========================================================================= Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:50:38 -0700 Reply-To: Adam Phipps Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adam Phipps Hi, I am trying to find a program to run on my 200LX that will calculate (estimate) tides. I have been searching the net but have had no luck. I am looking for something I can enter the data for my area and it will calculate the data for the next month at least. Has any got something like this? Regards Adam Phipps aphipps@csr.com.au Sydney, Australia -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:08:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: Vivek Venugopalan In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980930235246.009d0008@popmail.mcs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, Vivek Venugopalan wrote: > Drop him a line of encouragement I am sure that will keep the guy going. I already have and I encourage everyone else to also. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:50:16 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just a question; Why running MINIX or ELKS Linux on the palmtop? Is it you don't like DOS/ regards Alain Al Wyn@alphalink.com.au Melbourne / Australia http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:09:46 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Re: Radio Shack has $12 for 2 NimH AAs Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli In-Reply-To: <199810010231.WAA15872@moon.web2000.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 30 Sep 1998 22:31:32 -0400, you wrote: >Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:36:23 -0400 (EDT) > >04h14m08s ago ... >On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, arthur hu wrote: > >> Has anyone else noticed that Radio Shack now as NiMH AA's for >> $12 for two? > >These showed up in the local RS stores last December. Bought a pair >then, and used 'em for about 6 months before going back to the RS >hi-capacity NiCads. I actually got only about 70% of the time I had >with the Nicads. (From the 1200 mAHr rating, I hoped for about 45-50% >more). Hope you get better results than I had. 8-) > >-Peniel >------------ > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Some battery types are better than others, or in the case of my NiMH batteries I interrupt the FAST charge and restart charging after six hours to get the maximum life... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:43:16 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: QEMM 8 Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Has anyone had experience with QEMM on 200LX? Will it work? I just > discovered that I have this program in my literal DOS box. > > Mikhail > It'll "work", but it won't do anything. Lx has no ems, no upper memory, = no xms. Only 640k of "base" memory. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:13:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Stacker Question Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" In-Reply-To: <199809302333.SAA29587@sh1.ro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:33 PM 9/30/98 -0500, you wrote: >I use a ST 160MB FLASH disk with my 200LX. To date, I have been using >it uncompressed, but want to start using Stacker on it. I have a copy >of Stacker that was provided with my old ACE DoubleFlash card. As I >dug up the old manual and read through it, there is a reported limit of >80MB. Is this a limit of Stacker itself, or just that an 80MB DoubleFlash >was the largest that ACE sold at the time (Sep 94)? > >-Chris Lott > I don't think 80MB is a stacker limit, so try the 160MB and see if it works. Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:21:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: from "Alain" at Oct 1, 98 03:50:16 pm Content-Type: text > Why running MINIX or ELKS Linux on the palmtop? > Is it you don't like DOS/ Just speaking for myself, I put up with DOS because it's readily available and IMHO far better than the sissy GUI mess that sells so well to the general population, and thus forced on everyone. A few years back, I worked on a project for two years that required I use UNIX. It was a steep learning curve, but I found it far superior to the DOS machines I had been using all these years. Now I'm back to DOS/Windows, but I have as many UNIX-flavored tools on my desktop and palmtop as I possibly can. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:26:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Jeff et al. Of what use in minox on the LX? What will it do that can't be done now? Semper Mobilis, yor (curious) pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:43:40 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Frans Veldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: MESSAGE-ID field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Battery questions Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net In-Reply-To: <199809301616.JAA26281@ftel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:16 AM 9/30/98 -0700, you wrote: >Frans, > > > The problem with this charging ceremony is that for some reason, people > > keep thinking that battery voltage is an idication how full the batteries > > are. IT IS NOT!!! I haven't seen a proper charging program for the LX yet, > > and I wonder why. Maybe programmers don't have to much understanding of > > electronics, and electronics experts don't know to much about programming. > >We discussed it and I asked you if you'd be willing to work with us. I have Ok, I thought that the final statement was that it wasn't possible on the LX. I'm glad to here that there might be a way to realize a better way of charging the LX! >not heard since. Perhaps the delta-U method you propose is not anything we >can utilise on the palmtop. There were some pretty good brains involved in >making ABC/LX, nor just some moron programmer ... I didn't suggest that. > > to stop. The absolute voltage of course can be anything, but it doesn't > > mean anything. It is the *relative* voltage which is important. > >All good and well, IF you can get this information reliably from the palmtop >circuitry. You can only measure the absolute voltage, but there is nothing to prevent you from calculating the first derivate of the curve. :-) >I find your characterization of "correct" or incorrect to be a bit of a >stretch. Your method has some fatal flaws as well, and I am sure there is Is that so? I haven't found any during the time I'm using such chargers. >plenty of physics and chemistry to point out these flaws. That would esily As far as I know these methods are even used in satellites. (You know, these things have batteries which are charged and decharged numerous times per day (in polar satellites like the NOAA weather birds) and they lasts for many years. Try to do that with the current charging algorithms available for the LX. :-( > > Maybe I will write such a program some day myself, if time permits. I have > > been building chargers myself, and my batteries never wear out. I even > > brought "defective" batteries from other people back to live with the > > charger. It is quite a frustration to only have a charger mechanism for the > > LX which goes against all rules of charging NiCD and NiMH cells. > >Once again, this time publicly: I invite you to work with us on that. If >ABC/LX version 2 can be made better - I welcome this with open arms. That would be great. Ok, the next two weeks I'm moving to a new house, so I probably won't even read the newsgroup. After that I will forward you some information. Regards, Frans -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:01:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Johnson Subject: Next appointment question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm sorry if this is old hat for everyone, but: Is there any way to make an appointment which runs a program invisible to the "Next Appointment" field? Seeing an appointment "||9" as the next appointment isn't too useful to me. I'd rather see me next "real" appointment. I couldn't find this in the manual, if it's there would some kind soul point me to the page? Thanks, Rob HP200lx Rules! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:07:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: On Netscape&Intel backing Radhat and ELKS Linux. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I disagree about dos not trapping interrupts, it wouldn't actually >run if it didn't, but I will agree it is easier to get around. Not in the same way as CE. DOS lets you just go ahead and change the address to which an interrupt will be routed, effectively cutting off the BIOS and DOS from real world input just by writing a few bytes to memory. Once CE is running, it is rather protective of this particular memory area - and each processor implements this differently as well. >On my >velo1 getting around CE would almost be as easy. The ce20 upgrade >actually installs itself into memory from a rom card that lives in >the flash ram socket. As far as I know, all CE machines are made sort of this way. (I've got 7 or 8 models in my CE junk box). Most, however, just have a custom circuit board - which you'd have to manufacture - with flash and a custom connector on board. >You should be able, with a little work, to have >any OS, written for the hardware and risc microcode, running from a >flash card. I also wonder about the rewiting it for each platform. Well, the issue is not processor instructions, but determining exactly where each bit of hardware resides on a particular platform. Unlike the PC world, there is no standard location for the serial port, timers, interrupt vectors, the screen, etc. Processors may or may not have the concept of IO space, as well. I agree that the bulk of the code would be common, but since you probably won't get a lot of cooperation from the manufacturers, you're going to have to figure out hardware locations all on your own. You'd have to know 1) who's "super IO" chip they used (there are a bunch out there) 2) where they decided to put it in memory space 3) what shortcuts and design compromises they made. Without docs, this is not an easy thing... to the point where I would not attempt it (and I build custom WinCE O/S images and write WinCE device drivers for my real job). >The idea behind a risc processor is that the microcode that runs >directly on the cpu will then present a common interface to the upper >levels. I would think that wince is probably written to the abstract >upper level, not the actual hardware. That only leaves the difference >between mips and hitachi processors, plus a couple of others coming >up. In addition to the above, the currently supported list of processors is: ARM x86 PPC MIPS SHx rick -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:09:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU On 10-01 12:50am, the following was written: > Just a question; > Why running MINIX or ELKS Linux on the palmtop? > Is it you don't like DOS/ No.... I do like DOS, but I'm a UNIX geek , and besides, it's just one more cool way to amaze your friends and family with the palmtop. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:13:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM On 10-01 07:26am, the following was written: > Jeff et al. > Of what use in minox on the LX? > What will it do that can't be done now? For me, at least, it's just the fact that I can do it. UNIX does have many adavantages over DOS, the first one that comes to mind is long file names (yes, I know 4DOS can do this). I don't really have a need for Windows on my LX, but it's nice to have. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:38:33 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alexander Stanovoy Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alexander Stanovoy Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: al chin In-Reply-To: <19981001.072727.13758.1.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As example it can be Secure Shell(SSH). More ways to use this small toy for administering UNIX servers. to write compatible to other UNIX'es programs... And also HPLX become the best TOY FOR HACKERS... ;) A. On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, al chin wrote: > Jeff et al. > Of what use in minox on the LX? > What will it do that can't be done now? > > Semper Mobilis, > yor (curious) pal al :) ............. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Alexander Stanovoy Internet and Intranet services developer and administrator Lietelija Ltd., Juozapaviciaus 6/2, Vilnius 2005, Lithuania Phone: +370-2-730970; FAX:+370-2-730959; Mobile:+370-99-14421 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:42:03 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , greg@NCD.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Greg Renda Subject: Re: Rock eBook In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Sep 98 14:10:12 EDT." The Rocket eBook is made by NuvoMedia, a company started by a couple of friends of mine. You can get more information at www.nuvomedia.com. The texts themselves are in an encrypted format. When you buy one you provide a key to your particular Rocket eBook. That unlocks the text for reading only on that Rocket eBook. So unless you have a Rocket eBook you're out of luck. -Greg -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:22:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: Battery questions (LONG, but interesting) Comments: To: Jim Saklad Comments: cc: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Jim Saklad wrote: > On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Longden Loo wrote: > LL> I have a 6mb/2x LX and use ABC/LX. > I have a Thaddeus-upgraded 8MB doublespeed. I have a 5MB/2X 200LX. > LL> On the average, I get about five hours according to ABC/LX from my > LL> T2T 1300mAh batteries, tho I've gotten as much as seven. I also > LL> use a 40mb Simple Tech flash card. > I have an 80MB Simple Tech flash card. I have a 40MB Simple Tech flash card, and I also have a 20 MB HP/Sundisk card. I have been using the T2T NiMH batteries with each. > I was getting too short battery life also, until I started leaving my > Simple Tech card OUT. I have yet to perform definitive testing, but my > suspicion is that it does not drop down to its 0.6ma "sleep" current when > it is supposed to. > I am a little annoyed that when this subject came up some months ago, that the response (from a Simple Tech vendor) was that Simple Tech cards draw less current than Sandisk ones. Or something like that- the point was that I was given the impression that there was no tradeoff in using a Simple Tech card. While it may be true that Simple Tech cards use less current on reads and writes (which I have no idea about), I believe the above assertion is correct, or close to it, and that disabling sleep is much more damaging than any compensation by reduced current draw during reads/writes. Here's my evidence: When I was using the HP/Sundisk card, I got around 10-12 hours battery life with the T2T NiMH batteries. I wanted a larger card, and speed tests by members of this list indicated that Simple Tech cards, despite being much less costly, were over twice as fast as Sandisk ones. Ironically, at the time, someone offered me some consolation that although my costly HP card was slower, perhaps it drew less current. Well, I bought the Simple Tech card, and I was (and still am) very happy with the speed. I have been busy with many other things lately, and I never realized until the above posting that my battery life has dropped off to about 5-6 hours (down to the dreaded color CE palmtop battery life level). One other thing that I noticed, is that there is a change in the "you've won" screen of the palmtop game Freecell by Curtis Cameron. Back when I used my HP card, the flying cards on that display would move very slowly unless I had the AC adapter plugged in. This indicated to me that the cards moved slowly unless some type of lite sleep was shut off, which is what happens when the AC adapter is plugged in. Lately, the cards move quickly regardless of whether or not I am plugged into AC. I attributed this to a newer version of Freecell which I had recently downloaded. However, after reading the above posting, I tried an experiment. I moved my FREECELL.EXE file from the Simple Tech flash card to the C: drive. Now, when I have the Simple Tech card plugged in, the cards move quickly. Without a card, or with my HP card plugged in, the cards move slowly. Interestingly, LXSTAT reports that Lite Sleep is enabled when I have the Simple Tech card in. Perhaps the catch is that this card never allows the LX to actually START Lite Sleep. Anyway, I'm debating which is more important: Speed and storage capacity, or battery life. Your mileage may vary, but if you have a Simple Tech card, try it out. Of course, you have to win your Freecell game to get to the ending screen. :) Just don't take it for granted that a faster flash card can be found without some sort of tradeoff. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:26:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Can't extract Goin' Postal file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I hope this hasn't been asked before (or at least not recently). I am trying to extract the Goin' Postal files by running GP2R4.EXE. It never works, and I have gotten a number of error messages, the most common being "Rename to GP2R4.EXE." Of course, that already _is_ the name. I've tried exiting SysManager, and this doesn't help either. What the heck am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:11:29 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: CPACK Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > They're on super > Surch on cp* > it's got a funny name > can't remember. Really useful. CPACK is a commercial product by HP. Duh! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:11:21 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Success Rate of Thaddeus Memory Upgrades... A Question. Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Brendan, > Will HP ever give the hpDOSlx this much attention again? Only once > WinCE dies, economic rationalism is disproven, and hell freezes over. I saw fish come out of the water and climb trees yesterday. Is this a sufficient omen? :) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:11:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Help on 64MB Upgrade Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > In our advertisement we underpromise. 8 Meg Palmtops get 8 Meg. But 32 > and 64 Meg palmtops get an extra 1 or 2 meg. Precisely! You should have a cadre of happy customers banging your doors down, offering to pay more for the extra, unpromised-but-delivered storage ;-) Phew! Glad the lob I sent was received precisely as meant. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:11:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mikhail: > I find just the opposite. For social reasons, I belong to another list > where members are fairly unsophisticated in terms of communication, > email or otherwise. It is amusing to watch them flame some hapless > soul requesting that they not quote entire digests in "I agree!"-type > messages. > > Mikhail > > > Most times, I find them receptive to > > any suggestion of improvement in their communication. Of course, there is > > always a parasite out there who gets indignant. You can push the DEL button on > > him. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > I agree. You mean like this? :) Watch me get flamed. My only defense is I did not add the array of headers to the quotation above! ;-) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:33:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH" Subject: Re: Magnifying the LX screen Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <199809301616.JAA26268@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi, will Magnify work in DOS programs? - Danny > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A. > Meshar > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 12:16 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Magnifying the LX screen > > > Peter, > > > It advertises a stick on plastic magnifier for fixing on to maps, > > telephone directories. They sent me a free sample which I use > to magnify > > the screen. I find it particularly useful for magnifying the text in > > Info Select windows. > > Check out www.dasoft.com and click on the magnifying lens or > follow the link > to Products and check Magnify. We sell this commercial product. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:41:03 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: pocket modem - more info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_073A_01BDED49.83F66340" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_073A_01BDED49.83F66340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Since a fairly large group asked the same question about the pocket = modem, I thought I'd post it: the USR Worldport 96/24 Battery Operated Pocket Fax/Modem (USR-9624-PKT) = is: 9600 baud fax 2400 baud modem 9V battery 25 pin serial connector RJ-11 jack telephone interface size: 1in x 4.5in x 2.5in No real documentation with the unit. The sales guy can tell me no more. = I checked the 3com web site, but a search turns up nothing on this = product. Please email me if you want to buy. thx rick ------=_NextPart_000_073A_01BDED49.83F66340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Since a fairly large = group asked the=20 same question about the pocket modem, I thought I'd post = it:
 
the USR Worldport 96/24 = Battery=20 Operated Pocket Fax/Modem (USR-9624-PKT) is:
 
9600 baud = fax
2400 baud = modem
9V battery
25 pin serial connector
RJ-11 jack telephone = interface
size: 1in x 4.5in x 2.5in
 
No real documentation with the unit. = The sales guy=20 can tell me no more. I checked the 3com web site, but a search turns up = nothing=20 on this product.
 
Please email me if you want to = buy.
 
thx
rick
------=_NextPart_000_073A_01BDED49.83F66340-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:58:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Simple tech cards (was Battery questions) Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ahh, seems I have the same problem. I just switched from a 10 meg sandisk card, that would give me good battery use on nicads for several days. My new card is a simple tech 48 meg compact flash. Now my battery life as dropped to a couple of hours, maybe 3 hours before it drops below 2.4 volts. I also did a double speed upgrade at the same time, but I think that the battery life is way too short for just that being the cause. The lite sleep mode, or the card not dropping to standby power must be the problem... -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments) http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:02:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Re: Can't extract Goin' Postal file Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't used this program. I suggest you download it again, sometimes when files are downloaded they get corrupted. -Tim -----Original Message----- From: James P. Grenert To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 11:04 AM Subject: Can't extract Goin' Postal file >Hi. >I hope this hasn't been asked before (or at least not recently). I am >trying to extract the Goin' Postal files by running GP2R4.EXE. It never >works, and I have gotten a number of error messages, the most common being >"Rename to GP2R4.EXE." Of course, that already _is_ the name. I've tried >exiting SysManager, and this doesn't help either. > >What the heck am I doing wrong? > >Thanks for any help. >J. P. Grenert >grenert@mayo.edu > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:02:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Latch is called? I've had the same latch problem that many have solved w/ rubber bands, etc. The spring behind the latch is broken and the palmtop won't stay shut. I'm on the phone w/ HP right now, ordering the maintenance kit, and 1) the latch isn't in it and 2) they can't find a way to let me buy either the latch or a spring that could go behind it. Anyone got a part number or way to get one? I don't want to pay any corp's $100+ overall-repair fee for a $5 latch! At least the kit is on the way, so I can replace some feet, have parts around ... etc. TIA --tim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:26:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Can't extract Goin' Postal file Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, James P. Grenert wrote: > I hope this hasn't been asked before (or at least not recently). I am > trying to extract the Goin' Postal files by running GP2R4.EXE. It never > works, and I have gotten a number of error messages, the most common being > "Rename to GP2R4.EXE." Of course, that already _is_ the name. I've tried > exiting SysManager, and this doesn't help either. > > What the heck am I doing wrong? Are you using ? If so, this is used to extract a message in ascii test form to a predefined directory. Mine for example is c:\gp\decode if this isn't what you are speaking of let me know and I'll try to be of assistance. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:32:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Free CPACK gone Ýstill want it¨ Hi All, WHAT about a guy who bought the C-PACK from .... EduCALC.... And his disks are bad? I've still got the receipt Ýand the floppies¨. Sigh. HP's mobile support desk, said Ýwithout a hint of sarcasm¨, "If you bought it from EduCALC, you'll have to get support from EduCALC...I'll be glad to get you a part number; so you can order it from us..." Ack! --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:50:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: More Latch Q's Still on the phone w/ var. HP folks... AND, I've just learned that I can't buy the 200LX latch separately .... they (HP tech spt.) think they can reduce the standard $275 'standard strip fee'. But, he isn't totally sure by how much. NOW I *see* why so many members of this list are stuffing rubber bands in there (it didn't work when I tried it ... too small a rubber band). How can HP make such a wonderful machine Ýthe 200LX¨ and then provide such usurious support - are they trying to punish the non-CE users out there? << he wasn't thrilled to hear that I'd gone to a 3rd party for my upgrade either .... but later did mention the same 3d party (Thaddeus) as an alternative... >> I did finally get a part # for the latch: F1060-40015, but they will sell this only to an authorized dealer or distributor... Anyone on the list able to buy one; and, how hard is it to put in myself ÝÝ or should I send it off to Thaddeus now, and quit complaining/end my headaches ;-) ¨¨ TIA --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:21:44 +0100 Reply-To: abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Antonio Queiroz Menezes Subject: Connecting to a desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Hi, Does anyone know if there is such a thing as a data switch for the serial port in the desktop? I didn=B4t had a desktop, only a notebook, but my bank was making an irrecusable offer on the HP Brio's line for anyone who signed up for its internet banking service and I bought one. At the same time I changed my phone line to ISDN and had to buy a digital modem which uses the serial port. With the notebook I connected the HP 200LX with a flash card, but the HP Brio has no PCard port and only one serial port (I know, I shoul have bought an internal PCI ISDN card but didn=B4t). Now I would like to have the HP 200LX cable and the ISDN modem attached at the same time to the serial port with a switch to change between them. Is that possible? TIA Antonio --------------------------------------------------------- Antonio Queiroz Menezes M.Sc. (Econo) Porto - Portugal abmenezes@mail.telepac.pt AntonioMenezes@compuserve.com menezesantonio@netscape.net "Natura non facit saltum" - Alfred Marshall 1890 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:35:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rodger N. Bird II" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rodger N. Bird II" Subject: Re: Simple tech cards (was Battery questions) Comments: To: "Tim S." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went from a 10 meg Sandisk to a 40 meg Simple Tech. My 40 meg Simple Tech is much better than 3 hours. With the larger card I use system Manager less and boot to DOS. Buddy's battery use gauge does not work in DOS.=20 I'm guessing that I get 1/2 the battery life now. Rodger ---------- From: Tim S.ÝSMTP:pacific@CASTLES.COM¨ Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:58 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Simple tech cards (was Battery questions) Ahh, seems I have the same problem. I just switched from a 10 meg = sandisk card, that would give me good battery use on nicads for several = days. My new card is a simple tech 48 meg compact flash. Now my battery life = as dropped to a couple of hours, maybe 3 hours before it drops below 2.4 = volts. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:39:15 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: <199810011221.HAA26433@sh1.ro.com> from "R. Christopher Lott" at Oct 1, 98 07:21:30 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Now I'm back to DOS/Windows, but I have as many > UNIX-flavored tools on my desktop and palmtop as I possibly can. I think it's time for another list of your favourite DOS-versions of unix tools. To start off simply, I have (non-exhaustively): vi - calvin 46k, vim (ver 3) 235k (pklited, I think!) ls.bat @echo off @dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4 -- Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 AUSTRALIA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:13:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: More Latch Q's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> We (at Thaddeus Computing) have the same problem. There is no such thing at least in the U.S. as an authorized dealer to buy palmtop parts. We usually have to cannibalize other units that we buy (although in interests of full disclosure about a year and a half ago HP did send us some parts). That is one of the reasons why we ended up with one flat fee $125, large repair or small -- unavailability of parts. For example, for screens, we made a big buy on 1000CX's -- many with broken hinge -- so we use those screens. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:37:53 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Rock eBook Comments: To: greg@NCD.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-01 13:12:20 EDT, you write: << The texts themselves are in an encrypted format. When you buy one you provide a key to your particular Rocket eBook. That unlocks the text for reading only on that Rocket eBook. >> PLEASE advise your friends that they need to devise a 200lx application. I can see no reason why they couldn't accomplish their end while allowing use on one individual lx. (A WinCE solution is also advisable.) If they don't provide a solution for honest people, someone will hack a decripter all the sooner. Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:21:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Free CPACK gone Ýstill want it¨ Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >WHAT about a guy who bought the C-PACK from .... >EduCALC.... >And his disks are bad? >I've still got the receipt Ýand the floppies¨. >Sigh. HP's mobile support desk, said Ýwithout a hint of sarcasm¨, "If you >bought it from EduCALC, you'll have to get support from EduCALC...I'll be >glad to get you a part number; so you can order it from us..." > >Ack! COME ON HP! Did you not receive any profit from this sale? You'd think they would support their products and customers better than this. Owen -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:33:36 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: More Latch Q's Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >How can HP make such a wonderful machine Ýthe 200LX¨ and then provide such >usurious support - are they trying to punish the non-CE users out there? ><either ... Then he should get his company to "thrill" us by upgrading the whole box don't you think. But we've discussed this before and it's just not to be. Sorry I don't have an answer for you about the latch. I've had my 200lx since 1994 and never have had latch probs.(knock on some wood :)) Owen -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:50:32 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Re: Free CPACK gone Ýstill want it¨ Comments: To: Owen Samuelson In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981001222109.006934d8@pop.hom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:21:09 -0400, you wrote: >>WHAT about a guy who bought the C-PACK from .... >>EduCALC.... >>And his disks are bad? >>I've still got the receipt Ýand the floppies¨. >>Sigh. HP's mobile support desk, said Ýwithout a hint of sarcasm¨, "If = you >>bought it from EduCALC, you'll have to get support from EduCALC...I'll = be >>glad to get you a part number; so you can order it from us..." >> >>Ack! > >COME ON HP! Did you not receive any profit from this sale? You'd think = they >would support their products and customers better than this. > >Owen > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Most multinationals corporations support customer loyalty only for repeat buying of their newer products.=20 Example: Your favorite palmtop computer does not sell as well as it once did, so service and support business models reflect sales etc.=20 These companies rely on herd mentality...=20 Anarchy! YEA YEA! Monopolies suck! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:49:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Wong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Wong Subject: cc:mail info In-Reply-To: <01BF0C33.6C790880@am001-32.dialip.mich.com> from "Rodger N. Bird II" at Oct 1, 99 05:35:57 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Are there any references available about the format of the cc:Mail datafiles? (*.msg, inbox.{ccm,fld}, etc.) Thanks, Eric -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:39:18 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Wilhelm.Koehne-Igel@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wilhelm Kvhne Subject: DBase III Colors - Config.db MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT I get the best results with COLOR = W/B/I -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:40:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Flash disk formatting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all. saw some posts a while back about formatting flash disks and getting more usable space from them. My question is, what do most people do? What size sectors, etc. I have a new 48mb and I of course always need more space. I couldn't afford a 224mb, unless I win the lottery. And, how best to go about doing this for someone not so well versed in dos? mucho dave -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:01:07 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: <199810012139.HAA20701@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: > > Now I'm back to DOS/Windows, but I have as many > > UNIX-flavored tools on my desktop and palmtop as I possibly can. This is what I do as well. I don't think the LX is a viable platform for Minix (or Elks), there simply isn't enough memory in 640kb to run a decent UNIX system with several programs running at the same time. IIRC, the guy who managed to get Minix running on the LX himself noted that it barely had enough memory boot. "UNIX in your hand" (TM) would be nice, but it isn't going to happen on the LX unless someone finds a clever way of making more than 640kb availiable. > I think it's time for another list of your favourite DOS-versions of > unix tools. > > To start off simply, I have (non-exhaustively): > > > vi - calvin 46k, vim (ver 3) 235k (pklited, I think!) I have calvin as well, but I rarely use it. The 'vi' way of doing things just doesn't appeal to me... > ls.bat > @echo off > @dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4 Do you have an l.bat and ll.bat as well? I use an ls clone I found somewhere (probably either Garbo or Simtel). As for other UNIX utilities, I have these (among others): df - a df clone in just 247 bytes! Even Jorgen Dybdahl would appreciate the small size of this! ;-) rm, mv, cp - just good clones of these standard UNIX utilities. xgrep - the smallest grep implementation I've ever seen. Just 3.5kb (and 800 bytes of that is the built-in help screen). Very fast too. You can get it from S.U.P.E.R GNU less - my favourite text viewer. It does run a bit slowly on the LX, though. I have some UNIX programming languages/text processing utilities as well, such as sed, awk, and perl, although I rarely use sed or awk any more. For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, but many other people have added features to it since (found on SimTel I think). I used 4DOS for a while, and it works nicely on the LX. However, since it has to swap to disk every time it has to run an external command it runs a bit slowly. I imagine it will be faster if you use EMS. (BTW. for those who don't know what Garbo is, it is a software repository much like Simtel. It is located in Finland, and the address is http://garbo.uwasa.fi) Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:10:52 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Oct 2, 98 09:01:07 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > UNIX-flavored tools on my desktop and palmtop as I possibly can. > > it's time for another list of your favourite DOS-versions of unix tools. > The 'vi' way of doing things just doesn't appeal to me... I know what you mean... you have to develop a certain sensibility... or lack thereof. :) > > ls.bat > > @echo off > > @dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4 > > Do you have an l.bat and ll.bat as well? What's l & ll? (revealing my non-geekhood) I know, I know, I should use aliases. Quick teaser: if you set your path to empty, and instead made an explicit alias for every executable that would otherwise be in your path, how much faster would programs be invoked? :) + no need to search over non-executables (no path hashing in DOS, I believe); + no directory entry/exit overhead times + the search algorithm for DOS is surely the worst brute-force implementation that you could imagine. > rm, mv, cp - just good clones of these standard UNIX utilities. Do you really use the extra functionality that much? Are there hidden advantages to the unix versions of these very basic utilities, or is it purely a familiarity issue? > xgrep - the smallest grep implementation I've ever seen. Just 3.5kb (and > 800 bytes of that is the built-in help screen). Very fast too. Wow! I thought the grep that came with turbo C was pretty good - but it's 7k long! 3.5k saved is 3.5k RAM bought. Maybe I'll have to try this xgrep thing... > I have some UNIX programming languages/text processing utilities as well, > such as sed, awk, and perl, although I rarely use sed or awk any more. So, you're using perl a fair bit? It's version 4 that runs in DOS, isn't it? I found it *really* slow - depends on what you're doing of course. Sed15 is *so* much faster (factor of 3) for simple reg exp stuff. It also compiles right out of the box for everything I've tried (decstation, linux, DOS). So my scripts run 100% the same across platforms. > For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, > but many other people have added features to it since (found on SimTel I > think). Does this have history completion? wced is still the winner here I feel. Not even tcsh has this! (bugs me) Do you know of a unix shell that does have it? Brendan "strong espresso solves most problems" Macmillan -- Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Ecommerce (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:06:10 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: <199810020810.SAA05715@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: > > > ls.bat > > > @echo off > > > @dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4 > > > > Do you have an l.bat and ll.bat as well? > What's l & ll? (revealing my non-geekhood) I know, I know, I should use > aliases. Erm, l and ll are standard ls aliases: alias l 'ls -F' # same as ls, except append a slash to directories alias ll 'ls -l' # roughly the same as DOS' dir. You don't know these? > Quick teaser: if you set your path to empty, and instead made an > explicit alias for every executable that would otherwise be in your > path, how much faster would programs be invoked? :) > + no need to search over non-executables (no path hashing in DOS, > I believe); > + no directory entry/exit overhead times > + the search algorithm for DOS is surely the worst brute-force > implementation that you could imagine. This may be faster, but it will eat a lot of environment (or whatever is used for storing aliases). Of course by doing this you assume that your command line interpreter doesn't use the same poor search implementation as MS-DOS... Besides, the path on my LX is fairly short, \bin and a few others. > > rm, mv, cp - just good clones of these standard UNIX utilities. > Do you really use the extra functionality that much? Are there hidden > advantages to the unix versions of these very basic utilities, or is > it purely a familiarity issue? Mostly familiarity and cp could just as easily be an alias to copy. However I do use 'rm -rf' sometimes to kill directories and when I use mv I think "move", not "rename". > > xgrep - the smallest grep implementation I've ever seen. Just 3.5kb (and > > 800 bytes of that is the built-in help screen). Very fast too. > Wow! I thought the grep that came with turbo C was pretty good - but > it's 7k long! 3.5k saved is 3.5k RAM bought. Maybe I'll have to try > this xgrep thing... It's very good, believe me. It also has such nice features as being able to recurse directories (when searching). No other grep I've seen can do that. Xgrep has crashed on me a few times under Win95, but hey, what doesn't? :-) > > I have some UNIX programming languages/text processing utilities as well, > > such as sed, awk, and perl, although I rarely use sed or awk any more. > > So, you're using perl a fair bit? It's version 4 that runs in DOS, > isn't it? Yup, it is. It is supposedly compiled for 286, but as it doesn't use protected mode, it works just fine on the LX. As the guy who ported Perl to DOS noted, there is a lot of unused code the executable (things having to do with multitasking and UNIX). The executable could probably be made smaller and faster by removing the unneeded gunk. > I found it *really* slow - depends on what you're doing of course. Sed15 > is *so* much faster (factor of 3) for simple reg exp stuff. It also > compiles right out of the box for everything I've tried (decstation, > linux, DOS). So my scripts run 100% the same across platforms. I don't think speed is that bad unless you use Perl's built-in fileglobbing features (ie "while (<*.c> { ... }"), which is _very_ slow. That is because Perl uses the external utility perlglob.exe for globbing and that means it has to shell out to run it, which is _slow_... I do use sed for simple search'n'replace stuff. However, doing mathematics in sed is not trivial (it can be done, but it is very slow and actually quite silly). Also, Perl can handle binary files (which neither Awk or Sed can) and I find this useful. > > For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, > > but many other people have added features to it since (found on SimTel I > > think). > Does this have history completion? wced is still the winner here I > feel. Not even tcsh has this! (bugs me) Do you know of a unix shell > that does have it? Nope, it doesn't have history completion, unfortunately... I did try Wced once, but didn't like it for some reason. Also, the keys are more user-definable in CMDEDIT. As for a UNIX shell that has history completion, I wouldn't be surprised if zsh had it. However, I'm a tcsh man myself, so I wouldn't really know. > > Brendan "strong espresso solves most problems" Macmillan As well as a long night of trips to the bathroom and no sleep... Cheers, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:10:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Simple Tech Volunteer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am willing to analyze and solve the Simple Tech current draw problem. However I have no Simple Tech card. My suggestion is: Make me available a 48MB CF Simple Tech card with PCMCIA adapter. If I find a solution for the power consumption problem, I may keep the card for free and make my solution available as freeware for everybody. If I find no solution, I will return the card at no cost. As a reference for my qualification just look at my LXCIC and SLEEPON programs. Stefan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:53:15 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: PCMIA problems 8- ( Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having problems getting a used PCMIA modem (Megahertz XJ2144) working on my HPLX200 (which is clock doubled with 6Mb ram - if that makes any difference?) I've had my communications program {COMMO} working with my external 56kflex with no problems, I just changed the setup for Com port 2 and changed the init string as recommended by the site below for the XJ2144. When COMMO is told to dial I just get a clicky sound then the dial tone (at least the sound when one would pick up a phone) then some more clicky sounds. COMMO report no dial tone However if I unplug the phone lead from the X-jack all I get is the low clicking noise with no phone dial tone. Both ways there are no tone dialing sound (I assume I should hear these?) LXCIC reports: MEGAHERTZ XJ2144 A5 PCMIA MODEM ADR=02F8 COR=61 FCSR=na BASE=0100 ID=02 Socket service I/O enabled {COMMO} Modem init: ATDT&FW2X4&C1&D3&K3&Q5%C3 \N3S7=60S95=0 OK (is reported on terminal screen when COMMO launched - also when I type in AT) The modem init string was obtained from www.shiva.com/prod/ccl/megahertzxj2144.htm Cable: __________ ____ Pin 1 ¨ ¨ Ý ------- |------- Locating pin ¨=======Ý Goes into X-jack ____ Pin 2 ¨ Ý-------- ____ Pin 3 ¨ ------------------- | Industrial Projects (Liam Michael Early) | P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231 | Ph/Fx: +61 8 9721 8506 Mob. 0412 909 684 | e-mail 1: industrial_projects@technologist.com | e-mail 2: danaan@opera.iinet.net.au -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:45:53 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Using the bank-switching hardware of the LX, it should be possible to modify minix to work with up to 64Mb memory :) Of course, this would take a bit of programing... -----Original Message----- From: Laust Brock-Nannestad To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Friday, 2 October 1998 17:10 Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop >On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: > >> > Now I'm back to DOS/Windows, but I have as many >> > UNIX-flavored tools on my desktop and palmtop as I possibly can. > >This is what I do as well. > >I don't think the LX is a viable platform for Minix (or Elks), there >simply isn't enough memory in 640kb to run a decent UNIX system with >several programs running at the same time. IIRC, the guy who managed to >get Minix running on the LX himself noted that it barely had enough memory >boot. "UNIX in your hand" (TM) would be nice, but it isn't going to happen >on the LX unless someone finds a clever way of making more than 640kb >availiable. > >> I think it's time for another list of your favourite DOS-versions of >> unix tools. >> >> To start off simply, I have (non-exhaustively): >> >> >> vi - calvin 46k, vim (ver 3) 235k (pklited, I think!) > >I have calvin as well, but I rarely use it. The 'vi' way of doing things >just doesn't appeal to me... > >> ls.bat >> @echo off >> @dir /w /l /on %1 %2 %3 %4 > >Do you have an l.bat and ll.bat as well? > > >I use an ls clone I found somewhere (probably either Garbo or Simtel). As >for other UNIX utilities, I have these (among others): > > df - a df clone in just 247 bytes! Even Jorgen Dybdahl would appreciate > the small size of this! ;-) > > rm, mv, cp - just good clones of these standard UNIX utilities. > > xgrep - the smallest grep implementation I've ever seen. Just 3.5kb (and > 800 bytes of that is the built-in help screen). Very fast too. > You can get it from S.U.P.E.R > > GNU less - my favourite text viewer. It does run a bit slowly on the LX, > though. > > I have some UNIX programming languages/text processing utilities as well, >such as sed, awk, and perl, although I rarely use sed or awk any more. > >For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, >but many other people have added features to it since (found on SimTel I >think). > >I used 4DOS for a while, and it works nicely on the LX. However, since it >has to swap to disk every time it has to run an external command it >runs a bit slowly. I imagine it will be faster if you use EMS. > > >(BTW. for those who don't know what Garbo is, it is a software repository >much like Simtel. It is located in Finland, and the address is >http://garbo.uwasa.fi) > > > >Regards, > >Laust > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:55:41 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Simple Tech CG PCMIA Volunteer Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >consumption problem, I may keep the card for free and make my >solution available as freeware for everybody. If I find no >solution, I will return the card at no cost. Thats what I call performance earning Regards to all......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:48:46 GMT Reply-To: Jm Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jm Musielewicz Subject: Re: Simple Tech Volunteer Marcan sells the card with adapter for 249. I'd be willing to throw 20 in for the card. John In message <19981002100942.28512.qmail@mannheim1.pop.metronet.de>, stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE said: > I am willing to analyze and solve the Simple Tech current draw > problem. However I have no Simple Tech card. > > My suggestion is: Make me available a 48MB CF Simple Tech card > with PCMCIA adapter. If I find a solution for the power > consumption problem, I may keep the card for free and make my > solution available as freeware for everybody. If I find no > solution, I will return the card at no cost. > > As a reference for my qualification just look at my LXCIC and > SLEEPON programs. > > Stefan > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:03:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: About WinCE LILO and LX-Minix (Mr. Borders and Mr. Kozak) Hello members, WinCE: Well, this piece of Handheld OS junk is actually a somehow microcodeized Win NT; which is way harder to get rid of! Also I can assure you that both M$ and Casio/Philips/HP vendors will put you to prison for (C)opyright infringement, child abuse, etc. should you try to run anything else on their H/P/PCs than WinCE. I do think their patience last no more than the XTCE emulator. I have actually heard that M$ requested HW "brakes", that inspect CPU utilization profile and H/PC won't start if it's not CE. As WinCE is WinNT which is in turn VMS and VMS is very different from DOS-like and Unices OSes, it's easy to ID the OS running. Question: Do you know the Nokia 9110? I heard that it's CE based, but I know Nokia is interested in PSION synergy. How is it? As the similar Nokia 9000 Communicator was custom-OS (GEOS?), I bet a close examination of both type should help WinCE freaks to determine what's different and how. That's the only platform to this day that run WinCE and other OS too AFAIK. For MINIX: Mr. Richard L. Dubs will NOT continue the Minix-HPLX port. He e-mail told me, that he has a longterm intensive paywork that prohibits him from finishing the project. He also said that he lacks intimate HW-level programming knowleadge of the Hornet CPU and he suspects that crash causes are there. All his works on the project are ZIP-ped and downloadable So, please DO NOT e-mail him; rather arrange group via this list. (Btw, for those interested; Minix CAN use BIOS drivers, which is very favourable. It can read/write to DOS partitions, but can't mount them. There is beta-stage source code for EMS support, that could be worked on. Keyboard driver does not use BIOS for good. Installation on XT w/ 640kb is damn hard - took me 1 week with 3 email exchanges a day for "support" - but doable. But you can install Minix-16bit on a big desktop w/ PCMCIA quicker. It is mainly useful if you wish to learn Unices; it is so small one human can understand all of it's workings. It also has the best book to study by Andy Tanenbaum w/ source & binary CD-ROM.) Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:06:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Oct 2, 98 12:06:10 pm Content-Type: text > > > For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, > > > but many other people have added features to it since (found on SimTel I > > > think). > > Does this have history completion? wced is still the winner here I > > feel. Not even tcsh has this! (bugs me) Do you know of a unix shell > > that does have it? > > Nope, it doesn't have history completion, unfortunately... I did try Wced > once, but didn't like it for some reason. Also, the keys are more > user-definable in CMDEDIT. I beg to differ. I use CMDEDIT, and it has history completion. Start typing the first few letters of a recent command, then press CRTL-R, and the complete command from history is recalled. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:19:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ah.... Well Harris wrote to me that all is now well in his world, all is working and he is happier than a pig in er.... eh... never mind - he is happy now! :-) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > > --- begin of forwarded message --- > > > > From: Harris > > Subject: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back > > Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 09:41:05 +0000 > > > > Hi all, I just started using it yesterday and I think it's fantastic. > > But with newsgroups, I download headers first, then some messages, but > > from then on it keeps retrieving the same messages repeatedly. Can > > anyone help? Thanks. > > > > --- end of forwarded message --- > > He really needs to write to support@dasoft.com... We provide tech support > there ... > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:19:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Battery questions Comments: To: Frans Veldman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Frans, Thanks for writing. Good luck in the new house, and I am looking forward to working with you! (I also wrote briefly privately). Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:19:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: number of files in OPEN dialogue Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mikhail, for a Memo replacement with more capabilities, including multiple open files (at the same time), and no limits to size of file being opened, look at PE (PalEdit) on our Webpage http://www.dasoft.com. It is copyrighted freeware. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:32:46 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JW4ALWAYS@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Perry Irizarry Subject: SIGNOFF HPLX-L Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:41:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: Can't extract Goin' Postal file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to all who responded. The problem was apparently a bad download. On another positive note, I have a newer version of GP than I originally had. Now I need to get it set up... Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:44:43 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: Anyone know of commercial suppliers of ebooks? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >The Rocket eBook is made by NuvoMedia, a company started by a couple >of friends of mine. You can get more information at >www.nuvomedia.com. The texts themselves are in an encrypted format. >When you buy one you provide a key to your particular Rocket eBook. >That unlocks the text for reading only on that Rocket eBook. So >unless you have a Rocket eBook you're out of luck. This reminds me of the copy protection systems that used to pester us in the 80ies. Ýshudder!¨ Does anyone know of suppliers of commercial ebooks in raw ASCII format? The classics from Gutenberg (and others) are good reading but sometimes I like to read something more recent. Jorgen = -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:08:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Brown Subject: astronomy software? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was curious to know if anyone knows of something that can plot the night sky? I guess I'm looking for something that can help me find constellations, stars, planets, etc. I know it would be hard to see the screen at night, but... ;) -- --= Curtis Brown =-------curtisb@optimus-corp.com----------- Optimus Corporation www.optimus-corp.com software engineer fax: +1.970.226.3464 ------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:06:24 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I used 4DOS for a while, and it works nicely on the LX. However, since it >has to swap to disk every time it has to run an external command it >runs a bit slowly. I imagine it will be faster if you use EMS. I run 4DOS with EMS and it does run great. The filename completion is much better than CMDEDIT, which I used to use. Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:39:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jaime A. Viehweg" Subject: TRANS PC card problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's the specs on my equipment: 200LX 2x 32MB upgrade. TransPC card apparently running version 7.0 of thier stuff Here's the problem: Transfering from HP to PC using TransPC card works great. Nice and fast and all that. Transferring from PC to HP always hangs after about 10k of stuff being transferred. Anyone out there have a clue here? I bought the card a couple of months ago but just got around to playing with it. It would be nice to be able to restore a backup if necessary! Also, printing to LPT1: from LetterPerfect is very, very, very slow. Printing to COM1: with the same printer is lickity-split! That doesn't seem right either. I suppose this was talked about a long time ago but I didn't think I'd ever want one of these things. But when someone said they could get a Zip drive working on a 200lx, I became interested! Thanks. jaime -- jviehweg | Lucent Technologies @ Jaime A. Viehweg | - Bell Labs Innovations bell-labs.com | PacketStar(tm) ACS Lab Support -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:53:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Waldemar Kowalski Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Waldemar Kowalski Subject: Re: Newton Keyboard Driver Update In-Reply-To: <0054100001533357000002L072*@MHS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A reminder for those needing them - I have some connectors for the Newton kb (the female mini-din connectors). Email me if you're interested - $5 including shipping. waldemar kowalski wally@ncag.edu or wally@msn.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Command Line History Completion Content-Type: text One more thing... regarding the topic of command line completion... You can have this also within DOS using F8 command after typing the first few letters of a recent command. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:33:42 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wellner, Harry SIOP-OGBH/7" Subject: RJ11 modem cable VELO 500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain My brother in law living in Norway had recently bought a VELO 500 in Holland WITHOUT a modem cable due to unavailability here. RJ11 cable is about $100. Someone knows better price in Holland or Norway Harry Wellner, Gouda-The Netherlands -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:03:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Kirk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kirk Subject: Re: Battery questions In-Reply-To: <199810020511.BAA15240@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Frans Veldman wrote: >As far as I know these Ývoltage derivitave¨ methods are even >used in satellites. (You know, these things have batteries > which are charged and decharged numerous times >per day (in polar satellites like the NOAA weather birds) and they lasts >for many years. Try to do that with the current charging algorithms >available for the LX. :-( Satellite makers go to great lengths to avoid having to use voltages to control battery charging. They start by carefully matching the cells in the battery during construction to avoid preferential charging which will kill the battery faster than mischarging. Then they measure the state of charge with battery internal pressure (strain gages) and temperature which is less indirect than the voltages as you correctly point out. Finally, they try never to discharge below 75-80% of capacity; no such thing as deep discharge in space when you recharge 14 times a day. Cheers, Rob Kirk -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:47:26 GMT Reply-To: at-grey@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Turley Subject: Re: Flash disk formatting Comments: To: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> In-Reply-To: <199810020242_MC2-5B4B-AD88@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 02:40:17 -0400, you wrote: >Hello all. saw some posts a while back about formatting flash disks and >getting more usable space from them. My question is, what do most = people >do? I believe that a utility to format your drive into 1K clusters is on the SUPER site. Look for 1kclus.zip. @~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:04:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Rodger N. Bird II" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Rodger N. Bird II" Subject: Re: astronomy software (FREE Astronmy graphic files) Comments: To: Curtis Brown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About a year ago I put up a hidden web page for this group of users. It = did not get much traffic so I never updated it. It contains: The Sky - Star Finder (planisphere) View:=20 Sky-b.zip Sky-w.zip File size is 39,724 K=20 Sky Map Views from North, South, East, and West:=20 Skymap-b.zip=20 Skymap-w.zip=20 File size is 140,487 K=20 Moon Maps:=20 Moon-b.zip=20 Moon-w.zip=20 File size is 75,770 K All graphics are 2 color B&W graphics to provide the best display on a = HP palmtop computer and are provided in a compressed .gif format to save = your valuable disk space. Files are available with the sky background clear and the stars black, = or with the sky black and the stars clear or white. Files that have a suffex of "-w.zip" have a clear or white sky = background. Files that have a suffex of "-b.zip" have a black sky background. I created these files because I did not like the slow speed of most = astronomy programs on the HP. I own EZ Cosmos 3.0 (slow) and have tried = Skyglobe and did not like the display and controls. I finally gave up = and now use Cshow and these graphic files to display the night sky. Again I will post the hidden web page. Feel free to download any files = and enjoy the night sky. You can sample the files on my website. Click on "astronomy pages" The = main page is: http://www.mich.com/~rbird2/ The files are found at: http://www.mich.com/~rbird2/palmsky.html Have fun! Rodger rbird2@mich.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:20:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , nickwb4sqi@WWD.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nick Marsh Subject: Re: PCMIA problems 8- ( Comments: To: danaan@IINET.NET.AU On 10-02 07:53am, Someone said: > I'm having problems getting a used PCMIA modem > (Megahertz XJ2144) working on my HPLX200 (which > is clock doubled with 6Mb ram - if that makes any > difference?) > > I've had my communications program {COMMO} working > with my external 56kflex with no problems, I just changed > the setup for Com port 2 and changed the init string as > recommended by the site below for the XJ2144. > > When COMMO is told to dial I just get a clicky sound then the > dial tone (at least the sound when one would pick up a phone) > then some more clicky sounds. COMMO report no dial tone > > However if I unplug the phone lead from the X-jack all I get is > the low clicking noise with no phone dial tone. Both ways > there are no tone dialing sound (I assume I should hear these?) > Liam and fellow LX'ers I get something similar when using a Boca 14.4 PCMCIA modem. The speaker in my 200 has a clicking noise all the time and when I press a key I get a burst of more noise. I originally thought the modem speaker was doing this but now I believe it to be the 200 speaker. I can send at commands to the modem to shut the speaker off but the sound does not go away. Anyone got any ideas? 73 Nick Marsh WB4SQI Powered by HP200LX Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.17) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:17:03 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Re: PCMIA problems 8- ( Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >When COMMO is told to dial I just get a clicky sound then the >dial tone (at least the sound when one would pick up a phone) >then some more clicky sounds. COMMO report no dial tone The first thing that I would do would be to try the built in card client located at d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1 Of course remove the other driver LXCIC. Reboot. Then add X3 to your modem init string. That tells the modem to ignore the dial tone and dial anyway. If that works try switching your driver back. -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments) http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:16:29 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , mitchell hamm Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: mitchell hamm Subject: Another 32 MB upgrade Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got this email the other day: ---------- From: Markus Krey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 Ýde¨ (Win95; I) To: super@palmtop.net Subject: selfmade 8-32MB for HP100/200LX Hello, I've developped a 32MB memory upgrade for the HP100/200LX. I am working to describe the build in procedure on this webside: www.rz.fh-ulm.de/~krey This side is under construction ! You can set a link on my page, if you want. I'm sorry, my englisch is verry bad an when I find someone who can translate my page into english, I want to publish it in this language too. Markus ----------- It sounded interesting so I'm just passing it along. Mitch SUPER Team -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:18:50 -0700 Reply-To: burkec@goldstate.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Thompson Subject: Re: astronomy software? Comments: To: Curtis Brown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Curtis, Try Skyglobe at the Super site. Get a red Photon mini light or put a red led in a Mini Mag Lite. Colin Curtis Brown wrote: > > I was curious to know if anyone knows of something that can plot the > night sky? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:19:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: PCMIA problems 8- ( Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" , "Liam M. Early" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm having problems getting a used PCMIA modem > (Megahertz XJ2144) working on my HPLX200 (which > is clock doubled with 6Mb ram - if that makes any > difference?) I have one for a long time now (but not a clock-doubled hp) and it works. But the pcmcia modem does NOT make normal noises as it has no speaker. You may in fact hear rasping sounds and an approximation of dialing sounds. Make sure your hp has its sound employed. Try in the built-in datacom application. Just some simple atdt999-9999 phone numbers or where you get another modem on the other side. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:23:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: number of files in OPEN dialogue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have PE, and use it with POST. PE is excellent. But I need infrared printing capability, thus limited to Memo for my reports. Mikhail > > for a Memo replacement with more capabilities, including multiple open files > (at the same time), and no limits to size of file being opened, look at PE > (PalEdit) on our Webpage http://www.dasoft.com. It is copyrighted freeware. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:37:16 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , greg@NCD.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Greg Renda Subject: Re: Rock eBook Comments: To: Cavendishl@aol.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 98 21:37:53 EDT." > PLEASE advise your friends that they need to devise a 200lx application. I > can see no reason why they couldn't accomplish their end while allowing use on > one individual lx. (A WinCE solution is also advisable.) If they don't > provide a solution for honest people, someone will hack a decripter all the > sooner. Actually the main issue is with the publishers. They are *extremely* nervous about allowing books to be viewed on "open" systems. If you were to provide a reader for the 200LX (or CE) it would be fairly easy to write a grabber that would capture the text from the screen and write it to a file. It could page through the entire book and then you'd have it all unencrypted. Publishers don't like that idea at all. Another issue is unique identification of the viewing device so that you can unlock the book for that device only. I don't think that the 200LX or CE devices have unique identifiers (do they?). Ultimately there probably will be readers for various PDAs just because there are so many out there. But from what I understand it's been pretty difficult to convince publishers to take this first little step at all. -Greg -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:40:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Subject: fax on 200lx Comments: To: "HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain this is my first posting on a listserv so please correct me if I violate the rules!! I am am trying to run bfax with faxgui on a 32 mb double speed 200lx. The directions talked about using max dos. I am unable to get it to run. I use buddy and IRDA tsr's. Can it be run without maxdos? how do you configure it? thanks -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:52:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAMERICA@FIRMENICH.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Linkowsky Subject: Terminal Emulation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was wondering how I could easily use my 200LX to "talk" to my network switches and devices via a terminal emulator package. This would be much easier that lugging around a laptop to all my data closets. I tried connecting the CPACK cable to a network device and using the comm package, I tried to "talk" to the device. No luck. Is there something I'm missing. I know I can emulate VT100 so why am I having so much trouble connecting to a device via the CPACK cable? Is there some other piece of software I should be using? Any suggestions? Thanks for your help. John Linkowsky john.linkowsky@firmenich.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Kramer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Kramer Subject: Re: Terminal Emulation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Linkowsky wrote: > > I was wondering how I could easily use my 200LX to "talk" to my network > switches and devices via a terminal emulator package. This would be much > easier that lugging around a laptop to all my data closets. I tried > connecting the CPACK cable to a network device and using the comm package, > I tried to "talk" to the device. No luck. Is there something I'm missing. > I know I can emulate VT100 so why am I having so much trouble connecting to > a device via the CPACK cable? Is there some other piece of software I > should be using? Most likely cause is using the wrong adapter. Some of them are "null modem" adapters. I'm guessing you need to use the black one with the computer symbol on it. If it has thw wrong gender, try a cable or gender changer. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:40:40 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Terminal Emulation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I do this all the time. The best way to go is to get two items that will turn the HP serial port into the same port as a 9-pin PC serial port. Many routers already come with the cables needed to connect toa PC. You'll need two inexpensive items: a 9-pin female-to-male gender changer(It should have two male ports) and a 9-pin null modem adapter. I would also include in your arsenal a 9 to 25 serial port adapter and a 9 pin modem cable. All items can be had at Radio Shack. > -----Original Message----- > From: David Kramer Ýmailto:david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET¨ > Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 3:09 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Terminal Emulation > > > John Linkowsky wrote: > > > > I was wondering how I could easily use my 200LX to "talk" > to my network > > switches and devices via a terminal emulator package. This > would be much > > easier that lugging around a laptop to all my data closets. I tried > > connecting the CPACK cable to a network device and using > the comm package, > > I tried to "talk" to the device. No luck. Is there > something I'm missing. > > I know I can emulate VT100 so why am I having so much > trouble connecting to > > a device via the CPACK cable? Is there some other piece of > software I > > should be using? > > Most likely cause is using the wrong adapter. Some of them are "null > modem" adapters. I'm guessing you need to use the black one with the > computer symbol on it. If it has thw wrong gender, try a cable or > gender changer. > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:43:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , River Wolf Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: River Wolf Subject: Re: Terminal Emulation Comments: To: JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAMERICA@FIRMENICH.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use my 200lx with the CPACK cable and Data Comm to program all my switches (3com). I don't use any of the adapters. Some suggestions on what might be wrong: Is the serial port in the 200lx on? Are you using the right com port (1) ? Is the cable plugged in correctly to the 200lx? Has the switch been setup to ignore it's serial port? Have you verified that all the settings between the switch and 200lx are identical? (protocol, baud rate, emulation, etc) You shouldn't need a null modem adapter. I know on 3com switches, it will lock up the 200lx requiring a hard boot (CTRL+SHIFT+ON). You may want to try removing any PCMCIA cards you have as sometimes they interfere (though how I don't know). --Patrick McGouirk Computer Systems Administrator 13WMAZ -----Original Message----- From: John Linkowsky To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 3:00 PM Subject: Terminal Emulation >I was wondering how I could easily use my 200LX to "talk" to my network >switches and devices via a terminal emulator package. This would be much >easier that lugging around a laptop to all my data closets. I tried >connecting the CPACK cable to a network device and using the comm package, >I tried to "talk" to the device. No luck. Is there something I'm missing. >I know I can emulate VT100 so why am I having so much trouble connecting to >a device via the CPACK cable? Is there some other piece of software I >should be using? > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks for your help. > >John Linkowsky >john.linkowsky@firmenich.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:57:16 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Resent-From: PALMTOPS@airgunhq.com Comments: Originally-From: jim.henry@airgunhq.com (Jim Henry) From: PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193 Subject: Airgun ballistics software for LX In-Reply-To: <213F934C0714D111969A0000929B739721026E@sys1.addcoinc.com> CJ>> JH># FWIW, I run two different exterior ballistics programs on my >> Palmtop..... > ....if anyone is interested in these please contact me..... CJ>Me too please ! The file name is AIR-TRAJ.ZIP and can be downloaded from AirPower BBS. The other product is a commercial version of same that is much more full featured and sells for $25 so I can't make that available. That one is available from PASA and you can contact rlwiner@gte.net for information on that version. Still, the freeware version does all that I need. Jim * 1st 2.00 #9525 * Fight Crime ** Shoot back! -- (Jim Henry) AirPower Information Services BBS * 610-259-2193 The Shooter's Online Service - since 1989 http://www.airpower.com Telnet://airpower.dyn.ml.org -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:16:48 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: About WinCE LILO and LX-Minix (Mr. Borders and Mr. Koza > Hello members, > > WinCE: Well, this piece of Handheld OS junk is actually a somehow > microcodeized Win NT; which is way harder to get rid of! Also I > can assure you that both M$ and Casio/Philips/HP vendors will > put you to prison for (C)opyright infringement, child abuse, etc. > should you try to run anything else on their H/P/PCs than WinCE. > I do think their patience last no more than the XTCE emulator. > > I have actually heard that M$ requested HW "brakes", that inspect > CPU utilization profile and H/PC won't start if it's not CE. > As WinCE is WinNT which is in turn VMS and VMS is very different > from DOS-like and Unices OSes, it's easy to ID the OS running. > Somehow I doubt that ANY company could "put you in prison" for running ANYTHING on a product you purchased. If I want to shove hot buttered toast in my VCR no one can stop me and neither could any one stop me from running anything I want on any computer I own. A company can TRY to stop another COMPANY from making money by selling something that runs on their hardware, but even then it is quite hard to do, that is why companies try to protect the hardware information. The only thing a company can do is accuse someone of disassembling their software to get proprietary information, and even then they can only get the courts involved if money is made from the information. I also doubt that there is any HARDWARE on winCE machines that would KNOW if they were running winCE. That would put too many contrants on future changes to the software that is running on the hardware to make it feasible. Just because you have a personal dislike for something doesn't make it BAD. You are free to like or dislike anything but making out that it is somehow terrible because of your PERSONAL opinion is rather silly. Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:19:43 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , JohnMark5@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Peckham Subject: Re: astronomy software? Comments: To: curtisb@OPTIMUS-CORP.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Skyglobe is an amazing little programs. I haven't tried it at night, but it is cool for studying the sky and learning constellations. It has deep sky objects as well. Available on the SUPER site. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:32:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Curtis Brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Curtis Brown Subject: Re: astronomy software? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colin Thompson wrote: > > Curtis, > > Try Skyglobe at the Super site. Get a red Photon mini light or put a > red led in a Mini Mag Lite. Now I feel dumb. I _do_ have a find feature on my browser, honest. My apologizes to the list; I did not mean to imply my laziness. I like the red led idea. I just happen to have one of those Solitaire keychain Mag lights. If I find a small enuf led, should be a direct replacement. Thank you's to everybody who responded! -- --= Curtis Brown =-------curtisb@optimus-corp.com----------- Optimus Corporation www.optimus-corp.com software engineer fax: +1.970.226.3464 -----------------------------------------------hp200 rulez!- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:26:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Nickum, Roy H." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Nickum, Roy H." Subject: SYNCDR16 backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Has anyone tried the SYNCDR16 directory backup program described on page 2-3 of the most recent "The HP Palmtop Paper" (Vol 7, Number 5, 1998)? As it can be set to only copy changed files and to delete files in the destination directory that no longer exist in the source directory, it should be able to simply and quickly maintain an identical copy of the source. I must be doing something wrong. I can get it to copy the root directory structure and the files in the root directory, however, it does not copy any files or subdirectories beyond the root. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:15:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: fax on 200lx Comments: To: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:40, "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." = wrote: > this is my first posting on a listserv so please correct me if I = violate > the rules!! > > I am am trying to run bfax with faxgui on a 32 mb double speed 200lx. > The directions talked about using max dos. I am unable to get it to > run. > I use buddy and IRDA tsr's. Can it be run without maxdos? how do > you configure it? I never could get it to work either so I settled on QFax instead . QFax is a lot smaller, and is also available on the SUPER Site. Jorgen Wallgren , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: <199810021306.IAA03674@sh1.ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote: > > > Does this have history completion? wced is still the winner here I > > > feel. Not even tcsh has this! (bugs me) Do you know of a unix shell > > > that does have it? > > > > Nope, it doesn't have history completion, unfortunately... I did try Wced > > once, but didn't like it for some reason. Also, the keys are more > > user-definable in CMDEDIT. > > I beg to differ. I use CMDEDIT, and it has history completion. Start > typing the first few letters of a recent command, then press CRTL-R, and > the complete command from history is recalled. So it does! I guess I never read the manual closely enough. So to me, CMDEDIT is even better now :-) Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:37:36 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion In-Reply-To: <199810021458.JAA28179@sh1.ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote: > One more thing... regarding the topic of command line completion... > You can have this also within DOS using F8 command after typing the > first few letters of a recent command. Plain DOS doesn't have this feature, you must have it mixed up with DOSkey (which is built into the LX, and resides somewhere on D:) which gives you command line history and macro facilities, but no filename completion. Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:48:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Carrington Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Carrington Subject: Garmin GPS40 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just received my dad's old a Garmin GPS40 for a birthday present. I see that it has a serial connection. I have looked at Garmin's site and seen that they sell a PC program for uploading and downloading point sites and routes to the pc. They do not sell a program for doing maps. The GPS40 sets up with 4 or 5 different protocalls for communication. What mapping programs became available for the HP palmtops that might work for this and what will they do for me? Dan Carrington -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:57:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: Garmin GPS40 Comments: To: Dan Carrington In-Reply-To: <199810022249.PAA56720@garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are several: LXGPS by Greg Renda is the one I use. It works well, is designed with PAL for the palmtop, and is small. I wouldn't invest in the Garmin software/cable: they're too expensive. Try the following site: http://www.bridge.de/~tom/masterID.htm That's the Garmin information page. You can get Garmin connectors and make your own custom cable much cheaper than Garmin will sell you one for, and you can map with LXGPS and upload/download waypoints with GARDOWN. Bill On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Dan Carrington wrote: > I just received my dad's old a Garmin GPS40 for a birthday present. I > see that it has a serial connection. I have looked at Garmin's site and > seen that they sell a PC program for uploading and downloading point > sites and routes to the pc. They do not sell a program for doing maps. > The GPS40 sets up with 4 or 5 different protocalls for communication. > What mapping programs became available for the HP palmtops that might > work for this and what will they do for me? > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:02:51 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , profengr@DELANET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert H. Pigford" Subject: Flashcard crash? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My HP brand 10meg crashed. It is no longer recognized by Filer or DOS (Abotr, Retry, Fail). I may have caused it when I ran the on-board HP200LX diagnostics (test all) with the flashcard in drive A:. Ooops! This card -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:19:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Flashcard crash? Comments: To: profengr@DELANET.COM, "Robert H. Pigford" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > My HP brand 10meg crashed. It is no longer recognized by Filer or DOS > (Abotr, Retry, Fail). I may have caused it when I ran the on-board > HP200LX diagnostics (test all) with the flashcard in drive A:. Ooops! > The test is meant ONLY for SRAM cards and can totally blow away data/formatting/partition info on a flashcard. First, try the format routine from Filer. If that does not work, you will need to use the fdisk100??? program found in either dos or bin on the d: drive of the 100/200. After that, then the card will need to be formatted. Good luck. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:10:13 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rschwaiger@CTLNET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Schwaiger Subject: Re: Battery questions (LONG, but interesting) On 10-01 12:22pm, this was sent... < < Anyway, I'm debating which is more important: Speed and storage capacity, or battery life. < < Your mileage may vary, but if you have a Simple Tech card, try it out. Of < course, you have to win your Freecell game to get to the ending screen. :) < < Just don't take it for granted that a faster flash card can be found < without some sort of tradeoff. < < Cheers. < J. P. Grenert < grenert@mayo.edu < I've also noticed that the 'flying cards' of Chris Cameron's Dominoes game move much faster since I bought a 40meg ST card. Batteries don't last nearly as long but I just thought that was normal for a PCMCIA card, now I wonder. I love the capacity of the card, but I now use my AC adapter whenever I can or I leave the card out if not needed. Rick Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) EVALUATION -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:36:18 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Harris Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harris Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <199810021319.GAA22072@ftel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:19 AM 10/2/98 -0700, Avi of D&A wrote: >Ah.... Well Harris wrote to me that all is now well in his world, all is >working and he is happier than a pig in er.... eh... never mind - he is happy >now! :-) > Yes, that's all true! Avi is providing great tech support for a great product. WWW/LX has been an amazingly easy product to install and configure, and it's a pleasure to work with it. Especially when compared with Nettamer! Nettamer has to be one of the worst pieces of software I've ever worked with. Non-intuitive, lots of confusing messages, and no PAL/LX interface. WWW/LX is worth every penny. Harris -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:46:29 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Running Minix on the palmtop In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Oct 2, 98 12:06:10 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Erm, l and ll are standard ls aliases: > > alias l 'ls -F' # same as ls, except append a slash to directories > alias ll 'ls -l' # roughly the same as DOS' dir. > > You don't know these? Nope. Never heard of 'em. Checking: l is avail on our systems; but not ll. Maybe not so standard after all! But I myself use: alias ls ls -CF alias dir "ls -l" > > > rm, mv, cp - just good clones of these standard UNIX utilities. > > Do you really use the extra functionality that much? > > Mostly familiarity and cp could just as easily be an alias to copy. > However I do use 'rm -rf' sometimes to kill directories and when I use mv > I think "move", not "rename". I have rm.bat, mv.bat and cp.bat :) Thanks for the rm -rf tip - preferable to DOS deltree. > Xgrep has crashed on me a few times under Win95, but hey, what doesn't? :-) People pay good money for that non-deterministic feature. > > > For filename completion, I use CMDEDIT, originally a PC Magazine utility, > Nope, it ÝCMDEDIT¨ doesn't have history completion, filename completion is wonderful, but history completion is wonderfuller. It's the kind of feature that you didn't know how much you needed it til you got it. wced's not the only one with it. But not to preach! One day you'll try it and you'll know. Here it is, all set up: http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/wced.exe > > Brendan "strong espresso solves most problems" Macmillan > > As well as a long night of trips to the bathroom and no sleep... Interesting! But I think I still prefer my strategy for solving problems. ;¬) -- Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:55:19 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion In-Reply-To: <199810021458.JAA28179@sh1.ro.com> from "R. Christopher Lott" at Oct 2, 98 09:58:28 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > One more thing... regarding the topic of command line completion... > You can have this also within DOS using F8 command after typing the > first few letters of a recent command. Do you mean DOSKEY? You are right! DOSKEY does have history completion, with a circular buffer and everything. Filename completion is the only thing lacking! Thanks for this, Chris! -- Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:01:08 -0400 Reply-To: profengr@delanet.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert H. Pigford" Subject: Re: Flashcard crash? Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks! Doing the steps in order (FDISK100, then FORMAT A:) worked great! I have my 10meg flashdisk back again! Many thanks, Bob Pigford >F. Kaufman wrote: > > > My HP brand 10meg crashed. It is no longer recognized by Filer or DOS > > (Abotr, Retry, Fail). I may have caused it when I ran the on-board > > HP200LX diagnostics (test all) with the flashcard in drive A:. Ooops! > > > > The test is meant ONLY for SRAM cards and can totally blow away > data/formatting/partition info on a flashcard. > > First, try the format routine from Filer. If that does not work, you > will need to use the fdisk100??? program found in either dos or bin on > the d: drive of the 100/200. After that, then the card will need to be > formatted. > > Good luck. > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:05:23 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: sunrise, moonrise times MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For sunrise/set, I suppose I could work out the geometry (no pun intended) of the Earth's orbit and tilt... but if someone has already done this... There was another post about a week ago on moonrise times (I think) etc; I was hoping to see an answer, but none was forthcoming. Wasn't this kind of thing the very reason for the creation of mathematics, and therefore computers? Thanks, Brendan -- Brendan.Macmillan@fcit.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:19:20 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: WWW/LX Newsgroup.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I agree. It is not often that one finds such a polished piece of work. I especially like the "headers only" feature, which helps to tame unruly mailing lists. It's quite amazing how headers, in combination with multiple mailboxes, allow one to get just the valuable stuff, and reject the naove, the provocative, the stupid, virus warnings, and the flame wars. One can even venture an opinion, and then smugly watch all the "Re:" headers pouring in. This particular list is highly informed and focused, but imagine communicating with several hundred people of different socioeconomic and educational backgrounds, connected only by some, relatively diffuse, theme... Mikhail > Yes, that's all true! Ave is providing great teach support for a great > product. WWW/LX has been an amazingly easy product to install and > configure, and it's a pleasure to work with it. Especially when compared -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:37:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kjh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: kjh Subject: Re: Newton Keyboard Driver Update Comments: To: Waldemar Kowalski MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I'm quite interested. Are these 9-pin PC serial to mini-DIN 8 Newton adapters? Will these allow a Newton Keyboard to work with the HP200 with the keyboard driver? I tried a "Pilokey" 9-pin to mini-DIN 8 adapter and it would not work - I suspect that the internal wiring was off. Thanks. Kurt Hopfensperger -----Original Message----- From: Waldemar Kowalski To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 10:16 AM Subject: Re: Newton Keyboard Driver Update >A reminder for those needing them - I have some connectors for the Newton kb >(the female mini-din connectors). Email me if you're interested - $5 >including shipping. > >waldemar kowalski >wally@ncag.edu or wally@msn.com > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 03:24:39 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: EXP modem - peculiar problem & strange solution MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My EXP modem/8meg stopped working. It was a gradual thing. It started crashing the computer, first intermittently, then every time it was used. The fax part worked well, however. Reinitializing the card made no difference. EXP tech support's reaction can be charitably described as lukewarm, but after 2 toll calls and several unanswered emails and faxes they finally gave me an RMA number. Before I sent it away, I had to fax some documents. I saw many strange-titled filenames in the fax log. Many were numeric, 5 digit numbers. Several contained what appeared as mailing lists, but with names that I never knew. I cleared the log, and the modem is back to normal. It's quite puzzling that such problem could persist through reformatting, and then be cleared by just deleting items from the log. (NB: The log is kept in c:\_dat). Has anyone else had similar experiences? Mikhail -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:57:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Re: fax on 200lx Comments: To: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." -----Original Message----- From: Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. >I am am trying to run bfax with faxgui on a 32 mb double speed 200lx. >The directions talked about using max dos. I am unable to get it to >run. I use buddy and IRDA tsr's. Can it be run without maxdos? how do >you configure it? > Try this link for some very good instructions on setting up maxdos. http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/maxdos.htm -Tim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:00:26 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Re: Battery questions (LONG, but interesting) >I've also noticed that the 'flying cards' of Chris Cameron's Dominoes game >move much faster since I bought a 40meg ST card. Batteries don't last nearly >as long I just bought a ST card and found very low battery life. I am going to try and exchange it. Does anyone know how the compact Viking cards do in regards to battery life? -Tim -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:01:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Flashcard Formatting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If someone could help.... I tried using the utility on the super site 1kclust to format my 48mb flash card, but it says that it only formats up to 32mb as that is what the 100lx will recognize. Any hints on how to format on the 200lx for smaller than 4k clusters??? mucho. dave -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:28:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rschwaiger@CTLNET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Schwaiger Subject: Simple Tech Cards The Simple Technology memory card that is sucking up my batteries is a 40 meg flash card not a compact flash card. I think they're still selling them at Marcan for $159. Are the ST CF cards draining batteries too? I love the extra, affordable memory but I don't like the idea of only a couple of hours of battery time. The long battery life of the HPLX is one of the greatest features of it. I simpy can't afford or justofy spending the $500 for the 32 meg 2x upgrade, but I can (barely) justify the $159 40 meg flash card and $50 2x speed upgrade. I haven't ordered the 2x upgrade yet and now I'm hesitant to do so if I'll just loose that much more of my battery life. Wow to have a HPLX that only lasts as long as a power hungry WINCE, ouch. Rick Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) EVALUATION -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rschwaiger@CTLNET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Schwaiger Subject: MaxDOS Can someone help me get MaxDOS configured on my HPLX? I don't think I've set it up correctly. I must be missing something obvious, and since its so late at night that's entirely possible. The first line of my autoexec.bat file is: maxdos-l The last line of my autoexec.bat file is: maxdos-r MaxDOS is installed in the following directory: a:\programs\maxdos I put the following in the command line to launch HDM from the System Manager: a:\programs\maxdos\maxdos.com a:\programs\hdm\dm.exe| Should all programs' command lines in System Manager and HDM include the full path maxdos.exe in addition to the path to launch them? Are they supposed to be included in quotes? What is the syntex for setting up the TMP file location? HDM launches fine from the System Manager, but it says that I only have 281k of memory available. I don't even have any other applications open. Shouldn't there be a lot more there? If someone could send me some examples of the syntex it would really help. Thanks, Rick Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) EVALUATION -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:25:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Magnifying the LX screen Comments: To: "Daniel Z. Sands, MD, MPH" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Avi, will Magnify work in DOS programs? Sure. It is a DOS program itself. I just tried it on this message! ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:35:45 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: Rock eBook Comments: cc: greg@ncd.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> PLEASE advise your friends that they need to devise a 200lx application. I >> can see no reason why they couldn't accomplish their end while allowin= g use on >> one individual lx. (A WinCE solution is also advisable.) If they don't >> provide a solution for honest people, someone will hack a decripter al= l the >> sooner. > >Actually the main issue is with the publishers. They are *extremely* >nervous about allowing books to be viewed on "open" systems. If you >were to provide a reader for the 200LX (or CE) it would be fairly easy >to write a grabber that would capture the text from the screen and >write it to a file. It could page through the entire book and then >you'd have it all unencrypted. Publishers don't like that idea at >all. > >Another issue is unique identification of the viewing device so that >you can unlock the book for that device only. I don't think that the >200LX or CE devices have unique identifiers (do they?). Their viewer is looks nice enough, though a tad expensive and possibly rather thick and heavy since there is no mention of weight and thickness. Anyway, I really have enough to carry and I am unlikely to have that one in my pocket at all times. Copy protection of software was the big issue in the 80ies. The software companies had to admit in the end that too many people just wouldn't accept the protection schemes. People want to run their software on the machine they like, they do not like having to find a master disk/CD to put in a drive, having strange hidden files stored on their harddisk, having to find the manual to look up a word or pattern etc. I always ask about protection schemes before buying. If they price the books correctly they shouldn't have a problem. I bought some literature in ASCII from Spectrum last year - I remember some wonderful books by Ray Dittmeier and Michael Martin for $5 each delivered by email. However Spectrum have stopped selling ebooks. Anyone know of publishers selling ASCII ebooks? I have not been able to find any. Jorgen = -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:50:10 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back Comments: To: Harris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > with Nettamer! Nettamer has to be one of the worst pieces of software = I'v > ever worked with. Non-intuitive, lots of confusing messages, and no = PAL/L > interface. > We don't want to be too hard on nettamer, though. It's free, and it = handles e-mail and newsgroups fine and fast. I agree it's kinda kooky though. I managed to get it going in an hour (my first palmtop internet experience) and used it for quite a while. Then I saw the browser for www/lx... Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 02:50:12 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: PE and IR (was: number of files in OPEN dialogue) Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I have PE, and use it with POST. PE is excellent. But I need infrared = prin ng > capability, thus limited to Memo for my reports. > > Mikhail > Remember, there is now a new set of IR drivers for DOS apps available on = the HP website. Lets DOS apps on the 200lx print IrDA. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:14:24 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Free CPACK gone Ýstill want it¨ Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tim: CPACK from Educalc & > Sigh. HP's mobile support desk, said Ýwithout a hint of sarcasm¨, "If you > bought it from EduCALC, you'll have to get support from EduCALC...I'll be > glad to get you a part number; so you can order it from us..." Ask to speak with the manager of that person. HP is a bit touchy about their PR. If that does not help, escalate upwards, in writing. This attitude stinks and up the line at HP there is _someone_ who will not stand for this... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:21:37 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: Flashcard Formatting Comments: To: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I tried using the utility on the super site 1kclust to format my 48mb flash > card, but it says that it only formats up to 32mb as that is what the 100lx > will recognize. Any hints on how to format on the 200lx for smaller than > 4k clusters??? > I) There is a DOS Partition Manager including formatting, sources, good explanations and all you need as freeware from Mikhail Ranish ranish@intercom.com http://www.intercom.com/~ranish or http://www.ml.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~mranish Till now I didn't try the SW on my 200LX, because: II) The DOS format prgr which comes with W95 has an undocumented switch: FORMAT drive: /z:n n=1,2,4,8,.. where n is the number of sectors (512Byte) in a cluster. (I got this from the German PC magazine 'PC-Welt' 10/97 www.pcwelt.de or CIS: GO PCWELT) BTW: I've bought the 40MB ST PC-Card and use 1KByte clusters. Enjoy Hermann -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:29:53 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: Simple tech cards (was Battery questions) Comments: To: "Rodger N. Bird II" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rodger N. Bird II wrote: > > I went from a 10 meg Sandisk to a 40 meg Simple Tech. > My 40 meg Simple Tech is much better than 3 hours. Same for me. I didn't notice a significant change in power consumption yet. I'm using my 40MB ST PC-Flash-Card for one month now (it's not the CF version). How can we find out that the card is goin' to sleep or not? Hermann -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:01:54 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: Battery questions (LONG, but interesting) Comments: To: "Tim S." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim S. wrote: > > >I've also noticed that the 'flying cards' of Chris Cameron's Dominoes game > >move much faster since I bought a 40meg ST card. Batteries don't last >> nearly as long > > I just bought a ST card and found very low battery life. I am going to try > and exchange it. > I'm using my 40MB ST-PC-Card for one month now without low battery life. Can it be that having lite sleep off under DOS may cause problems to those which mainly use the DOS environment? I'm using Sys-Mgr most of the time. Hermann -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 07:16:49 GMT Reply-To: Jm Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jm Musielewicz Subject: simple tech ata flash cards I've been reading a lot on this list about excessive power drain from the simple tech flash cards. I have a 40 meg simple card from marcan and I am not experiencing this problem. With 700 mAh nicads I get anywhere from 4-7 (depending how I set the timeouts and what I am doing) hours. Have you used lxcic to check to see if your card is powering down? I just used it to test my card and it correctly reported it as powered down. If not you should contact either the distributer or Simple Technology because you probably have bad cards. Otherwise since the cards also have a powersaving writes and reads maybe we need a new driver to take advantage of it. It should be going to the powersaving modes on batteries. In that case we should support Stefan Peichl's offer to look at the problem. His replacement modem driver works very well. My .02 cents John -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 22:35:01 +1200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Lawrence Subject: Re: sunrise, moonrise times >For sunrise/set, I suppose I could work out the geometry (no pun >intended) of the Earth's orbit and tilt... but if someone has >already done this... >There was another post about a week ago on moonrise times (I think) >etc; I was hoping to see an answer, but none was forthcoming. >Wasn't this kind of thing the very reason for the creation of >mathematics, and therefore computers? >Thanks, Brendan Try SkyGlobe , it will allow you to view sunrise/set for many locations around the world and also see moonrise/set and neat stuff like transits. (We are having a transit of Jupiter by the moon tomorrow night (08:30 Zulu) down here in Auckland, NZ There is also a program on Super writen for the LX that does nothing but sun/moon rise/set times, I can't remember the name, but a search would find it. If you need the address, it is www.palmtop.net/super.html HTH David Lawrence katana@clear.net.nz Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 07:26:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion In-Reply-To: from "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Oct 3, 98 00:37:36 am Content-Type: text > > One more thing... regarding the topic of command line completion... > > You can have this also within DOS using F8 command after typing the > > first few letters of a recent command. > > Plain DOS doesn't have this feature, you must have it mixed up with DOSkey > (which is built into the LX, and resides somewhere on D:) which gives you > command line history and macro facilities, but no filename completion. Laust: Ah, you're quite right. You have to load DOSKEY to get this feature, and it's *only* command line history completion. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 07:34:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Garmin GPS40 In-Reply-To: from "Bill Childers" at Oct 2, 98 03:57:15 pm Content-Type: text > There are several: > LXGPS by Greg Renda is the one I use. It works well, is designed with PAL > for the palmtop, and is small. > > I wouldn't invest in the Garmin software/cable: they're too expensive. > Try the following site: > http://www.bridge.de/~tom/masterID.htm > > That's the Garmin information page. You can get Garmin connectors and > make your own custom cable much cheaper than Garmin will sell you one for, > and you can map with LXGPS and upload/download waypoints with GARDOWN. There's also an excellent article by some guy named Chris Lott (!) in this months's PTP discussing the use of a Garmin GPS receiver with the palmtop. One item you might be interested in (expanding on Bill's suggestion about making your own cable) is the availability of a very inexpensive GPS connector. I don't have the URL handy, but search on Purple Phrank Connector and I believe the page will pop up. Otherwise e-mail me off-list and I'll retrieve the link when I'm at my office. This guy makes his own connectors with an injection molding machine in his kitchen, and offers them as a sortof "shareware" hardware... you pay what you think they're worth. Amazing, but they work. I obtained several connectors and built two cables that haven't given me any problems. Much better than the prices Garmin offers. -Chris "Tooting My Horn" Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 07:42:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion In-Reply-To: <199810030055.KAA19208@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> from "Brendan Macmillan" at Oct 3, 98 10:55:19 am Content-Type: text > Do you mean DOSKEY? Yep... > You are right! DOSKEY does have history completion, with a circular > buffer and everything. Filename completion is the only thing lacking! > > Thanks for this, Chris! You're welcome. Also, try pressing F7 - you get a listing of command line history, just as if you typed the "history" command on a UNIX machine - then you can enter the number of a command to execute. Also, you commented about various UNIX shells missing command line completion. There *is* the crude history recall feature in most shells as follows: $ gcc -o razzmatazz razzmatazz.c file234.c underdog.o -lm $ razzmatazz $ vi razmatazz.c $ !gc <---- Command Line History Recall Also you can have command line editing of the previous command. Consider: $ gcc -o razzmatazz raxxmatazz.c file234.c underdog.o -lm No Such File: raxxmatazz.c $¬xx¬zz You're probably aleady familiar with this, but if not, I remember being frustrated when I was learning it how poorly documented these things were in my OS manuals. Uh, I'd better quit here before the TOPIC police catch me. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:32:11 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: I don't like MS, X-window for CGAXT, Minix. Nothing. Hello all, First about Microsoft: Well I don't like 'em, that's right. But they are the best when it comes to court. So, I am sure they will easily prove that anyone porting unices to WinCE machines is liable for loss of profit of MS and violates their (C) for ROM OS boot routines. They are determined to have WinCE on 90% of all subnotebook machines by end 2000 and multi-boot will not look good to them. WinCE is crucial to MS, they plan to unify the PC OS market; on WinNT basis. PC-servers run WinNT Server and handhelds run WinCE. Finally the largest mass: that of desktop PCs will convert from Win95/98 to WinNT WS. However, while NT 5.0 becomes mainstream it is mandatory that NT consolidates it's position other places. As WinCE devices are actually add-on to desktop PCs, rather than stand-alone computers; they are great for convincing PC users to migrate to WinNT. Not to mention WinCE thinclient desktop termi- nals, like the new Tektronix model for corporates. BTW, it is nice that WWW/LX new version has oriental support, just as the HP200LX hardware has some. Next WinCE 3.0 sports chinese support as strongest weapon against PalmPilot, the main opponent to P/PC. It would hurt to loose all active asian PP and HPLX users , just because MS cares better. (Those saying above 25 line were off-topic, are right. Sorry.) About X-window clients for XT w/ DOS and CGA: I revisited the websites and yes there are two. Caveat: the commercial one is quite expensive and still needs workaround to run on CGA screen. The free one doesn't work with >80286. But that has code available and could be worked on. Main problem is a pointing device, if you really wish to use it. I wonder if an IBM Trackpoint (Eraserhead) technology device could be made, in a small package, that directly attaches onto HPLX 9pin serial port. That's a footprint conscious solution, but not cheap. Minix: My IBM 5160 XT runs Minix v1.7.1 (I have hardware EMS under DOS, 2Megs; but not under Minix, my GA-114 board is unsupported). I have total 640KB, OS: 179KB, RAMdisk: none, User: 461KB. I use the BIOS drivers. I never recompiled, that's next to impossible on an XT. But if built right on a larger PC, an XT kernel w/ BIOS drivers only should fit in 160KB. And it needs to be done once, as all HPLX are created equal; just put it up for FTP. If I run the shell ASH I can't read MAN, MORE can't fork in available RAM. If I overlap with EXEC I will need to login again. With bare SH, there's no command history. TCSH is just a dream. On an XT, two users (at console and other on an RS-232 terminal); both with plain SH should work. So it is restricted, but usable. Older versions (like v1.5) were much smaller, even fit on two 720KB floppies; and v1.5 had a smallish windowing system. But I think any work should go to Minix ver 2.0 or newer. That is full POSIX, a must if you use it in classes. I already stated that it has ONLY educational use on 200LX. Classes based on the book: Operating Systems, design and Implementation (Minix) by Andy Tanenbaum are quite common in the USA and W.-Europe. There might be some benefit from carrying a 300 g palmtop vs. a 3-5 kg heavy laptop. A full install w/ all source fits in 19MB, little today. Bravest ones may play around with Ethernet support and TCP/IP. Hardware-wise: Someone said that the bank-switching technique of HP200LX should allow use of 64MB. I don't understand that. If he meant EMS4.0, that's 32MB max. Running executables from EMS (4.0 only, 3.3 and older not) is possible, but certainly is one of the most complicated things on Earth and requires compliant hardware support. Info on this aspect of EMS program- ming is hard to find. Do you know if the new 640MB PCMCIA flash by Hitachi is also "slanted package mounting"? I think that technique by Fujitsu promised 3-fold increase in bit/cm2 storage density. So if that and 256Mbit DRAM will meet once, 2GB becomes reality. That much storage may host all of DOShood, a wealth of all programs ever written for CGA/XT. But who should organize and dig it out? Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 07:34:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Conrad Cox Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Conrad Cox Subject: Re: manage HTML messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:49:10 -0400, Al Kind wrote: >>HV is set up as a POST/LX external. I open the message in POST/LX, then start HV from the externals menu. The message you were reading in POST becomes the default message in HV.<< Bingo! Tip of the Month! Conrad Cox San Francisco Palmtop User Group http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox cdcox@ccnet.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 17:09:44 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: MaxDOS In-Reply-To: <05371579612227@ctlnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Rick Schwaiger wrote: > Can someone help me get MaxDOS configured on my HPLX? I don't think I've > set it up correctly. I must be missing something obvious, and since its so > late at night that's entirely possible. > > The first line of my autoexec.bat file is: > maxdos-l > > The last line of my autoexec.bat file is: > maxdos-r > I think the problem is here. You don't seperate the filename from the arguments, thus MS-DOS interprets "maxdos-l" as the file "maxdos-l.com" with no arguments and not as "maxdos -l" try seperating maxdos and its arguments with a space and see if it works. Also, I assume that you start the GUI interface (by using the command "200") between those lines in your autoexec.bat? Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 08:24:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Sommer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Sommer Subject: Re: PE and IR (was: number of files in OPEN dialogue) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDEEB0.F95B31C0" ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDEEB0.F95B31C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's the exact name and location of the new IR drivers that let you print from DOS? Have you actually run them? -----Original Message----- From: Darren Frick ÝSMTP:dfrick@SNIP.NET¨ Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 12:50 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: PE and IR (was: number of files in OPEN dialogue) > I have PE, and use it with POST. PE is excellent. But I need infrared prin ng > capability, thus limited to Memo for my reports. > > Mikhail > Remember, there is now a new set of IR drivers for DOS apps available on the HP website. Lets DOS apps on the 200lx print IrDA. Darren. 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I found it very useful = for another project I was working on. I couldn't, however, get the = undocumented FORMAT A: /Z:1 to work on my 200LX. It comes up with = "Incorrect MS-DOS version" when I run it. Did you format your 200LX for = 1K clusters with the method you described or did you use another method? -----Original Message----- From: Hermann Kellinghaus ÝSMTP:Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de¨ Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 1:22 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Flashcard Formatting > I tried using the utility on the super site 1kclust to format my 48mb = flash > card, but it says that it only formats up to 32mb as that is what the = 100lx > will recognize. Any hints on how to format on the 200lx for smaller = than > 4k clusters??? > I) There is a DOS Partition Manager including formatting, sources, good explanations and all you need as freeware from Mikhail Ranish ranish@intercom.com http://www.intercom.com/~ranish or http://www.ml.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~mranish Till now I didn't try the SW on my 200LX, because: II) The DOS format prgr which comes with W95 has an undocumented switch: FORMAT drive: /z:n n=3D1,2,4,8,.. where n is the number of sectors (512Byte) in a cluster. (I got this from the German PC magazine 'PC-Welt' 10/97 www.pcwelt.de or CIS: GO PCWELT) BTW: I've bought the 40MB ST PC-Card and use 1KByte clusters. Enjoy Hermann -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:50:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: sunrise, moonrise times MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 3 Oct 1998 15:45:26 -0500 (EST) 19h40m03s ago ... On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote: > For sunrise/set, I suppose I could work out the geometry (no pun = intended) > of the Earth's orbit and tilt... but if someone has already done = this... From SUPER: Sunrise-Moonrise - sm11.zip Version 1.1 Bill Quinlan bquinlan@mwe.com 03/04/98 Sunrise-Moonrise is a utility to compute sunrise, sunset moonrise, moonset, twilight, etc. Freeware. Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:14:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Simple Tech Volunteer In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Stefan Peichl suggested: SP> I am willing to analyze and solve the Simple Tech current draw SP> problem. However I have no Simple Tech card. SP> SP> My suggestion is: Make me available a 48MB CF Simple Tech card SP> with PCMCIA adapter. If I find a solution for the power SP> consumption problem, I may keep the card for free and make my SP> solution available as freeware for everybody. If I find no SP> solution, I will return the card at no cost. John Musielewicz suggested: JM> Marcan sells the card with adapter for 249. I'd be willing to JM> throw 20 in for the card. How about the 32MB SimpleTech compact card? BuyComp ( http://www.buycomp.com ) sells that one (Part#: STI-CF/32) for $137.38. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:59:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Krist Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Krist Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion (off topic - sort of) Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" In-Reply-To: <199810031242.HAA12609@sh1.ro.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Relax, this is the weekend, the topic police are off eating donuts. Your examples of history completion are from csh and its relatives. Korn shell (which used to be available for dos from mortice kern systems) has IMHO a more natural approach, using your favorite editor commands to go back and forth thru the history. I just checked at www.mks.com and all I can find now are Unix and NT stuff :-< Everyone has their favorite shell and ksh happens to be mine. Jim Krist -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:26:43 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion (off topic - sort of) Comments: To: jtkrist@CLARK.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-03 16:57:04 EDT, you write: << Korn shell (which used to be available for dos from mortice kern systems) has IMHO a more natural approach >> You might try this url. The descriptions are in Japanese, and since I don't know anything about ksh, it may not be what you are looking for. I just found it with one of the search engines, looking for "dos ksh" http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/shell/ksh/ Cordially, Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:46:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Command Line History Completion (off topic - sort of) In-Reply-To: <848e4bc4.3616a4a3@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Lynn M. Cavendish wrote: > In a message dated 98-10-03 16:57:04 EDT, you write: > > << Korn > shell (which used to be available for dos from mortice kern systems) has > IMHO a more natural approach >> > > You might try this url. The descriptions are in Japanese, and since I don't > know anything about ksh, it may not be what you are looking for. I just found > it with one of the search engines, looking for "dos ksh" > > http://www.vector.co.jp/pack/dos/util/shell/ksh/ This is very interesting! However, I'm not sure it will work on a standard PC, it looks as if it was made for the PC-98 (a Japanese portable of some sort?). Perhaps someone who understands Japanese could come with a quick summary/description (of the shell, not the portable)? BTW. there is a free implementation of the Korn Shell availiable from Simtel: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/sysutl/ms_sh23b.zip (beware, it is an 800kb download!) Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:25:54 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Simple Tech Flash Card? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just recently got a HP 200LX and joined this group. This may seem like a silly question but I am looking to buy and Flash Card for my 200LX and i've seen messages about volunteers to try and get a ST card to work and also posts about how some people have been using there ST cards for months. Are these two different types of ST flash cards? I found an add for a ST card that stated it worked in the 200LX, will I have problems with it? Here is the description of the card... Simple Technology FLASH CARD 32MB ATA PCMCIA FOR NOTEBOOKS/DIGITAL CAMERAS/PDA Thanks in advance! Brian Sugita =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:40:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash Card? Comments: To: Brian Sugita MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Let me send you a quick response that will, no doubt, be corrected if it is substantially wrong. I have a SimpleTech 40MB card that I bought from Marcan. It worked fine in all my machines (200Lx, Libretto, Compaq) right out of the box. My understanding is that the discussion focusses on the question of whether the card uses substantially more power (important in the 200Lx, not so much so in my other machines as they tend to be on AC power most of the time anyway). My impression is that the card is fast, and since it normally resides in my Compaq or Libretto and only occasionally in my 200Lx, I obviously haven't seen any battery performance degradation. There are, of course, different kinds of cards. I'm afraid that I don't understand the differences well enough to explain them. I can only testify that the card I bought from Marcan appears to work well. Brian Sugita wrote: > > I just recently got a HP 200LX and joined this group. This may seem like a > silly question but I am looking to buy and Flash Card for my 200LX and i've > seen messages about volunteers to try and get a ST card to work and also > posts about how some people have been using there ST cards for months. Are > these two different types of ST flash cards? I found an add for a ST card > that stated it worked in the 200LX, will I have problems with it? Here is > the description of the card... > > Simple Technology > FLASH CARD 32MB ATA PCMCIA FOR NOTEBOOKS/DIGITAL CAMERAS/PDA > > Thanks in advance! > > Brian Sugita > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:03:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Dantin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Dantin Subject: MAXDOS problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having a problem with my HP200LX. It's a doublespeed, 5 meg machine (Times2Tech parts and software). When I'm in a MAXDOS session (just the DOS prompt, or running a program) and an Appointment alarm sounds, the machine sounds a single beep and locks up ( needed to reboot). I have the Alarm Beep set to "Beep". If I use the "-s" option from MAXDOS, all is well. Here's my autoexec.bat: @echo off prompt $p$g path c:\;d:\bin;d:\dos c: assign e:=a: set TZ=CST6CDT d:\bin\cic100 /gen 1 c:\utility\battlog.com c:\utility\maxdos -l -wc:\temp c:\buddy\buddy.com pause 200 c:\utility\maxdos -r And here's my config.sys: device=c:\_dat\spd31.exe rem device=c:\_dat\spdalrm.tsr buffers=20 files=30 lastdrive=J Any attempt to use the spdalrm.tsr results in a lockup at boot time. Any ideas? Thanks. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:47:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Leonard A. DeJesus" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Leonard A. DeJesus" Subject: Timetable for Palmtop? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Currently, I keep my train schedule on my 200lx as a lotus 1-2-3 sheet, but was wondering if anyone knew of a better approach, as in a DOS/EXM executable, or spreadsheet/GDB templates. Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard A. DeJesus E-Mail: ldejesus@wco.com Home Page: http://www.wco.com/~ldejesus -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 21:52:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash Card? Simple Technology FLASH CARD 32MB ATA PCMCIA FOR NOTEBOOKS/DIGITAL CAMERAS/PDA Oughta woik like a charm......... Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:25:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Franklin Eekhout Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Franklin Eekhout Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash Card? Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This usually brings up peoples flame throwers. But I would just like to say that Al Chin's posts nearly always bring a smile to my face. Why? His spelling is interesting, I get the feeling he misspells on purpose, he misspells so well. Curry on, Al! (More off topic junk, but I read that the topic police were off duty this weekend...Also, answer privately if you have to, my mailbox has been newly insulated with fire-retardent material and needs a serious testing. Apologies to Al if my post is inappropriate.) Have a nice day! Franklin -----Original Message----- >Oughta woik like a charm......... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:28:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? Comments: To: "Leonard A. DeJesus" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What's do you want done that your 123 spreadsheet doesn't do? (i.e. `better' for what?) Leonard A. DeJesus wrote: > > Currently, I keep my train schedule on my 200lx as a lotus 1-2-3 sheet, but > was wondering if anyone knew of a better approach, as in a DOS/EXM > executable, or spreadsheet/GDB templates. > > Thanks! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leonard A. DeJesus > E-Mail: ldejesus@wco.com Home Page: http://www.wco.com/~ldejesus > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 00:39:07 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Leonard A. DeJesus" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Leonard A. DeJesus" Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? In-Reply-To: <3616F963.E0122842@Home.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:28 AM 10/4/98 -0400, David Ness wrote: >What's do you want done that your 123 spreadsheet doesn't do? >(i.e. `better' for what?) Mine is just a simple list - just wondering if anybody had anything with some nice layout (okay, I am lazy :) ) - say I give it a time frame and station and it returns the next train due. Oh well, time to dig up that old 1-2-3 manual... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Leonard A. DeJesus E-Mail: ldejesus@wco.com Home Page: http://www.wco.com/~ldejesus -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:08:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: MAXDOS problem Comments: cc: jdantin@KIH.NET >I'm having a problem with my HP200LX. It's a doublespeed, 5 meg >machine (Times2Tech parts and software). >When I'm in a MAXDOS session (just the DOS prompt, or running a >program) and an Appointment alarm sounds, the machine sounds a >single beep and locks up ( needed to reboot). I >have the Alarm Beep set to "Beep". If I use the "-s" option from >MAXDOS, all is well. Message-Id: <19981004071235.OVQT13514@Ý12.64.8.182¨> Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 07:12:35 +0000 I use MaxDos, but normally don't use alarms (can't hear them anyway). I think the MaxDos documentation mentions using the Playex program (I think it's at SUPER) in conjunction with Maxdos for alarms. - Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 09:02:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1 day 12h53m02s ago ... On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Harris wrote: > ... > Nettamer has to be one of the worst pieces of software I've > ever worked with. Non-intuitive, lots of confusing messages, and no = PAL/LX > interface... I have to take exception to this assesment. Nettamer has been around a long time, and has gone thru several ( > 10!) Since it's first release. Dave Colston has always been very responsive in the past to help users get up and going...also very responsive in implementing new features. NT was the first reasonable EMail solution (IMHO) for the LX if CCMail wasn't available. It is not an LX specific program, so don't expect a PAL interface! Once you get used to it, the interface isn't all that bad. It does have a small footprint making it a viable Interntet suite for the LX. I haven't used NT for a while, but used v 1.07 -> 1.10 with great success! I would still recommend the program to those on a tight budget. > > WWW/LX is worth every penny. > Now I can't disagree with this comment ;-) Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 09:50:56 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Conrad Cox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:49:10 -0400, Al Kind wrote: > > >>HV is set up as a POST/LX external. I open the message in > POST/LX, then start HV from the externals menu. The message you were > reading in POST becomes the default message in HV.<< > > Bingo! Tip of the Month! > This sort of works, however, I've tried to view several and they were not decoded by HV. I made a test message and it worked. I think that the = e-mail to be viewed with HV has to start with . Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:39:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Simple Tech Volunteer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Peichl suggested: SP> My suggestion is: Make me available a 48MB CF Simple Tech card SP> with PCMCIA adapter. If I find a solution for the power SP> consumption problem, I may keep the card for free and make my SP> solution available as freeware for everybody. If I find no SP> solution, I will return the card at no cost. John Musielewicz suggested: JM> Marcan sells the card with adapter for 249. I'd be willing to JM> throw 20 in for the card. Jim Saklad suggested: JS> How about the 32MB SimpleTech compact card? JS> BuyComp ( http://www.buycomp.com ) sells that one (Part#: STI-CF/32) = for JS> $137.38. I prefer the 48mb CF card, because I want to backup my 32mb unit and I need additional space for use in a digital camera. However I guess it is to early. From the discussion on this list it seems to be not proved that every ST card drains the batteries very much. As long as it is not clear, if and which ST cards are power hungry, I don't know, which card I need for tests. Stefan Peichl -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:50:38 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: PE and IR (was: number of files in OPEN dialogue) Comments: To: Dan Sommer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What's the exact name and location of the new IR drivers that let you = prin from DOS? Have you actually run them? > First off, I'm having trouble getting them working, but it just may be my fault. I keep getting fail on int 24. I have limited access to IrDA printers, so I don't have alot of time to tinker. The lite on the HP Laserjet 6mp does lite, however, when I do copy config.sys com1. Maybe = you can figure it out. This result was from a file called irjeteye.sys There seem to be two DOS Ir drivers out there, one from HP at www.hp.com/cposupport/printers/software/dj346en.exe.html Also Extended Systems, makers of JetEye products have a DOS driver for = that IR pod thing they used to sell. I think that's the software I am trying. = I don't have the URl, but searching Jeteye on Alta Vista should get you = there. Get the DOS/Win 3.1 driver - like 285k. Also check this URL out. http://194.129.52.50/buds/technical/laserjets/5pir.htm I think theres something useful there, too. Please post results to the list and good luck. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:03:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Mir & the 200LX Hi everyone! As you know probably know I frequently use my 200LX to contact the Russian Space station Mir. I even contact the Space Stiation from my Sheriff's Department patrol unit. I use the BayPac modem and BayCom software to achieve this. Well I wrote the makers of the BayPac modem about a month ago praising their modem and telling them of my experiences with their products. They were very interested and asked for pictures in order to run a story on their web site about my experiences. I obliged them and now for all of you who want see what I look like I encourage you to take a look at www.tigertronics.com there's even a link to the LX Packeteers page. The coolest thing is that the Windows CE units with all their wonderful new technology can't run the software I used in order to accomplish the same thing I did. Let me know what you guys/gals think. 73 Jeff KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:29:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? Comments: To: "Leonard A. DeJesus" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, a while back my life was pretty much ruled by the Phila/NYC train schedule, and I found a couple of things helpful. First, I developed a process that would allow me to download the Amtrack schedules directly from the Net. While schedules don't change all that often, it is a nuiscance when they do, and this made the task of absorbing a new schedule a matter of a few minutes rather than a few hours. Second, I started to use what I think of as `Japanese Train Schedule' display. This way of presenting a schedule is hard to read at first, but once I learned I found it wonderful for giving me a `picture' of the schedule for decision making purposes. This presentation of schedule information is essentially in two dimensions with time running left to right and stations running top to bottom. This makes it easy to see fast trains (their lines are more vertical) and makes it easy to see when there are gaps in service etc. My advice, I guess, would be to concentrate more at the collection or the presentation stage. Leonard A. DeJesus wrote: > > At 12:28 AM 10/4/98 -0400, David Ness wrote: > >What's do you want done that your 123 spreadsheet doesn't do? > >(i.e. `better' for what?) > > Mine is just a simple list - just wondering if anybody had anything with > some nice layout (okay, I am lazy :) ) - say I give it a time frame and > station and it returns the next train due. Oh well, time to dig up that old > 1-2-3 manual... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leonard A. DeJesus > E-Mail: ldejesus@wco.com Home Page: http://www.wco.com/~ldejesus > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:58:26 +0200 Reply-To: Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hermann Kellinghaus Subject: Re: Flashcard Formatting Comments: To: Dan Sommer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan, I've used the W95 FORMAT prgr on a W95 PC with PCMCIA-slots. Maybe you can get around the version check - but I don't know if the W95-Format (which uses DOS 6.2 or higher) will run under DOS 5. Dan Sommer wrote: > > Hermann thanks for the good partitioning link. I found it very useful for another project I was working on. I couldn't, however, get the undocumented FORMAT A: /Z:1 to work on my 200LX. It comes up with "Incorrect MS-DOS version" when I run it. Did you format your 200LX for 1K clusters with the method you described or did you use another method? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hermann Kellinghaus ÝSMTP:Herm.Kellinghaus@t-online.de¨ > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 1998 1:22 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Flashcard Formatting > > > I tried using the utility on the super site 1kclust to format my 48mb flash > > card, but it says that it only formats up to 32mb as that is what the 100lx > > will recognize. Any hints on how to format on the 200lx for smaller than > > 4k clusters??? > > > > I) > There is a DOS Partition Manager including formatting, sources, good > explanations and all you need as freeware from > > Mikhail Ranish > ranish@intercom.com > http://www.intercom.com/~ranish or > http://www.ml.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~mranish > > Till now I didn't try the SW on my 200LX, because: > > II) > The DOS format prgr which comes with W95 has an undocumented switch: > > FORMAT drive: /z:n n=1,2,4,8,.. > where n is the number of sectors (512Byte) in a cluster. > > (I got this from the German PC magazine 'PC-Welt' 10/97 > www.pcwelt.de or CIS: GO PCWELT) > > BTW: I've bought the 40MB ST PC-Card and use 1KByte clusters. > > Enjoy > Hermann > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:46:22 -0500 Reply-To: Wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter R Francis Organization: The hand that uses the Amiga is the hand that rules the world. Subject: Neat headers from PostH, but undocumented? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've been trying to figure out how to set up PostH for nearly two weeks, the basic setup was easy enough, but I couldn't figure out how to really customize it or add the cool response delay line, Al Kind sent me his Editor line and I finally realized the Y12345Y line was doing it.. :) Here are those options, as I didn't see them really stated in the PostH docs. The settings are placed into the Y12345Y string, such as mine is Y02130Y is no composition date, second reponse delay, etc... 1: 0: No composition date 1: Local timezone 2: GMT timezone 3: Senders timezone 2: 0: No delay line 1: x days & HH:MM:SS line 2: XdXXhXXmXXs 3: 0: Asks about initials, no topline. 1: Topline, TZ of sender 2: Topline, TZ is GMT 3: Topline, TZ is local. 4: 0: No topline 1: Day, Date, Time, TZ, Name, Address wrote: 2: Day, Date, Time, TZ, Name wrote: 3: Day, Date, Time, TZ, Address wrote: 4: Day, Date, Name, Address wrote: 5: Day, Date, Name wrote: 6: Day, Date, Address wrote: 7: Asks about initials, no topline. 5: 0: No automatic initals 1: First two letters of name Na> 2: Same, but lowercase na> 3: Asks for initials to use 4: Asks to use initials, enter doesn't. Hope this helps, if anyone was confused about it as I was.. :) -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - HP200LX A2000 Alinco DJ580 Icom 281 Kenwood 530S o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:00:16 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , profengr@DELANET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert H. Pigford" Subject: Re: Simple Tech Flash Card? Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I bought a SimpleTech 40meg flashram card from Marcan recently ($159). It works great. I also ran LXCIC on it, and it reports low power status. Part No. STI-ATAFL/40. Go for it! Bob Pigford > Simple Technology > FLASH CARD 32MB ATA PCMCIA FOR NOTEBOOKS/DIGITAL CAMERAS/PDA > > Oughta woik like a charm......... > > Semper Mobilis, > yor pal al :) ............. > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:18:59 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Kramer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Kramer Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leonard A. DeJesus wrote: > Mine is just a simple list - just wondering if anybody had anything with > some nice layout (okay, I am lazy :) ) - say I give it a time frame and > station and it returns the next train due. Oh well, time to dig up that old > 1-2-3 manual... > I would suggest doing it in the database app. That way you can sort on ETD, ETA, station name, or whatever dynamically. You could also create subsets to show only certain stations, and view columns on different orders. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:48:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Conrad Cox Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Conrad Cox Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> ÝNettamer's¨ free, and it handles e-mail and newsgroups fine and fast. I agree it's kinda kooky though.<< And that's why I continued to use it for a long time. Especially the kooky part (g). These days I don't have time for the kook, so it's www/lx for me. Conrad Cox San Francisco Palmtop User Group http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox cdcox@ccnet.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:45:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) Comments: To: Jm Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, folks. It's amazing what you can do when you don't want to be working on your Ph.D. thesis. :) Please read on... The following post got me a-thinkin': On Sat, 3 Oct 1998, Jm Musielewicz wrote: > Have you used lxcic to check to see if your card is powering down? I > just used it to test my card and it correctly reported it as powered > down. If not you should contact either the distributer or Simple > Technology because you probably have bad cards. Otherwise Well, I hadn't used LXCIC, since I didn't need to. So I decided to try it to see what it does with my Simple Tech 40 MB ATA flash card. Remember my tale of a few days ago, where the Freecell winning screen had fast-moving cards when I had my ST card plugged in? After loading LXCIC (regardless of setting any parameters or none at all), the Freecell sreen had slow-moving cards again! Moreover, this effect persisted even when LXCIC wasn't loaded resident, and it also remained if LXCIC was loaded resident and then unloaded. If you take my word that this screen is an indicator of lite sleep, then it appears that the problem has been solved. However, I wondered what effect this now had on the speed of the card. I decided to run speed tests using the TEST.BAT file (sorry, don't recall the author) which was posted to this list back when we were deciding which cards were fastest. Back then, my 2X speed 200LX took 21 seconds to run the batch file when I was using an HP/Sundisk card. This same 200LX took only 8 seconds with my Simple Tech card. Today, after restoring light sleep with LXCIC, the Simple Tech card takes a whopping 118 seconds (yes, nearly two minutes). If I hold the SHIFT key down (which was reported to speed up certain cards) it takes 22 seconds, just about as long as the Sandisk card. Unfortunately, the faster speed of the ST card was one of the main reasons (along with cost) why I chose it over other brands. Now it looks as though it's actually much slower, unless you don't mind your batteries running down in half the time. So, I am wondering: Do the people with lousy battery life have defective cards? Or are the people with good battery life running LXCIC (or some other program which has the same effect), and they just haven't noticed that their flash cards are as slow as molasses in January? If those people who have ST cards could try running the TEST.BAT program under both 1) Their normal setup, and 2) Without any drivers loaded (except for 2X speed drivers), I think we can at least determine if the battery-hogging cards are defective, and the lucky people with good battery life will find out just how fast their cards are. This is the listing of TEST.BAT (run this from your flash card): @echo off copy d:\_sys\c123us.hlp test.dat echo.|time copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat copy test.dat test2.dat echo.|time del test.dat del test2.dat Cheers, and please try this out if you have a ST card! J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:33:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: MaxDos Question When using MaxDos am I correct in assuming that ut removes all TSR's from memory until switching back? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:12:00 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Hi/Lo tide calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does such a thing exist? Or are tides so affected by local ocean features that you can't really do it? Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? I've recently started going for a job along the beach, and I can't discern any pattern in the level of the tide. It seems to be (on consecutive days) hi, hi, lo, lo. But I *am* feeling pretty fuzzy at this time the morning! -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:12:58 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Is WinCE a health hazard? {Fluff} Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit When I first saw the headline that the EPA was investigating HP, I naturally assumed that they had determined WinCE to be hazardous to one's health! CORVALLIS, Ore. (AP) - Hewlett-Packard repeatedly attempted to stall investigators and conceal evidence during a two year investigation of a chemical manufactured at the plant here, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency charges in court documents. Friday, the EPA announced it is seeking a $2.5 million fine against H-P, alleging the company sidestepped safeguards in the manufacture and export of a printer ink chemical - a violation of the federal Toxic Substances Control Act. Copyright 1998 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:20:49 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Mir & the 200LX In-Reply-To: <199810041504.KAA03051x@scott.net> from "Jeff Johns" at Oct 4, 98 10:03:10 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > of you who want see what I look like I encourage you to take a look at > www.tigertronics.com there's even a link to the LX Packeteers page. Very cool. But where's the *coat-hangers* ?!! I want to see the coat-hangers. ;¬) BTW there's an article in American Scientist on the woman austronaut's experiences in Mir. She's on the cover, too. Reminiscent of adolescent A.C. Clarke *sigh* > Windows CE units ... can't run the software CE: Certain Eulogy -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:22:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: number of files in OPEN dialogue Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have PE, and use it with POST. PE is excellent. But I need infrared printing > capability, thus limited to Memo for my reports. I see. Well, Andreas is tinkering with IrDA and just sent a victorious message today - he has achieved some major breaktrhough. It'll end up somehow in WWW/LX Plus and Post/LX, maybe in PE? I dunno. Nothing to prevent you from saving to a file, then printing via Filer to IR, no? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:22:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back Comments: To: Darren Frick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Darren, > We don't want to be too hard on nettamer, though. It's free, and it > handles > e-mail and newsgroups fine and fast. I agree it's kinda kooky though. I It is shareware, not free! There we go again... Imagine there may be a link between the number of registrations and income derived and quality of program. Imagine EVERYONE with Nettamer registered. Imagine Dave Colson suddenly getting a bug to make it better for all the appreciative folks out there. Imagine D&A having to work their buns off to compete! :) I bet you never imagined this, nor that you'd see the D&A signature at the end of this message! :-) But seriously, VR stopped development because of the small number of registrations, FCL (Font loader) the same. Many other excellent and worthwhile efforts were choked off because we are cheap, as creatures :( ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:22:03 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: WWW/LX Newsgroup.... Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mikhail: > I agree. It is not often that one finds such a polished piece of > work. Thanks for the nice words. Some more spit an polish will be available early next week in the form of Post/LX version 2.2. Will be posted on the Webpage. I will have the highlights there too! > I especially like the "headers only" feature, which helps to tame > unruly mailing lists. It's quite amazing how headers, in combination With headers only, you can also do TopLines=n which will d/l the n top lines from the message in addition to the header, so you can even judge the content to some degree in the header-only download. > This particular list is highly informed and focused, but imagine > communicating with several hundred people of different socioeconomic > and educational backgrounds, connected only by some, relatively diffuse, > theme... What is it: alt.soc.multitude.backgrounds.unfocused? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:23:19 GMT Reply-To: Jm Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jm Musielewicz Subject: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) > restoring light sleep with LXCIC, the Simple Tech card takes a whopping > 118 seconds (yes, nearly two minutes). If I hold the SHIFT key down > (which was reported to speed up certain cards) it takes 22 seconds, just > about as long as the Sandisk card. The Simple Tech card. By the system clock it took 113 seconds by my desk clock it took about 45 seconds . Which is right? When I disabled the driver it took nine seconds. Both the system clock and desk clock agreed on that one. This is with AC connected. On battery power it took 9 seconds with lxcic unloaded (by the desk clock) and 45 seconds loaded by the deskclock. I ran it on my Viking card with lxcic unloaded and it took 11 seconds then loaded it took again about 45- 50 seconds. The Viking also has powersaving features- don't know if they ever worked or not but I have always had good battery life with the card in- NOT that I ever paid attention- BUT I have noticed battery life WOULD drop noticeably with the card in. I have been using this card long before lxcic was around. I checked with lxcic and it reported the card as powered down. Next I ran it on my EXP modem/flash card. It has its own flash card driver. With lxcic unloaded it took- 35 seconds. Loaded took 35 seconds. This card is working. This card also has powersaving features however lxcic reports this card as powered. Must be because of the modem. This tells me the Simple Technologies and Viking cards are staying in the powersaving modes with lxcic loaded. Looks like we need a new carddrv if you want fast speeds under AC or battery power and still have the card power down. John -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:44:06 -0700 Reply-To: dr7zyq@nidlink.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Rogers Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brendan Macmillan wrote: > > Does such a thing exist? Or are tides so affected by local ocean features > that you can't really do it? > > Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? > > I've recently started going for a job along the beach, and I can't discern > any pattern in the level of the tide. It seems to be (on consecutive days) > hi, hi, lo, lo. > But I *am* feeling pretty fuzzy at this time the morning! I am no expert, but won't let that stop me. The tides alternate hi and lo. Generally, they follow the orbit of the moon, the strongest influence. Hi tide today will be about an hour later than yesterday. But there are high hi tides and low hi tides. A low hi tide may be difficult to distinguish from a high low tide. (No, I am not making this up.) If the moon is directly opposite (i.e., on the other side of the earth at the time of a tidal surge, it will be a low hi tide, etc.) I am at the end of my memory of such things, but there are lots of books that cover it. All of this is quite predictable, because when we go to Monterey each year, we go to the drug store and pick up a copy of the annual tide guide. It not only lists high and low tides, but also high hi, low hi, etc., tides. David, WA7ZYQ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:54:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Neat headers from PostH, but undocumented? Comments: To: Wally@pop.uky.edu, Walter R Francis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:48:43 +0100 (BST) 06h59m08s ago ... On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 11:49:35 -0400 (EDT), Walter R Francis wrote: > I've been trying to figure out how to set up PostH for nearly two > weeks, Oops sorry about the difficulty. Many thanks for the excellent documentation Walter! I am the one who knocked POSTH together, and I agree the documentation is lacking. I must upload the latest version - actually I didn't think I had uploaded the one with that customizable options string. My memory must be going Regards, Tony -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:57:43 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Good FreeCell game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fans of Curtis Cameron's FreeCell may enjoy game number: 527000. I found this one more difficult than others I've played recently. Got a good one? Tell me! Russ Brooks -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:00:18 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Carrington Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Carrington Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The tides are directly calculated on the position of the moon and lesser so by the relationship of the moon and sun. Tides being greater when the sun and moon are on the same or opposite sides of the earth. When they are 90 degrees off the tides are the least varying. I have a program that calcluates the tides for you. It is an older dos program and works on the HP LX. It is somewhat slow and I don't remember where I got it but it is called Tides V3.09 . I had to pull my reference for Los Angeles area off of an older version because 3.09 didn't come with an LA reference. It seems that Tides has most reference options for the east coast of the US. But on the brighter side, check out this site: http://www.tides.com/prodinfo.htm They have a very nice graphical software that works on the HP. My wife wants to buy it some time for her palmtop as it looks much nicer than the older text "Tides". Dan Carrington Brendan Macmillan wrote: > > Does such a thing exist? Or are tides so affected by local ocean features > that you can't really do it? > > Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? > > I've recently started going for a job along the beach, and I can't discern > any pattern in the level of the tide. It seems to be (on consecutive days) > hi, hi, lo, lo. > But I *am* feeling pretty fuzzy at this time the morning! > > -- > Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 > > Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:00:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Mir & the 200LX Comments: To: bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU On 10-04 05:20pm, the following was written: > Very cool. But where's the *coat-hangers* ?!! I want to see the > coat-hangers. ;¬) Since Bredan is not th first person to ask the question about the coat hangers, here's a simple ascii picture to help explain the coat hanger concept. Please bear in mind that this is the DOS coat hanger version as the CE version is still under developement: o <-- plastic ring epoxied to top of | vertical element | | | <---- 19-1/4" long coat hanger vertical | element | | | /=======\ / ===== \ <-- 18" long coat hanger radials / ===== \ bent at a 45 degree angle / ===== \ / \ / \ The above picture is a side view. If you were looking down at the antenna you would actually notice that it has four radials that serve as the antenna's ground plane. The vertical element is soldered to the center connector of a SO-239 chasis mount connector. The radials are screwed to the 4 mounting holes in the SO-239 and I went ahead and added a bit of solder to the bolts, and nuts, I believe I used 4-40 size bolts and nuts. I epoxied a small plastic ring to the top of the vertical so that I could hang the assembly from the ceiling of my front porch. Too hook it to my radio I simply used 75ohm coax coupled with a PL259 connector that screws to the SO-239. > BTW there's an article in American Scientist on the woman austronaut's > experiences in Mir. She's on the cover, too. Reminiscent of adolescent > A.C. Clarke *sigh* Hopefully she's better looking than Clarke . > CE: Certain Eulogy ¬¬¬¬ I better not make any more comments on that for fear of some CE lurker on the list flaming me :-) I certainlly encourage anyone on the list who is either a ham or a scanner enthusiast to purchase one on the BayPac BP2M modems. Even if you aren't a ham you can use a scanner to at least copy Mir transmissions, you could also use it to recieve WEFAX (weather fax) images from NOAA & Russian weather satellites and you can even decode alphanumeric pager messages with the modem and POCSAG paging software available on the internet. All of this on the LX. They are nifty little devices. In case anyone is curious, they aren't paying me, I'm just a _very_ satisfied user of their products. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:42:01 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Mir & the 200LX In-Reply-To: <199810041504.KAA03051x@scott.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Jeff Johns wrote: > Hi everyone! As you know probably know I frequently use my 200LX to contact > the Russian Space station Mir. I even contact the Space Stiation from my > Sheriff's Department patrol unit. I use the BayPac modem and BayCom software > to achieve this. Well I wrote the makers of the BayPac modem about a month > ago praising their modem and telling them of my experiences with their > products. They were very interested and asked for pictures in order to run a > story on their web site about my experiences. I obliged them and now for all > of you who want see what I look like I encourage you to take a look at > www.tigertronics.com there's even a link to the LX Packeteers page. The > coolest thing is that the Windows CE units with all their wonderful new > technology can't run the software I used in order to accomplish the same > thing I did. Let me know what you guys/gals think. As others have already noted, this is very cool indeed! It's just a shame that Tigertronics got the link to the LX Packeteers page wrong. It should be http://www.primenet.com/~ac6rm/Packeteers.htm and not with a lowercase p, which is what they have on their page... Regards, Laust -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 17:48:59 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ray Wice Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ray Wice Subject: Re: pocket modem - more info Comments: To: Rick Kozak MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rick, I'm interested in getting one. What's the process? ...Ray > > Please email me if you want to buy. > > thx > rick > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:57:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Mir & the 200LX Comments: To: di980769@DIKU.DK On 10-04 07:42pm, the following was written: > It's just a shame that Tigertronics got the link to the LX Packeteers page > wrong. It should be http://www.primenet.com/~ac6rm/Packeteers.htm and not > with a lowercase p, which is what they have on their page... Laust and others, when the guys at Tigertronics let me know last night that the page was up I too saw the bad link. I have emailed the appropriate individual and it will be quickly fixed. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:29:37 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Little Fish Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Little Fish Subject: Re: cc:mail info Comments: To: Eric Wong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric, There are 2 ways : 1. Simply use ccMail tool to extract the data you want. 2. Buy ccMail's API interface utility and use C/C++ to programming the data manipulation. Little Fish -----Original Message----- From: Eric Wong To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Friday, October 02, 1998 11:13 AM Subject: cc:mail info >Hi, > >Are there any references available about the format of >the cc:Mail datafiles? (*.msg, inbox.{ccm,fld}, etc.) > >Thanks, >Eric > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 18:56:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Carrington Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Carrington Subject: Re: Good FreeCell game Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just tried it and went easliy through in one pass without backing up any. I guess I just started into it differently. Dan Carrington Russel Brooks wrote: > > Fans of Curtis Cameron's FreeCell may enjoy game number: 527000. > I found this one more difficult than others I've played recently. > > Got a good one? Tell me! > > Russ Brooks > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:08:48 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: To: David Rogers In-Reply-To: <3617FA36.4CEC@nidlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, David Rogers wrote: DR> All of this is quite predictable, because when we go to Monterey DR> each year, we go to the drug store and pick up a copy of the DR> annual tide guide. It not only lists high and low tides, but also DR> high hi, low hi, etc., tides. Unfortunately, the tides are also very dependent on geography. I used to vacation on Cape Cod a lot. the tides at the two ends of the Cape Cod canal arrive 3 hours apart. I have also vacationed on St. Thomas in the US Virgin Islands. There was practically NO tidal variation in sea level. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Saklad mailto:jimdoc@iname.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 02:22:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: number of files in OPEN dialogue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've tried that, seduced by the batch processing of files in filer. But Filer does not handle paragraphs very well: only prints the first line, does not break lines as word processor would. Mikhail > > Nothing to prevent you from saving to a file, then printing via Filer to IR, -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:55:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back >>> ÝNettamer's¨ free, and it handles e-mail and newsgroups >fine and fast. I agree it's kinda kooky though.<< Message-Id: <19981005035604.FYT28122@Ý12.64.36.94¨> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:56:04 +0000 >And that's why I continued to use it for a long time. >Especially the kooky part (g). These days I don't have time >for the kook, so it's www/lx for me. I dropped into this thread in the middle, so I'm probably putting my foot in my mouth, but I think it'd be more correct to say "NetTamer's free to try", since it's actually shareware and not freeware. I'm still using NT 1.08, having paid my dues. As to kooky, I thought that's what the WinCE crowd and we say about each other. It's not kooky if you know how to use it, and that being the case, I'm still waiting for a Post/LX (or GP or ??) user to give me a compelling reason to switch. I'm comfortable with manipulating the address lists and the mail folders. I use Calvin as my mail editor (that alone should give away what a lost cause I am ), and I don't usually miss the cut/paste buffer a whole lot. - Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:55:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) Comments: cc: grenert.james@MAYO.EDU >If those people who have ST cards could try running the TEST.BAT >program under both 1) Their normal setup, and 2) Without any >drivers loaded (except for 2X speed drivers), I think we can at >least determine if the battery-hogging cards are defective, and the >lucky people with good battery life will find out just how fast >their cards are. Message-Id: <19981005035612.FZX28122@Ý12.64.36.94¨> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 03:56:12 +0000 I'm the author of that flash card test. My battery times (measured via ABC/LX) using T2T's 1300mAh NiMH in my 6mb/2x LX has averaged 4-6 hours per charge, depending on use. I also use the 40mb ST card (STI-ATAFL/40) and usually run CIC100 after having some problems with LXCIC initially. In regards to your test query: 1) My normal setup runs the test in 6-7 sec (cic100,abctsr,etc) 2) All drivers removed gets the same, 6-7 secs 3) If I load LXCIC instead of CIC100, the time goes to 115secs as your results did. Very interesting, and as you found out, unloading LXCIC didn't have any effect. You should take time off from your thesis more often, tho I'm not sure exactly what we're seeing here (not knowing exactly what LXCIC is doing). - Longden -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:11:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Conrad Cox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Conrad: > >>HV is set up as a POST/LX external. I open the message in > POST/LX, then start HV from the externals menu. The message you were > reading in POST becomes the default message in HV.<< > > Bingo! Tip of the Month! Shame on you! :) This was in WWW/LX Plus Version 1 already!!!!! And you wrote an exquisite review on WWW/LX Plus V 2! Sheesh... I believe this tip was once written in PTP, months ago... Don't remember exactly. The GP review is very well done. But I have another option which I like better :-) ... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:11:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? Comments: To: "Leonard A. DeJesus" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Currently, I keep my train schedule on my 200lx as a lotus 1-2-3 sheet, but > was wondering if anyone knew of a better approach, as in a DOS/EXM > executable, or spreadsheet/GDB templates. If you want to put into a GDB, use Lotus to make a COMMA DELIMITED FILE from the Data. Checkout a program called 123DLM, an add-on to 123, which runs on the palmtop. A file like this contains records, and each record is made of fields, say, train number, departure time, departure location, arrival location, arrival time, and maybe even duration. So a train number 85 leaving location a at 8.00am arriving in location b at 8.50, then same train leaving location b at 8.55am and arriving location c at 10.30. The records might look like this: "85","locA","0800","locB","0850","0050" "85","locB","0855","locC","1030","0135" Depending on how your lotus spreadsheet is setup. Now, a program called GDBIO with DBIO will let you import a comma delimited file as above into a GDB. But you must make a small change to the CDF: Provide as the first line the names of the fields, EXACTLY as they show up in the GDB. So if the GDB you setup says: TrainNo DepFrom ArrTo DepTime ArrTime Duration the first line the the CDF must be "TrainNo","DepFrom","DepTime","ArrTo","ArrTime","Duration" Notice I changed the order of the fields between database and CDF? Then you feed all this to DBIO which will give it GDBIO and you have a GDB with train schedules. You can sort it and display it in any way you wish. Hope this helps. Enjoy! BTW, these programs are all on SUPER. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:11:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al, > > Nettamer has to be one of the worst pieces of software I've > > ever worked with. Non-intuitive, lots of confusing messages, and no > PAL/LX > > interface... > > I have to take exception to this assesment. Nettamer has been > around a long time, and has gone thru several ( > 10!) Since it's I think I have to agree that NT is certainly a starting point for the genre of programs on the palmtop which do email. It certainly serves many palmtoppers, and even many of our own customers... > It is not an LX specific program, so don't expect a PAL interface! But that is not quite so. The NT you d/l _is_ specific to palmtops even if not using PAL and all that. Try running the other version requiring a 386 chip... > > > > WWW/LX is worth every penny. > > > > Now I can't disagree with this comment ;-) I figured you won't! :) I found in the headers of the message you wrote the following header - a telltale sign of what you use: X-Mailer: POST/LX 2.1b :-) I think my partner will not shoot me if I say that NT really helped us. First of all we wanted to best it, secondly, it made for two Internet suites to be in this market, proving that internet work on the palmtop is a viable option. I suspect that GP and adaptations to the palmtop were all spawned by the fact that it was clear that internet work IS a reasonable thing to do on a palmtop. All in all, the presence of all of us has given the palmtoppers great options to chosse from, and has helped the innovation, which helped each of us to deepen the reach for customers, thus increasing tharanks of palmtoppers... Thank you Uncle Dave Colston! Thank you Steve Lawson, and whoever else I don't know their names, sorry! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 21:11:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Darren Frick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Darren, > This sort of works, however, I've tried to view several and they were not > decoded by HV. I made a test message and it worked. I think that the > e-mail > to be viewed with HV has to start with . Sort of correct. It will just splash text it finds prior to on the screen. When it finds it begins to "paint" the webpage. Try this little Web page: ---------- Some Text for Darren Frick Some more stuff... More junk words... V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc.

Welcome to HV - The HTML Viewer for the HP Palmtop Computers

Some example links: ---------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:49:57 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) Comments: To: "James P. Grenert" Well, I conducted the test. I have a ST compact 48 meg flash card. I booted up with only my double speed driver and ran the test from the dos prompt. Without lxcic running test.bat ran in around 9 seconds. With lxcic loaded, it took 2 minutes!! My question is why? What is lxcic doing? I thought you only needed a cic program for using the modem. -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments) http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:22:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge" Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan In-Reply-To: <199810042212.IAA03324@molly.cs.monash.edu.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, You could do a lot worse than download tide24.zip from http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html (a splendid collection of shareware and free ware for boat owners and GPS enthusiasts) This has pretty good global coverage of tidal harmonic constants and works just fine on my 200LX (it's a bit slow on a single speed unit, but then it is doing a lot of number crunching). The graphical output fits the screen nicely too. If you want to estimate currents as well as heights you could look at the tides303, 304 etc... series on the same site but the displays aren't as good on the palmtop. Best regards, Condor _\\|//_ ( O-O ) -------------------------o00--(_)--00o--------------------------------------+ Peter L.G. (Condor) Mockridge Software Engineering Supervisor, | Remote Systems Support and Engineering | (OS/Net/Seismos/GMG/PV/ProMAX) | | Schlumberger Geco-Prakla, Gatwick, UK | Voice : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6257 | Fax : Ý44¨ (0) 1293 55 6742 | Office: condor@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com| Home : condor@mistral.co.uk | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:38:25 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: {fluff} hi/lo tidal waves In-Reply-To: from "Jim Saklad" at Oct 4, 98 10:08:48 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > DR> All of this is quite predictable > Unfortunately, the tides are also very dependent on geography. For example, I live in a bay with narrow heads - it takes time for water to flow through. I guess one could model it with capacitance and inductance (or springs and dampeners), were one so inclined. Apparently in the UK, on the West coast (near Bristol, or north of it?) there is a channeling of the tide into a single river (ie, a wedge-shaped triangle of sea). The upshot is that the tide rises so fast there that you can surf on it, for miles inland... Can anyone confirm or deny this? -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:38:13 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: XT Emulator for the Psion 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Does this mean you can run Windows 2 on the Psion 5 ? ;-} http://www.nb-info.co.uk/xtminfo.htm Lets you run DOS on your Geofox-One or Psion Series 5 What is XTM? XTM is a software emulation of a classic PC/XT computer for the EPOC32 operating system. Within this standard application for your handheld computer, you can run any software which would run on a low-end PC clone from the 1980's. William D.Ll.Brown -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:59:51 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Darren, > > Sort of correct. It will just splash text it finds prior to on = the > screen. When it finds it begins to "paint" the webpage. > > Try this little Web page: > Whoa - there's a needed feature for the next release of POST/LX. Have a = one button solution that opens HV as an external and shoves an tag in front of those messages that are HTML but don't have the tag in = them. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:27:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil WHORTON Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil WHORTON Subject: Antw: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) Comments: To: grenert.james@MAYO.EDU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** Nur Empf-nger ** *************************************************** Phil Whorton Key Account Systemtechnik Hans Turck GmbH und Co. KG Tel (49) 208/4952-328 FAX (49) 208/4952-264 Mobile (49) 171/2254415 E-Mail Whorton=40mail.turck-globe.de *************************************************** >>> =22James P. Grenert=22 04.10.98 19.45 >>> Hi, folks. It=27s amazing what you can do when you don=27t want to be working on your Ph.D. thesis. :) Please read on... I tried the batch file on my 6M 2x 200LX and got the following results: C: drive 5 seconds A: drive (48MB ST) 6 seconds Battery life (the ST card is pretty well permanently in the LX) is 5-7 = hours. I disabled lite-sleep anyway, as I am currently using Clipper 5.2 = and have to wait long enough even with lite sleep disabled Phil -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:31:18 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... I think the HV searches in the first several bytes and if it doesn't find then it gives up and treats the hole message as a text. This message is shown by the HV as a plain text. Dejan Radic dradic@eunet.yu Belgrade Yugoslavia > Sort of correct. It will just splash text it finds prior to on the > screen. When it finds it begins to "paint" the webpage. > Try this little Web page: ---------- Some Text for Darren Frick Some more stuff... More junk words... V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc.

Welcome to HV - The HTML Viewer for the HP Palmtop Computers

Some example links: -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:38:31 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit XTM - a DOS emulator for your Psion 5! - Yes your old MS-DOS/DR-DOS software can live again! - In your pocket. For more details and a free download www.nb-info.co.uk/xtminfo.htm Runs like an old XT - but runs all the same! Regards to all.....Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:52:17 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: {fluff} The severn bore Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Apparently in the UK, on the West coast (near Bristol, or north of it?) >there is a channeling of the tide into a single river (ie, a wedge-shaped >triangle of sea). The upshot is that the tide rises so fast there that >you can surf on it, for miles inland... Correct......it is the river Severn if my memory serves me right and I have seen footage of a man surfing it on a malibu board The old story......have a look.....sure as eggs it's on the Web 8-) http://web.ukonline.co.uk/zamberlan/hist-geog/s-bore.htm http://web.ukonline.co.uk/zamberlan/pho98/9803j17.jpg Regards to all......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:59:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? (Train prog) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There is a japanese train schedule EXM program. Find it here, along with several examples of schedule data. I don't translate Japanese, so you are on your own. ftp://ftp.vector.co.jp/common/dos/util/machine/hp/train/train261.lzh ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:59:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jim: 11h11m60s ago ... On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, Jim Saklad wrote: > .. > Unfortunately, the tides are also very dependent on geography. I used = to > vacation on Cape Cod a lot. the tides at the two ends of the Cape Cod > canal arrive 3 hours apart... Where 'bouts? I spent most of my Augusts in Orleans int he 70's & 80's. Now that I'm "Married w/ Children" I think its time to go back! The 3Hr difference in Bay & Ocean tide used to drive me nuts, I was always getting them confused & spoiled a few fishing trips ;-) Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:59:20 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: manage HTML messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 09h21m03s ago ... On Sun, 4 Oct 1998, A. Meshar wrote: > Conrad: > > > >>HV is set up as a POST/LX external... > > Bingo! Tip of the Month! > > Shame on you! :) This was in WWW/LX Plus Version 1 already!!!!! And you = wrote > an exquisite review on WWW/LX Plus V 2! Sheesh... I believe this tip = was once > written in PTP, months ago... Like the man said "There's nothing new undr the sun" ;-) Avi: As another LIST member pointed out, it seems that HV does not scan the whole text for "" only the first few lines/characters. Perhaps this could be changed in future revisions (I confess, I haven't loaded the newest rev of HV yet). Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:26:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ron Rivers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Rivers Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator Comments: cc: Brendan Macmillan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Nautical Software has a program called Tides & Currents for DOS that works well on the HP200LX. It includes Moon Data, Daily Highs and Lows for specific locations as well as Average Tides. I not sure if it is still available. I purchased it early in the spring. http://www.tides.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Brendan Macmillan ÝSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨ > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 6:12 PM > Subject: Hi/Lo tide calculator > > Does such a thing exist? Or are tides so affected by local ocean features > that you can't really do it? > > Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? > > I've recently started going for a job along the beach, and I can't discern > any pattern in the level of the tide. It seems to be (on consecutive days) > hi, hi, lo, lo. > But I *am* feeling pretty fuzzy at this time the morning! > > -- > Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 > > Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:56:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: simple tech ata flash cards (VERY interesting) Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:23:35 -0400 (EDT) 09h27m23s ago ... On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Longden Loo wrote: > 1) My normal setup runs the test in 6-7 sec (cic100,abctsr,etc) > > 2) All drivers removed gets the same, 6-7 secs > > 3) If I load LXCIC instead of CIC100, the time goes to 115secs as > your results did. Very interesting, and as you found out, > unloading LXCIC didn't have any effect. On my 8MB/2x unit with a new Simple Tech 96MB card the test takes about 7 seconds. Didn't try loading LXCIC resident, and after these reports, I'm glad I didn't. Using it non-resident from drive c: shows the card powered down. Running it from a: shows the card powered. Not surprising... Incidentally, the 96MB card uses 2K clusters vs 4K on some smaller cards. This card is new, and I've only completed one battery discharge cycle. It ran for about 3.25 hours with RS 850mAHr NiCads. This was almost all doing heavy writing - transferring a few megs of files using the IR port, so in "normal" use it should run longer. -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:49:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: {fluff} hi/lo tidal waves "tides are also very dependent on geography. For example, I live in a bay with narrow heads - it takes time for water to flow through." Yes, these rushes of water are called tidal bores and occur in places like the Bay of Fundy. They can also go up some rivers for 30 miles or so. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:05:36 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Agentrapid@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roy Stroud Subject: Re: Translating language files/ homepages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit can it be done, like the recent post about a 32meg conversion in German, how would you translate that homepage to english,use yahoo? lets see your ideas because I see a lot of reference to japanese, german home pages. HPLX users want to know! Regards, Roy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:19:55 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Anyone used GDBIO? Comments: To: stan_dobrowski@CSI.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:47 AM 14/09/98 -0400, you wrote: >Nick Marsh said: > >> I am trying to convert a .csv file to .pdb using gdbio. Has anyone done >> this before successfully? >> >> The instructions are easy enough but I get errors when running the >> program, like, brackets missing. I had this happen...with long records..set memo t a line length of 249 and reformat.. What happened is the lines have been split and then gdbio thinks the next line is a new record regards Russell -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:35:55 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Translating language files/ homepages Comments: To: Agentrapid@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >can it be done, like the recent post about a 32meg conversion in German, how >would you translate that homepage to english,use yahoo? lets see your ideas >because I see a lot of reference to japanese, german home pages. HPLX users >want to know!Regards,Roy I find the following site the best, did a fairly good job translating the German site of the 32Mb LXupgrade. Also trial software available for download however the German - English - German is 12Mb! (windows only 8-) Regards to all......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:46:27 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Translating language files/ homepages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >because I see a lot of reference to japanese, german home pages. HPLX >userswant to know!Regards,Roy >I find the following site the best, did a fairly good job >translating the German site of the 32Mb LXupgrade. >Also trial software available for download however the >German - English - German is 12Mb! (windows only 8-) >Regards to all......Liam What a twit...missed out putting in the URL.....try again http://babelfish.altavista.com/cgi-bin/translate? Love the name what smarty pants out there know where Babelfish comes 8-) hint Marvin didn't need one -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:20:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:07:56 +0100 (BST) 02h08m36s ago ... On Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:59:20 -0400, Al Kind wrote: > Perhaps this could be changed in future revisions (I confess, I haven't > loaded the newest rev of HV yet). Hi Al, I tried it and it worked. I have an HV dated April 98. Regards, Tony -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:23:13 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I wrote a program in a language call ASIC. It's a baby BASIC compiler that makes really small executables. It reads a text file that I can edit at will. Whenever I run the program it shows me a window onn the text file that is the time frame of +/- 2 hours. It displays the next train leaving within 20 minutes. It displays six columns of schedule times so you can keep broken into two groups of three. It also has two columns that show "minutes until next train" for each starting station. Each group has a starting station, an in-between station and an arrival station. It's not a very clean program and is pretty kludgey. I wrote the code for myself and hard-coded the file locations. It's called from a batch file that zooms the display first. I would be willing to give the whole thing over to anyone interested in making it a nice distributable application or anyone that wants to try and use it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Leonard A. DeJesus Ýmailto:ldejesus@WCO.COM¨ > Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 7:48 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Timetable for Palmtop? > > > Currently, I keep my train schedule on my 200lx as a lotus > 1-2-3 sheet, but > was wondering if anyone knew of a better approach, as in a DOS/EXM > executable, or spreadsheet/GDB templates. > > Thanks! > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leonard A. DeJesus > E-Mail: ldejesus@wco.com Home Page: http://www.wco.com/~ldejesus > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:39:34 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: MaxDos Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I think it only removes TSRs loaded AFTER maxdos in the autoexec. It will keep the ones loaded before. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Johns Ýmailto:jeffj@SCOTT.NET¨ > Sent: Sunday, October 04, 1998 4:34 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ MaxDos Question > > > When using MaxDos am I correct in assuming that ut removes > all TSR's from > memory until switching back? > > 73 Jeff > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol > Captain | > | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County > Sheriff's Dept | > | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, > AL USA | > =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam > -=-=-=-=-=-= > > > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) REGISTERED > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:04:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) In-Reply-To: <002201bdf054$b1541a40$95ac0ecb@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:38 PM 10/5/98 +0800, you wrote: >XTM - a DOS emulator for your Psion 5! >- Yes your old MS-DOS/DR-DOS software can live again! - In your >pocket. My MS-DOS software has been living in my pocket since 1994! :) But, I guess if you have a Psion 5, this would be cool. Regards, Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:08:58 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Maddern Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Maddern Subject: Kick Start, Protracs and related software on the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 I came across the web site www.experienceware.com/html/palmtop.htm advertising low cost offers on:- Project Kick Start (project planning) Protracs (project scheduling) Art of negotiating Idea generator (brainstorming, problem-solving, free demo) all promoted as runnable on DOS and HP200LX for $29.95 whilst stocks last! Does anyone have any experience of any of these titles? They claim Kick Start is compatible with MS Project. I use Timeline 5.0 project management software from a 30Mb Pretec flash card on my 200LX but it's a "heavy" piece of software. I use Microsoft Project in work. I found a conversion utility to convert Timeline into MS Project available from a Microsoft site but I couldn't get it to work, hence I'd be interested in knowing what Kick Start (or Protracs) is like as well as the other two titles. Failing that, has anyone got experience of running Timeline on the LX and successfully converting the files into files readable by MS Project? Thanks Dr Peter Maddern Technical Manager North Wales, UK. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:08:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Liam M. Early > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) > Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 6:38 AM > > XTM - a DOS emulator for your Psion 5! > - Yes your old MS-DOS/DR-DOS software can live again! - In your > pocket. > For more details and a free download www.nb-info.co.uk/xtminfo.htm > Runs like an old XT - but runs all the same! Has anyone actually used this yet? Im curious if the speed rivals the 100/200lx. dan driden@stlnet.com > Regards to all.....Liam > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:40:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Timetable for Palmtop? Hey guys; Unless y'all got a pgm wit dancing girls, I think that Lotus is the best way to go. Not complicated and everyone"s got it. The only baggage is the data file. No mess, no fuss. KISS people. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:57:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Owen Are you saying a Psion 5 runs DOS? What version? Have you actually used it? Does it run the LX sysaps/database? Any net improvement? What are yor comments as to yea/nay. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:50:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Timetable for Palmtop? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > KISS people. If you want to keep it simple then use the published train schedule. .;-> The point is, you want something more useful than a printed train schedule. 123 is good when you need to need to analyze numbers but it's a not intended as a scheduling tool. I think a custom written app would do the trick and would do more than a piece of paper. The custom written app could be developed in 123 macro (yeesh!) or any other language. It could tell you which train leaves next based upon the current time stored in the LX. I wrote a similar app for myself and found it very useful when running out of the office to catch a train and needing to see which train leaves next ASAP. I've lived what this guy is going through and wrote an app to fill the need. Unfortunately, I'm not much of a programmer and though the code works well, it's somewhat hard wired and looks like spaghetti. It's also written in an obscure brand of BASIC. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:52:41 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried it yesterday and now MS-DOS 6.22 is working on my Psion 5. :-) It is very nice, but much much much slower than 200LX. It is even slower than my old PC-3000 palmtop computer. (8088-10MHz) Regards, Yujin >Has anyone actually used this yet? Im curious if the speed rivals the >100/200lx. > >dan >driden@stlnet.com > > > >> Regards to all.....Liam >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >> For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >> HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:54:58 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Al san, >Are you saying a Psion 5 runs DOS? Yes, it is a XT emulator just like XT-CE for Windows CE and you can run DOS on your Psion. >What version? I could run MS-DOS 6.22. >Have you actually used it? Yes, I installed it yesterday. >Does it run the LX sysaps/database? No. >Any net improvement? What are yor >comments as to yea/nay. It is just a emulator, so much slower than real DOS machine. Regards, Yujin ------------ Yujin Nagasawa State University of New York at Stony Brook ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp ------------- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:54:23 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981005160430.0079fa90@pop.hom.net> from "Owen Samuelson" at Oct 5, 98 04:04:30 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >XTM - a DOS emulator for your Psion 5! Any idea how fast? -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:25:06 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Palmtop won't turn on with flash card in MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Anyone seen this ? When I let the HP "fall asleep" with an auto power off I can't turn it on with first removing the flash card. I take out the flash card, turn it on, then reinsert the flash card. If I turn it off manually I can turn it back on again with no problems. The only thing I did was to leave it charging for two full days. When I picked it up after charging I use the standard charging regimen and don't use any programs to change the chargin cycle. I use the times2tech special NiMH batteries. The flash card is a (slow crappy!!) Pretec card. It's been fine for over a year and now this started. Any ideas? I figure I'll try the ol' remove the batteries for a day trick.... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:07:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: Yujin Nagasawa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Yujin Nagasawa > To: HPLX Mailing List ; Dan > Subject: RE: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) > Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 4:52 PM > > I tried it yesterday and now MS-DOS 6.22 is > working on my Psion 5. :-) > It is very nice, but much much much > slower than 200LX. It is even slower than my old > PC-3000 palmtop computer. (8088-10MHz) Hopefully it will get better. XTCE for WinCE started out Slowww but now is quite usable on many HPC's and PalmPC's. Dan > Regards, > Yujin > > > >Has anyone actually used this yet? Im curious if the speed rivals the > >100/200lx. > > > >dan > >driden@stlnet.com > > > > > > > >> Regards to all.....Liam > >> > >> -------------------------------------------- > >> ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > >> For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > >> HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > >-------------------------------------------- > >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:15:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Nakagawa san :) If it runs DOS V6x, It should oughta run sysaps as a connectivity pack, no? I run the connectivity sysaps databases on my desktop all the time. In fact I always use the desktop at home. Regards, Semper Mobilis, Anata no tomodachi al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:24:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: KISS the Lotus train schedule Okay, more thinking on this matter. It would be nice if the cell for the next train from the system clock will be bold and blink. id: the destination be BOLD and the dep time blink. It would be nice if there could be a DB pgm that would give just this info on a pretty screen but that would be a lot of work for a little mundane return. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:34:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Changing DOC to TXT In-Reply-To: <3618273D.89EBB979@microworks.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have been using DOC as the extension for savings memo files and want to change that to TXT to separate WORD files from MEMO files. Is there a way to easily change the extension of several dozen files as a batch? Thanks Alan -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:01:25 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: al chin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al san, You need to have an EGA or better display for the connectivity pack, but the emulator support only CGA. :-( Regards, Yujin ------------ Yujin Nagasawa State University of New York at Stony Brook ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp ------------- >Nakagawa san :) >If it runs DOS V6x, >It should oughta run sysaps >as a connectivity pack, no? >I run the connectivity sysaps >databases on my desktop all the >time. In fact I always use the >desktop at home. > >Regards, >Semper Mobilis, >Anata no tomodachi >al :) ............. > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:03:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yujin Nagasawa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yujin Nagasawa Subject: Re: Turn you Psion 5 into a HPLX 8-) Comments: To: Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan san, I hope so too! The emulator itself looks very nice, so only the problem is the speed. Regards, Yujin ------------ Yujin Nagasawa State University of New York at Stony Brook ynagasaw@ic.sunysb.edu QWK11240@nifty.ne.jp ------------- >Hopefully it will get better. XTCE for WinCE started out Slowww but now is >quite usable on many HPC's and PalmPC's. > >Dan > > >> Regards, >> Yujin >> >> >> >Has anyone actually used this yet? Im curious if the speed rivals the >> >100/200lx. >> > >> >dan >> >driden@stlnet.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> Regards to all.....Liam >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> >> ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >> >> For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >> >> HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > >> >-------------------------------------------- >> >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >> >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >> >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> > > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:43:55 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: Changing DOC to TXT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alan - you can do it in Filer, by selecting files with {space}, then {Menu}F and rename. Or, in DOS: ren *.doc *.txt Mikhail > I have been using DOC as the extension for savings memo files and want to > change that to TXT to separate WORD files from MEMO files. > > Is there a way to easily change the extension of several dozen files as a > batch? > > Thanks > > Alan > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:26:52 PDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , The Redeemer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: The Redeemer Subject: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive Content-Type: text/plain I picked up a used pcmcia floppy drive for a Compaq Aero 4/75. It's a series 2833, and it says "Replace with Compaq spare 190563-001". I am looking for some dos drivers for this so I can use it on my 200LX. I tried the Compaq site and couldn't find any. Anyone have any suggestions where to get them? Regards Adam Phipps. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:24:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: number of files in OPEN dialogue Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mikhail, > I've tried that, seduced by the batch processing of files in filer. But > Filer does not handle paragraphs very well: only prints the first line, > does not break lines as word processor would. That is because you use MEMO. Memo wraps lines on the screen, but not in the file itself! So your 15 line email is really one long long long line. You can use PE (still copyrighted freeware on our Web page ...) or press enter at the right column of each line in Memo to insert the CRLF character. Should I bet what you'll do? :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:35:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there. The Compaq floppy for the Aero will not work with any other hardware aside from the Aero itself. Back when I had an Aero, the question would come up periodically on the lists. Apparently the Aero had special routines built into the BIOS to use the floppy. -Bryan The Redeemer wrote: > I picked up a used pcmcia floppy drive for a Compaq Aero 4/75. It's a > series 2833, and it says "Replace with Compaq spare 190563-001". I am > looking for some dos drivers for this so I can use it on my 200LX. I > tried the Compaq site and couldn't find any. Anyone have any suggestions > where to get them? > > Regards > Adam Phipps. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:44:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: Re: Changing DOC to TXT Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum In-Reply-To: <19981006014355.AOF11540@attcanada.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Boy do I feel dumb for wasting bandwidth on this. I know how to do the rename in DOS, and never thought to try ren *.doc *.txt on a bunch! I hope you can hear the loud slap of the palm of my hand as it strikes my forehead (hard). Alan At 01:43 AM 10/6/98 +0000, you wrote: >Alan - you can do it in Filer, by selecting files with {space}, then >{Menu}F and rename. > >Or, in DOS: ren *.doc *.txt > >Mikhail -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 02:46:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Translating language files/ homepages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > because I see a lot of reference to japanese Is there a translation engine for Japanese pages? The site cited was generally European languages. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:49:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive Comments: To: reviler@HOTMAIL.COM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It won't work. Besides the huge current draw, I think it might have some special Compaq-only form of PCMCIA DMA which isn't normally found on most interfaces. On 10-05 04:26pm, you wrote: > I picked up a used pcmcia floppy drive for a Compaq Aero 4/75. It's a > series 2833, and it says "Replace with Compaq spare 190563-001". I am > looking for some dos drivers for this so I can use it on my 200LX. I > tried the Compaq site and couldn't find any. Anyone have any suggestions > where to get them? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBNhmFIiQDBDkqVuYdAQFpywIAqlCizewFrLp44rMGKeOuQKdC5LljZG4p VVk2bY9jNreXURhfD9Mk02NWAhueCwpry+ggWkvz3P5mbYmsgKcP4A== =m57i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:18:07 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: riley Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? thanks mike -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:56:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rudy Moore Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rudy Moore Subject: Time Request (and sorta tides, too) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1804928587-907645624=:29932" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1804928587-907645624=:29932 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I have have a nifty program that computes all sorts of interesting facts based on the current time and your Lat and Long. While, I could use GCC to compile a command line version of the code, I'm wondering if I could con any kind-hearted person with the 200LX tool set into making a nice looking version of the program. I promise a case of the finest microbrew in the area to be mailed to your home, should you undertake this little project. Probably, it could be extended to include tide information, too - but that's not required to win the free beer. On the other hand, I would (Really) like to see the information on the 200LX title screen, so it's always there.... I can't include the code as an attachment - it's about 10K. It doesn't use very much unix specific code - except for the code to read the time itself. But it does use quite a bit of math. Thanks! Rudy Here's a sample output of the software now. It's set up for Madison, Wisconsin - but that's just a couple of defines. ---- Mon Oct 5 22:45:07 1998 GMT 22:46:14 Terrestrial Dynamical Time Mon Oct 5 22:45:07 1998 Local Civil Time 16:47:49 Local Mean Time The Moon is 0.2 days past Full Julian Day 2451092.656 22:43:33 Greenwich Mean Sidereal Time 16:46:14 Local Sidereal Time 15:59:32 L.H.A. of Sun -5.014 Degrees Declination Azimuth 316.296 Degrees Elevation -43.660 Degrees Sunrise 07:00 Tomorrow 07:01 Sunset 18:30 Tomorrow 18:28 Moonrise none Tomorrow 19:27 Moonset 07:45 Tomorrow 09:01 ---559023410-1804928587-907645624=:29932-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 20:58:15 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems Comments: To: riley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain could you expand on the modems and give details? > ---------- > From: rileyÝSMTP:riley@IGLOU.COM¨ > Reply To: HPLX Mailing List;riley > Sent: Monday, October 05, 1998 8:18 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems > > cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? > thanks > mike > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:10:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gene Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gene Johnson Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Dejan Radic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Dejan Radic To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 4:32 AM Subject: Re: manage HTML messages > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > More junk words... > >I think the HV searches in the >first several bytes and if it doesn't >find then it gives up and treats the >hole message as a text. This message >is shown by the HV as a plain text. > > >Dejan Radic >dradic@eunet.yu >Belgrade >Yugoslavia > > >> Sort of correct. It will just splash text it finds prior to on the >> screen. When it finds it begins to "paint" the webpage. >> > >Try this little Web page: > >---------- > >Some Text for Darren Frick > > Some more stuff... > > More junk words... > > >V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc. > > > >

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> >Some example links: > > > > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:25:29 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan Lombaard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Lombaard Subject: Display problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My display developed a vertical blank line that disappears if I press just below the screen margin. Has anyone encountered a similar problem and if so do you know of a remedy? I would appreciate any suggestions. Regards, Stefan Lombaard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:01:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Turbo Pascal 5.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone want to sell or know a source for Turbo Pascal 5.0? I am currently using a version 3.01a for HP-150 which is not quite perfect, and not what I want to use. Thank you, Brian -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:31:27 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal 5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>using a version 3.01a for HP-150 which is not quite perfect, and not >what I want to use.Thank you,Brian >hope this doesn't bounce >best regards....Liam ooops sorry guys, I think I have just sent a binary to the group......once again sorry it it causes any hiccups, hopefully it will be stripped by the listserv. Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:29:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: LX Files Hi All; An easy question. Does anyone have a list of all LX files and what they do or know where to get such a list? TIA Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:17:49 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: LXCIC and flash cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How LXCIC works: After power ON, the BIOS invokes the memory card client. Every palmtop compatible memory card is recognized and configured. Then the bios checks, if another card client is loaded. This is the case when LXCIC is loaded resident. LXCIC now checks the ID of the inserted card. If the card is a modem card, it is put into I/O mode. If it is not a modem card, LXCIC does nothing. This happens after every power ON and seems to be ok for most modem and memory cards (at least for every card I had available for testing). From what is discussed on this list concerning Simple Tech memory cards, it seems that LXCIC has 'bad' influence on the speed of these cards. Because I do nothing with memory cards but identifying them, this must cause the problem. However I have no idea why identifying the card makes changes to the Simple Tech card's behaviour. Until I have such a card available and/or find a solution, you should use LXCIC in nonresident mode with these cards. Make sure to call LXCIC only, if a modem card is inserted. If you accidently called LXCIC with a Simple Tech memory card inserted, simply switch your unit OFF and ON again. This should reset the card to it's original speed, because LXCIC is not at all involved in this process in nonresident mode. Stefan Peichl -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:25:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Hi/Lo tide calculator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: Brendan Macmillan >Does such a thing exist? Or are tides so affected by local ocean featu= res >that you can't really do it? >Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? Lunation is the period of time averaging 29 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes,= and 2.8 seconds elapsing between two successive new moons. Maybe you could find out when the next high or low tide is and then bui= ld a tide program around the Lunation period. I think local tides are affected by the local geography but the overall= cycle has to keep in sync with the moon because that is what causes the tides= to change. Russ Brooks = -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:53:12 GMT Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back In message <199810050411.VAA10391@ftel.net>, sponsor@FTEL.NET said: > Thank you Uncle Dave Colston! Thank you Steve Lawson, and whoever else I > don't know their names, sorry! The list should certainly include Michael Leaver and Rod Whitby. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:30:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil Drummond Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil Drummond Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After removing the ">" added by this guy's email program, and correcting the obvious spelling and syntax errors, I was still unable to get M$ I-Explorer to "read" this bit of HTML. (yes, I _did_ rename the file) Anyone else have any better luck? Phil (uncorrected copy follows) >> >>V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc. >> >> >> >>

Welcome to HV - The HTML Viewer for the HP Palmtop Computers

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>> >>Some example links: >> >> >> > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:45:10 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Richard S. Nowakowski" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard S. Nowakowski" Subject: PocketZip compatibility ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Does any know if if the Addonics PocketZip with its external power cable will work with an HP200LX? The response from Addonics was uninformative. -----Original Message----- From: R.S. Nowakowski To: techinfo@addonics.com Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 10:30 AM Subject: PocketZip compatibility Richard, I do not know if this has ever been tested. I do know that it will not work with Win95 CE on the palmtops. Thank you, Addonics Technical Support > >Can you tell if the PocketZip with its external power cable will work >with an HP200LX palmtop (DOS-based)? > >Thanks. >-- > >********************************************************************* >Richard S. Nowakowski, Ph.D. e-mail: rsn@umdnj.edu >Department of Neuroscience and Cell Biology office: (732) 235-4981 >UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School lab: (732) 235-4647 >675 Hoes Lane FAX: (732) 235-4029 >Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 http://www2.umdnj.edu/~rsn/rsn.htm >USA >********************************************************************* > --- End Forwarded Message --- ********************************************************************* Richard S. Nowakowski, Ph.D. e-mail: rsn@umdnj.edu Department of Neuroscience and Cell Biology office: (732) 235-4981 UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School lab: (732) 235-4647 675 Hoes Lane FAX: (732) 235-4029 Piscataway, New Jersey 08854 http://www2.umdnj.edu/~rsn/rsn.htm USA ********************************************************************* -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:52:46 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , River Wolf Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: River Wolf Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive Comments: To: The Redeemer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It isn't just a matter of drivers. Compaq used some type of specialized hardware to accomplish it. I've been looking for a way to make this work with my Aero 4/25 since 1994. Good luck, though, and if you find a way post it because there's still tons of those Aero's floating around. BTW, has anyone ever tried to work with the Libretto drives? I had a Libretto but took it for granted that it wouldn't work. --Patrick McGouirk Computer Systems Administrator 13WMAZ -----Original Message----- From: The Redeemer To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Monday, October 05, 1998 11:10 PM Subject: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive >I picked up a used pcmcia floppy drive for a Compaq Aero 4/75. It's a >series 2833, and it says "Replace with Compaq spare 190563-001". I am >looking for some dos drivers for this so I can use it on my 200LX. I >tried the Compaq site and couldn't find any. Anyone have any suggestions >where to get them? > >Regards >Adam Phipps. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:25:35 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: HPLX-L Mail/Digest problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: There appears to have been some problem last week with some LIST members getting switched to DIGEST without requesting it. The problem seems to have originated from the LISTSERV maintainer's account at the University Computer Center. If you were affected by this, please send a message to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU With Set hplx-l mail In the message body. My apologies for the inconvienence. Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:18:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Info on DesignSoft's Palmtop Circuit, not much. Hello all, "What's Palmtop Circuit? This comprehensive piece of software package allows the user to sketch analog circuit diagrams and simulate their operation on your palmtop or desktop computer. Formation and testing of both linear and non-linear circuits may be accomplished in a matter of minutes with the CAE tools provided. Palmtop Circuit's so called 'Electronic breadboard' cut design costs and reduces the number of necessary experiments. With its built-in text processor,it's an invaluable tool for teachers when preparing problems and papers for students or demonstrating the operation of electronic circuits. At the same time, PaCi can serve as an affordable trainer of students at educational institutes. Applications are also facilitated through symbolic analysis and special display options, including voltage, ampere, impendance and power meters. The standard HPGL export transactions allow access to well-known packages like Wordperfect, AutoCAD, Xerox Ventura, etc. for high quality documentation. Paci can easily be customized to the user's environment by selecting the display type (HP95LX, 100LX, CGA, EGA, VGA, Hercules) and printer (9/24pin, laser, etc.) Roll-down menus, hot keys and a context-sensitive help system ensure user-friendliness. Circuit diagrams are built in an easy-to-handle schematic editor. Element symbols chosen from a component catalog are positioned by the cursor keys and rotated/mirrored appropriately. Derivative circuit diagrams may easily be obtained by modifying the existing schemes. Circuits may be evaluated by DC, transient or AC analysis. DC and transient modes accept linear and non-linear resistive, dynamic components. Electrical input can be driven by several available waveform options (pulse, unit step, sinus, traingle, general trape- zoidal) and parameterized as required. The resulting output is the electrical response. In addition the program displays the closed form expression of the response in linear networks. AC analysis accepts linear resistive dynamic elements and BODE diagram is presented. The program can also display analytic formula of the transfer function in relation to circuit parameters and complex frequency. Unknown circuit parameters can be dtermined automatically so that the network produces a predefined target value (eg. working point, output current, impendance). With the built-in interpreter, you can plot any function and compare it with the calculated numerical and analytical solutions. HW and SW requirements: HP95LX w/ 512KB RAM and 1MB PCMCIA flash/RAM card (for install, you need access to PC/XT/AT or compatible and HP95LX connectivity pack or equivalent to transfer files to palmtop.) HP100LX w/ 1MB PCMCIA RAM/flash card (conn. pack also needed) PC/XT/AT with 640KB RAM, one 1,2 or 1,44MB floppy drive or HDD VGA/EGA/CGA/Hercules card and monitor PC-DOS/MS-DOS 3.2 or later Add-ons for higher performance: HDD, printer. Supported: Epson generic Epson MX, RX, EX, LX, LQ IBM Proprinter IBM Quietwriter NEC 24-pin Toshiba 24-pin HP Laserjet HP Deskjet" That's all folks... At least for a few days. Will receive more info. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:51:09 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hans Peter Staber Subject: Re: Kick Start, Protracs and related software on the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable < I use Microsoft Project in work. I found a conversion utility > to convert Timeline into MS Project available from a Microsoft site but = I > couldn't get it to work, hence I'd be interested in knowing what Kick = Start (or > Protracs) is like as well as the other two titles. > I've no experience with mentioned SW. I'm using an old DOS version of MS Project which runs well on the HP200LX HP -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:40:42 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , prb@THINKAGE.ON.CA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Paul R. Bernard" Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive River Wolf writes: > BTW, has anyone ever tried to work with the Libretto drives? I had a > Libretto but took it for granted that it wouldn't work. Supposedly the Librettos have some extra BIOS support for the Libretto PCMCIA floppies. They do work in plain DOS 5.0. There is a beta level driver written for them (with source) for Linux. I will dig up pointers if anyone actually cares. I don't know what sort of power requirements the floppy has. With two motors to drive I'd be surprised if it wasn't well above the HP's limit. I'm not courageous enough to put it into my HP. - paul -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:11:18 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rknierim@FREEMAIL.NL Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Knierim - Subject: Greetings Hello everyone, I am a proud Dutch owner of a HP200LX. But I have a problem: You know www\lx? I have installed it but I can't get the script running. Can somebody help me with that. I would really appreciate it. rknierim@freemail.nl -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:09:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Subject: qfax Comments: To: hplx list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain has anyone succesfully used qfax on a 200lx with double speed, 32ram and software carousel? when I connect to the fax via modem it returns the message modem training. it does this 3 times and then hangs up. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:22:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive Darn, I had a second's worth of hope there. My aero was recently stolen BUT they left the drive behind; thought I had a cool new use ÝI'd tried it before, and it didn't work, but thought SOMEDAY I'd track down the drivers....¨. Oh well - is there any use for the drive, or do I offer it up for sale on an obscure newsgroup somewhere .... maybe I should offer it up in a free contest and then send all the applicants to the local PD to find the guys who got my Aero... ÝÝinsurance took care of me, but I didn't get anything as small and useful as the Aero, oh well, my replacement's more powerful.¨¨. --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:44:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hanacom@FEEDBACK.NET.AR Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Pablo KIM Subject: Re: LX Files Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM Hi, Al You can get it on the www.palmtop.net's Super page. Pablo KIM On 10-07 08:29am, > Hi All; > An easy question. Does anyone have > a list of all LX files and what they > do or know where to get such a list? > > TIA > Semper Mobilis, > yor pal al :) ............. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) EVALUATION -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:24:52 -0700 Reply-To: "HPLX Mailing List Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Compaq PCMCIA Floppy Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Darn, I had a second's worth of hope there. My aero was recently stolen BUT they left the drive behind; thought I had a cool new use ÝI'd tried it before, and it didn't work, but thought SOMEDAY I'd track down the drivers....¨. Oh well - is there any use for the drive, or do I offer it up for sale on an obscure newsgroup somewhere .... maybe I should offer it up in a free contest and then send all the applicants to the local PD to find the guys who got my Aero... ÝÝinsurance took care of me, but I didn't get anything as small and useful as the Aero, oh well, my replacement's more powerful.¨¨. --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:57:13 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: Hi/Lo tide calculator In-Reply-To: <5030100026797384000002L042*@MHS> from "Russel Brooks" at Oct 6, 98 09:25:42 am MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >From: Brendan Macmillan > >Or, can you calibrate your local tides with the orbit of the moon? > > the overall cycle has to keep in sync with the moon because that is > what causes the tides to change. It's like water sloshing in a bucket as you carry it along - hard to predict. But if each stride takes 29 days, then you'd expect it to be pretty much the same for each step. Another poster pointed out solar tides (I suppose there are also Venusian tides etc, but negligible ), which cause low high tides, and high low tides, depending on the angular position of the sun and moon with respect to us. This effect can be so strong so as to make a high tide look like a low tide, ie a lowered high tide can be *lower* than a heightened low tide. There might also be after-effects; ie even after 29 days, the water is still sloshing. This changes the starting conditions for the next stride... but this effect should be small. I have nothing but admiration for the people who worked out how to simulate all this! I've heard talk of over 100 "harmonics" for infering the tides. -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:01:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ted Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ted Heise Subject: Re: qfax In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote: > has anyone succesfully used qfax on a 200lx with double speed, 32ram and > software carousel? I have used QFax with success on my 32M double speed 200LX. Mine is not set up under Software Carousel, but I do not believe that is the source of your problem. > when I connect to the fax via modem it returns the message > > modem training. it does this 3 times and then hangs up. This is exactly the error I was up against a while back. After a couple of phone calls to the author, we concluded that QFax may have problems with modem connections faster than 9600. I tried using AT commands in the initialization string to limit my 14400 Megahertz modem (XJ2144) to 9600, but was unsuccessful. It seems that QFax resets to the highest possible speed (or automode). My solution has been to use my Megahertz 9600 modem (XJ196FM) for faxes, and the 14.4 for everything else. It offends my sensibilities to carry two modems, but at least they are small! Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:14:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: LX Files Comments: To: hanacom@feedback.net.ar An easy question. Does anyone have a list of all LX files and what they do or know where to get such a list? A small mod....... I wuz looking fer file descriptions of the LX files, not public domain files that work on the LX. Sorry fer the konfusion. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:41:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: QWERTY not always working... Hi All, I've seen this prob. on the list before (a long time ago) and emailed Thaddeus off-list too Ýbtw: Hal/Thaddeus folks, I'm still under the double-speed and mem. upgrade warranty, if that applies...¨ I've a new and *VERY* intermittent problem w/ the keys on my QWERTY row. My 200LX's KB has started to come up w/ a hesitancy to recognize key presses in the QWERTY row. I can fix this by trying to twist and bend the whole case a bit Ýapplying a bit of rough handling -- and, yes, it's enough to make me nervous¨ and squeezing the case with my thumb and forefinger, keyboard to underside, around the filer/appt keys. Is this the beginning of the end? ÝÝsay it isn't so!¨¨ It got its 2X and 32MB upgrade less than a year ago, could there be too much "stuffed into the case" that's causing some contacts to have trouble reaching? I have noticed it's a little plumper in the middle Ýaren't we all?¨, could a wire or two used in the upgrades have slid around? <> Since my latest bit of purposeful "twisting" it works fine -- I'm just worried about the problem coming back, or that it was a pre-cursor to a major failure... TIA for any advice, --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:46:12 -0700 Reply-To: "HPLX Mailing List Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: QWERTY not always working... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi All, I've seen this prob. on the list before (a long time ago) and emailed Thaddeus off-list too Ýbtw: Hal/Thaddeus folks, I'm still under the double-speed and mem. upgrade warranty, if that applies...¨ I've a new and *VERY* intermittent problem w/ the keys on my QWERTY row. My 200LX's KB has started to come up w/ a hesitancy to recognize key presses in the QWERTY row. I can fix this by trying to twist and bend the whole case a bit Ýapplying a bit of rough handling -- and, yes, it's enough to make me nervous¨ and squeezing the case with my thumb and forefinger, keyboard to underside, around the filer/appt keys. Is this the beginning of the end? ÝÝsay it isn't so!¨¨ It got its 2X and 32MB upgrade less than a year ago, could there be too much "stuffed into the case" that's causing some contacts to have trouble reaching? I have noticed it's a little plumper in the middle Ýaren't we all?¨, could a wire or two used in the upgrades have slid around? <> Since my latest bit of purposeful "twisting" it works fine -- I'm just worried about the problem coming back, or that it was a pre-cursor to a major failure... TIA for any advice, --tim CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 00:15:26 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: {fluff} hi/lo tidal waves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Apparently in the UK, on the West coast (near Bristol, or north of it?) > there is a channeling of the tide into a single river (ie, a wedge-shape= d > triangle of sea). The upshot is that the tide rises so fast there that > you can surf on it, for miles inland... > > Can anyone confirm or deny this? The Severn bore - occurs a couple of times a year at the time of the Equinox if I remember correctly. River Severn flows into the Bristol Channel at the England/Wales border near Bristol. If you look at a map of Britain you can see how incoming water from the Atlantic gets trapped in a narrowing funnel between the South Wales Coast and the North Devon and Cornwall coast. I think the bore gets to be a foot or so high. Now how did I, who grew up on one of the best surf beaches in Wales end up employed in land locked North Alabama? (No answers required). GaryS -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:13:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Watson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Watson Subject: Grouping db,memo.. files in System Manager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've seen apps that can group dos applications, but what I'm looking for is something that will group different files (phone, db) etc., representing them as a 'group' icon, or something similar in the system manager. I'd like to be able to do this so I could easily access all files to do with a specific project. Does anyone have any ideas, suggestions? Thanx in advance, John Watson -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:28:40 +10 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alain Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alain Subject: Going postal on desktop ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, is it possible to run GP on a desktop? Alain -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:53:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: {fluff} hi/lo tidal waves Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Apparently in the UK, on the West coast (near Bristol, or north of it?) > there is a channeling of the tide into a single river (ie, a wedge-shaped > triangle of sea). The upshot is that the tide rises so fast there that > you can surf on it, for miles inland... > > Can anyone confirm or deny this? The Severn bore - occurs a couple of times a year at the time of the Equinox if I remember correctly. River Severn flows into the Bristol Channel at the England/Wales border near Bristol. If you look at a map of Britain you can see how incoming water from the Atlantic gets trapped in a narrowing funnel between the South Wales Coast and the North Devon and Cornwall coast. I think the bore gets to be a foot or so high. Now how did I, who grew up on one of the best surf beaches in Wales end up employed in land locked North Alabama? (No answers required). GaryS -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:35:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: {fluff} hi/lo tidal waves Comments: To: Gary Spiers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Now how did I, who grew up on one of the best surf beaches in Wales end > up employed in land locked North Alabama? (No answers required). > It takes a rocket scientist to answer this! (gd&r) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:03:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Need an icon Can any of the icon artists that we have on the list help me out and provide me with an icon that is suitable for an alphanumeric paging program for my 200LX? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:07:09 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Freecell/Tetris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fyi... Curtis Cameron has released v2.6 of his FreeCell game. He has also created a Tetris game for our HPLXs. Thanks Curtis! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:19:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: To: wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU In-Reply-To: <199810070029.KAA21057@mail.alphalink.com.au> from Alain at "Oct 7, 98 10:28:40 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, sorry. I specifically prevent it as I'm not yet in a position to handle supporting all the weird combos. I've thought about releasing a version that would allow it, but there's not been that much demand for one. > hi, > is it possible to run GP on a desktop? > Alain > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:12:02 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Question about Icons Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was wondering how one goes about making an icon for the HP200LX? Is there special icon making software or can i make one in any old graphics editing software? Thanks! Brian Sugita =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:42:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Grouping db,memo.. files in System Manager Yes there is a way to do that, I think. You mean to create a group of databases as .xdb and have one icon represent them for retrieval? I can't think of the icon and utility that retrives them off hand, maybe someone else can help. Its a recent thing, within months. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:37:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Need an icon Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can any of the icon artists that we have on the list help me out and provide me with an icon that is suitable for an alphanumeric paging program for my 200LX? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:04:13 +0000 Reply-To: collib@forensic.sa.gov.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Barry COLLINS Subject: Re: A Different Kind of Millennium Bug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Greetings, especially to those who commented on the calendar (Millennium Bug) problem, Jorgen Dybdahl, Walter Francis, Sponsor, Avi Meshar and any others that I may have missed. The incident that I referred to was real enough, but I changed the situation slightly to emphasise certain aspects. We tend to assume that our way of doing things is the right or perhaps the only way. As most of you picked up, the first two parts of the date as put to my friend {11/12/..} could be interpreted as either 12 November or 11 December, depending on which part of the world you are in. Down Under here in Australia and New Zealand we naturally have to do things upside down, so normally {11/12/..} would refer to 11 December. So far so good. You may find this trivial but I myself was caught out the very first time I ever used my brand new 100LX. Having ordered the European English version or whatever, I thought no more about the matter and when eventually my imported Palmtop arrived I followed the instructions (as I thought) and entered the date as per the example provided on the screen. For those of you who remember back to those exciting and heady days of your first key entry, you cannot get the Palmtop going until the date has been accepted. I forget the precise date example given on the screen but it was like the one I just tried you with and I did not notice the alternative possibility (which turned out to be the required one in this case). I persisted with the Australian/English date and in the end I had to phone the special HP LX expert in Melbourne for help, muttering that it was a poor thing to have the unit fail before it had even got started. It was an embarrassing experience, though I was told that I was not the first person to get caught that way with the date. The next point emphasises the Millennium Bug problem. My friend was given the date {11/12/97} and as most of you noted, this refers more correctly to A.D. 97, rather than to last year, 1997. So when he keyed in 97 in his Unix program(me) the first time around, that's what he got; but not what he really wanted. The day of the week for that 11th day away back in 97 would have been a Monday; while for 1997 it was a Thursday. For those without access to such a date program, I guess you would have to go back to the beginning date of the HP date calculation progam on your LX, adjust for the lost 11 days and then use an algorithm to get back to the year 97. Maybe it all seems trivial, but such things are the stuff that will cost the world billions of dollars to fix over the next year or so. Be careful, Barry Collins -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:47:49 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Goran Johansson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Goran Johansson Subject: Ethernet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear fellow LX-ers, Another lurker coming out of the woodwork... I bought an Accton EN2216 ethernet card, and am trying to connect to ethernet by the procedure described in the PTP #1,1997 (the Japanese = number). My main interest is getting on a Windows95 LAN, because (as someone on = this list said) it's there! I have FTP'd home the MS DOS client sw (mswgcn.exe)= , but I haven't been able to find the W95 NDIS client driver. The drivers for the HP are supposed to be available in the file 2216HP.ZIP. Where can I get that? It's supposed to be on Nifty-serve but I believe you have to be a member/subscriber to access that. At least, I didn't succeed (but then my Kanji isn't too good...) What's inside this ZIP archive, and which file(s) do I need? Does anyone have any experience in this, and/or can someone pls help me find this file? Thanks Goran.. goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:05:39 +0930 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Ethernet Comments: cc: Goran Johansson In-Reply-To: Goran Johansson's message of "Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:47:49 +0200" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Goran Johansson writes: > I bought an Accton EN2216 ethernet card, and am trying to connect to > ethernet by the procedure described in the PTP #1,1997 (the Japanese number). You might also want to check out David Sargeant's 200LX Networking FAQ at http://www.hplx.net/netfaqhr.txt which has lots of useful information regarding ethernet networking. If you want to use standard TCP/IP protocols (like FTP, SMTP, POP3, NNTP), then you can use the Accton Ethernet Drivers and LXTCP (HP200LX TCP/IP Development Kit) both available from http://www.palmtop.net/super.html. I regularly FTP files between my palmtop and my Unix account via an Accton card at transfer rates of up to 100 Kbytes/second). -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:40:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Grouping db,memo.. files in System Manager Comments: To: John Watson In-Reply-To: <361AEA76.FCC0FBB9@interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:13 PM 10/6/98 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, > >I've seen apps that can group dos applications, but >what I'm looking for is something that will group different files >(phone, db) >etc., representing them as a 'group' icon, or something similar >in the system manager. I'd like to be able to do this so >I could easily access all files to do with a specific project. > >Does anyone have any ideas, suggestions? > >Thanx in advance, >John Watson I don't think the sysmgr can create icons which will access subdirectories with another group of icons. You can do this using HDM and DBVIEW available from S.U.P.E.R. You won't be able to edit the databases or phonebooks using DBview because they open as read only. You could also do this from filer by setting up your projects in subdirectories and then use Point and Shoot 'PNS200' from, you guessed it, S.U.P.E.R. You will loose the icon GUI though. S.U.P.E.R. is at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html Regards, Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:50:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Question about Icons Comments: To: Brian Sugita In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981006201202.007948b0@popd.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:12 PM 10/6/98 -0700, you wrote: >I was wondering how one goes about making an icon for the HP200LX? Is >there special icon making software or can i make one in any old graphics >editing software? Thanks! > >Brian Sugita Brian, highlight this file in filer and press enter: d:\bin\icn200lx.exe You can also download ICNVU from the S.U.P.E.R. site at: http://www.palmtop.net/super.html good luck, Owen -------------- Owen Samuelson, Amateur call: KU4ET LEAP YEAR DEFINED: The year is a leap year if it is divisible by 4 unless it's the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400. "Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of no practical value." A newspaper editor in 1865 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:17:47 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide- On The Palmtop! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi dear palmtop friends! As Hal Goldstein mentioned earlier, I am editing a bunch of HTML files of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide to be used with HV on the palmtop! What has to be done is editing of all the tables- which is not done in the HTML files for the moment. Since HV has some limits regarding tables, I am using the 
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command. The whole idea is that this palmtop version of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide will be available on Thaddeus next CD-ROM. So I have a deadline to meet. Since it's a lots of work to do for only one person, I would like to check if we have any peole on this list that would be interested in helping me to finish this? I only ask for 3 things: 1. You should have a hard copy of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide (So you can check so everything is correct). 2. Have an interest to assist me with this work and help me to meet the deadline. 3. To have HV and PalEdit (good editing tool) installed on your palmtop. If you would like to help me, please send an e-mail to my private address- and I will send you some chapters of the guide in HTML format for editing. How many chapters, depend on how many interested people that contacts me. When we have done this job, you will of course receive the full version = of the guide. Looking forward to receive some replies. Regards, Jorgen Wallgren -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:17:43 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: WWW/LX =>Serial Connection=> NT Workstation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi There, I have a tricky problem which I can't solve. WWW/LX supports a serial connection and I would like to connect my HP 200LX with a NT 4.0 workstation and send/receive my e-mail. I have heard that this works fine when you are using a Linux box, but how is it done using NT 4.0? One thing is for sure- the RAS must be setup to wait for a login via a serial port and if I am not wrong, the WWW/LX script should start with "$" (without quotes)- that is what I have tried so far with a result as you can see below. Since I am not sure if I setup the RAS in the correct way and if I must login with username and password e.t.c. I would highly appreciate if somebody with NT experience could tell me how to do this. Thanks and Regards, Jorgen =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WWW/LX 1.2b - Internet module for HP palmtop computers by A. Garzotto, August 1998 Copyright (c), 1996 - 1998, D&A Software Inc., All rights reserved. Licensed to JORGEN WALLGREN. 17196 bytes free. Connecting (Direct Serial Line)... Opening serial port 1 at 19200 baud... Serial port is ready. >>> Press CTRL to interrupt! <<< SEND '$' SEND '\r' Starting PPP negotiation. Negotiating LCP: Sending LCP option request *** TIMEOUT *** *** TIMEOUT *** 15:23:48 Sending packet of size 10. LCP type 1 id 1 *** TIMEOUT *** Aborting! Could not establish PPP connection. Closing serial port... Serial port is closed. Sent 0 IP packets Received 0 IP packets Received 0 bad IP packets Received 0 packets with unknown protocol Exiting WWW/LX. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:26:27 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: th@CSI.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... More junk words... >> As another LIST member pointed out, it seems that HV does not scan >> the whole text for "" only the first few lines/characters. >> Perhaps this could be changed in future revisions (I confess, I haven't >> loaded the newest rev of HV yet). > > Hi Al, I tried it and it worked. I have an HV dated April 98. I have the HV2.1a. This file (HV.EXE) was created on May 5, 1998, and it doesn't work with this message. Is this the last version of HV? Dejan Radic dradic@eunet.yu Belgrade Yugoslavia V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc.

Welcome to HV - The HTML Viewer for the HP Palmtop Computers

Some example links: -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:42:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: QUERTY not always working... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > My 200LX's KB has started to come up w/ a hesitancy to recognize key = presses > in the QWERTY row. I can fix this by trying to twist and bend the = whole > case a bit Ýapplying a bit of rough handling -- and, yes, it's enough = to > make me nervous¨ and squeezing the case with my thumb and forefinger, > keyboard to underside, around the filer/appt keys. > > Is this the beginning of the end? ÝÝsay it isn't so!¨¨ No, it is not. I have a similar problem with my 32MB machine. As you said, there is too much stuffed into the case causing some contacts to have trouble reaching. If I look at my case from the front side, I can even see the keyboard connector looking through a small notch caused by the plumper. As with your unit, I have to squeeze mine from time to time to make all keys working. However I do it mostly in the lower right corner, where the keyboard connector is situated. I know, time will come where I have to open the case and have to find a mechanic solution to put more pressure on the keyboard connector so that the contact to the motherboard (caused by pressure) will always work. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:02:02 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Faith in humanity restored every now and then. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Every now and then you come in touch with one of those rare people that restore you faith in Humanity Meet Jeff Peterson (I quote his latest email)................... Don't worry about sending the old one back. I'll drop another (the one I used in my test) in the mail tomorrow. The most important thing to me is that you get something that works properly. I know that if our roles were reversed I would just want to get my LX communicating. I have already meet my goal (I wanted to buy a PalmIII to play with) for my little sale and I'm just happy enough to see some unused equipment going to a good use. Believe me, if we were neighbors and you lived just down the street I would have given you a modem! I'm off to the garage to package one up, you'll see it soon! ------------------------------------ Jeff Peterson ------------------------------------ end quote................................................................. Wouldn't you just love a neigbour like this. Regards to all.....Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:06:53 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Going postal on desktop ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From: Alain >is it possible to run GP on a desktop? I tried it last night and it isn't. You get a message that it only run= s on a 100LX/200LX. I too would like a simple email client to run on my DOS desktop. Russ Brooks = -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:21:51 -0500 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Subject: Re: QUERTY not always working... Comments: To: stefan.peichl@METRONET.DE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Actually if you can see the connector, then either the bottom plastic and/or the keyboard plastic has been warped slight due to the installation of the upgrades. This can usually be fixed by taking the unit apart and bending both pieces to where they are bent towards each other. I can sometimes do this from outside the case by squeezing the front very tightly at the numeric keypad along the front and bending the bottom piece inward at the same time. Cheers, Mack -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:40:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: calculating distance & direction from coordinates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Could someone advise me as to how to calculate distance and true (to be converted to magnetic) direction between two points with known coordinates. I want to create a Lotus spreadsheet, where I would enter coordinates of where I am (from my old non-networked and non-graphic GPS) and get quick reference to a number of different waypoints at once. The GPS receiver can do it by itself, but only one waypoint at a time, and I always forget the cryptic keypresses required. This is for sailboat racing and cruising on Lake Ontario. I know that this may not be the best forum for such a problem, but someone might direct me to an appropriate resourse. Mikhail -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:18:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: LX Files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > An easy question. Does anyone have > a list of all LX files and what they > do or know where to get such a list? Tho 200LX manual includes a table listing all LX-specific file extensions, with a brief one-line description of what they do and which built-in applications they belong to. I don't remember the page number, and I don't have the manual with me, but I remember that it was in or before the chapter on DOS, not more than a few dozen pages away from a similar table of DOS reserved filnames and extensions. > Semper Mobilis, > yor pal al :) ............. Vaya ligeramente, B. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:22:06 -0400 Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Subject: Re: QWERTY not always working... Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 16h23m09s ago ... On Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:41:51 -0500 (EST), wrote: > I've a new and *VERY* intermittent problem w/ the keys on my QWERTY row. The keyboard connector is under the numeric keypad, if lightly squeezing around the 0 . keys then the zebra cable (as I belive it's called) isn't getting adequate pressure to make good contact. If you have the cookies :) for it, you can open the case (David's site, www.hplx.com describes it) and clean the little cable and reinsert it in the connector it'll probably work dandy. Just don't continue twisting her, you're going to damage the entire LX. :( -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:25:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: LX Files In-Reply-To: <85256696.005202EC.00@Manulife_Ext_Two@manulife.com> from "Bruce Martin" at Oct 7, 98 11:18:31 am Content-Type: text > I don't remember the page number, and I don't have the manual with me... There's one such table on page 22-10 entitled standard file name extensions which describes the files in the _DAT subdirectory. Then on pages 25-4 and -5 there are some tables describing file name extensions and their assoc. file types. Not exactly what was requested, but pretty close. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:39:31 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sounds to me like you've never lived the fast paced life of a railroad commuter. Everything... absolutely everything hinges on the train schedule. People spend lots of ime thinking about how much time they have to make a train because if you miss a train, you may have a half hour to kill before the next one. You may also get home so late the kids are asleep... that sucks! I used to have to allow 20 minutes to make a train. I would have to look at my watch, scan the train schedule paper and do a little mental arithmetic to figure out when the next train left and when I should leave. All this while I'm running across town to the train station or trying like hell to shut up a client that likes to hear themselves speak so I can go home.;-) - OR - I can have a application attached to hot key that shows me instantly what I need to know. Yes, it's a bunch of work to automate a manual repetitive process.... but then I guess that's the point of all applications development. I'm sure I can go on like this forever and not convince you of how useful an application like this would be. It's the ol' "walk a mile in man's moccasins if you want to understand him" thing. The concept of value being a very personal estimation is a common theme on this mailing list. Take care. > -----Original Message----- > From: al chin Ýmailto:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 7:25 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ KISS the Lotus train schedule > > > Okay, > more thinking on this matter. It > would be nice if the cell for the > next train from the system clock > will be bold and blink. id: the > destination be BOLD and the dep > time blink. It would be nice if > there could be a DB pgm that would > give just this info on a pretty > screen but that would be a lot of > work for a little mundane return. > > Semper Mobilis, > yor pal al :) ............. > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:01:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Problem: AC power sizzle noise, battery drain/error, on/off don't work, (AAARRRGH!!!!!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Well, I think I either have to send my HP to mack for fixin' or I gotta dig my poackets for a new one. Here are the symptoms: - When plugged in to the wall it makes a "sizzling noise" - The batteries get sucked dry in about 1/5 the normal time - When allowed to go sleep/suspend, it will not power back on until I pull out the PC card. I've tried two different cards. - I keep getting "Battery Error" messages It all started when I left the palmtop charging for about two days. I've done this before but... Any ideas/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:09:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Lotus G'day List; Is there any Lotus user on the list know off the top of their mind how to: Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. Thank you kindly. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:17:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: riley Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: riley To: HPLX Mailing List Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? thanks mike -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:26:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: KISS the (fluffy) Lotus request Hiya Eddie; I knowed whatcha mean a little). My boss useta do that trek. I lived in town and he lived (wayyy out) in the burgs with four kids and a mortgage. I never envied him. He was into the sched thing. I do see yor pointa view. I am another kinda train traveler, like ocean to ocean or Chiangmai to Singapore. The long dist once in a lifetime stuff. but I do it annually somewhere. We all gotta have our meaningful time killers. Thusly I asked if anyone knew how to make a lotus cell BOLD and another one b l i n k. I think KISS s/b pervasive (and best) in life no matter whatcha doing, originally call Ocham's razor? It doth reduce errors, at least makes them easier to find and sves time. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:36:32 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Padin wrote: > > Sounds to me like you've never lived the fast paced life of a railroad > commuter. Everything... absolutely everything hinges on the train > schedule. > > I have, and you're sure right. I found that learning to read `Japanese Style' schedules was just the right ticket for me, and though I use my computer to produce and print the schedules, I haven't yet made a `live' program---as the paper presentation does most of what I need. The nice thing about a Japanese Style schedule is that you get an instant `picture' of the schedule. Faster trains have lines that are more vertical. Gaps in the schedule are instantly obvious as they produce (physical) gaps between the lines representing trains. I also found, as an interesting aside, that this pictoral representation of a schedule sometimes suggested travel possibilities that I would never have considered without seeing the picture. For example, on my specific trip (NYC <-> Phila) there were occasional times that, given you were in Penn Station already, a Jersey Transit train to Trenton followed by Amtrack Trenton -> Phila was a cheap alternative that didn't cost extra time. Without a picture of the schedule I'd never have considered working out all the implications of the different schedules involved in such a plan. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:25:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Greg Renda Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Greg Renda Subject: Re: calculating distance & direction from coordinates Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Could someone advise me as to how to calculate distance and true (to be >converted to magnetic) direction between two points with known coordinates. Try http://www.best.com/~williams/avform.htm. It's got lots of formulas and examples. -Greg -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:38:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: Lotus In-Reply-To: <19981007.110306.11398.1.hobchi@juno.com> from "al chin" at Oct 7, 98 10:09:46 am Content-Type: text > Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. > Thank you kindly. Used to do this (at least the BOLD part) using WYSIWYG add on to 123. Not sure if anyone has WYSIWYG running on the palmtop or not... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:41:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe Barrera Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Barrera Subject: Re: Lotus Comments: To: al chin > G'day List; > Is there any Lotus user on the list > know off the top of their mind how to: > Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. > Thank you kindly. Al, I don't use Lotus much but I think I can still answer your question. For making particular cells stand out, I would recommend looking at fluorescent cell labeling, in particular PKH fluorescent dyes. You might want to look at http://www.fluka.sial.com/sigma/fields/pkhdyes/pkh.htm for example. You can definitely get BOLD and COLOR. (I don't know how the color maps onto the 200LX display; presumably there's some parameterized mapping to gray-scale.) I've not seen any dyes that do blinking, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. - Joe -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:41:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule In-Reply-To: <361B9890.A885B0BE@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Oct 7, 98 12:36:32 pm Content-Type: text > The nice thing about a Japanese Style schedule is that you get an > instant `picture' of the schedule. Faster trains have lines that are > more vertical. Gaps in the schedule are instantly obvious as they > produce (physical) gaps between the lines representing trains. You've got me curious... don't think I've ever seen this style of train schedule. I live in the southeast where train travel isn't very popular or very available. Can you point me to an example of such a schedule, perhaps on the web? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:43:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) In-Reply-To: from "riley" at Oct 7, 98 12:17:04 pm Content-Type: text > cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? Can you explain some of the features of these modems? Do they work with the HP200LX for example? Which cell phones do they work with? Are they exclusively for use w/cell phones, or do they double as land-line modems? Manufacturer? Model number? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:07:21 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Agentrapid@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roy Stroud Subject: Re: LX Files Comments: To: hobchi@JUNO.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit try SUPER under database files the one for all super files is there and has descriptions also , also try whats new, files, usually the last one is the updated db file. Roy -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:27:04 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Lotus Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I know that a macro can highlight a cell or range the same way you do it manually when you press "." and highlight a range. > -----Original Message----- > From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨ > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:39 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Lotus > > > > Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. > > Thank you kindly. > > Used to do this (at least the BOLD part) using WYSIWYG add on to 123. > Not sure if anyone has WYSIWYG running on the palmtop or not... > (snip) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:28:44 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Lotus Comments: To: Joe Barrera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Looks messy... > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Barrera Ýmailto:joebar@MICROSOFT.COM¨ > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 12:41 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Lotus > > > > G'day List; > > Is there any Lotus user on the list > > know off the top of their mind how to: > > > Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. > > Thank you kindly. > > Al, > > I don't use Lotus much but I think I can still answer your question. > > For making particular cells stand out, I would recommend looking at > fluorescent cell labeling, in particular PKH fluorescent > dyes. You might > want to look at > http://www.fluka.sial.com/sigma/fields/pkhdyes/pkh.htm for > example. You can definitely get BOLD and COLOR. (I don't know > how the color > maps onto the 200LX display; presumably there's some > parameterized mapping > to gray-scale.) I've not seen any dyes that do blinking, but > that doesn't > mean it can't be done. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:46:30 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , George Chow Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Chow Subject: Wither 36K from a DOS process... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D1_01BDF1DF.BE246860" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01BDF1DF.BE246860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I use one DOS app fairly regularly: DOS Quicken 7. I have it config as = requiring 450K but whenever it runs, it ends up taking 486K. I tried an = earlier version of Quicken with the same result (config+36k). Why is = this that there is an extra 36K of overhead associated with a DOS app? = Is there any way I can reduce this? Thanks for any pointers. George ------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01BDF1DF.BE246860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I use one DOS app fairly regularly: = DOS Quicken=20 7. I have it config as requiring 450K but whenever it runs, it ends up = taking=20 486K. I tried an earlier version of Quicken with the same result = (config+36k).=20 Why is this that there is an extra 36K of overhead associated with a DOS = app? Is=20 there any way I can reduce this? Thanks for any pointers.
 
George
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D1_01BDF1DF.BE246860-- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:36:30 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: calculating distance & direction from coordinates Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum , Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Could someone advise me as to how to calculate distance and true (to be > converted to magnetic) direction between two points with known coordinates. > > I want to create a Lotus spreadsheet, where I would enter coordinates I believe that at one time such a solution was in the cis libs. It linked worldtime data possibly with a lotus sheet and did what you want. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:36:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Comments: To: Ed Padin , Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Sounds to me like you've never lived the fast paced life of a railroad > commuter. Everything... absolutely everything hinges on the train Okay, you've convinced me. Now why not share your method/program with the supersite. (G) I understand the data is force-fed in currently but maybe it can be useful. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:36:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: QWERTY not always working... Comments: To: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain <> Raymond, when I emailed you privately, I hadn't realized you were still on warranty. We will fix the problem (and the latch too if you include this email) on warranty. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:43:03 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gerhard Gonter Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Netscape bookmarks -> GDB Comments: To: david@KRAMER.NE.MEDIAONE.NET Comments: cc: John Peckham In-Reply-To: <361156E6.3BF41F30@kramer.ne.mediaone.net> from David Kramer at "Sep 30, 98 04:41:13 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to David Kramer: > John Peckham wrote: > > Is there a utility to convert URL addresses from the Netscape bookmark file > > (bookmark.htm) to a HP200LX database (or at least some sort of text file)? If > Ý...¨ > If you open up your Netscape address book and choose File-> Save As, it > will save it in "ldif" format. The original question mentioned Netscape bookmark files and not the addressbook, which can be exported to LDIF. > If you need more help I can write a perl or awk program to get the > fields you want into something GDBIO can take. But Perl is handy for both applications, you can even avoid GDBIO ;) This is the heart of a perl script which actually does what John asked for, albeit it could require some more work: # --- begin DB handling in perl --- use HP200LX::DB ('openDB', 'saveDB'); $db= openDB ('template/bookmark.gdb'); tie (@db, HP200LX::DB, $db); @data= &read_bookmarks (shift (@ARGV)); foreach $d (@data) { $dbÝ$i++¨= $d; } $db->saveDB ('bookmark.gdb'); # --- end DB handling in perl --- I'll upload the complete script to http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/bscw/bscw.cgi/0/41420 under "Example Scripts". Perl programmers will notice this uses a package called HP200LX::DB which handles this kind of GDB, PDB and NDB operations. The most recent package (version 0.04) can be found on the web server mentioned above as hp200lx-db-0.04.tar.gz. If you intend to use this on other platforms except Unix, make sure to pick up "DB.pm - version 0.05" too, this fixes the old DOS-problem with binary files. NOTE: a known problem with the current package is that you can not create a database from scratch, you have to modifiy a template (such as the one at the web site). Also, the database's view point needs to be refreshed when it is first opened on the HP 200LX (press F7 and F10, this does the trick). The HP200LX::DB package is still listed as "under construction", version 0.03 can also be found on CPAN and should work too, if used under Unix. > This ÝLDIF file¨ is a text file you should be able to fold, spindle, > and mutilate to your heart's content. As a matter of fact, I'm also working on a perl package to deal with LDIF (and vCard, vCalendar). It has not been released yet, not even on my private web server, but feel free to drop me a line if anybody is interested in that or even want's to help! > Good luck. Good luck too! +gg -- Gerhard.Gonter@wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g.gonter@ieee.org Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:40:38 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I posted it on my web site: http://www.eclipse.net/~epadin/train.txt It's crap but, if you think you can make it work, have fun. I think if some cleans it up and writes it in a real programming language we can include it on super. BTW: I found out the hard way that the list is limited to 200 lines of text... yeeeesh! I guess it's necessary considering the limitations of some of the receiving machines (especially sans the expensive upgrades) > -----Original Message----- > From: F. Kaufman Ýmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 2:37 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ KISS the Lotus train schedule > > > > Sounds to me like you've never lived the fast paced life of > a railroad > > commuter. Everything... absolutely everything hinges on the train > > Okay, you've convinced me. Now why not share your method/program with > the supersite. (G) > > I understand the data is force-fed in currently but maybe it can be > useful. > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 03:52:43 +0800 Reply-To: cor.rivoli@flashnet.it Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teng-Yan Loke Subject: 200LX PalEdit In-Reply-To: <19981007.214421.6998.15.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The following is a question sent to me by one of my web site visitors. If you can, please help him/her. Thanks. Why when I use PalEdit from AppMan. it tell me that macros will not work and install NOFIDDLE. COM ? How I have to do to install that file? ---- Teng-Yan Loke aka Cow | lokety@bigfoot.com | www.bigfoot.com/~lokety PGP fingerprint F6 18 CE 37 4C 90 C4 C9 EE F1 D7 B0 5F AE D2 88 Prevent computer viruses. Install Trojans! -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:07:39 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , systemsconsulting@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems Consulting Subject: Re: Lotus Comments: To: al chin In-Reply-To: <19981007.110306.11398.1.hobchi@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al, If you're discussing the version on 1-2-3 on the 200LX (and you must be in this group ;-) ) there is no font or character attribute control. This was available in later versions of the DOS product. At this version level (2.3) the method was to install "Allways" from Funk Software. Still available but I don't think it will run on the LX Thanks, Paul Anderson President Systems Consulting Maximizing the Results of Information Systems 89 Main Street Broad Brook CT 06106-9701 860-627-5393 Voice/FAX www.Systems-Consulting.com ;-) -----Original Message----- From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of al chin Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 11:10 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Lotus G'day List; Is there any Lotus user on the list know off the top of their mind how to: Make a cell BOLD and another cell b l i n k. Thank you kindly. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:41:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: DIY Doublespeed upgrade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I am planning on upgrading my palmtop to double speed myself and am interested to know if: a) Is the replacement crystal speed exactly 32MHz, or is it 32.xxxx MHz b) I know that a CONFIG.SYS driver will be required to overcome some side= effects of the upgrade and believe the Times2Tech driver is only availabl= e to those who purchase the Times2Tech upgrade. Does anybody know of any suitable drivers available in the public domain that I could use instead.= Thanks for any help Laurence Harvey -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:42:52 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Ness Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ness Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Comments: To: "R. Christopher Lott" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had the same question from someone else. I'll be happy to look around. I know there was an example in one of Ed Tufte's great books, but don't remember if it was `The Visual Display of Quantitative Information' or `Envisioning Information'. So that's at least one source. I'll report back if I find one somewhere on the net... R. Christopher Lott wrote: > > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:25:56 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tried the demo, and found some confusion... You know, I doubt another palmtop has an application like Time Tracker/LX (www.dasoft.com). It almost makes me want to shout the praises of the LX, but not yet. I won't buy it until I or D&A figure out how to make it work just right. In theory, TT/LX is supposed to let me keep track of my time on tasks and projects. Now, I can only really "charge" my hours to one task at a time. (You know, lawyers and doctors can bill time in parallel, but the rest of us...) Okay, here's the problem: I create a task in TT and start it. Fine. Then I want to go to the next task, and build it. I remember to stop the preceding one on the first few tasks, but as the day gets going and the tasks pile up, I forget, and time doubles up. Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I begin a new one? And further more, it seems there should be a way to define a few tasks that I switch my time between all day, rather than having to create the same task five different times while juggling between a set of them. In other words, not only do I want the auto-stopping when starting a new task, but I want to be able to select already-setup tasks again and again, as ongoing projects. I want to switch between these tasks by the push of a button or two at most, and not worry about time being counted on two concurrently. Maybe in the advanced mode I can do this auto-stopping, auto-creating. Did I miss something? ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:33:07 -0800 Reply-To: parkiss@earthlink.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: S Parkis Subject: Newbie to Buy 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I've lurked long enough to decide I need one of these critters. Would appreciate some opinions and pointers on: 1. Where to purchase (i.e., good price). Mail order? Chain store? 2. "Essential" add-ons (cable, flash card, ...?) 3. Memory size--I'll be using it primarily for MASM, DEBUG, and BS2.EXE and associated source files. Will the smaller memory size work adequately for these? 4. Answers to any other questions I should have asked... Thanks, Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:53:14 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: DIY Doublespeed upgrade Comments: To: Laurence Harvey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:37:55 -0400 (EDT) 56m09s ago ... On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Laurence Harvey wrote: > a) Is the replacement crystal speed exactly 32MHz, or is it 32.xxxx MHz It's 31.673550 MHz > b) I know that a CONFIG.SYS driver will be required to overcome some = side > effects of the upgrade and believe the Times2Tech driver is only = available > to those who purchase the Times2Tech upgrade. Does anybody know of any > suitable drivers available in the public domain that I could use = instead. As I recall, there's a doublespeed driver included in lxpic.zip by Stefan Peichl. On SUPER. HTH -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Changing DOC to TXT Comments: To: Alan Peres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ala, In Memo, press Menu, Options, Setup and change DOC to a single *. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Darren Frick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Darren, >Whoa - there's a needed feature for the next release of POST/LX. Have a >one >button solution that opens HV as an external and shoves an tag in >front of those messages that are HTML but don't have the tag in >them. Nah! Let:s get serious here... Menu Xternal More Hv - that is 4 keys! You have got to be a major couch potatoe to want to save 2 keys (even if we programmed it, it would take Menu and something, i.e. two keys!) Gimme a break! Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Dejan Radic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I think the HV searches in the >first several bytes and if it doesn't >find then it gives up and treats the >hole message as a text. This message >is shown by the HV as a plain text. Let me do it this way. If you feed garbage to HV don't expect it to make a cake out of it! If a "webpage" does not contain the minimal tags it needs, what do you want it do? The HV/Magic-LX is not due to become public until February 31, 2000 - until then, tell the webmasters that put crap on the Web. I really really see no good reason to add code to clean up all the garbage after careless webmasters. Do you agree with me? This makes no sense to me. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:14 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al, >Avi: > > As another LIST member pointed out, it seems that HV does not scan >the whole text for "" only the first few lines/characters. >Perhaps this could be changed in future revisions (I confess, I haven't >loaded the newest rev of HV yet). I'd recommend AGAINST it. If webpages are invalid, I do not want HV to have tons of code cleaning up the garbage after someone could not care enough to write proper HTML - it is no rocket science. If it is an email generated from a MS word processor, well, howdy! Do you expect me to ask Andreas to make sure that if a Microshaft program screwed up he should put corrective code in HV? Not on your life. I won't do it even by email, despite the 8000 miles or so separating us. If I could be say on Betelgeuse or some other star in a distant galaxy, maybe I could be persuaded, but not while on the same planet - I still want to live the normal life expectancy, not kill myself. During HV beta we argued this to death. Andreas made a big concession finally, and that is what you see. The code space in HV is in EXTREME PREMIUM. My prefeference is to see SSL support in HV, not crappy HTML support. Do you think you can make a case to dump SSL support and make room to support crappy HTML coding? I doubt it. I'll take on anyone in the list to argue this, once! If anyone can argue this more than once they are out of their minds and should not be antagonised for fear of an outburst! ... So, let's spend some time under the thinking cap, and just kill this request. I think it is a waste, frankly. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > >Cheers, > >* ____ __ _ __ _ __ >* ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / >*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM >*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX >* |___/ >*Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd >*Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 > >-------------------------------------------- >***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** >For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : >HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:14:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: LX Files Thanks Chris It's a help. I was looking for a hackers map of wxactly what each file did. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:55:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Lotus "a macro can highlight a cell or range the same way you do it manually when you press "." and highlight a range." A macro is what I'm looking fer. yor pal al................... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:46:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Hey; I done that route too The Metroliner south to Philadelph I A. yeah....... In fact once or twice I went all the way to Yamase, South Carolina. Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:22:03 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gerhard Gonter Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Netscape bookmarks -> GDB In-Reply-To: <199810071843.UAA43092@zechine.wu-wien.ac.at> from Gerhard Gonter at "Oct 7, 98 07:53:37 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to Gerhard Gonter: > I'll upload the complete script to ÝURL¨ under "Example Scripts". The URL I posted works only for users with a valid userid on that web site, the public URL is http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/pub/english.cgi/0/41420 +gg -- Gerhard.Gonter@wu-wien.ac.at Fax: +43/1/31336/702 g.gonter@ieee.org Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:45:57 -0400 Reply-To: nickwb4sqi@wwd.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nick Marsh Organization: None at the moment Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) Comments: To: riley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit riley wrote: > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:18:07 -0400 (EDT) > From: riley > To: HPLX Mailing List > Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems > > cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? > thanks > mike > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I'll swap my CommWave 33.6 for one if you want. I'd like to try the cell thing. -- 73 Nick Marsh WB4SQI -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:05:37 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: riley Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) Comments: To: Nick Marsh In-Reply-To: <361B9AC5.7B5D@wwd.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII did you ever find the guy with the exp.I could not find him again what kind of phone do you have? mike On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Nick Marsh wrote: > riley wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:18:07 -0400 (EDT) > > From: riley > > To: HPLX Mailing List > > Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems > > > > cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? > > thanks > > mike > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > I'll swap my CommWave 33.6 for one if you want. I'd like to try the cell > thing. > -- > 73 > > Nick Marsh > WB4SQI > > > -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:09:48 -0700 Reply-To: "Tim S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Tim S." Subject: Top cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do topcards have to be 1 bit black and white pcx files? I'm asking because I got the latest palmtop paper and I see Ed Keefe's top cards on page one. They look pretty good. I thought they could only be 1 bit black and white. -Tim tim.shephard@bigfoot.com tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments) http://www.bigfoot.com/~tim.shephard -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:14:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." Subject: fax Comments: To: hplx list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain has anyone set up a system manager compliant fax program on the 200lx with 32meg, double speed and software carousel. I am a novice user and have had problems configuring bfax+ faxgui and qfax. i can't get qfax to run on this machine, however i have no problem with the strandard 2meg machine. is there an easier program or an easier way? thanks -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:13:32 +0930 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rod Whitby Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: ( Received on ftpbox.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com, sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com ) From: Rod Whitby Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: cc: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: Russel Brooks's message of "Wed, 7 Oct 1998 09:06:53 -0400" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Russel Brooks writes: > I tried it last night and it isn't. You get a message that it only runs on a > 100LX/200LX. > I too would like a simple email client to run on my DOS desktop. PNR (Palmtop News Reader) runs on both the palmtop and the desktop, and it's Open Source (see www.opensource.org). See my web site (under the LXTCP link) to download it. -- -- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation -- -- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia -- -- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501, -- -- Personal: rwhitby@iname.com -- -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:53:56 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: x2 speed upgrade & communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quote ----------------------------- >>with 32meg, double speed and software carousel. I am a novice user and >have had problems configuring bfax+ faxgui and qfax. i can't get qfax >to run on this machine, however i have no problem with the strandard unquote ----------------------- This triggered a thought with me I'm having problems getting a 14.4 Megahertz modem communicating. I remember the guy I bought the HP from telling me about a communications problem because the double speed doubles the baud rate? And on a major reboot / power loss when you first start up until you've re-installed the x2 software you have to set the filer comms transfer rate to half that of your transfer program (Tranfile 200). I haven't had to do this yet (it will be panic the day I do 8-) ) Could this be the problem with communicating?, for some reason should I be setting my Comms program baud rate to twice what it is set in Filer / Datacom? Currently when I file transfer with Tranfile I have both HP and tranfile set at the same rate and this works.....so I can't see why I would need to set different baud rates. I suppose what I'm asking in a nutshell is has anyone else had Comms program problems with double speed HP's? Best regards to all.........Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:19:19 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI: Anybody tried it w/ PALRun? 01h23m47s ago ... On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Rod Whitby wrote: > Russel Brooks writes: > > I tried it last night and it isn't. You get a message that it only = runs on a > > 100LX/200LX. > > I too would like a simple email client to run on my DOS desktop. > > PNR (Palmtop News Reader) runs on both the palmtop and the desktop, > and it's Open Source (see www.opensource.org). See my web site (under > the LXTCP link) to download it. * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:50:54 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Al Kind Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: x2 speed upgrade & communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:40:45 -0500 (EST) 01h46m49s ago ... On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Liam M. Early wrote: >... > This triggered a thought with me I'm having problems getting > a 14.4 Megahertz modem communicating. I remember the guy > I bought the HP from telling me about a communications problem > because the double speed doubles the baud rate? > ... > > Could this be the problem with communicating?, for some reason > should I be setting my Comms program baud rate to twice what it > is set in Filer / Datacom?... > > I suppose what I'm asking in a nutshell is has anyone else had Comms > program problems with double speed HP's? > The TSR that fixes the screen, fixes the serial lines as well. If you run your 2x machine w/o the spd31.exe(or similar), then you would need to 1/2 the bps rate on the LX to match the other device: in other words, if you were to have a catastrophic failure, and lose your c:\, to restore via the serial port, you might set your LX to 9600bps and your desk/lap top to 19200bps...of course if you had a FLASH card... ;-). Cheers, * ____ __ _ __ _ __ * ___ _/ / / ___ ____/ /_ (_) / /__ (_)__ ___/ / */ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/ / / / '_// / _ \/ _ / TEAM *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/ \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX * |___/ *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd *Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA phone / FAX (860)486-6126 / 6124 -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:30:02 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Comments: To: epadin@WAGWEB.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-07 11:40:01 EDT, you write: << People spend lots of time thinking about how much time they have to make a train because if you miss a train, you may have a half hour to kill before the next one. >> With apologies to Tom T. Hall, I sleep good, and I miss a lot of trains. Lynn M. Cavendish -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:41:26 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Cavendishl@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Lynn M. Cavendish" Subject: Re: DIY Doublespeed upgrade Comments: To: harvey_l@COMPUSERVE.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-07 16:42:34 EDT, you write: << I am planning on upgrading my palmtop to double speed myself >> Why? Times2Tech has invested a great deal of time and effort in developing and maturing an excelent system. If you want to do the work, they have a very favorably priced kit. The instructions are absolutely first rate, and the driver is (I understand) a level above any other driver available. Lynn M. Cavendish *** I have no interest in Times2Tech, other than being a Very happy customer. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:01:54 GMT Reply-To: at-grey@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Turley Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981007172556.00c789e0@comports.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:25:56 -0400, you wrote: >Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I >begin a new one? Now I don't use the program in question, but couldn't you just create a macro function for starting a new timed task? Create a macro that automatically stops the last timed task and adds a new one. @~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:30:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It shouldn't work, I specifically look for a LX. I'm thinking about allowing it to run on a non-LX "unsupported" somehow. I know there are issues to make it supportable elsewhere (not saying "LX", support for MDA video, com3/4, pretty up on a color display). I don't want to get sidetracked on these things when I have more I want to do that affects the LX version. As long as it's understood that I'm not working on the non-LX issues for some time, I wouldn't mind allowing it to run. Wadayallthink? On 10-07 05:19pm, you wrote: > HI: > > Anybody tried it w/ PALRun? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBNhwjwSQDBDkqVuYdAQHb5gH/ZurBpIxN75HqXorpTKzLa0/YDWbrKqts lH4Nh3aBiNJ3KOc5wvWNxu722NLzj3oUQrqInbUFIVUl4/qGdC8zWw== =5UQh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:04:57 +0000 Reply-To: collib@forensic.sa.gov.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Barry COLLINS Subject: SUPER-100LX Memory Upgrade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi to the 100LX-ers, I promised some time ago that I would look into the question of memory upgrades for the 100LX. It has taken a bit longer than anticipated, partly due to some ongoing e-mail problems at my end, but it is probably time to give you a summary of progress, so far. I have already told you of my decision to send my old 100LX to Kazuto Kitakubo in Japan as part of his private project to investigate the upgrading of such units. He was looking for another old unit to experiment on. He was very fair and said that there was a risk involved, in return for taking which I could end up with a 32MB machine. He even sent me colour photographs of several of the steps in a preliminary test on another unit before I made up my mind. I eventually gave it the go-ahead and posted my beloved 100LX to Japan. Well, it is definitely a red-letter day as far as I am concerned! I have now heard that I am the proud owner of one of the rarest 100LX units in the world! Since my unit is one of the older types, it may not be compatible in every respect with all possible add-ons, that remains to be seen; but for all practical purposes as far as I am concerned it sounds like the answer to a maiden's prayer. Now before you all write enquiring letters, it must be made clear that this was part of a once-off experiment and will not be repeated. Obviously I am deeply indebted to Kazuto Kitakubo, but in a sense I just happened (for once) to be in the right place at the right time. However, Kazuto Kitakubo has said that he will describe how to upgrade the RAM in a message to the HPLX List, so all hope is not lost. There was also a reference posted on Friday, 2 October, to a 32MB memory upgrade for the HP100/200LX and I know of someone here in Australia who is interested in developing this, possibly on a commercial basis. Most of the technicalities are beyond me, but it seems that, compared with the 200LX, the 100LX is more difficult to upgrade, the degree of difficulty depending on the variety of 100LX (and I don't know how many variations there are). Theoretically, all 100LXs could have a memory upgrade if sufficient time and effort were put into it, but the parts are not available through normal channels. Even if they were, the cost and the very limited number of potential customers combine to make it unattractive to the usual sources. That's the main part in a nutshell. I shall keep you posted and report on my SUPER-100LX when it arrives back from Japan. Keep your fingers (but not your keys) crossed. Barry Collins -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:57:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: To: stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM On 10-07 09:30pm, the following was written: > It shouldn't work, I specifically look for a LX. I'm thinking > about allowing it to run on a non-LX "unsupported" somehow. I > know there are issues to make it supportable elsewhere (not > saying "LX", support for MDA video, com3/4, pretty up on a color > display). I don't want to get sidetracked on these things when > I have more I want to do that affects the LX version. As long > as it's understood that I'm not working on the non-LX issues for > some time, I wouldn't mind allowing it to run. Wadayallthink? Just a thought, but since Steve has put so much time and effort into bringing the GP software to the palmtop community, maybe a desktop version could be included to people that register the LX version. Try the shareware on the LX, if you like it and buy it you could get two software packages for the price of one.... just an idea. 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:55:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: To: stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM On 10-07 09:30pm, the following was written: > It shouldn't work, I specifically look for a LX. I'm thinking > about allowing it to run on a non-LX "unsupported" somehow. I > know there are issues to make it supportable elsewhere (not > saying "LX", support for MDA video, com3/4, pretty up on a color > display). I don't want to get sidetracked on these things when > I have more I want to do that affects the LX version. As long > as it's understood that I'm not working on the non-LX issues for > some time, I wouldn't mind allowing it to run. Wadayallthink? I hardly ever use a desktop anymore for email, but in those rare occasions that I do it sure would be nice to be able to run a simple familiar email program.... like GP. So I vote yes, anyone want to second the motion? 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:28:26 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule In-Reply-To: <361B9890.A885B0BE@Home.Com> from "David Ness" at Oct 7, 98 12:36:32 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The nice thing about a Japanese Style schedule is that you get an > instant `picture' of the schedule. Faster trains have lines that are > more vertical. Gaps in the schedule are instantly obvious as they > produce (physical) gaps between the lines representing trains. This sounds really interesting! Sorry if I missed it earlier, but is there an example on the Web I could have a look at? > I also found, as an interesting aside, that this pictoral representation > of a schedule sometimes suggested travel possibilities that I would > never have considered without seeing the picture. > For example, ... Very cool! -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Voice + 61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps, dvi) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:43:59 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Becher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Grouping db,memo.. files in System Manager Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 200Mnu (On Super) will let you have a Sysmanager Icon which will then open up a menu app into which you can create any groupings you like. The program is text based rather than icon based. If you need help with it I can help you as I am the author ======================= David & Irit Becher davidb@netmedia.net.il ======================= -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:57:15 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: qfax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gosh, I find that qfax has a different response depending on the fax you call. I could neve get it to work and just gave up. Let me know should you have better luck. dave mar -------------------- Message text written by HPLX Mailing List > has anyone succesfully used qfax on a 200lx with double speed, 32ram and software carousel? when I connect to the fax via modem it returns the message modem training. it does this 3 times and then hangs up.< -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:17:35 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: Going postal on desktop ? Comments: To: Jeff Johns MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would be nice to have GP running on my 386 laptop, too. Only has a 20 = meg HD. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:56:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: HP200LX/HP1000CX?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, looking to buy a new HP200LX and in my searching came across the HP1000CX? I remember reading about these unit on one web page or another but can't remember where. What exactly is the 1000CX? It sounds alot like the 200LX. Is it the same unit under a different name? If not, what are the differences? Thanks! Brian Sugita =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:24:02 EDT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Darren Frick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Darren Frick Subject: Re: HP200LX/HP1000CX?? Comments: To: Brian Sugita MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi all, looking to buy a new HP200LX and in my searching came across = the > HP1000CX? I remember reading about these unit on one web page or = another > but can't remember where. What exactly is the 1000CX? It sounds alot > like the 200LX. Is it the same unit under a different name? If not, = what > are the differences? Thanks! > It's a 200lx with no built in applications. Just a straight DOS machine. Darren. "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!" -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:21:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: qfax Comments: To: "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:57:150, "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM> = wrote: > Gosh, I find that qfax has a different response depending on the fax = you > call. > I could neve get it to work and just gave up. Let me know should you > have better luck. Qfax 1.10 works great for me, send me a fax number and I'll fax you some thing. (:-) What problems are you having? Regards, Qman... Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:21:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Quinton Jones Jr Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Quinton Jones Jr Subject: Re: qfax Comments: To: Ted Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:01:32 -0500, Ted Heise wrote: > This is exactly the error I was up against a while back. > After a couple of phone calls to the author, we concluded > that QFax may have problems with modem connections faster > than 9600. I tried using AT commands in the initialization > string to limit my 14400 Megahertz modem (XJ2144) to 9600, > but was unsuccessful. It seems that QFax resets to the > highest possible speed (or automode). I use an external Ati 19200 with the LX set to 38000 on com1. Here is my initialization string: InitString AT&F2&C1&D2 Works every time! Send me a fax number and I'll fax you some thing. (:-) Regards, Qman... Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 07:19:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: HP200LX/HP1000CX?? Hi As is said it is a LX200 with no ROM aps. What did they want for it? Could you pass it on that I would like to trade for it if yu don't want it? Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:55:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Phil WHORTON Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Phil WHORTON Subject: Fonts for DOS / screen mode Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** Nur Empf-nger ** Hi, does anyone know of a possibility to get the same sized fonts under DOS as = in the buikt-in applications? I=27m writing a customer-based application using Clipper and my eyesight = is already bad enough without having to read such tiny characters on a = daily basis. I know I could use the CGA-40 mode but would like to have the 60(?) = characters available in the built-in apps. Thanks for your help in advance Phil *************************************************** Phil Whorton Key Account Systemtechnik Hans Turck GmbH und Co. KG Tel (49) 208/4952-328 FAX (49) 208/4952-264 Mobile (49) 171/2254415 E-Mail Whorton=40mail.turck-globe.de *************************************************** -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:56:23 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: at-grey@usa.net In-Reply-To: <361d0dcb.675836@smtp-gw01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:01 AM 10/8/98 GMT, Alan Turley wrote: > >Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I > >begin a new one? > > Now I don't use the program in question, but couldn't you just create a > macro function for starting a new timed task? Create a macro that > automatically stops the last timed task and adds a new one. Even assuming you use TT/LX (a DOS PAL program) in sysman, there is no way that I know for the Macro to determine the currently active task. I have tried, but no luck... ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:12:20 -0400 Reply-To: wally@pop.uky.edu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Walter Francis Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 14h37m07s ago ... On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:14 -0700 (CST), wrote: AK> As another LIST member pointed out, it seems that HV does not scan AK>the whole text for "" only the first few lines/characters. AK>Perhaps this could be changed in future revisions (I confess, I haven't AK>loaded the newest rev of HV yet). > I'd recommend AGAINST it. If webpages are invalid, I do not want HV to have > tons of code cleaning up the garbage after someone could not care enough to > write proper HTML - it is no rocket science. I don't think that this is the reason, I'm thinking of reading an EMail with a URL or another EMail address within it, viewing it in HV, clicking on the URL or EMail address and doing the appropriate thing. Not ignore HTML standards to view attached (or what not) HTML code. Do you see the value in this? My big computers EMail program makes such things automatic links, perhaps Post could do that and fire up HV pointing at the URL selected from the text. On a side note, for those who really want, I'll bet you could write a small batch file to put a / wrapper around the text before HV sees it, that might work. How does HV handle that (crappy :) situation, that being of having two statements. > If it is an email generated from a MS word processor, well, howdy! Do you > expect me to ask Andreas to make sure that if a Microshaft program screwed up > he should put corrective code in HV? I think people who don't turn off that *damn* annoying double-post 'feature' should be banned from the internet. HTML EMail is bad enough, but both in the same messsage is worse.. > Not on your life. I won't do it even by > email, despite the 8000 miles or so separating us. If I could be say on > Betelgeuse or some other star in a distant galaxy, maybe I could be persuaded, > but not while on the same planet - I still want to live the normal life > expectancy, not kill myself. Your lithium prescription run out, Avi? It's okay, Andreas probably won't have you killed.. > The code space in HV is in EXTREME PREMIUM. My prefeference is to see SSL > support in HV, not crappy HTML support. Sounds nice, rather annoying that the US government limits our SSL schemes, but heck, if it can't be cracked in under 30 seconds on a Gameboy then it's too secure for us, we made be hiding something from 'them'. > So, let's spend some time under the thinking cap, and just kill this request. > I think it is a waste, frankly. Hope you see what I am saying, speaking for myself only of course. Not sure what the desires of other posters have been, but basically being able to select URL's for viewing with HV and EMail addresses within text for easy messaging is what I see as value to this sort of modification, be it in Post or HV. -- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. . . Walter Francis _. KT4LH . - Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer o:o - . Wally@POP.UKY.EDU http://sac.uky.edu/~wally . --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- .. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:30:00 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hplx Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hplx Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To anyone who's registered TT/LX: Do you know whether the advanced mode auto-stops tasks when starting a new one (so it doesn't double-bill time)? How many copies of TT/LX has D&A sold, I wonder. Anyone else using it? ---- http://comports.com/hplx <--old stuff is new... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:56:21 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: Fonts for DOS / screen mode Comments: To: Phil WHORTON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:26:03 -0400 (EDT) 29m13s ....>> in the future <<.... On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Phil WHORTON wrote: > does anyone know of a possibility to get the same sized fonts under > DOS as in the buikt-in applications? I'm writing a customer-based > application using Clipper and my eyesight is already bad enough without > having to read such tiny characters on a daily basis. I know I > could use the CGA-40 mode but would like to have the 60(?) characters > available in the built-in apps. Hmmm... Fn-Zoom works in DOS, but I assume you want to automate the action. I don't know about using Clipper, as my preferred language is Forth. (OK so I'm eccentric). The generic way to zoom to 64 column mode is to put D081h in register AX and do Int 10h. To go back to 80 column put D003 in AX then Int 10h. I think these need to end in RET if done in Assembly. In my version of Forth they end with NXT. BTW - another handy thing for tired eyes is a block cursor. You could adapt this little assembly routine. mov ah,1 mov cx,7 int 10 ret HTH -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:45:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Fonts for DOS / screen mode Comments: To: Phil WHORTON , Phil WHORTON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > does anyone know of a possibility to get the same sized fonts under DOS as > in the buikt-in applications? > > I know I could use the CGA-40 mode but would like to have the 60(?) > characters available in the built-in apps. > Sure, Press the Fn-Zoom Key in Dos and confine your program to use 18 lines by 64 characters, I believe. There are also programs that can change the zoom mode from a command line or from inside the program. If you can dicker with code, you might be able to control it from within your own program knowing the development kit's info. Good luck -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:58:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "James P. Grenert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "James P. Grenert" Organization: Mayo Medical School Subject: Re: qfax Comments: To: "Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote: > when I connect to the fax via modem it returns the message > modem training. it does this 3 times and then hangs up. > I have had the same problem. I don't think it has anything to do with your particular LX. I think that qfax is simply a quirky program that likes some modems, doesn't like others; likes some FAX machines, doesn't like others. In the end, I gave up on it, realizing that having FAX capability was a lot less useful than having email. By the way, what kind of modem are you using? I had problems with a Megahertz 14.4K X-Jack. Maybe I'll give it another try now that I am using a different modem... Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@mayo.edu -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:09:55 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peniel Romanelli Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peniel Romanelli Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: wally@pop.uky.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:48:10 -0400 (EDT) 35m50s ago ... On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, Walter Francis wrote: > .., I'm thinking of reading an EMail with a > URL or another EMail address within it, viewing it in HV, clicking on = the URL > or EMail address and doing the appropriate thing... perhaps Post could = do > that and fire up HV pointing at the URL selected from the text. Post/LX already can do this. I use this feature pretty regularly. You have to set up a line in post.cfg to pass the URL to HV. The only "gotcha" is that the URL needs to be on a line by itself, not embedded in the text. (Hint: hit G when reading a message, and move the highlight with the arrows) > I think people who don't turn off that *damn* annoying double-post = 'feature' > should be banned from the internet. No argument from me! 8-) -Peniel ------------ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:32:19 -0400 Reply-To: nickwb4sqi@wwd.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nick Marsh Organization: None at the moment Subject: Looking for EXP modem/memory card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the following items available for swap to an EXP thinfax modem/memory card: CommWave PCMCIA 33.6 modem. Current drivers are available on their site. Zoom 33.6 PCMCIA 33.6 modem. Current drivers are available on their site. Megahertz 28.8 flashed to 33.6. Current drivers are available on their web site. Personal diet card for 95/100/200lx. Set up a diet based on your criteria. Compaq proprietary 4mb memory card. Looks like a PCMCIA card but has less holes for connector. Maybe for use in LTE386? I am looking for an EXP thinfax card with at least 2mb memory, would prefer more OR other LX accessories, serial cable, IR printer, etc. -- 73 Nick Marsh WB4SQI -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:48:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: riley Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? thanks mike -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:11:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R. Christopher Lott" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R. Christopher Lott" Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) In-Reply-To: from "riley" at Oct 8, 98 11:48:57 am Content-Type: text > Subject: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems > > cell ready modems new in box $20 plus shipping or trade for? Mike: Can you give us some details on these modems? This is the second time I've asked, and I think at least one other list member has asked as well. What make and model? PCMICA, External, or other? Will they work with land lines, or just cell phones? Which cell phones do they work with? What speed? What power source? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Huntsville, Alabama ************************************************************************ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:06:54 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: manage HTML messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Actually, only three keys: Both eXternal and More are represented by the same key- "X". Mikhail > > Nah! Let:s get serious here... Menu Xternal More Hv - that is 4 keys! You have > got to be a major couch potatoe to want to save 2 keys (even if we programmed > it, it would take Menu and something, i.e. two keys!) Gimme a break! > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:06:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mikhail Epelbaum Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikhail Epelbaum Subject: Re: fax MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrew: I use EXP fax - very successful, never a problem, highly integrated with Phonebook and Memo applications. But, of course, there is a catch: it comes with its own hardware. Fax software is in ROM. It uses its own fonts too. If you want to see what the output is like, give me your fax No, I'll send a small file over. Mikhail > has anyone set up a system manager compliant fax program on the 200lx > with 32meg, double speed and software carousel. I am a novice user and > have had problems configuring bfax+ faxgui and qfax. i can't get qfax > to run on this machine, however i have no problem with the strandard > 2meg machine. is there an easier program or an easier way? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:21:05 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Have you looked on simtel? I seem to recall there being a few proggies that fit this category. > -----Original Message----- > From: hplx Ýmailto:hplx@COMPORTS.COM¨ > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 5:26 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ TT/LX is a great concept, but... > > > Tried the demo, and found some confusion... > > You know, I doubt another palmtop has an application like > Time Tracker/LX > (www.dasoft.com). It almost makes me want to shout the > praises of the LX, > but not yet. I won't buy it until I or D&A figure out how to > make it work > just right. > > In theory, TT/LX is supposed to let me keep track of my time > on tasks and snip -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:36:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Using ACT! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking at this program again and I am beginning to think that it might be better than resident appt mgr/phone applications. I aminterested in hearing the opinions (either on list or directly) of people that have tried both. Thanks! Brian -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:45:31 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian McIlvaine Subject: Staying connected - Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am scheduled to go to France in two weeks for a week long conference. I currently use ccMail through palmtop.com, but don't want to have call long distance from France to keep getting my email. I intend to piggy back on my home AT&T Worldnet account and have two questions: 1. Can I use a HOTMAIL type service on the HPLX? With which software? (PNR, GP, WWW/LX)? My home acount is my wife's email account so I don't want to steal/intercept her email account. 2. Does AT&T Worldnet have outlets available in France? 3. What happens if I try to log on while my wife is online at home? (Probably a stupid question, but I have never tried it). On a completely off the topic subject, does anybody have any recommendations for where to eat / visit during my liesure time there? I'll profess my ignorance as a "nilkulturny" American, but I do enjoy museums, etc. Merci (Ok, that was probably a bit much) Brian -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:16 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: Developer's Guide on your palmtop! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi There! I am working on a HTML version of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide to be used with HV on the palmtop. The files are already in the HTML format, but needs editing of the tables- which for the moment doesn't exist. Since the best way to display a table when using HV is with the 
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HTML command, the editing is not that difficult- but it takes time when we are now only 4 people that will work on this. What I need is another 3-4 people that can help us. What you need: * A hardcopy of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide- so you can check that the formatting is ok (A CD-ROM version should also be ok). * Have HV and PalEdit installed on your palmtop. * Be very intersted to giving us a helping hand. If you feel that you would like to help us and have the above mentioned stuff, please send me an e-mail to jorgen@palmtop.net Thanks and Regards, Jorgen -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:08:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , jviehweg@GVMAIL.IH.LUCENT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Jaime A. Viehweg" Subject: Re: TRANS PC card problem In-Reply-To: <19981002093946.A5338@gv04072.ih.lucent.com>; from Jaime A. Viehweg on Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 09:39:46AM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, Oct 02, 1998 at 09:39:46AM -0500, Jaime A. Viehweg wrote: > Here's the problem: > Transferring from HP to PC using TransPC card works great. > Nice and fast and all that. > > Transferring from PC to HP always hangs after about 10k of > stuff being transferred. I guess I'm the only one with this problem...good thing I found a way around it! If I make the HP the "server" and use the PC as the "client", it does not work. If I make the PC the "server" and use "a:trans from to /r" it works fine. It is the "/r" part that does the trick. Perhaps if there was a TransPC card in the PC it would be happier??? Don't know, don't care! jaime -- jviehweg | Lucent Technologies @ Jaime A. Viehweg | - Bell Labs Innovations bell-labs.com | PacketStar(tm) ACS Lab Support -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:30:30 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steve Novosad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Novosad Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a thought, do you use a Lotus plot to create the "Japanese style" train schedule? I.e. x axis time, y axis distance from/to stations, and data labels for the stations? A B C D 1 0 10:30 Leave Station 1 Sta1 2 1.2 10:43 Arrive Station 2 3 1.2 10:53 Leave Station 2 Sta2 4 2.5 11:12 Arrive Station 3 Hit F10 for a graphic view. Steve -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:38:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Steven Lawson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steven Lawson Subject: Re: Staying connected - In-Reply-To: <0009A70F.3146@palmtop.com> from Brian McIlvaine at "Oct 8, 98 12:45:31 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am scheduled to go to France in two weeks for a week long conference. I > currently use ccMail through palmtop.com, but don't want to have call long > distance from France to keep getting my email. I intend to piggy back on my > home AT&T Worldnet account and have two questions: Seems like I heard that you could get POP access from palmtop.com by purchasing their enhanced service (wasn't it $60 one-time fee?). If so, then you could access it with any email software, like that awesome GP. :-) (ok, so I'm a tad biased..) > 1. Can I use a HOTMAIL type service on the HPLX? With which software? (PNR, GP, > WWW/LX)? My home acount is my wife's email account so I don't want to > steal/intercept her email account. HOTMAIL is web based, isn't it? That would require WWW/LX. Some webmail services also allow POP access, but I don't recall which. > 2. Does AT&T Worldnet have outlets available in France? Dunno, I think Earthlink does. Worldnet pissed me off, they are an excellent example of security gone overboard IMHO. I think I was on Worldnet last year when I went to Holland. All they had at the time was an 800 number, which didn't work from there, so I had to call long distance. I finally dumped them when I went to setup my web page for GP and needed my *third* password to ftp the files. I was already pretty annoyed with them firewalling their POP3 server so the only way I could check my Worldnet mail was by dialing up Worldnet (I spend most of my time on a LAN connected to a local ISP). -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:49:22 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Souza, Mr Stephen" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Souza, Mr Stephen" Subject: Re: Staying connected - Comments: To: "bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Here is something you can consider doing. Get a free AMEXMAIL.COM (USA.NET ) account. You can use any POP3 software to send and receive mail (5 MEG limit on mailbox). That why you can use your AT&T login and still have a separate send and receive e-mail account for your own use. Also I believe you can for a fee get access to the IP side of the (PalmTop.COM) cc:Mail post office. Stephen Souza Network Administrator COMNAVSURFLANT *TEL: (757) 836-3204 *DSN: 836-3204 *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian McIlvaine ÝSMTP:bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM¨ > Sent: Thursday, October 08, 1998 3:46 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Staying connected - > > I am scheduled to go to France in two weeks for a week long > conference. I > currently use ccMail through palmtop.com, but don't want to have call > long > distance from France to keep getting my email. I intend to piggy back > on my > home AT&T Worldnet account and have two questions: > > 1. Can I use a HOTMAIL type service on the HPLX? With which software? > (PNR, GP, > WWW/LX)? My home acount is my wife's email account so I don't want to > steal/intercept her email account. > > 2. Does AT&T Worldnet have outlets available in France? > > 3. What happens if I try to log on while my wife is online at home? > (Probably a > stupid question, but I have never tried it). > > On a completely off the topic subject, does anybody have any > recommendations > for where to eat / visit during my liesure time there? I'll profess my > ignorance as a "nilkulturny" American, but I do enjoy museums, etc. > > Merci (Ok, that was probably a bit much) > > Brian > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:00:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981008085623.00a4dbc0@comports.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Oct 1998, hplx wrote: > Even assuming you use TT/LX (a DOS PAL program) in sysman, there is no way > that I know for the Macro to determine the currently active task. I have > tried, but no luck... I don't think you can use a macro to intrude into a PAL program, so you're probably right: there's no way to do that with macros. I think you've got a good idea there. I recently (two days ago) got in trouble with my supervisor for an accidental double-time of the type you describe-- I had recorded two tasks at once. Perhaps Andreas could add a checkbox that would let you turn off "simultaneous" recording, or would automatically stop the other tasks? Another thing that would benefit me would be the ability to keep track of the various times I work on a particular project-- right now, I can only keep track of the total time. I actually did suggest this to Andreas a while back, but he felt it would require too much memory to track blocks of time. Perhaps the advent of 32MB and 64MB palmtops could fix this? :) Does Andreas monitor this list? If not, then Avi, will you forward this message to him and see what he says? -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:53:17 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Davis Chapel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Davis Chapel Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically > when I begin a new one? And further more, it seems there should > be a way to define a few tasks that I switch my time between all > day, rather than having to create the same task five different times > while juggling between a set of them. In other words, not only do > I want the auto-stopping when starting a new task, but I want to be > able to select already-setup tasks again and again, as ongoing projects. > I want to switch between these tasks by the push of a button or two > at most, and not worry about time being counted on two concurrently. I won TT/LX in a contest. I wish it could do this, too. Unfortunately, it doesn't. I mentioned it to Avi. He said they might look into it. I never heard more. Maybe if more people want it, dasoft.com will provide it. I still use TT/LX, but not as regularly as I want to. If it had a simple mode like this, I would use it a lot more. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:03:34 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Fwd: WWW/LX: Newsgroup messages keep coming back Comments: To: theise@netins.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >In message <199810050411.VAA10391@ftel.net>, sponsor@FTEL.NET said: > >> Thank you Uncle Dave Colston! Thank you Steve Lawson, and whoever else I >> don't know their names, sorry! > >The list should certainly include Michael Leaver and Rod Whitby. Thank you to them too! Thank to you for you ever-lasting vigilance! :) Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:03:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: Greetings Comments: To: rknierim@FREEMAIL.NL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Hello everyone, > >I am a proud Dutch owner of a HP200LX. >But I have a problem: >You know www\lx? >I have installed it but I can't get the script running. Can somebody help me with that. I would really appreciate it. Please write to support@dasoft.com - I'll get the email and see what I can do to help. Your email has hardly any information to go on. Please send to support@dasoft.com Thank, Avi Meshar D&A Software, Inc. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:03:57 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I >begin a new one? And further more, it seems there should be a way to No. But there is a single key to stop current and start another. >define a few tasks that I switch my time between all day, rather than >having to create the same task five different times while juggling between >a set of them. In other words, not only do I want the auto-stopping when >starting a new task, but I want to be able to select already-setup tasks >again and again, as ongoing projects. I want to switch between these tasks >by the push of a button or two at most, and not worry about time being >counted on two concurrently. Not in the product now. Interesting idea. >Maybe in the advanced mode I can do this auto-stopping, auto-creating. Did >I miss something? Worth looking into, no? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:03:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Phil Drummond MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Phil, you have an interesting Browser. The file below is almost as old as WWW/LX, about 3 years. Works fine for me in NS 4.06, MSIE 3.02, and HV. >After removing the ">" added by this guy's email program, and correcting The > were part of the quoting... >the obvious spelling and syntax errors, I was still unable to get M$ I'd like to know which spelling and syntax errors... (BTW, is an invalid tag, but I did not put in there :) ...) ---------- >(uncorrected copy follows) > >>> >>>V 2.1 by A. Garzotto, D&A Software Inc. >>> >>> >>> >>>

Welcome to HV - The HTML Viewer for the HP Palmtop Computers

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>>> >>>Some example links: >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:16:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Vickerman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Vickerman Subject: Flash Card Read Only HELP!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Smart Modular Technologies 4MB Fast Flash Card. The model number is sm9fa2043ip280. The Problem I am finding is that my 200lx shows it as not ready. When I take to my Note book the card shows empty. When I attempt to format it I get a read only on the card. This card came from a Cisco router I believe. Has anyone been able to turn off the write protect to be able to use this card. Thanks for any and all suggestions or help. BV -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 00:03:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Tetris I absolutely love this adaptation of Tetris for use on the LX. I don't think I have accomplished a worthwhile thing all day Since all I've been doing is playing Tetris . I wish Curtis could write us a Pac Man game for the LX, one that looks as good as Tetris. Thanks for all the other games Curtis and think about the Pac Man thing a bit... 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:11:06 GMT Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: qfax In message , grenert.james@MAYO.EDU said: > I have had the same problem. I don't think it has anything to do with > your particular LX. I think that qfax is simply a quirky program that > likes some modems, doesn't like others; likes some FAX machines, doesn't > like others. In my opinion, this is a pretty accurate assessment. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:08:57 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: Re DIY Doublespeed upgrade MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Lynn Cavandish wrote: >Why? Times2Tech has invested a great deal of time and effort in developing >and maturing an excelent system. If you want to do the work, they have = a very >favorably priced kit. The instructions are absolutely first rate, and t= he >driver is (I understand) a level above any other driver available. I am based in the UK, and when the cost of the Times2Tech kit plus carria= ge charges and UK taxes are taken into account, it seems rather expensive wh= en I can get the crystal for around $1-2 and I can fit it in 10 minutes, having access to the necessary equipment.= =2E Laurence Harvey -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:29:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Re DIY Doublespeed upgrade Hey, if you're that good, go to it. How would you like to do mine? :) Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 06:58:03 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Liam M. Early" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Liam M. Early" Subject: Re: Developer's Guide on your palmtop! Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - >Hi There! >the 
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HTML command, the editing is not that difficult- >but it takes time when we are now only 4 people that will work on this. >What I need is another 3-4 people that can help us. What you need: >* A hardcopy of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide- so you can check >that the formatting is ok (A CD-ROM version should also be ok). I assume you posted this twice vecause tou didn't get much of a response the first time. I could donate a few hours 3-4 week, unfortunately I do not have a copy of the Developers guide. Best regards......Liam -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:38:04 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dejan Radic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dejan Radic Subject: Re: manage HTML messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1227396184__" --__next_part__1227396184__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I don't think that this is the reason, I'm thinking of reading an EMail with a >URL or another EMail address within it, viewing it in HV, clicking on the URL >or EMail address and doing the appropriate thing. Not ignore HTML standards >to view attached (or what not) HTML code. While I'm reading the messages on the news groups, I often notice that they contains two parts: the first part is a plain text and the second part is in HTML format. Because of frequent repetitions of such messages I assume that there is default settings in some mail and news clients. In principle, it's silly that every message is in both formats, but it's sometimes useful, especially if the message contains link or form. That's why I made a small (3KB) program (HLP_HV.EXE). The program creates HV.TMP, which is, in fact, identical to POST.TMP. Only difference is that it has in the first line. Then deletes POST.TMP and opens HV.TMP with the HV.EXE. After finishing the job in HV.EXE, HLP_HV.EXE deletes HV.TMP and returns in POST.EXE. The file HLP_HV.EXE has to be in the same directory where the file POST.TMP is. In this directory HV.TMP will be created. In my case, the external command looks like this: c:\www\post\hlp_hv.exe c:\www\hv\hv.exe c:\www\post\hv.tmp $. 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HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:08:42 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe Barrera Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Barrera Subject: Rocketbook competitor Ý that might be more 200LX friendly ¨ There's an article in the Oct 8. 1998 New York Times about Librius and their Millenium electronic book reader that reports that Librius texts can also be downloaded to Windows CE and 3Com Palm devices. (No mention of the 200LX... of course... but it sounds like the encryption scheme has to be software (not firmware) based, so perhaps there is some hope for Librius texts the 200LX.) The article reports that most but not all of the 4000 titles currently available are public domain works. - Joe > A New Electronic Paperback To Read on Planes and Trains > By BRUCE HEADLAM > 10/08/98 > The New York Times > > The maker of a new electronic book is hoping it will become the dog-eared > paperback of the digital age. Weighing in at less than a pound and costing > under $200, the grandly named Millenium Reader, scheduled for release this > fall by Librius Inc. of Bellevue, Wash., will be lighter and less > expensive than its current competitors. Users will be able to go to the > Librius storefront on the Internet, browse the virtual shelves and > download encrypted texts to the Reader. The company estimates that each > title will cost about 30 percent less than bound copies of the same text. > The Reader can hold up to 4,000 pages, and other purchases can be stored > by the user on the Librius server. > > Librius texts can also be downloaded to Windows CE and 3Com Palm devices, > but Librius still believes that an argument can be made for the Reader. > ''A Windows CE device can cost over $300,'' said Don Bottoms, president of > Librius . ''The Rocketbook Ýa competing electronic book¨ costs $400. We > think that for electronic books to be accepted, they have to be less > expensive.'' > > There had been published reports that the company was focusing on the > romance novel market to jump-start sales, but Mr. Bottoms said there was > more to Librius than midnight trysts, heaving bosoms and cleft-chinned > heroes named Dag. > > ''Sure we're in serious discussions with romance publishers,'' Mr. Bottoms > said. ''We're in serious discussions with all kinds of publishers.'' > > The Librius database has 4,000 titles, Mr. Bottoms said, most of them > books in the public domain, but there are some serious contemporary works, > like Frank McCourt's ''Angela's Ashes.'' By the launching date, the > company hopes to have increased the databank to 10,000 titles. > > ''When you walk through an airplane, you see that people have their office > reading and their leisure reading, usually a paperback,'' Mr. Bottoms > said. ''That's the market we're after.'' > > BRUCE HEADLAM > > Copyright ) 1998 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. > > THE ABOVE MATERIAL IS COPYRIGHTED AND SHOULD NOT BE REPRODUCED OR > DISTRIBUTED OUTSIDE OF MICROSOFT. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:09:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" Subject: Re: Staying connected - Ýlong¨ Comments: To: "bamcilvaine@PALMTOP.COM" Bonjour (about the limit of my French too...) >1. Can I use a HOTMAIL ... ? I use WWW/LX to check hotmail w/ almost no problems. BUT you'll have to have dial-up access to your ISP Ýdon't know if ATT has a 'French Connection' ¨. Where is your conference? Paris? >What happens if I try to log on while my wife is online >at home? Different ISPs do different things. Some won't let you on as part of a security scheme to help keep ID/Password thieves off-line Ýalso prevents you from opening up an "Internet Cafe" and logging 10 computers on w/ a personal account...¨; some services just charge you more. I used to get a "background session detected" message w/ a choice of disabling such a session or incurring extra charges. As far as "where to go" etc. I honestly recommend hooking up w/ a travel agent Ýhere or there¨ and booking a half-day guided tour or two AND buying something like Fodor's (sp?), a Michelin Guide or, (I think it's called) "Let's Go... Europe". Whatever the last one is called, I think it's the one penned by poor college students, hired with a limited pension that they must stay within (I think they're Harvard students forbidden from using Dad's Gold Cards...). I used one of these in Europe and got GREAT advice on cool eats/drinks/sights, "all on the cheap". The book pointed to the neat, out of the way things, etc. and coverd the "must do" items. I still recommend a paid guide (a person) for a "quick" run through the Louvre and a few local sights. If you're in Paris and can afford a sleepless night, book one of their Vegas-style shows (I think one of the clubs is called the 'Moulon Rouge'). Never been to Vegas, but I'm sure they don't have a live alligator act w/ a tank that comes up out of the stage in Vegas Many of these shows do hold a European attitude toward toplessness; so don't go if that bothers you... I went to Paris for a 4 day, New Year's tour that had us at the Arch of Triumph (I won't try the French spelling again) at midnight. And, it was Fantastic! Since I was stationed in Germany at the time, it was easy to book a cheap tour -- the expensive part is getting there; and you've already got that covered. A guide can get you in and out of places in a heartbeat AND he or she may also be able to help you w/ connecting. They'll know all the local Internet spots etc. Check w/ the list AND a few online companies that deal in international travel, regarding the phone lines/modem standards & regulations for France. You may need special connectors. I went there in my pre-LX days (many moons ago) and didn't try to connect over there. If you want, you can also find an Internet Cafe and log into hotmail. A friend who traveled Europe recently was astounded at the larger number of Internet Cafe's there. We don't have as great a need in the U.S. because most folks here have computers or get online at work .... some Europeans think we've got it made in the commodities/services area and they aren't all as "well gadgeted" as some in the U.S. By the way, I *love* Europe Ýand a few Europeans ;-) ¨; and can't wait to go back, so please don't anyone flame me .... the above paragraph does *not* say, "the great unwashed masses of Europe can't afford computers" ! Let me know what you find out and ENJOY! --tim PS - I'm away from my work machine for 4 days , anyone can contact me at my CompuServe addr. below. CPT Tim Raymond III Corps Public Affairs Chief, Command Information - 254-287-4003 --------------------------------- Truth is the antidote to fear... -- Emerson. email: raymondt@hood-emh3.army.mil 71250.1550@compuserve.com -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:13:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe Barrera Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Barrera Subject: AUGH!!! Ý RE: Rocketbook competitor Ý that might be more 200LX fr iendly ¨ ¨ Sigh. Of course the whole POINT of my spending five minutes to write a summary of the article was that I don't have PERMISSION to forward the whole article... and then I forget to it before I hit send. If you never hear from me again, I'll be rotting in some Federal prison... - Joe (not having a good day) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:16:18 EST Reply-To: tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter W. Borders" Organization: Business Division - TCC VB Subject: Re: Rocketbook competitor Ý that might be more 200LX friend > Date sent: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:08:42 -0700 > Send reply to: HPLX Mailing List , > Joe Barrera > From: Joe Barrera > Subject: Rocketbook competitor Ý that might be more 200LX friendly ¨ > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > There's an article in the Oct 8. 1998 New York Times about Librius and their > Millenium electronic book reader that reports that Librius texts can also be > downloaded to Windows CE and 3Com Palm devices. (No mention of the 200LX... > of course... but it sounds like the encryption scheme has to be software > (not firmware) based, so perhaps there is some hope for Librius texts the > 200LX.) The article reports that most but not all of the 4000 titles > currently available are public domain works. > > - Joe > So they can all be retrieved for free from the internet in plain text format and then read by whatever program on whatever computer. Unless they start having first run books from big name authors I think I will save my money. :-) Pete Peter W. Borders Network Support Technician Tidewater Community College tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:17:36 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brendan Macmillan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brendan Macmillan Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981008123109.19e72fa8@204.49.39.2> from "Steve Novosad" at Oct 8, 98 01:30:30 pm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Just a thought, do you use a Lotus plot to > A B C D > 1 0 10:30 Leave Station 1 Sta1 > 2 1.2 10:43 Arrive Station 2 > 3 1.2 10:53 Leave Station 2 Sta2 > 4 2.5 11:12 Arrive Station 3 > > Hit F10 for a graphic view. I've never used Lotus before .... I just get a beep when I hit F10... any idea what could be wrong? -- Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au Tel: +61 03 9905 5194 Law thesis (pdf, ps) www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:56:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Watson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Watson Subject: Starting Phone Book, etc., with a specific file. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Is it possible to set up icons on the system manager to start up with a specific phone file. I know these applications have an ini file containing the directory of the last opened file, But I'm wondering if you could have ie: multiple phone book icons, each one would open a different phone file just by activating the icon. Thanx in advance, John Watson -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:01:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joe Barrera Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Barrera Subject: a couple more ebook links The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the Video Electronics Standards Association (VESA) are hosting Electronic Book '98. Ý...¨ The goal of this workshop is to illustrate the current and future capabilities of a hand held electronic book (E-Book) and to identify issues relating to standards and interoperability for this emerging technology. Ý...¨ http://www.nist.gov/itl/div895/isis/ebook98.html New file standards for electronic books to be HTML-based A group of technology companies and book publishers will announce today that they will come up with file-format standards for electronic books. Microsoft Corp. will lead the group, according to James Sachs, chief executive at Softbook Press in Menlo Park, a start-up company that sells electronic books. The new file standards will be based on HTML, the formatting language used by World Wide Web browsers to show Web pages. http://www.mercurycenter.com/premium/business/docs/conews08.htm -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:39:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , David Sargeant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Sargeant Subject: Re: AUGH!!! Ý RE: Rocketbook competitor Comments: To: Joe Barrera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Barrera wrote: > > Sigh. Of course the whole POINT of my spending five minutes to write a > summary of the article was that I don't have PERMISSION to forward the whole > article... and then I forget to it before I hit send. > If you never hear from me again, I'll be rotting in some Federal prison... > - Joe (not having a good day) Don't worry, Joe. You're a 200LX owner... if the feds come for you, you can deflect the bullets with your rock-solid palmtop. But odds are, they won't come for you, or even care about one little accidental slip. Unless Jeff Johns decides to turn you in... perhaps you'd better send him a bribe. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:54:47 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rick Kozak Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Kozak Subject: Re: a couple more ebook links MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What I want is something portable with a great screen that I can slip a CD into so I can read Microsoft's technical documentation reclined on my couch instead of upright in my chair facing my CRT. rick >The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) and the Video >Electronics Standards Association (VESA) are hosting Electronic Book '98. >Ý...¨ The goal of this workshop is to illustrate the current and future >capabilities of a hand held electronic book (E-Book) and to identify issues >relating to standards and interoperability for this emerging technology. >Ý...¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:48:25 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: 200LX/320LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all! I've been looking to get a new HP200LX, since mine was recently stolen. I've been trying to find a good deal on one and came across a great deal on a HP320LX. Personally I want another 200LX, but I was wondering if anyone knows of anyone that would like to trade a 200LX for this, or knows of someplace that allows you to "downgrade?" your palmtop. Thanks! Heres what the HP320LX is like... Like New HP 320LX Manuals 14.4 Modem 4MB RAM Backlit Screen Chargers Windows CE Docking Cradle HP CD WinCE CD Ent. Pack for WinCE Brian Sugita =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:58:39 +1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Peter Scarth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Peter Scarth Subject: Re: QFAX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, I find that QFAX works very well, when I call a well set up fax machine. = In Australia, we have a Test-FAX number that you can send a fax to and = it will fax back an assessment of your fax quality, line levels and so = on. My QFAX setup (with an AVTEC 14.4 PCMCIA) gets straight 'excellents' = for everything, but it still fails to connect to some fax machines. Peter Scarth -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------- Department of Geographical Sciences and Planning The University of Queensland, St Lucia 4072. Phone: 61-7-33656838 Web: http://student.uq.edu.au/~s153231/ > I have had the same problem. I don't think it has anything to do with > your particular LX. I think that qfax is simply a quirky program that > likes some modems, doesn't like others; likes some FAX machines, = doesn't > like others. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:00:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Johns Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Johns Subject: Re: AUGH!!! Ý RE: Rocketbook competitor On 10-08 08:39pm, the following was written: > But odds are, they won't come for you, or even care about one little > accidental slip. Unless Jeff Johns decides to turn you in... perhaps you' > better send him a bribe. Hmmm.... I think a new 100 watt 2 meter amp should assure my silence :) 73 Jeff =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org | Reserve Patrol Captain | | Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1) | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept | | HP200LX+BayPac=Portable Packet | QTH Birmingham, AL USA | =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-= Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:42:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alan Peres Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alan Peres Subject: FS Palm III and accessories In-Reply-To: <19981006014355.AOF11540@attcanada.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I flirted with "the dark side" and am now back with my HP100LX. I bought a Palm III and used it for about 2 weeks. I learned it wasn't for me, and now want to sell it. Its a neat machine if you want to keep your phone book, calendar, and not require a lot of data entry. Well, I realized how much data enry I do on my HP. (Well, maybe it wasn't the "dark side" as it wasn't WINCE, MS bloatware, etc.) I have for sale a Palm III (never registered, all original packaging, etc.), an extra HotSunc cable, a serial cable and RightWrites (screen protectors). Asking $350 + S and H. If you know anyone who might be interested, send them my way. Alan Peres -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:30:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , al chin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: al chin Subject: Re: Rocketbook competitor Will that give ya coat hanger more power? Semper Mobilis, yor pal al :) ............. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO Ý654-5866¨ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:39:50 GMT Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Spiers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Spiers Subject: Re: FS zoom 14.4c cellular modems (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have one of these modems I picked up at the Parkway Office Depot a few months ago although it cost me a little more than this guys price. The modem is a pcmcia modem. It works fine with WWW/LX but I have not got it to work with Accis3.1 but have not pursued a solution to the problem. The modem is `cellular ready' which according to the manual means you need an upgrade kit for a specific phone model. An upgrade kit consists of a connection cord and software to permit the modem to interact with the phone. I have not pursued this option (I use a PCS/GSM phone) but the manual gives the following phone number for details of upgrade kits: (800) 877-2624. The modem has the following power specs: Asleep 8 mA @ 5V Awake offline 40 mA @ 5V Awake online 115 mA @ 5V You can set the period of inactivity before the modem goes into sleep mode through a register. I have found that batteries deplete during an online run but recover. I do not have another pcmcia modem to compare the power consumption against. I mostly use my external Zoom pocket modem with the 200LX and keep this card as a backup for when I want to travel very light and not carry the pocket modem. GaryS P.S. If you are interested in some local entertainment I will be replacing my palmtop keyboard this weekend to get rid of a broken spacebar :-) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 02:17:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Dan Ridenhour Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dan Ridenhour Subject: Re: FS Palm III and accessories Comments: To: Alan Peres MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Peres wrote: > > Well, I flirted with "the dark side" and am now back with my HP100LX. > > I bought a Palm III and used it for about 2 weeks. I learned it wasn't for > me, and now want to sell it. Its a neat machine if you want to keep your > phone book, calendar, and not require a lot of data entry. Well, I realized > how much data enry I do on my HP. > > (Well, maybe it wasn't the "dark side" as it wasn't WINCE, MS bloatware, etc.) > > I have for sale a Palm III (never registered, all original packaging, > etc.), an extra HotSunc cable, a serial cable and RightWrites (screen > protectors). Asking $350 + S and H. > > If you know anyone who might be interested, send them my way. Not to be the price police or anything, but you may find it hard to sell a palm III used for $350 when you can purchase them new for $298 from BuyComp, or even for $369 at the local compusa. I too flirt with the dark side having tried just about every handheld out there including M$ bloatware WINCE system, and have also returned to my trusty 100lx. Hell of a machine, dont think anything will really replace it for some time to come. Well maybe a 200lx :) Dan > > Alan Peres > > -------------------------------------------- > ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** > For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : > HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:54:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Brian Sugita Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Brian Sugita Subject: Modem Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all! I have a question about PC Card/PCMCIA modems. I have two 14.4 PCMCIA modems. On is a Megahertz XJ1144, and the other is a Hayes Optima 144+FAX144. I was wondering which would be better for use on a HP200LX. Does anyone know which draws more power? Any other input, such as good/bad experiences with either would be appreciated. Thanks! Brian Sugita =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= kaervek@ix.netcom.com ~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~ -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Mikhail Epelbaum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Actually, only three keys: Both eXternal and More are represented by >the same key- "X". But three _presses_ :) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >To anyone who's registered TT/LX: Do you know whether the advanced mode >auto-stops tasks when starting a new one (so it doesn't double-bill time)? Both modes use Alt-N - Try it. It is also mentioned in the documention. >How many copies of TT/LX has D&A sold, I wonder. Anyone else using it? Our secret :) ... but many! Let you guess what "many" means. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: Peniel Romanelli MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >> .., I'm thinking of reading an EMail with a >> URL or another EMail address within it, viewing it in HV, clicking on >the URL >> or EMail address and doing the appropriate thing... perhaps Post could >do >> that and fire up HV pointing at the URL selected from the text. > >Post/LX already can do this. I use this feature pretty regularly. You >have to set up a line in post.cfg to pass the URL to HV. The only >"gotcha" is that the URL needs to be on a line by itself, not embedded >in the text. (Hint: hit G when reading a message, and move the >highlight with the arrows) Oh, that is what Wally meant! I did not get it in his message. Thanks... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:59:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: at-grey@usa.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I >>begin a new one? > >Now I don't use the program in question, but couldn't you just create a >macro function for starting a new timed task? Create a macro that >automatically stops the last timed task and adds a new one. I use the program (also run the company that developed it and sells it :) ...) and that suggestion wold work fine. Of course it is also easier to just hit F2, select the proper activity type, and client, and add a word or two to the memo, if needed, then go on doing your task. When you need to stop it and start a new one, just press Alt-N. This stops currently running task, and starts a new one - one key strke, well... two Alt and N. :) -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: manage HTML messages Comments: To: wally@pop.uky.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >I don't think that this is the reason, I'm thinking of reading an EMail with a >URL or another EMail address within it, viewing it in HV, clicking on the URL >or EMail address and doing the appropriate thing. Not ignore HTML standards >to view attached (or what not) HTML code. Viewing Email implies you are already offline, so clicking on the URL will not get you anywhere :) If what you click on is an email address HV will try to kick in Post/LX. >Do you see the value in this? My big computers EMail program makes such >things automatic links, perhaps Post could do that and fire up HV pointing at >the URL selected from the text. Yes, the value is clear, IF you are online. Post/LX is an offline email reader. >I think people who don't turn off that *damn* annoying double-post 'feature' >should be banned from the internet. HTML EMail is bad enough, but both in the >same messsage is worse.. :-) >Your lithium prescription run out, Avi? It's okay, Andreas probably won't >have you killed.. Thanks for the concern for my health. I am terribly overworked, and I try really hard to respond (more or less) civilly to all questions. But some of the harping here is just too much and too persistent, and I feel trapped, I don't want to be rude, but I really don't want to repeat myself over and over again when people refuse to accept an answer. I don't take lithium, and I don't need it, except maybe when the list gets it into their combined mind to just hammer the same topic to a finer grist than dust :) ... >Hope you see what I am saying, speaking for myself only of course. Not sure >what the desires of other posters have been, but basically being able to >select URL's for viewing with HV and EMail addresses within text for easy >messaging is what I see as value to this sort of modification, be it in Post >or HV. Yes, I saw what you wrote and appreciate the refreshing newness of it. To select a URL in HV just highlight it and press Enter, just in case you do not know how to do it (I am not sure, but it kinda sounds like it, maybe?...) I also hope you understood what I said about the fine grist... -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:00:06 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... Comments: To: hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Even assuming you use TT/LX (a DOS PAL program) in sysman, there is no way >that I know for the Macro to determine the currently active task. I have >tried, but no luck... Don't use macros, Use Alt-N. I am not sure what exactly the problem is - the button is on the screen when the timer runs. -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:40:15 -1000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Graham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Graham Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but.. Comments: To: "A. Meshar" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Avi - this is the same thing I want out of TT Aloha - bob \ooo_ .......................................................................... Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:03:57 -0700 From: "A. Meshar" Subject: Re: TT/LX is a great concept, but... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >Is there a way to make the current task stop timing automatically when I >begin a new one? And further more, it seems there should be a way to No. But there is a single key to stop current and start another. >define a few tasks that I switch my time between all day, rather than >having to create the same task five different times while juggling between >a set of them. In other words, not only do I want the auto-stopping when >starting a new task, but I want to be able to select already-setup tasks >again and again, as ongoing projects. I want to switch between these tasks >by the push of a button or two at most, and not worry about time being >counted on two concurrently. Not in the product now. Interesting idea. >Maybe in the advanced mode I can do this auto-stopping, auto-creating. Did >I miss something? Worth looking into, no? Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 03:49:12 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jorgen Dybdahl Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Dybdahl Subject: AUGH!!! Ý RE: Rocketbook competitor Ý that might be more 200LX fr Comments: To: joebar@microsoft.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >Sigh. Of course the whole POINT of my spending five minutes to write a >summary of the article was that I don't have PERMISSION to forward the whole >article... and then I forget to it before I hit send. > >If you never hear from me again, I'll be rotting in some Federal prison.= =2E. Don't worry, we will get some batteries for your LX smuggled into prison.= If I send a cake, don't bite too hard. Using a non-CE, non-W98 machine is probably soon a federal offence anyway. Jorgen = -------------------------------------------- ***DO NOT POST BINARY FILES TO THIS LIST*** For Unsubscribe requests, FAQ, & List Archives, see : HTTP://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:04:59 +0100 Reply-To: Mike_Little@geoworks.co.uk Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Little Organization: Geoworks Subject: Re: Developer's Guide on your palmtop! Comments: cc: Jorgen Wallgren In-Reply-To: <199810081600.AAA07311@zinc.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 9 Oct 98, at 0:00, Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > Hi There! > > I am working on a HTML version of The HP 100/200LX Developer's Guide > to be used with HV on the palmtop. The files are already in the HTML > format, but needs editing of the tables- which for the moment doesn't > exist. Since the best way to display a table when using HV is with > the 
...
HTML command, the editing is not that difficult- > but it takes time when we are now only 4 people that will work on this. > Hi Jorgen, You need almost no editing as long as you have access to Netscape 4.x (I'm not sure you personally have, but some of your volunteers may). Load a page into Netscape with a table, then select File/Save As, Select the Save as Type drop down list and select Text. Change the file extension (Netscape doesn't) and save it. Your html will now be formatted as ascii text! Cut out the table, paste it back in between a 
 pair in the original file and you're done.

I use it all the time, and it's really very good, it almost never makes a
mistake.

I would volunteer but I don't have a hard copy of the reference -- only a
PTP CD-ROM does that count? (Is that even the same doc?)

Hope this helps,
Mike

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:27:42 +1300
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> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to set up icons on the system manager to start up
> with a specific phone file. I know these applications have an
> ini file containing the directory of the last opened file,
> But I'm wondering if you could have ie: multiple phone book
> icons, each one would open a different phone file just by
> activating the icon.
>
> Thanx in advance,
> John Watson

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Davis:

To stop one task timing and start another - press ALT-N - it is a pretty large
button on the screen! Stop/New - meaning: Stop current, start new. Try it, you
might like it. I do not recall you menitoning this to me.

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David,

 >Another thing that would benefit me would be the ability to keep track of
 >the various times I work on a particular project-- right now, I can only
 >keep track of the total time.  I actually did suggest this to Andreas a
 >while back, but he felt it would require too much memory to track blocks
 >of time.  Perhaps the advent of 32MB and 64MB palmtops could fix this? :)

I am afraid that is already built in. You need to read the documentation a bit
more. You can keep track of various activities in the same project.

 >Does Andreas monitor this list?  If not, then Avi, will you forward this
 >message to him and see what he says?

He does not monitor any longer because he was bombarded with lots of the fine
grist I complained about earlier, and simply has had enough. I cannot blame
him, and I think it is fine for him to spend time doing what he does best -
programming.

When he stopped monitoring here, I promised to forward to him, or at least
discuss some interesting items. I have done so in a few cases - you personally
know of at least one which has been going on with you and one other person in
the last few days. Several other people have also been in contact.

And no, I do not pass along to him everything, because my priorotiy is to make
sure D&A remains a healthy company, so it can survive. I have no intention to
give him everything, because that will destroy his time, and the technological
advantage we have. I do not intend to destroy D&A.

I have provided him with only minimal TimeTracker/LX input so far. It has been
my opinion that so far, the suggestions have been rather trivial I am sorry to
say. In many cases the suggestions are even on the screen (Stop/Start New)...

I have two serious items on TimeTracker/LX which were provided by people who
AFAIK are not on this list. The great majority of TimeTracker/LX users have
not been on this list. These are the most intense user we have, some of them
utilise the product as a central product in their office and business to
optimise their work and productivity.

I like to hear about TimeTracker/LX from people who have given it a more than
cursory look. IMHO, it is the most subtle and abstract piece of software we
have developed, and it is by no means trivial to use. Some aspects of it, such
as reporting, advanced mode, and categories, are highly abstract and take a
great deal of depth to understand. You can imagine that it is not a Word For
Windows style "slap 'em in as you go" type of a product - having been designed
by Andreas and yours truly, and HEAVILY inspired by Agenda by Lotus. The worst
problem we always had with it is to explain it. This is a similar problem to
the one Lotus had in marketing Agenda way back when. Most people have a
difficult time thinking about this product in an abstract way, while the
simple mode of operation only provides a very good time tracker, but no more.

The questions, and the repetitive nature of them, without a mere glance at
docs, gives me pause. I am not sure this is a good product to sell, and I am
going to think hard about withdrawing it and doing something else with it,
such as provide it to certain companies, to some specific retail channels,
etc. This product has done extremely well so far, and I want to make sure it
continues enjoying a good rap, which it deserves.

The questions here are good, even if a bit premature, but disappointing to me.
I was hoping the particpants would be truly interested, not just casual
lookers. I will make sure that any decisions will be announced here too.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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              "Rich C. Johnson" 
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From:         "Rich C. Johnson" 
Subject:      Re: Flash Card Read Only HELP!!!
Comments: To: BVICKERMAN@chronimed.com

Check to see if there is a small switch on the end of the card. I once had a memory card with just such a switch. The switch was actually used to write-protect the card. I often write-protected the card inadvertantly merely by removing and reinserting it. It drove me nuts before I noticed it!

Rich

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:38:54 -0400
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>Date:    Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:17:36 +1000
>From:    Brendan Macmillan 
>Subject: Re: KISS the Lotus train schedule
>
>>      Just a thought, do you use a Lotus plot to
>
>>      A     B     C                  D
>> 1    0   10:30  Leave Station 1    Sta1
>> 2  1.2   10:43  Arrive Station 2
>> 3  1.2   10:53  Leave Station 2    Sta2
>> 4  2.5   11:12  Arrive Station 3
>>
>> Hit F10 for a graphic view.
>
>I've never used Lotus before .... I just get a beep when I hit F10...
>any idea what could be wrong?
>
Brendan

     Oops, the beep says you don't have a graph defined.
1) Hit the slash key (/) and "G" for graph,
2) "T" for type, "X" for x/y,
3) "X" for x-range, (for the above case) select "b1..b4",
4) "A" for first data range, and select ""a1..a4".

     At this point "V" for view should show the graph, and
if you escape back to the default 1-2-3 prompt, F10 will
show the graph.  If you remain in the graph menu,

5) "O" for options, "D" for data labels, "A" and select "D1..D4"
   will "pretty up" the graph.

HTH
Steve

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:00:54 -0500
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              al chin 
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Subject:      A specific file.

Hi all;
"Grab Moreexm and Pocket Launcher
from the super site
www.palmtop.net/super.html
Together these make the LX Fly!"

Its exacerbating to get instructions
and can't do much about it. Two wit:
What is the name of the file: Pocket
Launcher?     Pls be specific...TIA.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............


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              Ed Padin 
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Subject:      Re: Problem: AC power sizzle noise, battery drain/error,
              on/off d on't work,  (AAARRRGH!!!!!)
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Duh! of course I'm sure (<--playfull sarcasm). I'm using a radio shack
power supply but the polarity is correct. It is possible that the power
supply went bad and over-volted the HP. I've been using this power
supply for almost three years now. I also have a regulation HPF-whatever
power supply that exhibits the same symptoms but the problem started
with the Radio shack unit. I wrote to Mack and he said that he'd take a
look at it. He mentioned replacing the Motorala chip that handles power.
Maybe I'll use this as an excuse to upgrade to the 32MB..... hmmm...
decisions, decisions.

Regardless, thanks for the reply. The RS PS can switch polarity by
changing the plug but that was the first thing I checked.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: no_return@no_junkmail.org Ýmailto:no_return@no_junkmail.org¨
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 9:16 AM
> To: HPLX Mailing List; Ed Padin
> Subject: Re: Problem: AC power sizzle noise, battery
> drain/error, on/off
> don't work, (AAARRRGH!!!!!)
>
>
> On Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:01:22 -0400, you wrote:
>
> What kind of AC to DC power supply do you have?
> Are you SHURE the + Pos  is on the center of the power cord and the
>  - Neg is on the outside shell of that power plug?
> Dean
>
> >Well, I think I either have to send my HP to mack for fixin'
> or I gotta
> >dig my poackets for a new one. Here are the symptoms:
> >
> >- When plugged in to the wall it makes a "sizzling noise"
> >- The batteries get sucked dry in about 1/5 the normal time
> >- When allowed to go sleep/suspend, it will not power back
> >   on until I pull out the PC card. I've tried two different cards.
> >- I keep getting "Battery Error" messages
> >
> >It all started when I left the palmtop charging for about
> two days. I've
> >done this before but...
> >
> >Any ideas/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> >
>

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:58:41 -0500
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Actually, there are two ways of doing this.

One is to use dbv and hdm from SUPER.  It will allow you to
have separate icons for each phone book (or database, for that
matter).

The other is to use filini from SUPER.  Then, from filer, you
highlight the file you want and press alt-F7, and it will
launch the phone book (or database, depending on *.pdb or
*.gdb).

I tend to use the dbv-hdm route for databases, etc., and filini
for zip files, doc or txt files, etc.

Let me know if you have difficulty setting these up, ...


hth,

Claud

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> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to set up icons on the system manager to start up
> with a specific phone file. I know these applications have an
> ini file containing the directory of the last opened file,
> But I'm wondering if you could have ie: multiple phone book
> icons, each one would open a different phone file just by
> activating the icon.
>
> Thanx in advance,
> John Watson
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Call Marcan (see the SUPER site).  Last I heard, they still
have them.  Also, some of the newsgroups have members that
still occasionally advertise them.  In fact, that's how I got
this one.

Keep looking - you won't be sorry!


hth,

Claud

On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:48:25 -0700, Brian Sugita  =
wrote:

> Hi all!  I've been looking to get a new HP200LX, since mine was recently
> stolen.
> I've been trying to find a good deal on one and came across a great =
deal on a
> HP320LX.  Personally I want another 200LX, but I was wondering if =
anyone knows
> of anyone that would like to trade a 200LX for this, or knows of =
someplace
> that
> allows you to "downgrade?" your palmtop.  Thanks!
>
> Heres what the HP320LX is like...
>
> Like New HP 320LX
> Manuals
> 14.4 Modem
> 4MB RAM
> Backlit Screen
> Chargers
> Windows CE
> Docking Cradle
> HP CD
> WinCE CD
> Ent. Pack for WinCE
>
> Brian Sugita
> =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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All this discussion about TT got me thinking about it. I don't have the
program, but would try it, if it can run in the background. Can it?
Most of my day I alternate between dBase and Sys manager. So if TT
requires to be a primary application, it's not for me. But I would like
an easy way to measure time spent on different tasks - while I am
actully doing them.

Mikhail

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Avi,

You're right about the Alt-n, I overlooked that it stops and starts the
next one.  I guess what I was looking fer is the ability to be sure that
there won't be lots of tasks running up a bill.  It would be nice to have
them stop everytime I start the next one, but well, it works for the most
part.  Don't get upset or anything, I was just making a suggestion.  I
think TT/LX could be a very big app in the palmtop world.  You really ought
to expand into the CE/Palm/EPOC32 markets. (yeah, the thought of doing
pilot or ce is horrible, but you could make a good chunk of change.)

Anyway, be cool.

Anyone want to sell a used copy of TT/LX? 
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<>

You might consider us, Thaddeus Computing.  On our new site (not done
but operable) at www.PalmtopPaper.com there are a number of used 200LX
options, from 1 meg to 64 Meg. Warranty is 90 days, but can be extended
to 1 year ($25), or 2 years ($75).

Unfortunately, I don't think you will get anyone to trade for your HP320
as that is Windows CE 1.0 and not very useful.

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Al,
Are you familiar with LXREF? It gives the in depth file structure layout for the LX native database files (pdb, gdb, and adb) as well as a ton of other LX unique technical info.

You can get it at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/.
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There are two types of flash card, one that requires
a device driver (eg, TrueFFS) on the LX and the
newer ATA cards that emulate the AT  interface
(ie, IDE drive) common on desktops.
I have a Maxtor flash card of the first type that I could read
without a driver, but couldn't write to until I inatalled TrueFFS.
I also use the card in my Compaq Aero where a couple device
drivers are needed. First comes a socket services driver and
then a card services driver that depends on what you are putting
in the PCMCIA slot. Compaq's windows on-line help discussed
what you needed to do.


>I have an PCMCIA Intel Flash Series 2+ card that
>I wanted to use with my HP 100LX. M-systems TrueFFS
>software fixed me up. I got trueffs.zip from:
>   http://www.ziplink.net/~maxm/omnigo/programs.html
>The most recent files are from July 1996 and it includes
>software for using the flash cards with the Omnigo.



Bill Vickerman wrote:

> I have a Smart Modular Technologies 4MB Fast Flash Card.  The model
> number is sm9fa2043ip280.
> The Problem I am finding is that my 200lx shows it as not ready.  When I
> take to my Note book the card shows empty.  When I attempt to format it
> I get a read only on the card.  This card came from a Cisco router I
> believe.  Has anyone been able to turn off the write protect to be able
> to use this card.
> Thanks for any and all suggestions or help.
>
> BV

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Please tell me why we couldn't have an HPLX machine that could have a color screen (liked the dreded CE 2.0 machines or better).
Is it just power consumption, or is it comething else?

Chuck Sutherland



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> From: al chin 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: A specific file.
> Date: Saturday, 10 October 1998 02:00
>
> Hi all;
> "Grab Moreexm and Pocket Launcher
> from the super site
> www.palmtop.net/super.html
> Together these make the LX Fly!"
>
> Its exacerbating to get instructions
> and can't do much about it. Two wit:
> What is the name of the file: Pocket
> Launcher?     Pls be specific...TIA.
>
> Semper Mobilis,
> yor pal al :) .............

Most humble apologies, my dear friends,
I had taken for granted that those interested
in making their LX's fly would check out the
files and the attached readme's to see
what I had recommended.

Here is an excerpt:

MoreEXM Version 1.60
TSR program to expand the number of EXM for loading

Copyright (C) 1995,96 Hiroyuki Sekiya


Ý1¨ Introduction

Maximum number of EXM programs on AppManager is 9 (100LX) or 8
(200LX).  You can seemingly add an application beyond that
number, but you cannot start it and only receive a warning of
"Cannot find application".  In such case, press ÝF8¨(List) from
AppManager to switch to List screen.  If the "Status" column
shows "*" sign, the application in this line is not added, as
it exceeds the maximum number.

Various macros were created to overcome this barrier.  However
these macros had following drawbacks:
 - starting an application takes some time
 - you cannot define Hot Key to start the app

This TSR program, MoreEXM, is developed to overcome these
difficulties by loading an EXM application to AppManager on
the fly and automatically starting it, all initiated by
predefined keystrokes.

What can be done by MoreEXM:

- Unlimited number of EXM applications can be registered.
- Unique Hot Key can be assigned to each application
- Plural EXM application can be started simultaneously
  from MoreEXM (depending on the setting on AppManager).
- Application screen can be overlapped. (Clear-Screen
  suppression)

And Pocket Launcher:

Pocket Launcher ver.1.02
List type launcher for HP100/200LX
TONTATA 


ÝIntroduction¨
Pocket Launcher is an EXM program to launch an application,
execute a DOS command, or repeat the predefined keystrokes,
by selection from a menu list.

There are other launcher programs, but they lack a function I
need:  to open a file with internal PIM application.  Thus I
made this program.

More exm and Pocket launcher together allow you to have one hot key that
works
in all your sysmanager screens; phone, database, appointments, 123, etc...

When pressed, up on top of the screen pops a list of your selected apps,
dos
progs, databases with specific files, notetakers with specific files,
phonebooks
with specified files, macros, et al.

The neat thing is instead of opening memo, opening a file box and searching
for
the autoexec.bat file & selecting it and then *eventually* opening it for
editing,
you do this once with launcher config, and then it is "Hot key, First
letter" and
you have the file! It takes all the drugery out of repetitive file &
directory
management with all the apps.

Launcher also has some neat extras, close all and terminate all -> dos.
These
both work faster than a speeding bullet!

I cannot recommend them highly enough and give all thanks to the two
wonderfull programmers!

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> Hi all;
>
> > "Grab Moreexm and Pocket Launcher
> > from the super site
> > www.palmtop.net/super.html
> > Together these make the LX Fly!"
>
> Its exacerbating to get instructions
> and can't do much about it. Two wit:
> What is the name of the file: Pocket
> Launcher?     Pls be specific...TIA.

Al,

1. Visit the URL mentioned above, using your browser of choice.
2. Search for the string "Pocket Launcher". (I guess this is where you got
stuck, eh?)
3. You will find:

Pocket Launcher
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lnch102.zip?dbname=lnch102.zip
&URL=ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/lnch102.zip

(18 K) added 11/11/96
Version 1.02 by TONTATA mailto:NCA02217@niftyserve.or.jp
Screen Capture http://www.palmtop.net/scaps/launcher.gif

Pocket Launcher is an EXM program to launch an application, execute a DOS
command or repeat predefined keystrokes from a configurable menu.
Copyrighted freware.

Cheers,

- Joe

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I'm looking for a reasonably-priced digital camera that interfaces with the
LX.  I know Mr. Kind got one a few weeks ago, but those are sold out.
Anyone have any recommendations?


tia,

Claud

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I use the Kodak DC20 with the LX.  Yea, it's got no frills, so-so
resolution, no zoom, no flash, and no LCD... but it's small!!!

It's still available from Kodak's factory outlet for $99.

See www.kodak.com.

Bill


On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I'm looking for a reasonably-priced digital camera that interfaces with the
> LX.  I know Mr. Kind got one a few weeks ago, but those are sold out.
> Anyone have any recommendations?
>
>
> tia,
>
> Claud
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I have a HP200LX AND (!) a HP320LX - after one whole year I am still
working on the HP200LX (double speed 32 Mb meanwhile - done AFTER the
buy !). The HP320LX is no more than an sophisticated agenda for the
office exchange mail system.......

I was even thinking about buying another 200LX for you never now.....
Even the Psion 5 is in the picture.

Harry Wellner
Gouda, Netherlands

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>From:  Brian SugitaÝSMTP:kaervek@IX.NETCOM.COM¨
>Sent:  09 October 1998 03:48
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>Subject:       200LX/320LX
>
>Hi all!  I've been looking to get a new HP200LX, since mine was recently
>stolen.
>I've been trying to find a good deal on one and came across a great deal on a
>HP320LX.  Personally I want another 200LX, but I was wondering if anyone
>knows
>of anyone that would like to trade a 200LX for this, or knows of someplace
>that
>allows you to "downgrade?" your palmtop.  Thanks!
>
>Heres what the HP320LX is like...
>
>Like New HP 320LX
>Manuals
>14.4 Modem
>4MB RAM
>Backlit Screen
>Chargers
>Windows CE
>Docking Cradle
>HP CD
>WinCE CD
>Ent. Pack for WinCE
>
>Brian Sugita
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
>~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~
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Subject:      Batt 3V lithium

Hi List and batt gurus;
TGIF
Talking about batteries recently, usually the
main AAs.        What about the 3V coin cell?
It a lithium, does it charge while the unit is
plugged into the adapter?  If so it should
go on indefinately, why change once a year?

We wanna know...............

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Subject:      A specific file.

Hi Dav and Joey;
Din't mean at all to knock you at all,
I just made a general comment as two often
guys make references and ya don't kon't know
where ta go to get what.  Specially a few good
newbies.  But thanks for der reply.

BTW: Back to the point that got me started,
the file name of Pocket Launcher?
Nobody nose..........

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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              Joe Barrera 
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Comments: To: al chin 

> BTW: Back to the point that got me started,
> the file name of Pocket Launcher?
> Nobody nose..........

lnch102.zip

as in

ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/lnch102.zip

as in

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lnch102.zip?dbname=lnch102.zip
&URL=ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/lnch102.zip

as in (from my previous message to you)

> Al,
>
> 1. Visit the URL mentioned above, using your browser of choice.
> 2. Search for the string "Pocket Launcher". (I guess this is where you got
> stuck, eh?)
> 3. You will find:
>
> Pocket Launcher
>
http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl/lnch102.zip?dbname=lnch102.zip
&URL=ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/hamm/lnch102.zip

And if you download and unzip lnch102.zip, you will get

Archive:  LNCH102.ZIP
  inflating: README.TXT
  inflating: LAUNCHER.DOC
  inflating: LAUNCHER.EXM
  inflating: LAUNCHER.CFG
  inflating: SOURCE.ZIP

Still confused?

- Joe

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On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

>
> Please tell me why we couldn't have an HPLX machine that could have a color screen (liked the dreded CE 2.0 machines or better).
> Is it just power consumption, or is it comething else?

There's nothing stopping us from having a colour version of the LX, except
HP :-)

It would probably have higher power consumption, but I cannot see why it
isn't possible. Of course, colour CGA isn't much fun so it ought to be at
least EGA (640x350x16). Backlight would be nice too...


Cheers,

Laust

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I have to say, Avi, that I was a little offended at the tone of your
message, because I've read the documentation for TT/LX several times, and
have been using it in advanced mode for months and months now-- I'm not an
idiot or a newbie with the product. On the other hand, the sudden swamping
of messages about TT/LX is probably frustrating-- I can certainly
understand that.  Especially knowing how busy you are.  So, I'm not
offended anymore, and I hope you're not upset with me.  Friends?  :)

Now, as to your message...

On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> I am afraid that is already built in. You need to read the
> documentation a bit more. You can keep track of various activities in
> the same project.

That's true.  What I'm talking about is restarting a stopped activity and
adding its time into the previous one.  However, as you point out, you can
accomplish much the same result by setting up more than one of the same
general "activity" within a project, to keep track of the total time for
that activity.  For example, if I am fixing "computer 7" (the activity) as
part of the "Maintenance" project, and then I break for lunch and stop
that activity, and I want to continue the same activity after lunch, you
can just set up a new activity, same type ("computer 7") and continue.
What I was speaking of was restarting the stopped activity and having it
either track a new block of time, or start a new activity (with the same
specs) but on the new time.  Same result, different way of getting there.

> He does not monitor any longer because he was bombarded with lots of
> the fine grist I complained about earlier, and simply has had enough.
> I cannot blame him, and I think it is fine for him to spend time doing
> what he does best - programming.

I agree.  He better uses his time on the train to write great apps than
answering e-mail. :)

> When he stopped monitoring here, I promised to forward to him, or at
> least discuss some interesting items. I have done so in a few cases -

That makes sense to me.

> And no, I do not pass along to him everything, because my priorotiy is
> to make sure D&A remains a healthy company, so it can survive. I have
> no intention to give him everything, because that will destroy his
> time, and the technological advantage we have. I do not intend to
> destroy D&A.

Well, I didn't mean do you pass him everything-- I was just asking if you
could pass onto him my specific message.  But I guess I didn't phrase the
message right.

I agree it would not be a good idea to send every question or complaint to
Andreas.  He would probably come over here and slap you around.  :)

> I have provided him with only minimal TimeTracker/LX input so far. It
> has been my opinion that so far, the suggestions have been rather
> trivial I am sorry to say. In many cases the suggestions are even on
> the screen (Stop/Start New)...

That's fair.  But I think you missed the point of that one, which was (I
think) that there ought to be a mode that, when starting a new activity,
would stop the timing of the other activities.  Not a permanent change,
because obviously there is great advantage in tracking multiple activities
at once.  But for those of us who sometimes forget, it would be nice to
have a checkbox or a mode where pressing + or F2 (to start a new activity)
would stop the timing of the others.  In fact, it could even go one step
beyond that, and only stop timing of any other activities using the same
"client" or "project" as it.

I know we could do the same thing by going back and stopping them by hand,
or by going into the last one and doing Stop/New, but when I start a task
it's usually an urgent thing and the less time it takes me to start a new
one, the better.  Shaving off even those few seconds that it would take to
look through the list of records, press enter, and then Alt-N... would be
very handy.

This is my interpretation, for my personal use of TT/LX (as a system
administrator).  If I have misinterpreted anybody's comments, I hope they
will not hesitate to let me (and Avi) know.

> I have two serious items on TimeTracker/LX which were provided by
> people who AFAIK are not on this list. The great majority of
> TimeTracker/LX users have not been on this list. These are the most
> intense user we have, some of them utilise the product as a central
> product in their office and business to optimise their work and
> productivity.

I assume that these people must use palmtops?  Would you mind giving us
out their names?  Any company that uses TT/LX and a 200LX as a central
product deserves more of our business!  :)

> I like to hear about TimeTracker/LX from people who have given it a
> more than cursory look. IMHO, it is the most subtle and abstract piece
> of software we have developed, and it is by no means trivial to use.
> Some aspects of it, such as reporting, advanced mode, and categories,
> are highly abstract and take a great deal of depth to understand. You
> can imagine that it is not a Word For Windows style "slap 'em in as
> you go" type of a product - having been designed by Andreas and yours
> truly, and HEAVILY inspired by Agenda by Lotus. The worst problem we
> always had with it is to explain it. This is a similar problem to the
> one Lotus had in marketing Agenda way back when. Most people have a
> difficult time thinking about this product in an abstract way, while
> the simple mode of operation only provides a very good time tracker,
> but no more.

I understand what you are saying.  And the documentation does a pretty
good job of explaining it.  But you're right-- it's a very abstract piece
of software, one that you can't catch the features of all at once, but
that you must discover and tailor to fit your individual needs.  I can see
how basic questions must irritate you, especially if people haven't read
the documentation.

> The questions, and the repetitive nature of them, without a mere
> glance at docs, gives me pause. I am not sure this is a good product
> to sell, and I am going to think hard about withdrawing it and doing
> something else with it, such as provide it to certain companies, to
> some specific retail channels, etc. This product has done extremely
> well so far, and I want to make sure it continues enjoying a good rap,
> which it deserves.

Actually, Avi, I have read the docs through several times, and re-read
them today.  I agree, TT/LX has an incredible amount of features--
probably more, and more variety, than I've seen on any other palmtop app.
The powerful reports, the flexible configurations, the unique concepts it
embodies... all are very unique to me, even revolutionary.  (Perhaps, as
you say, they were in Agenda, but I've never used it so I can't say.) I'm
not attacking the product, by any stretch.  All I am saying is, there are
a few features that could be added that would make it even more powerful
for some of us.  Of course, if you are considering pulling the product
from the market, then perhaps you aren't seeking to market to those
people.  I think that would be a shame, and a blow to the palmtop market,
but of course it is up to you.

But I think that everybody who has tried TT/LX agrees that it is one of
the most unique and useful little applications to become available for our
platform in a long time.

> The questions here are good, even if a bit premature, but
> disappointing to me. I was hoping the particpants would be truly
> interested, not just casual lookers. I will make sure that any
> decisions will be announced here too.

Well, come on, Avi.  Give people a chance to get used to it and to explore
the various ways of doing things.  Perhaps those who are using it right
now and asking questions are just trying the demo version-- naturally
they'll have questions.  Don't feel obligated to answer every question
that a new user asks; that's what this mailing list is for, community
support.  In return, perhaps the new users of TT/LX will make sure they
READ THE DOCUMENTATION THOROUGHLY before they post a question, and thus
save all of us (especially Avi, the support person) the trouble of
answering a question that could have been looked up.

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Bob,

 >Avi - this is the same thing I want out of TT

I give up! Did you look at the screen? Does your version have a button
STOP/NEW? AFAIK, there is only one version out there, and I also use it.

Since this is happening over and over again, I assume y'all are not seeing
what I am seeing, or ??? So I'll just stop replying to this, until the message
percolates down. Please do let me know if the screen you have has that button.
Thanks...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:46:29 -0500
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              al chin 
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From:         al chin 
Subject:      Re: 200LX/320LX

Harry;
How much do they cost new/used in your part
of the world?  Here in Chicagi we can get them
cheeper used and they seem OK. After a while,
those that don't use them seriously will sell them
and you can really get them cheep.  Where do
you get the upgrade? Can you now get 64MBs?
What do they cost?
How far is Gouda from AMS?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Subject:      Re: Batt 3V lithium
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Lithium batteries cannot be charged. This is a throw-away cell. It has a
long shelf life though. As long as you primary batteries are in good shape,
I think the button cell should last for many years.




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Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 5:38 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Batt 3V lithium


Hi List and batt gurus;
TGIF
Talking about batteries recently, usually the
main AAs.        What about the 3V coin cell?
It a lithium, does it charge while the unit is
plugged into the adapter?  If so it should
go on indefinately, why change once a year?

We wanna know...............

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Charles,

I think the problem is that HP has been duped by the Intel/Microsoft
mentality and therefor believes that DOS is "dead", which us real people
know is not the case at all.

I wouldn't look for an updated 2xxLX anytime soon.




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Please tell me why we couldn't have an HPLX machine that could have a color
screen (liked the dreded CE 2.0 machines or better).
Is it just power consumption, or is it comething else?

Chuck Sutherland




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Subject:      Re: 200LX/320LX
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I have two 200LX machines - one is an original 2mb and the other is a
Thadeus 32mb 2X. I am keeping the orig as a backup device.

I also have a 620LX wich gets almost no use. So much for Win CE.




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-----Original Message-----
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Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Wellner, Harry
SIOP-OGBH/7
Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 10:46 AM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject: Re: 200LX/320LX


I have a HP200LX AND (!) a HP320LX - after one whole year I am still
working on the HP200LX (double speed 32 Mb meanwhile - done AFTER the
buy !). The HP320LX is no more than an sophisticated agenda for the
office exchange mail system.......

.................

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 20:09:32 -0400
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Systems Consulting wrote:
>
> I have two 200LX machines - one is an original 2mb and the other is a
> Thadeus 32mb 2X. I am keeping the orig as a backup device.
>
> I also have a 620LX wich gets almost no use. So much for Win CE.
>

Just out of stupid curiosity, what if the Thaddeus guys could offer an
upgrade to the 620LX. Do a (pardon the pun) logo-ectomey, (I couldn't
resist it....) and excise CE, replace it with DOS. Are the CPU's built
specifically for CE or can the rom be replaced with somethng else.

WHat a hack that would be...

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Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:15:25 -0700
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> Just out of stupid curiosity, what if the Thaddeus guys could offer an
> upgrade to the 620LX. Do a (pardon the pun) logo-ectomey, (I couldn't
> resist it....) and excise CE, replace it with DOS. Are the CPU's built
> specifically for CE or can the rom be replaced with somethng else.

It sure would help if we would start seeing some CE handhelds based on the
x86. I'm surprised there aren't any already. I've got to think that Cryix or
AMD or one of the other x86 cloners would be more than pleased to sell their
chips in the expanding WinCE market...

- Joe

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It is no different from NON-rechargeable Lithium AA batteries.  It
eventually wears out - about a year.

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Well, my SECOND 200lx has developed a hinge crack, and the crazy glue
solution isn't holding up, and I've been thinking

Thadeus is offering 2MB double speed  used 100lx(s) at about
$250,and i'm using a 1mb 200lx,  and I don't recall any hinge crack
problems with my 100lx before I lost it.

But I really like the data card view in the phone book, and the notes,
and the other database apps on the 200lx ,and I got to thinking . .
.  . . .
Would the extra 1mb be enough extra ram for me to load the apps off
of the 200lx onto the 100lx? What files off of the 200lx's mysterious
"D" drive of the would I have to move to the "c" drive of the 100lx?

could I re-program the blue keys on the 100lx to call the  "exe"
files transferred from the 200lx  instead of the 100lx's built in
apps?

thanks for taking the time
Regards
Tony

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>
> Hmmm.... I think a new 100 watt 2 meter amp should assure my silence :)
>
> 73 Jeff
>
Two questions: is 100 watts at 2 meters considered dangerous? Also, what =
is
the freq for MIR? Thanks.

Darren.

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> To anyone who's registered TT/LX: Do you know whether the advanced mode
> auto-stops tasks when starting a new one (so it doesn't double-bill =
time)?
>
> How many copies of TT/LX has D&A sold, I wonder.  Anyone else using it?
> ----

I won a copy in the latest Dave Sargeant contest, and thinks it's pretty
cool. My lifestyle right now doesn't Require I use it, but I'll bet there
are people who can't live without it.

Darren.

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On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:55:32 -0400, Longden Loo  wrote:

   >>> ÝNettamer's¨ free, and it handles e-mail and newsgroups
   >fine and fast. I agree it's kinda kooky though.<<

   >And that's why I continued to use it for a long time.
   >Especially the kooky part (g). These days I don't have time
   >for the kook, so it's www/lx for me.

>>I thought that's what the WinCE crowd and we say about
each other. It's not kooky if you know how to use it, and
that being the case, I'm still waiting for a Post/LX (or GP
or ??) user to give me a compelling reason to switch. <<

I guess I have a different perspective about what's "kooky."
And I don't know what the original poster meant by the word.
It just sounded like it might fit given my perceived
differences between Nettamer and other email clients I've
used. And yes, I registered my copy.

I happen to be both a Windows CE and a 200lx user, and while
I may be kooky, my kookiness has nothing to do with Windows
CE. (g)

My compelling reason to try something else was because my
eyes find the Zoom-able text much more pleasing in less than
ideal light, or when I don't have my reading glasses.

I'm reading and replying via Post/LX. Nettamer sits on my
backup 100lx ready for action. And it certainly is not the
worst piece of software I've ever seen.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox   cdcox@ccnet.com

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> All this discussion about TT got me thinking about it. I don't have the
> program, but would try it, if it can run in the background. Can it?
> Most of my day I alternate between dBase and Sys manager. So if TT
> requires to be a primary application, it's not for me. But I would like
> an easy way to measure time spent on different tasks - while I am
> actully doing them.
>
> Mikhail
>
The programme itsself doesn't run in the background, as no apps on the lx
do, but the clock in the lx is running, so yes, if you exit TT/lx and do
some other stuff then open TT/lx, you can continue along just fine.

Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1998 23:39:12 -0700
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For sale:

HP200LX 6meg SG6... model
Like new.  Seldom used.
$400 firm. sales in So. CA in person only.  No mailing.
Manual included.

Other accessories for sale are extras:
32 meg pcmcia flash $150.
Leather cases $15-100.
AC adaptors $30.
Cables $30.

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Subject:      SKeptic.com

Hi all;
A great place for profound ideas and write ups
on the sacred and the profane. From the peops
that put out the great pub SKEPTIC.

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Avi wrote:

 > I give up! Did you look at the screen? Does your version have a button
 > STOP/NEW? AFAIK, there is only one version out there, and I also use it.

You won't win customers by berating them or their suggestions/questions.

> Since this is happening over and over again, I assume y'all are not seeing
> what I am seeing, or ???

We all have that Alt-n button.  Most of us see it.  It's just that we all
would like something a bit simpler.  Please listen carefully.  What we
want:  When we are juggling tasks (one at a time) we don't often have time
to scan the task list for the current/active one, highlight it, hit enter,
then ALT-N and F10 (a minimum of four key strokes if you don't have to
arrow to the active one).  More than likely, I just hit F@ to add and
forget the previous task.  A single option to auto-stop the current task
when ADDing (F2) would cut the keystrokes by at least half, and usually
more because we wouldn't have to search to find the current one.

That's the suggestion we are ALL making.  The alt-n stroke is handy, but it
could be better, is all we're saying.  (also, the suggestions about letting
it go past midnight is a great one, too.)

Calm down and listen to the customers.  We really want to help this along.
My feeling is that you truly love TT/LX as is and hate to hear complaints
about it.  But one size does not fit all.  It's a tremendously complicated
program.  Ninety-percent of us need it more simplified.

 >So I'll just stop replying to this, until the message
 > percolates down. Please do let me know if the screen you have has that
button.
 > Thanks...

No.  Thank you, D&A.
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Chuck:

 >Please tell me why we couldn't have an HPLX machine that could have a color screen (liked the dreded CE 2.0 machines or better).
 >Is it just power consumption, or is it comething else?

the cost of batteries :), and the cost of the screen. Besides, to drive the
screen you need a more capable cpu. So that again hurts you in the batteries,
and the cost... It just doesn't end, does it? :)

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 >All this discussion about TT got me thinking about it. I don't have the
 >program, but would try it, if it can run in the background. Can it?
 >Most of my day I alternate between dBase and Sys manager. So if TT
 >requires to be a primary application, it's not for me. But I would like
 >an easy way to measure time spent on different tasks - while I am
 >actully doing them.

It will run as the DOS appl under System Manager. I use it in SC in one
dedicated Workarea.

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 >You're right about the Alt-n, I overlooked that it stops and starts the
 >next one.  I guess what I was looking fer is the ability to be sure that

Glad for you.

 >there won't be lots of tasks running up a bill.  It would be nice to have
 >them stop everytime I start the next one, but well, it works for the most
 >part.  Don't get upset or anything, I was just making a suggestion.  I

Yes, that was a bif discussion during development.

I only got upset because the same harping kept coming over and over again, and
it seemed like no one was looking at the screen! It was wasting lots of time
which I do not have.

 >think TT/LX could be a very big app in the palmtop world.  You really ought
 >to expand into the CE/Palm/EPOC32 markets. (yeah, the thought of doing
 >pilot or ce is horrible, but you could make a good chunk of change.)

I seriously doubt TT/LX will be big, but it is doing well on palmtops.

I have posted many times before on branching into WinCE. I'd consider Psion,
and Palmpilot, maybe.

The chunk of change only seems that way. Sales figures are high, but so are
expense figures, and in some cases they are higher than sales figures - and
that isn't such a good business.

 >Anyone want to sell a used copy of TT/LX? 

You already have one, no? :)

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Yes, the sad thing is that CE 2.0 directly supports 486 chips, of which
there are a variety of low-power options.  And if someone (HP?) built a 486
WinCE machine, maybe they'd make it so it could also run DOS ... and 200lx
apps ...
But I'm afraid that CE is such a processor pig (upholding the Windows
tradition) that you need these 100mhz+ clock speed risc cpu's to keep up ...
and AFAIK, even the leanest 486s suck a lot of power at 100 mhz ...
My HP 320LX (40 mhz SH3) is PAINFULLY slow - and a 75mhz 620LX I tried was
not much better ...

Kurt
*********************************************************************
>It sure would help if we would start seeing some CE handhelds based on the
>x86. I'm surprised there aren't any already. I've got to think that Cryix
or
>AMD or one of the other x86 cloners would be more than pleased to sell
their
>chips in the expanding WinCE market...
>
>- Joe
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>From:    "Claud G. Cameron" 
>I'm looking for a reasonably-priced digital camera that interfaces wit=
h the
>LX.  I know Mr. Kind got one a few weeks ago, but those are sold out.
>Anyone have any recommendations?

I bought a 1 year old, used, Olympus D-300L from a friend for $300.
I can download its pictures via serial cable to my 200LX (although
I usually use my desktop).

I'm not much of a photographer, I got this mainly as another toy.

Russ Brooks  8-276-0158
SVM Support  (RLB at STLVM5)
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:14:16 -0400
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I wanted to post this here first, perhaps another fellow on the list needs a
low power modem for his (or her :) palmtop.

It's a Megahertz CC4144 modem, same specs as the 1144 except that it's
cellular ready.  But ignore the cellular bit, they don't make the cables for
it anymore.

Modem and cable are in perfect condition, used it off and on for six or so
months, works well on my 200LX.  Has a 6 foot cable that plugs into it with
an RJ11 plug on the other end.

Purchased an EXP 288C modem which *can* be hooked up to my cellphone (yeah!)
and have no need for this one any longer.

$15 + ground shipping in continental US.

Feel free to make other (reasonable) offers..  :)  Figure that shipping is
around $5 from KY to CA, so I'll limit the price to $20 total.

--
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>It sure would help if we would start seeing some CE handhelds based on the
>x86. I'm surprised there aren't any already. I've got to think that Cryix or
>AMD or one of the other x86 cloners would be more than pleased to sell their
>chips in the expanding WinCE market...

Can't be done. WinCE was designed based on some assumptions about
the underlying hardware (i.e. virtual memory management, registers,
RISC instructions set, etc.) that the x86 architecture just doesn't
support. You could possibly develop a Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL)
for WinCE to run on the x86, but it would be a major expense and
would probably run like crap.

John

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> Can't be done. WinCE was designed based on some assumptions about
> the underlying hardware (i.e. virtual memory management, registers,
> RISC instructions set, etc.) that the x86 architecture just doesn't
> support. You could possibly develop a Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL)

Actually, that turns out not to be the case. I should thank you for your
note; it finally gave me the motivation to find confirmation of x86 WinCE on
Microsoft's public web. See

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsce/basics/overview/default3.asp and

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsce/embedded/refplat/processors.asp . The
first page begins:

Windows CE 2.0-based Hardware Requirements:

At a minimum, a Windows CE-based device must have a supported processor,
memory, and an internal timer for scheduling. No other hardware is
technically required by the operating system, but most devices will have a
number of peripherals. Windows CE 2.0 supports the NEC, Philips, and Toshiba
MIPS 39xx and 4xxx; Motorola PowerPC; Hitachi SH3; and AMD and Intel x86
(486 and up) processors.

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The suggestion to use Netscape reminds me that MS Word
(v6, 95, & 97) can quickly convert text to HTML. For v6,
look on the MS website to get the Internet Assistant if you
don't have it.

File Open, Save As ... File Type HTML

If you need to stick in 
 ... 
, select the text,
choose preformatted from the drop-down style box.

If you're not getting too fancy, Word can do a decent job
of HTML authoring.  And based on my experience it's much
more responsive than Netscape Composer.

As much as I hate to recommend a MS product over Netscape,
I have to give my honest opinion.

Jim

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You can. Buy a HP 620LX CE color and get XTCE, a DOS emulator.
Cost less than $1000, weight twice as much, and the batteries will last
a few hours. And you lose the HP built in apps.

As I recall, PCMag had a market share (handhelds) chart in the spring.
Pilot had 60%, HP 33%, and 7% others. It wouldn't suprise me
to hear that the 200LX outsells most of the WinCE machines.

I wonder if HP could update the 200LX without getting a new DOS
license from Bill G.? - fat chance!  and 123 from Lotus?

Charles E. Sutherland wrote:

> Please tell me why we couldn't have an HPLX machine that could have a color screen (liked the dreded CE 2.0 machines or better).
> Is it just power consumption, or is it comething else?
>
> Chuck Sutherland
>
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Stan Peters wrote:

>
> I wonder if HP could update the 200LX without getting a new DOS
> license from Bill G.? - fat chance!  and 123 from Lotus?

HP wouldn't have to use MS-DOS, Caldera's DR-DOS (or OpenDOS or whatever
it is called this week) would work just as well (probably better :-). I
don't know about Lotus, though.

Regards,

Laust

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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Darren Frick wrote:

> Two questions: is 100 watts at 2 meters considered dangerous? Also, what is
> the freq for MIR? Thanks.

Yes 100 watts could be considered dangerous as the human body is most
resonant in the VHF bands, but when used properly and with the recommened
FCC guidelines there is absolutely no need for it to be dangerous. To
cantatc Mir you don't need 100 watts I do it daily with 5 watts. The
packet frequency is 145.985 simplex and there is also a 70cm FM repeater
but it doesn't seem to be active at this time. Just download STS Orbit
from S.U.P.E.R. onto your LX and grab a set of current Keps of the net
then you can listen to Mir station packet signals when it comes overhead
with a scanner, the standard 'rubber duck' antenna will sufice if you are
outside. Better yet, even if you aren't a ham, you can still get a BayPac
or similar modem and copy the packet messages on you LX by using BayCom
software, which is also available on S.U.P.E.R.. Of course, it's much
more fun when you are a ham, because then you can use Mir (R0MIR) as a
digipeater. By the way, I finally received my Mir QSL card yesterday,
I'll try to get it scanned sometime next week and post it on my website,
as my law enforcement duties at the Talladega NASCAR race will keep me
busy this weekend.

73 Jeff

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Can someone tell me what SPECIAL ISSUES are for?  Why is a message
generated for particular issues?

Thanks.

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Need money.

I am selling my Libretto 30CT 100Mhz 500meg HD.
English Windows 95 version.

$500 in So. CA only.

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NUMLOCK is a TSR alternative to the MENU+NumPad method of using
the NumPad as a separate cursor keyblock. It's advantage over
the MENU+NumPad method is that it also works under SysMgr and
uses single keystrokes instead of key combinations.

Available on S.U.P.E.R. and

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/numlock.zip

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The new version 1.2 of LXCIC fixes the "flash memory slow down"
bug, discussed earlier on this list. It also works now with
modems which don't have the FUNCID tuple, stating that the PC
card is a modem card. The software is available at

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxcic.zip

and soon on S.U.P.E.R.

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Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:03:00 -0500 (EST)

12h18m32s ago ...
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, F. Kaufman wrote:

> ...
> Can someone tell me what SPECIAL ISSUES are for?  Why is a message
> generated for particular issues?
>

     I believe there is a line limit on the size of DIDEST messages. If
that limit is reached, a second DIGEST for that day is started and the
first is sent out. I'll look it up in the docs when I get back to the
lab tomorrow.

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
*\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
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Subject:      Holiday Fluff

Hi all;
If anyone is innerested in Thai massage, the real or
fake kind, (learning or enjoying), Tamil curry fish roe
or chicken, Thai kick boxing (betting optional), warm
weather during the cold winter, exotic venues, great
large choice of DVDs cheep, general carousing.
and real or imagined sea stories.
Yor welkome ta join me in S.E.Asia this winter.
Leaving Dec, returning Mar.  Pick a date or meet me
somewhere in time along the way.  My itinerary will
be between Chiangmai, Thailand south to Singapore
via KUL.  Would enjoy meeting listers (expats) on the
trip too.  Y'all can email me here before departure or
catch me on the road at hobchi@hotmail.com

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Hi all!  As many of you know I am in the market to buy another 200LX and I
had a question of the ROM versions.  Is there any advantage to say ROM
version 1.02a over 1.01a?

Thanks!

Brian Sugita
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I'm trying to "stack" half of my flash card which is in drive A:. I'd =
like to leave 8Meg of my 16Meg Flash card alone and the other 8Meg I'd =
like to "stack" to give me an additional 16Meg "stacked" space.  In =
other words, when I'm done, I'd like to have drive A: report a disk =
space of 8Meg and drive F: report 16Meg (double spaced) of drive space.

I have been able to get stacker to double space drive A: but it's an all =
or nothing proposition.  When I "stack" the entire card the process =
works because stacker assigns the same drive letter to the stacked drive =
as the host drive.  When, however, I only stack half the space the =
"unstacked" space is unavailable because the stacked drive is using the =
same drive letter as the unstacked drive space.  I try forcing stacker =
to reassign the stacked space as drive F: but it says it can't because =
it is a removable drive media and can only use the same drive letter.  I =
tried using the DOS ASSIGN command but stacker senses the additional =
command and won't work.

Has anyone been able to "stack" half of their memory card and still have =
the unstacked portion available? Is there a command in Stacker that will =
allow me to treat drive A: like any other hard drive?  Has anyone else =
run into this problem?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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14m22s ago ...
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> I'm trying to "stack" half of my flash card which is in drive A:. I'd
> like to leave 8Meg of my 16Meg Flash card alone and the other 8Meg I'd
> like to "stack" to give me an additional 16Meg "stacked" space.  In
> other words, when I'm done, I'd like to hav e drive A: report a disk
> space of 8Meg and drive F: report 16Meg (double spaced) of drive
> space.

Don't know if you can get Stacker to do this.  It's easy with JAM,
though.  In fact JAM automatically assigns the first available drive
letter to the compressed part.  Or it lets you choose a drive
assignment.  JAM is shareware, but is free for private, individual use.

I'm pretty sure it's available on SUPER.

HTH

-Peniel
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No it don't neither.  YES I KAN stak half of my drive.
Hi Danny Boy
I see no problem in making a small stak
file half of your drive.  I can't see how to
get two drives. you will still have one drive
ltr, X.  When yu want the unstacked part,
unmount and yu have native space, when
yu want the staked part yu mount it and
voila yor inside.  Yu kannot have two ltrs
a & b and access both like yu want.

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David

 >I have to say, Avi, that I was a little offended at the tone of your
 >message, because I've read the documentation for TT/LX several times, and
 >have been using it in advanced mode for months and months now-- I'm not an
 >idiot or a newbie with the product. On the other hand, the sudden swamping
 >of messages about TT/LX is probably frustrating-- I can certainly
 >understand that.  Especially knowing how busy you are.  So, I'm not
 >offended anymore, and I hope you're not upset with me.  Friends?  :)

Obviously I am managing to tick off enough people lately. So I am going to do
something proactive....

1. I apologise to all who were offended by my words, and/or by the tone of my
messages. I do not want to do this, and did not intend to offend anyone.

2. I will read, but I will not post here publicly. If I have something to say,
I'll do it in private email. If what I say comes across offensive, at least
the damage will be contained to one person.

As to the question at hand: Well, it was there, I replied to it at least 5
times, just to see the next day more questions of the same ilk. I am a human
being, not superman. My frustration level went up. I am sorry.

The remainder of your message I will anser privately.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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<>


Actually, we are out of 100LX's and no longer list them.  However, we
sell 200LX's from 2 meg to 64 meg with or without 2ble speed.

Check our new web site at www.PalmtopPaper.com.  All products now listed
in our new shopping cart system.  We expect articles and reorg or our
FTP site up within a couple of weeks.

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              Hal Goldstein 
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.

<<1. I apologise to all who were offended by my words, and/or by the
tone of my
messages. I do not want to do this, and did not intend to offend
anyone.>>

Avi, apology accepted. I did find your comments a bit harsh, but no big
deal. You have made a TREMENDOUS contribution to the Palmtop community
on line and with your D&A software.



<<2. I will read, but I will not post here publicly. If I have something
to say,
I'll do it in private email. If what I say comes across offensive, at
least
the damage will be contained to one person.>>

This I don't accept.  It doesn't make sense to me. You serve
everybody and yourself better by responding publicly.  If you really
meant the apology, why would you "punish" us, by staying offline?

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              Joe Barrera 
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Avi,

There are other people on this list (including me) who aren't ticked off at
you and who would rather see you continue to post.

-       Joe

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:52:56 -0400
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F. Kaufman wrote:
>It is no different from NON-rechargeable Lithium AA batteries.  It
>eventually wears out - about a year.

I do not believe this is strictly true. Lithium cells typically have very=

long shelf lives, I have seen up to 10 years quoted. In the Palmtop, if
your main AA batteries are never allowed to flly discharge, then the
Lithium cell is never called upon to provide current to support the
internal memory, thus it is effectively "on-the-shelf" and should provide=

many years of life. HP recommend changing the cell after a year but I thi=
nk
they are just playing it safe. My battery is 2 years old and is still
measuring a full 3V.

Laurence Harvey

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A. Meshar wrote:

> 2. I will read, but I will not post here publicly.

I don't want that to happen.

Hermann

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:01:51 -0400
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When participating in a public forum it is proper to allow for attitudes and
apparent attitudes to exist. It is not in the best interest of the
participants to be left out of the benefit of responses just because someone
might be offended by the exact details of an answer.

We are here by choice and I, for one, am willing to allow great latitude to
those others that may contribute.

Avi, please continue to contribute in the public arena and don't be put off
by those few that aren't willing to "assume" that any response to a question
is meant in the most positive way. Each of us expresses ourselves in a
different way.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson
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David

 >I have to say, Avi, that I was a little offended at the tone of your
 >message, because I've read the documentation for TT/LX several times, and
 >have been using it in advanced mode for months and months now-- I'm not an
 >idiot or a newbie with the product. On the other hand, the sudden swamping
 >of messages about TT/LX is probably frustrating-- I can certainly
 >understand that.  Especially knowing how busy you are.  So, I'm not
 >offended anymore, and I hope you're not upset with me.  Friends?  :)

Obviously I am managing to tick off enough people lately. So I am going to
do
something proactive....

1. I apologise to all who were offended by my words, and/or by the tone of
my
messages. I do not want to do this, and did not intend to offend anyone.

2. I will read, but I will not post here publicly. If I have something to
say,
I'll do it in private email. If what I say comes across offensive, at least
the damage will be contained to one person.

As to the question at hand: Well, it was there, I replied to it at least 5
times, just to see the next day more questions of the same ilk. I am a human
being, not superman. My frustration level went up. I am sorry.

The remainder of your message I will anser privately.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:16:47 -0700
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 sponsor@ftel.net wrote:

> David
>
> Obviously I am managing to tick off enough people lately. So I am
> going to do something proactive....
> 1. I apologise to all who were offended by my words, and/or by the
> tone of my messages. I do not want to do this, and did not intend to
> offend anyone.
> 2. I will read, but I will not post here publicly. If I have something to say,
> I'll do it in private email. If what I say comes across offensive, at least
> the damage will be contained to one person.

Avi, this is definitely not what I want!  I didn't mean it that way; I
always enjoy reading your responses.  All I meant was that you shouldn't
feel _obligated_ to answer every question that comes up about your
product-- we know you're extremely busy, and it's a large waste when the
same question pops up over and over.  Unless you see an error or
something, or if you want to post-- then by all means go ahead!  But you
don't _have_ to answer EVERY question.  Or you'll never have time to do
anything else.  :)

Please, continue posting!  It will not benefit anybody if you stop.
(Except to save you time, but if you're going to do private e-mail, it
won't save any time anyway.)

> As to the question at hand: Well, it was there, I replied to it at
> least 5 times, just to see the next day more questions of the same
> ilk. I am a human being, not superman. My frustration level went up. I
> am sorry.

I know precisely what you mean... this is what I mean when I say you
shouldn't have to answer the same question over and over.

> The remainder of your message I will anser privately.

I look forward to it!

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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> Avi,
>
> There are other people on this list (including me) who aren't ticked
> off at you and who would rather see you continue to post.

I fully agree-- that is not what I intended to convey.  I apologize to all
list members.

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Subject:      Re: Batt 3V lithium

Does not the fact that the batt is connected
with contacts make any difference?

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:49:16 -0500
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Subject:      Running 200lx software on 100lx?

"Actually, we are out of 100LX's and no longer list them.
However, we sell 200LX's from 2 meg to 64 meg with
or without 2ble speed."

Why would any one to get a LX100 now a days
with the LX200+ around?  Just curious.

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Subject:      Stacker says: "It's all or nothing baby!"

Whoa, correction .........

I see no problem in making a small stak
file half of your drive.  I can't see how to get two
drives. you will still have one drive ltr, X.  When
yu want the unstacked part,  unmount and yu
have native space, when yu want the staked
part yu mount it and  voila yor inside.  Yu
kannot have two ltrs a & b and access both
like yu want.

Before I catch a lot of flak on this, Let me say
I think ther are two versions. One is Stacker
and the other is from ACE. The latter did not
present a host drive after stacking and there
fore only one or the other is avail at a time.

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Me neither.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:32:25 -0500
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"I know precisely what you mean... this is what I
 mean when I say you shouldn't have to answer
the same question over and over."

What about the newbie that has the problem tomorrow?
He paid (the same amount as everyone else) for the
product today.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:48:00 -0700
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, al chin wrote:

> What about the newbie that has the problem tomorrow?
> He paid (the same amount as everyone else) for the
> product today.

In that case, people like you and I can step in and answer the question,
since we've seen the question answered before.

And, of course, if they're really in trouble, they could always mail
suport@dasoft.com directly.  :)

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:11:49 -0400
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Hi All:

04h42m06s ago ...
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, al chin wrote:

> ...
> Why would any one to get a LX100 now a days
> with the LX200+ around?  Just curious.

     I actually prefer the screen contrast on my 100LX to my
200LX!

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:11:55 -0400
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Hi All:

03h09m58s ago ...
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, al chin wrote:
>
> > What about the newbie that has the problem tomorrow?
> > He paid (the same amount as everyone else) for the
> > product today.
>
> In that case, people like you and I can step in and answer the question,
> since we've seen the question answered before.
> ...

     This is an EXCELLENT POINT!

     This is one of the main reasons for the LIST existance. Actually I
think we are all pretty good in this area!

Cheers,

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 19:31:36 -0400
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I have a directory on my (stacked) A: drive that has become corrupted.  It
has files and subdirectories whose names are funny graphic characters. When
I try to del the files using filer I get a messages like directory does not
exist.  When I try to del *.* at the DOS prompt, I get access denied.

Any ideas on how to get rid of these?

TIA

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:53:33 -0700
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I would love to see a program to read all those compress palm pilot texts
with out converting tham at all.


Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Patrick - Where does one find them?

Mikhail

> I would love to see a program to read all those compress palm pilot texts
> with out converting tham at all.
>

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Have you tried going to DOS and runing Chkdsk?  It has fixed similar problems
for me in the past.  Don't expect to recover the data, but it may delete the
problem.

Cordially,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:57:13 +0930
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Subject:      Re: fluff:  digital camera
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"Claud G. Cameron"  writes:
> I'm looking for a reasonably-priced digital camera that interfaces with the
> LX.  I know Mr. Kind got one a few weeks ago, but those are sold out.
> Anyone have any recommendations?

I use a Casio QV-10.  I chose it mainly because of the Qvremote
program available on SUPER (and actually, mainly because QVremote
comes with source code).  Specs are 320x200, LCD display, no flash,
direct video output.  It can be controlled by the HP200LX down to the
level of actually taking pictures triggered by entries in APPT
(assuming you've got in on AC power, as the batteries only last about
2 hours).

Over the weekend, I started modifying the source to QVremote to be
able to upload pictures to the camera (I want to upload Dilbert
cartoons from my HP200LX, and be able to display them on a TV).  It
can currently upload YCC files (raw internal format, not viewable),
and it should be able to at least do PPM (Unix portable pixmap format)
in a couple of weeks.

I've written to the author, but no reply.  Even though the copyright
allows me to modify and distribute changes, I would like to get his
personal o.k. first (in case he is still maintaining it himself, and
wants to include my changes in his distribution).

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:32:17 +10
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hi,
I found this card (second hand in Australia).
It's a 10 base 2.
Is someone know if it's compatible with the 200LX.
regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 17:50:58 -0700
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Alain wrote:
>
> hi,
> I found this card (second hand in Australia).
> It's a 10 base 2.
> Is someone know if it's compatible with the 200LX.

I believe that a 10Base2 card would draw too much current to work reliably
in the 200LX.  A minimum of 230-250ma from what I've seen.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:56:31 +10
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hi,
I have a qv10 too,
do you know LXpic include
a CAM2JPG utility?
regards
Alain
> Over the weekend, I started modifying the source to QVremote to be
> able to upload pictures to the camera (I want to upload Dilbert
> cartoons from my HP200LX, and be able to display them on a TV).  It
> can currently upload YCC files (raw internal format, not viewable),
> and it should be able to at least do PPM (Unix portable pixmap format) in
> a couple of weeks.


Al
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It's look like it's bad luck.
Thanx David
Alain
> I believe that a 10Base2 card would draw too much current to work reliably
> in the 200LX.  A minimum of 230-250ma from what I've seen.

Al
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FORMAT.

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>FORMAT

>CHKDSK

been there, tried that, junk still there

Thanks!

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> F. Kaufman wrote:
> >It is no different from NON-rechargeable Lithium AA batteries.  It
> >eventually wears out - about a year.
>
> I do not believe this is strictly true. Lithium cells typically have very
>
> long shelf lives, I have seen up to 10 years quoted. In the Palmtop, if
> your main AA batteries are never allowed to flly discharge, then the
> Lithium cell is never called upon to provide current to support the

While true, I have hit bottom on more than one occasion with my AA's.  I
also change batteries.  Any of these events can drain power from that
little cell. While it may not make ecological sense, I'd rather be safe
than sorry. While I don't adhere to a strict 12 month change cycle, I do
change them.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:09:49 -0500
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Been there done that huh?
Have you tried preying?

I have had the same problemm a couple of times.
Yu get @#$%¬&*&¬¬%% under dir/file name.
how about deltree @*.*
DELTREE from DOS V6.2 does woik on the LX.
or just DEL @*.*

if the above don't woik, stick it under yor pillow till the morrow.

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:04:35 -0500
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Batt 3V lithium

"I'd rather be safe than sorry.  While I don't adhere
to a strict 12 month change cycle, I do change them."

Why?  Most people carry the LX in a pouch. In the
pouch is a little side pocket. In the side pocket I have
a spare 3V and a pair of alks.  I usually charge my NiMh
every other day.  So when the little alarm go off, no
problem.  Why waste good batts and screw up the
environment?

BTW: My little pouch cost $20 custom made in one of
those little Korean leather shops.

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              Jeff Johns 
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Can any hams on the list recommend any QSL logging software that they use on
the LX? I don't really contest type software but something to help me keep
up with contacts and whether or not I have received a qsl card from the
station.

73 Jeff


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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:53:55 -0700
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I used LOG-EQF for satellite and general log keeping for several
years...very intuitive, good support liked it very much. THEN, I got into
contesting and now use TR with my LX...works great, but for your non-contest
use I'd go with EQF. Have tried a few others and given up eg M*LOG, etc.

>Can any hams on the list recommend any QSL logging software that they use on
>the LX? I don't really contest type software but something to help me keep
>up with contacts and whether or not I have received a qsl card from the
>station.
>
73 Floyd NQ7X  Phoenix ScQRPion

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:46:28 -0500
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I downloaded some software for an HP48 and was wondering if there is a way
to convert it to an executable that would run on the 200LX? Is this
possible? Is there someone on the list I could mail it to that could take a
look at it for me?

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Date:         Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:59:20 -0700
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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
I'd rather have PC-DOS with its builtin REXX



Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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BAT in CHARGE on Super checks both batteries and show the status (NiCad v=
s
Alkaline), whether the adapter is connected or not etc.
I have it in AUTOEXEC so I can check that things are OK every time I
reboot.

At the same time I list the free space on the C: and A drive.

My backup battery is several years old now and still show 99%. As soon as=

it starts dropping I will change it (as the discharge curve probably is
very steep) but not before.

Jorgen
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:45:06 +0000
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Greetings to All ( or should that be to Al/Al?),

From Al to Al, or one Kind to another...

On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Al Chin wrote:-

> Why would anyone (want) to get a LX100 nowadays with the LX200+
> around?  Just curious.

On the same day Al Kind gave it to him on the Chin with this reply:-

> I actually prefer the screen contrast on my 100LX to my 200LX!

Ah'll add ma bit, now:   I agree entirely.  At 3am last night local
time (or early this morning) I was struggling by the bedside light to
compare my 100LX with my 200LX.  You see, I had just got my
SUPER-100LX back from Japan, which, as I told you before, was being
upgraded in a once-off experiment from 1MB to 32MB (or 33).  Wow!

I just couldn't go to sleep and just had to get my 100LX up and
running; so I was struggling with the almost unreadable screen of an
unconfigured double-speed 100LX, trying to get the driver installed so
that I could read the screen so that I could get the driver installed,
if you know what I mean.  So I used the boot options on the screen of
my already configured 200LX as a guide to where I was on the scrambled
screen of my 100LX.

There is no doubt about it, the contrast and readability of the
100LX's screen is superior.  Not only that, the keys on the keyboard
are marked in a more visible manner, not just in style but also in
contrast against the 100LX's background.  The lettering is also
slightly bolder on the 100LX and the green colour of the "DATE" etc
keys is clearer.

Other differences, as I think I have said nearly a year ago, include
an extra line more and one character wide in the 100LX's Phone Book.
I had to alter the column widths to get my old data on the 100LX to
just fit onto the 200LX.  Also, the icons are much neater in the
Applications Manager.  Admittedly these are mainly cosmetic changes,
but they do affect your personal preferences and its as if the 200LX
had to be changed for the sake of change.  The DataCard is an extra
option on the 200LX, but if you prefer to see the full entry lines as
I do you don't get the number of entries (or items) at the top as you
do on the 100LX.

Here's another curious difference, at least between my two units.  The
rubber feet on my 100LX are longer than on the 200LX, which is an
advantage on slightly curved surfaces as the 200LX tends to "bottom
out", while the 100LX is a firm as a rock.

Having said all that, I would not be without either.  There are
occasions when I use the same data displayed on each for corrections.
It is great to have the original data on one and make the changes on
the other.  You can't go wrong that way!  In the unlikely event of one
unit packing up, you have the other to continue while the first is
away for repairs.

And now that my 100LX has that extra 32MB of RAM...

Your old 100LXer,

Barry Collins


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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:14:05 +0100
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Please let me know how I can redirect com1 to the infrared port in the 200;
I suppose in Setup/Comm I should change the IO port address from 000 to
something else, but what? I did not find any info in the manual.

The reason I ask for that is I am trying to use interlink with the infrared.
I already use it with the serial cable, and I am also able to use the
IR with kermit on both HP/laptop (around 38500 Kb, not more), but I suppose
interlnk with IR could be a big improvement.

Thanks and regards

Sergio

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Rod,
I have a QV-11 and I am interested in your progress on the QV-Remote program.
Imagine a slide show on any available TV. Great for when I instruct.

Dennis

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 04:13:46 -0700
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Hi all!  Does anyone know where I might be able to buy
the manuals for the HP200LX?  Thanks!

Brian Sugita
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Subject:      Re: Batt 3V lithium

Jorgen;
What's this?
Yor lil batt/clk pgm shows the charge status
of the 3V too?   I didn't know that.  Hmmmm.
Now if only I kould see it in sys aps, it'd be really koool.

all the best.
Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:43:19 -0400
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02h28m30s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Brian Sugita wrote:

> Hi all!  Does anyone know where I might be able to buy
> the manuals for the HP200LX?  Thanks!

Try Thaddeus

http://www.thaddeus.com

Cheers,


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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:24:33 -0400
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Hi All:

     Well, I admit it! I have strayed from th flock. But I have seen
the error of my ways, I'll offer it up here first.

USR PalmPilot for sale:

- PalmPilot Professional(~3 months old)
- TRG 2MB RAM/2MB FLASH memory card
- PalmPilot clip-on MODEM
- lots of registered software
     - FAX
     - POP EMail
     - Web Browser
     - Sync to Schedule/Outlook
     - etc...

Please contact me by Private EMail

Cheers,


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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Barry COLLINS wrote:

> There is no doubt about it, the contrast and readability of the
> 100LX's screen is superior.  Not only that, the keys on the keyboard
> are marked in a more visible manner, not just in style but also in
> contrast against the 100LX's background.  The lettering is also
> slightly bolder on the 100LX and the green colour of the "DATE" etc
> keys is clearer.

The part about the screen is very interesting.  I've handled a fair number
of 200LX, 100LX, and 1000CX screens in my day, and from what I can tell,
they're all pretty much the same.  The ICs on the circuit board have been
changed around locationwise in some screens (from the front to the back,
for example) but otherwise they appear the same.  Which means: if you'd
rather have the higher contrast display in the 200LX, it's relatively easy
to swap them!  :)

> Here's another curious difference, at least between my two units.  The
> rubber feet on my 100LX are longer than on the 200LX, which is an
> advantage on slightly curved surfaces as the 200LX tends to "bottom
> out", while the 100LX is a firm as a rock.

I had this problem, so I decided to try something.  I removed the rubber
feet entirely, and stuck on some larger rubber feet that I bought at Radio
Shack.  Thus far (six or seven months later) it's worked out quite well!
It was a little tricky positioning them right, but my 200LX now has a
quarter-inch of clearance underneath.  I also stuck a velcro strip on
there, so now I can stick it to any fuzzy surface and not worry about it
falling.  

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:48:13 GMT
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Subject:      Re: TECH: redirecting com1 to infrared

It should be com3

In message <4125669B.00381103.00@estecmail1.estec.esa.nl>,
smarra@ESTEC.ESA.NL said:
> Please let me know how I can redirect com1 to the infrared port in the 200;
> I suppose in Setup/Comm I should change the IO port address from 000 to
> something else, but what? I did not find any info in the manual.
>
> The reason I ask for that is I am trying to use interlink with the infrared.
> I already use it with the serial cable, and I am also able to use the
> IR with kermit on both HP/laptop (around 38500 Kb, not more), but I suppose
> interlnk with IR could be a big improvement.
>
> Thanks and regards
>
> Sergio
>
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Hi Pal al;
How much will ya give me to take it offa yor hands?
:)
Kom on guy, if yu give it up, how much kan it be worth?

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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David;
How do you get the feet off?  Did the feet yu got
at RS fit in neatly or didja have ta modify them?

Thinking about this, do you know if there is a how
to do it yourself manual around with all the
instructions on how to do everything regarding
taking the thing apart, changing chips, etc.
I've heard here and there about separate write
ups on separate things.  I would assemble such
a book if I'm told where to collect all the separate
stuff.

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>Hi All:
>     Well, I admit it! I have strayed from th flock. But I have seen
>the error of my ways, I'll offer it up here first.
>USR PalmPilot for sale:


Get thee behind me Satan child....... 8-)

Regards.....Liam

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:56:27 -0400
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48m53s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998 06:55:20 -0700 (CST),  wrote:

> I had this problem, so I decided to try something.  I removed the rubber
> feet entirely, and stuck on some larger rubber feet that I bought at Radio
> Shack.  Thus far (six or seven months later) it's worked out quite well!

Have you not had them come off?  I tried this with some feet I found at a
hamfest and they popped off going in and out of the pocket, and now one of two
bags I carry the 200 in.

Mine has a little pot belly on it, and it's only got 2x/8m.  I'd really like
the 32M, but..  :)

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:36:51 -0700
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Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi all!  Does anyone know where I might be able to buy
> the manuals for the HP200LX?  Thanks!

Try HP's parts number.  A set of manuals will set you back about
$15.00.  That is something that HP really does right!

David, WA7ZYQ

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Hi Palmtoppers!

I have just started to use our dear Lotus 1-2-3 in a more "advanced"
mode than I use to do. With other words, I want to use the Macro
features. Then I realized that I have a problem here since within
1-2-3 you can/have to use key combinations such as:

ALT+F1 to ALT+F5 & ALT+F7
CTRL-F1

But the problem now is that our bultin Lotus apps is an EXM application,
so I can't use the above mentioned key combinations since I have already
assigned them to other EXM program. So instead of activating a feature
within 1-2-3, the key presses will result in an activation of another
EXM program. Now you maybe think that- "this is easy! Just reassign the
keys and free up them for Lotus". Ok, I could do that but then I will
have a problem with finding other free key combinations (has plenty of
EXM programs). The big problem would then be that I need ALT+F5 in
Lotus, but this key combination is already taken by WinTwin (can't be
changed) and I really want to use this program.

So my question is now if anyone out there in the world knows how to
solve this problem? Maybe it's easy- something I didn't think about???

If it's not easy, maybe it could be solved with a TSR- which will
free up the above key combinations when Lotus 1-2-3 is the active
application?? Anyone knows how to do such a program- or are interested
in doin it?


Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:15:47 -0600
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I've tried Stac Electronics stacker versions 3.0, 4.0 and 4.1.  All of =
these versions reassign the current drive to the stacked drive and will =
not let you get to your unstacked drive space.
Al mentioned ACE as another stacker type program.  Has anyone used, or =
is still using, this stacker?

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From:   al chin ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
Sent:   Sunday, October 11, 1998 1:00 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Stacker says: "It's all or nothing baby!"

Whoa, correction .........

I see no problem in making a small stak
file half of your drive.  I can't see how to get two
drives. you will still have one drive ltr, X.  When
yu want the unstacked part,  unmount and yu
have native space, when yu want the staked
part yu mount it and  voila yor inside.  Yu
kannot have two ltrs a & b and access both
like yu want.

Before I catch a lot of flak on this, Let me say
I think ther are two versions. One is Stacker
and the other is from ACE. The latter did not
present a host drive after stacking and there
fore only one or the other is avail at a time.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:33:51 -0600
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              Dan Sommer 
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I've wondered about the screens on the 100/200LX units.  Although the =
differences are minor I have noticed some screens exhibit higher =
contrast.  Two things come to mind 1) HP may have used two sources for =
the screens 2) the difficulty in manufacturing the screens may lead to =
batch differences. =20

-----Original Message-----
From:   David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
Sent:   Monday, October 12, 1998 7:55 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: 100LX -v- 200LX

On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Barry COLLINS wrote:

> There is no doubt about it, the contrast and readability of the
> 100LX's screen is superior.  Not only that, the keys on the keyboard
> are marked in a more visible manner, not just in style but also in
> contrast against the 100LX's background.  The lettering is also
> slightly bolder on the 100LX and the green colour of the "DATE" etc
> keys is clearer.

The part about the screen is very interesting.  I've handled a fair =
number
of 200LX, 100LX, and 1000CX screens in my day, and from what I can tell,
they're all pretty much the same.  The ICs on the circuit board have =
been
changed around locationwise in some screens (from the front to the back,
for example) but otherwise they appear the same.  Which means: if you'd
rather have the higher contrast display in the 200LX, it's relatively =
easy
to swap them!  :)

> Here's another curious difference, at least between my two units.  The
> rubber feet on my 100LX are longer than on the 200LX, which is an
> advantage on slightly curved surfaces as the 200LX tends to "bottom
> out", while the 100LX is a firm as a rock.

I had this problem, so I decided to try something.  I removed the rubber
feet entirely, and stuck on some larger rubber feet that I bought at =
Radio
Shack.  Thus far (six or seven months later) it's worked out quite well!
It was a little tricky positioning them right, but my 200LX now has a
quarter-inch of clearance underneath.  I also stuck a velcro strip on
there, so now I can stick it to any fuzzy surface and not worry about it
falling.  

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:00:22 -0400
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              Feher Tamas 
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From:         Feher Tamas 
Subject:      Nokia 9110, software wishes, etc.

    Hello all,

    About Nokia 9110: I finally visited the Nokia website and
    concluded that it's a low-power 486 running GEOS 3.0, not
    WinCE as I was told three places. So it's still no danger
    for the OGO 700LX.

    Is the 1000CX case is the same as 100LX? (Both black). I was
    told that the 1000CX is closer to the 200LX hardware-wise.

    Software wishlist (who started this thread once again?)
    I'd like to see: a pinball game, where you can play holding the
    LX sideways, so the screen area is similar to a tabletop.

    Second: a good shoot-em-up, which is 3D motion and rendered.

    Third: a cross-platform compiler, that makes it possible to
    port ASM programs between HPLX and the Psion S3 / Siena.
    As all are 8086/186, it should be possible. And wider user
    basis for shareware should encourage developers.

    Fourth: anti-virus SW that runs on the HPLX itself. (Right
    now, neither Scan not F-prot runs on sub-286. What comes closest
    is Dr. Solomon, some fancy parts need a 386; but the virus-buster
    works on an XT. Even that brand may drop XTs soon).

    Fifth: Citrix Metalframe for the Win 3.0, so you could use the
    HPLX as remote GDI terminal with its moderate CPU power. Just
    like those desktop WinCE devices.

             Sincerely:
                            Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:58:43 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein 
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:08:43 -0400
Reply-To:     wally@pop.uky.edu
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From:         Walter Francis 
Subject:      Re: Key Assignment/Key Mapping and Lotus 1-2-3
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02h50m01s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 00:02:30 +0800,  wrote:

> I have just started to use our dear Lotus 1-2-3 in a more "advanced"
> mode than I use to do. With other words, I want to use the Macro
> features. Then I realized that I have a problem here since within
> 1-2-3 you can/have to use key combinations such as:
>
> ALT+F1 to ALT+F5 & ALT+F7
> CTRL-F1

Jorgen, I named my macros with /RNC and for ALT+Z you'd put \Z for the name.

Hope that works, it's been a few months since I set up a bunch of worksheets
for my old job.

Cheers!

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:14:01 -0400
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Hi All:

     Is there a command line that I can add to my AUTOEXEC that will
turn on the trickle(45mA) charger? It would seem that LXSTAT should do
the trick, but I can only seem to start FAST(100mA) charge.

Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:17:50 +1300
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> Hi Palmtoppers!
>
> I have just started to use our dear Lotus 1-2-3 in a more "advanced"
> mode than I use to do. With other words, I want to use the Macro
> features. Then I realized that I have a problem here since within
> 1-2-3 you can/have to use key combinations such as:
>
> ALT+F1 to ALT+F5 & ALT+F7
> CTRL-F1
>
> But the problem now is that our bultin Lotus apps is an EXM application,
> so I can't use the above mentioned key combinations since I have already
> assigned them to other EXM program. So instead of activating a feature
> within 1-2-3, the key presses will result in an activation of another
> EXM program. Now you maybe think that- "this is easy! Just reassign the
> keys and free up them for Lotus". Ok, I could do that but then I will
> have a problem with finding other free key combinations (has plenty of
> EXM programs). The big problem would then be that I need ALT+F5 in
> Lotus, but this key combination is already taken by WinTwin (can't be
> changed) and I really want to use this program.
>
> So my question is now if anyone out there in the world knows how to
> solve this problem? Maybe it's easy- something I didn't think about???
> Thanks and Regards,
> Jorgen

The macros in 123 are usually accessed by Alt + {Single-Character}, the
add-ins (viewer, @base, etc) are accessed by Alt+ F7-F10. Macros can
have one of 26 letters to give you Alt + (1 key) execution, but you can
also assign macros with names, and call them with Alt + F3 (Select the
macro to run:...)

And of course you have the macro \0 (zero) which runs on startup, the
autoexecute macro.

As for all your exm's, I can highly recommend morexm WITH pocket
launcher (lnch102.zip) on super. This combo uses only ONE hot-key,
and then the menu that pops up is (nearly) unlimited!

HTH

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:33:15 -0700
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Jorgen Dydbahl has a set of charging routines called charge.zip.  He has a
trickle charging program, though at 40 mA instead of 45 mA.  I think it is
on S.U.P.E.R.

hth,

Claud

At 15:14 10/12/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi All:
>
>     Is there a command line that I can add to my AUTOEXEC that will
>turn on the trickle(45mA) charger? It would seem that LXSTAT should do
>the trick, but I can only seem to start FAST(100mA) charge.
>

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Walter Francis wrote:

> Have you not had them come off?  I tried this with some feet I found
> at a hamfest and they popped off going in and out of the pocket, and
> now one of two bags I carry the 200 in.

They've been surprisingly durable.  I generally carry my palmtop around in
a pouch along with my 48GX and all the cards and what not.  So it doesn't
get a lot of friction from my pocket.  But the first batch of feet stayed
on for a good five months.  Then I recently switched to a more stylish,
rounded, clear style.  

> Mine has a little pot belly on it, and it's only got 2x/8m.  I'd really like
> the 32M, but..  :)

My feet have proved very durable... get some good, high-quality sticky
ones, and go for it.  

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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, al chin wrote:

> David;
> How do you get the feet off?  Did the feet yu got
> at RS fit in neatly or didja have ta modify them?

These feet are much larger, and I just stick them to the bottom of the
case.  The screw-holes are open, which faciliates quickly taking it apart.

> Thinking about this, do you know if there is a how to do it yourself
> manual around with all the instructions on how to do everything
> regarding taking the thing apart, changing chips, etc. I've heard here
> and there about separate write ups on separate things.  I would
> assemble such a book if I'm told where to collect all the separate
> stuff.

Well, I know www.marcan-dist.com has some instructions, and I have my
"Hardware Hacking" pages...

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:59:04 -0700
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On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Dan Sommer wrote:

> I've wondered about the screens on the 100/200LX units.  Although the
> differences are minor I have noticed some screens exhibit higher
> contrast.  Two things come to mind 1) HP may have used two sources for
> the screens 2) the difficulty in manufacturing the screens may lead to
> batch differences.

They're all pretty much the same -- made by Hitachi.  It looks to me as if
the screen quality changes from batch to batch, because I too have
definitely seen contrast differences between screens...

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Hi All:

02h35m43s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

> ...
>     Fourth: anti-virus SW that runs on the HPLX itself. (Right
>     now, neither Scan not F-prot runs on sub-286. What comes closest
>     is Dr. Solomon, some fancy parts need a 386; but the virus-buster
>     works on an XT. Even that brand may drop XTs soon).

     I run Network Associates(McAfee) VirusScan for DOS v3.1.8. Its no
speed demon, needs a little EMS to load up all the virus patterns, but
the virus data is updated every couple months(uses the same DAT files
as there WIN based products).

see http://www.nai.com

There is also a product called ScanPM for "low memory environments",
but I haven't tried it.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:37:59 -0700
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Hi all, thanks for all that replied.  Looks like I may be getting
my manuals very soon! :)

Brian Sugita
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Subject:      Hiliday sofware wishes

I'd just wish they'd enhance the sys aps
and db aps that they already have.
I use the db aps muchoo.

Semper Mobilis,
yor pal al :) .............

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Hi Danny
I am currently using ACE, probably V2.0
I cannot see/access any other drive except
A: (stack) C: or D:
So I assume they modified it.  However, If I
remember right, there is a util in stack (V3
and/or 4) to make the stack drive itself.

BTW: I usually make a stack drive (file) on my
desktop RAM to my specks then transfer the
file to my LX.  I don't install and make the stack
drive on the LX. Why? probably I was more
extrious on the PC and it seemed easier to do.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:26:24 -0500
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Al
There was a pgm that came out in the last few mths
that I don't remember the name of but there was a
whole bunch of related batt utils in one of which is
TRICKLE charge. If you want I can up it to you.
I don't remember the orig name because I change
all the file names so to not conflict with my curr toys
and to make it more nmonic.

Maybe someone will recognize it. The other utils are:
Dspy, fast, trickle, set up,

This is it, I, T, IT.  Jorgen Dydbahl has a set of charging
routines called charge.zip.  He has a trickle charging
program, though at 40 mA instead of 45 mA.  and it is
on S.U.P.E.R.  The name I don't got.

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On Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:53:33 -0700, Patrick West wrote:

>I would love to see a program to read all those compress palm pilot =
texts
>with out converting tham at all.

I've been thinking about looking into that, but haven't had time =
recently.
I don't think I'd want to get into making a PAL compliant program, but a
simple DOS viewer would be simple enough.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:57:57 -0400
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04h18m48s ago ...
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> Jorgen Dydbahl has a set of charging routines called charge.zip.  He =
has a
> trickle charging program, though at 40 mA instead of 45 mA.  I think it =
is
> on S.U.P.E.R.
>
> hth,

     It helps indeed! File is called CHARGING.ZIP available on
S.U.P.E.R. Thank you Claud, Peniel & Al, and of course, Thank You Jorgen!

Cheers,

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What are the options for the mailing list. I changed mine to MAIL (hated it)
then DIGEST (do not like having to open each mail)
I cannot remember what I had it set to.


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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:48:01 -0400
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Jorgen,
A little more information please. What function does the alt-F5 keypress invoke? Do you intend for the macro to call that function? If so, there may be hope. The functions assigned to the function keys can be called by name from within the macro itself. For example F7 performs the most recent query but this can also be done within the macro by the keyword {query}. I have a good reference book at home.  Years ago I used to write some pretty elaborate macros but now my needs are much more modest.
Rich

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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:52:50 -0400
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Looks like they have a few DOS titles.

http://www.recycledsoftware.com/

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I've made some changes to my website-- www.hplx.net now points to my home
machine, which is connected via ISDN instead of the analog modem that
hplx.net itself uses.  Please, everybody feel free to let me know if it
feels faster (or slower, or the same).

I've also updated my editorial.

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> As for all your exm's, I can highly recommend morexm WITH pocket
> launcher (lnch102.zip) on super. This combo uses only ONE hot-key,
> and then the menu that pops up is (nearly) unlimited!
>

I have not looked at Launcher but have installed Moreexm.  But, still
don't you have to assign a "hotkey" to every exm you want to have
eventually available.  And whether you invoke from the Moreexm menu or
launcher, if you press those hotkeys for some Lotus 123 command won't
you still wind up calling the exm and not executing the Lotus command?

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Hi!

Is your PalmPilot PC card capable?
Is this a modification done by you?

Pablo KIM


On 10-12 09:24am, you wrote:

> Hi All:
>
>      Well, I admit it! I have strayed from th flock. But I have seen
> the error of my ways, I'll offer it up here first.
>
> USR PalmPilot for sale:
>
> - PalmPilot Professional(~3 months old)
> - TRG 2MB RAM/2MB FLASH memory card

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.21) EVALUATION

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> Jorgen,

Hi Rich,

> A little more information please. What function does the alt-F5 keypress=

> invoke? Do you intend for the macro to call that function? If so, there
> may be hope. The functions assigned to the function keys can be called =
by
> name from within the macro itself

Alt+F5 is the Learn function- recording of a macro and that one I
deffinately would like to use. But WinTwin has already taken this key
combination....
>

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:41:57 +0200
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Some time ago someone in this list asked if it was possible to automate
the synchronization of the LX Pocket Quicken files with Quicken for
Windows.

I do it with the following batch file, using the HP Connectivity Pack:

        rem ** Connect with LapLink, and wait for connection
        llra1
        llra2
        llra3 /c
        :wait
        llra_env /w
        if errorlevel 1 goto wait

        rem ** Backup my LX files
        xcopy /m/s f:\*.* d:\user\backuplx

        rem ** Start the LX emulator from HP Connectivity Pack
        tkernel
        cg

        rem ** Sync. Quicken file at d:\user\quicken\qdata.qdt
        rem ** with Pocket Quicken file at
        rem ** d:\user\backuplx\quicken\qdata.pdt
        rem ** for details, see sample file from HP Connectivity Pack
        pp /s d:\user\quicken\qdata.qdt d:\user\backuplx\quicken\qdata.pdt q
c:\tmp\qdata.log 1 -1 1

        rem ** Unload LX emulator
        cg
        un200

        rem ** Copy the synchronized file back to the LX
        copy d:\user\backuplx\quicken\qdata.pdt f:\quicken\qdata.pdt


To run this under Win95, you just have to select
Properties->Program->Advanced->Avoid that MSDOS programs detect Windows
(more or less, my windows is in Portuguese...)

I simply run it from AUTOEXEC.BAT


Hope it helps anyone.
Paulo

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:22:34 -0400
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>From:    Patrick West 
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>I'd rather have PC-DOS with its builtin REXX

I run Quercus Systems "Personal Rexx" on my 200LX.
It's a bit slow on a single speed pc but it runs fine.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:56:05 -0400
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>>It sure would help if we would start seeing some CE handhelds based on the
>>x86. I'm surprised there aren't any already. I've got to think that Cryix
or
>>AMD or one of the other x86 cloners would be more than pleased to sell
their
>>chips in the expanding WinCE market...
>
>Can't be done. WinCE was designed based on some assumptions about
>the underlying hardware (i.e. virtual memory management, registers,
>RISC instructions set, etc.) that the x86 architecture just doesn't
>support. You could possibly develop a Hardware Abstraction Layer (HAL)
>for WinCE to run on the x86, but it would be a major expense and
>would probably run like crap.
>
>John


I have a Pentium 166 system here in my lab that's running WinCE. Not a
portable, but a tower with supported PCI, ISA and PCMCIA slots.

Here's an interesting tidbit, though. The way Microsoft supplies it, I've
got to boot to DOS, and then run a wince bootloader from the command line
:-)

rick

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>
>Kurt
>*********************************************************************
>>It sure would help if we would start seeing some CE handhelds based on the
>>x86. I'm surprised there aren't any already. I've got to think that Cryix
>or
>>AMD or one of the other x86 cloners would be more than pleased to sell
>their
>>chips in the expanding WinCE market...

If only it were really expanding....

rick

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Are these REXX packages like the REXX I use on the IBM mainframe.....ie a
scripting language like PERL?

Or are you guys talking about something totally different? And what do you
use it for?

- Longden





Russel Brooks  on 10/13/98 07:22:34 AM

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>From:    Patrick West 
>On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>I'd rather have PC-DOS with its builtin REXX

I run Quercus Systems "Personal Rexx" on my 200LX.
It's a bit slow on a single speed pc but it runs fine.

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I think there's a REXX interpreter on SUPER. I know that I have run it
on the LX but didn't want to have to learn it.

>
>
> Are these REXX packages like the REXX I use on the IBM
> mainframe.....ie a
> scripting language like PERL?
>
> Or are you guys talking about something totally different?
> And what do you
> use it for?
>

snip
> I run Quercus Systems "Personal Rexx" on my 200LX.
> It's a bit slow on a single speed pc but it runs fine.
>
> Russ Brooks

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:45:54 -0400
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Hmm.. upon further review, the most outstanding part of this site is the
collection books.

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 9:53 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Here's a good source for recycled software
>
>
> Looks like they have a few DOS titles.
>
> http://www.recycledsoftware.com/
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:52:22 -0600
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I have two questions concerning telnet/lx:

1) What does the url link look like for a telnet connection?
   Is it desc. ?  I'm trying to =
make a link on my home page in HV to open up a telnet connection.  This =
leads me to the second question:

2)  I get a screen of garbage when I run telnet from HV.  I've added =
telnet to the list of services in hn.cfg, and it seems to launch, it just =
has two blocks of garbage at about columns 25 and 60. each block is about =
10 blocks square, at the bottom of the screen.  Any ideas?

TIA

Chris


Chris Hoover
IDEAtank
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This email was sent from an HP 200LX using Post/LX 2.0a

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Jorgen,
You can achieve the same effect by using the command sequence "/wl". This can be assigned to whatever hot-key combination is convenient or you can build your own menus.  Some advice on using macros... become familiar with and take advantage of the "named range" feature.

Let me know if I can help you further.

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Is there a way to do that synchronization? Thank you...

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:30:30 -0500
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I just got a new larger flash.  It's the IBM Solid State File 40MB.  When
running I've noticed a couple of annoying trates.

First, on power-up there is a sizable (about 3 seconds) delay after the
screen turns on before any keypress is accepted.  Can that be elimated?
What's going on while I'm waiting?

Then, during the first directory scan of the Flash, there's a long pause
while it figures out how much space is on this disk.  (I noticed that my
10M flash does this too, but it's less noticable.)  I figure I have to
deal with this as part of having the lovely MSDOS file system.. is there
any way around it?

Finally, there are some utilities that can be used to control its speed/
current consumption, its ability to go into a sleep mode, and how sectors
are erased and rewritten.  All the utilities require the card services
that came with the card - and don't seem to be compatable with the
Microsoft (ick) Device Driver that's built into the ROM.  It's not in
the config.sys - is there anyway of putting different drivers on the
200lx?

Thanks!
Rudy Moore

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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Rudy Moore wrote:

> I just got a new larger flash.  It's the IBM Solid State File 40MB.  When
> running I've noticed a couple of annoying trates.
> First, on power-up there is a sizable (about 3 seconds) delay after the
> screen turns on before any keypress is accepted.  Can that be elimated?
> What's going on while I'm waiting?

Basically, the palmtop is scanning the card type and verifying the size.
Technically, it can be eliminated, but not without rendering the card
inaccessible.  This is the same delay noticed by people who have the 160MB
card from Simple Tech.  In the IBM card's case, it's just a slower card,
hence the same delay for a smaller-capacity card.

> Then, during the first directory scan of the Flash, there's a long pause
> while it figures out how much space is on this disk.  (I noticed that my
> 10M flash does this too, but it's less noticable.)  I figure I have to
> deal with this as part of having the lovely MSDOS file system.. is there
> any way around it?

I notice the same thing on my card.  I don't think it's fixable either,
but if anybody has any ideas, I'd be glad to hear them.  :)

> Finally, there are some utilities that can be used to control its speed/
> current consumption, its ability to go into a sleep mode, and how sectors
> are erased and rewritten.  All the utilities require the card services
> that came with the card - and don't seem to be compatable with the
> Microsoft (ick) Device Driver that's built into the ROM.  It's not in
> the config.sys - is there anyway of putting different drivers on the
> 200lx?

I don't think so, but you might be able to do it on laptop or desktop
PCMCIA drive -- and you'll probably want to get a desktop PCMCIA drive
anyway, now that you have a larger flash card.  They've very handy for
backups and file transfers.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:58:01 -0500
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              al chin 
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Subject:      MOVIES

Film is very simiitude, but then so is life.
Will the person who created MOVIES.GDB
pls reply.  TIA

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:05:23 -0500
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In the for what it is worth section. I while back I asked for help on a
100lx that if turn off  then on or if left for a while would not come
back on or would only come on doing a hard reset thus reinitialize the
ram.  I was ready to send it in to get it fixed when I decided to
replace the back up battery. To make a long story short I now have a
working 100LX.
The moral to the story is that when doubt, Make sure that the batteries
are in good shape.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:22:36 -0500
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Rudy Moore wrote:
Hey Rudy, long time!

> I just got a new larger flash.  It's the IBM Solid State File 40MB.  When
> running I've noticed a couple of annoying trates.
>

I have this card also.

>
> First, on power-up there is a sizable (about 3 seconds) delay after the
> screen turns on before any keypress is accepted.  Can that be elimated?
> What's going on while I'm waiting?
>

Mine does this too. I think that the palmtop is checking the card out.

> Then, during the first directory scan of the Flash, there's a long pause
> while it figures out how much space is on this disk.  (I noticed that my
> 10M flash does this too, but it's less noticable.)  I figure I have to
> deal with this as part of having the lovely MSDOS file system.. is there
> any way around it?
>

I don't notice this as much. How many "buffers" do you have set in CONFIG.SYS?

>
> Finally, there are some utilities that can be used to control its speed/
> current consumption, its ability to go into a sleep mode, and how sectors
> are erased and rewritten.  All the utilities require the card services
> that came with the card - and don't seem to be compatable with the
> Microsoft (ick) Device Driver that's built into the ROM.  It's not in
> the config.sys - is there anyway of putting different drivers on the
> 200lx?
>

None of the utilities would work in the 200LX. I had some success with them on
my
laptop, but you really don't need any of them IMHO.

>
> Thanks!
> Rudy Moore

Comment:
     If it is any consolation, this card is a lot faster than my old IBM 10 MB
card. It isn't half
bad really. I do notice that my palmtop batteries don't last as long with this
card as with my old 10MB card.
I also notice that the "low battery press ESC" msg comes up now most often when
I am turning the palmtop
on. I think that the card might draw more current when it is starting up, which
makes your low batteries show
up at that point.

-Bryan

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:23:14 -0500
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: IBM Solid State File 40MB

David;
you'll probably want to get a desktop PCMCIA drive
anyway, now that you have a larger flash card.
They've very handy for backups and file transfers.

I have just the (brand new) drive.
Wadddya got ta trade fer it?

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After a long, long time I finally solved my XJ1144 problem.
This modem was really slow. It is a 14400 baud modem, but all I
could get out of it was about 2400 baud. The error was, that I
had in my WWW.CFG file the value Baud=3D28800. After using WWW/LX
in debug mode, I saw the modem messages:
 CARRIER 14400
 PROTOCOL LAP-M
 CONNECT 2400

After I changed to Baud=3D38400, I got
 CARRIER 14400
 PROTOCOL LAP-M
 CONNECT 38400

and now the XJ1144 is really fast running at 14400 baud.
After some more testing, I found out, that 19200, 38400 and
57600 are ok, however 57600 sometimes fails to connect.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:46:24 -0700
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Are these REXX packages like the REXX I use on the IBM mainframe.....ie a
> scripting language like PERL?

Yes,

> And what do you use it for?

In my case to backup data and  other tasks

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:50:36 -0700
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:
> I run Quercus Systems "Personal Rexx" on my 200LX.

Likewise, but what I like about the IBM PC DOS 7 is I don't need a tsr for
it to work. IBM PC DOS 7 sees it is rexx and call the rexx program.



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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:41:36 -0800
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Hello,

Cleaning off my shelf of old software.  I have "The complete Writer's Toolkit"
for sale.  It contains six tools:

Grammer and style checker
American Heritage Dictionary
Dictionary Quotations
Thesaurus
Abbriviation Program
Grammer and style reference guide.

This is the Dos version and I have used it on my 200lx.

Asking $14 + shipping

If interested, email me.

Mark
larsomar@ucs.orst.edu

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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:24:33 -0400
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              "Rodger N. Bird II" 
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Mark,
I'm Interested.
How much space does it take on the flashcard?
How many words are included in the dictionary?
Are the separate programs or included in one big program.
Do the program(s) run as a TSR or can it be run as a stand alone program?
Thank You,
Rodger


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Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 8:42 PM
Subject: Writer's Toolkit FS


>Hello,
>
>Cleaning off my shelf of old software.  I have "The complete Writer's
Toolkit"
>for sale.  It contains six tools:
>
>Grammer and style checker
>American Heritage Dictionary
>Dictionary Quotations
>Thesaurus
>Abbriviation Program
>Grammer and style reference guide.
>
>This is the Dos version and I have used it on my 200lx.
>
>Asking $14 + shipping
>
>If interested, email me.
>
>Mark
>larsomar@ucs.orst.edu
>
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:44:47 -0500
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Left the HP ranks, when Act 4.0 was  being used at the office.  No longer
possible, so I believe, to sync the database in ACT 4.0 as we had been
doing in ACT 3.0.  Notes and a campaign to Symantec proved fruitless.

In the 1 year interim, I wonder if others have had this issue?  The ACT
implementation is quite poor on the Palm Pilot III.

I still have my 200LX with a large flash card, so I would just love the
opportunity to use it with ACT once again.

Any thoughts would be gratefully acknowledged.

Art Rieders

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:53:48 +10
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Hi
I would like to try FW IV.
Is some one could send me this software?
Thanx.
regards
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08h28m50s ago ...
On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:46:24 -0700 (CST),  wrote:

> > Are these REXX packages like the REXX I use on the IBM mainframe.....ie a
> > scripting language like PERL?
>
> In my case to backup data and  other tasks

Which REXX do you use?  I use BRexx, which has some differences from ARexx on
my Amiga that I am used to, but it works well.  The archive from the BRexx
website won't directly work, needs to be compiled with 8087 emulation, and the
emulator does not work.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 03:35:17 -0400
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07h06m07s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:02:00 +0000 (GMT),  wrote:

> After a long, long time I finally solved my XJ1144 problem.
> This modem was really slow. It is a 14400 baud modem, but all I
> could get out of it was about 2400 baud. The error was, that I
> had in my WWW.CFG file the value Baud=28800. After using WWW/LX

This is probably parsing from WWW/LX, as 28800 baud is not a standrd speed for
a serial port.  ...2400, 4800, 9600  19200, 38400, 57600, 115200, and 230400
are DTE speeds.  14400, 28800, etc. are DCE speeds.  DTE is computer<->modem,
and DCE is modem<->modem.

I have a 28.8 modem and a 2x machine and I leave the DTE speed to 19200.
Anything greater I imagine the palmtop would lose characters and run slower.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:37:53 -0700
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Hi I was wondering.  What all is included in the HP200LX
connectivity kit?  Is it worth the $75-$100 I see it for?  I
noticed I can get the serial cable for about $25 and I have
the Transfile WIN 200 software already.  Thanks!

Brian Sugita
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 02:27:42 -0700
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Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi I was wondering.  What all is included in the HP200LX
> connectivity kit?  Is it worth the $75-$100 I see it for?  I
> noticed I can get the serial cable for about $25 and I have
> the Transfile WIN 200 software already.  Thanks!
>

It also comes with a number of serial adapters (male->female,
male->male, 9-pin->25-pin) and an attractive, black and purple
box.  So unless you really need to CPACK software (which is
handy for accessing *.?db files on your PC), it's not worth
it.

Eric

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:38:18 +0000
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> how do you get
>
>  CARRIER 14400
>  PROTOCOL LAP-M
>  CONNECT 38400
>
> to show up? And what debug mode do you choose for the www.exe command.

First I used DataComm from SysMgr to connect to my ISP. All I
did was setting up COM2 with 38400. Then I entered:

AT&F
ATW1DTyour_isp_nr

Note: W1 reports all connect information in readable form

Then I switched over to www.cfg and entered:

Baud=3D38400
ModemInit=3DAT&F
Dial=3DATW1DTyour_isp_nr

Then I ran

WWW -10 > test.txt

After HV started up I immediately exited and looked at the file
test.txt. It had all connect information scattered somewhere in
between the login procedure. Not as nice as with DataComm, but
it was there.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:38:21 +0000
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> On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:
>
> > After a long, long time I finally solved my XJ1144 problem....
>
> Interesting, I can't get mine to connect at > 19800.

no problem for me. Maybe it  depends on your ISP?

> What do you use for init strings? AT&F is what I've had most success
> with.

so did I

> I have also had problems w/ BGFAX and this modem.
> What do you use for a FAX program?

tried QFAX once, but could not get it to work with the XJ1144.
I cannot say if the addressed fax was the problem or my modem.
However if I use QFAX with my external modem I am able address
this fax. So either QFAX or the fax machine cannot handle the
XJ1144.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:38:23 +0000
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> I have a 28.8 modem and a 2x machine and I leave the DTE speed to =
19200.
> Anything greater I imagine the palmtop would lose characters and run =
slower.

As you said, DTE is the computer<->modem speed. It is state of
the art, that this interface is interrupt driven. That means,
any character coming from the modem interrupts the pamtop and
writes the character in a buffer. The software monitors the
read/write pointer of this buffer and acts according to it.
Whenever the software is not able to clean the buffer in time,
flow control has to come into the game.

I wrote several communication programs working that way. It was
not me who invented this procedure. It is described in any good
book about data communication under DOS.

I'm almost sure, WWW/LX works that way as every other serious
communication program. It is not easy to set up and handle the
UART interrupt, but once it works, no characters are lost, no
matter which DTE speed you use.

Unfortunately DOS does not support interrupt driven IO with the
serial port. That is, if your software only uses INT14 BIOS
services to handle the serial port, you have to poll for
incoming characters, which indeed could lose characters, if
your software is not at the right place in the right time.
This is a DOS shortcut from the very beginning and hence no
programmer uses INT14 BIOS services to access the serial port.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:45:20 -0400
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I have been looking for the same thing, and the simple answer seems to be
'NO'.

IntelliSync can sync to Lotus Organizer, but only to 'stand-alone' mode.
No luck there...

I was told, and a *sales* guy at Puma also stated, that it *might* be
possible to do a two-step sync.  Set up Organizer in 'group mode' with your
Notes database as the data source.  First, sync your HP200LX to something
like Schedule+.  Then, using IntelliSync for Notebooks, do a PIM sync from
Sched+ to Organizer.  The problem is that the ISync for NB *doesn't support
Notes databases!!!*

So, I spent $105 (one full product, one upgrade) and still have no sync to
Notes ... now I mainly use my Philips Nino, which I have a program that
syncs very well to Notes.  Amazing - I like the HP best, but the Notes Sync
is so important that I use something else...!

If you find anything that works, let me know...

Mike

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:33:00 -0700
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I appreciate all the feedback I got from everyone. I am headed to Paris,
Leaving Saturday night and returning Friday night, so I'll at least have Sunday
to look around. I looked for International numbers for AT&T "WorldNet" but
didn't find any for overseas... Don't know if that was just oversight on my
part or a misleading title on AT&T's part. I am looking into IBMNET as an
alternative. One final question - will a standard phone cord work for the modem
connection, or is there a different standard in France? Thanks again to all who
gave such useful and timely feedback.

Brian McIlvaine

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:50:26 +10
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              Alain 
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Hi Brian.
first, je te souhait un bon voyage en france,
//Have a good trip in france
Give a kiss to this city I miss so much.
second;
you will have no probleme with your modem.
you will find a cable RJ11 to French tel plug.
Tell me if you need some advise about Paris.
:-)
regards from Melbourne
Alain
> I appreciate all the feedback I got from everyone. I am headed to Paris,
> Leaving Saturday night and returning Friday night, so I'll at least have
> Sunday to look around. I looked for International numbers for AT&T
> "WorldNet" but didn't find any for overseas... Don't know if that was just
> oversight on my part or a misleading title on AT&T's part. I am looking
> into IBMNET as an alternative. One final question - will a standard phone
> cord work for the modem connection, or is there a different standard in
> France? Thanks again to all who gave such useful and timely feedback.
>
> Brian McIlvaine


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:36:43 +0000
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Whenever I try to download a file from s.u.p.e.r using WWW/LX
I see this error message:

Problem receiving data
Connection closed by remote host

At the very beginning of WWW/LX and s.u.p.e.r. it was
impossible to download. Then something had changed, and it was
possible. Now it is again not possible. I'd like to know the
reason why.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:21:42 +0800
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> Jorgen,

Hi There!

> You can achieve the same effect by using the command sequence "/wl".
> This can be assigned to whatever hot-key combination is convenient
> or you can build your own menus.  Some advice on using macros...
> become familiar with and take advantage of the "named range"
> feature.

No, unfortunately you can't. "/wl" will only give you the commands-
"Range, Cancel & Erase". To start and stop the macro recording, you
have to use ALT+F5 (which in my case is taken by WinTwin). So I guess
the only way is to write a TSR program which will dissable all the
key assignments when Lotus 1-2-3 is active. But how to do that??
>

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:38:42 -0700
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Hi Brian,
I have several connectivity kit for sale @ $50 each.
Also other accessories for the HP200LX for sale if you're interest

John    

Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi I was wondering.  What all is included in the HP200LX
> connectivity kit?  Is it worth the $75-$100 I see it for?  I
> noticed I can get the serial cable for about $25 and I have
> the Transfile WIN 200 software already.  Thanks!
>
> Brian Sugita
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 21:41:38 +0800
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Subject:      Re: WWW/LX cannot download from S.U.P.E.R.
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I had the same problem before but it was not with S.U.P.E.R. It turned out
that my ISP was changing the configuration for security. A phone call
cleared it up.

Richard

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>Whenever I try to download a file from s.u.p.e.r using WWW/LX
>I see this error message:
>
>Problem receiving data
>Connection closed by remote host
>
>At the very beginning of WWW/LX and s.u.p.e.r. it was
>impossible to download. Then something had changed, and it was
>possible. Now it is again not possible. I'd like to know the
>reason why.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:53:18 -0700
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Rodger N. Bird II wrote:

> How much space does it take on the flashcard?
> How many words are included in the dictionary?
> Are the separate programs or included in one big program.
> Do the program(s) run as a TSR or can it be run as a stand alone program?

I've got the program as well, but quit using it for the (better, in my
opinion) American Heritage Dictionary, and now the Collins Dictionary from
Thaddeus.  WTK takes up about ... 7MB when fully installed, or just over
2MB (or maybe it was 3MB) for just the dictionary.  I'm not sure how many
words are in the dictionary, but it seems decent-- not nearly as many as
the Standard or Deluxe AHD, or the Collins Dictionary.  The programs are
basically one TSR you load, and then you can either pop them up separately
with different hotkeys, or pop up a menu and select from there.  As far
as I can tell (and the manual says no different) there is not a standalone
mode, which was a big factor in my move to these other dictionaries.

But, it does have some tools that aren't included with the other packages,
like a dictionary of quotations, and an "encyclopedia" (dictionary of
common knowledge) and a grammar checker and what not.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:42:47 -0400
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              Feher Tamas 
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Subject:      Parallel port--> CD enclosures, ABC Bicom 260i, etc.

        Hello all,

    Those of you in the EU and USA, is Token-Ring alive there?
    I mean still in use some places? I think, it could work with
    any of the parallel PCMCIA cards for the HPLX and the Xircom
    Pocket Token Ring III parallel to TR 4/16 adapter. But if TR
    is just dead everywhere, I won't buy that toy, even if cheap.

    What about ArcNet (yes, that 2,5Mbit/s ancient tecnique)?
    Theoretically what could be done to hook a 200LX onto it?
    I am sure no PCMCIA exists and never seen parallel port box.
    It's just curiosity, but I actually know of a place where it
    is in use and will be for 2 years (last in the whole world?)

    Do you know, what makes a parallel port to IDE or SCSI CD-ROM
    external enclosure? I've been told, all electronics needed is
    only one small Hitachi IC (at least for the IDE version).
    Any users on this list? Ideal for the HPLX.

    However, these boxes are often sold for more than 150$ here.
    I should certainly start soldering one myself if I find info
    on the required chip. But Hitachi website is not much help.

    If anyone needs some Bicom ABC 260i (once 286/16 subnotebook)
    parts fo free, e-mail me. I think the LCD controller on M/B is
    blown. It has the FDD, but not the HDD.

    Also, I have the unopened Nostradamus for Turbo Pascal software.
    (supports TP version 5.5 and OOP extensions). If one could
    make some use of it, I'll donate the package.

                Sincerely:
                                Tamas Feher.

    P.s.: About anti-virus, I remember reading that even ScanPM (for
    low memory situations) needs a 286 or what. Yes, there is some
    sense in running anti-virus on a desktop PC and downloading there.
    But how can GP, Post/LX and Minuet mobile users protect themselves
    from viruses and trojans hidden in text-only e-mail? Those can
    erase your falsh card even if you only open the mail! 8-)

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:38:38 -0700
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              Steven Lawson 
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Subject:      Re: Don't use 28800 baud with Megahertz XJ1144

On 10-14 05:38am, you wrote:

> Whenever the software is not able to clean the buffer in time,
> flow control has to come into the game.

true

> It is not easy to set up and handle the
> UART interrupt, but once it works, no characters are lost, no
> matter which DTE speed you use.

not exactly true, if the baud rate exceeds the ability of the
processor to handle interrupts you'll lose characters no matter
what the handshake scheme used.  This is why fifos are so
important, not so much for the reduction in interrupt count as
for the simple ability to lower interrupt overhead so you can
handle greater speeds.  Some Motorola DUARTS I work with have
a "receiver controlled RTS" feature that allows the chip to
do its own handshaking shpuld you get behind in your ability
to handle interrupts.  Alas, no such feature on the Intel stuff.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:57:55 -0400
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              Russel Brooks 
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>Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
>Likewise, but what I like about the IBM PC DOS 7 is I don't need a tsr=
 for
>it to work. IBM PC DOS 7 sees it is rexx and call the rexx program.

Personal Rexx can be made to be called directly by DOS releases before =
7 (maybe
before 6).
I like that Personal Rexx uses the file extension REX, not BAT as IBM P=
C REX
does.

The main reason I still use Personal Rexx is because I have been using =
it since
it first came out and
am used to it.  They are both good products.

Russ Brooks
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:02:41 -0400
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              Russel Brooks 
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>Are these REXX packages like the REXX I use on the IBM mainframe.....i=
e a
>scripting language like PERL?

The is the same REXX that originated on the mainframe.  (REXX on VM/CMS=
 is
still my most used
programming language.)  The main differences between the mainframe and =
pc
environments
will probably be in the I/O instructions.

Check out www.quercus.com for a Rexx Demo that will run on the HPLX.  T=
he demo
is limited to 50 line
programs but you can do a lot in 50 lines.

Russ Brooks
=

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Buy an IntelliSync Connectivity Kit which you can easily exchange &
synchronize information between your HP200LX palmtop PC & your PC.

I have several for sale @ $50 each.
Also have others accessories for the HP200LX for sale

John    



Bulent Bicioglu wrote:
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> Is there a way to do that synchronization? Thank you...
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Hi Michael,
I have several Intellisync brand new in box for sale @ $50 each.
Also other accessories for sale.
John    


Michael Anderson wrote:
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> I have been looking for the same thing, and the simple answer seems to be
> 'NO'.
>
> IntelliSync can sync to Lotus Organizer, but only to 'stand-alone' mode.
> No luck there...
>
> I was told, and a *sales* guy at Puma also stated, that it *might* be
> possible to do a two-step sync.  Set up Organizer in 'group mode' with your
> Notes database as the data source.  First, sync your HP200LX to something
> like Schedule+.  Then, using IntelliSync for Notebooks, do a PIM sync from
> Sched+ to Organizer.  The problem is that the ISync for NB *doesn't support
> Notes databases!!!*
>
> So, I spent $105 (one full product, one upgrade) and still have no sync to
> Notes ... now I mainly use my Philips Nino, which I have a program that
> syncs very well to Notes.  Amazing - I like the HP best, but the Notes Sync
> is so important that I use something else...!
>
> If you find anything that works, let me know...
>
> Mike
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:23:06 -0400
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>From:    Ed Padin 
>I think there's a REXX interpreter on SUPER. I know that I have run it=

>on the LX but didn't want to have to learn it.

I don't remember seeing Rexx on SUPER but I could be wrong.
There is a good demo available at http://www.quercus-sys.com/.

One of Rexx's strengths is that it is a very simple language.
It is easy to learn and easy to use.  Because it is an interpreted
language it isn't too fast.  It is great for those run once
projects or for modeling a concept before recoding it in a faster
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can
also make good use of it.

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>
> Whenever I try to download a file from s.u.p.e.r using WWW/LX
> I see this error message:
>
> Problem receiving data
> Connection closed by remote host
>
> At the very beginning of WWW/LX and s.u.p.e.r. it was
> impossible to download. Then something had changed, and it was
> possible. Now it is again not possible. I'd like to know the
> reason why.
>
>

Just Downloaded NUMLOCK from S.U.P.E.R with wwwlx 2+ and CSI
as ISP - no problems 

HP
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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:49:37 -0700
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Conrad:

>>Shame on you! :) This was in WWW/LX Plus Version 1
already!!!!! <<

Avi, I have to be honest. Like a few others here, I manage
HTML mail with a hammer (read DELETE key.) (g) I know, I
know, I'm probably missing out on important info. My choice.
You can imagine how I might have missed that feature in GP
(g).

My apologies to Goin Postal users.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
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15h58m28s ago ...
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 00:36:43 +0000 (GMT),  wrote:

> Whenever I try to download a file from s.u.p.e.r using WWW/LX
> I see this error message:
>
> Problem receiving data
> Connection closed by remote host

I figured it was just me, as I have a feeling that WWW/LX doesn't like my
SLIRP-based PPP connection.  Just sits there at 0 bytes until I wait forever
or hit CTRL.  Hadn't tried it on any other wites.

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Hi,


Do any of you digital camera buffs know if there is any DOS software that
can handle downloading from a  Kodak DC-25.  I know there is software for
the Casio QV-10 and I thought it might be compatible.


Thanks in advance,
Jon

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I don't normally use LXDR, but am giving it a try during a business trip.
When I run it, either stand-alone or from externals inside www/lx, =
nothing
happens.  The error message is that no messages are present.  What's
going on?  I know there are messages in the file.  Any odeas?

-Chris

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Hi all !

I found this URL and thought you might like it too.

Enjoy.....




Jon



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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:53:42 +0200
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I read at www.dasoft.com that WWW/LX is able to connect to internet via
a computer that is using PPP/SLIP using the "direct" connection.

Does that mean that You can connect Your hp200lx to the serial port on a PC
that is "on" the Internet, and thereby downloading Your email and news
with post/lx.
I read that it had been done with Linux.
If one (against his/her will) is using Window$ 95/NT4, is it possible
to do the above?

How is it done? Any ideas or experiences?


       /tomas moberg                         Uppsala

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What command line are you using? You need to specify the file name of the
digest in the command line.

rick


>I don't normally use LXDR, but am giving it a try during a business trip.
>When I run it, either stand-alone or from externals inside www/lx, nothing
>happens.  The error message is that no messages are present.  What's
>going on?  I know there are messages in the file.  Any odeas?
>
>-Chris
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I wonder if one of the geographers on the list can help me.

Does this unit work with GPS programs for 200LX? Someone offered it to
me. If it can interface, I will buy it.

Thanks,

Mikhail

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:42:17 EDT
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Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist -- along with DOS drivers
and OCR?

I've often thought it would be neat to be able to handscan magazines, books,
etc. when taking long flights....downloading to the HP later.

Thanks in advance,

Al McKinney
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:13:00 -0500, Carson, Jon A. wrote:

>Do any of you digital camera buffs know if there is any DOS software =
that
>can handle downloading from a  Kodak DC-25.  I know there is software =
for
>the Casio QV-10 and I thought it might be compatible.

Visit http://home.t-online.de/home/Oliver.Hartmann/dc20secr.htm

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:53:01 -0500
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I found this URL and thought you might like it too.

Jon

It'd help all of us a hole bunch if y'all let us knows what's
dare so some of  don't gotta waste hour times :)    TIAs

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A recent issue of Thaddeus's Palmtop Computing mentioned an HP booklet
"Technical Applications: Step-by-Step Solutions for your HP27s or HP19b
Calculator" Ed. Nov. 1987.  Does anyone know where one can get this
booklet.

The solutions generalize to the HP100 and HP200.

I have tried HP's phone line (twiceand was told that the booklet was
obsolete and no longer available.  Since I have a recently purchased
HP19BII, I am not too impressed with HP's service.  In the process of
finding out that the document was not available, I did find that the HP
price was $12.00 US and the part number was 00027-90044

I am impressed with Al Kind's management of this list.  He promptly
responded when I had problems sending this message earlier.  Again, Thanks
Al.

Any ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Thomas G. Hess
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That is Kudos for Al and brickbats for my failure to use the dictionary in
a timely fashion.

Now if Al actually wants a large greyish brown African antelope.  I would
be happy to chip in a few bucks

Thomas G. Hess

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:39:52 -0700
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If anybody wants to see some reviews, I've recently added Super Software
Carousel, the Collins Electronic Dictionary and Thesaurus, and the Collins
Multilingual Dictionary to the list of products reviewed.

Up soon will be Derive 4.0 for DOS.

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:40:40 -0700
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Oops... forgot to mention that the reviews can be accessed directly at
http://www.hplx.net/review.html .

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> Does this unit work with GPS programs for 200LX? Someone offered it to

If it has a serial port on its rear, it probably splits out the data
that the gps programs are looking for but I don't know if that model has
a serial port????   I believe Garmin has a web page and they might list
specs for their older units?

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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:12:45 -0400
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From http://www.andover.net

Over 450 Pieces of DOS Freeware
- R Miller

DOS still has a place in many of our hearts. Indeed, there
is a significant minority out there that still uses it as a
primary operating system. And why not? If you're used to CLI
(command line interface) computing, DOS is fast, efficient,
and stable. And there is plenty of DOS software available if
you know where to look for it, like through the links you'll
find at this site.


Review continued: http://www.techsightings.com/cgi-bin/ts_review.pl?135


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Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:41:41 GMT
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In message  <199810140927.CAA04262@netcom2.netcom.com>, egwong@NETCOM.COM said:
>
> It also comes with a number of serial adapters (male->female,
> male->male, 9-pin->25-pin) and an attractive, black and purple
> box.  So unless you really need to CPACK software (which is
> handy for accessing *.?db files on your PC), it's not worth
> it.

I use CPACK to backup my 200LX to my desktop computer.  The
process is not particularly fast, but it is simple.  Once
started it runs unattended.

Ted


--
Theodore Heise          West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:39:50 +0200
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Patrick West wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:
> > I run Quercus Systems "Personal Rexx" on my 200LX.
>
> Likewise, but what I like about the IBM PC DOS 7 is I don't need a tsr for
> it to work. IBM PC DOS 7 sees it is rexx and call the rexx program.

A bit like the hashbang operator (#!) on UNIX systems, eh?

It is a sorely missed feature under DOS (for me at least) and I have to
resort to batch files or use a different command interpreter like 4DOS
(which has a similar feature).


Regards,

Laust

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"Plenty of DOS software available if you know where
 to look for it, like through the links you'll find at this site."

http://www.techsightings.com/cgi-bin/ts_review.pl?135

There are a couple files there for those looking to calc
sunrise/sunset times designed for yetchmen.

Red sky at night, sailors delight................
Good sailing.
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I'll take it if not sold.
Tony Guzewicz

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> That is Kudos for Al and brickbats for my failure to use the dictionary =
in
> a timely fashion.
>
> Now if Al actually wants a large greyish brown African antelope.  I =
would
> be happy to chip in a few bucks
>
> Thomas G. Hess
>
Well, I for one would go for an animal sacrifice/feast in Al's honor
;¬)

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Al - I remember seeing a press release from HP about their portable
scanner/photocopier that can hold up to 50 pages in memory. The
suggested price was about $20/page for the first 50 pages. You may want
to look in their web site.

Mikhail

> Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist -- along with DOS drivers
> and OCR?
>
> I've often thought it would be neat to be able to handscan magazines, books,
> etc. when taking long flights....downloading to the HP later.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Al McKinney
> salmck@aol.com

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On the other hand, I've downloaded quite a bit of stuff from there,
with the same setup, with different modems too.

Mikhail


> >
> > Problem receiving data
> > Connection closed by remote host
>
> I figured it was just me, as I have a feeling that WWW/LX doesn't like my
> SLIRP-based PPP connection.  Just sits there at 0 bytes until I wait forever
> or hit CTRL.  Hadn't tried it on any other wites.
>

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This might be of help to those folks trying to sync the HP with Outlook.
Microsoft has released a free flat-file importer:
http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/downloadDetails/field98.htm

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ExmBatch provides a mechanism for running a DOS command from an EXM
program. This will let you assign any DOS command an icon and hotkey
in Application Manager.  It also has built-in support for Software
Carousel.

I have uploaded version 1.5 of ExmBatch to:

        http://rwhitby.home.ml.org/exmbatch.html

It's also available via the S.U.P.E.R. page (which links to the same URL).

Here's the change history:

Version 1.5 - October 1998 (Adelaide, Australia)
------------------------------------------------

Modified the set of substitution sequences to support changing
disks and directories in the middle of a command.
Also updated my email and web site contact details.

Version 1.4 - March 1998 (Adelaide, Australia)
----------------------------------------------
Finally got my hands on the HP200LX developer's guide, and
updated ExmBatch to do things "properly".
Enhanced the "normal" DOS execution code to switch between
default memory size or all remaining memory, pause or no pause
before return, and allowing or inhibiting task switching.
Still can't work out how to set the actual amount of memory
used on a case by case basis (setting the relevant field in
the event structure to anything other than 0 or 0xffff seems
to always crash the palmtop).

Version 1.3 - June 1997 (Austin, Texas)
---------------------------------------
Improved the filename substitution functionality to support
%d, %p, %t, %n, %e and %f substitutions, and added a whole new
section to the documentation to explain them all.  I did this
because I wanted to just pass a directory name to a program,
even when a file in the directory is selected.

Version 1.2 - June 1997 (Austin, Texas)
---------------------------------------
Incorporated the dos execution code from DosLine to ensure
that the correct zoom level is selected when not using
Software Carousel.
Added filename access code from DosLine to do filename
substitution in the command string..

Version 1.1 - June 1997 (Austin, Texas)
---------------------------------------
Public release - submitted to www.palmtop.net and added to my
Web page.

Version 1.0 - June 1997 (Austin, Texas)
---------------------------------------
Original version - released for beta testing.

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Check out http://www.capshare.hp.com
It looks very cool, but I don't know if it will interface
to the 200LX.

Good Luck
Ken
*Not an official HP response.*

>Date:    Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:42:17 EDT
>From:    Al McKinney 
>Subject: Portable Scanners Exist?
>
>Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist -- along with DOS >drivers
>and OCR?
>
>I've often thought it would be neat to be able to handscan magazines, >books,
>etc. when taking long flights....downloading to the HP later.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Al McKinney
>salmck@aol.com

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My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.
Also, the display to the right of these missing lines tends to flicker.
This problem can be alleviated by twisting the display, but the cure is
only temporary.
Any suggestions for a simple fix, or is it terminal?

Jefcom.

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>Jorgen;
>What's this?
>Yor lil batt/clk pgm shows the charge status
>of the 3V too?   I didn't know that.  Hmmmm.

No, I didn't find it worth it; but the BAT.COM which should be in the
CHARGE package does. Nice for autoexec.bat.


>This is it, I, T, IT.  Jorgen Dydbahl has a set of charging
>routines called charge.zip.  He has a trickle charging
>program, though at 40 mA instead of 45 mA.  and it is
>on S.U.P.E.R.  The name I don't got.

Ah, that must be my failing memory. I meant 45 mA. Sorry.
I cannot change the hardware.

Jorgen

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> I read at www.dasoft.com that WWW/LX is able to connect to internet via
> a computer that is using PPP/SLIP using the "direct" connection.
>
> Does that mean that You can connect Your hp200lx to the serial port on =
a P
> that is "on" the Internet, and thereby downloading Your email and news
> with post/lx.
> I read that it had been done with Linux.
> If one (against his/her will) is using Window$ 95/NT4, is it possible
> to do the above?
>
> How is it done? Any ideas or experiences?
>
>        /tomas moberg                         Uppsala
>
The computer that you hook up to has to act as a server. That problem
really is the speed of the serial port on the lx, which is not as fast as
using a modem. I haven't done any of this tho, not having any server =
stuff.
Hopefully someone else can give you a more practical response.

Darren.

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At 01:29 15/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.
>Also, the display to the right of these missing lines tends to flicker.
>This problem can be alleviated by twisting the display, but the cure is
>only temporary.
>Any suggestions for a simple fix, or is it terminal?

It is very likely to be caused by a bad contact between the rubber strip
between the LCD circuit board and the crystal. The only solution seems to
open the screen case, disassemble the LCD, clean the rubber
strip/PCB/crystal contacts and assemble it again, but this is quite
difficult, tricky and dangerous.

Perhaps there's an intermediate solution: when you twist the screen, the
line appears again because you're aplying pressure where the bad contact
is. If you disassemble the screen case (but NOT the display itself), you'll
see that the display has a metal frame which holds the crystal/rubber
strips/circuit board all together. This frame has some bended metal springs
in the back. If you bend harder the one that is closer to where your
missing line is, there's a chance that the extra pressure will fix the
problem.

Regards. Nacho.

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Parque Tecnologico de Valencia
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Note that this is for Outlook 98.   As far as I can see Outlook 97
already has this feature.  Odd eh ?

William D.Ll.Brown

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Canon have a printer witch accept a scaner head.
I think this is a BJ80???
But no dos drivers.
regards
Alain
> Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist -- along with DOS
drivers
> and OCR?
>
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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>My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.


In most cases that mean one of the pins on one of the display chips has a bad
solder connection.  The rubber zebra strips connecting the screen to the driver
board is not usually the caused.  We usually fix them by resoldering the display
chips back down.

Cheers,
Mack

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I just had this happen to me.  The fix was to replace the cable from the
main board to the display.  The only problem is that they are not easy
to come by.  I got luck and someone had one.
Good luck.

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My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.
Also, the display to the right of these missing lines tends to flicker.
This problem can be alleviated by twisting the display, but the cure is
only temporary.
Any suggestions for a simple fix, or is it terminal?

Jefcom.

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>I just had this happen to me.  The fix was to replace the cable from the
>main board to the display.  The only problem is that they are not easy
>to come by.  I got luck and someone had one.

That usually only works if the screen totally goes out or has massive problems
with missing or totally black lines.  The cable is easy to test for as the
screen would clear up by opening and closing the palmtop or by squeezing the
lefthand hinge area. If you have only a few vertical lines then the cable is not
usually the cause.

Cheers,
Mack

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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Mack Baggette wrote:

> In most cases that mean one of the pins on one of the display chips
> has a bad solder connection.  The rubber zebra strips connecting the
> screen to the driver board is not usually the caused.  We usually fix
> them by resoldering the display chips back down.

What I want to know is, what sort of stress causes the pins on the chips
to pop up?  I can (just barely) see how the normal stresses on the hinge
could cause the zebra stips to misalign, but what on earth can be done to
prevent the chip leads from detaching?

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>What I want to know is, what sort of stress causes the pins on the chips
>to pop up?  I can (just barely) see how the normal stresses on the hinge
>could cause the zebra stips to misalign, but what on earth can be done to
>prevent the chip leads from detaching?

I don't really know what could be done, but I do know that with the naked eye I
cannot usually tell which pin has a bad connection.  They aren't actually popped
up unfortunately as that would be easier to spot and fix.

Cheers,
Mack

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HP has a product scheduled out in Nov or Dec which should do exactly
what you describe. I'll see if I can dig up the URL...

Al McKinney wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist -- along with DOS drivers
> and OCR?
>
> I've often thought it would be neat to be able to handscan magazines, books,
> etc. when taking long flights....downloading to the HP later.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Al McKinney
> salmck@aol.com

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I found the URL for the HP `CapShare':
http://www.capshare.hp.com

>
> Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist
>

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Morning all;
>What I want to know is, what sort of stress causes the pins on the chips
>to pop up?  I can (just barely) see how the normal stresses on the hinge
>could cause the zebra stips to misalign, but what on earth can be done
to
>prevent the chip leads from detaching?

My 3 cents: Perchance abuse, like when its on a hip pouch and yer
sit in a slouch, it tends ta  "bend"  the case.  The tendency is to
think its a strong case and it ain't gonna bend but it may, ever so
slightly (certainly on the hinges) and over time, voila, it's loose and
moves.  This minor reciprocating movement don't sound good fer
(early micro) kracks neither.

ergo: "with the naked eye I cannot usually tell which pin has
a bad connection.  They aren't actually popped up "  I doubt
this happened at the factory since its woiked fer years.

Personally, I'm aware of "feel" (as people who carry a weapon wood
understand) and the position of my piece when moving to different
positions and shift it so it so it takes less stresss.  I offten see that

there are people that don't care (about their appliances (cell phones
etc)) and slam dunk it anyplace (and wonder why der thing don't woik
no more.  Ceases never wonder. A case of good Marine Corps training.
I guess dat wuz four cents, bill me :)

BTW: It wood be inneresting to take a survey of girls and their LXs
and see what the incidence and types of problems is, since they
don't usually carry their LXs in a hip pouch.  :)  This of corse would
not be to indicative cause they ain't enough girls, wish dare wuz tho.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Subject:      The 32 MB 200LX (long)

Well I finally did it!! I managed to ungrade to the 32 megabyte
doublespeed 200LX and it is absolutely great!!! Downgrade to CE--
not me! If you have the money--the upgrade is well worth it.
Everything can go on the C drive and if you are like me--just
using a few programs--you'll have plenty of room for data storage.
The doublespeed is much faster--I've noticed a signifigant
reduction in data processing times. Battery life is good. Using
1300 NiMH batteries I easily go for a full day even under heavy
usage and and the battery loss is easily recouped with an
overnight charge. I bought the unit from Thaddeus and can very
highly recommend them. The service was superb. Order tracking was
right on schedual and they handled my order in a very competent
professional fashion. I am also using the one outlet AC adapter
from Thaddeus. It is 12 volt .8 amp and only gets the 200LX
slightly warm during charging. I was using the Radio Shack 12 volt
1 amp and after using it for 6 months I found it did not stay well
regulated--the voltage had risen to 14 volts--and it was causing
my 200LX to overheat. My suggestion for you if you find your unit
gets --hot-- during charging is to check that voltage. It is too
high. The manual recommends 14-9 volts but I would say 12-9 volts
is right. I also installed Software Carousel and am find it very
handy. It enables task switching of Dos programs like System
Manger programs. It task switches very well and enables running
large memory hungry programs just like a System Manager program.
Thanks HP for the 200LX (even though you aren't developing it any
more- that's a mistake), thanks Mack for the doublespeed and
memory upgrades--you did a heck of a job, and thanks Thaddeus--
glad you keep supporting the 200LX at a reasonable price. Long
live the 200LX and happy 200LXing!!! Its a heck of a tool!

-John

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On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, T. G. Hess wrote:

> That is Kudos for Al and brickbats for my failure to use the dictionary =
in
> a timely fashion.
>
> Now if Al actually wants a large greyish brown African antelope.  I =
would
> be happy to chip in a few bucks

     Now if prepared properly, I bet it would be quite tastey! Perhaps
I should hold out for the "kudu" ;-)

Cheers

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:36:36 -0700
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does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to the
bottom of the lx?

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:11:31 -0400
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It's unlikely that this will work on a 200LX.

1) The documents are stored in the .PDF format and the only DOS reader from
Adobe is Acrobat Reader for DOS version 1.0

There will not be an upgrade to this DOS product. It cannot read documents
in version 3.0 and higher unless they are stored as ver 2.1 compatible.

2) The documents are stored in the Capstore document directory and the
software required is not likely to be available in a DOS form.

3) We can hope !!!!!!




Thanks,

Paul Anderson
President
Systems Consulting
Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
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;-)

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I found the URL for the HP `CapShare':
http://www.capshare.hp.com

>
> Does anyone know if battery-powered scanners exist
>

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:19:57 -0400
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Hi All:

     Has anyone else tried the PreOnline entry in POST.CFG with LXCIC?

According to the Tips-N-Tricks on the D&A site:

> Use PreOnline=3D and PostOnline=3D to run special processes
>
> Example: You can use LXCIC by S. Peichl to enable the modem prior
> to going online...
>
>      PreOnline=3DLXCIC > NUL
> ...
>
> Insert these statements into the POST.CFG file...
>

If I place

     PreOnline=3Dc:\bin\lxcic.com > NUL

in POST.CFG, it doesn't seem to work; but if I run a one line batch file
that executes LXCIC, it does work. Can any confirm this?

Cheers,


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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:27:47 +0800
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What it actually comes with are a series of adapters, for use as 9-25pin
converter, printer converter (serial), modem converter (I think), that
is quite completely useful.  Also with the software, you can synchronise
your *.*db files between your PC and LX.  You can also use the PC with
the same user interface as the LX.  All these are quite useful if you
are a hardcore LX user, and do not mind the DOS like interface instead
of those beautiful Windows type.  Otherwise you are right that Transfile
is more convenient.


Brian Sugita wrote:
>
> Hi I was wondering.  What all is included in the HP200LX
> connectivity kit?  Is it worth the $75-$100 I see it for?  I
> noticed I can get the serial cable for about $25 and I have
> the Transfile WIN 200 software already.  Thanks!
>
> Brian Sugita

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On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:11:31PM -0400, Systems Consulting wrote:
> It's unlikely that this will work on a 200LX.
>
> 1) The documents are stored in the .PDF format and the only DOS reader from
> Adobe is Acrobat Reader for DOS version 1.0
>
> There will not be an upgrade to this DOS product. It cannot read documents
> in version 3.0 and higher unless they are stored as ver 2.1 compatible.

FWIW, there is a little unix program I've recently come across (pdftotext)
that strips the text from any pdf file.  I haven't had a chance to look
over it, but it should be releatively easy to port to dos.  if the device
is actually OCRing the page and saving it as a PDF, then this would work
for quick text importing et al.

> 3) We can hope !!!!!!

oh, we can do more than that ;¨

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:24:26 GMT
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Subject:      Is the 200LX dead--no way!!!

The title says it all. Who needs a pocketable powerful dos
computer? Why many, many, many, MANY people!!! I wouldn't give up
my 200LX for 5 nay 10 times what I paid for it. How can a simple
little machine indue such loyalty? Why not switch to CE or some
other product? Aren't they the latest in technology and there-fore
superior? Don't they run a Windows based operating system which
makes them easier to use? Then reality steps in! The 200LX is
simply universal. Ease of use, customably, availibilty of add-ons,
programs, programming languages. Battery life, convienence, and
the most important in my book when it comes to gadgets--the damn
thing is just fun to use. Just looking at it gives me a little
tingle. It is pleasure to have my little toy do everything under
the sun. It wakes me up in the morning with HP Alarm.
Automatically downloads stock charts with StockChart. Dials phone
numbers with Dialer. Does my math, teaches me programming skills,
serves as a reference library, etc, etc, etc, ETC! It doesn't get
old--there is always a new program to try--a new task for it to
do. It doesn't get stale--my pentium sits in a box it got so
boring. It is really cool to stick my entire computing source in a
4 by 6 inch case and take it with me when I go. Well HP doesn't
want it--I'll take it--anybody wanna go halfs and buy it from HP?


-John

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:48:24 -0400
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I imagine that you could make your own with some thin sheet metal, some
glue and some black paint. You could also try local stationary stores
that sell name plates. They may be able to provide a perfectly sized,
professionally engraved plate. I think that the are kits available from
HP with new IR cover, battery cover, rubber feet and nameplate.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. Ýmailto:Wachtel@CSHS.ORG¨
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 12:37 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
>
> does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to the
> bottom of the lx?
>

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:40:25 GMT
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Subject:      The Palmtop News Reader (otherwise known as PNR or LXTCP)

I have been using PNR now for some months. I was first introduced
to it when I was on the well-known 200LX software site S.U.P.E.R.
(www.palmtop.net) looking for an email program for my 200LX. It
was interesting because it was system manager complient--which was
a plus since I hadn't heard of Software Carousel yet--which means
it task swaps along with the other SMC programs, and also freeware
by Michal J. Leaver. This is important because you can be using a
dos program yet if you need to write an email you can just switch
to it without closing the dos program. I downloaded it and tried
it out on my 200LX and it looked and worked great--just like a
SysMan program, and easy to install. Well this PNR used a Unix
mail system--which I had but was not too familiar with--and which
I found out--is a bear to set up. Basically, to make a long story
short, I never did get it set up, I shelved it and bought Post/LX
by D&A Software (www.dasoft.com). I needed an email program
now!!!:) A few months later I heard on the HPLX list Rod Whitby
had taken over PNR and converted it to POP. He was calling it
LXPPP and it was still freeware. I wanted that SMC so I downloaded
it again and checked it out. The PNR interface was the same--Rod
had added a standard dos ppp packet system and a program for
downloading mail from from the pop server. Well again to make a
long story short, this was much easier to set up since I was
already familiar with pop, in a few short hours I had it running.
The pop system worked like a charm and immeadiatly I was
downloading my email. I used it for a period of time and was very
pleased and when Rod upgraded it to nntp for news retrievals and
changed the name to LXTCP, I downloaded and tried out the new
stuff. It was great and all freeware. If you are looking for a
freeware SMC freeware mail and news offline reader that works well
and has great support (I had found a bug--Rod Whitby treated me
like I had paid big bucks for the program--helped me diagnose it
and had it fixed the next day!!! How's that for freeware service:)
Would Microshifty do that?) check out LXTCP. Its well supported,
SMC and all free!!! Its at:
http://members.xoom.com/rwhitby/lxtcp.html

-John

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Thanks, Jim, for the kind words. Believe me -- it is a two way street.
As long as we have customers and can make a reasonable profit, we'll be
in the 200LX business.  (It means I get the latest and greatest for my
200LX at a deep discount).

- Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:53:44 -0400
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Their web site has gone to the bit bucket and they longer advertise on
SUPER... Anybody got their number? I ordered a 40MB card from them and
want to check the status on the order.

Thanks

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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Ed Padin wrote:

> Their web site has gone to the bit bucket and they longer advertise on
> SUPER... Anybody got their number? I ordered a 40MB card from them and
> want to check the status on the order.

I just received word that they were closed down while the owner moves.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:54:26 -0500
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Send me yor address and I'll send yu mine.
As a better alternative:  Try one of the places where
they make name plates for mail boxes or even
cheeper, do it yorself wit a labelmaker.
Yu kan even have colors.  Yu will hafta cut it to
size but its more nifty.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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John - I though that WWW/lx has a news reader as well. I don't use
newsgroups, but I'm sure this function is incorporated in WWWLX suite.

Mikhail

> and had it fixed the next day!!! How's that for freeware service:)
> Would Microshifty do that?) check out LXTCP. Its well supported,
> SMC and all free!!! Its at:
> http://members.xoom.com/rwhitby/lxtcp.html
>
> -John

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:21:19 -0400
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I acquired a Compaq C120+ PC Companion a few days ago, mostly because the
price was right and I wanted to check out the CE units.  Well, I can tell
you that in my opinion the HP200lx is light years ahead of the CE unit.  I
even went so far as to order the WinCE 2.0 upgrade from Compaq which also
increased the RAM to 4mb.  WinCE 2.0 made it a slightly nicer machine, but
still no comparison to the HP200lx!!  The only thing it does well is sync up
with my desktop applications.  Just because it is a Windoz based unit does
not mean that it will run Windoz applications.  Any normal Windoz
applications I have tried to install fail with a "Not a Windows CE
Application" message.  The user interface is cumbersome and slow compared to
the HP200lx, even though we have to do everything with key combinations, we
can access applications faster and easier on the HP200 than you can on the
WinCe units.  I can't say much for the WinCE battery life yet, but I do get
about 6 weeks on a set in my HP200.

On a daily basis I use at least two different phone books on my box stock
2mb HP200, the NoteTaker, Memo maker, Goin' Postal, VR and 123.  The Compaq
is bigger, heavier, slower, less friendly and has shorter battery life
(based on manufacturers specifications, 40 hours for the HP and 20 hours for
the Compaq).  At this point, I feel like the so call technology advance
provided by WinCE is a giant step backwards for the hand held / palmtop
world!

I know what I am goin' to ask for for Christmas, and it ain't goin' to be a
WinCE machine!  I am going to upgrade my HP200 to 32mb and double speed.
There are just too many features missing from the WinCE machines to justify
the purchase price in my book.  I suppose it is a nice concept but I think
it missed the boat in a big way.  If I wanted to carry around something that
weighed over a pound, had limited battery life and cost over $1000.00 then I
think I would have to purchase a sub notebook.  I have a 7 pound laptop with
docking station that I use as a desktop workstation at my job, and I don't
carry it to meetings.  I like being able to shove my HP200 in my pocket, go
to a meeting and use it for taking notes without the hassle of short battery
life or space required on the table.

Maybe our friends at HP will decide to bring out a new version of the 200lx
someday, maybe with DR Dos or some other DOS compatible operating system.  I
like my 200lx and I certainly wouldn't give it up for an WinCE based unit.
Flame me if you want to, but these WinCE machines ain't what they are
cracked up to be.

John Guenther

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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> John - I though that WWW/lx has a news reader as well. I don't use
> newsgroups, but I'm sure this function is incorporated in WWWLX suite.

Yes, WWW/LX includes News/LX, which can access an NNTP server and download
news articles.  Works quite well.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:40:11 +0100
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A question for the list - is Microsoft project for DOS available
anywhere and will it run on the 200LX? If so where can I get it,
approximate price? (I live in the UK).

I'm using Timeline 5.0 for DOS (a great if not somewhat "advanced"
project management programme) but it's not compatible with my office
desktop Project Manager, Microsoft Project for Windows. Well actually it
is via a conversion utility I got from MS's site but I could never get
the conversion to work properly! Thanks.........

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
North Wales, UK.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:54:15 +10
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MS project 4 for DOS is working fine on the LX.
regards
Alain
> A question for the list - is Microsoft project for DOS available
> anywhere and will it run on the 200LX? If so where can I get it,
> approximate price? (I live in the UK).


Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:52:09 GMT
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Subject:      386 emulator

Has anyone tried this 386 emulator? It was written for 286's so it
might need protected mode but then again maybe not:)
Its at:

ftp://ftp.agate.net/users/01935/tandy1000/utilities/em386133.zip

John

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:16:56 -0700
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It's funny you mention that.  I have a Bother P-Touch
label maker I used to make the nameplate on mine.
It fits in there perfectly, all you have to do is trim the
length a little, and it looks nice.

At 02:54 PM 10/15/98 -0500, al wrote:
>Send me yor address and I'll send yu mine.
>As a better alternative:  Try one of the places where
>they make name plates for mail boxes or even
>cheeper, do it yorself wit a labelmaker.
>Yu kan even have colors.  Yu will hafta cut it to
>size but its more nifty.

Brian Sugita
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:50:14 -0400
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Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:25:04 -0400 (EDT)

01h03m55s ago ...
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, John Guenther wrote:

> Flame me if you want to, but these WinCE machines ain't what they are
> cracked up to be.

Somehow, I don't think anyone on THIS list is gonna flame you for
bashing wince machines  8-)

-Peniel
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:38:06 -0700
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> > Flame me if you want to, but these WinCE machines ain't what they are
> > cracked up to be.

> Somehow, I don't think anyone on THIS list is gonna flame you for
> bashing wince machines  8-)

Not even those of us who work for Microsoft... :-)

(I bought a used HP 320LX, and I've since lost it somewhere in my house, and
I'm really upset... because I had a perfectly usable 40MB compact flash in
it... that I could use instead (with adapter) in one of my spare 200LXes...)

(Now that I think about it, I also have a perfectly good pair of NiMH
batteries in the 320LX as well. Damn!)

- Joe

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Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:

> does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to the
>
> bottom of the lx?...

My 2nd hand LX did not have a name plate.

Last week, while visiting my the store that my sister manage, I saw a
BROTHER label printer on a demo stand.  It was loaded with a black
plastic material label, and I made a very nice name plate that fits the
opening perfectly.  Another adorns my Thinkpad...

Groetnis / Regards,

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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> Not even those of us who work for Microsoft... :-)
> (I bought a used HP 320LX, and I've since lost it somewhere in my house, and
> I'm really upset... because I had a perfectly usable 40MB compact flash in
> it... that I could use instead (with adapter) in one of my spare 200LXes...)
> (Now that I think about it, I also have a perfectly good pair of NiMH
> batteries in the 320LX as well. Damn!)

Okay, how about for my next contest, we all go over to Joe's house and
search high and low for the lost 320LX?  

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:23:39 -0500
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"I know what I am goin' to ask for for Christmas,
and it ain't goin' to be a WinCE machine!  I am
going to upgrade my HP200 to 32mb and double
speed."

For $1000 bucks, try a reelly great machine.
A LX wit a heart stoping 64 (big) MB for
a reely great christmass..

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:52:45 -0700
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Hi all, I'm looking for an unterminated 200LX serial cable.
I saw them somewhere I thought, but can't remember
where and now I can't seem to find them anywhere except
on this one german site.  If you know where I might find
one, please let me know.  Thanks!

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"(I bought a used HP 320LX, and I've since lost it
somewhere in my house, and I'm really upset...
because I had a perfectly usable 40MB compact
flash in it... "  and a perfectly good pair of NiMH batts
too, Damn!

Yu must got a biiiggg HOUSE.

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I agree that .PDF isn't the most useful form for something on the
200Lx, but there are enough .PS -> text strippers around that should
make it at least feasible.

For actual reading, I think I'd prefer my Libretto screen to my 200Lx
anyway. I find it much easier on the eyes (so long as I don't have to
read in bright sunlight, that is).

In any event, the form factor on the CapShare looks very good to me,
and if it does work it sure could sure make some onorous tasks
a whole lot easier...

Systems Consulting wrote:
>
> It's unlikely that this will work on a 200LX.
>
> 1) The documents are stored in the .PDF format
>
But basic elements are pretty easily strippable into text.
>
> 2) The documents are stored in the Capstore document directory and the
> software required is not likely to be available in a DOS form.
>
I don't get what this means?
>
> 3) We can hope !!!!!!
>
>
Unless HP works hard and purposefully *against* us, I think we probably
can do more than hope...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson
>

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In message <19981015200752.DCB27587@attcanada.net>,
mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET said:
> John - I though that WWW/lx has a news reader as well. I don't use
> newsgroups, but I'm sure this function is incorporated in WWWLX suite.
>
> Mikhail
>
> > and had it fixed the next day!!! How's that for freeware service:)
> > Would Microshifty do that?) check out LXTCP. Its well supported,
> > SMC and all free!!! Its at:
> > http://members.xoom.com/rwhitby/lxtcp.html
> >
> > -John
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Subject:      Re: HP200lx vs. Compaq Windoze CE Companion

> with my desktop applications.  Just because it is a Windoz based unit does
> not mean that it will run Windoz applications.  Any normal Windoz

This is one really nice feature about the 200LX. You can run the
exact same applications on the desktop as you do on the 200LX. No
need for conversions.

> the Compaq).  At this point, I feel like the so call technology advance
> provided by WinCE is a giant step backwards for the hand held / palmtop
> world!

I don't think Microdoze paid any attention to what people wanted
or needed when they jumped feet first, eyes closed into the
handheld market. They just see it as another place to sell
Winslow.

> Maybe our friends at HP will decide to bring out a new version of the 200lx
> someday, maybe with DR Dos or some other DOS compatible operating system.  I

Dr DOS would be great. It has a multi-tasking kernal.

> like my 200lx and I certainly wouldn't give it up for an WinCE
based unit.
> Flame me if you want to, but these WinCE machines ain't what they are
> cracked up to be.

No flames here:)

-John

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Mikhail

Sure it does. WWW/LX does mail, news, web browsing, ftp, telnet.
Plus you can automatically download info off the web with get and
robot. I don't think I've missed anything.

-John

In message <19981015200752.DCB27587@attcanada.net>,
mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET said:
> John - I though that WWW/lx has a news reader as well. I don't use
> newsgroups, but I'm sure this function is incorporated in WWWLX suite.
>
> Mikhail
>
> > and had it fixed the next day!!! How's that for freeware service:)
> > Would Microshifty do that?) check out LXTCP. Its well supported,
> > SMC and all free!!! Its at:
> > http://members.xoom.com/rwhitby/lxtcp.html
> >
> > -John
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Al,
I had not checked my HPLX-L mail for awhile (since the 4th), so I had
not seen this and might yet find the sold notice but wonder IF you still
have it and IF you might be interested in a completely outfitted 200LX 5
meg w/20 MB card etc.?????
Thanks,
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:38:16 +1000
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Hi all

Is anyone wanting to sell their beloved 200LX.  A friend wants one and I
said I'd ask..

Please email me off list if you have one or where else I might look.

BTW If in the USA My wife will be in SF and Philadelphia in the next 2 weeks
if US shipping is preferable.

Thx

Russell

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Ooops! A pox on me for a dolt. Sorry list members for wasting your
bandwidth.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:49:24 -0700
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For those of you who are in the San Francisco Bay Area:

The San Francisco Palmtop User Group  have two meetings
scheduled this month. The first is scheduled to be held in
Pleasanton on this Saturday, October 17. This is a Saturday
morning meeting at 8am at the Buttercup Pantry Restaurant on
Hopyard just south of the 580 freeway in Pleasanton. More
specific directions will be posted on the web site at
www.ccnet.com/~cdcox/nextmeet.htm.

PLEASE let me know if you plan to attend. I am not making
special arrangements for a special room with the restaurant,
so we will be seated wherever they can sit us. This is a no
host affair.

Our second meeting is tentatively scheduled for next week in
Berkeley. More information will be posted to our website as
it becomes available.

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:45:01 +0930
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Subject:      Re: The Palmtop News Reader (otherwise known as PNR or LXTCP)
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Jm Musielewicz  writes:
> If you are looking for a freeware SMC freeware mail and news offline
> reader that works well and has great support (I had found a bug--Rod
> Whitby treated me like I had paid big bucks for the program--helped
> me diagnose it and had it fixed the next day!!! How's that for
> freeware service:) Would Microshifty do that?) check out LXTCP. Its
> well supported, SMC and all free!!! Its at:
> http://members.xoom.com/rwhitby/lxtcp.html

You're gonna make me blush! Just some additional notes:

1/ PNR is the news reader, and will read lots of different mail
   formats (including those most commonly used on Unix).

2/ LXTCP contains the POP/NNTP/FTP, etc. part of it.

3/ The "official" url is "http://rwhitby.home.ml.org/".

4/ If you want to pay for a commercially supported mail and news
   reader and also want to surf the web on your HP200LX, then I would
   recommend you buy POST/LX or GP.  They are both great programs, and
   the only reason I don't use them is that I'm a software developer
   so I try to have the source code to all the programs that I use (so
   that I can customize them to my individual needs).

5/ If you want to get something for free, and also get the source code
   to the program you are using, and you don't need fancy installation
   help (i.e. you know the difference between an IP address and a
   FQDN), then LXTCP & PNR may be for you.

6/ The way that I support my programs is basically selfish.  I depend
   upon LXTCP & PNR when I'm travelling around the world, so I'd
   rather fix any bugs before I leave home :-)  ÝAlthough I did once
   receive a bug report in Denver airport, fixed it, recompiled, and
   used the new version to send the update back to the person who
   reported the bug, all on batteries, all while still on-line at
   14.4k, all without dropping the TCP/IP connection.  Try doing that
   with any of the other connectivity solutions  :-)¨

Note that the latest version of PNR is in beta test on my home page.
A new version of LXTCP to match it should go into beta sometime later
this month.

The long term plan for PNR (don't hold your breath) is for it to be
able to auto-sync with Unix mail folders via a TCP/IP link (either PPP
or direct ethernet).  PNR version 3.0 shares the same folder format as
Unix MMDF format (as used my MH and Emacs VM), so the first step is
done :-)

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:32:58 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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I think it's on Jeff John's site, and it does run on the LX.  I used it on
the LX for about a year.  The only bad thing about using it is that the
file conversion routine for use with the latest Windows version is only one
way.


hth,

Claud

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:14:37 -0500
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Subject:      Neoprene Case

Some time back someone posted a message about a neoprene type case, somewhat
similar to the Newt Suit that I used to have on my MP130. Could someone
direct me to where I might be able to view a picture of one and where to buy
one. Is anyone on the list using such a case and if so, how do you like it?

73 Jeff


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What is "TRANSFILE WIN 200"?

Does it allow one to run the HP200 programs on a PC?

Where can I get it? SUPER?

Thanks

Bob


>Brian Sugita  wrote:
>
>
>Hi I was wondering.  What all is included in the HP200LX
>connectivity kit?  Is it worth the $75-$100 I see it for?  I
>noticed I can get the serial cable for about $25 and I have
>the Transfile WIN 200 software already.  Thanks!

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:40:36 -0400
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              Michael Stocker 
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Daytimers sells them.

I've been using mine for a couple of months and it works great.

Been doing a lot of work in the field.  Very protective and washes up easily by
hand.

Since they are less than $10, I suggest you buy 2.

The only complaints, they only come in black and do not have a belt loop.

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
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| From: Jeff Johns 
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Neoprene Case
| Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 8:14 PM
|
| Some time back someone posted a message about a neoprene type case, somewhat
| similar to the Newt Suit that I used to have on my MP130. Could someone
| direct me to where I might be able to view a picture of one and where to buy
| one. Is anyone on the list using such a case and if so, how do you like it?
|
| 73 Jeff
|
|
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:06:03 -0500
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              Jeff Johns 
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From:         Jeff Johns 
Subject:      Re: TRANSFILE WIN 200
Comments: To: bobv@SOS.NET

On 10-14 06:10pm, the following was written:

> What is "TRANSFILE WIN 200"?
>
> Does it allow one to run the HP200 programs on a PC?
>
> Where can I get it? SUPER?

Transfile allows you to transfer data back and forth between the LX and a PC
and also to backup and restore the LX to/from the pc. It's available
directly from HP on their web site.

73 Jeff


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              Alan Peres 
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Sorry but the unit has been sold.

I have noticed that some other members of this list tried the Palm, but
went back their HP's. There have been some units for sale recently posted.
Check the archives within the past 7-10 days.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 03:03:23 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Jm Musielewicz wrote:

> Has anyone tried this 386 emulator? It was written for 286's so it
> might need protected mode but then again maybe not:)
> Its at:
>
> ftp://ftp.agate.net/users/01935/tandy1000/utilities/em386133.zip

The link is actually:

ftp://ftp.agate.net/users/01935/tandy1000/utilities/em3134b1.zip

I think I tried it once.

If memory serves, it only emulates 386 instructions and only V86 mode
(that means no protected mode programs). AFAIK, it doesn't use 286
protected mode, so it might run on the LX, although I've never tried this.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:16:41 -0700
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Hi Bob,
Actually it is a program by HP for transfering files between
the HP200LX and a desktop PC running windoze 3.1 or
windoze 95.  It also has a built in editor.  Here is HP's
description of it...

HP 200LX Transfile 200 Backup. With Transfile WIN 200
you can quickly and easily backup your HP 200LX.
Hewlett-Packard is offering this easy to use and fast backup
and file transfer utility free of charge to all HP 200LX users.

You can find it that the following URL...

http://hpcc923.external.hp.com/cposupport/handheld_computers/software/tf103.
exe.html

Hope this helps!

Brian Sugita

At 04:10 PM 10/14/98 -0700, you wrote:
>What is "TRANSFILE WIN 200"?
>Does it allow one to run the HP200 programs on a PC?
>Where can I get it? SUPER?

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:15:50 -0500
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From:         al chin 
Subject:      Re: Neoprene Case

Jeff
There's at least three of 'em out there.
The one I got has a velcro loop so yu don't gotta
unbuckle yor belt ta get it on/off.  The problem with it is
yu kan loose it without knowing it if yu get distracted.
Another type has a clip much like a snub nose hoster,
which is more secure.  The third one has a loop where
ya gotta undo yer belt.  Take yor pick.
I don't think one vendor sells all (as described) if it comes
w/o loop and cheep enough, sew loop or clip on.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:21:41 -0700
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Subject:      Re: 386 emulator
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Dear Laust,

> If memory serves, it only emulates 386 instructions and only V86 mode
> (that means no protected mode programs). AFAIK, it doesn't use 286
> protected mode, so it might run on the LX, although I've never tried this.

At first I was confused by your message because I thought V86 mode acted
exactly like an 8086. But upon reading
http://www7.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~msdoerfe/embedded/386html/c15.htm
(Virtual 8086 mode, in the 80386 Programmer's Reference Manual), I see I was
wrong:

15.1.1 Registers and Instructions

The register set available in V86 mode includes all the registers defined
for the 8086 plus the new registers introduced by the 80386: FS, GS, debug
registers, control registers, and test registers. New instructions that
explicitly operate on the segment registers FS and GS are available, and the
new segment-override prefixes can be used to cause instructions to utilize
FS and GS for address calculations. Instructions can utilize 32-bit operands
through the use of the operand size prefix.

8086 programs running as V86 tasks are able to take advantage of the new
applications-oriented instructions added to the architecture by the
introduction of the 80186/80188, 80286 and 80386:

New instructions introduced by 80186/80188 and 80286.
PUSH immediate data
Push all and pop all (PUSHA and POPA)
Multiply immediate data
Shift and rotate by immediate count
String I/O
ENTER and LEAVE
BOUND
New instructions introduced by 80386.
LSS, LFS, LGS instructions
Long-displacement conditional jumps
Single-bit instructions
Bit scan
Double-shift instructions
Byte set on condition
Move with sign/zero extension
Generalized multiply

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Subject:      Re: 386 emulator
Comments: To: Jm Musielewicz 

> Has anyone tried this 386 emulator? It was written for 286's so it
> might need protected mode but then again maybe not:)

I downloaded it (using Laust's URL), and if the documentation is correct, it
will NOT run on an HP-LX.

IV. REQUIREMENTS.
=================

This program is specific to 286 based PCs, and will not install itself
if running on a 8086- or 386+ class PCs.

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:28:41 -0400
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On 10-15 01:20am, Someone said:


> Good Luck
> Ken
> *Not an official HP response.*

Ken,

Does HP have any official response regarding the
lx dos machines?

Can't you convince them to build a dos version of
the 660lx?

tia
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

Powered by HP200LX

Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:46:21 -0400
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From:         Nick Marsh 
Subject:      Re: HP200lx vs. Compaq Windoze CE Companion
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On 10-15 04:21pm, Someone said:

> Maybe our friends at HP will decide to bring out a new version of the 200l
> someday, maybe with DR Dos or some other DOS compatible operating system.

John,

Maybe we will get lucky and HP will bring out a dos version of the 660lx.

I have owned a Compaq C140, Cassiopeia a-11 and a 620lx. Of the 3, the 620
was the most productive, but the slow speed was really a let-down. Most
people assume that WinCE and Windows are compatible, but in reality they
only function alike, all the handheld software must be CE compatible. None
of the Windows native apps will work. So no a user is stuck with buying new
software that is not compatible with anything except another CE machine and
sometimes even then it must be CPU compatible.


We are truly thr lucky ones...
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Anyone out there have a Viking ATA Flash Card?
How does it compare to the Simple Tech cards?
I've narrowed down my search between either the
ST 32MB ATA Flash or this Viking 32MB ATA
Flash.  Any input ot help me decide would be
appreciated!  Thanks!

32-meg 5volt ATA FLASH PCMCIA Memory Card
Made by Viking Viking part number FL32M5VA

Brian Sugita
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Leo, try calling Hewlett-Packard parts ID phone number at 916-783-0804 to
get an orderable number for the palmtop name plate. Then you can order it
through HP Direct at 1-800-227-8164. You could also try calling HP Palmtop
support at 970-635-1000x3,4,5. They might be able to hook you up with the
palmtop product manager, who would more than likely just drop a plate in the
mail to you at no charge. If all else fails, there really is nothing special
about the plate. You could probably just go to a jeweler and have him make
you one.

Regards,

Gary

P.S. - I just left HP after 12 years of working there in sales. That is why
I have all these phone numbers at my fingertips.



-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Theron 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Bottom Nameplate


>Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:
>
>> does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to the
>>
>> bottom of the lx?...
>
>My 2nd hand LX did not have a name plate.
>
>Last week, while visiting my the store that my sister manage, I saw a
>BROTHER label printer on a demo stand.  It was loaded with a black
>plastic material label, and I made a very nice name plate that fits the
>opening perfectly.  Another adorns my Thinkpad...
>
>Groetnis / Regards,
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    __          ___ __
>   / /__ __    / _// /_  ___  _____  ___
>  / / -_)..\  / / / /_ \/ -_)/ _/..\/ _ \
> /_/\__/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__//_/ \__/_//_/ ( From Africa! )
>----------------------------------------------------------
>-- Leo Theron   -  leot@isdial.com // +27(0)82-570-4676 --
>==========================================================
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Leo, if you are really determined to get the real Mccoy, try calling =
Hewlett-Packard parts ID phone number at 916-783-0804 to get an =
orderable number for the palmtop name plate. Then you can order it =
through HP Direct at 1-800-227-8164. You could also try calling HP =
Palmtop support at 970-635-1000x3,4,5. They might be able to hook you up =
with the palmtop product manager, who would more than likely just drop a =
plate in the mail to you at no charge. If all else fails, there really =
is nothing special
about the plate. You could probably just go to a jeweler and have him =
make
you one. Or use one of the many other great suggestions provided by =
others.

Regards,

Gary

P.S. - I just left HP after 12 years of working there in sales. That is =
why
I have all these phone numbers at my fingertips.



-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Theron 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:44 PM
Subject: Re: Bottom Nameplate


>Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:
>
>> does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to =
the
>>
>> bottom of the lx?...
>
>My 2nd hand LX did not have a name plate.
>
>Last week, while visiting my the store that my sister manage, I saw a
>BROTHER label printer on a demo stand.  It was loaded with a black
>plastic material label, and I made a very nice name plate that fits the
>opening perfectly.  Another adorns my Thinkpad...
>
>Groetnis / Regards,
>
>    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>    __          ___ __
>   / /__ __    / _// /_  ___  _____  ___
>  / / -_)..\  / / / /_ \/ -_)/ _/..\/ _ \
> /_/\__/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__//_/ \__/_//_/ ( From Africa! )
>----------------------------------------------------------
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Regards,

Gary

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:59:24 +0800
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>>My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.
>In most cases that mean one of the pins on one of the display chips has a bad
>solder connection.  The rubber zebra strips connecting the screen to the driver
>board is not usually the caused.  We usually fix them by resoldering the
display
>chips back down.

I take it this means that the missing lines are all on the far left. Recently i
had variation on this theme ... there were missing pixel line every half
centimetre or so across the whole screen! It started first out of nowhere and
disappeared itself, also without intervention (I was just furiously scratching
my head, didn't know what to do...) and it became more persistent. Finally it
was only go away when i rapped the *bottom* of the palmtop sharply with a
knuckle. Chaikin kindly took the machine and got it checked, and since then, it
has mostly behaved itself. (Did it a couple of times more but went away again).

This I think is not a problem with the screen contacts that people talk about
cos bending the *screen* does nothing. Only knocking the body does. Maybe it is
to do with the driver board itself. Any ideas, anyone? Think it will come back
again ... it's just a matter of time ...

With fingers crossed,

jasonyap

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:03:59 -0700
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:52:45 -0700, Brian Sugita  =
wrote:

> Hi all, I'm looking for an unterminated 200LX serial cable.
> I saw them somewhere I thought, but can't remember
> where and now I can't seem to find them anywhere except
> on this one german site.  If you know where I might find
> one, please let me know.  Thanks!
>
Hi Brian and List

Check with:

Shier Systems & Software. Inc.
Phone: 805-371-9391
Fax:   805-371-9484
http://www.shier.com
To receive latest pricing sheet, email your requerst to:
pricing@shier.com


Regards,

Qman...

Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 02:28:45 +1300
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At the risk of sounding stupid, but how can one open the screen case?

I have the same problem with my HP200LX ie vertical blank lines (currently
3). Initially it disappeared with pressure over the lower part of the screen
however that is not working any more. I wanted to open the case thinking
that the problem could be solved by cleaning a few contacts however I could
not see any obvious way of opening it without causing damage.

I would appreciate it if someone could tell me how to go about it.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

________________________________
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Wellington, NZ
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|At 01:29 15/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
|>My 200LX developed the missing vertical lines syndrome.
|>Also, the display to the right of these missing lines tends to flicker.
|>This problem can be alleviated by twisting the display, but the cure is
|>only temporary.
|>Any suggestions for a simple fix, or is it terminal?
|
|It is very likely to be caused by a bad contact between the rubber strip
|between the LCD circuit board and the crystal. The only solution seems to
|open the screen case, disassemble the LCD, clean the rubber
|strip/PCB/crystal contacts and assemble it again, but this is quite
|difficult, tricky and dangerous.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:06:39 -0500
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>This I think is not a problem with the screen contacts that people talk about
>cos bending the *screen* does nothing. Only knocking the body does. Maybe it is
>to do with the driver board itself. Any ideas, anyone? Think it will come back
>again ... it's just a matter of time ...


Your problem sounds like the display cable, a pin on the display cable
connector, or a pin on the processor as any one of those can cause a pattern
problem.  Your problem doesn't sound like the screen itself as you already
figured out.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:28:22 GMT
Reply-To:     Jm Musielewicz 
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Subject:      Re: Viking ATA Flash

I use a Viking flash that's a little more than one year old. It is
a couple seconds slower reading and writing than the simple.
Simple=9 sec Viking=11 sec for the same size file. I think they
both use the same brand name controller. Both have the same
problem with the flash card driver neither will use the low power
modes although by using lxcic you can put them to sleep. Otherwise
they both just plug in and you can use them. You will notice a
battery life decrease if you use it, although whether its
signifigant will depend on how much you read and write to it.
Just make sure its a 5 volt card a lot of the new ones are 3.

-John


In message <3.0.5.32.19981015210641.007b5e10@popd.ix.netcom.com>,
kaervek@ix.netcom.com said:
> Anyone out there have a Viking ATA Flash Card?
> How does it compare to the Simple Tech cards?
> I've narrowed down my search between either the
> ST 32MB ATA Flash or this Viking 32MB ATA
> Flash.  Any input ot help me decide would be
> appreciated!  Thanks!
>
> 32-meg 5volt ATA FLASH PCMCIA Memory Card
> Made by Viking Viking part number FL32M5VA
>
> Brian Sugita
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Subject:      Re: Bottom Nameplate

Gary

Is there any way to contact HP directly to comment/complain about
a product? Not technical support but a feedback line. Thanks.

John


In message <009e01bdf8bd$5e4799a0$0b7bafce@c5o2g6>,
garyflash@TRITIUM.NET said:
> Leo, try calling Hewlett-Packard parts ID phone number at 916-783-0804 to
> get an orderable number for the palmtop name plate. Then you can order it
> through HP Direct at 1-800-227-8164. You could also try calling HP Palmtop
> support at 970-635-1000x3,4,5. They might be able to hook you up with the
> palmtop product manager, who would more than likely just drop a plate in the
> mail to you at no charge. If all else fails, there really is nothing special
> about the plate. You could probably just go to a jeweler and have him make
> you one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary
>
> P.S. - I just left HP after 12 years of working there in sales. That is why
> I have all these phone numbers at my fingertips.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Theron 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
> Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: Bottom Nameplate
>
>
> >Wachtel, Andrew, S., M.D. wrote:
> >
> >> does anyone know where i can get the metal plate that sticks on to the
> >>
> >> bottom of the lx?...
> >
> >My 2nd hand LX did not have a name plate.
> >
> >Last week, while visiting my the store that my sister manage, I saw a
> >BROTHER label printer on a demo stand.  It was loaded with a black
> >plastic material label, and I made a very nice name plate that fits the
> >opening perfectly.  Another adorns my Thinkpad...
> >
> >Groetnis / Regards,
> >
> >    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >    __          ___ __
> >   / /__ __    / _// /_  ___  _____  ___
> >  / / -_)..\  / / / /_ \/ -_)/ _/..\/ _ \
> > /_/\__/\__/ /_/ /_/ /_/\__//_/ \__/_//_/ ( From Africa! )
> >----------------------------------------------------------
> >-- Leo Theron   -  leot@isdial.com // +27(0)82-570-4676 --
> >==========================================================
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One thing to consider:
The max file transfer rate with Transfile is 56K, with the Connectivity
Pack it's 112K.  I don't know about 1X palmtops, but I can transfer
happily at 112K with my 2X 200LX using the CPack.  Of course, it's a moot
point for me since I actually transfer files by swapping my flash card
into my laptop.  That's definitely the best way to do things, if you have
a way to read flash cards on your big computer.

Cheers.
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Brian, not that I mean to confuse you further, but have you considered
compact flash? In the lower capacities, compact flash tends to outperform
Type II cards, costs less (based on cost/per mb) and offers you more
versatility since you can pop the card (w/a $6-$8 Type II adapter) into any
PCMCIA slot, as well as use it with most digital cameras. You may want to
check out the Sandisk 40mb Compact flash. I know you can acquire Sandisk
cards through Thaddeus Computing even though they don't advertise it yet.
Hal Goldstein can provide you with pricing. Sandisk may cost a little more
money than Simple, but they seem to provide better power consumption for
longer battery life and no initialization boot up delays.

Regards,

Gary

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Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Viking ATA Flash


>I use a Viking flash that's a little more than one year old. It is
>a couple seconds slower reading and writing than the simple.
>Simple=9 sec Viking=11 sec for the same size file. I think they
>both use the same brand name controller. Both have the same
>problem with the flash card driver neither will use the low power
>modes although by using lxcic you can put them to sleep. Otherwise
>they both just plug in and you can use them. You will notice a
>battery life decrease if you use it, although whether its
>signifigant will depend on how much you read and write to it.
>Just make sure its a 5 volt card a lot of the new ones are 3.
>
>-John
>
>
>In message <3.0.5.32.19981015210641.007b5e10@popd.ix.netcom.com>,
>kaervek@ix.netcom.com said:
>> Anyone out there have a Viking ATA Flash Card?
>> How does it compare to the Simple Tech cards?
>> I've narrowed down my search between either the
>> ST 32MB ATA Flash or this Viking 32MB ATA
>> Flash.  Any input ot help me decide would be
>> appreciated!  Thanks!
>>
>> 32-meg 5volt ATA FLASH PCMCIA Memory Card
>> Made by Viking Viking part number FL32M5VA
>>
>> Brian Sugita
>> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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>>
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:40:51 -0500
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Here's an update on battery life with my ST flash card.

I tried running my Simple Tech 40MB ATA flash card with LXCIC loaded
resident.  The card is now REALLY slow unless I hold the shift key down.
Even then, when working with large (>100K) database files, it is still
annoyingly slow.  However, for most other purposes, I don't hold the shift
key down, and it's not too bad.  I am not sure if it would be tolerable in
a 1X speed LX.  If I am getting impatient, I hold the shift key, and
things speed up quite a bit.  Sort of like a "turbo" button, except that
it never gets as fast as the card is when LXCIC is not loaded.

The big plus is that battery life is great!  Without LXCIC loaded (with
the card really fast), I got only about 5 hours with the Times2Tech
1300mAH NiMH batteries.  Now, I get 7-8 hours with plain old 600mA
NiCd batteries (pretty old ones at that)!  This is a 2X speed machine with
a 5MB upgrade, so I think that's pretty good.  I bet I could get around 20
hours with the T2T batteries now.

For me, I think that battery life is more important than speed, so I will
probably move my big database files over to the C: drive, and continue to
use my ST card with LXCIC loaded.  If you need a fast A: drive, however, I
think you will find the combination of the ST card and LXCIC painfully
slow.  For that situation, you should run the card without a driver and
just keep a spare set of batteries on you, or regularly recharge.

By the way, there have been a couple of updates to LXCIC recently.  The
above applies to version 1.0.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
grenert@mayo.edu

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:20:58 GMT
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> a 5MB upgrade, so I think that's pretty good.  I bet I could get around 20
> hours with the T2T batteries now.

If you do get 20 hours with the T2T let us all know immeadiately,
please. I'll switch to them right away! I'm using 1300 mAh NiMH
batteries in a 2X machine and getting about 14 hours. Of course I
don't use a flash card much so don't have a lot of excess current
drain.

-John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:24:05 GMT
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> Hal Goldstein can provide you with pricing. Sandisk may cost a little more
> money than Simple, but they seem to provide better power consumption for
> longer battery life and no initialization boot up delays.
 The flash driver was also written with Sundisk (before it became
Sandisk) in mind so the power management might works since it
works with Sundisk cards.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:30:28 +0200
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> > Has anyone tried this 386 emulator? It was written for 286's so it
> > might need protected mode but then again maybe not:)
>
> I downloaded it (using Laust's URL), and if the documentation is correct, it
> will NOT run on an HP-LX.
>
> IV. REQUIREMENTS.
> =================
>
> This program is specific to 286 based PCs, and will not install itself
> if running on a 8086- or 386+ class PCs.

Hmm. I just peeked at the exe file, and the error it returns when the
processor is not good enough is "PC/AT with 80186/80286 processor
required", which is why I thought it might run on the LX. I guess we won't
know until someone tries it on the LX...


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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:02:37 +0200
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I just checked, and it will _not_ work on the LX. So it does require a
286, as the manual states (but the program doesn't...).


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:44:48 -0400
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It's not ideal for backing up because files transferred from the palmtop
end up getting the time and date of the transfer stamped on them.

I manage my backups by using the 200LX's built-in LapLinkRemote and a
copy of Traveling Software's LapLink Remote Access (you can get this in
the HP Connectivity kit or as part of CommWorks for Windows) for linking
the drives on the 200LX with my Windows 95 PC and I use XtreeGold to
copy the entire structure of subdirectories and retain date/time and
attributes on all the files.

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:12:08 GMT
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Subject:      Re: 386 emulator

In message , di980769@DIKU.DK said:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:
>
> > > Has anyone tried this 386 emulator? It was written for 286's so it
> > > might need protected mode but then again maybe not:)
> >
> > I downloaded it (using Laust's URL), and if the documentation is correct, it
> > will NOT run on an HP-LX.
> >
> > IV. REQUIREMENTS.
> > =================
> >
> > This program is specific to 286 based PCs, and will not install itself
> > if running on a 8086- or 386+ class PCs.
>
> Hmm. I just peeked at the exe file, and the error it returns when the
> processor is not good enough is "PC/AT with 80186/80286 processor
> required", which is why I thought it might run on the LX. I guess we won't
> know until someone tries it on the LX...

Ah hah!! It will probably work then. If it does there's a version
of Arachne that will run on the 200LX then. I think its 1.20 beta
or something like that. If someone tries it before me can they
post? Thanks!


-John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:58:54 +0000
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After some testing, it turned out that I could not download
from S.U.P.E.R. with WWW/LX when I used my ISP METRONET.
Everything worked fine with my other ISP T-ONLINE (both
german). The ISP which did not work is PROXYed. As D&A says,
this might be the problem. My question:

Does anybody use a PROXYed ISP and is able to download from
S.U.P.E.R. with WWW/LX?

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I successfully use the PreOnline=lxcic setting in POST.CFG.
Be sure you have it in the ÝSystem¨ section of POST.CFG.
The new version of lxcic is much faster than the old one,
because I no longer need to reset the modem, which took
10 seconds.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:59:00 +0000
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Unfortunately a bug found it's way into LXCIC V1.2 (concerning
the /T switch). It is fixed in V1.3. I also changed a confusing
report about SocketServices. Download from:

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxcic.zip


LXPRO V2.1 now also allows you to monitor and configure COM2.
Use the {/} key to toggle between COM1 and COM2. You may change
the baud rate and the parity/framerate/stopbit independently
for COM1 and COM2.

NOTE: You can only access COM2 if it was previously enabled by
a utility like LXCIC or CIC100. Without having been enabled
before, the values for COM2 are arbitrary. Too bad that we
cannot switch power off for COM2 as we can for COM1.
Download from:

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxpro.zip

Both new versions are also available from S.U.P.E.R.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:56:53 -0700
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Hi Gary, Thanks for the information.  I checked out the Compact Flash
prices around and actually found them to be more expensive than the
standard ATA Flash cards in the 30MB-40MB range.  However I am
still considering a CF card now simply due to the fact that it sounds
as tho it is faster.  I contacted Hal, and hopefully he can provide a price
that beats the price I found for the Viking ATA Flash.  Price is an
important factor to me right now after having to shell out money for a
new HP200LX. :(  Thanks again for the information!!

Brian Sugita

At 10:05 AM 10/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Brian, not that I mean to confuse you further, but have you considered
>compact flash? In the lower capacities, compact flash tends to outperform
>Type II cards, costs less (based on cost/per mb) and offers you more
>versatility since you can pop the card (w/a $6-$8 Type II adapter) into any
>PCMCIA slot, as well as use it with most digital cameras. You may want to
>check out the Sandisk 40mb Compact flash. I know you can acquire Sandisk
>cards through Thaddeus Computing even though they don't advertise it yet.
>Hal Goldstein can provide you with pricing. Sandisk may cost a little more
>money than Simple, but they seem to provide better power consumption for
>longer battery life and no initialization boot up delays.

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Al McKinney
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:26:17 -0500
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You can try CN shopper for prices.  Don't know what
their thing is but if yu hunt ata flash on yahoo you'll
come up wit a lot of stuff.  A 40-48MB should be
under $200 smackeroos on a cleer day like today.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, Al McKinney wrote:

> Thanks one and all for the input (Ken, Alain, David, Paul, Tamas, and
> "Blah...Just Blah..).I'll check out Capshare/pdf to Dos readers and
> hopefully report back.
> Did we have handscanners before Windo$?  Can't remember - the brain IS the
> third thing to go :>

Well, if by "handscanner" you mean the kind that you held in your hand and
pass over the text instead of a flatbed, then yes.  I bought a Dexxa
handheld scanner that worked fine with DOS, and included its own DOS
graphics package and Catchword OCR from Logitech.  Of course, it wasn't
TWAIN compliant, which meant I could ONLY use it with its own packages.

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Hi there!

I am sending this e-mail in order to give you some idea's- especially
to you DOS program developers.

We have all heard that DOS is dead- for a long time! But my 200LX seams
to have a very nice life! :) Anyway, in some ways it's true if you look
at the applications people use when you walk in to an ordinary office of
today. The majority is using Windows on their desktop PC's and now we
can see that more and more people is using Win CE on their handheld
devices. Ok, PalmPilot has still has the biggest market share of all the
handheld devices. But as it now goes- that may not be so much longer!???

On this list we are all HP 95/100/200LX lovers and can't live without
our palmtop PC's- right? But I am sure that we will loose at least
20-30% of these users during the next 3-4 months! Why you probably ask?
The reason is very simple- the next version of Windows CE starts to be
a very decent product! Ok, MS will always have many 'hidden features",
but when you have features such as networking with mapping network
drives, network printing, IMAP4 e.t.c. It starts to be a useful
platform for many existing/potential users. As most of you probably
already knows- it always takes MS at least 3 versions to get things
right! Now we have to watch out for what's coming!!!

MS Windows CE will now most probably be able to handle e-mail
attachments in a more decent way. Office 97/98 attachments will
not be a problem anymore!

Why do I write this e-mail!? I write it as a wake-up call for you
users and developers. If you want to see your 100/200LX in use after
year 2000, we need more programs for our palmtop PC's!


Personally I can see that we need following applications for
HP 100/200LX in order to survive (some dreaming is allowed-
right?):

* 2-way Converter between: Lotus 1-2-3 & MS Excel (including graphics)

* A Converter that can covert between Word 95/97, Lotus AmiPro,
  WordPerfect e.t.c  to a ASCII, Memo, Word for DOS 5.5/6.0 and
  WordPerfect 5.1+ (many of us has it on the palmtop).

* More network support- such as for WWW/LX & Post/LX (best software
  available- I use it every day!).

* IrDA drivers for modem connection to phones such as Ericsson 888
  (supported by WWW/LX).

* HP 100/200LX driver for HP VGA OUT Card- with a 640x480 external
  display of PowerPoint files + being able to edit the slides.

* Good sync support between the palmtop and Outlook + other stuff
  which Win CE can handle.


If I am not wrong- all of these suggestions can be done! Of course
it's some hard work involved- but it can be done- right?

I think that with above mentioned suggestions- the HP 100/200LX
community should be in a rather good shape! But as we all know-
we are the most spoiled palmtop users in the world! HP 100/200LX
is running DOS programs and we have so many freeware programs
out there, so when somebody is asking for a small fee for their
program- we directly react!!! So in order to support our platform-
let's change style (at least for the above mentioned
programs :) ) and offer any potential programmer payment for their
hard work- commercial programs!

I say this because I am prepared to pay for the HP 100/200LX commercial
programs I suggested as follows:

(This is my way to tell potential developers out there that you can
make money here- payment for your hard and honest work!). I think that
HP 100/200LX users should not expect that all the software is for free!
Please look at the softwares which are offered to Win CE users- they have
more commercial & shareware than we have ever seen! Not much is for
free there!!!!

In US$, I would personally pay following amount for:

+ Lotus 1-2-3 & MS Excel converter- $35

+ Word processing converter-        $25

+ Network version of WWW/LX-        $30 (additional to original price).

+ IrDA Phone drivers-               $50 (special!)

+ HP VGA OUT Card Driver-           $40

* Good Sync Support-                $15
(I am using my 200LX as my primary PC- so I don't personally care so much
about sync. But I know it's very important for may users).

Developers, please keep in mind that this is the prices I would accept.
I can't talk for other users, so please wait for the feedback- if any...

As I said, this is what I would pay (if the solutions was available).
Now, it's up to you to give your message to potential developers out
there- is it worth to spend the time on the development or not........
Personally, I fully understand all the programmers out there- I worked
on my HP Alarm Clock for many months (with limited knowledge in
programming)- but I did it because I would like to learn. A programmer
which knows his work- I believe that he would like to see some result =
from
all the hours he puts in- such as an additional income, since it's his
job. Guys, please correct me if I am wrong!


Thanks for reading this message!


Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:40:39 -0700
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My editorial deals with a similar theme, at http://www.hplx.net .

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:36:01 -0400
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> Did we have handscanners before Windo$?  Can't remember - the brain IS the
> third thing to go :>

Logitech ScanMan. Ran in DOS. Strictly B&W. Seems to me I have one in a drawer
around here somewhere. Here it is! Complete with 5 1/4 floppy. Not TWAIN, of
course. Hooks to serial port.

There are lots of these around if you dig. I've had several people offer them to
me free.

-- Robin Miller
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David:

Do you know if they still exist, or if you still have yours, and you think it
might work with the HP200LX, would you be interested in selling it?  (My
present Logitech scanner plugs into a card, so I suspect this would be the
same with your scanner).

Thanks,

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Hi fellow 200lxers,

Some help if you would not mind. I've been downloading stuff from
S.U.P.E.R. but sometimes when I try to UNZIP a file it tells it's not a
ZIP file or there are more files required. I'm not sure where those
files are or what they are. The specifics -

1. Download of Multi Works for DOS says 1025k, when I actually finish
downloading the resulting file is mw_dos.zip and 466k and it won't
unzip - says the End of Central Directory Signature not found.
Not a zip file or it's only 1 disk of a multidisk archive...

2. I have similar results with ezproject, most of the EVA files.

I'm obvviously doing something wrong here. Thanks in advance for your
help.

Crombie Redd

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:54:50 -0700
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On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 SalMcK@aol.com wrote:

> Do you know if they still exist, or if you still have yours, and you
> think it might work with the HP200LX, would you be interested in
> selling it?  (My present Logitech scanner plugs into a card, so I
> suspect this would be the same with your scanner).

I haven't seen any like that in a long time-- as you suspect, it plugged
into a card, and I doubt you could fit that card in the 200LX.  :)  I
haven't seen any handheld scanners in a long time, but what might work
would be a handheld model that connects to a parallel port, and then use
the Transdigital card in the palmtop...

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I just read a press release about a modem from www.datarace.com that gets
its power entirely from the phone line. Unfortunately they don't sell
directly to the public, but rather through OEMs like IBM, NEC, TI, etc., so
you can't rush out and buy one just yet.

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I too have a (99% unused) Umax (Page Office IIc)
handheld scanner for sale. It woiks offa the parallel
port wit a printer pass through.  It do TWAIN too.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Jorgen
Nice tome.  We gotta do something, fer sure.
The first thing a newbie corp does on a takeover is to
renovate and improve its image.  in our case, to enhance
the sysaps engine.   If all most of us want is to do doss,
we could all get the LX1000 no?  So we all do use the
sysaps engine.  With all its queerks I'm surprised that
no one riles about it.  BTW: is it written in BAL or C?

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:20:29 EDT
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David:

My thoughts exactly - thanks for the quick response!  Guess I'll try to think
this one out a little more.

Al McKinney
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 06:48:27 +0800
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Hi Again!

When I wrote my original message, I was thinking more about software
than hardware. The reason for this is that I didn't mention
the hardware which Mack has made available for us! Then maybe many
of you out there, asks- how can Jorgen forget Mack's contribution?

My reply is simply- I have used Mack's memory & double speed upgrades
from the day it was available- so it's a part of me and my palmtop!!!
That's why I didn't mention it- I am so use to it. Today, I am using
a 64MB double speed palmtop- my best investment- ever!!! Without Mack's
speed and memory upgrades- Win Ce had passed us in performance long time
ago!

Thanks Mack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:38:47 GMT
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I've met:

palmpilot users- yep
those little electronic phonebook users-most popular!
HP200LX users-yep

Only place I've ever even talked to a CE user has been in the news
groups on the Internet, which is not a good indication of the
general populace--and I get around. Out of curiousity who buys the
things and uses them anyway? Computer programmers?

Software is always good. Add to it a replacement for carddrv-
-something that can handle the power managament of the lexar
controller. You couldn't boot of it but the old one would work for
that. I'd pay for that. Isn't that VGA out card 3.3 volts?

-John

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Al:
Do you tink it woiks wit da HP200?

Tanks,

Al McKinney
salmck@aol.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:00:26 GMT
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Subject:      Re: DOS is dead, Win CE is a live- what can we do?

I think you guy's are way too worried. If CE is doing good its
probably machines like the 620LX. And if people want a laptop
people want a laptop. They won't buy a little palmsized computer
to replace a laptop except for perceptive nutcases like myself:).

-John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:54:55 EDT
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I wonder what kind of response Thaddeus Computing would get putting an ad
comparable to the stuff in their "Ultimate Palmtop Catalog."  Pages 2-5, for
example, are great ads and might generate some business for them if placed in
the bigger computer magazines -- maybe even in the Windo$ mags - more demand
might pique HP's interest in future development!

Al McKinney
salmck@aol.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 21:50:55 GMT
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Stick an "all in your pocket" on it and it'd be ready to go. If I
had seen that ad BEFORE I bought the laptop and desktop I wouldn't
be saddled with them now. I'd have bought the 200LX instead:)

-John

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 22:21:30 GMT
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*sigh* what can we do?:)

-John

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What are you using to download the files--the palmtop or your
desktop? What program are you using?

John

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Mmmmm...:)

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:42:05 PDT
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Hi all,
Al Kind was kind ;-) enough to point out that if I AM wanting a Palm
Pilot, the quickest and best way would be to sell my 200lx. Thus this
post. I have one FS. It includes a 1MB upgraded to 5MB, a Simple
Technologies 20MB flash card, Windows conn. kit with cable, docking
station, palmtop maintenance kit (2), conn. adapter kit, many Palmtop
Papers, all manuals, Megahertz 14.4 modem, much software, and a Calise
case to keep the LX in good shape. The unit is solid with no hinge
crack, no signs of abuse just a few normal scrapes/dings. I ask 3 things
fellow palmtoppers: 1)Make a offer if interested, 2)If you are thinking
trade for palm keep in mind the difference in value, and 3)If you're
reading this but not in the market for another, input as to fair market
value would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
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My missing lines are about 1.5 inches from the right edge, and there could be
anywhere from 3 to 6 missing lines.
By pressing in certain areas below the screen I can diminish the quantity of missing
lines.
By twisting the the display, i can make them dissapear.
Also the display to the right of the missing lines tends to flicker.

Jefcom.

Jason C H Yap wrote:

> I take it this means that the missing lines are all on the far left. Recently i
> had variation on this theme ... there were missing pixel line every half
> centimetre or so across the whole screen! It started first out of nowhere and
> disappeared itself, also without intervention (I was just furiously scratching
> my head, didn't know what to do...) and it became more persistent. Finally it
> was only go away when i rapped the *bottom* of the palmtop sharply with a
> knuckle. Chaikin kindly took the machine and got it checked, and since then, it
> has mostly behaved itself. (Did it a couple of times more but went away again).
>
> This I think is not a problem with the screen contacts that people talk about
> cos bending the *screen* does nothing. Only knocking the body does. Maybe it is
> to do with the driver board itself. Any ideas, anyone? Think it will come back
> again ... it's just a matter of time ...
>
> With fingers crossed,
>
> jasonyap
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> A question for the list - is Microsoft project for DOS available
> anywhere and will it run on the 200LX? If so where can I get it,
> approximate price? (I live in the UK).
>

I have an early DOS version of MS Project on my machine and it
runs well but I did not use it for years.
I think to remember that you have to change to mode=3Dmono.

NO idea where to buy it however.

HP

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Jorgen hit it pretty right on.

I would also be willing to pay someone other than HP for software to be
able to run all my HP200 productivity software on my PC. I guess the
connectivity pack includes it, but I only want the software.

Word processing is the other difficulty. I do a lot of writing in my HP,
then transfer the file to my PC to use Word or Works because it is
better/ easier formatting.

Then I can no longer access the documents on my HP.

Oh well.

Thanks to all the replys re transfile 200. It isn't what I'm looking
for.

Anyone willing to sell just the software from CPACK?

Thanks
Bob

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>
> Why do I write this e-mail!? I write it as a wake-up call for you
> users and developers. If you want to see your 100/200LX in use after
> year 2000, we need more programs for our palmtop PC's!
>
>
Jorgen,

count me on your side.

I will not need all of your mentioned suggestions and I'm not
sure about WinCE either but we will have to adopt to this
trend and I'm prepared to pay.

We all grew up with DOS and feel familiar and comfortable
with it. My children grow up with Win and have nothing to do
with DOS. So naturally they will work with Win and we either
join in or we will be left out for old age pension and wheelchairs.

HP

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:05:32 EDT
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In a message dated 98-10-16 16:50:56 EDT, you write:

<< Not TWAIN, of  course. >>

Am I the only one who finds TWAIN to bo one the most amusing acronyms?

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Subject:      Dreams: 620LX VGA-out card, DOS is dead, Wince alive...

        Hello all,

    HP 620LX VGA-out card: I don't think it's a real PCMCIA card at
    all. It's 3.3V for sure and more than likely it's nothing but a
    bunch of coils and resistors on the inside. It puts out a 1/2
    VGA 256-color picture onto VGA monitors, same as the 620LX uses
    with the built-in LCD. So it's a simple amplifier, AFAIK. The
    price range, about 10% of the 620LX price is too low to suggest
    real electronics inside that card. The card is bulky itself.

    But even if above is untrue, there is already a color graphics
    adapter inside the 200LX and PCs can have one mono and one color
    adapter at a time. Also, VGA is analog, while CGA is TTL level.

    Question: Regular ISA bus CGA cards used to have a jumper to set
    mono/color operations mode. It is possible with the 200LX? (I am
    not talking about DOS command "C:\>mode CO80" or "BW80", but HW
    level).

    External video for LX could be easier by stealing away signals
    from the LCD cable. E.g. there is an overhead panel for HP48GX,
    what could be done with that? Or there are older AT&T (640x400)
    (aka. double-scan CGA) overhead panels, that are TTL. But how
    many are interested? Wish, Japanese users were still active as
    much as they used to be a year ago.

    For palm & DOS future: I'd say with application software follow-
    up, we're are dead. Can a max. dozen volunteers develop Winframe
    alternative for Win 3.0? Or Office 98 <--> Lotus Suite for DOS
    converters with no format info and company support?

    With hardware, it's different. Writing drivers will always be
    possible. If the new HP CapIt scanner spits out PDF, it means
    it has a scanner and some RIP inside. Should you turn off the
    plus HW, it will be able to output raw bitmap and you do pro-
    cessing on the HPLX CPU to .PCX or else. If there is not IrDA
    support for the Canon BJC-70/80 for older than Win'95, that
    can be fixed as well. The amount of company confidental info
    needed to write drivers is way smaller, than for app. software.
    And there is always trial/error... Also, with Linux, companies
    are more likely to release HW info, then before free OS craze.

    Few things badly needed: source code of dj346en.exe and irda200
    drivers made public by any means (wonder if HP would like to see
    their 9000s to be attacked from HP200LX?) That might enable work
    on SH888-LX connection one way. Second, get hold of ample info
    from Ericsson. Hope they are interested in DOS. Also solve printer
    and IrDA accessories problems once and for all.

    Heavy PR work towards Netscape. their latest 4.50ProEd browser had
    importer for the HPLX. Should one convince them of its usefulness,
    maybe they make it a generic use converting tool. Such widespread
    SW could solve connectivity problems.

    Where are all the DOS HPLX ever manufactured? Must be over 1/2 mio
    units. I get the image people using 200LX publicly are not common
    sight even in the US. Also, these toys are rugged, so even most of
    95LX must still be operative. But, used prices are still high sug-
    gesting that only a few units are for sale. Where are the hidden
    LX machines? Any ideas?

            Sincerely:
                        Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:32:39 -0700
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Hi, just found a great price on a Microtech Compact Flash
card.  Can I use any old compact flash card in my 200LX
assuming I have the CF to PCMCIA converter?

Thanks!

Brian S
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:12:53 GMT
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Well I grew up with windows yet I am using dos. I think people
will use the 200LX once they find out how useful it is.

-John

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Subject:      Re: Compact Flash

In message <3.0.5.32.19981017043239.007bbde0@popd.ix.netcom.com>, kaervek@ix.netcom.com said:
> Hi, just found a great price on a Microtech Compact Flash
> card.  Can I use any old compact flash card in my 200LX
> assuming I have the CF to PCMCIA converter?
>

YES as long as its a 5 volt card.

-John

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Subject:      paying for software

Don't you guys buying software? I've got a least 5 programs on
my machine that I've registered. I would have more if the programs
hadn't been discontinued like pspice was. Which reminds me--I
need to register QFAX one of these days. If you aren't buying
software--GET WITH IT!!!

-John

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Subject:      Re: Dreams: 620LX VGA-out card, DOS is dead, Wince alive...

>
>     For palm & DOS future: I'd say with application software follow-
>     up, we're are dead. Can a max. dozen volunteers develop Winframe
>     alternative for Win 3.0? Or Office 98 <--> Lotus Suite for DOS
>     converters with no format info and company support?
>
>     With hardware, it's different. Writing drivers will always be

                                             ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬
Now this is sense. This is one of the things that attracted me
to the LX in the first place. A lot of companies such as those
for radio mail are not supporting the lx any more. We should do
it for people. What about digital camera drivers? How about upgrading
to led to have a range greater than a meter? I'd love to use it
to open my garage door. What about decent irda drivers--I'd pay
for that. The idea for synche software was good. I don't need it
but people keep complaining about it and it is one of the reasons
people buy CE--whoever they are!

-John

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>
>Word processing is the other difficulty. I do a lot of writing in my HP,
>then transfer the file to my PC to use Word or Works because it is
>better/ easier formatting.
>
>Then I can no longer access the documents on my HP.
>


Can't you save them again as text files and transfer them back to the HP?

In line with my other reply to this message, if you can spare the space in
your desktop, a PCMCIA card reader would make this a breeze.


Alan

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At 09:24 PM 10/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Jorgen hit it pretty right on.
>
>I would also be willing to pay someone other than HP for software to be
>able to run all my HP200 productivity software on my PC. I guess the
>connectivity pack includes it, but I only want the software.


On Compuserve you used to be able to download the Omnibook 600 phone and
address book software. These programs can use the HPx00LX .adb and .pdb
files on your desktop or laptop.

This also included the CALC program. I don't think there is a Notes
equivalent.

I recently looked for the files, and they were gone. I would be glad to
send them to SUPER for posting if there is interest. I am assuming there is
no copyright violation as they were on Compuserve for years in the HP Forums.

Since I put the PCMCIA card reader in my desktop, I often remove the PCMCIA
card from my  palmtop, where I store my files, and use them on the desktop.


Alan

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:53:43 +0200
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              Gerhard Gonter 
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              Austria
Subject:      Re: DOS is dead, Win CE is a live- what can we do?
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Jorgen Wallgren wrote:
> We have all heard that DOS is dead- for a long time!

How dead DOS really is can be experienced when you buy new hardware.
Until recently, you were able to get DOS software for almost everything
but this has stopped, e.g. I was looking for DOS software for a USR
message modem but apparently, I finally have to roll my own or switch
operating systems.  Btw, did you check out the operating system
section on Yahoo! ClubsÝ1¨ ?  We (DOS users) are already an endangered
species ;)

> But my 200LX seams to have a very nice life!
Right!

> Personally I can see that we need following applications for
> HP 100/200LX in order to survive (some dreaming is allowed-
> right?):
> Ý...¨
> * Good sync support between the palmtop and Outlook + other stuff
>   which Win CE can handle.

I'm not using Windows, but otherwise, count me to your rescue team.
I have been working on Perl modules and scripts that allow me to
operate on the LX'es various DB files.

Ý1¨ http://clubs.yahoo.com/Computers___Internet/Operating_Systems/

+gg

--
Gerhard.Gonter@wu-wien.ac.at  Fax: +43/1/31336/702  g.gonter@ieee.org
Zentrum fuer Informatikdienste, Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Austria

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:15:47 -0400
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I bought a 40mb Simple Tech for $159 from Marcan...

al chin wrote:
>
> You can try CN shopper for prices.  Don't know what
> their thing is but if yu hunt ata flash on yahoo you'll
> come up wit a lot of stuff.  A 40-48MB should be
> under $200 smackeroos on a cleer day like today.
>
...

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> From: bobv@SOS.NET
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: DOS is dead, Win CE ia a live- what can we do?
> Date: Friday, 16 October 1998 17:24
>
> Word processing is the other difficulty. I do a lot of writing in my HP,
> then transfer the file to my PC to use Word or Works because it is
> better/ easier formatting.
>
> Then I can no longer access the documents on my HP.
>
> Oh well.

Sure you can!

When on the desktop in Word or Works, simply save the documents
out as ascii text, and on the LX, memo will suck them right up!

Another great portability medium is html.

HV ( www.dasoft.com | www.palmtop.net/super.html ) is wonderful for
reading information in web page format.

How about a sysmanager compliant app to format/write in html? That
would assure us LXrs of a compatible future with any platform.

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Mike Joseph wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Al Kind was kind ;-) enough to point out that if I AM wanting a Palm
> Pilot, the quickest and best way would be to sell my 200lx.

Mike,

Put your request out on the PalmPilot newsgroups and the PalmPilot mail
list. I think there are many dual users like me lurking in both 200lx
and Palm groups.
--
73

Nick Marsh
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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:55:52 +1300
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Hi fellow LXrs.

I have a (NoName) card reader for sale. I actually bought two from a
sale of yet another computer store closing down in Auckland, NZ.

The reader is internal, fits a 3 1/2" bay and has an isa? io card.

It has two slots, one for type I or II, and the other slot takes I, II or
III.
Yes, you can use both simultaneously, and yes, 95 recognises the
reader with no additional software, although there are disks with s/w
for dos (Yay!) win 3.1x and 95 (not needed).

Mine had served me well, with astonishing data transfer rates after
years on serial lines! I often work on documents on the desktop
from the card and then pop it back into the lx.

I am asking US 100 or swap for a 30-48meg card! (I will pay postage
from NZ)

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:08:47 -0500
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I would love the files you mentioned.  Please post and/or send me a =
copy.

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From:   Alan PeresÝSMTP:aperes@MCS.NET¨


On Compuserve you used to be able to download the Omnibook 600 phone and =
address book software. These programs can use the HPx00LX .adb and .pdb =
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... I would be glad to
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 08:19:14 -0700
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Brian Sugita wrote:

> Hi, just found a great price on a Microtech Compact Flash
> card.  Can I use any old compact flash card in my 200LX
> assuming I have the CF to PCMCIA converter?
> Thanks!

Well, I don't know about ANY old compactflash card, though I think they're
ATA-style so it should work fine.  But I do know that the Microtech cf
card will work fine in the 200LX with an adapter.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:27:17 +0100
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Subject:      Re: Availability of Microsoft Project for DOS
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Claud, assuming Project 4 for DOS for the 200LX is on Jeff John's site,
do you or anyone out there know the URL please? I searched the heck out
of the web for Jeff John's site with no luck. I also searched the heck
out of the web for Microsoft project 4 for DOS with zero success?

Anyone have a source for MS Project 4 for DOS and any info on it's
functionality?

Thanks

In message , Claud G. Cameron  writes
>I think it's on Jeff John's site, and it does run on the LX.  I used it on
>the LX for about a year.  The only bad thing about using it is that the
>file conversion routine for use with the latest Windows version is only one
>way.
>
>
>hth,
>
>Claud
>

Dr Peter Maddern
Technical Manager
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Heard this is a good company...FYI
 40,000+
Computer Products - Free Shipping and...
Cathy

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Alan,

I'm interested - any way I can get them would be fine.




Thanks,

Paul Anderson
President
Systems Consulting
Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
89 Main Street
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;-)

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At 09:24 PM 10/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Jorgen hit it pretty right on.
>
>I would also be willing to pay someone other than HP for software to be
>able to run all my HP200 productivity software on my PC. I guess the
>connectivity pack includes it, but I only want the software.


On Compuserve you used to be able to download the Omnibook 600 phone and
address book software. These programs can use the HPx00LX .adb and .pdb
files on your desktop or laptop.

This also included the CALC program. I don't think there is a Notes
equivalent.

I recently looked for the files, and they were gone. I would be glad to
send them to SUPER for posting if there is interest. I am assuming there is
no copyright violation as they were on Compuserve for years in the HP
Forums.

Since I put the PCMCIA card reader in my desktop, I often remove the PCMCIA
card from my  palmtop, where I store my files, and use them on the desktop.


Alan

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 20:12:28 -0400
Reply-To:     wally@pop.uky.edu
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From:         Walter Francis 
Subject:      Commo DL's fail, Comm works fine?
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I connect to my university dialup, connect to a machine on an 8 bit line, and
try SZ to send files, no luck in Commo.  Y and XModem the same.

But if I fire up DataComm, without hanging up or anything, same connection,
the downloads work fine from it.

Commo downloads fine from my big computer directly connected.

Any suggestions on what to try?

--
 -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. .
 .  Walter Francis                                               _. KT4LH  .
 -                  Posted from a 200LX Palmtop Computer        o:o        -
 .  Wally@POP.UKY.EDU                           http://sac.uky.edu/~wally  .
 --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...-- --... ...--  ..

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 17:22:30 -0700
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              Joe Barrera 
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Subject:      2 + 2 = 820
Comments: cc: CSchlim@AOL.COM

Hmm,

I don't know anything about www.buyz.com -- but they've filled in the
missing pieces for me on what HP's new handheld is (WinCE, of course, sigh):

B Squared Part Number :  1229401
Manufacturer Part Number :  F126OA
Manufacturer :  HP - PALMTOP HANDHELD
Description :  JORNADA 820 PALMTOP
Price :  $718.83   FREE SHIPPING! NO HIDDEN COSTS!
Retail Price :  $999.00
Available :  Not In Stock
Shipping Weight :  3.50 lb

http://www.buyz.com/prodinfo.asp?PN=1229401

HP released this earlier (on the 8th). Note the use of the StrongARM (I
believe the earlier HP WinCE machines used the Hitachi SH3)...

PALO ALTO, Calif., Oct. 8, 1998 -- Hewlett-Packard Company today announced
its support of the Windows(R) CE operating system, Handheld PC Professional
Edition (the third-generation software from Microsoft(R) Corp. for the
Handheld PC) through a new line of Handheld PCs.

Recognizing the importance and expected growth of the Handheld PC market, HP
is putting its full support behind Microsoft's latest edition of its Windows
CE software. Microsoft's new software will help advance HP's line of
Handheld PCs, giving mobile professionals a choice in their PC companion
products.

HP plans to build on its current family of PC companions and to introduce a
new brand of products that meet the diverse needs of today's mobile
professionals. The first product in the new line of Handheld PCs will
include Intel's 32-bit StrongARM processor, the SA-1100, running at 190MHz.

http://www.hp.com/handheld/news/lauch820.html

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 21:12:40 EDT
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And here is the Press Release that HP should have put out.

HP Announces Support of Microsoft's Traditional DOS in a Palmtop PC, the
HP486LX

HP to Introduce a New DOS based Product based on Intel's 80486 Processor

PALEO ALTERNATIVE, Calif., Oct. 8, 1998 -- Hewlett-Packard Company today
announced its continuing support of the DOS operating system, (the third-
generation of such support, following the trend-setting HP95LX and the highly
innovative HP100/200LX, which most believe continues to be the state of the
are today) through a new Palmtop PC.

In a stunning turn of events, HP has announced that it will completely abandon
the Windows (R) CE environment as unsuited to serious computer applications.
Recognizing the importance and expected growth of the Palmtop PC market, HP is
putting its full support behind Microsoft's traditional DOS programming
environment. Microsoft's existing software will help advance HP's line of
Palmtop PCs, giving mobile professionals an excitingly versatile and powerful
product.

HP plans to build on its traditional family of Palmtop PC's and to introduce a
new  product that meets the diverse needs of today's mobile professionals.
The new product will include an exciting new low power version of Intel's
80486 processor,  running at a clock quadrupled 132MHz.

"The announcement of HP's new Palmtop PC -- which supports Microsoft's time
tested Disk Operating System -- has badly frightened Microsoft," said Harel
Kodesh, vice president, Consumer Appliance Group, Microsoft. "By supporting
this open operating system for Palmtop PCs, HP's new Palmtop PC offers users a
comfortable and convenient means to remain in touch while away from the
office.  In light of this development, it will be much harder for us to
convince suckers to use our new, high-profit, Windows(R) CE operating system."

"We are very pleased that HP has selected Intel's new low power technology for
its new palmtop computers," said Bill Johnson, vice president of Intel's
Computing Enhancement Group. "We believe the combination of low power and high
performance from our 80486 technology, combined with HP's innovative palmtop
products, will greatly enhance the functionality of serious computing."

HP has express deep regret for its mistaken foray into the "WinCE" operating
system, and they now refer to it.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 00:40:12 GMT
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Subject:      Re: HP486LX

That might require a little innovation on part of HP--can't
have that anymore, now that they've become enslaved by Biil
Clin--oops I mean Gates.

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:04:29 -0400
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              Gary Silverman 
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Brian, what kind of pricing are you getting on the 30mb or 40mb Viking
compact flash cards? And can you find out what type of controller they use
in their cards? If so, I might be able to give you some meaningful feedback
on how it compares to controllers in other cards such as Sandisk or Simple.
Sandisk of course uses their own proprietary controller. Simple uses Hitachi
and Lexar controllers. There are certain controllers I suggest you avoid
such as Tokio Electronics, due to many problems they cause such as boot up
delays and card recognition issues in many card readers. I'm glad I could be
of help to you.

Regards,

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Sugita 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Friday, October 16, 1998 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: Viking ATA Flash


>Hi Gary, Thanks for the information.  I checked out the Compact Flash
>prices around and actually found them to be more expensive than the
>standard ATA Flash cards in the 30MB-40MB range.  However I am
>still considering a CF card now simply due to the fact that it sounds
>as tho it is faster.  I contacted Hal, and hopefully he can provide a price
>that beats the price I found for the Viking ATA Flash.  Price is an
>important factor to me right now after having to shell out money for a
>new HP200LX. :(  Thanks again for the information!!
>
>Brian Sugita
>
>At 10:05 AM 10/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Brian, not that I mean to confuse you further, but have you considered
>>compact flash? In the lower capacities, compact flash tends to outperform
>>Type II cards, costs less (based on cost/per mb) and offers you more
>>versatility since you can pop the card (w/a $6-$8 Type II adapter) into
any
>>PCMCIA slot, as well as use it with most digital cameras. You may want to
>>check out the Sandisk 40mb Compact flash. I know you can acquire Sandisk
>>cards through Thaddeus Computing even though they don't advertise it yet.
>>Hal Goldstein can provide you with pricing. Sandisk may cost a little more
>>money than Simple, but they seem to provide better power consumption for
>>longer battery life and no initialization boot up delays.
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>kaervek@ix.netcom.com
>
>~ On a clear disk, you can seek forever... ~
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:12:01 -0700
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              Brian Sugita 
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From:         Brian Sugita 
Subject:      Re: Viking ATA Flash
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Hi Gary, I don't know much of anything about what controller the Viking
cards have.  I heard they are a little slower than Simple cards, but work
fine with the HP200LX.  I can get the 32MB Viking card for $124.  Thanks!

Brian S

At 10:04 PM 10/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Brian, what kind of pricing are you getting on the 30mb or 40mb Viking
>compact flash cards? And can you find out what type of controller they use
>in their cards? If so, I might be able to give you some meaningful feedback
>on how it compares to controllers in other cards such as Sandisk or Simple.
>Sandisk of course uses their own proprietary controller. Simple uses Hitachi
>and Lexar controllers. There are certain controllers I suggest you avoid
>such as Tokio Electronics, due to many problems they cause such as boot up
>delays and card recognition issues in many card readers. I'm glad I could be
>of help to you.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:26:19 -0400
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Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:
>
> And here is the Press Release that HP should have put out.

Geez Lynn,

If you are not doing press releases for a living you should look into
that line of work. (Big grin)

I think I would have added that IBM has lined up to support the new
HP direction also.
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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:20:27 -0700
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              "Whay S. Lee" 
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From:         "Whay S. Lee" 
Subject:      Re: Over 450 Pieces of DOS Freeware

> Date:    Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:12:45 -0400
> From:    David Kramer 
> Subject: Over 450 Pieces of DOS Freeware
> >From http://www.andover.net
> Over 450 Pieces of DOS Freeware

Folks:

        There is also a list of  DOS freeware sites
        on "http://www.alkaid.ml.org/cgi-bin/pclinks.cgi?D=on"

whay.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 10:51:15 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" 
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From:         "Liam M. Early" 
Subject:      Re: PCMCIA desktop reader for sale...
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>I have a (NoName) card reader for sale. I actually bought two from a
>sale of yet another computer store closing down in Auckland, NZ.


This doesn't sound promising, sounds like I should plan
to stay in Western Austalia for a while longer 8-).

| Industrial Projects  (Liam Michael Early)
| P.O. Box 1061, Bunbury, W.Australia 6231
| Ph/Fx: +61 8  9721 8506  Mob. 0412 909 684
| e-mail 1:  industrial_projects@technologist.com
| e-mail 2:  danaan@opera.iinet.net.au

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Date:         Sat, 17 Oct 1998 23:18:37 -0400
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              Gary Silverman 
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Subject:      Jeteye Infrared Printing w/Software Carousel
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I thought I would throw out an issue I'm having in the hopes that =
someone else has perhaps experienced the same problem and found a =
resolution. No need to re-invent the wheel! .....
=20
I have a 64mb doublespeed 200LX running Software Carousel  Version 7.01. =
Prior to using SC, I frequently used a model 9510 Jeteye device by =
Extended Systems to do convenient infrared printing from my palmtop to =
my laserjet printer. Ever since I installed Software Carousel, the =
Jeteye utility has ceased to work. Currently, my only workaround is to =
modify the autoexec file so that it does not boot into SC whenever I =
want to do infrared printing. Has anyone out there found a better =
solution, or does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
=20
Regards,
=20
Gary

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I thought I would throw out an issue =
I'm having=20
in the hopes that someone else has perhaps experienced the same problem =
and=20
found a resolution. No need to re-invent the wheel! .....


 


I have a 64mb doublespeed 200LX =
running Software=20
Carousel  Version 7.01. Prior to using SC, I frequently used a =
model 9510=20
Jeteye device by Extended Systems to do convenient infrared printing =
from my=20
palmtop to my laserjet printer. Ever since I installed Software =
Carousel, the=20
Jeteye utility has ceased to work. Currently, my only workaround is to =
modify=20
the autoexec file so that it does not boot into SC whenever I want to do =

infrared printing. Has anyone out there found a better solution, or does =
anyone=20
have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


 


Regards,


 


Gary


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              Gary Silverman 
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From:         Gary Silverman 
Subject:      Jeteye Infrared Printing w/Software Carousel
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I thought I would throw out an issue I'm having in the hopes that =
someone else has perhaps experienced the same problem and found a =
resolution. No need to re-invent the wheel! .....
=20
I have a 64mb doublespeed 200LX running Software Carousel  Version 7.01. =
Prior to using SC, I frequently used a model 9510 Jeteye device by =
Extended Systems to do convenient infrared printing from my palmtop to =
my laserjet printer. Ever since I installed Software Carousel, the =
Jeteye utility has ceased to work. Currently, my only workaround is to =
modify the autoexec file so that it does not boot into SC whenever I =
want to do infrared printing. Has anyone out there found a better =
solution or have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
=20
Regards,
=20
Gary

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I thought I would throw out an issue =
I'm having=20
in the hopes that someone else has perhaps experienced the same problem =
and=20
found a resolution. No need to re-invent the wheel! .....


 


I have a 64mb doublespeed 200LX =
running Software=20
Carousel  Version 7.01. Prior to using SC, I frequently used a =
model 9510=20
Jeteye device by Extended Systems to do convenient infrared printing =
from my=20
palmtop to my laserjet printer. Ever since I installed Software =
Carousel, the=20
Jeteye utility has ceased to work. Currently, my only workaround is to =
modify=20
the autoexec file so that it does not boot into SC whenever I want to do =

infrared printing. Has anyone out there found a better solution or have =
any=20
suggestions? Thanks in advance.


 


Regards,


 


Gary


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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 16:48:08 +1000
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>What are you using to download the files--the palmtop or your
>desktop? What program are you using?
>
WWWlx on the 200lx

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 02:16:04 -0700
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              "Whay S. Lee" 
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From:         "Whay S. Lee" 
Subject:      GEM works on the LX !!

Folks:

There must be a few of you out there who remember the GEM desktop from the
Atari days. Well, I came across the GEM World website,
(http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm/gemworld.html)
and am happy to report that the PC version in fact runs quite well on the
HP200LX, (and quite snappy too, even on my 1x machine). You can even run it
from Sys Manager (give it at least 256k memory), and the blue keys still
work too.

For those who are not familiar with GEM, it is "a graphical environment for
the IBM PC and the Atari ST. PC GEM was a fairly widely used GUI until the
release of Windows 3.0. a graphical interface", to quote from John Elliott,
who runs another GEM-related website
(http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Gem/)
(there are some screen shots here) . It was made by Digital Research, and
is owned by Caldera now. According to John: "Permission has been granted by
Caldera, Inc. to distribute this software free to individuals for PERSONAL,
NON-COMMERCIAL, use.".

The setup, including a word processor, mail-merge, and a paint program,
occupies less than 1 MBytes. That includes about 33K of fonts, and 37K of
patterns (for the paint program, I presume), and about 7K of sample
documents. I captured a few screen shots on the HP200LX. You can find them
at http://web.mit.edu/~wslee/MOSAIC/gem.html  (note that it is not
www.mit.edu). I have also included some hints there concerning installing
and running GEM on the LX.

There are a few more applications that I have not tested (Draw, Graph,
Chart, Publisher, Write). But the GEM v3.01d package (which includes the
paint and word processor apps above) works like a charm. I still haven't
figured out whether printing works though. The most important part however
is that there is a programmer's toolkit. You can get everything you need at
the GEM World website (start with GEM v3.01d).

If you find out more about running GEM on the 200LX, please drop me a line.
 Enjoy.

Whay.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:01:51 +0000
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Very good idea to use HTML as exchange format between different
platforms. What I like most about this idea is it's future
awareness and the fact, that Andreas Garzotto is involved,
which means we can expect perfect solutions now and in the
future. Not for free indeed!

My suggestion: If Andreas could merge the HTML features of HV
into PE and upgrade PE to a commercial product which allows
wysiwyg HTML editing, we would have a long lasting solution.

I know you can do it already now by editing a HTML document
in HV, but you need to know all HTML tags.

If the desktop word processors support conversions from/to
HTML, preserving layout, the problems are solved.

It is not unlikely, that HTML will become the major layout and
document format in the future. We have it on our palmtops.

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:47:48 -0400
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I have decided to sell my 700LX combo which includes a like new 700lx
with a docs and box along with a Nokia 2190 GSM phone. Also included is
a low power 14.4 modem.

Not included are:

Slim line battery for 2190 phone (available from cellone, $33.95)
AC adapter for 700LX (uses Nokia phone ac adapter, available from
cellone)
Connectivity kit (available from the usual HPLX sources)

This combo should provide GSM wireless and SMS service provided the user
is in a GSM area. The phone is a PacBell unit and may be locked to
pacbell systems. I don't have access to a GSM system here in KY.

I will take $350 for the package or swap to a short wave receiver of
comparable value from Drake, Kenwood, Lowe, AOR, or Sony.

Looking specifically for:
Drake R7, R4C or SPR4
Lowe 150
Kenwood R820, R2000
AOR 3000A

tia
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Nick Marsh
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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 09:49:40 GMT
Reply-To:     Jm Musielewicz 
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Subject:      HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX

HP is supporting Microsoft. I'm glad they are out of the picture.
Microsoft is a monopoly. I don't think HP could develop a 486
Hornet chip anyway--they aren't good enough. They are building
all their hardware now with off the shelf components and a good
486 Hornet would take some design to be low power enough to work. Heck,
INTEL can't even design a decent low power 486 MPU! A 186 is easy
a 486 is hard. And IBM is gone. They're so busy trying to win chess
games they can't even build a palmtop that lasts 2 hours!

Microsoft's idea of a open system is off the shelf hardware with
everyone running their proprietary software. The only reason they
are so big is there is really nothing else for consumers to buy.
Just walk into any computer store. Maybe a Mac. For business its
differant. They buy in quanities so they are listened to. Its stupid
I know its creating a crappy system--but what can you do? In industry
money talks--although I am not trying to discount
the good thats been done such as Braile screens for blind people.

The 200LX is already pretty open--as far as that goes. HP-Pygmy
forth pretty much takes care of that. You can even recompile
the language pretty easily--try doing that with C--it would be
a heck of a lot of work. Forth is an excellant language because
it so interactive. It's pretty easy to learn once you have the
structure down. Yet you can program at the lowest levels with it.
I am most familiar (I don't know if familiar is the right word)
with basic yet am finding
forth going well. If I could sit down for a serious month
I'd probably be good at it already. The price to register is
reasonable 20-25 bucks (but you don't have to register to use it)
and its right on Super. And I am not a computer programmer nor
trying to be one.

-John

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If you get this, then I have made it to Paris and stayed connected... Heading
out to the Champs Elysees in about twenty minutes or so, located very nice on
Rue Jean Goujon. Thanks for everyone who helped me with this!

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 11:49:49 GMT
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In message <002401bdfa63$44ef9460$dcfa0fd2@Crombie>, crombie@netspace.net.au said:
> >What are you using to download the files--the palmtop or your
> >desktop? What program are you using?
> >
> WWWlx on the 200lx

I haven't downloaded anything lately with www/lx but it's
always worked well once they fixed that problem a few months
ago. I was downloading at 9600 baud with a 14k modem. Maybe your
speed is too high? Have you tried ftp to see if that works?

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11h26m32s ago ...
On Sat, 17 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> PALO ALTO, Calif., Oct. 8, 1998 -- Hewlett-Packard Company today =
announced
> its support of the Windows(R) CE operating system, Handheld PC Professio=
nal
> Edition...

Well - not unexpected, but still a thoroughly revoltin' development!

> Microsoft's new software will help advance HP's line of
> Handheld PCs, giving mobile professionals a choice in their PC companion
> products.



So, the "next generation" wince machines are STILL "PC companions"
What the #$¬& is a PC companion anyway??  Something you get for your PC
because it's lonely & depressed (probably because it's running
WinDoze...)??

Don't know about this latest abomination, but have you all noticed
that some of the new wince stuff is actually BIGGER than the Libretto?
What's the point (aside from helping Gates gain world domination) of
a machine that big, that has to run home to mommy to load software or
do backups?  If you gotta use WinDoze 98 or NT anyway, why not just
get a Libretto?



-Peniel
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Point well taken.

I have a Libretto 100 on order. That will be my "full" portable companion to
my two 200LX's.




Thanks,

Paul Anderson
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Sun, 18 Oct 1998 07:49:03 -0400 (EDT)


So, the "next generation" wince machines are STILL "PC companions"
What the #$¬& is a PC companion anyway??  Something you get for your PC
because it's lonely & depressed (probably because it's running
WinDoze...)??

Don't know about this latest abomination, but have you all noticed
that some of the new wince stuff is actually BIGGER than the Libretto?
What's the point (aside from helping Gates gain world domination) of
a machine that big, that has to run home to mommy to load software or
do backups?  If you gotta use WinDoze 98 or NT anyway, why not just
get a Libretto?



-Peniel
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>        Hello all,
>
>    HP 620LX VGA-out card: I don't think it's a real PCMCIA card at
>    all. It's 3.3V for sure and more than likely it's nothing but a
>    bunch of coils and resistors on the inside. It puts out a 1/2
>    VGA 256-color picture onto VGA monitors, same as the 620LX uses
>    with the built-in LCD. So it's a simple amplifier, AFAIK. The
>    price range, about 10% of the 620LX price is too low to suggest
>    real electronics inside that card. The card is bulky itself.
>

Having opened one of these up myself, I can testify that there is indeed a
video controller and memory inside. Consider that you can buy a VGA
controller board for $15.

>    But even if above is untrue, there is already a color graphics
>    adapter inside the 200LX and PCs can have one mono and one color
>    adapter at a time. Also, VGA is analog, while CGA is TTL level.
>

The whole concept behind PCMCIA was to allow memory and IO space to be
remapped so that this new VGA card would actually exist in a non-standard
address space and could quite happily function side by side with the
internal display adapter.

>    Question: Regular ISA bus CGA cards used to have a jumper to set
>    mono/color operations mode. It is possible with the 200LX? (I am
>    not talking about DOS command "C:\>mode CO80" or "BW80", but HW
>    level).
>

No.

>    External video for LX could be easier by stealing away signals
>    from the LCD cable. E.g. there is an overhead panel for HP48GX,
>    what could be done with that? Or there are older AT&T (640x400)
>    (aka. double-scan CGA) overhead panels, that are TTL. But how
>    many are interested? Wish, Japanese users were still active as
>    much as they used to be a year ago.
>

Major surgery vs. plugging in a card. I'd pick the card every time.

>    For palm & DOS future: I'd say with application software follow-
>    up, we're are dead. Can a max. dozen volunteers develop Winframe
>    alternative for Win 3.0? Or Office 98 <--> Lotus Suite for DOS
>    converters with no format info and company support?
>

Linux is successful as a volunteer platform because ALL of it is in the
public domain. As a programmer, if I get a look at the kernel or a driver
and get some useful information, I might be inclined to contribute back.
HP200 is essentially a closed platform. Yes, you can add DOS apps and .exm
apps, but the built in stuff is locked away.

We've had this discussion before about designing/building a totally new
HP200 clone but based on a color screen and a 486 processor, but the problem
always comes back to the built-in apps. Are the ROMs removable???? Well...
then of course the money for tooling, etc.

rick

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<>

Mitch will have to decide whether he can "legally" post them. In an
around about way we got an OK from HP and now include these files on the
Palmtop Paper CD Infobase (beginning with the current 1998 version).

Hal at Thaddeus

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<>


I am afraid the expense of advertising in those magazines are
prohibitive.  It would a lot of sales to break even, and I am extremely
conservative when it comes to such ventures.

However, if everyone wanted to chip in $100, I would be willing

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>HP is supporting Microsoft. I'm glad they are out of the picture.
>Microsoft is a monopoly. I don't think HP could develop a 486
>Hornet chip anyway--they aren't good enough. They are building
>all their hardware now with off the shelf components and a good
>486 Hornet would take some design to be low power enough to work. Heck,
>INTEL can't even design a decent low power 486 MPU! A 186 is easy
>a 486 is hard. And IBM is gone. They're so busy trying to win chess
>games they can't even build a palmtop that lasts 2 hours!
>

Have a look at the AMD Elan300/400 chipset. Two chips provide everything you
need for a palmtop including IrDA, lcd panel, pcmcia etc. etc. support. AND
it is a 386/486 based family. If I was building a replacement for the 200LX,
that would be my choice for the platform.

Here's my vision for a system:

very small box with no screen or keyboard, just video, USB and PCMCIA ports,
power jack and battery compartment.

a selection keyboards/mice/printers/CDRoms/HD/etc. that plug into the USB
port

a selection of color and mono LCD screens with and without touch that plug
into the video port. Especially of interest to me would be those tiny
screens that hang an inch from your eye and provide the equivalent of a 14"
monitor in color.

a series of open mechanical connectors on the base unit so that you can
build up a system like legos (snap together), or use cables to separate the
units.

Not only would this allow the use of DOS software, Windows software, Linux
etc. etc., but it would also provide an open standard for innovation on the
hardware side. No need to buy a new screen to upgrade the processor, etc.

>
>The 200LX is already pretty open--as far as that goes. HP-Pygmy

> 
>and its right on Super. And I am not a computer programmer nor
>trying to be one.
>

If the built-in apps were transferable to the new system, then it really
would be an open system. I suspect that as long as HP continues to sell the
200, those apps have no chance of being released - and once they stop, there
won't be anybody left to dig the stuff out of the archives.

>-John


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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:25:23 -0500
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 Hi Jorgen,

<>

Actually, the way I heard it was that it is version 3.0 before MS gets
it right. About 6 months ago they changed it from calling it version 3.0
to version 2.1.  However, I'll take your word for it that 2.1 is a
good product.


<<(This is my way to tell potential developers out there that you can
make money here- payment for your hard and honest work!).

I would personally pay following amount for:

+ Lotus 1-2-3 & MS Excel converter- $35
+ Word processing converter-        $25
+ Network version of WWW/LX-        $30 (additional to original price).
+ IrDA Phone drivers-               $50 (special!)
+ HP VGA OUT Card Driver-           $40
* Good Sync Support-                $15
(I am using my 200LX as my primary PC- so I don't personally care so
much
about sync. But I know it's very important for may users).>>

I am saying the following not to discourage software developers, but
just set the proper expectations. HP 200LX developers realistically need
to write software for the joy of it.  Any financial reward should be
thought of as nice dessert.

Jorgen, in truth those prices wouldn't be worth it for developers unless
EVERYBODY that used the products really paid there shareware fee. The
volume is VERY low. To be commercial (eg if we sold it like Software
Carousel or Collins Dictionaries), the price would have to be higher to
make a decent profit.

We are dealing with very low volume sales at this point.  Maybe we have
sold 250 Super Software Carousels and a 150 more SC's. (Maybe not that
many). We have sent out more than 100K catalogs at this point.  Our CD
Infobase -- a core product will not reach 1000 this year.

The way we stay in business it to look for products that afford us
healthy margins since the volume is so low, and at they same time afford
our customers a very useful product at a fair value.

Avi and Andreas are the only ones actively producing commercial sw. I
can only imagine Avi's workload selling and supporting those products
(hence in part a reason for Avi's disappearence here).

I as much as anyone have much to gain if developers work on your ideas.
I agree conversions and synchronization are in high demand.  However, I
think it is the same spirit that created PAL and that is creating the HV
version of the Developers Guide for our 1999 CD that will create these
new products, not financial incentive.

Hal at Thaddeus

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<< I know you can acquire Sandisk
cards through Thaddeus Computing even though they don't advertise it
yet.
Hal Goldstein can provide you with pricing. Sandisk may cost a little
more
money than Simple, but they seem to provide better power consumption for
longer battery life and no initialization boot up delays.>>

Thanks for the plug, Gary.  It is true we will probably carry the
Sandisk cards. However, which cards we carry and the pricing won't be
finalized for a week. If you call or contact us before, Oct 26, the
ladies on the phone won't know what you are talking about.

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Hal:

For a proportional percentage of the net profit, I'm in!...I received my
200LX as a gift, not knowing what a fantastic tool it was, and invested in
software and hardware for it for it over the last year and a half as I learned
more of its capabilities.  My thought was that if I had seen an ad such as
yours in PC Mag back then, I would have known of its capabilities immediately,
made the purchase not only of the unit,  but the associated software and
hardware that I have now - and shortening the learning curve!

Al McKinney
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Good day to all!
1. My short term memory appears to be shot - I saw old DOS programs for
sell -
specifically WP 5.1 - and I cannot recall if it was something I received in
the
mail or if was a webpage. I seem to believe it was a webpage, but I cannot
find
the link now. Any help is appreciated.
2. I was the one who posted regarding swapping the top half of my 100lx to
the
bottom half half of my 200lx with good results. The odd color scheme I now
have
was referred to by one poster as a "150lx" More information for fun and
games:
I painted the hinge caps and the plastic piece between the hinge caps with
primer. Why? To test wearability. Results are good so far. Bottom line is I
will
soon be the first one on the block with a blue HP palmtop.
3. See above. Some one also commented on replacing the key overlay. At the
time I thought - why bother? That was until I used it the next day. I
thought I was
going nuts until I realized they are different. Hmmm.

I share this 'stuff' with you for entertainment. You are NOT allowed to make
fun of me. ;)

"Terrorists like to brag they will die for their cause.
We can help.
The United States Marine Corps."

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Try this site

http://www.recycledsoftware.com/
>




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Good day to all!
1. My short term memory appears to be shot - I saw old DOS programs for
sell -
specifically WP 5.1 - and I cannot recall if it was something I received in
the
mail or if was a webpage. I seem to believe it was a webpage, but I cannot
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>
> Have a look at the AMD Elan300/400 chipset. Two chips provide everything you
> need for a palmtop including IrDA, lcd panel, pcmcia etc. etc. support. AND
> it is a 386/486 based family. If I was building a replacement for the 200LX,
> that would be my choice for the platform.

Two chips might be one too many to keep the same size. When I looked
at the board the lack of room is pretty impressive. You might be
able to add some room by making the whole assembly thicker--by
moving one of the chips to the back of the video. And the other
question--are they low power enough to run on a couple AA's for
3 weeks? I think the minimum clock speed for a 486 is 25 mhz which
is almost twice the speed of a 186 so if the power consumtion is
proportional (which it shouldn't be) you'll have another 25% degradation
over the 2X 200LX which would be too much. By redesigning
the battery compartment and charging circuit it would be possible
to use the 3000 mAh NiMH AA batteries that are out there. They are larger
by far, two of them are the same length as the entire 200LX,
so that would leave less room for other components. And then there's
heat. With a faster cpu would the present nonexistant venting work?
The cpu would get hotter, the charging circuit would have to put
out more current--the PC110 works pretty well but its a larger
machine and the battery life is really poor so the chips are using
way too much current.

The perfect 200LX--same case and keyboard, super low power 486DX
hornet chip running at 25-30 MHZ, non-proprietary pcmcia type II,
at least 2.1, same current, IRDA, usb port, a docking
port for external keyboard, video--present screen is nice--backlighting
could be added but not essential, CGA, programmable battery
charging--at about 3,4X current, with battery compartment
redesigned for larger batteries.
OS and built-in software in flash ROM, DR-DOS with built-in multi-
tasking kernal in ROM, at least 32 MB ramdisk. It would be nice
if the main chips--cpu,rom,ram were socketed. Extendable components
could be done through docking. Same battery life with alkyline
AA batteries. XT. One outlet AC adapter, universal input. Geeze,
when it's all typed out it almost looks possible. Of course
there's more like DR-DOS could be modified to 32 bit and to use
HPFS. Get rid of FAT.

-John

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Sorry folks, Avi was first...

Thanks for the bandwidth.

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Does anyone have a copy of defender, or a clone that runs on the HP200lx?
-David

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Al,

<>>

Sounds good to me.  I can sell shares at $100 each. I am only half (OK
maybe 3/4) joking.

HP every once in a great while did advertise in the PC Magazine type
pubs, and once they even got the ad right.  But apparently it wasn't
successful as they never made a sustained effort.

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On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David Spoelstra wrote:

> Does anyone have a copy of defender, or a clone that runs on the HP200lx?
> -David

I think I have a Defender clone somewhere. Just let me look through the
mess I call my file archive :-)

but do you reallly expect it to be that playable on the LX? I mean the LCD
display isn't really optimized for fast games (and Defender can get pretty
fast).


Cheers,

Laust

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On 10-18 07:55pm, the following was written:

> On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David Spoelstra wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a copy of defender, or a clone that runs on the HP200lx
> > -David
>
> I think I have a Defender clone somewhere. Just let me look through the
> mess I call my file archive :-)
>
> but do you reallly expect it to be that playable on the LX? I mean the LCD
> display isn't really optimized for fast games (and Defender can get pretty
> fast).

At one time I had a copy of Zaxxon loaded on my 200LX and it ran quite well,
I do think, however, that Defender would be difficult to play on the LX.

73 Jeff


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In message , hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM said:
> Al,
>
> <>>
>
> Sounds good to me.  I can sell shares at $100 each. I am only half (OK
> maybe 3/4) joking.

Well, if you decide to do it post--I'd be willing to put my money
where my mouth is.

-John

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In message <199810190117.UAA29798x@scott.net>, jeffj@SCOTT.NET said:
> On 10-18 07:55pm, the following was written:
>
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, David Spoelstra wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have a copy of defender, or a clone that runs on the HP200lx
> > > -David
> >
> > I think I have a Defender clone somewhere. Just let me look through the
> > mess I call my file archive :-)
> >
> > but do you reallly expect it to be that playable on the LX? I mean the LCD
> > display isn't really optimized for fast games (and Defender can get pretty
> > fast).
>
> At one time I had a copy of Zaxxon loaded on my 200LX and it ran quite well,
> I do think, however, that Defender would be difficult to play on the LX.
>

I have no idea about defender but I have a copy of trek (star trek)
Everytime I start it up my screen goes blank. It doesn't seem
to mess anything up though because the music plays and I can press
cntrl-break and it goes right to the dos prompt. Does anyone know
why this is?

-John

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Hi,
You can get a defender clone called Stargate at the CGA Games archive:
http://www2.netdoor.com/~whp1/games.html
But, it seems to run TOO fast, and the keys are a bit tricky to use.
Still, its small enough (18k after UPX'ing ). Lots of other good games here,
but my favorite is the 17k flight simulator F15 at
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5803/dloads.html
Runs a treat on the 'lx, and always amazes people.
byeee,

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For backup I use the HP Connectivity Pack to set up the C: drive of my
200LX as F: on my desktop, and then a simple:

        xcopy /m/s f:\*.* d:\user\backuplx

This copies only the files that have the archive archive attribute set,
and resets the attribute. DOS automatically sets this attribute when a
file is modified.

Paulo


Striegel, Alan wrote:
>
> It's not ideal for backing up because files transferred from the palmtop
> end up getting the time and date of the transfer stamped on them.
>
> I manage my backups by using the 200LX's built-in LapLinkRemote and a
> copy of Traveling Software's LapLink Remote Access (you can get this in
> the HP Connectivity kit or as part of CommWorks for Windows) for linking
> the drives on the 200LX with my Windows 95 PC and I use XtreeGold to
> copy the entire structure of subdirectories and retain date/time and
> attributes on all the files.
>
> Alan
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Hi all:

My wife never liked the HP200LX, so I got her something new and am selling
her HP200LX.  Here is the info:

It is an HP200LX 2MB version, in good shape, and it has the serial cable
and HP Connectivity Pack software.  It also has the manuals, but no boxes.
$225US

Also, when I got myself a new 4MB version, I also bought the Connectivity
pack, thinking I would need a cable.  However, I also bought IntelliSync,
which comes with the cable, so I have never opened the box on the
Connectivity Pack.

HPConnectivity Pack:  new, in box, unused, includes cable, disks, manuals,
etc... $75US.

I would like to deal within the US for ease of shipping, etc... Boston MA
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OK, OK  I want it! I'm in Nashua NH and have a brother that lives in
Framingham. My phone is 603-886-8743, name Steve Meisner.

Where are you?

Steve

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Hi all:

My wife never liked the HP200LX, so I got her something new and am selling
her HP200LX.  Here is the info:

It is an HP200LX 2MB version, in good shape, and it has the serial cable
and HP Connectivity Pack software.  It also has the manuals, but no boxes.
$225US

Also, when I got myself a new 4MB version, I also bought the Connectivity
pack, thinking I would need a cable.  However, I also bought IntelliSync,
which comes with the cable, so I have never opened the box on the
Connectivity Pack.

HPConnectivity Pack:  new, in box, unused, includes cable, disks, manuals,
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I would like to deal within the US for ease of shipping, etc... Boston MA
area ("Metro West") we can do face-to-face.

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Mike

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Peter Scarth wrote:

> You can get a defender clone called Stargate at the CGA Games archive:
> http://www2.netdoor.com/~whp1/games.html

Although this is completely off topic, Stargate is actually the sequel to
Defender and it adds features such as warp gates and a few new enemies. I
always preferred Defender over Stargate, though.

But I'll check it out all the same.

> But, it seems to run TOO fast, and the keys are a bit tricky to use.

Most games seem to :-(

Of course, the flat screen might give the impression of faster speed (when
scrolling left or right), but could it also be a weird HP-specific timing
problem?


> Still, its small enough (18k after UPX'ing ). Lots of other good games here,
> but my favorite is the 17k flight simulator F15 at

Yeah, what it lacks in "simulation" it makes up for in small size and
action...


My fave game on the LX is still either "Wasteland" (the excellent RPG) or
"Mines of Titan" (aka "Mars Saga"), another excellent RPG. You can add
Rogue (the text version availiable on SUPER) to the list. I have yet to
complete it, but it sure is fun...

I usually prefer RPGs (or adventures) over action games for the reasons
described above.


I wonder if Pirates would be playable on the LX...


Cheers,

Laust

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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 03:35:59 +0800, Jorgen Wallgren  wrote:

>>We have all heard that DOS is dead- for a long time! But my
200LX seams to have a very nice life!<<

Ý...¨

>>the next version of Windows CE starts to be
a very decent product!<<

To the List,

I believe Jorgen is right. And I will add that while today
there is room for both WinCE and the 200lx (at least in my
life), this will probably not be true sometime down the
road. Sooner or later we will be lamenting the passing of the
late, great DOS handheld as we "Grafitti-speak" our
appointments into our Windows CE 5.0 talking tablets.

I offer to you that we don't necessarily need to be a
developer to contribute to the longevity of the 200lx platform.

I am not a programmer. I am not motivated (enough) to learn C
or whatever language you developers use to create your
magic. I've never had to learn it, and I don't really need
to learn it now. You'll not see "Conrad's Softball
Scorekeeper and Statistics" anytime soon.  (Besides, Abner
for WinCE will fill my needs there.)

So you will see me (continue to) support 200lx developers
(through my purchases) as long as the tools are a value add
to me.

Watching over user groups is my palmtop passion. I will
continue to list all user groups on my web site until there
are no more.

I am a writer. Another way I will support the platform is
through articles and evaluations I contribute to the
palmtop community. Whether it's sharing info on the latest
software or spouting opinions (be they "right" or "wrong"),
I can promote the platform that way.

I am also very willing to help developers pull together user
documentation for whomever needs that sort of support. So if
any of you have a killer application you've been wanting
to release but can't find the time to write the user guide or
help files, I can help you.

So I propose the question for all of us is ... "what are you
willing to do to prolong the life of the platform?"

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
http://www.ccnet.com/~cdcox   cdcox@ccnet.com

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>>
>> Have a look at the AMD Elan300/400 chipset. Two chips provide everything
you
>> need for a palmtop including IrDA, lcd panel, pcmcia etc. etc. support.
AND
>> it is a 386/486 based family. If I was building a replacement for the
200LX,
>> that would be my choice for the platform.
>
>Two chips might be one too many to keep the same size. When I looked
>at the board the lack of room is pretty impressive. You might be
>able to add some room by making the whole assembly thicker--by
>moving one of the chips to the back of the video.

I've not opened up my 200, so I can't say for sure. However, The AMD chipset
can be had in the thinnest surface mount packages available - 1.4mm thick.
So, mount one on either side of a 0.5mm board, plunk down some equally thick
memory (1-2 chips) and you've got a complete system, in a 75mm x 150mm x
3.3mm space (conservatively). The overriding factor would be the PCMCIA slot
hardware size and the other connectors.

>And the other
>question--are they low power enough to run on a couple AA's for
>3 weeks? I think the minimum clock speed for a 486 is 25 mhz which
>is almost twice the speed of a 186 so if the power consumtion is
>proportional (which it shouldn't be) you'll have another 25% degradation
>over the 2X 200LX which would be too much.

Again, I don't have information on the power required by the Hornet chipset,
but I would bet that it actually consumes less power. The reason the CE
machines seem to gobble up more power - besides backlights, flashing LEDs,
speaker, etc. - is that CE just plain requires more cycles to do something
than DOS. Just displaying a character in text mode vs. graphics mode
probably takes 100x the processor cycles. This comes from experience writing
CE video drivers.

>By redesigning
>the battery compartment and charging circuit it would be possible
>to use the 3000 mAh NiMH AA batteries that are out there. They are larger
>by far, two of them are the same length as the entire 200LX,
>so that would leave less room for other components. And then there's
>heat. With a faster cpu would the present nonexistant venting work?
>The cpu would get hotter, the charging circuit would have to put
>out more current--the PC110 works pretty well but its a larger
>machine and the battery life is really poor so the chips are using
>way too much current.

A modern processor running DOS will run cooler and longer than the Hornet,
in my opinion. Also, the whole system can be run from 3.3v. So, I don't
think battery redesign and heat will be an issue. But, if you wanted it to
run LONGER, well that's another story.

>
>The perfect 200LX--same case and keyboard, super low power 486DX
>hornet chip running at 25-30 MHZ, non-proprietary pcmcia type II,
>at least 2.1, same current, IRDA, usb port, a docking
>port for external keyboard, video--present screen is nice--backlighting
>could be added but not essential, CGA, programmable battery
>charging--at about 3,4X current, with battery compartment
>redesigned for larger batteries.

I would really like VGA to give me software compatibility with even more DOS
stuff. And the lack of a backlight is probably the only reason I still use
my CE machines on occassion.

>OS and built-in software in flash ROM, DR-DOS with built-in multi-
>tasking kernal in ROM, at least 32 MB ramdisk. It would be nice
>if the main chips--cpu,rom,ram were socketed.

socketing blows the form factor. You've just quadrupled the thickness.

>Extendable components
>could be done through docking. Same battery life with alkyline
>AA batteries. XT. One outlet AC adapter, universal input. Geeze,
>when it's all typed out it almost looks possible. Of course
>there's more like DR-DOS could be modified to 32 bit and to use
>HPFS. Get rid of FAT.
>


Of course it is all possible. What it requires is not new technology, but
the will and financial resources to do it.

On the previous go-round, we assumed that a new case would be required, and
that was a problem due to $$. We also assumed that we'd have to recreate the
built-in apps, and that was a bigger problem due to $$$ and even more time
(although if we had started then, we'd be done by now :-)

If we could scoop the ROMs legally then that solves one problem. If we could
reuse the case, then that solves another. Now we're looking at maybe $75,000
worth of engineering to make up a new board and interface it with the
existing hardware. Not so expensive, huh? And then of course, someone like
Mack would be required to do the actual surgery on the unit, and it might
take $400 of labor to disconnect and reconnect (remember, I haven't looked
inside). The board itself would probably cost $250 in small quantity.

So, if there were 100 people interested in this upgrade, they would each
need to pay $1400 for it. 1000 people would need to pay $700 each (the board
gets cheaper). 10,000 would need to pay $600 (I'd swallow the development
costs with that many preorders, and the board gets cheaper still :-) But it
won't get any cheaper than that, and nobody is getting rich on this.

But before anyone says "but there's a market for millions, I just know it"
I'll say that that might be true. However, to reach that market, you'd have
to spend $1,000,000 (one full page color ad in PC Magazine = $50,000 last I
checked, which means I can place only 20 of those if I don't spend any money
on having somebody actually make the ad or the salary of a sales person etc.
etc. :-), so now how much will the cost of an upgrade be??? At the 10,000
level, we're now up to $700 and the risk is substantially higher because
much more $$ are put up front.

Still interested, anyone? How about you, Hal? Wanna roll some big dice :-)

rick

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Is anyone else using Q&A Report Writer 4.0?  This database is perfect
for the HP.  It is very powerful, fairly quick and has a nice Word
Processor with it.  I have been using it for several months now to keep
track of Magic: The Gathering trading cards.  My database has about 4
to 5 thousand records which the HP's built-in database could not
handle.  I was just wondering if anyone had any other useful databases
out there in Q&A format.

Ýjoe¨

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work in 200lx and are brand new.
thanks
mike

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I need to look at the data sheets to be able to answer any of
the above questions.

>
> >
> >The perfect 200LX--same case and keyboard, super low power 486DX
> >hornet chip running at 25-30 MHZ, non-proprietary pcmcia type II,
> >at least 2.1, same current, IRDA, usb port, a docking
> >port for external keyboard, video--present screen is nice--backlighting
> >could be added but not essential, CGA, programmable battery
> >charging--at about 3,4X current, with battery compartment
> >redesigned for larger batteries.
>
> I would really like VGA to give me software compatibility with even more DOS
> stuff. And the lack of a backlight is probably the only reason I still use
> my CE machines on occassion.

The reason I would stick with CGA is there might be a possibility
of reusing the old screen which would really cut down costs. Also
vga could be got through a pcmcia card if the pcmcia was standart
2.1 dual 5/3 volt. I talked to Mack. Backlighting would be very
difficult to add to the present screen. I tend to agree with him.
I looked at replacements and one with a backlight would run upward
of a least 300-400. Couldn't find an exact replacement though.

>
> >OS and built-in software in flash ROM, DR-DOS with built-in multi-
> >tasking kernal in ROM, at least 32 MB ramdisk. It would be nice
> >if the main chips--cpu,rom,ram were socketed.
>
> socketing blows the form factor. You've just quadrupled the thickness.

True but slimline sockets would make replacement of chips so
much easier. No need for special tools. This could go
in the non required bin. Of course when it comes time to replace
the rom with new ones with built-in apps sockets would be very
handy (if the prototype was built with just the OS in rom) and
with some other gui and flexpad.

>
> >Extendable components
> >could be done through docking. Same battery life with alkyline
> >AA batteries. XT. One outlet AC adapter, universal input. Geeze,
> >when it's all typed out it almost looks possible. Of course
> >there's more like DR-DOS could be modified to 32 bit and to use
> >HPFS. Get rid of FAT.
> >
>
>
> Of course it is all possible. What it requires is not new technology, but
> the will and financial resources to do it.

I own two 200LXs. I have spent a total of 1300 for the two. I would
be willing to spend another 500-1000 to upgrade the board in one
of them to a low powered 486 board with what I mentioned above.

>
> On the previous go-round, we assumed that a new case would be required, and
> that was a problem due to $$. We also assumed that we'd have to recreate the
> built-in apps, and that was a bigger problem due to $$$ and even more time
> (although if we had started then, we'd be done by now :-)

The OS is essential. The built in apps wouldn't be. Just wait til
HP dumps them--then add them.

>
> If we could scoop the ROMs legally then that solves one problem. If we could
> reuse the case, then that solves another. Now we're looking at maybe $75,000
> worth of engineering to make up a new board and interface it with the
> existing hardware. Not so expensive, huh? And then of course, someone like
> Mack would be required to do the actual surgery on the unit, and it might
> take $400 of labor to disconnect and reconnect (remember, I haven't looked
> inside). The board itself would probably cost $250 in small quantity.

If the board was directly swappable with the main board--a person
could do it themselves. If you needed to swap the memory from the
old board to the new- it gets more complex. 400 for labor is
really, really high unless you are
building the board at the same time. In two unit
quantites the board itself could be built for 150, less in thousand units.
Throw in another couple hundred for components, astronomically less
in 1000 unit quanities.
I really doubt it would take a full year for a single engineer
to design a board like this. doubt it would take more than one engineer,
3 months tops. The main trouble would
be interfacing the video. Now the software is another matter.
You would need at the minimum a bios. I know nothing about that.
Phoenix--same people that wrote the old bios? Of cousre there might
already be a bios for the Elan.

>
> So, if there were 100 people interested in this upgrade, they would each
> need to pay $1400 for it. 1000 people would need to pay $700 each (the board
> gets cheaper). 10,000 would need to pay $600 (I'd swallow the development
> costs with that many preorders, and the board gets cheaper still :-) But it
> won't get any cheaper than that, and nobody is getting rich on this.
> But before anyone says "but there's a market for millions, I just know it"
> I'll say that that might be true. However, to reach that market, you'd have
> to spend $1,000,000 (one full page color ad in PC Magazine = $50,000 last I
> checked, which means I can place only 20 of those if I don't spend any money
> on having somebody actually make the ad or the salary of a sales person etc.
> etc. :-), so now how much will the cost of an upgrade be??? At the 10,000
> level, we're now up to $700 and the risk is substantially higher because
> much more $$ are put up front.

1000-2000 is cheap for what is basically a handheld notebook
computer that can run Windows and Linex. I know nothing about the Elan.
If it fits the power requirements it would be a start anyway.
Something like this might be big in Japan. They like handhelds.

-John

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:13:13 GMT
Reply-To:     Jm Musielewicz 
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One other thing. It could be a completely open system. Every
little tidbit of info could be posted and released. The only
handheld like that.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:45:59 -0400
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Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:49:52 -0400 (EDT)

01h59m03s ago ...
On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Conrad Cox wrote:

> >>the next version of Windows CE starts to be
> a very decent product!<<
>
> I believe Jorgen is right. And I will add that while today
> there is room for both WinCE and the 200lx (at least in my
> life), this will probably not be true sometime down the
> road. Sooner or later we will be lamenting the passing of the
> late, great DOS handheld as we "Grafitti-speak" our
> appointments into our Windows CE 5.0 talking tablets.

Well - if wince fits the way you use a palmtop, then it's right for
you.



BUT - for a lot of us listmembers, the palmtop is a PC, NOT a
glorified organizer.  While wince may be improving, as long as M$
continues with the cockamamie "PC Companion" concept, it'll be useless
as a "Pocket PC", which we have now.  What I find obnoxious isn't
wince or wince users, it's the notion of wince as the REPLACEMENT for
DOS as a palmtop OS.  Hey, c'mon - we're talking apples and oranges
here.  Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.

The only remotely likely candidate for an LX successor is the Toshiba
Libretto series.  (They're actually SMALLER than some wince devices,
they're REAL "Handheld PCs", and can do DOS)

*** DOS Forever! ***



-Peniel
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:32:20 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Viking ATA Flash
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Bernie Torbik of Shoresystems used to sell memory cards at very competitve prices. I bought a 48mg CF w/PCMCIA adaptor for less than $200. My card is a Simple Technology CF and it is fast and easy on the batteries.
Check his website at www.shoresystems.net

Rich

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:03:05 -0400
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>One other thing. It could be a completely open system. Every
>little tidbit of info could be posted and released. The only
>handheld like that.
>


This is where the big win would probably be.... a palmtop for those who run
Linux on their desktops. Sorry folks, but I can't see DOS being a real
drawing card for most people. Linux, however, is just starting to snowball
and getting mind share  from the flavor-of-the-month computer press. To wear
my marketer's hat for a moment, that's where I want to hitch my wagon.
(could I have put any more metaphors in this paragraph? try it for
yourselves :-)

rick

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:12:04 -0400
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In reference to Linux, I saw a web page for a palmtop that ran at
200MHZ, 64 Meg of ram,  menu keys and used a pair of AAAs.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kozak ÝSMTP:rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA¨
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 2:03 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
>
> This is where the big win would probably be.... a palmtop for those
> who run
> Linux on their desktops. Sorry folks, but I can't see DOS being a real
> drawing card for most people. Linux, however, is just starting to
> snowball
> and getting mind share  from the flavor-of-the-month computer press.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:14:00 -0500
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Do you remember the URL?

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From: Souza, Mr Stephen
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Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:12PM

In reference to Linux, I saw a web page for a palmtop that ran at
200MHZ, 64 Meg of ram,  menu keys and used a pair of AAAs.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Kozak ÝSMTP:rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA¨
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 2:03 PM
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> Subject:      Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
>
> This is where the big win would probably be.... a palmtop for those
> who run
> Linux on their desktops. Sorry folks, but I can't see DOS being a real
> drawing card for most people. Linux, however, is just starting to
> snowball
> and getting mind share  from the flavor-of-the-month computer press.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:08:21 -0400
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Try these site for information relating to Q&A 4.0, 5.0 & Q&A Windows


http://www.quickanswer.com/

http://www.qaug.com/

http://www.macrodatabase.com/

http://www.aurora.se/


BTW - Windows 95, 98 insist on labeling Q&A for DOS as Q&A Report Writer.
That was a different product. Not a very significant observation on my part.


Thanks,

Paul Anderson
President
Systems Consulting
Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
89 Main Street
Broad Brook CT 06106-9701
860-627-5393 Voice/FAX
www.Systems-Consulting.com
;-)

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Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Joe Baughman
Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 10:01 AM
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Subject: Q&A Database


Is anyone else using Q&A Report Writer 4.0?  This database is perfect
for the HP.  It is very powerful, fairly quick and has a nice Word
Processor with it.  I have been using it for several months now to keep
track of Magic: The Gathering trading cards.  My database has about 4
to 5 thousand records which the HP's built-in database could not
handle.  I was just wondering if anyone had any other useful databases
out there in Q&A format.

Ýjoe¨

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:45:51 GMT
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:39:20 -0400, Rick Kozak wrote:

>On the previous go-round, we assumed that a new case would be required, =
and
>that was a problem due to $$. We also assumed that we'd have to recreate=
 the
>built-in apps, and that was a bigger problem due to $$$ and even more =
time
>(although if we had started then, we'd be done by now :-)

Would we really need the HP apps?  Once you have a 486 class machine in
your pocket, there is a wealth of software available to reproduce the
built-in apps. We could even load up Linux or OS/2 to choice, with a =
decent
sized amount of RAM or flash card.

--=20
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:54:41 -0700
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Rick Kozak wrote:

> >One other thing. It could be a completely open system. Every
> >little tidbit of info could be posted and released. The only
> >handheld like that.

Well, except for Linux on the Palm III.  :)

> This is where the big win would probably be.... a palmtop for those who run
> Linux on their desktops. Sorry folks, but I can't see DOS being a real
> drawing card for most people. Linux, however, is just starting to snowball
> and getting mind share  from the flavor-of-the-month computer press. To wear
> my marketer's hat for a moment, that's where I want to hitch my wagon.
> (could I have put any more metaphors in this paragraph? try it for
> yourselves :-)

So, I'm thinking of a new operating system for the ol' 200LX.  What with
the huge memory expansion options available, we have plenty of space to
work with.  It's easy to make loopback filesystems (like Stacker - a
filesystem inside another filesystem) and LOADLIN-ish bootloaders.  We
could call it LXix or something.  (Lex-icks, for pronunciation clarity.)
Anyway, I'm thinking of an ELKS kernel - based Linux distribution, with
some extra libraries tuned for the LX, which would provide operating
system support for goodies like PALish programs.  Implementation details,
anyone?

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

Your wig steers the gig.
                -- Lord Buckley

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:52:43 -0500
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Do you know of a way to use Transfile 200 that preserves the file dates
and times?  The only way I've been able to do this is to PKZIP the files
to be transferred.

David

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:33:46 -0400
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>Would we really need the HP apps?  Once you have a 486 class machine in
>your pocket, there is a wealth of software available to reproduce the
>built-in apps. We could even load up Linux or OS/2 to choice, with a decent
>sized amount of RAM or flash card.
>


A year ago, the consensus was that the built-in apps were required to make
it appeal to the current HP200LX user. What I'm hearing now is that opinions
have changed on this.

>--
>Neil Tungate 
>Team 200LX UK


rick

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:34:58 -0700
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Rick Kozak wrote:

> A year ago, the consensus was that the built-in apps were required to make
> it appeal to the current HP200LX user. What I'm hearing now is that opinions
> have changed on this.

Well, we probably don't need THE built-in applications, but newer and
better versions would be essential (and they'd have to import the old data
files, of course!  )

And with an Open Source project, along the lines of the LXix Ian Butler
just mentioned... we'd be able to do it without any trouble.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:16:55 +0930
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Subject:      Ask not what the HP200LX can do for you ...
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Conrad Cox  writes:
> So I propose the question for all of us is ... "what are you
> willing to do to prolong the life of the platform?"

Here's my thoughts on the matter (as the maintainer of ExmBatch,
LXTCP, PNR and soon-to-be-maintainer of QVRemote):

1/ For developers to continue to create applications for the HP200LX,
   there needs to be a free and open flow of ideas and techniques.

2/ Anyone who gives away software for the HP200LX should also provide
   the source code.  If you're not providing source code, ask yourself
   "Why not?".  By hoarding your techniques and source code, you are
   helping to kill the HP200LX!  There are so few developers for
   HP200LX applications that we can't afford any "secrets" when it
   comes to working out how to control the Hornet beast.

3/ Anyone who sells software for the HP200LX should keep the source
   code (as that is your livelihood, and we'd rather you stayed in
   business).  However, you may consider putting your source code in
   "escrow" (i.e. ask Mitch to lock it away in a safe place), in case
   you suddenly go out of business, or are unable to support the
   software for some reason.  Then all those people who have come to
   depend upon your software can find someone else in the palmtop
   community to take up the maintenance of your software.

Just some thoughts from someone who develops and gives away HP200LX
applications and source code ...

--
-- Rod Whitby, Staff Engineer, Electronic Design Automation --
-- Motorola Australia Software Centre - Adelaide, Australia --
-- Phone: +61 8 8203 3526, Fax: +61 8 8203 3501,  --
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:57:30 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Rod Whitby wrote:

> Here's my thoughts on the matter (as the maintainer of ExmBatch,
> LXTCP, PNR and soon-to-be-maintainer of QVRemote):
> 1/ For developers to continue to create applications for the HP200LX,
>    there needs to be a free and open flow of ideas and techniques.
> 2/ Anyone who gives away software for the HP200LX should also provide
>    the source code.  If you're not providing source code, ask yourself
>    "Why not?".  By hoarding your techniques and source code, you are
>    helping to kill the HP200LX!  There are so few developers for
>    HP200LX applications that we can't afford any "secrets" when it
>    comes to working out how to control the Hornet beast.

My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and compression
package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  The
catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, 20MB, or
even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less than
the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)

So, if anybody has any thoughts on how to do the indexing or compression,
I'd be glad to hear them.  Once this is done, the source will be included,
of course.  :)

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:01:50 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Steve Dowell wrote:

> Do you remember the URL?

He could be thinking of "Itsy", a research project from Digital. Try:

http://www.research.digital.com/wrl/itsy/


Mind you this won't really be able to replace the LX, as it has no
keyboard (or possibly an attachable one).


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:49:15 -0400
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>Anyway, I'm thinking of an ELKS kernel - based Linux distribution, with
>some extra libraries tuned for the LX, which would provide operating
>system support for goodies like PALish programs.  Implementation details,
>anyone?
>


XWindows on 200LX? ;-)

rick

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 03:10:56 +0200
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Hi all,

There are several monophonic music players and composers for the LX. Does
a polyphonic one exist? All I want is two (or three) voice at a reasonable
quality. Even the ZX (Timex for you American folks) Spectrum could do that
so why not the LX? :-)

I could of course use LXMIDI and a midi composing program but I'd much
rather have an integrated package.

Any ideas?


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:10:36 -0700
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Rick Kozak wrote:

> >Anyway, I'm thinking of an ELKS kernel - based Linux distribution, with
> >some extra libraries tuned for the LX, which would provide operating
> >system support for goodies like PALish programs.  Implementation details,
> >anyone?
>
> XWindows on 200LX? ;-)

Sounds crazy, eh?  But .. precisely.

The window manager would initially be a SysMan lookalike.  Then..
AfterStep!  YEAH!  :)  But seriously.. the 200 has a lot of stuff that
would make a SysMan-looking X easy to implement.  Namely, ROM routines and
even a dash of hardware acceleration.

We're propelling the 200LX into the 21st century, remember.  Think big.
Think real big.

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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longer believe you.
                -- Nietzsche

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:12:15 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> There are several monophonic music players and composers for the LX. Does
> a polyphonic one exist? All I want is two (or three) voice at a reasonable
> quality. Even the ZX (Timex for you American folks) Spectrum could do that
> so why not the LX? :-)
>
> I could of course use LXMIDI and a midi composing program but I'd much
> rather have an integrated package.
>
> Any ideas?

Laust, I remember an ancient program called VMUSIC that produced
impressive (for the time) 3-voice polyphonic music.  I bet it's on Simtel,
and it'd be worth a shot.  You can compose on the LX, with a text editor.

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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longer believe you.
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Rick Kozak wrote:

> >Anyway, I'm thinking of an ELKS kernel - based Linux distribution, with
> >some extra libraries tuned for the LX, which would provide operating
> >system support for goodies like PALish programs.  Implementation details,
> >anyone?
> >
>
>
> XWindows on 200LX? ;-)

Isn't ELKS still limited by the infamous 640kb barrier of DOS (and to an
extent the x86 architecture)? AFAIK it and Minix both are, and unless
someone comes up with a clever way of adressing the memory issue (no pun
intended), UNIX on the LX will remain little more than a curiosity (to me
at least).

XWindows at 620x200 wouldn't really compare to a 21" Sony Trinitron
monitor anyway :-)


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:18:20 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> XWindows at 620x200 wouldn't really compare to a 21" Sony Trinitron
> monitor anyway :-)

But X in your POCKET would!  :)

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Folks,

Someone said there was a program that would automaticly switch your
topcard.  I cna't find it.  Does anyone have some info?

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:35:05 -0700
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The topcard switcher will randomly pick a PCX file out of a directory you
specify and make it your topcard.  It can be found on Lord Jonin's Palmtop
Pages, which, if I recall correctly, are at
http://www.best.com/~jonin/palmtop.html .

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:37:23 -0400
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I, for one, rely heavily on the HP Calendar feature. I am not currently
interested in changing to another unless it maintains all the features
(notes, ease of use, etc).

I might add that I use the Memo program in meetings and for taking notes on
the road. I like it's simplicity.

I take my annual physical inventory in 1-2-3, again because of simplicity.

I don't need a level of complexity added to make this a valuable product
(tool). I use the 200LX just because it's small and simple.




Thanks,

Paul Anderson
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-----Original Message-----
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>Would we really need the HP apps?  Once you have a 486 class machine in
>your pocket, there is a wealth of software available to reproduce the
>built-in apps. We could even load up Linux or OS/2 to choice, with a decent
>sized amount of RAM or flash card.
>


A year ago, the consensus was that the built-in apps were required to make
it appeal to the current HP200LX user. What I'm hearing now is that opinions
have changed on this.

>--
>Neil Tungate 
>Team 200LX UK


rick

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Ian Butler wrote:

> Laust, I remember an ancient program called VMUSIC that produced
> impressive (for the time) 3-voice polyphonic music.  I bet it's on Simtel,
> and it'd be worth a shot.  You can compose on the LX, with a text editor.

Hmm. I played with that (or a similar program) once, but never on my LX.
I'll give it a shot.

I did try a primitive Amiga MOD player on the LX, but all it could give me
was noise and then it froze... didn't really come as a surprise, but it
would have been nice if it worked...


Regards,

Laust

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Peter,

Good site! Downloaded f15 and the Psion Chess - pity I don't speak German
but I can still play it. Regards, Crombie Redd

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:20:14 -0400
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>Isn't ELKS still limited by the infamous 640kb barrier of DOS (and to an
>extent the x86 architecture)? AFAIK it and Minix both are, and unless
>someone comes up with a clever way of adressing the memory issue (no pun
>intended), UNIX on the LX will remain little more than a curiosity (to me
>at least).


An 80186 processor has a 1MByte address range. So, 640kb is not a DOS
barrier, per se, as much as a barrier imposed by a 20bit address bus and the
need to put a bios and access to memory mapped devices somewhere. To get
direct access to all that memory, you must change processors (ie. i486
family devices).

rick

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--I'll take it if it's not sold  - THe 200LX - maybe my 95LZ cable will
still work so I not into the Conn Pack just yet.   805 781 5218 Pacific time
(CA) - I can do a check. MO or whatever..... evenings 805 461 5905, I'll
pick up the cost of the calls, too... Thanks - Gene

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> Still interested, anyone? How about you, Hal? Wanna roll some big dice :-)
>

Interesting very interesting.

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hi,

Can anybody tell me, how long re-chargable NiCd batteries last in a
plain 320LX with/without backlight on.
Is there a way to extend it.(extra bigger capacity batteries like in the
celulars, etc)?

Thanx

Alper Madenoglu

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Alper Madenoglu wrote:

> hi,

Hi!

> Can anybody tell me, how long re-chargable NiCd batteries last in a
> plain 320LX with/without backlight on.
> Is there a way to extend it.(extra bigger capacity batteries like in the
> celulars, etc)?

Uh oh!  I'm wondering if this poor soul is gonna get flamed or if
this is gonna start another one of those backlighting threads that pops
up 2 or 3 times a year?

73 Jeff

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A flame's a flame... Gotta read that screen somehow.

> Uh oh!  I'm wondering if this poor soul is gonna get flamed or if
> this is gonna start another one of those backlighting threads that pops
> up 2 or 3 times a year?

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Date:         Sun, 18 Oct 1998 19:24:30 -0700
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Thanks to all who replied regarding the HP Omni book PIMS.

Phone is exactly what I was looking for.

NOW, is there something that will run a HP200 database?

Does CPACK?

Thanks,

Bob

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:24:37 -0400
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Hi all,

I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in on this. I've actually been playing
with a couple of different x86 embeddable chipsets at work, and
I came across something that might be nice for the next generation
LX. Check out the OEMmodules at ZF Microsystems (http://www.zfmicro.com).
They have two 2.2" X 3" X .48" modules - a 40MHz '386 and a new 100MHz=20
'486. They both have:

The OEMmodule '486 contains all standard motherboard features including=20
100MHz CPU, 2MB DRAM, 2 serial ports, 1 parallel port, floppy and EIDE=20
disk controllers, AT-keyboard controller, AT-compatible BIOS, Caldera=20
DR-DOS =99 in ROM, and 1.2MB of user-available internal flash for total=20
solid-state operation.

The OEMmodule 386 is the same, but runs at 40Mhz. One of the nice things
is that they are plug compatible, so an upgrade between the current
one's and potential future ones would be relativey easy. If you wanted
better battery life, you could also make the clock software adjustable.

One other possibility - I recently got to see a couple of non-disclosure
presentations some embedded developers gave, and coming down the road
is a system-on-a-card - a complete x86 compatible system on a PC Card
(PCMCIA). Imagine being able to switch between processors by switching
between cards!

Anyway, it's fun to dream. maybe when I hit the lottery I'll finance
someone to make develop one of these.

John McDonald

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> hi,
>
> Can anybody tell me, how long re-chargable NiCd batteries last in a
> plain 320LX with/without backlight on.
> Is there a way to extend it.(extra bigger capacity batteries like in the
> celulars, etc)?
>

Actually, as you may find, this list is generally directed at the HP dos
palmtops like the HP95/100 and 200.

Nickel Metal Hydrides (NMH) batteries can generally be found in great
capacities and will work in the 320lx.  But I really don't know how long
compared with nicads.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:07:04 +1300
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At 09:12 PM 10/17/98 EDT, Lyn Cavendish wrote
>
>HP Announces Support of Microsoft's Traditional DOS in a Palmtop PC, the
>HP486LX
>
Oh, that it were so -  with a more legible screen
#######################################
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:17:20 -0700
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>>HP Announces Support of Microsoft's Traditional DOS in a Palmtop PC, the
HP486LX<<

Talk about heart palpatations!! (g)

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:16:12 GMT
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On Sat, 17 Oct 1998 16:08:47 -0500, you wrote:

>On Compuserve you used to be able to download the Omnibook 600 phone and=
 address book software.

These things are great.  I keep the appointment book app on my desktop
to back up past months of appointments and to do items.  The true
purpose of the laptop is to be a backup drive for my 200LX. ;¬)

The Omnibook files that were on Cserve include the desktop version of
the PIM, calculator, and phone book*.

* The phone book will also READ some other GDB files.

 @~

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:13:23 +1300
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Hi people. Check this DOS capable Palmtop out.
7 September 1998 --- Toshiba Libretto 1000 - Available
          now, the sixth iteration in Toshiba's Libretto series is the
          fastest, smallest and lightest Libretto yet, with a Pentium
          166MMX CPU, 256KB of L2 cache, up to 96MB of RAM, all
          encased in a super-slim 0.96" body (1.8lbs).
TOSHIBA LIBRETTO 1000 & 100
        Toshiba Libretto 1000 (32MB, 2.1GB, Pentium 166MHz with MMX)
        NEW! USD 1996
233MHz MMX Pentium clock-enhancement Upgrade for Libretto 1000
        NEW! USD 4999
Http:www.JPD.com
Imagine how fast DOS programs would execute on this baby! Ha!
Smaller form factor.
Duncan.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:40:37 -0400
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This message came to me today and I know nothing about MIDI. Possibly some
of you 200LX musicians out there can help this gentleman...

----- Forwarded message from Robert Karlbom  -----

Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:46:15 +0200
From: Robert Karlbom 
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Subject: HP200LX and MIDI

I don't know whom i shall ask these questions so i try you; please
forward to the correct person if you know !

I want to play MIDI files on my HP200LX. Have anyone found (and tried
using) a PCMCIA-sound-card suited for this purpose ?
Can I use a PCMCIA-midi-interface-card to play thru an external synth
module instead ?
Is there any MIDI sequencing software that will run on the HP200LX ?

ROBERT

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:06:41 -0400
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No unfortunately I do not have the URL. I got it from a tech magazine
but forgot to bookmark it.


Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Dowell ÝSMTP:sdowell@HARRAHS.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 2:14 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
>
> Do you remember the URL?
>
>  ---------
> From: Souza, Mr Stephen
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
> Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 1:12PM
>
> In reference to Linux, I saw a web page for a palmtop that ran at
> 200MHZ, 64 Meg of ram,  menu keys and used a pair of AAAs.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Kozak ÝSMTP:rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA¨
> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 2:03 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
> >
> > This is where the big win would probably be.... a palmtop for those
> > who run
> > Linux on their desktops. Sorry folks, but I can't see DOS being a
> real
> > drawing card for most people. Linux, however, is just starting to
> > snowball
> > and getting mind share  from the flavor-of-the-month computer press.
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Be very careful about trying the PHONE.EXE program with GDB files.  On my
system, it caused the program to crash and be unable to re-start until I
deleted the C:\WINDOWS\PHONEBK.INI file.

Alan


>From:  Alan Turley ÝSMTP:at-grey@USA.NET¨
>Sent:  Tuesday, October 20, 1998 4:16 AM
>...
>* The phone book will also READ some other GDB files.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:41:31 -0400
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Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:59:59 -0400 (EDT)

Hi folks-

Just wanted to let all you Forth users out there know that an upgraded
version of HP-Pygmy is now available on SUPER.  This one has LOTS more
support for the LX series int5Fh graphics functions, plus more system
status check/control abilities.

It also has some enhancements in math, logic, and bit test, set, and
reset.

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:41:33 -0400
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Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:06:23 -0400 (EDT)

Hi again-

Another new item on SUPER (incidentally written using HP-Pygmy) is a
new battery charge controller/monitor called Charge-It!

This is meant to let you set parameters for overnight charge as an
alternative to the stock 6 hour fast, followed by trickle charge cycle.
Charge-It! doesn't have a TSR component, so it won't monitor battery
voltage during use.  (For that you need ABC/LX).

Charge-It! is a small (14K - dieted) .com program that I wrote as a fun
exercise in Forth programming.

-Peniel
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:20:43 -0400
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I agree! I would certainly be willing to pay for better integration with the
MS office products which are in use at work!

Brenda

Jorgen Wallgren wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> I am sending this e-mail in order to give you some idea's- especially
> to you DOS program developers.
>
> We have all heard that DOS is dead- for a long time! But my 200LX seams
> to have a very nice life! :) Anyway, in some ways it's true if you look
> at the applications people use when you walk in to an ordinary office of
> today. The majority is using Windows on their desktop PC's and now we
> can see that more and more people is using Win CE on their handheld
> devices. Ok, PalmPilot has still has the biggest market share of all the
> handheld devices. But as it now goes- that may not be so much longer!???
>
> On this list we are all HP 95/100/200LX lovers and can't live without
> our palmtop PC's- right? But I am sure that we will loose at least
> 20-30% of these users during the next 3-4 months! Why you probably ask?
> The reason is very simple- the next version of Windows CE starts to be
> a very decent product! Ok, MS will always have many 'hidden features",
> but when you have features such as networking with mapping network
> drives, network printing, IMAP4 e.t.c. It starts to be a useful
> platform for many existing/potential users. As most of you probably
> already knows- it always takes MS at least 3 versions to get things
> right! Now we have to watch out for what's coming!!!
>
> MS Windows CE will now most probably be able to handle e-mail
> attachments in a more decent way. Office 97/98 attachments will
> not be a problem anymore!
>
> Why do I write this e-mail!? I write it as a wake-up call for you
> users and developers. If you want to see your 100/200LX in use after
> year 2000, we need more programs for our palmtop PC's!
>
> Personally I can see that we need following applications for
> HP 100/200LX in order to survive (some dreaming is allowed-
> right?):
>
> * 2-way Converter between: Lotus 1-2-3 & MS Excel (including graphics)
>
> * A Converter that can covert between Word 95/97, Lotus AmiPro,
>   WordPerfect e.t.c  to a ASCII, Memo, Word for DOS 5.5/6.0 and
>   WordPerfect 5.1+ (many of us has it on the palmtop).
>
> * More network support- such as for WWW/LX & Post/LX (best software
>   available- I use it every day!).
>
> * IrDA drivers for modem connection to phones such as Ericsson 888
>   (supported by WWW/LX).
>
> * HP 100/200LX driver for HP VGA OUT Card- with a 640x480 external
>   display of PowerPoint files + being able to edit the slides.
>
> * Good sync support between the palmtop and Outlook + other stuff
>   which Win CE can handle.
>
> If I am not wrong- all of these suggestions can be done! Of course
> it's some hard work involved- but it can be done- right?
>
> I think that with above mentioned suggestions- the HP 100/200LX
> community should be in a rather good shape! But as we all know-
> we are the most spoiled palmtop users in the world! HP 100/200LX
> is running DOS programs and we have so many freeware programs
> out there, so when somebody is asking for a small fee for their
> program- we directly react!!! So in order to support our platform-
> let's change style (at least for the above mentioned
> programs :) ) and offer any potential programmer payment for their
> hard work- commercial programs!
>
> I say this because I am prepared to pay for the HP 100/200LX commercial
> programs I suggested as follows:
>
> (This is my way to tell potential developers out there that you can
> make money here- payment for your hard and honest work!). I think that
> HP 100/200LX users should not expect that all the software is for free!
> Please look at the softwares which are offered to Win CE users- they have
> more commercial & shareware than we have ever seen! Not much is for
> free there!!!!
>
> In US$, I would personally pay following amount for:
>
> + Lotus 1-2-3 & MS Excel converter- $35
>
> + Word processing converter-        $25
>
> + Network version of WWW/LX-        $30 (additional to original price).
>
> + IrDA Phone drivers-               $50 (special!)
>
> + HP VGA OUT Card Driver-           $40
>
> * Good Sync Support-                $15
> (I am using my 200LX as my primary PC- so I don't personally care so much
> about sync. But I know it's very important for may users).
>
> Developers, please keep in mind that this is the prices I would accept.
> I can't talk for other users, so please wait for the feedback- if any...
>
> As I said, this is what I would pay (if the solutions was available).
> Now, it's up to you to give your message to potential developers out
> there- is it worth to spend the time on the development or not........
> Personally, I fully understand all the programmers out there- I worked
> on my HP Alarm Clock for many months (with limited knowledge in
> programming)- but I did it because I would like to learn. A programmer
> which knows his work- I believe that he would like to see some result from
> all the hours he puts in- such as an additional income, since it's his
> job. Guys, please correct me if I am wrong!
>
> Thanks for reading this message!
>
> Regards,
>
> Jorgen
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:21:19 -0500
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        >> XWindows at 620x200 wouldn't really compare to a 21" Sony
Trinitron
        >> monitor anyway :-)

        >But X in your POCKET would!  :)

AMEN to that !  Lets hear it for "Pocket X" !

Jon

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I know it is possible to disable delivery confirmations in Post. And,
if not disabled, they are enabled. But can one request such
confirmations for outgoing messages? If yes, how is it done? I don't
see a header that would do this sort of thing.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:33:01 -0500
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        Hello:

        How does a person quit a game like F15? Is CTRL ALT DEL the only
way? Can a Joystick be used on the HP200?

Dave

On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Peter Scarth wrote:

> Hi,
> but my favorite is the 17k flight simulator F15 at
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5803/dloads.html
> Runs a treat on the 'lx, and always amazes people.

Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
Swain West Rm. 117
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Would something like Flexpad work until HP releases the built-ins
? 1-2-3 is just dos version 2.4. All we would need to do is find
it. A free form database for dos might be hard to find though.

-John


In message <000001bdfbca$2f51d6a0$13bdd5cc@two>, systemsconsulting@CSI.COM said:
> I, for one, rely heavily on the HP Calendar feature. I am not currently
> interested in changing to another unless it maintains all the features
> (notes, ease of use, etc).
>
> I might add that I use the Memo program in meetings and for taking notes on
> the road. I like it's simplicity.
>
> I take my annual physical inventory in 1-2-3, again because of simplicity.
>
> I don't need a level of complexity added to make this a valuable product
> (tool). I use the 200LX just because it's small and simple.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul Anderson
> President
> Systems Consulting
> Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
> 89 Main Street
> Broad Brook CT 06106-9701
> 860-627-5393 Voice/FAX
> www.Systems-Consulting.com
> ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Rick Kozak
> Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 8:34 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX
>
>
> >Would we really need the HP apps?  Once you have a 486 class machine in
> >your pocket, there is a wealth of software available to reproduce the
> >built-in apps. We could even load up Linux or OS/2 to choice, with a decent
> >sized amount of RAM or flash card.
> >
>
>
> A year ago, the consensus was that the built-in apps were required to make
> it appeal to the current HP200LX user. What I'm hearing now is that opinions
> have changed on this.
>
> >--
> >Neil Tungate 
> >Team 200LX UK
>
>
> rick
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>
> Well, except for Linux on the Palm III.  :)

Is there a schematic availible for the Palm III?

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Actually this got me thinking of backlighting for the 200LX.
The 360LX uses a system of leds to do its backlighting. I have
heard it really doesn't affect the battery life. Which would
mean about 8 hours on a set of 1300 mAh NiMH. Why can't something
like that be integrated into the LX screen. There is room along
the sides.

-John

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jm Musielewicz wrote:

> Actually this got me thinking of backlighting for the 200LX.
> The 360LX uses a system of leds to do its backlighting. I have
> heard it really doesn't affect the battery life. Which would
> mean about 8 hours on a set of 1300 mAh NiMH. Why can't something
> like that be integrated into the LX screen. There is room along
> the sides.

I've tried that; it didn't work out.  :)  The LEDs are too dim to
illuminate the whole screen from around the sides.

Also, in a machine that uses so little current as the 200LX does, even the
small amount of current a backlight uses will cause a significant loss in
battery life-- cutting it down to perhaps 2/3 of the battery life without
backlight. But you have to weigh that against the fact that... well, it's
backlit!  

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Actually, using the "HP Palmtop/Backup HP" menu items will create a full
backup of a given drive, preserving time and date markings.  The drawback is
that you cannot extract a single file from the backup sets it creates.  It's
all or nothing.

When you have 5 MB of stuff and just need to backup the
most-recently-changed 230 KB, it's a waste of time to perform a full backup.
This is the reason I use the LapLink Remote with XtreeGold.  I select files
based on the archive bit, copy only those with it set, then clear it.

Alan

>From:  David R. Birch ÝSMTP:drbirch@EXECPC.COM¨
>Sent:  Monday, October 19, 1998 7:53 PM
>...
>Do you know of a way to use Transfile 200 that preserves the file dates
>and times?  The only way I've been able to do this is to PKZIP the files
>to be transferred.

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>I've tried that; it didn't work out.  :)  The LEDs are too dim to
>illuminate the whole screen from around the sides.

Actually LED backlighting is more than a couple of LEDs trying to backlight the
screen. There is a light diffuser that needs to be placed behind the screen to
spread out the LED light evenly.  This is how the 360 does it.  We actually
experimented with this and it would be the best approach if the diffusers were
thin enough and the LEDs bright enough.  It is the lowest power solution
possible in my opinion.

The main problem with all backlighting solution for the 200LX, though, is
getting the current reflective backing off the screen without destroying it!

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:41:23 +0800
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>Just wanted to let all you Forth users out there know that an
upgraded
>version of HP-Pygmy is now available on SUPER.  This one has LOTS
more
>support for the LX series int5Fh graphics functions, plus more system
>status check/control abilities.
>It also has some enhancements in math, logic, and bit test, set, and
>reset.


Does it have floating point or is it integer only?

Best regards.......Liam

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> From:         David SargeantÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
> Subject:      Re: battery life
>
> On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jm Musielewicz wrote:
>
> > Actually this got me thinking of backlighting for the 200LX.
> > The 360LX uses a system of leds to do its backlighting. I have
> > heard it really doesn't affect the battery life. Which would
> > mean about 8 hours on a set of 1300 mAh NiMH. Why can't something
> > like that be integrated into the LX screen. There is room along
> > the sides.
>
> I've tried that; it didn't work out.  :)  The LEDs are too dim to
> illuminate the whole screen from around the sides.
>
> Also, in a machine that uses so little current as the 200LX does, even the
> small amount of current a backlight uses will cause a significant loss in
> battery life-- cutting it down to perhaps 2/3 of the battery life without
> backlight. But you have to weigh that against the fact that... well, it's
> backlit!  
>
--------------- SNIP --------------

LED's are very power hungry.  It is possible for the LED's to pull more
power than the entire palmtop !  Most backlight schemes are a tradeoff of
the benefit of the backlight life versus  ( battery life ) .

Cheers,
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:51:39 GMT
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Subject:      HP-the 200LX is not a pda anymore

After I turn off HP Alarm and open StockChart to look at the
price of HP stocks and see they are down 30 from their six
month high of 70--all on the DOSLX--I begin to wonder. Where
is HP headed? Certainly their business descions aren't all that
great. I am leary about buying their stock since I don't like
loosing money. After programming my cicuit into Pspice and letting
it do its 45 minute thing (and knowing I could do it in less than
a minute on a 486) I have plenty of time to wonder--does HP even
realize what the 200LX is used for? I doubt they do.
HP--the 200LX is used as a data collection unit, a bbs server, a circuit
analysis tool, a stock analysis tool, a packet radio server, among
other things. Sure it works as a PDA but it works better as a
computer. Maybe we need to do our own market survey to present
to HP to let them know--we don't want PDA's--we want our computer
upgraded! The 200LX is not mature! Its barely even started!

-John

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:19:17 -0400, you wrote:

>Be very careful about trying the PHONE.EXE program with GDB files.  On =
my
>system, it caused the program to crash and be unable to re-start until I
>deleted the C:\WINDOWS\PHONEBK.INI file.

I did discover that some of the GDB files would lock up the program
requiring me to terminate it manually.  I find that to be a minor
annoyance while experimenting.

The idea of getting PHONE.EXE to allow me to look at some of my GDB
files from the laptop is too good to pass up.

 @~

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Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:28:57 -0400 (EDT)

48m49s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Liam M. Early wrote:

> Does it have floating point or is it integer only?
>
> Best regards.......Liam

It's 16-bit integer.  If you send in registration (to Frank Sergeant,
not me!) you get a bunch of bonus goodies, including double & quad math
support, serial port support, and more.  Forth typically doesn't use
floating point.  Scaled integer math (especially with 64-bits) can
cover a pretty wide range.

BTW - you might be interested in the circle drawing words in HP-Pygmy.
Integer math - no FP or trig functions (and pretty fast).

-Peniel
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Hi all,

I was surfing last night and I came across some good info. Handheld
Systems Journal (formerly PDA Developer) has all of their back issues
on-line in PDF format. There's a couple of good technical articles
on the 100/200lx in there. The url is:

http://www.cdpubs.com/hhsj/archives2.html

Check it out.

John

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:32:32 -0400
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Hi All:

     I have an SCM SwapBox Internal Kit. Kit contains PCMCIA x 2 which
fits in a 3.5" drive bay, ISA card, Cables, mounting hdw, manuals, &
disc.

     I got this a while back, but never got to install it (went with
the $10 NECX solution instead), so I can offer no help installing.
Should run on Win3.x or MSDOS 5-6...W95?

Anyway...You pay for postage, it's yours!

Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:51:09 -0700
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, John McDonald wrote:

> I was surfing last night and I came across some good info. Handheld
> Systems Journal (formerly PDA Developer) has all of their back issues
> on-line in PDF format. There's a couple of good technical articles
> on the 100/200lx in there. The url is:
> http://www.cdpubs.com/hhsj/archives2.html

This is GREAT!  Scattered through the 1995 issues are articles on making
SysMan compliant programs, the database structures, writing PAL
programs... excellent resources for palmtop programmers!

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this before!  Excellent work, John!
This is exciting.

Of course, now my schoolwork is going to suffer because I'll be busy
reading and programming in class.  :)

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Anyway...You pay for postage, it's yours!

Hi Al! If it's not already spoken for I'd like it.

73 Jeff

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        Hello all,

    The 640KB memory barrier can be bypassed if the hardware and
    software of a certain 8086/88 machine are compliant with an
    extension of the EMS 4.0 specifications. I wonder if HPLX
    falls that way. Then you can run code directly from EMS area.

    Second problem: I still have not seen a piece of useful info
    on its programming. Some said old IBM programmer reference
    manuals issued with their ISA bus EMS add-on boards had info.
    Local IBM has no such old books.

    That could be used to make larger projects, like real useful
    X-window, etc. possible. I think 640x200 should be enough for
    everybody. Even recent WinCE screen are only 20% larger. Color
    /greyshades are the difference, not size. But a small pointer
    device is mandatory for a useful GUI.

    If a game runs too fast, there is a program called MOSLOW.com
    (or .zip) that lets you set the running speed in percents (so
    100% equals a 4,77MHz XT machine) Works for me.
    (If you set it at 9999%, your HPLX will have more processing
    power, then a G3 Powerbook...)

    There was an argument here, that those developing free SW for
    the LX should release the code as well. I bet, some of those
    who do not release the source have good reasons to spare it.
    Like others using it for malicious purposes or if they simply
    too busy to properly comment the code. Releasing uncommented
    code (most source C and ASM) is bad, very few people could
    understand the inner working that way.

    BTW, the source of LXMIDI is available. I wonder if someone
    would modify that to incorporate 3-voice through the speaker.
    It's a very nice piece of SW right now (v 1.70); if the above
    completed it will be perfect. No more can the bare PC hardware
    do for sound. Is there a PCMCIA sound card compatible with HPLX?

            Sincerely:      Tamas Feher.

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

>     That could be used to make larger projects, like real useful
>     X-window, etc. possible. I think 640x200 should be enough for
>     everybody. Even recent WinCE screen are only 20% larger. Color
>     /greyshades are the difference, not size. But a small pointer
>     device is mandatory for a useful GUI.

What about a System Manager-ish interface, where you can use the keyboard
to navigate the GUI?  That way, we could get the benefits of an X system,
without needing to use a mouse.

On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)

>     If a game runs too fast, there is a program called MOSLOW.com
>     (or .zip) that lets you set the running speed in percents (so
>     100% equals a 4,77MHz XT machine) Works for me.
>     (If you set it at 9999%, your HPLX will have more processing
>     power, then a G3 Powerbook...)

Man, I wish I'd know about that before I got the speed upgrade!  :)

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Hi all,

PDA Direct is having a closeout sale on some HP palmtop stuff. They
have the following available:

Product #       Product Name                    Original Price  Sale Price

                HP100/200LX Connectivity
                Pack HPF1021B                   $99.00                  $60.00
 26001          ACT! For HP Palmtops
                95/100/200LX v1.1               $98.95                  $60.00
 26041          Intellisync for HP200LX $68.95                  $50.00

Check out their clearance page at www.pdadirect.com.

John

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SwapBox is spoken for...No more calls ;-)

02h46m24s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:

>     I have an SCM SwapBox Internal Kit. Kit contains PCMCIA x 2 which
> fits in a 3.5" drive bay, ISA card, Cables, mounting hdw, manuals, &
> disc...


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So, you mean you're trying to create a palmtop-specific version of Lotus
Magellan?  Well, Magellan wouldn't compress the original text file, but it
does squash its own index files to a pretty small size.

I found it to be a great utility because it offered fuzzy searching of not
only text files, but .ZIP archives, database files, word processing
documents, Lotus 123 spreadsheets and lots of other formats.  Remember that:
it can index and view the contents of .ZIP files.

The greatest drawback for use on the palmtop is the size of memory required
to run it (over 500 Kbytes).

Alan

>From:  David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
>Sent:  Monday, October 19, 1998 8:58 PM
>...
>My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and compression
>package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  The
>catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, 20MB, or
>even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
>this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
>compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less than
>the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)
>
>So, if anybody has any thoughts on how to do the indexing or compression,
>I'd be glad to hear them.  Once this is done, the source will be included,
>of course.  :)

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Hmm... Magellan sounds a little different than what I want to do.  What I
want to do is create a format like Norton Guides or Folio Views or
something like that, where you can search through reference materials
(dictaionaries, books, etc.) and have the searches be fast on the palmtop,
but still have the total size of the index and original text be much less
than the original text file's size.

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I use HDM daily as a GUI for one of my Software Carousel sessions, but I've
always found it time consuming to reorder the icons, espcially since I had all
my games and utilities in the same menu.

Then I realized, HDM will accept a data file as input when loading, so while
it doesn't support submenus (like SMMX) it is easily done anyway!

I copied my dosmgr.dat to games.dat and utils.dat, made two icons in the
dosmgr.dat called Games and Utils, with "dm c:\_dat\games.dat" as an example
file setting.  Then I cleared out all of my lesser used utilities and all of
the games from the main menu, then similar actions in the new 'submenus'.  Of
course, you'd want to disable the Topcard feature, at least on the
Submenu's.

So now I have a much cleaner and easily navigated HDM menu, and it's gonna be
a lot easier to add to it now!  When I added a utility, I was having to hit
'F7 Left Cursor Enter' about 25 times to get the icon where I wanted.  And I
have more options for hotkeys, since I'm not sharing them between utilities
and games.  I just hit G for games, F and Freecell, and when out of FreeCell
ESC gets me back to the main menu.

Perhaps this isn't new to everyone, but maybe some folks will get some use of
it.

Cheers!

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hope I am first Roy i will take itTx Roy

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:57:30 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and =
compression
>package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  The
>catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, 20MB, =
or
>even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
>this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
>compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less =
than
>the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)

I remember a series of articles in Dr Dobbs, maybe 8 or 10 years ago, =
about
a very powerful text searching program. I was fascinated but never got
around to trying it out. You may be able to search for info on their web
site.

--=20
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Team 200LX UK

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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:33:46 -0400, Rick Kozak wrote:

>A year ago, the consensus was that the built-in apps were required to =
make
>it appeal to the current HP200LX user. What I'm hearing now is that =
opinions
>have changed on this.

Sure, it would be nice to have them, but it wouldn't stop me buying an HP
form 486. It's the power in a small package that appeals to me. Anyway, =
I'm
sure someone would be able to come up with some similar apps if required =
-
none of them are particularly complex being DOS based.

--=20
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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> Sure, it would be nice to have them, but it wouldn't stop me buying an HP
> form 486. It's the power in a small package that appeals to me. Anyway, I'm
> sure someone would be able to come up with some similar apps if required -
> none of them are particularly complex being DOS based.

Are you saying DOS based programs are less complex than programs on other
systems?  TRYING TO START A FLAMEWAR, NEIL?



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>         How does a person quit a game like F15? Is CTRL ALT DEL the only
> way?

A suggestion: use mc to create two sessions. Run F15 in one of them.
If you can still switch between sessions, you should also be able
to quit without the three-fingered salute.


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I have a 200lx with early signs of a hinge crack.  It developed a very tight
hinge and lubrication has not seemed to help.  Does anyone know if a
replacement case can be purchased and if so how much?

Thanks.

Brad
bjohnson@platsoft.com

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> On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
> 200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)

My vote is for an IBM thinkpad pressure sensitive nipple (is that the
technical name for it?).



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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> My vote is for an IBM thinkpad pressure sensitive nipple (is that the
> technical name for it?).

Hey, this is a FAMILY mailing list, buddy!  

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Hi I was wondering if there is step by step instructions somewhere for
opening LX case?

TIA

Russell

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> >         How does a person quit a game like F15? Is CTRL ALT DEL the only
> > way?
>
> A suggestion: use mc to create two sessions. Run F15 in one of them.
> If you can still switch between sessions, you should also be able
> to quit without the three-fingered salute.

Or you could possibly run it from the SysMgr, which AFAIK also allows you
to terminate a DOS process.


Regards,

Laust

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              systemsconsulting@CSI.COM
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I think it is usually called "eraser" because it looks and feels like a
pencil eraser.




Thanks,

Paul Anderson
President
Systems Consulting
Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
89 Main Street
Broad Brook CT 06106-9701
860-627-5393 Voice/FAX
www.Systems-Consulting.com
;-)

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> On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
> 200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)

My vote is for an IBM thinkpad pressure sensitive nipple (is that the
technical name for it?).



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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:00:13 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>Are you saying DOS based programs are less complex than programs on =
other
>systems?  TRYING TO START A FLAMEWAR, NEIL?

Just that DOS is simpler than Windoze.

>

Noted ;-)

--=20
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Team 200LX UK

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Neil Tungate wrote:

> Just that DOS is simpler than Windoze.

Oh.  All right, then.  We'll let you off the hook.

> Noted ;-)

It's convenient to ignore them when accusing somebody of trying to start a
flamewar.  

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Subject:      Re: Touch pad for hplx? -> trackpoint

I think it's usually called a trackpoint. See, e.g.,

http://www4.zdnet.com/familypc/content/960916/fthw/mouse.html

"A trackpoint resembles a pencil eraser. To move the pointer, you press the
trackpoint in a particular direction -- though the trackpoint itself doesn't
move. The amount of pressure you apply determines the speed of the pointer."

Cheers,

- Joe

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I think it is usually called "eraser" because it looks and feels like a
pencil eraser.

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I'm in need of a portable printer to carry with me in case I need to do
some quick revisions and printings at school.  I've looked around and it
seems like the Pentax PocketJet and the Citizen PN60i are probably the
best bet.  So: does anybody have any experience with these?  Is there any
sort of agreement as to which is better?  It seems to me like the
PocketJet has a lower cost per page, but takes special paper, and the
PN60i has an infrared interface.

Does anybody know a low-cost source for either of the above printers?

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Hello palmtoppers,

Has anyone tried this card yet? I saw it at Fry's the other day and didn't =
have enough info from the box to feel comfortable taking it home, but =
their link (a GREAT datasheet, finally includes consupmtion figures)
http://www.socketcom.com/pdf/lpeds.pdf  has numbers that look good.

Any thoughts?

Bill Buzan

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
> > 200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)
>
> My vote is for an IBM thinkpad pressure sensitive nipple (is that the
> technical name for it?).

The nipple?!? I don't think I want to comment on the name...

I don't like IBM's invention. All of a sudden it simply refuses to do what
you want it to, no matter how hard you push it. It just gets stuck in the
lower right corner. It always does when I use it anyway...

A small trackball would be nicer on the LX. One that plugs onto the side
of the LX. I'm sure someone already uses this; I remember seeing pictures
of it...



Cheers,

Laust

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:42:01 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>Oh.  All right, then.  We'll let you off the hook.

Thanks.

BTW, just as I'm about to go to bed, you are no doubt enjoying the
afternoon sunshine - enjoy!

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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I have a small application that runs on the LX that I need to write some =
documentation for.  I would like to include screen shots of the program =
so that the user can readily associate the screens shots in the =
documentation with the actual computer screens.  The majority of the =
application uses the wide 40 column text mode for the information =
screens. Most of the screen capture programs I have tried can only =
capture graphics screens and not text.  If they do capture text modes =
they simply translate the text into ASCII or can only capture 80 =
columns.  I need a program that will give me a PCX files that looks just =
like the screen - dot for dot.  Know of any?  What do you guys, that =
write software, use to document your text screen on the LX?

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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Bill Buzan wrote:

> Has anyone tried this card yet? I saw it at Fry's the other day and
> didn't have enough info from the box to feel comfortable taking it
> home, but their link (a GREAT datasheet, finally includes consupmtion
> figures) http://www.socketcom.com/pdf/lpeds.pdf has numbers that look
> good.

I believe that Shier (www.shier.com) sells that card, and it works in the
200LX.  They have an enabler for it.  But I'm not positive-- it would
probably be good to ask them.  :)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:24:32 +0930
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              sender rwhitby@fraser.asc.corp.mot.com )
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Subject:      Release the source! (Was: 640KB mem barrier, games too fast, etc.)
Comments: cc: Feher Tamas 
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Feher Tamas  writes:
>     There was an argument here, that those developing free SW for
>     the LX should release the code as well. I bet, some of those
>     who do not release the source have good reasons to spare it.
>     Like others using it for malicious purposes or if they simply
>     too busy to properly comment the code. Releasing uncommented
>     code (most source C and ASM) is bad, very few people could
>     understand the inner working that way.

I was the one who made that argument.  Can you please expand on your
statement that the source code can be used for malicious purposes ?  I
would think that having the source code is safer, because you can read
it and make sure that someone hasn't put some malicious code in there.
In some cases, you can even read it and then compile it yourself -
thereby eliminating the possibility of someone putting a virus in the
executable before you get it.

As to your statement about people not being able to understand the
inner workings - why don't you let the reader decide ?  How do you
know who will and who won't be able to gain some knowledge from your
code ?

Releasing uncommented code is not bad!  It may not be as useful as
commented code, but software developers can understand code with no
comments at all - and these are the people who will be writing new
applications for your palmtop.

*Release the source code if you are not selling your HP200LX program!*

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On 10-20 05:58pm, the following was written:

> I have a small application that runs on the LX that I need to write some d
umentation for.  I would like to include screen shots of the program so that
e user can readily associate the screens shots in the documentation with the
tual computer screens.  The majority of the application uses the wide 40 col
n text mode for the information screens. Most of the screen capture programs
have tried can only capture graphics screens and not text.  If they do captu
 text modes they simply translate the text into ASCII or can only capture 80
lumns.  I need a program that will give me a PCX files that looks just like
e screen - dot for dot.  Know of any?  What do you guys, that write software
use to document your text screen on the LX?

Get Grabber from the S.U.P.E.R. site, it works great on the LX!

73 Jeff


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On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Get Grabber from the S.U.P.E.R. site, it works great on the LX!
>

What I really want is a "WYSIWYG grabber" that will dump precisely what
you see on screen (including custom fonts, zoom modes, etc.) to a file.
Will Grabber allow this?


Regards,

Laust

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
> > 200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)
>
> My vote is for an IBM thinkpad ........

Trackpoint

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> What I really want is a "WYSIWYG grabber" that will dump precisely what
> you see on screen (including custom fonts, zoom modes, etc.) to a file.
> Will Grabber allow this?

Yup, go to S.U.P.E.R. and look at the screen shot for the program STS
Orbit, I used Grabber for it.

73 Jeff

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> Would we really need the HP apps?  Once you have a 486 class machine in
> your pocket, there is a wealth of software available to reproduce the
> built-in apps. We could even load up Linux or OS/2 to choice, with a
> decent > sized amount of RAM or flash card.
>

I for one would sorely miss the built-in pims, the alarm/appt
particularly.  It comes alive, warns and goes back to sleep.  There are
not many applications that can serve that purpose.  The Toshiba lacks
that ability which is why folks still carry around their HP200's.  It is
not just a computer but one that serves multiple functions.

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01h33m18s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:


> What I really want is a "WYSIWYG grabber" that will dump precisely what
> you see on screen (including custom fonts, zoom modes, etc.) to a file.
> Will Grabber allow this?

Is this what your looking for?

> Name: caplx103.zip
>
> Author: Hiroyuki Sekiya
>
> Note: CAPLX is a DOS TSR program for capturing the HP 100/200LX
> screen and storing the graphic data as a PCX file.
> Copyrighted freeware.

     OR

> Name: grabbr.zip
>
> Author: Jerry Monroe
>
> Note: A good DOS utility to grab graphics screens on the
> palmtop. Freeware.

     OR for SysMan Apps (just to be complete)

> Name: caps100.zip
>
> Author: Hiroyuki Sekiya
>
> Note: CAPSYS is a tool for capturing a screen in the System
> Manager and saving it as a file in PCX format. This is
> not a TSR so it consumes no low RAM. Copyrighted
> freeware.

from S.U.P.E.R. of course!


Cheers,

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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> > On the other hand, it might be better if somebody just came up with a
> > 200LX-specific touchpad, like Shier and the Newton keyboard.  :)
>
> My vote is for an IBM thinkpad pressure sensitive nipple (is that the
> technical name for it?).
>
> Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au        Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
>  Law thesis (pdf, ps)            www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html
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> Hello palmtoppers,
>
> http://www.socketcom.com/pdf/lpeds.pdf  has numbers that look good.
>

Word is that if it is the new one, it works and even drivers are
available for it.  Available from Shier Software, I believe.

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There's a new product available to compete with the Libretto.

Metrobook is a US Govt. supplier, makes a rugged machine and has a
Libretto-like product.

See this at:  http://www.metrobook.com/

Look for the Metrobook SLT

P200mmx - 32MB - 2Gb - 8.4" Active Matrix Touch Screen - 20X Cd - 56K
modem - 2.9lbs - Retail $1899.00

AND 24/7 toll-free support

I think I'll cancel my Libretto 100 and get this one.



Thanks,

Paul Anderson
President
Systems Consulting
Maximizing the Results of Information Systems
89 Main Street
Broad Brook CT 06106-9701
860-627-5393 Voice/FAX
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interlaced replies below!
     -James, N9XLC
     -jrhall@globalsite.net
     -certified NERD
>------------------------------
>>>
>>> Have a look at the AMD Elan300/400 chipset. Two chips provide everything
>you
>>> need for a palmtop including IrDA, lcd panel, pcmcia etc. etc. support.
>AND
>>> it is a 386/486 based family. If I was building a replacement for the
>200LX,
>>> that would be my choice for the platform.
>>
>>Two chips might be one too many to keep the same size. When I looked
>>at the board the lack of room is pretty impressive. You might be
>>able to add some room by making the whole assembly thicker--by
>>moving one of the chips to the back of the video.

awhile back I remember seeing a 386 palmtop about the size of a case for a
pair of glasses (I think)

>
>I've not opened up my 200, so I can't say for sure. However, The AMD
chipset
>can be had in the thinnest surface mount packages available - 1.4mm thick.
>So, mount one on either side of a 0.5mm board, plunk down some equally
thick
>memory (1-2 chips) and you've got a complete system, in a 75mm x 150mm x
>3.3mm space (conservatively). The overriding factor would be the PCMCIA
slot
>hardware size and the other connectors.
>
>>And the other
>>question--are they low power enough to run on a couple AA's for
>>3 weeks? I think the minimum clock speed for a 486 is 25 mhz which
>>is almost twice the speed of a 186 so if the power consumtion is
>>proportional (which it shouldn't be) you'll have another 25% degradation
>>over the 2X 200LX which would be too much.
>
>Again, I don't have information on the power required by the Hornet
chipset,
>but I would bet that it actually consumes less power. The reason the CE
>machines seem to gobble up more power - besides backlights, flashing LEDs,
>speaker, etc. - is that CE just plain requires more cycles to do something
>than DOS. Just displaying a character in text mode vs. graphics mode
>probably takes 100x the processor cycles. This comes from experience
writing
>CE video drivers.
>
>>By redesigning
>>the battery compartment and charging circuit it would be possible
>>to use the 3000 mAh NiMH AA batteries that are out there. They are larger
>>by far, two of them are the same length as the entire 200LX,
>>so that would leave less room for other components. And then there's
>>heat. With a faster cpu would the present nonexistant venting work?
>>The cpu would get hotter, the charging circuit would have to put
>>out more current--the PC110 works pretty well but its a larger
>>machine and the battery life is really poor so the chips are using
>>way too much current.
>
>A modern processor running DOS will run cooler and longer than the Hornet,
>in my opinion. Also, the whole system can be run from 3.3v. So, I don't
>think battery redesign and heat will be an issue. But, if you wanted it to
>run LONGER, well that's another story.
>
>>
>>The perfect 200LX--same case and keyboard, super low power 486DX
>>hornet chip running at 25-30 MHZ, non-proprietary pcmcia type II,
>>at least 2.1, same current, IRDA, usb port, a docking
>>port for external keyboard, video--present screen is nice--backlighting
>>could be added but not essential, CGA, programmable battery
>>charging--at about 3,4X current, with battery compartment
>>redesigned for larger batteries.
>
>I would really like VGA to give me software compatibility with even more
DOS
>stuff. And the lack of a backlight is probably the only reason I still use
>my CE machines on occassion.
>
>>OS and built-in software in flash ROM, DR-DOS with built-in multi-
>>tasking kernal in ROM, at least 32 MB ramdisk. It would be nice
>>if the main chips--cpu,rom,ram were socketed.
>
>socketing blows the form factor. You've just quadrupled the thickness.
>
>>Extendable components
>>could be done through docking. Same battery life with alkyline
>>AA batteries. XT. One outlet AC adapter, universal input. Geeze,
>>when it's all typed out it almost looks possible. Of course
>>there's more like DR-DOS could be modified to 32 bit and to use
>>HPFS. Get rid of FAT.
>>
>
>
>Of course it is all possible. What it requires is not new technology, but
>the will and financial resources to do it.
>
>On the previous go-round, we assumed that a new case would be required, and
>that was a problem due to $$. We also assumed that we'd have to recreate
the
>built-in apps, and that was a bigger problem due to $$$ and even more time
>(although if we had started then, we'd be done by now :-)
>
>If we could scoop the ROMs legally then that solves one problem. If we
could
>reuse the case, then that solves another. Now we're looking at maybe
$75,000
>worth of engineering to make up a new board and interface it with the
>existing hardware. Not so expensive, huh? And then of course, someone like
>Mack would be required to do the actual surgery on the unit, and it might
>take $400 of labor to disconnect and reconnect (remember, I haven't looked
>inside). The board itself would probably cost $250 in small quantity.
>
>So, if there were 100 people interested in this upgrade, they would each
>need to pay $1400 for it. 1000 people would need to pay $700 each (the
board
>gets cheaper). 10,000 would need to pay $600 (I'd swallow the development
>costs with that many preorders, and the board gets cheaper still :-) But it
>won't get any cheaper than that, and nobody is getting rich on this.
>
>But before anyone says "but there's a market for millions, I just know it"
>I'll say that that might be true. However, to reach that market, you'd have
>to spend $1,000,000 (one full page color ad in PC Magazine = $50,000 last I
>checked, which means I can place only 20 of those if I don't spend any
money
>on having somebody actually make the ad or the salary of a sales person
etc.
>etc. :-), so now how much will the cost of an upgrade be??? At the 10,000
>level, we're now up to $700 and the risk is substantially higher because
>much more $$ are put up front.
>
>Still interested, anyone? How about you, Hal? Wanna roll some big dice :-)
>
>rick
>
wonder if it'd be possible to replace the components in my ti-85 with a 286
sbc? :P
student->teacher "no really, this is just a graphing calculator!"

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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:17:11 -0400
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>
>*Release the source code if you are not selling your HP200LX program!*
>

If anyone wants the source for the Palmtop Periodic Table, or MPG Tracker,
I'll send it to you. Just don't tell me how bad my C programming is. :)
And, if you add to it, change it and/or make it better, keep it freeware.

Best Regards,
Owen

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Owen Samuelson  writes:
> If anyone wants the source for the Palmtop Periodic Table, or MPG Tracker,
> I'll send it to you. Just don't tell me how bad my C programming is. :)
> And, if you add to it, change it and/or make it better, keep it freeware.

Thank you Owen for helping to further the common knowledge of HP200LX
developers, and for helping the HP200LX survive just that little bit
longer.

I certainly agree with your statement that it is best to release
source on the condition that it is used for freeware.  If anyone is
interested in this topic, see http://www.opensource.org/ for more
details of big companies that have decided to release source code
(including Netscape).

Owen, may I add your name to the HP200LX source code home page
(http://rwhitby.home.ml.org/lxsource.html) so that any future HP200LX
developers can contact you for the source code to your freeware
applications ?

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In message <3.0.1.32.19981020221711.00696cd8@pop.hom.net>, owensam@HOM.NET said:
> >
> >*Release the source code if you are not selling your HP200LX program!*
> >
>
> If anyone wants the source for the Palmtop Periodic Table, or MPG Tracker,

I use the PPT. If thats bad I'd love to see the good stuff

> I'll send it to you. Just don't tell me how bad my C programming is. :)
> And, if you add to it, change it and/or make it better, keep it freeware.
>
> Best Regards,
> Owen
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Owen Samuelson wrote:
>
> If anyone wants the source for the Palmtop Periodic Table, or MPG Tracker,
> I'll send it to you. Just don't tell me how bad my C programming is. :)
> And, if you add to it, change it and/or make it better, keep it freeware.

I'm with Rod and Owen.  I'll post the C source for my (small and pathetic
thus far) applications to my web site.

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I would start with the decompression. Simtel DOS has source code in
ASM and C (in the arcutil and compress directories).
PKZIP is in assembler and it decompresses less than 30K / sec.
on a normal speed LX.
A linear search goes at about 60K per second.
If you divide your file into 15 parts, decompress and search
only one part, I would guess 3 sec. to search a 1 meg file
(neglecting the time to load, decompress, and search the index).

David Sargeant wrote:
My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and compression

> package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  The
> catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, 20MB, or
> even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
> this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
> compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less than
> the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)

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I have a Transcend Flash memory: 8 Mg
model TS8MFLASH,
Is someone  know how to use it wit the LX.
Thanx
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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>My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and
compression
>package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  The
>catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, 20MB, =
or
>even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
>this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
>compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less th=
an
>the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)
>
>So, if anybody has any thoughts on how to do the indexing or compression=
,
>I'd be glad to hear them.  Once this is done, the source will be include=
d,
>of course.  :)

You will need a super-fast diskbased index. Look for "extendible
hashing" or "dynamic hashing" in a data structures book. My books on
data structures are becoming a bit outdated but for example Tenenbaum
and Augenstein: Data structures using Pascal gives the basic strategy. I
played with it a long time ago and it is extremely fast.

Jorgen



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Hi all!  Got a couple questions about Software Carousel.
First off, anyone know where there are some screen shots
of this I can look at?  If not, can someone running it send
me a couple?  Second... where can I get it?  I searched
the web and found lots of hits, but there were several
companies listed as owning it, and none of the links were
active.  I'm getting tired of Error 404.  Heh! :)   Thanks!

Brian S
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David Sargeant  writes:
> Owen Samuelson wrote:
> > If anyone wants the source for the Palmtop Periodic Table, or MPG Tracker,
> > I'll send it to you. Just don't tell me how bad my C programming is. :)
> > And, if you add to it, change it and/or make it better, keep it freeware.
>
> I'm with Rod and Owen.  I'll post the C source for my (small and pathetic
> thus far) applications to my web site.

Excellent!  Who else is going to join us on the OpenSource crusade ?

Here's some freeware HP200LX applications that I use daily, and for
which I'd personally love to see the source code:

LxCic, Batset, ClipVue, HDM, LxPic, LxStat, MaxDOS, PNS200, vclock.

Think of the tips, tricks and techniques we could glean from these gems!

Why don't the authors of these programs release the source code under
the condition that any changes remain freeware and have to be sent
back to them for possible inclusion ?  Don't they realise that by
their inaction they're helping to kill the HP200LX ?  Don't they
realise that I'd love to help them improve their programs ?

I'd also love to see the source to PalEdit (but maybe D&A want to make
some money off it in the future - any they have my best wishes if they
do, cause we need all the commercial vendors we can get).

Here's the applications to which authors have released source, and I
have had the occasion to modify it to meet my needs (always sending it
back to the author for possible inclusion - which has often ended up
with the author asking me to maintain them cause they have moved on to
other things):

KeyStuff (converted from HP100LX to HP200LX keybindings)
QVRemote (added the facility to download/upload PPM format pictures)
PNR (modified it to work with LXPOP/LXNNTP)
MoreEXM (used some of the techniques for ExmBatch)

Without the source to PNR & MoreEXM, some of my tools (LXTCP,
ExmBatch) would never have been written.

Of course an email on source code and development must include a big
thanks to the PAL team, the NKIT developer, and the WatTCP developer!

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        Hello all,

    I think for AMD ELAN considerations, take a look at portable
    data/barcode readers, like the Percon Falcon. It's a 386/25
    with 1xPCMCIA 2.1 TypeII, a laser scanner and LCD+kbd.
    It runs on 3xAA Nicads. The ELAN autoclocks 1-25MHz.

    What makes it bad is the chiclet keyboard with damn bad layout
    and the 28x16 chars display. It runs ROM DOS, but the small
    screen makes this device nearly unusable. LCD has backlight
    but I think battery life is more like 5hrs than 15 claimed.

    Or look at the Nokia9000/9110 Communicator hardware. That's
    a 386 too. Someone open up one and see, if something could
    be used/transplanted to a 700LX case. That runs GEOS.
    I think it's a real chance. Many wrote here about major
    surgery, crafting new MOBO for their LX. I wonder if that
    is possible without industrial background. But using ready
    building blocks looks promising.

    One of you wrote about a PCMCIA card sized full PC. That won't
    help the HPLX as PCMCIA is not busmaster! I bet that device will
    have CardBusCard interface instead. A non-busmaster interface
    would allow only for a network; meaning you can run CPU-intensive
    tasks on the "server" (the PCMCIA card). A network in palmsize!
    But that will be two separete computers, not one; cannot serve as
    Hornet CPU replacement for the HPLX. Also takes up the slot.

    I see, many dislike eraser-head. Also consider same device by
    Toshiba, who cover the stick with a flat rubber button, so you
    cannot press it too hard. IMHO piezo-electric is the only small
    enough footprint pointer for use in palm devices.

    Who wrote about starting Lxix / ELKS? To him: do you have info
    on ELKS advances? Their homepage at redhat has not been updated
    for months, I thought they quit.

    Bonus: Strange question. Seems like users love their LX to death.
    I'd think its designers were enthusiasts as well. How come that
    none of them appear here? Were they all banned from public?
    Do you actually know names from the team that designed the HPLX?
    Do they work for WinCE now?

                Thank for the attention, sincerely:
                                                      Tamas Feher.

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Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:50:46 -0400 (EDT)

12h56m13s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Rod Whitby wrote:

> *Release the source code if you are not selling your HP200LX program!*

I agree - If anyone wants the Forth source code for Charge-It! I'll
send it along...  Same conditions as Owen (keep your modifications as
freeware!  Oh - and use a different name.)

Also HP-Pygmy Forth already includes all its own source code, and
includes a metacompiler so it can be modified by the user.  Thanks to
Frank Sergeant for providing an open language.  8-)   BTW - the
palmtop-specific extensions are all open as well.

-Peniel
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On Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:45:59 -0400, Peniel Romanelli  wrote:

>>Well - if wince fits the way you use a palmtop, then it's right for
you.

<<

Ýpart of thoughtful rant deleted¨

>>What I find obnoxious isn't wince or wince users, it's the
notion of wince as the REPLACEMENT for DOS as a palmtop
OS.<<

You are preaching to the choir. And it's been a while since
people were led to believe that WinCe is a replacement for
or successor to DOS. In the minds of the mass market, DOS was
dead before the palmtop.

>>Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.<<

Red herring. Just because you and I need a more "open" or
"versatile"  OS than WinCe doesn't rule it out as an OS. And
the Libretto won't replace MY 200lx because I need more than
an operating system. I need the right package. Remember, it's
a personal choice.

Stop believing the marketing hype and making accusations
about what WinCE can't do. Start preaching to the masses
about what your palmtop CAN do.

>>*** DOS Forever! ***<<

Unless I can get UN*X to run on the palmtop (g).

*** Palmtops Forever! ***

>>  <<

{stepping down from the soapbox ....)

Conrad Cox   San Francisco Palmtop User Group
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www.palmtoppaper.com

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>     Bonus: Strange question. Seems like users love their LX to death.
>     I'd think its designers were enthusiasts as well. How come that
>     none of them appear here? Were they all banned from public?
>     Do you actually know names from the team that designed the HPLX?
>     Do they work for WinCE now?
>

They were a wonderful bunch of bright, charged-up individuals.  Their
pictures are hidden in the palmtop.  I can't remember now how to see
them but it was in the Maze game.  I believe that many have left HP or
been dispersed.  Win-ce was a completely new design team over in
Singapore.   And MS dictated a lot of what went into the machine and
what was not allowed.

And the message from Conrad was right.   There are quite a few folks who
don't want and need this powerful a palmtop.  They only need win-ce and
they did need the syncing the 200 fell behind on.  HP did not want to do
software.  Transfile is not their product but they adopted it.  Once
third parties abandoned the syncing stuff more problems occurred.

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>    One of you wrote about a PCMCIA card sized full PC. That won't
>    help the HPLX as PCMCIA is not busmaster! I bet that device will
>    have CardBusCard interface instead. A non-busmaster interface

The Card PC's, unfortunately are not PCMCIA compatible and use their own
interface pinout as well as form factor. The pinouts are actually along what we
would consider to be the side of a PCMCIA card.

Cheers,
Mack

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It might pay to look into the old mini-trackballs (if you can still find
them) that used to be popular as clip-ons to notebook computers before they
all had built-in pointers.

Microspeed   MicroTRAC
Appoint   Thumbelina
Logitech   Trackman Portable
AST   SmartPOint
Mouse Systems   NewPoint

Some of these are still available (and come with DOS drivers).  Check out
http://www.questecmouse.com and look at MousePen, Thumbelina, Gulliver, and
The Tracker (also spelled Trakker).

>Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:02:35 +0200
>From: Laust Brock-Nannestad 
>...
>A small trackball would be nicer on the LX. One that plugs onto the side
>of the LX. I'm sure someone already uses this; I remember seeing pictures
>of it...

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>>>Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
>functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.<<
>


But, it can. Just because a specific implementation of WinCE does not offer
that feature does not mean that EVERY implementation of WinCE CANNOT have
that feature.

What M$ has done right with WinCE is to allow significant modularity. I can
construct a WinCE OS image without the GUI, but with networking support, and
stick it in an industrial controller if I want. I only need to take the
pieces that are of interest to me. And if there's a piece missing for some
hardware I must have, then there's a well defined method of creating and
communicating with custom drivers.

In its own way, DOS is modular as well, in that if you don't want to provide
a function, you just don't ship the .com or .exe file that implemented that
external function. But, DOS does assume a minimum of hardware that is a
superset of what WinCE assumes. The other flavors of Windows are definitely
NOT modular in the same way. They assume a great deal about the system they
will run on top of.

rick

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Maybe, but in my reading it's 15% longer, 35% wider and 65% deeper than
the L1000, so I'm not sure it's a very direct comparison...

Systems Consulting wrote:
>
> There's a new product available to compete with the Libretto.
>
> Metrobook is a US Govt. supplier, makes a rugged machine and has a
> Libretto-like product.
>
> See this at:  http://www.metrobook.com/
>
> Look for the Metrobook SLT
>
...

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        Hello all,

    I know that CardBus Card is only downward compatible with PCMCIA.
    And looks like its much less popular than planned to be.

    My PCMCIA idea: why no null-modem out there? I mean a pair of
    cards cabled together that do nothing, but allow data transfer
    a magnitude faster than modem or serial/parallel.

    Touchpad underside: wonder if that should operate in relative
    (mouseish) or absolute (digitizer pad) coordinate mode? Also
    you will have 6-8 fingers underside: how will it know which of
    all fingers that might touch the pad underside incidentally;
    should be considered a real request to move the cursor?

    Also if folding, you will have to mirror movement when open
    or folded onto underside. But that's the smallest problem.

    Question: are there dummy PCMCIA cards; made of plastic that
    can be plugged into an empty slot and serve as internal mecha-
    nical reinforcement for the LX case?

    I visited  - call itself Japanese Palmtop Direct
    and sells Libretto & LifeBook and more. Some authority should
    finally make up clear nomenclature, these are not palmtops!
    I think credit card, palmtop, handheld, sub-subnotebook,
    subnotebook, notebook, laptop, luggagable; that is at least
    eight categories needed to properly differentiate among the
    non-desktop computers. Not easy and manufacturers cheat.
    (That does not affect my opinon on how good that page was -
     both content and execution are excellent, very informative).

                Sincerely:  Tamas Feher.

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Hi Conrad & group--

If my DOS/Wince rant offended you, I apologize...  But I'm an
opinionated old (well - middle aged) coot, and I'm not about to muzzle
my opinions...

02h06m36s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Conrad Cox wrote:

> And it's been a while since people were led to believe that WinCe
> is a replacement for or successor to DOS.

The attitude of the mass market wasn't my point.  The replacement (or
elimination) of DOS is the decision of the manufacturer (HP).  Of
course it depends on the market.

>> it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.<<
>
> Red herring. Just because you and I need a more "open" or
> "versatile"  OS than WinCe doesn't rule it out as an OS.

Hmmm - let's just agree to disagree about that  8-)

> the Libretto won't replace MY 200lx---

Mine either.  My point was only that as long as wince machines need to
work in conjunction with "real" WinDoze machines, it seems (to this
opinionated guy) to make more sense to combine WinDoze with the form
factor of wince than to use two separate systems.

> Remember, it's a personal choice.

Thought I said something like that.  If not I agree.  Now to convince
HP to continue to develop DOS palmtops so we can KEEP our freedom of
choice.

> Start preaching to the masses about what your palmtop CAN do.

Well now, I try to do that.  Lots of folks seem fascinated by my 200LX,
until they find out it's not wince - they lose interest as soon as they
hear "DOS".

> *** Palmtops Forever! ***

I'll drink to that  8-)

Or how about:

*** Palmtop CHOICE Forever ***

-Peniel
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Subject:      Re: PCMCIA/CardBus and touchpad: several responses
Comments: cc: Feher Tamas 

> Question: are there dummy PCMCIA cards; made of plastic that
> can be plugged into an empty slot and serve as internal mecha-
> nical reinforcement for the LX case?

I have a couple that came either with new 200LXes or new OmniGos (don't
remember which). They were actually little adverts telling you that backing
up to a memory card is a better backup policy than just crossing your
fingers.

- Joe

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In message <68AE7F35CE@sc.bme.hu>, E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU said:
>         Hello all,
>
>     I think for AMD ELAN considerations, take a look at portable
>     data/barcode readers, like the Percon Falcon. It's a 386/25
>     with 1xPCMCIA 2.1 TypeII, a laser scanner and LCD+kbd.
>     It runs on 3xAA Nicads. The ELAN autoclocks 1-25MHz.
>
>     What makes it bad is the chiclet keyboard with damn bad layout
>     and the 28x16 chars display. It runs ROM DOS, but the small
>     screen makes this device nearly unusable. LCD has backlight
>     but I think battery life is more like 5hrs than 15 claimed.
>
>     Or look at the Nokia9000/9110 Communicator hardware. That's
>     a 386 too. Someone open up one and see, if something could
>     be used/transplanted to a 700LX case. That runs GEOS.
>     I think it's a real chance. Many wrote here about major
>     surgery, crafting new MOBO for their LX. I wonder if that
>     is possible without industrial background. But using ready
>     building blocks looks promising.
>
>     One of you wrote about a PCMCIA card sized full PC. That won't
>     help the HPLX as PCMCIA is not busmaster! I bet that device will
>     have CardBusCard interface instead. A non-busmaster interface
>     would allow only for a network; meaning you can run CPU-intensive
>     tasks on the "server" (the PCMCIA card). A network in palmsize!
>     But that will be two separete computers, not one; cannot serve as
>     Hornet CPU replacement for the HPLX. Also takes up the slot.
>
>     I see, many dislike eraser-head. Also consider same device by
>     Toshiba, who cover the stick with a flat rubber button, so you
>     cannot press it too hard. IMHO piezo-electric is the only small
>     enough footprint pointer for use in palm devices.
>
>     Who wrote about starting Lxix / ELKS? To him: do you have info
>     on ELKS advances? Their homepage at redhat has not been updated
>     for months, I thought they quit.
>
>     Bonus: Strange question. Seems like users love their LX to death.
>     I'd think its designers were enthusiasts as well. How come that
>     none of them appear here? Were they all banned from public?
>     Do you actually know names from the team that designed the HPLX?
>     Do they work for WinCE now?
>
>                 Thank for the attention, sincerely:
>                                                       Tamas Feher.
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I'm glad to see others are interested in this thread.  I was the =
individual that originally started the thread and am still looking for a =
solution.  The three suggestions that AL made are good but have =
weaknesses.

1) Grabber does graphics but will only do text in 80 column mode.  The =
text output uses the generic system font. =20

2) CAPLX while being designed for the LX will only capture a graphics =
screen but no text.

3) CAPSYS was designed for capturing a screen while in the System =
Manager.  Most of my programs are run in DOS.

Laust hit it on the head when he requested a grabber that takes into =
account custom fonts, zoom modes etc.  Capturing graphics screens are =
easily done because each pixtel address is available for inspection.  In =
text mode pixel information is not given.  The only information that is =
readily available is the character code at a particular position on the =
screen.  The job of pixel generation is left up to the display =
controller that combines the character code with font information to =
produce the character we see on the screen.

What we need is a program that can give us a pixel by pixel layout of =
the screen while in text mode.  My guess is that calls will need to be =
made to a display controller that can read back each pixel.  Just a =
guess.  Does anybody know if the display controller in the LX will tell =
us the condition of the pixel while in text mode?


-----Original Message-----
From:   Al Kind ÝSMTP:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨
Sent:   Tuesday, October 20, 1998 7:13 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: How do you capture the screen in 40 column text mode?

01h33m18s ago ...
On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:


> What I really want is a "WYSIWYG grabber" that will dump precisely =
what
> you see on screen (including custom fonts, zoom modes, etc.) to a =
file.
> Will Grabber allow this?

Is this what your looking for?

> Name: caplx103.zip
>
> Author: Hiroyuki Sekiya
>
> Note: CAPLX is a DOS TSR program for capturing the HP 100/200LX
> screen and storing the graphic data as a PCX file.
> Copyrighted freeware.

     OR

> Name: grabbr.zip
>
> Author: Jerry Monroe
>
> Note: A good DOS utility to grab graphics screens on the
> palmtop. Freeware.

     OR for SysMan Apps (just to be complete)

> Name: caps100.zip
>
> Author: Hiroyuki Sekiya
>
> Note: CAPSYS is a tool for capturing a screen in the System
> Manager and saving it as a file in PCX format. This is
> not a TSR so it consumes no low RAM. Copyrighted
> freeware.

from S.U.P.E.R. of course!


Cheers,

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Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:17:55 -0400 (EDT)

01h15m15s ago ...
On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Rick Kozak wrote:

> >>>Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
>
> But, it can. Just because a specific implementation of WinCE does not =
offer
> that feature does not mean that EVERY implementation of WinCE CANNOT =
have
> that feature.

OK that's good news.  I stand corrected on this point.  8-)

Now if at least one manufacturer of wince machines (are you reading
this list HP?) will use an implementation that's stand-alone instead
of making another "PC-Companion"...  I wouldn't trade in my 200LX, but
at least that type of wince device would really be a "Handheld PC".

-Peniel
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:29:51 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Re: Touch pad for hplx?

I remember someone on the list actually rewired a small touch pad and said
he used if with "fingerpaint" ... sounded cool to me.

Since I can get my hands on a trackball or two, do those that recommend
trying this use the HP serial cable Ýto convert from the HP square serial
connector to the 9-pin d-shaped critter¨?

Just curious,

--tim


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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:40:39 -0500
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Subject:      Fotoman camera transfer

Hi all.
I'm a long time list lurker in digest mode. I'm trying to do something I
haven6t heard anyone talk about.  Maybe someone can help.

I've obtained (for free) the OLD Logitech Fotoman camera.  This was one of
the first mass marketed (read cheap) digital cameras.  It was primarily
designed to work in Windows 3.1 but Logitec also furnished some DOS software
that allows DOS transfer of images between the camera and computer. In this
DOS software all you can do is transfer images and clear the camera. My plan
was to do this transfer directly between the 200lx and the camera, and then
view the pictures with lxpic. (the output of the camera is JPG format, and I
have viewed these pictures on the 200lx).  I've gotten the DOS software to
work perfectly on a desktop machine,  I can perform all the functions the
software allows.  I have the software loaded on my 200lx but I can't connect
to the camera.  I think I must be forgetting something about communicating
thru the 200lx.  The connection is thru the serial port.  I've used my HP
cable connected to the Logitech cable via a gender changer.  I've tried
changing the com ports, and any other variables I can think of when I'm in
system manager, but do these changes keep when I terminate sys manager and
work thru plain DOS?? I can't run the program while sys manager is running
because there isn't enough room.  I think I must be forgetting how to
manipulate the communications in  DOS
Any help on this will be really apprciated.


John

via my HP 200LX Palmtop
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED

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I'm interested in finding out if anyone is using HTML with graphics to
exchange data between the HP and MS word. If so, What HTML viewer are
you using on the palmtop?

Does anyone know if there are converters for winword 1.1 or word for dos
5.5 that work with HTML which has graphics?

Does RTF exchange of documents with graphics work between word 97 and
word for DOS 5.5 or winword 1.1a?

Any other suggestion for moving word documents to the palmtop that have
graphics in them?

Thanks,
Brenda

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

>         Hello all,

Howdy!

>     One of you wrote about a PCMCIA card sized full PC. That won't
>     help the HPLX as PCMCIA is not busmaster! I bet that device will
>     have CardBusCard interface instead. A non-busmaster interface
>     would allow only for a network; meaning you can run CPU-intensive
>     tasks on the "server" (the PCMCIA card). A network in palmsize!
>     But that will be two separete computers, not one; cannot serve as
>     Hornet CPU replacement for the HPLX. Also takes up the slot.

On this note, I saw a side note in the SDK when I was reading it a while
ago that suggested that one could disable the internal CPU (the 186) and
turn the PCMCIA lines into external processor lines.  Now, I'm not sure if
all the necessary lines go directly to the PCMCIA slot, so it might not be
feasible to make a 486-on-a-card for the 200, at least not without a)
perhaps some motherboard modification, and b) the loss of the PCMCIA slot.

>     I see, many dislike eraser-head. Also consider same device by
>     Toshiba, who cover the stick with a flat rubber button, so you
>     cannot press it too hard. IMHO piezo-electric is the only small
>     enough footprint pointer for use in palm devices.

Me, I like the more sensitive Touchpoint-ish thingy found on the Libretto.
The placement of the pointer would be  trouble on the 200LX, where there
is a tiny amount of space at the edges of the screen; probably not enough
to mount an onboard pointer.

>     Who wrote about starting Lxix / ELKS? To him: do you have info
>     on ELKS advances? Their homepage at redhat has not been updated
>     for months, I thought they quit.

For clarification, LXix will be more of a custom distribution of Linux-86
(ELKS).  It will probably run an ELKS kernel, and if someone else has made
a gcc port for ELKS, we'll be good to go.

Notice I say *will be*.  As the originator of the idea and the person that
made that really cool word ("LXix") - I command ye all to bow down to the
.. well, just help me out if you can, eh? :)

Ian Butler 
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Do you have Buddy installed?  If so, you may have elected to have it lock
the serial port off to save power.  If so, the best thing to do is enter
Filer and press the "+" key until it reads "Serial On" in the top status
line.

If that's not it, you may have need for a crossover (or null-modem) in the
serial cable/adapter combination.  It's usually sufficient to change just
TxD and RxD.

Alan

>From:  John Jarosz ÝSMTP:jjarosz@INTERACCESS.COM¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:41 PM
>...
>I think I must be forgetting something about communicating
>thru the 200lx.  The connection is thru the serial port.  I've used my HP
>cable connected to the Logitech cable via a gender changer.  I've tried
>changing the com ports, and any other variables I can think of when I'm in
>system manager, but do these changes keep when I terminate sys manager and
>work thru plain DOS?? I can't run the program while sys manager is running
>because there isn't enough room.  I think I must be forgetting how to
>manipulate the communications in  DOS

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

>     Who wrote about starting Lxix / ELKS? To him: do you have info
>     on ELKS advances? Their homepage at redhat has not been updated
>     for months, I thought they quit.

Well, in my last message, I kinda got off on a tangent and forgot to
actually answer your question.  So, I figured I should probably do that.
Sooo... the ELKS project is not hosted at RedHat, but at www.linux.org.uk.
You'll find information there.  It appears to have been last updated
sometime in April; this isn't an abnormally long time.  Remember, the ELKS
project is a pretty tiny niche.  But as 200LXers, we have a duty to
get our feet firmly in this door.  Linux is a rapidly growing OS, and if
we can at least grab on to the tail end of their momentum, it'll be a Good
Thing.

Ian Butler 
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<>

Unfortunately I don't think it does as I have searched the Developers Guide in
vain for it.  The only thing you can do is to read in the characters and
translate them using the font table.

Cheers,
Mack

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Subject:      connecting OS/2 and the 200LX with zip

Hi

I used to use zip to transfer files between OS/2 and the 200LX
but I stopped using it. Now I need it again and for some reason
it won't transfer files. It sees the directories and files
ok on the 200lx but when I tell it to transfer it just sits there
with a ready on the screen. I have tried baud rates from 115000
to 2400 and have added a null modem adapter to the serial cable.
I can boot to dos to transfer with laplink but its a real pain
it takes a while to boot and reboot. Is anybody using zip that
might have any ideas? Thanks.

John

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:07:48 -0400
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>    My PCMCIA idea: why no null-modem out there? I mean a pair of
>    cards cabled together that do nothing, but allow data transfer
>    a magnitude faster than modem or serial/parallel.
>


what's wrong with Ethernet? To do a null modem for the entire 68pin
interface would involve either a 68 wire cable that could not be very long
because of noise, FCC, etc. issues, or using a serializing chipset. If you
serialize the data stream, you're looking an awful lot like a LAN from the
outside. And an existing LAN architecture has the advantage of having an
already existing infrastructure to connect to.

>    Touchpad underside: wonder if that should operate in relative
>    (mouseish) or absolute (digitizer pad) coordinate mode? Also
>    you will have 6-8 fingers underside: how will it know which of
>    all fingers that might touch the pad underside incidentally;
>    should be considered a real request to move the cursor?
>

The Newton had a pretty good touch screen, in that it could distinguish
between the diffuse pressure of your hand and the sharpish point of the pen.
You'd need something similar here, or you could just make it small enough
that you could keep your fingers off of it normally. then you can use
relative movement.

>    Question: are there dummy PCMCIA cards; made of plastic that
>    can be plugged into an empty slot and serve as internal mecha-
>    nical reinforcement for the LX case?


yes.

rick

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:19:16 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Mack Baggette wrote:

> < condition of the pixel while in text mode?>>
>
> Unfortunately I don't think it does as I have searched the Developers Guide in
> vain for it.  The only thing you can do is to read in the characters and
> translate them using the font table.

Wouldn't it be possible to make an intermediate solution? a TSR that
scanned each character position on the text screen (while taking into
account the zoom mode and the visible part of the screen), looked up the
graphical representation of the character it found at a given location and
saved that to a PCX (or whatever) file? Is it possible for a program to
look up the graphical definiton of the built-in medium and large fonts? If
so then this would give something at least close to the real thing.

Another option might be to try and run the text application from graphics
mode, however, this will certainly fail with some programs (but should
work with others).


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:04:14 -0500
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My wish list:
 - Screen expanded to fill lid, optional backlight
 - Retain DOS, apps. add a Carousel type task switching
 - Offer a keyboard you can (more or less) touch type on - this
     probably means no numeric keypad and one less row of keys
 - 4X faster
 - 4 meg memory, user upgradeable
 - Slimmer if possible
 - Keep what you've got: Worry free batteries, PCMCIA, HP quality,
    can serve as a stand-alone computer.

Psion just upgraded their Series 3 with an 3MX (see below) but:
 - 27 mhz x86, good battery life, but no DOS
 - 2 meg memory
 - SDD (not PCMCIA) memory cards that are expensive.

The only clear winner in the handheld market is the Pilot.
HP-LX, Psion, Sharp and ...  were doing OK until MS came in
and turned the market to mud for qwery key devices.
WinCE fails (for me):
 - NO instant on to, say, calendar. There is the time for Wince to
    boot, then the time to wade through P&S "user friendliness".
 - It is designed to be useless as a standalone, Win95 required.


Below is stuff on the Psion 3mx:

- Processor speed is 3.5 times faster and battery life according
  to the ad in Belgium from Psion plc is 40 hours.
- The Serial link runs now at 115Kb like the S5.
- There is a backlight like the S3c.
- There is infra-red, not working with a Series 5 but working well
  with another Series 3.
- The screen without the digitize layer needed for pen input is
   better than the S5 and is like the S3c screen. The S3a remains
   one of the best screen however, a bit better than the S3c.
All the rest is like the S3c.


While the S5 has a fancier user interface, the S3 actually
has more features.  The word processing has a thesaurus,
outlining, style sheets for characters, built-in calculator
(EVALUATE), RTF import and export as features which the S5
lacks.

The S3's spreadsheet has many features such as sorting, and
ability to ikport/export to various file formats which are
not found on the S5.

The S3's 3FAX software is far superior to the S5's faxing
ability, (cover pages, log file etc), although the S5 can
receive faxes.

The S5's internet sofwtare is far superior to the S3
though.  But I guess with a 3mx, the speed might be good
enough.


Yes...and we must dont forget that the S3MX like the S3a/c
includes in the build-in apps. support for PC file formats like
.RTF and .WK1....and the S5 dont...
So, the need for Desktop convertion isnt so important like with
the S5, we only need backup soft. like RCOM...
Hmmmm....time to replace my S5 with a S3MX


 Specification

 Processor

    * 16 bit NEC V30MX, 80C86 compatible,
      27.684 Mhz, embedded in custom ASIC

 Dimensions

    * 165mm x 85mm x 22mm (6.5" x 3.3" x 0.9")
    * 275g (9.7 ounces) including 2xAA batteries

 Internal Memory

    * ROM: 2Mbyte containing multi-tasking,
      windowing operating system, Microsoft
      MS-DOS Flash 2 Filing System, and software
      applications
    * RAM: 2Mb

 Plug-in Solid State Disk Memory

    * 2 drives for up to 16Mbytes storage (2 x
      8Mb)
    * MS-DOS format compatible with desktop PCs
    * Flash SSDs require no battery backup;
      capacity up to 8Mbytes
    * Ram SSDs have their own Lithium battery;
      capacity up to 1Mbyte

 Display

    * 480 x 160 graphics screen with grey scale,
      approx. A4 page width by 17 lines. Up to 80
      characters by 26 lines using the smallest
      mono-spaced font
    * 127 x 44 mm
    * High contrast, retardation film LCD with
      backlight.

 Keyboard

    * 58 key QWERTY computer style (AZERTY as
      appropriate)
    * 9 touch-sensitive keys for task selection

 Audio

    * Microphone loudspeaker and CODEC provide
      digital sound recording and playback with a
      sample rate of 8k per second, 8 bits wide
      (12 bits compressed to 8).
    * DTMF auto-dialling

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What we need is a program that can give us a pixel by pixel layout of the
screen while in text mode.  My guess is that calls will need to be made to a
display controller that can read back each pixel.  Just a guess.  Does
anybody know if the display controller in the LX will tell us the condition
of the pixel while in text mode?


-----

To do this you would have to:

1. read the current text mode info
2. read the font ROM
3. read the character code data in the video ram
4. code in the form of a TSR

mix together, and voila ;-)

Can be done... maybe tonight, you've piqued my curiosity. Unless, of course,
someone can find a program that's already done it before I have at it.

rick

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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Subject:      SC's Optimizer Question.

Hi all,

I'm one of those "rare individuals" who bought something and hasn't had time
to install it or make it work....   ;-)

I've had Super Software Carousel for a bit and haven't used it yet *BUT*
wanted to use the disk optimizer on my Times2Tech 32MB expansion and I can't
make it work...

It works fine on "C:" ÝI haven't swapped C: and G:¨ but goes through all but
the final step on the bigger drive.  I've booted w/ a stripped Autoexec.bat
to maximize the avail. low-memory.  But maybe it's still too much to address
for it to run in my avail. memory (585,104 bytes).  This is Disk optimizer
ver. 7.0.

It lets me select the drive, successfully (seems) to test the DMA and then
"Searches" the disk, says it's "Computing optimization strategy" then it
blinks back to the program's opening screen.  Is this normal?

How do the rest of you optimize your files?

TIA,

--tim


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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:17:56 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Double Slot and Times2 (doublespeed)

A different question:

I called the Accurite folks a few days ago about the double-slot device they
sell for the 200LX, they were very nice and VERY upfront about the fact that
"90 percent of those with double-speed upgrades can't use the device..."!

He said it had to do with the timing of the clock cycles and what their card
expected.  They were willing to sell me one and take it back, if it didn't
work (and KUDOS to them for being so up-front about this), but I wondered
what indicators I could find that I might be in the 10% of those who could
use this attachment successfully.

Anyone have any experience with this one?

TIA

--tim


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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:28:21 -0400
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Stan Peters said:
>My wish list:
>...
> - Offer a keyboard you can (more or less) touch type on - this probably
means no numeric keypad and one less row of keys

Funny, but for me, eliminating the numeric keypad to allow for touch typing
is a step in the wrong direction.  My very first reaction to the original HP
Windows CE machines back in January of 1997 (300LX and 320LX) was that they
were disappointing because there was no number pad.

I'd prefer to keep it as small as it is and I don't imagine it's possible to
touch type in such a small area.  (And I do touch type, about 40 words per
minute on a full-sized keyboard.)

I would like to add:
- Compact Flash card slots for storage, leaving the PC Card slot open.
- Better compatibility with newer PC Cards (PCMCIA standards)
- Backlighting or at least a higher contrast, whiter screen background
- Built-in 56K modem
- Built-in packet radio with alphanumeric pager receiving software
- Built-in 10Base-T ethernet compatible with Microsoft networking
- Built-in SoundBlaster compatible audio
Alan

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:39:54 -0500
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Subject:      Re: "Dead DOS? - live wince?" (rant)

>>Well - if wince fits the way you use a palmtop, then
it's right for you.  errrr, maybe.  A wino thinks wine is good for him.

>>What I find obnoxious isn't wince or wince users, it's the
notion of wince as the REPLACEMENT for DOS as a palmtop
OS.<<     A good thought..

>>Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.<<
Another good thought.

Red herring. Just because you and I need a more "open" or
"versatile"  OS than WinCe doesn't rule it out as an OS. And
the Libretto won't replace MY 200lx because I need more than
an operating system. I need the right package. Remember, it's
a personal choice.  Gotta be universal and a functional imperative.
Its the people that buy and support it.

Stop believing the marketing hype and making accusations
about what WinCE can't do. Start preaching to the masses
about what your palmtop CAN do.     Best way to do this is
to put out great GOTTA HAVE and USEFUL software.

>>*** DOS Forever! ***<<   *** Palmtops Forever! ***
>>  <<

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:32:31 -0700
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Hi there, I don't know if you can buy these things anywhere alone,
but at one time I tried out a Casio Casiopeia (WinCE) machine and
it can with just that.  A plastic dummy PC-Card that you placed in
the machine when you didn't have a normal PC-Card in there.

Brian S


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>    Question: are there dummy PCMCIA cards; made of plastic that
>    can be plugged into an empty slot and serve as internal mecha-
>    nical reinforcement for the LX case?

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:45:11 -0500
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Subject:      Re: SC's Optimizer Question.

Yu ain't so rare. I do that all the time.
That's the Sunshine Defrrager.
Perchance yu don't got enough memory
so yu gotta aloot more if yor in sysaps.
Else exit everything defrag an go back in.
It don't seem to defrag inside of carousel.

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I would like to add:
- Compact Flash card slots for storage, leaving the PC Card slot open.
- Better compatibility with newer PC Cards (PCMCIA standards)
- Backlighting or at least a higher contrast, whiter screen background
- Built-in 56K modem
- Built-in packet radio with alphanumeric pager receiving software
- Built-in 10Base-T ethernet compatible with Microsoft networking
- Built-in SoundBlaster compatible audio


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And move some of this stuff into another dimension so the unit stays the
same size :-) What we need is Dr. Who's telephone booth technology!

rick

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:29:38 -0400
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I hate to break it to everyone...

All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.

First, the chances of it happening are practically nihil.  Second, the 2x
speed upgrade plus memory expansion (8MB+) already lowers the battery life
to below 12 hours for most people (and with a newer flash, to about 6-8
hours, if you're lucky).  Further upgrading will put it in the 3-5 hour
range of a laptop, or say, the IBM PC110 and color wince machines.

Let's face it, a deformed 200lx will hardly work any better than getting a
souped up wince/psion and running XTCE/XTM dos emulation.  Either learn to
accept the LX's limits, or start saving for a new machine+emulator.

Let's all get real, here.  Eventually, we're all doomed, folks.   (Unless
you consider sargeant's battle cries for NEW and IMPROVED PIM software...)

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:30:18 EST
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Subject:      Re: Dreams: 620LX VGA-out card, DOS is dead, Wince alive...

>         Hello all,
>
>     HP 620LX VGA-out card: I don't think it's a real PCMCIA card at
>     all. It's 3.3V for sure and more than likely it's nothing but a
>     bunch of coils and resistors on the inside. It puts out a 1/2
>     VGA 256-color picture onto VGA monitors, same as the 620LX uses
>     with the built-in LCD. So it's a simple amplifier, AFAIK. The
>     price range, about 10% of the 620LX price is too low to suggest
>     real electronics inside that card. The card is bulky itself.

It takes an entirely different controller to drive a CRT. While the
internal LCD controller could be a version that can drive both LCD
and CRT (as in most laptops)  it is doubtful that it is since the
extra power would be a problem. As far as the price is concerned, how
much does a simple vga display adaptor cost today. To an OEM probably
about $5 USD. I doubt that the vga out card for the HP is very
complicated, probably on a par with an old 256K vga adaptor and
extremely cheap.

>
>     But even if above is untrue, there is already a color graphics
>     adapter inside the 200LX and PCs can have one mono and one color
>     adapter at a time. Also, VGA is analog, while CGA is TTL level.
>
>     Question: Regular ISA bus CGA cards used to have a jumper to set
>     mono/color operations mode. It is possible with the 200LX? (I am
>     not talking about DOS command "C:\>mode CO80" or "BW80", but HW
>     level).
>
>     External video for LX could be easier by stealing away signals
>     from the LCD cable. E.g. there is an overhead panel for HP48GX,
>     what could be done with that? Or there are older AT&T (640x400)
>     (aka. double-scan CGA) overhead panels, that are TTL. But how
>     many are interested? Wish, Japanese users were still active as
>     much as they used to be a year ago.
>

LCD panels are much more unusual than CRT video systems. Controllers
are usually designed for specific panels and seldom work with more
than a couple. It would take alot of offboard electronics to allow
the signals meant for one LCD panel to work with a totally different
one, especially if it is a different resolution.

Pete


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Subject:      ppp with the 200LX

Is it possible to log on to the internet with the desktop
then log onto the connection with the 200LX using something
like www/lx or lxtcp through a serial line.

Something like this:

log onto the internet using the modem on com2
connect the 200lx with the serial line to com3 on the desktop
using www/lx or lxtcp log into the internet through the
connection on com2. I am using Warp 4 if that makes a differance.
Thanks!!!

-John

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Striegel, Alan wrote:
> It might pay to look into the old mini-trackballs (if you can still find
> them) that used to be popular as clip-ons to notebook computers before they
> all had built-in pointers.
>
> MicroTRAC
I know that the MicroTrac works on the LX.  Just plug it into the serial
port (via the HP serial cable and a null modem/gender changer adapter).

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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> From:    Jm Musielewicz 
> Subject: connecting OS/2 and the 200LX with zip

> Hi

> I used to use zip to transfer files between OS/2 and the 200LX
> but I stopped using it. Now I need it again and for some reason
> it won't transfer files. It sees the directories and files
> ok on the 200lx but when I tell it to transfer it just sits there
> with a ready on the screen. I have tried baud rates from 115000
> to 2400 and have added a null modem adapter to the serial cable.
> I can boot to dos to transfer with laplink but its a real pain
> it takes a while to boot and reboot. Is anybody using zip that
> might have any ideas? Thanks.

> John

     I use the LapLink software using a DOS box under OS/2.  I
can sent you my setup if you have problems other than the control
is from the palmtop, OS/2 dosen't like DOS block devices mucking
about with drive lettering.  I also use the Connectivity Pack
and Filer, but it is slower and loses connection on large transfers.

     I started using Kermit in a DOS box, an OS/2 Z-modem transfer
program, and the OS/2 HALite program and the HP terminal program,
but after I got LapLink up, that's about all I use.

Steve

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Comments: To: hplx 

I very much agree with your points. Don't put tail-fins on the damn thing!

I wish, though, that HP would take advantage of newer semiconductor
technology to offer either (1) same speed with even longer battery life, or
(2) higher speed at same battery life. (Ideally, of course, they would offer
(1), and Mack could transform HP's offering into (2).)

But I would say NO to any frills that just decrease battery life, including
color, backlighting, cigarette lighter, hair dryer, etc.

- Joe

P.S. Now, I'll admit, I wouldn't mind it if HP also incorporated a modem
that ran off phone line power. Or, a new compact flash slot in addition to
the PCMCIA slot. Either way, we could use a modem and a memory card at the
same time.

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, hplx wrote:

> I hate to break it to everyone...
>
> All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
> screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.


A part of me agrees with this.  We know there's no way HP is going to
support this line much longer.  And 2 AAs can't power much more computer
for long.  We're all pretty much in agreement with the fact that 2 AAs are
the way to go.

So.  What's that leave us?

Well... more memory (128 MB) and software!  Let's take this one at a time:

Memory.  Anyone with 32MB or greater can tell you how liberating this is.
So... installing 128MB of ramdisk would be truly a great thing, if the
power consumption could be kept low enough.  I know that I couldn't
tolerate a hi-capacity upgrade if my LX got less battery life than it does
now.  With the small size of DOS programs, 128MB should be adequate.
Mack and crew have done a great thing by shoehorning 32 & 64MB into these
machines.  But even more room would be good.

Software.  The OpenSource idea is a fabulous one. (Of course, I'm not a
programmer.)  However, what's wrong with DOS?  Yea, Linux and X would be
great... but... I can't see any way to make it run *well* on an 8086, even
if the machine was at 16Mhz with 128MB of disk space.  Besides, we know
DOS works on this platform.  We established above that we can't squeeze
much more horsepower under the hood without power consumption problems.  I
can't see a way around DOS.  Besides, it's in ROM.  Now... getting to the
software.  The programmers who write for this platform are truly gifted.
These guys are the wizards who've kept this platform alive this long.
So... how about a collaboration?  There's enough of you out there!  You're
all talented in your own right.  One thing we don't have enough of is
SysMgr compliant software.  PAL is great... but it's not a .exm.  From
what I've seen, .exm files "appear" to be smaller, (Correct me if I'm
wrong, guys!), and allow you to use the LX clipboard, task swap, etc.
Applications are the key here.  What the platform needs are things like:

  M$ Outlook synchronization (corporations are standardizing on Outlook)
  M$ Word compatible word processor (I HATE getting M$ Word attachments,
   and multiple fonts would be nice, along with WYSIWYG.)

As much as I hate to admit it, M$ is the way everything is going.  (My
current employer uses nothing but WinNT, Exchange, IIS, etc.  YUCK!)  But,
it's a fact of life for us.  We should be trying to keep connectivity and
compatibility with the new systems, even if it's some kind of rudimentary
compatibility.

I'm not trying to flame anyone for wanting to revamp the LX.  I just think
that our efforts as a user group are better spent working with what we
have.  Guys like Mack Baggette, Andreas Garzotto, Rod Whitby, Avi Meshar,
Hal Goldstein... these people have been able to keep the platform alive.
However, not even our collective efforts would be able to support a 486LX.
(Of course, if one were to come out tomorrow, I'd buy it!)

This is just my opinion... I could be wrong.
(And have been, according to my wife.)

Bill

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:51:57 -0500
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Subject:      LX Case reinforcement    FLUFF

>    Question: are there dummy PCMCIA cards; made of plastic that
>    can be plugged into an empty slot and serve as internal mecha-
>    nical reinforcement for the LX case?

The reason they don't got them no more is probably that
the guy figuered out (all by hisself) that it wuz a dumb thing
to do.  after all if yu goes around dropping it and cracking the
screen, busting the hinge, wrecking the case, but the slot is
OK because ya reinforced is not a really bright idea today.
Is it?   As originally said, it wuz to advertize for BACKing up
and it wuz not cost effective fer dat.   If ya just wann fill da
hole, Stick a sm 5-10 MB in there.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:54:07 -0500
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Subject:      Junk and fluff

"I'm one of those "rare individuals" who bought
something and hasn't had time to install it or
make it work....   ;-)"

Hey ya wanna trade junk?

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Comments: To: al chin 

> to do.  after all if yu goes around dropping it and cracking the
> screen, busting the hinge, wrecking the case, but the slot is

Hey Al,

I don't know where you get this thing about the LX being so fragile. I
routinely use mine to open walnuts and I've never had a problem. A couple
months ago, I was at a friend's daughter's hockey game, and they couldn't
find a puck, so I let them use my 200LX. Still works like a charm (in fact I
think it runs a little faster now). And just last week, I needed a jack
stand, but couldn't find one in the garage, so I just used a pile of LX
machines. There's now a small scratch on the 200LX that I used for the top
(damn, I should have put the 95LX on top), but otherwise, absolutely no
damage, mechanical or electronic.

- Joe

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:15:25 -0400
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I have one Racal-Datacom v.32-bis (14.4 Kbits/sec.) fax/modem for sale in
the U.S. for $25 plus shipping.  The model number is ALM 3226.  This device
operates on a 9-volt battery or AC adapter (included).  It has a 9-pin
serial connection that will mate with the HP 100LX/200LX by using a
connectivity kit cable and 9-pin gender changer (not included).

The documentation (included) also claims compatibility with cellular phones
because of the inclusion of MNP-10 error correction, but the only phone
connection available is a standard RJ-11 jack.

According to the manual, it offers:

- Group 3 fax compatibility class 1 and 2 (fax speeds up to 14,400 bps)
- DTE speeds up to 57,600 bps
- MNP error control and compression levels 2,3,4,5, and 10
- V.42/V.42bis error correction and compression
- Synchronous/asynchronous operation
- Modem speaker lets you hear progress signals
- LED indicators for Battery, DCD, RxD, TxD
- Industry standard AT auto dialing command set

Alan Striegel

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:24:33 -0700
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, hplx wrote:

> I hate to break it to everyone...
> All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
> screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.

The new processor, you're right on.  The backlight... I think you're
wrong.  A mouse... well, built-in, sure.  There's not really any way to
get a mouse/trackpoint/trackball/trackpad in there.  But an attachment
that clips on the side of the 200LX might be a possibility.

> First, the chances of it happening are practically nihil.  Second, the 2x
> speed upgrade plus memory expansion (8MB+) already lowers the battery life
> to below 12 hours for most people (and with a newer flash, to about 6-8
> hours, if you're lucky).  Further upgrading will put it in the 3-5 hour
> range of a laptop, or say, the IBM PC110 and color wince machines.

Well, clearly what we need is a better battery pack.  Anybody on the list
want to let us borrow their nuclear-powered pacemaker?  

> Let's face it, a deformed 200lx will hardly work any better than getting a
> souped up wince/psion and running XTCE/XTM dos emulation.  Either learn to
> accept the LX's limits, or start saving for a new machine+emulator.
> Let's all get real, here.  Eventually, we're all doomed, folks.   (Unless
> you consider sargeant's battle cries for NEW and IMPROVED PIM software...)

HERE YE, HERE YE!  

(Mr. Thing is referring to my editorial, at http://www.hplx.net/ed.html )

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:26:24 EST
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Subject:      Re: "Dead DOS? - live wince?" (rant)

> > I believe Jorgen is right. And I will add that while today
> > there is room for both WinCE and the 200lx (at least in my
> > life), this will probably not be true sometime down the
> > road. Sooner or later we will be lamenting the passing of the
> > late, great DOS handheld as we "Grafitti-speak" our
> > appointments into our Windows CE 5.0 talking tablets.
>
> Well - if wince fits the way you use a palmtop, then it's right for
> you.
>

While I agree with this 100% I have a couple of questions about the
below statement.

> 
>
> BUT - for a lot of us listmembers, the palmtop is a PC, NOT a
> glorified organizer.  While wince may be improving, as long as M$
> continues with the cockamamie "PC Companion" concept, it'll be useless
> as a "Pocket PC", which we have now.  What I find obnoxious isn't
> wince or wince users, it's the notion of wince as the REPLACEMENT for
> DOS as a palmtop OS.  Hey, c'mon - we're talking apples and oranges
> here.  Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
> functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.
>
> The only remotely likely candidate for an LX successor is the Toshiba
> Libretto series.  (They're actually SMALLER than some wince devices,
> they're REAL "Handheld PCs", and can do DOS)
>
> *** DOS Forever! ***
>
> 
>
> -Peniel

First off, what "stand alone operation and disk I/O" can an hp200lx
do that a wince machine can't? It seems to me that both are in a
similar boat in those regards. The 200lx can't access a hard drive or
floppy without additional hardware and software. The 200lx can't
bring a program in without the intervention of another system, be it
via modem or serial port. The old arguement that you can't write
programs on CE machines so they are less than a computer is silly,
there are several programming languages available ON the CE machine
and I would bet many more will cmoe in the future. There are actually
more similarities between CE machines and the 200lx than differences.
What people always disregard is that the 200lx came along at a time
when DOS programs were quite common, so it instantly had an
application base to choose from. The CE machines have to be around a
while before they will come anywhere near this size application base
but they will if they last.

As far as the libretto line goes, they will only get bigger, not
smaller, as is the way of subnotebooks. No one wants smaller since
they complain that the keyboard is too small and the screen is too
small. I own a libretto 50ct and I really like it but it is much
larger than the 200lx, and most CE machines, so it is hardly in the
same category. All I can say is if you want to use DOS forever you
had better start stockpiling computers and programs.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:27:46 EST
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Subject:      Re: HP-Microsoft-and the 200LX

> In reference to Linux, I saw a web page for a palmtop that ran at
> 200MHZ, 64 Meg of ram,  menu keys and used a pair of AAAs.
>
That sounds more like a winCE machine than anything that could run
linux.

Pete

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Joe Barrera wrote:

> I don't know where you get this thing about the LX being so fragile. I
> routinely use mine to open walnuts and I've never had a problem. A
> couple months ago, I was at a friend's daughter's hockey game, and
> they couldn't find a puck, so I let them use my 200LX. Still works
> like a charm (in fact I think it runs a little faster now). And just
> last week, I needed a jack stand, but couldn't find one in the garage,
> so I just used a pile of LX machines. There's now a small scratch on
> the 200LX that I used for the top (damn, I should have put the 95LX on
> top), but otherwise, absolutely no damage, mechanical or electronic.

You know, this gives me a great idea for a contest.... what's the most
hideous thing you've ever used your LX for?  

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:43:20 EST
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Subject:      Re: HP200LX replacement

> I would like to add:
> - Compact Flash card slots for storage, leaving the PC Card slot open.
> - Better compatibility with newer PC Cards (PCMCIA standards)
> - Backlighting or at least a higher contrast, whiter screen background
> - Built-in 56K modem
> - Built-in packet radio with alphanumeric pager receiving software
> - Built-in 10Base-T ethernet compatible with Microsoft networking
> - Built-in SoundBlaster compatible audio
> Alan
>

Built-in Diehard automotive battery for power. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:52:53 -0700
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I have the same problem with my 32MB C: drive and Software Carousel's
OPTIMIZE.  I'm not sure what the problem is, but I believe Hal mentioned
it before-- perhaps in relation to the 64MB Optimize bug?

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:58:23 EST
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Subject:      Re: Touch pad for hplx?

> The nipple?!? I don't think I want to comment on the name...
>
> I don't like IBM's invention. All of a sudden it simply refuses to do what
> you want it to, no matter how hard you push it. It just gets stuck in the
> lower right corner. It always does when I use it anyway...
>
> A small trackball would be nicer on the LX. One that plugs onto the side
> of the LX. I'm sure someone already uses this; I remember seeing pictures
> of it...
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laust
>

You must have a defective trackpoint. I have used thinpads with
trackpoints for years without a problem. They are actually one of the
least problematic devices on a laptop. Toshiba invented their own
version but I have never liked the sensitivity range on theirs but
that is a driver issue more than anything else. The only real
complaint I have seen about trackpoints and their brethren is
drifting and that is a user error. The driver recalibrates at short
time intervals, if you leave your finger pressing in one direction it
recalibrates this as neutral. Then when you remove your finger the
pointer starts to drift since the lack of pressure is misread as
pressure in the opposite direction. If people learn to not rest their
finger on the trackpoint there isn't ever a problem.

For the 200lx what might work better is a glidepoint pad. There are
found on alot of new laptops and also as external devices for your
desktop. Once you get used to them they are quite nice and they have
the advantage of taking up very little space. The area of the pad is
usually only a couple of square inches and the thickness is around
1/16" of an inch. Maybe something like that on the back of the screen
in the upper right where an index finger could use it.

Pete

PS. Of course this is all pie in the sky dreaming, no company is
going to release a new palmtop running DOS in todays market. You
would be as likely to see a laptop running CP/M available for sale.


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:58:20 GMT
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Subject:      Re: "Dead DOS? - live wince?" (rant)

In message <530098B68C6@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us>, TCBORDP@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us said:
> > > I believe Jorgen is right. And I will add that while today
> > > there is room for both WinCE and the 200lx (at least in my
> > > life), this will probably not be true sometime down the
> > > road. Sooner or later we will be lamenting the passing of the
> > > late, great DOS handheld as we "Grafitti-speak" our
> > > appointments into our Windows CE 5.0 talking tablets.
> >
> > Well - if wince fits the way you use a palmtop, then it's right for
> > you.
> >
>
> While I agree with this 100% I have a couple of questions about the
> below statement.
>
> > 
> >
> > BUT - for a lot of us listmembers, the palmtop is a PC, NOT a
> > glorified organizer.  While wince may be improving, as long as M$
> > continues with the cockamamie "PC Companion" concept, it'll be useless
> > as a "Pocket PC", which we have now.  What I find obnoxious isn't
> > wince or wince users, it's the notion of wince as the REPLACEMENT for
> > DOS as a palmtop OS.  Hey, c'mon - we're talking apples and oranges
> > here.  Until wince is capable of stand-alone operation and disk I/O
> > functions, it doesn't deserve to be considered an OS.
> >
> > The only remotely likely candidate for an LX successor is the Toshiba
> > Libretto series.  (They're actually SMALLER than some wince devices,
> > they're REAL "Handheld PCs", and can do DOS)
> >
> > *** DOS Forever! ***
> >
> > 
> >
> > -Peniel
>
> First off, what "stand alone operation and disk I/O" can an hp200lx
> do that a wince machine can't? It seems to me that both are in a
> similar boat in those regards. The 200lx can't access a hard drive or
> floppy without additional hardware and software. The 200lx can't
> bring a program in without the intervention of another system, be it
> via modem or serial port. The old arguement that you can't write
> programs on CE machines so they are less than a computer is silly,
> there are several programming languages available ON the CE machine
> and I would bet many more will cmoe in the future. There are actually
> more similarities between CE machines and the 200lx than differences.
> What people always disregard is that the 200lx came along at a time
> when DOS programs were quite common, so it instantly had an
> application base to choose from. The CE machines have to be around a
> while before they will come anywhere near this size application base
> but they will if they last.
>
> As far as the libretto line goes, they will only get bigger, not
> smaller, as is the way of subnotebooks. No one wants smaller since
> they complain that the keyboard is too small and the screen is too
> small. I own a libretto 50ct and I really like it but it is much
> larger than the 200lx, and most CE machines, so it is hardly in the
> same category. All I can say is if you want to use DOS forever you
> had better start stockpiling computers and programs.
>

Yeah, yeah CE is windows so it has to be better. If I wanted
Windows I'd buy a Mac. *******DOS RULES********

-John

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:47:09 GMT
Reply-To:     Jm Musielewicz 
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From:         Jm Musielewicz 
Subject:      Re: connecting OS/2 and the 200LX with zip

In message <3.0.5.16.19981021154309.1a0f64f2@204.49.39.2>, Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM said:
> > From:    Jm Musielewicz 
> > Subject: connecting OS/2 and the 200LX with zip
>
> > Hi
>
> > I used to use zip to transfer files between OS/2 and the 200LX
> > but I stopped using it. Now I need it again and for some reason
> > it won't transfer files. It sees the directories and files
> > ok on the 200lx but when I tell it to transfer it just sits there
> > with a ready on the screen. I have tried baud rates from 115000
> > to 2400 and have added a null modem adapter to the serial cable.
> > I can boot to dos to transfer with laplink but its a real pain
> > it takes a while to boot and reboot. Is anybody using zip that
> > might have any ideas? Thanks.
>
> > John
>
>      I use the LapLink software using a DOS box under OS/2.  I
> can sent you my setup if you have problems other than the control
> is from the palmtop, OS/2 dosen't like DOS block devices mucking
> about with drive lettering.  I also use the Connectivity Pack
> and Filer, but it is slower and loses connection on large transfers.
>
>      I started using Kermit in a DOS box, an OS/2 Z-modem transfer
> program, and the OS/2 HALite program and the HP terminal program,
> but after I got LapLink up, that's about all I use.
>
> Steve

Hi Steve

Could you send me your setup? I'd rather use Laplink since its
so easy to network the palmtop drives. How did you get laplink
to work under os/2? I remember I tried and tried and even went
so far as to contact traveling software--they said "it doesn't
work". I could've told them that. Did they fix it?

-John

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:19:39 -0400
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I'd like to *subtract* (from the suggestions):
  (1) Just about everything that has been suggested as `built-in' as
     `building-in' kills battery life and adds volume and weight.
  (2) Extra `slots' that add volume (use extender instead)
  (3) Backlighting --- it's never bright enough anyway so a separable
      light source is better if it's needed
  (4) Bigger screen---if it would increase power consumption or size
  (5) any suggestions that increase power consumption and size/weight

Those times I am happy to compromise power supply and weight, I carry my
Libretto with its brilliant screen, Gig(s) of memory, etc. etc. The
Libretto is already cheaper than a `fully-rigged' 200Lx as it is. The
200Lx survives precisely because it *isn't* a Libretto (great battery
life, instant on, very small form factor). Compromising those things
strikes me as pointless.

Rick Kozak (and others) wrote:
>
> I would like to add:
>
>   the thing around. particlularly with the generator needed
>  to provide adequate power supply>
>

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:00:25 GMT
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Subject:      Why (not) release source code

E-TOMCAT@SC.BME.HU said:
>     There was an argument here, that those developing free SW for
>     the LX should release the code as well. I bet, some of those
>     who do not release the source have good reasons to spare it.
>     Like others using it for malicious purposes or if they simply
>     too busy to properly comment the code. Releasing uncommented
>     code (most source C and ASM) is bad, very few people could
>     understand the inner working that way.
>

Often you don't release the source code for practical reasons. One prorgam that I released for the HPLX (200mnu) uses a C++ container class library whic hI developed a while ago as well as a C++ version of PAL which also has all the low level routines written in assembler. To release ALL the source code would mean several MB of source code as well as infringing the PAL copyright (distributing a modified, unauthorized vesion).

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:00:52 -0700
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Casper Ý1¨ (AP) -  Today, mild-mannered student and informatika
revolutionary Ian Butler announced his campaign to port Linux-86
to the HP 200LX Palmtop Computer.  According to Butler, this new
development will propel the 200LX user community into the next
millenium, using cutting-edge software to make up for aging hard-
ware.

Butler says that most of the groundwork is complete, starting with
a recent beta version of the ELKS Linux kernel, and perhaps even
bootable on the palmtop already, although he said "I'm not sure as
to the details.. you know, things like whether ELKS supports loop-
back filesystems or even ramdisks."  He also says that he "can't
do it alone" and needs "good systems and application programmers
to help with the details".

According to Butler, the Linux-86 port, named "LXix" will be more
of a customized distribution of Linux-86, and thus will have an FQDN
of "LXix Linux" or "ELKS LXix", although he did mention that the
latter name has "too many syllables".  He said he thought that
if the ELKS kernel would boot on the 200LX, immediate application
development could begin via bcc, the small C compiler rumoured to
be part of Linux-86.

He suggested that the beginning of development would likely be a
System Manager-like X server, with support for hardware ROM routines
via an accelerated server.  Apparently, VCs, or virtual consoles,
are already supported by ELKS.  Butler said, "Our job is to whip up
a foundation suite of utilities and programs inherent in Unix OSes,
and to simultaneously start real application development which will
spawn a much larger user base, appealing to techies with Unix and to
businessmen for the applications base."

When asked about why his homepage at http://www.hplx.net/ian/ doesn't
mention the new LXix project, he simply said "I'm working on it, but
there's a really cool picture of my car down at the bottom that you'd
probably like to see in the meantime."

Butler concluded by appointing himself Supreme Dictator of the LXix
Project, then laughing and then saying "Contact me at ian@hplx.net if
you'd like to join the project, eh?"

--

Ý1¨ Never heard of the place?  It's where Matthew Shepard's
funeral was held.  Yup, I knew you knew it.  :)


Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

Time is an illusion perpetrated by the manufacturers of space.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:51:14 +0200
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Subject:      beep, beep, main battery very low...
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hi all,

i've an annoying problem with my 200lx. trying to start it, it beeps
twice, the topcard flashes just enough to see the very low main
battery warning , then it goes off again. but batteries are good. the
only remedy is to take all batteries out for a couple of hours, then
restore everything from a flash card. after some days (sometimes just
hours) it happens again.

i use mainly nicads (when happened the first time about a month ago,
it was on duracells alkaline though) and changed (just in case) the
back-up cell. if going to setup screen on ac i can see the gauge
falling suddenly from full to empty (alkalines) or to low on nicads.
the back-up cell gets real warm, but this might be normal, never
touched it before. everything else works, as usual for a 200lx,
perfectly.

i would appreciate any ideas

regards,
nick calceano

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:07:08 -0600
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Rick, have at it!  During the last couple of days, I've spent a few =
hours searching various DOS sites to find a program that would =
accomplish the task.  After downloading a dozen programs, with the =
greatest potential, I have yet to find anything that will accurately =
reproduce the screen in text mode.  We all look forward to your results.

-----Original Message-----
From:   Rick Kozak ÝSMTP:rick@COLLOQUIST.ON.CA¨
Sent:   Wednesday, October 21, 1998 12:45 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Re: How do you capture the screen in 40 column text mode?

What we need is a program that can give us a pixel by pixel layout of =
the
screen while in text mode.  My guess is that calls will need to be made =
to a
display controller that can read back each pixel.  Just a guess.  Does
anybody know if the display controller in the LX will tell us the =
condition
of the pixel while in text mode?


-----

To do this you would have to:

1. read the current text mode info
2. read the font ROM
3. read the character code data in the video ram
4. code in the form of a TSR

mix together, and voila ;-)

Can be done... maybe tonight, you've piqued my curiosity. Unless, of =
course,
someone can find a program that's already done it before I have at it.

rick

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I just released a new software called LxVox. It is a very small
WAV player and may also be used as a HV plug-in, just in case
you come accross an internet site containing WAV files. LxVox
functions much like LxPic, that is, it allows scanning of whole
drives for WAV files. Hope you like it. It's on supernew and

http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl/lxvox.zip

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I don't like LLRA or INTERLNK as connectivity software for the
palmtop because they use up precious memory all the time and
are difficult to set up. To be honest, I never got them to
work.

Tonight, after finishing LxVox, I took out my old HP95LX
connectivity pack and copied the DC95 and DCS95 files to my
32MB palmtop and my desktop. I could not believe it, they work
like a charm. I ran DCS95 on the palmtop and DC95 on the
desktop and could access my palmtop drives through the desktop.

I could even edit a palmtop file with an editor on the desktop,
that is, use the desktops keyboard to work on a palmtop file.
I copied large files forth and back and measured the time. It
turned out to be a real 115.000 baud connection, as DCS95 stated.

I also tried it the other way round: DCS95 on the desktop and
DC95 on the palmtop. However this only worked after commenting
out the 32MB drivers in config.sys. But then I was able to view
pictures on a CDROM connected to the desktop using LxPic on the
palmtop. Indeed I could also run LxPic on the desktop and view
pictures stored on the palmtop (sounds like a VGA out card ;).

And what I liked most: DCS95 runs nonresident. DC95 indeed runs
resident, by may be removed immediately from memory after
usage. The copyright says: (c) 1991 Traveling Software.
I guess this is still under 'warranty'. But maybe some of you
still have the disks. It's a true alternative to those memory
hungry newer products!

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              Don Chow 
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For those of you continuing to dream about features that could be packed
into our beloved LX'es, certain realities do exist in the IBM PC-110,
Libretto 1000 and Sony VAIO PCG-C1 subnotebooks.  They're pretty amazing
(the IBM is not much bigger than an LX!), but all have a battery life of
about 2 hrs.

The specs of these and others are all at: 

On the PC-110 page located there it says IBM is releasing a 340MB compact
flash in January.




Microcosmic
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              Rod Whitby 
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"Peter W. Borders"  writes:
> All I can say is if you want to use DOS forever you
> had better start stockpiling computers and programs.

And source code ... :-)

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I am working on a project to create a Lotus 123 function & macro =
database.  However, the job has turned out to be bigger than I thought =
and I could use some help.  I intend to post the file on SUPER but not =
until it is complete.  If there are any Lotus enthusiasts out there with =
the appropriate manuals,  I would like to divide up the work load.

The file size is currently 129k and contains 178 records.  143 of the =
records have notes (some still need editing) directly from the Lotus 123 =
manual.

If you would care to participate please email me.=20

Don.

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Jm Musielewicz  writes:
> Is it possible to log on to the internet with the desktop
> then log onto the connection with the 200LX using something
> like www/lx or lxtcp through a serial line.
>
> Something like this:
>
> log onto the internet using the modem on com2
> connect the 200lx with the serial line to com3 on the desktop
> using www/lx or lxtcp log into the internet through the
> connection on com2. I am using Warp 4 if that makes a differance.

If you were running Unix on the desktop, then it's easy.  I did
exactly that for a couple of months before I got LXTCP to run over the
ethernet directly.  You just need a PPP emulator on the desktop (slirp
is the one for Unix, and yes it does come with source code!).

I can't help you out for non-Unix machines - someone else may know of
a PPP emulator for them ...

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Ian,

I doubt if I am the only one out here asking the question, "What's the big
deal about LINUX?"

I don't mean that I don't think there is one, I just don't know what it is.  I
read all these LINUX posts, and have been hoping someone would ask a naive
question and save me the embaresment of admitting that I have no clue.

Thanks,

Lynn M. Cavendish

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              Rod Whitby 
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David Becher  writes:
> Often you don't release the source code for practical reasons. One
> prorgam that I released for the HPLX (200mnu) uses a C++ container
> class library whic hI developed a while ago as well as a C++ version
> of PAL which also has all the low level routines written in
> assembler. To release ALL the source code would mean several MB of
> source code as well as infringing the PAL copyright (distributing a
> modified, unauthorized vesion).

ÝI have Cc'd Gilles Kohl, one of the PAL authors.¨

I'd be interested in a C++ version of PAL!  Have you approached the
PAL developers with the idea of incorporating your changes in the
standard distribution ?  A faster, smaller version of PAL routines
must be a bonus for all PAL programs, and it's sitting there not being
used to it's fullest potential!  I can't imagine that Gilles and the
other PAL authors would want to prevent the release of a C++/assembler
PAL.

As for the size of the source code, let the reader decide if several
MB of source is too much to download and sift through!

Note that I do not condone the use of source code that has been
illegally reverse engineered or that has been released against
copyright conditions.  What I am campaigning for is the *original*
authors to release the source code under conditions like the following
(which is what I use):

    ExmBatch is copyrighted freeware, and comes with no warranty.

    ExmBatch may be distributed freely, but only in it's original
    unmodified form (as a PkZip archive called EXMBAT15.ZIP).  If
    you wish to distribute a modified or improved version of
    ExmBatch, then you must change the program name before doing
    so.  Please send all modifications or improvements to the
    author for possible inclusion in a later version of ExmBatch.

This means that people can use my code for whatever they want
(i.e. they can learn from my code to further the development of
HP200LX software for *all* of us), but I don't get bogus bug reports
from "improvements" that others have made.  I politely request that
people send me changes - as changes from others are often the quickest
way to add new features :-)

I could have made it more restrictive (as in the GNU license), but I
don't do this for palmtop software as I want to help people like D&A
continue to support the HP200LX.  In the remote chance that they can
get anything useful out of my code and use it to improve a commercial
HP200LX product, then they have my blessing.

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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Stefan Peichl wrote:

Ýnice description snipped¨
> And what I liked most: DCS95 runs nonresident. DC95 indeed runs
> resident, by may be removed immediately from memory after
> usage. The copyright says: (c) 1991 Traveling Software.
> I guess this is still under 'warranty'. But maybe some of you
> still have the disks. It's a true alternative to those memory
> hungry newer products!

There's a program on SimTel that appears to do much the same. It is called
"dosrifs2.zip", and it is in one of the networking categories.

I have yet to try it on the LX as I don't have a serial cable and it
refuses to work over IR (not that surprising).

Stefan, do you know if the old 95LX program works over IR? if so, how
fast?


Regards,

Laust

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A while ago someone mentioned using a Cirque Easy Cat touch pad
on their HPLX.  What mouse driver works with this?

David

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 Cavendishl@aol.com wrote:

> I doubt if I am the only one out here asking the question, "What's the big
> deal about LINUX?"
>
> I don't mean that I don't think there is one, I just don't know what it is.  I
> read all these LINUX posts, and have been hoping someone would ask a naive
> question and save me the embaresment of admitting that I have no clue.

Lynn,

The big deal about Linux is .. well, I'm not sure myself.  Except that
Linux was (is) *the* pioneer in the current Open Source frenzy in the real
world.  It's rapidly rising from cult status (although I think we're still
deeply entrenched in our cult roots. ;-)

Essentially, Linux is the everyman's OS.  You can get it off the Internet,
and with a lot of patience (and some help from a Linux guru, of course),
you can get it set up and running without paying anybody a dime to do it.
Once you get it running, it's a blast to just mess with.  You probably
will never find a Linux system running without *at the bare minimum* a
wonderful C compiler and associated utilities (gcc is the compiler, btw,
or bcc for Linux-86) and telnet, HTTP, FTP, and ident servers running.
It's great that way for out-of-the-box results.

As it's becoming more popular, it will be helpful to the 200LX, as it
currently runs DOS, which is becoming hugely less popular.

The important part is that LXix Linux will, if succesful, launch a whole
new era of the 200LX.  It will be a first-class Linux-86 machine with
loads of apps (again, if it becomes popular, and there's no reason to
think that it won't) that are bent on user-friendliness and productivity.
Linux is about as intuitive as DOS, and people that use DOS will be almost
immediately comfortable with the commandline interface.  And when we get
an X (a graphics interface) running, we'll be able to snag the rest of the
user base that relies on SysMan intuitivity.  At that point, there should
be an explosion (such that there is in the 200LX community) of apps that
will blow anything we had in DOS away.  Linux will give us a standard
programming base (a C with libraries that will be the same on all LXix
computers), a basis for Open Source (again, via the standard language) and
just general peace and prosperity like this computer has never seen
before.

Well, I don't know if I've answered your question or not; I tend to gush
when I talk about operating systems.  :)  If you have more questions, I'll
be glad to try to answer them.

Thanks,

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

Green light in A.M. for new projects.  Red light in P.M. for traffic tickets.

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> Lynn,
>
> ...
> The important part is that LXix Linux will, if succesful, launch a whole
> new era of the 200LX.  It will be a first-class Linux-86 machine with
> loads of apps (again, if it becomes popular, and there's no reason to
> think that it won't) that are bent on user-friendliness and productivity.
> Linux is about as intuitive as DOS, and people that use DOS will be almost
> immediately comfortable with the commandline interface.  And when we get
> an X (a graphics interface) running, we'll be able to snag the rest of the
> user base that relies on SysMan intuitivity.  At that point, there should
> be an explosion (such that there is in the 200LX community) of apps that
> will blow anything we had in DOS away.  Linux will give us a standard
> programming base (a C with libraries that will be the same on all LXix
> computers), a basis for Open Source (again, via the standard language) and
> just general peace and prosperity like this computer has never seen
> before.
>
> Ian Butler 
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>

Boy, you really are a dreamer. :-) Not that that is necessarily bad
but dreamers tend to get hurt when reality rears its ugly head.

What might be more realistic is to get all those people that are
going to develope that "load of apps" for Linux-86 to develope for
DOS on the 200lx right now. After all if the 200lx is so great it
shouldn't matter if it is DOS or Linux that it runs, the programmers
should be beating down or doors to write programs for us. :-)

As far as a standard programming base and open source, DOS pretty
much has that now. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't EVERYONE'S
200lx have the same version of DOS, there is your standard
programming base. As far as open source, there are hundreds of books
on DOS, there are NO secrets left, you can't get much more open than
that. True we don't have the source for the OS itself but that is
hardly needed when it is as FULLY documented as DOS has been over the
years. To be truthful, the documentation on programming for DOS is
ALOT better than what is available for Linux. You almost HAVE to have
access to Linux source to figure out how to do certain things.

Then we get to the GUI, I would really like to SEE X-Windows on a
200lx, of course nothing would actually move so I would have plenty
of time to study it. :-) X is slow on high end hardware, I can't
imagine how slow it would be on an 80(1)86, even double speed. You
have to remember X is alot more that just pretty graphics, it is
quite complicated "under the hood" so to speak.

Oh well, don't mean to burst you bubble, we always need dreamers just
to keep us moving forward. Just don't set your hopes too high, the
fall can be very painful. :-(

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subscriber Comments: Does anyone know what voltage PC card can be used
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> Ian,
>
> I doubt if I am the only one out here asking the question, "What's the big
> deal about LINUX?"
>
> I don't mean that I don't think there is one, I just don't know what it is.  I
> read all these LINUX posts, and have been hoping someone would ask a naive
> question and save me the embaresment of admitting that I have no clue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lynn M. Cavendish
>

Think of DOS, with something like Software Caroselle (sp?) built in.
Add in alot of neat little utilities, some pretty good apps and a
solid, crashproof (as you can get) base and you have an idea of
Linux, or any other Unix varient. On top of that you can add a
graphical interface (X windows) and lots of "pretty" graphical apps
like winXX but those would probably be a little extreme on the 200lx.

What would really be nice is if the DOS emulator (actually an
executor) from Linux could be brought over as well. Then you would
have the best of both worlds, DOS and Unix apps that you can easily
switch between with a keystroke.

Realistically I don't see much of Linux actually running on an
80(1)86 platform like the 200lx. There is too much memory overhead
needed. I would be amazed if you get it far enough to allow one or
two text mode apps to run at the same time, and to be able to switch
between them without a long delay. Whant will probably end up
happening is that multiple apps can be run but background apps will
be effectively suspended (not actively running) which will make the
port basically useless. When you discount the graphics on a Linux (or
other unix) system the main functionality is the ability to run
things in the background. Much of Unix's OS needs are addressed by
background processes. I think that while the OS may run there woun't
be anything left for apps to actually do anything.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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In a message dated 98-10-21 20:56:12 EDT, you write:

<< Well, I don't know if I've answered your question or not; I tend to gush
 when I talk about operating systems.  :)  If you have more questions, I'll
 be glad to try to answer them. >>

Well answered, thank you.  I will continue to follow the traffic.

Lynn

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, David R. Birch wrote:

> A while ago someone mentioned using a Cirque Easy Cat touch pad
> on their HPLX.  What mouse driver works with this?

I use it with a regular Microsoft mouse driver.

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:32:35 -0500
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Have you found a way to update the viewer files?  That is, the
files that allow you to look into the zip archives, etc.?  I'm
not sure, but I think Magellan came out with viewers for the
next to last version of PKZIP.  If there is a way to do this,
it would be great!

On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:29:25 -0400, "Striegel, Alan"  =
wrote:

> So, you mean you're trying to create a palmtop-specific version of =
Lotus
> Magellan?  Well, Magellan wouldn't compress the original text file, but =
it
> does squash its own index files to a pretty small size.
>
> I found it to be a great utility because it offered fuzzy searching of =
not
> only text files, but .ZIP archives, database files, word processing
> documents, Lotus 123 spreadsheets and lots of other formats.  Remember =
that:
> it can index and view the contents of .ZIP files.
>
> The greatest drawback for use on the palmtop is the size of memory =
required
> to run it (over 500 Kbytes).
>
> Alan
>
> >From:  David Sargeant ÝSMTP:david@HPLX.NET¨
> >Sent:  Monday, October 19, 1998 8:58 PM
> >...
> >My biggest project right now is to create a text indexing and compressi=
on
> >package that will either be SysMan compliant or a PAL application.  =
The
> >catch here is that it must be able to search through a 5MB, 10MB, =
20MB, or
> >even 100MB database file for particular words very rapidly.  (I figure
> >this will be fairly easy with a unique-words index.)  It must also
> >compress the index and the original text to a total size of much less =
than
> >the original ASCII text was.  Quite a project.  :)
> >
> >So, if anybody has any thoughts on how to do the indexing or compressio=
n,
> >I'd be glad to hear them.  Once this is done, the source will be =
included,
> >of course.  :)
>
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Do you or anyone know where I can get a copy of DC95.exe and DCS95.exe.
TIA
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:05:00 -0700
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> >
> > > I used to use zip to transfer files between OS/2 and the 200LX

I use LinkRight for OS/2


Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:12:05 +10
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hi Stefan,
I would like to thanx you for all the very nice (and small by the size) programs
you offer to all of us.

I think DC is a program witch was comming with the version 3 of laplink.
I will be please to have a copy, I was never eable to find my old copy of it.

One question, why LXpic can't manage Tiff files?

one wish for LXmap (or one idea).
The option to see another pict or map
when you select a spot.
For exemple, you select (display) a spot where you want to scuba dive,
and you can switch to another view (a beach pic)


anyway,
Thanx again
Best regards
Alain

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Subject:
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       Date:
            Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:04:06 -0700
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Newsgroups:
            oc.forsale, la.forsale, sdnet.forsale, ca.forsale,
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp, comp.sys.palmtops,
            comp.sys.laptops, comp.sys.handhelds


Attn:  medical professions.

The latest Franklin Digital Book System.
I am throwing in The Merck Manual electronic book with this.$125.
Other books avail such as Washington Manual and Harrison's Principle of
Internal Medicine.

HP200LX 6meg $400 firm
medical software also available.

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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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> >     Who wrote about starting Lxix / ELKS? To him: do you have info
> >     on ELKS advances? Their homepage at redhat has not been updated
> >     for months, I thought they quit.
>
> For clarification, LXix will be more of a custom distribution of Linux-86
> (ELKS).  It will probably run an ELKS kernel, and if someone else has made
> a gcc port for ELKS, we'll be good to go.

i follow the ELKS project, and can tell you it's still moving along, albeit
slowly.  ELKS can always use more help ;¨

AFAIK, ELKS still doesn't have a compiler it can run, tho bcc has been set
up as a cross-compiler for binaries et al.  it's k&r style and only supports
small model, but it works.

as for gcc, delorie (of djgpp fame) was working on a 16-bit version of gcc,
but abandoned the project and left it to the public domain.  i don't have
any info on this tho it would be nice to complete.

> Notice I say *will be*.  As the originator of the idea and the person that
> made that really cool word ("LXix") - I command ye all to bow down to the
> .. well, just help me out if you can, eh? :)

just how do pronounce "LXix" anyways?? :¨

--francois

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> I hate to break it to everyone...
>
> All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
> screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.


I reluctantly have to agree with your full assessment.  And I think that
is why HP did not go much further than the 4meg unit.  In addition, note
the longer this thread goes the more disparate the requests/needs.  No
one really wants an improved 200.  They each want a totally different
machine (G)

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>
> And what I liked most: DCS95 runs nonresident. DC95 indeed runs
> resident, by may be removed immediately from memory after

I more or less gave it up when it would not work consistently under,
tada, Win95!  Before that I used it constantly.  You're right - quick
simple.  I used it with pcopy which kept both the lx and my backup
totally in sync erasing files in my backup which had been removed from
the lx.  Most software does not do that part of the "cleanup!"

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> Subscriber Comments: Does anyone know what voltage PC card can be used
> with the 200LX attached to its power source?
>

The same approximately 150mA with or without ac adapter.  The adapter
only helps keep the power level even unlike batteries which may drop
off.  Altho, sometimes the ac adapter helps things thru the peak draw.

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I'm interested, I had a 14.4k pocket modem that died during the summer and
have been looking to replace it for a while.  How much would shipping to
Jamaica, NY be (if it's still available)??

--francois

On Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 05:15:25PM -0400, Striegel, Alan wrote:
> I have one Racal-Datacom v.32-bis (14.4 Kbits/sec.) fax/modem for sale in
> the U.S. for $25 plus shipping.  The model number is ALM 3226.  This device
> operates on a 9-volt battery or AC adapter (included).  It has a 9-pin
> serial connection that will mate with the HP 100LX/200LX by using a
> connectivity kit cable and 9-pin gender changer (not included).
>
> The documentation (included) also claims compatibility with cellular phones
> because of the inclusion of MNP-10 error correction, but the only phone
> connection available is a standard RJ-11 jack.
>
> According to the manual, it offers:
>
> - Group 3 fax compatibility class 1 and 2 (fax speeds up to 14,400 bps)
> - DTE speeds up to 57,600 bps
> - MNP error control and compression levels 2,3,4,5, and 10
> - V.42/V.42bis error correction and compression
> - Synchronous/asynchronous operation
> - Modem speaker lets you hear progress signals
> - LED indicators for Battery, DCD, RxD, TxD
> - Industry standard AT auto dialing command set
>
> Alan Striegel
>
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I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem and if so what
could be causing it?

Machine: 200LX, double speed, 2 meg origionally upped to 5 meg

Problem: Every once in a while my phone list is messed up.  I notice it
by things being out of alphabetical order.  An entry will be in the
wrong place.  Upon investigating that more, I noticed that the out of
order entry is actually duplicated within the database and the other one
is in the right place.  If I delete the offending entry, both the out of
order entry and the correctly placed one will go away.  As if the out of
order entry is an alias or shortcut to the origional within the phone
database.  I have never had this happen in anything else.  My only
repair has been to go back to a backup that does not show the problems
and rebuild any changes in the newer one before deleting it.

Second question / Idea:  Are the doublespeed system correction files
possibly out of date?  Are their different versions of the double speed
correction files and if so, how would I go about getting the newest
versions and how would I tell which versions I have?

Thanks
Dan Carrington

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>
> Hi all!  Got a couple questions about Software Carousel.
> First off, anyone know where there are some screen shots
> of this I can look at?  If not, can someone running it send
> me a couple?  Second... where can I get it?  I searched
> the web and found lots of hits, but there were several
> companies listed as owning it, and none of the links were
> active.  I'm getting tired of Error 404.  Heh! :)   Thanks!
>
> Brian S
>

Browse to www.thaddeus.com - you can order it there.

No need to check screen pictures - if you own a HPx00LX and
plan to keep it than you HAVE TO BUY SC.

HP

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:39:25 -0700
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:

> > computers), a basis for Open Source (again, via the standard language) and
> > just general peace and prosperity like this computer has never seen
> > before.
> >
> > Ian Butler 
> > Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

I think you took me a little out of context there, deleting a paragraph
between the last thing I said and my signature. <:-|

> Boy, you really are a dreamer. :-) Not that that is necessarily bad
> but dreamers tend to get hurt when reality rears its ugly head.

Yes, I know.  Being an active member of the Scorched Earth Party, my duty
is to inform you of my reality via my very real imaginary lead pipe.  HA!
HA HA! :)

> What might be more realistic is to get all those people that are
> going to develope that "load of apps" for Linux-86 to develope for
> DOS on the 200lx right now. After all if the 200lx is so great it
> shouldn't matter if it is DOS or Linux that it runs, the programmers
> should be beating down or doors to write programs for us. :-)

Well, my thought was that with a well-developed ELKS-based Linux-86,
(incidentally, we'll have to do a *lot* of the ELKS development ourselves,
and not just 200LX-specific implementation details,) we'll be able to
provide an attractive platform for developers, who could easily port their
software from a full Linux implementation to the minimal LXix one.

> As far as a standard programming base and open source, DOS pretty
> much has that now. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't EVERYONE'S
> 200lx have the same version of DOS, there is your standard
> programming base. As far as open source, there are hundreds of books
> on DOS, there are NO secrets left, you can't get much more open than
> that. True we don't have the source for the OS itself but that is
> hardly needed when it is as FULLY documented as DOS has been over the
> years. To be truthful, the documentation on programming for DOS is
> ALOT better than what is available for Linux. You almost HAVE to have
> access to Linux source to figure out how to do certain things.

Hmm.  I think you're getting off the true nature of open source systems.
Now, it's true that everyone has MS-DOS ROM 5.00, and everyone can get the
PAL for their C development.  You say, "there are NO secrets left, you
can't get much more open that that" -- but that isn't the point.  A
complete open-source system from the ground up will make such a difference
that you would be truly amazed.  My experience with Linux is that the
cooperative attitude promotes amazing amounts of progress.  If you find a
bug in another person's program, you can simply fix the code and inform
the author.  Likely you have not seen the magic worked by the General
Public License; but major companies are starting to.  Netscape, for
example, released their Communicator source under the GPL.  Things are
going down in the real world, and if we don't at least make a wholehearted
attempt to keep up, we'll be forever stuck in the venerable but quickly
aging MS-DOS.

Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
                -- Henry Spencer

And what is MS-DOS, if not a poorly reinvented Unix?

> Then we get to the GUI, I would really like to SEE X-Windows on a
> 200lx, of course nothing would actually move so I would have plenty
> of time to study it. :-) X is slow on high end hardware, I can't
> imagine how slow it would be on an 80(1)86, even double speed. You
> have to remember X is alot more that just pretty graphics, it is
> quite complicated "under the hood" so to speak.

Again, you're missing the point.  Initial work on an X-ish graphics system
will be focused on providing a standard library set for making System
Manager-like programs.  It's not AfterStep; it's SysMan.  And we're not
shooting for X compliance, it will just increase the usefulness of LXix by
including System Manager-like functionality.  And keep in mind that the
System Manager is a pretty slow application itself.  If we rewrite it the
way we (the users) want it to work, it'll be quicker and more functional
right off the bat.

> Oh well, don't mean to burst you bubble, we always need dreamers just
> to keep us moving forward. Just don't set your hopes too high, the
> fall can be very painful. :-(

For example, if I'd told you that it would be possible to
play polyphonic music or play videos or WAV files, you would have asked
what I'd been smoking.  Well, now you're asking me what I'm smoking.  Now,
I'm not a systems programmer at heart.  But I'm getting excited responses
from those that are.  You can play with DOS as much as you want; chances
are you'll switch to LXix when it's running.

Deployment speed is an issue.  Well, we've got everything on our side: a
working Linux-86 kernel, talented programmers, and the throttle wide open.
You watch.  This will happen.

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

The Roman Rule
        The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the
        one who is doing it.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:34:08 +1100
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Why don't we use Minix instead of ELKS to base LXix on?  It's not freeware
the way that ELKS is, howver all source code is availible, it has a working
C compiler, telnet etc that runs on the machine itself, and can actually
work ok on an XT or 286.  Why not leave Linux (ELKS) to the 386's and above?

Overall, though, I think LXix is a great idea, and I'll be happy to help it
get off the ground!

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:29:51 -0500, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

>I remember someone on the list actually rewired a small touch pad and =
said
>he used if with "fingerpaint" ... sounded cool to me.

I have a Cirque Easycat touch pad, which works fine on the HP.

>Since I can get my hands on a trackball or two, do those that recommend
>trying this use the HP serial cable Ýto convert from the HP square =
serial
>connector to the 9-pin d-shaped critter¨?

It comes with a 9 pin D connector - just connect it to the HP cable using
the 9 pin adaptor.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:13:18 +1300
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I have sent an email regarding blank lines apearing on the left side of my
200LX's screen a few weeks ago. I dismantled the screen according to
instructions I have received. (Thank you very much John.) Unfortunately no
amount of cleaning contacts / fiddling around would solve the problem and I
got fed up having to press the screen to read things on the left side of the
screen so I duly sent it in for a quote from the HP. It turns out that it
willl cost me NZ$675 (+/- US$ 350) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I think this sums up my disillusionment, I have included a copy of me
email in response:

|Dear Tony,
|
|Considering that I bought the 200LX brand new for $800 a few years ago,
|paying $675 to repair 3 blank lines strikes me as ridiculous. I have in the
|past bought several HP products (including a HP95LX and then the HP100LX)
|because I have found that HP products are reliable and also because I was
|under the impression that if I did have problems it could be sorted out
| anywhere in the world. I did not bargain on having repairs cost
practically
|as much as replacing the unit.
|
|In other words, no, I do not accept the quote and will in future restrict
my
|purchasing to companies that can supply an after sales service at a
|reasonable price.
|
|Regards,
|Stefan Lombaard
|
|
|-----Original Message-----
|From: TONY_ABBOTT@Non-HP-NewZealand-om1.om.hp.com
|
|To: slombaard@clear.net.nz 
|Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 12:11 PM
|Subject: opps re emailed quote for 200lx hp reference A0708
|
|

Think I will contact Thaddeus about a used 200LX instead.

Anyway, enough moaning & groaning.

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard

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> I think DC is a program witch was comming with the version 3 of laplink.
> I will be please to have a copy, I was never eable to find my old copy =
of it.

I guess it is still under copyright :(. Thaddeus sells used
HP95 connectivity packs for $25

I doubt that DC95 and DCS95 will run under IR, because the IR
port changed quite a bit from HP95LX to HP100LX

I was even able to run Win3.11 on top of DC95 on the desktop
and use PaintShop to manipulate pictures on the palmtop.

> One question, why LxPic can't manage Tiff files?

TIFF is only an envelope for a collection of different (not
well specified) formats. I can't implement all of them because
of memory restrictions and refuse to only implement one.
Besides, TIFF does not compress well unless you use a subformat
similar to JPEG. But then you could use JPEG right away.

> one wish for LXmap (or one idea).
> The option to see another pict or map when you select a spot.
> For exemple, you select (display) a spot where you want to scuba dive,
> and you can switch to another view (a beach pic)

I stopped LxMap development at the moment because not many
maps appeared. It doesn't seem to meet the users needs.
But I'll put your idea on my (maybe) todo list.

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I just got a used 200LX 2 days ago and I love it!

I have a question that I can't find an answer to in
the user guide...
When I press the Memo Application key, it just
beeps and does nothing. I can access the Memo
Application with an icon in 'More Applications', but
I would prefer that the key work.

Any ideas what might be wrong?

TIA,
Steve

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>All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
>screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.

I don't necessarily agree. We discussed the possibilities a couple of
years back. But today we seem to have a lot of bright hardware people.
One of them may be inspired to come up with a solution (and a business).

There must be a market for a tiny battery-powered motherboard with a 386
(to save power) to which one could add a screen (1 - 24 lines), a data
input device, a data storage device and whatever else is needed. The
market could be any realtime project (with something like a QNX
microkernel?): data aquisition, home automation, warehousing etc. If a
such was small enough we may be able to build it into an old palmtop
"shell" ...

>Let's all get real, here.  Eventually, we're all doomed, folks.   (Unles=
s
>you consider sargeant's battle cries for NEW and IMPROVED PIM software..=
=2E)

Well, the problem with PIM applications are that they do not run on the
desktops. Personally I would not spend time on developing applications
with such a limited scope - I only use software I can use on any of my
computers.

If you want software with a small footprint in DOS, develop in assembler
or languages with a small runtime system such as Turbo Pascal or
Topspeed Modula-2 - or make libraries as passive TSR's (kind-of DLL's).

Jorgen

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I have a question.  I have a Notebook PC with an IR port on it.
Is there a way to transfer data from my notebook to the 200LX
using the IR ports?  Thanks!

Brian S
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I've written and uploaded two filters that convert the international
characters supported by the HP 200LX from the MS-DOS code page to the
ISO Latin-1 character set used in windows, and vice versa.

(check http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/topfiles.pl)

--
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I can't find it now and my memory is NOT serving but isn't there a proper
order to installing main and backup batteries? Perhaps this is Nick's
problem.

Mike Mac Donald WA2E
mailto:mikemacd@erols.com

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, N.L. Calceanu wrote:

> hi all,
>
> i've an annoying problem with my 200lx. trying to start it, it beeps
> twice, the topcard flashes just enough to see the very low main
> battery warning , then it goes off again. but batteries are good. the
> only remedy is to take all batteries out for a couple of hours, then
> restore everything from a flash card. after some days (sometimes just
> hours) it happens again.
>
> i use mainly nicads (when happened the first time about a month ago,
> it was on duracells alkaline though) and changed (just in case) the
> back-up cell. if going to setup screen on ac i can see the gauge
> falling suddenly from full to empty (alkalines) or to low on nicads.
> the back-up cell gets real warm, but this might be normal, never
> touched it before. everything else works, as usual for a 200lx,
> perfectly.
>
> i would appreciate any ideas
>
> regards,
> nick calceano
>
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>>just how do pronounce "LXix" anyways?? :¨
>>
>>--francois

I would guess that one would pronounce it like unix, but replace the "un" with
"luxe", as in de luxe.  Lucks' icks

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If the unit is used, the setups may have gotten corrupted somewhere along
the way, or the previous owner may have tinkered with the setups (you may
want to check the autoexec.bat file and see if "key200" is being
used...this builtin program allows you to re-program the keys and may be
fouled up).

My suggestion is to backup or copy what data you have on the unit (if any)
and reinitialize the entire unit. This will cause you to lose all your data
on the palmtop, but it's probably best to start fresh.

OTOH, don't do this if you have a double speed unit, as it needs software
drivers to make the screen work properly, and those drivers aren't built
into the unit as everything else is. Double speed units usually have a
driver like "spd31.sys" in the config.sys.

- Longden






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I just got a used 200LX 2 days ago and I love it!

I have a question that I can't find an answer to in
the user guide...
When I press the Memo Application key, it just
beeps and does nothing. I can access the Memo
Application with an icon in 'More Applications', but
I would prefer that the key work.

Any ideas what might be wrong?

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I believe some users have had luck after switching their notebook IR from
the default IRDA setting to SIR (serial IR, for the notebooks that support
this option). Beyond that, I'm not sure what software they used to do the
transfer, and I don't have a notebook myself. I would think that
Win95/Hyperterminal and Datacomm would minimally work.

- Longden





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I have a question.  I have a Notebook PC with an IR port on it.
Is there a way to transfer data from my notebook to the 200LX
using the IR ports?  Thanks!

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Rick, have at it!  During the last couple of days, I've spent a few hours
searching various DOS sites to find a program that would accomplish the
task.  After downloading a dozen programs, with the greatest potential, I
have yet to find anything that will accurately reproduce the screen in text
mode.  We all look forward to your results.


2. read the font ROM


This point turns out to be a problem. There's an int 10h function (ah=db)
that fills a buffer with the ROM-based font structure. It give a formula for
figuring out how big the buffer should be:

5*2 + 6*2*128 + (8+8+11+12)*2*m = 29,392 bytes (so, I calculate m=357????)

but I can't find the spot where it spells out the fields of the structure. I
tried looking through the data to no avail.

I also tried going direct to the Hornet registers (-9ch & -9dh defined on p
504 ) to see where they point. The values I read are 2 & 91, and I interpret
that as pointing to A400:0. However, using debug, I see code in that area,
not font data. Might I need to bankswitch to see the font data?

Can anyone help on either of these fronts?

thx
rick

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I think the proper order for installation is AA first, then backup battery
(I don't have my book in front of me tho, I just remember it was different
than I expected when I first got my LX eons ago).

Sounds more like Nick has a faulty battery circuit, or maybe a software
problem. Since his problem recovers after a few hours sans batteries, maybe
he's on the right track but needs to drain the unit completely by removing
AA's and backup batteries out overnight. I think another alternative to
this is to remove all batteries and press and hold the ON key for a minute
to drain the system. If that doesn't do it....he should send it back (if he
can).

- Longden





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I can't find it now and my memory is NOT serving but isn't there a proper
order to installing main and backup batteries? Perhaps this is Nick's
problem.

Mike Mac Donald WA2E
mailto:mikemacd@erols.com

On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, N.L. Calceanu wrote:

> hi all,
>
> i've an annoying problem with my 200lx. trying to start it, it beeps
> twice, the topcard flashes just enough to see the very low main
> battery warning , then it goes off again. but batteries are good. the
> only remedy is to take all batteries out for a couple of hours, then
> restore everything from a flash card. after some days (sometimes just
> hours) it happens again.
>
> i use mainly nicads (when happened the first time about a month ago,
> it was on duracells alkaline though) and changed (just in case) the
> back-up cell. if going to setup screen on ac i can see the gauge
> falling suddenly from full to empty (alkalines) or to low on nicads.
> the back-up cell gets real warm, but this might be normal, never
> touched it before. everything else works, as usual for a 200lx,
> perfectly.

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At 06:33 PM 10/22/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I have LL3 and LL5. Can you please send the settings over? Thanks!
>
>PS. I use Norton Commander 5 for syncing my palmtop and the desktop, but
it tends to
>have it's hiccups...

Nicholas,

     I copied the software off of the palmtop itself.  This
ensured that there were no incompatabilities.  I edited the
ini file on the PC to make it the server (and change its
name).

ÝRedirector¨
Enabled=Yes

     I also changed the comm port to COM2 and the associated
address and IRQ.  The LLRA.BAT was changed so all D:'s became
E:'s, and added the subdirectory where I copied the files.

     The following was the post on dejanews that got me to
try LapLink.

<< - - - - -
>I'm not using it(LLRA),but you might want to try these settings:

LapLink doesn't work in a normal emulated DOS session, apparently
because drive letters can't be redirected.  (It'll run, but the drive
letters won't work.  LLRA actually also works as a server at the same
time, and this is unaffected, but you have to make your palmtop the
client, and exit the App Manager first to do this.)  LapLink does work
if you boot a VDM from a floppy disk (and presumably also a disk image
or a hard drive partition.  Don't try booting from a floppy disk
smaller than 360K.  I tried this so I could make a smaller disk image,
but it won't boot properly.)  You can actually run winos2 from a DOS
session booted from a floppy.  You might well decide that it's easier
just to use the Filer and forget about using LapLink from OS/2.

>COM_DIRECT_ACCESS   ON
>COM_HOLD           ON
>COM_SELECT         (the port your using)
>DOS_HIGH           ON
>DOS_LASTDRIVE      Z
>HW_ROM_TO_RAM      ON
>HW_TIMER           ON

<< - - - - -

     I haven't tried the VDM from a floppy disk as working
from the palmtop is adequate for me.  Also,

DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION ON

(apparently the default) allows me to play a cardgame while
copying a large group of files.  A vote for the wanted
features in the next generation of palmtops is OS/2, there
is no better multisession DOS multitasker around!  And IBM
has a ROMable version as well.

Steve

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:35:31 -0400
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You are absolutely right.  Magellan's .ZIP file viewer pre-dates the
now-ubiquitous standard PKzip V2.04g (I think that's right).  So I can read
the directory listings of most .ZIP files, but the innards of their contents
are protected by an "UNKNOWN COMPRESSION METHOD" message.

XtreeGold V2.5 has .ZIP viewers that can read the current standard .ZIP
files' contents.  This was probably the last useful thing done for XtreeGold
by its makers, Executive Systems, Inc..  After they got acquired, they made
the stupidest attempts to re-create Xtree for Microsoft Windows and botched
every try.  (Now there's the excellent ZtreeWin, which Symantec had nothing
to do with - but it's not for palmtops.)  Of course, with XtreeGold there's
no indexing, so searches take longer.

Alan

>From:  Claud G. Cameron ÝSMTP:cameronc@ix.netcom.com¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, October 21, 1998 9:33 PM
>
>Have you found a way to update the viewer files?  That is, the
>files that allow you to look into the zip archives, etc.?  I'm
>not sure, but I think Magellan came out with viewers for the
>next to last version of PKZIP.  If there is a way to do this,
>it would be great!

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Sounds like the phone.pdb file is corrupted. You can try running GARLIC on
it (available from the SUPER site...remember to make a backup copy of the
pdb file first as GARLIC is often brutal when it comes to massaging the
data). The problem may be happening as a result of a rogue application
corrupting buffers used by an open phone.pdb file....wild guess, but it
sounds good. Also not a good idea to re-boot your system while your phone
app is still open, tho sometimes you have no choice.

2nd question. I have a 2x/6mb LX and my driver (SPD31.SYS, 752 bytes,
10/6/96) shows "v1.5b" during the boot-up. You can request a copy of the
latest driver from Mack (if it's his driver you're supposed to be
using)...look at his website at http://www.times2tech.com for info on doing
that.

- Longden





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I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem and if so what
could be causing it?

Machine: 200LX, double speed, 2 meg origionally upped to 5 meg

Problem: Every once in a while my phone list is messed up.  I notice it
by things being out of alphabetical order.  An entry will be in the
wrong place.  Upon investigating that more, I noticed that the out of
order entry is actually duplicated within the database and the other one
is in the right place.  If I delete the offending entry, both the out of
order entry and the correctly placed one will go away.  As if the out of
order entry is an alias or shortcut to the origional within the phone
database.  I have never had this happen in anything else.  My only
repair has been to go back to a backup that does not show the problems
and rebuild any changes in the newer one before deleting it.

Second question / Idea:  Are the doublespeed system correction files
possibly out of date?  Are their different versions of the double speed
correction files and if so, how would I go about getting the newest
versions and how would I tell which versions I have?

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C Compiler
----------

For those of you looking for a simple C compiler for use on the 200LX, may I
recommend Power C.

This is a very basic ANSI C compiler.  No text editor and very cryptic error
codes.

However, for only $19.95 + $8 s/h you get the compiler on a 3.5" floppy and a
660 page soft cover manual.  Plus, it runs on any DOS compatible PC (don't know
about the 95LX).

Nice for creating fast, compact executables, and a good way to get some
experience in C.

MIX Software: (800)333-0330


External Floppy Drive
---------------------

I am currently involved with a project where we are testing vehicle components
in the field.

The problem is:
  1. We are using an instrumented vehicle provided by the customer
  2. It uses a custom built data acquisition system
  3. The on vehicle data acquisition system has no built in analysis
capabilities, so
     there is no way we can check to see if a test produced valid data before
moving
     on to the next test (set-up for each test takes over an hour and these
tests are
     very weather dependent)

What I have done is write a QuickBASIC program for my 200LX that does some
basic analysis of the data and produces various on-screen plots, allowing me to
check the quality of the data before moving on to the next test.

In order to get the data file into my 200LX, I purchased an Accurite Travel
Floppy 144, external 3.5" floppy disk drive.

This drive works great.  Installation was easy and I have had no problems
accessing files located on the floppy.

This drive interfaces with the 200LX via a PCMCIA card.  The card's ROM files
are accessible through A: drive and the 3.5" floppy drive is configured as F:
drive.

It is very compact and light weight.  Quality seems good.  Good technical
support.  Works on the 200LX, DOS PC's and Windows PC's.

However, it does have some drawbacks:
  - Price: $259 + $8 s/h
  - Technical support not available through an 800 number (probably not needed)
  - Uses PCMCIA slot
  - Because of the 200LX's PCMCIA slot's power limitations, an AC adapter must
be used,
    limiting portability (probably not needed for other applications)
      NOTE: It might be possible to put together an external 5VDC battery
            pack to power the drive

Available through Accurite 510-668-4900  http://www.accurite.com
or One Stop Palmshop 800-709-9494

Michael Stocker
e-mail: mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
home page: http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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WORK.

>
>You know, this gives me a great idea for a contest.... what's the most
>hideous thing you've ever used your LX for?  
>

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Why not call it the DOS LX UniX (DLUX) operating system. Or is that too
cheesy?

Or Tiny UniX (TUX) if you want to go formal .

- Longden





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>>just how do pronounce "LXix" anyways?? :¨
>>
>>--francois

I would guess that one would pronounce it like unix, but replace the "un"
with
"luxe", as in de luxe.  Lucks' icks

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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:
1.- Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the ot=
her
one in fairly good condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded hing=
e
or   the non working latch syndrome
2.- Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and manuals,=
 as
well as the software
3.- 1 printer cable
4.- Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
5.- 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop paper by
Thaddeus Computing
6.- Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running windows 3=
.1
7.- A PC in your pocket book
8.- A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
9.- A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
10.- A 512 KB PC card
? If I find anything else I=92ll throw it into the package
I wanna sell the whole package at once, as for payment, am all ears for a
decent bid, in that bid please include shipping, about $20 us dollars. Al=
so,
I=92d consider taking as payment a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of those da=
rn
wince machines with wince 2 software and a modem in it, with all that com=
es
in the box,

Please answer to my private Mail

Thank you very much for your time and attention

Arturo Galindo

agalindo@mail.giga.com

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              Arturo Galindo 
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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:
? Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the othe=
r
one in fairly good condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded hing=
e
or   the non working latch syndrome
? Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and manuals, a=
s
well as the software
? 1 printer cable
? Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
? 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop paper by
Thaddeus Computing
? Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running windows 3.1
? A PC in your pocket book
? A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
? A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
? A 512 KB PC card
? If I find anything else I=92ll throw it into the package
I wanna sell the whole package at once, as for payment, am all ears for a
decent bid, in that bid please include shipping, about $20 us dollars. Al=
so,
I=92d consider taking as payment a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of those da=
rn
wince machines with wince 2 software and a modem in it, with all that com=
es
in the box,

Please answer to my private Mail

Thank you very much for your time and attention

Arturo Galindo

agalindo@mail.giga.com

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              "Carson, Jon A." 
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STOP USING THE FOUR LETTER WORDS ALREADY !!!!!  :-)



> ----------
> From:         Phil DrummondÝSMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
> Subject:      Re: LX Case reinforcement    FLUFF
>
> WORK.
>
> >
> >You know, this gives me a great idea for a contest.... what's the most
> >hideous thing you've ever used your LX for?  
> >
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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:
? Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the othe=
r
one in fairly good condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded hing=
e
or   the non working latch syndrome
? Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and manuals, a=
s
well as the software
? 1 printer cable
? Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
? 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop paper by
Thaddeus Computing
? Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running windows 3.1
? A PC in your pocket book
? A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
? A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
? A 512 KB PC card
? If I find anything else I=92ll throw it into the package
I wanna sell the whole package at once, as for payment, am all ears for a
decent bid, in that bid please include shipping, about $20 us dollars. Al=
so,
I=92d consider taking as payment a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of those da=
rn
wince machines with wince 2 software and if possible a modem in it, with =
all
that comes in the box,

Please answer to my private Mail

Thank you very much for your time and attention

Arturo Galindo

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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:

    a.. Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, =
the other one in fairly good condition, neither one shows signs of the =
dreaded hinge or the non working latch syndrome
    b.. Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and =
manuals, as well as the software
    a.. 1 printer cable
    b.. Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
    c.. 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop =
paper by Thaddeus Computing
    d.. Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running =
windows 3.1
    e.. A PC in your pocket book
    f.. A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
    g.. A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
    h.. A 512 KB PC card=20
    i.. If I find anything else I=92ll throw it into the package
I wanna sell the whole package at once, as for payment, am all ears for =
a decent bid, in that bid please include shipping, about $20 us dollars. =
Also, I=92d consider taking as payment a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of =
those darn wince machines with wince 2 software and if possible a modem =
in it, with all that comes in the box,=20

Please answer to my private Mail=20

Thank you very much for your time and attention=20

Arturo Galindo


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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:


    
    
  • Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, =
the other=20
    one in fairly good condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded =
hinge=20
    or the non working latch syndrome
    • 
    
  • Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and =
manuals, as=20
    well as the software


    
    
  • 1 printer cable
    • 
    
  • Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
    • 
    
  • 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop =
paper by=20
    Thaddeus Computing
    • 
    
  • Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running =
windows=20
    3.1
    • 
    
  • A PC in your pocket book
    • 
    
  • A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
    • 
    
  • A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
    • 
    
  • A 512 KB PC card 
    • 
    
  • If I find anything else I’ll throw it into the =
package


I wanna sell the whole package at once, as for payment, am all ears =
for a=20
decent bid, in that bid please include shipping, about $20 us dollars. =
Also,=20
I’d consider taking as payment a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of =
those darn=20
wince machines with wince 2 software and if possible a modem in it, with =
all=20
that comes in the box, 


Please answer to my private Mail 


Thank you very much for your time and attention 


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From Ken

Cirque Glide Point Portable is the touch pad I use.  It now works with
every program that has mouse support.  I remember how awkward I was with
the first macintosh mouse and then with the track ball.  I find now the
touch pad on the lx easy and very natural to use.  With the short
pigtail cable it is easy to use in my lap and on a surface.  If I had it
to do over I might have had Shier make the cable end for me.

Finger paint, Word Perfect, Draft Choice, MS Word 5.5 have been checked
out so far.  I am having a little problem with it whin the Application
Manager is open.  When, even under SW Carousel the Application Manager
is closed every thing is fine.  Under HDM it seems to be OK even when
"&" is open.  This is probablya autoexec.bat order problem.  At least
that is what I am working on.

ken r

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:12:50 -0400
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              Rachelle Kranz 
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Tiny UniX (TUX) is pretty cute esp. since the Unix Mascot's name is Tux ( a
penguin)      :-)
Rachelle
rkranz@sfwmd.gov

Longden Loo wrote:

> Why not call it the DOS LX UniX (DLUX) operating system. Or is that too
> cheesy?
>
> Or Tiny UniX (TUX) if you want to go formal .
>
> - Longden
>
> "LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2"  on 10/22/98
> 05:30:23 AM
>
> Please respond to HPLX Mailing List ; Please
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>       
>
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> cc:    (bcc: Longden Loo/WL/Candle)
> Subject:  Re: HPLX-L Digest - 21 Oct 1998
>
> >>just how do pronounce "LXix" anyways?? :¨
> >>
> >>--francois
>
> I would guess that one would pronounce it like unix, but replace the "un"
> with
> "luxe", as in de luxe.  Lucks' icks
>
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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:37:59 -0400
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" 
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Shame on you for using a four lettered word in public. Some one get the
soap.  ;}


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Drummond ÝSMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 1998 9:57 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: LX Case reinforcement    FLUFF
>
> WORK.
>
> >You know, this gives me a great idea for a contest.... what's the
> most
> >hideous thing you've ever used your LX for?  
>

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:55:59 -0500
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              Phil Drummond 
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The TransPC card fits this request very nicely and provides LPT support
as well.  Data transfer between two TransPC cards is so fast as to be
all most instant.  Also you can insert the T-PC card into any laptop and
get the same support, where as a dedicated null-card setup might prove
to be HP (or whatever) specific.

Phil


>
>    My PCMCIA idea: why no null-modem out there? I mean a pair of
>    cards cabled together that do nothing, but allow data transfer
>    a magnitude faster than modem or serial/parallel.
>
>
>                Sincerely:  Tamas Feher.
>

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Subject:      Re: connecting OS/2 and the 200LX with zip
Comments: To: Novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM

Steve,
When you say Laplink do you mean LLRA (which comes with the HP200LX) or the commercial version of Laplink. A couple years ago I was experimenting with OS/2 ver 3 and could never get a connection using the LLRA software. I got the TSRs to load and even got the little beep indicating handshaking had occurred but no drives would map. I tweaked almost every session parameter to no avail. I did get Laplink ver 5 to work albeit slowly but at the time I couldn't spare the space on my (then) 2 meg palmtop.

Since then I gave up on OS/2.

Rich

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              David Sargeant 
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Subject:      Re: HPLX-L Digest - 21 Oct 1998
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2 wrote:

> >>just how do pronounce "LXix" anyways?? :¨
>
> I would guess that one would pronounce it like unix, but replace the
> "un" with "luxe", as in de luxe.  Lucks' icks

When Ian came up with it, he said it was pronounced "Lex-ix," or "Lecks'
icks" (emphasis on the first syllable).

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:11:09 -0400
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Donald Collins wrote:
>
> I am working on a project to create a Lotus 123 function & macro database.  However, the job has turned out to be bigger than I thought and I could use some help.  I intend to post the file on SUPER but not until it is complete.  If there are any Lotus enthusiasts out there with the appropriate manuals,  I would like to divide up the work load.

Isn't there one on SUPER already?  I know I have one; maybe I got it
from CIS.  It's called 123help.gdb. If you want it I'll put it on my
website tonight.


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DKK D
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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:15:37 -0500
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              Ted Heise 
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Why not call it the DOS LX UniX (DLUX) operating system. Or is that too
> cheesy?
>
> Or Tiny UniX (TUX) if you want to go formal .


Very good, Longden.  :)

It's good to see you back on the list, by the way.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 12:30:18 -0500
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              Hal Goldstein 
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Hi Brian,

<>

You can order it from our new site, www.PalmtopPaper.com.  There is a
detailed description there also.

(We are still working out final glitches but things seem to be pretty
stable.)

Also, we now are exclusively selling Sandisk cards at new pricing.

Hal from Thaddeus

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<>

I've forwarded the original note to Mack.  The 64MB optimize bug has
been fixed and had to do with the SC PGM file. In my limited testing
OPTIMIZE works as stand-alone on 32MB and 64MB drive.

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><OPTIMIZE.  I'm not sure what the problem is, but I believe Hal mentioned
>it before-- perhaps in relation to the 64MB Optimize bug?>>
>
>I've forwarded the original note to Mack.  The 64MB optimize bug has
>been fixed and had to do with the SC PGM file. In my limited testing
>OPTIMIZE works as stand-alone on 32MB and 64MB drive.

The only thing I could think that it would be is if OPTIMIZE doesn't have enough
memory to complete the task.  Make sure you don't run it from a DOS prompt from
within System Manager and that you run it from plain DOS with minimal TSR's
loaded.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:12:14 -0400
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              Feher Tamas 
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Subject:      Fringe, hardware upgrade, S3MX, etc.

        Hello all,

    Toughest uses for HPLX: I visited a webapge about 6 months ago
    where a guy wrote about experiences riding the ex-soviet Mig-25
    for a few bucks. 25,000+ meters and Mach 2,87. He also noted
    that his 100LX was with him. That's edge of space.

    Also this was the machine that inspired Sailor Moon staff to
    invent Molly Mercure's battle computer. It's episode 45 today
    also Kurosawa's Seven Samurais this midnight. High body count.

    Hardware dreams: I bet 96MB will be the end. Backlight may come
    one day; maybe a small footprint attached pointer as well.
    Less probable: a project to investigate to see which Hornet pins
    are unused and what function could those serve.
    E.g.: a real small DSP package and microphone could be integrated.
    Any more must be external add-on: color picture display on
    attached digital still camera, GSM modem in phones. Even the
    processing power may be boosted or external video done on PCMCIA.
    I bet such a product should use a higher-level device to 186 CPU
    communication; ala Weitek or TIGA, to take off load from Hornet.
    Market size for such products (external VGA/Tiga PCMCIA and HP48
    hw. emulator PC card with FP support) makes a sure business fall.

    Battery life: With 64MB and Flashcard it goes down to 12hrs.
    Any lower and its a PC110/Libretto. A continous charging
    circuitry with attached solar panel fitted onto upper clamshell
    of the 200LX may solve the problem soon. I think one should go
    up there and get a few m2 of hi-power panels from a satellite.

    Or a thermoelectric device: you wear it in your pocket, close
    to your warm body. Extract the body heat and turn it into DC.
    Choose: you freeze or the palmtop...

>Psion just upgraded their Series 3 with an 3MX (see below) but:
> - 27 mhz x86, good battery life, but no DOS
> - 2 meg memory
> - SDD (not PCMCIA) memory cards that are expensive.

    Wow, 27MHz! Where in the hell can they get new hi-speed 8086?
    I'd say it's a pity, that there has never been a low-power 8087
    FPU. A combination of CPU+FPU for DOS at 27MHz would allow for
    running even demanding apps, like ACAD, SPICE effectively.
    However, what happens if you clock-triple a 200LX? Ever been
    tried, blows, melts, freezes? Is 18MHz the ultimate limit?
    We need to match that performance. What about cooling for CPU,
    say Peltier? Bet couldn't fit inside case, suck too much juice.

    I am the only one to think that Psion S3 is used more like an
    organizer? If they used it as a computer, there would be a need
    (and a supplier) for 3rd party internal memory expansion, etc.
    The overall storage available with SSD is 2+8=10MB, way few.
    So CPU speed doesn't mean much for Psion, but irritating for us.

    Also, there is no independent OS for S3a/c. It is a 8086, could
    run DOS natively with medium heavy porting project. Seems like no
    interest in that. The person, who wished to abandon his S5 here
    for the new S3MX should regret his decision soon.

    The S5 is a real computer, it's users consider it a computer.
    There is already a DOS emulator for it and it will be the
    pocketable Linux machine. The fewer, lamer built-in apps. are
    easy to forgive if you consider the open future of S5 computer.
    Symbion syndicate will drive the EPOC32 into 2000s.
    If the 3rd party swap keyboard, with smaller, more keys (numerics)
    and built in pointer ever hits the market; it may be choice of
    many HPLX deserters.

                Sincerely:  Tamas Feher.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:16:35 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Longden Loo wrote:

> Why not call it the DOS LX UniX (DLUX) operating system. Or is that too
> cheesy?
>
> Or Tiny UniX (TUX) if you want to go formal .

Lunix - Little Unix?


(Actually, I cannot take credit for that name, it is already being used in
a UNIX-like shell/program for the Commodore 64/128)


Regards,

Laust

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Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:23:29 +0100 (BST)

Greetings to all who can dial 0870 0909090 from a UK telephone.

If you create a BT Click setup in WWW}LX with that telephone number
and choose PPP and CHAP_Script and put Login=3D3Dx then you can establish
a PPP connection right now. No registration is required. It is an
unauthenticated service. Pure PPP. No email - hence no authentication
required - but you can go to usa.net for example and get a free POP3
address. All BT does is charge an extra 1p per minute for calls to
that number. The minimum charge is 5p which gives you 1.25 min during
weekdays, 3.33 min during weekday evenings/nights and 5 min at the
weekend, according to the BT Click web page. That doesn't seem quite
correct as a weekend call would cost 2p per minute, but I'm not
quibbling :)

Regards, Tony

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I still think it is very impt -- although putting Win95 or Linux would
certainly appeal to other segments.  However, the most likely buyers and
those easiest to contact would be existing palmtop owners.  These users
have data in built-in PIMs and most won't want to take the time to port
stuff to and learn another, even if it were better.

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Have you ever used the MENU Applications Sort Icons by name command?  If
you name them alphabetically in the order you want them, this works.
Also, you can name an icon so it sorts where you want it alphabetically.
Then you can rename it.  (However if you do this more than once, you'll
have to rename more than one icons).

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:34:57 -0700
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Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
>
> A different question:
>
> I called the Accurite folks a few days ago about the double-slot device they
> sell for the 200LX, they were very nice and VERY upfront about the fact that
> "90 percent of those with double-speed upgrades can't use the device..."!
>
> He said it had to do with the timing of the clock cycles and what their card
> expected.  They were willing to sell me one and take it back, if it didn't
> work (and KUDOS to them for being so up-front about this), but I wondered
> what indicators I could find that I might be in the 10% of those who could
> use this attachment successfully.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this one?
>
> TIA
>
> --tim
>
Hi, Tim.

I have the Accurite doubleslot and am using it with my 2x 200lx. It
works well. My combo works without any mods to the drivers - even though
I have seen a patch out there for the doubleslot to work with 2x
machines. I think that this patch must be for older revisions of the
double slot because I don't seem to need it.

I tried it once to attempt to correct the one problem that I've come
across, which is:

When I use my modem (Mhz1144) and SRAM card at the same time, there is
normally no problem - but when I tell www/lx to use the SRAM as its
cache or tell post to write the incoming messages to the SRAM, the
machine locks up when it tries to write to the card. I sort of work
around this by keeping www/lx on the SRAM card and the cache/mail
directories on the C:\ drive. (I need to do these types of things on my
1 meg machine.) - Now it SEEMS like this is a limitation of the
doubleslot. I have tried 3 doublespeed drivers and a few cic drivers to
no avail. I have not had a chance to try the T2T doublespeed driver tho,
because my 2x is not T2T. More interestingly, I seem to remember that
nettamer and the built in Comm software do not have this problem. It may
be the SRAM card I have - perhaps flash will not have the boggle. Or it
may be my particular 2x crystal. It is a japanese one.
31-point-something Mhz.

This is the _only_ problem I've had,otherwise, I highly recommend the
doubleslot. It allows me to use the SRAM and a type III hard drive at
the same time. The ATA driver that comes with doubleslot makes the SRAM
A:\ and the HD F:\. I can use Filer to transfer files back and forth. I
can run win 3.0 off the F:\ drive. The palmtops PCMCIA slot can power
both the SRAM or Flash along with the modem at the same time. If I run
the LX with and adapter, I can run the HD and SRAM at the same time too.
-- Only  do this in an emergency for a few minutes for quick transfers
as it does cause warming of the LX (screen fade, etc). The doubleslot
does come with a 5 volt adapter which I'll bet gives the Doubleslot
enough juice to run probably any type II or III card, including lots of
cards that the LX by itsself can't power.

Hope this helps.

Darren.

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Hi Stefan,

If you want, it may be cheaper for you to send your unit to us.  We'll
fix it for $125 plus $35 overseas shipping.  However, of course, we will
be happy to sell you a used 200LX.


Hal at Thaddeus

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Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:39:29 +0100 (BST)

01h01m34s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:37:55 -0400, Tony Hutchins wrote:

> If you create a BT Click setup in WWW}LX with that telephone number
> and choose PPP and CHAP_Script and put Login=3D3Dx then you can establis=
h
> a PPP connection right now.

Oops I was tricked (copied a raw posting sent to Cserve and picked up a
bit of explicit MIME)- Login=3Dx will do. Actually Login=3Danything would
work, anything tha is non-null. Both DNS entries in the setup can be
totally blank and the password too. Just that Login seems to need
something.

No newsgroups I guess. That's about the only drawback. It's a great
service for anyone resident or even visiting the UK.

Regards, Tony

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Dan Carrington wrote:
>
> Problem: Every once in a while my phone list is messed up.  I notice it
> by things being out of alphabetical order.  An entry will be in the
> wrong place.  Upon investigating that more, I noticed that the out of
> order entry is actually duplicated within the database and the other one
> is in the right place.  If I delete the offending entry, both the out of
> order entry and the correctly placed one will go away. ......

Try the File/Copy menu entry of phonebook (or extract?) and use the
generated file - this may remove the described effects. I remember this
from long time ago.
I use a 2x200LX. I think it's not because of double speed.

Do you use the subset function (F6-key)? If the definition isn't unique
for all entries, this may produce some unexpected results.

Good luck
 Hermann

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Again,  Hi there y'all. please excuse my resendig the present mesage, but in
my former one, I forgot to write that I will only sell in ne package, that
is I will not separate.


Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to sell the following:
1.- Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the other
one in excelent condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded hinge
or   the non working latch syndrome
2.- Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and manuals,
as well as the software
3.- 1 printer cable
4.- Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
5.- 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop paper by
Thaddeus Computing
6.- Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running windows 3.1
7.- A PC in your pocket book
8.- A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
9.- A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
10.- A 512 KB PC card
? If I find anything else I'll throw it into the package
I wanna sell the whole package at once, and will not sell it bits. As for
payment, am all ears for a decent bid. Also, I'd consider taking as payment
a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of those darn wince machines with wince 2
software and a modem in it, with all that comes in the box.
Please answer to my private mail
Thank you very much for your time and attention
Arturo Galindo

agalindo@mail.giga.com

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I've started a new contest at my web site.  It should prove much easier
for people to enter than the last contests; all you have to do is fill out
a quick survey and the winners will be chosen randomly.  Prizes include
8MB upgrades, speed upgrades, WWW/LX Plus 2.0, TimeTracker/LX, ABC/LX, and
credits with Thaddeus.

I have also posted interviews with Avi Meshar and Andreas Garzotto of D&A
Software-- learn what makes D&A the company it is.  :)

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:25:18 EST
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Peter W. Borders wrote:
>
> > > computers), a basis for Open Source (again, via the standard language) and
> > > just general peace and prosperity like this computer has never seen
> > > before.
> > >
> > > Ian Butler 
> > > Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
> I think you took me a little out of context there, deleting a paragraph
> between the last thing I said and my signature. <:-|
>

I don't remember a paragraph being there but if you say so.


> > Boy, you really are a dreamer. :-) Not that that is necessarily bad
> > but dreamers tend to get hurt when reality rears its ugly head.
>
> Yes, I know.  Being an active member of the Scorched Earth Party, my duty
> is to inform you of my reality via my very real imaginary lead pipe.  HA!
> HA HA! :)
>
> > What might be more realistic is to get all those people that are
> > going to develope that "load of apps" for Linux-86 to develope for
> > DOS on the 200lx right now. After all if the 200lx is so great it
> > shouldn't matter if it is DOS or Linux that it runs, the programmers
> > should be beating down or doors to write programs for us. :-)
>
> Well, my thought was that with a well-developed ELKS-based Linux-86,
> (incidentally, we'll have to do a *lot* of the ELKS development ourselves,
> and not just 200LX-specific implementation details,) we'll be able to
> provide an attractive platform for developers, who could easily port their
> software from a full Linux implementation to the minimal LXix one.
>

It will NEVER be easy to port something from a full version of Linux
to ELKS, at least not anything bigger than grep. There are going to
be TOO many comprimises to even get ELKS to work that it will not
support half of what full linux does, and the half will have to be
hacked out of virtually every program ported. ELKS was originally
envisioned as an embedded system, not as a fully functional OS for
real time use. As such it is a good idea but trying to make it into a
fully functional OS is like trying to teach a pig to sing, it wastes
your time and annoys the pig.

> > As far as a standard programming base and open
source, DOS pretty
> > much has that now. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't EVERYONE'S
> > 200lx have the same version of DOS, there is your standard
> > programming base. As far as open source, there are hundreds of books
> > on DOS, there are NO secrets left, you can't get much more open than
> > that. True we don't have the source for the OS itself but that is
> > hardly needed when it is as FULLY documented as DOS has been over the
> > years. To be truthful, the documentation on programming for DOS is
> > ALOT better than what is available for Linux. You almost HAVE to have
> > access to Linux source to figure out how to do certain things.
>
> Hmm.  I think you're getting off the true nature of open source systems.
> Now, it's true that everyone has MS-DOS ROM 5.00, and everyone can get the
> PAL for their C development.  You say, "there are NO secrets left, you
> can't get much more open that that" -- but that isn't the point.  A
> complete open-source system from the ground up will make such a difference
> that you would be truly amazed.  My experience with Linux is that the
> cooperative attitude promotes amazing amounts of progress.  If you find a
> bug in another person's program, you can simply fix the code and inform
> the author.  Likely you have not seen the magic worked by the General
> Public License; but major companies are starting to.  Netscape, for
> example, released their Communicator source under the GPL.  Things are
> going down in the real world, and if we don't at least make a wholehearted
> attempt to keep up, we'll be forever stuck in the venerable but quickly
> aging MS-DOS.

The "magic" worked by the GPL is just that people everywhere can
support a central system. The idea that everyone is going to fix
other peoples bugs is a little far fetched. I would be willing to bet
that the majority of sites running Linux have not even looked at the
OS code closely. Many of them never even recompile the OS let alone
fix anyone elses bugs. Also, major companies are not jumping on the
GPL to magnanomously give away their code for the public good. The
ONLY reason that netscape is giving away communicator is to
circumvent MS giving away internet explorer. They one upped MS by
giving away code as well, which makes them look good. Also, while it
is true that more major companies are supporting Linux, they are NOT
releasing their source code, they are just porting their software in
house to Linux. There is a big difference there and it means that
these companies STILL won't support the 200lx even running ELKS since
they won't put forth the effort to port the software just for this
tiny market.

>
> Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
> poorly.                  -- Henry Spencer >
> And what is MS-DOS, if not a poorly reinvented Unix?

MS-DOS is in not way a poor Unix. MS-DOS has NOTHING in common wth
unix, which isn't suprising since it was based on CP/M which in turn
was based on TOPS-10 from DEC which came out long before Unix. you
really should read more about the history of computers and their OS's.

>
> > Then we get to the GUI, I would really like to SEE X-Windows on a
> > 200lx, of course nothing would actually move so I would have plenty
> > of time to study it. :-) X is slow on high end hardware, I can't
> > imagine how slow it would be on an 80(1)86, even double speed. You
> > have to remember X is alot more that just pretty graphics, it is
> > quite complicated "under the hood" so to speak.
>
> Again, you're missing the point.  Initial work on an X-ish graphics system
> will be focused on providing a standard library set for making System
> Manager-like programs.  It's not AfterStep; it's SysMan.  And we're not
> shooting for X compliance, it will just increase the usefulness of LXix by
> including System Manager-like functionality.  And keep in mind that the
> System Manager is a pretty slow application itself.  If we rewrite it the
> way we (the users) want it to work, it'll be quicker and more functional
> right off the bat.

Well then right off the bat you had better come up wth another name
than X since X has a specific meaning and specific functionality. All
you are talking about is graphic extensions to the console, similar
to the svgalib extensions that are available for Linux now. Don't
call something X when it is not even slightly X.

>
> > Oh well, don't mean to burst you bubble, we always need dreamers just
> > to keep us moving forward. Just don't set your hopes too high, the
> > fall can be very painful. :-(
>
> For example, if I'd told you that it would be possible to
> play polyphonic music or play videos or WAV files, you would have asked
> what I'd been smoking.  Well, now you're asking me what I'm smoking.  Now,
> I'm not a systems programmer at heart.  But I'm getting excited responses
> from those that are.  You can play with DOS as much as you want; chances
> are you'll switch to LXix when it's running.
>

I could play polyphonic music and video on my commodore 64, I would
certainly hope that more powerful hardware could do at least as well.
Of course what you left out was that your polyphonic music and videos
are extremely limited in nature and more of a curiosity than a useful
function, which is exactly what ELKS will turn out to be.

> Deployment speed is an issue.  Well, we've got everything on our side: a
> working Linux-86 kernel, talented programmers, and the throttle wide open.
> You watch.  This will happen.
>
> Ian Butler 
> Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
> The Roman Rule
>         The one who says it cannot be done should never interrupt the
>         one who is doing it.
>

You really are a dreamer. I have no doubt that someone, somewhere
will get something linux like to run on an 8086 and it might even
work on the 200lx, but it will be just another curiosity, not a
really useful replacement for DOS. Also, there will never be any
really useful apps ported to unix on the 200lx because it just
doesn't have the power to handle them. It doesn't matter how many
people want to do something, sometimes it just can't be done. Trying
to run a functional unix in less than 1m with no memory management is
about as impossible as you can get, and yes, some things are just
impossible and no matter how much you want them to they will never
work. If you don't beleive me go try dribbling a bowling ball. :-)

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Hi all:

I read in one of the FAQs that the Hornet chip
actually supports 2 PCMCIA slots.  This raises
two possibilities in my mind.

1.  Is there enough room inside the LX to
     accommodate a compact flash card ?
     What about just a raw CF chip (I think
     Sandisk etc sells them to developers) ?
     Being commodity items, CF should be
     much better bang-for-the-buck compared
     to the SRAMs people are using, right?
     And CF doesn't drain the power either.

2.  Looking at the CF->TypeII adapter,
 I suspect there is probably some room
 inside the adapter between the CF socket
    and the TypeII connector. Any chance of
    squeezing a CF chip in there ? If so,
    it would free up the CF socket for other
    cards of the same format (Pretect makes
    modems, ethernet and other cards in
    the CF format).

Are these feasible ?

Whay.

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I'd performed a cursory look into both of these options about six months
ago.  If memory serves, a software driver would be necessary to access
both "slots" (ala Accurite Doubleslot).  As far as room inside the LX...
No way.  I got my grubby hands on a CF card connector (which is what we'd
need inside the LX to make it work), and even with modification to the LX
case and the connector, it's still too thick.  It'd also probably require
removal of the speaker to make this work.

A raw flash chip might fit... but I still have no idea where it could be
mounted.  Especially if you own a >2MB machine.  The SRAM daughterboard
kinda uses most of the available space.

The CF-TypeII adapter is the best bet.  I imagine that it'd be possible to
put the flash chip inside the adapter, and wire it to the PCMCIA slot
sockets.  Again, though, a software driver would need to be written to
make it work.

I spent enough time on the idea to learn that *I* couldn't pull it off.
Of course, I do *ZERO* programming, and have a very rudimentary knowledge
of the inner workings of PCMCIA address lines, etc.  There are members of
the list with much more skill in this dept. than myself, who might be able
to make a project like this a reality.  I still think it's a good idea,
and an even better one now that someone else came up with it.  

Bill


On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Whay S. Lee wrote:

> Hi all:
>
> I read in one of the FAQs that the Hornet chip
> actually supports 2 PCMCIA slots.  This raises
> two possibilities in my mind.
>
> 1.  Is there enough room inside the LX to
>      accommodate a compact flash card ?
>      What about just a raw CF chip (I think
>      Sandisk etc sells them to developers) ?
>      Being commodity items, CF should be
>      much better bang-for-the-buck compared
>      to the SRAMs people are using, right?
>      And CF doesn't drain the power either.
>
> 2.  Looking at the CF->TypeII adapter,
>  I suspect there is probably some room
>  inside the adapter between the CF socket
>     and the TypeII connector. Any chance of
>     squeezing a CF chip in there ? If so,
>     it would free up the CF socket for other
>     cards of the same format (Pretect makes
>     modems, ethernet and other cards in
>     the CF format).
>

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> > Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
> > poorly.                  -- Henry Spencer >
> > And what is MS-DOS, if not a poorly reinvented Unix?

> MS-DOS is in not way a poor Unix. MS-DOS has NOTHING in common wth
> unix, which isn't suprising since it was based on CP/M which in turn
> was based on TOPS-10 from DEC which came out long before Unix. you
> really should read more about the history of computers and their OS's.

Actually, MS-DOS was VERY much influenced by Unix. Yes, DOS 1.x was a CP/M
clone, but DOS 2.x (and up) explicitly added features to making porting of
Unix programs (and in particular, the C runtime) easier. As one example, in
CP/M and in DOS 1.x, one uses FCB (file control blocks) for opening and
manipulating files. But DOS 2.x and up shifted to the more Unix-like file
handles, down to cloning the open/close/read/write/seek/ioctl set of
operations. I mean, look at function 42h (Move File Pointer) -- if that's
not a clone of Unix seek() (even down to the constants 0, 1, 2 used for
SEEK_SET, SEEK_CUR, SEEK_END), then I don't know what is.

- Joe

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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:00:52 -0700, Ian Butler wrote:

>Butler said, "Our job is to whip up
>a foundation suite of utilities and programs inherent in Unix OSes,
>and to simultaneously start real application development which will
>spawn a much larger user base, appealing to techies with Unix and to
>businessmen for the applications base."

I'm certainly prepared to lend a hand with stripping down utility =
programs
and the like. This sort of task needn't take too much of my time, but I'd
really love to get involved in some way.

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:34:08 +1100, Tim Pitman wrote:

>Why don't we use Minix instead of ELKS to base LXix on?  It's not =
freeware
>the way that ELKS is, howver all source code is availible, it has a =
working
>C compiler, telnet etc that runs on the machine itself, and can actually
>work ok on an XT or 286.  Why not leave Linux (ELKS) to the 386's and =
above?

But ELKS *is* aimed at 8086 class machines - that's the whole point of =
it.

--=20
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On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:57:14 -0700, David Sargeant wrote:

>On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, David R. Birch wrote:
>
>> A while ago someone mentioned using a Cirque Easy Cat touch pad
>> on their HPLX.  What mouse driver works with this?
>
>I use it with a regular Microsoft mouse driver.

That was me. Most modern mouse drivers seem to work with any type of =
mouse
device. I use the Logitech driver which came with my Mouseman.

--=20
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> Actually, MS-DOS was VERY much influenced by Unix. Yes, DOS 1.x was a CP/M
> clone, but DOS 2.x (and up) explicitly added features to making porting of
> Unix programs (and in particular, the C runtime) easier. As one example, in
> CP/M and in DOS 1.x, one uses FCB (file control blocks) for opening and
> manipulating files. But DOS 2.x and up shifted to the more Unix-like file
> handles, down to cloning the open/close/read/write/seek/ioctl set of
> operations. I mean, look at function 42h (Move File Pointer) -- if that's
> not a clone of Unix seek() (even down to the constants 0, 1, 2 used for
> SEEK_SET, SEEK_CUR, SEEK_END), then I don't know what is.
>
> - Joe
>

Stealing program ideas hardly makes DOS a poor clone of Unix. FCB's
were replaced by handles because it added functionality but FCB's
still exist even in DOS 7.0. I don't doubt that the inclusion of file
handles might have even been influenced by C and C libraries but that
still is a far cry from making DOS a poor clone of Unix. My car has
rubber tires which originated on bicycles but I hardly think you
would call a car a poor clone of a bicycle. :-)

Pete

PS. The fact that the handle functions in DOs are so similar to Unix
is more proof of MS's illegal practices than anything else. Even back
then they liberally stole from anyone else them could.

Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
tcbordp@vbbusnw1.tc.cc.va.us

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              Joe Barrera 
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> Stealing program ideas hardly makes DOS a poor clone of Unix.

Hey, that wasn't MY argument (check my email address! :-)

> PS. The fact that the handle functions in DOs are so similar to Unix
> is more proof of MS's illegal practices than anything else. Even back
> then they liberally stole from anyone else them could.

I guess that makes Linux illegal as well, right? :->

- Joe

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Apparently my CGI mailer script decided to stop working, but now it works
again.  Feel free to enter the contest now.  :)

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thank you for your reactions,

some more details:

recovering after a few hours was an optimistic statement. it takes
days. and it happens again even with an empty pcmcia slot, after not
using it a couple of days (yes, i'm that strong).

i know about the right order of installing the batteries; as you all
know, i ended by rtfm too.

i found also an old poster in the archives (thumbs up, Anjelica) about
draining the xbram(?) by holding down the on-key for a while.
currently I'm working on it.

please post me with other ideas, and keep telling me it's not kaput!

regards,
nick

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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <>
Date: 22 October, 1998 1:21
Subject: beep, beep, main battery very low...


>hi all,
>
>i've an annoying problem with my 200lx. trying to start it, it beeps
>twice, the topcard flashes just enough to see the very low main
>battery warning , then it goes off again. but batteries are good. the
>only remedy is to take all batteries out for a couple of hours, then
>restore everything from a flash card. after some days (sometimes just
>hours) it happens again.
>
>i use mainly nicads (when happened the first time about a month ago,
>it was on duracells alkaline though) and changed (just in case) the
>back-up cell. if going to setup screen on ac i can see the gauge
>falling suddenly from full to empty (alkalines) or to low on nicads.
>the back-up cell gets real warm, but this might be normal, never
>touched it before. everything else works, as usual for a 200lx,
>perfectly.

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:01:45 -0700
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> Heh. it seems that even I with limited artistic ability can enter this
> contest :-)

Yes, indeed!  :)

> My only question is: I take it the contest is open to all who take the
> survey, not depending on where you live? (I live in Europe, while most
> of the list readers are in the States)

Yes, it's open to everybody.  In fact, the survey has a field for
"Country."  It defaults to USA, but it can be changed.  :)

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Dan, I have never encountered this problem. You don't mention how large this
phone file is or whether you are accessing it from the C: root drive or from
a flash card.

Regardless, If you have access to a desktop PC and have Connectivity Pack
S/W, you might want to try downloading this phone file to your desktop PC
and access it within Connectivity Pack long enough to see if the problem
continues. If the problem does not persist, at least you will know that it
is isolated to your palmtop causing the strange behavior. If the problem
persists on your desktop, then this would suggest that the file itself is
corrupted. Either way, I realize this won't identify what the problem is.
But at least it will set you down the right path towards a resolution.

Hopefully, someone else has a better suggestion.

Regards,

Gary

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Date: Thursday, October 22, 1998 12:18 AM
Subject: messed up phone .pdb file


>I was wondering if anybody else has had this problem and if so what
>could be causing it?
>
>Machine: 200LX, double speed, 2 meg origionally upped to 5 meg
>
>Problem: Every once in a while my phone list is messed up.  I notice it
>by things being out of alphabetical order.  An entry will be in the
>wrong place.  Upon investigating that more, I noticed that the out of
>order entry is actually duplicated within the database and the other one
>is in the right place.  If I delete the offending entry, both the out of
>order entry and the correctly placed one will go away.  As if the out of
>order entry is an alias or shortcut to the origional within the phone
>database.  I have never had this happen in anything else.  My only
>repair has been to go back to a backup that does not show the problems
>and rebuild any changes in the newer one before deleting it.
>
>Second question / Idea:  Are the doublespeed system correction files
>possibly out of date?  Are their different versions of the double speed
>correction files and if so, how would I go about getting the newest
>versions and how would I tell which versions I have?
>
>Thanks
>Dan Carrington
>
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Following is an extract of a column in today's Wall Street Journal:


<
From:         Jeff MacDowell 
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I am using a Clip in the Phonebook, copy to Memo, save as
CSV file to transfer new contacts into Outlook98 after
successfully importing files initially.  I also am utilizing
the new Outlook98 field mapping patch.

In order to successfully import without field mapping every
time, you must use the exact field names from Outlook98.
Unfortunately, using all the exact field names is longer
than 255 characters and causes Memo to insert a hard return
that screws up the import.

Any ideas on how to get the Clip text that is longer than
255 into a CSV file to save steps?  I tried Lotus b4 I
remembered it had the same 255 limitation.

Regards,
Jeff MacDowell.......jmacd@usa.net

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:12 GMT
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Subject:      The creators.

In message <19981021140500.JQMH4692@compuserve.com>, > They were a wonderful bunch of bright, charged-up individuals.  Their
> pictures are hidden in the palmtop.  I can't remember now how to see
> them but it was in the Maze game.  I believe that many have left HP or
> been dispersed.  Win-ce was a completely new design team over in
> Singapore.   And MS dictated a lot of what went into the machine and
> what was not allowed.

Run "Lair of squid". At the opening screen type "gallery" and you can pay homage

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:07:08 GMT
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Subject:      Re: Release the source!

In message , rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM said:
>
> Here's some freeware HP200LX applications that I use daily, and for
> which I'd personally love to see the source code:
>
> LxCic, Batset, ClipVue, HDM, LxPic, LxStat, MaxDOS, PNS200, vclock.
>

PNS200 comes with source code. At least it did when I downloaded it.

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Subject:      Re: Why (not) release source code

In message , rwhitby@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM said:
>
>     ExmBatch may be distributed freely, but only in it's original
>     unmodified form (as a PkZip archive called EXMBAT15.ZIP).  If
>     you wish to distribute a modified or improved version of
>     ExmBatch, then you must change the program name before doing
>     so.  Please send all modifications or improvements to the
>     author for possible inclusion in a later version of ExmBatch.

I have no qualms about releasing the assembly language or C++ parts of my PAL library to you or anyone else (especially you - hey I am using your software right now!). You have allowed other people to modify your software. Others DONT and I have to resepct their rights. I feel especially strongly about Gilles and his PALs due the service that they have done to the palmtop community.

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Maybe it's just me, but I object that your survey asks for my religion.

I mean, isn't it enough that I believe in the 200lx.

I believe, I believe, I believe, ...

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I see no problem with the religion question... it's clearly stated that
you don't have to answer it. But I think all should as it appears that
David is clearly trying to collect information/data for a super secret
project :)

73 Jeff

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
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The Thursday Oct 15, 1998, WSJ column by Mossberg reviewed the newest
line of laptop/palmtop/subnotebook computers..."New, Light 'Jupiters'
are $999 Laptops Designed for Travelers.'  There are 3 designs by HP,
Sharp, and Vadem.  They have a color backlit screen, 56K internal modem
and 'generous' storage.  The 2.5lb HP unit is reportedly smaller than a
letter-sized paper which is much bigger our HPLX but it's still
interesting.  The HP's regular batteries last 10 hrs and an optional
extra-strength battery lasts 15 hrs.  Pretty darn good for a sizable
color screen that's backlit.  He also made an interesting quote, "The
Jordana's drawbacks are all in the Windows CE software, and are shared
by all computers using it."  So when will Bill and his crew get it
right?  The hardware is there to make a great, new palmtop/subnotebook
but a better OS is needed.

Rick

Alan Peres wrote:
>
> Following is an extract of a column in today's Wall Street Journal:
>
> < for property management and accounting. It does 85% of what I would like it
> to do, and 100% of what I need it to do. Now, I am looking for a palmtop
> computer that runs DOS. Do you know of any? All I find these days are
> Windows CE machines.
>
>  < 200LX. It uses MS DOS 5.0 and has a number of built-in DOS applications,
> including a version of the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet program. You can also
> download other DOS programs into the 200LX, via a cable or infrared beam.
>
> << Journal Link: For an archive of Mossberg's Mailbox, visit The Wall
> Street Journal Interactive Edition at http://wsj.com
>
> Alan
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> I called the Accurite folks a few days ago about the double-slot
> device they sell for the 200LX, they were very nice and VERY upfront
> about the fact that "90 percent of those with double-speed upgrades
> can't use the device..."!
>
> He said it had to do with the timing of the clock cycles and what
> their card expected.  They were willing to sell me one and take it
> back, if it didn't work (and KUDOS to them for being so up-front about
> this), but I wondered what indicators I could find that I might be in
> the 10% of those who could use this attachment successfully.

I have a DoubleSlot, a Flash Ram card, an EXP modem/flash card, a Type III
rotating hard disk, and an Accurite travel floppy.

The DoubleSlot allows use of 2 PCMCIA Type II cards, or one Type II and
one Type III card, or a single Type III card, or a Type II card/device
that has a high power requirement (since the DoubleSlot has its own power
adapter).

I can use the travel floppy without the DoubleSlot, because it has its own
power adapter, also.

But I cannot use the Type III card without the DoubleSlot, and I *CAN* use
it faultlessly (by itself) *with* the DoubleSlot.

I have an 8MB doublespeed unit, which I back up to the 80MB Flash card.
But I back up the flash card, less often, to the Type III drive and this
requires using the DoubleSlot (and in fact was a primary reason for buying
it). This is always a struggle - I find it very hard to get both the Flash
and the Type III recognized at the same time. I eventually succeed, with
multiple reboots, and inserting one card or the other at different times.

Note that the Type III card MUST be in the top slot and the Flash in the
bottom, since, because of its size, putting the Type III in the bottom
slot prevents me from putting anything in the top slot.

Also, I have tried to install software to the Flash card using the
DoubleSlot, with the Flash (or the Type III) in one slot and the travel
floppy connected through the other. I don't think I have ever gotten this
combination to work.

Now I have gotten a 64MB unit, so the only thing I will need the
DoubleSlot for now is backing up to the Type III.

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Reply-To:     Jm Musielewicz 
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Subject:      Re: Wall Street Journal mentioned HP200LX today!!!!

> right?  The hardware is there to make a great, new palmtop/subnotebook
> but a better OS is needed.

OS/2

>
> Rick
>
> Alan Peres wrote:
> >
> > Following is an extract of a column in today's Wall Street Journal:
> >
> > < > for property management and accounting. It does 85% of what I would like it
> > to do, and 100% of what I need it to do. Now, I am looking for a palmtop
> > computer that runs DOS. Do you know of any? All I find these days are
> > Windows CE machines.
> >
> >  < > 200LX. It uses MS DOS 5.0 and has a number of built-in DOS applications,
> > including a version of the Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet program. You can also
> > download other DOS programs into the 200LX, via a cable or infrared beam.
> >
> > << Journal Link: For an archive of Mossberg's Mailbox, visit The Wall
> > Street Journal Interactive Edition at http://wsj.com
> >
> > Alan
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I believe...
I'll have another beer..........

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Subject:      Re: messed up phone .pdb file

IF YOU HAVE A GOOD BACKUP on
a flash. Delete the corrupt file(s). Do CHKDSK/F
Defrag the drive (optional), do CHKDSK again
to see if any problem still exists.
If not, yor home free.
That should cleen up the drive.
Then replace the missing file(s).

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Date:         Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:07:33 -0700
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HP200LX fans:

$125 for 131meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
adaptor card.

$150 for 170meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
adaptor card.

I will take $250 for both.

I have many uniques accessories for the HP200LX.

Puma Intellisync software package (serial cable included) $50.
HP a/c world and US voltage adaptor $35.
Leather cases.  $35-$100.
Backlight kit $75.
5.25in portable drive to load all those good old DOS softwares $75.
Windows 3.0 (original disks) $15.
Tons of DOS software for the HP200LX.

If you are lucky to be in So. CA then I can sell it to you.
I might be willing to sell outside of CA later but there is not a need
for me to do that right now.  Wait for my URL.

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> > Stealing program ideas hardly makes DOS a poor clone of Unix.
>
> Hey, that wasn't MY argument (check my email address! :-)
>

Sorry it is so hard to follow who posted what sometimes.

> > PS. The fact that the handle functions in DOs are so similar to Unix
> > is more proof of MS's illegal practices than anything else. Even back
> > then they liberally stole from anyone else them could.
>
> I guess that makes Linux illegal as well, right? :->
>
> - Joe

At least Linux does it for free. The only time MS gives something
away is to destroy a competator.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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I have been researching project management software lately, but haven't =
near got close to the end of the test.

Protracts performs well enough as a stand alone project management =
software in "list format"  It does not, however, support linking tasks.  =
You can assign responsibilities, priorities, schedule start, schedule =
end, actual start, and actual end.=20

Project Vision is a commercial program (see HP Palmtop magazine for =
current ad).

Mainline and Easy Project are both available on either SUPER or the =
Palmtop CD by Thaddeus.  Each has strengths and weaknesses.

CA Project is a pragram I just purchased used and have not loaded it.

Also, I have read that Microsoft Project 1.0 will run on the HP200, but =
I'm looking for a copy.

I hope that brief info helps.

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Alan:

Encouraging news indeed! A Wall Street-led recovery for our little palmtop?

> Q. ... All I find these days are Windows CE machines.

> A. hplx palmtop ... including a version of Lotus 1-2-3 ...


It's perfect for making quotations that involve complex calculations.

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Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 03:49:23 +0000

On 1998-10-22 jmacd@usa.net said to lloo@worldnet.att.net
   >I am using a Clip in the Phonebook, copy to Memo, save as
   >CSV file to transfer new contacts into Outlook98 after
   >successfully importing files initially.  I also am utilizing
   >the new Outlook98 field mapping patch.
   >In order to successfully import without field mapping every
   >time, you must use the exact field names from Outlook98.
   >Unfortunately, using all the exact field names is longer
   >than 255 characters and causes Memo to insert a hard return
   >that screws up the import.
   >Any ideas on how to get the Clip text that is longer than
   >255 into a CSV file to save steps?  I tried Lotus b4 I
   >remembered it had the same 255 limitation.

I don't do this kind of import/export often, but there's a program that
I use called CONVERT that lets you convert between CSV/DBF/WKS/Fixed format
files and has a lot of flexibility in removing (and I believe renaming)
fields. The program runs without any interaction with the user (ie, a
true command line type filtering program) and maybe you can insert it as
a step in your process? Maybe its output is more palatable to Memo.

The program is freeware on Simtel and is called CONVR803.ZIP.

It's not the easiest program to understand, but you can't fault it for
how well it works.

- Longden

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> Hi I was wondering if there is step by step instructions somewhere for
> opening LX case?
>
Check out Dave Sargeants web site:
www.hplx.com

Pictures and humor and all.

Darren.

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Hi all,

The Omnigo 700LX has two PCMCIA ports, but is a bit thicker! And it has
these '50's Chevy fins on the top. Now if somebody (I was thinking of doing
it before I got hold of a 200LX) would take the top and grind down the fins
(used to hold a mobile phone from Nokia), fill in the holes with Plastic
Padding and smooth it nicely, well that would be nice. The second PCMCIA
port contains a DTP-2 mobile phone card, I expect it could be exchanged with
a flash card? I don't know yet, I have orded a CF+adapter but haven't
received it yet. Maybe a driver would be needed. Anybody that can open their
700LX and check? It might be another week or two before I try it.

br

Franklin


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Date: 22. oktober 1998 23:44
Subject: Hack idea : CF _inside_ the LX ??


>Hi all:
>
>I read in one of the FAQs that the Hornet chip
>actually supports 2 PCMCIA slots.  This raises
>two possibilities in my mind.
>
>1.  Is there enough room inside the LX to
>     accommodate a compact flash card ?
>     What about just a raw CF chip (I think
>     Sandisk etc sells them to developers) ?
>     Being commodity items, CF should be
>     much better bang-for-the-buck compared
>     to the SRAMs people are using, right?
>     And CF doesn't drain the power either.
>
>2.  Looking at the CF->TypeII adapter,
> I suspect there is probably some room
> inside the adapter between the CF socket
>    and the TypeII connector. Any chance of
>    squeezing a CF chip in there ? If so,
>    it would free up the CF socket for other
>    cards of the same format (Pretect makes
>    modems, ethernet and other cards in
>    the CF format).
>
>Are these feasible ?
>
>Whay.
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Hear, hear!
btw, what version of pspice are you using??

Sincerely,
Paul Rasmussen
- been a user of HP computers since the beginning. Now wondering if they
have lost their way.

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> I have an 8MB doublespeed unit, which I back up to the 80MB Flash card.
> But I back up the flash card, less often, to the Type III drive and =
this
> requires using the DoubleSlot (and in fact was a primary reason for =
buying
> it). This is always a struggle - I find it very hard to get both the =
Flash
> and the Type III recognized at the same time. I eventually succeed, =
with
> multiple reboots, and inserting one card or the other at different =
times.
>

I have had this problem also. Like when I power down and pop my flash out =
of
the 200lx
and then put in the doubleslot with the modem and flash now in the =
"monster"
configuration, when I power up, I get -not ready reading drive a:-.
I have found a couple things that help, and a
procedure that pretty much eliminates re-boots.

First, try a couple of different cic enablers. Also HDM seems to do a =
better
job of seeing the a:\ drive after power on. But mostly, go out to dos =
before
switching to the doubleslot. then type "a:" before doing anything else.

Another thing that limits re-booting to 1 re-boot is to rem out 200 in
autoexec (mine is like that anyway by preference.) This lets my first
command after re-boot be "a:". This ALWAYS works - by works I mean I only
have to re-boot one time.

Hope that makes some sense, it's late.

Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 09:15:41 +0100
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> On 22 Oct 98, at 14:57,  Joe Barrera  wrote:
> > Actually, MS-DOS was VERY much influenced by Unix. Yes, DOS 1.x was a CP/M
> > clone, but DOS 2.x (and up) explicitly added features to making porting of
> > Unix programs (and in particular, the C runtime) easier. As one example, in
> > CP/M and in DOS 1.x, one uses FCB (file control blocks) for opening and
> > manipulating files. But DOS 2.x and up shifted to the more Unix-like file
> > handles, down to cloning the open/close/read/write/seek/ioctl set of
> > operations. I mean, look at function 42h (Move File Pointer) -- if that's
> > not a clone of Unix seek() (even down to the constants 0, 1, 2 used for
> > SEEK_SET, SEEK_CUR, SEEK_END), then I don't know what is.
> >
> > - Joe
> >
> On 22 Oct 98, at 18:08,  Peter W. Borders wrote:
> Stealing program ideas hardly makes DOS a poor clone of Unix. FCB's
> were replaced by handles because it added functionality but FCB's
> still exist even in DOS 7.0. I don't doubt that the inclusion of file
> handles might have even been influenced by C and C libraries but that
> still is a far cry from making DOS a poor clone of Unix. My car has
> rubber tires which originated on bicycles but I hardly think you
> would call a car a poor clone of a bicycle. :-)
>

Pete,
Just for the record, here's a quote from
http://www.mit.bme.hu/~kiss/docs/unix/course/node8.html

"XENIX is directly based on UNIX Version 7. Its first version, 2.3, was
released in 1980 by Microsoft for use on microcomputers (IBM PCs or
clones). "

And from your HP
"MS-DOS Version 5.00
Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1991"

Microsoft had a Unix clone _before_ they wrote DOS 2.0, which was
their own (unlike version 1.0).

There is lots about MS-DOS (and the MS C compiler) that shows it is a
(poor) attempt to be a unix clone.

I do agree with you tho' that ELKS on an HP would be little more than a
novelty, except for some possibly highly specialized areas.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic now ;-)

But back on topic....

I believe that a higher power CPU, (and has anyone tried over-clocking
the Hornet by more than 2 1/4 times?) is probably the best, practical, but
still expensive, hardware upgrade we can hope for.

I think the software angle is the way to go. I haven't investigated the PAL
library too closely yet, but If it could be made re-entrant (or protected),
and have an EMM-based transparent memory management system, and
a fast-ish task-switcher added, then it could become the replacement for
the System Manager.

Then 'all we need to do' is duplicate (probably illegal, but will HP/Lotus
care?) and _enhance_ the functionality of the built-in apps (123 and PQ
excepted), and I think we could have a next generation HP250LX

Mike

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I would like to purchase this Toolkit if it is still available
Ch3872@aol.com

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:51:01 +10
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I found a free "PC anywhere" clone.
Elsewr22.zip (on simtel)
I can run a dos program (text mode only) on a remote pc.
It's working fine in a win95 dos windows connected to
the LX ( can work under sysmanager)
Alain

Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Hi all,
    This is a little off topic but I know someone can provide me with a
quick example.  I need a dos batch file which can prompt the user for a
path and filename,  and than execute a dos command using the filename
and path.  Does anyone know where I can find an example like this?

Thanks,
Brenda

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Ok, Thanks
Jon

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> Apparently my CGI mailer script decided to stop working, but now it works
> again.  Feel free to enter the contest now.  :)
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** Proprietary **

Hi


***************************************************
Phil Whorton
Key Account Systemtechnik
Hans Turck GmbH und Co. KG
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>>> "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO"  21.10.98 =
20.10 >>>

How do the rest of you optimize your files?


TIA,

--tim

>>>
I use DOG - got it from SIMTEL and it works like a charm!

Phil
CPT Tim Raymond
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Could someone send the instructions for dismantleing and cleaning my
screen contacts also?


Chris Hoover

choover@ideatank.com


At 02:12 PM 10/22/98 -0400, Stefan Lombard wrote:

outI have sent an email regarding blank lines
apearing on the left side of my

200LX's screen a few weeks ago. I dismantled the screen according to

outinstructions I have received. (Thank you
very much John.) (snip)



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Subject:      Hp Service for HPLX (was Blank lines = new HP200LX)

In message <007101bdfd9c$519a3cb0$79f1a7cb@pro200>, slombaard@CLEAR.NET.NZ said:
> It turns out that it will cost me NZ$675 (+/- US$ 350) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>


------- mucho snipo ------
> Think I will contact Thaddeus about a used 200LX instead.

From what I am lead to believe here in Israel, it is HPs policy worldwide that they dont repair palmtops, they replace them for  75% of a new palmtop, unless you are under warranty. If you are under warranty they will replace at no charge (also if the problem is a hinge crack.)


Thaddeus will repair palmtops for a flat fee of $125US (so I have read on this list.) However if you live outside the US, the customs/ mail/ et etc cost makes getting a palmtop repaired even more expensive and troublesome.

If you are REALLY pissed off at HP, try out the PSION. My sister in Melbourne has a Psion and has had it repaired in Sydney for a flat fee of $AUS50.

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Hello? Is anybody out there?

Jeff

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COPY OF EMAIL SENT TO JEFF PETERSON
ANY COMMENTS ADVICE APPREICATED
(sorry for shouting it's been one of those weeks 8-)

-hi Jeff

It arrived today, and a quick play and it wouldn't work......but
the good news is the excellent little gadget I think has showed
me the problem (I hope).

modem saver reports One GREEN light and one YELLOW
light.  The description says.....
"Current is OK but modem may not work. The line polarity is
reversed"

Not  being a telephone techo I ask why will the line work with
my 56KFlex no name brand (can it sense reversed polarity?)
but not with the Megahertz XJ2144 PCMIA?

Also it was interesting that LXCIC recognised the original XJ
2144 that you sent, but not the new one, however I got the COMMS
program to work (send it init strings) by using CIC100.

Now the question is can the polarity be reversed on the
phone line without stuffing up the cordless phone, fax and the
external modem.  There is a gentleman in Sydney called
Russell Hemery that may be able to clarify this.

I will, I will get one of these modems to work as it looks as
though the fault is my end not the modems.  Please accept
my apologies for putting you to the extra trouble of sending the
second modem.

Best regards......Liam

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:44:08 +0800
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Well, it's finally happened to me.

I've always had the opinion that the 100LX is physically more durable than the
200LX. The 100LX never developed those hair-line cracks on the top lid, the
hinges are tight enough that the lid is sturdy when open, and the buttons just
feel more solid.

On a single day, I dropped the 100LX from my lap to the car floor twice. Took a
few days before the right hinge cracked and gave way completely. If you want,
check out the photo at
. I was
shocked, but after some devious contemplation, I found it quite refreshing to
think of the 200/100LX replacement machine I'll get after about 4 years of
loyal service from this humble 100LX.

Now, I'm going to find out how to remove the cap, and apply some glue on the
hinge. With luck and a pinch of salt, I might be able to continue using without
major hassles for many months more.

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> I read in one of the FAQs that the Hornet chip
> actually supports 2 PCMCIA slots.  This raises
> two possibilities in my mind.


My sources told me that before Corvallis division moved to Singapore,
the thinking was that the next generation 200LX was to be slightly
thicker and support 2 PCMCIA cards.

To a large extent higher memory 200LX's solve the problem of needing a
modem and a storage card.

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:09:49 -0500, Jeff  wrote:

je> Hello? Is anybody out there?
je>
je> Jeff
I'm certainly over here lurking about. Why do you ask?

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Mitch Hamm asked me if I knew who the hidden folks are in Laird of Squid
(type "Gallery" at first screen and up arrow).

I sent his question to Everett (below): and got this response:


<>

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I don't recall that DOS batch files have the facility to prompt for input
strings. There's a host of batch enhancing utilities that have sprung up to
take care of the shortcomings, tho most of them just detect a single
keypress.

LXBatch is a program on the SUPER site that may have some functions you can
use on the LX, and there are other keypress utilities on SUPER also (GETKEY
or something like that).

If you're writing for a PC (ie not the LX), you can also look at the Simtel
site (http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/) and look in the DOS collection
under Batch Utilities.

I think it's silly not to have that function built-in. But if anyone knows
a simple native DOS method to get string input in batch files, I'd like to
hear it also.

- Longden





Brenda Clyde  on 10/23/98 05:01:57 AM

Please respond to baclyde@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu

To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Dos batch file example




Hi all,
    This is a little off topic but I know someone can provide me with a
quick example.  I need a dos batch file which can prompt the user for a
path and filename,  and than execute a dos command using the filename
and path.  Does anyone know where I can find an example like this?

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Subject:      Re: HP-the 200LX is not a pda anymore

** Reply to note from Paal Rasmussen  10/21/98 12:19am +0200
Yeah HP now is quite differant from the old laserjet calculator company.
Version 5.

-John

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:52:24 -0400
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A while back someone had a problem with a 200LX but mentioned something
about it possibly being a Korean version.  I have a Korean friend who would
like a 200LX but if there is a version that does Korean as well as English,
that would be most useful for her.

Does anyone know if such a thing really exists and if so, how the heck
would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other languages?

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Sorry for the "hello?" message, but since around 8:00PM last night I had
not received any mail and then after my "hello?" message I suddenly got
bombarded with mail, kinda weird, but at least I'm gettin the mail from
the list now.

73 Jeff

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:19:16 -0400
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Jeff  wrote:
 > I see no problem with the religion question... it's clearly stated that
 > you don't have to answer it. But I think all should as it appears that
 > David is clearly trying to collect information/data for a super secret
 > project :)

Yet, I for one think that David should explicitly be upfront about it
himself.  He's asking us to give this info for his own purposes, but has
yet to tell us his own religious preference.

Come on, David.  Are you a Scientologist?

Enquiring minds and LXs wanna know.
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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:36:12 -0500
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              Jeff Johns 
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Subject:      Faxing on the LX via Windows

For all interested parties, I have just sent a fax via Windows 3.0 and
WinFaxPro 1.0 (demo freeware version). If anyone is interested, drop me a
line and I'll email you a copy, I mail it to Mitch for inclusion on
S.u.P.E.R. since the included docs say that it can be distributed. The only
catch with the demo is that it print a line saying that the fax was sent
using Delrina WinFax Pro across the top of the page.

73 Jeff


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Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:48:20 -0500
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On 10-23 01:19pm, the following was written:

> Yet, I for one think that David should explicitly be upfront about it
> himself.  He's asking us to give this info for his own purposes, but has
> yet to tell us his own religious preference.
>
> Come on, David.  Are you a Scientologist?

Hmmm.... I imagine he has a shrine built in his house in a dark corner
somewhere, with candles all around with an LX on an altar  I hope God
realizes I'm just kidding and doesn't strike me down....

73 Jeff


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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:02:15 GMT
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On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:07:55 -0400, Jim Krist wrote:

>Maybe it's just me, but I object that your survey asks for my religion.

To be fair David does explain his reasons and the fact that it's not
compulsory. I declined but don't expect that to affect my chances.

>I mean, isn't it enough that I believe in the 200lx.
>
>I believe, I believe, I believe, ...

Hallelujah!

--=20
Neil Tungate 
Team 200LX UK

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              "Striegel, Alan" 
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My personal favorite is STRINGS, taken from PC Magazine.  You get it here:

ftp://ftp.zdnet.com/pcmag/1992/1222/strings.zip

>From:  Brenda Clyde ÝSMTP:baclyde@APLCOMM.JHUAPL.EDU¨
>Sent:  Friday, October 23, 1998 8:02 AM
>...
>Hi all,
>    This is a little off topic but I know someone can provide me with a
>quick example.  I need a dos batch file which can prompt the user for a
>path and filename,  and than execute a dos command using the filename
>and path.  Does anyone know where I can find an example like this?

Alan

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 14:33:47 -0500
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I have seen only one Korean 200LX since working on these palmtops for 1
year.  As for how to get one, I don't know HP still distributes them or
not.  You might try to order one from an LX distributor.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Chow Ýmailto:micro@SRPL.COM¨
Sent: Friday, October 23, 1998 12:52 PM
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject: Does Korean 200LX exist?


A while back someone had a problem with a 200LX but mentioned something
about it possibly being a Korean version.  I have a Korean friend who
would
like a 200LX but if there is a version that does Korean as well as
English,
that would be most useful for her.

Does anyone know if such a thing really exists and if so, how the heck
would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other
languages?

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I am almost positive it exists, but unless you are in Korea, I would
have know idea how to get a hold of one.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:04:51 PDT
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              "Richard Ando, Jr." 
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Hal Goldstein, Others,

> >All this talk about upgrading the 200lx with a new processor, backlit
> >screen, mouse/touch-screen, etc is in vain.....
>
I was wondering about an interm solution, like your CPU/Memory upgrades =
to double-speed/2-64 MB, where you take my 200LX or your used 200LX and =
modify screen for backlight, install new CPU, add in another PCMCIA slot,=
 manufacture a new bottom and/or top case for HP to fit in modifications,=
 etc. etc....  A new "200LX" would require alot of capital and tooling =
but what about limited mods to the present case, internal hardware and =
so on.  The current upgrades are terrific enhancements and enable more =
uses for the current 200LX.

I love my 200LX and use it alot and take it everywhere but it is constant=
ly being compared to the WinCE, Psion, Pilot  and other devices.  A few =
tweeks to the present form and hardware would make it more attractive to =
a wider audience, utilize more software and can provide momentum/demand =
for a really usable palmtop, like a HP upgraded 200LX.

        Richard

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:21:41 -0700
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, hplx wrote:

> Yet, I for one think that David should explicitly be upfront about it
> himself.  He's asking us to give this info for his own purposes, but has
> yet to tell us his own religious preference.

  My purposes are clearly stated if you click on the link.  I'm not
asking anybody to publically disclose anything; just a survey to see what
sort of base there might be for expanding the LX into new markets (along
the lines of Tom Hoover's HisWord program...)

> Come on, David.  Are you a Scientologist?
> Enquiring minds and LXs wanna know.

Heh heh... um, no.

Apparently this question on the survey is causing some of the palmtoppers
to have a major conniption fit.  Therefore, I've removed the question from
the survey, and will destroy that information.  Somebody else can do
development in this area if they want.

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:

> Hmmm.... I imagine he has a shrine built in his house in a dark corner
> somewhere, with candles all around with an LX on an altar  I
> hope God realizes I'm just kidding and doesn't strike me down....

Yes, nothing starts the day off right like sacrificing a virgin 320LX to
my palmtop shrine.  

BIRMINGHAM, AL-- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department Deputy Jeff Johns
was found unconscious today in his patrol car, still smoking, after being
struck by lightning.  At the hospital, he was listed in good condition but
said that it "really stings."  Police suspect foul play.

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I bought a second hand 200lx from Korea..The Korean alfabet shows on the
keypad, but I guess it's an add-on.
Etienne Lemaire
37  H.Boulengerlaan
B-3080 TERVUREN
stelem@ibm.net
32.(0)2.7681931

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> From: Don Chow 
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Does Korean 200LX exist?
> Date: vendredi 23 octobre 1998 18:52
>
> A while back someone had a problem with a 200LX but mentioned something
> about it possibly being a Korean version.  I have a Korean friend who
would
> like a 200LX but if there is a version that does Korean as well as
English,
> that would be most useful for her.
>
> Does anyone know if such a thing really exists and if so, how the heck
> would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other languages?
>
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> BIRMINGHAM, AL-- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department Deputy Jeff Johns
> was found unconscious today in his patrol car, still smoking, after being
> struck by lightning.  At the hospital, he was listed in good condition but
> said that it "really stings."  Police suspect foul play.

Surprisingly, his HP 200LX palmtop was completely unharmed, despite having
been at the center of the lightning strike.

- Joe

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Gee Folks,

I really don't understand why there should be a problem with the "religion"
thing. I mean , ...it appears to be strictly VOLUNTARY.  If you feel
COMPELLED to answer this against your will, then YOU have a problem !
Nobody is holding a gun to your head.....just don't bleeding answer it !


rant...rant...rant...the boys are marching..........

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>
> On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, hplx wrote:
>
> > Yet, I for one think that David should explicitly be upfront about it
> > himself.  He's asking us to give this info for his own purposes, but has
> > yet to tell us his own religious preference.
>
>   My purposes are clearly stated if you click on the link.  I'm not
> asking anybody to publically disclose anything; just a survey to see what
> sort of base there might be for expanding the LX into new markets (along
> the lines of Tom Hoover's HisWord program...)
>
> > Come on, David.  Are you a Scientologist?
> > Enquiring minds and LXs wanna know.
>
> Heh heh... um, no.
>
> Apparently this question on the survey is causing some of the palmtoppers
> to have a major conniption fit.  Therefore, I've removed the question from
> the survey, and will destroy that information.  Somebody else can do
> development in this area if they want.
>
>
>

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              Mikhail Epelbaum 
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Not everyone knows that it it possible to fax via email, to most cities
in the world (but not all), and it's free.

Just send your email to:

remote-printer.recipient's_name@fullfaxnumber.iddd.tcp.int

fax number has to contain country code, ie 12125551212
and no spaces in recipient's name

If it cannot be delivered (or if it can...) you will get a reply to
that effect.

Mikhail

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I get a "Host Unknown" reply.

Phil


>
>remote-printer.recipient's_name@fullfaxnumber.iddd.tcp.int
>
>fax number has to contain country code, ie 12125551212
>and no spaces in recipient's name
>
>If it cannot be delivered (or if it can...) you will get a reply to
>that effect.
>
>

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Carson, Jon A. wrote:

> Gee Folks,
> I really don't understand why there should be a problem with the
> "religion" thing. I mean , ...it appears to be strictly VOLUNTARY.
> If you feel COMPELLED to answer this against your will, then YOU have
> a problem ! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.....just don't
> bleeding answer it !
> rant...rant...rant...the boys are marching..........

Appreciate the support.  You're right, of course-- that's why I set it to
default to "Not specified." But I've decided to avoid the controversey
altogether and have removed the question from the page.

Additionally, I will delete the data already acquired, so we can put this
whole ugly affair behind us.  

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Same here...


Subject: Re: Faxing on the LX ... or any other computer


>I get a "Host Unknown" reply.
>
>Phil



-Tim

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:38:25 -0500
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              al chin 
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What's wrong wit being a scientist?

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:42:47 -0500
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              al chin 
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Just ask yer friend to look fer one in Seoul.
In the Lotte department store might do.

BTW: Does anyone remember the little ditty
that went: Korea, Korea, full ...
to the tune of Araiyang.

Semper mobilis,
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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> > BIRMINGHAM, AL-- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department Deputy Jeff Johns
> > was found unconscious today in his patrol car, still smoking, after being
> > struck by lightning.  At the hospital, he was listed in good condition but
> > said that it "really stings."  Police suspect foul play.
>
> Surprisingly, his HP 200LX palmtop was completely unharmed, despite having
> been at the center of the lightning strike.

... a highly reliable source also confirms that his batteries were fully
charged in the process.

In other news tonite: Deputy Johns reveals his new enviormentally safe
battery charger for the HP 200LX.  This remarkable new device will fully
charge your batteries "at the speed of light" and can double as a car
antenna in a pinch.  When asked of his inspiration, he simply commented
"Ýit¨ just struck me while on patrol."

--francois

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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Omnigo 700LX has two PCMCIA ports, but is a bit thicker! And it has
> these '50's Chevy fins on the top. Now if somebody (I was thinking of doing
> it before I got hold of a 200LX) would take the top and grind down the fins
> (used to hold a mobile phone from Nokia), fill in the holes with Plastic
> Padding and smooth it nicely, well that would be nice. The second PCMCIA
> port contains a DTP-2 mobile phone card, I expect it could be exchanged with
> a flash card? I don't know yet, I have orded a CF+adapter but haven't
> received it yet. Maybe a driver would be needed. Anybody that can open their
> 700LX and check? It might be another week or two before I try it.

My 700LX has only one PCMCIA port. Where do you believe the other one to
be located?
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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Sorry, spelling error: its iddd.tpc.int

Kind of counterintuitive...

Mikhail


> I get a "Host Unknown" reply.
>
> Phil
>
> 
> >
> >remote-printer.recipient's_name@fullfaxnumber.iddd.tcp.int
> >

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In original unopened box, still sealed. Best offer gets it...
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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:19:35 -0700
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Hmm, I recently happened upon a used 1MB SRAM
card and picked it up for my 200LX.  I placed in my
unit and after examining and seeing no appearent
drivers or anything, proceeded to freshly formatting
the card.  I was quite disturbed to see that the card
now registered as a 512k card.  Was it running some
kind of compression?  There was nothing in my
config.sys or autoexec.bat that would have done
this.  Could the card have had its own compression
routine or something that got wiped when I reformated
it?  There were no visible files on it.  Any help would
be appreciated.  Thanks!

Brian S
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Blah...Just Blah.. wrote:

> > > BIRMINGHAM, AL-- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department Deputy Jeff Johns
> > > was found unconscious today in his patrol car, still smoking, after being
> > > struck by lightning.  At the hospital, he was listed in good condition but
> > > said that it "really stings."  Police suspect foul play.
> >
> > Surprisingly, his HP 200LX palmtop was completely unharmed, despite having
> > been at the center of the lightning strike.
>
> ... a highly reliable source also confirms that his batteries were fully
> charged in the process.

...and the 200LX now has a faint glow that doubles as a backlight?


Cheers,

Laust

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On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> > > Surprisingly, his HP 200LX palmtop was completely unharmed, despite having
> > > been at the center of the lightning strike.
> > ... a highly reliable source also confirms that his batteries were fully
> > charged in the process.
> ...and the 200LX now has a faint glow that doubles as a backlight?

And finally, his hinge crack was miraculously healed!

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Subject:      Re: Double Slot and Times2 (doublespeed)
Comments: To: Jim Saklad 

>I have a DoubleSlot, a Flash Ram card, an EXP modem/flash card, a Type III
>rotating hard disk, and an Accurite travel floppy.

And the DoubleSlot works for you, eh?

I may try it yet.

>I find it very hard to get both the Flash and the Type III recognized at
> the same time. I eventually succeed, with multiple reboots,.....

'Course that's what I thought 'til I read the above 'troubles'..

>Now I have gotten a 64MB unit, so the only thing I will need the
>DoubleSlot for now is backing up to the Type III.

OK, now I'm jealous .

Is your doublespeed the Times2Tech or a different crystal?  I've heard
there's a LOT of differences in the DoubleSlot's behavior, and I'm wondering
if it has to do w/ exact cycle frequency or not...

Glad yours works!

keep on palmtoppin'

--tim

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Subject:      Re: Phone line reversed polarity
Comments: To: "Liam M. Early" 

I use a little Radio Shack plug-in that gives an indication about how things
are going.

Some of my modems used to care about polarity, I guess your Megahertz XJ2144
PCMCIA might be one of them.  It's funny because my newer modems haven't had
any trouble and my OLD modems were too "dumb" to care ... or, you could say,
"they were too happy to have a signal" to care about polarity.  ÝÝby "OLD" I
mean 300 baud (back when baud meant baud) RadioShack Model 100 internal
modem -- it would hook up through rain, sleet, snow, etc. and it used to
frustrate the heck out of me, when I could dust off my Model 100 and get to
an ISP, when my "expensive" computer stuff couldn't¨¨.

You can either switch the wires inside the box or where the box meats your
house ... I have no idea regarding your situation Ýhouse, apartment, office,
etc.¨, but the phone company or local electronics store guy could help you
Ýrecently the phone company came in and switched the wires throughout my
house (to the second of two pairs) because they didn't want to rewire
things¨¨.

Good luck,

--tim

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Taking the "there's no such thing as a free lunch" concept, one has
to question their motives for offering free faxing (such as the
gathering of fax numbers for sale to people wishing to send junk
faxes?)

Of course, it may be totally ligit - but one should be careful, right?

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> Taking the "there's no such thing as a free lunch" concept, one has
> to question their motives for offering free faxing (such as the
> gathering of fax numbers for sale to people wishing to send junk
> faxes?)
> Of course, it may be totally ligit - but one should be careful, right?

I just tried it out... it appears that they paste an "advertising" cover
sheet onto the fax, or at least the local providers who provide the
gateways do.  Of course, if our fax machine starts getting junk faxes,
I'll be sure and warn people.  :)

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:07:54 +0000
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Actually, they collect email addresses of free lunch seekers, for a
purpose that will be revealed upon reaching the critical mass.

> Taking the "there's no such thing as a free lunch" concept, one has
> to question their motives for offering free faxing (such as the
> gathering of fax numbers for sale to people wishing to send junk
> faxes?)

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:26:53 -0400
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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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This service has been around for years, AFAIK there isn't anything "evil"
going on, i've never received a junk fax nor has anyone i've know who
has used this or had a fax sent to them through it.  of course, the cover
sheet is set to have info on tpc, so i guess you can say they're advertising?

--francois

On Fri, Oct 23, 1998 at 04:00:40PM -0700, Steven Lawson wrote:
> Taking the "there's no such thing as a free lunch" concept, one has
> to question their motives for offering free faxing (such as the
> gathering of fax numbers for sale to people wishing to send junk
> faxes?)
>
> Of course, it may be totally ligit - but one should be careful, right?
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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:10:21 +0200
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I work the same way you do: I have laptop PC running windows 95 and my
200lx. I connect them using laplink, wireless. I did it according to what
Pete Jordan says at the Palmtop Paper's 1996 dated volume 5 number 4th
issue. I won't write down the all procedure you have to follow before
connecting the two computers but I'll let you know what you can after that
connection is established:
1. Computers communicate wireless
2. You saw your 200lx internal memory and the flash memory plugged to
PCMCIA port as two seperate drive on the My Computer windows of Win 95.
3. So you drag and drop any file you want between drives.
4. You can edit 200lx files on your PC. (.wk1,.txt,.doc... files for
example)
To do these you have to make some addition to the autoexec.bat file of yor
laptop, modify ios.ini file again on laptop, edit tsi,ini of your 200lx.
The steps are clearly defined on the above mentioned issue of the palmtop
paper. For further information, I prefer faxing you  the details.
Regards
Bulent BICIOGLU
Fax: 00 90 212 282 1741
E-mail: bbicioglu1@mmm.com

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:57:27 +10
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Date sent:              Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:34:57 -0700
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From:                   Darren Frick 
Subject:                Re: Double Slot and Times2 (doublespeed)
To:                     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU

> Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:
> >
> > A different question:
> >
> > I called the Accurite folks a few days ago about the double-slot device they
> > sell for the 200LX, they were very nice and VERY upfront about the fact that
> > "90 percent of those with double-speed upgrades can't use the device..."!
> >
> > He said it had to do with the timing of the clock cycles and what their card
> > expected.  They were willing to sell me one and take it back, if it didn't
> > work (and KUDOS to them for being so up-front about this), but I wondered
> > what indicators I could find that I might be in the 10% of those who could
> > use this attachment successfully.
> >
> > Anyone have any experience with this one?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --tim
> >
> Hi, Tim.
>
> I have the Accurite doubleslot and am using it with my 2x 200lx. It
> works well. My combo works without any mods to the drivers - even though
> I have seen a patch out there for the doubleslot to work with 2x
> machines. I think that this patch must be for older revisions of the
> double slot because I don't seem to need it.
>
> I tried it once to attempt to correct the one problem that I've come
> across, which is:
>
> When I use my modem (Mhz1144) and SRAM card at the same time, there is
> normally no problem - but when I tell www/lx to use the SRAM as its
> cache or tell post to write the incoming messages to the SRAM, the
> machine locks up when it tries to write to the card. I sort of work
> around this by keeping www/lx on the SRAM card and the cache/mail
> directories on the C:\ drive. (I need to do these types of things on my
> 1 meg machine.) - Now it SEEMS like this is a limitation of the
> doubleslot. I have tried 3 doublespeed drivers and a few cic drivers to
> no avail. I have not had a chance to try the T2T doublespeed driver tho,
> because my 2x is not T2T. More interestingly, I seem to remember that
> nettamer and the built in Comm software do not have this problem. It may
> be the SRAM card I have - perhaps flash will not have the boggle. Or it
> may be my particular 2x crystal. It is a japanese one.
> 31-point-something Mhz.
>
> This is the _only_ problem I've had,otherwise, I highly recommend the
> doubleslot. It allows me to use the SRAM and a type III hard drive at
> the same time. The ATA driver that comes with doubleslot makes the SRAM
> A:\ and the HD F:\. I can use Filer to transfer files back and forth. I
> can run win 3.0 off the F:\ drive. The palmtops PCMCIA slot can power
> both the SRAM or Flash along with the modem at the same time. If I run
> the LX with and adapter, I can run the HD and SRAM at the same time too.
> -- Only  do this in an emergency for a few minutes for quick transfers
> as it does cause warming of the LX (screen fade, etc). The doubleslot
> does come with a 5 volt adapter which I'll bet gives the Doubleslot
> enough juice to run probably any type II or III card, including lots of
> cards that the LX by itsself can't power.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Darren.
>
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What is the price of the double slot?
regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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youmay find it easier to simply purchase a Eagle Map Guide Pro GPS unit which
will accomplish all of these things for you and already has the capability to
download detailed maps from provided software, many ofwhich are specific for
navigation.

Mikhail Epelbaum wrote:

> Could someone advise me as to how to calculate distance and true (to be
> converted to magnetic) direction between two points with known coordinates.
>
> I want to create a Lotus spreadsheet, where I would enter coordinates
> of where I am (from my old non-networked and non-graphic GPS) and get
> quick reference to a number of different waypoints at once. The GPS
> receiver can do it by itself, but only one waypoint at a time, and I
> always forget the cryptic keypresses required.
>
> This is for sailboat racing and cruising on Lake Ontario.
>
> I know that this may not be the best forum for such a problem, but
> someone might direct me to an appropriate resourse.
>
> Mikhail
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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:39:52 -0500
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I'm really new with the 200lx, and I'm trying
to set up a "direct connection" between my
200LX and my Win95 PC so I can move files
between them.

Here's what I've done (that doesn't work)...
I bought a 9pin to 25pin serial adapter and
attached it to the end of the 200LX's cable.
I plugged it into a 25pin serial port on my PC
and then ran the 'Direct Cable Connection"
wizard on my PC.

On the 200LX I started up DataComm and
took the F10 option from the connection menu
to connect. Meanwhile, back at the PC, I get a
message saying "Waiting for a guest computer
to connect via serial connection on COM2".
(Com2 is correct)

Nothing happens.

I also tried setting up a serial connection using
'HyperTerminal'.  The status bar at the bottom
said 'connected', but I don't believe it. I tried sending
a file using both Zmodem and Kermit, and they both
immediately errored out with a message that said
"Illegal message format".

I did searches on HotBot and AltaVista to try to find
some information for setting up a direct cable connection
on the 200lx to a PC, but couldn't find anything useful.

Could someone point me in the right direction? I think
I'm basically looking for some step-by-step directions
for this procedure.

TIA,
Steve

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:33:26 +0000
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Stanley - do you have experience with Eagle? I must admit I don't want
to buy all new hardware when I already have what I need for the task.
Besides, talking to salespeople is very stressful. I always get
trainees, and it's painfully clear that they will never find out just how
little they know of what they are talking about.

I already made my spreadsheet, but now have to find a way to import
hundreds of waypoints (text file) into it. It offends one's LX_sensibility
to do it manually. Probably, I will write a filter in dBase to do it. I
found waypoints for all of the Great Lakes and both coasts, on the net.

Mikhail

> youmay find it easier to simply purchase a Eagle Map Guide Pro GPS unit which
> will accomplish all of these things for you and already has the capability to
> download detailed maps from provided software, many ofwhich are specific for
> navigation.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:27:22 -0700
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I also have two blank lines on the left side of my display and would appreciate posting of these instructions.
*Leland*

Chris Hoover wrote:

> Could someone send the instructions for dismantleing and cleaning my screen contacts also?
>
> Chris Hoover
> choover@ideatank.com
>
> At 02:12 PM 10/22/98 -0400, Stefan Lombard wrote:
> I have sent an email regarding blank lines apearing on the left side of my
> 200LX's screen a few weeks ago. I dismantled the screen according to
> instructions I have received. (Thank you very much John.) (snip)
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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:04:57 -0500
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>I also have two blank lines on the left side of my display and would appreciate
posting of these instructions.


Folks, I do NOT recommend going in a "cleaning the screen contacts" as it is
almost guaranteed to not be your problem and you will most likely damage your
screen permanently.  The problem you refer to is 99% of the time a soldering
problem with some of the pins on the display driver chips or a defective display
driver chip output.

Cheers,
Mack

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:06:08 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Direct cable connection...
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Steve D. wrote:

> I'm really new with the 200lx, and I'm trying
> to set up a "direct connection" between my
> 200LX and my Win95 PC so I can move files
> between them.

> Here's what I've done (that doesn't work)...
> I bought a 9pin to 25pin serial adapter and
> attached it to the end of the 200LX's cable.
> I plugged it into a 25pin serial port on my PC

Good so far..

> and then ran the 'Direct Cable Connection"
> wizard on my PC.

...

> Nothing happens.

Nope.  Direct Cable Connection is for connecting two Win95 machines via a
network-ish interface.  It won't work with the 200LX at all.

> I also tried setting up a serial connection using
> 'HyperTerminal'.  The status bar at the bottom
> said 'connected', but I don't believe it. I tried sending
> a file using both Zmodem and Kermit, and they both
> immediately errored out with a message that said
> "Illegal message format".

HyperTerminal, as you found out, isn't any good either.  What you need is
one of two things: a decent DOS term program, or Interlnk.  If you have
your Win95 CD, you can find Interlnk.exe and Intersvr.exe on there.  I'd
also get a copy of MS-Kermit (I can provide you with one, if you can't get
it off the internet for one reason or another) as well.

> Could someone point me in the right direction? I think
> I'm basically looking for some step-by-step directions
> for this procedure.

With Kermit running on the desktop, type:
MS-Kermit> set po 2    (set serial port to COM2)
MS-Kermit> set sp 384  (set speed to 38400bps; usually safe)
MS-Kermit> set file type bin (set filetype to binary)
MS-Kermit> put interlnk.exe

Then you start recieving with DataComm on the palmtop.

After that's all done (shouldn't take too long), you can set up Interlnk
proper.  Add the line "device=wherever you put it\interlnk.exe" to your
config.sys.  Run "Intersvr /x=ab" on the desktop.  Then, reboot the
palmtop. You should get three new drives on the palmtop (on mine, it's G:,
E:, and F:) as well as LPT2:.  When you're plugged in (btw, one nice thing
about Interlnk is you can plug in and use it hot, i.e. without rebooting
the palmtop) - you can access your C: on the desktop via G: on the
palmtop.  It's pretty spiffy.

> TIA,

You're very welcome!

Ian Butler 
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:09:34 -0700
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Oh yeah, and one more thing.  There's a way to copy Interlnk over with
just Interlnk or Intersvr, but I don't remember how.  Probably a few
minutes of playing with it would reveal the method.

It involves CTTY and MODE, if I remember correctly.

Ian Butler 
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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:22:09 +1000
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> <
>       LEFT                      RIGHT
> Andy Gryc            Pat Megowan
> Everett Kaser        Bill Johnson
> Lynn Winter          Susan Wechsler
> Eric Evett           "special thanks"

Wow, is that for both hardware and software?

That's not many people for such a cool device. But they say all the
really groundbreaking devices are developed by small teams. A great effort!


Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au        Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:26:22 -0500
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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> BIRMINGHAM, AL-- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department Deputy Jeff Johns
> was found unconscious today in his patrol car, still smoking, after being
> struck by lightning.  At the hospital, he was listed in good condition but
> said that it "really stings."  Police suspect foul play.

I just got home from patrol duties, which were extremely stressful
tonight and just had the biggest laugh I think i have had in a long time
:) I kept getting shocked tonight getting in and out of the car..... I
thought it was just static electricity from the extreme temperature drop
we've had. I now realize that God was just trying to teach me a lesson
. I didn't take the LX with me tonight but during the night I was
wondering if the LX is static sensitive? Could I zap it just by touching it?

73 Jeff

P.S. We need to get David a spot on Letterman, we might just have the
next Seinfeld in our midst

    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
    |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
    =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-=

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:31:00 +0800
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>I'm really new with the 200lx, and I'm trying
>to set up a "direct connection" between my
>200LX and my Win95 PC so I can move files
>between them.
>
>Here's what I've done (that doesn't work)...
>I bought a 9pin to 25pin serial adapter and
>attached it to the end of the 200LX's cable.
>I plugged it into a 25pin serial port on my PC

I do the same as above

>and then ran the 'Direct Cable Connection"
>wizard on my PC.

Direct Cable Connect will not work on a 200lx only another windows 9X
machine.


>I also tried setting up a serial connection using
>'HyperTerminal'.  The status bar at the bottom
>said 'connected', but I don't believe it. I tried sending
>a file using both Zmodem and Kermit, and they both
>immediately errored out with a message that said
>"Illegal message format".


I have hooked up via HyperTerminal many times. The only problem is that the
settings on both the 200lx and your HyperTerminal software must match,
except possibly for the port number.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:13:03 -0600
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I was recently given a EPSON 2400/9600 Modem/Fax PCMCIA card.  I popped =
it in the ol' 200LX and was able to communicate with the card using =
Datacomm.  All the "AT" type commands seemed to work but when I tried to =
call I'm continually given "NO DIALTONE".  I checked all the settings =
using the AT&V command and they seem to be set correctly as far as I =
understand them.  I issued an ATZ command to reset the modem and it =
still gives me a "NO DIALTONE".  I checked the phone line using another =
modem and it works fine.
Anybody run this modem or run into a similar problem?  Are there only =
certain modem cards that will work in the 200LX?

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> Is your doublespeed the Times2Tech or a different crystal?  I've heard
> there's a LOT of differences in the DoubleSlot's behavior, and I'm =
wonderi
> if it has to do w/ exact cycle frequency or not...
>
> Glad yours works!
>
> keep on palmtoppin'
>
> --tim
>
Not sure who that was diretced to - trouble following thread - BUT...

My freq. is 31.673550 Mhz. A japanese version and I'm using a Double =
Speed
patch called dspeed.com that is 500 bytes.

Darren.

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 02:18:00 EDT
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>
> What is the price of the double slot?
> regards
> Alain

I paid $159 and it came with a 5 volt adapter.

Darren.

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> Hmm, I recently happened upon a used 1MB SRAM
> card and picked it up for my 200LX.  I placed in my
> unit and after examining and seeing no appearent
> drivers or anything, proceeded to freshly formatting
> the card.  I was quite disturbed to see that the card
> now registered as a 512k card.  Was it running some
> kind of compression?  There was nothing in my
> config.sys or autoexec.bat that would have done
> this.  Could the card have had its own compression
> routine or something that got wiped when I reformated
> it?  There were no visible files on it.  Any help would
> be appreciated.  Thanks!
>
> Brian S

Hmm... I have a 1meg SRAM card from a Newton that is actually 1 meg, but
have a thought or two. SRAM cards are usually old and typically have =
small
capacities. 512k is a very common size - 2 meg would be considered really
big. I would not be suprised if your card is 512k, but that raises a
question. Did you ever use it as a 1 meg card, or did you format it right
away? I ask because it may very well have been billed as a 1 megger but =
was
really 512k w/ compression. If that is true though, then I would think =
that
the drivers would have to be ran ahead of time to access the card. You
mentioned no driver, so I guess were back to - did you ever get 1 meg on =
the
card?

Darren.

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Hi Steve,

you wrote:
>
> I'm really new with the 200lx, and I'm trying
> to set up a "direct connection" between my
> 200LX and my Win95 PC so I can move files
> between them.
>
> Here's what I've done (that doesn't work)...
> I bought a 9pin to 25pin serial adapter and
> attached it to the end of the 200LX's cable.
> I plugged it into a 25pin serial port on my PC
> and then ran the 'Direct Cable Connection"
> wizard on my PC.
>
Download and install 'Transfile Win 200' from Yellow Computing on your
W95 PC. It's freeware by HP (!); you can find it on a HP palmtop page or
on S.U.P.E.R (don't remember exactly; I got it from an HP page).

It communicates with Filer and you can see the HP200 drives on your PC.
(The HP serial cable is a 'Null-Modem' cable for direct PC/PC connection
so don't add another 'Null-Modem' to that.)

Hermann

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:35:24 +0800
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>I was recently given a EPSON 2400/9600 Modem/Fax PCMCIA card.  I
popped it in the ol' 200LX and was able to communicate with the card
using Datacomm.  All the "AT" type commands seemed to work but when I
tried to call I'm continually given "NO DIALTONE".  I checked all the
settings using the AT&V command and they seem to be set correctly as
far as I understand them.  I issued an ATZ command to reset the modem
and it still gives me a "NO DIALTONE".  I checked the phone line using
another modem and it works fine.
>Anybody run this modem or run into a similar problem?  Are there only
certain modem cards that will work in the 200LX?



I am experiencing the same problem with two Megahertz 14.4k Gold PCMIA
fax modems.  The kind supplier of the modems sent me a little gadget
called an IBM modem save, this is a little probe that goes into the
RJ11 socket
it has three indicator lights.  NORMAL    POLARITY REVERSED & OVER
CURRENT

My telephone line is showing NORMAL & POLARITY REVERSED lights, I can
only assume that is the problem.  I'm now investigating how best to
un-reverse
8-)  the polarity.

Suggest you test you phone line

Best regards.....Liam
Bunbury, Western Australia

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:37:38 +0800
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DIALTONE".  I checked the phone line using another modem and it works
fine.
>Anybody run this modem or run into a similar problem?  Are there only
certain modem cards that will work in the 200LX?


I forgot to add in the last email that my no name 56KFlex external
modem
works fine on the line, so I am assuming that some PCMIA modems are
fussy about the polarity. Am waiting for confirmation on this from the
experts
in the group.

Best regards.....Liam

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:22:31 +1300
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Hi gang, I just grabbed (at a computer fair) a copy of the
Oxford Concise Dictionary for dos. I paid only $25.00 (NZ)

It installs in under 4meg and runs OK. It takes about 2-3
seconds to display the full meaning of a selected word,
but this is on my std (1x) 2meg 200LX.

It seems to have a plethora of medical words thrown in, so it
will be of especial interest to the medicos out there.

AFAIK, it is still available new, you have to order it from the co
as it is not advertised (being "ancient" dos and all that!) until
stock runs out. I think it is about 30-40 English Pounds...

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 01:57:49 -0700
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I found out some info about the card I am having trouble with.

SRAM Memory Cards

Company         Mfg Part #              Size
Pretec          JA-1024SRM25F1          1M

Appearantly it is a Pretec 1MB SRAM card.  If anyone
can help me figure out why it formats to 512K I would
appreciate it.  Thanks!

Brian S
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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:37:38 -0400
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In the US of A, to reverse polarity, unscrew the phone jack in the wall and
reverse the red and green wires.  (Some places have white/blue and
white/orange wires that have to be reversed).  This assumes the jack was
installed by the old Bell system or someone following their traditions.

Radio Shack *gave* me a little gizmo tests phone circuits.  It has the RJ-11
plug and an LED on the end of what looks like a small plastic popsicle
stick.  I assume it's testing for voltage on the line (and maybe polarity?).

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I carry a polarity reversing cable with me on all trips.  I have run into
this problem in hotels, especially outside of the US.  Two RJ11s connected
with a short cable with red and green switched.  You can also buy a
polarity switcher in a neater plastic format (Magellan travel may still
have them) but the two rj11's are much cheaper.
Ron
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What mouse driver are you using, and what veraion of that driver?

David

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I was the one with a Korean HP200LX with the serial port problem.  I
returned it and received another in exchange that seems to be OK.  The
top of the case has a Samsung emblem as well as the HP markings, and the
keyboard has Korean characters below most of the keys, which are
themselves marked as usual.

David

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:31:27 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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re:
> Could the card have had its own compression
> routine or something that got wiped when I reformatted...

Don't know about your specific card BUT I had the exact same problem a few
years ago w/ a 6MB/Modem combo from SMART.

BTW, the problem was with *me* not the card ;-)

The DOS format command would make it a 2MB card AND I'd lost the
card-specific files that were intended to format it (long story about givng
my 100LX a drink of coffee...NOT a good idea doesn't increase the clock
speed at all  ).

Once I got the right file Ýin my case, I think it was "SMFORMAT.xxx (com or
exe)¨ *AND* used the right parameters, it was fine.  The "smformat" was a
"smart" enough program to let me type the command w/ *no* parameters and it
would return a short list with an example of the proper command syntax and
described the main possible parameters, and what they did << I *LOVE* it
when programmers do that! It keeps me from having to read or remember the
instructions! Another great example of this is, of course, typing 'PKZIP'
w/o any parameters and hitting enter... >>

The card-specific format program would let me format the card at different
sizes, allow a different MAX-files number in the root directory, and all
sorts of things.  Don't know, or imagine, if it would work w/ other cards
... try the website for your manufacturer's card and/or call 'em.

Good luck,

--tim


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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:39:47 -0500
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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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Quick kudos to all on this list!

I watched (and laughed) with all about the "religion" question issue

re. Jeff's comments:
>I just got home from patrol duties, which were extremely stressful
>tonight and just had the biggest laugh I think i have had in a long time
> :)

I'm marginally into about 10 other mailing lists and many of them will
FLAME-war in a heartbeat, snivel, back-stab, etc.

I know things have heated up here every now and then in the past; but, in
the past 6 months, or so, that I've been on this list, it's been pretty darn
good!

This list is really "healthy" Ýfrom a group-member attitude standpoint¨ and
I just wanted to say thanks, congrats to all and keep it up!

--tim

PS. OK, no group hugs or anything sloppy now, we can't get *that* healthy
   ;-)



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01h14m52s ago ...
On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO wrote:

> Quick kudos to all on this list!...

     Hey, Where's my "Kudu" you guys promised?

Cheers to all and thanks to you all for making this LIST such a
rewarding project.

Cheers,

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Date:         Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:42:31 -0500
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I bought one from Korea (its not for sale). The key faces
are english, it does have stroke characters (some are similar
to the box drawing characters in high ascii).
I was told it takes special software to utilize them, which I don't have.
I scanned the D: drive for the word korea, I got no hits.


Don Chow wrote:

> A while back someone had a problem with a 200LX but mentioned something
> about it possibly being a Korean version.  I have a Korean friend who would
> like a 200LX but if there is a version that does Korean as well as English,
> that would be most useful for her.
>
> Does anyone know if such a thing really exists and if so, how the heck
> would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other languages?
>
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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:45:58 -0400
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09h33m09s ago ...
On Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:37:09 -0500 (EST),  wrote:

> Have you ever used the MENU Applications Sort Icons by name command?  If
> you name them alphabetically in the order you want them, this works.
> Also, you can name an icon so it sorts where you want it alphabetically.
> Then you can rename it.  (However if you do this more than once, you'll
> have to rename more than one icons).

Actually, the night before I realized I could make HDM do submenus by creating
different data files I had catagorized my files by preceding them with a
number, 0 to 9.  That was really, really ugly.

And I had probably 35 icons in the one screen, so reording them was a lot of
keyboard smackin'.  :)  I still suggest the idea that it reorder like SysMgr,
SMMX, etc..  IE:  1 2 3 4, order on four, press left three times will give:
4 1 2 3.  HDM swaps the applications, giving:  4 2 3 1.

A 'swap each movement' is what I'm looking for.

Again, thanks for the support of a great GUI for my SC DOS sessions!  Use it
every day, it's what is automatically loaded in session 2.  :)

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"Cheers to all and thanks to you all for making
this LIST such a rewarding project."

........and y'all laid back to a Happy Standard Time :)

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:56:11 -0400
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Hi All:

     If anyone has a Sparcomm docking station they want to sell, please
drop me a note w/asking price...Thanks

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:12:40 +0800
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Hi there,

I tried the new backgammon game on SUPER- by Willy Chaplin. It's seams
to be a great game. But how to I exit the game? Q will only start a
new game on my 200LX. Anything I have missed out?

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Subject:      Adapter use

Hi all;
A question:  When the adapter is plugged
in but not recharging, should the LX heat
up in the battery area?     Hmmmmmm.

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Subject:      Re: Anybody running an EPSON modem card?

** Reply to note from Liam M. Early  10/24/98  3:37pm +0800

I used an Epson 14.4k card for a while. It worked fine except it used as much
current as my present 33.6 card. Also I had to put a @ in front of the init string
in datacaomm to get it to ignore the dial tone when it dialed--otherwise it would
always come up with a no dialtone error. Actually I would like to know whats up
with that? With every pcmcia modem I've ever used I've had to put a @ in front of
the init string in datacomm. I've used three--Exp, Epson, and Viking.

-John

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On 23 Oct 98 at 16:00, Steven Lawson
wrote:

> Taking the "there's no such thing as
> a free lunch" concept, one has to
> question their motives for offering
> free faxing (such as the gathering of
> fax numbers for sale to people
> wishing to send junk faxes?)

The catch is that the owner of the fax
machine gets to put an advertisement
on the cover sheet. See
http://www.tpc.int/ for more
information on the service.

Best regards,   clyde

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:53:05 -0700
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On 23 Oct 98 at 10:25, Longeden Loo
wrote:

> I think it's silly not to have that
> function built-in. But if anyone knows
> a simple native DOS method to get
> string input in batch files, I'd like
> to hear it also.

When setting up old DOS machines for
novice users, there is an old trick I
have used to create menus and have
apparent string input in batch files.

Preliminary notes: I place all of
these batch files in a subdirectory
(e.g., c:\bat) in the path. At
appropriate points in the menus (such
as to indicate that the user is in a
"sub-menu," I also change the DOS
prompt using the PROMPT command so
that the user hasn't a clue that (s)he
is actually running a batch file: it
has the same feel as a simple
single-key/Enter menu program.

I have batch files named with
one-character names like R.BAT or
0.BAT. Usually I write them so that
0.bat echoes a main menu on the screen.
The user just needs to remember to
type "0" and enter to get back to "home
base." File 1.BAT is the first option
on the menu, 2.BAT is the second, and
so forth.

To obtain string input I prompt the
user either using an ECHO line or a
new PROMPT string to type a letter or
number followed by a space and the
string I need.

Example main menu batch file:

0.BAT:
--------------------------------
echo off
cls
echo ***MAIN MENU***
echo 1. Start text editor. EX: "1 MYFILE.TXT"
echo 2. Start genealogy program.
echo 3. DOS utilities submenu.
prompt $t$h$h$h$h$h$h Main menu: Enter your selection $G
--------------------------------

1.BAT:
--------------------------------
echo off
cls
c:
cd\documents
edit %1
0.bat
--------------------------------

2.BAT:
--------------------------------
echo off
cls
echo ***List of documents***
c:
cd\documents
dir /w | more
pause
0.bat
--------------------------------

I think you get the picture. It's
crude, but I rarely get questions or
negative feedback from the new user. Of
course, if you're writing batch files
for your own use, it's up to you to
write them as you prefer.

Best regards,   clyde

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I have a Korean version of the HP200LX.  As far as I can tell it is =
exactly the same as a US English version with the exception of the =
Keyboard overlay.  Above every alpha key there is a Korean equivalent.  =
I've tried every combination of key to see if I could get the Korean =
symbols to appear on the screen but have had no luck.  I'm wondering if =
the Korean symbols on the keyboard overlay are for reference only.  The =
internal workings of the computer seem to be exactly the same as any =
other HP200LX.  Anybody else of the same opinion?



-----Original Message-----
From:   Don Chow ÝSMTP:micro@SRPL.COM¨
Sent:   Friday, October 23, 1998 11:52 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Does Korean 200LX exist?

A while back someone had a problem with a 200LX but mentioned something
about it possibly being a Korean version.  I have a Korean friend who =
would
like a 200LX but if there is a version that does Korean as well as =
English,
that would be most useful for her.

Does anyone know if such a thing really exists and if so, how the heck
would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other =
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->I tried the new backgammon game on SUPER- by Willy Chaplin. It's seams
->to be a great game. But how to I exit the game? Q will only start a new
->game on my 200LX. Anything I have missed out?
->Thanks and Regards,
->Jorgen

The way I do it is by playing the game from within sysmgr.  When I wish to
exit I press the "&..." (more) key and close the DOS session (F6).  That
is because the way the game is set up you need to press Ctrl-Alt-Del to
end it and that obviously reboots the palmtop.

The problem I have is that I am using the smaller 5.1 ver exe file that
came in the zip file.  I could never get the larger exe file - later
version (also included in the zip file) to load in the palmtop.  Has
anyone?

It is a good game.


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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 13:49:49 -0500
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Subject:      Re: Does Korean 200LX exist?

Yeah,
Since everything else woiks da same,
Da korean is probably phonetic of da
arabic keys and it don't do nuthing else.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Subject:      Banking with 200LX

If anyones interested in using the 200LX to do their banking
Citibank has a nice little dos program that runs nicely on
the 200LX. It also stores the account actively file in both
quicken qif format and comma seperated values. It integrates
nicely with lotus. I don't know if it works with other banking
systems so you might need to open an account with Citibank.
They do use a 800 number for the banking system. The customer
service number is 800-967-2300.

-John

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Jorgen Wrote
> I tried the new backgammon game on SUPER- by Willy Chaplin. It's seams
> to be a great game. But how to I exit the game? Q will only start a
> new game on my 200LX. Anything I have missed out?

I find the only way to exit it is to close it from Application Manager (More
- F6)


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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:15:37 +0100
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I managed to set up IR printing (HP340) from DOS and Sysmgr (incl Lotus) and
to transfer data with Transfile per IR.

Trying to set it up for Intellisync for HP200LX I failed. It establishes
somehow an IR contact but the HP200LX issues a "Unable to read command"
message and fails. Puma is talking on their WWW.support page about an
ILCM.INI (Intellilink for ..??) which has to be modified. This one I
couldn't find at all. I played around with all kind of settings (flow
control, buffer, speed, parity, ...) without any success.

Did anybody succed establishing an IR connection with Intelisync? How do I
have to set it up with Laplink?

Many thanks for any advice.
Juerg

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Has anybody an idea what the "local files" are PUMA is talking about and
what could be a "redirection software" for the HP200?

Juerg

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YOU WIN! (g or sigh)

> WORK.
>
> >
> >You know, this gives me a great idea for a contest.... what's the most
> >hideous thing you've ever used your LX for?  

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> Also, we now are exclusively selling Sandisk cards at new pricing.
>

Hal:

Are you also selling the Compact Flash cards from Sandisk (yeah, I will
visit the site, but this gives you another chance to plug! (G))

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Subject:      Re: Phone line reversed polarity
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> Not  being a telephone techo I ask why will the line work with
> my 56KFlex no name brand (can it sense reversed polarity?)
> but not with the Megahertz XJ2144 PCMIA?
>

I'm not sure if this is the answer but the xjacks have a circuit/system
for testing power and saving the modem if there is too much (wrong
polarity????) power.  They will stop working but will not "burnout."

Early xjack 2144's had the value set too low - there was a upgrade
(software fix) that reset the value.  I'm still using that modem.

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To all programmers among you:

Please have a look at the SPHiNX C-- compiler and consider
switching to it. This is an outstanding incredible development
tool for the HP palmtop. To demonstrate it's power I ported a
fire simulation from VGA to CGA. It's on SUPERNEW as FIRE.ZIP.
C-- (how I like this name!) is not a full ANSI C compiler. It
has no pointers (anyhow difficult to handle) and is somehow
closer to assembler. For someone at home with assembler and C
it is very easy to use. And look at the code size: As handmade
with assembler. Not a single byte too much. C-- runs perfect
on the palmtop and comes complete with source and work bench,
very similar to Turbo-C. You can strip it down by compressing
the EXEs and removing the DOCs to less than 100KB and it's
free. Look into FIRE.C-- for the download site. If we had a
PAL library for SPHINX C--, I swear we would see extremely
small and fast PAL applications.

I always claimed: run away if you see a programming language
with a '+' in it's name, but run as fast as you can, if you
find 'visual' added. I should continue: stay if you find
a '-' or two.

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Thanks to those of you who helped me get my Direct Cable Connection
set up.  Transfile Win 200 worked like a charm!!
My biggest problem turned out to be that none of the Com ports on my
'good' computer would recognize the serial connection. I pulled
my old pentium 60 out from under the bed and got it set up, and it
worked perfectly the first time! I guess that will now be my permanent
"LX PC".
Thanks again folks,
Steve

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There were some threads earlier this month regarding Linux. My son is
disgusted with Win 95 and wants to learn Linux, almost bought Linux
RedHat 5.1 today in a software store.

Where can I send him on the web to learn Linux and download a public
domain version. Please reply via email off the list.

TIA
--
73

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> Download and install 'Transfile Win 200' from Yellow Computing on your
> W95 PC. It's freeware by HP (!); you can find it on a HP palmtop page or
> on S.U.P.E.R (don't remember exactly; I got it from an HP page).

Found another slight flaw in Transfile today.  I had last used it to
move a file from my desktop's A: drive.  Upon loading it today, there
was no floppy in that drive.  It totally crashed after searching for a
disk in that drive.  So don't leave it pointing to a: on the desktop!!

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> How does one get the upgrade?
>
> >Early xjack 2144's had the value set too low - there was a upgrade
> >(software fix) that reset the value.  I'm still using that modem.

I believe that it was then available from their bbs site quite a few
years ago.  I don't recall who owns them now but there might be a web
address.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:51:28 GMT
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From:         Theodore Heise 
Subject:      Re: The New Backgammon game...

In message  <199810241612.AAA24323@zinc.singnet.com.sg>, jorgen@PALMTOP.NET said:
>
> I tried the new backgammon game on SUPER- by Willy Chaplin. It's seams
> to be a great game. But how to I exit the game? Q will only start a
> new game on my 200LX. Anything I have missed out?

As others have mentioned, SysMgr can close it for you.  The
documentation says you exit the game by holding down both
shift keys, the alt key, and the control key--all at the
same time.  I've tried this, but been unable to get it to
work.

Ted

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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:18:30 -0700
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From:         Tony Olsen 
Subject:      Internet/email and 100LX... how do I set it up?
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SUBJECT: What programs do I need to view Internet web pages, and =
download POP3 e-mail?
=20
I'm selling my main computer, and until I get another one, my 100LX will =
be my only computer... so I need to make it internet ready so I can =
still receive (and send) email (and maybe still surf the web) while I'm =
without a computer.
=20
I know that many of you have been using your 100LX/200LX's as your main =
computers for a long time now, and many of you e-mail to this list via =
your LX's... so... how do I do it?
=20
I have an external 33.6 modem, so that's taken care of...
=20
What programs do I need to access POP3 email and view HTTP web pages?  I =
don't have a UNIX account so I can't use my TERMINAL program to dial =
into a UNIX account and use UNIX web programs... I want to do it all =
from my 100LX.
=20
Also, which options are available for free, and which ones cost money?  =
Is there a freeware program out there that will allow me to download =
POP3 email on my 100LX?  Please, swamp me with all of the details. =3D)  =
Time is short and I need my 100LX set up before my computer sells.
=20
Also, are there HPLX FTP, TELNET, TCP, and other programs out there?

Thanks in advance for your help! =3D)
=20
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I'm selling my main computer, and until I get =
another one, my=20
100LX will be my only computer... so I need to make it internet ready so =
I can=20
still receive (and send) email (and maybe still surf the web) while I'm =
without=20
a computer.


 


I know that many of you have been using your =
100LX/200LX's as=20
your main computers for a long time now, and many of you e-mail to this =
list via=20
your LX's... so... how do I do it?


 


I have an external 33.6 modem, so that's taken care=20
of...


 


What programs do I need to access POP3 email and =
view HTTP web=20
pages?  I don't have a UNIX account so I can't use my TERMINAL =
program to=20
dial into a UNIX account and use UNIX web programs... I want to do it =
all from=20
my 100LX.


 


Also, which options are available for free, and =
which ones=20
cost money?  Is there a freeware program out there that will allow =
me to=20
download POP3 email on my 100LX?  Please, swamp me with all of the =
details.=20
=3D)  Time is short and I need my 100LX set up before my computer=20
sells.


 


Also, are there HPLX FTP, TELNET, =
TCP, and other=20
programs out there?


 


Thanks in advance for your help! =3D)


 


          &nbs=
p;    =20
Tony Olsen =3D)


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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:22:55 -0700
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Subject:      Stacker....
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I have a diskette with Stacker 2.0, but I can't figure out how to =
install it on my 100LX's 10MB SunDisk...  the 10MB SunDisk doesn't work =
in my Libretto 50CT PCMCIA card drive.  If I copy the contents of the =
disk to the card, the installation program tells my I need to install it =
from my diskette.  Even when I install it from the diskette, it still =
says I eed to install it from the diskette... even though I am...

I noticed that the Installation program actually changes the Stacker =
driver during the installation, so that it knows who's computer it is =
installed on.  The security for this driver is so high I can't seem to =
get it running...

Has anyone figured out a way to nget it to work?  How?

Thanks,

                Tony =3D)

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I have a diskette with Stacker 2.0, =
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10MB=20
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copy the=20
contents of the disk to the card, the installation program tells my I =
need to=20
install it from my diskette.  Even when I install it from the =
diskette, it=20
still says I eed to install it from the diskette... even though I=20
am...


 


I noticed that the Installation =
program actually=20
changes the Stacker driver during the installation, so that it knows =
who's=20
computer it is installed on.  The security for this driver is so =
high I=20
can't seem to get it running...


 


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Thanks,


 


          &nbs=
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Date:         Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:33:26 -0700
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Sorry for the bombardment of questions, but I seem to have a lot of them =
today... =3D)

How do we take advantage of the LapLink 1.0 on the 200LX.  Has anyone =
played around with it?  Does it offer control of your desktop over a =
modem?  Is it text-based, or does it do graphics?  What do I need on my =
desktop for it to work?... will it work with the normal version 1.0 of =
LapLink?  Where can I get a copy of it?

Thanks,

            Tony Olsen =3D)

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Sorry for the bombardment of =
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How do we take advantage of the =
LapLink 1.0 on=20
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control=20
of your desktop over a modem?  Is it text-based, or does it do=20
graphics?  What do I need on my desktop for it to work?... will it =
work=20
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Thanks,


 


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              Ted Heise 
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On Sat, 24 Oct 1998, Tony Olsen wrote:

> SUBJECT: What programs do I need to view Internet web pages, and
> download POP3 e-mail?

If you can settle for e-mail there are several options.
Goin' Postal is probably the easiest to set up, LXTCP is
a very nice free package, and NetTamer is yet another option.

If you want web browsing, I think WWW/LX is your only choice.
From what I hear it's an excellent package.  It does run
about $90, I think.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA


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> Hi all;
> A question:  When the adapter is plugged
> in but not recharging, should the LX heat
> up in the battery area?     Hmmmmmm.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
>
I would say no unless I was using a high drain pc card.

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:44:14 EST
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Hello,
I am sorry but I cannot answer your question about rechargeable batteries
because I do not use them.

Take care,
Luisa3

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:16:59 -0800
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> If you can settle for e-mail...NetTamer is yet another option.

I d/led Nettamer and tried to set it up on my daughter's Toshiba t12xe.
I can get it to connect but not d/l mail.

Any basic advice in setting it up?



Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:20:08 -0500
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Darren, the LX should not heat up when the adapter is plugged in and not
recharging. I have 2-200LX's. They both have rechargeable batteries in them,
Radio Shack nickel metal hydride in one and nickel cadmium in the other.
When I hook both units to AC after disabling recharge mode, they never get
hot. Note that it is normal for the unit to get hot when it actually is
recharging batteries.

Some troubleshooting tips:

1) Confirm that you truly have disabled the recharging mode w/in Setup F9.

2) Confirm that the batteries are in your unit in the proper direction.

3) Do not mix 2 different types of batteries in the same unit.

4) Only use an AC adapter designed for use with the HP palmtop such as
(F1011A #ABA)

If all else fails, try using different batteries or AC adapter. Hopefully,
this will fix the problem. Otherwise, your unit may need to be checked out.

Regards,

Gary


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> Hi all;
> A question:  When the adapter is plugged
> in but not recharging, should the LX heat
> up in the battery area?     Hmmmmmm.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
>
I would say no unless I was using a high drain pc card.

Darren.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:38:02 +0200
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:04:20 -0500
 From: Gerhard Behrens 
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To: Unknown 



David,

>>Jorgen Wrote I tried the new backgammon game on SUPER-
by Willy Chaplin. It's seams to be a great game. But how
to I exit the game? Q will only start a new game on my
200LX. Anything I have missed out?<<

>I find the only way to exit it is to close it from
Application Manager (More - F6)<

It is easier than that. When with cursor on Ýquit¨ do not
press ÝEnter¨ but ÝFn¨+ÝDel¨. That - quite illogically -
exits the game.
 Gerhard

 PS :Due to a change in my email address I cannot post to
 the list. So you might repost my answer to the list to
 allow Jorgen or others as well to know how to exit
 Backgammon.



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A-ri-rang,  no araiyang...

;-)

Pablo KIM
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Fecha: Viernes 23 de Octubre de 1998 07:50 p.m.
Asunto: Re: Does Korean 200LX exist?


>Just ask yer friend to look fer one in Seoul.
>In the Lotte department store might do.
>
>BTW: Does anyone remember the little ditty
>that went: Korea, Korea, full ...
>to the tune of Araiyang.
>
>Semper mobilis,
>yor pal al :-) .............
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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Yes, at PalmtopPaper.COM we are selling the following SanDisk cards.
(And thanks for the chance to plug again).  Al Kind has actually been
very encouraging to me plug our stuff. However, I think it is best when
opportunities like this presents themselves in response to a question.

Description/Link Price Item #

SanDisk 10 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $119.00 C10
SanDisk 20 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $179.00 C20
SanDisk 30 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $229.00 C30
SanDisk 40 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $299.00 C40
SanDisk 48 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $359.00 C48



Higher Capacity Type II Cards


Description/Link Price Item #

SanDisk 85 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $559.00 C85
SanDisk 110 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $779.00 C110
SanDisk 150 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $899.00 C150
SanDisk 175 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $999.00 C175
SanDisk 220 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $1199.00 C220

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:39:08 +0200
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              Franklin Eekhout 
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>My 700LX has only one PCMCIA port. Where do you believe the other one to
>be located?


:-) Have a look inside! You'll find the DTP-2 card lurking there...

Franklin

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I am considering moving up to the 220MB SanDisk.

What I have not seen in either this posting or your web site is how fast the
disk is.  I am not looking for XXX milliseconds but more like a sense of how
long a common app takes to load from Flash versus internal RAM.

When I moved to a higher capacity disk a couple of years ago, I got a high
capacity flash card that was dog slow and had a major battle with the
different company to get it replaced.  Read that as $100 restocking fee.

Can anyone share their experience with the SanDisk 220MB.

Thanks

Hal Goldstein wrote:

> < will
> visit the site, but this gives you another chance to plug! (G))>>
>
> Yes, at PalmtopPaper.COM we are selling the following SanDisk cards.
> (And thanks for the chance to plug again).  Al Kind has actually been
> very encouraging to me plug our stuff. However, I think it is best when
> opportunities like this presents themselves in response to a question.
>
> Description/Link Price Item #
>
> SanDisk 10 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $119.00 C10
> SanDisk 20 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $179.00 C20
> SanDisk 30 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $229.00 C30
> SanDisk 40 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $299.00 C40
> SanDisk 48 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $359.00 C48
>
> Higher Capacity Type II Cards
>
> Description/Link Price Item #
>
> SanDisk 85 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $559.00 C85
> SanDisk 110 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $779.00 C110
> SanDisk 150 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $899.00 C150
> SanDisk 175 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $999.00 C175
> SanDisk 220 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $1199.00 C220
>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 14:37:24 -0500
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              David Ness 
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I have a 40mb Simple Tech card. I don't `feel' any difference between
my A: and C: drives. I also don't notice any difference between an HP
5mb card and my 40mb Simple Tech. The 40mb cost $159, by the way, about
1/2 of what a San Disk would have cost, and somewhat less than my 5mb
cost when I bought it back when I first got my 200LX.

Leland Hambley wrote:
>
> I am considering moving up to the 220MB SanDisk.
>
> What I have not seen in either this posting or your web site is how fast the
> disk is.  I am not looking for XXX milliseconds but more like a sense of how
> long a common app takes to load from Flash versus internal RAM.
>
> When I moved to a higher capacity disk a couple of years ago, I got a high
> capacity flash card that was dog slow and had a major battle with the
> different company to get it replaced.  Read that as $100 restocking fee.
>
> Can anyone share their experience with the SanDisk 220MB.
>
> Thanks
>

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TIA
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 11:58:45 -0800
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On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 08:16:59 -0800, Patrick West  =
wrote:

> > If you can settle for e-mail...NetTamer is yet another option.
>
> I d/led Nettamer and tried to set it up on my daughter's Toshiba t12xe.
> I can get it to connect but not d/l mail.
>
> Any basic advice in setting it up?

Hi Patrick,

What happens when you try to download your mail?

Check your password settings also check your SMTP and POP3 settings.



Regards,

Qman...

Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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->>I find the only way to exit it is to close it from
->Application Manager (More - F6)
.........................
->It is easier than that. When with cursor on Ýquit¨ do not
->press ÝEnter¨ but ÝFn¨+ÝDel¨. That - quite illogically -
->exits the game.
-> Gerhard

I tried it but that does not work for me.  When I press "Q" (for Quit), I
get a message saying "Quit?" which expects a Y to quit.  Any other key
just ignores the previsous quit request.  If at this point, instead of
pressing "Y" or "Enter" I press ÝFn¨+ÝDel¨, the game does not exit but
stays unchanged.

Maybe I misunderstood the instructions.

Jeff

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`Comma Separated Variable' (CSV) files are generally pretty easy to
transfer to anything. Is there a problem with that in your particular
circumstances?


> Arturo Galindo wrote:
>
> Hi there folks, I have a question that perhaps has been askesd before, if so; oplease have mercy
> of me. I wonder if there is any posibility to transfer tha data bases made with the hp 200 to
> microsoft access.
> TIA
> Arturo
>

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Franklin Eekhout wrote:
>
> >My 700LX has only one PCMCIA port. Where do you believe the other one to
> >be located?
>
> :-) Have a look inside! You'll find the DTP-2 card lurking there...
>
> Franklin

Franklin,

Am I to understand that I will find inside the 700LX another PCMCIA card
from Nokia plugged into a PCMCIA port? Like inside the lid where it is
really thick?

I was under the impression that the Nokia data card was built in the
internal circuitry and not a plug in card.

Anyone on the LX list ever had a 700LX apart?
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I don't have the 220 meg SanDisk card, but I do have the 40 meg SanDisk
Compact flash.  I can compare it to Times2Tech's 32 meg internal drive, which
is very fast, indeed.

Using a this batch file, I check the critical write time:

Echo off
copy d:\_sys|c123us.hlp c:\ test.dat
echo.| time
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
copy c:\test.dat c:\test2.dat
echo.| time
del c: test.dat
del c:testx.dat

The 10 writes, total 1 meg, take an average of 3.5 sec. on my double speed, 32
meg machine.  I don't remember exactly how much faster the T2T memory is than
HP's stock memory.

Editing the file so that all the writes go to and from the a: 40 meg SanDisk
compact flash (i.e., changing all the c:'s to a:'s) the time goes up to 5.7
sec., which is still quite acceptable.  If you search the list's archive, you
will find comparisons to other cards, and many are a lot slower than this.

I can only assume that the time will be the similar on your contemplated 20
meg card.

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David, I use a Sandisk 220mb card on my 64mb doublespeed 200LX. I was using
a 160mb & 224mb Simple card prior to that. Until Simple Tech came out with
the Type 1 160mb & 224mb cards, all their higher capacity cards had a 4-6
second initialization boot up delay. This problem seems to have been fixed
with their newer type 1 cards. Also, the Simple cards have traditionally had
better permormance (speed) then Sandisk. That is until recently. With
Sandisk's release of  their new higher capacity Type 1 cards, in my opinion,
they have the more marketable card. Sandisk cards have never had any
initialization boot up delays, there new cards seem to perform as fast as
the Simple cards and you will experience around 30-50% more battery life
with the new Sandisk cards. I think these facts alone make the Sandisk card
worth the extra money. Besides, the prices on Sandisk cards have been
dropping drastically, as has the price of most flash cards in general.
Sandisk cards are only 5-15% higher than Simple.

To directly answer your question, I tried accessing a very large database
file off my C: drive and then accessed the same file off my 224mb Sandisk
card. I saw absolutely no difference between the access times. The only
delay you will experience with the new higher capacity type 1 flash cards
from either Simple or Sandisk is a 2-3 second delay the first time you
access the card from within filer after turning on the machine. At least
this has been my experience. Hope this helps.

Regards,

Gary

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From: David Ness 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Software Carousel


>I have a 40mb Simple Tech card. I don't `feel' any difference between
>my A: and C: drives. I also don't notice any difference between an HP
>5mb card and my 40mb Simple Tech. The 40mb cost $159, by the way, about
>1/2 of what a San Disk would have cost, and somewhat less than my 5mb
>cost when I bought it back when I first got my 200LX.
>
>Leland Hambley wrote:
>>
>> I am considering moving up to the 220MB SanDisk.
>>
>> What I have not seen in either this posting or your web site is how fast
the
>> disk is.  I am not looking for XXX milliseconds but more like a sense of
how
>> long a common app takes to load from Flash versus internal RAM.
>>
>> When I moved to a higher capacity disk a couple of years ago, I got a
high
>> capacity flash card that was dog slow and had a major battle with the
>> different company to get it replaced.  Read that as $100 restocking fee.
>>
>> Can anyone share their experience with the SanDisk 220MB.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
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Leland, I responded to your question, but accidentally addressed it to David
Ness (who also replied to your message). Look for my feedback which went to
the mailing list.

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Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Software Carousel


>I am considering moving up to the 220MB SanDisk.
>
>What I have not seen in either this posting or your web site is how fast
the
>disk is.  I am not looking for XXX milliseconds but more like a sense of
how
>long a common app takes to load from Flash versus internal RAM.
>
>When I moved to a higher capacity disk a couple of years ago, I got a high
>capacity flash card that was dog slow and had a major battle with the
>different company to get it replaced.  Read that as $100 restocking fee.
>
>Can anyone share their experience with the SanDisk 220MB.
>
>Thanks
>
>Hal Goldstein wrote:
>
>> <> will
>> visit the site, but this gives you another chance to plug! (G))>>
>>
>> Yes, at PalmtopPaper.COM we are selling the following SanDisk cards.
>> (And thanks for the chance to plug again).  Al Kind has actually been
>> very encouraging to me plug our stuff. However, I think it is best when
>> opportunities like this presents themselves in response to a question.
>>
>> Description/Link Price Item #
>>
>> SanDisk 10 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $119.00 C10
>> SanDisk 20 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $179.00 C20
>> SanDisk 30 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $229.00 C30
>> SanDisk 40 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $299.00 C40
>> SanDisk 48 MB CompactFlash w/Type II Adapter (new) $359.00 C48
>>
>> Higher Capacity Type II Cards
>>
>> Description/Link Price Item #
>>
>> SanDisk 85 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $559.00 C85
>> SanDisk 110 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $779.00 C110
>> SanDisk 150 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $899.00 C150
>> SanDisk 175 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $999.00 C175
>> SanDisk 220 MB High Capacity Type II PC Card (new) $1199.00 C220
>>
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:31:17 -0500
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I think your note should probably have gone to Leland Hambley, as it
was his question. Mine was just a response. As to price, you may be
right, but if I read a recent message properly a SanDisk 40mb was
being sold for $299 while I paid $159 for my Simple Tech, so either
there's lots of mark-up there or there's still some `substantial'
difference way in excess of 5-15%

Gary Silverman wrote:
>
> David, I use a Sandisk 220mb card on my 64mb doublespeed 200LX. I was using
> a 160mb & 224mb Simple card prior to that. Until Simple Tech came out with
> the Type 1 160mb & 224mb cards, all their higher capacity cards had a 4-6
> second initialization boot up delay. This problem seems to have been fixed
> with their newer type 1 cards. Also, the Simple cards have traditionally had
> better permormance (speed) then Sandisk. That is until recently. With
> Sandisk's release of  their new higher capacity Type 1 cards, in my opinion,
> they have the more marketable card. Sandisk cards have never had any
> initialization boot up delays, there new cards seem to perform as fast as
> the Simple cards and you will experience around 30-50% more battery life
> with the new Sandisk cards. I think these facts alone make the Sandisk card
> worth the extra money. Besides, the prices on Sandisk cards have been
> dropping drastically, as has the price of most flash cards in general.
> Sandisk cards are only 5-15% higher than Simple.
>
> To directly answer your question, I tried accessing a very large database
> file off my C: drive and then accessed the same file off my 224mb Sandisk
> card. I saw absolutely no difference between the access times. The only
> delay you will experience with the new higher capacity type 1 flash cards
> from either Simple or Sandisk is a 2-3 second delay the first time you
> access the card from within filer after turning on the machine. At least
> this has been my experience. Hope this helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gary
>
>
>

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In a message dated 98-10-25 18:31:32 EST, you write:

<< As to price, you may be
 right, but if I read a recent message properly a SanDisk 40mb was
 being sold for $299 >>

I got my 40M SanDisk at Office Depot for $199.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:11:23 +1030
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Subject:      Re: Why (not) release source code
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David Becher  writes:
> I have no qualms about releasing the assembly language or C++ parts
> of my PAL library to you or anyone else (especially you - hey I am
> using your software right now!). You have allowed other people to
> modify your software. Others DONT and I have to resepct their
> rights. I feel especially strongly about Gilles and his PALs due the
> service that they have done to the palmtop community.

I can't agree more.  Everyone should respect the right of others to
put whatever copyright restrictions they like on their code (including
disallowing modifications).

My campaign is to try and convince the original authors to allow
modifications, not to disregard existing copyright restrictions.

The question still remains:

Were the PAL authors asked if they wanted to distribute your
improvements ?  If they refused, what reason did they give ?

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:01:38 +0200
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Al Kind wrote:

>      Hey, Where's my "Kudu" you guys promised?
>

Living in Africa I can organize a Kudu - unfortunately you will not be
allowed to export the meat....

And...

Al - how do you know so much about the Kudu?

Groetnis / Regards,

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@20 plus shipping
thanks
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I have a Toshiba Libretto-50CT PCMCIA Floppy drive, and I wonder if it =
is compatible on my 100LX...  I now that the 100LX doesn't have a =
completely standard Type II PCMCIA card slot, and it may destroy the =
PCMCIA floppy drive because of possible voltage current =
incompatibilities...  Has anyone tried this?

I don't know much about PCMCIA cards, but on the card is the following =
diagram:

3.3V  Ý  ¨
5V     ÝX¨
16     ÝX¨
32     Ý  ¨
DMA Ý  ¨

I think this means that this PMCIA floppy drive uses 5 volts, and is =
16-bit.  What is the 100LX?  What else do I need to check before I know =
if they're compatible... and before I know for sure that my 100LX won't =
fry my floppy drive OR the floppy drive won't damage my 100LX.

What pitfalls should I check for?

Thanks,

                        Tony =3D)

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I have a Toshiba Libretto-50CT =
PCMCIA Floppy=20
drive, and I wonder if it is compatible on my 100LX...  I now that =
the=20
100LX doesn't have a completely standard Type II PCMCIA card slot, and =
it may=20
destroy the PCMCIA floppy drive because of possible voltage current=20
incompatibilities...  Has anyone tried this?


 


I don't know much about PCMCIA =
cards, but on the=20
card is the following diagram:


 


3.3V  Ý  ¨


5V     =
ÝX¨


16     =
ÝX¨


32     Ý =20
¨


DMA Ý  ¨


 


I think this means that this PMCIA =
floppy drive=20
uses 5 volts, and is 16-bit.  What is the 100LX?  What else do =
I need=20
to check before I know if they're compatible... and before I know for =
sure that=20
my 100LX won't fry my floppy drive OR the floppy drive won't damage my=20
100LX.


 


What pitfalls should I check =
for?


 


Thanks,


 


          &nbs=
p;            =
;=20
Tony =3D)


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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:13:52 -0500
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how much is a 4mb hp200lx going for now?
(single speed)
I was thinking about getting one for reading txt files and playing a tiny
game or two during the day (when I'm away from my beloved p2 233 :P)
I have this neat little text-graphics game, kinda like a star-trek game
clone that I'm looking for on one of my cd's, when I find it I'll send it to
anyone who wants it... It was quite addicting when I played it on my old 486
desktop.

     -James, N9XLC
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 10:53:14 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Adapter use

2) Confirm that the batteries are in your unit in the
proper direction. If ya don't put dem in correctly,
da dspy don't come on, so ya gotta put em in right, no?

Boy, sometimes a simple question goes through
some inneresting convoluted contortions.  Not a
complaint, just an observation.  Is everybody happy yet?

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Hi James,
I have a 6MB HP200LX for sale for $400 if you're in California.


James R. Hall wrote:
>
> how much is a 4mb hp200lx going for now?
> (single speed)
> I was thinking about getting one for reading txt files and playing a tiny
> game or two during the day (when I'm away from my beloved p2 233 :P)
> I have this neat little text-graphics game, kinda like a star-trek game
> clone that I'm looking for on one of my cd's, when I find it I'll send it to
> anyone who wants it... It was quite addicting when I played it on my old 486
> desktop.
>
>      -James, N9XLC
>      -jrhall@globalsite.net
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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:54:11 -0600
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Subject:      Adapter Use

My LX does get warm sometimes when using the AC adapter, but it only occurs
when using the modem for an extended period, not when just sitting there
with the adapter plugged into it with either a built-in or DOS program
running.

73 Jeff


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
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I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX =
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playing with the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?

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I just bought a 4Megger @ e-bay and paid $300.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent:   Sunday, October 25, 1998 8:14 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Used hp200lx?

how much is a 4mb hp200lx going for now?
(single speed)
I was thinking about getting one for reading txt files and playing a tiny
game or two during the day (when I'm away from my beloved p2 233 :P)
I have this neat little text-graphics game, kinda like a star-trek game
clone that I'm looking for on one of my cd's, when I find it I'll send it to
anyone who wants it... It was quite addicting when I played it on my old 486
desktop.

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              Tim Pitman 
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Subject:      Re: SPHiNX C--, Spectrum Emulation
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I've been using C-- for palmtop programming for more than 2 years now (first
on my 95lx, now on my 100 :)  Since I've only got a 1.8Mb flash, it's small
size is a real help, and the programs it generates are really tiny.  I've
written some libraries for C-- providing stuff similar to PAL, though
they're not really complete.  If theres enough interest, (and with all this
free source stuff going on), I'll put them up on the web.

Off the topic a bit, I've been doing a bit of research about Sinclair ZX
Spectrum emulators.  The Spectrum was a little computer that loaded games
from cassette tape and plugged into a tv.  In its time it was really
popular, so there are THOUSANDS of great games and programs availible free
(and legally) on the internet.  Sooooo, I though why not have this as a
source of great palmtop games...

I downloaded an emulator and the games run fine, with one tiny problem....
On my single speed :( palmtop they run at 23% of proper speed.  (my desktop
computer runs them at up to 3500%...)   I've therefore decieded to try and
make
a spectrum emulator thats optimised for the palmtop so that (hopefully) it
will at
least run games at 100% speed on a double speed palmtop.  I've got a couple
of months break coming up in a month, so I'll get to work then....  (It'll
be written
in C-- and assembler, of course Ýnone of that bloated/slow C stuff¨  :)

Tim

PS: does anyone know of an easy way to obtain the doable speed upgrade in
Australia??

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Peichl 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Sunday, 25 October 1998 11:51
Subject: SPHiNX C--


To all programmers among you:

Please have a look at the SPHiNX C-- compiler and consider
switching to it. This is an outstanding incredible development
tool for the HP palmtop. To demonstrate it's power I ported a
fire simulation from VGA to CGA. It's on SUPERNEW as FIRE.ZIP.
C-- (how I like this name!) is not a full ANSI C compiler. It
has no pointers (anyhow difficult to handle) and is somehow
closer to assembler. For someone at home with assembler and C
it is very easy to use. And look at the code size: As handmade
with assembler. Not a single byte too much. C-- runs perfect
on the palmtop and comes complete with source and work bench,
very similar to Turbo-C. You can strip it down by compressing
the EXEs and removing the DOCs to less than 100KB and it's
free. Look into FIRE.C-- for the download site. If we had a
PAL library for SPHINX C--, I swear we would see extremely
small and fast PAL applications.

I always claimed: run away if you see a programming language
with a '+' in it's name, but run as fast as you can, if you
find 'visual' added. I should continue: stay if you find
a '-' or two.

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Date:         Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:48:52 -0800
Reply-To:     "Joseph S. Barrera III" 
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Subject:      Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?
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> I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds
> like the 200LX upgrade that some of us have been
> describing.  Anybody spent some time playing with the
> machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?

I own one. Its primary fault is its short battery life -- about two hours.

- Joe

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:57:54 +1100
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              Tim Pitman 
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One of my most unique uses of C-- for programming on the palmtop was a
program for my 95lx that would play in real time sound samples sent to it
via the serial port.  Kinda like Real Audio

A desktop computer running some program that I'd modified would capture
sound from the line in on the soundcard and send it out the serial port,
where the connected palmtop would play it; I could listen to the radio on my
palmtop (sound quality wasn't great, but the 95lx did at least have an 8 bit
digital to analogue converter which the 100/200lx doesn't have)

Not real practical, that little creation, but interesting and fun :)  My
latest C-- project (for about 2 years now...) is a programming environment
along the lines of Visual Basic for the palmtop.  The scripting side is
finished, and it's the graphical IDE that I'm working on now (100% C--; none
of that bloated PAL stuff)  Maybe in a few months it'll be finished and i'll
chuck it on da net.  You people will be the first to know when I do, of
course :)

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Peichl 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Sunday, 25 October 1998 11:51
Subject: SPHiNX C--


To all programmers among you:

Please have a look at the SPHiNX C-- compiler and consider
switching to it. This is an outstanding incredible development
tool for the HP palmtop. To demonstrate it's power I ported a
fire simulation from VGA to CGA. It's on SUPERNEW as FIRE.ZIP.
C-- (how I like this name!) is not a full ANSI C compiler. It
has no pointers (anyhow difficult to handle) and is somehow
closer to assembler. For someone at home with assembler and C
it is very easy to use. And look at the code size: As handmade
with assembler. Not a single byte too much. C-- runs perfect
on the palmtop and comes complete with source and work bench,
very similar to Turbo-C. You can strip it down by compressing
the EXEs and removing the DOCs to less than 100KB and it's
free. Look into FIRE.C-- for the download site. If we had a
PAL library for SPHINX C--, I swear we would see extremely
small and fast PAL applications.

I always claimed: run away if you see a programming language
with a '+' in it's name, but run as fast as you can, if you
find 'visual' added. I should continue: stay if you find
a '-' or two.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:27:12 -0800
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List , pyarnell@PROAXIS.COM
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Subject:      LxCiC 1.3
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G'day
I'm not the only one who had this problem soooooo
I have a Creative ModemBlaster 14.4 card modem, LxCic 1.0 worked fine
with it, but ver. 1.1 didn't. I tried the 1.3 version and it works
great!! This is just an impression with no factual backup, but my
downloads seem to be faster now. It's a nice piece of work. If you're
having modem problems, give it a shot.

regards,

Paul

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:28:46 +0000
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> I've written some libraries for C-- providing stuff similar to PAL, =
though
> they're not really complete.  If theres enough interest, (and with all =
this
> free source stuff going on), I'll put them up on the web.

I would appreciate it.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 04:34:14 -0600
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Well, there are two methods that come to mind.  First, no one has
mentioned the obvious method of passing a command line argument to
the batch file.  The original post didn't clarify whether or not
this would be suitable or not.  For example:

File remdir.bat:
cd %1
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              Brian Sugita 
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Subject:      Phone Book Question
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Hi all, I'm fairly new to the 200LX and I was working
in the phonebook app the other day, and somehow
I managed to change the listing on the left of names
to a listing of the phone numbers.  I have it set to
sort by name, but the list is the phone numbers and
when I highlight the number the rest of the data card
comes up on the right.  I want it to list names, as
how it currently is I can do a quick search by typing
a few letters of the name.  I've tried setting many of
the settings in the pull down menus and can't find
how I changed it.  I read the manual but it was very
unhelpful in the situation.  I know that the answer is
most likely very simple, but I can't find it and would
appreciate a hand.  Thanks!

Brian S
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Subject:      Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?
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In a message dated 10/26/98 12:06:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Dan.Sommer@M.CC.UTAH.EDU writes:

> I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX upgrade
> that some of us have been describing.  Anybody spent some time playing with
> the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?
>

I played around with it for two days, installing the English Win 95 OS.  It
messed up which key is which.  I could not get the modem to work.  It is
definitely not for the novice, and it is still quite expensive.  There's no
real support, and I found t6he keys more difficult to use than the 200LX.  Oh,
and forget about battery life...perhaps one hour of use.

That said, it's a cute little bugger.  I would have liked to have kept it, but
the minuses outweighed the pluses for me.

Mark

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:01:23 +0100
Reply-To:     Paulo.Custodio@alcatel.de
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R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
Ý...¨
> del *.*  (You have to create the file yes.dat for this example, which contains
> a single 'Y' and a carriage return).
Ý...¨

Or:
        echo Y | del *.*

--
+-------V-------+ Paulo Custodio
| A L C A T E L | Phone : +49.30.7002 4706  Fax: +49.30.7002 4780
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:14:18 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" 
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From:         "Liam M. Early" 
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>Off the topic a bit, I've been doing a bit of research about Sinclair
ZX
>Spectrum emulators.  The Spectrum was a little computer that loaded
games
>from cassette tape and plugged into a tv.  In its time it was really
>popular, so there are THOUSANDS of great games and programs availible
free
>(and legally) on the internet.  Sooooo, I though why not have this as
a
>source of great palmtop games...
>I downloaded an emulator and the games run fine, with one tiny
problem....
>On my single speed :( palmtop they run at 23% of proper speed.  (my
desktop
>computer runs them at up to 3500%...)   I've therefore decieded to
try and
>make
>a spectrum emulator thats optimised for the palmtop so that
(hopefully) it
>will atleast run games at 100% speed on a double speed palmtop.  I've
got a couple
>of months break coming up in a month, so I'll get to work then....
(It'll
>be written


Wow that brings back memories, how will the HP cope with the Spectrum
color?   Jet Pac & Jet Set Willy were some of the best games in those
day....sigh.....8-)

Best regards.......Liam
HP200LX 2x 6Mb owner, Bunbury, Western Australia

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I recently saw several 200LX's trading on eBay for
$175.00.

Steve



>Hi James,
>I have a 6MB HP200LX for sale for $400 if you're in California.
>
>
>James R. Hall wrote:
>>
>> how much is a 4mb hp200lx going for now?
>> (single speed)
>> I was thinking about getting one for reading txt files and playing a tiny
>> game or two during the day (when I'm away from my beloved p2 233 :P)
>> I have this neat little text-graphics game, kinda like a star-trek game
>> clone that I'm looking for on one of my cd's, when I find it I'll send it
to
>> anyone who wants it... It was quite addicting when I played it on my old
486
>> desktop.
>>
>>      -James, N9XLC
>>      -jrhall@globalsite.net
>>      -certified NERD
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:05:45 +0100
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Tim Pitman wrote:
>
Ý...¨
> Off the topic a bit, I've been doing a bit of research about Sinclair ZX
> Spectrum emulators.  The Spectrum was a little computer that loaded games
> from cassette tape and plugged into a tv.  In its time it was really
> popular, so there are THOUSANDS of great games and programs availible free
> (and legally) on the internet.  Sooooo, I though why not have this as a
> source of great palmtop games...
Ý...¨

Good old days, when I knew the Z80 assembly opcodes by hard, and
programmed directly with an Hex-loader... None of this visual stuff that
exists today... (I still remeber some, as C9 for ret, C3 for jmp...)

If you want some starting point there is a Spectrum Emulator for
X-Windows (Unix) that comes with source: xzx - I have played with it a
bit.

Paulo.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:18:30 -0000
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I used the IR with Intelllink, not quite the same product but I bet it is
the same at that level.   I had to make sure the MS Irda stuff was all
disabled (it gets in the way).  Then on W95 I have a COM5: that is the IR
port.  The intelllink bit on the HP just has to be told to use the IR not
com1 - it asks that when it starts (press R for IR or the like).

It just works !

I've never got the IRDA to work.  My suspicion is that you are being *too*
clever with it.

BTW the cable over COM1 was much quicker than the IR, and as I could not
make the HP TFWIN200 work over IR (I believe others have succeeded) I needed
the cable anyhow.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:22:04 -0000
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Yes...local files means having the ADB file etc actually on the Windows
machine.  You might do that if you can the connectivity pack on the PC, and
actually used the apps there.  Equally 'local' can mean that the local drive
is in fact a creation of a network redirector, i.e. a network drive.

That could be a drive produced by Laplink, mapped to the palmtop drives.

A few people have worked on producing utilities to convert to/from palmtop
file formats on the PC, anc the connectivity pack has some capability.  Then
you could be using Intellsync on local files too.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 06:28:41 -0600
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On Mon, Oct 26, Brian Sugito     West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:32:16 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of
> Hal Goldstein

> < would somebody get ahold of one?  What about 200LX's for other
> languages?>>
>
> I am almost positive it exists, but unless you are in Korea, I would
> have know idea how to get a hold of one.

It most certainly exists! I bought one just a couple months back for a
colleague of mine in Trinidad (it was about 3 months old at the time). It
has korean characters on the keypad (along with english ones) and includes a
korean owners manual otherwise its just like the english version. If you're
interested i could give you the email address of the person i bought it from
in Seoul...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:37:53 -0600
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Brian
MOVE the field (NAME) to the leftmost F8
and it should oughta be OK.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:59:26 -0500
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Hello:

        Has anybody ever tried this PC card in the HP200? According to the
data sheet, the current rating is well below the HP200 limit. However
there is some confusion as to the PCMCIA release #- 2.1 or 2.0. Would 2.1
work in the
HP200?

        Thanks

        Dave

Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:24:27 -0800
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I owned a PC-110 for 12 months.  It was nice, but the extra inch width,
compared to the 200LX, made it too big to fit in your pocket.  Since it was
too big to fit in my pocket, I ended up selling it, and going for the
Libretto 50CT.

The PC-110 has the following:
* Intel 486-33SX
* 512KB memory card
* 8-24MB RAM (range)
* VGA screen (640x480 at 256 colors)
* Japanese keyboard layout (with their english character counterparts)
* Type III PCMCIA card slot (or 2 Type II's)
* Built in 2400 baud Data, 9600 baud fax, modem.
* 8-bit audio recording and playback
* also doubles as a telephone (for japanese gadget freaks =) )
* 4 MB harddrive!!!  (yep, you got that right!)

Most people ended having to use a Type III PCMCIA harddrive for their
harddrive, since the built-in harddrive isn't worth much.  This leaves most
users with no extra PCMCIA slot.

The screen can do 256 colors at 640x480, but it takes a special BIOS upgrade
to get this to work.  Usually, you'll get the unit with the BIOS upgrade
already done.  Without this upgrade, you'll only get 16 colors.

The keyboard is japanese, so under my english Windows95 keyboard mapping, I
ended up with 2 japanese function keys that don't don't anything.

The keyboard has little tactile feedback.  I found I was able to type 3
times faster on my 200LX because of this.

The built-in modem pops out, and looks really cool... but the 2400 baud data
transfer is a joke.  It's funny that the figured it was worth more to have a
fast FAX transfer (9600) than a DATA transfer (2400).  I hear there's an
upgrade someone is doing that will upgrade this pitiful modem into something
better.

People have been looking into upgrading the 486-33SX to a 586-150MHz (AMD),
but last I heard this was impossible.

There are 2 knobs on the front on the palmtop.  One is for voice input, and
the other one goes to your ear... and with the telephone cord plugged in,
voila!, you have a small telephone... it never comes in handy (how many
times do you need to use a telephone, but all you see is a telephone cord?),
but it's a fun gadget thing, and it looks cool to show it off. =)

Conclusion:  Because of many of it's limitations, the PC-110 isn't a good
200LX replacement... because of it's form factor, and poor keyboard layout.

                Tony

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Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX upgrade
that some of us have been describing.  Anybody spent some time playing with
the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:44:10 -0600
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Rod, and others.


We hope to finalize the 1999 HP PALMTOP PAPER CD Infobase the first week
of November. Jorgen and others are working very hard to complete an HTML
version of the tech ref manual readable on the palmtop via HV.

If there is source code that would be good to add the \ONDISK\PAL
subdirectory (or elsewhere on the CD), now is the time to decide.
Someone needs to be "in charge" gathering the source code and telling me
how you want it structured on the CD.

I know it is short notice, but it sounds like it would be worth the
effort.  Rod, or someone else would you be willing to take the lead?

Thanks,

Hal at Thaddeus

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:48:30 -0600
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        <>

        What's e-bay?

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:53:37 -0500
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I apologize if you consider this a waste 'o bandwidth but I just wanted
to share a experince I had with two HPLX vendors. I think it's good to
give this type off feedback so that others can feel comfortable in their
dealings with.

32MB Upgrade from times2tech:
Mack not only upgraded my palmtop to a kick ass 32B but he included
clasp repair and new battery cover free. It doesn't sound like a lot but
he didn't HAVE to do it. It's not like he has any real competition.

48MB Simple Tech Card from Marcan Distribution:
I sent an order for a 40MB from MD for $159 (best price around). The
order was delayed but Mark negotiated a 48MB card in order to make up
for the delay. So I wound up with a 48MB card for $159... a hell of
deal!


Thank you both time2tech and Marcan.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:53:07 -0600
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Subject:      Arachne browser...

Has anyone tried running the DOS based browser 'Arachne' on the LX?  Any
luck?
I understand it has an email and FTP client as well.

Steve

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:01:40 -0500
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>        What's e-bay?


That is the most famous (I guess) online auction.
www.ebay.com  (check Porbables in the Computer
section)

Regards,
Yujin

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:19:52 -0600
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Okay, dug up a copy of the batch file example that allows user specified
input from within the batch file, not on the command line.  It uses
standard DOS commands - not any add-ons or external third-party products.
This is just a simple example - you would obviously change the prompts
and the environment variable name to suit your needs.

rem=======Example Batch File====================================
@echo off
rem INPUT.BAT
rem This will copy your input to the environment variable INPUT_
echo Give Your Input:
fc con nul /lb1 /n | time | find "    1:  "> setinput.bat
echo @echo off> enter.bat
echo set input_=%%4>> enter.bat
call setinput
del setinput.bat
del enter.bat
echo Your input is now in environment variable INPUT_
rem=======End of Example Batch File=============================

I do not claim authorship of this - I think it was posted to our
list some time back, but I searched briefly through the archives
and couldn't find it.  Apologies to the anonymous originator - I
may be able to locate this person when I return to work later in
the week.  Note that this works well in our DOS 5, and perhaps
DOS 6.2x as well.  I have observed that it requires some tweaking
when running unders Windows NT.  Can't remember about Windows 95...

I'll leave the exercise of *understanding* it to the reader!

-Chris Lott

p.s.  I *did* figure it out - an absolutely amazing work!

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:25:59 -0500
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I have seen Jorgen's palmpilot modem hack for the 200lx
(http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm)

Does anyone offer this commercially? I'm not very good at prying open
small devices and working with small tools. I would feel more
comfortable with a finished product that is tested and backed by someone
that knows what the heck they're doing :-)

If it's not available commercially maybe we should encourage some of the
vendor-members of this list. I, for one, would be willing to pay 15-20%
over the market value of the palmpilot modem for this service.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:27:52 -0800
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Subject:      ebay query for 200lx ÝRe: Used hp200lx?¨
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I use the following one-liner to quickly search for 100lx,200lx,1000lx
machines:

http://search.ebay.com/cgi-bin/texis/ebay/results.html?query=%28100lx%2C200l
x%2C1000lx%29

The stuff after the "query=" is just (100lx,200lx,1000lx) with the (,) chars
mapped to hex.
So if you only care about 200lx, then you would use %28200lx%29 instead.

Cheers,

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:04:42 +0100
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Tim Pitman wrote:

> Off the topic a bit, I've been doing a bit of research about Sinclair ZX
> Spectrum emulators.  The Spectrum was a little computer that loaded games
> from cassette tape and plugged into a tv.  In its time it was really
> popular, so there are THOUSANDS of great games and programs availible free
> (and legally) on the internet.  Sooooo, I though why not have this as a
> source of great palmtop games...

I remember the Spectrum. Lots of nice games. It is true that most of them
are freely availiable on the net, but it isn't 100% legal to distribute
them (not the major part of them anyway). It's more of a "don't care"
situation, where the original publishers don't care about the programs or
don't even exist anymore...

> I downloaded an emulator and the games run fine, with one tiny problem....
> On my single speed :( palmtop they run at 23% of proper speed.  (my desktop
> computer runs them at up to 3500%...)   I've therefore decieded to try and
> make
> a spectrum emulator thats optimised for the palmtop so that (hopefully) it
> will at
> least run games at 100% speed on a double speed palmtop.  I've got a couple
> of months break coming up in a month, so I'll get to work then....  (It'll
> be written
> in C-- and assembler, of course Ýnone of that bloated/slow C stuff¨  :)

I've tried several ZX Spectrum emulators, and they're all a bit on the
slow side on the LX. Nuclear ZX, commonly regarded as one of the fastest
Speccy emulators (written in Asm and Pascal), runs about 40-50% speed,
depending on which program. This is the fastest emulator I've found that
can run on the LX. (standard single speed LX, that is)

There is another emulator, called Warejevo (written in 100% Asm), that is
commonly known as the fastest Spectrum emulator ever made, but it must use
286-only instructions (protected mode?), because it always crashes the LX
within a few seconds of play. (The manual does say it requires a 286, but
I figured I might get lucky, but it didn't turn out that way :-(


Anyway, I agree with you. We need a Spectrum emulator, there's no reason
why the Psion 5 crowd should be the only ones with a Spectrum emulator!
:-)


I'll dig up some links for Nuclear LX and Warajevo later.


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:14:51 -0500
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Subject:      RAM refresh reprogrammer, Portfolio RAMcard reader

        Hello all,

    I don't remember, whom I told about a way to use RAM refresh rate
    custom settings to gain free CPU cycles; but that old program is
    called SPEEDRAM.ZIP, I think it was on GARBO. What it does is it
    resets DRAM chip refresh values from 18 microsecs to 65 microsecs
    or other hand-picked value. That should boost CPU power by 2-10%.
    I don't know if the special memory chips inside HPLX are suitable,
    it was done with regular XT, 286 machines in mind.

    If anyone still uses these: I have found a local used computer
    equipment store, which has desktop readers for Portfolio RAMcards.
    These consist of an external card receptacle box, a thick 37 wire
    cable and an ISA-8 add-on card, that goes into desktop PC. With
    all drivers on disk/documentation shrinkwrapped. Also, sidecart
    serial port for Portfolio and RAM cards, I think 1Mbit size are
    available. I think the card reader should cost about 15USD.

            Sincerely: Tamas Feher

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Sommer 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:05 PM
Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>>I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX
upgrade that some of us have been describing.  Anybody spent some time
playing with the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?<<

Dan,

I recently picked up a PC110 on the net, and here is my experience with the
unit so far.

The model I have is the YD1 i believe which includes a 4mb flash drive, 8mb
RAM, 4.7" color VGA screen, 2 Type II (or 1 Type III) PCMCIA port, 1 compact
flash memory port, soundblaster compatible audio with mic & speaker, and a
2400 baud internal modem.

The hardware itself is excellent, the screen is bright and clear (actually i
wish i could down the backlight a little further to save battery life),
keyboard is good (kind of a cross between the HP100/200 and a thinkpad
keyboard).  The only hardware glitch i could see involves the mic/on&off
hook switch, its a little delicate and i fear it may break off easy, but
otherwise im quite impressed with the hardware setup.

Software wise, since i currently only have the 4mb flash drive C: I have Dos
7 installed with a few dos utilities and the English version of Personaware
PIM which i downloaded from the net.   If you don't want to use personaware
and can live without Kanji (japanese) display support you can have DOS 7
with about 1.8mb of free space for your own PIM or other software on the
flash.  Of course you can installed Compact Flash memory, Type II flash
cards, or Type III hard drives and make them bootable with different OS's if
you wish.  I may setup a Win95 Type III hard disk and only use it when in
near power :)

Battery Life, the secret weapon of the HP 100/200lx and the bane of just
about every other handheld in existence sans the PalmPilot.  The 110s
battery life is more akin to that of a notebook than a handheld, Ive been
getting between 3-4 hours of battery life from my unit so far, but I don't
use the suspend feature which enables instant-on performance at the cost of
draining the batteries faster when not in use.

On the plus side for the batteries, extras are easily available as it uses a
standard sized camcorder battery, and the battery is Lithium/Ion so its very
light and small with no memory effect, etc.  If your usage habits include
putting your handheld on a charger at night, then you should be ok with the
110's battery as it will survive a typical day of usage.

All in all im pleased with it, and it may replace my 100lx + 4mb/2400b type
II card, but the battery life will take some getting used to as its much
more limited than the HP's.

As far as Gee Wiz factor, the PC110 must be seen to be believed, its
basically an IBM 750cs notebook in a formfactor only a bit larger than the
HP100lx, and the color screen while im sure it helps limit the battery life,
its great for working in a dark car or just about anywhere else for that
matter.  I keep trying to find uses for it, as its just so cool to play
with. 

Hope this helps, if you have any other questions about it fire away, Ill
answer what i can.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com











Documentation on the net has been great as the included doc is in japanese,
its pre

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:59:37 -0800
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I have seen much discussion on synchronizing and transferring palmtop =
data to and from Windows desktop applications.  It just occurred to me =
that an ODBC driver for the Palmtop file formats could be a perfect =
solution.  I don't know much about the specifics in creating the driver, =
but I have used ODBC to exchange data between Windows desktop =
applications. (e.g. Linking Dbase IV table to a MS Access Database).  So =
I don't know if it is even possible.

If it is possible then it would be very easy to transfer data to and =
from the palmtop using almost all Microsoft products or any ODBC aware =
application.  It would not be necessary to create a new application each =
time a new PIM is introduced to the market (i.e. Schedule+, Outlook, =
Act!), just the interface to link the ODBC tables to the PIM.

It might even be possible to use Windows 95/98 Briefcase to do the =
synchronizing.  If your not familiar with the Briefcase, it is possible =
to use it to synchronize two (linked) MS Access databases.  If both =
databases have changed, the differing records are passed and both =
databases are updated.

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Don.

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Is the 4.7" color screen measured horizontal or diagonally?  In other words, is it bigger or smaller than the HP200LX?

How much did you pay for the unit that you described below?

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Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>>I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX
upgrade that some of us have been describing.  Anybody spent some time
playing with the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?<<

Dan,

I recently picked up a PC110 on the net, and here is my experience with the
unit so far.

The model I have is the YD1 i believe which includes a 4mb flash drive, 8mb
RAM, 4.7" color VGA screen, 2 Type II (or 1 Type III) PCMCIA port, 1 compact
flash memory port, soundblaster compatible audio with mic & speaker, and a
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:15:20 +0100
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Is there realy NO ONE who have tried the direct connection with WWW/LX
and Window$ ?

Am I the only person who think that this would be great if it worked.

ANY input is appreciated!!!

> > I read at www.dasoft.com that WWW/LX is able to connect to internet via
> > a computer that is using PPP/SLIP using the "direct" connection.
> >
> > Does that mean that You can connect Your hp200lx to the serial port on
> a P
> > that is "on" the Internet, and thereby downloading Your email and news
> > with post/lx.
> > I read that it had been done with Linux.
> > If one (against his/her will) is using Window$ 95/NT4, is it possible
> > to do the above?
> >
> > How is it done? Any ideas or experiences?
> >
> >        /tomas moberg                         Uppsala

> The computer that you hook up to has to act as a server. That problem
> really is the speed of the serial port on the lx, which is not as fast as
> using a modem. I haven't done any of this tho, not having any server
> stuff.
> Hopefully someone else can give you a more practical response.
>
> Darren.
>
> "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

      /tomas moberg
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I am interested to hear about other peoples experience with networking
with the hp200lx.

Is there any network tools for the hp if You have a working PCMCIA
network card.
A network diagnostic tool, like a sniffer for dos.


      /tomas moberg
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Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>Is the 4.7" color screen measured horizontal or diagonally?  In other
words, is it bigger or smaller than the HP200LX?


The screen is about 1" shorter horizontally, and 1" longer vertically than
the HP100/200lx screen.  Its VGA resolution and isnt squished like the HP
screen is.

>How much did you pay for the unit that you described below?

I payed $190 for mine.  T-ZONE japan has them for 29000 yen new which comes
to about $265 US if you can deal with having it shipped from Japan,
otherwise Dynamism sells them in the states, their web site lists them at
$595 but I emailed them asking why they were so much more than TZONE and the
price was lowered to $350 so they will negotiate it seems.

Dan
driden@stlnet.com

>
>-----Original Message-----
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Sommer 
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
>Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:05 PM
>Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?
>
>
>>>I've heard a little about the IBM PC110 and it sounds like the 200LX
>upgrade that some of us have been describing.  Anybody spent some time
>playing with the machine?  Thoughts? Reactions?  Viable replacement?<<
>
>Dan,
>
>I recently picked up a PC110 on the net, and here is my experience with the
>unit so far.
>
>The model I have is the YD1 i believe which includes a 4mb flash drive, 8mb
>RAM, 4.7" color VGA screen, 2 Type II (or 1 Type III) PCMCIA port, 1
compact
>flash memory port, soundblaster compatible audio with mic & speaker, and a
>2400 baud internal modem.
>
>

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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Tomas Moberg wrote:

> I am interested to hear about other peoples experience with networking
> with the hp200lx.

Okay.  :)

> Is there any network tools for the hp if You have a working PCMCIA
> network card.
> A network diagnostic tool, like a sniffer for dos.

Definitely.  I'm not sure if there's a freeware or shareware package, but
Lanwatch 4.0 works VERY well on the 200LX.  It has powerful filters (so
you can see only packets from a certain machine, or of a certain type, or
... etc.) and it can capture and view packet logs in great detail.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:51:41 -0800
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 >> SUBJECT: What programs do I need to view Internet web pages, and
 >> download POP3 e-mail?
 >
 >If you can settle for e-mail there are several options.
 >Goin' Postal is probably the easiest to set up, LXTCP is
 >a very nice free package, and NetTamer is yet another option.

WWW/LX Plus is _also_ email capable, not just Web browsing
- thus would be nice to be included as an email option!

 >If you want web browsing, I think WWW/LX is your only choice.
 >>From what I hear it's an excellent package.  It does run
 >about $90, I think.

FYI, NetTamer is _also_ capable of Web browsing, thus would
be nice to include it in the web browsing option.

I just thought it would be more fair to tell it all,
including a small plug for my competition ... What is
fair is fair...

Thank you.

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:11 -0500
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I realize that when you make a hand held operating system, certain
functionality has to be removed for the sake of space savings, but some of
the things missing from WinCE defy understanding, at least in my simple
mind. It appears that the Redmondians removed anything that will tell you
how much storage space you have left for data.  I had to download a
shareware utility to tell me the space left on my compact flash card.  They
could have left out some of the other BS included in WinCE and provided a
basic function like telling you how much storage space you have used or have
remaining.  This is just one more reason I won't give up my 200lx!!

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Danny;

Does it run the connectivity pack?

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I thought the only real reason anyone needed to dislike the CE machines
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----Original Message-----
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Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>Danny;
>
>Does it run the connectivity pack?

Good question. it should, but I havent used the DOS connectivity pack in
years and havent been able to find it since I received my 110.  Im currently
looking over the net for a nice small mini-graphical environment which would
run on the 110.

Oh, one interesting thing, the Personaware PIM which comes with the 110 has
a main launcher which launches different applications for the scheduler,
email, etc.  Whats interesting is that the individual applications are EXM
files!  Since IBM owns Lotus and the EXM files in the HP were created by
lotus (the format anyway) it might be the same setup.

Dan
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> WWW/LX Plus is _also_ email capable, not just Web browsing
> - thus would be nice to be included as an email option!

Avi, thanks for pointing that out.  I thought for some
reason that WWW/LX's capability was understood.  It wasn't
left off my list intentionally--it was my goof.  Sorry.


> FYI, NetTamer is _also_ capable of Web browsing, thus would
> be nice to include it in the web browsing option.

I'm glad to know this.  I tried to make it clear that my
experience with NetTamer was nil, and that my comments
should be taken in that light, but it may well not have
come through clearly.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:35:01 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" 
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Subject:      Re: Hack idea : CF _inside_ the LX ??

> >My 700LX has only one PCMCIA port. Where do you believe the other one to
> >be located?
>
>
> :-) Have a look inside! You'll find the DTP-2 card lurking there...
>
> Franklin
>

So the 700lx must use both hornet chip pcmcia slots, one is just
totally internal. Is the internal dtp-2 card a standard type II size
card or is it shorter than normal? Might be nice to pick up a 700lx
and use a big flash card in the internal slot.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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              Alain 
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Subject:      Re: Arachne browser...
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I think it need a 386,
but I'm not sure.
Alain

> Has anyone tried running the DOS based browser 'Arachne' on the LX?  Any
> luck?
> I understand it has an email and FTP client as well.
>
> Steve

Al
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Subject:      Re: ODBC Driver for Palmtop Applications
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Donald Collins  writes:
> Any programmers out there have any experience with ODBC?  I think it
> would be an interesting discussion to say the least.

This is something for which the LXTCP HP200LX TCP/IP Devlepment Kit
(see my web page) is ideally suited.  Someone just has to write an
ODBC client that talks TCP/IP to the ODBC server.

Can someone point me to the ODBC specs ?

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              "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
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From:         "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
Subject:      Re: Network tools for hp200lx.
Comments: To: David Sargeant 

I've always been curious about this one too.

I don't have a LAN card for my LX, or anything ÝÝI do have a Megahertz,
Ethernet card for my laptop (10-BaseT, w/ an XJACK for LAN cabling), will
this work?¨¨

How do I go about doing this?

I'd LOVE to tie directly into my LAN at work and check my email ÝÝprob.
won't work, because the work-based email is on an MS Exchange Server¨¨,
cruise the net or at least "see the network" trace the timings & routes of
packets as they speed from Internet point to point AND, most importantly, be
able to show "tech-support" folks why some of their answers AREN'T and help
"redirect them" to a functional fix for problems we've had in the past!

We currently have assigned IP addresses but will soon move to a system
(DHCP, I think) that'll assign a different IP address w/ each login.  Also,
I'd need a program that let me specify gateway, DNS, etc.  We have a setting
that has us "bind" as a "Client for Microsoft Networks".  Can all this be
done in DOS?

What're the basics?  Software, hardware, etc? And, can you do it w/o
external power for any length of time?  It'd be great to be anywhere in the
building and quickly tap into a LAN port Ýwe call 'em "tombstones" here ...
have no idea if that is an industry convention or because we're in Texas¨.

TIA for any help - I'd love to get this one going....

--tim


CPT Tim Raymond
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:10:32 -0800
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You might want to read the Networking FAQ I have up at
http://www.hplx.net .  It will answer a lot of your questions (I hope )
.  I'm also going to be posting the article in the January/February 1997
issue of the Palmtop Paper on networking with the Accton card to my web
site, which should help.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:54:49 +1030
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Hal Goldstein writes:
> We hope to finalize the 1999 HP PALMTOP PAPER CD Infobase the first week
> of November. Jorgen and others are working very hard to complete an HTML
> version of the tech ref manual readable on the palmtop via HV.
>
> If there is source code that would be good to add the \ONDISK\PAL
> subdirectory (or elsewhere on the CD), now is the time to decide.

This is a great idea.

> Someone needs to be "in charge" gathering the source code and telling me
> how you want it structured on the CD.
>
> I know it is short notice, but it sounds like it would be worth the
> effort.  Rod, or someone else would you be willing to take the lead?

Sorry, but I won't have time for something like this until January.

My suggestion would be for authors to include the source code in their
distribution zip files, and then upload the zip file to SUPER, then
tell you about it (and then you can pick it up from SUPER).  This is
what I've done with ExmBatch.

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              "Richard Ando, Jr." 
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Subject:      Re: Used hp200lx?
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What is eBay?

I am interested in Used 200LXs

        Richard

----------
> I recently saw several 200LX's trading on eBay for
> $175.00.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> >Hi James,
> >I have a 6MB HP200LX for sale for $400 if you're in California.
> >
> >
> >James R. Hall wrote:
> >>
> >> how much is a 4mb hp200lx going for now?
> >> (single speed)
> >> I was thinking about getting one for reading txt files and playing =
a tiny
> >> game or two during the day (when I'm away from my beloved p2 233 :P)
> >> I have this neat little text-graphics game, kinda like a star-trek =
game
> >> clone that I'm looking for on one of my cd's, when I find it I'll =
send it
> to
> >> anyone who wants it... It was quite addicting when I played it on =
my old
> 486
> >> desktop.
> >>
> >>      -James, N9XLC
> >>      -jrhall@globalsite.net
> >>      -certified NERD
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Subject:      Re: ODBC Driver for Palmtop Applications
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Rod Whitby  wrote:
> This is something for which the LXTCP HP200LX TCP/IP Devlepment Kit
> (see my web page) is ideally suited.  Someone just has to write an
> ODBC client that talks TCP/IP to the ODBC server.

It's been a while since I looked at ODBC, but at that time I had the
impression that it was more aimed at the interface between (Windows)
applications that wanted database connectivity and "ODBC driver" DLLs
that provided such connectivity.  How those driver DLLs talked to
their respective databases was their own problem and I didn't think it
was specified as a part of ODBC.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:10:03 -0600
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I haven't tried this due to the apparent lack of a PPP or SLIP server
program for Windows.  It's a good idea, but doing this through a serial
connection is not as well supported as doing it through an Ethernet
connection.

If I understand your request, what you need is a program that provides
PPP or SLIP support to a device connected to the serial port of a
serving PC while providing TCP/IP communications to the application
running on the PC.

If this software existed, then you could use a proxy server to "see" the
internet through the server PC.

Phil


>
>Is there realy NO ONE who have tried the direct connection with WWW/LX
>and Window$ ?
>
>Am I the only person who think that this would be great if it worked.
>
>ANY input is appreciated!!!
>
>

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You might take a look at NAT32 on the web, it's IP masquerading
router software for Win95/98/NT which works with DUN.  It claims
to handle incoming dialups at least, though that might only work
for NT.

> I haven't tried this due to the apparent lack of a PPP or SLIP server
> program for Windows.  It's a good idea, but doing this through a serial

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:23:10 -0800
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Hi all, I recently got a used Pretec 1MB SRAM card
and after checking for special drivers and such and
noting the 1MB capacity of it, reformatted it fresh.
Well that was a bad mistake, as now the card shows
as a 512K card when it is clearly marked as a 1MB
SRAM card.  I contacted Pretec and was basically
told that I was out of luck since it was not registered
to me and that the part number is not theirs.  I find
this odd as I was told it was a Pretec and after searching
the web on the part number I found several sites
discussing the Pretec 1MB SRAM card.  Hmm...
Anyways if anyone knows of any special drivers
or formatters for the Pretec 1MB SRAM card, please
let me know.  Pretec is going to be of no help at all.

Brian S
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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:41:30 -0800
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              "Whay S. Lee" 
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Subject:      (sorta) wysiwyg GEM apps (wp,publisher,graph draw,paint)

Folks:

I wrote the other day that GEM seems to work well on the LX. Here are
a few more things I gathered since then from playing around with
the GEM apps. It prints on my HP inkjet just fine.
You can find some new screen shots at web.mit.edu/~wslee/MOSAIC
It is available free for downloading. My entire setup, including
all the apps below, takes 3.8M of disk space, but I haven't
trimmed the sample doc/image files yet. I think it would end up
at about 3M after trimming.

1. Word Plus. Fairly sophisticated, multi-windowed,
   sorta-WYSIWYG word processor

     - Printer Controls
          - bold, underlined, italics, superscript, subscript.
          - expanded, condensed, elite, pica.
     - Spelling:
          - user dictionary (default dictionary included)
          - check-while-you-type option
     - Graphics:
          - imports .gem and .img files (from paint, draw)
          - no wrap-around. but sorta WYSIWYG.
          - I think GEM<->PCX converters can be found on simtel.
     - Misc:
          - hyphenation, word-wrap, justification (center/right)
          - numbered footnotes. header/footer(left/right/center).
          - page numbering. auto-paginate. symbol character chart.
          - appears to have msword,wordperfect,wordstar
            converters. I haven't figured out how to use them though.

2. Publisher. Pretty full-featured, multipage WYSIWYG desktop
publisher.

     - style sheets, paragraph styles.
     - sizable/movable text/graphic frames.
     - imports text, graphs. builtin drawing tools.

3. Draw - the usual stuff.

     - vector/object based drawings. box, circle, line, text etc.
     - glue/unglue objects. modify objects. Text up to 72 pts.
     - region fill patterns. dotted/solid lines. Arrows heads.

4. Paint. Pretty much everything you'd expect.

     - fill, spray, bruch, pencil, eraser, box, circle etc ..

5. DrDoodle. Simple doodle pad. supports lines and text. no save.
   might be good for picture-based "conversations" on foreign
   land 8-)

6. Graph.

     - import from .wk1, or key into table.
     - pie, bars (stacked, side-by-side), line, 3D bars (xyz)
     - USA-map-type sales-chart. (includes map editor for other
       user-defined maps) and a few others I can't name.
     - free-style draw and text touchups on graph.

7. Word Chart: A simple presentation slides/transparecies maker.

     - templates with simple borders.
     - does bullet-items. doesn't seem to do graphics though.
     - Mostly good for point-form (text) slides only.

8. Write: A simpler word processor. Supposedly descendent of
   Volkswriter.

Printer drivers available for postscript, HP laserjet, IBM
proprinter, Epson etc.  There is also a programmer's
toolkit.

whay.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:06:07 +10
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              Alain 
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From:         Alain 
Subject:      Re: (sorta) wysiwyg GEM apps (wp,publisher,graph draw,paint)
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did you fond any speadsheet?
regards
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:14:50 +10
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              Alain 
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From:         Alain 
Subject:      Re: (sorta) wysiwyg GEM apps (wp,publisher,graph draw,paint)
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and no database.

:(

Nothing is perfect.
Alain
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:11:47 +1030
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              Rod Whitby 
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From:         Rod Whitby 
Subject:      Re: Network tools for hp200lx.
Comments: cc: "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO" 
In-Reply-To:  "Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO"'s message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998
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> I'd LOVE to tie directly into my LAN at work and check my email ÝÝprob.
> won't work, because the work-based email is on an MS Exchange Server¨¨,
> cruise the net or at least "see the network" trace the timings & routes of
> packets as they speed from Internet point to point AND, most importantly, be
> able to show "tech-support" folks why some of their answers AREN'T and help
> "redirect them" to a functional fix for problems we've had in the past!
>
> We currently have assigned IP addresses but will soon move to a system
> (DHCP, I think) that'll assign a different IP address w/ each login.  Also,
> I'd need a program that let me specify gateway, DNS, etc.  We have a setting
> that has us "bind" as a "Client for Microsoft Networks".  Can all this be
> done in DOS?

Once you've used David's Networking FAQ to connect your ethernet card,
check out LXTCP on my web site.  Its a TCP/IP development kit for
HP200LX, and includes FTP, POP & NNTP clients.  Team it up with PNR
(also on my web site) and you can download mail & news to your palmtop
and read them offline.

Can MS Exchange serve a POP3 connection ?

There is also a traceroute program available which works with LXTCP.

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:06:30 -0500
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              "Souza, Mr Stephen" 
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From:         "Souza, Mr Stephen" 
Subject:      Re: Network tools for hp200lx.
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If you find the drivers for your card and get it working make sure that
the Exchange administrator has POP3 enabled. You will then be able to
send and receive e-mail from the Exchange system. It would be nice if I
could use ACCIS4.0 and a network rather than a modem to contact Cis.


Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
*mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO ÝSMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL¨
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 6:10 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Network tools for hp200lx.
>
> I've always been curious about this one too.
>
> I don't have a LAN card for my LX, or anything ÝÝI do have a
> Megahertz,
> Ethernet card for my laptop (10-BaseT, w/ an XJACK for LAN cabling),
> will
> this work?¨¨
>
> How do I go about doing this?
>
> I'd LOVE to tie directly into my LAN at work and check my email
> ÝÝprob.
> won't work, because the work-based email is on an MS Exchange
> Server¨¨,
>

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:50:58 -0500
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              "James O. Sanders, M.D." 
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Having been very dedicated to the 200LX because of its size and several
extremely useful DOS programs not likely to be translated to CE anytime
soon, I'd like to know what others have found the functionality of the DOS
emulation in WinCE.  Thanks.
J Sanders

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Date:         Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:24:27 +0800
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              Larry Yu in Geocities 
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How about this :

File remdir.bat:
cd %1
echo Y    |   del *.*
cd ..
rmdir %1

-----Original Message-----
From: R. Christopher Lott 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU 
Date: Monday, October 26, 1998 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Dos batch file example


>Well, there are two methods that come to mind.  First, no one has
>mentioned the obvious method of passing a command line argument to
>the batch file.  The original post didn't clarify whether or not
>this would be suitable or not.  For example:
>
>File remdir.bat:
>cd %1
>del *.* cd ..
>rmdir %1
>
>(You have to create the file yes.dat for this example, which contains
>a single 'Y' and a carriage return).
>
>This is a simple example, and you can pass any number of parameters
>(certainly up to 9, and there are ways to get even more).
>
>Secondly, there is a most bizzare method that I ran into a few months
>back, I believe on this very list.  It isn't easy to understand, and
>it took be several long minutes staring at the screen and experimenting
>to figure out what in h*** it was doing.  Alas, I can't dig it up right
>now, but I promise to do so tomorrow.
>
>-Chris Lott
>
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Larry Yu in Geocities wrote:

> How about this :
>
> File remdir.bat:
> cd %1
> echo Y    |   del *.*
> cd ..
> rmdir %1

The problem with solutions like this is that if you're not careful you can
by mistake erase a lot of files. If you type in a directory name that
doesn't exist when running the above batch file, it will delete all files
in the current directory. Not nice.


Cheers,

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:56:59 -0600
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Subject:      Rick's RULER

RICK, Where in the world are you?
Tried to work with your ruler. Seems like a nifty
piece of work if I kan get it to work.  A couple of
small problems: Documentation. Need more
explicit descriptive instruction.  Yor email contact
adrs would help.  seems also not every relese has
the reqd files. The current one (32) is missing the
.bmp file.  I had to break off every once in a while
and get back to it consequently everytime I do
some other little problem come up. If you post/send
me latest complete file, I'd like to look at it again.
Really does seem good and functional.

all the best,
Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Subject:      Network for HPLX, Arachne, Un*x

            Hello all,

    There is a company, which sells a 200LX, an Ethernet card and
    their DOS software as complete package for "Palmtop Protocol
    Analyzer". They're called Precision Guesswork 
    Glitch: The Silicom ethernet card they include is the one kind,
    that does NOT work with double-speed upgrade. But the SW is
    available alone: called LANwatch for DOS. Anyone using this?

    Also, someone please dig up a copy of Netware 1.x or maybe 2.x.
    I actually met a guy, who had seen a real XT server running NW1.1
    It was barely faster than...
    A 64MB, DS machine with network should be superb for this use.

    I have some early 80's IBM disks with network monitoring tools.

    The Arachne web browser indeed runs on XT machines with CGA.
    The CGA driver is beta-stage and Arachne needs a lot of conven-
    tional memory (app. 550kb if you use TCP/IP w/ modem). It is also
    dog slow. They may eventually include resident tcpip for faster
    multitask download, but that must further increase RAM hunger.
    It is more suitable for 386 w/ 4MB or more. BTW, the current 1.4x
    versions I used on 286, are rock solid, unlike previous releases.

    But I still recommend using WWW/LX if you have the money. Or Lynx
    for DOS, Bobcat, Minuet for free. These free sw are not upgraded
    any more and often fail loading fancy pages due newer HTML/HTTP.

    Unix on palmtop: Finally I start to admit, that it's a no-no.
    Those crying for a $ should get a 700LX and use shell login to a
    real big computer via GSM.
    I wonder if a company using dedicated GSM service and loan 700LX/
    2110 device for a fixed monthly fee could attract customers with
    continous mobile access to capable OS/HW. It need not to be Uni*x;
    VMS or VM/ESA on SP9000 is just right. Yes 9600bps is restrictive,
    but the newer 1800MHz will do 28.8 or what?

                            Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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> How about this :
>
> File remdir.bat:
> cd %1
> echo Y    |   del *.*
> cd ..
> rmdir %1

After running this BATch a few dozen times,
you'll learn a lot about what's going on and
get a lot of (on the) keyboard practice.

Semper mobilis,
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Where is that web page of the list of free Spectrum games?  Are they pretty
good quality? =)

            Tony

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Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: SPHiNX C--, Spectrum Emulation


>I've been using C-- for palmtop programming for more than 2 years now
(first
>on my 95lx, now on my 100 :)  Since I've only got a 1.8Mb flash, it's small
>size is a real help, and the programs it generates are really tiny.  I've
>written some libraries for C-- providing stuff similar to PAL, though
>they're not really complete.  If theres enough interest, (and with all this
>free source stuff going on), I'll put them up on the web.
>
>Off the topic a bit, I've been doing a bit of research about Sinclair ZX
>Spectrum emulators.  The Spectrum was a little computer that loaded games
>from cassette tape and plugged into a tv.  In its time it was really
>popular, so there are THOUSANDS of great games and programs availible free
>(and legally) on the internet.  Sooooo, I though why not have this as a
>source of great palmtop games...
>
>I downloaded an emulator and the games run fine, with one tiny problem....
>On my single speed :( palmtop they run at 23% of proper speed.  (my desktop
>computer runs them at up to 3500%...)   I've therefore decieded to try and
>make
>a spectrum emulator thats optimised for the palmtop so that (hopefully) it
>will at
>least run games at 100% speed on a double speed palmtop.  I've got a couple
>of months break coming up in a month, so I'll get to work then....  (It'll
>be written
>in C-- and assembler, of course Ýnone of that bloated/slow C stuff¨  :)
>
>Tim
>
>PS: does anyone know of an easy way to obtain the doable speed upgrade in
>Australia??
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Stefan Peichl 
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
>Date: Sunday, 25 October 1998 11:51
>Subject: SPHiNX C--
>
>
>To all programmers among you:
>
>Please have a look at the SPHiNX C-- compiler and consider
>switching to it. This is an outstanding incredible development
>tool for the HP palmtop. To demonstrate it's power I ported a
>fire simulation from VGA to CGA. It's on SUPERNEW as FIRE.ZIP.
>C-- (how I like this name!) is not a full ANSI C compiler. It
>has no pointers (anyhow difficult to handle) and is somehow
>closer to assembler. For someone at home with assembler and C
>it is very easy to use. And look at the code size: As handmade
>with assembler. Not a single byte too much. C-- runs perfect
>on the palmtop and comes complete with source and work bench,
>very similar to Turbo-C. You can strip it down by compressing
>the EXEs and removing the DOCs to less than 100KB and it's
>free. Look into FIRE.C-- for the download site. If we had a
>PAL library for SPHINX C--, I swear we would see extremely
>small and fast PAL applications.
>
>I always claimed: run away if you see a programming language
>with a '+' in it's name, but run as fast as you can, if you
>find 'visual' added. I should continue: stay if you find
>a '-' or two.
>
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              David Sargeant 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Feher Tamas wrote:

>     There is a company, which sells a 200LX, an Ethernet card and
>     their DOS software as complete package for "Palmtop Protocol
>     Analyzer". They're called Precision Guesswork 
>     Glitch: The Silicom ethernet card they include is the one kind,
>     that does NOT work with double-speed upgrade. But the SW is
>     available alone: called LANwatch for DOS. Anyone using this?

Yes, I have an older version (4.0) from before Precision Guesswork took it
over.  I assume their version is improved.

>     Also, someone please dig up a copy of Netware 1.x or maybe 2.x.
>     I actually met a guy, who had seen a real XT server running NW1.1
>     It was barely faster than...
>     A 64MB, DS machine with network should be superb for this use.

Now THAT would be extremely cool.  A Netware server on the palmtop!

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> The problem with solutions like this is that if you're not careful you can
> by mistake erase a lot of files. If you type in a directory name that
> doesn't exist when running the above batch file, it will delete all files
> in the current directory. Not nice.

Laust:

Good point.  The particular problem you mention can be checked for
possibly by using the IF EXIST form of the IF statement (see IF
help).   But yes, such programs *can* be dangerous.  On my palmtop,
it's often easier to delete directory tree strctures from the FILER
app, which will do so without prompting.  But plain DOS doesn't offer
this capability without resorting to the type of batch file like I
presented (as an example of simply passing arguments).

I wish now I hadn't given the remdir example, as all the discussion
has been on it and not the amazing method to read input from within
a batch file that I subsequently posted.  Still haven't tracked down
the original author, but will be back in the office Wednesday and think
I can find it there.

-Chris

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Has anyone seen this error message when starting CPACK (e.g., when
running the APP200.BAT file)?

APP200: Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH.  Please
        remove it and try again.

If so, what does it mean?

-Chris

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:10:14 -0500
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I have a registered version that I play with. I can run some DOS games
and programs. I have adjusted several programs based on gray scale
requirements. I have used Word Star 4.0 in the XTCE it runs fine and has
a reasonable response time. I have not tired to print anything from it.
I would really like to get ACCIS 4.0 to run correctly for Cis
connections. The software runs fine but will not dial the modem. It is a
problem with how ACCIS accesses the modem as tiny Term finds and uses
the modem without problem.  Some of the games run very slow but I do not
play that many on a palmtop. I have a chess program for DOS (
Chessmaster 2000) and WinCE, I probably use them more than to other
games.


Stephen Souza
Network Administrator
COMNAVSURFLANT
*TEL: (757) 836-3204
*DSN:  836-3204
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James O. Sanders, M.D. ÝSMTP:jsanders@ERIE.NET¨
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 8:51 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      CE and DOS emulation
>
> Having been very dedicated to the 200LX because of its size and
> several
> extremely useful DOS programs not likely to be translated to CE
> anytime
> soon, I'd like to know what others have found the functionality of the
> DOS
> emulation in WinCE.  Thanks.
> J Sanders
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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:45:01 -0800
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I found the MSDN site for the Platform SDK Components for Database =
Developers at

http://msdn.microsoft.com/developer/sdk/database.htm

The full SDK can be downloaded but its 14.8 MB

Here is the ODBC Component Description

ODBC 3.0 Samples (907.0 KB installed)
Open Database Connectivity (ODBC) version 3.0 is an open-standard API =
that allows applications to access heterogeneous SQL data. Using ODBC, =
applications are insulated from underlying network and database =
implementations.=20
Many new features have been added to ODBC 3.0, including a faster and =
more flexible way to bind to multiple sets of data, capability for =
better error diagnostics and the ability to process bulk operations.


There's more info to be found but I don't have a MSDN Online Membership =
yet.  Can anyone else get the info?

Don

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On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Jeff wrote:

> P.S. We need to get David a spot on Letterman, we might just have the
> next Seinfeld in our midst

Well, I struggled all weekend to figure out something Seinfeldian to say
about palmtops, but came up dry.  I blame my upcoming calculus and
discrete math tests for stressing me out.  

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The source code for my two programs Palmtop Periodic Table and MPG Tracker
are now available from my webpage if you want them.
http:\\www.hom.net\~owensam\ptidx.html  you will need to have the PAL
library if you want to see the "real" C code since the majority of my
programming calls PAL functions.

Owen



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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:29:07 +0100
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> Good point.  The particular problem you mention can be checked for
> possibly by using the IF EXIST form of the IF statement (see IF
> help).   But yes, such programs *can* be dangerous.  On my palmtop,
> it's often easier to delete directory tree strctures from the FILER
> app, which will do so without prompting.  But plain DOS doesn't offer
> this capability without resorting to the type of batch file like I
> presented (as an example of simply passing arguments).

I use a clone of the UNIX "rm" command to delete directories. It can also
recursively delete directories, which the above cannot. Of course, as "rm"
doesn't prompt you before deleting, you have to take care when using it as
well.

> I wish now I hadn't given the remdir example, as all the discussion
> has been on it and not the amazing method to read input from within
> a batch file that I subsequently posted.  Still haven't tracked down
> the original author, but will be back in the office Wednesday and think
> I can find it there.

That was a very intersting hack to get input, but it does need external
(ie not built into command.com) utilities - fc for instance (which
incidentally, isn't on the LX either). A version that would work on
_every_ DOS computer, just with command.com, would be a feat, but I've yet
to come up with anything useful. The problem, which is essentially also
what fc overcomes in the solution you posted, is terminating the user
input with ENTER instead of ¬Z.

I dunno if I'd call the batch file you posted amazing, but certainly
innovative. It shows what mesaures you have to take to overcome
Microsoft's limited shell. IMO, they should've given us a shell with a
decent set of functions instead.


Regards,

Laust

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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Tony Olsen wrote:

> Where is that web page of the list of free Spectrum games?  Are they pretty
> good quality? =)

The quality of the games varies a lot. It usually helps if you have fond
memories of playing them during the 80's ;-)

The Spectrum FAQ can be found here:
http://www.kendalls.demon.co.uk/cssfaq/index.html

and pretty much includes everything you need to know.

Nuclear ZX, the fastest emulator I've been able to run on the LX, can be
found here:

ftp://ftp.gns.getronics.nl/pub/os/sinclair/emulators/pc/dos/nuclear_zx.zip
and its homepage here:
http://www.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/zx.html
(although it appears to be down)

Source code (TP and Asm) is apparently available to those who send the
author a poem about the Spectrum. Interesting...


Cheers,

Laust

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>There's more info to be found but I don't have a MSDN Online Membership
yet.  Can anyone else get the info?

I'm pretty sure all you have to do is register with Microsoft (fill out one
of those stupid online forms asking name, spouse's name, pet's name, pet's
favorite programming language, etc.) and then you can download all the MSDN
documentation.

The address of the dumb form is

http://premium.microsoft.com/register/msdn/register.asp

Cheers,

- Joe

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Along the lines of the batch file discussion, I liked the batch file that does
rm -r.  But, to avoid the inevitable I added an IF statement to check and
make sure the directory exists first.

But, as far as I can tell, it doesn't work!  Try the following:

if exist (dir) echo hi!

Try a directory in there, nothing.  Try a file in there, works.  The modified
batch file is:

@ECHO Off
IF NOT EXIST %1 GOTO End
CD %1
ECHO Y | DEL *.*
CD ..
RMDIR %1
:End

Alas, it doesn't work.  Another baddie waiting to happen; if a file exists
that's named the directory you think you're nuking, wham, current directory is
empty.

Some immediate work in Filer's wonderful undelete will fix things, but it's
annoying when you do it to 25 files (as I have done before manually..
*Sigh*)

I'll probably write a BRexx RM clone..  :)  The author tells me that a 8086
FPU emulated binary of BRexx 2.0 should be on
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/rexx/brexx soon, if anybody is interested, keep
an eye out there.  I have 1.3, and it's great.  (Thanks Laust!)

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:23:25 -0800
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I believe you can't do IF EXIST on a directory directly, but you CAN do
this:

IF EXIST directory\nul DIR

Or whatever.  In other words, use the directory name and then NUL, since
every directory has a NUL file in it.

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>> From: Rod WhitbyÝSMTP:RWHITBY@ASC.CORP.MOT.COM¨
>>
>> I'd LOVE to tie directly into my LAN at work and check my email ÝÝprob.
>> won't work, because the work-based email is on an MS Exchange Server¨¨,

Exchange servers can be configured to provide POP and SMTP service. If your
IIS folks are unwilling to do so, then you can set up a single rule in
exchange to forward all mail to your ISP. Finally, you might look at
MAPI2SMTP at http://www.mindpower.com/mapi2smtp.shtml .

Cheers,

- Joe

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Yo!   Yes, I got the problem and don't no nuthing
about it.  However, the quickest remedy is to set
up again in anuther DIR and keep that as a back
up to overlay to yor working DIR everytime it occurs.
I haven't had the problem in a few months now.
I also have the problem that my MEMO doesn't
have enough memory to run on the desktop)
with 32MB of RAM.  Anybodies get that?
I too am curious as to why it happens tho.

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yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:05:38 EST
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> Along the lines of the batch file discussion, I liked the batch file that does
> rm -r.  But, to avoid the inevitable I added an IF statement to check and
> make sure the directory exists first.
>
> But, as far as I can tell, it doesn't work!  Try the following:
>
> if exist (dir) echo hi!
>
> Try a directory in there, nothing.  Try a file in there, works.  The modified
> batch file is:
>
> @ECHO Off
> IF NOT EXIST %1 GOTO End
> CD %1
> ECHO Y | DEL *.*
> CD ..
> RMDIR %1
> :End
>
> Alas, it doesn't work.  Another baddie waiting to happen; if a file exists
> that's named the directory you think you're nuking, wham, current directory is
> empty.
>

That is actually a very limited rm -r since it won't handle nested
subdirectories. Why don't you just find a nice litte rm executable,
given the cluster allocation dos uses it won't take up any more space
unless it is really big.

Pete

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Date:         Tue, 27 Oct 1998 23:10:12 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Walter Francis wrote:

> Along the lines of the batch file discussion, I liked the batch file that does
> rm -r.  But, to avoid the inevitable I added an IF statement to check and
> make sure the directory exists first.

Actually, it isn't "rm -r", which recursively deletes sub-directories.

> Try a directory in there, nothing.  Try a file in there, works.  The modified
> batch file is:
>
> @ECHO Off
> IF NOT EXIST %1 GOTO End
> CD %1
> ECHO Y | DEL *.*
> CD ..
> RMDIR %1
> :End
>
> Alas, it doesn't work.  Another baddie waiting to happen; if a file exists
> that's named the directory you think you're nuking, wham, current directory is
> empty.

Hmm. What about this (untested!)?

---snip---

@echo off
if not exist %1\*.* goto End
echo y | del %1\*.*

:End
rmdir %1

---snip---

This will check to see if the directory exists and contains some files
before deleting. If the directory exists, but doesn't contain any files,
it will remove the directory (rmdir is always executed). As a bonus, if
you try to run it on a non-existant directory, it will give an
error-message (rmdirs error), but no damage done.

> Some immediate work in Filer's wonderful undelete will fix things, but it's
> annoying when you do it to 25 files (as I have done before manually..
> *Sigh*)

Filer has undelete? perhaps I should've read the 200LX manuals after
all...

> I'll probably write a BRexx RM clone..  :)  The author tells me that a 8086
> FPU emulated binary of BRexx 2.0 should be on
> ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/rexx/brexx soon, if anybody is interested, keep
> an eye out there.  I have 1.3, and it's great.  (Thanks Laust!)

BRexx v2.0 appears to be a great improvement on v1.3, both as far as speed
goes, but I also think it has more commands is more complete than v1.3?

I still prefer Perl, though!


Cheers,

Laust

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Gidday Laust & Walter et al,

> > @ECHO Off
> > IF NOT EXIST %1 GOTO End
> > CD %1
> > ECHO Y | DEL *.*
> > CD ..
> > RMDIR %1
> > :End

How can you check to see if there was an argument given? ie:
        if %=="" echo I was looking for an argument, buddy!
But that doesn't work!

It's not necessary for safety, but it would be nice to be able to handle
such user errors gracefully.


> Filer has undelete?
The lx is bigger on the inside, you know...

> I still prefer Perl, though!
BTW Laust, did you find a Perl 5 for the lx?


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Subject:      Re: IF NOT EXIST doesn't work for directories?y

> How can you check to see if there was an argument given? ie:
>         if %=="" echo I was looking for an argument, buddy!
> But that doesn't work!
>
> It's not necessary for safety, but it would be nice to be able to handle
> such user errors gracefully.
>
>

Use:

IF "%1" == "" Echo Oops

You can actually use most characters around the %1 as long as they
don't have any special meaning. Sometimes you see:

IF %1. == . Echo Oops

Basically what you are looking for is something that will be equal on
both sides when the %1 (or whatever) is GONE, that is the effect when
%1 is not assigned. So in both examples above if you REMOVE the %1
you see you end up with a true statement, in the first case "" == ""
and in the second case . == . works both ways.

Pete


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              "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Hello, all.

Was at a software outlet store todayand they had lots of dos software for
sale.  Just wondering what versions of the below names software people are
using.....

I got a copy of quicken 7.0 for dos but noone had seen a version 8.0.  for
5 bucks, you can't go wrong anyway!

Here is my list...

1.  quicken (dos 7.0 work pretty well?)
2.  WP.  I saw version 4.0 and 5.0 for dos complete with manuals for 25
3.  norton utilities.  there are so many I can't keep them strait.

mucho,

dave

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> Yo!   Yes, I got the problem and don't no nuthing
> about it.  However, the quickest remedy is to set
> up again in anuther DIR and keep that as a back
> up to overlay to yor working DIR everytime it occurs.
> I haven't had the problem in a few months now.

What exactly did you do to fix this?  I'm getting it on a
brand-new installation.  What is interrupt 7e and 7f used
for?  Nothing related to the COM ports?

-Chris

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Subject:      Re: CPACK Error Message

Don't no wat the error (msgs) is.  Its happened on
both my desktops PCs at one time or another and
has stopped for several mths now.

As I said: the quickest remedy is to set up from scratch
again in anuther DIR and keep that as a back up to
overlay to yor working DIR everytime it occurs.

I also have the problem that my MEMO doesn't
have enough memory to run on the desktop)
with 32MB of RAM.  Anybodies get that?
I too am curious as to why it happens tho.

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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:


> > Filer has undelete?
> The lx is bigger on the inside, you know...

True, but I rarely venture inside the System Manager, except to use
Jorgen's excellent HPAlarm clock and the database. For DOS I either use
command line (yeah!) for file management or the Volkov Commander, a Norton
Commander clone availiable from SUPER (and other places).

> > I still prefer Perl, though!
> BTW Laust, did you find a Perl 5 for the lx?

I haven't really looked, but I'd be very surprised if it existed. Memory
would probably be a problem, sadly. Still, version 4 isn't too bad, I
rarely use Perl5 specific functions anyway.


Cheers,

Laust

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If you look in the Windows Control panel, you will find an ODBC driver =
for text files (*.txt, *.csv) as part of ODBCJT32.DLL provided by =
Microsoft.  I would think if Microsoft could provide a driver for text =
files, we could develop a driver for the palmtop file formats (*.gdb, =
*.pdb, *.adb, *.ndb).

Maybe a group of us could join a good C++ mailing list and ask the right =
people.  Anyone know of a good C++ mailing list?

Don.

>>
-----Original Message-----
From:   Frank McConnell ÝSMTP:fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG¨
Sent:   Monday, October 26, 1998 4:14 PM
Subject:        Re: ODBC Driver for Palmtop Applications

It's been a while since I looked at ODBC, but at that time I had the
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applications that wanted database connectivity and "ODBC driver" DLLs
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Larry Yu wrote:

> Interesting!
>
> You want to delete *.* ALL files but you are afraid to delete them by
> mistake?

No, I'm afraid to delete the wrong files by mistake. The idea was to
completely remove a directory and to do that you first have to delete all
the files in it (otherwise "rmdir" will fail). However if you use the
following method (which the batch file in question did), you have to be
careful:

cd 
del *.*
cd ..
rmdir 

because if the directory does not exist, you will delete all the files _in
the directory you executed the command from_, not the one you wanted to.
That was what I was trying to avoid.

> I would suggest you to use Norton Commander or XT Gold to select files for
> deletion.

I do, sometimes.


Cheers,

Laust

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              "Blah...Just Blah.." 
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              Mr Stephen on Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 08:06:30AM -0500
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If accis4.0 uses the Int14h for com handling, then you can use a program
like rlfossil or tcpport (the latter from wattcp's app.zip) under a packet
driver.  i used to use rlfossil for setting up BBSs under desqview, it
emulates up to 8 serial ports through a packet driver.

--francois

On Tue, Oct 27, 1998 at 08:06:30AM -0500, Souza, Mr Stephen wrote:
> If you find the drivers for your card and get it working make sure that
> the Exchange administrator has POP3 enabled. You will then be able to
> send and receive e-mail from the Exchange system. It would be nice if I
> could use ACCIS4.0 and a network rather than a modem to contact Cis.
>
>
> Stephen Souza
> Network Administrator
> COMNAVSURFLANT
> *TEL: (757) 836-3204
> *DSN:  836-3204
> *mailto:ssouza@cnsl.spear.navy.mil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO ÝSMTP:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL¨
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 6:10 PM
> > To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> > Subject:      Re: Network tools for hp200lx.
> >
> > I've always been curious about this one too.
> >
> > I don't have a LAN card for my LX, or anything ÝÝI do have a
> > Megahertz,
> > Ethernet card for my laptop (10-BaseT, w/ an XJACK for LAN cabling),
> > will
> > this work?¨¨
> >
> > How do I go about doing this?
> >
> > I'd LOVE to tie directly into my LAN at work and check my email
> > ÝÝprob.
> > won't work, because the work-based email is on an MS Exchange
> > Server¨¨,
> >
>
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I know people on this mailing list are often looking for a good deal. I =
have one high capacity 128mb ATA Type II MagicRam Flash Card (2 months =
old) which I am looking to sell since I recently acquired a 220mb card. =
The 128mb card comes with a lifetime warranty through MagicRam and a =
toll free number which you can call for support/questions on it =
(800-272-6242). It is ATA certified through Microsoft and is 100% =
compatible with all handheld PC's, laptops and digital cameras that have =
a PCMCIA Type II slot. It has the same speed as Sandisk cards and lower =
power consumption than Simple cards.
=20
Anyways, I'm looking to get $525 for it. First come first serve. Email =
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I know people on this mailing list =
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MagicRam=20
Flash Card (2 months old) which I am looking to sell since I recently =
acquired a=20
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MagicRam and a=20
toll free number which you can call for support/questions on it =
(800-272-6242).=20
It is ATA certified through Microsoft and is 100% compatible with all =
handheld=20
PC's, laptops and digital cameras that have a PCMCIA Type II slot. It =
has the=20
same speed as Sandisk cards and lower power consumption than Simple=20
cards.


 



 


Thanks,


 


Gary


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The idea was to completely remove a directory
and to do that you first have to delete all the
files in it (otherwise "rmdir" will fail).   Yu wanna
DELete the hole DIRectory???  Use DELTREE.
Try it, you'll like it............ :)    ...and yu don't gotta
del da files first.   Trust me.

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I trusted you, but there is no Deltree in HP200 version of DOS.

Mikhail


> The idea was to completely remove a directory
> and to do that you first have to delete all the
> files in it (otherwise "rmdir" will fail).   Yu wanna
> DELete the hole DIRectory???  Use DELTREE.
> Try it, you'll like it............ :)    ...and yu don't gotta
> del da files first.   Trust me.
>
> Semper mobilis,
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Hey Chris;
How ya cuming along?  Come ta think of it,
I had the problem on a new installation too.
A brand new celeron 266/300 thing.  But now
its ok except that I still can't do memos.

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Mihale;
"I trusted you, but there is no Deltree in
HP200 version of DOS."

Course not, DELTREE is a DOS 6.2 util.
I assumed (yu know what that's about) that
everybody's got one of dem, and y shlepp it
over to the LX and vararoommm.

Sorry 'bout that, I'll take the blaim if no one else will.

Semper mobilis,
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200lx is my only computer, I schlepp IT. And, I prefer the control of
Filer to delete directories. That last look - what's inside..., and
undelete feature. I've rescued some important things that I had
forgotten were in redundant directories.

Mikhail


> everybody's got one of dem, and y shlepp it
> over to the LX and vararoommm.

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of Turbo C V 2.0
TIA
Tony Guzwewicz

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Donald Collins  wrote:
> If you look in the Windows Control panel, you will find an ODBC
> driver for text files (*.txt, *.csv) as part of ODBCJT32.DLL
> provided by Microsoft.  I would think if Microsoft could provide a
> driver for text files, we could develop a driver for the palmtop
> file formats (*.gdb, *.pdb, *.adb, *.ndb).

I think it's possible too, at least for getting at the data (I'm not
sure about getting at subsets and stuff like that), but I don't
know/remember enough about it to be sure and am too occupied with
other code-wrangling to do the research or the work.

It still leaves you with the problem of getting the palmtop databases
to where your GDB-ODBC driver would be able to access them.

Well, there's always good old file access: copy the GDB files over to
the PC where you have the GDB-ODBC driver.  "Copy" could mean
serial-port file transfer or flash-card sneakernet such that you
effectively copy or move the GDB files to the PC.  Or you could use a
redirector like MS-DOS INTERLNK/INTERSVR to make the palmtop's
filesystems appear on your PC, though I'm not sure what there is that
works like this under Win95 or WinNT (where file system redirectors
are a bit more involved).

Or maybe you could do something like a redirector between the GDB-ODBC
driver and the palmtop, where the GDB-ODBC driver opens a serial port on
the PC and talks as a client to a server running on the palmtop.  Hmm.

This is interesting, because what you end up with this way is this
handheld widget (the LX) that's got your data and lets you do stuff
with it out in the field, and when you get near a desk-bound station
that's got more powerful ODBC-capable tools and a bigger keyboard and
screen, you can plug the LX in and do stuff with it there (maybe more
stuff or bigger stuff, or maybe just more comfortably).

...

All that said, I have to wonder why do this for GDB databases.
They've got a hard limit of something like 5000 records, and each
filled in note field counts against that total too.  Unfortunately I
have some larger-and-growing data sets that I keep on the palmtop, for
those I am moving away from GDB and using xBase-ish things (Alpha Four
and FoxBase), and those are the things I could most stand to get at
from the desktop.

-Frank McConnell

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04h39m24s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:30:38 +1100,  wrote:

> How can you check to see if there was an argument given? ie:
>         if %=="" echo I was looking for an argument, buddy!
> But that doesn't work!

Aha, but if %1 is NUL then you can't test for it like this.  But, try wrapping
the %1 with "%1".  So then ""==""  :)

> It's not necessary for safety, but it would be nice to be able to handle
> such user errors gracefully.

Error trapping is necessary for distributed stuff, but I don't always do it
for my personal stuff.  Although, if it's important I do.

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> How can you check to see if there was an argument given? ie:
>         if %=="" echo I was looking for an argument, buddy!
> But that doesn't work!
>


Try this:

@echo off
if "%1"=="" goto redo
if "%1"=="A" goto acopy

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I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as software is
related? I realize that the fax software included on the ThinFax cards
probably works the best, but this isn't an option for me, since I sold my
ThinFax modem. Can anyone comment or suggest some of the other available fax
software that runs well on the LX?

73 Jeff


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> I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as =
software
> related? I realize that the fax software included on the ThinFax cards
> probably works the best, but this isn't an option for me, since I sold =
my
> ThinFax modem. Can anyone comment or suggest some of the other available=
 f
> software that runs well on the LX?
>

I like qfax (Quickstar Fax). Lots of features, good interface. Occasionall=
y
fails during modem training with some fax machines.

There's also bfax. Never used it but theres a GUI front end you can get =
of
the super site. I think qfax is on there too.

Darren.

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If you want to run an EXM on your desktop, you have to rename
it to EXE and change the first to bytes in the EXE file from
'DL' to 'MZ'. Most programs crash immediately because they use
interrupts setup by SysMgr (INT 5F, INT 7E, INT 7F). But if
you load TKERNEL from the SDK and INT5F from Harry Konstas, you
may have luck and a running EXM on the desktop. At least you
should be able to debug an EXM that way.

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Sorry to ask a non-topic question.

I seem to remember that someone some time ago gave a web-address for SKY
television programs?

Jorgen
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Hi Jeff, Darren & All:

06h04m38s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Darren Frick wrote:

> > I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as
> > software related?...
>
> I like qfax (Quickstar Fax). Lots of features, good interface.
> Occasionally fails during modem training with some fax machines.
>
> There's also bfax. Never used it but theres a GUI front end you can get
> of the super site. I think qfax is on there too.

Darren, do you use an internal or external MODEM? I have never gotten
QFax to work w/ PCMCIA MODEM, but you and QMan(among others ?) have had
success. I think I remember that all success has been w/ external
MODEMS.

I switched from MiniFAX to BGFax when I switched MODEMS. With Jorgen's
FAXGUI, it is great FAX software....allows inclusion of PCX files in the
FAX, and multiple font sizes if you want to get fancy.

There is also Delrina's DOSFAX lite that ships w/ some MODEMS. I tried
it on a desktop a long time ago, but never tried it on an LX. Someone
had success with the WinFAX version so I assume the DOS version would
work as well. Let me know if you want to try it and I'll see if I can
dig up a copy.


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I have installed in my 200LX the following applications (available in
http://www.palmtop.net/super.html, of course):
- Smmx
- ExKey, MoreEXM (required by Smmx)

I quite like Smmx: it has the same interface as the built-in More
application, and additionally:
- Sub folders: an icon can be used to go into a new More page
- Icons: an arbitrary ICN file name may be supplied, it does not have to
be the same path as the executable
- MoreEXM: updates moreexm.ini automatically
- File associations: assign an Icon to a PDB file and Phone Book is
automatically opened with that file
- Wild cards: a popup appears to select a file, and then the associated
application is launched (for different Phone Book files, for example)

Unfortunately I am experiencing some lock-ups when I press an
application launch key in Smmx (for example Ctrl-123 to launch the DOS
prompt). These lock-ups are not deterministic (it does not happen
allways, and not with the same keys), but they are frequent, and the
solution is a Ctrl-Alt-Del, or even a Ctrl-Shift-On.

Did any of you have any of these problems, or maybe a solution?

The obvious solution of not using Smmx is not one I like...

Thanks,
Paulo

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** Proprietary **

Upgrade Problems

Last year, a friend of mine carried out an upgrade from Girlfriend 1.0 to =
Wife 1.0. He found out that Wife 1.0 requires an enourmous amount of =
memory and leaves precious few System Resources available.

In addition, he noted that the application calls Child-Processes which =
will, of course, place a further strain on the few remaining System =
Resources. None of these phenomena are mentioned in the product-literature =
or the user manual, although several other users had warned him that these =
side-effects were to be expected from an application of this nature.
Not only does Wife 1.0 install itself in the boot process where it can =
monitor all system activities, but it also prevents other applications =
(e.g. Football 3.0, Boys-Night-Out 2.5...) from running, although these =
all ran perfectly before the upgrade.

Wife 1.0 has no installation options available; undesired plug-ins such as =
Mother-In-Law 4.3 and Family (Beta) are installed without question (and no =
possibility of deleting at a later date).

A further "Feature" of this upgrade is a noticeable daily performance =
degradation.=20

He would wish to see the following improvements in the next version of =
Wife:

                =B7     A "Never remind me again (don't nag)" button
=B7     Minimize button
=B7     An uninstall option, which would allow a complete de-installation =
without any loss of cache or other system resources.
=B7     A network-driver option to allow multitasking, in order to get =
more from the available hardware resources

Other users have decided to avoid these hassles and stick with Girlfriend =
2.0. There are, however, other problems concerning this strategy:
First of all, Girlfriend 2.0 cannot simply be installed over an existing =
1.0 version - Girlfriend 1.0 must first be completely removed. Some users =
report that this is a well known bug, which must be taken into account. It =
appears that the two versions of Girlfriend cause problems with concurrent =
use of the I/O ports. It should be expected that such a basic error be =
corrected by now.
There is, however, worse to come: The de-installation of Girlfriend 1.0 is =
a very tricky process! It is almost impossible to de-install without =
leaving unwanted traces of the application in the system.=20
A further problem is that all versions of Girlfriend display an annoying =
message window in apparently random intervals, proclaiming the benefits of =
an upgrade to Wife x.x!

Error Warning

Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug: any attempt to install Mistress 1.1 =
without first completely removing Wife 1.0 results in all Money files =
being deleted before Wife 1.0 deletes itself.
As a result, Mistress 1.1 will not install due to a lack of system =
resources.

Work-around

In order to circumvent the above-mentioned bug, install Mistress 1.1 on a =
separate system and ensure that no file transfers (e.g. via Laplink) are =
carried out between the two systems under any circumstances.  Also be =
aware that various shareware products carry a virus which can infect Wife =
x.x.
Another possibility would be to run Mistress by logging in as "anonymous" =
on UseNet. The virus problem is also present here, so ensure that you take =
the correct precautions before embarking on such a project.

Conclusion

The upgrade presents a very questionable benefit to the user, and should =
only be carried out with extreme caution. Immense system resources must be =
available.



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There is a very simple solution, if you know Perl 5. There is a Perl 5
module to read/write GDB database files, and there are GDB modules for
standard database interfaces and ODBC. This means that a simple Perl
script can read a GDB database and create an Acess database.

I have never used the ODBC drivers for Perl, but I was able to change
some fields of my Phone database with a very simple perl script. I may
post the code, if there is interest.

Paulo


Donald Collins wrote:
>
> I have seen much discussion on synchronizing and transferring palmtop data to and from Windows desktop applications.  It just occurred to me that an ODBC driver for the Palmtop file formats could be a perfect solution.  I don't know much about the specifics in creating the driver, but I have used ODBC to exchange data between Windows desktop applications. (e.g. Linking Dbase IV table to a MS Access Database).  So I don't know if it is even possible.
>
> If it is possible then it would be very easy to transfer data to and from the palmtop using almost all Microsoft products or any ODBC aware application.  It would not be necessary to create a new application each time a new PIM is introduced to the market (i.e. Schedule+, Outlook, Act!), just the interface to link the ODBC tables to the PIM.
>
> It might even be possible to use Windows 95/98 Briefcase to do the synchronizing.  If your not familiar with the Briefcase, it is possible to use it to synchronize two (linked) MS Access databases.  If both databases have changed, the differing records are passed and both databases are updated.
>
> Any programmers out there have any experience with ODBC?  I think it would be an interesting discussion to say the least.
>
> Don.
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > > I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as
> > > software related?...
> >
> > I like qfax (Quickstar Fax). Lots of features, good interface.
> > Occasionally fails during modem training with some fax machines.
>
> Darren, do you use an internal or external MODEM? I have never gotten
> QFax to work w/ PCMCIA MODEM, but you and QMan(among others ?) have had
> success. I think I remember that all success has been w/ external
> MODEMS.

I've used QFax successfully with a Megahertz 9600 PCMCIA modem
for some time now.  I don't use it often, but it is small and
fast and usually works well.  I've also observed the training
problem sporadically.  QFax allows for inserting pcx files
into faxes--I use my company logo as a header and add a pcx
of my signature at the end.  QFax also supports two font sizes.

Two things I *don't* like about QFax: 1) after considerable
effort I've given up trying to use it with my XJ2144 modem;
and 2) getting help from the author is very difficult--he
rarely responds to e-mail.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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> I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as software is
> related? I realize that the fax software included on the ThinFax cards
> probably works the best, but this isn't an option for me, since I sold my
> ThinFax modem. Can anyone comment or suggest some of the other available fax
> software that runs well on the LX?

Jeff:

I use ACEFAX, which came with my Modem (Megahertz XJ1144) which I bought
through ACE.  Don't know how one can get this software these days.
Seems like there was some discussion in the past about who owns rights to
the old ACE programs.  Perhaps someone more knowledgable will pipe up...

-Chris


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> Hey Chris;
> How ya cuming along?  Come ta think of it,
> I had the problem on a new installation too.
> A brand new celeron 266/300 thing.  But now
> its ok except that I still can't do memos.

Not at all.  The thing won't even start up at all.  I get the
reported error message, and it returns to the DOS prompt.  Upon
examining the batch file, I see where it's tripping up.  It is
apparently from the program "un200.exe", which is returning an
error level 12, which then generates the error message I reported.
Don't see how you got around it to get other stuff running.

BTW, this is also on a brand new machine - windows 98.  So far,
I haven't had any troubles getting DOS programs or my old Windows
programs to run.  In fact, the DOS programs seem to run better on
98 than they did on 95!

-Chris

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:30:47 -0500
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              Al Kind 
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Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:12:52 -0500 (EST)

45m11s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Darren Frick wrote:
> >
> > > > I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as
> > > > software related?...
> > >
> > > I like qfax (Quickstar Fax). Lots of features, good interface.
> > > Occasionally fails during modem training with some fax machines.
> >
> > Darren, do you use an internal or external MODEM? I have never gotten
> > QFax to work w/ PCMCIA MODEM...
>
> I've used QFax successfully with a Megahertz 9600 PCMCIA modem
> for some time now...

Which version are you running?


Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:47:28 -0600
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Ted Heise wrote:
> >
> > I've used QFax successfully with a Megahertz 9600 PCMCIA modem
> > for some time now...
>
> Which version are you running?

It's 1.10.

Ted        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:55:12 -0600
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The thing won't even start up at all.  I get the reported
error message, and it returns to the DOS prompt.  Upon
examining the batch file, I see where it's tripping up.  It is
apparently from the program "un200.exe", which is returning
an error level 12, which then generates the error message

As I said, reinstall the whole thing or take DIR fron old (working)
machine and DEL all the *.?db files and you'll have the core pgms
that works, copy the working pgms to new DIR.  You may need
two BATch files. I don't know why.  One BAT goes in your path\
UTILS dir and the other BAT goes in the (curr) DIR of where your
CPAK files are with the appropiate changes in path pointers.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Did DELTREE even come out in DOS 5.x ?

I know that DOS 6.xx has it.

Jon

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> From:         Mikhail EpelbaumÝSMTP:mikhailslists@ATTCANADA.NET¨
> Reply To:     HPLX Mailing List;Mikhail Epelbaum
> Sent:         Tuesday, October 27, 1998 8:14 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
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>
> I trusted you, but there is no Deltree in HP200 version of DOS.
>
> Mikhail
>
>
> > The idea was to completely remove a directory
> > and to do that you first have to delete all the
> > files in it (otherwise "rmdir" will fail).   Yu wanna
> > DELete the hole DIRectory???  Use DELTREE.
> > Try it, you'll like it............ :)    ...and yu don't gotta
> > del da files first.   Trust me.
> >
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Hi Ted & All:

29m25s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Ted Heise wrote:
> > >
> > > I've used QFax successfully with a Megahertz 9600 PCMCIA modem
> > > for some time now...
> >
> > Which version are you running?
>
> It's 1.10.
>

     I wonder if the problem is speed? Is anyone using QFAX-HPFAX at
14,400? Is it possible to force a MODEM to FAX at 9600 with an INIT
var?

Cheers,


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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Al Kind wrote:

>      I wonder if the problem is speed? Is anyone using QFAX-HPFAX at
> 14,400? Is it possible to force a MODEM to FAX at 9600 with an INIT
> var?

Anthony Mai, the author, told me he believed this was the
problem.  I tried forcing my XJ2144 (14.4) modem to 9600
with the initialization string, but QFax seems to override
the initialization.  The impression I got from Anthony was
that it would take a modification ot the program to correct
the problem.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Not that I know of, maybe V6.0
but it works on my LX w/o mods.
Untouched by human meat hooks.

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Hi there,

I have an Accton EN2216-1 LAN card and I have downloaded the point
enabler & packet driver- OP2216.EXE & PD2212.COM.

But that is how far I can come- I don't understand what I need/should do
now??? This despite of 200LX LAN faq & the article in The HP Palmtop =
Paper-
"Connecting Your Palmtop to a LAN with the Ethernet Card EN2212/2216 from
Accton" by Nori.

I simply don't understand since the article mentioned only NetWare client
and Win95 client. I would like to connect to a NT 4.0 domain and establish
a TCP/IP connection for e-mail & web browsing. I also would like to map
some network drives for backup of my data.

I would like to be able to configure following:

1. User Name
2. Password
3. Domain
4. Server assigned IP address
5. Primary & secondary DNS
6. Primary & secondary WINS

I would highly appreciate if anyone could tell me what I need and where
I find it- in order to get a 200LX to a NT 4.0 Domain LAN connection.

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:30:12 -0800
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I've just gotten an NT system at work and my old Interlnk/Intersvr
combination doesn't seem to work (but then I'm not sure still how NT works
compared to DOS/Win95).

I used to load Interlnk on the desktop during boot using config.sys (and
run Intersvr on the LX as a non-TSR), but this doesn't seem to work under
NT.

Does anyone have a good connection method for 200LX to and NT system?

- I prefer to map drives (ala Laplink and Interlnk)
- I prefer not to load any TSR's on the LX in order to save RAM space.
- Interlnk/Intersvr is preferred, but I'll consider anything that works and
is available.
- I've used NT-Hyperterminal and Datacomm so far to move files on the NT
system

Thanks. I looked in the FAQ (maybe not hard enough) but didn't see any
references to NT connectivity.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:48:11 -0600
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On 10-28 08:19am, the following was written:

>      I wonder if the problem is speed? Is anyone using QFAX-HPFAX at
> 14,400? Is it possible to force a MODEM to FAX at 9600 with an INIT
> var?

I use a 14.4 X-Jack Modem and can not get any of the available fax software
to work reliably either. That is why I posted my original message. I need a
fax solution for my LX but can't seem to find anything that is reliable.

73 Jeff


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:51:37 -0600
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> Does anyone have a good connection method for 200LX to and NT system?

I've been using the Connectivity Pack from Windows NT for several years
with only an occassional glitch.  I know this isn't your first choice,
but it's better than the datacomm/terminal-emulator approach, IMHO.

If you have any problems setting it up, drop me a note and I'll help
you out.

-Chris


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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:00:01 -0700
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al chin  wrote:
>RICK, Where in the world are you?

Last I was able to talk to him was at rick@colloquist.on.ca. I asked
him about docs and he said he would be writting them himself. I just
assumed he didn't want anyone to review it. As far as the missing BMP
files, I think you can just use the ones from previous betas.

Hope this helps.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:00:28 -0500
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To use the IF EXIST command with "directorires", take advantage of the fact
that every directory has a NUL file... e.g.

 IF NOT EXIST C:\%1\NUL goto end
 ::no such directory
 CD \%1
 del *.*
 cd..
 rd \%1
 :end

Filer will also delete directories and all files in them with the added
advantage that you can undelete directories: something the DOS Undelete
command can't do.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:17:21 -0500
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For logging into a windows NT domain you would need the Lan Manager for
DOS client. NT server kas a "make client disks" applet to do this. The
problem you will encounter is getting it to work with the Accton card. I
don't think that there's a NDIS driver and lan manager doesn't support
packet driver use for IP. If I remember correctly, the Lan Manager
drivers are huge. You'll be left with <400K memory after you get them
loaded. Your best bet is to use NFS. I've heard of NFS being used for
DOS packet drivers. You'd also need to install an NFS server on the NT
server.

I'm sorry I don't know about setting up the card and IP stack itself.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jorgen Wallgren Ýmailto:jorgen@PALMTOP.NET¨
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 10:22 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: ÝHPLX-L¨ Network & 200LX????????
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have an Accton EN2216-1 LAN card and I have downloaded the point
> enabler & packet driver- OP2216.EXE & PD2212.COM.
>
> But that is how far I can come- I don't understand what I
> need/should do
> now??? This despite of 200LX LAN faq & the article in The HP
> Palmtop Paper-
> "Connecting Your Palmtop to a LAN with the Ethernet Card
> EN2212/2216 from
> Accton" by Nori.
>
> I simply don't understand since the article mentioned only
> NetWare client
> and Win95 client. I would like to connect to a NT 4.0 domain
> and establish
> a TCP/IP connection for e-mail & web browsing. I also would
> like to map
> some network drives for backup of my data.
>
> I would like to be able to configure following:
>
> 1. User Name
> 2. Password
> 3. Domain
> 4. Server assigned IP address
> 5. Primary & secondary DNS
> 6. Primary & secondary WINS
>
> I would highly appreciate if anyone could tell me what I need
> and where
> I find it- in order to get a 200LX to a NT 4.0 Domain LAN connection.
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> Jorgen

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:23:29 -0500
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Hi Jeff:

33m26s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:


> I use a 14.4 X-Jack Modem and can not get any of the available fax =
software
> to work reliably either. That is why I posted my original message. I =
need a
> fax solution for my LX but can't seem to find anything that is reliable.
>

     If you want to try FAXGUI/BGFAX, I'll send the setup from my LX. I
got someone esle started this way. The file is ~400k zipped.

Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:35:50 -0800
Reply-To:     Tony Olsen 
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Subject:      WTT: My 28.8 PCMCIA for your 33.6 External
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Anyone out there have a laptop, using an external modem?  Would you want =
to trade your external modem for my PCMCIA modem?  I have a 28.8 =
"Megahertz" PCMCIA modem with XJack (the telephone plug is retractable =
inside the card... not need to an adapter =3D) ).

I'm looking for someone to do one of the following trades:

My 28.8 PCMCIA modem
For your External 33.6 modem

OR

My 28.8 PCMCIA modem
For your External 28.8 modem + $15

(I ended up with 2 28.8 modems, and I only need one, but I could really =
use a seriel port modem)

Thanks,

                Tony Olsen
                ferris@myself.com


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Anyone out there have a laptop, using an external =
modem? =20
Would you want to trade your external modem for my PCMCIA modem?  I =
have a=20
28.8 "Megahertz" PCMCIA modem with XJack (the telephone plug =
is=20
retractable inside the card... not need to an adapter =3D) =
).


 


I'm looking for someone to do one of the following=20
trades:


 


My 28.8 PCMCIA modem


For your External 33.6 modem


 


OR


 


My 28.8 PCMCIA modem


For your External 28.8 modem + $15


 


(I ended up with 2 28.8 modems, and I only need one, =
but I=20
could really use a seriel port modem)


 


Thanks,


 


          &nbs=
p;    =20
Tony Olsen


          &nbs=
p;    =20
ferris@myself.com


 


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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:43:14 -0600
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Subject:      internet usage clock

Hi  TGIW;
With everybodies on the innernet.   Is anyone
using one of those screen usage clocks where
it tells you the current time, logged on time and
monthly culmulative time? If so what is the name
of the pgm you're using?

TIA
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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:58:47 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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Hello to the list,

Has anyone written a printing script that subtotals time spent on different
projects by week (other than printing out the subtotals on Fridays)?  What
I'd like to do is, at the end of each month, print a report that shows how
much time I've spent on different projects each week during the month.


tia,

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:19:28 -0800
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              "Claud G. Cameron" 
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Hey Al,

Remember me?  If you get a list of people for the fax set-up, could you put
my e-mail address on the end?  Boy, talk about 'going to the well', ... ;-)


tia,

Claud

At 11:23 10/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi Jeff:
>
>33m26s ago ...
>On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>
>> I use a 14.4 X-Jack Modem and can not get any of the available fax software
>> to work reliably either. That is why I posted my original message. I need a
>> fax solution for my LX but can't seem to find anything that is reliable.
>>
>
>     If you want to try FAXGUI/BGFAX, I'll send the setup from my LX. I
>got someone esle started this way. The file is ~400k zipped.
>
>Cheers,
>
>*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:24:42 -0800
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Just thought I should pass on a palmtop trick I've been using for the =
last 6 months.  By using KEY200 to remap my keyboard I can access the =
DATABASE or NOTETAKER application from the FILER key.  Pressing the =
FILER key once opens DATABASE and if I press a second time (double =
click) then NOTETAKER starts.  I use one key to cycle between the =
programs.  CTRL+FILER starts FILER.


This is a portion of my AUTOEXEC.BAT that executes KEY200
---------- autoexec.bat ----------
@echo off
prompt $p$g
key200 key200.txt
doskey
200
---------- eof ----------



The key200 file with the remapings,  I added a double click to the MORE =
key to shut down system manager.
---------- key200.txt ----------
! press Ctrl + Filer to start Filer
Ctrl Filer : ¬Ctrl Ctrl ¬Ctrl Filer ¬Filer=20

! Cycle between Database & Notetaker
¬Filer Filer : Ctrl Memo ¬Memo ¬Ctrl
Filer : Ctrl Phone ¬Phone ¬Ctrl

! dbl click More to exit with a choice
¬More More : More ¬More Menu ¬Menu A ¬A T ¬T =20
---------- eof ----------

Don.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:41:47 -0800
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-----Original Message-----
From: Al Kind 

>     I wonder if the problem is speed? Is anyone using QFAX-HPFAX at
>14,400? Is it possible to force a MODEM to FAX at 9600 with an INIT
>var?


I use Qfax all the time.  I use it with several modems.  PC card XJack 3144
at 14.4, Nokia datacard, as well as external modems.

I had the version 1.10 and did have some problems with the modem training.
But I notified the author and he sent me a version that says 1.10 and
it works great.  That was about a year ago though.  I haven't bothered to
upgrade it because it works so well now.  Not broke so don't fix it.

I send my letterhead and signature PCX embeded and it all works nicely.

-Tim
tim.shephard@bigfoot.com
tims.phone@bigfoot.com (Text only. No HTML or attachments)
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This thing let's you read and/or boot from flash cards on a desktop:

http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00000325/01171357.htm

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This girlfriend thing has been circulating on the net for years. While
fairly well written, it has been abused to death. I recently even
received it in some pornographic spam to an address I used for only
one purpose: Visual dBase newsgroup. And I have not posted to that
newsgroup in a year.

Mikhail


> ** Proprietary **
>
> Upgrade Problems
>
> Last year, a friend of mine carried out an upgrade from Girlfriend 1.0 to
> Wife 1.0. He found out that Wife 1.0 requires an enourmous amount of
> memory and leaves precious few System Resources available.

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Hi Al, I know this wasn't addressed to me
but I'd love it if you sent this thing my
way as well.  I've been messing around with
different modems as you may know and am
trying to figure out a faxing option.  Thanks!

Brian S

At 11:23 AM 10/28/98 -0500, you wrote:
>     If you want to try FAXGUI/BGFAX, I'll send the setup from my LX. I
>got someone esle started this way. The file is ~400k zipped.

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> This thing let's you read and/or boot from flash cards on a desktop:

Oh.... *that* kind of card.  You had my heart skipping a beat there, when
I read "desktop card reader"!  I've always wanted a small card reader
and punch that I could use with my computers...

-Chris

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Reminds me of freshman year in College when I had to write PL/I
programs. That was 1983 and we still had to use punch cards.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: R. Christopher Lott Ýmailto:rclott@RO.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 1:43 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Desktop card reader on onsale
>
>
> > This thing let's you read and/or boot from flash cards on a desktop:
>
> Oh.... *that* kind of card.  You had my heart skipping a beat
> there, when
> I read "desktop card reader"!  I've always wanted a small card reader
> and punch that I could use with my computers...
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sorry I sent that last one to the list .... my bad. :-(

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i was never able to figure out how to use key200.  I was interested in
remapping the quicken key to the ¬, and the calc key to &.  how would i
do that?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald Collins Ýmailto:dcollins@TRENDX.COM¨
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 9:25 AM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Key200 tip
>
>
> Just thought I should pass on a palmtop trick I've been using
> for the last 6 months.  By using KEY200 to remap my keyboard
> I can access the DATABASE or NOTETAKER application from the
> FILER key.  Pressing the FILER key once opens DATABASE and if
> I press a second time (double click) then NOTETAKER starts.
> I use one key to cycle between the programs.  CTRL+FILER starts FILER.
>
>
> This is a portion of my AUTOEXEC.BAT that executes KEY200
> ---------- autoexec.bat ----------
> @echo off
> prompt $p$g
> key200 key200.txt
> doskey
> 200
> ---------- eof ----------
>
>
>
> The key200 file with the remapings,  I added a double click
> to the MORE key to shut down system manager.
> ---------- key200.txt ----------
> ! press Ctrl + Filer to start Filer
> Ctrl Filer : ¬Ctrl Ctrl ¬Ctrl Filer ¬Filer
>
> ! Cycle between Database & Notetaker
> ¬Filer Filer : Ctrl Memo ¬Memo ¬Ctrl
> Filer : Ctrl Phone ¬Phone ¬Ctrl
>
> ! dbl click More to exit with a choice
> ¬More More : More ¬More Menu ¬Menu A ¬A T ¬T
> ---------- eof ----------
>
> Don.
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I think I'll be in the same boat Ýunable to use the LX on an NT network¨.

Our 'work-based' server is an NT network w/ MS exchange server running. They
aren't about to run POP3; so email's out on the LX and I'll have to log on
to the NT Domain to make it work...

I haven't bought the LAN card yet -- should I?

        TIA

        --tim

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If they don't let you run software on the server then you shouldn't get
the card. In order to exchange data with an NT server you either need to
be a NetBIOS client(LanMan DOS, Windoze, Samba) or use IP apps like FTP
and NFS. I really doubt that you can configure a DOS SMB client on the
LX. The LanMan drivers are almost unusable with loading TSRs high
(They're huge) and I doubt you can get them to work with the LX anyway.
If you're able to run NFS or FTP server software on your desktop system
(95 or NT) then maybe it's worth your while. You can get a packet driver
NFS client.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond, Timothy CPT--PAO Ýmailto:RAYMONDT@HOOD-EMH3.ARMY.MIL¨
> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 2:48 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: ÝHPLX-L¨ Network & 200LX????????
>
>
> I think I'll be in the same boat Ýunable to use the LX on an
> NT network¨.
>
> Our 'work-based' server is an NT network w/ MS exchange
> server running. They
> aren't about to run POP3; so email's out on the LX and I'll
> have to log on
> to the NT Domain to make it work...
>
> I haven't bought the LAN card yet -- should I?
>
>         TIA
>
>         --tim
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05h46m53s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:12:40 +0100 (MET),  wrote:

On SMMX...

> Unfortunately I am experiencing some lock-ups when I press an
> application launch key in Smmx (for example Ctrl-123 to launch the DOS
> prompt). These lock-ups are not deterministic (it does not happen
> allways, and not with the same keys), but they are frequent, and the
> solution is a Ctrl-Alt-Del, or even a Ctrl-Shift-On.

I haven't experienced such lockups, but I did have frequent lockups attempting
to setup SMMX, after that not a lot of problems.  But occationally I'll add or
Order something and it'll lock up on me.

I had some weird trouble with having multiple data files around, look and see
if that's happening to you, it caused weird behaviour until I cleaned that up.
My main SMMX menu is _dat\smmlx.mnu, the the submenus are in _dat\(menu).mnu
Make sure there aren't *.mnu files in root, etc..

Good luck, it's a great menu, but obviously does have some rampant
infesations.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:01:17 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Re: Fluff - Upgrade problems * the girlfriend story

Ain't never hurd of this girrl friend upgrade before,
guess I weren't looking but it do sounds good.
Actually, I'm looking around for a brand new system
I hears dey going for as cheep as $399 with a fang
dangle celery chip and all.

Semper mobilis,
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Brian;
Hi Al, I know this wasn't addressed to me
but I'd love it if you sent this thing my
way as well.  I've been messing around with
different modems as you may know and am
trying to figure out a faxing option.  Thanks!

I got a few of deese msgs and I hopes yuu is
sending this out BROADCAST as I can't tell.
If yor sending this to me directly or not, it so,
i is de rong AL and the reel one ain't getting
yor msgs.

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> Does anyone have a good connection method for 200LX to and NT system?
>

Download and install 'Transfile Win 200' from Yellow Computing on your
W95 or NT PC. It's freeware by HP (!); you can find it on a HP palmtop
page or
on S.U.P.E.R (don't remember exactly; I got it from an HP page).

It communicates with Filer and you can see the HP200 drives on your PC.
(The HP serial cable is a 'Null-Modem' cable for direct PC/PC connection
so don't add another 'Null-Modem' to that.)

Hermann

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:39:30 -0800
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Recently there has been a push for developers to release their source code
for educational and enhancement purposes.
With such fine examples, I have decided to take a closer look at the Palmtop
Application Library.
I would like to install just the necessary files for TurboC2.0 and PAL. Does
anyone have a recommendation or a list of the minimum files and directory
structure to install PAL and TurboC 2.0 on the 200lx.

Thank you in advance.

Bradley Johnson
E-mail  : bjohnson@platsoft.com

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Hi all, I have both an Flash Memory card and a SRAM
card that I can access from my 200LX, but I can't seem
to access either of them from my notebook PC.  The
cards register as there but I am unable to access, read,
or write to the cards.  I loaded csmapper and carddrv as
instructed, but is there something else I'm missing?
The SRAM card is a Pretec 1MB, and the Flash card is
an IBM 10MB.  Any ideas or help would be appreciated!
Anyone have drivers for either of these?  If needed.
Thanks!

Brian S
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>  You can get a packet driver NFS client.

Can you point out one for me?

-Chris




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Subject:      Flash card

Hi all

Who got the least expensive 48,64,80MB
flash card today.

TIA
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Amiga users have heard the Amiga=Girlfriend (Spanish?) thing for what
seems like forever...
I wonder if this "wife" upgrade could be something for Janet Reno to
worry about?  :)

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:11:37 -0600
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Is anyone aware of a way (Debug perhaps?) to "cut-and-paste" from the
text files in the 200LX's ROM into the Memo or Notetaker applications?

Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat memory
space that's all ready "eaten".

Phil

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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, R. Christopher Lott wrote:

> >  You can get a packet driver NFS client.
> Can you point out one for me?

Hmm.... I got a couple of them a while back; one was called XFS, and the
other NFS.  Search for these filenames on file searching sites:

NFS102-W.ZIP   206,859 bytes
XFS180.ZIP     170,444 bytes

I don't have the URLs handy right now, but if anybody wants them, I can
post them to hplx.net, as they're both shareware...

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:28:00 EST
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From:         "Peter W. Borders" 
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Subject:      Re: Dos batch file example

> The idea was to completely remove a directory
> and to do that you first have to delete all the
> files in it (otherwise "rmdir" will fail).   Yu wanna
> DELete the hole DIRectory???  Use DELTREE.
> Try it, you'll like it............ :)    ...and yu don't gotta
> del da files first.   Trust me.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
>

I think the idea was also to use what is available and deltree isn't,
at least I don't think it is?

Pete


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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:37:44 EST
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Subject:      Re: Text resources in 200LX ROM...

> Is anyone aware of a way (Debug perhaps?) to "cut-and-paste" from the
> text files in the 200LX's ROM into the Memo or Notetaker applications?
>
> Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
> anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
> root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
> phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat memory
> space that's all ready "eaten".
>
> Phil
>

As long as the rom data is not compressed or encoded in some way you
should be albe to use these canned messages, as long as they say waht
you want. Use Debug to find the start address and length of the
phrases you want and then just write a routine in your favorite
languange to display characters from memory given an address and
length. You might check and see how the phrases are delimited in the
rom, usually they either have a length byte before the first
character of the message or they have a 0 byte after the end as a
delimiter. One system I remember also used the first byte of the
message ored with something like 128 to signify the start of each
message, they were all together in one big lump. If you are using C I
think you can even assign a variable to as static address, my C is
rusty so I won't swear to this, so that if they used 0 byte
terminators you would be all set. I know you can do this in assembler
quite easily.

Pete


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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:41:43 -0500
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Brian, it sounds as if you are max'd out on allocatable memory locations. Go
into Device Manager and then click on "Computer". Check to see if all IRQ
memory locations are spoken for. If they are not, than your suspicion is
correct and you probably just need the correct driver. But more than likely,
since your computer already recognizes the card, you have no available
memory slots (so it is not able to create a useable storage folder.

To fix the problem you will need to disable one the devices within device
manager system properties. Ideally, there is a device taking up a memory
slot that you rarely or never use. For instance, I disabled an IDE port
which was part of my sound card. You could try disabling one of your serial
ports if you are only using one. Or you can assign 2 devices that would
probably never be used simultaneously (such as a joystick & mouse) to the
same
memory location to free up a slot. If you are using a PCMCIA modem card, you
will probably find that you can immediately fix your problem by simply
pulling out the card temporarily,  Hope this helps.

Regards,

Gary Silverman

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From: Brian Sugita 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 4:42 PM
Subject: ATA Flash/SRAM Question


>Hi all, I have both an Flash Memory card and a SRAM
>card that I can access from my 200LX, but I can't seem
>to access either of them from my notebook PC.  The
>cards register as there but I am unable to access, read,
>or write to the cards.  I loaded csmapper and carddrv as
>instructed, but is there something else I'm missing?
>The SRAM card is a Pretec 1MB, and the Flash card is
>an IBM 10MB.  Any ideas or help would be appreciated!
>Anyone have drivers for either of these?  If needed.
>Thanks!
>
>Brian S
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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:57:32 -0600
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Subject:      Re: ATA Flash/SRAM Question

Brian
I had the same problem.  Sometimes its the voltage
3 vs 5V.  Sometimes its the format.  I format on the
new machine and it don''t woik on da old.  In that
case yu got to take one or the other.  I think there
is an incompat between some laps and palms.  They
don't always go together.  samee samee problem
with sram and atas.

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Hi All:

06h17m42s ago ...
On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Tim S. wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Kind 
>
> >     I wonder if the problem is speed? Is anyone using QFAX-HPFAX at
> >14,400? Is it possible to force a MODEM to FAX at 9600 with an INIT
> >var?
>
> I use Qfax all the time.  I use it with several modems.  PC card XJack =
3144
> at 14.4, Nokia datacard, as well as external modems...

     I can create the .FAX files OK, but when it tries to init the
MODEM, I get an:

Internal stack overflow
System Halted

Error and the Palmtop locks up requiring the "three finger salute" to
free it up.

I have tired within Software Carousel, and from a regular DOS prompt. I
have ~560KB free.

Any ideas?

TIA & Cheers,

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:20:56 -0800
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I purchased a SimpleTech compact flash, 48 meg and found my battery life
went down to about 1 hour.  (According to ABC/LX battery usage timer).

I then had the merchant send me a Viking card and have found the same
results.

I was wondering how the Sandisk compact cards are.  If I switch to that one,
I will have to get a credit and add some more $$ and purchase it elsewhere.
A lot of hassle if I get the same results.


-Tim
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:03:40 -0500, Al Kind  =
wrote:


> I can create the .FAX files OK, but when it tries to init the
> MODEM, I get an:
>
> Internal stack overflow
> System Halted
>
> Error and the Palmtop locks up requiring the "three finger salute" to
> free it up.

Try adding the following line to your config.sys
Stacks=3D9,256

HTH

Regards,

Qman...

Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:27:14 -0800
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Well, thanks to Gary I got my SRAM card working just
fine, the ATA card is working to a point, but it won't let
me format/write to it at all.  It's asking for some kind of
driver. I did find out that tho the card says IBM on it, that
it is actually a Sundisk 10MB ATA Flash.  Does anyone
have the drivers for the Sundisk ATA card?  Send them
my way if you can find them.  Thanks a bunch!

Brian S
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I have an IBM (sandisk) ATA flash and there
are no drivers to it unless its stacked which
sometmes requires two drivers, one to get
into the card and the other one for the stacker.

Semper mobilis,
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Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:43:24 -0500 (EST)

Hi folks-

Went over to the local OfficeMax yesterday, and found they now have the
Cirque EasyCat touchpad for $29.95  Picked one up, and am trying it out
with the 200LX.  Works fine with the mouse driver I have (from an el
cheapo Dexxa mouse).  Takes a little getting used to and some tweaking
of the sensitivity, but no problems.  8-)

-Peniel
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Did you happen to see any copies of Sigma Plot for DOS?  I'm
willing to pay a 'service charge' if you did (and you send
it to me).

On Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:41:35 -0500, "74737,221" <74737.221@COMPUSERVE.COM>=
 wrote:

> Hello, all.
>
> Was at a software outlet store todayand they had lots of dos software =
for
> sale.  Just wondering what versions of the below names software people =
are
> using.....
>
> I got a copy of quicken 7.0 for dos but noone had seen a version 8.0.  =
for
> 5 bucks, you can't go wrong anyway!
>
> Here is my list...
>
> 1.  quicken (dos 7.0 work pretty well?)
> 2.  WP.  I saw version 4.0 and 5.0 for dos complete with manuals for 25
> 3.  norton utilities.  there are so many I can't keep them strait.
>
> mucho,
>
> dave
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>Does anyone offer this commercially? I'm not very good at prying open
>small devices and working with small tools. I would feel more
>comfortable with a finished product that is tested and backed by someone
>that knows what the heck they're doing :-)

Ed,

I did the original write-up on hacking the Palmpilot modem for
use on the LX. As far as I know, no one is offering them commercially,
and I doubt that anyone will (14.4kb is percieved as too slow for
most people these days). However, for e-mail and some small FTP's,
it's fine. The best part is that the 2AA batteries last me about
6 weeks of 'normal' use. Try that with any other modem out there!

As for doing it yourself, it's really not that hard. Just take
your time and use a good soldering iron.

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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:39:50 -0600
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I'm preparing to move and I have various accessories for the 100/200LX for
sale cheap.
        e.g. Greystone PA-70 PCMCIA type II to type III adaptor w/powersupply
               JetEye Infra-red transceiver for the desktop or printer, ect.
If anyone is interested email and we can dicuss how to send it etc.
Thanks!
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Date:         Wed, 28 Oct 1998 22:01:39 -0800
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Yes. =)  I had a PC-110 and 200LX together for a while, and the connectivity
pack worked just fine.  It'll run anything and everything a desktop 486-33SX
can do.  I was even able to get Mircosoft's NetMeeting running, and I was
able to do Internet phone. =)

            Tony

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Subject: Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>Danny;
>
>Does it run the connectivity pack?
>
>Semper mobilis,
>yor pal al :-) .............
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Thanks for the info. =).  I downloaded the emulator.

The Spectrum fact link doesn't seem to work.  Any suggestions? =)

Thanks,

            Tony

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Date: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: SPHiNX C--, Spectrum Emulation


>On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Tony Olsen wrote:
>
>> Where is that web page of the list of free Spectrum games?  Are they
pretty
>> good quality? =)
>
>The quality of the games varies a lot. It usually helps if you have fond
>memories of playing them during the 80's ;-)
>
>The Spectrum FAQ can be found here:
>http://www.kendalls.demon.co.uk/cssfaq/index.html
>
>and pretty much includes everything you need to know.
>
>Nuclear ZX, the fastest emulator I've been able to run on the LX, can be
>found here:
>
>ftp://ftp.gns.getronics.nl/pub/os/sinclair/emulators/pc/dos/nuclear_zx.zip
>and its homepage here:
>http://www.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/zx.html
>(although it appears to be down)
>
>Source code (TP and Asm) is apparently available to those who send the
>author a poem about the Spectrum. Interesting...
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Laust
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Brian, I have an older Sundisk 20mb ATA flash card that works just fine in
my laptop under Windows 98. The 20mb card quite possibly uses the same
driver as your 10mb card. The Sundisk card is not recognized as a PCMCIA
card under W/98. It is recognized under system devices as a hard disk
controller. On my PC, it uses the following drivers:

c:\windows\system\iosubsys\ESDI_506.pdr
c:\windows\system\VMM32\IOS.vxd

These Microsoft drivers are on the W/98 CD and are dated 5-11-98. If you are
using W/98, you may want to just go into system properties for the card and
click on update drivers. Initially accept the default driver. If this does
not work, try extracting the drivers I mention above from the Windows cab
file which hopefully resides on your PC. If you don't have access to these
drivers or if they don't work, I do have one last resort suggestion. Either
contact Sandisk technical support at 1-408-542-0400 or through email at
support@sandisk.com to request the correct drivers, or see if you can
download it off their web site at www.sandisk .com.

Good Luck,

Gary Silverman


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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: SRAM/ATA


>Well, thanks to Gary I got my SRAM card working just
>fine, the ATA card is working to a point, but it won't let
>me format/write to it at all.  It's asking for some kind of
>driver. I did find out that tho the card says IBM on it, that
>it is actually a Sundisk 10MB ATA Flash.  Does anyone
>have the drivers for the Sundisk ATA card?  Send them
>my way if you can find them.  Thanks a bunch!
>
>Brian S
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>
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> Hi Jeff, Darren & All:
>
> Darren, do you use an internal or external MODEM? I have never gotten
> QFax to work w/ PCMCIA MODEM, but you and QMan(among others ?) have had
> success. I think I remember that all success has been w/ external
> MODEMS.

I use a Megahertz XJ1144. pcmcia

>
> I switched from MiniFAX to BGFax when I switched MODEMS. With Jorgen's
> FAXGUI, it is great FAX software....allows inclusion of PCX files in =
the
> FAX, and multiple font sizes if you want to get fancy.
>
I might give that a try if it's more reliable. I kinda wish Qfax would =
work
better 'cause it's so small...

> There is also Delrina's DOSFAX lite that ships w/ some MODEMS. I tried

I have a copy of this that came with an old Intel modem. Kinda large for =
my
taste. Thanks though - maybe I'll fiddle w/ BGFax.

Darren.

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> Is anyone aware of a way (Debug perhaps?) to "cut-and-paste" from the
> text files in the 200LX's ROM into the Memo or Notetaker applications?
>
> Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
> anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
> root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
> phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat =
memory
> space that's all ready "eaten".
>
> Phil
>

That is _sick_, man. RAM is cheap now. That's, like, some kind of vic 20
trick or something. Although... -- NO! I refuse to even think about it. =
Good
Day, Sir.

Darren.

"Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Here is some sample code I wrote in Perl 5 to do the following changes
to my PHONE.PDB database:
- Join the fields "Str" and "Pl", separated by a comma, put result in
"Str"
- Empty the "Pl" field
I also printed the longer "Str" field found in the whole database, just
to check that it was not too long for field length.

Thanks to Gerhard Gonter for providing the hp200lx-db-0.03 package. It
is available at ftp://ftp.wu-wien.ac.at/pub/usr/edvz/gonter/hp200lx/

The code follows:
--
use HP200LX::DB;

$db = &HP200LX::DB::openDB("phone.pdb");

tie (@db, HP200LX::DB, $db);

# it is necessary to retrieve the size of the array
my $db_cnt= $db->get_last_index ();

$max = ""; $name = "";
for ($i= 0; $i <= $db_cnt; $i++)
{
  $rec= $dbÝ$i¨;        # fetch the DB record as a hash reference
  @f = grep(/\S/, $rec->{'Str'}, $rec->{'Pl'});
  $rec->{'Str'} = join(", ", @f);
  $rec->{'Pl'} = "";
  $dbÝ$i¨ = $rec;       # and write it back to database

  if ( length($rec->{'Str'}) > length($max) )
  {
    $max = $rec->{'Str'};
    $name = $rec->{'Name'};
  }
}
$db->saveDB("phone2.pdb");
print "$name\n$max\n\n";

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I was asked for more info on Perl 5, so here it goes:
- Needs win32 or Unix to run. I use the same scripts in both Linux and
Windows95. There is no way to squeeze it into the Plamtop, because it is
very memory hungry.
- The central URL is http://www.perl.com
- If you want to learn, get a good book. I recommend "Programming Perl",
second edition, from O'Reilly. To move to the advanced programming
topics, I recommend "Advanced Perl Programming", also from O'Reilly.
(I do not have any share at O'Reilly, I just like the books they
publish, and have a whole collection at home. Their books are normally
practical, concise, up-to-the-point, and with working examples)

Some of the characteristics of Perl 5 that I like most:
- Object Orientation - define classes, derived classes, and hide all the
details to the class user. This was the major improvement from Perl 4
- Huge amount of classes available, to do the most different things.
Strategy in Perl programming: check http://www.perl.com, because
probably someone has already done the code you need.
- Text manipulation (like the Unix tools AWK, SED)
- C-like syntax, but the basic datatypes are a scalar (number or
string), an array or a hash table (instead of char, int, long)
- Memory management: you don't have to worry. Just write
        $cÝ6¨ = 10
and you get the an array with 7 elements created, and the seventh
initialized to 10.
- The code is compiled when you ask it to run, with no noticeable delay,
and it runs quite fast.

It may look I'm a Perl fan - and I am. Next thing best, after the 200LX

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At 13:39 28/10/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Recently there has been a push for developers to release their source code
>for educational and enhancement purposes.
>With such fine examples, I have decided to take a closer look at the Palmtop
>Application Library.
>I would like to install just the necessary files for TurboC2.0 and PAL. Does
>anyone have a recommendation or a list of the minimum files and directory
>structure to install PAL and TurboC 2.0 on the 200lx.

I haven't got PAL installed in my 200LX (just don't program on in
normally), but I have Turbo C 2.0. I remember I installed it partially and
deleted some files in order to keep it small, but just don't remember
exactly what I removed.

Anyway, here's "DIR *.* /S" output of my TC directory. If you compare with
a normal instalation you'll find out what to remove. Note that all my H
files have been moved into INCLUDE directory, which is not their original
location, and which is not listed for shortness (I'm sure I didn't remove
any of the .H files).


 Volume in drive A is unlabeled
 Directory of  a:\program\tc\*.*

.                  6-10-98   9:58
..                 6-10-98   9:58
INCLUDE            6-15-98  13:15
LIB                6-15-98  13:15
ATT.BGI          6269   8-29-88   2:00
BGIDEMO.C       40195   8-29-88   2:00
BGIOBJ.EXE      12282   8-29-88   2:00
CGA.BGI          6253   8-29-88   2:00
CINSTXFR.EXE    18436   8-29-88   2:00
CPP.EXE         59531   8-29-88   2:00
EGAVGA.BGI       5363   8-29-88   2:00
GETOPT.C         4230   8-29-88   2:00
GOTH.CHR         8560   8-29-88   2:00
GREP.COM         6979   8-29-88   2:00
HELLO.C           104   8-29-88   2:00
HELPME!.DOC     17970   8-29-88   2:00
HERC.BGI         6125   8-29-88   2:00
IBM8514.BGI      6665   8-29-88   2:00
LITT.CHR         2138   8-29-88   2:00
MAKE.EXE        27142   8-29-88   2:00
MATHERR.C        4644   8-29-88   2:00
OBJXREF.COM     30392   8-29-88   2:00
PC3270.BGI       6029   8-29-88   2:00
README          22036   8-29-88   2:00
README.COM       4200   8-29-88   2:00
SANS.CHR         5438   8-29-88   2:00
SSIGNAL.C        3773   8-29-88   2:00
TC.EXE         290249   5-07-98  10:46
TCC.EXE        179917   8-29-88   2:00
TCCONFIG.EXE    15488   8-29-88   2:00
TCHELP.TCH     222200   8-29-88   2:00
TCINST.EXE      79664   8-29-88   2:00
THELP.COM       28246   6-10-98  10:18
THELP.DOC       12682   8-29-88   2:00
TLIB.EXE        31104   5-07-98  10:46
TLINK.EXE       21717   8-29-88   2:00
TOUCH.COM        3992   8-29-88   2:00
TRIP.CHR         7241   8-29-88   2:00
TURBOC.CFG         60   6-10-98  10:19
      1,197,314 bytes in 35 files and 4 dirs    1,234,944 bytes allocated

 Directory of  a:\program\tc\lib\*.*

.                  6-15-98  13:15
..                 6-15-98  13:15
C0L.OBJ          2043   8-29-88   2:00
C0S.OBJ          2200   8-29-88   2:00
C0T.OBJ          2107   8-29-88   2:00
CL.LIB         110973   8-29-88   2:00
CS.LIB         104895   5-07-98  10:51
EMU.LIB         15384   8-29-88   2:00
FP87.LIB         3540   8-29-88   2:00
GRAPHICS.LIB    29247   8-29-88   2:00
INIT.OBJ         1642   8-29-88   2:00
MATHL.LIB       21510   5-07-98  10:49
MATHS.LIB       20957   5-07-98  10:49
        314,498 bytes in 11 files and 2 dirs    327,680 bytes allocated

    Total for:  a:\program\tc\*.*
      1,576,831 bytes in 75 files and 11 dirs    1,662,976 bytes allocated
      9,779,200 bytes free


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Ignacio Garcia Perez
Departamento I+D, GND S.A.
Parque Tecnologico de Valencia
Calle A3, Paterna (Valencia) 46980
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Sorry, hp200lx-db-0.03 moved to CPAN.

You can get it at
ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/source/CPAN/modules/by-module/HP200LX/

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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Paulo Custodio wrote:

> I was asked for more info on Perl 5, so here it goes:
> - Needs win32 or Unix to run. I use the same scripts in both Linux and
> Windows95. There is no way to squeeze it into the Plamtop, because it is
> very memory hungry.

It doesn't need win32 or UNIX, there is an excellent DOS port of Perl
5.004. As a bonus, it handles long filenames under Win95/98. More or less
the best of both worldsÝ1¨, Perl both in DOS and under Win95/98.

That said, running it under Windows is much preferred, as all the modules
it comes with use long filenames, so Windows is pretty much needed if you
use modules (but simple scripts _do_ run under plain DOS).

Ý1¨ the best when you're running WinDOS, obviously :-)

> - The central URL is http://www.perl.com
> - If you want to learn, get a good book. I recommend "Programming Perl",
> second edition, from O'Reilly. To move to the advanced programming
> topics, I recommend "Advanced Perl Programming", also from O'Reilly.
> (I do not have any share at O'Reilly, I just like the books they
> publish, and have a whole collection at home. Their books are normally
> practical, concise, up-to-the-point, and with working examples)

O'Reilly make some nice books, I've got one on perl and one on Awk+Sed
(little used, though). However, the man pages are also pretty good, and
much cheaper ;-)

> Some of the characteristics of Perl 5 that I like most:

> - Text manipulation (like the Unix tools AWK, SED)

Indeed! unbeatable.

> - C-like syntax, but the basic datatypes are a scalar (number or
> string), an array or a hash table (instead of char, int, long)

and scalars are numbers in numerical context and strings in a string
context. No conversion usually needed.

To the list of things to like about Perl, let me just add that it handles
binary files, something Awk lacked (and I needed).

> It may look I'm a Perl fan - and I am. Next thing best, after the 200LX

Version 4 runs on the LX, and quite nicely too.


Cheers,

Laust

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> > Is anyone aware of a way (Debug perhaps?) to "cut-and-paste" from the
> > text files in the 200LX's ROM into the Memo or Notetaker applications?
>
> As long as the rom data is not compressed or encoded in some way you
> should be albe to use these canned messages.
>

It's not that simple if not almost impossible. We have 1MB main
memory in the palmtop and 2MB ROM with all the built in
applications. As long as you run plain DOS the 2MB ROM are far
away for you. If SysMgr is running, it maps the needed part of
the ROM into pages in the upper 1MB RAM. There are 9 pages in
the range 0xC0000-0xF0000.

If you want to use texts from ROM, you have to find out where
the text is placed in the ROM. Then you have to look for a free
page in the RAM (unlikely to find, if SysMgr is running).
Finally you have to map the ROM including your text into this
free page and now you can access it. After use you should release
the page indeed.

The problem is to scan the ROM. It cannot be done with debug or
any other debugger. You have to write a program which uses
INT63 to map 64KB segments of the ROM into a 64KB page in upper
RAM. Then you are able to use debug to examinate the 64KB page.
With 2MB ROM there are 32 pages of 64KB to examine!

If you ask me: use your own texts and finally compress your
binary. Text in binaries compresses very well. And you have no
conflicts with different ROM/language versions. I for example
use a german version palmtop and my ROM is filled with german
texts.

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John McDonald wrote:
>
> >Does anyone offer this commercially? I'm not very good at prying open
> >small devices and working with small tools. I would feel more
> >comfortable with a finished product that is tested and backed by someone
> >that knows what the heck they're doing :-)
>
> Ed,
>
> I did the original write-up on hacking the Palmpilot modem for
> use on the LX. As far as I know, no one is offering them commercially,
> and I doubt that anyone will (14.4kb is percieved as too slow for
> most people these days). However, for e-mail and some small FTP's,
> it's fine. The best part is that the 2AA batteries last me about
> 6 weeks of 'normal' use. Try that with any other modem out there!
>
> As for doing it yourself, it's really not that hard. Just take
> your time and use a good soldering iron.
>
> John

Looks to me like if we could find the mating connector for the PP modem
then a custom made cable would be all you need, without all the surgery.
Anyone ever find a cable connector to mate with the modem. Maybe I can
find a fried Pilot on the Pilot mail list and surgically remove it and
make the cable.
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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I don't do it comercially, but I did do this little experiment
on my own after seeing the Hacking with Jorgen Page. I
successfully created this beast, tho not exactly as he did
I basically stripped the cover off the contacts on the PP
modem and soldered a 200LX cable to it, still utilizing the
PP modem case and battery holder, etc.  Works pretty
good, but doesn't seem to fax, so I'm not using it.  I might
be conviced to part with it, or even make one up for someone.

Brian S

At 11:25 AM 10/26/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I have seen Jorgen's palmpilot modem hack for the 200lx
>(http://www.palmtop.net/~jorgen/tips.htm)
>
>Does anyone offer this commercially? I'm not very good at prying open
>small devices and working with small tools. I would feel more
>comfortable with a finished product that is tested and backed by someone
>that knows what the heck they're doing :-)
>
>If it's not available commercially maybe we should encourage some of the
>vendor-members of this list. I, for one, would be willing to pay 15-20%
>over the market value of the palmpilot modem for this service.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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For best prices, check out the PDApage
http://www.pdapage.com/productpage.asp?style=hand&page=6 and also go to the
Excite Product Finder at http://www.jango.com/xsh/index.dcg?.  Under
Computer Hardware, check Peripherals and then enter "ATA FLASH" in the
Product box before you click on Find Prices.

Alan

>From:  al chin ÝSMTP:hobchi@JUNO.COM¨
>Sent:  Wednesday, October 28, 1998 4:49 PM
>...
>Who got the least expensive 48,64,80MB
>flash card today.

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> If they don't let you run software on the server then you shouldn't get
> the card. In order to exchange data with an NT server you either need =
to
> be a NetBIOS client(LanMan DOS, Windoze, Samba) or use IP apps like FTP
> and NFS. I really doubt that you can configure a DOS SMB client on the
> LX. The LanMan drivers are almost unusable with loading TSRs high
> (They're huge) and I doubt you can get them to work with the LX anyway.
> If you're able to run NFS or FTP server software on your desktop system
> (95 or NT) then maybe it's worth your while. You can get a packet =
driver
> NFS client.

I will probably skip my to login to a NT domain, but my e-mail I want.
Today, I tired a new approuch. I downloaded LXTCP08B.ZIP & PRN22B.ZIP
from Rod Whitby's web site and after activation of the Accton LAN card,
I could send and receive my e-mail!!! However, as far as I understand I
must configure my IP address in WATTCP.CFG and then I will only be able
to use my 200LX and LAN card in my office. Since my company has offices
all over the world, I would like to be able to get a server assigned IP
address- DHCP (we are not using BOOTP). First then this setup will be
useful, since I will be able to connect and get my e-mail from any of
our offices. So is this possible or not? I think it is, but it's
complicated! I saw something on the net about a guy that have tried
to get a DOS machine to work with DHCP, he came half way.

Any idea's how to solve this problem on the 200LX?

Thanks and Regards,

Jorgen

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"I had a PC-110 and 200LX together for a while, and the connectivity"

Would you recommend the PC-110?
Where is US version available?
Did the NetMeeting sound quality hold up? (I understood the modem speed was only 2400 baud...correct?)
Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:47:27 -0500
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Hi:

     Is anyone using an XJack MODEM, 28.8 or 33.6kbps MODEM in their
x00/LX? I am currently using an APEX, but would like the XJack feature.
I have a XJ1144 but it doesn't have the "power down" feature. I had an
XJ2144 a while back, but it was problematic (for me anyway ;-)  ).

I have never tried the XJ3144, does that support power-down ?

Any experience & possible source would be appreciated.

TIA & Cheers,

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Anyone have the full desktop version, not the hp version. I want to try the
mouse files out with aol and sprint net. Tx Roy

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Darren Frick wrote:
>
> > Is anyone aware of a way (Debug perhaps?) to "cut-and-paste" from the
> > text files in the 200LX's ROM into the Memo or Notetaker applications?
> >
> > Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
> > anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
> > root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
> > phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat memory
> > space that's all ready "eaten".
> >
> > Phil
> >
>
> That is _sick_, man. RAM is cheap now. That's, like, some kind of vic 20
> trick or something. Although... -- NO! I refuse to even think about it. Good
> Day, Sir.
>
> Darren.
>
I think I pretty much agree with Darren. However, the notion that
you suggest is pretty much the same as the one that lurks `behind'
widely available compression tools, such as the PKZIP, WinZip, ...
family. Text compression, when it is successful, pretty much depends
on letting a document `grow' its own shorthand by allowing strings
in the file to be replaced by (much shorter) pointers to earlier
occurrences of the string.

Thus I'd be tempted to use one of the Zip subroutine libraries if
space was at a real premium. It would take an awful lot of work, IMHO,
to do better.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:44:32 -0800
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From:         Tony Olsen 
Subject:      Searching for Windows 3.0
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I want to install Windows 3.0 on my palmtop.  From the SLEEP.ZIP program was
a file saying which Windows3.0 files are needed on the HP-LX.  I own 2
licenses for Windows 3.1, which I don't use, so I figure that it should
cover the license needed to own Windows 3.0.  Does anybody have Windows 3.0?
Could you e-mail the following files?  -OR-  Where can I find the following
files?:

*****

  For any-one who wants to try it here is a minimal version of Windows 3.0
  posted to The HP Palmtop Mailing List by Stefan Peichl

  WIN      COM      3824 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGA      DRV     45680 05-09-90  12:00p
  COMM     DRV      7120 05-09-90  12:00p
  KEYBOARD DRV      7041 05-09-90  12:00p
  MOUSE    DRV      4896 05-09-90  12:00p
  SOUND    DRV      3622 05-09-90  12:00p
  SYSTEM   DRV      2784 05-09-90  12:00p
  GDI      EXE    129691 05-09-90  12:00p
  KERNEL   EXE     69120 05-09-90  12:00p
  PROGMAN  EXE     55872 05-09-90  12:00p
  USER     EXE    231808 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGAOEM   FON      4576 05-09-90  12:00p
  CGASYS   FON      4368 05-09-90  12:00p
  SYSTEM   INI       114 10-28-95   2:15p
         17 file(s)     570516 bytes

*****

Thanks,

                Tony

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:45:27 -0600
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  Anyone know of any available public cc:mail servers for use with the
100/200 LXs?

>

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Subject:      Re: 200LX friendly XJack 28.8 / 33.6?
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>      Is anyone using an XJack MODEM, 28.8 or 33.6kbps MODEM in their
> x00/LX? I am currently using an APEX, but would like the XJack feature.
> I have a XJ1144 but it doesn't have the "power down" feature. I had an
> XJ2144 a while back, but it was problematic (for me anyway ;-)  ).

The faster XJack modems use too much juice.  The Simple Tech 33.6 works
great, nice and fast.  The "Simple Jack" is a major kludge compared
to the XJack, but it works.  Besides the extra speed, the modems beyond
14.4 also have better recovery from line problems.  (if you ever want
to prove this, go online and pick up the phone - a 14.4 will usually
die, while a 28.8+ will usually recover once you hang the phone up)

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The PC-110 is more powerful, VGA graphics, Sound Blaster sound, etc... but
it's larger, heavier, costs 4-6 times as much as the 200LX, shorter battery
life.  I think each palmtop has its own special abilities that attract its
own group of individuals, but for me, I preffer the Toshiba Libretto in one
hand, and the 200LX in the other hand... the best of both worlds. =)  (The
Libretto 70CT, with P-120MMX, 1GB+, 32MB, etc, costs the same as a PC-110
with a 486-33SX, 300MB, 24MB, etc.  The only drawback is that my Libretto
50CT doesn't record sound).

I guess it depends what you're looking for. =)  ...so.... what are you
looking for? =)

                Tony

-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:34 AM
Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>"I had a PC-110 and 200LX together for a while, and the connectivity"
>
>Would you recommend the PC-110?
>Where is US version available?
>Did the NetMeeting sound quality hold up? (I understood the modem speed was
only 2400 baud...correct?)
>Chuck Sutherland
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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:59:23 -0800
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I have a MegaHertz 28.8 PCMCIA with XJack, but I've only tried it in my
Libretto 50CT, which works fine.

What kind of problems did you notice with your other modem?

            Tony

-----Original Message-----
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To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:51 AM
Subject: 200LX friendly XJack 28.8 / 33.6?


Hi:

     Is anyone using an XJack MODEM, 28.8 or 33.6kbps MODEM in their
x00/LX? I am currently using an APEX, but would like the XJack feature.
I have a XJ1144 but it doesn't have the "power down" feature. I had an
XJ2144 a while back, but it was problematic (for me anyway ;-)  ).

I have never tried the XJ3144, does that support power-down ?

Any experience & possible source would be appreciated.

TIA & Cheers,

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:01:10 +0100
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad 
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From:         Laust Brock-Nannestad 
Subject:      Re: SPHiNX C--, Spectrum Emulation
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On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Tony Olsen wrote:

> Thanks for the info. =).  I downloaded the emulator.
>
> The Spectrum fact link doesn't seem to work.  Any suggestions? =)

It just worked for me. Otherwise, try one of these mirrors:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/8193/index.html

http://www.nvg.ntnu.no/sinclair/faq/index.html
(slightly outdated version)

http://www.void.demon.nl/faq/index.html


Cheers,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:12:42 -0500
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              Al Kind 
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From:         Al Kind 
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20m25s ago ...
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Steven Lawson wrote:

> ...
> The faster XJack modems use too much juice.  The Simple Tech 33.6 works
> great, nice and fast...

     Where can you get them?

Cheers,


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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:29:58 -0500
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39m21s ago ...
On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, MIKE GUMAN wrote:

>   Anyone know of any available public cc:mail servers for use with the
> 100/200 LXs?
>

See:

http://www.palmtop.com

Works Great!

Cheers,

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What are the ¬ and & keys on your machine?  On my 200LX, quicken is the =
¬ key but 123 is the & key.  My guess is you have a 100LX and cc:Mail is =
the ¬ key.  Is that correct?

If you go to DOS and type key200, you should see a display of key names. =
 Each key has a keydown and keyup action.  So you can program what =
should happen when you press on a key as well as when you release the =
key.  So "Memo" represents the key press down for Memo and "¬Memo" =
represents releasing the key.

This is how I would swap the 123 key and cc:Mail
Alt 123 : ¬Alt Alt ¬Alt 123 ¬123  =20
123 : Alt 123 ¬123 ¬Alt Alt

On my machine, remapping the calc key to & is simple.

123 : Calc ¬Calc

Of course it will be different on your machine.  Hope this helped in =
some way. =20

Don.

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i was never able to figure out how to use key200.  I was interested in
remapping the quicken key to the ¬, and the calc key to &.  how would i
do that?

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:53:52 -0700
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hello.  how much are you asking for the pcmcia adapter and jeteye?

thanks.
myron china

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>
> I'm preparing to move and I have various accessories for the 100/200LX for
> sale cheap.
>         e.g. Greystone PA-70 PCMCIA type II to type III adaptor w/powersupply
>                JetEye Infra-red transceiver for the desktop or printer, ect.
> If anyone is interested email and we can dicuss how to send it etc.
> Thanks!
> Steve
>

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"What are you looking for?"
Good Question.  I'm looking to ADD to rather than replace my HP200LX.  =
Primarily, I'm looking for a screen for "major work" that will be easier =
on my eyes over a period of several hours (without having to carry a =
laptop).  I travel 4-5 days a week.
I've looked at the Libretto 100.  Looks like a great machine for the =
size, but was interested in something with a color screen, smaller =
footprint, and full DOS compatibility.  I thought the IBM PC110 might be =
a perfect companion to my HP200LX (which I'll NEVER part with!).
An further thoughts?
Chuck Sutherland

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:21:19 -0700
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hello.  how much are you asking for the adapter and jeteye?
please let me know.

thanks.
myron china

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>
> I'm preparing to move and I have various accessories for the 100/200LX for
> sale cheap.
>         e.g. Greystone PA-70 PCMCIA type II to type III adaptor w/powersupply
>                JetEye Infra-red transceiver for the desktop or printer, ect.
> If anyone is interested email and we can dicuss how to send it etc.
> Thanks!
> Steve
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              "James R. Hall" 
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If anyone wants it, I ahve a tiny, tiny space game called Argonaut,
it is shareware/freeware (got it off of a shareware cd), it is 43-46k
in size just for the executable and the text file is around 7k. all you
need to run it is the executable. According to the text file it's possible
to contact the author (if his addy is still right, he might have moved and
this program is a little old) to get the Turbo Pascal (3.02) source code for
the game.

     -James, N9XLC
     -jrhall@globalsite.net
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I haven't been getting any messages so I was wondering what happened to
the mailing list.

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:53:22 -0500
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I have always observed much communication regarding the variety of disk
compression techniques used with the palmtops. Another issue closely related
is the use of a PCMCIA card in a WIN 95/98 system.
Windows has "DRIVESPACE" for diskcompression.
Is it possible a DOS driver could be developed that would be compatible with
this? I think that even if it was slower on the Palmtop for any particular
reason, the ability to 'pop' the card right into your notebook AND keep disk
compression would be invaluable.

Just wondering. No flames, please.


NO ADMENDMENT NEEDED:
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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:40:46 -0500
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While sifting through my old disks last month, I came across Excel 2.01 and
decided to install it on my 200LX as a run-time application (no Windows
desktop).

I installed it first on an old PS/2 Model 30 under DOS 3.3, then copied it
over to the 200LX via a nullmodem serial cable. But when I tried to run it
on the 200LX, it barfed with the message "Wrong DOS version".

I first assumed that this was because I installed it under DOS 3.3 on the
desktop, not under DOS 5.0 like the palmtop uses. But upon reading back
issues of this List, I discovered that old versions of Excel need
SETVER.EXE to run on the palmtop. I recently managed to grab SETVER from a
friend's old set of DOS 5.0 disks, so now my questions are:

1.) How do I use SETVER? From command line or CONFIG.SYS? With what
switches?
2.) Instead of Excel version 2.01, should I use the version 2.1 that's
currently floating around as abandonware? What are the differences? What is
the highest version of Excel that fits on the 200LX as a run-time
application, and where might I find a copy of that?
3.) Is Excel on the palmtop really worth it, considering that all I'm
really looking for is somewhat better-formatted conversions of my Office 98
spreadsheets?

Thanks in advance for any and all answers.

Bruce Martin
bruce_martin@manulife.com

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:46:22 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Network & 200LX????????
Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren 
In-Reply-To:  Jorgen Wallgren's message of Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:51:35 +0800

Jorgen Wallgren  wrote:
> all over the world, I would like to be able to get a server assigned IP
> address- DHCP (we are not using BOOTP). First then this setup will be

If you think you can do BOOTP on the palmtop, ask your network
administrator(s).  It's possible for DHCP servers to support BOOTP
clients (server software and local administrative policy permitting),
but support for BOOTP clients isn't required.  Details in RFC 1534.

-Frank McConnell

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:22:59 -0800
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There used to be a version on
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html but now it's
marked "broken".

- Joe

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:44:35 -0600
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Has anyone used the Ericsson DC-23 or the older DC-12 GSM phone
interface card with their 200LX?  If so, I'd like to hear from
you.

-Chris

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I would like a replacement of  the database in the palmtop. I used dBase =
many years ago, but my disks were thrown out years ago (in the constant =
'improvements' and 'upgrades')
I have looked at Recycled Software (www.recycledsoftware.com ) I could =
not find dBase for DOS. I did see Rbase. I vaguely remember that one. =
Does anyone have any experience with Rbase - OR - does anyone know where =
I can get dBase III?
=20
Thanks!

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I would like a replacement of  =
the database=20
in the palmtop. I used dBase many years ago, but my disks were thrown =
out years=20
ago (in the constant 'improvements' and 'upgrades')


I have looked at Recycled Software =
(www.recycledsoftware.com ) =
I could=20
not find dBase for DOS. I did see Rbase. I vaguely remember that one. =
Does=20
anyone have any experience with Rbase - OR - does anyone know where I =
can get=20
dBase III?


 


Thanks!


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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:17:34 -0800
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Someone wrote:
> > >Does anyone offer this commercially? I'm not very good at prying open
> > >small devices and working with small tools. I would feel more
> > >comfortable with a finished product that is tested and backed by someone
> > >that knows what the heck they're doing :-)

Hmmm,
Is the reason folks are interested in hacking a palm pilot modem simply
that it runs off its own batteries?

If so I saw the Data Traveler modem at Future shop a while back.  It cam
run off a plug or its own batteries.  The box very clearly states it will
work with the Hp200lx palmtop.
There was also a list of cell phones that it works with.


I haven't purchased one, yet,


Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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Does anyone have any experience with using the Megaherts EM1144T Ethernet /
Modem combo card in the 200lx? I am in a bidding war on ebay for one of
these, and am beginning to wonder if it is worth it.

John Guenther

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A very stupid question ?

Where do one gets this pgm KEY200 ????
Is dis da korrect complete name of the pgm?

TIA
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The Libretto has a color screen (and a good one it is!). I find that
I would like my Libretto less well if it had a `smaller footprint'
as the keys are only borderline tolerable as it is, and smaller would
be `worse' (for me) not `better'. I find my Libretto a very pleasant
companion of (*not* a replacement for) my 200Lx. What's good about
the 200Lx is PIMs, Battery Life and Instant On. What's good about
the Libretto is huge HDD, full `desktop' software, great screen.
Excellent complements to one another...

ÝAn aside: Your messages come thru to me all strung out on a
line. I find them hard to read this way.¨

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>
> "What are you looking for?"
> Good Question.  I'm looking to ADD to rather than replace my HP200LX.  Primarily, I'm looking for a screen for "major work" that will be easier on my eyes over a period of several hours (without having to carry a laptop).  I travel 4-5 days a week.
> I've looked at the Libretto 100.  Looks like a great machine for the size, but was interested in something with a color screen, smaller footprint, and full DOS compatibility.  I thought the IBM PC110 might be a perfect companion to my HP200LX (which I'll NEVER part with!).
> An further thoughts?
> Chuck Sutherland

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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, al chin wrote:

> Where do one gets this pgm KEY200 ????
> Is dis da korrect complete name of the pgm?

Look in d:\bin on your LX.

Ted Heise        West Lafayette, IN, USA

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If you can find Quatropro 5.0 for DOS, you will have something.  It is a real
multipage spread sheet that runs just fine, although a double speed machine
with extra memory would be a plus.  Highly recommended, if you can find it.

Lynn M. Cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:51:07 -0500
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I posted earlier regarding a DOS driver for the DriveSpace compression used
by Windows. I (RTFM) read the help file of it. Turns out, it can read/use
the compressed volumes of Disk Space (DOS 6.0ish)
So, I thought I would tackle my question myself. I got my old trusty DOS 6.0
disks out of the attic. Uh oh. Even after a extensive session with Norton
Disk Doctor, nothing but General Failures across the board.
Oh well, I tried. But someone could either point me to a location of the DOS
6.0 Disk Space -or- if interested, pick up where I left off, I am probally
not the only one with this question.

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I'll take a copy.
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:57:23 -0600
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Hey Ted;

"Key200 is in d:\bin on your LX."

Ahhhhh soooo
One can do pedal too fast.
Thanks a bunch.

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"I find that I would like my Libretto less well if
it had a `smaller footprint' as the keys are only
borderline tolerable as it is, and smaller would
be `worse' (for me) not `better'.

As it is, the keys ARE bigger than LX, no?  The
whole thing is bigger and heavier than the LX.
As much as most people like it, no one will give
up the LX for it.  Hmmmmmmmm.  but it comes
close.  yet if you miss a target by a cm yu miss
the target.

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> "I find that I would like my Libretto less well if
> it had a `smaller footprint' as the keys are only
> borderline tolerable as it is, and smaller would
> be `worse' (for me) not `better'.
>
> As it is, the keys ARE bigger than LX, no?  The
> whole thing is bigger and heavier than the LX.
> As much as most people like it, no one will give
> up the LX for it.  Hmmmmmmmm.  but it comes
> close.  yet if you miss a target by a cm yu miss
> the target.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
>

Missing your target by a cm depends on what you are throwing, horse
shoes or hand grenaids. :-)

Pete

Peter W. Borders

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Tidewater Community College
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Saw this scanner at EXP website.

http://www.expnet.com/product.nsf/a675c0cf2e2bf6a7882564b200723411/166da3=
8b85d3c975882564d50014a30c?OpenDocument

Works in DOS.  But draws 460mA/5V thru PCMCIA slot, so may need 200lx to =
be plugged in. Your thoughts?

        Richard

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Thought I'd follow up to my previous post about a CPACK error regarding
interrupts 7Eh and 7Fh.  Turns out the CPACK installation works if I
start APP200 through the .PIF file.  I only get the error message when
I run it directly from the Command Prompt using the .BAT file.  If I
get real curious, I could probably track down the offending setting.
But I don' think I've ever had this problem with my Windows NT and 95
installations of CPACK.  Well, if this is only problem Win98 gives me,
then I'm livin' right...

-Chris

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I just had a cool IR keyboard land on my desk today. It looks like a =
standard commercial product called the "Freeboard by Sejin". Full size =
keyboard, nice feel, lots of function keys, and it runs off 2 AAA =
batteries (no idea for how long). 11" long x 5.5" deep x .5" thick =
(except the battery compartment at 1" thick). The IR comes out the back, =
but out a domed shaped glass that would probably work in front and to =
the right of the 200lx. Looks like a really nice alternative to the =
Newton keyboard.

What I don't know is what IR format it uses. Anybody got a great idea =
for figuring out what data's coming out and in what format? Afraid I =
can't be sending this keyboard anywhere though, so its gotta be =
something I can do in my software lab.

rick

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I just had a cool IR =
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function=20
keys, and it runs off 2 AAA batteries (no idea for how long). 11" =
long x=20
5.5" deep x .5" thick (except the battery compartment at =
1"=20
thick). The IR comes out the back, but out a domed shaped glass that =
would=20
probably work in front and to the right of the 200lx. Looks like a =
really nice=20
alternative to the Newton keyboard.


 


What I don't know is =
what IR format=20
it uses. Anybody got a great idea for figuring out what data's coming =
out and in=20
what format? Afraid I can't be sending this keyboard anywhere though, so =
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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:37:27 -0500
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Um, 4-6 times a hp200lx? I've heard of ppl getting pc110's for
$300-$400, surely you're not telling me that hp200lx's only
cost $100 now?
(pc110 'core' system, no pcmcia type3 hdd, no floppy, jsut
the 4mb flash ram and 8mb ram)
of course, if I could fit an off-line www browser and a bunch
of www documents and email on a pc110, that's what I'd buy :P
(on the 4mb flash ram)

     -James, N9XLC
     -jrhall@globalsite.net
     -certified NERD
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Date:    Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:57:59 -0800
From:    Tony Olsen 
Subject: Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?

The PC-110 is more powerful, VGA graphics, Sound Blaster sound, etc... but
it's larger, heavier, costs 4-6 times as much as the 200LX, shorter battery
life.  I think each palmtop has its own special abilities that attract its
own group of individuals, but for me, I preffer the Toshiba Libretto in one
hand, and the 200LX in the other hand... the best of both worlds. =)  (The
Libretto 70CT, with P-120MMX, 1GB+, 32MB, etc, costs the same as a PC-110
with a 486-33SX, 300MB, 24MB, etc.  The only drawback is that my Libretto
50CT doesn't record sound).

I guess it depends what you're looking for. =)  ...so.... what are you
looking for? =)

                Tony

-----Original Message-----
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Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:34 AM
Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?


>"I had a PC-110 and 200LX together for a while, and the connectivity"
>
>Would you recommend the PC-110?
>Where is US version available?
>Did the NetMeeting sound quality hold up? (I understood the modem speed was
only 2400 baud...correct?)
>Chuck Sutherland
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Chris
Can you elaborate more?  You put a line in a
PIF file?  What line?  Better still, do us all a
favor and write up the whole proc as there
are always people asking about the same
problem.  I always use cpack in DOS.
It'd be nice of you to get CURIOUS :)

TIA.
Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Rick
It's got a little half inch peg/joy stick on the right
for a mouse?  I had it for about six months now.
Bought it for $60 at the spring COMDEX.
Works like a charm.  Still ain't figured out how
to work the top row of buttons yet.  Maybe next year.
Never need/miss them.

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Well after approximately a week of searching the internet for DOS fax
software and trying set-ups and advice of other kind souls here on the list,
I have come to the conclusion that I can not fax reliably from my 200LX with
a XJ1144 modem :( It's really strange, no matter what software I use I can
not get reliable connections on a consistent basis. It was not until
recently that I had the need for mobile faxing from the LX and always
assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, and it wasn't with my ThinFax modem
with built-in ROM software. I just can't understand what the problem is, I
assume that the X Jack modem is finicky in regards to the LX. The X Jack
worked flawlessly with my old Newton MP120 & MP130's fax software.... I just
wish it would work on the LX.

73 Jeff


    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
    |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
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al chin wrote:
>
> "I find that I would like my Libretto less well if
> it had a `smaller footprint' as the keys are only
> borderline tolerable as it is, and smaller would
> be `worse' (for me) not `better'.
>
> As it is, the keys ARE bigger than LX, no?  The
> whole thing is bigger and heavier than the LX.
> As much as most people like it, no one will give
> up the LX for it.  Hmmmmmmmm.  but it comes
> close.  yet if you miss a target by a cm yu miss
> the target.
>
> Semper mobilis,
> yor pal al :-) .............
>
I disagree, Al. Both the Libretto and the 200Lx `miss the target'.
Indeed, hitting my target is impossible, as it is always moving.
Sometimes I need the small size, sometimes I need instant on, sometimes
I need Windows, ...

I'm afraid that if I had to give up either my 200Lx or my Libretto,
the 200Lx would go. Fortunately, no one has forced me to make that
choice, and in this case 1 + 1 adds up to a good deal more than 2....

(I am finding, by the way, that I almost never take out my Palm Pilot.
It may be that I am too familiar with the 200 and too ignorant of the
wonderful possibilities of the Palm---but for me, the Palm just about
*never* wins over the 200...)

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>
> Anyone have the full desktop version, not the hp version. I want to try =
the
> mouse files out with aol and sprint net. Tx Roy
>
I do have the AOL 1.6 files somewhere but doubt if they are
of any help to you since sprintnet has quit service for DOS
AOL in spring.

HP

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Can I get a copy too? =)

                Tony =)

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Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 9:30 AM
Subject: Star Trek-ish game... Argonaut!


>If anyone wants it, I ahve a tiny, tiny space game called Argonaut,
>it is shareware/freeware (got it off of a shareware cd), it is 43-46k
>in size just for the executable and the text file is around 7k. all you
>need to run it is the executable. According to the text file it's possible
>to contact the author (if his addy is still right, he might have moved and
>this program is a little old) to get the Turbo Pascal (3.02) source code
for
>the game.
>
>     -James, N9XLC
>     -jrhall@globalsite.net
>     -certified NERD
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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:38:55 +1100
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> my 200Lx or my Libretto,

I was thinking that logically, your next step from Libretto to 200lx would
be a palm pilot (or one of those PCIMA Rex's). Then I read:

> (I am finding, by the way, that I almost never take out my Palm Pilot.
> It may be that I am too familiar with the 200 and too ignorant of the
> wonderful possibilities of the Palm---but for me, the Palm just about
> *never* wins over the 200...)

I am very interested in your experience of favouring the lx: AFAICS,
the biggest distinction is pen entry vs keyboard. Aside from learning
the funny pen strokes, I suspect that keyboard entry is both faster and
easier: no need to get a pen out; both need two hands (pilot+pen; or
hold-and-thumbs for lx); but typing is faster than **clear** writing. I
can scribble faster than I can type, but it's not (machine) readable .

Despite all this, I find it *much* easier to scribble ideas and notes down
(on paper) than to type into the lx. You can draw arrows, underline easily,
set out spacially graphically etc etc.


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PS Obviously, the conveniently small size of the pilot is dependent on
the design choice of pen entry over keyboard. Though the Newton has pen
entry, but is *huge*. (no offence to any Newtonians out there).

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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:44:08 -0800
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The PC-110's I saw were going for $1200-1700... that's about 4-6 times what
the HPLX's are going for.

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Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:39 PM
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>Um, 4-6 times a hp200lx? I've heard of ppl getting pc110's for
>$300-$400, surely you're not telling me that hp200lx's only
>cost $100 now?
>(pc110 'core' system, no pcmcia type3 hdd, no floppy, jsut
>the 4mb flash ram and 8mb ram)
>of course, if I could fit an off-line www browser and a bunch
>of www documents and email on a pc110, that's what I'd buy :P
>(on the 4mb flash ram)
>
>     -James, N9XLC
>     -jrhall@globalsite.net
>     -certified NERD
>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:57:59 -0800
>From:    Tony Olsen 
>Subject: Re: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?
>
>The PC-110 is more powerful, VGA graphics, Sound Blaster sound, etc... but
>it's larger, heavier, costs 4-6 times as much as the 200LX, shorter battery
>life.  I think each palmtop has its own special abilities that attract its
>own group of individuals, but for me, I preffer the Toshiba Libretto in one
>hand, and the 200LX in the other hand... the best of both worlds. =)  (The
>Libretto 70CT, with P-120MMX, 1GB+, 32MB, etc, costs the same as a PC-110
>with a 486-33SX, 300MB, 24MB, etc.  The only drawback is that my Libretto
>50CT doesn't record sound).
>
>I guess it depends what you're looking for. =)  ...so.... what are you
>looking for? =)
>
>                Tony
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Charles E. Sutherland 
>To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
>Date: Thursday, October 29, 1998 6:34 AM
>Subject: Have any of you spent some time with the IBM PC110?
>
>
>>"I had a PC-110 and 200LX together for a while, and the connectivity"
>>
>>Would you recommend the PC-110?
>>Where is US version available?
>>Did the NetMeeting sound quality hold up? (I understood the modem speed
was
>only 2400 baud...correct?)
>>Chuck Sutherland
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Date:         Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:29:17 -0600
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Hi Jeff,

Have you tried Acefax?  Let me know and I'll send you the URL.


hth,

Claud

On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:05:35 -0600, Jeff Johns  wrote:

> Well after approximately a week of searching the internet for DOS fax
> software and trying set-ups and advice of other kind souls here on the =
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$125 for 131meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
> >adaptor card.
> >
> >$150 for 170meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
> >adaptor card.
> >
> >I will take $250 for both

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I also have the Keystone card for sale if anyone else is interested.

$125 for 131meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
> >adaptor card.
> >
> >$150 for 170meg pcmcia Type III HD card with a/c adaptor and pcmcia
> >adaptor card.
> >
> >I will take $250 for both.


s christi wrote:
>
> I'm preparing to move and I have various accessories for the 100/200LX for
> sale cheap.
>         e.g. Greystone PA-70 PCMCIA type II to type III adaptor w/powersupply
>                JetEye Infra-red transceiver for the desktop or printer, ect.
> If anyone is interested email and we can dicuss how to send it etc.
> Thanks!
> Steve
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zot2u@earthlink.net has ACEFAX
original software and manual $60 firm.

Microsoft Windows 3.0 original disks $15.





R. Christopher Lott wrote:
>
> > I'm curious what LX users that fax from their LX's use as far as software is
> > related? I realize that the fax software included on the ThinFax cards
> > probably works the best, but this isn't an option for me, since I sold my
> > ThinFax modem. Can anyone comment or suggest some of the other available fax
> > software that runs well on the LX?
>
> Jeff:
>
> I use ACEFAX, which came with my Modem (Megahertz XJ1144) which I bought
> through ACE.  Don't know how one can get this software these days.
> Seems like there was some discussion in the past about who owns rights to
> the old ACE programs.  Perhaps someone more knowledgable will pipe up...
>
> -Chris
>
> --
>
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am very interested in your experience of favouring the lx: AFAICS,
> the biggest distinction is pen entry vs keyboard. Aside from learning
> the funny pen strokes, I suspect that keyboard entry is both faster and
> easier: no need to get a pen out; both need two hands (pilot+pen; or
> hold-and-thumbs for lx); but typing is faster than **clear** writing. I
> can scribble faster than I can type, but it's not (machine) readable .
>
Typing on the 200 is certainly way faster for me than the Palm, even
after learning the `funny pen strokes' pretty well. For me typing is
also a lot faster than writing (clear or not), but that's only
when typing on a desktop keyboard. I'd say my 200Lx input speed is
detectably faster than on the Palm.
>
> Despite all this, I find it *much* easier to scribble ideas and notes down
> (on paper) than to type into the lx. You can draw arrows, underline easily,
> set out spacially graphically etc etc.
>
Certainly. On the other hand it takes me a lot longer to paw through
the several thousand little scraps of paper that are scattered all
over my house than it does to get any of my computers to search
lots of megabytes.
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au             Tel: +61 03  9905 5194
>  Law thesis (pdf, ps)  tiattsiawcoms  www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html

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zot2u@earthlink.net has ACEFAX
original software and manual $60 firm.

Microsoft Windows 3.0 original disks $15.

Jeff Johns wrote:
>
> Well after approximately a week of searching the internet for DOS fax
> software and trying set-ups and advice of other kind souls here on the list,
> I have come to the conclusion that I can not fax reliably from my 200LX with
> a XJ1144 modem :( It's really strange, no matter what software I use I can
> not get reliable connections on a consistent basis. It was not until
> recently that I had the need for mobile faxing from the LX and always
> assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, and it wasn't with my ThinFax modem
> with built-in ROM software. I just can't understand what the problem is, I
> assume that the X Jack modem is finicky in regards to the LX. The X Jack
> worked flawlessly with my old Newton MP120 & MP130's fax software.... I just
> wish it would work on the LX.
>
> 73 Jeff
>
>     =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jeff Johns KF4KGQ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>     |jeffj@scott.net kf4kgq@amsat.org |     Reserve Patrol Captain      |
>     |    Satellite: MIR (R0MIR-1)     | Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept |
>     |200LX+BayPac+FT50=Portable Packet|     QTH Birmingham, AL USA      |
>     =-=-=-=-=-=- Packet AX.25 KF4KGQ@wd4epr.#bhm.al.usa.noam -=-=-=-=-=-=
>
> Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v2.22beta) REGISTERED
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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:33:18 EDT
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> While sifting through my old disks last month, I came across Excel 2.01 =
an
> decided to install it on my 200LX as a run-time application (no Windows
> desktop).
>
> I installed it first on an old PS/2 Model 30 under DOS 3.3, then copied =
it
> over to the 200LX via a nullmodem serial cable. But when I tried to run =
it
> on the 200LX, it barfed with the message "Wrong DOS version".
>

Look for a leetle programme called setverm.  You just call it once from
autoexec and it magically gets rid of all(most) version conflicts. People
use it when running Win 2.03 on the lx.

Darren.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:33:27 EDT
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> I just had a cool IR keyboard land on my desk today. It looks like a

...

> What I don't know is what IR format it uses. Anybody got a great idea
> for figuring out what data's coming out and in what format? Afraid I
> can't be sending this keyboard anywhere though, so its gotta be
> something I can do in my software lab.
>
> rick
>
Try this:

Set up the built in comm prog for IR. Then shoot the keyboard into the =
LX.
It may take a bit of experimentation, but it is likely that the output =
from
the keyboard is serial, and at a low baud - like 2400 or 1200. You =
probably
will see actual dot-dash patterns with 7 or 8 bits each going across the
screen with a unique pattern for each key. This is what I get from lots =
of
tv remotes.

>From this you should be able to determine the correct settings for the =
com
port and use mode to set it up. Beyond that, I don't have the skills to =
make
a TSR to grab the comport data and send it to the keyboard buffer.

Darren.

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> Saw this scanner at EXP website.
>
> http://www.expnet.com/product.nsf/a675c0cf2e2bf6a7882564b200723411/166da=
3
> 8b85d3c975882564d50014a30c?OpenDocument
>
> Works in DOS.  But draws 460mA/5V thru PCMCIA slot, so may need 200lx =
to
> be plugged in. Your thoughts?
>
>         Richard
>

Thats too much current draw. It would probably work if the pcmcia version =
is
2.0 and not 2.01, but the LX would get hot and the screen would fade and
you'd probably burn out the LX's internal power converter prematurely.
Sounds like a doable thing for those who have a doubleslot, which has =
it's
own power supply.

Darren.

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Folks,

I'm looking at an old copy of the Palmtop paper Best Tips 1995.  There is
an ad for "Project Kick Start".
Is anyone on the list using it?  I wonder if it can export to CA-Super
Project 2.0?

Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp
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Where did you see this PC card?

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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:00:12 +1100
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I think South Park would be perfect for an lx video!

The graphics are simple, so it should compress well; and I think you
could get the gist of the swearing despite it being distorted.

I'm hoping this will inspire someone who doesn't have exams right now .
A short snippet of Cartman being selfish?

"I can't possibly eat all this delicious chocolate cake all by myself
Ýlong pause¨ oh, maybe I can"

It would be very cool.

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>I purchased a SimpleTech compact flash, 48 meg and found my battery life=

>went down to about 1 hour.  (According to ABC/LX battery usage timer).
>
>I then had the merchant send me a Viking card and have found the same
>results.
>
>I was wondering how the Sandisk compact cards are.  If I switch to that
one,

I have a 10Mb Sandisk compact. Long battery life and I have never had
any problems with it. Also works fine for data transfer from my Toshiba
Libretto 50.

Jorgen

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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:56:08 +0800
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While checking my HPLX links I came
across the following that I added in a couple of
months ago....
thought the followers might be interested 8-)

http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html

Best regards......Liam

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>I'm looking at an old copy of the Palmtop paper Best Tips 1995.
There is
>an ad for "Project Kick Start".
>Is anyone on the list using it?  I wonder if it can export to
CA-Super
>Project 2.0?


Damn..... I was just looking at a site selling this program last
week....thought I had bookmarked the site.... to many bookmarks
thats the problem 8-).  Have you done a web search?

They were selling it for $39.95 If I remember rightly, was thinking
about investing until I came across MS Project (DOS) disks,
however they are on some sort of large soft floppy disk that
is totally alien to all the PC's I have access to 8-).

Regards.....Liam

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I own a Megahertz XJ1144 modem. The user reference guide says
for models XJ1144, XJ124FM, CC3144, CC4144:

130mA operating mode
 40mA standby mode
 15mA sleep mode

for models XJ2288, CC3288 the guide states:

275mA connected
 30mA sleep mode

I cannot power down my XJ1144 with LXCIC, because the modem has
no FCSR register available. One bit in this register allows to
power down a PCMCIA card. However I doubt that the existence of
the FCSR register and the availability of this special power
down bit really has effect on the power consumption of a modem.
It depends on what the modem does internally if this bit is
deleted. LXCIC can neither look into the modem nor measure it's
power consumption, it can only monitor the interface.

Don't let you fool by LXCIC's statement 'powered down'. This
only means that a FCSR register is available and that the power
down bit reacts, that is, if I delete the bit, the card accepts
it. To be sure about the power consumption in this mode, you
have to do your own measurement.

If the user refernce guide is right (why should it be wrong?)
the XJ1144 has operating/standby/sleep modes. Maybe it enters/
leaves these states internally using it's own timers. But maybe
you can set these states using special AT commands, the guide
states nothing about that. Some investigation at Megahertz
required!

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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 zot2u@earthlink.net wrote:

> Where did you see this PC card?
>
Check website at: www.newmediacorp.com/basics/bgp.html


Dave Sprinkle - dsprinkl@indiana.edu
Indiana University Physics Dept.
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Hi All,

OK, I'm going to be getting one of these new compact flashcards in the near
future. I checked and figure that right now everything I want to put on my
200LX totals about 23 meg worth of files. (Of course, too much flash space
is never enough)

Based on what I've been reading here's the way it looks:

Card Maker      Speed   Power Consumption               Cost/MB
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------
Sandisk         OK              Lower                           A little more (right now 30 meg ~ $260)

Simple Tech     Fast            Higher                          A little less (right now 48 meg ~ $200)
 or Viking

Quotes from HPLX ML:

Tim Shephard: "I purchased a SimpleTech compact flash, 48 meg and found my
battery life
went down to about 1 hour.  (According to ABC/LX battery usage timer)."

Jorgen Dybdahl: "I have a 10Mb Sandisk compact. Long battery life
..............."

I can't decide if the extra megs is a better deal given the decrease in
battery life.
The above reduction in battery life would be too extreme for me.

So what's the opinions of some of you who already own or have used CF cards
from these manufacturers?

Thanks, Owen



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the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400.

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Hi,

The problem is that my company is big with offices all over the world and
our servers do not support BOOTP and it will be impossible for me to try
to implement it. Ok, I can get an IP address to use in my office. But I =
need
DHCP support in order to make my 200LX and Accton card useful, since I =
often
visit our offices in Asia Pacific. So if I had DHCP support, I just need =
to
plug in my palmtop in any of our offices network and then I get my =
e-mail.

Thanks and Regards,


Jorgen


> Jorgen Wallgren  wrote:
> > all over the world, I would like to be able to get a server assigned =
IP
> > address- DHCP (we are not using BOOTP). First then this setup will be
>
> If you think you can do BOOTP on the palmtop, ask your network
> administrator(s).  It's possible for DHCP servers to support BOOTP
> clients (server software and local administrative policy permitting),
> but support for BOOTP clients isn't required.  Details in RFC 1534.
>
> -Frank McConnell
>
> =C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=
=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=
=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=
=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4=C4
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Jeff,

Have you tried BGFAX with FAXGUI on SUPER (www.palmtop.net)? I had the =
same
problems as you until that day when I found BGFAX- have never failed me =
and
that's for more than 100 sent faxes and mybe about 40 received- using =
XJ1144
modem!

Regards,

Jorgen


> Well after approximately a week of searching the internet for DOS fax
> software and trying set-ups and advice of other kind souls here on the =
list,
> I have come to the conclusion that I can not fax reliably from my 200LX =
with
> a XJ1144 modem :( It's really strange, no matter what software I use I =
can
> not get reliable connections on a consistent basis. It was not until
> recently that I had the need for mobile faxing from the LX and always
> assumed that it wouldn't be a problem, and it wasn't with my ThinFax =
modem
> with built-in ROM software. I just can't understand what the problem =
is, I
> assume that the X Jack modem is finicky in regards to the LX. The X =
Jack
> worked flawlessly with my old Newton MP120 & MP130's fax software.... I =
just
> wish it would work on the LX.
>
> 73 Jeff

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I have an XJ1144 as well.  If you figure this out, let me know,
and I will do likewise!  Thanks

Brian S

At 10:57 AM 10/30/98 +0000, you wrote:
>I own a Megahertz XJ1144 modem. The user reference guide says
>for models XJ1144, XJ124FM, CC3144, CC4144:
>
>130mA operating mode
> 40mA standby mode
> 15mA sleep mode

~ Text Deleted ~


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              29, 98 08:39:14 pm
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Al:

> Can you elaborate more?  You put a line in a
> PIF file?  What line?  Better still, do us all a
> favor and write up the whole proc as there
> are always people asking about the same
> problem.  I always use cpack in DOS.

I'll "write down" the procedure here.  It's very simple - sorry if
I didn't make it clear when I wrote last night.  When I first tried
out the program, I had done a brand new install from the CPACK floppies
on my Windows 98 system.  I would then type, from a DOS Command Box,
the command APP200, which would invoke the file APP200.BAT.  This
generated the error message that I reported.

What I did to fix this was to create a shortcut from the desktop,
and point the shortcut to the APP200.PIF file that is provided with
the normal CPACK installation.  This worked.  I didn't make any
changes at all to the default .PIF settings provided by HP.

> It'd be nice of you to get CURIOUS :)

I'll look into this over the weekend and see what I can figure out.
I suspect that there is some setting I can change in my default DOS
box that will make APP200.BAT work from the command line.

-Chris


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For a lot more info on the Lego Mindstorms, check out the official site:

http://www.legomindstorms.com

Bring a modern browser as it has some really cool features.

Mitch
SUPER Team

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Liam,

Thanks for the tip. I recently bought the MindStorms package and this sounds
like fun.




Thanks,

Systems Consulting
89 Main Street
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Ýmailto:owner-hplx-l@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Liam M. Early
Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 2:56 AM
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Subject: Another interesting HPLX use(r)!


While checking my HPLX links I came
across the following that I added in a couple of
months ago....
thought the followers might be interested 8-)

http://www.magicnet.net/~twdow/mindstorms.html

Best regards......Liam

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              Owen Samuelson 
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At 06:26 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>OK, I'm going to be getting one of these new compact flashcards in the near
>future.
>
>Based on what I've been reading here's the way it looks:
>
>Card Maker      Speed   Power Consumption               Cost/MB
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--------
>Sandisk         OK              Lower                           A little
more (right now 30 meg ~ $260)
>
>Simple Tech     Fast            Higher                          A little
less (right now 48 meg ~ $200)
> or Viking
>
Boy, pricewatch.com sure is great. I found the SANDISK 48meg compact flash
for $194.16 and adapter for  $7.81.  Did a page print and handed it to my
wife as my Christmas wish list!

Owen



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Amateur call: KU4ET

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the turn of the century. Then it has to be divisible by 400.

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                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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I have tried this but I can't find out a way to sync the data being
"broadcasted" from the keyboard and sort out which bit is the start bit,
the data, parity, and the stop bit(s).  I have tried two IR keyboards
and so far I can't find a way to read the stream of data using a
standard serial configuration.

I don't think the format used by (at least my two) IR keyboards is
"serial" compatible, there's no pause between each character sent to
delimit the beginning and end of a packet.

Phil



>Set up the built in comm prog for IR. Then shoot the keyboard into the LX.
>It may take a bit of experimentation, but it is likely that the output from
>the keyboard is serial, and at a low baud - like 2400 or 1200. You probably
>will see actual dot-dash patterns with 7 or 8 bits each going across the
>screen with a unique pattern for each key. This is what I get from lots of
>tv remotes.
>
>
>
>Darren.
>

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> I have tried this but I can't find out a way to sync the data being
> "broadcasted" from the keyboard and sort out which bit is the start bit,
> the data, parity, and the stop bit(s).  I have tried two IR keyboards
> and so far I can't find a way to read the stream of data using a
> standard serial configuration.

I don't have any knowledge of the particular format under discussion,
but keep in mind that standard asynchronous serial data stream may
contain characters jam packed against one another, within the limits
imposed by the STOP BITS parameter, typically set these days to 1.
If a UART is so configured, the data stream, when viewed on an oscope
for example, would appear to be continuous stream of bits.  One trying
to receive this data would have to know the data word size, typically
8 bits, and it's a matter of counting off bits.  Prior to any data at
all, the link will be in the MARK state (think of MARKing time).  The
first character causes a START bit, 8 data bits, then a STOP bit all of
one bit-time length.  For the START bit, the link will always be in
the SPACE state, opposite of MARK.  Data then follows, sense is typically
logic "1" is MARK, logic "0" is SPACE.  But this CAN be inverted in some
data links.  The STOP bit, really not a bit at all, is the link returning
to the MARK state for a specified time to allow the receiving circuitry
time to reset and get ready for the next character.  Does knowing this, if
you didn't already, help decode the data stream you are seeing?

-Chris "I Just LOVE To Talk About Serial Links" Lott


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Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> I have tried this but I can't find out a way to sync the data being
> "broadcasted" from the keyboard and sort out which bit is the start bit,
> the data, parity, and the stop bit(s).  I have tried two IR keyboards
> and so far I can't find a way to read the stream of data using a
> standard serial configuration.
>
> I don't think the format used by (at least my two) IR keyboards is
> "serial" compatible, there's no pause between each character sent to
> delimit the beginning and end of a packet.

I have been watching this thread and wonder if a programmer could use
the
Newton keyboard driver to build a driver for the IR keyboard. The Newton
keyboard uses serial data out, probably in a manner similar to the IR
keyboard.

I have been hoarding a new IBM PC jr keyboard for such a project. It has
IR ports
on it but I havn't been able to find any information on it.
--
73

Nick Marsh
WB4SQI

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              "LYNN CAVENDISH, AIR-2.3.1.2" 
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Ebay has a PC110 on auction right now.  Closes tonight.  Current bid is $450,
and the reserve is met.  Hardly 6 times a 200LX price.

Lynn M. Cavendish

Um, 4-6 times a hp200lx? I've heard of ppl getting pc110's for
$300-$400, surely you're not telling me that hp200lx's only
cost $100 now?
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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:
> 3.) Is Excel on the palmtop really worth it, considering that all I'm
> really looking for is somewhat better-formatted conversions of my Office 98
> spreadsheets?
>
It really runs pretty well for me under Win 3.0.  In fact, I think it runs
faster than Lotus 123, at least in scrolling, although pop-up dialogs are
pretty slow.  However, I find that I use Lotus almost exclusively because
of the delay it takes to boot up Excel and the way Excel requires a whole
lot of ALT-LETTER combinations to select menus, etc when you're running it
without a mouse.  Generally, I think that Lotus is faster to USE since
it's designed for a keyboard interface.  I would probably use Excel more
often if I had Software Carousel and a lot of RAM so I could keep it
running all the time.  There are definitely times when having more than
one spreadsheet open at a time would be very nice.

Cheers.
J. P. Grenert
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>It's got a little half inch peg/joy stick on the right
>for a mouse?

My version has channel and volume buttons at the top right.

>Bought it for $60 at the spring COMDEX.
>Works like a charm.

works where?

rick

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Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
this guy out, please do.


Thanks.



------ response to John

I bought a few $10 card readers a few weeks ago. They come with no
drivers but windows 95 loads drivers that work with it. It uses the
Vadem chip set. I was able to use flash cards and NIC cards with it. I
will submit a copy of your letter to the HP 200LX mailing list. The
cards were discussed there and that's where I got the link.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Garner Ýmailto:garner@wport.com¨
> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:44 AM
> To: Libretto
> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA cards? (for
> wireless network cards)
>
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:43:25 -0800
> From: "John Garner" 
> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA
> cards? (for wireless network cards)
>
> There was a source earlier this year - if anyone knows of it please
> email me or put it up in the group.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John G.
>
>

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This is a nice concise description of serial but...
the keyboard(s) I am messing with don't ever give you the "Prior to any
data at
all, the link will be in the MARK state (think of MARKing time)."
advantage.  They _allways_ transmit a stream of data.  I think the
problem is that these keyboards use some sort of continuous, synchronous
format and derive keypress information by looking for pre-established
shifts in the continuous stream.

I can't think of a better idea than a wireless external keyboard for my
palmtop, but so far I'm still wishing... :)

Phil


>
>I don't have any knowledge of the particular format under discussion,
>but keep in mind that standard asynchronous serial data stream may
>contain characters jam packed against one another, within the limits
>imposed by the STOP BITS parameter, typically set these days to 1.
>If a UART is so configured, the data stream, when viewed on an oscope
>for example, would appear to be continuous stream of bits.  One trying
>to receive this data would have to know the data word size, typically
>8 bits, and it's a matter of counting off bits.  Prior to any data at
>all, the link will be in the MARK state (think of MARKing time).  The
>first character causes a START bit, 8 data bits, then a STOP bit all of
>one bit-time length.  For the START bit, the link will always be in
>the SPACE state, opposite of MARK.  Data then follows, sense is typically
>logic "1" is MARK, logic "0" is SPACE.  But this CAN be inverted in some
>data links.  The STOP bit, really not a bit at all, is the link returning
>to the MARK state for a specified time to allow the receiving circuitry
>time to reset and get ready for the next character.  Does knowing this, if
>you didn't already, help decode the data stream you are seeing?
>
>-Chris "I Just LOVE To Talk About Serial Links" Lott
>
>

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I actually have several IR keyboards that I have played with.  I eventually
found out that most adhere to the IRDA standard which the palmtop does not
adhere to. It might be possible to read them correctly if the IRDA standard
could be emulated on the palmtop.

Cheers,
Mack

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You speak about scribbling ideas and notes down on paper.  I
like to do the same, but wish I could take all of them with
me in some organized fashion.  To that end, I have been
considering trying the Crosspad product that allows you to
write on regular paper on top of an electronic notebook with
a special pen that saves the electronic image for upload to
a PC.  The electronic tablet holds 50 pages. I was thinking
I could then load the images in some compatible format (or
OCR them) to a big PCMCIA card for reference on my 200LX.

Does anyone have any experience with this Crosspad product?
Does this sound reasonable?

Thanks.
Jeff MacDowell.......jmacd@usa.net



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> my 200Lx or my Libretto,

I was thinking that logically, your next step from Libretto
to 200lx would
be a palm pilot (or one of those PCIMA Rex's). Then I read:

> (I am finding, by the way, that I almost never take out my
Palm Pilot.
> It may be that I am too familiar with the 200 and too
ignorant of the
> wonderful possibilities of the Palm---but for me, the Palm
just about
> *never* wins over the 200...)

I am very interested in your experience of favouring the lx:
AFAICS,
the biggest distinction is pen entry vs keyboard. Aside from
learning
the funny pen strokes, I suspect that keyboard entry is both
faster and
easier: no need to get a pen out; both need two hands
(pilot+pen; or
hold-and-thumbs for lx); but typing is faster than **clear**
writing. I
can scribble faster than I can type, but it's not (machine)
readable .

Despite all this, I find it *much* easier to scribble ideas
and notes down
(on paper) than to type into the lx. You can draw arrows,
underline easily,
set out spacially graphically etc etc.


--
Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au             Tel:
+61 03  9905 5194
 Law thesis (pdf, ps)  tiattsiawcoms
www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/thesis.html

PS Obviously, the conveniently small size of the pilot is
dependent on
the design choice of pen entry over keyboard. Though the
Newton has pen
entry, but is *huge*. (no offence to any Newtonians out
there).

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Tried the HP Connectivity Pack with my 200 LX. Not happy with results.  =
Anyone using a transfer software from HP to PC?  Pumateck's Intellisync?

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Tried the HP =
Connectivity Pack=20
with my 200 LX. Not happy with results.  Anyone using a transfer =
software=20
from HP to PC?  Pumateck's Intellisync?


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              "Stacy D. Coil" 
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I found mine at necx.com.

--Stacy


Thanks for your message at 10:50 AM 10/30/98 -0500, Ed Padin. Your message
was:
>Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
>adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
>the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
>the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
>this guy out, please do.
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>------ response to John
>
>I bought a few $10 card readers a few weeks ago. They come with no
>drivers but windows 95 loads drivers that work with it. It uses the
>Vadem chip set. I was able to use flash cards and NIC cards with it. I
>will submit a copy of your letter to the HP 200LX mailing list. The
>cards were discussed there and that's where I got the link.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Garner Ýmailto:garner@wport.com¨
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:44 AM
>> To: Libretto
>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA cards? (for
>> wireless network cards)
>>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:43:25 -0800
>> From: "John Garner" 
>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA
>> cards? (for wireless network cards)
>>
>> There was a source earlier this year - if anyone knows of it please
>> email me or put it up in the group.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> John G.
>>
>>
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I have this program, had it for years. I can't say it was too useful. I
suppose I never really allowed it to become my project shell. But is
does require a degree of submissiveness on user's part. One has to
follow computer's suggestions, answer questions, etc. I always found
this to be too constricting.

For me, it easier to lay out my projects in a wordprocessor.

NB: my projects are generally one person - me - projects, and may not have
the complexity that requires a specialized tool.

Mikhail

> I'm looking at an old copy of the Palmtop paper Best Tips 1995.  There is
> an ad for "Project Kick Start".
> Is anyone on the list using it?  I wonder if it can export to CA-Super
> Project 2.0?
>
> Patrick West , using OS/2 Warp

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I was going to suggest the link on:

     http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html

...but it seems to be broken. Actually, it's a pointer to an offsite file
on Jeff John's page:

     ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj

...but this link seems to be broken too. What's up Jeff? Have you abandoned
Abandonware?  :-)

I don't know what else to suggest, except to maybe start searching the web
for Abandonware or various other key words.

Good luck, and let us know what you come up with.

-----------------------
I want to install Windows 3.0 on my palmtop.  From the SLEEP.ZIP program
was
a file saying which Windows3.0 files are needed on the HP-LX.  I own 2
licenses for Windows 3.1, which I don't use, so I figure that it should
cover the license needed to own Windows 3.0.  Does anybody have Windows
3.0?

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Subject:      If I emailed you about Bicom260i, please contact me.

            Hello,

    I have just incidentally deleted a few e-mails. So if you were the
    one, whom I mailed about the Bicom B260i notebook, please contact
    me again. I will need to know your street address to send anyhow.

    Someone wrote about a PC card scanner. Well, that draws 460mA, 5V
    you said. But 150mA limit for HPLX still holds, even if using the
    AC wall adapter. Only way to use that should be a PCMCIA slot-
    doubler that has external power input, to provide juice for HDDs
    (TypeIII size) or power-hungry modems.
    But how that scanner works? Do you have to move the whole palmtop
    with card plugged in over the document as it has a one-line CCD?
    Or the optical component is external and connected by wire?

    I think you are better off with a digital camera. There were
    reports about quality text input using a camera. There is SW for
    most digital still cameras for DOS. And that is a general purpose
    accessory.

    Silly question: I think the fiasco of the Philips WinCE unit Velo1
    was partly because the round shaped buttons. I think round buttons
    were in serious use on the old 1890s Remington typewriters only.
    It is so obvious that they are bad for typing. Why is it getting
    popular again?

                    Sincerely: Tamas Feher.

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>> Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
> >anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
> >root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
> >phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat memory
> >space that's all ready "eaten".
>>
>> Phil
>
>That is _sick_, man. RAM is cheap now. That's, like, some kind of vic 20
>trick or something. Although... -- NO! I refuse to even think about it. =
>
>Darren.

Maybe you'll like my idea better, Darren. :-)

I thought perhaps someone (someone smarter than me, that is) could locate
the actual routine in the palmtop ROM that displays those little hypertext
Help pages, then build an app that uses this routine to display other
hypertext files.

Of course, there are wonderful hypertext readers already available on
SUPER, but since this routine is already *built-in* to our palmtops it
would be a neat hack to tap into it.

B.

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Subject:      Mouse...

I've noticed several posts that talk about running gui's such as GEM and
Win3.1.
Can you use a mouse with the LX??  If so, can you use it with the
standard apps?
I don't know that I'd want to use a mouse with my LX... just curious.

Steve

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This gave me the idea to find the file used for help on an application.
I selected the CMEMOUS.HLP file from the D:\_SYS directory and copied it
to the C:\_SYS directory. I then made a simple change to a text string.
I then opened the Memo application and selected Help from the pull down
menu.  Bingo! the change to the string was there!  It looks like the
same rule that allows applications to "find" files they use in the
C:\_sys directory (remember TOPCARD.PCX?) applies to the Help files as
well!  My next experiment will be to compose a help file that contains
my own content.  The last step will be to wrap my own file(s) in an EXM
compliant program that makes use of Bruce Martin's suggestion.


>
>I thought perhaps someone (someone smarter than me, that is) could locate
>the actual routine in the palmtop ROM that displays those little hypertext
>Help pages, then build an app that uses this routine to display other
>hypertext files.
>
>

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I just tried using the IR port as serial communications and here's what I
captured so far:

"1" key - 0x14 0x1c 0x54 0x1c 0x14 0x00
"2" key - 0x14 0x08 0x54 0x08 0x14 0x00
"3" key - 0x14 0x14 0x54 0x14 0x14 0x00
"4" key - 0x14 0x24 0x54 0x24 0x14 0x00
"5" key - 0x14 0x04 0x54 0x04 0x14 0x00

its a consistent 6 byte message, and the keyboard is silent when no key is
pressed. It looks like the sequence is 2 bytes key down, 2 bytes key up, 2
bytes no key pressed.

What I have noticed, however, is that the bit stream is not 100% consistent.
Some of the bits toggle apparently at random, but nothing that would cause
at least these 5 keys to look the same to a piece of software.

I need to write some software to let me collect the keypress data a little
more quickly.


>I actually have several IR keyboards that I have played with.  I eventually
>found out that most adhere to the IRDA standard which the palmtop does not
>adhere to. It might be possible to read them correctly if the IRDA standard
>could be emulated on the palmtop.
>
>Cheers,
>Mack
>


rick

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Which keyboard are you conducting tests on?

Phil

> and the keyboard is silent when no key is
>pressed. 

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In the last week or so there have been a couple of references
to reduced battery life for LXs upgraded to 32 or 64meg. 12 hours
has been quoted but that is sort of meaningless unless it can
be compared to what it use to be.  I currently use Lithiums and
get about 3 months from a set in my unmodified single speed
4meg 200lx.  I do use a 10meg flash card and when running
WWWLX on my expernal modem I am connected to the AC
adapter during that period.

I am strongly considering a 32 or 64meg 2nd 200lx but I won't
if the battery life will end up being measured in days or less.

Any comments?

Russ Brooks
=

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Most of the battery life comparisons are done using a program that
measures actual "on" time cumulatively.  BATTLOG is an example of one
such program. (thanks Grogao)
I have a clock doubled, 8meg 200LX and normally see between 24 and 30
hours of accumulated "on" time with 8 to 10 hours of serial port
operation. These times are with Eveready alkalines.  I only occasionally
use a flash card and never use my modem unless I'm attached to "adapter
power".  I have tried Radio Shack NiCads (high capacity) and NiMH cells.
 I get the longest run-time from the alkalines.

Phil

>  I currently use Lithiums and
>get about 3 months from a set in my unmodified single speed
>4meg 200lx.
>
>Russ Brooks
>

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 > - Icons: an arbitrary ICN file name may be supplied, it does not have to
 > be the same path as the executable

Try this: In the AppMgr menu, press F2 to Add. Rneter a
name, tab to the Path field. Enter the path and name of the ICON -
not the path an name of the application. Tab twice, confirm
the icon shows in the little window. DO NOT PRESS F10! Tab
twice, landing you back in the Path field. Now enter the
path and program name. Press F10. You can even DELETE the
icon from the palmtop.

This methodology has been outlined sometime in 1996, I
believe (file named ICONSET on CIS/HPHAND somewhere...) by
me and others.

 > - File associations: assign an Icon to a PDB file and Phone Book is
 > automatically opened with that file

Program DBL.COM was written in February 1995 to do exactly
that.


 > - Wild cards: a popup appears to select a file, and then the associated
 > application is launched (for different Phone Book files, for example)

Neat trick!

 > Unfortunately I am experiencing some lock-ups when I press an

Can't help there...

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What's the problem?  I've been using it for years,
not the best, but acceptable, and its the only one
of its kind.  There are other ways to transfer but
The connectivity pack is the only way (I know of) to
use the DBs on the desktop PC.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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>On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Bruce Martin wrote:
>> 3.) Is Excel on the palmtop really worth it, considering that all I'm
>> really looking for is somewhat better-formatted conversions of my Office
98
>> spreadsheets?
>>

>running all the time.  There are definitely times when having more than
>one spreadsheet open at a time would be very nice.
>Cheers.
>J. P. Grenert
>grenert@mayo.edu


Have you tried the lotus 123 add-in viewer? Grab a desktop version 2.4 and
extract viewer.123, viewer.adn, viewer.sym and viewer.txt (not a text file!)

Place these in your c:\_dat and 123 can use the viewer with /AA~I or you
can have it auto-load at startup (as I do)

Viewer allows you to view(!) and link and/or open other files and is less
than 100k for the four essential files. It is great when you have a swag
of 123 spreadsheets that you havn't opened/used for a while and you
just want to see what is what.

Relative to another posters comments on help file modification, is it
possible,
I wonder, to use the 123 desktop help file somehow? It is 7 times as big
as the built-in one and for those of us with the space/need, it could be
most a useful project...

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> - - - -
> 1.) How do I use SETVER? From command line or CONFIG.SYS? With what
> switches?
> - - - -

   You use the command line to configure it and CONFIG.SYS to use it.
Edited from the MS-DOS 6 help...

MS-DOS Help: SETVER

Displays the version table. Reports a version number (earlier than 6.0)
to programs or device drivers that were designed for earlier versions of
MS-DOS.

Syntax
     SETVER Ýdrive:path¨Ýfilename n.nn¨
     SETVER Ýdrive:path¨Ýfilename Ý/DELETE Ý/QUIET¨¨

SETVER Examples
     setver myprog.exe 3.30

MS-DOS Help: SETVER.EXE

Loads the MS-DOS version table into memory. This device driver must be
loaded by a  or  command in your CONFIG.SYS file.

Syntax
     DEVICE=Ýdrive:¨Ýpath¨SETVER.EXE

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Hmm, any more info on this?  I found some PCMCIA card
readers on NECX.COM, but they were all around $100.00
not $10.  I'd be very interested in a $10 adapter.  If you have
any more info, let me know. Thanks!

Brian S


At 11:30 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I found mine at necx.com.
>
>--Stacy
>
>Thanks for your message at 10:50 AM 10/30/98 -0500, Ed Padin. Your message
>was:
>>Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
>>adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
>>the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
>>the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
>>this guy out, please do.

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At 11:21 AM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>This gave me the idea to find the file used for help on an application.
>I selected the CMEMOUS.HLP file from the D:\_SYS directory and copied it
>to the C:\_SYS directory. I then made a simple change to a text string.
>I then opened the Memo application and selected Help from the pull down
>menu.  Bingo! the change to the string was there!  It looks like the
>same rule that allows applications to "find" files they use in the
>C:\_sys directory (remember TOPCARD.PCX?) applies to the Help files as
>well!  My next experiment will be to compose a help file that contains
>my own content.  The last step will be to wrap my own file(s) in an EXM
>compliant program that makes use of Bruce Martin's suggestion.
>
Phil, how did you edit the cmemous.hlp file to make the simple text change
to a string?

Owen



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Hi, if someone remembers this info and sends it on to you,
could you please forward it on to me as well?  Thanks!

Brian S

At 10:50 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
>adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
>the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
>the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
>this guy out, please do.


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I used Xtree Gold.  Xtree has an editor that can handle files full of
"non-text" stuff.

Phil


>Phil, how did you edit the cmemous.hlp file to make the simple text change
>to a string?
>
>Owen
>

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Don't know if they still have them, but I got a 40Meg from Marcan for
$159. So far it has been very good (and under $4/Mb)...

Lynn M. Cavendish wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> As a by the way,  I just saw a 40Meg card at Office Depot for $199.   Since
> you have 15 days, you might consider whether an extra 25Meg is worth $70 price
> increase.  You are paying  $7.93 per Meg.   The 40Meg card prices out at $4.98
> per Meg.  Or, the marginal cost of the additional 25Meg is $3.20 per meg.
>

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     "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit
data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key-
board.

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I apologize. My messages got out of order, and my reply below was to
an ancient message that I mistakenly thought (without looking carefully
at the date) was current. Sorry.

David Ness wrote:
>
> Don't know if they still have them, but I got a 40Meg from Marcan for
> $159. So far it has been very good (and under $4/Mb)...
>

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You can expect about a 25% reduction in battery life.

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Does anybody know of a database file (and where I could get it)  for
teachers to organize there classes, students grades, etc.?

Thank you,
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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> < if the battery life will end up being measured in days or less.
> You can expect about a 25% reduction in battery life.

I thought that was for the speed upgrade.  In my experience, the 32MB
upgrade hasn't taken much of my battery life away...

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David,

> < if the battery life will end up being measured in days or less.
> You can expect about a 25% reduction in battery life.

I thought that was for the speed upgrade.  In my experience, the 32MB
upgrade hasn't taken much of my battery life away...>>

My understanding from Mack's test some time ago that there was about a
10-15% reduction in 2speed and 10-15% reduction from the memory.  Now
that might have been with 8 meg.  I know Mack continues to improve his
product that we sell, and that he is conservative on his figures. Maybe
Mack will jump in.

Since I converted to rechargeables and have an adapter both at home and
work, I no longer notice much of an effect.

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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Hal Goldstein wrote:

> My understanding from Mack's test some time ago that there was about a
> 10-15% reduction in 2speed and 10-15% reduction from the memory.  Now
> that might have been with 8 meg.  I know Mack continues to improve his
> product that we sell, and that he is conservative on his figures.
> Maybe Mack will jump in.

Well, on the Times2 Tech web site, he states that the speed upgrade will
be 10-25% battery reduction, and that:

"We currently use new lower power memory chips so the power difference is
even less noticable if noticable at all."

And I know the new 32MB and 64MB chips use less power than the older
chips... in fact, the new upgrades will often retain their contents at
lower power levels than the built-in RAM on the 200LX's motherboard.  So I
would bet the battery difference is not bad with a 32MB or 64MB upgrade.
Heck, if the upgrade requires removal of an old 1MB daughterboard, battery
life might even improve with the new low-power chips.

> Since I converted to rechargeables and have an adapter both at home and
> work, I no longer notice much of an effect.

I agree... that's the best way to go.  :)

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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:34:30 +0000
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Project Kick Start does list Superproject as one of the programs you
can transfer data to.  Don't know if it is Super Project 2.0 or not.
I have used it with Timeline 5.0 and Agenda 2.0 and it does a good
job of getting the framework for a complicated project in place
quickly.   It launches the target program and uses macros to build
the data into a file - pretty good stuff.

This company offers useful products that work well on the 200LX.
They have a page with these products and links to directions for
installing on HP palmtops.  Here is the URL:

http://www.experienceware.com/html/palmtop.htm

There was a summer sale price of $29.95 on each product - may or may
not be still good.

> Date:          Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:37:25 -0800

> From:          Patrick West 
> Subject:       Project Kick Start

> Folks,
>
> I'm looking at an old copy of the Palmtop paper Best Tips 1995.  There is
> an ad for "Project Kick Start".
> Is anyone on the list using it?  I wonder if it can export to CA-Super
> Project 2.0?
>

Mike Melancon
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Brian Sugita wrote:

> Hmm, any more info on this?  I found some PCMCIA card
> readers on NECX.COM, but they were all around $100.00
> not $10.  I'd be very interested in a $10 adapter.  If you have
> any more info, let me know. Thanks!

http://necxdirect.necx.com/cgi-bin/auth/ifilelnk_q?key=0000121810&nonce=guest


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Also there should be a clock line to synchronize the data.

Phil

>
>     "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit
>data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key-
>board.
>
>Steve
>
>

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> Jorgen Wallgren 

>Hi,

> The problem is that my company is big with offices all over the world and
> our servers do not support BOOTP and it will be impossible for me to try
> to implement it. Ok, I can get an IP address to use in my office. But I =
> need
> DHCP support in order to make my 200LX and Accton card useful, since I =
> often
> visit our offices in Asia Pacific. So if I had DHCP support, I just need =
> to
> plug in my palmtop in any of our offices network and then I get my =
> e-mail.

> Thanks and Regards,

> Jorgen

Jorgen;

     IBM Warp Server comes with a client for DOS called DLS (DOS LAN
Services).  I *think* it comes with DHCP support.  I do know it runs
on a DOS machine (we had one on our network).  I will investigate
and mail you if anything interesting pops out.

Steve

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> Hmm, any more info on this?  I found some PCMCIA card
> readers on NECX.COM, but they were all around $100.00
> not $10.  I'd be very interested in a $10 adapter.  If you have
> any more info, let me know. Thanks!
>
> Brian S
>


I haven't looked recently but they were on NecX.com. Follow the
outlet center links and they were right there for $10 plus $4.95
shipping (any number). I have three and am very happy with them.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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> Also there should be a clock line to synchronize the data.
>
> >     "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit
> >data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key-
> >board.

What do you mean by this?  I thought the presence of START and STOP
bits indicated asynchronous transmission, such that a separate clock
signal was NOT required.????

-Chris

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The standard 5 pin keyboard interface has transmit, receive, +5 volts,
ground, and clock.  Keyboards are _synchronous_.

>
>> Also there should be a clock line to synchronize the data.
>>
>> >     "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit
>> >data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key-
>> >board.
>
>What do you mean by this?  I thought the presence of START and STOP
>bits indicated asynchronous transmission, such that a separate clock
>signal was NOT required.????
>
>-Chris
>

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> I haven't looked recently but they were on NecX.com. Follow the
> outlet center links and they were right there for $10 plus $4.95
> shipping (any number). I have three and am very happy with them.
>
> Pete
>

I did just check and they are listed as in stock. Go to www.necx.com
and follow the OUTLET CENTER links, the adaptors are about halfway
down the page.

Just to clarify, these come with NO drivers but are supported by
win95 (and above) by built in drivers. You may have to do "Add new
hardware" to have them detected. They will work with memory and IO
style cards, I use them with wireless network cards, others have said
they work with flash and sram cards. Hope this all helps.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

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> The standard 5 pin keyboard interface has transmit, receive, +5 volts,
> ground, and clock.  Keyboards are _synchronous_.

Interesting.  Seems like I have heard this before.  However, that
would mean the (formerly) revered Undocumented PC is in error?!?!

> >
> >> Also there should be a clock line to synchronize the data.
> >>
> >> >     "The Undocumented PC" says the serial format is, start bit
> >> >data bits 0 to 7, odd parity, stop bit, for the standard AT key-
> >> >board.
> >
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>its a consistent 6 byte message, and the keyboard is silent when no key is
>pressed. It looks like the sequence is 2 bytes key down, 2 bytes key up, 2
>bytes no key pressed.


I was able to read in some patterns with a web tv ir keyboard and when I got
deeper into it I found that some keys gave duplicate code strings, so there was
no way to distinguish every key using the regular ir port.

>What I have noticed, however, is that the bit stream is not 100% consistent.
>Some of the bits toggle apparently at random, but nothing that would cause
>at least these 5 keys to look the same to a piece of software.


I noticed that as well, but it could be accounted for as the errors seemed to be
in consistent places.

Cheers,
Mack

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>I thought that was for the speed upgrade.  In my experience, the 32MB
>upgrade hasn't taken much of my battery life away...>>


The new 32 & 64MB upgrades are much more conservative powerwise than the 8MBs
and less upgrades, so the old statement about 10-15% reduction in battery life
probably doesn't hold nearly as true for them.

Cheers,
Mack

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              Brendan Macmillan 
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From:         Brendan Macmillan 
Subject:      Re: Text resources in 200LX ROM...
In-Reply-To:  <852566AD.0059D692.00@Manulife_Ext_Two@manulife.com> from "Bruce
              Martin" at Oct 30, 98 11:33:50 am
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> >> Another angle... is there a way to "hot link" the text from ROM or
> > >anywhere (files, programs, or etc.) into a document or (and here's the
> > >root of my question) program.  The idea is to use existing words and
> > >phrases in a new application so those words and phrases don't eat memory
> > >space that's all ready "eaten".

> >That is _sick_, man. RAM is cheap now.

Sick or not, I like the idea! (man)

But consider:
        how many bits to reference the start of the word
                (much much ROM is there? 1 Meg, so 20 bits to address it.)
        how many bits to state the length of the word?
                (if we take the maximum length as 16 letters, that's 4 bits.)
        And one extra bit for *every* word to say "this word is being
                represented by a reference to ROM).
Therefore, each reference to a word in ROM takes 20+4+1=25 bits.

For words with less than 4 letters, it takes less memory to state the word
directly:
        assume 7 bits per letter
        assume an average length of 5 letters per word.

Therefore:
        "short words" - For words with less than 4 letters, there would
                be no saving - but you still need that single bit to indicate
                that the word coming up is a short one, and that it would be stated
                directly rather than by reference.
        "marginal words" - For 4 letter words, there would be a slight
                saving of (4*7=28)-25 = 3 bits.  "long words" - For words greater
        than 4 letters, there may be substantial savings of
                an extra 7 bits for each extra letter.
A possible obstacle is that single bit needed for all the 1, 2, and 3
letter words (for example, there were 27 such words in original post
out of a total of 67 words). If there are too many such words, in
comparison with the saving for the longer words, the method would not
produce a net saving.

What does the net saving turn out to be? Ignoring the marginal 4 letter
words, there are 18 out of 67 words of 5 or more letters in the
original post (above) - these are the ones with substantial savings of
3+7+7+7... bits each. These would definitely offset the extra 27 bits
required for each of the short words.

Therefore, the scheme is viable!


COUNTERARGUMENTS
The counterargument that not all words would be contained in the ROM is
true; but I think more than enough would be there - for example, I think
all the long words in the initial post would be in the ROM. In fact,
most words would be in the help-file section, and as this section will
be much smaller than 1 Meg, it may be possible to reduce the number of
bits needed to address the word to much less than 20. Eg 64K needs
only 16 bits.

The time needed to find the word in the ROM may be substantial. However,
this is needed only during "compression"; decompression would be
instantaneous for practical purposes. It could also be done later on,
converting one type of text into the other; or done in the "background".


CONCLUSION
I think it's a cute idea, sick or not .

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The other problem is battery life - I seriously considered the PC110 however
I need two things above all else: pocket sized & long battery life. I
understand that the maximum is about 2h for the PC110. BTW is that correct?

Regards,
Stefan Lombaard


>Subject: Re: IBM PC110?
>
>"I find that I would like my Libretto less well if
>it had a `smaller footprint' as the keys are only
>borderline tolerable as it is, and smaller would
>be `worse' (for me) not `better'.
>
>As it is, the keys ARE bigger than LX, no?  The
>whole thing is bigger and heavier than the LX.
>As much as most people like it, no one will give
>up the LX for it.  Hmmmmmmmm.  but it comes
>close.  yet if you miss a target by a cm yu miss
>the target.
>
>Semper mobilis,
>yor pal al :-) .............

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Hi all
Looking at space shuttle news on CNN and it looked like a 200lx
hooked up to some experiment.
Can anyone confirm this?
Do you know exactly what they are using it for?

If it is a 200LX do you think HP will be clever enough to
follow it up and advertise the "astronaut's palmtop",
"space saving PC" etc ?
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cheers

John Shaw
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> There is
> >an ad for "Project Kick Start".
> >Is anyone on the list using it?  I wonder if it can export to
> CA-Super Project 2.0?
>
>

Compuserve members may find it in the lib of the IDEAS forum.

HP

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Count me in too please.

Rick S.

aguze118 wrote:
>
> I'll take a copy.
> Tony Guzewicz
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The 2.23 version of Goin' Postal has just been placed on the
web page:  http://home.earthlink/net/~sdlsaginaw/

This version should be faster and more reliable online than the
previous 2.21 release.  Good results with a single speed 100LX
and a Simple Tech 33.6 modem set for 57600 baud.

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Date:         Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:00:16 -0800
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I have Windows 3.0,  I could post it on my web site assuming
that it is legal to do so.  I also have Windows/286 that I was
wondering if it would run on the 200LX.  Hmm.  Someone let
me know whats up with this.  Thanks

Brian SU

At 11:21 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I was going to suggest the link on:
>
>     http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html
>
>...but it seems to be broken. Actually, it's a pointer to an offsite file
>on Jeff John's page:
>
>     ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj
>
>...but this link seems to be broken too. What's up Jeff? Have you abandoned
>Abandonware?  :-)
>
>I don't know what else to suggest, except to maybe start searching the web
>for Abandonware or various other key words.
>
>Good luck, and let us know what you come up with.
>
>-----------------------
>I want to install Windows 3.0 on my palmtop.  From the SLEEP.ZIP program
>was
>a file saying which Windows3.0 files are needed on the HP-LX.  I own 2
>licenses for Windows 3.1, which I don't use, so I figure that it should
>cover the license needed to own Windows 3.0.  Does anybody have Windows
>3.0?
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Hi all
Looking at shuttle news on CNN and it looked like a 200lx
hooked up to some experiment.
Can anyone confirm this?
Do you know exactly what they are using it for?

If it is a 200LX do you think HP will be clever enough to
follow it up and advertise the "astronaut's palmtop"?

cheers

John Shaw
Wellington, NZ
mailto:palmtop@ihug.co.nz

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> Sick or not, I like the idea! (man)
>
> ...
>
> CONCLUSION
> I think it's a cute idea, sick or not .
>
> --
> Brendan.Macmillan@infotech.monash.edu.au           Tel: +61 03  9905 5194

I think the idea would be a little excessive for single words but for
phrases it would be useful. if you think about it most of the error
messages and such are already there, why not just reuse them. With a
little hunting you could probably satisfy 80% or more of the common
messages that you need in any well written program. Also, dealing
with entire phrases as opposed to individual words leasd to even
greater savings since a single pointer can handle a multi-word phrase.

As far as the idea that ram is cheap and saving it is sick, that is
EXACTLY the thinking that lead to the state of the art today, word
processors that take 100M of disk and 32M to run, and I am not even
going to go into the bloat in the OS, especially those from a certain
company whose initials are MS.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
Tidewater Community College
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Subject:      Re: Database for Teachers
Comments: To: JOHN_LINKOWSKY%NORTHAMERICA@FIRMENICH.COM
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In <412566AD.0071F5AB.00@gva009.firmenich.com>, on 10/30/98 at 03:44 PM,
   John Linkowsky  said:

>Does anybody know of a database file (and where I could get it)  for
>teachers to organize there classes, students grades, etc.?

John,
Get Lotus Agenda at:
http://www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/dos/2.0/misc/

Install it on a desktop, getting it running, and I'll send you a template
for this. This is a text based database that is unsurpassed for this. I do
this very thing with it and a lot more. Regards,
Charles


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I have a 15 meg sandisk and have not noticed any change of battery life.
The only trouble I've had is one I corrupted the  directory on the card and
couldn't get the data back.  I reformated the disk and everything seems fine
now.  I must have had really low batteries when I was writing to it (?)

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As Bill Childers just pointed out to me, at the following URL:

http://www.hp.com/jornada/getting_help/support/palmtops/faq.html

HP seems to have changed the names of all their palmtops from "LX" to
"Jornada series."  Even the 200LX is called the "HP Jornada 200 Series
Handheld PC."  Talk about bizarre...

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i was able to identify the file pushkeys.com on the d:\bin directory of the
palmtop
there appears to be no documentation on how to use this file.
i entered pushkeys /i and noted the response that this was installed but i
am not able to find it as a tsr in the autoexec.bat file or in filer.


i am currently using hp200 and software carousel & i would like to
use a program which can do the following keypresses as a macro

¬1
p
f9
c:\_dat\filename1.pdb
&
b
f9
c:\dat\filename2.gdb

i have noted a program called keypress, but the authors email address no
longer seems to work...using this program, while i have some familiarity w
puters, i have used the bat files provided but i
cant seem to make the link between your nice demos and my needs.

would someone be able to help me with these needs?

thanks
max

i was able to identify the file pushkeys.com on the d:\bin directory of the
palmtop
there appears to be no documentation on how to use this file.
i entered pushkeys /i and noted the response that this was installed but i
am not able to find it as a tsr in the autoexec.bat file or in filer.


i am currently using hp200 and software carousel & i would like to
use a program which can do the following keypresses as a macro

¬1
p
f9
c:\_dat\filename1.pdb
&
b
f9
c:\dat\filename2.gdb

i have noted a program called keypress, but the authors email address no
longer seems to work...using this program, while i have some familiarity w
puters, i have used the bat files provided but i
cant seem to make the link between your nice demos and my needs.

would someone be able to help me with these needs?

thanks
max

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:06:27 +0800
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              "Liam M. Early" 
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>As Bill Childers just pointed out to me, at the following URL:
>http://www.hp.com/jornada/getting_help/support/palmtops/faq.html
>HP seems to have changed the names of all their palmtops from "LX" to
>"Jornada series."  Even the 200LX is called the "HP Jornada 200
Series
>Handheld PC."  Talk about bizarre...


I read the answer to this on a PalmPC site a couple of weeks back,
the marketeers have decised that jaunty little names like Nino sell
better (especially to females - a particular target group of Phillips)
than the LX2000 PII - 400 DOS Giga Blaster  8-)

Jornada has some spanish (or mexican ?) meaning, read it some
where.....

Regards......Liam

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Subject:      Lx Palmtops at ATP Tennis Tournements
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          ybuyukberber@superonline.com, cengiz@mail.egsgg.com.tr,
          makro@sim.net.tr, ahmeto@ankara.datasel.com.tr, ago@ibm.net,
          tansuy@microsoft.com, ekinci@aha.ru, kompusan@kompusan.com.tr,
          tayfun@doruk.net.tr, raufar@turk.net, ramazan.yildiz@mensoy.com.tr,
          koman@mag.net.tr, nolgacay@superonline.com, myetkin@superonline.com,
          devirfinans@turk.net, lsisman@hotmail.com, oznoyan@turk.net,
          khorasanli@superonline.com, matrix@superonline.com,
          izzet@sarkhayat.com.tr, hgonullu@homestudio.com,
          ftulek@eti.ato.org.tr, baysuf@doruk.com.tr, fakin@cisco.com,
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Is there any tennis referee using lx palmtop in the HPLX list. I noticed
the palmtop in their hands at ATP tours on Eurosports and I wonder how they
are using it.

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:53:08 -0500
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Charles, can you send me the template as well. I have a friend that is a
teacher, and I'm sure she will appreciate this.

Thanks,

Gary

Send it to garyflash@tritium.net.
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Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: Database for Teachers


>In <412566AD.0071F5AB.00@gva009.firmenich.com>, on 10/30/98 at 03:44 PM,
>   John Linkowsky  said:
>
>>Does anybody know of a database file (and where I could get it)  for
>>teachers to organize there classes, students grades, etc.?
>
>John,
>Get Lotus Agenda at:
>http://www2.support.lotus.com/ftp/pub/desktop/Agenda/dos/2.0/misc/
>
>Install it on a desktop, getting it running, and I'll send you a template
>for this. This is a text based database that is unsurpassed for this. I do
>this very thing with it and a lot more. Regards,
>Charles
>
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
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>Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN
>http://www.galis.com/epcnash/www/hpc/hpcindex.html
>
>Emmanuel Presbyterian Church, Nashville, TN
>http://www.galis.com/epcnash/index.html
>A New Church Development of Tennessee-Alabama Presbytery
>ÝAssociate Reformed Presbyterian Synod¨
>
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>that Thy works may praise Thee."   Aurelius Augustine
>
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Charles,   Please,  I am a high school teacher (AutoCAD) and would love the
Database.   I have Agenda....

TIA

Cathy

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> From: Liam M. Early 
> Jornada has some spanish (or mexican ?) meaning, read it some
> where.....

 Typicial usage

1. (d=EDa de trabajo) working day: una jornada de ocho horas, an eight-ho=
ur
day: ha sido una jornada intensiva, it's been a hard day's work.
2. (camino recorrido) day's journey: estamos a dos jornadas de camino,
we've got another two days' travelling to do.
3. (en periodismo) day: las noticias de la jornada, today's news: la
jornada deportiva del s=E1bado, Saturday's sport.

Cheers
Ron

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 09:25:07 -0600
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              al chin 
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Subject:      Leather pouch

Hi C;
Top o the morning ta ya.
How's the pouches coming along.
Would ya be willing to do one for me?
I'll take it around the world with me.

I'd like to trade, how about a mem/modem
card or a PCMCIA drive?  The drive is brand
new unused by humans.

Semper mobilis,
yor pal al :-) .............

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:02:40 -0800
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What do you guys think?  (This isn't an HPLX issue, but it's more a
WindowsCE versus "REAL" computer issue, which has been mentioned a lot
here).

            Tony

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Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 10:59 AM
Subject: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT


>I don't get it...  When you compare the Libretto 50CT and the new HP660LX,
>why would anyone go with WindowsCE when they can have the real Windows95 or
>Windows98.
>
>HP660LX                    Libretto 50CT
>--------------                    -------------------
>WindowsCE                Windows95 (or even 98)
>$800-$900                  $800-$900
>both libretto and hp660lx are close to the same size
>2.5 hour battery life     2.5 hour battery life
>32MB RAM                 32MB RAM
>no harddrive                810MB harddrive
>56K modem                56K PCMCIA modem/Ethernet combo
>Instant On                    Sleep Mode
>Touch Screen             No Touch Screen
>256 colors                   65,000 colors
>640x240 pixels           640x480 pixels (and can scroll to 1024x768 pixels)
>sound card audio       sound card audio
>can record                   can't record
>PCMCIA type II           PCMCIA type II (a 2nd PCMCIA with the docking
>station)
>Seriel Port                   Seriel Port
>No Parallel Port          Parallel Port
>Fast bootup                1-2 minute Windows95/98 bootup
>IR port                          IR port
>Can't run extra hardware    Can run extra hardware...  External storage,
>scanners, video cameras, etc...
>
>Looking at this... why would anyone choose the HP660LX when you can get the
>Libretto 50CT for the same price?  The only thing the HP660LX offers that
>the Libretto doesn't have are: audio recording, touch screen, fast bootup.
>Everything else, the Libretto offers tons more.  The biggest thing I see if
>that the HP660LX was made to run WITH a real computer, but the Libretto IS
a
>real computer...  People who have Librettos and WindowsCE machines sync up
>their data in their WindowsCE machines with their Librettos.... in other
>words, the Libretto is supperior.
>
>What does everyone else think?
>
>                    Tony Olsen
>                    ferris@myself.com
>
>P.S. E-mail me personally as well as the newsgroup...
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:05:21 -0500
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I know this pops up often, but a search of the archives didn't reveal the
information I'm wanting.

I'd like to know the specifications from HP about XBRam, the starting address,
bytes in ID, data bytes, field lengths, etc..  Buddy's docs mention that it
uses an ID of JM, a search of JM in ram yielded a few results, but nothing
conclusive about the location of XBRam.

Thanks!

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Subject:      LXPGP version 1.0, finally..  :)
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LXPGP is a graphical front-end to PGP 2.6.x written in LXBatch.  It allows
easy manipulation of PGP files, keyfiles, signatures, etc.  Included in the
archive is a compiled version for those who normally do not keep LXBatch
installed, as well as the full LXBatch source for those who do keep LXBatch
installed.  Batch files, documentation, and an installation guide are also
included.

I've been trying to locate an email address for Rob Koenis for weeks without
luck, so I'm releasing LXPGP 1.0, still unfortunately harboring two bugs that
I believe to be internal to LXBatch.

One of them only happens upon the initial configuration, a R6003 Null Pointer
error is given to the command line upon exiting.  And occationally PalMemFull
will pop up on the command line after an exexpected exit of the program.

I only find the PMF bug when really poking around, so I don't think it's gonna
crop up in any average use, I never see it when I'm *using* LXPGP, only when
testing.  :)

Forgiving those, LXPGP offers more features and lots of bugfixes over the last
public release, 0.945.

LXPGP can be gotten from my webpage, http://www.sac.uky.edu and should also
have an updated link on the SUPER page in a few days.

Any and all comments are appreciated!

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:11:32 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Where are those $10 ISA-PCMCIA Card readers?
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I did a search on "Abandonware" and came up with a couple of good web
pages... but I also found a couple of government pages.  They say that
"Abandonware" is an urban legend and there are articles of users serving
time in prison for distributing "Abandonware".

I think this is crazy!!  How am I supposed ot get an old software program if
a) It's no longer sold, and b) it's illegal to obtain a copy witout buying
it???  I think these government officials are nuts!

I think "Abandonware" is good... maybe the government could form a legal
commity to decide which software is considered "Abandonware".

What do you guys think?

                Tony


-----Original Message-----
From: Stacy D. Coil 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Where are those $10 ISA-PCMCIA Card readers?


>I found mine at necx.com.
>
>--Stacy
>
>
>Thanks for your message at 10:50 AM 10/30/98 -0500, Ed Padin. Your message
>was:
>>Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
>>adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
>>the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
>>the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
>>this guy out, please do.
>>
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>------ response to John
>>
>>I bought a few $10 card readers a few weeks ago. They come with no
>>drivers but windows 95 loads drivers that work with it. It uses the
>>Vadem chip set. I was able to use flash cards and NIC cards with it. I
>>will submit a copy of your letter to the HP 200LX mailing list. The
>>cards were discussed there and that's where I got the link.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Garner Ýmailto:garner@wport.com¨
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:44 AM
>>> To: Libretto
>>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA cards? (for
>>> wireless network cards)
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:43:25 -0800
>>> From: "John Garner" 
>>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA
>>> cards? (for wireless network cards)
>>>
>>> There was a source earlier this year - if anyone knows of it please
>>> email me or put it up in the group.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> John G.
>>>
>>>
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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:16:03 -0800
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Sorry... that last reply was supposed to be for another message on the HPLX
list... sorry for the confusion. =)

                Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Stacy D. Coil 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Where are those $10 ISA-PCMCIA Card readers?


>I found mine at necx.com.
>
>--Stacy
>
>
>Thanks for your message at 10:50 AM 10/30/98 -0500, Ed Padin. Your message
>was:
>>Some guy on the Toshiba mailing list was looking for a desktop PCMCIA
>>adapter. I bought one of those $10 cards we discussed on here but, for
>>the life of me, can't remember the site. I tried the HPLX-L archives but
>>the web server never responds when i try to search. If anyone can help
>>this guy out, please do.
>>
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>------ response to John
>>
>>I bought a few $10 card readers a few weeks ago. They come with no
>>drivers but windows 95 loads drivers that work with it. It uses the
>>Vadem chip set. I was able to use flash cards and NIC cards with it. I
>>will submit a copy of your letter to the HP 200LX mailing list. The
>>cards were discussed there and that's where I got the link.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: John Garner Ýmailto:garner@wport.com¨
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:44 AM
>>> To: Libretto
>>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA cards? (for
>>> wireless network cards)
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:43:25 -0800
>>> From: "John Garner" 
>>> Subject: Anyone know of a good source for ISA-slot PCMIA
>>> cards? (for wireless network cards)
>>>
>>> There was a source earlier this year - if anyone knows of it please
>>> email me or put it up in the group.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> John G.
>>>
>>>
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I did a search on "Abandonware" and came up with a couple of good web
pages... but I also found a couple of government pages.  They say that
"Abandonware" is an urban legend and there are articles of users serving
time in prison for distributing "Abandonware".

I think this is crazy!!  How am I supposed ot get an old software program if
a) It's no longer sold, and b) it's illegal to obtain a copy witout buying
it???  I think these government officials are nuts!

I think "Abandonware" is good... maybe the government could form a legal
commity to decide which software is considered "Abandonware".

What do you guys think?

                Tony

P.S. I'm sorry... I accidenlty posted this reply to the wrong message....

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce_Martin@manulife.com 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Cc: olsena@EMAIL.MSN.COM 
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: Searching for Windows 3.0


>I was going to suggest the link on:
>
>     http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html
>
>...but it seems to be broken. Actually, it's a pointer to an offsite file
>on Jeff John's page:
>
>     ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj
>
>...but this link seems to be broken too. What's up Jeff? Have you abandoned
>Abandonware?  :-)
>
>I don't know what else to suggest, except to maybe start searching the web
>for Abandonware or various other key words.
>
>Good luck, and let us know what you come up with.
>
>-----------------------
>I want to install Windows 3.0 on my palmtop.  From the SLEEP.ZIP program
>was
>a file saying which Windows3.0 files are needed on the HP-LX.  I own 2
>licenses for Windows 3.1, which I don't use, so I figure that it should
>cover the license needed to own Windows 3.0.  Does anybody have Windows
>3.0?
>
>

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:19:08 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Mouse...
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There's no real complication with using a mouse on the HPLX.  Just use your
HP-seriel cable, and plug your seriel mouse into that.  Then run any old
MOUSE.COM driver.  Mine worked the first time. =)

                Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Dowell 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Friday, October 30, 1998 9:11 AM
Subject: Mouse...


>I've noticed several posts that talk about running gui's such as GEM and
>Win3.1.
>Can you use a mouse with the LX??  If so, can you use it with the
>standard apps?
>I don't know that I'd want to use a mouse with my LX... just curious.
>
>Steve
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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:31:19 -0800
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Subject:      Re: Windows 3.0
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Apparently it's illegal (government-wise) to post "Abandonware".  Does
anyone know more about this?  ...because I'm looking for a copy of
Windows3.0, and I can't find it o sale anywhere....

                Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Sugita 
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 
Date: Saturday, October 31, 1998 4:53 AM
Subject: Windows 3.0


>I have Windows 3.0,  I could post it on my web site assuming
>that it is legal to do so.  I also have Windows/286 that I was
>wondering if it would run on the 200LX.  Hmm.  Someone let
>me know whats up with this.  Thanks
>
>Brian SU
>
>At 11:21 AM 10/30/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>I was going to suggest the link on:
>>
>>     http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html
>>
>>...but it seems to be broken. Actually, it's a pointer to an offsite file
>>on Jeff John's page:
>>
>>     ftp://ftp.scott.net/pub/users/jeffj
>>
>>...but this link seems to be broken too. What's up Jeff? Have you
abandoned
>>Abandonware?  :-)
>>
>>I don't know what else to suggest, except to maybe start searching the web
>>for Abandonware or various other key words.
>>
>>Good luck, and let us know what you come up with.
>>
>>-----------------------
>>I want to install Windows 3.0 on my palmtop.  From the SLEEP.ZIP program
>>was
>>a file saying which Windows3.0 files are needed on the HP-LX.  I own 2
>>licenses for Windows 3.1, which I don't use, so I figure that it should
>>cover the license needed to own Windows 3.0.  Does anybody have Windows
>>3.0?
>>
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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:47:50 +0100
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Chris,

I am using the DC23 with Post/LX and Qfax. I have an Ericsson GH688
phone.

Previously used the DC12 with my old GH388.

What do you want to know?

Goran..

goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se


> Has anyone used the Ericsson DC-23 or the older DC-12 GSM phone
> interface card with their 200LX?  If so, I'd like to hear from
you.

> -Chris

> --

> *************************************************************** * ********
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                                   > > rclott@ro.com
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I am using QFax 1.08 with my old faithful Intel 14.4 PCMCIA modem, and
my Ericsson DC23 GSM data card. Std setup - no frills, no problems. Can't
say I fax a lot these days, since the email application (Post/LX) works
so well. The last few times I used QFax, was to just print out the =
docfile
to some new LX prgm I downloaded. A lot easier than connecting a printer
to the LX.

Goran..

goran.johansson@mbox3.swipnet.se

> --------------------
> Date:    Thu, 29 Oct 1998 02:07:12 EDT
> From:    Darren Frick 
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> > Hi Jeff, Darren & All:

> > Darren, do you use an internal or external MODEM? I have never gotten
> > QFax to work w/ PCMCIA MODEM, but you and QMan(among others ?) have had
> > success. I think I remember that all success has been w/ external
> > MODEMS.

> I use a Megahertz XJ1144. pcmcia

> >
> > I switched from MiniFAX to BGFax when I switched MODEMS. With Jorgen's
> > FAXGUI, it is great FAX software....allows inclusion of PCX files in =
the
> > FAX, and multiple font sizes if you want to get fancy.
> >
> I might give that a try if it's more reliable. I kinda wish Qfax would =
work
better 'cause it's so small...

> > There is also Delrina's DOSFAX lite that ships w/ some MODEMS. I tried

> I have a copy of this that came with an old Intel modem. Kinda large for =
my
> taste. Thanks though - maybe I'll fiddle w/ BGFax.

> Darren.

> "Only a madman would give a loaded revolver to a retarded child!"

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:08:06 -0600
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Although I don't *specialize* in trademark/copyright law, I can tell you
it's usually quite legal to post "abandonware".  The problem is that
software is "abandonware" until its original copyright holder has
relinquished its rights and released it under a nonrestrictive license or
into the public domain.  Just because software is no longer sold or
supported does not necessarily make it abandoned.

Kurt

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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to trade or sell the following:
1.- Two hp 200 lx, one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the =
other
one in excellent condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded hinge
or   the non working latch syndrome
2.- Connectivity pack with one cable with all the connectors and =
manuals,
as well as the software
3.- 1 printer cable
4.- Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
5.- 5 diskettes with the software send along with the hp palmtop paper =
by
Thaddeus Computing
6.- Palm Connect Old software to connect a hp with a PC running windows =
3.1
7.- A PC in your pocket book
8.- A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
9.- A PC/MS-DOS book by Microref
10.- A 512 KB PC card
If I find anything else I'll throw it into the package
I will trade/sell the whole package, will not separate. I'd take a hp =
620 or a Hp 660, or any of those darn wince machines with wince 2, =
software and a modem in it, with all that comes in the box. Also I'm all =
ears for a for a decent bid.=20
Please answer to my private mail
Thank you very much for your time and attention
Arturo Galindo

agalindo@mail.giga.com


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Hi there you all, sadly for me I do have to trade=20
or sell the following:
1.- Two hp =
200 lx,=20
one almost new, back up unit almost never used, the other
one in =
excellent=20
condition, neither one shows signs of the dreaded =
hinge
or   the=20
non working latch syndrome
2.- Connectivity pack with one cable with =
all the=20
connectors and manuals,
as well as the software
3.- 1 printer =
cable
4.-=20
Hp palmtop paper, 30 issues
5.- 5 diskettes with the software send =
along with=20
the hp palmtop paper by
Thaddeus Computing
6.- Palm Connect Old =
software=20
to connect a hp with a PC running windows 3.1
7.- A PC in your pocket =

book
8.- A Lotus 1-2-3 version 2.4 book by Microref
9.- A =
PC/MS-DOS book=20
by Microref
10.- A 512 KB PC card
If I find anything else I'll =
throw it=20
into the package
I will trade/sell the =
whole=20
package, will not separate. I'd take a hp 620 or a Hp 660, or any of =
those darn=20
wince machines with wince 2, software and a modem in it, with all that =
comes in=20
the box. Also I'm all ears for a for a decent bid. 
Please answer to =
my=20
private mail
Thank you very much for your time and =
attention
Arturo=20
Galindo

agalindo@mail.giga.com


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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:06:53 -0800
Reply-To:     Tony Olsen 
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From:         Tony Olsen 
Subject:      Where can I find Goin' Postal...
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I have a few internet programs for my 100LX, but I want to try out "Goin =
Postal".  Where can I find it?  I could find it on the SUPER site.  Did =
I get the name wrong?

Thanks

                Tony =3D)
                ferris@myself.com

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I have a few internet programs for my 100LX, but I =
want to try=20
out "Goin Postal".  Where can I find it?  I could =
find it on=20
the SUPER site.  Did I get the name wrong?


 


Thanks


 


          &nbs=
p;    =20
Tony =3D)


          &nbs=
p;    =20
ferris@myself.com


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              fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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From:         "F. Kaufman" 
Subject:      Re: Fw: HP660LX verses Libretto 50CT
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> What do you guys think?  (This isn't an HPLX issue, but it's more a
> WindowsCE versus "REAL" computer issue, which has been mentioned a lot
> here).
>

Well, the thing that the REAL computer lack is an alarm function
which wakes up the computer and the user and alerts about pending
appointments or other events.

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:22:47 -0700
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              Terrence Chun 
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Subject:      DOS question for PNS on 200lx
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Hi all,

I am trying to configure PNS (point-n-shoot) to run my application projects
off of the Filer application.  Unfortunately, I am not much of a DOS guru.

How do I run a program from DOS with a certain amount of memory allocated
for it, like in the System Manager with c:\bin\myprog.exe|90 runs the
program in 90k instead of using up /all/ of my system's memory to run a dos
program?

Thanks!

-- Terry

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Date:         Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:55:17 -0600
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From:         smn 
Subject:      HP 200  LX
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Trying to get a message posted.
Use the HP200 LX but want to go to Windows.  Suggestions?

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Use the HP200 LX but =
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