00 is a commercial, paid for, program. I just happen to own it. This was sold by Landmark Software, now owned by ForeFront. I don't know if you can still buy it, but I wouldn't expect that it's Abandonware. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Philippe Lewis > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 6:56 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) > > > Where's the Landmark benchmark program? > > Philippe :) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:48:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? Comments: To: Jon Barrett MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Barrett wrote: > > > That includes a copy of the later version you upgraded to. If you > do an _upgrade_, instead of an outright new buy, you're *NOT* OK > selling the older version. Upgrading transfers your license from > the old to the new version, so you don't have any license for the > old one to do *anything* with except skeet shooting :{)# > The only way you could *legally* sell a copy of an old package is > if you discontinued all use of it, and destroyed all other copies > in your possession. > > Jon > Jon Barrett > Including, I think, _all_ copies on any backup medium that you happen to possess. Can you imagine _anyone_ re-writing all of thier ancient backups to remove something? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:58:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mihlo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mihlo Subject: Re: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 300 $ or trade a 360 LX +10 mo card + 28800 modem -----Message d'origine----- De : Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) =C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date : vendredi 9 avril 1999 15:36 Objet : FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed >Hey folks, > >It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my bac= kup >200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with = the map >CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done. > >If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both speed >and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent >condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM". > >Again, email me directly. >-- >Mitch >SUPER Team > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:58:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only > access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient > for most stuff, but not at the same time. Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's from EMS as well. All you need do is install some stub code in lower memory that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using the proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then restore the page map. Of course the biggest program you could run would be 128k with the current version that I am testing and 64k with the public version, but that should be sufficient for a large number of TSR type apps such as what is being discussed here. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Minix on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I too have been playing with Minix, and it IS fun. But a question. Can > someone tell me how to make a smaller partition? Can I "shrink" the > existing one? I really want to get it over to the palmtop - but don't > have the full 40 meg free. Below is a link that has a good bit more info about MINIX: ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/2.0.2/index.html Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:32:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's > that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using the > proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then restore > the page map. I don't know what happened to the 2nd line of my message, but the paragraph above should read: Actually, I think most folks forget about the fact that you can run TSR's from EMS as well. All you need do is install some stub code in lower memory that swaps in the pages that contain the TSR code, call that code using the proper EMS function, and then once you return to the stub code then restore the page map. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:10:02 GMT Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Organization: Completely Disorganized Subject: Re: Minix on the palmtop! Comments: To: Mack Baggette In-Reply-To: <00f801be8064$3446e960$0400a8c0@times2tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:32:25 -0500, you wrote: >I was finally able to get MINIX going on the palmtop a few weeks ago and am >currently working with David Sargeant on finding a home for the rather large >zip file. Too cool, hope to see it somewhere soon... About how large is the installation? I only have a 8M machine, but would like to at least see it once.. :) >Someone should be able to make a smaller partition to have MINIX on without >the source code, etc. as I haven't done that. It works fine from the C: >drive or from flash, so that should be a problem. I need to get myself a CF card some day, I'd love to upgrade to 32M but with my hinge crack I don't think I will.. :( -- Walter R Francis http://wally.hplx.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:27:59 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ALAN KREMPLER Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ALAN KREMPLER Subject: EMS driver for upgraded HP200 In-Reply-To: <002901be8299$7e4dfd00$0400a8c0@times2tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi experts! i have been using the emm200 driver for a long time, but it does not work any more since i upgraded my unit to 5mb. i suspect that the driver is written for a paging file on a 12 bit FAT system, but the FAT of the now larger disk is 16 bit. are any upgraded versions out there? is anyone successfully using EMS on a 4 or 5 mb unit? tell me what you kmow alan ALAN KREMPLER alias alan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:47:33 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Louis Di Fazio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Louis Di Fazio Subject: VGA Display Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know if there is any software out there to fool other software that the 200lx is capable of being in a VGA mode? Thanks, Louis Di Fazio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:50 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > a job for the State of Oregon, I mean a government job... I > really had to control myself, take a shower and go answer Move to Oregon and the shower is right out the door!!! Signed: One who knows from Seattle!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:43:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Childers wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash > > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw > > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since... > > They're in production right now. (According to the people I know at IBM.) > > Bill Childers > South Valley Consulting > No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken? -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:20:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactF= lash > > > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I = saw > > > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them = since... > > No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken? Doubtful. Current consumption is probably going to be a problem. I doubt that it will draw under the 150ma required by the PC Card slot. Standard PCMCIA drives draw around 600ma... this will probably have power consumption of around 300ma or so. Spinning any kind of platter/motor combination takes quite a bit of current! Flash disks are the way to go in a handheld, IMHO. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting Gilroy, CA -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN. A rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:55:37 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Missing my 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob1 wrote; >> The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128 dots) on my HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small for me.>> Athough there are some great improvements in the 200lx, which I now own, there are things which I preferred on my 95LX: 1. In phone you just pressed 'only' and typed in 'John', for example, and instantly all the records with John would appear. On the 200lx I first have to define a subset and then it still takes a while before they appear. 2. In solver the equation editor didn't add a space when the line wrapped, now in the 200lx it does it rather annoyingly. 3. Generally, all searches were much quicker in the 95lx. Anyone want to add to the list? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:34:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: New X-Finder .. Good news/bad news Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:15:06 -0400, Peniel Romanelli = wrote: > Greetings fellow X-Finder freaks 8-) > > Just found a new version of X-Finder on the Vector site. Bad news is > that it's incompatible with our finder.env and it's about 5K larger. > Tried it on my 200 and crashed (needed hard reboot). Looked through > the files again, and noticed that the /Palmtop screen setup isn't in > the .env file -- there's a palmtop.lzh file. Great find! Whats the URL? also confirming it now uses a .lzh file instead of a .env? Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:59:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Minix on the palmtop Just tried it. 'wow!' is the first word that comes to mind. Now all we have to do is get it working with the Accton card... If that happens, this will really kick ass! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:58:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Albert.Kind@uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> No, actually I am saying that TSRs can be written to utilize EMM for code and data. I did see a product a long time ago that could load certain TSRs that it knew about like Sidekick into EMM, but I don't remember what it was called. Unfortunately it wasn't generic. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:07:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: New X-Finder .. Good news/bad news Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:48:29 -0400 (EDT) 01h13m32s ago ... On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > Great find! Whats the URL? > also confirming it now uses a .lzh file instead of a .env? Hi Qman - The URL is: http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/ The file is finder.lzh (dated 3/26/99) No, it doesn't use a .lzh instead of .env It uses a .env that's different from the version we're using. The .env doesn't have all the %d lines to set up the /Palmtop screen. There's a palmtop.lzh that gets expanded into c:\palmtop - and this has the opening screen setup. The command format is completely different from our current version. I'm not sure I see the logic behind this change. Each item for the /Palmtop screen is a separate file in c:\palmtop. At 512 bytes disk space per item (typically 3 - 15 bytes each), the disk usage isn't particularly efficient. But with big c: drives I guess it doesn't really matter. The split screen feature is cool, though. Does make it simpler to copy or move stuff... I'm just getting started playing around with this, so I'm sure there's lots of good stuff I'm missing. Let me know what you figure out. Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:37:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Infrared LED plugged in the serial port? Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, whatever the led is being used right now, is there a more powerful version out there? Hey, doesn't that relate somehow to the thread about the serial LED-lite we've been talking about all this time? What if instead of a bright led to illuminate the screen, you had an infrared LED capable of acting like a remote control LED? Hey, how about both in the same package? And wouldn't it be possible to write a little program to pulse the commands out of the serial port? Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: John Musielewicz To: Sent: Thursday, April 08, 1999 6:20 PM Subject: Re: Hi-efficiency LEDs - for IR? > Jez Cunningham writes: > > There has been a lot of discussion about high-brightness/efficiency LEDs > > for screen illumination - but have there been similar advances in infrared > > LEDs recently? If we could replace the IR transmitter LED so that we could > > use the TV remote control software from more than 3 feet away, that might > > be a useful upgrade... > > The IR uses a differant type of LED. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:02:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Everybody - I have written a new System Manager compliant program using the LXAPI files and the SDK from Thaddeus. I have uploaded it to SUPER for your perusal. I am pleased with the product. I liked InfoSelect, but thought that I could make something with almost as much capability in the System Manager interface. My goals were: 1. InfoSelect type of functionality, though Y2K compliant. 2. Small program size (Currently < 14K). 3. Familiar Interface. I think I have succeeded in each of these areas. The program will search for strings, doing on the fly searches of each note, and display all the notes that match a particular string. It will search for a particular date, or a date range, with the "date" of a note being annotated with two astericks (**19-Mar-99). You can do logical searches through successive application of the Search Function: If you wanted all the notes that had Chevy & Porsche, but not Corvair, you can do so. You can import files into a note, and export a note to a file. Cut, Paste, Copy, Date, Time, and Zoom all work within the editor. You can search for a given string within a note while you are editing it. Notes can be up to 32K in size, though I will admit that by using the built in multi line editor function, this gets slow once the note gets above 5K or so. To mitigate this, I provide a simple interface to Memo as well. You can have up to 250 entries per file, with 400 lines of text maximum in each note. You can have as many different files as you like. FFDB.ZIP (on SUPER) has the following: FFDB.EXM - the program FFDB.HLP - The help file for the program (goes in c:\_dat) DEMO.FDB - a short demonstration database to further show how to use the program. I would like to thank Jorgen Walgren and James Grenert of the HPLX list for providing me with excellent ideas and feedback. The program is much more useful thanks to their input. If you have tried InfoSelect, or Scraps, or something along those lines and it didn't seem quite right for the HPLX, I recommend FFDB to you for = your review. I hope you find it useful. When I originally posted it, I had asked for a $20 shareware fee. Mitch = recommended $10, so I updated the file and reposted it. If you decide to = register, the fee is $10 - I apologize for the "head fake" on the initial = posting. Brian McIlvaine ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:38:52 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: IBM Compact HD > > > > > Could be one of IBM's CompactDrives. A 340MB hard drive in CompactFlash > > > Type II (twice as thick as your average CF card) size... Hal and I saw > > > those at Comdex, although I haven't seen anything about them since... > > > > They're in production right now. (According to the people I know at IBM.) > > > > Bill Childers > > South Valley Consulting > > > > No way of using these on the hp200 is it? Or am I mistaken? > > -- > Med vennlig hilsen/Regards They should work just fine in a type II pcmcia adaptor, they look just like a big flash card (ATA). The only problem with the HP might be power, I don't know what the current draw for the CF HD is. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:21:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Wireless HPLX? Check this out. http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00000575/01700791.htm It's a 900MHZ modem extender thingy for 9 bux. Probably more before the auction is over. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:30:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX Comments: To: Brian McIlvaine In-Reply-To: <19990409200221.KMWF21216@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Brian I wish you hadn't posted this! I am a long time IS (basic and not power) user, and the mention of an almost equivalent, System Manager compliant, program got me excited. I had set aside this afternoon to clean my home office of its piles of paper, but I had to stop what I was doing, download the program, and install it on my HP. I took a quick look and you will be getting my registration. It is great to be able to cut and paste between built in apps, and use them in a more integrated way than I can do currently with IS. Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet). Secondly, I installed the program on my flashcard in a FFDB directory. I tried accessing the help file and the program appears to require it to be in the c:\_dat directory. Is that correct? Is the directory modifiable? Thanks again for putting in the time to write the program. It is one more reason to save some money to finally upgrade my HP100 1 meg to a more up to date unit. Alan At 08:02 PM 4/9/99 +0000, you wrote: >Hey Everybody - > >I have written a new System Manager compliant program using the LXAPI >files and the SDK from Thaddeus. I have uploaded it to SUPER for your >perusal. I am pleased with the product. I liked InfoSelect, but thought >that I could make something with almost as much capability in the >System Manager interface. My goals were: > >1. InfoSelect type of functionality, though Y2K compliant. >2. Small program size (Currently < 14K). >3. Familiar Interface. > >I think I have succeeded in each of these areas. The program will >search for strings, doing on the fly searches of each note, and >display all the notes that match a particular string. It will >search for a particular date, or a date range, with the "date" of a >note being annotated with two astericks (**19-Mar-99). You can do >logical searches through successive application of the Search >Function: If you wanted all the notes that had Chevy & Porsche, but >not Corvair, you can do so. You can import files into a note, and >export a note to a file. Cut, Paste, Copy, Date, Time, and Zoom all >work within the editor. You can search for a given string within a >note while you are editing it. Notes can be up to 32K in size, though >I will admit that by using the built in multi line editor function, >this gets slow once the note gets above 5K or so. To mitigate this, I >provide a simple interface to Memo as well. You can have up to 250 >entries per file, with 400 lines of text maximum in each note. You can >have as many different files as you like. > >FFDB.ZIP (on SUPER) has the following: >FFDB.EXM - the program >FFDB.HLP - The help file for the program (goes in c:\_dat) >DEMO.FDB - a short demonstration database to further show how to >use the program. > >I would like to thank Jorgen Walgren and James Grenert of the HPLX list >for providing me with excellent ideas and feedback. The program is much >more useful thanks to their input. > >If you have tried InfoSelect, or Scraps, or something along those lines >and it didn't seem quite right for the HPLX, I recommend FFDB to you for your >review. I hope you find it useful. > >When I originally posted it, I had asked for a $20 shareware fee. Mitch >recommended $10, so I updated the file and reposted it. If you decide to >register, the fee is $10 - I apologize for the "head fake" on the initial >posting. > >Brian McIlvaine > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:12:33 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fwd: Ricochet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Recently we posted an updated version of WWW.EXE and one of > several benefits is that Ricochet modems work fine now. ... > So I wanna know this: If they dropped the price of the > modem will you email to me that you want one and I can get > you some other better deal? :) Avi, I'm interested. First tell me about Ricochet; is it a flat rate per month? ...or per hour or minute? Is there a max connect time limit? What is the connection speed. I'm pretty sure they're available in the San Jose/SF South Bay area. Were you joking about getting a deal on a modem and connection? Tell me more... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:48:00 -0500 Reply-To: rmarkmcd@flash.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark McDonald Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- R. Mark McDonald (817) 797-4623 mobile/voicemail rmarkmcd@flash.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:07:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Re: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain BTW, you might want to check out these web pages for good prices on the III+... http://www.thegpsstore.com/ga3p.htm http://www.cycoactive.com/gps/gpsiii.html http://www.skydiversdepot.com/gpsiiiplus.htm ... John L. Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) Ýmailto:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨ Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 8:31 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed Hey folks, It's time for me to have one of those new Garmin GPS III+. Sadly, my backup 200LX will have to go so my wife will allow it. If you have a III+ with the map CD-ROM and would like to trade even, just email me and we'll get it done. If you are interested in purchasing the 200LX, I want $475 for it. Both speed and memory upgrades were done by Mack at Times2Tech. It is in excellent condition. The motherboard is a 1MB even though the case says "2MB RAM". Again, email me directly. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:09:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Re: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Opps... Sorry folks. That was suppost to go just to Mitch... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:48:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: FS or Trade: 200LX 32MB Double Speed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain No problem here. I like GPS and could use one with my HP too. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Stanley, John L. ÝSMTP:JLStanley@ADDCOINC.COM¨ > > Opps... Sorry folks. That was suppost to go just to Mitch... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:35:50 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Calculator simulations Hello I went to www.hpcalc.org and found some emulators. The ones for a HP 48 required a 486. There also was one for a 41 and a 25. They both at least will run on the LX. Don't know how well the keyboaerd will work. Has anyone used either or the actual calculator? Could you give a short description of them? The info for the 41 is in what looks like Spanish. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Problems with DosMinix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Some problems I've noticed is that once I load DosMinix: 1) The ÝOn¨ button no longer turns off the palmtop. 2) Ctrl-alt-del no longer reboots. 3) The only way of exiting appears to be a hard reboot. (Ctrl-shift-On) Anyone have any suggestions? Anyone notice any other problems? -- John L. Stanley Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:12:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix Comments: To: "Stanley, John L." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some problems I've noticed is that once I load DosMinix: > 1) The ÝOn¨ button no longer turns off the palmtop. > 2) Ctrl-alt-del no longer reboots. > 3) The only way of exiting appears to be a hard reboot. > (Ctrl-shift-On) > > Anyone have any suggestions? > Anyone notice any other problems? The version from http://minix.hplx.net handles all those things properly. I forgot to mention that the Minix for the LX only works on a 200LX so far, as it makes a bios call that is moved around for different versions of the bios and I have it working for only a couple of bios versions of the 200LX. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:42:16 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto Andreas Garzotto writes: > Rod Whitby wrote: > > That's true. BTW, when designing the WWW/LX API, did you look at the > > Tumpet ABI for TCP/IP on DOS. > > Does that exist? Never heard about that. I'll try and dig up a URL for you. I've got the hardcopy here in front of me - it's a file named tcp201.txt titled "Preliminary Specification for a TCP/IP Application Binary Inteface (ABI) to run over MS-DOS. It'll be under www.trumpet.com (or .org or something) somewhere. It's much like a packet driver (it even has a TCP_DRVR interrupt validation marker) except at the TCP/IP level instead of the Ethernet level. The trumpet range of DOS internet apps all use the same TSR for the TCP/IP stack - much the same idea as www.exe except as a stand-alone TSR. > NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to The trouble is that the firewall requires a login-type authentication in a telnet session before accepting another telnet command to get outside. I had to modify LXNNTP to do all this over the telnet connection before piggy-backing the NNTP protocol over the existing telnet connection. It can't be done just by changing the destination port, unfortunately. A very weird and specific situation, but it could luckily be solved because I could change the source code. > Servers: funny applications for a palmtop, but interesting of course. > For backing up the palmtop: why not doing it the other way, i.e. using > the palmtop as client. Mainly because the mirror perl script (which determines which files should be mirrored) runs too slowly (if at all) on the palmtop. This is the standard mirror script that FTP sites like ftp.uu.net use to keep ftp mirrors up to date. I can also use it to preview web pages stored on the palmtop but destined for my web site by accessing them directly from the desktop web browser (ftp://hp200lx/c/www/index.htm). The other reason is I can run Emacs on the Unix box, and edit files on the palmtop directly through the Emacs ftp interface. It's just like connecting a keyboard and 17" monitor to the palmtop if all you're doing is editing. There are so many uses for FTP and HTTP connectivity that we need to have servers for these protocols running on the palmtop. > I would really love if the driver I use with the Accton card did not > need to be reloaded when the card is changed :-( Amen! Does anyone know if we can get the source code to the japanese Accton driver ? I'm sure that Mack or Stefan would be able to modify it to go into standby and reload when required (it sounds like a combination of card.com from Stefan and the bios message killer from Mack). > > We have the technology and expertise to do all this > > But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only > access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient > for most stuff, but not at the same time. But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client things by human multi-tasking. Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-) -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:55:06 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto Andreas Garzotto writes: > I see. An alternative using existing tools for WWW/LX could be a > ROBOT/LX script that collects a list of all files on the palmtop that > have changed (DOS call to DIR with corresponnding parameters) and then > run ftp put commands for each of those files. Should be fairly simple > to write. ROBOT/LX is a great program (I've often thought of a similar idea applied to HTML forms so that you could interact with a stock market query web page for instance). The difference, however, is that it's difficult for ROBOT/LX running on the palmtop to get the appropriate information about what files are already on the desktop you are doing the incremental back up to today, and then make the hard decisions about what files to transfer based on all three of existence, date and attribute (read-only, hidden, system) differences between the two sets of files. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 20:49:19 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: David Sargeant David Sargeant writes: > I believe the advantage is that, when running an FTP server on the > palmtop, you can use the mirror package to make a complete backup easily. > No such client exists (yet? ) for the palmtop. Exactly! And you can do separate incremental backups to both the work network and home network, and each of the destinations identify which files they need to keep up to date. The idea is to just get the palmtop FTP server to give up all the information (in the form of a "ls -l" unix-style listing) and then do all the hard decisions on the desktop machine. In the future, a similar IMAP server on the palmtop could allow you to synchronise the palmtop and desktop mailboxes by doing all the difficult sync algorithms on the desktop. The gee-whiz factor is also hard to beat - remember aceesing ftp://buckcreek.palmtop.net/ from your Netscape browser :-) -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:47:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean Hoger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean Hoger Subject: USR Worldport Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have USRobotics World Port 14.4 Fax Modem for sale if anyone is interested. I used it with my 200lx before I got a PCMCIA modem. $20.00 US + Shipping takes it. Thanks Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:11:53 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: Anyone wants to sell his SC? In-Reply-To: <199903090317.PNR00210@bitstream.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does DR-DOS permit cut & paste between programs loaded in sessions/windows? At 03:17 AM 4/9/99 +0200, you wrote: I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in task switching and multitasking so I don't need it. Would you be interested in that? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:39:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dave - <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: HP to the jungle and pocketjet info Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Never heard of a cleaning cloth, at least, never used one ! does it not talk about pocketjet cleaning in the manual? dave> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:33:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Wayne Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wayne Thompson Subject: Re: Fwd: Ricochet Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a flat rate with no limit on connect time. The avg speed is about 14.4. See http://www.ricochet.net/ Wayne Russel Brooks wrote: > > Avi, I'm interested. First tell me about Ricochet; is it a flat > rate per month? ...or per hour or minute? Is there a max > connect time limit? What is the connection speed. > ... > > Tell me more... > Russ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:18:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ALAN KREMPLER Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ALAN KREMPLER Subject: new finder version In-Reply-To: <370F36FB.3E8367D2@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever. some goodies: * sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive * symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder, they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk sectors for 5 bytes. you can define these links in the file menu. * these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus. just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu directory to understand. * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories. imagine what this can do to menu design give it a try ALAN KREMPLER alias alan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:57:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Pete Rourke Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Pete Rourke Subject: unsubscribe Comments: To: ALAN KREMPLER In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Signoff -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of ALAN KREMPLER Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 5:18 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: new finder version i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever. some goodies: * sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive * symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder, they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk sectors for 5 bytes. you can define these links in the file menu. * these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus. just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu directory to understand. * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories. imagine what this can do to menu design give it a try ALAN KREMPLER alias alan@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:00:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Database trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT David Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any way to import a CSV file into Dataperfect. I have just the dp.exe and dp.sys files and press F3 for help but it's just not doing anything. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:09:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: new finder version Comments: To: ALAN KREMPLER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:51:10 -0400 (EDT) 01h32m53s ago ... On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote: > i tried it out and found the program to be more magnificient than ever. Agreed! 8-) > * sort order (%s) can be definded differently for every drive Don't think so... Tried lots of combinations of the %s parameter, and found this: (A) 0=3Dnormal sort order for /Palmtop 1=3Dreverse order (B) Also for /Palmtop 0=3DNo sort 1=3Dname sort 2=3Dtype 3=3Dsize 4=3Ddate (C) and (D) do the same for drive screens You can also control the split-screen display with the %w parameter. (A) 0=3D/Palmtop screen not split 1=3Dsplit (B) 0=3Dother screens not split 1=3Dsplit (C) For /Palmtop screen: 0=3Dicons 1=3Dlist 2=3Dlist (detail) (D) and (E) For right and left screens. Same specs as (C) > * symbolic links (very much like win95). this is what you saw in the > palmtop.lzh archive. as archives are completely transparent to finder, > they can be kept in an archive without using up your scarce disk = sectors > for 5 bytes. Yep, found this out last night. Very cool. Need to change %z parameter from c:\palmtop to c:\palmtop.lzh > you can define these links in the file menu. How? I've been trying to figure this out. Could you explain please? > * these symbolic links are a easy and convenient way to define menus. > just think of how this is done in win95. look at your \windows\startmenu > directory to understand. Unfortunately, this doesn't help me much. To quote the cleaning lady - "I don't do windows"... > * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories. > imagine what this can do to menu design True, and very cool feature, but was also available on the previous versions. > give it a try I'll drink to that! 8-) Thanks. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:35:03 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ALAN KREMPLER Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ALAN KREMPLER Subject: Re: new finder version Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <199904101409.KAA01792@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > you can define these links in the file menu. > > How? I've been trying to figure this out. Could you explain please? 1. set your cusor on a file to define a link to and mark it (space key). 2. go to the directory where you wont to have the link placed to. 3. press ÝCTRL¨Ý-¨ or select /File/Link... from the menu. thats it. very much like copying. this will do the following: 1. create a *.xff file which contains the location of the link target as plain text and 2. modify (or create, if necessary) the _.xfn file to give the link the name of the original file. > > * you can give long names, not only to files but also to directories. > > imagine what this can do to menu design > True, and very cool feature, but was also available on the previous > versions. directories was new to me. thank you for the split screen hints. BTW, you can keep your old finder.env file with your old palmtiop definitions, if you like. alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:08:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Loran Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Loran Brooks Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quite awhile ago I posted the question "Does anyone have the documentation for the underlying data structure for the HP200LX calendar file?" The wise response I got was, use CPACK. It's developed, debugged, and reliable. Well, there still seems to be some discussion re: OneButton conversion. So, I just picked up VisualBasic 6.0 Pro and I'm looking for a good project to sink my teeth into to learn the language. I'm also interested in developing my own PC Organizer software (similar to Outlook, but more suited to my needs). If there is any information on the data structures used for the .ADB, .PDB, and .NDB files, I would much appreciate it. Nothing may come of this effort and I will still rely on CPACK until a solution is truly rock solid. Thanks, L. Brooks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:54:53 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: Password protection / Encryption Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <033401be6bf4$4d1c38c0$8b65140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody looked at BestCrypt or even tried to install it on the LX? BestCrypt for DOS and Win3.1/Win9x/NT can be found on http://www.jetico.com It sets up encrypted 'containers' which can be used like drives. For DOS nearly no requirements are stated although for Win3.1 a 386 is required. ?? Before starting to experiment, I would like to know if there's knowledge already. Thanks Hermann > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Philippe Lewis > Sent: Thursday, March 11, 1999 8:19 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Password protection > > > Here's a question that was probably answered before I > subscribed to this > list: > > How safe is the file-based password protection on the HP? I'm > trying to ......... > If the password protection is lousy, is there any additional file-based > password protection I can get that would easily integrate with my 200? > Preferably System Manager compliant... > > Thanks > > Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:59:36 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Borland C++ 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, are there users of Borland C++ 1.0 on the LX? If so, I would like to know about your experiences. I just installed it on my 200LX and start using it (at least I try). Thanks Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:20:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Carrington Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Carrington Subject: Re: A more powerful "200lx" Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Remember, you can always sign on to unknown sites that may spam you as: no_one@provider.com or even more fun and telling off names. Dan Steven Lawson wrote: > > Not wishing to sign up for yet another source of email, were there any > websites listed in the article for the maker of this cool item? I can > see my next Unix server just waiting for me... :-) > > > The article describes a "matchbox" PC 5" square inches by 4/5" thick. > > The matchbox "contains a 486 processor, 16 megabytes of RAM and a > > 340-megabyte hard drive. It also has ports to connect a keyboard, monitor > > and modem." > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:28:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: New X-Finder symbolic links MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:50:24 -0400 (EDT) 04h15m21s ago ... On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote: > 1. set your cusor on a file to define a link to and mark it (space = key). > 2. go to the directory where you wont to have the link placed to. > 3. press ÝCTRL¨Ý-¨ or select /File/Link... from the menu. > > thats it. very much like copying. > this will do the following: > 1. create a *.xff file which contains the > location of the link target as plain text and > 2. modify (or create, if > necessary) the _.xfn file to give the link the name of the original = file. Great! Works exactly as described. Next question (well... two, actually): Is there a function available in X-Finder that will create a .xfe (executable) symbolic link, instead of the .xff? And is there any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using name sort? Of course, the first can be accomplished by renaming the *.xff to *.xfe - but that's an extra step. An executable link can be created by hand with a text editor and creating a file - e.g. whatever.xfe, saving it, then moving it to palmtop.lzh You can include multiple commands separated by semicolons, and specify memory allotment by putting a "Pipe symbol" after the command. Something like: a:;cd\forth\hp-pygmy.com|200 to switch to drive a: change directory to forth and run hp-pygmy with 250K memory. What I would like to do is to create the command file, and move it to the .lzh file from a menu command. I think maybe this could be done by setting up a line in the "Special" menu... This really is a cool program 8-) -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:20:46 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mack, > The version from http://minix.hplx.net handles all those things properly= . I > forgot to mention that the Minix for the LX only works on a 200LX so = far, as > it makes a bios call that is moved around for different versions of the = bios > and I have it working for only a couple of bios versions of the 200LX. I really does. Thanks a lot for the hard work you did. login as bin I tried the following: man usage It results in an error or at least it doesn't open the maunal. What do I wrong? Do you have any advice? Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:26:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990409161933.009c7310@popmail.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When I sent my original post, I hadn't really looked at the documentation (am I very different than most ?). >Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than >lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS >windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display >format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet). > >Secondly, I installed the program on my flashcard in a FFDB directory. I >tried accessing the help file and the program appears to require it to be >in the c:\_dat directory. Is that correct? Is the directory modifiable? I saw in the docs that the .hlp file must be placed in the c:\_dat directory for it to be usable, so I answered my own question. As for the size of the windows, I assume that that is not possible, so I would like to change my question to a request for future versions of the program. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:30:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rod Whitby wrote: > I'll try and dig up a URL for you. I've got the hardcopy here in > front of me - it's a file named tcp201.txt titled "Preliminary > Specification for a TCP/IP Application Binary Inteface (ABI) to run > over MS-DOS. It'll be under www.trumpet.com (or .org or something) > somewhere. It's much like a packet driver (it even has a TCP_DRVR > interrupt validation marker) except at the TCP/IP level instead of the > Ethernet level. The trumpet range of DOS internet apps all use the > same TSR for the TCP/IP stack - much the same idea as www.exe except > as a stand-alone TSR. Funny that I never heard about that. When I started implementing WWW/LX in 1995, I don't think this already existed, did it? > > NNTP: in NEWS/LX you can select the port it should connect to > > The trouble is that the firewall requires a login-type authentication > in a telnet session before accepting another telnet command to get > outside. I am doing the same thing across the firewall in our company. I use a ROBOT/LX script for that. Oh, I have to say I use a ROBOT/LX script for all the NNTP stuff anyway. > I had to modify LXNNTP to do all this over the telnet > connection before piggy-backing the NNTP protocol over the existing > telnet connection. I asked the author of NEWS/LX to do that but he had no time, so I started doing it with ROBOT/LX scripts - and I am pleased how well it works. > There are so many uses for FTP and HTTP connectivity > that we need to have servers for these protocols running on the palmtop. I see your points. For me, they would not really work out. My main machine is the palmtop. All I develop, I do on it, mostly in trains or while waiting for something/somebody. So I have different needs. > But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client > things by human multi-tasking. Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-) By removing GUIs it might probably work. With the GUIs, impossible IMO because too many parts must run at the same time. Hmmm... tear down the GUIs! :-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:30:04 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: Database trouble MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > David > Perhaps I'm missing something but I don't see any way to import a CSV file > into Dataperfect. I have just the dp.exe and dp.sys files and press F3 for > help but it's just not doing anything. > Tony Have you created a file? Ctrl+F5 will bring up the import screen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:54:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Database trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT David Perhaps I'm still missing your point but can I import CSV files into Dataperfect? Thanks Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:09:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Alan, What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in Notetaker program? Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:10:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix Comments: To: h_e_guenther@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> It works fine for me as either bin or root. Make sure you don't have any TSRs loaded except for the necessary ones. Also I suggest reducing your buffers to 5 in your CONFIG.SYS. I also loaded a newer version that should be bios version independent (hopefully). Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 16:21:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Floyd Smithberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Floyd Smithberg Subject: Re: Radio Shack Switching Power Supply Comments: To: DYARNES@aol.com, gsurrency@juno.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tnx for the tip, I bought one of the R/S switching 3A power supplies...works like a charm with my NC20...gonna be great for portable use here and UK.> 73 Floyd NQ7X Phoenix ScQRPion ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:14:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: New X-Finder symbolic links... oops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:06:58 -0400 (EDT) I mistakenly wrote: > You can include multiple commands separated by > semicolons, and specify memory allotment by putting a "Pipe symbol" > after the command. Something like: > a:;cd\forth\hp-pygmy.com|200 > to switch to drive a: change directory to forth and run hp-pygmy with > 250K memory. Oops (twice) The line should have a semicolon, not backslash -- and = read: a:;cd\forth;hp-pygmy.com|200 and obviously this gives 200K, not 250. Sorry about that. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:34:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Borland C++ 1.0 Comments: To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de >are there users of Borland C++ 1.0 on the LX? If so, I would like to >know about your experiences. >I just installed it on my 200LX and start using it (at least I try). I have it on my LX. Mostly used it for a C++ class last year but otherwise hasn't seen much use. I tossed the helps and the GUI to save space. My installed files are just under 1mb. Also have Mix Power C, Fortran and Rexx installed. Maybe one of these days I'll write something useful . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:53:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions Hi all, I've been trying to setup the freeware Othello game program called rever4 from SUPER's file base, but I can't seem to get it to work if it's launched from system manager under MaxDOS. If I close down system manager and run it under straight DOS, it works fine. It's too large to run by itself from system manager, so I set it up to run from system manager under MaxDOS. I got the following error after answering rever4's text questions: "File not found in Line No Line Number in module Rev4_1 at address OCOC:0994 Hit any key to return to system" The following is how it have it setup in system manager: Name: Othello Path: c:\maxdos.com c:\rever4\rev4_1.exe Comments: (first character is the upside down "?") Icon: (the c: prompt) How are other's successfully running rever4 from the system manager? It's no big deal. I'd just like to know what I might be doing wrong? Another DOS program that I'm running under MaxDOS can only find it's data files if they are in the C: root directory, even though while running under straight DOS, it only sees it's data files if they are in it's own subdirectory... Am I making a really dumb mistake, somehow? Well, as a I mentioned a while back, I'm about to start working on setting up my 32MB X2 HP200LX as a node on my tiny proprietary lan to facilitate automated backups and to handle last minute hotsyncing of my DOS applications before hitting the road. Last month, I found a supplier for the shells of the old Station 100, but the one base shell that they sent out for me recently ended up way out in Chicago somehow, only to be shipped right back to the supplier again. :-( They are now sending it out to me again, but this time, via express mail. ...So, hopefully I'll have it sometime next week. They tell me that they have about 50 of those shells in stock yet. They sound like a nice solid base to stabilize my HP200LX on my desktop while it's serially connected to my network and while I use it under A/C power. If anyone would like the supplier info on those shells, just let me know and I'll post it. I'll let you all know how that base shell works. Oh, one more thing: I remember that someone posted to this list a while back about the HP200LX serial port's ability to automatically turn on the HP200LX whenever it receives a signal. I'd like to hear more about this to see if I can use this feature to get my HP200LX to turn on in the middle of the night for it's automatic backup. I'd also seem to remember that there is now a command line util that will turn a HP200LX off, too. That would be great to run from my one of my batch files after the automatic backups are completed. Does anyone remember where I can find this info now? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:17:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain John, I have a 2meg 200LX and Reversi runs fine from System Manager. I don't use MaxDOS. My path looks like this: C:\reversi\rev4_1.exe| Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black instead of white. : ) Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 6:53 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions > > Hi all, > > I've been trying to setup the freeware Othello game program called > rever4 from SUPER's file base, but I can't seem to get it to work if > it's > launched from system manager under MaxDOS. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:22:36 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fwd: Re: Password protection / Encryption MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >From: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de (Hermann Kellinghaus) >Has anybody looked at BestCrypt or even tried to install it on the LX? >It sets up encrypted 'containers' which can be used like drives. I don't know BestCrypt but I use SecureDevice which is on the SUPER site. It is based on IDEA which is a recognised strong cipher. cheers... Russ Ps- I recommend ALL potential users of encryption products read the "Snake Oil FAQ" which is posted to alt.answers periodically. Basically it says it is IMPOSSIBLE for almost all of us to evaluate the quality of encruption products due to the high level of math and encryption background needed. Because of this we are at the mercy of products that may look ok but we can't know of any problems until the securuty has been broken and our secrets have been uncovered. Instead of trying interesting new (untried) products it is safer to use old well evaluated products that have proved the test of time. While I use and recommend SecureDevice I can't guarentee the quality because I can't evaluate the code. I only know that sources that I 'think' are reliable have stated that the IDEA cipher is good. Even that may not matter because the implementation in SecureDevice may be flawed. So... choose what you think is a good product and hope it is. Also, be wary of advertising claims (the Snake Oil) which only confuse and aren't reliable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:31:07 -0700 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Password protection / Encryption MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ps- I recommend ALL potential users of encryption products read > the "Snake Oil FAQ" which is posted to alt.answers periodically. URL: http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/snake-oil-faq.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:13:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:03:03 -0400 (EDT) 02h07m40s ago ... On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote: > It's too large to run by itself from system manager, so I set it up > to run from system manager under MaxDOS. I got the following error = after > answering rever4's text questions: > > "File not found... > > The following is how it have it setup in system manager: > Path: c:\maxdos.com c:\rever4\rev4_1.exe You need to change the line to: c:\maxdos.com -dc:\rever4 rever4_1.exe The -dc:\rever4 will change the working directory to c:\rever4 Without this, you will be running from the root c directory. That's also why the other program you mentioned can't find its files unless they're in the root. Same idea for any prog that needs to be run from a particular directory. Just add the -d parameter after maxdos. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:49:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Mack Baggette To: Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Problems with DosMinix > < What do I wrong? Do you have any advice?>> > > It works fine for me as either bin or root. Make sure you don't have any > TSRs loaded except for the necessary ones. Also I suggest reducing your > buffers to 5 in your CONFIG.SYS. One thing I failed to mention was that you need to be careful when logging in as anything other than root as the sh shell is used for root and ash, which is much larger, is loaded for bin. This can limit your available memory to where some things won't run. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:02:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Les Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Les Cohn Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) Comments: To: Daivd Lawrence MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David, Thanks for your (macro) tip. But I dont understand how the macro (selecting the subsets) contributes to the speed. Les -----Original Message----- From: Daivd Lawrence To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Slow-Saving PhoneBook(CPU Speed) >My phone list is 887 entries, and on my std 2meg 200lx it opens/closes >in 2seconds. I use the notes field extensively, and have several subsets. > >I put this efficiency down to the macro I run regularly, that opens the >file, selects the first subset, the next subset, the next subset... >then closes the file. > >I also use this macro with WorldTime and Database & NoteTaker >files. > >{F6}{Home}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10} >{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10} >{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{Down}{F10}{F6}{ Down}{F10}{F6}{Home}{F10} > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:10:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX Comments: To: Steve Dowell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >===== Original Message From HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell ===== >Alan, >What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in >Notetaker program? > >Steve I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches. What about the size of individual records. FFDB is limited to 32K. Is notetaker limited similarly? What are the overall database size limitations of each? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:47:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I guess this is kind of related.... I downloaded the Kamas Outliner program from SUPER the other night and was VERY impressed with it. (I like ordering things in outlines) I first ran it on my desktop to get a feel for it, and REALLY liked it. I loaded it on my LX, but unfortunately I had to Terminate All to run it, (a bit of a hassle) and then I couldn't get the colors adjusted so that it was readable. Bummer. I tried the other Outline programs on SUPER and IMHO they didn't come close to Kamas. Too bad it's unreadable on the LX. : ( Anyone know of an Outliner program for the LX that's anywhere near the caliber of Kamas? BTW, I really like InfoSelect for Windows because it lets you outline your items. If I had a suggestion for FFDB, that would be it. Steve > >Alan, > >What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in > >Notetaker program? > > > >Steve > > I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches. What about > the size > of individual records. FFDB is limited to 32K. Is notetaker limited > similarly? > What are the overall database size limitations of each? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 05:55:00 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: Loran Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would strongly suggest getting the developer documentation or the Palmtop CDRom available from Thaddeus. The palmtop CDRom contains the developers docs in html format (+ a lot more). GaryS > If there is any information on the data structures used for the .ADB, = .PDB, > and .NDB files, I would much appreciate it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:48:43 +0000 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Re: Database trouble In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To import CSV into Dataperfect you can use CTRL-F5 to bring up the import screen. Each item on the screen is numbered - entering the number will allow you to make entries to suit your needs. Press 1 and enter the file name you wish to import. Press 3 to make DOS delimited file your choice. Then enter , (comma) as field delimiter and space as record delimiter. There is a little more to consider in designing the panel to recieve the data, lots of help can be found on the Dataperfect mailing list. > David > Perhaps I'm still missing your point but can I import CSV files into > Dataperfect? > Thanks > Tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Best Regards, Mike Melancon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:27:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@STRATO.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D D V Subject: Re: FLUFF: Soup kitchen On 04-09 07:26am, you wrote > > Wouldn't they be running DIET or GARLIC? > > Or a DOS port of a shopping cart? :) (I _can_ use a diet, > though...) Try The Shopping Assistant, from SUPER. It comes with a nice pic of a shopping cart. :=) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:41:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@STRATO.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D D V Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX On 04-09 05:30pm, you wrote > It is great to be able to cut and paste between built in apps, and use the > in a more integrated way than I can do currently with IS. Did you try the same with notetaker? Just wondering. I do like this program a little better, and the integration is one of its major advantages over IS. > Two questions...I like using IS with lots of windows showing, rather than > lots of single lines as the demo.fdb file uses. I typically have many IS > windows with a little info in each. Is there any way to change the display > format? (I have to admit that I didn't check the help file as yet). I would be surprised if the author responded in the affirmative. That's why I recommended the datacard interface as being more usable. > Thanks again for putting in the time to write the program. It is one more > reason to save some money to finally upgrade my HP100 1 meg to a more up t > date unit. I have always felt that palmtops were meant to be used with just such programs, for on-the-spot, random note taking. Domingo an InfoSelect power user ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:15:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ddvteach@STRATO.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D D V Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX On 04-11 12:10am, you wrote > I don't think that notetaker lets you do boolean searches. Nope, you can't. > What about the size of individual records. FFDB is limited to 32K. > Is notetaker limited similarly? Same limit (hplx manual page 8-6) > What are the overall database size limitations of each? Notetaker has a theoretical limit of 5000 notes per file. I don't recall what the recent post said about FFDB. My comments: 1-The jumbled together initial screen should be substituted by the datacard interface of the notetaker and other Sysman applications. 2-There appears to be a bug: If you open another aplication after FFDB, and you try to edit a record with Memo, the temporary file will be written to the root of C: but Memo will look for it in the root of whichever drive is open at the time, thus creating an error. 3-The greatest need of this program is speed. It compares very unfavorably to IS on this respect (but then, there is no DOS program I know of which runs faster, except perhaps for Tinyedit, which hardly does anything). InfoSelect is hard on the eyes, so I welcome this new program, and look forward to its improvement. Domingo an InfoSelect 'power' user ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:40:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Steve Dowell: If you like Kamas but don't like it's multi-colored appearance, check to see if the program has a start up option such as /BW, /Mono, etc. If not= , then use the CGAHLP.COM program with the -DMono.dat color/conversion file= . Usually that will help. Put both the CGAHLP and Mono.dat files in the sam= e directory with the program and include the following batch file = @echo off REM BW.BAT cgahlp -dmono.dat %1 cgahlp -r and run BW kamas from the dos prompt. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:07:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Sorting group box stuff in GDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have a data base with a group box containing option buttons. Does anyone know how to create a view with all records sorted by which option button is checked? Perhaps there is a SSL solution. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Access (or 123) to GDB? Howdy all, I've been experimenting w/ GDBLOAD, read the manual, etc. Ý Shock! I know ;-) ¨ and I don't see a way to automatically create a new database; then load a Comma Separated Value (CSV) file into it. It seems the database must exist already... I've been creating Ýor using pre-created¨ databases in Access at work. It'd be REAL handy to do a fast Access dump to CSV (the first line contains the field titles); then load it into a non-existent .GDB database. Is there an easy way to do this? I put 123 in the header as Access will export to a Lotus .WK1 file as a "flat file" with the DB field titles in the first line. Would it be easier to go from WK1 to GDB? I don't want to create the dBase twice .... first in Access and then make a blank one in .GDB format, so I can import it. We do a LOT with media and VIP contact lists, many of which are in Access. It'd be nice to painlessly port them to .GDB and keep them in my pocket. My interim solution is to hit the arrow key a million times in the spreadsheet (locking titles, etc. It's not pretty; but it works.). I imagine there will be difficulties in "telling" the GDB generator what field types and lengths to put in the .GDB file ... I've kept all fields (in this case) "Text entries" (except two "memo" entries, but can accept any program truncating after two lines. I've even kept the phone numbers in "text" format, 'cause I didn't want to be forced into a MS-driven field restriction, when some radio station gives me a number like, "555-KTEX". From what I've seen of the CSV, Access doesn't automatically tell me the longest line length I'll encounter in each field, when you look down ALL the records.... I could try to write a program in BASIC that does some sort of line-length count in each field of the CSV Ýand could eventually get fancy and test for field type¨, but would any output I could generate interface with anything out there that would build a .GDB? Or, how hard is it to write a "program" that would do all that and make the blank .GDB that GDBLOAD could then fill? I'm a "pretty smart DOS guy" and "advanced" end user BUT have had only BASIC as a programming language and have never had to dust those skills off and use them.... Ýtranslation: I'm looking for a way to cobble together something(s) that has (have) already been done :-) ¨. TIA for any help/solutions! --tim PS. I used to use dBase III, anyone know a cheap source of the DOS disks/program? Folks often offer "upgrade" price anyone offer a "side-grade" or "retro-grade" price? I don't want to say "down-grade" 'cause ANYTHING you can do w/ a palmtop is NOT a step down ;-) !! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:10:45 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: From start to program In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225E83@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the 200LX? From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run some particular program? Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 13:36:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them... Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it anymore, what would be the harm? What am I not seeing here? Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:23:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Leslie Cohn wrote: > I have a 2MB HP200LX. My phonebook has 744 entries and is growing. It > takes at least 45 seconds to save the file (even on AC - which is faster > than batteries.) That is very slow. You could have some kind of corruption in the file and this is causing it to be so slow. Try doing a Menu File Copy right in the Phone app and save a copy of this file to another name. Then open up this copy and close it and then open it again. See if this copy works any faster. Also, you should look into the utility called FASTDB. It is a special kind of TSR program for use with SysMgr that will postpone garbage collection of the PDB, NDB, ADB & GDB files. This will speed up the time it takes to open and close these files. Follow the directions completely to make it work. And modify your AUTOEXEC.BAT file to have it go to the C: drive before running SysMgr. So, it should end like this: C: 200 If you are storing a *.?DB file on a stacked flashcard, then it will be very slow. Try getting rid of stacker or moving the file to the C: drive. Make sure you backup to the flash card often. The way the *.?DB files work, each record with a notes field actually takes up two records in the file. So, you actually have over 1400 records and this may take some time to work with. A double speed upgrade would certainly help. You may have a flash card that is slow to write. When you close a *.?DB file, an index is re-written to the end of the file. If the flash card is slow to write, this process will be long. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:23:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Slow-Saving PhoneBook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > Are you using Turbocpu? > > It is a TSR that I use on my vanilla 2MB model to speed it up from 4.77 Mhz > to about 6.5 Mhz. There is a faster option that takes it to about 8.5 but > the screen flickers Gosh, I wish this utility would go away - it is not what it seems to be. TURBOCPU does NOT speed up the CPU in any way whatsoever. All it does is shorten some of the wait states that are built into the system for accessing the internal RAM and ROM and some of the I/O devices. Those faster CPU speeds you are seeing reported by the benchmarks are false, inflated readings because of the wait state modifications. It is just snake oil. The CPU in the standard 100/200LX runs at something around 8 MHz because that is 1/2 of the speed of the main crystal of the palmtop. The double spped unit has a 32 MHz chrystal and therefore clocks the CPU at about 16 MHz. This speed upgrade is a true increase in CPU speed, there is no doubt about that. But under normal situations, the CPU is only a part of the subsystems involved in running a program. The RAM and the PCMCIA slot are not running any faster, so the actual throughput you will see on a double speed unit is not everything running twice as fast. I have run a Lotus 123 calculation intensive speadsheet both before and after the double speed upgrade and saw a 1.8x improvement in running this real world benchmark. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:23:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: PCMCIA cel modem in palmtop works great! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rian wrote: > Are you using the HP's battery power to connect? How many > minutes do you manage to stay online before getting low > battery messages? Yes, I have been using the palmtop on battery power while going online with the cel phone and the PCMCIA modem. My online runs with acCIS are no more than aout 1 or 2 minutes, so I don't know how long the palmtop could stay online. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:32:40 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: From start to program In-Reply-To: <199904111938.RAA14935@firma.thezone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Andy wrote: > How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the > 200LX? From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run > some particular program? Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses? Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned off and the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then it will take two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON button. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 16:48:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: FFDB - A new EXM Program for HPLX Comments: To: Steve Dowell In-Reply-To: <2B24B1089184D111B2A90000F6AA27B30178CEDF@memex1.harrahs.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can only explain by describing how I use InfoSelect. I have a number of small files set up, each dealing with a separate topic. As I colect information on each topic, I add a note into one or more files that that info may apply to. For example, I might have a file dealing with different work projects, books or articles I came across that I might want to read, quotes, etc. Also, I had a file for each month, which I used as a log or diary. I could quickly search the notes in each file by topic or date to find the information that I was looking for. The builtin Notetaker never gave me the freefrom capabilites that I so like about IS. Alan At 05:09 PM 4/10/99 -0500, you wrote: >Alan, >What do see as the advantages of FFDB over the built-in >Notetaker program? > >Steve > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:30:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: From start to program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 11 Apr 1999 17:10:45 -0230, Andy wrote: > How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the > 200LX? From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run > some particular program? Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses? Yes. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:13:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: email attachment protocols MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail. I like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems like the smart way to go. I have already got the ccMail file structure figured out, and have even successfully "faked" ccMail with a test email message. I think that the textual portion of the email driver will be pretty easy, thanks mostly to the work Rod Whitby has done with LXPOP. Now for my question... What is the standard for attachments? I have read the RFC 1225, 821, 1123, and 822, but did not see any mention of how attachments are handled. I would rather not send a bunch of attachments to myself to try and figure out the format, since I would likely end up getting some part of it wrong. If someone would point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. Brian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:30:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: From start to program >> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the >> 200LX? From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run >> some particular program? Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses? Message-Id: <19990412023043.GMDL126@Ý12.72.154.183¨> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:30:43 +0000 >Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned >off and the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then >it will take two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON >button. A waste of a whole keypress . My 64k pocket Rolodex turned on when any of the programmed application keys were pressed. Now that was quick. It was my first real PDA...and you think the LX is a power champ, the Rolodex runs 2-3 years on 2 button lithiums, and had IR transfer. Too bad none of the functions beyond phone number lookup/entry were worth beans. But then maybe that's why I'm here. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:29:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Rever4 in SUPER files base/misc questions Hi All, I'd like to thank Steve and Peniel for explaining how they are running some of their DOS programs from the system manager. I'll be running some of my DOS programs without the help of MaxDOS and using the "|" that Steve had reminded me about, and I'll be running my other DOS programs using MaxDOS correctly now, thanks to Peniel. :-) I'm now still trying to remember who had mentioned some things a while back about the serial port's ability to detect a signal and automatically waking up the HP200LX, and also who had mentioned something about a new util that can put the HP200LX back to sleep from the command line. Any hints on where to find that info would help me to introduce even more automation into my backup/hotsync project. I look forward to when I'll be able to contribute something significant here, as well. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BE845F.D91D7AE0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:40:42 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? How about using macros to generate your blank database files on the palmtop? Surely the data you are getting from Access conforms to a smallish family of types? You could have a macro file, with up to 10 macros for 10 different database styles, or if you wanted to do a particularly gnarly, complex one, you could chain macros together, and to tie one in knots, chain to another macro file! You could even break individual database structures down into modules, and use a single macro for each module, so you could then build up a database in steps... I have dbase IV running on my std 200LX, but mostly prefer to use the built-in apps for speed of access(!) and cut-n-pasteability. I have a full install with all the help files, printer files and even the tutorial, at under 5meg. (My father got a boxed set complete with 5 kilos of manuals at a church fair for $1.00) HTIY (Hope this inspires you) David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:45:05 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: From start to program Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > >> How many keypresses does it take to run a program on the > >> 200LX? From pressing the power button, how fast are you to run > >> some particular program? Can you do it in 1 or 2 keypresses? > Message-Id: <19990412023043.GMDL126@Ý12.72.154.183¨> > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:30:43 +0000 > > >Yes, if the palmtop was in the System Manager when it was turned > >off and the application you want is one of the blue-key apps. then > >it will take two keypresses, and that is including pressing the ON > >button. > > A waste of a whole keypress . > > My 64k pocket Rolodex turned on when any of the programmed application > keys were pressed. Now that was quick. > > It was my first real PDA...and you think the LX is a power champ, the > Rolodex runs 2-3 years on 2 button lithiums, and had IR transfer. > > Too bad none of the functions beyond phone number lookup/entry were worth > beans. But then maybe that's why I'm here. > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml A computer (HP200LX) is in a different class than a pda!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:10:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: email attachment protocols MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Brian McIlvaine wrote: > I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail. Before I developped POST/LX, I was looking into that too. But it was impossible (at least for me) to get an official file description for the cc:mail file format and reverse ingineering is usually illegal and I did not want to manoeuvre myself into problems. Therefore I gave up. If you really want to do it, may I suggest to officially get the OK from Lotus. > What is the standard for attachments? I have read the RFC 1225, 821, > 1123, and 822, but did not see any mention of how attachments are > handled. Have a look at RFC 1521 and 1522 (MIME). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:58:41 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: email attachment prot/ccMail... >I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail. >I like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems Cool! Kewl! Great! I'm right behind you, in spirit, not in body, as I couldn't program my way out of a damp paper bag in a thunderstorm! But I like ccMail, it is built-in and works excellent with palmtop.com, but down here in New Zealand, the telco charge rate to the USA kills that service. I tried talking one of the Auckland ISP's into fitting a Lotus ccMail gateway, but absolutely no success, they wouldn't even do it if I paid the several grand for the software! Isn't there already a program that "tricks" ccMail around? (PNR?) I seem to remember trying it out a few years ago, it had many macros with flashing screens... Wishing you all the best with this project. David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:09 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Canon BJ-10e MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anybody know if the Canon BJ-10e has a serial port beside the parallel port? TIA -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:43:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ALAN KREMPLER Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ALAN KREMPLER Subject: Re: New X-Finder symbolic links Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <199904101928.PAA05076@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Great! Works exactly as described. Next question (well... two, > actually): Is there a function available in X-Finder that will create > a .xfe (executable) symbolic link, instead of the .xff? And is there > any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than > using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using > name sort? Of course, the first can be accomplished by renaming the > *.xff to *.xfe - but that's an extra step. rename files if you want .xfe instad of .xff. i haven't found any shortcut yet. for your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt files. the file format is the same as for the palmtop section in finder.env. functionality is also the same. > 250K memory. What I would like to do is to create the command file, > and move it to the .lzh file from a menu command. I think maybe this > could be done by setting up a line in the "Special" menu... try assigning the action to ÝSHIFT¨ÝCTRL¨ÝENTER¨, for example. look into the finder.env file to learn from the .icn section how to do that. alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:44:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: aguze118@STJOHNS.EDU Tony, I checked the user manual over the weekend. Paradox 3.5 will import and export ascii comma delimited files. It also supports direct conversion between Paradox files and Dbase II thru IV, Lotus 123 V1 and 2. Hope this proves helpful. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:35:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Outlook <=> LX Comments: To: ldbrooks@UMICH.EDU Try this site: http://fly.to/hplx and look for the LXREF files. There's a wealth of knowledge concerning the HP200LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:36:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: New X-Finder symbolic links Comments: To: ALAN KREMPLER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:25:25 -0400 (EDT) 03h42m06s ago ... On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote: > > And is there > > any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI menu other than > > using bogus file dates and sorting on that - or fake names and using > > name sort? > for your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt = files. > the file format is the same as for the palmtop section in finder.env. > functionality is also the same. Thanks! After testing the new Finder on my spare machine, I installed it on the 200. Works great. Right now it's set up using the bogus date trick to put the /Palmtop screen in the order I was using with the older version. Where did you find the info about .xpt files? Do you read Japanese and have the JKIT? Do you set up a single .xpt using the list from the palmtop section of the older .env file, and use this as the %z parameter? Thanks again, and sorry for all the questions. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:37:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andreas wrote: > But I doubt we have the space for doing all this. The 186 can only > access 1 meg and Gates reduced that to 640k maximum. This is sufficient > for most stuff, but not at the same time. > The use of 640KB-1MB by the system was IBM's decision, not Microsoft's. Remember - part of that space was _hardware_ mapped to the mono and CGA video cards and ROM BIOS. It's possible to stuff software into the interstices, but any OS running on the basic PC architecture has to work around the limits of the physical hardware design. Some OSes page out to pretend to be able to use that space, but that's a performance trade-off. Remember the hardware configuration settings for loading BIOS into RAM? If HP had chosen to not follow _IBM's_ mapping, we wouldn't be able to run much of the DOS software the list is so fond of. Credit (and blame) where credit's due! Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:50:51 0 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: New X-Finder symbolic links Comments: To: ALAN KREMPLER In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Alan > or your other question, however, there is a good answer: use .xpt > files. How does this .xpt files work? Regards Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:54:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: New X-Finder symbolic links Comments: To: ALAN KREMPLER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:50:26 -0400 (EDT) > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, ALAN KREMPLER wrote: > > > > any way of arranging the items on the /Palmtop GUI > > > ...there is a good answer: use .xpt files. > > Do you set up a single .xpt using the list from the > palmtop section of the older .env file, and use this as the %z > parameter? OK - This time I just answered my own question. That IS how it works. Need to close Finder and restart - init won't make the change. -PR ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:20:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 8 Apr 1999 to 9 Apr 1999 - Special issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:48:13 -0400 > From: David Ness > Subject: Re: Microsoft strikes on Ebay ??? > > > Including, I think, _all_ copies on any backup medium that you happen > to possess. > Correct. In fact many licenses restrict the number of backups of their software you may keep. Presents an interesting problem, no? > Can you imagine _anyone_ re-writing all of thier ancient backups > to remove something? > Can you imagine anyone who can still *read* their ancient backups? If they still have a working drive, the medium's probably deteriorated beyond usability! Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:46:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:26:53 +0200 > From: John Musielewicz > Subject: Re: Science formulas for solver--number limits > > Thank you Orin! > > Would you know how I could go about getting these newsletters? > Jake Schwartz (http://www.waterw.com/~jake-s/ppccdrom.htm) has put PPC Journal and CHHU Notes (both HP calculator) on CD-ROM. The Museum of HP Computing (http://www.hpmuseum.org/cd/cddesc.htm) has a CD-ROM set with the museum site (including a RPN tutorial) and over 100 HP calculator manuals & application packs (which include the formulae & program steps). I don't do TI! Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:22:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: LXMap at its best Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got a new LXMap submission from Paul Stratton and if you have been on the fence about loading up this application, this should push you right over. How many times have you seen a US or Canadian phone number and wondered where it was geographically located? This is a constant for me. This new LXMap takes an area code as input and immediately shows you where it's from! Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks they can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state names. http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html And as always, thanks to Stefan Peichl for LXMap. :) -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:51:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: New X-Finder .xpt files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Hi group - Since Alan's post about using .xpt files to set up the /Palmtop screen in Finder, I've done a little messing around with this. There are several ways to use these. 1> Point the %z parameter (in finder.env) to the .xpt file 2> Select a .xpt file while using Finder's file browser, and ÝEnter¨ 3> Copy the .xpt file(s) to /Palmtop The latter 2 options will let you use multiple /Palmtop screens. VERY cool! Thanks again for the info, Alan 8-) -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:51:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Goldsmith, George" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Goldsmith, George" Subject: C++ on the HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Greetings, What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX? What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)? Thanks very much for the responses. George Goldsmith Diamond Bar, CA (USA) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:04:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: X-Finder??? I apologize for my ignorance on this subject, as I'm usually very 'up to date' on cool LX stuff but I'm not 'up to speed' on X-Finder :( 1) What is it? Is it like Stereo Shell? 2) Can it do all the cool things Stereo Shell can do? 3) What kind of memory requirements and disk space does it need? 4) Does anyone have a working setup they could zip up and email to me so I can try it? 73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:21:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX Comments: To: "Goldsmith, George" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++ that runs on the LX. There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++ for the LX. - Longden "Goldsmith, George" on 04/12/99 08:51:01 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "Goldsmith, George" To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: C++ on the HPLX Greetings, What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX? What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:52:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steven (Casey) Karp" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Subject: Re: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions Comments: To: Steve Dowell In-Reply-To: <2B24B1089184D111B2A90000F6AA27B30178CEE0@memex1.harrahs.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Steve Dowell wrote at 07:17 PM 4/10/99 -0500 >My path looks like this: >C:\reversi\rev4_1.exe| I wrote a little menu in LXBatch for all of my games, so now they only take up one slot in "&More..." I launch the menu with |325, which seems to be plenty for everything I play. >Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video >on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black >instead of white. : ) Now, does anyone have a way of doing this automatically before the game loads and undoing it afterwards? That seems to be the one keystroke I can never remember! S. -- "I think tradition is what endures. I'm partial to the erotic like having a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river. The river will continue to flow as always. That's what these dishes are." -- Akimoto Yasushi while judging on "Iron Chef" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-Finder??? Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:16:33 -0400 (EDT) 01h08m55s ago ... On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > 1) What is it? Is it like Stereo Shell? Picture a combination of AppMgr and Filer, and an icon viewer with some features of STS. The new version now has the option for an STS/Filer type split screen file browser. > 2) Can it do all the cool things Stereo Shell can do? Not sure about ALL - certainly most. I use both X-Finder & STS > 3) What kind of memory requirements and disk space does it need? About 40K+ disk space for the .exm - plus about 8K for the .env - and some space for icons (but your icons are better in uncompressed .lzh files). I have it set to close Filer on launch, and have 348000 free memory left. > 4) Does anyone have a working setup they could zip up and email to > me so I can try it? Sure - if you want it. I just got the newest version a few days ago, and have it working pretty much the way I like. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:27:59 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Araujo, Isaque G." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Araujo, Isaque G." Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX I guess the version 2.0 runs too, but I still didn't get to find it on the web. Isaque. > -----Original Message----- > From: Longden Loo ÝSMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:21 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX > > I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++ > that > runs on the LX. > > There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++ > for the > LX. > > - Longden > > > > > > "Goldsmith, George" on 04/12/99 > 08:51:01 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please > respond > to "Goldsmith, George" > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) > > Subject: C++ on the HPLX > > > > > Greetings, > > What is the highest version of Borland's C++ that runs on the HPLX? > > What other C++ compilers run on the HPLX (highest versions)? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:40:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: New HP/Mobile Planet web site... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just found this: http://www.hplxdirect.com Interesting... geared toward WinCE mostly, but the 200LX is displayed prominently as the 2nd machine on the page. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting Gilroy, CA -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, Ethernet, WWW/LX, and ISDN. A rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:47:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think several people on the list are running Borland Turbo C v2.0, but that's C and not C++. I haven't heard of anyone using anything higher than Turbo C++, v1.0x on the LX. I believe I've heard some people say that TC++ v1.0 has all the features of TC v2.0..... plus it adds the C++ extensions. - Longden "Araujo, Isaque G." on 04/12/99 09:27:59 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "Araujo, Isaque G." To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX I guess the version 2.0 runs too, but I still didn't get to find it on the web. Isaque. > -----Original Message----- > From: Longden Loo ÝSMTP:Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:21 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX > > I think Borland Turbo C++ 1.0x is the highest (and only) version of C++ > that > runs on the LX. > > There's a couple of other C compilers, but I don't know of any other C++ > for the > LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:57:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: email attachment prot/ccMail... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes! Great! I'm all for it! I'll even pay for it! Keep up the great work! Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Lawrence To: Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 1:58 AM Subject: Re: email attachment prot/ccMail... > >I am looking at developing a POP3/SMTP transfer program for ccMail. > >I like the ccMail interface, so the driver to go between them seems > > Cool! Kewl! Great! I'm right behind you, in spirit, not in body, > as I couldn't program my way out of a damp paper bag in a > thunderstorm! > > But I like ccMail, it is built-in and works excellent with > palmtop.com, but down here in New Zealand, the telco charge rate > to the USA kills that service. > > I tried talking one of the Auckland ISP's into fitting a Lotus > ccMail gateway, but absolutely no success, they wouldn't even do > it if I paid the several grand for the software! > > Isn't there already a program that "tricks" ccMail around? (PNR?) > I seem to remember trying it out a few years ago, it had many > macros with flashing screens... > > Wishing you all the best with this project. > > David Lawrence > katana@clear.net.nz > > Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:57:09 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: EMS driver for upgraded HP200 ALAN KREMPLER writes: > are any upgraded versions out there? is anyone successfully using EMS on > a 4 or 5 mb unit? > > tell me what you kmow I have recently modified EMM200 and Makeems to work on my 4Mb palmtop. I am waiting for permission from the author of EMM200 to release it to the SUPER site. ====================== David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ====================== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:03:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX In-Reply-To: <88256751.0061B1F9.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Longden Loo wrote: > I think several people on the list are running Borland Turbo C v2.0, > but that's C and not C++. > I haven't heard of anyone using anything higher than Turbo C++, v1.0x > on the LX. > I believe I've heard some people say that TC++ v1.0 has all the > features of TC v2.0..... plus it adds the C++ extensions. Borland C++ 2.0 will work on the LX as well. Rod Whitby uses it to do all of his LXTCP (and other) stuff. Turbo C++ is a beefed-down version of it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:47:29 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: LX200-Notes Comments: To: Patrick West MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the url for the free version of "EasySync for Lotus Organizer & Lotus Notes - Synchronization for the PalmPilot, Palm III and IBM WorkPad" ..... the url for the free HP200LX to Lotus Organizer 2.1 exchange link utility. ..... You might be able to get a workable hack running. Is a workable hack out there? With Version 3 of Lotus Notes I had the ability to save copies of messages in the old CCMail Archive format Is this already possible with version >= 4? All I ever did was tell it to save in that format Had you to tell it for every single mail, or can you select a group of mails? This would be an acceptable workaround. TIA -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:28:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian McIlvaine Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Built in hlp files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody know the format for built in help files? The SDK gives the structures necessary to access the help sytem codes, = but does not give any insight into the format of the help file itself. I'd appreciate any input anyone has Brian McIlvaine ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:03:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Rever4 in the SUPER files base/misc questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Use LXSTAT. You can find it on the S.U.P.E.R. web site. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven (Casey) Karp ÝSMTP:skarp@RICOCHET.NET¨ > > >Once it starts you need to hit ON + / in order to reverse the video > >on the 200LX so that if you play black your pieces will be black > >instead of white. : ) > > Now, does anyone have a way of doing this automatically before the game > loads and undoing it afterwards? That seems to be the one keystroke I can > never remember! > > S. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:24:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? Comments: To: "katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ" Howdy, re: >(My father got a boxed set << of dBase IV >> >complete with 5 kilos of manuals at a church fair for $1.00) OK, I'm green w/ envy now ;-) I saw 3 boxes going to "official destruction" a few years ago .... was VERY tempted to help "destroy" one of the sets, but it seemed a little too shady :-( Darn that conscience! >How about using macros to generate your blank database files on >the palmtop? Surely the data you are getting from Access conforms >to a smallish family of types? Um... I've had pretty bad thinking day (and its not going to get better); so my brain isn't "inspired" by this one yet. Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text," "Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each field? If there's a way, I'll go for it. dBase would just "absorb" the CSV, "as-is," wouldn't it? Maybe I oughtta look for at least dBase III for DOS.... Thanks for the input. << for those getting to this "chain" late, I'm trying to go from Comma Separated Value (CSV) exports, directly into creating and then filling a .GDB database from scratch in the LX. Unless I'm wrong GDBLOAD needs to have a .GDB database with the structure predefined >> --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:40:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: X-Finder??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Peniel Can I possibly get a copy of your setup also to see what you did. Thanks Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:45:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Longden Loo.... Borland C++ 2.0 is firmly ensconced on my C: drive. The C++ side is out o= f date but the C side of the program works fine. On a DS machine even the Borland IDE is acceptably fast. I've used it with multiple SC sesssions. One SC session holds the IDE; another session is used for the help screen= s; a third session contains Turbo debugger. I've also used a fourth SC sessi= on for testing programs I've written. Unless my program overwrites part of t= he OS, I can usually recover from a crash without having to reboot the whole= machine. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:43:11 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: ICQ and www/lx on a hp200lx Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto Andreas Garzotto writes: > Funny that I never heard about that. When I started implementing WWW/LX > in 1995, I don't think this already existed, did it? Don't know. But it would be an ideal candidate for any future TCP/IP TSR work. > I am doing the same thing across the firewall in our company. I use a > ROBOT/LX script for that. Oh, I have to say I use a ROBOT/LX script for > all the NNTP stuff anyway. That must be one powerful scripting language! > I see your points. For me, they would not really work out. My main > machine is the palmtop. All I develop, I do on it, mostly in trains or > while waiting for something/somebody. PNR version 3.0 and LXTCP 1.0 were written and debugged on the palmtop in the Whitsunday Islands (Great Barrier Reef, Australia). But when I am at a desk, I like to use the "big" computer - then no-one can tell that I'm actually editing a new palmtop application instead of what I should be editing :-) > > But with 640k in each carousel session, you can do a number of client > > things by human multi-tasking. Especially if you remove the GUIs ;-) > > By removing GUIs it might probably work. With the GUIs, impossible IMO > because too many parts must run at the same time. > > Hmmm... tear down the GUIs! :-) Amen! But seriously, imagine if you could interface the existing SysMgr and PAL "Open File" GUI front-ends with a FTP client back-end which recognised file names of the type ftp://host.com/path/to/file.txt and loaded that instead of a local file. This is basically what I do on the desktop already when editing palmtop files. Or imagine a drive X: which actually was a interface to an FTP client which passed back the directory listings to Filer ... -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:10:42 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: C++ on the HPLX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Borland Turbo c++ 3.0 docs say 286+ processor. Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:13:29 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Canon BJ-10e Comments: To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephan, My BJ-10ex does not have a serial port. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:56:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Fwd: HPLX & KaGold Packet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date Sun, 11 Apr 1999 10:29:22 -0400 From: ab4yy@rma.edu (Mike Kelly) > Subscriber Comments: I'm heavy into packet but don't have a decent > portable setup and would like to go with a 200LX and KaGold. --- end of forwarded message --- *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:20:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Landmark Speed Test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can find it at: http://www.powerleap.com/downloads/speed200.exe I'm guessing anyone can get it. Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:45:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Landmark Speed Test Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <07e001be854b$dec89000$8b65140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Philippe Lewis wrote: > You can find it at: http://www.powerleap.com/downloads/speed200.exe > > I'm guessing anyone can get it. > > Philippe :) Using Speed600, a newer speed test, my doublespeed 200LX is pretty meaty, the equivalent of a 12MHz AT (that's an 80286, for those of you that didn't live in the Dark Ages.) Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:37:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul_Stratton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul_Stratton Subject: Re: LXMap at its best Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Thanks for the praise! I really appreciate it. No one can ever get enough... :) The source of the maps have been located. The map is located at: http://www.aegisbooks.com/ACMap.html Even the large version of the map is difficult to read. Good Luck! Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 10:28 AM Subject: LXMap at its best I got a new LXMap submission from Paul Stratton and if you have been on the fence about loading up this application, this should push you right over. How many times have you seen a US or Canadian phone number and wondered where it was geographically located? This is a constant for me. This new LXMap takes an area code as input and immediately shows you where it's from! Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks they can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state names. http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html And as always, thanks to Stefan Peichl for LXMap. :) -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:29:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Yarnell Subject: Agenda books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I saw a copy of Agenda rel. 2.0 at my favorite used softeware shop Fri. Includes the six manuals as well as the program. Cyber Exchange #49 Phone (503) 257-7308 www.cyberexchange.com They wanted $39.99 for the set. You can import text files direct with the TXT2STF utility, if you want to import a number of similar files you can build a deffination file to put items (eg from, to, subj in e-mail messages) in your catagory of choice. I don't use this feature, but have a full set of manuals and am happy to look up answers for any questions. regards, Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:22:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kiyoshi Akima Subject: C++ on the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX. The problem with *any* C++ compiler that runs on the 200LX is that they're old. The C++ language has evolved considerably since then. None of the old compilers handle templates or exceptions or namespaces, or at least, not properly. If you go to the bookstore now and get a book on C++, much of the stuff in the book won't work on any C++ compiler that runs on the 200LX. So you're stuck with a C compiler with some of the old C++ extensions. Still, that's better than straight C. Kiyoshi Akima kakima@ix.netcom.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:41:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: C++ on the 200LX In-Reply-To: <1999412232715241@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Kiyoshi Akima wrote: > Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX. Do you have any further information on this product? Is it commercial? Is there a URL for it? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:39:28 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Paradox for DOS Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich C. Johnson wrote: > > Tony, > I checked the user manual over the weekend. Paradox 3.5 will import and export ascii comma delimited files. It also supports direct conversion between Paradox files and Dbase II thru IV, Lotus 123 V1 and 2. > Hope this proves helpful. > > Rich > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I am the one that has paradox 3.5 (full set) I agree with Rich I read my doc's and it can do the convert as state above. I have convert CD1 FILES FOR MY HP95LX. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:40:38 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text," >"Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each >field? You can do that with perl ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:05:38 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Cannot create file Hello everyone I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them. Does anyone know where this file comes from? John Musielewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:28:14 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: 4dos installation problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to install 4dos 5.51 in a 4MB 200LX: - added "shell=c:\4dos\4dos.com c:\4dos @c:\4dos.ini /p" to config.sys - created "c:\4dos.ini" with "Inherit=Yes" (suggested by someone on this list) - added "set COMSPEC=c:\4dos\4dos.com" to autoexec.bat - copied the following files from 4dos551.zip to c:\4dos 4dos.com 4dos.hlp 4help.exe kstack.com When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages: "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ... 4DOS 5.51 DOS 5.00 Copyright .... Drive not ready--close door R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? " Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Paulo Custodio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:19:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections MIME-Version: 1.0 I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back to my HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP, but I'm trying to achieve something that I could do with the Psion (and a couple of bits of software for it). 1) I could send & receive e-mail from the Psion using a direct cable connection setting (no modem) and its serial cable connection to a PC. This would allow me connect to my ISP on the PC first (running Win95), and the Psion could then send/receive e-mail & news using this connection. 2) I could connect to my PC (again, direct cable), but no connection to my ISP, and then receive (previously received) e-mail from my PC's client software (Turnpike) which was acting as a POP3 server. Has anybody achieved this with the HP and any available software? All that I've looked at seems to require a PCMCIA modem in the HP. If it's currently not possible, can anybody point me in the direction of how to go about it. I'm a programmer by trade, and I have plenty of tools (Visual C++, Delphi etc.), but no experience of internet stuff. I'm working my way through a book on TCP/IP and suspect that a proxy server may be required somewhere. I'm very keen to get this working, and I would be grateful for some pointers on where to start. Many thanks in advance. -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:28:30 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: LASAT PCMCIA Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the specsheet they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There is nothing about Ampere. BTW: I don't have the URL of the HPLX compatibility database. Can anyone tell me? TIA -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:33:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections In-Reply-To: from "Chris Randle" at Apr 13, 99 04:19:49 pm Content-Type: text > If it's currently not possible, can anybody point me in the direction of > how to go about it. I'm a programmer by trade, and I have plenty of > tools (Visual C++, Delphi etc.), but no experience of internet stuff. > I'm working my way through a book on TCP/IP and suspect that a proxy > server may be required somewhere. I'm very keen to get this working, and > I would be grateful for some pointers on where to start. Chris: A couple of options... If you just want to use the PC because it has a modem and you don't have a PCMCIA modem, then there are a couple of programs available on S.U.P.E.R. that simply pass data through from one COM port to another. However, I haven't tried to get this running under Win95, and I have NOT been able to get it running under Win98. If you really want the PC to do routing for you, there's a formerly shareware product called IPROUTE that has now become commercial software. Last time I checked, you could still get an unsupported copy of the shareware version. This software will turn your PC into a gateway (kind-of like WinGate), and runs under DOS. As for a Windows solution, there is WinGate that might work for you. Personally, we've had *lots* of trouble running WinGate at my church, and have replaced it with a hardware solution that has run trouble-free for 3 months now. But I've heard other folks say great things about it... Hope this helps. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:55:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225E88@N3CDOIMMAIL160M>; from Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO on Mon, Apr 12, 1999 at 05:24:03PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-12-22:24:03 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO: > Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. "Text," > "Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each > field? I wouldn't know about that, but I do all kinds o' CSV data file massaging in perl, all the time. One tool, which I use _ALL_ the time, is csv-maxcols; it simply the maximum widths found for each field in the input CSV. Works like a champ. Another, visibly based on the first one, does csv->dbf, and I use it whenever I want to download a big database. Problem is, I've yet to find a tool that can handle big gdb files in any way whatsoever. So when I've got a big table, I use dbf format, and the dodbfÝ1¨ viewer, recently discussed on this list. Boy, is that ever fast. Had to wrap it with a batch file that did "mode bw80" before and "mode co80" after running the executable, but other than that it works like a champ. Yowza is it ever fast. Wish it had incremental search, and subsets, like gdb, but whew is it _fast_. The third tool is a csv2gdb converter in perl. It's supposed to build the indices, so you don't get the "no records found" and need to cycle through the different subsets in gdb, like you do with gdbload --- but it didn't work when I flung a big table at it, so I never followed up to see if it worked better than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script requires that the gdb file already exist; it can't build the gdb schema and viewÝs¨ from scratch. I was gonna attach 'em to this note, but then I remembered that there are some who turn red in the face, shriek, tear their hair out, and in general get way too stressed if you send code to this list, so I decided not to. Anyone wants csv-maxcols, csv2dbf, or csv2gdb perl scripts, just drop me a note and I'll happily email 'em your way. Or you can snarf 'em via http from my web siteÝ2¨. -Bennett Ý1¨ Ý2¨ P.S. Did I mention that dodbf is _fast_? :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:02:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: LASAT PCMCIA Modem Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:00:38 -0400 (EDT) 34m20s ago ... On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Stephan Goeldi wrote: > How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the = specsheet > they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There = is > nothing about Ampere. Well, assuming it uses 5V, then 1W would be 200mA - well above what the palmtop can handle. -PR ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:10:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Cannot create file Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called > gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give > me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them. > Does anyone know where this file comes from? The .sc extension sounds like it could be something to do with Software Carousel. I seem to remember that SC won't allow you to open phonebook/world time in two separate sessions, in order to prevent file corruption - maybe this is something to do with it. -Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:16:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: LX200-Notes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> With Version 3 of Lotus Notes I had the ability to save copies of messages >> in the old CCMail Archive format >> > Is this already possible with version >= 4? > >> All I ever did was tell it to save in that format >> > Had you to tell it for every single mail, or can you select a group of mails? > > This would be an acceptable workaround. I'm on Notes release 4.5.2 which shows me no Save options, but rather the following Export options for a memo currently open on the screen: ASCII Text MS-Word RTF CGM Image TIFF 5.0 Image ...while my options for Import into an open memo are: ASCII Text MS-Word RTF CGM Image TIFF 5.0 Image Binary with Text Lotus 123 Worksheet GIF Image JPEG Image If I select a group of files from the list in my Mail Inbox window, I can Export only the listing (not the actual messages) and my Export options become: Structured Text Tabular Text Lotus 123 Worksheet ...and apparently I can Import the same filetypes ?! Note that there is a Save As New Version command, but it refers to revisions - not file formats - and is only functional if the database is so designed. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:16:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: X-Finder??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Peniel > Can I possibly get a copy of your setup also to see what you did. > Thanks > Tony And, please, some cool screenshots placed on a Web page somewhere so the rest of us can see what all the fuss is about? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:17:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Rever4 in SUPER files base/misc questions >Use LXSTAT. You can find it on the S.U.P.E.R. web site. > >Phil Hmm... the LXSTAT utility is great, and I'll make use of it in other ways, (Thanks for mentioning it, Phil) but the Othello program itself seems to nullify the effects of "LXSTAT /". That line in the batch file does reverse the display, but the program itself seems to switch the display back to where it was again after it loads. So, apparently the only way to reverse the screen for this game is to do it manually with the "ON + /" key combination after it's loaded. Cheers! John Vander Stel ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:25:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain A 123 macro can parse a CSV string into individual cells. Try this... Cell A1 contains: '"hello","world","what","is","on","TV",123 Select Move the cursor to the right and place an upper-case letter "L" above each new field in the (was cell A1, now cell A2) cell below. example: cell A1 - L>>>>>>>L>>>>>>>L>>>>>>L>>>>L>>>>L>>>>V>> cell A2 - "hello","world","what","is","on","TV",123 Note the "V" above the "value" field. Now press . You should be looking at a box marked "Parse Settings". Select (press right arrow) press <.> (press down to reach the bottom of your data) Select and move the cursor to cell F2 press <.> and move the cursor to N2 (note, if you have more than one string in the "A" column, move the cursor down to the bottom row of your data) press Select Go look in cells F2 through N2. This is only a demo of the Parse stuff, how you use it in a macro is up to you. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Bennett Todd ÝSMTP:bet@NEWRITZ.MORDOR.NET¨ > > 1999-04-12-22:24:03 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO: > > Can a macro "look" into a CSV and determine the content type (i.e. > "Text," > > "Date," "Numeric," etc.) *AND* count for the longest line-length in each > > field? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Rever4 in SUPER files base/misc questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Then I would suggest Keystuff? It's also on the S.U.P.E.R. site. Keystuff will put keystrokes in the keyboard buffer that get "executed" after the end of the next DOS command. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > Hmm... the LXSTAT utility is great, and I'll make use of it in other > ways, (Thanks for mentioning it, Phil) but the Othello program itself > seems to nullify the effects of "LXSTAT /". That line in the batch file > does reverse the display, but the program itself seems to switch the > display back to where it was again after it loads. > > John Vander Stel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:05:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: WTNOTE repost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you retrieved David Lawrence's new file WTNOTE.ZIP, plese get it again from teh SUPER Site. The first posting did not have the World Time Database in the zip archive. Sorry about that! http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/sup-srch.pl?case=i&method=words&boolean=or&sort=alpha&search_phrase=wtnote.zip -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:25:15 +0200 Reply-To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es" Subject: Buy HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi everyone, i am developing a telemedicine project. In order to test it, i am using HP200Lx. But i need more units (about 4-5 more). Knows someone where can i buy them ? Price per unit ?? (including trip, custom, ...) Would be possible in spanish language ?? As soon as possible Fran ____________________________________________ Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion - UPM Ciudad Universitaria s/n 28040 Madrid, Spain Tel +34 91 5495700 Ext 332 Fax +34 91 3366828 e-mail: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es ____________________________________________ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:17:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Has anybody achieved this with the HP and any available software? All > that I've looked at seems to require a PCMCIA modem in the HP. I can just speak for WWW/LX, but I think other packages can do that too. In WWW.CFG set Modem=0 to make it a direct connection and not a modem connection and set Port=1 to use COM1 (Port=2 would be the PCMCIA modem). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:18:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections Comments: To: Chris Randle >HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP, but I'm >trying to achieve something that I could do with the Psion (and a couple >of bits of software for it). Have you looked at the Pegasus email package? It has a DOS port, and you can run the full Windows version on your pc. Mail files are the same. Have a nice day! Franklin Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:53:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: JKit EMS install problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I'm trying to install Jkit again on my palmtop and when it tries to install ems I get the following error message: too many clusters. I tried Norton Utilities, defrag and scandisk on both my flashcard and C drive. I also tried and initialized my C drive but I still get the same error message. There are no hidden files and all results are fine. When I look for lxemm.dat it states that it's not installed. When I try to install ems manually I get the same error message. Any ideas. TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:10:41 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: LASAT PCMCIA Modem Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi It uses too much current. Stephan Goeldi writes: > How about the LASAT Credit 288? Does it work with the LX? In the specsheet > they tell, that it uses 1W in workmode and 0,1W in standby mode. There is > nothing about Ampere. > > BTW: I don't have the URL of the HPLX compatibility database. Can anyone > tell me? > > TIA > -goe- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:29:01 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Cannot create file Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff Mike Wagstaff writes: > > I had a strange thing happen. Something created a file called > > gdb.sc which was causing my phonebook and world time to give > > me the error "cannot create file" when I tried to use them. > > Does anyone know where this file comes from? > > The .sc extension sounds like it could be something to do > with Software Carousel. I seem to remember that SC won't > allow you to open phonebook/world time in two separate > sessions, in order to prevent file corruption - maybe this is > something to do with it. > Could be. I do have SC installed. Maybe it just became corrupted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:20:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: 4dos installation problems Comments: To: Paulo Custodio In-Reply-To: <3713466E.82C19A51@alcatel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote: > When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages: > "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ... > 4DOS 5.51 DOS 5.00 > Copyright .... > > Drive not ready--close door > R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? " > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance, > Paulo Custodio Mine does that as well, although I use a newer version of 4DOS. There's no problem if I have my flash in the drive, though. I can't figure it out, so I either just boot with the flash in, or hit Ignore to make the error go away. It boots normally for me if I ignore the error... Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:31:14 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: 150 mA pcmcia card limit Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies. Thanks John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:26:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Cable? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for the DOS-LX palmtop ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:42:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: <199903131831.PNR01446@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i have AC pluged in i can run almost any card > Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies. > Thanks > > John > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:43:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: Cable? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i should add and build the cable myself if i can get the connection head! On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote: > Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom > made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for > the DOS-LX palmtop > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:43:33 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Cable? Shier makes custom cables. There is a place in minnesota that sells the end but I can't remember the name. Anyone? Sputnik writes: > Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom > made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for > the DOS-LX palmtop > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:44:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote: > the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i > have AC pluged in i can run almost any card This is a BAD idea, as detailed in the FAQ for the 200LX. The power supply for the 200LX's PCMCIA socket is not designed to supply more than 150ma regardless of whether the palmtop is being used with the adapter or the batteries. Running cards that use more than that can kill your 200LX. > > Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies. > > Thanks As for John's original question, the SDK states: The quoted maximum power available at the card port on the HP palmtop is 150 mA @ 5v = 750 mW (this is on the Vcc pin) 60 mA @ 12v = 720 mW (this is on the Vpp pins) where both can be active at the same time. This value is limited by the output of the power supply and not by whether it is running on battery versus AC, although battery life would certainly be shortened by high current draws. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone knows what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing happens. I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything seems to be working pretty well... Or is there an alternative for NT? Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:51:34 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit Comments: To: Sputnik The voltage/current is the same when running off batteries or adapter. Its just the adapter will supply current longer than the batteries will on a high drain card. What I was asking was since the pcmcia port is a dual 12/5 volt port is the limit at 12 or 5 volts. I'm pretty sure its at 5 but just wanted to confirm it. Thanks for your response. Sputnik writes: > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > the 150mA limit is when the unit is running off batterys only, when i have > AC pluged in i can run almost any card > > > Does anyone know at what voltage the 150 mA limit applies. > > Thanks > > > > John > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:03:01 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit > > The quoted maximum power available at the card port on the HP > palmtop is > > 150 mA @ 5v = 750 mW (this is on the Vcc pin) > 60 mA @ 12v = 720 mW (this is on the Vpp pins) > > where both can be active at the same time. Thanks. Now, would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5? The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA with a 3 volt card. Plus a lot of the newer cards are 3 volt. It would open up a bunch of possibilities. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:47:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <007001be8608$a1a7c660$8b65140a@siebel.com> from "Philippe Lewis" at Apr 13, 99 04:51:29 pm Content-Type: text > Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone knows > what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing happens. > I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything seems to > be working pretty well... Alas, this is a mysterious thing! For a couple of years, I ran CPACK and FILER just fine on my NT system at work, then all of a sudden FILER quits working just in the manner you describe. About 4 months later, (I know, because I check it periodically) it started working again just as mysteriously as it quit!! Others here on this list have reported similar behaviour, so I knew to just keep trying.... Good luck. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 21:00:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 Comments: cc: p.lewis@USA.NET >Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone >knows what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but >nothing happens. I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, >although everything seems to be working pretty well... >Or is there an alternative for NT? Message-Id: <19990414010035.ITNV2760@Ý12.72.154.236¨> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:00:35 +0000 I use Transfile on NT 4.0. Works fine enough for simple transfers. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 19:58:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom and Paula Froehlich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom and Paula Froehlich Subject: cables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sputnik, Send me an email-I may have some parts. Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:32:40 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Microscan barcode laser scanner Here is how to connect a 200LX as a terminal to a laser scanner card and set it up for programming. Hope its clear! Programming the Microscan scanner board:GBIpricer Instructions to enable RPK to Read single and dual fields. (Pako and CX) 1. Connect a terminal. If using the HP200LX with datacomm and the nine pin serial cable with a 25 pin to 9 pin adapter use a 25 pin male to 25 pin female cable to hookup to the scanner port. Connect the pins on the cable pin 1 to pin 1, pin 2 to pin 2, pin 3 to pin 3, and pin 7 to pin 7. 2. Set protocol to 9600 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no parity. 3. Enter . Enter all three characters. Use capitals. 4.Press the space bar to see the following response: Main-->Operations 5. Press the space bar again to see, response: Main-->Code Types 6. Press the Enter key. Code Types-->Scanner #1 7. Press the Enter Key. Scanner #1-->Narrow Margins:Disabled 8. Press the space bar twice to see: Scanner #1-->Codabar 9. Press the enter key. 10 Press the space bar 7 times until you see: Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode format=single 11. Press the enter key. 12. Continue to press the space bar until you see: Scanner #1-->Codabar-->Barcode format=single&dual-->single & dual. 13. Press the enter key. 14. Press the esc key. 15. Select E for exit. 16. Select Y for save. Card should beep. 17. Reconnect the cable that comes from the RPK to P6 connector. Now the scanner should read both types of bags. NOTE 1 1. N key or space bar key scrolls forward. 2. B key scrolls backward. 3. Enter key enables or accesses various options. 4. M key returns to the previous menu. 5. ESC key gives the option to exit or return to the main menu. 6. entered exactly with all three keys starts editing program 7. starts scanner read rate test. NOTE 2 COMMUNICATIONS baud rate=9600 parity=none stop bit=one data bit=eight RS422=enabled LRC=disabled Protocol (menu) point to point=enabled Preamble=¬M Preamble=disabled Postamble=¬M¬J Postamble=Enabled OPERATIONS triggering mode=continous one output end of read cycle=timeout timeout=50 serial trigger character=¬¨ ext. trigger level=positive no read message=¬U no read message=enabled barcode output=enabled when to output=as soon as possible package detect=disabled # of reads before a good decode= 1 (on ultima 35) 3 (on manual login) Match Code=enabled Code Types (menu) narrow margins=disabled transition count=70 code 39 status=disabled codabar status=enabled start&stop match=disabled start&stop output=enabled large intercharacter gap=enabled partial dual field=disabled envelope start character=C envelope character must match=disabled barcode format=single and dual fixed code length=disabled code length 3-31=10 12 of 5 status=enabled USER OUTPUTS beeper=disabled(manual login) enabled (ultima 35) relay driver=mismatch or no read new master pin=disabled good/bad polarity=positive good/bad pulse width=5 ______________ John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:23:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: X-Finder, Wow!!! Well, I finally have X-Finder installed on my LX and it really is a 'Wow!' application. Now I just have to figure out how to get the .env file configured. I have been a 'power user' of Stereo Shell, but I think that once I get X-Finder working properly, I will switch to it. I'm curious if anyone is using the LE (LogExpress) and ME (MemoExpress) software that the docs make mention of for their editor and viewer? If so, how well do they function and where can I find 'em? 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:31:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: CC field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. Comments: RFC822 error: CC field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. Comments: RFC822 error: CC field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Kiyoshi Akima Comments: cc: LX@ix.netcom.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX. > >Do you have any further information on this product? Is it commercial? >Is there a URL for it? It's an old commercial compiler. My 3.1 disks are dated December 1992. 3.1 also works on the LX, if my memory serves me correctly. I don't have an URL handy, but Zortech was bought by Symantec sometime between 3.0 and 3.1. Since then, Symantec has updated the compiler, I remember seeing a 6.0 sometime back, but it probably only works on 286+ machines. And no, before you ask, mine is not for sale. Sorry. Kiyoshi Akima kakima@ix.netcom.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:44:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Another X-Finder Question Can someone that is using pkunzip with X-Finder tell me how to set it up in the .env file so that it will work properly? I followed the instructions in the docs that said to replace unzip with pkunzip but when I try to extract the files I get an error and pkunzip give me a help message. Thanks in advance! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 01:26:03 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David M Peterson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 Howdy, On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct connect and the baud rate of your choice and save. Do not try to connect until you have rebooted. If you are below service pack 3, you might have to upgrade. I ahve to go through this again at work and most likely will do it within the next week. Reply if you want me to take notes. David Peterson On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700 Philippe Lewis writes: >Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone >knows >what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing >happens. >I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything >seems to >be working pretty well... > >Or is there an alternative for NT? > >Philippe :) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:42:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Francis JUNG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francis JUNG Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------------------- R=E9achemin=E9 par Francis JUNG/UTI/IDF/DEPT/EDFGD= F/FR sur 14/04/99 08:32 --------------------------- Francis JUNG 09/04/99 12:08 Pour : listserv@uconnvm.uconn.edu @ hub cc : = Objet : unsubscribe Please remove me from this news group ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:54:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Organization: The Hi-Speed Company http://www.alcatel.com/ Subject: Psion5 vs. hp200lx Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris wrote: >I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back >to my HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP... Chris - While being very happy with my hp200lx (it goes everywhere with me) I had in the back of my mind that the day it dies I'd have to seriously consider the Psion5. (But the way hp build 'em to last it might be a Psion6/7/8...). One of the points that attracts me to the Psion5 is its size (the WinCE stuff is not only low on functionality but BIG) and it seems to pretty ruggedly built. Can you summarize for us (me at least) what were the things you missed most from the hp when you went to the Psion? TIA Jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:15:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Organization: The Hi-Speed Company http://www.alcatel.com/ Subject: LED app notes on pulsed operation Comments: To: rclott@RO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Chris - I've let the subject meander around the grey matter for a few days and nothing more came back to me. I made my own search of the hp app notes but the web site only goes back a few years (certainly not to the early '70s!) and I too found nothing - although there are good notes on pulse operation vs. lifetime. I can only suggest trying it yourself... Sorry Jez ___________________________________________________________________ I've been trying to search the HP app notes for this, and haven't had any luck. Can you remember any more about this note than what you've told us so far? I would really like to learn more about this subject. -Chris Lott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:57:21 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: derive Hello I am trying to multiply two vectors in derive. It isn't doing it right because I am setting it up wrong. Can someone explain how to do it? I'd look in the manual only I don't have one. Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:34:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: 4dos installation problems Comments: To: Ian Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I looked at 4dos briefly about a month ago. I had the same problem before I configured it. One I set all my paths explictly, the problem went away. Good luck! Mike Ian Butler wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote: > > > When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages: > > "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ... > > 4DOS 5.51 DOS 5.00 > > Copyright .... > > > > Drive not ready--close door > > R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? " > > > > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance, > > Paulo Custodio > > Mine does that as well, although I use a newer version of 4DOS. There's no > problem if I have my flash in the drive, though. I can't figure it out, so > I either just boot with the flash in, or hit Ignore to make the error go > away. It boots normally for me if I ignore the error... > > Ian Butler > Advanced Software Systems, Inc., > Peace love sunshine Volkswagen > > Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:36:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Comments: To: kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does MS Quick C v2 work on the LX? Mike... Kiyoshi Akima wrote: > >> Zortech C++ 3.0 works perfectly well on the 200LX. > > > >Do you have any further information on this product? Is it commercial? > >Is there a URL for it? > > It's an old commercial compiler. My 3.1 disks are dated December 1992. 3.1 also works on the LX, > if my memory serves me correctly. > I don't have an URL handy, but Zortech was bought by Symantec sometime between 3.0 and 3.1. Since > then, Symantec has updated the compiler, I remember seeing a 6.0 sometime back, but it probably > only works on 286+ machines. > And no, before you ask, mine is not for sale. Sorry. > > Kiyoshi Akima > kakima@ix.netcom.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:08:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Psion5 vs. hp200lx In-Reply-To: <37143B90.CCA662A2@alcatel.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 The things I missed from the HP were: warning this list might grow long :-) p.s. It did! 1) Ruggedness. The Psion never felt as if it would survive a drop on the floor. The screen finally cracked when it got squeezed between my (palmtop friendly padded) stomach and the steering wheel of my car. I've never broken any other PDA, and I've had about 10 in my time. Two things particularly stand out. a) Go to a store selling the Series 5, and open and close the CF-slot cover. See? b) Try opening the case with one hand without it jumping to the floor; try shutting it with one hand without it snapping shut like a glasses case. This (according to posts I've read in NGs) can shatter the glass. 2) Database. And remember, phone books are databases too! It is nothing more than an ordered list on the Psion. There are no subsets as on the HP. The 'Find' function works on all fields, so you can't even reliably find/filter based on the contents of a category field, e.g., if that word is likely to appear elsewhere. I tried a 3rd party database (quite a functional one) from Purple Software. It was OK, but it was trying to emulate Access, complete with multiple windows. This just doesn't work on a small screen. You feel swamped by the interface and lose sight of the data. The little database on the HP is fantastic. If only you could sort by check boxes and radio button groups, and if only there could be a "parameter" subset, so you could say "Country = ÝWhich Country¨" and it asked you for the value to filter on, and if only... 3) Lotus 1-2-3 and Solver. They're not used every day by me, but when they are, there's no substitute. 4) The general crispness of response from the apps. The idea of the "soft-prompt" function keys, so that you can remember a series of keystrokes and queue them, but the prompts are always there if you forget. The shortcuts on the Psion are ludicrous and inconsistent (see 6) and once you're in the menu system, you can't jump around without loads of cursor key presses. 5) Keyboard. I seem to be in a minority here. For pecking and thumb use, I prefer the HP. The Psion's keys didn't have the tactile feedback and the case was a little wider, so that when cradled in two hands, I had to swivel my hands to reach the middle (horizontally) keys. 6) Consistent interface. Most (all?) apps on the HP managed to keep the same keystrokes. They seem to be made up as they went along on the Psion. In one app Ctrl-D would delete a record, in another it would be Ctrl-Shift-D. Stupid ideas, such as Ctrl-N being a new file and Ctrl- Shift-N being a new record. Which do you do more often? No sticky keys, so typing Shift-Ctrl-Fn-T is fun, and believe me those four finger functions were quite common. Nearly all the software on the Psion felt half-finished, as I believe it was. My understanding of the situation was that the software was rushed out to meet the marketing of the hardware. A ROM upgrade was promised but never (to date AFAIK) materialised. 7) Screen. I found the Psion's screen to be out of focus. I guess it's all those backlight and touch-screen layers. It was better with the backlight on, but then battery life would drop to about 5 hours. Talking of touch screens, I found I used it far less than I imagined I would. 8) Searching. This was a big annoyance for me. In the HP, you attach notes to entries, and you can search on them. On the Psion there are no notes fields. You embed (for example) a Psion Word document. A search does not search the embedded text. For me this rendered the whole thing next to useless. 9) Macros. The Psion came without a macro facility. But to be fair, there was a freeware utility call Macro5, which was so good it's character seemed to overshadow the entire machine. 10) DOS. But then I'm an old fart. Things I miss from the Psion: 1) Backlight 2) Slightly more flexible (for me) e-mail abilities 3) Backlight 4) Voice recorder. Although looking back I hardly ever used it seriously, mostly to entertain young children. 5) Backlight 6) Alarms. It was the one single area where they seemed to have got it right. I like the multiple daily alarms that could be disabled. I liked the ability to stop all sounds for a given time. I've since seen that 200Buddy can do the temporary sound disable. 7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night without disturbing my wife. Sorry for the length of this post, but you did ask, and I have a lot of opinions, as you can see. In article <37143B90.CCA662A2@alcatel.fr>, Jez writes >Chris wrote: >>I had a brief flirtation with a Psion Series 5, and I'm now back >>to my HP200LX. In nearly every area I'm much better of with the HP... > >Chris - While being very happy with my hp200lx (it goes everywhere with >me) I had in the back of my mind that the day it dies I'd have to >seriously consider the Psion5. (But the way hp build 'em to last it >might be a Psion6/7/8...). One of the points that attracts me to the >Psion5 is its size (the WinCE stuff is not only low on functionality but >BIG) and it seems to pretty ruggedly built. > >Can you summarize for us (me at least) what were the things you missed >most from the hp when you went to the Psion? > >TIA >Jez -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:23:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: LXMAP menu layer Comments: To: Lionel Zuckier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As the author of LXMAP I want to point you to a little utility which can be used as a layer on top of LXMAP in order to select one map out of a collection, which cannot be done by LXMAP itself. The advantage of this little power menu program is, that you can give a map a very long name, explaining what the map is really about. For example, you may have forgotten what NSW.IDX stands for. In my power menu ini file, I have a line like: {New South Wales, Australia}c:\bin\lxmap.com c:\map\nsw.idx and the power menu programm only shows: New South Wales, Australia If I move the cursor to this line and press enter, LXMAP displays New South Wales. The free power menu program is only 3KB in size. Download from: http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:40:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <19990413.212712.10295.1.dmp24@juno.com> from "David M Peterson" at Apr 14, 99 01:26:03 am Content-Type: text Just my luck - I replied to this post yesterday, and said that my NT installation had just started working. Well, this morning it was busted again! Argghhh... > On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to > start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct > connect and the baud rate of your choice and save. I decided to try your procedure, even though I have tried similar things in the past. Can you explain exactly where you get the option to set the port as DIRECT CONNECT? I went to the section on serial ports, but this wasn't a choice that I could find. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:14:55 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: radio modems Does anyone still use these with their 200LX? Has the form factor gotten any smaller or do they still stick out of the side aways? Whats the power drain like? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:26:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: 4dos installation problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to run the OPTION program to set the paths for autoexec, etc. to look at the proper drives. Cheers, Mack > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Paulo Custodio wrote: > > > When I try to boot the 200LX, I get the messages: > > "4DOS disk swapping initialized, ... > > 4DOS 5.51 DOS 5.00 > > Copyright .... > > > > Drive not ready--close door > > R(erty), I(gnore), F(ail), or A(bort)? " ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:31:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:23:10 -0400 (EDT) 08h58m39s ago ... On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > I'm curious if anyone is using the LE (LogExpress) and ME (MemoExpress) > software that the docs make mention of for their editor and viewer? If = so, > how well do they function and where can I find 'em? Hi Jeff and group - AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts. At least that's what I read in PTP... Just DLd both, and will maybe give 'em a try anyway. If you want to give it a shot - they're at: http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/machine/hp/ along with X-Finder and a lot of cool stuff. (All with Japanese docs, though). I forgot to mention before - you should grab IconEdit from the same site for use with X-Finder. (I think it's in the ICON subdirectory). As for your other query about pkunzip, I don't know the answer. Maybe Alan or someone else does... -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:26:35 -0400 Reply-To: herjosca@ncsc.mil Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cam Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great Information, but I can't keep up with the reading....... Later... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:35:44 -0400 Reply-To: herjosca@ncsc.mil Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cam Subject: Re: cables JACKS ??? Comments: To: Tom and Paula Froehlich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saw the posting go by, and would like to know if you have or know where I could get the connector that fits the HP 200lx... I was told a shown that with a little bit of work (and some glue) that two CD-ROM audio cables could be adapted to do the job, but it would REALLY look HOMEMADE then.. ANy help would be great!!! Thanks in Advance,. C. ---------- > From: Tom and Paula Froehlich > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: cables > Date: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 8:58 PM > > Sputnik, > Send me an email-I may have some parts. > Tom > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:52:15 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david.eggins@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Eggins Subject: T2T Memory is indestructable. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK, I knew that the Times 2 Tech memory was pretty robust, and I found out how robust it was yesterday. I needed to totally reset my HP, so I backed it up, took the two AA batteries out, took out the backup battery, and held down the on button for 60 seconds. I then put everything back, turned on, set up the drivers on the original 2mb drive, and rebooted. To my absolute amazement, there was all the data on my T2T 32mb drive staring back at me! A quick run of the format utility from T2T and the data was finally gone. That is bullet proof. The down side to this is the security, but it is a little slim. The person who found the palmtop would have to know wat drivers to load, and where to get them. This is also going to be made dificult by the fact that the screen is garbled until the speed drivers are loaded. Dave E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:52:36 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: COMDEX CHI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Would anyone be interested in getting into COMDEX free? I have a free entry ticket. yor pal al.................... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:49:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Evans - N0HJ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Evans - N0HJ Organization: Titan Software Systems Subject: Re: cables JACKS ??? Comments: To: herjosca@ncsc.mil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cam wrote: > > Saw the posting go by, and would like to know if you have or know where I > could get the connector that fits the HP 200lx... Cam, Usually, we only provide this info to active subscribers of the list &¬) john -- John A. Evans, N0HJ -- jaevans@codenet.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:07:37 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SC + TSRs MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, I just bought Software Carousel from Rundel (Germany) and it arrived today. I installed it and it seems to work OK. But there is one thing I don't understand: I load some TSRs in my autoexec.bat like DOSED LXPRO CICFAKE and others. But if I switch to the (predefined) WA3 (DOS3.BAT) with CTRL-3 and do the command 'mem /c' no one of the TSRs is listed. But LXPRO works. And DOSED doesn't. (Now, if I'll send this mail, I'll see if CICFAKE works ;-) ). I haven't moved any TSR to any of the .BAT files for the WAs. I load all of them in my normal a:\autoexec.bat. What's up there? Where are my TSRs? TIA+GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:11:26 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SC+TSRs MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, OK, as you can see, CICFAKE works, too. But what about DOSED? It's like DOSKEY, but has additionally filename completition. And why aren't the TSRs listed by mem /c ? GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:24:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Fwd: LX & Motorola Cellect1+ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date- Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:12:13 -0400 From- vincent.rikkink@xemics.ch (Vincent Rikkink) Subscriber Comments: I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with: Not using Card Services. Modem initialisation failed Please re-run with /D option to diagnose With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been inserted. When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then.... my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920. I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone switches off. Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data facilities of my provider (Swisscom). Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone Thanks, Vincent Rikkink --- end of forwarded message --- *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:24:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: LXMap at its best MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The challenge has been answered. There is now a cleaner version of the map (temporarily located at http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/ac.pcx). All of the city names should be more readable. Please check it over and give me any feedback. Mitch, feel free to relocate a copy of this map to the LXMAP page. Alan >From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) ÝSMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨ >Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:23 AM >... >Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks they >can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state names. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:36:16 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@primenet.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: (NONE) Don't know about v2, but v2.51 with assembler works fine on mine. Mike Mike Schneider writes: > Does MS Quick C v2 work on the LX? > > Mike... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:27:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:31:33 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts. Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with X-Finder? PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick viewer. Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:48:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: HP DBF format databases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, I was thinking that what the palmtop really needs is EXM Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files. We would need a way to pull in our data into DBF files and then we would need similar capabilities such as searching, subsets, different sorts, different views, etc., but do them with external files to the database rather than integrating them in unlike what they have done with the HP GDB format. It seems to me that a DBF format would be the easiest for exchanging data as well as creating Sync type apps, and having the viewing info and indices outside of the database would offer much more flexibility. I would like to hear more ideas on the subject if folks think it is a viable idea and if there are folks out there with enough EXM experience to do it. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:26:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:22:22 -0400 (EDT) 54m50s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with = X-Finder? > PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick = viewer. > Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed. I have it set to use VDE for the editor, and Buerg's LIST for the viewer, plus VIEW as an alternate viewer for Word, WP etc docs. LIST is fast, VIEW is slower, because it checks for document type before displaying. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:52:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Wanted: Alphaworks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Recently a friend from work gave me an old IBM PC Convertible - an old, old laptop with 2 720k drives. There were only 2 diskettes with it (neither one originals) - the Dos 3.3 disk with some cute little custom utilities designed just for the pc and an AlphaWorks disk with the stripped down version (no help files, no dictionary, no thesarus). After copying the 570k worth of files to my flash card, I tried out the software - the AlpahWorks has a great little databse in it and the word processor isn't too bad either. (I'm not a spreadsheet user so I couldn't judge that part.) I'd really like to find a full version of this software just to get the database. The only info I have is the name (of course) and the copyright which is: 1988 - Electric Software 1986 - Microlytics, Inc (for the thesaurus) A web search produced nothing - alphaworks is one of IBM's numerous sites and dominated the results. Any leads appreciated. Thanks, Terry Owen work: towen@quintrex.com home: owen6511@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:58:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:27:32 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:31:33 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > > > AFAIK - LE & ME require the JKIT Japanese environment and fonts. > > Peniel and/or others on the list, what editors are you using with = X-Finder? > PE seems to work well as an editor, but it would be nice to a quick = viewer. > Any and all comments/suggestions are welcomed. Hi Jeff & Members, I use MS-DOS Editor v0.9.019, Its small and fast. also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November / December 1998 issue, page 10. BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env. I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList? Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:00:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Small scanner/fax, folding acoustic coupler. Hello all, I came across this website by mistake: There's a small 1lbs, 200x200 dpi fax/scanner described, which runs on batteries. It can be used for scanning via a modem card, with the provided scanning/fax software. Under the accessories section of this page, I've seen a nice folding design acoustic coupler; if anyone uses these novadays. The site seems to be pretty old (although I doubt that it's been last updated 10/95, as stated!). Did someone use this device, or seen it being used? Not connected to the company, just noticed. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:57:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Areacode LXMap Repost Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you retrieved Paul Stratton's areacode.zip file from palmtop.net, please grab it again. Alan Striegel reworked the PCX file to make the city names more visible and it looks much better. ftp://ftp.palmtop.net/pub/maps/areacode.zip -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:09:12 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Wanted: Alphaworks Comments: To: Terry Owen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >1988 - Electric Software >1986 - Microlytics, Inc (for the thesaurus) > >A web search produced nothing - alphaworks is one of IBM's numerous >sites and dominated the results. > >Any leads appreciated. Thanks, Hi Terry I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric Software Alphaworks. Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm It seems they may be the people mentioned. Cheers Russell Sleepless in Ozland (3am) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:25:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:58:16 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November / > December 1998 issue, page 10. Hmmm.... the docs that come with it say to replace unzip with pkunzip. Where can I find unzip, is it on S.U.P.E.R.? Is there a corresponding ZIP program that I should also obtain? > BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env. > I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList? Once again, hmmmm.... I hope to play around with this thing some more tonight, it's quite intriguing :) I just need to round up all these necessary little files. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:27:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks) Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy of LotusWorks they want to unload? Terry towen@quintrex.com owen6511@earthlink.net p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com > ---------- > From: Russell HemeryÝSMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Wanted: Alphaworks > > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric > Software > Alphaworks. > > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm > > It seems they may be the people mentioned. > > Cheers > > Russell > Sleepless in Ozland (3am) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:41:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. Hello all, I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder. Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be of any problem to produce the new software packages. I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives. Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support. Bad news is, that he said there wasn't any demo/trial version. Thus, how the hell will you know, if it worth the money? The users's manual sections I sent to HPLX-L last year seems promising, and the company has similar successful products for Windows; but $80 is just a lot of money. Seems like they are pursuing this as a one-time cash income, rather then a long-term HPLX relationship. I was careless and "explicitly hinted" that right now 12 copies could be sold. So they could get app. $1000 this way. IMO, if someone offered them say $5000, they may sell the rights to PACI; probably even the source code for a few extra bucks. They dropped DOS. (They are not fond of the distributor/reseller idea, as their USA link is not doing its best for some reason.) This opinion of mine is based on what the founder/owner SW architecturist told me: "Of all the software projects I did during the back 15 years, only PACI failed to make market success. We are currently investigating the market opportunity of a similar application either for WinCE handhelds or the Win95/98/NT Libretto-likes. We are geared towards 486/Pentium ultraportables, but the chance of WinCE being used in real-time systems and indust- rial applications keeps the debate open. My opinion is, that PACI failed, because the HP DOS palmtop was way overpriced. When I first saw the 100LX in 1995, I thought that within three years every schoolboy will have one in his bag. But it was expensive. And today you can't defeat M$Win!" (BTW, the recent success products of this company for WIN are: Edison and Tina, which sell OK, but these are for desktops and include some hardware, eg. prototyping boards, too.) He mentioned that once they had talks with H-P to include PACI with factory new HPLXes. He said the same time H-P thought about buying a browser, too. IMO, that must refer to DASoft's WWW/LX. But they couldn't reach an agreement, because H-P was indecisive, he claimed. When was that, Avi? vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv *He said that Palmtop Circuit was reviewed sometime in the *Palmtop Paper (mentioned a "Palmtop Newspaper", but that *must be Palmtop Paper, IMO). Could someone look it up, please! *That may give you a clue, if it worth the trouble or not. ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ Non-standard disclaimer: I have no connection with DesignSoft, other than being a hungarian myself, I feel it's a patriotic act to help spreading locally made software among HPLX users. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:49:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Psion5 vs. hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I too would drop serious money for a backlight. Make it work without external attachments, and I don't care if a 30 second use from time-to-time effects the total life of a charge on batteries. Most of the time I can get to additional power easier than I can see in the dark. If the price of a backlight upgrade went as high as $200 I would still be interested. Phil BTW, M$ spell check wants to change the spelling of Psion5 to "Poison"... wonder what that's all about. :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Randle ÝSMTP:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK¨ > > 7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I > for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight > on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night > without disturbing my wife. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:49:47 -0400 (EDT) 51m31s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November / > December 1998 issue, page 10. Hi Quinton, Jeff, and group - It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that... I've been using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine. Just changed the line for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked. Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF. > BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env. > I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList? Looked thru the vector site, and some other Japanese sites, and came up empty... Maybe it's only on Nifty-Serve 8-( i'd sure be interested to see what it is. As I recall, UNZIP is on SUPER -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:39:50 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections Chris Randle writes: > 1) I could send & receive e-mail from the Psion using a direct cable > 2) I could connect to my PC (again, direct cable), but no connection to I connect to my ISP using Win95, download all my email, copy it over to my palmtop, write replies, and then send them off by connnecting to my desktop when I get home. This is simpler than it sounds as most of the work is done by batch files and shortcuts on my Win95 desktop. I use Rod Whitby's PNR to read email on the palmtop which I have transferred to it using Transfile Win200. To send replies (like this one) I use LXTOOLS Dos port to copy the files from the palmtop, and LXTCP on the desktop to send them off. The "manual" part of the operation is exporting the mail from my desktop mail client (Pronto Mail) and using Transfile to drag the files onto the palmtop. I would like to "automate this further, but I would need to improve Lxtools for DOS as it has hassles transferring large files TO the palmtop. What is turnpike? Would it help me to package my email, for my palmtop? ====================== David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ====================== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:12:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. In-Reply-To: <2A512526A34@sc.bme.hu> from "Tamas Feher" at Apr 14, 99 01:41:59 pm Content-Type: text > I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they > promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives. > Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support. Count me in for one copy. Where do I send the $$$$???? -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:14:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: HPLX emulator for the eternity. Hello all, I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE". OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation. I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020. So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity. Why not write one in Java? Java will work OK on/in future computers and is platform independent, if properly written. Thus that will run on Win2068 and BeOS v.9.2.6, just like on St.Linus ver 16.3.5. No matter if quantum or optical or DNA technology CPU ticks under the hood, you can have familiar DOS on your screen. I don't say, rewrite 1-2-3 or Quicken in Java yourself, just the realization of on-screen LCD and keyboard display, emu- lating SysMan and Int5f, etc. Say, the 1000CX version. I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU emulator for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's another matter. It should be a good base for the work. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:14:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leo Shepherd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Shepherd Subject: Type I pcmcia memory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tlai Enterprises has some discontinued Sony Magic Link (type I) one mb SRAM memory cards for about $25 ea. I just ordered/received two. While the HP 200lx system noted that the battery was good when installed, I keep getting an I/O error. I have a 512k ram card that works like a champ. Page 1-7 of the manual shows that such cards, up to 20 meg, should work. Any thoughts? Leo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:26:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:25:03 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: > > also pkzip/unzip does not work with X-Finder per. The PTP November / > > December 1998 issue, page 10. > > Hmmm.... the docs that come with it say to replace unzip with pkunzip. = Where > can I find unzip, is it on S.U.P.E.R.? Is there a corresponding ZIP = program > that I should also obtain? I read the same thing, and replaced unzip/zip with pkunzip/pkzip. But no go. (:-( > Once again, hmmmm.... I hope to play around with this thing some more > tonight, it's quite intriguing :) I just need to round up all these > necessary little files. If you are anybody finds TaskBar please let me know. (:-> Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:42:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: X-Finder: File Extractions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that... I've been > using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine. Just changed the line > for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked. > Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF. On the line of the .env file for zip extractions, I replaced unzip with pkunzip. Should I have any type of arguments behind it? Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:13:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 Comments: To: David M Peterson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Direct Connect? You got me stomped. The "Ports" control panel doesn't seem to have anything like that... As for Admin right, I'm in the list of Admins for that machine. Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: David M Peterson To: Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 10:26 PM Subject: Re: HP Connectivity program on Windows NT 4.0 > Howdy, > > On the NT side, you have to have administrator rights first of all. Go to > start-settings-control panel. Configure the serial ports as direct > connect and the baud rate of your choice and save. Do not try to connect > until you have rebooted. If you are below service pack 3, you might have > to upgrade. I ahve to go through this again at work and most likely will > do it within the next week. Reply if you want me to take notes. > > David Peterson > > On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0700 Philippe Lewis > writes: > >Filer doesn't seem to work (as opposed to all the others). Anyone > >knows > >what's wrong. When I try to start it, the screen blinks but nothing > >happens. > >I yeah, and I know this was intended for DOS, although everything > >seems to > >be working pretty well... > > > >Or is there an alternative for NT? > > > >Philippe :) > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:24:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. Comments: To: Tamas Feher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Palmtop CIRCUIT? PACI? What are those? Thanks, Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tamas Feher To: Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 10:41 AM Subject: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. > Hello all, > > I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to > harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder. > > Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets > of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be > of any problem to produce the new software packages. > > I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they > promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives. > Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support. > > Bad news is, that he said there wasn't any demo/trial version. > Thus, how the hell will you know, if it worth the money? > The users's manual sections I sent to HPLX-L last year seems > promising, and the company has similar successful products > for Windows; but $80 is just a lot of money. > > Seems like they are pursuing this as a one-time cash income, > rather then a long-term HPLX relationship. I was careless and > "explicitly hinted" that right now 12 copies could be sold. > So they could get app. $1000 this way. IMO, if someone offered > them say $5000, they may sell the rights to PACI; probably > even the source code for a few extra bucks. They dropped DOS. > (They are not fond of the distributor/reseller idea, as their > USA link is not doing its best for some reason.) > > This opinion of mine is based on what the founder/owner > SW architecturist told me: > > "Of all the software projects I did during the back 15 years, > only PACI failed to make market success. We are currently > investigating the market opportunity of a similar application > either for WinCE handhelds or the Win95/98/NT Libretto-likes. > We are geared towards 486/Pentium ultraportables, but the > chance of WinCE being used in real-time systems and indust- > rial applications keeps the debate open. My opinion is, that > PACI failed, because the HP DOS palmtop was way overpriced. > When I first saw the 100LX in 1995, I thought that within > three years every schoolboy will have one in his bag. But > it was expensive. And today you can't defeat M$Win!" > > (BTW, the recent success products of this company for WIN are: > Edison and Tina, which sell OK, but these are for desktops > and include some hardware, eg. prototyping boards, too.) > > He mentioned that once they had talks with H-P to include > PACI with factory new HPLXes. He said the same time H-P > thought about buying a browser, too. IMO, that must refer > to DASoft's WWW/LX. But they couldn't reach an agreement, > because H-P was indecisive, he claimed. When was that, Avi? > > vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv > > *He said that Palmtop Circuit was reviewed sometime in the > *Palmtop Paper (mentioned a "Palmtop Newspaper", but that > *must be Palmtop Paper, IMO). Could someone look it up, please! > *That may give you a clue, if it worth the trouble or not. > > ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ > > Non-standard disclaimer: I have no connection with DesignSoft, > other than being a hungarian myself, I feel it's a patriotic > act to help spreading locally made software among HPLX users. > > Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:24:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Yet another X-Finder Query After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointments and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does display. Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt and Comm icons displayed? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:37:18 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote: > Ý...¨ > I could try to write a program in BASIC that does some sort of line-length > count in each field of the CSV Ýand could eventually get fancy and test for > field type¨, but would any output I could generate interface with anything > out there that would build a .GDB? Or, how hard is it to write a "program" > that would do all that and make the blank .GDB that GDBLOAD could then fill? It is certainly possible to create blank .gdb files from scratch by analyzing the data to import. If this is done, you could immediately load the database too because this is ultimately the easier part. The tricky part is guess the database definition, that includes a definition of each field with + name (short cut key?) + type + size + x/y position on the screen + postitioning on the right card page + conversion from foreign field types At a global level you need to consider + what to do if you have too many fields + arrangement of view points + sorting It's much easier for GDBLOAD and other programs to let someone "design" the database and to load it's conents only. Of course, as soon as the guessed design is modified by the user, the modified database should be used as the template for newly imported data. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:57:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: radio modems In-Reply-To: <199903140814.PNR05559@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > Does anyone still use these with their 200LX? Has the form factor > gotten any smaller or do they still stick out of the side aways? Whats > the power drain like? There aren't really any radio modems that work with the 200LX anymore. I use the Megahertz (oh, excuse me, 3Com) Allpoints card, which sticks out and has a 9V battery in the bulge. The power drain is about 40ma. I use it in my 320LX right now, at least until somebody threatens GoAmerica (www.goamerica.net) enough that they buckle and support the 200LX again. I'd rather have a Ricochet, but it's not available in Las Vegas... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:58:11 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Access (or 123) to GDB? via GDBLOAD or ? Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bennett Todd wrote: > Ý...¨ > The third tool is a csv2gdb converter in perl. It's supposed to build the > indices, so you don't get the "no records found" and need to cycle through the > different subsets in gdb, like you do with gdbload --- but it didn't work when > I flung a big table at it, so I never followed up to see if it worked better > than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script I'm not sure if you're refering to my perl module or not, anyway, it still does not have this overrun-check which is certainly necessary to load large amounts of data but it certainly works quite relyable (at least for me ;) on smaller datasets. > than gdbload for smaller tables. Like gdbload this csv2gdb perl script > requires that the gdb file already exist; it can't build the gdb schema and > viewÝs¨ from scratch. That's still the case with my module. No plans to add this feature soon... +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:15:26 +0200 Reply-To: os@inexnet.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver =?iso-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?= Organization: IneX-Internet GmbH Subject: .abk to .ADB Konverter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, i am new to this list and i have a question. I own an old HP95LX for several years now and am very happy with it. Today i am often using the netscape calendar server for managing my time, so i have to put eache meeting twice in: one in the PC and one in the hp95lx (for beeing mobile). I ve discovered, that the netscape calendar server is able to export and import .ADB-files for HP100LX and 200LX, so i am wondering, if there maybe exists a converter-tool or a tricky method to make a conversion between the old HP95LX .abk-files and the new .ABD-files. I would appreciate any hint. regards, olivers -- --- Oliver Schlueter Windhorst Internet Solutions GmbH http://www.windhorst.de Member of the German VRML/Web3D Users Group (GerVRML/"Web3De e.V") http://www.inexnet.de/ger-vrml --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:35:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Re: What is Palmtop Circuit or PACI? Hello all, I apologize for not providing the background info, when talking about Palmtop Circuit. Here is some info for those not following this old thread previously. What is this software: -Short: It's an electric circuit simulator program with GUI, which runs on HP palmtops or any desktop PC. It is a commercial program made by DesignSoft of Hungary. -Long: Read the first pages of the users' manual archived: PACI is the acronym for Palmtop Circuit, because I got tired typing this long two-word name many times. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:36:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:04:13 -0400, Peniel Romanelli = wrote: > Hi Quinton, Jeff, and group - > > It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that... I've been > using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine. Just changed the line > for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked. > Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF. I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip file in? Maybe I'm not using the right command/key combo to zip a file. So what is the right command/key combo to zip a file > > BTW: Has anybody located TaskBar thats mentioned in the finder.env. > > I'm wondering if its anything like like TaskList? > > Looked thru the vector site, and some other Japanese sites, and came up > empty... Maybe it's only on Nifty-Serve 8-( i'd sure be interested > to see what it is. I did the same thing. (:-) Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:42:10 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Cable? Comments: To: Sputnik MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > Anyone know if anyplace/anyone sells shorter connection cables or custom > made?? i'll even take a place where i can pick up the connection head for > the DOS-LX palmtop look at www.palmtop.net/serial-howto.html if you want to make your own plug! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:45:53 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904141925.OAA20741x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointments > and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does display. > Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt and > Comm icons displayed? > Yes. You have to have the icon correctly named (e.g. appt.icn for Appointments) in the icon.lzh file in c:\_dat or in the icon directory defined in your finder.env file. For the Comm program do de same thing: xxxxx.icn, where xxxx is the name of your .xfe file. Regards Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:17:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:45:53 +0100, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote: > Yes. You have to have the icon correctly named (e.g. appt.icn for > Appointments) in the icon.lzh file in c:\_dat or in the icon directory > defined in your finder.env file. For the Comm program do de same > thing: xxxxx.icn, where xxxx is the name of your .xfe file. Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use the built-in icons like it does for the phone book? 73 es tnx Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:17:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: X-Finder, Wow!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:36:47 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip > file in? Mine is in c:\bin and I have that listed in the .env file. Maybe I should put it in the path instead of trying to just use the .env file to point to it? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:22:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul_Stratton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul_Stratton Subject: Re: Areacode LXMap Repost Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" I'd like to thank Mr. Striegel for the fine job. Would it be possible to share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you made it so much better? I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white. Again, Thanks! paul_stratton@email.msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:05 PM Subject: Areacode LXMap Repost If you retrieved Paul Stratton's areacode.zip file from palmtop.net, please grab it again. Alan Striegel reworked the PCX file to make the city names more visible and it looks much better. ftp://ftp.palmtop.net/pub/maps/areacode.zip -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:04:15 -0400 (EDT) 01h39m14s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > After the initial 'splash' screen upon entering X-Finder, my Appointment= s > and Communications icons don't display. The Phone Book icon does = display. > Are those of you that are playing with X-Finder having your your Appt = and > Comm icons displayed? Hi Jeff- Antonio's answer is basically right. Two questions: Are you setting up the icon screen using a series of .xfe .xfd etc files, or did you change to using the .xpt list format. If you're launching with a .xfe file, you need to give it the same name as the icon. In a .xpt list, the entry next in the line following the command should be the same as the icon. When you add your own new icons, you may need to hit F1 (init). HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:27:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul_Stratton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul_Stratton Subject: Re: LXMap at its best Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job. Would it be possible to share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you made it so much better? I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white. Again, Thanks! paul_stratton@email.msn.com -----Original Message----- From: Striegel, Alan To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 9:29 AM Subject: Re: LXMap at its best The challenge has been answered. There is now a cleaner version of the map (temporarily located at http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/ac.pcx). All of the city names should be more readable. Please check it over and give me any feedback. Mitch, feel free to relocate a copy of this map to the LXMAP page. Alan >From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) ÝSMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨ >Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:23 AM >... >Paul has said that he would offer the original GIF up to anyone who thinks they >can get the image clean enough to see city names rather than just state names. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Zippin' & unzippin' in XF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:16:41 -0400 (EDT) 39m54s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > > It would seem that the PTP article was wrong about that... I've been > > using PKZIP for compression, and it works fine. Just changed the = line > > for "extract from zip" from unzip to PKUNZIP, and that also worked. > > Maybe the article was based on an early version of XF. > > I did that and it still didn't work. What directory is your pkunzip > file in? It's in a:\util (and in the path) > Maybe I'm not using the right command/key combo to zip a file. > So what is the right command/key combo to zip a file (This may also answer Jeff's question, too.) There are probably a lot of ways to do it. What I do is: Mark all the items to go in the .zip To add to an existing .zip - go there and hit copy. OR For a new .zip - after marking, hit copy, and type the path and filename of the new .zip in the dialog box. Also in the "Execution by matched extension, I tried changing unzip to pkunzip - but there you need to change the -l parameter to -z I only tried changing the first .zip line here, though. This works, too No extra parameters in the "extract from zip" line. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:35:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:32:05 -0400 (EDT) 14m25s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just = use > the built-in icons like it does for the phone book? It uses the icons in icon.lzh I'm sure those two are in the file you have, so they they should show up if the command and icon have the same name. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 19:42:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections In-Reply-To: <199903140839.PNR05021@netmedia.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <199903140839.PNR05021@netmedia.net.il>, David Becher writes >I connect to my ISP using Win95, download all my email, copy it over to >my palmtop, write replies, and then send them off by connnecting to my >desktop when I get home. This is simpler than it sounds as most of the >work is done by batch files and shortcuts on my Win95 desktop. This is pretty much how I'd like to work too (and did with the Psion). All my mail in one place at the office, for reference, and take with me the few I'd like to reply to. Then send them from home using BCC to get a reference copy back to my office. BUT using the PC's modem or internet connection, not a PCMCIA jobbie. >What is turnpike? >Would it help me to package my email, for my palmtop? Turnpike is an e-mail & news reader client which comes bundled if you subscribe to a UK ISP called Demon Internet. It seems to work OK. It was, I believe, written by the chap who wrote the LocoScript word processor for the Amstrad PCW. It has the same "from a parallel universe where nothing quite works the same" feel about it, but none the worse for that. Most importantly, it can also act as a POP3 server, which, with the Psion, meant I could "copy" my e-mail to the palmtop simply by collecting it from my desktop PC after it was downloaded from my ISP. I don't know if it would help you though, cos you'll probably get stuck as I did with the connection using the HP. I'm determined to get this set up working one way or another. Every attempt using LX s/w without a modem results in "no response from DNS server" and similar things. I'll persevere and let you know if I get anywhere. -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:40:09 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904142117.QAA07440x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 14 Apr 99, at 16:17, Jeff Johns wrote: > > Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use > the built-in icons like it does for the phone book? > I experienced the same problems as you did at first. By experimenting I discovered that *all* the icons you want have to display with X-Finder have to be stored in the icon.lhz or iconfld.lhz or in the defined icons directory. Further the names of the *.icn files have to follow the rules defined in the documentation: the name of the icon file has to be xxx.icn, where xxx is the extension of the file (e.g. if you want all the xfe to have the same icon you name the icon file xfe.icn) or xxxxx.icn, where xxxxx is the name of the file (e.g. appt.icn for appt.xfe or appt.adb). X-Finder doesn't display the built in icons unless you extract them from apmgr.dat and store them with the apropriate name in the *.lhz or icons directory. Regards Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:44:14 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query In-Reply-To: <199904142128.RAA23437@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 14 Apr 99, at 17:28, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Antonio's answer is basically right. Two questions: Are you setting up > the icon screen using a series of .xfe .xfd etc files, or did you change > to using the .xpt list format. If you're launching with a .xfe file, you > need to give it the same name as the icon. In a .xpt list, the entry next > in the line following the command should be the same as the icon. When > you add your own new icons, you may need to hit F1 (init). > Thanks Peniel. I forgott the *.xpt option. Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:47:29 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904142117.QAA07440x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 14 Apr 99, at 16:17, Jeff Johns wrote: > > Do you have to define the appt icon and comm icon.... doesn't is just use > the built-in icons like it does for the phone book? > Sorry, I forgott. If you look into the icon.lhz file you'll find the phone icon already there. Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:47 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HPLX emulator for the eternity. > Hello all, > > I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE". > OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the > only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation. > > I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic > degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020. > > So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity. > Why not write one in Java? > > Java will work OK on/in future computers and is platform > independent, if properly written. Thus that will run on > Win2068 and BeOS v.9.2.6, just like on St.Linus ver 16.3.5. > No matter if quantum or optical or DNA technology CPU ticks > under the hood, you can have familiar DOS on your screen. > > I don't say, rewrite 1-2-3 or Quicken in Java yourself, just > the realization of on-screen LCD and keyboard display, emu- > lating SysMan and Int5f, etc. Say, the 1000CX version. > > I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU emulator > for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which > seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's > another matter. It should be a good base for the work. > > Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. You are making the rather large assumption that java will be around in 20 years. Also, in 20 years don't you think that something better might just have come along? Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:19:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Sorry... another X-Finder Question Sorry for another X-Finder question, but I'm slowly getting it going, thanks to help from the list members. Peniel or anyone else using list as a file viewer, can you please tell me exactly what the line in the finder.env file looks like? I _think_ I have it installed properly but X-Finder doesn't seem to be passing the file name along to list so that it can view it. 73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:52:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Zippin' & unzippin' in XF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:50 -0400, Peniel Romanelli = wrote: >(This may also answer Jeff's question, too.) > > There are probably a lot of ways to do it. What I do is: > > Mark all the items to go in the .zip > To add to an existing .zip - go there and hit copy. OR > For a new .zip - after marking, hit copy, and type the path and filename > of the new .zip in the dialog box. > > Also in the "Execution by matched extension, I tried changing unzip to > pkunzip - but there you need to change the -l parameter to -z I only > tried changing the first .zip line here, though. This works, too Thank You...Thank You -Peniel, That -z did the trick, Stereo Shell is now shaking in its boots and begging not to deleted. (:-) BTW: I took the easy way out with the PIM's and installed KeyM, plus KeyM is installed on my TaskBar under the F10 DOS key. (:-) Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:24:22 EDT Reply-To: CSchlim@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schilm Subject: HP selling 200LXs again???? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First time I have seen HP advertise in a LONG while!! HP Shopping Village ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:49:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: radio modems In-Reply-To: <199904150156.UAA16392@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 a123456@bitstream.net wrote: > What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or > something or is there no mail interface? Wireless radio services have special software that allows you to access them. They all only support WinCE and PalmPilot now; no more System Manager or DOS programs. Ricochet needs transceivers mounted every quarter-mile on streetlights, so expanding to a city is a big deal for Metricom... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:59:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: FLODRAW? Content-Type: text I just downloaded a copy of flodraw from Simtel - I see that we have an older copy (v2.2 vs. v2.25) on SUPER. Anyone use this on their palmtop? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:01:34 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. Comments: To: Tamas Feher > I again visited DesignSoft office here in Budapest, Hungary to > harass them about Pamtop Circuit - will call it PACI hereunder. > > Appears like they do some action now. They found about 30 sets > of handbook/user's manual already printed, so that shouldn't be > of any problem to produce the new software packages. > > I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they > promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives. > Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support. > Count me in. Where do we send the check? John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:01:38 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP DBF format databases Comments: To: Mack Baggette > Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files. We would need > Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:53:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: LXMap at its best MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sorry if this comes as a disappointment, but there was no magic here. I took the brute force approach and erased every city name then re-created them pixel-by-pixel using Corel PhotoPaint. Overall time required: ~2.5 hours. In fact, I had to look up several of them on other maps to be sure. I tried converting and enhancing the original color image with several graphics utilities and came to the conclusion that nothing could pull the city names out of the mud. Then it was a matter of deciding how to re-create the city names with the least amount of work. While I considered creating a custom tiny font and using that to type in the names, the time involved in making the font would have exceeded what I put into the pixel-at-a-time hand re-work I did. Alan >From: Paul_Stratton ÝSMTP:Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM¨ >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:28 PM >I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job. Would it be possible to >share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you >made it so much better? I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a >palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:43:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: HP DBF format databases Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: <199904150156.UAA16371@bitstream.net>; from John Musielewicz on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 10:01:38PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-15-02:01:38 John Musielewicz: > What's a DBF format file? Normally found with a .dbf file extension, it's the file format introduced by dBase II lo these many years ago; a simple fixed-record-length table format with fixed-width columns, after a header; there are a couple of Perl modules for manipulating it (Xbase and DBD::XBase), and the XBase(3) man page (from the DBD::XBase release) includes a reference to file format documentation at . -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:39:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: HP DBF format databases In-Reply-To: <00d101be868e$2ece42a0$0400a8c0@times2tech.com>; from Mack Baggette on Wed, Apr 14, 1999 at 10:48:02AM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-14-15:48:02 Mack Baggette: > I was thinking that what the palmtop really needs is EXM > Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files. I've been harboring a vaguely similar thought, with a couple of differences. EXM would certainly be nice, but I'm much more keenly interested in portable open source, so I coud run the same PIMs on the same data files on my Unix workstation, on my LX as-is, or on my LX under Minix. And I'd be happier with a different file format. I've been thinking in terms of starting with CSV; adding support for external indices, where the CSV file can only be appended-to without having to rebuild the indices (i.e. no in-place updates); an external index would simply be an n+1-column file, where the first n columns are the key the index is providing, and the final column would be the byte offset in the CSV file of the record. So a single "database" would be multiple files, indices could be binary-searched, and all the on-disk files would be amenable to a really fast, hugely effective huffman compression. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:22:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: HPLX emulator for the eternity. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:28:47 EST > From: "Peter W. Borders" > Subject: Re: HPLX emulator for the eternity. > > > I saw a thread here about "HP 200LX emulator for the WinCE". > > OK, CE is not the best, a man can imagine; but some day the > > only was to use a HPLX will be via emulation. > > > > I mean, HP quits manufacturing it in after 2000 and plastic > > degrades with time, so it'll be hard to pocket an LX in 2020. > > > > So an LX-emulator, that lasts forever is a necessity. > > Why not write one in Java? < snip > > > I heard, there is a work to rewrite Bochs (the x86 CPU emulator > > for Unix and WinNT, currently in C++) into Java code. Which > > seems hard to justify, as it'll be terribly slow, but that's > > another matter. It should be a good base for the work. > > > > Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. > > You are making the rather large assumption that java will be around > in 20 years. Also, in 20 years don't you think that something better > might just have come along? > > Pete > Also that even if it's still around it'll look anything like the current version. Tried recompiling FORTRAN IV programs under current compilers recently? Or even Fortran 77 (from the same vendor, of course). Or check out the changes to ANSI C over time. You *can* write portable code in *many* languages, it's still write once, debug anywhere regardless of the language, including Java. The only good x86 emulator's another x86 chip. Failing that, a good systems development language (and the corporate world is learning that Java isn't one - http://www.byte.com/features/1999/04/0405java.html). Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:02:37 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: TECH: PAL library and single choice list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices. Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single choice from a list? Regards, Paulo Custodio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:55:26 +0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Juha Husgafvel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juha Husgafvel Subject: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 Port with PAL extensions Content-Type: text Hello! I have made available a port of Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions at: http://www.tuug.org/~hysky If there are any problems please report them to me, not Larry Wall! Happy hacking, -- /hysky (hysky@tuug.org) j.h.husgafvel Have you tried McSquared, the pure-energy fast food? http://www.tuug.org/~hysky ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Communications in X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder? If so can you share your configuration? TIA Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz e Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/AntonioMenezes "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:37:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Dumpster diving... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no docs though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to get a life... Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide between Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-( I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian... An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel 2.1, it is a neural net thing. And some other old junk... :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:32 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Advice sought on HP200 e-mail connections Comments: To: Chris Randle Chris Randle writes: > I'm determined to get this > set up working one way or another. Every attempt using LX s/w without a > modem results in "no response from DNS server" and similar things. I'll > persevere and let you know if I get anywhere. If you really are determined to get this to work, and you're not scared by TCP/IP utilities that don't have a GUI, then send me an email off the list with a summary of your win95 setup, and exactly what you want to achieve, and I'll see if LXTCP/PNR in conjunction with a proxy server on Win95 can be used to do what you want. You can certainly do this with Linux by using PPP from the palmtop to the Linux box via a serial link. I don't know if there is a PPP server available for Win95. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:53:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Simple HTML editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a simple TEXT html editor for DOS (doesnt need color or gfx) just something to cut and paste or edit HTML stuff but has to do so under HTML format of course (otherwise id use any text editor) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 06:39:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Psion5 vs. hp200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: 2) Slightly more flexible (for me) e-mail abilities What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing for ideas to improve POST/LX). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:08:34 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: HP DBF format databases Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John Musielewicz At a guess 8-) Data Base File Regards......Liam Bunbury, Western Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:13:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Creating Archive w/ Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay gang, I'm now attempting to learn how to create an archive (.zip) file using Finder. Following the supplied instructions, it says to mark the file(s) that you wish to archive with the space bar then go to the directy you wish to place the archive, press F5, enter the filename of the archive, the press F2 then OK to create the archive. In real life I can't seem to get these instructions to work. When I mark the files I want archived then go to the directory I want to place the archive and press F5 I get a window that says "Go to: c:\somedirectoryname". Any ideas or suggestions from the Finder experts? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:28:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:35:35 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > It uses the icons in icon.lzh I'm sure those two are in the file you > have, so they they should show up if the command and icon have the same > name. This may be a silly question, but what are the commands for the appointment and communication applications? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:28:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Sorry... another X-Finder Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:35 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Here it is (list is in the path): > > #Viewer setting (lex, le, vvc, miel, etc) > %v ,200u ,list I am pleased to report that I now have LIST working properly along with UNZIP . My next mission is to see if I can get it to zip up files and create an archive. Will PKZIP work or will I need a generic zipping program? X-Finder is an extremely powerful utility and I think that it will replace Stereo Shell in the near future. I never thought I would replace STS, but I truly believe that X-Finder is more powerful. I encourage everybody to give it a try and to please bear with me as I ask all the questions I have been posing to the list. The learning curve for Finder is a bit steep, at least it is for me, but I'm beginning to understand how it works. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:28:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:41:59 -0400, Tamas Feher wrote: > I have to call them back tomorrow 1600 GMT, by which time they > promised to retrieve the actual software from tape archives. > Price is fixed at 80 (eighty) USD. There won't be support. Tamas, we are all grateful for the work you have done in trying to acquire PACI for us. I mentioned that I was interested in a copy, but at $80, I don't think I can shell that amount out without some type of demo version or at least a report from another LX user. I would love for Chris Lott, whom is an engineer, or Mack, who is the 'LX Master' to do a review of the software. I would be a casual user of it, mainly designing and playing with various radio circuits. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:15:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Rever4 reverse screen problem >Then I would suggest Keystuff? It's also on the S.U.P.E.R. site. Keystuff >will put keystrokes in the keyboard buffer that get "executed" after the end >of the next DOS command. > >Phil Thanks, Phil! Why didn't I think to look for a util like that which was written specifically for the HP200LX?! I've used shareware/freeware DOS utils like that before, but since I believed that the HP200LX used proprietary scan codes, I didn't just assume that anyone had written a keyboard stuffing utility specifically for the HP200LX. :-) I'll go check it out soon. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: HP DBF format databases Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Phone/Appt/Notetaker/Database frontends for DBF format files. We would need > > > > Sorry for the dumb question but what's a DBF format file? John Musielewicz DBF is the dBase format which is importable by a large number of database programs. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:31:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Password Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was installing Jkit (Japanese environment)which uses EMS and the EMS install file was corrupt. I have fixed that problem but for some reason I can't seem to get my password back. I go to DOS and set and confirm it but when I shut off my palmtop and turn it back on it is not password protected. I also did a dir/ah on my C drive and somehow lost the hidden alarm file. I ran Norton Utilities, Defrag and Scandisk and also reinitialized my C drive twice. Everything else is working fine. It's an original 4 mg drive. Does anyone know how I can get my password back? TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:04:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Sorry... another X-Finder Question Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:58:09 -0400 (EDT) 02h37m56s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > can you please tell me > exactly what the line in the finder.env file looks like? > X-Finder doesn't seem to be passing the file name > along to list so that it can view it. Here it is (list is in the path): #Viewer setting (lex, le, vvc, miel, etc) %v=09,200u=09,list Also these lines (in the "execution by matching extension" section): .txt =09,f=09,a:\list\list.com %c .doc =09,f=09,a:\list\list.com %c The full path is probably unnecessary here. This works for me. Just hit Enter on a text file, or the View F-key on anything, and it opens the file in List. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:03:28 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: radio modems Comments: To: David Sargeant > threatens GoAmerica (www.goamerica.net) enough that they buckle and > support the 200LX again. > > I'd rather have a Ricochet, but it's not available in Las Vegas... What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or something or is there no mail interface? John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:03:31 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Psion5 vs. hp200lx Comments: To: Phil Drummond I too would. On the same lines, I read on the Web that LCD manufacturers are advancing on a new "thin-film" lcd material thats supposed to use about 1/10th the power of the present materials. Coupled with a low power lcd backlight it would be an excellant replacement screen for the present one. John > I too would drop serious money for a backlight. Make it work without > external attachments, and I don't care if a 30 second use from time-to-time > effects the total life of a charge on batteries. Most of the time I can get > to additional power easier than I can see in the dark. If the price of a > backlight upgrade went as high as $200 I would still be interested. > > Phil > > BTW, M$ spell check wants to change the spelling of Psion5 to "Poison"... > wonder what that's all about. :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Randle ÝSMTP:chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK¨ > > > > > > 7) Backlight. And if anybody technical and commercial is reading this, I > > for one would pay proper money (not $1 - $50) to have a proper backlight > > on the HP200. I used it in murky pubs, and to read in bed at night > > without disturbing my wife. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:51:38 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: How much curren does the Psion V34+fax Gold card use/draw MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit See subject. I got it from a friend and have no manual...can not find anything on the web regarding power"draw"... Thanks in advance -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:13:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hey, I'm 40 in a month or two and I still do that. Dumpster diving is entertaining, profitable, and good training for when I'm too old to work! :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Franklin ÝSMTP:franklin@ONLINE.NO¨ > > Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to get > a life... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Communications in X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote: > Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder? > If so can you share your configuration? You can go to the WWW.bat (I love the bat icon) and hit enter then type -d !post and it will launch, but there's not enough memory to run my external editor. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. In-Reply-To: <199904150328.WAA02066x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Apr 14, 99 10:28:19 pm Content-Type: text > PACI for us. I mentioned that I was interested in a copy, but at $80, I > don't think I can shell that amount out without some type of demo version or > at least a report from another LX user. I would love for Chris Lott, whom is > an engineer, or Mack, who is the 'LX Master' to do a review of the software. > I would be a casual user of it, mainly designing and playing with various > radio circuits. If I ever get a copy, I'll be glad to post a review. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:44:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Urgent: Palmtop CIRCUIT update, long post. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:51 -0500, "R. Christopher Lott" wrote: > If I ever get a copy, I'll be glad to post a review. I6m glad you took the hint . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Nestor A. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nestor A. Ramirez" Subject: Re: radio modems WYNDNET/WYNDMAIL still supports the HP200LX. I have one of their 3COM radio modems and get great results in large cities, not so great in secluded rural areas. It is supposed to work in ~94% of US urban areas, and supossedly has the coverage of the RIM network, which it uses. Cost: basically dependes on whether you buy or "lease (pay for it over time)" the modem, and your usage. I "lease" and have light usage and pay ~$70.00/month. I can sedn-receive faxes, emails, and send messages to alphanumeric pages. I can also get conversion to voice of my written messages. The people at WYND have always been very supportive and helpful AND knowledgeable about the HP. -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 8:55 PM Subject: Re: radio modems >On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 a123456@bitstream.net wrote: > >> What do they need to support? Is there a certain file format or >> something or is there no mail interface? > >Wireless radio services have special software that allows you to access >them. They all only support WinCE and PalmPilot now; no more System >Manager or DOS programs. > >Ricochet needs transceivers mounted every quarter-mile on streetlights, so >expanding to a city is a big deal for Metricom... > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:05:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul_Stratton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul_Stratton Subject: Re: LXMap at its best Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" Again, Thanks for such a great job. I, and many others, really appreciate the effort you took to perform the enhancement. Every so often things just have to be done using the brute force approach. Especially when you are changing something to perform a task for which that something was not originally intended. I'm sure the creator of the original picture never had any intention of the picture being used on a black and white system. -----Original Message----- From: Striegel, Alan To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:06 AM Subject: Re: LXMap at its best Sorry if this comes as a disappointment, but there was no magic here. I took the brute force approach and erased every city name then re-created them pixel-by-pixel using Corel PhotoPaint. Overall time required: ~2.5 hours. In fact, I had to look up several of them on other maps to be sure. I tried converting and enhancing the original color image with several graphics utilities and came to the conclusion that nothing could pull the city names out of the mud. Then it was a matter of deciding how to re-create the city names with the least amount of work. While I considered creating a custom tiny font and using that to type in the names, the time involved in making the font would have exceeded what I put into the pixel-at-a-time hand re-work I did. Alan >From: Paul_Stratton ÝSMTP:Paul_Stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM¨ >Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 5:28 PM >I'd like to thank you Mr. Striegel for the fine job. Would it be possible to >share with me, and the HPLX group, how you converted the picture and how you >made it so much better? I'd like to know, as I am sure most of us with a >palmtop, how to better convert color pictures to black and white. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:14:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Finder Archiving Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Although I have figured out how to have Finder automaticlly create a .zip archive, I have found that I can mark the items that I want archived then press F10 then enter the command pkzip followed by the name that I want to name the archive and the archive will be created in the directory where I have the cursor. Now I just have to figure out how to get Finder to do that automatically with having to manually type the pkzip command. Does anyone have any suggestions? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:03:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Vincent Rikkink Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Vincent Rikkink Organization: XEMICS S.A. Subject: Motorola Cellect1+ and HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with: Not using Card Services. Modem initialisation failed Please re-run with /D option to diagnose With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been inserted. When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then.... my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920. I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone switches off. Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data/fax facilities of my provider (Swisscom). Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone Thanks, Vincent Rikkink ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:11:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: radio modems In-Reply-To: <011e01be874e$cbec1c40$860ffed0@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Nestor A. Ramirez wrote: > WYNDNET/WYNDMAIL still supports the HP200LX. No, they don't. They still support existing users, but they don't accept new 200LX and Wyndmail customers at all. They're pushing their Wyndtell communications device... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:57:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: T2T Memory is indestructible. Comments: To: "david.eggins@USA.NET" re: >I then put everything back, turned on, set up the drivers on the >original 2mb drive, and rebooted. >To my absolute amazement, there was all the data on my T2T 32mb drive >staring back at me! I've been "blessed" by that factor! In your case you were trying to get rid of the data; in my case the palmtop tried to get rid of it for me and failed ;-) ! <-- My bttys. died and, when I put fresh cells in, it did a hard reset Ýlike CTL-ALT-ON¨ and didn't give me the option to not format the RAM! The great thing was, after Dave at Thaddeus emailed me the proper drivers (I was several states away from my backup), all that I thought was lost was on the restored C: drive. I was tickled! I don't count on the "indestructibility" to get me out of every jam, but it was great that once! --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:00:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: TECH: PAL library and single choice list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paulo Custodio wrote: > I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the > user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL > called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices. > > Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single > choice from a list? You might want to try the menu functions. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:56:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Sorry... another X-Finder Question Comments: cc: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> When the dust settles and all the kinks are worked out, would anybody like to write an updated review for THE HP PALMTOP PAPER of X-Finder? It would be a combo of what the program can do (maybe best expressed in how someone uses it) and as sidebar, installation/setup info. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:57:37 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Motorola Cellect1+ and HP200LX Comments: To: Vincent Rikkink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the 200LX supports socket services and that card services is a device driver function that sits on top of socket services. Thats the way it is on my Aero. Vincent Rikkink wrote: > I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the > Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the > driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with: > > Not using Card Services. > Modem initialisation failed > Please re-run with /D option to diagnose > > With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been > inserted. > > When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes > > the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then.... > my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920. > > I tried different initializations, etc. etc. but everytime my phone > switches off. > > Ofcourse, I subscribed to the data/fax facilities of my provider > (Swisscom). > > Could anyone help me how I can use a GSM PCMCIA card with my HP200LX > palmtop and my cellular Motorola phone > > Thanks, > Vincent Rikkink > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Creating Archive w/ Finder Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:43:49 -0400 (EDT) 10h29m59s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Following the supplied instructions, it says to mark the > file(s) that you wish to archive with the space bar then go to the = directy > you wish to place the archive, press F5, enter the filename of the = archive, > the press F2 then OK to create the archive. > > In real life I can't seem to get these instructions to work. When I = mark the > files I want archived then go to the directory I want to place the = archive > and press F5 I get a window that says "Go to: c:\somedirectoryname". You've almost got it. 8-) When you see the GoTo "whatever". hit backspace to delete "whatever" and type a name for your archive. Then hit F2 (Copy) and OK or Enter and that's it. Actually, I don't think you even need to do the backspace. If you just start typing when the GoTo window opens, it should erase "whatever" and put your file name in. Or you could do it the way I do -- described in the first "Zippin' etc." post. It's a little different, and maybe easier. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:06:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Yet another X-Finder Query Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:34:53 -0400 (EDT) 11h06m32s ago ... On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > This may be a silly question, but what are the commands for the appointm= ent > and communication applications? Not silly at all. If you're using .xfe to set up program launches try this: Use your editor and write this line: $m {xb000} and save it as appt.xfe do the same thing for datacomm but change the part in curly brackets to xb200 and save as comm.xfe That should do it. Same idea works for any built-in app or .exm registered in AppMgr or MoreEXM. The part in curly brackets will be the letter x and the hex code for the hotkey. If you have KeyM from SUPER, it makes it easy to look up the hotkey codes. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:07:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: XF: More on using .zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Hi again folks... For those caught up in "Findermania", here's some more stuff on using PKUNZIP. I played around a little with this and made some changes in the .env file. In the .zip part of "Execution by matched extension", try this: .zip=09,k=09,pkunzip -v %c =09,200+lt=09,pkunzip %c -d %t\%x;%t\%x|\ =09,200+lc=09,pkunzip %c -d %m The first line changes unzip to pkunzip, and the -l parameter to -v. The second line is the same as the original except for changing to pkunzip. It unzips to c:\trash\(a subdirectory with the same name as the .zip). (Do ÝShift¨ÝEnter¨) The third line is a major change. The old line seemed pretty useless to me, so this one will do a quick unzip of the whole archive to the opposite side of the screen. (Do ÝCtrl¨ÝEnter¨). All these assume pkunzip is in your path. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:05:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Dumpster diving... Comments: To: Franklin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I wouldn't mind playing around with Braincell. How much for it? Thanks, Philippe ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Franklin To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:37 AM Subject: Dumpster diving... > Hi all, > > Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no docs > though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to get > a life... > > Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide between > Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-( > > I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian... > > An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel 2.1, > it is a neural net thing. > > And some other old junk... :-) > > > br > > Franklin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:00:08 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: Dec->Hex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Is there a way to calculate hex-numbers from decimal entries in the HP Calc? I tried several things but I didn't find it (now I'm not eactly a math-miracle). Did I overlook anything? Thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:25:47 -0700 Reply-To: Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: Re: Dec->Hex Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the 200lx there is included a program called hexcalc that does that and more. Look at d:\bin\hexcalc.exm -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com -----Original Message----- From: Jasper de Jong To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:11 AM Subject: Dec->Hex >Hi! > >Is there a way to calculate hex-numbers from decimal entries in the HP >Calc? I tried several things but I didn't find it (now I'm not eactly a >math-miracle). >Did I overlook anything? > >Thanks >jasper > >-- >jsdejong@wxs.nl >http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong > >OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:58:21 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Dumpster diving... Comments: To: Philippe Lewis hi Philippe, Don't know really. Answered somebody else first, your second. Where do you live? What is it worth to you/what could you trade? this is version 1.2, requires excel+win3.0, looks complete. I'm located in Oslo, Norway. br Franklin -----Original Message----- From: Philippe Lewis To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: 15. april 1999 20:05 Subject: Re: Dumpster diving... >Hi, > >I wouldn't mind playing around with Braincell. How much for it? > >Thanks, > >Philippe ;) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Franklin >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 1:37 AM >Subject: Dumpster diving... > > >> Hi all, >> >> Found several complete Excel 2.10 diskette packages in a dumpster, no docs >> though. Think about it, 33 and still diving in dumpsters! About time to >get >> a life... >> >> Anyway, thought I would try it on the palmtop, now I have to decide >between >> Minix and everything else on my 32 MB CF card... :-( >> >> I also found a complete Works 2.0, but it is in Norwegian... >> >> An old Excel add-in called Braincell, don't know if it works with Excel >2.1, >> it is a neural net thing. >> >> And some other old junk... :-) >> >> >> br >> >> Franklin >> >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:45:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCarson@ORST.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mina Carson Subject: 200LX vs. Psion Series 5 Yeah Chris! The readers of this list listened to ME go on and on when I made a similar move to Psion Series 5 and then scuttled back again to the 200lx. You cited some reasons I forgot that were equally potent to me, like the "made-up" feel of the software, its internal inconsistency, the fragility of the Psion case, the unreadability of the screen (so murky compared to the HP), my homesickness for the LX database, the truly profligate and unwieldy way the internal architecture stores data here and there, the comparatively short battery life, etc., etc. You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion, but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and my own and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a big ol' program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.). I'm not sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I can't remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're interested. Mina Carson mcarson@orst.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:46:03 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ >Hey, I'm 40 in a month or two and I still do that. Dumpster diving >is entertaining, profitable, and good training for when I'm too old >to work! :) >Phil Hey, I'm 43, (birthday last monday!) and I firmly believe some men's rubbish is another man's gold. I picked up a 1989 Sanyo 8088 luggable from a roadside junk pile, it has a 360k floppy, 20meg HD and was running Dos 3.0 and a run-time Excel 2.01 and apart from weighing in at about 50 lbs, it works a treat! The original owner was a boatyard downtown Auckland, and when I contacted them, they said they remembered it fondly, as it was the "Bleeding-edge" of computational power back then, and they paid $8,750.00 NZ for it. If only there was a way to find out about all the unused, unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used in draws just pining for a loving owner... David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: Simple HTML editor Comments: To: Sputnik In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have one called TransText-96, a "hypertext word processor" At 12:53 AM 4/15/99 -0400, you wrote: > Is there a simple TEXT html editor for DOS (doesnt need color or gfx) >just something to cut and paste or edit HTML stuff but has to do so under >HTML format of course (otherwise id use any text editor) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:19:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: derive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable JM wrote: > I am trying to multiply two vectors in derive. It isn't doing > it right because I am setting it up wrong. Can someone explain > how to do it? I'd look in the manual only I don't have one. See the following links for general derive manual type info. http://cedar.evansville.edu/~mg3/derive/program.html http://www.etown.edu/home/math/labs.shtml http://www.math.okstate.edu/archives/books.html http://www.can.nl/SystemsOverview/General/Derive/grandtour/derive.html And of course, http://www.derive.com About vector multiplication, the manual (win hlp file) says: Use the * (times) operator or implicit multiplication to multiply each element of a vector by a scalar. Use the / operator to divide each element of a vector by a scalar. For example, 3 Ý2=B7x, -5, x¬2¨ simplifies to Ý6=B7x, -15, 3=B7x¬2¨ Use the . (period) infix operator to compute the dot product (also called the inner product) of vectors and matrices. To prevent a period used for the dot product operator from being interpreted as a decimal point, use a space to separate the period from numbers that immediately precede or follow it. The * operator or implicit multiplication can also be used to compute dot products provided the operands are vectors or have variables that have been declared nonscalar (see the Declare Variable Domain command). The dot product of two vectors (also called the scalar product) is the sum of the products of corresponding elements of the vectors. The dimensions of the vectors must be the same. Note that the result is a scalar. For example, Ý2, a, 5¨ =B7 Ý2=B7a, 3, -1¨ simplifies to 7=B7a - 5 The dot product of a matrix and a vector is the vector whose elements are the dot product of the vector and the rows of the matrix. The dimension of the vector must be the same as the dimension of the rows of the matrix. For example, ÝÝa, b¨, Ýc, d¨¨ =B7 Ý2, 3¨ display as Ý a b ¨ | | =B7 Ý2, 3¨ Ý c d ¨ =A0 and simplifies to Ý2=B7a + 3=B7b, 2=B7c + 3=B7d¨ The dot product of a vector and a matrix is the vector whose elements are the dot product of the vector and the columns of the matrix. The dimension of the vector must be the same as the dimension of the matrix. For example, Ý2, 3¨ =B7 ÝÝa, b¨, Ýc, d¨¨ display as Ý a b ¨ Ý2, 3¨ =B7 | | Ý c d ¨ and simplifies to Ý2=B7a + 3=B7c, 2=B7b + 3=B7d¨ Use CROSS to compute the cross product of two vectors. Both vectors must have three elements or both must have two elements. For example, CROSS(Ý1, 2, 3¨, Ýa, b, c¨) simplifies to Ý2=B7c - 3=B7b, 3=B7a - c, b - 2=B7a¨ and CROSS(Ý1, 2¨, Ýa, b¨) simplifies to b - 2=B7a ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:19:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Juha Husgafvel wrote: > I have made available a port of Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions > at: > http://www.tuug.org/~hysky > Wow. Very nice. Does this Perl compile or remain interpreted? What is the distribution rights of code I generate with it? I also noticed the Win95 Filer on your web page. Is this an older or newer program? Is it meant to compete/replace Transfile200? ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:22:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Donglok Kim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donglok Kim Subject: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andreas Garzotto wrote: > What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing > for ideas to improve POST/LX). > Andreas 1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail, so that I can change the Subject line easier for me to remember the content of the e-mails? I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already available in it... Outlook98 has this capability - very convenient. 2. The same capability for "sent mailbox". I am using pine and I found it would be nicer if I can edit out the attachment for the "sent mail", archiving only the message part only in sent mailbox. 3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability - Is it only for viewing or does it really save the mails in that order? In pine, it is only for viewing, so I have to change the viewing option every time I open the mail folder. This would be convenient if I saved mails in the mail folder in a random order in received order but I want to see the folder in received order. Or, each mail folder could have its associated viewing options... Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-) Donglok Kim ICSL (Image Computing Systems Lab) ----------------------------------------------------------------- University of Washington | Phone) 206-543-2168 Dept. of Electrical Engineering | FAX) 206-543-3842 Box 352500 | dong@icsl.ee.washington.edu Seattle, WA 98195-2500 | http://icsl.ee.washington.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 18:36:20 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Derive Hi Does anyone know the latest version to run on the DOS LX and where I could get a copy? Also is there a version of Matlab or Mathamatica that works? Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:40:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Derive In-Reply-To: <199903151836.PNR02073@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > Does anyone know the latest version to run on the DOS LX and where I > could get a copy? Also is there a version of Matlab or Mathamatica > that works? Thanks. The latest version of Derive that works on the 200LX is whatever the latest DOS version is-- 4.11 was the latest I've seen. The information at the end of my article in the latest Palmtop Paper says that it's $199 or $69 for students and faculty. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:51:44 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: 200LX vs. Psion Series 5 Comments: To: MCarson@ORST.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit . You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion, >but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and my own >and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the >blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a big ol' >program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.). I'm not >sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I can't >remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're interested. >Mina Carson>mcarson@orst.edu Hi Mina, I'm interested in the Psion being an old Psion LX64 user before I upgraded to the HP200 (a turbo LX with 6Mb Ram). The main reason for my interest is that I wrote some engineering OPL programs on the LX64 which I've been told with minor re-work will run on the Series 5. What sort of figure did you have in mind. Best regards.....Liam Bunbury, Western Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:43:55 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Sorry... another X-Finder Question Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >When the dust settles and all the kinks are worked out, would anybody >like to write an updated review for THE HP PALMTOP PAPER of X-Finder? >It would be a combo of what the program can do (maybe best expressed in >how someone uses it) and as sidebar, installation/setup info. >Hal at Thaddeus I second that, but as I don't subscribe to the Palmtop Paper (I know - "shame on you 8-) ), I think if it was posted to Super as either a txt reference file or posted as a web page. I must admit to being envious, about all these oohs and aahs about x-finder, time is the only thing stopping me downloading and playing with it.....yet! Best regards to all and have a good weekend......Liam Bunbury, Western Australia (still enjoying 30C + days) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:00:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: 200LX vs. Psion Series 5 Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" In-Reply-To: <008701be879b$80075f40$a0ac0ecb@ir1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is also a 8086/8088 emulator for Psion5 thou not good for any type of graphic stuff it does run standard TEXT and COMM apps ok ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:06:29 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: POST/LX Hello Does anyone know if news/lx supports multiple news servers? Also what is a good way of using the clipboard under SysMan and with SC sessions? I would like to be able to cut andpaste in whatever session I am in--is that possible? Also does anyone know if the keys Fn+cut, etc will work under dos? Is there a dos tsr that will keep the clipboard open in dos? Thks! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:12:58 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: LXMAP menu layer Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Stefan wrote: >> The free power menu program is only 3KB in size. >> Download from: >> http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip I've tried a number of times to get to this URL but always get Error 404 '...Host not responding'. Is it correct? TIA Roger Whitmarsh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:18:37 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Anyone wants to sell his SC? I don't know if answered this already, but I don't know if it does. It creates a virtual independant machine for each session so I think you would need a clipboard tsr to do it. Don E. Weatherly writes: > Does DR-DOS permit cut & paste between programs loaded in sessions/windows? > > At 03:17 AM 4/9/99 +0200, you wrote: > I switched to Dr-DOS which has built-in task switching and multitasking so > I don't need it. Would you be interested in that? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:30:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Sorry... another X-Finder Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:56:31 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote: > and as sidebar, installation/setup info. That's gonna be one great big sidebar . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:30:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Perl versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Some questions to you Perl hotshots: 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9 and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) Books I see are usually for Perl 5. 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and relevance to Palmtop? 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the requesting user? 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable? Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of us here are hungry for this kind of info. Thank you in advance! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:14:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: Donglok Kim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > 1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail, so that I can > change the Subject line easier for me to remember the content of the > e-mails? I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already > available in it... Outlook98 has this capability - very convenient. Just edit it! :) Post/LX will incredulously ask you if you really mean it, but will simply fire up the editor and go for it. > 2. The same capability for "sent mailbox". I am using pine and I found it > would be nicer if I can edit out the attachment for the "sent mail", > archiving only the message part only in sent mailbox. Same. There is a direct command to remove attachments from an inbox message. The out box messages do not contain the actual attachment, only the file name. > 3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability - Is it only for viewing or > does it really save the mails in that order? In pine, it is only for The physical message file (.i) does not change. What is sorted is the index to that file. > viewing, so I have to change the viewing option every time I open the mail > folder. This would be convenient if I saved mails in the mail folder in a No, if you sort that order remains until you resort. Each file has own index. > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-) I think the best idea is for you to download the package, install it, and play with it. It is the real live full code. The only limitation is that in online sessions it cuts off at 16K bytes transmitted (including all the bytes, protocol, handshake, bla bla...) But asdie from it, you have it all there.. Your suggestions are going in the good direction, I am sure of it, because they all already implemented. But maybe you'll come up with the "killer features" _after_ you get to play with the actual programs, so I encourage you to do it... Thanks for the thoughts! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:24:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a pleasure to try to be of help to someone who so regularly helps others. While I hardly qualify as a `hotshot' I have done a fair amount of PERL on NT/95 and Dos (incl HP200) environments. Quick overview: I see two dimensions of differences: (1) Windows vs. DOS based (2) Pre-Object Perl vs Object-Perl The first is particularly important v-a-v the `longfilename' question. While all the Perls I have seen will run fine in NT or 95 DOS Windows, you see an important behavioral difference in what you get when you `readdir' for example. In the PERL on the NTResourceKit, for example, readdir produces full (long) filenames. Most of the other Perls I have tried produce (8.3) Filenames. This, of course, can cause some difficulties for RE searches for files, etc. The second dimension, Pre/Post Object, represents the step from the V4 Perls into the V5 Perls. V4 Perls did not have `objects' or pointer operations like `->'. I recall there are some other much more subtle differences, but they have never seemed to bother my code much (perhaps I was just lucky). I'm sure someone can point you to a list of specifics, but I doubt if they would influence choice of which to use much. V5 also introduced `packages' and much more sophisticated `module' management. I believe that all V4 Perls are `short filename', although I am not positive of this. It is fair to say, I think, that some V4 Perls tend to be quite a bit samller than the V5s, so that all of the implementations that run on the 200Lx, for example, are V4. I'll intersperse a few further comments below... A Meshar wrote: > > Some questions to you Perl hotshots: > > 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9 > and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) > > Books I see are usually for Perl 5. > > 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and > relevance to Palmtop? > I'd guess that you're pretty much restricted to a V4 implementation for use on the 200Lx. I don't know enough about specific version differences to say much more. I use a 4.0.1.6 (dated 92.03.01) which is 353,568 bytes. My 4.0.1.8 (dated 93.02.05) is 610,223 bytes, but I don't know of anything it does that the smaller one doesn't (I'm sure there are some things, but I haven't run into them). The V5 versions are also in the 600K range. > > 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW > environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind > the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated > when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. > There are several Perl-CGI `packages' as well as some `Active Perl' support that is quite relevant to running rather sophisticated Web sites. There is also some discussion about how `dangerous' this all is from a security standpoint. > > 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? > > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the > requesting user? > I'd say `sure', although I haven't done much of this myself. It strikes me as a `natural' for PERL though. > > 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the > data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output > and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be > displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form > and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the > stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable? > I surely think so, but I'd rather leave this to someone with more knowledge than me. > > Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of > us here are hungry for this kind of info. > > Thank you in advance! > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > I hope this at least starts to help. I look forward to further answers as well. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:29:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Kramer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Kramer Subject: Re: Perl versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > Some questions to you Perl hotshots: > > 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9 > and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) > > Books I see are usually for Perl 5. > > 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and > relevance to Palmtop? Perl 5 is worlds more advanced than 4.0.36. Lots of object-oriented and variable scoping stuff was added. As a business tool, it became much more powerful. I doubt you will mourn not having those features on your palmtop. Not sure of the differences between 4.0.16 and 4.19, because I've never seen a 4.19 DOS version. If you have one, and it works on the palmtop, I'd certainly be willing to research the differences if you could get me a copy. > 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW > environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind > the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated > when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. You are referring to CGI programs (Common Gateway Interface). You tell your web server that for certain types of files, instead of sending the contents of the file to the web browser, they should be executed, being fed certain data from the browser, and their output should be sent to the web browser. You can do that in any language, really, it's just that some are more suited for it than others. I have CGI scripts on my server written in regular bourne shell, awk, compiled C, and perl. > 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? Perl can do almost any platform-independent thing you can think of. It's main strengths are: - Incredibly easy and powerful string handling - Very powerful regular expression searching and replacing - Automatic memory allocation/garbage collection - It's compiles at runtime, so you can just edit and run - Loose variable type checking and automatic casting to whatever you can dream up - Connectivity to most databases - Cenvenient text file handling Website programming usually involves string manipulation and searching submitted text for characters, so it's a natural for websites. On the other hand, C is horrible at both. Of course C is faster, though. There is an extremely large library of categorized libraries (called packages in Perl) and routines at http://www.cpan.org (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) to perform any kind of math, manipulate strings, serve any IP protocol or connect to them as a client, process log files, you name it. May of these would be unusable in a 4.0 perl, but web sites use lots of them. In fact, almost all perl-based web sites use CGI.pm, which handles the passing in and out of values in CGI scripts, and automatically generates a lot of the HTML for handling forms. Most UNIX-based websites use perl, but not always exclusively. > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the > requesting user? Absolutely. The last two companies I worked for used perl scripts to run their entire web products, reading databases and processing input as needed. There were almost no HTML files; everything was generated live by the perl scripts. > 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the > data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output > and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be > displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form > and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the > stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable? That's what Tiggers do best! Ask me offline for sample code if you want. I can show you how easy it is. In fact, I wrote a script called "formproc" for my server where I can send the contents of any form (with a couple of special added fields), and the one script can do any or all of: -Send it to me in an email -Forward it to my alphanumeric pager -Print out debugging information on the sender and the information sent -Redirect to another page, possibly generated on the fly -Write the form field values out to a text file > Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of > us here are hungry for this kind of info. You can go to http://www.perl.org or http://www.perl.com (two different sites) for information on perl, and http://www.cpan.org for more perl info. Or just ask me if you have any questions. Valen knows I've gotten enough info from you guys. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer david@kramer.ne.mediaone.net DK KD http://start.at/david.kramer DKK D DK KD It is harder to conceal ignorance than to acquire knowledge. DDDD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:24:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Les Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Les Cohn Subject: Magnify! Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi: Just an unsolicited compliment on Magnify. It is an invaluable and useful tool for this long-time HP200LX user with 51 year old eyes. In particular, in low-light situations, it's always there to help. Thanks for such a great program! Les ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:28:02 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904160230.TAA14568@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A Meshar wrote: >1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL= 4.1.9 >and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) >Books I see are usually for Perl 5. >2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences = and >relevance to Palmtop? Version 5 added some object-oriented stuff, and does better at variable scoping I believe. Get the latest version - it's free! >3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW >environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" = behind >the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be = activated >when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. > >4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? > >I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the >requesting user? Perl is a programming language which can do just about anything you want. CGI is the term for running a program when a user requests a URL. Most CGI is done with the Perl language, because what you're doing is taking some text input from the user (fill-in forms, etc), and generating text output (HTML text that is). But it's certainly possible to do CGI in C or anything else. Perl is exceptionally good at handling text, so it's popular for this. CGI gives the Perl program its input through STDIN, and the Perl program's STDOUT (the print statement) is sent back to the user (just like simple console programs do). All you have to do is make what comes out be legal HTML. >5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter = the >data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that = output >and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then = would be >displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the = form >and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process= the >stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, = readable? I believe it can, though I've never tried it. Lurk in the comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi newsgroup to learn more. --=20 Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:12:36 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Donglok Kim wrote: > Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > > What exactly do you miss on the HP that you had on the Psion? (Fishing > > for ideas to improve POST/LX). > > > Andreas > > 1. How about editing capability of the received e-mail What about (in POST/LX) pressing F6 labelled "Edit"? > I am not a POST/LX user, so not sure whether this already > available in it... Ah, I see. :-) > 2. The same capability for "sent mailbox". F6 again. > 3. I think POST/LX has "sorting" capability Yes, it has. > - Is it only for viewing or > does it really save the mails in that order? It does not physically sort (which would take longer than you would be willing to wait), but it is permanent, i.e. when you exit the program and start it again, the each folders sorting order is the same as when you left it the last time. > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-) Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway! But you might want to have a look at POST/LX. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:57:34 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas How about these? I believe it can already send to a list of addresses and can sort messages according to how its addressed. How about rudimentry list serv capabilities such as being able to check for a subscribe, unsubscribe then adding/removing the email address to a list. Checking and returning messages that don't come from the right email address. Then automatically being able to forward messages addressed to the list to the list of addresses. It'd be really cool to run a list serv from a 200LX with software written for the 200LX. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:41:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andreas, > > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-) > > Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway! that's what I call fast turnaround on customer's requests! :-) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:40:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: David Kramer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Kramer writes: > palmtop. Not sure of the differences between 4.0.16 and 4.19, because > I've never seen a 4.19 DOS version. If you have one, and it works on > the palmtop, I'd certainly be willing to research the differences if you > could get me a copy. Actually I am more interested in the comparison between V 4.x and V 5. If V5 is able to run on the palmtop and is available somewhere, I'd love to know what I am gaining/losing in going V5 vs. V4 (generic). You say more advanced and more of a business tool. What specifics can you point to? > You are referring to CGI programs (Common Gateway Interface). You tell > your web server that for certain types of files, instead of sending the > contents of the file to the web browser, they should be executed, being > fed certain data from the browser, and their output should be sent to > the web browser. You can do that in any language, really, it's just > that some are more suited for it than others. I have CGI scripts on my > server written in regular bourne shell, awk, compiled C, and perl. Ok, so that's the mechanism. I read about it pages and pages, and you made it clear in a few words! Thanks. > It's main strengths are: > - Incredibly easy and powerful string handling I noticed so far!!! Really strong stuff.. > - It's compiles at runtime, so you can just edit and run Can the .PLs be compiled and remain as .EXEs? Anything available on the Palmtop? I admit I have not researched all the parameters yet... > - Connectivity to most databases Hooray!!! > Website programming usually involves string manipulation and searching > submitted text for characters, so it's a natural for websites. On the > other hand, C is horrible at both. Of course C is faster, though. Ah, the Allure of C! Some constructs in Perl are reminiscent of C, but it ain't a duck. > There is an extremely large library of categorized libraries (called > packages in Perl) and routines at http://www.cpan.org (Comprehensive > Perl Archive Network) to perform any kind of math, manipulate strings, Thanks for the ref... > sites use lots of them. In fact, almost all perl-based web sites use > CGI.pm, which handles the passing in and out of values in CGI scripts, > and automatically generates a lot of the HTML for handling forms. Most > UNIX-based websites use perl, but not always exclusively. Yummy! looks like some of the work is becoming easier! :) > Absolutely. The last two companies I worked for used perl scripts to > run their entire web products, reading databases and processing input as > needed. There were almost no HTML files; everything was generated live > by the perl scripts. Ok, ok!!! > That's what Tiggers do best! Ask me offline for sample code if you > want. I can show you how easy it is. In fact, I wrote a script called > "formproc" for my server where I can send the contents of any form (with Woof!! That list is a handful of gems... My offline email is on the way!!! > You can go to http://www.perl.org Been there - rich!!! Excellent stuff... > or http://www.perl.com Been there - rich!!! Excellent materials and resources. > http://www.cpan.org for more perl Did not know this one... Thank you. This is terrific. Two responses and I feel so much easier and less worried about all this! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:40:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Ness writes: > It's a pleasure to try to be of help to someone who so regularly > helps others. I knew one day my turn will come :) ... In truth, here, as in HPHAND, I have learned much much more from others than I ever hope to give to others, and I am not just being humble.. > While I hardly qualify as a `hotshot' I have done a fair amount of > PERL on NT/95 and Dos (incl HP200) environments. Anyone who knows 5 commands in Perl is a hotshot in my book! :) > Quick overview: > I see two dimensions of differences: > (1) Windows vs. DOS based > (2) Pre-Object Perl vs Object-Perl > > The first is particularly important v-a-v the `longfilename' question. > While all the Perls I have seen will run fine in NT or 95 DOS Windows, > you see an important behavioral difference in what you get when you > `readdir' for example. In the PERL on the NTResourceKit, for example, > readdir produces full (long) filenames. Most of the other Perls I have > tried produce (8.3) Filenames. This, of course, can cause some > difficulties for RE searches for files, etc. Ah, but if you confine yourself to naming all your resources where your Perl program works to 8x3 than you should be just fine, I assume. > The second dimension, Pre/Post Object, represents the step from the > V4 Perls into the V5 Perls. V4 Perls did not have `objects' or > pointer operations like `->'. I recall there are some other much > more subtle differences, but they have never seemed to bother my code > much (perhaps I was just lucky). I'm sure someone can point you to a > list of specifics, but I doubt if they would influence choice of > which to use much. V5 also introduced `packages' and much more > sophisticated `module' management. Ok, I suppose studying Perl 5 book while using Perl 4 would do much to hone those differences and their impact. > I believe that all V4 Perls are `short filename', although I am not > positive of this. It is fair to say, I think, that some V4 Perls tend to > be quite a bit samller than the V5s, so that all of the implementations > that run on the 200Lx, for example, are V4. Any Perl 5 run on the Palmtop? > I'd guess that you're pretty much restricted to a V4 implementation for > use on the 200Lx. I don't know enough about specific version differences Ah, I see the answer here... Almost... > are some things, but I haven't run into them). The V5 versions are > also in the 600K range. But none run on the 200LX? Or? > There are several Perl-CGI `packages' as well as some `Active Perl' > support that is quite relevant to running rather sophisticated > Web sites. There is also some discussion about how `dangerous' this > all is from a security standpoint. Why security problems? I read a tiny bit in the CGI literature about holes opened up by casual, careless, and dumb coding practices. Aside from that (of which I am perfectly capable, I assure you ) is there something inherent in Perl/CGI stuff? It seems one would have to hack his/her way into an execute-only directory to fathom out what a Perl program is doing, really... Of course this has been done before, but I can do little about it and have to rely on some explosive payloads I'll be preparing for hackers ... And the security of my ISP, and so on... (Hey, we could not even prevent someone from assuming my identity...) > > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the > > requesting user? > > I'd say `sure', although I haven't done much of this myself. It strikes > me as a `natural' for PERL though. Excellent. > I hope this at least starts to help. I look forward to further answers > as well. It is excellent so far! Thank you kindly. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 00:41:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Curtis Cameron Writes: > Version 5 added some object-oriented stuff, and does better at > variable scoping I believe. Get the latest version - it's free! Free is good, but will she run on the Palmtop? > Perl is a programming language which can do just about anything you > want. CGI is the term for running a program when a user requests a ... > do). All you have to do is make what comes out be legal HTML. Thanks. I understand the relationship now better. And so Perl's ability to output good HTML is wholly depepndent on the programmer! GIGO principle in action... Nothing new here... I learned it the hard way in 1966 writing COBOL and Assembler code for "mainframes" (IBM 360/20 - with 32K main memory - yes, K, not M or G, K! :) I have in my pocket a machine that is about 500 times stronger, and smaller :) ...) > I believe it can, though I've never tried it. Lurk in the > comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi newsgroup to learn more. Thanks for the reference!!! Boy, you ask a question, next thing you know you have all these resources to look up, lurk, learn!!! Good going, y'all! Thank you. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:59:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on Ebay. His eyes lit up and he said SURE! I'll bet he gave the guy $40 or $50 for it when he bought it, and thought I was a nut case when I came in offering $175. It's a 2meg 200LX, and it came with an EXP modem card with 2 mg storage, a dictionary card, a game card, and a whole bunch of various manuals. I think I got a pretty decent deal. Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead! : ) Steve -----Original Message----- From: David Lawrence ÝSMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ¨ Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:46 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ If only there was a way to find out about all the unused, unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used in draws just pining for a loving owner... David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:51:30 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: TECH: PAL library and single choice list Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found a solution: use PDE (PAL Dialog Editor) to create a dialog box with just a ListBox, and use the dialog handling functions. Works great. Regards, Paulo Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > Paulo Custodio wrote: > > I'm trying to use the PAL library to present a list of strings to the > > user and ask him to select one of them. There is a function in PAL > > called PickList, but it allows the user to make multiple choices. > > > > Does anybody know if there is a similar function for picking a single > > choice from a list? > > You might want to try the menu functions. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:43:08 +0100 Reply-To: mike@ampersoft.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Little Organization: Amprsoft Subject: Re: LXMAP menu layer Comments: cc: Roger Whitmarsh In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 16 Apr 99, at 12:12, Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Stefan wrote: > > >> The free power menu program is only 3KB in size. > >> Download from: > >> http://bin.alkaid.ml.org/alkaid/dos/power-10.zip > > > I've tried a number of times to get to this URL but > always get Error 404 '...Host not responding'. Is it > correct? > > TIA Roger Whitmarsh > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Try this... http://alkaid.knotwork.com/freeware/dos/ All the ml.org stuff went down a few weeks (months?) ago. Mike -- Mike Little email: mike@ampersoft.co.uk work: MLittle@geoworks.co.uk web: http://www.amprsoft.demon.co.uk/ PGP public key at http://www.amprsoft.demon.co.uk/mikel.htm ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:11:30 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ YES. You got a fairly good deal, you got a lot, but remember those places will only pay you at the most 50 cents on the dollar when they buy something. What they like to pay is 25 cents. So if you see something selling for 500 they probably paid about 125 for it. I'd be willing to bet the guy only paid 25 and was asking 100. You gotta bargin. It will only save you money. Steve Dowell writes: > I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and > offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on > Ebay. His eyes lit up and he said SURE! I'll bet he gave the guy $40 or > $50 for it when he bought it, and thought I was a nut case when I came > in offering $175. > It's a 2meg 200LX, and it came with an EXP modem card with 2 mg storage, > a dictionary card, a game card, and a whole bunch of various manuals. I > think I got a pretty decent deal. > Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead! : ) > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lawrence ÝSMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ¨ > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:46 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ > > > If only there was a way to find out about all the unused, > unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy > who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for > $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used > in draws just pining for a loving owner... > > > David Lawrence > katana@clear.net.nz > > Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:13:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Was this meant for POST/LX? John Musielewicz wrote: > How about these? > > I believe it can already send to a list of addresses > and can sort messages according to how its addressed. Yes. > How about rudimentry list serv capabilities POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*. A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:31:01 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: LXMAP menu layer Comments: To: lodger@nz1.ibm.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The original site for the power menu program seems to be removed, but there are many other links (found by archie), where to find it, like ftp://ftp.tpnet.pl/pub/msdos/ftp.simtel.net/menu/power-10.zip To achive good B&W maps from color maps, I recommend: -start with a designed (not scanned!) color map. -use a paint program and edit the color palette of the picture: Convert bright colors to white, dark colors to black. -do that incremental, check always, if the map still has all information on it, you want to keep. -save the result as a B&W PCX file using something like 'nearest color' reduction. Don't use 'dither', because it will destroy your work and result in a much larger PCX file I made good experiences using this method. Look at the german rail map for example. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:18:54 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Andreas Garzotto writes: > Was this meant for POST/LX? Sure. > > > How about rudimentry list serv capabilities > > POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*. I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine. > > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). Umm, I wonder how useful, but the only spare machine I have is a 200LX and it would probably be well suited for something like that. It definately wouldn't take up much room. I could transfer data real easy using the IR so storage wouldn't be a problem. One nice thing about using POST though is a dialup connection wouldn't be a problem--just use Appointment to periodically start it. I donno if it would be worth the work. You might end up with everybody with a spare 200LX starting their own lists. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:21:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop computers, to trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC Companions. Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ Buy the Jornada 820 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 Buy the Jornada 680 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 Buy the Jornada 420 @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery (F1287A) *What's a REX-3? It's the world's smallest connected organizer that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily download all your organizer data. Additional features like calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect compliment to your new Jornada 820 or 680. This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, 1999. Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid only in the USA. More Information can be found at http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:29:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mack Baggette wrote: > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > Trade... UP? UP? Try Trade DOWN. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 06:21:24 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hart@CATHOLIC.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Hart Subject: My HP LX 200 latch has broken My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new one and is it easy to replace? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:34:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > > > > Trade... UP? UP? Try Trade DOWN. Crazy huh? Don't they think people know the difference, but of course some folks will fall for it. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:59:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Comments: To: Mack Baggette In-Reply-To: <008801be880c$18c98e40$0400a8c0@times2tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not me - thanks. I already have a HP 620LX that I can't figure what to do with - it doesn't seem to have any practical use. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Mack Baggette > Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 9:22 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer > > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:05:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Musielewicz wrote: > > POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*. > > I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine. An email server and an email client is something very different, like a library and a customer visiting the library is not the same and does very different stuff. The only common between a mail server and an email client (POST/LX) would be the interface to WWW/LX, and that's maybe 1-2% of the code. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:54:43 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer > This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, > 1999. Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid > only in the USA. More Information can be found at > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100 dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than that!! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:05:40 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Revised edition > Hello all, below is part of an email I wish I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP 400LX's > > For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to > qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop > > computers, to > trade-up to the dynamic NEW DOS HP 400LX line of PC > Companions. > > Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the > special 400LX Offers available from MobilePlanet > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ > > Buy the 400LX Pentium 300 MHz @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 > Buy the 400LX 486 100 MHz @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 > Buy the 400LX 386 50 MHz @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery > (F1287A) > > *What's a REX-3? It's the world's smallest connected organizer > that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily > download all your organizer data. Additional features like > calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability > to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect > compliment to your new 400LX. > > This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, > 1999. Limit one HP 400LX product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid > only in the USA. More Information can be found at > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ > Someone should send it back to them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:59:26 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Mack Baggette writes: > > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from > MobilePlanet:-( > > > > > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > > > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > > > > > > > Trade... UP? UP? Try Trade DOWN. > > Crazy huh? Don't they think people know the difference, but of course some > folks will fall for it. > > Cheers, > Mack > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:06:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > Mack Baggette wrote: > > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > > > > Trade... UP? UP? Try Trade DOWN. I also fail to understand: present us with proof of purchase for your Maseratti and we offer you a cheaper price for one of our broken 2CVs. Why would anybody want to do that? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:48:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: "Special" Offer from HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought y'all might be "interested" :{)# in this offer from HP and Mobile Planet, snipped from Mobile Planet's newsletter. AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop computers, to trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC Companions. Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ Buy the Jornada 820 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 Buy the Jornada 680 @$799.95 and Get a *REX-3 Buy the Jornada 420 @$449.95 and Get an extra standard Battery (F1287A) *What's a REX-3? It's the world's smallest connected organizer that uses your PC Companion's PC Card slot to quickly and easily download all your organizer data. Additional features like calendar, to-do-lists, memos, alarm clock, with the ability to pop it in your pocket and go, makes the REX-3 the perfect compliment to your new Jornada 820 or 680. This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, 1999. Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid only in the USA. More Information can be found at http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ Notice - you don't have to give up the DOS palmtop (probably realized they wouldn't get many takers) to collect. Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:51:41 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SC problems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, a few days ago I posted that I have problems with a few TSRs in combination with SC. The problem with DOSED is now solved. I just have to load it _after_ SC, then it works. But now I got the next prblem: I use CICFAKE for recognition of Modem cards. I have one WA set up for email with WWW/LX, so I need CICFAKE only in this session. But if I put it in the corresponding batch file and load it only in this session, I cannot switch to another any more. If I try to switch from this session to another, the palmtop hangs up. So I had to put CICFAKE back in the autoexec.bat again and load it before SC. Now everything works. Do anyone have an idea how I could solve this problem? AND: Did anyone recognize this problem with 123: I just switched to a WA where I loaded 123 some time before. When I wanted to make the menu visible (pressing the menu key), the menu wasn't readable. It appeared, but looked like garbage. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:52:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Motorola Cellect1+ and HP200LX Comments: To: Vincent Rikkink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I would like to use my HP palmtop 200lx with the > Motorola Cellect1+ card which I recently bought. I tried to run the > driver program celectdr.exe but it returns every time with: > > Not using Card Services. > Modem initialisation failed > Please re-run with /D option to diagnose > > With the /D option it does not recognize that a modem card has been > inserted. > > When I however run my communication program (Goin'Postal), it recognizes > > the Motorola Celect 1+ card (with standard initialisation) and then.... > my phone switches off which is a .... Motorola CD920. I don't know that card but you probably should not try to use any of the software that comes with it for initialization. Just use the cic100 command as found in a REM statement on the d: drive in the same autoexec.bat file. Or use the lxcic command from the supersite. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:56:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Fwd: LX -> NT backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date- Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:33:49 -0400 From: peter.wuensche@avl.com (Peter Wuensche) Subscriber Comments: HELP! I own a 200 LX for some years now, and always backed up my data using that connectivity kit to a 486 desktop. Now with my Windows NT, this doesn't seem to work anymore, would you know how to? I am getting nervous about loosing data without backup. Your reply is much appreciated :-) Peter --- end of forwarded message --- *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:19:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ Comments: To: Steve Dowell In-Reply-To: <199904160749.AAA59110@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote: > I found my LX at a local 2nd hand computer store. I waltzed in and > offered him $175 for it because that's what I'd seen them going for on Ýsnip¨ > Maybe I should have offered him $75 instead! : ) Believe it or not... I bought my 1st backup 200LX (a 2MB unit) for $50. It'd been sitting in a fellow ham's "junk" drawer for two years, he'd never used it. Then, I won Dave Sargeant's contest last year, and got it 2x/8mb'd... The unit's now a part of my "test and experiment" gear at home. I use it all the time for datacomm/network stuff (since there's no important data on it). If the batts die on me, or if I accidentally hose the memory, no great loss, as I stick my flash card in and re-copy the speed driver over. Gotta love that 200LX... gotta love it even more when you get it for a deal. Of course, there's my other backup unit (a stock 4MB machine) that I paid $650 for in Jan 1997... ouch. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:27:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Missing my 95LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob1 wrote; >> The reason I can see the text better at 40 col x 16 rows (240 x 128 dots) on my HP95LX. The HP200LX is 80 col x 25 rows (640 x 200 dots) little to small for me.>> Athough there are some great improvements in the 200lx, which I now own, there are things which I preferred on my 95LX: 1. In phone you just pressed 'only' and typed in 'John', for example, and instantly all the records with John would appear. On the 200lx I first have to define a subset and then it still takes a while before they appear. 2. In solver the equation editor didn't add a space when the line wrapped, now in the 200lx it does it rather annoyingly. 3. Generally, all searches were much quicker in the 95lx. Anyone want to add to the list? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:27:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , maartens@IAFRICA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rian Maartens Subject: Re: Battery drain with Creative Labs 14.4 Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul wrote; >>Your experience sounds out of the ordinary. Do you have short battery = life without the modem? >> With my previous 4bm 200 Lx I got about 1 month on Duracell Alkaline 1500mp Batteries. Since I got my 2x 32Mb 200 Lx at the end January I get between 1 and 2 weeks. The reason is I'm using it a lot more, I was told the 2x and 32Mb combination will reduce battery life by 25% and the few attempts to connect via modem basically required a new set of batteries to go in. The bottomline is that I cannot answer conclusively whether my palmtop has an above average battery drain beside the modem issue. The fact that you got 1 hour or so with the modem running gives me hope. Do also have a 2x 32Mb model? BTW, I received two identical emails from you, one direct and one via the HPLX list. I realise its when someone hits reply and doesn't notice the email will be sent to two different addresses. I've added '#nospam' to my address because I've seen others do it and I suppose the reason is not to get double email. Let me know if I'm on the right track here. Rian Maartens ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:40:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Mack Baggette wrote: > > > Hello all, below is part of an email I just received from MobilePlanet:-( > > > > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > > > > Trade... UP? UP? Try Trade DOWN. > Well, as I wrote on CIS - HP does finally admit it takes TWO devices to replace the "antiquated" HP200 line!!! (G) But if you want a pen device and the syncing folks want ...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:39:58 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Andreas, > > > > Hope I qualify for a WWW/LX with these ideas :-) > > > > Well, nothing new I had to implement. ;-) Thanks anyway! > > that's what I call fast turnaround on customer's requests! :-) > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Yes...I love the way I can communicate with the person (persons) that have actually made the program... Avi..I have been "talking" to Andreas about a phonebookmanagmentprogram for Nokia 8810/7110 and the Hp 200 lx.. Is this something that are interesting for the Us market...I do not know if gsm/digital/irda is that widespread "over" there..I know I have been "nagging" about the Nokia 7110 for a while now, but I do not know if there is any interest for this where you are. Or if it is a Europeen "thing".. Regarding Internet/mail I have seen your Richoet "solution", but nothing like that here in Norway, so for the "road" its cellular that is the way to go.. Andreas said that communication between the hp and the Nokia regarding phonenumbers and sms can be done with not that much work via Robot/lx. -- Med vennlig hilsen/Regards Martin Bergvill Blomvikveien 10 8516 Narvik Norway mailto:martin@mobilpost.com Phone:+4776941462 Mobil:+4790199462 -- .."This --> { } is probably the best button to press." (From The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:41:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer In-Reply-To: <199903160854.PNR04389@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > > This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, > > 1999. Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid > > only in the USA. More Information can be found at > > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ You don't suppose the date had anything to do with it?... Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:38:22 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: hplx In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990415181937.00bae100@comports.com>; from hplx on Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 06:19:37PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-15-22:19:37 hplx: > Does this Perl compile or remain interpreted? All perls, since day one, every one of them ever, compile. They compile to an intermediate data structure which is then interpreted, very fast. They are "load-and-go" compilers. Various hacks have been worked on over the years; old ones of this vintage (Perl 4 was obsoleted some 7-8 years ago, it just remains the last one that anyone has ported to 16-bit DOS) knew how to "undump" themselves, producing essentially a core dump that a "reformatter" could turn into an executable; this was typically no faster than the original program. That trick was always terribly system-dependant, and I never heard of anyone trying it anywhere except Unix. Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway. > What is the distribution rights of code I generate with it? You write code in perl, it's your code, you can whatever you want with it; sell it, give it away, whatever. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:42:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: SC problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Daniel, <> Great. I don't think you lose much memory with CICFAKE, unless someone has ideas, I wouldn't worry about it. <> Is 123 in a 2nd system manager session? My guess is that has to do with an old bug, fixed for session one. If I am right, for the work-around try pressing F1 help and ESC and move the cursor. Or go to MORE and then back. For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our (Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the authors of SC went out of business and no one could buy the product. Especially with our memory upgrades, I thought SC was a great product. I did a search on the web for the SC authors and contacted him and her. To make a long story short, the authors made some bug fixes, and we purchased the rights to distribute the product, but they don't support it. Thanks to HPHAND and this group there is excellent support available from experienced users. I appreciate everyone's support on the product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are supported. I believe you purchased it from Tom Rundel who buys SC from us. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:10:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904160230.TAA14568@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 07:30:54PM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-16-02:30:54 A Meshar: > 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9 > and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) 4.1.9 was never a perl version proper, AFAIK; I suspect that was someone's version number on a port they did, separate from the actual perl version. And it was probably a 4.0.36 port to DOS, if I recall correctly. Perl went through a series of major versions in the '80s, from 1.0 through 4.0, and after each major version lwall shipped patches with bugfixes or minor feature enhancements; there were 36 patches for perl 4.0. > Books I see are usually for Perl 5. Yup, perl 5 has been current since the early '90s, and includes many, many valuable additions that make it a nicer language. Problem is, nobody has ever successfully ported it to 16-bit DOS as far as I know. > 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and > relevance to Palmtop? Perl5 has many many new features, the most dramatic and important would be references. A reference is basically a typed pointer --- a pointer that knows the type of thing it's pointing at. References are the way to properly support complex data structures in perl. Plus scads of other cool stuff. I'm pretty sure lexically scoped variables ("my()") were also introduced with perl 5. Likewise the object-oriented features (since they are based on references). So the differences are big and important. For the most part, any perl4 code you find or write will run fine under perl5, although it may generate some warnings; very little perl5 code will run unchanged under perl4, the new features are just too valuable and important. > 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW > environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind > the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated > when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. Yup, that's a CGI script for you. With typical web servers, you can put an executable perl script in the .../cgi-bin/ subdirectory of the web server heirarchy, or some other way notify the server that it's supposed to be treated as a CGI, and write the perl (using perl5!) like #!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; use CGI; use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser); my($q) = new CGI; $q->use_named_parameters(1); print $q->header, $q->start_html(title=>'Hello, World!'), $q->start_form, "And your name is:", $q->textfield(name=>'who',default=>'nobody',size=>20), $q->submit, $q->end_form, $q->hr, "Hello there, ", $q->param('who'), "!", $q->end_html; (from memory, untested). > 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? We're still trying to figure that out. So far, the answer has been "anything, very very easily and well". > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the > requesting user? Yup. And it can do database work like a champ. And it can do numerical modelling really smoothly. And it can do graphic programming well. And it can do crypto. And it can do statistical analysis. As the ads say, "If you don't know where you want to go, we'll make sure you get taken!". Wait, no, those are different ads. Never mind. > 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the > data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output > and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be > displayed to the original requester? Yup. In some sense that's the complementary operation to the above example; while the above is a CGI script, which publishes WWW content, you are now asking about a robot script, which is a customer of WWW content. In short, a web agent. The perl module for that is LWP, short for LibWebPerl. It's built atop libnet, which provides the low-level protocol implementations for various TCP/IP protocols in the client side. > I want to keep the access to the form and the results invisible from the > original requester, i.e. just process the stuff, and repackage it in ways > that are more er... palatable?, readable? Yup, that's another job that is easy to do well in perl. > Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of > us here are hungry for this kind of info. Note: none of this is at all related to this list, since all this wonderful stuff is perl5 only, and so not available for the LX. But on your desktop workstation you can run the latest perl, and teach it new tricks using the Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN), available from many places including , , and . -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:23:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: LOTUS 123 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename). Any idea how to accomplish this ? Thank you Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:31:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, that's one way Thaddeus is making a good buck: buying people's old LX'es. (No blame here, more like envy! I wish people would sell me *their* old stuff at the same price). Second hand stores are a good place to look, and maybe even pawn shops if you can find a place where the guy doesn't know how much the machines are worth... Philippe :) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Lawrence ÝSMTP:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ¨ > > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 4:46 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: Re: Dumpster diving...Ýfluff¨ > > > > > > If only there was a way to find out about all the unused, > > unwanted stuff out there, I heard a depressing story about a guy > > who bought a 200LX from somebody who didn't want it, for > > $100.00!!! There are probably machines out there lying dis-used > > in draws just pining for a loving owner... > > > > > > David Lawrence > > katana@clear.net.nz > > > > Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:36:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken Comments: To: hart@CATHOLIC.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good luck. Hp didn't have it when I called a couple years ago. Don't think it's even *listed* as a separate part. Try getting a broken 95LX or 100LX on the net and use that latch. In my case, I just left the LX like that and just started being a bit more careful about throwing the machine it around. In a bind, a lobster elastic will keep it closed pretty well. Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Hart To: Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 11:21 PM Subject: My HP LX 200 latch has broken > My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new one and is it easy to replace? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:39:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: Fwd: LX -> NT backup Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone replied to me a little while ago when I asked the same question. They mentioned that a program called Transfile can do basic file transfer... Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Kind To: Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:56 AM Subject: Fwd: LX -> NT backup --- begin of forwarded message --- Date- Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:33:49 -0400 From: peter.wuensche@avl.com (Peter Wuensche) Subscriber Comments: HELP! I own a 200 LX for some years now, and always backed up my data using that connectivity kit to a 486 desktop. Now with my Windows NT, this doesn't seem to work anymore, would you know how to? I am getting nervous about loosing data without backup. Your reply is much appreciated :-) Peter --- end of forwarded message --- *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:43:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: LOTUS 123 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Off the cuff here (didn't try it as part of a full macro yet)... '/fxv{ESC}test.dat~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~ This line was created using the Learn feature. The {LEFT x}{DOWN x} stuff selected the range to save. If you want your macro to change the name of the file, put the name on another line like this: '/txv{ESC} test.dat ~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~ Then have another part of your macro modify that cell. Be sure to have the macro {CALC} the sheet before it reads the filename cell. If you want to specify the range as part of the macro, use the same technique and separate out the stuff that defines the range and have your macro "create" the range on the fly. Good luck! Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Winfried Zettelmeyer ÝSMTP:wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES¨ > > Hi all, > I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that > uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename). > Any idea how to accomplish this ? > Thank you > Winfried > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Replacing the latch is actually easy... getting one is not. Considering that your latch is completely missing, my suggestion as how to repair and replace the latch won't be of any use to you, but here goes anyway. To remove a latch (broken or not): The display case is two parts (plus other parts, not involved in this deal here). At the point where the latch "lives" you must pry the two case halves apart, just enough to allow the latch to be removed. There is no need to remove the frame from around the display as there are no screws in the area of the latch. Enough space can be made this way to remove the latch. Inside the case there will be one or two little "golf clubs" of plastic. These are the "springs" that once made the latch function. Collect these two parts. Carefully examine the two parts (one if you are lucky and your latch still has a spring attached) and observe the orientation of attachment for re-attaching the plastic parts. Difficult part... build a jig to hold the parts in the correct orientation. I used a small piece of wood and my motor-tool to do this. Once you have this done go get some solvent-based glue for model building. NO STUPID SUPER GLUE!!! and the glue must be a liquid, not a "paste", it must run-like-water. Put your latch and it's parts into your jig and using a very fine paint brush, place the tiniest amount of glue possible onto the cracked parts. Wait at least two days before trying to remove the parts from the jig. This is a spring you are fixing here, give it all the chances you can to work. To replace the repaired latch, use the case opening trick (above) and carefully work the latch back into place. Don't break anything. Good luch! Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Hart > > My latch on my HP 200LX has broken. I pulled out my 200 from my briefcase > and the latch was completely missing. Any ideas on where I could get a new > one and is it easy to replace? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:11:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I am almost embarrassed to mention this, but you can sent it to us. We have a blanket repair fee for $125. Our problem is we still can't directly buy parts at will (we have been able to buy some parts from HP twice -- but don't know if that will reoccur.) Therefore, we may have to scrounge a latch from a broken unit (or from our HP parts) in the same way we get a screen. Since we don't know if we can get more, we have to be very conservative. In the future we hope to be able to buy parts from HP. At that time we may change our policy and let people purchase them directly, we'll have to see, if we can make it work for all concerned. Hal Goldstein President Thaddeus Computing Publisher HANDHELD PC MAGAZINE FOR USERS OF WINDOWS CE, THE HP PALMTOP PAPER 110 North Court St. Fairfield, IA 52556 800 373 6114 or 515 472 6330 fax: 515 472 1879 hal@thaddeus.com or CompuServe: 75300,2443 http:\\www.thaddeus.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:50:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas In-Reply-To: <199904161113.NAA373014@mail.iprolink.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). Isn't that what you said about Ethernet support in WWW/LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:00:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas) In-Reply-To: from David Sargeant at "Apr 16, 99 11:50:29 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). > For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to being real... Stay tuned.. :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:10:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas) In-Reply-To: <19990416190008.4DCBF9611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote: > For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to > being real... Stay tuned.. :-) I'd better get the digital photos of the bottom of my palmtop up, then! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:40:29 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Can the .PLs be compiled and remain as .EXEs? Anything available on the >Palmtop? I admit I have not researched all the parameters yet... You can start it as a bat file. Don't name it .pl . Think of it like QBasic. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:36:25 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Any Perl 5 run on the Palmtop? Searched a lot. Didn't find it anywhere. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:29:54 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have a look to http://www.cgi-resources.com/ . There are some tutorials and documentation stuff too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:08:20 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer > You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know > what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100 > dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than > that!! > > John You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be a source for cheap replacement 200lx's. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:15:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Comments: To: "tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us" re: >You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet >and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be >a source for cheap replacement 200lx's. They're going to corner the market on replacement latches ;-) !! --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:25:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer Comments: To: "tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't see anywhere in the offer where they're asking for the old palmtops, just for the serial numbers. I don't think it's actually a "trade-in" offer.... (Although, I could be wrong...) Take a look at the "terms and conditions" (that just happen to be on the HP website...) Looks like the offer is run by HP, not MobilePlanet... http://www.hp.com/jornada/promotions/dos/rules.html ... John Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨ Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 4:08 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: MobilePlanet Trade Up Offer > You notice there's no place to send a message to let'em know > what a person thinks of the "offer". What is it--about a 100 > dollars is what they're giving for the DOS LX? Its worth more than > that!! > > John You are all missing the point. Someone should contact mobileplanet and find out where all those traded in hp's are going. This might be a source for cheap replacement 200lx's. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:31:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Other PDA comparisons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Has anybody else tried the ESC-ON display diagnostic of other PDAs? There once was this thing from Psion My big mistake - to buy one It cost lots of cash And looked really flash But just couldn't get the work done There once was this thing from 3Com In style wars it won with aplomb I tried a Palm Pro But it had to go No keyboard and not enough ROM (oops I meant RAM - bloody graffiti) There once was this thing called CE That lots of new palmto# s 2 ,0}} DIAGS caused an invalid page fault in module LIMERICK32.DLL at 0137:7f7af33a. Registers: EAX=016f04f8 CS=0137 EIP=7f7af33a EFLGS=00010202 EBX=815b273c SS=013f ESP=0065fae4 EBP=0065fcc0 ECX=00000010 DS=013f ESI=bff7ee11 FS=2a6f EDX=815b0354 ES=013f EDI=00000000 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 08 85 c9 8d 51 ff 89 10 74 1a e8 2f 97 ff ff Stack dump: 0065fcc0 7f7a0000 815b0388 815b273c 00432ec8 bff7b9ce 7f7a0000 00000000 00000000 7f7a0000 815b0388 815b273c 00000000 0000034b 815b273c c64f4d18 This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down. If the problem persists, contact the program vendor. Warning! Main batteries low. Replace main batteries to avoi Isn't that supposed to rhyme or something? -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:16:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bennett Todd writes: > Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't > apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or > another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway. Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:24:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > Bennett Todd writes: > > > Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't > > apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or > > another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway. > > Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this > thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE? > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be `Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:39:35 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mattias Bjorklund Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mattias Bjorklund Subject: Problem launching application Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everybody, I've added an icon on the desktop on my 200LX to a program (DOS), but when I try to launch it by pressing enter on the icon it fails. A screen that flash by says "Failed to allocate image buffer". If I execute from the 'filer' it works well. The program I try to launch is a small game called Goldmine (looks a bit like Boulderdash, just loved this game on my Atari 130 back in the 80's). Maybe someone has tried this game an have a solution to my problem. Any thoughts? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:55:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Andreas Garzotto writes: > John Musielewicz wrote: > > > POST/LX is a mail *client*, not a *server*. > > > > I realize that it is but it could be used as the engine. > > An email server and an email client is something very different, like a > library and a customer visiting the library is not the same and does > very different stuff. The only common between a mail server and an > email client (POST/LX) would be the interface to WWW/LX, and that's > maybe 1-2% of the code. They are diffwerant in the ways they handle mail. I am not thinking along the lines of Mercury mail which is a full fledged mail server but along the lines of Pegasus which is a mail client with rudimentry list serv capabilites. I was thinking of minor modifications to POST mainly in the sorting and forwarding and using a front end so a person that didn't want to use something like this wouldn't be afflicted with the baggage. No doubt it would take some fancy programming. Like I said donno if it would be worth the work and worthwhile since a person can spend a couple hundred and have a full fledged mail server. But in some situations such a program would be very useful. The autoforwarding part, and the ability to add names to a list would be very useful. Of course one of the advantage to Post is the small size so naturally a person wouldn't want to add much baggage but a pocket sized list server would be quite handy. A person could stick it on the corner of the desk. It wouldn't take any room at all which is the main advantage. And it would be a way to put a spare 200LX to use. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:06:42 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: HP and the handheld market I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the breakdown to individual units would be? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:57:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , OlasH@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Olas Hubbs Subject: Problem with HV and WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am having a problem with using HV to read htm files using HV part of WWW/LX Plus. I have WWW/LX on an EXP modem/flash card (I refer to this as my F Card) and it functions properly. I have the same program copied over to another flashcard that I normally keep in the slot (I refer to this as my A Card). I can also use my external modem with my A Card. My problem is that I can not use use HV as an offline reader on my A Card with the 200LX booted up with the A Card in it. I can use POST and WWW on my A Card. When I try to go to HV via Filer highliting HV.exe, &.., menu,a,t,F10, or from appl mgr, the results are the same. I only get the bar at the top "starting up". I must do a soft reboot to get out of DOS. My hv.cfg file is the same as my F Card except for my drive designation. I have repeatly checked this. I copied my entire WWW/LX dirctory and files from F to A to setup my A Card, with changes in my *.cfg files. If I booted up the 200LX with the F Card in it and swap cards without rebooting I do NOT have this problem. I have my F Card autexec.bat and config.sys on C drive and my A Card autoexec.bat and config.sys on the A Card. Renaming F Card auto exec.bat and config.sys does not help. What am I not aware of ??. I triple checked my HV.CFG file for the A Card and all references are for the A Drive, non refer to the F Drive. My A Card autoexec.bat and config.sys follow. Autoexec file: @echo off Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive. prompt $p$g path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;a:\HV2;a:\bin\pkware;a:\PE;c:\util;a:\bin;a:\= wp51; (this is the above line continued) a:\powerc;a:\pctrace c: Rem assign e:=3Da: Rem Serctl /w Mode com1:9600,n,8,1,p Mode LPT1:=3Dcom1: set WP=3D/mono set PCO.cfg=3DA:\BIN\outline set pkzip.cfg=3Da:\bin\pkware c:\util\abclx\abctsr.com c:\util\quick\quick.com /3 /l6 /m3 /r2000 a:\pe\nofiddle.com Rem d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1 100 Config file: buffers=3D30 files=3D50 lastdrive=3DJ shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos This is my f Card Files Autoexec: @echo off Rem Set prompt, path, and select C drive. prompt $p$g path c:\;d:\;d:\bin;d:\dos;f:\HV2;f:\BIN;f:\bin\pkware;f:\PE;c:\util c: Rem assign e:=3Da: set pkzip.cfg=3Df:\bin\pkware c:\util\abclx\abctsr.com c:\util\quick\quick.com /3 /l6 /m3 /r2000 f:\PE\nofiddle.com d:\bin\cic100.exe /gen 1 100 Config flie: buffers=3D30 files=3D50 lastdrive=3DJ shell=3Dd:\dos\command.com /p d:\dos device=3Da:\lxmdrv.sys Thanks, Olas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:59:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 7:58 PM Subject: HP and the handheld market >I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld >market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does >anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the >breakdown to individual units would be? John, From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE manufacturers out there. With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a bit high. Your mileage may vary. :) Dan driden@stlnet.com > >John > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:15:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you talking units or $value? Dan Ridenhour wrote: > > >From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its > PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE > manufacturers out there. With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a > bit > high. Your mileage may vary. :) > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:09:49 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas) Steven Lawson writes: > > On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > > > > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). > > > > For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to > being real... Stay tuned.. :-) What is the "Velcroed Web Server"? I remember a few months agao you said you were working on something for the 200LX. Is this it? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:04:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Problem launching application Try putting a | at end of the path. Mattias Bjorklund writes: > Hello everybody, > I've added an icon on the desktop on my 200LX to a program (DOS), but when > I try to launch it by pressing enter on the icon it fails. A screen that > flash by says "Failed to allocate image buffer". > > If I execute from the 'filer' it works well. > > The program I try to launch is a small game called Goldmine (looks a bit > like Boulderdash, just loved this game on my Atari 130 back in the 80's). > Maybe someone has tried this game an have a solution to my problem. > > Any thoughts? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:02:32 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > > >I read somewhere that HP has about 18% of the handheld > >market. The DOS LX was lumped in with the CE units. Does > >anyone know if this is an actual figure and what the > >breakdown to individual units would be? > > > >From what ive heard 3Com has approximately 75% of the market with its > PalmOS systems, leaving the other 25% for Psion, HP, and all the WinCE > manufacturers out there. With this in mind I think 18% for HP itself is a > bit > high. Your mileage may vary. :) > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably up theri share quite a bit. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:59:16 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: WTD compact flash adapter. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need a vanilla compact flash to pcmcia adapter. Would some kind soul with an extra one be willing to send me one for a check for $8? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:47:41 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be > willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's > market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the > 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably > up theri share quite a bit. > > John Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop before too long. Pete Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:03:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: X-Finder X-Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:44:09 -0400 (EDT) Hello again fellow Findermaniacs- Just found out another very cool feature of the new Finder. Among the various x-file (sorry, couldn't resist) types, (.xfe .xfd .xfm etc) you can use .xfk to launch a built-in app or .exm that's registered in AppMgr or MoreEXM by naming the file using the hex code of the hotkey. For example Appt is b000 hex, so the file is named b000.xfk - The cool part is the file needs NO CONTENTS! You use a file of 0 bytes! The other 0 byte file option is .xfl You name this one with the file name (without extension) of an EXM For example you can launch lftree from lftree.xfl Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:14:43 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders writes: > > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be > > willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's > > market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the > > 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably > > up theri share quite a bit. > > > > John > > Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed > in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also > have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed > anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you > really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their > sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it > profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop > before too long. Umm, good question. HP has changed over to CE completely. But the only HP CE units availible in the handheld form are the Journada 420 and the 360LX (do they still make the 360?). These are the direct compeditor to the 200LX. In my narrow world view, what I see, since I don't have access to marketing figures, I see 200LX's being bought. People always look at the CE units and oh and awe, but usually they don't buy them for some reason, usually because of the size battery life and availibility of programs. For example, the last people I knew of that made a choice bought 200. They also bought a rex. Smart people and no influence from me! So while HP may be advertising the stuff out of their handhelds and its what the stores are buying it doesn't make me think its what people are buying. Do you think because the only computers which are advertised and sold in stores are pentium II's and III's that's what everybody buys when they go looking for a computer? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:28:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" In-Reply-To: <42A711C4FD2@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote: > Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed > in computer and electronic stores all over the country. My local OfficeMax, which is our only real brainless megastore in Casper, carries no HP palmtops at all. They have, if I recall correctly, just a single-width display advertising a Psion 5, a Casseopeia, and I believe a few non-CE Sharps. Basically, you won't find HP units in stores because the total palmtop market is still pretty small. It's not profitable to sell them any way but through mailorder or the Internet. > They also > have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed > anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you > really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their > sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it > profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop > before too long. In the sense that, from what I hear, 200LX sales have consistently outstripped all of HP's CE units in sales (and usefulness :), even in 1998. The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell. Only people that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway. A 200LX is an old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product. > Pete > > Pete > > Peter W. Borders Um.. Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc., Peace love sunshine Volkswagen Adapt. Enjoy. Survive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:12:54 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anand Rao Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anand Rao Subject: HPALARM - different sounds possible? In-Reply-To: <199904170303.XAA06590@moon.web2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful among the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and many thanks. In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that would otherwise drag on. I have one query and one suggestion - Query: Is it possible to change the default alarm sound? I tried renaming some other file as ALARM.SND in c:\_dat but it did not help. I would like to use this alarm as a morning wake up call and would like to start the day with a more soothing sound! Suggestion: Multiple alarms would help (like the Timex Datalink watch, for instance), preferably with their own sounds! brgds Anand Rao ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:29:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter W. Borders" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market MIME-Version: 666 hmm, now that i think about it i guess that the reason i feel compelled to write such arrogant and srcastic messages like this is because im trying to makeup for the tiny size of my cock, please forgive me and i will watch my sarcasm in the future. my girlfriend dumped me last week and said i am a rude arrogant bastard and i still feel bad so i took it out on you, I know im a piece of dog shit I'm very sorry please please please forgive me, i relly dont know what comes over me sometimes!!!!! I think the chicks will like me more if i show how domiant i am becuase i can make fun of other plamtop users even thow when they meet me in real life im a fat and ugly geek with bo that smells like a piece of hambuger cooking. Please forgive me, People have told me im a fuckhead before, but i only decided it was true when the voices told me. im sorry. Peter W. Borders wrote: > > > Hmm, 25%.. then the Jordan thingy post isn't surprizing. I'd be > > willing to bet the 200LX is still quite a big chunk in HP's > > market share. Probably closely followed or following machines like the > > 620LX. If they can swing a lot of the 200LX users over they'd probably > > up theri share quite a bit. > > > > John > > Lets see HP currently has 3 or 4 CE units being prominently displayed > in computer and electronic stores all over the country. They also > have 1 hp200lx that until recently wasn't even being displayed > anywhere on the web that I have ever seen. So given the above do you > really think that the 200lx is still a "quite big chunk" of their > sales? I certainly don't. They must still sell enough to make it > profitable to keep producing them but even that will probably stop > before too long. > > Pete > > Pete > > Peter W. Borders > > Network Support Technician > Tidewater Community College > tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Pete Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:27:15 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > Umm, good question. HP has changed over to CE completely. But the > only HP CE units availible in the handheld form are the Journada 420 > and the 360LX (do they still make the 360?). These are the direct > compeditor to the 200LX. In my narrow world view, what I see, since > I don't have access to marketing figures, I see 200LX's being bought. > People always look at the CE units and oh and awe, but usually > they don't buy them for some reason, usually because of the size > battery life and availibility of programs. For example, the last people > I knew of that made a choice bought 200. They also bought a rex. > Smart people and no influence from me! > So while HP may be advertising the stuff out of their handhelds and its > what the stores are buying it doesn't make me think its what people > are buying. Do you think because the only computers which are advertised > and sold in stores are pentium II's and III's that's what everybody buys > when they go looking for a computer? > > John They still have the 600 line don't they, at least I have seen them for sale. As far as what stores carry, if they don't carry things that people buy alot then they soon go out of business, that is a basic fact of business. So there must be some people out there buying CE machine from HP since there are stores carrying them and I have yet to see one of them be dropped from store shelves. Shelf space in a retail outlet is very har to come buy, companies fight with each other to get a spot on a big chain store shelf since that means more sales. So either some of the biggest electronic and computer chains in the country are being run by idiots or CE devices are selling well enough to maintain their shelf space. As far as pentium II and III yes that is pretty much what the majority of people buy RETAIL, in major chain outlets. That is not necessarily a good thing but it is true. go to any compusa and just watch the systems going out the door, somebody sure is buying them. I am not saying there is not a large market in cheaper systems, mostly mail order or fomr smaller outfits, just that there is a big market for these higher end systems as well. Regarding those people that you know that chose the hp200lx over CE, where did they get the information about the 200lx? you could probably poll 1000 people going into any large chain and few if any would have heard about the 200lx but many would have heard about CE machines. Also, there is always the fact that people tend to associate with others of like intelligence and interests so it is not unusual for someone that you know to use a 200lx, you like it don't you and you certainly wouldn't want to hang out with those CE cretins. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:31:11 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > My local OfficeMax, which is our only real brainless megastore in > Casper, carries no HP palmtops at all. They have, if I recall correctly, > just a single-width display advertising a Psion 5, a Casseopeia, and I > believe a few non-CE Sharps. Basically, you won't find HP units in stores > because the total palmtop market is still pretty small. It's not profitable > to sell them any way but through mailorder or the Internet. Did you say you live in podunk or what? :-) I have at least 5 various chain stores from compusa to circuit city. Most of the, including the 3 office max stores I visit once in a while, carry several different CE machines. I can't say who has the HP except that I remember seeing them in Compusa. Of course the only place that ever sold the 200lx was service merchandise and they just went out of business. > In the sense that, from what I hear, 200LX sales have consistently > outstripped all of HP's CE units in sales (and usefulness :), even in 1998. > The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell. Only people > that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the > general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway. A 200LX is an > old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells > in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product. > People are always saying things like that but I have never seen any sales figures from HP to justify that position. Do you have any ACTUAL numbers from HP about the great sales of the 200lx versis CE? Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 23:38:04 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > The 200LX survives because it doesn't need marketing to sell. Only people > that need it will ever buy one; they're a specialty DOS machine, and the > general public is helplessly stuck on point-and-grunt anyway. A 200LX is an > old dog for technology, but because of its specialty niche market it sells > in spite of the parent company's apparent lack of interest in the product. > People put more research into buying handhelds too, so it doesn't seem to matter how well advertised they are. I remember I searched for months looking at everything that was availible. Almost didn't buy the HP because it only had a type II slot and a 186 almost bought the 386 prolinear instead it had a type III and 386 but it was too big and used more AA cells. If the prolinear had been just a couple inches smaller I'd be cussing at them instead since they are no longer in business. Could've bought into CE too, but lousy battery life. Tried PC 110 but too big and lousy battery life. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:01:00 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > They still have the 600 line don't they, at least I have seen them > for sale. I don't really consider those handhelds though, they are too big. The same people that would probably replace a 200 with a subnotebook are the type of peopl that buy those. If you lump those in you should lump in the libretto, viao, and tinynote too. > > As far as what stores carry, if they don't carry things that people > buy alot then they soon go out of business, that is a basic fact of > business. So there must be some people out there buying CE machine Of course there is the HP name behind them too. I'm not saying CE does not sell, I just wonder how much compared to the 200. > from HP since there are stores carrying them and I have yet to see > one of them be dropped from store shelves. Shelf space in a retail I bought my first 200LX mail order. There was only one store that carried them and they were expensive. This was before CE after they had been out since the early '90's. > outlet is very har to come buy, companies fight with each other to > get a spot on a big chain store shelf since that means more sales. So > either some of the biggest electronic and computer chains in the > country are being run by idiots or CE devices are selling well enough > to maintain their shelf space. They could still be in the "new toy" region though. People could simply be buying them for that. The consumer market is very flakey, they could sell great this year then next--no sales at all, worth talking about. They are still very new. > > As far as pentium II and III yes that is pretty much what the > majority of people buy RETAIL, in major chain outlets. That is not Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:12:46 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads > used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load. > > > John Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that hardly matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down the block" is a compusa or equally large chain store. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 05:21:28 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: New game for 100/200LX - Snake MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html --=20 Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:29:14 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders writes: > > Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads > > used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load. > > > > > > John > > Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that hardly > matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down the > block" is a compusa or equally large chain store. Just had a Computer City close down. That's a pretty large chain. Not saying they closed down because of used dealers but you never know! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:27:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was Wanted: Alphaworks) Comments: To: Terry Owen , Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <2028CA436AA3D211BE710000E8404C33087AB7@qds-mail.quintrex.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have LotusWorks, complete with original disks (two 720k) and docs. LotusWorks was unlike other "works" integrated systems in that the components' file systems were "standardized" on the prevailing file format at that time. For example: - Spreadsheet used same files as Lotus 123. - Database used same files as dBase III Plus, Alpha/3, and Alpha/4. - Wordprocessor could save to ASCII. According to the docs, you could use two Commumications and nine Words, Spreadsheet, or Database services (windows or files) simultaneously. I'd consider selling it. Please send offers off list to weather@exis.net. ========================================================== At 12:27 PM 4/14/99 -0500, Terry Owen wrote: >Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is >now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy of >LotusWorks they want to unload? > >Terry >towen@quintrex.com >owen6511@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 01:33:28 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was Wanted: Alphaworks) What is the database like? Is it anything like the HP System Manager database? Don E. Weatherly writes: > I have LotusWorks, complete with original disks (two 720k) and docs. > > LotusWorks was unlike other "works" integrated systems in that the > components' file systems were "standardized" on the prevailing file format > at that time. For example: > > - Spreadsheet used same files as Lotus 123. > - Database used same files as dBase III Plus, Alpha/3, and Alpha/4. > - Wordprocessor could save to ASCII. > > According to the docs, you could use two Commumications and nine Words, > Spreadsheet, or Database services (windows or files) simultaneously. > > I'd consider selling it. > > Please send offers off list to weather@exis.net. > > ========================================================== > At 12:27 PM 4/14/99 -0500, Terry Owen wrote: > >Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is > >now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy of > >LotusWorks they want to unload? > > > >Terry > >towen@quintrex.com > >owen6511@earthlink.net > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:59:05 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Musielewicz wrote: > I was thinking of minor modifications to POST mainly in the > sorting and forwarding and using a front end so a person > that didn't want to use something like this wouldn't be afflicted > with the baggage. If you want a "poor man's list server", just add an alias to /etc/aliases on a UNIX server that is on the net and add all addresses. The palmtop is usually offline, so the distribution of the messages would only happen when you go online, and even then you would have to go online twice before the messages are really forwarded. Do you really believe that would be useful? Adding addresses to a list can be done by pressing "a". If you set up a section in POST.CFG like: ÝADDRESSES¨ Normal=POST.ADR My_List=LIST1.ADR POST/LX will ask you when pressin "a" to which file the address should be added. You can then easily edit that list by pressing Ctrl-L. Posting to that list works by using "FILE:LIST1.ADR" as an address. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:03:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904170016.RAA20636@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Fri, Apr 16, 1999 at 05:16:57PM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-17-00:16:57 A Meshar: > Bennett Todd: > > Very recent perls have got various sorts of compilers available; they don't > > apply to this question, and all of 'em need run-time support of one sort or > > another that's as heavy-weight as a full perl interpreter anyway. > > Applies COMPLETELY!!! That is exactly one of the questions I asked in this > thread. Can Perl be compiled and turned into a .EXE? No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce DOS executables. I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler, but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a perl executable is pretty much a whole perl. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:08:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David, > No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be > `Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for > your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless > that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know... Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4 or Perl5? I am guess you guys think it is not relevant because it cannot be done on the palmtop, but that is just an answer for now, perhaps in the future there will be a Perl v5 compilable and convertible to an executable. I dunno... Also, if Perl is so good (and it strikes me like a very flexible language!) then we should be able to use it in multiple environments on a server site, as well as a palmtop. For security purposes it would be nice to have it in an executable form on the server side. For similar reasons it would be nice to have it as an .exe on the palmtop too. Anyway, this is how I am thinking. Am I missing something big that I just have not seen? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:08:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net, John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, I am missing something still, and you told me I do and then you repeated the idea of turning Post/LX into a list server. That did not help me I am afraid. I don't know anything about Pegasus, so that is no help to me. Let's assume I am a total novice and you are trying to explain this to me. I want to know how you plan to implement a "server" on a client program. Let me see: Do yuo mean that someone sends an email to me and I then forward it to an whole list? That exists today, now, in Post/LX. Simply forward the message you receive to anyone you want, including a list. Adding someone to the mailing list and removing a person from the list is about as simple as opening a text file in Memo, finding the entry to remove and deleting the line, or just adding the new email to the list - then save the file. You want to automate it? Not in Post/LX - just use a simple batch program for that, c'mon!!! You want to make the forwarding of the message automatic? That can also be easily done with a macro in Post/LX. Not worth adding code _to_ the program to do this... Maybe Andreas thinks differently, but I think the usage of this feature is so minor that it is just not worth adding the code, ESPECIALLY since all this can be done with simple macros today with the existing product. Did I get what you intended this time? I am curious because it sounds intriguing until you look at it close up and then it stopped making sense to me. But as I said, perhaps there is more to your ide than I see so far. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:32:57 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: LOTUS 123 question Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Phil, thanks for the time you spent with my question. Unfortunately I cannot try your formula until I get my 200LX back from repair at Thaddeus. I think your proposal is interesting and should work, I had not thought of this possibility. However, what I was aiming at originally and still am is to substitute the {?} prompt in fxf{?}~a1..n60~ to input the file name by hand (a1..n60 being the range to extract) by the *reference* to a cell, containing the file name, *outside* the = string of makro commands. Your formula constitutes a workaround that would require a rearrangement of all makros (about 50 horizontal lines of them), squeezed into the free spaces of a very complex worksheet, which I would like to avoid. Also, in the data input stage, when the file name is defined, I would have to jump to a cell very remote from the main data area (a1..n60). I hope to get my machine back in the next few days and would like, if you agree, to follow up on this. Thanks a lot ! Winfried > Off the cuff here (didn't try it as part of a full macro yet)... > > '/fxv{ESC}test.dat~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~ > > This line was created using the Learn feature. The {LEFT x}{DOWN x} = stuff > selected the range to save. If you want your macro to change the name = of > the file, put the name on another line like this: > > '/txv{ESC} > test.dat > ~{BS}{LEFT 4}{{DOWN 2}.{RIGHT 2}{DOWN 3}~ > > Then have another part of your macro modify that cell. Be sure to have = the > macro {CALC} the sheet before it reads the filename cell. If you want = to > specify the range as part of the macro, use the same technique and = separate > out the stuff that defines the range and have your macro "create" the = range > on the fly. > > Good luck! > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Winfried Zettelmeyer ÝSMTP:wzettelmeyer@MICROCAD.ES¨ > > > > Hi all, > > I want to extract (save) part of a Lotus worksheet via a macro that > > uses the contents of a cell as the file name (/FXFfilename). > > Any idea how to accomplish this ? > > Thank you > > Winfried > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Communications in X-Finder Comments: To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote: > Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder? > If so can you share your configuration? > > TIA > > Antonio Just finished installing POST/LX under X-Finder on the TaskBar and it runs just fine. 362KB of memory is available before I start POST/LX and 239KB was available after I start POST/LX. The big test was to be able to open another file while composing this message with my editor (PalEdit). (:-) BTW: This message was composed and post under X-Finder. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Communications in X-Finder Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:08 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: > On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:31:59 0, Antonio Queiroz Menezes wrote: > > > Has anyone ever tried to launch WWW/LX or AcCis from X-Finder? > > If so can you share your configuration? > > You can go to the WWW.bat (I love the bat icon) and hit enter then type = -d > !post and it will launch, but there's not enough memory to run my = external > editor. It works just fine for me running POST/LX from the following batch file. c:\_dat\maxdos.com www -d "!POST" Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:40:40 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions In-Reply-To: <199904170908.CAA01939@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote: > David, > > > No, Avi, it doesn't _really_ apply. The answer to your question may be > > `Perhaps yes, but if so it requires a huge .DLL to run' My guess is for > > your purposes it doesn't matter much to be `compiled to an .EXE' unless > > that .EXE is `self-standing', but then what do I know... > > Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would > be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to > be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc > in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to > create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4 > or Perl5? To quote the Perl FAQ: --- How can I hide the source for my Perl program? Delete it. :-) Seriously, there are a number of (mostly unsatisfactory) solutions with varying levels of ``security''. --- The complete answer can be found in the perl faq here: http://language.perl.com/newdocs/pod/perlfaq3.html AFAIK, only few (if any at all) of the methods they suggest work with Perl4. Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly doesn't create havoc... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:23:45 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas A Meshar writes: > John, I am missing something still, and you told me I do and then you repeated > the idea of turning Post/LX into a list server. That did not help me I am > afraid. Nah, seems like you have it just fine. I'll look at it closer and see if it won't do it. Thanks John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:25:26 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas > > Do you really believe that would be useful? I guess it would depend on the persons needs. Some people would some people wouldn't. Thanks for the info on the rest. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:05:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: X-Files again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Hello again- Oops... In my last post about using zero-byte program launch files with X-Finder, I forgot something. Those of you using a copy of my .env file will need to add these lines to the "Execute by matched extension" section. .xfk=09,e/=09,%x .xfl=09,/=09,$x %x These are in the original .env file that comes with Finder R.8 - but aren't in the file I sent. (That was a modified version of the .env from the older version). -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:12:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Palmtop Circuit news update. Hello all, There are some more news about Palmtop Circuit. They did find the program pack both on tapes and actual distribution diskette sets, so everything goes fine, except: They wish to have access to 100 or 200LX palmtop (for app. one hour) to try if rediscovered diskette sets are OK and will ins- tall correctly on the palmtop, before selling it to the general public. The testing will be held on 22nd of April. (Background info: This package was developed using a HP95LX, owned by the program author; HP100LX specific adaptation was done on loan unit, they borrowed from HP Hungary for 3 months. So they no longer have access to a HP DOS palmtop. And they have not sold the software during the last 16 months. So I think it's a good idea to check if all is well.) They need someone to go there with a palmtop and the connec- tivity pack; they will install it and run a few pre-prepared circuit simulations, to see if the program still works OK. Why I write this here? I have no LX myself, although I will ask local LX users to help. But none of them has 2x crystal (DS) speed upgraded LX machines or 8/32/64MB ones! I know that T2T DS upgrades work with 99% of all programs and other brand or homemade speed upgrades work with >= 90%; however Ýthey¨ cannot guarantee, that Palmtop Circuit will run with DS, unless someone with a doublespeed, memory upgraded LX comes to the rescue to help test it. I'll try to locate a proud speed-boosted LX owner in the vicinity to volunteer. You'll be able to buy by faxing the credit card number to them, seems like this would be the preferred method of most of those, who gave me feedback. I see, some wish to have access to review from reliable sources, on how good is it; before buying. I will ask the Palmtop Circuit developer, if he has a copy of the palmtop newspaper issue, which once reviewed the software. Then I can scan/OCR/post it, I hope. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:34:49 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit news update. Does the program require libraires like pspice does? Do you know if the manual will explain how to build them if needed? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:43:26 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit news update. > They wish to have access to 100 or 200LX palmtop (for app. one > hour) to try if rediscovered diskette sets are OK and will ins- > tall correctly on the palmtop, before selling it to the general > public. The testing will be held on 22nd of April. Why not see if they won't email a copy to Thaddeus? They would be able to run tests on both double speeds and single and could most likely give a good review of the software. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Password Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Recently I was install Jkit (the Japanese environment) and I have a problem when it tried to create EMS. That problem has been resolved however, now I lost the ability to set passwords. I tried reinitializing my palmtop and also took the batteries out over night. I can enter a password and confirm it but when I shut off and turn on my palmtop there is no password protection. I also seem to have lost the hidden alarm file on my C drive also. My C drive is an original 4 meg HP drive. I'd appreciate any ideas. TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:43:56 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Password Problem You probably have something screwed in the ram. have you tried going into diagnostics on+esc and doing the ram test? aguze118 writes: > Recently I was install Jkit (the Japanese environment) and I have a problem > when it tried to create EMS. That problem has been resolved however, now I > lost the ability to set passwords. I tried reinitializing my palmtop and also > took the batteries out over night. I can enter a password and confirm it but > when I shut off and turn on my palmtop there is no password protection. I also > seem to have lost the hidden alarm file on my C drive also. My C drive is an > original 4 meg HP drive. I'd appreciate any ideas. > TIA > Tony Guzewicz > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:20:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: HV ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andreas & All! Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format? My $.02 Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:23:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: List down? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is the list down, or is it just me? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:39:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: List down? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > Is the list down, or is it just me? Never mind... I just answered my own question. Something's wrong with the /var partition on the hplx.net machine. It will be down for a few hours while I reinstall Linux. Sorry for the inconvenience, everybody... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:21:12 -0400 Reply-To: Nicholas Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nicholas Chan Subject: Post/LX Ideas? In-Reply-To: <199904161736.BAA02684@sophia.pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, something like the 3Com Palm. Sync to the desktop email program, download unread mails, reply and send selected or all replies via 3Com Palm modem, upload the replies to be archived in the PC and any unsent replies to the desktop email program to upload. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:53:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: hplx.net back up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My machine is back up after a pretty harrowing reinstall of Linux. And with the same IP address I had before I shut it down... talk about luck! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:12:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Communications in X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 17 Apr 1999 04:34:07 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > Just finished installing POST/LX under X-Finder on the TaskBar and it How? :) 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:43:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bennett: > No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so > whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce > DOS executables. Ok, so the question was reasonable, but the answer is that there is no such tools available. Yuck... > I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler, > but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a > perl executable is pretty much a whole perl. Too many cooks in the soup, too! Makes a great medium for bugs to fester in... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 16:25:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: HV ideas Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Al: > Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought > I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables > > Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format? I am not sure Andreas will post what I am going to say here himself... Here goes: There is no chance for any development in HV. Significant bugs will be fixed. Aside from that there is not room for features, no room for improvements, no room to make it behave differently. It won't happen. Andreas can give much more technical details, but let me say this: The program is about maxed out in terms of code. If we add one more thing, and its memory requirements go right through the roof. That will make it impossible to run inside System Manager, and perhaps not even on the palmtop. So anyway, I am echoing what Andreas has told us many many times, it just won't happen. I am sorry. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bennett: > No, they don't apply; recent perls aren't available to run under DOS, so > whatever compiler support they may have is not available for trying to produce > DOS executables. > > I suppose you could try and use the compile-to-C version as a cross-compiler, > but I bet that wouldn't get you far, since the run-time required to hold up a > perl executable is pretty much a whole perl. I went looking for a Perl5 port and of course, as you said, none out there... How disappointing! :( Well, at least Perl4 is available, so much of the work can be roughed out on palmtops then moved to the server and tested. Sure would be nice to use some of the more advanced aspects of Perl5 - I did some reading and the differences in "tools" (i.e. what can be done) are quite considerable. Oh well, I guess you can't win them all! I really appreciate the very knowledgeable assistance you provided, and that of several others here. This thread has given me a shortcircuit in a way, sort of like instant learning! :) It is amazing how fast learning here can be vs. plodding theough manuals and lit. After reading what you wrote and others, the bookreading is much more focused and more directed and a heck of a lof more productive! Good job, guys!!! Thank you all... (Not that I am done yet, I'll be back with more :) ...) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > -Bennett > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laust, Thanks for chiming in on the Perl stuff... > > Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would > > be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to > > be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc > > in my plan. So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to > > create executables from Perl? Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4 > > or Perl5? > > To quote the Perl FAQ: > > --- > How can I hide the source for my Perl program? > > Delete it. :-) Seriously, there are a number of (mostly > unsatisfactory) solutions with varying levels of ``security''. > --- I think I saw that. It seemed like an asnwer to a different question. > The complete answer can be found in the perl faq here: > http://language.perl.com/newdocs/pod/perlfaq3.html Yep! Been there, spent lots of time there... > Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly > doesn't create havoc... Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc. Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize _other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't do it. If it just an interesting app for the palmtop, sure, why not. Unless it has a significant commercial value, and there is technology in it that I cannot release. Example: WWW/LX has some technology in it which, if released, will make our sales go to ZERO! I think that would be stupid for us to release. Aside from that, the idea of open source is very good and very attractive to me, but a blanket application makes no sense. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:31:23 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Turbocpu (was Slow-Saving PhoneBook) Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stan wrote: >Gosh, I wish this utility would go away - it is not what it >seems to be. > >TURBOCPU does NOT speed up the CPU in any way whatsoever. All >it does is shorten some of the wait states that are built into >the system for accessing the internal RAM and ROM and some of >the I/O devices. > >Those faster CPU speeds you are seeing reported by the >benchmarks are false, inflated readings because of the wait >state modifications. It is just snake oil. Hi Stan & list I understand the wait states etc and agree that no CPU speed increase happens. It "appears" to increase the speed. Although the snake oil is very apparent after real world testing.(see below) Thanks Stan. I used Pkzip to zip D:\dos\*.* to c: using Turbocpu and also without. Speeds timed with a stopwatch so may be a little off yet not the 3 seconds averaged. With turbocpu time was 38.4 secs without was 35.6 averages. This was on a vanilla 2M 200LX on batteries. Same test on a DS8M was 19.4 secs. The only disadvantage I have found when using this tsr is that the comm port wont connect unless I run normcpu or remove the prog. Is there any other negatives I have missed? Curiously I found another glitch using Turbo.. Stopwatch ran SLOWER when turbo installed. 30Secs RT measured 22.1 on the turboed machine. Any comments? TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:32:27 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken Comments: To: Philippe Lewis In-Reply-To: <01f601be882f$be6f2cb0$8b65140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:36:32 -0700 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , Philippe Lewis From: Philippe Lewis Subject: Re: My HP LX 200 latch has broken To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Good luck. Hp didn't have it when I called a couple years ago. Don't think > it's even *listed* as a separate part. Try getting a broken 95LX or 100LX > on the net and use that latch. In my case, I just left the LX like that > and just started being a bit more careful about throwing the machine it > around. In a bind, a lobster elastic will keep it closed pretty well. > What is that? Where do you get it? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:57:04 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market al chin writes: > Semper mobilis, Does HP still keep the military supplied with 360LXs? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:15:04 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: System wide password Hello I run HPAlarm on my Times2Tech 200LX and notice it doesn't work when I have the System password installed. It wakes it up and shows the password screen, briefly shows the alarm screen beeps once then shuts off. Is there a simple way to get it working with the password without going through a big rigamarole of doing keystuffs or something? Thanks John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:16:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Wireless LX Connectivity (Extreme) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As many of you may know, I have been known to occasianlly work the Russian Space Station, Mir, while mobile from my patrol car using my LX and a BayPac modem. While I am always amazed that I can do that, it's at 1200 baud and a 'good' pass of the Mir Space Station only lasts about 10 minutes and I have to battle with many other earthbound stations for access to it. I thought that this was the ultimate in cool until last night....... Mack, our friend & hero, was on a civilian ride along with me while I was on patrol. I like to call these ride alongs 'Jeff & Mack's Excellent Adventures' in honor of a favorite movie of mine. Well, Mack decides to tell me about his new cellular telephone. He promptly brings it into view and I see it's one of the new Sagem (spelling?) phones that I have seen mentioned here on the list. He then proceeds to tell me that he can check his email totally wireless. By now, I am thinking that I have got to see this in action, but darn it, my dispatcher gives me a burgular alarm call that is some distance away :( Well, while enroute to the burgular alarm, Mack goes ahead and hooks his LX up to the phone via a custom cable that I beileve Shier made. Here's the cool part, I think that I can claim without a doubt that Mack is the first person to check email and news while travelling in excess of 100 miles an hour, down the interstate on a Code 3 call in a police car. It was definately cool! Later in the shift, while I'm doing the 'police thing' and going from one call to another, Mack is sitting there connected to a Linux shell account using Pine and he could have just as easily been using Lynx or WWW/LX to surf the web. I have got to get one of the phones! We even found a place on the interior of the car in which he could clip the phoe to get it up and out of the way. What truly amazed me was the fact that he was getting such a good connection out of the little phone. We were definately in some very rural areas, far away from major population centers, yet he maintained a fairly solid connection. Anyways, I just thought that this was one of the ultimate cool things I have seen done with the LX and I'm sure it's another first for the LX. Oh yeah, I almost forgot!!! I think Mack has now been deputized by the local Waffle House staff.... isn't that right Mack ? 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 18:25:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Wireless LX Connectivity (Extreme) In-Reply-To: <199904180216.VAA01126x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Mack, our friend & hero, was on a civilian ride along with me while I > was on patrol. I like to call these ride alongs 'Jeff & Mack's > Excellent Adventures' in honor of a favorite movie of mine. Okay, that does it, I'm moving to Alabama. Just tell me which zip code... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 03:18:21 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake In-Reply-To: <199904170720.DAA21480@chmls11.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John L. Stanley wrote: > I tried the URL you gave. Found your game page and clicked the = "Snakes" >link. The AOL server told me "The requested URL was not found on this >server.". Could you take a shot at fixing the link and let us know when= its >available? Sorry about that. The link is now working. It's at http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html --=20 Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 02:38:09 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market In-Reply-To: <199903171957.PNR00422@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are dependent on a desktop. And the HP200LX is more like independent computer. Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view? Do you agree with the above? Or is this a arbitrary impression? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:31:01 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: pushkeys There's a program in the d:\bin directory called pushkeys.com Anyone know what it does? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:03:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Eddie Archive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wasn't someone on the list archiving the eddie site since it's no longer available? I am specifically looking for a database file that was used for logging amateur radio contacts. I believe it was call ars.gdb or something along those lines. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 23:25:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Eddie Archive? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > Wasn't someone on the list archiving the eddie site since it's no > longer available? I am specifically looking for a database file that > was used for logging amateur radio contacts. I believe it was call > ars.gdb or something along those lines. Check out http://archive.hplx.net (or http://www.hplx.net/archive/ using WWW/LX), where Bill Childers has archived a lot of palmtop-related stuff, eddie among it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 01:20:55 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market Andy writes: > It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are > dependent on a desktop. And the HP200LX is more like > independent computer. Yes > > Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view? > Do you agree with the above? Or is this a arbitrary impression? Its not us! They are advertised and sold as PC companions, a supplment to the desktop--kind of a super PDA. The 200LX was always sold as a palmtop computer. There's no doubt they could be fine computers but the developer are assuming that if you use one you got a desktop with WinXX on it and that you want to use it with the daxx thing. CE programs need to be installed first on the desktop then the desktop installs it on the CE unit. CE programs are cut down versions of the real thing. They assume your going to do any real work on a desktop. Some programs will actually only store data into the storage ram. You can't tell it where to store it (this is just silly!!) 200LX programs install just like any computer program. You can install using desktop, internet, cd-rom or floppy drive. You don't NEED a desktop with a 200LX. The 200LX is really a computer in a small format. It is a 186 XT that uses a memory ramdisk as the C drive. You can run any DOS program that'll run on a XT so you can run uncut versions of the real think. You can do all the REAL work right on the 200LX. You can store your data where ever you please for *any* program. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 00:14:23 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: 200LX vs. Psion Series 5 Comments: To: MCarson@ORST.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mina Carson wrote: > > Yeah Chris! The readers of this list listened to ME go on and on when I made > a similar move to Psion Series 5 and then scuttled back again to the 200lx. > You cited some reasons I forgot that were equally potent to me, like the > "made-up" feel of the software, its internal inconsistency, the fragility of > the Psion case, the unreadability of the screen (so murky compared to the > HP), my homesickness for the LX database, the truly profligate and unwieldy > way the internal architecture stores data here and there, the comparatively > short battery life, etc., etc. You know, I've kept my hands on the Psion, > but if there's anyone out there who wants one (even after Chris's and my own > and others' negative advertising), please email me. I've even got the > blankity-blank modem, AND the Halliwell movie software (that is, a big ol' > program that lists hundreds and hundreds of movies, actors, etc.). I'm not > sure it's appropriate to advertise a non-HP product on this list (I can't > remember), so I won't quote a price...but email me if you're interested. > > Mina Carson > mcarson@orst.edu > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mina! I have a HP95LX AND HP200LX ALSO HP320LX. TO ADD ALSO PSION 3A.WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE INPROVIMENTS THAT PSION HAS MADE (Psion 5) how much would let it(psion 5) go for$$$ Bob Elliott Jr ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:28:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Post/LX Ideas? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nicholas Chan wrote: > Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, something like the 3Com > Palm. Sync to the desktop email program, download unread mails, reply and send > selected or all replies via 3Com Palm modem, upload the replies to be archived in the > PC and any unsent replies to the desktop email program to upload. POST/LX is a self-contained email software package and not just a desktop-add-on. For that reason, there is no desktop counterpart that it could sync with. However, if you use a desktop with an operating system (and not just a desktop crippled with Windows), you can have the kind of syncing you want for free and the messages don't even need to be moved around for syncing: simply install a POP3 server on the desktop. You then can either access it using POST/LX or using your favourite desktop email client. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:28:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: HV ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al Kind wrote: > Hi Andreas & All! > > Since there seem to be POST/LX ideas being suggested, I'd thought > I'd chime in with a suggested HV improvment...Tables > > Is it possible to render tables in a more readable format? You can turn tables on and off from the Options menu (just in case you don't know). Tables are often "abused" to do graphical layouting of the pages. There is simply no chance to satisfyingly support that on the palmtop due to lack of memory and the small screen size. And even if that would not be the case, HV is simply not extendable anymore. It was pushed way beyond the limit of what is feasable on the palmtop. If I add something to the code, I must remove something else. Also because of all the trickery with memory, the code has reached a complexity so that if I change something, something else breaks. The conclusion is: there will be no improvement of HV at all. At least not until there is a 386 palmtop, in which case the memory constraints would be removed and I might rewrite most parts of the program to make it clean and extendable again. Sorry about that: there WON'T be ANY improvement of HV! Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:28:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andy wrote: > It's been mentioned a few times that other WinCE machines are > dependent on a desktop. And the HP200LX is more like > independent computer. > > Could anyone characterize what it is there that suggests this view? > Do you agree with the above? Or is this a arbitrary impression? Using an out-of-the-box WinCE gadget, you cannot even exchange a file with a (non-Windows) computer. You cannot even install any software, you cannot even enter an Umlaut, you cannot read a WinWord or Excel document. All in all: with a WinCE gadget with out a desktop, you can do less than you could do with a $50 Casio organiser 8 years ago. The 200LX, on the other hand, is a full computer. You can do everything you could do on a desktop (except running Windows, of course). The only thing I use the laptop I own is for making backups of the data on the palmtop. All other stuff I do on the palmtop. For example WWW/LX, POST/LX, HV and PE were completely developed (written, compiled etc) on the palmtop. This would be impossible with a WinCE gadget. Without its "umbilical cord" to the desktop, it is virtually useless IMO. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:51:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Maddern Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Maddern Subject: "Power" to do manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX built in one but not limited to 16 subsets? Reason for asking - I use the built in to do list a lot in my job! I have it customised with a daily to do and master to do with a macro for changing priorities and moving items between the two, even from within notes. It works well for me but what I'd really like is a "power to do manager", something like you get in Schedule + where you can have unlimited categories and it gives you the ability to just show to do's from certain categories e.g. projects, administration, computer etc and to filter on other things like people. I found a couple of activity managers at the Simtel site I posted earlier but they're not "list - based" like I want. The LX's built - in database would be PERFECT for what I want to do but I want access to more than the available subsets. I wonder if playing with Lotus 1-2-3 could be an answer? Micro Logic at http://www.miclog.com advertise a neat - looking power to do manager but it's windows based. I'm going to ask them if they have a DOS version hanging around for sale and will keep you posted. Dr Peter Maddern Technical Manager North Wales, UK. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 09:40:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Maddern Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Maddern Subject: DOS software In-Reply-To: <923730773.111712.0@uconnvm.uconn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi, I came across a really comprehensive site of DOS software at:- http://serviceftp.flashnet.it/simtel.net/msdos/index-msdos-pre.html Mainly a mixture of freeware and shareware. I hope you find some good things there! Dr Peter Maddern Technical Manager North Wales, UK. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:26:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: PWRMENU & LXMAP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Peichl has done a great job with his LXMAP and just recently recommended to use it in conjunction with the DOS menu shell PWRMENU.EXE. I followed his recommendation and moved all my DOS software startup into PWRMENU. I have problems of getting LXMAP to work however. The dir which holds LXMAP and all the map-files is included in my path statement. The PWRMENU.INI holds the whole DOS command including the path of LXMAP. If I call PWRMENU from within the directory where I save the maps - then it works. If I call it from outside - then no action. Is there anything obvious which I missed. BTW : if you call any DOS programs from within PWRMENU which need overlay files (such as dBASE) you have to include their directory in your path statement of autoexec.bat HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:43:59 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: NKIT, Borl C++ V1.0 IDE => Link-Error with INFTEST.C MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LX-programmers, The NKIT-Introduction says: "This development kit enables programers to make EXM programs using LHAPI (Lotus Handheld Application Program Interface) embedded in the ROM of the HP 100/200 LX. The following two are the target compilers supported by this kit: - Turbo C (Borland International) - LSI C-86, trial (freeware) version (LSI Japan) By using LHAPI, a programer can fully utilize the embedded routines, such as menus, function keys and task switches, in the same way as the internal ROM applications of the 100/200 LX." NKIT (on S.U.P.E.R.) comes with excamples; I could build and install INFTEST.EXM using the supplied batch file TCCMAKE INFTEST on the palmtop. But using the IDE (Integrated Development Environment of Borland C++ Vers 1.0 from 1990) on the palmtop, I get two Linker Errors: '__REALVCTVECTOR defined in module C0.ASM is duplicated in module TCCSTART.ASM' '_ABORT defined in module C0.ASM is duplicated in module TCCSTART.ASM' I've tried to set the options in the IDE to what is used with the BAT-File, especially to the small memory model (cs). I would like to use the IDE - any advice? Thanks in advance. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:41:30 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: "Power" to do manager Comments: To: Peter Maddern In-Reply-To: <2CybyjA4zZG3EwjI@devt.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, > > Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX > built in one but not limited to 16 subsets? > At least you could use several GDBs, open one with DB and one with Phone and switch between GDBs fast by using KEY200 macros with a single key press. Another solution may be: You should be able to pick a subset definition from a list and cut/paste it with a macro into a GDB-subset definition. May take a while until the subset is displayed. Don't know if this helps in your case. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: pushkeys Comments: To: "INTERNET:a123456@bitstream.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>what's pushkeys (available only on US Palmtops?) Here's the "User's Digest" version of the Pushkeys article from a 1994 issue of PTP by yours truly. = Hopefully this will get you started. PUSHKEYS is a TSR program that reads the contents of a .MAC file created = in System Macros and runs each macro. = 1. You can add keystrokes to a macro that will let you run DOS commands -= - something you can't ordinarily do with standard System Macros. = 2. You can have large macros, 2,550 characters, without having to use the= "chain" command. = Install : Terminate All... applications. At the DOS prompt type d:\bin\pushkeys /i and press (ENTER) and type 100 and press (ENTER) to restart System Manager. = Example: = Create a simple macro file, TEST.MAC, that runs two slightly different versions of the DOS DIR command. In System Macro, save your current set o= f macros. Press (MENU) File New to clear all the macro fields. Move the cursor to the Fn+F1: macro. In the Contents field key in {Enter}{More}{Menu}AL{Filer}{Menu} OD#100#DIR D:\/S>C:\DIR_D.TXT{Enter} #100#DIR D:\ /S /AH >>C:\- DIR_D.TXT {Enter}#100#EXIT{Enter}{Memo}{Menu}FOC:\ DIR_D.TXT{Enter} = Press (F10) (MENU) File Save As... C:\TEST.MAC = Create a batch file that contains one line: @d:\bin\pushkeys c:\test.mac= . Save the file as C:\TESTPK.BAT. = The macro above starts with an {Enter} to return to System Manager after the batch file has been run from FILER. It then closes all applications and goes to DOS to run two slightly different versions of the DIR command= . = The directory listings are redirected and saved in a file named D_DIR.TXT= , which is loaded into MEMO at the end of the macro. = The #100# command tells PUSHKEYS to pause for 100 time units (100 * 1/18.= 2 ~=3D 5 secs). = There's more to the article than the List would tolerate. = Do WinCE machines have a macro capability?? An enquiring mind wants to know? .ed. ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Avi Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 RE: Pegasus email as a listserv John Musielewicz showed me how PMail could act as a listserv. It has filtering rules that can look for "subscribe", "unsubscribe", "undeliverable", etc. and have the program act accordingly. = I thought it would be way cool to use a Palmtop to manage the Palmtop Pap= er Newsletter. That's when I discovered that PMail can only send to 64 addresses at a time. Also, if I read the help file correctly, I have to have 64 copies of the same message. For 5000+ emails, that's a lot of dis= k space. (John, correct me if I'm wrong.) It would have been a "coup-de-Net", but someone with more time on their hands might be able to= pull it off. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:49:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: "Power" to do manager Comments: To: Peter Maddern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX= built in one but not limited to 16 subsets? Other databases refer to "subsets" as "queries". You can have as many of them as you want in dBASE III or the freeware DataPerfect. There is a workaround for the 16 subset limit, presented originally in Th= e HP Palmtop Paper, database issue. Basically, cut the SSL version of the lesser used subsets and paste them in a memo file. Reserve one subset as "unnamed" and when you want to use the subset, copy the SSL code from the= memo file and paste it into the general definition screen of the unnamed subset and activate it. (I did say this was a workaround, didn't I ?) It almost sounds like you're ready to move beyond the built in database t= o Lotus Agenda. It will let you slice and dice things to your heart's content. .ed. ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:21:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Zarick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Zarick Subject: Internet Acess in France MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290818663__" --__next_part__1290818663__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem into a French phone jack? --__next_part__1290818663__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy Zarick. --email: andymd@biosys.net---- --visit my web site & sign my guestbook--- --www.biosys.net/andymd (updated 01/30/99)--- --__next_part__1290818663__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:55:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: pushkeys Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Do WinCE machines have a macro capability?? An enquiring mind wants to > know? > Can't you lean across the aisle and ask? (G) Not built-in from what I know. bUseful now has a script language that supposedly helps with calling cis with win-ce devices. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:55:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France Comments: To: Andrew Zarick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use > my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does > anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in > France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem > into a French phone jack? IBM.net from what I understand has international nodes as does Compuserve. A friend did have problems connecting there last month. Dialtone problems and some other quirks, I understand. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:17:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I wish it were true, but I am afraid CE sales far out pace 200LX sales. Not surprising since HP in its marketing approach only wants the marketplace to think CE. HP says they will keep selling the 200LX as long as there is a reasonable demand. Let's hope word of mouth and DOS solution sales keep things going for a good while. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:26:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit news update. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Tamas, I assume you are talking about our HP PALMTOP PAPER magazine. The material in that magazine is not in the public domain. You need to ask us for permission to post any of our copywrited material. We almost always say, yes, assuming proper credit is given. All past issues are on our HP Palmtop Paper CD Infobase, so there is no need to scan and OCR it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:48:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leslie Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leslie Cohn Subject: Internet Acess in Israel Comments: To: Andrew Zarick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am wondering about internet access in ISRAEL. If anyone knows, please comment. Les Andrew Zack wrote: >I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use my HP to keep in >touch with my family while there. Does anyone have a suggestion for a US >based ISP with access numbers in France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need >to plug my modem into a French phone jack? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:14:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Victor Roberts Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: PalmTree: Palmtop case Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > My Palmtree case did not have a belt or other loop. Merely was intended > to fit into my suit jacket pocket. Mine is leather. It is showing its > age. I believe I have the same case. The leather on mine is fine, but the case is lined with a plastic material that is starting to crack on the inside seams. Vic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:32:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: pushkeys Comments: To: "INTERNET:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>Can't you lean across the aisle and ask? (G) That would really stretch me to the limits: 99 miles as the crow flies. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 10:09:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: pushkeys In-Reply-To: <199904181232_MC2-7274-997C@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Ed Keefe wrote: > That would really stretch me to the limits: 99 miles as the crow > flies. You'll have to lean pretty hard, but I say go for it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:50:11 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It tells me 'file not found', when I try to download it. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:03:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Internet Acess in Israel Comments: To: Leslie Cohn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am > wondering about internet access in ISRAEL. If anyone knows, please comment. Israel is one of the most "wired" countries in the world. You'll probably be best off signing up with a local ISP there for a month, or you can try a compuserve account for a month, just to get into the internet, not for any other purpose... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 12:03:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Avi Meshar Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed, > I thought it would be way cool to use a Palmtop to manage the Palmtop Pap > er > Newsletter. That's when I discovered that PMail can only send to 64 > addresses at a time. Also, if I read the help file correctly, I have to > have 64 copies of the same message. For 5000+ emails, that's a lot of dis :-( ... I had a need to send email to many customers at once. My XXXX.ADR was many hundreds of lines strong then, probably above thousand(?) A single email copy and the list was sent to the ISP then the whole thing just went out. That already exists on the product with no modifications. I regualrly use smaller lists, up to 100 names or so usually but had that one giant one... It seems the limit is only the size of the XXXXX.ADR file and nothing else. Although some ISPs will give you a hard time when you send email to thousands, assuming you are spamming these people. Aside frm that I see no issue with Post/LX sending messages to large number of people at once. Why don't you try it next Newsletter? (I'll send you a complimentary registration if you need one....) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:24:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jack Betz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Betz Subject: Re: "Power" to do manager Comments: To: Peter Maddern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AFIK, Micro Logic still offers the DOS based Info Select for sale. I contacted them in February and they still have a few copies, but you need to find someone in Customer Service that knows what you are talking about. They offered to sell me a copy with the provision that it was not supported, and that the "tickler" function would stop working later this year. It is not fully Y2K compliant in that area, but will continue to work. They have no plans to update the software. Jack > Micro Logic at http://www.miclog.com advertise a neat - looking power to > do manager but it's windows based. I'm going to ask them if they have a > DOS version hanging around for sale and will keep you posted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 14:37:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leslie Cohn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leslie Cohn Subject: Re: Internet Acess in Israel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually I was MOST interested in E-MAIL rather than the web. >just to get into the internet, not for any >other purpose... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:53:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Finder R.9 On SUPER (English docs!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Greetings Finder gang... Paid a visit to SUPER earlier today and found an even newer version of X-Finder (R.9). This has English language docs, some new features, and includes source code. In this version, the .xpt file for defining the palmtop screen is out (although there's a reference in the .env comments). Also the .xff symbolic links work like they should now. There's a new way to create GUI sub-menus, too. Looks good. Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 15:58:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Database Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ok gang, I need to ask a question and please don't laugh . I have never really had a need to create my own database. I use the super.gdb to keep up with the files on the S.U.P.E.R. site and it loads and works great. I now want to create my own database so I promply used the 'Define New Databse' function but it keeps pulling up the default Restaurant database :( How do I go about making my own database? Can someone give me some simple steps to follow? 73 es tnx Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:07:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Finder R.9 On SUPER (English docs!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 16:53:00 -0400, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Paid a visit to SUPER earlier today and found an even newer version of > X-Finder (R.9). This has English language docs, some new features, and > includes source code. Geesh.... I finally almost get the one I've got setup and there's a new one to have to fool with . Can we use the same .env file and just rewrite the finder.exm? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:15:14 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: "Power" to do manager Comments: To: Peter Maddern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX >built in one but not limited to 16 subsets? Not the same look and feel, but have a look at DataPerfect on Supersite. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:02:10 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for >all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! That's not correct: On a Unix machine only the server should have read rights on the Perl script, because the .pl or .cgi extention is associated with perl. You cannot open such a perl script with an editor from outside, unless you have access with telnet to this directory. So you should not give read rights for the directory. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:21:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Corso Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Tony Corso Subject: LED flashlight (was LED light ready!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT found a review of an led flashlight at an aviation website this is the url for the ad (usual disclaimer that i have no commercial relation) http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/photon/index.html and url for the review, (you must registerwith avweb Ýno cost¨ to read) http://www.avweb.com/articles/flashlit.html rigging up a stand for this, (nice "spreading lens" on flashlight ) might be easier Regards T > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 08:27:58 GMT > From: Daniel Hertrich > Subject: LED light ready! > Hi again, > > the instructions for building the LED light > for the LX is now available in the MORE &... > section on www.palmtop.net > > or directly on the URL > www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html > > Thanks to Mitch Hamm! > > GTX > daniel > > ------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Hertrich > Germany > email: d.hertrich@gmx.de > ------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:49:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Finder R.9 On SUPER (English docs!) Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 18 Apr 1999 17:43:17 -0400 (EDT) 35m58s ago ... On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Geesh.... I finally almost get the one I've got setup and there's a new = one > to have to fool with . Can we use the same .env file and just = rewrite > the finder.exm? Yep. Worked for me. But don't use Finder itself to do the rewrite. Close Finder and use Filer or STS. The docs mention some changes to make in the .env - but it works anyway. I made the changes by using F7 (Custom). -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:08:12 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If > anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at > http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html Hey Curtis has done it again! Snake is a pretty good game. I don't know if I'll play it much away from AC power though. I try to avoid running action games where something is always moving versus games where the pc waits for my input. My (il)logic is that it takes much more battery to keep the action game constantly running. Is this a valid concern? cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:14:59 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use > my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does > anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in > France. Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem > into a French phone jack? I know that UUNet has a Paris number (a long-distance call). Other than that, there's always the ever-present CompuServe and AOL. You will need to get an adaptor for your modem to work in France - it's comparatively bulky and old-fashioned looking, but it works! If you want cheap(ish) Net access while you're there (no POP3 email), try out France Explorer, a free program from France Telecom. -Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:15:07 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: A Meshar A Meshar writes: > Some questions to you Perl hotshots: Having written a 27000 line EDA program in Perl, I'll take a shot :-) > 1. Can anyone provide some discussion about PERL versions? I have a PERL 4.1.9 > and another (recently announced here) version 4.0.36 (with PAL ext.) Perl 5.005 is the latest production version. There is no 16 bit port of perl 4 that I know of. Perl 5 added object oriented features (which I personally love and use every day at work) and lots of other miscellaneous stuff. The latest version I know of that runs ons the palmtop is 4.0.36. > Books I see are usually for Perl 5. Nobody admits to using Perl 4 any more :-) > 2. Could someone knowledgeable please provide some info on differences and > relevance to Palmtop? See above. > 3. Also, if you can, some info on implementation of Perl in the WWW > environment. Specifically: Let's suppose I want to add some "brains" behind > the Webpages. I understand I can write PERL programs that will be activated > when one clicks on a link, or otherwise fetches a URL. Perl is arguably the leading scripting language for CGI scripts on the web. Everything you want to do above is done every second by millions of web servers around the world. > 4. What is the extent of the work PERL can do? > > I mean: Can it generate entire HTML docs and send them on the fly to the > requesting user? Perl can do anything :-) There is an archive of perl modules called CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) which has a module for just about everything (including one for working with HP200 GDB files). > 5. Can I using Perl go to some URL on a Webpage that uses a form, enter the > data in the form, "press" Enter, then grab the output, manipulate that output > and include parts of it in a HTML doc created on the fly which then would be > displayed to the original requester? I want to keep the access to the form > and the results invisible from the original requester, i.e. just process the > stuff, and repackage it in ways that are more er... palatable?, readable? Yes. I have a perl script which grabs the latest Dilbert cartoon for me every day. > Anyone can provide info on this I'd appreciate a great deal. I am sure many of > us here are hungry for this kind of info. Perl is the best thing since sliced bread. Don't let anyone tell you different. Pity it's a bit to resource hungry to do major things on the palmtop. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 18:36:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Another Database Question Okay, thanks to some list members, I now have set up a database :) Now how do I go about assigning an icon to it? Also, if I have a field setup as a category where it provides a pull down menu of items to pick, how do I insert the items to pick from in the pull down box? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:14:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Another Database Question Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:40:38 -0400 (EDT) 01h02m43s ago ... On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Okay, thanks to some list members, I now have set up a database :) Now = how > do I go about assigning an icon to it? Also, if I have a field setup as = a > category where it provides a pull down menu of items to pick, how do I > insert the items to pick from in the pull down box? Hi Jeff- To add a category choice, close the list box and type the item. (200LX manual pg 4-22) As for assigning an icon to your DB, now you're using XF it's simple. In XF go to the directory with the new DB, hit ÝSpacebar¨ to mark it, hit 0 to go back to the /Palmtop icon screen, and hit ÝCtrl¨- (Control minus) to create a symbolic link. If the DB is called jeff.gdb then the link will be jeff.xff This works right in the new XF, but not in R.8 For that version, you need to use your editor to create a file called jeff.xfe - that reads (for example) open c:\_dat\jeff.gdb - and put it in your c:\palmtop directory. You can pick an icon from your collection, or create one. Name it jeff.icn and copy it to your icon.lzh file. If you have open.exe installed, and are working with a .env based on what I sent, this should work. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:31:09 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Printing in HV Does HV print documents? I looked in the help but didn't see anything. Will a print screen print the whole document? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:25:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Icon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit So.... are any of our resident icon artists going to make us a nifty icon for Snake? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:50:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Backlit LX... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link that shows a backlit 200LX! Cool! Wonder how they did that!? http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 20:52:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlit LX... In-Reply-To: <2B24B1089184D111B2A90000F6AA27B30178CF09@memex1.harrahs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote: > I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link that shows a > backlit 200LX! Cool! Wonder how they did that!? > http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm Probably with an electroluminescent panel. The only trouble with that is that it requires an external power supply, really, and it has to be on all the time to be able to see the screen. But I'd still install it if I could get it to work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:39:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: "Power" to do manager Comments: To: Peter Maddern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is there a DOS database out there with the same look and feel as the LX > built in one but not limited to 16 subsets? Check out Lotus Agenda availlable at SUPER. It has no GUI but is very powerfull in managing subsets and views. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:40:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Another Icon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist and what I came up with was quite strange looking . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:50:34 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit LX... Steve Dowell writes: > I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link > that shows a backlit 200LX! Cool! Wonder how they did > that!? > http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm I didn't see an external power supply in the picture! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:55:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Backlit LX... In-Reply-To: <199903182250.PNR03432@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > I didn't see an external power supply in the picture! It's probably behind the palmtop... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:53:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Minix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the palmtop? I have been for a couple of days and it's actually quite amazing to have an operating system like this running on my 200LX. Now I just need to figure out something useful to do with it . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:55:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Backlit LX... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written: > It's probably behind the palmtop... Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it inot the case of the LX! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:08:20 -0700 Reply-To: Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: Re: Another Icon Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE89E7.F8286480" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE89E7.F8286480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's my crack at it ;-) Yeah, I know. I just happen to have nothing better to do right now ;-) -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Johns To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 9:40 PM Subject: Another Icon >Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a >telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist >and what I came up with was quite strange looking . > >73 Jeff > ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE89E7.F8286480 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Key.icn" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Key.icn" AQABACwAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD/wAP/wADAwCMAwABhgBGBgAAzAAjDAAAeH/xmAAA MAAg8AAAMABAYAAAMACAYAAAMAgAYAAAMBAAYAAAMCAAYAAAMH/wYAAAMCAAYAAAABAAAAAAAAgA AAAAAAAAAAAwAYAB/gA//4AB/gA//4AAMAA//4AAMAA/////8AA/////8AA//4AAAAA//4AAEAA/ ////8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BE89E7.F8286480-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 22:11:13 -0700 Reply-To: Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: Re: Another Icon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, didn't mean to send my icon to the list. Sorry... -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Shephard To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Another Icon >Here's my crack at it ;-) > >Yeah, I know. I just happen to have nothing better to do right now ;-) > >-Tim >tim.shephard@bigfoot.com >tims.phone@bigfoot.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Johns >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Date: Sunday, April 18, 1999 9:40 PM >Subject: Another Icon > > >>Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a >>telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist >>and what I came up with was quite strange looking . >> >>73 Jeff >> > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:34:36 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit LX... David Sargeant writes: > On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote: > > > I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link that shows a > > backlit 200LX! Cool! Wonder how they did that!? > > http://www.concentric.net/~Azusa/200lx.htm > > Probably with an electroluminescent panel. The only trouble with that is How do the electroluminescent panels work? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 00:43:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mikeg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mikeg Subject: Re: Backlit LX... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just sent a message to the web site owner to ask about the power and told him where to find this list. I'll let y'all know if I get a reply. -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨ Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 11:56 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Backlit LX... On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written: > It's probably behind the palmtop... Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it inot the case of the LX! 73 Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:54:29 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Minix Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, > I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the = palmtop? I > have been for a couple of days and it's actually quite amazing to have = an > operating system like this running on my 200LX. Now I just need to = figure > out something useful to do with it . Same with me. Does the ACCTON network work? How do I have to initiate it? Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:16:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Minix In-Reply-To: <199904190554.BAA18656@hil-img-10.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Guenther Helmuth E. wrote: > Same with me. Does the ACCTON network work? How do I have to initiate > it? Mack's working on that. I've contacted the author of the Accton network drivers and am awaiting his response, as obviously source code for that would help the Minix networking effort tremendously. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 01:20:13 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Minix > > I'm curious how many people are playing around with Minix on the palmtop? I I'm curious about that too. How is it working out? Can the LX multitask? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:30:28 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: SC problems Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Hal, > Great. I don't think you lose much memory with CICFAKE, unless someone > has ideas, I wouldn't worry about it. OK, it isn't much memory, but although it would be nice if I could load it in only one or two sessions... we'll see. > Is 123 in a 2nd system manager session? My guess is that has to do with > an old bug, fixed for session one. If I am right, for the work-around > try pressing F1 help and ESC and move the cursor. Or go to MORE and then > back. Thanks, I'll try. > > For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our > (Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the Ý...¨ > product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are > supported. Who has got the source code? Version 7 is new, AFAIK, so Sunshine was probably out of business, when v7 was made. Who made it instead? > > I believe you purchased it from Tom Rundel who buys SC from us. Right. It was easier for all of us, I think. Less shipping costs, less money order costs, less shipping time... But I appreciate it to anyhow get _your_ support! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:36:09 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Minix Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Mack's working on that. I've contacted the author of the Accton = network > drivers and am awaiting his response, as obviously source code for that > would help the Minix networking effort tremendously. Looking forward to it. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:41:12 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Attention! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, if anyone sent a mail to me (or a mail to the list which I should read) within the last few days, please send it once more, because I didn't get any email since about 3 days, I think because of a mail server failure of my ISP. Now all seems to be OK again. Thanks daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:10:22 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Printing in HV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Musielewicz wrote: > Does HV print documents? I looked in the help but didn't see > anything. Will a print screen print the whole document? Print screen will print the screen and not the whole documents. HV just formats the document for the screen and not for a printer, so there is no "print" command. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 05:27:43 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: freeze up problems Good morning everyone Have I said how much I love my DOS LX? Anyway, occassionally (about once a month) when the meesages pop up on the upper left corner of the screen like low battery, or battery charging started my LX will freeze solid and needs a hard reset. It only happens on my T2T upraded LX. My stock LX is fine. Is it something to worry about? Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:33:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jon hind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: jon hind Subject: Grandview & Windows 98 In-Reply-To: <199904082127.WAA04356@nickel.cix.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject says it all - does this work ? Jon Hind ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:40:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: PWRMENU & LXMAP Comments: cc: hpstaber@csi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The PWRMENU.INI holds the whole DOS command including the path > of LXMAP. If I call PWRMENU from within the directory where I > save the maps - then it works. If I call it from outside - > then no action. > > Is there anything obvious which I missed. Yes, you also have to use the full path with the .IDX file, not only with the LXMAP.COM file. The reason is that LXMAP does not support paths. Until now I didn't find a simple solution to implement path support into my assembler programs. AFAIK there is no DOS function allowing to only handle over a filename and let the function search the path in order to find the file. On higher level languages, such functions exist, but not on the DOS function level. Any suggestions appreciated. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:57:03 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Backlit LX... In-Reply-To: <199904190456.XAA30353x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <199904190456.XAA30353x@scott.net>, Jeff Johns writes >On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written: > >> It's probably behind the palmtop... > >Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it inot >the case of the LX! > No, come on you guys - think! There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the display's output. -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:31:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: A Turbo Pascal programming tool pack to donate. Hello all, Anyone still developing in Turbo Pascal? (BTW: fluff: the control software for the radar of the swedish light fighter plane JAS-39 Gripen was written in Turbo Pascal! I checked if that was a typo and no, not ADA, not ASM but good ol' Borland Turbo Pascal. I'm glad our govt. postponed the combat a/c buy for a few years!) Back on topic: I have a still shrinkwrapped copy of Nostradamus Turbo Plus for Turbo Pascal 5.0 and 5.5 (supports OOP features) It is a pack of programming tools for Turbo Pascal from 1988. I will donate it, if one can make use of it for XT betterment: Screen, kbd, cursor, dynamic menus, universal menus, system resources, integer/real/floating-point/sci.notation I/O fields, I/O field intervention, file handling, normal and critical error handling, diagnostics, sounds, mouse, strings, timer, special effects, printers, PCX and PCC graphic files, grouped file libs, general/elementary/standard/pre-allocated windows, windows modi- fication, directory windows, windows pushing/popping, graphics windows, user color installation, instant displays, curtain displays, venetian blind display, exploding displays, compress and uncompress, automatic mono/color change Includes: set of unit libraries (see above) screen painter source code generator prototyper sample programs pop-up help system (installs into Borland IDE help) 300 page manual with index Source code generator: Turbo Genie, organizes screens/windows and generates actual source code for entire Turbo Pascal unit. Prototyper: For viewing and design of an application, as the screens, windows, menus and I/O fields are created. Sample programs: Over 20 features and capabilities demo prgs. Screen Painter: Turbo Plus can display, push/pop and otherwise process all screens, menus, windows created with Screen Genie, in mono/color at CGA, EGA, VGA 25/43/50 lines text modes. Also bitmapped graphics can be processed in CGA/EGA/VGA modes, even though Screen Genie is a text based screen painter. -End- Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:53:17 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: pushkeys Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Keefe wrote: > > >>what's pushkeys (available only on US Palmtops?) > Here's the "User's Digest" version of the Pushkeys article from a 1994 > issue of PTP by yours truly. Now that I am interested, my palmtop does not contain pushkeys (I've searched the D drive) Could pushkeys be used on non-US palmtops? If yes, where can we get it? Regards, Paulo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:59:49 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX (Fluff) Forget cold fusion and solar cells. Get an old pacemaker and take out the nuclear battery. Should be good for a few years of use. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:20:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Seriously... If Thaddeus or T2T could find out how they did that, and assuming that it's practical (no pacemakers attached to it ), that would be an excellent upgrade option! Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:19:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Manhattan map Morning Ed: How do you do that? Can you do it sideways? It'll fit on the screen better without wasting screen space. If you can get 96th street to the Battery in one shot, it'd be great. How about a block map? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:17:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: pushkeys MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pushkeys is a hidden file in the D:\bin directory on US Palmtops only. There is no documentation for the program and it is known to have some glitches. Someone might be willing to send you the program file privately= . .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:28:38 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: pushkeys Hello Paulo I'm sorry I deleted your mail by accident and lost your email address. If you want me to send you pushkeys.com send me you email address. I'm sure pushkeys will work on non-english palmtops. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:34:03 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX (Fluff) John Musielewicz writes: > Forget cold fusion and solar cells. Get an old pacemaker and > take out the nuclear battery. Should be good for a few years > of use. In fact, get a bunch of old fire alarms and take out the (thorium?) and MAKE a battery good for about 10 years. A lead lined 200LX anyone? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:17:35 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: pushkeys Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello John, Thanks for the offer, but as Ed Keefe just pointed out, pushkeys is a hidden file in D:\bin - I've found it! My LX was bought in Portugal, and I do not know if it is a US model or not. Regards, Paulo John Musielewicz wrote: > > Hello Paulo > > I'm sorry I deleted your mail by accident and lost your email address. > If you want me to send > you pushkeys.com send me you email address. I'm sure pushkeys will work > on non-english palmtops. > > John > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:58:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Database Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain No problem, just edit the "restaurant" DB by removing, renaming, and etc. Then save it using the name of your choice. Phil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: Internet Acess in Israel Comments: To: Leslie Cohn In-Reply-To: <01be89b2$f3d418a0$b4461ecc@les-computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:48 AM 4/18/99 -0500, you wrote: >Further to Andrew Zack's question regarding internet access in France, I am >wondering about internet access in ISRAEL. If anyone knows, please comment. > Les: I was in Israel a couple of years ago. I used my HP100LX, WWW/lx , Post/LX and Compuserve to retreive email from my Chicago area ISP mail account. Compuserve has an affiliate called Israkav which actually handles the traffic. You can get access numbers off of the Compuserve website. There are several to handle parts of the country. If you use WWW/lx, there is a script on the D&A site to handle Israkav, as it is a little diferent than Compuserve in the US. It worked like a dream, and made our trip a lot easier as we could stay in touch with our housesitter, ad get instant travel tips from friends in the US. I would suggest that whichever ISP you try, that you experiment by dialing into that services' overseas nodes from the comfort of your home. That way, you can work out any bugs before you leave. Also, if you are not flying directly to Israel, but are transferring in places like Frankfort, Paris, London, etc, get access numbers for those places as well. We were stuck on Frankfurt for 12 hours because of a strike at Ben-Gurion ariport, and would love to have been able to email people about that, but didn't have local access numbers. Many hotels can handle US phone jacks, but occasionaly you may have to get an adaptor for the Israeli ones. I picked one up at a store in Jerusalem for about $4. If there isn't a jack in the room, ask if there is a business center that you can use. I did that in Tel Aviv. Our Jerusalem room had extra phone jacks in the wall, and one marked Fax. With some experimentation, and the adaptor, I discovered that was the one to use. If you have any other questions, post or email me directly. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: SC problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the authors, and their fee is VERY expensive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:22:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: HV ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1 day 06h41m22s ago ... On Sun, 18 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > Tables are often "abused" to do graphical layouting of the pages. There > is simply no chance to satisfyingly support that on the palmtop due to = lack > of memory and the small screen size. > > And even if that would not be the case, HV is simply not extendable > anymore... Well, such is life! Still a fantastic package as it stands now. Thanks! *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:41:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Davis Chapel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Davis Chapel Subject: POST/LX and PGP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Delurking here. I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP (version 2.6.3i). I have PGP working fine with messages I transfer from my desktop to the palmtop. I use maxdos to give PGP plenty of memory in Post. I have set up PGP according to the web page at D&A, using the calls to PGP from Post/PE. All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 MessageID: xbWAExYjkihqEaevcH5gwS2kZy/gz6TB hQBsAw4mi58lyGT5AQMAuZD9snCe5xWhQN9xLG8Jz9LeOWXHqQvQfF8b7Lwozy93 Zo6A33ODg+ps218hrctro4G42QCe4rKR/1sfcnMz3kHhujOFfEiFvdswHHWUkAMD L94yZjzFroVhIFTnUS8DhQBsA6tfbPxzlAV3AQMA4AtZw8bR/xne6sGzTPvxallw ... And the end looks like: SA7Cy4Vij3a+beFuBesNY75h2xEYe0Rl2SsW7kMFQQ75EidqULrbs/V5jcsf4+VN RnFyMb/6E7iyftlHCUdCJjo= =KfEU -----END PGP MESSAGE----- Where there should be hard returns separating the various header/footer/armor codes. This stops PGP dead in its tracks with the message that the ASCII armor is corrupted. Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this? Is there some CFG setting that can fix it? Thanks and regards davis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:46:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP Comments: To: Davis Chapel In-Reply-To: <199904191543.IAA29796@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Davis Chapel wrote: > Delurking here. I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP > (version 2.6.3i). I have PGP working fine with messages I transfer from my > desktop to the palmtop. I use maxdos to give PGP plenty of memory in Post. > I have set up PGP according to the web page at D&A, using the calls to PGP > from Post/PE. > > All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to > wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like: > > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 MessageID: Ýsnip¨ > Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this? Is there some CFG setting that can > fix it? You need to turn auto-formatting off. Alt-F will take care of this... then it'll work right. PGP on the palmtop is SO cool. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:55:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904170908.CAA01939@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 02:08:50AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-17-09:08:50 A Meshar: > Well, after all the encouragements I get, I also had another idea which would > be easily implemented using Perl. However! I want the distributed program to > be an executable file, not a .PL that can be changed - that would create havoc > in my plan. That's a shame. > So I think it is a very relevant question: Is it possible to create > executables from Perl? On certain platforms, with certain versions of perl, yes: on some versions of Unix, with perl4, there was support for "undumping" a core (using hacks borrowed from late-'80s-vintage TeX or Emacs); for recent releases of perl 5 there's a compiler that can generate C. > Is it possible to do it on Palmtops with Perl4 or Perl5? Nope. perl4 can't do the trick under DOS, and perl5 doesn't run on the palmtop. > Also, if Perl is so good (and it strikes me like a very flexible language!) > then we should be able to use it in multiple environments on a server site, as > well as a palmtop. For security purposes it would be nice to have it in an > executable form on the server side. I'd dispute that claim; I argue that an executable in one format (8086 machine code wrapped in .com or .exe file clothes) offers no security over an executable in another format (perl source code ready to be compiled-and-run by a working perl interpreter). A few minor barriers, maybe; someone wanting to get past the obstruction of the .exe format might need to score themselves a good decompiler and familiarize themselves with a good debugger. But no more real security. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:57:42 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904172213.PAA08236@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Sat, Apr 17, 1999 at 03:13:39PM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-17-22:13:39 A Meshar: > > Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly > > doesn't create havoc... > > Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including > credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for > all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I > think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc. If you were planning on releasing a machine language executable that contained the password and protocols for accessing your database with your credit card info, I hope you will reconsider that plan. It is _Really_ not a good idea. > Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can > easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize > _other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't > do it. So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release it in executable; there's no useful difference in security. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:16:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Computer City - was: Re: HP and the handheld market MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:29:14 +0200 > From: John Musielewicz > Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > > Peter W. Borders writes: > > > Umm, I better go tell the computer reseller down the block who unloads > > > used 386, 486, pentiums by the pallet load. > > > > > > > > > John > > > > Make something cheap enough and someone will buy it but that hardly > > matters to retail outlets. I don't think this "reseller down the > > block" is a compusa or equally large chain store. > > Just had a Computer City close down. That's a pretty large chain. > Not saying they closed down because of used dealers but you never > know! > CompUSA bought them out - Tandy never *really* put an effort into them. I always preferred them to CompUSA though for stock and atmosphere (such as it was). Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:36:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Davis Chapel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Davis Chapel Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP Comments: To: Bill Childers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks, Bill. That did. Regards, davis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:40:16 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Backlit LX... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:57:03 +0100 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Randle From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Backlit LX... To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > In article <199904190456.XAA30353x@scott.net>, Jeff Johns > writes > >On 04-18 11:55pm CDT, the following was written: > > > >> It's probably behind the palmtop... > > > >Or.... somebody developed a minature cold fusion reactor and stuffed it > >inot the case of the LX! > > > No, come on you guys - think! > There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the > display's output. -- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) > A HA HA HA HA HA HA. A HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:31:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Fluff: Backlit LX... Comments: To: Chris Randle In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I love it! The second law of thermodynamics bites the dust again! BTW, one of my thermo professors stated the second law as follows: "You can't shove dung up a cow's rear and get hay out its mouth." At 11:57 AM 4/19/99 +0100, Chris Randle wrote: >No, come on you guys - think! >There's a solar panel on the keyboard, and it gets its power from the >display's output. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:44:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: Internet Acess in Israel In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990419091116.009181e0@popmail.mcs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Alan Peres wrote: > I would suggest that whichever ISP you try, that you experiment by dialing > into that services' overseas nodes from the comfort of your home. That way, > you can work out any bugs before you leave. This is an excellent precaution for *any* planned remote access during travel. I myself learned this the hard way. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:16:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michael Kopplin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Kopplin Subject: The First Palmtop Webserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's not the smallest Webserver in the world. It's not the fastest by any means. But it is I believe The World's First Palmtop Webserver! Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX. Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/ Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem to work with most versions of IE past 3.0. Mike Kopplin kopplin@primenet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:31:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: The First Palmtop Webserver In-Reply-To: from Michael Kopplin at "Apr 19, 99 11:16:30 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bummer, you've beat LXVWS out of the starting gate... Curious how the two will compare servicing multiple connections. I'll bet JNOS doesn't handle virtual domains! > It's not the smallest Webserver in the world. > It's not the fastest by any means. > But it is I believe > > The World's First Palmtop Webserver! > > > Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX. > > Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/ > > > Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem > to work with most versions of IE past 3.0. > > > Mike Kopplin > kopplin@primenet.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:39:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: The First Palmtop Webserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I was able to access it with IE 5.0. The page came up very fast! Neat! > Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem > to work with most versions of IE past 3.0. > > > Mike Kopplin > kopplin@primenet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:04:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Lapp Subject: Alarm Sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 17 April Anand Rao wrote: I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful among the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and many thanks. In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that would otherwise drag on. I have been looking for alarm sounds to use in place of the built in ones. I am especially looking for reveille. I recall seeing it on a site some time ago but can't seem to locate again. Does anyone have know where I can locate? Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:09:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Lapp Subject: LX -> NT backup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 16 April Philippe Lewis wrote: Someone replied to me a little while ago when I asked the same question. They mentioned that a program called Transfile can do basic file transfer... I downloaded Transfile recently (couple of months ago) from the HP web site. It is very easy to use and I have not had any problem transferring data to the 200LX. If you are unable to locate let me know and perhaps I can send it to you directly. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:26:13 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > Using an out-of-the-box WinCE gadget, you cannot even exchange a file > with a (non-Windows) computer. You cannot even install any software, > you cannot even enter an Umlaut, you cannot read a WinWord or Excel > document. All in all: with a WinCE gadget with out a desktop, you can > do less than you could do with a $50 Casio organiser 8 years ago. > A couple of corrections to the above since it is a little onesided. First, for can exchange files with non-windows machines since there are irda drivers for linux. Second, you can download and install software without a windows host, this is determined by the software author not the OS. Also, I would hardly say that you can do less than you could with a casio from 8 years ago. Or are you saying that all those things listed could be done on an 8 year old casio WITHOUT a desktop machine? I have never understood the need to run down another system to make your favorite system look good. Don't people think that the hp200lx can stand on its own, without having to go out of the way to run down anything else that might compete with it? The same thing seems to go on in all walks of life, my car is good so your car has to be a POS. My school is better than yours because yours is garbage. I don't mean to single out anyone in particular, I just find it curious. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:51:50 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France Comments: To: Andrew Zarick In-Reply-To: <0FAD00O13ZRPZN@PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:21:28 +0000 Andrew Zarick =e9crivait: > I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use > my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does > anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in > France. No "regular" ISPs. Only Compuserve (sure) and AOL (if it is yet the same architecture type than Compuserve, allowing worldwide account checking...) > Also, what type of adaptor do I need to plug my modem > into a French phone jack? You need a specific Adaptator. Availlable in France everywere Ýsupermarkets..¨. Some of them using RJ11 terminated cables. A+ Jacques. ------------------------------ Le dernier administrateur du web "altern"atif se trouvait chez lui.. On frappa =e0 la porte... ------------ Une histoire de Fredric Brown revue par Estelle Hallyday. ---------------------------- La r=e9sistance est sur http://altern.org/defe= nse ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:51:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Alarm Sound Comments: To: "INTERNET:Joe_Lapp/RDL/RYDERSYSTEMINC/US%RYDERSYSTEMINC@RYDER.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think this plays Reveille K1 T235 V1 O3 L4 CF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CF L2 A L4 F L4 CF= L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CAF L8 AF L4 CC L2 F. L4 = AAAAA O4 L2 C O3 L4 A FAFAF L2 A L4 F AAAAA O4 L2 C O3 L4 A L8 FA L4 O4 C= O3 CCC L2 F .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France In-Reply-To: <371B9766384.87BCLISTES2@mail.iway.fr> from Jacques Belin at "Apr 19, 99 10:51:50 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just looked, Earthlink has a number in France. International billing is $0.15/minute. Don't know how this compares to the rest. Might check with Netcom, I believe my friend in England uses a U.K. Netcom account and gets to use the U.S. dialups at no extra charge when he's over here. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:13:07 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Backlit LX... Comments: To: Steve Dowell >I was browsing around on the net and ran across this link >that shows a backlit 200LX! Cool! Wonder how they did >that!? Is he a member of the list? Maybe we should invite him? :-) He is in Texas, any local palmtoppers near him? Good excuse for a visit! Have a nice day! Franklin Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:50:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Backlit LX... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've written to him and told him how to join the list. I imagine he's gotten several invites from other people on the list as well . I asked him to jump right in and introduce himself after he gets subscribed! Steve -----Original Message----- From: Franklin Eekhout ÝSMTP:franklin@online.no¨ Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 4:13 PM To: HPLX Mailing List; Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Backlit LX... Is he a member of the list? Maybe we should invite him? :-) He is in Texas, any local palmtoppers near him? Good excuse for a visit! Have a nice day! Franklin Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 04:17:34 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: LX servers (was Re: POST/LX ideas) Comments: To: John Musielewicz On Fri, 16 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > A mail server for the 200LX would be fun of course (but useful?). It already exists (smtpserv.zip for WatTCP). Someone will find a good use for it :-) John Musielewicz writes: > Steven Lawson writes: > > For that matter, the 'Velcroed Web Server' is getting *very* close to > > being real... Stay tuned.. :-) > > What is the "Velcroed Web Server"? I remember a few months agao you > said you were working on something for the 200LX. Is this it? Yep. Steven & I are just putting the final touches on it now (it will be part of the LXTCP package). It served it's first page from my palmtop to my desktop last Thursday. Anyone who has a spare palmtop and ethernet card connected to the internet can apply now to be an alpha tester (just send me an email). We'll post the server URLs for everyone to access once the servers are running. I've rewritten the concurrent TCP/IP access routines for the web server, so it should be much more stable than the FTP server was when confronted with an internet full of clients. There is now a LXINETD base platform upon which other servers can be built. The web server and simple "discard" and "echo" service servers are the first. I hope to add a rewrite of the FTP server, and then finger, SMTP, etc. You'll be able to recompile and select a subset of the available servers to rebuild a smaller executable and leave more room more more concurrent connections. The API will be open, so others can contribute servers. Long term, we hope that it can be a TSR, so you can still surf in the foreground while serving pages in the background. We encourage other TCP/IP developers to join the development team (especially those with TSR and EMS experience). -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:09:31 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: LXTCP Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net John Musielewicz writes: > > copy c:\nws\spool\hplx.jn c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn > > lxnntp nntp.server=news.hplx.net nntp.username=rwhitby nntp.password=password > > copy c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn c:\nws\spool\hplx.jn > > copy c:\nws\spool\mot.jn c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn > > lxnntp nntp.proxy= nntp.server=news.mot.com nntp.username= > > copy c:\nws\spool\incoming.jn c:\nws\spool\mot.jn > > Thanks Rod, > > Got it. Note that the next LXTCP beta (due any day now) will have a newsrc= parameter to do all this without needing the copying. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:40:00 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use > my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does > anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in > France. Check out IBM.NET. IBM really is an International company and can be found in many countries. I don't know for sure it does offer ISP connections in France but I'd be surprised if it didn't. You can ask in the newsgroup ibmnet.general to be sure. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:18:39 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: The First Palmtop Webserver Michael Kopplin writes: > It's not the smallest Webserver in the world. Actually it is. The board in the 200LX is smaller than any out there. > It's not the fastest by any means. > But it is I believe > > The World's First Palmtop Webserver! > > > Yes, a real webserver, running on the HP 200LX. > > Give it a try, http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/ Is the software availible? Its really cool, Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:28:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , currie1234@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: Fwd by AJKind: Hello MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- From- CURRIE1234@aol.com Date- Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:50:11 EDT Subject- Hello I would like to introduce myself as a new subscriber.My computers (presently),are a hp 620 lx,Vadem Clio,Nec laptop,and a Gateway Handbook Sub-Notebook.I may also be tempted into getting a HP xx(x) lx,where the = x's mean DOS.My computer background goes back some 25 yrs,with a 24 yr = absence from them.Needless to say,there have been a couple of small changes in = the field in the interim,and I am trying to catch up. Neill(best reached = at neill@keyway.net) --- end of forwarded message --- *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:12:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Cut and Paste (Was: SC problems) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Has anyone found a program that would let you easily cut and paste (C&P) between Software Carousel (SC) sessions like the earlier non-palmtop SC versions? If so, what is its name and where can it be obtained? URL? If not, perhaps the SC authors could modify the earlier C&P code to give us that capability? The C&P program could either be included with SC or sold as an optional add-on. ======================================= At 09:23 AM 4/19/99 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote: >The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still >have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it >for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the >authors, and their fee is VERY expensive. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:01:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Talladega Super Speedway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Let me first state that I am NOT a fan of NASCAR racing, but I am forced to attend the Talladega races two times each year and have done so for the past ten years in an official capacity as a Deputy Sheriff. If any of you are planning on attending the race this weekend (there's usually around 200,000 that attend) let me know and I'll try to look you up before the race :) 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:07:08 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anand Rao Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anand Rao Subject: Re: Alarm Sound In-Reply-To: <85256758.006D60EC.00@ecmta02.ecld.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How about this - It's a Small World After All .... k1to4l32e l32f l16g o5l16e l16c l32d l32c l16c o4l16b l16b l32d l32e l16f o5l16d o4l16b o5l32c o4l32b l16a l16g l16g l32e l32f l16g o5l32c l32d l16e l32d l32c o4l16a o5l32d l32e l16f l32e l32d o4l16g o5l16f l16e l16d l12c Enjoy! At 04:04 PM 19-04-1999 Monday -0400, you wrote: >On 17 April Anand Rao wrote: > > I have found this program the most aesthetically pleasing and useful among > the various clock programs for the 200LX. Excellent software, Jorgen, and > many thanks. > > In addition to the daily alarm I also use it to 'time out' meetings that > would otherwise drag on. > > >I have been looking for alarm sounds to use in place of the built in ones. > I >am especially looking for reveille. I recall seeing it on a site some time >ago but can't seem to locate again. Does anyone have know where I can >locate? > >Joe > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:21:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Alarm Sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-19 11:07pm CDT, the following was written: > How about this - It's a Small World After All .... Hey Mitch..... how about a section on S.U.P.E.R. for alarm tunes? There isn't already a section for that is there? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Internet Acess in Israel Comments: To: Leslie Cohn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Leslie, > Actually I was MOST interested in E-MAIL rather than the web. > > >just to get into the internet, not for any > >other purpose... I meant that. I meant use CIS' gateway to the internet so you can access your email at whatever local ISP you have here... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:52:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Sorry for the bandwidth ATTN: Wally Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry for the bandwidth, but Wally could you please send me the icon you sent me this morning again. Thanks! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stephan, > That's not correct: On a Unix machine only the server should have read > rights on the Perl script, > because the .pl or .cgi extention is associated with perl. You cannot open > such a perl script > with an editor from outside, unless you have access with telnet to this > directory. So you should > not give read rights for the directory. I think you mean exec rights only. Read rights mean that that I can read the scripts into my machine... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Perl versions Comments: To: rwhitby@hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Having written a 27000 line EDA program in Perl, I'll take a shot :-) I'd say you know one or two things about Perl :) ... > Perl 5.005 is the latest production version. There is no 16 bit port > of perl 4 that I know of. Perl 5 added object oriented features (which You mean a 16-bit perl 5 port? > Nobody admits to using Perl 4 any more :-) Oops! :) > Perl can do anything :-) Yes, I met her... :) > There is an archive of perl modules called > CPAN (Comprehensive Perl Archive Network) which has a module for just > about everything (including one for working with HP200 GDB files). Excellent. > Perl is the best thing since sliced bread. Don't let anyone tell you > different. Pity it's a bit to resource hungry to do major things on > the palmtop. I would like to know how you REALLY feel about Perl. You have been somewhat indecisive sounding :) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 21:43:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bennett - > 1999-04-17-22:13:39 A Meshar: > > > Why not just release the source? everyone else does that and it certainly > > > doesn't create havoc... > > > > Let's see: On the Webserver I have a database with all orders, including > > credit cards, especially one from Laust :) ... I release the Perl script for > > all to see exactly how to reach the database, passwords and all... Nah! I > > think not a good idea, and I think it _will_ create havoc. > > If you were planning on releasing a machine language executable that contained > the password and protocols for accessing your database with your credit card > info, I hope you will reconsider that plan. It is _Really_ not a good idea. I have no such plans, not to worry. I am only suggesting that releasing source is really not a good idea. I would never include passwords in programs - that is well, at least dumb... But various methodology would be tough to discern from an executable vs. open source. > > Another issue: The app I have in mind is to be distributed to people who can > > easily hack their way into things if the know the doors. When I jeopardize > > _other people's_ property by doing this, I think it creates havoc, and I won't > > do it. > > So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release > it in executable; there's no useful difference in security. Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted? How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl? Or do they use Perl? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 01:36:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GJColeman@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Coleman Subject: Our Pal Al MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whatever happened to Al? I am missing his poetic posts. -Geo.- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 00:31:18 EDT Reply-To: CURRIE1234@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neill Currie Subject: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win CE,I guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking forward to the cut and thrust. Neill. P.S. Do you know of anyone who would sell me a HP 200 LX ? The acquisition of one of those might help to deflect some of the comments !?!? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:58:40 +0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Ernst, Yehuda" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Ernst, Yehuda" Subject: Re: Hebrew on the HP Comments: To: "sponsor@FTEL.NET" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain will it work on all 200lx or I need to put Hebrew chip inside? > -----Original Message----- > From: A Meshar ÝSMTP:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ > Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 8:39 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Hebrew on the HP > > Alan, > > On 100LX you should have same Keybez program as 200LX. > > Run Keybez He > > Then press CTRL and machine toggles to Hebrew. Also files > are saved with cookie dates etc... :) ... > > I use Qtext2 in a SC WA. Works nicely... But I have to > learn the kbd somehow... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:20:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Peter W. Borders wrote: > Also, I would hardly say that you can do less than > you could with a casio from 8 years ago. Or are you saying that all > those things listed could be done on an 8 year old casio WITHOUT a > desktop machine? Yes, but of course in a less flashy way. But frankly, I prefer being able to enter umlauts to nice flashy icons. I seriously was able to use the cheap Casio out of the box while I considered the WinCE gadget a poor joke due to the lack of functionality. I also must admit that my comparison was for WinCE 1.0. I have not seen 2.0, but also I have hardly ever seen a MS product that was "improved" in an upgrade in many more ways than increasing its size, making it slower and more buggy (which might be a slight exaggeration :-) > I have never understood the need to run down another system to make > your favorite system look good. Neither me. I was answering the question why people consider WinCE gadgets desktop add-ons while the 200LX is considered a self-contained computer. If that looks bad for the WinCE items, it must be your interpretation. Thanks for your corrections BTW! At the time I had a look at the WinCE stuff, there was no IrDA driver for Linux, so it was not possible to exchange any data with any non-Windows system. Obviously, the *other side* has found a way to "talk" to the WinCE gadgets then. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:20:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Davis Chapel wrote: > Delurking here. I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use PGP ... > All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it seems to > wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like: ... > Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this? Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the message reformats the message. What if you write text like one two three in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:21:30 +0200 Reply-To: stelem@ibm.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Internet Acess in France MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Zarick wrote: > I'm am going to France the end of May and would like to use > my HP to keep in touch with my family while there. Does > anyone have a suggestion for a US based ISP with access numbers in > France. Check out http://www.ibm.net See under registration and access numbers: they have access numbers in all major cities. Roaming charges will apply if you register in the U.S.; OTOH US fees are so much lower. Just a satisfied customer Etienne stelem@ibm.0net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:11:12 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: My introductory email Comments: To: CURRIE1234@aol.com Neill Currie writes: > Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win CE,I > guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking forward I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE, is this true? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 03:17:27 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > > Neither me. I was answering the question why people consider WinCE gadgets > desktop add-ons while the 200LX is considered a self-contained computer. > If that looks bad for the WinCE items, it must be your interpretation. I've noticed that Pete gets a little edgey when people comment about CE or Windows. He sees criticism as a personal attack on all that is great and good, I guess. The old M$ paranoia. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:41:06 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: ReÝ2¨: Internet Acess in France Comments: To: Steven Lawson In-Reply-To: <19990419210644.3BDD09611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:06:44 -0700 Steven Lawson =e9crivait: > I just looked, Earthlink has a number in France. I can verify, but I think this number is not a national "local-like" number. Andrew don't tell us if he stays near Paris, or if he goes elsewere. Long distance national calls are billed $0.19. Remember that in France even local calls are charged by time ($0.05) :-( Jacques. ------------------------------ The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... ------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:41:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: ReÝ2¨: Internet Acess in France Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:14:59 GMT Mike Wagstaff =e9crivait: > If you want cheap(ish) Net access > while you're there (no POP3 email), try out France Explorer, > a free program from France Telecom. Not really free :-( There is no subscription fee, but you have to pay a very hight connection rate ($0.21/mn) Jacques. ------------------------------ The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... ------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:40:43 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: IrdA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some questions about the LX Infrared Port. 1 - How about IrdA compatibility? There is an IrdA driver on the super site, but it seems, that it is written especially for the redeye. Does it work with other IrdA-compatible stuff? 2 - If I have an IrdA-'receiver' like the redeye, can I use it to connect other parallel stuff like Zip drive etc.? 3 - Are there any experiences with the infrared port? TIA -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:25:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michael Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Hansen Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Davis Chapel wrote: > > Delurking here. I am trying to set up POST/LX (version 2.2a) to use = PGP > ... > > All works except that when Post downloads an encrypted message, it = seems to > > wrap the PGP messageID, so that the top looks like: > ... > > Can anyone tell me why Post/LX does this? > > Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which > can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves > messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the > message reformats the message. What if you write text like > > one > two > three > > in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line? > > Andreas Hej Andreas In my setup it's do. When I veiw the message: one two three it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE?? Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 05:28:58 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Smtpserv I tested this on the 200LX and it works. All it does is recieve mail though. Can it be expanded? An actual mail server on the 200LX. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:33:28 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce Francis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Francis Subject: Re: Alarm Sound Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904200423.XAA07873x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 23:21:42 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: >Hey Mitch..... how about a section on S.U.P.E.R. for alarm tunes? There >isn't already a section for that is there? Great idea! .... seconded! ==> Bruce ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:46:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP In-Reply-To: <199904201025.MAA20537@post.cybercity.dk> from "Michael Hansen" at Apr 20, 99 12:25:26 pm Content-Type: text > > Unless you mean the reformatting while *displaying* a message (which > > can be toggled using ALT-F), POST/LX is *not* doing that. It leaves > > messages as they are. So I would assume some server on the way of the > > message reformats the message. What if you write text like > > > > one > > two > > three > > > > in a message? Does it get reformatted to one single line? > it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE?? I thought I'd pipe up here with some experiences I've had in the past. Large chunks, or even entire messages, would be blank when viewed in Post, yet clearly visible in the external editor. I sent one or two examples to Avi at the time, but he didn't offer any explanation for this behaviour. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:53:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done reports and a lot of e-mail via Win CE. I will agree that there is a lot of room for improvement but I can say that for the HP200LX also. For various reasons I use both a HP200LX and a Jornada 820. Each has its place and does a very good job. I have used the Jornada while on travel to dial back to the office and via the Terminal Server (Citrix Meta Frame) performed network functions and checked my Outlook 97 e-mail and calendar functions. The long battery life (10 + hours) and lite weight (2.5 lbs.) makes it a great travel unit. I use the HP200LX for communicating via Cis and several other functions such as packet communications via radio and off-line e-mail. I have even used it to control a OptoCom scanner. Each operating system has its pros and cons. No one has yet developed a perfect system, but then again each person has their own idea on what is perfect for them. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨ > Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 21:11 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: My introductory email > > Neill Currie writes: > > Al,Thanks for forwarding it appropriately.As for the comment about Win > CE,I > > guess everyone has their own cross to bear in this life.I am looking > forward > > > I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get > about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE, > is this true? > > John > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:06:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <199904200443.VAA29156@ftel.net>; from A Meshar on Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:43:41PM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-20-04:43:41 A Meshar: > I am only suggesting that releasing source is really not a good idea. Could be, for the kind of work you do. I don't do that kind of work. Perl is not designed for that kind of work. If your work can't stand the light of day, you probably better look for something other than perl to do it in. > I would never include passwords in programs - that is well, at least dumb... That was your example, not mine. I agree, it's terribly, terribly dumb. > But various methodology would be tough to discern from an executable vs. > open source. I don't know quite what you mean by that. > > So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release > > it in executable; there's no useful difference in security. > > Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted? How do you mean "retrofitted"? Do you mean "reverse engineered", or perhaps "decompiled"? If so, the answer is yup, programs for doing that were an old hat when I was first starting with computers around 1980. > How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl? Sites do major critical work in perl all the time. They write the programs to do what they need, in a suitable language; often that language is perl (with modules added as needed to customize the language until it's a good fit for the problem domain). Then they release their programs, if that's what they want to do, or they don't, if they don't. It's really quite simple. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:55:59 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paal Rasmussen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paal Rasmussen Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux newsgroup) about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this message for example. I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) would have it mean something Reply. I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does those two letters mean to y'all?? Eagerly awaiting a re: Paul Rasmussen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:26:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-20 05:55am CDT, the following was written: > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? RE = Regarding? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:29:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Musielewicz wrote: ... > I've heard they make good paper weights. I've also heard you only get > about 1 1/2 to 2 hours of continueous battery life with the color CE, > is this true? I got more than a year of continuous use with a pair of alkaline batteries, but this is for the 300LX, which is not colour. And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:29:38 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michael Hansen wrote: ... > When I veiw the message: > > one > two > three > > it's shown as one single line in Post/LX, but not in PE?? Press ALT-F and it will not be reformatted for *display*. When you do "Save As" from the message display, it will be stored as displayed, i.e. reformatted if reformatting is enabled. In the editor, the messages does not get reformatted. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:35:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <199904201327.IAA06271x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" reference? At 08:26 AM 4/20/99 -0500, you wrote: >On 04-20 05:55am CDT, the following was written: > >> I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does >> those two letters mean to y'all?? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:35:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen In-Reply-To: <199904201316.PAA11943@d1o203.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that regarding is still the most appropriate. The assumption that anything with re: in the subject is a reply may not be valid. I might be adding to the subject without replying to the message I was reading. My information will be "regarding" the subject at hand. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Paal Rasmussen > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:56 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) > > > I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway > (on a Linux > newsgroup) > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this > message for example. > I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) > and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) > would have it mean something Reply. > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? > > Eagerly awaiting a re: > Paul Rasmussen > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:39:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: PWRMENU & LXMAP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Stefan Peichl > The reason is that LXMAP does not support paths. Until now I > didn't find a simple solution to implement path support into > my assembler programs. AFAIK there is no DOS function allowing > to only handle over a filename and let the function search the > path in order to find the file. On higher level languages, such > functions exist, but not on the DOS function level. > Any suggestions appreciated. Hi, The DOS APPEND command is supposed to address that concern. If it is loaded, you can search in a specified directory for data files. I have not had too much luck with it though. The following shows how it is supposed to work. append c:\ ; put c:\ in the search path a: ; go to the A: drive type config.sys ; this types out c:\config.sys (if no a:config.sys?) Ralf Brown's interrupt list mentions when APPEND affects DOS calls. It also has discussion of specific APPEND related calls for INT 2F. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:48:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It "should" meaning "regarding." That is how it is used in normal business correspondence. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:51:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <199904201316.PAA11943@d1o203.telia.com> from "Paal Rasmussen" at Apr 20, 99 12:55:59 pm Content-Type: text > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? To me... they mean REGARDING -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:52:56 +0200 Reply-To: molitor@moli.franken.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Reinhard Mueller Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <199904201316.PAA11943@d1o203.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi, > I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) > and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) > would have it mean something Reply. I am sure it it means reply. using a latin "re" in a subject line would be redundant and hence not make sense. Reinhard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:50:09 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Dosamatic Has anyone tried dosamatic from the SUPER site? I can't seem to get the switching function (alt+f10) to work. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:38:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: My introductory email Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the > software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done Are you sure thats continous--without the unit ever shutting off? I was told by a user of the Jourda 420 he only gets 2 hours continous use. I told him I get about 15+ hours continous and he was AMAZED! Do they use AA or any other easily obtainable battery? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:51:42 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Reply ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:03:41 +0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Juha Husgafvel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juha Husgafvel Subject: ANN: Outlook 2 HPLX export utility (appointments) Content-Type: text Hello! My first try at Outlook to HPLX export can be found at: http://www.tuug.org/~hysky ol2lx.0-1.zip, under 130K. This is an early beta so please make backups!!! It should export Outlook Calendar and Task information to HP Appointment book format. You will probably need IE4 installed to use it, I'm not sure if this is mandatory for Outlook? Bug reports etc. to: hysky@tuug.org Bye, -- /hysky (hysky@tuug.org) j.h.husgafvel Have you tried McSquared, the pure-energy fast food? http://www.tuug.org/~hysky ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:08:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've always considered RE: to mean Regarding. Often you are not _Replying_ to a question in the message. Sometimes you are adding another question or comment _Regarding_ the subject. In practice, I don't even think about RE meaning Reply or Regarding. Whenever I see RE, I just know that it a continuation of a subject thread. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:12:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. normally I use it for 1 - 3 hours per day and re-charge once a week. Yes there is a replacement battery that is spec'ed to give 15 hours but have not yet seen a need to get it. This includes use of a network card or internal modem. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨ > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 02:38 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: My introductory email > > Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > > Not true in all cases. The newer units have very good battery life. the > > software is limited in several areas but it is functional. I have done > > Are you sure thats continous--without the unit ever shutting off? > I was told by a user of the Jourda 420 he only gets 2 hours continous > use. I told him I get about 15+ hours continous and he was AMAZED! Do > they use AA or any other easily obtainable battery? > > John > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:13:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Snake Icon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's my try at a Snake icon... begin 644 snake.icn M`0`!`"P`(`#_______"(0A"$(1", Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Fluff: Backlit LX... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > BTW, one of my thermo professors stated the second law as follows: > "You can't shove dung up a cow's rear and get hay out its mouth." My professor described the three Laws of Thermodynamics as: 1. You can't win. 2. You can't break even. 3. You can't get out of the game. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:27:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: International telephone and AC adapters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii FYI, there are comprehensive databases of the different telephone and AC adapter standards by country at: http://kropla.com/ Also included are TV stanndards, international dialing codes and a lot of other useful information. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:35:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: `Re:' (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one suprises me. The dictionary says that `in re' means `concerning'. I think it's used that way in the law, and I've always assumed that `Re:' (in any context) is a simple abbreviation for `In Re:' In this context, I suppose, other alternatives could have been adopted, but I assumed that early EMail/UseNet practice just adopted a common business convention. Paal Rasmussen wrote: > > I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux > newsgroup) > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this > message for example. > I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) > and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) > would have it mean something Reply. > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? > > Eagerly awaiting a re: > Paul Rasmussen > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:46:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: My introductory email In-Reply-To: <1600371565F5D2119ADA00A0C91EA95C03B92B@cnslsvr4.exchg.cnsl.spear.navy.mil> from "Souza, Mr Stephen" at Apr 20, 99 10:12:30 am Content-Type: text > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one > operation. I noted an earlier post today where one fellow claimed *one year* of use from a single pair of batteries - when functioning in it's best capacity: as a paperweight! -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:54:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Snake Icon In-Reply-To: <19990420101338.A1684@palmtop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote: > Here's my try at a Snake icon... > Are those 8 lines considered bad list etiquette? Oh well, I have a > small sig line. :) You know, I wonder how the constant 200-byte size of 200LX .icn files compares to the size of Windows icons. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:57:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: My introductory email In-Reply-To: <199904201329.PAA24706@if0010.swisslife.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > I got more than a year of continuous use with a pair of alkaline > batteries, but this is for the 300LX, which is not colour. And yes, my > 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-) You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one year per pair. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:12:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paal Rasmussen wrote: > I am currently engaged in a heated newsgroup argument in Norway (on a Linux > newsgroup) > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this > message for example. > I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) > and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) > would have it mean something Reply. > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? I am not an authority in that matter, but here is what I think it is: Re: means "Regarding" and is used in replies, i.e. if the original message was "foo", the reply to it - the reply regarding "foo" - is named "Re: foo". Most email clients automatically prepend "Re: " to a message subject when you are replying. Similarly, many clients prepend the subject with "Fwd: " when forwarding. So I believe it *means* "regarding" and is *used* for "replying to". Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:24:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Snake Icon Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nice job Mitch.. You've either got a talent for doing these or too much time on your hands . - Longden "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" on 04/20/99 07:13:38 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Snake Icon Here's my try at a Snake icon... begin 644 snake.icn ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:37:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply. The proof is in this test. Open an original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you. Input, send, and wait. Identify your input and observe the addition to the topic, placed there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do it also :). It must mean "Reply". I just think of it as "not the original post". Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Paal Rasmussen ÝSMTP:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨ > > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this > message for example. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:39:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Alarm Sound Ýfluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have heard this Small World "music"(?) It will make you barf. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Anand Rao ÝSMTP:slim1005@HK.SUPER.NET¨ > > How about this - It's a Small World After All .... > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:44:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: My introductory email In-Reply-To: <199904201329.GAA29898@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-) I used to use my 320LX as an alarm clock, before I sold it. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:51:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Windows Icons are bigger and uglier. :) An Icon related question... Is it possible to write a program ( me not programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons? I imagine that allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE palmtop }:) Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number of them left as useful. If the members of the list all had this program and a method for "assigning" a range of result Icons to each member was arranged, we could arrive at and compile a book, or database of every useful Icon available. Any one up to this? :) We could use IPEX and the palmtop database application, and SUPER as a repository. (that will probably get a snicker from someone... "you want to use up my HD space for what?!? :) I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨ > > You know, I wonder how the constant 200-byte size of 200LX .icn files > compares to the size of Windows icons. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:07:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. In-Reply-To: <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote: > Is it possible to write a program ( me not > programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons? I imagine > that allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the > permutations would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 > > I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :) Hmmm... if we have a million palmtop users (a ridiculous overestimate) doing 100,000 a year (which is nearly 2,000 a week, or maybe 275 a day), it will only take us... 789 years to get through all 78.9 trillion icons. Okay, I'm game! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:02:32 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. In-Reply-To: <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote: > Windows Icons are bigger and uglier. :) > > An Icon related question... > Is it possible to write a program ( me not > programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons? I imagine that > allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations > would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE > palmtop }:) Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number > of them left as useful. If the members of the list all had this program and > a method for "assigning" a range of result Icons to each member was > arranged, we could arrive at and compile a book, or database of every useful > Icon available. Any one up to this? :) How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect? Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of combinations would be: 2¬(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10¬423 A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:08:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Ouch, this is starting to sound like one of those "1,000 monkeys, 1,000 typewriters..." jokes. Perhaps a really good programmer could write a program to evaluate the "likeliness" of an Icon and present only the likely candidates for selection by a human judge. (ok, I'm going to get some coffee, I'll be ok in a minute. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨ > > Hmmm... if we have a million palmtop users (a ridiculous overestimate) > doing 100,000 a year (which is nearly 2,000 a week, or maybe 275 a day), > it will only take us... 789 years to get through all 78.9 trillion icons. > > Okay, I'm game! > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:18:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. In-Reply-To: <199904201608.LAA25695@sdds0.pagenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote: > Ouch, this is starting to sound like one of those "1,000 monkeys, > 1,000 typewriters..." jokes. Perhaps a really good programmer could > write a program to evaluate the "likeliness" of an Icon and present > only the likely candidates for selection by a human judge. (ok, I'm > going to get some coffee, I'll be ok in a minute. :) You sure you haven't already had too much coffee? Well, one thing we can be sure of. The 200LX will last for 789 years, no problem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:11:33 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: My introductory email Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one > operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. normally I Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820? Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:13:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Don't do that! Now we need a lot more users! You are right of course, I did the simple math without actually thinking about the real solution. When I got 78.9 trillion, I knew it was a hopeless idea. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad ÝSMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK¨ > > How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect? > Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of > combinations would be: > > 2¬(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10¬423 > > A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested. > > Cheers, > > Laust > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:29:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It is a Li-ion. 7.2 volt at 3.2AH. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨ > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:12 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: My introductory email > > Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one > > operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. > normally I > > Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820? > Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:32:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cut and Paste (Was: SC problems) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> The best (workable but clumsy) solution is CLIPVUE found on SUPER - www.palmtop.net. <> I have talked to the authors about cut and paste. Unfortunately, this would be a VERY expensive update. I think Avi may know more of the details, but the PC version does support cut and paste. However, the authors apparently had to remove this feature to gain other Palmtop functionality when they ported the application to the palmtop. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:45:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Fluff!: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Sargeant wrote: > You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one > year per pair. I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work in a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about the actual battery life :-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:54:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fluff!: Re: My introductory email In-Reply-To: <199904201645.SAA486424@mail.iprolink.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Andreas Garzotto wrote: > I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery > weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work > in a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about > the actual battery life :-) You're right. I was hasty. Please forgive me. I will go reinstall the backlight and touch-screen in my 320LX as penance. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:49:10 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. Were you able to use HP Calc? I kept getting an overflow. Phil Drummond writes: > Don't do that! Now we need a lot more users! You are right of course, I > did the simple math without actually thinking about the real solution. When > I got 78.9 trillion, I knew it was a hopeless idea. :) > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad ÝSMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK¨ > > > > How did you come up with that number and isn't "permutations" incorrect? > > Given that the icons are 44x32 in 2 colours, the total number of > > combinations would be: > > > > 2¬(32*44) = approx. 7,0832716*10¬423 > > > > A somewhat larger number than the one you suggested. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Laust > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:21:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry N Zimmerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry N Zimmerman Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) This is really putting the cart before the horse. Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered it either if you are following the anit-trust litigation). Microsoft didn't even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except under the most imaginative of revisionist history. Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair; in the matter of; concerning; regarding." Such usage is still common in virtually all legal correspondance of a formal nature and informally in normal correspondance as Re. Non-legal professions adopted it as well with the same intended meaning. The business usage, though perhaps not understood (programmers are kind of socially backward right;-)), was surely imported over to email correspondence just like Cc (carbon copy) and Bcc (blind carbon copy). Cc and Bcc, by the way, also pre-date Microsoft. So, when you see a letter with a subject line of "Re: the American President", the intent of the sender is likely a discussion "In the affair of the American President" rather than "A reply to the American President" though the message may be that too. Larry Zimmerman On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:37:22 -0500 Phil Drummond writes: >It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply. The proof is in this test. Open >an >original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you. Input, >send, >and wait. Identify your input and observe the addition to the topic, >placed >there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do it >also :). >It must mean "Reply". I just think of it as "not the original post". > >Phil ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:58:35 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: My introductory email Wow!! It uses approximately 320 mA per hour compared to the 200 which uses about 60. The color really uses power. Does it have a type III slot for a pcmcia harddrive? Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > It is a Li-ion. 7.2 volt at 3.2AH. > > > > Stephen Souza > System Administrator > COMNAVSURFLANT > *TEL: (757) 836-3204 > *DSN: 836-3204 > *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨ > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:12 > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > > Subject: Re: My introductory email > > > > Souza, Mr Stephen writes: > > > I can not say 10 hours continuous. I have gone for over 6 hours in one > > > operation. Then next day without re-charge gone another 4 hours. > > normally I > > > > Do you know the mAh and voltage rating of the battery you use in the 820? > > Also do you know what type--li-ion or nimh? > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:36:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: success with my personal project Hi All, Many have asked me to let everyone on this list know of my personal hot sync project's progress and it's results. I'm now reporting success with major part of my personal project. My plan was to set my HP200LX up as a fully functioning serially connected node on the unique proprietary network that I'm running in my home office. After accomplishing that, my plan was to use freeware util(s) in simple batch file to handle the hot syncing and make it launchable with a shortcut on one of my Windows 95 desktops. My goal was to hot sync the DOS directories of the DOS programs I'm using on the HP200LX with those same program directories on my main desktop computer. This method would sync whole data files, but would not sync all individual records within those data files if data files were changed on both the desktop computer and my HP200LX since the last hot sync. That limitation did not pose a problem for my purposes. I then planned to jury rig a Station 100 base shell and/or plugs so the Station 100 base shell would snuggly hold the standard power plug and serial plug for the HP200LX. Upon accomplishing that, I planned to use that base as a quick slide-in connection for network operations, hot syncing, palmtop backups and for using my HP200LX at home on A/C. I'm reporting success in setting up my HP200LX as a fully functioning node on my network and I've used the freeware "Synchronize Disks" (Update) DOS utility from SUPER for simple hot sync operations. I'll next include my palmtop drives and directories into my automated backup system so my HP200LX will be backed up to optical disk every early morn. Next I plan to start working on jury rigging the Station 100 base shell. I'll let you know how that part of my project works out. I hope this info will be helpful to some on this list. Info on the Station 100 base shell: I've purchased a Station 100 base shell for $14 including S/H and plan to whittle down the HP200LX serial plug casing so it will fit snuggly into the Station 100 base shell, as soon as I can get my hands on an extra cable in case I accidentally cut a wire while whittling the plug down. The standard power plug for the HP200LX already fits into that base shell with no modification at all. The Station 100 base shell (which is no longer in production) was originally made to use a short cable a HP200LX serial plug on one end and a standard serial plug receptacle on the other end, with a standard serial plug receptacle offered on the back of the base for an easy standard serial cable connection. I plan to whittle down the HP200LX serial plug on a standard HP200LX serial connection cable so it will fit into the base and run the other end of the cable directly out the back of the base for direct connection to a Desktop. The source for those old shells claims to have around 40 others in their back room gathering dust. Info on the unique network software that I'm using: The unique proprietary network software that I'm using is called Little Big Lan, which works at the DOS level and simply tricks Windows into thinking that network drives are local. Regular DOS commands work across the network and a site license costs $75. (Yep, you got that right... no per node license needed.). This network software works great with DOS, Win 3.X, Win 95 and Windows 98 nodes. it might even work in a DOS box on a Win NT machine, but I have no way to verify that. The only problem that I haven't been able to solve with this lan software is that since Windows had no knowledge that a network was even is running, upon installation of a network card, Windows 95 automatically recognizes it and insists upon installing it's own network drivers. The only solution I could think of was to unload those drivers so that the Windows device manager would report the network card as not operating correctly and leave it at that. Windows device manager currently reports that my network cards have a problem, but my network works just fine, thank you very much. ;-) If I were to let Windows 95 load it's own internet networking drivers, they would kill my network, so I'm using the Windows 3.11 version of my internet access software as a work-around. If anyone would like to know more about this network software that will run on a HP200LX, just let me know and I'll post were to find the website that offers LBL network software information. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:19:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. In-Reply-To: <199904201551.KAA11150@sdds0.pagenet.com>; from Phil Drummond on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:51:55AM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I see where you're going with this, but I do think it is the 1,000 monkeys thing as stated already. But, I have for a long time wondered how we could do a great icon repository for the 200LX to reside on palmtop.net or other palmtop-friendly place. Preliminary specifications would be: 1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form 2) icons are categorized roughly along the same 24 SUPER categories 3) pages are built dynamically 4) dynamic pages consist of an icon array imagemap (sorry HV users) 5) array imagemap graphics can be downloaded for reference on the LX I would use a resource like this a lot as I hate going back and looking for icons to meet a certain purpose. I have not been able to think of an HV friendly way to do this. The original SUPER pages showed the icons of each app, but the image buffer of HV filled up immediately and it was slow as molasses. Andit was a hassle to have an icon for each app. :) I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap. Any thoughts on this (public or private) would be welcome. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:14:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: riley Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 19 Apr 1999 to 20 Apr 1999 - Special issue In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII *FS* megahertz 14,400 pocket modem $23 or trade for flash card. thanks mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: alarm in AppMgr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been posting this to HPHAND without any reply so I try it here now. I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my backups and everything is working well again except alarm in AppMgr. The try-out function in the AppMgr menu works. If I set an alarm it does not work however. Silence in AppMgr as well as Alt+Q in buddy are unchecked. SSC7 is supposed to turn the machine back to AppMgr if an alarm occurs - it does not work. Did I miss out on anything ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:02 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: pushkeys Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > Pushkeys is a hidden file in the D:\bin directory on US Palmtops only. Don't agree: It's also a hidden file in d:\bin on my German 4MB 200LX! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:06 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: HV question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, A friend of mine has the following problem: He has got a physics book in HTML format (one chapter = one HTML) and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book. The problem is, that he wants to store the book on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except that the HTMLs are zipped. He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of these shrink the files enough. He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted! My question: Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must unzip a html before loading it (if the html is called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted (replaced by the new unzipped file). GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:09 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Software Carousel question Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list and David, Software Carousel: > It will work with a swap file on the flash card, but much more slowly than > with a swap file on the RAM drive. If you set it up that way, and then > try to switch sessions with the flash card out, you'll basically crash > harder than an F-16 plowing into the side of Mount Everest. Is there a possibility to "lock" the hotkeys of SC while the flash card (where my SC swap file is stored) is removed or replaced by the PCMCIA modem and unlock them after reinserting it? And if there's a possibility for the hotkeys, is there also one for the blue app-keys which switch to WA1 (SysMgr)? GtX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:47:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Another Icon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 23:40:01 -0500 > From: Jeff Johns > Subject: Another Icon > > Can any of the icon artists on the list make me an icon that looks like a > telegraph key? I have tried to draw one, but I'm definately not an artist > and what I came up with was quite strange looking . > Some of the telegraph keys out there are quite strange looking . . . so what's the problem? Jon Jon Barrett Kensington, MD jonzann@altavista.net Prepared on the last great HP portable - Omnibook 800 (new products notwithstanding - bring back the Paw) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I think there is a driver for the alarm when using a double speed 200LX. Check your paperwork from the upgrade supplier. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Peter Staber ÝSMTP:hpstaber@CSI.COM¨ > > I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with > SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my > backups and everything is working well again except alarm in > AppMgr. > > HP Staber/Salzburg > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:11:57 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Fluff!: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andreas Garzotto wrote: > I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery > weight "Paper weight" I meant, of course. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:12:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: HV question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it It might be easier to start at a different place: The file could be named something like xxx.HTZ and the HTZ extension could be linked (using PNS200 or X-Finder or ...) to a BAT file that unzips the file, opens it in HV, then deletes the file. Untested, but it should work. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:11:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hans Peter Staber wrote: > I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with > SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my > backups and everything is working well again except alarm in > AppMgr. There is a hidden file named ALARM.Q (in _DAT). It may be corrupted. If you delete it, the problem may go away. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:01:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Re: HV question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't know about pkzip but if you use the compression program RAR (dos version) you can define a default program to read compressed files on the fly. I use List all the time for this. RAR works with .zip files, too. Terry > My question: > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? > > I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file > and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted > (replaced by the new unzipped file). > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:44:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <19990420.112144.16278.0.zimm4@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Gotta hurry and get this out--I suspect this flurry of activity is pushing us near the list limit! :) On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Larry N Zimmerman wrote: > Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair; in > the matter of; concerning; regarding." My Merriam Webster's 10th Collegiate supports this etymology, and gives the definition of "re" as "with regard to." The MW Collegiate 10th is a good-sized abridgement of their 3rd International--generally regarded as the authority on English language usage in the United States. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:58:42 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HV question Why not use something like file mavern and select HV as your editor. It will unzip the file so HV can read it. Daniel Hertrich writes: > Hi list, > > A friend of mine has the following problem: > > He has got a physics book in HTML format > (one chapter = one HTML) > and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book. > The problem is, that he wants to store the book > on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except > that the HTMLs are zipped. > He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of > these shrink the files enough. > He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted! > > My question: > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? > > I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file > and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted > (replaced by the new unzipped file). > > GTX > daniel > > ------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Hertrich > Germany > email: d.hertrich@gmx.de > ------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:57:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HV question In-Reply-To: <199904201737.RAA18609@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > My question: Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must unzip a > html before loading it (if the html is called by a link _or_ by input > of a file name)? I know X-Finder can unzip files on-demand and then open them up in the proper application. I'll let one of the resident X-Finder experts say whether or not this would work... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:38:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Another Icon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-20 12:47pm CDT, the following was written: > Some of the telegraph keys out there are quite strange looking . > . . so what's the problem? I have yet to see any key or paddle that didn't look absolutely beautiful to me . Long live CW! 72/73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:28:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel McDonough Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel McDonough Subject: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been a lurker here for just a short while, but I feel we have = bigger problems than WinCE. I hope someone from HP follows this list. First, WinCE is not that bad. I have a 360LX and I do use it for more = than just a paperweight. Mainly because of the backlight. I don't use it = more often because it is just a little too big to "thumb type" like I do = with my 200LX. Battery life hasn't been an issue for me. However, I am = disappointed in it because it doesn't have the old HP superiority. When I first played with an HP-35 calculator, I was blown away. It was = amazing. There wasn't anything like it for years. Then I got an HP-65. = It was light years ahead of the competition. Same thing for my HP-41C. = No one ever matched the number and variety of the hardware add-ons you = could get. When I got my HP-95, I scoffed at the poor saps who had to = make the 1000yd dash through the airport with a 15lb computer that = wasn't any more powerful than what I carried in my pocket. I upgraded to = the HP-200LX when the paint started to wear off the keys on my '95. (All = my HP calculators had injection molded keys, the symbols would never = wear off.) Then I got the HP-360LX. The latest and greatest product in the palmtop = computer line. It has a backlight! Wonderful! But wait... Where is the Calculator? Where is the Database? Where are the tools so that I can write programs on this thing? What happened to Hewlett-Packard? The 360 doesn't have any superior = technology when compared to the WinCE competition. Better materials and = construction, maybe, but no *new* technology. So here I am, using two palmtop computers from the same company because = each one has features that I use. Will HP ever produce a product that = will be a true upgrade for the 200? Something that will let me put it on = the shelf and never need to bring it back from retirement? I'm afraid = not. HP has become a "me too" producer of computer products. They have lost the vision. Today I mourn. Daniel McDonough ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:57:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr Comments: To: hpstaber@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:23:44 -0400, Hans Peter Staber = wrote: > I've been posting this to HPHAND without any reply so I try > it here now. > > I had a crash recently on my 8meg DS HP200LX running with > SSC7 and buddy. I had to reinstall from scratch and from my > backups and everything is working well again except alarm in > AppMgr. > > The try-out function in the AppMgr menu works. If I set an > alarm it does not work however. Silence in AppMgr as well as > Alt+Q in buddy are unchecked. SSC7 is supposed to turn the > machine back to AppMgr if an alarm occurs - it does not work. > > Did I miss out on anything ? > Hi HP Staber/Salzburg & List Members Try running Scconfig, Personal Preference Items, Return To Pre-alarm Work Area and put: Yes HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:57:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:06 GMT, Daniel Hertrich = wrote: > Hi list, > > A friend of mine has the following problem: > > He has got a physics book in HTML format > (one chapter =3D one HTML) > and he wants to use HV as a reader for the book. > The problem is, that he wants to store the book > on a 48 MB CF card, but that doesn't fit, except > that the HTMLs are zipped. > He tried to use Jam and Stacker, but bothing of > these shrink the files enough. > He tried to use PKZIP and then it fitted! > > My question: > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? > > I imagine the file could be unzipped, stored as tmporary file > and after loading a new file in HV it could be deleted > (replaced by the new unzipped file). Hi Daniel & List Members X-Finder can handle this. Just add the follow line to your finder.env under "Execute by matched extension": .htm ,f ,hv %c Here is how it will work in X-Finder click on the .zip file and X-Finder will open it, then click on the htm file that you want to view. X-Finder will then pkunzip it and run HV to view the file. HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:53:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> The file is spdalrm.tsr. However, what that does is undoublespeed the alarm so it plays at normal mode. Hopefully, Andreas' suggestion of deleting hidden alarm.q will help Hans. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:00:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Daniel McDonough MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel, HP in many ways is not the company it once was. It used to be an 'enginnering' company where their talented engineers would develop outstanding and real-world useable products. In between the 200lx and the Omnigo release HP was purchased / reorganized and its handheld group moved to singapore. This new group suffered from a bad case of 'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that they would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close to the mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose memory contents when batteries were low sealed its fate. After their 'first products' (omnigo's) failed they dealt with Micro$oft and became a WinCE clone shop. Sure their WinCE offerings are 'acceptable' but HP is now a 'marketing' company where salesman dictate what features a product will have. It is no longer important for their product to be a technical achievment, but instead that it just has a better feature list than the competition, usability be damned. Think about it, HP used to release landmark products such as the 100/200lx series, the Early Omnibooks, and HP Laserjet and Inkjet printers. Today they recycle printers by coming out with new models VERY often that offer little if any advantage over earlier models, Todays HP notebooks are rebadged from other companies, etc. Its all market driven, no longer technology driven as HP was in it glory days. Its quite sad actually, but I doubt we will see anything truely innovative from HP for some time to come, if at all. Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Daniel McDonough To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Then I got the HP-360LX. The latest and greatest product in the palmtop computer line. It has a backlight! Wonderful! But wait... Where is the Calculator? Where is the Database? Where are the tools so that I can write programs on this thing? What happened to Hewlett-Packard? The 360 doesn't have any superior technology when compared to the WinCE competition. Better materials and construction, maybe, but no *new* technology. So here I am, using two palmtop computers from the same company because each one has features that I use. Will HP ever produce a product that will be a true upgrade for the 200? Something that will let me put it on the shelf and never need to bring it back from retirement? I'm afraid not. HP has become a "me too" producer of computer products. They have lost the vision. Today I mourn. Daniel McDonough ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:11:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <000801be8b60$109b7f60$1d1160d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alchemist wrote: > to singapore. This new group suffered from a bad case of > 'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that > they would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close > to the mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose > memory contents when batteries were low sealed its fate. Don't forget the tiny screen, the lack of an AC adapter jack, etc. Terrific concept, horrible implementation... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:09:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: doublekey utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! A few weeks ago I saw a little utility in the SUPER top 20 that lets you type an 'underlying' character by double-typing it. So 2 times 6 gives '. I can't find it anymore, not even throught the super search engine. Anyone knows the name? Thanks! jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:19:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I mainly use my 200LX for word processing these days, either in WP51 or Memo or NoteTaker. I don't use many of the other features of Buddy except the SmartCaps, which automatically capitalizes the first letter of each sentence, the word "I," changes 6 into ' when it's hit after a letter, etc. It seems to me that loading the whole 50K Buddy TSR is a waste just for these features. Would it be possible for somebody (Stefan? ) to write a TSR that would duplicate the functionality of SmartCaps in a smaller TSR? And that would work in DOS and SysMan too... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:20:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: My introductory email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The system has 32 Meg of internal ram, a CF card and a PC Card (Type II). I use a32M CF for storage and a NIC or second PC Card. I just downloaded the SCSI drivers for a AH-1460 card. I intend to test and see if my Zip drive will connect. Stephen Souza System Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: John Musielewicz ÝSMTP:a123456@BITSTREAM.NET¨ > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 05:59 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: My introductory email > > Wow!! It uses approximately 320 mA per hour compared to the 200 which > uses about 60. The color really uses power. Does it have a type III slot > for a pcmcia harddrive? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:25:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:17:54 -0400 (EDT) 01h20m39s ago ... On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > > My question: Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must unzip a > > html before loading it ? > > I know X-Finder can unzip files on-demand and then open them up in the > proper application. I'll let one of the resident X-Finder experts say > whether or not this would work... Hi Gang- Well, I won't claim the status of XF expert, but I am a major "Findermaniac". This WILL work in XF. If you set .htm files to associate with HV (in the "Execution by matching extension" section), then choosing the .zip in the file browser will let you look inside the archive (just like a directory). Then select the .htm file you want to view, and it opens in HV... HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:51:16 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Fluff: laws of thermodynamics (was Re: Fluff: Backlit LX...) Comments: To: Bruce Martin In-Reply-To: <85256759.004EDF12.00@MLILHUB01@manulife.com>; from Bruce Martin on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 10:26:48AM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-20-14:26:48 Bruce Martin: > My professor described the three Laws of Thermodynamics as: > 1. You can't win. > 2. You can't break even. > 3. You can't get out of the game. I wonder if he got that from Robert A. Heinlein; in the Notebooks of Lazarus Long (interludes of aphorisms scattered through the novel Time Enough for Love) he says something like (paraphrasing from memory): The Three Laws of Thermodynamics: 1. You can't win. 2. You can't break even. 3. You can't get out of the game. Major philosophical foundations for life are based on negating one of these laws; capitalists believe you can win, socialists believe you can break even, mystics believe you can get out of the game. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:47:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Byron Cook Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Byron Cook Subject: Outlook to HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone considered the use of vCalendar or iCalendar to link the = HP200LX appointment book with Outlook and other calendar programs? vCalendar is an open standard which has been endorsed by a number of companies which have scheduling and PIM software products. See www.imc.org for details on the standard. There are also three RFCs on the subject numbered RFC 2445, RFC 2446 and RFC 2447. Outlook is vCalendar aware and Outlook98 also has a simple macro utility which could be used to update a corporate MS Exchange server. I think you would configure the Outlook98 rules wizard to use logic to always accept vCalendar appointments and acknowledge acceptance to all other participants in the meeting to a vCalendar sent from my POST/LX address, but forward all other scheduling requests = as a vCalendar file to my palmtop e-mail for me to review. When you got the vCalendar file on the palmtop the step by step details for handling the file would involve either an add on to Post/LX which would handle the acknowlegement and scheduling and declining of the the appointment or a series of macros and files to accept or decline appointment and to write the vCalendar file to your appointment book. I think using vCalendar would require more work on the users part and to create a program that would work with the palmtop, but I think it would be the route to go because it is an open standard and is supported by just about anyone these days (Netscape, Groupwise, Outlook, etc.). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:05:53 +0200 Reply-To: molitor@moli.franken.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Reinhard Mueller Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <199904201512.RAA26860@if0010.swisslife.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Andreas, > So I believe it *means* "regarding" and is *used* for "replying to". This sounds very reasonable. And I think the original poster should never use a "Re:" in the subject line. I always like to identify the original post. Reinhard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:08:46 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@primenet.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's features are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/). I thought that I had done a reasonably thorough search of the net prior to posting, but I missed any references to these. My apologies to the developers of these programs. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:20:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver In-Reply-To: <199903201308.PNR04641@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Mike Kopplin wrote: > OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other > servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server > for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a > couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work > well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I > haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's > features are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/). But the Newton is a PDA and not a palmtop computer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:14:37 +0200 Reply-To: molitor@moli.franken.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Reinhard Mueller Subject: AutoRoute Express MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi, I am using a DOS-Version of AutoRoute Express (including europe and germany) on my Palmtop. It`s Version 2.03, the maps seem to be from 1992. Does anybody know whether there is a later version of either the program or the maps which still run on the HP200LX under DOS (I do not intend to use Win 3.0). Is anybody else using the program on his Palmtop? thanks, Reinhard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:17:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: <199904201913.MAA23248@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > I mainly use my 200LX for word processing these days, either in WP51 or > Memo or NoteTaker. I don't use many of the other features of Buddy except > the SmartCaps, which automatically capitalizes the first letter of each > sentence, the word "I," changes 6 into ' when it's hit after a letter, > etc. It seems to me that loading the whole 50K Buddy TSR is a waste just > for these features. Would it be possible for somebody (Stefan? ) to > write a TSR that would duplicate the functionality of SmartCaps in a > smaller TSR? And that would work in DOS and SysMan too... Dude, it's there. It's called Buddydos. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:25:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > Dude, it's there. It's called Buddydos. Buddydos does NOT work in SysMan. And it has its own set of problems, like the horrible things it does to WP51. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:26:09 -0700 Reply-To: dr7zyq@nidlink.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Rogers Organization: is one cool old dude! Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Drummond wrote: > > It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply. While your info re: the meaning of RE: is correct, attributing it to Microsoft isn't. It is also used in Netscape Navigator's Mail tool bar. David, WA7ZYQ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:24:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: <199904202019.NAA51144@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > > > Dude, it's there. It's called Buddydos. > > Buddydos does NOT work in SysMan. And it has its own set of problems, > like the horrible things it does to WP51. Doh! Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util. Boy, you sure are picky, huh? Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:18:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 2:06 PM Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Alchemist wrote: > >> to singapore. This new group suffered from a bad case of >> 'not-designed-here' syndrome and decided the 200lx was done and that >> they would reinvent success with the Omnigo 100, this device was close >> to the mark in many ways but its battery life and tendancy to loose >> memory contents when batteries were low sealed its fate. > >Don't forget the tiny screen, the lack of an AC adapter jack, etc. >Terrific concept, horrible implementation... The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery life that AC power becomes an issue. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:35:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > Doh! Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util. That's part of it-- to free up some of that massive 50K, since I only really use the smartcaps. > Boy, you sure are picky, huh? I sure am. IDEALLY, I'd like a TSR that makes keystrokes in WP51 behave more like a normal word processor. i.e., shift+arrows highlights, Fn-Copy copies, Fn-Date stamps the date, etc. As it is, I can't even set up Alt-F to select the file menu, because when BuddyDOS is loaded it kills the {Menu Select} macro code. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:35:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cust=F3dio?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cust=F3dio?= Subject: Open a built-in application with a file Comments: cc: hiroyuki.sekiya@nifty.ne.jp, JBD00432@nifty.ne.jp, SDI00992@nifty.ne.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of the most frequently asked questions in this list is: "How can I add an icon to the application manager that opens my special database?" There are several solutions available in SUPER (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html), and I've tried some of them. The one I liked the most is open (you may of course disagree). Thank you Hiroyuki Sekiya, for developing it! open is a DOS executable that, when called with the name of a HPLX built-in database file, switches to the database program, and opens it. For example, if you have a phone book file called "friends.pdb", you can call at the DOS prompt "open friends", and you get the phone book application with your database opened. This can also be used in the Application Manager (More) to assign an icon to a database file, or in "\_dat\filer.ini" (writing lines as "GDB=c:\bin\open.exe %") to open a database file by pressing Enter in Filer on the file. The original open had only one problem: if the database application was running when you called "open", your request to open the file was postponed to the next time you started the application. I have corrected this misbehavior, and added support for the other internal applications: Quicken, Lotus 123 and Memo (Memo is called when the file type is unknown, so this can be used as a DOS editor for any text file - just type "open autoexec.bat" and you get it in Memo). I also included a nice feature from Smmx (also from SUPER). In Smmx you can create an icon with a wild card specification (e.g. \_dat\*.adb), and you get a selection list with all your ADB files to select from. The only problem is that it suffers from the open bug that made me modify it in the first place - it does not work if the application is running. With open 1.20 you can now type "open \_dat\*.adb", and you get a selection list of all the ADB files. Thank you to the PAL group for creating the great PAL library! It has simplified the task of modifying open a lot. open 1.20 is of course available in SUPER. Hope this information gets you somewhere. Regards, Paulo Custodio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:41:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <006e01be8b6b$02683d60$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it > were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered > for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery > life that AC power becomes an issue. But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter. I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop COMPUTER. They want ORGANIZERS." So out came the Omnigo... and the 300LX... and so forth. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:45:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Fluff: ReGARDING: Talladega Super Speedway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Let me first state that I am NOT a fan of NASCAR racing, but I am forced to > attend the Talladega races two times each year and have done so for the past > ten years in an official capacity as a Deputy Sheriff. If any of you are Whaaat?! A Good Ol' Boy from down 'Bama way who *doesn't* love stock cars like he loves his Momma? :-) Or maybe it's the thought of having to clean up after Joe Racefan who decides to find out if the family car can do 195 on a public road, with predictable results. %-0 Seriously, for the past couple of years I've been a volunteer firefighter at the annual CART racing weekend in Cleveland, and I can sympathize with you. Events like this are *hard work* when you're not a paying customer. Just try it for three days on airport tarmac under the July sun wearing 80 lbs. of gear with 120 decibels roaring in your ears while you try to keep your eye out for alcohol flames which, by the way, are pretty much invisible... you get the idea. ObOnTopic: On the other hand, it does provide the only legitimate reason I have to use the Stopwatch function in my palmtop... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:46:15 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > Yes, but of course in a less flashy way. But frankly, I prefer being > able to enter umlauts to nice flashy icons. I seriously was able to use > the cheap Casio out of the box while I considered the WinCE gadget a > poor joke due to the lack of functionality. I also must admit that my > comparison was for WinCE 1.0. I have not seen 2.0, but also I have > hardly ever seen a MS product that was "improved" in an upgrade in many > more ways than increasing its size, making it slower and more buggy > (which might be a slight exaggeration :-) > So true about M$ "upgrades", look at win98. :-) The lack of an umlaut has never been a problem for me, I can't remember the last umlaut I used. :-) > Thanks for your corrections BTW! At the time I had a look at the WinCE > stuff, there was no IrDA driver for Linux, so it was not possible to > exchange any data with any non-Windows system. Obviously, the *other side* > has found a way to "talk" to the WinCE gadgets then. > > Andreas I doubt that the CE machines drove the development of the Irda driver for linux, more likely someone with a couple of laptops that wanted them to communicate. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:47:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: <199904202030.NAA71082@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > > > Doh! Didn't know you wanted a SysMan util. > > That's part of it-- to free up some of that massive 50K, since I only > really use the smartcaps. You can save a little by removing the WorldTime night/day module. (I think that's like 13-15K.) Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:56:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > You can save a little by removing the WorldTime night/day module. (I > think that's like 13-15K.) Yeah, that's how I shaved it down to 46.1K, from ~60K. It's still humongous. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:51:14 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: HP and the handheld market > I've noticed that Pete gets a little edgey when people comment about > CE or Windows. He sees criticism as a personal attack on all that is > great and good, I guess. The old M$ paranoia. > > John Don't go bundling me in with the M$ lovers, I have used OS/2 for years and only use win95 to play games. Seems about right as a giant nintendo system. :-) You have to admit, though, that some of the people on this list (not the original poster) are rather fanatic in their hate for winCE and I just don't understand that. I collect computers, have dozens of all sizes and shapes and colors and I have never seen the need to claim that one is better than another. It is almost like they have to strike out at winCE because they feel abandoned by HP since there will never be another 200lx. I guess I am just against prejudice in any form and aimed at anything. Pete - Written on the DOS version of PMAIL Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:53:52 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver > OK, time for a correction. A couple individuals have pointed out other > servers that have been available for awhile. There is an http server > for the Newton (http://come.to/lightyear_media) and I have accessed a > couple sites that use it. A lot of great features, and seems to work > well. There is also a "minimal implementation" for the Pilot, but I > haven't found any servers using it, and have no idea what it's features > are (http://www.citi.umich.edu/u/rees/pilot/). > > I thought that I had done a reasonably thorough search of the net prior > to posting, but I missed any references to these. My apologies to the > developers of these programs. > > > Mike Kopplin > Not wishing to risk the ire of the antiCE foundation but there is also a commercial web server for CE. I remember trying it a year or so ago and it did actually work. don't have nay idea what features it had or how robust it was, the web site that advertized it had a link to a page running off of a CE machine. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:52:45 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Daniel McDonough writes: > I've been a lurker here for just a short while, but I feel we have bigger problems than WinCE. I hope someone from HP follows this list. > > First, WinCE is not that bad. I have a 360LX and I do use it for more than just a paperweight. Mainly because of the backlight. I don't use it more often because it is just a little too big to "thumb type" like I do with my 200LX. Battery life hasn't been an issue for me. However, I am disappointed in it because it doesn't have the old HP superiority. > > When I first played with an HP-35 calculator, I was blown away. It was amazing. There wasn't anything like it for years. Then I got an HP-65. It was light years ahead of the competition. I can just hear'em at HP. "You're not happy, but we gave you Windows! Windows! Why everybody wants Windows. What, you want a calculator too? What do we know about calculators!!" Indeed, what do they know. This lack of a fully functional unit leaves a big hole in the niche not filled by the palm. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:55:32 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver > But the Newton is a PDA and not a palmtop computer. > But you can write programs on it and save files and print and load programs and ... So what makes it a PDA and not a computer? Or are you saying that the HP200LX is also just a lowly PDA? Inquiring minds want to know. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:46:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 3:37 PM Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > >> The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it >> were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered >> for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery >> life that AC power becomes an issue. > >But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter. Very True. I forgot they didnt even offer one for the Omnigo. Definitely a drawback with its 'ok one minute, dead the next' battery life. > >I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop >COMPUTER. They want ORGANIZERS." So out came the Omnigo... and the >300LX... and so forth. I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp Wizards would still dominate the market. I think folks want 'some' functionality of a computer without the size and complicated nature of notebooks, etc. Easy sync with a desktop and the ability to run 3rd party programs (that are readily available) are big selling points today, as everyone tries to compete with Palm. The WinCe devices are real computers, actually having more processing power than any previous devices, but I think they miss the mark due to the expense of development, resulting in a lack of software, and their universally short battery life. Not to mention the clumsy nature of the WinCe UI I would love to see the following device, but I know HP will never produce it as from their point of view it would be a step backward. Dream machine (Not end all be all, but something I would buy in a heartbeat) 200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard. 16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx) DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:) 4mb Memory (drive C:) 640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable brightne ss) 1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots as A: and B:) Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client. Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via softmodem or just lowpower integrated) Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) although shortened by modem and backlight use. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:07:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <012501be8b6e$d8ae0820$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp > Wizards would still dominate the market. I think folks want 'some' The PalmPilot dominates the market now. It's pretty much the same thing as a Sharp Wizard in a smaller form facter (and no keyboard) and with better connectivity. HENCE... I stick with my original statement. HP figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the 200LX. So they make them. HP just doesn't care about their engineer-customers anymore. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:05:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" In-Reply-To: <19990420131923.B14453@palmtop.net>; from Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 01:19:23PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-20-17:19:23 Mitchell Hamm (N8XS): > But, I have for a long time wondered how we could do a great icon repository > for the 200LX to reside on palmtop.net or other palmtop-friendly place. > Preliminary specifications would be: > > 1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form I've never done web-based form upload, I expect the trick would be either a custom web client, or else a helper program to convert the (binary) icon file into a text encoding of some kind that can be pasted into a form. Could even be URI encoded in which case it might for all I know show up automagically decoded when it gets pulled through the CGI lib parsers. > 2) icons are categorized roughly along the same 24 SUPER categories That's a 24-item popup menu, easy to code in CGI. > 3) pages are built dynamically Easy. > 4) dynamic pages consist of an icon array imagemap (sorry HV users) I've yet to write an imagemap, and I've never used HV for online browsing, but my day-in-and-day out browser is Lynx, and just about all the imagemaps I see these days are lynx-friendly --- the imagemap is a link, when selected you get a list of links to choose from. I suspect there's a standard way to do this using CGI, since everyone does it. And it's probably the easiest way to do an imagemap. If HV is less capable than Lynx there's still a fix: the CGI can switch on the browser type ($q->user_agent) in Perl CGI. I did this recently; my first-ever CGI wanted to display a table, so first I wrote it as a text table, in columns aligned with spaces for a fixed-pitch font, in a 
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block, then I went back and wrote the (simpler:-) HTML table code, gave the user a popup for picking which they preferred, and rigged it to default by browser type --- /mozilla|msie/i default to HTML tables, everyone else defaults to text tables. Turns out, that was a particularly nice design, since once a table grows to tens of thousands of rows, HTML table handling rolls over and dies fatally, while text tables still work fine. > 5) array imagemap graphics can be downloaded for reference on the LX Easy. If you want to offer a "download" and keep the browser from trying to display it, just give it a Content-Type that the browser doesn't know about. That's most of the possible browser types, page the infinite number of monkeys:-). > I have not been able to think of an HV friendly way to do this. The original > SUPER pages showed the icons of each app, but the image buffer of HV filled up > immediately and it was slow as molasses. Andit was a hassle to have an icon for > each app. :) If you can figure out anything that you'd like to offer to HV, you can rig it via conditional logic so that other browser users won't trip over it. > I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if > ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap. Easy perling, if there's a library out there that knows ICN file I/O. There are GIF and JPG I/O libraries available (I assume, I've not needed 'em, but I'm pretty sure I've heard of 'em). -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:09:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver In-Reply-To: <48495D16005@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Peter W. Borders wrote: > But you can write programs on it and save files and print and load > programs and ... So what makes it a PDA and not a computer? Or are you > saying that the HP200LX is also just a lowly PDA? Inquiring minds want > to know. :-) The thing that makes it a PDA is that Apple and everybody who used it said "This is a PDA." The 200LX says right on it "Palmtop PC." If you put the words "computer" on a Newton, then I'll call it a computer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:04:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: memo text files? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I've created quite a few text files in memo that contain ie bold and underlined characters. I've transferred them to my desktop but when i open these .txt/.doc(whatever you call 'm) in Word I don't get it without all those strange characters. I've tried converting from RTF, MS-DOS text, ACSI; nothing. What format is it? thanks jasper -- jsdejong@wxs.nl http://home.wxs.nl/~djdjong OUT NOW : Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:07:36 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP David Sargeant writes: > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > > > The tiny screen would have been fine (look at the palmpilot) if it > > were more readable, or had a backlight, and the 200lx never suffered > > for lack of AC adapter, its not until you rob the unit of its battery > > life that AC power becomes an issue. > > But the 200LX at least HAS an AC adapter. > > I think the main problem was that HP said "Nobody wants an actual palmtop > COMPUTER. They want ORGANIZERS." So out came the Omnigo... and the > 300LX... and so forth. HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays organizers have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet they don't sort any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving backwards in time. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:13:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluff!: Re: My introductory email Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > David Sargeant wrote: > > You now have the only paperweight that uses batteries at the rate of one > > year per pair. > > I don't think this is a fair statement. It *still* serves as a battery > weight using the same pair of batteries and maybe it will still work in > a few months, so it is too earily to make a final statement about the > actual battery life :-) I can almost remember the first time I saw YOUR unit at Muir Woods sipping a beer!!!!! That was definitely more than a year ago!!! (sigh) And no, for the grammarians in the group, the unit was not sipping a beer!!! But it would not have affected its performance much anyway. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:13:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: memo text files? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>files in memo that contain ie bold and underlined characters. I've transferred them to my desktop but when i open these .txt/.doc(whatever you call 'm) in Word I don't get it without all those strange characters. I've tried converting from RTF, MS-DOS text, ACSI; nothing.<< Get DOCRTF from SUPER. It will convert Memo to RTF and that will be imported into most word processors. Save as RTF and you can use DOCRTF t= o put it back in Memo format. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:15:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: 150 mA pcmcia card limit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Musielewicz wrote: > would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card > using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible > to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5? > The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA > with a 3 volt card The 100/200LX does not supply 3.3 volts at all. All 3.3 volt cards are really dual 5 and 3.3 volt cards - they will work with either voltage. So, when a 3.3 volt card is plugged into the 100/200LX, it runs at 5 volts and therefore there is the 150 ma current limit. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:23:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <199903201607.PNR03673@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays > organizers have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet > they don't sort any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving > backwards in time. I agree. Any time I'm on a 40MHz RISC machine and I can't type a sentence because it lags many words behind, I consider that an organizer and not a real computer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:16:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Fluff: ReGARDING: Talladega Super Speedway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-20 03:45pm CDT, the following was written: > Whaaat?! A Good Ol' Boy from down 'Bama way who *doesn't* love stock cars like > he loves his Momma? > :-) I would like it them better if I could be at home watching them on television while playing with my LX.... of course I do take the LX with me so I guess I'll sit there and play Snake and Tetris . > Or maybe it's the thought of having to clean up after Joe Racefan who decides to > find out if the family car can do 195 on a public road, with predictable > results. No.... imagine about 200,000 drunks who love to walk up to and say "I shore bet you hate being here, don't you oscifer?". > ObOnTopic: On the other hand, it does provide the only legitimate reason I have > to use the Stopwatch function in my palmtop... Hmmm.... Maybe I should time Dale Earnhart to see how long it takes him to go around the fastest NASCAR track on the circuit . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:02 PM Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > >> I disagree here, if all folks wanted was an ORGANIZER, then Sharp >> Wizards would still dominate the market. I think folks want 'some' > >The PalmPilot dominates the market now. It's pretty much the same thing >as a Sharp Wizard in a smaller form facter (and no keyboard) and with >better connectivity. HENCE... I stick with my original statement. HP >figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the >200LX. So they make them. HP just doesn't care about their >engineer-customers anymore. Although it took me a long time to admit it, the PalmPilot is actually alot more of a computer than its given credit for. Just as the 200lx hardware can be easily compared with early IBM-PC desktops, the PalmPilot hardware is basically the same as early Macintosh computers. The PalmPilot's have a 'unique' file system, 68000 series processor, etc. just as Mac's did in the past. Its just that PalmPilots shield the user from its computer innards making it a no-brainer to use. Of all the handhelds out there the PalmPilot and the 200lx have ALOT in common. They both have excellent battery life, have hardware similar to desktop machines from 10years ago . Have a simple user interface to access builtin PIM functions, etc. The Palm has the advantage of Size, and a pen for input while the 200lx has the advantage of a keyboard, more robust builtin applications (1-2-3 etc.) and DOS compatibility for those who need it. With a little slight alteration of the 200lx package it could easily fit in with todays handhelds and beat them hands down on alot of fronts. As far as HP goes, I think their focus is simply on money. They know they have a large user base from the calculator & HP100/200 days and that at least a good % of them will upgrade when HP offers a new device. Getting in bed with M$ and producing WinCE machines is the path of least resistance as they don't have to design an OS, just follow M$'s hardware spec and throw in a few HP specific details and they have a product to market. And with WinCE's tendancy to obsolete itself with each new release they can be assured of reselling either new hardware or upgrades to their customers. Well enough of my rambling. I believe the majority of users want more functionality than a typical organizer can provide but they want it in an organizer 'like' system where they don't have to see any complexity unless then want to look for it. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:19:59 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP > I would love to see the following device, but I know HP will never produce > it as from their > point of view it would be a step backward. > > Dream machine (Not end all be all, but something I would buy in a heartbeat) > > 200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard. > 16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx) > DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:) > 4mb Memory (drive C:) > 640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable brightne > ss) > 1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots as A: > and B:) > Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client. > Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via softmodem > or just lowpower integrated) > > Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) although > shortened by modem and backlight use. > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com I would just opt for a little more memory (since the 32M and 64M upgrades don't seem to impact battery life too much) and a little better processor. A 386 based processor gives us the memory management needed to run real multitasking and to experiment with things like linux which would really be nice. I would think that by now there would be low enough powered 386 chips, the proliner used a 386 but I don't know how battery life is. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:12:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:18 PM Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > >> HP just designed around MS specs. Its surprizing that todays >> organizers have the computational power of yesterdays notebooks yet >> they don't sort any faster than yesterdays organizers. Its like moving >> backwards in time. > >I agree. Any time I'm on a 40MHz RISC machine and I can't type a sentence >because it lags many words behind, I consider that an organizer and not a >real computer. LOL. Yep I would consider that an organizer (or a paperweight) too. The performance should be much better on a processor that fast, until you throw an M$ GUI on it at least Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:25:41 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: OK, Not the First Palmtop Webserver > The thing that makes it a PDA is that Apple and everybody who used it said > "This is a PDA." The 200LX says right on it "Palmtop PC." If you put the > words "computer" on a Newton, then I'll call it a computer. > Cool, you mean if I mold CRAY into the lid of my 200lx I can call it a super computer? :-) I am going to go home right now and put corvette on my honda and see if it runs faster. Of course it is red and they say that red corvettes get more tickets from the cops, oh well. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:28:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour In-Reply-To: <199904202119.OAA51940@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > Although it took me a long time to admit it, the PalmPilot is actually alot > more of a computer than its given credit for. Just as the 200lx hardware > can be easily compared with early IBM-PC desktops, the PalmPilot hardware > is basically the same as early Macintosh computers. The PalmPilot's > have a 'unique' file system, 68000 series processor, etc. just as Mac's > did in the past. Its just that PalmPilots shield the user from its computer > innards making it a no-brainer to use. Of all the handhelds out there the > PalmPilot and the 200lx have ALOT in common. Gotta comment -- It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it does. The company where I work, Set Engineering (http://www.setengineering.com) did the original hardware design for the Pilot, before Palm Computing got bought by USRobotics. Palm had the original idea and made the PalmOS, but Set Engineering designed the hardware. Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:30:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain << HP figures people want organizers like the Pilot and not computers like the 200LX. So they make them. HP just doesn't care about their engineer-customers anymore. >> I still maintain regular contact with Khaw Kheng Joo, the head of the HP Singapore division that produces handhelds. He knows the feelings of strong HP 200LX users, expressed quite elegantly in this thread. And you are correct that HP doesn't care about their engineer-customers any more (these are my words, not Khaw's). HP is aiming for the broad based consumer marketplace. Khaw has a very clear mission to increase HP handheld sales to a level eventually comparable to HP DeskJet's or at least HP desktops. He believes the way to do that is to promote an industry standard (Windows CE), and produce the best quality and the greatest variety of devices. (Hence, they have a palm-size, a 200LX-size, and a mini-notebook sized CE unit). The problem as many people on the list so clearly expressed is that Windows CE units fall short in many ways to what we are used to on the 200LX. On the other hand, backliting, voice recording, MS Office synchronization, Windows-like user interface are all appealing, consumer-based features. I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets. I like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and long battery life. However, I actually would rather have an enlarged 200LX. All in all I agree with everyone: It is a shame. As publisher of Handheld PC Magazine for Users of Windows CE (www.hpcmag.com), I really want to like Windows CE. I do think for a lot of people, it is a reasonable solution and the O.S. and built-in apps will get better. But there is no way, I would let anyone take my 64 Meg double speed palmtop away from me any time in the foreseeable future. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:38:31 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. In-Reply-To: <19990420210524.A21684@mordor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > 1999-04-20-17:19:23 Mitchell Hamm (N8XS): > > 1) icons can be uploaded by anyone using a web-based form > > I've never done web-based form upload, I expect the trick would be either a > custom web client, or else a helper program to convert the (binary) icon file > into a text encoding of some kind that can be pasted into a form. Could even > be URI encoded in which case it might for all I know show up automagically > decoded when it gets pulled through the CGI lib parsers. Most modern browsers support file uploading (something implemented in Netscape around version 2.0). This feature is commonly used in web-based e-mail programs, allowing you to attach files from your computer to the e-mail you wish to send. http://www.terminalp.com/scripts/file_upload.shtml > > I think most of those specs can be met with clever perling, but I don't know if > > ICN files can be translated over to a GIF or JPG to build the dynamic imagemap. > > Easy perling, if there's a library out there that knows ICN file I/O. There > are GIF and JPG I/O libraries available (I assume, I've not needed 'em, but > I'm pretty sure I've heard of 'em). I don't think there is a decoder for ICN files, but writing one should be a no brainer (famous last words... :-) As for gif, "gifc" the GIF compiler should do the trick. http://gallery.uunet.be/Peter.Verthez/gifctxt.html I've never used either, though. Both references quoted in this message can be found at CPAN (www.perl.com), BTW, by searching for the respective keywords (file upload and gif, respectively). Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:49:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: > I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling > since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets. I > like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and long > battery life. However, I actually would rather have an enlarged > 200LX. I'd LIKE to be able to touch-type on my 320LX. But I can't. The 320LX is an excellent piece of hardware-- the screen is better than the 200LX's, especially when you remove the touch panel . But the OS is so slow that it's impossible to type on. And one of the faster machines like a 620LX, which presumably has better response time, is too big to carry around in my pocket. You just can't win... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:49:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:36:17 -0400 (EDT) 41m07s ago ... On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > 200lx (or 360lx) case/keyboard. > 16mhz 80186 CPU (basically a doublespeed 200lx) > DOS/200lx pims etc, in ROM (drive D:) > 4mb Memory (drive C:) > 640x200 16 greyscale screen with on demand backlighting (adjustable = brightne > ss) > 1 PCMCIA Type II slot (A:) and 1 CF slot (B:) (or possibly 2 CF slots = as A: > and B:) > Sysmgr compliant TCPIP stack, web browser, and email client. > Builtin 14.4 (or 28.8 power permitting) fax modem. low power (via = softmodem > or just lowpower integrated) > > Battery life comparable to an upgraded 200lx (memory + speed, etc.) = although > shortened by modem and backlight use. I'll drink to that But, as long as we're dreamin' - * A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one) * 640 x 240 (1/2 VGA) 16 greyscale screen * Maybe a low-power '386 so it can run even more DOS apps * Al least 8 megs (what I have now) for drive c: With this dream machine, we could run just about any DOS app written. Dream on! This is what the industry has forgotten how to do. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:44:27 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: 150 mA pcmcia card limit Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Stanley Dobrowski writes: > John Musielewicz wrote: > > > would it be possible to run a 3.3 volt card > > using a 5 volt port. In other words would it be possible > > to get the port to supply a dual 5/3.3 instead of 12/5? > > The reason I ask is the port would supply about 250 mA > > with a 3 volt card > > The 100/200LX does not supply 3.3 volts at all. All 3.3 volt > cards are really dual 5 and 3.3 volt cards - they will work > with either voltage. So, when a 3.3 volt card is plugged into > the 100/200LX, it runs at 5 volts and therefore there is the > 150 ma current limit. Yes, the pcmcia is built into the hornet. But the voltage has to go from the chip to the socket and I was wondering how the chip supplies the dual 12/5 and if it would be possible to change it to 5/3. I was wondering because I've seen I/O and memory cards which are not dual 5/3 just 3 and wondered if the LX could use these if it could supply the voltage. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:48:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Peniel Romanelli To: HPLX Mailing List ; Dan Ridenhour Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:36:17 -0400 (EDT) 41m07s ago ... On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Dan Ridenhour wrote: I'll drink to that But, as long as we're dreamin' - * A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one) As long as we are heading that way, why not USB, then you could use alot of devices. * 640 x 240 (1/2 VGA) 16 greyscale screen Although this would be nice, it might pose some DOS compatibility issues, unless the SysMgr app used the extra 40 pixels for a task switching menu bar, with a clock etc. and just treated the screen as 640x200 for DOS. * Maybe a low-power '386 so it can run even more DOS apps Low power is the key, I would love a 386+ in the system, but If its a choice between that and a 200lx like battery life, the battery life will win hands down. I like carrying my machine for weeks on end without changing or even thinking about batteries. * Al least 8 megs (what I have now) for drive c: Probably. Although much more might detract from battery life. And using Flash disks for additional drives means you don't have to worry about loosing things if power fails. >With this dream machine, we could run just about any DOS app written. >Dream on! This is what the industry has forgotten how to do. Yep. It won't happen. But it would be nice dan driden@stlnet.com -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:00:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE8B57.BDA9F3C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE8B57.BDA9F3C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale. It comes with a serial = cable and a manual. It runs on a 9v battery (included)or A/C adapter = (not included). It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would work with it = but I haven't tried it. It'll connect to the HP 200LX serial via a = Connectivity Pack cable and a 9 to 9 gender changer. It allows a 1 or 2 = MB Palmtop to run WWWLX or acCIS4 off the A: drive elimninating the need = for a fax/modem/memory card. It works fine and reliably. I just have = too much stuff. I'd like to get $36.00 plus $4.00 Priority Mail = shipping. Make me an offer. Best, Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE8B57.BDA9F3C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale.  It comes = with a=20 serial cable and a manual.  It runs on a 9v battery (included)or = A/C=20 adapter (not included).  It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would = work=20 with it but I haven't tried it.  It'll connect to the HP 200LX = serial via a=20 Connectivity Pack cable and a 9 to 9 gender changer.  It allows a 1 = or 2 MB=20 Palmtop to run WWWLX or acCIS4 off the A: drive elimninating the need = for a=20 fax/modem/memory card.  It works fine and reliably.  I just = have too=20 much stuff.  I'd like to get $36.00 plus $4.00 Priority Mail=20 shipping.  Make me an offer.
 
Best,
 
Bill
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01BE8B57.BDA9F3C0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:09:05 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: doublekey utility Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi! > > A few weeks ago I saw a little utility in the SUPER top 20 that lets you > type an 'underlying' character by double-typing it. So 2 times 6 gives > '. I can't find it anymore, not even throught the super search engine. It sounds as if you are describing Buddy. Which has double-click. It also shifts characters to their uppercase characters, etc. I'm not sure if is on supersite or not. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:09:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BuddyDos works in Dos. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:09:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: memo text files? Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > What format is it? Memo is its OWN format. On cis, I think there was a utility to convert it to rtf and back. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:36:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain There is a program that will convert between Windows Icon format and HP Palmtop Icon format on SUPER. Also, the format for HP Palmtop Icons is very simple. The first 8 HEX bytes are the header (01 00 01 00 2C 00 20 00) and each 8 bit HEX value from there on is image data. Like this: 00 00 00 00 00 0x The line of zeros above is the HEX data for the first row of pixels in an Icon. The little "x" I put there holds the place of the four bits that go to the next row of pixels in the icon. So the second line of the Icon starts 1/2 way through the last byte of the first row. This pattern continues until you run out of data and have built the entire 44 x 32 Icon image. The format for the data is real simple. Convert the HEX value to binary. A binary one(1) is analogous to a dark pixel and a binary zero(0) is a light pixel. So a string like this: 10 02 03 04 05 06 Looks like this: 1 0 0 2 0 3 0 4 0 5 0 10100000000000100000001100000100000001010000 . . . .. . . . .. (remember, the last 4 bits go on the next line) If you are interested, take a look at the APPMGR.DAT file with a HEX editor. Search for the 8 byte header and when you find it, copy the header and the next 192 bytes out to another file. Name that file with a .ICN extension and look at it with the Icon Editor. You can retrieve Icons from your APPMGR.DAT file this way. (there is a program on SUPER to do this also) A last note, or a request as it really is... Can someone write a program that acts like a cross between Pkzip/unzip and Icon editor? I want all my Icons to be in one large file so I don't waste mamory, but I want to scroll through them to select them for display. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad ÝSMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK¨ > > I don't think there is a decoder for ICN files, but writing one should be > a no brainer (famous last words... :-) > > Cheers, > > Laust > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:43:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain A question as long as we are dreaming here... Are there any "smarts" to a doubleslot adapter? I'm thinking here, a PC card is a bunch of case (to keep your fingers out of the 'trons). What would be the problem(s) with stripping the case from a PC card and sacrificing the speaker for the space to permanently add a (lets say...) modem? I'm thinking there is enough room "under" an installed PC card to put another (less case) in the space between the palmtop's housing and the case of the removable PC card. Phil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:04:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I picked up my Dad's Palm 3 last weekend and went about entertaining myself with it. It reminded me of my Mac Plus. That is to say, I found it capable of the tasks it had available, but it offered no avenues for exploration. It's a tool. The HP200 on the other hand, as well as being a great tool, also offers a richness that encourages exploration. I asked my Dad about adding software to the Palm and he replied "you can do that?" (Now wait a second, my Dad is no newbi to computing, he has been working in electronics sense before printed circuit boards, and still builds a better PC than I can, and I get paid to do it. :) The Palm is intended to be used as a tool to further the activities of the "masses" that is to say, it's a support device not a self-contained solution. HP once offered solutions to problems. The test equipment, calculators, computers, and yes the HPDOSLX machines were the best stuff you could get, like Snap-on only cheaper. :) I too am depressed about the junk (sorry, I had to say it) HP is producing now days. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨ > > HP just doesn't care about their > engineer-customers anymore. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 18:06:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Phil Drummond To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 6:06 PM Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >I picked up my Dad's Palm 3 last weekend and went about entertaining myself >with it. It reminded me of my Mac Plus. That is to say, I found it capable >of the tasks it had available, but it offered no avenues for exploration. >It's a tool. The HP200 on the other hand, as well as being a great tool, >also offers a richness that encourages exploration. I asked my Dad about >adding software to the Palm and he replied "you can do that?" (Now wait a >second, my Dad is no newbi to computing, he has been working in electronics >sense before printed circuit boards, and still builds a better PC than I >can, and I get paid to do it. :) >The Palm is intended to be used as a tool to further the activities of the >"masses" that is to say, it's a support device not a self-contained >solution. HP once offered solutions to problems. The test equipment, >calculators, computers, and yes the HPDOSLX machines were the best stuff you >could get, like Snap-on only cheaper. :) I too am depressed about the junk >(sorry, I had to say it) HP is producing now days. This confirms things I have read that 'speculate' that 50% of Palm users use only the built-in applications. I personally find this hard to believe with the literally 1000's (over 2k apps on PalmPilotGear alone) of applications out there that less than 50% of the potential market even knows about them, but then again I viewed the Palm devices as mere 'Toys' until I looked into development for the WinCE platform and ended up side stepping into PalmOS development. Now Ive saw the light so to speak and see the 'potential' of the device and understand its popularity. Ive even switched to a PalmV (got it in a trade ) for my PIM functions although I still keep my 100lx handy as no matter what ive strayed to I always seem to return to it in time Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Phil > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨ >> >> HP just doesn't care about their >> engineer-customers anymore. >> > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:24:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Successor to 200LX and Windows CE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You know, if it wasn't for Windows CE, even the 320LX *would* be a good successor for the 200LX. Hardware-wise, it's a great machine. The SH-3 CPU could prove trouble for running DOS, but let's put that aside for a moment. The keyboard is decent, and a lot closer to a desktop keyboard than the 200LX. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, and when you remove the touch screen layer, the contrast is probably twice as good as the 200LX's. The backlight is great and the double flash sockets are extremely useful. The 360LX and the later color machines would probably be even better. Granted, they're bigger and battery life isn't as good, but I think many 200LX users would probably be able to put up with that. BUT... All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put on there... boy, talk about a monopoly! Why isn't there a POCKET WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing. What a waste. Those ROMs pop right out, too. One of you enterprising hardware types should put all the necessary PC hardware that the 320LX is lacking on a ROM boa and market that. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:58:24 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My question: >Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must >unzip a html before loading it (if the html is >called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? Hi Daniel I dont know if HV could be linked to SHEZ yet believe it could. Try SHEZ (Pkzip front end) and specify HV as the external viewer I believe it would do what you seek. BTW Are you using TREMM or EMS? Speeds Pkzip bigtime. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:59:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: HV and japanese font Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Has anyone had success with the Japanese end of the browser. It seems that I was only able to locate the Dsp1402 and not the DSP1204a file but I don't know if that makes a difference. I haven't been able to read Japanese text with the setup recommended in the documentation. TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:08:34 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) > A question as long as we are dreaming here... > Are there any "smarts" to a doubleslot adapter? > Yes, the double slot adaptor has steering logic to switch the function of one slot to two. That is why there are problems with some combinations. I had a double slot and with 6 different flash cards and 3 different modems I never found a combination that worked so I sold it. > I'm thinking here, a PC card is a bunch of case (to keep your fingers out of > the 'trons). > > What would be the problem(s) with stripping the case from a PC card and > sacrificing the speaker for the space to permanently add a (lets say...) > modem? > > I'm thinking there is enough room "under" an installed PC card to put > another (less case) in the space between the palmtop's housing and the case > of the removable PC card. > > Phil The problem would be that the case of a pcmcia card is probably not more than 1/32" of material, both sides together. Depending on the card they are pretty solid inside full of chips and circuit board so you don't save much space by removing the case. It could probably be done and since the hornet chip supports 2 pcmcia sockets it would probably be easy electrically but still a major undertaking. Just as a comparison, someone in japan did basically the same thing with a pc110. They removed the internal 2400 baud modem and made another pcmcia slot that sticks half out of the case, wired in parallel to the top pcmcia slot. They did this so that a type III HD and a modem could be used at the same time, the type III normally blocks the top pcmcia slot. Of course another person in japan made the top pcmcia slot handle a type III drive by adding about 1/4" all the way around the middle of the machine. Very creative and patient these fellows, more than I would want to undertake. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:51:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eben Rubin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eben Rubin Subject: 4 MB Memory module-again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a 2X speed upgrade, and requires no software. I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know. Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself. Eben ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:17 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: My introductory email Comments: To: childers@garlic.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/1999 11:43:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, childers@GARLIC.COM writes: > > And yes, my 300LX serves me very well as a paper weight ;-) > > I used to use my 320LX as an alarm clock, before I sold it. > But the batteries don't last NEARLY as long if you do that. Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:24:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net To: HPLX Mailing List ; Dan Ridenhour Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 9:23 PM Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) >> But, as long as we're dreamin' - > The Palmax is basically a Libretto with a touch screen. While the libretto is a nice unit (I use one myself) its not a replacement for the 200lx. The battery life is that of a notebook not a handheld. :( Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Check out: > >http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html > >A bit big and it does need a docking station apparently. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:24:56 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg Comments: To: Martin Bergvill In-Reply-To: <36F2F1E7.7BDAC3D2@mobilpost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For sale: PALMTOP HP 200 LX 2Mg, + 1 Mg upgrade (=3Mg) + rechargeable batteries, + power supply, +computer link (cable+software DOS/Windows) + 10MG flash card (20 MB Compressed), + leather case, + All doc ... asking AU$680 for this unit in perfect condition. see it @ http://www.hp.com/jornada/palmtops/palmtops.html in Melbourne/Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:24:02 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Successor to 200LX and Windows CE Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Sargeant wrote: > > You know, if it wasn't for Windows CE, even the 320LX *would* be a good > successor for the 200LX. Hardware-wise, it's a great machine. The SH-3 > CPU could prove trouble for running DOS, but let's put that aside for a > moment. The keyboard is decent, and a lot closer to a desktop keyboard > than the 200LX. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, and when you remove > the touch screen layer, the contrast is probably twice as good as the > 200LX's. The backlight is great and the double flash sockets are > extremely useful. The 360LX and the later color machines would > probably be even better. Granted, they're bigger and battery life > isn't as good, but I think many 200LX users would probably be able > to put up with that. BUT... > > All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has > virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put > on there... boy, talk about a monopoly! Why isn't there a POCKET > WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing. What > a waste. > > Those ROMs pop right out, too. One of you enterprising hardware types > should put all the necessary PC hardware that the 320LX is lacking on a > ROM boa and market that. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Right on Dav I agree with you all the way. I have a HP95LX,HP200LX and HP320LX Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:20 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: childers@garlic.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/1999 05:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, childers@GARLIC.COM writes: > It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it > does. Geez -- couldn't you persuade him to draw up DOS compatible architecture? Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:22:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > But, as long as we're dreamin' - Check out: http://www.palmax.com/index2_e.html A bit big and it does need a docking station apparently. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:01:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zimm4@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Zimmerman Subject: Re: WinCE . . . PalmPilot pretty nice When I was debating a handheld "unit", my only consideration was between a 200lx and a PalmPilot. I really think the two are cut from the same cloth as far as the fun and usefulness factor goes. I spent a lot of time roaming the Internet for stuff on both and found the PalmPilot to have thousands of useful software available. It is amazing what those who've been caught in its spell can do when given a measly 10K to program in. Someone has figured out how to do just about everything with it. It reminds me of the old Classic Victorinox - not a lot of blades but enough to fix anything. I did go with the 200lx instead though. The keyboard is nicer than the touch screen/grafiti interface. Having WordPerfect 5.1 available was a huge selling point as was Lotus and the database utility. The games I liked on PalmPilot were available for the 200lx as well. AND, the people on this list were far more helpful and nice than those I met wandering Palm circles. I like my 200lx but I wouldn't sell the Palms short. Besides, any enemy of WinCE is a friend of mine. Larry Zimmerman ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:50:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zimm4@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Zimmerman Subject: Looking for a Utility I've got a Win95 utility that I use to reformat data files and I really like it. I would, however, like it even more if it were something usable on the 200lx with batch files. The program can reformat any fixed length or comma delimitted file according to the user's specifications in separate text configuration files. I played around with making a similar tool in Perl and it works fine but still not suitable to the palmtop. I've looked in my "Learn C in a Nanosecond" books and they make my head spin. It occurred to me that maybe something already exists or someone here could point me in a direction for figuring out how to "roll my own." The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII. Can't give better directions to it right now. Thanks in advance. Larry Zimmerman ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:08:53 EDT Reply-To: GSmoot1938@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Smoot Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: eugarps@ibm.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'vve been looking for a pocket modem, but kind of gave up on it. But I will go $30 total. Demon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:16 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: garz@iprolink.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If we were all using our Collins dictionaries, we would have learned that re means, "With reference to," and comes from Latin. Re is the ablative (roughly, possessive) tense of the word "res" which means "thing." Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:53:19 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. Comments: To: david@hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/20/1999 12:02:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, david@HPLX.NET writes: > > Is it possible to write a program ( me not > > programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons? I imagine > > that allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the > > permutations would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 > > > > I figure I'm good for about 100,000 or so this year. :) > Yes, and with an infinite number of monkeys with type writers, you will eventually write all the great books. But who wants the job of sorting through all the losers looking for the gems> Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:55:37 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Sphinx C-- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I found this URL in the news groups. http://www.respublica.fr/sphinxdev/ Alain Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:44:57 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour In-Reply-To: <028001be8b82$7bf33ba0$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The bottom line rules, HP is also shedding alot of the lower end products, printers etc, expecting the dealers who sell them to also fix them...=20 You get what you pay for? What can you expect in the future? If only the president of the company could get your emails... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:02 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Yep. It won't happen. But it would be nice Hi List I STRONGLY disagree with part of the above statement (apologies Dan :)) I STRONGLY AGREE with part of the above statement. How do you feel? Question:: What would it take to create this or similar dream machine? Time? Team? Design? Support? Finance? Software? Marketing? If in the near future this type of product existed do you know of any company/team or individual that is more likely to have brought it into being than right here? I ask.... what if? We were to form a development team? Would you contribute? How? "We" being a group that contributes what you can and reaps rewards accordingly. If you as a consumer were able to custom order a replacement to the beloved 200LX what would you want included? For this you would have paid? Recommended to friends? Dreams are wonderful. What would it take to get into action? Respectfuly posed questions Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:24:52 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Successor to 200LX and Windows CE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi david, you are right. why the 200LX is so good? It's not only the hardware. It's because so many people where adding new fonction year after year (day after day). The future is a dos only LX. I mean running sysmanger on any PC (palmtop or desktop). It's because you don't have to change the machine every 6 month after upgrading your OS. I like the fact I will be able to use my palmtop next year without thinking it's obsolet. If you still want to use windows 3.0 or 3.11, you are leaving in another age, because there is no new program for this "OS". yes windows 3.11 is dead, yes windows 95 is (near) dead, yes windows NT 4 is (near) dead, but I will not be able to run the next microsoft OS on my PC. OH, yes DOS is not dead. Alain > All the great hardware is crippled by an operating system that has > virtually no application support (other than what Microsoft decides to put > on there... boy, talk about a monopoly! Why isn't there a POCKET > WORDPERFECT IN ROM, HUH?) and can't even keep up with simple typing. What > a waste Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:20:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: New HPLX-L Record! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: Just wanted to let you all know that I just released the HPLX-L for the second time today! That means over 150 messages were sent to the LIST. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:28:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Cavendishl@aol.com In-Reply-To: <9112fa95.244e7b80@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/20/1999 05:27:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > childers@GARLIC.COM writes: > > > It's thanks to my boss that the Pilot has the hardware architecture it > > does. > > Geez -- couldn't you persuade him to draw up DOS compatible architecture? Unfortunately, I wasn't with the company at that point in time. Otherwise, you can be sure that I would have spoke up! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:24:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Walter G. Horbert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Walter G. Horbert" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) In-Reply-To: <199904201537.KAA07243@sdds0.pagenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh please, it's use in *email* predates microsoft! 'Regarding' is it's traditional meaning, at least to one who has been reading email since the mid-seventies... W. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of > Phil Drummond > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:37 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) > > > It's a Microsoft-ism meaning Reply. The proof is in this test. Open an > original post select the Reply icon, button, or what have you. > Input, send, > and wait. Identify your input and observe the addition to the > topic, placed > there by M$ (ok, yes a lot of mail and news programs, not M$ do > it also :). > It must mean "Reply". I just think of it as "not the original post". > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paal Rasmussen ÝSMTP:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨ > > > > about the meaning of the term Re: as seen in the subject line of this > > message for example. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:28:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: 4 MB Memory module-again Comments: To: Eben Rubin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Eben Rubin To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 10:11 PM Subject: 4 MB Memory module-again >I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB >unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a >2X speed upgrade, and requires no software. > >I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know. > >Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself. Do you know if this board will work in a 1000cx? 2mb Version? Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com > >Eben > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:30:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Johnson Organization: AlliedSignal Engines Subject: Re: 4 MB Memory module-again Comments: To: Eben Rubin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eben Rubin wrote: > > I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB > unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a > 2X speed upgrade, and requires no software. > > I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know. > > Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself. > > Eben > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml How hard is it to install the 4MB plug-in memory module. If it is not too difficult I would be interested. - Jim Johnson AlliedSignal Engineering Laboratory Phoenix, Arizona jim.johnson@phxase.allied.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:28:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mikeg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mikeg Subject: Backlit 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As promised, I wrote to Azusa Kanayama about his backlit 200LX - excerpts of his reply are below. I told him how to join this list, which he may do in another week as he is going out of town. Since we live in the same town, he suggested we meet and discuss our machines over a beer some time. Mike Goggin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------ When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group. They designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX. We shared the development cost and actual parts cost. It was about..$50 (US$). Unfortunately, these parts are not available now. By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are needed, just two AAs are needed. In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be about half to third. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:14:21 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered it >either if you are following the anit-trust litigation). Microsoft didn't >even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except under >the most imaginative of revisionist history. > >Re is a shortened form of the Latin "In Re" meaning "In the affair; in >the matter of; concerning; regarding." Such usage is still common in >virtually all legal correspondance of a formal nature and informally in Thanks for that excellent clarification Larry, you beat me to it. Isn't it sad that already the history of the written word is being accredited to Microsoft. I notice with my eldest son (19) that the spoken word has degenerated to guttural grunts and blasphemies (no I'm not an evangelist 8-) ). I can only hope to save my youngest son from reverting to the spoken and written word of the caveman. Regards to all.......Liam ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:25:29 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ideas for POST/LX: * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could just judge the first ones for removal. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:25:31 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Post/LX Ideas? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Nicholas Chan wrote: > > Something I feel that should be implimented is email syncing, somethin= g like the 3Com ... > POST/LX is a self-contained email software package and not just a > desktop-add-on. For that reason, there is no desktop counterpart that > it could sync with. ... > Andreas Hear, hear! I was once obsessed with the idea to sync with Lotus Notes. But soon I realised that I didnt have to. I do ALL my email and appointment on my hp200lx. If You have Lotus Notes and whant the mail that is coming there to go to Your HP, then You just write a Agent that forward Your mail to the email adress that You use with WWW/LX (Its quite easy to create a Agent in Lotus Notes, ask me if You run into problem) /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 23:29:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP? If so, how are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading, but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:28:22 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: Alchemist In-Reply-To: <000801be8b60$109b7f60$1d1160d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alchemist wrote: >HP in many ways is not the company it once was. It used to be an >'enginnering' company where their talented engineers would develop >outstanding and real-world useable products. I assume you've heard that HP is splitting into an as yet-unnamed measurement company, and a computing/imaging company. I started with HP in 1983, when we in the measurement part were about half the company. Here's my take on the split: HP's businesses have been diverging for some time now. Our traditional company had a high vertical integration (everything in the product was done at HP). There was lots of effort spent on R&D. We didn't sell train loads of anything, but we had a good profit on each product. Marketing was basically a direct sales force. But since HP got into printers and PC's (late 80's), there has been a shift in these. Technology development? It's handled by Microsoft, Canon, and Intel. Sales? CompUSA et al. What gets done by HP? Well, they buy some parts (printer engines, microprocessors, operating systems) and put them together with lots of marketing. They have lots of revenue, but margins are very tight. After the split, the new company will be more like the former, and what's still called HP will be the latter. By the way, to get an idea of how the new HP is less vertically integrated, compare these numbers. HP's revenues will be split at about $40B vs. $8B. However, the 120,000 employees will be split at about 75,000 vs. 45,000. --=20 Curtis Cameron WGS-84 N33.033 W96.724 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:11:31 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: Bill Sprague MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi, > > I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale. > It looks like the HP F1011A Adapter would work with it > but I haven't tried it. i have one of these modems on my bedside table and use it regularly for my 200LX. I can confirm that the HP Adapter will work with the modem. GaryS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 21:41:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE . . . PalmPilot pretty nice In-Reply-To: <19990420.210154.3750.2.zimm4@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Larry Zimmerman wrote: > When I was debating a handheld "unit", my only consideration was > between a 200lx and a PalmPilot. I really think the two are cut from > the same cloth as far as the fun and usefulness factor goes. I agree... and the PalmPilot's tiny size is pretty slick. I'm actually tempted to get one of the Palm VII's with built-in wireless messaging... but probably not. Too expensive. In any case, the thing that kills the PalmPilot for me is the lack of a keyboard like the 200LX's. I know there are add-on keyboards for the Pilot, but since I do a whole bunch of word processing on the palmtop (wrote a six-page geology report today at work after using HV to do the research on the web, all while my desktop was being tied up via pcANYWHERE by our accounting software people in Pennsylvania... I love this little computer ) I absolutely have to have the keyboard. Nice as Graffiti is, it's not anywhere near as fast as the 200LX keyboard for me. > I like my 200lx but I wouldn't sell the Palms short. Besides, any > enemy of WinCE is a friend of mine. I'll drink to that! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:22:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Source for old Station 100 base shells Hi all, I got quite a few private email requests for my source of old Station 100 base shells, so I thought it best to simply post the info to the list for all to see. First of all, these shells are just that... "shells". They don't have any supporting hardware, plugs or even the clip that used to fit into it. I was lucky since the rep that helped me did manage to find an old clip laying round and included it with my shell. (He's since left the firm.) From what I can tell, the clip really didn't work that well anyway, and it isn't actually necessary for the simple slide-in connection that the base shell provides. My source who claims to have approximately 40-50 Station 100 base shells gathering dust is Calculating Edge at 1-800-677-7001. The rep I originally talked to offered one to me for $10 + $4 S/H. It appears that a whittled down HP200LX plug casing on the standard HP200LX connectivity cable will fit into the Station 100 base shell well, but for those of you who would rather attempt to restore that shell to it's original state, here is some alleged info that you could check out for accuracy: Word has it that the original internal cable that was used in that base to provide a standard serial plug receptacle on the back of the base for easy industry standard serial cable connection was supplied in quantity by Enhanced Cable at 1-408-232-0200 with a part number of 104-09103. It supposedly was a 10 pin to 9 pin 5 foot cable that was housed inside the base. I'm not sure how accurate that original cable and plug info really is and I don't believe that Enhanced Cable normally deals in anything but large quantities. I abruptly stopped researching this once I realized just how easy it would be to whittle down the HP200LX serial plug casing on the original HP200LX serial connection cable to fit snuggly into the base shell and then simply run the cable out of the back of the base for a direct connect to a desktop's serial port. If anyone decides to research additional source info for the Shell's other original components for whatever reason, please let me know what you find out. Cheers! John Vander Stel President of DataVault Co. A Division of AFCIS, Inc. Member of the Michigan RBS Assoc ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:42:18 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Smtpserv Comments: To: John Musielewicz John Musielewicz writes: > I tested this on the 200LX and it works. All it does is recieve mail > though. Can it be expanded? An actual mail server on the 200LX. It's open source, so it certainly can be expanded. It just takes someone to do it :-) -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:12:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > There is a hidden file named ALARM.Q (in _DAT). It may be corrupted. If > you delete it, the problem may go away. I saw it but didn't dare delete it :) I'll do so now. Thanks. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:12:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > My question: > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? Try DIET.EXE which can run as TSR and compresses files. If it's TSR it will decompress files automatically (fast !) and compress them again if you follow instructions in the doc's. Backup your machine before since I don't know how it may interfere with your other software. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:37:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Outlook to HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Byron Cook wrote: > Has anyone considered the use of vCalendar or iCalendar to link the HP200LX You can expect to see some vCalendar (actually iCalendar) support in future versions of D&A products as we are currently looking into it. Don't expect it to be too soon though. You may also expect that MS will "improve" the standard so that non-MS products cannot handle vCalendar stuff sent by their products :-( Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:37:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: HV and japanese font MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit aguze118 wrote: > Has anyone had success with the Japanese end of the browser. It seems that I > was only able to locate the Dsp1402 and not the DSP1204a file but I don't know > if that makes a difference. I believe that makes the difference work/not work. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:01:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tomas Moberg wrote: > Ideas for POST/LX: > > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. Would you go for a v e r y s l o w message list to get that? POST/LX would have to read through all of the text to provide that information. Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too". Any suggestions? > * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my > messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could > just judge the first ones for removal. So you remove the big messages and not the unimportant ones? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Snake Icon Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Here's my try at a Snake icon... Nice Icon... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX and PGP Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris, > I thought I'd pipe up here with some experiences I've had in the past. > Large chunks, or even entire messages, would be blank when viewed in > Post, yet clearly visible in the external editor. I sent one or two > examples to Avi at the time, but he didn't offer any explanation for > this behaviour. When was that? I do not recall such a message. Sorry... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:58:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Larry N Zimmerman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Microsoft did not "invent" business correspondence (havn't mastered it > either if you are following the anit-trust litigation). Microsoft didn't > even "invent" e-mail so RE could hardly be a microsoft-ism except under > the most imaginative of revisionist history. I think that in the next elections, Microsoft will claim that Al Gore worked for Microsoft when he invented the Internet, no? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Apul, > I have always thought that it followed the old legal jargon, (latin based) > and meant roughly Regarding, whereas it seems recent usage (RFC's etc) > would have it mean something Reply. > I know you as a knowledgeable and vocal lot, so how about it? What does > those two letters mean to y'all?? I don't know the root of the term really, but I have always seen it used, and use it myself, in the meaning of "regarding such and such..." or in the meaning of "in reference to such and such...". Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Phil, > Is it possible to write a program ( me not > programmer, me user) that creates _all_ possible Icons? I imagine that > allowing for the width and height (44 x 32) of an HP Icon, the permutations > would come to something like 78,962,960,182,680.7 (find that with your CE > palmtop }:) Allowing for most of them to be "junk" there would be a number > of them left as useful. If the members of the list all had this program and There is a similar famous one: If you take an infinite number of monkeys and give them each a typewriter to bang on (or a 200LX, will last longer...) and allocate an infinite amount of time to them doing what they do, is it possible that they will come up with Shakespeare's sonnets? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 00:57:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ANN: Perl 4.0.36 with PAL extensions Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bennett, > Could be, for the kind of work you do. I don't do that kind of work. Perl is > not designed for that kind of work. If your work can't stand the light of day, > you probably better look for something other than perl to do it in. > > > I would never include passwords in programs - that is well, at least dumb... > > That was your example, not mine. I agree, it's terribly, terribly dumb. I think i am confused again. I said that I want to do some Perl programs and wanted to turn them into an executable code. I was told don't do it. (you did the same now too). I was advised to keep my perl scripts in source form. I explained that I really did not want to do it because I did some process with the input that I did not wish to share. The methodology was very important to keep away from public eye. Again I was told that it is safest to keep it in source form. That is strange to me. I answered with a complete hypothetical: Suppose part of my process was to access some other site to get data, which among others included someone's credit cards. If the source was available to the world to read, then ANYONE with 25% of cranial capacity can follow the same route, get at the info and cause damage. Now, I am again being told that it is not safe to make Perl scripts an executable. Fine. No one except you gives a hint why not. You alluded to something like "wrapping Perl code in and executable." What exactly do you mean? Do you mean the Perl stuff is somehow tokenized and then really executed from tokens rather than source? How do other webpages do their stuff? Many of them take faily confidential information using SOMETHING. Many use SSL and other such things. But many do not. How do they guard against people peering into their Perl scripts, or other scripts for that matter? Am I to conclude that if a cgi-bin directory has an execute only right to groups and the world that ANYONE can break into the directory and look at it? I thought Perl executes on the SERVER side, hence it will not be something present on the CLIENT machine. So how would anyone get into the cgi-bin directory protected as I described? I am sorry I am so dense, but I hear the same admonition over and over again, but there is not explanation going along with it, and I am curious. > > But various methodology would be tough to discern from an executable vs. > > open source. > > I don't know quite what you mean by that. What I meant is that I process some information in ways that I do not wish to share with the world. Contrived Example: Someone states as input that they use Netscape Browser. I want to look in the variables and confirm, but I do not want to tell the world I am doing this. If the Perl script was in source and ANYONE in the world could read it then ANYONE could see the methodology, i.e. that I was checking on this. I thought, maybe incorrectly, but I don't understand _why_ it is incorrect, that if the Perl program was in the for of an executable, that it was substantially more difficult to see what the method is. In fact, I thought that if NO ONE in the world could READ the directory whenre that Perl program was (but could execute it), that it would provide another safety net. > > > So don't do it. If you can't release your code in perl source, don't release > > > it in executable; there's no useful difference in security. > > > > Really? You mean these programs can be retrofitted? > > How do you mean "retrofitted"? Do you mean "reverse engineered", or perhaps > "decompiled"? If so, the answer is yup, programs for doing that were an old > hat when I was first starting with computers around 1980. Sorry, yes. I meant reverse engineered not retrofitted. Decompiled was another better term of course. Yes, I am aware (and used, even last week) programs to decompile. Still, it would take tons of work. And still, the method may not be apparent even then. How about access to the directory where these programs reside? > > How do sites that have critical work do it in Perl? > > Sites do major critical work in perl all the time. They write the programs to > do what they need, in a suitable language; often that language is perl (with > modules added as needed to customize the language until it's a good fit for > the problem domain). > > Then they release their programs, if that's what they want to do, or they > don't, if they don't. It's really quite simple. Huh? I have no idea what you are saying here. I am not sure where you come from in this statement. One of the good people here wrote a 2x,000 line Perl program recently for some compnay. You claim it is advisable to release the code for all to see? I am really a little confused by the scope of the statement, and do not quite know how far reaching you mean that... If a commercial development in Perl is the livelihood of a company should they just release it for the world to see, copy, use whatever? Is this how you meant it? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ PS - Don't think I am not appreciating immensely that you are patient with me! I know you are... And I am grateful. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 01:11:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: d.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? How about a batch file that unzips a file whose name is in a variable, then open HV and input that html name? (Mostly) untested batch file name viewhtml.bat:: Pkunzip %1 hv %1.htm To use enter: viewhtml lesson1 Assuming that lesson1.zip contains lesson1.htm May need a bit of work around the edges... But it's a start. I also know it is not nearly as sexy as using all these newfangled neat programs, but it seems to be an overkill to load up another program when a simple tool which exists on the palmtop can do as good a job (I mean batch files.) (I just thought of an addition to the batch file: At the end, after HV add del %1.htm So you regain the space. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:57:23 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: mikeg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group. They >designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX. We shared the >development cost and actual parts cost. It was about..$50 (US$). :-) I like this maniac stuff. Japanese engineering is generally very good! How many members? >Unfortunately, these parts are not available now. Replacement parts should be able to be found. Maybe better/smaller/need less juice. >By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are >needed, just two AAs are needed. Where did he fit the inverter? Is there any spare place in the 200Lx. The EL backlight could be fitted by placing a distance ring around the lid, between the two halves. >In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be >about half to third. Mmm, about laptop time? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:56:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ICN & HV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just converted an ICN to PCX using lxpic. Then I converted the PCX to GIF and JPG using Paint Shop Pro. File sizes are: ICN =3D 200 bytes PCX =3D 368 bytes GIF =3D 218 bytes JPG =3D 1231 bytes this is not surprising for me as I know the basics of each format. If you want to have HV to display ICN files, you only have to add a line to the ÝViewers¨ section of HV.CFG: ICN=3DLXPIC %s ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:21:30 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re Dream machine Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Russell Hemery To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: 21. april 1999 05:17 Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) >Question:: What would it take to create this or similar dream machine? Dedication and blinders. You know, the type horses use... >Time? Well, people have time to draw snake icons... :-) >Team? No problem, seem to have seen hw & sw engineers on the list. >Design? KISS. >Support? Hard part. >Finance? People spend quite a lot on their gadgets, seems to me. >Software? DR-DOS. Networking, multitasking, compatible with MS-DOS too. Internet would be simple then. Or Linux? >Marketing? Web/word of mouth. >If in the near future this type of product existed do you know of any >company/team or individual that is more likely to have brought it into being >than right here? A no-name company nobody has heard of before. >We were to form a development team? People have already one job. And family. Usually. But it would be something to add it to one's cv! >Would you contribute? Yes. >How? Mmm, not so smart, unfortunately. My electronics is 10 years old, no sw programming knowledge, little financial power. >"We" being a group that contributes what you can and reaps rewards accordingly. >If you as a consumer were able to custom order a replacement to the beloved >200LX what would you want included? Mmm, lets think about that. >For this you would have paid? I don't know really. >Recommended to friends? That I would. >Dreams are wonderful. What would it take to get into action? One would have to get of one's arse! :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:45:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel McDonough Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel McDonough Subject: Can we influence HP? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was surprised by the response generated by my ravings. I am not alone in my disappointment that HP has abandoned its roots. The HP brand *was* a symbol of engineering excellence. I was willing to pay more for the product because I knew the standards of quality HP stood for. Recently HP announced that they were splitting the company, to return to their roots. Members of this group are a part of those roots. We are customers who recognize the value of quality engineering. We are willing to spend the extra 10-20% to get a truly superior product. We are not sheep. Thaddeus sells their *Hand-made* 64 meg 200 for $1175.00. I don't know how many they sell, but imagine what HP could produce for that price. The problem is that they wouldn't sell that many. At least not enough to convince the bean-counters and share holders. What we need to do is convince HP that they need to produce a flagship product. Something like the Plymouth Prowler. Such a product would by definition be low production and not a real money maker. It would be a product that shows HP engineering and design is second to none. It would be a product whose purpose is to show what can be done, not make buckets of money. It would be a product that people like us would lust after and buy. My question is: How do we convince HP that they need products like that to maintain their image? A company dedicated to quality listens to its customers. We can choose to speak with one voice so that we can be heard, or we can remain silent and let the vision die. Which will it be? Daniel McDonough ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 02:53:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: Tomas Moberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tomas, > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. How will you use it? > * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my > messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could > just judge the first ones for removal. Hmmmm... Bigger is worse? Not if you ask HP re Wince machines! :) I have about 20,000 messages on the palmtop now (yes, 20,000 approximately). And I go over stuff on an on going basis and delete, delete, delete... It comes in faster than I delete it :( ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:01:02 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Dream machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A little info about how other little projects... Linux was developed openly. Why not some hardware developed openly? There is a shareware hardware concept functioning today, re Garmin GPS connectors by Purple Open Project, www.pfranc.com. This seems to work ok, got 2 connectors up front. This guy has/had access and know-how to mold non-standard plastic connectors. Comes in a bag with 2 plastic parts, screw and sockets. There is a lot of consumer/industrial electronics being made, something should be able to be built. A quick scan of one of these large electronics catalogs shows a lot of interesting stuff. Seems basically that one just needs to sew things together, more so than 15 years ago! I said 10 in an earlier post, but then I started counting... :-( Again, DR-DOS, www.caldera.com, could be licensed. MS-DOS compatible, networking, multitasking, Webspyder web browser (or Avi & co could turn their shirt sleeves up!) Best bet? 386/486? Nokia's new 9110 mobile telephone uses one, plus GEOS operating system. GEOS is another candidate for a GUI, other than making the whole thing browsable with WebSpyder or HV+. Must be licsensed. Second. What about the BIOS? Any pd/shareware/alternative BIOS projects around? MR-BIOS was bought out, wasn't it? Or could one copy a bios on an old trashed pc one had? Legality? That's going to make a lot of support problems, everybody running a different bios. I assume Pentiums are out of the picture, not a reliable source and too power hungry. All I hear about are 1/2/3/486s in industrial systems, they are still produced/large amounts in stock. Are there any low power Pentiums about? Not laptop type low power versions. The Elektor (actually sister mag, Swedish AoE) magazine has a 80186 microcontroller project starting now. Only 64 KB though! Backlit, VGA modules are found in different sizes. Driver chips? Colour? Power usage? There is also PT-DOS, http://www.phystechsoft.com/en/ , from Russia, also something called Free-DOS, don't know where that is. Outsider. Also, there was an Omnigo 100 "wish-list" of wanted sw, I think they also had a "rogue's gallery" too! Maybe someting for the SUPER site? Unless one skips the sw, just produce a lp dos-compatible pc. br Franklin (Little to do at work today, it seems...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:53:15 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Dream machine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Batteries: Prismatic cells, they are square and therefore possible to save space/increase capacity. Gone is possibility of batteries every where any time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:03:27 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >* A real parallel port (of course with 2 slots we could add one) >As long as we are heading that way, why not USB, then you could use alot of >devices. I heard that MS is pushing USB 2.0 as a possibility of having a universal docking station for all laptops/pdas. Just one plug into the dockingstation and one has access to everything, network, screen, keyboard whatever. USB 1.x that we have now is a bit slow for screens, so there is talk of a faster USB. We might as well use FireWire then? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:16:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: HV and japanese font Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Any ideas of where I can get that file? I tried the Japanese site listed in the documentation and some other sites but no luck. I believe it's called dsp1402a.lzh Thanks Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:52:33 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net If you get get news you should be able to post. Just select Post instead of mail and use the correct newsgroup name Jeff Johns writes: > Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP? If so, how > are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my > local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading, > but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and > also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance? > > 73 Jeff > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* > |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | > | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| > |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | > *------------------------------------------------------------------* > > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:32:35 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: mikeg 1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL specs. mikeg writes: > As promised, I wrote to Azusa Kanayama about his backlit 200LX - excerpts > of his reply are below. I told him how to join this list, which he may do > in another week as he is going out of town. Since we live in the same > town, he suggested we meet and discuss our machines over a beer some time. > > Mike Goggin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------ > > When I was in Japan, I was a member of HP200LX "maniac" user group. They > designed the custom inverter and EL panel for 200LX. We shared the > development cost and actual parts cost. It was about..$50 (US$). > > Unfortunately, these parts are not available now. > > By using the above custom inverter and EL panel, no external battery are > needed, just two AAs are needed. > > In my feeling, if I use back-lite all the time, the battery life will be > about half to third. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 06:48:12 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP David Sargeant writes: > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: > > > I personally like using a CE mini-notebook sized unit when traveling > > since what I do most is email, write, and do small spreadsheets. I > > like to be able to touch type with instant on, light weight, and long > > battery life. However, I actually would rather have an enlarged > > 200LX. > > I'd LIKE to be able to touch-type on my 320LX. But I can't. The 320LX is > an excellent piece of hardware-- the screen is better than the 200LX's, > especially when you remove the touch panel . But the OS is so slow > that it's impossible to type on. And one of the faster machines like a > 620LX, which presumably has better response time, is too big to carry > around in my pocket. You just can't win... What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot easier to use at a desk. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:53:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: ICN & HV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > format. If you want to have HV to display ICN files, you only > have to add a line to the ÝViewers¨ section of HV.CFG: > > ICN=LXPIC %s Actually, HV can display ICN files natively (because it was so easy to implement ). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:54:14 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: Snake Icon - and some stuff. Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mitch, again I know how to translate the ICN to GIF files. If you want, I can do it and contribute to the project. Regards, Paulo -- +-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio * Technical Project Manager | A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706 Fax: +49.30.7002 4780 +---------------+ mailto:Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:53:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Checked Intel low power embedded 486sx, at best it's using about 200mA at 2,2V at 25 MHz. Current just goes higher after that with higher voltage/freq. But power saving modus like on the 200LX should better things over time. FPUs are power drains usually. Lets say screen/processor power is 50/50, then we get about total 400mA. Two AAs at 1200mAh gives us 3 hours. No consideration for I/O yet. I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something? How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE project? br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:13:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something? Elan SC400. This has PCMCIA slot support, screen support, etc. built in and was designed for low power applications. ---- On a more general note..... Hey folks! here we go again. This seems to be a semi-annual event - building the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the new device and then writing code to trap the custom hardware accesses and emulate them. And, as always, I'm willing to help out with this . (Drivers are my life :-) Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard anything lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack? rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:31:22 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) I think AMD has lower powered. 486 at 8 is about 30 ma. Franklin writes: > Hi all, > > Checked Intel low power embedded 486sx, at best it's using about 200mA at > 2,2V at 25 MHz. Current just goes higher after that with higher > voltage/freq. But power saving modus like on the 200LX should better things > over time. FPUs are power drains usually. > > Lets say screen/processor power is 50/50, then we get about total 400mA. Two > AAs at 1200mAh gives us 3 hours. No consideration for I/O yet. > > I don't know about 386. Maybe AMD has something? > > How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE > project? > > br > > Franklin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:35:31 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) > the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the > built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone, appointments, database, hp calc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:40:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: alarm in AppMgr Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi HP Staber/Salzburg & List Members > > Try running Scconfig, Personal Preference Items, Return To Pre-alarm > Work Area and put: Yes > > HTH > > Regards, > > Qman... Thanks. The fault was the hidden file ALARM.Q in c:\_dat as Andreas mentioned. Alarm is up and running again. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:39:29 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: Rick Kozak MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Elan SC400. This has PCMCIA slot support, screen support, etc. built in and >was designed for low power applications. :-) I will look for it. >the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the >built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the Why not just use the programs from the Conn. Pack? HP calc emulators are available. Spreadsheet can be whatever one finds, same with PQ, then one could run the last DOS version. br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:45:39 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Dos task switching Has anyone tried Dosamatic from the SUPER site? It is not a bad idea it uses memory to multitask programs. Has anyone got it to use expanded memory? It only uses convential for me which means it runs out of space real fast. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:57:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't use these. It never occurred to me - or to anyone else on this list - before. What about alarms, though? rick >> the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the >> built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into the > >Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone, appointments, >database, hp calc. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:57 +0100 Reply-To: Robert Wuttke Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Wuttke Subject: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user: http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/ Robert /* Robert Wuttke * rowu@tfh-berlin.de * Tel. +49 171 6414530 */ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:04:13 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) You would need a tsr for alarms. I think there is one on the super site. If you use DR-DOS as the rom dos you will have multitasking so switching between programs is possible. HDM or a revised version which supports multitasking could be used for an icon based interface. Rick Kozak writes: > I don't use these. It never occurred to me - or to anyone else on this > list - before. What about alarms, though? > > rick > > > >> the next 200LX ourselves. As always, the issue would be support for the > >> built-in apps. Probably by gutting a scrap 200 and dropping the ROM into > the > > > >Why not use the apps out of the connectiveity pack. It has the phone, > appointments, > >database, hp calc. > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:47:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I worked as a software engineer at HP from 1981 through 1984. After interviewing with lots of other companies, I was blown away by HP's small company decentralized concept. The division I interviewed at engineered the hardware, developed the software, manufactured, and marketed the HP 150 touchscreen. It was all in one large space. Further engineers really seemed to "run the place" -- in a bottom up kind of hierarchy. I left HP for a variety of personal and professional reasons (in part because I wasn't a great engineer, although I could have switched to marketing). I remain with great respect for the environment, the intelligence and ethics of HP people. However, it seems HP has chosen (been forced?) to take a different road to grow and compete in the current market place. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:49:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as you say have a larger screen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:54:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: doublekey utility Comments: To: Jasper de Jong In-Reply-To: <371CD0ED.475B948F@wxs.nl>; from Jasper de Jong on Tue, Apr 20, 1999 at 09:09:33PM +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't recall adding such a file to SUPER. But I will! :) -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:10:20 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Hal Goldstein writes: > < it. > It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. > The only thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be > a lot easier to use at a desk.>> > > I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as you > say have a larger screen. Ideally, for desktop use, one should be able to connect both a larger screen and a larger keyboard. A real docking station would be really nice to have. But for travel its the ideal size. It goes right in the pocket along with the toothbrush and you are ready to go. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <199903210648.PNR01280@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on > it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only > thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot > easier to use at a desk. Nothing's wrong with it. I also type with great speed on it. (Granted, with SmartCaps turned on.) And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop keyboard I've ever used. I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful. But it's nowhere close. And it's not even the hardware's fault. The response to keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:52:21 GMT Reply-To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Organization: Goeldi Engineering Subject: Infrared Port Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jeteye, if I had one :-( Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp). Does anybody have any idea or suggestion? -goe- This message sent using EMUmail. http://EmuMail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:43:43 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP > nowhere close. And it's not even the hardware's fault. The response to > keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like seconds> three seconds>... Is there a way to speed it up? I thought CE was supposed to address the hardware directly which should speed it up. Is there a setting for that can be changed? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:58:21 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Fluff: re: monkey sonnets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi wrote: > There is a similar famous one: If you take an infinite number of monkeys and > give them each a typewriter to bang on (or a 200LX, will last longer...) > and allocate an infinite amount of time to them doing what they do, > is it possible that they will come up with Shakespeare's sonnets? :) And in case you haven't seen the standard answer: We already an infinite number of monkeys banging on keyboards - it's called the Internet (or in some older versions of the answer, Usenet) br jez ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:42:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Infrared Port MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Did IBM change something about their infrared ports for the 760's? My ThinkPad 365XD offers several modes of operation. Generic mode works just great with my HP 200LX. From the online help file: Infrared Advanced Setup (Some options may not be available, depending on your model.) Operating mode Select ThinkPad/Generic mode or Sharp mode depending on the system you are communicating with. ThinkPad mode This mode supports up to 1.15Mbps data transfer via a ThinkPad unique interface. Select this mode when you transfer the data from/to another ThinkPad. This mode exploits DMA channels as well as I/O address and IRQ to support high speed transfer. Generic mode This mode supports up to 115Kbps data transfer via the COM port interface. Select this mode when you use a generic infrared communication device, such as Hewlett-Packard(**) Omnibook(**) 300 or HP LX100/LX200(**) computer, or Mind Path(**) Remote Control IR55 F/X. The COM port must be assigned for this mode. Note. The ThinkPad infrared device driver automatically selects the appropriate mode (ThinkPad mode or generic mode) depending on the communicating computer's infrared capability. Sharp mode This mode supports 9600bps data transfer via the COM port interface. Select this mode when you use Sharp(**) Wizard PC(**) or other compatible computers.The COM port must be assigned for this mode. >From: Stephan Goeldi ÝSMTP:stephan.goeldi@DATACOMM.CH¨ >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:52 AM > >While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jeteye, if I had one :-( >Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:34:57 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Survey This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your responses. 1. Would you be interested in a 486SX replacement motherboard for the 200LX? If no, why not? 2. What would you be willing to pay for such an upgrade? Please be reasonable. 3. What features would you like? 4. Would the fact that a third party developed it affect the decision to purchase such a product? 5. How would you use such an upgrade? To respond, use the reply option, make sure you are replying only to a123456@bitstream.net and not the HPLX-L list. List replies will not be considered or counted. Let me thank you again for your response. Happy 200LXing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:47:50 +0200 Reply-To: molitor@moli.franken.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Reinhard Mueller Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX In-Reply-To: <199903210632.PNR03578@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > 1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could > see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would > have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible > way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL > specs. I think that 1/2 to 1/3 of the battery lifetime is still acceptable. When using rechargebles, i think they should last at least one day, so they can be recharged over night (when the user recharges, too). I have to recharge every one to two weeks now (recharging long before i get a battery-low message), so the factor 1/3 would be absolutely no problem to me (and probably to a lot of other people, who do not use their HPLX constantly 10 hours a day without AC- Adapter). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:01:48 GMT Reply-To: neil@skipper.demon.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Subject: Re: Looking for a Utility In-Reply-To: <19990420.210154.3750.1.zimm4@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:50:28 -0500, Larry Zimmerman wrote: >The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on >www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII. Can't give better directions >to it right now. I went looking, but failed to find anything when searching for asciisort, and searching for ascii returned hundreds of hits, none of which really seemed to match your description. Is this a DOS program? Could you post = the actual zip file name which should be more easily located. --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:50:31 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: molitor@moli.franken.de Reinhard Mueller writes: > > 1/2 to 1/3 is quite a bit. It would affect how well a person could > > see the screen too outside and in low light so the backlight would > > have to be used more. Its a nice idea though. Glad there's a possible > > way to do it. Maybe he would post the inverter diagram and the EL > > specs. > > I think that 1/2 to 1/3 of the battery lifetime is still acceptable. > When using rechargebles, i think they should last at least one day, > so they can be recharged over night (when the user recharges, > too). I have to recharge every one to two weeks now (recharging > long before i get a battery-low message), so the factor 1/3 would be > absolutely no problem to me (and probably to a lot of other people, > who do not use their HPLX constantly 10 hours a day without AC- > Adapter). But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging 6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight charge while you sleep. And if you have no access to power over the day there's no way to recoup the loss. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:38:12 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Another POST/LX idea MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, Andreas and list, There is another thing what I miss in POST/LX. It's a tiny thing for you, but a big thing for me: It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep after downloading all email (Goin' Postal does that, for example). So I could go out of the room, let POST/LX download all the HPLX-L mail while I can do another thing than watching the palmtop during these ten minutes. And when I hear the beep I could come back and shut down the connection to my ISP. So I could save time and/or money. And it would be good if there was a possibility to let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:58:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:54:07 +0100 (BST) 08m37s ago ... On Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:45:30 -0700 (CST), Daniel Hertrich wrote: > And when I hear the beep I could come back and > shut down the connection to my ISP. > So I could save time and/or money. > > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. Daniel, how did you set up POST/LX to work this way? I only *know* the way I have it which is it automatically hangs up the ISP connection when it has downloaded all mail, and stays in POST/LX, which seems precisely the opposite to what you describe. Regards, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:28:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Looking for a Utility Comments: To: zimm4@JUNO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I use a program called CONVERT (found at the same www.shareware.com as CONVR803.ZIP) on my LX to deal with problem data files and comma delimited files....I don't know if this is what you're looking for...."ASCII" turns up a lot of listings in shareware.com, so I don't really know what ASCIIsort does, by comparison. CONVERT lets you manipulate input data files of various formats by letting you specify the type of changes you want using a control file that you edit. Not the easiest program to use, but easily the most versatile I've seen. - Longden Larry Zimmerman on 04/20/99 06:50:28 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to zimm4@JUNO.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Looking for a Utility I've got a Win95 utility that I use to reformat data files and I really like it. I would, however, like it even more if it were something usable on the 200lx with batch files. The program can reformat any fixed length or comma delimitted file according to the user's specifications in separate text configuration files. I played around with making a similar tool in Perl and it works fine but still not suitable to the palmtop. I've looked in my "Learn C in a Nanosecond" books and they make my head spin. It occurred to me that maybe something already exists or someone here could point me in a direction for figuring out how to "roll my own." The program I'm using now is called ASCIIsort and I just found it on www.shareware.com with a search of ASCII. Can't give better directions to it right now. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:37:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Can we influence HP? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, I'm a pessimist: > How do we convince HP that they need products like that to maintain their image? Their image is already shot...what's to maintain? > ...or we can remain silent and let the vision die. IMO, the vision died (at HP) a long time ago. We're living on the borrowed time purchased by a good design and a talented following. If we ever get a new dream machine, I doubt that HP has the vision or gumption to be the one responsible. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:22:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Lotus Notes -> HP (via ISP) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > If You have Lotus Notes and whant the mail that is coming there to > go to Your HP, then You just write a Agent that forward Your mail > to the email adress that You use with WWW/LX > (Its quite easy to create a Agent in Lotus Notes, ask me if You run > into problem) Tomas, If the IT guys haven't changed your default permissions on the server, it's ever easier than that to forward your Notes mail to your other e-mail address: 1. Select your own name in the main Notes Public Address Book. 2. Click on "Edit Person". 3. In the field "Forwarding address", type in the e-mail address you want your mail to be re-routed to, for example: foo@bar.com 4. Click on "Save and Close". From that point on, any mail sent to your Notes address will instead arrive at your forwarding address. To change it back, simply go back and delete the entry from "Forwarding address". Can you write an agent that will send a *copy* of each Notes message to another address? What are the step-by-step instructions to do that? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:25:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. To start post/lx like this: www.exe -d "!post" This will the modem hang up, without quitting post/lx. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:27:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > And when I hear the beep I could come back and > shut down the connection to my ISP. There is a preonline and postonline option which could be used to run a batch file BEEP tupe program. And as Tony, noted, my setup hangs up automatically after the online run. I believe it can be setup to stay online so that you could use HV for browsing but mine normally hangs up the phoneline. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:32:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree... John Musielewicz wrote: > > This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard > for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your > responses. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:39:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: 100LX Memory improvement? Howdy all, I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical restriction that kept you from plugging in.... Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and solder things into it ;-) Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of a 100LX? I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" ÝI may be downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch (OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-) ¨) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG unit to have the ability to mirror my Ývastly Thaddeus-improved¨ 200LX. Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its PC card adapter..... Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory "injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book and Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter.... Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable Ýas long as it worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever went bad...¨. Is this a "pipe dream"? --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:39:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Howdy again all.... Looking for something I had once: Shareware that you could load in Win95 Ýand I *hope* Win98¨ that would let you link to and back up your LX while it happily set in server mode. Downloaded Zip from SUPER, last night and it got stuck. Don't know if it was a prob. in Win98, the file contents (I hate when a part of a file "looks" like a command and gums up a transfer) or "operator headspace". I don't think it was the latter, because I had success w/ the Root and several other directories from my palmtop going to a set-aside directory (HPBACK1 or the like) on my laptop's C: drive... Was the program called "TransFile 200" or something like that and where is it? <>. What's the "best" (and fastest) solution(s)? TIA, --tim PS. My goal is to do a fast back-up of my palmtop's C: drive etc. Ýit's bigger than my CF card, even if I temporarily move all the files off of the card... Not sure I want to use xcopy and I don't have a parallel port adapter for my HP yet¨. CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:47:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On the other hand, I for one, would rather just see a summarization (if there is one). I can't handle anymore email traffic as it is...let alone an endless stream of three pagers followed by the ubiquitous "Me too". Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject line)? My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the phone bill damage is done). - Longden David Ness on 04/21/99 11:32:16 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to David Ness To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: Survey I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree... John Musielewicz wrote: > > This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard > for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your > responses. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:41:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 01:32pm CDT, the following was written: > I understand that you want replies to a particular mailbox, but I, for > one, would just as soon read others' replies here as well, and I > would be happy to post a copy of mine here if others agree... Ditto. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:56:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX re: >But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge >batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day >you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging >6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight >charge while you sleep. I've got a few Radio Shack Chargers now and don't often rely on the LX to do the charging {I even own ABC/LX but can't currently find it, cause I used it so infrequently). I imagine I'm not alone among the ranks of those who'd rotate a few sets of AA's through a charger and even keep a second set with me. How many on this list own ONLY two rechargeable AAs? OK, be honest now ;-) I'll admit to tossing quite a few of the "Renewals" and replacing them with more ÝI don't seem to get 100 charges before they leak--Thank God, you're not supposed to charge them in a normal charger or an LX!¨. I also have quite a few "experimental" btty's around, since I wanted to see for myself which lasted longer etc. Ýmy results were inconclusive due to lack of testing standardization, proper "scientific" data logging and comparison such is the burden of being busy ;-) ¨. --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:57:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Transfile 200 is available from the HP website: http://www.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.exe.html It works on Win95 and NT 4.0 and sounds like what you're after, tho it may not be the fastest solution since it's limited to a speed of 57K (tho sometimes works even slower than that). - Longden "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" on 04/21/99 11:39:04 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Howdy again all.... Looking for something I had once: Shareware that you could load in Win95 Ýand I *hope* Win98¨ that would let you link to and back up your LX while it happily set in server mode. Downloaded Zip from SUPER, last night and it got stuck. Don't know if it was a prob. in Win98, the file contents (I hate when a part of a file "looks" like a command and gums up a transfer) or "operator headspace". I don't think it was the latter, because I had success w/ the Root and several other directories from my palmtop going to a set-aside directory (HPBACK1 or the like) on my laptop's C: drive... Was the program called "TransFile 200" or something like that and where is it? <>. What's the "best" (and fastest) solution(s)? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:58:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Survey Missed the original post (with the survey, or the URL for it) .... anyone care to resend it to me, off-list? I'd love to help influence someone to build a Pentium LX ;-) --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:01:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <8825675A.00673CAA.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from Longden Loo at "Apr 21, 99 11:47:40 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject > line)? You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the > phone bill damage is done). GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:04:43 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: 100LX Memory improvement? > Howdy all, > > I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to > the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical restriction > that kept you from plugging in.... > > Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and > solder things into it ;-) > > Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of > a 100LX? > > I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" ÝI may be > downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch > (OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-) ¨) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG unit > to have the ability to mirror my Ývastly Thaddeus-improved¨ 200LX. > > Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its > PC card adapter..... > > Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory > "injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it > sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book and > Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter.... > > Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even > if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable Ýas long as it > worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever > went bad...¨. > > Is this a "pipe dream"? > > --tim > I seem to remember the same thing, that the hornet chip can support two pcmcia slots. A CF slot is just a subset of a pcmcia slot and is covered by part of the same specification if I am not mistaken. There are probably only a few lines that are not common to both slots so it should be just a case of wiring the CF in parallel with the present slot, with the exception of the few different lines. Someone with the hornet chip spec and pinout should be able to identify the needed pins. Of course this is a 2-3 hour wiring job on VERY small contacts, very close together. I do know of a person that rewired the CF slot in a pc110 to the top pcmcia slot so that CF modem and NIC cards would work. The CF slot in the pc110 is a little pre-standard so it doesn't work with anything but memory type cards. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:00:15 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Can we influence HP? > IMO, the vision died (at HP) a long time ago. > > We're living on the borrowed time purchased by a good design and a talented > following. > > If we ever get a new dream machine, I doubt that HP has the vision or gumption > to be the one responsible. > > - Longden The borrowed time probably has more to do with the fact that the line that produces the 200lx can't easily be converted to something else or it probably would have already been done. Everyone had better hope that no HP CE machine ever catches on big or they might just convert the production line to making them. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:58:29 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX > But you have to take into consideration just how long it takes to recharge > batteries in the 200LX. Even if you just use it an hour or two a day > you are doubling the drain on the batteries, so now instead of charging > 6 hours you are charging ten hours. This means its no longer an overnight > charge while you sleep. And if you have no access to power over the > day there's no way to recoup the loss. > > John If the backlight is valuable to you then you invest in a couple of sets of batteries and an external charger. Then the time to charge the batteries is reduced to the time it takes to replace them. That would also allow for another charger at work with another set of batteries so that the only issue would be that you have to be near a set when they get low. This is basically the same issue that other computer users face but the HP200lx has the marked advantage that the batteries and external charger are off the shelf items and quite reasonably priced. In comparison, I was recently quite happy to find spare batteries for my pc110 at $35 each, compared to the normal $50- $70 and these are camcorder batteries so they are at least somewhat common. I wish more laptops computers would use standard camcorder batteries. I may just buy a Ricoh Magio since it uses two of the same batteries as my pc110. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:30:12 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. > > How will you use it? ... > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > Sometimes I get some BIG files attached to my mail. If I could see the size of the msg then I could determine that the msg have an attachment. Or maybe also some sort of attachment indication could be added that tells me it have a attachment. When You highlight a message a Repl or Del etc is displayed. Couldnt the attachment and size status also be shown here. Well, the best would be a kilobytes indication and attachment indication on the corresponding message in Your POST/lx message list. By a glance I could se that a attachment is present. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:30:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: How many are we on this list?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How many people read the list including digest readers? Does the administrator know? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:30:09 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Tomas Moberg wrote: > > > > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. > > Would you go for a v e r y s l o w message list to get that? POST/LX NO! > Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it > but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too". > Any suggestions? Others have it! ;-> Actualy I have seen it in CC:mail and Lotus Notes and I have found it usefull and timesaving to be able to tell wich msg that contains a attachment. But its absolutely not a must. Look in to it when You have too much time to kill. :-> > > * Ability to sort in size order. From time to time I clean up my > > messages to save disk space. If they were size ordered then I could > > just judge the first ones for removal. > > So you remove the big messages and not the unimportant ones? I remove the big unimportent messages first. I rather delete one 10k message then 10 1K messages > Andreas /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:13:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Interesting 200LX Use Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maybe not useful to many, but interesting: http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:16:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP In-Reply-To: <199903210943.PNR04389@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > Is there a way to speed it up? I thought CE was supposed to address > the hardware directly which should speed it up. Is there a setting for > that can be changed? The way to speed it up, as far as I can see, is to buy a new machine with a faster CPU. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:08:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: PNRTI/PNR & Comm Port Also news.hplx.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It seems that when I run PNRTI and the PNR and then exit PNR that my serial port is mysteriously turned on :( I don't have the serial port option checked under set up. Has anybody noticed this? Am I just being anal retentive about my serial port being on ? Battery life is so precious on these things that I hate to waste a microvolt. Also, several people have replied to me about how to use PNR and LXNNTP to access both news.hplx.net and my ISP's newserver. Receiving posts from news.hplx.net is not a problem, but the posting is :( When you write a post in PNR, iI is saved in an outgoing file that LXNNTP looks for the next time that it is run and then this file is sent off into usenet land. Because news.hplx.net is a 'closed' server, it would require an additional outgoing file to be sent directly to news.hplx.net and not to my isp's news server. I hope this makes sense. Am I basically going to have to run 2 duplicate setups of PNR & LXNNTP to accomplish the sending of mail to news.hplx.net? 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:56:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 01:47pm CDT, the following was written: > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject > line)? Goin' Postal _can_ handle that at the server level. Okay, I threw a plug in for Steve also . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:12 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HV question Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, thank you for all your suggestions to solve this problem. > > Is there a possibility to say HV, that it must > > unzip a html before loading it (if the html is > > called by a link _or_ by input of a file name)? But unfortunately I forgot to mention that also HTMLs opened by a link in the "upper" HTML should be unzipped and opened Still suggestions? ;-) TNX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:15 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Infrared Port Comments: To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Stephan, > Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp). My girlfriend has got a Highscreen "Advance II" notebook (CPU Tillamook 233MHz). Its Infrared port can be set to IrDA and ASKIR, just like yours, and if I set it to IrDA, it can communicate with my 200LX using Transfile Win200 on the notebook and filer on the LX. I don't use any drivers, neither IrDA-drivers on the palmtop nor HPSIR-drivers on the notebook. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:23:19 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Infrared Port (2) Comments: To: stephan.goeldi@datacomm.ch MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi again, > While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jetey e > , if I had one :-( Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own: It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card) with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it. It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard. This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board. In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so I can use COM2 with the IR device. Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR. Here only HPSIR seems to work. If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board, I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:29:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: HTML editor/viewer for LX In-Reply-To: <199904212030.WAA07895@d1o13.telia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII anyone know of a plain jane HTML editor/Viewer for DOS-LX palmtops doesnt need GFX support or color just a editor/viewer that can read HTML code with a cut and paste feature (something like qedit would rock!) anyone?? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:50:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Comments: To: RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL Why don't you use LLRA? When properly configured it works well enough under Win95 for quick file transfers. Since you invoke it from DOS you can use batch files to automate repetitive tasks. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:05:41 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: ReÝ2¨: pushkeys Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <199904201737.RAA18606@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Tue, 20 Apr 1999 17:37:02 GMT Daniel Hertrich =e9crivait: > Don't agree: > It's also a hidden file in d:\bin on my German 4MB 200LX! If I remember, it was already in the French 100LX. (probability: 90%, I don't remember that I tested an US version during that period) BTW : When I discovered it, I disassembled it to understand what was this undocumented program, and failed (don't understood that the requested file was the Macro file :-( ) Fortunately, the author, HP's Raan Young, published the infos in a club paper (of the Dutch club, or HPCC's Datafile, don't remember). shortly after. Info published one or two months later in the PTP. Jacques. ------------------------------ The last man connected to the Net was browsing some old WebSites. "You have new mail" appeared on the screen... ------------------------------ adapted from a short Fredric Brown's story ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:04:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Fluff: A new toy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, GP development just ground to a halt today. It's my aniversary and my wife bought me a Furby. Who could know that a reasonably technical mind could be facinated by a silly little bag of plastic gears going 'do be do be dooooo'... :-) Of course, after reading that a pair of them will communicate via infared I started eyeing the side of my LX with renewed interest... Don't worry, I'll keep working on GP.... But don't be surprised if you download email with GPv4 and the Furby your daughter got last xmas suddenly goes "ohhhh, email..., me read..." :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >> I agree, but I would rather type on a fuller sized keyboard, and as you >> say have a larger screen. > >Ideally, for desktop use, one should be able to connect both a larger >screen and a larger keyboard. A real docking station would be really nice >to have. But for travel its the ideal size. It goes right in the pocket along >with the toothbrush and you are ready to go. Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station, and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:30:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" re: >Why don't you use LLRA? Is it expensive? Or is this a dumb Q. (maybe it's abandoned/free-ware out there)? Maybe because I have an old 100LX and the 200LX, I "own" two copies of the program and can copy it to my PC, as long as I don't use it on 3 computers at the same time? I've purchased (in the past) several file transfer programs .... didn't want to buy yet another, just because it was the built-in for the LX.... Are there any 3d party (commercial) programs that will synch w/ LLRA? I'm thinking of PC Anywhere, etc. Ýor do they hold to their exclusive formats¨. I'm going to dig thru tape back-ups of an OLD computer that's long gone to find my copies of my other software..... I remember it not working well w/ the LX cable, it came w/ a proprietary null modem cable of its own design Ýyet the manual SAID it would work w/ even homemade null modem configurations .... just not as well...¨. After looking at the last paragraph ... it may take me longer than a few days! MAYBE I should buy a trans-digital parallel port adapter and use a Zip drive Ý1) do they work OK on a double-speed palmtop and 2) does anybody know if it'll work w/ the Zip+ (plus) drive? ¨. Any cheap sources for the adapter? --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:30:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured > > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject > > line)? > > You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) You mean like Post/LX does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) > > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the > > phone bill damage is done). > > GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail. Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it? Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:50:30 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Fw: Differences between dosminix and 'regular' minix? This showed up re Minix about resizing the disk... -----Original Message----- From: Kees J Bot Newsgroups: comp.os.minix Date: 21. april 1999 09:40 Subject: Re: Differences between dosminix and 'regular' minix? >In article <371BA1E9.7181C3E6@NOSPAM.ucla.edu>, >Dimi Shahbaz wrote: >> >>... >>requires the use of the "regular" minix), so it would be helpful to know >>what differences in terms of implementation, processes, threads, use, >>etc. there exists between the two version. Are the kernels identical? > >There is absolutely no difference at all between all the Minix variants. >The 16 and 32 bit variants use the same source, and the partition/ >dosminix variants of the same "bitness" use exactly the same binaries >and kernel. They only differ on what disk driver is used while running. > >>If I make a kernel modification, can I expect it to behave identically >>with the same mod on "regular" minix? > >Yes. > >>Secondly, is there a way to resize the dosminix filesystem(s), >>particularly the / partition? > >How to resize the /usr partition is described in the dosminix(8) manual >page. Resizing / is a not so easy. You have to make a blank new "disk" >with mkfile under DOS. Under Minix you partition it, create two file >systems for / and /usr, mount them on /mnt and /mnt/usr, and copy the >entire system with 'cpdir -v / /mnt'. > >(You may want to reconsider resizing /. The root file system is seen as >expendable. It is quite active, because pipes are created on it. It's >small so that it can be exchanged for a floppy if need be. Dosminix >is a different in this respect, of course. Making backups of that >system against weird Minix crashes is a trivial DOS copy command.) >-- >Kees J. Bot, Systems Programmer, Sciences dept., Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam >Minix: http://www.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ ftp://ftp.cs.vu.nl/pub/minix/ >Minix-vmd: http://www.Minix-vmd.org/ ftp://ftp.Minix-vmd.org/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:30:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, > On the other hand, I for one, would rather just see a summarization (if there is > one). > > I can't handle anymore email traffic as it is...let alone an endless stream of > three pagers followed by the ubiquitous "Me too". > > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject > line)? > > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the > phone bill damage is done). Yes, But you can download headers only, and filter them into a JUNK folder, then go to JUNK folder and CTRL-D ALL the messages there, i.e. tell Post/LX to delete these suckers ON THE SERVERS. That will be it! You'll be downloading only enough to determine the content is worthy of deletion, and then then next pass will wipe these from the server. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:04:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: 100LX Memory improvement? Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" I have a 700LX that has 2 pcmcia ports. One holds the DTP-2 datacard for mobile phones. I removed it and tried with both a CF card and a SRAM card. No dice, nothing showed up in filer or dos. Needs a driver? Mack? Have a nice day! Franklin Libretto 50CT + Nokia 2110. SMS/voice: 917 51641. -----Original Message----- From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: 21. april 1999 20:39 Subject: 100LX Memory improvement? >Howdy all, > >I vaguely remember someone on the list saying the Hornet chip and guts to >the 100LX could support *2* PCMCIA cards (it was just a physical restriction >that kept you from plugging in.... > >Here's a question to all you guys who regularly take the 100LX apart and >solder things into it ;-) > >Would there be any way to rig a Compact Flash (CF) card into the insides of >a 100LX? > >I primarily use my 200LX and go the 100 for "multitasking" ÝI may be >downloading HUGE emails and want to type a memo, whilst flat on the couch >(OK, I'm lazy sometimes ;-) ¨) but would love to have my "poor" 1 MEG unit >to have the ability to mirror my Ývastly Thaddeus-improved¨ 200LX. > >Just a thought that came to me over lunch as I stared at my CF card and its >PC card adapter..... > >Figured it would be nice to DoubleSpeed my 100LX *AND* give it a CF memory >"injection" at the same time, 'cause it seems pretty hard to use it >sometimes w/ less than 256K memory left over, AFTER moving my Phone Book and >Appts to the CF card I do have in a PC-card adapter.... > >Just thought I'd mention it'd be something I'd be willing to pay for, even >if the CF card were hard-wired or otherwise unrecoverable Ýas long as it >worked to its full ability in the 100LX and could be replaced if it ever >went bad...¨. > >Is this a "pipe dream"? > >--tim > >CPT Tim Raymond >III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX >W: 254-287-7608 > >--------------------------------- >There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. >email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil >71250.1550@compuserve.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:37:38 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP > Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected > node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station, > and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-) > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:49:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 05:30pm CDT, the following was written: > Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it? > Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP > provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on > subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder. Actually, it looks at the headers and it happens very quickly! 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:54:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904212230.PAA17952@ftel.net> from A Meshar at "Apr 21, 99 03:30:07 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail. > > Really, GP sits connected online reading EACH EMAIL to determine if to d/l it? > Where is the phonebill damage relief? Well, in truth you did not state that GP > provides any relief. Post/LX let's you d/l headers only, and filter based on > subject or other content of headers that something belongs in a kill folder. Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the entire message unless it's supposed to. GP also supports a 'headers-only' mode where it'll index the messages and you can pick and choose which to download, which to skip over, and which to delete on your next connection. Filters work in either headers-only or normal mode. In headers-only, you can use the filters to instantly download or delete certain messages, while the remainder are just indexed for retrieval later if you choose. In normal mode, you can use filters to skip over or delete certain messages, while the remainder are downloaded. In reality, I don't think Avi and myself are competing that much - we both have good products with slightly different markets. If you need newsgroups and web browsing, GP would not make sense for you and WWW/LX would be an excellent choice. If you only need email and want to conserve your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you. In the real world, I know for a fact that GP has gotten LX's out of desk drawers - I like to think that those people will be so impressed with their "gee, I didn't realize it was still so useful!" LX that they will end up buying a new unit from Thaddeus and eventually get WWW/LX for it too. A win for the entire community.. Of course, we do like to get that little plug in there for our own product from time to time... :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:01:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fluff: A new toy In-Reply-To: <19990421220404.4E75C9611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote: > Well, GP development just ground to a halt today. It's my aniversary > and my wife bought me a Furby. Who could know that a reasonably > technical mind could be facinated by a silly little bag of plastic > gears going 'do be do be dooooo'... :-) Oh, for crying out loud... all of the service dispatchers at work got those around Christmas time, and I almost went mad. Please tell me you didn't pay more than $1000 for it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:38:27 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net Comments: To: Jeff Johns Jeff Johns writes: > Is anyone writing posts to news.hplx.net using PNR and LXNNTP? Well, ... yes :-) > If so, how are you going about doing it? With Rod Whitby's help, I am able to access my > local news server and the access news.hplx.net to download news for reading, > but I can't seem to figure out how to be able to post to news.hplx.net and > also to my ISP's local news server. Anyone want to offer some guidance? LXNNTP just tries to post all outstanding replies to each server you connect to. I connect to news.hplx.net, and it accepts any hp200.* posts, and rejects any others (which get eventually posted when I connect to the other server). A bit inelegant, but it works for me :-) -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:13:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Interesting 200LX Use In-Reply-To: <19990421151339.F6236@palmtop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote: > Maybe not useful to many, but interesting: > http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm I'd like to add the obligatory "Let's see somebody run a nuclear spectroscopy system on a Windows CE machine" now. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:12:10 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: replacing MBoard Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I would like the MB replaced with something faster yet we seem to be in a position between a rock and a hard place regarding screens if I remember Hals post from a while ago correctly. Seems HP wont supply screens to unauthorised companies. Backlighting has been a favourite topic for ages.. My point is that the most fragile part of the LX and probably the first that will NEED to be upgraded is the screen if/when HPLX production ceases. For the techo's amongst us.. Is it possible to create a Motherboard that has both CGA and VGA capabilities so new screens can come later when needed? My 0.02c Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:24:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: replacing MBoard In-Reply-To: <1287386166-8921901@talent.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Russell Hemery wrote: > My point is that the most fragile part of the LX and probably the > first that will NEED to be upgraded is the screen if/when HPLX > production ceases. Actually, I think the keyboard is more fragile than the screen. The screen doesn't tend to break under normal use... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:21:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: HTML editor/viewer for LX In-Reply-To: from "Sputnik" at Apr 21, 99 05:29:06 pm Content-Type: text > anyone know of a plain jane HTML editor/Viewer for DOS-LX palmtops doesnt > need GFX support or color just a editor/viewer that can read HTML code > with a cut and paste feature (something like qedit would rock!) anyone?? Well, uh. Qedit works great. Personally, I use one of the three vi clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit. YMMV. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:26:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yes. I have 2 LXs, a 1Mb and a 2Mb...and I have a couple of 512Kb SRAM cards. I quite like the idea of WWW/LX, but I'll wait to get an upgrade to 32/63 from Rundel before I try the look/see. Meantime I have GP on the 2Mb system (the 1Mb does not really have space for the mail I get!), and I use a 33.6 modem, it gets mail faster than Outlook client does on my P133 laptop (OK, it cannot read the attachments on many). So I can at least see if there is "trouble at t'mill" and read much of it (or bin it without downloading). With the LX's instant on, it is a much better bet for a quick look-see in an airport lounge than my laptop (and I have a Toshiba Tecra 720, a Tecra 550 a Libretto 50CT....). In fact in Europe it would be smaller than the bag of phone adapters... So I'd say that this kind of software is *exactly* what is right for the LX - don't compete with the corporate arena, this is a niche market, the niche is IMHO determined by size, battery life, and above all the availability of software. I'm glad that both Avi and Steve have products in this market, they both have features we'd all expect. But let's not have a shooting match. We (the customer) will decide which is right for our work habits, $$$ and configuration. All you (the authors) need to do is write software, and if *no-one* buys/appreciates it worry. Please don't worry if *some* of us choose someone else's software. We may just be different. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:28:18 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: 4 MB Memory module-again Comments: To: Eben Rubin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB > unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a > 2X speed upgrade, and requires no software. > > I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know. > Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself. > Eben Can it be used with a 4MB 200LX? Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:30:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT hi david quick queston. how do i fix a loose enter key? thanks tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:34:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Fluff: A new toy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hmm, now what would the shrinks say to your wife buyng a Furby ? I've been sitting here so long it's now my 40th birthday (by 30 minutes). Dear Doctor, if I get a Furby from my wife as a present do I : (a) Write an interface for it for the LX (b) Switch off the PC and talk to the wife (c) Switch off the PC and talk to the Furby ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 16:45:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <950F2CFCC55AD211A4750000F845B143019C7C86@ukz249.ggr.co.uk> from "Brown, William" at "Apr 22, 99 00:26:56 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > With the LX's instant on, it is a much better bet for a quick look-see > in an airport lounge than my laptop (and I have a Toshiba Tecra 720, a > Tecra 550 a Libretto 50CT....). I can personally vouch for this, having taken a number of trips where I left my laptop at home. I can pop into one of these airport 'business cubicles', download my mail, and be ready to catch my next flight before most of the other people have gotten their laptops plugged in and booted. And there's nothing better for airports which have stand-up payphones with data jacks. I can't even imagine trying to balance a laptop on one of these things without dropping it on the ground. I've even been in Schipol (ps?) airport in Amsterdam with a Konnexx acoustic coupler tied to the handset and the LX in my hand (getting some rather suspicious looks from security and the other passengers) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:07:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve. The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course). - Longden Steven Lawson on 04/21/99 12:01:26 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Steven Lawson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question > Maybe this is a good time to solicit a plug for POST/LX. Can it be configured > to delete messages at the server end based on a filter criteria (for the subject > line)? You mean like Goin' Postal does? (sorry, couldn't pass up a GP plug) > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the > phone bill damage is done). GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 01:17:49 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Task Bar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi guys At the top of the recent X-Findermania (and a justified one, a great program, a serious candidate to the LX-Oscar for the best palmtop program when we in the list join together - cyber way - in the AFLXA - Academy for Fine LX-Arts ) someone asked what was Task Bar and were to find it. Well I found it in my most recent fishing trip on the unknown seas of japanese LX sites. It seems to me to be another menu program but a very fine one - look and feel of the M$ Windows 95/98 - which deserves our outmost attention in order to discover what it realy does (documents in japanese of course). In my excitement I forgott to take note of the URL (sorry) but the name of the author is CARGO. Maybe Toshiki Sasabe will find him. I'm sending a copy to Mitch in separate mail. Regards Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal Cell Phone + 351 931 555590 Work + 351 2 9981532 (direct, from 9 a.m. to 6 p.m., local time) abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:27:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: 4 MB Memory module-again Comments: To: Eben Rubin In-Reply-To: <371D3D28.32FD@pol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm interested. How much would it cost to ship it to.. Lynnwood, WA 98037 Thanks! Brian S kaervek@ix.netcom.com At 10:51 PM 4/20/99 -0400, you wrote: >I have an "extra" new/unused 4MB plug-in memory module. It'll make a 6MB >unit out of a 2MB 200LX, or 5 MB from a 1MB unit. It'll work fine with a >2X speed upgrade, and requires no software. > >I've lowered the price to $50. Let me know. > >Otherwise, it stays in stock till I get a second 200LX for myself. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:31:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steve D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steve D." Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I fixed mine a couple of weeks ago. I peeled off the keyboard mask and underneath it was pretty obvious what was broken. The keys are held in place by two very fragile looking pieces of plastic. One of those pieces was broken. I used glue from my wifes hot-glue gun and repaired the little piece. It worked just fine. I imagine there are other substances that would work better than hot-glue. But the bottom line is that you'll have to glue plastic to plastic. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: aguze118 To: Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 6:30 PM Subject: Loose Enter Key > hi david > quick queston. how do i fix a loose enter key? > thanks > tony > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:36:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key In-Reply-To: <015801be8c57$80f5fa40$14441004@harrahs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Steve D. wrote: > I fixed mine a couple of weeks ago. I peeled off the keyboard mask and > underneath it was pretty obvious what was broken. The keys are held in > place by two very fragile looking pieces of plastic. One of those > pieces was broken. I used glue from my wifes hot-glue gun and repaired > the little piece. It worked just fine. I imagine there are other > substances that would work better than hot-glue. But the bottom line > is that you'll have to glue plastic to plastic. That pretty much sums it up. Superglue (cyanoacrylate) works as well... but what we really need is a steel-reinforced keyboard upgrade. Mack? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:30:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:14:43 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Shea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Re: Lotus Notes -> HP (via ISP) Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are the procedures for auto forward notes mail to other E-mail account: - @ your mailbox - Create-Agent - Agent Name, i.e. "Auto Forward Mail" - @ "When should this agent run?" Select "If New Mail has arrived" - Select "Simple" - Select "Add Action" - Select "Send Mail Message" - fill-up "To", "Subject" & "Body" - Select "Include copy of document" - Select "OK" - Save the Agent Above is the instruction given to me by our Notes admin. It works. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:21:38 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Shea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use it in win98 everyday, works perfectly. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:16:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <8825675A.00691736.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Longden Loo wrote: > Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve. > The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course). As far as I can tell, not only has the gauntlet been thrown, but the duel has already been fought. Or maybe it's still going on. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:44:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Task Bar In-Reply-To: <199904220019.BAA03597@tpone.telepac.pt>; from Antonio Queiroz Menezes on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 01:17:49AM +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > (documents in japanese of course). In my excitement I forgott to > take note of the URL (sorry) but the name of the author is CARGO. > Maybe Toshiki Sasabe will find him. I'm sending a copy to Mitch in > separate mail. It is a nice looking program, but can't be put on the SUPER Site until the docs are translated to English and the author agrees. We learned this long ago with Japanese authors. They make some very fine palmtop programs and we want to continue to have permission to distribute them. That doesn't keep you from experimenting of course: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm -- Mitch ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:37:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: HTML editor/viewer for LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 06:21pm CDT, the following was written: > Well, uh. Qedit works great. Personally, I use one of the three vi > clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit. > YMMV. While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:04:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Wow! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As a user of both WWW/LX and Goin' Postal, I can honestly say that Steve has implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the first time on a extremely high volume mailing list to which I subscribe (No, David it's not a porno list ) and I am extremely impressed with this feature! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:00:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 07:36pm CDT, the following was written: > That pretty much sums it up. Superglue (cyanoacrylate) works as well... > but what we really need is a steel-reinforced keyboard upgrade. Mack? > Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice than steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant ! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:15:03 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Shea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Re: Infrared Port (2) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please send me a copy too. Thanks. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 20:35:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: LXNNTP & news.hplx.net Comments: To: rwhitby@hplx.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 03:08am CDT, the following was written: > LXNNTP just tries to post all outstanding replies to each server you > connect to. I connect to news.hplx.net, and it accepts any hp200.* > posts, and rejects any others (which get eventually posted when I > connect to the other server). Okay! The lighbulb just came on above my head . I should change my setup to connect to news.hplx.net first then the othe ISP! So simple, but yet I was baffled :) At least I know something about law enforcement . Thanks for making me wake up and smell the coffee Rod. I'll post how it goes to the list. 73 es tnx Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:22:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key In-Reply-To: <199904220212.VAA04672x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice > than steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant ! Hey, you're the one next door to Mack... let him use a piece of your bullet-proof vest to make a new keyboard. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:29:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 09:22pm CDT, the following was written: > Hey, you're the one next door to Mack... let him use a piece of your > bullet-proof vest to make a new keyboard. Well, I do have a couple of vests whose date code has passed thus rendering them unsuitable for police work . 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:41:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key In-Reply-To: <199904220231.VAA11857x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Well, I do have a couple of vests whose date code has passed thus > rendering them unsuitable for police work . Hmm... it just might work... Seriously though... does anybody on the list have any idea about how to go about making a replacement keyboard for the 200LX? Presumably even just replacing the plastic key assemblies (the regular one and the numpad are separate) would be good for those who do lots of typing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:42:35 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: Bill Sprague MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've got a Zoom 14.4 kbps Pocket Modem for sale. It comes with a = serial > cable and a manual. It runs on a 9v battery (included)or A/C adapter > (not included). I'd like to get $36.00 plus $4.00 Priority Mail > shipping. Make me an offer. I have this modem and it is a fine unit. Radio Shack carries a 9v = lithium battery that works about 3 months for me going online a couple = times a day. Dave Shier has a custom short cable 12" or so that makes it = all quite compact. I don't need another modem, but I hope this helps a = potential user. =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:33:04 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Survey Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Psion 3mx uses an x86 CPU at, I think 28mhz. Unfortunately, not DOS. Backlit and I think it has good battery life. Didn't DR DOS get put in the public domain? Writing new ROMs might be more feasible. John Musielewicz wrote: > This is a short survey to judge the marketability of a replacement motherboard > for the Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer. Thank you for your > responses. > > 1. Would you be interested in a 486SX replacement motherboard for the > 200LX? If no, why not? > > 2. What would you be willing to pay for such an upgrade? Please be reasonable. > > 3. What features would you like? > > 4. Would the fact that a third party developed it affect the decision > to purchase such a product? > > 5. How would you use such an upgrade? > > To respond, use the reply option, make sure you are replying only > to a123456@bitstream.net and not the HPLX-L list. List replies will > not be considered or counted. Let me thank you again for your response. > Happy 200LXing. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:47:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 09:41pm CDT, the following was written: > Seriously though... does anybody on the list have any idea about how to go > about making a replacement keyboard for the 200LX? Presumably even just > replacing the plastic key assemblies (the regular one and the numpad are > separate) would be good for those who do lots of typing. I second that motion, I'm on my second keyboard in my LX. I don't understand why HP will not sell parts such as the keyboard. I can understand them not wanting to sell circuit boards and other internal items, but things like the keyboard that are prone to breakage seem like a natural item to sell, especially if they used a distributor network i.e. Thaddeus. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:21:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard anything > lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack? One of the brick walls I ran into was the price of the BIOS for the SC400 which is a necessary part as it would be hard to build a BIOS that would talk to the SC400 processors specific registers to handle all the special stuff such as IRDA, power control, screen control, keyboard, etc. We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing. This is to make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries. We have determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though. Another problem was finding equipment that can deal with the BGA (Ball Grid Array) processor. This is extremely different from a normal surface mount processor currently used by the HP200LX. It is quite expensive to farm out small quantity work for BGA based projects, which this would always be small in nature. We have the test board for the Elan SC400 to be able to hook it up to a screen and to a keyboard, but none of the test BIOS's that come with it can handle the keyboard or screen interface as they depend on having a VGA card with monitor and a regular keyboard. The Elan SC400 chip seems to be the only chip out there that can be used to make a 200LX replacement board as it is the only one with support for PCMCIA, LCD controller, matrix keyboard, APM, wakeup alarm, etc. It has the potential to be low enough power for use with AA batteries, but I hate to develop something and end up with a product that only gets 2-3 hours of battery life. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:30:23 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Task Bar Comments: To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt In-Reply-To: <199904220019.BAA03597@tpone.telepac.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have try it without succes. I have this message: file not found. Alain Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:23:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jerry Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jerry Johnson Subject: Re: (Fluff - but serious fluff!) Comments: To: Paal Rasmussen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I got the idea that RE was part of " in re" which I take to mean "concerning" I remember seeing it at the start law document and it was explained to mean "in the matter of"... (Maybe it migrated from law documents.) So... "regarding" would acceptable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:39:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: 100LX Memory improvement? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have a 700LX that has 2 pcmcia ports. One holds the DTP-2 datacard for > mobile phones. I removed it and tried with both a CF card and a SRAM card. > No dice, nothing showed up in filer or dos. Needs a driver? Mack? Maybe one of these days I'll find the time to open my 700LX and figure out what pins are different between the 2 PCMCIA slots and see where they come out of the Hornet chip. It might be possible to hand solder a CF card into the palmop, but finding space for it would be the biggest problem. It would also be a very time consuming task and might not work since a driver may be necessary, but hopefully not. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:29:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 10:21pm CDT, the following was written: > We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary > part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing. This is to > make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries. We have > determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though. I can vouch that he has been pondering the problem and working on it, but as Mack says iI would really be a real 'downer' to do all the development work, spend a bunch of money and just end up with a battery eater. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:42:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Woohoo! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks once again to Rod and the others who offered advice about my lxnntp set up. I can now sucessfully post to news.hplx.net and my ISP's news server without any problems. I made a spiffy little batch file that just allows me to type 'news' when I shell out of Goin' Postal and it sends any outgoing posts, receives any new posts from both servers then returns back to Goin' Postal and properly closes the connection :) 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:50:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: HTML editor/viewer for LX Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of > it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little > Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!? Try "mined" in Minix as it is closer to "pico" and loads up faster. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 22:52:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Actually would Kevlar(tm) or Spectra(tm) fibers be a better choice than > steel? They're lightweight, flexible and bullet resistant ! Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your palmtop! :-) Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:01:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key In-Reply-To: <015601be8c73$897dc000$0400a8c0@times2tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote: > Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your > palmtop! :-) "I'd like to see somebody try THAT with a Windows CE machine." -- Anonymous ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:01:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: mack@times2tech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 10:52pm CDT, the following was written: > Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your palmtop! > :-) Well..... It survived the tornado last year, but you know how overprotective of it I am , so I the bullet thing might not be a good idea! 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:24:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: TBLX :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on my LX if I can figure everything out! 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:40:05 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Infrared Port MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stephan Goeldi wrote: > Shouldn't it be possible to communicate with standard IrdA ports? I > have an IBM ThinkPad 760ED with 2 IrdA ports, one in front and one on > the back. Why is there no driver to communicate with the LX? The > ThinkPad supports IrdA and ASK (Sharp). There is an IrDA driver for printing and WWW/LX supports IrDA modems. What do you want to do with the IR port? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:39:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: TBLX :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-21 11:24pm CDT, the following was written: > This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on my > LX if I can figure everything out! If anyone else starts playing with the program or translates the docs, please post it to the list or let us know where the docs can be downloaded. I have already started messing with the .dat file, maybe I can figure part of it out. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:06:15 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: HTTPS on a hp200lx? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anybody have any knowledge on how the https (secure http) is handeled by Netscape and others. As I have been told there is no standard. But how does netscape know what method to use? Is there many "standards" to choose from? I have found that https is getting more and more frequent. I try to do all my bank stuff on Internet. And that forces me to use a desktop with Netscape. On WWW/LX, would this be out of the question due to the "no HV development" fact. Any experiences on how nettamer and others handles this? How does WinCE,Psion,PalmPilot etc handle this? I have temporarily solved it by telneting to a Unix account and there using LYNX wich handles https. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:20:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I second that motion, I'm on my second keyboard in my LX. I don't understand > why HP will not sell parts such as the keyboard. I can understand them not Probably because they use "just in time/just enough" manufacturing and don't produce "excess" keyboards or some other parts. They probably just use recycled/rebuilt in units that they fix. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 05:20:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Please tell me your not planning on deflecting bullets with your > > palmtop! :-) > > "I'd like to see somebody try THAT with a Windows CE machine." > -- Anonymous Did you mean POSTHUMOUS? (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:20:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Another Icon, Mitch? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey Mitch, if you still have some of that 'extra' time on your hands, how 'bout making us an icon for Task Bar ? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:18:05 +0200 Reply-To: darren@tuff.org.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Marshall Organization: Tuff Subject: Divide Overflow -- HELP!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I have an HP 700lx and as of recently each time I boot it and it tries to load 700 (the 700's equiv of 200) it crashes with a divide overflow error. Re-intialising the ram disk doesn't fix this.Does anyone have an idea as to what may be causing this?, the few dos programs you get as standard on the 700 rum just fine, so maybe 700 is corrupt, could someone mail me a copy (for diagnostic purposes only) so I can test this theory?. Instructions on how best to get it onto the palmtop might help too ;). Any other hints/advice appreciated. Regards Darren ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:57:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks) Comments: To: Terry Owen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped for $95. Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY Terry Owen wrote: > Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is > now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy of > LotusWorks they want to unload? > > Terry > towen@quintrex.com > owen6511@earthlink.net > > p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com > > > ---------- > > From: Russell HemeryÝSMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨ > > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Alphaworks > > > > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric > > Software > > Alphaworks. > > > > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm > > > > It seems they may be the people mentioned. > > > > Cheers > > > > Russell > > Sleepless in Ozland (3am) > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:26:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Fluff: A new toy Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, Congratulations on the Anniversary! > Of course, after reading that a pair of them will communicate via infared > I started eyeing the side of my LX with renewed interest... I can just see this: Furby-API complete with Furby commands, furby states, furby actions... :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Avi, Andreas and list, > > There is another thing what I miss in POST/LX. > It's a tiny thing for you, but a big thing for me: > > It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep > after downloading all email It is a tiny thing for you too. Add a line such as PostOnline=beep.bat to the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG (or whatever you want instead of "beep.bat". That way, POST/LX will execute the specified program upon return from an online run. > And when I hear the beep I could come back and > shut down the connection to my ISP. Simply check the "hangup" box in SETUP.EXE and POST/LX will shut down the connection automatically. > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. See above. You might want to have a look at the online help of POST/LX. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tomas Moberg wrote: > > Would you go for a v e r y s l o w message list to get that? POST/LX > > NO! Thanks! :-) > > Would it really be useful? What for? I have been tended to implement it > > but then I found no real other reason apart from "others have it too". > > Any suggestions? > > Others have it! ;-> OK. So if this is the only reason but you don't really need it for anything, I see no reason for implementing it. > Actualy I have seen it in CC:mail and Lotus Notes and I have found it > usefull and timesaving to be able to tell wich msg that contains a > attachment. So you don't want to know the size, but that it has an attachment? If this is the case: what is the use of knowing the message has an attachment (other than that some other mailers show that too :-) ? > I remove the big unimportent messages first. I rather delete one 10k > message then 10 1K messages Hmm. So you need to look at the contents of a message too to decide if you want to delete it, no? I do not understand how it then helps if the messages are sorted by size since you have to go through the list anyway. Andreas PS: Do you know that attachments can be removed to save space? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steven Lawson wrote: > GP's filtering is done prior to downloading the mail. I don't know GP but it is technically not possible to download headers only, do a decision and then download the message body only. If it does a decision after downloading headers, then it *must* download the headers again, which in total leads to a longer online time (unless you throw most messages away). So you pay for an *illusion* with unnecessarily long online times. I don't want that POST/LX fools the users that way (I am a POST/LX user myself). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > My guess is that filtering is done after the mail is downloaded (and hence the > phone bill damage is done). Filtering is done while online, but after the headers of a certain message are downloaded. If they are not downloaded, there is no way to tell what's in the headers. At that point, POST/LX must download the message body too, BTW. It *could* download only the headers first, see what to do and then download the message body. But that would damage your phone bill even more because the message body cannot be downloaded alone but the whole headers would need to be downloaded again too. So the current version harms your bill least. And if most messages you want to keep, use the normal download. If most messages you want to throw away, download only headers. I believe there is no other scheme that would damage your phone bill any less. Phone bills in Switzerland are pretty tough and I don't want to pay more than needed either ;-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:27:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steven Lawson wrote: > Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the > entire message unless it's supposed to. And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*, which often makes up the biggest part of a message. > If you only need email and want to conserve > your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you. The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:30:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Divide Overflow -- HELP!! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Darren Marshall wrote: > Re-intialising the ram disk doesn't fix this.Does anyone have an idea > as to what may be causing this?, the few dos programs you get as > standard on the 700 rum just fine, so maybe 700 is corrupt, could > someone mail me a copy (for diagnostic purposes only) so I can test > this theory?. Do the commands "200" or "100" also work? If so, do they do the same thing? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 23:31:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: FLUFF: Re: Loose Enter Key In-Reply-To: <19990422052036.BBFJ19836@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Did you mean POSTHUMOUS? (G) Boy, tough crowd! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:15:36 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Fluff: A new toy Sorry for being dumb, but what's a furby? Brown, William writes: > Hmm, now what would the shrinks say to your wife buyng a Furby ? > > I've been sitting here so long it's now my 40th birthday (by 30 minutes). > Dear Doctor, if I get a Furby from my wife as a present do I : > > (a) Write an interface for it for the LX > > (b) Switch off the PC and talk to the wife > > (c) Switch off the PC and talk to the Furby > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:45:46 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: Re: Lotus Notes -> HP (via ISP) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are the procedures for auto forward notes mail to other E-mail account: - @ your mailbox - Create-Agent - Agent Name, i.e. "Auto Forward Mail" - @ "When should this agent run?" Select "If New Mail has arrived" - Select "Simple" - Select "Add Action" - Select "Send Mail Message" - fill-up "To", "Subject" & "Body" - Select "Include copy of document" - Select "OK" - Save the Agent This is no solution! Perhaps you can call it a workaround. The sender and the subject will allways be the same (your name and the given subject). If you get some 3 or 5 mails per day, it's ok. But I get about 200 daily. Think of an Inbox full of mails with same sender and subject!!! There has to be another solution. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:49:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: Win95-like Menubar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The URL of CARGO seems to be http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm found it on altavista with the command: host:*.jp +cargo +lx bye -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:55:03 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: 200LX Backlite Of course that means you have to carry a charger with you too along with the ac adapter if you use a backlite. I guess if all a person does is use their 200LX around home it would be no big deal but if you travel a lot why would you want to have to carry a charger? A better solution would be to increase the charging current to about 500 ma along with installing a backlight. That way you could cut the charging time down to a couple hours. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 02:56:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Running EXM's without sysmgr? Is it possible? Comments: To: "stephan.goeldi" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, I have a 1000cx that is doing great, but since it doesnt have the 200lx builtin applications im wondering if there is a way to run EXM executables on the 1000cx? There are a few EXM's (like the one linked to below) that I would like to experiment with, but don't know a way to do it? Is there? Thanks In Advance, Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: stephan.goeldi To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:51 AM Subject: Win95-like Menubar >The URL of CARGO seems to be > >http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm > >found it on altavista with the command: >host:*.jp +cargo +lx > > bye >-goe- > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:09:57 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Running EXM's without sysmgr? Is it possible? I think there is a launcher on the SUPER site. It assigns a EXE to the EXM so you can run it as a normal execute file. Look under Misc Alchemist writes: > All, > > I have a 1000cx that is doing great, but since it doesnt have the 200lx > builtin > applications im wondering if there is a way to run EXM executables on the > 1000cx? > > There are a few EXM's (like the one linked to below) that I would like to > experiment > with, but don't know a way to do it? Is there? > > Thanks In Advance, > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: stephan.goeldi > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Date: Thursday, April 22, 1999 2:51 AM > Subject: Win95-like Menubar > > > >The URL of CARGO seems to be > > > >http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx.htm > > > >found it on altavista with the command: > >host:*.jp +cargo +lx > > > > bye > >-goe- > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:25:29 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Shea Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Shea Subject: Re: Lotus Notes -> HP (via ISP) Comments: To: "stephan.goeldi" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In that case, do not fill up the "subject", instead select "more", then choose "Formula", click on the "fields/functions", choose "fields" and "subject". It should show the original subject. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:52:54 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Interesting 200LX Use In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote: > > > Maybe not useful to many, but interesting: > > http://www.quantrad.com/qs05000.htm > > I'd like to add the obligatory "Let's see somebody run a nuclear > spectroscopy system on a Windows CE machine" now. Oh, I think that "Nuclear Spectroscopy Wizard" will be available in the next release of Win CE... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 03:59:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Mack Baggette To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 10:22 PM Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) >> Mack, if I recall, started on a motherboard design. Haven't heard anything >> lately. Has it run into a brick wall, Mack? > >One of the brick walls I ran into was the price of the BIOS for the SC400 >which is a necessary part as it would be hard to build a BIOS that would >talk to the SC400 processors specific registers to handle all the special >stuff such as IRDA, power control, screen control, keyboard, etc. > >We have a layout started but it is going slow as the BIOS is a necessary >part to already have for power, keyboard, and screen testing. This is to >make sure that it will even run off of a couple of AA batteries. We have >determined that the screen and keyboard can most likely be used, though. Have you looked at the BIOS toolkit, ROM-DOS and WINLight at www.datalight.com? They have a mini-development kit for the SC400 processors which might have what your are looking for. I was just looking over their doc as well as AMD's doc on the chip at AMD's site. This could be an interesting platform for a 200lx replacement. Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:06:57 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jason Sim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason Sim Subject: Re: TBLX :) Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI there, I think the TBLX is a pretty cool s/w. I'm not a tech person so how do you make it work with my currently config? Thanks Jason -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Johns To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: 22 April, 1999 12:26 PM Subject: TBLX :) >This TBLX.EXM program is pretty slick :) In fact it may replace Finder on my >LX if I can figure everything out! > >73 Jeff W4JEF > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* > |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | > | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| > |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | > *------------------------------------------------------------------* > >Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: WTB: 200LX Motherboard In-Reply-To: <8825675A.00682B12.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter. I'm looking into having it repaired, but I figure swapping the motherboard might be less expensive. So, if anyone on the list has (or knows of) an LX with a broken hinge or a bad display or something that renders it useless but with a good motherboard, please let me know. I am willing to buy a whole palmtop or just the motherboard itself. A 1MB version is fine; larger is better. Thanks, Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:12:59 GMT Reply-To: jasonyap@singnet.com.sg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason C H Yap Subject: The First Palmtop Webserver In-Reply-To: <199904192340.HAA16243@argon.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:40:05 -0400, you wrote: >From: Michael Kopplin > The World's First Palmtop Webserver! Sorry M$ Internet Explorer users. It doesn't seem >to work with most versions of IE past 3.0. Well done! Incidentally, I went to the site with the Win98 IE (ie IE 4.0), no problems. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:08:31 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: JoustVGA Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:19:58 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: JoustVGA In-Reply-To: <199903220708.PNR03108@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA? Atari's original conversion of Joust was written for CGA. (I don't have it, BTW) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:43:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Programming on the LX... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Is there a tutorial or a webpage or a book that could give me information about learning how to program for the LX? I'm an RPG programmer on the AS400 by profession, so I imagine I would have to learn another language for programming on the LX. What is a good language to learn for this endeavor... C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC? Where do I start?? TIA, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:44:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Regarding: vi Tutorial In-Reply-To: <199904220212.VAA04619x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Apr 21, 99 08:37:54 pm Content-Type: text > While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of > it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little > Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!? Jeff: May I recommend the book "Learning the VI Editor" by Linda Lamb. I have the latest edition (6th) and an older one (5th maybe?). They are both packed up in a box right now, but the older edition was smaller and included a REAL handy cheat-sheet of vi commands. I see that they're selling a companion pocket reference book. I'm getting my information from the Amazon.com website. I ordered my latest copy from the publisher, O'Reilly and Associates. So there are at least two places you can order it from. Good luck with it. The learning curve is STEEP, but in my case, once I learned it, it had proven to be the best and most powerful editor I've ever used. (Please don't start another thread on whose editor is best). -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:49:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Megahertz 14.4 modems for sale In-Reply-To: <5D0F4030013B2100@ii.medinst.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Those of you who are looking for modems might be interested in the following post I came across on Usenet. I have used my XJ2144 modem quite successfully for a year and a half, and am considering buying another as the X-Jack has stopped retracting all the way. I typically can run nearly an hour online using my XJ2144 in my 200LX with fresh NiCd batteries. I have not dealt with this fellow before, and have no data regarding his reliability. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ------ Begin forward -------------------------------- > From: kento@eznet.net (Kento) > Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp,comp.sys.newton.marketplace > Subject: FS:PCMCIA 14.4 Modems for PDA's $12.99 > Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:26:50 -0400 > Organization: Posted via RemarQ Communities, Inc. > > 4/21/99 > FS: (240) Megahertz GOLD series PCMCIA 14.4 Data/Fax Modems $12.99 each > Works in Newtons and HP200LX palmtops, among others! > (Made by US Robotics) > > Discounts on bulk purchases of 10 or more! > > PC Card Modem Specs: > -Model# XJ 2144 ( XJ2144 ) > -PCMCIA Standard > -Megahertz PCMCIA Gold Series > -XJack allows the use of a standard telephone cable that connects the > modem to the wall jack > -14,400 / 14,400 speeds for Modem / Fax > -Low current drain > -Works on many palmtops, including the HP200LX and later Newtons > -***THESE ARE NOT WINCE COMPATIBLE*** > -No software comes with this. Most systems recognize the modem > automatically > -These modems were pulled from laptops that were upgraded to faster > modems. All the modems are in excellent condition, they do not look like > they were used. > -While supplies last, these modems come with a jewel case made for this > PCMCIA card modem. > > I warranty the modems for 30 days. If you are not satisfied within 30 > days, return it and I will gladly refund your money (minus shipping). > > DEALERS: Bulk orders always get a better price. Make an offer! > > Go here to see the specs on my website for these Modems: > http://home.eznet.net/~kento/mhzpcm.html > > Shipping to Europe is $3.75. > Shipping in US: $2.00 > > Thanks in Advance! > Kento > > Kento's Discount Hardware & Trade Page: > http://home.eznet.net/~kento > > -- > "Know Thyself" - Socrates > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:56:16 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: JoustVGA Laust Brock-Nannestad writes: > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > Anybody know if a version of Joust has been written for CGA? > > Atari's original conversion of Joust was written for CGA. > > (I don't have it, BTW) > Do you know if it'll run? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:05:28 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hart@CATHOLIC.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Hart Subject: Backlighting I don't know if Thaddeus is listening but I would pay real money for a backlit HP200LX that didn't require an external power supply. Would I use it all the time? No, just when I had the HP plugged in and when occasionally I would want to use it at night (looking up a phone number next to a payphone for example). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:59:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So you don't want to know the size, but that it has an attachment? If > this is the case: what is the use of knowing the message has an > attachment (other than that some other mailers show that too :-) ? I actually use this feature quite often on the desktop whenever I have to go back and find a message with a document I need. I would rather not have to look at every message and just the ones that have attachments. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:00:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: X-Finder Icon Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right side. Well, I came across a solution this morning: using icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it for a second time. My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder. Strange. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:50:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Dunaway Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Dunaway Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair? Scott Dunaway ---o ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:54:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Dunaway Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Dunaway Subject: IR to PC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I tried using a ACTiSYS (ACT-IR-200L) infrared adapter with TransFile 200, but no luck. Anybody else get this combo working? My PC is a Dell OptiPlex GX1 running, what else?, Win95. TIA. Scott Dunaway ---o ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:09:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The thing that you are "peeling" off is the black keyboard mask with the lettering that is around the keys. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Scott Dunaway ÝSMTP:sdunaway@FORD.COM¨ Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:51 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair? Scott Dunaway ---o ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:05:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key Comments: To: Scott Dunaway MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I found that using an Exacto knife worked well for this. Just carefully lift up a corner, and then you can grab it with your fingers and pull it on off. It has some sticky stuff on the back, so you can put it back on when you're done. Steve -----Original Message----- From: Scott Dunaway ÝSMTP:sdunaway@FORD.COM¨ Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:51 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Loose Enter Key How does one 'peel' the keyboard apart for the repair? Scott Dunaway ---o ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:27:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225ECD@N3CDOIMMAIL160M>; from Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO on Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 01:56:36PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-21-18:56:36 Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO: > How many on this list own ONLY two rechargeable AAs? OK, be honest now ;-) I own 6; two NiMHs in my LX, 2 NiMHs in my wife's LX, and an old pair of Radio Shack "Hi Capacity" 850mAH NiCDs sitting in a drawer, that I used in my LX before R-S started carrying NiMHs. I only use one pair. I use batset so that the LX drops to trickle-charge after 1 minute (the shortest interval you can set), and I plug it in while I'm sleeping and whenever I'm at my desk. It mostly stays topped off. I use it all the time, and sometimes for very long stretches on batteries (mostly Vertical Reader). I always have a spare pair of batteries with me, because I keep a mini-maglite in my bag with single-user Lithiums in it, but I've never had to use them. I really like this setup. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:40:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mack Baggette wrote: > I actually use this feature quite often on the desktop whenever I have to go > back and find a message with a document I need. I would rather not have to > look at every message and just the ones that have attachments. Would you think this could be useful on the palmtop too (how many WinWord documents do you get on the palmtop that you want to keep?)? Andreas PS: Why don't you save the documents in the first place? They need less space when saved due to the encoding. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:42:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Re: LotusWorks? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Was that the original price of the software? I purchased a used copy from a list member for a minute fraction of this asking price. Of course, it does have a very nice little relational database that I am running on a 1meg 100lx, so might be worth it if someone has the money to burn... Terry > ---------- > From: Bob MeyerÝSMTP:bmeyer@UNION-TEL.COM¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Bob Meyer > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 12:57 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks) > > A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped > for > $95. > > Bob Meyer > bmeyer@union-tel.com > Elk Mountain WY > > Terry Owen wrote: > > > Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and > is > > now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy > of > > LotusWorks they want to unload? > > > > Terry > > towen@quintrex.com > > owen6511@earthlink.net > > > > p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Russell HemeryÝSMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨ > > > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM > > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > > Subject: Re: Wanted: Alphaworks > > > > > > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric > > > Software > > > Alphaworks. > > > > > > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm > > > > > > It seems they may be the people mentioned. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Russell > > > Sleepless in Ozland (3am) > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:55:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) In-Reply-To: <199904220343.WAA08275x@scott.net>; from Jeff Johns on Wed, Apr 21, 1999 at 10:29:47PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-22-03:29:47 Jeff Johns: > Ý...¨ but as Mack says it would really be a real 'downer' to do all the > development work, spend a bunch of money and just end up with a battery > eater. For whatever it's worth, if someone were to offer me a machine with a keyboard I can use, that fits in my pocket (HP LXes are the only candidates that make it this far), capable of running real Linux (32-bit CPU, 4+MB RAM, 20+MB "disk"), I'd accept a run-time as short as a few hours. That would be so fiendishly useful, yowza. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:06:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: LXMAP & Oops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I mentioned the DOS APPEND command for searhing for data files. Actually for an *.INI file in the same directory as the executable file, the DOS environment can be searched for the path to the executable and then that used for the *.INI. Wrote one of those in 1994 and totally forgot about it. (Oops) Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:09:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: TaskBar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Hi gang- Thanks to Antonio, I installed TBLX last nite, and played around a little. Cool looking program! 8-) Most of what I've figured out is probably obvious, though... Ýrun¨ dosline=3D(hex number) The hex number here and on other lines is the hotkey code for the .exm Ýfind¨ Filename=3D Contents=3D Hex numbers here, too. Hotkeys for whereis.exm & gs.exm It looks like you can change the titles to what you want. Ýprogram¨ List your .exm programs and hotkeys here ÝPIM¨ Same for the built-in apps Bad news is -- I have NO IDEA what the items in the Ýoptions¨ section do, other than that 123g and ip are both .exm programs (123g makes a palmtop GUI menu for 123 - don't know what ip does). Tried 0, 1, and 2 for the Taskbar=3D line and saw no effect. If anyone figures anything out, please post it to the list. Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:09:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Programming on the LX... Comments: To: Steve Dowell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:03:06 -0400 (EDT) 01h19m44s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Steve Dowell wrote: > What is a good > language to learn for this endeavor... C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC? I'm partial to Forth. Grab HP-Pygmy from SUPER. This is a version of Frank Sergeant's Pygmy with a bunch of palmtop extensions. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:06:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Regarding: vi Tutorial Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" In-Reply-To: <199904221244.HAA22698@ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, Another source of programming books is http://www.fatbrain.com/ This is a more focused site with good pricing Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of R. Christopher Lott > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 8:44 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Regarding: vi Tutorial > > > > While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief > tutorial of > > it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work > with the little > > Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:11:16 +0200 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: X-Finder Icon Fix Comments: To: Edward Moy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ICN files have 4 unused bits in each pixel row, at the end of the row - there is space in the ICN file to store 48 pixels in each row, but only 44 are used (the icons are 44x32). It can happen that these icons have these 4x32 bits not zeroed, and that makes no difference in application manager, and does make a difference in X-Finder. I did not test this, but maybe you could use this bug/feature of X-Finder to display 48x32 icons. -- +-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio * Technical Project Manager | A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706 Fax: +49.30.7002 4780 +---------------+ mailto:Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:36:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Programming on the LX... In-Reply-To: <199904221409.KAA12995@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > I'm partial to Forth. Grab HP-Pygmy from SUPER. This is a version of > Frank Sergeant's Pygmy with a bunch of palmtop extensions. That would be good if he didn't spell his name wrong. PAL and the HP EXM development utilities are designed to work with C, so that's probably the most all-purpose language to use for LX programming. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:18:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: X-Finder Icon Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need to save twice. Edward Moy wrote: > I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that > X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would > draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right > side. Well, I came across a solution this morning: using > icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it > for a second time. My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder. > Strange. > > Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:28:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Backlighting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Oh Thaddeus is always listening. Various people have been working on a solution for some time. Believe me, we would love to sell a backliting solution -- it would be a real service to the Palmtop community and it would prolong our ability to support the palmtop as a business. Our biggest concern is coming up with a way that is not too labor intensive (ideally not more than 15 minutes a unit), and even more importantly minimizes the chances of damaging the screen. Hal at http://www.palmtoppaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:42:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: Re: Programming on the LX... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Steve - I think it depends on what you want to program. I asked this same question a couple of months ago and got a variety of responses. In my case, there was already a program out there and a kind soul pointed me in the right direction. Sometimes someone else has already written the program you need - which is better than re-inventing the wheel, IMO. I am also an AS/400 programmer and RPG is a fairly wordy language, making Forth and Basic good transitional languages. I like Rexx for simple stuff (and it runs on the 400!) and would like to learn it better. You might want to check out a little language called Tipi, too. It has an HP-like GUI, lots of example programs and is very readable. http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/os/dos/programming/tipi/index.html Terry > ---------- > From: Steve DowellÝSMTP:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Steve Dowell > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 7:43 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Programming on the LX... > > Is there a tutorial or a webpage or a book that could give me > information about learning how to program for the LX? > > I'm an RPG programmer on the AS400 by profession, so I imagine I would > have to learn another language for programming on the LX. What is a > good > language to learn for this endeavor... C? PERL? FORTH? BASIC? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:56:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: X-Finder Icon Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doh! You don't even have to invert it. Just open it in icn200lx, save and quit. Edward Moy wrote: > Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need > to save twice. > > Edward Moy wrote: > > > I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that > > X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would > > draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right > > side. Well, I came across a solution this morning: using > > icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it > > for a second time. My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder. > > Strange. > > > > Ed > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:08:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Menu programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The only problem I see with all these spiffy new menu programs (SMMX, X-Finder, TBLX) is that they all take up a lot of memory. Is it possible to write an EXM program that would take advantage of EMS and only use a few kilobytes of conventional memory? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:17:09 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Prelimnary survey results Just wanted to let you know how its going. 4.25% response Overwhelming in favour of an upgrade. 2 maybes 0 negatives Seems like the overwhelming majority would like it to run more programs, a few for a more advanced operating system. Very few show an interest insyncing with another OS. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:25:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Menu programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An interesting question. Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS? - Longden David Sargeant on 04/22/99 09:08:10 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to David Sargeant To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Menu programs The only problem I see with all these spiffy new menu programs (SMMX, X-Finder, TBLX) is that they all take up a lot of memory. Is it possible to write an EXM program that would take advantage of EMS and only use a few kilobytes of conventional memory? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:36:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Menu programs In-Reply-To: <8825675B.005A76FE.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> from "Longden Loo" at Apr 22, 99 09:25:33 am Content-Type: text > An interesting question. Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS? Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize EMS? Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS? -Chris "EMS Ignorant" Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:44:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Menu programs In-Reply-To: <199904221636.LAA05794@ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, R. Christopher Lott wrote: > Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize > EMS? Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS? Yes, an ordinary DOS program can use EMS if it's designed to do so. The question, though, is if EXM programs can use it as well. That would free up lots of memory, especially in the case of these menu programs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:45:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Menu programs Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's no question that an ordinary EXE can use EMS (if it's programmed to do so). I think Dave's interest is having a SysMgr compliant program to allow all the good stuff that goes with it (mostly cut and paste...but other things too), but at the same time keeping the available memory high thru the use of EMS. His interest was in the menu programs...but I was just curious about EXM in general (whether they can use EMS...I don't think so). - Longden "R. Christopher Lott" on 04/22/99 09:36:04 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to "R. Christopher Lott" To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: Menu programs > An interesting question. Does anyone know of ANY EXM that uses EMS? Furthermore, why would such a program have to be an .EXM to utilize EMS? Can't an ordinary DOS .EXE program use EMS? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:46:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Another Icon, Mitch? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:20:32 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: > Hey Mitch, if you still have some of that 'extra' time on your hands, = how > 'bout making us an icon for Task Bar ? Hi Jeff, There is really no need for an Icon with TaskBar if you have Moreexm installed, just remap your hot keys to the &... (MORE) with Exkey. So when you want to bring up the TaskBar just press the &... key, works great. Tip: a:\bin\tblx.exm,6B00,1,TaskBar Add a 1 here_____________ ¬ to all of your .exm this will enable overlappi= ng so the TaskBar will come up under the TopCard and any .exm running. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:46:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: TBLX :) Comments: To: Jason Sim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:06:57 +0800, Jason Sim = wrote: > HI there, > > I think the TBLX is a pretty cool s/w. I'm not a tech person so how do = you > make it work with my currently config? Hi Jason & List Members What you need todo is edit yoyr tblx.dat. Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the keycodes for your installed .exm. For your non-exm programs there is a program on the SUPER Site that will corvert .exe, .com, .bat to .exm its what I used to get POST/LX and a few others to run from the taskBar. Ýoption¨ taskbar=3D2 allkill=3D4000 tblxend=3D1 123g=3D08A9 ip=3D07BD Ýrun¨ dosline=3D8100 Ýfind¨ Filename=3D6900 Contents=3D6d00 Ýprogram¨ Accessories=3D0 PIM=3D0 Internet=3D0 Games=3D0 Quicken=3Dac00 Lotus 123=3Dbc00 DOS Prompt=3Dc200 Tasklist=3D7100 KeyM=3DA700 X-Finder=3D6f00 Log Express=3DC300 Filer=3Da800 Memo=3Db800 Calc=3Dc000 Swatch=3Db600 Database=3Dba00 Note=3Dbe00 World=3Dc600 Macros=3Daa00 Laplink=3Dab00 CCmail=3Dbf00 HP Alarm=3D069c Appointments=3Db000 Phonebook=3Db400 Postlx=3D05f9 Comm=3Db200 Heart&Bones=3Dc300 HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:04:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904220627.IAA12508@if0010.swisslife.ch> from Andreas Garzotto at "Apr 22, 99 08:27:19 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*, > which often makes up the biggest part of a message. That depends on what kind of messages you get. If you get alot of attachments, or messages from Windoze s/w (with all the 'HTML copy' and 'card' crap) the header becomes less of an issue. Not being able to read the message w/o the header is a limitation of the POP protocol. It's your choice in GP. You can always skip the header-only read by leaving GP in normal mode, and setting a maximum message size to avoid large attachment downloads. I have never ran WWW/LX, so I'm certainly not going to badmouth the way you chose to make it behave. Judging by the number of happy users, I assume that it works very well. You chose to badmouth the way I decided to make GP behave, yet I'm not aware that you have ever ran my software either. > The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with > the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the > composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to > make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill? GP V2 took up 114k, and V3beta is sitting in <135k. This is complete, no stripping away parts of it like the configuration code. You can reduce this another 5k if you need to. "Overkill" wasn't meant to say WWW/LX is bad or bloated, I specifically meant that paying an extra $60 for all the features of WWW/LX and then only using the email was a waste. Would you suggest purchasing MS Word to edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT file? Personally, as I pointed out in that mail, I think alot of people will end up buying both. Jeff Johns, who has a copy of both our software, moves between both of them. They each have their strong points. Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did it 'wrong'. People can try both out for themselves. We each picked what we thought was the way to handle the protocol. Letting people on the list know what our strong points are is productive. Telling them why the other sucks (especially when we don't use it) is a waste of bandwith, just like a "Ford vs Chevy" argument (since *everyone* knows the Chevy wins ) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:17:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904220627.IAA12496@if0010.swisslife.ch> from Andreas Garzotto at "Apr 22, 99 08:27:19 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't know GP but it is technically not possible to download headers > only, do a decision and then download the message body only. If it > does a decision after downloading headers, then it *must* download the > headers again, which in total leads to a longer online time (unless > you throw most messages away). So you pay for an *illusion* with > unnecessarily long online times. I don't want that POST/LX fools the > users that way (I am a POST/LX user myself). Yes, it's a large hole in the POP protocol. As with most things in life you give up one thing to get another. Since WWW/LX is not using the TOP command to get the header, it has no way of *not* reading a message once it starts. Each way has it's benefits and its drawbacks. GP only does the extra header read when you're using features that require it. If GP is just downloading all messages, it skips the TOP command. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:22:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: TBLX :) Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:13:52 -0400 (EDT) 27m33s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you > start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the > keycodes for your installed .exm. Hey, great work Qman! I see you have it set up to use folders for your programs. Have you figured out what any of the stuff in Ýoption¨ does? Also do you have LogExpress and Ip working? I DLd both from Vector about a week or so back, but they seem to need Japanese fonts to work... TBLX looks like another winner! 8-) Later -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:29:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <19990422170449.677A19611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> from "Steven Lawson" at Apr 22, 99 10:04:49 am Content-Type: text > Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did > it 'wrong'. Until you just mentioned it, I didn't get this sense out of any of the previous posts on this topic. I enjoyed reading about the the different issues and techniques of interacting with the POP server, and found the exchanges to be technically enlightening. I didn't perceive any "bashing" or "badmouthing". I say keep up this kind of technical exchange when these issues are brought up. (Avoiding, of course, any of the negatives listed above). -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:41:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: TaskBar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:09:03 -0400, Peniel Romanelli = wrote: > Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:50:01 -0400 (EDT) > > Hi gang- > > Thanks to Antonio, I installed TBLX last nite, and played around a > little. Cool looking program! 8-) > > Most of what I've figured out is probably obvious, though... TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do = come to those who wait & dream. (:-) Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its only April. (:-) Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the ÝDEL¨ = key. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:50:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: TaskBar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To TBLX users, what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install and use? At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6. - Longden Quinton Jones Jr on 04/22/99 10:41:57 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Quinton Jones Jr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: TaskBar TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come to those who wait & dream. (:-) Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its only April. (:-) Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the ÝDEL¨ key. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:25:02 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: <199904211738.RAA14105@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:38:12 GMT Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Another POST/LX idea To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. > Most any modem should support this. There is a register 19 that sets an inactivity timer. S19 Sets the duration, in minutes, of the Inactivity Timer. The timer activates when there is no data activity on the phone line; at timeout the modem hangs up. S19 = 0 disables the timer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:25:02 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:51 -0700 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on > > it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only > > thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot > > easier to use at a desk. > > Nothing's wrong with it. I also type with great speed on it. (Granted, > with SmartCaps turned on.) And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop > keyboard I've ever used. I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as > I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful. But it's > nowhere close. And it's not even the hardware's fault. The response to > keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like seconds> three seconds>... > And you said this machine was 40 Mhz. Thinking about this then, even if the machine was 80 Mhz, it would still lag? Seems like. Instead, you'd be waiting 1 second. If it was a noticeable lag on a 40 Mhz machine, it would still be noticeable at 80 Mhz. Ah well, those are hopeless then. Everything produced in 1997-98 was probably below 100 Mhz. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:25:53 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard Comments: To: Rick Rae In-Reply-To: <199904220705060240.07311A5C@mail.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400 Send reply to: RickRae@usa.net From: Rick Rae Subject: WTB: 200LX Motherboard To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and > didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries > backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter. I'm looking into having You can do that with this machine? I thought all these kinds of machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:58:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904221729.MAA16021@ro.com> from "R. Christopher Lott" at "Apr 22, 99 12:29:24 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I falsly sensed that Andreas was saying GP was doing it badly, then I appologize. I'm perfectly happy discussing the technical issues with the list. Neither product is doing it badly, just different. There are tradeoffs in each way you do it, and what works best for one person will not be the best for another. We each have to get around shortcomings in the protocol, which leads to different solutions. I hope the "overkill" part wasn't taken as a bash on WWW/LX. It was fully intended to be a "use the tool sized for the job" comment. I really try hard to avoid critisizing WWW/LX as I have alot of respect for it. I've only used HV.EXE, but can see Andreas has gotten alot out of the little LX. If WWW/LX were the product it is today, at it's current price, I may never have begun coding Goin' Postal. And I appologize to all you Ford owners with my "Ford vs. Chevy" comment. You have enough to worry about with your Ford without me picking on you.. > > Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did > > it 'wrong'. > > Until you just mentioned it, I didn't get this sense out of any of the > previous posts on this topic. I enjoyed reading about the the different > issues and techniques of interacting with the POP server, and found the > exchanges to be technically enlightening. I didn't perceive any "bashing" > or "badmouthing". I say keep up this kind of technical exchange when > these issues are brought up. (Avoiding, of course, any of the negatives > listed above). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:30:43 +0200 Reply-To: molitor@moli.franken.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Reinhard Mueller Subject: Fluff: Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard In-Reply-To: <199904221752.PAA25127@firma.thezone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and > > didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries > > backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter. I'm looking into having > > You can do that with this machine? I thought all these kinds of > machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted. so you see that - unlike users of other machines - typical HP200LX- users are clever enough to distinguish "+" (pronounced "plus") from "-" (pronounced "minus"). This is some kind of test to determine whether the user is worthy to use this device, though less gifted people still have a chance of 50 percent to pass the test. Reinhard :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:52:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Dirt cheap. It's on your palmtop right now. Read the owner's manual and it will explain how to set-up a LapLink Remote session with your desktop PC. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO ÝSMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL¨ > > Is it expensive? Or is this a dumb Q. (maybe it's abandoned/free-ware out > there)? Maybe because I have an old 100LX and the 200LX, I "own" two > copies > of the program and can copy it to my PC, as long as I don't use it on 3 > computers at the same time? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: What TINA for DOS v.2.xx is... (Re: Palmtop Circuit) Hello all, As I said, there is an offer to buy Palmtop Circuit AND Tina for DOS version 2.6 together for USD149. So, what is Tina for DOS v2.xx? SHORT: It is same as PAlmtop CIrcuit, plus supports analysis with: noise, worstcase, Monte-Carlo method, multiple analysis, tolerance and extended optimize functionality, which are partly missing from PACI. Analysis of digital circuits is still NOT available. It was made by DesignSoft in Hungary, just like Palmtop Circuit. Please understand however, that TINA is geared towards desktop PC as running computer; because it supports measurement and thus relies heavily on the optional ISA-8 bus I/O card and external 16-channel box to make use of all it's capabilities. Without card: no measurement. You'll be able to access some of the before-mentioned extra functions as Tina for DOS v2.xx runs on PC/XT with CGA; but you'll have to live with a 25-33% slowdown, compared to Palmtop Circuit, when running the same task. This is because Palmtop Circuit is not only a stripped down version of Tina for DOS; rather several parts have been rewritten to optimize run on HPLX, an XT w/o FPU. DesignSoft claims that Tina for DOS v 2.xx is not a suitable repla- cement for Palmtop Circuit on LX, as it's slow, when running medium complexity tasks. Also, Tina surely requires you to part with many TSRs; as 590KB free is needed. However if you can't live without extra features and have a 2x/DS machine, try if you wish. Optional hardware: ISA-8 card and 16-channel splitter box will cost 270USD each (or 500USD for both), however attaching ISA cards to the HPLX has not been tried. ÝIMO, it should be possible, there is BUF-Card(PC) PCMCIA-to-ISA card by . Should work. But I admit, there's no point in hooking 13" long ISA cards to HPLX¨ The Tina licence will allow you to install Tina for DOS v2.xx on two computers, one palmtop and one desktop. Thus if you wish to have the desktop equipped with card and splitter box, you can take advantage of all of TINA's measurement functionality. Tina is available alone (eg. not bundled with Palmtop Circuit), but then it will cost 100USD. If you buy Tina or Tina+Palmtop Circuit, these will be sent to you on 1 CD-RW disk, as Tina takes two floppies, which would prevent sending the package as 1 week, air-mail. Thus the price would be higher to include more bucks for shipping if floppies were chosen. LONG version: I think the post line limit is 100, so the Tina for DOS ver. 2.5 description (3 pages of text) will be in a third posting. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. Ps: There is a slim chance, that they will create / downsize a TINA for DOS version 3.xx special edition for the 200LX. Tina for DOS v.3.xx needed an AT/286 minimum and supported analysis of the digital circuits as well. They say it may be possible to downscale it to run on XT and still provide support for at least a limited range of digital circuitry. But it won't be any soon and would cost too much to be sensible. They would have to rewrite most of the code and use something more effective, than Borland Pascal or Delphi to get it go on HPLX. It would also require a memory upgraded LX to have ample EMS/EMM. However, they may make it for some reason I can't explain. ÝI do think, this move is only acceptable, if they provide upgrade for the Palmtop Circuit and Tina for DOS v2.xx users at a nominal fee; because I don't think the LX users should act as unlimited financial resource to help DesignSoft market their Windows versions of software at a discount ¨. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:46:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Would you think this could be useful on the palmtop too (how many > WinWord documents do you get on the palmtop that you want to keep?)? I also have some small programs, text documents, P.O.'s, pictures, etc. as attachments. Very few are actually word documents. > PS: Why don't you save the documents in the first place? They need less > space when saved due to the encoding. I would rather save the emails in some cases as they are easier to search and find. It seems nicer for some things to be all together with the original message. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, > Nope, GP filters based on the message header and doesn't download the > entire message unless it's supposed to. GP also supports a 'headers-only' > mode where it'll index the messages and you can pick and choose which to > download, which to skip over, and which to delete on your next connection. Ok, but it _does_ download all the headers to decide which to keep which to kill.... No advantage vs. Post/LX. > Filters work in either headers-only or normal mode. In headers-only, you > can use the filters to instantly download or delete certain messages, > while the remainder are just indexed for retrieval later if you choose. > In normal mode, you can use filters to skip over or delete certain > messages, while the remainder are downloaded. Filters work in Post/LX in headers only or in full message download as well... Right, GP has an advantage here in that it downloads a header decides it is not to be kept and kills it right then and there on the server. In Post/LX that would be a two run process. Of course, if you change your mind, Post/LX will still let you get that message, but it'll be gone when using GP, since GP killed it... This may be an advantage or not, depending :-) ... > In reality, I don't think Avi and myself are competing that much - we I think we just enjoy razzing each other a bit. In truth, I think there is plenty of room for both products. The discussion we engage in is very educational, I believe to help people decide the finer points, too. > both have good products with slightly different markets. If you need Agree, GP is a very good product! > newsgroups and web browsing, GP would not make sense for you and WWW/LX > would be an excellent choice. If you only need email and want to conserve > your disk space, WWW/LX would be an overkill for you. In the real world, At one point I calculated it'll take about 150K to just have email (need WWW.EXE, POST.EXE, their respective .CFG files and a few more K for templates etc. I believe GP requires still less storage. > I know for a fact that GP has gotten LX's out of desk drawers - I like to EXCELLENT!!!! Terrific service to the whole community. I know that GP made people buy WWW/LX Plus and now they use BOTH, depending on the situation. WWW/LX Plus did some amazing things to the market in Japan since last year! Did you notice that the past year brought many more Japanese contributions than the prior years? So much for a "dead machine" :) ... > think that those people will be so impressed with their "gee, I didn't > realize it was still so useful!" LX that they will end up buying a new > unit from Thaddeus and eventually get WWW/LX for it too. A win for the > entire community.. YES!!!! This dead, obsolete, incapable, slow machine has THREE email products SPECIFICALLY written for it, and several more adaptations of Internet Comms (Rod? Chime in, will ya?) > Of course, we do like to get that little plug in there for our own product > from time to time... :-) It should be so - you did a good thing with GP! Helped EVERYONE. And I mean this completely sincerely. Avi Meshar D&A Software, Inc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: "Brown, William" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm glad that both Avi and Steve have products in this market, they both And don't forget LXTCP, NetTamer, Pegasus, and ?? Did I forget anything? > have features we'd all expect. But let's not have a shooting match. We > (the customer) will decide which is right for our work habits, $$$ and > configuration. All you (the authors) need to do is write software, and if > *no-one* buys/appreciates it worry. Please don't worry if *some* of us > choose someone else's software. We may just be different. Nah, ... this is actually good for everyone. Unless you see the finer points in both products in a comparison like we are doing now, it is harder to evaluate... I have never shied away from critique and comparisons in public. I think it is extremely useful. It is definitely not a shooting match, well I do not intend it and I am sure Steve does not either... The more you know, the vetter for both companies and for all the customers, so no one suffers from that... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden, > The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course). Yes, agreed. I saw it as a very friendly thing... I perceived it as a good opportunity to expose technical details of both products, and the mutual plugs don't harm either :) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Actually, it looks at the headers and it happens very quickly! So the difference is that Post/LX also looks at the headers and stores them on the palmtop. In both cases, the headers are downloaded. Where is the advantage? or is there? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David, > > Thanks for the plug....er, I mean feedback Steve. > > The gauntlet's been thrown (a friendly one, of course). > > As far as I can tell, not only has the gauntlet been thrown, but the duel > has already been fought. Or maybe it's still going on. As long as you make the "duel" and "fighting" as harmless and good natured jostle and an opportinuty to provide lots of education and comparisons and information, I think too it is being "fought". If it ever went to another interpretation, I quit! :-) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 00:12:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Wow! Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to > receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can > reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the Nice feature!!! I want one! :) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:39:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: Claude_Holle In-Reply-To: <000901be8cd7$39630300$a103dd18@phx37210>; from Claude_Holle on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 08:46:00AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-22-15:46:00 Claude_Holle: > What is batset? Batset is a teensy end-and-remain-ignorant, I'm pretty sure it's available from S.U.P.E.R., lets you control how long the LX's builtin battery charger remains on "high-current". The LX has two charge rates; by default I think it runs 6 hours of high-current charging before falling off to trickle. That's cool if your batteries are new, or dead, or otherwise deeply discharged, but when they're nearly full, the high-current charge can over-heat them. Trickle charging doesn't. > I would like to get off the re-usable train, but am scared > after scary experiences with NiCads. Are NiMH's that much better? Highly recommended. People have had their brains engraved with the lore that "NiCds have memory effect", it's actually branded, you can see it deeply seared into the brain folds. They cannot hear or learn anything else. So changing to NiMHs is wildly comforting since people haven't been convinced that NiMhs have memory effect, and can hear you when you say they don't:-). Seriously, though, NiMHs are available in higher capacity (at least from Radio Shack) than NiCds. Plus they're maybe a bit lighter-weight. May even tolerate more charge/discharge cycles, though I ran NiCds or years, and run NiMH's for years, keeping 'em always topped up, and expecting many hours of run-time and weeks of sleep time whenever I step away from my charger. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 02:32:26 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jason Sim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason Sim Subject: Re: TaskBar+ short introduction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I think its just a novelty to install the TBLX, it just look cool but I guess after awhile I'll remove it. Anyway, here's a short intro of myself : I work in Hewlett Packard in Singapore but not in the engineering site and I shall raise the issue of why HP won't wanna built a better 200LX to a friend who works in some PDA dept, maybe somewhere next week. Hope he has something interesting to say...... Ciao Jason -----Original Message----- From: Longden Loo To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: 23 April, 1999 1:51 AM Subject: Re: TaskBar >To TBLX users, > > what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install and >use? > >At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting >the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6. > >- Longden > > > > > >Quinton Jones Jr on 04/22/99 10:41:57 AM > >Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to Quinton Jones Jr > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) > >Subject: Re: TaskBar > > > > > >TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince >a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come >to those who wait & dream. (:-) > >Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just >look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its >only April. (:-) > >Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the ÝDEL¨ key. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:21:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks to both (DASoft and Steve) for their very informative comments on your filtering of messages. Your restraint from bashing each other has been commendable and hopefully I can begin making a decision soon to move away from NetTamer which has no built-in filtering (you have to buy a shareware add-on...and that filters after the download). - Longden (who drives a Toyota with 297k miles on it ) Steven Lawson on 04/22/99 10:58:46 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Steven Lawson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question I hope the "overkill" part wasn't taken as a bash on WWW/LX. It was fully intended to be a "use the tool sized for the job" comment. I really try hard to avoid critisizing WWW/LX as I have alot of respect for it. I've only used HV.EXE, but can see Andreas has gotten alot out of the little LX. If WWW/LX were the product it is today, at it's current price, I may never have begun coding Goin' Postal. And I appologize to all you Ford owners with my "Ford vs. Chevy" comment. You have enough to worry about with your Ford without me picking on you.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:25:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steven Lawson wrote: > > And when it is "supposed" to, it needs to download all headers *again*, > > which often makes up the biggest part of a message. > > That depends on what kind of messages you get. If you get alot of > attachments, or messages from Windoze s/w (with all the 'HTML copy' and > 'card' crap) the header becomes less of an issue. How many attachments do you get with this list, for example? About 50% of the stuff to download for this list is headers. And these headers are downloaded twice when using that mode of GP. > Not being able to read the message w/o the header is a limitation of the > POP protocol. Exactly! > It's your choice in GP. You can always skip the > header-only read by leaving GP in normal mode, and setting a maximum > message size to avoid large attachment downloads. Perfectly true. I just objected to the illusion that online time is reduced by a feature that actually causes to download all headers twice and thus in fact increases online time. It may be a *convenient* feature, but it does not reduce online time as some people seem to think. > I have never ran WWW/LX, so I'm certainly not going to badmouth the way > you chose to make it behave. I have to admit I never tried GP. But it seems that lots of stuff is done similarly in both programs. Maybe this is the reason why both programs seem to have lots of happy users. > > The current version of WWW.EXE is 48k and POST/LX 88k, together with > > the configuration files, this sums up to about 140k (plus of course the > > composed and downloaded messages). How much disk space does GP need to > > make you say WWW/LX for email only is an overkill? > > GP V2 took up 114k, and V3beta is sitting in <135k. This is complete, no > stripping away parts of it like the configuration code. You can reduce > this another 5k if you need to. So it seems GP needs about 5-10k less disk space than WWW/LX with POST/LX. Not that much of a difference IMO. > Lets not involve the list further on why each of us thinks the other did > it 'wrong'. I was not trying to say you did something wrong. It just drove me nuts to listen to people that keep on telling me GP is reducing online time by downloading the headers twice instead of once and I wanted to have that point clear. And the other point that I wanted to have resolved: it is said that GP uses less disk space than POST/LX. And we found out that this is true by about 10%. Hmmm. Thinking about it again, isn't also a packet driver needed to run GP or is the 135k really including everything? My numbers for POST/LX were including everything you need to have on the palmtop to do email. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:25:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steven Lawson wrote: > Since WWW/LX is not using the TOP > command to get the header, it has no way of *not* reading a message once > it starts. Actually, WWW/LX *does* use the TOP command when downloading the message headers only. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:59 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: th@CSI.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Tony, > Daniel, how did you set up POST/LX to work this way? I only *know* the > way I have it which is it automatically hangs up the ISP connection > when it has downloaded all mail, and stays in POST/LX, which seems > precisely the opposite to what you describe. It doesn't hang up after downloading because of a setting in setup (a checkbox 'hang up after online' or so). I don't want to let shut down the connection automatically. Please see my mail to list+andreas garzotto regarding this. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:49 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: A new toy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, What is a Furby??? GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:55 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Andreas, > > It would be great if Post/LX would do a beep > > after downloading all email > > It is a tiny thing for you too. Add a line such as > > PostOnline=beep.bat > > to the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG (or whatever you want instead of > "beep.bat". That way, POST/LX will execute the specified program upon > return from an online run. Thanks, that's good! Connection isn't closed then? > > > And when I hear the beep I could come back and > > shut down the connection to my ISP. > > Simply check the "hangup" box in SETUP.EXE and POST/LX will shut down > the connection automatically. No, that's not a solution for me. I want to shut down the connecttion manually, because after downloading I maybe want to reply immediately to an email, switch to HV, Telnet, FTP.... without closing the connection. > > > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. > > See above. See above. ;-) (replying immediately...) I mean: the possibility to _manually_ let the modem hang up with a menu item 'Disconnect WWW/LX', for example. > > You might want to have a look at the online help of POST/LX. I had! (Right, Avi??? ;-) ) GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:16:51 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Wow! MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, Avi, Andreas?? This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading each single message. How about such a feature in Post/LX? GTX daniel > As a user of both WWW/LX and Goin' Postal, I can honestly say that Steve has > implemented a seriously cool feature in Goin' Postal. It's the ability to > receive a mailing list digest and exploding it on the palmtop so you can > reply to each individual message. I just got to use this feature for the > first time on a extremely high volume mailing list to which I subscribe (No, > David it's not a porno list ) and I am extremely impressed with this > feature! ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:00:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dina Gathe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dina Gathe Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BE8CEA.0C3977A2" This message is in MIME format. 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John Musielewicz wrote: > > Just wanted to let you know how its going. > > 4.25% response > > Overwhelming in favour of an upgrade. > 2 maybes 0 negatives > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:09:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Wireless LX Connectivity (Extreme) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff Johns wrote: > I think that I can claim without a doubt > that Mack is the first person to check email and news while travelling in > excess of 100 miles an hour, down the interstate on a Code 3 call in a > police car. It was definately cool! Cool! is an understatement. I have typed and transmitted (via cel phone) Email messages while driving on the New York State Thruway, but I was not quite doing 100 miles per hour - I was doing the speed limit. Wireless communications via cel phone and the palmtop is quite an amazing thing. I recently got a PCMCIA modem to work with my palmtop and cel phone. Great stuff. Thanks for posting this message. Would you mind if I forwarded it to the HP Handhelds forum on CompuServe for those palmtopers to enjoy? Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:00:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michael Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Hansen Subject: Postlx make a xov file? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hej After a online with posl/lx it's make a file named filename.xov in my root directory. For what use? Thank you, Michael Hansen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:57:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report: success, on track, long posting! Hello all! Here are the headlines: -Today we tested Palmtop Circuit on the LX of , at the DesignSoft Ltd. office. The machine was 200LX single-speed, with 8MB CF in PCMCIA adapter. PACI went onto the CF card. I could verify, that the sources codes for Palmtop Circuit (it was written in Borland Pascal) still exist, which is relieving. -The program works, both the demo slide-show and the actual circuit analyzer ran on the 200LX fine. Setup was a bit involving, as we had the palmtop and the serial cable, but not the HP Connectivity Pack; which is required for automatic installation. However, the manual way of installation also worked. It ran on desktop fine, too. Skiboy took a few shots of the LX screen running PACI with a digicam; even though lighting conditions were poor, it should be readable. He will post the JPEGs to SUPER maintainers. ******************************* -Software maker, DesignSoft Ltd. (Budapest, Hungary) now sells PACI: The program package consists of these three items: 1pc floppy disk (3,5" 1,44MB) containing Palmtop Circuit 1pc Users' Manual (100 pages A/5 form factor) and the Licence Paper. -It costs 80USD (eighty $), which includes 1-week, air mail shipping of the above package to your address Ýanywhere on planet Earth¨. -A special offer containing Palmtop Circuit AND Tina_for_DOSv.2.67 is available at 149USD (hundred and forty-nine $); 1-week, air-mail. ÝWish to know, what Tina_for_DOS is: I'll send my second posting to HPLX-L within 2hours after posting this message, stay tuned.¨ -The only currently available method of paying is faxing of your: Name, Postal Address, Credit card No., Credit card expirary date; Which package you buy, How many licences you buy, Total amount (USD). Also include a fax number or e-mail address, where you can receive a message from DesignSoft, verifying your order. Fax it to +36-1-332-7777 (Where 36 is the predial to call Hungary). Send your fax after 26th April 1999, 0900GMT, not before! ÝThe very cautious should look at to verify, that the above phone number really and truly belongs to DesignSoft¨ -Licence lets you install Palmtop Circuit on a maximum of 2 computers: one palmtop (HP95/100/200/700LX/1000CX or PoquetPC, Sharp3100, etc.) AND one desktop (described as having physically fixed installation). -Palmtop Circuit's function is to let user design and analyze analog electric circuits and allows for exporting results in HPGL form. The program allows for circuits with a maximum no. of nodes >= 100. Program supports transient, AC, DC, symbolic analysis and optimize. Analysis of digital circuits is not available/possible. Questions welcome. Disclaimer: The above ordering info are official DesingSoft statements. Anything enclosed in square brackets are my opinions only. I will answer further questions according to my best knowledge, which may not be same as the opinion of DesignSoft Ltd. I have no business relation with DesignSoft. ÝI understand that the last sentence would be hard to prove, but please believe it!¨ Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ÝPs: The following is what I say, not by DesingSoft. I would like to make clear, how the (IMO pretty high) price of 80USD was reached. I called them and went back there the 4th time a month ago. They said, I should not ask about Palmtop Circuit over and over, because they will not even touch the archives looking for it, if they cannot make sure that they get at least USD 1,000 this time. They must spend at least 30 manhours digging it up, testing and selling; and their employees could work on more profitable Windows software instead. OK, I knew from previous HPLX-L discussions that over 20 people expressed interest in Palmtop Circuit, so I thought 12+ would buy. I said one dozen licences sure can be sold. They did the math and said 90$; I said that's not fair rounding; OK, they said 80$. That's it.¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:19:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: TaskBar Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Maybe you could put up a web page and share all your 'Tips and Tricks' that you discover for TBLX? Steve -----Original Message----- Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the ÝDEL¨ key. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:18:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904220712.AAA06210@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, A Meshar wrote: > As long as you make the "duel" and "fighting" as harmless and good natured > jostle and an opportinuty to provide lots of education and comparisons and > information, I think too it is being "fought". If it ever went to another > interpretation, I quit! :-) This is scary.... I think we are all having a debate in a rational, mature manner :) Why couldn't those kids in Colorado do that?!? 73 Jeff <---- using PINE on his 200LX as to avoid the GP & WWW/LX debate :) *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:20:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Wow! In-Reply-To: <199904221816.SAA01642@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>; from Daniel Hertrich on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 06:16:51PM +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > How about such a feature in Post/LX? There really is this sort of feature in POST/LX already (sort of). If you use lxdr to read your digests, you can hit a single key while reading the digest and the individual message will show up in your main POST/LX mailbox. lxdr has to be lausnched from within POST/LX, of course. http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lxdr099.zip?dbname=lxdr099.zip&URL=http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/lxdr099.zip Note that this is a special commercial version of lxdr that Rick Kozak will supply... -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:23:27 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Andy writes: > Date sent: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 07:36:51 -0700 > Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, > David Sargeant > From: David Sargeant > Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed > HP > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > > On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > > > What's wrong with typing on the 200LX? I can type with great speed on > > > it. It not even uncomfortable. You just make shorter strokes. The only > > > thing is I wish I could connect a larger screen. It would be a lot > > > easier to use at a desk. > > > > Nothing's wrong with it. I also type with great speed on it. (Granted, > > with SmartCaps turned on.) And the 200LX keyboard is the best palmtop > > keyboard I've ever used. I'm just saying that if I could type as fast as > > I can on the 200LX, on the 320LX, it would be a lot more useful. But it's > > nowhere close. And it's not even the hardware's fault. The response to > > keystrokes is just so terrible that it's more like > seconds> > three seconds>... > > > > And you said this machine was 40 Mhz. > > Thinking about this then, even if the machine was 80 Mhz, it would > still lag? Seems like. Instead, you'd be waiting 1 second. > > If it was a noticeable lag on a 40 Mhz machine, it would still be > noticeable at 80 Mhz. > > Ah well, those are hopeless then. Everything produced in 1997-98 > was probably below 100 Mhz. Considering he's using a word processor that's REALLY bad. He should be working about 50 times as fast! He's using a 32 bit 40 mHz microprocessor with a 32 bit OS. I think they use a 32 bit buss too. That is FAST! You don't NEED 100mHz for that. All you need is a 8 bit 4 mHz system for a properly designed word processing system. You don't NEED much ram you don't need much of anything. All he was doing was TYPING! That shows one hell of a defect in the design. If I take my word processor off my LX, which has a 16 mHz 16 bit 186, where it zooms and put it on a PC 110 where it has a 40 mHz, 32 bit 486 microprocessor with a 16 bit buss it zooms faster not slower. And that doesn't even have a coprocessor! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:28:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: TBLX :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the sample file. I couldn't find the .exe to .exm program on SUPER though. Do you know the name of it? Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > For your non-exm programs there is a > program on the SUPER Site that will corvert .exe, .com, .bat to .exm > its what I used to get POST/LX and a few others to run from the taskBar. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: LX <--> Win95/98 transfer.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Please have a look at the information on the web page listed below. You will find that your use of LLRA on the palmtop to another PC is covered by license. The instructions can help you get started. http://web.raex.com/~striegel/HPLX/LLRA.TXT Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:42:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question In-Reply-To: <199904221825.UAA587030@mail.iprolink.ch> from Andreas Garzotto at "Apr 22, 99 08:25:12 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have to admit I never tried GP. But it seems that lots of stuff is > done similarly in both programs. Maybe this is the reason why both > programs seem to have lots of happy users. I too was quite surprised to hear some of the similarity between them. It's obvious that you've had to experience some of the same shortcomings with other mailers as I did! When I wrote GP, I had alot of things that I wanted to improve after attempting to deal with traveling and multiple email accounts using a couple different Windoze mailers. > I was not trying to say you did something wrong. It just drove me nuts > to listen to people that keep on telling me GP is reducing online time > by downloading the headers twice instead of once and I wanted to have > that point clear. Point taken, and I am sorry for taking it so personally. > also a packet driver needed to run GP or is the 135k really including > everything? My numbers for POST/LX were including everything you need > to have on the palmtop to do email. Yes, 135k includes the packet driver. The jump to 135k just occurred in the beta of V3. V2 was 114k including packet driver. I could probably get V2 down closer to 100k if I had to now, but I don't want to have multiple active versions out there. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:41:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: TBLX :) Comments: To: Edward Moy In-Reply-To: <371F784B.660B48DC@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote: > Thanks for the sample file. I couldn't find the .exe to .exm program on SUPER > though. Do you know the name of it? Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just never had the need to use it. Filename anyone? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:47:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: TBLX :) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just > never had the need to use it. Filename anyone? EXMBATCH, perhaps? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Wow! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading > a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading > each single message. > > How about such a feature in Post/LX? There is a nice digest reader that integrates well with POST/LX. You can find out more about it at ..... I cannot find the URL. A Web search for "POST/LX" and "digest" should reveal it. Another way to reduce size is to get the messages from news.hplx.net. There, most unnneeded headers are removed before they are posted in the group. The delay to the "real" list seems to be just a few seconds and you can get the messages when *you* want and not when they are posted. Quite handy IMO. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290968409__" --__next_part__1290968409__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I mean: the possibility to _manually_ let the modem hang up > with a menu item 'Disconnect WWW/LX', for example. You get that menu item by adding Disconnect WWW/LX=DIS.COM to the ÝExternal¨ section of POST.CFG. DIS.COM is a 7 byte utility that you can find at www.dasoft.com... well I hope nobody minds a 7 byte binary attached to this message... BTW, why don't you do ftp, HV, etc stuff and *then* as a last action do the online run with POST/LX? I always do it that way. So I don't need a beep to remind me that POST/LX is now done and I can do the other stuff. POST/LX simply hangs up when all stuff is done. Andreas --__next_part__1290968409__ Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="dis.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 uAr6zRTNIP== --__next_part__1290968409__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 10:20:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: TBLX (correction) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:46:19 -0700, Quinton Jones Jr = wrote: > > Here is a copy of my setup for your review, maybe that'll get you > start, also its best to have Moreexm installed so you can see/find the > keycodes for your installed .exm. I should have said KeyM instead of Moreexm , but both are neeed anyway. (:-) Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:02:56 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Request (dream?: SmartCaps standalone > On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > I sure am. IDEALLY, I'd like a TSR that makes keystrokes in WP51 behave > more like a normal word processor. i.e., shift+arrows highlights, Fn-Copy > copies, Fn-Date stamps the date, etc. As it is, I can't even set up Alt-F > to select the file menu, because when BuddyDOS is loaded it kills the > {Menu Select} macro code. Sounds like you want to run d:\bin\key200.com, this lets you define specific keys to be other key combinations ====================== David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ====================== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:51:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: GREPing titles for X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi my name is Ed and I'm grep-challenged. :-) But seriously, the documentation for X-Finder mentions a batch file you can run to automate _.xfn creation for describing text files. I couldn't find YGREP so I attempted to run the batch with both GREP and XGREP. Neither worked and I'm figuring that it's because YGREP options are not compatible with other GREPs. As seen in the user's guide : -TITLE.bat- |YGREP -o -U ¬ *.* >$$$.dat |SED -e "s/:/ /g" <$$$.dat >_.xfn |del $$$.dat How do I get this batch file to work with GREP or XGREP, or does someone have YGREP? I've been making the _.xfn file the hard way with a Win95 app so I'd appreciate being able to run this batch on my lx. TIA Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:57:28 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Post/LX PostOnline.bat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Edward J. Morgan wrote: > PostOnline=beep.bat > > My beep.bat is: > > cd C:\sound > playex revel.snd Are you sure beep.bat is on the path? Does it work when you start it manually? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:11:27 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hart@CATHOLIC.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Hart Subject: (none) I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to do something like this. I think it has some to do with the apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I just have forgotten how to do this. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:10:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Key remapping Comments: To: hart@CATHOLIC.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Look in D:\BIN\KEY200.TXT The built-in key200 program can do what you want and the text shows an example of remapping the Memo key to do NoteTaker instead. Your case will be a bit more complicated, but I think the text can show you the way. - Longden David Hart on 04/22/99 06:11:27 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to hart@CATHOLIC.ORG To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: (none) I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to do something like this. I think it has some to do with the apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I just have forgotten how to do this. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:12:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: TBLX :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 12:47:58 -0700, David Sargeant = wrote: > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > > > Me either, but I could swear I had seen it there before now. I just > > never had the need to use it. Filename anyone? > > EXMBATCH, perhaps? Yea! Thats it. It by Rod Whitby. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:17:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: TBLX :) In-Reply-To: <199904222012.NAA26563@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > Yea! Thats it. It by Rod Whitby. Available at http://exmbatch.hplx.net. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:16:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Screen light. Source in UK? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290814561__" --__next_part__1290814561__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on = the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the = body of the torch when not in use. Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK? --__next_part__1290814561__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290814561__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:16:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Pseudo Sychronising HP200 with PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290828299__" --__next_part__1290828299__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been using the HP connectivity pack for quite a few years now. Once = every week, I'd back up my C drive to a directory on my PC. I'd also = point the CPACK200 software at that directory so that I could read my = agenda or phonebook etc. from the PC if I needed a larger screen or = faster speed etc. Since I got my CF card, backups take ages, and I was playing with a way = to use PKZIP to backup only files that had changed, then restore those to = my PC. About a month ago I discovered a neat "one way synchronisation" that = exists within the connectivity pack. I apologise if everyone knows this = already, but surely I can't be the only one to have missed this feature? With the filer showing the root of your HP's C or A drive, use File->Backu= p from the filer app on the PC. Select 'All directories and files' and = check the boxes for 'Modified files only' and 'Overwrite existing files'. = It even remembers the path on the PC where you last backed up to! This will back up only the files that have changed since the last backup. = Great for skipping .EXE files etc. If you point your PC's agenda or = phonebook prog to the backup directory, you can always view a fairly = up-to-date file. The "synchronisation-of-sorts" only works one way. I guess you could modify files on the PC and "backup" it back to the HP = if you reset all the archive attributes on the PC's directory after the = HP to PC backup. However, if I modify a file on the PC, I just copy it = back afterwards. Hope this helps someone else. --__next_part__1290828299__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290828299__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:19:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Need postcards for 4th grade class project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear fellow palmtop users: I am sorry to take up a little bandwidth here, but this is for my daughter's fourth grade class project. So please DON'T REPLY TO THIS LIST - send all replys to me privately at . Thanks. My daughter's fourth grade class at school is doing a "Global Greetings Project" in which the students collect postcards sent to them from all over the United States and the world. For each postcard they receive, they put a marker on a large wall map of the USA or the world to show where the postcard came from. We would appreciate your help with this class project. If you could, please send a postcard from where you live, or from anywhere you happen to visit that is far away from New Jersey. They would like to collect as many postcards from the different United States and other countries around the world as possible before the end of the school year in June. They have already been mailed postcards from the following states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Hawaii, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia. And from the following countries: Bahamas, Canada, Cayman Islands BWI, Costa Rica, England, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, Poland, Portland, Puerto Rico, Spain, St. Martin, Switzerland, Turkey. I don't want to post the postal mailing address on the list, so send an Email to me at (NOT A REPLY TO THE LIST) and I will tell you the address of her classroom. Thanks, in advance, for any and all help we get with this project. And I know international postcards are more expensive than those within the USA, so a special thanks to those international people who help us with this. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:26:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Key redefine? Comments: To: hart@CATHOLIC.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which > is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to > remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to > do something like this. I think it has some to do with the > apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I > just have forgotten how to do this. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:26:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Key redine Comments: To: hart@CATHOLIC.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 13:11:27 GMT, David Hart wrote: > I want to redefine an third-party exm program to the blue key which > is used for the phone database. How do I do this? I used to > remember how to do this but is has been so long since I wanted to > do something like this. I think it has some to do with the > apname.lst file. Sorry for asking such a newbie-type question but I > just have forgotten how to do this. I use ExKey, I think its available on the SUPER Site. Its easy to use once you install it. Just add the below line to your autoexec.bat: c:\exkey -fc:\_dat\exkey.ini All of the re-mapping in done in the exkey.ini file that you create. example: {ALT+MENU}=3D{ALT+F9} {FILER}=3D{ALT+F8}{CTRL} {MORE}=3D{ALT+F4}{CTRL} after you create your exkey.ini and make your changes just re-boot and your done. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Good Battery Source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: I'd like to share a good source I just found for non-rechargeable AA's. Bulb Direct in Pittsford NY (800)772-5267 Duracell Ultra Alkalines, AA or AAA @ $0.70 ea bulk(4/bx) Energizer L91-2 Li AAs: $4.71 a pair 2 Day shipping/handling/insurance is $4.95 within the US "48" Actually they say shipping is FREE, it is the handling & insurance that costs $4.95 ;-) note: I see from the "1800BATTERIES" catalog, they want $5.00 for a 4 pak of the Duracell ULTRAs, and $8.00 for the Energizer Li (add $ 2.50 handling charge & $8.75 for 2-day ship) I have no connection with this company, just a happy customer. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:01:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Problem release list, Palmtop Circuit update mix; Siemens SL10. Hello all, Apparently there was some problem releasing the list this time. I sent two posting up to this time: FIRST was about Palmtop Circuit testing and buy update; SECOND was about TINA for DOS v2.xx compared to Palmtop Circuit; THIRD should be a partial extract of the TINA manual, not yet sent. Strangely, the second posting got into the latest digest, while the first one couldn't as far as I can see. BTW, I got the usual caution messages about list not released yet for BOTH posting and yes, I got the caution message for post #1 before sending post#2. So, please wait for the tomorrow digest that has the first posting and read that carefully, to prevent confusion; because what I wrote in second posting implicitly requires reading the first one before. I think I can send the third posting Friday 2200GMT or Saturday. I am sorry for the confusion. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. Ps: Have you looked at Siemens SL-10 dual 900/1800MHz band GSM phone? I heard this is the third phone to support standard IrDA comms after Nokia's entry and the Ericsson SH-888. It may be suitable for use with the HP200LX as a wireless modem, I hope. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:05:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: EXMBatch and KeyM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it to work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the codes that Task Bar wants? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:08:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: GREPing titles for X-Finder Comments: To: Edward Moy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT) 46m20s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote: > I've been making the _.xfn file the hard way with a Win95 > app so I'd appreciate being able to run this batch on my lx. Egad! Why use Windoze for this? Just highlight the file you want to give a long name to in X-Finder, hit the comma key, and a dialog box pops up. Type your name in and ÝEnter¨ - Voila! - you have an _.xfn file. You can do this for any number of files to add more titles to the .xfn It won't be automatic like the grep batch file, but you don't need Windoze... HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:08:54 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard Andy writes: > Date sent: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400 > Send reply to: RickRae@usa.net > From: Rick Rae > Subject: WTB: 200LX Motherboard > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > > I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and > > didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries > > backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter. I'm looking into having > > You can do that with this machine? I thought all these kinds of > machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted. Putting batteries in anything is such a no-brainer. How could anyone mess it up? Manufacturers make it so obvious how they go in. Do you think there's a reason for that? Even in flashlights, which don't have polarity, it is obvious how they go. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:22:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:12:58 -0400 (EDT) 07m20s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it = to > work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the > codes that Task Bar wants? Well, you need to make a copy of exmbatch.exm and rename it. Then patch the renamed file with debug as per the instructions. After that, use KeyM to view your presently installed PIMs and EXMs - pick an unused key, and hit the F-key labeled ScanCd to show the keycode. Use that keycode to add the file to MoreEXM, and reboot. Then you can add a line something like newapp=3D#### (where #### is the keycode) to tblx.dat HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:26:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: GREPing titles for X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wish it was that easy. Well, the secret is that I've been downloading the New York Times and trying to use X-Finder to help me read it on the lx. I run Bruce Guthrie's htmstrip on the articles and then use a Windoze program called TheRename to find the file first 30 characters of each resultant text file. I don't use TheRename to rename; it previews what the file names will be and I am then able to save that list as a text file. I then do some minor editing and voila I have a usable _.xfn for *200* articles. But it would be _much_ faster if I could just transfer all the articles to the lx and just run something like the TITLE.bat mentioned in the X-Finder guide. btw The I give the articles an extension of .nws and associate it with a freeware program called btype (BigType - a sibling of BigEd). The large fonts make it much easier on my eyes. Ed Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:37:39 -0400 (EDT) > > 46m20s ago ... > On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote: > > > I've been making the _.xfn file the hard way with a Win95 > > app so I'd appreciate being able to run this batch on my lx. > > Egad! Why use Windoze for this? Just highlight the file you want to > give a long name to in X-Finder, hit the comma key, and a dialog box > pops up. Type your name in and ÝEnter¨ - Voila! - you have an _.xfn > file. You can do this for any number of files to add more titles to > the .xfn It won't be automatic like the grep batch file, but you > don't need Windoze... > > HTH > > -Peniel > ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:49:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:05:11 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: > Okay, I just downloaded EXMBatch and what is the simplest way to use it = to > work with TaskBar? Also, can someone explain how to use KeyM to get the > codes that Task Bar wants? Ok 73 Jeff, I'll give it a shot. To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called "c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following: c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0 w q Note: prior to running the above command copy a copy of both exmbatch.exm = and debug.exe to your WWW/LX directory. Note: Debug can be found is in your D:\DOS. To see the key codes with KeyM just press Scancd (F8). BTW: If you haven't already download the newest version of KeyM from the same site that you got TaskBar. Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed? HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:17:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: GREPing titles for X-Finder Comments: To: Edward Moy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:08:38 -0400 (EDT) 01h42m30s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Edward Moy wrote: > ... I am then able to save that list as a > text file. I then do some minor editing and voila I have a usable = _.xfn > for *200* articles. But it would be _much_ faster if I could just > transfer all the articles to the lx and just run something like the > TITLE.bat mentioned in the X-Finder guide. Ahh - I see your point. Creating Extra Names for 200 files by hand sure would be impractical. Don't know much about grep syntax, but looking thru the xgrep doc file, it looks like the commands would need to be a lot different from the batch file in the XF docs. If I find Ygrep, I'll let you know. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:23:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Claude_Holle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Claude_Holle Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: Bennett Todd Is there some information on the care and feeding of rechargables using batset? For example what are the best charge rate/ times for different types of rechargables etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bennett Todd To: Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX > 1999-04-22-15:46:00 Claude_Holle: > > What is batset? > > Batset is a teensy end-and-remain-ignorant, I'm pretty sure it's available > from S.U.P.E.R., lets you control how long the LX's builtin battery charger > remains on "high-current". The LX has two charge rates; by default I think it > runs 6 hours of high-current charging before falling off to trickle. That's > cool if your batteries are new, or dead, or otherwise deeply discharged, but > when they're nearly full, the high-current charge can over-heat them. Trickle > charging doesn't. > > > I would like to get off the re-usable train, but am scared > > after scary experiences with NiCads. Are NiMH's that much better? > > Highly recommended. People have had their brains engraved with the lore that > "NiCds have memory effect", it's actually branded, you can see it deeply > seared into the brain folds. They cannot hear or learn anything else. So > changing to NiMHs is wildly comforting since people haven't been convinced > that NiMhs have memory effect, and can hear you when you say they don't:-). > > Seriously, though, NiMHs are available in higher capacity (at least from Radio > Shack) than NiCds. Plus they're maybe a bit lighter-weight. May even tolerate > more charge/discharge cycles, though I ran NiCds or years, and run NiMH's for > years, keeping 'em always topped up, and expecting many hours of run-time and > weeks of sleep time whenever I step away from my charger. > > -Bennett > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:09:25 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: TaskBar Comments: To: Longden Loo In-Reply-To: <8825675B.0061FC75.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT not if you are using moreexm (there is no icon). it good to be able to see all the task running. having menu and sub menu is great. You can say to your girlfriend your are now running WIN95 on your LX. :) Alain > At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting > the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6. > > - Longden > > > > > > Quinton Jones Jr on 04/22/99 10:41:57 AM > > Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond > to Quinton Jones Jr > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) > > Subject: Re: TaskBar > > > > > > TBLX is the program that I use to dream about, even tried to convince > a few to create such a program awhile back and it true good things do come > to those who wait & dream. (:-) > > Like I said earlier this year 1999 is going to be a great year. Just > look at all of the new stuff that we've encouterd already and its > only April. (:-) > > Tip: To close an open task from the TaskBar tab to it and press the ÝDEL¨ key. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:11:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM Comments: To: qman@earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-22 04:49pm CDT, the following was written: > To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called > "c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following: > > c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm > e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0 > w > q Okay, I can do that, but the docs talk about Software Carousel and the 385x numbers in the second line above and I don't have Software Carousel installed. Is the above '3857' the correct number that I should use? > Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed? Yes, as I understand it, it will not allow the display of an icon, correct? 73 Jeff FWIW... 73 means best wishes to we amateur radio operators (hams) *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:44:24 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP >> Why not just make the HP200LX a fully functional serially connected >> node on your network, use a Station 100 base shell as docking station, >> and then simply use "rcon" from your desktop computer? ;-) > >Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer. If the ultimate purpose was not to enable more effective remote use of a HP200LX or if the resulting data didn't ultimately need to be moved to the HP200LX, then yes. As long as one is near a stand alone desktop computer, it would be much easier to simply use the stand alone desktop and cut the HP200LX out of the loop, all together. However, if the ultimate purpose was to edit or input a sizable amount of text into a document or file that was already stored and used on the HP200LX, then a simple slide-in network connection to your nearby desktop would offer the most efficient input method without resorting to sneaker net (or the CF shuffle). I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the road. Cheers, John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, MIchigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:39:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: TaskBar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After looking at Taskbar briefly I can see that it could possibly be an all-in-one for those of us who are using programs like Tasklist, PocketLauncher and/or 200mnu. Right now Tasklist and Launcher work well together for me -- but I'd love to find out TBLX's full capabilities. And, of course there is the "gee whiz" factor! ;-) Alain wrote: > not if you are using moreexm (there is no icon). > it good to be able to see all the task running. > having menu and sub menu is great. > > You can say to your girlfriend your are now running WIN95 on your LX. > :) > Alain > > At the risk of sounding somewhat jaded, I can close an app already by hilighting > > the icon in AppMgr and pressing F6. > > > > - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:51:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Shoulder Harness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the past there have been requests for a shoulder harness that will hold a HPLX. One of my favorite knife makers has a solution. JSP Bladrigger's Associate Harness and EQ Bag carry a LX in comfort with room to spare. My EQ bag arrived today and after trying it on my shoulder harness, I am hooked. JSP stuff is not cheap but the quality is beyond reproach. http://www.bladerigger.com Colin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:01:16 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: WTB: 200LX Motherboard Comments: To: avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET In-Reply-To: <199904221752.PAA25127@firma.thezone.net> Well, you can definitely put 'em in wrong. To paraphrase a friend's comment from the days of 5 1/4" floppys, "There are four ways to insert batteries in the 200LX, only one of which is particularly interesting." (Trivia: there are also four ways to insert a 3.5" disk. But there were EIGHT ways to insert 5 1/4" and 8" floppies.) As to zapping the machine, I can't *swear* that's what happened. But it was working when I loaned it to him, and it wasn't when he sheepishly and sorrowfully handed it back to me. And he says it quit right after he put NiMHs in that he took out of his digital camera, because he didn't have any other AAs and needed to finish some stuff "right then." I remember reading a long time ago that you could fry an LX if you put in certain kinds of batteries backwards. I don't recall if it was lithiums or NiMHs... but now I'm thinking the latter can do it. As far as I know, putting carbon-zinc, alkaline, or NiCads in backwards won't cause any problem; according to what I remember reading, it was the higher current availability of lithiums or NiMHs that caused the problem. And that's the thing, I guess; when the LX series was designed, I don't think these newer battery chemistries weren't widely available. HP probably designed the machines to be safe with the batteries of the day. "It's impossible to plan for the unexpected, by definition." Rick, who is still hoping someone has a 200LX motherboard to sell. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/22/99, at 3:25 PM, Andy wrote: >Date sent: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:05:06 -0400 >Send reply to: RickRae@usa.net >From: Rick Rae >Subject: WTB: 200LX Motherboard >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > >> I have a 200LX that has "bit the dust" -- a friend who borrowed it and >> didn't understand the HP way of things apparently inserted NiMH batteries >> backwards and "fried" the power supply inverter. I'm looking into having > >You can do that with this machine? I thought all these kinds of >machines would be unaffected by how batteries are inserted. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:08:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: VI Editor Clones Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904220212.VAA04619x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS? ============================================== At 08:37 PM 4/21/99 -0500, you wrote: >On 04-21 06:21pm CDT, the following was written: > >> Well, uh. Qedit works great. Personally, I use one of the three vi >> clones for all my HTML editing, but have on occassion used Qedit. >> YMMV. > >While we are speaking of vi editors, can anyone give me a brief tutorial of >it. I generally use pico, but I'm having to learn vi to work with the little >Minix set up on the LX..... unless I could install pico?!? > >73 Jeff > > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* > |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | > | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| > |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | > *------------------------------------------------------------------* > >Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.02beta) REGISTERED > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:20:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can supply Lotus Works (disks and docs) for much cheaper than $95. Make an offer. ========================================== >From: Bob Meyer >Subject: Re: LotusWorks? (Was RE: Wanted: Alphaworks) >Comments: To: Terry Owen >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > >A computer business associate has a copy of Lotus Works shrink wrapped for >$95. > >Bob Meyer >bmeyer@union-tel.com >Elk Mountain WY > >Terry Owen wrote: > >> Following this lead, I found that AlphaWorks became LotusWorks and is >> now discontinued according to the Lotus website. Anyone have a copy of >> LotusWorks they want to unload? >> >> Terry >> towen@quintrex.com >> owen6511@earthlink.net >> >> p.s. I would have never thought of looking at dogpile.com >> >> > ---------- >> > From: Russell HemeryÝSMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨ >> > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List; Russell Hemery >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 12:09 PM >> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >> > Subject: Re: Wanted: Alphaworks >> > >> > I searched using www.dogpile.com using info you tendered. Electric >> > Software >> > Alphaworks. >> > >> > Try http://www.glowcode.com/summary.htm >> > >> > It seems they may be the people mentioned. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Russell >> > Sleepless in Ozland (3am) >> > >> > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >> >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:25:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: LXNNTP & Errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:41:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: TaskBar In-Reply-To: <199904230040.RAA31660@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone gotten TaskBar to display something under the Programs menu without having it all garbled? If so, how? I'm running TB with MoreEXM and SMMX... TB comes up allright, and I can do the basic stuff (like "shutdown the LX) but everytime I go to display Programs, it's weird. HELP! Thanks, Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:01:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: TaskBar Comments: To: Bill Childers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:49:12 -0400 (EDT) 07m54s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > Has anyone gotten TaskBar to display something under the Programs menu > without having it all garbled? If so, how? I'm running TB with = MoreEXM > and SMMX... TB comes up allright, and I can do the basic stuff (like > "shutdown the LX) but everytime I go to display Programs, it's weird. Hmmm - do you have tblx.dat in c:\_dat? You should also have the Ýprogram¨ section of the .dat file listing your .EXMs with an =3D sign and the hex code for the hotkey. Check out QMan's post earlier today where he had his tblx.dat file. It works fine for me. But I'd really like to know if it can launch DOS apps without putting each one into exmbatch... HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:01:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:55:19 -0400 (EDT) 01h43m20s ago ... On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > > Also confirming that you've already got Moreexm installed? > > Yes, as I understand it, it will not allow the display of an icon, = correct? Not quite. MoreEXM doesn't provide for an icon, but it won't stop you from using one. I have icons for loads of apps installed with MoreEXM displayed for launching with XF. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:36:59 +0930 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: New version of KeyM available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those of you who use KeyM, I just found a new version of it on Cargo's web page: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/download/keym100.lzh The only difference I can see from the version on SUPER (0.34) is that you can now tell KeyM to exit before running the program you select. To do this, add the following line at the start of your keym.dat file: QUIT,1 For the old behaviour (KeyM stay open in the background), either leave the line out altogether, or put QUIT,0 Can we get our SUPER Japanese translator to confirm that this is the only difference ? -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:27:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: TaskBar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-22 09:01pm CDT, the following was written: > It works fine for me. But I'd really like to know if it can launch DOS > apps without putting each one into exmbatch... Ditto! I really like the software, but it would be much simpler if someone could find a way to make it launch DOS programs in a simple manner. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:24:00 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ebbe Horneman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ebbe Horneman Subject: SV: Re: Infrared Port (2) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This schematic sounds like it would be useful to me to. Would it be to = much bother to send me a copy to? Please!... -Ebbe ********************************************* *Ebbe Horneman Tlf:94368467* *PB 2055 :61288975* *2600 Lillehammer FAX:61269593* *Norway * *ebbeh@online.no calsign:LC2RAT* *ehornema@maihaugen.museum.no * ********************************************* -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Daniel Hertrich Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Dato: 21. april 1999 23:29 Emne: Re: Infrared Port (2) >Hi again, > >> While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work = hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the = LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can = communicate with another LX or with a Jetey >e >> , if I had one :-( > >Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own: >It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card) >with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it. >It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard. >This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board. >In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so >I can use COM2 with the IR device. >Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR. >Here only HPSIR seems to work. > >If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board, >I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device. > >GTX >daniel > >------------------------------------------------- >Daniel Hertrich >Germany >email: d.hertrich@gmx.de >------------------------------------------------- > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:13:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: GREPing titles for X-Finder-YESSS!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9DCA3ABAC60C1EB10A50C6BE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9DCA3ABAC60C1EB10A50C6BE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------619AD3EB4CAAD040407A8D1D" --------------619AD3EB4CAAD040407A8D1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to thank Laust for coming up with the magic batch file attached below. You need SED and XGREP in your path. Put title.bat in the directory with the files and run it. The resulting tst.txt can be renamed _.xfn and is usable as is. Thanks again Laust! --------------619AD3EB4CAAD040407A8D1D Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to thank Laust for coming up with the magic batch file attached below.  You need SED and XGREP in your path.  Put title.bat in the directory with the files and run it.  The resulting tst.txt can be renamed _.xfn and is usable as is.  Thanks again Laust! --------------619AD3EB4CAAD040407A8D1D-- --------------9DCA3ABAC60C1EB10A50C6BE Content-Type: application/x-unknown-content-type-batfile; name="Index.bat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Index.bat" eGdyZXAgLWwgIl4iICouKiA+IHRlbXAuMDAxDQpzZWQgLWUgInMvXlwoLitcKS9zZWQgLW4g XCIxLDEgc1wvXFwoLitcXClcL1wxIFxcMVwvcFwiIFwxID4+IHRzdC50eHQvIiB0ZW1wLjAw MSA+IHRzdC5iYXQNCnJlbSA+IHRzdC50eHQNCmNhbGwgdHN0LmJhdA0K --------------9DCA3ABAC60C1EB10A50C6BE-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:14:13 -0700 Reply-To: Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: ÝHPLX¨ Re: TaskBar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone point me to where I can find this Taskbar? I tried searching for taskbar on the super site but I couldn't find it. Thanks -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com -----Original Message----- From: Edward Moy >After looking at Taskbar briefly I can see that it could possibly be an all-in-one for >those of us who are using programs like Tasklist, PocketLauncher and/or 200mnu. Right >now Tasklist and Launcher work well together for me -- but I'd love to find out TBLX's >full capabilities. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:43:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Infrared Port (2) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would also like to receive a copy. Thanks Bob Meyer bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi again, > > > While some of us are discussing their dreams about the LX, I work hard to get more out of it. I currently use only half of the power the LX has. If I could use the infrared port, it would be more. I only can communicate with another LX or with a Jetey > e > > , if I had one :-( > > Regarding the jeteye: I've made such a device on my own: > It's a little case (maybe of the size of a type III PCMCIA-card) > with a IR transmitter and a few resistors and capacitors in it. > It's connected to a 5-pin-connector on my SOYO-motherboard. > This connector is called 'IR' in the manual of the board. > In the BIOS I can set this IR-port to the UART of COM2, so > I can use COM2 with the IR device. > Also I can toggle in the BIOS between IrDA, ASKIR _AND_ HPSIR. > Here only HPSIR seems to work. > > If you also have such a 5-pin-connector on your board, > I could send you the circuit board layout of my IR-device. > > GTX > daniel > > ------------------------------------------------- > Daniel Hertrich > Germany > email: d.hertrich@gmx.de > ------------------------------------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:31:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: VI Editor Clones In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990422210849.00a37a10@mailhub.exis.net> from "Don E. Weatherly" at Apr 22, 99 09:08:49 pm Content-Type: text Don: > Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS? Perhaps I should preface my comments with a correction - I don't know for sure that these are THE three vi clones. I just happen to have three. There may well be more that I don't have/know about. CALVIN ELVIS VIM For fairly heavy, serious editing, especially of program source code, I use vim. It has some nice syntax formatting capabilities for C and ASM and nearly every other kind of source code you can think of. Also, there's a pretty nice desktop GUI version called GVIM that I enjoy using when I'm at the BIG computer. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:16:58 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Comments: To: Tamas Feher MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Tamas, > OK, I knew from previous HPLX-L discussions that over 20 people > expressed interest in Palmtop Circuit, so I thought 12+ would buy. I > said one dozen licences sure can be sold. They did the math and said > 90$; I said that's not fair rounding; OK, they said 80$. That's it.¨ Does that mean, if maybe 20 people are interested in buying _and will_ buy it, the price could be dropped to US$50? We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software costs only 25 US$ then! Maybe you could make a little survey for the interested people with checkboxes like this: Ý ¨ I will buy PaCi for 25 US$ if we are 40 interested people Ý ¨ I will buy PaCi for 50 US$ if we are 20 interested people Ý ¨ I will buy PaCi for 80 US$ if we are 12 interested people Then you can count how much checked the same box, then you (or DesignSoft) can decide who gets the program and for what price it's sold. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:16:55 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Tinyprog MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, i have a program called tinyprog.exe. It shrinks exe and com files to a (sometimes much) lower size. Does anyone know how this works? It doesn't seem to cause a longer loading time of the shrinked program. What I want to know is: Could I (for example) shrink programs like www.exe, post.exe (from www/lx) without problems? They are on my c: drive where I need every little piece of space I can get! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:17:02 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Andreas, > You get that menu item by adding > > Disconnect WWW/LX=DIS.COM > > to the ÝExternal¨ section of POST.CFG. DIS.COM is a 7 byte utility that > you can find at www.dasoft.com... well I hope nobody minds a 7 byte That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that! Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know how to make it able to! > > BTW, why don't you do ftp, HV, etc stuff and *then* as a last action do > the online run with POST/LX? I always do it that way. So I don't need a > beep to remind me that POST/LX is now done and I can do the other > stuff. POST/LX simply hangs up when all stuff is done. Often I get emails (for example from the list) which tell me to look up something or wake my interest in looking up something on the web, so I have to download the emails _first_ and then use HV or FTP. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:17:06 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Screen light. Source in UK? Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on > the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the > body of the torch when not in use. > > Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK? i Sorry, not in UK, but in Germany: Conrad Electronic sells them, too. Maybe you find it with a look at www.conrad.de. They cost a few DM (3 DM, if I recall right). But I find this light not very useful, because of the arm that's not solid enough and the need of external battery. I've made my own solution for lightning the LX's screen, which uses the palmtop-internal batteries, is lighter than the "flexlite" and more solid: look at www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html There I described how to make it. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:45:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: TBLX, where is it? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sorry but I never did catch where this could be downloaded from. Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, KU4ET ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:28:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:59:58 -0500, "Stanley, John L." wrote: > Did you intend to type: > e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0 > Isn't it really suppose to be: > e 3857 "c:\postxl\www.bat" 0 > (only one period...)¬ > > Or did I misread the EXM docs? > ... John L. Stanley Yeap! Its a mistake. I was a little heavy on the thumb. (:-) Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:26:01 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Malcolm & Karyn Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Malcolm & Karyn Subject: new screen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now unreadable. It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to the extent that it is unreadable. I did speak with HP in the US about obtaning another one which they would send me but the cost was rather high. I used my LX as a price book with the data base holding records of over 4600 items. a phone list of over 350 contacts and had other databases that held orders. product enquiries. and other such usefull ideas with buddy loaded to give me macros for changing between databases. I even had a macro that would print the current records based on a filter to a text file that EXPs fax software could pickup and faxe out. the macro opened minifax and then a second macro would choose the file and the destination number depending on where i was located. Does the memory upgrade of 32/64 meg overcome the built in database record limit of 5000 recs. I have looked at all the options out there for a replacement for the LX but as far as i can tell nothing quite does it like the LX. There is nothing quite like the data base and the way it can be custiomised and for the data card to show you only what you want a customer to see. The question i have is does some one know where i can get a cheap screen from or does some one have a broke LX with a good screen that i could purchase from them to get me going as i have rather major withdrawl symptions. Regards Malcolm Salisbury ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:08:17 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: LXNNTP & Errors Jeff Johns writes: > Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the > wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the > incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run? I don't think so. I looked high and low. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:14:43 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: VI Editor Clones In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990422210849.00a37a10@mailhub.exis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote: > Can you provide the names of the three vi clone editors for HPLX DOS? Well, there is Calvin, which although not complete (no regular expressions for instance) is very small and popular on this list. ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/calvin23.zip Another vi clone is VIM - Vi Improved. From what I've heard it has pretty much everything. The latest version will not run on the LX (or at least too slowly to be of any use), but I'm sure someone can provide you with an older version that can. Elvis, is yet another editor. Like VIM it has several enhanced features: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/editor/elv18exe.zip There are lots of other clones/implementationms, including some commercial ones, such as the one in the MKS (Mortice Kern Systems) UNIX toolkit. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:03:20 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Dean Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Dean Subject: Re: Dream machine (Was: WinCE is a symptom...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Franklin writes: > > How about lobotomizing a HP360LX? :-) Change it's ROM? Better than the XTCE > project? > Well, you could keep the screen, case and keyboard and build a whole new machine. All you could do by changing the ROM tough, is put XTCE (or a program like it) into ROM, and all that would do is make it run even slower. An H/PC does not have any of the conventional PC hardware present, you can only emulate the conventional PC hardware with software and what is present in the H/PC. Ian Dean Author of XTCE http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:57:20 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Dean Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Dean Subject: XTCE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone on this list wrote: > > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they > > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time > > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when > > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are > > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this > > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful > > and interesting. > > So much for a test of "new technology" > > I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on > estimating what it will take to port the workload many of > us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in > pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on > all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived > at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to > process the same workload. > > Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using > the XTCE. > > In the meeting where their teams presented their findings, > I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about > why the estimates were so low! :) > > Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was > pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can > accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot. > > Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population > would have to lose a significant portion of their > brainpower to buy that joke! Well, Hewlett-Packard must be very impressed with their HP Jornada 820 then. It manages to run every benchmark and trial that I've tried on XTCE on it at the same speed or faster than a 20Mhz 80186 (ie. faster than a double speed HP200LX). In most cases it runs them up to 2x faster than an IBM AT too (8Mhz 80286). I thought that this message was bullsh*t when I first read it, now I'm sure. The HP Jornada 820 can run XTCE for around 10 hours constantly from it's battery and doesn't even get warm. The other new CE machines like the Sharp Tripad and Mobilon Pro run at these kind of speeds too. Some people like DOS and some people like Windows CE. If you don't like Windows CE, that's fine, but please don't make up stories about my software. Ian Dean Author of XTCE http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:40:53 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Backlighting Comments: To: hart@CATHOLIC.ORG MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, > I don't know if Thaddeus is listening but I would pay real money > for a backlit HP200LX that didn't require an external power supply. > Would I use it all the time? No, just when I had the HP plugged in > and when occasionally I would want to use it at night (looking up a > phone number next to a payphone for example). would you also pay money for a front-lit solution that requires no external power supply??? 8-) Take a look at www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html there you'll find my light solution that works very well. It's powered by the internal batteries and simply plugged into the serial port. And you don't have to pay lots of money. GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:57:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: TBLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the EXMEXE on super. Isn't it this program, that creates an EXE to start an EXM? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:53:25 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: Re: Wow! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the EXM to EXE 'converter' is: exmex100.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:42:37 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To TBLX users, what function(s) does TBLX give you that makes it worthwhile to install and use? The main function is: you can show it to the CE, GameboyPilot and Psion guys and tell them: "This is Windows LX". That's worthwile, isn't it? -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:16:01 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: for vi users MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I was using vi myself on any Unix system. and Xvi on msdos. Xvi is a vi clone for dos witch give you the posibility to have more than one window (text open) at the same time regards Alain PS: it's a DP program with source Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:09:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: Re: ÝHPLX¨ Re: TaskBar Comments: To: Tim Shephard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Try: http://member.nifty.ne.jp/cargo/hp200lx2.htm#TBLX The program is called TBLX. To download the program, click the floppydisk icon in the top right corner of the box marked TBLX. Mitch is trying to get permission from the author (CARGO) and will then should be able to add it to the SUPER site.... BTW, this is also the author of the very useful KeyM program. The newest version of KeyM is also available from the same web page mentioned above. ... John L. Stanley -- John L. Stanley Sr. Software Engineer - ADDCO Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Shephard Ýmailto:pacific@CASTLES.COM¨ Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 10:14 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: ÝHPLX¨ Re: TaskBar Can someone point me to where I can find this Taskbar? I tried searching for taskbar on the super site but I couldn't find it. Thanks -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:00:30 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Steven Lawson writes: > > With the LX's instant on, it is a much better bet for a quick look-see > > in an airport lounge than my laptop > > I can personally vouch for this, having taken a number of trips where I > left my laptop at home. I can pop into one of these airport 'business > cubicles', download my mail, and be ready to catch my next flight before > most of the other people have gotten their laptops plugged in and booted. When I started my new job 2 years ago I knew I would be traveling on business. I bought my 200LX with that in mind and have *never* taken anything else. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:05:19 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: New game for 100/200LX - Snake Curtis Cameron writes: > I've posted a preliminary version of the classic game "Snake". If > anyone's interested, let me know what you think. You can get it at > http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html Well, you've done it again. Great game, thanks *very* much! Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 23:17:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Edward Moy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edward Moy Subject: Re: GREPing titles for X-Finder-YESSS!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry I meant to send that inline and not as a binary. Doh! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:07:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: Claude_Holle In-Reply-To: <014b01be8d17$1c4068e0$a103dd18@phx37210>; from Claude_Holle on Thu, Apr 22, 1999 at 04:23:19PM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-22-23:23:19 Claude_Holle: > Is there some information on the care and feeding of rechargables using > batset? For example what are the best charge rate/ times for different types > of rechargables etc. Probably, somewhere. I dunno where. A very simple approach works for me; it worked with Radio Shack 850mAH NiCds (their "Hi Capacity"), and it works like a champ with the Radio Shack NiMH's (I forget their rating; 1200mAH?). What I do is, when I first start with a brand new pair, disable batset (or do this bit before you first install it). Plug the LX into AC, swap in the brand new (stone dead) batteries, and set it to start charging. Go away for 6 hours. Unplug it and plug it back in, to start a second 6-hour high-current charging cycle. At this point your NiCds are topped off, or your NiMH's are well on up there. Now add to your autoexec.bat "batset /c/t=00:01", which tells batset to install and-and-remain-resident, watch the charger, and turn it down to trickle after one minute of high-current charging. Then I have one AC adaptor on my night table; I plug it in whenever I'm sleeping (it's also my alarm clock:-). I have another adaptor at my desk; whenever I'm there it's plugged in and trickling. The theory here is that recently-made rechargable batteries are mainly slain by overcharging at high current and hence overheating, or excessively deep discharging (particularly for serial battery sets, where any imbalance between cells and the first cell down gets reverse voltage across it). So don't deeply discharge the batteries in normal operation, and don't push 'em up past full with high current. A trickle doesn't seem to hurt them. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:38:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: GREPing titles for X-Finder-YESSS!! Comments: To: Edward Moy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Congratulations! Glad to hear you have it working. 8-) Tried to find YGREP, but only came up with windoze versions... Regards -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:42:01 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Tinyprog Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:16 PM 23/04/99 GMT, you wrote: >Hi list, > >i have a program called tinyprog.exe. >It shrinks exe and com files to a (sometimes much) >lower size. Hi Daniel Compression effectively replaces frequently used data segments with shorter ones. To illustrate if you had a DB of web sites you could save some space by changing the "http://www." in every address to say "¬" That way one character replaces eleven. It then takes a little time to write it out in full whenever the ¬ is encountered..Therefore the short delay. I hope this is the question you asked and has been answered satisfactorily. Since you are short on C: space here are 2 things to try if you havent already. 1 is to Jam your C: drive. Jam125.zip is on Super I believe. Essentially doubles your disk space by using "on the fly" compression. 2 is to look at http://web.act.by.net/~act/act-exepack.html and find a stronger compression prog than tinyprog that suits your needs. I am still in process of collating results of LX compatible compression progs as the ACT tests are getting more and more advanced processor requirements. Once complete I will post the test results for LX compatible compressors. You can do both Jamming and Compressing the files on your LX for max space. Hope this helps If you want Jam configs etc please email me direct. I'll help if I can. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:47:09 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: XTCE Ian Dean writes: > Someone on this list wrote: > > > > AS THE POSSIBILITIES OF SPEEDING UP THE WIN-CE MACHINES ARE LIMITED (they > > > would end up with far too big power drain), I feel that for a long long time > > > to come we will have to rely on our SUPERB 95, 100 or 200LX PC. Even when > > > the prices of the handheld WIN-CE machines go down so dramatically, they are > > > no replacement for people working in DOS. As I have been lurking on this > > > list for a long time, I want to thank all of those, that make it so useful > > > and interesting. > > > So much for a test of "new technology" > > > > I worked with some engineers and software hotshots on > > estimating what it will take to port the workload many of > > us run through the 200LX into a WinCE. They worked in > > pairs, and we had 6 teams doing these evaluations based on > > all sorts of benchmarks, trials etc. The estimates arrived > > at called for a 450MHz to 750MHz cpu in the WinCE to > > process the same workload. > > > > Caverat: The machines would all be amulating a 80186 using > > the XTCE. > > > > In the meeting where their teams presented their findings, > > I heard several computer executives from Asia mumble about > > why the estimates were so low! :) > > > > Anyway, the power requirements are staggering. Also, it was > > pointed out the mahine itself would have to grow so it can > > accomodate enough heat dissipation to chips running so hot. > > > > Yeah, so much for "new technology". The world's population > > would have to lose a significant portion of their > > brainpower to buy that joke! > > Well, Hewlett-Packard must be very impressed with their HP Jornada 820 > then. It manages to run every benchmark and trial that I've tried on > XTCE on it at the same speed or faster than a 20Mhz 80186 (ie. faster > than a double speed HP200LX). In most cases it runs them up to 2x faster > than an IBM AT too (8Mhz 80286). I thought that this message was > bullsh*t when I first read it, now I'm sure. The HP Jornada 820 can run > XTCE for around 10 hours constantly from it's battery and doesn't even > get warm. The other new CE machines like the Sharp Tripad and Mobilon > Pro run at these kind of speeds too. > > Some people like DOS and some people like Windows CE. If you don't like > Windows CE, that's fine, but please don't make up stories about my > software. > I really seriously doubt he was making up stories. Why not get a Tinynote? Same size or smaller. Get a 250 Mhz x86. Won't have to run your programs at 8 mhz. Get to run them at 250 Mhz. Don't have to emulate anything. If battery life is a problem get a second battery. Goin' to have to use a bag anyway to carry it. Personally I think XTCE is a good idea and if the CE things had a decent keyboard I'd try out maybe the 680 and run XTCE on it. But they don't replace the 200LX don't even come close. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:09:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:47:15 -0400 (EDT) 39m36s ago ... On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > The theory here is that recently-made rechargable batteries are mainly = slain > by overcharging at high current and hence overheating, True... > or excessively deep > discharging (particularly for serial battery sets, where any imbalance > between cells and the first cell down gets reverse voltage across it). > So don't deeply discharge the batteries in normal operation, True - but not applicable to the LX. If the first cell goes down completely, so will the LX. Actually, the palmtop will be giving "Main battery low" or "...Very low" warnings well before this happens. If the battery voltage drops further the LX goes into "backup mode", and won't restart until it gets fresh batteries. In five years, I only had the machine go into backup once - with RS NiMH cells. One warning, then into backup. > and don't push 'em up past full with high current. Also good advice! > A trickle doesn't seem to hurt them. Hmmm - actually with Nicads, constant trickle charging can reduce the ability to hold a dharge. This is something different from the alleged "memory effect". There was an article a couple of years ago in PTP that said that constant trickle charge produces growth of large cadmium crystals in nicads, thus reducing capacity. There are a couple of charge control programs available. D&A has an excellent commercial product called ABC/LX, and there's also a freeware controller called Charge-It! (by yours truly) on SUPER. Regards -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:22:46 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Backlit 200LX > > Hmmm - actually with Nicads, constant trickle charging can reduce the > ability to hold a dharge. This is something different from the alleged > "memory effect". There was an article a couple of years ago in PTP > that said that constant trickle charge produces growth of large cadmium > crystals in nicads, thus reducing capacity. That is from any constant current charging source actually. The constant current causes the build up of crystals. Also happens in nickel metal hydrides. Than is why most manufacturers recommend a high frequency pulsed current. That will break up the crystals. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:31:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report In-Reply-To: <199904231216.MAA00730@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software > costs only 25 US$ then! I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80. At $25, I think a lot of "casual" users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design anything useful. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:36:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: new screen In-Reply-To: <000101be8d63$32202a00$d23261cb@masfmt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Malcolm & Karyn wrote: > Does the memory upgrade of 32/64 meg overcome the built in database > record limit of 5000 recs. No. However, with that much space on your C: drive, you could put a new database program on there and convert your data over... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:53:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second that! $25 is a reasonable price Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of David Sargeant > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:32 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report > > > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > We maaybe could collect 40 people, if we make clear that the software > > costs only 25 US$ then! > > I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80. At $25, I think a lot of "casual" > users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the > palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design > anything useful. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:52:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-23 09:31am CDT, the following was written: > I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80. At $25, I think a lot of "casual" > users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the > palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design > anything useful. I can design something useful, although I'm not an engineer, but I can't afford $80. $25 would be much better for me. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:02:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report In-Reply-To: <199904231456.JAA24982x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > I can design something useful, although I'm not an engineer, but I > can't afford $80. $25 would be much better for me. The only problem I can see is that shipping costs will go way up for a bunch of $25 packages as opposed to a few $80 packages. Not only would shipping costs make up a much larger portion of the cost of the package, but there would be a lot of shipping costs as well. Perhaps Thaddeus could order a lot of copies, get a bulk discount, and sell the package themselves at a more consumer-friendly price. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:06:16 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report > I'd pay $25 for a copy, but not $80. At $25, I think a lot of "casual" > users would be interested just to say they can design circuits on the > palmtop, even if they aren't electrical engineers and can't design > anything useful. What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:14:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report In-Reply-To: <199903231006.PNR01636@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks? Beats me. I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between PACI and PSPICE. But I bet sales would go up for a $25 program as opposed to an $80 program. Whether it would be enough to compensate for the increased shipping costs I don't know... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:18:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-23 03:06am CDT, the following was written: > What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks? Actually none, but I have SPICE on the desktop and am not going spend $80 for a cicuit designer just to run on the LX. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:36:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Perhaps. So good to have you working for us. Actually, I just don't think we would sell enough to make it worth while -- it is not universal enough a product. Wish we could help. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:46:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report In-Reply-To: from "David Sargeant" at Apr 23, 99 08:14:37 am Content-Type: text > Beats me. I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between > PACI and PSPICE. I can't speak for PACI yet, as I haven't gotten a copy. But if it works as claimed, it is a *steal* at $80. A real copy of PSPICE (one that allows you to analyze reasonable circuits) usually goes for several thousand dollars. The "evaluation" copies of PSPICE that are available (for free or real cheap) limit you to a small number of nodes. If you try to use any "real-world" components, like op-amps, comparitors, etc, their models usually blow you past this limit in a hurry. So, the jury is still out on PACI, but if it's anything like PSPICE, it is a real bargain at $80. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:50:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Hal Goldstein wrote: > Perhaps. So good to have you working for us. Glad to help out. If I have any more thoughts, I'll be sure to blurt htem to the whole list. > Actually, I just don't think we would sell enough to make it worth > while -- it is not universal enough a product. Wish we could help. All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:54:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: palmax notebook Content-Type: text Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, with the palmax notebook? I'm probably gonna have to get a laptop/notebook computer for work that runs Windows, and this one caught my eye. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:03:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-23 10:50am CDT, the following was written: > All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. I love being a geek..... I wonder what it is like to be "normal"? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.03beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:22:47 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report David Sargeant writes: > On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > What worthwhile circuit design program goes for 25 bucks? > > Beats me. I'm still not sure I even understand the difference between > PACI and PSPICE. But I bet sales would go up for a $25 program as opposed > to an $80 program. Whether it would be enough to compensate for the > increased shipping costs I don't know... I didn't get enough information about PACI to be able to compare but I know Pspice is a very good program. If it is comparable then its well worth the money. The idea of someone making a volume purchase then redistributing is a good idea. If someone was willing to do that I'd be willing to prepay my order. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:47:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All 1 day 18h35m51s ago ... On Wed, 21 Apr 1999, Tomas Moberg wrote: > How many people read the list including digest readers? > Does the administrator know? > > /tomas moberg There are about 900 subscriptions on the HPLX-L. I figure ~150 are duplicate subscriptions, so a conservatice estimate would be ~750 Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 18:49:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > And it would be good if there was a possibility to > let the modem hang up without quitting Post/LX. ... > daniel > There is a program called Dis at dasofts ftp section that You can run as an external that hangs up. Good to use when You have unchecked the "hang up after online" option in postsetup but still likes to hang up. Actualy I kinda like this approach. Its good to add functionality via the external menu. Then You can choose what components You like to have. Like the Digest reader feature in Goin postal. I have that too, and i use post/lx. You have to get LXDR (lx digest reader on SUPER) and run that as a external. When I get a digest in my digest folder then I just press menu x x r and now I can read the digest message by message and export it to a folder if I like to reply to it. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:20:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain So if some paging company was to offer something like... say, a pager that was IR connected to a palmtop, allowing two-way email at the rate of 800, 10 character packets for $25 a month, plus the cost of the pager ($240) and palmtop software ($50)... that company could expect about 750 pieces of hate mail when it becomes known that the service totally _excludes_ DOS based palmtops? Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Kind ÝSMTP:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ > > There are about 900 subscriptions on the HPLX-L. I figure ~150 are > duplicate subscriptions, so a conservatice estimate would be ~750 > > Cheers, > > *Al Kind ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:21:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-23 11:49am CDT, the following was written: > Like the Digest reader feature in Goin postal. I still can't get over how 'neat' the digest feature of Goin' Postal is to use. It really makes digest reading much easier. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:28:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: ... > That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that! > Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know > how to make it able to! Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-) > Often I get emails (for example from the list) which tell me to > look up something or wake my interest in looking up something > on the web, so I have to download the emails _first_ and then > use HV or FTP. So you read all your mail while still online? I do it on the next online run and therefore do ftp etc. just before POST/LX. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:38:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea In-Reply-To: <199904231728.TAA592206@mail.iprolink.ch> from Andreas Garzotto at "Apr 23, 99 07:28:55 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-) Oh, that's just a few simple steps: 1) Get HP to get their heads out of their butts and start building/selling/improving the 200LX 2) Sell POST/LX by the truckload to all the new 200LX owners who have mercifully been rescued from the depths of WinCE 3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic organizational engineers" Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:54:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? In-Reply-To: <199904231720.MAA12476@sdds0.pagenet.com>; from Phil Drummond on Fri, Apr 23, 1999 at 12:20:50PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just to chime in on this thread...there are about 820 folks on the SUPER announce list for new software. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:24:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? In-Reply-To: <199904231720.MAA12476@sdds0.pagenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Phil Drummond wrote: > So if some paging company was to offer something like... say, a pager > that was IR connected to a palmtop, allowing two-way email at the rate > of 800, 10 character packets for $25 a month, plus the cost of the > pager ($240) and palmtop software ($50)... that company could expect > about 750 pieces of hate mail when it becomes known that the service > totally _excludes_ DOS based palmtops? Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for $59.95 a month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops. Bill Childers even got into a fight with a service rep from that company over the issue... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:27:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? In-Reply-To: <19990423135417.A29707@palmtop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote: > Just to chime in on this thread...there are about 820 folks on the > SUPER announce list for new software. I've got about 275 on the news server now. Obviously there's going to be a lot of overlap between news.hplx.net and HPLX-L and the new software announcement list... and also HPHand. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:25:42 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HPLX-L seems to be turning into a chat room. Consequently, I mostly delete before reading. Can't we change the default reply to be sender and not HPLX-L so that people would have to give some thought before broadcasting? With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I could divert classes of msgs to another folder, but I can't find the way to do it. Should I be using another mail package? I don't mind people quoting several lines in their replies, but please, put part of your reply near the top of the msg. because I'm not likely to scroll down to view your words of wisdom. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:30:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea In-Reply-To: <19990423173850.1BC229611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote: > 3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic > organizational engineers" > > Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-) Personally, I'd think Andreas's wife's reaction to step 3 would be the most difficult... BUT YOU NEVER KNOW... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:40:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. In-Reply-To: <3720BB26.534E657F@kdsi.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Stan Peters wrote: > With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I could divert classes of > msgs to another folder, but I can't find the way to do it. Should I be > using another mail package? First create a new "HPLX" folder for list mail. Then, under Edit... Mail Filters, define a new filter so that if the To: contains hplx-l@uconnvm.uconn.edu, the message is moved to the HPLX folder. Then all your list mail should go there. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:44:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-23 01:25pm CDT, the following was written: > Can't we change the default reply to be sender > and not HPLX-L so that people would have to > give some thought before broadcasting? At times, I am guilty of some of the mentioned items, but I consider all of you my friends so sometimes I might get a bit off topic. I apologize for sometimes being off topic. With that said, the digest version may be a better option for you or possibly news.hplx.net which mirrors the list or even reading the list via the web. 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:52:26 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea > > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-) > A wireless modem plugged into the pcmcia slot controlling a little "Robby" robot. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:13:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: CPACK (LLRA) under W95 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: I thought I had the procedure for running LLRA under W95, but I can't find it...can someone refresh my memory? TIA & Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:00:18 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. > With Netscape (unregistered) 4.05, I thought I > could divert classes of msgs to another folder, > but I can't find the way to do it. > Should I be using another mail package? YES! LXTCP, Post/LX or Goin' Postal ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 20:22:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Wow! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290841173__" --__next_part__1290841173__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Avi, Andreas?? > This would be great in POST/LX, too. I think that downloading > a digest of HPLX-L would take much less time than downloading > each single message. > What is a digest? Excuse my ignorance. --__next_part__1290841173__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290841173__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:31:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steven Lawson wrote: ... > 1) Get HP to get their heads out of their butts and start > building/selling/improving the 200LX Hmmm. Seems to be easier to implement a "clean appartment" feature in POST/LX :-) > 3) Use newfound wealth to hire large crew of young bikini-clad "domestic > organizational engineers" Sounds interesting again (hoping my wife does not read this list...) > Of course, step 1 will be the most difficult... :-) Seems we agree! Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:36:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: CPACK (LLRA) under W95 Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Al, Besides copying the LLRA TSRs and batch files to your desktop. You need to edit the TSI.INI file to reflect the correct comm port and drives. Then, for me the trick was creating a shortcut which specifies command.com as the "command line" and LLRA.BAT as the "batch file". The last step is very important. From the program tab, select "advanced" and check the box which says "Prevent MS-DOS programs from detecting Windows". This are the "down and dirty" instructions. More information is available in the "Hacking with Jorgen" section of HPLX.NET. Hope this jogs your memory. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:53:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: CPACK (LLRA) under W95 - Humor... Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" re: >select "advanced" and check the box which says "Prevent MS-DOS programs from detecting >Windows". Now, if we could just check a box that prevents *ME* from detecting Windows, we'd be golden ;-) ÝÝnot ~really~ slamming Windows (no pun intended) here ... just've run into some tough and mysterious Windows malfunctions at work today....¨¨ --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:11:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for $59.95 = a > month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops. Bill Childers even got into = a > fight with a service rep from that company over the issue... Oh, you had to bring that up... I am still steamed at that conversation... "The 200LX is an obsolete toy." -- Sales puke "OH YEAH!?! Why is it I can buy a 200LX with twice as much memory as a Windows CE Machine, huh?" -- Me "You can't... they only came with 1MB of RAM." -- SP "Wanna bet? Tell you what, go to www.palmtoppaper.com or www.palmtop.net or www.hplx.net and see just how obsolete it is. Better yet, ask HP why it's still in production." -- Me "It's not in production, they discontinued it!" -- SP "Tell you what, when you get your facts straight, give me a call. " -- Me Man, I'm mad about that... Bill Childers South Valley Consulting Gilroy, CA -- Who's still searching for the perfect Wireless email solution for the 200LX -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:47:19 -0400 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor Comments: To: Robert Wuttke Addressed to: Robert Wuttke HPLX Mailing List ** Reply to note from Robert Wuttke Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:49:57 +0100 > this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user: > http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/ > Looks very nice. Any idea how much? Patrick West patrickwest@uswest.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:54:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904231845.NAA30565x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jeff: > With that said, the digest version may be a better option for you or possibly news.hplx.net which mirrors >the list or even reading the list via the web. If you get the digest version, you still receive all of the mail....and all of the excessive quoting that occurs. The same is true when using news.hplx.net. There have been times when replies quote replies to other replies, and nothing more. Nothing at all added by the responder! If people just took the time to include just a short portion of the post being replied to, rather than the whole post, and put their replies close to the top of the message rather than the bottom, it would make reading (or skimming) much easier. It might also speed downloading. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:03:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990423164548.009214b0@popmail.mcs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Alan Peres wrote: > If you get the digest version, you still receive all of the > mail....and all of the excessive quoting that occurs. The same is true > when using news.hplx.net. On the other hand, both digest version and news.hplx.net significantly cut down the headers, which speeds things up. But I agree that excessive quoting is a problem we should all work on. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:06:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain What ever you do, if you call the people who manage the server I post from, don't get me involved. --- The following is my opinion only. --- I'm sure you will get a similar response from Pagenet. Don't blame me, I tried to impress upon them the importance of the HP200LX to Pagenet's operation. Even after I demonstrated that I can operate, upgrade (via flash), and track _all_ the equipment in use through out the system here, they still had a blank, no-support look. --- My opinion, only my opinion. --- Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Childers ÝSMTP:childers@GARLIC.COM¨ > > Man, I'm mad about that... > > Bill Childers > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:14:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor Comments: To: patrickwest@uswest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Website says it's not available till mid-1999, and I don't see it sold anywhere (web-wise)...not even an estimated cost on the sites that mention it. - Longden Patrick West on 04/23/99 02:47:19 PM Please respond to patrickwest@uswest.net To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor > this one might be a nice toy for every 200LX user: > http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/micro/ > Looks very nice. Any idea how much? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:33:44 -0700 Reply-To: Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: Re: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It says it needs 500ma :-( From website... Q: What's the power usage of these microdrives? What do I have to consider as I design a new product in terms of power usage of the microdrives? A: IBM 170/340 MB microdrives comply with the latest CF+ specification. For design purposes, the maximum current for the new CF+ devices is generally 500mA; if the microdrive is used, the host system may generally have a power supply capable of supplying 500mA, which complies with CF+ specifications. -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:39:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Yarnell Subject: (fluff)Re: Palmtop Circuit (PACI) report Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:03:13 -0500, Jeff Johns wrote: je> On 04-23 10:50am CDT, the following was written: je> je> > All right, but don't underestimate the geek appeal for 200LX users. = je> je> I love being a geek..... I wonder what it is like to be "normal"? "The trouble with normal is it only gets worse" - Bruce Cockburn Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:55:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: HTTPS on a hp200lx? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I have temporarily solved it by telneting to a Unix account and there > > using LYNX wich handles https. > > > > Lynx neither. Funny, I'm sure I read in the documentation it > doesn't support https. Doesn't work for me. > Yes LYNX does not support https unles You add support for it. Your administrator have to install the https support. Dont remember the site I found the add-on on. But I can look it up. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:24:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , colin cohen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: colin cohen Subject: Lost HP200LX, help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have lost my HP200LX. Its S/N is sg44305026 and it has my name on the r= ear plate and top card thus: colin cohen I left it on UA977 from Frankfurt to Dulles arriving 3/31. If anyone has = any contacts at UA that can help me find it, I would be mighty appreciati= ve. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:29:46 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > But I agree that excessive quoting is a problem we should all work on. We don't ALL need to work on this problem, only the few(?) that repeatedly quote in full need to be educated (or flogged? :-). Idea... Since the Listserv adds that constant info line at the bottom of every post could it also check for that line QUOTED and reject the post if found? I don't think the problem is people not editing quoted material ENOUGH, I think the problem is they don't edit it AT ALL. Maybe if we make them edit out that one line they'll take the time to delete a few more. Comments? cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:35:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. In-Reply-To: <199904232329.XAA91340@out4.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Russel Brooks wrote: > We don't ALL need to work on this problem, only the few(?) that > repeatedly quote in full need to be educated (or flogged? :-). That's how we can all work on it. If we're offenders, we can stop. And if we're not, we can flog the offenders. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:00:03 +800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? MIME-Version: 1.0 On 1999-04-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said: >> Go America offers UNLIMITED wireless messaging of that sort for >>$59.95 a month, and totally excludes DOS palmtops. Bill Childers >>even got into a fight with a service rep from that company over >the issue... >Oh, you had to bring that up... >I am still steamed at that conversation... >"The 200LX is an obsolete toy." -- Sales puke When did this Sales Puke get laid off by Radio Shack and join Go America? Or is Go America a Tandy Company? Perhaps we can find people in the group who have old LX pager interface software for the various carriers and gather it in a centralized location. Even if they don't support it any more, I suppose you could sign up for the service and run the old DOS/EXM software if you can find it. Forgive me Avi, but backward salesdroids call for drastic measures, and "Whirlies" have been outlawed in most States. ..Gary "NO CARRIER" -- Really BAD News for a Naval Aviator -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =BB Practical Peripherals Pocket Modem, because they use AA's. Until I got your email I didn't know there was a 9v LIon. Now I may = keep it!=BB Bill, But the PP used 4 AA batteries and is in an external battery pack. No = lights if I remember correctly? The 9v Lithium from RS is called Ultralife ($6.99). I have been using = this setup for years. A couple of notes. The battery is a very tight = fit, but I always get it in there. You have to be careful no the pinch = the tiny wires. Also I have noticed that after a lot of use as you get = near the end life you might start getting incompleat online runs before = the LB(low battery) light comes on. This is because lithiums tend to run = in a higher operating range (like 9.83v new to 8.8v used up). The LB = light is waiting for a lower used up alk. reading. If you don't have the Shier custom cable ($30-35) get one. It makes the = whole thing very portable. =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: maartens@IAFRICA.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > How big is the thing? Does it have your regular 25 pin parallel > modem port? > > And various lights on it? Andy, It has a 9 pin serial port. 4 lights, LB(low battery), RD(receive), = SD(send), MR(modem ready). It is about 2/3 the size of a 200LX (about 4 = 1/2 X 2 3/8 x 1 inch). Weighs about 5.5 oz. with battery installed. = =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:31:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: How many are we on this list?? In-Reply-To: <199904240200.TAA14588@nfs1-1.bctel.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Gary Jacek wrote: > When did this Sales Puke get laid off by Radio Shack and join Go > America? Or is Go America a Tandy Company? The really sick part is that I got a letter from RadioMail, the last wireless carrier to support the 200LX, saying that their "traditional" service was discontinued in favor of their new "blue kite" service (Windows 95/98 only) as of December 31, 1998. I got this AFTER the deadline. The second page of the letter said that if, "for some reason," I felt the need to not change over to their Windows-only software, I should contact Go America as they would, "through special contract with RadioMail," transition me over smoothly. And instead, what do I get? Fanatical anti-200LX tirades from the supposely "smooth transitioners." Gimme a break. > Even if they don't support it any more, I suppose you could sign up > for the service and run the old DOS/EXM software if you can find it. If you can, that would be good... but I don't think it works out. The old software is still available, but it doesn't work with the new services. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:23:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea Comments: To: Andreas Garzotto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > ... > > That's a good clue, thanks! I'll try that! > > Post/LX seems to be able to do everything, one just have to know > > how to make it able to! > > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-) Well, when Post informs me thru an email that an international guest (or maybe even for a national guest) such as yourself were to be visiting, I would be forced to clean my house. I've entertained Gilles and Erika twice. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:45:27 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Battery Charging (Was: Backlit 200LX) In-Reply-To: <199903230922.PNR04634@bitstream.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Which chargers create a high frequency pulsed current? Does the HP?00LX do this? ===================================== At 09:22 AM 4/23/99 +0200, you wrote: > >That is from any constant current charging source actually. The constant >current causes the build up of crystals. Also happens in nickel metal >hydrides. Than is why most manufacturers recommend a high frequency pulsed >current. That will break up the crystals. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:06:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: HPLX Server! Comments: To: kopplin@primenet.com, David Tobler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A WWW server running on an HP 200lx! WOW! That's amazing! I'd like to see a WinCE, Psion or PalmPilot do THAT! It's not something that I'd want to do with my 200lx, but it's still very cool. See: http://technoir.nu:8080/hplx/ Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 21:08:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HPLX Server! In-Reply-To: <3721435F.ED60DA42@enol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith wrote: > A WWW server running on an HP 200lx! WOW! That's amazing! I'd like > to see a WinCE, Psion or PalmPilot do THAT! Well, technically, I think Windows CE and PalmPilot have http servers. BUT I BET THEIR FEATURE SETS ARE MINIMAL COMPARED TO THE 200LX WEB SERVERS. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:53:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andreas Garzotto wrote: > > * Option to show message size (including attachment) in message list. > > Would you go for a v e r y s l o w message list to get that? POST/LX > would have to read through all of the text to provide that information I thought that your *.i1 index kept track of the offset from the beginning of the file to the beginning of each message. So, if this is true, then a simple subtraction of two consecutive index values would give an indication of the size of the message there. Would this work? Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:53:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: new screen Comments: To: Malcolm & Karyn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Malcolm & Karyn wrote: > I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now > unreadable It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to > the extent that it is unreadable. I did speak with HP in the US about > obtaning another one which they would send me but the cost was rather high Contact Thaddeus Computing at www.thaddeus.com because they repair HP palmtops and also sell used and new and upgraded models. The 5000 record limit in the data base is something that is in the program code and the file structure. There is no way around the limit, except to divide the records between several files. BTW, records with something in the notes field count as two records toward that 5000 record limit. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:34:03 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Turbo C and NKIT A short while ago someone wrote about problems using the Turbo C IDE and NKIT. Sorry I dont have the original post as there has been a lot of mail on this list lately. Anyway... the IDE automatically links in the standard startup files according to the memory model that you pick. So assuming that you are using the small memory model, and in OPTIONS/DIRECTORIES the LIB setting is A:\TC\LIB, IDE automatically links C0S.obj as the first file and links CS.LIB In order not to use the standard startup file you can use a different LIB directory with a different C0S.OBJ file in it, or copy your C0S.OBJ over the standard one. (The first solution is the best). I dont know if you can use multiple Libraries in the LIB entry but this may be able to help you save space and not have to have multiple copies of CS.LIB Give it a try David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ----------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:39:16 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: vi Tutorial Jeff, I am more or less in the same boat as you. I am learning how to set up Linux on mydesktop at home and one of the first things that I need is of course some sort of editor. i.e. vi. I found some very good html pages on Yahoo (www.yahoo.com), specifically written for newbies,downloaded them straight to my Hp200 and read them with HV. While reading them, I am writing a list of commands to a database because I KNOW I will forget them... I have also copied calvin from SUPER in order to practice a bit. So IMHO the internet and the gadget in your police car with the coat hanger hanging out of it :-) are a good place to start. ====================== David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ====================== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:27:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Another POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit F. Kaufman wrote: > > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX cleaning my appartment? :-) > > Well, when Post informs me thru an email that an international guest (or > maybe even for a national guest) such as yourself were to be visiting, I > would be forced to clean my house. I've entertained Gilles and Erika > twice. I did *not* write: > > Can you tell me how to make POST/LX *forcing me to* clean my appartment? :-) That's much easier to implement :-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:27:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > I thought that your *.i1 index kept track of the offset from > the beginning of the file to the beginning of each message. > So, if this is true, then a simple subtraction of two > consecutive index values would give an indication of the size > of the message there. Would this work? Might work, at least for an approximation of the size. Will think about that. BTW, I implemented an "attachment announciator" in the meantime. It needs to read through the complete message while online, which of course slows down the online run, but not significantly. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:36:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terrence Chun Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terrence Chun Subject: X-finder: /Palmtop desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain How do you make blank spaces on the /Palmtop screen? I'd like to have the top row as disks and common directories, the second row as PIM utilities, and subsequent rows as .XFE batch files. How does one set up separate icons for each of the .XFE files? Thanks! -- Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 00:40:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terrence Chun Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terrence Chun Subject: Replacing characters in file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file? I have a bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's. I would like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the beginning of the paragraph rather than running everything together into a single, long, difficult-to-read block of text. On my Amiga I can use the program "Change" to accomplish this, but I a less versed with DOS. Thanks! -- Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 01:23:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Replacing characters in file In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Terrence Chun wrote: > Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file? I have > a bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's. I > would like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that > VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the > beginning of the paragraph rather than running everything together > into a single, long, difficult-to-read block of text. I do this with the VR versions of my stories. But generally I do it right in WP51 when I'm done, by doing a global search and replace on ÝHRt¨ÝHRt¨ and replacing with ÝHRt¨ÝHRt¨Ýspace¨Ýspace¨. (Will VR work with a single space? I didn't know that.) I've found "Global replace" to be easier than finding any specific package to do this. But if anybody has suggestions, I'd be only too glad to find out an easier way of doing it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 03:40:08 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: WTB: Radio Modem Hello Hate to waste the bandwidth but I was wondering if anyone had an old radio modem that works in the 200LX they'd be willing to part with. Thanks John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:12:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Replacing characters in file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Terrence Chun wrote: > Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file? You may want to try the UNIX clone sed command (if you can cope with the syntax) or the search and replace function of a text editor (e.g. PE). Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 06:39:57 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Any replacement cases? I was wondering if there are any replacement cases for the 200LX? Maybe a brushed anodized aluminum or titanium alloy? Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:16:07 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Sprague Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Sprague Subject: Re: FS: Zoom Pocket Modem Comments: To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <19990424025748.EVDQ13396@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Apr 1999 02:57:48 +0000, you wrote: >But the PP used 4 AA batteries and is in an external battery pack. No = lights if I remember correctly? Right >The 9v Lithium from RS is called Ultralife ($6.99). I have been using = this setup for years. A couple of notes. The battery is a very tight = fit, but I always get it in there. You have to be careful no the pinch = the tiny wires. Also I have noticed that after a lot of use as you get = near the end life you might start getting incompleat online runs before = the LB(low battery) light comes on. This is because lithiums tend to run= in a higher operating range (like 9.83v new to 8.8v used up). The LB = light is waiting for a lower used up alk. reading. Got one yesterday - thanks, >If you don't have the Shier custom cable ($30-35) get one. It makes the= whole thing very portable. =3DBob=3D I'll drop Dave aa note. I've got to get him to do another Thumbellina for use with my Draft Choice CADD software. Maybe a two for one ... d8¬) Best, Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:33:35 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Maddern Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Maddern Subject: Running multiple DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS programmes simultaneously? What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet. However, MaxDOS only maximises the available memory of a single DOS session doesn't it? I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess I'll need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive. Dr Peter Maddern Technical Manager North Wales, UK. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:38:42 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: HP Jouradna 680 Has anybody tried gutting a Journada 680 and putting in the 200LX motherboard and keyboard? Its seems like a good way to get a color display. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:42:22 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps > I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the > solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess I'll > need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive. > try dosamatic from the SUPER site. It swaps to memory. It works but you are limited to the 640k since it doesn't use expanded as near as I can tell. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:50:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: X-finder: /Palmtop desktop Comments: To: Terrence Chun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:22:06 -0400 (EDT) 05h38m15s ago ... On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Terrence Chun wrote: > How do you make blank spaces on the /Palmtop screen? Hmmm -- I just tried this kludge, and it seems to work. Use your favorite editor to create an empty file called (whatever).xfn and add it to c:\palmtop (or the .lzh screen definition file if you use it). On the /Palmtop screen, hit comma, and give the file a blank alias. (Hey, I didn't say this was a GOOD solution). BTW - Don't call the dummy file _.xfn That's for long name aliases. > I'd like to have the top row as disks and common directories, the = second row > as PIM utilities, and subsequent rows as .XFE batch files. If you set up the sort order for /Palmtop to reverse date, the oldest .xf? files will be first. You can use this to arrange the order. You can use the Attribute/Date/Time function of XF to set a bogus time/date to move the files. (Hit +) You can also go to any drive by hitting the corresponding number (1 for A -- 3 for C etc.) Commom directories can be set up in the .env file (under Function key definitions for directory...) Hit ÝGoto¨ and the F-key for the directory. You might find that more convenient - or maybe not. 8-) > How does one set up separate icons for each of the .XFE files? Just pick (or create) an icon you like for each .xfe and give it the same name as the .xfe (except for the extension). Then use X-Finder to copy it to your icon.lzh file. Then hit F1 (Init) to reinitialize, and there it is! There's a collection of icons for XF avaialble on SUPER. HTH -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 07:08:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. In-Reply-To: <199904241401.JAA19819@crius.flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 24 Apr 1999, Robert Hocking wrote: > How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date & > person who wrote the message you are responding to? Is this a feature > I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in? I have > looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it. Well, pine puts it in my mail. Post/LX doesn't do it by default, but there's a program on D&A's web site, www.dasoft.com, that puts one in. I forget what it's called. Something like POSTH20.ZIP. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:20:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Replacing characters in file In-Reply-To: <199904241112.NAA70330@mail.iprolink.ch> from "Andreas Garzotto" at Apr 24, 99 01:12:50 pm Content-Type: text > Terrence Chun wrote: > > Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file? > > You may want to try the UNIX clone sed command (if you can cope with > the syntax) The UNIX-clones of the tr command are better suited to plain character substitution. -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 09:31:54 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Journada 680 displays--specs?? Does anyone know who maakes or what the specs are on the above??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:25:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Digi-Key goodies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Hi gang- I know this has come up here before, but Digi-Key is a great source of hardware to use with your palmtops! The latest catalog has the 2mm connectors for the serial port, Panasonic 1500 mAHr NiMH AA batteries, bright white LEDs (2300 mcd), heat shrink tubing and just about anything else you might be looking for for a palmtop project. Just ordered a bunch of goodies... You can request a copy of the catalog from: http://www.digikey.com -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:17:55 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: POST/LX internal DOS-Memory? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi POST/LX users, does anybody know what's the minimum internal DOS mmemory (displayed with Shift F1 in POST/LX) necessary, if I *do not* want to run POST/LX-setup with this setting? (Setup needs 103 KB inside POST/LX to run AFAIK.) The internal DOS memory may be necessary for list reorganisation, archiving etc. I would like to use all available memory with the built in applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering). Thanks in advance. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 13:49:50 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Digi-Key goodies > You can request a copy of the catalog from: > http://www.digikey.com Thanks Peniel I've been trying to remember this companies name. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:45:28 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question As long as the debate on Post/Lx vs Goin' Postal is kept civiland to the point it can be very enlightening. By the way, I personally prefer LXTCP & PNR as they are much more suitable to the way I want to work. For me it is much more useful to have the email client as an exm file,so that I can easily switch between reading email and doing other things. A lot of the time I read email at work while my spare :) (desktop) machine is busy doing something, and then all of a sudden I need Lotus or HPCalc. In order to do this switching with WWW/LX or Goin Postal I would ALSO need Software Carousel. IMHO and for MY NEEDS, this is overkill... David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ----------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 14:05:29 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Buying parts from HP Someone mentioned he couldn't get a replacement keyboard from HP. In case anyone is interested one of the guys at an authorized service center around here told me that if I needed a part all I would have to do is bring in the part number and they would order it, no problem. You might try getting it that way. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:53:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: X-Files made easy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Hello again, group Found another X-Finder accessory program on Vector. This one takes the place of finderp2 for the older version of XF. It includes .xfk (zero byte size) files for all the built-in apps, and a program to create .xfl (also zero bytes) files for the .EXMs you have in AppMgr and MoreEXM. Look for xfp3.lzh It seems that Vector is now sending cookies... -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:34:20 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Replacing characters in file Comments: To: Terrence Chun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the DOS world these pgms are called search and replace, and there are many on Simtel and elsewhere. I wrote and documented the free TexRep (texrep12.zip). It allows mulitple changes on one pass without having to build a table of changes file. In DOS, {cr} is generally encoded as two characters, CR and LF, you may have to look at your file in hex (List allows this). So, at the DOS prompt: texrep \13\10\13\10:\13\10\13\10\32 filename would do the job. Texrep doesn't work in a W95 Dos window. Terrence Chun wrote: > Is there a simple DOS command to replace characters in a file? I have a > bunch of textfiles which have paragraphs separated by two CR's. I would > like to be able to replace {cr}{cr} with {cr}{cr}{space} so that > VerticalReader can distinguish and insert a blank line at the beginning of > the paragraph rather than running everything together into a single, long, > difficult-to-read block of text. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:15:57 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: ReÝ2¨: HD with Compact Flash Form Factor In-Reply-To: <002b01be8dd9$59810580$5dabfea9@pacific> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Le Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:33:44 -0700 Tim Shephard =e9crivait: > It says it needs 500ma :-( Even if they said 100mA, it would be too high. Remember that unlike Flash cards, an hard disk needs to rotate continuously= , then it need this current all that time... And if they add a "sleep mode" (stop running after "x" second without disk access), I bet it would be at least #one# second to get the operational speed. Then, if you are working on an application where you make a disk access all "x+1" seconds, you will have a disk with #one# second of access time. :-( A+ Jacques. ------------------------------ Le dernier administrateur du web "altern"atif se trouvait chez lui.. On frappa =e0 la porte... ------------ Une histoire de Fredric Brown revue par Estelle Hallyday. ---------------------------- La r=e9sistance est sur http://altern.org/defe= nse ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:29:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Weird Question In-Reply-To: <3722267D14A.D180LISTES2@mail.iway.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA (wakeup command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange question ??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 17:27:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Subject: Re: vi Tutorial Comments: To: davidb@netmedia.net.il MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi David, have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and readily available (you've probably got it already) Paul David Becher wrote: > > Jeff, I am more or less in the same boat as you. I am learning how to set > up Linux on mydesktop at home and one of the first things that I need is of > course some sort of editor. i.e. vi. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 16:25:00 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Weird Question Sputnik writes: > Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking > project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA (wakeup > command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit > would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange > question ??? Sure can. Activity at the serial port will wake it up from a deep sleep. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 23:16:22 +0100 Reply-To: Mike@ampersoft.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Little Organization: Ampersoft Subject: Re: Screen light. Source in UK? Comments: cc: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK In-Reply-To: <199904231217.MAA00742@linux.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 23 Apr 99, at 12:17, Daniel Hertrich wrote: >Hi, > >> In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on >> the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the >> body of the torch when not in use. >> >> Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK? I got one very similar in the Gadget(?) Shop in the new Trafford Centre in Manchester. I believe the Gadget Shop have branches elsewhere in England. The cost was 4GBP (four pounds). I think this is the same as the one mentioned by Daniel (below). They are NOT the same as the ones sold by Thaddeus. They don't clip on to the edge of the screen as well. I generally tend to just stand it at the side of the HP on the few occasions I have used it. >i >Sorry, not in UK, but in Germany: Conrad Electronic sells them, too. >Maybe you find it with a look at www.conrad.de. >They cost a few DM (3 DM, if I recall right). > >But I find this light not very useful, because of the arm that's >not solid enough and the need of external battery. > >I've made my own solution for lightning the LX's screen, which uses >the palmtop-internal batteries, is lighter than the "flexlite" >and more solid: look at >www.palmtop.net/ledlight.html > >There I described how to make it. > >GTX >daniel > Mike --- Mike Little work: Web: http://www.ampersoft.co.uk PGP public key at http://www.ampersoft.co.uk/mike/mike.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:35:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Becher wrote: > all of a sudden I need Lotus or HPCalc. In order to do this switching with > WWW/LX or Goin Postal I would ALSO need Software Carousel. IMHO and for MY > NEEDS, this is overkill... I regularly read/reply to e-mail in Sysmanager using POST/LX - like now with HP Calc open - yup I just had a look and then came back here to MEMO. But, to go online I hit Fn+F1 and launch WWW and POST/LX. BTW of course Fn+F1 brings up your fantastic 200MNU!! :) Regards, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:20:26 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zimm4@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Zimmerman Subject: ÝFLUFF¨More...In search of 200lx replacement I bumped into the following page during a search for floppy-based Linux systems. http://www.calcaria.net I think it fits some of the discussion regarding the Psion, the future demise of the HP200lx, and Minix. The people behind this webpage are porting Linux to the ARM chip used in the Psion 5 and the Geofox. I don't know much about the stuff but they have some screenshots that inspire reflection. Larry Zimmerman ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:10:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps Comments: To: Peter Maddern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS > programmes simultaneously? Yes > What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet. > However, MaxDOS only maximises the available memory of a single DOS > session doesn't it? Yes > I only have less than 200Kb left on the 200LX internal drive so if the > solution involves using part of the disk for task swapping, I guess = I'll > need to have a clear out of stuff from my drive. Yes Sounds like it's time for an 8 or 32 meg C: drive upgrade. Software = Carousel works best (fast switching times Ý1 second¨ if you can run it = all from the C: drive. Contct Thomas Rundel in Germany. =3DBob=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:41:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps In-Reply-To: <19990425011043.DXML18855@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Bob Newins wrote: > > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS > > programmes simultaneously? > > Yes Well, there are other programs, like DOS Shell, that will also task swap. Software Carousel currently seems to be the best for palmtop use, though. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 20:50:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-24 08:10pm CDT, the following was written: > > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS > > programmes simultaneously? No, you could use DOSshell 73 Jeff <--- tired for day one of Talladega *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:08:57 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Direct assult on the HP -dos- LX camp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, HP etc knows we'er still here. In fact here is a direct assult I received in my e-mail! webmaster@mobileplanet.com in its April 1999 issue wrote : > -- Trade-Up To The New HP Jornadas > AN EXCLUSIVE OFFER FROM HP AND MOBILEPLANET: > TRADE-UP TO THE NEW HP JORNADAS! > > For a limited time, MobilePlanet and HP is offering an opportunity to qualified owners of HP DOS Palmtop computers, to trade-up to the dynamic new Windows CE HP Jornada line of PC Companions. > > Provide your DOS palmtop serial number and get one of the > special Jornada Offers available from MobilePlanet > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ > This offer is for a limited time -- April 1, 1999 to October 31, > 1999. Limit one HP Jornada product per HP DOS Palmtop. Valid > only in the USA. More Information can be found at > http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:14:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Palmtop Circut & TINA for DOS #2 of 2 (long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin #2 of 2 of forwarded message --- >>> Continued from part 1...AJKind <<< In AC analysis complex voltage, current, impedance and power can be calculated as well as Nyquist diagrams and the Bode diagrams of the amplitude, phase and group delay characteristics the can be plotted. In case of non-linear networks the operating point linearization is done automatically. The noise analysis determines the noise spectrum with respect to either the input or the output. The noise power and the signal-to- noise ratio (SNR) can also be calculated. The symbolic anaiysis produces the transfer function and the closed form expression of a response in linear networks in DC, AC and tran- sient modes alike. The exact solution calculated through symbolic analysis can also be plotted and compared to the numerically calcu- lated or measured results. The built-in interpreter can evaluate and plot arbitrary functions. Through the symbolic analysis poles and zeros of linear circuits can also be calculated or plotted. Tolerances can also be assigned to the circuit elements to be used in Monte-Carlo and/or worst-case analyses. Results can be obtained statistically as well, their expected means, standard deviations and yields can also be calculated. Electric responses (voltage,current,power) plot-able as functions of arbitrary circuit parameters including the ambient temperature. Unknown circuit parameters can be determined automatically so that the network can produce a predefined target value (optimization). Beside the electronic circuit design the optimization is an ideal teaching aid to construct examples and problems. Educational applications are facilitated through special display options as voltage, ampere, impedance, admittance and power meters. TiNA's special educational function is the software or hardware simulation of circuit faults to practise troubteshooting. TINA has two special operation modes serving for exercising and examination, respectively. In these modes, under TINA's control, the students have to solve problems assorted by the teacher. The solutions depend on the types of problems: they can either be selected from a list or have to be calculated numerically or given in symbolic form. If the student can not solve the problem he / she can turn to the multilevel advisor. The package includes all the tools needed to produce educational material. A collection of examples and problems worked out by practising teachers is also part of the package. The minimum hardware configuration is: - IBM PC XT/AT/PS2 or compatible with 640 kB of RAM and hard drive - VGA/EGA/CGA/Hercules adapter card and monitor Mouse and math co-processor (FPU) are recommended add-on AT or 386 compatibles with more than 1MB RAM are recommended. Suplementary hardware: - TINALab Data acquisition card with multimeter, oscilloscope and signal generator functions realized on a standard ISA bus card. - ExtBox experimenter box to assemble prototype circuits and measure and diagnose demonstrating circuits through 16 channels. These circuits are connected to the Experimenter box through an open interface. According to this concept the educational institutions can develop their own demonstrating circuits and measurement schemes to be connected to the system. (Without ExtBox, the TINALab card will have only one I/O channel) - FaultGen expansion card (to the experimenter box) to insert faults into the the tested electronic circuits. - Demonstration circuits to illustrate operation of basic electronic circuits. Demonstration circuits can automaticalty recongnized and displayed after connecting them to the experimenter box. Developer: DesignSoft, Csengery u. 53, H-1067, Budapest, Hungary * END * --- end of part 2 forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 00:14:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Palmtop Circut & TINA for DOS: #1 of 2(long) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin part 1 of forwarded message --- From- "Tamas Feher" Date- Sat, 24 Apr 1999 15:04:20 +02.00 MET-DST Subject- Palmtop Circuit and Tina for DOS, making things clear (long). Hello all! Now, I hope these instructions will clear up any confusion about electric circuit analysis programs Palmtop Circuit and Tina_for_DOS; probably caused by list digest automaton mixing up my previous postings. Please DO follow this order: To get full picture, FIRST read the Palmtop Circuit report at: Title: Palmtop Circuit success. Will be 1st mail in the digest. THEN read my brief description of Tina for DOS v2.6, at: Title: What TINA for DOS ver2 is? Will be 13th mail in digest. FINALLY, go on reading this mail, below is the text of an old advertisement broschure of Tina for DOS v2.5 (scanned + OCR) Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ********************** TINA for DOS version 2.5 - Toolkit for Interactive Network Analysis TINA is a powerful computer-based learning, training and design software that enables simulation, analysis, virtual or real time measurements as well as troubleshooting of linear and nonlinear analog electronic circuits. TINA can serve as affordable trainer of students at educational institutes or as a professional tool for circuit analyis at academia or industry. Its outstanding demonstrating functions, which include symbolic analysis as well as comparison of theore- tical and measured results provide excellent effectiveness in education and individual study of electronics. The circuit diagrams are designed by an easy to use schematic editor. Element symbols chosen from a menu or component catalog can be positioned, moved, rotated and/or mirrored on the screen by the mouse or keyboard control keys. An extensive semiconductor catalog is provided which allows the user to select the required semiconductor components from a user extendable library. TINA also provides a built-in text processor to add text to the circuit diagrams or to the calculation and measurement results. It is an invaluable aid to teachers preparing problems and illust- rations, editing example collections. The circuit diagrams and the calculated or Measured results can be printed out or saved into files in several standard formats (DXF, PCX, HPGL, PostScript). These output flies can be processed by a number of well known software packages (AutoCAD, Ventura Publisher, Wordperfect, Microsoft Word, Paintbrush, Corel Draw etc.). Circuit diagrams can be also exported to OrCAD for PCB design. The DC analysis calculates DC operating point and the transfer characteristic. The user can display the calculated and/or measured nodal voltages at any node by selecting it with the cursor. In transient analysis mode the input wave-form can be selected from several options (pulse, unit step, sinusoid, triangular wave, square wawe and general trapezoidal waweform) parametrized as required. In addition to the calculation and display of responses, coefficients of the Fourler series and harmonic distortion for periodic signals as well as the Fourier spectrum of non-periodic signals can also be calculated. >>> Continued in Part 2 ...AJkind <<< --- end of part 1 forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 01:26:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In my opinion, Software Carousel is the best task switcher for use on the palmtop if you want automatic use of system manager and the built-in apps in addition to multiple DOS programs, but only if you do not need a cut & paste capability. If you don't need system manager, other options include: - MS DOSShell. - WordPerfect Shell (also with some other WordPerfect Corp products; i.e, DrawPerfect, WordPerfect Office, perhaps DataPerfect). (May have cut & paste) - Switch-It (has cut & paste). - Back and Forth. - DOSamatic. - Caldera DOS 7.0x has a task-switcher. There are many others. I prefer SC and am using it now on the palmtop for the reason stated above. But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the palmtop. ===================================== At 02:33 PM 4/24/99 +0100, Dr Peter Maddern wrote: >Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS >programmes simultaneously? > >What other options are there? I've got MaxDOS but haven't run it yet. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 22:46:31 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: new screen Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > > Malcolm & Karyn wrote: > > > I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now > > unreadable It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to > > the extent that it is unreadable. I did speak with HP in the US about > > obtaning another one which they would send me but the cost was rather high > > Contact Thaddeus Computing at www.thaddeus.com because they > repair HP palmtops and also sell used and new and upgraded > models. > > The 5000 record limit in the data base is something that is in > the program code and the file structure. There is no way > around the limit, except to divide the records between several > files. > > BTW, records with something in the notes field count as two > records toward that 5000 record limit. > > Stan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Stan!! I too had screen problems. I sent my unit to THADDEUS COMPUTING they replace my screen for under $200.00. HP is a little costly. Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:21:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: PE/PIM beta Q uploaded MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony, > Fred K wrote: > > > To=3DHPLX Mailing List > > Box=3DMail > > Looks fine to me. I don't know, maybe press ENTER after the EDU> and > then delete the new blank line. Maybe a sort of hard CR might help? Thank you again! This message was picked up also with robot. So To works also. Regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 04:44:21 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Rom Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 05:06:48 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Rom John Musielewicz writes: > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? Hmm, I answered my own question by looking in the manual. Yes you can. A person can run it on any one machine, make backup copies, and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one machine its perfectly legal. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 06:56:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , cwbrad@IBM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "C.W. Bradley" Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990425012657.00a30d20@mailhub.exis.net> In <3.0.6.32.19990425012657.00a30d20@mailhub.exis.net>, on 04/25/99 at 01:26 AM, "Don E. Weatherly" said: > But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect >Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the >palmtop. Don, I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx for lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting and pasting utility that came with SC? Does it not work on the 200lx or does it just not come with the current version? Both of my copies are v. 6.something. Snip and Snap worked great and could be run in with multiple configurations for formatting text. Charles ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@ibm.net FAX (931)840-0679 Created using OS/2 WARP and MR2/ICE #20166 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:32:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Replacing characters in file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>is there a way to replace CR/LF characters in a file? Try the XLATE program, available on the SUPER site. I've tried several su= ch global search and replace commands and XLATE is the fastest. = .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:56:39 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: new screen Comments: To: masfmt@CLEAR.NET.NZ In-Reply-To: <000101be8d63$32202a00$d23261cb@masfmt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" On 4/23/99, at 8:26 PM, Malcolm & Karyn wrote, in part: >I have had problems with the screen on my 200lx to the extent that it is now >unreadable. > >It has lots of lines accross it both verticle and horizontal to the extent >that it is unreadable. > >I did speak with HP in the US about obtaning another one which they would >send me but the cost was rather high. > > ÝSNIP¨ > >The question i have is does some one know where i can get a cheap screen >from or does some one have a broke LX with a good screen that i could >purchase from them to get me going as i have rather major withdrawl >symptions. You and I need to get together and convince somebody to sell us their old LX... I have a good screen and need a motherboard, you have a good motherboard and need a screen... and neither of *us* want to give up our half-LXs! Seriously, if you or someone nearby is good with hardware, you might want to check something before you ship it off OR buy a screen. The LCD screen just sits against its connector; there is a compressible pad behind the connector that has sticky gunk on it to hold it in place. What I've found is that, in some machines, the gunk can migrate in between the connector and the LCD, resulting in a deteriorating display. You *may* be able to confirm a connection problem; try squeezing or pressing on the left side of the bezel, just left of the display. If your lines go away or even change in any way, the odds are good that's where the problem is. In my case, the problem surfaced when my 200LX fell out of my pocket during a desperate airport shuttle dash. Apparently it jarred the LCD and connector apart for an instant, and that was all it took for the gunk to get sucked in there and cause problems. I carefully took my machine apart and cleaned off the gunk (Goof-Off or something like that would probably be best; I used fingernail polish remover (acetone?) because that was all I had available at the time). When I put it back together the display worked fine, and has been okay since (a couple of months now). It's a bit delicate in there, but if you're considering swapping the LCD module anyway, it's probably worth pulling it apart and checking first. Just clean the contacts gently but well, then put it back together and see if you've helped the situation. Good luck, Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:57:02 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Rom Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't that pretty much what EMU-48 (the emulator for the HP48) does? AFAIK the EMU people are quite faithful to the idea that you dump _your own_ copy of the 48Rom that then loads into EMU running under Win95 or NT, giving you---in effect---a 48 on your Windows machine. John Musielewicz wrote: > > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? > > John > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: POST/LX internal DOS-Memory? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hermann Kellinghaus wrote: > I would like to use all available memory with the built in > applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering) One tip that I give to people running WWW/LX Plus under System Manager is to make not run Post from an icon in AppMgr. This is because then you use the icon to launch a program, the AppMgr application remains in RAM taking up a few 17K of RAM. You should also look into the program to close Filer and free up 58K of RAM. It would be best to use something like Ctrl-Lotus to shell to a DOS box and then just run the POST.EXE program directly from the command line. Now just use the Setup app (Ctrl-Filer) Advanced otions to adjust the size of the DOS box to be only as big as you need to run just the POST.EXE program. Don't load WWW.EXE first and don't run Post's SETUP program from inside Post. THis would be the smallest RAM hit you would have to just run the Post program for reading and writing replies to messages. Going online would be another matter. You can use an icon in AppMgr for that because it would not be a big deal to have to close down you SysMgr apps (and it's probably a good idea) in order to go online with WWW.EXE and POST.EXE (and maybe NEWS2.EXE). Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andreas Garzotto wrote: > Might work, at least for an approximation of the size. Will think about that. > > BTW, I implemented an "attachment announciator" in the meantime. It > needs to read through the complete message while online, which of > course slows down the online run, but not significantly I would think that even an approximate size would be more useful thn nothing. But for the attachement indicator, the Post program will have to analyze the message while online? How about checking for attachments while doing the indexing. This will also be important because it will notice when an attachment was stripped off and when Ctrl-R is used. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Sargeant wrote: > > How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date & > > person who wrote the message you are responding to? Is this a feature > > I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in? I have > > looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it I have a macro in PE that goes into the original message, finds the From: and then copy/pastes it into the beginning of my new message. Works great. See above. I think it is good because it helps the author of the original message notice that there is a reply to him or her. I don't see the need for the time information. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Turbocpu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > I understand the wait states etc and agree that no CPU speed increase > happens. It "appears" to increase the speed. Although the snake oil is > very apparent after real world testing ... > With turbocpu time was 38.4 secs without was 35.6 averages ... > Same test on a DS8M was 19.4 secs. > The only disadvantage I have found when using this tsr is that the comm port > wont connect unless I run normcpu or remove the prog. > Curiously I found another glitch using Turbo.. Stopwatch ran SLOWER when > turbo installed. 30Secs RT measured 22.1 on the turboed machine RIGHT! Exactly my point. TurboCPU messes around with wait states and other stuff like that to free up a few CPU cycles here and there while sacrificing some of the hardware functionality. And this is also why official benchmarks get confused because they assume the basic timebase is correct and it is not while TurboCPU is running. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:05:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Running multiple DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Maddern wrote: > Is installing Software Carousel the only way to run several DOS > programmes simultaneously? The palmtop cannot run multiple programs SIMULTANEOUSLY. It can only run one program at a time. SC allows multiple programs to be loaded at the same time and task switching between them. This puts the other programs to sleep while the single program in the foreground runs. The sleeping program get no server from the CPU whatsoever. MaxDOS is a task switcher like SC, but MaxDOS handles only one session while SC can have many. Yes, you will need some more free space on your C: drive to make either of these task switching programs work effectively. SC can put it's swap space on the A: drive, but it is much slower than C:. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:33:10 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: POST/LX internal DOS-Memory? Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM In-Reply-To: <199904251405.KAA18221@dub-img-ims-5.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Stanley Dobrowski answered: > > > I would like to use all available memory with the built in > > applications for mail editing (cut/paste and info gathering) > > One tip that I give to people running WWW/LX Plus under System > Manager is to make not run Post from an icon in AppMgr. > I start it with an icon in AppMgr, but .. (see below) > This is because then you use the icon to launch a program, the > AppMgr application remains in RAM taking up a few 17K of RAM. > after Post/LX has started, I go back to AppMgr and close it with ESC and the 17K RAM are free again (check it; actually I use a macro for both steps.) > You should also look into the program to close Filer and free > up 58K of RAM. > Of course. > It would be best to use something like Ctrl-Lotus to shell to > a DOS box and then just run the POST.EXE program directly > from the command line. .... > Not necessary (as I think, see above). Currently I'm running POST/LX with 80KB internal DOS memory, so that I can use two EXM's aditionally (Memo and another one f.ex.). Is there anybody having experience with less than 80KB? Thanks for dealing with this subject. Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:56:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Fw: Rom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:03:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting and pasting utility that came with SC? My understanding is that this feature was sacrificed since it conflicted with some of the features in the LX's Sys Mgr. The workaround is to use the clipvue program which lets you clip and save to disk in one session a= nd import the clipboard file in another session. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:09:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Rom Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard > upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and > modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one > machine its perfectly legal. Unfortunately you couldn't modify it either as that would involve reverse engineering the ROM. Any new motherboard will have to contain new software or at least an OS so that a person can load their own software into it. Moving the ROM code from the 200LX into a new motherboard will never happen so I really don't want folks thinking that it is even a possibility. Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:16:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: PE/PIM beta Q uploaded MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Guenther Helmuth E. wrote: > Thank you again! This message was picked up also with robot. So To > works also. Seems so, however it would be better to not "reply" to messages from the beta group to the list ;-) Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:03:48 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > But for the attachement indicator, the Post program will have > to analyze the message while online? How about checking for > attachments while doing the indexing. It then would have to write the information back to the file, which then would have been re-indexed again... Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:19:46 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Direct assult on the HP -dos- LX camp MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit After going to this site mentioned by Patrick West (http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/) I noticed that while the 2 Meg 200lx is for sale, there is no mention of the 4 Meg unit. Has it been discontinued? Or is it just not for sale directly from HP? I also noticed that none of the 200lx accessories were listed. Looks like we are a little further down the slippery slope. bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:11:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: vi Tutorial >Hi David, > >have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and >readily available (you've probably got it already) > >Paul Wow. That suggestion brought back memories. I remember, as a non-college student, finding my way from the free U of H online library system in Honolulu through the UHCARL system to the Cleveland Freenet, back when the internet was generally accessed via a Unix shell account. (In Hawaii, at that time, we had no other affordable way to access the internet.) From there, we could go almost anywhere we wanted to go by telneting to the Buffalo Freenet and going from there. Well anyway, the Cleveland Freenet offered the "Joe" editor as an alternate editor for those who established a free account. I tried installing it and my account never worked after that. I wasn't able to change the editor back to another, even with the aid of the help desk, so I eventually ended up opening a new account and starting over. I never did get a chance to try out the "Joe" editor. It always sounded like a nice editor though. Is there a DOS version of the Joe editor now? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:32:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Serial port activity activated wakeup / a minor question >> Im thinking of using my 200LX for sorta a weird portable networking >> project. Question is can the 200LX be turned on by serial or IRDA (wakeup >> command) or does it need to be turned on by the ON button ?? the unit >> would be closed at all times when in use.. so thats why the strange >> question ??? > >Sure can. Activity at the serial port will wake it up from a deep sleep. Ah.. I asked a similar question a while back and didn't get a reply. Yes, sure enough... I just turned off the HP200LX node on my network, made that drive the local drive on my desktop, and then did a directory listing. It sprang to life and gave the directory listing just fine. :-) BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite irritating. If you have noticed this in the past, how have you trained your HP200LX to behave itself? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:42:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: vi Tutorial In-Reply-To: <19990425.143307.3478.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, John J Vanderstel wrote: > It always sounded like a nice editor though. Is there a DOS version of > the Joe editor now? Well, Joe is a clone of WordStar, so if you've used that or have a copy, you'll know what Joe is like. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:42:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 08h33m57s ago ... On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, C.W. Bradley wrote: > "Don E. Weatherly" said: > > > But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfe= ct > >Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on = the > >palmtop. > > Don, > I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx = for > lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap = cuting > and pasting utility that came with SC?... I tried SnipNSnap a while back on my 200LX. As I recall iw worked, but not too well. From what I remember: 1) You must load the COMMAND.COM from a "full version" of MSDOS 5.0 2) It chewed up alot of conventional memory (50-60k?) I determined at the time that it wasn't very practical in my situation. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:01:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps Comments: To: cwbrad@ibm.net In-Reply-To: <199904251051.GAA15750@smtp.usit.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Charles, I tried using (on the palmtop) the Snip and Snap (S&S) cut & paste program from non-palmtop SC 6.0 with the palmtop version of SC. S&S worked great on the desktop but I couldn't get S&S to work well with the palmtop version. Like Al Kind just suggested, I loaded a full DOS 5.0 command.com before loading S&S. Right now the cut & paste feature is more important to me than the system manager apps, so I'll try the non-palmtop SC version. (I prefer to run apps that can be used on both the palmtop and desktop so I can avoid the data file conversion trouble.) Hal Goldstein from Thaddeus provided some comments related to this issue during the past few weeks. I've added extracts of his comments below your note. Don ========================================= At 06:56 AM 4/25/99 -0400, Charles Bradley wrote: > "Don E. Weatherly" said: >> But I'm considering switching to the non-palmtop SC version, WordPerfect >>Shell, or Switch-it for the cut & paste features if they will run on the >>palmtop. > >Don, >I used SC for years on various PCs, but am not using it on the 200lx for >lack of C: drive swapspace. Whatever happened to the Snip and Snap cuting >and pasting utility that came with SC? Does it not work on the 200lx or >does it just not come with the current version? Both of my copies are v. >6.something. Snip and Snap worked great and could be run in with multiple >configurations for formatting text. Charles ============================================ Hal Goldstein on Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:42:16: "For those that don't know the history of Software Carousel and our (Thaddeus Computing) involvement, here goes. About two years ago, the authors of SC went out of business and no one could buy the product. Especially with our memory upgrades, I thought SC was a great product." "I did a search on the web for the SC authors and contacted him and her. To make a long story short, the authors made some bug fixes, and we purchased the rights to distribute the product, but they don't support it. Thanks to HPHAND and this group there is excellent support available from experienced users. I appreciate everyone's support on the product, as it allows us to sell it and feel that our customers are supported." ===== Hal Goldstein on Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:23:16: "The authors of the Software Carousel program (formerly Sunshine) still have code and made changes for version 7. We have the rights to sell it for a couple of years. To make changes I would have to go back to the authors, and their fee is VERY expensive." ===== Hal Goldstein on Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:32:19: "The best (workable but clumsy) solution is CLIPVUE found on SUPER - www.palmtop.net." "I have talked to the authors about cut and paste. Unfortunately, this would be a VERY expensive update. I think Avi may know more of the details, but the PC version does support cut and paste. However, the authors apparently had to remove this feature to gain other Palmtop functionality when they ported the application to the palmtop." ===== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:10:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990425150131.00a4d4a0@mailhub.exis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Don E. Weatherly wrote: > Right now the cut & paste feature is more important to me than the > system manager apps, so I'll try the non-palmtop SC version. (I > prefer to run apps that can be used on both the palmtop and desktop so > I can avoid the data file conversion trouble.) I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful. DOS applications aren't like Windows apps, where there's a universal way of selecting things for copy and paste. As far as I can reason, any DOS cut-and-paste TSR would be limited to selecting whatever is displayed on the screen. I don't know if that's how it works, but personally if I was going to copy and paste between work areas I'd want to be able to select more than just what's on the screen at the time-- say, a full block of text, or something. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:15:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fw: Rom In-Reply-To: <004701be8f34$3f98c340$0400a8c0@times2tech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Mack Baggette wrote: > > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? > > Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any > other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls. What about an emulator? Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:40:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terrence Chun Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terrence Chun Subject: X-finder: using Memo as the editor? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Okay, I'm stumped. How do you use Memo as the default editor? I've set up my finder.env to show: #Editor setting %e ,0 ,$m {xB800}{f9} which starts Memo just fine, and opens the Open requester, but when I try to have it send %p%c as the file to open, it only inserts 12 characters (I know that $m is limited to a 15 character buffer). Also, when it opens the Open requester, it inserts a space into the filename line. I can't figure out where this comes from. I have tried to have the finder.env do: $c %p%c;{xB800}{f9}{paste}{enter} which works fine unless I try to use "F7-Custom" from X-finder, because it starts whatever file my cursor was on. Help! Thanks. -- Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:05:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Turbocpu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit So, the reduction in wait states is not a real speed-up? Or is it a speed-up but insignificant and not worth the "snake oil" taste? (and this reply is really a test of using and REPLYING to hplist from the newsgroup on Dave's server. And I failed the first time since the list rejected the email address I used to generate this reply - now let's see!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:11:25 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: ok - I will quit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but: My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using Outlook98. This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this. Is this true? Hermann ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:16:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: ok - I will quit In-Reply-To: <000101be8f57$d7eb4780$1f93b8d4@00001759844208095504#0001> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Hermann Kellinghaus wrote: > I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but: > > My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using > Outlook98. > > This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I > believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this. > > Is this true? Not as far as I know. What bothers many people (including me) is messages posted in HTML. Your message wasn't HTML, so it doesn't annoy me. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:43:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steve D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steve D." Subject: Re: ok - I will quit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I too use Outlook97, with Word as my editor, whenever I post to this list from my work PC. If that is a problem, someone let me know and I won't post from work (unless it's an "emergency"). (This message was written from home using Outlook Express.) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Hermann Kellinghaus To: Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: ok - I will quit > I'm using my HP200LX for a lot of things - but: > > My messages to this list are currently generated on my PC using > Outlook98. > > This seems to be a 'no no' for several list members - meanwhile I > believe they just don't read/answer bacause of this. > > Is this true? > > Hermann > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:47:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:10 PM 4/25/99 -0700, David Sargeant wrote: >I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful. They are if you don't want to (or are unable to easily/quickly) go the file conversion route. They are much better than re-keying the same info into a second app. >DOS applications aren't like Windows apps, where there's a universal way of >selecting things for copy and paste. As far as I can reason, any DOS >cut-and-paste TSR would be limited to selecting whatever is displayed on >the screen. The cut & paste DOS utilities I've used permitted you to copy (somtimes cut) an entire screenful of text that you had blocked. Granted, it is not as effective as Windoze in this area (no flames, please, just stating the facts) since Windoze will permit you to cut/copy & paste multiple screens of blocked information in one operation for Windoze apps. But being able to copy & paste up to one full screen of text at one time is better than the inability to do it at all, which seems to be the situation we have now with the HP200LX if you are using DOS .EXE/.COM apps. >I don't know if that's how it works, but personally if I was >going to copy and paste between work areas I'd want to be able to select >more than just what's on the screen at the time-- say, a full block of >text, or something. Sounds like you are pushing Windoze . Seriously, being able to copy text blocks larger than one screen is what I'd like to do, too, but I've not yet tried to run Windoze & apps (versions less than Win v 3.1) on my palmtop. Since I'm sticking with my palmtop and DOS apps for the time being, I'd like to at least have the same cut & paste capabilities as I have on my desktops or laptops when running DOS apps. Non-palmtop DOS versions of Software Carousel, Switch-It, and (I think) WordPerfect Shell have the cut & paste capability built-in. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:07:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Raffaele Gaioni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Raffaele Gaioni Subject: New Jap progs Content-Type: text Hi dear palmtoppers, surfin' on the jap-side of the hplx world I've found this page: http://www2.osk.threewebnet.or.jp/~fjw/hp200lx.html where u can find some nice piece of software. Bye, Raf ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:13:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: TBLX :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Quinton Which program on Super converts exe, com and bat files to exm files? Thanks Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:23:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Fw: Rom In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Apr 25, 99 09:15:51 pm Content-Type: text > > > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > > > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > > > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > > > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? > > > > Unfortunately I think the issue is mute since you can't run the ROM on any > > other machine due to the register differences in the CPU controls. I think the intent of the question intially was to swap his ROM from a busted machine on a new motherboard. The reason, as I understood it, was to maintain a particular country version of the ROM that he liked (apparently the new motherboard was of different country than desired). -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:26:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , tschweikert1@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Schweikert Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 19 Apr 1999 to 20 Apr 1999 - Special issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable kropla.com for comms standards ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:03:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Diaz-Vazquez Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Diaz-Vazquez Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sometimes I use a program called DOSCLIP from Simtel. In the days when I used to go SimTel daily and test all the different DOS programs, I found DOSCLIP to be the most stable program of all. But I also found they *all* eventually froze the computer, depending on the TSR's loaded at the time. I did not notice so much freezing perhaps because I would use it only as long as I sat in front of the desktop, but with the never ending use of a sesion caused by the instant-on feature of the palmtop, I have noticed the freezing a lot more frecuently, thereby causing me to use it less. If anybody wants to write a new palmtop application, it should be a dosclip-type application that works with DOS and Sysmgr programs, does not freeze the palmtop, and uses as little memory as DOSCLIP for DOS from Simtel, IMHO. Any takers? Domingo -----Original Message----- From: Don E. Weatherly To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Sunday, April 25, 1999 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps >At 12:10 PM 4/25/99 -0700, David Sargeant wrote: >>I just wonder if any of the cut and paste apps are really useful. > >They are if you don't want to (or are unable to easily/quickly) go the file >conversion route. They are much better than re-keying the same info into a >second app. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:01:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: POST/LX internal DOS-Memory? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de (Hermann Kellinghaus) wrote: > I start it with an icon in AppMgr, but ... > after Post/LX has started, I go back to AppMgr and close it with ESC > and the 17K RAM are free again (check it; actually I use a macro for > both steps.) Good thinking. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:01:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Serial port activity activated wakeup / a minor question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John J Vanderstel wrote: > BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon > backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes > automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the > apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog > box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu > and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I > don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite > irritating Oddly enough, that is a feature of the 200LX. This is the daily greeting that comes up the first time you turn the palmtop on or run SysMgr after midnight each day. If you had appointment and ToDos in your ADB file, then they would be summarized in the dialog box for you. But since you don't use the Appt book, there is nothing there. You can run off this feature by running the Appt application and then use Menu Options and remove the checkmark next to Daily Greeting. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:01:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Turbocpu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "F. Kaufman" wrote: > So, the reduction in wait states is not a real speed-up? Or is it a > speed-up but insignificant Yes to both questions. > not worth the "snake oil" taste? That is the bottom line. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:06:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: New Jap progs Comments: To: Raffaele Gaioni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the information, but perhaps you should know that `jap' is a distinct prejorative in English, and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. I recommend not using it... Raffaele Gaioni wrote: > > Hi dear palmtoppers, > surfin' on the jap-side of the hplx world I've found this page: > > http://www2.osk.threewebnet.or.jp/~fjw/hp200lx.html > > where u can find some nice piece of software. > > Bye, Raf > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:11:51 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Running multiple DOS apps Comments: To: "Don E. Weatherly" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The cut & paste DOS utilities I've used permitted you to copy (somtimes > cut) an entire screenful of text that you had blocked. Granted, it is not > as effective as Windoze in this area (no flames, please, just stating the > facts) since Windoze will permit you to cut/copy & paste multiple screens > of blocked information in one operation for Windoze apps. But being able > to copy & paste up to one full screen of text at one time is better than > the inability to do it at all, which seems to be the situation we have now > with the HP200LX if you are using DOS .EXE/.COM apps. Buerg's List allows you to mark a top and bottom line of info (not of just the visible screen) and then save the marked block to a text file. So, for ascii data, at least, you can cut/paste larger portions of files. Then using Clipvu, you could move the data into the clipboard. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:15:15 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fischer Gyorgy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fischer Gyorgy Subject: PACI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List, I have been on the list for a while, but this is the first time I can be of help. PACI has been tested on my HP 200LX. Those of you interested, can download a few screenshots from the following URL: www.ski-boy.com/hplx/ About the price. I am sure, the producers are not willing to give discounts, no matter how many of you want to buy the software. ( According to my calculations, shipping alone will cost $10-20.) Furthermore, I think it is very unlikely that the producers would sell the software to Thaddeus at a reasonable price. So, those of you willing to get it, think in terms of the original price and feel free to ask further questions. (I have nothing to do with this company.) BR, Georg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:43:38 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Raffaele Gaioni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Raffaele Gaioni Subject: EXCUSE ME Content-Type: text Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my POOR english... :( Excuse me Raffaele ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:50:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Zel Eaton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Zel Eaton Subject: Transfile Win 200 problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I installed TransfileWin 200 on my computer. I have used it on a previous computer with no problem but, when I installed it and ran it my D:\ drive disappeared!!! I have my hard drive (6gig size) divided into C:\ and D:\ drives. Has anyone had this happen and if so is there a fix. I really like to use transfile to communicate with my HP200 palmtop but I don't enjoy reformatting the D:\ drive and putting back all the data lost. Please e mail me if you have the answer or a suggestion as to what may have gone wrong. I had no problem transfering files back and forth to the c:\ dirve and I did notice that the Transfile program didn't indicate it was reading a D:\ dirve on my desktop which is an HP. Also, I am running Windows 95. Thank you in advance. Zel Eaton Zel Eaton, Editor The Missouri Freemason P. O. Box 44 Kirksville, Missouri 63501-0044 Phone 660.665.8776 Fax 660.665.1832 zel@mail.com -- Me, I speak ONLY for myself -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:08:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? Hi all, I currently use the free Juno email software on my desktop and notebook computer to handle all of my list based email, and it works great. Well, I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the free Juno software on my HP200LX. The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the Juno software are as follows: * PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher * Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0 * 9600 baud modem * 8 MB RAM * Mouse * SVGA monitor That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing of email is all but impossible. When their machine's low power had become a problem, I just wrote a little batch file for them so that after they pull down their email, they could exit Juno, run my batch file that removes the ads and then re-start Juno. With that minor work around, they are still able to exchange email with little inconvenience. Since they can still easily use Juno software on a machine that is far below the stated minimum requirements, I'm starting to wonder what the minimum requirements really are. Could the current Juno software actually work with a EGA monitor? If not, could there be an older version of Juno out there that worked with a EGA monitor? If so, upon running that software and connecting, it would exchange email and then no doubt automatically upgrade itself to the newest version requiring a VGA monitor and log off. In that case, I could then simply run a batch file to make it revert to the old version after every connection and re-launch the Juno software to read and write email. I wonder if it would be possible to operate the Juno software without a mouse... Has anyone actually tried installing and using the Juno software on a HP200LX running Windows 3.0? If not, I'm wondering if it would be worth my time to install Windows 3.0 on my HP200LX and investigate such a possibility while I'm waiting on an extra serial cable to finish my current slide-in docking station project. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:54:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: built in 6x8 font MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290067732__" --__next_part__1290067732__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12. Unfortunately the zoom does not allow for the hidden 6x8 font. I wrote a 30 bytes program called 6x8.COM to enable this font. It is a pitty, that this font still uses 8 pixel width in text modes, so that we cannot have 106 characters in one line, what would be appropriate for a 6x8 font. (640 pixel / 6 =3D 106 chars). However if this font is used in graphics modes with special write string functions, the 106 characters are available! But DOS in graphics mode does not use these functions :( But PAL programs or other special written software could use this font. I know, I should not attach the 6x8.COM to this email. But today I make an exception. After you used the zoom key, you must run 6x8.COM again, if you want to access this font. 6x8 does not permanently set up this font. It is no TSR, just a very simple activation. Stefan --__next_part__1290067732__ Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="6x8.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 uAAAjsC4AwAmop8EzRC01M0QuAHRuwEAzRC0TM0h --__next_part__1290067732__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:36:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290817744__" --__next_part__1290817744__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some weeks ago, I posted an article saying that I missed the e-mail = functionality that I had on my Psion Series 5. Avi (I think) posted a = question, asking me what functionality POST/LX lacked. I never replied to = this, but lots of other people did! Well now it's my turn. Having used POST/LX for a few, I think that there = is nothing the Psion's client could do that D&A's can't. For such a small = program, it is brimming with useful features, most that the Psion was = sadly lacking. My problems were with connectivity: using the modem in my = Win95 PC and collecting mail from the mail server on my P, both via = serial connection. I've since resolved both these problems. However, I've got some other questions/problems with POST/LX, and I'm = sure that there's lots of functionality in there that's hidden, i.e. only = available by editing the .CFG files. I have a couple of requests for D&A. 1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently = Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on = this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving.= You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and = over. 2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to = include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to = go beyond the immediately obvious functionality? I'd like to see this = guide focused on tasks solving rather than specific functions, e.g. how = and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list. Just a couple of ideas. If I can't make sense of my current problems with = /LX by myself, I'll post them later. --__next_part__1290817744__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290817744__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:07:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: A little question >Oddly enough, that is a feature of the 200LX. This is the >daily greeting that comes up the first time you turn the >palmtop on or run SysMgr after midnight each day. If you had >appointment and ToDos in your ADB file, then they would be >summarized in the dialog box for you. But since you don't use >the Appt book, there is nothing there. > >You can run off this feature by running the Appt application >and then use Menu Options and remove the checkmark next to >Daily Greeting. Thanks for the tip, Stan. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:03:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: built in 6x8 font Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three > but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12. Once again, thanks for your efforts. Isn't this the font used to display function key labels. I know I have seen a font that appeared smaller than other. I recall dealing with some "tiny" font issue when Jeff mattox was working on buddy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:09:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: WWW/LX Problems & Questions Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit They have a tips and tricks section on their web site: www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:41:38 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out www.palmtop.com It uses the built-in CCmail. John J Vanderstel writes: > Hi all, > > I currently use the free Juno email software on my desktop and notebook > computer to handle all of my list based email, and it works great. Well, > I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the free > Juno software on my HP200LX. > > The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the > Juno software are as follows: > > * PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher > * Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0 > * 9600 baud modem > * 8 MB RAM > * Mouse > * SVGA monitor > > That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or > does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on > a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only > problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that > animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing > of email is all but impossible. > > When their machine's low power had become a problem, I just wrote a > little batch file for them so that after they pull down their email, they > could exit Juno, run my batch file that removes the ads and then re-start > Juno. With that minor work around, they are still able to exchange email > with little inconvenience. > > Since they can still easily use Juno software on a machine that is far > below the stated minimum requirements, I'm starting to wonder what the > minimum requirements really are. Could the current Juno software actually > work with a EGA monitor? > > If not, could there be an older version of Juno out there that worked > with a EGA monitor? If so, upon running that software and connecting, it > would exchange email and then no doubt automatically upgrade itself to > the newest version requiring a VGA monitor and log off. In that case, I > could then simply run a batch file to make it revert to the old version > after every connection and re-launch the Juno software to read and write > email. > > I wonder if it would be possible to operate the Juno software without a > mouse... > > Has anyone actually tried installing and using the Juno software on a > HP200LX running Windows 3.0? If not, I'm wondering if it would be worth > my time to install Windows 3.0 on my HP200LX and investigate such a > possibility while I'm waiting on an extra serial cable to finish my > current slide-in docking station project. > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:29:48 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: WWW/LX Problems & Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: > 1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently > Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on > this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving. > You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and > over. Somebody would have to do the work to collect those questions, formulate the answers and packing them into a Web page. This would be a serious bit of work. If the questions come over and over, they of course make it into the FAQ. > 2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to > include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to > go beyond the immediately obvious functionality? There is a Tips and Tricks page. But again, it is lot of work to extend that page and somebody has to do it. If you volunteer... Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:29:14 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Raffaele Gaioni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Raffaele Gaioni Subject: Fine Japanese sites Content-Type: text Hi dear palmtoppers, surfin' on the japabnese-side of the hplx world I've found this pages: http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002322/lx.html (author of the 123 GUI and other interesting piece of software) http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002322/lx.html (log.express and me.exm) http://plaza10.mbn.or.jp/~uekiya/hp200lx/english/ (INTERESTING: programming hp200lx) http://www.ayati.com/LX/HP200LX.HTM (internet apps) http://www.st.rim.or.jp/~kmatsuda/lnk/HP200LX/ (wwwnext?) http://www.isc.meiji.ac.jp/~kubota/dmail/index.html (dmail) http://infofarm.cc.affrc.go.jp/~goddila/200lx/mobile.htm (Mobile Computing for HP200LX) http://member.nifty.ne.jp/kikuyan/200lx.htm (icons & othrs) http://www.sandi.co.jp/products/irib/mobia/dos.htm (internet) http://www.ryo.net/ (various intersting things) http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~mirin/mirin_filer.html (mirin filer: have a look!!) http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~lsd/dmail.html (dmail hp setup) http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA004814/freesoft/gpt32lx-readme.html (gnuplot 3.2 setup for the hp) http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA004814/freesoft/ (dai chan free soft page) Hope you'll like Bye, Raf ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:40:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Clinton lost "nuke ball" : 200LX war-games. Hello all! I bet some of you heard on the news, that on the NATO summit Billy boy felt sleepy and decided to go back to the White House to nap. One single problem, he failed to tell some of his staff - including the officer, who carries the "nuke ball", a big briefcase containg gear to initiate thermonuclear strike on presidental order. The officer, left alone, finally decided to go back to White House. He had to WALK some 440yards, alone & completely unguarded, dragging the bulky case. The confusion lasted about 30 minutes. I bet poor soldier could use fresh Pampers meanwhile... During this time the USA was unable to start a preemptive strike and was at a 45-120 seconds penalty to respond to suprise all out attack from evil Chinese/Soviets. However, as US regulations go, whenever 3 missile silo commanders congregate; they can shoot back, even if it's only an unconfiremed alert and noone can stop them. The time penalty comes from the period for arbitration: single commander tries to fire, gets vetoed, two try to fire, get vetoed by three or more, three try to fire, OK...kaboom. But this delay isn't dangerous, according to what analysts say. I con that. Obviously, they need something smaller than a breifcase. Maybe a chance for the 200LX? Jeff could participate with shortwave and Stefan writes scrambler. Any volunteers for GUI (politicians have low IQ, they need something simple)? And someone invent a loss- protection method for the 200LX, plus all-weather MIL-STD casing. Pretty good marketing for HP, if done 8-) ÝOk, it was al ong joke¨ Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:53:38 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Renaming files with corrupted titles Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming on the LX and if I screw up my code it can create a file with a corrupted title which I need to rename to work with. This is how I do it. First I drop into dos, either a dos box in System Manager or usually a Software Carousel dos session. Next, I'll go to page C-2 in the 200LX Users manual which has Character Code page 437 which is the default for dos. Third I type in ren, hold down alt+menu and type in the number for each character, releasing alt+menu after each number. When there is a space in the name I type in ?. Then type in the name I want to rename it to. After pressing enter it should change the name to something readable. This works pretty well getting rid of those nasty corrupted titles. HTH some one. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:06:55 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Clinton lost "nuke ball" : 200LX war-games. > Obviously, they need something smaller than a breifcase. Maybe a > chance for the 200LX? Jeff could participate with shortwave and > Stefan writes scrambler. Any volunteers for GUI (politicians have > low IQ, they need something simple)? And someone invent a loss- > protection method for the 200LX, plus all-weather MIL-STD casing. > Pretty good marketing for HP, if done 8-) ÝOk, it was al ong joke¨ > They would need too much gear to prevent someone from jamming the signal. It would still take a briefcase to carry it. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:20:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: Rom Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> and modify it to suit their purposes. So when there's a motherboard >> upgrade the rommed software can be copied to the new board and >> modified to work there. As long as a person just runs it on one >> machine its perfectly legal. > >Unfortunately you couldn't modify it either as that would involve reverse >engineering the ROM. > >Any new motherboard will have to contain new software or at least an OS so >that a person can load their own software into it. Moving the ROM code from >the 200LX into a new motherboard will never happen so I really don't want >folks thinking that it is even a possibility. > Never say never, Mack. I can be done. I just moved a VGA bios rom to a non-Intel platform for a customer. Admittedly, there are more bits of hardware to emulate on the 200 than on a VGA, but the principle is the same. The question is, why would someone put out the effort to do this? rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:16:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The only problem I see (other than the advertisements using up HPLX-L bandwidth) is going to be the Windows requirement. Try executing the EXE file associated with Juno from a DOS session. If you get a message like "this program requires Windows" or the program starts Windows for you, then it won't work on a palmtop. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > Well, I've been wondering lately if I could figure out a way to run the > free Juno software on my HP200LX. > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? In-Reply-To: <199904261316.IAA20762@sdds0.pagenet.com> from "Phil Drummond" at Apr 26, 99 08:16:48 am Content-Type: text > file associated with Juno from a DOS session. If you get a message like > "this program requires Windows" or the program starts Windows for you, then > it won't work on a palmtop. But... he already says that he friend is running it under a Win 3.0 desktop platform. So I see the real issues are real or protected mode, and display compatibility. -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:35:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm not sure I get it... Windows 3.0 will operate as a non-protected mode application and supports CGA, so if Juno would run under those constraints, regardless of the constraints he is currently using, a valid test would still be to determine if the executable requires some form of the Microsoft Windows environment. My test would have resulted in a yes-no result without regard to the need for protected mode or video support. I don't believe he intended to use Windows 3.0 on his palmtop... I might have misunderstood. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: R. Christopher Lott ÝSMTP:rclott@RO.COM¨ > > But... he already says that he friend is running it under a Win 3.0 > desktop platform. So I see the real issues are real or protected mode, > and display compatibility. > > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:00:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: built in 6x8 font Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:51:04 -0400 (EDT) 09h47m56s ago ... On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, F. Kaufman wrote: > > It seems to be a secret, that the palmtop has not only three > > but four built in fonts: 6x8, 8x8, 10x11 and 16x12. > > Isn't this the font used to display function key labels? Hmmm - don't think so. The F-key labels look like 8x8. Thanks to Stefan for reminding me of this font. It's mentioned in the FCL docs, but I don't think anyone ever did anything with modifying the tiny font... Those of you using HP-Pygmy Forth (all 2 or 3 of you) can use this font in graphics mode if you define the following word. : TINYFONT $0608 font ; Use this just like SMALLFONT MIDFONT etc... It really is TINY! -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: new screen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> At this point we continue to charge $125 for all repairs -- we've never charged more. However, we are quite short on screens. 4 months ago we ordered some new screens from HP. Because of the cost of screens to us, when they finally get in, we will charge $175 to those customers where we use the new screens. (Now we use screens from broken units). We will inform customers before we make the charge -- if we can, giving them the option of new or used screen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:28:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Serial Port Power Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it turns the serial port power on? 73 Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Fwd: LX & RS WX200 Weather Station MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- > From- Sal J Russo Ýmailto:saljrusso@lucent.com¨ > Sent- Friday, April 23, 1999 12:42 PM > > > > > I recently purchased a Radio Shack WX200 weather station. > I has an RS232 port that I would like to hook up to my > hp200lx palmtop. It sends hex data corresponding to the > various weather readings it tracks. Do you have any thoughts > on an exsisting DOS program that I could modify to interpret > the data coming across the line. Another option would be > to write a program from scratch. I'd like to be able to > read the data and write it to a plain text file. I've attached > the data protocol if that helps. I would like to use the 200lx > for other weather applications if you know of any. > > Thanks for your help! > > Sal Russo > saljrusso@lucent.com > --- end of forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:48:46 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: new screen Hal Goldstein writes: > < they replace > my screen for under $200.00. HP is a little costly.>> > > At this point we continue to charge $125 for all repairs -- we've never > charged more. However, we are quite short on screens. 4 months ago we Hal, what do you do with unrepairable motherboards? Are you able to exchange those with HP? I am looking for a motherboard--doesn't matter whether it works. Do you have a junk one there that I could buy? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:50:34 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Jeff Johns writes: > Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it > turns the serial port power on? The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep sleep are turned off too. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:26:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-26 02:50am CDT, the following was written: > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Not true, at least as far as I know. You can disable it in 'Setup'. The problem I am noticing is that when I leave one program and start another, the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs that turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be on in DOS. Weird, huh? Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:13:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Posting w/ Outlook (was ok - I will quit) Dunno where in Outlook this is buried; but, even though I'm set up to send mail in Rich Text Format, when replying to this list (or anyone who's message is plain text) my message defaults to plain text(!). Using Outlook 98 at work and you can see the "Message (Plain Text)" clearly in the composing window's title bar. Whoda-thunk, MS got one right for a change ;-) <> --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:50:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Dowell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Dowell Subject: Re: (FLUFF) Posting w/ Outlook (was ok - I will quit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Speaking of Format C:... I checked out a pretty good book at the library this weekend called "Format C:". It's a good read, and has that necessary "geek factor". It doesn't have a 200LX in it, but it does have a palmtop called the "Windy" that plays an important role in the book. The authors last name is Black, and I found the book on the 'New' rack. Check it out! (pardon the pun) Steve -----Original Message----- From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO ÝSMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL¨ Sent: Monday, April 26, 1999 10:13 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Posting w/ Outlook (was ok - I will quit) <> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:08:59 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Jeff Johns writes: > On 04-26 02:50am CDT, the following was written: > > > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. > > Not true, at least as far as I know. You can disable it in 'Setup'. The > problem I am noticing is that when I leave one program and start another, > the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs that > turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be on > in DOS. Weird, huh? That's the port power in dos under battery power. According to the sdk port power and sleep is turned on and off respectively when the adapter is plugged in. On my "good" lx, the one that came from HP repair, I have nothing wierd happen to port power. It turns on and off just like the sdk says it should with any program running under system manager. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:24:45 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: <199903260950.PNR03486@bitstream.net>; from John Musielewicz on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 09:50:34AM +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-26-07:50:34 John Musielewicz: > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep > sleep are turned off too. I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and lock it again when I'm done. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:36:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-26 10:24am CDT, the following was written: > I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with > Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it > and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and > lock it again when I'm done. I use LX Pro to turn it on and off and I can start ABC/LX with the port turned off then run LXPro and the port will be on, from here turn it back off and it turns right back on :) It's not really a big deal when it's plugged into the adapter, but I don't like having to remeber to turn the power off when using batteries. ABC/LX is not the only software that seems to do this. I also experience the same scenario when I run PNRTI and PNR. In fact, I'm using Goin' Postal to write this and just popped up my LXPro box and the port has turned itself back on...... this is really strange behavior. I don't know what I have changed, but it has only started happening within the past week or so. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:36:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Comments: To: Jeff Johns >the serial port is somehow switched on. ABC/LX is one of these programs that >turns the port on. My box in setup is not checked to allow the port to be on >in DOS. Weird, huh? Jeff, Have you tried Buddy? I think "Fn - -" ÝFunction-Minusx2 (tap minus twice)¨ locks the COM port off - haven't tried it Ýnor can I find my copy of ABC/LX to experiment¨. Sounds like something is reinitializing your modem or checking for the COM port, when you change programs, are you using the built-in modem recognition program or LLRAS in your startup? HTH, --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:38:54 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Bennett Todd writes: > 1999-04-26-07:50:34 John Musielewicz: > > The serial port is always on when the AC is connected. Automatic light and deep > > sleep are turned off too. > > I agree about the sleeps, but I leave my serial port normally locked with > Buddy, and the A/C doesn't turn it on; I still have to explicitly unlock it > and turn it on (i.e. hit "+" twice in filer), and can turn it back off and > lock it again when I'm done. Buddy must keep the port locked off pretty well. Anyway thats what the sdk says and thats how my HP repaired 200LX works. Try not using Buddy then checking your port with ppal or setit or something like that. Buddies writer may have decided to lock off the port no matter what. It can be shut off when the adapter is connected. Does it automatically come on when you start a program like filer or datacomm? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:42:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: Posting w/ Outlook Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using Outlook Express, in the Address Book, you can set up an alias and specify that it should always receive plain text. Look under the Name tab when displaying an alias' properties. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:42:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andreas Garzotto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Serial Port Power MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff Johns wrote: > Can anyone else that's using ABC/LX tell me if they have noticed that it > turns the serial port power on? It does not have the ability to turn on the serial port power, so it must be something else that turns on serial port power. In the system manager setup utility, there is a setting "Serial Port On In DOS". If you have that checked, the serial port is turned on when you start a DOS program. Maybe it is that? Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:45:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: X-finder: using Memo as the editor? Comments: To: Terrence Chun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 12:40:29 -0700, Terrence Chun wrote: > Okay, I'm stumped. > > How do you use Memo as the default editor? I've been working on the same thing Terry, without success. (:-) If you are anybody else finds a fix, please post it. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:55:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Serial Port Power Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-26 11:36am CDT, the following was written: > Have you tried Buddy? I think "Fn - -" Hooray! Apparently, I somehow screwed up my Buddy settings and didn't even think about that being the problem. Thanks to everyone for reminding me about this setting! Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:15:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Serial Port Power MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Is XL Pro the only software you are using to check port status? If so, consider that it (LX Pro) might be the culprit. Use another method to check port status and see if the problem is still there. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨ > > I use LX Pro to turn it on and off and I can start ABC/LX with the port > turned off then run LXPro and the port will be on, from here turn it back > off and it turns right back on :) > > Jeff > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:38:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: using fax machine as a scanner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I remember having seen ads for devices that allowed to use standalone fax as a scanner for PC. This was before scanners became commonplace. Can this be done with HP200lx (other than simply faxing stuff in)? Has anyone done this? Mikhail ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:49:42 +0000 Reply-To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" Subject: Waterloo TCP/IP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi everyone, I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol). Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ?? Has anyone bought the reference manuals ?? Are they useful ?? Please, i need your help. ____________________________________________ Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion - UPM Ciudad Universitaria s/n 28040 Madrid, Spain Tel +34 91 5495700 Ext 332 Fax +34 91 3366828 e-mail: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es ____________________________________________ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:06:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katd@CWIX.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Re: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. Comments: To: Stanley Dobrowski MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > David Sargeant wrote: > > > > How does one get the top line, like this message, to read the date = & > > > person who wrote the message you are responding to? Is this a = feature > > > I have been missing in POST/LX, or does one just type it in? I = have > > > looked in the manual, but might have overlooked it > > I have a macro in PE that goes into the original message, > finds the From: and then copy/pastes it into the beginning of > my new message. Works great. See above. I think it is good > because it helps the author of the original message notice > that there is a reply to him or her. I don't see the need > for the time information. Stan, Could you share your macro with us? How do you access a specific line in the original message? Kat -- K.Deutscher - katd@cwix.com - TheOpr@aol.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:06:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Another program idea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I saw this app announced on a Pilot newsgroup and figured that we could use something like this, too. http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/ What is does is download your local movie listings using a perl script and then the app itself is a viewer for the datafile generated by the script. The HPLX could do the same with a PAL program or EXM as the viewer. I'd use it! -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:20:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Waterloo TCP/IP Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es In-Reply-To: <199904261741.TAA11917@toro.gbt.tfo.upm.es> from "Francisco I. Campoy Blasco" at "Apr 26, 99 07:49:42 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi everyone, > > I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX > palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol). > > Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ?? Yes, my Goin' Postal mailer for the LX uses the WATTCP library. Also, Rod Whitby keeps a repository of LX-related WATTCP stuff on his web page; http://rwhitby.hplx.net/ For the PPP side, use Toni Lopez's DOSPPP packet drivers (specifically, the EPPPD.EXE driver which emulates BOOTP) > Has anyone bought the reference manuals ?? > > Are they useful ?? Yes, I bought the reference manual and it's handy. It's not really impressive, being just a Xeroxed set of pages without even a cover. It's really Erick Englekes way of getting a little money for his hard work, which he really does deserve. The WATTCP stack is pretty much the only thing around for developing DOS TCP apps these days, so unless you're living on the street or writing a freeware app, please buy the manual and give Erick a little support. It's really quite a tiny amount of money to pay for what was a whole lot of work on his part. There was talk on the list about being able to get the API to WWW/LX, which sounds like a nice way to go. I don't know if you can yet or not, though I'm sure Avi will respond to this with the answer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:28:36 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Waterloo TCP/IP Comments: To: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es LXTCP uses the WatCP. The source code is availible. You can get it from the SUPER site www.palmtop.net Francisco I. Campoy Blasco writes: > Hi everyone, > > I'm going to develope an application on TCP/IP using the HP200LX > palmtop. Perhaps, i need to use PPP (point to point protocol). > > Has anyone used the WatTCP libraries ?? > Has anyone bought the reference manuals ?? > > Are they useful ?? > > Please, i need your help. > > ____________________________________________ > > Francisco Ignacio Campoy Blasco > Grupo de Bioingenieria y Telemedicina > E.T.S.I. Telecomunicacion - UPM > Ciudad Universitaria s/n > 28040 Madrid, Spain > > Tel +34 91 5495700 Ext 332 > Fax +34 91 3366828 > e-mail: fcampoy@gbt.tfo.upm.es > ____________________________________________ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:27:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Another program idea Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-26 01:06pm CDT, the following was written: > I'd use it! Ditto! Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:02:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: new screen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From: John Musielewicz <> We don't exchange anything we HP. Twice we have been able to order parts from them and we are working with them so we can buy them when we need them. If you privately email me with your address, I'll send you a junked motherboard. I ask everyone out there, please don't bombard me with requests for parts. When we can make them available, we will. If you positively, absolutely, have to have a part and you will shrivel up and die without it, you can email privately and I'll see if I can help you out. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:49 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Serial port activity activated wakeup / a minor question Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi John you can switch off this greeting screen somewhere in the 'options' menu of the appointment book. GTX daniel > BTW, has anyone else noticed that upon turning on their HP200LX or upon > backing out of a MaxDOS controlled DOS program, it sometimes > automatically jumps to a screen where there is a dialog box over the > apptbook day view waiting for an "OK"? After hitting enter, the dialog > box disappears leaving me at the apptbook day view where I must hit menu > and Q to get back to the "&...More" application launch screen again. I > don't even use the apptbook on my HP200LX, so it's just a mite > irritating. ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:42 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Screen light. Source in UK? Comments: To: Mike@ampersoft.co.uk MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, These one mentioned by _me_ (daniel) are _exactly_ the same as these ones sold by Thaddeus (Mitch sold them before Thaddeus, and I sent him a few pictures of this light I found. He said, it was the same.) It can be clipped at the screen. GTX daniel > >> In the Thaddeus catalog(ue), they advertise a small torch which clips on > >> the side of the HP screen. It has a goose-neck arm which wraps around the > >> body of the torch when not in use. > >> > >> Q. Does anybody know of a source for this torch in the UK? > > I got one very similar in the Gadget(?) Shop in the new Trafford Centre in > Manchester. I believe the Gadget Shop have branches elsewhere in England. > The cost was 4GBP (four pounds). > I think this is the same as the one mentioned by Daniel (below). > > They are NOT the same as the ones sold by Thaddeus. They don't clip on to the edge of > the screen as well. I generally tend to just stand it at the side of the HP on the > few occasions I have used it. ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:46 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fluff: Re: Rom Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, no, it's not legal to discontinue using the 200LX! ;-) GTX daniel > Does anyone know if the rom licensing is like a regular software > license? If a person bought a 200LX and copied the rommed software > to a differant machine then stopped using the 200LX and just used > the rom software on the new machine, would that be legal? > > John > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:22:53 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PACI Comments: To: Fischer Gyorgy MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Georg, Thank you very much for your posting!!! That's exactly this what we all were waiting for. I'll now have a look to the screenshots. > help. PACI has been tested on my HP 200LX. Those of you interested, can > download a few screenshots from the following URL: > www.ski-boy.com/hplx/ Maybe now we'll see that it's worth its 80 US$. If not, we'll see... GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:23:18 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Software Carousel question 2nd try MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi list, some time ago i posted a message to you and didn't get a reply. I try it once more and add one question: --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:37:09 +0100 From: Daniel Hertrich To: HPLX Mailing List ,David Sargeant Subject: Software Carousel question Hi list Is there a possibility to "lock" the hotkeys of SC while the flash card (where my SC swap file is stored) is removed or replaced by the PCMCIA modem and unlock them after reinserting it (for preventing lockups or "disk not ready" errors)? And if there's a possibility for the hotkeys, is there also one for locking the blue app-keys which switch to WA1 (SysMgr)? --- end of forwarded message --- I thought about maybe a TSR with a not so easy accessable hotkey (for example shift-alt-esc or somthing like this) that disables WA-swapping. And regarding this I have a one more question: When does the system hang up and when do I get only the disk not ready error (when switching to another WA if the CF-card isn't inserted)? I couldn't see any rule for that - somtimes I must hard-reset the palmtop after that, somtimes I only have to reinsert the card and press "r" for retry, then it works again. GTX+TNX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:42:56 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP > >Or simpler yet, just use the desktop computer. > > If the ultimate purpose was not to enable more effective remote use of > a HP200LX or if the resulting data didn't ultimately need to be moved to > the HP200LX, then yes. As long as one is near a stand alone desktop > computer, it would be much easier to simply use the stand alone desktop > and cut the HP200LX out of the loop, all together. > > However, if the ultimate purpose was to edit or input a sizable amount > of text into a document or file that was already stored and used on the > HP200LX, then a simple slide-in network connection to your nearby desktop > would offer the most efficient input method without resorting to sneaker > net (or the CF shuffle). > > I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop > keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while > I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather > busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the road. > > Cheers, > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, MIchigan Lets see, put a network card in the hp and use my desktop keyboard while bent over squinting at the hp screen or just pop a flash card into my desktop and use my 17 inch monitor, I think I will go with the latter. For anyone looking for a pretty good deal on a desktop dual slot pcmcia adaptor there was a guy with several for sale on ebay. I got one for $46 and it works quite well. It is an older SCM swapbox model, isa adaptor with a dual ribbon cable connected to a 3.5" sized pair of slots. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:52:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: XF Stuff... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Hi group- Here's a variation of the kludge (...or technique - sounds better) for making blank spaces in the XF desktop screens. Use your editor to create an empty file (zero size) called, maybe, 01.xxx You can use any extension you're not likely to use for anything else. Create a blank icon called xxx.icn In the .env file section for execution by matching extension add the line .xxx , , to tell XF to do nothing if you hit ÝEnter¨ on the dummy file. Use the bogus date/time setting and reverse date sort to arrange the icons, and use as many blank files as you need. Call them 01.xxx 02.xxx 03.xxx etc. Use the Extra Name function of XF to give each dummy file a single space for its name. This works beter than using *.xfn for the name. Sorry, I don't have any idea about Terry's question about using Memo for the XF editor. Seems like I tried the same things without success. I use VDE for my editor. Also check out the new stuff on SUPER - several XF accessory progs. -Peniel ------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:09:11 GMT Reply-To: neil@skipper.demon.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME In-Reply-To: <199904252243.AAA17486@pinkerton.cs.unibo.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 00:43:38 +0200, Raffaele Gaioni wrote: >Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... >I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English >and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. >I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my >POOR english... :( I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no problem with your original post. --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:22:03 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME > >Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... > >I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English > >and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. > >I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my > >POOR english... :( > > I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a > pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a > contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if > used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no > problem with your original post. > > -- > Neil Tungate > Team 200LX UK Wouldn't you really have to be japanese to have a valid opnion one way or the other? nothing personal but maybe a japanese person could express their opinion on the matter. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:27:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-26 04:09pm CDT, the following was written: > I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a > pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a > contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if > used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no > problem with your original post. Well... I as an American didn't have a problem with it. In fact, I didn't even think about it until I saw the apology :) Life is too short to stress over things like this, coming from a part of the country that is forever scarred with past racial inequitites, most of us here in the South get along pretty well and have learned to ignore minor things such such as the term jap, especially since no ill-will was meant by it. I vote that we all just go get a beer and carry on with our discussions of our little machines :) Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:13:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: WWW/LX Problems & Questions Comments: To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris, > 1) As well as the FAQ, why don't you publish an IAQ file (Infrequently > Asked Questions!)? Collect together the more obscure Q&A's that appear on > this list, so that new users can read these for ideas and problem solving. > You then won't have to keep answering the same old questions over and > over. This is a good idea. In addition, there are many questions that we get in Tech Support which are also infrequently asked. It only needs one tiny ingredient: Time :) ... I have been working on some ideas vis-a-vis FAQ on our Webpage and invariably, the hardest issue is access to those questions. We can classify them in many ways and invariably the classification is not perfect. Another way is to put together a searhcable database. These ideas are in the works. > 2) The help is very good. Could you extend it (in external text files) to > include a guide to using the software for people who are just starting to > go beyond the immediately obvious functionality? I'd like to see this > guide focused on tasks solving rather than specific functions, e.g. how > and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list. I am not sure what this is. I find many customers to become proficient then begin to research and experiment with other functions, the lesser frequently-used ones. Then all sorts of things happen! :) ... But I am not sure how to make a manual like that. Perhaps these would be better in the Tips and Tricks document in the Webpage? It started as a good idea, and needs more work... I think these kinds of things that pertain to usage would be better for the TnT page. What do you think? Goo look at it and let me know... Thanks for the post! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:13:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Renaming files with corrupted titles Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John, > Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming I assume you mean file nmes when you use "titles". You suggested that currupted, strange file names can be deleted by entering their "strange" name. I believe this is dangerous. When you have such files, you may also notice that they sometimes have a size far exceeding anything present on the palmtop (say 500MB file... ) The reason you see strange filenames to begin with is that the directory entries are corrupted or the FAT (File Allocation Table) is corrupted. What seems to be "strange" names are really hexadecimal characters being displayed, and many times not AT ALL true filenames. IOW, say a program overlaid the directory entries. Instead of showing the file names what you really see is bytes from the program for example. But if the name was overlaid, it is likely that the rest of information in the entry was too. That information points to the beginning of the file. Instead of pointing to say sector 15 track 40, the overlaid information (garbage from the program) is now pointing to oh sector 4552 track 7 (the numbers are purely mythical, just for illustration...) So by deleting the "file" you release sector 4552 track 7 which is nowhere near the original file. In fact, if you are lucky it is in the middle of "no man's land" unused by any other file. Most likely people will be unlucky on heavily used palmtops and will destroy another good program somewhere else... There is a much better way... Use CHKDSK and let it fix these errors. It will use information from the primary FAT and the secondary FAT to restore directories, and entries in the directories. The flaky file names will vanish after such a repair - since the directory entries will be overlaid again by proper data. If you have one file that was erroneously renamed to something unprintable :) it is easier to use the following: Assume the unprintable file name is "¨$ ¨7wwr~" Without the quotes and with that space in the middle. Use the the following command at the C: prompt: ren ¨??¨* junk. then del junk. Much easier, much safer. Sorry, John, I really did not think the advice you gave was safe to use... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:13:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Vander Stel: > The Juno website says that the minimum system requirements to run the > Juno software are as follows: > > * PC Compatible: 486, Pentium or higher > * Windows 95, 98 or NT 4.0 > * 9600 baud modem > * 8 MB RAM > * Mouse > * SVGA monitor > > That seems to disqualify the HP200LX from running the Juno software... or > does it, really? Well, I know of someone who still runs Juno software on > a really old 386 Running Windows 3.0 and a simple VGA monitor. The only > problem that they have in running Juno on their old system yet is that > animated ads sometimes take so much processing power that normal typing > of email is all but impossible. I believe this will not work, but you'll have to try it... 1. your friend may have an older version of the Juno executable. If you can get that version still you passed one hurdle. 2. Another issue may be that the 386+ requirement is because of instructions they use in their program that is not prsent on the 80186 chip, if so, you are SOL. 3. As you mentioned, their banner ads, their livelihood(!), are significant processor hogs. If you pay for the internet connection by time, it is not free, it very expensive - you pay the phone company or the ISP (or both) for Juno's advertisers to pound ads into your face... 4. They also use image maps to let you click on a specific region to access this service or another. These images may be beyond the capability of a CGA screen, nor do you have a handy mouse on the palmtop. 5. It sounds like in any case you'll need to run Win 3.0 (possible on the palmtop) and then some TCP/IP engine to connect to the internet, and then the Juno executable. I do not recall precisely the amount of program memory left inside Win3.0 but it was not a lot - don't forget: You start with 640K and go down: Win3.0 takes some (substantial), the TCP/IP engine will take some, then the Juno executable will too. It may be tight or impossible. But don't let my words discourage you. Try it!!! The worst outcome is that palmtop will explode into 5000 pieces :) ... But I think not :) Good luck. Please post the results here. I am definitely interested, and I am sure many others would too. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:41:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Intel Series 2x16 Flash Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to help somebody get a Intel Series Flash card to work on her palmtop. But since have loss the necessary drivers and setup instructions. So if anybody has these drivers/installation tips and or know a download location please post your comments. Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:41:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME Comments: To: Raffaele Gaioni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290821628__" --__next_part__1290821628__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crikey, If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't = improve. You're putting the natives to shame! Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered = Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese = - much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, = but I don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted = this opinion? Raffaele Gaioni wrote... > Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... > I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English > and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. > I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my > POOR english... :( --__next_part__1290821628__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290821628__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:13:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Palmtop and Flight Computer (E6B) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B flight computer program for the 100/200LX. A cursory search of the internet and my archive site (http://archive.hplx.net) turned up nothing. An E6B, for those who are wondering, is a little circular slide rule like device that lets pilots compute groundspeed, fuel consumption, weight and balance, etc. It seems to me that the palmtop would be ideal for this application; there are several apps like this available for the Palm Pilot. It'd be possible to write such a thing in Lotus or HPCALC... and I'd do it, if I could get my hands on the necessary equations. I was just hoping someone out there'd done it already. Thanks, Bill Bill Childers South Valley Consulting -- A 2x/32MB 200LX, WWW/LX, Ethernet, and ISDN. It's like riding a rocket-powered skateboard on the Information Superhighway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 23:22:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: Re X-finder: using Memo as the editor? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terrence Chun wrote: > How do you use Memo as the default editor? I had a little trouble with this but finally entered literally what is says in the instructions and it worked! simply enter in FINDER.ENV: %e ,b800 ,240r||me The logic of this syntax escapes me but it works. Laurence Harvey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:35:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Language (was EXCUSE ME) Comments: To: "chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK" There will always be cultural differences in what is "acceptable" language -- I dated a young Scottish woman who would've slugged me for trying to buy her a "fanny pack" to keep her passport and documents safe Ýbut she'd been around Americans and their "strange regional dialect" of the English language ;-) for some time and I would've only gotten chewed out: I remember "fanny" is offensive to some European women ... not sure why anymore ... but I apologize in advance to anyone who does and it offended¨. As long as the intent isn't bad in a post, we can all do OK, and, it's perfectly fine to discuss what might offend others, if taken out of context. Heck, many on this list are international businessmen and women who would benefit from the discussion! --tim, not-offended; nor trying to be offensive...... ÝToday ;-) ¨..... PS. I've got the same Edison quote (below) on display at the office and one of our artists came in today and took (mild) offense !! -- He said something like, "Good quote, too bad it came from someone who stole all his inventions from those who worked for him....". "... can't please all of the people ...." CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:47:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Greg Renda Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Greg Renda Subject: Re: Palmtop and Flight Computer (E6B) Comments: To: Bill Childers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a > dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B > flight computer program for the 100/200LX. A cursory search of the > internet and my archive site (http://archive.hplx.net) turned up nothing. Check out my page at www.jps.net/renda/greg. I've got several spreadsheets I used while working on my license. -Greg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:13:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Free Juno email and the HP200LX? I vaguely remember a post on Juno's website Ýwhen they first came up w/ the idea¨, that they had no plans to support DOS :-( I think Avi's hit the mark when he says something about the instruction set needing a 386, etc. I think Juno's a pretty neat idea too Ýset up w/ it once, set up a friend's father and that's ALL he uses, even though he now has an ISP!¨. I'll quote Avi here >But don't let my words discourage you. Try it!!! The worst outcome is that >palmtop will explode into 5000 pieces :) ... But I think not :) It'd be great to have it work on the palmtop - you may have to go into an emulator that fools the Juno server into thinking it's talking to a Windows machine Ýinsert legal disclaimer here ;-) ... dunno if it's 'cool' to do this¨. Heck, if Juno required it, I'd even be interested in text-based versions of some of the ads .... never want to miss a bargain AND you don't have to follow the ads, just see their headers, even in "Juno proper". Good luck, --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:30:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Hv and Japanese Fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT does anyone know where I can get the Dsp1402a file to display Japanese web pages with HV. I have found a few sites that say the file is dsp1402a.lzh but once I open it it's dsp1402. Has anyone ben able to read Japanese web pages ith HV. TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:41:12 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fernando Adaro Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fernando Adaro Subject: Password Lost MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dearest colleagues: I have lost the password of a memo file and have no clue on how to retrieve it. Sadly, this file is very important for me... Does anybody know how to crack the password? Thanks a lot ----------------------------------------------------- Fernando J. Adaro LanTech Juncal 1966 2 "D" Buenos Aires - Argentina Tel (5411) 4815-1166 Fax (5411)4816-6342 movil (5411)15 4445-0924 mailto:fjadaro@lantech.com.ar ICQ# 11239653 ----------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:53:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Movie Info --> Palmtop (was RE: Another program idea) Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" I ran the windows version of the program and it generates 5 Palm-specific .pdb files that must interlink somehow in the Palm-critters, using the normal synchronization session, I think Ýone file seems to be theaters, one movie names, another times, etc.¨. This almost makes me want to go out and buy a Palm-III/V-type device NOW! Somebody stop me!!!! <> Will any of the commercial synch programs import these Palm .pdb files into anything useful? I imagine I'll just browse to the Yahoo movie page in WWW/LX//HV Ý http://movies.yahoo.com/ ¨ and save the text of my search..... (I'd do it now, but I seem to have left my modem at home). --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -----Original Message----- Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) wrote: >I saw this app announced on a Pilot newsgroup and figured that we could use >something like this, too. > http://jrray.visionart.com/showtimes/ >What is does is download your local movie listings using a perl script and then >the app itself is a viewer for the datafile generated by the script. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:34:24 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Renaming files with corrupted titles Comments: To: A Meshar A Meshar writes: > John, > > > Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming > > I assume you mean file nmes when you use "titles". Yep > > You suggested that currupted, strange file names can be deleted by entering > their "strange" name. No I suggested a file with a corrupted name that has been created by a programming error can be renamed and then deleted if nessasary. Usually these have been empty files. Once I had a directory name become corrupted--I was able to change the name back, no problem, its been fine ever since. Since I have become a little more experienced programming, files like this have become less frequent but each time it happens I change the name so I can use it and delete it if needed. It works for me but like any other tip or trick the user uses at their own risk. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:20:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Palmtop Web server online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For a very brief time (from now until I leave work), there's a palmtop web server online using the LX Velcroed Web Server (don't ask... or at least ask Steve Lawson and not me) at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ . If you get a "No route to host" error, or if it just plain won't load, that means that I had to leave and took my palmtop home. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:26:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server online Comments: To: David Sargeant Worked GREAT in Netscape ÝExplorer 5.0 had fits¨. You didn't say you were linking us to an angel!! Great photo of your youngster. ÝÝI'd say, "Cute kid ... doesn't look at all like her dad" but all we've seen are the grey head-shots w/ your Thaddeus (Palmtop Paper) articles ;-) ¨¨ Makes me want to run out and get a network card for my LX.... Ýjust in a SHOPPING mood at the moment - headed to the gym instead, maybe I'll counteract the effects of my more sedentary toys!¨. Keep up the good work, --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:31:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server online In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225EEA@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote: > Worked GREAT in Netscape ÝExplorer 5.0 had fits¨. I can view it both in Netscape 4.5 and IE4. Maybe IE5 has a problem with it, or perhaps it was just a fluke... > You didn't say you were linking us to an angel!! Great photo of your > youngster. Just a quick test to see if the image-serving capability was up to snuff. It appears to work. No horrible bugs in the software so far (except one in the parsing of the config files, but it wasn't a "horrible" bug, so to speak, since obviously the software works great). > ÝÝI'd say, "Cute kid ... doesn't look at all like her dad" but all > we've seen are the grey head-shots w/ your Thaddeus (Palmtop Paper) > articles ;-) ¨¨ Just wait until Ian finishes up (or even STARTS! ) on my personal site at www.hplx.net. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:47:17 -0400 Reply-To: Cliff Crittenden Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Subject: Re: Palmtop and Flight Computer (E6B) Comments: To: Bill Childers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Bill, Here is an URL that lists most aviation math formulas. best.com/~williams/avform.htm I also have a book reference for you: The Axioms of Flight - Rules of Thumb for Pilots by James Embree Cliff Crittenden ======================================================================== On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Bill Childers wrote: > I'm beginning to make preparations to go for my private pilot's license (a > dream I've always had)... I've been wondering if anyone's written an E6B > flight computer program for the 100/200LX. ...> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:53:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ronald Fenton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ronald Fenton Subject: Re: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 20:41:45 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Password Lost Comments: To: FAdaro@nabsa.com.ar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/26/1999 07:54:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, FAdaro@NABSA.COM.AR writes: > Dearest colleagues: > I have lost the password of a memo file and have no clue on how to retrieve > it. Sadly, this file is very important for me... Does anybody know how to > crack the password? > Go to the super site & download "hpcrack." It will have you in the file in no time. Lucky for you, the protection is very weak. Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:11:53 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Fluff: Re: Rom Comments: To: d.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/26/1999 03:25:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, d.hertrich@GMX.DE writes: > > no, it's not legal to discontinue using the 200LX! > ;-) > But it oughtta be! Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:28:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I don't think you need to apologise. The Americans here may consider it a > pejorative term, but here in jolly old England it's just considered a > contraction of Japanese - not a nasty term in itself. Like any word, if > used in a particular context it could be considered nasty, but I found no > problem with your original post. I think this issue came up a long time ago (possibly on the original list), and FWIW I believe that JPN was preferred over JAP, so I'm providing this as a tip for those of you who don't really care and would just as soon use one term over the other. I'm not Japanese, so can't really speak for their reaction, but my wife (who is Japanese-American) and her family who were detained in the relocation camps during the war do still get a knee-jerk reaction from hearing the word...so I can tell you that for some people, your choice of terms do make a difference to them. Someone else likened the abbreviation to Brit for British, except I don't know that Brit was ever used as a derogatory term (now watch me get corrected). I agree with several other posters that 1) the use of the term JAP in the original post was made in a non-offensive way, 2) the poster needn't apologize and 3) we should get on with things. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:26:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Free Juno email on the HP200LX? >The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out www.palmtop.com >It uses the built-in CCmail. I'll definitely check that out before I start dedicating so much of my time to the Juno project. No sense in pursuing a solution to a problem that might already have a solution. Thanks John! :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:56:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP Hi Pete, >> I personally use "rcon" on my network to enable use of my desktop >> keyboard for much faster and easier direct editing on my HP200LX while >> I'm home. This comes in particularly handy when I'm developing rather >> busy batch files at home for use later on my HP200LX while on the road. > >Lets see, put a network card in the hp and use my desktop keyboard >while bent over squinting at the hp screen or just pop a flash card >into my desktop and use my 17 inch monitor, I think I will go with >the latter. For anyone looking for a pretty good deal on a desktop >dual slot pcmcia adaptor there was a guy with several for sale on >ebay. I got one for $46 and it works quite well. It is an older SCM >swapbox model, isa adaptor with a dual ribbon cable connected to a >3.5" sized pair of slots. > >Pete I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor. I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually go about this. The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own local drive H:. I can simply make the HP200LX's C: drive my current drive on my desktop (drive H:) and access everything on the HP200LX's drive, even if the HP200LX is busy doing something else. My understanding of this mode is that all operations are accomplished with my local desktop CPU, and that my desktop computer is simply querying the HP200LX's drive. This is a very fast, easy and efficient way to access the HP200LX's drives without having to use the HP200LX's keyboard and screen, at all. I Just slide the HP200LX into it's base and access it's file system just like any other local desktop drive. :-) In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-) I hope that better explains my thought processes and what I'm actually doing on this end, Pete. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:50:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Free Juno email for the HP200LX? Hi Avi and all, >1. your friend may have an older version of the Juno executable. If you can >get that version still you passed one hurdle. I have an early version on disk, but I don't know if it's actually the original version. If anyone has the original version from when they first started, please let me know. >2. Another issue may be that the 386+ requirement is because of instructions >they use in their program that is not prsent on the 80186 chip, if so, you are >SOL. That was a big concern, but not quite as big now due to a private email I received from another list member. Maybe I'm wrong, but my take on his message is that he had tried this on his HP200LX a while back with some limited success. It sounded like the ads might have been what caused the problems for him. I'm hoping to get around that problem in the way I described earlier. >3. As you mentioned, their banner ads, their livelihood(!), are significant >processor hogs. If you pay for the internet connection by time, it is not >free, it very expensive - you pay the phone company or the ISP (or >both) for Juno's advertisers to pound ads into your face... It actually IS free email access... There are local access numbers for 95% of the population now and it does not require an ISP. They offer direct dial numbers into their own servers. That's the beauty of the concept. Juno is completely free email. That's why their 6 million users are willing to put up with the ads. Please check it out at www.juno.com. Go ahead and Download it. Try it on your desktop PC. At the least, you'll have completely free email. Who knows, you might even be able to develop some great ideas on how to skirt the ads, as well. It would be a real shame if we didn't at least give it our best effort. This is a completely free resource that is still untapped by the mighty HP200LX. >4. They also use image maps to let you click on a specific region to access >this service or another. These images may be beyond the capability of a CGA >screen, nor do you have a handy mouse on the palmtop. That is my largest concern. I, myself, have never used Windows 3.0 without a mouse. So that is an area of this project that I'll need lots tips and hints about. I'm hoping that we'll be able to find a way around that too. I would hope that the tab will offer enough functionality to get us over that hurdle.. The impression that I've got from the time I've been lurking on this list is that many here have loaded Windows 3.0 on their HP200LX's for the Wow effect. I am counting on their input and experiences with that too. >5. It sounds like in any case you'll need to run Win 3.0 (possible on the >palmtop) and then some TCP/IP engine to connect to the internet, and then the >Juno executable. I do not recall precisely the amount of program memory left >inside Win3.0 but it was not a lot - don't forget: You start with 640K and go >down: Win3.0 takes some (substantial), the TCP/IP engine will take some, then >the Juno executable will too. It may be tight or impossible. No separate TCP/IP engine is needed to use Juno. The Juno software is all that is needed and it installs very easily on a desktop PC. I'm hoping that it will run without EMS or XMS. Again, I'm somewhat encouraged by that one related private email that I received earlier today. Either it will work, or it won't. I'll try it, and with everyone's help, I'll see what we can do to get around the ads. If that turns out to be the only problem, I'm hoping that we'll be able to figure out a way around it. (If anyone has any ideas at all on how it might be done ... no matter how bizarre the idea may sound... by all means, drop me a private email with it. Who knows what idea, no matter how far fetched, might inspire something truly remarkable. If we can get it to work, 95% of the HP200LX users in the USA will have FREE direct access to this list's traffic on their palmtops. :-) >Good luck. Please post the results here. I am definitely interested, and I am >sure many others would too. Thanks Avi. I definitely will post the results here. I did, however, get the extra serial cable for my HP200LX in the mail today, so I'll be finishing my docking station project first. As soon as I'm done with that project, I'll report my results here on the list... and then my plan is to hit the Juno project head-on. That will give me a little more time to collect some preliminary ideas. I'll be watching my email for any ideas anyone may have that might even remotely help with this free email project. (installing Windows 3.0, using it without a mouse, getting around the Juno ads, etc...) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:35:43 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: WinCE is a symptom of the illness that killed HP > I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a > network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a > user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the > distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the > HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor. > > I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example > because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually > go about this. > > The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network > actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own > local drive H:. I can simply make the HP200LX's C: drive my current > drive on my desktop (drive H:) and access everything on the HP200LX's > drive, even if the HP200LX is busy doing something else. > My understanding of this mode is that all operations are accomplished > with my local desktop CPU, and that my desktop computer is simply > querying the HP200LX's drive. This is a very fast, easy and efficient way > to access the HP200LX's drives without having to use the HP200LX's > keyboard and screen, at all. I Just slide the HP200LX into it's base and > access it's file system just like any other local desktop drive. :-) > > In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX > is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-) > > I hope that better explains my thought processes and what I'm actually > doing on this end, Pete. > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel I have seen references to rcon but never tried it. I assume it only does the dos text screen, not the sysmanager screen or cga graphics? Also, what do you use to share your hp200lx's drive on the network or is that a function of rcon as well? Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:15:24 -1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Graham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Graham Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crikey - You damn right you are going to be flamed for such an incensative, egotistical remark and attitude. I can not believe that all Englishmen subscribe to you views! Aloha - bob \ooo_ Automatic digest processor wrote: > > Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:41:54 +0000 > From: Chris Randle > > Crikey, > > If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't improve. You're putting the natives to shame! > > Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese - much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, but I don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted this opinion? > > Raffaele Gaioni wrote... > > Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... > > I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English > > and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. > > I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my > > POOR english... :( > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) this project that I'll need -- ............... http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:16:17 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME Comments: To: Bob Graham Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii EXCUSE ME... ...is this an LX forum or a semantics/prejudice/etymology forum? Please can we end this drivel and get back to the real subject before I puke? Roger Whitmarsh Bob Graham on 27/04/99 17:15:24 Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Bob Graham To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU cc: (bcc: Roger Whitmarsh/New Zealand/IBM) Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME Crikey - You damn right you are going to be flamed for such an incensative, egotistical remark and attitude. I can not believe that all Englishmen subscribe to you views! Aloha - bob \ooo_ Automatic digest processor wrote: > > Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 21:41:54 +0000 > From: Chris Randle > > Crikey, > > If the paragraph below is an example of your poor English, please don't improve. You're putting the natives to shame! > > Maybe other English speakers feel differently, but I've always considered Jap to be a perfectly acceptable (albeit slang) abbreviation for Japanese - much as Brit for British. We have derogatory words for the Japanese, but I don't think Jap is one of them. Am I going to be sorry I posted this opinion? > > Raffaele Gaioni wrote... > > Dear palmpotters I beg Your pardon... > > I didn't know that "jap" is a distinct prejorative in English > > and not a word to be used politely, as it has no humorous connotation. > > I didn't mean to hurt the sensibility of anyone: it's just due to my > > POOR english... :( > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) this project that I'll need -- ............... http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:32:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > ...is this an LX forum or a semantics/prejudice/etymology forum? Well.... it's all of the above, but mainly an LX forum . Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 22:34:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terrence Chun Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terrence Chun Subject: Re: Movie Info --> Palmtop (was RE: Another program idea) In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225EE6@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain On 26-Apr-99, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote: > I imagine I'll just browse to the Yahoo movie page in WWW/LX//HV Ý > http://movies.yahoo.com/ ¨ and save the text of my search..... (I'd do it > now, but I seem to have left my modem at home). I've been contemplating doing this for the last year or so. I never found a good movie listings page that was parsable. I just downloaded a page from movies.yahoo.com (never even knew that existed) and ran it through HTTX (on the Amiga, I'm sure there is an equivalent program in the DOS world which converts HTML to text). The resulting file could probably be easily parsed into a CDF which has fields for "Theater", "Address", "Phone", "Title", and "Times". This could then be converted into a .GDB using gdbio or gdbload. You could then sort through the file using the Database sort or subset functions. If I knew anything about programming in a DOS environment, it could be all self-contained, but alas I only know how to kludge things between my Amiga and the HPLX. Does anyone know how to get a long listing of movies for the area rather than having to get a short HTML page at a time? -- Terry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:24:11 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: LXNNTP & Errors Comments: To: Jeff Johns Jeff Johns writes: > Does anyone know if there is a line which can be added to or changed in the > wattcp.cfg file that will not cause '!' to be put in front of groups in the > incoming.jn file when lxnntp encounters an error during an online run? There is no such facility. I can add it if you like. Send me an email with a proposal (i.e. what errors you do want a ! and what errors you don't). -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:11:54 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: EXMBatch and KeyM Comments: To: Jeff Johns > > To configure ExmBatch to run a batch file called > > "c:\postlx\www.bat", you would type the following: > > > > c:\postlx\debug exmbatch.exm > > e 3857 "c:\postxl\www..bat" 0 > > w > > q > > Okay, I can do that, but the docs talk about Software Carousel and the 385x > numbers in the second line above and I don't have Software Carousel > installed. Is the above '3857' the correct number that I should use? 3857 is the correct number for ExmBatch version 1.5 - note that different versions will have a different number depending upon where the C compiler puts a certain string. Also note that you should read the documentation to determine what you should put in location 3853 - the default setting uses all memory (just like putting a '|' at the end of the path in the AppMgr), waits for a key after the command exists,and inhibits task switching. A great opportunity exists here for someone to write a LXBatch or LXHAPI program to configure ExmBatch instances ... -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:45:53 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Survey.... and POST/LX question Comments: To: A Meshar A Meshar writes: > YES!!!! This dead, obsolete, incapable, slow machine has THREE email products > SPECIFICALLY written for it, and several more adaptations of Internet Comms > (Rod? Chime in, will ya?) Since you asked ... LXPOP & LXNNTP are best for me, and some other people who use email and news like I do. But the main reason for this is due to the fact that if I don't like something that they do, then I just change them :-) Note that LXPOP doesn't support most of the things that Steven and Andreas are discussing ... Yet ;-) If you want Internet Connectivity for the HP200LX, and you want to get the source code for free, then look for LXTCP on SUPER. ÝThere, that's my open-source freeware plug in for the week :-)¨ -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:10:41 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: Re: Movie Info --> Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This almost makes me want to go out and buy a Palm-III/V-type device NOW! If this is all what you need the palmtop for, go and buy a PalmGameboy ... Anyway, I think the LX can do everything the Gameboy does, only on a different way. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:15:47 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "stephan.goeldi" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "stephan.goeldi" Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So are all the servers .jp offending? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:54:24 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Minimal C(++) installation on the LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)? I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries. Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it is also rather archaic - it's from 1988! I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style declarations, etc. Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any free ones? Regards, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:40:50 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Minimal C(++) installation on the LX? Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT try to install pacific C it's free (for non comercial used) compilater. it's good and small. http://www.hitech.com.au/products/pacific.html regards Alain > Hi all, > > I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself > for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a > useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)? > I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing > fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries. > > Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it > is also rather archaic - it's from 1988! > > I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style > declarations, etc. > > Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any > free ones? > > > Regards, > > Laust > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:51:05 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: pilot training software Comments: cc: childers@garlic.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm no pilot, but have been asked by a pilot if he may use my LXPIC software with his pilot training software. I don't know, if this software will run on the palmtop, at least the graphics should ;-). Have a look at: http://www.tomvale.on.ca ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:59:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME In-Reply-To: <199904262129.QAA26288x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well the term Jap in itself doesn't bother me and I'm japanese. Its more the way a word is used than the word itself. At least for me. :) Brian Sugita kaervek@ix.netcom.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:41:54 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Interesting info from Dosworld Magazine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I found these sites and info relevant to LX in a 1997 Mag called Dosworld. Is it still around? The sites below are and seem to have good DOS info. http://www.pressroom.com/~tglbatch/ Batch file techniques and samples http://student.vub.ac.be/~dvandeun/internat.html Founder of alt.msdos.batch newsgroup Also a copy/paste prog that MAY work on the LX 8088 processor yet ega req (I think) A listing of a batch synchronisation prog between directories. I'll enter it if it cant be found on the web. Freeware. Recycled software 800-851-2425 There is a lot more useful info in just this issue I have. Does anyone know if this mag is still predominately DOS based? In business? Web site? US 800 numbers (I am in Australia) Dos World 800-343-0728 86 Elm St Peterborough NH 03458 Any comments/info greatly appreciated TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:12:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: pilot training software Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE9085.A92CFAE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE9085.A92CFAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm no pilot, but have been asked by a pilot if he may use my > LXPIC software with his pilot training software. I don't know, > if this software will run on the palmtop, at least the graphics > should ;-). Have a look at: > > http://www.tomvale.on.ca I read the descriptions on the web site. It states that it's "For DOS, Windows 3.x and Windows 9x. On CD-ROM and Floppy. It only requires an IBM with 640K and VGA Card." I don't think the LX will be equivalent to a VGA card. Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE9085.A92CFAE0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Systems Consulting-Paul Ande___.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Systems Consulting-Paul Ande___.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Anderson;Paul FN:Systems Consulting-Paul Anderson ORG:Systems Consulting TITLE:President NOTE:Maximizing the Results of Information Systems TEL;WORK;VOICE:(860) 627-5393 TEL;WORK;FAX:(860) 627-5393 ADR;WORK:;;89 Main Street;Broad Brook;CT;06016-9701;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:89 Main Street=3D0D=3D0ABroad = Brook, CT 06016-9701=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.Systems-Consulting.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:Sales@Systems-Consulting.com EMAIL;INTERNET:Support@Systems-Consulting.com REV:19990423T132859Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE9085.A92CFAE0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , colin cohen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: colin cohen Subject: Lost HP200LX, help? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Can anyone suggest some help: I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last = night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but = there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back = in 10 days. Any ideas?=1A ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:40:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Free Juno email for the HP200LX? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just throwing my two cents in - I would suspect that bypassing their ad scheme violates some contract provisions for getting and using their email system. But I have never viewed or visited juno's site and I may be completely wrong. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:57:19 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: pilot training software Comments: To: Systems Consulting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > http://www.tomvale.on.ca > > I read the descriptions on the web site. It states that it's "For DOS, > Windows 3.x and Windows 9x. On CD-ROM and Floppy. It only requires an = IBM > with 640K and VGA Card." > > I don't think the LX will be equivalent to a VGA card. If I remember right, he wanted to keep it CGA kompatible, and was glad having found a graphics engine supporting CGA. Those really interested in the software should ask him. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:08:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I realize that the `reply' button caused my original message to Raffaele to appear on the list, and that this was a mistake on my part. I sent Raffaele a note not so much to complain about his use, but rather in the spirit that if I had said something equivalent in a language foreign to me, I'd want to know about it. As a student in England I learned, often through modestly embarassing situations about Anglo/American differences with `fanny' and `knock-up' and `toilet', among other words. I know that some of my mistakes in French, German and Japanese have sometimes produced great hilarity in those who heard them. I agree with those who say that this is, at best, a _very_ tangential issue to the purpose of HPLX. I waste your bandwith again only in the hope that having started this mess, perhaps I can now finish it as well... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:25:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Interesting info from Dosworld Magazine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Russell, I tried connecting to www.dosworld.com using an old bookmark that worked = at one time. The website has vanished.There was a lot of good info in the DosWorld mag. However to download any of the mag's software you had to subscribe to the magazine. It appears that's a moot issue. I haven't seen= DosWorld on the shelves for several months. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:27:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Lost HP200LX, help? Comments: To: colin cohen Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Colin. Tough luck about the LX. Considering it's been almost a month, the likelihood of its return is probably not good. My suggestion would be to declare it as stolen to your insurance company and buy yourself a new one. I lost my first LX about 2 years ago, having left it behind at a store, and was about to shell out for a new one but thought to contact my insurance company whose representative informed me: 1) Property is considered stolen if you left it somewhere (and knew where), but it couldn't be found after taking reasonable steps to locate it. 2) File a police report (however painful it is to admit in writing that you left it behind) 3) Stolen property is covered under most homeowner's policies My insurance paid for almost the full cost of replacement of my LX, including the 6mb/2x upgrade and modem. Good luck. - Longden PS Hope you had a backup of your data. colin cohen on 04/27/99 06:01:45 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to colin cohen To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Lost HP200LX, help? Can anyone suggest some help: I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back in 10 days. Any ideas? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:42:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Minimal C(++) installation on the LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Power C (www.mixsoftware.com) is a small ANSI C compiler that runs fine on the LX and needs under 1mb. You can probably cut it to about 500k after stripping out unnecessary libraries, tho I haven't tried to do so myself. Cost is $20, but that includes a very good printed reference (almost worth the price by itself). Also, my Turbo C++ 1.0 installation is about 550k (EXEs and includes), sans GUI and helps....I believe this is minimal. - Longden Laust Brock-Nannestad on 04/27/99 12:54:24 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Laust Brock-Nannestad To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Minimal C(++) installation on the LX? Hi all, I know this question has been asked many times before (and I curse myself for not saving some of those messages ;-), but how small can I make a useable installation of a decent C compiler (I only have a 6meg palmtop)? I was thinking something along the lines of Turbo C v1 or 2. Nothing fancy, such as the GUI. Just bare bones and standard libraries. Currently I have PCC (Personal C Compiler) and while it is very small, it is also rather archaic - it's from 1988! I would like some of the newer features, prototypes, ANSI style declarations, etc. Are there any other small C compilers available besides Borland's? any free ones? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:21:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Terry Owen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Owen Subject: DosWorld Magazine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I'm not sure how long ago - but Dos World mag has been incorporated into the publisher's new mag - Practical Windows (?). I think they bowed to the inevitable, that the pure Dos-only user base isn't enough to sustain a regular publication. But they still print stuff like batch file tips. I know that I use Win98, 95, 3.1 and Dos depending on which computer I'm at. I'm not an OS bigot, I've even used OS/2 Warp. Terry Owen (who has quite a stack of DW mag on her bookshelf) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:23:56 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: rcon (was WinCE is a symptom...) John J Vanderstel writes: > > I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a > network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a > user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the > distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the > HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor. This sounds extremely cool! Thanks for the fuller description, by the way. I have just one question--where does one find this "rcon?" Is it part of Netware, or something else? My apologies if you mentioned this before and I missed it. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:00:05 -0500 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: Renaming files with corrupted titles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might be interested in Professional Master Key (pmk32.zip on Simtel). Somewhat like Norton, it has 12 functions including unerase files and edit a raw disk map. You can search for the corrupted name (or a good file name in the same directory) and repair the disk directly - not for the "faint of heart". As I remember directory entries are 24 bytes long and file name occupies 8 plus 3 bytes. Works best on the LX with "mode bw80". John Musielewicz wrote: > Sometimes I get a file with a corrupted title. I do a lot of programming > on the LX and if I screw up my code it can create a file with a corrupted > title which I need to rename to work with. This is how I do it. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:25:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Palmtop Web server... again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The palmtop web server at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ is back up again, and should be up most of the day (the next eight hours or so). It's running an alpha version of LXVWS (the LX Virtual Web Server or the LX Velcroed Web Server, depending on who you ask). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:40:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server... again... In-Reply-To: from David Sargeant at "Apr 27, 99 09:25:10 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pretty cool! I just realized, I should have maintained a "peak usage" counter to keep track of how many concurrent connections it's servicing. Someone needs to setup an LX with multiple domain names to give the "virtual" part a demonstration. I could try, buy my connectivity sux here in greater metropolitan Saginaw Oregon... BTW - the "default domain" isn't set up (the one served to a pre-1.1 browser). You should be able to set that up by adding a path with no domain name to the left of the equal sign in the .DOM file. Since you're not servicing multiple domains, you can just point it to the same path as hp200.ipair.com. > The palmtop web server at http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ is back up again, > and should be up most of the day (the next eight hours or so). It's > running an alpha version of LXVWS (the LX Virtual Web Server or the LX > Velcroed Web Server, depending on who you ask). > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:07:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: HP LX <==> desktop interaction (was Re: WinCE is a symptom...) Comments: To: John J Vanderstel In-Reply-To: <19990426.225717.3566.5.j_vanderstel@juno.com>; from John J Vanderstel on Mon, Apr 26, 1999 at 10:56:56PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-27-02:56:56 John J Vanderstel: > I guess I should have explained what "rcon" really is. "Rcon" is a > network command that provides a "remote connection". It actually allows a > user to take control of a distant node's keyboard and it echoes the > distant node's screen to the local screen. During an "rcon" session, the > HP200LX's screen is echoed onto my local large desktop monitor. > > I should however mention now that I actually used the "rcon" example > because I felt that it would be easier to explain than the way I actually > go about this. > > The HP200LX's C: drive is a network drive on my network, but my network > actually tricks my desktop computer into thinking that it is it's own > local drive H:. Ý...¨ > In fact, while I'm accessing my HP200LX's drives in this way, my HP200LX > is usually tightly closed and out of sight! :-) I've evolved another approach to the problem, that works well for me. My desktop system (actually a laptop by preference:-) runs a Unix (Red Hat Linux by preference). I start by tackling the backup problem: lxtools under Unix, together with CVS and a little glue script, give me efficient incremental backups to a full live mirror image of the LX's filesystems, kept on the desktop. When I want to work on data that came from the LX, it's right there. I update that incremental mirror at least once a day, first thing in the morning. When I want to send something down, I lxcopy it down, perhaps zipping it first if it's big enough to merit the extra step of unpacking after it arrives. (Aside: wouldn't it be rocking cool to have a select handful of tools --- like maybe VR, HV, dbv, dodbf, ... --- that could read directly from .zip archives?) It gets pulled back next time a backup is taken. It's sure nice having gdbdump and gdbload running on Unix. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:36:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server... again... In-Reply-To: <19990427164032.9AC679611@mcp.sdl.continet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Steven Lawson wrote: > Someone needs to setup an LX with multiple domain names to give the > "virtual" part a demonstration. I could try, buy my connectivity sux > here in greater metropolitan Saginaw Oregon... Population 35. > BTW - the "default domain" isn't set up (the one served to a pre-1.1 > browser). You should be able to set that up by adding a path with no > domain name to the left of the equal sign in the .DOM file. Since > you're not servicing multiple domains, you can just point it to the > same path as hp200.ipair.com. Oops. Okay, it's set up now. And also, I set it up to be virtual. Try out http://www.ipair.com:7070 for a very simple site without graphics. And http://hp200.ipair.com:7070 has the big ol' graphics-laden (such as it is) site. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:05:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steven (Casey) Karp" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server... again... Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, David Sargeant wrote at 10:36 AM 4/27/99 -0700 >And http://hp200.ipair.com:7070 has the big ol' graphics-laden (such as it >is) site. FWIW, I just tried a recursive get against this version of the site with WGET and kept getting "End of file while parsing headers" messages. If it'll help, I can share details of my wget commandline and wgetrc file. Later note: I received the index.html file successfully, but then got the error on both robots.txt and sjulie.jpg. Same result trying to download the graphic directly (rather than recursively). C. -- "I think tradition is what endures. I'm partial to the erotic like having a rattlesnake come at us, but what endures is the flow of the river. The river will continue to flow as always. That's what these dishes are." -- Akimoto Yasushi while judging on "Iron Chef" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:15:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Palmtop Web server... again... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990427110531.0069754c@pop.ricochet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Steven (Casey) Karp wrote: > FWIW, I just tried a recursive get against this version of the site > with WGET and kept getting "End of file while parsing headers" > messages. If it'll help, I can share details of my wget commandline > and wgetrc file. You're right. That's odd... it worked last night. Okay, now it should work fine. Both of these are hosted on the same palmtop, using the "virtual" feature of the web server. http://www.ipair.com:7070/ http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:44:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the 200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could possibly fit into a pocket. I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is, indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:41:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: About the serial port's wake up feature Hi All, I did some tests and learned something interesting about the HP200LX's serial port. If I set com1 to "off" in setup while my HP200LX is running on batteries and then later connect it to A/C power, plug it into my network and turn it off, the network will still be able to communicate with HP200LX via it's com port... even though the setup screen still shows it's comport as being off. On the other hand, if I set com1 to off while my HP200LX is connected to A/C power, turn off my HP200LX and then try to connect, my network's query will not wake up the HP200LX's serial port and allow access to the HP200LX's drives. This appears to allow my HP200LX's serial port to always be off to extend battery life when on the road, and still connect with my network upon recieving a query from my network upon plugging in a network serial cable. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:21:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Rcon (remote connect) / clarification of my proposed project Hi Pete and All, >I have seen references to rcon but never tried it. I assume it only >does the dos text screen, not the sysmanager screen or cga graphics? You are right that it will echo only DOS text and ansi screens. >Also, what do you use to share your hp200lx's drive on the network or >is that a function of rcon as well? I've used the Little Big Lan (LBL) network software in my home office for drive sharing for 2 years now. I currently have two Windows 95 nodes connected via ethernet and my HP200LX connected via a serial link. ($75 per site. No charge per node, at all. You can find additional info on that proprietary network software at http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes) The "Rcon" functionality is included with the network software for optional installation and use. "Rcon DOES require an initial network connection to function. I don't know if Rcon (and Ncon) or the version that I'm using is proprietary or not. Just to clarify "rcon" further... the LBL network software also supports concurrent modem network connections to my lan. One may rcon to a remote node located on the other side of the world via a modem connection and therefore control that node as though actually there punching it's keyboard. The remote node's screen is echoed back through the modem connection. One could use this feature to check in on or even reboot a server while away from the office. The only difference in doing it via a modem network connection is the reduced connection speed. BTW, I just found out that I had misunderstood an earlier email. That person had run Juno on his 386... NOT on his HP200LX. :-( So, I now know of no one else who has tried this on a HP200LX. Again, I would have to load Windows 3.0 on my HPLX and then try loading the Juno software. It's possible that it will require EMS, XMS or even a VGA screen. I just don't know. Please note, however... If I find that there is already another free way to exchange email on my HP200LX, I won't pursue the rather uncertain Juno project any further. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:49:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops In-Reply-To: <19990427174403.B28415@mordor.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Bennett Todd wrote: > I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony > PCG-505TX: does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, > disappears into a bag. What are the size dimensions? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:00:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Comments: To: Bennett Todd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I curious why the Libretto (mine cost <$700 and weighs 1.7lb) which also does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux isn't a better solution... (IIRC the Sony PCG-505TX is $2200 -> $2500 i.e. the price of 3 of my Librettos)... Bennett Todd wrote: > > I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could > support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that > seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the > 200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could > possibly fit into a pocket. > > I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does > a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm > starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is, > indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the > PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic > tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop. > > -Bennett > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:15:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katd@CWIX.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Macros MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I received the following from a pal. Can anyone help him out? --- begin paste --- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: al chin Subject: Macros To: katd@cwix.com Kat Can you ask on the list, if you don't know... How to run the LX prime.mac file? I lost my macros but I have the file the problem is I can't get the macros back into the keys. There must be a way or they wouldn't have the file. yor pal al........................... --- end paste --- Kat -- K.Deutscher - katd@cwix.com - TheOpr@aol.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:18:04 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Comments: To: David Ness In-Reply-To: <37260956.6EE279C@Home.Com>; from David Ness on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 03:00:38PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-27-19:00:38 David Ness: > I curious why the Libretto (mine cost <$700 and weighs 1.7lb) which > also does a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux isn't a better solution... > (IIRC the Sony PCG-505TX is $2200 -> $2500 i.e. the price of 3 of > my Librettos)... Different strokes for different folks. The Libretto is definitely cool technology. It didn't make it for me. I can't touch-type on it, and its screen won't cut it for me as a workstation; it doesn't fit in a pocket, and yet it seems just a little too edgy to work with to adequately reward me for the effort of toting it about in my bag. This is clearly a matter of taste. For whatever it's worth, I've been working on my 505TX all day now, and the keyboard is still fine, I'm touch-typing on it as fast as I can on a full-size keyboard. And the screen is lovely. I'm moving in. This is home. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:27:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: ; from David Sargeant on Tue, Apr 27, 1999 at 11:49:47AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-27-18:49:47 David Sargeant: > 1999-04-27 Bennett Todd: > > Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does a _Spiffy_ job of running > > Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. > > What are the size dimensions? 10.2" * 0.87" * 8.2". -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:26:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Macros Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-27 02:15pm CDT, the following was written: > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:51:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: al chin > Subject: Macros > To: katd@cwix.com Did "our pal al" leave the list?!?! Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:35:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Macros Comments: cc: hobchi@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <199904271927.OAA30949x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > Did "our pal al" leave the list?!?! I'm not sure about that, but here's a possible solution to his problem. Open the System Macros application (ctrl+more on my palmtop, or "M" in the Application Manager) and do File... Open and open up the macro file you still have. Hit F10 (don't know if that's needed but I'd do it anyway), and then just exit. Your macros should be back on the function keys where they belong. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:38:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Macros MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Kat Deutscher wrote: > How to run the LX prime.mac file? Pur ir in c:\_dat Run "System Macros" - press MORE then M MENU F O Hopefully you see prime.mac listed - TAB to it and press F10. That's it! Regards, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:41:12 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Bennett Todd writes: > I've long fantasized about getting an OS on a pocket computer that could > support a reasonably Posix API, with a good ANSI C compiler available; that > seems to mean a 32-bit CPU. I was willing to live with the limitations of the > 200LX's keyboard and screen, because I hadn't seen anything better that could > possibly fit into a pocket. > > I think I may be changing my mind. Just got my hands on a Sony PCG-505TX: does > a _Spiffy_ job of running Linux, weighs 2.6lbs, disappears into a bag. I'm > starting to think that my LX will remain satisfactory for me just as it is, > indefinitely; it'll be the roving appliance that's always by my side, and the > PIMs will continue to live there doing their PIMish jobs, but the more exotic > tasks for a portable general-purpose computer will move to the teensy laptop. Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple bucks and be up and running again. After this. Have you looked at the Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the sony? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:45:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops >Bennett Todd writes: <> > >Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery >goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple >bucks and be up and running again. After this. Have you looked at the >Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the >sony? Ive been searching out various notebook/handheld setups for a while. Here are a few comments from my experience. 100lx/200lx/1000cx - Cant beat the battery life and versatility, but they are limited in their ability to run more 'current' software applications. PC-110 - Near 100/200lx size, with battery life comparable to a notebook with a color screen, and extremely versatile booting options. If you need more power than the 200lx, and can live with the short battery life... this machine is amazing. It also uses standard sony camcorder batteries making it easy to find spares. Libretto 50ct - about 4/3 the size of a PC-110 with similar battery life, but also moves up to a Pentium CPU, 800mb HD, etc. This is my 'notebook' of choice right now as its the size of a VHS tape, with a full PC capable of running Win95, Linux, etc. Sony 505 (any of the series) - This machine is more a traditional notebook, albeit a very sexy thin one. It has a beautiful large screen, various Pentium processors (depending on model), and everything you expect from a modern notebook. I would take one of these in a heartbeat as a notebook, but not as a replacement for an HP100/200. HP Omnibook 300/425/430 These machines are incredible for their time, and can be found quite affordably today (I should know, I tried to get one at auction and ended up with 4). These 2.8lb wonders have DOS+Windows+Excel+Word+HP Pims in rom, will get up to 9hrs battery life from their Nimh batteries and in a pinch can run off 4 AA batteries. Ive been using one as a traveling companion on trips where I'll be outside alot as their screen can't be beat outdoors, and find them similar to a large 'full size keyboard' version of a 200lx with the added bonus of running windows. At present im using the Libretto as my primary notebook, a Palm V as my PIM (although I always seem to fall back on my trusty 100lx whenever I stray), and the HP Omnibook 300 for outside use. If you have questions about any of the following, fire away. Hope this helps. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:12:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Sony has a (Mfrs est) 2.5h battery (net discussions say this is, in practice, an overestimate) or 6h from an extended battery (I think that's probably an overstatement, too). It is, IIRC, a 300mhz with 64mb + 6.4gb, 10" screen and decent sized keyboard. It is heavier than a libretto and bigger, surface-wise, but thinner. The `huge' differences are, IMO, _much_ better screen and keyboard for the Sony. _Much_ cheaper for the libretto. The Sony is in the $2200+ range while my libretto comes in at $700, (substiantally less than _lots_ of today's 200lxs). The question of `better' is clearly _deeply_ personal. I need to be able to carry all of my work on my travels, but I don't really need to actually do a lot of work while I travel. I need to get to things, and if something is bothering me I may want to work on it a bit, but I'm _not_ spending hours doing desk work while I am on the road. Ergo, the keyboard and screen limitations of the libretto don't bother me, any more than it bothers me to use my 200. I'm much happier carrying the lighter little machine and less troubled by the thoughts of loss because it is so cheap. If I had to actually _do_ a lot of work while on the road, then I'd appreciate the higher quality of the Sony screen and keyboard and be willing to put up with worrying about the $2k+. On the other hand, if I really had to do that, I'd probably go up to an 366mhz Inspiron 7k and get a 15" beautiful screen that I could use to watch DVD movies... Having dumped my Palm and gone back to the 200, I now am quite content with 200+Libretto+Desktop. I am finding that I use the 200 less, though, as a good cellular phone has caused me to drop using the 200 as a phone book, and if the phone's calendar features ever become decently operative, it may end up getting left behind after long and faithful service. John Musielewicz wrote: > > Laptops are nice but they get horrible battery life. Plus when the battery > goes dead you can't just pop into the nearest store and plock down a couple > bucks and be up and running again. After this. Have you looked at the > Tinynote? What do you think of the libretto? What are the dimensions of the > sony? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:22:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-27 04:12pm CDT, the following was written: > it may end up getting left behind after long and faithful > service. I'll give you $50 for it . Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:40:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Free email for the HP200LX? >The 200LX already has free internet mail access. Check out www.palmtop.com >It uses the built-in CCmail. I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if the email service described above requires a long distance phone call to connect? I found no reference at all on that website about a nationwide local or 800 connection number. If it requires a long distance call to connect from Grand Rapids, Michigan, it's definitely not free for me. However, if we all can already connect to this email service without incuring phone charges, then it would be rather pointless to pursue using free Juno email on a HP200LX that would require Windows 3.0. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:54:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local area for the service's phone number. But!... it happens so fast, that you might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider. I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no other association with them. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if the > email service described above requires a long distance phone call to > connect? > > John Vander Stel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:20:22 EDT Reply-To: Mberri01@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: 200LX and Outlook98 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi people on list, I'm struggling around to get my 200LX contacts synchronized / transferred in a proper shape to outlook 98/97 and can't get it done to satisfaction> Is anybody there who would be willing to help me out I',m that I wouldn't be the only person who have this problem. Thanks in advance for your answers. from Michael Berrier @mberri01@aol.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:52:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: 200LX and Outlook98 Comments: To: Mberri01@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the problem, and do you have CPACK200? Michael Berrier wrote: > > Hi people on list, > > I'm struggling around to get my 200LX contacts synchronized / transferred in > a proper shape to outlook 98/97 and can't get it done to satisfaction> > Is anybody there who would be willing to help me out I',m that I wouldn't be > the only person who have this problem. > Thanks in advance for your answers. > from Michael Berrier @mberri01@aol.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:00:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? Actually, I don't think it's free. I think it's a "try it out and send money if you like it" deal. I tried it out but found it wasn't all that useful for me. It was nice to finally use CC:mail... -----Original Message----- From: Phil Drummond To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: 4/27/99 5:54 PM Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Free email for the HP200LX? This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local area for the service's phone number. But!... it happens so fast, that you might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider. I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no other association with them. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > I don't remember who posted the above comment, so does anyone know if the > email service described above requires a long distance phone call to > connect? > > John Vander Stel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:16:06 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Interesting info from Dosworld Magazine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ed Keefe wrote: >I tried connecting to www.dosworld.com using an old bookmark that worked at >one time. The website has vanished.There was a lot of good info in the >DosWorld mag. Thanks for trying Ed I wonder if Dosworld has or would create a CD of old issues and info? Anyone able to investigate? Any interest? Anyone with old issues they want to sell? Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:22:23 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Off topic Insurance was Lost HP200LX, help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Longden wrote: my insurance company >whose representative informed me: > >1) Property is considered stolen if you left it somewhere (and knew where), but >it couldn't be found after taking reasonable steps to locate it. >3) Stolen property is covered under most homeowner's policies Hi Longden & list. Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which insurance Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin has? Colin may I suggest a careful check of your policy wording. I've had 2 LXs lost/stolen in public places and could claim neither one. Good luck Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:55:11 EDT Reply-To: Mberri01@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: 200LX and Outlook98 Comments: To: DNess@home.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, thanks for the reply. Yes, Ido have theCPPack but can't get done . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:35:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: DosWorld Magazine Comments: To: Terry Owen >I'm not sure how long ago - but DOS World mag has been incorporated into >the publisher's new mag - Practical Windows (?). Yep, I'm still a subscriber Ýto DOS World¨ and there's a little spot on the corner of the new magazine (I think it is Practical Windows) that says something like, "Now Incorporates DOS World" Ýthey couldn't get away w/ "DOS World has been assimilated" ;-) ¨. You get a CD full of utils. w/ each edition; some still are DOS specific. >I know that I use Win98, 95, 3.1 and DOS depending on which computer I'm >at. I'm not an OS bigot, I've even used OS/2 Warp. Ditto - the Army even forced me to learn/use BTOS ÝBurroghs (sp?) Task Operating System¨ for a bit. since my 1st OS was the Amiga's, I consider myself immune to our Sergeant Major's MAC preaching. I wanted to use the word "multi-cultural" but I'm searching for its OS equivalent. I've always held that, "You can't drive nails with a shovel; but I'll be damned if I'm going to dig a ditch with a hammer!" Ýthat's my back-woods way of preaching right back at her (the Sergeant Major here) that we should always use the right tool for the right job ;-) ¨. I've found some pretty useful shareware on the disks, but nothing I use in my LX Ýread: It's mostly Win-stuff¨. Disturbing to hear the DOS World website is off-line, I had paid an extra bit to get to their archives ..... I'll have to check to see if I have any $$ due me! <> --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:09:57 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Rcon (remote connect) / clarification of my proposed project Comments: To: John J Vanderstel In-Reply-To: <19990427.144230.4390.1.j_vanderstel@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I was looking for this sort of solution. is there a place where you can download a demo version? regards Alain PS: did you try to connect the LX trought an Accton 2216 card? > I've used the Little Big Lan (LBL) network software in my home office > for drive sharing for 2 years now. I currently have two Windows 95 nodes > connected via ethernet and my HP200LX connected via a serial link. ($75 > per site. No charge per node, at all. You can find additional info on that > proprietary network software at > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/imodes) Al Wyn@comcen.com.au Melbourne / Australia ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:12:55 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Off-Topic: tiny laptops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When originally shopping for a small computer I ran across the one whos specs are below yet wisely chose the 200LX :)) Very close for me though. LCD 640x200 CGA 18.2cm(~7")wide 6.5cm (~2.5")high CPU F8680 compatible Bios Phoenix C&T superstate DOS DR Dos6.0 + PalmDos 1.0 PIM Built in Rom IO Serial+Parallel+I/R+CGA out PCMCIA x1 SIZE 23x12x3cm (~9x~5x~1.25inches) KB Standard PC 86 keys Battery AAx2 / 8VDC 300Ma from AC adapter Operating 15 hours from AA Data protection 90 days from dead batteries Weight 0.5KG (less than 1 lb) Speed selectable Hi/Lo Memory/Storage RAM 640K ROM 1MB SRAM 128k EXT HD 512MB Price was less than the 2MBLX Taiwan made. Does anyone know specs on the CPU? Mack is this a possible for LX Motherboard Replacement? Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:18:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle of doing this manually. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:32:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I must be missing something in the question Jeff. What do you want to `trigger' the operation. It is pretty easy to get the contents of a web page written into a file by a short bit of code in many different executable environments (I use J, for example). Once it is on your machine in a file, clearly it can be mailed. I guess what I'm missing is where you're hung up in this process: (1) getting something to run on your machine on schedule; (2) getting a page into a file given a url; or (3) getting that file mailed... Jeff Johns wrote: > > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL > and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something > that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday > to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was > something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle > of doing this manually. > > Jeff > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 23:37:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: David Ness In-Reply-To: <37268F6E.6E1DCE46@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, David Ness wrote: > I must be missing something in the question Jeff. Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something that will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know there are web based services that will send out weather and news and sports scores and was just wondering if anyone knew of a service that would allow you to specify a certain URL to be mailed, I don't even care if it had an advertisement attached. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:09:05 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: vi Tutorial >Hi David, > >have you looked at the text editor Joe - less complex than vi and >readily available (you've probably got it already) You missed the point. I dont really want to use vi as a n editor on my palmtop I want to use Calvin on my palmtop (and HV and the GDb app) in order to LEARN vi, so that I can use it on my new Linux desktop. The point is that the palmtop, IMHO, is an invaluable learning tool. ====================== David Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ====================== ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:26:17 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff, Does the get utility from www/lx not cover your needs? From get.doc: "GET.EXE is a simple utility that supports offline reading of Web pages. GET downloads all documents that are listed in a given file and saves them to a local file. The file with the list of documents to download consists of one or more lines, each specifying a URL and a local file name, e.g. http://www.dasoft.com/ c:\tmp\file1.htm http://www.dasoft.com/feedback.htm c:\tmp\file2.htm " - you could launch www/lx and get from an appointment if you wanted to do this on a regular basis. GaryS > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain = URL > and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something > that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit = everyday > to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there = was > something available on the internet that could save me the time and = hassle > of doing this manually. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:18:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Free Juno email for the HP200LX? Hi All, I originally got the following note as a private email, but since it has also now shown up on the list, I'll go ahead and reply to the list, as well. >Just throwing my two cents in - I would suspect that bypassing their ad >scheme violates some contract provisions for getting and using their >email system. But I have never viewed or visited juno's site and I may >be completely wrong. I pondered that thought quite deeply too. I have not reverse engineered the software and am not changing it into an unnatural state, in any way. I'm talking about merely deleting unwanted data files, that's all. I'll have to check the contract again just in case they mention something about this now, so thanks for reminding me... But I still see no way that they could proclaim it illegal to delete simple data files from my hard drive. At the time that I rigged up that work around for a friend, I found nothing in the contract that prohibited one from simply deleting extra data files. I originally did that for them only because their machine (which was well within Juno's minimum specifications at the time) was unable to process some of the new animated ads that Juno was allowing the advertisers to use without making typing all but impossible. I was merely deleting excess data files, thus making it possible to continue use of the free email software for it's intended purpose. Because the service and software is free (and can even be legally copied for friends), Juno eventually distanced itself from it's customers so severely that they no longer took calls from their customers unless the customers used a 900 help number and paid by the minute for the privilege. Juno stopped offering a reasonable way for customers to report problems, so they didn't even know that there was a problem, at that time. Juno customers were forced to fend for themselves, so that's what we did. Again, the ads that the Juno software automatically downloads are actually simple separate data files. If the Juno software were to be updated so that downloaded data was automatically integrated into it's own internal database, then I'd be extremely wary of disassembling their proprietary internal database to delete internal data. I'll have to look at their contract again, but I still know of no law that requires me to keep unwanted data files on my hard drive. I'm just hoping that Juno doesn't decide to change their software so that it starts using an internal database to store ads. Please let me know if you feel that my logic is flawed in some way. I'm open to your thoughts on this matter. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:49:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Off topic Insurance was Lost HP200LX, help? Comments: cc: rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU >Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which >insurance Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin Message-Id: <19990428054952.DOEK23902@Ý12.72.154.111¨> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:49:52 +0000 My insurance carrier is Auto Club of Southern California (yes they do homes too). I left my LX on a shopping cart in the parking lot of a store....you can't get much more public than that. >Colin may I suggest a careful check of your policy wording. I've Good advice. Maybe I just lucked out cuz ACSC makes most of their money off our cars. You don't have anything to lose by calling your agent tho. >had 2 LXs lost/stolen in public places and could claim neither one. I see you live in Oz...could there be a difference in how they handle claims vs the US? Or did your losses occur while living elsewhere? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 03:57:30 -0400 Reply-To: rtatham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: rtatham Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff for a time I had the "get" function in www/lx set up to download the front page of the London Times. I put it in my calendar to execute at about 4 am each morning and would have the page when I got up. I stopped doing it (didn't find the time to read it every morning). The set up came straight from the instructions in the get documentation. There was also an article in Palmtop Paper about 2 years ago on setting this up. Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:59:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean Hoger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean Hoger Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Jeff's point is being missed. It seems that he is looking for a service on the net that will automatically email him a specific web page at a specifed time during the day. Example: There is a certain news page that you look at once a day. It would be nice to have it emailed to you once a day so you don't have to go on the WWW to read it. I think utilities that would be run from the palmtop defeat the purpose as you could just as easy get on the web to read it! I could be wrong though ;-) Sean -----Original Message----- From: Gary Spiers To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 2:25 AM Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Jeff, Does the get utility from www/lx not cover your needs? From get.doc: "GET.EXE is a simple utility that supports offline reading of Web pages. GET downloads all documents that are listed in a given file and saves them to a local file. The file with the list of documents to download consists of one or more lines, each specifying a URL and a local file name, e.g. http://www.dasoft.com/ c:\tmp\file1.htm http://www.dasoft.com/feedback.htm c:\tmp\file2.htm " - you could launch www/lx and get from an appointment if you wanted to do this on a regular basis. GaryS > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL > and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something > that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday > to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was > something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle > of doing this manually. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:19:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim R <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Apex Modems (init code?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I'll be away from my work computer again for a bit; so please cc: this addr. and/or the hotmail one below. I've seen that some folks use their LXs w/ the Apex Data v.34 cellular modem. I'm still waiting for one adapter for the cell phone (backordered at Mob. Planet) but wanted to use the modem w/ a land line. Are there any special init. codes, steps or drivers I must use w/ the LX? WWW/LX doesn't seem to recognize it, and I don't think I've had any signs of success w/ the built in COM program either (can't remember all I've tried). TIA, --tim PS. Yep, I'm one of the "double-subscribed" Ýfull reeipt at work, digest at home .... must be an LX addict ;-) ¨. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Timothy T. Raymond, | You could never tie 8 | cats together and make ttraymond@hotmail.com | *them* pull a sled... ----------------------------------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear. --Ralph Waldo Emerson =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:38:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-28 06:59am CDT, the following was written: > I could be wrong though ;-) Nope, you are correct :) I do appreciate everyone's input. Someone mentioned a script on my shell account and that may be the best way to accomplish the task. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:44:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? In-Reply-To: <199904280421.XAA04323x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Apr 27, 99 11:18:49 pm Content-Type: text > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL > and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something > that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday > to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was > something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle > of doing this manually. You could probably write a shell script to do this for you on you shell account. Problem might be scheduling it to run. Many ISPs, mine included, have completely crippled the system scheduler for normal users. They have always disabled the AT command, but until about a year ago you could still schedule things through a local crontab. But they've even disabled this feature, as a security measure. Your ISP may be more trusting, or perhaps you could explain your intentions and get an exception for your job. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:13:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: Off topic Insurance was Lost HP200LX, help? Comments: To: Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <1286863553-40355859@talent.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Policies I have had exclude property left in a public place. Which insurance >Co did you use? Anyone else had experiences like Colin has? > I had my first HP100 "disappear" within a couple of weeks of buying it. I was on a business trip and knew whn I last had it, and when I discovered it missing. I called my State Farm agent, and got reimbursed for my loss. I don't remember much about the deductible, % recovered, etc. There is something that I do remember about whether it is classified as personal or business property that made a difference. Althought I was on a business trip, I considered it personal property not used for bsuiness. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:17:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: DosWorld Magazine Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" In-Reply-To: <8DE7A813C6C1D211BD1B0090272A78C1225EF3@N3CDOIMMAIL160M> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Well, *somewhere,*... >I'm still trying to develop the best method of keeping track of all the >stuff that happens to us each day ;-) >> Tim: You might want to check out FFDB, recently uploaded to SUPER. I have used InfoSelect for collecting random bits of info that are immediately necessary, as well as some that may one day become necessary. FFDB is similar in function. As long as you enter the info into the database, you can search by date or by words to find it again. And best of all, the cost is only $10, so it is worth a try. Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:37:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Apex Modems (init code?) Comments: To: 71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You need the cic100 line - find the example either in the d: rom autoexec.bat or the c:autoexec.bat. Remove any REM statement. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:35:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Using GDB files on desktop? In-Reply-To: <199904252107.XAA17339@pinkerton.cs.unibo.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine. Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.) Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a definitive answer. TIA Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:36:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Using GDB files on desktop? Comments: To: Alan Peres Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't believe there's a built-in solution, but you can use PALRUN and DBV from the SUPER site to run at least a PAL-based viewer on the desktop. Also, if you have CPACK200 (from the Connectivity package), it includes the HP database app, tho it's not a Windows app like your Omnibook PIM stuff are. - Longden Alan Peres on 04/28/99 07:35:57 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Alan Peres To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Using GDB files on desktop? I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine. Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.) Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a definitive answer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:40:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Using GDB files on desktop? Comments: To: Alan Peres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doesn't the connectivity pack do it? Alan Peres wrote: > > I have the HP PIM files form the Omnibook installed on my desktop machine. > Using these I can read my palmtop ADB and PDB files form the PCMCIA card on > which they are kept. (Makes it easier on my aging eyes.) > > Is there any way to do the same with the database files? I can't find any > apps in the Omnibook files but was hoping someone could give me a > definitive answer. > > TIA > > Alan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:42:59 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "rutherford b. martin" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "rutherford b. martin" Subject: 100lx repair Qs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain hey i have an HP 100lx (1meg RAM) with a screwed up display--it turns on, but all you see is 10-15 black horizontal lines, a couple dozen grey horizontal lines, and a couple vertical lines. you can see just enough of the screen to ascertain that the computer still works--but thats it. the problem started after i left the unit out in my car during a cold snap this past winter. ive been told that its repairable; the "zebra" connector inside the display side of the case needs cleaning. is this, assuming i have rudimentary electronics/soldering skills, something a normal human can do at home? or should i send it to thaddeus? or should i just buy another 100/200lx somewhere? im determined to stay on this platform, so no suggestions to move to a CE machine, please! thanks r.b. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:21:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? Hi Phil, >This service requires long distance charges, unless you are in the local >area for the service's phone number. But!... it happens so fast, that you >might not care, unless it's your main (only?) email provider. > >I have a "free" account with Palmtop.com, but other than that I have no >other association with them. You make a good point there, Phil. That's pretty close to free if you figure that a quick 1 minute download should cost no more than a quarter from almost anywhere if CC:Mail's dialing setup is flexible enough to handle calling card procedures. In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60 registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege. Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account): Can you answer these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of Palmtop.com mail? My thoughts are that we could have the Palmtop.com server echo all mail to our normal email accounts for home access and then access the Palmtop server only when we're on the road. If this procedure works well in actual practice, the interface is easy to use, and the whole system is flexible enough for my purposes, then it would be close enough to free for me. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:12:14 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've just posted the first pass of a converter which will convert Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX. You can get it at my web page, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html It uses OLE automation to pull data from Outlook (you must have Outlook to run it), and then commands Steve Roth's GDBDUMP and GDBLOAD program to get data into the LX format. =46eatures (so far): * Individually select folders within Outlook's main Contacts folder for export. * Works with any PDB or GDB file. * Lets you map fields however you want between the two. * Multiple Outlook fields can be mapped into one HPLX field, so if the first one is an empty field, it will use the data from another field. This is a Visual Basic 5 program, and requires you have the VB5 runtime files installed (there is a pointer to this on the above web page). Please let me know if this is useful.=20 One thing I need to know - I think Outlook installs the file Msoutl85.olb. If you have Outlook and don't have it, please let me know because I'll have to include it in the distribution. Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook. Would anyone use this? --=20 Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:19:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there. The page is small and palmtop "friendly". Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services (mail forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money. The total package, less domain registration service is $60US. My method of use is to have my mailbox forward my mail to Palmtop.com when I am out of town. This way, people do not have to know the Palmtop.com address and I don't have to worry about mail going there and getting overlooked when I am back in town. When I reply from the Palmtop.com mailbox, I include instructions for replying to help the recipient ignore the P.com address. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to > other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on > their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of > it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60 > registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege. > > Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account): Can you answer > these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of > Palmtop.com mail? > > John Vander Stel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:31:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? In-Reply-To: <199904281618.LAA01594@sdds0.pagenet.com> from Phil Drummond at "Apr 28, 99 11:19:14 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems like I recall that palmtop.com can allow POP3 access to their mailbox for registered users. That would allow you to use them as your permanent address, using CCMail on the road and Eudora/Netscape/Etc while in the office. No need for your recipients to figure out how to reply to a different address. Heck, if you wanted them to mail your work address, a couple beers to the MIS guys (or Jolt colas, depending on the geek factor there) should get you changed to being an alias for your palmtop.com address. Thus, you@your.work.com forwards to you@palmtop.com > The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com > If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there. The > page is small and palmtop "friendly". > > Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services (mail > forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money. The total package, less > domain registration service is $60US. > > My method of use is to have my mailbox forward my mail to Palmtop.com when I > am out of town. This way, people do not have to know the Palmtop.com > address and I don't have to worry about mail going there and getting > overlooked when I am back in town. When I reply from the Palmtop.com > mailbox, I include instructions for replying to help the recipient ignore > the P.com address. > > Phil > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > > > In fact, if I understand correctly, Palmtop.com will echo your mail to > > other email address, as well. I just can't tell from the information on > > their website if the server will echo email to other addresses outside of > > it's own domain, and if so, if the user is required to pay the $60 > > registration fee and/or pay a monthly charge for that privilege. > > > > Phil (or anyone else with a free Palmtop.com account): Can you answer > > these questions? Do you have any other thoughts on this possible use of > > Palmtop.com mail? > > > > John Vander Stel > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Apex Modems (init code?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tim R <71250.1550@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote: > I've seen that some folks use their LXs w/ the Apex Data v.34 > cellular modem. I'm still waiting for one adapter for the > cell phone (backordered at Mob. Planet) but wanted to use the > modem w/ a land line. > > Are there any special init. codes, steps or drivers I must > use w/ the LX? WWW/LX doesn't seem to recognize it, and I > don't think I've had any signs of success w/ the built in COM > program either I have the ApexData (Smart Modular) V.34 PCMCIA modem. I don't use any special init codes. The modem will autoconfigure itself by recognizing whether the landline or cel cable is attached. There is a driver required by the palmtop in order to create the COM2 serial port where the slot modem is. You can put the following line in your AUTOEXEC.BAT file: d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1 to load this driver. Set your comms program to use COM2 or the PCMCIA modem and you should be fine. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:55:28 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: HELP!! I'm drowning in E-mail. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wrote: > Could you share your macro Ýto put the original sender's Email address > and name into the beginning of my reply¨ with us? How do you access > a specific line in the original message? Sure. Here is the macro code as you would put it into the PE.MAC file. I have it assigned to the Alt-F key. I had to break up the macro string to be on several lines for the message, but it sould be one long string on the PE.MAC file. I don't know how useful this string is because it is not human readable and I expect you will not be able to use it as is. ;Alt-F From Qoute #2100=#4100#3e00#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#0d3d#011b#3e00#2146#1372#186f #326d#273a#3920#011b#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#4d00#011b#3920#3e00 #343e#011b#4d00#d500#4100#d600#3920#1157#1372#186f#1474#1265#0e08 #0e08#0e08#0e08#0e08#1177#1372#186f#1474#1265#273a#1c0d#1c0d#4100#7700 I will explain the conditions this macro needs and how it works. When I go to reply to an Email address, Post will go ahead and launch PE with two files open. NEW_MSG.TXT and ORIG_MSG.TXT. The first file is an empty file where I compose the reply - just as I am doing right now. The second one is a copy of the message I am replying to in a special format I have defined. There is the body of the message followed by a row of equal signs and then the Internet header. PE has the ability to switch between these two files with the F7 (Next) key. I created the macro by practicing what I wanted it to do and then recorded it with PE's keystroke recording feature. Then I had PE paste the macro into the PE.MAC file, I assigned the Alt-F key to it and now it works perfectly. Here is what the macro does. When PE opens, it is set to the NEW_MSG.TXT file. The macro does an F7 to switch to the other ORIG_MSG.TXT file, then it does a Find (F4) and a series of (I think) 5 equal signs to make sure it finds the divider between the body and the header. My first attempt at the macro didn't have this and it would find the From: in a forwarded message. Now, it always skips over all that to the header of the message I am replying to. After the dividing line is found, I use the Find command again to look for the string From: followed by a space. This locates the beginning of the sender's name & Email address. Then I highlight the rest of that line to the CRLF. After that, it is a simple Copy operation, F7 (Next) to go back to the empty NEW_MSG.TXT file, Paste, then add the Wrote:, two blank lines and the end with a Next back to the orginal message and a Home to get the cursor at the beginning of the message so I can dig out a small quote. PE's built in Help (F1) will give you all the keystrokes to start record a macro, stop record, past the macro string, begin highlighting, jump to end of line, Cut and Paste. Of course, you macro will probably need to be different because you may not have the Post/PE combination set up the same as I have. But consider this a good start to working out the details yourself. Have fun. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:47:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The idea of using Palmtop.com as an alias is a good one, but I'm behind a firewall and can't POP3 to an outside server. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Lawson ÝSMTP:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM¨ > > Heck, if you wanted them to mail your work address, > a couple beers to the MIS guys (or Jolt colas, depending on the geek > factor there) should get you changed to being an alias for your > palmtop.com address. Thus, you@your.work.com forwards to you@palmtop.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:10:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit test ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:29:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Fw: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them... Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it anymore, what would be the harm? What am I not seeing here? Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:30:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: news.hplx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a registration process to get access to news.hplx.net? Doesn't seem like it's possible to just conenct to it without authentication... Philippe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:31:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Personal Food Assistant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there's an updated PFA database lying somewhere around? I just bought PFA from Thaddeus and it looks fantastic (even if made for the 95LX), and I was wondering if they ever sent database updates to their users... Thanks, Philippe :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:34:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook since I've created it! Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it! Philippe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much = memory for System Manager (to run more apps). Right now I have: Config.sys: spd31.exe (doublespeed TSR) Config.sys: lxmdrv.sys (driver to run EXP's card/modem) Autoexec.bat: cic100.exe (card client TSR) Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR) Autoexec.bat: andrew3.com (font TSR) Autoexec.bat: moreexm.com (More EXM TSR) Sc.bat: carousel (a TSR???) Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned = off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total. The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else? Thanks a lot in advance! Philippe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:07:24 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents: (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster; (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment manager' is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_ different than my notion of `better', so that even if you were to succeed wrt the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway. The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and there are better and better alternatives. And there are more people wedded to particular representations (witness the Palm Pilot) that you won't be able to satisy anyway. No matter where your cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative technology is, I would argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that crossover every day. I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III. I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's `phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment manager' will probably decline as well. IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium into the 200---a nice fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to failure. Fryday wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM > applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright > issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of > people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them... > > Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that > would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to > the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it > anymore, what would be the harm? > > What am I not seeing here? > > Philippe :) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:16:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700, Fryday wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much = =3D > memory for System Manager (to run more apps). > > Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR) > > Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned =3D > off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total. > > The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else? Try installing MaxDOS, but from what I see Buddy is your #1 killer. (:-( Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:23:16 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, buddy is pretty fat, but it's so ubiquitous that I don't think I could live without it! MAXDos probably won't help me unless I use DOS programs -- but my main problem is trying to use more EXP apps... Is there any way to load some of these TSR programs in high memory? Philippe :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Quinton Jones Jr To: HPLX Mailing List ; Fryday Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:35:14 -0700, Fryday wrote: > Hi! > > I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much = > memory for System Manager (to run more apps). > > Autoexec.bat: buddy.com (buddy TSR) > > Anyway, in the first System Manager session of SC, with Filer turned = > off, in More..., I get: 381K Free / 426K Total. > > The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else? Try installing MaxDOS, but from what I see Buddy is your #1 killer. (:-( Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:27:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, seeing that there's still people in this list using DOS programs because one way or another it has additional features, it would seem fair to assume that these features could be added to the original apps. All we need is the original code -- yeah easy to say -- to slap on additonal stuff to these programs to make them more useful (like regular expression searches in all apps...) Agreed, what I find useful might not be what you find useful, but it's that or reinventing the wheel everytime we just want to go *one* little step further than what we already have. Anyone working at HP on this list? Philippe :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Ness To: HPLX Mailing List ; Fryday Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application > Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents: > (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster; > (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least > relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly > (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment manager' > is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_ different than my > notion of `better', so that even if you were to succeed > wrt the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway. > The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to > invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and > there are better and better alternatives. And there are more people > wedded to particular representations (witness the Palm Pilot) that > you won't be able to satisy anyway. No matter where your > cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative technology is, I would > argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that crossover every > day. > > I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III. > I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to > my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because > my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's > `phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my > cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment > manager' will probably decline as well. > > IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium > into the 200---a nice fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to > failure. > > Fryday wrote: > > > > Has anyone ever tried to get the source code for the original HP EXM > > applications in order to improve on them. There might obviously be copyright > > issues, but who knows, maybe HP would be ready to let a limited number of > > people make the "improvements" and rule their approval on them... > > > > Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that > > would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to > > the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it > > anymore, what would be the harm? > > > > What am I not seeing here? > > > > Philippe :) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:38:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: > how and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list Here is the second part of my primer on filters: MFilters ======== Now MFilters are a whole different animal. Don't be confused by the similar names and MFilter is probably not the greatest name for MFilters, but it is the best we could come up with. MFilters are used to modify how you see a message on the screen while reading it. Since every Internet message always has a giant group of header lines, quotations and tag lines, MFilters are a way of hiding the stuff you don't care about and highlighting the header stuff you find important. MFilters have nothing to do with where a message is downloaded or anything like what Filters do. The MFilter stuff is always global in nature and will apply to any message you are looking at no matter if it is in a folder, inbox, outbox or newsgroup. There are five kinds of MFiler specifications. Three of these apply to header lines: one to indicate that a specific header line should be displayed, one to say a specific header line should not be displayed, and one to say that a specific header line should be displayed in bold type. The other two apply to the body of the message and can hide certain lines from being displayed: one to notice when a message quotes another message, and the other one to eliminate trailing lines of the message such as signatures. These specs are entered in a very similar way as Filter specs by using the SETUP program and the Ext function key and then choosing Mfilter. The answer to the first prompt is the string to try to match. The answer to the second prompt is either a plus sign ("+") to mean to show that header line, a minus sign ("-") to mean to hide that header line, an "h" to have that header line highlighted, a "q" to indicate that is the a quoted message line, and an "e" to indicate that this line and all lines below it are to be hidden. There is also two special strings you can use to the left of the equals sign (the answer to the first prompt). The asterix ("*") will match any string and the "?" will match any single character. These work like they do at the DOS command line. You can turn on and off the effects of MFilters. MFilters for headers apply when you have the option set in the Post message viewer to hide headers. This option is toggled with Menu View allHeaders (or simply Alt-H) while at the message view screen. When the diamond is on next to the all Headers flag, then all of the message's Internet headers will be displayed no matter what. But the MFilter spec for which ones are to be highlighted will still apply. When the diamond is not there by the all Headers menu item, then the MFilter plus and minus specs will apply and only the header lines you want to see will be shown. It works similarly for the quotations. Use Menu View hide Quoted to toggle the hiding of the quotations in a message. When the diamond is there, then the =q MFilter will apply and when there is no diamond, then quotations will display in full. The best way to show what MFilters look like is with an example from my POST.CFG file: ÝMFILTER¨ ; Treat lines starting with '>' and 'GZ>', 'TH>' etc. as quotations >=q ??>=q ; Always display header lines like these Date:=+ Subject:=+ From:=+ To:=+ Cc:=+ Reply-To:=+ Bcc:=+ X-Mailer:=+ ; but don't display any other header lines *=- ; highlight (boldface) these header lines for emphasis Subject=h From=h To=h ; filter the tag lines of messages from the HPLX-L mailing list ***DO NOT=e Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:38:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Randle wrote: > how and why you might set up a folder and filter to handle the HPLX list I have broken my answer into two messages because of the line limit on this list. Here is a primer I have written about filters: Filters ======= Use the SETUP program to help you. You already know how to make a new folder. In SETUP, use F8 (for Externals) and then F for Filters to enter filter specs into the ÝFilters¨ section of the POST.CFG. The first prompt asks you for the data that goes to the left of the equals sign and that is the string to match. The second prompt is for the thing to the right of the equals sign and this is the name of the folder where messages with a header containing the string will be stored. The stuff you enter into SETUP above will go into a global filters section called ÝFilters¨ and will apply to all of you Email inboxes. This should be fine for most cases because it won't hurt to try to filter messages that will not fit the criteria for re-routing to a folder. So, in order to filter HPLX-List messages into a folder, enter the filter spec as: First prompt = hplx-l@ Second prompt = ListHP to have SETUP make an entry in POST.CFG like this: ÝFilters¨ hplx-l@=ListHP which will cause any message downloaded toward any inbox that has the string "hplx-l@" in the header to go into a folder called ListHP instead of that inbox. Of course, you can have a different name for the folder - I happen to call mine ListHP. And you have to already have the folder set up before trying to download with the filter. That should be all you need. Personally, I have a slightly more complicated arrangement that I will describe. But novices should skip right to the MFilter stuff below because the following advanced Filter stuff requires manually editing the POST.CFG file. Enter at your own risk! Filters in the ÝFilters¨ section are global and apply to all mailboxes. I wanted to have this filter apply to only one of my inboxes (the one for Mail) and not to the other mailboxes. So, to do this required I add some extra stuff in my POST.CFG like this: I have a folder called ListHP. This is nothing special. ÝFOLDERS¨ ListHP=F In the section for my Email, I have a specification to tell it to process incoming mail though a filter called ListFilter. This line is added to the ÝMail¨ section or the section for whichever mailbox you want this specific filter to apply to. ÝMail¨ Filter=ListFilter And I have a new section I added somewhere else that describes what that filter is ÝListFilter¨ hplx-l@=ListHP So, all of this means that when a message is downloaded toward this specific inbox, it will be filtered by this specific filter. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:41:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook. > Would anyone use this? I think being able to go both ways will be very useful to those who need the lx-outlook linking. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:45:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I think being able to go both ways will be very useful to those who need > the lx-outlook linking. I 2nd that! Cheers, Mack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:50:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My remarks are laced in below... > -----Original Message----- > From: David Ness ÝSMTP:DNess@HOME.COM¨ > > Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents: > (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster; > No, yes, and yes. (sounds like that guy from Vicar of Dibley :) The new stuff is not getting better. I compared my HP200 to the HP "Jornada" yesterday, the 200LX has better construction. The keys feel better, and are easier to press without pressing an adjacent key. The OS aspect is just not getting into this discussion. Cheaper, yes but it has to because the changes are coming faster now days and things get obsolete sooner. Faster? True, but if the applications hog up all the improvements in speed, the user won't experience the increase in speed. > (2) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least > relatively, and perhaps absolutely; and most importantly > This would be important if you were trying to impress someone with your palmtop, but for those of us who rely on our palmtops to make life easier and more productive (both professionally and personally), the number of people using the same product is not very important. Sure, the more users of something, the more fresh input, but just because it's the thing all the cool kids want does not make it a better thing. > (3) your notion of `a better filer' , `a better appointment manager' is almost surely (and perhaps sadly) _quite_ different than my notion of `better', so that even if you were to succeed > with the two above, you'd fail at this point anyway. > Point three is why HPLX-L exists. It's here that improvements can be discussed to find out if they are "good" or "bad" improvements. Follow the threads about improving the email packages that have been around lately and you will see HPLX-L solving problem number (3). In my opinion, a lot of the "improvements" that found themselves into Windows CE are just not improvements... the reason CE is such a mess? It was designed in a vacuum, Microsoft "specified" CE instead of discussing it with it's customers before publishing it as "the standard". > The combination makes this an increasingly unproductive place to > invest time and energy: there are less and less people interested and > there are better and better alternatives. > I would like to avoid the standard discussion on this topic, but I am having trouble finding better alternatives to my 200LX. > And there are more people wedded to particular representations > (witness the Palm Pilot) that you won't be able to satisy anyway. > No matter where your cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative > technology is, I would argue that _almost_ everyone is getting > closer to that crossover every day. > Currently, there is no crossover alternative to the HP200LX. No other product can run specialty commercial applications required by my job. Yes, I could use a laptop, but that is not the point. > I thought, incorrectly, that my cross-over came with the Palm III. > I used it for a few weeks, then gave it to a friend and returned to > my 200. However, now I notice that I use the 200 less and less because > my cel-phone has gotten better, so I no longer need the 200's > `phone' manager. I anticipate getting good calendar support in my > cel phone RSN, and when (if?) that happens my use of `appointment > manager' will probably decline as well. > I think you will find that your cell phone will not last as long as your 200lx. Several things cause cell phones to become obsolete faster than a computing product, not the least of which, lack of continuing support from the phone vendor. I bet you can't find _any_ 5 year old cell phones that can be (1) repaired, (2) upgraded, (3) programmed to an new OS (like from CDMA to GSM), or (4) sold for between 25% and 50% of the original asking price. (cell phones have no value) > IMO, the idea of `better' 200lx applications is---like putting a pentium > into the 200---a nice fleeting thought that, in truth, is doomed to > failure. > A Pentium in a palmtop would be a great improvement as long as that modification adhered to the constraints we currently place on our palmtops. (battery life, what have you) A faster processor in a CE device does not seem to make a difference, and a faster processor in a cell phone would have no reason. I hope you don't see any of what I said here as an attempt to start a war, I just felt it necessary to respond to the defeatist remarks I felt you were making. Up-lift! Always put positive input in, whenever possible! :) Phil ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:50:08 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > My thoughts are that we could have the Palmtop.com server echo all mail >to our normal email accounts for home access and then access the Palmtop >server only when we're on the road. If I would use Palmtop.com, then only because I can use the built-in cc:Mail. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:53:23 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Receive Websites via Mail - Part 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit send your request to w3mail@gmd.de w3mail - A Web Access by E-mail HELP-file Via w3mail (Version 2.2) you can fetch multimedia-documents from theWorld Wide Web per email. Edit an email addressed to w3mail@gmd.de with any number of requests for aWorld-Wide-Web document or for help. You can fetch Web-pages as HTML source-code, as plain text, as formatted plain text including all hyperlink references to other Web sources, as postscriptfile, as compressed or uuencoded file. You can also fetch a HTML-file with all inline-images as attachments of a MIME-mail with Content-Type: multipart/mixed. Moreover you can get a HTML-file and all HTML-files that are referenced by hyperlinks. Then w3mail sends a MIME-mail with Content-Type: multipart/mixed to you. W3Gate processes URL with protocols http, (anonymous) ftp, wais and gopher. Currently w3mail supports HTML2.0, but enhancements will be implemented soon to provide new HTML features. The subject of the email can be omitted. The usage of a mail-command is: get Ý-t | -u | -a Ý -c columns¨¨ Ý-img¨ Ý-ps¨ Ý-l¨ Ý-uu¨ Ý-z¨ Ý-s size¨ URL or help The commands are case insensitive. If the body contains more than one get-command w3mail processes each command and will send you the resultin a separate email. Only one command per line is permitted. The first word in each line must be a key-word (get or help)! You can modify the HTML-document you want to get with options in theoptions- part of the mail-comand: ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:53:45 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Receive Websites via Mail - Part 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OPTIONS : -t : The HTML-file is send without HTML-tags (as formatted plain text). -u : The HTML-document is send to you as formatted plain text preserving all URLs occuring in anchor-links within that document. The URLs are relative to the HTML-document. -a : The same as -u but the URLs mentioned in links as absolute URLs. -c columns : After columns characters a line-feed character is inserted into the plain-text of the HTML-file/text-file. If you can only receive mails with a limited number of columns this option may be useful. If 'columns' is less than 40 it is set to 40. If 'columns' is greater or equal 40 and smaller than 255 or equal 255 it is set to this value, if it is larger than 255 it is set to 255. This option can only be used in combination with the -t -u -a options! -ps : The HTML-file/text-file is converted into postcript-format. -uu : The file you specified is coded with uuencode before mailing it to you to make mail the data correctly. -z : the file will be compressed with UNIX-gzip -img : all inlined-images, the background-image - if present - will be sent together with the hypertext-file in a MIME mail with Content- Type multipart/mixed. Thus if you have a MIME-capable User Agent you can watch the pictures of the Web-page -l: all HTML-files referenced by the orederd HTML-file are fetched, too. As result a MIME mail with Content-Type: multipart/mixed containing all Web-pages is sent to you. -s size: by this option you fix the maximal size of the file sent by E-mail to size ( 0 < size < 100000) Bytes. Currently w3mail gets only files smaller 2 MB. If a file is larger than 100 K it is splitted into smaller parts, which is necessary for a fastemail- transport. The partial emails have a sequence number in theSubject-field, so you can put the file together at your site. Binary-fileslarger than 100 K (e.g. zip-archives , exe-files) will be splitted too.To concatenate these partial mails uudecode each mail (the mail-header will be stripped off automatically). You get binary-files with sequence numbers.Then append them with cat file1 file2 ... filen > total_file on UNIX-platforms or copy Ý/a | /b¨ file1 + file2 + ... + filen somefile for MS-DOS-users Some mail-bodies for example : body1 : get -z -uu http://www.es.net/pub/rfcs/rfc1738.txt body2 : get -t -c 132 http://www.es.net/html-stuff/rfcs.html get -img http://www.gmd.de/ get -l http://www.gmd.de/ body3 : get gopher://gopher.es.net/77/.waisindex/rfcs?MIME get -s 16000 ftp://ftp.gmd.de/misc/computersongs-1.4.Z Long URLs can be broken up and continued in the next line. You must append a backslash (\) to the partial URL to indicate that it is continued in the next line. Multiple breaks of URLs are also possible. example: get http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=aq&what=\ web&fmt=.&q=Universitaet+and+Bonn+and+Informatik+and+Netzwerke&\ r=&d0=&d1= If you append a signature to your mails propose a '-- ' (two minus and one blank) to it in a separate line to indicate that a signature follows. Redirected URLs will be fetched also from the new location. If the email contains incorrect commands w3mail will send an error-mail with a hint to the wrong parts of the commands. When w3mail can't access a document (e.g. server-time-out, too much traffic, etc) you will get an error-message. In this case try again later. Enjoy! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: A Call for Help: JKIT fonts. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I give up on finding the below listed fonts so if anybody has the JKIT can you please send me a copy of these fonts: lxzn16x.fnt lxhn16x.fnt Calling upon The SUPER Team far: Jorgen and Toshiki can you help me? Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:56:18 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: Convert Notes to FFDB format? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii I just tried Brian's FFDB and really like it. Has anyone come up with a Macro or something else to convert a Notes file into FFDB format? Thanks. Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:19:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much = > memory for System Manager (to run more apps). > The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else? Have you set the feature in Buddy to NOT load the World Time map overlay? If you disbale this, that will make Buddy about 10K smaller. Go into the Setup application with Ctrl-Filer. Then to the System settings with F5, then to the Advanced settings with F8. You will need to close all other application first so you can change the Clipboard and Statis memory settings. The clipboard RAM is set aside all the time, so if you make that lower, it iwll give more RAM to the other SysMgr apps. The Static memory setting is a little more mysterious, but I have mine set to only 4K and that works perfectly. I have heard that it is really only Quicken and the FASTDB.TSR programs that use the Static memory. If you launch a application or DOS program from AppMgr, keep in mind that the AppMgr app stays in RAM taking up 17K. So, if you launch the built in apps from their hot keys, this will save some memory. Launch a DOS prompt with Ctrl-Lotus. Unfortunately, SysMgr cannout use EMM. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:20:47 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application > Am I dreaming here? I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that > would be nice, wouldn't it? Of course, if HP refuses to sell any rights to > the source code, there might be a problem, but if they are not selling it > anymore, what would be the harm? > > What am I not seeing here? I think you are seeing quite clearly. The problem would be getting the source code from HP. It is still a strong selling platform and they may not want to release it. It is an excellant idea though. The PIM part could use some improvement like a built-in dialer in the phonebook. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:28:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: news.hplx.net In-Reply-To: <028601be919c$d7aff030$9765140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote: > Is there a registration process to get access to news.hplx.net? > Doesn't seem like it's possible to just conenct to it without > authentication... Go to http://news.hplx.net or http://www.hplx.net/news/ and register. It's authenticating to avoid potential abuse... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:02:14 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? In-Reply-To: <199904281244.HAA09469@ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:44:03 -0500 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain > > URL and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? > > Something that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I > > visit everyday to get some information and was thinking that it would be > > nice if there was something available on the internet that could save me > > the time and hassle of doing this manually. > > You could probably write a shell script to do this for you on you shell > account. Problem might be scheduling it to run. Many ISPs, mine > included, have completely crippled the system scheduler for normal users. > They have always disabled the AT command, but until about a year ago you What is an AT command? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:25:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Personal Food Assistant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> The company sold an advanced version which, I believe, included a larger database. I don't know if they are still selling it or in business. You can try the contact in the packaging. Sorry, I can't be more helpful. Hal from Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:37:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Maximum Mem in System Manager Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Stan! So, is there a way to load some of the TSR in high memory? Philippe :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Dobrowski To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:19 PM Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager > Fryday wrote: > > > I would like to know what is people's experience trying to get as much = > > memory for System Manager (to run more apps). > > The question is, how do I get more? EMM? Anything else? > > Have you set the feature in Buddy to NOT load the World Time > map overlay? If you disbale this, that will make Buddy about > 10K smaller. > > Go into the Setup application with Ctrl-Filer. Then to the > System settings with F5, then to the Advanced settings with > F8. You will need to close all other application first so you > can change the Clipboard and Statis memory settings. The > clipboard RAM is set aside all the time, so if you make that > lower, it iwll give more RAM to the other SysMgr apps. The > Static memory setting is a little more mysterious, but I have > mine set to only 4K and that works perfectly. I have heard > that it is really only Quicken and the FASTDB.TSR programs > that use the Static memory. > > If you launch a application or DOS program from AppMgr, keep > in mind that the AppMgr app stays in RAM taking up 17K. So, > if you launch the built in apps from their hot keys, this > will save some memory. Launch a DOS prompt with Ctrl-Lotus. > > Unfortunately, SysMgr cannout use EMM. > > > Stan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:35:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: HP EXM application Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> You are dreaming. Beside legal and bureaucratic difficulties, there are some serious logistical ones. There were several contract programmers who originally wrote system manager for Lotus and HP for the HP 95LX. I believe HP tried to clean up the code for the 100LX and 200LX although that still might have been contract work. I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!! Even if HP has it, I understand it is spaghetti code that is difficult to understand and modify. Hal at Thaddeus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:45:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: Andy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The AT command (at least in NT) allows you to schedule commands and programs to run `AT' a particular time... Andy wrote: > > > What is an AT command? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:52:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP EXM application Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ah, spaghetti code that's difficult to understand and modify! At last it becomes clear why our apps are small, quick and work the way you expect 'em to! Everything else we add to it is, as they say....just sauce. - Longden Hal Goldstein on 04/28/99 12:35:55 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Hal Goldstein To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: HP EXM application < I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!! Even if HP has it, I understand it is spaghetti code that is difficult to understand and modify. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:15:22 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re HP EXM application / suggestions (long post) Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I mean, a better filer, a better appointment app... that >would be nice, wouldn't it? There is no long way from the status quo to perfect. The filer doesn't need much improvement. The appointment app is already perfect. What would be a good improvement is something like the 123g stuff. I don't think that you have to reprogram the LX apps. A lot of people on the list dream about LX improvements, enhancing the hardware etc. I realized, that a lot of the power is NEVER used by many LX-user, when I saw how easy it was to connect via infra-red with my IBM ThinkPad 760ED. I wan't to get more out of the IR port in future. It will be a big step, to use for example a IR to Parallelport converter (I mean a IR receiver with a parallel port). On the Parallelport I can plug my external Hardpac Harddisk (with accu and 250MB), a ZIP-Drive, another PC via Linkcable, a printer etc. That would be a real improvement. Think about the printing. I think most of us don't print directly with the LX. There isn't a lot of serial printers out there. The use of IR is the easiest way to print (no cable, no special PCMCIA card). And I think the fastest too. To be able to print directly from the LX would improve my work, because I would do much more on the LX, if it could print. But until now, I don't have a IR-receiver like the redeye etc. and am not printing directly. I always have to transfer my work first to the desktop and print it from there. I had a flirt with a PCMCIA-Parallelport-Card. But it is definitely too expensive for me. So I said: "Hey look, you have a serial port, a PCMCIA slot and an IR port. Why do you need a parallel port?" The PCMCIA slot is of course already filled with my 32MB Viking CompactFlash card. A lot of people on this list spend a lot of time in dreaming about a wishlist of LX improvements. I see a realistic enhancement in using the already built-in hardware more completely. The super-site is a great help for those who wish to expand their knowledge about using the LX. I am allways learning a lot. Simple solutions -- like the 123g -- make some things on the LX really practical (I wouldn't use 123, if there were no 123g menu). At this point I will make a suggestion. Perhaps it is no news for the hackers on this list: If you open a GDB file with WordPerfect, it recognizes it as a "WordPerfect 5.0 secondary file". That means, the merging format of WordPerfect or let me say, the datafiles (if you merge datafiles with text- or formfiles). I remember the WordPerfect tool "notebook" that was a little free form database as the built-in LX-Database. The look and feel and the creation of the fields was the same. I think, the built-in database is WordPerfect! If you open a GDB, it is imported to WordPerfect with the official WordPerfect delimters (field tags etc.). Unfortunately, it had nothing to do with DataPerfect. This is another story. But this could open some possibilities for conversion solutions etc. (there exists a convert program of WordPerfect). This was a lot of thoughts. Tell me what you think about. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:31:22 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> What is an AT command? It is a command that you send to a modem, like ATDT (Attention: Dial with tone) or ATDP (attention: dial with pulse) etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:25:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jguenthe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: jguenthe Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nice tool, I had not thought about using OLE to access the Outlook data, but it obviously works well. I really like the mapping you put in but I wonder if you could make it so that one or more fields from outlook could be mapped ot the note field on the 200lx? My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place else to keep them in the phone book. This is a great beginning to the problem of Outlook <--> 200LX data exchange. Now if you can make it go the other way we would have a complete phone book solution and would only need the calendar / appointments / todo interchange. Thanks again for the great beginning to solving this problem. I think the biggest chalenge will be the calendar with repeating appointments / todo's. John Guenther ---------- From: Curtis CameronÝSMTP:curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET¨ Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 12:12 PM Subject: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Hi all, I've just posted the first pass of a converter which will convert Outlook Contacts to the PDB or GDB format for the 100/200LX. You can get it at my web page, http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html It uses OLE automation to pull data from Outlook (you must have Outlook to run it), and then commands Steve Roth's GDBDUMP and GDBLOAD program to get data into the LX format. Features (so far): * Individually select folders within Outlook's main Contacts folder for export. * Works with any PDB or GDB file. * Lets you map fields however you want between the two. * Multiple Outlook fields can be mapped into one HPLX field, so if the first one is an empty field, it will use the data from another field. This is a Visual Basic 5 program, and requires you have the VB5 runtime files installed (there is a pointer to this on the above web page). Please let me know if this is useful. One thing I need to know - I think Outlook installs the file Msoutl85.olb. If you have Outlook and don't have it, please let me know because I'll have to include it in the distribution. Another feature I'm considering is converting from the LX to Outlook. Would anyone use this? -- Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:37:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: AT Command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually the 'at' command according to the man entry I just read on the Linux system from which I'm sending this note allows you to schedule a job to run at a specified time, just as Chris originally noted. Now, if I just knew how to write a script on my shell account I would be set. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:44:32 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Re HP EXM application / suggestions (long post) Comments: To: Stephan Goeldi > > Think about the printing. I think most of us don't print directly with the > LX. > There isn't a lot of serial printers out there. The use of IR is the easiest > way > to print (no cable, no special PCMCIA card). And I think the fastest too. I used to print using the IR to a HP 340 printer. I used the HP IR parallel port adapter on the printer. They don't recommend using it with any other printers but it may be worth a try since it is resonably priced 30$ and it works pretty well. The only thing is it is slow. It took about 1 to 2 minutes to print a page. Since I have switched to a parallel port card and it is many times faster. Prints a page in 15 to 30 seconds. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:18:58 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: New version of LXVWS running MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For the next couple of hours, I'll have the new version of the LXVWS web server running. This is a palmtop web server that's in alpha testing right now and can serve multiple virtual domains. Point your browser to: http://hp200.ipair.com:7070/ and http://www.ipair.com:7070/ for two different pages (we hope). This new version fixes a bug with file not found errors, I think. (Rod, feel free to correct me.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:16:08 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: PIM access on desktop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all There are a few LX webservers now and I was wondering if an LX could be accessed via the web into the actual PIM's? If this is possible a dedicated site could have say a GDB uploaded and converted inside an LX and sent back in the needed format. Reverse also is a possibility. Any comments? Expansions on this? Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:49:21 EDT Reply-To: Cavendishl@aol.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: DNess@home.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/28/1999 02:07:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DNess@HOME.COM writes: > No matter where your cross-over point from the 200Lx to alternative technology is, I would argue that _almost_ everyone is getting closer to that crossover every day. I guess I'm your _almost_. I haven't seen anything remotely tempting. In fact, the market is making it increasingly likely that nothing will replace the HP in the next 2 or 3 generations of development. I love the key board, have no interest in color, and haven't seen anything with a Bible program remotely competitive with the combo of HisWord and the On Line Bible. Times2Tech mods have given me room and speed to solve any problems that I have had. There are plenty of other reasons (the wealth of available software, it actually fits in any pocket, etc.) that I expect to stay with the HP200LX for a long time to come. Palolithically Yours, Lynn M. Cavendish (I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:23:40 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More than a little late in the day I know, but I had an idea for POST/LX which I don't think has been put forward before. Is there any chance of including an option to view messages *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents? Not only is reading stuff vertically more comfortable on the eyes because of the narrower width, you also have the added bonus of being able to hold the palmtop just like a book. Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it would add too many extra KB to the program size... and the small fact that probably nobody else wants such a feature! -Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:27:23 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: jeffj@SCOTT.NET In-Reply-To: <199904280421.XAA04323x@scott.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" This will probably be of absolutely *no* help to you, but maybe it will at least be encouragement... There is, out there somewhere, a Web page that, given a URL and an email address, will email the content of that URL to the given address. It's intended for people who need to get at information *now* but haven't access to a browser at the moment. The down sides:I don't believe you can set up timed/recurring delivery, and this was a year or so and I haven't a *clue* where that site is (if it even still exists). You might try writing to the Netmind folks. They have been pretty responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell. Good luck, Rick P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when you're ready. Hmm... presuming there's a browser like Lynx that will let you hand it a URL on the command line AND that caches. Oh well... maybe this will at least spark an idea. *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/27/99, at 11:18 PM, Jeff Johns wrote: >Does anyone know of a service that would automatically go to a certain URL >and then mail that page's contents to a certain email address? Something >that is kind of like Netminder? I have a certain page that I visit everyday >to get some information and was thinking that it would be nice if there was >something available on the internet that could save me the time and hassle >of doing this manually. > >Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:18:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling off a few HP related items. See below for details. HP 95lx 512k Model. ($70 + Shipping) Good condition, Connection Cable, DOS Connection Software, belt clip case, DOS+Lotus 1-2-3+ PIMs in ROM. (cosmetically very clean, weak latch spring) HP 1000cx 2mb Model ($200 + Shipping Each, BRAND NEW!) New in the box, HP 1000cx, 2mb RAM, DOS 5 & Laplink Remote in ROM, French localized version (some of the text above the keys is french, DOS etc. is all english). These are very similar to the 200lx, except the rom based PIM applications and Lotus 1-2-3 have been removed. I have 2 of these and can preload them with freeware apps from super if you wish. HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge), AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge), AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. Note: Both of the Omnibooks have had their batteries tested through hours of use, but I can't guarantee the life of an old battery. I originally wanted to get one of these for myself, and had a couple deals fall thru, then they all came in at once and I ended up with 4. Im keeping one (its a really nice unit), have sold one and the remaining two are described above. Items below arent HP, but may be of interest. Compaq 4/40cx Notebook & Docking Station ($350 + Shipping) 486 dx2/40, 20mb RAM, 340mb HD, approx 9" 640x480 TFT Color VGA display, Builtin Trackball, 2 PCMCIA card slots, Battery (holds a charge), AC Adapter, has Windows 95 installed. Includes docking station which adds 2 1/2 height Drive bays, Floppy Controller, SCSI controller, IDE Controller, 2 ISA expansion slots, charger for second battery, 10BaseT Ethernet, all plug-n-play under Win95. Includes Compaq Carry Case. Chaplet 486/25 Notebook ($150 + Shipping) 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480 Backlit Monochrome VGA display, Builtin Trackball, 1 PCMCIA Type II card slot. Battery (holds a charge, about 1hr life est.). AC Adapter. Has DOS 6.1, Windows 3.1, and Calmira Win95 look alike shell installed for evaluation only No disks or license included. Compaq SLT/286 Notebook ($70 + Shipping) 286/12, 640k RAM, 40mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480 paper white backlit VGA display. Brand New Battery (Paid $117 for it right before the machine was retired), has DOS 5 installed and boots to a DOS shell GUI. Add a XJack 28.8 Cellular ready modem to any of the above (except the 95lx) for $25. Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com. Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:41:41 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Greg Dwyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Greg Dwyer Subject: Windows Version of HP Calc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator? -- ,-._|\ Regards / Oz \ Greg Dwyer \_,--.x/ Warrandyte Vic.Australia 3113 v PGP location ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:46:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russell Hemery wrote: > > Hi all > > There are a few LX webservers now and I was wondering if an LX could be > accessed via the web into the actual PIM's? > > If this is possible a dedicated site could have say a GDB uploaded and > converted inside an LX and sent back in the needed format. Reverse also is a > possibility. > > Any comments? Expansions on this? > > Cheers > > Russell > What are you trying to do? `Uploaded and Converted' into what? What are you trying to do that CPACK doesn't do, and why is it relevant that the webserver _be_ an LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:45:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: JKIT fonts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Qman Here are the fonts. Enjoy Tony Guzewicz By the way, do you know where I can get the dsp1402a file in order to view Japanese web pages with HV? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:54:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Windows Version of HP Calc Comments: To: Greg Dwyer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Look in the SUPER site. Search for "hppim". - Longden Greg Dwyer on 04/28/99 04:41:41 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Greg Dwyer To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Windows Version of HP Calc Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:53:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: HP & Related Items for Sale, *** Omnibook Details MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Omnibook 300's This is a 386/20 subnotebook weighing approx 2.8lbs. Is powered by a NiMh battery (rated for 5hrs with a HD, 9hrs with a flash) and can also be powered by 4 AA batteries. DOS+Windows+Excel+Word+HP Pims+HP Calc+Laplink are all included in ROM and many of them execute in place so they don't use much RAM memory for operation making the 4mb seem like a whole lot more. Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:09:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain You can (and I do) add fields to the Phone Book Application. It's so easy it hurts... Open the phone.pdb file in the Database Application. The full set of modification tools will now work on your phone.pdb file. :) Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: jguenthe ÝSMTP:jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM¨ > > My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I > keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no > place > else to keep them in the phone book. > > John Guenther > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:09:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know where I can get this file in order to display Japanese web pages with HV? I have found the dis1402 version but it doesn't seem to work. TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:24:40 -0700 Reply-To: dr7zyq@nidlink.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david rogers Organization: is one cool old dude! Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will take the OB300 with the flash drive, if you still have it. If not, I will take the other, but prefer the flash drive. Thanks, David, WA7ZYQ Dan Ridenhour wrote: > > All, > > Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling off > a few HP related items. See below for details. > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com. > > Thanks, > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:14:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rich C. Johnson" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rich C. Johnson" Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: jguenthe@NAFIS.FP.TRW.COM John, >>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place else to keep them in the phone book. I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with the phonebook app. Voila! If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:43:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jguenthe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: jguenthe Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" In-Reply-To: <199904290016.UAA21695@gateway2.ey.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, so I never thought of modifying the Phone.pdb file to add a field for the email address, guess I thought you couldn't do that for some reason, don't know why I thought that but I just never thought of it. I made the change, took less than 5 minutes, exported the Outlook contacts to the phone book and it worked wonderfully!! Thanks for the tip. John Guenther > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich C. Johnson Ýmailto:Rich.Johnson@ey.com¨ > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:15 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU; jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com > Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter > > > John, > >>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I > keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there > is no place > else to keep them in the phone book. > > I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to > phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus > you can modify the database to your heart's content. > Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've > had this field in my > phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, > close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and > reopen with > the phonebook app. Voila! > > If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use. > > Rich > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:19:06 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce Francis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Francis Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application In-Reply-To: <328d2a38.2458ea71@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:49:21 EDT, Lynn M. Cavendish wrote: >There are plenty of other reasons (the wealth of available software, it >actually fits in any pocket, etc.) that I expect to stay with the HP200LX for >a long time to come. > >(I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.) "What he said" goes for me too. I could be proven wrong tomorrow, but I really suspect that this will be the pocket computer for me for the next 2 (few) generations of new pocket computers coming on the market. The size (what good is it if it's too big to fit in your pocket and you don't have it with you?), the keyboard, more _useful_ software than I can get installed ..... --- Bruce Francis BFrancis@pobox.com For PGP Public key: email with Subject "BFrancis Public Key" ________________________________________________________ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:14:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Wagstaff wrote: > Is there any chance of including an option to view messages > *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents? This once has been discussed during the beta test. If I recall correctly, we found that just for reading POST/LX message files, VR already can be used and for full integration (reading, replying etc), it would be quite inconvenient to always turn the machine. So it was not implemented. Did you try VR on a POST/LX message file. Maybe it does all you want. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:19:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Nickum, Roy H." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nickum, Roy H." Subject: HP100LX for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have a 2MB HP100LX in great condition (no cracks, latch problems, screen problems or even cosmetic damage) for sale including all the manuals. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:43:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , C Quick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: C Quick Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes - please send a copy = thanks in advance Fryday wrote: > I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really > easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes > by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and > earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money > to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook > since I've created it! > > Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it! > > Philippe :-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:05:32 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Vertical Display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290067237__" --__next_part__1290067237__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is there any chance of including an option to view messages > *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents? > Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it > would add too many extra KB to the program size... I'm glad that I have to disappoint you: Basically it would add only a few bytes, because this feature is available for all programs using the 'graphics write string' function of the built in INT5F graphics library. I'm really surprised, that only very few programmers use the power of this library, (including myself). One other feature are 'clip regions', which restrict output to a previously defined window. Using it, you may run several smaller 'virtual screens' within the 640x200 display. Could be a starting point for frames support in HV. To demonstrate Vertical display, I wrote a tiny TSR. After activation with Fn-V it outputs all text vertically. It works only in graphics mode. If you activate it while in a program, you have to press the zoom key to rebuild the screen. Fn-V toggles between horizontal and vertical display. Vertical output is not fast, but available for all 4 built in fonts. Please don't flame me for attaching the 700 bytes TSR. Stefan --__next_part__1290067237__ Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="vertical.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 6c0AdmVydGljYfUvAACcmgAAAAD7ULQR6HEAdBouOwYKAXUTtBDoYwAu9hYNATPALqANAegdAFjP nC6APg0BAHQMgPwPdQewAYvKuscAmgAAAADPLoA+DAEAdAHDYLvi/7mkBroyAAvAdQa7HgC5yADk YST+DALmYVHi/lkk/eZhUeL+WQPLSnXrYcNTUQa7QACOwyaLHhoAJjseHAB1B4D8EXXv6x4miw+A /BCLwXUUg8MCJjseggByBSaLHoAAJokeGgAHWVvDh9uH24fbkDPJu4AAig+D+QB1DejTAHID6YIA uuID6zjoxgByF0OKBwwgPHN0B+L1uoYD6yOANgwBAethQ4oHDCA8c3QLPHJ0F+LxuoYD6wgmgDYM AQHrBLQJzSG0TM0huvwDBrQ1sAnNIYzDB4zAO9h15R5SJsUWEAG0JbAJzSEmxRZPAbQlsF/NIVof JvcWAAG0Sc0hcsC68QPruwa0NbAJzSGJHhABjAYSAbQ1sF/NIYkeTwGMBlEBB7oOAbQlsAnNIbo5 AbQlsF/NIbrXArQJzSGhLACOwLRJzSH3FgABuh0AuAAxzSFg/PcWAAEz24zIQ47DO8P4dA2+AAGL /rkKAPOmdez59xYAAWHDDQraxMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTExMTE vw0Ks1ZlcnRpY2FsIFYxLjAgKGMpMTk5OSBTdGVmYW4gUGVpY2hsLCBIRLMNCrNUb2dnbGVzIEhv cml6b250YWwgQW5kIFZlcnRpY2FsIERpc3BsYXmzDQrAxMTExMTExMTExCBUb2dnbGUgS2V5OiBG biBWIMTExMTExMTExMTE2Q0KJFVzYWdlOiBWRVJUSUNBTCBbL1NdWy9SXQ0KL1MgICA9IFNvdW5k IHRvZ2dsZQ0KL1IgICA9IFJlbW92ZSBmcm9tIG1lbW9yeQ0KRm4gViA9IFRvZ2dsZSBLZXkkLi4u aXMgcmVzaWRlbnQkLi4ucmVtb3ZlZCQuLi5jYW5ub3QgcmVtb3ZlJC== --__next_part__1290067237__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 06:58:54 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: FLUFF: DUH! (Was: Anyone know of something like this?) In-Reply-To: <199904281927230950.0EB320A4@mail.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/28/99, at 7:29 PM, Rick Rae foolishly wrote in part: >There is, out there somewhere, a Web page that, given a URL and an email >address, will email the content of that URL to the given address. It's >intended for people who need to get at information *now* but haven't access >to a browser at the moment. I didn't realize how inane this was until it got posted to the list and I read it. If one can get to the emailer page, then obviously one can get to the page being mailed. I just thought I'd point out that little stupidity before someone else had a chance. So then I got to thinking, trying to remember how this thing worked and what it was for. I think the what-it-was-for is correct. My vague memory is that it was still a Web page, but that's just where I read about it. I believe, now that I've given the old neurons a chance to turn over a few times, that it's actually a server somewhere that you EMAIL with the URL you're interested in; it then retrieves the page in question and emails it back to you. Which is probably of less use to the original poster, sorry. Maybe a few searches on things like "Web page emailer" or suchlike will turn up something helpful. Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:52 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paal Rasmussen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paal Rasmussen Subject: The news of the demise of my LX is premature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently travelled with a PIM freak to Greece. (To a symposium where a McDonald's executive didn't show because they were advised Europe is at war!) He had a Palm V. We had occation to discuss some business opportunities, and I did some quick modelling in 1-2-3 on my bog standard LX. He was amused, but not particularly impressed. Then we discussed the elements of the business plan, and I dished out an outline in Memo. At that point he was admitting the clumsiness of the palm handwriting recognition system. When it became time to e-mail our proposal I connected to my ISP with my Nokia GSM and Nettamer (ok, ok! I know!) he got a worried frown amd when I proceeded to print out a neat presentation on my HP 340 via IR he fell silent. When we reached Copenhagen he was all over the airport electronics shops trying out Velo's HP 360's, Sharps and Psions. They didn't have any 200LX's so he climbed on board our connecting flight sulking. I believe the decline of the 200 will be due to HP's marketing policy rather than the product being overtaken by better designs. Happy LX'ing! Paul Rasmussen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:12:25 +0800 Reply-To: J H Chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: J H Chin Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Rich C. Johnson To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 9:01 AM Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter >I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus > you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my >phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with > the phonebook app. Voila! You can also add as many phone books as long as they have the .pdb extension, this allows you to classify them into different phone directories. Regards J H Chin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:45:33 -0700 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: bob1 Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's really > easy to use and incorporates a small macro to create new months as time goes > by. Basically, it let's you specify known repeating/new spendings and > earnings for the next few months in order to see if you'll have enough money > to get by until the end of each month. I haven't had to balance my checkbook > since I've created it! > > Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it! > > Philippe :-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Hello! Philippe yes I would like to try it out your cashflow spreadsheet. Thank You Bob Elliott Jr ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:26:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Fw: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Philippe, who wondered about rewriting the built in programs and aske= d >>What am I not seeing here? Did you ignore the fact that the code for the built in PIMS is in ROM? F= or me, the "better" code would have to be really "better" to devote disk spa= ce to it. Burning and replacing ROMS would be extremely expensive. = Did I miss your definition of "better"? .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:26:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Philippe, who asked, >>The question is, how do I get more (conventional memory)? EMM? Anything= else? All the tsrs and drivers that you use go into conventional memory. There = is no equivalent for loading them into "high" memory on an 80186 machine. If= you need to free up memory for a DOS program in session 1 of SC, you migh= t try MAXDOS. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:04:52 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Windows Version of HP Calc Comments: To: Greg Dwyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Is there a Windows program that simulates the HP calculator? > ,-._|\ Regards >/ Oz \ Greg Dwyer >\_,--.x/ Warrandyte Vic.Australia 3113 > v PGP location Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion, would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you? It emulates the HPLX calculator fairly well. Regards......Liam | Engineering & Industrial Projects | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9721 8506 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au | web : www.angelfire.com/biz2/EandIP ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 00:00:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, your opinions are a very useful (IMO) contribution to discussion, which I am happy to continue. I second, BTW, your notion that this isn't a `fight'. I like, and continue to use, my 200Lx. However, with my purchase of a Libretto and a cel phone my use _has_ dropped dramatically, and the direction of use remains clear. I'll cut remarks (both mine and yours) where I have nothing to add to the discussion. I hope I don't screw up the attributions, but you know how hard that is... Phil Drummond (PD) wrote in response to my (DN) earlier note: > > > (DN) ... new hardware is better, cheaper, faster ... > > (PD) The new stuff is not getting better. > Semantics. I'd say, unequivocally, that the new hardware is better, screens are better, passable mice are available, ..., but I agree that most (all?) packages I have seen so far are not as good. Nevertheless, I do still feel you are `swimming upstream' wrt the 200. Eventually someone will get the packaging right. > > (DN) Population of 200Lx users is almost surely shrinking---at least > relatively, and perhaps absolutely; > > (PD) This would be important if you were trying to impress someone > with your palmtop, but for those of us who rely on our palmtops > to make life easier and more productive (both professionally and > personally), the number of people using the same product is not > very important. > But this seems to me to completely miss the point. The more popular a platform is, the more stuff that will be developed for it. The less popular a platform is, the less that will be developed. Again, you may find that some are still happy to `volunteer' their time to a shrinking marketplace, but if you want lots of `rich' development that you will be able to take advantage of, look for expanding marketplaces. > (DN) ... your `better' differs from my `better' > (PD) Point three is why HPLX-L exists. It's here that improvements > can be discussed to find out if they are "good" or "bad" > improvements. Follow the threads about improving the email > packages that have been around lately and you will see HPLX-L > solving problem number (3). > We read history differently. I have read both HPLX for a good while and HPHAND for a number of years. I have seen only a few useful contributions grow out of `communal sense'. The best stuff seems to me to have principally built by a _very_ small number of individuals (often only one). I have also seen many `Second Systems' (i.e. those that came out of major revisions of a successful system) be dismal failures: The second round of CPM, the second round of CTSS at MIT, ... (the list goes on forever) all introduced changes that pleased some, but ended up by disappointing more and ultimately led to failure. One man's improvements proved to be another's obstacle. > (PD) I would like to avoid the standard discussion on this topic, but > I am having trouble finding better alternatives to my 200LX. So am I. That's why I still use it. > (PD) Currently, there is no crossover alternative to the HP200LX. No > other product can run specialty commercial applications required > by my job. Yes, I could use a laptop, but that is not the point. I'm afraid I don't know, then, what `the point' is. My Libretto took up a huge part of what I used to do with my 200. And it does that part _enormously_ better. Of course it is _not_ better at everything (instant on, battery life, fitting in an inside pocket). But it has _very much_ reduced my 200 use, and---as I write more and more code that uses GUIs---will probably continue to do this more and more. > (DN) ... points about cel-phone taking over 200 tasks... > (PD) I think you will find that your cell phone will not last as long > as your 200lx. Several things cause cell phones to become > obsolete faster than a computing product, ... What you say is almost surely true. But I think it is irrelevant. I _have_ to have a cel phone, and take what comes down that pike. It is a given. Whether it obsoletes faster has no effect on me. Some of the changes in cels over the past 5 years have been to add more and more function of the PDA. I expect that to continue, thus diminishing the role of the `stand-alone' PDA. I already get tidy little text messages on my cel-phone screen mailed from my Net-based friends. No modem, no `login', no ISP, delivered anywhere, ... For me this was formerly an elaborate computer based function, and now I no longer need the computer for it at all. I expect more and more of that. > (PD) I hope you don't see any of what I said here as an attempt to > start a war, I just felt it necessary to respond to the defeatist > remarks I felt you were making. Up-lift! Always put positive input > in, whenever possible! :) I don't feel at all that your temperate and sensible remarks were an attempt to `start a war'. In return, I hope you understand that it is not `defeatist' to feel that some particular computational ground that was in the past very fruitful is now past its `prime' and that investment in, and cultivation of, new ground is more productive. Philippe asked (in the message that I was originally responding to) `What am I not seeing here?'. My response essentially was that the HP200 _was_ a very fertile world, and lots of good stuff was developed for, and around it. But so _were_ the IBM650, Dec-Vax, Z80, and many other computational environments. and I'd make the same argument about them as I would about investing new time and energy trying to recover old code for a machine well past its `prime'. Of course, Hal's observations (that the probability of getting any access to the code is somewhere between miniscule and zero) probably makes all of this discussion moot. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:44:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? Hi Phil, >The Palmtop.com service has a web page. http://www.palmtop.com >If you look there, all the questions you are asking are answered there. The >page is small and palmtop "friendly". > >Short answer, the basic service is "free" but any additional services (mail >forwarding, additional addresses, etc.) cost money. The total package, less >domain registration service is $60US. Thanks for the clarification, Phil. Am I right in assuming that one is not required to pay for domain registration service to use the additional services? Your frame of reference, experience and comments, as a current user of Palmtop.com services, are valuable to us all. I guess exploring the "ESP Networks" link unnecessarily complicated my impression of the palmtop.com service pricing structure with the ESP Network's pricing structure for business accounts. It's nice to know that palmtop users are given a special break in that they can use the basic service free of charge. It's even better that, according to your post, palmtop users are offered additional support options for only a one-time flat registration fee and are not charged additional monthly charges like those mentioned in ESP Network's business services pricing structure. So far, Palmtop.com sounds like a winner to me. I'm going to put aside my proposed Free Juno Email project and focus on this rather attractive alternative, first. I'll check out the free basic service for myself. If I find that the service works as well as advertised and CC:Mail's features and interface meet my needs and liking, then it would be my impression that a one-time registration fee for unlimited access to the specialized services they offer would be reasonable. I that case, there would be no point in pursuing the Free Juno email project any further, since it's probable that the Juno software, run on top of windows 3.0 on the HP200LX, would at least be painfully slow. I'll keep everyone posted. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 22:48:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Web pages by email Hi Jeff, >Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something that >will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know >there are web based services that will send out weather and news and >sports scores and was just wondering if anyone knew of a service that >would allow you to specify a certain URL to be mailed, I don't even care >if it had an advertisement attached. I've read about and used email servers in the distant past that took orders to retrieve Web pages, but they had to be queried via a formatted email message each and every time that a web page was wanted. Also, my experience in dealing with those email servers was that they were generally so busy that it took several days to get the pages that were ordered. I suggest that a much more timely way to accomplish what you want is to use scheduler and a web access application that supports macros to retrieve those pages for you directly into your HP200LX on a regular schedule for later viewing. However, if you are still interested in using an email web server, I'd be happy to look up email address(es) of such server(s) in a book I purchased many years ago on that subject called, "The Internet by Email" by Clay Shirky. I don't know if the referenced servers are still active, but you never know. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:33:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CPACK works fine on .GDB as far as I can see. Why do you think that the `Data Base' function in CPACK is anything other than the same as on the 200 itself? (I've tried it and it seems to work fine) This is so straightforward and simple that I must miss what you are trying to do. Perhaps you will try again... Russell Hemery wrote: > > >What are you trying to do? `Uploaded and Converted' into what? > >What are you trying to do that CPACK doesn't do, and why is it > >relevant that the webserver _be_ an LX? > > Hi David > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB. > Easiest answer for those of us without ethernet cards to connect to a LX > speedily would be to use a "remote" LX to access DB files and view them isn > say HTML or some DB format on desktop etc. > > Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:30:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nancyb@BEST.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nancy A. Barker" Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet >I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's >Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it! I would love to give it a try! Thanks! n. Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:13:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Loran Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Loran Brooks Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great suggestion below! I didn't know that I could change the fields in my phone book and still continue to use the phone book utility. How will modifying the fields affect the Outlook conversion routine that Curtis is developing? L. Brooks "Rich C. Johnson" wrote: > > John, > >>My reason may seem somewhat silly, but I > keep email addresses in the note field on the 200lx since there is no place > else to keep them in the phone book. > > I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the database app. Then using the menus > you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can add a new field for email addresses. I've had this field in my > phone.pdb file for years. When you are finished customizing it, close the file and rename it back to the original phone.pdb and reopen with > the phonebook app. Voila! > > If you have problems I could send you the basic template I use. > > Rich > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 23:02:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ronburnett@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Burnett Subject: Trans PC Card Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just bought a Trans Digital parallel port card. I want to use the card to attach my parallel port Zip drive. The manual (p. 15) says that I need, among others, the following files, to be copied from the Iomega Zip install disk: aspippm1.sys nibble.ilm The above 2 files are not on the floppy or the Tools zipdisk. My Zip drive is several years old. I tried the iomega.com, and downloaded a file, but these were not included. Otherewise, the site doesn't appear very helpful. Can you tell me how to get these files, or do you have the email address for Iomega tech support? Or Trans Digital tech support? The tech support person at Thaddeus seemed pretty clueless, and I had to leave a phone message with Trans Digital. Thanks. Ron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:50:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain what are the dimensions of the omnibook > ---------- > From: Dan RidenhourÝSMTP:driden@STLNET.COM¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List;Dan Ridenhour > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:18 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! > > All, > > Once again, its time to make a bit of room in my office, and Im selling > off > a few HP related items. See below for details. > > HP 95lx 512k Model. ($70 + Shipping) > Good condition, Connection Cable, DOS Connection Software, belt clip > case, DOS+Lotus 1-2-3+ PIMs in ROM. (cosmetically very clean, weak > latch spring) > > HP 1000cx 2mb Model ($200 + Shipping Each, BRAND NEW!) > New in the box, HP 1000cx, 2mb RAM, DOS 5 & Laplink Remote in ROM, > French localized version (some of the text above the keys is french, DOS > etc. is all english). These are very similar to the 200lx, except the > rom > based PIM applications and Lotus 1-2-3 have been removed. I have 2 of > these and can preload them with freeware apps from super if you wish. > > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > Note: Both of the Omnibooks have had their batteries tested through hours > of use, but I can't guarantee the life of an old battery. I originally > wanted to get > one of these for myself, and had a couple deals fall thru, then they all > came in > at once and I ended up with 4. Im keeping one (its a really nice unit), > have sold > one and the remaining two are described above. Items below arent HP, but > may be of interest. > > Compaq 4/40cx Notebook & Docking Station ($350 + Shipping) > 486 dx2/40, 20mb RAM, 340mb HD, approx 9" 640x480 TFT Color VGA > display, Builtin Trackball, 2 PCMCIA card slots, Battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, has Windows 95 installed. Includes docking station which adds > 2 1/2 height Drive bays, Floppy Controller, SCSI controller, IDE > Controller, > 2 ISA expansion slots, charger for second battery, 10BaseT Ethernet, all > plug-n-play under Win95. Includes Compaq Carry Case. > > Chaplet 486/25 Notebook ($150 + Shipping) > 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480 > Backlit Monochrome VGA display, Builtin Trackball, 1 PCMCIA Type II card > slot. Battery (holds a charge, about 1hr life est.). AC Adapter. Has DOS > 6.1, > Windows 3.1, and Calmira Win95 look alike shell installed for evaluation > only > No disks or license included. > > Compaq SLT/286 Notebook ($70 + Shipping) > 286/12, 640k RAM, 40mb HD, Serial, Parallel, External VGA Port, 640x480 > paper white backlit VGA display. Brand New Battery (Paid $117 for it > right > before the machine was retired), has DOS 5 installed and boots to a DOS > shell > GUI. > > Add a XJack 28.8 Cellular ready modem to any of the above (except > the 95lx) for $25. > > Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com. > > Thanks, > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:59:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! Comments: To: driden@STLNET.COM In-Reply-To: <008001be91cd$92aeb940$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net> from Dan Ridenhour at "Apr 28, 99 06:18:21 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've forwarded your message to my friend who is interested on one of the 1000CX's. His name is Greg Davlin and he'll send you a message soon. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:47:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kiyoshi Akima Subject: Turbo C++ 3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was just in a store today and saw a big box called the Borland Turbo C++ Suite for US $60. One of the things in the box is Turbo C++ 3.0. The other stuff requires Windows 3.1 or better, and is of no further interest here. The box simply states that it runs under DOS. When I asked whether it would run on the 200LX, the clerk at the store simply said that he didn't think there would be any problem on any system with a 486 or better. The kid is probably too young to remember the original IBM PC or the AT, probably thinking that computers began with the 386/486. So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX? I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us? Kiyoshi Akima kakima@ix.netcom.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 01:37:01 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP EXM application Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I heard a rumor that has some chance of being true, that in the move to > Singapore from Corvallis the code got lost!!! How convenient, er, inconvenient, er, convenient .... what do I mean? (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 21:14:16 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: Free Juno email & MS Win 3.0 Without Mouse In-Reply-To: <19990426.225717.3566.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Reference the comment about trying to use MS Win 3.0 without a mouse. I recall seeing a commercial program called NoMouse. Think I also saw some shareware and freeware versions. Don't know how well they would work on the HP200LX. ======================================== At 09:50 PM 4/26/99 -0400, John J Vander Stel wrote: > >I'll be watching my email for any ideas anyone may have that might even >remotely help with this free email project. (installing Windows 3.0, >using it without a mouse, getting around the Juno ads, etc...) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:39:28 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hirohiko Kashiwagi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hirohiko Kashiwagi Subject: Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii aguze118 wrote : >Does anyone know where I can get this file in order to display Japanese web >pages with HV? I have found the dis1402 version but it doesn't seem to work. >TIA Dis1402 can't cope with 11 dot font. We need dsp14a (dsp1402a.lzh) to cope with 11 dot font. It is found at : http://www.vector.co.jp/soft/dos/util/se013780.html ---- Hirohiko KASHIWAGI (Japan) hirohiko@a2.mbn.or.jp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 18:50:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard A. Smith / Patti Smith" Organization: Orion Enterprises Subject: 200LX and MS Networking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI and Question: When Win95 first came out, I had another machine on my desk at work with Win 3.11 for Workgroups. Both were on a Netware 4.11 server. By installing the CPack and MS Windows Networking, I could directly access the drives on the HP 200LX as network drives -- very slick! Now, I have a 486 laptop with a Xircom PCMCIA NIC and a small WIN 95 (3 machines) network at home. On the laptop, I can load LLRA before Win95 and connect to all of the drives on the palmtop, but I can only share the flashcard (drive A: on the palmtop). Therefore, over the network, I can only acces the flashcard drive. Any ideas on how to make it so I can access all of the palmtop's drives over my Win95 network? (Aside from getting another NIC for the palmtop, etc.) Thanks, Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:36:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter Comments: To: "Rich C. Johnson" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >I think I can help you with this. Simply rename >your phone.pdb to phone.gdb and open it with the >database app. Then using the menus >you can modify the database to your heart's content The caveat to this may be that the modified phone database is no longer correctly handled by some programs (I think CPACK was one) when the fields are changed. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Internal stack overflow, System halted Hi All, Since I received my 32MB X2 HP200LX, I hadn't used filer because I felt more at home at the DOS prompt. I hadn't had any problems with my HP200LX at all. Well, without any other application running at all, today I opened filer, just to see what it looked like. When I pressed "menu" and "Q" to exit filer, I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" error message. A hard reboot was required to recover from this error. After the hard reboot, I went through the above process again and got the same error message all over again. Are the default "buffers=20" and "files=30" lines adequate in my config.sys file or should they be set to different values? Any other ideas about what might be causing this error? BTW, I sure am glad that some here have mentioned on this list that when a hard reboot is initialized, one should enter "n" and "enter" to the question posed. Naturally, my double speed HP200LX scrambles that prompt. I could have lost the contents of my C: drive, due to simple ignorance! Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:51:37 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Toshiki Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Toshiki Subject: Re: Hv and Japanese Fonts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:30:04 -0400 aguze118 wrote: > does anyone know where I can get the Dsp1402a file to display Japanese web > pages with HV. I have found a few sites that say the file is dsp1402a.lzh but > once I open it it's dsp1402. Has anyone ben able to read Japanese web pages > ith HV. No. dsp1402a.lzh will decommpressed into dsp14.com. NOT dsp1402. You should create dsp14a.com from dsp14.com by DEBUG. Please refer to: http://www.palmtop.net/japanese.html Toshiki Sasabe toshiki@j.email.ne.jp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:52:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Turbo C++ 3.0 Comments: To: kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A poster (Russell Hemery) posted about 2 weeks ago that "Borland Turbo c++ 3.0 docs say 286+ processor." - Longden Kiyoshi Akima on 04/28/99 06:47:43 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Turbo C++ 3.0 I was just in a store today and saw a big box called the Borland Turbo C++ Suite for US $60. One of the things in the box is Turbo C++ 3.0. The other stuff requires Windows 3.1 or better, and is of no further interest here. The box simply states that it runs under DOS. When I asked whether it would run on the 200LX, the clerk at the store simply said that he didn't think there would be any problem on any system with a 486 or better. The kid is probably too young to remember the original IBM PC or the AT, probably thinking that computers began with the 386/486. So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX? I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:56:30 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Toshiki Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Toshiki Subject: Re: A Call for Help: JKIT fonts. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:57:12 -0700 Quinton Jones Jr wrote: > I give up on finding the below listed fonts so if anybody has the JKIT > can you please send me a copy of these fonts: > > lxzn16x.fnt > lxhn16x.fnt > > Calling upon The SUPER Team far: Jorgen and Toshiki can you help me? JKIT is a commercial software, you need to buy it from Okaya Systemware as a whole packeg with installers, drivers, fonts and utility programs. Toshiki toshiki@j.email.ne.jp toshis@mba.sphere.ne.jp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:03:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Myron China Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Myron China Organization: Great-West Life Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello. are either of these omnibook 300's still available? i may be interested in buying one. please let me know. thanks. myron china Dan Ridenhour wrote: > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > ____________________________________________________ Myron China (KB0LMQ) myron.china@gwl.com ISIS Oracle Database Administrator Ph:(303)689-3981 Great-West Life Assurance Co. Fax:(303)689-4850 Englewood, CO cqc #53 qrp-l #113 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:03:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop In-Reply-To: <3727D321.B3DCE83F@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Apr 28, 99 11:33:53 pm Content-Type: text > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB. I think I see the confusion. The HP Windows version of the PIM apps will only support a standard, un-modified phone book. He must be confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK. I just double checked, and CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just fine. Hope this clears up the confusion. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:06:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Windows Version of HP Calc In-Reply-To: <000001be91f5$c8fc8540$bcac0ecb@ir1> from "Liam M. Early" at Apr 29, 99 08:04:52 am Content-Type: text > Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion, > would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you? > > It emulates the HPLX calculator fairly well. Liam: I have a new Pavillion, too. Where exactly did you find this simulated HP-LX calculator? I'm goin' hard-disk hunting when I get home... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:21:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Very useful piece of information, Chris. I have never used the windows version, so never knew that there were differences. This explains a lot. R. Christopher Lott wrote: > > > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB. > > I think I see the confusion. The HP Windows version of the PIM apps > will only support a standard, un-modified phone book. He must be > confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK. I just double checked, and > CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just > fine. Hope this clears up the confusion. > > -Chris > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Internal stack overflow, System halted Comments: To: John J Vanderstel In-Reply-To: <19990429.101958.3566.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com>; from John J Vanderstel on Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 10:19:44AM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Interesting. I get the same error when I try to undelete a file in Filer with my 2X 64MB machine. -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:34:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me correctly, I think some people once posted that the DOS CPACK application won't support a customized PDB during the "Xlate/Merge" function. I've never tried to do it myself, but under "Settings/Mapping" for that app, only the standard fields are listed. Other than that, I suppose the normal CPACK PIM functions will handle the custom PDB just fine. - Longden David Ness on 04/29/99 08:21:15 AM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to David Ness To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Very useful piece of information, Chris. I have never used the windows version, so never knew that there were differences. This explains a lot. R. Christopher Lott wrote: > > > > The Cpack from what I understand will only handle PDB not Custom GDB. > > I think I see the confusion. The HP Windows version of the PIM apps > will only support a standard, un-modified phone book. He must be > confusing this with the DOS-based CPACK. I just double checked, and > CPACK's phone book application opens my modified phone book file just > fine. Hope this clears up the confusion. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:35:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Francois Gurin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Francois Gurin Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour In-Reply-To: <008001be91cd$92aeb940$8494a8c0@dan-dell.Pulitzer.net>; from Dan Ridenhour on Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 06:18:21PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are any of the omnibooks still available?? --francois On Wed, Apr 28, 1999 at 06:18:21PM -0500, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 40mb PCMCIA HD, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. > > HP Omnibook 300, 4mb Model ($150 + Shipping) > Good Condition, 4mb RAM, 20mb FLASH Drive, battery (holds a charge), > AC Adapter, DOS, Windows 3.x, Excel, and Word In ROM. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:43:29 +0200 Reply-To: Stephan Goeldi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan Goeldi Subject: Re: Web pages by email Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I write it the second time (was my mail not clear enough?): send a mail to w3mail@gmd.de with nothing but the text "help" and you will get a description about how you can receive web pages by email. Quick reference: send the text: get http://www.yahoo.com to the above mentioned mail adress, and you will get the page as an attachment. -goe- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:57:03 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Donald Collins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Organization: Sacramento PC Users Group Subject: AP News with HV I thought I should share a great Associated Press URL that works great with HV. http://www.newsday.com/ap/internat.htm International http://www.newsday.com/ap/topnewsx.htm Top News http://www.newsday.com/ap/national.htm National http://www.newsday.com/ap/washingt.htm Washington http://www.newsday.com/ap/financex.htm Finance http://www.newsday.com/ap/wallstre.htm Wall Street The news is displayed without fancy pictures and formatting (example below) International 2:37 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ 2:34 pm U.S. Troops Conditions Improving 2:31 pm Arafat Holds Off on Statehood 2:27 pm Jackson Will Head to Yugoslavia 2:13 pm Bus Carrying Wedding Guests Crashes 1:53 pm Japan OKs U.S. Security Agreements 1:43 pm Ritzy Belgrade Mansions Depreciate 1:39 pm Clinton Calls Up Reservists 1:36 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ 1:34 pm Pianist Plays Near Hostile Border I created an app for my own personal use to download the articles for off-line reading (does some simple formatting to strip off banners & such) . I don't use WWW/LX so I don't know if it can automate downloading html's. Don. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:48:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Turbo C++ 3.0 In-Reply-To: <199942819521546334@ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Apr 1999, Kiyoshi Akima wrote: > So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on > the 200LX? I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable > upgrade for us? It won't run on the 200LX. It requires protected mode ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Fwd: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To the person who was looking for an Omnibook 300. I saw this one for sale earlier this week. Drop him a line and see if its still available. --- begin of forwarded message --- From: "Alchemist" Subject: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in = ROM Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:38:37 -0500 I have the following subnotebook computer for sale: HP Omnibook 300 Instant On Functionality with Weeks of Standby Power available. 386/20 4mb RAM (2mb Builtin + 2mb Expansion Card) 40mb HD (Type III, PCMCIA) 1 Free PCMCIA Type II card slot. Approx. 2.8lbs. battery (holds a charge, new batteries are rated for 5hrs with a HD, and 9hrs if a Flash card is used instead)* Will Also run for hours with 4 AA batteries (lithium or Duracell Ultras recommended) AC Adapter (has loose connection, but works fine for running and charging the unit) 640x480 Reflective LCD Display. (Looks good in most light, excellent outdoors) * The battery has run for hours in my testing, but no guarantees on = battery life of old batteries. Includes the following applications in ROM* - DOS 5 - Windows 3.1 - Microsoft Word 2.x - Microsoft Excel 4.x - HP PIM (Appointments, Phone book, etc.) - Laplink Remote Software - I will install 'Calmira' a windows 95 like shell application if you = wish. Gives the look and feel of WIn95 without the overhead. * Rom applications are execute in place, meaning they execute from ROM = and do not take up RAM memory to execute. This makes the system perform as if it = has considerably more than its 4mb of memory. This is an excellent take anywhere notebook, its light weight, long = battery life, and ability to run from AA batteries if needed give it functionality similar to todays Windows CE machines such as the NEC 700 without giving up the functionality of having real = DOS and WINDOWS (not CE) available. Price: $200 + Shipping Please send Inquiries to driden@stlnet.com Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com --- end of forwarded message --- Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Internal stack overflow, System halted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:44 -0400, John J Vanderstel wrote: > Well, without any other application running at all, today I opened > filer, just to see what it looked like. When I pressed "menu" and "Q" = to > exit filer, I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" error > message. A hard reboot was required to recover from this error. > > After the hard reboot, I went through the above process again and got > the same error message all over again. Try adding this line to your config.sys: Stacks=3D9,256 HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:00:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , h_e_guenther@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: AP News with HV Comments: To: Donald Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Donald Collins, thanks a lot. Download can be automated. Try GET/LX in combination with WWW/LX. Regards Helmuth > I thought I should share a great Associated Press URL > that works great with HV. > > http://www.newsday.com/ap/internat.htm International > http://www.newsday.com/ap/topnewsx.htm Top News > http://www.newsday.com/ap/national.htm National > http://www.newsday.com/ap/washingt.htm Washington > http://www.newsday.com/ap/financex.htm Finance > http://www.newsday.com/ap/wallstre.htm Wall Street > > The news is displayed without fancy pictures and > formatting (example below) > > > International > 2:37 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ > 2:34 pm U.S. Troops Conditions Improving > 2:31 pm Arafat Holds Off on Statehood > 2:27 pm Jackson Will Head to Yugoslavia > 2:13 pm Bus Carrying Wedding Guests Crashes > 1:53 pm Japan OKs U.S. Security Agreements > 1:43 pm Ritzy Belgrade Mansions Depreciate > 1:39 pm Clinton Calls Up Reservists > 1:36 pm NATO Strikes Milosevic's Party HQ > 1:34 pm Pianist Plays Near Hostile Border > > > I created an app for my own personal use to download > the articles for off-line reading (does some > simple formatting to strip off banners & such) . I > don't use WWW/LX so I don't know if it can automate > downloading html's. > > Don. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:01:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that would just make everyone's life easier, or simply having cut-down versions of some of the apps to help them go faster. Having a background in software maintenance, I've seen all sort of spaguetti code, so as long as the changes are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things to keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want. And basically yes, this would require the use of space on the ramdisk, which could be a problem to some. Philippe ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Keefe To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM Subject: Fw: HP EXM application Hi, Philippe, who wondered about rewriting the built in programs and asked >>What am I not seeing here? Did you ignore the fact that the code for the built in PIMS is in ROM? For me, the "better" code would have to be really "better" to devote disk space to it. Burning and replacing ROMS would be extremely expensive. Did I miss your definition of "better"? .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:05:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man Comments: To: Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel. However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently open the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file. Does anyone know if there's a feature in SC to prevent that from happening? Is the author of SC on this list? I'd imagine a simple text file containing a list of open databases would do the strick. If SC discovers that the file is already open (looking in that file), it could pop up a warning at least. Or perhaps someone could write a little TSR to do this? Stephan? Any interest? Thanks! Philippe :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Keefe To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 9:26 PM Subject: Maximum Mem in System Manager Hi, Philippe, who asked, >>The question is, how do I get more (conventional memory)? EMM? Anything else? All the tsrs and drivers that you use go into conventional memory. There is no equivalent for loading them into "high" memory on an 80186 machine. If you need to free up memory for a DOS program in session 1 of SC, you might try MAXDOS. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:06:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Internal stack overflow, System halted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> I got the "Internal stack overflow, System halted" (when quitting File= r) Sounds like you tried the hard reboot. Did you try chkdsk to see if the disk(s) might be corrupted. It happens. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:06:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> I think some people once posted that the DOS CPACK application won't support a customized PDB during the "Xlate/Merge" function. The version of CPack that I use won't handle a modified .PDB file if it h= as the .PDB extension. So I rename the .PDB to .GDB and use the database Xlate/Merge. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:12:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application In-Reply-To: <007901be926a$52d82c00$9765140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote: > And basically yes, this would require the use of space on the ramdisk, > which could be a problem to some. Personally, for the ability to customize the built-in apps, I'd gladly give up 3MB of my RAM drive. What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so they're more readable and easier to customize. But so far nobody's willing to take the challenge. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:11:18 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: POST/LX idea Comments: To: Mike Wagstaff MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Mike, > More than a little late in the day I know, but I had an idea > for POST/LX which I don't think has been put forward before. > Is there any chance of including an option to view messages > *vertically*, the way Vertical Reader displays documents? > > Not only is reading stuff vertically more comfortable on the > eyes because of the narrower width, you also have the added > bonus of being able to hold the palmtop just like a book. > Presumably, the main reason why it's not feasible is that it > would add too many extra KB to the program size... and the > small fact that probably nobody else wants such a feature! Don't say that! I wished this many times in the past. Everytime I sit in the train and read these lots of emails from HPLX-L, I thought it would be great if I could read these mails vertically. But I think it would be more useful to program an interface between Post/LX and VR than to program an Post/LX-own vertical reader module. Maybe it would be possible to call VR, leave it again, but as TSR, then start Post/LX and have a shortcut in Post/LX to send the mail to VR and fire VR up again. I think it would be possible yet to read mails vertically: Just put a command in the "external" section of the post.cfg, that starts VR with the current mail temp file as parameter. But this could be very slow! GTX daniel ------------------------------------------------- Daniel Hertrich Germany email: d.hertrich@gmx.de ------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:13:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: X-Finder Icon Fix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Actually, if you've recently changed icons in X-Finder and one appears to be corrupt, just hit ÝF1¨ to Init X-Finder and it will refresh the icon display. By the way, thanks to Penniel and others for turning me on to this great application. I'm just starting to get it set up the way I want (now that everyone else has moved on to Task Bar!) and I don't even bother with Filer or AppMgr any more. Now I'm busy working on a custom set of MacOS 8 Copland-style icons for X-Finder...he he he! > Doh! You don't even have to invert it. Just open it in icn200lx, save > and quit. > > Edward Moy wrote: > >> Correction: You only need to save after the second inversion; no need >> to save twice. >> >> Edward Moy wrote: >> >> > I don't know if this happened to anyone else but I found that >> > X-finder R.9 had difficulty displaying certain icons and would >> > draw them oddly -- usually a black vertical line along the right >> > side. Well, I came across a solution this morning: using >> > icn200lx.exe, invert the icon and save, then invert and save it >> > for a second time. My icon then appeared normal in X-Finder. >> > Strange. >> > >> > Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:16:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Ness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, since I started this thread, let me make a few simple points, IMHO: - The hardware only needs to be as good as the application running on it requires it. 200LX hardware (board) is fine for the built-in apps. - The builtin apps are already excellent and contain most of the features needed from them. - Writing apps (for other types of PDA) that are similar to the LX builtin apps is just re-inventing the wheel -- that turns really well in the first place. - Improving on the builtin apps will keep us happy, make us happier as time goes by, and keep the edge compared to the other PDAs. Screw the fact that the 200LX crowd is slowly shrinking. (BTW, even though there are dishwashers, many people still do it by hand: shrinking does not mean extinction). - Because of the previous points, there might be an incentive to either: a) get the source code and mess around with it, or b) rewrite the builtin apps, or c) write TSRs like Buddy that correct small problems or improve small areas or add small features. Okay, I'm ready of an assault! ;-) Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man In-Reply-To: <007f01be926a$e5f526f0$9765140a@siebel.com> from Fryday at "Apr 29, 99 11:05:39 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel. > However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently open > the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file. Wouldn't the DOS SHARE.EXE program handle this if placed in AUTOEXEC.BAT? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay people, I had no idea my cashflow spreadsheet would attract so much attention (well, 10 people asking for it is a lot for me). So I've decided to improve it and automate it as much as possible. In its current state, it's pretty much a dead spreadsheet that does nothing except add/subtract numbers, with one little macro to copy the last month to the new month. The rest is a manual job of cleaning up the old/new month to remove duplicate items. So hopefully everyone who has asked for it will send me feedback/frustrations so I can eventually put it in S.U.P.E.R. BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for 1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build so *really* snazzy stuff with it! Philippe ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy A. Barker To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet > >I've been using a cashflow spreadsheet to plan my spendings! It's > > >Let me know if you'd like to have it and try it! > > > I would love to give it a try! Thanks! > > n. > > Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:38:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application In-Reply-To: <008901be926c$786ec080$9765140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote: > - Improving on the builtin apps will keep us happy, make us happier as > time goes by, and keep the edge compared to the other PDAs. Screw the > fact that the 200LX crowd is slowly shrinking. (BTW, even though there > are dishwashers, many people still do it by hand: shrinking does not > mean extinction). Anybody interested in the topic of improving System Manager apps should look at the editorial I wrote about it at http://www.hplx.net/editorials.10121998.html. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:37:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems like a pipe dream... Philippe :-) From: David Sargeant > What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so > they're more readable and easier to customize. But so far nobody's > willing to take the challenge. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:38:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmmm, no familiar with it. Might screw up the built-in apps trying to get to the file... Anyone has an idea? Philippe :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Lawson To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man > > Hmmm, no. DOS is not an issue here since I'm using Software Carousel. > > However, the problem with SC and Sys Man is that I might inadvertently open > > the same file in another session -- and cause corruption of the file. > > Wouldn't the DOS SHARE.EXE program handle this if placed in AUTOEXEC.BAT? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:41:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My questions: - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat? - When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I heard a beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep again, but the palmtop froze. Any idea what's going on? Philippe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:45:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: ATA Flash cards <==> Linux Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just in case anyone finds it useful, starting with a straight Red Hat 5.2 install on my Sony Vaio PCG-505TX, all I had to do was uncomment the #-ed-out lines in /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts, change DO_FSCK to "n" (since fsck.msdos isn't available anywhere I can find), and mkdir /ide. Bingo, stick the card in and it goes bleep bleep, and my 85MB Sandisk flash that was A: on my LX is now /ide on my laptop. According to the docs it's wise to type "cardctl eject" before you pop it out; the HOWTO claims that they've not gotten around to making the IDE card services module hot-ejectable as yet. Time to re-think my backup strategy. But I'll be playing with Minix Real Soon Now (tm). -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:49:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application In-Reply-To: <019701be926f$5a1c6cb0$9765140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote: > Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I > mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems > like a pipe dream... From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely difficult to understand. Things like being spread out into zillions of files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc. Probably easier to start from scratch with something more logically structured like NKIT. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:52:28 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Really dumb question on packet What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook into the go america system? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:59:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Sargeant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like the editorial. It certainly has a certain "world domination" flair, but nevertheless a new and improved Systems Manager -- using expanded memory -- is a great idea. But doing it and keeping the same look/feel/set of features is gonna be a major pain in the butt -- unless we have something to look at. At least, we'll be able to use the built-in apps with the new system manager instead of having to come up with the whole nine yards on the first release... Philippe ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: David Sargeant To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application > On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Fryday wrote: > > > Yes, a big effort and time commitment for a small return. That's why I > > mentioned trying to get a hold of the original code. But that seems > > like a pipe dream... > > From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely > difficult to understand. Things like being spread out into zillions of > files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc. Probably easier to start > from scratch with something more logically structured like NKIT. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:53:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Software Carousel conflicts in Sys Man MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Hopefully, this is what you are asking. Version 7.07 of SC doesn't allow you to open more than one ABD, PDB, WDB, NDB file (in their respective applications) at the same time. It does allow more than one file in the data base application. Therefore, if you opened the same data base file in 2 sessions, you could (likely would) corrupt it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:01:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet In-Reply-To: <199903291352.PNR02822@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using a > radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook into > the go america system? I don't think so... but perhaps somebody more familiar with amateur packet radio could explain the differences between the two systems. (Go America, for what it's worth, uses either the BellSouth Wireless Data network, the ARDIS network, or the CDPD network.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:57:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: ATA Flash cards <==> Linux Comments: To: Bennett Todd In-Reply-To: <19990429174509.A12041@mordor.net>; from Bennett Todd on Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 05:45:09PM +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rod Whitby and were playing around with Linux and those cheapy NECX card readers for desktop machines not too long ago. He turned me onto using AUTOFS with the flash disk and it works wonderfully. I pop in the card, the machine beeps and then I just type "cd /mnt/flash". To unmount, I just change out of that directory and 30 seconds later the moint point vanishes and the card can be extracted. Easy Schmeasy. :) -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:03:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 06:52am CDT, the following was written: > What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using > a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook > into the go america system? Amateur AX.25 packet or commercial packet? Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:13:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jan Allbright Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Allbright Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet In-Reply-To: <199903291352.PNR02822@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Packet Radio requires that you hold an amateur radio license and utilizes the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster speeds. Direct access to the InterNet is limited due to the legal aspects of third party traffic (that is communicaitons not from licensed amateurs). Thus Amateur Packet Radio looks more like a BBS as opposed to th InterNet. "Go America" is a comercial product that is designed for InterNet access. It does not require that you hold a license (Go America holds the license). If you are looking for wireless InterNet access - Go America would be your better choice. On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using > a radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook > into the go america system? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > --- Jan Allbright FF/EMT-B "36-92" - Peyton Volunteer Fire Department KC0BUY - 146.970(-) Ý100Hz PL¨ Col. Springs, CO jan.allbright@usa.net - kc0buy@usa.net SPAMMERS - mail me and get 1,000 copies in return! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:54:48 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Ness In-Reply-To: <37274E5C.8EDCC8CA@Home.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:07:24 -0400 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness From: David Ness Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Strikes me you are swimming against three strong currents: > (1) Alternative hardware is getting better, cheaper, faster; The only thing is that no one is selling it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:23:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: ; from David Sargeant on Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 11:12:04AM -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1999-04-29-18:12:04 David Sargeant: > What _I_ think we should do is rewrite all the built-in apps with NKIT so > they're more readable and easier to customize. But so far nobody's > willing to take the challenge. Well, I keep tip-toeing closer and closer, by teensy little steps. So far I've beenm pondering some core data structures. One thing that totally rocks about the LX PIM suite is the largely consistent roots in a common db core. Much of the annoyance that I'd love to lose comes from inconsistencies and limitations in the use of that db core. So I'm thinking, time as come for a new one. I haven't quite settled the final details yet, but so far I'm thinking of a text format for the basic database; it'd be CSV, with the schema encoded up top. Maybe e.g. "Restaurant","Phone","Category","Address","Note" "c(70)","c(35)","c(32)","c(73)c(73)","c(76)+" followed by CSV for the data. Maybe add another couple of records that document the index and full-page screen layouts. Add some auxiliary index files for fast random access, make a really efficient low-level access library so it's tolerably fast overall, then layer it atop an I/O library that allows you to place any files you want into zip archives. If we could do that much, and provide a suitably clean user interface with a look 'n' feel similar enough to the builtin phonebook, then we could start rassling with other important data types --- numeric, timestamp, interval, category, checkbox, radio-box, whatever else we can dream up. I'm thinking this would be nicest if assembled in very portable C, designed to be able to run in very limited space --- I'd love to be able to run the identical PIM compiled as a .EXM with the aid of a compat shim interface to the PAL libs, or as a native executable under Minix on the palmtop, or as a shockingly small and fast utility under Linux. So I'm dreaming, a man can dream, can't he? :-) -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:57:18 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Lost HP200LX, help? Comments: To: colin cohen In-Reply-To: <199904270903_MC2-7394-8DA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:45 -0400 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , colin cohen From: colin cohen Subject: Lost HP200LX, help? To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Can anyone suggest some help: > > I left my HP200LX on my seat after arriving from Frankfurt last > night. UA977 Frankfurt/Dulles 3/31/99. I have reported it but > there is only a recording on the number with a promise to get back > in 10 days. > > Any ideas? Maybe this is a sign that we should all put a firm adhesive label or two on our machines with our name, address, and phone number? In some place where it would not get rubbed off. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:57:18 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: Digi-Key goodies Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <199904241625.MAA24166@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:25:50 -0400 Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Digi-Key goodies To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Sat, 24 Apr 1999 12:15:31 -0400 (EDT) > > Hi gang- > > I know this has come up here before, but Digi-Key is a great source of > hardware to use with your palmtops! The latest catalog has the 2mm > connectors for the serial port, Panasonic 1500 mAHr NiMH AA batteries, > bright white LEDs (2300 mcd), heat shrink tubing and just about anything > else you might be looking for for a palmtop project. > Just remember though that their catalog is BIG. And the contents are really quite unreadable to any but those steeped in the language and trade of electronics. For other people, if it actually had something you needed in there, you'd never know. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:58:51 -0230 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andy Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: Rick Rae In-Reply-To: <199904281927230950.0EB320A4@mail.mindspring.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date sent: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:27:23 -0400 Send reply to: RickRae@usa.net From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > You might try writing to the Netmind folks. They have been pretty > responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell. Who/ where are they? > > P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch > something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when > you're ready. What's that? Retrieve the page from the cache? Could you explain? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:36:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 02:13pm CDT, the following was written: > the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for > VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster > speeds. Unless you live in Europe where 9600bps is all the rage . Maybe one here in the States we can speed it up just a bit. 1200bps functional, but 9600bps would be much better! 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.04beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:04:38 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: HP & Related Items for Sale, Spring Cleaning Again! Comments: To: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 19:50:20 -0700, "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." wrote: > what are the dimensions of the omnibook You can find the dimensions for the omnibooks at my site: Its: http://home.earthlink.net/~qman HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:51:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Nickum, Roy H." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nickum, Roy H." Subject: Custom replacement for the HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Maybe a custom replacement for our HP20LX's in a billet machined aluminum enclosure is not so far fetched. See some of the articles @ http://www.cellcomputing.com In particular, one on a custom pilot's replacement for paper charts @ http://www.cellcomputing.com/third/newswhit3.html The web site, by the way, is running on their 85.6x54x12.7 mm CardPC with the Linux OS and Apache web server. They claim it has been running for over 4 months with down time only to upgrade to Red Hat Linux 5.1. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:43:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Try the Outlook Contacts to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >I think I can help you with this. Simply rename your phone.pdb to phone.gdb > and open it with the database app. Then using the menus > > you can modify the database to your heart's content. Specifically, you can The only potential problem with the addition of fields to the pdb is that the HP PIM applications which come with the Omnibook series may not be able to deal with the modified file structure. It is not a problem on the HPx00 series but on the Windows' based versions of those applications. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:10:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet Comments: To: Fryday >BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for >1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build >so *really* snazzy stuff with it! :-) Seems nobody uses it... Bugger the other apps, if one has a spreadsheet, programmable too, then thats all one needs. I remember being very impressed with a simple macro system for SuperCalc once upon a time. With it one could write letters. Bold, italic, underlined, left, centre and right justified text. Wonderfull! :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:22:27 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Windows Version of HP Calc Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" What's a Pavillion? >Yup, sure is just got a copy with my new HP Pavilion, >would you like me to zip a demo 8-) up for you? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:12:58 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: New stuff on palmtop.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi friends! I just sent a new article to Mitch. This time my subject was 'how to create a IR transmitter device'. You can see there how I made my own device for communication between palmtop and desktop PC via infrared. You find it in the more... section of palmtop.net: www.palmtop.net/more.html There is also one more new article from me regarding the serial port of the LX. It describes which pins lead which signals, how to connect to the serial port of a desktop PC or a modem and how to build a serial cable / null modem cable. Hope you enjoy it daniel Daniel Hertrich, Germany d.hertrich@gmx.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:11:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: WWW/LX Problems & Questions Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290803434__" --__next_part__1290803434__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you for the primer Stan. It was just the sort of thing I was = looking for. I didn't learn anything new(!), but knowing that I hadn't = missed anything and that I'm going about things the right way is equally = valuable. You explain things well, so, next question. Why might someone set up = multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP? --__next_part__1290803434__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290803434__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:15:09 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: HP EXM alterations like FASTDB.TSR and their likes Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit And I will change the subject if I can fit in a reasonable one liners > - Because of the previous points, there might be an incentive to either: a) > get the source code and mess around with it, or b) rewrite the builtin apps, > or c) write TSRs like Buddy that correct small problems or improve small > areas or add small features. > Okay, I'm ready of an assault! ;-) It is good to see someone so gung ho!!! One of the programmers who has read the developer's kit and knows what's what might know but there is at least, a limited (no so limited???) ability to alter the behavior of some of the built-in applications with the use of some special files place in c:\_dat. There are one or two examples, the more popular being FASTDB.TSR. There was another, I recall, that had to do with longer custom sound files working in the appointment application. Again, I don't know what or how these apps work but they obviously have some kind of hooks which loads them as the hp is reinitialized and then incorporates the code into the internal applications. ANYBODY know how far and how powerful that facility is????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:39:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: Daily Message Threshold Reset MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: It seem there has been so much discussion, and I'm pleased to say fruitful discussion (as opposed to flame warS), that an increase in the daily limit is in order. To that end, I have up the daily limit to 100 messages. Cheers, *Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager _ __ _ __ *Microchemistry Lab U-193 ___ _ (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ / *3113 Horsebarn Rd / _ `/ / / / '_/ / _ Y _ / *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/ *Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124 |___/ Team 200LX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:43:33 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: sound ?? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ?? PCMCIA sound card? or any serial based sound output devices ?? (par-pcmcia card and travel sound device too much hassle) would anyone be interested in something small and external for sound output ?? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:43:29 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Using Rand McNally roadmaps with LXMap Does anyone know if the above can be copied and used with LXMap? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:45:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: ADMIN: Daily Message Threshold Reset Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 04:39pm CDT, the following was written: > It seem there has been so much discussion, and I'm pleased to say > fruitful discussion (as opposed to flame warS), that an increase in the > daily limit is in order. To that end, I have up the daily limit to 100 > messages. The real truth is that Al is tired of me calling him in the middle of the night, when he is trying to sleep, to get him to release the list.... just kidding . Thanks Al for the raising of the limit! Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:47:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: sound ?? Comments: To: sputnik@VOICENET.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 04:43pm CDT, the following was written: > anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ?? David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it requires a bit of surgery. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:59:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: sound ?? In-Reply-To: <199904292148.QAA23885x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it > requires a bit of surgery. Not a terrible amount of surgery, really, but a fair amount. Certainly nothing as complicated as installing a memory connector on the motherboard. The instructions are on my Hardware Hacking page. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:10:28 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Turbo C++ 3.0 Comments: To: kakima@IX.NETCOM.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >So, the question is, does anybody know whether Turbo C++ 3.0 runs on the 200LX? > >I have Turbo C++ 2.0, which does run fine. Is 3.0 a viable upgrade for us? > >Kiyoshi Akima >kakima@ix.netcom.com Hi Kiyoshi & list From the Borland Turbo 3.0 C++ manual... Turbo C++ 3.0 requires 286+ DOS3.31+ 640k 1MBextended and HD. any 80 column monitor. I'd say this rules out the LX. Any gurus think they could tweak the SW? Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:14:56 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Free email for the HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Before anyone plans heavy use of Palmtop.Com and pays for all the extra features I recommend you try using the simple free email for a while. I tried using it and found cc:Mail unreliable. I had numerous 200LX hangs. I don't know if the problem was Palmtop.com (I think this unlikely as Martin also run a cc:Mail postoffice for commercial customers), or cc:Mail in the 200LX or maybe it's just my 200LX. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:29:04 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: SCSI/Audio Card was: sound ?? Comments: To: Jeff Johns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ?? Hi all I have a Noteworthy SCSI/Audio card Model NWCOMB02 from Toshiba. I used it on a laptop with no CD or sound card to give those features for me. Docs say it needs Win3.1 or higher for the included software. Low power consumption (dont know how low) I was wondering if someone in the US could call Toshiba customer support on 1-800-999-4273 to find if this a possible for the LX.. ie does DOS software exist/be written if the power consumption is low enough. The card was like USD80 and it would be cool to be able to hook a SCSI drive to the LX as well as play/record sound. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:38:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Disable "Press a key" after batch file exec in appt. manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do you disable the "Press any key" after a batch file when scheduling a program to run in appt. manager? Thanks, Philippe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:53:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: sound ?? Comments: To: Jeff Johns In-Reply-To: <199904292148.QAA23885x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: humm a headphone jack.. humm the internal PC speaker is so limited i was thinking something with alittle more umph' =) > On 04-29 04:43pm CDT, the following was written: > > > anyone know of a way to get external sound source on the 200LX ?? > > David put a headphone jack in his LX, that would be one way, but it requires > a bit of surgery. > > Jeff > > > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* > |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | > | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| > |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | > *------------------------------------------------------------------* > > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:55:26 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: SCSI/Audio Card was: sound ?? Comments: To: Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <1286697552-50340610@talent.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII humm this sounds like a repackaged TOAST & JAM card (SCSI/Sound) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:58:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: sound ?? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Sputnik wrote: > humm a headphone jack.. humm the internal PC speaker is so limited i > was thinking something with alittle more umph' =) Believe me, you won't be disappointed with a headphone jack. Even a simple pair of headphones on the LX's 8-volt "loudest" volume generates quite a loud tone. Of course, if you want more _sophisticated_ sound, this won't help at all. But for sheer volume, the headphone jack is the way to go. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:17:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Disable "Press a key" after batch file exec in appt. manager Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:38:43 -0700, Fryday wrote: > How do you disable the "Press any key" after a batch file when schedulin= g a > program to run in appt. manager? Put a upside down " =BF " question mark in the comments field. By using the ÝFN¨+Ý3¨ combo. Trust me it'll work! Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:21:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: sound ?? Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, David Sargeant wrote: > Believe me, you won't be disappointed with a headphone jack. Even a > simple pair of headphones on the LX's 8-volt "loudest" volume generates > quite a loud tone. Of course, if you want more _sophisticated_ sound, > this won't help at all. But for sheer volume, the headphone jack is the > way to go. > Oh i believe it would be loud :) yeah i was thinking of something along the lines of 4 or more voices, so the internal speaker wont do maybe a double speed LX could use a multitasking speaker program for multiple voices.. but thats something i dont have :( ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:45:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Sargeant wrote: > From what I hear, Hal is definitely right-- the code is extremely > difficult to understand. Things like being spread out into zillions of > files, hideous spaghetti function calls, etc Part of the reason for this is that the ROM code is eXecute-In-Place (XIP) and run directly from the ROM. The 2MB of ROM in the 200LX is made of of a bunch of banks that use special hardware to switch the chunks of ROM into a page of address space between 640K and 1MB to execute. Then when another piece of code is needed that is from another chunck, the ROM banks have to be switched electronically and then the program can continue. There is one very big benefit to this scheme. No system RAM is needed to hold code for any ROM programs. So, precious system RAM is not taken up by loading the ROM programs from the ROM into RAM to run. Also, the bank switching is considerably faster than copying ROM code into RAM before it can get executed. The downside is some very complicated code. :-( also, debugging can only be done on a computer that has the special bank switching hardware. To test the ROM programs, HP used to use a special version of the 100LX that allowed the plug in flash card to functionally replace the internal ROM. So, they would write a flash card, plug it into a 100LX and this would give them a 200LX to test. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:45:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that would > just make everyone's life easier ... as long as the changes > are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things to > keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want A bit of history about the FASTDB.TSR program. I and a couple of other TeamHP members from the HP Handhelds forum on CompuServe were visiting HP's facilities in Corvallis, Oregon. We were having lunch with the two programmers responsible for the majority of the code HP worte for the 95/100/200LX ROMs and mentioned that opening and closing of GDB & PDB files can be kind of slow sometimes. A little later in the day, Andy Gryc came to us with a floppy in hand and said to try using this untested FASTDB.TSR he just wrote. He said that if it worked to make it available to others. The rest is history. There already is a mechanism designed into the SysMgr API that allows the internal applications to be "patched". This is what the FASTDB.TSR does. These *.TSR patches sit in the C:\_DAT directory are are automatically loaded and used by SysMgr as needed. There can be application-specific TSR's to do all kinds of things. I don't know the details of how this is done but I have heard that this stuff exists and that is would be a challenge to use it. The documentation is in the SDK. Let's consider my words as a challenge to those C programmers out there. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:45:08 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Vertical Display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > To demonstrate Vertical display, I wrote a tiny TSR. After > activation with Fn-V it outputs all text vertically I tried it. It is amazing that even after all these years, the 200LX can still suprise me with it's capabilities. And congratulations to you, Stefan, for finding this golden nugget. Maybe your discovery will be put to good use. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:50:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Disable "Press a key" after batch file exec in appt. manager Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:24:11 -0700, "Fryday" = wrote: > There's no comments field in the appointment form. I think you're = confusing > it with the program form in the app manager. In any case, I tried = putting > the inverted question mark in the Location and the Note field, but it = didn't > work... > > Any ideas? > > Philippe :-) Sorry about! In that case put a " Q " as in Qman for the location. I told you not to trust! Anyway that should fix your probelm. (:-) Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:58:51 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: HP EXM application Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like the way to go for all sorts of small interesting improvements! Philippe ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Stanley Dobrowski To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: HP EXM application > Fryday wrote: > > > Well, actually, by better I really meant adding small features that would > > just make everyone's life easier ... as long as the changes > > are small and useful, we might be able to crank out "nice" little things to > > keep the apps at the bleeding edge whenever we want > > A bit of history about the FASTDB.TSR program. I and a couple > of other TeamHP members from the HP Handhelds forum on > CompuServe were visiting HP's facilities in Corvallis, Oregon. > We were having lunch with the two programmers responsible for > the majority of the code HP worte for the 95/100/200LX ROMs > and mentioned that opening and closing of GDB & PDB files can > be kind of slow sometimes. A little later in the day, Andy > Gryc came to us with a floppy in hand and said to try using > this untested FASTDB.TSR he just wrote. He said that if it > worked to make it available to others. The rest is history. > > > There already is a mechanism designed into the SysMgr API that > allows the internal applications to be "patched". This is > what the FASTDB.TSR does. These *.TSR patches sit in the > C:\_DAT directory are are automatically loaded and used by > SysMgr as needed. There can be application-specific TSR's to > do all kinds of things. > > I don't know the details of how this is done but I have heard > that this stuff exists and that is would be a challenge to use > it. The documentation is in the SDK. Let's consider my words > as a challenge to those C programmers out there. > > > Stan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:49:37 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Lost HP200LX, help? Comments: To: avardy@roadrunner.nf.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/29/1999 03:24:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, avardy@ROADRUNNER.NF.NET writes: > Maybe this is a sign that we should all put a firm adhesive label or > two on our machines with our name, address, and phone number? > In some place where it would not get rubbed off. > Sounds like my "Physical Top Card" solution. I have designed & printed a label with Name, Address, Phone, Fax, e-mail, etc. The label is sized to fit on top of the LX with 1/4" bottom, left, & right, and 1/8" top green LX exposed. Then I use clear "Contact" Brand shelf paper to affix the label to the LX. I've had the same label in place for nearly 2 years, and it looks really professional. Trim the Contact Paper neatly, so it doesn't snag. Works for me. Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:05:46 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Boot sequence on LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I have recently read of the bootup sequence on "normal" PC's and was wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX? If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not another DOS as well? ie if command.com MSDos.sys and io.sys were on Flash would it boot? If not why not? TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:11:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Re: Fwd: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM Comments: To: Quinton Jones Jr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quinton, I posted that ad, and have since posted the OB300 and a few other items to the list. I have recieved LOTS of responses and should have probably left my price at $200 instead of lowering it to $150 for the list, but so is life. Now Im wading thru my responses, so anyone out there wondering, Im reading as fast as I can Dan driden@stlnet.com -----Original Message----- From: Quinton Jones Jr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:07 PM Subject: Fwd: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM To the person who was looking for an Omnibook 300. I saw this one for sale earlier this week. Drop him a line and see if its still available. --- begin of forwarded message --- From: "Alchemist" Subject: FS: Omnibook 300, 4mb RAM, 40mb HD, DOS+Windows+Excel+Word in ROM Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:38:37 -0500 I have the following subnotebook computer for sale: HP Omnibook 300 Instant On Functionality with Weeks of Standby Power available. 386/20 4mb RAM (2mb Builtin + 2mb Expansion Card) 40mb HD (Type III, PCMCIA) 1 Free PCMCIA Type II card slot. Approx. 2.8lbs. battery (holds a charge, new batteries are rated for 5hrs with a HD, and 9hrs if a Flash card is used instead)* Will Also run for hours with 4 AA batteries (lithium or Duracell Ultras recommended) AC Adapter (has loose connection, but works fine for running and charging the unit) 640x480 Reflective LCD Display. (Looks good in most light, excellent outdoors) * The battery has run for hours in my testing, but no guarantees on battery life of old batteries. Includes the following applications in ROM* - DOS 5 - Windows 3.1 - Microsoft Word 2.x - Microsoft Excel 4.x - HP PIM (Appointments, Phone book, etc.) - Laplink Remote Software - I will install 'Calmira' a windows 95 like shell application if you wish. Gives the look and feel of WIn95 without the overhead. * Rom applications are execute in place, meaning they execute from ROM and do not take up RAM memory to execute. This makes the system perform as if it has considerably more than its 4mb of memory. This is an excellent take anywhere notebook, its light weight, long battery life, and ability to run from AA batteries if needed give it functionality similar to todays Windows CE machines such as the NEC 700 without giving up the functionality of having real DOS and WINDOWS (not CE) available. Price: $200 + Shipping Please send Inquiries to driden@stlnet.com Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com --- end of forwarded message --- Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:25 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andreas, Yes, I have tried out VR (as an "external" program), but the main problem was the fact that VR wasn't designed as an email reader, and the lack of integration with POST/LX (e.g. one keypress to move to the next message, one keypress to reply, etc). I don't think that turning the machine would be too much of a hassle, especially when reading the messages on a mailing list (such as HPLX), for example, where you're reading for the most part, and not replying. -Mike > This once has been discussed during the beta test. If I recall > correctly, we found that just for reading POST/LX message files, VR > already can be used and for full integration (reading, replying etc), > it would be quite inconvenient to always turn the machine. So it was > not implemented. Did you try VR on a POST/LX message file. Maybe it > does all you want. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:32 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Wagstaff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Wagstaff Subject: Re: Vertical Display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Makes you wonder... What if Stefan had written Windows, instead of Gates & co.?! Thanks for the great little TSR, Stefan! -Mike > Please don't flame me for attaching the 700 bytes TSR. > > Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:18:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: Boot sequence on LX Comments: To: Russell Hemery In-Reply-To: <1286691750-50689559@talent.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not > another DOS as well? > > ie if command.com MSDos.sys and io.sys were on Flash would it boot? humm good question.. im sure it's something with the OS files are already in rom it seems and the only thing the system looks for when booting is the config.sys and autoexec.bat files on which ever drive you choose to be the boot drive.. now that you asked that question i wonder if SYSTEM COMMANDER would work on the palmtop or if there is a way to do a soft-reset to where you can patch the internal-rom (can this be done) first to skip the internal DOS files and look on your PCMCIA card ?? one of those new 80/128 meg CF cards would sound pretty nice =) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:28:36 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application Lynn M. Cavendish writes: > fact, the market is making it increasingly likely that nothing will replace > the HP in the next 2 or 3 generations of development... > ... I expect to stay with the HP200LX for a long time to come. > > (I suspect I have more company on this list than you think.) Hear! Hear! I'm in your company. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:13:56 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My > questions: > > - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat? > - When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I heard a > beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep again, > but the palmtop froze. SecureDevice is a device driver so you need to put it in the CONFIG.SYS like this... device=d:\path\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13 Then later, when you want to access the drive you need to use SD's LOGIN command, from a DOS command line, in any of you SC work areas. While you are logged into the SD encrypted drive it is accessable from all your SC work areas. You can use LOGOUT, or LOGIN without a (valid) password, to close up the SD drive again. The "/t13" in my command above causes the drive to automatically logout 13 minutes after I've last used it. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:14:00 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > What is the differance between using a packet radio network or using a > radio system like go america? Could packet radio be used to hook into > the go america system? One of the biggest differences is that ham radio is for hams. There are rules against commercial use of amateur radio so that would be a big limitation for many people. While I'm a Ham (N6EGJ) I'm not active anymore and have never used Packet so I can't discuss the technical differences. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:23:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was trying to use SDTSR.COM to automate the password logging process. The tsr is supposed to wait for access to the drive and then automatically ask for the passphrase. However, it seems to hang the lx after the passphrase has been entered. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: Russel Brooks To: Fryday ; Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups > > I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My > > questions: > > > > - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat? > > - When I ran SD in hp.bat and tried to access the drive in filer, I heard a > > beep, I entered the passphrase, pressed ENTER, then I heard a beep again, > > but the palmtop froze. > > SecureDevice is a device driver so you need to put it in the > CONFIG.SYS like this... > > device=d:\path\secdev.sys c:\secdev.!@# /t13 > > Then later, when you want to access the drive you need to use > SD's LOGIN command, from a DOS command line, in any of you SC > work areas. While you are logged into the SD encrypted drive it > is accessable from all your SC work areas. > > You can use LOGOUT, or LOGIN without a (valid) password, to > close up the SD drive again. The "/t13" in my command above > causes the drive to automatically logout 13 minutes after I've > last used it. > > cheers... Russ > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:42:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Colin Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: The news of the demise of my LX is premature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit During a tech support call to HP for my OmniBook yesterday, I had the good fortune to speak with a real HP employee. This fellow was very knowledgeable, unusual for corporate techs. We spent about 20 minutes talking about the older HP products and the direction of the company. There is still a strong demand for the 200LX and it should be manufactured for quite some time. I suspect this fellow's personal 200LX is on it's way to Thaddeus for a 64 meg Times2 upgrade by now. Colin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 21:21:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 08:14pm CDT, the following was written: > While I'm a Ham (N6EGJ) I'm not active anymore and have never > used Packet so I can't discuss the technical differences. Come on Russ..... drag out some of that old gear out of the closet and put it to use..... or if you're not gonna use it, I DO take donations . 73 Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:41:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: the stack overflow error Hi Qman and Ed, --- quoted from Qman's response --- >Try adding this line to your config.sys: > >Stacks=9,256 I tried that and it had no effect, at all. I did add it in as a permanent line in my config.sys file, anyway though. Thanks, Qman. It will probably come in handy for other DOS applications that I may install in the future. :-) --- quoted from Ed's response --- >Sounds like you tried the hard reboot. Did you try chkdsk to see if the >disk(s) might be corrupted. It happens. I tried chkdsk and it didn't find any file or directory corruption. I think I know what the problem is now. My network software tricks my HP200LX into thinking that there are 4 more local drives. DOS on my HP200LX also sees E:, S:, X: and M: drives as ordinary local drives. I now strongly suspect that filer was not programmed to handle so many local drives. It's no big deal to me, though. I'm more at home at the DOS prompt, anyway. :-) However.... I guess that quirk could be considered a drawback to the use of LBL network software on the HP200LX for those who prefer to use Filer. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:54:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eben Rubin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eben Rubin Subject: Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have any experience with Intuit's "Pocken Quicken Connect"? The HP connectivity pack merges and synchronizes with only up to Quicken for Windows 3, and I'm up to 6 already. I thought I could translate/synch the HP with my old Quicken 3, and then let Quicken 6 import the data. It's easy enough to get Q6 to convert the file, but it won't merge it with existing data. So I wound up exporting and importing QIF files. It worked, but it was a pain. Does anybody have a better solution? And does anybody have a copy of Pocket Quicken Connect that they're not using, and might want to sell? THANKS, Eben ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:54:16 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Opening the Oyster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, Can someone please tell me the secret to opening the 200LX case? I want to check whether I have the socket for extra memory. I pulled the little feet off, and unscrewed the four screws, but it really doesn't want to come apart, and I don't want to force it. What's holding it together? Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:06:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Opening the Oyster In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Hi All, Can someone please tell me the secret to opening the 200LX > case? I want to check whether I have the socket for extra memory. I > pulled the little feet off, and unscrewed the four screws, but it > really doesn't want to come apart, and I don't want to force it. > What's holding it together? There are instructions on the Hardware Hacking pages at www.hplx.net, I'm pretty sure. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:15:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Opening the Oyster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 10:06pm CDT, the following was written: > There are instructions on the Hardware Hacking pages at www.hplx.net, I'm > pretty sure. I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or twice a week . It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:23:02 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Opening the Oyster Comments: To: Jeff Johns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or twice >a week . It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk. Hi all Where did AOL mail them? Never received one in Oz :) Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:53:11 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david.eggins@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Eggins Subject: TBLX help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all. I have been trying to get TBLX running, and have had some problems. The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents. Programs and Find do not work. The submenu appears, bit onlt the one menu item position is built, but no text appears. I can then cursor up and down to see it clear a position for the next menu item, but still no text appears. Also, on the first level of menu, the Run does not work. It does nothing at all. Any idea what is wrong? TIA David Eggins ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:54:28 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lodger@NZ1.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Opening the Oyster Comments: To: Russell Hemery Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I'm missing the connection between opening the 200LX case and disks mailed out by AOL. Am I thick or are you guys on something? >I sure hope he saved all thos AOL disks they used to mail out once or twice >a week . It's amazing what you can do with a 3-1/2" floppy disk. >>Where did AOL mail them? Never received one in Oz :) Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:12:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: PGP & the LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's? Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBNyktmaWqweldpM/1AQEakwL9FFsNRr277LPM8Dhs4yYW3s4IKCg1v9Pw jYjH3LUGDcjTc/Lmd8lD3/x1k2rDllkZHxhgoznV02rN1hIrNX/hqf8M5lgCIrkM 2xU4SNFd25rdQ9mHmb5Fj6Hr33575RVO =k8SQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 23:17:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Opening the Oyster Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-29 10:54pm CDT, the following was written: > I'm missing the connection between opening the 200LX case and > disks mailed out by AOL. > Am I thick or are you guys on something? You can use a 3-1/2" floppy disk to open the LX up in a fairly safe manner without hurting the case. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:40:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: PGP & the LX Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have PGP on my LX. About 3 yrs ago I used it regularly. Then I realized that (1) I never needed `certification' of just about anything that passed thru my pc (other than `commercial' transactions); (2) it was a real PITA to read all the absolutely useless garbage of ---BEGIN PGP ... etc. when I didn't care about the consequence of someone lying about who they were anyway. After all, if it is not the `real' Jeff Johns asking this question, I'd answer it anyway. I keep one file PGP protected on my LX. It contains my passwords to other accounts, and I am pretty careful to blitz the erased storage whenever I look at it, which I need to do once every few months. I figure if I lose my 200Lx, my passwords are reasonably safe. My conclusion: PGP is really swell for what it is, but what it _isn't_ is a help to normal communication. Along with things like long sigs that I don't care about, it contributes `less' rather than `more'... Jeff Johns wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's? > > Jeff > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQB1AwUBNyktmaWqweldpM/1AQEakwL9FFsNRr277LPM8Dhs4yYW3s4IKCg1v9Pw > jYjH3LUGDcjTc/Lmd8lD3/x1k2rDllkZHxhgoznV02rN1hIrNX/hqf8M5lgCIrkM > 2xU4SNFd25rdQ9mHmb5Fj6Hr33575RVO > =k8SQ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* > |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | > | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| > |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | > *------------------------------------------------------------------* > > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:01:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones JR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones JR Subject: Re: TBLX help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I have been trying to get TBLX running, and have had some problems. >The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents. >Programs and Find do not work. The submenu appears, bit onlt the one >menu item position is built, but no text appears. I can then cursor up >and down to see it clear a position for the next menu item, but still >no text appears. Confirming you copied the tblx.dat to your c:\_dat or a:\_dat directory and add some programs? I've included a copy of mine at the bottom for your review. >Also, on the first level of menu, the Run does not work. It does >nothing at all. In order for "Run" to work you must have DOSline installed. I think its available for download on the SUPER Site. TBLX.DAT Ýoption¨ taskbar=2 allkill=4000 tblxend=1 123g=08A9 ip=6500 Ýrun¨ dosline=8100 Ýfind¨ Filename=6900 Contents=6d00 Ýprogram¨ Accessories=0 PIM=0 Internet=0 Games=0 Quicken=ac00 ClipVue=6000 Lotus 123=bc00 DOS Prompt=c200 TaskList=7100 MoreExm Menu=6100 KeyM=A700 Log Express=6600 X-Finder=6f00 More...=a400 Filer=a800 Memo=b800 Calculator=c000 StopWatch=b600 WorldTime=c600 SystemMacros=aa00 Laplink=ab00 Ffdb=6400 AlarmClock=069c Appointments=b000 DataBase=ba00 NoteTaker=be00 PhoneBook=b400 WWW/LX=09ae POST/LX=05f9 FTP/LX=08a9 CCmail=bf00 Comm=b2001 Heart&Bones=c300 BlackJackt=6200 TigerFox=6300 Sol=6500 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:02:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stanley, John L." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stanley, John L." Subject: "We (don't) have A Winner!" Comments: To: "webmaster@palmtop.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I object to the "We have a winner" notice on the main www.palmtop.net page. While the utility Juha Husgafvel wrote is nice, it's only about a third of what Ron Tatham's challenge requires. Juha did _NOT_ write a "a fast, simple synchronization program to go between the HP 200LX calendar program and MS Outlook". He only wrote an Outlook export program that saves data in adb format. That's a far cry from a full synchronization program... While I applaud Juha's work, let's not jump the gun and throw away what Ron has so generously donated to the HPLX community before the real thing is created. Regards, ... John L. Stanley ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:15:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Scheffler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Scheffler Subject: Re: "We (don't) have A Winner!" Comments: To: "Stanley, John L." In-Reply-To: <92C6CDA989B8D2118D59006008BD51AF18A6C8@rc.addcoinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > While I applaud Juha's work, let's not jump the gun and throw away what >Ron has so generously donated to the HPLX community before the real thing is >created. Given that it's Ron's challenge, it should be kept in perspective that it is, after all, Ron's judgement call. I'm certain Mitch would not have put up such an announcement if Ron hadn't pronounced a winner. R. James Scheffler -and- Srakkt-Hrairh ****************** "Do you like your spleen? I can make a nice little hat of it for you." -Srakkt-Hrairh http://www.tiac.net/users/srakkt/ E-mail:srakkt@tiac.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:20:51 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Comments: To: Ed Keefe In-Reply-To: <199904291406_MC2-73E6-79F3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Keefe wrote: >The version of CPack that I use won't handle a modified .PDB file if it = has >the .PDB extension. So I rename the .PDB to .GDB and use the database >Xlate/Merge.=20 Hmmm. My version of CPACK can handle modified PDB files fine. I even load them into the database app without renaming them, edit the field layout, and save them all while named .PDB. And it's pretty old - I got it right when the 200LX first came out, and shortly thereafter got an upgrade disk, which I think just fixed some Quicken stuff. Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps. For example, the display of the Note field is only two lines tall, and there's no way to see more than two lines of it at a time. --=20 Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:25:28 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Cameron Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Cameron Organization: None Subject: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've modified the Outlook contacts to HPLX converter so that it now converts in either direction. You can get it at http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html. --=20 Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:56:27 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anand Rao Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anand Rao Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop In-Reply-To: <372b3c6a.30859701@mailhost.cyberramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I use Win NT Workstation on the desktop. The CPACK only runs as a full screen application. A lot of what I store on the 200LX comes not from keyboard input but from 'soft copy' sources. I would very much prefer a convenient way to 'cut and paste' information from other Windows applications into the CPACK ?DB files, that I can then download into the 200LX. Any feasible solution? Many thanks. Anand Rao At 05:20 AM 30-04-1999 Friday +0000, Curtis Cameron wrote: ----------------------------------------------------------------- >Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something >else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH >easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps. For >example, the display of the Note field is only two lines tall, and >there's no way to see more than two lines of it at a time. > >-- >Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:28 -1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Graham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Graham Subject: Jordana offer for HP200LX owners? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently someone post a site where HP and someone else was offering a special deal for HP200 owners to trade up to a Jordana. I thought I book marked the url but can't find it. Can anyone help me out? Aloha - bob \ooo_ -- ............... http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:44:02 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups Comments: To: Fryday Fryday writes: > I have Sofware Carousel, and yesterday I tried running Secure Device. My > questions: > > - Should I run SD in hp.bat or in autoexec.bat? I load the secdev.sys file in my config.sys, and then run login.com on an as-needed basis using DosLine in the sysmgr session, or directly in a DOS sesion. I have an auto-timeout set for 5 minutes. -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:54:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: Vertical Display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > I'm glad that I have to disappoint you: Basically it would add > only a few bytes You seem to completely ignore the fact that with outputting text vertically instead of horizontally, you have only done the simplest part of the work. Also, this only works for the built-in fonts. Please don't give people the illusion that programs could be modified with "only a few bytes" added and then would be able to do everything vertically. That way, your typo will come true and people will be disappointed - and so are the software authors that have to explain why it is not just "adding a few bytes" to change applications. > One other feature are 'clip regions', which > restrict output to a previously defined window. Using it, you > may run several smaller 'virtual screens' within the 640x200 > display. Could be a starting point for frames support in HV. This feature is extensively used by HV. It does not help in any way to display frames though, as it does not increase screen size, but in fact even reduces the few pixels that can be used to render the data. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:20:11 +0930 Reply-To: rwhitby@hplx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: PGP & the LX Comments: To: Jeff Johns Jeff Johns writes: > How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's? I created my public key on the HPLX back in 1996 - can anyone beat that for the earliest public key generated on a HPLX ? If anyone ever wants to send me a secret message, here's my public key. You can check it on my website as well, and David Sargeant has a signed copy of it on his keyring, so you can set up a web of trust through him - of course, that assumes that you can trust David :-) Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024/23EAC0CD 1996/11/22 Rod Whitby Rod Whitby Rod Whitby Rod Whitby -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3ia mQCNAzKV0wwAAAEEAMRDwA4stwq6nQrB2zlae3wEJ6Wvb4TT3UFklBYjlLJIY4r+ PmvyiVpp26Yn/bpzUQ1cDeeJtQ0qSzjYB6MZhCIRm8BUYff8oBKlYYbZ4dDk+mWL Ebi6tHMmrxZ6BUO2RhGdz2U2/gXSWWt8MBUqaogGGkbLUvCBBu/lDz0j6sDNAAUR tB5Sb2QgV2hpdGJ5IDxyd2hpdGJ5QGluYW1lLmNvbT6JAJUDBRA0DUps7+UPPSPq wM0BAaQuA/46NhK60/5W3Jt92poxoOz+cPcSekHWot1jKdABtLgmcQ8AfuTW+Ofl Ncp5x8/wgLv7cXroQqV0yNdgBBWiLEdSLWp7dVS0IpuLF9uFFmpQTJhqgrTjtVdv A6uOfpk9yeNa0mrCWgU1HhvKgoUjOLaaPcT+77dVaDXMuUSjbs9q4LQdUm9kIFdo aXRieSA8cndoaXRieUBocGx4Lm5ldD6JAJUDBRA3GrKm7+UPPSPqwM0BASg8A/9y f9VSC4B64ogiq31hUIFlw8R/FaFZFfnVXbZYkkXbkFRjaVlqeAlI8gfqCBvYLW9q Vv1+QzBF45ASA7NrSnqiKXNf556AaIwvmzAB5JGl38HVbO3FL337fzlrGO+Ui+uI bAIzGr+CZuU443SAr7w4U5epTZ2SVtyk8YI0k/qlmbQlUm9kIFdoaXRieSA8cndo aXRieUBhc2MuY29ycC5tb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEDQNScnv5Q89I+rAzQEBNp0D/RK0 LsTqYuVYX7MPbeAmZdw8d+5uFL5RB6wVzQMAs38hlfBUaLyfIU7blSMwqQY6lT8N eASL+b76G6YrNH/CTMPo1tWeElR3pwDALl911pgRS72gIotkO7WCO35iPMp8dT5q NTofE0y+cNVKGaxUfsT3wD7ireWT5X6e5e8172QTtCxSb2QgV2hpdGJ5IDxSb2Rf V2hpdGJ5LUExMTM3NUBlbWFpbC5tb3QuY29tPokAlQMFEDQNMorv5Q89I+rAzQEB kOkD/j4NHVx78FLWGgr4DSO6FlsZ/k8CHvSWJ2X0087xdH9+lTrTVXAh4bvfakAU V4HD2Q3BIPbPlQsS2d4gGIQhq2pWRJfp/V3zFa7XeLVb54dlB26AaGzgYsyQlScf bs7yfkmCpgUqJ5zefntknQvsbL2DdoElfqOdm4G5ndiGPx1d =IdWU -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@hplx.net -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:47:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Custom replacement for the HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.emjembedded.com/products/single/dimm.html Also, look here for DIMM size computers! But 290 mA for a 33 MHz 386... br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:42:13 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Subject: Re: Custom replacement for the HP200LX Comments: To: "Nickum, Roy H." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >See some of the articles @ http://www.cellcomputing.com > >In particular, one on a custom pilot's replacement for paper charts @ >http://www.cellcomputing.com/third/newswhit3.html Mmm, for the 486GX-16, lowest/least/smallest, its 2.2 W which at 5 V is 440 mA. Way to much to pop in a 200LX, unless somebody patched/augmented the power controller on the LX. The LX case could be machined to accept 5 mm without increasing the thickness of the case. Time on AAs would be 3 hours on 1300 mAh batts. One could run it only in DOS with terminal sw, something like CTTY to connect to the 200LX? Not that I would buy it, I want a colour screen, even like a Game Boy, and a keyboard like a Psion or HPCE! :-) br Franklin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:27:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alchemist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alchemist Subject: Spring Cleaning Sale! Update! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Wow! Im amazed at the response I got to my spring cleaning sale message. Im still in the process of sorting out everyones responses but thought I would send a quick update to the list of whats been sold, and where things stand right now. Ive been handling all responses in the order received, although there are quite a few responses for the remaining Omnibook that I still need to go thru. HP 95lx 512k - Unknown - Awaiting reply. HP 1000cx 2mb - SOLD HP 1000cx 2mb - SOLD HP Omnibook 300 - 20mb Flash Version - SOLD HP Omnibook 300 - 40mb HD Version. I have quite a list of responses on this one, I'll be emailing you in the order received tomorrow. (Fri) Compaq SLT/286 - SOLD Compaq 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, Docking station, Win95, battery, etc. Available. Chaplet 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1.44" floppy notebook. Available. If you are interested in any of the available units, let me know. Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:28:08 -0400 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: avardy@roadrunner.nf.net In-Reply-To: <199904291925.QAA26914@firma.thezone.net> >> You might try writing to the Netmind folks. They have been pretty >> responsive to people's requests so far, from what I can tell. > >Who/ where are they? Netmind is a service that watches a Web page of your choosing, and emails you an alert (potentially including the page's content) when it changes. http://www.netmind.com is the URL. >> P.S. You could maybe set up a timed macro on the LX, have it launch >> something like Lynx, and later retrieve the page from the cache when >> you're ready. > >What's that? Retrieve the page from the cache? Could you >explain? Yes... basically I was just running off into the weeds, doing a bit of "blue-sky" thinking on the off chance it might give someone ideas. Lynx is a simple text-only browser that will run under DOS. Most browsers keep local copies of recent pages in a "cache" directory, so if you go back to that page you don't have to wait for it to reload from the Internet. (I have no idea if Lynx caches or not.) The rest of it isn't really important since it was just theoretical anyway, and you already have a more "real" answer, now that someone has thoughtfully provided the address for the service I was trying to remember. So, basically, I'd recommend ignoring everything I said after "Hello!" 8¬) Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:05:29 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: PIM access on desktop Curtis Cameron writes: > Now the Windows PIM app that others have talked about is something > else. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing much. It's MUCH > easier to use the CPACK apps on a PC than the Windows PIM apps. This probably depends a bit on how you're using them. I prefer the OB version of phonebook on my desktop at work because the only thing I use it for is getting addresses into the Windows clipboard for pasting into letters. The Windows version comes up faster, too. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:57:41 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: PGP & the LX -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jeff Johns writes: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's? > > Jeff > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- I don't use it very often, but am set up to do so. Ted - -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNymahsvQtD75tp5RAQEq6wQAq0gO9S6Tv5zqLWfCO3S/1AN3tD5Ih7WB ww8Pkl7xBni7X2qODfOGWL8mvZKt5aIxdtkl7a3fJGuT4LHKwqliN1IEfrzm33uu 9zgZCN64AJArWAd5v9WKFMyXI/Kf+mcgFfojYfXvhIjn46RektL9EEuPj4ToMfA6 6qRBZOeTDQg= =5Byl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:31:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: "Could not establish connection" Hi All, I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish connection." Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file. Palmtop.com users: Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done wrong? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:06:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: System Manager interference? Hi All, A rather strange thing has happened recently that has presented a minor inconvenience. Upon a ctrl-alt-del reboot into straight DOS, my HP200LX's drives are indeed accessible from my desktop through my network, but as soon as I run "200", my desktop loses access to those drives. I just get the "drive not ready" error. If I then click on the DOS icon in System Manager and immediately exit DOS back to System Manager, my desktop will again be able to access the HP200LX's drives. Maybe I'm mistaken, but this seems to be a new behavior since I tried filer for the first time. Would anyone have any idea how I could get System Manager to revert back to it's previous state in which it did not interfer with my network's ability to access the HP200LX's drives? Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:12:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: "We (don't) have A Winner!" In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990430011535.00801330@pop.tiac.net>; from James Scheffler on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 01:15:35AM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Given that it's Ron's challenge, it should be kept in perspective that it > is, after all, Ron's judgement call. I'm certain Mitch would not have put > up such an announcement if Ron hadn't pronounced a winner. Exactly! Since I coud not be a judge (don't use Outlook calendaring) I started a little Outlook app mailing list and let the guys who contributed to the challenge decide. Ron T. made the final call and I will attach that message here. From: "Ron Tatham" To: "j.h.husgafvel" Cc: , Subject: Re: Outlook to HPLX Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:00:40 -0400 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Hi, I just downloaded your file and it worked very well. I don't use th TODO list so I didn't try that part. the calendar download was great. I will use it for the next few days to scout for bugs but I am really pleased. My sceretary tried it and had no problems. She hit the export button and emailed the resuling appt.abd file (all in 2 minutes)Thank you for this great job. I am Copying Mitch on this e-mail. I will ask him to forward the $250 to you as the first person to meet my challenge. Would you send him your mailing address. thanks again ron This doesn't mean the party's over (witness the valiant efforts of Game Wizard Cameron). It only means that one battle has been won and to the victor go the spoils. :) -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:19:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Jordana offer for HP200LX owners? Comments: To: Bob Graham In-Reply-To: <37294918.C96A4F8D@aloha.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE92E2.22FE2DE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE92E2.22FE2DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Recently someone post a site where HP and someone else was offering a > special deal for HP200 owners to trade up to a Jordana. I thought I book > marked the url but can't find it. Can anyone help me out? > > Aloha - bob \ooo_ http://promotions.hplxdirect.com/ Thanks, Paul Anderson, President, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the results of Information Systems ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE92E2.22FE2DE0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Systems Consulting-Paul Ande___.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Systems Consulting-Paul Ande___.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Anderson;Paul FN:Systems Consulting-Paul Anderson ORG:Systems Consulting TITLE:President NOTE:Maximizing the Results of Information Systems TEL;WORK;VOICE:(860) 627-5393 TEL;WORK;FAX:(860) 627-5393 ADR;WORK:;;89 Main Street;Broad Brook;CT;06016-9701;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:89 Main Street=3D0D=3D0ABroad = Brook, CT 06016-9701=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL: URL:http://www.Systems-Consulting.com EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:Sales@Systems-Consulting.com EMAIL;INTERNET:Support@Systems-Consulting.com REV:19990423T132859Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE92E2.22FE2DE0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:18:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: PGP & the LX Comments: To: Rod Whitby In-Reply-To: <199903301720.PNR01151@hplx.net>; from Rod Whitby on Fri, Apr 30, 1999 at 05:20:11PM +0930 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Quoting Rod Whitby (rwhitby@hplx.net): > I created my public key on the HPLX back in 1996 - can anyone beat that > for the earliest public key generated on a HPLX ? > > Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID > pub 1024/23EAC0CD 1996/11/22 Rod Whitby Yawn! Another PGP newbie... ;) Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID pub 1024/767902BD 1995/09/06 Mitchell Hamm Mitchell B. Hamm -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:24:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" Subject: Re: Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX Comments: To: Eben Rubin In-Reply-To: <37291B4C.7207@pol.net>; from Eben Rubin on Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 10:54:04PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Quoting Eben Rubin (erubin@POL.NET): > Does anyone have any experience with Intuit's "Pocken Quicken Connect"? I use PQ Connect with Quicken 98 almost daily and it works flawlessly. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to find now. At one time, I thought that Inuit would never let their software be developed by other parties, but I see that company called Landware is doing a PQ for the PalmPilot. Maybe there's hope for PQ Connect. ??? -- Mitch SUPER Team ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:36:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Boot sequence on LX In-Reply-To: from "Sputnik" at Apr 29, 99 08:18:14 pm Content-Type: text > now that you asked that question i wonder if SYSTEM COMMANDER would work > on the palmtop... I don't know about SYSTEM COMMANDER, but I have VCOM's earlier product BOOT COMMANDER running on my 200LX. Works like a champ. VCOM doesn't sell or support it anymore, but turns out the folks at MIX Software are still licensed to re-sell it. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:02:40 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hart@CATHOLIC.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Hart Subject: (none) If you wanted another reason to hold off buying a new palmtop look at this: http://www.newscientist.com/cgi- bin/pageserver.cgi?/ns/19990501/newsstory3.html The first stable, shock-proof LCD which keeps its image even when the power is turned off. This could be a great advancement for PDAs. Although it doesn't help us HPLX users, it really means that a whole generation of PDAs now in the market might be obsolete. It also will probably mean an even more pronounced difference in battery life between displays which require a backlight to see the image properly than those that do not. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:15:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Carson, Jon A." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Carson, Jon A." Subject: Re: Spring Cleaning Sale! Update! Comments: To: Alchemist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > -----Original Message----- > From: Alchemist Ýmailto:driden@STLNET.COM¨ > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:28 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Spring Cleaning Sale! Update! > > > All, > > Wow! Im amazed at the response I got to my spring cleaning > sale message. Im > still > in the process of sorting out everyones responses but thought > I would send a > quick > update to the list of whats been sold, and where things stand > right now. > Ive been handling > all responses in the order received, although there are quite a few > responses for the remaining > Omnibook that I still need to go thru. > > HP 95lx 512k - Unknown - Awaiting reply. Well, actually, I was waiting on a reply from you. I originally said I would buy it, but since I did not hear from you, I found a HP100 for almost the same price instead, so you are free to sell your HP95. Sorry. Jon C. > HP 1000cx 2mb - SOLD > HP 1000cx 2mb - SOLD > HP Omnibook 300 - 20mb Flash Version - SOLD > > HP Omnibook 300 - 40mb HD Version. > I have quite a list of responses on this one, I'll be > emailing you in the > order received tomorrow. (Fri) > > Compaq SLT/286 - SOLD > Compaq 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, Docking station, Win95, battery, > etc. Available. > Chaplet 486/25, 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1.44" floppy notebook. Available. > > If you are interested in any of the available units, let me know. > > Thanks, > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ----------------------------------------------- jacarson@addcoinc.com ___..---'~~~`---..___ .-=========================- _______________/ :.::..-~--..___..---~~~' (___________(_||_)____/ /____/___:..::.:::. / NCC-1701 D \_________/ "Engage" ----------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:40:55 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "rutherford b. martin" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "rutherford b. martin" Subject: lx-linux? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here... can you run linux on a beefed up LX? kip _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:43:50 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I creadted the following and saved this as ds14to11.pat f 010d 012c 00 e 02ff 5d m 02f7 030b 02f4 e 0309 41 90 90 e 0407 18 e 041e 5d e 0421 18 m 0416 042a 0413 e 0428 41 90 90 e 056e 0b f 06bd 06e4 00 e 06bd 00 01 01 00 01 n dsp14a.com w q In my config.sys file I have the line device=c:\bin\fontman.exe -b5 -fc:\bin\fontman.ini -d In my autoexec.bat I have the line c:\bin\dsp14a -s11 I have a bin dir on my C drive that has the following files dsp14a.com fontbuf.exe fontman.exe fontman.ini I also have a dir on my C drive called font which has the following files akagi11a.fnt agaki11k.fnt I still can't display Japanese in HV. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? TIA Tony Guzewicz ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:47:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: lx-linux? Comments: To: onefourfive@HOTMAIL.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-28 03:40pm CDT, the following was written: > can you run linux on a beefed up LX? Go to http://minix.hplx.net and download Minix. Jeff *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:12:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Turbo C++ 3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>Turbo C++ 3.0 requires 286+ DOS3.31+ 640k 1MBextended and HD When I was teaching C++, I tried, in vain, to make BC 3.01 (pretty much t= he same as TC 3.0) run on the LX. BC 3.01 was closer to the C++ standards a= t the time. I gave it my best shot at hacking but discovered that there wer= e too many calls to extended memory to cope with. It would be a major task= and not worth the effort since the C++ standards have moved beyond BC 3.0= 1. On the C side, BC2.0 works just as well as BC 3.01, and it works well on= a DS machine. = .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:14:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: System Manager interference? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't know what software you are using to support drive sharing from DOS, however if you have Filer set-up for remote operation it might be the reason for losing the serial port when the App Manager is running. Also try toggling the Serial Port power setting in the Setup utility. Phil > -----Original Message----- > From: John J Vanderstel ÝSMTP:j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM¨ > > Hi All, > > A rather strange thing has happened recently that has presented a minor > inconvenience. Upon a ctrl-alt-del reboot into straight DOS, my HP200LX's > drives are indeed accessible from my desktop through my network, but as > soon as I run "200", my desktop loses access to those drives. I just get > the "drive not ready" error. > > John Vander Stel > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:19:20 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: FLUFF: Anyone know of something like this? Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff wrote: > Oops :) I did leave out some important information. I need something that > will automatically mail me the page at a certain time everyday. I know That's a simple task if you are using Perl and a cron job, just a few lines would do that: #!/bin/env perl use LWP::Simple; $addr= shift (@ARGV) || die "usage: $0
+"; while (defined ($url= shift (@ARGV))) { next unless (defined ($doc= get ($url))); open (MAIL, "|/bin/mail -s '$url' '$addr'")||die; print MAIL $doc; close MAIL; } One of my cron jobs harvests the Palm Pilot edition of a local news paper this way and stores it right into a GDB file which can then be downloaded to the HP-LX for off-line reading. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:30:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , garzNOSPAM@IPROLINK.CH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andreas Garzotto Subject: Re: POST/LX idea MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > But I think it would be more useful to program an > interface between Post/LX and VR than to program > an Post/LX-own vertical reader module. No need for programming. Just add VR=a:\vr\vr.exe $p.$x to the ÝEXTERNAL¨ section of POST.CFG (adjust the path to VR.EXE). Then select a box and choose VR from the menu. Andreas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:28:59 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" You might try setting the speed to 9600 baud in ccmail setup. When I connect with a 14.4k that is the speed I need to connect at otherwise it gives me the same error. John John J Vanderstel writes: > Hi All, > > I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com > web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to > Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at > 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and > waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish > connection." > > Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem > connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the > "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file. > > Palmtop.com users: Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done > wrong? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:55:29 GMT Reply-To: jasonyap@singnet.com.sg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason C H Yap Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 29 Apr 1999 - Special issue In-Reply-To: <199904292347.HAA16865@pisces.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:45:40 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:10:17 +0200 >From: Franklin Eekhout >Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet >>BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for >>1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can = build >>so *really* snazzy stuff with it! I track all the Premier League results with a spreadsheet. The first section has a home(vertical axis) and away (horizontal axis) table that records all the results goal by goal. Subsequent sections compute all the standard parameters (games played, won, drawn, lost, goals for, goals against, goal difference, points) and some indices that I found useful from time to time (goals per game, points dropped, maximum points achievable if remaining games won, percentage points picked up, percentage games won, etc etc etc). I only enter the scores (as in number of goals scored by each team), not even the result since that can be computed just by comparing the goals scored by each side. All else is automated. The best part is the 123 graph, which has all the twenty teams on the left axis, sorted by table position, with lines running across from lower left to upper right showing current points, expected points (based on form to date), and maximum points. This was the main reason why I was so disappointed with Pocket Excel - no charts! jasonyap ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:49:19 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: lx-linux? rutherford b. martin writes: > heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here... > > can you run linux on a beefed up LX? Not Linux--it requires a 486. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:59:51 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: lx-linux? In-Reply-To: <199903300949.PNR01928@bitstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > rutherford b. martin writes: > > heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here... > > > > can you run linux on a beefed up LX? > > Not Linux--it requires a 486. 386, actually. (assuming you want to run the Intel x86 based version, that is) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:01 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , cwbrad@IBM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "C.W. Bradley" Subject: FS 123 v.201 Full Version Hello All, I have the full version Lotus 123 v.201 with diskettes and all documentation in hard case for sale for $15 obo + $5 shipping in US. Reply to cwbrad@ibm.net ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@ibm.net FAX (931)840-0679 Created using OS/2 WARP and MR2/ICE #20166 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:49:49 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jan Allbright Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jan Allbright Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet In-Reply-To: <199904291937.OAA02986x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Jeff Johns wrote: > On 04-29 02:13pm CDT, the following was written: > > > the amateur radio spectrum. This limits connections to about 1200 baud for > > VHF (2Meter). Connections in the higher frequencies allow for faster > > speeds. > > Unless you live in Europe where 9600bps is all the rage . Maybe one here > in the States we can speed it up just a bit. 1200bps functional, but 9600bps > would be much better! > > 73 Jeff W4JEF > > True - true, but for higher speeds you really need to get into the higher freqs. 9600 baud on 440Mhz is easy and there is hardware out there to go higher. Once you get into the Gigs then 56K becomes do-able. Hey - how 'bout amateur laser running OC192????? --- Jan Allbright FF/EMT-B "36-92" - Peyton Volunteer Fire Department KC0BUY - 146.970(-) Ý100Hz PL¨ Col. Springs, CO jan.allbright@usa.net - kc0buy@usa.net SPAMMERS - mail me and get 1,000 copies in return! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:04:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bennett Todd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bennett Todd Subject: using CVS to track backups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, things just got _way_ simpler in my life, now that I'm settling in to a laptop as my main system:-). In particular, Red Hat 5.2 is really happy on my Sony Vaio PCG-505TX, to and including handling my Sandisk 85MB FLASH card in the PCMCIA slot, joy! So my backup script has simplified to: #!/bin/sh progname=`basename $0` die(){ echo "$progname: $*">&2; exit 1; } r=$HOME/hp me=$LOGNAME d=`date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S` mkdir -p $r/a cd $r/a || die "cannot chdir $r/a" export CVSROOT=$r/cvs mkdir -p $CVSROOT test -d $CVSROOT/CVSROOT || cvs init || die "cannot init cvs" test -d /ide/bin || die "cannot find /ide/bin" rsync -vaz --delete /ide/. . cardctl eject cvs -q import -m "Backup of $me HP @ $d" -kb a $me a_$d 2>&1 | \ grep -v '¬ÝUI¨ ' After many happy years with lxtools, it's goodbye; PCMCIA slot compatibility scales a lot better to today's memory sizes. BTW, for non-cvs-ites, that last line is the joyful magic: just point it at the mirror directory, which is very efficiently updated by the rsync command (including tracking deletions), and CVS updates its copy efficiently, using diffs (that work correctly for binary files --- that' the "-kb"), so the cvs archive only grows by the size of the changes, yet you can reach back in time to any previous view of the data. -Bennett ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:00:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Organization: HP200LX User Subject: Re: Really dumb question on packet Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 04-30 10:49am CDT, the following was written: > Hey - how 'bout amateur laser running OC192????? Better yet, how about just more amateur microwave repeaters instead of slow 1200bps AX.25 digipeaters! Jeff W4JEF *--------- Jeff Johns W4JEF - AMSAT# 32615 - QRP-L# 1857 ----------* |jeffj@scott.net w4jef@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: Mir R0MIR-1, AO-27 | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept| |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | *------------------------------------------------------------------* Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v3.05beta) REGISTERED ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:15:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: PGP & the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > How many listmembers are using PGP on their LX's? Me! In conjunction w/ WWW/LX... Here's my key... -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzUhcHkAAAEEAKZc+yPgBCbSwa3T4CS/xqsvLGunPhoT126DxtRcWaL6nyfv sqa8dm9v82huBwuMwnEOIZdvgA8esFKiNihr011DoMzS6CVSUj8S57QWMPjyWGE/ TJcPwy42baajBPEeDFEiIUTySqy1RHaU8x7H5SvRAT84nMqePwZS+4wMxZnBAAUR tCNCaWxsIENoaWxkZXJzIDxjaGlsZGVyc0BnYXJsaWMuY29tPokAnwQQAQEACQUC NkJHHAIEAAAKCRAGUvuMDMWZwb8SA/0ffIfYtJf4qBvhEwyP7lqXeR3NjAgjeaog YTTswbz3XRVeTuDnD26v1nBxc+gBJ1TIx6Uo6dsjKK8ps4LyFy/W2mvRUmcv6lXZ ivwXJVjopoWgjnanTubP0m6hiLRJwC4XvIFy0bfIv6GLPW/GDdT3ZAsAU7VlnvIv nUf2fN2DULQsQmlsbCBDaGlsZGVycyA8YmNoaWxkZXJzQHNldGVuZ2luZWVyaW5n LmNvbT6JAJUDBRA2QkVuBlL7jAzFmcEBAeiGA/9tkanYvJiXNzpcC9NbtRVwZBQd tFgbOFIhfzxzhJOUDYP9NWMjdm3fZohAe04PXFgm7MjQej4LYaUBV+p5eSgvT6ie 1kd+qPGthwGb6GeWnLrf/DX4RpvL0lAjfkobtIn3lKQ1Ahr46W6/yh5FftbWPl2H KBDiQ3itZ3UckNEoqQ=3D=3D =3DWQrd -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:19:55 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Araujo, Isaque G." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Araujo, Isaque G." Subject: Re: lx-linux? Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Well, currently I'm trying to run ELKS (a port of Linux to 8086 processor) and I now that other people is trying too. So as soon as possible we'll have a Linux running on a HP. > -----Original Message----- > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad ÝSMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK¨ > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 12:00 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: lx-linux? > > On Fri, 30 Apr 1999, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > rutherford b. martin writes: > > > heres what is probably a dumb question--hey, im new here... > > > > > > can you run linux on a beefed up LX? > > > > Not Linux--it requires a 486. > > 386, actually. > > (assuming you want to run the Intel x86 based version, that is) > > > Cheers, > > Laust > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:48:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM Subject: Re: TBLX help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need to put tblx.dat in c:\_dat. HTH Ed David Eggins wrote: > >The toolbar appears, but the omly submenu which works is documents. > ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:25:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "LEWIS, KENNETH D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "LEWIS, KENNETH D" Subject: Re: Synchronization w/pocket quicken on the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain FYI... On the Go Software makes a WinCE version of Pocket Quicken shipping with the new HP 680. Ken > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitchell Hamm (N8XS) ÝSMTP:mitch@PALMTOP.NET¨ > >> At one time, I thought that Inuit would never let their software be developed >> by other parties, but I see that company called Landware is doing a PQ for the >> PalmPilot. Maybe there's hope for PQ Connect. ??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:26:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jguenthe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: jguenthe Subject: Re: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways Comments: To: Curtis Cameron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Curtis, Outstanding, and it works to!!!! Now if you can tackle the calendar, you will have a fantastic tool for syncing the 200lx to Outlook. For those who have not tried this, IMHO this is better than the Intellisync tools for the older calendar / schedule products. It works great, is fast and simple to use. I really like the mapping choices built in to the product. I have been able to use the resulting PDB files in both cpack200 and on the 200lx with NO problems at all. Thanks Curtis, please do the calendar and todo lists next. John Guenther 'Ye Olde Pen Maker' ---------- From: Curtis CameronÝSMTP:curtisc1@CYBERRAMP.NET¨ Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 1:25 AM Subject: Outlook Contacts <=> HPLX - new version goes both ways Hi all, I've modified the Outlook contacts to HPLX converter so that it now converts in either direction. You can get it at http://members.aol.com/freewhL44/lxgames.html. -- Curtis Cameron ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:33:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If I recall, one needed very special modem files to use the cc:mail. But I don't really recall much and never, except accidently, fired up cc:mail. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:59:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:43:50 -0400, aguze118 = wrote: > I creadted the following and saved this as ds14to11.pat > > f 010d 012c 00 > e 02ff 5d > m 02f7 030b 02f4 > e 0309 41 90 90 > e 0407 18 > e 041e 5d > e 0421 18 > m 0416 042a 0413 > e 0428 41 90 90 > e 056e 0b > f 06bd 06e4 00 > e 06bd 00 01 01 00 01 > n dsp14a.com > w > q Hi Tony Guzewicz Did you place ds14t011.pat and dsp14.com in the same directory and run: debug dsp14.com < ds14to11.pat Just a thought. HTH Regards, Qman... "Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!" Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:14:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem Comments: To: "support@dasoft.com" Hi all,Avi, Getting a strange error message tyring to use WWW/LX w/ my new Apex Data modem Ý(part of Smart Technologies, acc. to the label) when all the parts get here, I hope to use it w/ my cell phone... for now, I'm just trying land-line access¨. The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem ÝI left my notes outside; so this'll only be close¨. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up. It was something like: "Timeout while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding "D:" Ý"W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact¨. I guessed this was a "wait" time and that the 15 = seconds; then tinkered w/ that number. Tried from 5 to 35 and couldn't get past the error. The modem "returned" that it was getting 28.8; so I put 28800 in that portion of the speed section in the setup, tried other values too..... I'm using AT&F1 as my init. string Ýloading the first of the factory generic default settings¨and think I've tried ATF as well Ýwhich was in there automatically, I think¨ and can't get it to work. All works fine w/ ATF as the init. string and the Creative Labs "Modem Blaster" 'cept it's 14.4. Not sure what else to share here. This may be too specific a problem for the list and I'll accept any suggestions/help offline.... Modem specifics are: Model # 011-20641, v.34 Cellular Ý"Mobile Plus Cellular"¨ Data/FAX modem 33.6/14.4kbps w/ "TX-CEL Throughput-x-cellerator". TIA for any help, tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs, Ft. Hood TX W: 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- There is always a way to do it better... Find it! -- Edison. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:04:11 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Fw: Cashflow spreadsheet Comments: To: fryday@california.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/29/1999 02:30:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM writes: > > BTW, I haven't seen many spreadsheets on S.U.P.E.R., or any add-ins for > 1-2-3. Anyone knows why? I mean, 1-2-3 is extremely powerful: you can build > so *really* snazzy stuff with it! > Have you tried, Lotus in the Lab (58 K) added 12/20/98 Version 1 by Glenn Ouchi Courtesy of The HP Palmtop Paper Lotus in the Lab is a set of Templates and Macros for Lotus applications in the laboratory. Freeware. On the Super site? The 3D graphs on one or two of the sheets really impress. Lynn M. Cavendish ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:29:23 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem > The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem ÝI left my notes outside; so > this'll only be close¨. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit > and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up. It was something like: "Timeout > while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding > "D:" Ý"W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact¨. Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C: ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:37:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katd@CWIX.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Re: Web pages by email MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > send a mail to w3mail@gmd.de with nothing but the text "help" and you = will > get a description about how you can receive web pages by email. > > Quick reference: > > send the text: > > get http://www.yahoo.com > > to the above mentioned mail adress, and you will get the page as an > attachment. > > -goe- Check comp.answers for a faq called something like "Accessing the Internet via Email" by Bob Rankin for similar services. Kat -- K.Deutscher - katd@cwix.com - TheOpr@aol.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:50:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:45:46 +0100 (BST) 29m51s ago ... On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:15:55 -0700 (CST), Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote: > All works fine w/ ATF as the init. string and the Creative Labs "Modem > Blaster" 'cept it's 14.4. Then try the same Baud setting with the Apex as you have with the Creative Labs modem. Regards, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:54:50 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Fw: HP EXM application MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1290805586__" --__next_part__1290805586__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with every word you wrote, Phil. For two years I've been "trying" to get rid of my HP200. I've tried Palm = Pilot Pro & Psion Series 5. I'm still looking at Jornadas 420 & 680. None = has all the good qualities of the 200. When I discovered this mailing list about 2 months ago. I was astonished = how many people felt the same way. It would be fantastic for a replacement= (hardware? software?) to come along, maybe even home grown among the = list members. Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen. I guess within a couple of years a WinCE machine (Jornada?) will arrive = with the same o/s stability, dimensions, keyboard(?), quality and battery = life (double-A's please) as the 200. A DOS emulator will then let us run = all our favourite stuff; a bit like your second wife looking like your = first! Then the 200 can take a well earned rest. Can we all still meet = here and chat though? Phil Drummond wrote: > My remarks are laced in below... --__next_part__1290805586__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) --__next_part__1290805586__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:14:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Re: Japanese DSP1402a file for HV Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sure did. What i've tried as my test is to open HV and try and see if one of the japanese files in the subdir (helpj.htm or homej.htm) can be read offline and I coulldn't read them. Just got the code. however, when I went into filer I had some Japanese texts and was able to view them. Hmmm. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:13:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error message, and my EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't. The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is a few initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough, connecting with Datacomm works with both modems. Go figure... Philippe ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: John J Vanderstel To: Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 4:31 AM Subject: "Could not establish connection" > Hi All, > > I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the Palmtop.com > web site for establishing a free account, but after connecting to > Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 cellular PCMCIA modem at > 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call answered at 14,400 baud" and > waiting a while, I got the error message, "could not establish > connection." > > Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem > connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do have the > "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file. > > Palmtop.com users: Does anyone have a clue as to what I might have done > wrong? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:18:42 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Secure Device, Software Carousel and hang ups Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I was trying to use SDTSR.COM to automate the password logging process. The > tsr is supposed to wait for access to the drive and then automatically ask > for the passphrase. However, it seems to hang the lx after the passphrase > has been entered. There is a warning about using SDTSR with Multitaskers in section 2.8 of the doc. I know that SC is really a task switcher but maybe the warning still applies. cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:20:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Spring Cleaning Sale! update! again. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Well, I think ive finally caught up on everything except the HD omnibook which im maintaining a list of those interested and will email you as I hear from those ahead of you. Heres is a brief rundown of which machines have sold etc. If you are interested in any of the items below (that are available) let me know. HP 95lx 512k $70 (Available) HP1000cx 2mb SOLD! HP1000cx 2mb SOLD! HP Omnibook 300 (20mb Flash) SOLD! HP Omnibook 300 (40mb HD) $150 (Pending, awaiting reply) Compaq SLT/286 SOLD! Compaq LTE Elite 4/40cx, 20mb RAM, TFT screen, Docking Station $350 (Available) Chaplet 486/25 4mb RAM, 120mb HD, 1 pcmcia card slot $150 (Available) 28.8 XJack Cellular ready modems $25 (Available) I also have a couple new items (things keep coming out of the woodwork ). Newton Messagepad 100 $90 + Shipping Newton OS 1.3 640k RAM 1 PCMCIA card slot. 2400b Newton Modem PC Connection Cable Newton Enhancement Pack Disk (Grafitti, Forms, etc), Pocket Quicken, TapWorks, and other software. Any I have 2 desktops that I need to part with if anyone is interested in them: Packard Bell 486/25, 6mb RAM, 100mb HD, keyboard Good Condition. $100+Shipping Ultracomp 386/33, 8mb RAM, 40mb HD, network card, Pro designer II VGA card. $80+Shipping. I have some extra VGA monitors as well. 640x480 VGA Color Monitors $35+shipping. Please send inquiries to driden@stlnet.com. Thanks, Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:34:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wrote: > Why might someone set up > multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP? I can't think of a reason to have multiple instances of an inbox from a single ISP. Well, I just thought of one. Perhaps you want to have one case of the inbox with a very tight restriction on the size of messages that are allowed to be downloads. And have a second inbox for the same ISP that has a much higher (or no) message size limit. Then you could use one mailbox for quick online runs with no large messages allowed and the othe rmainbox could be for getting everything else. Not too practical, but a reason. If someone wanted to seperate incoming mail into categories based on some creteria in the message header, then that is what Filters are for. Do you have a possible reason for having multiple inboxes fro the same ISP? Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:34:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: SCSI/Audio Card was: sound ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > I have a Noteworthy SCSI/Audio card Model NWCOMB02 from Toshiba I strongly doubt that card will work in the palmtop. First of all, the power consumption is probably too high. Most just SCSI cards draw too much power. The "low power consumption" claim by the maker is probably relative to what a notebook can supply, not the little palmtop. The the other just as important factor is the drivers. The PCMCIA controller in the palmtop is not one of the standard ones found in notebooks and the palmtop's ROM does not have drivers for SCSI or audio or any of those other card services that notebooks have. The palmtop's ROM drivers support ATA flash cards, SRAM cards, and modems - that's it. This is why the EXP combo modem/flash card needs it's own driver and why there is only one or two network cards that work in the palmtop. Most NIC's use too much power and all but two have Windows drivers. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:34:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stanleyd@CARROLL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Boot sequence on LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > I have recently read of the bootup sequence on "normal" PC's and was > wondering why we are stuck with DOS5.0 on the LX? What's wrong with DOS 5? What features are you looking for in a different version of DOS? > If the system will recognise Autoexec and Config.sys on a flash card why not > another DOS as well? DOS is booted from ROM on the palmtop. It only looks for the CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT files because those are user configurable. It does not look for an MSDOS.SYS, etc. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:54:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: WWW/LX Problems & Questions Comments: To: stanleyd@CARROLL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Stanley Dobrowski To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, April 30, 1999 5:36 PM Subject: WWW/LX Problems & Questions > wrote: > >> Why might someone set up >> multiple mail boxes? Is there any use for them if you have only one ISP? > Many ISP's offer multiple email accounts now, so they can lure away AOL and Prodigy customers. Prodigy for example gives users 5 email accounts so everyone in the family can use the same ISP but have their own email accounts. Dan driden@stlnet.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:17:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jebuford@MAIL.HAC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph E Buford Subject: Lx built in ccMail MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have a question about using the CCMail built into the Lx. Background: I subscribe to several listserv's, including this one and one on electric vehicles, both as digest. I save the text attachment in the Email I rx from the HPLX-L listserv as a .txt file onto my 200lx using the connectivity pack for reading at my leisure(what leisure?). The problem is that: a: most of the time I don't even rx a digest from the EV listserv, and: b: When I rx a digest, it has 30-50 attachments, each one a message to that list. I've Emailed the person who runs the list ad he says that it must be something in the way my server here at work receives the msg. and that there is no prob with the listserver. Question: 1) Is there any way to transfer a ccMail msg from my email computer to the 200lx? and to view the message with all the attachments using the Built in ccMail? 2) Is there any settings that I can change in Lotus ccMail v6 to get the attachments into 1 file to read as a text file, or 3) Anything I can reference to the EV listserv that will allow them to send all of the digest as 1 attachment? All help appreciated Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 09:31:31 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Boot sequence on LX Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Chris What does BOOT Commander do and what advantages? TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:37:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" Comments: cc: fryday@CALIFORNIA.COM, j_vanderstel@JUNO.COM Message-Id: <19990430233735.GBWB7187@Ý12.72.154.232¨> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 23:37:35 +0000 FWIW, I think I had the same problem with ccMail also. Worked fine without any tweaking on my XJ1144 modem but got that error msg using the XJ3144 modem (a preferred modem cuz it's lower power). I looked up the modem reference and found some things to add to the init string and so made a file called c:\_dat\xj3144.mdm that's based on the built-in d:\_dat\hayes.mdm. I forget what the added settings were for, but it amounted to just one added line. Here's an FC compare of the two files: Comparing files HAYES.MDM and C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM ***** HAYES.MDM HANGUP=ATH0 SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4 ***** C:\_DAT\XJ3144.MDM HANGUP=ATH0 SETUP=AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0 SETUP=ATS0=0Q0X4 ***** I believe the order of the SETUP statements lets me override the original without deleting it... tho I probably should've done so to be neat. You have to use Connect/Settings/ModemFile in ccMail to point to the new inits. Good luck. - Longden >My Megahertz XJ14400 (or something like that) got that error >message, and my EXP ThinFax 1414LXM didn't. >The people at Palmtop.Com don't know why. All they could suggest is >a few initialization strings, to no avail. Strangely enough, >connecting with Datacomm works with both modems. >Go figure... >> I believe that I followed all of the directions given on the >>Palmtop.com web site for establishing a free account, but after >>connecting to Palmtop.com with my HP200LX and Motorola 14.4 >>cellular PCMCIA modem at 14,400 baud, getting the message, "call >>answered at 14,400 baud" and waiting a while, I got the error >>message, "could not establish connection." >> Repeated tries produced the same results. I could hear the modem >> connecting, but after that, nothing would happen at all. I do >>have the "d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1" line in my autoexec.bat file. >> Palmtop.com users: Does anyone have a clue as to what I might >>have done wrong? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:47:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990428091419.00a4d8c0@popmail.mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is the 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:58:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" Pertaining to the Palmtop.com free email service: On Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:33:17 +0000 writes: >If I recall, one needed very special modem files to use the cc:mail. >But I don't really recall much and never, except accidently, fired up >cc:mail. Thanks for sharing that memory. That has helped me to focus in on what I need now. By any chance, do you have any idea where I might find a source for a list of modems with their best init strings for connecting to Palmtop.com? If you don't remember a specific source for that info, I hope that someone else on the list will know. I remember seeing nothing on the palmtop.com site that related in any way to that kind of information. BTW, I'm using the Motorola 14.4 PCMCIA Cellular modem that was designed for use with MC2 flip phones manufactured after 6/92. I can find no model numbers on the modem card, at all. I did get an general information card in the box with this used modem that suggested using the init string of AT\Q3 for Prodigy and said to choose the UDS FasTalk 32x modem from the pick list in the AOL software of that time. I doubt if either online service in that day, used today's standard protocols, but I'll take a look at the HP200LX's modem config file again. If there is a field for an init string in it, I'll go ahead and try it, just to see what happens. Oh... The card also listed the UDS FasTalk 32/42b, UDS FasTalk 32x, and the UDS FAsTalk 32 bx as being compatible. --- quote from a note from Bill --- >I am a happy user of palmtop.com. As I recall I had similar >problems which others helped with - I needed to change the >modem init string in my hayes.mdm file - the current one >which works well for me is: > >AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0 > >I can try to dig up more if that doesn't work > >--Bill I'll try the above init string and see what happens. In the meantime, if you happen to have access to Palmtop.com recommended init strings for particular modems, please use the above description of my modem to look up the recommended init string for it, or just simply pass me the URL where I can find the list so I can look it up myself.. By the way, are you connecting at 14.4 or 28.8? If so, how did you set the baud rate in the CC:Mail setup screen? --- quote from a note from John --- >You might try setting the speed to 9600 baud in ccmail setup. When I connect >with a 14.4k that is the speed I need to connect at otherwise it gives >me the same error. > >John Thanks for the tip. I'll go ahead and see if that setting will allow a connection. If it works, it would be a good temporary workaround, but I'd still hate to be permanently limited to a 9600 baud maximum speed and have to use so much more long distance connection time. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:01:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX Comments: To: David Ball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Is the 95LX Serial Cable compatible with the 200LX? The ORIGINAL 95 cable was not compatible as it only had four connectors. When HP created the 10 pin 100/200 cable, it came with a 10-4 adapter. So, if someone has that NEWER cable, it would be compatible by using the adapter. Also, just for reference. The 95's ac adapter canNOT be used with the 100/200. Altho, the 100/200 could be used with the 95, as I recall. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 01:01:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem ÝI left my notes outside; so > > this'll only be close¨. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit > > and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up. It was something like: "Timeout > > while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding > > "D:" Ý"W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact¨. > > Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C: My guess is "D:" is part of "passworD:" and not a drive reference. There should not be anything in the script that is drive sensitive. The script is W(aiting) for a "D:" from cis. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:14:02 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: 100/200LX adapter to 95lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >When HP created the 10 pin 100/200 cable, it came with a 10-4 adapter. >So, if someone has that NEWER cable, it would be compatible by using the >adapter. I have one of these 10>4 adapter things with no 95lx so if someone could use it I am happy to send it. Please email privately. First in gets it. Freeby. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:25:02 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: "Could not establish connection" > >John > > Thanks for the tip. I'll go ahead and see if that setting will allow a > connection. If it works, it would be a good temporary workaround, but I'd > still hate to be permanently limited to a 9600 baud maximum speed and > have to use so much more long distance connection time. Why your welcome. Annoying people used to send me 500k and 1 meg attachments yet my download times still averaged about 1 to 2 minutes. Even at 9.6k it is fast. I never bothered with the string just used &FS8=6. I found with a 33.6k I could go as fast as fast as I wanted absolutely no problems connecting. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 20:36:29 +0200 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: WWW/LX and the (Smart) ApexData v.34 Modem F. Kaufman writes: > > > The CompuServe Script doesn't like the modem ÝI left my notes outside; so > > > this'll only be close¨. It dials out, tries to connect, then waits for a bit > > > and hits me w/ an error, before hanging up. It was something like: "Timeout > > > while waiting for D:". I do remember poking into the .CFG files and finding > > > "D:" Ý"W=15 D:" (in the www.cgf file) to be exact¨. > > > > Just a guess. Why not try changing the D: to C: > > > My guess is "D:" is part of "passworD:" and not a drive reference. > There should not be anything in the script that is drive sensitive. > > The script is W(aiting) for a "D:" from cis. Sorry about that. It's not the password though its the User for some reason. The password is word: in my script. I have the same D: but it worked fine the last time I logged in. Maybe they changed it. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:37:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David L Sprinkle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David L Sprinkle Subject: Dayton Hamfest Comments: To: "Mitchell Hamm (N8XS)" In-Reply-To: <19990429112206.B13840@palmtop.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: Has there been very much HP200 stuff at previous Dayton Hamfests? If so is there a particular area where the stuff is located, flea market, etc? Are there many list members attending this year? Thanks Dave Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu Indiana University Physics Dept. Swain West Rm. 117 Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:45:17 -0700 Reply-To: patrickwest@uswest.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Various DOS programs at the Cyberexchange in Beaverton Oregon USA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at the Cyberexchange in Beaverton Oregon USA earier today. I saw 1-2-3 r2.4 for $15.99 Micrografx Designer for DOS , $14.95 American Heritage Electronic Dictionary DOS $10.99 Their web address is www.exchangehq.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml