========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:55:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Shopping List software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program for dos for my 200LX. Preferably one that allows you to check off things you have bought. Does anyone know of any software like this. I hate to speak of the dark side, but there was a great one for the palm pilot called jshopper. Thanks all! Brian S =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:24:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: DOS question for PNS on 200lx Comments: cc: tchun@UCLA.EDU Message-Id: <19981101122455.GLMM8489@Ý12.64.36.68¨> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:24:55 +0000 On 1998-10-31 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net >I am trying to configure PNS (point-n-shoot) to run my application >projects off of the Filer application. Unfortunately, I am not >much of a DOS guru. >How do I run a program from DOS with a certain amount of memory >allocated for it, like in the System Manager with c:\bin\myprog. >exe|90 runs the program in 90k instead of using up /all/ of my >system's memory to run a dos program? I'm not a PNS user, but my understanding is that running apps from Filer doesn't give you the option of setting the memory size per app. -Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 07:24:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: cc: kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM Message-Id: <19981101122504.GLMU8489@Ý12.64.36.68¨> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 12:25:04 +0000 On 1998-10-31 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net >Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program >for dos for my 200LX. Preferably one that allows >you to check off things you have bought. Does >anyone know of any software like this. I hate to >speak of the dark side, but there was a great one >for the palm pilot called jshopper. Thanks all! I just use NoteTaker to make a list of items. Alt-F1 is a generic macro of mine that just does Home-Tab, so when I go down my list I simply indent the line item that I've bought. Not great, but simple and I haven't found the need for anything fancier, YMMV. - Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:22:51 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Modem power down MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I found out, that the s24 register on modems holds the time in seconds when the modem powers down if no activity took place for this number of seconds. To read/write this register, use: ats24? ;read current value of s24 ats24=1 ;set timer to 1 sec ats24=1? ;set timer to 1 sec and read current value ati4 ;interesting firmware info The s24 value on my XJ1144 was set to 60 seconds. I reduced it to 1 sec and had no problems until now. However I don't know, if it really saves power. Can someone with hardware skills check that? The s24 register should be available on any modem, it may be read only on some. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:34:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: HP 200 LX Comments: To: smn In-Reply-To: <002e01be054b$7441ada0$1c3837a6@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE0572.676A8F80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE0572.676A8F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suggestion number one - rethink you position Thanks, Systems Consulting 89 Main Street Broad Brook CT 06016-9701 tel:(860)627-5393 fax:(860)627-5393 email: systemsconsulting@csi.com web: http://www.Systems-Consulting.com Maximizing the Results of Information Systems +-----------------------------+ | +-----+ Digitally Enhanced | | |-O-O-| Portrait of: | | | @ | | | | === | Paul Anderson, | | +-\*/-+ President | +-----------------------------+ ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of smn Sent: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:55 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: HP 200 LX Trying to get a message posted. 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE0572.676A8F80-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:46:25 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-01 01:54:58 EST, you write: << Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program for dos for my 200LX. >> In my notetaker application I have an entry called Groceries. In it I have listed all off the things which I buy regularly. It is 2 column format, like this: Ý ¨ bread Ý ¨ eggs Ý x ¨ bacon Ý ¨ coffee etc. (Bacon, of course, being the item marked to buy.) To make the list, after creating the category (F2) and moving to the body of the note, press F3 for full screen notes, so that you can use tabs to seperate the second column, instead of spaces. That way, adding an "X" to the bracket you want does not move the second column. F10 when your done, and you have it. Organize according to personal taste. This has served me very well. Remove the "X" when an item goes into your shopping basket. Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 08:51:55 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: HP 200 LX Comments: To: smn@NEIDER.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-31 22:45:39 EST, you write: << Use the HP200 LX but want to go to Windows. Suggestions? >> Which windows do you mean? Windows 3.0 will run very nicely, if you have adequate memory, and preferably a double speed machine. Windows 3.1 or 98 will require a different platform. Windows CE is not recommended for anyone who is looking for a computer, rather than an electronic phone and appointment book. Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:10:57 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HiLill@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harb Lill Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 1998-10-31 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net >Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program >for dos for my 200LX. Preferably one that allows >you to check off things you have bought. Does >anyone know of any software like this. I hate to >speak of the dark side, but there was a great one >for the palm pilot called jshopper. Thanks all! I just use Lotus. The first column is blank initially, but I type in an "x" when I purchase something on the list in the next column. I like the way I can sort the list. Harb -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:11:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: Brian Sugita MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While I did not ever really use it, Shass (I think).zip on cis (possibly) was available specifically for that purpose. It actually kept on inventory and allowed you to specify which aisles in the market held what foods and did so for more than one market. So it could warn you if you had run out of chocolate or say, chocolate, or dark chocolate! (G) I'm not sure if it ever appeared at the Supersite (Mitch?) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:50:28 +0000 Reply-To: owen6511@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Terry Owen Subject: zip drives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sorry if this is covered anywhere else but is there any way to connect an HP100lx to a Iomega Zip Drive? I realize that it is a parallel interface but thought maybe there were adaptors or something out there. Thanks, Terry Owen owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:19:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Gill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Gill Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've used SHASS for several years now. I think it is one of the best written programs I've seen. (Next to BUDDY) F. Kaufman wrote: > While I did not ever really use it, Shass (I think).zip on cis > (possibly) was available specifically for that purpose. It actually > kept on inventory and allowed you to specify which aisles in the market > held what foods and did so for more than one market. So it could warn > you if you had run out of chocolate or say, chocolate, or dark > chocolate! (G) > > I'm not sure if it ever appeared at the Supersite (Mitch?) > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:41:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Arturo Galindo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Arturo Galindo Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 30 Oct 1998 to 31 Oct 1998 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, Jornada its a spanish used in all the spanish speaking countries, word meaning -Journey- something as parth of the way one walks in one journey- (work day perhaps?) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:50:29 +0000 Reply-To: owen6511@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Terry Owen Subject: Semi-OT - Word 5.5/Dos question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sorry to bother the whole list, but I recall someone here mentioning using Word 5.5 and I have a question on setup if that person could email me privately. (I have it set up to run on my desktop 1.4 floppy with B/W LCD but when I copy this set of files to a pcmcia card and try to run on the hp100lx, it asks me for disk2!) OTOH, while I like MS Word for Dos alot - has anyone had any experience running WP5.1 on the HP100lx? Thanks, Terry Owen -=-=- owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 16:34:07 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It's funny that this came up now. Just yesterday, I created a little database file in preparation for our winter boating cruise in Florida. It's a combination of shopping list, todo, inventory, etc. I, appropriately, named it 'Stuff". If anyone is interested, I will delete the few items already in and send it over. Mikhail > << Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program > for dos for my 200LX. >> > > In my notetaker application I have an entry called Groceries. In it I have > listed all off the things which I buy regularly. It is 2 column format, like > this: -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:51:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brian & All: 09h48m05s ago ... On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Brian Sugita wrote: > Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program > for dos for my 200LX... There is a program called "Shopping Assistant" that I got from "EDDIE". The file is SHASS.ZIP. If you can't find it, drop me a note and I'll send you a copy. I haven't really used it, so I can't comment on how useful it is, but I did remember I downloaded it a while back ;-) Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:33:05 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: DOS question for PNS on 200lx Comments: To: Terrence Chun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In your SYSTEM settings, you can select how much memory DOS will have... this should also work for when running porgrams from Filer. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Terrence Chun To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 7:27 PM Subject: DOS question for PNS on 200lx >Hi all, > >I am trying to configure PNS (point-n-shoot) to run my application projects >off of the Filer application. Unfortunately, I am not much of a DOS guru. > >How do I run a program from DOS with a certain amount of memory allocated >for it, like in the System Manager with c:\bin\myprog.exe|90 runs the >program in 90k instead of using up /all/ of my system's memory to run a dos >program? > >Thanks! > >-- Terry > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:40:27 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: zip drives Comments: To: owen6511@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The current ZIP driver doesn't work with the 200LX (at least from my experience), but that should definitely be something placed on the "Cool programs to develope for the 200LX"-list . =) Does anyone know how hard a 200LX compatible DOS driver for the Iomega ZIP drive would be? I'm thinking the current DOS ZIP drive driver uses 286 code (since it ran on my 286, but not my 200LX)... isn't there a simple converter utility out there that will convert 286, 386, or 486 code to 80C186 (200LX)? I thought I saw a utility on the SUPER site that did this... (I think it also converted VGA programs to CGA). Tony =) -----Original Message----- From: Terry Owen To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 8:06 AM Subject: zip drives Sorry if this is covered anywhere else but is there any way to connect an HP100lx to a Iomega Zip Drive? I realize that it is a parallel interface but thought maybe there were adaptors or something out there. Thanks, Terry Owen owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:42:48 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mikhail, I would really appreciate a copy of the file....TIA Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 14:38:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Auto-acknowledge in my Post/LX outbox. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:46:15 -0500 (EST) Hi group- Here's a curiosity... I got an email message from a guy I know from a different (non-computer) discussion list. The weird thing is that besides the personal message there was an acknowledgement message addressed to him (from me) in my Post/LX outbox. I may be a little eccentric, but I know that I didn't write it... Any idea how the @#$¬& this is done? If friends can append material to my files, what's to stop malicious pranksters from screwing up other files using the same technique?? Very strange. -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:08:14 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Lawrence Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brian Sugita To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Sunday, 1 November 1998 19:55 Subject: Shopping List software >Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program >for dos for my 200LX. Preferably one that allows >you to check off things you have bought. Does >anyone know of any software like this. I hate to >speak of the dark side, but there was a great one >for the palm pilot called jshopper. Thanks all! > >Brian S This is an open letter to all and to mitch of super, there is a shareware program on the thaddeus cdrom called shass for shopping assistant. Could I upload it to super? It is written for the palmtop and is an extremely good shoppping list manager, even as far as keeping separate stores prices so you can spread your shopping over different outlets. Following from readme file: 1. WHAT IS SHASS? ----------------- Shass helps you organize and automate tasks related to (grocery) shopping. These tasks include maintaining an inventory of items and coupons, deciding what and how much you need to buy, making a shopping list, and keeping track of your shopping while in the grocery stores. Shass is particularly tailored to the Hewlett Packard's HP100LX palmtop by utilizing its 64X18 screen and special keys. However, it can be run without any problems or limitations on any industry standard DOS computer. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:54:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Re: Shopping List software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, thanks for all the suggestions and ideas! :) Brian S =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:35:45 GMT Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Shopping List software In message , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET said: > > I just use NoteTaker to make a list of items. Alt-F1 is a generic macro of > mine that just does Home-Tab, so when I go down my list I simply indent > the line item that I've bought. Not great, but simple and I haven't found > the need for anything fancier, YMMV. My approach is similar, but I write my list as a note added to a to-do item. Ted Heise -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:18:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alexander Stanovoy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alexander Stanovoy Subject: Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT Comments: To: Tony Olsen In-Reply-To: <003d01be0501$09b95680$08c8260a@ferris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, Tony Olsen wrote: if touch screen problem on www.palmax.com there are same thing with touch screen. Alex. > What do you guys think? (This isn't an HPLX issue, but it's more a > WindowsCE versus "REAL" computer issue, which has been mentioned a lot > here). > > Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: new_user@email.msn.com > Newsgroups: > comp.sys.handhelds,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen > Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:59 AM > Subject: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT > > > >I don't get it... When you compare the Libretto 50CT and the new HP660LX, > >why would anyone go with WindowsCE when they can have the real Windows95 or > >Windows98. > > > >HP660LX Libretto 50CT > >-------------- ------------------- > >WindowsCE Windows95 (or even 98) > >$800-$900 $800-$900 > >both libretto and hp660lx are close to the same size > >2.5 hour battery life 2.5 hour battery life > >32MB RAM 32MB RAM > >no harddrive 810MB harddrive > >56K modem 56K PCMCIA modem/Ethernet combo > >Instant On Sleep Mode > >Touch Screen No Touch Screen > >256 colors 65,000 colors > >640x240 pixels 640x480 pixels (and can scroll to 1024x768 pixels) > >sound card audio sound card audio > >can record can't record > >PCMCIA type II PCMCIA type II (a 2nd PCMCIA with the docking > >station) > >Seriel Port Seriel Port > >No Parallel Port Parallel Port > >Fast bootup 1-2 minute Windows95/98 bootup > >IR port IR port > >Can't run extra hardware Can run extra hardware... External storage, > >scanners, video cameras, etc... > > > >Looking at this... why would anyone choose the HP660LX when you can get the > >Libretto 50CT for the same price? The only thing the HP660LX offers that > >the Libretto doesn't have are: audio recording, touch screen, fast bootup. > >Everything else, the Libretto offers tons more. The biggest thing I see if > >that the HP660LX was made to run WITH a real computer, but the Libretto IS > a > >real computer... People who have Librettos and WindowsCE machines sync up > >their data in their WindowsCE machines with their Librettos.... in other > >words, the Libretto is supperior. > > > >What does everyone else think? > > > > Tony Olsen > > ferris@myself.com > > > >P.S. E-mail me personally as well as the newsgroup... > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Alexander Stanovoy Internet and Intranet services developer and administrator Lietelija Ltd., Juozapaviciaus 6/2, Vilnius 2005, Lithuania Phone: +370-2-730970; FAX:+370-2-730959; Mobile:+370-99-14421 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:36:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stephen Petty Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephen Petty Subject: EXM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would someone explain what a *.exm program is and how they are used? Best Regards. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:50:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Auto-acknowledge in my Post/LX outbox. Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > besides the personal message there was an acknowledgement message > addressed to him (from me) in my Post/LX outbox. I may be a little > eccentric, but I know that I didn't write it... Well, I don't know how eccentric you are but that is a new feature of POST. The other side can trigger it by doing something like "send receipt when retrieved" and POST will acknowledge. There is a line in cfg to turn it off - I, too, don't want my software telling anybody I got their email. ..... It maybe this line in system: ÝSYSTEM¨ Editor=d:\bin\qe.exe $f EditSM=MEMO b800 c800 2166 0231 ******Confirmation=0********* It would begin at left margin, I just ** it. Yup, that's it, here's the gist from Andreas: ""- Return-Receipt-To: is now also considered as a header containing an email address. - Fixed bug that sometimes led to a memory corruption after going online (the hangup code accessed the CFG data, which was not available at that time) - Unless Confirmation=0 is found in the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of POST.CFG, a delivery confirmation is now automatically placed in the outbox when a message with a Return-Receipt-To: header is received. "" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:09:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Ericssom Interface Card In-Reply-To: <199810312147.WAA14263@mb05.swip.net> from "Goran Johansson" at Oct 31, 98 10:47:50 pm Content-Type: text Goran: Thanks for the reply. I have the CF388 phone, and am condsidering getting this card (DC23). > I am using the DC23 with Post/LX and Qfax. I have an Ericsson GH688 > phone. Previously used the DC12 with my old GH388. > > What do you want to know? Well, let's see.... what did you pay for this thing? My local store wants about $400 for it. That's an amazing price for what I understand it to be. I can buy an analog modem for under $40, which is a far more complicated piece of electronics than Ericsson's data format adaptor. I am just bowled over by the price they want for it, that's all. Since you also use it in your 200LX, you obviously aren't using the provided software. Were you able to get any discount from Ericsson or the supplier for a stripped-down unit - say hardware only? They advertise on the web page (Ericsson's, that is) that the DC-23 is Windows and DOS compatible. Is there any provided DOS software that allow one to interact with the phone, or just Windows ones? Do you even need any software? I have just about convinced myself that the card looks to my DOS computer just like any other FAX/modem. Besides data communications over a modem to your ISP, and FAXing, what additional services do you get using this card? Do you use? Can you elaborate what exactly SMS is all about? Is this something that you do/can utilize with the card? That's about all my questions. Should keep you busy typing for at least five minutes... Thanks for you offer to help. I look forward to hearing from you. I'm in no rush, as my local company's system won't be ready for data until another month or so... Thanks, -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:42:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bbicioglu1@MMM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Looking For FCL Font Compiler Comments: To: as_arpaci@hotmail.com, tayfun@doruk.net.tr, ybuyukberber@superonline.com, cengiz@mail.egsgg.com.tr, makro@sim.net.tr, ahmeto@ankara.datasel.com.tr, ago@ibm.net, tansuy@microsoft.com, ekinci@aha.ru, kompusan@kompusan.com.tr, tayfun@doruk.net.tr, raufar@turk.net, ramazan.yildiz@mensoy.com.tr, koman@mag.net.tr, nolgacay@superonline.com, myetkin@superonline.com, devirfinans@turk.net, lsisman@hotmail.com, oznoyan@turk.net, khorasanli@superonline.com, matrix@superonline.com, izzet@sarkhayat.com.tr, hgonullu@homestudio.com, ftulek@eti.ato.org.tr, baysuf@doruk.com.tr, fakin@cisco.com, faruk.t@atlas.net.tr, tabanco@online.tm, barisc@microsoft.com, anilta@superonline.com, bahara@doruk.com.tr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I want to use FCL font compiler to create my own PIM charactersas Cyrille Danes did with his CYD.COM. Can anybody help me to find the compiler CYD with its usage instruction. Thanx... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:44:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Windows 3.0 Disks When in a local secondhand software shop today, I discovered that they had an orginal set of Windows 3.0 disks. They are in 5-1/4" format and from they labels on them they are a Gateway 2000 distribution version. The Gateway part shouldn't matter, they probably just contain some kind of Gateway wallpaper or screensaver. The software shop wil ship these items. Their web page can be located at www.softwaresequels.com The disks are listed on their online inventory, but they are there, I think the price on the disks was $20.00. I already have a set of 3.0 disks, but thought someone else on the list might want to order them. Have fun..... 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:47:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Auto-acknowledge in my Post/LX outbox. Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:58:49 -0500 (EST) 02h08m28s ago ... On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, F. Kaufman wrote: > that is a new feature of > POST. The other side can trigger it by doing something like "send > receipt when retrieved" and POST will acknowledge. There is a line in > cfg to turn it off > ÝSYSTEM¨ > Editor=3Dd:\bin\qe.exe $f > EditSM=3DMEMO b800 c800 2166 0231 > ******Confirmation=3D0********* Thanks. I thought that maybe that it was a new "feature" in my friend's M$ software. Glad to know it's a configureable option in Post/LX. I'm gonna put that line in the .cfg file. Thanks again... -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:13:22 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hyunsoo KIM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hyunsoo KIM Subject: GEOS operating system usage... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! peoples... I have got a GEOS OS for PC 1991 version. And I have it installed susccesfully on my HP200LX palmtop and it does working very good. The only problem is the lack of a versatile keyboard control. So my question is: -Is this a good and stable OS for HPLX? -Anyone know how load .txt file to GEOS Word app? -Is GEOS considered an abandonware? TIA Pablo KIM -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:18:32 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hyunsoo KIM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hyunsoo KIM Subject: Nokia 9000 series cellular phone. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! peoples... Anyone can tell me the US price of a Nokia 9000 Communicator cell phone? And where can this be get in the USA? I have "surfed" on the Intenet but I get a lot of European sites and nothing about the US sites. Thank you!!! Pablo KIM -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:58:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Semi-OT - Word 5.5/Dos question Comments: To: Terry Owen In-Reply-To: <199811011642.IAA22855@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Terry Owen wrote: > OTOH, while I like MS Word for Dos alot - has anyone had any > experience running WP5.1 on the HP100lx? It runs fine on a 200lx. Even screen extender Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:29:32 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: South Park video for lx? Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I think South Park would be perfect for an lx video! > > The graphics are simple, so it should compress well; and I think you > could get the gist of the swearing despite it being distorted. > > I'm hoping this will inspire someone who doesn't have exams right now = . > A short snippet of Cartman being selfish? > > "I can't possibly eat all this delicious chocolate cake all by myself > Ýlong pause¨ oh, maybe I can" > > It would be very cool. > > -- You talkin EVA format? that would be good kwality. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:57:14 -0500 Reply-To: 82gntrbo@sgi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan McCann <82gntrbo@SGI.NET> Organization: O.G.S. Distributing Subject: Question on $10 ISA-PCMCIA Card readers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I bought one of these readers, but can't seem to make it work. Anyone been able to make it work under Windows NT Workstation 4.0? If so, what drivers need be installed and where do I find them? Dan McCann -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:53:09 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT In-Reply-To: from "Alexander Stanovoy" at Nov 1, 98 11:18:43 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >HP660LX Libretto 50CT > > >-------------- ------------------- > > >WindowsCE Windows95 (or even 98) > > >$800-$900 $800-$900 > > >both libretto and hp660lx are close to the same size > > >2.5 hour battery life 2.5 hour battery life > > >32MB RAM 32MB RAM > > >no harddrive 810MB harddrive I agree. But a question about the Libretto in its own right: What's the processor speed of the Libretto 50CT? It'd be great for DOS; but I'm not sure if it could run the recent bloatware at full speed. Ie you really need a Pentium II 200Mhz for Win 95... A'course, the Libretto could also run ... linux! > > >sound card audio sound card audio What's the sound quality like on the Libretto? Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps) tiattsiawcoms www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:24:25 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: 200Lx vs. Palm Input (Was Re: IBM PC110?) In-Reply-To: <363957E0.4EA9D0B8@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Oct 30, 98 01:08:32 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ... I find it *much* easier to scribble ideas and notes down (on paper) > Certainly. On the other hand it takes me a lot longer to paw through > the several thousand little scraps of paper that are scattered all > over my house than it does to get any of my computers to search > lots of megabytes. A'course, the fact of your thousands of scraps of paper tells its own story . Paper must have some great advantage to offset the tortures of searching for it... Here's a funky idea to turn the keyboard limitation of the lx to advantage: Use the entire lx keyboard as a touch pad. Try running your finger across it, stroking it left to right. You can imagine a line being drawn on the screen, as if you were using a trackball... Vertical motion could be similarly captured; and even the angle of diagonal movements could also be recorded with precision. Additionally, the *speed* of these strokes could be ascertained - perhaps a faster stroke could represent a thicker and bolder ... brushstroke? -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:38:39 +0800 Reply-To: Richard Zuluaga Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Zuluaga Subject: Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Libretto 50CT is not to good but check out the Libretto 100CT at this website. http://www.winmag.com/library/1998/0701/Rev0029.htm -----Original Message----- > >What's the processor speed of the Libretto 50CT? It'd be great for DOS; >but I'm not sure if it could run the recent bloatware at full speed. >Ie you really need a Pentium II 200Mhz for Win 95... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:17:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Turbo C++ V 1.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know where I can get an English version of Turbo C++? I downloaded a copy from Comports.com/hplx but the help files, etc. are in French. TIA Tony Guzewicz -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:23:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: Auto-acknowledge in my Post/LX outbox. Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Here's a curiosity... I got an email message from a guy I know from a > different (non-computer) discussion list. The weird thing is that > besides the personal message there was an acknowledgement message > addressed to him (from me) in my Post/LX outbox. I may be a little > eccentric, but I know that I didn't write it... > > Any idea how the @#$¬& this is done? If friends can append material to > my files, what's to stop malicious pranksters from screwing up other > files using the same technique?? It is nothing sneaky or bad. The newest version of the POST program in the WWW/LX package from D&A Software is responding to a Return-Receipt-To: header in the Email message you got. There is no real mechanism over the Internet Email for acknowledging that someone received a message, but there is this Return-Receipt-To header that some Email programs can respond to with an acknowledgement. Post now supports this. So, have no fear that someone else is causing secret stuff to be sent out your Outbox - just an acknowledgement of receipt of an Email message. If you don't want the acknowledgement sent, then just delete it from the Outbox. I expect there is also a way to turn off this feature completely, but I can't remember the POST.CFG file option off hand. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:22:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I purchased a SimpleTech compact flash, 48 meg and found my battery = life > went down to about 1 hour. (According to ABC/LX battery usage timer). > > I then had the merchant send me a Viking card and have found the same > results. I played it safe with a Sandisk brand 40MB Compact Flash card with adapter to go into my 200LX. And after hearing stories such as yours, I am glad I did. It works perfectly, is fast! and I have not seen any reduction in battery life compared to my ACE Technologies DoubleFlash Plus 20MB card or an older Sundisk 10MB card. I get about 15 hours between charges from 2 year old NiMH batteries. I put a high value on my piece of mind and that is why I did not have a problem paying a few bucks more for the Sandisk brand. BTW, I do not work for Sandisk or own any of their stock - I just happen to believe they make the best flash cards. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:26:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , aguze118 Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: aguze118 Subject: Dosshell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Does anyone know where I can find the files for Dosshell? TIA Tony Guzewicz -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:48:31 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Anyone live in New Yoik 8-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Questions 8-) 1. Does anyone live in the New York area? 2. Does anyone in the New York area sell 16Mb Sandisk compact Flash? 3. If so how much? (item 2) The reason I ask is that I'm trying to put a deal together selling numerous Psion II stuff to a guy in the NY area. I thought if I could find a trusty HPLX subscriber in the area to act as an intermediate I could do a cash or goods (16Mb CF) exchange, prepared to pay a small commission for services rendered (if it all comes off 8-) ). Funds being re-invested in my HP200LX of course! Best regards.......Liam Bunbury, Western Australia -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:16:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: LX brand dropped for Jornada, sound for the LX, DOOM. Hello all, Knowing that LX stands for "Lotus eXpendable", what is the opinion of bigblue IBM (Lotus owner) about the name change? That's a shame! But it's great news for this community, because the 1/2/700/1000 remains called the same LX and not mistaken for that WinCE stuff. I've got an idea for voice on the LX platform, uses the OGO700LX. Notice, some newer microcasette devices (eg. Olympus Palmcorders) are not bigger than a Nokia 2110. I think you could fit one into the piggyback slot. It can record and store useful amount of high qua- lity sound (up to 2x30 min). Get that Japan design sound recorder modification for HPLX. So you can attach small voice clips to email or do sound editing on the HPLX, using the prerecorded signal from the palmcorder. Storage of audio material is done by the casette player, more effective than the HPLX RAM w/o hardware compression. Or use the casette as a file backup, like the old C-64 or the first IBM PC with MS-DOS 1.0; using the LX speaker redirected via 2,5mm HPLX jack implant to the 'corder's Line-In. Nice for 260MB flash! Even the operating of this combo can be simplyfied. Some 'corders are remote controllable, so you may be able to drive it via RS-232 and do play/record w/o pressing a single button. You can also swap it for the phone, when not needed and use the 'corder as a stand-alone unit. That's a perfect marriage of analog and digital technology (c) Oce' I do think that backlight will be available on the OGO700LX sooner, larger shell allows for less sophisticated (bulky) constructions. At least, it could serve as a prototype platform. BTW, there is a small (60kb) pool game (green tabletop, ivory balls) called PCPOOL. It is completely keyboard operated, can have 1 to 4 players (inc. robots w/ 3 skill levels). Runs at reasonable speed on XT and nice for screen saver purposes as well. Driller, Darkside, Total Eclipse If you have one of these old games by Incentive Corp. please try and comment how it feels on your 1x/2x palmtop. The 3D technology they used is called 'FreeScape' and there is some chance that source will be dropped sometimes by EIDOS (who only care for Lara Croft, BTW). I do think this engine would allow for a DOOM lookalike, that is at least playable on a double-speed LX. Controls for Darkside: to quit, sound/load/save forward(up)-backwards(down)-right-left, <5> fire, move/aim mode change, u-turn, stand up/lift-off, duck/ descend,

look up, look down, jet-pack on/off, for step size and turn speed settings. If you were the one I mailed about the Bicom260i, please e-mail me! Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:54:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: FlashDisk & power consumption Comments: To: owensam@HOM.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen, I bought one of the Viking Cards from Shore systems- 48Mb for under $200. I also found that my battery life went down. I use NiMh rechargeables, and my "min spec" is that I be able to use my LX over the course of the day without getting the "low battery" warning. I plug my LX in at my desk at work and unplug it to take it with me. I found the Viking card, while very convenient with its big storage, reduced battery life beloew my min spec. Right now I carry the 48Mb with me in the day timer that I have my LX velcroed into, and keep the 10Mb disk that I had (HP's cover of Sundisk brand) in the unit with my "essential" programs. I then plug in the viking whenever I want to do a backup or run one of my lessential programs. I hope that some day Stefan Peichl will do TSR to fix power draw issue with the viking card. I am willing to pitch in $10/$20 to make that happen! Iwth battery life improved I would be able to live on flashdisk alone. Right now the 32Mb internal upgrade is still bit too much moolah for me. Hope this is of use to you. Brian -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:10:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: IR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "R. Christopher Lott" No, The AT keboard is clocked through an open collector line. The line can be driven by either the computer or the keyboard. As both the keyboard and the computer must listen to both the clock and the data, a stop bit is the simplist interface. Steve >> The standard 5 pin keyboard interface has transmit, receive, +5 volts, >> ground, and clock. Keyboards are _synchronous_. > Interesting. Seems like I have heard this before. However, that > would mean the (formerly) revered Undocumented PC is in error?!?! >> > >> >> Also there should be a clock line to synchronize the data. >> >> >> >> > "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit >> >> >data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key- >> >> >board. >> > -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:35:57 -0700 Reply-To: Clyde Best Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Clyde Best Organization: Campbell Scientific, Inc. Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I use Lotus for this purpose, too. I enter prices and quantity as I go along. I have Lotus continuously totalling my bill so that I can stay within budget *and* have a second opinion on the cash register receipt. Also, keeping a record of prices is handy in planning for the next shopping trip. Of course, I might be a bit of a fanatic when it comes to using my 200LX! ;) Best regards, clyde bestbunch@usa.net >>Hi all, I'm looking for a good >>shopping list program for dos >>for my 200LX. Preferably one >>that allows ÝSNIP¨ÝSNIP¨ >I just use Lotus. The first >column is blank initially, but I >type in an "x" when I purchase >something on the list in the next >column. I like the way I can >sort the list. Harb ÝSNIP¨ÝSNIP¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:38:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Several people ask that I provide Win 3.0 on my page, where I have already provided win 2.x with word/excel/draw, etc. Please remember two things: 1) Win 2.x runs the same applications that win 3.0, the only advantage of 3.0 being that on a 286+ it can run standard and enhanced mode. (Not possible on the LX) 2) Win 2.x installs smaller than 3.0. What reasons do you all want 3.0 when 2.x serves just as well? Good justification will convince me to remove 2.x and put up 3.0... ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:22:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Good prices on SANDISK cards In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Check out this site and search for SANDISK. They have some good prices on the flashcards which don't seem to hurt battery life as bad as the Simple or Viking cards. http://www.techstore.com/ Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:01:51 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Searching for good ISP for Goin' Postal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE0637.0CCBBFC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE0637.0CCBBFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm currently using MSN for my Insternet Service Provider (ISP) (*Gasp!* = *Sigh!* NOOO!!), but it doesn't support DNS configuration, which Goin' = Postal apparently needs to run... Also it needs to establish a PPP = connection. What ISP out there supports this stuff? What are all of you out there = using with Goin' Postal? ...Which ISP should I switch to? (I've been = wanting to switch from MSN for a while now anyways because of some = anal-retentivenss it has) Thanks, =3D) Tony ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE0637.0CCBBFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm currently using MSN for my = Insternet Service=20 Provider (ISP) (*Gasp!*  *Sigh!*  NOOO!!), but it doesn't = support DNS=20 configuration, which Goin' Postal apparently needs to run...  Also = it needs=20 to establish a PPP connection.
 
What ISP out there supports this = stuff? =20 What are all of you out there using with Goin' Postal?  ...Which = ISP should=20 I switch to?  (I've been wanting to switch from MSN for a while now = anyways=20 because of some anal-retentivenss it has)
 
Thanks,  =3D)
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE0637.0CCBBFC0-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:04:01 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Libretto 50CT runs a 75MHz Pentium, and it can be overclocked to 120+MHz... I'm running Windows98-bloatware, and it runs fine on this... the 75-MHz is fast enough for everything I need... including Internet Video Phone, MP3 players, etc... Tony =) -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Macmillan To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT >> > >HP660LX Libretto 50CT >> > >-------------- ------------------- >> > >WindowsCE Windows95 (or even 98) >> > >$800-$900 $800-$900 >> > >both libretto and hp660lx are close to the same size >> > >2.5 hour battery life 2.5 hour battery life >> > >32MB RAM 32MB RAM >> > >no harddrive 810MB harddrive > >I agree. But a question about the Libretto in its own right: > >What's the processor speed of the Libretto 50CT? It'd be great for DOS; >but I'm not sure if it could run the recent bloatware at full speed. >Ie you really need a Pentium II 200Mhz for Win 95... > >A'course, the Libretto could also run ... linux! > >> > >sound card audio sound card audio >What's the sound quality like on the Libretto? > > > >Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 > Law thesis (pdf, ps) tiattsiawcoms www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:05:57 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: 200Lx vs. Palm Input (Was Re: IBM PC110?) Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While I think that's a really cool original idea, I'd fear the keys would get abused in this manner. You'd end up ruining you keyboard... -----Original Message----- From: Brendan Macmillan To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 11:25 PM Subject: Re: 200Lx vs. Palm Input (Was Re: IBM PC110?) >> > ... I find it *much* easier to scribble ideas and notes down (on paper) > >> Certainly. On the other hand it takes me a lot longer to paw through >> the several thousand little scraps of paper that are scattered all >> over my house than it does to get any of my computers to search >> lots of megabytes. > >A'course, the fact of your thousands of scraps of paper tells its own >story . Paper must have some great advantage to offset the tortures >of searching for it... > >Here's a funky idea to turn the keyboard limitation of the lx to advantage: > > Use the entire lx keyboard as a touch pad. > >Try running your finger across it, stroking it left to right. You can >imagine a line being drawn on the screen, as if you were using a >trackball... Vertical motion could be similarly captured; and even the >angle of diagonal movements could also be recorded with precision. > >Additionally, the *speed* of these strokes could be ascertained - >perhaps a faster stroke could represent a thicker and bolder ... >brushstroke? > > >-- >Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 > Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:13:56 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card Comments: To: stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the difference between "SanDisk" and "SunDisk"? Are they the same company? Tony -----Original Message----- From: Stanley Dobrowski To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 AM Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card > I purchased a SimpleTech compact flash, 48 meg and found my battery life > went down to about 1 hour. (According to ABC/LX battery usage timer). > > I then had the merchant send me a Viking card and have found the same > results. I played it safe with a Sandisk brand 40MB Compact Flash card with adapter to go into my 200LX. And after hearing stories such as yours, I am glad I did. It works perfectly, is fast! and I have not seen any reduction in battery life compared to my ACE Technologies DoubleFlash Plus 20MB card or an older Sundisk 10MB card. I get about 15 hours between charges from 2 year old NiMH batteries. I put a high value on my piece of mind and that is why I did not have a problem paying a few bucks more for the Sandisk brand. BTW, I do not work for Sandisk or own any of their stock - I just happen to believe they make the best flash cards. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Daryl H. Allred" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Daryl H. Allred" Subject: IR transfer from 200LX to 660LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can a 200LX transfer files to/from a 660LX via the Infrared (IR) port? -- Daryl Allred -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:09:23 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce Francis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Francis Subject: Re: Lx Palmtops at ATP Tennis Tournements Comments: cc: "bbicioglu1@MMM.COM" In-Reply-To: <862566AE.004D6E73.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:10:39 +0100, Bulent Bicioglu wrote: >Is there any tennis referee using lx palmtop in the HPLX list. I noticed >the palmtop in their hands at ATP tours on Eurosports and I wonder how they >are using it. The ATP chair umpires have been using the 200lx for a few years now, both in the U.S. and in Europe (the Grand Slam tournaments use an IBM touchpad linked into the central computing system). The program that is running is used to record each point of the match (and faults), which in turn gives a running display of the score, 1st/2nd serve, which games require ball changes, etc. I wrote an email to the ATP a couple of years ago to try to purchase a copy of this program so that I might use it to chart matches for trends, etc. I got back a marginally polite, mostly ascerbic message stating that they had invested several thousands of dollars in creating this program and they consider it "proprietary" to their job of supply chair umpiring to the ATP. I didn't understand the "proprietary", as they aren't competing with any other organization which might do the chair umpiring ... the ATP only uses ATP umpires. Having said all of that, I decided that it would be pretty easy to write a program such as this to record every point of a match, inputting whether the point was won outright, an unforced error, backhand/forehand error, volley, overhead, etc. Having saved all this data, it would be very easy to display the percentages that you see displayed during a telecast, and to analyze the data after a match. I have spent some time on this program, but "work" keeps interrupting.... :( --- Bruce Francis BFrancis@pobox.com For PGP Public key: email with Subject "BFrancis Public Key" ________________________________________________________ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:38:07 -0500 Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Subject: LXPGP webpage correction. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ack, this stuff happens when I don't proofread myself. My homepage is http://sac.uky.edu/~wally I mistakenly added a www to the front, and I do that if I'm not careful, habits are hard to break. :) Also, I just realized a small problem when using the compiled version of LXPGP, I named the batch file LXPGP.BAT, and the executable LXPGP.EXE. So, the archive on the webpage is updated, but if you've already downloaded the 1.0 version it's easy to fix. REN LXPGP.EXE LXPGPEXE.BAT Edit LXPGP.BAT, change LXPGP.EXE to LXPGPEXE.EXE That's it. I wish I thought of this stuff beforehand. -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Post/LX Auto Confirmation... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:11 -0500 (EST) Hi all- Thanks to Fred, Stan, and Avi, I found out where the mysterious outbox messages were coming from. Seems Post/LX is set up to automatically send a confirmation of receipt of mail if the sender's header includes a line like this-- Return-Receipt-To:whoever@whatever.com If you want confirmation sent, that's the default. If you don't, then add the line Confirmation=3D0 to the ÝSYSTEM¨ section of post.cfg to disable the auto-confirmation messages. -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: FLUFF: Re: Text resources in 200LX ROM... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >As far as the idea that ram is cheap and saving it is sick, that is >EXACTLY the thinking that lead to the state of the art today, word >processors that take 100M of disk and 32M to run, and I am not even >going to go into the bloat in the OS, especially those from a certain >company whose initials are MS. > >Pete Then I guess you agree with those who claim WINDOWS stands for: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System. ;-) B. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:45:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: PE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't been able to select text for editing using the shift-arrow keys. It doesn't work while testing it out alone (while not in the middle of using WWW/LX) either. CTRL-arrow isn't working anymore either. Does anyone on the list know whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? Or is my pe.cfg file corrupt? Looking at it, I can't find anything that seems out of wack. tia, Claud -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:54:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >What reasons do you all want 3.0 when 2.x serves just as well? Good >justification will convince me to remove 2.x and put up 3.0... Reason #1: Windows 3.1/95/98/NT systems are downward compatible to Windows 3.0, but not to Windows 2.x. When I run Windows 2.x apps (including the built-in 2.x apps) on my modern Windows systems Ýincluding NT 5.0 beta 2!¨, I get a pop-up that says The application you are about to run, PAINT.EXE Ýor whatever¨, was designed for a previous version of Windows. Obtain an updated version of the application that is compatible with Windows version 3.0 and later. If you choose the OK button and start the application, compatibility problems could cause the application or Windows to close unexpectedly. And in fact, of the built-in 2.x apps, several work on my NT machine, but Calc, Calendar, Reversi, Spooler, and Write don't. The 3.0 versions of these apps do work, however. Reason #2: I know how to build 3.0 apps, but I have no idea how to build 2.x apps. Cheers, - Joe -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:04:33 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hyunsoo KIM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hyunsoo KIM Subject: ??? GOING POSTAL: managing attachment file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Anyone does know how manage attachment file on Going Postal? Because I have an email with "Ýattached file: filename.txt¨" and it's 4.2kb file. But all that I have is a half page message with Ýattached file: filename.txt¨ message. Thank in advance !!! Pablo KIM -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:14:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: ??? GOING POSTAL: managing attachment file Comments: To: hanacom@FEEDBACK.NET.AR On 11-02 11:04am, the following was written: > Anyone does know how manage attachment file on Going Postal? > Because I have an email with "Ýattached file: filename.txt¨" and it's 4.2k > file. > But all that I have is a half page message with Ýattached file: > filename.txt¨ message. > > Thank in advance !!! You need to highlight the message in question thn press in that order, the message will be decoded into the directory which you set-up as your decode directory. Good luck! 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:17:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Schell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Schell Subject: IRDA on HP/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone asked about IRDA for the HP/LX. The drivers are on the SUPER site (http://www.palmtop.net/super.html). Bill Schell bill@bell-labs.com ------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:17:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" In-Reply-To: <008301be0681$70f254b0$11d53d9d@JOEBAR> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:54 AM 11/2/98 -0800, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Reason #1: > Windows 3.1/95/98/NT systems are downward compatible to Windows 3.0, but not > to Windows 2.x. Ah, yes, I see your point, but the purpose of having windows on my page (and risking the crush of gmen on my porch) is to run it on the LX. Windows can ONLY run real mode apps on the LX. Hence there is no issue at it being downward compatible because the only apps you will run on the LX are real mode apps (excluding all 3.1 and 9x/NT apps). > Reason #2: > I know how to build 3.0 apps, but I have no idea how to build 2.x apps. Okay, Joe, I'll take you up on this. If you can build REAL MODE apps for 3.0, and they run on the LX, I will DEFINITELY put it up. Let me know. Any requests for win 3.0 apps from Joe? ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:19:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Comments: To: Tony Olsen In-Reply-To: <004401be067b$52d530c0$08c8260a@ferris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:10 AM 11/2/98 -0800, Tony Olsen wrote: > I think the biggest thing is that I fear the 2.x really isn't as good as > 3.0, despite what everyone is saying... It's never crashed on me. But then I only use it to edit word documents. > I thought the "on a 286+ it > can run standard and enhanced mode."-improvement was between 3.0 and 3.1... 3.0 can run standard mode, I know. I thought it handled enhanced, but I could be wrong. The LX can't run either. Only real mode. ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:45:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Text resources in 200LX ROM... I agree with those who claim WINDOWS stands for: Will Install Needless Data On Whole System. yessh indeedee : ) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:16:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: PE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I get the same problem. It seems to go away if I reboot... strange. > -----Original Message----- > From: Claud G. Cameron Ýmailto:cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:46 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ PE > > > I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't > been able to > select text for editing using the shift-arrow keys. It > doesn't work while > testing it out alone (while not in the middle of using WWW/LX) either. > CTRL-arrow isn't working anymore either. Does anyone on the list know > whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? Or is my pe.cfg file > corrupt? Looking at it, I can't find anything that seems out of wack. > > > tia, > > Claud > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Brooks Subject: Re: PE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I have the same problem with Buddy and Software Carousel. Eventually Buddy stops working completely and as soon as I reboot everything is back to normal. I load Buddy through the HP.BAT file in the \sc7\ directory. Anyone have any ideas as to why this happens? -----Original Message----- From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨ Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:16 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: PE I get the same problem. It seems to go away if I reboot... strange. > -----Original Message----- > From: Claud G. Cameron Ýmailto:cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:46 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ PE > > > I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't > been able to > select text for editing using the shift-arrow keys. It > doesn't work while > testing it out alone (while not in the middle of using WWW/LX) either. > CTRL-arrow isn't working anymore either. Does anyone on the list know > whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? Or is my pe.cfg file > corrupt? Looking at it, I can't find anything that seems out of wack. > > > tia, > > Claud > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:08:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Windows Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference in real vs. standard mode? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:14:10 -0500 Reply-To: nickwb4sqi@wwd.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nick Marsh Organization: None at the moment Subject: HP 700LX Good & Bad news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The good news is that a Nokia 2190 phone will accept datacomm commands and the 700lx will dial the phone:-) Since I don't have GSM locally I can't tell if a connection can be made. The bad news is my Nokia 2160 does not respond to commands :( I was hoping to put it into analog mode and have it work like the 2110/2190 phones but looks as if Nokia didn't want that compatibility. Still havn't opened the 700lx yet to remove the Nokia modem and try the flash card, gotta get a #6 torx driver. Maybe soon.... -- 73 Nick Marsh WB4SQI -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:23:51 -0800 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Windows Question Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Forgive my ignorance, but what's the difference in real vs. standard mode? Standard mode takes advantage of the 286's ability to map 16MB of physical memory (the 8088 can only map 1MB). from http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q58/3/17.asp This article contains information on the processor and memory requirements for the three different operating modes of Microsoft Windows version 3.0. These modes are real mode (similar to Windows/286 versions 2.x), 286 standard mode (also known as 286 protected mode), and 386 enhanced mode (also known as 386 protected mode). from http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q78/9/72.asp 1. Q. Windows has three modes: real, standard, and 386 enhanced. What are the system requirements for these modes? A. The system requirements for these modes are: a. Windows real mode requires an 8088 or higher processor with 384K of free conventional RAM. b. Windows standard mode requires a 80286 or higher processor and 512K of available memory with at least 192K of that in extended memory. The Microsoft HIMEM.SYS driver from Windows 3.0 or MS-DOS 5.0 must be loaded in the CONFIG.SYS file. c. Windows 386 enhanced mode requires a 80386 or higher processor. 386 enhanced mode requires 1 megabyte (MB) of free extended memory. The Microsoft HIMEM.SYS driver from Windows 3.0 or MS-DOS 5.0 must be loaded in the CONFIG.SYS file. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:59:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Any software (freeware/shareware) on the Thaddeus CD can be given to Mitch at SUPER. (I noticed he now has Shass). Our (Thaddeus) plan is to work as closely with Mitch as possible so users will have only one site to find software. We have become the sponsor for the SUPER site. Further, you can start directly into different SUPER pages including search, from the download's part of our new site, PalmtopPaper.COM. In the next few weeks Ed Keefe, editor or The HP Palmtop Paper will be sending Mitch many new files -- new discoveries that we highlight in the Nov/Dec 98 issue of PTP. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:11:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Yes, they are the same company. They just went through a name change about 3 years ago. By the way we (Thaddeus Computing), PalmtopPaper.com sell SanDisk cards. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:19:35 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Searching for Windows 3.0 > I did a search on "Abandonware" and came up with a couple of good web > pages... but I also found a couple of government pages. They say that > "Abandonware" is an urban legend and there are articles of users serving > time in prison for distributing "Abandonware". > > I think this is crazy!! How am I supposed ot get an old software program if > a) It's no longer sold, and b) it's illegal to obtain a copy witout buying > it??? I think these government officials are nuts! > > I think "Abandonware" is good... maybe the government could form a legal > commity to decide which software is considered "Abandonware". > > What do you guys think? > > Tony > I doubt that "Abandonware" will ever be legally recognised since there is no requirement in the copyright law that says you have to make the item available. Have you ever tried to find an out of print book? Same problem, someone holds the coperight but won't release it so you can only find an old copy and buy it from someone. Software is the same way, if you want something that is no longer sold you find someone with a copy that they don't use and buy it from them. This is perfectly legal as long as the previous owner turns over all materials belonging to the original software package, they are not allowed to keep a copy or sell a copy and keep the original. While I agree it would be nice if software publishers would realize that people use old software and that they would release the software, or at least make arrangements to continue selling it, I don't expect it to happen except in limited cases. Also, anyone trying to gather and distribute software without an agreement with the copyright holder is breaking the law and if they get punished then they get what they deserve. You can't claim that you have a right to old software just because the company no longer sells it, anymore than you can claim the right to an old book that is out of print. Probably the best thing that could be done is if someone formed a non-profit group, like the free software foundation, to deal with companies and form contracts to either distribute the software for free or to manage the sale and royalities of the software. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:58 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Windows 3.0 > Apparently it's illegal (government-wise) to post "Abandonware". Does > anyone know more about this? ...because I'm looking for a copy of > Windows3.0, and I can't find it o sale anywhere.... > > Tony > Windows 3.0 (and 2 and 1) are still copyright MS and will be for many years to come. The only LEGAL way that you can obtain the software is to buy it from someone. You might be able to find someone that has a copy no longer in use that would sell it to you cheap. Of course, technically if they upgraded from 3.0 to 3.1 to 95 then they ARE still using the original software and can't legally sell it but that is a very fine point and not one that is likely to be challenged. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:21:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: FLUFF Math Question I'm trying to write a little program that will allow me to enter the size of a square or rectangular sheet of material and then allow me to enter the outside dimension of a round object to calculate how many of the round objects will come out of the square object. Does anyone know of a potential web site that might list various mathematical equations or know of a good book where I might find such resources. TIA 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:25:04 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: "Abandonware" > Although I don't *specialize* in trademark/copyright law, I can tell you > it's usually quite legal to post "abandonware". The problem is that > software is "abandonware" until its original copyright holder has > relinquished its rights and released it under a nonrestrictive license or > into the public domain. Just because software is no longer sold or > supported does not necessarily make it abandoned. > > Kurt > It is NOT going to be legal to post software UNLESS the company that holds the copyright has legally released all claims to the software and relinqished its rights under the copyright laws. There is NO requirement that software (or anything else) under copyright be sold or supported and the lack of support or sales in no way releases the owners rights under the copyright laws. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:56:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: DHCP Client Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jorgen; I checked the IBM TCP/IP for DOS and the requirements are "... 286, 386, 486 microprocessor". "At least 2 MB of memory", disk with "8 MB of free space", and a diskette drive. This is an older version of the software that became DLS. I am checking the Warp Server reference now. It does support DHCP. For a DOS 5.0 system it requires 2.3 MB hard disk for the minimum installation. Memory is 248.4 to 280 KB (low memory). An 8088 is supported for "Basic redirector only". Other sections say other things about a minimum CPU though. Things are scattered through out the Warp Server reference, and I cannot state one way or another if it would supply a DHCP client on a 200LX. It sure sounds like it in one spot. But in another place it will directly contradict that. The older TCP/IP for DOS won't work. (So much for older is leaner and meaner.) And I guess the only way to find out if DLS works is to try it. Oh well, chalk up another ##### for IBM's documentation. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:01:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bbicioglu1@MMM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Jeff Johns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Jeff The problem looks handable with functions of Lotus 123 installed in the LX Palmtop. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:07:20 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bbicioglu1@MMM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Re: HP200LX on Space Shuttle? Comments: To: SPAMBLOCK.palmtop@ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Did anyone confirm the presence of 200lx in Space Shuttle Discovery? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:49:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: DCHP Client Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As a follow-up I checked some older documentation. Results are you would need another TCP/IP stack. And DLS is for LAN access. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:49:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rodger N. Bird II" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rodger N. Bird II" Subject: Re: Dosshell Comments: To: aguze118 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony, Try: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html If the "DOS 5" file does not include the files I could email them to you. Let me know. Rodger -----Original Message----- From: aguze118 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 7:29 AM Subject: Dosshell Does anyone know where I can find the files for Dosshell? TIA Tony Guzewicz -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:04:49 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: The Deal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well it looks like the buyer of my old Psion has accepted the deal for a 15Mb CF in exchange. What I need to know now is which is the best 15Mb CF for a HP200LX (with x2 speed and 6Mb upgrade). From what I've been reading on the group the Sandisk does not drain the batteries as quickly as the Simple tech and Viking products. If this is the case where is the best source for the 15Mb Sandisk? I was looking at Techstore but this is what my exchange partner had to say: -----Quote------ Here's what I've found out. Shore Systems have the first unit you wanted. The 15mb CF unit that techstore stock doesn't appear to be compatible with your HP200LX. However as I know nothing about this equipment I think it would be better for you to find what you want yourself, then there can be no mistake. If you do - then I'm happy to order it, pay for it, and have it shipped to you in exchange for the Psion equipment. --- end quote ------- Any comments greatfully appreciated to ensure this is a successful upgrade 8-) Regards to all......Liam Bunbury, Western Australia -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:02:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jerry Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jerry Johnson Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card Comments: To: Tony Olsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I read somewhere that Sundisk changed their name to Sandisk Jerry -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:22:16 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kjh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: kjh Subject: Re: "Abandonware" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Umm, right like I said. (sorry about the typo - "... software is abandonware..." should have been ... software ISN'T abandonware ... , but I think everybody knew that.) >It is NOT going to be legal to post software UNLESS the company that >holds the copyright has legally released all claims to the software >and relinqished its rights under the copyright laws. Well, sort of. The company does not certainly have to release "all claims" and "relinquish its rights" in order to post its software - just the applicable ones relating to distribution. The Linux kernel (last time I looked into it), e.g., is still copyright Linus Torvalds, yet freely post-able ... I think the main point, mentioned by myself and Mr. Borders, however, is that just because software is no longer sold or supported does NOT make it public domain or necessarily distributable. The copyright or other rights, including patents and trademarks, USUALLY lives on, although there are other case-specific factors which I won't get into here that might result in an equitable abandonment. -----Original Message----- From: Peter W. Borders To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:26 PM Subject: Re: "Abandonware" >> Although I don't *specialize* in trademark/copyright law, I can tell you >> it's usually quite legal to post "abandonware". The problem is that >> software is "abandonware" until its original copyright holder has >> relinquished its rights and released it under a nonrestrictive license or >> into the public domain. Just because software is no longer sold or >> supported does not necessarily make it abandoned. >> >> Kurt >> > > >It is NOT going to be legal to post software UNLESS the company that >holds the copyright has legally released all claims to the software >and relinqished its rights under the copyright laws. There is NO >requirement that software (or anything else) under copyright be sold >or supported and the lack of support or sales in no way releases the >owners rights under the copyright laws. > >Pete > > >Peter W. Borders > >Network Support Technician >Tidewater Community College >tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:20:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: LX brand dropped for Jornada, sound for the LX, DOOM. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote: > Driller, Darkside, Total Eclipse > If you have one of these old games by Incentive Corp. please try and > comment how it feels on your 1x/2x palmtop. The 3D technology they > used is called 'FreeScape' and there is some chance that source will > be dropped sometimes by EIDOS (who only care for Lara Croft, BTW). I tried Driller (aka Space Station Oblivion) on my 1x LX, and it was playable, but ISTR some problems with the keyboard controls and it was a bit on the slow side... Mind you even on my 100MHz 486 it is somewhat sluggish (a bad timing algorithm, probably). > I do think this engine would allow for a DOOM lookalike, that is at > least playable on a double-speed LX. FreeScape games would certainly be playable on a 2x speed, but the FreeScape engine was never made for DOOM like games and fast games are usually difficuly to see on the LX's display, so I wouldn't get my hopes up... Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:31:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm trying to write a little program that will allow me to enter the size of > a square or rectangular sheet of material and then allow me to enter the > outside dimension of a round object to calculate how many of the round Trying to determine how many crop-circles can be etched in a farmer's field? (gd&r) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:36:21 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: "Abandonware" > Umm, right like I said. (sorry about the typo - "... software is > abandonware..." should have been ... software ISN'T abandonware ... , but I > think everybody knew that.) > You sound like you might be a lawyer or deal with the law in some way. you know how important those typos can be to a legal discussion. :-) Kind of changed the whole meaning of your statement. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:45:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET On 11-02 06:31pm, the following was written: > Trying to determine how many crop-circles can be etched in a farmer's > field? (gd&r) I'll never tell..... but it is gonna be a DOS based program that will run on the LX. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:15:07 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: jeffj@SCOTT.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I believe the answer is either trivial or very hard, depending on how important the question is. (Interger value of (length/diamater)) x (Interger value of (width/diamater)) will give the minimum number that will always fit. However, there will often be waste, and some other arrangement than: OOOO OOOO OOOO may be more efficient. To be useful to you, the formula must both tell you the answer, and tell you how to arrange the circles. I'm sure that someone who cuts circles for a living has solve the problem if its solvable, or has a rule of thumb which is almost a solution, if it is truely a "hard" question -- as it may be. Since I haven't taken a math course since computers came into general usage, I may be overlooking an obvious answer. Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:32:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Blah...Just Blah.." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Blah...Just Blah.." Subject: FLUFF: 200lx & physical punishment, a personal experience Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii whenever i'm not at home or at my workstation, my 200lx is always on me and usually turned on.. i've had it since early '95 and it's taken a lot of wear and tear in the pst (soon to be) 4 years... the worst happened last summer when i jumped up a flight of stairs to make a class and the 200lx decided she would practive skydiving: flew 5 feet out of a pocket and took a 15ft fall down the steps.. picked up the batteries and the battery cover and dusted her off, worked perfectly but one of the tabs on the batt. cover broke and i lost a screw and rubber foot. in march, a palmpilot owner forgot his stylus on the keyboard (i bet he did it purposefully out of jealousy ;) and i developed the hinge crack when i tried to close my palmtop. then today, on the train, someone bumped me hard while i was reading some documention and the 200lx did a flat-spin to the ground. a few hours later i noticed a few keys weren't working so when i got home i popped her open, cleaned out some dust, and reseated the zebra/film cable from the keyboard to the sbc. working fine now!! and i've only lost data ONCE, when a bug in a program i was writing maloc()'ed something VeryBad(tm) and everything went crash-boom-restart. granted these are extremes that stem from my clumsiness, but hey, i haven't had ANY other computer or PDA go this long, this stable, given the amount of wear and tear i dish out. now if only i could afford upgrading the 200lx and getting that nifty CDPD modem from novatel ;¨ --francois -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:50:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Schwaiger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Schwaiger Subject: HPLX cost/market acceptance WAS: Reduced battery life with 32m/64m MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's great that the 32 and 64 meg upgrades use improved technology but man are they expensive. I'm not making a public accusation that they have an excessive markup; they probably do cost a lot and thus have a high price. I'm saying that the cost of having a fully upgraded and useful HPLX is more than many people can afford. I think this is one of the biggest reasons that the HPLX wasn't more of a success. Let's do the math... $469 for a new HP200LX 2meg from Marcan $499 for a 32meg 2x upgrade $ 89 for WWW/LX $ 12 for 1350mah NiMh batteries $ 29 for an AC adapter $ 10 for a used XJ1144 modem (or about $69 for a new one) $ 10 for a Kensington Wetsuit cover (or $30+ for a leather case) $159 for a 40meg ST flash card $ 50 for assorted shareware registrations For a grand total of $1327 (which is well more than a grand by the way) Add on shipping and/or sales taxes and it's even more than $1400. And these are prices after the product is mature; it wasn't too long ago and they cost $800 for a new basic 2meg 200LX. Now I know that it is a true PC that can easily fit in one's pocket which is priceless for many of us, but let's be realistic. How many of the non-DOS programmer types will spend that much when they could get a 333MHz Intel Celeron with 96MB Ram, 8 gig HD, 32x CD-Rom, 3D sound, 56k modem, 17 inch monitor, and color ink jet printer for $200 LESS. And next month this will cost another $100-$200 less. Yes I know it's not 'in-your-pocket-portable' but think about. Pentium laptops and notebooks can also be bought for less. Even the other engineers that I work with have a difficult time believing how much I spent for my 200LX and flash card etc. Not even many 'techies' buy into my (obviously less than) convincing arguments for a truly portable PC. That's one of the biggest barriers to the HPLX's success. I got a great deal on mine when a Service Merchandise store closed and people still can't believe how much I paid for it. I'd love to get the 32meg 2x upgrade but at $500 I just can't justify it let alone afford it. I want to get the get the 8meg 2x upgrade, and now I find out that my batteries will get sucked dry significantly faster. Long battery has been one of my biggest bragging points for my LX. Now with that upgrade on top of my flash card...who knows? Maybe not much better than a WinCE which has backlighting. By the way I wouldn't want to sacrifice battery life for backlighting; I'm in dark meetings much less often than away from an outlet. If it could be readily turned off and on then I'd probably go for it. Oh well enough ranting...it's been done before and will be done again on this list. Flame my empty wallet if you'd like. Rick P.S. Thanks to all the business people and programmers who put a tremendous amount of their time into continuing the development of HPLX products for all of us. I just wish I could buy more of them. You must do it for the love of it, because I'm sure it takes a lot of time and effort. Mack Baggette wrote: > > >I thought that was for the speed upgrade. In my experience, the 32MB > >upgrade hasn't taken much of my battery life away...>> > > The new 32 & 64MB upgrades are much more conservative powerwise than the 8MBs > and less upgrades, so the old statement about 10-15% reduction in battery life > probably doesn't hold nearly as true for them. > > Cheers, > Mack > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:13:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question I think, therefore I am, sure that the number of circles in a farmer's patch depends on the size of his circles and his squares. Learned from Paul Erdos. OOOO OOOO OOOO Hmmmmmmm inneresting.......... Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:21:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM On 10-28 08:15pm, the following was written: > I believe the answer is either trivial or very hard, depending on how > important the question is. (Interger value of (length/diamater)) x (Interg > value of (width/diamater)) will give the minimum number that will always f . > However, there will often be waste, and some other arrangement than: > > OOOO > OOOO > OOOO > > may be more efficient. To be useful to you, the formula must both tell yo > the answer, and tell you how to arrange the circles. I'm sure that someon > who cuts circles for a living has solve the problem if its solvable, or ha Lynn has stumbled into the problem I'm trying to solve. I am trying to help someone who does make circles for a living and trying to derive the most simplistic way of doing so without resorting to a CAD system. I may be wrong but it seems that there should be a easier way to calculate the answer. I have the formula for the minimum number and now if I can figure out how to deal with the waste and the arrangement, I can compile a simple little program that will work on the LX..... maybe the aliens can use it in their crop circle planning . 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:50:45 -0800 Reply-To: larsomar@ucs.orst.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Larson Subject: Looking for MS Project for Dos Content-Type: text Where can I find MS Project for Dos that will run on the 200lx? Thanks, Mark larsomar@ucs.orst.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:58:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I believe the answer is either trivial or very hard, depending on how Yes, it is probably not simple, possibly involving tangents. My first inclination (wrong) was to take the areas and subtract but that would allow half circles or partial circles - not what he wants, I'd expect. > the answer, and tell you how to arrange the circles. I'm sure that someone > who cuts circles for a living has solve the problem if its solvable, or has a > rule of thumb which is almost a solution, if it is truely a "hard" question -- > as it may be. > With apolgies to those out of the loop - but Martha Stewart can solve this and any other craft problem (gd&r). My mountaineering friends and I believe she has made her own ice axe, woven her own climbing rope and forged her own carabiners! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:47:27 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: bobp@fpk.hp.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think there's a similar law for abandoned cars... isn't there? If a car seems to be abandoned, an individual can make a petition to the licensing bureau (or something like that). They'll look up the license plate owner and attempt to contact him. If no owner can be found after a specific amount of time, then the car is given to the perdon who found it. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Phillips To: olsena@email.msn.com Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:18 AM Subject: Re: Abandonware >Tony, > I see your point. I'm just not sure how one could equitably code >it into law. PC software differs from mainframe software and from Unix >software in usage patterns and in "durability." > I think that the rationale behind the current situation is that, >if the author wishes to place the work in the public domain (or to provide >some other licensing policy), he/she may explicitly do so. This seems >appropriate to me. >> Do you see what I mean? I the author does care, fine, but if the author >> doesn't care, then the government shouldn't either. >The current law ensures that intellectual property rights are protected. >If the author "cares," then he/she may relinquish those rights. >I strongly believe that those rights should not be relinquished by default, >and, given that the US government was created to preserve rights, I'm pleased >that it seems to feel the same way. > >The rationale is less applicable when the entity owning >the rights to the work no longer exists. I think that >what you are arguing for (and I don't necessarily think that it is a bad >idea) is some sort of software analogue to "squatter's rights." If I remember >the rationale behind squatter's rights (to provide maintenance of a property >and to enable a property to benefit the community in some way), it is a >reasonable analogy. For a situation where no copyright owner can be >clearly identified, it isn't a bad idea. The problem with codifying this >is the question of how much of an attempt one must make to identify and >notify a copyright holder that his/her rights are in jeopardy. > > >-- >Robert Phillips HP NJ Development Lab VOX:(973)-443-7669 >bobp@fpk.hp.com 300 Campus Drive FAX:(973)-443-7432 > Florham Park, NJ 07932 > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:25:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Tony Olsen In-Reply-To: <000a01be06ed$71d43120$08c8260a@ferris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Tony Olsen wrote: > I think there's a similar law for abandoned cars... isn't there? If a car > seems to be abandoned, an individual can make a petition to the licensing > bureau (or something like that). They'll look up the license plate owner > and attempt to contact him. If no owner can be found after a specific > amount of time, then the car is given to the perdon who found it. That's not true in Alabama. The car would be sold at a State auction to the highest bidder, but then again, we don't have a lot of abandoned cars. My estimate is that 98%-99% of the cars we tow that seem to be abandoned are claimed by their rightful owners and you wouldn't want the other 1%-2% and besides, what's the odds of Microsoft ever giving up a claim to any of their software. Even though they may no longer support it, they aren't going to allow others to use it without paying them something. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:34:48 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: PE Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't been able = to > Does anyone on the list know > whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? > I forget. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 03:21:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kat Deutscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Girls and their LXs MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Our friend AL wrote: > BTW: It wood be inneresting to take a survey of girls and > their LXsand see what the incidence and types of problems > is, since they don't usually carry their LXs in a hip pouch. > :) This of corse would not be to indicative cause they ain't > enough girls, wish dare wuz tho. A few girls can go a long way! I sold my first 200lx (1mb) to another woman and it is still in good shape. The second (4mb) model goes everywhere I go. I keep it in either a padded leather case that I bought at Service Merchandise in 1995 or the nifty PDA organizer case that Sharper Image advertises in their most recent catalog. The first case fits nicely in a purse or tote bag. The second is used as a purse, but is small enough to fit in a tote bag. Giving credit where credit is due... the palmtop can withstand sudden flight out of a tote bag in a car, smash into the dashboard onto the floor of the car, and my possibly amusing attempts to retrieve it while driving (gotta see if it's okay). That only happens when I slam on the brakes. Unfortunately, that happens a lot in the Chicago area. What is with these people anyway? I may need to add velcro to the poor thing to help it stay tucked inside my totebag... To date, neither palmtop has any sign of hinge cracks nor screen problems. -- K.Deutscher - katd@cwix.com - TheOpr@aol.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:19:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Cripps Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Cripps Subject: Quickstar Fax Pro - Trying to register! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anybody else on the list use Quick Star FAX Pro? I down loaded it from SUPER, was happy with the result so decided to register the product via PSL. They replied quickly, took the $24 from my credit card, but havn't heard anything from QuickStar for over two months, which includes mails from me and from PSL. If any body knows the author, give him/her a prod. If not what other FAX S/W is recomended? Regards David Cripps -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:09:54 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: PE Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I had the same problem with ExKey, and gave up using ExKey. I'm using KeyStuff instead (both from SUPER) Claud G. Cameron wrote: > > I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't been able to > select text for editing using the shift-arrow keys. It doesn't work while > testing it out alone (while not in the middle of using WWW/LX) either. > CTRL-arrow isn't working anymore either. Does anyone on the list know > whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? Or is my pe.cfg file > corrupt? Looking at it, I can't find anything that seems out of wack. > > tia, > > Claud > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio | A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706 Fax: +49.30.7002 4780 +---------------+ mailto:Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:03:34 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: help with macros and pushkeys pleasee Comments: To: Max Maizels MD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" You could try KeyStuff from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html Max Maizels MD wrote: > > i was able to identify the file pushkeys.com on the d:\bin directory of the > palmtop > there appears to be no documentation on how to use this file. > i entered pushkeys /i and noted the response that this was installed but i > am not able to find it as a tsr in the autoexec.bat file or in filer. > > i am currently using hp200 and software carousel & i would like to > use a program which can do the following keypresses as a macro > > ¬1 > p > f9 > c:\_dat\filename1.pdb > & > b > f9 > c:\dat\filename2.gdb > > i have noted a program called keypress, but the authors email address no > longer seems to work...using this program, while i have some familiarity w > puters, i have used the bat files provided but i > cant seem to make the link between your nice demos and my needs. > > would someone be able to help me with these needs? > > thanks > max > > i was able to identify the file pushkeys.com on the d:\bin directory of the > palmtop > there appears to be no documentation on how to use this file. > i entered pushkeys /i and noted the response that this was installed but i > am not able to find it as a tsr in the autoexec.bat file or in filer. > > i am currently using hp200 and software carousel & i would like to > use a program which can do the following keypresses as a macro > > ¬1 > p > f9 > c:\_dat\filename1.pdb > & > b > f9 > c:\dat\filename2.gdb > > i have noted a program called keypress, but the authors email address no > longer seems to work...using this program, while i have some familiarity w > puters, i have used the bat files provided but i > cant seem to make the link between your nice demos and my needs. > > would someone be able to help me with these needs? > > thanks > max > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio | A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706 Fax: +49.30.7002 4780 +---------------+ mailto:Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:07:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kjh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: kjh Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There ARE ways to have intellectual property declared "abandoned" in a sense - i.e. have a declaratory judgment that the original rights-holder cannot enforce his rights against either 1) a specific party, or 2) the whole world (much less likely). Please, I'm not trying to be condescending, but that's an area of law that is highly "fact-specific" and it is difficult to quote general "rules", except that, as a broad guideline, if the rights-holder has actual knowledge of an infringement and either condones it for a period of time, or for a longer period of time fails to pursue his rights, you might have success in seeking a judgment. That theme of abandonment runs in many areas of law, such as real property (e.g. creation of an prescriptive easement). But, I think, as has been pointed out by myself and others, that you'd have a VERY difficult time trying to get a judgment with software that has simply not been sold or supported for several years, esp. when most of the licenses that come with such software are quite clear on the distribution restrictions and the perpetuity of the holder's rights. Also remember that more and more software is protected by algorithmic patents now as well, and again, you can sit on a patent for 17 years, doing nothing at all with it, but still have full rights to enforce it against the world unless you fall into laches ... Just my $.02 ... Kurt >> I think there's a similar law for abandoned cars... isn't there? If a car >> seems to be abandoned, an individual can make a petition to the licensing >> bureau (or something like that). They'll look up the license plate owner -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:14:06 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs Comments: To: katd@MCI2000.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/3/98 1:28:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, katd@MCI2000.COM writes: > BTW: It wood be inneresting to take a survey of girls and > > their LXsand see what the incidence and types of problems > > is, since they don't usually carry their LXs in a hip > pouch. I certainly don''t qualify as a girl anymore...too old!!!! (51) but I do take my LX everywhere I go. I think some of the problems that have developed on the "guys'" LXs could be because of the type of case that is used. Mine is 'permanently' attached to the case and the case is unzipped to use the unit. It is padded and I find, easier to use than when I had a pouch-type case. I carry mine in a purse or in my briefcase. I have had it for over 3 years with no problems at all. Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:55:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: New URL (was Re: Win 3.0... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've changed redirectors. Please use the link below if you want to get windows/apps for the LX. (you can use the old comports, but it goes down often) ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:45:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs Hi C Hows mine coming along/ Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:04:52 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit okey dokey... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:07:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Jeff Johns Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This reminds me of some old chemistry problems dealing with packing arrangements of atoms in a crystal structure, where the object was to determine the most efficient packing method. I forget the name (something like "closest cubic packing" or something like that)..but then that's also in 3-D (tho it may be somewhat applicable). I wonder how the cookie and donut bakers work it out . - Longden Jeff Johns on 11/02/98 08:21:51 PM Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please respond to Jeff Johns To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question On 10-28 08:15pm, the following was written: > I believe the answer is either trivial or very hard, depending on how > important the question is. (Interger value of (length/diamater)) x (Interg > value of (width/diamater)) will give the minimum number that will always f . > However, there will often be waste, and some other arrangement than: > > OOOO > OOOO > OOOO > > may be more efficient. To be useful to you, the formula must both tell yo > the answer, and tell you how to arrange the circles. I'm sure that someon > who cuts circles for a living has solve the problem if its solvable, or ha Lynn has stumbled into the problem I'm trying to solve. I am trying to help someone who does make circles for a living and trying to derive the most simplistic way of doing so without resorting to a CAD system. I may be wrong but it seems that there should be a easier way to calculate the answer. I have the formula for the minimum number and now if I can figure out how to deal with the waste and the arrangement, I can compile a simple little program that will work on the LX..... maybe the aliens can use it in their crop circle planning . 73 Jeff -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:07:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: He or She, warez, circles, infra keyboard, etc. Dear LXers, I saw a posting about "dropping the LX and SHE wasn't damaged". Now I wonder if users think of the palmtop as HE, SHE, IT or what? Abandonware: I have a very simple idea if you wish to get a SW that is no longer sold in stores. Write a paper/electronic letter to the software house, stating that you wish to purchase it. They will answer, that it's no longer selling. Then carefully preserve and document sending of the above letters. Then get this SW from anywhere (friend, warez. etc.) and use the SW with peace of mind. If BSA comes and accuses you, it's easy to prove: you originally wanted to BUY the SW; and only got it from else to show off: that companies are willing to put more effort to find and condemn users, than it would take to sell them out of run software. Your action is beneficial to both you and the company, as if the company modifies its policy towards selling obsolete SW it will gain additional income. I am sure your action will be app- reciated by any judge and you'll be released. Than others can also purchase this piece of program legally. If anyone is interested in looking at the IBM PCjr infra keyboard, test examples for both versions are available. Information on signal specs. is also available. Aim: to decide whether it can be used with only a driver to be written (eg. no HW modifications). About circles: I remember that around 1957, a 300 meter span cable bridge was built here at Budapest. The engineers used one of the first soviet computers in Hungary to determine the optional mix of round and square cross-section wires that give max. strenght in the fix size (app. 2ft in diameter) cable batch. The result could not be found with available hardware, so finally the batch shape was modified to octogonal. But that computer had only 2 kiloword magnetic drum storage and app. 250 bytes core memory. I am sure it had slower CPU than 4004 but with innovative programming any computer can do wonders. So the problem is more complicated than it seems to be. I think an analog computer approach is more suitable for these kind of tasks. (BTW, I want to develop an LX into hybrid computer to be used as heavy artillery fire-control device. Then I'd hold HP Singapure at gunpoint to produce an souped-up LX replacement. But I need to go to Russia for buying a used battlecrusier, cheap.) I had a few feedbacks, regarding Incentive. First, I have DARKSIDE full game in a 100KB .arj file, you can have it. How fast is the fastest motion that can be displayed on the 200LX LCD screen? I know, some play MS FS 4. on the palmtop; how severe "ghosting" is? Third: Have any of you played that Psion S3 DOOM clone? How that feels? Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:16:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: HPLX cost/market acceptance WAS: Reduced battery life with 32 m/64m MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Rick, <> Yes, it is a labor of love and many long hours are involved, but if we want to stay in business (and properly compensate 15-20 employees) it is one for profit. I have good news -- or perhaps we should say a reliable rumor for everyone. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see prices for upgrades and used palmtops to go down soon, sometime between Nov 13-23 to be announced here and at www.PalmtopPaper.com. Now here I am giving people warning. Please, if you can resist, don't complain "I just sent mine in", or "why didn't you tell me earlier". The announcement hasn't been made. It is just a rumor. Our costs have not yet gone down in terms of existing inventory. Assuming this rumor is true, once our inventory reflects the new pricing, we will honor that pricing on units that have been sent in even if new pricing has not been announced. If anyone has any better ideas on how to make such a price transition, I am interested. Hal Goldstein President Thaddeus Computing -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:44:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: The Deal Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Liam and list. I used to use a Sandisk 4MB Compact Flash in a Type II adapter with my 200LX with no problems. It did not require any special drivers, and it was good on battery life. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:00:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs In-Reply-To: <005101be0642$30b79b60$78d037a6@0308190211853034> from Kat Deutscher at "Nov 2, 98 03:21:32 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What is with these people anyway? I may need to add velcro Well, if you lived in Southern California it would mean the traffic stopped while you were putting on mascara :-) (if you were a guy in Southern California, it would be "shaving" or "reading the paper") Living in Oregon now, where reading the paper while shaving at full freeway speeds during a downpoar is much more challenging -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:04:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Good news - bad news First the good news: "a reliable rumor for everyone. I wouldn't at all be surprised to see prices for upgrades and used palmtops to go down soon, sometime between Nov 13-23 to be announced here and at www.PalmtopPaper.com." HG. Then the bad news. The demise of the LX is faster approaching? If I should die on the Croatian front Bury me with a LX font. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:28:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Igor Testen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Igor Testen Subject: Nokia 6150 & 200LX IR Connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, just realized yesterday, it'd be cool if I could transfer phone numbers from 200LX to the mobile phone. So I turned on IR port in Datacomm at 9600 Baud, and sent a phone number from mobile phone to 200LX. 200LX shows a lot of unreadable characters and then somewhere towards the end "Nokia 6100", after which the phone says sending failed. Therefore I am assuming the phone sent some kind of a "establish communication" signal, which the 200LX didn't properly answer. My question is, whether there is a program that records longer sequences from the IR port and then plays it back, and where I could find information concerning controlling and programming of the IR port. THX, Igor -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:19:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: HPLX cost/market acceptance WAS: Reduced battery life with32m/64m Comments: To: Rick Schwaiger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Rick and list. I have the Times2Tech 2X upgrade and a 4MB board from Marcan. I wouldn't avoid upgrading to 2X speed because of battery life. The speed upgrade makes the LX sooo much better for a minimal price. I really don't think that the battery hit was too great; I didn't notice any effect, although admittedly I didn't use any battery timing programs (Buddy, Battlog, etc.) back then. Your SimpleTech flash card is the real culprit. If you can spare the loss in flash card speed, load LXCIC (available on SUPER) resident from your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. It will really slow your ST card down, but you can speed it up to Sandisk card levels (older, full-size Sandisk cards; the newer ones may be faster) by holding down the ALT or CTRL keys. Unfortunately, it will never run as fast as it does without LXCIC loaded. The good side is that your battery life will go to much more reasonable levels. My 2X 5MB 200LX now runs for around 14 hours with the T2T NiMH batteries. I used to get around 5 hours before loading LXCIC. If you don't want to shell out for the T2T batteries, I used to get good results (9-10 hours) with the hi-capacity NiCd (NOT NiMH) batteries from Radio Shack, which are only $7 a pair. I can't comment on the 8MB memory upgrade since I don't have one. I assume the 4MB upgrade from T2T is pretty similar to the Marcan one, and again, I didn't notice too much of a loss in battery life. As far as cost goes, I think that many who are willing to go for hi-powered 200LXes are also willing to use a secondhand equipment (since we void the warranty with upgrades anyway). My costs were: $200 1MB 200LX used with AC adapter $75 T2T 2X upgrade $75 Marcan 4MB upgrade $75 Apex 33.6K PCMCIA modem used $15 T2T NiMH batteries $10 Clip-on light from palmtop.net $190 40MB SimpleTech ATA flash card $10 Cheap camera bag from Target for a total of around $650. I didn't include software costs since you'll have them no matter what platform you use. It's probably less with the 200LX since there are so many freeware packages available, along with old DOS software many of us find cheaply. I don't think that my costs are too unreasonable. A 5MB 2X 200LX with 33.6K modem and 40MB storage is a pretty nice setup. Besides, I can and do use the flash card and modem in my Thinkpad, so those costs are shared between both machines. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:18:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Owners Manual Does anyone on the list have an owners manual for the old EXP ThinFax software or more specifically does anyone who is currently using the ThinFax software know how to change the font size for faxes? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:35:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Schell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Schell Subject: Re: 200LX abuse stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, if we're posting 200LX abuse stories... Running down a road, 200LX flies out of pocket, hits pavement at running speed, lands on its corner, flips around a lot, flash card comes flying out of slot. Wipe off dust, put flash card back in. Didn't even have to reboot. Still running 5 years later. I heard a story of a 200LX flying off the back of a moving motorcycle once and surviving. I don't know if its true. Don't try this at home Pilot owners! Bill Schell bil@bell-labs.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Girls and their LXs Girls are great, don't know why guys abuse them. Does it rain in Northern Oregon? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:34:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Sandisk et al Has anyone had the problem of "seeing" and working on (flash) A: drive then having it disappear. It seems to come and go unpredictably. When its there, its there and when it isn't DIR A: shows no files found. Hmmmmmm. Maybe its alheimers, my eyesight, or the disk. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:48:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Sandisk et al Comments: To: al chin In-Reply-To: <19981105.103847.13862.12.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, al chin wrote: > Has anyone had the problem of "seeing" and working on (flash) A: drive > then having it disappear. It seems to come and go unpredictably. > When its there, its there and when it isn't DIR A: shows no files > found. Hmmmmmm. Maybe its alheimers, my eyesight, or the disk. Software Carousel before the 7.0 versions had a problem like this. Are you running Software Carousel? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:43:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Claud G. Cameron" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Claud G. Cameron" Subject: Re: PE Comments: To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de In-Reply-To: <363EE482.C2323894@alcatel.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Last night, I found out that ExKey was the culprit. Did you ever try different loading sequences for your TSRs? At 12:09 11/03/98 +0100, you wrote: >I had the same problem with ExKey, and gave up using ExKey. I'm using >KeyStuff instead (both from SUPER) > >Claud G. Cameron wrote: >> >> I use PE as my editor with WWW/LX. Just recently, I haven't been able to >> select text for editing using the shift-arrow keys. It doesn't work while >> testing it out alone (while not in the middle of using WWW/LX) either. >> CTRL-arrow isn't working anymore either. Does anyone on the list know >> whether these are symptoms of a lack of memory? Or is my pe.cfg file >> corrupt? Looking at it, I can't find anything that seems out of wack. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Cavendishl@AOL.COM On 10-28 08:15pm, the following was written: > I believe the answer is either trivial or very hard, depending on how > important the question is. (Interger value of (length/diamater)) x (Interg > value of (width/diamater)) will give the minimum number that will always f . > However, there will often be waste, and some other arrangement than: > > OOOO > OOOO > OOOO > > may be more efficient. To be useful to you, the formula must both tell yo > the answer, and tell you how to arrange the circles. I'm sure that someon > who cuts circles for a living has solve the problem if its solvable, or ha Let's say we have a square that measures 150" X 150" and a circle that measures 86.625" outside diameter the formula would be as follows: x=(150/80.625) X (150/80.625) in which x=2.99844 which tells me that 2 of the circles out of the square and the arrangement would look like this: O O The two circles would have to be on the hypontenuse of the triangle.... is there someway that I might be able to come up with Lotus 1-2-3 formula that would aid me in this venture.... ? Here's my ultimate goal for clarification and it doesn't involve crop circles : I want/need to be able to enter the size of a sheet of material, then the size of a circle, have the LX calculate the number of circles that can be made from the sheet and show the best possible arrangement of circles on the square. That would be the first part of my project and probably the most adventageous. The second phase would be to have the LX actually control the machine that makes the circle, this, of course, will require some additional hardware in the form of cables and connectors. I haven't found anything that I haven't been able to accomplish with the LX yet..... if I can talk to Russian Space Stations with it on a daily basis, surely I can calculate the number of circles and the arrangement of circles with the LX. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:49:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: NiMH batts life with32m/64m To batt gurus Say getting approx 10hrs from these batts but recharging everyday after 7hrs use regardless Question is: would it make any difference doing this on a regular basis? TIA Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: 200LX abuse stories Is this a "Believe it or not" item? Thumb in cheek. I usually would not move, or act without thinking of where my 'piece' was. Comes second nature. I once ran down a street 200LX flies off belt, hits pavement at running speed, lands, I know not how due to my velcro belt loop coming undone. Lucky some nice soul found and return it (for the reward). Yet no krack and I've since sewn my velcro loop. tighter than a vergin's tru-so, Believe it or not :) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:21:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: Owners Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeff, I don't think you can change the font. You can try contacting them at support@expcomputer.com but you better be VERY patient. Lifetime warranty, you know... Mikhail > Does anyone on the list have an owners manual for the old EXP ThinFax > software or more specifically does anyone who is currently using the ThinFax > software know how to change the font size for faxes? > > 73 Jeff -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:16:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Sandisk et al David Now that yu mention it, YEAH. I surpose I gotta upgrade huh? What is the problem and why? Is there a workaround besides not using Carousel? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:25:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: jeffj@SCOTT.NET In-Reply-To: <199811031709.LAA12597x@scott.net> from Jeff Johns at "Nov 3, 98 11:07:52 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Here's my ultimate goal for clarification and it doesn't involve crop > circles : That's right people, it's much more sinister. He's obviously acquired a truckload of ex-Soviet nuclear missiles! Below I've added in his devious plot to his original message (which he conveniently left unsaid): > I want/need to be able to enter the size of a sheet of material **say, > the continental United States**, then the size of a circle **such as the > blast area of a nuclear device**, have the LX calculate the number of > **detonations.... er, ** circles... that can be made from the "sheet" > and show the best possible (**highest kill**) arrangement of "circles" > on the square. That would be the first part of my project **followed by > world domination** and probably the most adventageous. **evil chuckle > here** Make no mistake about it my friends, Alabama just became a nuclear power.. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:30:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Sandisk et al Comments: To: al chin In-Reply-To: <19981105.111705.13862.16.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, al chin wrote: > Now that yu mention it, YEAH. I surpose I gotta upgrade huh? What is > the problem and why? Is there a workaround besides not using > Carousel? If I recall correctly (Hal, feel free to correct me if I get it wrong) the problem was that if you insert a flash card in one work area, then switch to another, and try to access the card, it doesn't work right. I generally did a DIR on the card, and would get either no files, or a hideously scrambled list of garbage characters that reportedly took up 85 gigabytes on the flash card. I was fortunate enough never to have anything bad happen, because I never wrote to a "scrambled" flash card. Writing to the card when it was like that would do very bad things to the data on the card. So, that bug has been fixed in the newest version. The workaround for the older 6.x versions, which worked for me, was to remove the card and reinsert it in the same work area. That would "descramble" it. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:22:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Brooks Subject: Re: 200LX abuse stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I once repaired a 200LX that flew out of a man's pocket while he was riding his motorcycle. It still worked for several months before he finally brought it to us for repair. Also, 3 months ago or so we had a 200LX come in from a retired police officer. His German Shepard took the liberty of using it as a chew toy. It seemed to be too much for the nearly new palmtop though, as none of the pieces were reusable. David -----Original Message----- From: Bill Schell Ýmailto:bill@BELL-LABS.COM¨ Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 10:36 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: 200LX abuse stories OK, if we're posting 200LX abuse stories... Running down a road, 200LX flies out of pocket, hits pavement at running speed, lands on its corner, flips around a lot, flash card comes flying out of slot. Wipe off dust, put flash card back in. Didn't even have to reboot. Still running 5 years later. I heard a story of a 200LX flying off the back of a moving motorcycle once and surviving. I don't know if its true. Don't try this at home Pilot owners! Bill Schell bil@bell-labs.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:30:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: NiMH batts life with32m/64m Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NiMH cells do not have "memory". Recharging them before complete discharge will not effect them. The biggest thing to control during charging NiMH cells is heat. Keep them below 100 deg. F while charging. I use Rat Shack's charger and a small fan. I have also removed the cover from the charger. Phil > >To batt gurus >Say getting approx 10hrs from these batts but > recharging everyday after 7hrs use regardless >Question is: would it make any difference doing >this on a regular basis? > >TIA >Semper mobilis, >yor pal al :-) ............. > > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:33:01 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Steven Lawson Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >That's right people, it's much more sinister. He's obviously acquired >a truckload of ex-Soviet nuclear missiles! Below I've added in his >devious plot to his original message (which he conveniently left unsaid): Actually it's really for calculating the number of bullet holes a sheriffs car could take before weakening its structure. Ending the chase in otherwords! Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:25:10 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: He or She, warez, circles, infra keyboard, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I think that you will find that several existing 'heaby artillery fire control device'-s are in fact written for the 8086, so might well run on the LX. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:47:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: Mack Baggette In-Reply-To: <010d01be0750$0224d920$26ad0d5a@al.bst.bls.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Mack Baggette wrote: > >That's right people, it's much more sinister. He's obviously acquired > >a truckload of ex-Soviet nuclear missiles! Below I've added in his > >devious plot to his original message (which he conveniently left unsaid): > > Actually it's really for calculating the number of bullet holes a > sheriffs car could take before weakening its structure. Ending the > chase in otherwords! Man, you guys live exciting lives down there in Alabama! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:45:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: 200LX abuse stories Comments: To: al chin In-Reply-To: <19981105.111021.13862.15.hobchi@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Here's one, HP200LX was left on car and fell off at 45 mph and was grazed by the tire of the car behind. The screen was cracked but no data was lost on either the c: drive or the flashcard in a: drive. It worked fine just couldn't read the cracked screen. Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:47:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>What reasons do you all want 3.0 when 2.x serves just as well? Good >>justification will convince me to remove 2.x and put up 3.0... >> >Windows 3.1/95/98/NT systems are downward compatible to Windows 3.0, but not >to Windows 2.x. This is the reason why I have given up on installing Excel 2.1 on my 200LX. It seems that all current versions of Excel are downward compatible only to Excel 2.2. I don't have 2.2, can't seem to find it anywhere, and I suspect that it wouldn't run on my 200LX with just the runtime Windows instead of the full Windows install (can anyone confirm/deny this?). It seems that if you have an Excel file created with any current version of Excel, the recommended method for importing it to Excel 2.1 is to save it as *.WK1 first! Well, if I'm going to do that, then I might as well just open the file up again in Lotus 1-2-3 and save myself the trouble and flashcard space of carrying Excel around. Bruce B-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , colin cohen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: colin cohen Subject: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To Tony Olsen: It is not applicable to complain that you "deserve" = the right to access so called abandonware. Its no different from a = book which is out of print. Once out of print, you dont have the = right to copy an old one, or do you?=1A -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:34:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Yarnell Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1227394038__" --__next_part__1227394038__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:13 -0600, al chin wrote: ho> Girls are great, don't know why guys abuse them. ho> Does it rain in Northern Oregon? ho> ho> Semper mobilis, ho> yor pal al :-) ............. Na, it _never_ rains here in the state of the beaver.....lots of "liquid sunshine" though :¬( paul --__next_part__1227394038__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Yarnell pyarnell@proaxis.com "If you can't hide the skeletons in your closet, at least teach them to dance funny" - Rev. Billy C. Wirtz --__next_part__1227394038__-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:48:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Blah...Just Blah.." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Blah...Just Blah.." Subject: Re: He or She, warez, circles, infra keyboard, etc. Comments: To: Feher Tamas In-Reply-To: ; from Feher Tamas on Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 10:07:28AM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Nov 03, 1998 at 10:07:28AM -0500, Feher Tamas wrote: > Dear LXers, > > I saw a posting about "dropping the LX and SHE wasn't damaged". > Now I wonder if users think of the palmtop as HE, SHE, IT or what? that was probly me :¨ i've been sitting in front of computers basically forever and somewhere along the line i picked up the habit of naming my computers... well, my lx is Jenny (long complicated naming convention story snipped), so as far as i'm concerned, my palmtop is a she that said, i'll just wait for someone to stop by with that nice long jacket with sleeves around the back --francois -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:08:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs --Yeesh! stop this thread! Comments: To: "pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yeesh! stop this thread! > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:13 -0600, al chin wrote: > > ho> Girls are great, don't know why guys abuse them. > ho> Does it rain in Northern Oregon? > ho> > ho> Semper mobilis, > ho> yor pal al :-) ............. > > Na, it _never_ rains here in the state of the beaver.....lots of > "liquid sunshine" though :¬( > > paul -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:08:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Wong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Wong Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question In-Reply-To: <199811031709.LAA12597x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Nov 3, 98 11:07:52 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ý cut before and after ¨ > I want/need to be able to enter the size of a sheet of material, then the > size of a circle, have the LX calculate the number of circles that can be > made from the sheet and show the best possible arrangement of circles on the > square. That would be the first part of my project and probably the most If you're covering a plane, the best arrangement of circles would be a hexagonal lattice (like a honeycomb), this would cover about 90% of the surface. Of course a rectangle isn't a plane because a rectangle has boundaries, which really muddle things up (reality, what a bummer :), but it's probably a decent solution so long as the circles are a lot smaller than the rectangle. So far as I know, this really isn't a trivial problem if you're looking for the absolute best arrangement. Three relevant URLs are: http://www.astro.virginia.edu/~eww6n/math/CirclePacking.html http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathland_11_25.html both of which list plenty of references, and http://www.stetson.edu/~efriedma/packing.html which has pretty animations :) You might also search altavista or whatever for "packing circles" or "covering discs" or something simliar. This seems like an ideal problem for a Monte Carlo-ish simulation or maybe some sort of genetic algorithm. Define your area, define your circle size, randomly pack the circles into the area and jiggle them around a bit until you find something you like. Good luck, Eric -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:20:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Flash card power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The SimpleTech/Viking flash cards (CF+ATA) are specified to use 60mA read and 80mA write at 5V (which we only have on the palmtop). An unmodified 100LX uses about 70mA while running. If you use let's say a pair of 700mAh NICD batteries, you should get 10 full hours of a constantly running 100LX. If you plug in a ST/Viking flash card and do extensive read/write to the card, your batteries should still last for 5 hours. If this is not true, I guess you should return the card, stating that it does not work as specified. I own a very old 10MB SunDisk flash card specified to read/write at 60mA. I keep it all the time in my palmtop without any remarkable power drain. Now 60mA is not far away from the average read/write 70mA of ST/Viking. There should be no significant difference in power drain between these two. www.shoresystems.com sells ST/Viking 64MB CF for $269 and 220MB ATA for $699. Good price if they work as specified. However if not, even this is too much. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:33:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MIKE GUMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: MIKE GUMAN Subject: Re: Flash card power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I own an old 1.8Meg Sundisk card and concur with the observations below. By the way, whatever happened to Sundisk? Are they still in business? >---------- >From: Stefan PeichlÝSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE¨ >Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 2:20 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: Flash card power drain > >The SimpleTech/Viking flash cards (CF+ATA) are specified to use >60mA read and 80mA write at 5V (which we only have on the >palmtop). An unmodified 100LX uses about 70mA while running. >If you use let's say a pair of 700mAh NICD batteries, you >should get 10 full hours of a constantly running 100LX. If you >plug in a ST/Viking flash card and do extensive read/write to >the card, your batteries should still last for 5 hours. > >If this is not true, I guess you should return the card, >stating that it does not work as specified. > >I own a very old 10MB SunDisk flash card specified to >read/write at 60mA. I keep it all the time in my palmtop >without any remarkable power drain. Now 60mA is not far away >from the average read/write 70mA of ST/Viking. There should >be no significant difference in power drain between these two. > >www.shoresystems.com sells ST/Viking 64MB CF for $269 and >220MB ATA for $699. Good price if they work as specified. >However if not, even this is too much. > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:41:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Flash card power drain Comments: To: MIKE GUMAN In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote: > I own an old 1.8Meg Sundisk card and concur with the observations > below. By the way, whatever happened to Sundisk? Are they still in > business? Sundisk changed their name to Sandisk and is still very much in business. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:32:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , yi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: yi Subject: Re: He or She, warez, circles, infra keyboard, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---"Blah...Just Blah.." wrote: > along the line i picked up the habit of naming my computers... well, > my lx is Jenny (long complicated naming convention story snipped), so Please, do tell your story, I would like to hear. Yi _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:57:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Donald Collins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Subject: Clipper's RTLink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm trying to use Clipper on my 200LX so I can create a Dbase III/IV = viewer/editor specifically for the LX. My problem is that I cant get = RTLink to work. I get the same errors regardless which program I'm = trying to link. Clipper compiles OK. I purchase Clipper at a used SW store and have found two of the = diskettes to be bad. I don't have a full install so this might be the = root of my problem. Any Clipper professionals out there have any input? Don. -------------------- first.prg snip --------------------- CLEAR SCREEN ? "This is my first HPLX Clipper program!" RETURN -------------------- end of first.prg snip -------------- -------------------- system env. snip ------------------------- path=3Da:\clipper5\bin;d:\dos;a:\;c:\bin lib=3Da:\clipper5\lib include=3Da:\clipper5\include obj=3Da:\clipper5\obj pll=3Da:\clipper5\pll -------------------- end of system env. snip ------------------ -------------------- error snip = ------------------------------------------- .RTLink for Clipper Dynamic Overlay Linker / Pre-Linker Version 3.13 (C) Copyright Pocket Soft Inc., 1988-1991. All Rights Reserved. warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 80H (THEADR) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 96H (LNAMES) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 98H (SEGDEF) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 88H (COMENT) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 9aH (GRPDEF) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 8cH (EXTDEF) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: a0H (LEDATA) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 9cH (FIXUPP) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 90H (PUBDEF) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0013: Unprogrammed Record Type: 8aH (MODEND) in file = 'FIRST.OBJ' warning wrt0005: No Stack Segment UNDEFINED SYMBOL(S) AFTER LIBRARY SEARCH: SYMBOL FIRST REFERENCE ------ --------------- '__dyn_used' user-specified (input) warning wrt0022: .EXE may not execute properly -- undefined symbols error ecl0009: Program not Nantucket format, can't link. -------------------- end of error snip = ------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:09:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Good news - bad news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> I don't think so. I think lowering upgrade and used palmtop prices will help keep the palmtop alive longer. If the rumor about soon lowering ugprade prices is true, it is a pro-active move. We do a lot of upgrades at the current prices. In fact we are now a little backlogged and have had to hire another tech in anticipation of steady or increased business. Hal at Thaddeus -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:00:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Don't wanna put a damper on this but...... all this is gonna cost a coupla big bucks and Alabamy is done broke. Alabama just became a nuclear power.. Iraq it ain't. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:28:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Byron Cook Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Byron Cook Subject: Re: Owners Manual Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The manual for the EXP ThinFax can be found in PDF format at www.expnet.com/know.nsf/Manual?OpenView. I also think that EXP has a great web site for support and ordering. > Jeff, I don't think you can change the font. You can try contacting > them at support@expcomputer.com but you better be VERY patient. Lifetime > warranty, you know... > > Mikhail > > > Does anyone on the list have an owners manual for the old EXP ThinFax > > software or more specifically does anyone who is currently using the = ThinFax > > software know how to change the font size for faxes? > > > > 73 Jeff > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:48:47 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Modem power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I made some tests with very interesting results. I wanted to know, who much power my Megahertz XJ1144 drains, if I leave it plugged into the palmtop, and if it makes any difference, if the modem is configured for IO or not. All tests were performed on my unmodified backup 100LX running in a constant loop, never going into light sleep. I always used the same pair of fresh charged 800mAh PANASONIC NiCds. Here are the results: performed test hours (equal to) mA -------------------------------------------------- no modem plugged in 11.5 70 configured XJ1144 plugged in 7.7 104 unconfigured XJ1144 plugged in 4.2 190 That means, it makes a big difference, if the XJ1144 is configured for IO or not. The configured additional power consumption is 34mA, which is close to the 40mA power consumption stated for stanby mode in the modem's user reference guide, whereas the unconfigured modem sucks additional 120mA, which are close to the 130mA stated for operating mode of the modem. Unfortunately the modem doesn't seem to use it's sleep mode (15mA) which I would have expected. The conclusion for me is, to use LXCIC resident so that the modem is always configured if plugged into the palmtop. I don't know if my results also apply to other modems. Make your own tests and let us know! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:15:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Girls and their LXs Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Living in Oregon now, where reading the paper while shaving at full > freeway speeds during a downpoar is much more challenging > Hey, neighbor, move on north and get to do it in even less daylight! Seattle, calling....... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:33:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Sommer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Sommer Subject: Re: Modem power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE073F.43B4A980" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE073F.43B4A980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, thanks for taking time to find these figures. I'm interest in = the numbers because I have the same modem you do. I was wondering if = setting the S24 register was for the standby mode or sleep mode?=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE¨ Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 2:49 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Modem power drain I made some tests with very interesting results. I wanted to know, who much power my Megahertz XJ1144 drains, if I leave it plugged into the palmtop, and if it makes any difference, if the modem is configured for IO or not. All tests were performed on my unmodified backup 100LX running in a constant loop, never going into light sleep. I always used the same pair of fresh charged 800mAh PANASONIC NiCds. Here are the results: performed test hours (equal to) mA -------------------------------------------------- no modem plugged in 11.5 70 configured XJ1144 plugged in 7.7 104 unconfigured XJ1144 plugged in 4.2 190 That means, it makes a big difference, if the XJ1144 is configured for IO or not. The configured additional power consumption is 34mA, which is close to the 40mA power consumption stated for stanby mode in the modem's user reference guide, whereas the unconfigured modem sucks additional 120mA, which are close to the 130mA stated for operating mode of the modem. Unfortunately the modem doesn't seem to use it's sleep mode (15mA) which I would have expected. The conclusion for me is, to use LXCIC resident so that the modem is always configured if plugged into the palmtop. I don't know if my results also apply to other modems. 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Cavendish" Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: egwong@NETCOM.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-03 14:11:10 EST, you write: << Of course a rectangle isn't a plane because a rectangle has boundaries, which really muddle things up >> So you are saying that for best economy, I should buy material without bourdaries? Is there a discount for leaving them off? Is this principle transferable to memory cards? Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 11:59:33 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Watson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Watson Subject: Win 3.0 on the lx? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a 1meg LX with a 10meg sandisk card. How are do you find the speed of the lx when you have windows installed?. Isn't it slow?. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:07:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM On 11-03 11:25am, the following was written: > That's right people, it's much more sinister. He's obviously acquired > a truckload of ex-Soviet nuclear missiles! Below I've added in his > devious plot to his original message (which he conveniently left unsaid): Hey guys/gals..... please don't tell anyone 'bout my scheme and I'll let you have plenty of advanced warning as to where and when 'it' will happen. You know.... I thought this was going to be a simple project, but it's amazing the math and calculations that are required just to move circle around within a square... if nothing else, at least I'm honing my math skills. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:11:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: david@HPLX.NET On 11-03 11:47am, the following was written: > Man, you guys live exciting lives down there in Alabama! You better believe it! Heck... it was just the other day when Mack and I were sitting down out by our moonshine still talking about how they were gonna pave some of the roads in the near future! 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:10:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Comments: To: mack@times2tech.com On 11-03 11:33am, the following was written: >Actually it's really for calculating the number of bullet holes a sheriffs >car could take before weakening its structure. Or.... how many the bad guy's could take :) 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:41:05 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Searching for good ISP for Goin' Postal Comments: To: Steven Lawson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using Windows' "WINIPCFG" I found out that my ISP's DNS address is 198.6.1.3. I placed this information in the LOCALE setup screen in "Goin'Postal", and tried again... The same thing happened. Here's the output: ****** atz OK ATDT5978996 negotiating PPP Connection CHAP authentication failed. (sometimes this line doesn't appear) PPP Link is down, driver not installed. Cannot access packet driver, terminating Terminating PPP connection Packet driver terminator version 11.1 copyright 1998-... etc... ****** Does this mean that I can't get a CHAP connections via PPP.... and therefore Goin' Postal won't work with MSN? Are there other alternatives? Should I switch ISPs (gag)? Can anyone help? Thanks, Tony =) -----Original Message----- From: Steven Lawson To: olsena@email.msn.com Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:46 AM Subject: Re: Searching for good ISP for Goin' Postal >> I'm currently using MSN for my Insternet Service Provider (ISP) >> (*Gasp!* *Sigh!* NOOO!!), > >That's ok. Even MSN people have someone lower to pick on - AOL'ers :-) > >> but it doesn't support DNS configuration, >> which Goin' Postal apparently needs to run... > >Actually, everybody supports DNS. In fact, I would think that MSN >would support auto-config of DNS info (since MS did the spec for it). >Goin' Postal doesn't support auto-config, but that's ok. Follow the >instructions for getting your DNS info from Win95 in the setup >instructions and place that/those numbers into GP's Locale screen. > >> Also it needs to establish a PPP connection. > >PPP is standard, everybody uses it. The big question is if MSN (being >Microsoft) allows standard PAP/CHAP logins instead of their own stupid >"MS CHAP". Have you actually tried going online with GP yet? If it >fails to load the packet driver, follow the instructions for starting >up the debug files and send me the PPP.LOG for analysis. > >> What ISP out there supports this stuff? > >Everybody, but some ISPs are more helpful than others. Some give all >the info you need (dns, smtp, pop, etc), while others tell you nothing >and if you call them they simply say "we only work with Windows - goodbye" > >> What are all of you out there using with Goin' Postal? > >I'm currently on Earthlink for my travelling ISP (as well as using them >to host my GP page). I was on Worldnet but they go overboard on security >(yes, it's possible to have too much) > >One thing I like about Earthlink is that they give you all the gory >details on the web page when you sign up - DNS, SMTP, POP, Login name >and password, etc. No having to guess because it's all burried in a >canned package which a tech won't tell you about. On the other hand, >I also have happy users on Netcom, Compuserve, and a bunch of others. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:17:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Win 3.0 on the lx? Comments: To: jwatson@INTERLOG.COM On 09-12 12:59pm, the following was written: > I have a 1meg LX with a 10meg sandisk card. > > How are do you find the speed of the lx when you have windows > installed?. > Isn't it slow?. Not really. It seems to run quite happily on my LX. Good luck! 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:39:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Searching for good ISP for Goin' Postal Comments: To: olsena@email.msn.com On 11-03 12:41am, the following was written: > Using Windows' "WINIPCFG" I found out that my ISP's DNS address is > 198.6.1.3. I placed this information in the LOCALE setup screen in > "Goin'Postal", and tried again... Have you tried dialing your provider with a terminal emulation program or using the built-in DataComm program on the LX? Sometimes just seeing what's happening can be very helpful and informative. When I dial my provider and want a PPP connection I must put a .ppp after my username (jeffj.ppp) and when I just want to access the shell I don't put the .ppp (jeff). I personally see know of no reason why it wouldn't be possible to come up with a script to make GP work. Once you get GP working, you'll really enjoy it. Good luck! 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: CCMail: Import to Local Address Book? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: Does anyone know of a way to import an address list from an ASCII file to the Local Address Book in CCMail? TIA & Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:31:53 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Availability of Microsoft Project for DOS Comments: To: Peter Maddern In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT try http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn/download/msproj40.zip and tell me what you think about it. regards Alain > Claud, assuming Project 4 for DOS for the 200LX is on Jeff John's site, do > you or anyone out there know the URL please? I searched the heck out of > the web for Jeff John's site with no luck. I also searched the heck out of > the web for Microsoft project 4 for DOS with zero success? > > Anyone have a source for MS Project 4 for DOS and any info on it's > functionality? > Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:27 +0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "SEKIYAMA, Kenji (Sekky)" <961018x@ASU.AASA.AC.JP> Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "SEKIYAMA, Kenji (Sekky)" <961018x@ASU.AASA.AC.JP> Subject: Grammar / Style checker for LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear List Members, Would anyone recommend some (English) grammar / style checking softwares which work well on 200LX? I heard that Grammatik for DOS was fine, but it's impossible to get it in Japan. Regards, Kenji Kenji Sekiyama (Aichi Shukutoku University, Nagoya, Japan) Email: 961018x@asu.aasa.ac.jp -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:56:59 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: South Park video for lx? Comments: To: Darren Frick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stepping back a little, and having missed part of the beginning of this thread,... where can I get the program needed to a) convert AVI/MOV to EVA, and b) view EVA files on my LX? Cool! =) Tony ferris@myself.com -----Original Message----- From: Darren Frick To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Sunday, November 01, 1998 9:27 PM Subject: Re: South Park video for lx? > I think South Park would be perfect for an lx video! > > The graphics are simple, so it should compress well; and I think you > could get the gist of the swearing despite it being distorted. > > I'm hoping this will inspire someone who doesn't have exams right now . > A short snippet of Cartman being selfish? > > "I can't possibly eat all this delicious chocolate cake all by myself > Ýlong pause¨ oh, maybe I can" > > It would be very cool. > > -- You talkin EVA format? that would be good kwality. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:10:33 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the biggest thing is that I fear the 2.x really isn't as good as 3.0, despite what everyone is saying... Just the fact that I had never heard of it before makes me worry it's not as good. I thought the "on a 286+ it can run standard and enhanced mode."-improvement was between 3.0 and 3.1... Tony -----Original Message----- From: hplx To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 6:37 AM Subject: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x >Several people ask that I provide Win 3.0 on my page, where I have already >provided win 2.x with word/excel/draw, etc. > >Please remember two things: >1) Win 2.x runs the same applications that win 3.0, the only advantage of >3.0 being that on a 286+ it can run standard and enhanced mode. (Not >possible on the LX) >2) Win 2.x installs smaller than 3.0. > >What reasons do you all want 3.0 when 2.x serves just as well? Good >justification will convince me to remove 2.x and put up 3.0... >---- >http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:27:17 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: He or She, warez, circles, infra keyboard, etc. In-Reply-To: from "Feher Tamas" at Nov 3, 98 10:07:28 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Then get this SW from anywhere (friend, warez. etc.) I gather "warez" is software with cracked copy protection. Is that right? Oh, and how do you pronounce it? "Where As"? > fastest motion & "ghosting" Star Wars runs fast on the lx. It has a "boss" mode that makes it look like you are doing serious work. This mode includes a superficial menu system. One of the menus gives a very nice 3D animation of the logo of the game co. (Borland, I think...) It looks very, very good on the lx. The game itself is 3D wireframe, and runs *way* too fast. The demo I is shaded polygons, and is a bit slow, but looks nice. -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:47:19 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are 3 dice, A, B and C. They are normal in the sense that they are 6-sided, but that have an unusual set of numbers numbers, such that (on average) A beats B, B beats C, and C beats A. Stated another way, if I ask you to choose one of them, I can always chose one of the remaining two such that I beat you (over enough throws - say 20). "Beating" means that the number thrown on one dice beats the number thrown on the other (ie just what you's expect). PUZZLE: I've been told that this is possible, but I can't work out what arrangement of numbers are needed. In fact, I'm not even sure that it's possible. Anyone know, or about to prove it one way or the other? -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:52:26 -0300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LP Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LP Subject: CIH MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Warning, someone here is playing with CIH 1075 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:09:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: CIH Comments: To: LP In-Reply-To: <000101be07a6$898653c0$9708e818@lprado> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, LP wrote: > Hi, > Warning, someone here is playing with CIH 1075 Huh? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:37:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean Hoger Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean Hoger Subject: Re: Clipper's RTLink MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't tried Clipper 5.x, but the Summer '87 version works fine if just a tad slow. This one uses PLink86. Sean -----Original Message----- From: Donald Collins To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 3:29 PM Subject: Clipper's RTLink I'm trying to use Clipper on my 200LX so I can create a Dbase III/IV viewer/editor specifically for the LX. My problem is that I cant get RTLink to work. I get the same errors regardless which program I'm trying to link. Clipper compiles OK. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:01:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Charles E. Sutherland" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Charles E. Sutherland" Subject: Re: Nokia 6150 & 200LX IR Connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE077E.1A14D840" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE077E.1A14D840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just realized yesterday, it'd be cool if I could transfer phone numbers = from 200LX to the mobile (Nokia 6150) phone. I also have a Nokia 6150 and read that Outlook Express can transfer = phone numbers from the address book to the Nokia 6150. So there has to = be a communications protocol that allows that to occur. 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It great for backing up file weekly. Recently I upgraded my Notebook to a Compaq Armada 4160T, the sad thing is that convinence is now gone - Compaq Care tells me that the note book does not support IRC in DOS. Now have to return to my cable file transfer. Anyone have similar experience, and have any suggestion. Next has anyone seen the HP820 palmtop, read some newspaper article about it, seems quite interesting. Wonder if it will do IRC comm with the 100LX. Best regards Philip Singapore ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:35:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: CIH In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Warning, someone here is playing with CIH 1075 Sounds like a macro virus, in an attachment? What are the symptoms? I can't find this exact name in my latest virus list from Norton Antivirus (dated 10/28/98). -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:44:04 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: HP820 In-Reply-To: <19981104060116.24125.qmail@www08.netaddress.usa.net> from "PHILIP KHOO" at Nov 4, 98 02:01:16 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Next has anyone seen the HP820 palmtop, read some newspaper article about it, > seems quite interesting. Wonder if it will do IRC comm with the 100LX. My search engine told me: http://209.50.34.4/top1000/900.html but it's not happening right now. Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:48:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: CCMail: Import to Local Address Book? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this mean you have found a use for the built-in cc:mail?? Do tell us... But getting back to the question, I use cc:mail on the desktop and I receive directory updates (much too often). The files have a format like: Name: BLOGGS, FRED Ýx400_address_parameters¨ Locn: L Addr: name_of_postoffice Cmts: any_comments-you_want Now perhaps the cc:mADE function in the lx can be made to read a file in like this? Good luck jez >From: Al Kind > >Does anyone know of a way to import an address list from an ASCII >file to the Local Address Book in CCMail? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:53:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jez.Cunningham@ALCATEL.FR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jez Cunningham Subject: Modem power drain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Text" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan I suspect you are measuring the current taken from the batteries (at ~2.5V for NiCd) whereas the modem will be specified with its current consumption at 5V. The lx has an internal converter from batteries or a/c adaptor to 5V and so you should divide the battery current BY TWO to see what is the modem current. In fact the converter is probably only 80-90% efficient so the correct factor is more than two. It means that a sleeping modem at 15mA would show as >30mA at the battery. Keep up the interesting measurements... jez Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:48:47 +0000 From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Modem power drain I made some tests with very interesting results. I wanted to know, who much power my Megahertz XJ1144 drains, I always used the same pair of fresh charged 800mAh PANASONIC NiCds. Here are the results: performed test hours (equal to) mA -------------------------------------------------- no modem plugged in 11.5 70 configured XJ1144 plugged in 7.7 104 unconfigured XJ1144 plugged in 4.2 190 The configured additional power consumption is 34mA, which is close to the 40mA power consumption stated for stanby mode in the modem's user reference guide, whereas the unconfigured modem sucks additional 120mA, which are close to the 130mA stated for operating mode of the modem. Unfortunately the modem doesn't seem to use it's sleep mode (15mA) which I would have expected. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:09:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Land, Ken" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Land, Ken" Subject: Outlook 98 Sync Software? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know of software that will allow "syncing" of Outlook 98 to the 200LX? Regards, Ken Land ProShare(R) Systems Engineer Intel Corporation ken.land@intel.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:32:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kymberly Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kymberly Carleton Subject: Hello? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone. =) Just joined this list after finding information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) <=Kym=> \>o, James Scheffler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Scheffler Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104003231.007a44d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:32 AM 11/04/1998 -0800, you wrote: >Hello everyone. =) Just joined this list after finding >information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX >about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. Welcome aboard, Kym. You've just purchased one of the most versatile tools around... treat it with respect, and darnit, watch out for the hinge crack! R. James Scheffler -and- Srakkt-Hrairh ****************** "Do you like your spleen? I can make a nice little hat of it for you." -Srakkt-Hrairh http://www.tiac.net/users/srakkt/ E-mail:srakkt@tiac.net -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:06:10 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello everyone. =3D) Just joined this list after finding > information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX > about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. > > ---------- > /\_/\ > ( o o ) <=3DKym=3D> > \>o Welcome, I think you'll really enjoy the list. Also, on the web check out: http://www.palmtop.net the "S.U.P.E.R." site, 200lx file repository, and: http://www.hplx.com Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:13:27 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Outlook 98 Sync Software? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Been asked a few times here. Short answer is no, there is nothing you can buy. There are several workrounds, mostly involve using Intellisync from Puma to synch the LX with Schedule+, and then import the schedule into Outlook. It requires you to operate the LX as 'master' so not helpful if you work for a company that uses Outlook calendar tied in with the e-mail to set up appointments. You can export from Outlook but it is very slow, has to go to Schedule+ via a CSV (flat) file and you lose some information, e.g. repeating appointments are fanned out. Then when you do the reverse synch they are seen as different and get duplicated. So there is a deal of cleaning up required. I do that, effectively Schedule+ is the master. Out there in this group there's a least a couple of people who are writing the tool of your dreams. If you know the CEO of Puma, tell him to do the decent thing and produce a product - it would be so easy for them as they have both 'halves' of the required product. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:35:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Software modem: what's it? Abandonware, M$ AT&T-ed Hello all, If you know a good primer/brief description of what is a software modem; please provide me a pointer. Abandon-ware: if you use the software only for personal purposes, not making profit; then there is no problem. If you must use eg. Excel 2.1 for job than that's a different case. But I still need to spot one single case M$ sued anyone over using 'abandoneware' illegally. That is nonsense. They can pay as many lawyers as they want; but the number of people who are familiar with intellectual property issues is limited in USA and world. I think they can find more profiting targets for M$ to attack. And M$ never did anything to prevent personal theft. If you use their program and do not gain profit, they are not hurt. If you make business you'll participate in an amnesty program/buy SW as your reputation can be hurt by illegal SW. They grew big this way. M$ makes most revenue selling SW to whole companies. And one/two person using 'abandonware' out of 500-10000 employees likely to unnoticed. BTW, palmtop form factor and MS-DOS further improbabilizes a find-out. How many BSA guys can use MS-DOS, or list out a directory with hidden attribute? How do they connect to your palmtop? I am sure 99% would not be able to exit Filer alone. I hope finally M$ will be AT&T-d, as that would cause a great chaos in software development, preferable for these reasons: First: pace of new SW/HW releases would slow down; recent whirlwind of development is overkill. Second: a move towards intervendor connectivity and open specs. for internal programmer's interfaces would help LX programming. Both extending the palmtop lifespan. Maybe, third: WinCE extinction. I bet the only strong alternative is EPOC32/Symbion, still better than 'crippled edition'. But the whole copyright issue is theoretical for palmtoppers. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:54:45 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Software modem: what's it? Abandonware, M$ AT&T-ed Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello all, > > If you know a good primer/brief description of what is a software > modem; please provide me a pointer. > A software modem uses a sound card as the modulator / demodulator instead = of a regular modem. I have heard of these being used with packet radio = setups in combo with something from the serial port being used to key the mic on the radio. I can't see much "real" use for these contraptions, other that "because it can be done". Darren. > "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:24:07 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Software modem: what's it? Abandonware, M$ AT&T-ed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Software modems make more sense with Digital phones (e.g. GSM) as you have a digital PC talking to a digital datastream. There is no point going via analogue (sound). I guess all they are doing is some protocol conversion from a serial RS232/ASCII type stream to something that travels long-haul better. Note sure what but folk talk about HDB3, NRZI etc - I guess packeteers will have all this under control too. Once new GSM standards ship as products, with >9600 baud rates they should become seriously useful. There's also a move to use DECT phones for short-range (campus) operation, and there are already phones that are GSM/DECT combined. Thus you will be able to use a PC with a software modem to either connect to your corporate LAN as a wireless client (DECT) or a remote dial-in (GSM). -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:47:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dean Mintzer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dean Mintzer Subject: holder for 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Several years ago I purchased a small but very efficient case for my machine. It included a plastic tray that held the 200 by two edges along the top and bottom. Alas, it is broken now and I would love to replace it but I have not seen any. Any help appreciated Dean -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:41:00 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: Brian Sugita MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have an apointment file called "compras.adb" (it's shopping in Portuguese), and I just insert one to-do for each item. And in the supermarket I keep my LX open on the baby-chair of the shopping wagon, and press Space each time I get an item into the Wagon (mark to-do as done). And I can go shopping without forgetting half of the things! Brian Sugita wrote: > > Hi all, I'm looking for a good shopping list program > for dos for my 200LX. Preferably one that allows > you to check off things you have bought. Does > anyone know of any software like this. I hate to > speak of the dark side, but there was a great one > for the palm pilot called jshopper. Thanks all! > > Brian S > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > kaervek@ix.netcom.com > > ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- +-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio | A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706 Fax: +49.30.7002 4780 +---------------+ mailto:Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:18:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104003231.007a44d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Kymberly Carleton wrote: > Hello everyone. =) Just joined this list after finding > information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX > about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. Welcom aboard Kym! 73 Jeff KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:19:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104003231.007a44d0@popd.ix.netcom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Kymberly Carleton wrote: > Hello everyone. =) Just joined this list after finding > information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX > about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. Actually I meant 'welcome" aboard.... I wonder if the uranium from my Soviet missles is affecting my spelling ability?!? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:36:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Hello? WELCOME, CHEERS, HURRAH! Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:42:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: CIH Who is the sender of this note?????? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:50:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Meisner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Meisner Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: To: Al Kind In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there are any sort of cc:Mail connectivity pieces that allow a x00LX to connect but be a front end to something like a POP server? Something like: a 200LX connects to a server via the internal cc:Mail component, and retrieves mail waiting on a POP server. Steve -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Al Kind Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 11:30 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability 39m21s ago ... On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote: > Anyone know of any available public cc:mail servers for use with the > 100/200 LXs? > See: http://www.palmtop.com Works Great! Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:54:59 -0500 Reply-To: baclyde@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brenda Clyde Organization: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab Subject: Replying to messages in digest version MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Is there a good way to reply to messages in the digest version of the list automatically using netscape. Right now i cut and paste the address and text to a new message but this seems kind of kludgy. I also would like to reduce the size of what i archive so i need to find a way to delete unwanted messages out of the digest in netscape. Any ideas? Thanks, Brenda -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:31:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe In-Reply-To: <19981105.074248.13862.24.hobchi@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just found this file compression program. I've been using diet, but check this out: original ppt.exe = 162,344 bytes dieted ppt.exe = 72,692 bytes apacked ppt.exe = 61,567 bytes This is just my first test but wanted to let people know it might be worth investigating. apack is at ftp:\\ftp.cdrom.com\pub\sac\pack\apack094.zip Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:35:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Hello? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Kymberly Carleton wrote: > > > Hello everyone. =) Just joined this list after finding > > information about it on the web. I just got a 200LX > > about a week ago and wanted to find out more about it. > > Actually I meant 'welcome" aboard.... I wonder if the uranium from my > Soviet missles is affecting my spelling ability?!? Nope, but the Uranium might be randomly inverting bits in your HP's memory... Cheers, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:43:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: CIH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Warning, someone here is playing with CIH 1075 >Huh? According to http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/data/cih.html, CIH.1075 is a member of the family of CIH viruses. I quote: W95.CIH is a virus that infects Windows 95 executables (files with .EXE extension). When an infected program is run, the virus goes memory resident. W95.CIH then infects new files when they are opened (e.g. when they are run copied). This means that an infected system must be rebooted from a clean system disk before scanning with NAV, or any anti-virus product -- if this is not done, the virus will infect every file that the anti-virus product scans. Infected files are the same size as the original files, due to W95.CIH's unique mode of infection: First, it looks for empty, unused spaces in the file; then, it breaks itself up into smaller pieces, and hides in these unused spaces. NAV is able to repair an infected file by looking for these viral pieces and removing them from the file. W95.CIH has a destructive payload that is triggered on the 26th of the month; this payload may cause the entire contents of the system's hard drive to be lost. It's not clear to me that the original poster became infected via messages from this List, as it seems the vector can only be another infected executable ( .EXE) and executables are not posted here. B. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:45:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: CCMail: Import to Local Address Book? Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Al and list. I'd be a little leery of using the cc:Mail address book. According to the docs for Qua!/LX, there is a bug in at least the earlier versions of cc:Mail Mobile for the 100LX which can cause nasty things to your disk (corrupt the FAT). I have what I think is a pretty good compromise. I programmed in a macro which (when the Phone Book is open) copies the email address field of the curently highlighted selection (I don't even know if the default Phone Book entry has an email field; if it doesn't, I added one.) to the clipboard and pastes it in the To: line of a new cc:Mail message. Hope this helps. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:49:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Palmtop Computer Lite MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: In cleaning out my office, I found an old ASF PCL 300 palmtop lamp collecting dust. - comes w/ case - DC vehicle adapter w/ hi-lo dimmer - spare bulbs see http://www.std.com/asf1/3b.pcl_dc.html For complete description. Retail is $30+ship, but you can own this one for $? ...make me an offer! Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:48:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My $ 0.02: I have run across a number of share/free ware programs (mainly games, but useful stuff as well) which will only run on Win3.0 and up. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Starwars on the 200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've had no luck running Starwars. I found two different STARWARS.ZIPs of it on the net, one containing STARWARS.EXE and STARWARS.HSC, the other containing TENGEN.EXE and STARWARS.HSC. I've tried running it in pure DOS, having quit the Application Manager, and I've tried it with or without the CGA switch In either case, the program locks up at the title screen, regardless of whether I "press F1 to toggle between mouse, joystick and keyboard" and a hard boot is required. Am I missing something silly? Otherwise, can someone point me to a "known good" copy of STARWARS? > Star Wars runs fast on the lx. It has a "boss" mode that makes it look > like you are doing serious work. This mode includes a superficial menu system. > One of the menus gives a very nice 3D animation of the logo of the game > co. (Borland, I think...) It looks very, very good on the lx. > > The game itself is 3D wireframe, and runs *way* too fast. The demo I is > shaded polygons, and is a bit slow, but looks nice. B. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:05:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kym, welcum 2 r lzt - nobudy splez write in der messges - fter a wile u du it outomticly O - b sur 2 kep on da gud side of de law in jefferson co, 'bama !!! jim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:15:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , River Wolf Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: River Wolf Subject: Re: HP820 In-Reply-To: <199811040744.SAA14837@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just got to play with an 820 Jornada at Networld + Interop. The funny thing was the HP guys knew nothing about it, but Microsoft was using one to demonstrate CE. Overall a nice device (for CE), though for the same money I'd go with the Sharp Tripad. The Tripad gets a '10' for ultra-cool looks and functionality since it can use keyboard input ala a regular CE device, or the screen can be folded flat to do pen-only input. The 820 looks and functions just like a regular laptop. As for IR, I can't say if it works with the 100lx. The 820 has an IR port, but the controls and software for the port are rather simple. --Patrick McGouirk Computer Systems Administrator 13WMAZ rivrwolf@hom.net At 06:44 PM 11/4/98 +1100, you wrote: >> Next has anyone seen the HP820 palmtop, read some newspaper article about it, >> seems quite interesting. Wonder if it will do IRC comm with the 100LX. > >My search engine told me: > http://209.50.34.4/top1000/900.html >but it's not happening right now. > >Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 > Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:16:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Palmtop Computer Lite MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:15:53 -0500 (EST) 26m34s ago ... On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Al Kind wrote: > Hi All: > > In cleaning out my office, I found an old ASF PCL 300 palmtop lamp > collecting dust... Already spoken for, Thanks! Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:20:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) Why is it that (almost) evrybodies hare is uses badd substandard english? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:25:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Brendan; Yes it is possible. Scientific American's Math- ematical Recreations column has covered it a number of times. Wrote a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet for this. To make it easy, no two dice share the same number (this Prevents ties). Puzzle Dice (sum) Set A 1 5 6 10 14 15, 51 Set B 0 4 8 9 13 17, 51 Set C 2 3 7 11 12 16, 51 Set A Beats Set B 52.7% of the time. Set B Beats Set C 52.7% of the time. Set C Beats Set A 52.7% of the time. If I made no mistakes.... I can send you the spread- sheet if you want. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:37 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle Comments: To: Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit If possible, could I have it....I teach AutoCAD and this could be an extra credit project. Thanks Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:44:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cliff Crittenden Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Subject: Re: CCMail: Import to Local Address Book? Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anybody confirm if this could be a problem with the 200LX TIA Cliff Crittenden On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, James P. Grenert wrote: > Hi, Al and list. > > I'd be a little leery of using the cc:Mail address book. According to the > docs for Qua!/LX, there is a bug in at least the earlier versions of > cc:Mail Mobile for the 100LX which can cause nasty things to your disk > (corrupt the FAT). -snip- > J. P. Grenert > grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I haven't found anything that I haven't been able to accomplish with the LX > yet..... if I can talk to Russian Space Stations with it on a daily basis, > surely I can calculate the number of circles and the arrangement of circles > with the LX. > 73 Jeff Jeff; Oooo, a challenge? The current issue of Scientific American has a project right up your alley. The Amateur Scientist column wants a design for a buoy that transmits back its position and some environmental information for about a month, and then biodegrades or at least goes away politely. They mention low cost GPS, packet radios, and other design suggestions. With the built-in battery logic of the 200LX/1000CX, some of their caveats may not apply and instead of about a month of use, the buoy could recharge and last five to ten times longer. This would make it cost effective to embed a 80186 computer in it. The reason I bring this up is: 1) If you accidentaly designed a heavy duty buoy using a 200LX as its controller that exceeded their wildest dreams. 2) They build say a thousand of them. And 3) to save weight and power, you design it so only the main board is used. Then 4) you've got about a thousand spare screens, keyboards, battery lids, case hinges, and case latches to "give" to someone that need such. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:52:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Why is it that (almost) evrybodies hare is uses >badd substandard english? > >Semper mobilis, >yor pal al :-) ............. Perhaps because some of the most prolific posters set such a bad example? :-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Wong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Wong Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981104102614.19ff890e@204.49.39.2> from "Steve Novosad" at Nov 4, 98 11:25:40 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Aside from Steve's excellent demonstration, there's a more general solution at http://xraysgi.ims.uconn.edu:8080/rpa-output/probability/transitivity.s Personally, I like the solution a: 3 3 3 3 3 3 b: 5 5 2 2 2 2 c: 4 4 4 4 1 1 One disadvantage is that with this arrangement, the probabilities are no longer even, but, um, the smaller numbers are easier for my Sleep-Deprived-Early-Morning Brain to comprehend :) Hmm. I should probably say something more substantial, so I'll add a perl script so you can check different possible solutions. Eric ------- #!/usr/bin/perl -w @d0=( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 ); # die A @d1=( 5, 5, 2, 2, 2, 2 ); # B-th die @d2=( 4, 4, 4, 4, 1, 1 ); # C $iterations = 25000; # number of trials $ab = $bc = $ca = 0; # xy, number of times x beats y for ($i=0; $i<$iterations; $i++) { ($a, $b, $c) = ($d0Ýint(rand(6))¨, $d1Ýint(rand(6))¨, $d2Ýint(rand(6))¨); if ($a>$b) { $ab++; } if ($b>$c) { $bc++; } if ($c>$a) { $ca++; } } printf "Final winning percentages:\n". " A beats B: %.2f\n". " B beats C: %.2f\n". " C beats A: %.2f\n", $ab/$i, $bc/$i, $ca/$i; -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:36:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Why is it that (almost) evrybodies hare is uses > badd substandard english? > Your examples perhaps. I note that when you have a serious question, you lapse into "standard" text. Why not do that all of the time? Sorry, but you did just provide the perfect opening to raise the issue. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , DENNIS BELL Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: DENNIS BELL Subject: ISP FAQ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Dennis Bell (doppelbike@yahoo.com) To: HPLX mailgroup Re: FAQ for ISP's For the last four years I have been connecting to the internet via my company's dial in modem server and using LYNX (via emulator) to access the www. Recent upgrades to the modem server have disabled DOS access to the modem server, so I am now out of possibilities through work. I am interested in putting together a FAQ detailing the various ISP possibilities that can be used with the LX. To that end I would like to solicit from the group exactly how each of you uses your LX to connect to the internet. Before actually soliciting your ISP information, I would like to know if there is any additional data that anyone in the group would like to see. I will try to accomodate any useful suggestions, without making the template too large. When I have the final template done I will send it to the list, requesting you all reply directly to me, and I will collate it and write up a FAQ for AL and/or Mitch to place out in the public domain. Send me your suggestions. Right now, my template looks like the following, but hold off sending the ISP info, till we have the template in its most useful form. DB ========================= Your name (and info) Access through ISP or at work If through work, please elaborate... Using Reflection for DOS (emulator) on my 2mb single speed 200LX with XJ1144, I dial in to the company modem Server (with password) connect to our HPUX host and login to my account. I then run LYNX for access to the WWW and PINE for email. LYNX offers no graphics but it does rather well at showing text. However in this age of JAVA and frames, I think this method's days are numbered. In any case, I have recently been bumped off the modem server by system software that is DOS unaware. DB or, if through ISP, complete the following... ISP: Address: City/State/Zip: Phone: Email: WWW: service offerings email www shell accounts home page desktop/graphics also telephone access toll free (extra $$) local dialup toll call costs Software needed for access www/lx nettamer Goin' Postal emulator comm program other _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:11:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: Shopping List software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paulo - does this mean that you make your list anew each time? > I have an apointment file called "compras.adb" (it's shopping in > Portuguese), and I just insert one to-do for each item. And in the > supermarket I keep my LX open on the baby-chair of the shopping wagon, > and press Space each time I get an item into the Wagon (mark to-do as > done). > > And I can go shopping without forgetting half of the things! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:16:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David L Sprinkle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David L Sprinkle Subject: ST card and LXCIC Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, James P. Grenert wrote: > back then. Your SimpleTech flash card is the real culprit. If you can > spare the loss in flash card speed, load LXCIC (available on SUPER) > resident from your AUTOEXEC.BAT file. It will really slow your ST card > down, but you can speed it up to Sandisk card levels (older, full-size > Sandisk cards; the newer ones may be faster) by holding down the ALT or > CTRL keys. Unfortunately, it will never run as fast as it does without > LXCIC loaded. The good side is that your battery life will go to much > more reasonable levels. My 2X 5MB 200LX now runs for around 14 hours with Hello: What switches do you use when loading LXCIC via the Autoexec.bat? I have 32mb 2x with a 48 mb ST card with which I also have the the short battery life problem. I measure the current draw from the AC adapter, and find that the current with Filer open, but nothing else running is 53 ma. This is 2x the current that 200 will draw with a 10/20 Ace card or an mt slot. When I load lxcic via the autoexec.bat using lxcic /l, I find that current draw does not change. I also have problems with the 200 hanging up and have to reboot. The current does change when I load lxcic /ld in the autoexec.bat. The current drops to 25 ma from 53 ma, but returns to 53 when I turn the 200 off/on. I can putup with the slow card problem, but I would like to be able to keep the palmtop in the low current draw mode. Any help would be appreciated. Dave Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu Indiana University Physics Dept. Swain West Rm. 117 Bloomington, IN 47405 (812) 855-0347 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:51:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Byron Cook Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Byron Cook Subject: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Microsoft now has a web site for obtaining permission to legally "downgrad= e" to a previous versions of their software at www.microsoft.com/permission/request/default.asp. They must be trying to provide an alternative to the "abandonware" arguement. There is no mention on the site how you could obtain an actual copy of the software unless a friend gave you a copy of the program. I have also noticed that Symantec offers previous versions of PCAnyWhere32 on the latest CD-ROM. So it is possible to legally obtain the older DOS version of the software just by buying the CD-ROM version of the latest software. I don't know why other companies don't do this as most programs do not fill the full 640 MB's of space that is available on a CD-ROM and it would be such a marketing advantage. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:43:41 -0500 Reply-To: bobp@fpk.hp.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Phillips Organization: Hewlett-Packard NJ Development Lab Subject: EXP ThinFax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, I have an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem that I have acquired as part of a deal. The problem is that it lacks the necessary modem cable. EXP wants $18 for the cable (I think this is a bit steep, but then they also want $49 for the modem, which is a 2400 baud data modem with 9600 bps Send/4800 bps Receive capability and built-in FAX software. It must be great software :¬)) In any event, if you have a cable for the thing that you would part with (for less than $18), I would like to talk to you. Alternately, if you have a burning need for an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem that lacks a cable, I would also like to talk with you. I'm aware that good 14400 baud modems sell for as little as $10 and as much as $30, so I am not under the illusion that I can retire from the profits of this sale. As Kramer says, "interesting trades considered." I speak for myself, not for HP. -- Robert Phillips HP NJ Development Lab VOX:(973)-443-7669 bobp@fpk.hp.com 300 Campus Drive FAX:(973)-443-7432 Florham Park, NJ 07932 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:47:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: ISP FAQ In-Reply-To: <19981104174200.15391.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> from "DENNIS BELL" at Nov 4, 98 09:42:00 am Content-Type: text > For the last four years I have been connecting to > the internet via my company's dial in modem server > and using LYNX (via emulator) to access the www. > Recent upgrades to the modem server have disabled > DOS access to the modem server, so I am now out > of possibilities through work. How does the modem server know what operating system you are using? From what I know about this matter (we run a small ISP here in Huntsville), this doesn't matter at all. All you have to do is handle the communication protocol, whether you're running DOS, UNIX or Windows. And most ISPs that I know of still support dialing in with no OS at all, just a terminal and modem. I can't believe that your ISP doesn't support this! Would you mind boring me with the details (off list if you think appropriate?) I'm curious... -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:46:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAMERICA@FIRMENICH.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Linkowsky Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I completely agree!! It is confusing (annoying) when trying to read messages or comments that don't use real words. Just my two cents. John L. > Why is it that (almost) evrybodies hare is uses > badd substandard english? > Your examples perhaps. I note that when you have a serious question, you lapse into "standard" text. Why not do that all of the time? Sorry, but you did just provide the perfect opening to raise the issue. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:55:54 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: holder for 200lx Comments: To: dmintzer@CSRLINK.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I think the company you are looking for is E & B Company. Good case with the plastic tray....I use one too....no broken or lost anything, by the way! The company is located near (+ -) me in Sacramento. Their number is 1-800-896-2273 in the USA, Web: http://www.ebcases.com There are more phone numbers in Europe, etc. if you need them. Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:09:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton Welcome... Took a pause to spell check.... Seriously - you'll like your 200LX. Don't forget to check out Thaddeus Computing, both online and their monthly mag. about the LX and its uses ! Oh, they're at: http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ You can go to: http://www.thaddeus.com/ and pick either the HP Palmtop paper or their WinCE one... I *LOVE* my palmtop, but love it more because of the shareware I either found or found out about through them Ýthe plug I saw earlier about the SUPER site was a great idea too¨. I find half of what I do is MUCH easier / more enjoyable because of shareware, I tried and almost instantly registered Buddy, because it lets me change how normal typing works Ýyou can quickly double-click a letter and get a capital version, etc.¨ modify LOTS of system settings and change the way the palmtop behaves. I also use PE ÝPalEdit¨ as a word processor that can actually SPELL CHECK(!) and lots of other things found at SUPER etc. You'll find you use the heck out of some functions and never touch others Ýor you may find some new uses for some functions, etc...¨. Give 'em a try and good luck! --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:09:51 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Software modem: what's it? Abandonware, M$ AT&T-ed > Hello all, > > If you know a good primer/brief description of what is a software > modem; please provide me a pointer. > > Abandon-ware: if you use the software only for personal purposes, > not making profit; then there is no problem. If you must use eg. > Excel 2.1 for job than that's a different case. > > But I still need to spot one single case M$ sued anyone over using > 'abandoneware' illegally. That is nonsense. They can pay as many > lawyers as they want; but the number of people who are familiar > with intellectual property issues is limited in USA and world. > I think they can find more profiting targets for M$ to attack. > > And M$ never did anything to prevent personal theft. If you use > their program and do not gain profit, they are not hurt. If you > make business you'll participate in an amnesty program/buy SW as > your reputation can be hurt by illegal SW. They grew big this way. > Just because you don't make a profit at something doesn't make it legal. If I steal your car but only use it for personal transportation is that legal? NO. You can use arguements like that to sooth your guilty conscience but it still is not legal in any form of the word. Granted that MS, or most other companies, are probably not going to hunt you down and prosecute you but it is still ILLEGAL to use software that you have not bought, regardless of the current state of its distribution. You say that a company doesn't loose anything if you use the software illegally but they DID loose something, the revenue from that software's sale. Also, if software is not longer for sale it is probably because something newer came out to replace it, so they loose the sale of the newer software by you ILLEGALLY using the older software. No matter how you try to justify it to yourself you are a theft when you use software you haven't paid for and you are breaking the law. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:13:12 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Software modem: what's it? Abandonware, M$ AT&T-ed > > Hello all, > > > > If you know a good primer/brief description of what is a software > > modem; please provide me a pointer. > > > A software modem uses a sound card as the modulator / demodulator instead of > a regular modem. I have heard of these being used with packet radio setups > in combo with something from the serial port being used to key the mic on > the radio. I can't see much "real" use for these contraptions, other that > "because it can be done". > > Darren. That is not quite right, software modems do not necessarily have anything to do with a sound card. The term "software" modem just refers to the fact that the main CPU is doing the bulk of the processing to modulate and demodulate the signal. Many of the internal modems in WinCE devices are "software" but they still have dedicated hardware to do signal processing, the CPU takes care of the rest of the control functions. There are also "software" modems based around IBM's Mwave technology which is basically a very powerful digital signal processor with its own memory and OS that can be programed to function as a modem, as well as a number of other duties. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:24:03 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question > Oooo, a challenge? The current issue of Scientific American > has a project right up your alley. The Amateur Scientist column > wants a design for a buoy that transmits back its position and some > environmental information for about a month, and then biodegrades > or at least goes away politely. They mention low cost GPS, packet > radios, and other design suggestions. With the built-in battery > logic of the 200LX/1000CX, some of their caveats may not apply and > instead of about a month of use, the buoy could recharge and last > five to ten times longer. This would make it cost effective to > embed a 80186 computer in it. You wouldn't want to use NiCd batteries since Cadmium is toxic so that would not fit the biodegradable idea. Kenwood has a new handheld radio that is coming out that has a packet TNC built in and supports APRS for position determination directly. Then all you would need is a cheap GPS unit for it. With the 200lx connected to the radio for packet transmission and some sensors for environmental information you could do this easily I would think. Use a lead acid (if that is acceptable) battery and solar cells and you could probably get more than a month from it. Of course you could get the same functionality from a basic stamp based microcontroller and the above radio, you don't really need all the features of the 200lx for this simple of a task, especially when the radio handles the TNC and APRS functions. Pete - WB4TKA Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:37 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Abandonware > Microsoft now has a web site for obtaining permission to legally "downgrade" to a previous > versions of their software at > www.microsoft.com/permission/request/default.asp. They must be trying > to provide an alternative to the "abandonware" arguement. There is no > mention on the site how you could obtain an actual copy of the software > unless a friend gave you a copy of the program. > They probably did that in response to all the people that don't want to mess with win98 and want to keep using win95. > I have also noticed that Symantec offers previous versions of PCAnyWhere32 > on the latest CD-ROM. So it is possible to legally obtain the > older DOS version of the software just by buying the CD-ROM version of > the latest software. I don't know why other companies don't do this as > most programs do not fill the full 640 MB's of space that is available > on a CD-ROM and it would be such a marketing advantage. That is a nice feature but you have to understand that most companies don't want old copies of their software in users hands for the simple reason that they don't want to have to support it. I can't say that I blame them, it is hard enough to support the current version of something let alone trying to keep track of all the problems in the last 5 versions. Since software companies have found out the the only way to make money is to come out with a new version every year they could easily be stuck supporting 5 or more versions of a program, some of them very different from the current version. Also, while you can argue that they can just state that they don't support the old version that doesn't stop people from tying up their help lines with questions, and if the distribute the old version with the new one people will assume that they support them all regardless of what the package may state. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:32:22 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: EXP ThinFax > All, > I have an EXP ThinFax Basic LX modem that I have acquired as part > of a deal. The problem is that it lacks the necessary modem cable. > EXP wants $18 for the cable (I think this is a bit steep, but then they > also want $49 for the modem, which is a 2400 baud data modem with > 9600 bps Send/4800 bps Receive capability and built-in FAX software. > It must be great software :¬)) > Actually $18 is very reasonable for a pcmcia card cable. I was quoted $80 for a cable for a nic card I have so $18 would be a real steal. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:36:17 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) > I completely agree!! It is confusing (annoying) when trying to read > messages or comments that don't use real words. > > Just my two cents. > > John L. > I agree that everyone should try to use real words but conversly I don't stop to spell check every note I send, if I had to I wouldn't bother sending them. I quite often suffer from transpositions of letters since I type via a modified hunt and peck system (more fingers involved) and one hand insists on being faster than the other. :-) Also, I will never claim to be a great speller but in the grand scheme of things I think that is a small shortcoming, if I had to pick one thing to not do well I could certainly live with spelling as it. Pete PS. I don't know if it applies to this list but often people don't speak english as their first language so some unusual words are certainly to be overlooked in that case. Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:21:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Hello? What's CPT? corporal? How come I never got ll these welcome msgs? Hmmmmmmmm? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:04:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: ISP FAQ In-Reply-To: <199811041947.NAA12023@sh1.ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote: > support dialing in with no OS at all, just a terminal > and modem. I can't believe that your ISP doesn't support > this! Would you mind boring me with the details (off > list if you think appropriate?) I'm curious... I can't speak for the entire list, but I would like to see the details too. Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: FILMS100.GDB wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. This database was mentioned in the most recent Palmtop Paper. It includes the listing of the 100 best American films of all time, as determined by somebody (the American Film Institute, I think). Could someone who has this please forward a copy to me? Thanks! J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:34:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) Comments: To: "Peter W. Borders" In-Reply-To: <6803AC703C2@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote: > I agree that everyone should try to use real words but conversly I > don't stop to spell check every note I send, if I had to I wouldn't > bother sending them. That's "conversely", Pete. Get it right. :-) > PS. I don't know if it applies to this list but often people don't > speak english as their first language so some unusual words are > certainly to be overlooked in that case. My guestimate is that probably 40% of the people on this list don't speak English as their first language. Yet oddly, usually we in the States are the ones that always spell things wrong on this list. Strange... Ian Butler Advanced Software Systems, Inc. Tout choses sont dites deja, mais comme personne n'ecoute, il faut toujours recommencer. -- A. Gide -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:43:26 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Hello? (actually spelling) > > I agree that everyone should try to use real words but conversly I > > don't stop to spell check every note I send, if I had to I wouldn't > > bother sending them. > > That's "conversely", Pete. Get it right. :-) > I told you I can't spell. Luckily none of you are subjected to my handwriting, it makes my spelling seem quite good. :-) > > PS. I don't know if it applies to this list but often people don't > > speak english as their first language so some unusual words are > > certainly to be overlooked in that case. > > My guestimate is that probably 40% of the people on this list don't speak > English as their first language. Yet oddly, usually we in the States are > the ones that always spell things wrong on this list. Strange... > > Ian Butler > Advanced Software Systems, Inc. > Thats probably true, we "natives" get lazy and don't try to spell correctly. Personally I am not trying to impress anyone on an email list so I don't worry about the occasional spelling error, I worry more about correct content. If I was writing a report for work I would put it through every test I could find to make sure it looks good. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:34:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , WARREN MARSH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: WARREN MARSH Subject: Re: FILMS100.GDB wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'd like a copy too. Thanks Warren Marsh Warrenma@bestweb.net -----Original Message----- From: James P. Grenert Ýmailto:grenert.james@MAYO.EDU¨ Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 5:30 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: FILMS100.GDB wanted Hi. This database was mentioned in the most recent Palmtop Paper. It includes the listing of the 100 best American films of all time, as determined by somebody (the American Film Institute, I think). Could someone who has this please forward a copy to me? Thanks! J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:50:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: FILMS100.GDB wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain We'll make sure Mitch gets a copy at SUPER if it is not already there. <> From now on we'll make sure everything mentioned in PALMTOP PAPER is at Palmtop.net -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:56 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on motgate2.mot.com from client pobox2.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: cc: Steve Meisner In-Reply-To: Steve Meisner's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:50:16 -0500" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Steve Meisner writes: > Does anyone know if there are any sort of cc:Mail connectivity pieces that > allow a x00LX to connect but be a front end to something like a POP server? > > Something like: a 200LX connects to a server via the internal cc:Mail > component, and retrieves mail waiting on a POP server. If Lotus would release the file formats of the CC:mail files on the palmtop, then this would be dead easy to do with LXTCP. As it is, they haven't released the file formats, and I have been informed that Lotus will sue anyone who reverse engineers the file format. ÝThis should be in our mailing list FAQ¨ -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:00:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104093131.0079ce40@pop.hom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Owen Samuelson wrote: > Just found this file compression program. I've been using diet, but check > this out: > > original ppt.exe = 162,344 bytes > dieted ppt.exe = 72,692 bytes > apacked ppt.exe = 61,567 bytes > > This is just my first test but wanted to let people know it might be worth > investigating. Interesting. But how fast is it compared to Diet? I usually just use PKlite, although I don't think it is much better/worse than Diet. > apack is at ftp:\\ftp.cdrom.com\pub\sac\pack\apack094.zip You may want to reverse those slashes :-) BTW. I can see that you found it at a mirror of SAC, the Slovakian Anti-Virus Center (I think that's the name). SAC is a very good resource for programs and utilities (not only Anti-Virus tools) which never reached Simtel or Garbo. As an added benefit, those Russian and Eastern European programs are usually smaller and faster than their American/Western European counterparts (well that's my experience anyway). SAC is well worth checking out. Cheers, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:07:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain That seems kinda strange. How is it then, that programs like database and document viewers can exist? I remember in the 80's that Ashton-Tate tried to sue Fox software for creating a product that did the same thing as theirs and lost. Can the file format be copyrighted? Maybe it's because other software makers have published their file formats while Lotus has not? I would thik that lotus must have published something describing their file formats. I recall that one of the Super download files is a source code for writing to/from CC:Mail mailboxes.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Whitby Ýmailto:rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM¨ > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 6:01 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ cc:mail server availability > > > Steve Meisner writes: > > Does anyone know if there are any sort of cc:Mail > connectivity pieces that > > allow a x00LX to connect but be a front end to something > like a POP server? > > > > Something like: a 200LX connects to a server via the > internal cc:Mail > > component, and retrieves mail waiting on a POP server. > > If Lotus would release the file formats of the CC:mail files on the > palmtop, then this would be dead easy to do with LXTCP. > > As it is, they haven't released the file formats, and I have been > informed that Lotus will sue anyone who reverse engineers the file > format. > > ÝThis should be in our mailing list FAQ¨ > > -- > -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- > -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- > -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- > -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:27:09 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... Comments: To: Hyunsoo KIM In-Reply-To: <199811020222.XAA15446@interino.feedback.net.ar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT HI, GEOS is not abandoned. there is some new version I think. and some news group. alain > Hi! peoples... > > I have got a GEOS OS for PC 1991 version. > And I have it installed susccesfully on my HP200LX palmtop and it does > working very good. The only problem is the lack of a versatile keyboard > control. > > So my question is: > -Is this a good and stable OS for HPLX? > -Anyone know how load .txt file to GEOS Word app? > -Is GEOS considered an abandonware? > > TIA > > Pablo KIM > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:50:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... Comments: To: Alain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Alain To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 6:30 PM Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... HI, GEOS is not abandoned. there is some new version I think. and some news group. alain Yep. GEOS is the operating system in the Omnigo, and most recently the Nokia 9000, and 9000i smartphones with web access etc. You might have seen it in the recent movie the Saint, it wasnt a fake gadget it really exists but its only for GSM phone systems i believe. GEOS for the desktop has been taken over by NewDeal software and their product New Deal Office is a GEOS Geoworks like office suite which is much smaller than Micro$ofts version. GEOS is pushing the smartphone / data appliance end of the market after their PDA's the ZOOMER and the OMNIGO but its definitely still alive, and if they ever get a decent development environment it might actually go somewhere. Dan driden@stlnet.com > Hi! peoples... > > I have got a GEOS OS for PC 1991 version. > And I have it installed susccesfully on my HP200LX palmtop and it does > working very good. The only problem is the lack of a versatile keyboard > control. > > So my question is: > -Is this a good and stable OS for HPLX? > -Anyone know how load .txt file to GEOS Word app? > -Is GEOS considered an abandonware? > > TIA > > Pablo KIM > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:56:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Blah...Just Blah.." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Blah...Just Blah.." Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... Comments: To: Alain In-Reply-To: <1629567FF3@alice.baker.edu.au>; from Alain on Thu, Nov 05, 1998 at 11:27:09AM +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the new version of geos (now new deal office) is at: http://www.newdealinc.com there is a shareware version avaiable for trial on the site --francois On Thu, Nov 05, 1998 at 11:27:09AM +0000, Alain wrote: > HI, > GEOS is not abandoned. > there is some new version I think. > and some news group. > alain > > Hi! peoples... > > > > I have got a GEOS OS for PC 1991 version. > > And I have it installed susccesfully on my HP200LX palmtop and it does > > working very good. The only problem is the lack of a versatile keyboard > > control. > > > > So my question is: > > -Is this a good and stable OS for HPLX? > > -Anyone know how load .txt file to GEOS Word app? > > -Is GEOS considered an abandonware? > > > > TIA > > > > Pablo KIM > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > Al > Wyn@alphalink.com.au > Melbourne / Australia > http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:14:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: The palmtop and digital cameras MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well... After using the LX with a Kodak DC20 for about 8 months... I finally got dissatisfied with the whole setup. So... I began searching for another camera that would work well with the palmtop. My requirements were: * VGA resolution (640x480, with 24-bit color) * Camera size must be small, 200LX size or smaller * Long Battery Life * Camera should store the finished picture (no post-processing) in .jpg format * Camera should allow a decent amount of pictures (comparable to a regular point-n-shoot camera) * Easy transfer of pictures to the LX * Relatively inexpensive After looking for a while, I stumbled across a camera that met the requirements: the Toshiba PDR-2. It is small (smaller than the 200LX), is capable of holding a minimum of 24 pictures, has long battery life, and keeps the pictures in .jpg format in its internal flash disk. The best part, though, is the transfer interface the camera uses. Much like the Nikon Coolpix 100 (that's the one that *doesn't* work with the LX), the camera incorporates a PC Card interface. In this case, the back of the camera "flips" out (like a door opening) to become the PC Card. Once that's stuck into the LX, the palmtop can view the pictures on the camera via Filer and LXPIC. It works quite well, with one glitch: the current requirement of the camera is *almost* too much for the palmtop. The LX won't powerup on battery power (although it will on AC). But there is a workaround for battery power use: Flick the camera power switch at the same time as turning on the palmtop. The palmtop then powers up fine. My guess is that the added "juice" from the camera battery allows the palmtop to turn on. Once the palmtop is on, the camera appears to be drive A:. I use Filer to copy the contents of the camera to the palmtop's C: drive (I've got a 32MB unit), then turn off the palmtop and remove the camera to give the LX's batteries a break. Then, LXPIC can be used to view the pictures. Another benefit of the camera is that it's "film", the SmartMedia flash card, is removeable. The camera comes with (2) 2MB cards, so you can hold 48 pictures on fine quality or 96 on standard. The camera will accept larger capacity SmartMedia cards (as long as their 3.3V), so you can purchase more capacity if you wish. Be advised, SmartMedia and CompactFlash *are not the same*. SmartMedia is much thinner, about credit card thickness, and does not use an edge connector. So, now I've got a camera that has speedy download (as opposed to serial links), takes a fair amount of pictures (instead of 8) and gives VGA resolution. I haven't used the PDR-2 too much (I received it today) but I played with it extensively at lunch, and took some pictures. They're at http://www.garlic.com/~childers/pdr2 if anyone wants to see the quality. Bear in mind, I just dumped the pictures into that directory, I didn't build a page or anything. Also, there are samples of Fine and Standard mode pictures. Boy, I love the transfer interface! Non-kludgey, and no cables to lose/break! One other nice thing about the PDR-2 package: The fellows at Toshiba bundled in a FlashMate 2000 PCMCIA card reader (parallel port version). So... I got two LX peripherials for the price of one! (Although the FlashMate only works under Win95/98.) The PDR-2 can be found at PCConnection for $269.95 (with FlashMate). A bonus of ordering from PCConnection is that they offer AirBorne Express shipping for $5.95 (for those of us who are impatient!) (Dave?) I'll keep the list posted on how well the camera works over the test of time... but I'm satisifed for the time being. Bill ÝI'm not affiliated with Toshiba, PCConnection, AirBorne Express, or anyone else, for that matter. I'm just a fool who likes to spend money.¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:43:18 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Scarth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Scarth Subject: Re: FLUFF Math Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I still haven't seen the answer to this one in a lotus 123 spreadsheet, = though you can do it on Excel with the solver function or in Matlab on = the palmtop. For regular circles, just use the results from: http://www.stetson.edu/~efriedma/packing.html Another link is: http://www.frii.com/~dboll/packing.html where you can download windoze code to do the job Hope this help with the Crop Circles. I think it's important to note the = Sausage Conjecture that if you want to pack spheres optimally in greater = than four dimensions, you will end up with a sausage..... Have fun.. Peter Scarth -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- Department of Geographical Sciences and Planning The University of Queensland, St Lucia 4072. Phone: 61-7-33656838 Web: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s153231/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:49:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... In-Reply-To: <19981104195652.A19376@skyshot.ml.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not much help to us 80186 users ... from http://www.newdealinc.com/ >>Empower your PC with our award-winning, incredibly easy to use, graphical desktop software for computers with as little as a 286 processor, 640K RAM and 9MB of free hard disk space!<< -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:49:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Leland Hambley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leland Hambley Subject: Just when you thought it couldn't get any bigger. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just noticed a press release put out by SanDisk on November 2nd. You can find it at http://www.sandisk.com/pr/pr.htm SanDisk announced products they are suppose to release in Q1 of 1999. Using a new 128 Megabit chip they will release a 440 Meg Type II card. Hopefully this will put price pressure on the current cards. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:11:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... Yes but does it run the LX sys aps? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:06:30 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle Comments: To: Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-04 11:27:32 EST, you write: << Puzzle Dice (sum) Set A 1 5 6 10 14 15, 51 Set B 0 4 8 9 13 17, 51 Set C 2 3 7 11 12 16, 51 Set A Beats Set B 52.7% of the time. Set B Beats Set C 52.7% of the time. Set C Beats Set A 52.7% of the time. >> If you can put 51 pips on a dice, you can just as easily use a pictogram. I propose, Set A All side show a piece of paper. Set B All sides show a rock. Set C All sides show a pair of scissors. Now, Set A beats Set B 100% of the time. Set B beats set C 100% of the time. Set C beats set A 100% of the time. Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:13:44 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: The palmtop and digital cameras Comments: To: Bill Childers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT HI Try a Casio camera, I use a QV10. The QV100 will do a better job. Both can be connected to the LX for free, and connected to the TV great. It's also possible to send a pict from a computer to the camera (think slide show) regards Alain Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:24:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: cc: hobchi@JUNO.COM >How come I never got ll these welcome msgs? >Hmmmmmmmm? >Semper mobilis, >yor pal al :-) ............. Should've changed your name to Allie or Alexandra . - Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:08:30 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Nov 5, 98 00:00:52 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/sac/pack/apack094.zip (slashes reversed) > Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:18 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Network for HPLX, Arachne, Un*x Comments: To: Feher Tamas In-Reply-To: <1D40A04C5B@sc.bme.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT you can use Caldera DRDOS > Also, someone please dig up a copy of Netware 1.x or maybe 2.x. > I actually met a guy, who had seen a real XT server running NW1.1 It > was barely faster than... A 64MB, DS machine with network should be > superb for this use. Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:49:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Real: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle Ah so, The die is cast: what shall it be? A Cassius QV10. or....... A Toeshiba PDR-2? Let's hare the ayes or nays. For whom doth the kamera klick........... BTW: I wonder if that PDR is a Physician's Desk Refernce. Hmmmmmm. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:34:46 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Win 3.0 / Win 2.x In-Reply-To: <004401be067b$52d530c0$08c8260a@ferris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT What about using DOS!! I think DOS 5.0 will run on the LX ;-) Alain Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:15:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Chris Hoover Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Hoover Subject: Re: ÝFluff¨ Puzzle Comments: To: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Unless I misunderstand the limitations, you could have dice: A with sides 6, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 B with sides 5, 5, 5, 2, 2, 2 C with sides 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 1 A beats B, B beats C, C beats A. On average. cjh At 12:00 AM 11/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >There are 3 dice, A, B and C. > >They are normal in the sense that they are 6-sided, but that have an >unusual set of numbers numbers, such that (on average) > A beats B, > B beats C, and > C beats A. > >Stated another way, if I ask you to choose one of them, I can always chose >one of the remaining two such that I beat you (over enough throws - say 20). > >"Beating" means that the number thrown on one dice beats the number thrown >on the other (ie just what you's expect). > >PUZZLE: >I've been told that this is possible, but I can't work out what arrangement >of numbers are needed. In fact, I'm not even sure that it's possible. >Anyone know, or about to prove it one way or the other? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:43:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kymberly Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kymberly Carleton Subject: Wow! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all and thanks for the warm welcome. =) I feel at home already. ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) <=Kym=> \>o, CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Oh NO>>>>Don't tell me this is another sexist group!??? Here I thought we were all in this group as equals!! :-) Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:54:13 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ puzzle In-Reply-To: <199811041706.JAA24242@netcom2.netcom.com> from "Eric Wong" at Nov 4, 98 09:06:08 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric and Steve: Thanks very much for your solutions! > a: 3 3 3 3 3 3 > b: 5 5 2 2 2 2 > c: 4 4 4 4 1 1 I *knew* it was something to do with how-many-a-number beats vs how-many- such-numbers a dice has. I almost got this solution, but couldn't quite see it. Is this "near-genius" or "near-stupidity"? It's a fine line . Eric: I'm fascinated by your Perl script. If implementing such solutions is really easy, I would be much more likely to do so ... how convenient a tool is Perl, really? I haven't yet been convinced by Perl advocacy... Did you really just whip it up in response to the puzzle I posted? Were there *any* bugs at all (cos Perl supposed to be so easy)? Last time I wrote a similar test program in C, it took about an hour - much longer than I expected. Does Perl's avoidance of a compile-run loop and more lenient syntax actually make significant savings in time and effort? I infer you wrote for unix (#!/usr/bin/perl -w); I guess you also have perl installed on your lx? (but 25000 iterations would take a while!!). Is your script pure Perl 4? (as Perl 5 is too big for the palmtop) PUZZLE: And apart from grilling you on Perl, I feel I too should contribute something more substantial : (1) You could calculate the probabilities directly, without actually simulating trials: much faster. Not an issue on a PII, but it is for the palmtop. I guess this is how Steve's spreadsheet would work. I guess ties *are* an issue. You could reject solutions with possible ties. Alternatively, would just ignoring them work, and assigning the appropriate proportion to the definite winners and losers? (2) You could assign values to the 3 dice randomly. Eventually, it would produce a set of numbers the satisfy the condition of a>b>c>a. There are only 36*36*36 = 46656 combinations (if using numbers 1..6). And more than a few of them would satisfy the criteria, so it wouldn't take too long. As you can see, I'd much rather talk about a solution than implement it. I can only plead being in the middle of exams, and: That this AI approach just goes to prove the true motivation of people (such as myself) who attempt research into "Artificial Intelligence"... > ------- > #!/usr/bin/perl -w > > @d0=( 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3 ); # die A > @d1=( 5, 5, 2, 2, 2, 2 ); # B-th die > @d2=( 4, 4, 4, 4, 1, 1 ); # C > > $iterations = 25000; # number of trials > $ab = $bc = $ca = 0; # xy, number of times x beats y > > for ($i=0; $i<$iterations; $i++) { > ($a, $b, $c) = ($d0Ýint(rand(6))¨, $d1Ýint(rand(6))¨, $d2Ýint(rand(6))¨); > > if ($a>$b) { $ab++; } > if ($b>$c) { $bc++; } > if ($c>$a) { $ca++; } > } > > printf "Final winning percentages:\n". > " A beats B: %.2f\n". > " B beats C: %.2f\n". > " C beats A: %.2f\n", $ab/$i, $bc/$i, $ca/$i; Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:41:18 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on motgate2.mot.com from client pobox2.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: cc: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: Ed Padin's message of "Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:07:36 -0500" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Ed Padin writes: > I would think that lotus must have published something describing > their file formats. To my knowledge (and to the knowledge of the person who I cannot name who's business partner got sued by Lotus), they have not. > I recall that one of the Super download files is a source code for > writing to/from CC:Mail mailboxes.... It's source code, but it doesn't tell you how to read/write the files that are *on_the_palmtop*. It relies on you being able to connect to a CC:Mail server and running an import/export program there. This should also be in the HPLX-L FAQ :-) -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:41:21 -0500 Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe Comments: To: Owen Samuelson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 02h21m01s ago ... On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:31:31 -0500 (EST), wrote: > apack is at ftp:\\ftp.cdrom.com\pub\sac\pack\apack094.zip Hmmm, might be good for the desktop, but it seems to require a 386 or better. -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:32:07 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Brief ver 3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Folks, Any ideas where I could find a copy of Brief version 3 for DOS? Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> original ppt.exe = 162,344 bytes >> dieted ppt.exe = 72,692 bytes >> apacked ppt.exe = 61,567 bytes >> >> This is just my first test but wanted to let people know it might be worth >> investigating. > >Interesting. But how fast is it compared to Diet? I usually just use >PKlite, although I don't think it is much better/worse than Diet. > Found out that apack needs at least a 386 to work. But the packed files work fine on the HPLX. I think the time to decompress into ram is longer with apack by about 1~2 sec but the file size savings are good. Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:34:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to run a desk top publishing system under the GEOS OS on an XT in the old days... 10 MHz, 1MB RAM and 20 MB disk. That's nearly a 200LX with a flash card! :-) I still have the disks and can check which rev they are. There were 3x720KB disks for the OS and 3x720KB for the dtp program, which was Swedish (translated?). I don't know if it will work with modern day geos apps. I will try and check the rev tonight. I seem to remember that there was a file manager in there. Otherwise I have GEOS for the C64, if I can find it. With wordprocessor + paint app. Only problem is it's 6502 code and C64 specific! How about a C64 emulator on the LX? br Franklin -----Original Message----- From: Jim Krist To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:45 AM Subject: Re: GEOS operating system usage... >Not much help to us 80186 users ... > >from http://www.newdealinc.com/ > >>>Empower your PC with our award-winning, incredibly easy to use, graphical >desktop software for computers with as little as a 286 processor, 640K RAM >and 9MB of free hard disk space!<< -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:35:24 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Agentrapid@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roy Stroud Subject: Re: Newton Keyboard for sale (forward) Comments: To: owensam@HOM.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit *Subject: FS: Newton Keyboard for 100/200LX *From: gizmo9294@my-dejanews.com *Date: 11/5/98 12:18 AM Eastern Standard Time *Message-id: <71rcf2$2eq$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> *Newton Keyboard for HP 100/200LX *-modified by Sheir Systems & Software *(http://www.sheir.com) *-with original case and driver disk *-$75/OBO + shipping *-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- *http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own FYI Group not a bad buy I have one and it is great. Regards Roy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:38:38 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: Shopping List software Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sometimes yes, sometimes I just go back to a previous entry, and mark it as un-done. My shopping lists are never that big, that I bother creating a template. Mikhail Epelbaum wrote: > > Paulo - does this mean that you make your list anew each time? > > > I have an apointment file called "compras.adb" (it's shopping in > > Portuguese), and I just insert one to-do for each item. And in the > > supermarket I keep my LX open on the baby-chair of the shopping wagon, > > and press Space each time I get an item into the Wagon (mark to-do as > > done). > > > > And I can go shopping without forgetting half of the things! > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:40:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: Mouse... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've noticed several posts that talk about running gui's such as GEM = and > Win3.1. > Can you use a mouse with the LX?? If so, can you use it with the > standard apps? There is nothing magical about how a mouse hooks into a PC - it is just a device connected to a serial port and it has a software driver to make it work. So, yes, the 200Lx can connect to a mouse. The internal applications were not written to use a mouse in any way, so even though you connect a mouse and installed the driver, the built in apps would not care at all. But if there was some other program you wanted to run on the palmtop that did know how to use a mouse, then it would work fine. But you will have to make sure that the serial port's power is turned on and set to a wired connection before loading the mouse driver. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:14:40 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe There's always TINYPROG on SUPER. Does a super job too. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:18:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: The palmtop and digital cameras What about HP camera's ? Don't dey get no consideration? Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:12:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Brief ver 3.0 Why wood yu want it? It has a smaller foot print but yor saving would be lost by carrying V5 around unless yuu kan burn a new prom> Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:36:40 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: LXCIC and flash cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LXCIC is not at all intended to have any effect on your flash cards performance. I have no idea why it still does. Do you use the new version 1.3? It should have fixed a previous problem. I own no Simple Tech/Viking card and cannot say why it behaves so strange. Maybe it has a built in modem without outlet ;-) I emailed Simple Tech weeks ago and asked for a refernce card to look into their problem in conjunction with the HP200LX. But I got no answer. From all I hear of you, these cards cannot be recommended for the palmtop unless we know the reason for their stange behaviour and possibly find a work around. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:36:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: APACK vs COMPACK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I downloaded APACK and gave it a try. It does not run on the palmtop, because it uses 386 opcodes. But it runs well on the desktop and you can transfer the packed files to the palmtop. The compression is very good, better than anything else I saw, *BUT* to load a compressed file takes long, in the range of seconds. I prefer COMPACK, which does not compress as well, but still better than DIET or LZEXE, and which loads tremendously fast, almost at the same time as the uncompressed file. If filesize is your main concern, APACK is best. But if it comes to loading fast, COMPACK is best. It compresses COM and EXE files. However only COM files can be retrieved. It runs well on the palmtop and is shareware. I'll send a copy to Mitch. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:36:42 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: modem power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I was wondering if setting the S24 register was for > the standby mode or sleep mode Neither nor. It is related to 'power down' a modem, as my DOC says. But I guess to power down a XJ1144 is equivalent to putting it into sleep mode, which means, the XJ1144 sucks 15mA at 5V thus draining the 2.5V power supply at 30mA. That is what I approximately measured. As I said, the modem does that only if it is configured. An unconfigured XJ1144 seems to be in standby mode at 40mA(5V), draining the batteries at 80mA(2.5V). Thanks Jez Cunningham for correcting my values concerning the differnt voltage (Physics at school is long ago) At the moment, I have another test running, to check, if the XJ1144 uses any power if the unit is turned off. Until now it doesn't seem to, which means, you can leave the modem in the palmtop at power off. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:43:24 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: modem power drain Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >At the moment, I have another test running, to check, if the >XJ1144 uses any power if the unit is turned off. Until now it >doesn't seem to, which means, you can leave the modem in the >palmtop at power off. No PCMCIA card can draw power in the palmtop when it is off as the 5v supply is turned off to the PCMCIA slot. Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:45:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MIKE GUMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: MIKE GUMAN Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How does this compare to PKZIP rev g? >---------- >From: Laust Brock-NannestadÝSMTP:di980769@DIKU.DK¨ >Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 5:00 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: Re: exe and com file compressor: apack.exe > >On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Owen Samuelson wrote: > >> Just found this file compression program. I've been using diet, but check >> this out: >> >> original ppt.exe = 162,344 bytes >> dieted ppt.exe = 72,692 bytes >> apacked ppt.exe = 61,567 bytes >> >> This is just my first test but wanted to let people know it might be worth >> investigating. > >Interesting. But how fast is it compared to Diet? I usually just use >PKlite, although I don't think it is much better/worse than Diet. > > >> apack is at ftp:\\ftp.cdrom.com\pub\sac\pack\apack094.zip > >You may want to reverse those slashes :-) > >BTW. I can see that you found it at a mirror of SAC, the Slovakian >Anti-Virus Center (I think that's the name). SAC is a very good resource >for programs and utilities (not only Anti-Virus tools) which never reached >Simtel or Garbo. As an added benefit, those Russian and Eastern European >programs are usually smaller and faster than their American/Western >European counterparts (well that's my experience anyway). SAC is well >worth checking out. > > >Cheers, > >Laust > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:51:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pete Borders wrote: > If I steal your car but only use it for personal > transportation is that legal? NO. You can use arguements like that to > sooth your guilty conscience but it still is not legal in any form of Here we go again. Pete we went down this road, remember? a CAR is a TANGIBLE asset with LIMITED numbers. taking it directly reduces owner inventory. a COPY of abandoned software is NOT tangible. making it does not directly affect owner inventory. yes, it is "illegal" to make copies. just like it is illegal to make a personal copy of an out of print book borrowed from the public library. But by using this car analogy, you throw oranges in our apple pie. It's not comparable. Personally, if a company refuses to provide licenses to paying customers of old, obsolete software, I am perfectly at ease with my conscience getting "abandoned" copies to use, even if I don't specifically get their permission. I am assured they really don't care enough to bother with it. If they ask me not to do it, I will immediately stop. If anyone here (except pete) has a problem with what I have, let me know, I'll remove my software from public domain and quit using it personally. I take it that most of you don't want my page to disappear... ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Hello? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" al chin writ's: > How come I never got ll these welcome msgs? Because no one could understand your "hawwllo msg." (and possible because it was a girl this time, throwing herself into the wild, large-palm, male-dominated world of LX users.) For appropriate content: Just thought I would announce that someone sent me a Word for Windows converter going to/from 1.1 to 2.0. Find it at: ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:08:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Hello? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cathy Schlim wrote: > Oh NO>>>>Don't tell me this is another sexist group!??? Here I thought we > were all in this group as equals!! :-) Cathy, honey, why do you think I use an alias? ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: To: Rod Whitby In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Rod Whitby wrote: > This should also be in the HPLX-L FAQ :-) Okay, where should I put it? :-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:18:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Carson, Jon A." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Carson, Jon A." Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > ---------- > From: David SargeantÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List;David Sargeant > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 9:18 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Rod Whitby wrote: > > > This should also be in the HPLX-L FAQ :-) > > Okay, where should I put it? :-) > -------- snip --------- Woah !!!! I'll bet somebody is going to say something about that ! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:20:52 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , CSchlim@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cathy Schlim Subject: Re: Hello? Comments: To: hplx@COMPORTS.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/5/98 6:59:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, hplx@COMPORTS.COM writes: > and possible because it was a girl this time, throwing herself into the > wild, large-palm, male-dominated world of LX users.) tee hee Oh well, I have always worked better with males than females....maybe it is their DOS way of thinking!!! (Don't ask!) Cathy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:33:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: To: "Carson, Jon A." In-Reply-To: <213F934C0714D111969A0000929B739727AE6E@rc.addcoinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Carson, Jon A. wrote: > > > This should also be in the HPLX-L FAQ :-) > > Okay, where should I put it? :-) > Woah !!!! I'll bet somebody is going to say something about that ! Uh oh... perhaps I used a poor choice of words there. How about "Where in the FAQ should I place that particular tidbit of information?" No... still too inflammatory if you pronounce FAQ wrong. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: LOTUS AddIns / Borland Quattro MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings All: Does the WYSIWYG AddIn work well on the LX? If so, does anyone have a copy for sale or know of a possible source? Also, someone mentioned running Quattro v5 on the LX, don't suppose any of you know of a possible source for that product3 TIA & Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:31:26 -0800 Reply-To: Tony Olsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Olsen Subject: Re: Abandonware - Win3.0 Comments: To: Byron Cook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With this in mind, and the fact I have 2 unused liceses for Windows3.0, 2 unused licenses for Windows95 (OEM, NOT upgrade), could someone please send me a complete copy of Windows3.0? (I'm currently using an OEM version of Windows98). Thanks, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Byron Cook To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:57 AM Subject: Abandonware Microsoft now has a web site for obtaining permission to legally "downgrade" to a previous versions of their software at www.microsoft.com/permission/request/default.asp. They must be trying to provide an alternative to the "abandonware" arguement. There is no mention on the site how you could obtain an actual copy of the software unless a friend gave you a copy of the program. I have also noticed that Symantec offers previous versions of PCAnyWhere32 on the latest CD-ROM. So it is possible to legally obtain the older DOS version of the software just by buying the CD-ROM version of the latest software. I don't know why other companies don't do this as most programs do not fill the full 640 MB's of space that is available on a CD-ROM and it would be such a marketing advantage. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:55:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Hello? > How come I never got ll these welcome msgs? >Because no one could understand your "hawwllo msg." Ah, my msgs written so, are from my Captain Midnight ring They are code for a few good men, for he who reads my msgs this day shall foreverr be my brother and syster. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:06:05 -0500 Reply-To: igore@jps.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Igor Eydelnant Subject: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Hi folks, Quick note from the ESC show. On the background of noisy and flashy presentations from the big guys, something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. It has DRDOS with dialer, TCPIP stack, graphical web browser + email client. I just rebooted my PC off it and was on the net in 1 min or so. It requires 386 with 8MB RAM and I'm afraid it wouldn't like CGA. Curiously, those guys were completely unaware of 200lx's existence. Another example of HP's great engineering & poor marketing :( Regards, Igor // Brought via Igor's palmtop. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:12:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Smart Media PCMCIA adapter Comments: cc: childers@garlic.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I saw an add for a 3.5V/5V PCMCIA adapter for Smart Media cards. I guess it works similar to CF adapters. The price was about $80. This may be a simpler and less power hungry solution for viewing pictures stored on a Smart Media card. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:00:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Donald Collins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Collins Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: To: Steve Meisner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I posted the same type of question to the ccMail-L list and was referred = to two packages. I can't remember the products but I believe they were = more that what I was looking for. This is the listserv address if your = interested in posting the question there. The group is well informed = but if you mention the palmtop they will most likely refer you back to = the palmtop list. LISTSERV@LISTSERV.OKSTATE.EDU Don. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Meisner ÝSMTP:steve@MEISNER.MV.COM¨ Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 5:50 AM Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Does anyone know if there are any sort of cc:Mail connectivity pieces = that allow a x00LX to connect but be a front end to something like a POP = server? Something like: a 200LX connects to a server via the internal cc:Mail component, and retrieves mail waiting on a POP server. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bradley Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bradley Johnson Subject: TT/LX and Quickbooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Good morning everyone, I have been evaluating and comparing the TT/LX to some other programs. Thus far, TT/LX appears to be the winner (aside from the fact that the others are for the PalmPilot). Some of these already come with the ability to export to Quickbooks Time and Billing. It appears that the report scripting tool for TT/LX would allow for this. As to not reinvent the wheel, has anyone already created this? If not, I will attempt to write one and would be open to any suggestions. Thanks in advance. Bradley Johnson E-mail : bjohnson@platsoft.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:09:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: XJ1144 summary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think I have all information together to give a reasonable XJ1144 summary concerning power consumption which should also apply to most other modems: - make sure a CIC (Card Installation Client) like CIC100, CICFAKE, ALTCIC or LXCIC is running. If you use LXCIC, run it resident. This makes sure, that a plugin modem is always configured for IO and can enter its low power sleep mode. (2*15mA=30mA for the XJ1144) - set the modem 'power down' counter to 1 second using ats24=1 This has to be done only once. The register is kept in the XJ1144's nonvolatile memory. - don't care about a plugged in modem if your palmtop is switched off. (Thanks Mack!) If you follow these hints, a constantly plugged in (but unused) XJ1144 eats up about 30% of your batteries. To be honest, I expected a much worse value and will no longer anxiously slip the modem in and out. Altogether a pair of T2T 1350mAh batteries should give me on my doublespeed 32MB HP200LX about one hour online and five hours offline. This is enough for a 2-3 days trip. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:10:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: The palmtop and digital cameras Comments: cc: "childers@GARLIC.COM" , Ed Keefe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Bill, Great post, Bill, but bad news about the PDR-2. I just got email from the Toshiba product manager: <> Unfortunately, when I called CompUSA and checked their web site, they were selling them for $299 not $99. (Bill and Ed, it looks like we will need to put on hold again the PTP article. I am getting a 30-day eval of the PDR-5). -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:24:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: The palmtop and digital cameras Comments: To: Hal Goldstein In-Reply-To: <199811051915.LAA53022@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK. Drat! I wonder if the new camera would work... Hal, you said it has a serial interface as well... supposedly, any camera that uses SmartMedia as it's storage facility talks the same serial protocol. There is a page at http://members.tripod.com/~tawba/camwork.htm that describes the protocol, and has a freeware DOS program available. Another helpful link could be http://huizen.dds.nl/~kropveld/olympus.html (it has info on the Olympus line, but there is a whole bunch of software links at the bottom that might work). So, the PDR-5 gives you two possible interfaces: PCMCIA and serial. Hm. PC Connection has 'em for $395. I may have moved too swiftly... :( Oh well. The PDR-2 meets all my needs. I'm highly interested on what happens with the PDR-5, though... Bill On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Hal Goldstein wrote: > Bill, > > Great post, Bill, but bad news about the PDR-2. I just got email from > the Toshiba product manager: > > > < cameras > left. They were discontinued back in April and we have completely sold > out. I do believe that Comp USA has some left and are selling them for > $99 > but stock is limited to what is in the store. > > As you probably saw on our new site, we have upgraded the PDR-2 in the > PDR-5. Although slightly larger, this new camera features a built-in > flash, macro lens, and a 2.5" lcd. For downloading, we have continued > with > the PCMCIA interface and have added serial cables for Mac and PC systems > as > well as a video cable.>> > > Unfortunately, when I called CompUSA and checked their web site, they > were selling them for $299 not $99. > > (Bill and Ed, it looks like we will need to put on hold again the PTP > article. I am getting a 30-day eval of the PDR-5). > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:43:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981105095109.00bf1cd0@comports.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, hplx wrote: Another abandonware discussion... hopefully this won't evolve as much as previous threads have. Ýsnip¨ > But by using this car analogy, you throw oranges in our apple pie. It's > not comparable. Personally, if a company refuses to provide licenses to > paying customers of old, obsolete software, I am perfectly at ease with my > conscience getting "abandoned" copies to use, even if I don't specifically > get their permission. I am assured they really don't care enough to bother > with it. I tend to agree, providing you own a more recent version of the same piece of software. Otherwise you'd be getting it for free, which isn't fair as the company did put time and effort into creating it, even if it was years before. Of course, it is also important that people do not forget the difference between "abandonware" and supported software. Some do, once in a while... Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:59:29 -0500 Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Subject: Re: modem power drain Comments: To: Mack Baggette MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 02h48m24s ago ... On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:43:24 -0600 (CMT), wrote: > No PCMCIA card can draw power in the palmtop when it is off as the 5v supply is > turned off to the PCMCIA slot. While logically that makes sense, I feel that in my experience this is not the case. My CC3144 modem really drained the batteries fast even when the machine was off, I had a little table I made to confirm my suspicions but have since deleted it. IIRC, I charged the NiCD's fully, used the palmtop for about an hour on the batteries without the modem in to take off the top of the batteries, then turned it off overnight or what not, and did this four times, two with modem two without. The voltage dropped a lot more with the modem in place, but I won't guess any numbers as it's been a few months. I'll do the same thing with my EXP 288C and see how the results go. On a different, but similar subject, I was attempting to measure the current drawn from the batteries a while back and I got really low numbers, the palmtop was running, AC unplugged, went online, etc.. I think it was due to me using a digital meter with no averaging or what not, the measurements obviously fluxuated quite a bit. -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:13:53 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: fj_kaufman@csi.com, igore@jps.net, Igor Eydelnant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. > It has DRDOS with dialer, TCPIP stack, graphical web browser + email > client. I just rebooted my PC off it and was on the net in 1 min or so. > It requires 386 with 8MB RAM and I'm afraid it wouldn't like CGA. Any chance you can share that disk (disk image) with us? did they provide a reference. There web site has a whole huge system and not just a simple system like you have mentioned. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:25:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: XJ1144 summary In-Reply-To: <19981105190925.15850.qmail@mannheim1.pop.metronet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote: > > If you follow these hints, a constantly plugged in (but unused) > XJ1144 eats up about 30% of your batteries. To be honest, I > expected a much worse value and will no longer anxiously slip > the modem in and out. I have considered doing this, but am concerned about the X-Jack connector popping out and getting snapped off while in a pocket. Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:25:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MIKE GUMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: MIKE GUMAN Subject: Running CPACK exe from a DOS window MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know how to run the APPMGR within a (small) window? ALT-ENTER does not seem to work. > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: modem power drain Comments: To: wally@pop.uky.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Based on the earlier threads, when they talk about turning off the 5v supply to the PCMCIA slot, I think they're referring to a modem "AT" type command to shut it down (ie go into sleep mode), and not by turning off the LX. - Longden Walter Francis on 11/05/98 11:59:29 AM Please respond to wally@pop.uky.edu To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu cc: (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle) Subject: Re: modem power drain 02h48m24s ago ... On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:43:24 -0600 (CMT), wrote: > No PCMCIA card can draw power in the palmtop when it is off as the 5v supply is > turned off to the PCMCIA slot. While logically that makes sense, I feel that in my experience this is not the case. My CC3144 modem really drained the batteries fast even when the machine was off, I had a little table I made to confirm my suspicions but have since deleted it. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:25:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: F. Kaufman To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:17 PM Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive >> something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. >> It has DRDOS with dialer, TCPIP stack, graphical web browser + email >> client. I just rebooted my PC off it and was on the net in 1 min or so. >> It requires 386 with 8MB RAM and I'm afraid it wouldn't like CGA. > > >Any chance you can share that disk (disk image) with us? did they >provide a reference. There web site has a whole huge system and not >just a simple system like you have mentioned. The disk / disk image is available for download from the caldera site which IIRC is www.caldera.com. It includes the OS, TCPIP, Webbrowser and email client with a very crisp graphical look. I experimented with it on my IBM 110 palmtop but it required a bit too much space on my internal flash drive. Maybe if i find a compact flash sometime i'll try it again. Dan driden@stlnet.com > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:39:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: modem power drain Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: <882566B3.00706111.00@n-smtpmta.candle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Longden Loo wrote: > Based on the earlier threads, when they talk about turning off the 5v > supply to the PCMCIA slot, I think they're referring to a modem "AT" > type command to shut it down (ie go into sleep mode), and not by > turning off the LX. Well: Mack, when he said that no card can draw power from the LX when it is off, meant that if you have a card in the palmtop when the palmtop is turned off, the card will draw no power from the LX's batteries, because the 5V supply to the PCMCIA socket is turned off when the palmtop is off. I guess if you had something hideously wrong with your 200LX, a short or something, it could still draw power though. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:58 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Carson, Jon A." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Carson, Jon A." Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Me too ! Thanks ----------------------------------------------- jacarson@addcoinc.com ___..---'~~~`---..___ .-=========================- _______________/ :.::..-~--..___..---~~~' (___________(_||_)____/ /____/___:..::.:::. / NCC-1701 D \_________/ "Engage" ----------------------------------------------- > ---------- > From: F. KaufmanÝSMTP:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List;fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:13 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive > > > something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. > > It has DRDOS with dialer, TCPIP stack, graphical web browser + email > > client. I just rebooted my PC off it and was on the net in 1 min or so. > > It requires 386 with 8MB RAM and I'm afraid it wouldn't like CGA. > > > Any chance you can share that disk (disk image) with us? did they > provide a reference. There web site has a whole huge system and not > just a simple system like you have mentioned. > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:53:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Goran Johansson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Goran Johansson Subject: Ethernet again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Thanks to invaluable help from a handful of people on this list, I have now had my 200LX up and running on a Win95/NetBeui LAN for a few weeks. I am using the Accton EN2216-2 card over a twisted pair connection. I now run backup (5-6 Megs) in less than 1 min, to compare with 30 mins or more with Transfile over the serialport. There are a few things to investigate still, and I need to streamline the startup procedure. When I load the network sw via config.sys, Post/LX doesn't get enough memory to start. I am therefore using two separate config.sys files to boot the LX depending on what I want to do. I wonder: 1. Can the network sw be loaded "high"? I have a 8M 2x (T2T) HP with = Tremm. 2. Can I use Maxdos to swap out Net when I start Post? I am using Maxdos = for Post/LX already. If this is not possible: 3. How can I streamline the booting? Is there a way of running config.sys with a prompt for choosing Network or not? 4. Also, I have to terminate Sys Mgr when I go to DOS to run "Net Start". Otherwise the HP locks up. Any ideas why, and what to do about it? 5. Is there a way to use macro's to automate the above sequence? Last question (I promise!): 6. I "see" the other LAN PC:s in the HP's Filer, but the HP doesn't show up in the other PC:s' Explorer. Is this a question of "sharing" the HP? If so, how do I set it up as "shared"? If this is not of general interest, pls tell me! I am hoping that someone has been through this already. Maybe David or Mitch or Jim or Rod or... Since I have the work of setting this up fresh in my memory, I might be of assistance to someone! I am just doing the Win95/NetBeui thing. Have no experience in TCP/IP with the HP (yet). I could email the necessary files to people who ask me! The procedure is described in the Japan issue of PTP, and it almost(!) worked as described. Thanks Goran.. goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:55:57 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MIKE GUMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: MIKE GUMAN Subject: Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A DOS program has blanked the screen and locked on my palmtop tight! CTRL-ALT-DEL will not recover it. Anybody remember the reset sequence?? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:03:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: XJ1144 summary Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE On 11-05 02:09pm, the following was written: > - set the modem 'power down' counter to 1 second using ats24=1 > This has to be done only once. The register is kept in the > XJ1144's nonvolatile memory. So.... just enter a terminal program and enter ATS24=1 to basically power down the XJ? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:08:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Help Comments: To: mike.guman@ADTRAN.COM On 11-05 02:55pm, the following was written: > A DOS program has blanked the screen and locked on my palmtop tight! > > CTRL-ALT-DEL will not recover it. > > Anybody remember the reset sequence?? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:12:25 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Help A DOS program has blanked the screen and locked on my palmtop tight! CTR - L/Sft - ON. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:33:53 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Abandonware - Win3.0 > With this in mind, and the fact I have 2 unused liceses for Windows3.0, 2 > unused licenses for Windows95 (OEM, NOT upgrade), could someone please send > me a complete copy of Windows3.0? (I'm currently using an OEM version of > Windows98). > > Thanks, > > Tony > How did you end up with 2 licenses for 3.0 if you don't have it? Also, how did you end up with 2 OEM copiesof 95, I thought they only came with a computer? Of course if you are smart you changed to a "real" OS and that would leave the 95 licenses free. :-) Just curious. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:35:18 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive > Hi folks, > Quick note from the ESC show. > On the background of noisy and flashy presentations from the big guys, > something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. > It has DRDOS with dialer, TCPIP stack, graphical web browser + email > client. I just rebooted my PC off it and was on the net in 1 min or so. > It requires 386 with 8MB RAM and I'm afraid it wouldn't like CGA. > > Curiously, those guys were completely unaware of 200lx's existence. > Another example of HP's great engineering & poor marketing :( > > Regards, > Igor > Are you sure that is Caldera's DRDOS? That sounds alot like the QNX demo that can be downloaded from the net, same components and features. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:42:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Peter W. Borders To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:35 PM Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive >Are you sure that is Caldera's DRDOS? That sounds alot like the QNX >demo that can be downloaded from the net, same components and >features. Its definitely the Caldera product. I downloaded it from their website last week and experimented with it for use on my IBM 110 palmtop. It boots DOS7 sets up a ramdrive and installs all the web client stuff on the ramdrive and sets up the TCPIP stack, etc. ready for use. Pretty slick, and the apps look polished, the web browser in particular looked very clean. Dan driden@stlnet.com >Pete > >Peter W. Borders > >Network Support Technician >Tidewater Community College >tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:47:37 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability Comments: cc: Donald Collins In-Reply-To: Donald Collins's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:00:20 -0800" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Donald Collins writes: > I posted the same type of question to the ccMail-L list and was > referred to two packages. I can't remember the products but I > believe they were more that what I was looking for. The products that are usually touted are things that run in conjunction with an existing CC:mail server. What most palmtoppers are looking for is something that works with just what's on the palmtop, and an existing POP3 server - i.e. no CC:mail server in the loop. Did the packages you are talking about meet this description ? If so, could you please track them down for us ? (I don't know enough about CC:mail to ask sensible questions in a CC:mail listserv). -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:56:29 +1030 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client pobox.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Ethernet again... Comments: cc: Goran Johansson In-Reply-To: Goran Johansson's message of "Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:53:30 +0100" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Goran Johansson writes: > Since I have the work of setting this up fresh in my memory, I might be > of assistance to someone! I am just doing the Win95/NetBeui thing. Have > no experience in TCP/IP with the HP (yet). I could email the necessary > files to people who ask me! The procedure is described in the Japan > issue of PTP, and it almost(!) worked as described. Can you send the information to David S. so he can put a step-by-step in the Networking FAQ ? Also can you send a step-by-step to the list ? I'm interested, cause I use ethernet for TCP/IP exclusively, but want to have the files on hand in case I am ever forced to connect to Windows directly. -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:30:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What's the difference between "SanDisk" and "SunDisk"? Are they the = same > company? Yes. The original name for the company was Sundisk, but people were confusing it with Sun Disk and thinking it has something to do with Sun Computers. So, they changed their name to Sandisk. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:30:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: XBRam information wanted. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I'd like to know the specifications from HP about XBRam, the starting = address, > bytes in ID, data bytes, field lengths, etc.. Buddy's docs mention = that it > uses an ID of JM, a search of JM in ram yielded a few results, but = nothing > conclusive about the location of XBRam. XBRAM is a special location way up in the RAM address space that is write protected. There is a special proceedure a program must go through to write to this area. I think there is even a special proceedure to read the data from there. The only place I know it is documented is in the HP 100/200LX Developer Docs available from www.thaddeus.com. Stan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:37:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Ethernet again... Comments: To: Rod Whitby In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Rod Whitby wrote: > Can you send the information to David S. so he can put a step-by-step > in the Networking FAQ ? > Also can you send a step-by-step to the list ? I'm interested, cause > I use ethernet for TCP/IP exclusively, but want to have the files on > hand in case I am ever forced to connect to Windows directly. Actually, Hal Goldstein gave me permission to post the article from the Jan/Feb 1997 issue of the Palmtop Paper to my website. This is the article discussing how to use the Accton card with all sorts of networks. As soon as I get a chance, I'll post that to the site, and refer to the address in the networking FAQ. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:47:27 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Anyone using a COMPACT Sandisk flash card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> I wonder if they were being clever with Sans + Disk meaning without disk. Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:55:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Abandonware - Win3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain You can purchase OEM versions of Win95 from Tiger Direct at www.tigerdirect.com. The cost is about $115.00 David -----Original Message----- From: Peter W. Borders Ýmailto:TCBORDP@VBBUSNW1.TC.CC.VA.US¨ Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:34 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Abandonware - Win3.0 > With this in mind, and the fact I have 2 unused liceses for Windows3.0, 2 > unused licenses for Windows95 (OEM, NOT upgrade), could someone please send > me a complete copy of Windows3.0? (I'm currently using an OEM version of > Windows98). > > Thanks, > > Tony > How did you end up with 2 licenses for 3.0 if you don't have it? Also, how did you end up with 2 OEM copiesof 95, I thought they only came with a computer? Of course if you are smart you changed to a "real" OS and that would leave the 95 licenses free. :-) Just curious. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:36:38 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: modem power drain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >The voltage dropped a lot more with the modem in place, but I won't guess any >numbers as it's been a few months. I'll do the same thing with my EXP 288C >and see how the results go. I have done measurements of the palmtop power with and without PCMCIA cards installed many times, including many modems. I power the palmtops for upgrading with a power supply that has analog voltage and current meters. You are probably seeing a difference with the card in due to the extra load of the card. This is also the reason why you should only insert PCMCIA cards in the palmtop while it is off as the IO and address lines come directly from the processor and are not buffered going to the PCMCIA slot and when the power is off, so is the card and therefore it is safe to put it in the slot. Here is an exact quote from the Developer's Guide: "To date, there is no PCMCIA standard way defined for a card to wake up a unit. However, the HP palmtop does have a plug-in card wake up scheme on GPIO pin 6. GPIO pin 6 goes to the battery voltage detect 1 (BVD1) pin on the card, but is INVERTED in the process. The card must have a power supply independent from the palmtop because the card will not receive any power from the palmtop when the palmtop is off." Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:30:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: fj_kaufman@csi.com, Dan Ridenhour , Dan Ridenhour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >> something that impressed me is a bootable 1.44MB floppy from Caldera. > The disk / disk image is available for download from the caldera site which > IIRC > is www.caldera.com. It includes the OS, TCPIP, Webbrowser and email client > with a very crisp graphical look. I experimented with it on my IBM 110 That's why I asked about that specific disk - it sounds like everything fit on a 1.44 floppy rather than the big 5 disk image they have on their web site. I'm not sure how it would be pared down to 1.44mb floppy?? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:37:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net, fj_kaufman@csi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net To: fj_kaufman@csi.com ; HPLX Mailing List ; Dan Ridenhour ; Dan Ridenhour ; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 5:30 PM Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive >That's why I asked about that specific disk - it sounds like everything >fit on a 1.44 floppy rather than the big 5 disk image they have on their >web site. I'm not sure how it would be pared down to 1.44mb floppy?? They have the 1.44mb Disk image on their website! its in an area called NetSpyder or something similar. the 1.44mb disk image is downloaded with a diskcopy file that lets you copy the image to a blank floppy disk for booting. They also have their full DOS there for download i think, but thats bigger, this is just a bootable DOS with thier web client stuff functioning as i mentioned in earlier mail. Dan driden@stlnet.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:53:07 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981105095109.00bf1cd0@comports.com> from "hplx" at Nov 5, 98 09:51:09 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Your provocative CAPITALISATION compels me to reply: > a CAR is a TANGIBLE asset with LIMITED numbers. taking it directly reduces > owner inventory. a COPY of abandoned software is NOT tangible. making it > does not directly affect owner inventory. Whether an asset is tangible or not is not a relevant distinction in itself: for example, a bank account is intangible Ý*¨. I doubt you would you claim that it is OK for a rogue to use your bank account, just because it is intangible. The distinction you seek is whether the enjoyment of the property is reduced because another enjoys it. EG if you drive my car, then I cannot; the extent that you occupy my land reduces my occupany. It is a zero-sum game, and the more you have, the less I have. What of trademarks, another intangible? Certainly, you can use my trademark, and it does not "directly" reduce my inventory. But if I spent years providing excellent service and advice in building up reputation in that name, your use of it is certainly a kind of theft, which should be illegal. Which is illegal. There is no direct effect on my inventory; but there are indirect effects. But you are talking about software. I have addressed two of your arguments: intangibility and lack of direct effect. I think the real argument you attempt to put is simply whether use of software by someone reduces its value to the owner. Your argument would have been much more persuasive had you addressed the true issue, instead of the mumbo jumbo of whether it is "tangible" or whether there is a "direct effect on owner inventory". It just goes to show that SHOUTING is a poor substitute for actual thought. I remain cordially yours, Brendan Macmillan -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html > yes, it is "illegal" to make > copies. just like it is illegal to make a personal copy of an out of print > book borrowed from the public library. Ý*¨ A more accurate term is "chose in action". A "chose" just means a thing; "in action" means in litigation. The term refers to property whose enjoyment comes purely from the legal rights associated with it - such as a copyright, a trade mark, a debt, a bank account, a partnership, a share in a company. A "chose in action" is in contrast with a "chose in possession", which can be enjoyed in itself. Examples: a car, land, a computer, an actual book. Although you might commence litigation to remove someone from your land, or regain possession of your car, once you have possession of it, you can enjoy it directly. You can enjoy a book by reading it - that is a value it has. But you can't read a copyright, or enjoy it directly. Its value is entirely in the right it gives you to sue other people who infringe it, by copying the book without your permission. That is, copyright is not the contents of the book, but a right to sue in relation to that content. Thus, the "illegality" of infringing someone's copyright of which you speak is your cause of action in a court. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:00:26 GMT Reply-To: neil@skipper.nu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Subject: Re: cc:mail server availability In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:41:18 +1030, Rod Whitby wrote: >It's source code, but it doesn't tell you how to read/write the files >that are *on_the_palmtop*. It relies on you being able to connect to >a CC:Mail server and running an import/export program there. Let's get this in perspective. If you write a CC:Mail message and look at what the program saves, it's amazingly simple. I doubt anyone could claim reverse engineering on it if we decided to use the program to generate outgoing emails. How the incoming messages look is another matter, but I doubt they look much different to the outgoing ones. --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:15:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: Help Comments: To: MIKE GUMAN In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When all else fails, I remove the main battery (but not the backup). Anything wrong with this process? I never remember what the key-combo is to do a hard reset. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:21:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Neal Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Neal Organization: Hewlett-Packard Subject: Megahertz XJ1144 Init MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have inherited an xj1144 without documentation and was wondering what the rest of you are using for an initialization string. Thanks Ken (Not an official HP question) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:29:10 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... > But you are talking about software. I have addressed two of your > arguments: intangibility and lack of direct effect. I think the real > argument you attempt to put is simply whether use of software by > someone reduces its value to the owner. > > Your argument would have been much more persuasive had you addressed > the true issue, instead of the mumbo jumbo of whether it is "tangible" > or whether there is a "direct effect on owner inventory". > > It just goes to show that SHOUTING is a poor substitute for actual thought. > > > I remain cordially yours, > Brendan Macmillan > Well put, but in the case of an intellectual property the issue is not so much that your use reduces its value to the owner as it is that the owner deserves just compensation for your use of the property. If you rent your car to someone you have lost the use of it but you are being compensated for the usage. In effect the copyright law recognized the unusual features of an intellectual property (one of which is ease of distribution) and basically is set up to control the "rent" (for want of a better term) of said property. If you think about it "rent" is actually a pretty good term, you can buy a book, or software, or music, and use it all you want but you never really own it since the ideas involved belong to the copyright holder, so you paid a one time rental fee for the ideas. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:32:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Chow Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Chow Subject: Re: Netscape bookmarks -> GDB Comments: To: Gerhard Gonter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you want us LX listers to access your site, it seems we need a password... At 08:43 PM 7/10/98 +0200, you wrote: >According to David Kramer: >> John Peckham wrote: >> > Is there a utility to convert URL addresses from the Netscape bookmark file >> > (bookmark.htm) to a HP200LX database (or at least some sort of text file)? If >> Ý...¨ >> If you open up your Netscape address book and choose File-> Save As, it >> will save it in "ldif" format. > >The original question mentioned Netscape bookmark files and not the >addressbook, which can be exported to LDIF. > >> If you need more help I can write a perl or awk program to get the >> fields you want into something GDBIO can take. > >But Perl is handy for both applications, you can even avoid GDBIO ;) > >This is the heart of a perl script which actually does what John >asked for, albeit it could require some more work: > > # --- begin DB handling in perl --- > use HP200LX::DB ('openDB', 'saveDB'); > $db= openDB ('template/bookmark.gdb'); > tie (@db, HP200LX::DB, $db); > > @data= &read_bookmarks (shift (@ARGV)); > foreach $d (@data) { $dbÝ$i++¨= $d; } > $db->saveDB ('bookmark.gdb'); > # --- end DB handling in perl --- > >I'll upload the complete script to > > http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/bscw/bscw.cgi/0/41420 > >under "Example Scripts". > >Perl programmers will notice this uses a package called HP200LX::DB >which handles this kind of GDB, PDB and NDB operations. The most >recent package (version 0.04) can be found on the web server mentioned >above as hp200lx-db-0.04.tar.gz. > >If you intend to use this on other platforms except Unix, make sure to >pick up "DB.pm - version 0.05" too, this fixes the old DOS-problem with >binary files. > >NOTE: a known problem with the current package is that you can not >create a database from scratch, you have to modifiy a template (such as >the one at the web site). Also, the database's view point needs to be >refreshed when it is first opened on the HP 200LX (press F7 and F10, >this does the trick). > >The HP200LX::DB package is still listed as "under construction", >version 0.03 can also be found on CPAN and should work too, if used >under Unix. > >> This ÝLDIF file¨ is a text file you should be able to fold, spindle, >> and mutilate to your heart's content. > >As a matter of fact, I'm also working on a perl package to deal with >LDIF (and vCard, vCalendar). It has not been released yet, not even on >my private web server, but feel free to drop me a line if anybody is >interested in that or even want's to help! > >> Good luck. >Good luck too! > >+gg > >-- >Gerhard.Gonter@wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g.gonter@ieee.org >Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:32:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX and Quickbooks Comments: To: Bradley Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > TT/LX would allow for this. As to not reinvent the wheel, has anyone > already created this? If not, I will attempt to write one and would be open > to any suggestions. If a good one emerges, I'll add it to the Webpage and also may put it into the archive itself. Thank you in advance. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:35:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Megahertz XJ1144 Init Comments: To: ken_neal@HP.COM On 11-05 06:21pm, the following was written: > I have inherited an xj1144 without documentation and was wondering what > the rest of you are using for an initialization string. > Thanks > Ken I just use ATZ and everything works fine. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:42:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Software for DOS, cheap (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know nothing about this person just saw the ad. Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu PGP Key fingerprint = F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16 DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 01:10:53 GMT From: kysr@my-dejanews.com Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.software Subject: Software for DOS, cheap Make an offer: Microsoft Works Version 2.0 for DOS Microsoft Word Version 5.0 for DOS Lotus 1-2-3 Release 2.2 for DOS No reasonable offers refused. Please email offers to me. -- C. Keyser kysr@my-dejanews.com -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:09:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Abandonware... Hare, hare. Wow, one shore kan learns a lotta stuff around hare udder dan LX. Just when one fella seems to have nailed it down, someone else komes along and upset da kart. Sorta like the gunfighters of yore. My head hurts.... Youse guys shoulda majored in philosophy (in grad school). Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:55:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Hello? RE: >al chin writ's: > How come I never got ll these welcome msgs? HELLO AL!! Actually, since I've joined, I don't think I've seen anyone do a 'net call' howdy 'cept me Ýand I would've missed those before me I s'pose¨. I do remember being pretty warmly welcomed.... And supported! But, I s'pose, this male dominated list Ýalmost wrote mail dominated list¨ *might* have responded better to a female name. I've even read that certain recorded alarm messages are recorded in a female voice, because men are morel likely to respond.... --tim PS. Speaking of responding, I've got a question, but I'll give it another topic, so I can find the answers ;-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:01:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: DOS file 'times' question Hi All, Quick question BECAUSE I want to be able to do something I see in Windows, w/ my 200LX. In file manager, and I suppose other places, I can look at a file's properties and see creation date, date last modified and date last accessed Ýtime, etc. too¨. I noticed that the 'date last accessed' changes even if I only "quick view" a file, without opening it in the original app. Where do these three times hide in DOS? I don't see them w/ my standard DIR command.... Is there a DOS 5.0 'thing' I can do in my 200LX to make the files confess this extra info? << doesn't have to be all the time, if it can't always be displayed, just an unknown switch for DIR would be neat>> ALSO (and this might get the philosophers going) will TESTING for these times Ýi.e. 'measuring' this state¨ CHANGE any of them? TIA --tim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:29:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Lewis Subject: Video Question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII This is slightly off-topic, but here goes. I recently purchase an older copy of Ventura Publisher (vesion 1.0) at a used software store. I really like the way Ventura works, especially regarding style sheets and paragraph tagging. I can run it on my 200LX with no problems and found that I can reverse the video by pressing "on" plus "/". My question has to do with running it on my Toshiba T1200 laptop. Does anyone know of a utility that will reverse the video on the T1200? Russell Lewis (in Longview TX) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:09:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Help Comments: To: Jim Krist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > When all else fails, I remove the main battery (but not the backup). > Anything wrong with this process? I never remember what the key-combo is to > do a hard reset. Yes, you are placing a great strain on the backup battery and it does not provide much insurance if worn down. And don't rely on the HP's readings for it since it is lithium and holds what looks like a full charge until it is ready to keel over and die!!!! You are also jeopardizing your c: drive data Ctrl-LEFTshift-on. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:59:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , gjcoleman@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Coleman Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Quick question BECAUSE I want to be able to do something I see in Windows, >w/ my 200LX. Sorry, you won't be able to. > >... I noticed that the 'date last accessed' changes even if I only "quick view" >a file, without opening it in the original app. "Last Accessed" means the last time it was opened - Quick View is a program that has to open the file in order to show it to you. > >Where do these three times hide in DOS? I don't see them w/ my standard DIR >command.... Is there a DOS 5.0 'thing' I can do in my 200LX to make the >files confess this extra info? DOS is actually looking at a different directory record than Windows 95/98/NT looks at. That's how you get DOS-compatible (xxxxxxxx.xxx) file names even if you create the file in Windows with a long file name - the short name is stored in the DOS-compatible directory record. The last-access times and create times are not stored there because DOS wouldn't know what to do with them anyway. There is a Windows API to access the larger directory record; this API is unavailable to DOS. All this applies to your Windows 95/98/NT machine. The 200LX wouldn't have this info period, unless you ran Windows 95/98/NT on it, which of course you couldn't - incompatible processor. > ><< doesn't have to be all the time, if it can't always be displayed, just an >unknown switch for DIR would be neat>> Having said all that, I suppose some hacker maybe could write an assembler program to access this info (on your desktop Pentium-compatible machine, booted in DOS mode), but this program would have to read the disk in "raw" mode. But then why not just reboot Windows 95? > >--tim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:35:50 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Megahertz XJ1144 Init Comments: To: Ken Neal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have inherited an xj1144 without documentation and was wondering what > the rest of you are using for an initialization string. > Thanks > Ken > (Not an official HP question) > I use, according to the Init list for somethingorother: AT&F&C1&D2&K3 Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:20:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: GEOS? GEM! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit :-) Sorry about that. What I used was GEM/3 v.3.01u and the Swedish dtp program. I might just try installing it on my Aero now that I have found the diskettes. My CF card is late arriving... Have a nice day! Franklin (Compaq Aero 4/33C, upgraded to 20 MB RAM, 1,4 GB HDD & WIN95) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:23:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: WTB:ACCTON EN2216-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I realy would like to buy a Accton EN2216-1 for my hp200lx. I have Found one for $80. Is there anyone who can direct me to someone who sells them cheaper. Used ones are ok. /tomas moberg Uppsala -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:23:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Tables in HV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have some html pages that I whant to read on my hp200lx. But when I start up hv it turns out that HV makes the tables bigger than it have to. This makes the "Lotus-123 like" data wrap and thus being unreadable. I would like to set the tables in HV to a width of 6 characters wich would give me the 6 columns per row that I whant. Is this achivable? Changing the font did not help. /tomas moberg Uppsala -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:03:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gerhard Gonter Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Netscape bookmarks -> GDB Comments: To: Don Chow In-Reply-To: <3.0.16.19981105163403.2d5f95ee@srpl.com> from Don Chow at "Nov 6, 98 01:33:24 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to Don Chow: > If you want us LX listers to access your site, it seems we need a password... I'm sorry for the mistake, one hour after the posting you are quoting, I realised that I accidentially posted the private (read-write) URL and posted the public URL as a follow-up to my own message. > >I'll upload the complete script to > > http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/bscw/bscw.cgi/0/41420 > >under "Example Scripts". The public (read-only) URL is http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/pub/english.cgi/0/41420 The remainder of the script is only a short script that extracts the relvant information from the bookmarks and is only intended as a demonstration for the GDB handling. I hope you will find the information useful anyway and feel free to drop me a line if I can clarify anything. +gg -- Gerhard.Gonter@wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g.gonter@ieee.org Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:17:45 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Lotus 123 reference guide online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been using Excel for a long time, and so I never did give the right attention to Lotus 123 that comes in our LX. One problem I have is a lack of a good reference guide for all the Lotus functions. Don't tell me that the F1 key in the LX does it. For example, for the @cellpointer() function, the text is: @CELLPOINTER(attribute) returns a value or label on an attribute for the current cell. (Enclose attribute in quotes.) Not very helpful, if you do not know which strings you can use as attribute... I also lack a good key-word search through the whole help file. Does anyone know about a good reference guide of Lotsu functions? I would prefer an HTML based one. Thanks, Paulo -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:06:47 +0100 Reply-To: Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Organization: Alcatel Subject: Re: Running CPACK exe from a DOS window Comments: To: MIKE GUMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It works for me. (Windows 95) MIKE GUMAN wrote: > > Does anyone know how to run the APPMGR within a (small) window? > > ALT-ENTER does not seem to work. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:31:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: XJ1144 summary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > So.... just enter a terminal program and enter ATS24=1 > to basically power down the XJ? Exactly right. There is another register you may want to modify: The S11 register configures the speed of touchtone dialing. I used ATS11=50 and the XJ now dials out much faster. NOTE: first use ATS11? to read the current value. Remember it so you can set it back to this value if anything goes wrong. I guess the S registers on modems are 'standard'. Only some of them are referenced in the XJ1144 user guide. But the user guide of my external modem has a nice summary of all these registers and what they mean. That's where I have my knowledge from. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:01:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kymberly Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kymberly Carleton Subject: Hello again Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello again everyone. =) I have a question about how to hook my 200LX to my desktop pc. I have a serial cable that came with it but what software do I use to make them talk to each other? =) ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) <=Kym=> \>o Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question Comments: To: gjcoleman@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Having said all that, I suppose some hacker maybe could write an assembler >program to access this info (on your desktop Pentium-compatible machine, >booted in DOS mode), but this program would have to read the disk in "raw" >mode. But then why not just reboot Windows 95? Actually 4DOS does give you long filename support. So does the command processor in Win98. I believe they both use some sort of Windows API calls and not "raw" disk reads. Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:45:35 -0800 Reply-To: DFrick@mail.snip.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kymberly Carleton wrote: > > Hello again everyone. =) I have a question about how to hook > my 200LX to my desktop pc. I have a serial cable that came > with it but what software do I use to make them talk to each > other? =) > > ---------- > /\_/\ > ( o o ) <=Kym=> > \>o 'pending on what your skills are, you could goto the HP website and download Transfile 200, or use the built-in comm programme ont the LX and any terminal programme on the Desktop and send files back and forth using Z-modem (set up the LX to use Com1 and the desk top to use whatever the Com port is - probably com2) or there's a file called "zip" out there - on SUPER I think - (not PKzip). U may have opened up a huge thread here, considering how many wayz there are to do it and considering the reponse you got to your Hello post :) Darren. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:45:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bbicioglu1@MMM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: PC-LX Communication Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Welcome: First I advise you to visit site www.pamtop.net. You can use TFWIN200 program to make your palmtop communicate with your PC. This is one of the most popular method LX'ers use. I personnaly re-configured my PC and palmtop such that I can use WIN95 's MY Computer window to map 200LX 's A and C drives, drag & drop, etc... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:17:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question I wuz only buffing y'all on the welcome greeting. WYSIWYG As far as know files are annotated in the DOS files when you do a DIR in DOS. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:13:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Video Question Russell I've got a question for yu too. Have yu ever tried to run the LX connectivity pack on yor T1200? Does it work? If so how did yu do it? I can't get mine to work. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:16:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mikemacd Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mikemacd Subject: Re: PC-LX Communication In-Reply-To: <862566B4.004B326D.00@em-stpmta-01.mmm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I still prefer Laplink 3.0. It's small and reliable. I can do transfers at 115200 w/o Turbo mode. Turbo doesn't seem to work well with my setup. Initially I used DataComm to "download" Laplink 3.0 to the LX while running ProComm Plus in host mode on my PC. I run it from the command line on the LX not via App Manager. I happened to have purchased a copy of this years ago and it was revived when I bought my LX in '96. I don't know if more recent versions will work or if they even have a DOS component. That's a long way of saying it's not freely available but maybe there's a copy kicking around in your "old" floppy box. Mike Mac Donald WA2E On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > Welcome: > First I advise you to visit site www.pamtop.net. > You can use TFWIN200 program to make your palmtop communicate with your PC. > This is one of the most popular method LX'ers use. I personnaly > re-configured my PC and palmtop such that I can use WIN95 's MY Computer > window to map 200LX 's A and C drives, drag & drop, etc... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:19:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: Megahertz XJ1144 Init Comments: To: Ken Neal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just use: AT&FS11=50 &F restores the factory defaults. S11=50 sets the duration of dialing tones (whatever those little beeps when dialing are called) to 50 msec, for the impatient ones like me. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:40:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Hello again Morning kym; Yu kan use the connectivity pack or laplink. I'm sure yu kan find more options with the right combination to suit yor need from the other hundred replies. :) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:45:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... (fwd) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU wrote: > Your provocative CAPITALISATION compels me to reply: Brendan, thanks for the lecture on intellectual properties. I'm overjoyed... (I wrote previously:) > > a CAR is a TANGIBLE asset with LIMITED numbers. ... > Whether an asset is tangible or not is not a relevant distinction in > itself: > It just goes to show that SHOUTING is a poor substitute for actual thought. Yes, ad hominem... Please note that I made TWO conditions: Tangible and *limited*. (caps removed for your enjoyment.) You did address the tangible condition itself, and recognized that alone, it is insufficient. Anticipation of this is why I had the second condition (limited), which you ignored (despite my "shouting" it). In any event, you can argue me into the ground it appears, as I don't know IP law. My point was that Border's analogy didn't hold water. I never said that distributing abandonware was justified legally. Although, your tieing abandonware (copyright law) to trademark breaches (another branch of IP) is not exactly on mark (I realize you inferred that you realize this). But, hey, thanks for the free IP lecture. You just saved me $550 in LS tuition. For relevance to the LX: I just learned that if you have the HP Omnibook phone app for windows, you can actually import info into it without GDBIO. All you have to do is: 1) In the phone app, show the columns of info in exactly the same order as the tab-delim data you want to import. 2) Copy the tab delim data and paste it into the phone app where you want it inserted. This makes for a really nice way to import data into other GDB as well, as the phone.exe app for windows can open up GDB files too, as defined on the 1/200lx. Get the hp OB pim software at: ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:52:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... In-Reply-To: <6981F9749D6@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:29 PM 11/5/98 EST, Peter W. Borders wrote: > People tend to look on software theft as > somehow not hurting anyone but it DOES hurt someone, the person or > persons that put many hours of work into the software. Agreed, except in the case of abandoned software, which just won't be sold anymore. In that case, it is we who are hurt. I won't argue anymore with you on this point. I know you feel otherwise. Let's just agree to disagree. So far, I haven't gotten any complaints or requests to kill my page. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:47:58 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Help Comments: To: Jim Krist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain and is still the best option. You at least have a chance to save your information. If you pull the main batteries but not the backup then it is very likely that when you replace the batteries, the palmtop will not power up. You will end up doing a hard reset anyways and in my experience you will increase your chances of losing what information you have. David -----Original Message----- From: Jim Krist Ýmailto:jtkrist@CLARK.NET¨ Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 6:16 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Help When all else fails, I remove the main battery (but not the backup). Anything wrong with this process? I never remember what the key-combo is to do a hard reset. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:58:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Brooks Subject: Re: Hello again Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain You can purchase a copy of the HP Connectivity pack for $119.00. In my opinion this is the easiest connectivity software there is. other than that you can make a more costly investment and buy a PCMCIA drive for your desktop computer and a PCMCIA Type II or III card for the palmtop. This is more $ but I prefer this method. You can purchase the connectivity pack or the PC Cards from www.PalmtopPaper.com David -----Original Message----- From: Kymberly Carleton Ýmailto:kylana@IX.NETCOM.COM¨ Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:01 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Hello again Hello again everyone. =) I have a question about how to hook my 200LX to my desktop pc. I have a serial cable that came with it but what software do I use to make them talk to each other? =) ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) <=Kym=> \>o, Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: WTB:ACCTON EN2216-1 Comments: To: Tomas.Moberg@ABC.SE In-Reply-To: <199811060823.JAA05528@tor.abc.se> from Tomas Moberg at "Nov 6, 98 09:23:02 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Search for it at http://www.computeresp.com and it should list many sites with good prices. > I realy would like to buy a Accton EN2216-1 for my hp200lx. > I have Found one for $80. Is there anyone who can direct me to someone > who sells them cheaper. Used ones are ok. > > /tomas moberg > Uppsala > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:58:34 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "D.Wood" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "D.Wood" Subject: hp200lx comms help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all I have a hp200lx and am not sure on the coms. I know that com1 is the serial port that needs the cable, and that com2 is for PCMICA cards, but what is alternate and IR in respect are they com3 and com4 or is there something else going. Thanks -- David Wood :) mailto:d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk mailto:d.wood@iee.org work : http://www.thermoteknix.co.uk Queen's award for Export 1998 play : http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2640 (updated 3 June 1998) I try to live one day at a time, but lately several days have attacked me at once. All opinions, misleading statements, prejudices, mistakes and spellings my own... ;o) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:32:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Abandonware... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" al chin scrawled: > Hare, hare. Wow, one shore kan learns a lotta ... > My head hurts.... Good. Maybe it will clear itself of the tumor that blocks intelligible posts. BTW, al, the "kewl" typing is not funny. Just annoying. (Smile and spell, al.) For relevance to the LX: There is a ROM BUG in the 200LX!! (how appropriate to bring up a bug when chiding al about his intentionally bad spelling) (I saw this bug on the usenet, btw...) Here's how to see the 1st bug: With everything closed, and the title screen showing, press APPT. Goto DAY view (F9). Press ADD (F2). Type in a description "test" or whatever. Press NOTE (F3). Type in a note, "Another test." Press OK (F10). Press DONE (F10). The note indicator is a little paper icon. Now try to view the note in the largest font. It will space the lines accordingly, but the character size is the tiniest. And there are three levels of zoom. Second bug: With everything closed, and the title screen showing, press APPT. Goto DAY view (F9). Press ADD (F2). Type in a description "test" or whatever. Press NOTE (F3). Press Fn-SPACE and zoom to the largest Cursor size before typing in a note. Press OK (F10). Press DONE (F10). The note indicator should be a dot. The zoom should work until you leave the appt app. ---- http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:50:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: Portable printer? Comments: To: David Sargeant In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 20/10/98 15:53 , you wrote: >I'm in need of a portable printer .... it >seems like the Pentax PocketJet and the Citizen PN60i are probably the >best bet. So: does anybody have any experience with these? David, I aonly saw your mail now, after two days of wading through 3600 Email messages piled up in my mailbox during a 2-months absence (my Unsuscribe messages failed). I have been working with the Pocket Jet for about a year. It is a great printer because of its size and quality of printing, and the fact that once you have recovered from the purchase price (around 400 US$) you just pay for Fax-paper in rolls, which is cheap. (For high quality prints, I use those A4 sheets supplied with the printer, but very rarely). The printer is sensitive to dropping ( I sent it for repair once), but otherwise endures well. I know the Citizen only from pictures, it uses tapes, like those electric IBM typewriters, which should not be easy to obtain everywhere, but it might have other advantages. Best regards Winfried -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:08:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Fluffy retort... Hi Comport Lighten up, its harmless fun. Yu know some du and some don't. I'd even go along wit yor idea but som of the femail audience don't mind it, as: BTW, never give up your unique spelling. It's charming! Now how kan I refuse a request like dat? Altho in the minority here, but so is the executive suite, and the Marine Corps. i always went with best even if its the minority. Maybe yu kan be one of us, a few good people :) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:30:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... In-Reply-To: <19981106.100823.9798.11.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit al - you a marine? i used to think you could always tell a marine (but you couldn't tell him much) somehow this doesn't fit my mental image of what you look like - maybe we need a place to post pictures of list members so we can see who we're dealing with besides, i need a new cover for my dart board ;-> -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:22:35 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi Comport > Lighten up, its harmless fun. Yu know some du You, yourself, raised the spelling issue giving some of us the chance to express our feelings. Clearly, you have the ability and probably even the right to post your messages the way you want. But as you can tell quite a few people don't find it entertaining anymore. You're right - the majority of us just have no sense of humor. Cute once, maybe twice. But irksome over the long run. In addition, you are not helping the non-English users learn better spelling and are probably confusing the hell out of some of them. IT BECOMES AS HARD TO READ AS ALL UPPERCASE LETTERS AFTER A WHILE. Nonetheless, it AIN'T my list. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:24:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Sexist, Caldemo, voice in cameras, FDD idea, C-64. Hello all, About sexists: once one of you won the hplx.net contest with a short essay about Billy Clinton using his palmtop to keep juicy files of his sex scandal in safety. Going one step further, do you think that the 200LX is suitable in intimate situations, like replacing that infamous cigar? A feminist option for backlight: make the screen fully reflective to serve as a mascara mirror. Caldera's 1.44MB demo: Yes, it is different, than QNX's one. But the browser is not Caldera, it's a licensed version of the czech developed shareware Arachne; with slight modifications. The ori- ginal Arachne can run on 8086/CGA and up . However, due to (lack of) speed the only graphically capable HPLX browser remains WWW/LX. On lowly 386 desktops, the QNX demo is better (inc. the browser), but will only work w/ modem, not LAN. Arachne is easy to set up, but misteriously crashes often on 386, while being rock solid on any 286. It also eats up tremendous lot of conventional RAM (up to 490-550KB). An idea about external CD-ROM and floppy: a device that is smaller than the actual disk. It houses about only the half of the disk and does not rotate it, but rather reads 1/8 sides in one go then turns a few degrees. The image of the disk is built in memory or written onto flash card. This way even a spin motor can be spared, you keep pushing the disk. The head is slot lenght, so doesn't move at all or little. A combo device with magnetic head and multi laser-LED array may also be able to read LS-120 or Zip. But if writing will be possible this way, is hard to tell. Low power ops. I wonder if these newer digital still cameras will be able to store sound clips attached to pictures (I know a Sanyo model has this capability). If they do so and has DSP onboard, they might serve as a 200LX add-on to have voice in palm. I saw a minuscule size camera (was it Fuji DS-1000 ?), any smaller and you can't hold it or lens won't fit. Any news on that Shuttle seen HPLX? Also, if I you spot newly made 200LXes with Jornada logo, do tell us. How are the palmtops dealing with radioactivity? Any X-ray medi- cal or airport staff, reactor servicemen aboard? Having it turned on or off while radiation is present means any difference? Wonder if shuttle operation means that some level of protection is there. Also once heard of a man serving aboard a Los Angeles. A word about C-64 emulation: don't dream about it on 8086. Cosmo, a purpose built game computer had so many specific hardware, like VIC, SID, CIA; that emulation is only possible with a 386 or up. Only the latest PII-350 could achive full 100% running speed at full resolution and frame rate of C-64. And there are still per- formance problems with overlapping sprite execution. Most C-64 programs were graphics & sound intensive, with suprisingly many idle CPU cycles. BTW, I was told a 486SX desktop (or a PC110 if you like) is no match for even running character BASIC programs from a Commie emulation. But you can hook up a 1541 FDD to the parallel port and there is an NC clone called Star Commander for managing D64 and T64 files. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:39:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Arachne Browser Content-Type: text Regarding the post (I just deleted accidentally, so I can't REPLY) on the Arachne web browser. I thought it was posted that this browser works with 8086 and CGA. However, at their website, it appears that they only work as "low" as the EGA display. Is there perhaps an older version available somewere on their site that *does* support CGA? -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:52:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Arachne Browser - Again Content-Type: text I almost answered my own question - found the history section on the Arachne web site. It appears that the release dated 24 April 98 and called 1.40 final_beta was the last one to support CGA, if I understand the comments right. However, that release doesn't appear to actually be posted. The next prior one is indeed posted, called 1.20 Beta 9. But given that so many improvements seemed to have been made in the step to 1.40 final_beta, it might be best to get a copy of that one. Does anyone run this browser on their palmtop (200LX)? If so, which version? Can you e-mail me (off list, if appropriate) to help me with setup and configuration info? Thanks, -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:06:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... > tell a marine (but you couldn't tell him much) That's because we know it all. > i need a new cover for my dart board ;-> Use the the one of yor face, the one with the big krack down the center. A lot of peoples use UPPER CASE exclusively. Alas, acutally it is a participant obsrver exercise to see how intorrolerant some people really are of trivial things. Its makes it easier to understand how people can permit the abortion killer and the Atlanta bomber to run free. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:21:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! Hello all lal law lawyers, I think the whole justice related stuff goes beyond understanding of all non-native and most native english speakers. Not only terms and complicated mumbo-jumbo sentences, but the whole concept. I am amazed how such a big nation like USA can live with that bad legal system. Like 52 states with different laws and civil vs. criminal law completely different or contradictory. Look at O. J. Make the following assumption: God does exist (you swear in US Courts to Lord, so at least they should believe that He is). Then objective and absolute truth exists. Now, O. J. Simpson killed his ex-wife and boyfriend with a samurai sword. That is objective fact. But 12 angry black people declared that O. J. is not guilty and he was released. Later a civil suit was filed and some 10¬7 $ was awarded to victim relatives. However this didn't fork a new criminal prosection process as the two laws are different. And everyone seems confortable with that. USA has most liberal laws for gun, but noone uses 'em for good. In any other contry, even 7th degree relatives were busy sawing the gun barrel and buttock shorter, going on blood revenge; even if posessing a weapon is prohibited. But stupid legal system took away US citizens' common sense and they actually enjoy funny broadcast from court where overpaid solicitors play with law and party with more money for the trial wins. Interested in truth? No. The recent fashion of suing anyone ASAP is dangerous to business as well. Japanese companies try to avoid courts at any cost and work hard on private settlements. They rather try corrupting the govt., a more useful activity. Also their criminal law system is universal and issues capital punishment with no hassle. Weapons for citizens are not allowed. There are very few violent crimes there (except for small "churches" who get killed for gas) and their 5-year-longer-than-USA-average lifespan is much related to this fact. And their industry is working smoother. I am sure if there is no change in avg. US citizen's mind soon, your country will eventually go schisophrenic, as moral code contradicts common sense. This whole previous -unrealistically heated- discussion about abandoned software shows worring sign. I bet I will get flamed; but here is flooding going on right now, so your fire is likely to be put off before gets here. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:25:26 -0600 Reply-To: speters@kdsi.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Peters Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is only one date field in the DOS directory record (for each file), and by convention, it is used for the last modified time. So any normal DOS program that executes or browses the file will not change the date field. The 4DOS utilities may have something else. Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote: > Hi All, > > Quick question BECAUSE I want to be able to do something I see in Windows, > w/ my 200LX. > > In file manager, and I suppose other places, I can look at a file's > properties and see creation date, date last modified and date last accessed > Ýtime, etc. too¨. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:18:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: XJ1144 AT Commands Comments: To: stefan.peichl@metronet.de I've been playing around with the AT commands that Stefan has mentioned and I have determined that my XJ1144 will accept the ATS24=1 and retain it without a problem but if I issue a ATS11=50 command (which is cool, as I too am inpatient) and then issue a ATZ command the modem will not retain the 50ms setting, it's no big deal I was curious if anyone else's modem would retain the ATS11=50 command? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:33:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Blah...Just Blah.." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Blah...Just Blah.." Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive Comments: To: Dan Ridenhour In-Reply-To: <000c01be0905$296628c0$8494a8c0@dan-dell.pulitzer.net>; from Dan Ridenhour on Thu, Nov 05, 1998 at 03:42:18PM -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Caldera's WebSpyder client is based on an early Arachne but developed seperately.. --francois On Thu, Nov 05, 1998 at 03:42:18PM -0600, Dan Ridenhour wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter W. Borders > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: Embedded Systems Conf: DRDOS alive > > > >Are you sure that is Caldera's DRDOS? That sounds alot like the QNX > >demo that can be downloaded from the net, same components and > >features. > > > Its definitely the Caldera product. I downloaded it from their website last > week > and experimented with it for use on my IBM 110 palmtop. It boots DOS7 sets > up > a ramdrive and installs all the web client stuff on the ramdrive and sets up > the TCPIP > stack, etc. ready for use. Pretty slick, and the apps look polished, the > web browser > in particular looked very clean. > > Dan > driden@stlnet.com > > > >Pete > > > >Peter W. Borders > > > >Network Support Technician > >Tidewater Community College > >tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us > > > >-------------------------------------------- > >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:03:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: XJ1144 AT Commands Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I've been playing around with the AT commands that Stefan has mentioned and > I have determined that my XJ1144 will accept the ATS24=1 and retain it > without a problem but if I issue a ATS11=50 command (which is cool, as I too > am inpatient) and then issue a ATZ command the modem will not retain the > 50ms setting, it's no big deal I was curious if anyone else's modem would > retain the ATS11=50 command? you once have to execute AT&W0 to store the S11 value to profile 0. If you then use ATZ to restore profile 0, your S11 value is still there. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:15:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! Comments: To: Feher Tamas In-Reply-To: <111A1966510@sc.bme.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote: > USA has most liberal laws for gun, but noone uses 'em for good. > In any other contry, even 7th degree relatives were busy sawing > the gun barrel and buttock shorter, going on blood revenge; even > if posessing a weapon is prohibited. But stupid legal system As an officer of the law, some of us do use our weapons for good, not evil. My weapon is a tool of my job, as is my LX. One shouldn't make such a blanket, stereotypical statement. Sorry for the off topic reply, but this post really ticked me off. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:18:34 -0800 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Please Don't Feed the Troll Ý Re: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! ¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:14:35 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Scott Dunaway USAET(UTC -05:00)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Scott Dunaway USAET(UTC -05:00)" Subject: Thanks! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello list - Well, I've been lurking for several months now and would like to finally send out an overdue *THANK YOU* to the members of this list. My first palmtop was an HP200LX 1x1meg in April this year which was soon replaced with a 2x8meg when I realized what a powerful pocket-size device it was! I began with the Casio A-10 in 1995 and various Sharp (OZ-6500, ZR-5800) organizers and always wanted more than they could deliver. Now I am quite convinced that I've found one machine that will satisfy my needs for a good few years! Special thanks to Al for the list, Mack for the upgrade, Hal for the Palmtop Papers, the S.U.P.E.R. team and all the shareware authors. Apologies to those not mentioned, but kudos to those who wrote software I use daily- Stefan P, Curt C, Gilles K, Jeffery M, Tom H. and Jorgen W. Cheers, Scott Dunaway Jaguar Powertrain Systems Phone 313-845-0812 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:27:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kilgore@PYLON.PILLAR.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stan Hall Organization: Pillar Communication Subject: Re: XJ1144 AT Commands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Johns wrote: > > I've been playing around with the AT commands that Stefan has mentioned and > I have determined that my XJ1144 will accept the ATS24=1 and retain it > without a problem but if I issue a ATS11=50 command (which is cool, as I too > am inpatient) and then issue a ATZ command the modem will not retain the > 50ms setting, it's no big deal I was curious if anyone else's modem would > retain the ATS11=50 command? My XJ1144 will not keep a S24 setting through a reset to default (ATZ), but mine was set to 1 in the first place. To save the S24 setting and the S11 setting and most other setting, though not all, do a AT&W. This will write your current setting into the flash memory of the modem card, this works for most modern modems. An additional useful command in AT&V which will view the current setting and stored profiles. Note: it doesn't usually list every setting, some setting are also stored in a bit mapped S register and all of the S registers aren't listed. Most modems have two stored profiles 0 and 1. To load the setting of the second profile you can do a ATZ1 and to save setting to the second profile you can do a AT&W1. In addition you will probably also see an entry for phone numbers. Most modems can store upto 4 phone numbers that can be called from a simple AT command, but I don't think anyone uses these much any more. They were real handy when I had a dumb terminal hooked up to a modem, but you might as well let your software do the dialing. If anyone really cares I will try to recall how you actually set and use those numbers. That reminds me of an external 1200 baud modem I used to have. Had built in help for AT commands, you could do a "?" and get a list of available commands, etc. Very user friendly. And if anyone is wanting a Megahertz X-jack XJ1144 modem I still have some available: http://www.telepath.com/pillar/xjack.html -- Stan Hall Pillar Communication http://www.telepath.com/pillar -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:35:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Bugs in Appointment Book (was Abandonware...) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981106103236.00b37c10@comports.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I seem to recall these bugs being mentioned somewhere a while back. They seem like pesky annoyances. Is there any report of data being lost due to either of these bugs, does anybody know? Should I put them in the FAQ? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:56:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: XJ1144 AT Commands Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE On 11-06 03:03pm, the following was written: > you once have to execute AT&W0 to store the S11 value to > profile 0. If you then use ATZ to restore profile 0, your > S11 value is still there. Thanks Stefan... it works great now. I just shaved 1.3 seconds off my dialing time . 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet| QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.23) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:48:43 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Scott Dunaway USAET(UTC -05:00)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Scott Dunaway USAET(UTC -05:00)" Subject: HDM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One more thing then I'll stop cluttering the bandwidth. I forgot to thank Harry Konstas & Rob Koenis for HDM. It is a very nice launcher. My palmtop has three HDM sessions (Programs, Graphics & Games) that are launched from the App. Manager. Just one question- When I add a new item and scroll past the end (?) of the icon selection list, horizontal lines are drawn on the screen and I must reboot (Ctrl-Alt-Del) to regain control. Am I doing something wrong or is it a bug? TIA. Cheers, Scott Dunaway Jaguar Powertrain Systems Phone 313-845-0812 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:04:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: ENOUGH is enough! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings All: Please, this is not a grievence LIST for United States legal policy! 1) While "Abanondonware" might (or might not) be a good idea, it is none the less illegal to freely distribute licensed software with out permission from the manufacturer...'Nuff Said! Please take this discussion elsewhere. 2) While I expect the message regarding firearms(et.al) was not meant to be insulting...it was to some...and Off-Topic...Take It Elsewhere. 3) PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE NOT TOLERATED ON THIS LIST! (my apologies for shouting, but there have been some "humourous" comments made that are getting too close to the line) Lets all get back to the topic that brought us together, and stop picking on the stuff that threatens to drive us apart. Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:17:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: SanDisk 440MB at $895 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is the relevant part of a SanDisk press release for palmtoppers: > SUNNYVALE, CA, Nov. 2, 1998 -- SanDisk Corporation (SNDK: NASDAQ) today > introduced a new generation of flash memory technology that doubles the > capacity of its CompactFlash cards, MultiMediaCards, Type II PC cards, > FlashDrives and flash chipsets. The high performance flash products are > based on a new 128 megabit (Mbit) binary (standard) flash chip designed > by SanDisk. > ... > With the new technology, SanDisks top capacity CompactFlash cards double > from 48 megabyte (MB) to 96MB, Type II PC cards increase in capacity from > 220 to 440MB. > ... > The new products will be demonstrated at COMDEX in Las Vegas, NV, November > 16-20 at the SanDisk booth, Las Vegas Convention Center , North Hall, L-6470. > ... > Sampling of the new SanDisk flash memory cards and chipsets will start in > December with production shipments slated for the first quarter of 1999. > The 128Mbit-based CompactFlash cards will be available in 16, 32, 48, 64, > 80 and 96MB capacities while Type II PC cards will be offered in 280, 350 > and 440MB capacities. Some sample pricing in high volume OEM capacities: > > 96MB CompactFlash card, $220 > 440MB Type II PC card, $895 If Thaddeus buys a 'high volume', I'm willing to pay $1000 for the 440MB. Prices come close to $2/MB! It has been $5/MB for a long time. I payed $80/MB for my 10MB SunDisk in 1993. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:18:13 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question > Hi All, > > Quick question BECAUSE I want to be able to do something I see in Windows, > w/ my 200LX. > > In file manager, and I suppose other places, I can look at a file's > properties and see creation date, date last modified and date last accessed > Ýtime, etc. too¨. > I noticed that the 'date last accessed' changes even if I only "quick view" > a file, without opening it in the original app. > > Where do these three times hide in DOS? I don't see them w/ my standard DIR > command.... Is there a DOS 5.0 'thing' I can do in my 200LX to make the > files confess this extra info? > > << doesn't have to be all the time, if it can't always be displayed, just an > unknown switch for DIR would be neat>> ALSO (and this might get the > philosophers going) will TESTING for these times Ýi.e. 'measuring' this > state¨ CHANGE any of them? > > TIA > > --tim Are you using win95 with FAT32? I don't think FAT16 (or FAT12) store anything but the creation date. Other OS's do store this kind of information and I think FAT32 does as well. This would also apply to NTFS under WinNT I think. I don't think you have that sort of information available under FAT16 on the HP200LX. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:24:01 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question > DOS is actually looking at a different directory record than Windows > 95/98/NT looks at. That's how you get DOS-compatible (xxxxxxxx.xxx) file > names even if you create the file in Windows with a long file name - the > short name is stored in the DOS-compatible directory record. The last-access > times and create times are not stored there because DOS wouldn't know what > to do with them anyway. There is a Windows API to access the larger > directory record; this API is unavailable to DOS. > All this applies to your Windows 95/98/NT machine. The 200LX wouldn't have > this info period, unless you ran Windows 95/98/NT on it, which of course you > couldn't - incompatible processor. Actually the extra time information is only available under FAT32, I just checked and under FAT16 all you get is "Modified" which is the same as DOS. In FAT16 the long filename information is availble to the DOS command processor but command.com ignores it. So the answer is that unless you have FAT32 on your LX the information is not even there. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:24:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Frank McConnell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: XJ1144 AT Commands In-Reply-To: Stan Hall's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:27:31 -0600 Stan Hall wrote: > Most modems have two stored profiles 0 and 1. To load the setting of > the second profile you can do a ATZ1 and to save setting to the second > profile you can do a AT&W1. I'm thinking that the XJ1144 also lets you set the default stored profile with AT&Y: AT&Y0 if you want to load profile 0 by default, or AT&Y1 to load profile 1. -Frank McConnell -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:46:11 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Sexist, Caldemo, voice in cameras, FDD idea, C-64. > An idea about external CD-ROM and floppy: a device that is smaller > than the actual disk. It houses about only the half of the disk > and does not rotate it, but rather reads 1/8 sides in one go then > turns a few degrees. The image of the disk is built in memory or > written onto flash card. This way even a spin motor can be spared, > you keep pushing the disk. The head is slot lenght, so doesn't > move at all or little. A combo device with magnetic head and multi > laser-LED array may also be able to read LS-120 or Zip. But if > writing will be possible this way, is hard to tell. Low power ops. > A manual cd drive, novel idea but I don't think it would catch on. Wht might be interesting though would be a cd drive that is reduced to just the spindle with drive motor and head assembly. Think of a narrow box with a slot for the cd, the box is just as big as the distance from edge to ceter plus a little and a couple inches wide, maybe 1/2 inch thick. The disk would mostly be in open air spinning, just watch the fingers around the edge. There actually was a record player of similar design a while ago. You all remember records, those vinyl things that plaed music. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:34:10 GMT Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... In message <19981106.100823.9798.11.hobchi@juno.com>, hobchi@JUNO.COM said: > > BTW, never give up your unique spelling. It's charming! > > Now how kan I refuse a request like dat? Altho in the > minority here, but so is the executive suite, and the > Marine Corps. i always went with best even if its the > minority. Maybe yu kan be one of us, a few good people :) As long as we're taking al's inventory here, I'll toss in my two cents. I find his affectations and poor to non-existent attributions distracting. It makes reading his posts something of a chore. I would just skip reading them entirely, if it wasn't for his wit. Ted Heise -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:55:22 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! > Hello all lal law lawyers, > > I think the whole justice related stuff goes beyond understanding > of all non-native and most native english speakers. Not only terms > and complicated mumbo-jumbo sentences, but the whole concept. > > I am amazed how such a big nation like USA can live with that bad > legal system. Like 52 states with different laws and civil vs. > criminal law completely different or contradictory. Look at O. J. Well, since many of our states are as big as whole countries in Europe, and those countries have different laws, its not really that different. Think of the US as all of Europe under one country and it looks quite similar. > > Make the following assumption: God does exist (you swear in US > Courts to Lord, so at least they should believe that He is). Then > objective and absolute truth exists. Now, O. J. Simpson killed > his ex-wife and boyfriend with a samurai sword. That is objective > fact. But 12 angry black people declared that O. J. is not guilty > and he was released. Later a civil suit was filed and some 10¬7 $ > was awarded to victim relatives. However this didn't fork a new > criminal prosection process as the two laws are different. And > everyone seems confortable with that. that whole arguement is rather foolish. First off, prove that god exists. Second, were you an actual witness of the O.J. related murder. You must have been since you state that it is a fact that he killed them. I can't say it is a fact since I didn't see it and from what I gathered from the trial NO ONE saw it so it would be hard to say it is a fact. I am not saying our legal system is great but it works pretty well given the limitations on it. If you don't understand it you really shouldn't post about it. Of course that never stopped you before on any other subject. Enjoy your flood, do try not to get washed away. Also, in the future you might want to post you long rants about government and laws on a list that is ABOUT government and law not the HPLX list. I am sure others will agree with me on that one. Also, if you want to reply to me about this do it privately, not in the list. Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:34:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Web site correction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can't find the message in my HPLX-L folder, but somebody recently advised somebody else to go to a couple of 200LX-related web sites. My domain was incorrectly listed as www.hplx.com, when it should be www.hplx.net. Sorry for the confusion... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:58:01 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! > As an officer of the law, some of us do use our weapons for good, not > evil. My weapon is a tool of my job, as is my LX. One shouldn't make such > a blanket, stereotypical statement. Sorry for the off topic reply, but > this post really ticked me off. > > 73 Jeff > I agree totally. Keep up the good work protecting the public, yours is sometimes a thankless jobs so let me just says THANKS. Pete PS. I keep my HPLx in holster on my belt, if you do be careful not to draw the wrong "tool" at the wrong time. It would probably confuse the bad guys if you point your HPLX at them. :-) Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:59:49 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... In-Reply-To: <19981106.130648.9798.12.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, al chin, keyboard dyslexic, wrote: Ýsnip¨ > A lot of peoples use UPPER CASE exclusively. Not on the list... > Alas, acutally it is a participant obsrver exercise > to see how intorrolerant some people really are > of trivial things. Its makes it easier to understand > how people can permit the abortion killer and the > Atlanta bomber to run free. Clearly, not everyone sees spelling differences as a trivial thing. It makes the posts annoyingly difficult to read, which is usually a shame. If you can write proper English, then why don't you? Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:56:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: SanDisk 440MB at $895 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi Stefan, <> Can't do that yet. However, since my last post a couple of weeks ago, our costs dropped significantly on higher end cards (48M to 220M). Here is the new pricing, now at www.PalmtopPaper.com. Notice the 220M is $979, 175M is $829, 150M $699. SanDisk 10 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $119.00 C10 SanDisk 20 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $179.00 C20 SanDisk 30 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $229.00 C30 SanDisk 40 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $279.00 C40 SanDisk 48 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $319.00 C48 Higher Capacity Type II Cards Description/Link Price Item # SanDisk 85 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $449.00 C85 SanDisk 110 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $529.00 C110 SanDisk 150 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $699.00 C150 SanDisk 175 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $829.00 C175 SanDisk 220 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $979.00 C220 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:27:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Lewis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Lewis Subject: Re: Video Question MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII al chin writes: >Russell >I've got a question for yu too. Have yu ever >tried to run the LX connectivity pack on yor >T1200? Does it work? If so how did yu do it? >I can't get mine to work. > >Semper mobilis, >yor pal al :-) ............. Hi Al, No I don't use the c-pack. I purchased it when I first got my LX a couple of years ago. Ended up taking it back because I thought the display looked so hideous with CGA umulation on a VGA monitor. (I was using a gray-scale monitor at the time.) I remember that I thought it was a bit ironic that a text-based application should have to be in graphics mode (on the desktop.) It seems that many of the apps either require VGA or a 186 CPU or higher. Tried to run HV on my Poqet with no success. I usually use Zip to do all my file transfer. The version of Ventura is the pre-windows one that used Digital Research's GEM interface. By the way, does anyone know what GEM stands for? I still think that the early Toshiba laptops have some of the best keyboards. Russell ------------------------------------------------ This message has been painstakingly handcrafted according to the time-honored tradition of using only the highest-quality ASCII characters. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:47:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: FIRE 1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The new FIRE now works similar to STARS. Use the following keys: + add oyxgen - take oxygen = reset oxygen SPACE suspend (freeze screen) ESC quit 0-6 set corresponding screen mode I was too lazy to write a separate DOC file. Look into the first lines of FIRE.C-- for the new keys. If you look at the code, you will see, that all different screen modes use the same code. I do not handle them different. It turned out (by chance?) that all screen modes represent flames in some way. Very surprising for me! I prefer mode 3. You may also use the palmtops ZOOM keys in this mode. Mode 2 is also nice if you invert the screen (ON /). Looks like a burning oil field. Modes 4-6 resemble more to swifts of smoke or clouds. I remember my years at universitiy of Heidelberg, when someone stated, that artificial intelligence might turn out to be very simple to program. I never believed that until I rewrote FIRE. At least some aspects of artificial intelligence seem to be programmable with simple algorithms. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:05:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question Comments: To: "tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us" re: unless you have FAT32 on your LX the information is not even there. Ah ha! Thanks - guess this means I can't do this in regular DOS. Over the weekend I'll experiment a bit 'cause I want to know if the info. 'goes away' then, when you transfer a file from a 32-bit DOS environment to a 16 bit machine and then send it back again.... I have a number of 'odd' reasons for wanting to be able to do this, mostly related to being able to verify the integrity of an electronic document stored 'for the record' Ý"See, look at the file date, this hasn't been modified since we wrote it...."¨. I know that you can modify this date/time in many utilities and hacks and hoped the other data was stored somewhere obscure but within the file or its internal cluster pointers, etc. Also, I like to coax more data/capabilities from my 200LX, each day ;-) Thanks to all! --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs 254-287-7608 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:20:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Thanks! Comments: To: "Scott Dunaway USAET(UTC -05:00)" Hey Scott - welcome in, out of lurkdome .... does this mean you love the list members so much that we can all get a break on a Jag? <, sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Tables in HV Comments: To: Tomas Moberg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would like to set the tables in HV to a width of 6 characters wich > would give me the 6 columns per row that I whant. > Is this achivable? Changing the font did not help. There is no control over that in HV. Sorry. Perhaps fonts will help. Try one of the tiny fonts from Peichl. Avi Meshar D&A Software, Inc. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:31:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Fluffy retort... Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Al: > Hi Comport > Lighten up, its harmless fun. Yu know some du > and some don't. I'd even go along wit yor idea > but som of the femail audience don't mind it, as: A miracle happened! I actually agree with Comports on something! Yes, we both think that your spelling is well, er... rather well, ANNOYING!!! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:52:04 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Bugs in Appointment Book (was Abandonware...) Pls do for reference if nuthing else. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:29:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Legal issues of USA, way way off topic! Hi Tomas; I can and do agree on a lot of what you say with the exception of the following. Make the following assumption: God does exist (you swear in US Courts to Lord, so at least they should believe that He is). Then objective and absolute truth exists. Now, O. J. Simpson killed I don't know if god exists and I do not presume so You know what they about ASSUME, I presume? The same goes goes for truth. The only absolute I know of is DEATH. Taxes can be evaded but I wouldn't wanna get caught. Like they say tho, kant or shouldn't argue politics or religion in a bar or on da innernet. Maybe in 101 :) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:21:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Video Question Thanks Russell Thought I could get C-Pack to run on my T1200. Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:19:45 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jason_YAP@MOH.GOV.SG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jason C H Yap Subject: Quick Draw LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >PS. I keep my HPLx in holster on my belt, if you do be careful not to >draw the wrong "tool" at the wrong time. It would probably confuse >the bad guys if you point your HPLX at them. :-) I usually keep my LX in my pants back pocket when I am walking or otherwise upright. Over time, it is second nature to use the fingers of the right hand to shove/flick the LX partway out of the pocket from below (through the cloth), keep the hand going upwards and grabbing the palmtop just as it reaches its zenith, and keep it going in a smooth curve in front of me, and then meeting the left hand to open the case. I once met an old classmate at a IT shopping centre in Singapore, and when he said he was looking for a palmtop accessories shop, I said something like "LX?", and we both *simultaneously* whipped out our palmtop in the aforementioned smooth curves to show our palmtopness to each other ... we both burst into laughter when we realised how much like g unslingers at the ok corrall we looked. Don't know about confusing bad guys, but I think we amused the passers-by no end. jasonyap -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 02:47:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Re: P.Border's analogies (was Re: Abandonware... (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Get the hp OB pim software at: > ---- > http://fly.to/hplx <--old stuff is new... > Would like to. What decompression software do I need as I was unable to unzip with UNZIP, PKUNZIP and WINZIP. HP -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 00:58:45 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan Lombaard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Lombaard Subject: PostScript to text converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know of a program that would convert a generic postscript file into txt? I have some postscript files that I would like to convert to txt files that can be read on the 200LX. I would appreciate any advice, Stefan Lombaard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:22:18 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Mechanical / Structural Dos Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone in the group know of good sites to obtain DOS engineering software. Particularly software that uses the metric units system. Have some good windows based engineering software but have not found much good DOS software. Regards to all......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:29:18 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: MathCad 2.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Any idea where I could obtain operating instructions for this program......I am currently evaluating it 8-) Regards.......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 06:44:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , cwbrad@IBM.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "C.W. Bradley" Subject: Re: PostScript to text converter Comments: cc: Stefan Lombaard In-Reply-To: <001001be0a47$b1145c90$4ef0a7cb@pro200> In <001001be0a47$b1145c90$4ef0a7cb@pro200>, on 11/08/98 at 12:58 AM, Stefan Lombaard said: >Does anyone know of a program that would convert a generic postscript >file into txt? I have some postscript files that I would like to convert >to txt files that can be read on the 200LX. Get GhostScript, or preferably, GhostView. Superb freeware. http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN http://www.galis.com/epcnash/www/hpc/hpcindex.html Emmanuel Presbyterian Church, Nashville, TN http://www.galis.com/epcnash/index.html A New Church Development of Tennessee-Alabama Presbytery ÝAssociate Reformed Presbyterian Synod¨ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@ibm.net FAX (931)840-0679 Created using OS/2 WARP and MR2/ICE #20166 ----------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:28:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kathleen Hollington Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kathleen Hollington Subject: Looking for basic 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Would anyone have a basic (1/2MB, no accessories or flash etc.) 200lx in good condition that they would be wiling to part with for a reasonable price. I don't need manuals or anything, just a good basic unit. Please email me with details and price. Thanks. p.s. I'd probably also consider a 100lx. -- Robert St-Louis -- OTTAWA/CANADA -- '68 IIA SWB LR -- kholling@nrn1.nrcan.gc.ca.NOSPAM (remove NOSPAM when replying) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 05:34:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kymberly Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kymberly Carleton Subject: Terminate Filer? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've read that you can terminate filer in the application manager to gain more memory. How do you do this? I tried using the close filer program on SUPER and that doesn't work. Is there another way to close the filer? =) ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) -= Kym =- \>o From: Jeff Malka Subject: Linux/Unix on hte HP Does any one know if Linux or any flavor of Unix can run on the HP? If it can, is there a way to have both Linux and the LX's appmgr on the same machine? I am looking for a way to learn Unix without giving up the 200LX functions. Jeff -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Malka ----------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 05:54:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kymberly Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kymberly Carleton Subject: Oops Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all. =) I made a mistake. That file does work after all. It seems I followed the directions, but not in the right order. My apologies for asking a question before fully exploring it. =( ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) -= Kym =- \>o, al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Terminate Filer? Morning Kym; Unless the file yu got is corrupt, it doth work. You have to click on filer at least once, come back out, and then hit F6 to close it. Try it again, you'll like it, it likes yu :) Semper mobilis, yor pal al :-) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:07:18 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Linux/Unix on hte HP Comments: To: malkajef@orthohelp.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Does any one know if Linux or any flavor of Unix can run on the HP? >If it can, is there a way to have both Linux and the LX's appmgr on the >same machine? >I am looking for a way to learn Unix without giving up the 200LX >functions.>Jeff I believe the following is the closest attempt: http://www.erols.com/rld/ as I understand it further development has stopped, the developer was looking for help at one stage. Best regards.......Liam Bunbury, Western Australia -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:59:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MACIEK ZIUZIA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: MACIEK ZIUZIA Subject: nikon coolpix 100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE0A5F.30F6BCC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE0A5F.30F6BCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everybody! Does Nikon Coolpix work with HP660LX Maciek ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01BE0A5F.30F6BCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everybody!
Does Nikon Coolpix work with=20 HP660LX
Maciek
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I'm looking for HP 660LX in a good=20 price.
maciekz@bigfoot.com
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I'm looking for HP 660LX in a good=20 price.
maciekz@bigfoot.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_0034_01BE0A5F.6A5B6CE0-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 08:10:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: Linux/Unix on hte HP Comments: To: Jeff Malka In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Jeff Malka wrote: > Does any one know if Linux or any flavor of Unix can run on the HP? > If it can, is there a way to have both Linux and the LX's appmgr on the > same machine? > I am looking for a way to learn Unix without giving up the 200LX > functions. There were plans recently posted to develop LXix, a Linux (well, ELKS) port specifically for the 200LX. But the naysayers may have slain the enthusiasm for the project. Anybody have any news on this? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:52:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Why I write off-topic? BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. Hello all, First, I'd better not write off-topic US specific here as this list is for HP/DOS palmtops, their users from around the globe. I received four replies, all of them ending in some patriotic USA tunes for an extent. So, I'd like to tell a concept, that is quite well-known in Europe; but unheard of elsewhere. (criminal law issues to be discussed in email; ever heard of DNA?) Wheel of History: Civilization started in Mezophotamy/Babylon around 6000-4000BC; then Egypt became economy center 2500-700BC, then ancient Greece 700-200BC, then Roman Empire/Italy 200BC-400 AD, then middle-western Europe 600-1400 (feudalism), then north- western Europe (Netherlands and later Great Britain) ruled until 1900. Jump over the ocean and USofAmerica gets control circa 1917 keeping it today. I see no reason this wheel should stop rotating in uninterrupted Western direction; so regardless of Japan's recent econimics problems, MegAsia will get the chance very soon. Notice that none of the previous rulers evaded heavy punches by either nature or human hands: Babylon went desert, Egypt enslaved to serve as wheatfield for Romans, Greek battled each other into Roman rule, Roma burned up by barbars/hun, middle-western Europe scorched in the 30-year war, north-western Europe hosting WWI. About abandonware, I'd have rather kept my secret idea that using unlicensed copies of old SW on obsolete computers is just a practical question (those trying to catch you may or may not know how to operate these devices) rather than ethical or legal. BTW, get a look at to see the future of SW in the light of the latest "Hallowen 2" M$ document, or visit CNN's site I suggest you throw away all your moral rigors TEMPORARILY and start collecting old sw MEDIA right now. When you are finished and has n hundred pieces of 5,25" SW titles in the closet; you may still decide if you use them or scrap'em. But while you are collecting for a few months, nasty changes in IT are expected to take place in the meantime; that may reset your recent ideas about SW ethics. If you do not collect, the infor- mation in obsolete sw will be lost; and should you ever need that for any reason than that's beyond repair. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:04:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Terminate Filer? Comments: To: Kymberly Carleton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As Al so "properly" wrote, Filer must be open, then switch to Appmgr (&...more) and then use the CLOSE functionkey when you are pointing at Filer. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:05:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP660LX Comments: To: MACIEK ZIUZIA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm looking for HP 660LX in a good price. You'll find that this list is really dedicated to HP's DOS palmtops, the HP95/100/200 and not the Win-ce machines. I don't follow prices but there are web sites that do search out prices on various goods. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:22:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: A serious and one fun TT/LX question. WWW/LX over LAN? Hello all, When I first heard TT/LX name my immediate thought was that it's for controlling toy trains. OK, that's not the case, but anyone using a palmtop for remote controlling/ run preprogram scaled railway systems? I wonder if DOS w/ custom developed software is up to that task or taller OS like QNX v.1./2. is desirable. A real TT/LX question: authors explained that it was partially inspired by Lotus Agenda, etc. Now, can it cooperate with Agena that is run from outside SysMan? (BTW, any Lotus Agenda 2.0 user should immediately upgrade to v2.1 on Lotus's site; else your datafiles may be corrupted in a crash beyond repair). When will be a LAN-capable WWW/LX, that has usable demo limit? Until that, can I fake the LAN to appear as TCP/IP over phoneline, so I can get a look at the recent 16KB version? Since NW3.12->4.1 upgrade, I can no longer run Arachne; not enough low memory 8-(. My only pleaure is that these ArcNet 286's seem to access data faster, than the P5's attached to the coax-10mbps segment; as their ring is constantly overloaded. Doslynx rulez! Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:25:40 -0500 Reply-To: Wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter R Francis Organization: The hand that uses the Amiga is the hand that rules the world. Subject: Forward: New Deal on 80186/8086? In-Reply-To: <01BE09A3.15370880.stan@newdealinc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Here is a forwarded reply from Stan Chan, stan@newdealinc.com, relating to a query of New Deal that will run on the HP200LX, possibly some of you will be interested. Cheers! On 06-Nov-98 16:29:59, Stan Chan articulated... The only version we still have left which will run on an older machine such as an 8086 is the Geoworks Quickstart. This is version 1.29. The price of this product is $49.95 and can be purchased by calling 1-800-985-4263. Stan Chan New Deal Rep --EOFM-- -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - HP200LX A2000 Alinco DJ580 Icom 281 Kenwood 530S o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:11:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: ...BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:57:44 -0500 (EST) 01h05m12s ago ... On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote: > BTW, get a look at to see the future of SW in > the light of the latest "Hallowen 2" M$ document, or visit CNN's > site I suggest you throw away all your moral rigors > TEMPORARILY and start collecting old sw MEDIA right now. Huh...? OK - after visiting these sites, I'm still have no idea what this is about. I don't doubt Monopoly$oft's desire to gain world domination, but what is this "Hallowen 2" (Halloween 2??) doc anyway? Where (exactly) can it be found? Did check both sites mentioned, but didn't feel like spending an hour+ looking around... BTW - what's up with the vague hints of doom creeping into the list? First we have the mysterious "somebody is playing with CIH (whatever)", message, but no mention of what files are supposed to be infected or where they are... C'mon, if anyone knows about virus-contaminated software, some details would be useful. Also a note to the administrator of the site the files are from could help. Now there's the M$ "halloween 2" thing, whatever that is. ??? -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:23:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Why I write off-topic? BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. In-Reply-To: <127270A7E76@sc.bme.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote: Ýsnip¨ You forgot to answer the question you asked in the subject: "Why I write off-topic?" Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 10:30:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: ...BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. In-Reply-To: <199811071911.OAA15491@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote: > Huh...? OK - after visiting these sites, I'm still have no idea what > this is about. I don't doubt Monopoly$oft's desire to gain world > domination, but what is this "Hallowen 2" (Halloween 2??) doc anyway? > Where (exactly) can it be found? Did check both sites mentioned, but > didn't feel like spending an hour+ looking around... I did a search on www.cnn.com for "Microsoft" and came up with a story about how a memo was written at Microsoft speculating that Microsoft could stop development on Linux and its threat to Windows NT with lengthy court battles. It also stated that Linux was stealing features from Windows NT. Apparently there was another memo before this, with a similar topic, and it was called the "Halloween" memo. So this one is "Halloween 2." > BTW - what's up with the vague hints of doom creeping into the list? People are getting so pessimistic these days. > First we have the mysterious "somebody is playing with CIH > infected or where they are... C'mon, if anyone knows about > virus-contaminated software, some details would be useful. Also a > note to the administrator of the site the files are from could help. > Now there's the M$ "halloween 2" thing, whatever that is. It's obvious what it is... Microsoft is infiltrating us and trying to panic us into switching to Windows CE. We've gotten virus warnings, bug reports, and even worse. Pretty soon we'll start seeing new list subscribers posting about how the 200LX is not year 2000 compatible. Come clean, Joe... you're a double-agent, aren't you! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 10:40:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Time calculations? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sitting here at work summing up my time sheet, and I was just wondering... is there an add-in or a solver equation or anything for the HP Calc application that would let me do time calculations? Date calculations are handled quite nicely, but I can't find any way to do time calculations. (Granted, I haven't looked at the manual, mainly because I don't have it at work here with me.) I use TimeTracker/LX, but for this application I just want something that will quickly sum up times. Right now I have to use my 48GX's time calc functions, and I'd rather do it all on the LX. Anybody have any ideas? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 10:34:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Allen Solof Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Allen Solof Subject: Sell/Trade 200LX 32MB/DS/14.4 etc. In-Reply-To: <001001be0a47$b1145c90$4ef0a7cb@pro200> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if interested, please email me for details. allensolof@boone.net thanks -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:17:23 -0500 Reply-To: nickwb4sqi@wwd.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nick Marsh Organization: None at the moment Subject: Re: XJ1144 AT Commands Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Johns wrote: > > I've been playing around with the AT commands that Stefan has mentioned and > I have determined that my XJ1144 will accept the ATS24=1 and retain it > without a problem but if I issue a ATS11=50 command (which is cool, as I too > am inpatient) and then issue a ATZ command the modem will not retain the > 50ms setting, it's no big deal I was curious if anyone else's modem would > retain the ATS11=50 command? After you set all your registers enter AT&W0 to write it to memory. You can review the setup by sending AT&V, which shows both the 0 and 1 memory pages. ATZ will use the current page which is usually 0 but you can force it to use the second page by AT&Y1 I think, I'm not at my desk so I'm not positive about last command Jeff. If you want another command set to use set all your commands/registers and then issue a AT&W1 to write it to the other memory page. There are also 4 places for storing phone numbers. You'll see all this when you issue the AT&V command. -- 73 Nick Marsh WB4SQI -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:37:21 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JohnMark5@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Peckham Subject: Engineering DOS Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The ASME site is a good source, there's some Windows software as well, but countless DOS files both engineering related and other technical stuff. http://www.mecheng.asme.org/database/browse.html or ftp://ftp.mecheng.asme.org/pub/ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:48:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Would you guys SHUT UP PLEASE Ý M$ Hallowen doc 2 ¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This off-topic garbage is driving me nuts. Here. I'll point you to the Halloween documents if you guys will just SHUT UP already. I don't read this list for spelling wars, Microsoft bashing, political debates, discussions of sexism, or any of the other completely unrelated crap that clogs this mailing list and wastes my time. Here as promised are the Halloween documents. DON'T WASTE MY TIME BY DISCUSSING THEM HERE. There are PLENTY of other forums for that. http://www.opensource.org/halloween.html - Joe PS. David -- no, I'm not a double agent. I'm a septuple agent. More dangerous, but the pay is better. :-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:39:56 GMT Reply-To: neil@skipper.nu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Tungate Subject: Re: Sexist, Caldemo, voice in cameras, FDD idea, C-64. In-Reply-To: <6B066BE7E24@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:46:11 EST, Peter W. Borders wrote: >A manual cd drive, novel idea but I don't think it would catch on. >Wht might be interesting though would be a cd drive that is reduced >to just the spindle with drive motor and head assembly. Think of a >narrow box with a slot for the cd, the box is just as big as the >distance from edge to ceter plus a little and a couple inches wide, >maybe 1/2 inch thick. The disk would mostly be in open air spinning, >just watch the fingers around the edge. There actually was a record >player of similar design a while ago. You all remember records, those >vinyl things that plaed music. :-) I have a portable audio CD player like this. It's a Sony, and hasn't been available for a few years now. It is designed to take those little CD singles internally, and for full size CDs, the disc hangs out of two = sides as you describe. I wonder if I could access the digital data stream internally... --=20 Neil Tungate Team 200LX UK -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:28:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , James Scheffler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Scheffler Subject: Re: ...BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <199811071911.OAA15491@moon.web2000.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:11 PM 11/07/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:57:44 -0500 (EST) > >01h05m12s ago ... >On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote: > >> BTW, get a look at to see the future of SW in >> the light of the latest "Hallowen 2" M$ document, or visit CNN's >> site I suggest you throw away all your moral rigors >> TEMPORARILY and start collecting old sw MEDIA right now. > >Huh...? OK - after visiting these sites, I'm still have no idea what >this is about. I don't doubt Monopoly$oft's desire to gain world >domination, but what is this "Hallowen 2" (Halloween 2??) doc anyway? >Where (exactly) can it be found? Did check both sites mentioned, but >didn't feel like spending an hour+ looking around... > >BTW - what's up with the vague hints of doom creeping into the list? >First we have the mysterious "somebody is playing with CIH (whatever)", >message, but no mention of what files are supposed to be infected or >where they are... C'mon, if anyone knows about virus-contaminated >software, some details would be useful. Also a note to the administrator >of the site the files are from could help. Now there's the M$ "halloween >2" thing, whatever that is. > >??? The "Halloween Document" as it's been dubbed isn't a virus, though it certainly is ominous. It is a CONFIRMED GENUINE micro$haft internal memo about the threat of Open Source Software, specificly Apache, Linux and Mozilla. (Presumably you know what Linux is. Apache is the web server with the #1 market share right now, and it's absolutely free. Mozilla is Netscape communicator, but they've released the source for open development.) Essentially this document outlines the threat of OSS (Open Source Software) to the Micro$shaft way, and posits ways of combatting OSS. www.tuxedo.org/~esr/ is where it originally showed up. I do not know what the 'halloween 2' document is, but likely it is something in this vein. RIGHLY RECCOMMENDED READING!!! R. James Scheffler -and- Srakkt-Hrairh ****************** "Do you like your spleen? I can make a nice little hat of it for you." -Srakkt-Hrairh http://www.tiac.net/users/srakkt/ E-mail:srakkt@tiac.net -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:46:31 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , RONY ENGAL Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: RONY ENGAL Subject: CASIO BOSS TO 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I AM USING A CASIO BOSS SFR-20 FOR 4 YEARS AND HAVE IN IT 600 NAMES AND TELEPHONE CARDS. I GOT A LX200 AND LIKE IT VERY MUCH, IT RUNS FAXES INTERNET AND GAMES -BUT HOW DO I TRANSFER ALL MY DATA FROM THE CASIO TO THE 200LX . I HAVE CONNECTIVITY PACKS TO PC FOR BOTH MACHINES. I INTEND TO GET RID FROM THE CASIO AS SOON AS I SUCCEED. I APPRECIATE ANY HELP. RONY ENGAL HAIFA ISRAEL -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:50:09 -0900 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Travis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Travis Subject: For Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have an HP 95LX, 100LX, or 200LX for sale? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 22:58:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: CASIO BOSS TO 200LX Comments: To: RONY ENGAL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you can dump your data as comma delimited or in a columnar mode, you can find tools to import it into the 200. I never rememeber the supersite www offhand!! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:15:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Why I write off-topic? BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2. Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gosh, Tamas Feher - I want you to be my hero! You know EVERYTHING! You are so smart, and so deep and so, so... so... Hell i don't know what you are. Will you please be my hero? I want to adopt you as my moral leader, legal leader, as my guru in all things of knowledge - EVERYTHING. I want you to tell me how to do everything, how to live, how to think how to eat, how to treat women like they were dirt, everything. You know it all so well! Please, please be my HERO!!! Avi Meshar -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:15:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: A serious and one fun TT/LX question. WWW/LX over LAN? Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A real TT/LX question: authors explained that it was partially > inspired by Lotus Agenda, etc. Now, can it cooperate with Agena > that is run from outside SysMan? (BTW, any Lotus Agenda 2.0 user > should immediately upgrade to v2.1 on Lotus's site; else your > datafiles may be corrupted in a crash beyond repair). It cannot. You could maybe export Comma Delimited Files from TimeTracker/LX to Agenda. > When will be a LAN-capable WWW/LX, that has usable demo limit? Are you gonna get your license then? - it is in progress now. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:30:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kym Carleton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kym Carleton Subject: Another Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all. =) I feel kinda dumb asking all these questions, but here is another. I was trying out HDM and was wondering if there is a way to run the built in applications like appoinment book from it or from dos? Thanks =) ---------- /\_/\ ( o o ) -= Kym =- \>o Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: CASIO BOSS TO 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I never remember the supersite www offhand!! http://www.palmtop.net/super.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:47:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: CASIO BOSS TO 200LX Comments: To: RONY ENGAL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Rony I did this conversion a couple of years ago... Email me direct with your queries and I'll try to help.. I went from Casio SF9000 to 200LX. Russell -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:40:34 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Tables in HV In-Reply-To: <199811060823.JAA05531@tor.abc.se> from "Tomas Moberg" at Nov 6, 98 09:23:04 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would like to set the tables in HV to a width of 6 characters wich > would give me the 6 columns per row that I whant. I should let the experts handle this one; but anyway: HV handles tables differently from how you would expect. HV is great; but not perfect. AFAIK, you can't make it display tables the way you want. One alternative is to use the 
 ...
tags, which simply formats the text according to the spaces, tabs and newlines - just like normal text! So the following text will come out the same as it is here: (ah ... lowercase works, too: 
 ...
. I just think it sufficiently important to merit capitals.) 
                 my cat              my dog Ý*¨
                 ------              ------
chases:          mice, birds         cats
actually eats:   "Whiskers"          "Pal"
sleeps:          wherever it likes   in the doghouse
While this may seem that it defeats the whole purposes of tables in html (ie it is formated automatically), you still get the benefit of html headings, bolding etc, and of course hyper-links. It might be fun to write a script to convert html style tables into the above ascii kind, to automate this process. Yes, that would definitely be fun! Hope this helps Brendan PS another method is to write a utility that creates an image based on the html table - I only meantion this silly idea because this is how latex2html (perl script) actually creates html tables (for various reasons. Ý*¨ I don't actually have a dog or a cat at this time. -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:24:02 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: what is "kterm"? In-Reply-To: <199811072315.PAA12650@ftel.net> from "A. Meshar" at Nov 7, 98 03:15:31 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi WHen I try to read Avi's last few posts (on a unix machine), I get this error message: ---Executing: kterm sh: kterm: not found Command failed: kterm -geometry +0+0 -e more /tmp/mm.a19218 /dev/null I don't get to read the posts, and I don't even know why! I have also got it from a Japanese (I gather) poster some time ago. -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:56:53 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: PostScript to text converterr In-Reply-To: <199811071241.HAA08926@transfer.usit.net> from "C.W. Bradley" at Nov 7, 98 06:44:23 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >convert a generic postscript file into txt? > > Get GhostScript, or preferably, GhostView. Superb freeware. Can these convert to ascii or only display an image on screen? I couldn't find an option in the man page to do it; though it shouldn't be that hard, as the ascii is just sitting there in the ps... -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 A journey of a thousand miles starts in front of your feet. 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Liability Risks of Electronic Id www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 04:13:27 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: what is "kterm"? In-Reply-To: <199811080224.NAA19250@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: > Hi > > WHen I try to read Avi's last few posts (on a unix machine), I get this error > message: > > > ---Executing: kterm > sh: kterm: not found > Command failed: kterm -geometry +0+0 -e more /tmp/mm.a19218 /dev/null > > > I don't get to read the posts, and I don't even know why! My guess it is something similar to an xterm. At least the command line parameters fit. Try 'man kterm' to see if it exists. What UNIX program are you using to read mail? Cheers, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 04:18:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Tables in HV In-Reply-To: <199811080140.MAA18588@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: Ý
 example snipped¨

> It might be fun to write a script to convert html style tables into
> the above ascii kind, to automate this process. Yes, that would
> definitely be fun!

I found a perl script once that did just that. The results weren't too
good, so I never looked further at it. However, it probably could be made
useful with a little tweaking. I can probably dig it up if anyone wants
it.

> PS another method is to write a utility that creates an image based on
> the html table - I only meantion this silly idea because this is how
> latex2html (perl script) actually creates html tables (for various
> reasons.

That's how Word97 handles difficult tables too. A rather wasteful way I
think.


Regards,

Laust

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Hi Laust,

> > ---Executing: kterm
> > sh: kterm: not found
> > Command failed:  kterm -geometry +0+0  -e more /tmp/mm.a19218 /dev/null

> My guess it is something similar to an xterm. At least the command line
> parameters fit.
Makes sense.

> Try 'man kterm' to see if it exists.
Nope.  Um, perhaps I could just alias kterm to xterm?

> What UNIX program are you using to read mail?
elm

Thanks, Laust.

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                     starts in front of your feet.
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Subject:      Fluffy tripp

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          starts wit da foist step.

I agree with not your wording way,
but will defend to the death
yor rite to way it.

Tanks buddy....wouldn't have it any udder way.
Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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> When I try to read Avi's last few posts (on a unix machine),

> Ý...¨
> I have also got it from  a Japanese (I gather) poster some time ago.

I noticed that Avi has been posting using charset=ISO-2022-JP (Japanese)...
although of course the actual text is in English. Presumably the ISO-2022-JP
is kicking off kterm (k stands for kanji, I believe).

> Nope.  Um, perhaps I could just alias kterm to xterm?


That should work, depending on what you mean by "alias". At worst, create a
symbolic link named kterm pointing to xterm.

- Joe



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> When I try to read Avi's last few posts (on a unix =
machine),


> Ý...¨


> I have also got it from  a Japanese (I gather) poster =
some time=20
ago.


 


I noticed that Avi has been =
posting using=20
charset=3DISO-2022-JP (Japanese)... although of course the actual text =
is in=20
English. Presumably the ISO-2022-JP is kicking off kterm (k stands for =
kanji, I=20
believe).


 


> Nope.  Um, perhaps I could just alias kterm to =
xterm?


 


That should work, depending =
on what you=20
mean by "alias". At worst, create a symbolic link named kterm =
pointing=20
to xterm.


 


- Joe


 


 


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> From: Russell Hemery 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: CASIO BOSS TO 200LX
> Date: Saturday, November 07, 1998 6:47 PM
>
> Hi Rony
>
> I did this conversion a couple of years ago...  Email me direct with your
> queries and I'll try to help..  I went from Casio SF9000 to 200LX.
>
> Russell

I also have several years worth of Casio Boss files that I would like to
convert to 200LX format.  I tried a comma delimited format but had too many
errors to make it worthwhile.  If you have a better way, I'd sure be
interested.

Thanks
Ted Brown

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > >convert a generic postscript file into txt?
> >
> > Get GhostScript, or preferably, GhostView. Superb freeware.
> Can these convert to ascii or only display an image on screen?
>
> I couldn't find an option in the man page to do it; though it shouldn't
> be that hard, as the ascii is just sitting there in the ps...

Hello,

The sh script 'ps2ascii' should be part of your ghostscript
disrtibution.  Ghostview is what you want if you want to
display the document on screen.

HTH,
ERic

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I tried it but it just beeps.  Shouldn't the reverse video around the word "Filer" disappear if Filer is closed?


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Sent:   Saturday, November 07, 1998 10:05 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Terminate Filer?

As Al so "properly" wrote, Filer must be open, then switch to Appmgr
(&...more) and then use the CLOSE functionkey when you are pointing at
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I tried it but it just beeps.  Shouldn't the reverse video around the word "Filer" disappear if Filer is closed?


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As Al so "properly" wrote, Filer must be open, then switch to Appmgr
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 00:58:23 -0600
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              al chin 
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Yeah, but yu wil also notice the mem usage
also increase.

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 > Hi
 >
 > WHen I try to read Avi's last few posts (on a unix machine), I get this error
 > message:
 >
 > ---Executing: kterm
 > sh: kterm: not found
 > Command failed:  kterm -geometry +0+0  -e more /tmp/mm.a19218 /dev/null
 >
 > I don't get to read the posts, and I don't even know why! 
 >
 > I have also got it from  a Japanese (I gather) poster some time ago.

Bingo! That is the clue. Joe Barrera also pointed out that
my posts come out encoded for Japanese (kanji - kterm?).
I was using PE which was setup for Japanese. I just turned
it off. Sorry!

If yiu really really ask, I'll repost my latest and
greatest posts ... Nah! Al will kick my ass out of
here...

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:03:54 +0100
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hi all,

it seems that my trusty 200lx is truly sick. something
met "battery circuitry". many thanks to mr. longden loo
and others who tried to help. it works with the ac
adapter though.

now i'm looking for a replacement. coming the other day
in a local computer shop (that means in holland) i
found a couple of omnigo's 700lx on sale, for as much
as us$ 200.-. i'd buy one (or all) but i don't know if
it has the same functionality as the 200 at least. i
don't need gsm (cellular) data transfer and i'd like to
get rid of the horrible nokia dock, maybe move
everything in a spare 200lx case.

has anybody experience with the 700lx? and what's the
story about that second pc card connector inside?

regards
nick calceanu

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:52:14 +0100
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Hi Kym,

maybe I didn't read all the answers you got.

Here is my standard answer from some weeks ago:

Download and install 'Transfile Win 200' from Yellow Computing on
your
PC. It's freeware by HP (!); you can find it on a HP palmtop page or
on S.U.P.E.R (don't remember exactly; I got it from an HP page).

It communicates with Filer and you can see the HP200 drives on your
PC.
(The HP serial cable is a 'Null-Modem' cable for direct PC/PC
connection
so don't add another 'Null-Modem' to that.)

Hermann

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>
>
> Hello again everyone. =)  I have a question about how to hook
> my 200LX to my desktop pc.  I have a serial cable that came
> with it but what software do I use to make them talk to each
> other? =)
>
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Hi Kym,

> I've read that you can terminate filer in the
> application manager to gain more memory.  How
> do you do this?

Sooner or later you may be using MOREEXM.COM which allows - as the
name says - to install more exm applications. I use the Alt-&... keys
to activate it. Then it shows a list of the running EXMs, and you can
close all or any of them individually. That means: especially Filer
can be removed - hit Filer key twice to start it again.

Two other tips may be useful:

If you want to gain memory and you have startet an application using
Appl Mgr (&...), Appl Mgr will stay in memory; call it again and hit
ESC - this will remove it from memory.

You can use F11 anf F12 as well as Alt F11, Ctrl F11,... as hot keys
for EXMs; don't care about the error msg when you set it up in the
Appl-Mgr setup menu.
F11 is Fn1 and F12 is Fn2 on the palmtop (Lx200).

Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 07:54:13 -0300
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HI!

I need to make a lot of chemical formula documents.
Are there any word processor available for this propose?
(on the HP 200LX , of course!!!)

TIA.
Pablo KIM

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In a message dated 11/8/98 6:19:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
hanacom@feedback.net.ar writes:

> I need to make a lot of chemical formula documents.
>  Are there any word processor available for this propose?
>  (on the HP 200LX , of course!!!)
>

I wish there were!!!!!  I would love to have something like that for my 200LX.

Mark

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 04:22:34 -0800
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              Kym Carleton 
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Hi all. =)  I noticed when launching an application from
HDM, I can select the video mode (b&w, dithered, etc.)
that the program will launch in as well as the resolution
such as 80x25.  Is there a way to launch programs from
application manager or from dos with a specific video
mode?  Thanks! =)

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Yeah, wit the DOS MODE command.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:20:38 -0600
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              al chin 
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There was at least one that I knew of 10 years ago.
Look in the tech list that some one posted here a
kouple days ago (yesterday) where dey got tech and
DOS pgms.   I take it that wp5 don't do it?

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:51:15 -0500
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> I have some html pages that I whant to read on my hp200lx.
> But when I start up hv it turns out that HV makes the tables bigger
> than it have to.
> This makes the "Lotus-123 like" data wrap and thus being unreadable.
>
> I would like to set the tables in HV to a width of 6 characters wich
> would give me the 6 columns per row that I whant.
> Is this achivable? Changing the font did not help.

HV's support for tables is very limited.  The columns are not
adjustable.  And HV won't handle nested tables.  That is the best that
can be done for the little program that HV is.


Stan

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> I wonder if they were being clever with Sans + Disk meaning without =
disk. 

Could be.  Or, maybe, SAND + disk because silicon is made out of sand
and flash memory chips are made out of silicon.

Or maybe they just wanted to change the least amount of letters as
possible and changing the U to a I did not sound right. 


Stan

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> Date:    Sun, 8 Nov 1998 00:58:45 +1300
> From:    Stefan Lombaard 
> Subject: PostScript to text converter
>
> Does anyone know of a program that would convert a generic postscript file
> into txt? I have some postscript files that I would like to convert to txt
> files that can be read on the 200LX.
>
> I would appreciate any advice,
> Stefan Lombaard

I have not seen such a beast.  Ghostscript has something like that,
as I recall, but I don't know how good it is.  I do not recall seeing
an LX-friendly version of gs.

On the other side, what about text->PS?  I have something I grabbed
off the net, but it doesn't work quite right.  What would be really
great is to find a way to talk to a serial PS printer as an LX
printer.  Any ideas here?

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:27:31 -0800
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Subject:      Re: ???  Chemical formula word processing
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On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:

> I need to make a lot of chemical formula documents.
> Are there any word processor available for this propose?
> (on the HP 200LX , of course!!!)
Word Perfect 5.1 would work. It has a fair equation editor.  Or you could
get a does version of TEX.



Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:40:34 -0800
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On Sun, 8 Nov 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> get a does version of TEX.
DOS , I really meant DOS.

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
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Date- Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:43:38 -0600
From- Orin Keplinger 
To- MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Propriety & How do I post?


Dear Al:

    ...I would like to post a Super Deal that is currently going on. I
just found out about it yesterday, 11-7-98, but discovered I was late
in the game...

    Office Depot is currently selling the Syjet 1.5 gig
Removable Drive for $$ 99.00. I have had one for about 3
weeks. They had dropped the price to $ 199.00 at that time.
I had good success with it and wanted to buy another so I
could swap big files without tying up my main hard drives
with big files. I am using an Adaptec 1480 PCMCIA SCSI card
in my laptop. The drives being sold by Office Depot are SCSI

with a parallel port option included. I have fired up both
drives with my scanner and everything works fine.

    When I went in to the local store on Friday, they were
sold out. I asked the counter clerk to do a district search
-here in Chicago, as you may know, we have Office Depot
districts 23 and 30. The whole Office Depot complex of 500
plus stores is set up so that one can plug in any store #,
my local stores are 218 and 298, or, on the previous screen,

select replinishment and plug in the district number, you
also need the SKU # for the item in question. They put the
SKU # on the sales tags out on the floor. The SKU for the
Syjet 1.5 is 358-866. There is also a catalog 800 # to order

by phone. Unforunately, the 1.5 gig removeable disk 3 pack,
SKU # 358-919, is still $ 199.00 as of yesterday, 11-8-98,
when I bought the last Syjet available in the Chicago Area
Office Depot stores. My guess is that there may still be
drives available in other parts of the country. This price
may have been a local district pricing error, but I think
anyone who wants some of these should check their local
stores or the catalog center 800 number ASAP.

Anyway, I wanted to post this since it is such a deal,
although as you may have heard, Syjet has, as of Nov, either
folded or gone into some kind of bankrupcy proceeding.Which
is probably why Office Depot has lowered this price.
Although, the price for the SparqDrive, the Syquest 1.0 gig
unit, is still $199.00. Beats me.


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On 11-07 01:17pm, the following was written:

> After you set all your registers enter AT&W0 to write it to memory. You
> can review the setup by sending AT&V, which shows both the 0 and 1
> memory pages. ATZ will use the current page which is usually 0 but you
> can force it to use the second page by AT&Y1 I think, I'm not at my desk
> so I'm not positive about last command Jeff. If you want another command
> set to use set all your commands/registers and then issue a AT&W1 to
> write it to the other memory page. There are also 4 places for storing
> phone numbers. You'll see all this when you issue the AT&V command.

Cool!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:16:00 +0100
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              Dejan Radic 
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I've done some tests  and here are the
results:

download with NEWS/LX   1100cps
  upload with POST/LX    920cps
download with POST/LX    570cps
download with NETTAMER  1620cps

I used a 14400 modem which has
protocols for hardware compression. My
palmtop HP200LX is a single speed. The
subject of the test was a picture in
JPG. First I downloaded it from a news
group, then I sent it to myself (to
another e-mail address), then I
downloaded it, first with POST/LX,
then with NETTAMER. After that, I
downloaded the same picture several
times, with POST/LX and NETTAMER,
alternately. I also changed the speed
of comunication between the computer
and the modem, from 115200 to 9600bps
in WWW.CFG.

The size of the encoded file is 87500
bytes, and the size of the decoded
file is 63100 bytes. The average time
of downloading with POST/LX is 2:33,
and with NETTAMER 0:54. The time
changed significantly only when I used
(in WWW.CFG) the speed of 9600 and
above. Modem-to-modem speed was
14400bps in both programmes.

For the time being, I read my mail by
downloading it with the NETTAMER, I
convert it with a simple programme
writen in TurboPascal and I read it
with POST/LX. I would like to hear
from you about your experiences.
Obviously, I did something wrong,
because surfing with HV is pretty
fast.

The POST/LX is a mighty polished
programme, but I like the speed, too.



Dejan Radic
dradic@eunet.yu
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:14:47 +0100
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I think it's great if David can put the whole PTP article on his website.
I had some difficulty understanding a few things in it, so I could add =
some
info  that hopefully makes it easier for the next person. Who knows, =
someone
else might be as thick as me... :-)

Goran..

goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se

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On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Rod Whitby wrote:

> Can you send the information to David S. so he can put a step-by-step
> in the Networking FAQ ?
> Also can you send a step-by-step to the list ?  I'm interested, cause
> I use ethernet for TCP/IP exclusively, but want to have the files on
> hand in case I am ever forced to connect to Windows directly.

Actually, Hal Goldstein gave me permission to post the article from the
Jan/Feb 1997 issue of the Palmtop Paper to my website.  This is the
article discussing how to use the Accton card with all sorts of networks.
As soon as I get a chance, I'll post that to the site, and refer to the
address in the networking FAQ.

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Anyone installed ELKS linux, or MINIX on their HP xxxLX palmtop, and
have some web sites they know of relating to the topic?

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:33:13 -0800
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In teresting speed comparisons.

I have two points:

1. What speed did you set NetTamer to? I believe you said
9600 for Post/LX (really for WWW/LX), but I did not see the
speed for NetTamer.

2. How many times did you do each test? Was there a
variation? Were the tests done at the same time? My
question is because the Internet is not at all a perfect
system, and logging in at one time is different from
another. Downloading a file - especially one that comes in
more than one packet - would mean that packets travel
independently over Internet to arrive at the destination.
Any one route can take an inordinate amount of time for
local reasons (that one router is busy or whatever) but
since it is one packet of several, the message is not
complete until all packets arrived.

No client program in the world can affect what is going on
along the route, Certainly not the two programs you
mentioned, but the results may vary wildly. Just quoting
these numbers may be misleading, or not, depending. IOW the
tests have to be quite extensive or completely closed and
unaffected by any networking.

Probably more interesting would be the same test using One
palmtop and one linux server and nothing else connected to
that system. Now you will be comparing the code, not many
other variables, over which you have no control, and
neither do the programs.

Despite the shortcomings of the tests which affect the
reliability of the numbers (and conclusion) I think these
are very interesting tests! Thanks for conducting them.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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 > I've done some tests  and here are the
 > results:
 >
 > download with NEWS/LX   1100cps
 >   upload with POST/LX    920cps
 > download with POST/LX    570cps
 > download with NETTAMER  1620cps
 >
 > I used a 14400 modem which has
 > protocols for hardware compression. My
 > palmtop HP200LX is a single speed. The
 > subject of the test was a picture in
 > JPG. First I downloaded it from a news
 > group, then I sent it to myself (to
 > another e-mail address), then I
 > downloaded it, first with POST/LX,
 > then with NETTAMER. After that, I
 > downloaded the same picture several
 > times, with POST/LX and NETTAMER,
 > alternately. I also changed the speed
 > of comunication between the computer
 > and the modem, from 115200 to 9600bps
 > in WWW.CFG.
 >
 > The size of the encoded file is 87500
 > bytes, and the size of the decoded
 > file is 63100 bytes. The average time
 > of downloading with POST/LX is 2:33,
 > and with NETTAMER 0:54. The time
 > changed significantly only when I used
 > (in WWW.CFG) the speed of 9600 and
 > above. Modem-to-modem speed was
 > 14400bps in both programmes.
 >
 > For the time being, I read my mail by
 > downloading it with the NETTAMER, I
 > convert it with a simple programme
 > writen in TurboPascal and I read it
 > with POST/LX. I would like to hear
 > from you about your experiences.
 > Obviously, I did something wrong,
 > because surfing with HV is pretty
 > fast.
 >
 > The POST/LX is a mighty polished
 > programme, but I like the speed, too.
 >
 > Dejan Radic
 > dradic@eunet.yu
 > Belgrade
 > Yugoslavia
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> I tried it but it just beeps.  Shouldn't the reverse video around the word "Filer" disappear if Filer is closed?
>
> As Al so "properly" wrote, Filer must be open, then switch to Appmgr
> (&...more) and then use the CLOSE functionkey when you are pointing at
> Filer.
>

I probably meant QUIT key.

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Hi all

Does anyone on the list know of a way to convert between these two formats?

TIA

Russell

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On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> I tried it but it just beeps.  Shouldn't the reverse video around the
> word "Filer" disappear if Filer is closed?

You also have to apply the "Close Filer" patch to be able to shut it down.
There's a program on SUPER which will do it, or you can follow the
instructions in the FAQ.  Basically, you just have to edit a file with
DEBUG and change a byte or two.

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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:48:27 GMT
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hanacom@feedback.net.ar said:
>
> I need to make a lot of chemical formula documents.
> Are there any word processor available for this propose?
> (on the HP 200LX , of course!!!)


Perhaps the equation editor in WordPerfect 5.1 could do this?

Ted

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I read some where on the net last week that Syquest was going to file
bankruptcy...

-----Original Message-----
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    Office Depot is currently selling the Syjet 1.5 gig
Removable Drive for $$ 99.00. I have had one for about 3
weeks. They had dropped the price to $ 199.00 at that time.

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DOS mode command
HPLX Mono8025 command
and Super Site zoom program

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Video Mode

Hi all. =)  I noticed when launching an application from
HDM, I can select the video mode (b&w, dithered, etc.)
that the program will launch in as well as the resolution
such as 80x25.  Is there a way to launch programs from
application manager or from dos with a specific video
mode?  Thanks! =)

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              Yujin Nagasawa 
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The article in the following web page says,
someone is running a Linux (emulator?)
on the XT emulator for Psion. Does this
mean we can run samething on our 200LXs?

http://5alive.psionking.com/Archives/Oct26.htm

------------
Yujin Nagasawa

State University of New York at Stony Brook

ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
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I know ELKS linux is available, and also MINIX on the 200LX, but I
havent seen any good pages

Yujin Nagasawa wrote:

> The article in the following web page says,
> someone is running a Linux (emulator?)
> on the XT emulator for Psion. Does this
> mean we can run samething on our 200LXs?
>
> http://5alive.psionking.com/Archives/Oct26.htm
>
> ------------
> Yujin Nagasawa
>
> State University of New York at Stony Brook
>
> ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu
> QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp
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** Proprietary **

Dear all,
>start of RANT

I just want to say that I'm grateful for any information that helps me get =
more out of my LX or anything that gives me a laugh to lighten up the very =
serious world we live in. I know that the list is mostly intende to be =
what it is; a mine of information for the LX. I find it a shame that some =
people don't appear to be able to take their serious heads off, even for a =
few minutes. Have some of you forgotten how good it is to laugh?

Having also run foul of the "censor" function carried out by members of =
the list with respect to a supposedly sexist attempt at humour (which was, =
by the way tested without problems on several females here in Germany - a =
country not renowned for ist humour), I would like to offer Al my support =
in this matter. BTW., I also recieved mail from several ladies who found =
the article very amusing.

Different people have (very) different deffinitions of humour - let's be a =
little more tollerant, please.=20

Any form of humour is, for me anyway, better than the unneding discussions =
about Bill Clinton's sexual exploits or American law.... which permanently =
appear on the list and which I also tolerate without resorting to =
derrogatory comments.

On the subject of Al's spelling, maybe the members of the list who've =
attacked him should consider how the American way of spelling English =
words could annoy people who grew up with the "original"! It's what you =
say that counts, not how you say it!

>END OF RANT

Phil



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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:58:58 +1000
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I have a spreadsheet (product price list) that I can source in Excel 97 or
TAB delimited format. The problem is this ...

1. Lotus 123 conversion generates a file that is 1.8Mb. Will not work of
course with or without emm200 etc... Just beeps, burps and dies.

2. GDB database does not seem to load records on demand / queue data (as
far as i can tell) so it also experiences this memory constraint issue
(file is of similar size). GDBLOAD and GDBIO generate partial files only,
they are unable to allocate the required memory for the conversion beep,
burp and die. I did manage to get GDBIO to generate 4 files. The GDB
database seems to have an approx. 5,000 record limit is this the case?
Multiple files are not convenient given load time and keystrokes etc...

3. I wrote a little application using a 4gl development (old) product
called Clarion. This worked but the data file once converted was 4.5mb.
Speed was ok but is way too big !

4. The TAB delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best to
manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key search
just a random string search.

HELP !!!

If anyone has actually tried something similar I long to here your
experience as I need a solution quickly. I am trying to locate a C compiler
called Power C by MIX Software that has a tiny foot print and a btree based
database library which should fit nicely on the 200LX/5MB Ace Flash. If I
write a very simple memory optimised generic CSV/TLD file browser would
anyone be interested in a copy (freeware of course) or does one already
exist ?

Ta

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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Vaughn Cox wrote:
> I am trying to locate a C compiler
> called Power C by MIX Software that has a tiny foot print and a btree bas=
ed

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   high-performance software with superb documentation, all for less than
   the price of most C books alone. It's your fast route to fast programs
   without the fast bucks.
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   The quality of the Power C documentation makes it easier to learn C.
   The manuals (if any) that accompany our competitor's products are
   terse at best. They contain little or no information about C, and very
   few examples. In contrast, the Power C book includes a step-by-step
   tutorial and is chock-full of example programs. Many of our customers
   say that it's the best C book they've ever used.
  Technical Specifications
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Phil WHORTON wrote:

> ** Proprietary **
>
> On the subject of Al's spelling, maybe the members of the list
> who've attacked him should consider how the American way of
> spelling English words could annoy people who grew up with the
> "original"! It's what you say that counts, not how you say it!


First, you might try using word wrap.  Second, I think you're
stretching things to characterize the comments on al's spelling
as attacks.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Nick,

Living in Holland too - which shop you are referring to in
which place ? Looking for 2dn LX for a while. Maybe time is
there ....

TIA

Harry Wellner

> hi all,
>
> it seems that my trusty 200lx is truly sick. something
> met "battery circuitry". many thanks to mr. longden loo
> and others who tried to help. it works with the ac
> adapter though.
>
> now i'm looking for a replacement. coming the other day
> in a local computer shop (that means in holland) i
> found a couple of omnigo's 700lx on sale, for as much
> as us$ 200.-. i'd buy one (or all) but i don't know if
> it has the same functionality as the 200 at least. i
> don't need gsm (cellular) data transfer and i'd like to
> get rid of the horrible nokia dock, maybe move
> everything in a spare 200lx case.
>
> has anybody experience with the 700lx? and what's the
> story about that second pc card connector inside?
>
> regards
> nick calceanu
>
> xxxnican@mail.dotcom.fr (please remove xxx_
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Chiwrite or Chiwriter is a math/chemical editing word processing package.
The dos version is no longer sold, but you might get a copy by searching
online.
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Kym Carleton wrote:
> Hello again everyone. =)  I have a question about how to hook
> my 200LX to my desktop pc.  I have a serial cable that came
> with it but what software do I use to make them talk to each
> other? =)

There is, of course, a connectivity pack made by HP itself. You can buy
this from thaddeus (www.thaddeus.com).  But it costs quit a bit, and is a
DOS proram.

Pumatech sells a sync package, which is more for synching PIM from the LX
to desktop.  It goes for $70, and is at http://www.pumatech.com/hp_fam.html

Freebies file transfer programs are: Transfile 200, Laplink on the 200lx,
and zip.

Transfile, as far as I know, is not on SUPER.  Get it at:
ftp://hpcvbbs.cv.external.hp.com/dist/hp200lx/backup/tf103.exe

(Link appears to be broken...  I'll work on finding the right link.)
Note:  Transfile does not work with IR setups because it can't go to 115200...

You can also use LapLink, on the palmtop, with Win 3.1 or win 95 (in a
limited way), but not in winNT.  It takes some work arounds in Win95.  See
http://palmtop.net/~jorgen/w95.htm  (In fact, look over all the tips here:
http://palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm)

And lastly, Zip-- a DOS only, hard to configure tranfer that is fast and
does high speed.  Find it at:
ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/zip21.zip

One more thing.  You may not realize, but there are Windows versions of the
APPT and PHONE apps that look much like the analogous LX PIM apps, and can
read and write out LX compatible files.  You can get this at
www.thaddeus.com or at my site (below) in the files section.

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You really shouldn't do this:
-----------------------------
Because it shouldn't work.  The purpose of the backup (Lithium) battery is
to take over if the main batteries die.  So the backup lithium should take
over and the machine should stay locked up.  If it DOES fix your lockup,
it's probably because your backup lithium is already so nearly dead that it
can't keep the machine alive.

Of course you can pull the backup lithium AS WELL - that'll work!

Or, if you're so locked up that you can't even turn the machine off,
running the whole machine (not just the RAM) from the lithium will soon
kill it and it'll be like you have no batteries in at all.

A tip:
------
I could never remember the cold-boot key sequence either.  So I have just
taken one of those fine felt-tip pens for writing on transparencies and
written CTRL-LEFTSHIFT-ON inside the battery cover.  Now when I get to that
desperate point of pulling the batteries I'll have the solution to hand.

best regds
jez

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Apologies in advance, but I just received this.
Remembering recent threads it seemed appropriate:

 ****************

I often wondered what gender computers should be addressed.  To answer that
question, I set up two groups of computer experts.  The first was comprised
of women, and the second of men.  Each group was asked to recommend whether
computers should be referred to in the feminine gender, or the masculine
gender.  They were asked to give 4 reasons for their recommendation.

The group of women reported that the computers should be referred to
in the masculine gender because:

1. In order to get their attention, you have to turn them on.
2. They have a lot of data, but are still clueless.
3. They are supposed to help you solve problems, but half the time
they are the problem.
4. As soon as you commit to one, you realize that, if you had waited
a little longer you could have had a better model.

The men, on the other hand concluded that computers should be
referred to in the feminine gender because:

1. No one but the Creator understands their internal logic.
2. The native language they use to communicate with other computers is
incomprehensible to everyone else.
3. Even your smallest mistakes are stored in long-term memory for
later retrieval.
4. As soon as you make a commitment to one, you find yourself
spending half your paycheck on accessories for it.

 ******************

Sorry, but I liked it and I could relate most of the reasons to some recent
thread on this list!
Jez

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:07:13 -0600
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Your explanations below are a great summary of the available options for
communcations with the 200LX.  If you don't mind, I want to point out
a couple of things that might mislead the novice:

> There is, of course, a connectivity pack made by HP itself. You can buy
> this from thaddeus (www.thaddeus.com).  But it costs quit a bit, and is a
> DOS proram.

Even though it is a DOS-based program,  I have used and continue to use
it on Windows platforms successfully: Win 3.1, 95, 98, NT 3.51 and 4.0.
Another benefit this option has is the ability to run many of the sys
mgr apps on your desktop, and to convert/merge data files to and from
your palmtop.

> And lastly, Zip-- a DOS only, hard to configure tranfer
that is fast and > does high speed.  Find it at: >
ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/zip21.zip

Same comment applies - even though ZIP is DOS-based, it runs under all
the Windows platforms.

> One more thing.  You may not realize, but there are Windows versions of the
> APPT and PHONE apps that look much like the analogous LX PIM apps, and can
> read and write out LX compatible files.  You can get this at
> www.thaddeus.com or at my site (below) in the files section.

Unless something has changed, one needs to be warned that if you have
modified your phone book structure (as I have to include e-mail addresses),
then the Window version described above won't work.  If I'm wrong on this
point, PLEASE inform me!  I'd love to be wrong!

-Chris


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Jez,   Thanks for the tip....I will do that too because I have frantically
searched for the manual (and the right page!) when I needed the info!

Cathy


>  I could never remember the cold-boot key sequence either.  So I have just
>  taken one of those fine felt-tip pens for writing on transparencies and
>  written CTRL-LEFTSHIFT-ON inside the battery cover.  Now when I get to that
>  desperate point of pulling the batteries I'll have the solution to hand.
>

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Chris Lott
What are the specific names of aps that run under
DOS and Win x?  Do they actually run databases
or just transfer files from LX to the desktop?

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Oops...spelling errors, huh?....I noticed six in yours Phil!   Why are we
worrying about this and go on with our topic.   Enough.   I enjoy Al's notes
but if you don't...don't read his "mail".

Cathy

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:45:23 -0600
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I have Clarion, but I can't get it to run on my HP.  Did you do
anything special?

> I have a spreadsheet (product price list) that I can source in Excel 97 =
or
> TAB delimited format. The problem is this ...
>
> 1. Lotus 123 conversion generates a file that is 1.8Mb. Will not work =
of
> course with or without emm200 etc... Just beeps, burps and dies.
>
> 2. GDB database does not seem to load records on demand / queue data =
(as
> far as i can tell) so it also experiences this memory constraint issue
> (file is of similar size). GDBLOAD and GDBIO generate partial files =
only,
> they are unable to allocate the required memory for the conversion =
beep,
> burp and die. I did manage to get GDBIO to generate 4 files. The GDB
> database seems to have an approx. 5,000 record limit is this the case?
> Multiple files are not convenient given load time and keystrokes etc...
>
> 3. I wrote a little application using a 4gl development (old) product
> called Clarion. This worked but the data file once converted was 4.5mb.
> Speed was ok but is way too big !
>
> 4. The TAB delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best =
to
> manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key =
search
> just a random string search.
>
> HELP !!!
>
> If anyone has actually tried something similar I long to here your
> experience as I need a solution quickly. I am trying to locate a C =
compiler
> called Power C by MIX Software that has a tiny foot print and a btree =
based
> database library which should fit nicely on the 200LX/5MB Ace Flash. If =
I
> write a very simple memory optimised generic CSV/TLD file browser would
> anyone be interested in a copy (freeware of course) or does one already
> exist ?
>
> Ta
>
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> What are the specific names of aps that run under
> DOS and Win x?  Do they actually run databases
> or just transfer files from LX to the desktop?

I assume (yeah, I know) that you're referring to
the CPACK program here.  I am not aware of any
limitations.  Just to double check, I went and
ran all the built-in apps that are provided on
the desktop version with CPACK, and they all ran
just fine.  That list includes:

FILER, XLATE, APPT, PHONE, NOTE TAKER, DATABASE,
MEMO, SETUP, HPCALC, and DOS

Of course, the one I use most is FILER, as this
is how one transfers files from within the CPACK.
(Well, there is LLRA, but I long since gave up on
using that with Windows.)

If I didn't answer your question, please re-phrase
it so I can get it through my thick skull, and I'll
try again.


-Chris

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:41:45 -0500
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EVERYONE!

The most exciting find!  I was looking for a Linux that runs on the LX and
xiueir iouwj osiudhk j oiu h lksjkej -- weroiudkj  kjljk lkjowiu

http://ify.hjweklu.net/freelinx/d34290/lxunx.zip

lk f hshkshf kwejy lkj kjlehlwj jkl weoiwetj  jflskdf elujwe!!!!

In regards to what Phil Whorton wrote:

 > On the subject of Al's spelling, maybe the members of the list who've
 > attacked him should consider how the American way of spelling English
 > words could annoy people who grew up with the "original"! It's what you
 > say that counts, not how you say it!

Not how you say it?  Hmmm.

Above, I just revealed something very interesting about the 200LX that would
probably benefit and excite every person on the list.  What's that?  You
couldn't understand it?  Well, what I had to say is more important than
how I said it, right?

No matter how you slice it: intentionally bad communication is annoying...

Now for relevance:

The link to Transfile Win 200 on the hp.bbs site no longer works.  I have
put a new link on my web page.  I know that some of you are looking for it.
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Hi. Maybe this question has been asked thousands of times, but i am a
newbie . I have just bought a used hp100lx 1Mb. Can anybody tell me the
best (and less expensive) pcmcia memory card that i can plug in my
notebook, transfer some files on, and then do the same with the palmtop.
Are these cards accessed like a drive? I have absolutely no experience
with these type of cards. Another thing, i don't have the manual, and i
haven't found any tech. specs. about the comm. ports of the 100lx.
What's the max speed of the serial and Infrared ports?
Thanks to anyone who answers.

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Here is an alternate solution that might solve your problem.

@base by personics is a Lotus 123 AddIn.  It is a database manager that can
access files in DBaseIII format.  You can query very large files and only bring
the subset you are interested into 123.
They also have an option pac that allow you to build and use indexes and
multitable queries.
It was reviewed in palmtop magazine a few years back.  I have a copy but not
done anything serious with it.

*Leland*

Vaughn Cox wrote:

> I have a spreadsheet (product price list) that I can source in Excel 97 or
> TAB delimited format. The problem is this ...
>
> 1. Lotus 123 conversion generates a file that is 1.8Mb. Will not work of
> course with or without emm200 etc... Just beeps, burps and dies.
>
> 2. GDB database does not seem to load records on demand / queue data (as
> far as i can tell) so it also experiences this memory constraint issue
> (file is of similar size). GDBLOAD and GDBIO generate partial files only,
> they are unable to allocate the required memory for the conversion beep,
> burp and die. I did manage to get GDBIO to generate 4 files. The GDB
> database seems to have an approx. 5,000 record limit is this the case?
> Multiple files are not convenient given load time and keystrokes etc...
>
> 3. I wrote a little application using a 4gl development (old) product
> called Clarion. This worked but the data file once converted was 4.5mb.
> Speed was ok but is way too big !
>
> 4. The TAB delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best to
> manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key search
> just a random string search.
>
> HELP !!!
>
> If anyone has actually tried something similar I long to here your
> experience as I need a solution quickly. I am trying to locate a C compiler
> called Power C by MIX Software that has a tiny foot print and a btree based
> database library which should fit nicely on the 200LX/5MB Ace Flash. If I
> write a very simple memory optimised generic CSV/TLD file browser would
> anyone be interested in a copy (freeware of course) or does one already
> exist ?
>
> Ta
>
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> 4. The TAB delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best to
> manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key search
> just a random string search.

Actually, if you only need to do a string (case specific or not) you
could just use a file viewer?  List.com by Vern Buerg is a very popular
and fast viewer with lots of other options.  I believe he has a web
site.

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re: Win versions of the HP PIMs

> Unless something has changed, one needs to be warned that if you have
> modified your phone book structure (as I have to include e-mail addresses),
> then the Window version described above won't work.  If I'm wrong on this
> point, PLEASE inform me!  I'd love to be wrong!
>

You are not exactly wrong but ....

I have found that SOME of my general db apps will load into the PIMs
including a restaurant database and sushi database but I had to tweak
them and I'm still not sure what data causes lockups and what data is
acceptable.

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> FILER, XLATE, APPT, PHONE, NOTE TAKER, DATABASE,
> MEMO, SETUP, HPCALC, and DOS
>

And the problem with Filer is that is has a limit to the number of files
it will display and in some of my bigger desktop subdirectories, it will
not display the files I need to see.

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Hi all

Has anyone used an infrared modem with a 200lx?

I can get a small IR modem for my ericsson mobile
and wondered if anyone has used one and what s/w they
used. The modem comes with s/w for winCE and psions
but nothing for DOS or 200lx.

Any input would be nice.

Thanks

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This is exactly the reason I am looking for the original foxpro for DOS.
I have the multiuser version, but that takes up a bit too much space.
Anyway (back on track) dBASE or a clone is the easiest route to go. Foxpro
is fast, even on an LX, and gives you the flexibility to do calculations
and reports much more smoothly than with 1-2-3. You may also define subsets
and import into 1-2-3 for whatever reason.

Don't bother trying to work files this size with anything else if you want
to do serious processing, the speed (or lack thereof) will frustrate you
into doing unmentionable things to your LX!

cheers,

Paul Rasmussen

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From what I heard from shopkeepers selling computers during a recent stopover in Hong Kong, Wince machines are all over the place but the HP200LX is giing UP in price because it is getting very hard to find one. The people I spoke to said that in general they found that a lot of customers were disappointed with the current crop of Wince machines because they are not "really" computers, and there is quite a demand there for HP200's - which they cant fill...

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>Date:    Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:05:21 -0600
>From:    "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
>Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question
>
>re: unless you have FAT32 on your LX the information is not even there.

er . . . genius nodded. Unusual as it is to catch Pete in an error, it's =
not the FAT, it's the OS. Win95 (and DOS mode of Win95 - use the /v =
switch to see it) read and write the info regardless of the =
(OS-supported) FAT type. DOS through DOS 6.x won't support the system; =
it would be possible to build an application which, although running =
under DOS, could read and write the information. I can't promise that =
regular 16-bit Windows and DOS applications won't overwrite the extended =
information. The file system used in Win95 and SR-1, VFAT (Virtual FAT) =
was introduced as part of Windows for Workgroups 3.1. It relies on Win32 =
access routines to get / save the extended information. For more =
information, see Jeff Prosise's "Tutor" column in the June 25, 1996 =
(pre-FAT32) PC Magazine, on-line at =
http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/pctech/content/15/12/tu1512.001.html.
You still can't do it in regular DOS, or the existing 200LX ROM =
routines, but you _could_ write (or modify) an editor / viewer to do it.
>
>Ah ha!
>
>Thanks - guess this means I can't do this in regular DOS.  Over the =
weekend
>I'll experiment a bit 'cause I want to know if the info. 'goes away' =
then,
>when you transfer a file from a 32-bit DOS environment to a 16 bit =
machine
>and then send it back again....
>
My mail server's logical and physical names aren't the same - if this =
doesn't get posted to the list, please forward it on.

Jon

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:26:54 -0800
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Kym Carleton wrote:
>
> Hi all. =)  I feel kinda dumb asking all these questions,
> but here is another.  I was trying out HDM and was wondering
> if there is a way to run the built in applications like
> appoinment book from it or from dos?  Thanks =)
>
> ----------
>  /\_/\
> ( o o ) -= Kym =-
>  \>o
You really can't. Not they way you'd like to anyway. There is a little
do hicky that sort of runs memo, but it really just starts sysman and
then memo, with your file open in it. But it's not really a solution. I
forget the name of it - it's on SUPER.

Darren.

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On 11-09 09:41am, the following was written:

> EVERYONE!
>
> The most exciting find!  I was looking for a Linux that runs on the LX and
> xiueir iouwj osiudhk j oiu h lksjkej -- weroiudkj  kjljk lkjowiu
>
> http://ify.hjweklu.net/freelinx/d34290/lxunx.zip
>
> lk f hshkshf kwejy lkj kjlehlwj jkl weoiwetj  jflskdf elujwe!!!!

So... is the URL mentioned above real? I couldn't access it if it was :(
That's a shame.... I would love to boot some variant of Unix on my LX, even
if it wasn't functional it would be cool to show some of my technogeek
friends.

73 Jeff


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what about Paradox 2.0?
I thought that it wuz much easier to learn than
dbase and does more butter.

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Hey guy;
Ain't no best but some are better than others.
Not the size that counts, its what yu need it fer.
I would suggest a 20-48 MB type II card to start
which should go for about $100-195.  (Look for
$ per MB).  They may be even cheeper by xmas
with a 440MB coming soon.

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> What are the specific names of aps that run under
> DOS and Win x?  Do they actually run databases
> or just transfer files from LX to the desktop?

Two ques, one original.  I meant are there other
than CPACK that runs sys aps on the PC.
Re cpack, My memo doesn't work as everytime
I try it, it tells me there ain't enough memories.

Anybodies got an answer?  TIA.
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Quite a while ago I created a shopping list database (with its own shopping cart icon), which had the following fields:

Item -text
Amount - number
Price - number
Category
Details - Note
Need to buy - check box
Bought - check box

As i went through the cupboards at home I would mark the "Need to buy" check box.When I went to the supermarket I would display a subset which had the Need to buy subset checked. (This was also the first field in the database. As I bought stuff I would uncheck it and it would disappear from the list.

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At 11:41 AM 11/9/98 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:

 > So... is the URL mentioned above real? I couldn't access it if it was :(

Sorry, Jeff (and everyone else that tried to link to it).  That link was
made up.

Why? you ask.  I made it up to point out the ridiculousness of, as the
previous poster wrote, "It's what you say that counts, not how you say it."
  Although I feel that content is more important than style, nevertheless,
both count in the scheme of things.  If you can't communicate clearly, then
content is lost.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.  There is no linux for the palmtop that I
know of, and I now see that using it was a cruel parody on my part.

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DBF database files contain fixed length records that are mostly blank so
a file compression scheme is indicated. JAM and Stacker come to mind
and also Diet which will let you easily compress just a part of your disk
(eg, one subdirectory) with the penalty of about 50K TSR. You can get
a clue of what will happen by using pkzip on your 1.6 meg CSV file.
You also need an index structure as a linear search could take 30 seconds
or more. Wampum is a solid dBase "lite" clone (compiled Clipper based)
that runs in less the 450K main memory, but you may want just a dbf
browser (if you can find one that uses the dbf indexes). Below are files
on Simtel and probably www.download.com.

wampum42.zip  359K  920118  Menu-driven dBASE-compatible relational DBMS
diet145f.zip         45K  960417  Transparently compress/restore any file or
exe
dbv123.zip          44K  940406  DBF database file view/search utility, v1.23


Vaughn Cox wrote:

> I have a spreadsheet (product price list) that I can source in Excel 97 or
> TAB delimited format. The problem is this ...
>
> 1. Lotus 123 conversion generates a file that is 1.8Mb. Will not work of
> course with or without emm200 etc... Just beeps, burps and dies.x4. The TAB
> delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best to
> manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key search
> just a random string search.
>
> HELP !!!
>
> If anyone has actually tried something similar I long to here your
> experience as I need a solution quickly. I am trying to locate a C compiler
> called Power C by MIX Software that has a tiny foot print and a btree based
> database library which should fit nicely on the 200LX/5MB Ace Flash. If I
> write a very simple memory optimised generic CSV/TLD file browser would
> anyone be interested in a copy (freeware of course) or does one already
> exist ?
>
> Ta
>

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Hi All,

Some time ago, I saw ( on the HPLX list ) a DOS application for organizing
items for grocery shopping.   I have somehow misplaced the URL.


If anybody has this URL, please send it to me , off list.


Thanks,
Jon








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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, hplx wrote:

> Sorry, Jeff (and everyone else that tried to link to it).  That link was
> made up.

Bummer :(

73 Jeff

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I have a hp200lx users guide (manual) for sale.
It was from one of my old 200lx that no longer works.
Part Number F1060-90001

Asking $8.50.

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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, hplx wrote:
>
> > Sorry, Jeff (and everyone else that tried to link to it).  That link was
> > made up.
>
> Bummer :(

Someone did port Minix to the LX (more or less), and although there is no
distribution, and the port is prone to crashing, you can find more info
here:

http://www.erols.com/rld/

I still doubt the LX has enough memory to comfortably run a UNIX system.


Regards,

Laust

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Try shass.zip on super.


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Subject: Shopping


>Hi All,
>
>Some time ago, I saw ( on the HPLX list ) a DOS application for organizing
>items for grocery shopping.   I have somehow misplaced the URL.
>
>
>If anybody has this URL, please send it to me , off list.
>
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 4. The TAB delimited file is 1.63MB so it seems that it would be best =
to
> manipulate it in its original format as I do not need to index/key =
search
> just a random string search.
>
> HELP !!!
>

Browse to the S.U.P.E.R. site and look for database programs.
Try them out (I think there is one called F.EXE).

What about dbase III+ or similar ?

HP

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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> So... is the URL mentioned above real? I couldn't access it if it was
> :( That's a shame.... I would love to boot some variant of Unix on my
> LX, even if it wasn't functional it would be cool to show some of my
> technogeek friends.

Well, there's always the LX version of Minix that will boot (but crash
shortly after that).  I forget the URL.  Anybody have it handy?

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I must say thank you to all that have offered advice, thanks.

I have a solution. PALedit was recommended as a straight file viewer/editor
and does the trick satisfactorily and I am now using the data instead of
playing with it. The search was a little clumsy as it seemed to do an
incremental search which really causes problems when working on large files
and you are typing your seventh letter. So, I went looking through my old <
1985 software and found an editor called SEE.EXE, it is written by Michael
Oye back in 1982 and is perfect (small footprint) and is lightning fast.

Those that recommended a dbase/pdox solution, the dbase file converts at
2.1Mb (no indexes). I will probably decide on variable length record format
to save space and just purchase another flash card (existing is 5MB). I can
get a 40MB Type II ATA Flash for around $350 AUS is this fair?. I swapped a
Pilot III for the 200LX and have every attention of buying a flash card if
it could achieve tasks like the above.  The 5MB flash that came with it is
an Ace brand and was stacked at 10MB using stacker. I found the TSR
overhead a little rich and a little slow. So I killed it. I did see a few
messages pop up warning of data corruption using stacker and perhaps JAM
was a better solution. I can't find reference to JAM anywhere.

I am still uncertain if I should stick with the 200LX or investigate the
PSION Series 5. If anyone has owns a PSION Series 5 please share you
thoughts. I do need a mini PC or close match based on the data I need to
deal with and the vast amount of enjoyment I get from having a tinker every
so often. I like the 200LX as I can use all the tools I have collected over
the years to achieve my goals. From what I gather you have to pay around
$250 pounds to Simbian (PSION EPOC people) for a developer subscription in
order to get your hands on an SDK... Does the PSION use type II flash ?

Once again thanks for the response.

Vaughn

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Hi All,
I have an idea about a small tsr program that would display the current
battery voltages (main and backup) in that blank space in appmgr window
below the second row of icons and above the function key labels on the
right side (you know, opposite the "xxxK Free / xxxK Total" display).
Whenever you had the appmgr open and switched to it you would see the
displayed voltages. They would updated everytime you switched to appmgr or
every, say, 30 seconds.
Problem is, I'm not familar with tsr programming and therefore don't know
how to do it.
Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Owen



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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Owen Samuelson wrote:

> I have an idea about a small tsr program that would display the
> current battery voltages (main and backup) in that blank space in
> appmgr window below the second row of icons and above the function key
> labels on the right side (you know, opposite the "xxxK Free / xxxK
> Total" display). Whenever you had the appmgr open and switched to it

Buddy does this.  It displays the voltage under the memory free, and also
the current status (Battery, Adapter, or Charging) and the length of time
you've been using the unit on battery power so far.

Of course, a 50K TSR (with all the other features) may be overkill for
what you want.  

ABC/LX also does something similar: it displays the voltage overlaid on
the function-key label for F1 (since that one is almost always "Help") in
every program.  So you always know the voltage.

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Hey comport;  youse wrote:
"I made it up to point out the ridiculousness of, as the
previous poster wrote, "It's what you say that counts,
not how you say it."  Although I feel that content is more
important than style, nevertheless, both count in the
scheme of things.  If you can't communicate clearly, then
content is lost."

Yu sure learned us what ridiculousness is.   Somehows
though, I think truth of facts (whats correspond to reality)
counts a wee.

BTW: what's yor name?  I presume yu ain't ashamed of it.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:49:42 EST
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Subject:      Re: DOS file 'times' question

> >Date:    Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:05:21 -0600
> >From:    "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
> >Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question
> >
> >re: unless you have FAT32 on your LX the information is not even there.
>
> er . . . genius nodded. Unusual as it is to catch Pete in an error, it's not the FAT, it's the OS. Win95 (and DOS mode of Win95 - use the /v switch to see it) read and write the info regardless of t

> You still can't do it in regular DOS, or the existing 200LX ROM routines, but you _could_ write (or modify) an editor / viewer to do it.

Don't quite understand that statement. The extra time info is not
part of the OS, even though the OS has to understand it to display
it, it is part of the filesystem, meaning the specific way that
information is stored on the disk. I can't see any information except
the modification date under win95 and fat16 filesystem, if it is
there why isn't the OS displaying it? Are you saying that the extra
time information is NOT stored on the filesystem (disk) and is stored
somewhere else? Is it available using FAT16 as well as FAT32? You
statement is totally confusing to me, please clarify.

Pete


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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:46:07 +0100
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              Paal Rasmussen 
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True, Paradox does have more "butter" BUT butter has a lot of colesterol,
and the extra fat makes for slower execution and a limit to how large fil=
es
you can manipulate on the LX! (Nobel prize in literature forthcoming??)
Besides, Foxpro is so easy to use with its drop down menus that I would
venture that anyone knowledgeable enough to have use for a database prog =
to
manipulate megabyte size databases would catch on pretty quickly.
But - I must admit that database engines are a matter of taste, so please
don=E6t flame me if you're a Paradox fan. I've used it myself at times!


> what about Paradox 2.0?
> I thought that it wuz much easier to learn than
> dbase and does more butter.
>=20
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:59:15 EST
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Subject:      Re: ...BTW, take a look at M$ Hallowen doc 2.

> > BTW - what's up with the vague hints of doom creeping into the list?
>
> People are getting so pessimistic these days.  
>
> > First we have the mysterious "somebody is playing with CIH
> > infected or where they are...  C'mon, if anyone knows about
> > virus-contaminated software, some details would be useful.  Also a
> > note to the administrator of the site the files are from could help.
> > Now there's the M$ "halloween 2" thing, whatever that is.
>
> It's obvious what it is... Microsoft is infiltrating us and trying to
> panic us into switching to Windows CE.  We've gotten virus warnings, bug
> reports, and even worse.  Pretty soon we'll start seeing new list
> subscribers posting about how the 200LX is not year 2000 compatible.
>
> Come clean, Joe... you're a double-agent, aren't you!  
>

Thats an interesting observation since a link related to the
"Halloween" memos refers to MS's use of FUD, "Fear, Uncertinty and
Doubt" as a marketing counter attact to software threats. The
original "halloween" memo, plus comments, is posted at:

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/halloween.html

and the link to the explanation of FUD is there too. So maybe this is
a MS plot. :-)

Pete


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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:56:46 -0600
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Subject:      360LX...

Here's something people on this list might be interested in...

Someone GAVE me 360LX. They saw me with my 200LX (my constant
companion) and offered me a 360LX which they said they had only used
a couple of times, and that I would probably like (A REALLY nice gesture

their part!).

After only one day of playing around with the 360LX I gave it back and
said
No Thanks... I'll stick with my 200LX!!

I thought the screen was too shiny and was hard to read. I missed having

my application keys, and I was totally underwhelmed with WinCE.

Why couldn't HP just plug the 200LX software and DOS functionality into
a 360LX form factor (with a less shiney screen), and added some RAM and
a faster CPU? Now THAT would have been an upgrade worth looking at! : )

Meanwhile I'm sticking with my200LX!!

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:54:44 +0100
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Well, finally got a T-6 bits, cost me USD 4.50 here in Oslo. :-)

So I opened my 700LX and took some pictures.

1. Pry off the 4 rubber feet covering the screw holes.

2. Using a Torx T-6 take care not to loose any of the small screws when
unscrewing.

3. The bottom just falls off, no clips holding it.

4. Lo and behold, one can see the back of a Nokia DTP-2 card is plugged into
a slot.

5. Remove the card by pulling it backwards and a little up at the end.

6. Pry up the white pcmcia L-shaped connector.

7. Remove 4 new Torx screws.

8. Try and get the second bottom off in one piece. It hangs near the
batteries because of
the 2 clips connecting to the battery terminals. It also hangs around the 3
leds.

9. Now one can see the heart of the beast. Intel Inside! An Intel 60168 sits
there. There are a few ICs and SMD components on this side. Mine has two
patch wires.

10. Lift carefully the board up to view the underside. Lots of SMD
components. This side had 3 patch resistors soldered onto ICs! Also on small
and one large crystal. Which one to change to get a 2X 700LX?

11. I gave up now. The next step would be unlocking the two foil connectors.
This would then make the circuit board removable. I did not see how to
dismantle the screen.

I tried to add a 512KB SRAM card (originally from a Omnigo 100, now used in
my 200LX) instead of the DTP-2 card. The 700LX booted ok but the SRAM card
didn't show up anywhere as far as Filer isconcerned. I also commented out
CIC100, but no luck. I suppose somebody would have to write a driver so that
a CF card could be put there.


I also checked the DTP-2 card in my Aero. Same hw revision as my original
DTP-2 card that came with my Nokia 2110 telephone. SW revision is newer.

700LX DTP-2:

SW02.01V2
HWDP1_07

Old DTP-2:

SW02.00
HWDP1_07

This was checked in W95, Control Panel, Modems, Diagnostics, More Info.

After that I put it all together again, and the 700LX still works! Haven't
lost my touch yet. :-)

I have taken a few photos, I zipped 4 jpegs, about 157 KB. I will send them
to the SUPER site, maybe they can reside there? Else I will have to start
learning about html... Should only be interesting for Omnigo owners. I will
look into removing the Chevy fins at a later date.

Have a nice day!
Franklin
(Compaq Aero 4/33C, upgraded to 20 MB RAM, 1,4 GB HDD & WIN95)

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:43:01 -0500
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Al Chin wrote:
 > BTW: what's yor name?  I presume yu ain't ashamed of it.

Shucks, I iz a shamed.  :(  yu wood be two, al, if yor name wuz hard two
spell.

--
(Now for something really interesting)

I've received reports from one person saying that he can't unzip files at
my site.  Has anyone else had this problem?

And on another note, I uploaded a Stephen King Game to my files section.

It's called THE MIST.  It's infocom like, and fairly okay on the LX in 80
cols.  Much like Lurking Horror, for those of you familiar with it.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:28:23 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Battery Voltage Display

Hey, hey, hey that's a supercalifragelisticexpialdocious
good idea.  Perchance to speak to someone who already
has pgmed one for DOS as there are many, specifically
Jorgen (I think) who did the latest one many of us are using.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:04:23 -0700
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Mark:
  Is the manual still for sale?  I got my HP 200lx used,
and it had no manual.  I'd be glad to pay shipping etc.

Brain Kassel

 >I have a hp200lx users guide (manual) for sale.
>It was from one of my old 200lx that no longer works.
>Part Number F1060-90001

Asking $8.50.

Mark
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:26:52 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" 
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>Well, there's always the LX version of Minix that will boot (but
crash
>shortly after that).  I forget the URL.  Anybody have it handy?


http://www.erols.com/rld/

Regards........Liam

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:32:13 +1100
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This is not the "al fan- and detractor- club". It's about the lx.
It is also a very friendly and positive list.

If you *really* don't want to read someone's posts, then just don't
read them; or even killfile them. If you have comments, then state them
in a personal communication between the two of you, without bringing
the whole list into it.

                         Life is too short.

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              Travis 
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ELKS linux is for 8088 and 8086 + above, needs 512k of memory, distribution in
the works all source included. Therefore there is a palmtop version of linux,
it was made with palmtops in mind.

hplx wrote:

> At 11:41 AM 11/9/98 -0600, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>  > So... is the URL mentioned above real? I couldn't access it if it was :(
>
> Sorry, Jeff (and everyone else that tried to link to it).  That link was
> made up.
>
> Why? you ask.  I made it up to point out the ridiculousness of, as the
> previous poster wrote, "It's what you say that counts, not how you say it."
>   Although I feel that content is more important than style, nevertheless,
> both count in the scheme of things.  If you can't communicate clearly, then
> content is lost.
>
> Sorry for the misunderstanding.  There is no linux for the palmtop that I
> know of, and I now see that using it was a cruel parody on my part.
>
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:00:48 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-09 10:45:35 EST, you write:

<<  I have just bought a used hp100lx 1Mb. Can anybody tell me the
 best (and less expensive) pcmcia memory card >>

Its good that you mentioned that you have a 100LX, because the answer is
different for that than for a 200LX.  In its native state, it will NOT
recognize the ATA style flash cards which are all that are now common on the
market.  You need an older model such a the HP part.

Fortunately, there is a solution.  A driver was formerly available from Ace
which will allow a 100 to access ATA cards quite necely.  Unfortunately, Ace
is no longer in business, and I am not aware of a legitimate source for the
(copyrighted) driver.  Perchance if you go down this road some kind sole will
be able to help.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:23:34 -0500
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" 
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Yes but has anyone gotten it to work on the LX?
Rodger

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:41 PM
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>ELKS linux is for 8088 and 8086 + above, needs 512k of memory, distribution
in
>the works all source included. Therefore there is a palmtop version of
linux,
>it was made with palmtops in mind.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:55:29 -0500
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A while back someone was asking about a good mouse or trackball
for the HP/LX.  I have one I like, but didn't remember
where I got it.  Now I do, if anyone still cares.  Check it
out at http://www.questecmouse.com/MTB.HTM

It's small and very portable and even comes with a DOS driver that works
on the HP 100/200LX.  It has a standard 9 pin serial connector (DB9)
on its cable, so you can plug it in using a standard HP/LX serial cable.
This seems like a lot of cable for a small gadget that only needs
a few inches of cable, so you may want to craft your own connector.

Anyone know of someplace that sells a small HP/LX serial to DB9
converter
plug to make plugging in DB9 terminated devices less awkward?

Bill Schell
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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> Well, finally got a T-6 bits, cost me USD 4.50 here in Oslo. :-)
>
> So I opened my 700LX and took some pictures.
> I will look into removing the Chevy fins at a later date.
>
> Have a nice day!
> Franklin

Now here is a man after my own heart. Nice going Franklin. I'm very
interested in
looking at your pics as I had planned to do this also.

Tell me about the Nokia DTP card. Is it a regular PCMCIA modem with
connector for
a telephone cord?

I assume it runs GSM protocol only?

I was hoping I could plug my 16mb cf card/adapter into the spare slot
and have a
16mb 700lx with the normal slot used with my modem, that would be too
easy I guess.

Is there a place on the 200lx to plug in the pcmcia card adapter? Do
they use the same
motherboards?

Please keep us posted, especially on the "fin" removal...


--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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In a message dated 98-11-09 19:56:23 EST, you write:

<< A while back someone was asking about a good mouse or trackball
 for the HP/LX.  I have one I like, but didn't remember
 where I got it.  Now I do, if anyone still cares.  Check it
 out at http://www.questecmouse.com/MTB.HTM >>

My memory was that the Thumbalina used its own battery -- which made it ideal
for the palmtop application.  The one advertized on the website draws power
from the serial port.  Do you have the "professional," or the standard model?
does it have it own battery?  Obviously, what ever you have works, so I won't
ask that silly question.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:52:38 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Rodger N. Bird II wrote:

> Yes but has anyone gotten it to work on the LX?

and if yes, has anyone done anything useful with it, such as running an
editor, C compiler, anything?


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:53:23 -0600
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At 12:26 PM 11/9/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I thought that it wuz much easier to learn than
>dbase and does more butter.


Hey Al:

Are you trying to getting everyone on the lists all churned up over your
intentionally bad spelling?


Alan

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:58:18 -0900
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Dont have one yet so I cant tell, Im an avid linux user, a little hacking on the
kernel, could make it a nice little show off. Also hal9k linux distribution is
available, check that one out too.

"Rodger N. Bird II" wrote:

> Yes but has anyone gotten it to work on the LX?
> Rodger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
> Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:41 PM
> Subject: Re: This is it!! (was Antw: Re: Fluffy retort...
>
> >ELKS linux is for 8088 and 8086 + above, needs 512k of memory, distribution
> in
> >the works all source included. Therefore there is a palmtop version of
> linux,
> >it was made with palmtops in mind.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:40:34 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum 
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Is the ESL flame over now? I would like to switch from "Headers Only"
back to full text mode.

Mikhail


> This is not the "al fan- and detractor- club". It's about the lx.
> It is also a very friendly and positive list.
>
> If you *really* don't want to read someone's posts, then just don't
> read them; or even killfile them. If you have comments, then state them
> in a personal communication between the two of you, without bringing
> the whole list into it.

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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX

Not i to flame.
I needed a good db once and db III and Paradox
both came up.  Not knowing how to pgm either
I tried both for a few minutes, I know what kan yu
learn in a few minutes.  I started with db III then
played with paradox and found that I could learn
Paradox in a few minutes.  Which I did.  BTW:
PC File was another one that I would recomend
for newbies that is some thing lesser but great for
something around the house.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:54:50 -0600
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I didn't start the fire...

          Life is too short.

Its (even) shorter than yu think...

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I like the Cirque EasyCat Serial Mouse.  It's relatively cheap and works =
well with DOS programs. Installs any basic mouse.com program and is easy =
to carry.
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Does anyone know if there are modem/flash combo PCMCIA cards available that
will work on the HP200LX ?

Thanks

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On 11-09 10:18pm, the following was written:

> Does anyone know if there are modem/flash combo PCMCIA cards available tha
> will work on the HP200LX ?

Try www.expcomputer.com (I believe that's the right URL) and they'll be
happy to fix you up with just what you want .

73 Jeff


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Message-Id: <19981110051414.BJTF9446@Ý12.64.7.221¨>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:14:14 +0000

>I'm sitting here at work summing up my time sheet, and I was just
>wondering... is there an add-in or a solver equation or anything for the
>HP Calc application that would let me do time calculations?  Date
>calculations are handled quite nicely, but I can't find any way to do time
>calculations.  (Granted, I haven't looked at the manual, mainly because I
>don't have it at work here with me.)  I use TimeTracker/LX, but for this
>application I just want something that will quickly sum up times.  Right
>now I have to use my 48GX's time calc functions, and I'd rather do it all
>on the LX.

Well, I don't know about Solver or HP Calc, but 123 should be able to
handle the job. Maybe someone's already mentioned this, but you can
set up a simple entry screen with the start and end time (hrs and min)
and ending time in 4 cells and convert those numbers to time values using
@time then calculate the difference and display the results using @hour
and @minute.

- Longden

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Hi ti all and thanks to anyone who answered my memory question.
Now i don't remember if i read it on this group, but read somewhere that
you could find connectors that fit in the LX serial connector , inside
normal pc mouse. So i had 2 dead mice lying around somewhere and decided
to open them up. In one the was  a 6 pin connector that was too big. In
the other there was a 4 pin connector... tried to plug it in the serial
of the LX (using pins from 2 to 5) and it fits. Checked the pin layout
and soldered at the other end of the cable a female sub d 25 pin
connector with the following wiring:
LX       PC
2         2
3         3
5         7
Got hyperterminal running on my pc with serial set at 9600bps XON/XOFF
control, did the same in Datacom on the 100LX and .... it worked...
So if you need a low cost connectivity cable .... open up a dead mouse
and good luck...

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> Does anyone know if there are modem/flash combo PCMCIA cards available =
tha
> will work on the HP200LX ?
>
> Thanks
>
Thaddues has two EXP models, 4 meg w/ modem and 8 meg w/ modem and it's =
own
battery. Both have fancy fax software on built-in flash.

Darren.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:59:04 -0500
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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Comments: To: Travis 
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              1998 at 04:58:18PM -0900
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something to note about elks: it wasn't really made with palmtops in mind.
it prefers standard machines and currently dependent on the bios for i/o.

this doesn't mean it can't work on a palmtop, just that none of the
developers have spent time testing on a palmtop :¨

the work done at www.erols.com/rld will be needed (and probly expanded
upon) to get elks running on the lx...

now, does anyone know how to get an intel style flash card to work like
an ata style flash card so i can get working?? :¨  or would someone be
interested in a trade?? ;¨

--francois


On Mon, Nov 09, 1998 at 04:58:18PM -0900, Travis wrote:
> Dont have one yet so I cant tell, Im an avid linux user, a little hacking on the
> kernel, could make it a nice little show off. Also hal9k linux distribution is
> available, check that one out too.
>
> "Rodger N. Bird II" wrote:
>
> > Yes but has anyone gotten it to work on the LX?
> > Rodger
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis 
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
> > Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: This is it!! (was Antw: Re: Fluffy retort...
> >
> > >ELKS linux is for 8088 and 8086 + above, needs 512k of memory, distribution
> > in
> > >the works all source included. Therefore there is a palmtop version of
> > linux,
> > >it was made with palmtops in mind.
>
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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i'm not familiar with the pinout of the 200lx, but from this message i
gather the "really important pins" (tx, rx, ground) are side by side,
similar to the hp48 series of calculators.

what's the point?? well, before i ordered the official cable, and not
having any "spare" mice to dissect, i used the mini-4pin power leads
from junked power supplies (the type usually connecting to 3-1/2" drives)
as connectors to the calculator..

so anyone not looking to scrap a mouse might want to look at that old
planter --err-- power supply :¨

--francois

On Tue, Nov 10, 1998 at 12:16:40AM -0800, nutella party wrote:
> Hi ti all and thanks to anyone who answered my memory question.
> Now i don't remember if i read it on this group, but read somewhere that
> you could find connectors that fit in the LX serial connector , inside
> normal pc mouse. So i had 2 dead mice lying around somewhere and decided
> to open them up. In one the was  a 6 pin connector that was too big. In
> the other there was a 4 pin connector... tried to plug it in the serial
> of the LX (using pins from 2 to 5) and it fits. Checked the pin layout
> and soldered at the other end of the cable a female sub d 25 pin
> connector with the following wiring:
> LX       PC
> 2         2
> 3         3
> 5         7
> Got hyperterminal running on my pc with serial set at 9600bps XON/XOFF
> control, did the same in Datacom on the 100LX and .... it worked...
> So if you need a low cost connectivity cable .... open up a dead mouse
> and good luck...
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:58:20 +0100
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              Frans Veldman 
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At 07:00 PM 10/4/98 -0500, you wrote:

>I certainlly encourage anyone on the list who is either a ham or a scanner
>enthusiast to purchase one on the BayPac BP2M modems. Even if you aren't a
>ham you can use a scanner to at least copy Mir transmissions, you could also
>use it to recieve WEFAX (weather fax) images from NOAA & Russian weather

Can you receive NOAA weather satellites pictures on the LX? What kind of
software are you using? I have tried various packages, and most of them run
fine on a Pentium machine. But on the LX? neither of them. :-(

73,

Frans, PA3GYR

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:38:53 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
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My faithful LX has developed a hinge crack after 20 months of hard
work...

What can be done about it? I saw a lot of messages on this subject some
months ago, but I was not able to find them. I also searched the LX FAQ,
but also with no success.

Thanks,
Paulo

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:44:37 EDT
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Saw this surfing around last nite:

ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.3/simtelnet/msdos/database/grocer42.zip


Something about shopping list and coupon mgmt. No interest to me so I =
didn't
check it out.

Darren.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:44:39 EDT
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Just to advise that compack seems to work nice and I have one BIG plug =
for
it. Its only 16k. That is really small compared to the others.

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> what it is; a mine of information for the LX. I find it a shame that =
some
> people don't appear to be able to take their serious heads off, even =
for a
> few minutes. Have some of you forgotten how good it is to laugh?

Yes, it's nice with humor and a laugh- but when we today has a e-mail =
list
of which the majority of the messages are pure junk- then it's not funny
anymore!
>
> Different people have (very) different deffinitions of humour - let's =
be a
> little more tollerant, please.

Yes, but if you want humor- I am sure there are some e-mail list for it.

> On the subject of Al's spelling, maybe the members of the list who've
> attacked him should consider how the American way of spelling English
> words could annoy people who grew up with the "original"! It's what you
> say that counts, not how you say it!

If I have to try to figure out what this guy is trying to say- better
delete. A few times it's a funny thing- all the time boring!

Once this list was very good, now it has a lots of junk mail! I think
it's soon time to drop this list!

Jorgen

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I/O Data 20 MB flash/modem type II is fine
and dandy, and works like kandy.

Semper mobilis,
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Hello Friends,
i have a HP 360 LX with Windows CE 2.0 and a XircomCM-56G Credit Card =
Modem.
When i try to make a PPP connection to my ISP with an assigned IP =
adress, i
alway get a request where i have to type in an ip adress.
In the TCP/IP Configuration od the DF=DC Connection i checkt the IP =
assigned
by server box.
Are there problems wither server assigned IP Adresses in Windwos CE 2.0 =
?


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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Bernd Lommel wrote:

> Hello Friends,
> i have a HP 360 LX with Windows CE 2.0 and a XircomCM-56G Credit Card Mod=
em.
> When i try to make a PPP connection to my ISP with an assigned IP adress,=
 i
> alway get a request where i have to type in an ip adress.
> In the TCP/IP Configuration od the DF=DC Connection i checkt the IP assig=
ned
> by server box.
> Are there problems wither server assigned IP Adresses in Windwos CE 2.0 ?

Uh oh..... 

73 Jeff

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I have a similar problem and have tried  with
no success. What are next steps? (I am not worried about losing my
C: contents, by the way)

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On 11-05 02:55pm, the following was written:
>
> >  A DOS program has blanked the screen and locked on my palmtop tight!
> >
> > CTRL-ALT-DEL will not recover it.
> >
> > Anybody remember the reset sequence??
>
> 
>
> 73 Jeff
>
>     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:25:51 -0600
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If you already have a modem, Marcan can
add 4 meg to your ram, was about $60 a while back.

Vaughn Cox wrote:

> Does anyone know if there are modem/flash combo PCMCIA cards available that
> will work on the HP200LX ?
>
> Thanks
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:00:53 -0500
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Lynn,
        Could you elaborate on the problems that the 100 LX has with
ATA FLASH cards?  Speak (write?) softly, though, because I don't want mine
to hear you -- it has been using one for years, and I just tried 2 others
on it with no problem. :¬)
        Wise-guy attitude aside, if I remember correctly, the driver built
into the 100LX will correctly handle Sundisk/Sandisk cards (and, checking
the backs of my cards, they are a 1992 1.8 MB ACE DoubleCard, a 1993
IBM 15 MB, and a 1994 Epson 10 MB).  I'd like to know if the problems
you've heard about relate to manufacturer, vintage, or size.

Thanks for any information you can provide!!!
--
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:11:11 -0000
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              "D.Wood" 
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While we'e on this subject, what can i do with my not yet one month
old 200lx to stop the hinge crack problem. Is it possible to open
them up and strengthen them?

Thanks

David Wood

d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk


> My faithful LX has developed a hinge crack after 20 months of hard
> work...
>
> What can be done about it? I saw a lot of messages on this subject some
> months ago, but I was not able to find them. I also searched the LX FAQ,
> but also with no success.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:14:06 -0600
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I have a similar problem and have tried  with
no success. What are next steps? (I am not worried about losing my
C: contents, by the way)

If yu ain't worried about losing C:  Take out all the
batts. for a few hours.

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:00:46 +0100, Bernd Lommel  wrote:

Be> Hello Friends,
Be> i have a HP 360 LX with Windows CE 2.0 and a XircomCM-56G Credit Card =
Modem.
Be> When i try to make a PPP connection to my ISP with an assigned IP =
adress, i
Be> alway get a request where i have to type in an ip adress.
Be> In the TCP/IP Configuration od the DF=DC Connection i checkt the IP =
assigned
Be> by server box.
Be> Are there problems wither server assigned IP Adresses in Windwos CE =
2.0 ?
Be>
Be> B. Lommel

Hello friend,
You may get an answer, but this list is pretty much a 200LX specific
list. I don't know, but it seems that there would be a 3xx specific
list that could maybe give you a more knowledgable answer.

Bon Chance,

Paul
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> You may get an answer, but this list is pretty much a 200LX specific
> list. I don't know, but it seems that there would be a 3xx specific
> list that could maybe give you a more knowledgable answer.

Can we either:

(a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
more indicative?

(b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I personally wouldn't
mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.

-Chris Lott

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I left them out all day yesterday, put in a fresh pair today and I still
don't get anything when I try `On'.

al chin wrote:
>
> If yu ain't worried about losing C:  Take out all the
> batts. for a few hours.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:26:28 -0500, David Ness  wrote:

DN> I left them out all day yesterday, put in a fresh pair today and I =
still
DN> don't get anything when I try `On'.
DN>
DN> al chin wrote:
DN> >
DN> > If yu ain't worried about losing C:  Take out all the
DN> > batts. for a few hours.

Perhaps your keyboard connection is bad? You might take your LX apart
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:37:47 -0600
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The URL is now www.expnet.com.  They have very reliable modem/flash
cards.

David

-----Original Message-----
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On 11-09 10:18pm, the following was written:

> Does anyone know if there are modem/flash combo PCMCIA cards available
tha
> will work on the HP200LX ?

Try www.expcomputer.com (I believe that's the right URL) and they'll be
happy to fix you up with just what you want .

73 Jeff


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              Jeff Johns 
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Subject:      Re: Mir & the 200LX
Comments: To: veldman@KNOWARE.NL

On 11-10 03:58am, the following was written:

> Can you receive NOAA weather satellites pictures on the LX? What kind of
> software are you using? I have tried various packages, and most of them ru
> fine on a Pentium machine. But on the LX? neither of them. :-(

To be honest I have never tried to receive or decode the pics on the LX.
I'll play around with some of the software on the Tigertronics web site. I'm
sorry I really didn't mean to imply that you could view the WEFAX images on
the LX, I was really refering to the 1200bps AX.25 packet system onboard
Mir. I post my results about WEFAX to the list.

73 Jeff


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Subject:      Re: HP360LC and Xircom Modem
Comments: To: rclott@RO.COM

On 11-10 08:21am, the following was written:

> Can we either:
>
> (a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
> more indicative?

Good point!

> (b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I personally wouldn'
> mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.

I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?

73 Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:52:59 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Hinge crack

Don't seem like tighening the hinges would
stop a crack.   Magic glue judiciously applied
into it and griping firmly for a few minutes till
it dries may be more pragmatic.

Semper mobilis,
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Subject:      Help

Will the real James P. Grenert
please write.....

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?

Well.... I'd rather see the list stay DOS palmtop-specific, if only for
the reasons that it's pretty much the only 95/1/200LX list around, though
there are plenty of WinCE lists, and the newsgroups are dominated by
WinCE.  If I have to start sorting the list messages by hand to determine
if it's relevant to my palmtop, well... it could get tiresome.  

Those are my thoughts...

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Considering the amount of storage that many list members have, I think
that the list should maintain a narrow focus on DOS palmtop specific
subject matter. As it is, the list is a bit too fluffy. I'm not saying
to be rude to the WinCE-ers that stray in but let them know they're in
the wrong place and perhaps make suggestions on a more appropriate
venue.

my .02$


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns Ýmailto:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:24 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ HP360LC and Xircom Modem
>
>
> On 11-10 08:21am, the following was written:
>
> > Can we either:
> >
> > (a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
> > more indicative?
>
> Good point!
>
> > (b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I
> personally wouldn'
> > mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.
>
> I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?
>
> 73 Jeff
>
>
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Totally different hardware, software, user orientation.
Like a chevy owner asking question in a Miata list.
Direct them to newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
comp.sys.palmtops.

Jeff Johns wrote:

> On 11-10 08:21am, the following was written:
>
> > Can we either:
> >
> > (a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
> > more indicative?
>
> Good point!
>
> > (b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I personally wouldn'
> > mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.
>
> I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?
>
> 73 Jeff
>

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              Jeff Johns 
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Subject:      DOS/CE on list

I too prefer the DOS list, but can "get along" with almost anybody (unless
they are from another country griping about gun laws here in the US) and did
not want to segregate any particular person. I feel that if we are going to
maintain this as a DOS list that we _should_ change the name as it is
misleading to those non-DOS LX users, who post questions asking for
legitimate help then get flamed to death. What if someone with a Sharp DOS
based handheld were to ask a question, would they be flamed the same as a CE
user? Anyhow, I love my DOS LX, I do, however, feel that the name and/or
list description should be changed in order not to mislead any future list
participants.

73 Jeff


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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I feel that if we are going to maintain this as a DOS list that we
> _should_ change the name as it is misleading to those non-DOS LX
> users, who post questions asking for legitimate help then get flamed
> to death.

Heck, I think we should go with the flow and change the name of the list
to HP-Jornada-Series-200-Handheld-PC-L.  

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The 200LX and it's direct counterparts are unique - we should stay that way.
I suggest that the WinCE systems work within their own forums.

BTW I own both types of systems.

I just use the 200LX and play with my 620LX, never having accomplished
anything of value with it.




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On 11-10 08:21am, the following was written:

> Can we either:
>
> (a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
> more indicative?

Good point!

> (b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I personally wouldn'
> mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.

I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?

73 Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:57:06 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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Subject:      SCM PCMCIA Card reader at Onsale.com for $54
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Anyone looking for a desktop PCMCIA card reader? They have front-loading
SCM swap boxes at onsale. I have one similar to this and it works great.
I think this unit uses an IDE interface and may let you boot from the
flash card (mine does). It's easier and faster than transfilewin et al.
The $10 NECX cards are a lot cheaper but you have to reach around back
for it. It's a pain when you have a floor standing tower.

Here's the URL:

http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00000325/01171523.htm#ProductInfoSect
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              Jeff Johns 
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Subject:      Re: DOS/CE on list
Comments: To: david@HPLX.NET

On 11-10 10:49am, the following was written:

> Heck, I think we should go with the flow and change the name of the list
> to HP-Jornada-Series-200-Handheld-PC-L.  

Or.... we could just use the acronym HPJS2HPC-L, just to make things
simpler!

73 Jeff


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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:02:16 -0500 (EST)

Hi group-

My $.02 (or less) worth is that we should keep this a DOS palmtop list.
The CE-ers have plenty of forums, and pretty much dominate the
newsgroups.  Let's just politely tell them where to go  8-).

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:14:33 -0800
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Peniel Romanelli wrote:

> My $.02 (or less) worth is that we should keep this a DOS palmtop list.
> The CE-ers have plenty of forums, and pretty much dominate the
> newsgroups.  Let's just politely tell them where to go  8-).

Perhaps it's time I reposted the HPLX-L FAQ.  

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:10:11 -0500
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>Date:    Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:49:42 EST
>From:    "Peter W. Borders" 
>Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question
>
>> >Date:    Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:05:21 -0600
>> >From:    "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
>> >Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question
>> >
>> >re: unless you have FAT32 on your LX the information is not even =
there.
>>
>> er . . . genius nodded. Unusual as it is to catch Pete in an error, =
it's not the FAT, it's the OS. Win95 (and DOS mode of Win95 - use the /v =
switch to see it) read and write the info regardless of t
>
>> You still can't do it in regular DOS, or the existing 200LX ROM =
routines, but you _could_ write (or modify) an editor / viewer to do it.
>
>Don't quite understand that statement. The extra time info is not
>part of the OS, even though the OS has to understand it to display
>it, it is part of the filesystem, meaning the specific way that
>information is stored on the disk. I can't see any information except
>the modification date under win95 and fat16 filesystem, if it is
>there why isn't the OS displaying it? Are you saying that the extra
>time information is NOT stored on the filesystem (disk) and is stored
>somewhere else? Is it available using FAT16 as well as FAT32? You
>statement is totally confusing to me, please clarify.
>
Sorry - it is not part of FAT16 vs. FAT32, which merely defines how the =
File Allocation Table is set up (16 bits or 32 bits to specify the disk =
cluster number; allows 65,536 or 4,294,967,295 clusters on a disk hence =
the 8 GB limit with 4K clusters on FAT32). It _is_ a part of each =
directory entry, which is the same on FAT16 or FAT32. Long file names, =
as supported by Win95 under either FAT structure, use _multiple_ =
directory entries to hold the relevant data (long file name using =
Unicode, create date, access date) with a character #0F in the attribute =
byte for all the (possibly multiple) directory entries which make up a =
single long file name. The long file name entries immediately precede =
the short file name entry which DOS and pre-95 Windows can read. If you =
look at a directory with a Win95 version of Norton Utilities, etc. =
you'll be able to see the names; the create & access times aren't =
displayed but you can find them in the hex coding. For more info, see =
the article at:=20
http://premium.microsoft.com/msdn/library/sdkdoc/win95/lfn_43l9.htm as =
well as Jeff Prosise's article referenced in my previous post.

It is _possible_ (I will emphatically _not_ volunteer to do it) to write =
either:
a)     a file editor which is capable of bypassing the DOS Ý1-6¨.x =
system calls and reading from / writing directly into the directory =
structure space (like Norton Utilities, etc.) all the information of a =
long file name entry, along with the short file name information, or
b)    an interrupt handler which replaces and extends DOS file-handling =
interrupts to allow long file names in DOS. This could be done either as =
a TSR or as a command shell (like Stacker) to provide the extended =
functionality.
In either case, you'd need to be _very_ careful so as not to hose the =
directory for everything else. Unless this is of general interest to the =
list, I'm willing to move it off line for any further discussions.

Jon

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:24:16 -0500
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Or perhaps, following Ringo Starr's lead, we could call the
list `Arthur' (``What do you call your haircut, Ringo?'')

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> On 11-10 10:49am, the following was written:
>
> > Heck, I think we should go with the flow and change the name of the list
> > to HP-Jornada-Series-200-Handheld-PC-L.  
>
> Or.... we could just use the acronym HPJS2HPC-L, just to make things
> simpler!
>
> 73 Jeff
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:44:45 -0500
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... discussed? Does anyone know if the IRDA will work with the 200Lx?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:14:36 -0500
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At 08:15 AM 11/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>> I have no problem with this.... does anyone else have an opinion?
>
Well, I don't see how we could keep anyone out (or want to), since you can
freely sign-up to join this list. You don't have to actually own an
HP95/100/200LX or any other palmtop to join the list.

>Well.... I'd rather see the list stay DOS palmtop-specific, if only for
>the reasons that it's pretty much the only 95/1/200LX list around, though
>there are plenty of WinCE lists, and the newsgroups are dominated by
>WinCE.  If I have to start sorting the list messages by hand to determine
>if it's relevant to my palmtop, well... it could get tiresome.  
>
But, I agree with David here. I want this list to remain DOS
palmtop-specific. I wish there was a way for CE users to catch the fact
that this list is really for HP DOS Palmtops from the mailing list
name/address.

Owen


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:02:57 -0500
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Do you know for sure that the 200 supports HP's JetSend? (Nothing
on their Web site says so.)

Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:
>
> irda works great with 200lx, in all applications
>
> > Subject: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
> > ... discussed? Does anyone know if the IRDA will work with the 200Lx?

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:02:19 -0600
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Keep it on the list or copy me in.  One kan do
learn something.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:55:36 -0600
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Keep da list as DOS palmtop-specific, if only for
the reasons that it's pretty much the only LX
list around.  If it ain't broke, don't mess wit it.  If I
gotta start sorting the list messages by hand to
determine if it's relevant to my palmtop,
well... it could get tiresome.  

...and that's all I gotta say about that....

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:08:32 -0500
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I thought I saw some references to logging software a while back on this list,
but I can't seem to locate it.

Any references to logging software appreciated, a possible new memeber of the
list has asked me if I knew of any and I couldn't locate any that I knew
would work good on the LX.  :)

Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:14:07 -0800
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, al chin wrote:

> Keep da list as DOS palmtop-specific, if only for
> the reasons that it's pretty much the only LX
> list around.  If it ain't broke, don't mess wit it.  If I
> gotta start sorting the list messages by hand to
> determine if it's relevant to my palmtop,
> well... it could get tiresome.  
> ...and that's all I gotta say about that....

That paragraph sounds strangely familiar... 

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:22:01 -0800
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:

> I thought I saw some references to logging software a while back on
> this list, but I can't seem to locate it.
> Any references to logging software appreciated... 

I presume this is some sort of software that lumberjacks use?  

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No, I think it's for Farmers, who need to log their Hams before they
count their Eggs.

David Sargeant wrote:
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> On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:
>
> > I thought I saw some references to logging software a while back on
> > this list, but I can't seem to locate it.
> > Any references to logging software appreciated... 
>
> I presume this is some sort of software that lumberjacks use?  
>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:37:37 -0600
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On 11-10 01:08pm, the following was written:

> I thought I saw some references to logging software a while back on this l
t,
> but I can't seem to locate it.

CT will run on the LX without any problems!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:39:01 -0600
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On 11-10 01:21pm, the following was written:

> No, I think it's for Farmers, who need to log their Hams before they
> count their Eggs.

Oh Lord.... I think I see a "which came first, the chicken or the egg"
thread developing here 

73 Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:45:27 -0600
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I'll second this....

>----------
>From:  al chinÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:55 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Da list
>
>Keep da list as DOS palmtop-specific, if only for
>the reasons that it's pretty much the only LX
>list around.  If it ain't broke, don't mess wit it.  If I
>gotta start sorting the list messages by hand to
>determine if it's relevant to my palmtop,
>well... it could get tiresome.  
>
>...and that's all I gotta say about that....
>
>Semper mobilis,
>yor pal al :-) .............
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> I left them out all day yesterday, put in a fresh pair today and I still
> don't get anything when I try `On'.


Make sure they are in correctly.  Try cleaning the battery contacts on
the HP.  Replace the little backup coin cell.

And after ALL batteries are removed, PRESS and HOLD the ON key for about
a minute or so to dissipate any charge in any capacitor.

Replace the AA and then the coin cells and try ON again.  Then try:

Ctrl-LEFTshift-ON all at the same time.

If that does not work, try on ac power and you might have a bad unit.

What were you running when it died?

Good luck

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:27:37 -0500
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When there was a lot of list mail about the
hinge crack (a year ago?) I thought I could see
one starting to form on my 200LX.
Someone at that time mentioned that the problem
is (probably) caused by the latch holding the LX
shut while there is still a bit of tension in the hinge
o-ring fighting to open it a bit.  That seemed to
make sense (to me).  Whenever you move the
screen to a new position it always moves back
tiny bit when you let it go.  What I do now, when
I close my 200LX, is gently squeeze it between
my thumb and finger in the area that the crack
forms.  The idea is to force the screen, in the
area of the hinge, to close even more than it
normally does if all you do close it enough for the latch.

I don't know if this extra step that I take every time
I close it is really doing any good but I don't have
a cracked hinge (yet) and I can't see one forming.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:34:23 -0500
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Thanks for all the help. I removed both AAs *and* the backup battery,
waited for a couple of minutes and then replaced them. Things
then appeared to be ok, with the exception that I was warned that the
backup battery needed replacement. I assume it had run down while
I had the AAs out yesterday.

I replaced the backup this afternoon, and all seems ok.

Thanks to all who helped.

F. Kaufman and others wrote:
>
> 
>

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:39:38 -0500
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I agree with those that wish this List to remain focused on the 95/100/=
200LX
DOS palmtops.
If the name needs to be changed how about HP200LX?  I think most 95 and=
 100
users would
recognize that they are similar models of the same palmtop.  Also, ever=
yone
agrees that HP
probably isn't going to be bring out a new DOS palmtop so a name with 2=
00 in it
will (unfortunately)
never be out of date with the last/current version from HP.

Actually I don't think there's been enough of bother of misguided CE us=
ers to
bother changing anything.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:28:37 +0100
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An addendum to my posting:

1. The keyboard connector is seems just to be fingers pressing on the
underside of the circuit board. This is the comb seen in inside2.jpg to the
lower bottom.

2. On an ordinary DTP-2 card one plugs in a cable on the far edge sticking
out of the pcmcia slot and connect to the underside of the mobile phone.
There was no such cable internally plugged into the DTP-2 card, much to my
surprise. This means that the digital signals to the phone are coupled
through the pcmcia adapter and are one of the brown foil cables seen in the
upper parts of inside1.jpg and inside2.jpg. The other foil cable is to the
screen. Now this presents a problem as to if this second pcmcia port is an
ordinary pcmcia port or a HP hack to get the phone signals out. The
connector on the phone has 2x8 gold contacts... I saw an Italian mobile
phone hack page which had pinouts for different phones, I will try and find
them. Also I would like the pcmcia pinout standard. Anybody have it?

3. There were no free connectors or lines of pads for any internal memory
upgrade. But if one chucks out the DTP-2 card and find out what the second
pcmcia port is one has quite a bit of space. And mold a new top! That might
be a good upgrade option if 200LXs become scarce. Here in Oslo they dropped
the prices by 85 % just to get rid of the 700LX. Where they all are, I don't
know. Must probably laying around gathering dust. I don't see any Norway
based posts here.

Have a nice day!
Franklin
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              Bill Schell 
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Hi Lynn.

The Thumbelina I have doesn't have it's own battery.  I don't
use it for long periods, so I can't tell you about its affect
on HP battery life.  I have the standard model.  The 'pro'
has a PS/2 port which isn't very useful on the LX.

Bill Schell

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:37 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Hinge crack

Don't know nuthing 'bout the esoteriks of hinge
tension causing kracks.  I knows wit my coupla
LXs, I ain't got no kracks, but then again, i ain't
NEVER drops or otherwise abuses 'em neither.
Maybe its the tension (gets to everybody) or its
dropping it everyday somewhere, someway.  I
mentioned a survey betwen mens and womans
and their LXs and I don't remember no womans
saying dey got the same problems.   Hmmmmm

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yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:04:52 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: Help

Whoever got this dis problem, I hopes ya got it woiking by now.
To this list, add one.......

Don't drop yor (NiMh, Lit) batts all  the time.
The 4ft drop everyday give the ions a headache.

"Make sure they are in correctly.  Try cleaning the battery
contacts on the HP.  Replace the little backup coin cell.

And after ALL batteries are removed, PRESS and HOLD
the ON key for about a minute or so to dissipate any
charge in any capacitor.

Replace the AA and then the coin cells and try ON again.
Then try: Ctrl-LEFTshift-ON all at the same time."

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:58:35 -0800
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              "Daniel Ginsberg (remove this antispam deterrent to email me)"
              
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My 100LX developed a crack near the right hinge after a few years.
Admittedly it was dropped a few times.  Superglue multiple times did not
help, even with overnight drying, clamps, etc.  I finally bought a 200LX
second hand.  There was a barely noticible mark near the right hinge
when I bought it.  I thought it was just a slight scratch that was only
cosmetic.  But after a couple of months it gradually increased in size,
again despite Superglue (and I think epoxy), and I had not dropped or
otherwise abused it once.  Now what I do is try not to open and close it
more than absolutely necessary.  I open it in the morning at work, and
leave it open all day usually.  Sometimes that means carrying it around
open.

This is obviously not an ideal solution, and is temporary besides.  Each
time I close the case, it puts more stress on the hinge, and the crack
has gradually lengthened.  I know that many people have not had problems
with their palmtops, but many have, and usually involving the right
hinge.  Thus I think it's clear that this is an engineering problem with
the case.

Someone earlier wrote about soldering in a piece of metal to strengthen
it, but I don't see how.  Lubricating the hinge with some oil (someone
suggested trumpet oil) then glueing (someone suggested Lego glue, but I
don't know where to find such a thing) might help.  I keep hoping
someone will come up with a better fix, as glue has not worked for long
for me.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:04:00 -0800
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              DENNIS BELL 
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I am soliciting information about the methods
people are using to connect their LX's to
the internet.  I include (below) a template
for you to fill out and send to me (NOT to the list).

I will compile the responses in some useful
way and publish the results, either to the list
or to the SUPER site (or maybe there is a more
suitable place).  I will wait a week or two before
closing down this request.

Remember, send responses to: doppelbike@yahoo.com

I will respect anyone's desire to remain anonymous.

Dennis Bell
Seattle

===================================

Your name (and info)

Access through ISP or at work?

If through work, please elaborate...


or, if through ISP...

Contact info:
  ISP
  Address
  City/State/Zip
  Phone
  Email
  WWW


service offerings:
  DOS
    email
    www
    shell accounts
    home page
  Windows/Mac access also?
  other OS

telephone access:
  toll free     (extra $$)
  local dialup (how many cities)
  toll call

costs:
  setup
  monthly
  annual

Software needed for access:
  www/lx
  nettamer
  Goin' Postal
  emulator
  comm program
  other





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              Ed Padin 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DENNIS BELL Ýmailto:doppelbike@YAHOO.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:04 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Request for info for ISP FAQ
>
>
> I am soliciting information about the methods
> people are using to connect their LX's to
> the internet.  I include (below) a template
> for you to fill out and send to me (NOT to the list).
>
> I will compile the responses in some useful
> way and publish the results, either to the list
> or to the SUPER site (or maybe there is a more
> suitable place).  I will wait a week or two before
> closing down this request.
>
> Remember, send responses to: doppelbike@yahoo.com
>
> I will respect anyone's desire to remain anonymous.
>
> Dennis Bell
> Seattle
>
> ===================================
>
> Your name (and info)
Ed Padin epadin@wagweb.com

>
> Access through ISP or at work?

ISP

>
> If through work, please elaborate...
>
>
> or, if through ISP...
>
- UUnet dialup using nettamer

> Contact info:
>   ISP

UUnet
>   Address

??
>   City/State/Zip

??
>   Phone

??
>   Email

??
>   WWW
www.uu.net


>
>
> service offerings:
>   DOS
>     email
yup
>     www
yup
>     shell accounts
nope
>     home page
yup
>   Windows/Mac access also?
>   other OS
>
> telephone access:
>   toll free     (extra $$)
??

>   local dialup (how many cities)
??
>   toll call
>
> costs:
>   setup
>   monthly
>   annual
>
> Software needed for access:
>   www/lx
>   nettamer
yup
>   Goin' Postal
>   emulator
>   comm program
>   other
>
>
>
>
>
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              Ed Padin 
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DOH!!!  I always click send and
forget to exclude the list....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:11 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Request for info for ISP FAQ
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DENNIS BELL Ýmailto:doppelbike@YAHOO.COM¨
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 5:04 PM
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Request for info for ISP FAQ
> >
> >
> > I am soliciting information about the methods
> > people are using to connect their LX's to
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:11:00 -0800
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I suggest we change to one of the following names.

HP186-L
HP-INTEL-LX-L
INTEL-LX
HP-HORNET-L
HORNET-L
HP80186LX-L
80186LX-L
80186-L
HP-DOSLX-L
DOSLX-L
NO-CE-HERE-BUD-ASK-A-LIST-THAT-CARES-L

DON.


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:46:04 -0500
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Yo.... wassup.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:45:55 -0600
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Hi guy and girls;
Y'all stop being madd at me yet?   Goood.
A good name should be catchy/attractive as well
as descriptive.  I respectfully suggest: ORCIM-HPLX.
Orcim is of course MICRO spelled backwards as well
as what it (sounds) is: awesome.    BTW: This is my
seggestion for the HP LX List NAME contest.  :)

Semper mobilis,
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:36:12 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Hinge crack

Wat's up doc?  i mean Dan;
Obviously this problem disturbs yor equinimity, and no
little jerry rig fix is gonna fix it, next to replacing the top
cover. So; to end yor problem and get on with life into
the next millenium.  I would suggest yu get yor self a
brand new 64MB LX, write it off and use the old one
as backup, and spare for future parts.  Mack at T2T
will gladly help.  Oh one more thing, keep the new LX
between yu and you favorite other so it don't fall 3ft to
the floor.

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Uh... hello back =)

Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:53 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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HP and LX should remain in the list name. If a change is required, then DOS
should be added -- it is the shortest, clearest, most positive way of saying
"no Windows CE".

Obscure (HP-HORNET-LX) or cute (ORCIM) names don't communicate the intent of
the list as clearly.

- Joe

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:21:51 +0100
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              Dejan Radic 
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>> and with NETTAMER 0:54. The time
>> changed significantly only when I used
>> (in WWW.CFG) the speed of 9600 and
>> above. Modem-to-modem speed was

  Sorry, I made a big mistake. Instead of _above_ I meant to
say _below_ i.e. the downloading speeds were equalized when I
used computer-to-modem speed above 9600, and were decreasing
when I used 9600 or below.


> 1. What speed did you set NetTamer to? I believe you said
> 9600 for Post/LX (really for WWW/LX), but I did not see the
> speed for NetTamer.
>
> 2. How many times did you do each test? Was there a
> variation? Were the tests done at the same time? My


Here in Yugoslavia there is a saying: the picture tells more
than thousand words do. In this case, the table speaks for
itself (the subject of the test was a TXT file of 100000
bytes)


          program  min:sec         modem     computer
          name                     to modem  to modem
                                   speed     speed
------------------------------------------------------
  upload  POST/LX   1:23  1207cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:19   505cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:20   503cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:28   484cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:19   505cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:41  2454cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:31   476cps  14400bps   19200bps
download  POST/LX   3:54   430cps   9600bps    9600bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:27  1152cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:17   510cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:26  1165cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  POST/LX   3:16   513cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  POST/LX   1:21  1237cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NETTAMER  0:39  2580cps  14400bps  115200bps
  upload  NEWS/LX   1:03  1587cps  14400bps  115200bps
download  NEWS/LX   0:47  2128cps  14400bps  115200bps
------------------------------------------------------

I think it's impossible that the decrement of speed depends
on the density of Internet traffic. I also can't believe that
there is an outside factor which varies from time to time,
but only to the detriment of POST/LX and only when
downloading. Besides,  NEWS/LX shows a good speed, so I
didn't do much testing with it. During the whole test, the
downloading speed with POST/LX never passed the limit of
520cps. How come?


Dejan Radic
dradic@eunet.yu
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:43:49 -0500
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Back on the subject of 3D action games and how they perform on the palmtop,
I'd like to recommend a golden oldie that really impressed me:

LineWars is a 3-D first-person space shooter with the most basic of plots
-- fly around in space and blow up an endless supply of bad guys before you
get blown up. Actually, LineWars was written to be a 2-person dogfight over
modems or a serial cable, but if you can't find someone to play with, the
Single Mode is just fine.

The program does a great job of challenging a player with anywhere from 1
to 8 bad guys of varying strength and speed, not to mention the occasional
hunk of debris or asteroid to come straight for you at the worst moment.
All objects in the game are constructed out of filled polygons, unlike Star
Wars which uses empty wireframe vector graphics.

The program appears to be written in assembler (MASM?) to be lightning
fast, and lets you adjust the FrameRate (I use 43 Hz on a single speed
200LX) for the most comfortable play. I also prefer to use Ýon¨Ý/¨ to
invert the screen to make the background of space black.

I've found two versions of LineWars, 1.12 and 1.52, and either runs fine on
the LX. Both are available in the DOS file area of FilePile
(http://filepile.com/nc/cs3?combodos). Note that there is also a *LineWars
II*, but this version requires a 286/386 and EGA/VGA.

Give it a try and let me know what you think.

B.

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:45:52 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-10 17:15:09 EST, you write:

<< I suggest we change to one of the following names.
  >>

Or how about:

    WinCEs-We-Dont-Need-No-Stinking-WinCEs-L

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:53:17 GMT
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:21:03 -0600, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

>Can we either:
>
>(a) Change the name of the list from HP LX mailing list to something
>more indicative?
>
>(b) Welcome the LX/WinCE users to use the list also.  I personally =
wouldn't
>mind them participating.  Might even be a good thing.

Personally I find the list busy enough without adding extra posts about
machines few of us own, or wish to own. Keep it 100/200 I say.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:55:45 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Happy Birthday to us.....

Hi C
Out celebrating?

Semper fideles
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:07:03 GMT
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              Russel Brooks 
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I think the list might be interested in this reply I got from HP
as a result of my commenting on the "Jornada" name and the 200LX.

Russ Brooks


>--- begin of forwarded message ---
>
>From: MARKETDEV_APCDMKTG@HP-Singapore-gen7.om.hp.com
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:04:53 +0800
>Subject: Re: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>To: rlbrooks@pobox.com
>
>Item Subject: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>     Russel,
>
>     It is a typo. It is and will always be called the 200LX
>
>     Regards
>     HP
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>Subject: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>Author:  rlbrooks (rlbrooks@pobox.com) at HP-Singapore,shargw30
>Date:    11/2/98 1:42 AM
>
>
>Below is the result of the HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form.  =
It was s
>ubmitted by Russel Brooks  (rlbrooks@pobox.com) on Sunday, November 1, =
1998 at 1
>2:42:07
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>comments: I just visited your web site at:
>http://www.hp.com/jornada/getting_help/support/palmtops/faq.html
>
>The (new?) name of 'Jornada' disturbs me.
>The HP200LX has been around for years and people
>know it by that name.  Adding Jornana to its
>name this late in its life is sure to confuse
>many people.
>
>The 200LX is a terrific little computer (vs. a
>desktop accessory like the WinCE machines).
>
>Its a shame that HP doesn't promote it more but
>the fact that it has a strong user base keeps it
>alive anyway.  Adding odd words to its name is
>just another hurdle that HP is putting it in
>its path to continued success.
>
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:26:28 -0500
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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
> This means that the digital signals to the phone are coupled
> through the pcmcia adapter and are one of the brown foil cables seen in the
> upper parts of inside1.jpg and inside2.jpg. The other foil cable is to the
> screen. Now this presents a problem as to if this second pcmcia port is an
> ordinary pcmcia port or a HP hack to get the phone signals out. The
> connector on the phone has 2x8 gold contacts...

Does anyone know if PC card modems have this ability? Maybe all PC card
modems
are like this and we never knew it since we always used the "other" end.

If this is true, maybe one can remove the Nokia modem and replace it
with a
standard 14.4, plug in an analog phone and go wireless. Now if I could
just
figure out why my 2160 phone doesn't dial when the modem commands it.

WIsh some of the HP design team were around for questions.....
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:06:54 -0800
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Ýsome snipped¨
> download  POST/LX   3:28   484cps  14400bps  115200bps
> download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
>
> During the whole test, the downloading speed with POST/LX
> never passed the limit of 520cps. How come?

This looks like a classic dropping of bytes (causing packets to
be retransmitted).  It's amazing NETTAMER is able to handle 115200
on the LX!  I don't know why news would work any better than email,
but 115200 seems way too fast.  Even though the modems are only talking
14400, and compression will only give about 53k max the characters
are buffered on the modem and still bursting to the LX at 115200 with
long pauses between.  All you need to do is miss one character in a
burst and TCP backs off and performance goes down the drain.

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Whats a good price/place to get, a pc card reader that will install in a
5.25 slot in my computer case, using a pci or isa slot.  I want the drive to
read/write flash memory cards and work with modem/network cards as well.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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> Y'all stop being madd at me yet?   Goood.

Never been "MADD" at you!

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Anyhoo... as far as a fix, I think the best one I saw was to glue a metal
plate on top of the crack. Maybe get it engraved first so it looks =
better.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:11:19 +0100
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I was the one with the Lego glue. It really is the best I have found, and I
got mine by contacting LEGO in Denmark. Other glues that dissolves ABS
plastic might do just as well, but most model airplane types lack real
strength. (I've tried three!)

I was informed by someone on the list that later models had en angineering
change to the right hinge, strengthening it. That means that returning your
unit to HP for a repair might get you a revised hinge design.

As to strengthening it, I don't know. I believe you might hot weld a
perforated piece of steel to the plastic in the hinge area by completely
dissasembling the unit, but that obviously runs the risk of getting into
contact problems with the screen showing black stripes etc. Besides which
it is a lot of work, requiring plastic welding skills that mean that if you
know how you wouldn't ask. (G)

The conclusion last time (as far as I remember) was this:
1) Treat your LX as you would your woman - with great respect, dont leave
her lying about, and don't knock her, drop her to the floor or do similar
disrespectful things.
(I know it doesn't sound politically correct, but I love the images it
creates!!)
2) Lubricate the hinge with silicone grease so the case opens with less
friction. Never mind that it now won't stay open at your favourite angle
3) Consider getting a re-engineered case from HP.
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> Fra: Daniel Ginsberg (remove this antispam deterrent to email me)

> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Re: Hinge crack
> Dato: 10. november 1998 22:58
>
> My 100LX developed a crack near the right hinge after a few years.
> Admittedly it was dropped a few times.  Superglue multiple times did not

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Then look again! (G)
Chers,
Paul
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> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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> Dato: 10. november 1998 21:28

> know. Must probably laying around gathering dust. I don't see any Norway
> based posts here.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:32:01 +0100
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Come off it!
The data is "bursting" into the LX at appx 30k bits/second.
What max speed the remote modem is set to doesn't enter into it. The
weakest link&chain stuff, etc.
It proves that nettamer is capable of i/o speeds of appx 30k, and that
Post/lx ain't.
If I was the guy doing the POST/LX programming, I'd look into:
1) Raw i/o of my app
2) Raw i/o of my TCP/IP suite
3) Any handshaking/buffering problems between modem and s/w
4) Work out time delay through my API's (if any) so as to get the total i/o
cycle time
Cheers,
Paul

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> Emne: Re: downloading speed (POST/LX vs. NETTAMER)
> Dato: 11. november 1998 01:06
>
> Ýsome snipped¨
> > download  POST/LX   3:28   484cps  14400bps  115200bps
> > download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
> >
> > During the whole test, the downloading speed with POST/LX
> > never passed the limit of 520cps. How come?
>
> This looks like a classic dropping of bytes (causing packets to
> be retransmitted).  It's amazing NETTAMER is able to handle 115200
> on the LX!  I don't know why news would work any better than email,
> but 115200 seems way too fast.  Even though the modems are only talking
> 14400, and compression will only give about 53k max the characters
> are buffered on the modem and still bursting to the LX at 115200 with
> long pauses between.  All you need to do is miss one character in a
> burst and TCP backs off and performance goes down the drain.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:35:12 +1100
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> available in the DOS file area of FilePile
http://filepile.com/nc/cs3?combodos

> Give it a try and let me know what you think.
I've only had a quick look, but:

You really can't see the stars in the background at all (Star Wars had
a similar problem). If only they were 4 pixels instead of two...

Considering that this is a "family" list, I should also add that one of
the versions had a opening screen which ... lacks decorum. As a
non-family man, I found it very funny. You are warned.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 09:11:19AM +0100, Paal Rasmussen wrote:
> I was the one with the Lego glue. It really is the best I have found, and I
> got mine by contacting LEGO in Denmark. Other glues that dissolves ABS
> plastic might do just as well, but most model airplane types lack real
> strength. (I've tried three!)

I never thought about lego glue, does it dissolve the plastic around the
hinge in a grotesque manner?? i know crazy glue is horrible on plastic
around hinges (experience from my gateway handbook), leaving it looking
deformed and whatnot, and it didn't hold well either.

on the handbook's hinge, i ended up using liquid solder and sanding it
down (gently) to a smooth finish.  of course, i wasn't very experienced
with liquid solder at the time and basically sealed that shut permanently.
I wouldn't recommend it for an LX unless you are willing to risk doing
BadThings(tm) to the hinge.  on the handbook, there's an actual hinge
with a metal bar extending to the screen panel that makes it easier to
work with.

> The conclusion last time (as far as I remember) was this:
> 1) Treat your LX as you would your woman - with great respect, don't leave
> her lying about, and don't knock her, drop her to the floor or do similar
> disrespectful things.
> (I know it doesn't sound politically correct, but I love the images it
> creates!!)

being the guy with a 200lx named Jenny, i can understand that completely
and don't think it sounds anti-politically correct.  after all, the
200lx works harder than i do, i just won't expect one day for the palmtop
to open a door for me ;¨

> 2) Lubricate the hinge with silicone grease so the case opens with less
> friction. Never mind that it now won't stay open at your favorite angle

i doubt the political correctness of "2)" after reading "1)" though };¨


-francois

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> download  POST/LX   3:28   484cps  14400bps  115200bps> download  NETTAMER  0:35  2874cps  14400bps  115200bps
the modem to modem speed was 14400bps. In an ideal case this
means 14400 bits travel in one second, resulting in 1800 bytes.
The downloaded file had 100000 bytes. 100000/1800 results in
55 seconds. And I didn't count stop bits and packet headers!
That is, if no compression is involved, you cannot download
faster than in 55 seconds.

I guess you did the test with the same modem, using the same
ISP and the identical modem init string with both programs.

From your NETTAMER time I conclude, that modem to modem
compression takes place. (V.42 or MNP-5?) You should see that
if you put ATW1 into your modem dial string to report full
connecting progress in readable form.

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I very carefully oiled the hinges last night which has made my
200lx much easier to open. Trouble is, I now have lines of pixels
missing about 8 lines down. Any ideas anyone? I assume that some
of the oil has run on to slip ring type connector that is close
to the hinge. Would this be correct? Anyone got any ideas for
cleaning them up if this is the problem?

Thanks

David Wood
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:22:52 +0100
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It seams that sometimes when I play Curtis Cameron's Tetris (available
at SUPER) I get my system clock reset to 0:00.

Is this possible? Has someone else experienced something similar?

Paulo

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:27:28 +0100
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Hi all,

I got this from http://www.affari.com/fulmine/Nokia2110.htm. Lots of mobile
info if you backtrack a little.
This is the pinout of the phone. Pins I marked with a star are for sure
carried through the cable/card.

                                   ANT 16 9 Charging connector
                                  (O) I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I ( ) ( o )
                                           CON 8 1
          The left symbol (O) is the antenna connector for car kits. The
symbol numbered 16-9
          on the top and 8-1 on the bottom is the system connector. the ( )
is the open space
          next to the connector and the ( o ) is the charging connector for
you home-charger.
          PIN     Description
*         1   - Digital ground
          2   - External audio input from accessories or handsfree
microphone.
                 Multiplexed with junction box connection control signal
?         3   - Analogue ground for accessories
 *        4   - Transmitted DBUS data to the accessories
*         5   - Serial Bidirectional data between the phone and accessories
?         6   - Hook indication. HP has a 100KE pull-up resistor.
          7   - Handsfree device power on/off, data to flash programming
device.
          8   - Battery charging voltage
*         9   - Digital ground
          10 - External Audio output to accessories or handsfree speaker
*         11 - DBUS data bit sync clock
*         12 - DBUS recieved data from the accessories
          13 - Power supply to headset adapter
          14 - Programming voltage for FLASH
*         15 - DBUS data clock
          16 - Battery charging voltage

So this makes a minimum of 7 wires, possibly 2 more, that need to go through
the pcmcia connector.

A little later:

The pcmcia port spec I found through jeeves :

There is actually 7+11=18 lines not defined in ATA memory or i/o mode! So
this should be no problem anymore.

Somebody with programming expertise, a cf card and a 700LX could
investigate. This is about as far as I can go, since I lack the programming
experience...

br

Franklin

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> The GDB
> database seems to have an approx. 5,000 record limit is this the case?
> Multiple files are not convenient given load time and keystrokes etc...

Yes, the GDB application has a record limit of 5000.  And notes fields
in a record could as another record, so each record with a notes field
counts as two records towards that 5000 limit.

Buddy for the 100/200LX can make switching between several GDB files
as simple as two keystrokes.

Load (or really unload time before a new file is loaded) can be
improved with the FASTDB.TSR utility.

Perhaps you can fine an old copy of dBase III or one of the other old
DOS DBMS programs that run nicely on the 200LX.


Stan

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Paulo Custodio wrote:

> It seams that sometimes when I play Curtis Cameron's Tetris (available
> at SUPER) I get my system clock reset to 0:00.
>
> Is this possible? Has someone else experienced something similar?


It is a known bug.  Curtis fixed the problem with version 1.1,
but apparently it has not replaced the version on SUPER.

Curtis's fine games are available on his website, but I'm
sorry to say I don't have the URL.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Stan the man
Of the three viable DBs (DBIII, PC FILE, and Paradox
I'd recomend PARADOX.  People here recommend
using DBIII because they're familar with it (It wuz the first
major DB on the mkt like Wordstar).  If yu don't know
nuthing about it, yu kant make it work.  It gives a blank
screen asking for a commnd. If yu don't have a manual,
yu have to be smarter than me :)

On the other hand, Paradox is intuitive from screen one.
It asks a bunch of questions (field name and size) and
yor on yor way.  Yu kan make this woik w/o a manual.  I did.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:28:32 -0600
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I recall someone on this list uses xtpro.  I recently installed this on
my 200LX, and can't figure out two things:

(a) any way to start the program in B/W or Monochrome mode?  How about
a way to change it to this mode once running?

(b) When I tried to execute the help command (F1), I get an error message
that says it can't find some file on the C:\XTPRO drive.  Well of course
not - I have installed XTPRO on the A:\XTPRO drive.  Any way to correct
this?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:30:11 -0600
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I have somehow lost my copy of ANSI.SYS and NANSI.SYS that I used to load
when I needed ANSI screen control (like when I run a program compiled
with the curses library).  Where do I get this?  Off of any DOS distribution,
or does it have to be from a copy DOS 5.0?  Or somewhere else entirely?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:47:03 -0000
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Chris

It'll have to be DOS 5.0. Assuming the BIOS presents a standard layer
to DOS then the standard DOS 5.0 version should be ok. Yes from a standard
DOS 5.0 disk set.

Can't help you get one though, mine are in store at the moment.

On Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:30 PM, R. Christopher Lott ÝSMTP:rclott@RO.COM¨ wrote:
> I have somehow lost my copy of ANSI.SYS and NANSI.SYS that I used to load
> when I needed ANSI screen control (like when I run a program compiled
> with the curses library).  Where do I get this?  Off of any DOS distribution,
> or does it have to be from a copy DOS 5.0?  Or somewhere else entirely?

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:14:07 -0500
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Via direct email, I have sent the DOS 5.0 ANSI.SYS file to you




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Subject: ANSI.SYS


I have somehow lost my copy of ANSI.SYS and NANSI.SYS that I used to load
when I needed ANSI screen control (like when I run a program compiled
with the curses library).  Where do I get this?  Off of any DOS
distribution,
or does it have to be from a copy DOS 5.0?  Or somewhere else entirely?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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I run Xtpro, and I think it was David Lawrence who runs Xtpro Gold.

My Xtpro (version 1.1) comes with a config utility called xtprocfg.exe
which modifies the settings (including one that I have set to
RGB/Monochrome, and also the default path to Xtpro's files).  You might
look for that. Drop me a note if you can't find it.

- Longden





"R. Christopher Lott"  on 11/11/98 06:28:32 AM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
      respond to "R. Christopher Lott" 

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Subject:  XtPro




I recall someone on this list uses xtpro.  I recently installed this on
my 200LX, and can't figure out two things:

(a) any way to start the program in B/W or Monochrome mode?  How about
a way to change it to this mode once running?

(b) When I tried to execute the help command (F1), I get an error message
that says it can't find some file on the C:\XTPRO drive.  Well of course
not - I have installed XTPRO on the A:\XTPRO drive.  Any way to correct
this?

Thanks,

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:37:34 -0800
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Sorry, I forgot to mention this yesterday, but I posted Franklin
Eekhout's pictures of the internals of the 700LX up on my site.

Also, www.hplx.net was down for a while last night as I struggled to
recover from a migration to SCSI that went terribly wrong.    Sorry if
it caused any inconvenience...

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On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:39:38 -0500, Russel Brooks  =
wrote:

rl> I agree with those that wish this List to remain focused on the =
95/100/200LX
rl> DOS palmtops.

rl> Actually I don't think there's been enough of bother of misguided CE =
users to
rl> bother changing anything.
rl>
rl> Russ Brooks

I agree. My impression is that we see 1 or 2 CE posts a month at most,
we should just point them in the right direction in a civil manner. Of
course we could also compare and contrast a little, try to make a poor
CE user see the light :¬) Who knows, we may get a convert!

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I have Alpha Four which is a really good relational database for DOS that
runs nicely on the LX. I've used Alpha Four for several years and consider it
better that anything else I've seen.

Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> > The GDB
> > database seems to have an approx. 5,000 record limit is this the case?
> > Multiple files are not convenient given load time and keystrokes etc...
>
> Yes, the GDB application has a record limit of 5000.  And notes fields
> in a record could as another record, so each record with a notes field
> counts as two records towards that 5000 limit.
>
> Buddy for the 100/200LX can make switching between several GDB files
> as simple as two keystrokes.
>
> Load (or really unload time before a new file is loaded) can be
> improved with the FASTDB.TSR utility.
>
> Perhaps you can fine an old copy of dBase III or one of the other old
> DOS DBMS programs that run nicely on the 200LX.
>
> Stan
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Chris
Try the dos cmd MODE (see manual).
ANSI/NANSI are kommon easy to fine files on the
net or SUPER.  You kan try other ver of DOS.
Ques re help file not found is easy.   If you have the
help file, just create the DIR and put everything into it.
or correct the path to where it can be found.

Semper mobilis,
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> I was the one with the Lego glue. It really is the best I have found, and I
> got mine by contacting LEGO in Denmark. Other glues that dissolves ABS
> plastic might do just as well, but most model airplane types lack real
> strength. (I've tried three!)

I've tried ABS cement and it wouldn't melt the plastic used on a 100LX
at least.  Superglue doesn't work that well (even the special "Plastix"
superglue).  Epoxy works pretty well.  Lego glue sounds very promising!

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> Come off it!
> The data is "bursting" into the LX at appx 30k bits/second.

Actually, more like 92k bits/sec, though bits is misleading since
the cpu side is parallel (the reveiver holding register is read
in a single byte read).  115200/10 = 11520 bytes/sec (1 start,
8 data, 1 stop, though I think back-to-back characters can drop one
of the start/stop bits).  11520*8 = 92160 bits/sec on the cpu side.

What I meant by "long pauses" was that the modem will error check
and uncompress a group of bytes received, feed it to the system
at the full 115200 rate, then nothing else will appear on the wire
until another group of bytes has traversed the slow phone link (ignoring
the effects of windowing and such)

> What max speed the remote modem is set to doesn't enter into it. The
> weakest link&chain stuff, etc.

I believe if you go back and read my previous message that is
exactly what I said..  Actually, maybe you misunderstood the point
I was making.  "The fact the modem is talking 14,400 make no difference
because it's still bursting bytes at 115200 to the uart" - that
is what I was trying to say.

> It proves that nettamer is capable of i/o speeds of appx 30k, and that
> Post/lx ain't.

Again, that's exactly what I said (except for the 30k rate)

> If I was the guy doing the POST/LX programming, I'd look into:
> 1) Raw i/o of my app
> 2) Raw i/o of my TCP/IP suite
> 3) Any handshaking/buffering problems between modem and s/w
> 4) Work out time delay through my API's (if any) so as to get the total i/o
> cycle time

Yes, I agree with most of this.  A small difference in TCP speed
comparisons would indicate efficiency differences in the entire
data path.  However, if TCP throughput is abysmal this is almost
certainly packet loss (TCP backoff is in effect).  There are two
places to look for this:  1) interrupt latency is high enough that
you can't get the character from the uart fast enough, 2) your
programs buffer is filling up and handshake lines aren't stopping
the data.  These are two totally different problems with different
causes and solutions.  (One nice thing about some Motorola uarts
is the ability of the uart to handshake when #1 occurs - Intel
uarts don't have this feature)

It sounds like either my explanation was unclear, or simply
misinterpreted.  We're both saying basically the same thing.

> > This looks like a classic dropping of bytes (causing packets to
> > be retransmitted).  It's amazing NETTAMER is able to handle 115200
> > on the LX!  I don't know why news would work any better than email,
> > but 115200 seems way too fast.  Even though the modems are only talking
> > 14400, and compression will only give about 53k max the characters
> > are buffered on the modem and still bursting to the LX at 115200 with
> > long pauses between.  All you need to do is miss one character in a
> > burst and TCP backs off and performance goes down the drain.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:28:02 -0800
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I suggest we all send our wish lists to this person

MARKETDEV_APCDMKTG@HP-Singapore-gen7.om.hp.com

What we need is a revolt.  DOS Palmtopers UNITE! =20

I, for one, will explain (hopefully to be forwarded to Mr. Big) that my =
DOS palmtop is falling apart (cracked hinge) and I'm seeing vertical =
lines on my display.  A replacement is needed and this WinCE thing with =
no keypad just wont cut it.  I'm looking elsewhere unless HP gives me =
more bang for my buck.

Please join me in this grass roots effort.  If we accomplish nothing, at =
least we can vent (and have fun).

Don.



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From:   Russel Brooks ÝSMTP:rlbrooks@IBM.NET¨
Sent:   Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:07 PM
Subject:        HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form

I think the list might be interested in this reply I got from HP
as a result of my commenting on the "Jornada" name and the 200LX.

Russ Brooks


>--- begin of forwarded message ---
>
>From: MARKETDEV_APCDMKTG@HP-Singapore-gen7.om.hp.com
>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:04:53 +0800
>Subject: Re: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>To: rlbrooks@pobox.com
>

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Mebbe we can convince Caldera to come out with a DR-DOS palmtop. They
should buy the HP200LX rights from HP and *DO* something with it.
Caldera has serious gripes with MS and may want to go toe-to-toe with
WinCE. Imagine a Caldera Embedded DOS palmtop with webspyder, EGA or
VGA, Packet Drivers, etc... Woofa! that would kik some sereeus ass!



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Collins Ýmailto:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:28 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>
>
> I suggest we all send our wish lists to this person
>
> MARKETDEV_APCDMKTG@HP-Singapore-gen7.om.hp.com
>
> What we need is a revolt.  DOS Palmtopers UNITE!
>
> I, for one, will explain (hopefully to be forwarded to Mr.
> Big) that my DOS palmtop is falling apart (cracked hinge) and
> I'm seeing vertical lines on my display.  A replacement is
> needed and this WinCE thing with no keypad just wont cut it.
> I'm looking elsewhere unless HP gives me more bang for my buck.
>
> Please join me in this grass roots effort.  If we accomplish
> nothing, at least we can vent (and have fun).
>
> Don.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Russel Brooks ÝSMTP:rlbrooks@IBM.NET¨
> Sent:   Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:07 PM
> Subject:        HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
>
> I think the list might be interested in this reply I got from HP
> as a result of my commenting on the "Jornada" name and the 200LX.
>
> Russ Brooks
>
>
> >--- begin of forwarded message ---
> >
> >From: MARKETDEV_APCDMKTG@HP-Singapore-gen7.om.hp.com
> >Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:04:53 +0800
> >Subject: Re: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form
> >To: rlbrooks@pobox.com
> >
>
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I just saw a BBS listing in my area using WinServer BBS software.  It =
stated that it was "fully Web browser compliant, this is the future of =
BBSing."  Has anyone used this type of BBS?  I don't own WWW/LX so I =
cant test if HV would work.  It may only be Windows browser compliant, =
but it would be interesting to find out.

Don.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:58:08 +0100
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I found the pcmcia ata and i/o port pinouts here:

http://www.aix.de/willow/PCMCIA.HTM

I havn't been very successful in creating a text only file, thus the url
only

br

Franklin

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:16:43 -0600
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> (b) When I tried to execute the help command (F1), I get an error message
> that says it can't find some file on the C:\XTPRO drive.  Well of course
> not - I have installed XTPRO on the A:\XTPRO drive.  Any way to correct
> this?

As usual, Longden is right.  I run XTree Gold and have had the
same frustrations setting it up on floppies.  I don't know about
Pro, but with Gold you can work around this by starting one of
the other files and accessing an internal configuration menu.
Gold has XTG.EXE, XTGOLD.COM, and a slew of batch files with
various names.  One of the other executables may get you around
the startup issue.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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http://members.aol.com/FREEWHL44/lxgames.html

  Curtis's fine games are available on his website, but I'm
  sorry to say I don't have the URL.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:41:56 -0500
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11h40m24s ago ...
On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:22:01 -0800 (PST),  wrote:

> I presume this is some sort of software that lumberjacks use?  

I am a lumberjack, and I'm okay.
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch.
I go to the lavatry, on wednesdays I'll go shopping,
and have buttered scones for tea.
I cut down trees, I skip and jump.
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on womens clothing and hang around in bars.
I cut down trees.
I wear high heels, suspenders and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear papa.

Ahem...  I guess that's fluffy.  :)  And Monthy Python, in case you don't
know.  :)

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Walter Francis wrote:

> 
> Ahem...  I guess that's fluffy.  :)  And Monthy Python, in case you
> don't know.  :)

Of course we knew that.  We're not totally devoid of culture and
arts, you know.  

Hmm... Monty Python seems to be popular with the technical crowd. I wonder
what percentage of HP DOS palmtop users are Monty Python fans?

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Greetings All:

     I read yesterday ~20 messages with various suggestions on how to
curb the infiltration on WinCE to our LIST. I would have responded
sooner, but at present I am nursing a 102 fever.

     The current policy is that WinCE queries are acceptable, but it
is suggested that the answers be posted privately...off LIST.
Preferably, WinCE posts should be prefaced with WINCE:.

     This policy is in place to offer comparison discussion between the
DOS platform and the WinCE, and to offer some support for those on the
list who own both machines. To date, it appears to me that the majority
of messages regarding WinCE have been superfluous responses or gripes
about the original post, not honest inquiries or helpful answers. Still
I would estimate WinCE posts number ~2%.



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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:04:55 -0600
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              Phil Drummond 
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I learned that Windows 95 OSR2 has a built-in Web
server and if I can figure out how to get a SLIP
server to work (I am trying "Slipper") I think I
will be doing the very thing you are questioning.
Wish me luck.

Phil
>
>I just saw a BBS listing in my area using WinServer BBS software.
>It stated that it was "fully Web browser compliant, this is the future
>of BBSing."  Has anyone used this type of BBS?  I don't own
>WWW/LX so I cant test if HV would work.  It may only be Windows
>browser compliant, but it would be interesting to find out.
>
>Don.
>

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:06:30 -0500
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Subject: Fluff: Monty Python (was Re: HAM logging software...)


On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Walter Francis wrote:

> 
> Ahem...  I guess that's fluffy.  :)  And Monthy Python, in case you
> don't know.  :)

Of course we knew that.  We're not totally devoid of culture and
arts, you know.  

Hmm... Monty Python seems to be popular with the technical crowd. I wonder
what percentage of HP DOS palmtop users are Monty Python fans?

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:08:03 -0000
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              "D.Wood" 
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You probably ought to include Hitch Hikers and Disc World.

> Hmm... Monty Python seems to be popular with the technical crowd. I wonder
> what percentage of HP DOS palmtop users are Monty Python fans?

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:22:45 -0500
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--- begin of forwarded message ---

> Date- Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:16:42 -0500
> To- MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> From- raph@northnet.com.au (raph roberts)
> Subject- HPLX-L Form Response
>
>
> Subscriber Comments:
>  > hey ho! Im emailing you because im stuck and dun know what to do.. =
ive
> > tried connecting an external simplemodem to my palmtop but it always =
says
> > 'no carrier detected' can you help me at all, or send me to
> > someone/somewhere else? thanks and regards, raffff
>
> I suggest you post this problem with more details (how you connect the
> modem to   the palmtop, what settins and software used) to the HPLX
> Mailing List.
>
> im connecting through the docking station on a Hewlett Packard
> LX with remote networking, remote networking is the same
> as dial up networking im presuming..
>

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:39:31 -0500
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> Someone earlier wrote about soldering in a piece of metal to strengthen
> it, but I don't see how.  Lubricating the hinge with some oil (someone
> suggested trumpet oil) then glueing (someone suggested Lego glue, but I
> don't know where to find such a thing) might help.  I keep hoping
> someone will come up with a better fix, as glue has not worked for long
> for me.

I wonder how thermoplastic the material of the palmtop's case is? If
someone has an old, broken and unused case (or a piece thereof), perhaps
they can experiment with something like a soldering iron to see if it's
possible to fuse a crack with heat.

*Do NOT try this on an otherwise OK palmtop!* If it doesn't work, it will
likely make future gluing impossible! Even if it works, this method will
certainly leave an even uglier scar than glue does!

Any intrepid pioneers have a piece of palmtop case to perform this wicked
experiment on?

B.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:57 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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Subject:      Re: Fluff DOS/CE on list
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Madd?  As in Alfred E. Neuman?

At 04:48 11/11/98 +0000, you wrote:
>> Y'all stop being madd at me yet?   Goood.
>
>Never been "MADD" at you!
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:06:56 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
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With Jeteye from SUPER I could establish a connection to a Jeteye (IRDA
isn't it?) printer. With the other drivers (IRda097 it even works from
whithin the program manager (or how to call this build in ROMmies?). However
I never could build up a connection for Intellisynch HP200LX.
Juerg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> David Ness
> Sent: Dienstag, 10. November 1998 20:03
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
>
>
> Do you know for sure that the 200 supports HP's JetSend? (Nothing
> on their Web site says so.)
>
> Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:
> >
> > irda works great with 200lx, in all applications
> >
> > > Subject: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
> > > ... discussed? Does anyone know if the IRDA will work with the 200Lx?
>
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:42:28 -0800
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              Bill Childers 
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From:         Bill Childers 
Subject:      Re: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
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The JetEye driver and IRDA drivers on SUPER support printing only.  They
aren't designed for data transfer.

However, they do work great with the Citizen PN60i...

Bill


On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Juerg & Susy Duerig wrote:

> With Jeteye from SUPER I could establish a connection to a Jeteye (IRDA
> isn't it?) printer. With the other drivers (IRda097 it even works from
> whithin the program manager (or how to call this build in ROMmies?). However
> I never could build up a connection for Intellisynch HP200LX.
> Juerg
>

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:36:36 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: HP Handheld Devices Web Site Feedback Form

Yu got ONE here, think they'll unnerdtand my
substandard english?

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:49:16 -0600
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              al chin 
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From:         al chin 
Subject:      Fluff komics

Madd?  As in Alfred E. Neuman?  (No, the Hatter)
Some peoples do notice.   For those of yu that
don't.  In the olden days of Mad Komics, there
wuz a lot of little itty bitty (aside) cartoons at the
top and bottom of pages that were just as
inneresting if yu noticed.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:56:48 -0800
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              Brian Sugita 
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XTPro? Is this similiar to XTGold?  If so, you have to set the colors and path
in the setup and save the configuration.  In XTGold you enter setup mode
with ALT-F10.  I hope this helps you out.

Brian S

At 08:28 AM 11/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>I recall someone on this list uses xtpro.  I recently installed this on
>my 200LX, and can't figure out two things:
>
>(a) any way to start the program in B/W or Monochrome mode?  How about
>a way to change it to this mode once running?
>
>(b) When I tried to execute the help command (F1), I get an error message
>that says it can't find some file on the C:\XTPRO drive.  Well of course
>not - I have installed XTPRO on the A:\XTPRO drive.  Any way to correct
>this?


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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:51:53 -0800
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
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From:         "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
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I USE THE IRDA PRINTER DRIVERS WITH MY HP200LX AND MY HP6P PRINTER.  I
PRINT ABOUT 50 PAGES A DAY AND HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 6 MONTHS.
PREVIOUS THIS HAD WORKED FLAWLESSLY.  LATELY IT IS ACTING FINICKY.  SOME
TIME IT WORKS AND SOMETIMES IT HANGS UP.  DO THE RECIEVER/TRANSCEIVERS
WEAR OUT.  CAN THEY BE REPLACED.  DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:36:52 -0600
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" 
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Help.  I use Microsoft Exchange on a laptop to compose, read and send =
most of my e-mail. Exchnage automatically word wraps the messages as I =
compose out-going messages or read in-coming messages.
I've been told by one person that my messages to the HPLX listserve show =
up as one continuous line (without word wrap).  I don't know if theis a =
function of using MIME encoded messages instead of UUENCODE, or some =
other profile issue.
Can anyone help or make a suggestion.
Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:24:51 -0600
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The msg indicates that the LX <-> modem link works.
Either a bad modem or the modem isn't getting a dialtone.
Try your setup with another computer.


> > Subscriber Comments:
> >  > hey ho! Im emailing you because im stuck and dun know what to do.. ive
> > > tried connecting an external simplemodem to my palmtop but it always says
> > > 'no carrier detected' can you help me at all, or send me to
> > > someone/somewhere else? thanks and regards, raffff

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:58:57 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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Hi.
I am toying with the idea of purchasing a copy of Info Select for DOS to
run on my LX.  Micro Logic, the publisher, still has copies for $80
(www.miclog.com).  However, their Year 2000 compliance page lists this
program (and much newer versions) as "Not compliant."  Have any of you IS
users toyed around to see just what will happen 'round the turn of the
century?

There also is an old LX-specific program called Notepad which seems to
have similar functions.  Does anyone use this program?

Thanks for any input.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:04:53 -0700
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Are printing anything from DOS or when the System Manager has been terminated?


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Subject:        IR

I USE THE IRDA PRINTER DRIVERS WITH MY HP200LX AND MY HP6P PRINTER.  I
PRINT ABOUT 50 PAGES A DAY AND HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 6 MONTHS.
PREVIOUS THIS HAD WORKED FLAWLESSLY.  LATELY IT IS ACTING FINICKY.  SOME
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

> Help.  I use Microsoft Exchange on a laptop to compose, read and send most of my e-mail. Exchnage automatically word wraps the messages as I compose out-going messages or read in-coming messages.
> I've been told by one person that my messages to the HPLX listserve show up as one continuous line (without word wrap).  I don't know if theis a function of using MIME encoded messages instead of UUENCODE, or some other profile issue.

This is odd. I use PNR and either Memo or Pal Edit to write news articles
and someone on the newgroups last night told me the same thing about my
news posts. Your message looks just fine to me on PINE but upon replying
I do see that your message now looks like one long line. Maybe if someone
solves your problem they can also help me with my problem with PNR and Memo.

73 Jeff

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote:

> This is odd. I use PNR and either Memo or Pal Edit to write news
> articles and someone on the newgroups last night told me the same
> thing about my news posts. Your message looks just fine to me on PINE
> but upon replying I do see that your message now looks like one long
> line. Maybe if someone solves your problem they can also help me with
> my problem with PNR and Memo.

I believe the trouble is that Memo will not insert hard returns in the
file except when you specifically push the enter key.  PalEdit does, I
believe, if you set the lines to wrap at a certain length.

In general, I would prefer that wrapping be handled by the viewing client
rather than the sender, so we could avoid the hideous "hard returns in the
middle of a line" look that often crops up, but some mail readers (such as
Netscape) will display a line with no hard returns as one gigantic single
line, instead of a paragraph (like Pine).

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Subject:      Re: DOS file 'times' question

> Sorry - it is not part of FAT16 vs. FAT32, which merely defines how the File Allocation Table is set up (16 bits or 32 bits to specify the disk cluster number; allows 65,536 or 4,294,967,295 cluster

> http://premium.microsoft.com/msdn/library/sdkdoc/win95/lfn_43l9.htm as well as Jeff Prosise's article referenced in my previous post.
>
> It is _possible_ (I will emphatically _not_ volunteer to do it) to write either:
> a)     a file editor which is capable of bypassing the DOS Ý1-6¨.x system calls and reading from / writing directly into the directory structure space (like Norton Utilities, etc.) all the informati

> b)    an interrupt handler which replaces and extends DOS file-handling interrupts to allow long file names in DOS. This could be done either as a TSR or as a command shell (like Stacker) to provide

> In either case, you'd need to be _very_ careful so as not to hose the directory for everything else. Unless this is of general interest to the list, I'm willing to move it off line for any further d

>
> Jon
>
> Jon Barrett
> Kensington, MD
>

FAT16 and FAT32 refers to much more than just the size ofthe fat.
These names are the normal way of refering to the filesystem
structure which includes the way that directories are organized, what
information is stored about the files and how the space is allocated.
There are many filesystems, NTFS, HPFS, EXT2, Minix, Xenix, FAT12,
FAT16 and FAT32, and they all are different in various ways. The
FATxx filesystems do share alot of structure similarities since they
have evolved from the original FAT filesystem that DOS used. The extra
date information is an extension that is unique to FAT32, it does not
exist in FAT16 or below, only the modification date is stored in
them. The long filename support that win95 overlays on "normal" FAT16
is a hack to accomidate older DOS and WIN16 programs while appearing
to add functionality to the filesystem.

Pete


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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:35:15 -0600
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              "R. Christopher Lott" 
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> middle of a line" look that often crops up, but some mail readers (such as
> Netscape) will display a line with no hard returns as one gigantic single
> line, instead of a paragraph (like Pine).

I think you incorrectly attribute this behaviour to PINE, when I suspect
it is in fact the editor that you have configured PINE to use that
actually performs this paragraph formatting.  Just curious, what editor
do you use with PINE?  I use elm almost exclusively, configured so that
vi is the primary editor.

-Chris

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> I think you incorrectly attribute this behaviour to PINE, when I
> suspect it is in fact the editor that you have configured PINE to use
> that actually performs this paragraph formatting.  Just curious, what
> editor do you use with PINE?  I use elm almost exclusively, configured
> so that vi is the primary editor.

Pine uses pico as an editor, but I believe Pine itself is the program that
DISPLAYS the message.  Pico is only used to edit the outgoing mail.  In
fact, in Pine, long-lined messages wrap correctly, whereas in Pico (when
you reply and quote, say) the lines revert to single-long-line mode.

Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe Pine uses the pico "engine" to
display files as well as edit them.

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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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word wrap doesn't add CR or LF, so everything you type up to the point
were you hit return is one line.  this can be solved easily be remembering
to hit enter at the end of a line and not just at the end of the paragraph.

not all editors/mail agents are like this, pine and pico for example
properly terminate the line on word wrap.  memo can't be set otherwise AFAIK
and Pal Edit probly can (never tried it).


--francois

On Wed, Nov 11, 1998 at 05:27:20PM -0600, Jeff wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Charles E. Sutherland wrote:
>
> > Help.  I use Microsoft Exchange on a laptop to compose, read and send most of my e-mail. Exchnage automatically word wraps the messages as I compose out-going messages or read in-coming messages.
> > I've been told by one person that my messages to the HPLX listserve show up as one continuous line (without word wrap).  I don't know if theis a function of using MIME encoded messages instead of UUENCODE, or some other profile issue.
>
> This is odd. I use PNR and either Memo or Pal Edit to write news articles
> and someone on the newgroups last night told me the same thing about my
> news posts. Your message looks just fine to me on PINE but upon replying
> I do see that your message now looks like one long line. Maybe if someone
> solves your problem they can also help me with my problem with PNR and Memo.

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Subject:      200LX code page information
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Are the code pages available in the 100LX different than the ones
in the 200LX?  My 100LX manual shows 2 standard ones (437 & 850)
plus four additional ones (437G, 437T, 852, and 866).  Am I right
in assuming there's no way to tell from software between the three
different 437 codepages?

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:03 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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I sent in a sick palmtop and they sent me a unit that was practically
brand new. Not only that, but my unit was a 1MB + 32MB Mack drive. They
sent me a 2MB+32MB drive unit..... pretty fooken kewl!!

All for a buk twenty five. I'd do business wit dose guys any day.

Just thought I'd pass along the positive vendor feedback in case anyone
is considering dealing with Thaddeus




P.S.
I bet you thought I was ready to gripe.

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:03:00 -0800
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 > Of the three viable DBs (DBIII, PC FILE, and Paradox
 > I'd recomend PARADOX.  People here recommend

There are at least 5 more dayabase programs for the
palmtops. Your information is narrow and uninformed.

ou recommenda paradox only because you know nothing about
the others. That is quite narrow, and rather uninformed
too. I hope you don't go spreading your "knowledge" like
this where it may be critical for someone to get GOOD
advice, rather than a narrow and rather uninformed advice
as you just dished out.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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              Alan Peres 
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I use InfoSelect but haven't even thought about Y2K. (I hope it is
complaint because I use it all day, every day, and don't know what I would
do without it.

I am willing to test it, if you want to tell me how! Is it anything more
than setting the HP's date for a some future date post-1/1/2000?

Alan


At 04:58 PM 11/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi.
>I am toying with the idea of purchasing a copy of Info Select for DOS to
>run on my LX.  Micro Logic, the publisher, still has copies for $80
>(www.miclog.com).  However, their Year 2000 compliance page lists this
>program (and much newer versions) as "Not compliant."  Have any of you IS
>users toyed around to see just what will happen 'round the turn of the
>century?
>
>There also is an old LX-specific program called Notepad which seems to
>have similar functions.  Does anyone use this program?
>
>Thanks for any input.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:28:44 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: Info Select and Y2K (also Notepad program)

Jimmy, maybe I kan help.
I have notepad from a few mths ago and when
I looked at it then it wuz 40 col I think but I
haven't used it since.  i have it if yu wan it.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, James P. Grenert wrote:


> There also is an old LX-specific program called Notepad which seems to
> have similar functions.  Does anyone use this program?

I used this once on the 95LX, IIRC it was HP95LX specific. It might run on
the x00LX, but I doubt it will take advantage of the larger screen size.


Regards,

Laust

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Subject:      Re: Off-list question: e-mail message formats
Comments: To: david@HPLX.NET

On 11-11 06:43pm, the following was written:

> Pine uses pico as an editor, but I believe Pine itself is the program that
> DISPLAYS the message.  Pico is only used to edit the outgoing mail.  In
> fact, in Pine, long-lined messages wrap correctly, whereas in Pico (when
> you reply and quote, say) the lines revert to single-long-line mode.
>
> Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe Pine uses the pico "engine" to
> display files as well as edit them.

I tend to agree with this as this was the case when I was reading the
original posters message, while reading it, it looked fine. When replying it
gave me the looonnnggg lines.

73 Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:22:29 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On 11-11 05:39pm, the following was written:

> In general, I would prefer that wrapping be handled by the viewing client
> rather than the sender, so we could avoid the hideous "hard returns in the
> middle of a line" look that often crops up, but some mail readers (such as
> Netscape) will display a line with no hard returns as one gigantic single
> line, instead of a paragraph (like Pine).

I wonder why some clients don't do this? It seems like this would be such an
elementary thing to do.

Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:00:04 -0800
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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
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no, largely printing smart clips from a database program

> ----------
> From:         Dan.Sommer@m.cc.utah.eduÝSMTP:Dan.Sommer@m.cc.utah.edu¨
> on behalf of Dan SommerÝSMTP:Dan.Sommer@M.CC.UTAH.EDU¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Dan Sommer
> Sent:         Wednesday, November 11, 1998 3:04 PM
> To:   'HPLX Mailing List'
> Subject:      RE: IR
>
> Are printing anything from DOS or when the System Manager has been
> terminated?
>
>
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. ÝSMTP:Andrew.Wachtel@CSHS.ORG¨
>       Sent:   Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:52 PM
>       To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>       Subject:        IR
>
>       I USE THE IRDA PRINTER DRIVERS WITH MY HP200LX AND MY HP6P
> PRINTER.  I
>       PRINT ABOUT 50 PAGES A DAY AND HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 6
> MONTHS.
>       PREVIOUS THIS HAD WORKED FLAWLESSLY.  LATELY IT IS ACTING
> FINICKY.  SOME
>       TIME IT WORKS AND SOMETIMES IT HANGS UP.  DO THE
> RECIEVER/TRANSCEIVERS
>       WEAR OUT.  CAN THEY BE REPLACED.  DOES ANY ONE HAVE ANY
> EXPERIENCE.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:27:35 +1300
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              Michelle Honey 
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At 10:31 AM 11/5/98 -0500, Al wrote:
>     Also, someone mentioned running Quattro v5 on the LX, don't
>suppose any of you know of a possible source for that product3

Al,
        I just located in my resource cupboard, a package with Quattro Pro V 4.0.
As new in
        original packaging.

        Any interest?

Rgds
Craig Honey
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              Alan Peres 
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Subject:      Re: Info Select and Y2K (also Notepad program)
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  Have any of you IS
>users toyed around to see just what will happen 'round the turn of the
>century?


I had a few minutes and did the following:

I changed the HP's date to 11-11-01.

I then went into InfoSelect to see what would happen. I have set it up to
automatically date new entries. The entries I created all were dated 11-11- 1.

Didn't try any other dates, or do anything fancy like sort by date or
search by date, but would guess that it will be Y2K compatible.

Alan

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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:52:40 -0800
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              arnie 
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My son hasn't turned on his 200LX-2 meg in about three weeks.  The last =
time he had it on, he saw a message about the battery being low.  Today =
when he tried to use it, it was completely dead.  It wouldn't even power =
on with an adapter.  What might be the cause of this?  Could it be that =
the watch type battery is also out, and it will not power on without it. =
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Just thought I'd pass on that the $10 pc card readers from NECX, mentioned
earlier in this list, are recognized and supported by Linux as well as
Windows 95 - so one could use the Linux LX transfer tools to backup your HP
...

regards,
kurt

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:31:10 -0500
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Tonight, I took my beloved HP100 apart to see if could possibly replace the
case top and right hinge with the one off an HP95 that I purchased
inexpensively.  I got the case apart okay, and even got it back together
(and it still works fine :)).  The problem is I cant figure out how to take
the screen apart.  I recall there was a web site full of pictures of an
HP100/200 taken apart right down to the screen and all.  Now, I can't find
it. There are some pictures on one of the sites that the search engines
find, but this one had beautiful drawings and lots of details.  Anyone
remember where it is?  Thanks.

Larry

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:57:01 +0100
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Putting in a new watch type battery and a new set of AA's will take you out
of trouble. The backup battery(watch type) will quickly run out if you have
either no AA's or adapter on.
Etienne Lemaire
37  H.Boulengerlaan
B-3080 TERVUREN
stelem@ibm.net
32.(0)2.7681931

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From: arnie 
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Subject: dead 200LX
Date: jeudi 12 novembre 1998 6:52

My son hasn't turned on his 200LX-2 meg in about three weeks.  The last
time he had it on, he saw a message about the battery being low.  Today
when he tried to use it, it was completely dead.  It wouldn't even power on
with an adapter.  What might be the cause of this?  Could it be that the
watch type battery is also out, and it will not power on without it.  Or
could the two penlight batteries being out be the culpret?
Thanks in advance

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Has anyone seen a good BattleZone that runs one the HP200lx?  Where can I
get a copy?  Thanks!

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    -----Original Message-----
    From: arnie 
    To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
    Date: Thursday, 12 November 1998 14:05
    Subject: dead 200LX
   =20
   =20
    My son hasn't turned on his 200LX-2 meg in about three weeks.  The =
last time he had it on, he saw a message about the battery being low.  =
Today when he tried to use it, it was completely dead.  It wouldn't even =
power on with an adapter.  What might be the cause of this?  Could it be =
that the watch type battery is also out, and it will not power on =
without it.  Or could the two penlight batteries being out be the =
culpret? =20
    Thanks in advance
   =20
   =20
    Try replacing the watch type battery back-up battery and the main
    batteries...should work then.

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    <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>=

Date:=20
    Thursday, 12 November 1998 14:05
Subject: dead=20
    200LX


    
My son hasn't turned on his 200LX-2 meg in about =
three=20
    weeks.  The last time he had it on, he saw a message about the =
battery=20
    being low.  Today when he tried to use it, it was completely=20
    dead.  It wouldn't even power on with an adapter.  What =
might be=20
    the cause of this?  Could it be that the watch type battery is =
also=20
    out, and it will not power on without it.  Or could the two =
penlight=20
    batteries being out be the culpret?  

    
Thanks in advance

    
 

    
 

    
Try replacing the watch type battery back-up =
battery and=20
    the main

    
batteries...should work=20
then.


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>
> In general, I would prefer that wrapping be handled by the viewing =
client
> rather than the sender, so we could avoid the hideous "hard returns in =
the
> middle of a line" look that often crops up, but some mail readers (such =
as
> Netscape) will display a line with no hard returns as one gigantic =
single
> line, instead of a paragraph (like Pine).
>
I usually tell netscape to wrap long lines, or with post/lx, re-format.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:47:00 +0100
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              Paal Rasmussen 
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Al!
This is unfair!!!
I SPECIFICALLY recomended (shouting, nudging you in the ribs whilst
grinning) FOXPRO, not Foxbase, dbase, etc for EXACTLY that reason!
Foxpro has a large help file, has several "GUI" windows popping up on you
when you fire it up, and is as intuitive as database management will ever
be.
It is fast, (even on the LX) and it doesn't stop you from building
industrial strength applications should you so desire.
I really hate s/w that limits my freedom - I didn't get an LX to be
hindered in what I do - I want real database power, not some braindead s/w
that replaces my Rolodex. (Never had one of those BTW, but I've seen one -
that was enough!)
Serious dept:
Foxpro is not difficult to learn, runs on the LX, and even lets you do
event based programming in a GUI environment easily ported to Windo$se
should you so desire. The basic manual is included in the help files, and
you can pick up a good book anywhere good books are sold.
So there!

Friendly (but stern) greetings from
Paul Rasmussen
CEO - The Foxpro preservation society.

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> Fra: al chin 
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Re: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX
> Dato: 12. november 1998 14:54
>
> Stan the man
> Of the three viable DBs (DBIII, PC FILE, and Paradox
> I'd recomend PARADOX.  People here recommend
> using DBIII because they're familar with it (It wuz the first
> major DB on the mkt like Wordstar).  If yu don't know
> nuthing about it, yu kant make it work.  It gives a blank
> screen asking for a commnd. If yu don't have a manual,
> yu have to be smarter than me :)

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:02:53 +0100
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Steven!
My point was that since the LX is connected to a 14400 modem, the max
bits/second speed from this device assuming an infinite modem to CPU speed
is bound to be limited by 14400 x whatever compression ratio is in effect.
Assuming this to be rarely over 2x it gives that the cpu is receiving a
bitstream averaging 30kbps.
Allowing for packet overhead and RS232 signalling, this defines the max
mail file transfer rate of a 14400 modem as a good deal less than 30kbps,
probably around 20kbps, resulting in slightly over 2 kBytes/second.
Agree?
The modem to cpu rate buffering/handshaking/errorchecking/retransmitt
problem is as you described, and not what I was getting at. My only point
was that no matter how high the CPU->modem rate, allowing for moderately
good s/w design (such as actually paying attention to fifo overrun etc) the
average rate was fairly low and governed entirely by the modem rate, even
for a modest CPU like the Hornet.
So the problem is with my asumption about "moderately good s/w design", no?
sincerely,
Paul

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> Fra: Steven Lawson 
> Emne: Re: downloading speed (POST/LX vs. NETTAMER)
> Dato: 11. november 1998 16:58
>
> > Come off it!
> > The data is "bursting" into the LX at appx 30k bits/second.
>
> Actually, more like 92k bits/sec, though bits is misleading since

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:23:58 +0100
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Soldering ABS plastic is not easy. The trick is to raise the temp to the
thermoplastic region without oxidising the platic, and then introduce so
much mechanical agitation that the two parts of the crack fuses. This
usually means supplying excess material and then removing afterwards.
I tried the soldering iron trick on my 95, but that did not work. I
seriously doubt that the soldering iron approach would work at all, unless
you got one of those large ones made for PVC welding, and even then you
would probably end up warping the case.
Solvents loaded with plastic that attack the LX is IMHO the way to go.
These bonds can be as tough as the case itself if the contact area is made
large, and no sharp discontinuities exist to form the starting point for a
new crack. This is easy on the outside, but difficult on the inside. A
liberal amount of glue is often the best you can do! (Pardon the rhyme!)
Cheers,
Paul Rasmussen

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> Fra: Bruce Martin 
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Re: Hinge crack
> Dato: 11. november 1998 19:39
> I wonder how thermoplastic the material of the palmtop's case is? If
> someone has an old, broken and unused case (or a piece thereof), perhaps
> they can experiment with something like a soldering iron to see if it's
> possible to fuse a crack with heat.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:11:54 +0100
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I for 1!
The chorus singing "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK etc" slowly sounding unsure
of itself when Jon Cleese stretches the envelope with his increasinly
bizarre description of what Lumberjacks do is for me a great illustration
of Microsoft/CE (=Cleese) vs. good 'ol Palmtoppers (= Chorus).
Sincerely,
Paul Rasmussen
CEO - The International Palmtopping Lumberjacs Association.

> Hmm... Monty Python seems to be popular with the technical crowd. I
wonder
> what percentage of HP DOS palmtop users are Monty Python fans?

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:06:35 +1000
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At 06:03  11/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
> > Of the three viable DBs (DBIII, PC FILE, and Paradox
> > I'd recomend PARADOX.  People here recommend
>
>There are at least 5 more dayabase programs for the
>palmtops. Your information is narrow and uninformed.
>
>ou recommenda paradox only because you know nothing about
>the others. That is quite narrow, and rather uninformed
>too. I hope you don't go spreading your "knowledge" like
>this where it may be critical for someone to get GOOD
>advice, rather than a narrow and rather uninformed advice
>as you just dished out.
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

The advice was originally directed at myself. He summarised (based on his
own experience, I assume), I understood and took this into account when
evaluating the many responses. I than dragged out my copy of Clarion 2.1,
an hour later I had a solution and finished eating my Sandwich. It was very
nice I might add.

If I required additional information I would think that a brief email
exchange could clarify any fuzzy points. This ain't brain surgery. So, a
big thank you to all those that shared a little of their experience with me.

Question ? What is the correct etiquette once a message has been posted and
answer received? A single thank you to the mail list or individual
acknowledgements? If I had to process individual acknowledgements  I would
spend far too much time exposed this fandangledelectronicgizzmo.

Vaughn

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:40:46 -0500
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al,

I noticed and that was half the value of the magazine.




Thanks,

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Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of al chin
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 2:49 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Fluff komics


Madd?  As in Alfred E. Neuman?  (No, the Hatter)
Some peoples do notice.   For those of yu that
don't.  In the olden days of Mad Komics, there
wuz a lot of little itty bitty (aside) cartoons at the
top and bottom of pages that were just as
inneresting if yu noticed.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal alfred  :-) .............

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:59:57 +0100
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Larry Brockman wrote:

> Tonight, I took my beloved HP100 apart to see if could possibly replace the
> case top and right hinge with the one off an HP95 that I purchased
> inexpensively.  I got the case apart okay, and even got it back together
> (and it still works fine :)).  The problem is I cant figure out how to take
> the screen apart.  I recall there was a web site full of pictures of an
> HP100/200 taken apart right down to the screen and all.  Now, I can't find
> it. There are some pictures on one of the sites that the search engines
> find, but this one had beautiful drawings and lots of details.  Anyone
> remember where it is?  Thanks.

You're probably thinking of David Sargeant's hardware section at
http://www.hplx.net


A true palmtop horror story :-)


Cheers,

Laust

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> Question ? What is the correct etiquette once a message has been posted and
> answer received? A single thank you to the mail list or individual

Of course, this question will get lots of response - please, ONE overall
THANK YOU message should suffice.  And closing the original question
with a "thanks in advance" might cover bases as well.

Reducing the number of superfluous messages would make this list more
wieldy.  In addition, if folks could check out their respective mail
programs and figure out how to reduce the huge amount of quoting and
re-quoting that occurs would help also.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:43:18 -0600
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Hello.
I purchased a secondhand copy of Prolifix's PMR medical software.
Unfortunately, the drug database file, DRUG.DAT or some other DRUG.* file
is corrupted, as I can only access data for some of the drugs.

If some kind soul uses this program, could you please send me a copy of at
least the DRUG.DAT file, or better yet, the set of DRUG.* files?  Your
help would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.

Thanks.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Hi Al,

Our data entry person forwarded a question from you.  Unfortunately, I
don't quite understand it?  Does it have to do with one of our products?
We don't have the manpower to do general tech support.  That is why this
list is great.

I am posting it here so you can clarify it and maybe someone can jump in
with the answer.

Thanks for your understanding.


<>


Hal at Thaddeus

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At 09:18 AM 11/9/98 +0100, Phil wrote:
>On the subject of Al's spelling, maybe the members of the list who've
attacked him should consider how the American way of spelling >English
words could annoy people who grew up with the "original"! It's what you say
that counts, not how you say it!

I mostly agree with you. However, keep in mind that there are non-native
English speakers on this list as well. For most of them, it takes much more
concentration to read english, and to learn the words. To understand words
that are misspelled and unknown for them, takes considerably more effort
than for the native english speakers here. If I want to read al's message:
I have to read the word, try to imagine how it would sound using the
english phonemes system, then think about a word which would somehow sound
the same but with the correct spelling, and then I can make some sense out
of it. No offense made though, it is up to anyone how they spell their
messages. Maybe it is usefull to know that I usually skip this kind of
messages since they are too hard to read, and as a very bad side effect,
decrease my own ability to use proper english since I get somewhat used to
"wrong" spelling. The latter may seem laughable, but take in mind that I
didn't grow up with english, and I'm using english only a small fraction of
the day. Most of my English is developed by reading mailing lists and
computer manuals. I lack a "trusted and official" source for developing my
English and to recognize correct and incorrect spelling. I guess most of
this is true for the other non-Americans here.

Frans

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At 03:53 PM 11/9/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I could never remember the cold-boot key sequence either.  So I have just
>taken one of those fine felt-tip pens for writing on transparencies and
>written CTRL-LEFTSHIFT-ON inside the battery cover.  Now when I get to that

I've just put it into a notetaker file!

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Is anybody on this list going to attend Comdex in Las Vegas?  We should
have a get-together.  I know Hal is going to be here, and Bernie Torbik of
Shore Systems will be here on Tuesday.  Anybody else?

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> Steven!
> My point was that since the LX is connected to a 14400 modem, the max
> bits/second speed from this device assuming an infinite modem to CPU speed
> is bound to be limited by 14400 x whatever compression ratio is in effect.

No, it only seems like that would be the case.  The killer is fifo
overrun, because the system *will* get back-to-back bytes at the
full 115200 baud rate, or 11520cps.

Why is this the case?  Because the modem doesn't just pass every character
it gets from the wire to the cpu.  It buffers them up so it can error
check/correct the data and uncompress it.  Then, it takes the completed
buffer and feeds it to the cpu at the *full DTE rate* while the next
is being built from the phoneline.

Your serial buffering code could be 100% efficient and bulletproof,
but there's *nothing* you can do if the characters are arriving at
the uart faster than you can process an interrupt (the latency of
which varies because of interrupt locks, higher priority interrupts,
dma, etc).  All you can do is try and reduce the latency.

> good s/w design (such as actually paying attention to fifo overrun etc) the

There's the key.  Fifo overrun can't be prevented, only avoided by
reducing interrupt latency.  Detecting that it happened will not change
the fact the TCP will need to retransmit the packet (thus invoking
a timeout and slow-start).  Now, Motorola had a great idea in allowing
the uart receiver to drop RTS on its own when the fifo filled.  *That*
is where fifo overrun can be prevented, in the uart.

This is a great duscussion.  Hope we're not boring the rest of the
list with it (maybe we should move it to private email?)

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Finally got my T6 torx driver today ($1.99 at Sears) and pulled the
bottom from the 700LX. Removed the Nokia DTP card and replaced it with a
Zoom 14.4 modem.

When I turned it back on it did a soft reset. Went back to DataComm and
changed the settings to phone, hit the OK button and the 700 shut down.
When I turned it back on it reset again. I went through this excersize
several times. I changed the Zoom modem to a Megahertz 1144, same thing.

Evidently this second PCMCIA slot is special to the Nokia DTP card and
nothing else. Anyone else have any ideas?
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73

Nick Marsh
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I will also be there from Saturday to Friday.


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Is anybody on this list going to attend Comdex in Las Vegas?  We should
have a get-together.  I know Hal is going to be here, and Bernie Torbik
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Shore Systems will be here on Tuesday.  Anybody else?

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Date- Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:09:32 -0500
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> Subscriber Comments: I have a HP 95LX and want to connect it to windows
> 98 and would prefere not to buy any software, or run through dos on a
> PII.

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> > Subscriber Comments: I have a HP 95LX and want to connect it to windows
> > 98 and would prefere not to buy any software, or run through dos on a
> > PII.

I suggest the Connectivity Pack, but that violates your requirement not
to buy additional software.

One option you have is to use hyperterminal and datacomm app to exchange
files back and forth.  I've done this before for simple transfers before
I got my CPACK up and running on my Win98 machine.

-Chris Lott

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How about using TransFile Win200?  I've had that working with my 95LX,
even though that's not technically supported by the software.

Bill


On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Date- Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:09:32 -0500
> To- MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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>
> > Subscriber Comments: I have a HP 95LX and want to connect it to windows
> > 98 and would prefere not to buy any software, or run through dos on a
> > PII.
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I am working on creating a database viewer for the HPLX using Clipper.  =
The only thing I seem to be missing now are source files for DBU.  =
Anyone on the list have these source files (or better source files) they =
could email to me direct?  I will try to use PAL for the GUI and Clipper =
for the DB engine.

Don.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:54:13 -0500
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A while back, I built a couple of cases out of Plexiglass (tm), and used a
solvent to adhere two pieces together.  It was not like super glue or any
epoxy.  It had a high vaporization and was extremely fluid, so using it on
the LX would be difficult, but it formed the best plastic to plastic seal
I've ever seen.  The Plexiglass would break everywhere but at the sealed
seams.  And it was not messy, leaving even clear plastic without hardly any
deformation or marks.  (I can't vouch for the LX)

If anyone knows the name, please let us know.

I suggest using a small, thin Plexiglass square over the part that cracks.
It would look a little strange, but then, it would work.
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>> LineWars, available in the DOS file area of FilePile:
http://filepile.com/nc/cs3?combodos
>
> Considering that this is a "family" list, I should also add that one of
> the versions had a opening screen which ... lacks decorum. As a
> non-family man, I found it very funny. You are warned.

?? Really ??
I must have missed this version, no naughty opening screens appeared in
either of the two versions I tried.
I'll have to go back and look at the others (purely in the interest of
research, of course).

B->

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Date : jeudi 12 novembre 1998 17:58
Objet : Re: Hinge crack


|A while back, I built a couple of cases out of Plexiglass (tm), and used=
 a
|solvent to adhere two pieces together.  It was not like super glue or an=
y
|epoxy.  It had a high vaporization and was extremely fluid, so using it =
on
|the LX would be difficult, but it formed the best plastic to plastic sea=
l
|I've ever seen.  The Plexiglass would break everywhere but at the sealed
|seams.  And it was not messy, leaving even clear plastic without hardly =
any
|deformation or marks.  (I can't vouch for the LX)
|
|If anyone knows the name, please let us know.


We generally use methyl chloride (hope this direct translation from frenc=
h
is correct...) to bond plexiglass because this is THE solvent for plexigl=
ass
(polymetacrilate in french... I don't even try a translation!).
Not sure this should be the good one for the plastic that HP used...
The best way should be beginning from learning what is the plastic to bon=
d
then determine the right solvent...
Hope this helps...

Pierre.

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I just remembered, the solvent I used for plastics was MDC (Methylene
Di-Chloride), but any methylene-chloride solvent should work.  Also I've
heard PVC glue is mostly this kind of a solvent with some other additives
and works in a similar fasion.  Should be able to get that from most
hardware stores.

If my hinge ever cracks, I will test it.  (2 years and counting, with a
crack only visible with a 20x objective.)

Of course, this will only work if the plastic of the LX case is a
poly-methyl or poly-vinyl type plastic, so the solvent can cause new
polymer crosslinks between the dissolved plastic pieces.  I doubt you can
fix the crack itself without adhering another small plastic piece on top.
The stresses indicate that it just needs reinforcing, so we'll have to live
with ugly palmtops.  A one or two-mm thick piece should work as
reinforcement.  Any thicker, and you also run the risk of moving stresses
around the new piece (in other words, only thick enough to strengthen, not
overwhelm.  It should allow a little flexibility still.)
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  "D.Wood"  wrote:

 > I very carefully oiled the hinges last night which has made my
 > 200lx much easier to open. Trouble is, I now have lines of pixels
 > missing about 8 lines down. Any ideas anyone? I assume that some
 > of the oil has run on to slip ring type connector that is close
 > to the hinge. Would this be correct? Anyone got any ideas for
 > cleaning them up if this is the problem?

You probably oiled both hinges and some of the oil leaked into the display
cable that is stuffed in the left (i think) hinge.  If this is the source
of the problem, then the oil at best is causing a loss of electric contact
to the display.  At worst, it has dissolved part of the cable.

I don't know of any solutions, except, if you feel adventuresome, to clean
the cable and contacts.  Mack from Times2Tech would know best.  Contact him.
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I forgot to mention that if the hinges feel stiff, you should only oil the
right one.  I think.  Please, everyone, correct me if I'm wrong.  The right
hinge is the one that provides torsion for holding the open screen in
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At 06:07 PM 11/12/98 +0100, Pierre VIGNACQ wrote:
 > We generally use methyl chloride (hope this direct translation from french
 > is correct...) to bond plexiglass because this is THE solvent for
plexiglass
 > (polymetacrilate in french... I don't even try a translation!).

PMMA  (poly-methyl meth-acrylate, or something, if I remember organic chem.)

 > Not sure this should be the good one for the plastic that HP used...
 > The best way should be beginning from learning what is the plastic to bond
 > then determine the right solvent...

Good point.  Yes, a test piece of plastic...  I know!  If anyone has extra
battery covers from the repair kit HP sells, one could be sacrificed as a
trial.  As for finding thin Plexiglass... Try a cassette case or something
like that.

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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Paal Rasmussen wrote:

> I for 1!
> The chorus singing "I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK etc" slowly sounding unsure
> of itself when Jon Cleese stretches the envelope with his increasinly
> bizarre description of what Lumberjacks do is for me a great illustration
> of Microsoft/CE (=Cleese) vs. good 'ol Palmtoppers (= Chorus).

Actually it wasn't John Cleese who sang the Lumberjack Song. IIRC, it was
Michael Palin.


Cheers,

Laust

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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Frans Veldman wrote:

> >I could never remember the cold-boot key sequence either
>
> I've just put it into a notetaker file!


That should be pretty easy to get to when you need it.  ;)


Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Someone on the list asked the question 'what is Alternate in the
Datacomm configuration used for?'  Well I too wanted to know this so I
opened my 200's manual and did not find out.  I then opened my
Developer's Guide (yes, purchased back in the pre Thaddeus days for a
bunch of money) and after reading a _lot_ of stuff I could never hope to
understand, I am still clueless as to the purpose for "Alternate" in the
Datacomm application.  I then browsed my Palmtop Paper CD Infobase
(found a lot of other distracting cool stuff, as usual) and am still as
useless as a doorknob on a scuba tank.  Is this poor documentation or am
I just another stupid user?

What I want is a way to use Datacomm as the "front end" for a Telnet
session.  Imagine the following...

c:>
op2216           :ethernet card enabler (S.U.P.E.R.)
pd2212 0x62      :packet driver         (S.U.P.E.R.)
dcom2pkt.exe     :non-existent device driver
200              :what's this? :)
Quicken    :start Datacomm
CS         :access configuration for Datacomm
   :setup Datacomm for "Alternate"
bla bla bla      :usual Telnet session from here out

I figure this "non-existent" driver would use a configuration file to
contain local IP and subnet mask, DNS stuff and the usual Telnet support
junk as well as manage the layer (OSI anyone?) that connects Datacomm to
the packet driver.

Ok, I feel better now, thanks. :)
Phil

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> Hmm... Monty Python seems to be popular with the technical crowd. I
wonder
> what percentage of HP DOS palmtop users are Monty Python fans?

Well, I *am* setting up my 200LX to calculate the air-speed velocity of an
unladen swallow...

B.
(Run away! Run away!)

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African or European?

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Well, I *am* setting up my 200LX to calculate the air-speed velocity of an
> unladen swallow...

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:39:45 -0800
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I wouldn't worry about trying to stop a thread once it gets going.  I, for one, was quite educated by the discussion.

About this FoxPro program, you can compile with it?  What are the specs?

Install size?
Minimum install size?
Example processing speeds on LX?
Best version for LX?
Street price for used package?
What formats will it recognize?
What other info should I know about the product?

Don.

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From:   Vaughn Cox ÝSMTP:vaughncox@OZEMAIL.COM.AU¨
Sent:   Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:07 AM
Subject:        Re: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX

Question ? What is the correct etiquette once a message has been posted and
answer received? A single thank you to the mail list or individual
acknowledgements? If I had to process individual acknowledgements  I would
spend far too much time exposed this fandangledelectronicgizzmo.

Vaughn

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:48:06 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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It's 'methylene chloride' and 'polymethacrylic acid' or 'polymethacrylate'.
 Be careful with the methylene chloride - it dissolves just about anything
plastic.

At 18:07 11/12/98 +0100, you wrote:
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : hplx 
>=C0 : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
>Date : jeudi 12 novembre 1998 17:58
>Objet : Re: Hinge crack
>
>
>|A while back, I built a couple of cases out of Plexiglass (tm), and used a
>|solvent to adhere two pieces together.  It was not like super glue or any
>|epoxy.  It had a high vaporization and was extremely fluid, so using it on
>|the LX would be difficult, but it formed the best plastic to plastic seal
>|I've ever seen.  The Plexiglass would break everywhere but at the sealed
>|seams.  And it was not messy, leaving even clear plastic without hardly=
 any
>|deformation or marks.  (I can't vouch for the LX)
>|
>|If anyone knows the name, please let us know.
>
>
>We generally use methyl chloride (hope this direct translation from french
>is correct...) to bond plexiglass because this is THE solvent for=
 plexiglass
>(polymetacrilate in french... I don't even try a translation!).
>Not sure this should be the good one for the plastic that HP used...
>The best way should be beginning from learning what is the plastic to bond
>then determine the right solvent...
>Hope this helps...
>
>Pierre.
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> African or European?

I don't know.
(THWAAAAaaaaaaang!)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bruce Martin              bruce_martin@manulife.com              (416)
218-5819
Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:09:05 -0600
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The config program (xtg_cfg.exe) can be run from the command line.  If
you use F10 from inside Xtree Gold, xtg_cfg.exe must be in the
Xtree directory, and you probably should have started Xtree from that
directory.  If you get messages from Xtree (see Brian's message, below)
with content to the effect of "I can't find something" you need to exit
Xtree and run the xtg_cfg.exe program from the command line.  You can
then correct the file-path and what have you.  Xtpro and Xtree Gold are
almost the same program, I can't recall if the configuration program for
each has the same name.  I have a book about all the Xtree programs and
if you want I will begin keeping it on hand for future support.  I like
Xtree a lot and don't mind doing light research on your questions.

Phil

>XTPro? Is this similiar to XTGold?  If so, you have to set the colors and
>path
>in the setup and save the configuration.  In XTGold you enter setup mode
>with ALT-F10.  I hope this helps you out.
>
>Brian S
>
>>
>>(b) When I tried to execute the help command (F1), I get an error message
>>that says it can't find some file on the C:\XTPRO drive.  Well of course
>>not - I have installed XTPRO on the A:\XTPRO drive.  Any way to correct
>>this?
>

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Alan Peres wrote:
> I changed the HP's date to 11-11-01.
>
> I then went into InfoSelect to see what would happen. I have set it up to
> automatically date new entries. The entries I created all were dated 11-11- 1.
>
> Didn't try any other dates, or do anything fancy like sort by date or
> search by date, but would guess that it will be Y2K compatible.
>
Well, that it comes up as 11-11- 1 does not tell you if the program thinks
the date is 1901 or 2001.  You would need to search or sort by date to see
if the program knows the difference between 1901 and 2001, although it is
helpful to know that at least it will accept input after 2000.

Incidentally, I thought it was a little annoying that on Micro Logic's web
site, the "fix" for all the software that was noncompliant (which included
some pretty recent stuff) was to upgrade to the current version of IS.
Gee, that's really helpful...

Thanks for looking into this.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:50:58 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: Fluffy retort...

Hey peoples, I ain't got nutting against going wit the kroud
and helping out.  If some guy from Mendoza or Baku says
he's having a bad go at it, I kan and wood back off.  How
evers most asinine kriticisms have come from a few bad
natives that like to yank anybodies chain every chance
they get.  Now we knows who dey is.

Actually, no foreigner ever asked any question about
anything, then again I wouldnt either in Baku or
Mendoza as that's the way life is.  A lesson that's
repeated every once in a while all through life, that
there is the 2% you have to contend with. It serves
as a reminder rather as something newly learned.  I
usually go out of my way for foreigners as I (we) are
are always foreigners somewhere.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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No response even with adaptor connected!  Check the screen contrast with
ÝON¨+Ý+¨ and ÝON¨+Ý-¨. Maybe you have the power but you can not see it.
Just an idea...

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Duh - I suppose you can access that when you just loaded Flight Simulator
and your palmtop crashed and locked up???

Jez

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Date:    12/11/98 16:09


At 03:53 PM 11/9/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I could never remember the cold-boot key sequence either.  So I have just
>taken one of those fine felt-tip pens for writing on transparencies and
>written CTRL-LEFTSHIFT-ON inside the battery cover.  Now when I get to that

I've just put it into a notetaker file!

Frans

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:39:42 GMT
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In message <002401be0e06$0ab9e460$d52156d1@ctx>, lbrockman@MINDSPRING.COM said:
>  The problem is I cant figure out how to take the screen apart.

The screen cover with the words "Hewlett Packard 200LX" in the top right hand
corner is held on to the screen with a very mild glue. You can very gently
pry it off with a thin knife, revealing the screws holding the screen under-
neath. Usually you can replace it by just pressing it back into place. Be
VERY CAREFUL not to bend it while prying it loose.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:47:38 GMT
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Subject:      Memo and word wrap
Comments: To: Jeff 

I hate to make promises but having the same problem as mentioned in previous
posts regarding using MEMO to write email, I decided to write a small prog to
word wrap a MEMO file.

I will try to have it ready to send to Mitch by the end of the week.

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<>


Thank you. Didn't know we were that good.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:41:11 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Subject:      External Modem w/ 100LX 

Hi all,

This *SHOULD* be simple, but I've gotten involved in the process and.... ;-)

Trying to use my 100LX w/ an external modem.  It's an unmodified, older 1MB
model w/ a CF Memory card in a PC Card adapter Ýneed to use the memory card
to hold WWW/LX and all my junk while my 200LX is in the shop for another
upgrade

<>¨.

I've purchased the standard, non-null modem serial cable from Thaddeus and
have a Radio Shack 9-to-25 pin adapter ÝI left the part number at home¨ but
think it's designed for this.  The modem is an externally powered Zoom 28.8
Kbps fax/data modem and I've got it powered and the lights come on. Phone
line check's out too.

Can't get the program to recognize the modem.

I've got null modem adapters, and the null modem serial cable, IF I need it
to switch things; but I was under the impression that this should be a
straight forward thing.

Also, I've gone into setup and messed w/ the COM1 options.  I've tried it by
both checking and not checking "Enable Com1 Port in DOS" and set the
IO/Interrupt to what I believe are default for a normal COM1:

  I/O = 03F8
  INT = 4

Am I on the right track?

TIA,

--tim

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:37:53 GMT
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I've had this problem once, tried even to re-boot after
pulling the main batteries but finally decided to send my
Palmtop for repairs to HP (without batteries). The day after I
got a call to ask why I had sent the LX for repairs. It was
perfectly working! They could not find any reason for the
problem I described... Perhaps a Palmtom needs a longer rest
without batteries when it badly hangs up. Whish you the same
amazing result.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:56:57 -0800
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Jean-Pierre Beekhuis wrote:

> I've had this problem once, tried even to re-boot after
> pulling the main batteries but finally decided to send my
> Palmtop for repairs to HP (without batteries). The day after I
> got a call to ask why I had sent the LX for repairs. It was
> perfectly working! They could not find any reason for the
> problem I described... Perhaps a Palmtom needs a longer rest
> without batteries when it badly hangs up. Whish you the same
> amazing result.

I had the same problem with my second 200LX about a month after I got it
in 1996.  I had put the batteries in backwards and tried to turn it on.
Switching them didn't help.  AC didn't help.  None of the key combinations
worked.  Eventually I went out in a panic and bought a new one, and by the
next morning the old palmtop was as good as new.  Good thing I saved the
receipt for the new one...

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:06:06 -0500
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>FAT16 and FAT32 refers to much more than just the size ofthe fat.
>These names are the normal way of refering to the filesystem
>structure which includes the way that directories are organized, what
>information is stored about the files and how the space is allocated.

Ah, I see, what you're referring to as FAT32 is what Microsoft refers to =
as VFAT (Virtual FAT). I have been absolutely unable to locate _any_ =
reference (including MSDN Library and TechNet) which says that disks =
which are FDISKed to the 32 bit FAT have different directory structures =
from those which have 16 bit or 12 bit FAT tables with respect to =
storing the file names and time stamps. I would be delighted to see an =
expansion on the subject, with references.

>There are many filesystems, NTFS, HPFS, EXT2, Minix, Xenix, FAT12,
>FAT16 and FAT32, and they all are different in various ways. The
>FATxx filesystems do share alot of structure similarities since they
>have evolved from the original FAT filesystem that DOS used. The extra
>date information is an extension that is unique to FAT32, it does not
>exist in FAT16 or below, only the modification date is stored in
>them. The long filename support that win95 overlays on "normal" FAT16
>is a hack to accomidate older DOS and WIN16 programs while appearing
>to add functionality to the filesystem.
>
The main point, however, remains: Win32 applications support, through =
the operating system (NT3.5 or later, Win95 or later), create, modify, =
and access times on _all_ FAT-type and NTFS disks, including floppies, =
through a series of new function calls added to INT21 (#71xx). These are =
_not_ the same as the functions in the FAT32 API, which exists to =
provide low level disk access support. These function calls are defined, =
and could be reverse-engineered to provide long file name support on a =
DOS-based pc, including the LX, either as a device driver, TSR, shell, =
or within a custom app. However, any "normal" 16-bit access to the file =
would not be reflected, and any time the file was re-written, re-named, =
or moved by a DOS-16 app, the long file name and attributes would be =
lost. Disk compression would probably break the LFN support, too. You =
can demonstrate LFN support by copying some files with long file names =
onto your flash card, then looking at their file properties, moving them =
back to the LX, playing around with them, and looking at them again =
under Win9x.

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:34:50 -0500
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 > Is anybody on this list going to attend Comdex in Las Vegas?

Count me in, David.  I'll be the one wearing a long trenchcoat, a scarf,
sunglasses and a low riding fedora hat...
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OK, David is meeting me at my motel, Saturday, at 6PM, and we will go
for dinner.
Anyone who will be in Las Vegas is welcome to join us.

Right now I have reservations at Budget Suites, 1500 Stardust Rd,
800-752-1501.  We will meet there, although there is a chance I will
switch hotels.

Hal from Thaddeus

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I purchased a new 200lx in March, and found the lid to be extremely tight.
I pulled the right hinge cap and CAREFULLY placed a couple of drops of WD40
inside the hinge, aimed at the steel pin.  The cover now works very smooth,
still stays where it should and I have not noticed any ill effects from
this.  I was prompted to do this because a) it was starting to crack, and b)
the hinge cover split.  I ordered a pair of the little covers from Mr.
Palmtop for $10.00 for the pair. I replaced the broken one and now have a
spare if it happens again.  Since I used the WD40 the crack does not appear
to have gotten any worse and the cover works much better.

John Guenther

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              Ed Padin 
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I agree that Foxpro is a great choice if you want to take the time to
learn a great product. It's a little slow on a 1-speed LX but fine on 2x
with a decent flash card. It requires almost 2 MBS of storage. I used to
be a full time Foxpro programmer. I prefer it because I can make it
sing.

If you don't have time for a learning curve then mebbe Q&A or Rbase
would be a better choice. Paradox is also kinda good because it seems
to(no first-hand experience) have the friendly front-end while also
having a powerful programming language.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paal Rasmussen Ýmailto:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 2:47 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ SV: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX
>
>
> Al!
> This is unfair!!!
> I SPECIFICALLY recomended (shouting, nudging you in the ribs whilst
> grinning) FOXPRO, not Foxbase, dbase, etc for EXACTLY that reason!
> Foxpro has a large help file, has several "GUI" windows
> popping up on you
> when you fire it up, and is as intuitive as database
> management will ever
> be.
> It is fast, (even on the LX) and it doesn't stop you from building
> industrial strength applications should you so desire.
> I really hate s/w that limits my freedom - I didn't get an LX to be
> hindered in what I do - I want real database power, not some
> braindead s/w
> that replaces my Rolodex. (Never had one of those BTW, but
> I've seen one -
> that was enough!)
> Serious dept:
> Foxpro is not difficult to learn, runs on the LX, and even lets you do
> event based programming in a GUI environment easily ported to Windo$se
> should you so desire. The basic manual is included in the
> help files, and
> you can pick up a good book anywhere good books are sold.
> So there!
>
> Friendly (but stern) greetings from
> Paul Rasmussen
> CEO - The Foxpro preservation society.
>
> ----------
> > Fra: al chin 
> > Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Emne: Re: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX
> > Dato: 12. november 1998 14:54
> >
> > Stan the man
> > Of the three viable DBs (DBIII, PC FILE, and Paradox
> > I'd recomend PARADOX.  People here recommend
> > using DBIII because they're familar with it (It wuz the first
> > major DB on the mkt like Wordstar).  If yu don't know
> > nuthing about it, yu kant make it work.  It gives a blank
> > screen asking for a commnd. If yu don't have a manual,
> > yu have to be smarter than me :)
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              Ed Padin 
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I think that all those NECX card readers are gone. I didn't see them in
the outlet section. There's some guy selling them now for $25... I
forget where but he advertized in the Libretto mailing list.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: KJH Ýmailto:kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 1:15 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ NECX $10 pc card readers and linux
>
>
> Just thought I'd pass on that the $10 pc card readers from
> NECX, mentioned
> earlier in this list, are recognized and supported by Linux as well as
> Windows 95 - so one could use the Linux LX transfer tools to
> backup your HP
> ...
>
> regards,
> kurt
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Right after I posted the note about 6:00 Saturday palmtop user dinner,
my reservations did change.  We will meet at my hotel (still Budget
Suites), but at 3684 Paradise Road., 702 699 7000.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:23:52 +0000
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Correct, the RIGHT hinge is where the friction occurs and where oil (to
loosen) and 'solvent' (to tighten) is applied.


The left hinge is merely a pivot point (and the screen cable runs
through it).

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re: thin plastic fix or ....

> Any experimenters?

Actually, there is a guy who wrote to comp.sys.whatever with a similar
idea but used very thin brass strips and even crimped the edge to wrap
where the case indents near the hinge.  He had attached (anathema) a
binary file to his message showing a neat looking fix as he applied it
to both hinges for symmetry.  The "fixes" become contrasting brass
adornments for the HP kind of matching the HP label in the lower left of
the lid.  He epoxied the brass to the hp.

I could try and write him and see if he would be willing to have the
photo posted on the supersite with his instructions.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:24:05 +0000
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What com program are you trying to use?

Do you use Buddy and is the serial port ON?

Have you configured the com program to use com1?

Are you sure you have a NULL modem adapter?  The kit comes with several
adapters and they are not all alike (altho, I've never known what
special things the PRINTER adapter does???).  Some are just gender
changes and not NULL.

Oh, and I seem to recall having IR set in Filer can sometimes do things
to other com issues.

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On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:36:52 -0600, Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

>Help.  I use Microsoft Exchange on a laptop to compose, read and send =
most of my e-mail. Exchnage automatically word wraps the messages as I =
compose out-going messages or read in-coming messages.
>I've been told by one person that my messages to the HPLX listserve show=
 up as one continuous line (without word wrap).  I don't know if theis a =
function of using MIME encoded messages instead of UUENCODE, or some =
other profile issue.
>Can anyone help or make a suggestion.

Obviously Exchange assumes the recipient will use a mail client which =
word
wraps the incoming message lines. This is bad behaviour, but par for the
course with Micro$oft products. There may be a setting somewhere to make =
it
insert hard carriage returns on each line. Alternatively, you will have =
to
learn to hit the return key at a sensible line length.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:51:38 -0500
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There used to programs that worked with packet drivers to redirect the
com port to telnet. I remember Novell Lan workplace had this. I think
there may be versions for regular ol' packet drivers. It won't work with
programs that bypass the BIOS for accessing the com port.

>
> What I want is a way to use Datacomm as the "front end" for a Telnet
> session.  Imagine the following...
>
> c:>
> op2216           :ethernet card enabler (S.U.P.E.R.)
> pd2212 0x62      :packet driver         (S.U.P.E.R.)
> dcom2pkt.exe     :non-existent device driver
> 200              :what's this? :)
> Quicken    :start Datacomm
> CS         :access configuration for Datacomm
>    :setup Datacomm for "Alternate"
> bla bla bla      :usual Telnet session from here out
>
> I figure this "non-existent" driver would use a configuration file to
> contain local IP and subnet mask, DNS stuff and the usual
> Telnet support
> junk as well as manage the layer (OSI anyone?) that connects
> Datacomm to
> the packet driver.
>
> Ok, I feel better now, thanks. :)
> Phil
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> for the course with Micro$oft products. There may be a setting
> somewhere to make it insert hard carriage returns on each line.
> Alternatively, you will have to learn to hit the return key at a
> sensible line length.

Unfortunately, manually inserting hard returns can cause ugliness in mail
readers that DO wrap the lines. It can create this look:

This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a
test.This is a
test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a
test.This is a

etc.  I'm not sure there's any solution to the problem.  I guess ideally,
all clients would wrap the lines automatically, but that's not the case.
Just one of those pesky annoyances we have to live with...

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:03:35 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Re: External Modem w/ 100LX 
Comments: To: "fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET" 

        Thanks - LOTS to think about:

        >What com program are you trying to use?

        Trying many - the one I had the GREATEST hope for is WWW/LX as most
all of my ISPs don't do well with a straight dial-up Ýthey want PPP, etc.¨.

        > Do you use Buddy and is the serial port ON?

        I forgot about Buddy, yes I use it and I will check!

        > Have you configured the com program to use com1?

        Yes

        > Are you sure you have a NULL modem adapter?  The kit comes with
several

        Actually, I'm using the serial cable _without_ the null modem
adapter, I thought I needed that to go straight into a modem Ýdoesn't the
null modem cross SEND/RCVE so you can go computer-to-computer WITHOUT a
modem?¨  I've built a few and all the interesting things I used for computer
to modem were pass through .

        > Oh, and I seem to recall having IR set in Filer can sometimes do
things

         I *Think* that's OK, but will work w/ that too!

        Thanks a million!

        ---tim

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Foxbase will save memory, and is faster but sports the old dBase user i/f,
ie just like a REAL mainframe computer of old times. Yes, its just a dot.
The feeling of awe when you first see it! And the glorious feeling of power
when you could command that litle dot to sift through thousands of records
performing calculations and doing relational algebra on the way!
Ah! Bring back Marilyn Monroe!
Even Cindy is spoken for now!
Nice to know some things never change!

Non fluff section: I will dig out my old foxbase disks and an old 5 1/4"
drive, punch in the arcane copy protection figures (with 1 and l's confused
through the carbon paper) and see how that performs on the lx.

Regards from
Paul - no I'm not an octagonarian - Rasmussen

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> Fra: Ed Padin 
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Databases (was: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX)
> Dato: 12. november 1998 22:56
>
> I agree that Foxpro is a great choice if you want to take the time to
> learn a great product. It's a little slow on a 1-speed LX but fine on 2x
> with a decent flash card. It requires almost 2 MBS of storage. I used to
> be a full time Foxpro programmer. I prefer it because I can make it
> sing.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:34:52 -0500
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LOL! Yeah I know what you mean about the little dot... whoofa! Once you
learn all the commands that can be used it's not that bad. The command
language is very english-like. I remember some very non technical people
used to use the Dbase dot without a problem. Even Dbase and Foxbase had
some limited menu ... I think it was the "assist" command.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paal Rasmussen Ýmailto:paal@AH.TELIA.NO¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 6:27 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Databases (was: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the
> 200LX)
>
>
> Foxbase will save memory, and is faster but sports the old
> dBase user i/f,
> ie just like a REAL mainframe computer of old times. Yes, its
> just a dot.
> The feeling of awe when you first see it! And the glorious
> feeling of power
> when you could command that litle dot to sift through
> thousands of records
> performing calculations and doing relational algebra on the way!
> Ah! Bring back Marilyn Monroe!
> Even Cindy is spoken for now!
> Nice to know some things never change!
>
> Non fluff section: I will dig out my old foxbase disks and an
> old 5 1/4"
> drive, punch in the arcane copy protection figures (with 1
> and l's confused
> through the carbon paper) and see how that performs on the lx.
>
> Regards from
> Paul - no I'm not an octagonarian - Rasmussen
>
> ----------
> > Fra: Ed Padin 
> > Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Emne: Databases (was: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX)
> > Dato: 12. november 1998 22:56
> >
> > I agree that Foxpro is a great choice if you want to take
> the time to
> > learn a great product. It's a little slow on a 1-speed LX
> but fine on 2x
> > with a decent flash card. It requires almost 2 MBS of
> storage. I used to
> > be a full time Foxpro programmer. I prefer it because I can make it
> > sing.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:56:19 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Review: Old 3D space shooter game works great on LX
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> > Considering that this is a "family" list, I should also add that one of
> > the versions had a opening screen which ... lacks decorum. As a
> > non-family man, I found it very funny. You are warned.
>
> ?? Really ??
> I must have missed this version, no naughty opening screens appeared in
> either of the two versions I tried.
> I'll have to go back and look at the others (purely in the interest of
> research, of course).
LOL! It's not naughty in that way, though.

I've played with the 1.52 version of Linwars now, and it really is
quite good! Nice, fast 3D graphics. Though, as the docs say, you
really need to play it against someone. (it knows how to talk to your
modem).

Anyone in Melbourne care for a game?

--
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:42:22 -0800, David Sargeant  =
wrote:

> Is anybody on this list going to attend Comdex in Las Vegas?  We should
> have a get-together.  I know Hal is going to be here, and Bernie Torbik =
of
> Shore Systems will be here on Tuesday.  Anybody else?

Let me get this right! We got:

David Sargeant
Bernie Torbik
Bill Vickerman
Hal Goldstein
HPLX

Hell! Count me in, I wouldn't miss this for nothing in the world. Is ED
coming Hal?

BTW: Is anybody attending the Microsoft eXtreme live satellite
broadcast on Saturday ( 10:00 AM) at the Stardust?



Regards,

Qman...

Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:30:17 -0800
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:19:19 -0500, Ed Padin  wrote:

> I think that all those NECX card readers are gone. I didn't see them in
> the outlet section. There's some guy selling them now for $25... I
> forget where but he advertized in the Libretto mailing list.

Are you sure? I just got one a few weeks back.

BTW: I also saw that post for $25.00 around the same time that I placed =
my
order with NECX.

Regards,

Qman...

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              Alan Peres 
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Subject:      Re: Info Select and Y2K (also Notepad program)
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>>
>Well, that it comes up as 11-11- 1 does not tell you if the program thinks
>the date is 1901 or 2001.  You would need to search or sort by date to see
>if the program knows the difference between 1901 and 2001, although it is
>helpful to know that at least it will accept input after 2000.
>

From what I can tell, IS only deals with 2 digit dates. Because I do not do
anything fancy that is all I need. I know I never created an entry before
1995, for example. The way I have my data set up I never sort by dates. I
may search by dates, but I create a separate file for each month, so I am
only searching within a month. Therefore, I doubt that it matters to me, at
least, whether 11-11- 1 is 1901 or 2001.


>Incidentally, I thought it was a little annoying that on Micro Logic's web
>site, the "fix" for all the software that was noncompliant (which included
>some pretty recent stuff) was to upgrade to the current version of IS.
>Gee, that's really helpful...

Their fix is the same fix as many other software suppliers...upgrade to a
newer version. If you want to try IS out and make sure any particular
version is Y2K compliant, download it and try it for the 30 or 60 day trial
period. If you don't like it, or it does not do what you want, or isn't
compliant enough, return it and use your money back guarantee. (and that is
something few software vendors have!).

Alan

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:17:38 -0500
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              Jim Krist 
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>>I suppose you can access that when you just loaded Flight Simulator
and your palmtop crashed and locked up???<<

Exactly the problem that led me to pull the AA batteries.

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              Jim Krist 
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'assist' puts you into a menu front-end to create commands for dbaseIII -
never face the . alone!

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              Steven Lawson 
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Bummer, wish I was going!  Probably not a room as far as Stateline
left (er, sorry - "Prim, NV")..

> Let me get this right! We got:
>
> David Sargeant
> Bernie Torbik
> Bill Vickerman
> Hal Goldstein
> HPLX

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Rats!  I won't be in Vagas 'til Dec. 17th.

I don't suppose you can push the show out that far ??????

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Ý re: hard returns and line wrapping ¨
> etc.  I'm not sure there's any solution to the problem.  I guess ideally,
> all clients would wrap the lines automatically, but that's not the case.
> Just one of those pesky annoyances we have to live with...

A solution is to insert hard returns well before you get to eighty
characters.  This will make your mail easily readable to the widest
audience.

Another hint is to use a blank line, *not* indentation, to separate
paragraphs because some clever clients will re-format the entire
block of text for you.

Eric

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:42:25 GMT
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david@HPLX.NET said:
>
> Unfortunately, manually inserting hard returns can cause ugliness in mail
> readers that DO wrap the lines. It can create this look:
>
> This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a
> test.This is a
> test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a
> test.This is a
>
> etc.  I'm not sure there's any solution to the problem.

If you manually insert hard returns after about 70 characters, you
should have no trouble with most any display.

Ted

--
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From:         Frank McConnell 
Subject:      Re: Databases (was: 16,000 row spreadsheet and the 200LX)
In-Reply-To:  Paal Rasmussen's message of Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:27:20 +0100

Paal Rasmussen  wrote:
> Non fluff section: I will dig out my old foxbase disks and an old 5 1/4"
> drive, punch in the arcane copy protection figures (with 1 and l's confused
> through the carbon paper) and see how that performs on the lx.

Worked fine for me.  Microsoft-labelled FoxPro 2.0.  But I cheated a
little bit -- I used a notebook PC to copy all the files from the
(3.5") installation disks to a single directory on a flash card, then
I put the flash card in the palmtop and ran INSTALL.EXE from there.

-Frank McConnell

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Well, I know a 2X LX has the juice to convert midi to pcm and play it, =
but
what would be the odds of decoding MP3? These are popping up everywhere =
on
thhe NET. The size of these is about 10 times compressed compared to .WAV
and sound good. I would assume that KHz is still relavent as far as =
output
rate is concerned, So, can thiss MP3 stuff be decoded to mono 11KHz or
something to play thru the speaker?

Darren.

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> > David Sargeant
> > Bernie Torbik
> > Bill Vickerman
> > Hal Goldstein
> > HPLX

Will somebody please take a picture or otherwise ID the infamous HPLX .

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:35:12 +1100
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Even a single speed can play a wav file, reasonably OK.

Decoding MP3 is probably fast enough to do on-the-fly; but even if not,
decoding could be done in a first phase to create a wav, which is then
played.

So: Yes. But that's just the theory.

Anyone got a program to actually do the conversion?

> So, can thiss MP3 stuff be decoded to mono 11KHz or
> something to play thru the speaker?

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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote:

> Will somebody please take a picture or otherwise ID the infamous HPLX
> 

Apparently, HPLX was joking.  He won't be there to join us. (My guess is
he's safely tucked away on a tropical island with a satellite T1 link.
)

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Theodore Heise wrote:

> If you manually insert hard returns after about 70 characters, you
> should have no trouble with most any display.

True... except for maybe a zoomed palmtop display.  Ironic, isn't it.

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              Jeff Johns 
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Comments: To: david@hplx.net

On 11-12 10:42pm, the following was written:

> Apparently, HPLX was joking.  He won't be there to join us. (My guess is
> he's safely tucked away on a tropical island with a satellite T1 link.
> )

Hey... the satellite thing is mine :) By the way off the subject but for all
the hams on the list make sure to listen to Sputnik41/RS18 before the
batteries die in a couple of weeks. It was hand launched from Mir 3 days
ago. It has 3 or 4 voice messages in 3 languages and a recording of the
original Sputnik 1 "beep beep" that scared the heck out of America in the
50's. I've already sent for my QSL card.

Back on the subject of COMDEX.... have fun guys, wish I could be there!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:15:46 -0800
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              Ian Butler 
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Even a single speed can play a wav file, reasonably OK.
>
> Decoding MP3 is probably fast enough to do on-the-fly; but even if not,
> decoding could be done in a first phase to create a wav, which is then
> played.
>
> So: Yes. But that's just the theory.
>
> Anyone got a program to actually do the conversion?

My $.02 ($.035 in Canada):

As an avid MP3er, I recently tried to get WinAmp, DOSAmp, and Open CP to
play MP3's on an old 486SX that I rescued from certain death in the
hellish depths of the Boulder City Dump.  While quite possibly the most
powerful 486SX-33 on the face of the earth (20M RAM, 400M hard disk space,
and an AWE32 with 2M of onboard memory), it had serious trouble even
starting to decode MP3s.  In short, they take a LOT of processing power,
and that's the last resource the 200LX has much of.

FYI, WinAmp played at about 1 second to every four seconds of calculations
(p.. r.. e.. tty j.. e....rky), and OpenCP and DOSAmp immediately crashed
due to the lack of an FPU.  This tells me that MP3 decoding needs some
serious floating point power.  I do know this Am486-80 decodes MP3s just
fine, but without an FPU, and without the -80, (or the Am486, even :) it's
unlikely at best.  If you had a special non-FPU decoder and tons of disk
space, you could write it all to a wave file and play it back using the
normal utilities, though.

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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        If the shoe fits, buy the other one too.

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:55:45 -0700
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              Tony Uranga 
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Subject:      Spanish software for 200LX
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Hi.  My name is Tony Uranga, and I've got a question for all the LX =
guru's out there.

I've had my 200LX for almost 5 years now, and after seeing a pocket =
Spanish translator that a friend has, I thought a Spanish translator or =
dictionary that would run on the LX would be very useful for me.  I've =
searched all over the net, including the SUPER site, but haven't found =
anything that I liked very much.  Does anyone out there have any =
suggestions.  I don't really want to spend a ton of money, but I =
wouldn't mind paying for something that I would use a lot.  Thanks in =
advance for any recomendations or leads.

TU

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Hi.  My name is Tony Uranga, =
and I've got a=20
question for all the LX guru's out there.


 


I've had my 200LX for almost 5 years =
now, and=20
after seeing a pocket Spanish translator that a friend has, I thought a =
Spanish=20
translator or dictionary that would run on the LX would be very useful =
for=20
me.  I've searched all over the net, including the SUPER site, but =
haven't=20
found anything that I liked very much.  Does anyone out there have =
any=20
suggestions.  I don't really want to spend a ton of money, but I =
wouldn't=20
mind paying for something that I would use a lot.  Thanks in =
advance for=20
any recomendations or leads.


 


TU


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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:15:52 +0100
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              Etienne LEMAIRE 
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Have a look at :
http://www.windi7.com
There 's a free download (29000 words) for 7 languages, but to have
clipboard, voice and grammar functions you have to pay. I think there's a
dos-version
Etienne Lemaire
37  H.Boulengerlaan
B-3080 TERVUREN
stelem@ibm.net
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:51:28 -0300
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From:         Pablo KIM 
Subject:      Beeper + HPLX = Very loud alarm sound!!!
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Hi!

Because the HPLX 200 has a very low level alarm sound so imperceptible when
I'm in the city with much traffic, I have had a "bright" hacking-idea.

It's simply an implating of a Motorola beeper piezoelectric speaker.
(Also the vibra call method)
What I want to know is it's viability and making this hacking.
Is the beeper consume a lot of battery?
What do you -"the HPLX hacker"- think about my idea?

Pablo KIM
from Argentina

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Hi!

First, thank you for your various suggestions.

Finally I will use WP 5.0 or MS WORKS 2.0 for chemical reporting.
If anyone have used these software please tell me about of:
    1.speed, which is speedier?
    2.total file size?
    3.easy user interface?
    4.interchangeability text file format?

Thank you again in advance!!!

Pablo KIM

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Hi!

Are there any utility to read RTF with super and suscript characters on my
HPLX200 palmtop?

TIA!

Pablo KIM

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> The new products will be demonstrated at COMDEX in Las Vegas, NV, November
> 16-20 at the SanDisk booth, Las Vegas Convention Center , North Hall, L-6470.
> Some sample pricing in high volume OEM capacities:
>  96MB CompactFlash card, $220
> 440MB Type II PC card,   $895

Those of you going to COMDEX, could you please check if the
440MB card works in the palmtop and if it has a delay after
power on? Would also be nice to find out it's allocation unit
size by doing a CHKDSK. And indeed I'd like to know, what they
understand under 'high volume'.

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Comments:     Originally-From: jim@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
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Subject:      WinServer BBS

DS>I just saw a BBS listing in my area using WinServer BBS software.  It =
  >stated that it was "fully Web browser compliant, this is the future of =
  >BBSing."  Has anyone used this type of BBS?  I don't own WWW/LX so I =
  >cant test if HV would work.  It may only be Windows browser compliant, =
  >but it would be interesting to find out.

I don't see why www/lx or HV would NOT work.  WinServer is much more
like a real BBS than other web servers, in that it links to the real BBS
and lets you access all the message bases from the FTN nets like
FidoNet, RIME, Intelec, etc.  These are generally much higher quality
discussion areas than what you see in UseNet and email lists.  You'll
find no spam, no xxx, and none of the  vast over-quoting you see in
newsgroups and email lists, for it just isn't tolerated.  Result is a
much higher signal to noise ratio.

Jim

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Quinton Jones Jr wrote:
>
> On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:42:22 -0800, David Sargeant  wrote:
>
> > Is anybody on this list going to attend Comdex in Las Vegas?  We should
> > have a get-together.  I know Hal is going to be here, and Bernie Torbik of
> > Shore Systems will be here on Tuesday.  Anybody else?
>
> Let me get this right! We got:
>
> David Sargeant
> Bernie Torbik
> Bill Vickerman
> Hal Goldstein
> HPLX

I'd like to suggest that you guys get someone to take your picture as a
group and post it to the SUPER site.

--
73

Nick Marsh
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:57:23 -0600
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> Ý re: hard returns and line wrapping ¨
>
> Another hint is to use a blank line, *not* indentation, to separate
> paragraphs because some clever clients will re-format the entire
> block of text for you.

Make sure this blank line is *really* blank - that it, a CR/LF (or just
LF on the UNIX system).  No spaces or blanks in it, or some of these
clever clients might still be tripped up.

--

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What's the frequency of that satellite Mir tossed out?
I have the receiver, but I'm not HAM so I don't "hang" with the right
crowd to know those freq.'s off-hand.

Phil

>
>Hey... the satellite thing is mine :) By the way off the subject but for all
>the hams on the list make sure to listen to Sputnik41/RS18 before the
>batteries die in a couple of weeks. It was hand launched from Mir 3 days
>ago. It has 3 or 4 voice messages in 3 languages and a recording of the
>original Sputnik 1 "beep beep" that scared the heck out of America in the
>50's. I've already sent for my QSL card.
>
>Back on the subject of COMDEX.... have fun guys, wish I could be there!
>
>73 Jeff
>
>

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FYI the cable used (most often) by all of us "palmtoppers" is already a
null-modem.  You need to put another null-modem adapter in there to
"cancel out" the null condition for modem use.  The cable is set-up for
Palmtop to PC transfer.

Phil
(don't lose that Amiga! :)


>
>        Actually, I'm using the serial cable _without_ the null modem
>adapter, I thought I needed that to go straight into a modem Ýdoesn't the
>null modem cross SEND/RCVE so you can go computer-to-computer WITHOUT a
>modem?¨  I've built a few and all the interesting things I used for computer
>to modem were pass through modem w/ an Amiga once and if I used an off-the-shelf adapter, the Amiga's
>serial port would've passed 5v somewhere VERY bad for a normal modem -- all
>I had to do was avoid connecting the power portion and all worked fine>.
>
>
>
>        ---tim
>

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=A0<< I thought a Spanish translator or dictionary that would run on =
the
LX would be very useful for me.=A0 I've searched all over the net,
including the SUPER site, but haven't found anything that I liked very
much.=A0 Does anyone out there have any suggestions. >>
=A0

We sell a nice product that does Spanish, German,=A0 French and Italian
(you need only install the languages you want).=A0 You can check out =
the
multilingual dictionary at www.PalmtopPaper.com.=A0 David Sargeant does =
an
independent review at www.hplx.net.=A0 It's $59.95.

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Ed Keefe doesn't like to travel (and I'm to cheap to pay for his
ticket).

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:17:47 -0800
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If you want a commercial product, check out the Collins Multilingual
Dictionary from Thaddeus.  I have a review posted on my site
(www.hplx.net) as well.  It does four languages: Spanish, German, Italian,
French, all to and from English.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:44:21 -0500
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I had one a little while ago but I took it off due to lack of space and
lack of use. I think it was called "entsp" or something like that. I
don't know where I got it but try Simtel and Super.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Uranga Ýmailto:Tony_Uranga@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 12:56 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Spanish software for 200LX


Hi.=A0 My name is Tony Uranga, and I've got a question for all the LX
guru's out there.
=A0
I've had my 200LX for almost 5 years now, and after seeing a pocket
Spanish translator that a friend has, I thought a Spanish translator or
dictionary that would run on the LX would be very useful for me.=A0 =
I've
searched all over the net, including the SUPER site, but haven't found
anything that I liked very much.=A0 Does anyone out there have any
suggestions.=A0 I don't really want to spend a ton of money, but I
wouldn't mind paying for something that I would use a lot.=A0 Thanks in
advance for any recomendations or leads.
=A0
TU

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:48:23 -0500
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My parole officer said I can't go.... bummer!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Johns Ýmailto:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 11:47 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Comdex attendees?
>
>
> On 11-12 10:42pm, the following was written:
>
> > Apparently, HPLX was joking.  He won't be there to join us.
> (My guess is
> > he's safely tucked away on a tropical island with a
> satellite T1 link.
> > )
>
> Hey... the satellite thing is mine :) By the way off the
> subject but for all
> the hams on the list make sure to listen to Sputnik41/RS18 before the
> batteries die in a couple of weeks. It was hand launched from
> Mir 3 days
> ago. It has 3 or 4 voice messages in 3 languages and a
> recording of the
> original Sputnik 1 "beep beep" that scared the heck out of
> America in the
> 50's. I've already sent for my QSL card.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:33:58 -0800
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Nick Marsh wrote:

> I'd like to suggest that you guys get someone to take your picture as
> a group and post it to the SUPER site.

Unfortunately, I think that most of the visitors will be here on different
days.  Maybe I can do a little photo-editing on the computer and "create"
a group photo.  

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Those of you going to COMDEX, could you please check if the 440MB card
> works in the palmtop and if it has a delay after power on? Would also
> be nice to find out it's allocation unit size by doing a CHKDSK. And
> indeed I'd like to know, what they understand under 'high volume'.

Good thinking!  I'll be sure to stop by there (assuming my darn Comdex ID
badge arrives in the mail in the next two days!!! ) and check out the
new cards.

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I think we should put in a vibrator. I would then stick it in my front
pocket and go out dancing....Whoofa!


No Fluff section
----------------
Actually, I would love to be able to get a pager card. I recently played
around with those new Skytel Qwerty keyboard pagers. The thing is a
little packet radio that let's you send and receive Internet Email over
the airways. It's smaller than a pack of cigarettes. I know there are
people doing stuff like this on the LX but you have to use that big MHZ
radio card. It would be better to have a small PCMCIA card with its own
built in antenna. Mebbe the antenna could be a little dangling wire....
hrmph! dream on.

BTW: Do you guys know that the Nokia communicator is now available in
the U.S.? I saw one in a Cell Phone store. The teenager behind the
counter didn't know much about it except the price. two large!! (That's
$2000). Does anyone know more?



> -----Original Messa
> -----Original Messa
> -----Original Messa
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pablo KIM Ýmailto:hanacom@FEEDBACK.NET.AR¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 4:51 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Beeper + HPLX = Very loud alarm sound!!!
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Because the HPLX 200 has a very low level alarm sound so
> imperceptible when
> I'm in the city with much traffic, I have had a "bright" hacking-idea.
>
> It's simply an implating of a Motorola beeper piezoelectric speaker.
> (Also the vibra call method)
> What I want to know is it's viability and making this hacking.
> Is the beeper consume a lot of battery?
> What do you -"the HPLX hacker"- think about my idea?
>
> Pablo KIM
> from Argentina

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:37:16 -0600
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> What's the frequency of that satellite Mir tossed out?
> I have the receiver, but I'm not HAM so I don't "hang" with the right
> crowd to know those freq.'s off-hand.

145.815MHz FM  for the start of the pass then you will have to adjust the
frequency down as the satellite goes overhead to adjust for the doppler
effect!

73 Jeff

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> What's the frequency of that satellite Mir tossed out?
> I have the receiver, but I'm not HAM so I don't "hang" with the right
> crowd to know those freq.'s off-hand.

Ooops forgot to mention that info is available at www.amsat.org

73 Jeff

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> Ed Keefe doesn't like to travel (and I'm to cheap to pay for his
> ticket).

You mean he won't drive?  C'mon, it's only fifteen hundred miles!  

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That's a great Idea.  I'll try that with my DBIV disks and see if that workds.

-----Original Message-----
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Worked fine for me.  Microsoft-labelled FoxPro 2.0.  But I cheated a
little bit -- I used a notebook PC to copy all the files from the
(3.5") installation disks to a single directory on a flash card, then
I put the flash card in the palmtop and ran INSTALL.EXE from there.

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While the discussion on data bases is great, getting hold of DOS databases
is very difficult.
Where can you obtain these programs?
DBIII
FoxBase
Alpha4
Paradox
Others?
The manufactures do not offer them that I can find and since they are
copyrighted they are not available on the internet.
A good user friendly data base would be great.  I have @base, but it is not
very user friendly.
Jim Sanders

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>> I suppose you can access that when you just loaded Flight Simulator
>> and your palmtop crashed and locked up???<<

> Exactly the problem that led me to pull the AA batteries.

Does this mean there is a problem running MS Flight Simulator on a 200LX?
Has anybody accomplished this, and if so, what are the caveats?

B.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:10:31 -0600
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:

> Does this mean there is a problem running MS Flight Simulator on a 200LX?
> Has anybody accomplished this, and if so, what are the caveats?

I have sucessfully fun MS Flight Simulator on my LX, in fact I sold a
copy I found a flea market to another list member sometime back.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:15:10 -0500
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I have a really old copy that seems to work. I played with it a few
times and them del*.* to make room for other stuff.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce Martin Ýmailto:Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 11:45 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ MS Flight Simulator?
>
>
> >> I suppose you can access that when you just loaded Flight Simulator
> >> and your palmtop crashed and locked up???<<
>
> > Exactly the problem that led me to pull the AA batteries.
>
> Does this mean there is a problem running MS Flight Simulator
> on a 200LX?
> Has anybody accomplished this, and if so, what are the caveats?
>
> B.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:18:22 -0500
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Try http://www.recycledsoftware.com


They have lots of old softwares and, more importantly, those books ya
can't get anymore.

I see right now that they have R:Base and Paradox 4.5/DOS. If you call
them they may have stuff not listed.

Good Luck.


BTW: There's always Ebay...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James O. Sanders, M.D. Ýmailto:jsanders@ERIE.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 12:03 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ database
>
>
> While the discussion on data bases is great, getting hold of
> DOS databases
> is very difficult.
> Where can you obtain these programs?
> DBIII
> FoxBase
> Alpha4
> Paradox
> Others?
> The manufactures do not offer them that I can find and since they are
> copyrighted they are not available on the internet.
> A good user friendly data base would be great.  I have @base,
> but it is not
> very user friendly.
> Jim Sanders
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:25:07 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?query=foxpro&maxR
ecordsReturned=300&maxRecordsPerPage=50&SortProperty=MetaEndSort

Woof! that's a big link. if it doesn't work then just search for Foxpro.
There's a 2.5 for DOS version with a high bid of $8.50. I like Foxpro
but YMMV.


Later

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:29:08 -0600
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Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
a .tar file?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:26:28 -0800
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Which Version?

-----Original Message-----
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To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: MS Flight Simulator?

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:


I have sucessfully fun MS Flight Simulator on my LX, in fact I sold a
copy I found a flea market to another list member sometime back.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:45:07 -0700
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tar -xvf

you might also try
 man tar



On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote:

> Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
> a .tar file?
>
> 73 Jeff
>
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:47:02 -0800
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Your have @base?  Was it expensive?  I remember seing it advertised for =
$495.00 I think, and that was some time ago.  I use Q&A, which is a flat =
file system that can import DBIII/DBIV and others.  It works well and I =
found my copy at a used computer store.

Don.

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Subject:        database

While the discussion on data bases is great, getting hold of DOS =
databases
is very difficult.
Where can you obtain these programs?
DBIII
FoxBase
Alpha4
Paradox
Others?
The manufactures do not offer them that I can find and since they are
copyrighted they are not available on the internet.
A good user friendly data base would be great.  I have @base, but it is =
not
very user friendly.
Jim Sanders

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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:41:11 -0600, "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO"  wrote:


> I've got null modem adapters, and the null modem serial cable, IF I =
need it
> to switch things; but I was under the impression that this should be a
> straight forward thing.

Hi tim and List

I use an external modem on my 100/200LX. All you need is a:

Null modem adapter
HP serial cable
Port Adapter (to reduce the 25 to 9 on the modem side)

Then just plug the Port Adapter into the modem, then the Null modem =
adapter
into the Port Adapter, then plug the serial cable into the Null modem
adapter.


HTH

Regards,

Qman...

Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:06:35 -0500
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I have a Pretec Flash card that seems to have given up the ghost. I
can't format it with a 95 PC, laptop or the LX. I tried Fdisk100, fdisk,
sys, format, etc. I see what looks like a corrupted file system on the
card. I was ready to toss it in the trash but thought I'd see if anyone
knows of anything else to try. Is there a surefire way to restore a
flash card to ground zero besides the obvious things mentioned? If not,
does anyone want to buy a reeeeallly cheep card :¬) ?

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:19:15 +0000
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Hi Ed!
   Send he card to me, ha, just kidding.
Probably the card can be saved if you can do a low level initialization
on it. Some software packages come with a program to do this, but it seems
that this is less common as it becomes more of a Windows (tm) Plug and pray
world.
My toshiba laptop came with cardworks from Systemsoft. It has a DOS only
program called "ATAINIT" that can initialize ATA flash cards.  Note that
this is
different from the "format" routine. Usually, the ATAINIT program can read
the card's
parameters right off the card, but sometimes you have to ask the
manufacturer.
e-mail me if you need more "details".
-Bryan


Ed Padin wrote:

> I have a Pretec Flash card that seems to have given up the ghost. I
> can't format it with a 95 PC, laptop or the LX. I tried Fdisk100, fdisk,
> sys, format, etc. I see what looks like a corrupted file system on the
> card. I was ready to toss it in the trash but thought I'd see if anyone
> knows of anything else to try. Is there a surefire way to restore a
> flash card to ground zero besides the obvious things mentioned? If not,
> does anyone want to buy a reeeeallly cheep card :¬) ?
>

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On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:49:23 -0800, David Sargeant wrote:

>Unfortunately, manually inserting hard returns can cause ugliness in =
mail
>readers that DO wrap the lines. It can create this look:
>
>This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a test.This is a
>test.This is a

That would only occur if the sender inserts CRs at greater than around 80
characters wide. Most clients wrap outgoing messages at 72 characters.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:32:54 -0800
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> That would only occur if the sender inserts CRs at greater than around
> 80 characters wide. Most clients wrap outgoing messages at 72
> characters.

Assuming, of course, that the reader has an 80-character display.  I
generally read my e-mail on the palmtop in medium or large zoom, which
causes the distorted display.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:43:55 -0500
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I'm not sure... it doesn't say in the readme. If I get around to it I'll
reinstall it and see what version it says in the program.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcollins@trendx.com Ýmailto:dcollins@trendx.com¨
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 12:26 PM
> To:   'HPLX Mailing List'
> Subject:      RE: MS Flight Simulator?
>
> Which Version?
>
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        > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        > Subject:      Re: MS Flight Simulator?
        >
        > On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:
        >
        >
        > I have sucessfully fun MS Flight Simulator on my LX, in fact I
sold a
        > copy I found a flea market to another list member sometime
back.
        >
        > 73 Jeff
        >

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> BTW: Do you guys know that the Nokia communicator is now available in
> the U.S.? I saw one in a Cell Phone store. The teenager behind the
> counter didn't know much about it except the price. two large!! (That's
> $2000). Does anyone know more?

I saw one in my local sell phone store, too.  Don't know who is going to
buy it, though - they don't yet offer data service through their (digital)
network.  But it's coming in a month or two, and I plan to be first in
line to get my Ericsson interface card - then I'll be completely
portable when necessary.

-Chris Lott

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Jeff wrote:

> Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
> a .tar file?
>

Someone already told you the answer is the tar command, but I jsut wanted to
point out that tar merely combines files, not compress them.  compress and
gzip can do that, and tar will automatically call them if you add a z or Z
parameter respectively.

tar stands for Tape Archive.  It's designed to write a bunch of files into
one device or file.

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Foxbase is the "lean and mean" version, before event driven programming and
pseudo SQL were tagged on to make it FoxPro. Think it was just a couple of
100 k's.


> Worked fine for me.  Microsoft-labelled FoxPro 2.0.  But I cheated a
> little bit -- I used a notebook PC to copy all the files from the
> (3.5") installation disks to a single directory on a flash card, then
> I put the flash card in the palmtop and ran INSTALL.EXE from there.
>
> -Frank McConnell

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Comments: To: al chin 

C'mon Al, give us a break!  I know there are a few non-
Americans monitoring this list.  Maybe we're not as vocal as
you are but we are still reading, monitoring and learning
from this fine list.

English is my third language, so I fully agree with Frans
Veldman that it is somewhat "difficult" to read your postings.

We put some efforts to write in "proper" English, so I hope
it is not too much if we expect others to do the same.

Sentot Adiprasena
Jakarta, Indonesia

-----Original Message-----
From: al chin 
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 23:50
Subject: Re: Fluffy retort...

Hey peoples, I ain't got nutting against going wit the kroud
and helping out.  If some guy from Mendoza or Baku says
he's having a bad go at it, I kan and wood back off.  How
evers most asinine kriticisms have come from a few bad
natives that like to yank anybodies chain every chance
they get.  Now we knows who dey is.

Actually, no foreigner ever asked any question about
anything, then again I wouldnt either in Baku or
Mendoza as that's the way life is.  A lesson that's
repeated every once in a while all through life, that
there is the 2% you have to contend with. It serves
as a reminder rather as something newly learned.  I
usually go out of my way for foreigners as I (we) are
are always foreigners somewhere.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Could one of you guys in the right time zone blaze your way through to one
of the top guys in one of these firms, and have a friendly chat on the
subject of creating goodwill by donating out-of-date software to the public
domain?
There are a lot of us with old floppies out there, but I for one am a
little hesitant to be remembered as the guy who was shot by Emperor Bill as
an example to others out there!! (G)

Good luck!
Paul -chicken- Rasmussen

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> While the discussion on data bases is great, getting hold of DOS
databases
> is very difficult.
> Where can you obtain these programs?
> DBIII
> FoxBase
> Alpha4
> Paradox
> Others?
> The manufactures do not offer them that I can find and since they are
> copyrighted they are not available on the internet.
> A good user friendly data base would be great.  I have @base, but it is
not
> very user friendly.
> Jim Sanders

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I have been  using uuencode.exe to automagically create outbound mail
attachments in my nettamer directory. Now my office changed somehting
and UUencode doesn't work any more (hrmph!). Is there a good
command-line program to generate MIME attachments to a text file?

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Just to confuse the issue: as a foreigner I quite like Al's postings for
exactly the opposite reason: they tell me something about his spoken
language - try experimenting with various drawls and accents whilst reading
his postings - great fun!
Cheers to Al from
Paul Rasmussen
PS. Al's spell-as-you-pronounce english doesn't stop me from trying to
write "proper" english!
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> Fra: Sentot@Bigfoot 
> Til: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Emne: Re: Fluffy retort...
> Dato: 13. november 1998 09:58

> English is my third language, so I fully agree with Frans
> Veldman that it is somewhat "difficult" to read your postings.
> We put some efforts to write in "proper" English, so I hope
> it is not too much if we expect others to do the same.
>
> Sentot Adiprasena
> Jakarta, Indonesia

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:28:02 -0600, Hal Goldstein  wrote:

> < ED coming Hal?>>
>
> Ed Keefe doesn't like to travel (and I'm to cheap to pay for his
> ticket).

Thats to bad! I've been looking forward to meeting you guys since 1991.
Oh well! Maybe next your Ed.

If you can Hal grab one of Ed's business cards for me. (:-)



Hal: PTP Fall 1991, page1.

" You belong to the exclusive. distinguished, international circle of HP
95LX users ".

Boy! That was all it took, I rushed out and put a 95LX on lay-way, and =
been
hooked on palmtops ever since ( right along with 007 and The Saint ).

Ed: PTP Fall 1991, page25.
" Why use the tile, "Through The Looking Glass," for a column about
palmtop computing? "

I've looking through that glass ever since.


BTW: The remote car thing for 007, they got that from Ed. 

Regards,

Qman...

"Don't you just feel good about yourself, you will!"
Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Subject:      An idea for new list name. OGO700LX disassembling.

        Hello all,

    I recommend that the list be renamed to "They were expendable" as
    LX originally stood for "Lotus eXpeendable" and recently HP thinks
    too that DOS palm must be sacrificed to get onto WinCE bandwagon.

    The OGO 700LX internals were nice, but hard to get the picture.
    I mean, I didn't understood the underside. Can you remove the
    Nokia Datacard and desolder the PCMCIA socket, if you do not use
    the phone? Then you'll reduce OGO700LX thickness by how many?
    Will then the intermediate metal plate serve as an underside, or
    that makes the machine prone to dirt/wet problems?

    Where are the wires that come from Nokia 2110 phone? Are those
    going through the same joint that the screen lines use? Also
    all the wires from Nokia phone go to the Datacard? I bet that's
    hard to trace, as the card gets all input via PCMCIA. But if some
    lines connect to and end in some motherboard components, not the
    card, then we may learn new things about the LX hw architecture.

    Wishes: Please tell, if the Globe & Stars logo is pressed into
    the case or simply add thickness (I mean if the inverse of the
    decoration is visible from inside the case). Also a few pics more
    on upper-lid (LCD and beyond) and new design hinge would be nice.
    Also a wind-tunnel test to show, if the Chevy-fins can enhance the
    Cv of HPLX. The previous 200LX model was of 70's edged design.

                  Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Subject:      hplx printers

any small battery operated printers out there, that will work with the hp
95/100/200's??
thanks
scott

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Hi.
I used to have MS Flight Simulator 4.0 on my LX and I don't recall having
to do anything funny to get it to work, but then my memory could be funny.
:)  Actually, I take that back.  You do have to use MAXDOS or exit the
System Manager to free up enough memory to get it running.

I do know that I turned off dynamic scenery and I have a 2X speed machine,
so I don't know what the speed would be like on a slower setup.  It ran
just fine for me; even the polygon views of the plane.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:30:11 -0500
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Al - take heart - you're just anticipating future developments, whether =
those kvetchers appreciate it or not.=20

Jon

Jon Barrett
Kensington, MD

-----Original Message-----
From: John Morris
To: (deleted)
Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 9:04 AM
Subject: SAP Language Conversion news


>Good news - we soon won't have to worry about those German
>field-names in SAP!
>
>1. SAP, AG has just announced an agreement with their
>English-speaking customers that English will be the official language =
of
>their ERP system - rather than German (the current language).
>
>2. As part of the negotations, the American SAP Users Group Host
>(ASAP-UGH) conceded that the spelling of English words had some
>room for improvement.  Accordingly, ASAP-UGH has agreed upon a
>five-year phase-in of new spelling rules applying to the American
>language for all employees of firms that have implemented SAP as their
>ERP system.  After expressing initial disappointment, SAP has agreed
>that it can live with this plan.
>
>        The agreed plan is as follows:
>    =20
>a) In year 1, the soft 'c' would replaced by the 's'.  Sertainly, this =
will
>make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be replaced by =
'k'.
>This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan now have one less
>letter.=20
>
>b) There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the
>troublesome 'ph' is replaced by 'f'. This will reduse 'fotograf' by =
20%.=20
>
>c) In the 3d year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be =
expekted
>to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.  U.S.
>firms will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always
>ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible =
mes of
>the silent 'e's in the language is disgrasful and they should eliminat =
them.
>
>d) By year 4, peopl wil be reseptiv to lingwistik korektions such as
>replasing 'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v' (saving mor keyboard spas). =
During
>ze fifz year, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou'
>and similar changes vud of kors be applied to ozer=20
>kombinations of leters.
>    =20
>e) After zis fifz year, ve vil have a reli sensibil riten styl. Zer vil =
be no
>more trubls or difikultis and evrirun vil find it ezi to understand ech =
ozer.
>
>ZE DREM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!!!.
>
>

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>Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:45:16 -0500
>From:    Bruce Martin 
>Subject: MS Flight Simulator?
>
>>> I suppose you can access that when you just loaded Flight Simulator
>>> and your palmtop crashed and locked up???<<
>
>> Exactly the problem that led me to pull the AA batteries.
>
>Does this mean there is a problem running MS Flight Simulator on a =
200LX?
>Has anybody accomplished this, and if so, what are the caveats?
>
>B.
>
So, has anyone hooked up a joystick (on AC, no doubt) using one of the =
PCMCIA gameport adapters?

Jon

Jon Barrett
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Hi,

> English is my third language, so I fully agree with Frans
> Veldman that it is somewhat "difficult" to read your postings.
>
Yes, I agree- it's not easy to understand what he is trying to
say. But of what I understand, it's nothing of technical value
for the palmtop community and can be immediately deleted.

It's fun a couple of times to see the crazy spelling, but all
the time- tells me that he has no idea how to actually write
a message which has a correct spelling.

Regards,

Jorgen

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Feher Tamas wrote:

>     The OGO 700LX internals were nice, but hard to get the picture.
>     I mean, I didn't understood the underside. Can you remove the
>     Nokia Datacard and desolder the PCMCIA socket, if you do not use
>     the phone?

The phone docks into the "finned" top section, into a matching plug.
One could remove this bottom and plug the holes I guess but why?

>     Then you'll reduce OGO700LX thickness by how many?
>     Will then the intermediate metal plate serve as an underside, or
>     that makes the machine prone to dirt/wet problems?

Possibly but there are really no water/dust tight seals now.


>
>     Where are the wires that come from Nokia 2110 phone? Are those
>     going through the same joint that the screen lines use?

It's hard to tell this without disassembling the top cover. I wouldn't
imagine
there would be more than 3 or 4 connections. Data in/data out, common
and maybe some
phone control line.

>     Also all the wires from Nokia phone go to the Datacard? I bet that's
>     hard to trace, as the card gets all input via PCMCIA. But if some
>     lines connect to and end in some motherboard components, not the
>     card, then we may learn new things about the LX hw architecture.

My guess is it goes to the motherboard/CPU as there is additional
firmware to
select the phone as another comm port in DataComm. The PCMCIA socket
must be
special to the DTP card as neither of my modems work there and Franks's
flash
card wouldn't work. If we could use this as a flash card port and the
other
slot as a modem port life would be much easier.


>
>     Wishes: Please tell, if the Globe & Stars logo is pressed into
>     the case or simply add thickness (I mean if the inverse of the
>     decoration is visible from inside the case).

It appears to be embossed into the plastic as in "raised relief".

While I have had fun with the 700LX it does appear slightly faster than
the
200LX, maybe due to the cv because of the fins, which appear to me to be
more Buick related than Chevy, but definitely General Motors heritage.

--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:44:28 -0500
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I guess you guys are talkin' about everybodies pal... I'm sure he's on a
lot of kill file lists, not just mine ;¬/ . I've avoided flamin' the guy
cause it just adds fuel to the fire.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Wallgren Ýmailto:jorgen@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 3:39 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fluffy retort...
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > English is my third language, so I fully agree with Frans
> > Veldman that it is somewhat "difficult" to read your postings.
> >
> Yes, I agree- it's not easy to understand what he is trying to
> say. But of what I understand, it's nothing of technical value
> for the palmtop community and can be immediately deleted.
>
> It's fun a couple of times to see the crazy spelling, but all
> the time- tells me that he has no idea how to actually write
> a message which has a correct spelling.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>

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I think you also need to be in the right video mode with:

mode mono

or

mono8025



> -----Original Message-----
> From: James P. Grenert Ýmailto:grenert.james@MAYO.EDU¨
> Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 3:27 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ MS Flight Simulator?
>
>
> Hi.
> I used to have MS Flight Simulator 4.0 on my LX and I don't
> recall having
> to do anything funny to get it to work, but then my memory
> could be funny.
> :)  Actually, I take that back.  You do have to use MAXDOS or exit the
> System Manager to free up enough memory to get it running.
>
> I do know that I turned off dynamic scenery and I have a 2X
> speed machine,
> so I don't know what the speed would be like on a slower
> setup.  It ran
> just fine for me; even the polygon views of the plane.
>
> Cheers.
> J. P. Grenert
> grenert@mayo.edu
>
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recently my double speed 32meg software carousel unit has stopped
infrared printing from memo.  is there a conflict.  it was working
originally.  i can still print from a database.

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Subject:      Re: DOS file 'times' question

> Ah, I see, what you're referring to as FAT32 is what Microsoft
> refers to as VFAT (Virtual FAT). I have been absolutely unable to
> locate _any_ reference (including MSDN Library and TechNet) which
> say

Ok we are using two different names for the same thing basically.

> The main point, however, remains: Win32 applications support,
> through the operating system (NT3.5 or later, Win95 or later),
> create, modify, and access times on _all_ FAT-type and NTFS disks,
> includ

This is what I disagree with. I have alot (~200) of win95 machines
using a "normal" FAT16 filesystem. Of course win95 can write long
file names but it DOES NOT store the extra time information, it only
stores the modified time. Either that or none of win95's 32 bit apps,
including windows explorer, can display them, which I would find
rather unusual. Maybe I am missing something, if you have a FAT16
partition how do YOU see the extra time information?

Pete



Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:43:58 +1100
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OK, I finally did it.  I moved the cursor to delete a fleck of fluff on
the screen of the hplx. :)

BTW perhaps the list should be renamed ALSPELL-L? We wouldn't want to
mislead newcomers to the list as to what it is really supposed to be
about, would we? And it's not fair to flame them posting about anything
other than Al's spelling when they couldn't know that that is what the
list is all about?

Al, why not just post a single conventionally spelt message, to silence
your detractors, so we can all get some peace and quiet? Or even
better, the detractors could just muzzle themselves.  All this nonsense
really is spoiling the list for everyone.

ÝPlease set all flames to this message to me personally:
        Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au
Thank you¨

--
Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au           Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
 " No one is to be pitied for having to work hard, for nature has
   contrived a special reward for the man who works hard. It gives him
   an extra relish which enables him to gather in a brief space from
   simple pleasures a satisfication in search of which the social idler
   wanders vainly through the twenty-four hours. " - Winston Churchill, 1908
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:48:24 -0500
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" 
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MS Flight Simulator runs fine on my HP200LX.
Rodger

>Does this mean there is a problem running MS Flight Simulator on a 200LX?
>Has anybody accomplished this, and if so, what are the caveats?

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I will not be able to make the dinner as I have a prior commitment.  I
would still like to meet with the group sometime during the week if at
all possible.

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Subject: COMDEX Change of plans already


Right after I posted the note about 6:00 Saturday palmtop user dinner,
my reservations did change.  We will meet at my hotel (still Budget
Suites), but at 3684 Paradise Road., 702 699 7000.

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: 13. november 1998 21:02
Subject: An idea for new list name. OGO700LX disassembling.


>    The OGO 700LX internals were nice, but hard to get the picture.
>    I mean, I didn't understood the underside. Can you remove the
>    Nokia Datacard and desolder the PCMCIA socket, if you do not use
>    the phone? Then you'll reduce OGO700LX thickness by how many?
>    Will then the intermediate metal plate serve as an underside, or
>    that makes the machine prone to dirt/wet problems?


This is real plastic! :-) The only metal is some thin metal shield plating
in bottom no 2. Also there are several holes in bottom no 2, and the toroid
sticks a bit out. Not really practical. Not much more than shaving the fins
off! .-) You can unplug the DTP-2 card, the socket is just a L-shaped
adapter to the socket soldered on the motherboard. It can be pulled off, I
used a thin, flat screwdriver. It's basically a cake, several layers with
cream inbetween!


>    Where are the wires that come from Nokia 2110 phone? Are those
>    going through the same joint that the screen lines use? Also

No, there are two orange foils, the contacts are quite close to each other.
I assume one is screen, the other phone. Much cleaner design, I wouldn't mix
them. Same joint case/screen.

Take this ascii diagram and look at it using a mono-spaced font.

            /-----------| Chevy fins (Phone holder)
|----------/------------| top of screen
|_______________________| fascia plate
   |     ______     |
   |  --|      |--  |      plastic
   |___          ___|      hinge
                           assembly
      --|      |--
        |      |
|-----------------------| top (keyboard)
          _____________   motherboard
|_______________|_______| bottom 2
     ----------_|         DTP-2 card + L adapter
|_______________________| bottom 1

This should give some idea of where the different layers are. Looking at the
700LX LED edge on with screen closed. The pastic hinge is normal
construction for plastic hinges, I have seen on toys etc.

>    all the wires from Nokia phone go to the Datacard? I bet that's
>    hard to trace, as the card gets all input via PCMCIA. But if some

This is not really hard to trace. I posted the url for pcmcia ata or i/o
mode pin mappings. One just has to check the pins not defined. And with the
pinout of the phone that I posted too, it should be easy. All thats needed
now is a logic analyser for finding the protocoll. Or one could just check
for continuity to find the correct pins. All the pins are known. Simple.

>    lines connect to and end in some motherboard components, not the
>    card, then we may learn new things about the LX hw architecture.

I doubt that the telephone comm lines are routed through anything else than
spike/noise suppressors. No need really.

>    Wishes: Please tell, if the Globe & Stars logo is pressed into
>    the case or simply add thickness (I mean if the inverse of the
>    decoration is visible from inside the case). Also a few pics more
>    on upper-lid (LCD and beyond) and new design hinge would be nice.
>    Also a wind-tunnel test to show, if the Chevy-fins can enhance the
>    Cv of HPLX. The previous 200LX model was of 70's edged design.

My God, you ask for quite a lot! :-) I read this in a small window so I
hadn't seen your wishes before I had answered the above! :-) Well, the
keyboard is hiding the underside, but part is visible and it was flat. If
you want the space motive for anything try pressing plastelina over the
case, it makes a nice imprint. Pics of upper lid (outside) are on their way
soon. Hinge design I don't know for sure, but it seems just to be all
plastic? The two halves of the screen have each their half circle on each
end. Join them together and one has a plastic pin. This is enclosed by a
three-quarter plastic shell to the rest of the Omnigo, this shell is part of
the plastic surrounding the keyboard and runs over most of the middle. There
doesn't seem to be a metal axel with friction coupling like the 200LX. On
the Omnigo the screen just flops back to rest at an angle. Silly if you have
the phone attached, one then has to pull out the foot on the battery lid to
prevent the whole thing rolling over.

The Cv is worse. Cross section with protubences at right angles to the flow.
:-) The 200LX was ahead of it's time. It has these rills in the case. It is
well known that they induce turbulence in the boundry layer and decrease
friction.  LOBS! :-)

br

Franklin

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:45:20 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout 
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Hi,

>It's hard to tell this without disassembling the top cover. I wouldn't
>imagine
>there would be more than 3 or 4 connections. Data in/data out, common
>and maybe some
>phone control line.


I think maybe seven, look at my previous posting.

>While I have had fun with the 700LX it does appear slightly faster than
>the
>200LX, maybe due to the cv because of the fins, which appear to me to be

I think this too. I had Buddy installed on the 700LX (I got it first), later
I installed Buddy on my 200LX. I remember being very disappointed as the
200LX seemed slower! But later when they were placed beside each other and
benchmarked I could tell no difference. I wonder why? I was under the
impression that the 700LX was a tad faster. Maybe better ROM routines?
Landmark is the same for both, so processor speed is equal.

br
Franklin

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:59:01 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout 
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Didn't find the original, so answering to an answer...

>> BTW: Do you guys know that the Nokia communicator is now available in
>> the U.S.? I saw one in a Cell Phone store. The teenager behind the
>> counter didn't know much about it except the price. two large!! (That's
>> $2000). Does anyone know more?

Nokia 9000? Phased out in Norway now. :-) I have seen one or two used for
about USD 350. Runs a browser, email, SMS under GEOS. 386 with 2 MB ram, can
be expanded to 6 or 8 I think, but NO pcmcia slot! A little bulky, but way
better than the Nokia 2110/Omnigo 700LX combo. I want one soon. Oh yes, read
somewhere that it can't receive attachments to mail... But I want one
anyway, just waiting for the right killing!

br
Franklin

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:46:34 +0100
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              Franklin Eekhout 
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>    the phone? Then you'll reduce OGO700LX thickness by how many?


About 5 mm.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 00:29:50 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> I have been  using uuencode.exe to automagically create outbound mail
> attachments in my nettamer directory. Now my office changed somehting
> and UUencode doesn't work any more (hrmph!). Is there a good
> command-line program to generate MIME attachments to a text file?

There are several on Simtel. I've used the one called Mpack, and it works
nicely (but may not necessarily be the best).

Get it here: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/decode/mpack15d.zip
(44kb zip)

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:34:03 GMT
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 04:38:48 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

>It's fun a couple of times to see the crazy spelling, but all
>the time- tells me that he has no idea how to actually write
>a message which has a correct spelling.

I always get the feeling that he must be a spotty faced 14 year old
K3wl Dewd, but I hope I'm wrong.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:32:54 -0800, David Sargeant wrote:

>Assuming, of course, that the reader has an 80-character display.  I
>generally read my e-mail on the palmtop in medium or large zoom, which
>causes the distorted display.

=46air comment, and I've had the same problem when on the road. But it's =
only
polite to at least play the game by the rule which suits the majority, =
and
that *does* call for a 72 character wrap. I guess those folks who have to
run Windoze with *really* big fonts because of short sight would also
suffer.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:36:53 +0000
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> Could one of you guys in the right time zone blaze your way through to one
> of the top guys in one of these firms, and have a friendly chat on the
> subject of creating goodwill by donating out-of-date software to the public
> domain?
> There are a lot of us with old floppies out there, but I for one am a
> little hesitant to be remembered as the guy who was shot by Emperor Bill as
> an example to others out there!! (G)

I'm not only in the right time zone but just a hop, skip and jump from
The Dark Side! (G)

Too many MS millionaires already live in my middle class neighborhood
near the U of W and since they want to stay that way (millionaires) - they
don't want you using old, outdated, obsolete software.

Nah, I'm just a bureaucrat and don't even own their stock.  But I do get
good prices on their software from friends who can purchase at their
store! (gd&r)

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:07:23 -0800
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I'm not bothered by his writing, and I would recommend not getting so =
worked up about something one cant change.  I could understand being =
frustrated if you had to lookup words like "nutting, kan & dey" in a =
translation dictionary.  If you cant read it, just move on to the next =
message, right?

Don.

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Sent:   Friday, November 13, 1998 11:21 AM
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Subject:        Re: Fluffy retort...

Just to confuse the issue: as a foreigner I quite like Al's postings for
exactly the opposite reason: they tell me something about his spoken
language - try experimenting with various drawls and accents whilst =
reading
his postings - great fun!
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:47:50 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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>Maybe I am missing something, if you have a FAT16
>partition how do YOU see the extra time information?

On my NT machine (I don't generally run Win95), I use the /t option to dir.
For example, to see the creation, last access, and last write times for
I:\phone.pdb:

(I:\) dir /tc phone.pdb
 Volume in drive I is C-1GB
 Volume Serial Number is 2561-4BEE

 Directory of I:\

11/08/98  10:36p               169,860 phone.pdb
               1 File(s)        169,860 bytes
               0 Dir(s)     228,360,192 bytes free

(I:\) dir /ta phone.pdb
 Volume in drive I is C-1GB
 Volume Serial Number is 2561-4BEE

 Directory of I:\

11/08/98  12:00a               169,860 phone.pdb
               1 File(s)        169,860 bytes
               0 Dir(s)     228,360,192 bytes free

(I:\) dir /tw phone.pdb
 Volume in drive I is C-1GB
 Volume Serial Number is 2561-4BEE

 Directory of I:\

11/08/98  10:32p               169,860 phone.pdb
               1 File(s)        169,860 bytes
               0 Dir(s)     228,360,192 bytes free

I don't know off-hand whether Win95's dir command has a /t option.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 02:50:21 GMT
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Scott,

Both Citizen and Pentax make small portable printers that run off
rechargeable batteries.

The Citizen PN60 which I have does colour or black and white, uses
ribbons and prints on paper or transparencies. Size with battery is
slightly longer than the width of a sheet of paper and about 2 in x 1.5
in in the other two dimensions. Speed is okay, expendables (ribbons)
are relatively expensive. There is a more recent model that can connect
via IR.

The Pentax Pocket Jet is a thermal printer about half the size (in
height) of the Citizen printer but black and white only and no
transparency material. It is faster and consumables (thermal paper)
are cheaper. Pentax has a high quality cut sheet thermal paper that
looks good. If you do not want colour or transparencies I would
recommend this printer over the Citizen. Pentax has recently added new
models to the line and I am not sure if the new versions work with the
palmtop however. Perhaps someone else can clarify.

GaryS

> any small battery operated printers out there, that will work with the =
hp
> 95/100/200's??
> thanks
> scott
>
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> But it's coming in a month or two, and I plan to be first in
> line to get my Ericsson interface card - then I'll be completely
> portable when necessary.
>

A couple of months ago I heard a rumour that it would be before the end
of the year. Emailed them (Powertel) to see if they wanted beta
testers. They didn't take me up on the offer but did say before the
end of the year unless they ran into problems - which doesn't give
them much time.

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i have a swannsmart modem, it has the CE logo on the box but only
drivers for win/dos, it seems... when i start the palmtop i get a message
'unknown card in port, enter name of driver for card'
what driver? and where does one put it on their ce system?
regards,
raph

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:23:00 -0600
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ screen cleaning

Morning y'all;
I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd
rather please those that had a kind thing to say.

Some say, yu skip my msgs, others say, I have
nothing to say, those that like it read it, so in that
kase, the situation doth do pls everybodies, no?

"All this nonsense really is spoiling the list for everyone."
What is?  My spelling or the vile attitude a of a few kvetchers?
The spelling I kan stop (Rtn to above paragraph).

Enjoy yor weekend people.
Semper mobilis,
yor paal al :-) .............

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:24:23 +0100
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm not bothered by his writing, and I would recommend not getting so
> worked up about something one cant change.  I could understand being
> frustrated if you had to lookup words like "nutting, kan & dey" in a
> translation dictionary.  If you cant read it, just move on to the next
> message, right?

By "something one cant change" you must refer to al's attitude and not his
writing, as several posts show him capable of better English than his
regular posts display.

This is really what bothers me. Not that he writes poorly (if that was the
best English he could manage then I could understand and respect that),
but that he insists on writing worse English than he is capable of, for no
apparent reason.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:54:19 +0000
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> > 440MB card allocation unit size?
>
> No need to go to Vegas for that! 8192 bytes.

That's what I feared. This fits better for Windows and WinCE,
where filesize is counted in MB. But on the palmtop I keep many
files with less than 1KB. I recently reduced my allocation unit
size on my 10MB SanDisk to 512 bytes. My 50 BAT files now only
use 50*512=25KB. On the 440MB disk they would need 50*8192=400KB!
I hope, that utilities to change the allocation unit size will
work on the new 440MB flash cards. I used BOOTDMOD. It's
advantage over 1KCLUST is, that it allows you to go down to 512
byte allocation unit size and to reduce the number of root
directory entries.

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Subject:      Re: DB's and ICONS -  Chin question

In message , hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM said:
> < (XDB, KDB, etc) of DBs with icons up on the sysaps
> screen.  This is the third request.>>

If I understand correctly what you want to do is add icons for GDB files to
Application Manager. There is a program (on SUPER?) called dbl.com, which yuo
can use to force a database file into the database app, and then open the
database app. You can add an entry for this program in application manager
with a different icon for each database.

If you want to group databases into one icon, I believe that the same idea
can be done using HDM. I personally use 200MNU with one icon in Applicaion
Manager for all my databases, which then opens up a menu list with my DBs sorted into groups.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:26:32 EDT
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> i have a swannsmart modem, it has the CE logo on the box but only
> drivers for win/dos, it seems... when i start the palmtop i get a =
message
> 'unknown card in port, enter name of driver for card'
> what driver? and where does one put it on their ce system?
> regards,
> raph
>

I DO know that that CE thing has nothing to do with Windows CE, its just
some sort of Trade consortium thing - I have the same symbol on my
eyeglasses and on, believe it or not, my HP 200LX.

I DONT know why a PCMCIA modem should not work in a WinCE device, though.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:34:08 +1100
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Hi all;

I'm sorry for this offtopic postÝ*¨; but I need the Wisdom of the List.

What's the going contracting rate for an experienced programmer? I know
it's variable, so I'm actually after a range. As a metric, 3 years ago,
it was around $30-$35 per hour (Australian dollars).  Here's some
conversions at today's rates (rough):
        - $Aus:     30 - 35
        - $US:      19 - 22                    @ $Aus1 = 63 US cents
        - UK pound: 11 - 13                    @ $Aus1 = 38p
                Goodness knows what the euro rate will be...

I'm in Australia (Melbourne); but I'd be interested to compare the rate
in other lands. It's the contracting rate (so no paid sick leave, super,
hols etc).

Thanks!!

Cheers,
Brendan
--
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   contrived a special reward for the man who works hard. It gives him
   an extra relish which enables him to gather in a brief space from
   simple pleasures a satisfication in search of which the social idler
   wanders vainly through the twenty-four hours. " - Winston Churchill, 1908
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Ý*¨ but not sorry enough, I guess. But maybe others will be inspired to
take up contracting, and promote the hplx as a hacker's tool par excellence
as they consult from place to place?

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:26:45 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Ed Padin wrote:
> I think you also need to be in the right video mode with:
> mode mono
> or
> mono8025
>
FS4 has a whole slew of video options when you boot it up.  One is even
CGA laptop LCD screen!  I can't recall if that's what I used or not, but
basically, there is a setting that is perfect for the LX.

I'm thinking I'm going to have to reinstall it now that I have a big flash
card.  :)

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:22:55 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Jon Barrett wrote:
> So, has anyone hooked up a joystick (on AC, no doubt) using one of the
> PCMCIA gameport adapters?
>
I tried a Media Vision sound/game card.  The card didn't crash the system,
but the driver sure did.

Cheers.
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:04:39 -0600
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, raph wrote:

> what driver? and where does one put it on their ce system?

Is this a case of where I politely direct this person to a CE list?

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:29:02 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" 
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Subject:      Re: DOS file 'times' question

> >Maybe I am missing something, if you have a FAT16
> >partition how do YOU see the extra time information?
>
> On my NT machine (I don't generally run Win95), I use the /t option to dir.
> For example, to see the creation, last access, and last write times for
> I:\phone.pdb:
>

What filesystem are you using on your NT machine, NTFS? That would
make a BIG difference.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:25:53 -0500
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> Date:    Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:49:23 -0800
> From:    David Sargeant 
> Subject: Re: Off-list question: e-mail message formats
>
> etc.  I'm not sure there's any solution to the problem.  I guess ideally,
> all clients would wrap the lines automatically, but that's not the case.
> Just one of those pesky annoyances we have to live with...

Ah yes ... yet another in the long list of reasons to use vi.  ;-)

Clark

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:51:44 -0500
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FS4 does work on the 100/200lx single speed.  My major problem with it is
that it is built to use a full keyboard, esp. the numeric keys.  I know
there are keystrokes for all the combinations, but I find it interferes with
smooth operations.  Flying using cursor control keys is hard enough.  It's
also hard on my eyes to see where you're going.  Instruments are hardly
readable.  Also, I run FS4 from DOS with maxdos, so builtin apps are not
available.  I do use sleepon so that I can turn the machine off.  Otherwise,
FS ignores the on/off key.

The best games for the lx are like those by Curtis Cameron which are
specifically designed to use the limited screen and small keyboard.

I toyed with the idea of a minimal flight sim for the lx, but discovered its
more work than it seems.  Anyone interested might want to check out the book
"Flights of Fancy" by Chris Lampton to see what's involved.  Well, maybe
when I retire.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:23:53 -0600
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Okay gang, after the talk of Flight Simulator on the 200LX
I decided to pull out one of my old favorites, Prince of
Persia.  It's a sword fight and maze game that runs in DOS
on CGA, EGA, or VGA (I think).  I had tried it before and
knew it loaded cause the sounds all worked, but there was
no display.

Anyway, I tried mode bw80, mode mono, and mode bw40.  After
several attempts I actually got the game to run once with
the display working properly.  I played the first level but
got killed at the end.  It seems like mode bw80 was the
command that had preceded the successful run, but I've been
absolutely unable to get it to run again.  What am I doing
wrong?  Help?!

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:03:44 -0800
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> size on my 10MB SanDisk to 512 bytes. My 50 BAT files now only
> use 50*512=25KB. On the 440MB disk they would need 50*8192=400KB!
> I hope, that utilities to change the allocation unit size will
> work on the new 440MB flash cards. I used BOOTDMOD. It's
> advantage over 1KCLUST is, that it allows you to go down to 512
> byte allocation unit size and to reduce the number of root
> directory entries.

I tried 1KCLUST on a 40MB card and it told me that it could only go up to
32MB.  Isn't there a limit of 65,536 clusters for a FAT16 disk?  (Or
something like that...)  So you pretty much HAVE to have 8K clusters on a
large disk.  Let's see:

Assuming you can have 65536 clusters, then if each cluster is 4K, you
could have a total of 262,144K, or about 256MB.  So yes, you'd have to
have 8K clusters, which would let you go up to 512MB.  The 640MB card that
Hitachi is supposed to have next year will probably have to have ... 16K
clusters?  Ouch.

Perhaps there is a TSR or disk utility that could overcome this?  ... or
we could upgrade the palmtop to FAT32.  

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 08:05:51 -0800
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On the subject of Flight Simulator's keys, has anybody tried running
Stefan Peichl's NUMLOCK program and seeing if it works in there?  Might be
handy...

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I am hakving difficulty using an ACURITE DOUBLESLOT card adapter to =
transfer data between two cards that have been compressed with STACKER.  =
The second card always comes up as an un-STACKED volume.  How do I get =
STACKER installed for a second card at e: or f:

Thanks

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I am hakving difficulty using an =
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DOUBLESLOT card adapter to transfer data between two cards that have =
been=20
compressed with STACKER.  The second card always comes up as an =
un-STACKED=20
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, James P. Grenert wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Ed Padin wrote:
> > I think you also need to be in the right video mode with:
> > mode mono
> > or
> > mono8025
> >
> FS4 has a whole slew of video options when you boot it up.  One is even
> CGA laptop LCD screen!  I can't recall if that's what I used or not, but
> basically, there is a setting that is perfect for the LX.

Also one that takes into account the slightly squashed display of the LX?


Cheers,

Laust

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> The 640MB card that Hitachi is supposed to have next year will probably
> have to have ... 16K clusters?  Ouch.
>
> Perhaps there is a TSR or disk utility that could overcome this?  ... or
> we could upgrade the palmtop to FAT32.  

What about 2 partitions? Drive B: on the pamtop is in deep
sleep since the very first day. Time to wake it up.

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Where do you get BOOTDMOD?

-----Original Message-----
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> > 440MB card allocation unit size?
>
> No need to go to Vegas for that! 8192 bytes.

That's what I feared. This fits better for Windows and WinCE,
where filesize is counted in MB. But on the palmtop I keep many
files with less than 1KB. I recently reduced my allocation unit
size on my 10MB SanDisk to 512 bytes. My 50 BAT files now only
use 50*512=25KB. On the 440MB disk they would need 50*8192=400KB!
I hope, that utilities to change the allocation unit size will
work on the new 440MB flash cards. I used BOOTDMOD. It's
advantage over 1KCLUST is, that it allows you to go down to 512
byte allocation unit size and to reduce the number of root
directory entries.

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Hi There!

If my HP 200LX and my Accton LAn card should be useful, I have to connect
to a NT server and get an IP address from a DHCP server.

So I started with a desktop PC running on DOS and there I installed =
LANMAN
for DOS (which by the way is available on the NT installation CD-ROM- in
the CIENTS directory). I got it working with the desktop and could login =
to
a NT domain where I got my IP address from a DHCP server. So far so good!

But when I installed LANMAN on my HP 200LX, I received error messages =
such
as:

Attempting to load DOS 80286 code on 8088
 TCPDRV initialization failed
.
.
NET0128: Attempting to load 80286 code on 8088 or 80186
 Error: 2 - Executing TCPTSR

This surprise me since it's stated that MS LAN Manager 2.2c has a
Intel 8088 processor as minimum requirement!!????

I am not sure if I load the Accton palmtop drives correctly so LANMAN
recognize the card...

Maybe I should try an older LANMAN- anyone has the installation for
NT 3.51- I guess an older version of LANMAN should be available there?

Any good suggestions are highly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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does the ir work with the hp.  i recently purchased the canon bj80 because
of the ir port, only to find it does not work with the hp.  ir requires
windows drivers

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>
> Scott,
>
> Both Citizen and Pentax make small portable printers that run off
> rechargeable batteries.
>
> The Citizen PN60 which I have does colour or black and white, uses
> ribbons and prints on paper or transparencies. Size with battery is
> slightly longer than the width of a sheet of paper and about 2 in x 1.5
> in in the other two dimensions. Speed is okay, expendables (ribbons)
> are relatively expensive. There is a more recent model that can connect
> via IR.
>
> The Pentax Pocket Jet is a thermal printer about half the size (in
> height) of the Citizen printer but black and white only and no
> transparency material. It is faster and consumables (thermal paper)
> are cheaper. Pentax has a high quality cut sheet thermal paper that
> looks good. If you do not want colour or transparencies I would
> recommend this printer over the Citizen. Pentax has recently added new
> models to the line and I am not sure if the new versions work with the
> palmtop however. Perhaps someone else can clarify.
>
> GaryS
>
> > any small battery operated printers out there, that will work with the
> hp
> > 95/100/200's??
> > thanks
> > scott
> >
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:

> does the ir work with the hp.  i recently purchased the canon bj80 because
> of the ir port, only to find it does not work with the hp.  ir requires
> windows drivers

I've got the Citizen PN60i (thanks Mitch!) which is the model with the IR
port.  It does work with the 200LX, if you install the IrDA drivers.
There are two separate drivers, one for DOS programs and one that works in
the System Manager.

I'm still looking for ones that will work in Windows 2.03 or 3.0
applications... it would be great to do WYSIWYG printing out of Word 1.1.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:40:28 -0500
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al chin wrote:
>
> Morning y'all;
> I kan't please everybody,

Hooo-yaaaa Al, thats tellin' em
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Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > i have a swannsmart modem, it has the CE logo on the box but only
> > drivers for win/dos, it seems... when i start the palmtop i get a message
> > 'unknown card in port, enter name of driver for card'
> > what driver? and where does one put it on their ce system?
> > regards,
> > raph
> >
>
> I DO know that that CE thing has nothing to do with Windows CE,

I believe it may be approved for use in Europe under certain CE
guidelines for these devices, sort of like UL here in the states.
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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:16:07 +0000
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I downloaded and installed the free dictionary mentioned
earlier on this list under

http://www.windi7.com

You have to install it on your desktop and port it to the
palmtop. Here is how it works: Download the free paket
WINDIFRE.EXE (3.8MB) from their site to your desktop.
Install it on the desktop. During the installation you have to
select a language out of 7: german, english, french, dutch,
italien, spanish or portugese. The language you select, is the
one in which you enter the word you want to have translated to
all other languages. That is, it only works in one direction.
If you want two or more directions, you have to select these
languages too. But be careful, every selected language uses up
3.5MB. After the installation is done, a directory WINDI is
created on drive C:. Create the same directory on your palmtop
and copy the files
 WINDIDOS.EXE
 WINDI.INI
 WINDI.CF
into it. The directory WINDI has two subdirectories.
You only need the content of the subdirectory LANGUAGE. It
holds the lanuage files for every character. Create this
subdirectory on your palmtop and copy the complete content.
Now run WINDIDOS and it should work. You have about 29000
words translated from your selected language into the remaining
6 other languages. If you want to use other directory names on
the palmtop, you have to edit WINDI.INI.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:08:47 -0600
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Not one to perpetuate useless threads but I ran onto this and thought it
appropriate for the recent flap regarding Al's spelling.
***********
A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling     by Mark Twain

 For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped
to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer
be part of the alphabet.  The only kase in which "c" would be retained
would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later.  Year 2
might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with
"i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
 Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.
 Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:04:41 +0100
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I have now dug out an old 5 1/4" drive, and rummaged about in my garage.
There I came across an old version of Silverado!
Silverado is a Computer Associates add-inn for 1-2-3 that lets you do real
relational database management through 1-2-3. This means things like
* Create and edit dBase files
* Sift through larger than memory databases
* Joins, Selects, Projects, Appends on multiple databases
* Crosstabs
* Report generator
* Forms view / spreadsheet view / crosstab view
* Advanced Filters and searches
Now for the flip side:
* Requires 124k TSR to be loaded BEFORE 200 command
* Requires Silverado add-in as well 26k
* Uses min. 32k data "window" for database processing
* Uses 1-2-3 memory for output of searches/tables/etc
* 1-2-3 left with 164k dataspace whwn Silverado is functional

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:39:04 -0500
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Finally, Fluff worth fighting for!

what a peach of a find.




Thanks,

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Not one to perpetuate useless threads but I ran onto this and thought it
appropriate for the recent flap regarding Al's spelling.
***********
A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling     by Mark Twain
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 06:06:18 +1100
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Hi all

The talk of games had me go through some old Zips...  amazing what a packrat
finds when he goes looking...  :))

I found Airtrax.. an air traffic controller game that works great on the 200LX

AND....

A util I have been trying to find for ages..  Its a dummy .SYS that causes a
pause between each line of config.sys.  If you have ever had your system
boot incorrectly after adding to config or Autoexec this is invaluable. I
havent tested yet on the LX but it worked great on my old 286 under Dos 6.22

Where do I send these for Super inclusion?

Is there any interest in either of these progs?

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:17:46 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Hi All,

I'm getting a new phone Ýfinally upgraded service to digital and hope, that
when it arrives next week, that I've made a good choice¨.

It's a Nokia 6162, working with a U.S.-based TDMA signal Ýguess I can't use
the cool phone "The Saint" had unless I'm in the U.K.).

What's the best way to go online with this phone and my 200LX?  I've got one
of the Creative Labs 14.4Kbps PC Card modems, which prob. isn't "cellular
compliant" (but does it need to be?  Can't I dial the number by hand and
have the modem pick up in the middle?).

I'm possibly willing to buy another modem, but would prefer an intermediate
box that would let me use my laptop's 56Kbps too -- hey, might as well kill
two birds w/ one stone here.

I know almost nothing about the Nokia 6162, and won't have it (and its
manual) 'til next week sometime  -- *then* I can look into more connectivity
issues; thought I'd give this list's talented members 1st crack at it ;-)

TIA,

--tim


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>What's the best way to go online with this phone and my 200LX?  I've got one
>of the Creative Labs 14.4Kbps PC Card modems, which prob. isn't "cellular
>compliant" (but does it need to be?  Can't I dial the number by hand and
>have the modem pick up in the middle?).
Hi Tim

I use GSM digital outside the US.

I am interested in what you find out for when I am inside the US though.

I have found the best source of information is always either the data
department of your telephone carrier or the data dept of the telephone
manufacturer.

For instance.  The GSM standard is set at 9600BPS. Since the signal is
Digital then the modem is effectively a connector only..

ie LXPSDN>ISP etc... There is no need to create/interpret analogue
signals..

If you can get 56K over a mobile network I would be very surprised.. I'm
happy with 9600 reliably.. Sometimes its 300BPS if the signal is poor.

Hope this helps

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:03:50 -0800
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Anyone else having any trouble connecting to HPLX.NET?  I haven't been able
to connect
for the last 2 days.  Thanks

Brian S
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Brian Sugita wrote:

> Anyone else having any trouble connecting to HPLX.NET?  I haven't been able
> to connect
> for the last 2 days.  Thanks

It works for me... You could try the IP address instead:

http://207.168.181.203


Regards,

Laust

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Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:09:59 -0500 (EST)

06m09s ago ...
On Sat, 14 Nov 1998, Brian Sugita wrote:

> Anyone else having any trouble connecting to HPLX.NET?  I haven't been =
able
> to connect
> for the last 2 days.  Thanks

     I just got thru OK

Cheers,

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Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> It works for me... You could try the IP address instead:
> http://207.168.181.203

Actually, the last number in that address changes, so don't use that.
(Right now it's still accurate, but if the ISDN link goes down, it will
switch.)  That address has about a 1-in-20 chance of being the right one.

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Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Anyone else having any trouble connecting to HPLX.NET?  I haven't been able
> to connect
> for the last 2 days.  Thanks

It's up and running, so the only problem I can think of is if your browser
caches the IP address.  If so, delete the entry for www.hplx.net in the
cache and have it do a DNS query again for www.hplx.net.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

ÝPrince of Persia¨
> Anyway, I tried mode bw80, mode mono, and mode bw40.  After
> several attempts I actually got the game to run once with
> the display working properly.  I played the first level but
> got killed at the end.  It seems like mode bw80 was the
> command that had preceded the successful run, but I've been
> absolutely unable to get it to run again.  What am I doing
> wrong?  Help?!

The command line "prince cga" should force PoP to run in CGA mode, if
that's any help.


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Date:         Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:16:48 -0800
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Folks,

I just saw a complete set of Agenda 2.0 manuals for $40.00 at a local
Cyber Exchange
the email address is
shop@cyber49.com

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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>I found Airtrax.. an air traffic controller game that works great on the
200LX
>
>AND....
>
>A util I have been trying to find for ages..  Its a dummy .SYS that causes a
>pause between each line of config.sys.  If you have ever had your system
>boot incorrectly after adding to config or Autoexec this is invaluable. I
>havent tested yet on the LX but it worked great on my old 286 under Dos 6.22
>
>Where do I send these for Super inclusion?

Send to mitch@palmtop.net as *.zip attachments

Owen

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>
> For instance.  The GSM standard is set at 9600BPS. Since the signal is
> Digital then the modem is effectively a connector only..
>

Great in theory, except that the price of the "connector only" solution
for my Ericsson phone is around US$400, about 10x a comparable analog
modem.

-Chris

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>Date:    Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:31:46 EST
>From:    "Peter W. Borders" 
>Subject: Re: DOS file 'times' question
>
>> Ah, I see, what you're referring to as FAT32 is what Microsoft
>> refers to as VFAT (Virtual FAT). I have been absolutely unable to
>> locate _any_ reference (including MSDN Library and TechNet) which
>> say
>
>Ok we are using two different names for the same thing basically.
>
>> The main point, however, remains: Win32 applications support,
>> through the operating system (NT3.5 or later, Win95 or later),
>> create, modify, and access times on _all_ FAT-type and NTFS disks,
>> includ
>
>This is what I disagree with. I have alot (~200) of win95 machines
>using a "normal" FAT16 filesystem. Of course win95 can write long
>file names but it DOES NOT store the extra time information, it only
>stores the modified time. Either that or none of win95's 32 bit apps,
>including windows explorer, can display them, which I would find
>rather unusual. Maybe I am missing something, if you have a FAT16
>partition how do YOU see the extra time information?
>
>Pete
>
>
Highlight the file and  brings up the properties; or =
right-click on the file and select "Properties" from there. Works on =
floppies and my LX's SUNDisk 10 MB (of course, the values for files =
which I didn't pull off the Omnibook are off the wall, but it finds =
something, somewhere to read.) and the values I see match the values in =
WinWord document properties. This works on my Omnibook 600/75 running =
4.0.950a on an Epson 340 MB PCMCIA Type 3 Drivespace 3'd to about 800 =
MB, my Omnibook 800/166 with 4 GB, OSR2, all FAT32 (check out =
MicroWarehouse for a great deal $999 incl. dock & CD-ROM drive), my =
other 800/166 running NT-5 Server and Win98 (FAT32) and my desktop =
running Win98 or NT4 server with both FAT16 and FAT32 drives, plus =
assorted other machines too numerous to mention. The info's there. I =
just wish I could find a definitive description of _exactly_ where in =
the directory entries it's supposed to be stored. Norton 3 for Win95 =
doesn't show it, and doesn't even want to look at my FAT32 drives, in =
spite of claiming Win98 compatibility. Modified & Accessed also show up =
in a DOS window with "DIR /V" command. Accessed from the command prompt =
doesn't have a time, just a date there, so I guess that was stored in =
some of the previously-reserved part of the DOS-compatible directory =
entry for the files.
>
>Peter W. Borders
>
>Network Support Technician
>Tidewater Community College
>tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
>
Jon

Jon Barrett
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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: Fluff - Re: Fluffy retort...


>Jon Barret:=20
>
>Great post on the "Stupidification of the American
>Phonetics" (SAP), of which Al Hobchi seems to be the
>originator, instigator and the "kultural" stronghold.=20
>
>I am amused, actually, for the first time!=20
>
>Well, on this occasion I will also take my leave from the
>list. It hasn't been nearly as fruitful and comfortable for
>the past few months, due to the visible deterioration of
>the quality of posts and ideas, apparently spearheaded by
>yor pal Al et al.=20
>
>So long.
>
>
Since there seems to be a little confusion - SAP is a German company =
(SAP Ag.) who developed and sell the latest in buzzwords - Enterprise =
Resource Planning software, specifically, SAP R3. It's supposed to be a =
full business management package, extensible to do anything. My wife's =
office is moving their manufacturing, inventory, payroll, etc. system =
over to that. The post was sent from one of the other people in the =
office and she forwarded it to me. I've seen it  ascribed to other =
topics as well.

Jon

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> I am hakving difficulty using an ACURITE DOUBLESLOT card adapter to
> transfer data between two cards that have been compressed with STACKER.
> The second card always comes up as an un-STACKED volume.  How do I get
> STACKER installed for a second card at e: or f:
>
> Thanks
>
I'll have to check the docs on stacker, but the line that starts stacker =
has
to include both drives. Hopefully it's in the instructions.

Darren.

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Thx.  Hd nt sn tht n a yl.

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   >> etc.  I'm not sure there's any solution to the problem.  I guess
   >>ideally,  all clients would wrap the lines automatically, but
   >>that's not the case.  Just one of those pesky annoyances we have
   >to live with...
Message-Id: <19981115070225.IURM748@Ý12.64.39.55¨>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 07:02:25 +0000

   >Ah yes ... yet another in the long list of reasons to use vi.  ;-)
   >Clark

I thought line wrap wasn't a feature in standard vi. I know enhanced Vim
has it...but don't you need an added program like Fmt to do simple
wrap and paragraph formatting in non-Vim versions?

- Longden

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> Morning y'all;
> I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
> why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd
> rather please those that had a kind thing to say.

So now you think that it's your duty to write all your crap to this list?
If you want people to have anything kind to say to you- then stop to play
clown and start to be a normal member of this list- which is about HP DOS
palmtop PC's by the way!

Regards,

Jorgen

P.S. Since you seams to preffer to play clown that discuss the
HP 95/100/200LX palmtop- I am sure you can find an e-mail list which is
for fluff and other fun!

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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> > Morning y'all;
> > I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
> > why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd
> > rather please those that had a kind thing to say.
>
> So now you think that it's your duty to write all your crap to this list?
> If you want people to have anything kind to say to you- then stop to play
> clown and start to be a normal member of this list- which is about HP DOS
> palmtop PC's by the way!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> P.S. Since you seams to preffer to play clown that discuss the
> HP 95/100/200LX palmtop- I am sure you can find an e-mail list which is
> for fluff and other fun!
>

Bravo, Jorgen!

David, WA7ZYQ

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>    >Ah yes ... yet another in the long list of reasons to use vi.  ;-)
>    >Clark
>
> I thought line wrap wasn't a feature in standard vi. I know enhanced Vim
> has it...but don't you need an added program like Fmt to do simple
> wrap and paragraph formatting in non-Vim versions?

I *think* you're right, Logden.  But the fmt program comes with the
Elvis distribution of vi that I normally use.  Sometimes I use calvin,
too, but don't recall whether or not it works with it or not.  That
would be the = command.  For example, =} would reformat a paragraph.

Recently, I was playing with a Windows version of vim called gvim.  I
noticed that the = command didn't work.  I contacted the author, and
he acknowledged that fact.  But suggested I use the "standard" vi
re-formatting command gQ}, for example, to reformat a paragraph.  This
works indeed in gvim, but I haven't experimented with other versions.
I think this could be one of those vim extensions you mention.

-Chris


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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
>
> > Morning y'all;
> > I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
> > why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd
> > rather please those that had a kind thing to say.
>
> So now you think that it's your duty to write all your crap to this list?
> If you want people to have anything kind to say to you- then stop to play
> clown and start to be a normal member of this list- which is about HP DOS
> palmtop PC's by the way!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
> P.S. Since you seams to preffer to play clown that discuss the
> HP 95/100/200LX palmtop- I am sure you can find an e-mail list which is
> for fluff and other fun!

Geez Jorgen, lighten up....
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Nick Marsh
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> >    >Ah yes ... yet another in the long list of reasons to use vi.  ;-)
> >    >Clark
> >
> > I thought line wrap wasn't a feature in standard vi. I know enhanced Vim
> > has it...but don't you need an added program like Fmt to do simple
> > wrap and paragraph formatting in non-Vim versions?
>
> I *think* you're right, Logden.  But the fmt program comes with the
> Elvis distribution of vi that I normally use.  Sometimes I use calvin,
> too, but don't recall whether or not it works with it or not.  That
> would be the = command.  For example, =} would reformat a paragraph.

Erm, Elvis is a _much_ improved vi clone (a bit like Vim), so I wouldn't
be surprised if it has added built-in paragraph formatting as well. The
newest version of Elvis has an HTML-browser, syntax highlighting, multiple
files open at the same time, and several other nice features. Too bad it
runs way too slow on the LX (you press a key, you wait, the letter appears
on the screen...)


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 04:37:52 GMT
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di980769@DIKU.DK said:
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> The command line "prince cga" should force PoP to run in CGA mode, if
> that's any help.

You're a *genius* -- it works perfectly.  Thanks!

Ted Heise

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On 1998-11-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I *think* you're right, Logden.  But the fmt program comes with the
   >Elvis distribution of vi that I normally use.  Sometimes I use
   >calvin, too, but don't recall whether or not it works with it or
   >not.  That would be the = command.  For example, =} would reformat
   >a paragraph.

I think Brendan mentioned using Fmt in conjunction with Calvin some time
ago. I got a copy and tried it.

   >Recently, I was playing with a Windows version of vim called gvim.
   >I noticed that the = command didn't work.  I contacted the author,
   >and he acknowledged that fact.  But suggested I use the "standard"
   >vi re-formatting command gQ}, for example, to reformat a paragraph.
   >This works indeed in gvim, but I haven't experimented with other
   >versions. I think this could be one of those vim extensions you
   >mention.

Yes, I got a copy of Vim 3 from Brendan and use it on my LX to keep my Vi
skills from completely degenerating (tho some people would probably
consider any Vi user to be already a lost cause  ). Doing strictly
mainframe stuff these days, and Vi remains my only link to the Unix world.
And the command is indeed Q} to reformat (to the end of the paragraph).

I've also loaded a mainframe style editor onto the LX (SPFPC, v2.1) and
it works fine, tho it's worlds apart from Vi. It can deal with wordwrap
by the way, but its strength comes in editing data, particularly if it's
organized in neat columns...so typical of its mainframe heritage.

The only pity is that the version that supports edit macros requires a
386 processor.

So between the two editor styles, you can imagine I'm totally schizophrenic
at this point, or maybe multiple personality would be more accurate.

- Longden

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Hi everyone. =)  I can't seem to find any information
about the mono8025 in the 200LX manual. =(  If I want
to start a program in mono 80x25 mode, do I just run
mono8025 just before running it?  What are the command
line arguments if any? =)  Are there any options?


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Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER 11/11/96.

Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support with the
site.

I have a bunch of stuff backlogged for update now as I have been out of town,
but I will get to it later today or tomorrow.

Mitch
SUPER Team

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tar xvf .tar

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Jeff wrote:

> Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
> a .tar file?
>
> 73 Jeff
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is there a way to boot from my pcmia drive?  i have a double speed 32meg
supercarousel, bu i would also like to boot withoutloading
supercarousel(avoids conflicts that i am encountering).  i have tried
many times but eventually i get to a screen that is off center.  could
some one send me an autoexec.bat (do i need a config.sys) that will
allow me to do this.  if possible i would like to run buddy and irda and
andrew3 in this session.   any help would be greatly appreciated

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Of course, nobody can please everybody ... but you don't
have to.

As a *non-English speaking* "subscriber," I have hard time
reading Al's postings.  For example, I might read "kase" as
"cash", "cache", "case", or a totally new word in dis kase.
I have to go back to read the whole sentence.

Please don't say "why don't you just skip them?" because then
anybody can post messages in any spelling (or even in any
language) that they like and those who are confused/annoyed
can just skip them ... what a pain in the behind!

Maybe it is a matter of respect.  If you know how to spell but
you choose not to, then you might not respect the non-English
speaking "mailing list" subscribers.

If this list doesn't care about that, then probably it is time
for me to say goodbye to the list.

Cheers,
Sentot Adiprasena
Jakarta, Indonesia

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From: al chin 
Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 21:23
Subject: Re: ÝFLUFF¨ screen cleaning


Morning y'all;
I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd
rather please those that had a kind thing to say.

Some say, yu skip my msgs, others say, I have
nothing to say, those that like it read it, so in that
kase, the situation doth do pls everybodies, no?

Ýdel¨

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mitchell hamm wrote:
>
> Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER 11/11/96.
> Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support with the
> site.

Happy Birthday to SUPER
Happy Birthday to SUPER
Happy Birthday, dear Palmtop Network,
Happy Birthday to you.

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              Al Kind 
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Greetings All:

     Please direct all comments about HPLX-L LIST policy privatly to
me. I am in the process of evaluating new policy and will implement
such within the week. While the new policies will be more restrictive,
they should help to keep to the topic at hand (or should I say at
"palm")

Cheers & thanks for your patience,

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I got a bit carried away in my last posting. Silverado lets you do many
things with your data, but has its drawbacks.

Aditional things to consider:
1) Imports dBase files and converts them to a proprietary SSd format, and
insists on creating an index file as well.
A 10.000 record dBase testfile of 311k inflated to a 412k ssd, plus a 144k
index file.
'was read OK by 1-2-3 tho'.
The plus side is that it also imports ASCII, so that it may be used on a
wide variety of data.
2) It is still listed by CA as software they acknowledge. Slim chance of
"abandonware" status, I suppose...

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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:15:48 -0500, mitchell hamm wrote:

>Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER =
11/11/96.
>
>Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support =
with the
>site.

Good grief - two years already!  Happy birthday indeed, and thanks to =
*you*
Mitch for all your hard work in keeping it afloat.=20

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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mitchell hamm wrote:
>
> Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER 11/11/96.
>
> Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support with the
> site.
>
> I have a bunch of stuff backlogged for update now as I have been out of town,
> but I will get to it later today or tomorrow.
>
> Mitch
> SUPER Team

Happy Birthday Mitch and SUPER!
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              Brendan Macmillan 
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> I think Brendan mentioned using Fmt in conjunction with Calvin some time
> ago. I got a copy and tried it.
Yes, it works, I use it all the time. ;-)


> Yes, I got a copy of Vim 3 from Brendan and use it on my LX
Unfortunately, Q} doesn't seem to work in Vim3. You can't use fmt,
because there's insufficient memory to start an external program... (it
seems). This is even without SysMan (ie in pure DOS).


> its strength comes in editing data, particularly if it's
> organized in neat columns...so typical of its mainframe heritage.
Hmmm.


> So between the two editor styles, you can imagine I'm totally schizophrenic
> at this point, or maybe multiple personality would be more accurate.
And personality that uses vi must itself surely be quite unstable!
Vi's just that kind of editor!

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:54:39 GMT
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              Russel Brooks 
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Here's one possible and one definite solution to large flash
cards and the large cluster sizes they require.

1. Can you partition a flash card into multiple drives?

2. You could run SecureDevice and create several large encrypted
   disks on the flash card.  Example: A 440 meg card forces 8K
   clusters but the only files you put on the card are several
   128 meg files that represent the SecureDevice encrypted drives.
   The files you store in those drives will use 2K clusters (or
   4K clusters if you use encrypted drives between 128 and 256 meg).

SecureDevice is good stuff.  It uses the IDEA cipher which is
supposed to be very good.  (I'm not an encryption expert so I can
only hope this is true.)

Of course, if you don't need the encryption you're still going to
have it there and it will impose a small performance price.

I have a small 32K file on my C: drive which represents my
logical F: drive. I keep a couple of files of personal confidential
data on it like a file with all my userids and passwords.

Cheers...
Russ

Single speed 4 meg 200LX + 10 meg flash.

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> Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support with the
> site.

Well, as long as you mentioned it .... Thanks for your efforts on our
behalf.

Fred

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Russel Brooks wrote:
>
> Here's one possible and one definite solution to large flash
> cards and the large cluster sizes they require.
> 1. Can you partition a flash card into multiple drives?

According to the developer's guide, the palmtop will automatically
recognize a second partition on a flash card as drive B:.  But I have thus
far been unable to find software capable of partitioning a flash card
(well, more than one partition, I mean).

I like the idea of using SecureDevice, though.  How large is the driver?

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At 05:35 PM 15/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Russel Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Here's one possible and one definite solution to large flash
>> cards and the large cluster sizes they require.
>> 1. Can you partition a flash card into multiple drives?
Hi all

Is the driver Anydrive needed here?

It is a driver that allows translation from older bios's..

I'll send if it might solve a problem..


Russell

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Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:42:11 -0500 (EST)

10h26m23s ago ...
On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, mitchell hamm wrote:

> Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support
> with the site.

Congratulations!  And thank YOU, Mitch.  8-)

-Peniel
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In a message dated 98-11-15 15:30:31 EST, you write:

<<
 Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER 11/11/96.
  >>

Happy Birthday indeed!  Without S.U.P.E.R., and the help of this List, I would
never have gotten 1/10th of the potential from my palm-top.  Thanks to one and
all!

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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              Owen Samuelson 
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Well it finally happend.
I think the number of messages about Al's spelling has surpassed the number
of message that Al has ever sent to the list!

If you don't like his style you have the right to skip his messages. But he
has the right to send them any way he wants too.

Kase Klosed!
Owen

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:38:54 -0500
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At 10:15 AM 11/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER 11/11/96.
>
>Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued support
with the
>site.
>
Hey, thats my birthday too. But, I went up on 11/11/59. :)

Owen KU4ET

P.S. What a S.U.P.E.R. resource it is.

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> Happy Birthday indeed!  Without S.U.P.E.R., and the help of this List,
> I would never have gotten 1/10th of the potential from my palm-top.
> Thanks to one and all!

HEAR! HEAR!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ...


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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:01:36 -0600
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Subject:      Anybody got one for sale?

Does anyone on the list have either a HP48 or 95LX for sale? I've got a
friend in Canada that is looking for one to run some satellite tracking
software. If you have one, email me with the price and details and I'll pass
the information on to the interested party.

73 Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:07:53 EDT
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              Darren Frick 
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What's the smallest converter for turning graphics files to .fax? Isn't =
.fax
just a .tiff format? I don't care, I just want to use ACE fax and send =
some
graphics. Ace's sendfax mentions using the high res setting if you send
graphics. There isn't any conversion prog, though. Lx pic wont output to
.fax or .tiff  --- TIA.

Darren.

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Is there a way to create a topcard for the LX using the LX? I have made a
few custom topcards but have done so on a desktop then downloaded them to
the LX but would like to do it using nothing but the LX. Does anyone have
any suggestions/comments?

73 Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:06:36 +1300
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I would just like to thank the guys at Thaddeus - they repaired my display
at less than half the price that local HP branch quoted. In addition my
battery cover (of which the little pegs on the sides has broken long ago)
has been replaced - I did not even mention it. The other surprise was that
my HP200LX was back in New Zealand in a bit more than two weeks - just
getting a quote from HP took more than a week here (and the branch is right
here in Wellington!).

Just one thing does anyone know what the device driver: acecard.com does? I
have had the double speed upgrade and had problem writing to my 40Mb Epson
card. After reading the instructions (As usual I only read this after I have
a problem.) which indicated that the combination of acecard.com + ACE Double
Flash+ + speed upgrade caused problems and that I should remove this driver,
everything went smoothly.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

(One more happy customer)

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:54:16 +0100
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Hello everyone,

I have Accton(OEM) Ethernet card And Would like to telnet ftp and more
TCP/IP'ing with my 200LX. Do anybody know what I need to do this and if it
is possible with link where to get(better for free).
And maybe somebody know is it exist ssh(Secure Shell client) for DOS.

Thanx and Happy burthday PALMTOP.NET .

+---------------------------------------------------------------+
 Alexander Stanovoy 
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 Phone: +370-2-730970; FAX:+370-2-730959; Mobile:+370-99-14421
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:25:49 +0100
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

How much slower than the regular C drive is it?

Depending on how slow it is, and if you don't need the encryption, then it
might actually be better to use Stacker or a similar compression program.
Not only does it use a small cluster size, but it also compresses, giving
you even more space! (but it may be slower than SecDev)

If memory serves, part of Norton Utilities was also an encryption program
similar to SecDev. Not as strong encryption, but it may be faster.



Regards,

Laust

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Happy Birthday S.U.P.E.R. and....
Happy Birthday for my 4 year old 200lx!!!

 Happy Birthday indeed!  Without S.U.P.E.R., and the help of this List,
> I would never have gotten 1/10th of the potential from my palm-top.
> Thanks to one and all!



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You may also use Windows WinZip.


Jeff wrote:
>
> Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
> a .tar file?

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:48:13 -0000
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All

Can anyone tell me what the spec is for PCMCIA
memory cards for a 200lx. I have heard that not all
flash cards work with it.

Thanks

David

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 05:10:49 -0500
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Silverado can use memo fields too ?

At 01:04 PM 11/14/1998 +0100, you wrote:
>I have now dug out an old 5 1/4" drive, and rummaged about in my garage.
>There I came across an old version of Silverado!
>Silverado is a Computer Associates add-inn for 1-2-3 that lets you do real
>relational database management through 1-2-3. This means things like
>* Create and edit dBase files
>* Sift through larger than memory databases
>* Joins, Selects, Projects, Appends on multiple databases
>* Crosstabs
>* Report generator
>* Forms view / spreadsheet view / crosstab view
>* Advanced Filters and searches
>Now for the flip side:
>* Requires 124k TSR to be loaded BEFORE 200 command
>* Requires Silverado add-in as well 26k
>* Uses min. 32k data "window" for database processing
>* Uses 1-2-3 memory for output of searches/tables/etc
>* 1-2-3 left with 164k dataspace whwn Silverado is functional
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On Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:16:48 -0800, Patrick West  =
wrote:

pc> Folks,
pc>
pc> I just saw a complete set of Agenda 2.0 manuals for $40.00 at a local
pc> Cyber Exchange
pc> the email address is
pc> shop@cyber49.com
pc>
So you're the one who keeps beating me to the cutout rack. What
Patrick doesn't include is that they have a large selection of old DOS
software, usually with manuals. Not necessarily cheep, but there. If
you're looking for something, give them a try. I don't have any
connection other than as a customer.

Paul
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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:30:29 -0800, "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D."  wrote:

An> is there a way to boot from my pcmia drive?  i have a double speed =
32meg
An> supercarousel, bu i would also like to boot withoutloading
An> supercarousel(avoids conflicts that i am encountering).  i have tried
An> many times but eventually i get to a screen that is off center.  =
could
An> some one send me an autoexec.bat (do i need a config.sys) that will
An> allow me to do this.  if possible i would like to run buddy and irda =
and
An> andrew3 in this session.   any help would be greatly appreciated

    You have to load your doublespeed driver to avoid the screen problem
and stacker/jam drivers, if you use compression. This us usually done
in the config.sys. I think SUPER has a program that simplifies multiple
loading configurations. Check it out, it is done all the time, just not
by me.

regards

Paul

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On Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:15:48 -0500, mitchell hamm  =
wrote:

mi> Another year has slipped past. The first files went up on SUPER =
11/11/96.
mi>
mi> Happy birthday SUPER and thanks to everyone for your continued =
support with the
mi> site.
Well happy birthday yourself. SUPER has been an invaluable resource to
me as I stumble toward some kind of LX compentancy. My sincerest thanks
for your efforts.

Paul
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:54:39 -0000
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I found that in our chucking-out pile in one office a boxed, still
shrink-wrapped set of Lotus Symphony.   They used different plastic back
then to shrink-wrap, good tough stuff.  Anyhow all I got to so far was the
system requirements, I see I must go get an upgrade as it needs 5Mb of HDD
space and some LIMS EMS.

Am I right in thinking that with a 32Mb upgrade one can do both, i.e. make a
nice big C: drive and also have some EMS ?

It's kind of nice seeing software that talks about expansion memory 'as big
as 4Mb'.

William D.Ll.Brown

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:03:23 EDT
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> Is there a way to create a topcard for the LX using the LX? I have made =
a
> few custom topcards but have done so on a desktop then downloaded them =
to
> the LX but would like to do it using nothing but the LX. Does anyone =
have
> any suggestions/comments?
>
> 73 Jeff
>
The best way to do that would be to use a paint programme on the lx and =
save
as PCX. Nothing built in like for icons, though.

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:24:56 -0300
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Maybe, al-chin could be a new prototype of a true "rebel"...
Next year's Nobel prize of Literature for you, Al Chin.
:-)

Pablo KIM
PD: As my english is very bad and worst "al chin" language,   where can I
find a good "al chin-english" dictionary?
:-)

Laust Brock-Nannestad  wrote:
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Date:    Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:24:23 +0100
From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad 
Subject: Re: Fluffy retort...

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm not bothered by his writing, and I would recommend not getting so
> worked up about something one cant change.  I could understand being
> frustrated if you had to lookup words like "nutting, kan & dey" in a
> translation dictionary.  If you cant read it, just move on to the next
> message, right?

By "something one cant change" you must refer to al's attitude and not his
writing, as several posts show him capable of better English than his
regular posts display.

This is really what bothers me. Not that he writes poorly (if that was the
best English he could manage then I could understand and respect that),
but that he insists on writing worse English than he is capable of, for no
apparent reason.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:28:22 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" 
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I put a Public Domain utility  on S.U.P.E.R. called XEQ. You can use it to
store small com files with in its structure. This can save a lot of space
for small programs. It will allow you to run the file from within just need
to add a step. I re named my copy C.com to run a program I just type C hdir
and the program runs. It might be worth looking at if your problem is small
program files.


Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE¨
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 1998 6:54 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      allocation unit size
>
> > > 440MB card allocation unit size?
> >
> > No need to go to Vegas for that! 8192 bytes.
>
> That's what I feared. This fits better for Windows and WinCE,
> where filesize is counted in MB. But on the palmtop I keep many
> files with less than 1KB. I recently reduced my allocation unit
> size on my 10MB SanDisk to 512 bytes. My 50 BAT files now only
> use 50*512=25KB. On the 440MB disk they would need 50*8192=400KB!
> I hope, that utilities to change the allocation unit size will
> work on the new 440MB flash cards. I used BOOTDMOD. It's
> advantage over 1KCLUST is, that it allows you to go down to 512
> byte allocation unit size and to reduce the number of root
> directory entries.
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:31:04 +0100
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Has anyone managed to build a System Manager compliant application in
C++?

I've tried both with NKIT (from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html) and
with LXREF (from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/),
but somehow the startup code supplied with those kits does not work with
Turbo C++ 3.0 or with Ms C++ 1.52. The application just crashes on
startup, and a cold reset is needed.

Thanks in advance,
Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:30:33 -0500
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Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:24:52 -0500 (EST)

Jeff-

You can use FingerPaint on Super.  Not sure of the file name, but a
search for "paint" should find it.  If you have a store that has old
software, there's an oldie called Key Paint2000 that I use.  Found it
in the closeout bin at Office Depot about 3 years ago...  Both run fine
on the palmtops.

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:33:55 -0600
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Hi,

I beleive it is :

decompression:
        tar -xvf 
listing:
        tar -tvf 

Be carefull when you extract the files. I think it is best to look at a
listing to see what the directory structure is.  Many times it starts from
the root , which means you need to "cd /" before you untar it.  Other times,
it is relative to your current path depending on who tar'ed it.

Jon


> ----------
> From:         JeffÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Jeff
> Sent:         Friday, November 13, 1998 11:29 AM
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> Can any Linux guru on the list tell me which command to use to decompress
> a .tar file?
>
> 73 Jeff
>
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:41:00 -0600
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Hi,

---------

> From:         Russell HemeryÝSMTP:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨
> Subject:      Where to upload?
>
        .......I found Airtrax.. an air traffic controller game that works
great on the 200LX.....Is there any interest in either of these progs?


-------
Airtrax please.

TIA
Jon

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:35:29 -0000
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I swear by Partition Magic but I've no idea if it would like a PC card.
You'd be running it with the card in a Win95 or similar PC.  The only PC
card I have is 512kb so it's not really an issue.   I'm not sure how low an
allocation unit size it will support.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:57:30 -0500
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mono8025 is a command found on the d: drive of your palmtop. There is
also a program on Super call zoom that is an even better alternative.
Zoom allows for just about all possible mono and  color modes on the HP.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kymberly Carleton Ýmailto:kylana@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 1998 9:38 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ mono8025
>
>
> Hi everyone. =)  I can't seem to find any information
> about the mono8025 in the 200LX manual. =(  If I want
> to start a program in mono 80x25 mode, do I just run
> mono8025 just before running it?  What are the command
> line arguments if any? =)  Are there any options?
>
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:58:24 -0600
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I have tried CSHOW and it's _way_ too slow.  Anyone have an animated GIF
player that runs satisfactorily on the 200LX(double speed)?  Thanks in
advance.  Please email binary files to my address.

Happy birthday S.U.P.E.R.

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:06:54 -0500
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I've successfully gotten my NECX PCMCIA adapter up in Win95.  Thank you
list members for your assistance so far.  Still trying on NT, but
absolutely no luck in finding a driver yet.  My question is how do I
read a stacked flash card in this slot?  I can see the card, but stacker
isn't loaded and I can only see the stackvol.dsk and other main files
(bear with me, that name was from memory, I'm at work without my
palmtop...I'll now bare my back for the public flogging).  I've tried
loading stacker in a DOS session in 95 but that tells me to load stacker
before loading 95.  I've tried adding it to the configuration, but no
luck.  If anyone has an example config.sys/autoexec.bat showing how to
do this or a solution to do this directly in 95, I'd appreciate it.

Opinion:  I've read some of the posts about off-topic posting and
appropriate spelling, fluff, etc.  Being a member of another list with
over 1600 members and the topic content highly technical, we find
ourselves occasionally running off-topic.  The list founders may post a
reminder about appropriateness of posts and things return to normal.  If
the problem persists, the offending list member is removed.  So far we
have removed one member for such problems.  Having a solid set of rules
is essential and having the list members follow the rules with courtesy
and respect goes a long way to making a list a valuable resource.  If
people don't respect others, I think you'll find the first to leave the
list are the "guru's" that are here to help the rest of us out.  I don't
want to sound like Kyle's Mom here, just a reminder that as was pointed
out, there are many languages represented and an occasional forray into
humorous mis-steaks of spelling are going to pop up, try not to make it
near impossible to read.  I have gone right by alot of those psots
because I can't easily read them.  I only hope the post didn't contain
information that I could have used.  I'm here primarily to learn about
my palmtop and how to make my life easier with it (as most others are).
I'd hate to see the list turn into a pissing contest because we'd all
lose an excellent resource.  Sorry for the length, but I just had to
make my observation from the viewpoint of a palmtop novice looking for
assistance and knowledge.  I do believe this is the place to find it,
just my rose colored glasses don't seem to filter out the frivolity at
times.

Dan McCann
82gntrbo@sgi.net

PS  Happy B-Day S.U.P.E.R. - another valued resource....THANKS!

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:18:24 -0800
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I tried PM (forgot what version) and it didn't recognize my flash card as a
legitimate drive. There may have been a trick or two I overlooked at the
time tho...as I wasn't really interested in re-partitioning the card as
much as playing around with the cluster allocation sizes (which I wasn't
able to do).

I think I tried to run it directly from the LX and it complained about the
processor. And running it on my PC while the LX was connected via Interlnk
gave me the
"illegal drive" message.

If anyone actually uses PM to diddle with their flash card, I'd appreciate
any details and tips.

- Longden





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I swear by Partition Magic but I've no idea if it would like a PC card.
You'd be running it with the card in a Win95 or similar PC.  The only PC
card I have is 512kb so it's not really an issue.   I'm not sure how low an
allocation unit size it will support.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:31:55 -0600
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Greetings from Las Vegas Comdex.

Just wanted to tell anyone who is interested that our prices for
upgraded palmtops and used palmtops have been reduced 12-35%.  (See
PalmtopPaper.COM).  (Note that printed catalogs won't be received for
another 2 weeks so this is an "early" notice).

Hal Goldstein
Thaddeus Computing
www.thaddeus.com or www.palmtoppaper.com
110 N. Court
Fairfield, IA 52556
800 373 6114/515 472 1879
fax: 515 472 1879
orders@thaddeus.com (general info)

hal@thaddeus.com

P.S.  Sales have gone very well, so this is a proactive move because our
costs have gone done, not a reactive move.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:39:38 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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I'm using Lotus Notes to respond and I haven't figured a good way to reply
with my responses "in context", so if anyone can offer advice, I'm
listening.
Notes doesn't seem to offer the bracketing or marking of responses (that
are common to the other email packages I've tried) to allow interleaving of
your responses with the sender as well as editing their responses and
otherwise horribly misquoting them out of context ..... as we have such fun
doing!

Now about Vi and Vim....

Brendan, I've been able to do paragraph reformatting on my LX using Vim 3
and the Q} command (you have to set the default text width first... ala
":set tw=65" to set the wrap at column 65). For this reason, I haven't
taken the time to learn to use Fmt. I run Vim 3 within Sysman in 294k of
memory, which is workable as long as you don't use external tools such as
Fmt.

And you're right, we're quite deranged.





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> I think Brendan mentioned using Fmt in conjunction with Calvin some time
> ago. I got a copy and tried it.
Yes, it works, I use it all the time. ;-)


> Yes, I got a copy of Vim 3 from Brendan and use it on my LX
Unfortunately, Q} doesn't seem to work in Vim3. You can't use fmt,
because there's insufficient memory to start an external program... (it
seems). This is even without SysMan (ie in pure DOS).

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:04:24 -0600
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I have tried CSHOW and it's _way_ too slow.  Anyone have an animated GIF
> player that runs satisfactorily on the 200LX(double speed)?  Thanks in
> advance.  Please email binary files to my address.

LXPIC will play animated GIF's.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:35:47 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I have tried CSHOW and it's _way_ too slow.  Anyone have an animated GIF
> player that runs satisfactorily on the 200LX(double speed)?  Thanks in
> advance.  Please email binary files to my address.

Doesn't LXPIC handle animated GIFs?


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:19:45 -0000
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Just to put all your minds to rest, the CE marking on many electrical items
is not an indication of "Microsoft Inside", it simply indicates the
equipment meets certain European standards regarding its susceptibility to
and its generation of electrical interference,

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:39:28 -0800
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I'm considering purchasing a cheap laptop as an extension to my Palmtop. =
 Mostly to use the keyboard and PCMCIA slot to backup and update data.

After buying the December issue of COMPUTER SHOPPER I found 48 laptops =
for under $500USD.  I even made a GDB file if anyone is interested.

My question is... I'm looking into a IBM TP700 (486SL/25) for $195 and =
would like to know if anyone has experience with same.  I remember some =
old laptop keyboards were hard to type on (keys were stubborn).  I also =
need to find our if my 20MB Viking Flash card will be recognized.  How =
hard is it to setup the drivers in DOS?

Any advice?

Don.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:57:19 -0600
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LXPIC seems to be the program of choice.  Another member has provided me
with a copy and in a few minutes I'll be smiling and mostly enjoying the
day. :)

Thanks
Phil

>Doesn't LXPIC handle animated GIFs?
>
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>
>Laust
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:19:08 -0500
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Subject:      On flash cards and patitions.

        Hello all,

    As the topic surfaced with Stefan Peichl's question about cluster
    sizes on new huge flash cards, I'd like to ask some questions:

    Didn't R. L. Dubs wrote in his Minix porting documents that LX
    dislikes cards with 2 or more partitions, regardless of which
    OS has the first part. ? He could not use one such made card.
    I wonder if it worth trying the "extended partition" idea that
    was incorporated in MS-DOS 3.30 ?

    Why is that flash+SRAM combo cards are no longer made? Right
    now, when 48MB CF is mainstream; one firm could strip CF-sized
    flash drive guts and combine it with up to 10MB SRAM (say, from
    Psion SSD disks). Such a device would have great advanteges, as
    fast SRAM would allow for real EMS use, even at single speed, etc.
    And flash offers ample stationary storage. All in one.

    Thanks to everyone for all the OGO700LX feedback. Seems like inte-
    rest in this platform is growing, probably because they are chea-
    per than the same specs. 200LX. If only H-P decided to release a
    newer machine that docks w/ much smaller Nokia 5110/6110 phones.
    That could probably be regular 200LX footprint.

                 Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:24:10 -0800
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> My question is... I'm looking into a IBM TP700 (486SL/25) for $195

My favorite inexpensive laptop has got to be the Compaq Aero.  I used
to have a 4/33C (486slc @33, color display).  They were also available
as the 4/25 (486slc @25, mono).  Nice and light, and they fit perfectly
in those zippered hardbound book covers (had mine in a Gregg cover).

They had a tiny trackball by the lower right of the keyboard, with
the buttons on the side.  Very nice placement, you'd work the trackball
with your thumb.

The primary downside to them was 1) only 16 colors on the color version,
and 2) trackball size very suceptible to lint/dirt easily prevented with a
CleanTrack seal)

As with the LX, the Aero has/had a very dedicated group of followers on
a mailing list (which I used to be very active on).

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:30:12 -0500
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If your willing to wait a bit, I have a feeling that the Libretto 50ct
will be avilable as a refurb pretty soon. I see many of the accessories
being phased out and the laptop itself has already been phased out.
Toshiba may have a stock of refurb units they will probably unload after
extisting warantees expire. If you need one now then be prepared to pay
around $500 for a refurb. You may also want to check onsale.com for
sales on 486 laptops.



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> From: Steven Lawson Ýmailto:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM¨
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> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ HP200LX extension
>
>
> > My question is... I'm looking into a IBM TP700 (486SL/25) for $195
>
> My favorite inexpensive laptop has got to be the Compaq Aero.  I used
> to have a 4/33C (486slc @33, color display).  They were also available
> as the 4/25 (486slc @25, mono).  Nice and light, and they fit
> perfectly
> in those zippered hardbound book covers (had mine in a Gregg cover).
>
> They had a tiny trackball by the lower right of the keyboard, with
> the buttons on the side.  Very nice placement, you'd work the
> trackball
> with your thumb.
>
> The primary downside to them was 1) only 16 colors on the
> color version,
> and 2) trackball size very suceptible to lint/dirt easily
> prevented with a
> CleanTrack seal)
>
> As with the LX, the Aero has/had a very dedicated group of
> followers on
> a mailing list (which I used to be very active on).
>
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:45:19 -0500
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Hello all,

Remember this thread? Mitch has posted my program called "trainsch" to
Super (Thanks, Mitch.). It is a small simple program for displaying a
train schedule maintained in a text file with fixed length records. The
source code is included. It's not much but I hope someone finds it
useful.

BTW: I compiled it as a .exe but if compiled as a .com it will take less
RAM to run. As a .com file I was able to run it in as little as 48K
free. You can recompile it yourself if you get the ASIC 5.0 compiler
from Simtel. I didn't realize that it ran better as a .com file until
after I sent it.:¬(

Later.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:03:13 -0500
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              Feher Tamas 
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Subject:      Innovation rate is falling.

        Hello all,

    Don't get me wrong, but I feel HPLX invention rate is falling.

    If you plan to buy a second/third 200LX before HP drops produc-
    tion after 2000; then you probably expect to use that until at
    least 2003. By that time the recent HW-SW development spiral
    will create such computing environments, that can be matched
    (functionally, not eye candy) by HPLX only if big and complex
    suites will be written for the hardware platform. How to do that,
    especially if work is done on free basis; not by commercial
    companies for lack of market?

    Most of what possible on generic PC/XT has long been written. But
    the 100/200LX is NOT a generic XT! It has EMS; question is what
    release (3.3 or 4.0) and full or partial? If it's full 4.0, with
    total hardware compliance; than there's a way out of the 640KB
    pitfall. Programs running directly from EMS can have up to 8/32
    megs of flat space. It's mandatory to take advance of this, as;

    If programming habits do not change and most newer additions
    remain tiny (very useful BTW) .coms; under 100k .exes; then
    most users can start looking for bail out path. Recently the
    list is dominated by connectivity related topics and it's easy
    to see that even by now, programs related to or dedicated to
    connecting and converting from Wintel and access to online
    information cannot be done in smaller than big form factor.
    Very soon old coding habits will not be able to do the job in
    just 640KB. Eg.:

    Browsers using conventional RAM will be rendered unusable with-
    in 6-8 mo.; if recent trend of framing all webpages continues
    and the usual number of proprietary additions by MS/Netscape
    come into the picture. Also you can't do a Java VM in 640KB.

    So who's willing to learn how to code it; who can help getting
    information? Contacting humans at top500 companies became very
    hard in last few months. And noone I got to email at Lotus-Intel-
    Microsoft seemed to know what expanded memory is.

    Flash cards should be dealt with: multiple partitions, power
    issues, wake-up-read delay, double-slot adapter problems, etc.
    And if all is done, then lets put different OSes into PCMCIA.

    Maybe more OSes are a few men's mania; but let's face that
    non-virtual mode CPUs and DOS are at the edge of extinction.
    Should uses of the device differentiate and move into niche
    markets, medium term survival might be possible.

    I wonder if an industrialized 200LX could be home-made: regular
    machine gutted, and MoBo+LCD fitted into a ruggedized metal box
    that is as big as a flattened out palmtop. With moisture-proof
    keyboard overlay and watertight I/O slots, that should be ideal
    for setting up a tiny QNX ver.2.4 system on the fly. With 64MB,
    DS, 1 parallel (Trandigital PCMCIA) and 1 serial port; it's ideal
    for control purposes. PC104 form factor somehow lost popularity,
    this cost efficient solution seems preferrable. Why the hell QNX
    was never ported to the HPLX? (I know it costs a lot...)

    Minix and ELKS are a must. Un*x (esp. Linux) is the hope of the
    better part of computing community. Minix is stong with educa-
    tion, Aemoba worth looking at for palmtop networking.

    Different DOS versions are welcome as well. There is a slight
    chance, that OpenDOSes will catch on. Also IBM is expected to
    further elaborate IBM DOS 2000 and release a version that tries
    to fix non-Y2K programs with SYS internal runtimes.

    And to have all these, it is finally necessary to get some com-
    pany information from H-P. Either clearance to contact individu-
    als and query for tech details, or company abandonment policy of
    the gee-whiz palmtop line. A quest might start with request for
    dj346 and irda200 source to write a better program providing both
    IR functionality in one piece; and end in getting overkill IRQ2
    and memory layout info. All depends on if H-P still values the
    more tech-related crowd vs. GUI guys.

    Innovation hardware-wise is welcome as well:10% CPU power increase
    by making the 18MHz upgrade commercially available vs. recent 16.
    Price drop of 32/64MB upgrade, 96MB progress.
    Common pointer solution, probably underside track-pad; serial-to-
    parallel converter that's specialy suited for the LX: small size
    (possibly clip-on to LX side) and self-powered. Alternative power
    to help feeding damn-big flash cards: solar cells onto top shell?

            Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:42:00 -0500
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I have several brand new Megahertz XJ2144 PCMCIA Gold Series Data/Fax Modems
with XJACK for sale.  These are in factory sealed static bags, including
manual and phone cable.  I have tested one of these in the HP200lx and it
worked fine.  The asking price is $26.50 including USPS Priority 2 Day
shipping anywhere in the United States.  Please respond by private email to
jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.



John Guenther

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:47:11 -0600
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

>         ...  Please email binary files to my address.
>

Man, that's *asking* for trouble!  :)

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:18:33 +1100
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> Anyone have an animated GIF player that runs satisfactorily on the
> 200LX(double speed)?

Phil, I believe the most popular program on SUPER does what you want
- I think it's called "lxpic".


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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:19:58 +0100
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Anyone has tried this card? I'm considering to buy it...
Any opinion?

                        Tnx a lot
                        Raffaele

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Longden,

> Brendan, I've been able to do paragraph reformatting on my LX using Vim 3
> and the Q} command (you have to set the default text width first... ala
> ":set tw=65" to set the wrap at column 65).
Ah, the things you learn on this list!

I see that tw also does automatic line-wrap as you go aloing. I never knew
that; thanks!


> For this reason, I haven't taken the time to learn to use Fmt.
I don't use any of its options. One thing I've noticed, however, is that
the various formatters tend to handle indentation differently. But
at least they handle it (eg bullet lists).

> And you're right, we're quite deranged.
:-)

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:26:03 -0500
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It depends on how much you like battery life. The Simple Tech card is
cheaper but it definitely draws more power. I own a 48MB Simple Tech
card and an 85 MB Sandisk card. The Sandisk card is way better on
battery life. I can only give annecdotal evidence but I believe that
some list members have actually quantified the differences.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raffaele Gaioni Ýmailto:gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT¨
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 4:20 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ 40mb Simple Tech ATA Flash card
>
>
> Anyone has tried this card? I'm considering to buy it...
> Any opinion?
>
>                         Tnx a lot
>                         Raffaele

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:27:26 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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Mine works well - have used it both on a 100LX (with acecard.com) and a
200LX without problem.


At 22:19 11/16/98 +0100, you wrote:
>Anyone has tried this card? I'm considering to buy it...
>Any opinion?
>
>                        Tnx a lot
>                        Raffaele
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Um.... What?

>Longden,

>> Brendan, I've been able to do paragraph reformatting on my LX using Vim 3
>> and the Q} command (you have to set the default text width first... ala
>> ":set tw=65" to set the wrap at column 65).
>Ah, the things you learn on this list!

Guess I don't understand the acronyms here (and I've missed a few posts),
what software are you guys talking about?

Along the same lines, one of the ONLY things I liked about the CE devices
I've touched is that they let you type in "MS Word" and you can have *BIG*
letters, while wrapping to fit the screen; when you're done, you can zoom
out and you've got a regular document Ý80-ish columns wide with no hard CRs
every 40 chars.¨.

Any easy way to do this on the LX Ýview/type in 40 column mode, while
creating an 80-col. document, *without* scrolling back and forth....¨?

TIA

--tim

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Claud G. Cameron wrote:
>
> Mine works well - have used it both on a 100LX (with acecard.com) and a
> 200LX without problem.
>
> At 22:19 11/16/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >Anyone has tried this card? I'm considering to buy it...
> >Any opinion?
> >
> >                        Tnx a lot
> >                        Raffaele
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I have one I bought for $159 and it seems to work fine in my 200Lx,
Libretto and Compaq LTE/Elite

Raffaele Gaioni wrote:
>
> Anyone has tried this card? I'm considering to buy it...
> Any opinion?
>
>                         Tnx a lot
>                         Raffaele
>

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:02:03 -0800
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What is a safe but cheap source for these cards?



Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
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I went off on a tangent about the "vi" text editor, an almost universal
fixture on Unix systems, but whose intuitive ease of use ranks close to
reciting the Declaration of Independence....backwards.

Vim is an enhanced version of vi that's popular with vi users on PCs, and
version 3 works with the LX.  All the other mumbo-jumbo on the note are
vi-specific.

Definitely NOT for the WYSIWYG crowd!

- Longden





"Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO"  on 11/16/98
01:36:38 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
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To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Editors and word wrap




Um.... What?

>Longden,

>> Brendan, I've been able to do paragraph reformatting on my LX using Vim
3
>> and the Q} command (you have to set the default text width first... ala
>> ":set tw=65" to set the wrap at column 65).
>Ah, the things you learn on this list!

Guess I don't understand the acronyms here (and I've missed a few posts),
what software are you guys talking about?

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--- begin of forwarded message ---

01h16m40s ago ...
On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Arthur Hu wrote:
>
> Subscriber Comments: I'm back. I used my Hp200lx to take notes in a =
heavy
> rainstorm- big mistake, I'm missing the bottom 8% of
> my screen pixels now. Any suggestions for repair/
> replacement?????
>
> Pass on to the list!

--- end of forwarded message ---

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:18:39 -0600
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Re: Editors and word wrap
Comments: To: "Longden_Loo@candle.com" 

re:
>Definitely NOT for the WYSIWYG crowd!

's OK, I'm keyboard retentive.... ;-)

Thought I sent my other message to the whole group ... but, GOTCHA, I had a
moment of "acronym-itis".  I actually like Linux, but haven't messed with it
for some time....

--tim

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:21:11 -0600
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              Jeff 
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From:         Jeff 
Subject:      Re: MODEMS for SALE!
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, John Guenther wrote:

> I have several brand new Megahertz XJ2144 PCMCIA Gold Series Data/Fax Modems
> with XJACK for sale.  These are in factory sealed static bags, including
> manual and phone cable.  I have tested one of these in the HP200lx and it
> worked fine.  The asking price is $26.50 including USPS Priority 2 Day
> shipping anywhere in the United States.  Please respond by private email to
> jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.

The price seems kinda high.... they are sellin in the newsgroups for
about $10 or $15 although I wish you luck in your ventures!

73 Jeff

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http://www.marcan-dist.com/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick West Ýmailto:pccare@TELEPORT.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 5:02 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ 40mb Simple Tech ATA Flash card
>
>
> What is a safe but cheap source for these cards?
>
>
>
> Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW
> 4.0, & the
> HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
> PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4
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              Rod Whitby 
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: HPLX ethernet TCP/IP'ing
Comments: cc: Alexander Stanovoy 
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Alexander Stanovoy  writes:
> I have Accton(OEM) Ethernet card And Would like to telnet ftp and more
> TCP/IP'ing with my 200LX. Do anybody know what I need to do this and if it
> is possible with link where to get(better for free).
> And maybe somebody know is it exist ssh(Secure Shell client) for DOS.

See the networking FAQ on www.hplx.net for details on how to get your
Accton card working.  Then look on my LXTCP Home Page for DOSPPP,
LXTCP (which includes lxftp, lxpop, lxnntp, ping, etc.) and other
utilities that work with LXTCP (such as mskermit, which now includes
an excellent, but big, telnet client & terminal emulator).

As far as SSH goes, I don't know of any implementations for DOS.  Note
that you could use WatTCP (also on the LXTCP Home Page) and write one
yourself if you are so inclined :-)

All of the tools I mentioned above are available for free, and all
come with source code (just like any "good citizen" freeware palmtop
software should).

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:42:38 -0500
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Hi All:

     After successful compleation of a palmtop.com online run, CCMail
crashed, and I could not bring it back up. I traces the problem to a
corrupt inbox.fld file. I renamed the file and CCMail would start OK,
but all my folders are gone. The messages are still there, but don't
show up in my inbox either. Is it possible to rebuild my inbox.fld some
how?

TIA & Cheers,

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              Rod Whitby 
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: System Manager compliant application in C++
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Paulo Custodio  writes:
> Has anyone managed to build a System Manager compliant application in
> C++?
>
> I've tried both with NKIT (from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html) and
> with LXREF (from http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/),
> but somehow the startup code supplied with those kits does not work with
> Turbo C++ 3.0 or with Ms C++ 1.52. The application just crashes on
> startup, and a cold reset is needed.

Exmbatch and LXTCP (both available from my home page) are compiled
*on*the*palmtop* with Borland C++ 2.0 - they don't use much actual C++
code (apart from a good C++ preprocessor trick in LXPOP and LXNNTP).

They both have Makefiles included in the source code package, so you
can see what I'm linking with.

Let us know how you go.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:47:04 -0600
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              Steve Dowell 
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From:         Steve Dowell 
Subject:      complete set of Agenda 2.0 manuals

FYI...
I am on the mailing list called PIMLIST which is primarily a mailing
list for Agenda users
(there is occasionally some LX posts as well). Just this weekend someone
on that list indicated that he is going to start "digitizing" the Agenda
manuals via scanner. He asked others on the list to help him with this
project, and he said he was going to let the list know when he has the
first one completed. If anyone is interested in subscribing to PIMLIST,
you can do so by going to ONELIST.COM and searching for "PIMLIST".

Steve

pc> Folks,
pc>
pc> I just saw a complete set of Agenda 2.0 manuals for $40.00 at a
local
pc> Cyber Exchange
pc> the email address is
pc> shop@cyber49.com
pc>

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:00:27 -0600
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I remember this being discussed on the list awhile back and can't find
it in the archives.  Does anyone have/use a shareware program that will
convert a .GIF file into an ICON (both the LX kind *and* the Windows
.ICO kind!).  Thanks in advance...

-Chris Lott

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Hi!

Anybody does know where find the HP200LX LCD screen "surface cover"?
Because my friend got a HP200LX with this cover slightly peeled off.
Its a plastic transparent cover.
Without this the LCD screen doesn't show nothing.

TIA

Pablo KIM

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:37:37 +0100
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              Winfried Zettelmeyer 
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At 16/11/98 16:26 , you wrote:
>It depends on how much you like battery life. The Simple Tech card is
>cheaper but it definitely draws more power..... I believe that
>some list members have actually quantified the differences.

I measured power draw  for some cards with the following results
(approximate values):

HP200LX without Card:
                OFF: 13 mA, ON-idle: 24 mA, typing Memo 40 mA
HP 5MB Flash Card  F1012 A:
                7 secs surge at ON of 57 mA, ON-idle 24 mA, typing MEMO 40 mA,
32 MB SIMPLE TECH Compact Flash:
                No surge at ON, ON-idle: 58 mA, typing Memo 58 mA
                40 MB Magic RAM: 2 secs surge of 117 mA at ON, ON-idle 66 mA, typing 63 mA
EXP 1414 LXM FAX Modem 8 MB Flash Card:
                11 secs surge of 110 mA, ON-idle 31 mA, typing Memo 55 mA, Modem active:
80 mA
GSM Siemens wireless modem card:
                20 secs surge of 95 mA, ON-idle 39 mA, typing Memo 55 mA, Modem active:
80 mA
Accurite Floppy Card:
                5 secs surge of 95 mA, ON-idle 60 mA, writing 92mA

According to these results, the HP card behaves best with 24 mA ON-idle and
NO SURGE, but it is too small.
With the EXP FAX 8 MB Flash Card inserted, switching the 200 LX ON and OFF
- to save batteries, of course - kills them that much faster, as the card
every time  draws 1210 mA. (It is, therefore, impractical to use the EXP
Card as a Flash Card keeping it in the machine, as publicity wants to make
us believe. I experienced several crashes due to lack of power while trying
to write to the card.)
The Simple Tech Card draws 58  mA  ON-idle but has (almost) NO SURGE, it
draws less then the 40 MB Magic RAM Card with 66 mA, so I stuck with this
one, but I take it out as much as possible.
Has anybody measured power draw of the big cards (over 40 MB) ?
Winfried

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:40:18 -0800
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Subject:      Re: ??? HP200LX LCD SCREEN surface cover
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:

> Anybody does know where find the HP200LX LCD screen "surface cover"?
> Because my friend got a HP200LX with this cover slightly peeled off.
> Its a plastic transparent cover. Without this the LCD screen doesn't
> show nothing.

This is the front polarizer.  Any standard polarizing sheet should work,
as long as you orient it right.  However, you may have trouble getting it
to look right-- it's very difficult to bond a new one to the screen
without the right equipment, and to do it without distorting the polarizer
(usually plastic).

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:41:39 -0300
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Hi!

where is the best place to get it?
Thank you for your quick response/
It took less than 15 minutes!!!

Pablo KIM
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Para: Pablo KIM 
CC: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Fecha: Lunes 16 de Noviembre de 1998 08:47 PM
Asunto: Re: ??? HP200LX LCD SCREEN surface cover


On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Pablo KIM wrote:

> Anybody does know where find the HP200LX LCD screen "surface cover"?
> Because my friend got a HP200LX with this cover slightly peeled off.
> Its a plastic transparent cover. Without this the LCD screen doesn't
> show nothing.

This is the front polarizer.  Any standard polarizing sheet should work,
as long as you orient it right.  However, you may have trouble getting it
to look right-- it's very difficult to bond a new one to the screen
without the right equipment, and to do it without distorting the polarizer
(usually plastic).

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:19:01 -0800
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998 hanacom@feedback.net.ar wrote:

> where is the best place to get it? Thank you for your quick response/
> It took less than 15 minutes!!!

Just call me Mr. Speedy.  

Actually, I'm not sure what the best place to get a polarizer is.
Polaroid and the large companies like that usually sell them in bulk only.
You might try Educational Innovations (I can't recall the URL right now)
or Edmund Scientific (www.edsci.com) as they often sell sheets of
polarizing plastic.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:23:57 -0600
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On 11-16 06:19pm, the following was written:

> Just call me Mr. Speedy.  
>
> Actually, I'm not sure what the best place to get a polarizer is.
> Polaroid and the large companies like that usually sell them in bulk only.
> You might try Educational Innovations (I can't recall the URL right now)
> or Edmund Scientific (www.edsci.com) as they often sell sheets of
> polarizing plastic.

I wonder if he could just wear a pair of Polarized sunglasses ?
Actually, the idea about Edmund is the best bet.

73 Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:35:29 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> I wonder if he could just wear a pair of Polarized sunglasses ?
> Actually, the idea about Edmund is the best bet.

Actually, this was seriously discussed a while back: the possibility of
removing the front polarizer on the screen and creating a "secure
display."  Then you could see the display only if you were wearing a pair
of polarized sunglasses (and polarized the right way, too ).  That way,
you could type out salacious notes on the plane with somebody next to you,
and they'd never know the difference.  

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:33:03 -0500
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What should I do to make switching back-and-forth between HDM apps and
SysMgr apps work better?

I downloaded HDM from the SUPER site and added a bunch of DOS apps to it.
Its real nice for loading programs, but I often get "Out of Memory" errors
when I try to switch back to SysMgr.  I know this is a dumb question, but
I'm confused by all the different memory manager programs available.

BTW, mine is a 200LX (1Mb) upgraded to 5Mb by NSW (maybe 2 years ago).  They
sent a copy of Software Carousel with the upgrade, but its probably an old
version by now, and I've never loaded it.

TIA.
**********************************************************************
 Scott Walker
 New Cumberland, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania USA
 N3SW@worldnet.att.net
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:45:27 -0800
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              Eric Wong 
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This is a MIME encoded message.  Decode it with "munpack"
or any other MIME reading software.  Mpack/munpack is available
via anonymous FTP in ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/
---

> Hi All:
>
>      After successful compleation of a palmtop.com online run, CCMail
> crashed, and I could not bring it back up. I traces the problem to a
> corrupt inbox.fld file. I renamed the file and CCMail would start OK,
> but all my folders are gone. The messages are still there, but don't
> show up in my inbox either. Is it possible to rebuild my inbox.fld some
> how?

Hi Al,

I don't know how many folders you had before, but I've attached
an "inbox.fld" file with 26 folders.  If you put that file in
your ccmail directory, you should be able to get your saved mail.
(Assuming you created less than 26 folders.)  Then it's just a
matter of patience to move your saved mail into different folders.

In theory it shouldn't be too hard to rebuild your inbox.fld;
the structure of the file is easy enough to understand: a 2-byte
header (# of folders) followed by #-variable length data fields
(themselves just a 2-byte folder id + 2-byte string length + variable
length null-terminated string), so if you're the adventurous
sort, you might try going into "inbox.fld" with a hex editor and
find out how it's corrupted and fix it.

I don't think that the problem with your new mail not showing up
in your inbox will be solved by fixing your inbox.fld, though.
It sounds to me like ccmail crashed after it downloaded the mail
onto your hplx, but before it put the info for those letters into
inbox.ccm  Is it possible for you to download that mail again?
If not, the problem's not insurmountable, just more difficult.

Good luck,
Eric

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:52:44 -0800
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If you didn't set any limit within the HP sys manager when it loads HDM,
it will give HDM all available memory.  If you want to keep using both
without shutting down HDM, limit it's memory usage with adding a pipe
symbol "|" or shift \ and then a number representing the amount of
memory you want to give it.  "c:\programlocation\hdm.exe|256" for 256k.

Dan Carrington




Scott Walker wrote:
>
> What should I do to make switching back-and-forth between HDM apps and
> SysMgr apps work better?
>
> I downloaded HDM from the SUPER site and added a bunch of DOS apps to it.
> Its real nice for loading programs, but I often get "Out of Memory" errors
> when I try to switch back to SysMgr.  I know this is a dumb question, but
> I'm confused by all the different memory manager programs available.
>
> BTW, mine is a 200LX (1Mb) upgraded to 5Mb by NSW (maybe 2 years ago).  They
> sent a copy of Software Carousel with the upgrade, but its probably an old
> version by now, and I've never loaded it.
>
> TIA.
> **********************************************************************
>  Scott Walker
>  New Cumberland, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania USA
>  N3SW@worldnet.att.net
> **********************************************************************
>
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:21 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence 
Subject:      Re: Databases

What about DataPerfect? www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html


This has been released as freeware, has a great site full of apps
and is small, fast, free, and works well on the LX!

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:32 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence 
Subject:      123 Help file...

I am working on a gdb of 123 functions, macros, and features,
along with some other equally, and in some cases, more tallented
individuals.

I remember a post about modifying an LX help file (Memo?) and
putting it in C:\_sys and I wondered if it was/is possible to use
the 123 help file from a full desktop version 2.4 (780k) with
some modification?

The full version has much more functionality over the
stripped-down built in help file.
David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:27 +1300
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From:         David Lawrence 
Subject:      Dos Dictionary...

Hi all lx'rs

I have an ancient copy of the Oxford Concise Dictionary for Dos,
version 1, that runs fine on the LX, but the number 5 disk has
just gone west.

It is on 6 720k floppies, and my latest attempt to backup the
disks has shown up no. 5 as duff!

I contacted Oxford Press, they said it was so old, they no longer
supported it, and I should buy the new version at NZ $385.99!!!

Does anybody have version 1 ofthis program and can they let me
have a disk image?


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 03:17:48 +0000
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Subject:      Re: ??? HP200LX LCD SCREEN surface cover
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> This is the front polarizer.  Any standard polarizing sheet should work,
> as long as you orient it right.  However, you may have trouble getting it
> to look right-- it's very difficult to bond a new one to the screen
> without the right equipment, and to do it without distorting the polarizer
> (usually plastic).

Interesting.  That means if appropriately handled, one could "fix" the
problem with using the 200 with polarized sunglasses!  But then one
could not use VR - tradeoffs!

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 03:40:39 -0500
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> Date:    Sun, 15 Nov 1998 02:01:53 -0500
> From:    Longden Loo 
> Subject: Re: Off-list question: e-mail message formats
>
> I thought line wrap wasn't a feature in standard vi. I know enhanced Vim
> has it...but don't you need an added program like Fmt to do simple
> wrap and paragraph formatting in non-Vim versions?
>
> - Longden

:set wm=5

for example.

Clark

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> Date:    Sun, 15 Nov 1998 06:54:35 -0600
> From:    "R. Christopher Lott" 
> Subject: Re: Off-list question: e-mail message formats
>
> I *think* you're right, Logden.  But the fmt program comes with the
> Elvis distribution of vi that I normally use.  Sometimes I use calvin,
> too, but don't recall whether or not it works with it or not.  That
> would be the = command.  For example, =} would reformat a paragraph.

With standard fmt & vi, you would do:
        !}fmt

CLark

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:31:43 -0500
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>From:    Al Kind 
>After successful compleation of a palmtop.com online run, CCMail
>crashed, and I could not bring it back up. I traces the problem to a
>corrupt inbox.fld file. I renamed the file and CCMail would start OK,
>but all my folders are gone. The messages are still there, but don't
>show up in my inbox either. Is it possible to rebuild my inbox.fld som=
e
>how?

Al,
I used Palmtop.Com for awhile because it was free.  I even paid the sha=
reware
fee.
However I have stopped using it altogether because it kept hanging on m=
e and
forcing a CTRL-LShift-On reset.  I never had the problem you're describ=
ing so I
can't help you rebuild that data format.  I did notice that the files a=
re
pretty editable.
I think you should be able to recover the content of your mail with an =
editor.

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:26:30 -0500
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              Russel Brooks 
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Subject:      Extra Pure FLUFF: Keven & Kell
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I just discovered a great computer oriented cartoon that is published
only on the web.  Good stuff.  Find the archive and read it starting
with the 1995 issues.

http://www.reuben.org/holbrook/kevkel.html
http://www.herdthinners.com/

Enjoy...
Russ Brooks
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:21:15 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
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I agree that open source code is a way to let new programmers have a
faster learning curve, and this can only help our palmtop to survive.

I've therefore posted to SUPER the source code of the LX2WIN/WIN2LX
utilities.

Extract from the mail from Mitchell Hamm :

   The following item(s) have been added to the S.U.P.E.R. Site
    They are available at http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Ý...¨
 LX2WIN/WIN2LX (12k) added 11/16/98
Version 1.2 by Paulo Custodio

LX2WIN/WIN2LX are filters that convert the international
characters supported by the HP 200LX from the MS-DOS code
page to the ISO Latin-1 character set used in windows,
and vice versa. New version includes C source code and a
perl library to allow filtering to be made by perl
scripts. Copyrighted freeware.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:08:30 -0500
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From:    Laust Brock-Nannestad 
>How much slower than the regular C drive is it?

Actually I can't tell the difference when I'm using my SecureDevice dri=
ve.
I don't do a lot of heavy processing to that drive so there may a
noticable problem that is not apparent to me.

Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:42:56 -0500
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Some of you might be interested in the following (for the rest, please
ignore).

http://www.fortunecity.com/skyscraper/cray/542/index800.html

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David Sargeant wrote:
 > Actually, this was seriously discussed a while back: the possibility of
 > removing the front polarizer on the screen and creating a "secure
 > display."  Then you could see the display only if you were wearing a pair
 > of polarized sunglasses (and polarized the right way, too ).  That way,
 > you could type out salacious notes on the plane with somebody next to you,
 > and they'd never know the difference.  

Unless sunlight through the windows hit the LX such that the internal
reflection is at brewsters angle.  Then you'd be tossed out on your @$#.

It wouldn't be the first time my parachute came in handy...
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:53:01 -0500
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>> Interesting.  That means if appropriately handled, one could "fix" the
>> problem with using the 200 with polarized sunglasses!  But then one
>> could not use VR - tradeoffs!

You could still use VR -- you would just need 2 pairs of polarized glasses.
One would need to be 90 degrees out of phase from the other, for side-ways
viewing.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:14:43 -0600
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> > would be the = command.  For example, =} would reformat a paragraph.
>
> With standard fmt & vi, you would do:
>         !}fmt

Clark:

You're right, of course.  I've been using this = command for so long, I
never bothered to look it up.  I'm not even sure I know where I first
learned about it!  It turns out to be an extension (most likley vim)
that works on my palmtop (elvis) and my UNIX shell accounts, and has
always been available.

-Chris


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Dave Sargeant wrote:

> According to the developer's guide, the palmtop will automatically
> recognize a second partition on a flash card as drive B:.  But I have =
thus
> far been unable to find software capable of partitioning a flash card
> (well, more than one partition, I mean).

That is interesting about the palmtop recognizing a second partition
as the B: drive.  I didn't know that.

I think the problem with putting more than one partition on a flash
card is because it is considered to be removable media.  And I think
only one partition is allowed on removable media.


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:36:42 +1000
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1Mb 200LX in mint condition with connectivity kit and an ACE 5/10Mb
(Stacker) ATA Flash Card for sale. All items are unmarked, original
packaging/documentation and manuals.

HPLX200:=HPF1060A
Connectivity_Pack:=HPF1021A
ACEDoubleFlash10Mb:=10MA3210

$500 AUD + shipping

Please email if interested vaughncox@ozemail.com.au. I may be interested in
trading for a PSION 5...

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:57:08 +1100
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Someone mentioned that the hp200lx had been (inadvertently) renamed the
"Jornada" on the HP site. I'm not sure if this was fully followed up on
the list; however, I read in the newspaper today:


"Jornada" is the name of a new HP WinCE "email companion":
        full(ish) size keyboard
        large screen
        1.1 Kg (use your hp for conversion, I'm too lazy - almost 3 lbs)
        10 hour battery life
        56k modem built-in
        standard WinCE pocket applications: toy Word, toy excel,
         ... you get the idea ...

This seems a good concept; though they have hopes of capturing 40% of the
market with it at $2000 (can that possibly be right?). At that price,
they have hopes indeed!

This kind of low-power application is about the only thing WinCE is
good for, IMHO.   ;-) Maybe a toaster would be an even better
example of Consumer Electronics...  ;-)


Cheers,
Brendan
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Hi list people,

        What is a way (*any* way) to convert a quicktime movie into
something that can be played on the humble LX? I guess that means to
EVA or animated GIF format (I prefer the latter, because I could also
use it within a homepage).

    You see, one of my office mates applied his research project to two
of the most beautiful photographs I have ever taken. The resulting
quicktime movie is available at the URL below; however, I warn you that
this is *not* a family quicktime movie.

        Yes.

http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/torso.qt

Enjoy!



Cheers,
Brendan
PS
        Well, actually the photographs are of an ancient statue in La Lourve
(Paris).  It is aesthetically justifiably non-familial.

        But you've just gotta have a look now, right?  ;-)

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:33:32 -0600
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I have a Compaq Aero (not for sale) which came
with a directory (CPQDOS ??) and Win3.1 help files
on configuring the PCMCIA software for different
devices. The manual was trivial and didn't discuss the slot
at all, but I had no trouble following the Win Help file.
So make sure that the necesary stuff hasn't been lost.
Also you are likely to get a near dead battery so budget
for a new one if its important.

IBM has a refurb site:
http://refurbishedpcs.financing.ibm.com/icc/menu1.htm
They were selling Pentium 75's for around $700 when I
looked last.

Donald Collins wrote:

> I'm considering purchasing a cheap laptop as an extension to my Palmtop.  Mostly to use the keyboard and PCMCIA slot to backup and update data.
>
> After buying the December issue of COMPUTER SHOPPER I found 48 laptops for under $500USD.  I even made a GDB file if anyone is interested.
>
> My question is... I'm looking into a IBM TP700 (486SL/25) for $195 and would like to know if anyone has experience with same.  I remember some old laptop keyboards were hard to type on (keys were stubborn).  I also need to find our if my 20MB Viking Flash card will be recognized.  How hard is it to setup the drivers in DOS?
>
> Any advice?
>
> Don.
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              Brendan Macmillan 
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> With standard fmt & vi, you would do:
>         !}fmt
Calvin has no }, unfortunately (move forward a paragraph, for the sane),
you have to mark (ma), or (ouch) count, or, if you are writing a fresh
doc (ie, a paragraph at a time), then the last paragraph is at the end
of the file. position cursor at the start of the paragraph, and do !G.

Alternatively, you can format the ENTIRE FILE in one go; but beware:
fmt doesn't always think about headings the way that you and I do.

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:29:14 EST
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> Highlight the file and  brings up the properties; or
> right-click on the file and select "Properties" from there. Works
> on floppies and my LX's SUNDisk 10 MB (of course, the values for
> fi

Finally what I was looking for and I see that it does keep seperate
times for the file on FAT16. Rather stupid of MS not to include that
information in the details listing though. Thanks for straightening
that out.

Pete


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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:46:45 +0100
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I wonder if all hp200lx are the same?
Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:

o " "
A A O

When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?

If I buy a hp200lx from USA, will i still have these characters on it?


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:53:37 -0500
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Yes, dataperfect was discussed on the list .... probably over a year
ago. It was touted as easy to use but not to program. It doesn't have a
real programming language but it does contain a macro capability.
Probably a good choice for someone with simple needs and no desire to
have to learn a complex database.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lawrence Ýmailto:katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ¨
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 9:40 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Databases
>
>
> What about DataPerfect? www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html
>
>
> This has been released as freeware, has a great site full of apps
> and is small, fast, free, and works well on the LX!
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:57:16 -0800
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Try the Software Carousel, you'll love it.  Its the best thing going on my Palmtop.

Don.

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Subject:        Memory Limit with HDM?

They sent a copy of Software Carousel with the upgrade, but its probably an old
version by now, and I've never loaded it.

TIA.

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:12:49 -0500
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Both the 100LX and the 200LX are designed to run 5v or 12v PCMCIA Type-I or
Type-II ATA-type flash cards and CF (compact flash) cards. (With the
addition of a driver called TFFS.SYS or one called MS-FLASH.SYS, the 100LX
and the 200LX will also run Linear-type flash cards, made by Intel etc.,
and sold under names like Maxtor, Apple Newton etc., but Linear cards are
now rather scarce compared to their ATA counterparts.)

The 100LX has built-in drivers to run ATA-type flash cards and CF cards
made by Sandisk, which are sold under the names HP, IBM, Epson, SunDisk or
Sandisk. With the addition of a driver called ACECARD.COM, the 100LX will
also run cards made by Simple Technology, Viking and virtually anyone else.

The 200LX has built-in drivers to run all current ATA-type flash cards and
CF cards (Simple Technology, Viking, HP, IBM, Epson, SunDisk, Sandisk
etc.).

I hope this helps. (N.B. PCMCIA gurus: let me know if I made any mistakes
here.)

B.

> Just one thing does anyone know what the device driver: acecard.com does?
Ýsnip¨

> Can anyone tell me what the spec is for PCMCIA memory cards for a 200lx.
I have heard that not all flash cards work with it.
Ýsnip¨

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:06:09 -0500
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I track my hours at work in 1-2-3, and I like to keep fun statistics like how
many hours ovetime I've worked this year, Saturday hours, Sunday hours (none
yet :), stuff like that.  It's set up like this:

Week       Mon  Tue  Wed  Thu  Fri  Sat  Sun
Nov 16-22   9    9    9    9    8    6    0

This week's schedules hours, for instance.  I want to count how many Saturdays
I've worked, maybe how many times I've been off on a certain day, stuff like
that.

Will @DCOUNT do that?  The speadsheet is set up in database form, so no
problem there.  I've got a query set up at the bottom to extract weeks I
worked less than 8 hours a day to track my absenteeism.

I don't really understand the help given for @DCOUNT(input,field,criteria).
Input would be the Saturday column, criteria >0, but field?  Perhaps I have it
all wrong.

Or if there is a better approach, that would be dandy too.  :)  Shame @COUNT()
can't ignore 0's.

Thanks!

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:41:12 -0500
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The best way I have found is to print to the "Generic/Text-only printer"
supplied with Microsoft Windows.  It works well from in Microsoft's Internet
Explorer 4.

Alan

        PCMCIA

         PCMCIA PCMCIA 68 PIN                          PCMCIA PCMCIA 68 PIN
          ATA-   ATA     ATA   32-BIT- Pin Pin 32-BIT-  ATA-   ATA    ATA
         MEMORY  I/O   MAPPED  CARDBUS         CARDBUS MEMORY  I/O   MAPPED
         MAPPED MAPPED                                 MAPPED MAPPED
         GND    GND    GND    GND      1   35 GND      GND   GND    GND
         D3     D3     DD3    CAD0     2   36 CCD1#    -CD1  -CD1   -CD1
         D4     D4     DD4    CAD1     3   37 CAD2     D11   D11    DD11
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         -CE1   -CE1   -CS1FX CCBE0#   7   41 CAD8     D15   D15    DD15
         A10    A10    -      CAD9     8   42 CAD10    -CE2  -CE2   CS3FX-
         -OE    -OE    -SELATACAD11    9   43 CVS1     -     -      -
         -      -      -      CAD12    10  44 CAD13    -     -IORD  -DIOR
         A9     A9     -      CAD14    11  45 CAD15    -     -IOWR  -DIOW
         A8     A8     -      CCBE1#   12  46 CAD16    -     -      -
         -      -      -      CPAR     13  47 RSRVD    -     -      -
         -      -      -      CPERR#   14  48 CBLOCK#  -     -      -
         -WE    -WE    -      CGNT#    15  49 CSTOP#   -     -      -
         RDY/-  -IREQ  INTRQ  CINT#    16  50 CDEVSEL# VCC   VCC    VCC
         BSY
         VCC    VCC    VCC    Vcc      17  51 Vcc      -     -      -
         -      -      -      Vpp1     18  52 Vpp2     -     -      -
         -      -      -      CCLK     19  53 CTRDY#   -     -      -
         -      -      -      CIRDY#   20  54 CFRAME#  -     -      -
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                IOIS16
         GND    GND    GND    GND      34  68 GND      GND   GND    GND

                                              ZULETZT GEANDERT AM 20.06.1998

       http://www.aix.de/willow/PCMCIA.HTM
11/17/98

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Franklin Eekhout ÝSMTP:franklin@ONLINE.NO¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 11:58 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      PCMCIA port pinouts
>
> I found the pcmcia ata and i/o port pinouts here:
>
> http://www.aix.de/willow/PCMCIA.HTM
>
> I havn't been very successful in creating a text only file, thus the url
> only
>
> br
>
> Franklin

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Hello-

Just thought I'd try a test, since there's been no list mail all day.

-PR

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Just a test message

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A while ago, a thread was started on this list about what software would be
useful for the palmtop.  I've got 2-3 months break coming up, and am
planning to spend some of this time working on new applications.  I intend
to finish off my Visual Basic-like development environment, and possibly try
a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful sudgestions
for applications to produce??

Also, what happened to the Linux on the palmtop (LXix) project?

Tim Pitman

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What has happened to the LXix project?

>Deployment speed is an issue.  Well, we've got everything on our side: a
>working Linux-86 kernel, talented programmers, and the throttle wide open.
>You watch.  This will happen.
>
>Ian Butler 
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
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> a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful sudgestions
> for applications to produce??

Throw your efforts at getting a synchronization package for Outlook's schedule
and contact list. That's the biggest hole in the 200LX universe right now and
it has to be filled.

Mitch
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Comments: To: Tomas Moberg 

Hi Tomas,

>Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:
>o " "
>A A O

>When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?

I get these letters too (on an American LX), when I press those keys, but
they are *not* printed on the template.  I saw a French 100LX and it had
lots of the characters in blue on the template.

BTW, *some* of those character "might" also be claimed by Germany and other
countries ;-)

Happy Hunting!

--tim


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This would be of interest to those who do navigation or orienteering.
I found an interesting place online, full of maps & charts. One of
those rare times when taxpayers money is spent on something actually
useful.

http://mapfinder.nos.noaa.gov

It has real marine (and other) charts, full size, scanned in
full detail. A marine chart spans about 4x5 feet and will be at least
1 meg, a bit difficult to view in Lxpic. But possible, if one has a
lot of patience. Lxpic allows to reduce them so that the whole thing
will actually fit in 200LX's screen. Some loss of detail may occur.

The whole thing is free and available to anyone.

There must be a catch, right? Well, there seems to be no catch, except
for the fact that WWW/lx will not handle this site. You will need a
big computer, with VGA and lots of computing power. This is one of
those sites where the cursor does not turn into a little hand. You
just click anywhere and it slowly responds. Just don't click too fast
because it'll be updating forever and you'll think your computer has
crashed. Very cumbersome. But, if you need it - there it is.

Mikhail

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Couldn't agree more on the Outlook issue.  It is the only issue making
me consider alternative machines.  And I don't want to because in every
other way they are inferior products for one reason or another.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 10:38 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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> a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful
sudgestions
> for applications to produce??

Throw your efforts at getting a synchronization package for Outlook's
schedule
and contact list. That's the biggest hole in the 200LX universe right
now and
it has to be filled.

Mitch
SUPER Team

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>Couldn't agree more on the Outlook issue.  It is the only issue making
>me consider alternative machines.  And I don't want to because in every
>other way they are inferior products for one reason or another.

Please look at http://users.lanminds.com/~jsb/outloox/ for the source to a
program I wrote a while back that includes the magic COM code for reading
and writing directly to outlook (no file import/export needed, and thus no
information loss -- this will be important when tackling the calendar
issue). The outloox program (as it stands) creates an address database from
your outlook data (but doesn't do the other direction, doesn't handle
merging, and doesn't convert the calendar). I'm willing to work closely with
anyone that wants to extend this code into something useful. I just haven't
had a quiet time to work on this program since September.

- Joe

P.S. The code is in C++. If you want to look at the core routine which
converts
an Outlook address book record into an HP address book record,
then look at HpRecordFromOlRecord in outdump.cpp.

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But what happens when Micro$oft drops Outlook the way they did Schedule =
Plus, or your company decides to use Gold Mine or other?

Wouldn't it be better to create a DLL with function calls that can read =
& write to the Palmtop formats?  If the DLL was put into the public =
domain (with source) then it would be easy make new add-ins, import, =
export and synchronizing apps as new PIM's hit the market.  I'm a VB =
programmer and I have made library calls to Outlook.  If I had a PAL.DLL =
to call, It would be so simple to get data between the Palmtop & =
Outlook.

Don.


-----Original Message-----
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Throw your efforts at getting a synchronization package for Outlook's =
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> From: Donald Collins 
> I'm a VB programmer and I have made library calls to Outlook.
> If I had a PAL.DLL to call, It would be so simple to get data
> between the Palmtop & Outlook.

Using Visual Basic? That's cheating! :-)

I haven't paid much attention to all the Perl work on the HPLX, but I know
there's been a lot. What pieces of the Outlook solution already exist in
Perl?

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Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:35:45 -0500 (EST)

01h44m49s ago ...
On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> Hi Tomas,
>
> >Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:
> >o " "
> >A A O
>
> >When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?
>
> I get these letters too (on an American LX), when I press those keys, =
but
> they are *not* printed on the template.  I saw a French 100LX and it =
had
> lots of the characters in blue on the template.

see owner's manual, Appendix C, pg C-3 & C-4 for generating code-page
850 characters ;-)

Cheers,

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*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
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Hi All:

     I seem to have some bad files on my LX that I can't seem to
delete. I seem to have made them when I was playing with the folders in
POST/LX. The filenames have a "space" embedded, i.e. "MCL WORK I". I
can view the files in FILER and DOS(using "DIR MCL*"), but I can't
delete them using "DEL MCL*". I suppose I could dig up a copy of NORTON
or PCTOOLS, but is there an easier way?

TIA & Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:21:38 -0600
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>delete them using "DEL MCL*". I suppose I could dig up a copy of NORTON
>or PCTOOLS, but is there an easier way?

Try:

  DEL "MCL WORK I"

If that doesn't work then try the tools you suggested.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:37:37 -0500
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I bought my primary 200LX from Thaddeus and these characters are supported
The first one was from HP and although the keyboard template doesn't show
these characters, they still work.

Based on this, I believe that most or all the 200LX machines will have this
capability




Thanks,

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Tomas Moberg
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 10:47 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Are all hp200lx the same?


I wonder if all hp200lx are the same?
Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:

o " "
A A O

When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?

If I buy a hp200lx from USA, will i still have these characters on it?


      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:04:51 -0500
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              David Ness 
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The simplest way of doing this involves judicious use of the ? and
* wildcard characters to specify `wild' but still `unique' filenames.
To use it you have to be pretty clear about what the filename *really*
is (i.e. nulls can screw things up by showing `HH' as `HH').

What I generally do is try things like `DIR MCL?WORK?I' and if that
lists a single file, then `DEL MCL?WORK?I' will probably get rid of it.

Make sense?

Al Kind wrote:
>
> Hi All:
>
>      I seem to have some bad files on my LX that I can't seem to
> delete. I seem to have made them when I was playing with the folders in
> POST/LX. The filenames have a "space" embedded, i.e. "MCL WORK I". I
> can view the files in FILER and DOS(using "DIR MCL*"), but I can't
> delete them using "DEL MCL*". I suppose I could dig up a copy of NORTON
> or PCTOOLS, but is there an easier way?
>
> TIA & Cheers,
>
> 
>

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> Wouldn't it be better to create a DLL with function calls that can read &
> write to the Palmtop formats?

Being a non-programmer, I would say do whatever it takes for Outlook users to be
able to hook their 200LX to their desktop/laptop, right-click an icon on the Win95
tray and choose "Synchronize". If that can happen by creating some DLLs for the
palmtop ADB and GDB format, then that's a great idea.

Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:14:04 +0800
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>A while ago, a thread was started on this list about what software
would be
>useful for the palmtop.  I've got 2-3 months break coming up, and am
>planning to spend some of this time working on new applications.  I
intend
>to finish off my Visual Basic-like development environment, and
possibly try
>a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful
sudgestions


    The spectrum emulator has been done to the death on both
    windows and DOS.

    Agree with other's Outlook connectivity would be the best asset
    to the group, alternatively an assembler mailer/reader/browser
    that runs in 120K 8-)

    Regards to all.......Liam

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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:45:21 -0500
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>> Here's one possible and one definite solution to large flash
>> cards and the large cluster sizes they require.
>> 1. Can you partition a flash card into multiple drives?

>According to the developer's guide, the palmtop will automatically
>recognize a second partition on a flash card as drive B:.  But I have =
thus
>far been unable to find software capable of partitioning a flash card
>(well, more than one partition, I mean).

OK, I bit. I popped the card out of my palmtop (Sandisk  1.8M) and into =
my=20
desktop. FDISK recognized it, so I deleted the current partition and =
created a 1M Primary
and a 750K Extended.
Desktop now had H: and I: after reboot. So good so far - so  I put it =
back in my palmtop.
Unfortunately it was not recognized.

I did not go back and mess with other configurations (no active, =
etcetera) but if
anyone wants to jump in where I left off...

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>> Here's one possible and one definite solution to large=20
flash
>> cards and the large cluster sizes they =
require.
>> 1.=20
Can you partition a flash card into multiple =
drives?

>According to the=20
developer's guide, the palmtop will automatically
>recognize a =
second=20
partition on a flash card as drive B:.  But I have thus
>far =
been=20
unable to find software capable of partitioning a flash =
card
>(well, more=20
than one partition, I mean).


 


OK, I bit. I popped the card out of my palmtop (Sandisk  1.8M) =
and=20
into my 


desktop. FDISK recognized it, so I deleted the current partition =
and=20
created a 1M Primary


and a 750K Extended.


Desktop now had H: and I: after reboot. So good so far - so  I =
put it=20
back in my palmtop.


Unfortunately it was not recognized.


 


I did not go back and mess with other configurations (no active, =
etcetera)=20
but if


anyone wants to jump in where I left off...


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> The filenames have a "space" embedded, i.e. "MCL WORK I". I can view the
> files in FILER and DOS(using "DIR MCL*"), but I can't
> delete them using "DEL MCL*".
Al, just some guesses:

Maybe the space is a red-herring and there is some other aspect of them
that is causing the problem? eg Are the files read only? Or perhaps there
is an extension? It's not a directory, is it?

--
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:47:26 -0600
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Hi guys/gals..... I wish to apologize for the bandwidth and I'm sure I'll
get some lively messages in return, but as part of this list (LX Family) I
want/need to vent....

Could those people on the list with email clients that send mail in HTML
format or whatever MS email software that adds some little file at the end
of each message please set them to where they only send ascii to the list.
If you don't know what your client does, maybe you should take a look at
some email you sent with a mailer such as PINE or some other similar mailer.
Everybody has been arguing over Al's writing style, but at least his mail
doesn't add unwanted attachents and loads of HTML. All I use for email are
UNIX based mailers and Goin' Postal on my LX and when downloading mail to
the LX, all the extra 'stuff' just robs me of precious RAM (yes, I'm saving
my money for a 32MB upgrade).

Whew..... I feel better now . Happy palmtopping!

73 Jeff



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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:50:13 -0500
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Hi David & All:

28m09s ago ...
On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, David Ness wrote:

> The simplest way of doing this involves judicious use of the ? and
> * wildcard characters to specify `wild' but still `unique'
> filenames...
>
> Make sense?

Yes! That worked!

     I was able to list the file with "DIR MCL" but not delete. I was
able to delete with "DEL MCL?WORK.I".

     Thanks for the tip, gotta remember that one. POST/LX seems to
write my POST.CFG file into some files with strange names...may have
something to do with Software Carousel, and not properly exiting the
program when the LX locks up.

Cheers,
*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:50:16 -0500
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Hi All:

> A while ago, a thread was started on this list about what software
>  would be useful for the palmtop...

Top priority would probably go to the OUTLOOK project...

But I'm sure all us Software Carousel users would like to see a
Cut/Paste utility that works between Work Areas ;-)

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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*                        |___/
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:51:09 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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On 11-17 08:04pm, the following was written:

> > The filenames have a "space" embedded, i.e. "MCL WORK I". I can view the
> > files in FILER and DOS(using "DIR MCL*"), but I can't
> > delete them using "DEL MCL*".
> Al, just some guesses:
>
> Maybe the space is a red-herring and there is some other aspect of them
> that is causing the problem? eg Are the files read only? Or perhaps there
> is an extension? It's not a directory, is it?

Al... Stereo Shell on S.U.P.E.R. makes it extremely easy to deal with files,
including a file attribute editor and it has also helped me delete certain
'problem' files such as the ones you are describing. Good luck!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:11:21 -0800
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Stephen Petty wrote:

> OK, I bit. I popped the card out of my palmtop (Sandisk  1.8M) and into
> my
> desktop. FDISK recognized it, so I deleted the current partition and
> created a 1M Primary
> and a 750K Extended.
> Desktop now had H: and I: after reboot. So good so far - so  I put it
> back in my palmtop.
> Unfortunately it was not recognized.

FDISK worked on your card?  Wow.  It didn't work on mine.  What software
are you using to read the card in the desktop-- Windows?  Or Card Wizard or
some other DOS based card manager?

Did you format the partitions?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:32:45 +1100
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At 08:43 PM 17/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>     I seem to have some bad files on my LX that I can't seem to
>delete. I seem to have made them when I was playing with the folders in
>POST/LX. The filenames have a "space" embedded, i.e. "MCL WORK I". I
>can view the files in FILER and DOS(using "DIR MCL*"), but I can't
>delete them using "DEL MCL*". I suppose I could dig up a copy of NORTON
>or PCTOOLS, but is there an easier way?
>
>TIA & Cheers,
Hi Al

I use Veurn Bergs List Program.. It has the ability to delete whatever you
highlight.. Perhaps that may do as you want..

Regards

Russell

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For anyone interested in connecting their HP's to the outside world, have a
look at the serial i/o devices on this page:

http://www.access.digex.net/~pha/

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

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Hi,

Is the URL correct?

Yujin


>For anyone interested in connecting their HP's to the outside world, have a
>look at the serial i/o devices on this page:
>
>http://www.access.digex.net/~pha/
>
>Regards,
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:46:01 +1030
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As a programmer who is playing with PCs again after 10 years of
UNIX programming, I am very interested in any source code available.
A program I have almost finished writing in Pascal, was made a lot easier
by a few souls around (Curtis Cameron, Murray Barton to name a couple that
come to mind) who have made available various bits of code.

Do we have a central repository where these bits and pieces could be stored
?
(dare I suggest SUPER, at the risk of overloading Mitch even more, or
perhaps
Rod Whitby who started this push ?(and is only about 10kms from me as I
type)).

I realise that some of this stuff is
available on simtel etc, but the most useful routines are those HP-specific
(e.g. a routine to change the display zoom from within a program in DOS -
found one today which saved me much heartache in trying to decode the
developers guide)

I would be more than willing to donate the multi-purpose routines I have
collected and written to such a database.

Regards

David Bird

P.S. Down under, the Leonids were not that spectacular.
Saw about 10 huge trails > 1/4 sky in about 90 minutes.
Perseids I saw in 1993 from Uinta mountains in Utah
were much better (and at a more reasonable time of night).

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>> Yes, I got a copy of Vim 3 from Brendan and use it on my LX
>Unfortunately, Q} doesn't seem to work in Vim3. You can't use fmt,
>because there's insufficient memory to start an external program... (it
>seems). This is even without SysMan (ie in pure DOS).
>
I have my own version of fmt that runs in 220K of memory, and it works
fine under Calvin.

Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI? it has built-in formatting and, when
DIET'ed, doesn't take much more disk space than Calvin, though it's just
a little slower. I could probably dig it up if anyone wants to try it.

And Longdon, what kind of mainframe OS are you using? MVS has had Unix
capabilities for a while now, including VI. You should talk it up over
there.

-Geo.-

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              Etienne LEMAIRE 
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At the least, a Korean one and a French version display the same characters
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> From: Tomas Moberg 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Are all hp200lx the same?
> Date: mardi 17 novembre 1998 16:46
>
> I wonder if all hp200lx are the same?
> Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:
>
> o " "
> A A O
>
> When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?
>
> If I buy a hp200lx from USA, will i still have these characters on it?
>
>
>       /tomas moberg
>                        Uppsala
>
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Bird, David wrote:
Ý...¨
> P.S. Down under, the Leonids were not that spectacular.
> Saw about 10 huge trails > 1/4 sky in about 90 minutes.
> Perseids I saw in 1993 from Uinta mountains in Utah
> were much better (and at a more reasonable time of night).

Here in Berlin it's snowing... No chance to see any falling star...

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:18:27 +0100
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Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
Ý...¨
> I haven't paid much attention to all the Perl work on the HPLX, but I know
> there's been a lot. What pieces of the Outlook solution already exist in
> Perl?

I know it's possible to access any Windows database from Perl using
ODBC. Does Outlook have an ODBC interface?

I've successfully updated GDB databases from Perl (on the Desktop, Perl
5 cannot be run on the LX, AFAIK).

Paulo

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:59:56 +1030
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Subject:      Re: Source Code
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"Bird, David"  writes:
> Do we have a central repository where these bits and pieces could be
> stored ?  (dare I suggest SUPER, at the risk of overloading Mitch
> even more, or perhaps Rod Whitby who started this push ? ...

There is a HP200LX Source Code Home Page on my website.  Let's start
by adding major source code packages that show new techniques to that
page.  Send your ideas to me, and I'll make sure I spend some time
over Christmas updating the page.

Another thing is that we could ask Mitch to add another checkbox to
super.gdb that says whether the package on Super includes source
code.  Then the super database would allow us to search for source
code packages, and put pressure on those who resist assimilation :-)

> ... (and is only about 10kms from me as I type).

We should get together for a beer !

> P.S. Down under, the Leonids were not that spectacular.  Saw about
> 10 huge trails > 1/4 sky in about 90 minutes.  Perseids I saw in
> 1993 from Uinta mountains in Utah were much better (and at a more
> reasonable time of night).

I went up to the Barossa Valley (one of the best wine producing
regions of the world, right here in South Australia), and saw 30 - 50
pretty spectacular trails between 3:15am and 4:30am local time.

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The relevant part of the SDK says:

"CARDDRV uses drive letters A and B. Drive letter B is used for
the second partition on a plug-in card, but partitions of this
sort are never used in practice so drive B is never used in
practice. This is not a loss since drive letter B needed to be
used up somehow so that the RAM disk would be the industry
standard hard disk drive C."

If you successfully created two partitions on your flash card,
I suggest to not format them on the desktop. Slip the card into
the palmtop and run FDSIK100. It should show the 2 partitions.
Abort FDSIK100 after it's initial display and try to format the
two partitions on the palmtop with FORMAT A: and FORMAT B:

NOTE: FDISK100 is a special HP200LX program written to handle
flashcards in the palmtop. If CARDDRV and FDISK100 are able to
deal with two partitions, I don't see why it should not work.
The problem is only, that FDSIK100 does not allow to create two
partitions. But why then can it display two?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:40:49 -0000
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I have a UK and a US model.

The only difference I can see is in the template.

The US template has in words under the application (green) keys what =
they
are, e.g. 'Filer', 'Appt'.  The UK one does not.

The UK one (and it sounds all other international ones) have more =
purple
legends on the template, specifically on these keys:

Filer   (inverted !)
Phone   =A3 (pound sign)
R       (right apostrophe)
T       (left aopostrophe)
Y       ¬
U       Umlaut
I       ~
O       Zero with slash
7       A with o superscript
S       beta - German B (double s)
G       sputnik (can't remember the proper name)
K       AE diphthong
4       O umlaut
5       A umlaut
X       o superscript (degree sign)
C       C cedilla
V       Paragraph mark
3       Inverted ?

I'm sure these are all in the book.   It would have been kind of handy =
to
have printed the inverted ! and ? as these are needed when setting up =
apps
in system manager.  I can't really see that there was much reason to =
deprive
US users of all those pretty characters.  I dare say those of you who =
like
tearing LX's apart will find a source of replacement templates so you =
can
change.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:42:11 +0100
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              Frans Veldman 
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At 08:21 PM 11/13/98 +0100, Paal Rasmussen wrote:
>Just to confuse the issue: as a foreigner I quite like Al's postings for
>exactly the opposite reason: they tell me something about his spoken
>language - try experimenting with various drawls and accents whilst reading
>his postings - great fun!

Depends from what country you are from. "Our" vowels are completely
different than the English. We pronounce "E" as "A", "I" as "E", etc. If I
see a word with an unusual lay-out that I don't recognize as English, my
"automatic" translator goes nuts. It is somewhat the same if you master two
foreign languages. Now try to translate from one foreign language directly
into the other one. Almost impossible, unless you are a professional and
trained translator.

>Cheers to Al from

Skoll! :-)

Frans

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At 08:23 AM 11/14/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Morning y'all;
>I kan't please everybody, then the others will ask
>why I stopped.  Reading the msgs (flames?) I'd

Then do what I usually do if I really feel I have to write something in
Dutch to some other Dutchman in an English newsgroup: I add a translation
to it so everyone else can read it easily instead of either skipping the
message, trying to understand some of it, or use a dictionairy.

Personally, it doesn't bother me to much. I just thought you may not have
realized that for foreign people it is much more difficult to read what you
write than for native-english people. I can understand German quite well,
Scandinavian if I try really hard, and your messages if I'm putting some
effort in it. It's just that this is an international list and that it is
easiest for everyone if we try to stick to plain English. It is easier for
me to write in Dutch, but I don't do it here. I guess it is easier for you
to write in correct English than it is for me.

Just my two cents.

Frans

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:45:46 -0800
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Hi all,
       I was wondering for those who use db view for the database.  Do
you have any trouble with subsets.  Seems like my subsets are always
incorrect when I switch to db view (I have to use maxdos).  I am using a
flash card for backup and access that database (backup copy), it doesn't
seem to happen when I access the one on c: drive, makes me think db view
can't find index or something.  Anyway any thoughts or ideas would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance and thanks to all who make this list
(the only one I subscribe to at present) a great list.
                                                  Terry Livingston

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              Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      Please help with Minuet News setting.

        Hello all,

    Yesterday I made a mistake and lost the contents of my Minuet
    directory. I can't recreate a setting that is important: news.

    We have a big news server with app. the 9000 busiest groups and
    some groups (even comp.sys.palmtops) have 150 posts a day. But
    now, Minuet keeps giving me the messages oldest-first; no matter
    what I do. Sorting by sent-date or received-date does old-first.
    So I cannot see new messages as I'm low on memory and Minuet
    dislikes asking for over 200 posts in one go.

    What did I forget to set, as I had newest-first before? I saw
    nothing coming close, when inspecting config files with NC.

    Thank you very much in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:50:55 -0500
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I hate to muddy the thread further, but I have just started using vi (actually
VIM 5.3) as my message editor for the mutt mailer. I'm a huge newbie, but got
the latest O'Reilly book on vi and am picking things up quickly. I also loaded
up Calvin on the LX.

Here's my problem: I can't figure out how to reformat a paragraph after I've
added or subtracted text and screwed up the margins. I have vim set to wordwrap
by itself and would like to just hit a couple of keys and have the paragraph
reformat and fill those margins. I saw the Q} command mentioned, but that
doesn't seem to work and I'm not too clear on how to use fmt.

Any help appreciated. Reply directly to me if you think the list would not be
interested.

Thanks!

Mitch
SUPER Team

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Brendan, List,

Saw one of these last night at CompUSA. They are on special for $999. Broke my
heart, as I think the WinCE machines are finally becoming useful. I am not
planning on buying one (yet). The machine has only 16Mb of onboard RAM, but has
two PCMCIA slots with built in 56K modem, so both slots are available for
memory, etc. Screen was color VGA and excellent. Can't evaluate if the
rechargeable battery really will provide 10 hours of use or not, but the
machine ran well, and seems relatively fast. It has what they term a suite of
Pocket Office -  the Outlook, Excel, Access, and Word interfaces looked pretty
normal - It would be interesting to see what you give up in the pocket
versions. Form factor is bigger than the HPLX, smaller than a notebook - a
smallish subnotebook I would say. It's folded form factor is about the same as
an unfolded HPLX. Its folded thickness is about the same as closed HPLX. I have
to admit I liked it to the point where I have given up any ideas of upgrading
my current HPLX.

Bottom line - I feel a  tremendous disturbance of the force Luke, and I fear
the Dark Side has become much more powerful!  Is there a 12 step program to
try and overcome the urge of buying a WinCE platform?

Brian

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:02:05 -0500
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              AW 
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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Hi,
Please help.
I need DOS version of the pager message software like Motorola =
MessageConnect.
Andy


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Hi,


Please help. 


I need DOS version of the pager =
message software=20
like Motorola MessageConnect.


Andy


 


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Maybe if you created two primary partitions instead of a primary and
extended? The only way I know to create two primary DOS partitions on
one disk is to use Linux Fdisk.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Petty Ýmailto:swpetty@KIH.NET¨
Sent: Monday, November 16, 1998 8:45 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ FDISK on a PCMCIA Card


>> Here's one possible and one definite solution to large flash
>> cards and the large cluster sizes they require.
>> 1. Can you partition a flash card into multiple drives?

>According to the developer's guide, the palmtop will automatically
>recognize a second partition on a flash card as drive B:.=A0 But I =
have
thus
>far been unable to find software capable of partitioning a flash card
>(well, more than one partition, I mean).
=A0
OK, I bit. I popped the card out of my palmtop (Sandisk=A0 1.8M) and =
into
my=20
desktop. FDISK recognized it, so I deleted the current partition and
created a 1M Primary
and a 750K Extended.
Desktop now had H: and I: after reboot. So good so far - so=A0 I put it
back in my palmtop.
Unfortunately it was not recognized.
=A0
I did not go back and mess with other configurations (no active,
etcetera) but if
anyone wants to jump in where I left off...

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:12:56 -0500
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Subject:      Re: HP Jornada 820
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              1998 at 08:19:32AM -0800
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Bottom line - I feel a  tremendous disturbance of the force Luke, and I fear
> the Dark Side has become much more powerful!  Is there a 12 step program to
> try and overcome the urge of buying a WinCE platform?

The first step would be to load this special anti-WinCE topcard onto your
palmtop:

ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/wince.pcx

:)

Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:29:01 -0600
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I have seen references to both SecureDevice 1.4 and SecureDrive 1.4b as ways
to store sensitive data in an encrypted form.  Does anyone have comparative
opinions on them or their application on both the LX and Win95/WinNT
machines?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:53:46 -0800
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Well, somebody should buy one and see how well XT-CE runs on the 190MHz
StrongARM processor.  

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Yes, I think Brendan also mentioned that he uses Fmt with Calvin...the
issue was Vim which hogs more memory than Calvin.

I'd be willing to look at Oak Hill VI. Send me a copy (off-list) if it's no
trouble.

And on the subject of mainframes, I'm running MVS. Yes I know we can run OE
(Open Edition, a MF version of Unix), but the group I work with have
procedures and tools that require operating inside a specific development
environment, so MF Vi is not an option.

- Longden





George Coleman  on 11/17/98 09:33:05 PM

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Subject:  VI (was: Editors and word wrap)




>> Yes, I got a copy of Vim 3 from Brendan and use it on my LX
>Unfortunately, Q} doesn't seem to work in Vim3. You can't use fmt,
>because there's insufficient memory to start an external program... (it
>seems). This is even without SysMan (ie in pure DOS).
>
I have my own version of fmt that runs in 220K of memory, and it works
fine under Calvin.

Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI? it has built-in formatting and, when
DIET'ed, doesn't take much more disk space than Calvin, though it's just
a little slower. I could probably dig it up if anyone wants to try it.

And Longdon, what kind of mainframe OS are you using? MVS has had Unix
capabilities for a while now, including VI. You should talk it up over
there.

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I am setting up a second LX for use by my wife (a German Teacher).  The 2
applications she will commonly use are the Collins multilingual dictionary &
Lotus Agenda for classroom and grade management.

I am looking for suggestions and advice on the following:

How much EMM memory (both minimum and optimal) should be allocated to Lotus
Agenda?

What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary and
Agenda without closing either?

Will the use of SecureDrive or SecureDevice to store the classroom and grade
data in encrypted form work with the above?  Would any of the previous
advice be modified?

Thanks in advance!

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:59:33 -0800
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Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Software Ýoutlook and C++ and VB and Perl ¨
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Paulo,

>I know it's possible to access any Windows database from Perl using
>ODBC. Does Outlook have an ODBC interface?
>
>I've successfully updated GDB databases from Perl (on the Desktop, Perl
>5 cannot be run on the LX, AFAIK).

As far as I know, Outlook does not have an ODBC interface. But if I had
source to the Ý ODBC -> GDB ¨ module, I could easily write a corresponding
 ODBC -> Outlook ¨ module. Any ideas where I would find said source? (I
looked on SUPER and didn't see it, but I did see your LX2WIN/WIN2LX
modules... are you also the author of the ODBC -> GDB module?)

Cheers,

- Joe

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My paragraphs are separated by blank lines....just so you know what works
for me.

Using vim 3.0 on the LX, position your cursor on the start of the paragraph
and press Q (that's shift-q), then } (to make the action apply to the end
of the paragraph).

Important: you must also have a parameter set called "text width", which I
believe, is non-standard Vi. TW determines the width of the text (duh), and
works in concert with WM (wrap margin), but is the more important of the
two.

If you want the lines of the wrap to stop at column 65, do ":set tw=65",
then try the above Q} command.

- Longden





mitchell hamm  on 11/18/98 04:50:55 AM

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Subject:  Re: VI (was: Editors and word wrap)




I hate to muddy the thread further, but I have just started using vi
(actually
VIM 5.3) as my message editor for the mutt mailer. I'm a huge newbie, but
got
the latest O'Reilly book on vi and am picking things up quickly. I also
loaded
up Calvin on the LX.

Here's my problem: I can't figure out how to reformat a paragraph after
I've
added or subtracted text and screwed up the margins. I have vim set to
wordwrap
by itself and would like to just hit a couple of keys and have the
paragraph
reformat and fill those margins. I saw the Q} command mentioned, but that
doesn't seem to work and I'm not too clear on how to use fmt.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:19:23 -0600
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              "Stanley A. Gall, Jr." 
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Someone mentioned that the hp200lx had been (inadvertently) renamed the
> "Jornada" on the HP site. I'm not sure if this was fully followed up on
> the list; however, I read in the newspaper today:
>
> "Jornada" is the name of a new HP WinCE "email companion":
>         full(ish) size keyboard
>         large screen
>         1.1 Kg (use your hp for conversion, I'm too lazy - almost 3 lbs)
>         10 hour battery life
>         56k modem built-in
>         standard WinCE pocket applications: toy Word, toy excel,
>          ... you get the idea ...
>
> This seems a good concept; though they have hopes of capturing 40% of the
> market with it at $2000 (can that possibly be right?). At that price,
> they have hopes indeed!

Actually, advertised prices on recent review is US$1000.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:05:20 -0500
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              Al Kind 
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Hi IntelliSynch Users:

     Has anyone figured out a way to translate appointments that span
multiple days from the LX to Sched+ ? There does appear to be a direct
field translation. I guess the round about way is to enter the
appointment separately each day on the LX...don't suppose any wrote a
macro to make the conversion?

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:12:25 -0500
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Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:11:23 -0500 (EST)

01h24m24s ago ...
On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Nickum, Roy H. wrote:

> ...
>
> What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary =
and
> Agenda without closing either?
>
> ...

I highly recommend Software Carousel!

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
*                        |___/
*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Nickum, Roy H. wrote:

> I am setting up a second LX for use by my wife (a German Teacher).  The 2
> applications she will commonly use are the Collins multilingual dictionary &
> Lotus Agenda for classroom and grade management.

Excellent!

> I am looking for suggestions and advice on the following:
>
> How much EMM memory (both minimum and optimal) should be allocated to Lotus
> Agenda?

I'd allocate at least 2MB of EMM to Agenda.  I hope you're running it on a
2x LX, as well.  It's OK on a 2x, but far too slow (IMHO) on a 1x.

> What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary and
> Agenda without closing either?

I'd use Software Carousel... that'll provide seamless task switching.

> Will the use of SecureDrive or SecureDevice to store the classroom and grade
> data in encrypted form work with the above?  Would any of the previous
> advice be modified?

I can't see any reason why SecureDevice wouldn't work, especially if you
loaded it before Software Carousel.

Bill

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:02:09 -0800
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> Bottom line - I feel a  tremendous disturbance of the force Luke, and I =
fear
> the Dark Side has become much more powerful!  Is there a 12 step =
program to
> try and overcome the urge of buying a WinCE platform?

You could do what I did:
Break down and buy one.  You'll get so frustrated with it that you'll
go back to the 200LX as soon as you can.

Bill

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:58:42 -0500
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>> Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:
>> o " "
>> A A O
>> When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?

> I get these letters too (on an American LX), when I press those keys,=
 but
> they are *not* printed on the template.  I saw a French 100LX and it =
had
> lots of the characters in blue on the template.

In addition to my "U.S. English" 200LX, I have an "International Englis=
h"
100LX. I suspect the only difference between U.S. and International Eng=
lish
editions is what is printed on the keyboard template.

All the same non-English characters are available via the same ÝFN¨Ýkey=
¨
combinations on both machines. However,
the 100LX shows these characters on its template, while the 200LX does =
not.
(What is missing from this 100LX is the names for the application keys:=

Filer, Appt, Phone etc.)

Because I occasionally use some of these accented characters (je suis n=
=E9 =E0
Montr=E9al), I created a NoteTaker note with the key combinations to us=
e on
my 200LX.

B.
=

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:23:25 -0800
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While discussing Big Flash cards:

I bought a Kingston 96 Meg pcmcia card that works great in my 200lx and
my Compaq Aero.

However, it won't work in a new Gateway Solo. The Solo reads a Sandisk,
Ace card, MiniStor hard disk, Viper hard disk, but no Kingston.

I e-mailed Bernie Torbik, who put me in touch with the people at
Kingston. They say they have had other reports of incompatibility with
TI pcmcia ports, and are checking with their engineers.

Does anyone have any idea how to get around this problem?

I have run atainit on the card. formated under dos, formatted with
acefmt, all to no avail.

Thanks,

Bob

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I don't think the offenders (AFAIK I could be one) realize their =
offenses unless we tell them.  Have you ever taken the time to see what =
your post look like to a Windows user?  You probably wouldn't even think =
about it unless someone brought it to your attention.  What I'm saying =
is (and I'm not attacking you because I agree that the HTML should be =
turned off) I don't think it would be improper for you to just email the =
offenders and let them know their HTML is on.

I believe it is list policy to turn it off.  Am I correct Al?

Don.


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From:   Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
Sent:   Tuesday, November 17, 1998 7:47 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        FLUFF: Gripe


Could those people on the list with email clients that send mail in HTML
format or whatever MS email software that adds some little file at the =
end
of each message please set them to where they only send ascii to the =
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Does it have a 10 key style keypad? =20

Will it fit in your back pocket?  If you don't carry it everywhere you =
go, it just not the same.  It wouldn't matter if it had 7 CPU's and a =
gigabyte of ram, if its not with me when I need it, its useless.

Don.



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Sent:   Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:20 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        HP Jornada 820

Saw one of these last night at CompUSA. They are on special for $999. =
Broke my
heart, as I think the WinCE machines are finally becoming useful.
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:21:26 -0500
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Tim,

Well, since you asked...

I would really like to see a way to use the built-in Lotus cc:Mail to read
my Lotus Notes e-mail.

How about a nice 3-D action game? (No, I'm not expecting Quake on the LX!
Maybe something like a simple version of Descent, with polygonal flying
ships chasing and shooting each other in a 3-D maze ...imagine a cross
between 3-Demon and the LineWars game I posted about last week.)

I also think an ASCII line drawing program would be useful for quick
diagrams, maps and flowcharts, *especially* if it was tailored to produce
sketches the right size for use as NoteTaker notes. (See PAINT.COM in the
Ziff-Davis PC-Tools collection for a great example of an ASCII line drawing
program -- unfortunately, it trips up on the LX's quirky cursor key codes.)

B.

> A while ago, a thread was started on this list about what software would
be
> useful for the palmtop.  I've got 2-3 months break coming up, and am
> planning to spend some of this time working on new applications.  I
intend
> to finish off my Visual Basic-like development environment, and possibly
try
> a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful sudgestions
> for applications to produce??

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A good point. Perhaps Jeff does not realize how ugly his sig is
to some of us who read the NG with NetScape or IE. Or Donald does not
realize that his message is a pain to read because under NS (mine
anyway) his lack of returns causes the message to run on very long
single lines. Not that it matters much, by the way, as the information
is legible if anyone needs to pull it out.

Perhaps the message is that *all* regular writers should take a moment
occasionally to think about what their messages look like to readers.

Donald Collins wrote:
>
> I don't think the offenders (AFAIK I could be one) realize their offenses unless we tell them.  Have you ever taken the time to see what your post look like to a Windows user?  You probably wouldn't even think about it unless someone brought it to your attention.  What I'm saying is (and I'm not attacking you because I agree that the HTML should be turned off) I don't think it would be improper for you to just email the offenders and let them know their HTML is on.
>
> I believe it is list policy to turn it off.  Am I correct Al?
>
> Don.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Jeff Johns ÝSMTP:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨
>
> 
>

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:55:30 -0500
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Thanks for posting this. http://mapfinder.nos.noaa.gov is a great site.
I didn't find it cumbersome at all. I was getting big 3000x4000 gifs
of charts in less than 10 seconds.  Of course, this requires a fast PC
and net connection. Using it over a modem would be painful. Using
it on a 200LX would be slow torture.  Using it on a Pilot would be
slow torture and lingering death.  I don't even want to *think*
about using it on WinCE.

:-)

I wonder if LXGPS will handle images of this size?

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I second that. SC is the fastest bestest task switcher for the HP if you
have an upgraded unit. It uses a very large swap space and works better
with expanded memory. DOSSHELL is a better option if you have a standard
LX with a flash card. It's slower but takes less swap space on the C:
drive. Plus, it's free.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 11:12 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Switching between 2 DOS programs
>
>
> Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:11:23 -0500 (EST)
>
> 01h24m24s ago ...
> On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Nickum, Roy H. wrote:
>
> > ...
> >
> > What options are there to allow task switching between the
> dictionary and
> > Agenda without closing either?
> >
> > ...
>
> I highly recommend Software Carousel!
>
> Cheers,
>
> *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
> * ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
> */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
> *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
> *                        |___/
> *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
> *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124
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              Martin" at Nov 18, 98 12:21:26 pm
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> I also think an ASCII line drawing program would be useful for quick
> diagrams, maps and flowcharts, *especially* if it was tailored to produce
> sketches the right size for use as NoteTaker notes. (See PAINT.COM in the
> Ziff-Davis PC-Tools collection for a great example of an ASCII line drawing
> program -- unfortunately, it trips up on the LX's quirky cursor key codes.)

There already is an ASCII line drawing program posted on SUPER.  I was
trying to look for it, and can't believe how S...L.....O....W it has been
lately.  I'll post the name of the program later.

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:58:56 -0600
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Try the program on SUPER called TextDraw bu Dieter Schoppitsch.  At URL:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/txtdrw02.zip?dbname=txtdrw02.zip&URL=
ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/txtdrw02.zip

Note that the above is one honkin' URL, really meant to be presented as
one line through SUPER.  If you just use the second half, as I broke it,
it will also work directly getting the file from the author's site using
the ftp protocol in your web browser.

-Chris Lott

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Yes, it's really a 1-step program - buy a Wince machine and you'll never buy
another.  My 320LX is useful only as a paperweight.

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: HP Jornada 820


>> Bottom line - I feel a  tremendous disturbance of the force Luke, and I
fear
>> the Dark Side has become much more powerful!  Is there a 12 step
program to
>> try and overcome the urge of buying a WinCE platform?
>
>You could do what I did:
>Break down and buy one.  You'll get so frustrated with it that you'll
>go back to the 200LX as soon as you can.
>
>Bill
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Hi all,

I read in David Seargents interview with Andreas Garzotto, that Andreas
had communicated with his GSM phone via the IR port on the HP! This
sounds really interesting to me (and I'm sure a number of other people
on the list). Is Andreas listening? Has anyone else any idea what IRDA
driver he used, and where to find it?

Thanks

Goran..

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> Note that the above is one honkin' URL, really meant to be presented as
> one line through SUPER.  If you just use the second half, as I broke it,
> it will also work directly getting the file from the author's site using
> the ftp protocol in your web browser.

Close. That URL does 3 important things:

1) Counts the download so the Top 20 page can report it to you.
2) Redirects the client to an alternate ftp site if the client is WWW/LX
3) Sends all other clients to ftp.one.net which is currently SUPER's main speedy
download point.

Mitch
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:22:50 -0800
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I ALSO AM INTERESTED.  THE NOKIA DIGITAL PHONE FOR THE PACIFIC BELL NET
WORK ALSO HAS AN IR PORT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goran Johansson Ýmailto:goran.johansson@MBOX3.SWIPNET.SE¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 11:15 AM
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>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I read in David Seargents interview with Andreas Garzotto,
> that Andreas
> had communicated with his GSM phone via the IR port on the HP! This
> sounds really interesting to me (and I'm sure a number of other people
> on the list). Is Andreas listening? Has anyone else any idea what IRDA
> driver he used, and where to find it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Goran..
>
> goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se
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Hi All:

01h46m08s ago ...
On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, David Ness wrote:

> A good point. Perhaps Jeff does not realize how ugly his sig is
> to some of us who read the NG with NetScape or IE...
> Donald Collins wrote:
> >
> > I don't think the offenders (AFAIK I could be one) realize their
> > offenses unless we tell them....
> >
> > I believe it is list policy to turn it off.  Am I correct Al?
> >
> > Don.

OK, Jeff is right & so is Don. How about we put a 5 line limit(not
including salutation) on signatures? I know I'm one of the worst
offenders so I will take the lead. I know we are all proud of out ASCII
art, but it is perhaps best kept for private mail.

THANKS!

Cheers,

*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:53:28 -0500
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03h29m57s ago ...
On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:29:01 -0600 (CMT),  wrote:

> I have seen references to both SecureDevice 1.4 and SecureDrive 1.4b as ways
> to store sensitive data in an encrypted form.  Does anyone have comparative
> opinions on them or their application on both the LX and Win95/WinNT
> machines?

PGP 2.6.2 runs well on the palmtop, installation is around 115k.  And I have
written a graphical front end on it to make it more pleasant to use on the
palmtop called LXPGP, information and links to both can be accessed through my
web site, link is in my signature.

Cheers.

--
 -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. .
 .  Walter Francis                                               _. KT4LH  .
 -                  Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer        o:o        -
 .  Wally@POP.UKY.EDU                           http://sac.uky.edu/~wally  .
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Yes, Yes!! If you buy a WinCE machine that is the first step to finding out
that the 200lx is far superior. I bought a WinCE machine (not) at a
Marketpro Computer show for $150.00 just to see what all the hype was about.
I would never trade the usability and speed of my 2MB 200lx for ANY WinCE
(crippled edition) toy.  I promptly sold it because a) the software sucks,
b) the speed is terrible, c) what battery life, and d) there is almost no
commercial software available for WinCE, at least not any that I needed or
wanted.  It appeared to me that they randomly deleted functionality from
Winslow to make it fit in 4MB of ROM.  Well the random removal took out
things like displaying disk space used /available in the windows explorer
while adding in annoyances like you can't remove any database it creates
with out purchasing a third party utility to perform that operation.  In
addition you can't tell it where to keep the phone book, calendar and todo
list databases, they must reside in the specified folder, so you are by
default limited as to the size of the contacts list and todo list.  In my
humble opinion WinCE is just one more attempt by Micro$ to dictate what the
personal computing world will be like and what we will use, NOT!!.

John Guenther

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Hello all.

When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of the assoc.
minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
it was probably a bit beyond his comfort factor skill-wise and way
beyond his wallet capacity.  He told me he was looking for a good
electronic organizer /notetaker in the $150-200 range.  Seems like
I've heard that some of the WinCE machines sell in this range.  Are
there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
recommend for him?

I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
minister?

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:27:37 -0500
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I just got a newspaper style catalogue from Surplus direct in the mail
that showed the Phillips Velo for $150. This is a 4MB machine and is
probably one of the first generation Win CE 1.0 machines. I seem to
remember that the Velo was the highest regarded of the lot.... let's
see... their web site only shows an 8MB model for $299. Maybe give them
a call?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:21 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
>
>
> Hello all.
>
> When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of the assoc.
> minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
> device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
> and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
> it was probably a bit beyond his comfort factor skill-wise and way
> beyond his wallet capacity.  He told me he was looking for a good
> electronic organizer /notetaker in the $150-200 range.  Seems like
> I've heard that some of the WinCE machines sell in this range.  Are
> there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
> recommend for him?
>
> I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
> hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
> to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
> minister?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
> --
>
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Maybe you can negotiate a `devine discount' on a used 200?

R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> Hello all.
>
> When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of the assoc.
> minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
> device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
> and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
> ...
> 

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Look at The Palmtop Paper's advertisement.  A 1meg 200LX refurb sells
for $159 US.

Phil


>He told me he was looking for a good electronic organizer /notetaker in the
>$150-200 range.
>
>
>-Chris Lott
>

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>there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
>recommend for him?
>


The old Palm Pilot 512K model is a pretty good basic machine and can
probably be had for <$100 (??)

rick

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-----Original Message-----
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Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Recommendation non-200 Palmtop


>I just got a newspaper style catalogue from Surplus direct in the mail
>that showed the Phillips Velo for $150. This is a 4MB machine and is
>probably one of the first generation Win CE 1.0 machines. I seem to
>remember that the Velo was the highest regarded of the lot.... let's
>see... their web site only shows an 8MB model for $299. Maybe give them
>a call?

The Phillips Velo was the only success story of the first Generation WinCE
machines. It
has 4mb RAM, WinCE 1.0 (upgradable to 2.0 with a chip for about $100), Voice
Recorder,
with buttons to use when the unit is closed, and a built-in 19.2bps soft
modem making it
the only WinCE machine that can opperate more than 5min using a modem.

All in all not a bad machine, for CE that is.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com


>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:21 PM
>> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
>>
>>
>> Hello all.
>>
>> When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of the assoc.
>> minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
>> device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
>> and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
>> it was probably a bit beyond his comfort factor skill-wise and way
>> beyond his wallet capacity.  He told me he was looking for a good
>> electronic organizer /notetaker in the $150-200 range.  Seems like
>> I've heard that some of the WinCE machines sell in this range.  Are
>> there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
>> recommend for him?
>>
>> I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
>> hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
>> to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
>> minister?
>>
>> -Chris Lott
>>
>> --
>>
>> **************************************************************
>> **********
>> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
>> rclott@ro.com
>> Huntsville, Alabama
>> **************************************************************
>> **********
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:47:14 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
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From:         Mack Baggette 
Subject:      Re: FDISK on a PCMCIA Card
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One possibility for large cards may be to run multiple JAM drives on it with
compression turned off.  I ran a quick test with PALMTST and it gave a time of
7.7 seconds versus 5.5 on the native Sandisk card.  With compression turned on
it took 26.6 seconds.  Of course you lose about 32k of RAM loading up JAM.SYS.

Stacker may offer similar possibilities, but you may have to run a compressed
(turned off of course) and an uncompressed portion on the same drive to get the
same effect.  Stacker can at least take advantage of EMM and possibly take up
less DOS memory.  I am not sure what compression settings exist for it.

The main thing is that it might get around some of the cluster problems by using
the space between files also even without compression turned on.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:10:12 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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So I guess that's a good buy then.... Maybe I'll take the plunge... nah!
`8¬>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Ridenhour Ýmailto:driden@STLNET.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:39 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Padin 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
>
>
> >I just got a newspaper style catalogue from Surplus direct
> in the mail
> >that showed the Phillips Velo for $150. This is a 4MB machine and is
> >probably one of the first generation Win CE 1.0 machines. I seem to
> >remember that the Velo was the highest regarded of the lot.... let's
> >see... their web site only shows an 8MB model for $299.
> Maybe give them
> >a call?
>
> The Phillips Velo was the only success story of the first
> Generation WinCE
> machines. It
> has 4mb RAM, WinCE 1.0 (upgradable to 2.0 with a chip for
> about $100), Voice
> Recorder,
> with buttons to use when the unit is closed, and a built-in
> 19.2bps soft
> modem making it
> the only WinCE machine that can opperate more than 5min using a modem.
>
> All in all not a bad machine, for CE that is.
>
> Dan
> driden@stlnet.com
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 3:21 PM
> >> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
> >>
> >>
> >> Hello all.
> >>
> >> When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of
> the assoc.
> >> minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
> >> device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
> >> and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
> >> it was probably a bit beyond his comfort factor skill-wise and way
> >> beyond his wallet capacity.  He told me he was looking for a good
> >> electronic organizer /notetaker in the $150-200 range.  Seems like
> >> I've heard that some of the WinCE machines sell in this range.  Are
> >> there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
> >> recommend for him?
> >>
> >> I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
> >> hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
> >> to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
> >> minister?
> >>
> >> -Chris Lott
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> **************************************************************
> >> **********
> >> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
> >> rclott@ro.com
> >> Huntsville, Alabama
> >> **************************************************************
> >> **********
> >>
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:22:15 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
Organization: Mayo Medical School
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:
> Does it have a 10 key style keypad?
>
> Will it fit in your back pocket?  If you don't carry it everywhere you
> go, it just not the same.  It wouldn't matter if it had 7 CPU's and a
> gigabyte of ram, if its not with me when I need it, its useless.
>
My sentiments exactly.  I saw a Jornada and a couple other models
demonstrated on television, and it seems pretty clear that the newer
models (at least the ones I've seen) are targeted as _laptop_
replacements.  I wouldn't be surprised if they succeed in that regard,
since the people who routinely lug around 10 lbs+ of laptop hardware on
business trips probably only utilize a fraction of their computers power,
doing simple things like email and word processing.

I will be much more interested in the 320/360-sized replacement.
Hopefully there will be one.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:19:49 -0600
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              Jeff 
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From:         Jeff 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF: Gripe
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, David Ness wrote:

> A good point. Perhaps Jeff does not realize how ugly his sig is
> to some of us who read the NG with NetScape or IE. Or Donald does not
> realize that his message is a pain to read because under NS (mine
> anyway) his lack of returns causes the message to run on very long
> single lines. Not that it matters much, by the way, as the information
> is legible if anyone needs to pull it out.

Hmmm.... this seems like a thread I started some time earlier about
'real' mail clients that properly format messages.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:21:57 -0600
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              Jeff 
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Subject:      Cool!
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My ugly .signature file is only 5 lines!  I meet the standard!

73 Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:29:41 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
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Subject:      Re: Text Drawing
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:
> Try the program on SUPER called TextDraw bu Dieter Schoppitsch.
>
And if you like it enough to add it to your App Manager or HDM screen, I
made an icon for it (simulated ASCII drawing of an LX) which is included
in my JPICONS collection on SUPER.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:27:31 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
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Actually, if you set Netscape to use a nonproportional font like Courier
to display your e-mail, Jeff's signatures (and Al's too) will look fine.

I'm sure there's a place in Internet Explorer to do this as well...

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:15:18 PST
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , greg@NCD.COM
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From:         Greg Renda 
Subject:      Re: map source
Comments: To: Bill Schell 
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              <36530A12.1B60B1E3@bell-labs.com>

> Thanks for posting this. http://mapfinder.nos.noaa.gov is a great site.
> I didn't find it cumbersome at all. I was getting big 3000x4000 gifs

> I wonder if LXGPS will handle images of this size?

It should, once you convert them to 1-bit PCX.

-Greg

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:32:55 +1100
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              Russell Hemery 
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From:         Russell Hemery 
Subject:      Re: Pager Software
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At 09:02 AM 18/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>Please help.
>I need DOS version of the pager message software like Motorola MessageConnect.
>Andy

Lotsa HTML crud deleted.......

Hi Andy..

Please turn HTML OFF in your email prog...

Is this Going to do what you want? If so I can send it to you

DECRIPTION

ACS Page emulates a Motorola AlphaMate (Motorola and AlphaMate are trademarks
of Motorola, Inc.), which is used to send text messages to alpha pagers by
connecting to the alpha pager's company's computer with a 300 baud (or faster)
modem.  ACS Page was compiled with Microsoft BASIC Professional Development
System version 7.0.  A database of users and their pager info is required prior
to operation (see Installation).  The database is made with any text editor.
The database can have a maximum of 100 pagers.


INSTALLATION

Create a text file named ACSPAGE.DAT using any text editor.  Line 1 is the
modem port to use (enter as COM1 or COM2).  The next lines are for optional
commands.  To send a custom modem command, enter /AT followed by the modem
command.  (Example: 9600 bps and higher speed modems should enter /ATN to
disable attempting to connect at a high baud rate.)

Regards

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:32:59 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Jeff Johns 
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From:         Jeff Johns 
Subject:      Sigs

Would someone who uses IE or Netscape please verify that my .signature file
now contains hard returns. Also, if this could be done in a friendly manner
it would be appreciated. Otherwise, flame away.... I haven't been in a good
fight since patrol duty two nights ago .

I did not mean to demean anyone particular person in my original 'Gripe'
post and I have been scolded by the list owner. I have also apologized to
the list owner. My whole point is that I get a lot of attachments and HTML.
Have fun!

73 Jeff




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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:41:39 +1100
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              Russell Hemery 
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Subject:      Possible project?
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Hi all

A couple of messages recently have prompted an idea that may have merrit..

I have a lot of CD's and old programs all over the place that I downloaded
from BBS systems years ago.. I kept them effectively because they were
worthless as I upgraded my computers... Until the LX!!!!

Now I am searching for the old gems I used 10-15 years ago...

Do you have a similar resource/challenge?

IDEA
A central/downloadable DB of progs/sources and descriptions that we all
have/have found as a resource..  Just descriptions.. I believe this will be
large yet manageable on the LX.  It *Should* save all the I'm searching for
....... Questions..

Any thoughts/comments?

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:37:34 +0100
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              Lars Karlsson 
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Hi Tomas you asked about Swedish characters:
>
> If I buy a hp200lx from USA, will i still have these characters on it?
>
 Like a few others already pointed out:
 YES!! we get our swedish characters that way on a US 200LX.
They are not printed on the template though.
 It's no problem since we swedes use those chars a lot ;-)
 I have a 32Mb double speed machine from Thaddeus that works just fine.
 By the way, their service is excellent.

 Regards
 Lars  Stockholm Sweden

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:00:16 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      FWD: Outlook email with binary attachment
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Anyone else on the list have this problem using Outlook?  I would like to
turn this feature/bug off.  I'm also looking for a way to have my editor
automatically line wrap at 78 characters (or is it 80?).

Don.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Peniel Romanelli ÝSMTP:peniel@web2000.net¨
Sent:   Wednesday, November 18, 1998 11:22 AM
To:     Donald Collins
Subject:        Re: FLUFF: Gripe

Hi Donald-

Uhh... since you mention it, I noticed that your messages have a binary
attachment (I guess put there by your MS mail software).  Don't know if
there's a setting to turn it off or not.

Thought you might want to know...   8-)

-Peniel

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> I don't think the offenders (AFAIK I could be one) ....
> I don't think it would be improper for you to just email the
> offenders and let them know their HTML is on.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:41:08 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Software
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Since we are discussing Outlook, I thought I would share
how easy it is to create a Outlook aware app with VB.

Here (bottom) is a sample source code which puts email in the outbox.
I've left out error checking, so just meat & potatoes here.

It wouldn't take much to do same for appt's, contacts...

A rough approach could be to call other apps to do the
dirty work.

Call zip to connect to palmtop and get file.
Call gdbdump to output to CSV.
Open CSV file and synchronize with Outlook.
Output new records to CSV.
Call gdbload to input CSV.
Call zip to connect to palmtop & send file.

But if one of you C programmers could create a DLL that VB
could call,  it would be a cleaner process.  It would probably
be best if their was a library for the communication calls as well.

If I could get cc:Mail's RCONNECT.EXE to run under Win95, I
could use RIMPORT.EXE & REXPORT.EXE to create ascii
files from the palmtop's cc:Mail messages and put them in
Outlook's outbox (& Visa Versa).  This would allow you to
setup RCONNECT on your PC waiting for you to call with your
palmtop.  The messages could then be exchanged with outlook.

Don.

------------------ VB code --------------------------------------------
Public golApp As Outlook.Application
Public golNameSpace As Outlook.NameSpace

Public Function CreateMail(varRecip As String, strSubject As String,  _
  strMessage As String, Optional varAttachment As Variant) As Boolean

    Dim objNewMail As Outlook.MailItem
    Dim blnResolveSuccess As Boolean
    Set golApp = New Outlook.Application
    Set objNewMail = golApp.CreateItem(olMailItem)
    With objNewMail
        .Recipients.Add varRecip
        blnResolveSuccess = .Recipients.ResolveAll
        If Not IsMissing(varAttachment) Then
            .Attachments.Add (varAttachment)
        End If
        .Subject = strSubject
        .Body = strMessage
        If blnResolveSuccess Then
            .Send
        Else
            .Display
        End If
    End With
End Function
-------------------- end code --------------------------------------------
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:46:24 -0600
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List ,
              Jeff Johns 
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From:         Jeff Johns 
Subject:      Re: Pager Software

On 11-18 12:32pm, the following was written:

> Please turn HTML OFF in your email prog...

If the original poster promises to turn off his HTML, and get's in touch
with me I'll email him a copy of Alfie which runs great on the LX and thanks
to one of our more artistic list members has a cool little icon that looks
just like a Motorola Advisor. The software is no longer supported by the
original manufacturer and IKON now owns the name and current version of
software. I spoke with them and they no longer have the old software
available and said they don't mind me letting someone have a copy, although
I don't have anything in writing stating this.

73 Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:47:47 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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Subject:      Re: Sigs
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Jeff,

I've put a jpg of your last mail message (as it appears in outlook express)
at:

http://users.lanminds.com/jsb/images/jeffmail.jpg

Beware, it's from a screen capture on my machine at work which I run at
1280x1024. So there's a lot of pixels in that jpg. (At least I cropped it.)

- Joe

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:50:45 -0600
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Put yours in a database, I'll do the same.  When each of finish we post
the database and or offer it to S.U.P.E.R.

Phil


>
>IDEA
>A central/downloadable DB of progs/sources and descriptions that we all
>have/have found as a resource..  Just descriptions.. I believe this will be
>large yet manageable on the LX.  It *Should* save all the I'm searching for
>....... Questions..
>
>Any thoughts/comments?
>
>Russell
>

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I am internested in creating an LXMAP of the NYC Subway system. It will
necessarily be a rather large undertaking so I want to ask the group if
it would be worthwhile. Would anyone find this useful? Let me know.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:50:46 +0100
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From:         Juerg & Susy Duerig 
Subject:      Re: Are all hp200lx the same?
Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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.... and Buddy and Qualx do not work on a german machine.
Juerg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Bruce Martin
> Sent: Mittwoch, 18. November 1998 17:59
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Are all hp200lx the same?
>
>
> >> Does every boddy have the Swedish letters:
> >> o " "
> >> A A O
> >> When they press Fn-7, Fn-5 and Fn-4?
>
> > I get these letters too (on an American LX), when I press those
> keys, but
> > they are *not* printed on the template.  I saw a French 100LX and it had
> > lots of the characters in blue on the template.
>
> In addition to my "U.S. English" 200LX, I have an "International English"
> 100LX. I suspect the only difference between U.S. and
> International English
> editions is what is printed on the keyboard template.
>
> All the same non-English characters are available via the same ÝFN¨Ýkey¨
> combinations on both machines. However,
> the 100LX shows these characters on its template, while the 200LX
> does not.
> (What is missing from this 100LX is the names for the application keys:
> Filer, Appt, Phone etc.)
>
> Because I occasionally use some of these accented characters (je suis ni `
> Montrial), I created a NoteTaker note with the key combinations to use on
> my 200LX.
>
> B.
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              Frank McConnell 
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From:         Frank McConnell 
Subject:      PCI-to-PCMCIA interface?

This isn't exactly on-topic, but I'm thinking it might be a question
that will be of more interest in the future and one of y'all might
already have an answer (though I didn't find it in the archives).

A friend needs to add PCMCIA sockets to a PC that has no ISA slots --
only PCI.  Has anyone seen a PCMCIA adapter that plugs into a PCI
slot?

His application is for an embedded system of sorts, but given the
rumblings that I've read about how PCs of the not too distant future
will not include ISA slots I'm surprised that I haven't seen anything
like this for desktops yet.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:58:22 -0600
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Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Software

On 11-18 03:41pm, the following was written:

> Here (bottom) is a sample source code which puts email in the outbox.
> I've left out error checking, so just meat & potatoes here.



geez.....

73 Jeff


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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:01:33 -0800
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              Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM
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A keen idea (altho I myself don't use Outlook), but remember that GDBDUMP
doesn't work with appt.adb nor with the world time database (per the
gdbdump doc).. nor with password protected databases.

- Longden





Donald Collins  on 11/18/98 01:41:08 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
      respond to Donald Collins 

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: New Palmtop Software




Since we are discussing Outlook, I thought I would share
how easy it is to create a Outlook aware app with VB.

Here (bottom) is a sample source code which puts email in the outbox.
I've left out error checking, so just meat & potatoes here.

It wouldn't take much to do same for appt's, contacts...

A rough approach could be to call other apps to do the
dirty work.

Call zip to connect to palmtop and get file.
Call gdbdump to output to CSV.
Open CSV file and synchronize with Outlook.
Output new records to CSV.
Call gdbload to input CSV.
Call zip to connect to palmtop & send file.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:04:13 +1100
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              Brendan Macmillan 
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From:         Brendan Macmillan 
Subject:      Re: VI (was: Editors and word wrap)
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Geo:
> Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI?
Do you recall if it has regular expressions? Calvin supports only literal
searching in /here/.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:58:53 EST
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From:         "Lynn M. Cavendish" 
Subject:      Re: Switching between 2 DOS programs
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In a message dated 98-11-18 11:23:31 EST, you write:

<< >
 > What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary and
 > Agenda without closing either?
 >
 > ...

 I highly recommend Software Carousel!
  >>
Strongly concur.  I often have Agenda in one Virtual Palmtop & the Collins
English dictionary in another.  On my (2x, 32 meg) palmtop, its takes 1.5 to 2
sec's to switch from session to session.  Could not recommend it more highly.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:52:37 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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>> Jeff,
>>
>> I've put a jpg of your last mail message (as it appears in outlook
express)
>> at:
>>
>> http://users.lanminds.com/jsb/images/jeffmail.jpg
>
>Wow... that's interesting. Why does it do that?

I have no idea. I mean, I know that it's because Outlook Express is using a
proportional font, but the odd thing is that OE lets you specify one font as
a "Web page font" and another as a "Plain text font". It correctly defaults
to a proportional font for the former and a fixed width font for the latter.
But for some reason, it thinks that it should use the "Web page font" for
everyone's messages (including Jeff's)! Could this be a bug in a piece of
Microsoft software? No, it can't be, must be something else. ;-) (Now keep
in mind I'm using the Outlook Express which is bundled in the beta version
of IE5 that's bundled with NT5 Beta 2, which is not exactly the same IE5 as
the recently released stand-alone IE5 beta... sigh)

At any rate, I've now set both fonts to a fixed width font (Courier New),
and now your signature looks much better :-)

Oh, and I can't resist. Chris wrote to me:

> When I first started
> using e-mail, I was told that one should *always*, without exception,
> use fixed-pitch fonts to compose and read e-mail.

When *I* first starting using e-mail (sonny boy), I didn't have a choice,
because I was using a 24x80 terminal that didn't display anything BUT fixed
width characters. None of this newfangled bitmap display stuff! :-)

- Joe

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:21:02 +0100
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Subject:      Re: New Palmtop Software
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...agree, there was once a dream, having at work (Outlook, what else in a
big company) and at home one schedule, one address book, one notes file.....
and on the road a HP200...
HP200 and Outlook both have advantages and disadvantages, where is light
there is shadow as well. I could live with it if we could synch them
reasonable.
Juerg

...but how do you keep them in line and synched?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of
> Bill Partington
> Sent: Mittwoch, 18. November 1998 00:45
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: New Palmtop Software
>
>
> Couldn't agree more on the Outlook issue.  It is the only issue making
> me consider alternative machines.  And I don't want to because in every
> other way they are inferior products for one reason or another.
>

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:21:05 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Where is the new HP CapShare ...
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Ok, agree I'm not that good in this lightning stuff. What Do I have to do to
get data transfer done with Intellisync? BTW it also works fine with
Transfile.
TIA
Juerg

>
> The JetEye driver and IRDA drivers on SUPER support printing only.  They
> aren't designed for data transfer.
>
> However, they do work great with the Citizen PN60i...
>
> Bill
>

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:22:51 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
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Hi, Jeff and list.
If you run Win3.0 on your LX, Paintbrush will save files as PCX.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:56:40 +1100
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Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ screen cleaning
In-Reply-To:  <4.0.2.19981118114654.00901e90@pop.knoware.nl> from "Frans
              Veldman" at Nov 18, 98 11:53:09 am
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> Personally, it doesn't bother me to much. I just thought you may not have
> realized that for foreign people it is much more difficult to read what you
> write than for native-english people. I can understand German quite well,
> Scandinavian if I try really hard, and your messages if I'm putting some
> effort in it. It's just that this is an international list and that it is
> easiest for everyone if we try to stick to plain English. It is easier for
> me to write in Dutch, but I don't do it here. I guess it is easier for you
> to write in correct English than it is for me.

Frans, I think your English is pretty good. Or perhaps it's just your
argument, which would be persuasive in any language.

OTOH, I don't recall any non-native English speakers actually stating
that they have difficulty with Al's style - though it certainly sounds
plausible.

OTTH, maybe they just gave up?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:19:42 -0800
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Hi all,
        I have a 200lx, but see 100's for sale from time to time. My
question is would a 100lx serve as a backup machine or is there to much
difference between them? By the way, what is the main difference anyway?
speed? software seems the same.  Does hp use the same cpack for both?
Thanks in advance for any replys.
                                  Terry Livingston

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              Bill Childers 
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Well... it's an interesting idea.

Now's as good a time as any to announce my little project:

LXArchive!!!  

It's no big deal, really... what I've done is I've put up a web site with
about 120MB of old palmtop related data.  I've got a near-complete archive
of the old Portables site, run by Anthony Stieber, a UseNet archive of
comp.sys.palmtops going back to 1992 (yea, DejaNews has a searchable
archive, but they only go back to '94.), and similar content to
eddie and monash.  This was kicking around on my hard drive forever... and
since I'm sysadmin for South Valley Internet, making it public was a piece
of cake.  

The URL of the site is http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive

It's WWW/LX friendly.  

Please let me know what you think.

Bill



On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Russell Hemery wrote:

> IDEA
> A central/downloadable DB of progs/sources and descriptions that we all
> have/have found as a resource..  Just descriptions.. I believe this will be
> large yet manageable on the LX.  It *Should* save all the I'm searching for
> ....... Questions..
>

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:44:34 -0600
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Hello All,

I was just thinking that it would be nice if we could all keep our scheduling
and appointment info as well as notes in a web server somewhere that would give
us access to our info anywhere in the world.

 I know this sort of thing already exists, but we could ehance it to allow us to
submit our database files to the website for syncing up with our palmtop data
and it would give us a link back to pull down our updated database.

All of this is quite possible if folks are willing to maintain there info on the
website.  The website could also offer conversion of the databases to different
formats and such.

It could be written using VB, C & ASP which it seems that several users on this
list know including myself.

Just food for thought.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:28:50 -0800
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I'm rusty on my reg expressions, but looking for the word "and" in some
text and used the phrase "/\.

- Longden





Brendan Macmillan  on 11/18/98 02:04:13 PM

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Geo:
> Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI?
Do you recall if it has regular expressions? Calvin supports only literal
searching in /here/.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:25:46 +1100
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> > market with it at $2000 (can that possibly be right?).
>
> Actually, advertised prices on recent review is US$1000.
Sorry, that's Aus$2000. Not only do we Aussies get slammed by the exchange
rate, but also by the tyranny of distance and of the local retailers.


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:22:38 +1100
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> What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary and
> Agenda without closing either?
This suggestion is probably not what you want, because I don't think it
accounts for EMM: "mc" is a tiny program (5k) which allows switching
between DOS sessions. It's instantaneous, very cool. Avail SUPER.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:20:27 +1100
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Subject:      Vim on lx
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> paragraphs separated by blank lines

> :set tw=65 -- and you'll would to put this in your _vimrc, .vimrc, so
> you needn't type it every time ;-)

> Q} command (with cursor positioned at the start of the paragraph)

For the (fairly limited) audience interested in vim on the lx itself,
here's some stats on Vim3:

        VIM3                                                                    CALVIN
        234,766K -- deited (or something)               46,334k
        2 sec -- start up time (on stock lx)    .5 sec

¬p and ¬n are my VIM favourites: they complete the word you are typing by
looking at text (p)revious or (n)ext in the file (when entering text in
insert mode). So I can say au¬p, and get audience. :-o

You also have command history at the : prompt at the bottom of the screen
(like DOSKEY, wced etc etc). There is much, much more in Vim than you
can poke a stick at. Best you can do is wave your arms furiously  ;-)

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:18:08 -0500
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>
>A friend needs to add PCMCIA sockets to a PC that has no ISA slots --
>only PCI.  Has anyone seen a PCMCIA adapter that plugs into a PCI
>slot?
>


This might be hard to come by since you'd need to use a CardBus controller
(32bit version of PCMCIA) to sit on a PCI bus, and they aren't very popular
right now. CardBus is backward compatible with PCMCIA (16bit version), so
regular PCMCIA cards would still work. As far as I know, the only company
making a board like that is TI - mostly to demo their CardBus
ontroller( part number TI3101??). I had one on loan from them for a while,
but I had to send it back. At the time, Win95 did not support the card fully
and TI's drivers were kinda iffy. I think now that a lot of the new
notebooks have CardBus controllers in them (although they don't seem to want
to admit it) and Win98 has native support for CardBus, the driver situation
should have stabilized.

rick

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:18:39 +1100
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At 03:50 PM 18/11/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Put yours in a database, I'll do the same.  When each of finish we post
>the database and or offer it to S.U.P.E.R.

Thx Phil..This maybe a BIG project  :))

Format/what should be included?

Files.bbs is on most of the CD's I have.. Sample listing below.. Should we
include Where/who from? Category?  EMM/mem needed to run?

    =C9=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=
=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=
=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=BB
    =BA              4DOS - FILES FOR 4DOS (PATCHS & PROGRAMS)             =
=BA
    =C8=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=
=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=
=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=CD=BC
4D50B.ZIP       28335  03-10-94  4DOS Patch B
4D50C.ZIP       59612  03-10-94  4DOS Patch C
4FILES.ZIP      97478  10-16-93  4FILES 3.10  MULTI-PURPOSE FILE=
 MANAGER
                               | for 4DOS & NDOS. Does single & marked=
 files.
                               | Also edits file descriptions. Point-&-shoot
                               | file loading into your favorite utilities=
 via
                               | configurable utility ports.  Fast disk=
 navig-
                               | ation!  For DOS, Windows, OS/2 & DV.  Great
                               | interface. Significant additions in this
                               | version.  Shareware, $30 w/ printed manual.
4UTILS.ZIP     125485  11-01-93  Free utilities for 4DOS/NDOS. Includes: 1)
                               | 4DESC 1.60 Full-screen 4DOS file=
 description
                               | editor with cut and paste capability. Calls
                               | file viewer or DOS shell. 2) 4FF 1.7
                               | 4DOS-aware file finder. Looks inside
                               | .ZIP,.ARJ and .LZH files. Displays file
                               | descriptions when files are found. Includes
                               | Turbo Pascal 7.0 source code.

Comments/suggestions anyone?

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:13:26 -0800
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Tim Pitman wrote:

> A while ago, a thread was started on this list about what software would be
> useful for the palmtop.  I've got 2-3 months break coming up, and am
> planning to spend some of this time working on new applications.  I intend
> to finish off my Visual Basic-like development environment, and possibly try
> a Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator.  Does anyone have any useful sudgestions
> for applications to produce??

1) A tool to allow folks to send stuff to a REX.
2) A tool to read all these palm Pilot databases and text files.
3) A tool to allow the use of the IR to send info to other machines with
IR.
4) A way to convert pocket excel files to 123 ON THE palmtop
5) A way to convert 123 files to pocket Excel files ON THE palmtop.

(I can do #s 4 & 5 on the desktop now but would like to be able to combin
#s 3, 4 & 5 and use just the palmtop.

6) An adaption of the Act to Palm Pilot tool to work with Act for HP 1.1.1
So I could send and receive act! contacts from Palm Pilot users.

7) A transfer tool that will allow ACT! for HP 1.1.1 to send and receive
data from ACT! for Win CE

I could go on for some days...




Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:12:32 -0600
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Comments: To: joe@barrera.org

On 11-18 03:47pm, the following was written:

> Jeff,
>
> I've put a jpg of your last mail message (as it appears in outlook express
> at:
>
> http://users.lanminds.com/jsb/images/jeffmail.jpg

Wow... that's interesting. Why does it do that?

73 Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:04:01 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Yes, I think Brendan also mentioned that he uses Fmt with Calvin...the
> issue was Vim which hogs more memory than Calvin.
>
> I'd be willing to look at Oak Hill VI. Send me a copy (off-list) if it's no
> trouble.

I thought Oak Hill Vi was shareware; it's on SimTel.



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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:05:15 -0600
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              Jeff Johns 
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Comments: To: joe@barrera.org

On 11-18 05:52pm, the following was written:

> At any rate, I've now set both fonts to a fixed width font (Courier New),
> and now your signature looks much better :-)

OK... I used PE earlier and hit the  button to give me a hard return
that should keep it from appearing as one line. On Linux how can I use Pico
to enter a hard return or should I just upload my signature file from Goin'
Postal to my /home directory and rename in .signature?

See gang.... there is educational value to this after all  and it even
involves using the LX so maybe it isn't quite as FLUFFY as I thought.

> When *I* first starting using e-mail (sonny boy), I didn't have a choice,
> because I was using a 24x80 terminal that didn't display anything BUT fixe
> width characters. None of this newfangled bitmap display stuff! :-)

My first email was on a TRS-80 Model I Level I that I eventually upgraded to
Level II and added more RAM (I didn't know what a hard disk was but did have
a nifty tape drive). Those were the days.......

73 Jeff


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:07:43 -0000
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
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Subject:      Fido Palmtop echo

DS>Is there a FidoNet, RIME, Intelec or other type of list regarding the Palmto


Well, I do gate this list into a local Fidonet echo, but I've never
bothered about getting it "backboned" which would put it into
international distribution to all 28,000 Fidonet BBSs.  So as it stands
now it's just carried here and on 2 oter local BBSs.  Since I seem to
be the only Palmtop owner among them, I'm the only one to post.  It's
impossible to tell how many others, if any, are reading the echo.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:11:01 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-18 15:21:21 EST, you write:

<< I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
 hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
 to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
 minister?

 -Chris Lott
  >>
If you had HisWord running when you demo'd the palmtop for your minister, I
expect that would have closed the matter!  AFAIK, there is nothing like it
available for WinCE.  Haven't heard of any Bible s/w in that arena as yet.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:11:36 -0600
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On 11-18 04:56pm, the following was written:

> OTOH, I don't recall any non-native English speakers actually stating
> that they have difficulty with Al's style - though it certainly sounds
> plausible.

Speaking of Al..... haven't seen any posts from him the past couple of days.
I often wonder about his style (I don't care one way or the other) but I
hate to think that he was 'tarred & feathered' and run out of town.

73 Jeff


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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > What options are there to allow task switching between the dictionary and
> > Agenda without closing either?
> This suggestion is probably not what you want, because I don't think it
> accounts for EMM: "mc" is a tiny program (5k) which allows switching
> between DOS sessions. It's instantaneous, very cool. Avail SUPER.

MC will only split the 640kb of conventional memory; not enough to run
Afanda (and probably not the dictionary).

Also, it is not availiable from SUPER; I never got around to sending Mitch
the patch I made (the original verison of "Multiple Choice" refuses to run
on the LX).


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:59:06 +1100
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> > OTOH, I don't recall any non-native English speakers actually stating
> > that they have difficulty with Al's style - though it certainly sounds
> > plausible.
>
> Speaking of Al..... haven't seen any posts from him the past couple of days.
> I often wonder about his style (I don't care one way or the other) but I
> hate to think that he was 'tarred & feathered' and run out of town.

     united against a common enemy (WinCE), we stand. Al iss 1 ov uss.


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              Al Kind 
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From:         Al Kind 
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Hi All:

     If you have PE (PalEdit), try Cntl-XD

Cheers,
*           _   __   _        __  Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager
* ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /  Microchem Lab U-193
*/ _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /   3113 Horsebarn Rd
*\_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/    Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
*     |___/        Team 200LX     Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:08:13 -0600
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Re: Sigs
Comments: To: Jeff Johns 

Jeff,

re:
>Would someone who uses IE or Netscape please verify that my .signature file
>now contains hard returns.

Just to make things interesting ... your sigs have always looked fine when I
use Outlook 98 (but not '97) because, my settings make the program take
*most* of the messages from this list and displays them as "Plain Text" (it
even puts that message in the title bar when I'm reading the message).
Outlook '97 used to display it proportionally, with *no* alignment
whatsoever ... I'm sure there's a setting somewhere that would have let me
fix this.

You can't go wrong in designing the .sig in PE or a UNIX/LINUX-based editor,
or even Notepad, etc. BUT some folks may not be displaying it right ÝThe
converse is true ... there are folks who go to great lengths spacing their
sigs to be 'just right' in MS Word, etc., but in a proportional font that
doesn't survive translation/transmission.  Then their stuff looks bad in any
normal email reader!¨.

To link this to the LX Ýtrust me I was going there ;-)  ¨, since this list
is an LX list; if you compose it on the LX, it looks good on the palmtop AND
has the proper hard returns, etc., it should be fine ... No matter what you
do, someone's display spacing may be different, but they should be in the
minority.

For Outlook users (etc).  Sorry I don't know where the setting is, but
Outlook displays work-based messages in RTF, with colors, special fonts,
etc. AND Internet email as plain, monospaced text.  It's nice, if I discover
how to do it, I'll share!

--tim

PS. My sig., while boring, currently doesn't have any vertical alignment
issues, so it doesn't care *HOW* it's displayed!

CPT Tim Raymond
III Corps Public Affairs
254-287-7608
---------------------------------
Truth is the antidote to fear...  -- Emerson.
email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil
71250.1550@compuserve.com

PPS.  My personal email sig. isn't so 'forgiving' but I don't have it
handy...

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:07:29 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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Anyone know of a good QWK offline mail reader?
A PAL app would be prefered, other that that
which one works best on the LX?

It would be great if PNR could read QWK.

Don.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:09:05 +1100
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Al,

And I thought you'd given up on the graphical signature!

Your new 5 line sig is brilliant:

> *           _   __   _        __  Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager
> * ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /  Microchem Lab U-193
> */ _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /   3113 Horsebarn Rd
> *\_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/    Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA
> *     |___/        Team 200LX     Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124

Very nice; I wonder if you use that ascii font site to generate your various
ascii art?

--
Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au           Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
   The Way of strategy is the Way of nature.  When you appreciate the power
   of nature, knowing the rhythm of any situation, you will be able to hit
   the enemy naturally and strike naturally. Miyamoto Musashi (1584-1645)
 Liability Risks of Electronic Id   www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:03:11 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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Subject:      Re: Fido Palmtop echo
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My World Map doesn't have the 610 phone prefix so, were is local?  N.J.?

Don.

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From:   PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM ÝSMTP:PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM¨
Sent:   Wednesday, November 18, 1998 4:08 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Fido Palmtop echo

So as it stands now it's just carried here and on 2 oter local BBSs.

         AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:14:45 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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Are you in Gilroy?

Don.

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The URL of the site is http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive


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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:22:01 -0800
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              David Sargeant 
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> To link this to the LX Ýtrust me I was going there ;-)  ¨, since this
> list is an LX list; if you compose it on the LX, it looks good on the
> palmtop AND has the proper hard returns, etc., it should be fine ...
> No matter what you do, someone's display spacing may be different, but
> they should be in the minority.

Unless you use Andreas's proportional fonts for Post/LX!  

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:55:32 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Cool!
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Jeff wrote:
>
> My ugly .signature file is only 5 lines!  I meet the standard!
>
> 73 Jeff
>
>     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>     |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
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Jeff,

There is nothing wrong with your signiture.  It is just the curmudgeon's
bitch du jur.

73,

David, WA7ZYQ

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:54:37 -0500
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              Jim Saklad 
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Subject:      Re: Fluff: Monty Python (was Re: HAM logging software...)
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BM> Well, I *am* setting up my 200LX to calculate the air-speed velocity of an
BM> unladen swallow...

African or European?

BM> (Run away! Run away!)

NI!

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:54:54 -0500
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              Al Kind 
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Hi All:

     OK, it seems that we can agree that 5 lines is acceptable for
signatures.

     Now can I edit the message suffix to one line pointing to the
HPLX-L Command Center URL? There is now a 200line limit on posts to
the LIST. I will probably drop that to 50-100, so that should
discourage binaries, as well as improve reply editing skills .
Ideally, I would like the LISTSERV to automatically accept <50 lines,
bounce >200 lines, and let 51 -> 199 lines go into a "moderate" mode
so I can decide if it is worth the extra text, or should be sent back
for editing.

     I will probably also set the LIST REPLY such that it automatically
goes to the original author, rather than the LIST, You will still be
able to send back to the LIST, you will just have to add the address in
manually. This should limit those off topic discussions which run on
between two or three people.

     FLUFF & WinCE will still be welcome, but I will probably set up
subLISTs so that those who choose to can not receive those posts.

     It will probably take me a while to get all this together, I'm
still playing catch-up at the lab for being out sick for a week. I'm
trying to keep the "sprit" of the LIST as it was, but reduce the
"pissing contests" that seem to have become the norm of late. Please
feel free to comment to me privately on these proposed changes.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:02:49 +0000
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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Subject:      Re: FDISK on a PCMCIA Card
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> One possibility for large cards may be to run multiple JAM drives on it with
> compression turned off.  I ran a quick test with PALMTST and it gave a time of

Mack:

If anybody can partition a flashcard, it has to be you! (G)

We're waiting ......  (gd&r)

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:02:52 +0000
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> A friend needs to add PCMCIA sockets to a PC that has no ISA slots --
> only PCI.  Has anyone seen a PCMCIA adapter that plugs into a PCI
> slot?
>

Actually, if you find an answer on/off the list, I would like to know,
too.  As I took advantage of one of those cheap desktop pcmcia drives
months ago, only to find when I opened my desktop, NO AVAILABLE SLOTS,
except those unused PCI slots.  So, the drive is boxed in a closet
unused.

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:05:37 -0500
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              David Ness 
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I'm not quite sure what an `LXMAP' is, but I sure would be interested
in a table of the Lat/Long of every NYC Subway station. I've been
looking for this for the Paris Metro for better than a year now, and
it would sure make my metro routing software much more interesting
if it knew `where' the stations were as well as what lines they are
on.

Ed Padin wrote:
>
> I am internested in creating an LXMAP of the NYC Subway system. It will
> necessarily be a rather large undertaking so I want to ask the group if
> it would be worthwhile. Would anyone find this useful? Let me know.
>

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>> A friend needs to add PCMCIA sockets to a PC that has no ISA slots --
>> only PCI.  Has anyone seen a PCMCIA adapter that plugs into a PCI
>> slot?

I have a parallel port version of a PCMCIA card reader which works fine for ATA
flashcards.  It can also handle compact flashcards as well.  I don't have the
details handy, but it should be easily found with a search engine.

Cheers,
Mack

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I have used megamail on the palmtop and it ran nicely.

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> Anyone know of a good QWK offline mail reader?
> A PAL app would be prefered, other that that
> which one works best on the LX?
>
> It would be great if PNR could read QWK.
>
> Don.
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PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:14:48 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      LXMAP of NYC Subway

Evening all........
> Speaking of Al..... haven't seen any posts from
> him the past couple of days.

I wuz busy trying to decipher the following....
> Thx.  Hd nt sn tht n a yl.

Eddies;
RE: NYC transit map.  It wood be easier if you
break it into boros. Nobodies go to da bronx or,
staten Island anyway.  Start wit manhattan from
96th st to the battery. You kan break that to north
and south at 59th street for better resolution.
A seperate one fer queens and one fer Bklyn.

There is one of the LON undergroud on SUPER that
youse kan use fer an example.   Its verry goods.  If yor
really ambitious, yu kan do the metros of BOS, PHL,
SFO, etc. in the same consistant quality.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Tim,
I would like to see an emulator for the ZX that works on the LX. If you build
it, they will come. ;-)

Dennis

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You are still sending some kind of binary attachment.  I have no idea
what it is.  Actually, it appears you are sending more than one from
what Post/lx seems to indicate!!!

> Are you in Gilroy?
>
> Don.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Bill Childers ÝSMTP:childers@GARLIC.COM¨
> Sent:   Wednesday, November 18, 1998 2:53 PM
> To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:        ANN: LXArchive was: Re: Possible project?
>
> The URL of the site is http://clove.garlic.com/lxarchive
>
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On 1998-11-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to lloo@worldnet.att.net

   >> Yes, I think Brendan also mentioned that he uses Fmt with Calvin..
   >>.the  issue was Vim which hogs more memory than Calvin.
   >> I'd be willing to look at Oak Hill VI. Send me a copy (off-list)
   >>if it's no  trouble.

   >I thought Oak Hill Vi was shareware; it's on SimTel.

I've had a chance to use it, and you're right Laust...it comes up with
the shareware nag screen.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 01:19:02 -0500
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I'd be interested. I've downloaded the maps from the web page for
all of the lines, and was going to convert them ( one at a shot )
to pcx files.

I've not  done this yet, but I'd be more than willing to help.
and, i know as least a couple of people in gotham who'd like this. :-)


                                                        --wayne -



On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> I am internested in creating an LXMAP of the NYC Subway system. It will
> necessarily be a rather large undertaking so I want to ask the group if
> it would be worthwhile. Would anyone find this useful? Let me know.
>
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:01:56 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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Subject:      Binary attachments in mail Ý was: Re: LXArchive was: Re: Possible
              project? ¨
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>You are still sending some kind of binary attachment.  I have no idea
>what it is.  Actually, it appears you are sending more than one from
>what Post/lx seems to indicate!!!

The text preceding the binary attachment in Donald's message is:

    Content-Type: application/ms-tnef
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

ms-tnef indicates Microsoft rich text format, sent by exchange (or outlook).

See http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q136/2/04.asp or
http://uk-motss.diversity.org.uk/exchange.html for instructions on how to
get exchange to stop sending RTF. Each page has tips that the other doesn't,
but basically one needs to turn off the "Always send messages in Microsoft
Exchange rich text format" box in the address book entry for the recipients
of the message.

- Joe

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:19:43 EDT
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              Darren Frick 
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> My World Map doesn't have the 610 phone prefix so, were is local?  =
N.J.?
>
> Don.

610 Area code is PA, Delaware Cnty.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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>
> My first email was on a TRS-80 Model I Level I that I eventually =
upgraded to
> Level II and added more RAM (I didn't know what a hard disk was but did =
have
> a nifty tape drive). Those were the days.......
>
> 73 Jeff
>

My first email was on a Vic20 - 23 columns! Boy was I releived when I got =
the
Super-expander so I had enough RAM to run the software called Screen-40. =
Then
I was doubly thrilled to get my 80 column board w/8k from Protecto =
Enterprises.
That was enough RAM to actually write a BBS.

Darren.

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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      PNR version 3.0 beta (Was: Re: QWK reader?)
Comments: cc: Donald Collins 
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Donald Collins  writes:
> Anyone know of a good QWK offline mail reader?
> A PAL app would be prefered, other that that
> which one works best on the LX?
>
> It would be great if PNR could read QWK.

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry when I read this.

PNR version 1.2 did read QWK.  Everyone back then used to say "It
would be great if PNR could access POP servers."  PNR version 2.0 and
later use LXPOP to access POP3 servers, and the QWK support is removed.

So, if you wish to use QWK (which I personally believe is horribly out
of date and not many people use it, but your mileage may vary), then
you'll need to get PNR 1.2 from the following URL:

        http://www.iinet.net.au/~muzza/pnrv12.zip

Note that version 1.2 is not supported by anyone anymore (the original
author no longer has a HP200LX, and I exclusively use POP3 to acess
email), so you're on your own if you want to use it for QWK reading :-)

PNR version 3.0 is in final beta testing right now (you can get it
from the beta testing area of my web site), and will be released in
the next couple of weeks (assuming no-one reports any problems in the
beta).

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:56:41 +1300
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              David Lawrence 
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> From: Patrick West 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: QWK reader?
> Date: Thursday, 19 November 1998 16:24
>
> I have used megamail on the palmtop and it ran nicely.
>
> On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:
>
> > Anyone know of a good QWK offline mail reader?
> > A PAL app would be prefered, other that that
> > which one works best on the LX?

Bluewave works fine & dandy, too.

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              Raffaele Gaioni 
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I'm also interested in getting my ericsson sh888 talk with my hp200lx...
hey Andreas, can you help me?


                        Tnx a lot!
                        Raffaele Gaioni

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I, as another Ericsson 388 GSM phone owner, am also interested in
facilities that will help communication of 200lx and the phone. It would be
great for me to be able to use 200lx key pad for printing and sending SMS
(Short Message). Looking foward to hear Guru's of HPLX about this subject.

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              "D.Wood" 
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Chris Lott

My minister and I use a 200lx because it runs DOS which means
we can run an old version of the PC study bible from bible soft.
Best concordance you could ever want, plus so many translations
and strongs etc. What more reason could you want to get a 200lx.
The PC study bible is not available for WinCE and last time we
checked with them they were not going to support it either, but
things may change.

A 4mb 200lx has enough space for one translation so you will need
a card of some sort. You'd require 1.6mb per translation and a
little more than this for strongs. My minister currently runs
in a 10mb card but we are both going for 40mb cards, about the
biggest I can afford (yeah, I'm buying it for him)

Hope this helps

--
David Wood :) mailto:d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk mailto:d.wood@iee.org
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On Wednesday, November 18, 1998 8:21 PM, R. Christopher Lott ÝSMTP:rclott@RO.COM¨ wrote:
> When I whipped out my 200LX the other evening in front of the assoc.
> minister at church, I found out he was on the lookout for a similar
> device.  I asked him some pointed questions about his intended use,
> and decided that while a HP95/100/200LX would indeed work for him,
> it was probably a bit beyond his comfort factor skill-wise and way
> beyond his wallet capacity.  He told me he was looking for a good
> electronic organizer /notetaker in the $150-200 range.  Seems like
> I've heard that some of the WinCE machines sell in this range.  Are
> there any (WinCE or Otherwise) devices that any of you would
> recommend for him?
>
> I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
> hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
> to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
> minister?

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:21:36 +0800
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> Speaking of Al..... haven't seen any posts from him the past couple of =
days.
> I often wonder about his style (I don't care one way or the other) but =
I
> hate to think that he was 'tarred & feathered' and run out of town.
>
> 73 Jeff
>

I love the fact that I haven't seen his messages for a while. However,
he is more than welcome back- IF he follows our simple rules. This is
actually a HP 95/100/200LX e-mail list and not a fluff list with a lots
of empty talking. Some fluff and comedy can always be fun. But the major
part of the messages should be about palmtop questions/tips e.t.c. After
all this is actually a HPLX e-mail list.

Regards,

Jorgen

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All

As I'm sure you are aware, but I wasn't till recently, Ericsson do a IR
modem for around 140 pounds sterling. I want to see www/lx or similar
applications working with the IR port and then I'll get me a IR modem
for my mobile. Would be nice to fax as well.

As a programmer, I am trying to get details from Ericsson but have
nothing so far.

--
David Wood :) mailto:d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk mailto:d.wood@iee.org
work : http://www.thermoteknix.co.uk   Queen's award for Export 1998




> I'm also interested in getting my ericsson sh888 talk with my hp200lx...
> hey Andreas, can you help me?
>
>
>                         Tnx a lot!
>                         Raffaele Gaioni

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PE (PalEdit) by Andreas Garzotto has build text draw capability.
Simply press Ctrl X D while in PE. It allows to draw boxes and
the like with single or double lines. Very useful!

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:53:17 +0200
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Hi.

I am interested in buying used (second hand) 200LX or 320LX english
version. Anyone interested to sell, please mail me.

best regards, Igal Zak Ýjsz@iiclub.co.il¨

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:55:37 -0500
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THe 100LX and 200LX are very, very much the same.  The hardware is
identical, except for the size of the ROM.  The software applications
are exactly the same, except that the 200LX includes Pocket Quicken
and LapLink Remote Access.

So, if you don't use PQ or LLRA, then a 100LX makes a good backup
machine.

The speeds are the same, unless you have a double speed upgrade, which
is available for both machines.


Stan

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:03:21 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" 
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There is a Bible software program for WinCE.
It is shareware. I have seen it advertised but
have not tried it out.

Yes I use both WinCE (HP360LX) and HP200LX.
I need Exchange sync capability and ability to verify
RAS configurations. Plus I am now testing the
MS Hydra with WinCE.


Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lynn M. Cavendish ÝSMTP:Cavendishl@AOL.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 19:11
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Recommendation non-200 Palmtop
>
> In a message dated 98-11-18 15:21:21 EST, you write:
>
> << I'm tempted to lend him a spare 200LX, but I'm afraid I'll get him
>  hooked, then I'll have to (a) take it away from him, or (b) sell it
>  to him for too low of a price.  What can you do when he's your
>  minister?
>
>  -Chris Lott
>   >>
> If you had HisWord running when you demo'd the palmtop for your minister,
> I
> expect that would have closed the matter!  AFAIK, there is nothing like it
> available for WinCE.  Haven't heard of any Bible s/w in that arena as yet.
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
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In-Reply-To:  <19981119115714.7870.qmail@mannheim1.pop.metronet.de> from
              "Stefan Peichl" at Nov 19, 98 12:56:56 pm
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> PE (PalEdit) by Andreas Garzotto has build text draw capability.
> Simply press Ctrl X D while in PE. It allows to draw boxes and
> the like with single or double lines. Very useful!

While we're talking about editors drawing skills, so does QEDIT.
But I believe you will find that TextDraw is far more capable than
these editors are.  By a BIG margin...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:39:22 EST
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From:         Cathy Schlim 
Subject:      Re: ÝFLUFF¨ screen cleaning- al
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So what was yours about, Jorgen?

Al, where are you?

Cathy

In a message dated 11/19/98 2:22:10 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jorgen@PALMTOP.NET writes:

> the major part of the messages should be about palmtop questions/tips e.t.c.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:40:36 +0000
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              Mikhail Epelbaum 
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Does anyone have this program? I need to change some outputs and
misplaced one of the original diskettes. I have not had the need to
modify anything for years, and foolishly deleted the program from my
hard drive.

R&R is a relational report writer for dBase.

Mikhail

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> So what was yours about, Jorgen?

Oh, try to be funny... hi, hi...
>
> Al, where are you?

Hopefully learn better English and try to find a palmtop topic to
discuss... :)
>
> Cathy

If you didn't understand my message- it was about the fact that this is
a palmtop list, not a "crap talk" list. If you have been on several
other e-mail lists, you will realize that on this list people has so far
been very patient. I have seen other lists that will not accept any
messages outside the topic- not even if it's not that far from the main
topic.

It's always sad when new rules must be enforced. But the amount of fluff
and other junk messages has created this need. So if anyone wants to
complain about the new regulations- then blame yourself if you have sent =
lots
of "junk mail".

Some fun and fluff is always nice! But it must be a limit to it. If a
subscriber likes to write a lots of fun messages, I am sure there are
e-mail list for that topic also. But I personally think it could be nice
if the majority of the messages on a palmtop e-mail list would be
about the palmtop.


Regards,

Jorgen

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              Derek Sontz 
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I am interested in transferring the many databases I have created on my
HP200LX to a similar working database on my PC using Windows NT.  Any
recommendations?  I use ECCOPro PIM, but will learn any other database
that holds the information in the same way.  Thank you in advance.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:15:53 +0000
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              David Given 
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From:         David Given 
Subject:      ÝANNOUNCE¨ Mercat V0.3 beta release
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This is announcing the beta release of my Mercat general-purpose,
cross-platform, byte-compiled and garbage-collected programming system.

I'm posting this here because someone on one of the other lists I subscribe to
recommended me to. Mercat comes with a DOS-16 interpreter, so should, in
theory, run on an HPLX. I haven't done any profiling yet but I think it uses a
fair amount of base memory; and the compiler will almost certainly be unusably
slow. However, if you want a small, reasonably elegent programming language
for your HPLX then this may be the way to go.

Mercat includes the following features:

  * Garbage collection
  * Portable binary files
  * C-like syntax
  * Associative arrays as a primitive type
  * Real strings
  * Easily expandable through a simple, fast system call interface
  * Self-hosted; the compiler and assembler are written in Mercat
  * Bitmap text interface

This version is a beta release. DOS (16 and 32-bit) executables of the
run-time system are provided, but the source is standard Posix C and should
compile on just about anything. The release contains the compiler, assembler
and demo programs in both source and .mo formats.

The demo programs include: paranoia, a port of the BSD game of the same name;
ME, the Mercat Editor, a full-screen editor with drop-down menus written
entirely in Mercat; and Sea Snake, a tacky action(!) game I hacked up in a
week. The last two make extensive use of the bitmap text interface. And, of
course, source for the compiler and assembler are provided to play with.

Currently documentation is extremely limited; there's one README and the
source, and that's it.

Feedback is extremely welcome!

You can get Mercat at:

        http://wired.dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/~dg/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?/Mercat


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:44:29 -0500
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              Stephen Petty 
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From:         Stephen Petty 
Subject:      Fdisk on PCMCIA Card
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I reported that I was able to partition my flash card into two partitions. I
was able to do this by using FDISK that was supplied with Windows 98. This
partition was successful, and the partitions were formatted. Drives H: & I:
now existed on my desktop.
I put the card into my 200lx, but it did not recognize either drive. (boo)
I the tried several combinations of setups - 1 partition primary/1 extended,
2 extended, primary not active, primary active, etcetera. None of these
worked.
Stefan Peichl suggested to use FDISK100 on the palmtop PRIOR to formatting
the drives on the desktop pc.
"I suggest to not format them on the desktop. Slip the card into
the palmtop and run FDSIK100. It should show the 2 partitions.
Abort FDSIK100 after it's initial display and try to format the
two partitions on the palmtop with FORMAT A: and FORMAT B:"
FDISK100 DID recognize BOTH partitions, however, I was unable to FORMAT
them: "Format not supported..."

I am now going to start playing with Partition Magic next.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:48:34 -0700
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When traveling I usually read something while waiting for my next =
flight.  Most of the e-texts that I've found are classics, which is =
fine, but I would like to know if there are any sites that offer/market =
more recent literature.  Books such as "The Greatest Salesman in the =
World", "The Magic of Thinking Big", etc.=20

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Earlier this year, after seeing the superb London Underground LXMap, I tried
to take a crack at converting the NYC subway map.  But I could not for the
life of me figure out how to get that thing legible on the LX screen.  There
are a couple of things  which make the LXMap for the Underground work:  a)
the individual subway lines are pattern-coded and not color-coded as is the
case with the MTA map, b) it looks like the station names were manually
re-typed (my various attempts at conversion left me with, among other
problems, station names which were badly pixelated.)

Outside of the official MTA page, I found the best MTA maps at this link:
http://www.nycsubway.org/maps.html

Kudos to the one who can crack this baby!... Maybe, I'll try again myself.

Ciao
Ed, from the Bronx :)
---------------------
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around the Sun.  (Jack Handey)

al chin wrote (edited):

> Eddies;
> RE: NYC transit map.  It would be easier if you break it into boros.
> Nobody goes to The Bronx or, Staten Island anyway.  Start with Manhattan
> from 96th St. to the Battery.  You can break that to north and south at
> 59th street for better resolution. A seperate one for Queens and one for
> Brooklyn.
> 



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Anbody have a JPG viewer for the palmtop which can view these JPEGs at
this URL ?

http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/11/18/starr.remarks/

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:44:38 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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http://www.nycsubway.org/maps.html

Yep. That's the map I was going to try. It's rather large (~130k) and
definitely needs a touch-up. I converted it to a B&W PCX file with lxpic
and was going to use a draw package to clean it up sector-by-sector. I
figure it would be a fun thing to do in front of the TV. It would take
months to do and that's why I thought I'd gauge the demand for the map
befor wasting the effort. I wrote an email to the author of the site so
I can have permission to plagiarize his work.

I also thought about what Al suggested. There may be very little demand
for the boros (although, it looks like Al probably has managed to piss
of Bronxers and Staten islanders. I think he likes the attention.)
Breaking it up into parts would make it easier.

Right now, I'm waiting for the guy at nycsubway.org to let me use his
work. I'd rather not rip him off. He _DID_ print a copyright on the map.


Later.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM Ýmailto:edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 11:22 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ LXMAP of NYC Subway
>
>
> Earlier this year, after seeing the superb London Underground
> LXMap, I tried
> to take a crack at converting the NYC subway map.  But I
> could not for the
> life of me figure out how to get that thing legible on the LX
> screen.  There
> are a couple of things  which make the LXMap for the
> Underground work:  a)
> the individual subway lines are pattern-coded and not
> color-coded as is the
> case with the MTA map, b) it looks like the station names
> were manually
> re-typed (my various attempts at conversion left me with, among other
> problems, station names which were badly pixelated.)
>
> Outside of the official MTA page, I found the best MTA maps
> at this link:
> http://www.nycsubway.org/maps.html
>
> Kudos to the one who can crack this baby!... Maybe, I'll try
> again myself.
>
> Ciao
> Ed, from the Bronx :)
> ---------------------
> Living on Earth may be expensive, but it includes an annual free trip
> around the Sun.  (Jack Handey)
>
> al chin wrote (edited):
>
> > Eddies;
> > RE: NYC transit map.  It would be easier if you break it into boros.
> > Nobody goes to The Bronx or, Staten Island anyway.  Start
> with Manhattan
> > from 96th St. to the Battery.  You can break that to north
> and south at
> > 59th street for better resolution. A seperate one for
> Queens and one for
> > Brooklyn.
> > 
>

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You wrote:

 > Ideally, I would like the LISTSERV to automatically accept <50 lines,

It seems to me that the old unix 'rn' (readnews) or maybe the usenet
servers themselves used to actually reject posts that had more quoted
material than not.  An ideal feature of the listserv would be to reject
posts with too much quoting.  Is this possible?

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:21:30 -0800
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              Donald Collins 
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From:         Donald Collins 
Subject:      Re: Text Draw

And then what?  I tried the arrow keys and the keypad but got nothing.
I use version 2.0.

Don.
P.S.  Are their still binary attachments down there?

-----Original Message-----
From:   Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE¨
Sent:   Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:57 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        Re: Text Draw

PE (PalEdit) by Andreas Garzotto has build text draw capability.
Simply press Ctrl X D while in PE.

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              Donald Collins 
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Subject:      Re: ADMIN:Sigs, LIST Post Script, etc...

Do you think there could be sufficient discussion to warrant a subLIST for Palmtop
Programming?

Don.


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Subject:        ADMIN:Sigs, LIST Post Script, etc...


     FLUFF & WinCE will still be welcome, but I will probably set up
subLISTs so that those who choose to can not receive those posts.


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:00:11 -0500
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              Ed Padin 
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I couldn't find it in the help screen. Probably need newer version.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dcollins@trendx.com Ýmailto:dcollins@trendx.com¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 12:22 PM
> To:   'HPLX Mailing List'
> Subject:      RE: Text Draw
>
> And then what?  I tried the arrow keys and the keypad but got nothing.
> I use version 2.0.
>
> Don.
> P.S.  Are their still binary attachments down there?
>
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Stefan Peichl ÝSMTP:stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE¨
        > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:57 AM
        > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
        > Subject:      Re: Text Draw
        >
        > PE (PalEdit) by Andreas Garzotto has build text draw
capability.
        > Simply press Ctrl X D while in PE.
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Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:00:01 -0500 (EST)

01h20m49s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote:

Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:59:37 -0500 (EST)

01h20m25s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote:

> Anbody have a JPG viewer for the palmtop which can view these JPEGs at
> this URL ?
>
> http://cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/11/18/starr.remarks/

Stefan Peichl's LXPIC works fine.  It's available in SUPER.

-Peniel
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Check the homepage for SCM Microsystems at http://www.scmmicro.com

They say they have PC card readers for SCSI, PCI, parallel, and USB in
addition to the classic ISA bus version.

Alan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank McConnell ÝSMTP:fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG¨
> Subject:      PCI-to-PCMCIA interface?
>
...

> A friend needs to add PCMCIA sockets to a PC that has no ISA slots --
> only PCI.  Has anyone seen a PCMCIA adapter that plugs into a PCI
> slot?
...

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:11:25 -0500
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Though I am not a New Yorker and have never been on the subway there, I pulled
up that map and it is a really good one. I converted it with LXPic and every
station is very readable and the proportions look good. At 1273 x 1173 pels,
the map should probably have a 50 x 50 pel grid. This is the smallest you can
get without going over 26 sections.

Now the indexing part is the big problem and here is what I am wondering:

Is there any easy way to overlay a 50x50 grid onto a GIF or JPEG? I know you
can index each street location from within edit mode, but this seems faster to
me.

Mitch
SUPER Team

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              Peniel Romanelli 
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Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:09:35 -0500 (EST)

Hi Don & group-

I'm using PE v2.1 and the line-drawing (Ctrl-X D) works on it.  Not
sure about v2.0   BTW are you using Ctrl-X then D  NOT Ctrl-X Ctrl-D?

Hmmm - no attachments now, but WINMAIL.DAT gobbledegook is included in
the message body...

-Peniel
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13m57s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> And then what?  I tried the arrow keys and the keypad but got nothing.
> I use version 2.0.
>
> Don.
> P.S.  Are their still binary attachments down there?

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:24:07 -0500
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I definitely agree that Manhattan should be the priority!  And in halves, as
Al suggested....

Ed Ýnot pissed off in the Bronx :-)¨

Ed Padin wrote:

> 
> I also thought about what Al suggested. There may be very little demand
> for the boros 

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:55:10 -0500
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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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Similar experiences with an even more powerful 486 system lead me to think
the HP 200LX can't even come close to playing MP3 files.

My home system is an EISA machine with a 133 MHz AMD 5x86,128 KB of cache,
40 MB of 70ns RAM, EISA SCSI II host adapter, ATI EISA windows accelerator,
reading from a fast Micropolis hard drive and it was unbearably jerky.
Impossible to listen to a tune using WinAmp 2.0.

Still, since I don't have the source code, it's impossible to say how much
of this behavior was due to the fancy on-screen display things it was trying
to do.

Alan

> From: Ian Butler ÝSMTP:ian@HPLX.NET¨
> Subject:      Re: MP3 on LX?
...
> As an avid MP3er, I recently tried to get WinAmp, DOSAmp, and Open CP to
> play MP3's on an old 486SX that I rescued from certain death in the
> hellish depths of the Boulder City Dump.  While quite possibly the most
> powerful 486SX-33 on the face of the earth (20M RAM, 400M hard disk space,
> and an AWE32 with 2M of onboard memory), it had serious trouble even
> starting to decode MP3s.  In short, they take a LOT of processing power,
> and that's the last resource the 200LX has much of.
>
> FYI, WinAmp played at about 1 second to every four seconds of calculations
> (p.. r.. e.. tty j.. e....rky), and OpenCP and DOSAmp immediately crashed
> due to the lack of an FPU.  This tells me that MP3 decoding needs some
> serious floating point power.  I do know this Am486-80 decodes MP3s just
> fine, but without an FPU, and without the -80, (or the Am486, even :) it's
> unlikely at best.  If you had a special non-FPU decoder and tons of disk
> space, you could write it all to a wave file and play it back using the
> normal utilities, though.

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> I also thought about what Al suggested. There may be very little demand
> for the boros (although, it looks like Al probably has managed to piss
> of Bronxers and Staten islanders. I think he likes the attention.)

Or a former Bronxite - who learned to spell in spite of that early
beginning! (g)

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Actually, now they are being coded, a part of which I quote below.
Before, they were in some other form and did not appear like this.  As I
noted in the email I sent, that did not have any of this junk appended.

And I see you have a second message and it, too, has this gunk
attached!!!


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:14:59 -0600
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I have done no experimenting, but I can't get LXPIC to run on my
200LX(x2/8meg).  I have a few TSRs and what ever but even in a MAXDOS
session I can't get anything but a lock-up.  Sometimes CTL/ALT-DEL will
get me out, most times it's L-SHIFT/CTL-ON that I have to use.

Any ideas out there?  If anyone wants, I'll post my CONFIG.SYS and
AUTOEXEC.BAT files.

Phil

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I saved the message from comp.sys.palmtops.  The instructions appear below,
I will not attach the photo image file, but may e-mail it to anybody who
requests it.
Alan
David E. Wright wrote in message <35620CB3.486BAC64@sprynet.com
>
... I went to my local TruValue Hardware store and bought a strip of
polished brass 0.03in. (1/32) thick x 0.75in. (3/4) width. You can usually
find a small rack with variety of brass strips and tubing at most hardware
stores. I also picked up a product called JB-Kwik, which is an epoxy-like
adhesive that you have to mix. JB-Kwik is a fast drying (cures in 4 minutes)
version of JB-Weld. "This is glue... Strong stuff".
I cut off two pieces, each 0.50 in long. Rounded over the sharp edges.
Bent a 0.06in (1/16) segment of one of the narrow sides down at 45 degrees
to match the chamfer on the housing. Scored the backside of the plate and
the surface of the 200lx housing in a criss-cross manner. Polished the
surface of the plate with steel wool. Mixed the JB-Kwik and coated the
backside if the brass plate with JB-Kwik. Pressed the plate in place, making
sure to lease a tiny gap between the plate and the hinge hub. And allowed
the adhesive to cure overnight.
I don't think it doesn't look too cosmetically disagreeable.

> From: F. Kaufman ÝSMTP:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨
> Subject:      Re: Hinge crack
>
...
> Actually, there is a guy who wrote to comp.sys.whatever with a similar
> idea but used very thin brass strips and even crimped the edge to wrap
> where the case indents near the hinge.  He had attached (anathema) a
> binary file to his message showing a neat looking fix as he applied it
> to both hinges for symmetry.  The "fixes" become contrasting brass
> adornments for the HP kind of matching the HP label in the lower left of
> the lid.  He epoxied the brass to the hp.
>
> I could try and write him and see if he would be willing to have the
> photo posted on the supersite with his instructions.

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Subject:      Re: LXPIC does not like my 200LX.
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Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:37:02 -0500 (EST)

22m11s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> I have done no experimenting, but I can't get LXPIC to run on my
> 200LX(x2/8meg).  I have a few TSRs and what ever but even in a MAXDOS
> session I can't get anything but a lock-up.

Hi-

I've been using LXPIC for several years, and never had this problem.
Runs fine on both an aging 100LX (1 MB single speed) and an 8 MB 200LX
2x machine.  Also have some TSRs loaded, and it works under SysMgr or
in HDM (under MaxDOS).  Maybe your LXPIC file is corrupted.  You could
try getting a fresh copy from SUPER...

If that's not it, maybe posting your config.sys and autoexec.bat files
might help find the problem.

-Peniel
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:22:09 -0500, edwardmoy@EMAIL.COM wrote:

>Earlier this year, after seeing the superb London Underground LXMap, I =
tried
>to take a crack at converting the NYC subway map.  But I could not for =
the
>life of me figure out how to get that thing legible on the LX screen.  =
There
>are a couple of things  which make the LXMap for the Underground work:  =
a)
>the individual subway lines are pattern-coded and not color-coded as is =
the
>case with the MTA map, b) it looks like the station names were manually
>re-typed (my various attempts at conversion left me with, among other
>problems, station names which were badly pixelated.)

Thanks, that was my little baby. As you correctly noted, I retyped all =
the
station names because they become unreadable when reducing the original
scan to a manageable size. I've also done a couple for DC which are
available on the Super Site - they also required a degree of fiddling. =
I'm
of the opinion that starting with someone else's electronic map is not so
good - they tend to be difficult to change to monochrome because of =
strange
colours. This may of course be intentional :-)  I tried to make one up =
for
Boston earlier this year, knowing I would be there in Sept., but failed.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:52:02 -0500
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I have found Fox Pro on ebay - v2.5
Will this work on the 200lx?

Best Regards.

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Hey Al people do live in Da Bronx and Westchester County as well. And there
is no subway in Staten Island (at least the last time I looked) So a Full
subway map would be beneficial.

                -----Original Message-----
                From:   al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
                Sent:   Wednesday, November 18, 1998 9:15 PM
                To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
                Subject:        LXMAP of NYC Subway

                Evening all........
                > Speaking of Al..... haven't seen any posts from
                > him the past couple of days.

                I wuz busy trying to decipher the following....
                > Thx.  Hd nt sn tht n a yl.

                Eddies;
                RE: NYC transit map.  It wood be easier if you
                break it into boros. Nobodies go to da bronx or,
                staten Island anyway.  Start wit manhattan from
                96th st to the battery. You kan break that to north
                and south at 59th street for better resolution.
                A seperate one fer queens and one fer Bklyn.

                There is one of the LON undergroud on SUPER that
                youse kan use fer an example.   Its verry goods.  If yor
                really ambitious, yu kan do the metros of BOS, PHL,
                SFO, etc. in the same consistant quality.

                Semper mobilis,
                yor pal al :-) .............


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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:00:38 -0500
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 > I would like to know if there are any sites that offer/market =
 > more recent literature.

I thought I once saw a post here for _Zen and the art of motorcycle
maintenance_ as an etext.  In any event, some more modern etexts are on
pages at http://fly.to/hplx

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I too would be interested in such a map, tho' I'd be cautious about when &
where in NY I whipped out my palmtop...

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Yeah, New York does'nt issue concealed carry permits.

Ha.

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>Sent:  Thursday, November 19, 1998 3:23 PM
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>
>I too would be interested in such a map, tho' I'd be cautious about when &
>where in NY I whipped out my palmtop...
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Neil Tungate wrote:

> Ýsnip¨ I'm of the opinion that starting with someone else's electronic map is
> not so good - they tend to be difficult to change to monochrome because of
> strange colours.Ýsnip¨

Neil:

Well then, what _was_ the starting point for your map?

(btw ladies and gents, fyi S.I.R.T. is the MTA's Staten Island
line... above
ground tho')

Ed
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I have "Zen..." in HTML format. I will not post it for obvious reasons, but
will email it to interested parties with poor memories. :)

Mitch
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Well, there you have it folks.

If you don't stick to the rules, Jorgen will have you kicked out. He
says it's sad; but what choice does he have? The regulations must be
enforced; the new regime cannot be questioned. Other lists aren't as
nice as this one - and Jorgen wants to bring it into line.

What exactly these "rules" are has not been clearly stated; but I'm
sure that Jorden will let you know if you have transgressed them.


> If you didn't understand my message- it was about the fact that this is
> a palmtop list, not a "crap talk" list.
A bit of bad language is OK, though? And nasty sarcasm? That will
certainly make the list less nice. Cathy, you better not get on the
wrong side of Jorgen, or he'll have you kicked out. You're a nice person,
and you don't fit his vision of a glorious new regime, with unstated
rules and regulations which only he knows.


> If you have been on several
> other e-mail lists, you will realize that on this list people has so far
> been very patient. I have seen other lists that will not accept any
> messages outside the topic- not even if it's not that far from the main
> topic.
Yes; this list is very nice in many ways. It seems you want to, and
indeed are, changing that.


> But I personally think it could be nice
> if the majority of the messages on a palmtop e-mail list would be
> about the palmtop.
Of course I agree.  But you don't seem to be talking about what you
"personally" would like, but about rules and regulations that "must be
enforced". You are insidiously silent on what those regulations are
and how they are to be enforced.


> It's always sad when new rules must be enforced. But the amount of fluff
> and other junk messages has created this need. So if anyone wants to
> complain about the new regulations- then blame yourself if you have sent lots
> of "junk mail".


I want to know what the "new regulations" are. I certainly can't complain
about them if I don't know what they are. Or is that the plan?

        * what are these "new regulations"?
        * has Al been kicked out? If so, can he do anything to get back in,
                or is it final? Did he get an official warning that he was in
                serious danger of being expelled, or did you just have enough of
                him, and that was that?
        * is it permissible to question the new regime?

The fascism of your approach is unbelievable. Do you realise that it may
well do more harm than good to the family of palmtop users? I cannot
believe that Al Kind - whose firm yet gentle guidance of this list
I have long admired - would endorse the views you appear to hold.

Who will be next to be excommunicated? Perhaps me, because I have dared
to question you?

--
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:00:36 -0500
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I have 2.0 and it seems to work okay. Also, there is a version on HPLX's
abandonware site. You can buy 2.5 so that you have legal right to own
Foxpro and then download the abandonware version if 2.5 don't work. I
remember that Foxpro used to come with 2 versions of the program. One
that ru in under 640K with an overlay (suitable for the LX) and another
called foxprox.exe that was a huge executable that installed its entire
contents in expanded memory.

I think that 2.5 should work.


BTW: I just went to look at the listing and noticed that mack@times2tech
is the highest bidder. At least you're up against friendly competition.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Petty Ýmailto:swpetty@KIH.NET¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 2:52 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Fox Pro Database
>
>
> I have found Fox Pro on ebay - v2.5
> Will this work on the 200lx?
>
> Best Regards.
>

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              Jeff 
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote:

> Yeah, New York does'nt issue concealed carry permits.
>
> Ha.

Actually they do... but you have to "know" someone. I have a good friend
in NYC who has a concealed carry permit! But I can't imagine riding the
subway and using my LX, I shudder thinking of all those eyes that would
be staring at it.

73 Jeff

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Huh? Dude, when was the last time you went to NYC? Have you seen Times
Square? It's like Disney Land. The crime rate is at an all time low. We
have a pitbull for mayor that don't take no guff from nobody. NYC is
pretty safe now.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Chow Ýmailto:micro@SRPL.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:24 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ LXMAP of NYC Subway
>
>
> I too would be interested in such a map, tho' I'd be cautious
> about when &
> where in NY I whipped out my palmtop...

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>
> On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote:
>
> > Yeah, New York does'nt issue concealed carry permits.
> >
> > Ha.
>
> Actually they do... but you have to "know" someone. I have a
> good friend
> in NYC who has a concealed carry permit! But I can't imagine
> riding the
> subway and using my LX, I shudder thinking of all those eyes
> that would
> be staring at it.

I do it all the time. No problems. >8¬(

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You know, if Jorgen feels that he needs to be "in control" of the group....so
be it.   I really could care less....I just will avoid opening his messages.
He spends more time complaining than anything.   I can't be bothered.    I
think Al is great....sometimes I have trouble reading his msgs., but at least
he isn't hurtful and he has good info and is willing to be helpful.    I wish
I felt the same with Jorgen.  If Jorgen needs to cut me out of the group to
satisfy some unfulfilled need....ok.   HOWEVER, I thought this was a group of
many....not a group of one.

Cathy

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:25:58 -0600
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>BTW: I just went to look at the listing and noticed that mack@times2tech
>is the highest bidder. At least you're up against friendly competition.

I have been trying to buy a copy for a week now, but was outbid on the last one
yesterday.  I don't mind if someone else from here wants it as I won't have time
to play with it for a while if I did get it.

Cheers,
Mack

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You go girl!

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>From:  Cathy SchlimÝSMTP:CSchlim@AOL.COM¨
>Sent:  Thursday, November 19, 1998 4:17 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Re: ÝFLUFF¨ screen cleaning- al
>
>You know, if Jorgen feels that he needs to be "in control" of the group....so
>be it.   I really could care less....I just will avoid opening his messages.
>He spends more time complaining than anything.   I can't be bothered.    I
>think Al is great....sometimes I have trouble reading his msgs., but at least
>he isn't hurtful and he has good info and is willing to be helpful.    I wish
>I felt the same with Jorgen.  If Jorgen needs to cut me out of the group to
>satisfy some unfulfilled need....ok.   HOWEVER, I thought this was a group of
>many....not a group of one.
>
>Cathy
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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While we're on the subject of Text Draw, can anyone else get it to load in
saved .DAT files or start it up with a filename other than NEW.DAT?  I
always get "runtime error."

I don't know if Dieter Schoppitsch (the author) is still is on this list
or not.

Besides that, I think it's a pretty nifty program.

Thanks for any help.
J. P. Grenert
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The etext is at:
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http://fly.to/hplx   <--old stuff is new...

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Actually I think Chicago is worser for flipping
out yor thing.

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I need a good draw program in order to edit b&w pcx files. I tried
finger paint but it seems cumbersome and has no zoom feature. I need
something that let's me do surgery (zoom mode.)and change individual
pixels.

Thanks.

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At 04:46 PM 11/17/98 +1100, you wrote:
>...something that can be played on the humble LX? I guess that means to
>EVA or animated GIF format (I prefer the latter, because I could also
>...

Are you on a Mac or a WinTel machine?

For Wintel (PCs) you can use a couple of programs, but unfortunately, they
are on the expensive side:

Corel PhotoPaint 8.
Adobe Premiere.

From there, you save the QuickTime as an AVI (for EVA coversion) or as an
animated GIF.

If it is just this one file - I can try and do the convesion for you.
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On 11-19 05:33pm, the following was written:

> I need a good draw program in order to edit b&w pcx files. I tried
> finger paint but it seems cumbersome and has no zoom feature. I need
> something that let's me do surgery (zoom mode.)and change individual
> pixels.

Ditto... that would be cool to have!

73 Jeff


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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:44:53 -0500, Edward Moy wrote:

>Well then, what _was_ the starting point for your map?

A scan I took from a black and white printed map - makes things much
easier :-)

--=20
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> It's always sad when new rules must be enforced. But the amount of fluff
> and other junk messages has created this need. So if anyone wants to
> complain about the new regulations- then blame yourself if you have sent lots
> of "junk mail".

Jorgen,

are you the owner of this list? If so then you can make the rules and we
will abide by them or will leave, (our choice). If you do not own this
list then please don't go around spouting the rule book to the rest of
us.

I think Al Kind does a great job of moderating the list, another
moderator only adds clutter and consumes bandwidth.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:29:20 -0000
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              PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Originally-From: jim@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
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In-Reply-To:  <199811190807.VAA23173@fep2-orange.clear.net.nz>

 > Anyone know of a good QWK offline mail reader?
 > A PAL app would be prefered, other that that
 > which one works best on the LX?

I use 1st Reader, which also has a built in terminal program and
database.  It works great but I recommend a double speed LX for it.
1st Reader also does completely unattended script driven sessions to
log on, download and upload mail and log off.

SLMR also works fine, and is freeware. It's also smaller and faster
than 1st Reader but not as full featured.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:16:36 -0500
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Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:10:05 -0500 (EST)

36m45s ago ...
On Thu, 19 Nov 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> I need a good draw program in order to edit b&w pcx files. I tried
> finger paint but it seems cumbersome and has no zoom feature. I need
> something that let's me do surgery (zoom mode.)and change individual
> pixels.

Hi Ed & group --

If you can find it anyplace that sells antique software, Key Paint2000
from SoftKey does what you want.  I found it in the closeout discount
bin at Office Depot a couple - maybe three years ago.  Runs fine on the
palmtop.  Has a keyboard "mouse" available, but you should use the real
thing.

HTH

-Peniel
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> SLMR also works fine, and is freeware. It's also smaller and faster
> than 1st Reader but not as full featured.


I found slmr to run out of "reply" room on the HP.  Maybe I needed to
provide emm memory or something.  But if I used disk-swap-space, it was
too slow.  It did not have these memory problems my desktop.  But, alas,
the last bbs I regularly called went offline about 2 weeks ago after
many years.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:25:56 -0500
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              David Spoelstra 
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Hmmm.... a long time ago I went on a big hunt for the best "vi" clone.  I
tried Vim, but I found one that I thought was better called "xvi".  It is
only 60,916 bytes.  It also has a "windowing" feature where it will split
the screen multiple times so that you can see and edit several files at
once.  So far it has done every trick I have seen you all mention including
the "/\,
              Brendan Macmillan 
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> Hmmm.... a long time ago I went on a big hunt for the best "vi" clone.

> I tried Vim, but I found one that I thought was better called "xvi".  It is
> only 60,916 bytes.  It also has a "windowing" feature where it will split
> the screen multiple times so that you can see and edit several files at
> once.

Vim can do the windows (¬w¬n) and more! Of course, Vim's much bigger,
which is probably why you choose xvi. I didn't like xvi for some reason
- it was probably the `feel', and that I'd rather have just the two extremes
of vim and calvin.

Anyway, each to his own.
xvi sounds really good! wonder why I didn't like it?


Cheers,
Brendan
PS if you like the s/search/replace/ of vi, have a look at sed (SUPER)

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>Geo:
>> Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI?
>Do you recall if it has regular expressions? Calvin supports only
literal
>searching in /here/.
>Brendan.Macmillan

Yes, it has ., *, ¬, $, Ý...¨, ݬ...¨, and grouping \( and \) for
substitutions.
You can also use | (or) in pattern expressions.
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:58:13 +0100
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              ioio 
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From:         ioio 
Subject:      Convert files 200LX => 320 LX
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Hello

How I must do to convert documents files of a 200 LX to a 360 LX ?

and How I must do to converts documents files of a 360 LX to 200 LX ?

Thanks a lot.

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>I love the fact that I haven't seen his messages for a while. However,
>he is more than welcome back- IF he follows our simple rules. This is
>actually a HP 95/100/200LX e-mail list and not a fluff list with a lots
>of empty talking. Some fluff and comedy can always be fun. But the major=

>part of the messages should be about palmtop questions/tips e.t.c. After=

>all this is actually a HPLX e-mail list.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jorgen

I fully agree with Jorgen about this, word for word.

In the past year the list has become far too fluffy. If this is what Al
Kind want, then of course the rest of us will have to take notice of it
and decide whether to leave or live with it.

Al Kind,
after Brendans, Nick Marsh and Cathys messages - none of which surprise
me greatly - it is time you state once and for all which road your -
once very good - list is to follow.

Is it going to be the HPLX list it once was or continue as the HP-FLUFF
list?

Jorgen Dybdahl

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              Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      Wintel platform for WinCE, hardbox for LX, heat, etc.

        Hello all,

    There will be an x86 WinCE portable, the Cassiopeia FIVA. Sports a
    Cyrix MediaGX 200MHz chip, a 5x86 w/ loads of multimedia built-in,
    but not an FPU, AFAIK. I bet some kind soul should be looking into
    DOS and real Linux port for this machine to see WGIII getting mad.

    Fujitsu, NEC, Toshiba announced a new multi-chip-packaging method
    to integrate static and flash memory in one chip device.
    British Telecom develops a special suit, designed to convert body
    heat to electricity (probably thermoelectric) for PDA/mobil devs.
    I just recently wrote about such project ideas and it turned true.
    (the news where from CNN's Comdex special report #2 and IDG)
    Both could be benefical to the palmtoppers and gadget freaks.

    I found a nice german-made Rotring box, probably an ex circle-
    drawer box. It's 9.7 x 17.6 x 2.55 cm internally and case is 4mm
    thick black plastic, outer finish feel is leatherette. Closes with
    latch; but the hook part is in the lower shell, that's strange. I
    guess it could be OK for HPLX hard case w/ spare AAs or cables.
    Large red letter Rotring logo is in the lower-right corner.

    Where are the doctors, noone is on the list? 200LX was overly po-
    pular with med. universities, somewhere used as official tool.
    Why is that none of them turn up, no medical related questions?
    At least, a doctor comes handy if any list member gets into emer-
    gency and he/she can diagnose remotely in e-mail.

    Idea: let's rename the list to PAlmtop-DOS, so WinCE users will
    get the picture. The name could be shortened to PA-DOS, that
    rhymes with PA-RISC, also a HP product. Anyway, you don't need
    to tell that your DOS palmtop is HP, the others (Sharp3100, Poqet
    and Portfolio) must be very rare by now.

    And if the header of the digest list could include name/address
    of the posters too, not only subjects; that would be very nice.

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:40:41 -0500
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Saw an add for this add dug up this URL. Not quite what we are looking
for, but at least there is development out there:

www.sensystechcom/palmtop/ultimax2000/ultimax.html

It seemed promising until I looked at the display, while backlit, it is
only a half CGA which you the pan around the screen.

Thought some of you would b interested in it - four hours on four AA's -
ouch.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:56:08 -0500
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              Steve Novosad 
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>> I need a good draw program in order to edit b&w pcx files. I tried
>> finger paint but it seems cumbersome and has no zoom feature. I need
>> something that let's me do surgery (zoom mode.)and change individual
>> pixels.

> Ditto... that would be cool to have!

> 73 Jeff

     The old "PC Paint" program that came with Mouse Systems mouses
(mice?) supports CGA and has a zoom feature.  You would have to
convert to PCX though.

Steve

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:14:48 -0600
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              "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
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Subject:      Re: seeking recommendation on good draw program
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If you have a mouse and run Win3.0, Paintbrush is as easy as...
well, Paintbrush with a mouse!  :)

It can save files as B/W PCX.  I use it to convert files for viewing on my
LX, since you can size them, stretch, etc. to compensate for the funny
screen size.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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              al chin 
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From:         al chin 
Subject:      HPLX-L  apology

Hi Al et al.,
Can we, talk huh?  Can we be friends?
I don't agree with what you've said and wish to do.
I have not attacked or even abused anyone, used
foul language, nor incited insurrection.  Originally,
I intended to use phonetic spelling to save (char)
space and time, then a smattering of eubonics, to
entertain.  For this you wish to CENSOR my writing.
Hmmm, Patrick Henry, the ACLU, et al may have
(had) a word or three to say about that.

Yet I retain my confidence in your administration.  It's
your ball.  So, I shall refrain from using my vernacular
on the list in the future so that my few good friends
here will not be further embarrassed.  I take this
opportunity to apologize and thank them for having
spoken up and suffered embarrassment on my behalf.
Thank you my friends.

The baying dogs can wake the neighborhood and
bring down a president, yet who likes baying dogs?
So, let's get on with the show, already.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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From:         Longden Loo 
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Do you happen to recall the price for registration, since it is shareware?
The nag screen doesn't give an email address, tho it does show an Arizona
mail address and a date of 1992.

- Longden






George Coleman  on 11/19/98 09:54:00 PM

Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
      respond to gjcoleman@CSI.COM

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Subject:  Re: VI (was: Editors and word wrap)




>Geo:
>> Does anyone remember Oak Hill VI?
>Do you recall if it has regular expressions? Calvin supports only
literal
>searching in /here/.
>Brendan.Macmillan

Yes, it has ., *, ¬, $, Ý...¨, ݬ...¨, and grouping \( and \) for
substitutions.
You can also use | (or) in pattern expressions.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:51:11 -0600
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I still like that old program. :)
In fact, the mouse I use (at home) is my original unit, was packaged
with PC Paint, and after something more than 10 years is still working
just like new.  It's optical, no ball. :)

Phil


>
>     The old "PC Paint" program that came with Mouse Systems mouses
>(mice?) supports CGA and has a zoom feature.  You would have to
>convert to PCX though.
>
>Steve
>

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              "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
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From:         "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
Subject:      Re: Wintel platform for WinCE, hardbox for LX, heat, etc.
Comments: To: Feher Tamas 
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I am a physician who has been on the list for about 3 months and have
benefitted dramatically from everyones help.  probably are others, but
our questions are database, fax and user oriented so it would be
difficult to tell from following the chatter.  Hp palm tops are
incredibly popular at Cedars-Sinai Hospital where i work.  We have hp6p
printers with infrared printing at most of the nursing stations to print
notes, articles,orders and abstracts.

> ----------
> From:         Feher TamasÝSMTP:E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Feher Tamas
> Sent:         Friday, November 20, 1998 4:47 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Wintel platform for WinCE, hardbox for LX, heat, etc.
>
>         Hello all,
>
>     There will be an x86 WinCE portable, the Cassiopeia FIVA. Sports a
>     Cyrix MediaGX 200MHz chip, a 5x86 w/ loads of multimedia built-in,
>     but not an FPU, AFAIK. I bet some kind soul should be looking into
>     DOS and real Linux port for this machine to see WGIII getting mad.
>
>     Fujitsu, NEC, Toshiba announced a new multi-chip-packaging method
>     to integrate static and flash memory in one chip device.
>     British Telecom develops a special suit, designed to convert body
>     heat to electricity (probably thermoelectric) for PDA/mobil devs.
>     I just recently wrote about such project ideas and it turned true.
>     (the news where from CNN's Comdex special report #2 and IDG)
>     Both could be benefical to the palmtoppers and gadget freaks.
>
>     I found a nice german-made Rotring box, probably an ex circle-
>     drawer box. It's 9.7 x 17.6 x 2.55 cm internally and case is 4mm
>     thick black plastic, outer finish feel is leatherette. Closes with
>     latch; but the hook part is in the lower shell, that's strange. I
>     guess it could be OK for HPLX hard case w/ spare AAs or cables.
>     Large red letter Rotring logo is in the lower-right corner.
>
>     Where are the doctors, noone is on the list? 200LX was overly po-
>     pular with med. universities, somewhere used as official tool.
>     Why is that none of them turn up, no medical related questions?
>     At least, a doctor comes handy if any list member gets into emer-
>     gency and he/she can diagnose remotely in e-mail.
>
>     Idea: let's rename the list to PAlmtop-DOS, so WinCE users will
>     get the picture. The name could be shortened to PA-DOS, that
>     rhymes with PA-RISC, also a HP product. Anyway, you don't need
>     to tell that your DOS palmtop is HP, the others (Sharp3100, Poqet
>     and Portfolio) must be very rare by now.
>
>     And if the header of the digest list could include name/address
>     of the posters too, not only subjects; that would be very nice.
>
>             Sincerely: Tamas Feher.
>
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:19:35 -0600
Reply-To:     MIKE GUMAN 
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Here in Alabama we still have our right to flip.
:-)

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>Sent:  Thursday, November 19, 1998 5:11 PM
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
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>
>Actually I think Chicago is worser for flipping
>out yor thing.
>
>Semper mobilis,
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Reply-To:     David Given 
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From:         David Given 
Subject:      Re: VI (was: Editors and word wrap)
In-Reply-To:  Your message of "Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:47:52 PST."
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>Do you happen to recall the price for registration, since it is sharewar=
e?
>The nag screen doesn't give an email address, tho it does show an Arizon=
a
>mail address and a date of 1992.

But why do you want to *pay* for a copy of vi? Look up vim, at www.vim.or=
g. They do a 16-bit version that should run on the HPLX. It's possibly on=
e of the best vi's around.


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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:32:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      Re: HPLX-L  apology
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Hi All:

49m49s ago ...
On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, al chin wrote:


> ...
> So, I shall refrain from using my vernacular
> on the list in the future so that my few good friends
> here will not be further embarrassed.  I take this
> opportunity to apologize and thank them for having
> spoken up and suffered embarrassment on my behalf.
> Thank you my friends.

Normally I would & should respond by Private Mail, but in this case,
I'm going to make an exception.

I want to publiclly Thank Al for putting the needs of the LX community
before his own philosophy.

Let this be an example of what we all need to keep in mind to make this
LIST work.

I would also like to thank all list members for their patience while
the "rough spots are ironed out"

THANKS! & Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:35:36 GMT
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks 
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From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      Stop the Fighting (Please)
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**
** Please stop the arguments.  It isn't solving anything and it is
** starting to destroy the list.  If the list dies we all lose.
**

Russ Brooks

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:46:38 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Re: seeking recommendation on good draw program
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Actually (much to my chagrin) I found the zoom feature in finger paint.
It does let you do the "pixel surgery" I mentioned. Now I have a new
problem. it seems that finger paint is very limited in the size file
that it will handle. I need to edit a 45K file and it seems to truncate
the picture when I load it.

As some of you may guess, this is in preparation for my attempt to
produce an LXMAP of the NYC subway. I'm trying just to start with
manhattan island.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: James P. Grenert Ýmailto:grenert.james@MAYO.EDU¨
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 9:15 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ seeking recommendation on good draw program
>
>
> If you have a mouse and run Win3.0, Paintbrush is as easy as...
> well, Paintbrush with a mouse!  :)
>
> It can save files as B/W PCX.  I use it to convert files for
> viewing on my
> LX, since you can size them, stretch, etc. to compensate for the funny
> screen size.
>
> Cheers.
> J. P. Grenert
> grenert@mayo.edu
>
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:59:01 -0500
Reply-To:     John Guenther 
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From:         John Guenther 
Subject:      Megahertz XJ2144 Modems for Sale
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I still have several brand new Megahertz XJ2144 PCMCIA Gold Series Data/Fax
Modems with XJACK for sale.  These are NEW in factory sealed static bags,
including manual and phone cable. I bought a 20 pack of them and have tested
one of these in the HP200lx and it worked fine.  The asking price is $26.50
including USPS Priority 2 Day shipping anywhere in the United States.
Please respond by private email to jguenthe@nafis.fp.trw.com.

'Ye Olde Penmaker'
John Guenther

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:28:58 -0600
Reply-To:     Steve Dowell 
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From:         Steve Dowell 
Subject:      200LX to 360LX...

This might be a dumb question, but I guess it's worth asking since I
have someone who is willing to give me a 360LX for free....

Is is possible to completely remove the WinCE OS from the 360LX and
install the 200LX operating system and apps instead? This way you could
essentially have the 200LX in the 360LX form factor without having that
nasty WinCE.

Steve

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:19:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      ADMIN: New LIST Policies
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Hi All:

     OK, the new LIST parameters are in place. Here is what has
changed:

1) Line limit on posts is 100

2) Default REPLY TO is set to original author, not entire LIST. You are
still encouraged to manually enter the LIST address and reply to the
HPLX-L if you feel it is appropriate.

3) 2 new "TOPICS" have been set up, Fluff: & Wince:. If you have a post
that falls into either of these catagories, please use the proper
prefix in the SUBJECT line. By default, everyone now receives all these
posts. If you wish not to receive these topics, send a message to

     LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

with

     SET HPLX-L TOPICS -WinCE
or

     SET HPLX-L TOPICS -Fluff

I have also edited the WELCOME file and have copied it below
(actually, it is in a separate POST, I got "burned" by my own line
limit...alright, that's enough "snickering"). I'm not
sure, but it is possibile that the WELCOME file may not have been
working correctly for some time...should be OK now.

4) Message bottom banner has been reduced to one line pointing to the
HPLX-L Command Center (note I also changed HTTP:// to http://)

5) Limit signatures to 5 lines, not including salutation.

6) As always, drop me a private note if you have comments on my LIST
managemnt. I don't promise to always implement you suggestions, but I
do promise to listen ;-)

Thanks again for bearing with me while I sorted all this stuff out.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
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From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      ADMIN: HPLX-L Welcome File
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     ********************************************
     *                                          *
     *           WELCOME TO HPLX-L !            *
     *                                          *
     ********************************************

Thanks for joining the HPLX-L discussion!


LIST POLICIES (11/20/98):

- HPLX-L was set up to continue the discussion started on
HPLX@palmtop.net. While this list is unmoderated, please limit
discussions to the HPLX series of palmtop computers. Originally, the
intent of this list was to support the HP95/100/200 DOS based machines,
but comments on the HP WinCE based machines are also welcomed if
prefaced by "WinCE:".

- It is suggested that posts to this list be have their subject line
prefixed by one of the following classifications:

- Replies to POSTs to the HPLX-L will by default go to the original
author, if you wish to send to the entire group, please manually
reenter the LIST address (HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU)

ADMIN: list administration
ANN: general announcement
DIS: non technical discussion
FLUFF: personal non LX related anecdotes, "virtual cigars", etc...
FS: / WANT: for sale / wanted
TECH: technical discussions
WINCE: WinCE series LX palmtops

- Please do not post binary files to this list. It will cause problems
with the archive search engine when it gets set up. If you have a
program,etc. which you think would be of interest to list members,
contact Mitch Hamm at MITCH@PALMTOP.NET for possible inclusion on
S.U.P.E.R. site.

- Please also edit the original post when responding to contain only
text pertinent to your comments.

- Any post >100 lines will be bounced back to you. If your answer to
a posted request exceeds 100 lines, please post by private mail, and
then send a note to the HPLX-L that you have the information available
for the asking.

- Please limit signatures to 5 lines, not including salutations.

- Daily digest of this list is available by sending a message with

        SET HPLX-L DIGEST

in the body to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU.

- Daily index of author and subject headers of this list is available by
sending

        SET HPLX-L INDEX

- There are two subtopics on this LIST, WinCE & FLUFF. Default is tahe =
all
subscribers will receive all topics. If you wish not to receive Fluff or =
Wince
posts, send a message with

     SET HPLX-L TOPICS: -WinCE
     SET HPLX-L TOPICS: -Fluff

in the body to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU.

- Flames, Personal Attacks, etc... This is not the forum for airing
personal gripes! If you have a personal problem with another list
member, they have a personal EMailbox, use it, not this list.

- If you have any problems with the list, drop me a line at
MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU I try to download my EMail daily, but be
patient, I have a job and a family too :-)

Below is a Quick Reference card for list control commands (thanks Ian).
Remember, list control commands go to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU not
HPLX-L.

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:33:50 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      WINCE:  ÝHPLX-L¨ 200LX to 360LX...
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain

It would be possible (sort of) if you had the DOS emulator for Wince and
a copy of the connectivity kit that supported CGA. The desktop apps from
the connectivity kit only support EGA graphics. Too bad HP doesn't
release the source code so that someone could re-engineer it to support
CGA... oh, well, keep dreaming.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Dowell Ýmailto:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 12:29 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ 200LX to 360LX...
>
>
> This might be a dumb question, but I guess it's worth asking since I
> have someone who is willing to give me a 360LX for free....
>
> Is is possible to completely remove the WinCE OS from the 360LX and
> install the 200LX operating system and apps instead? This way
> you could
> essentially have the 200LX in the 360LX form factor without
> having that
> nasty WinCE.
>
> Steve
>
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>

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:48:04 -0800
Reply-To:     "Claud G. Cameron" 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Claud G. Cameron" 
Subject:      SET HPLX-L TOPICS -WinCE
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:41:45 -0500
Reply-To:     Rick Kozak 
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From:         Rick Kozak 
Subject:      Re: 200LX to 360LX...
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Although the ROM is removeable (see the little trap door on the bottom front
(if I remember correctly) of the unit with the plug-in card inside), no one
has actually created a non-CE replacement ROM to my knowledge. I don't think
anyone is likely to, either, since HP is distinctly uncooperative on the
topic of releasing hardware details on their unit. Even if someone were to
create a non-CE OS, no DOS apps would run on the 360's SH3 processor unless
run through an emulator. A linux port might be practical, though...

rick


>
>Is is possible to completely remove the WinCE OS from the 360LX and
>install the 200LX operating system and apps instead? This way you could
>essentially have the 200LX in the 360LX form factor without having that
>nasty WinCE.
>

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:59:23 -0800
Reply-To:     "Claud G. Cameron" 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Claud G. Cameron" 
Subject:      SET HPLX-L TOPICS -Fluff
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--------------------------

remove fluff

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:52:02 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Mack Baggette 
Subject:      ClearType
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Did anyone at Comdex see anything on the ClearType font technology from
Microsoft?  It is supposed to make ebooks and text in general much more readable
on LCD and desktop screens.

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/1998/Nov98/ClearTypePR.htm

Cheers,
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:05:26 +0100
Reply-To:     Alexander Stanovoy 
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From:         Alexander Stanovoy 
Subject:      Disk commander
In-Reply-To:  <016001be14bf$4093f520$0500a8c0@pii400>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hello,


Do anybody tryed Disk Commander ( A la Norton Commander) cool thing...
I somebody interrested I can send it or maybe put it on SUPER site.



+---------------------------------------------------------------+
 Alexander Stanovoy 
 Internet and Intranet services developer and administrator
 Lietelija Ltd., Juozapaviciaus 6/2, Vilnius 2005, Lithuania
 Phone: +370-2-730970; FAX:+370-2-730959; Mobile:+370-99-14421
+---------------------------------------------------------------+

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:06:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      LISTSERV RefCard
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Hi All:

     I got a few requests for this, so...

              LISTSERV(R) System Quick-Reference Library
              ------------------------------------------
      ************************************************************
      *                                                          *
      *      LISTSERV QUIKCARD: Most Common user commands        *
      *                                                          *
      ************************************************************

Commands  are listed in  no  specific order, with the  minimum acceptable
abbreviation  in capital  letters. Angle  brackets are  used to  indicate
optional parameters. All commands which  return a file accept an optional
'F=3Dfformat' keyword (without the quotes)  that lets you select the =
format
in  which  you  want  the  file sent;  the  default  format  is  normally
appropriate  in  all  cases. To get the complete  version of this Library
send the command "INFO REFCARD" to "LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU".

List subscription commands:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
SUBscribe    listname               Subscribe to a list, or =
change
                                               your name if already =
subscribed
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
SIGNOFF                                        Remove yourself:
             listname                          - From the specified list
             *                                 - From all lists on that =
server
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
SET          listname options                  Alter your subscription =
options:
             ACK/NOACK/MSGack                  -> Acknowledgements for =
postings
             CONCEAL/NOCONCEAL                 -> Hide yourself from =
REVIEW
             Mail/NOMail                       -> Toggle receipt of mail
             DIGests/INDex/NODIGests/NOINDex   -> Ask for digests or =
message
                                                  indexes rather than =
getting
                                                  messages as they are =
posted
             REPro/NOREPro                     -> Copy of your own =
postings?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
GETPOST      listname ref1 >        Order individual messages =
from
                                               list archives
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
INDex        listname                          Sends a directory of =
available
                                               archive files for the =
list, if
                                               postings are archived
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
REGister     full_name                         Tell your name to LISTSERV,=
 so
                                               that you don't have to =
specify
                                               it on subsequent SUBSCRIBE'=
s
             OFF                               Make LISTSERV forget your =
name
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
REView       listname <(options>               Get information about a =
list
             BY sort_field                     -> Sort list in a certain =
order:
                Country                           by country of origin
                Name                              by name (last, then =
first)
                NODEid                            by hostname/nodeid
                Userid                            by userid
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
SCAN         listname text                     Scan a list's membership =
for a
                                               name or address
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
SEArch       listname word1 >      Search list archives
        or:  word1 > IN listname
             FROM date1                        -> From this date
                  TODAY                        -> From today
                  TODAY-7                      -> In the last 7 days
             TO   date2                        -> To this date
             WHERE
               SUBJECT CONTAINS xxxx           -> Only this subject
             AND/OR
               SENDER  CONTAINS xxxx           -> Only this author
                                               Complex boolean operations =
are
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Help                                           Obtain a list of commands
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
INFO                                    Order a LISTSERV manual, =
or get
                                     a list of available ones =
(if no
                                               topic was specified); or =
get
                                               information about a list
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Syntax of parameters
--------------------
filelist  =3D 1 to 8 characters from the following set: A-Z 0-9 $#@+-_:
fformat   =3D Netdata, Card, Disk, Punch, LPunch, UUencode, XXencode, =
VMSdump,
            MIME/text, MIME/Appl, Mail
fn,ft     =3D same syntax as 'filelist'
full_name =3D firstname  surname (*not* your e-mail =
address)
listname  =3D name of an existing list
user      =3D Any valid Internet address not longer than 80 characters; =
if
            omitted, the 'hostname' part defaults to that of the command
            originator

***************************< END QUIKREF CARD >**************************

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 21:22:57 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad 
Subject:      Re: Disk commander
In-Reply-To:  
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Alexander Stanovoy wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Do anybody tryed Disk Commander ( A la Norton Commander) cool thing...
> I somebody interrested I can send it or maybe put it on SUPER site.

I haven't tried Disk Commander, but there is already one Norton Commander
clone on SUPER called "Volkov Commander". Works great on the LX too.

How large is Disk Commander?

Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:53:39 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Al Kind 
Subject:      John's XJ2144 Gold Series
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All:

     I think I've found a MODEM I'm happy with for my LX...Megahertz
XJ2144 that I got from John Guenther. I
have tried just about every MODEM I could get my paws on: InfoTel
pocket, ZOOM, APEX, EXP, TDK, XJ1144...they all worked to some
extent, but all had some problems. The XJ2144 works great w/ WWW/LX &
my ISP,it runs at 19,200 w/o the "Slowmodem" parameter that the XJ1144
required, it draws low current so logging on w/ AA's is a viable
alternative, and best of all, its got the X-Jack...cable adapter to
carry around. I tested send & receive w/ BGFAX (ala Jorgen's FAXGUI)
and it worked as well. If you want a MODEM for your LX, consider
dropping a note to John.

I don't have a stake in his venture, just a happy camper!

Happy Weekend All & Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
*Tel/FAX (860)486-6126/6124     |___/        Team 200LX

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:54:26 -0800
Reply-To:     "Claud G. Cameron" 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         "Claud G. Cameron" 
Subject:      AHD Icon
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anyone have a good icon for the American Heritage Dictionary?


tia,

Claud

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:24:19 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         David Sargeant 
Subject:      Re: AHD Icon
Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" 
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19981120145426.0079c1f0@popd.ix.netcom.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Anyone have a good icon for the American Heritage Dictionary?

I think I have a mediocre one.    I'll make sure, and if I have it I'll
send it.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:54:32 +1100
Reply-To:     Brendan Macmillan 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Brendan Macmillan 
Subject:      Re: FIRE 1.1
In-Reply-To:  <19981106234744.8998.qmail@mannheim1.pop.metronet.de> from
              "Stefan Peichl" at Nov 7, 98 00:47:28 am
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Stefan Peichl's lovely FIRE program:

> -      take oxygen

There is no stop at zero, and if you keep minusing about 16 times, you
get a different effect again - looks a little like "LIFE", with seagulls
running up the screen.

This program has impressed more than a few people...

--
Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au           Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
 Liability Risks of Electronic Id   www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:19:38 -700
Reply-To:     Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
Subject:      Connectivity pack

Being a long user of this connectivity pack for my LX100 I was astounded
that in my newly revived XT I could not install this pack.
According to the literature the minimum requirements are a 286 and and EGA
monitor. Although the programs are originally meant for the LX I should not be
able to have them on my XT!
Is there a way around the minimum requirements? Any suggestions?
File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:21:46 -0600
Reply-To:     al chin 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         al chin 
Subject:      unsubscribe

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:10:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      SIR laser, flash cloning, Fiva, north-by-nortwest, etc.

        Hello all,

    Technical question: Is it possible to make a binary dump of a
    flash card (the full 10-220MB) and use this archive to recreate
    the filesystem on many other cards of the very same manufactu-
    rer and type / serial run? Just like HDDs can be "cloned".
    I bet ATA-flash should be OK, as AT interface must hide physical
    defects areas from the OS; so every drive appears as same, unlike
    MFM/RLL hard files. Would be important to know.

    What happens if you replace the simple infra LEDs in the 200LX SIR
    interface with laser LEDs? I guess, with accurate aiming one could
    get impressive long-range comms and printing capability. And with
    a laser LED, that has switchable frequency-doubler HPLX may serve
    as a presentation laser pointer. (Batteries sure dislike the idea
    and it may be prohibited in many countries, where "keychain laser"
    is not allowed because of eye injury hazards)

    I've got three e-mails from doctors/med-students, telling they are
    here; so it seems like we don't recognize them because their
    questions are more generic LX related, than strictly medical.

    I visited Casio's site and suprise, they say Cassiopeia Fiva is an
    "A/5 sized Windows 98 PC". I bet there was a misinformation, as I
    also saw it described as WinCE in a local IDG owned weekly paper.
    But now it seems to be a Win'98, which means bad battery life.

    I dug up my floppy boxes and found original 360KB disks for these:
    Accolade Mean 18 Golf (1986) 1 disk
    Microprose M1 Tank Platoon (1989) 3 disks
    Software Simulations Pure-Stat American Football (1988) 2 disks
    All for 8086/CGA. Is there anyone having some how-to or manuals?

    A program idea: an analog on-screen clock especially designed for
    the purpose of finding out the north/compass; that is from the
    relative position of the long and short hands and sun, one can
    calculate the north direction. That could be automated with LX.

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:08:34 -0500
Reply-To:     mitchell hamm 
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From:         mitchell hamm 
Subject:      Re: SIR laser, flash cloning, Fiva, north-by-nortwest, etc.
In-Reply-To:  <8E8CBF714C@sc.bme.hu>; from Feher Tamas on Sat, Nov 21,
              1998 at 11:10:27AM -0500
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>     Technical question: Is it possible to make a binary dump of a
>     flash card (the full 10-220MB) and use this archive to recreate
>     the filesystem on many other cards of the very same manufactu-

I think this would be very possible. In Linux, you can image a device by giving
a command like:

dd -i /dev/hda1 -o /tmp/image

and then write the subsequent disks with:

dd -i /tmp/image -o /tmp/image

You should be able to do the same in DOS with an "image ripper".

Mitch
SUPER TEam

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:56:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Floyd Smithberg 
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From:         Floyd Smithberg 
Subject:      Wet Suit Belt Loop
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I made my own...works great! Get a scrap piece of fairly heavy, stiff black
leather approximately .045 X 1.5" X 8", fold in half and position the fold
near the top edge
of the Wetsuit. Sew across the TOP through the inside SINGLE thickness of
the leather
and the Wetsuit...be sure to sew this first . Fold the leather over, forming
the
loop and sew across the DOUBLE thickness of the leather and the Wetsuit 2
1/4" down
from the top, providing space for belts up to 2" wide. Now, finish by sewing
across
the bottom of the loop through the loop and wetsuit. I used a Viking 990
machine with
standard needle and black button/carpet thread. You may have to adjust
tension and
experiment with scrap material first. Also, postition loop so zipper is at
the top
to prevent accidental opening and dropping LX out the bottom and also making it
easier to access the LX. Completed, it carries nicely on the hip or under
jackets, sweaters etc. Good luck, enjoy..........

     |---------------------------------------------------||
     |                                                   ||<-Zipper
     |                       |:-----------:-----------:| |
     |  Kensington Wetsuit   |: leather   :           :| |  : = Stitch
     |                       |: loop      :           :| |
     |                       |:-----------:-----------:| |
     |                                                   |
     |---------------------------------------------------|
                                          |<--2 1/4--->| |<- ~1/4"
                             |<---- ~4 --------------->|
73 Floyd NQ7X  Phoenix ScQRPion

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:52:13 -0800
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Al, get back here!  Sit. Goodboy.

Really, I just avoyded the hole stupid thred abowt yer typin figuring
people would eventually shut up. Really, Re-subscribe.


Semper mobilis,
yor pal Darren :-) .............

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 09:10:13 +1300
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L  apology

On 1998-11-21 DFrick@mail.snip.net said to katana@clear.net.nz
   >Al, get back here!  Sit. Goodboy.
   >Really, I just avoyded the hole stupid thred abowt yer typin
   >figuring people would eventually shut up. Really, Re-subscribe.
   >Semper mobilis,
   >yor pal Darren :-) .............

Me Too!!!!

Yer (silent) pal David


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 09:10:18 +1300
Reply-To:     katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ
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From:         David Lawrence 
Subject:      Re: Help! PC Card door...

After three years service, my 200LX has suddenly given me grief.
I have two little San/SunDisk cards, and a Piiceon 2880 modem
that I swap in and out and yesterday, the door spring gave it's
last!

The door still works under gravity, but I suspect there may be a
tiny piece of either broken spring or broken plastic now
somewhere inside my beloved computer.

I have never opened the case, resisting all urges valiantly, but
now I wonder if any of the more experienced listmembers have had
this happen, or seen an area of weakness when inside their
palmtops?

Other signs of wear-n-tear: the left hinge is sloppy, and the
(in)famous hairline crack is lurking on my right hinge. Apart
from those, no problems in over a Thousand Days Hard Computing!

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:17:13 +0100
Reply-To:     Franklin Eekhout 
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From:         Franklin Eekhout 
Subject:      Anybody remember SuperCalc, SuperDB & SuperProject?
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Well, I have come across these in a bundle. Anybody that can have them on
their web-site? :-)

I can't be bothered to sell them as I am in Norway, and I don't really think
they are still worth their weight in gold! But some fellow LX'er might have
a use for them, so why not? I have run Supercalc on an XT in the old days,
so I expect the others are palmtop friendly.

SuperCalc 5.0 (Not really interesting for the average LX'er, so I might just
drop this one)

SuperDB 2.2 (Marked For demo only, not for resale! Does that mean I can GIVE
a demo to everybody? :-) Requests for batabase sw crops up often enough to
warrant checking it out.)

SuperProject 1.1

About 1 MB zipped each? They are on 4-5 360 kB floppys, SuperCalc on 7 or
8...

Please limit all replies to franklin@online.no! I will either ul to
somebody's site or collect mail addresses and send the files bcc: on after a
few days. Don't use the list for crap as I have now! :-)

If I am flamed enough then I might consider dropping the thought and throw
them away.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:30:27 +0100
Reply-To:     Franklin Eekhout 
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>    What happens if you replace the simple infra LEDs in the 200LX SIR
>    interface with laser LEDs? I guess, with accurate aiming one could


Mmm, this is a good one! Laser leds need a well regulated power supply,
something the LX hasn't got. Otherwise they burn... :-) The leds are, I
suppose, just pulse modulated, ref the remote commander programs about.
Laser leds are usually frequency modulated, at least in the designs I have
seen.

>    A program idea: an analog on-screen clock especially designed for
>    the purpose of finding out the north/compass; that is from the
>    relative position of the long and short hands and sun, one can
>    calculate the north direction. That could be automated with LX.

That is a good idea! :-) I was just thinking of demonstrating the principle
to my son's class. Would catch their attention at once if I whipped out a
computer. There are only two things that kids can concentrate on today. One
is TV and the other is computers. :-)

br

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 22:37:25 +0100
Reply-To:     Franklin Eekhout 
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Oh no!

You guys killed a subscriber! Shame on you!

RIP, Al. I will miss your posts. They were always interesting to read and
livened up the list a little.

br

Franklin

ps
I don't suppose you wouldl consider a resurrection? I heard they are easy
these days... :-)


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From: al chin 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 4:27 PM
Subject: unsubscribe

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:50:01 -0600
Reply-To:     Alan Peres 
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From:         Alan Peres 
Subject:      DOSSHELL
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When my desktop hard drive recently crashed, I lost the files I had to
implement DOSSHELL. I no longer have access to DOS 5.0 diskettes, so...

If anyone has DOSSHELL files they are willing to share, please email me off
the list so I can arrange to get them.

Thanks


Alan Peres

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:19:18 GMT
Reply-To:     theise@netins.net
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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Backup strategies for upgraded 200LX

Okay gang, I've had my 32M speed-doubled 200LX for about a
year now.  My backup strategy has been to use the HP CPACK
with a serial cable and my desktop.  It has worked well and
I'm quite satisfied with it.

It has occurred to me that if my data were wiped out while
I was traveling, all of my contact information would be
unavailable until I returned home.  I have devised a
solution that will provide emergency backup on the road.

What I did was to zip up all the bare necessities Ý*¨ into
a tidy package and uploaded it to my ISP.  Even if my data gets
entirely wiped out, I can fire up DataCom, download that file
(along with unzip.exe, of course), and be back up and running.

I also took the precaution of writing my ISP's 800 number on
a piece of tape inside my battery cover.  I keep all of that
information stored in my LX, but of course in an emergency
I wouldn't be able to get to it.

Ted


Ý*¨ appt.adb, phone.pdb, QFax, TT/LX, HP Alarm, autoexec.bat,
    config.sys, and all drivers made a file just under 250kb.


--
Theodore Heise          West Lafayette, IN, USA
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:26:04 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:

> Oh no!
>
> You guys killed a subscriber! Shame on you!

I don't think so. It seems he merely switched e-mail accounts, according
to the list of subscribers (availiable from the list server), he currently
subscribes using the address hobchi@hotmail.com



Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:14:30 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
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>What I did was to zip up all the bare necessities Ý*¨ into
>a tidy package and uploaded it to my ISP.  Even if my data gets
>entirely wiped out, I can fire up DataCom, download that file
>(along with unzip.exe, of course), and be back up and running.

You might want to consider printing the bottom of my speed upgrade page
http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html

This page includes some debug scripts that you can type in to get the speed
upgrade going again so that the serial port can be used correctly and to clear
up the screen.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:36:56 -0700
Reply-To:     Dan Sommer 
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From:         Dan Sommer 
Subject:      TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.
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I was playing around with the TV remote program on a double speed =
machine and noticed that it didn't work.  I grabbed my other 200LX, =
which is a single speed machine, and downloaded the TV remote program =
onto it and it worked.  Anybody aware of the problem?  What's the fix?

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:50:28 -0800
Reply-To:     burkec@goldstate.net
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From:         Colin Thompson 
Subject:      Re: Wet Suit Belt Loop
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You might want to visit a dive shop and get some Aqua Seal liquid
urethane rubber.  This is what they use to repair wet suits.  Gluing the
leather to the wet suit with Aqua Seal first will eliminate the stress
points from the stitching.   I use this method in making custom hand gun
holsters.

Colin

Floyd Smithberg wrote:
>
> I made my own...works great! Get a scrap piece of fairly heavy, stiff black
> leather approximately .045 X 1.5" X 8", fold in half and position the fold
> near the top edge
> of the Wetsuit. Sew across the TOP through the inside SINGLE thickness of
> the leather
> and the Wetsuit...be sure to sew this first . Fold the leather over, forming
> the
> loop and sew across the DOUBLE thickness of the leather and the Wetsuit 2
> 1/4" down
> from the top, providing space for belts up to 2" wide. Now, finish by sewing
> across
> the bottom of the loop through the loop and wetsuit. I used a Viking 990
> machine with
> standard needle and black button/carpet thread. You may have to adjust
> tension and
> experiment with scrap material first.

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:35:07 -0500
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Hi All:

02h04m53s ago ...
On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> > Oh no!
> >
> > You guys killed a subscriber! Shame on you!
>
> I don't think so. It seems he merely switched e-mail accounts...

     "Al-philes" fear not! As Laust points out, he mearly switched
switched for JUNO to HOTMAIL.

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 02:41:26 GMT
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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Re: Backup strategies for upgraded 200LX

In message  <014b01be15ad$13056a00$0500a8c0@pii400>, mackb@GTE.NET said:
>
> You might want to consider printing the bottom of my speed upgrade page
> http://www.times2tech.com/speed.html
>
> This page includes some debug scripts that you can type in to get the speed
> upgrade going again so that the serial port can be used correctly and to
> clear up the screen.

Actually, all of the drivers are in the zip file.  Once I download
and unzip it, I just have to reboot and everything is back in spec.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:05:34 -0600
Reply-To:     Mack Baggette 
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>Actually, all of the drivers are in the zip file.  Once I download
>and unzip it, I just have to reboot and everything is back in spec.

I guess that would work as long as you can read the screen to dial up properly
and if you are also not using an external modem of some sort, which most people
don't.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:14:21 -0600
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<>

You also might want to make sure that you make the backup file an .exe so that
you don't need to download pkunzip as well.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:02:58 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: Help! PC Card door...
Comments: To: katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ

Message-Id: <19981122060331.RXG27249@Ý12.72.160.27¨>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 06:03:31 +0000

On 1998-11-22 katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >After three years service, my 200LX has suddenly given me grief.
   >I have two little San/SunDisk cards, and a Piiceon 2880 modem
   >that I swap in and out and yesterday, the door spring gave it's
   >last!
   >The door still works under gravity, but I suspect there may be a
   >tiny piece of either broken spring or broken plastic now
   >somewhere inside my beloved computer.
   >I have never opened the case, resisting all urges valiantly, but
   >now I wonder if any of the more experienced listmembers have had
   >this happen, or seen an area of weakness when inside their
   >palmtops?

I've had the same happen to my LX after about 1 year of daily modem
and flash card swapping. Didn't hear anything rattling inside and the
loose card door is rarely noticed as something's always in the slot.

A spare LX lets me continue to be blase about whether my primary will
give up the ghost. The front latch went loose after about 1.5 years
(fixed good as new with some strips of rubber band) and the right hinge
crack...well hey, that's almost your initiation into the ranks of the
truely faithful ...mine happened in the first year.

Other than that, I'm sorry that I don't have any remedies...I've never
tried to open the case, being one with the proverbial thumbs.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:03:09 -0500
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: North-by-nortwest, etc.
Comments: To: E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU

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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 06:03:42 +0000

On 1998-11-21 E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >A program idea: an analog on-screen clock especially designed for
   >the purpose of finding out the north/compass; that is from the
   >relative position of the long and short hands and sun, one can
   >calculate the north direction. That could be automated with LX.

I'll vote for this also. Another feature I would add is a shaded field
to indicate the direction of the shadow for the range of daylight.

I park my car in the hot sun in South. Calif. for hours sometimes, often
in an area where the location of a tree or building's shadow in 4 hours
is sometimes hard to anticipate. A little analog shadow guide would be
handy.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 03:31:30 -0500
Reply-To:     Jorgen Dybdahl 
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From:         Jorgen Dybdahl 
Subject:      SIR laser, flash cloning, Fiva, north-by-nortwest, etc
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>    Technical question: Is it possible to make a binary dump of a
>    flash card (the full 10-220MB) and use this archive to recreate
>    the filesystem on many other cards of the very same manufactu-
>    rer and type / serial run? Just like HDDs can be "cloned".
>    I bet ATA-flash should be OK, as AT interface must hide physical
>    defects areas from the OS; so every drive appears as same, unlike
>    MFM/RLL hard files. Would be important to know.

I would think that an absolute disk read (int 25h) and ditto write (int
26h) would do this on a sector by sector basis. Most C's have these
functions built into their standard library. =


Jorgen
  =

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Reply-To:     Jorgen Dybdahl 
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>According to the literature the minimum requirements are a 286 and and
>EGA monitor. Although the programs are originally meant for the LX I
>should not be able to have them on my XT!

The LX is a 80186 so HP has probably compiled it with 186/286
instructions.

I suggest that you use something like ZIP made by Meyer. Small, very
fast, reliable and runs on anything. You can automate backups in a
batchfile by using the /T option (and /Ýdirname¨ to specify the
directory) so only files with a newer date/time stamp are copied. I use
it for all transfers to the LX.

INTERLNK/INTERSVR may also run on the XT. However INTERLNK must run as a
TSR on one of the computers, wasting memory. To copy only newer files
you would need something like UPDATE that comes with PC Outline.

You may have a few problems with INTERLINK on more modern equipment as
it does not work properly on harddisks with FAT-32. Running INTERSVR on
the FAT-32-computer after booting to MS-DOS seems to work fine. However,
read \WINDOWS\GENERAL.TXT if you plan to use Interlink on FAT-32.

Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:29:26 -0700
Reply-To:     Terrence Chun 
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Subject:      on-screen calculator?
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Is there a calculator out there which you can call from a hotkey to pop-up
on a database page so that I can punch in a little simple arithmetic while
the database screen is still visible?  I have a database of drug dosages
and need to calculate doses based upon weight and hate having to flip back
and forth between my database and calculator screens (terrible short term
memory).

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:33:10 +1100
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Subject:      Re: Wintel platform for WinCE, hardbox for LX, heat, etc.
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I'm a doctor. Work in operating theatres through week, ER weekends.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:40:34 +1100
Reply-To:     Doric Swain 
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Dear all,

Just received the Megahertz PC card XJ1144 fax modem (with XJACK). Came
with no documentation or software.

I now need to know "what do I do next?" ie. drivers, settings, modem
initialisation etc. I do not plan to buy commercial software to start
with - just using a Telnet connection to check e-mail.

Any advice, suggestions or help greatly appreciated. Seeing as PC card
modem use is so prevelantly used by 200lx'ers, is there a web page with
an FAQ or some such?

Thank you all for your time,

Doric.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:57:52 +0800
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Just bought myself a Canon Powershot
disgital camera and was wondering if
there is any DOS software that would
unload the jpegs from the camera via
it's serial lead?

Regards to all......Liam

PS Damn I see that Semper Mobilis
       chap has returned  8-)

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:39:28 +1300
Reply-To:     katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ
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From:         David Lawrence 
Subject:      Re: North-by-nortwest, etc.

   >I park my car in the hot sun in South. Calif. for hours sometimes,
   >often in an area where the location of a tree or building's shadow
   >in 4 hours is sometimes hard to anticipate. A little analog shadow
   >guide would be handy.
   >- Longden

I love this! Trying to develop a 6,000 year old sun-clock on a
'90s digital computer!


David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:42:34 -700
Reply-To:     Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek 
Subject:      Re: Connectivity pack
Comments: To: JDybdahl@compuserve.com

On 1998-11-22 JDybdahl@compuserve.com said:
 JD>Cc: constant@indo.net.id
 JD>Status: U
 JD>>According to the literature the minimum requirements are a 286 and
 JD>>and EGA monitor. Although the programs are originally meant for
 JD>>the LX I should not be able to have them on my XT!
 JD>The LX is a 80186 so HP has probably compiled it with 186/286
 JD>instructions.
 JD>I suggest that you use something like ZIP made by Meyer. Small, very
 JD>fast, reliable and runs on anything. You can automate backups in a
 JD>batchfile by using the /T option (and /Ýdirname¨ to specify the
 JD>directory) so only files with a newer date/time stamp are copied. I
 JD>use it for all transfers to the LX.
 JD>INTERLNK/INTERSVR may also run on the XT. However INTERLNK must run
 JD>as a TSR on one of the computers, wasting memory. To copy only
 JD>newer files you would need something like UPDATE that comes with PC
 JD>Outline. You may have a few problems with INTERLINK on more modern
 JD>equipment as it does not work properly on harddisks with FAT-32.
 JD>Running INTERSVR on the FAT-32-computer after booting to MS-DOS
 JD>seems to work fine. However, read \WINDOWS\GENERAL.TXT if you plan
 JD>to use Interlink on FAT-32. Jorgen
Thanks for the info. In the meantime I am running LLremote on this computer
and are now able to transfer everything I want.
What is bothering me most is that I seem not to be able to use my phone book
and appointment calender. They seem to need also a 286 ;(

Never wrestle with a pig!
You will both get dirty but the pig likes it.

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:28:12 -0000
Reply-To:     L Harvey 
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Subject:      Re: ADMIN: New LIST Policies
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>Default REPLY TO is set to original author, not entire LIST

Al

What is the thinking behind this change, anybody not realising this, or
answering a message without thinking will not longer post to the list, thus
possibly preventing other list users from benefiting from the reply. I
personally would prefer to see all replies, I would hate to miss out on
some useful info.

Laurence Harvey

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:22:56 +0200
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Subject:      palmtop & auction
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Hi.

are there any other auctions besides ebay where palmtop's being selled for
good prices?


thanks and regards, igal.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:41:32 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
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Hi Liam & All:

04h10m06s ago ...
On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Liam M. Early wrote:

> Just bought myself a Canon Powershot
> disgital camera and was wondering if
> there is any DOS software that would
> unload the jpegs from the camera via
> it's serial lead?

     There is a program calle CAME for cameras that use the SpacLite
microprocessor (EPSON & Olympus(?)). Unfortunately, the CANON does not
fall into that catagory. I used a CF -> PCMCIA adapter when I had my
PowerShot with great success. You should be able to pick up CF readers
fairly reasonably now as well.

Cheers,

*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:40:40 +0100
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Hello all,
First thanks for all the tips and tricks I have been finding on this list
and for efforts to keep this list as a service and a place for reasonable
fun. Being a gynecologist, I will probably be of no good as a "e-mail
consultant" for most of you. Still I am using askSam for DOS for managing
most of my medical needs on a 6MB x2 200LX with a 4MB ATA flash card. Use PE
for writing and POPDBF as a database on the road (to gather data).
Especially in askSam I am willing to try to help anyone using it in the
medical or realted fields.
I really hope that this list will get to be as god as it was about 6 months
ago, with projects like external IR port keyboard, custom written stuff by
expert programmers etc.
All of you have a wonderfull day,
Ales Bourek - Ales B {:>       http://www/med.muni.cz/~bourek

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:03:54 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: on-screen calculator?
Comments: To: tchun@UCLA.EDU

Message-Id: <19981122180427.ERLL24613@Ý12.72.160.234¨>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:04:27 +0000

On 1998-11-22 tchun@UCLA.EDU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Is there a calculator out there which you can call from a hotkey to
   >pop-up on a database page so that I can punch in a little simple
   >arithmetic while the database screen is still visible?  I have a
   >database of drug dosages and need to calculate doses based upon
   >weight and hate having to flip back and forth between my database
   >and calculator screens (terrible short term memory).

LXPro on the SUPER site has a pop-up calculator.

If you can find an old copy of Borland's Sidekick utilities (v1.5, or
something like that), it had a good TSR calculator also, with the added
advantage that you could move it around the screen in case it obscured
the numbers you wanted to enter. It came with a gaggle of other utilities
(the original programmer's PIM, actually), but also had a configuration
utility to let you selectively choose the components you'd need to load
in the TSR to prevent RAM-cram (as it was called in those days).

Drop me an email if you have a hard time finding it.

- Longden


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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:04:03 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: using Megahertz xj1144 fax modem  - advice?
Comments: To: D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU

Message-Id: <19981122180435.ERMO24613@Ý12.72.160.234¨>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:04:36 +0000

On 1998-11-22 D.Swain@CCHS.USYD.EDU.AU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Just received the Megahertz PC card XJ1144 fax modem (with XJACK).
   >Came with no documentation or software.
   >I now need to know "what do I do next?" ie. drivers, settings, modem
   >initialisation etc. I do not plan to buy commercial software to
   >start with - just using a Telnet connection to check e-mail.
   >Any advice, suggestions or help greatly appreciated. Seeing as PC
   >card modem use is so prevelantly used by 200lx'ers, is there a web
   >page with an FAQ or some such?

I have an XJ1144 and don't recall doing anything special to make it work
with Datacomm to dial-in to a Unix server (as a vt100 terminal) where I
telnet'ed to other sites.

Assuming Datacomm is what you're working with, I had mine set to

19200 baud
Com2
8 databits
1 stop
parity=none

Under "advanced":
flow=none
Modem init=&F

Some of those settings were already the default.

Also make sure you enable the modem driver. LXCIC is avaliable from the
SUPER site, but you can start with the built-in cic100 by enabling it
in your autoexec.bat. If you have problems connecting, try dropping the
modem speed as a first recourse.

- Longden

PS. I've used the XJ1144 and XJ3144 for NetTamer, WWW/LX, Datacomm and
several other programs, all without loading anything from the disks
that came with the modems. The books were a help in debugging an
occasional problem.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:04:15 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: DOS Software for Canon Powershot 350
Comments: To: danaan@IINET.NET.AU

Message-Id: <19981122180448.ERPH24613@Ý12.72.160.234¨>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:04:48 +0000

On 1998-11-22 danaan@IINET.NET.AU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >Just bought myself a Canon Powershot
   >disgital camera and was wondering if
   >there is any DOS software that would
   >unload the jpegs from the camera via
   >it's serial lead?

I have a Konica Q-Mini, which is a re-badged version of the same camera
and would be interested in the same. For the moment, I have CF/PCMCIA
adapter and am able to transfer photos from my camera to the PC via the
LX (and Transfile)...this is actually not too bad with the only
inconvenience being the shifting of memory cards to and fro.

   >PS Damn I see that Semper Mobilis chap has returned  8-)

We're one big happy family. Dysfunctionalism gives us character .
BTW... my latin's as bad as my Chinese... what's Semper Mobilis? I know
it's a take on the Marine's Semper Fi (which I also don't understand).

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:04:26 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: North-by-nortwest, etc.
Comments: To: katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ

Message-Id: <19981122180500.ERRH24613@Ý12.72.160.234¨>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:05:00 +0000

On 1998-11-23 katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>I park my car in the hot sun in South. Calif. for hours sometimes,
   >>often in an area where the location of a tree or building's shadow
   >>in 4 hours is sometimes hard to anticipate. A little analog shadow
   >>guide would be handy.

   >I love this! Trying to develop a 6,000 year old sun-clock on a
   >'90s digital computer!

There you go! Just pop a nail into the middle of my screen, aim the
hinge to the North and tell the time by shadow on the keyboard .

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:49:54 GMT
Reply-To:     Ace Frehley 
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From:         Ace Frehley 
Subject:      FUEL ECONOMY CALCULATOR
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Anybody know of some good fuel mileage calculators, that convert
metric values into english units, and back or both.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:46:26 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
Subject:      FLUFF: Latin (was Canon Powershot 350...)
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Longden Loo wrote:
>
> BTW... my latin's as bad as my Chinese... what's Semper Mobilis? I know
> it's a take on the Marine's Semper Fi (which I also don't understand).

If I recall, Semper Fi means "Always true" or something to that effect, and
so, if I interpret correctly, "Semper Mobilis" would mean "Always moving"
or "Always mobile."

Al, feel free to give a correct translation.  :)

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:52:16 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Message-Id: <19981122180427.ERLL24613@Ý12.72.160.234¨>
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:04:27 +0000
> On 1998-11-22 tchun@UCLA.EDU said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
>
> LXPro on the SUPER site has a pop-up calculator.

But bear in mind that LXPro is a programmer's tool and thus the calculator
is limited to integers and it cannot handle numbers greater than  2¬16 or
roughly 65535.

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:42:29 +1300
Reply-To:     David Lawrence 
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On 1998-11-23 katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >>I park my car in the hot sun in South. Calif. for hours sometimes,
   >>often in an area where the location of a tree or building's shadow
   >>in 4 hours is sometimes hard to anticipate. A little analog shadow
   >>guide would be handy.

   >I love this! Trying to develop a 6,000 year old sun-clock on a
   >'90s digital computer!

¨ There you go! Just pop a nail into the middle of my screen, aim the
¨ hinge to the North and tell the time by shadow on the keyboard .
¨
¨ - Longden

How about you face the LX north, hit it with a hammer to magnetize it,
and then you can dangle it from a string attached to the nail, and it would
point north...

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:04:06 +0100
Reply-To:     Dejan Radic 
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From:         Dejan Radic 
Subject:      mouse again
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    I know that this subject has been discussed many times,
and that it should be a piece of cake, but in my case it's a
nightmare.

    For a long time I've been using the cable I made myself
(according to the scheme from a user's guide) for the
transfer of data. It worked and works perfectly. But, when I
wanted to connect a mouse, I made a null-modem according to
this scheme:

F1015A     NULL-MODEM
 1-1          1-1            1-1
 2-3          2-3            2-2
 3-2          3-2            3-3
 4-6          4-6            4-4
 5-5    +     5-5      =     5-5
 6-4          6-4            6-6
 7-8          7-8            7-7
 8-7          8-7            8-8
 9-9          9-9            9-9
10-5

    But I had to move the mouse across the whole table in
order to move the cursor even a little bit. (I used amouse
and gmouse.) What could cause such a problem? Is it the
driver, or the type of the mouse, or the scheme, or my
port, or the length of the cable? I tried to do a self-test
of the com-port (ESC+ON), but unsuccessfuly, because, I
think, some of the pins on the port should be connected,
but I don't know which.

    I opened a few types of the mouse: some of them used 6
pins, some of them used 4 (No.2,3,5,7); some of them had 2
buttons, some of them had 3. Can I use every one of them or
just the particular ones?

    Since this is the only computer I've got, I don't know
anything about the mouse and the stuff like that. I'm
asking you what model of the mouse and of the driver I
need. Thanks in advance.


Dejan Radic
dradic@eunet.yu
Belgrade, Yugoslavia

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:06:20 PST
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Happy days is here again;

Things To Say If You Get Caught Sleeping At Your Desk

"They told me at the blood bank this might happen."

"Whew! Guess I left the top off the liquid paper"

"I was testing the keyboard for drool resistance"

"Actually I'm doing a "Stress Level Elimination Exercise Plan" (SLEEP) I
learned it at the last mandatory seminar you made
me attend.

yor pal al................


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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:18:02 PST
Reply-To:     al chin 
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Subject:      Semper Fi
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To all who see this, greetings;

Semper Fideles meant ALWAYS FAITHFUL to the Roamins.
To the Marines, it meant, "Screw you buddy, I got mine."

Semper Mobiles means ALWAYS MOBILE.

Latin 102,
yor pal al..................


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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:37:59 +10
Reply-To:     Alain 
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Subject:      is SUPER working?
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hi,
I wasn't able to access to http://www.palmtop.net/
this week-end, and I still can't.
is Super working?
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:02:05 GMT
Reply-To:     Russel Brooks 
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From:         Russel Brooks 
Subject:      FLUFF - FreeCell FAQ
Comments: To: freewhl44@aol.com
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I stumbled on a FreeCell FAQ that might be interesting to players of
Curtis Cameron's FreeCell.

http://members.aol.com/wgreview/fcfaq.html

The FC that the page talks about is a Windows version so I don't think
the game numbers will match the HPLX version.  The one interesting fact
I learned is that there are games that cannot be won.

Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:24:03 -0800
Reply-To:     Brian Sugita 
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From:         Brian Sugita 
Subject:      Re: is SUPER working?
Comments: To: Alain 
In-Reply-To:  <199811222238.JAA15441@mail.alphalink.com.au>
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I have the same problem.  I've had the problem before as well.
It seems at times,  palmtop.net and hplx.net both don't have a
DNS listing.  When this occurs I've tried clearing my cache and
connecting via netcom, wolfenet, earthlink and worldporte (4
separate ISP's), with no luck.  Ya just have to wait until they
come back online. :)

Brian S

At 09:37 AM 11/23/98 +10, Alain wrote:
>hi,
>I wasn't able to access to http://www.palmtop.net/
>this week-end, and I still can't.
>is Super working?
>Alain
>Al
>Wyn@alphalink.com.au
>Melbourne / Australia
>http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn
>
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Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
Subject:      Re: is SUPER working?
Comments: To: Brian Sugita 
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On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Brian Sugita wrote:

> I have the same problem.  I've had the problem before as well.
> It seems at times,  palmtop.net and hplx.net both don't have a
> DNS listing.  When this occurs I've tried clearing my cache and
> connecting via netcom, wolfenet, earthlink and worldporte (4
> separate ISP's), with no luck.  Ya just have to wait until they
> come back online. :)

Generally, the errors on my site have three different reasons.  Either:

A) your cache has stored an old IP address for www.hplx.net.  The IP
address changes every time I disconnect and log back on.  In this case,
you need to clear the cache and have it do a DNS lookup of www.hplx.net
again.

B) the www.hplx.net. machine is down.  This has been done a few times in
the past few days due to some upgrades and tests.  I'm running Linux on
the machine, so it's generally very stable.

C) the other machine, the nameserver for hplx.net, which is at my
workplace, is down. This has been done a LOT the last few days because we
had a big network crash at work.  When it's down, your machine won't
be able to resolve the IP address for the host www.hplx.net.
Fortunately, this machine usually pretty stable as well.

So, if you have a problem connecting, try doing a lookup of www.hplx.net
and try the IP address you get.  If that doesn't work, odds are one of my
computers is not working right.  :(

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:01:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Allen Solof 
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From:         Allen Solof 
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Includes manuals and disks.

Also available extra AC adapter.

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:11:39 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
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The Palmtop Network had a disk crash on Saturday, and Mitch Hamm is trying
to get it back up.  In the meantime, I'm going to try to get a coyp of the
latest super.html page and post it to my site, so the files can still be
accessed from the list.  In the meantime, if anybody needs files from
SUPER, they can be found at ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm, although
you'll have to remember what the filenames are.  

If anybody has a copy of the super.html file, please let me know!

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:07:05 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters 
Subject:      Re: palmtop & auction
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LXs get advertised in newsgroups and auction offerings
are often noted in the newsgroups. www.dejanews.com is a good
way to scan for offering, eg:
  (fs or sale) and (100lx or 200lx)
I often  us the powersearch option and limit my search to the
last two weeks.
You can also search of the seller's name to find out how
active the person is on the web (and how he would value his rep).
Getting a phone # and a brief call can also make
you feel comfortable about prepaying.


Fifth Element wrote:

> Hi.
>
> are there any other auctions besides ebay where palmtop's being selled for
> good prices?
>
> thanks and regards, igal.
>
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:46:35 -0600
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>You can also search of the seller's name to find out how
>active the person is on the web (and how he would value his rep).
>Getting a phone # and a brief call can also make
>you feel comfortable about prepaying.

Check out www.iescrow.com for payment options between buyers and sellers.  It is
fairly easy to use, adds about 5% to the costs, but you can use your credit
card.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:36:39 -0800
Reply-To:     Bill Childers 
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From:         Bill Childers 
Subject:      Re: Help! PC Card door...
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I had this happen on both my stock 4mb unit and my 2x/32mb hotrod.  My
recommendation: Open up the case immediately.  The little door spring
lost it's tang that keeps the tension inside the case.  Problem is,
that little tang is the same material as the spring; fine gauge music
wire.  Highly conductive scraps of material and surface mount
electronics don't mix.

After pulling that lil pieece of wire out, I took a small pair of
needlenose pliers and straigthened out one of the spring loops into a
new tang, and reinstalled it.  Good as new...

Bill

> After three years service, my 200LX has suddenly given me grief.
> I have two little San/SunDisk cards, and a Piiceon 2880 modem
> that I swap in and out and yesterday, the door spring gave it's
> last!
>
> The door still works under gravity, but I suspect there may be a
> tiny piece of either broken spring or broken plastic now
> somewhere inside my beloved computer.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:46:46 -0600
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From the seller's point of view, it slows the payment
by at least two weeks, and the buyer can change his mind
after he receives good merchandise. If your selling price
is right, you will get multiple offers and can refuse to
use escrow.

Mack Baggette wrote:

> >You can also search of the seller's name to find out how
> >active the person is on the web (and how he would value his rep).
> >Getting a phone # and a brief call can also make
> >you feel comfortable about prepaying.
>
> Check out www.iescrow.com for payment options between buyers and sellers.  It is
> fairly easy to use, adds about 5% to the costs, but you can use your credit
> card.
>
> Cheers,
> Mack
>
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:46:44 EDT
Reply-To:     Darren Frick 
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From:         Darren Frick 
Subject:      Re: FLUFF weekend jokes
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> Happy days is here again;
>
> Things To Say If You Get Caught Sleeping At Your Desk
>
>

You forgot :

"Amen"

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:46:49 EDT
Reply-To:     Darren Frick 
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From:         Darren Frick 
Subject:      Re: DOSSHELL
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> When my desktop hard drive recently crashed, I lost the files I had to
> implement DOSSHELL. I no longer have access to DOS 5.0 diskettes, so...
>
> If anyone has DOSSHELL files they are willing to share, please email me =
off
> the list so I can arrange to get them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan Peres
>
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Check out:

http://www.comports.com/hplx

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:58:31 +0900
Reply-To:     Robert Kawaratani 
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         Robert Kawaratani 
Subject:      Re: HP Jornada 820
Comments: To: Donald Collins 
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At 9:22 AM -0800 11/18/98, Donald Collins wrote:
> Does it have a 10 key style keypad?
>
> Will it fit in your back pocket?  If you don't carry it everywhere you go, it
>just not the same.  It wouldn't matter if it had 7 CPU's and a gigabyte of
>ram, if its not with me when I need it, its useless.
>
> Don.
>
Especially for those of us who actually use calculators frequently, your
first point will continue to be the main point.

Bob

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:01:41 -0000
Reply-To:     PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
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Comments:     Resent-From: PALMTOPS@airgunhq.com
Comments:     Originally-From: jim@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry)
From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: Fido Palmtop echo

Hello Russell,

RY>I was wondering if you may be able to get/find out Some BBS numbers for me
  >in Sydney Australia..
RY>I have not logged on to a BBS in a while and want to for a few
  >reasons..mainly though for older software for my lx.
RY>There used to be a complete Australian listing echoed here.. An email
  >address for a hub/coodinator for/in australia would help a lot if actual
  >numbers arent available..

Australia/New Zealand is Fido zone 3.  I'm sure there are plenty of
systems there.  I'll find the zone 3 segment and send it to you
off-list.  If I forget, don't hesitate to remind me.  In the
meantime you might check out www.fidonet.org but I don't know if they
have a nodelist there.

RY>Where abouts in Phila are you? My wife comes from KoP originally.

southwest of Phila. (Drexel Hill), though I'm very familiar with King
of Prussia.

--
  Jim Henry - Instructor
  USDA Graduate School
    Jim@AirGunHQ.com
    www.airpower.com
Telnet://airpower.dynip.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 * 1st 2.00 #9525 * Glory is fleeting but obscurity is forever.

--
 (Jim Henry)
         AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193
            The Shooter's Online Service - since 1989
      http://www.airpower.com  Telnet://airpower.dynip.com

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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:32:36 -0500
Reply-To:     bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM
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From:         Brian McIlvaine 
Subject:      Re: ???
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On Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:57:36 -0500 Jonathan Gates 
writes:
>Cant find that URL you posted re: A not so likely replacement...
>Please repeat?
>TIA
>JIG
>
>

I must have made an error earlier. The URL is:
www.sensystech.com/palmtop/ultimax2000/ulitmax.html

NOTE BENE!:  ULITMAX.HTML above is not a typo, rather, it IS a typo, but
not on my part. I think I subconciously corrected it when typing it in
here before.

Cutting and pasting above should work!
Brian

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:34:09 -0600
Reply-To:     Phil Drummond 
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I don't speak for anyone but myself but, as I see this it will do
exactly what you have stated.  That would be to prevent unthinking
responders from replying to the group upon the prompting of one member.

The trick here is that the HPLX-L address is right there in the reply
(assuming your emailer places it there :) text, just cut-n-paste it to
the recipient field. :)

Besides if it adversely effects the list, I'm sure Al will make the
appropriate change.

Phil

>Al
>
>What is the thinking behind this change, anybody not realising this, or
>answering a message without thinking will not longer post to the list, thus
>possibly preventing other list users from benefiting from the reply. I
>personally would prefer to see all replies, I would hate to miss out on
>some useful info.
>
>Laurence Harvey
>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:16:11 -0500
Reply-To:     jmartins@HELIX.HGEN.PITT.EDU
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From:         Jeremy Martinson 
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Subject:      www/lx using my Linux box as proxy server
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Hi

Does anyone have any experience getting their HP200LX to connect through a
Linux box to the internet? I have a desktop PC with a direct ethernet
connection on /dev/eth0 and I hook up my HP200LX using the serial cable to
connect to COM1 on /dev/ttyS0. I can get DataComm to log on to the Linux box
just fine as a terminal, but I'm having trouble getting www/lx to use the Linux
box as a proxy host. I can start PPPD OK, and www/lx looks like it establishes
the PPP connection OK, but I can't get an outside connection. Do I need to use
SLIRP as well as PPPD, and if so, how should I configure it?

cheers

Jeremy

Dr Jeremy J. Martinson              * phone (412) 624-5392
University of Pittsburgh            *
Dept Human Genetics                 * fax   (412) 624-3020
Graduate School of Public Health    *
1130 DeSoto St                      * email jmartins@helix.hgen.pitt.edu
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:29:38 -0600
Reply-To:     Phil Drummond 
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I seem to recall something called DBCALC, as I recall it would add
arithmetic operations to the Database application.  I don't know if it
will accept user input or if it's input is all "field" based.

Phil

>   >Is there a calculator out there which you can call from a hotkey to
>   >pop-up on a database page so that I can punch in a little simple
>   >arithmetic while the database screen is still visible?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:39:31 -0500
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Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:25:46 -0500 (EST)

51m33s ago ...
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Phil Drummond wrote:

> The trick here is that the HPLX-L address is right there in the reply
> (assuming your emailer places it there :) text, just cut-n-paste it to
> the recipient field. :)

If you're using Post/LX, it's even easier than that...  To reply to the
sender only, just hit "Reply".  To respond to the whole list, hit "t",
that will send the message to the "To:" address in the header.

(That's what I did for this)  8-)

-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:40:07 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Re: cloning flash cards (was: SIR laser, flash cloning, Fiva,
              north-by-nortwest, etc

I think that another easy way to do this is to treat the card as a true IDE
device. You can get a desktop adapter in which you can put flash cards that,
for all intents and purposes, will look like a regular ol' IDE device. The
system can't tell the difference bet. your flash card and a real hard drive.
Then you can use something like ghost to copy the drive image.

You need a card that will support "true IDE" mode. I know that newer Sandisk
and Simple Tech cards do this but I had a Pretec and IBM card that wouldn't
work.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Dybdahl Ýmailto:JDybdahl@COMPUSERVE.COM¨
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 1998 3:32 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ SIR laser, flash cloning, Fiva,
> north-by-nortwest, etc
>
>
> >    Technical question: Is it possible to make a binary dump of a
> >    flash card (the full 10-220MB) and use this archive to recreate
> >    the filesystem on many other cards of the very same manufactu-
> >    rer and type / serial run? Just like HDDs can be "cloned".
> >    I bet ATA-flash should be OK, as AT interface must hide physical
> >    defects areas from the OS; so every drive appears as same, unlike
> >    MFM/RLL hard files. Would be important to know.
>
> I would think that an absolute disk read (int 25h) and ditto
> write (int
> 26h) would do this on a sector by sector basis. Most C's have these
> functions built into their standard library.
>
>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:04:14 -0500
Reply-To:     hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM
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From:         Hans Peter Staber 
Subject:      Re: palmtop.net is down...
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> David Sargent :
> If anybody has a copy of the super.html file, please let me know!
>

I have one on the Laptop but its one or two months old.

Let me know in case you need it.

HP

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:30:41 PST
Reply-To:     "Richard Ando, Jr." 
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From:         "Richard Ando, Jr." 
Subject:      Refurbished HP 320LX to DOS Palmtop
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I see that HP is selling refurbished 320LX for about $300.

How difficult would it be to take out the WinCE stuff,  put in a low powe=
r 486 with 64MB-128MB RAM and reconnect to the screen, ports, keyboard, =
etc.?  So it would be like a 1000LX Dos palmtop without software or OS. =
 One can then add on DOS/other OS and a Super Carousel

I would love to have a totally re-engineered 200LX but this list has disc=
ussed the limited possibility of this happening.

But what about modifying some of the present WinCE devices for othe CPUs?=
  The ROMs with the integrated software can be developed, later, if there=
 is enough market demand for these devices.  But , from what I see on thi=
s list, I think that there would be a high demand for more powerful DOS =
palmtops.  This would also stimulate more software development.

Is anyone capable of performing this modification?

 I certainly would like have a 486 DOS palmtop. Anyone else?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:42:10 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Re: Refurbished HP 320LX to DOS Palmtop

It's like putting a Chevy engine into a Toyota. Possible? yeah, but you'd
have to totally re-engineer the electronics and car computer from the ground
up to handle the new engine. The parts and labor would probably cost more
than several cars.


If you want a 486 palmtop try one the IBM PC 110's. They can boot and run
right from a flash card and are only a little bit bigger than an LX. I
believe there are other small 486's from Dauphin and another manufacturers.
There was a company selling a VHS cassette sized 486 with CGA and 4MB RAM
and MS Works built in. I forgot what these were called but they ran off of 2
AA batteries and had a 386 or 486 chip.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Ando, Jr. Ýmailto:randojr@PIXI.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 11:31 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Refurbished HP 320LX to DOS Palmtop
>
>
> I see that HP is selling refurbished 320LX for about $300.
>
> How difficult would it be to take out the WinCE stuff,  put
> in a low power 486 with 64MB-128MB RAM and reconnect to the
> screen, ports, keyboard, etc.?  So it would be like a 1000LX
> Dos palmtop without software or OS.  One can then add on
> DOS/other OS and a Super Carousel
>
> I would love to have a totally re-engineered 200LX but this
> list has discussed the limited possibility of this happening.
>
> But what about modifying some of the present WinCE devices
> for othe CPUs?  The ROMs with the integrated software can be
> developed, later, if there is enough market demand for these
> devices.  But , from what I see on this list, I think that
> there would be a high demand for more powerful DOS palmtops.
> This would also stimulate more software development.
>
> Is anyone capable of performing this modification?
>
>  I certainly would like have a 486 DOS palmtop. Anyone else?
>
>         Richard

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:45:19 -0500
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      WinCE, compass, scanning for LxMap, calling 1-2-3.

        Hello all,

    I pay some attention to WinCE, mainly to see how their hardware
    develops. But recent news are bad. Seems like they all think the
    bigger the better recently. Like "IBM markets largest WinCE unit
    ever known to man" or "Jupiter size new units hit the shelves".
    That's nonsense, one could make an Eniac sized WinCE machine,
    but for what end? Hope they fall flat on their faces when A/5
    real PCs show their superiorty in use.

    Hardware is getting better and add-ons appear, like Adaptec1460
    SCSI now having CE driver too. And 160MB CF-flash card for 1Q99!
    I bet it worth looking at  for ideas and
    motivation even for diehard HPLX fans.

    I'm glad the compass-clock idea was well received and more ideas
    added, like shadow direction prediction.
    Now, I wonder if using such a complex piece of hardware, like the
    200LX; determining the unit's orientation relative to the Earth's
    magnetosphere by closely monitoring the signals of normal opera-
    tion is possible? There must be some change with motion/turn, to
    be sensed by the HPLX itself w/o any specialty hw. This is one
    task for a good RTOS.
    As clockarms method shows spin-axle north and this method shows
    magnetic-north, both should be available on LX. Very useful if you
    want to build a pyramid using only handheld devices, like hammer,
    edge, scourge and palmtop.

    For LxMap questions surfaced recently, I'd like to ask a scanning
    related question. Usually pictures for on-screen display (eg. WWW)
    are best scanned at 72/75 dpi, a usual S/VGA CRT resolution. But
    as the HPLX has a 4,1" 640x200 FSTN LCD, math reveals its 164 dpi
    resolution. So I bet map scans should be done at either 150dpi or
    200dpi (fine fax) settings, to get most info onto 200LX screen at
    reasonably small file sizes. So what's a good config?

    My query about binary dump/copy of full flash cards was originated
    by an idea for Un*x on the palmtop. As all LX created equal, the
    tedious installs should be done on the 3/5 most popular brand/size
    of PCMCIA flash cards by one/few "experts". Then lucky others
    could just download an .ARJ of the dump from the web and copy it
    over to flashcard, sparing install efforts. Plug & Play.

    I know, the ROM Lotus 1-2-3 can call the built-in HP19 calc. to
    do backsolve. But can a non-ROM 3rd party program call 123 in ROM
    to do anything as an external program? Some very basic database/
    sorting skills of Lotus may come handy for efficent solutions and
    also serve as good prog. example of using building blocks, not
    everything built from ground.

                    Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:45:47 +1100
Reply-To:     Russell Hemery 
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Subject:      Bypassing windows printing from LX
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Hi All

I seem to recall someone had a prog they wrote/had that printed from the LX
via a PC to a connected printer..  This was a DOS prog and they requested
any info to bypass windows (direct to printer).  I found a program that
claims to bypass windows and was wondering if anyone on the list recalls
details of the original request.

Russell

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:51:00 -0500
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How do you determine POP address? Is calling the ISP the only way? I am
about 80% of the way there, I think. Looking forward to getting GP to
work!

Brian
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:48:48 -0500
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Does anyone know the modem code to delay the time from when the modem
picks up the hook until it looks for the dial tone? My work line has an
automated voice mail (I HATE THESE, by the way) and it beeps the dial
tone when you pick up to let you know you have voice mail waiting. I'd
like to delay the "look" for the dial tone and thereby forego the "No
dialtone received" messages.

Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:56:22 -0800
Reply-To:     Bill Childers 
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From:         Bill Childers 
Subject:      Re: Modem code
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Try using the Dial String ATX3DT

The X3 tells the modem to ignore dial tone.  I use this when I manually
dial with my acoustic coupler.

Bill


On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Brian McIlvaine wrote:

> Does anyone know the modem code to delay the time from when the modem
> picks up the hook until it looks for the dial tone? My work line has an
> automated voice mail (I HATE THESE, by the way) and it beeps the dial
> tone when you pick up to let you know you have voice mail waiting. I'd
> like to delay the "look" for the dial tone and thereby forego the "No
> dialtone received" messages.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:26:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Ron Tatham 
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a friend gave me a Megahertz 14.4 pocket data/fax modem to use as backup.
When I use DataComm,  I type
AT&F
the modem responds OK
then I type ATDT 7733 (my fax extension as a test)
the modem dials and I get my fax machine.

In WWWLX, I use setup and set
Moden Type: External
Modem: checked
Baud rate: 19200
Modem Init:  AT&F
dial: ATDT7733

I get the message
***modem not ready****

after several I attempts, I have not found a solution.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:27:11 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
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Hi Russell & All:

03h35m24s ago ...
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Russell Hemery wrote:


> I seem to recall someone had a prog they wrote/had that printed from =
the LX
> via a PC to a connected printer...

From SUPER:

> Name: omniprn.zip
> Title: OMNIPRN
>
> Version: 1.0
>
> Date: 06/14/98
>
> Note: OMNIPRN is a program that allows you to print from your
> COM port connected palmtop directly to whatever printer
> you have hooked to the host machine. Does away with the
> need for special cables and converters. Freeware.

Is this what your referring to?

Cheers,

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*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:33:50 -0600
Reply-To:     Steve Dowell 
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From:         Steve Dowell 
Subject:      EXP Modem Card...

I bought my first 200LX a couple of months ago and it came with an EXP
modem card with 2Meg of memory. The only thing I had on the card was a
couple of etext books. But last night I went to read one of the etext's,
and everything on that drive (G:\) was gone!

Not only that, but I could not copy any files to the G: drive, or create
folders. I went into Setup and it says that the Card Battery is OK. So
now I'm baffled about what might have happened.

Can these cards just "go bad" like that?? Does anyone have any
suggestions?

TIA,
Steve

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:04:03 -0600
Reply-To:     Ted Heise 
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From:         Ted Heise 
Subject:      Finding POP3 server
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Brian McIlvaine wrote:

>
> How do you determine POP address? Is calling the ISP the only way? I am
> about 80% of the way there, I think. Looking forward to getting GP to
> work!

One other thing you might try is looking through your
ISP's website.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:59:17 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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Subject:      SUPER alternate site
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While palmtop.net is down, I have obtained a copy of the super and
supernew pages and posted them on my site.  The file access will work
quite well (although I got a "too many users on FTP server" error the
first couple of times I tried).  Go to:

http://www.hplx.net/super.html

For the SUPER page and

http://www.hplx.net/supernew.html

For the SUPER new additions.  These pages were up-to-date as of Friday,
November 23.

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:43:39 -0600
Reply-To:     Phil Drummond 
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From:         Phil Drummond 
Subject:      Re: EXP Modem Card...
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The EXP modem/flash card uses a driver for flash access.  It's possible
that driver has been removed from your start-up files (autoexec.bat or
config.sys) and needs to be put back.  Try opening drive A: and if that
works, look for the file LXMDRV.SYS, this is the driver for the flash
part of the card.  Also, the card should be drive F: not G: (unless you
have some sort of thing happening to define other drives than what are
done with the EXP driver.  In my LX the config.sys line reads:

divice=c:\tflxm\lxmdrv.sys

Good luck!

Phil

>
>
>But last night I went to read one of the etext's,
>and everything on that drive (G:\) was gone!
>
>Not only that, but I could not copy any files to the G: drive, or create
>folders. I went into Setup and it says that the Card Battery is OK. So
>now I'm baffled about what might have happened.
>

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:59:35 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio=20Cust=F3dio?=
              
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Thanks to all of you that helped.

I used cyanocrylat glue (sorry that the spelling is probably wrong)
bought in a plane models shop, and the crack was fixed. I have a small
scar on the top of the LX, but it doesn't matter.

I also put some oil in the right hinge, to make less pressure
on the lid.

Paulo

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:09:10 -0800
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Subject:      Contest winners
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I forgot to mention that the October 1998 contest is finally over, and
I'll be posting the survey results up soon.

Thanks, also, to Bill Childers for keeping those copies of the SUPER site,
and Mitch Hamm for preparing them for me.  

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:19:49 -0500
Reply-To:     Peniel Romanelli 
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Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:03:50 -0500 (EST)

01h27m37s ago ...
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Steve Dowell wrote:

> But last night I went to read one of the etext's,
> and everything on that drive (G:\) was gone!
>
> Not only that, but I could not copy any files to the G: drive, or =
create
> folders. I went into Setup and it says that the Card Battery is OK.

Hi-

I've used the EXP Modem+4MB card.  If your card drive (G:) is gone,
maybe the driver is corrupted.  Is card drive A: still recognized?  If
so try copying the driver from there to C: and reboot.  AFAIK the
"Card Battery" message is meaningless for flash cards or combo cards
(no battery).

HTH

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:22:40 +1100
Reply-To:     Russell Hemery 
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At 03:27 PM 23/11/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Russell & All:
>
>03h35m24s ago ...
>On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Russell Hemery wrote:
>
>
>> I seem to recall someone had a prog they wrote/had that printed from the LX
>> via a PC to a connected printer...
>
>>From SUPER:
>
>> Name: omniprn.zip
>> Title: OMNIPRN
>>
>> Version: 1.0
>>
>> Date: 06/14/98
>>
>> Note: OMNIPRN is a program that allows you to print from your
>> COM port connected palmtop directly to whatever printer
>> you have hooked to the host machine. Does away with the
>> need for special cables and converters. Freeware.
>
>Is this what your referring to?
>
>Cheers,
>
>*Al Kind, Tech Lab Manager            _   __   _        __
>*Microchemistry Lab U-193   ___ _    (_) / /__(_)__ ___/ /
>*3113 Horsebarn Rd         / _ `/   / / /  '_/ / _ Y _  /
>*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA  \_,_(_)_/ (_)_/\_Y_/_//_|_,_/
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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:22:42 +1100
Reply-To:     Russell Hemery 
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From:         Russell Hemery 
Subject:      Re: Bypassing windows printing from LX
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>> I seem to recall someone had a prog they wrote/had that printed from the LX
>> via a PC to a connected printer...
>
>>From SUPER:
>
>> Name: omniprn.zip
>> Title: OMNIPRN>
>Is this what your referring to?


Hi Al & list

Wow!!!  That was a fast response thanks Al. Yes this is the program...Does
anyone have contact info on the author of Omniprn?  "JV" is the only
reference in the docs that I can see.

Omniprn is DOS based and the author wanted to know a way to bypass windows
print handling before any possibility of a windows based prog. I found a
possible solution on a CD I have..

It may end up allowing printing from the LX via a windows based pc if I can
get this to the author of omniprn...very handy if any of us need docs
printed from our lx on site somewhere.

Regards
Russell

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:34:42 +1100
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Comments: To: peniel@WEB2000.NET
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> > HPLX-L address: just cut-n-paste it to the recipient field. :)
>
> Post/LX: sender only, "Reply".  whole list, "t",

In elm, it's (r)eply and (g)roup, respectively.

Some systems use a r and R (not sure which way round).


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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:02:18 GMT
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Subject:      FLUFF FreeCell game 45686
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I found the HPLX FreeCell game number 45686 more difficult than average.
Cheers... Russ

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:09:40 -0500
Reply-To:     Al Kind 
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Hi All:

     It was just pointed out to me by a subscriber that the TOPICS
filters are only active with the MAIL option, INDEX & DIGEST
subscribers will receive all posts to the LIST...I don't think I can
change this, but I will check.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:19:30 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-23 17:02:28 EST, you write:

<< While palmtop.net is down, I have obtained a copy of the super and
 supernew pages and posted them on my site. >>

David,

Thanks for yet another service to the list.

Lynn

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:46:04 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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From:         David Sargeant 
Subject:      Multi-partition flashcards...
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Well, I attempted to partition a flashcard into two separate drives, and
though it worked from a Windows 98 DOS box, the 200LX would not recognize
the partitions.  One thing I noticed was that FDISK100 showed both
partitions as being "inactive," whereas a partition it created was
"active."  I know this ordinarily would only lead to a booting error, but
perhaps the palmtop requires that the first partition be active?  FDISK
can't set it active, but maybe some other utility can do it...

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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Re: Backup strategies for upgraded 200LX

In message  <017101be15d6$f8e38ec0$0500a8c0@pii400>, mackb@GTE.NET said:
>
> You also might want to make sure that you make the backup file an .exe so
> that you don't need to download pkunzip as well.

Yanno, I thought about that.  But I don't use PKWare since I've
never licensed it, and I haven't figured out how to do it (or if
it's even possible) with the freeware zip from SUPER that I use.

Ted

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:28:54 -0600
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I would like to experiment with DOSSHELL as a first step to see if
task-switching is a valuable function for me. If yes, I will look at
getting a new HP  and Software Carousel. I currently run a 1 Meg 100LX, and
understand that I am starting off with this endeavor underpowered.

I was able to get the various files necessary for DOSSHELL, and loaded on
my HP. I installed them according to a Nov/Dec 1995 article in Palmtop Paper.

Unforetunately, I cannot tell if I did everything (or anything) correctly,
as I cannot figure out how to make DOSSHELL work!

If anyone can provide some detailed guidance, I would appreciate having it
posted to the list, or emailed to me.

If anyone remembers information on a Web Site, or a thread on this list
that I could search for, please let me know where or when.

Thanks in advance.

Alan

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Brendan Macmillan  writes:
> > > HPLX-L address: just cut-n-paste it to the recipient field. :)
> >
> > Post/LX: sender only, "Reply".  whole list, "t",
>
> In elm, it's (r)eply and (g)roup, respectively.
>
> Some systems use a r and R (not sure which way round).

Emacs VM & RMAIL use r for reply to sender, and R for reply to
everyone.

Also, f (follouw-up) for reply to sender and quote message, and F for
reply to everyone and quote message.

ÝI still need add this functionality to PNR ...¨

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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: Multi-partition flashcards...
Comments: To: David Sargeant 
In-Reply-To:  David Sargeant's message of "Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:46:04 -0800"
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David Sargeant  writes:
> Well, I attempted to partition a flashcard into two separate drives, and
> though it worked from a Windows 98 DOS box, the 200LX would not recognize
> the partitions.  One thing I noticed was that FDISK100 showed both
> partitions as being "inactive," whereas a partition it created was
> "active."  I know this ordinarily would only lead to a booting error, but
> perhaps the palmtop requires that the first partition be active?  FDISK
> can't set it active, but maybe some other utility can do it...

Has anyone tried using the Linux partition utilities ... ?

Once I get my new PC Card reader (has that arrived yet, David?) I will
be in a position to start experimenting too :-)

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:04:17 -0500
Reply-To:     Peniel Romanelli 
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Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:52:23 -0500 (EST)

01h01m50s ago ...
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Theodore Heise wrote:

> > You also might want to make sure that you make the backup file an =
.exe
>
> .... I haven't figured out how to do it (or if
> it's even possible) with the freeware zip from SUPER that I use.

You can do it with LHA (available on SimTel sites.  I think the latest
version is 2.55   It's slower than ZIP, but gives good compression.

HTH

-Peniel
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>
> Has anyone tried using the Linux partition utilities ... ?
>

How about Stacker?

I seem to remember a letter to the palmtop paper describing how to make
a stackvol file on a desktop and then transfer it to the card, maybe you
could
have two stackvol files?

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:02:15 -0800
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, David Lawrence wrote:

> How about Stacker?
> I seem to remember a letter to the palmtop paper describing how to
> make a stackvol file on a desktop and then transfer it to the card,
> maybe you could have two stackvol files?

That would probably work, but what I'm trying to do is see if the palmtop
will recognize a second partition on the flash card as drive B, like the
Developer's Guide suggests.  I don't know if you could configure that with
Stacker... but I would assume so.  Perhaps somebody with more Stacker
experience can comment.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:58:04 -0800
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Hi all, I have a 2MB HP 200LX for auction on eBay if anyone is
interested, you can find it at the following url...

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=44403956

It's in great shape and includes lots of extras, check it out if you are
in the market for one.

Thanks!

Brian S
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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:20:20 +0000
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Did anybody of the COMDEX visitors take a look at the new
440MB SanDisk flash card? Did it work in the palmtop?

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:03:02 -0500
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A new BIOS, a new hard disk and a new operating system are now installed
and palmtop.net is alive again. I still have some things to fix so be
prepared for weirdness, but most things should be as normal. Thanks to
David for getting up the alternative pages while my server bled. :)

Mitch
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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Visual Basic to run on my palmtop.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:45:20 +0000
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My lurking tells me that many of us are using older Megahertz PC card modems
and need documentation. The file RCK-V32.txt, dated 28 Oct 96, about 94k in
size, is available from the Megahertz www site:
www.mhz.com/client/mcd/support/index.html.

This documentation is the AT commands  for 17 modems using the Rockwell V.32
chip, which includes the following models: XJ and CC - 1144, 2144, 3144,
4144 and several others. I printed it out, editing out the commands for
cellular use, and got it down to 32 pages.

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Subject:      Seeking recommendations on cellular modems

Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution that works in the
200LX?

I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac phone with a
PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?



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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:12:56 -0600
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Norman Wolfe wrote:

>
> The file RCK-V32.txt, dated 28 Oct 96, about 94k in
> size, is available from the Megahertz www site:
> www.mhz.com/client/mcd/support/index.html.
>
> This documentation is the AT commands

Excellent tip!  I've got *two* printed manuals, but have
wanted a reference for the AT commands to carry with me
in my 200LX.  Thanks!

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Hi There!

I have not heard about anyone using EXMBATCH by Rod Whitby. I have used
it for long time and feel that I should share how I use it so more of
you people can find this great software useful.

Since I use MoreEXM and SMMX, I have plenty of menus with lots of
programs installed. But there will always be some DOS & PAL programs
which I use more often than others- WordPerfect and POST/LX for example.
So instead of going though my menus and run the specific icon when I want
to start such a program- which you normally have to do when you start a
PAL/DOS program from within the SysMgr, I use EXMBATCH!

With EXMBATCH I can assign a hotkey- such as CTRL+E (which I use for
Post/LX) and run the program directly as it was an EXM program. How it
works, please check out the documentation which comes with EXMBATCH. But
one thing I would like to add is how I get the memory I require- I have
MaxDOS installed, so I use it in the command line I put in EXMBATCH-

"c:\bin\maxdos -dc:\www c:\www\post.bat"

and that way I can now assign a hotkey to any PAL/DOS program I want to
run. Not bad to be able to start WordPerfect 5.1+ from the SysMgr with a
CTRL+W!

EXMBATCH, is a great program- check it out on SUPER.

Regards,

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:49:14 -0600
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Thanks Phil... Your suggestion led me to the problem. My card
is now working, and I am a happy camper!
Thanks again,
Steve


Date:    Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:43:39 -0600
From:    Phil Drummond 
Subject: Re: EXP Modem Card...

The EXP modem/flash card uses a driver for flash access.  It's possible
that driver has been removed from your start-up files (autoexec.bat or
config.sys) and needs to be put back.  Try opening drive A: and if that
works, look for the file LXMDRV.SYS, this is the driver for the flash
part of the card.  Also, the card should be drive F: not G: (unless you
have some sort of thing happening to define other drives than what are
done with the EXP driver.  In my LX the config.sys line reads:

divice=c:\tflxm\lxmdrv.sys

Good luck!

Phil

>
>
>But last night I went to read one of the etext's,
>and everything on that drive (G:\) was gone!
>
>Not only that, but I could not copy any files to the G: drive, or
create
>folders. I went into Setup and it says that the Card Battery is OK. So
>now I'm baffled about what might have happened.
>

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Yeah! Katana has the answer

I can see how this can be done.
Two (or more) big drive files (drives)
With a BATch file to manipulate the file name
STACKER.VOL so STACKER.COM will know which
file (drive) to open.

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I think the same can be accomplished with JAM.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 9:12 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Multi stacker drive files
>
>
> Yeah! Katana has the answer
>
> I can see how this can be done.
> Two (or more) big drive files (drives)
> With a BATch file to manipulate the file name
> STACKER.VOL so STACKER.COM will know which
> file (drive) to open.
>
> yor pal al...............
>
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I am interested in the same problem with the twist that i am using pac
bell digitial and the star tac 7000

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> From:         Ed PadinÝSMTP:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
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> Sent:         Tuesday, November 24, 1998 5:00 AM
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> Subject:      Seeking recommendations on cellular modems
>
> Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution that works in
> the
> 200LX?
>
> I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac phone with
> a
> PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?
>
>
>
> TIA
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Hello List,

Would it be possible to run Stacker in one session and
not run it in another session under Software
Carousel?  Some questions have come up recently about
having a pcmcia card formatted into multiple
partitions, and it seems that this might be a way to
do it.  Seems like you could stack part of the card,
and for the sessions you want to access the stacked
part, have Stacker loaded, and not loaded for the
sessions in which you wanted to access the unstacked
part of the card.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions about how
to accomplish this or has someone already "invented
the wheel"?


tia, and have a great holiday
{and Hook 'em Horns Friday!}


Claud

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alt-f3 is reply to ALL

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:19:16 -0800
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

> Did anybody of the COMDEX visitors take a look at the new
> 440MB SanDisk flash card? Did it work in the palmtop?

They didn't appear to have a working model of it yet-- it won't ship until
January.  They had plenty of empty shells that said "440MB" on
display, though.  

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:19:02 -0500
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I remember reading in the help file for DOS 6.x INTERLNK/INTERSVR that
Interlink will also allow you to "print through" a server PC (though I
never tried it).

Is Interlink also tripped up by Windows?

B.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:31:34 -0600
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Is there a version of SLIRP, or any other program that does the same
thing, for DOS or (sorry) Windows?

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:32:40 -0800
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> Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution that works in the
> 200LX?

The Simple Tech 33.6 works well, I use it with an Ericsson DH388.

> I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac phone with a
> PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?

Haven't tried it with that phone, but they have cables for many
phones.  I bought mine at CDW.  Of course, the cables are not linked
to from the modem page...  I believe I did a search on "cellular cable"
to find them.  Modem was about $118, cable was about $89! (it's actually
a cable and flash upgrade)

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:38:13 -0800
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> cellular use, and got it down to 32 pages.

Have a look at http://www.bluesquirrel.com/ for a real cool Windows
app called "Click Book".  You can print it to a 32-page folded
booklet using only 8 pages of paper!  I use it to print documentation
all the time.  It also prints a large number of other formats, plus
ones you can define (I use it for the Goin' Postal manual).

I really can't recommend Click Book highly enough, it's just that
handy.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:47:34 -0800
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I saw a copy of it for an early version of windows at the local
cyperexchange 122d & NE Glisan in Portland, Or.

On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, aguze118 wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Visual Basic to run on my palmtop.
> TIA
> Tony Guzewicz
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Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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There was a Visual Basic for DOS, which I believe Microsoft axed after
version 1.  I don't recall if it ran on XT-class machines.  I have a copy
buried somewhere amongst my thousands of 5.25 inch floppies in storage ...

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Subject: Visual Basic


Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Visual Basic to run on my
palmtop.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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ed;
Do you know which one is better;
has the smaller foot print, faster, safer, etc.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:19:34 -0500
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I've heard that Stacker provides better compression but Jam needs less
memory and doesn't require the use of the whole disk. I used Jam for a while
and thought it was pretty good. The best to use  it was to use the disk and
periodically compress it with a manual compress utility that was included.

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> From: al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@HOTMAIL.COM¨
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 12:12 PM
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> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Multi stacker drive files
>
>
> ed;
> Do you know which one is better;
> has the smaller foot print, faster, safer, etc.
>
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Reply-To:     "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Subject:      Drivers sites?

Hi All,

I remember someone posting a list of two or three Internet sites that were
like "drivers central" i.e. central (searchable) repositories for device
drivers ÝDOS, HP, etc. (Windows too)¨.  Anyone have that, or the like?  I'd
like to find drivers for ALL sorts of things, both for my palmtop and my
desktop; so I have to keep the "want list" generic .... Ýpart of my goal is
to be able to buy PC cards, etc. that I can use w/ my palmtop and desktops,
but I have to admit needing lots of Win95 drivers for work...¨.

TIA

--tim


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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:08:06 -0500
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23h15m19s ago ...
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:56:22 -0800 (PST),  wrote:

> Try using the Dial String ATX3DT

While that may work, it will also blindly dial when a voice call is in
progress, no dial tone (ever try without plugging in the cable? :), etc..

ATS6=5 works for me, S6=x, x being the time in seconds that the modem will
wait for a dial tone.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:24:38 +0100
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I read once in a doc that MS MAIL for DOS runs quite well on a HP200Lx. Has
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Not quite true.
There are several differences in the apps, but mostly minor ones.
For example, the 200 "wakes up" to a new date by starting the appointment
app and reminding you of your schedule, etc etc etc.

> The software applications
> are exactly the same, except that the 200LX includes Pocket Quicken
> and LapLink Remote Access.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:42:23 -0700
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I purchased a NECX PCMCIA reader and tried to install it in my desktop.  =
My desktop computer has a couple IDE hard disk controllers on the =
motherboard that use special drivers designed by intel.  When I install =
the NECX PCMCIA reader Windows 95 detects the new hardware and tries to =
install the standard IDE Hard Disk controller drivers. It also installs =
the standard set of PCMCIA card drivers.  When I insert a PCMCIA memory =
card into the slot I get a beep from the PCMCIA drivers telling me the =
card was inserted but I can't see anything different on the screen.  Not =
knowing how the computer should react I'm asking for a little help from =
those of you that have the card reader working.

1) Is there a way to disable the IDE hard drive controller on the NECX =
PCMCIA card reader and still read PCMCIA cards.  I ask this because it =
seems to be interfering with my existing hard drive controller.

2) What should I see on the screen after I insert a memory card from my =
LX?  Should I see another drive under My Computer?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:52:49 -0500
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OK, I was toying with the idea of trying to get my synchronizing software
to work. The problem can be demonstrated by the following:

1. Download and compile the adbdump and adbload programs written by
Andreas Garzotto available on SUPER.

2. Go to appointment manager and make a NEW appointment file TEST.ADB.
Put one appointment in, for example, titled ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT,
fill in the other fields, and save the appointment. EXIT appointment
manager, which then saves the complete data file in a fully readable
condition.

3. run ADBDUMP -c -q2 TEST.ADB DUMP.txt. This will work, and generate
quite a nice txt file, with your ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT listed
correctly. So far, so good.

4. run ADBLOAD -q2 DUMP.txt TESTOUT.adb. This will generate an ADB file.
Again, so far, so good.

5. Go into Appointment Manager, and try to load the TESTOUT.adb file. You
will get a "RECORD NOT FOUND" dialog, and your ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT
will not have transferred - IF YOU HAVE A 200LX. It will work with the
100LX.

Here's the deal - If someone can tell me how to correct ADBLOAD to get
the 200 to recognize the file, I will promise (in a Clinton promise kind
of way) to make a program that will take data from Outlook and import
into the appointment file, eliminated dupes, and do the other cool stuff
we need it to do.

Any takers?

Brian
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Has anyone on this list been able to use the Nokia 6160 and the 200LX with
modem?
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

TIA

Karl

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:30:49 -0500
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The program to record and playback IR codes from a TV remote via the
100/200Lx does not work on the double speed machines because the
program seems to use software timing loops and not hardware timing.

I mean, that the program is counting CPU cycles in order to mark time.
  And this was calabrated at normal speed.  With the CPU going twice
as fast in the upgraded usints, the critical timing of these program
is thrown off.

There is nothing that can be done about this short of re-writing the
programs.   :-(


Stan

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:34:14 +0000
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I just thought I'd share my experience...............

I used to use Symantec's Timeline 5 for DOS on the HP200LX, a great but
"heavy" (powerful) programme. Due to difficulties in using the
downloadable conversion utility available on Microsoft's web site to
convert the files into a format readable by my office - based Microsoft
Prject, I got hold of a copy of Microsoft project V4 for DOS. It too
runs well on the 200LX. It has a lighter feel to it but what I don't
like is the limited note entry capacity compared to Timeline. You can
get about 3 lines in and editing is quirky whereas in Timeline you can
open a whole notepad. Also, in Timeline, you can move tasks around with
the shift/arrow key combination and you can indent and outdent and
create summary tasks which you can't in MS Project.

So I've gone back to Timeline but I wish I could figure out how to make
that darned conversion utility work OK!

Bottom line - MS Project is much easier to use and learn but Timeline
has a broader capability.

Regards to all...................

Dr Peter Maddern
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North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:41:34 -0800
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I think you can disable the double speed crystal?

At 17:30 11/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>The program to record and playback IR codes from a TV remote via the
>100/200Lx does not work on the double speed machines because the
>program seems to use software timing loops and not hardware timing.
>
>I mean, that the program is counting CPU cycles in order to mark time.
>  And this was calabrated at normal speed.  With the CPU going twice
>as fast in the upgraded usints, the critical timing of these program
>is thrown off.
>
>There is nothing that can be done about this short of re-writing the
>programs.   :-(
>
>
>Stan
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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:50:24 -0800
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On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I think you can disable the double speed crystal?

With the new version of the driver, you can disable the driver itself, but
I don't think that would fix the remote control program's trouble.
There's also a "slowdown" feature that will return your unit to
approximately normal speed, but I believe it only eats up extra CPU cycles
(correct me if I'm wrong, Mack) and implements a "software slowdown," so
to speak.  So it might not fix the problem either.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:51:00 -0600
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Subject:      TRADE  NEC 750C
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Hi,

I have a two week old NEC 750c that is about two weeks old.  Really =
would like to trade for a 200lx with some extras (like memory...etc).  =
All orginal manuals and cables..even the orginal box.

Pete

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Hi,


 


I have a two week old NEC 750c that =
is about two=20
weeks old.  Really would like to trade for a 200lx with some extras =
(like=20
memory...etc).  All orginal manuals and cables..even the orginal=20
box.


 


Pete


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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:08:27 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" 
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.

> I purchased a NECX PCMCIA reader and tried to install it in my
> desktop.  My desktop computer has a couple IDE hard disk
> controllers on the motherboard that use special drivers designed
> by intel.  Wh
> 1) Is there a way to disable the IDE hard drive controller on the
> NECX PCMCIA card reader and still read PCMCIA cards.  I ask this
> because it seems to be interfering with my existing hard drive
> cont
> 2) What should I see on the screen after I insert a memory card
> from my LX?  Should I see another drive under My Computer?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.

There is NO IDE controller on these pcmcia adaptors, that connector
is for an external slot that mounts in a drive bay.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:16:56 +1100
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At 06:25 AM 24/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
>I am interested in the same problem with the twist that i am using pac
>bell digitial and the star tac 7000
>
>> ----------
>> From:         Ed PadinÝSMTP:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
>> Reply To:     Ed Padin
>> Sent:         Tuesday, November 24, 1998 5:00 AM
>> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>> Subject:      Seeking recommendations on cellular modems
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution that works in
>> the
>> 200LX?
>>
>> I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac phone with
>> a
>> PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?


Are these Analogue phones?

If so I do have the solution..  It involves a "black box" and normal modem

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:16:55 +0100
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Alan Peres wrote:

> If anyone can provide some detailed guidance, I would appreciate having it
> posted to the list, or emailed to me.
>
> If anyone remembers information on a Web Site, or a thread on this list
> that I could search for, please let me know where or when.

Walter Francis has a DOSShell installation guide on his home page:

http://sac.uky.edu/~wally/dosshell.html


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:23:43 +0800
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I asked the other day how I may download the
pictures from my Canon Powershot 350 to
my HP200LX.

Well my 20Mb Sandisk flash card arrived on
monday so I plugged in the card to the PCMIA
adapter popped it all in to the HP200 and voila
instant A drive (why isn't windows technology
this easy - having just loaded twain drivers into
NT)

Umm I thought what If  I take the 2mb compact
flash out of the camera and pop it into the HP
with the adapter.  BINGO  the HP recognises
the card and shows .jpg files!

So it would appear that I have an alternative
method to download file from the HP to another
computer (with the tranfile program) I have yet
to test this but it looks promising.....will keep
you posted.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:56:19 -0500
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Three questions for anyone on the list:

1. I have been unable to print from my 200LX to my parallel injet
printer with the connectivity cable and a general purpose serial to
parallel converter.  Is the serial to parallel converter from the
connectivity pack required?  HP customer support does not know the
answer to this.  Apparently, the only way to get their converter is to
buy the connectivity pack ($$$$$).

2. Is there any way to view PDF files on the 200LX?  Can they be
converted to HTML and then viewed with HV?

3. Can a Sparcom Drive95 be used with a 200LX?  I haven't been able to
get it configured.

Please respond directly, as I don't always have time to check the
entire digest.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:00:55 -0500
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Al wrote:
>Semper Fideles meant ALWAYS FAITHFUL to the Roamins.
>To the Marines, it meant, "Screw you buddy, I got mine."
Well, only if you were UNmotivated. "Semper Fi, Mac" was an expression used
quite a bit in WWII that meant that: "Screw you buddy, I got mine." In the
80's and 90's I believe it has returned to it correct (and positive use)
Which makes me wonder how old you are Al...
The Navy often uses 'Semper Gumby' to mean 'always flexible' Usually make
Marines upset...

Best Regards.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:41:56 +1300
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> 1. I have been unable to print from my 200LX to my parallel injet
> printer with the connectivity cable and a general purpose serial to
> parallel converter.  Is the serial to parallel converter from the
> connectivity pack required?  HP customer support does not know the
> answer to this.  Apparently, the only way to get their converter is to
> buy the connectivity pack ($$$$$).

Some inkjets are brain-dead, they have only a head & paper transport
mechanism, and all the brains are in the (windoze) software. You should
be able to print to any printer that can emulate a fx80 or HP laser from
dos, but most of the newer printers can't, needing billy gee's os to do
any kind of printing...

I hope this (negative) info helps...

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:27:59 -0500
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Aaron Billin wrote:
>
> Three questions for anyone on the list:
>
> 
>
> 2. Is there any way to view PDF files on the 200LX?  Can they be
> converted to HTML and then viewed with HV?
>
In general PDF files potentially have a very complex structure which
can be rendered by various Adobe products into PostScript.

PostScript is potentially equally complex, and complex to render.
Various products, including the `free' GhostScript allow this to
be viewed. It is also sometimes quite possible to extract the `ASCII'
from a PS file, although in such cases most of the formatting
information will be lost.

I guess I find it unlikely that `viewing' a PDF on the HP200Lx would
be a very satisfactory experience, even with software that is as good
as HV.
>
> 
>
> Please respond directly, as I don't always have time to check the
> entire digest.
>
No, if you expect us to take our time to respond, you can spend yours
reading the digest.
>
> Aaron Billin
>

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:46:15 -0500
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I have a HP200LX 1MB that has had the doublespeed and the 8MB upgrade.

The first time I used Remote Commander before I had my palmtop upgraded
I found that the IR of the Palmtop was not strong enough to work my
components unless I was closer to them.

I recently rearranged my room so that my components are closer to where
I sit so I decided to try the program again.

It works with three out my four components fine

Pioneer Amplifier - works
Panasonic VCR - works
Magnavox TV - works
RCA VCR - doesn't work (not even right in front of receiver)

I am using the program Remote Commander.
I don't know if this is the same program you are talking about.
It works fine for me.

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Date:         Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:38:03 -0800
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Hi all,

There is another source for e-texts at www.macduff.net
They seem to have some newer stuff along with a short stories sub-group
and others, I didn't look at all the sections. The zip I checked out
had pdf and doc formats, worked with VR. They also sell e-books, it
seems. Might be worth a look.

regards,

Paul
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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:45:23 -0500
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>2) What should I see on the screen after I insert a memory card from my =
=3D
>LX?  Should I see another drive under My Computer?

You can buy flash cards which give you another drive, namely drive A:
I have a 10Mb SAN Disk but today you can get much larger cards.
Watch out as some cards use compression: what they call a, say, 40Mb
card is a 20Mb card with compression software.

There are also RAM cards. I would think they expand the size of the C:
drive.

Jorgen

  =

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:29:27 +0800
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> The program to record and playback IR codes from a TV remote via the
> 100/200Lx does not work on the double speed machines because the
> program seems to use software timing loops and not hardware timing.
>

Which program are we talking about? I tried Remote Commander on my
double speed 200LX and it works without problems. So How come it works
on my machines....

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:31:39 +0100
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I tried the same in a win95 Dos box, after making the
SanDisk card non-removable and checking the Int13 box
in Device Manager-View devices by connection. To my
(unpleasant) surprise it worked, but fdisk couldn't see
more than 16MB on my 40 MB card.

Actually my point is, I only could recover the whole
capacity of the card by re-formatting it in a Canon
Powershot A5 camera. About 2 sec, no questions asked.
This might help those with a messed up CF card.

Regards,
Nick


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From: David Sargeant 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: 24/11/1998 3:06
Subject: Multi-partition flashcards...


>Well, I attempted to partition a flashcard into two
separate drives, and
>though it worked from a Windows 98 DOS box, the 200LX
would not recognize
>the partitions

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:20:00 -0600
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6160 is a digital phone. It has analog capability, but if
you signed up for AT&T One-Rate plan, the phone's software
will not allow you to choose analog mode.  Consequently, no
analog modem will work with the phone even if you could find
a cable to connect.  I have not been able to find a digital
modem for the phone & the power drain would probably be too
high for 200LX anyway.

Jeff MacDowell.......jmacd@usa.net

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Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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>
> At 06:25 AM 24/11/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >I am interested in the same problem with the twist that i am
> using pac
> >bell digitial and the star tac 7000
> >
> >> ----------
> >> From:         Ed PadinÝSMTP:epadin@WAGWEB.COM¨
> >> Reply To:     Ed Padin
> >> Sent:         Tuesday, November 24, 1998 5:00 AM
> >> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> >> Subject:      Seeking recommendations on cellular modems
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution
> that works in
> >> the
> >> 200LX?
> >>
> >> I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac
> phone with
> >> a
> >> PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?
>
>
> Are these Analogue phones?
>
> If so I do have the solution..  It involves a "black box" and
> normal modem
>
> Russell
>
Yes, my startac is the analog variety. What's the solution and where can I
get it?

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:24:53 -0800
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A 40mb card and a Canon A5 camera! This is a serious combo.

I looked at some camera reviews at
     http://www.pcphotoforum.com/dc/reviews/user_reviews/ps_a5/index.cgi

What's your impression of the Canon? Worth the price? Does it mesh well
with the LX?

I liked that it was small like the Canon Powershot 350. Looks like it has a
viewfinder also, which was a peeve for me on the 350 which only sported an
LCD viewer.

- Longden





Nick Calceanu  on 11/25/98 04:31:39 AM

Please respond to Nick Calceanu 

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
Subject:  Re: Multi-partition flashcards...


To my(unpleasant) surprise it worked, but fdisk couldn't see
more than 16MB on my 40 MB card.

Actually my point is, I only could recover the whole
capacity of the card by re-formatting it in a Canon
Powershot A5 camera. About 2 sec, no questions asked.
This might help those with a messed up CF card.

Regards,
Nick

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It has been a few years but I used to use VB for DOS quite a bit, both for
some commercial development I did plus IP work for my employer.

I used to use it on a 286 class machine with no problems and I developed
for XT class customers who also had no problem running compiled programs.

The last version I had was I believe 3.0 Professional - had a lot of nice
features including some basic database capability. If I come across the
package I will post something more detailed.

Sorry, no I won't want to sell.

MikeK

-----Original Message-----
From:   kjh ÝSMTP:kjhmdjd@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
Sent:   Tuesday, November 24, 1998 10:26 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Visual Basic

There was a Visual Basic for DOS, which I believe Microsoft axed after
version 1.  I don't recall if it ran on XT-class machines.  I have a copy
buried somewhere amongst my thousands of 5.25 inch floppies in storage ...

-----Original Message-----
From: aguze118 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 6:34 AM
Subject: Visual Basic


Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Visual Basic to run on my
palmtop.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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>Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Visual Basic to run on my >palmtop.
>TIA
>Tony Guzewicz
Tony:

  If you mean Visual Basic for DOS, it is almost impossible to find,
and when you do it is INCREDIBLY expensive (>$200 USD).  Of course
earlier versions of VB for MS Windows can be had for $20 - $30 on the
EBAY auction site.  If you are running WINCE (you have a WINCE
palmtop), you need the WINCE developement kit as well.

  If you are using he 200LX, have you considered using MS Quick
Basic?

Brian W5VBO
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I've been trying out both HDM and SMMX and like some aspects of both
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I really like SMMX, but it seems a bit unstable at times.  Is there a way to
keep it from crashing constantly when I'm updating my menues?

Thanks!

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:21:27 -0500
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I have had messages indicating that there is a 3Com modem
(3cxm556) that supposedly requires 2 cables (one Nokia, one 3Com) to
work with the 6160 / 6162. Other messages say that there are problems
with this connection.

My local AT&T shop says that a new Cellular Modem for the 616x is
due by the end of the year.

But then, what do they know???

Jeff MacDowell wrote:
>
>
>
> ...  I have not been able to find a digital
> modem for the phone & the power drain would probably be too
> high for 200LX anyway.
>
> Jeff MacDowell.......jmacd@usa.net
>
I don't know enough to be able to comment on your last point (high
power drain)...

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Interesting - I didn't know that Micro$oft had gone all the way to a VB-DOS
version 3.  Anyway, I'm pretty sure that VB-DOS forms are incompatible with
the forms you would develop in VB for windows, and certainly the recent
mutations of VB-Win are pretty far removed in language syntax.  As an
alternative, the BASIC 7.0/7.1 PDS had a rudimentary but workable set of
widget-thingies for text-mode VB-DOS type interfaces, such as scroll bars,
sizable text boxes, list boxes, etc., and had a compiler.  Perhaps that
would be an option on the palmtop ...


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Kimmerly 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Visual Basic


<>

>The last version I had was I believe 3.0 Professional - had a lot of nice
>features including some basic database capability. If I come across the
>package I will post something more detailed.
>

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:47:07 -0500
Reply-To:     "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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Subject:      Re: Visual Basic
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              1998 at 03:11:09PM -0600
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I'm pretty sure there's a vb3 for dos, but i always used powerbasic.
pb 3.0 works fine on the 200lx (i just keep the compiler, note the ide)
and takes up ~200k.  i could never get v3.1 working (forgot why).

--francois

On Wed, Nov 25, 1998 at 03:11:09PM -0600, kjh wrote:
> Interesting - I didn't know that Micro$oft had gone all the way to a VB-DOS
> version 3.  Anyway, I'm pretty sure that VB-DOS forms are incompatible with
> the forms you would develop in VB for windows, and certainly the recent
> mutations of VB-Win are pretty far removed in language syntax.  As an
> alternative, the BASIC 7.0/7.1 PDS had a rudimentary but workable set of
> widget-thingies for text-mode VB-DOS type interfaces, such as scroll bars,
> sizable text boxes, list boxes, etc., and had a compiler.  Perhaps that
> would be an option on the palmtop ...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kimmerly 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Visual Basic
>
>
> <>
>
> >The last version I had was I believe 3.0 Professional - had a lot of nice
> >features including some basic database capability. If I come across the
> >package I will post something more detailed.
> >
>
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> ..... When I insert a
> PCMCIA memory card into the slot I get a beep from the PCMCIA
> drivers telling me the card was inserted but I can't see
> anything different on the screen.  Not knowing how the
> computer should react I'm asking for a little help from those
> of you that have the card reader working.
>
Do you have a free interrupt *before* you insert the card?

I'm using a different card reader - but had similar effects.

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:59:53 -0800
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I just checked the "boneyard" servers here at Microsoft and the only version
of Visual Basic for DOS I can find is version 1.0. It came in two editions:
standard (3 disks) and professional (8 disks).

- Joe

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:19:44 EST
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts

> You can buy flash cards which give you another drive, namely drive A:
> I have a 10Mb SAN Disk but today you can get much larger cards.
> Watch out as some cards use compression: what they call a, say, 40Mb
> card is a 20Mb card with compression software.
>
> There are also RAM cards. I would think they expand the size of the C:
> drive.
>
> Jorgen
>

You need to reread the original question, he is asking what happens
on his WIN95 machine when the card is plugged in. Also, both Flash
and SRAM cards in the LX will be assigned the A: drive, neither will
add to the C: drive that is in internal memory.

I haven't tried a SRAM card but a Flash card will be recognised as
new hardware and the drivers for it will be installed then it will
open the contents window. It does show up as another drive in the "my
computer" window.

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:44:25 -0500
Reply-To:     Jim Saklad 
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On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

DS> For the SUPER new additions.  These pages were up-to-date as of Friday,
DS> November 23.

What *year* was that (Friday, 11/23)? 

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:46:07 -0700
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What version of Remote commander are you running?
The version I'm running, that doesn't work, is 1.09.
This is the most current version found on SUPER.
I've noticed that RCA equipment may be more sensitive.
Has anybody else been able to get version 1.09 of remote commander to work with non-RCA equipment on a double speed LX?


-----Original Message-----
From:   Jorgen Wallgren ÝSMTP:jorgen@PALMTOP.NET¨
Sent:   Wednesday, November 25, 1998 4:29 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.

> The program to record and playback IR codes from a TV remote via the
> 100/200Lx does not work on the double speed machines because the
> program seems to use software timing loops and not hardware timing.
>

Which program are we talking about? I tried Remote Commander on my
double speed 200LX and it works without problems. So How come it works
on my machines....

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:47:04 -0700
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Found the problem.  The setup requires two completely free interrupts if =
the desktop you're installing it on  has a Hard Disk controller other =
than the Standard IDE controller driver.  After I freed up a couple of =
interrupts the standard IDE controller found a home and so did the =
PCMCIA driver.  After which everything started to work.  The memory card =
finds the next available drive letter and I can see everything as if it =
were just another drive.  This sure makes backups a snap!

Thanks to everyone for the discussion.

Now I would like to know if there is a PCMCIA reader that could plug =
into one of the two free slots on the existing card. I would imagine =
that it could be placed in one of the empty bays and connect to the NECX =
card through a ribbon cable and use some of the existing electronics on =
the card.  Anybody heard of such a beast?
=20

> ..... When I insert a=20
> PCMCIA memory card into the slot I get a beep from the PCMCIA=20
> drivers telling me the card was inserted but I can't see=20
> anything different on the screen.  Not knowing how the=20
> computer should react I'm asking for a little help from those=20
> of you that have the card reader working.
>=20
Do you have a free interrupt *before* you insert the card?

I'm using a different card reader - but had similar effects.

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On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Jim Saklad wrote:

> What *year* was that (Friday, 11/23)? 

Oops.  You know how close the 3 and 0 keys are on the keyboard.  

Looks like that was in 2001.  

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:39:13 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Visual Basic

Message-Id: <19981126043947.DAYT5426@Ý12.64.37.74¨>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 04:39:47 +0000

On 1998-11-25 joe@barrera.org said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I just checked the "boneyard" servers here at Microsoft and the
   >only version of Visual Basic for DOS I can find is version 1.0. It
   >came in two editions: standard (3 disks) and professional (8 disks).

I have the Pro version in my garage "boneyard", probably leftover
from one of my forays into other boneyards. Has 8 5.25" and 7 3.5"
floppies and the books. Maybe I'll see later if it's a complete set or
not. Box says "upgrade VB Pro 1.00".

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Date:         Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:39:27 -0600
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Subject:      Clock Accuracy

Does anyone know how accurate the clock is on the LX? In other words, does
it tend to lose or gain a certain amount of time each day?

As long as I speaking of time, why the heck would anyone need Beat Time? I
thought the standard time for the world was UTC, which seems to work pretty
well and is universal. I guess it's another scheme for someone to get rich.
I just wish that I could have thought of it .

73 Jeff


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From:         Brendan Macmillan 
Subject:      Re: Clock Accuracy
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> Does anyone know how accurate the clock is on the LX?

Seems pretty accurate to me - agrees to the second with my alarm clock
for weeks on end.

(Yes, I *do* use my LX as an alarm clock, but I really need two...)

PS did anyone ever link up the .wav player or speech synthesiser with
an Appointment entry? You could give youself all kinds of wake-up
messages...

--
Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au           Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
   Are you a nervous, figety person?  What are you going to do with all
   that energy? Are you going to build a spaceship, and discover a new
   solar system? Or are you going to till the land, and feed the
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
Comments: To: Dan Sommer 

> Found the problem.  The setup requires two completely free interrupts if the desktop you're installing it on  has a Hard Disk controller other than the Standard IDE controller driver.  After I freed

>
> Thanks to everyone for the discussion.
>
> Now I would like to know if there is a PCMCIA reader that could plug into one of the two free slots on the existing card. I would imagine that it could be placed in one of the empty bays and connect


Actually the external slot that fits in the drive bay will plug into
BOTH slots with a pair of ribbon cables. I have another model that is
exactly the same. You might want to check with SCM and see if they
sell the drive bay part with cables separate, you wouldn't even
really need the cables since they are just 40 pin straight through,
you could use IDE cables.

Pete


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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:04:28 +1200
Reply-To:     palmtop@IHUG.CO.NZ
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From:         John Shaw 
Subject:      Re: Seeking recommendations on cellular modems
Comments: To: epadin@WAGWEB.COM

On 11-25 01:00am, you wrote...

> Can anyone suggest a good (USA) cellular modem solution that works in the
> 200LX?
>
> I have a Motorola startac phone. Has anyone used a startac phone with a
> PCMCIA or Pocket cellular capable modem?
>
Hi - YES!

I use an APEX Data (Smart) Clipper Com World V.34 Data/Fax Modem
33.6/14.4kbps with my 200LX/2m & Startac 85596A phone

With It I download the days email (50~80 items from this list) on
batteries (1300MaH NiMh)

I have cut down the celular cable to 6" & the landline cable to only
1" which makes them very portable

I carry my 200lx in a Covertec case for Psion3 that has great belt clip
that clicks on/off and a "slide" that holds the modem card & cable which
slips in the case behind the 200LX under an elastic strap. Try one from
a Psion dealer.

I have an autoexec on C: for the modem and simply plug it in & reboot
-Note that you need the cellular cable plugged in to the card to set
it in cellular mode
Then start GP, plug in the phone (off), turn on phone, wait for signal,
dial (you see number run across the Startac display) Its easy & reliable.

Cheers

John
Wellington, New Zealand

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:51:39 +0800
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Hi There,

This is maybe old news already, but I earlier today I download a new
version of WWW/LX (and Post/LX) from www.dasoft.com and WWW/LX has now
ethernet support! I have tried it with in my office and it works
GREAT!!!

So now I would like to make a portable cable, since the standard LAN
cables with the RJ45 (45 I think it is..) connector has a rather large
diameter. I am sure that not all the 8 lines are used- I think only 4 is
actually used for a LAN connection. Anyone that can confirm this and if
so, which of the 8 lines are used?

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:39:17 -0700
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Folks:

  VB/DOS only had one version - 1.0.  It will run on any DOS based
machine.  VB/WIN will only run under Windows.  Versions 1.0 through
3.0 are 16 bit (WIN 3.0, 3.1).  Version 4.0 could be compiled for
either 16 bit or 32 bit (WIN 95 - 98).  Version 5.0 through 6.0
are 32 bit only.

   VB/DOS should run on ANY DOS machine, even under windows in
a DOS window.  The professional version has quite a few more
bells and whistles including ISAM data base, control creation
tools etc.  The compiler makes true .EXE files.  Unless you
choose to go the illegal route, it's very hard to find on the
market.  Nope, I won't sell mine.  If you want to see a sample
of what a VB/DOS program looks like, see the editor that shipped
with DOS 5.0 and above.  VB/DOS is event driven, and uses a primitive
event driven object model.  If you do any DOS programming it is
a pretty cool tool.

  I teach VB at a local community college, and have been a
BASIC programmer since BASICA was a new tool. If anyone has
any questions, I would be very glad to attempt to answer them.
Perhaps you should consider sending them to me personally,
rather than risking off topic problems with the list.

Brian W5VBO
Near Phoenix, AZ

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<>

I assume Super Software Carousel is on the C drive and you want to boot
from the A without SuperSC.

If you want to boot of the A, copy
f:\config.sys and c:\autoexec.bat to the A drive. Look in A:\CONFIG.SYS
and see which files it references (DEVICE=).  Copy those files from the
F (or C drive) to the A drive.  Change the DEVICE statement as necessary
(eg DEVICE=A:\SPD31.EXE).

Modify your AUTOEXEC.BAT file so it calls \SC7\HP.BAT rather than
\SC-HDM\AUTOSSC.BAT (or better just copy the lines in \SC7\HP.BAT that
you want directly into A:\AUTOEXEC.BAT).

Hope that helps.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:21:38 -0500
Reply-To:     lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Re: Visual Basic
Comments: To: bkassel@DANCRIS.COM

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Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:21:58 +0000

On 1998-11-26 bkassel@DANCRIS.COM said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >VB/DOS only had one version - 1.0.  It will run on any DOS based
   >machine.  VB/WIN will only run under Windows.  Versions 1.0 through
   >3.0 are 16 bit (WIN 3.0, 3.1).  Version 4.0 could be compiled for
   >either 16 bit or 32 bit (WIN 95 - 98).  Version 5.0 through 6.0
   >are 32 bit only.
   >VB/DOS should run on ANY DOS machine, even under windows in
   >a DOS window.  The professional version has quite a few more
   >bells and whistles including ISAM data base, control creation
   >tools etc.  The compiler makes true .EXE files.  Unless you
   >choose to go the illegal route, it's very hard to find on the
   >market.  Nope, I won't sell mine.  If you want to see a sample
   >of what a VB/DOS program looks like, see the editor that shipped
   >with DOS 5.0 and above.  VB/DOS is event driven, and uses a
   >primitive event driven object model.  If you do any DOS programming
   >it is a pretty cool tool.
   >I teach VB at a local community college, and have been a
   >BASIC programmer since BASICA was a new tool. If anyone has
   >any questions, I would be very glad to attempt to answer them.
   >Perhaps you should consider sending them to me personally,
   >rather than risking off topic problems with the list.

Very good info Brian.

Do you run your VB/DOS on the LX? Is there any value in doing that?
Have you written anything for the LX using it? Just wondering what
the advantages of VB would be (if any) on the LX when you could be
doing the work ala C/Pal.

I installed VB/DOS 1.0 Pro yesterday on the desktop and it took 11mb.
Have you determined the minimal files needed to reduce disk usage?

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:23:51 +0100
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I have many games with *.z80 extension for
G.A.Lunter-version 1.45 of the ZX Spectrum emulator. Is it
possible to convert these files, in order to use them in the
Nuclear ZX Spectrum emulator? I've read on this list that
Nuclear can emulate 50% of the original speed, which is
twice faster than the emulator I use right now (which
achieves 23.5%).


Dejan Radic
dradic@eunet.yu
Belgrade
Yugoslavia

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 09:52:37 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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In response to a couple of requests -- I don't have a personal copy of
Visual Basic for DOS, and I could/would get fired for sending off copies of
software from our internal servers, including the boneyard servers. In fact,
Microsoft is probably a lot more likely to fire an employee than go through
the bother of suing a nonemployee. So I really have to keep my nose clean
regarding "abandonware"...

- Joe

P.S. and PLEASE let's not start another abandonware discussion. Please.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:12:28 -0800
Reply-To:     Patrick West 
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From:         Patrick West 
Subject:      Re: Visual Basic
Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:

> P.S. and PLEASE let's not start another abandonware discussion. Please.
>

Agreed,  However is there any info available about MS stance on older
versions of the sofware?

I own VB5.0 pro version.  If I could obtain a copy of the old VB/dos from
a third party would MS allow me to use it based on my VB5.0 Licence?

I also have Quick Basic 4.0 but have done much with it.



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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:10:39 -0600
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From:         Stan Peters 
Subject:      FS: Basic Compiler 6.0 / Qbasic 4.0
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This is the Microsoft Basic compiler (v. 6.0) for DOS
which includes Quick Basic 4.0. The package is unused
and includes 10 lbs. of manuals and sealed 5 1/4" disks.
It is my understanding that this produces pgms for the LX
and that there was one release of the Basic newer than this.
I will not split up or open the sealed disks.
$30 shipped.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:55:29 -0500
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From:         Longden Loo 
Subject:      Small notebooks

Message-Id: <19981126185603.JVQM5426@Ý12.64.36.119¨>
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:56:03 +0000

I have an upcoming need for a small computer for work and would like to
solicit the advice of this list (as fellow computing folk sympathetic
to a preference for the small and simple).

I need a portable computer capable of doing some desktop apps (MS Office,
Lotus Notes), LAN connectivity and for doing occasional Java development.
All of the above are needed only during travel as most of my work will be
done on a desktop NT system.

I see that CompUSA is advertising an NEC Media GX Mini-notebook (4 lbs),
with a printer for $1000, which is the limit of my budget. Machine is 200mhz
(pentium equivalent), 32mb sync dram, 2.1gig drive, external 24x CD, 56k
modem, 8" DSTN. Printer is an NEC superscript 150c.

Anyone have any idea how this compares with Libretto, et al? Replies off
list are encouraged as I don't know if this is too far off topic.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:49:57 -0500
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      Off with LX LCD, flash strangeness, MP3, Midi, Cisco.

        Hello all,

    One should write a small (like 25 bytes or so) TSR, that can
    turn off LCD, when you press a hotkey combination. The code
    is already there in Haruya's LxMidi source (the -X switch).
    Someone posted, that he has 45 minute sessions in pSpice, that
    are painfully long. Could he gather 7% more CPU cycles with LCD
    turned off, that means 4 min. less wait. One practical use. Can
    also serve as a safety measure.

    I talked to a Psioneer and realized that they can only write and
    delete to flash media, but cannot write to the empty place where
    deleted files were. Those holes remain empty. So when they run
    out of flash space, reformatting the whole device is a must. He
    also said that it applies to both SSD on S3 and CF on S5 machines.
    Is this hardware-related or just their OS?

    There was a question about MP3 on palmtop and MP3->Wav conversion.
    Found out earlier L3encoder/decoder had two versions, one 8088
    w/o FPU and a 386 w/ FP. But I can't find the older version and
    new ones just say can't go to 32. Anyone with early l3dec l3enc ?
    (But those need to run for decades to Wav-ize a 900kb .M3 on LX!)

    Also, seems like a Midi->Wav converter for 8086 is non-trivial.
    Is it possible to get Wav output from LxMidi? Rewrite needed?
    That 3-sound modification should be done anyhow, so there's ample
    reason to modify.

    I bet finally portable PCMCIA/Cardbus MP3 walkman will appear.
    Such a device with 200-440MB flash and a DPS onboard will play
    fine and transferring MP3 files to it will be easy via PC card.
    But chances for DOS compatibility are near nil.

    If any of you ever used Cisco Remote Light, please contact me.
    I need this as a Trumpet Winsock replacement for strange reason.
    But noone used it over here, so need advices, etc.

    Do you know a working e-mail to phone fax gateway, that allows
    trial period/same free runs? Possibly w/o advertisement banner.

                Thanks in advice,
                            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:04:04 -0600
Reply-To:     Jeff Johns 
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From:         Jeff Johns 
Subject:      Cool freeware & software

I found some interesting freeware and shareware at:

http://www.alkaid.ml.org/freeware

What I have downloaded and tried so far works well on the LX. The Power Menu
program is pretty slick and requires a minimal amount of RAM. Have fun!

73 Jeff



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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:24:17 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio=20Cust=F3dio?=
              
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Subject:      Re: HDM vs SMMX
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I like and use SMMX, never tried HDM though.

Mitigation for crashes: a lot of patience while setting it up, and never
touch the menus again.

Paulo


Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> I've been trying out both HDM and SMMX and like some aspects of both
> systems.  Which program do most people prefer between the two?
>
> I really like SMMX, but it seems a bit unstable at times.  Is there a way to
> keep it from crashing constantly when I'm updating my menues?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Terry
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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:37:41 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio=20Cust=F3dio?=
              
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Subject:      Re: Small notebooks
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For JAVA development you would want at least 40MB. I've tried to run
Visual Cafe for Java in a Pentium 200 notebook with 32MB of ram, and I
could not compile anything because of memory shortage.

The notebook is the one I am typing on: Toshiba 310 CDS


Longden Loo wrote:
>
> Message-Id: <19981126185603.JVQM5426@Ý12.64.36.119¨>
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:56:03 +0000
>
> I have an upcoming need for a small computer for work and would like to
> solicit the advice of this list (as fellow computing folk sympathetic
> to a preference for the small and simple).
>
> I need a portable computer capable of doing some desktop apps (MS Office,
> Lotus Notes), LAN connectivity and for doing occasional Java development.
> All of the above are needed only during travel as most of my work will be
> done on a desktop NT system.
>
> I see that CompUSA is advertising an NEC Media GX Mini-notebook (4 lbs),
> with a printer for $1000, which is the limit of my budget. Machine is 200mhz
> (pentium equivalent), 32mb sync dram, 2.1gig drive, external 24x CD, 56k
> modem, 8" DSTN. Printer is an NEC superscript 150c.
>
> Anyone have any idea how this compares with Libretto, et al? Replies off
> list are encouraged as I don't know if this is too far off topic.
>
> - Longden
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:32:45 +0100
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I still did not manage to do it.

I am able to compile a C program with Turbo C++, link with the object
files from NKIT (available at SUPER), run makeexm (also from NKIT), and
the application runs under the System Manager.

I am able to do the same with a C++ program, as long as I do not define
any object with a constructor. I can define classes with constructors,
but when I define an object of that class, I get the following Turbo
Linker error:

        Error: Undefined symbol ___BRKLVL in library file \tc\lib\cs.lib in
module BRK
        Error: Undefined symbol _ERRNO in library file \tc\lib\cs.lib in module
BRK

If I do not link the object file tccstart.obj (from NKIT), then the
program links without errors, but when I try to execute it in the LX, I
just get 2 beeps.

Anyone has a hint?

Thanks in advance!
Paulo

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:11:03 GMT
Reply-To:     Shafik Mahomad 
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From:         Shafik Mahomad 
Subject:      ÝHelp¨ Setting up an M-Systems 4 Mb Flash Card
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Hello

I'm having trouble setting up an smallish Flash card from M-Systems,
the card says it supports trueFFS (Whatever that is), my question is :

What DOS drivers and specific card drivers do I have to install in order
to use the card (its borrowed so I don't really have the manuals and such) =
?

I have tried just about everything, including e-mailing M-systems tech supp=
ort,
they sent a bunch of files for socket services and card services .. I just =
couldn't
make any sense of that

Anyone wiling to help me out ??

TIA


Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:11:08 GMT
Reply-To:     Shafik Mahomad 
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From:         Shafik Mahomad 
Subject:      ÝHelp¨ Going Postal
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Hi again

Here's another one for ya...

I have setup Goin Postal, established a connection to the ISP, and started =
to
download my e-mail, problem is, the process always hangs in the middle of
receiving the HPLX Daily Digest, looks like my setup can't handle
messages bigger than 30 something Kbs....

Hopin' another kind soul to help me out again :-)

TIA


Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:20:22 +10
Reply-To:     Alain 
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From:         Alain 
Subject:      AOL
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hi
is someone use AOL with the LX.
do you requiere a special software for reading your Email?
Alain

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:42:39 +1100
Reply-To:     Brendan Macmillan 
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Subject:      SQL for hplx DOS?
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Is anyone using an SQL database package on the lx?
In 1981 IBM had (apparently) had a SQL product: SQL/DS for the
"DOS/VSE" environment - whatever that is.

This has got to be a goer for the lx!

Any reccommedations or pointers?


Thanks!
Cheers
Brendan

For what it's worth, I often use the lx as a way to practice
for desktop projects. It's a good use of dead time to investigate
and experient.


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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:58:37 -0800
Reply-To:     Patrick West 
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From:         Patrick West 
Subject:      Re: SQL for hplx DOS?
Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan 
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On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Is anyone using an SQL database package on the lx?
> In 1981 IBM had (apparently) had a SQL product: SQL/DS for the
> "DOS/VSE" environment - whatever that is.

It is an IBM Mainframe. Sorry


>
> This has got to be a goer for the lx!
>
> Any reccommedations or pointers?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Cheers
> Brendan
>
> For what it's worth, I often use the lx as a way to practice
> for desktop projects. It's a good use of dead time to investigate
> and experient.
>
>
> --
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>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:01:29 +0800
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 1 Nov 1998 to 2 Nov 1998 - Special issue
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Hi.
Help required....
I need to know how I can make my notebook PC running on windows95
recognise/read the PCMCIA data storage card that I use on my HP200?
Thanks
kc
--------------------------------------------------:)
Speiling mistiakes? what spielling misstakss?
kckhor@pc.jaring.my
khorkc@simenet.com

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 01:51:43 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad 
Subject:      Re: Off with LX LCD, flash strangeness, MP3, Midi, Cisco.
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On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

>         Hello all,
>
>     One should write a small (like 25 bytes or so) TSR, that can
>     turn off LCD, when you press a hotkey combination. The code
>     is already there in Haruya's LxMidi source (the -X switch).
>     Someone posted, that he has 45 minute sessions in pSpice, that
>     are painfully long. Could he gather 7% more CPU cycles with LCD
>     turned off, that means 4 min. less wait. One practical use. Can
>     also serve as a safety measure.

There is already a program on SUPER that can do this. It's called DISP and
although its size is somewhat larger than 26 bytes (800 bytes I think), it
gets the job done. It is not a TSR, though, but a command line utility.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:20:03 +1100
Reply-To:     Brendan Macmillan 
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From:         Brendan Macmillan 
Subject:      Re: SQL for hplx DOS? Answer
In-Reply-To:  <199811262342.KAA06488@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan
              Macmillan" at Nov 27, 98 10:42:39 am
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> Is anyone using an SQL database package on the lx?

I found "SSQL" on SimTel, which is working fine on my lx right now.
Though I've tried only simple stuff so far.

        470k unzipped (inc 175k .doc file)

I'm looking at server-side scripts to create html from database queries.
   If only HV would run local CGI scripts...  ;-)

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:37:25 -0600
Reply-To:     jls@GOLDENGATE.NET
Sender:       HPLX Mailing List 
From:         John L Stanley 
Subject:      Re: Nokia 6160 & 200LX
Comments: To: jmacd@usa.net
In-Reply-To:  <000a01be187e$af9b77a0$7101010a@jmacdowell>

  In theory, there is an adapter you can attach to the 6160 (which I also
own) that can force the phone into analog mode for modem use.  I think it's
called a "DAR-3".  You'll also need a "cellular ready" modem (they recommend
one from US Robotics, and another cable that's used to go to from the modem
to a Nokia 2160 (the type of jack on the modem side of the DAR-3).

  If anyone has managed to get this to work, please post details.

 ...Follow-up...
  I just checked my archive of 6160 info.  Here's a message that was posted
to the alt.cellular.nokia newsgroup a few months ago.  This has more detail
than my message above...

>Subject: Re: Nokia 6160 - Modem question
>Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 19:09:54 -0500
>From: Canyon River 
>Newsgroups: alt.cellular, alt.cellular.data, alt.cellular.nokia
>
>The adaptor to attach a PCMCIA card to your 6160 or 6120 is Nokia part
>number DAR-3, they are do to be released soon, this is an adaptor cable
>that attaches to the bottom of the phone and the other end has the Nokia
>2160 data port so and 2160/2120/2160i PCMCIA cable should work, ( check
>with your card manufacture for information on your card )the DAR-3 puts
>the phone into Analog mode to send and recieve data.
>I have found no information from Nokia on this product and will have
>more information when this product starts shipping.
>
>Canyon River Cellular
>http://www.canyonriver.com

  Good luck,
          ... John L. Stanley

---
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Software Development Consultant @ Dynasoft Systems

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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:10:18 -0500
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Subject:      Re: ÝHelp¨ Setting up an M-Systems 4 Mb Flash Card
Comments: To: Shafik Mahomad 
In-Reply-To:  <19981126231055.DXQV5965@mail.telepac.pt>; from Shafik Mahomad on
              Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 11:11:03PM +0000
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ftp://ftp.m-sys.com/pub/PCMCI321.ZIP

it has all the drivers for this type of card, i use the ones in
the tffs8086 directory on my 200lx... m-sys was totally useless
while i was looking for them, but they had it the whole time.

there's enough docs in there to get you going, if you need help
just e-mail me...

--francois

On Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 11:11:03PM +0000, Shafik Mahomad wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm having trouble setting up an smallish Flash card from M-Systems,
> the card says it supports trueFFS (Whatever that is), my question is :
>
> What DOS drivers and specific card drivers do I have to install in order
> to use the card (its borrowed so I don't really have the manuals and such) ?
>
> I have tried just about everything, including e-mailing M-systems tech support,
> they sent a bunch of files for socket services and card services .. I just couldn't
> make any sense of that
>
> Anyone wiling to help me out ??
>
> TIA
>
>
> Shafik Mahomad
> -----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
> Lisbon, Portugal
>
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Date:         Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:10:17 -0500
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Subject:      Re: ÝHelp¨ Setting up an M-Systems 4 Mb Flash Card
Comments: To: Shafik Mahomad 
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OOPS!! case sensitive mistake in that url, it should be:
ftp://ftp.m-sys.com/pub/PCMCI321.zip

--francois

8/_  --snip-- _\8

ftp://ftp.m-sys.com/pub/PCMCI321.ZIP

it has all the drivers for this type of card, i use the ones in
the tffs8086 directory on my 200lx... m-sys was totally useless
while i was looking for them, but they had it the whole time.

there's enough docs in there to get you going, if you need help
just e-mail me...

--francois

On Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 11:11:03PM +0000, Shafik Mahomad wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm having trouble setting up an smallish Flash card from M-Systems,
> the card says it supports trueFFS (Whatever that is), my question is :
>
> What DOS drivers and specific card drivers do I have to install in order
> to use the card (its borrowed so I don't really have the manuals and such) ?
>
> I have tried just about everything, including e-mailing M-systems tech support,
> they sent a bunch of files for socket services and card services .. I just couldn't
> make any sense of that
>
> Anyone wiling to help me out ??
>
> TIA
>
>
> Shafik Mahomad
> -----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
> Lisbon, Portugal
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:14:03 +0000
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 25 Nov 1998 to 26 Nov 1998
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Jorgen,

The standard 10BaseT cabling, only uses 4 of the 8 wires.

Tx      Pins 1 & 2
Rx      Pins 3 & 6

Count from left, holding the cable in your hand, the plug facing away
and the pins upwards!

Regards

David Cripps




>From:    Jorgen Wallgren 
>Subject: WWW/LX and ethernet connection.
>
>So now I would like to make a portable cable, since the standard LAN
>cables with the RJ45 (45 I think it is..) connector has a rather large
>diameter. I am sure that not all the 8 lines are used- I think only 4 is
>actually used for a LAN connection. Anyone that can confirm this and if
>so, which of the 8 lines are used?
>Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:28:43 +0800
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Hi there!

After have tried to run LANMAN 2.2c on the 200LX, I now know that the
TCP/IP driver will not load since they require a 286 processor. If MS
LANMAN could work on a 200LX, a network connection with a NT Server will
be solved.

So I was thinking that there must be some versions of LANMAN before V.
2.2c... LANMAN 2.2c can be found on the NT Server 3.51 & 4.0 CD-ROM in
the Clients directory. My question is now if anyone out there has a copy
of NT 3.0 Server and could check if an earlier version of LANMAN can be
found there? Or maybe you have an old copy of LANMAN in your
collections?

Please let me know, since it could result in serious networking using
200LX. So far I have been able to get NETBEUI up and running on the
200LX and I can map drivers and even print to a network printer (from a
DOS program- such as MS Word for DOS). But I want to do more- TCP/IP.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:17:01 -0700
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Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
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I disabled a COM port and LPT port (printing on a network) in my BIOS to =
free up the interrupts.  This may not be a solution for most people but =
it did solve the problem for me.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Leland Hambley ÝSMTP:leland@ricochet.net¨
Sent:   Wednesday, November 25, 1998 10:27 PM
To:     Dan Sommer
Subject:        Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.

Congrats of finding the problem.  I was waiting in the wings because I =
have a very similar problem.
How did you free up the interrupts?  Any suggestions on what interrupts =
can be reclaimed?

Leland

Dan Sommer wrote:

> Found the problem.  The setup requires two completely free interrupts =
if the desktop you're installing it on  has a Hard Disk controller other =
than the Standard IDE controller driver.  After I freed up a couple of =
interrupts the standard IDE controller found a home and so did the =
PCMCIA driver.  After which everything started to work.  The memory card =
finds the next available drive letter and I can see everything as if it =
were just another drive.  This sure makes backups a snap!
>
> Thanks to everyone for the discussion.
>
> Now I would like to know if there is a PCMCIA reader that could plug =
into one of the two free slots on the existing card. I would imagine =
that it could be placed in one of the empty bays and connect to the NECX =
card through a ribbon cable and use some of the existing electronics on =
the card.  Anybody heard of such a beast?
>
>
> > ..... When I insert a
> > PCMCIA memory card into the slot I get a beep from the PCMCIA
> > drivers telling me the card was inserted but I can't see
> > anything different on the screen.  Not knowing how the
> > computer should react I'm asking for a little help from those
> > of you that have the card reader working.
> >
> Do you have a free interrupt *before* you insert the card?
>
> I'm using a different card reader - but had similar effects.
>
> Regards Hermann
>
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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:20:40 -0700
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From:         Dan Sommer 
Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
Comments: To: "tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us" 
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Who is SCM and where are they located (web site?)?
What is the model that you are currently using?


-----Original Message-----
From:   Peter W. Borders ÝSMTP:TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us¨
Sent:   Wednesday, November 25, 1998 10:16 PM
To:     Dan Sommer; HPLX Mailing List
Subject:        Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.

> Found the problem.  The setup requires two completely free interrupts =
if the desktop you're installing it on  has a Hard Disk controller other =
than the Standard IDE controller driver.  After I freed

>=20
> Thanks to everyone for the discussion.
>=20
> Now I would like to know if there is a PCMCIA reader that could plug =
into one of the two free slots on the existing card. I would imagine =
that it could be placed in one of the empty bays and connect


Actually the external slot that fits in the drive bay will plug into=20
BOTH slots with a pair of ribbon cables. I have another model that is=20
exactly the same. You might want to check with SCM and see if they=20
sell the drive bay part with cables separate, you wouldn't even=20
really need the cables since they are just 40 pin straight through,=20
you could use IDE cables.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:13:13 -0700
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From:         Dan Sommer 
Subject:      Re: TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.
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Any way to find out the name of the other TV remote program?

-----Original Message-----
From:   Jorgen Wallgren ÝSMTP:wallgren@singnet.com.sg¨
Sent:   Thursday, November 26, 1998 1:37 AM
To:     Dan Sommer
Subject:        TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.

Hi,

> What version of Remote commander are you running?
> The version I'm running, that doesn't work, is 1.09.
> This is the most current version found on SUPER.
> I've noticed that RCA equipment may be more sensitive.
> Has anybody else been able to get version 1.09 of remote
> commander to work with non-RCA equipment on a double speed LX?

Yes, I tried version 1.09 but it will not work with all kinds of
equipment- and I belive RCA will not work. I have heard that there is
another IR remote control program (can't remember the name), which works
better than Remote Commander...

Regards,


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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:32:51 -0500
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Hello dear 200LX user,

I work at a petrochemical plant, and am a big 200LX fan.  Next year, our
network at work will be changed from Windows 3.1 to Windows NT.  I
currently use LLRA provided with my 200LX on WIndows 3.1 to transfer files
between my 200LX and the LAN, and developped quite a number of Lotus
spreadsheets I dump on the LAN quite often, so they became part of my own
worklist.  However, my NET manager says that by changing to NT, I need to
provide him a NT compatible driver if I want to keep the current
functionalities of file transfer between 200LX and Desktop PC.

Does such a 200LX linker compatible with windows NT exist?

If you are aware of such a driver, could you please let me know where or
how I could get it?  Your help will be much appreciated.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help.

Richard Surprenant
Montreal, Quebec, Canada

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:30:47 -0600
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I'm not sure anyone cares, but I thought I'd mention that Solaris 7 for
Intel correctly recognizes and installs support for the NECX PCMCIA card
reader as well as Linux ...

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:41:15 -0800
Reply-To:     "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
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From:         "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." 
Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
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i have a simple drive that required 1 free interupt (i gave up my serial
port on com1)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Sommer Ýmailto:Dan.Sommer@M.CC.UTAH.EDU¨
> Sent: Friday, November 27, 1998 7:17 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
>
>
> I disabled a COM port and LPT port (printing on a network) in
> my BIOS to free up the interrupts.  This may not be a
> solution for most people but it did solve the problem for me.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Leland Hambley ÝSMTP:leland@ricochet.net¨
> Sent:   Wednesday, November 25, 1998 10:27 PM
> To:     Dan Sommer
> Subject:        Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.
>
> Congrats of finding the problem.  I was waiting in the wings
> because I have a very similar problem.
> How did you free up the interrupts?  Any suggestions on what
> interrupts can be reclaimed?
>
> Leland
>
> Dan Sommer wrote:
>
> > Found the problem.  The setup requires two completely free
> interrupts if the desktop you're installing it on  has a Hard
> Disk controller other than the Standard IDE controller
> driver.  After I freed up a couple of interrupts the standard
> IDE controller found a home and so did the PCMCIA driver.
> After which everything started to work.  The memory card
> finds the next available drive letter and I can see
> everything as if it were just another drive.  This sure makes
> backups a snap!
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the discussion.
> >
> > Now I would like to know if there is a PCMCIA reader that
> could plug into one of the two free slots on the existing
> card. I would imagine that it could be placed in one of the
> empty bays and connect to the NECX card through a ribbon
> cable and use some of the existing electronics on the card.
> Anybody heard of such a beast?
> >
> >
> > > ..... When I insert a
> > > PCMCIA memory card into the slot I get a beep from the PCMCIA
> > > drivers telling me the card was inserted but I can't see
> > > anything different on the screen.  Not knowing how the
> > > computer should react I'm asking for a little help from those
> > > of you that have the card reader working.
> > >
> > Do you have a free interrupt *before* you insert the card?
> >
> > I'm using a different card reader - but had similar effects.
> >
> > Regards Hermann
> >
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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:16:58 -0800
Reply-To:     Patrick West 
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From:         Patrick West 
Subject:      Re: TCP/IP Drivers and 200LX
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On Fri, 27 Nov 1998, Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> the Clients directory. My question is now if anyone out there has a copy
> of NT 3.0 Server and could check if an earlier version of LANMAN can be

There was never a NT 3.0  first release of NT was 3.1

Try looking for a client for MS OS/2 1.x Lan Server

> found there? Or maybe you have an old copy of LANMAN in your
> collections?
>
> Please let me know, since it could result in serious networking using
> 200LX. So far I have been able to get NETBEUI up and running on the
> 200LX and I can map drivers and even print to a network printer (from a
> DOS program- such as MS Word for DOS). But I want to do more- TCP/IP.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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>

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp 4.0, NTW 4.0, & the
HP200LX, PGP 2.x Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:25:51 -0500
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You cannot disable the double speed crystal.  It vibrates at a
constant speed at all times.  You can not load the driver for the
double speed crystal, but that would only leave the display screwy and
the clock out of whack and the serial port running at twice normal
speed.  I don't see how this could help the IR remote control
program.


Stan

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Date:         Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:25:49 -0500
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Yes, you can access AOL with the 100/200LX.  Got to the PDA forum
there and download the older version 1.6 of the AOL access program.


Stan

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:34:35 -0500
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      WWW/LX suprise new network version, LXmidi.

        Dear all,

    Thanks for pointing out new WWW/LX with network support! I guess
    D&A was about to announce it after Thanks-giving; so local palm-
    toppers won't go trying it overnight, ruining family holidays.

    I have installed it onto 286/16 desktop (w/ netware arcnet) and
    the demo works very fast. I plan to try if it can use Token Ring
    under Netware as well (on desktop w/ Xircom Pocket TR III parallel
    to TR adapter); if so, then it supports all networking methods.

    It is just me, or the size of the sandclock grew quite a bit? I
    wonder if that means a Win 3.0 version sometimes? Or that's just
    a PALRUN side-effect?

    What's an editor for desktop, that has the feel closest to MEMO?

    Seems like, when LxMidi is called by WWW/LX, it cannot use the -S
    option for EMS. From pure DOS, it's OK. Is it a problem for my
    desktop, or present on any machine for programming reasons?

    And BTW, is the .LXM object format of LxMidi got documented? It's
    not in the ver. 1.71 zip file on SUPER. I still think WAV.

            Thank you in advance,
                        Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:46:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Dan Sommer 
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I have a HP 4Meg (no upgrade) with a small 16Meg flash card and a T2 =
clock doubler.=20

I've been using Software Carousel with a swap file on my C: drive which =
is on the 4Meg memory area that came on the original system.  I read the =
other day that I could convert the extra memory to expanded memory and =
get a little more "swap" speed from SC. =20

I downloaded the EMM200 driver from SUPER and tried to install it.  At =
first I thought something was wrong with my computer but then discovered =
that some of the documentation was written in Japanese.  After fumbling =
through the one english document, I believe I was able to get the EMS =
driver file installed.  The problem was that CHKDSK always reported =
errors after I installed the file.  At this point I have not been able =
to successfully install EMM200 on my system. =20

My question to the list is "Will EMS memory speed up the swap process =
that much?"
How many of you actually use EMS with Software Carousel?  Is there any =
chance of using "Extended" memory on the HP200LX or does that require a =
286 or better?

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:48:59 -0700
Reply-To:     Dan Sommer 
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From:         Dan Sommer 
Subject:      Re: TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.
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I couldn't find RC.ZIP on the S.U.P.E.R site - where do you find it?


-----Original Message-----
From:   Koolish@aol.com ÝSMTP:Koolish@aol.com¨
Sent:   Friday, November 27, 1998 9:33 AM
To:     Dan.Sommer@m.cc.utah.edu
Subject:        Re: TV Remote on Double Speed Machine.

other program is remote control
file is rc.zip

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:07:51 -0600
Reply-To:     "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
Organization: Mayo Medical School
Subject:      Leaving .EXM programs open
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Is there any way to leave .EXM programs open without having the annoying
beeping sound each time the LX is turned on?

Thanks for any help.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:55:38 -0500
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Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:29:13 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> I have a HP 4Meg (no upgrade)

> I downloaded the EMM200 driver from SUPER and tried to install it.

> I believe I was able to get the EMS driver file installed.  The problem
> was that CHKDSK always reported errors after I installed the file.


Hi Dan-

I think there are 2 "gotchas" working here.  First, I think that EMM200
doesn't work on 4MB machines without a patch.  AFAIK the information
about it is on Murray Barton's page (don't recall the URL offhand, but
I think there's a link on Palmtop.net).  The second problem is that
EMM200 needs contiguous space - it can't work if there's any
fragmentation.  That's probably tha cause of the CHKDSK errors.

-Peniel
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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:28:47 -0500
Reply-To:     cwbrad@IBM.NET
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From:         "C.W. Bradley" 
Subject:      FS MS Win 3.0 disks & manuals

For Sale:
MS WIN 3.0 and MS DOS 5.0
Still shrunk wrapped with manuals and 3.5" media
$20 or best offer + shipping.
Reply to cwbrad@ibm.net


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I appreciate the ideas.  I made sure the space was contiguous and tried =
to apply the patch mentioned on Murray's website.  When I tried to run =
the patch I got nothing but a continuos loop of "beeps" from the =
computer.  I had to give it the three finger salute to get the =
computer's attention again.

Somebody mentioned TREMM as a replacement for EMM200.  Has anybody heard =
of the program and will it work on a 4Meg 200LX?


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From:   Peniel Romanelli ÝSMTP:peniel@WEB2000.NET¨
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Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:29:13 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> I have a HP 4Meg (no upgrade)

> I downloaded the EMM200 driver from SUPER and tried to install it.

> I believe I was able to get the EMS driver file installed.  The =
problem
> was that CHKDSK always reported errors after I installed the file.


Hi Dan-

I think there are 2 "gotchas" working here.  First, I think that EMM200
doesn't work on 4MB machines without a patch.  AFAIK the information
about it is on Murray Barton's page (don't recall the URL offhand, but
I think there's a link on Palmtop.net).  The second problem is that
EMM200 needs contiguous space - it can't work if there's any
fragmentation.  That's probably tha cause of the CHKDSK errors.

-Peniel
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>
> Yes, you can access AOL with the 100/200LX.  Got to the PDA forum
> there and download the older version 1.6 of the AOL access program.
>
> Stan
>

Make shure that you have Sprintnet access before. DOS-AOL 1.6
will work with SprintNet only and I remember they have dumped
service in the beginning of 1998 (at least in Europe).

HP

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I bought a 30 meg cf sandisk today and the system won't see it at all. Any
ideas?  Should I take it back and buy a 20 meg?  What is the model number
on yours?


On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Liam M. Early wrote:

> I asked the other day how I may download the
> pictures from my Canon Powershot 350 to
> my HP200LX.
>
> Well my 20Mb Sandisk flash card arrived on
> monday so I plugged in the card to the PCMIA
> adapter popped it all in to the HP200 and voila
> instant A drive (why isn't windows technology
> this easy - having just loaded twain drivers into
> NT)
>
> Umm I thought what If  I take the 2mb compact
> flash out of the camera and pop it into the HP
> with the adapter.  BINGO  the HP recognises
> the card and shows .jpg files!
>
> So it would appear that I have an alternative
> method to download file from the HP to another
> computer (with the tranfile program) I have yet
> to test this but it looks promising.....will keep
> you posted.
>
> Regards......Liam
> Bunbury, Western Australia
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Tomas, you can use PalEdit as the editor on the desktop for use with
WWW/LX Plus.  PE will still need the PALrun utility, but you already
have it loaded for Post so you don't need to load it again.


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Dan, I have heard mixed reviews of whether the SC swap file as a disk
file or Expanded memory is faster.  I think the difference is speed is
tiny either way.

Personally, I find it simplier and cleaner to just let SC make a disk
file on the C: drive for the swap space.

You can probably do more to improve your swap times by not making the
SC sessions any larger than they need to be to run the program you
have in them.  For example, if in session 2 you are runing XYZ program
and it needs 300K to run, then there is no point in making a 520K
session for it.  With the smaller RAM allotment, that session will
swap in/out faster.


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> Is there any way to leave .EXM programs open without having the
annoying > beeping sound each time the LX is turned on?

There should not any beeping sound just because an EXM program is open
when you turn the palmtop on.  That beep is a signal that there is a
problem because SysMgr is trying to orient itself after the power on
and it cannot find some parts of that EXM program that was open when
the palmtop was shut off.

So, you need to check out where the EXM program you are having trouble
with it located and if these it some reason why SysMgr cannot find
this when it powers up.  Perhaps did you swap flash cards or something
like that?


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Does anyone know the process needed to create topcards?

I know they are standard PCX files but there is some type of
cropping and stretching involved. (read that somewhere)

The topcards I've created have a black vertical bar on the
far right side.

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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> My 40 Meg SunDisk works just fine, and did right out of the box.  You might
> try formatting the card, though

Tried that.  Invalid media responce. I loaded it into my Laptop and it
works fine.  Just no go on the HP200LX.

So it looks like the 20s and 40s work but not the 30s.
HMMM

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<>

I am currently in contact with MS on making Win 3.0 and Excel and Word
available. If we can set things up and the process is smooth, we can
look into other software.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 15:34:49 PST
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Got a 48MB Sandisk CF and it seem to work OK.
no drivers or anything.

BTW, is anyone familar with STACKER V3.0 specifically
in using PASSWD cmd and how its applied?

Keep getting INVALID STACKER DRIVE msg.
when attempting to apply new password.

TIA,
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> The topcards I've created have a black vertical bar on the
> far right side.

Don, the topcards for the 100/200LX are 640x200 black and white images
with the black and white inverted.  If you are getting a black bar on
the right side, then your image must not be 640 pixels in the
horizontal direction.  Perhaps you are only using 480 of the 640?

And you need to invert the b/w pixels because a "on" pixel is black on
the palmtop's LCD while an "on" pixel is white on a normal CRT screen.


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Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:01:18 -0500 (EST)

04h49m11s ago ...
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> Somebody mentioned TREMM as a replacement for EMM200.  Has anybody
> heard of the program and will it work on a 4Meg 200LX?

Hi again-

TREMM is the EMS driver supplied with the Mack/Thaddeus memory upgraded
palmtops.  AFAIK you can only get it from Mack if you have the extra T2T
RAM.  Don't know if it will work on 4MB machines.

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01h55m56s ago ...
On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Donald Collins wrote:

> Does anyone know the process needed to create topcards?

You can create them from scratch with a paint program (like Finger
Paint on SUPER) or Use LXPIC to view a picture you like, then save just
the screen. (F5 I think).

> I know they are standard PCX files but there is some type of
> cropping and stretching involved. (read that somewhere)

They want to be 640 x 200 pixels, B&W PCX.  If you use LXPIC, hitting
the H key fixes the vertical dimension to compensate for the LX's pixel
aspect ratio.

> The topcards I've created have a black vertical bar on the
> far right side.

That's probably because they're less than 640 pixels wide...

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Stan -

SD> Dan, I have heard mixed reviews of whether the SC swap file as a disk
SD> file or Expanded memory is faster.  I think the difference is speed is
SD> tiny either way.

I had a Thaddeus-upgraded 8MD doublespeed unit with SC-6, and used EMM for
the primary swap area.

I then got my other machine Thaddeus-upgraded to 64MB doublespeed, with
SC-7. Swapping seemed slow with just a swapfile on the 64MB drive. Many
attempts with Mack's help left me still unable to set up an EMM file on
the 2MB drive that SC would recognize, so I finally set it up on the 64MB
drive.

For me, swaps are *much* faster now, using EMM, than previously, on the
same machine, with the same version of SC, using a swapFILE.

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 18:37:21 -0800
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Anyone design a good color set for Foxpro on the LX.  I'm
having a hard time getting the display right.

I also get an error "Cannot find screen/menu generation program"
when I build.  I downloaded the program off the internet.  Anyone
know what I'm missing?

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Date:         Sat, 28 Nov 1998 19:56:17 -0800
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I just discovered the problem was with my graphics program.  I have been
using Aldus Photo Styler 2.0 which seems to shrink the width of the image
and yet still reports that the file is 640 x 200.  Adobe PhotoShop 4.0 seems
to do the job fine.

Don.

>Don, the topcards for the 100/200LX are 640x200 black and white images
>with the black and white inverted.  If you are getting a black bar on
>the right side, then your image must not be 640 pixels in the
>horizontal direction.  Perhaps you are only using 480 of the 640?
>
>Stan

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I went back to Frye's and tried the 20meg CF and it didn't work.

I'm wondering if anyone who is using the CF disks is running a doublespeed
machine?



On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Nov 1998 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:
>
> > My 40 Meg SunDisk works just fine, and did right out of the box.  You might
> > try formatting the card, though
>
> Tried that.  Invalid media responce. I loaded it into my Laptop and it
> works fine.  Just no go on the HP200LX.
>
> So it looks like the 20s and 40s work but not the 30s.
> HMMM
>
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I have an 8Mb doublespeed 200LX.  I had an older 10Mb Flashdisk that
worked great.  When I got ready to get a larger disk I stayed with
Sandisk and got a 30Mb CF card.  It works great and I haven't had any
problems.  I didn't have to do anything special to get it to work.


>
> So it looks like the 20s and 40s work but not the 30s.
> HMMM

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Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:29:48 +0000

On 1998-11-28 pccare@TELEPORT.COM said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I went back to Frye's and tried the 20meg CF and it didn't work.
   >I'm wondering if anyone who is using the CF disks is running a
   >doublespeed machine?

I used my 6mb/2x (T2T upgraded) LX to view and copy files off the 16mb
SimpleTech CF I used in my digital camera. Card was read from the slot
using the SimpleTech PCMCIA adapter. I didn"t have to do anything
special software-wise.

- Longden

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Someone had written previously about using the Toshiba PDR5
with the HP 200. My local CompUSA had them for $169 so I
bought one. The HP sees the camera in the PC slot but it only sees
the directory and not the individual jpg files. Any
suggestions. How did you get the photos into the HP?

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>I went back to Frye's and tried the 20meg CF and it didn't work.
>I'm wondering if anyone who is using the CF disks is running a doublespeed
>machine?

I am afraid that something is either wrong with your CF adapter or your PCMCIA
slot itself as there are no problems with any of the CF cards and the
doublespeed upgrade that I know of. I even have a 48MB Sandisk CF card here that
works fine.

Cheers,
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Jorgen,

I run a Silicom card and have various batch files to load up
IP, IPX, LanWatch version 4.0, or Etherload V2.0.

Under IP I have Telnet (TN), Ping, FTP, FTPsvr, etc. from PCTCP.
I use IPXODI amd NetX to load up the IPX stack.

If you're interested I've got the lot in a zip file (size about 1MB)
if you're interested in "evaluating" them.

Let me know and I'll send them.

Regards

David Cripps

>So I was thinking that there must be some versions of LANMAN before V.
>2.2c... LANMAN 2.2c can be found on the NT Server 3.51 & 4.0 CD-ROM in
>the Clients directory. My question is now if anyone out there has a copy
>of NT 3.0 Server and could check if an earlier version of LANMAN can be
>found there? Or maybe you have an old copy of LANMAN in your
>collections?
>
>Please let me know, since it could result in serious networking using
>200LX. So far I have been able to get NETBEUI up and running on the
>200LX and I can map drivers and even print to a network printer (from a
>DOS program- such as MS Word for DOS). But I want to do more- TCP/IP.
>
>Thanks and Regards,
>
>Jorgen

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Date:         Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:50:34 -0800
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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Mack Baggette wrote:

> I am afraid that something is either wrong with your CF adapter
Nope, worked fine with that adapter in the thinkpad.

> or your PCMCIA slot itself
That's seems to be the problem.  I ran out east and tried a sanDisk 2.0
meg pcmcia card and it would not work.  I do have a Simple Tech
STI-ATAFL/8   an 8 meg card that works fine.

So my machine is the problem.    Any advice?


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Date:         Sun, 29 Nov 1998 18:55:09 EST
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Patrick,

One other thought.  Did you use the same Compact --> PCMCIA addapter with both
cards?  If so, that could be your problem.

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Win 3.0, word and excel are all available.
only the licence$ are not.
Sorry

> I am currently in contact with MS on making Win 3.0 and Excel and Word
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I have some software that may be of interest to HPLX users.
I have a Lotus Symphony ver 2. This is one of the first integrated office suites. I have full documentation. Will let it go for $20 +shipping.

Also, I have Paradox for DOS ver 3.5. This is a powerful relational database. I have full documentation for this too. Will let it go for $20 + shipping.

Any takers?

Rich

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 02:27:17 +0000
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Can it be done? I will be there in February, on a rented powerboat,
away from telephone lines. I would like to have access to my email,
this list not the least...

Does anyone have experience with a wireless setup, what is needed,
short-term rentals, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Mikhail

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Date:         Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:01:32 -0800
Reply-To:     David Sargeant 
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Subject:      Re: Visual Basic
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Alain wrote:

> Win 3.0, word and excel are all available.
> only the licence$ are not.
> Sorry

I think Hal means he's trying to set it up with Microsoft so Thaddeus can
sell Windows 3.0, Word, and Excel.  Which would be great.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:02:44 -0500
Reply-To:     Bill Partington 
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'll pay handsomely for this software.
Saves buying a different and probably inferior machine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian McIlvaine Ýmailto:bamcilvaine@JUNO.COM¨
Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 8:53 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Outlook Synch Tool


OK, I was toying with the idea of trying to get my synchronizing software
to work. The problem can be demonstrated by the following:

1. Download and compile the adbdump and adbload programs written by
Andreas Garzotto available on SUPER.

2. Go to appointment manager and make a NEW appointment file TEST.ADB.
Put one appointment in, for example, titled ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT,
fill in the other fields, and save the appointment. EXIT appointment
manager, which then saves the complete data file in a fully readable
condition.

3. run ADBDUMP -c -q2 TEST.ADB DUMP.txt. This will work, and generate
quite a nice txt file, with your ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT listed
correctly. So far, so good.

4. run ADBLOAD -q2 DUMP.txt TESTOUT.adb. This will generate an ADB file.
Again, so far, so good.

5. Go into Appointment Manager, and try to load the TESTOUT.adb file. You
will get a "RECORD NOT FOUND" dialog, and your ONE STINKING APPOINTMENT
will not have transferred - IF YOU HAVE A 200LX. It will work with the
100LX.

Here's the deal - If someone can tell me how to correct ADBLOAD to get
the 200 to recognize the file, I will promise (in a Clinton promise kind
of way) to make a program that will take data from Outlook and import
into the appointment file, eliminated dupes, and do the other cool stuff
we need it to do.

Any takers?

Brian
___________________________________________________________________
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Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:39:50 +10
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Are you ready to pay the full price for a software with no support and no
upgrade?
I like to have the licence for softwares I'm using , when they are still alive.
What is the privilege to have the licence of a software with do not exist
anymore.
I own serval licence (including MS product), but I can't have any upgrade for
then.
(win 95 or NT is not an upgrade of win 3.0)
Question, who will help you with word 5.0 for dos  after dec/1999?
regards
Alain
> On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Alain wrote:
>
> > Win 3.0, word and excel are all available.
> > only the licence$ are not.
> > Sorry
>
> I think Hal means he's trying to set it up with Microsoft so Thaddeus can
> sell Windows 3.0, Word, and Excel.  Which would be great.
>


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:44:28 -0500
Reply-To:     Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      OS/2 ver. 1.x for WinNT network, SwatchBEAT program.

        Hello all,

    Someone mentioned that files from OS/2 ver. 1.x Lan Server might
    be the way to solve HP200LX networking under WinNT 3.51/4.0.

    Well I've got M$ OS/2 v. 1.21 Final (disk 1-8 of 8) and IBM LAN
    Support Program v. 1.12 and the LAN Server v 1.2. This comes
    with migration utility and the DOS LAN requester (disk 1-4 of 4).
    Please someone tell me which files should I check on the disks?

    Then I can those to you via e-mail.

    Please replay ASAP, as I've got the disks with me right now and
    a networked PC w/ 5,25" drive, quite hard to come by these days.

    Also, anyone noticed Stefan Peichl's Swatch BEAT time program?
    It's on his  page.
    HPLX must be one of the first platforms to support it! But I'd
    recommend that you wait with download, until he officially anno-
    unces it. That should be right.

                Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:40:37 -0600
Reply-To:     "James P. Grenert" 
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From:         "James P. Grenert" 
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On Sat, 28 Nov 1998, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:
> There should not any beeping sound just because an EXM program is open
> when you turn the palmtop on.  That beep is a signal that there is a
> problem because SysMgr is trying to orient itself after the power on
> and it cannot find some parts of that EXM program that was open when
> the palmtop was shut off.
>
Thanks a lot for the tip.  It seems that I deleted the APNAME.LST file
that was on the root directory of my A: drive.  Now I have in my
AUTOEXEC.BAT file a line copying MOREEXM.INI (same format as APNAME.LST)
to APNAME.LST.  Now, no beeping!

Thanks again!
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:44:41 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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From:         Ed Padin 
Subject:      Re: Foxpro on HPLX

I usually do a "mono8025" and then "mode mono" with the default color set.
It seeems to recognize the fact that it's a mono CGA then and looks fine. Be
aware when you run any programs that switch video modes from within Foxpro
with the "!" command. You will have to issue those commands again before
returning control to Foxpro or you won't be able to see the screen.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Collins Ýmailto:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 9:37 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Foxpro on HPLX
>
>
> Anyone design a good color set for Foxpro on the LX.  I'm
> having a hard time getting the display right.
>
> I also get an error "Cannot find screen/menu generation program"
> when I build.  I downloaded the program off the internet.  Anyone
> know what I'm missing?
>
> Don.
>
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:46:04 -0500
Reply-To:     Ed Padin 
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel and Expanded memory.

I second that. EMM swaps are way faster than plain ol' swapfile.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Saklad Ýmailto:jsaklad@QIS.NET¨
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 9:44 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Software Carousel and Expanded memory.
>
>
> Stan -
>
> SD> Dan, I have heard mixed reviews of whether the SC swap
> file as a disk
> SD> file or Expanded memory is faster.  I think the
> difference is speed is
> SD> tiny either way.
>
> I had a Thaddeus-upgraded 8MD doublespeed unit with SC-6, and
> used EMM for
> the primary swap area.
>
> I then got my other machine Thaddeus-upgraded to 64MB
> doublespeed, with
> SC-7. Swapping seemed slow with just a swapfile on the 64MB
> drive. Many
> attempts with Mack's help left me still unable to set up an
> EMM file on
> the 2MB drive that SC would recognize, so I finally set it up
> on the 64MB
> drive.
>
> For me, swaps are *much* faster now, using EMM, than
> previously, on the
> same machine, with the same version of SC, using a swapFILE.
>
> --
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~~~~~~~
>  Jim Saklad
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:12:28 -0600
Reply-To:     Steve Dowell 
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Subject:      Switching to a running DOS program...

I'm sure I saw where someone mentioned a way to switch from an LX app to
a running DOS program. I believe it had something to do with the blue
keys. Could anyone refresh my memory on this...

TIA,
Steve

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:01:56 -0000
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Hi all

Any one got QEMM and DV (Desqview) working on a 200lx? Is it possible?

--
David Wood :) mailto:d.wood@thermoteknix.co.uk mailto:d.wood@iee.org
work : http://www.thermoteknix.co.uk   Queen's award for Export 1998
play : http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/2640 (updated 3 June 1998)
I try to live one day at a time, but lately several days have attacked me at once.
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:19:41 +0100
Reply-To:     Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Steve Dowell wrote:

> I'm sure I saw where someone mentioned a way to switch from an LX app to
> a running DOS program. I believe it had something to do with the blue
> keys. Could anyone refresh my memory on this...

Ctrl and the Lotus 123 key.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:39:13 -0600
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Hi all,

I foolishly procrastinated when Mitch announced the great
$99 deal on the Citizen PN60i a few months ago.  I'm
interested in buying one, but the cheapest price I've found
on the web is about $400.  Can anyone point me to a better
deal?

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:44:46 -0500
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I still have a spare 14.4 Zoom PKT lying around that someone may have a need
for. This is the best pocket modem I have found. It runs on a single 9V battery
and is just a bit bigger than a pack of cigarettes. It also comes with a custom
modem cable (about 12 inches long) for hooking to the palmtop (DB-9 to HP-10).

I'd like to get around $100 including shipping. Email inquiries off-list.

Mitch
SUPER Team

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:58:34 GMT
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From:         David Becher 
Subject:      Re: Tech: compiling .EXM C++ programs

In message <365DD70D.D49AB01@snafu.de>, Paulo said:
> I am able to do the same with a C++ program, as long as I do not define
> any object with a constructor. I can define classes with constructors,
> but when I define an object of that class, I get the following Turbo
> Linker error:
>
>         Error: Undefined symbol ___BRKLVL in library file \tc\lib\cs.lib in
> module BRK
>         Error: Undefined symbol _ERRNO in library file \tc\lib\cs.lib in module
> BRK
>
> If I do not link the object file tccstart.obj (from NKIT), then the
> program links without errors, but when I try to execute it in the LX, I
> just get 2 beeps.
>

C++ needs startup code which is called by constructors. This startup code is
called by the standard BCC startup code which is in c0s.obj. The only hope
I can give you is to look at the assembler and try to find which code is
called. If I remember correctly, it is linked in automatically whenever
you have c++ code in your program. Along with theis code comes the error
display/reporting code which is why you are getting an indefined symbol for
ERRNO.

This also handles the initialization for the different file handling
(streams etc) in c++ and c. Personally I dont think you will have much luck
unless you really "hack" in there. Someone with the library source of
Borland  C++ might be able to help you.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 19:06:54 +0100
Reply-To:     Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de
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From:         Hermann Kellinghaus 
Subject:      FS: Olympus C-820L dig camera + accessories (Europe)
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Hi

My digital camera is for sale - it's still under European warranty
till March-23-1999.
It's very useful in combination with an HPx00LX palmtop - see below.

Camera:
 Resolution: 1024x768 + 640x480; JPEG high&low compression; lens: 5mm
1:2,8
(equivalent to 35mm on 35mm camera); real image viewfinder + 2" TFT
color LCD display; flash; RS232 and PAL television connector; low
power consumtion; works with any AAs and 6V power supply; Olympus SW
for Win-PC and MAC included;
two Smart-Media cards included (2MB + 8 MB); comes in original
packaging including warranty card, manuals and CD's.
 RS232 interface works with HPx00Lx plus 'photopc' SW (freeware;
appr. 60Kb+20KB).
Pictures (JPEG-Files) can also be loaded via PC-Card-Adaptor into
HPx00LX or PC.
Smart-Media cards (with adaptor) can be used on HPx00LX like
flash-cards.
 All this for only DM 800,- plus shipping.

Smart-Media/PC-Card-Adaptor:
 for Smart-Media 2MB to 8MB: only DM 120,- plus shipping.

Olympus Smart-Media Floppy-Disk Adaptor:
 Smart-Media 2MB to 16MB can be read and written like a Floppy on a
Win PC.
 only DM 150,-

I have upgraded my equipment, so I don't need 'my 820L' anymore.
For any questions (even if you don't want to buy) please mail
directly to me (not to the list) - thanks for your interest.

Sincerely
 Hermann

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:44:24 +0100
Reply-To:     Tomas Moberg 
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Subject:      Network:NT4, TCP/IP and firewalls
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This network stuff is realy interesting.
Is there any knowlege on the following problems with networking on the
hp200lx with a NT4 server using TCP/IP:

* DHCP (Dynamic Host Configuration Protocoll,to get a IP adress)
with a NT4 server. We do not use Bootp.

* How do I get past the firewall (we do have a proxy for that, but how
do I set it up on the hp?) With www/lx, wattcp etc

* Well, how do I mount my drives and printers on our NT4 network?



      /tomas moberg
                       Uppsala

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:08:48 EST
Reply-To:     tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" 
Organization: Business Division - TCC VB
Subject:      Re: NECX PCMCIA reader conflicts.

> Who is SCM and where are they located (web site?)?
> What is the model that you are currently using?
>
>

SCM is the company that makes these adaptors. They also make a quite
popular model called the SwapBox. They have a web site but I don't
remember its exact URL. Someone on the Libretto list found some
information on these cards, you might want to check the libretto list
archives. Do a search for adorable libretto and you will find a site
that has a link to the archive then search the archive for necx or
pcmcia adaptor.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:12:29 -0600
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Subject:      Frame Relay monitoring with an HP200 (a request for info)
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Are any of you using your HP for work related to Frame Relay?  What are
you up to and how are you doing it?

Frame Relay has just become a factor in my "world" and I would like to
be able to check Frame connections and sample the traffic on the
network.

Comments, fluff and technical information are all warmly welcome.

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Date:         Mon, 30 Nov 1998 22:29:07 GMT
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Addressed to: "Blah...Just Blah.." 
              HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu

** Reply to note from "Blah...Just Blah.."  Thu, 2=
6 Nov 1998 23:10:18 -0500
Hello

Just a small note to give francois a BIG BIG thank you :-))

I now have the card working.... how could I postpone sending
a note to the list when at first attempt I got everything working ?

First I tried on my own and banged my head against the wall a couple times,
then I exchanged a couple mails to the M-Systems tech support guys and
although they tried their best, they were useless, they sent me some files =
but
none of them made the card work... more banging against the wall :-)

When I finally got myself to write to the list, I got a reply the next day =
and lo
and behold, right on the money !!

Thanks for all the help !

> ftp://ftp.m-sys.com/pub/PCMCI321.ZIP
>
> it has all the drivers for this type of card, i use the ones in the tffs8=
086
> directory on my 200lx... m-sys was totally useless while i was looking fo=
r
> them, but they had it the whole time.
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 1998 at 11:11:03PM +0000, Shafik Mahomad wrote:
> > I'm having trouble setting up an smallish Flash card from M-Systems,
> > the card says it supports trueFFS (Whatever that is), my question is :
> >
ÝSnipped¨

Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:49:31 -0700
Reply-To:     Dan Sommer 
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Subject:      Re: Software Carousel and Expanded memory.
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How do you find out how much memory a particular program needs to run?

-----Original Message-----
From:   Stanley Dobrowski ÝSMTP:stanleyd@CARROLL.COM¨
Sent:   Saturday, November 28, 1998 1:53 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: Software Carousel and Expanded memory.

Dan, I have heard mixed reviews of whether the SC swap file as a disk
file or Expanded memory is faster.  I think the difference is speed is
tiny either way.

Personally, I find it simplier and cleaner to just let SC make a disk
file on the C: drive for the swap space.

You can probably do more to improve your swap times by not making the
SC sessions any larger than they need to be to run the program you
have in them.  For example, if in session 2 you are runing XYZ program
and it needs 300K to run, then there is no point in making a 520K
session for it.  With the smaller RAM allotment, that session will
swap in/out faster.


Stan

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Date:         Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:52:28 -0700
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I don't know about the vertical black bar on the right side but I do =
know that you need to widen pictures by approximately 19% for them to =
have a natural appearance on the palmtop. You also need to make a =
negative of the picture.  Other than that I think a 640 X 200 pixel PCX =
file works fine.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Donald Collins ÝSMTP:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨
Sent:   Saturday, November 28, 1998 3:09 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Making Topcards

Does anyone know the process needed to create topcards?

I know they are standard PCX files but there is some type of
cropping and stretching involved. (read that somewhere)

The topcards I've created have a black vertical bar on the
far right side.

Don.

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