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At 08:25 PM 3/31/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had) a 200lx 6meg
<snip>

I hope not.  I think this group is one of the few places where such a loss
can be appreciated.  I can speak for all of us in saying that losing a loved
device (and who'd have known there was such a thing?) is painful.  And
expensive.  But your palmtop probably isn't dead.  Read on...

>Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal 2-week old baby
boy)
>who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears and not at
his
<snip>
>No, I haven't backed anything up (the cable just arrived last night).  I lost
>my phone directory, inpatient and outpatient databases, schedules, Harriet
>Lane formulary (typed-in by hand), medical calculator, and medical databases
>compiled from a variety of sources.

Likely the stuff on the flashcard is fine.  Flash memory is nonvolatile, so
whatever was on there is probably still there, providing that the 200 didn't
wipe anything during its seizure.

>Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can suggest a
>repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to salvage this
>little unit
>(which I love).
>
>Now I'm even more depressed.

That's quite understandable.  HP will repair such damage, although it might
be useful to wait and see if it fixes itself.  Prop the PC card door open to
allow whatever's left to evaporate.  After a day or so, put the batteries
back in and see if it works.  Failing that, you can send it to Corvallis,
and they'll fix it for whatever it costs to replace the bad part (the mother-
board, probably).  But, 200LXes are legendary for durability; many have
anecdotes of their computers falling to the lake, toilet, kitchen sink, etc.
Yours has a fighting chance; and if it doesn't come out of it on its own,
like I said, HP will fix it for you.

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Don't call us when the new age gets old enough to drink."
  -- Beck, "Lord Only Knows"

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Date:         Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:28:05 -0800
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Terrence Chun wrote:
>
> Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal 2-week old baby boy)
> who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears and not at his
> aim, I didn't notice that he was urinating until I began to feel wet.  He had
> successfully urinated into my coat pocket, soaking my 200lx/flashcard.  I
> tried to dry it off, but when I turned it on, the speaker started to emit a
> high-pitched whine.  I took out the main batteries, but the whine only became
> softer and did not stop until I took out the backup battery (so long, C:
> drive!).  Urine is full of electrolytes and is a great (relatively speaking)
> conductor.  After blowdrying the unit out and replacing the batteries, I get
> the same whine and no screen.

Man, that's got to be a bummer.  I would suggest you either try rinsing it
thoroughly with purified water, then letting it dry on its own, or rinsing it
with some sort of solvent to remove the urine.  Have you ever taken it apart?
If so, it would be best to do that before cleaning it; that way you can make
sure all the places get thoroughly clean.  Also, it's probably a good idea to
let it air-dry.

> No, I haven't backed anything up (the cable just arrived last night).  I lost
> my phone directory, inpatient and outpatient databases, schedules, Harriet
> Lane formulary (typed-in by hand), medical calculator, and medical databases
> compiled from a variety of sources.

What about the flash card... did you have anything backed up on there?
Generally they're pretty durable.  Have you any means of testing it other than
in the 200LX?

> Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can suggest a
> repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to salvage this
> little unit (which I love).
> Now I'm even more depressed.

I can understand.  But don't get too down.  A good cleaning will most likely
bring back your hardware, if not your data.  If you still can't get it working,
either HP or Times2 Tech can probably fix it, but I have no idea as to what the
cost might be.
--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Tue, 31 Mar 1998 21:24:09 -0800
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Years ago when I worked at Tektronix we use to wash all the instruments
that came in for repair in distilled water. The water will remove most any
of the conducting contamination without effecting most components. Most if
not all of the components in the LX are sealed.

If it were mine, I think that would be the best hope. Good luck.

karl



At 08:25 PM 3/31/98 -0500, you wrote:
>This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had) a 200lx 6meg
>(thanks, Julie) with MegaHertz2144 (thanks, Ralph) and 16meg Flashcard
>(thanks, Mark).  My serial cable just arrived yesterday (thanks, other Mark)
>and I had been successfully transferring files recommended through this
>mailing list from my Amiga to the 200lx (thanks, Amiganauts).
>
>Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal 2-week old baby
boy)
>who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears and not at
his
>aim, I didn't notice that he was urinating until I began to feel wet.  He had
>successfully urinated into my coat pocket, soaking my 200lx/flashcard.  I
>tried to dry it off, but when I turned it on, the speaker started to emit a
>high-pitched whine.  I took out the main batteries, but the whine only became
>softer and did not stop until I took out the backup battery (so long, C:
>drive!).  Urine is full of electrolytes and is a great (relatively speaking)
>conductor.  After blowdrying the unit out and replacing the batteries, I get
>the same whine and no screen.
>
>No, I haven't backed anything up (the cable just arrived last night).  I lost
>my phone directory, inpatient and outpatient databases, schedules, Harriet
>Lane formulary (typed-in by hand), medical calculator, and medical databases
>compiled from a variety of sources.
>
>Sigh.
>
>Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can suggest a
>repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to salvage this
>little unit
>(which I love).
>
>Now I'm even more depressed.
>
>Sincerely yours,
>   Terry Chun, MD
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 00:31:01 -0600
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              "John L. Stanley" <jls@GOLDENGATE.NET>
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Subject:      LX-Tools for DOS ??

  Has anyone ever gotten LX-Tools to compile and run under DOS or as a set of
Win32 console applications?

  If not, would anyone be willing to look into it?  This would be a real
god-send for automating backup and maintenance operations between the palmtop
and a Windows or DOS desktop machine.

  Thanks!
      ... JLS

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 01:56:05 -0500
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For anyone having trouble with Transfile 200 maybe you should try
synching with the AC adapter. It seems that whenver I don't use the
adapter I will get an error message stating that I lost the connection
even though I haven't lost it. Tonight I backedup my entire flashcard
(40 megs) using my AC adapter while uding Transfile and I had clear
sailing the entire way. It's worth a try.
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:44:09 +0100
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Relating to connectivity with a PC, for the 100LX. I manage data
transfer at the maximum rate (115200) by adding an extra ferrite sleeve
to the connectivity cable. I loop the cable through the ferrite on the
LX end, beside the integrated ferrite. I never  have any data transfer
problems since.

>----------
>From:  Phil DrummondÝSMTP:phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM¨
>Sent:  31 March 1998 16:00
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Re: Amiga-to-200lx connection
>
>I'm not an Amiga user... yet, but I have had problems with Zmodem
>transfers also.  It could be a processor overhead problem ,with the
>200lx.  Try reducing the data rate and see if Zmodem transfers get more
>stable.  I think this because my x2/8meg palmtop seems to be able to
>transfer files faster (Zmodem) than my "old stand-by" 200lx.  In the end
>I gave up on Zmodem and use Xmodem most of the time.
>
>Phil
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Hi

I am finding that none of the dates from 11 May 98 to 18 May 98 can be found
in my appointment book. As soon as I try to go there, I get the message,
"Record not found".

I have tried running garlic.exe to no avail, and also tried extracting the
dates before and after into another appointbook book, all to no avail. Does
anyone have any more ideas?

Regards

Max

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 21:56:55 +0000
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              AL <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
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I'm not agree with you.
I think it's more easy and cheaper to buy a small black box
to connect the LX to a PC keyboard, than to use a special IR Keyboard.
Juste think if you have to carry you IR keyboard to your office or when you
are going oversea!
It's so easy to ask for a spare keyboard. All the compagny have one.

For myself I don't care if I can't find the green (or blue) key on it.
the raison I would like to have a PC keyboard is juste for typing text.
regards
Alain

PS: is someone can tell me if the key are geen ore blue?
> better project would be to write a software driver for the Keytronics IR
> series of keyboards.  The project would require no additional hardware,
> the keyboard has it's own power supply (4 AA cells) and the palmtop has
> IR built-in.
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:30:43 -0600
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, AL wrote:

> PS: is someone can tell me if the key are geen ore blue?


Ah...  the age-old debate in my family.  To me that color is
blue, but if you ask my brother I'm sure he would say green.

If it weren't so obvious, I would say today that they are yellow!

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 07:42:08 -0600
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ÝSNIP, story of urine-soaked palmtop...¨
> Any suggestions?

I have to agree with the previous posts about rinsing the unit with
water in some manner.  The easiest, but probably less thorough, would
somehow rinse it as is, case and all.  If you're experienced with
dismantling your palmtop, you could probably do a better job
rinsing at the circuit card level.

I don't know how this would work with the palmtop, but one standard
PWA (Printed Wiring Assembly) manufacturing process is cleaning,
where any excess flux and debris is washed from the board.  Different
techniques are used, but we use a dishwasher (without soap) here at
work.  (Of course, this requires that we use water soluable flux).
Don't know if the palmtop PWAs are suitable for a dishwasher or
not - some boards have paper-based components or items, which would
clearly be a no-no.

But I wouldn't let the urine stay.  If you already have a busted
unit, I would think rinsing it with clean (distilled would be fine)
water either at the assembly or PWA level would be important.  The
sooner the better.  If you were to subsequently give up and send it
to HP for servicing, I don't think they could complain about such a
cleansing - it would have been far worse to let the urine sit there
for 2 weeks. (They might complain if you had dismantled the unit -
don't know).

Just my $0.02 worth.  Good luck, and don't focus so closely/long on
the ears next time...

-Chris Lott

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:40:46 +0200
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I had this message quite often in the past. The solution I found was to
convert the appt database file with GBDump to comma delimited and inspect
the file. In my case I found that the first line was corrupt. I simply
deleted that line and reimported my file and it was okay. No problems had
ever since.

Frank


|Hi
|
|I am finding that none of the dates from 11 May 98 to 18 May 98 can be
found
|in my appointment book. As soon as I try to go there, I get the message,
|"Record not found".
|
|I have tried running garlic.exe to no avail, and also tried extracting the
|dates before and after into another appointbook book, all to no avail. Does
|anyone have any more ideas?
|
|Regards
|
|Max
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 05:47:58 -0800
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On Tue, 31 Mar 1998, Terrence Chun wrote:
> Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal 2-week old baby boy)
> who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears and not at his
> aim, I didn't notice that he was urinating until I began to feel wet.  He had
> successfully urinated into my coat pocket, soaking my 200lx/flashcard.  I
<snip>
>
> Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can suggest a
> repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to salvage this
> little unit

Tough luck Terry. Shier Systems is in Westlake Village, but I'm not sure
they can offer much in the way of repair services.

I suppose you have nothing to lose by following other posters' suggestion
to remove all the batteries and rinse the unit in distilled / purified /
demineralized (I forget which) water, and letting it dry.

Perhaps you should do the same for the flashcard and take it to someone
(or a store) with a laptop and see if the files are intact. Good luck.

Might want to keep an eye out for a spare used 200LX. It won't be as nice
as your souped up unit, but slow data is worth a lot more than no data
(assuming your flash card is still good).

- Longden (also in Los Angeles)

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:47:39 -0500
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tchun@UCLA.EDU on 03/31/98 08:25:33 PM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
      tchun@UCLA.EDU

To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  The End? Occupational hazards.




This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had) a 200lx
6meg
(thanks, Julie) with MegaHertz2144 (thanks, Ralph) and 16meg Flashcard
(thanks, Mark).  My serial cable just arrived yesterday (thanks, other
Mark)
and I had been successfully transferring files recommended through this
mailing list from my Amiga to the 200lx (thanks, Amiganauts).
<snip>
Would suggest the best possible solution would be to get some DI (dionized
water) from a semiconductor plant (do you have any friends in the semi
business?) and to thoroughly wash your 200LX in the DI water and let dry.
Alternatively, the distilled water would probably work.
Rgds...Jim J.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:01:43 -0500
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Hi group-

Well - it's happening again.  Email downloading (with Post/LX) stalled
with "deleting message on host" in the status window.  I'm reasonably
sure that the problem is with the ISP and not Post.  It looks like the
host isn't responding to the command to delete the message, and Post
times out while waiting...

One interesting thing - when I took a look at a printout of the problem
message, I found the last line of the header reads "Status: RO"  -
(Read-Only??).  Does anyone know if this might be the cause of the
problem?  The Status line of the header is usually "Status:  "  (no
status indicator)

I have MaxSegmentSize=3D512  in the Ýsetup¨ section of the WWW
configuration file.  This seemed to have solved the problem until
now.


Thanks

-PR
------------

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Is this an April Fools Gag ??

> This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had) a
> 200lx
> 6meg
> (thanks, Julie) with MegaHertz2144 (thanks, Ralph) and 16meg Flashcard
> (thanks, Mark).  My serial cable just arrived yesterday (thanks, other
> Mark)
> and I had been successfully transferring files recommended through
> this
> mailing list from my Amiga to the 200lx (thanks, Amiganauts).
> <snip>
> Would suggest the best possible solution would be to get some DI
> (dionized
> water) from a semiconductor plant (do you have any friends in the semi
> business?) and to thoroughly wash your 200LX in the DI water and let
> dry.
> Alternatively, the distilled water would probably work.
> Rgds...Jim J.
>

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 08:29:51 -0800
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Rowsell, Tom wrote:

> Is this an April Fools Gag ??

Terry (the original poster) and the followup are all regulars, so I doubt
it's a gag. But if it was...well it breaks up my day.

Sorta makes you wonder tho... if someone launched a nuclear strike against
us today, whether the defenders would pause to consider the same question.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:55:04 -0400
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        >Terry (the original poster) and the followup are all regulars,
so I doubt
        >it's a gag. But if it was...well it breaks up my day.

        Yeah...justing thinking of a Baby peeing on a palmtop in a
pocket certainly broke me up  :)

        Tom

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 12:17:33 -0500
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Hi people!

Anybody interested in used 200LX/2Mb Ram. In excellent condition. Price $200 + S&H. I'll throw in Maxtor 3.5Mb flash card for additional $50.
Don't worry, I'm not abandoning 200LX <g>, I just bought one too many!

Interested parties, please e-mail me privately. I have a feeling it's gonna go fast, so be quick!

Nedim.

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I'm sorry, that was 1 (one) Mb 200LX. Sorry about that. I think the price is still reasonable, but if you disagree, let me know what you are prepared to pay.

Thanks again.

Nedim.

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:35:49 -0700
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This is directed to those that do not use a modem with their palmtop, but
use their HPLX in additiion to a desktop PC.

I do not use my HP200 to access my mail or connect in any way to a server.
I do, however, use my HP200 to connect to my PC, transfer my email in the
Eudora .MBX format. In this way, I can read my mail at any time - even
"during those boring meetings." I have transfered book chapters, news,
anything on the internet can find its way to my HP.  Reading a mailbox file
as a text file using the memo function is actually very efficient and fast
if you use the find function. In reading the letters on this mailing list
for instance, I search for the word "Status:" which appears as the last
line of the header. The beginning of each message, therefor, is readily
accessible.

I save desired  information for later use by cutting and pasting from the
memo function to a phonebook set up to receive the information. I have a
"phonebook" called HPLX as well as many other phonebooks to accept
informaton from cooking mailing lists or business related mailing lists.

I realize that this information would be useful to few but I am always
interested in how others use this wonderful machine and thought I would
contribute this.

Carol








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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 10:04:08 -0800
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On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Carol wrote:
> I save desired  information for later use by cutting and pasting from the
> memo function to a phonebook set up to receive the information. I have a
> "phonebook" called HPLX as well as many other phonebooks to accept
> informaton from cooking mailing lists or business related mailing lists.

Just curious...why a Phonebook vs a NoteTaker file?

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 11:19:24 -0700
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I use Phonebook because I have software that mimics the Phonebook on my PC,
but I do not have the software required to mimic NoteTaker.  Because of
this I have become quite proficient in using Phonebooks on my HPLX and on
my desktop and moving them back and forth between the two readily and
easily.  I have a Phonebook that is titled "TOPALM.PDB" and I know that
that is a one-way phonebook going from my PC to my Palm and not the
reverse.  Only once did I erase (or overwrite) a phonebook.

At 10:04 AM 4/1/98 -0800, Longden C. Loo wrote:
>Just curious...why a Phonebook vs a NoteTaker file?
>
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 13:21:30 -0700
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     Hi!
     My experience with this program was dismal at best. But then I went
     out and spend $50.00 on a high speed port for COM 3 + 4. Now I have no
     more problems with interrupted file transfer. But it is a good idea do
     put the LX on a AC adapter.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Date:    3/31/98 11:56 PM


For anyone having trouble with Transfile 200 maybe you should try
synching with the AC adapter. It seems that whenver I don't use the
adapter I will get an error message stating that I lost the connection
even though I haven't lost it. Tonight I backedup my entire flashcard
(40 megs) using my AC adapter while uding Transfile and I had clear
sailing the entire way. It's worth a try.
Tony Guzewicz

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I like that too. An IR keyboard may not
be much less than the Newton KB, or more
available.

AL wrote:

> I'm not agree with you.
> I think it's more easy and cheaper to buy a small black box
> to connect the LX to a PC keyboard, than to use a special IR Keyboard.
> Juste think if you have to carry you IR keyboard to your office or when you

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:25:31 -0800
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Christof

The subject said SQL2 on the 200LX.

> Is it possible or asking for too much ?
> Any comments appreciated.

My question back, before I answer, is What will you do with it
on the palmtop? You must be aware of the significant
computational resources required by SQL to do its stuff. You must
be aware that even a double-speeded palmtop is only about
16MHz, and is about as fast as a PC-AT! So you won't get back
any results that will be pleasant. (sort of like this: turn it
on, start the application, and go away for a month!)

Secondly, SQL's power is in its ability to process huge
amounts of data. Tables on the order of millions of rows! This
only takes oh, 200-300GIGA Bytes. Where do you propose to
store the stuff? (I know Bernard Torbik announced that at the
end of the week he starts selling 190MB PCMCIAs! - but that is
nothing compared to the data normally processed by such
applications.

So no power, and no way to store the data leaves this an
"inappropriate" application to run on the palmtop.
Inappropriate in the sense that it makes no sense!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:25:28 -0800
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Dean,

I assume you mean Post/LX, correct? I also assume you decided
to use the public list instead of support@dasoft.com (which is
is fine, your choice, but may bore others to tears! ;-)... )

> I'm using Post without a glitch, except that I have to get out of my
> sysmgr to accually compose something.  Then all of a sudden, I get a
> email that my isp (small for a reason!) is upgrading it's software.  =
Now
> all that I get is the pop3 password invalid!!  What the hea?  Any
> thoughts?  Dean

Yes, they do it a lot! No idea what exactly they di for you.
How do you know the password is incorrect? Are you getting
some indication, message?

In the case of pop3 password, probably what they have done is
make two pairs od id/password. One to login into their
network. The second pair is for accessing email. Did you get
any message from them telling you you need to set up another
login/password with them? if not, You can try this too: Run
SETUP.EXE. Press the menu button for Mail. Then tab to the
login and password field and type your login and password.

Good luck. Let me know at support@dasoft how this worked out,
or if you get more info from the ISP.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:25:34 -0800
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pull the batteries, and dunk it in distilled water to dissolve
and remove the electrolytes. Then slowly dry it for quite some time. Some
people have placed it an oven - BUT DID NOT TURN IT ON!!! Just
hte warmish air in there and the heat from the pilot.

I am also in LA, West LA to be precise. Be glad to look at it.
Call me (phone number sent by email).

Good luck.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:50:06 +0100
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Subject:      Small Email/News prog for 200LX ?
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Hi :-)

I have a 200LX and would like to be able to install a small email and
newsreader (offline\) so that I can connect download then read offline.
I have found that the KA9Q program to be difficult to install and I can
not get Nettamer working.
I have a 2Mb model and no memory card.
Is there something small and simple that I can use for this ?

TIA
Ross
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 22:44:06 +0100
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In message <35219366.66F6@geocities.com>, carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
writes
>I have had an idea. I noticed that this list is kinda hard to find. I
>started looking arround, and found that allot of the bigger pages (ie
>technotes, malka's page, etc...) are also hard to find. Since I am a
>user of the TI-85 graphing calculator, I started to look at their page,
>and I had an idea. We need a centrilized page that it easy to find. We
>need to make out presence known so that those thousands of people out
>ther who dont know about the existing 100lx community to be able to find
>it and join it. To this end, I am now starting up a project. Those who
>feel they want to contribute, e-mail me and we will begin organizing.
>Thats all I have at this stage. Thank you.
>
>Daniel Jackson <-- Yes, Ill finaly tell you my name.
>Carpman the Great
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I am interested.

Sounds good
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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:43:52 -0600
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      XT (DOS) Emulator Out

Ian Dean released a demo of his XT emulator for CE machines today.  It is
available at:

http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

Dean says it will only work on the following machines currently:

HP320LX (CE 1.0 & CE 2.0)
HP360LX
HP620LX
Sharp HC4100
Sharp HC4500
Casio A20.

I guess this puts a couple more DOS options on the block assuming you
don't mind a half-speed, extra-large brick hanging off your belt.

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 15:53:20 -0800
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Peniel:

> Well - it's happening again.  Email downloading (with Post/LX) stalled
> with "deleting message on host" in the status window.  I'm reasonably
> sure that the problem is with the ISP and not Post.  It looks like the
> host isn't responding to the command to delete the message, and Post
> times out while waiting...

Yuck! The exact same thing happened to me on this very pass! I
am hoping that the new version due this week will lick these
problems!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 16:02:29 -0800
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Hi,

I'm currently runing DOS Quicken 3 on my 1Mb 100LX with the help of a =
JAM 2Mb SRAM card. I need to upgrade to at least Quicken 5 for the year =
2000. I have Quicken 7 but it's too big to fit my SRAM card. Does anyone =
out there have either 5 or 6?

George

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Today I dropped my palmtop from just about hip height onto a hard surface.
It landed squarely on its bottom.  This has been about the 24th time I've
dropped the poor thing (dropped it twice last week) but this was the FIRST
TIME it refused to start up!  PANIC MODE.  Turning it on only resulted in
an all black screen.  If I pressed some keys like ctl-alt-del or the reset
sequence, sometimes it would beep, other times the screen would cycle
unevenly through various shades.  Thinking I had nothing else to lose, I
removed all the batteries (all my data is kept on the flash card so at
least I need it would be recoverable) and opened up the palmtop.

I have never done this before but I didn't see what harm could come of it.
I couldn't see anything wrong so I put it back together and hoped that it
would come up ok when I turned it on (yeah, I use that process on my Jeep,
too <g>).  It didn't work.

Then I spent a half hour going through the various newsgroups looking for
used HPs for sale.  I wanted to buy one RIGHT NOW.  Having fired off a
bunch of emails (and hoping I didn't sound too desperate), I got back to my
work.  45 minutes later, back at my desk, I decided to open it up again.
This time I noticed that after I separated the motherboard from the lower
case, the ribbon cable which is attached to the screen was no longer
attached to the underside of the motherboard.  I figured out how to
re-attach it and hopefully thought that I had found the problem (although
the last time I opened it up, the cable was attached).  Turned it on.  No
luck.  Now the screen stayed clear...no sequence of keys would produce
anything on the screen, no even the all-black display.  "Oh, what the
hell," I thought.  I opened it up one more time and while I was poking at
stuff, I decided to disconnect the ribbon cable.  When I removed it, I
noticed that it was possible to slide it into the socket through the bottom
of the slide-in snap rather than over top of it.  Hmmm...  So I re-attached
it in this "new" way and voila!  Good ol' DOS popped up when I pushed the
ON button!!!!!!

So if the same thing happens to you, check that ribbon cable and make sure
it's connected properly.  BTW, I'm no hardware guy so if I can do it, you
can too!

Now I just have to re-install my shortcuts & stuff.



...lars (still going to buy a backup unit, though)

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Date:         Wed, 1 Apr 1998 18:38:00 -0600
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Small Email Program

For a small email program I suggest that you go to:

http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw

and grab a copy of Goin' Postal by Steven Lawson. It's in it's late beta
stage but is one heck of a cool pop3 email program. WWW/LX & POST/LX, from
what I understand, is also a good set-up but if all you need is email access
and want something small (it'll run on a 1MB 100LX) Goin' Postal is the way
to go :) Of course, these are my opinion, and you how opinions go.....

Jeff


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Terrence, try soaking or rinsing the unit in distilled water.  Then let =
it dry out or bake dry it at a very looooow temp.  Im an old Biomed =
Tech. and this will sometimes resolve the problem.

Good luck.

----------
From:   Terrence Chun
Sent:   Tuesday, March 31, 1998 5:25 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        The End? Occupational hazards.

This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had) a 200lx =
6meg
(thanks, Julie) with MegaHertz2144 (thanks, Ralph) and 16meg Flashcard
(thanks, Mark).  My serial cable just arrived yesterday (thanks, other =
Mark)
and I had been successfully transferring files recommended through this
mailing list from my Amiga to the 200lx (thanks, Amiganauts).

Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal 2-week old =
baby boy)
who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears and not =
at his
aim, I didn't notice that he was urinating until I began to feel wet.  =
He had
successfully urinated into my coat pocket, soaking my 200lx/flashcard.  =
I
tried to dry it off, but when I turned it on, the speaker started to =
emit a
high-pitched whine.  I took out the main batteries, but the whine only =
became
softer and did not stop until I took out the backup battery (so long, C:
drive!).  Urine is full of electrolytes and is a great (relatively =
speaking)
conductor.  After blowdrying the unit out and replacing the batteries, I =
get
the same whine and no screen.

No, I haven't backed anything up (the cable just arrived last night).  I =
lost
my phone directory, inpatient and outpatient databases, schedules, =
Harriet
Lane formulary (typed-in by hand), medical calculator, and medical =
databases
compiled from a variety of sources.

Sigh.

Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can suggest =
a
repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to salvage =
this
little unit
(which I love).

Now I'm even more depressed.

Sincerely yours,
   Terry Chun, MD

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From:         PALMTOPS@AIRGUNHQ.COM
Organization: AirPower Information Services (610) 259-2193
Subject:      Re: Reading mail/internet "stuff" on HP200
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.1.32.19980401103549.007d4d70@totacc.com>

HM>I save desired  information for later use by cutting and pasting from the
  >memo function to a phonebook set up to receive the information. I have a
  >"phonebook" called HPLX as well as many other phonebooks to accept
  >informaton from cooking mailing lists or business related mailing lists.

HM>I realize that this information would be useful to few but I am always
  >interested in how others use this wonderful machine and thought I would
  >contribute this.

It's amazing how many different solutions we come up with to meet our
individual needs. <g>.

 * 1st 2.00 ~ Madness takes it's toll.  Please have exact change.

--
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I'm no electrical engineer, but an industrial pharmacist.  I
can't recommend or not recommend rinsing your palmtop, but I
can give you advice on the water you use.  Of course, don't use
Ringer's or any irrigants, but also, don't use common distilled
water.  It is 'distilled' by reverse osmosis, which is only as
good as the porosity od the filter they pressurize against.  If
you can get distilled water from a 'megapure' still (an actual
still) and can get it deionized, that would be your best bet.
 Even sterile water for injection has some ionns present (it's
only sterile).  If you have access to a chemistry lab (UCLA?) or a
pharmaceutics lab (USC?), they will most certainly have a setup
like the one I'm describing.  Even some blood chemistry labs
(hospital?) may have a still.  They will likely have a
deionized system as well.  Talk nicely, and I'm sure they
would give you some.  Be sure to rinse your glassware well -
some surfactants can leave behind some pretty stubborn
residues.  Maybe this is overkill, but if I were rinsing mine,
...

> ----------
> From:   Terrence Chun
> Sent:   Tuesday, March 31, 1998 5:25 PM
> To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject:        The End? Occupational hazards.

>
> This may very well be my last post to this group.  I have (had)
> a 200lx 6meg
> (thanks, Julie) with MegaHertz2144 (thanks, Ralph) and 16meg
> Flashcard
> (thanks, Mark).  My serial cable just arrived yesterday
> (thanks, other Mark)
> and I had been successfully transferring files recommended
> through this
> mailing list from my Amiga to the 200lx (thanks, Amiganauts).
>
> Well, I was examining a patient today (a perfectly normal
> 2-week old baby boy)
> who saw fit to pee all over me.  As I was looking into his ears
> and not at his
> aim, I didn't notice that he was urinating until I began to
> feel wet.  He had
> successfully urinated into my coat pocket, soaking my
> 200lx/flashcard.  I
> tried to dry it off, but when I turned it on, the speaker
> started to emit a
> high-pitched whine.  I took out the main batteries, but the
> whine only became
> softer and did not stop until I took out the backup battery (so
> long, C:
> drive!).  Urine is full of electrolytes and is a great
> (relatively speaking)
> conductor.  After blowdrying the unit out and replacing the
> batteries, I get
> the same whine and no screen.
>
> No, I haven't backed anything up (the cable just arrived last
> night).  I lost
> my phone directory, inpatient and outpatient databases,
> schedules, Harriet
> Lane formulary (typed-in by hand), medical calculator, and
> medical databases
> compiled from a variety of sources.
>
> Sigh.
>
> Any suggestions?  I live in the Los Angeles area, if anyone can
> suggest a
> repair shop.  I'm not sure if it is possible/worth it to try to
> salvage this
> little unit
> (which I love).
>
> Now I'm even more depressed.
>
> Sincerely yours,
>
>
>    Terry Chun, MD

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>Christof
>
>The subject said SQL2 on the 200LX.
>
> Is it possible or asking for too much ?
> Any comments appreciated.
<snip>

I hope you want it for educational purposes and not production<g>!

I've been able to run SSQL 3.1 from Silvaware on my 200LX/2Mb. The whole thing can be trimmed down to about 250K. The engine is fast, SQL reasonably implemented, and the entire thing is pretty cool once you see it. Database files are DBF so you can browse them with any standard tool (like DBU from good old Clipper). It is still *far* from real-life usability (at least on 200LX)! Good for learning SQL, bad for betting your business on it!

Nedim.

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I've done a speed comparison between JAM and Stacker 3.0 and found JAM =
to be faster.  I wanted to run the same tests on  Stacker 4.0 but Stac =
Elec. discontinued sales on Sept. 1st 1997.  I was wondering if someone =
might send me a copy of Stacker 4.0 so I could finish my comparison?

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Subject:      Re: "Record not found" in HP200 appointment book

I am finding that none of the dates from 11 May 98 to 18 May 98 can be found
in my appointment book. As soon as I try to go there, I get the message,
"Record not found".

I have tried running garlic.exe to no avail, and also tried extracting the
dates before and after into another appointbook book, all to no avail. Does
anyone have any more ideas?

  Well, I found that the Windows version of the HPLX utilities that HP
released for it's laptop units is much better at dealing with problem
appointment books than even the long trusted "Garlic"....  I had an
appointment file over 64k with dozens of unbacked-up entries in it.  My
machine crashed and trashed the file.  Nothing I did was able to do anything
to save it.  I finally, out of desperation found a copy of the Windows
utilities and tried importing the damaged file into a fresh appointment file.
 It managed to salvage over 95% of the entries and the resulting file doesn't
have the "Record not found" problem.  Give it a try.

  (I'm -very- sorry, but I don't remember where I found the Windows
utilities, but maybe someone else knows where they are?? <hint><hint>)

  Good luck!

---
 John L. Stanley <jls@goldengate.net>
Software Developer -- Dynasoft Systems

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Nedim:

> I hope you want it for educational purposes and not production<g>!

I don't want it at all! I cannot imagine running the payroll
application for a medium size company with say 2500 employees
on my palmtop :-) ...

Anyway, educational purposes makes sense, I like that.

> I've been able to run SSQL 3.1 from Silvaware on my 200LX/2Mb. The =
whole thing can be trimmed down to about 250K. The engine is fast, SQL =
reasonably implemented, and the entire thing is pretty cool once you see =
it. Database files are DBF so you can bro
> wse them with any standard tool (like DBU from good old Clipper). It is =
still *far* from real-life usability (at least on 200LX)! Good for =
learning SQL, bad for betting your business on it!

Well, how many databases were involved in the relational
"database"? :)

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I am looking for a small hplx palmtop utility called exit.exm that makes
terminating all programs really easy and quick. Didn't find it on SUPER

Thanks

Frank

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Date:         Thu, 2 Apr 1998 07:52:38 -0700
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I think Foxpro 2.0 does some SQL. I don't use the SQL stuff but I write
lots of apps for myself using the standard Xbase stuff.

Here's an excerpt from the help file:

ÖÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ·
º          SELECT - SQL           º
ÓÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄĽ
SELECT ÝALL | DISTINCT¨
        Ý<alias>.¨<select_item>
                ÝAS <column_name>¨
                Ý, Ý<alias>.¨<select_item>
                ÝAS <column_name>¨ ...¨
        FROM <database> Ý<local_alias>¨
                Ý, <database>
                Ý<local_alias>¨ ...¨
        ÝÝINTO <destination>¨
                | ÝTO FILE <file>
                ÝADDITIVE¨ | TO PRINTER¨¨
        ÝNOCONSOLE¨
        ÝPLAIN¨
        ÝNOWAIT¨
        ÝWHERE <joincondition>
                ÝAND <joincondition> ...¨
                        ÝAND | OR
                        <filtercondition>
                        ÝAND | OR
                        <filtercondition> ...¨¨¨
        ÝGROUP BY <groupcolumn>
                Ý, <groupcolumn> ...¨¨
        ÝHAVING <filtercondition>¨
        ÝUNION ÝALL¨ <SELECT command>¨
        ÝORDER BY <order_item>
                ÝASC | DESC¨
                Ý, <order_item>
                ÝASC | DESC¨...¨¨



On 1998-03-31 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Is it possible or asking for too much ?
   >Any comments appreciated.
   >Best regards,
   >Christof
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On 1998-04-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Christof
   >The subject said SQL2 on the 200LX.
   >> Is it possible or asking for too much ?
   >> Any comments appreciated.
   >My question back, before I answer, is What will you do with it
   >on the palmtop? You must be aware of the significant
   >computational resources required by SQL to do its stuff. You must
snip

   >So no power, and no way to store the data leaves this an
   >"inappropriate" application to run on the palmtop.
   >Inappropriate in the sense that it makes no sense!
   >Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Maybe he wants a familiar environment for ad-hoc queries. I know that
having to learn new syntax is a pain in the ass. I often get mixed up
between Xbase, KSH, VB, LXB, DOS and Perl. I'm not a programmer but I
dabble a lot:-).


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Wampum (aka, dBase Lite) offers a "fill out the form" query,
for flat files and with no SQL language. I think thay can
even be stored. So you can build up a special "Report"
with custom select criteria and report fields.

Edward A. Padin wrote:

> On 1998-04-01 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>    >Christof
>    >The subject said SQL2 on the 200LX.
>    >> Is it possible or asking for too much ?
>    >> Any comments appreciated.
> Maybe he wants a familiar environment for ad-hoc queries. I know that
> having to learn new syntax is a pain in the ass. I often get mixed up
> between Xbase, KSH, VB, LXB, DOS and Perl. I'm not a programmer but I
> dabble a lot:-).
>
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At 01:25 AM 4/2/98 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote:
>Nedim:
>
>> I hope you want it for educational purposes and not production<g>!
>
>I don't want it at all! I cannot imagine running the payroll
>application for a medium size company with say 2500 employees
>on my palmtop :-) ...

I can't imagine that either. But, when you think about it, maybe app in C with fast DB engine would be able to! If Clipper on 286 did it 10 (or so) years ago, why can't 200LX? But again, why would somebody do that<g>?

>Anyway, educational purposes makes sense, I like that.

Well, there's an idea for new HP sales pitch! How many "experts" are occupying full blown PCs, pretending they do stuff and actually read Dilbert on the Web while trying to learn what the hell are those things management is telling them to do? It's cheaper to stick 200LX in their pockets and fill it with (tolerably) working versions of their development tools. Unless it's mainframe assembler, I don't know of any language that you can't find working version for 200LX!

Nedim.

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Max, I posted a similar message as garlic cannot fix my appt book
either.  nobody has responded, so I guess we're out of luck until there
is a new utility available.

I don't think the structure of the appt book is too tough, so I think
that i'd be able to write something in perl to fix it.

it'd be nice to have some documentation about the format of the file
however.

.M

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Date:    Wed, 1 Apr 1998 09:25:37 +0100
From:    Max Blumberg <max@MAXB.COM>
Subject: "Record not found" in HP200 appointment book

Hi

I am finding that none of the dates from 11 May 98 to 18 May 98 can be
found
in my appointment book. As soon as I try to go there, I get the message,
"Record not found".

I have tried running garlic.exe to no avail, and also tried extracting
the
dates before and after into another appointbook book, all to no avail.
Does
anyone have any more ideas?

Regards

Max



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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, M. Erling wrote:

> Max, I posted a similar message as garlic cannot fix my appt book
> either.  nobody has responded, so I guess we're out of luck until there
> is a new utility available.
> I don't think the structure of the appt book is too tough, so I think
> that i'd be able to write something in perl to fix it.
> it'd be nice to have some documentation about the format of the file
> however.

I just got the same error (Record not found) the other day, and the only
way I fixed it was to restore the appt.adb from a backup.  Then yesterday
it happened again, so I just renamed it to appt.adb and created a blank
appointment file.  This is obviously not a good idea for most people, who
value the contents of their appointment book.

In any case, I think the SDK or LXREF has info on the structure of the
appointment book, but when I just went to check the ftp.libertynet.org
site for LXREF updates, everything was gone!  What's going on,
hplx@comports.com?

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By the way, my record book was a little over 57,000 bytes when I got the
"Record not found" error.  I suspect perhaps size may have something to do
with it...

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Ed, Nedim pointed out the educational value, and I have to
agree here! I also agree with you that the syntax among the
various products is less than unified <G>...

When you say ad hoc queries you mean someone keeps
a huge relational database on the palmtop? This generally
means _several_ databases, all relating to one another via the
application or query. I wonder about that.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9423620
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If anyone needs a maxi-type LX, I need to sell a Gateway Handbook 486 in
8/120/mono. It's currently running 6.22 and 3.11. Includes two batteries, 2
AC adapters, pc card modem, leather shoulder case, and probably some other
stuff. I can get the dimensions if need be. $500 or offer.

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My appt.adb file is at 65798.  I hope I'm not going to fall into the
pit.  :)

I haven't had any problems, but I'm following this thread just in case.
Good luck and if I think of something constructive (other than this "me
too" post) I'll try to help.

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 2 Apr 1998 09:20:01 -0800
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> By the way, my record book was a little over 57,000 bytes when I got the
> "Record not found" error.  I suspect perhaps size may have something to do
> with it...

Mine's at 104k at I don't see any errors (tho that hardly means there's
none there).

This is why I asked a few weeks back if someone had a nice .?db checking
utility to detect errors. Several posters responded with a variety of
viable, but unwieldy solutions. Should be a simple program to write, for
anyone versed in the LX database structure.

If we could detect errors early on, it may be easier to correct
downstream. All we need is something that will read the database format
and check all the pointers and what-not and display a nice little report
on any errors found. Maybe even set an error code for a batch file to
detect. Note I'm just asking to check...not correct. Corrective measures
usually require a lot more intelligence and sometimes involve tossing
records that you may not to discard automatically.

That's my take on how we'd do something on the mainframe. Is it asking for
too much on a PC?

Nor am I immune to the "record not found" problem in appt.adb. I've been
there. I've learned to close apps before doing anything risky, and maybe
that has helped me to steer clear of the error for the last year or so.

- Longden

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Me interrested, too.

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> Date: Thursday, April 02, 1998 12:44 AM
>
> In message <35219366.66F6@geocities.com>, carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
> writes
> >I have had an idea. I noticed that this list is kinda hard to find. I
> >started looking arround, and found that allot of the bigger pages (ie
> >technotes, malka's page, etc...) are also hard to find. Since I am a
> >user of the TI-85 graphing calculator, I started to look at their page,
> >and I had an idea. We need a centrilized page that it easy to find. We
> >need to make out presence known so that those thousands of people out
> >ther who dont know about the existing 100lx community to be able to find
> >it and join it. To this end, I am now starting up a project. Those who
> >feel they want to contribute, e-mail me and we will begin organizing.
> >Thats all I have at this stage. Thank you.
> >
> >Daniel Jackson <-- Yes, Ill finaly tell you my name.
> >Carpman the Great
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> I am interested.
>
> Sounds good
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I'm cleaning out my cabinets, and just put a bunch of old software
up for sale on eBay  (FoxPro, Managing Your Money, Stacker, etc).
I'll be adding more throughout the weekend.  You may get a listing
of everything that I've posted at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=thoover@pobox.com

The above link is also accessible from my home page.
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Battlog reports (F-10 key);

Battery Run   =   24.5 Hr
Charge Time   =    0.0 Hr
First Mesure... 02/16/98 09:04
last  Mesure... 04/02/98 13.06
Low Warning!... Main=0 Bkup=o Card=1
Biggest Drop!   0.83V 02/16/98 09:04
Main lowest!    2.21V 02/16/98 09:04 (recorded before replacing cells)
Wired Serial   =   4.0 Hr
Infrared       =   0.3 Hr
Light Sleep    =   None

I saved the old log, cleared the current log, replaced the cells and the
results are above.  I haven't heard of anyone else realizing battery
life like this on a x2/8meg unit, so I figured I would post this.

If you want this log to compare with your stuff, I'll be glad to email
it to you.

Phil

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Well folks,

I'm away today for my trip to the UK and particularly Cornwall.

I have assembled my road warrior kit of 2MB 200lx, Worldport pocket
modem, cables, and recently purchased phone adapter.  I've even setup a
palmtop.com address so I can use the built in cc:Mail while I'm away.
Thanks Martin Paul.

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread that I started.  This is
what this list is all about.

I particularly enjoyed the comments about the local beer, and yes, I
will definately try out The Blue Anchor pub in Helston (I'll be staying
about 5 miles from there) and perhaps the Bird of Paradise in Hayle if
I'm in the area.

I'll let you all know if I have problems with customs or the modem
connecting.

Cheers :-)


Brian
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On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:46:20, Frank Ubachs wrote:

> I am looking for a small hplx palmtop utility called exit.exm that=
 makes
> terminating all programs really easy and quick. Didn't find it on=
 SUPER

Tasklist.zip came with the following bonus programs look in bonus.zip.

closeall.exm
Closeall.exm closes all open task, including applications started by
MoreEXM.

terminat.exm
Terminat.exm terminates System Manager and transfer control to DOS.

Tasklist.zip can be found on the SUPER Site.

HTH

Regards,

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 / / / / / __ `__ \/ __ `/ __ \
/ /_/ / / / / / / / /_/ / / / / _ _
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Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Hello,

I just downloaded GP and trying to install it to my 100LX, but when I
running from DOS(without AppManager) all is fine and from AppManager no.
What is happened? Why it is so?

Sorry for my English....

Many thanks for all answers.

Alexander Stanovoy

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Date:         Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:03:54 -0600
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Are there any programs that can convert my system manager file into
one suitable for HDM?  I see from the documentation that a conversion
program is included for HPMENU, but not SYSMGR.

-Chris Lott

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I saw the post about someone having probems running Goin' Postal under
System Manager. Have you put the pipe comand after the executable command in
the command line where you add applications? The pipi command is '|'. You
should also add an upside down exclamation point and an upside down question
mark in the comments section. These will keep other programs from screwing
around with the Com port and the allow the program to exit without the
"press any key" screen. The pipe command gives Goin' Postal all available
system RAM, you should also check to see how much system RAM you have
allocated under set-up. I'm not sure exactly how much RAM the software
requires but I'm sure it's creator, Steve Lawson, will let all of us know.
To allocate just that amount to GP just add that number after the pipe
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My first posting served the purpose to find something to _learn SQL_
on the Palmtop. Thanks to the replies I know now that it really is
something like "asking for too much".
I knew that there are databases on the LX that handle a few SQL
commands (mostly "select") but not the full standard. As a different
implementation or a restricted command set would only confuse me in
my learning process I guess I have to stick to that huge and less
elegant NT machine running Oracle...

Thanks again for your comments !!

Regards,

Christof
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At 07:38 PM 4/1/1998 , you wrote:
>For a small email program I suggest that you go to:
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw
>
Will this run in my 620 LX ?
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A friend of mine and I have tried the Rayovac recharable batteries in the
palmtop.  They work and you can get your money's worth out of them BUT...
The discharge curve with the current needs of the palmtop keeps the use
before charging down to (as I remember) under 9 hours.  Some batteries are
more like 5 hours.  The charging system for the batteries is completely
different from NiCads.  The chargers monitor each battery independently and
I believe that the  chargers output is pulsed.  They make great radio and
flashlight batteries since they hold a charge for a long time, but their
voltage seems to drop of too fast in the palmtop.

Jerry

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Subject:      Re: Small Email/News prog for 200LX ?

For those who want to have the source code to the tools they
use, my LXPPP program gives you this functionality and includes
all source code - see my website (listed below) for details.

In message  <lPoYUQAOarI1EwZr@esox.demon.co.uk>, ross@ESOX.DEMON.CO.UK said:
> I have a 200LX and would like to be able to install a small email and
> newsreader (offline\) so that I can connect download then read offline.
> I have found that the KA9Q program to be difficult to install and I can
> not get Nettamer working.
> I have a 2Mb model and no memory card.
> Is there something small and simple that I can use for this ?

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Christof,

Sorry, I didn't get your initial post, but only a reply. As I said, SSQL is quite OK for learning SQL. (I think) it supports most of the standard SQLanguage. So YES, there is something you can learn SQL with on 200LX. It's quite ok, has that Borlandish character-windows interface and it stores stuff in DBF.

There maybe other solution, though I doubt it, since SQL wasn't that popular on DOS.

Info from the docs is:
Author: Steve Silva
Phone: 1-800-2424-PsL (1-800-242-4775)
1-713-524-6394
Fax: 1-713-524-6398
Compuserve Email: 71355,470
Snail mail:
PsL
P.O Box 35705
Houston, TX 77235-5705

I don't know if the product is still available (read abandonware or not)! If I'm not gonna be visited by FBI, I can post it to one of the abandonware sites.

Nedim.

>My first posting served the purpose to find something to _learn SQL_
>on the Palmtop. Thanks to the replies I know now that it really is
>something like "asking for too much".
>I knew that there are databases on the LX that handle a few SQL
>commands (mostly "select") but not the full standard. As a different
>implementation or a restricted command set would only confuse me in
>my learning process I guess I have to stick to that huge and less
>elegant NT machine running Oracle...
>
>Thanks again for your comments !!
>
>Regards,
>
>Christof

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Sorry,


>You  are   not  authorized  to  send   mail  to  the  HPLX-L   list  from  your
>jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG account.

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 13:44:51 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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I used a 700lx palmtop (with a NOKIA 2110 GSM cellular phone docked on
it).
In country supporttng GSM cellular phone network, it is a breeze to send
and receive your email anywhere without the hassle of carrying so many
adapters (I am not representing HP but merely a happy customer).
With the small POP3 email (GOIN' POSTAL) by Mr. Steve Lawson, I have
used
it in a train without any problem. For information, I downloaded 30
messages in 15 minutes of air time at baud rate of 9600 bps from this
list.

Understand that Europe have extensive GSM network, may be some part in
US,
for those interested in mobile solution it may be worth looking at.

Chin Jien Hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg


Brian Girling wrote:

> Well folks,
>
> I'm away today for my trip to the UK and particularly Cornwall.
>
> I have assembled my road warrior kit of 2MB 200lx, Worldport pocket
> modem, cables, and recently purchased phone adapter.  I've even setup a
> palmtop.com address so I can use the built in cc:Mail while I'm away.

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Hi all,

in case someone is interested, Mitch posted my map of the Munich Public
Transport System (S- and U-Bahn) (for stefan Peichls wonderful
LXMAP-Program) at http://www.palmtop.net/lxmap.html

Have a nice weekend, bye
Axel

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More comments on the "Renewal" type rechargeable alkalines and
the HP n00 palmtops;
The Renewal batteries seem to have higher internal resistance than
regular alkalines and are much higher than NiCds. This means that
the maximum current that they can provide is not as high (I can really
see this on my digital camera which draws over an amp!). In my HP200,
the Renewals (tm) will choke when I run my internal modem off of
battery power, whereas regular alkalines and NiCds are OK.
    Another thing about the Renewals is that you should recharge them
before they are completely discharged; the more recharging the better,
for maximum life of the cells.  I've given up using them because I can
buy AA alkalines locally for 20 cents each. Since each Renewal cell is
about $2, I would have to recharge them completely 10 times (assuming that
the had the capacity of regular alkalines, they are actually about 1300 mAH vs.

1600 mAH for regular alkalines) before I could even start "saving money".
-Bryan


-Bryan


Jerry Johnson wrote:

> A friend of mine and I have tried the Rayovac recharable batteries in the
> palmtop.  They work and you can get your money's worth out of them BUT...
> The discharge curve with the current needs of the palmtop keeps the use
> before charging down to (as I remember) under 9 hours.  Some batteries are
> more like 5 hours.  The charging system for the batteries is completely
> different from NiCads.  The chargers monitor each battery independently and
> I believe that the  chargers output is pulsed.  They make great radio and
> flashlight batteries since they hold a charge for a long time, but their
> voltage seems to drop of too fast in the palmtop.
>
> Jerry

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Phil Drummond wrote:

> Battery Run   =   24.5 Hr
...
> life like this on a x2/8meg unit, so I
> figured I would post this.

Okay, what's the catch?  What kind of
batteries?  Did you have a flash card,
and what brand?

Give us all the details.  I'm dying for
battery life like that.

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On Fri, Apr 03, 1998 at 09:34:20AM -0500, HPLX wrote:
> Phil Drummond wrote:
>
> > Battery Run   =   24.5 Hr
> ...
> > life like this on a x2/8meg unit, so I
> > figured I would post this.
>
> Okay, what's the catch?  What kind of
> batteries?  Did you have a flash card,
> and what brand?
>
> Give us all the details.  I'm dying for
> battery life like that.

I just recently changed my batteries in my x2/8meg unit when the battery
meter in Setup showed 3/4.  Buddy said that I had 25.23 hours.  They are
Energizer Lithium batteries.  This was the first change I made since getting
the unit.  The Buddy meter read ~3.0 almost the entire time.  The current
set shows 3.19 volts at 3.31 hours.  (Hmmm...  I have a bunch of time on
the system without Buddy running.  Probably more time on there than it
shows?)

Why did I change them without a warning?  Other folks around here use them
also and said that when Lithium batteries go, they GO. Right now!  I had
a need for extended use of my "external brain" ("other brain", "permanent
memory") that night and didn't want to loose power in the middle.  I am
very impressed with these batteries!

(By the way, I get them from work so cost is not a problem for me...)

jaime
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As you can see in my address, I work for a paging company.  Jaime
(another person  following this thread) said it, "(By the way, I get
them from work so cost is not a problem for me...)
" but... I don't get access to Lithium batteries only Alakalines.

The cells I'm using are Energizer INDUSTRIAL Alkalines.  They are black
with a green "be kind to the Earth" band around the top.  (funny, I
wonder why Eveready does not recycle these things. :/

I'm now at 24.8 hours and reading 2.39 volts. :)

Phil

Hey, if there's a Pagenet in your area, ask them for a pair of cells.
It won't do any good to say I said to, but if they are in the right
mood, they will probably give them to you.  :)

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 11:00:18 -0600
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I agree with the deal here, the rechargable alkalines are ok for some
things, but the 200lx would rather have "normal" alkalines.  I migrated
my Renewals to my IR keyboard (desktop PC) where they provide 3 or 4
weeks of use before needing a recharge.  Also when they do "die" it's
not a big deal because the Desktop can't care if the keyboard is there
or not. (the "docking station" provides keyboard "sense" to the
motherboard.)

So far, the best time-to-proformance I have seen is standard alkalines.
I tried Rat-shack's nickel-metal (mega-expencive) cells, great in
concept, but the cell voltage drops off to quickly to realize the
capacity of the cells.  Those are now in my Gameboy.  Radio Shack also
sells hi-capacity Ni-cads, these are my second choice and a pair of them
rides in my mini-mag light<slash>battery-holder as a spare set.  My
final comment on batterys is to the Lithium cell.  This is the optimal
battery for the hp200lx and my PC card modem has a set in it's little
"sack" for those time when it must be used without AC power.  If I could
afford Li cells for day-to-day use, I would glady use them.

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 09:35:36 -0800
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Hi,

Thanks to Bob Graham, I have upgraded to DOS Quicken 5 on my 100LX. =
However, I soon noticed a big difference between Quicken 3 and 5. With =
Quicken 3, I can turn off the palmtop when I'm running Quicken. With 5, =
I can't. For that matter, with 3, when the palmtop auto-powers down =
after the default 5-min of inactivity. With Quicken 5, it doesn't. =
What's happening here? I'm guessing it has to do with light-sleep? Any =
hints on how to solve at least the first problem. I.e., allowing me to =
power down the 100 when I'm running Q5. Thanks.

BTW, DOS Quicken 1-4 can only handle dates up to December 31, 1999. DOS =
Quicken 5-8 and Windows Quicken 1-5 will handle up to 2027. I forget =
what Quicken 6 and 98 will do but it will go as far as 2027. For more =
details, check out www.intuit.com.

George

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 10:36:29 -0800
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As a side note to your story, I too have dropped my HP a number of
times.  It is quite hardy but once it fell while open and the screen
cracked.  $300 dollars later ......   HP was very good about offering a
new replacement etc.  I have since added some "sticky tape" from Lee
Valley tools to the edges so it is a little less slippery.



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>
>Today I dropped my palmtop from just about hip height onto a hard surface.
>It landed squarely on its bottom.  This has been about the 24th time I've
>dropped the poor thing (dropped it twice last week) but this was the FIRST
>TIME it refused to start up!  PANIC MODE.  Turning it on only resulted in
>an all black screen.  If I pressed some keys like ctl-alt-del or the reset
>sequence, sometimes it would beep, other times the screen would cycle
>unevenly through various shades.  Thinking I had nothing else to lose, I
>removed all the batteries (all my data is kept on the flash card so at
>least I need it would be recoverable) and opened up the palmtop.
>
>I have never done this before but I didn't see what harm could come of it.
>I couldn't see anything wrong so I put it back together and hoped that it
>would come up ok when I turned it on (yeah, I use that process on my Jeep,
>too <g>).  It didn't work.
>
>Then I spent a half hour going through the various newsgroups looking for
>used HPs for sale.  I wanted to buy one RIGHT NOW.  Having fired off a
>bunch of emails (and hoping I didn't sound too desperate), I got back to my
>work.  45 minutes later, back at my desk, I decided to open it up again.
>This time I noticed that after I separated the motherboard from the lower
>case, the ribbon cable which is attached to the screen was no longer
>attached to the underside of the motherboard.  I figured out how to
>re-attach it and hopefully thought that I had found the problem (although
>the last time I opened it up, the cable was attached).  Turned it on.  No
>luck.  Now the screen stayed clear...no sequence of keys would produce
>anything on the screen, no even the all-black display.  "Oh, what the
>hell," I thought.  I opened it up one more time and while I was poking at
>stuff, I decided to disconnect the ribbon cable.  When I removed it, I
>noticed that it was possible to slide it into the socket through the bottom
>of the slide-in snap rather than over top of it.  Hmmm...  So I re-attached
>it in this "new" way and voila!  Good ol' DOS popped up when I pushed the
>ON button!!!!!!
>
>So if the same thing happens to you, check that ribbon cable and make sure
>it's connected properly.  BTW, I'm no hardware guy so if I can do it, you
>can too!
>
>Now I just have to re-install my shortcuts & stuff.
>
>
>
>...lars (still going to buy a backup unit, though)
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What year in the past has the correct days (Mon, Tue, etc.) on the
correct dates (21st, 22nd, 23... 28th, etc.)?  When that greatly
dreaded, over talked day arrives, I intend to just "pretend" that it's
2001, 2002, etc. and let my palmtop "say" that it's 1981 or 1965,
whatever.

Phil

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 21:35:15 +0200
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I vaguely recall of an offer for e-mail with cc:mail on the 200lx: anyone
recalls the URL?

Thanks

Etienne

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Date:         Thu, 2 Apr 1998 15:49:31 +0100
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In message <199804020039.SAA05224x@scott.net>, Jeff Johns
<jeffj@SCOTT.NET> writes
>For a small email program I suggest that you go to:
>
>http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw
>
>and grab a copy of Goin' Postal by Steven Lawson. It's in it's late beta
>stage but is one heck of a cool pop3 email program. WWW/LX & POST/LX, from
>what I understand, is also a good set-up but if all you need is email access
>and want something small (it'll run on a 1MB 100LX) Goin' Postal is the way
>to go :) Of course, these are my opinion, and you how opinions go.....
>
>Jeff
>
>
>       ---------------------------------------------------------------
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>       |   Amateur Radio: KF4KGQ           Birmingham, Alabama USA   |
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>       |   Urgent Email<-->AlphaPager Email:  pagejeff@scott.net     |
>       | This message was generated & sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC. |
>       ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) REGISTERED
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Hi Jeff :-)

I have just downloaded it and will give it a go.
Thank you for helping.

Cheers
Ross
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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 14:56:36 -0500
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              "Tony D. Guzewicz" <tddg@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the game Pharoah's Tomb?
Thanks
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 22:48:28 +0300
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Hello,

Yes I made all as it was written in README , and pipe and also upside down
exclamation point and an upside down question mark. My problem is not in
executing, but in running correclty. I can't save changes, all what was
changed in configuration (  mailhosts, dialing setup, ...).
From DOS it's all working very nice, but not in System Manager.

Please help.

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> From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Goin' Postal & System Manager
> Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 5:05 AM
>
> I saw the post about someone having probems running Goin' Postal under
> System Manager. Have you put the pipe comand after the executable command
in
> the command line where you add applications? The pipi command is '|'. You
> should also add an upside down exclamation point and an upside down
question
> mark in the comments section. These will keep other programs from
screwing
> around with the Com port and the allow the program to exit without the
> "press any key" screen. The pipe command gives Goin' Postal all available
> system RAM, you should also check to see how much system RAM you have
> allocated under set-up. I'm not sure exactly how much RAM the software
> requires but I'm sure it's creator, Steve Lawson, will let all of us
know.
> To allocate just that amount to GP just add that number after the pipe
> command symbol. Good luck!
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>        ---------------------------------------------------------------
>        |Jeff Johns   Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
>        |   Amateur Radio: KF4KGQ           Birmingham, Alabama USA   |
>        | Regular Email jeffj@scott.net     http://www.bham.net/jcsd  |
>        |   Urgent Email<-->AlphaPager Email:  pagejeff@scott.net     |
>        | This message was generated & sent via a HP200LX Palmtop PC. |
>        ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 16:04:51 -0800
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For those who care, I finally got the 200LX to log into our Netware 3.12
server using the Accton card, and made a backup.  The final trick
necessary for me was to log in using the LOGIN /SCRIPT NUL command, which
prevented the processing of the system login script, which was apparently
causing trouble on the 200LX (perhaps it was all the drive remappings).

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Date:         Fri, 3 Apr 1998 18:00:02 -0500
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I found Help.EXE and the associated DOSHELP.HLP on an old DOS 5.0 support
disk, I'm going to put it on my webpage (URL is in my signature) in the
Palmtop area, if there is any problems I'll remove it.  I can't imagine it
though.

Together they're around 13.5k, and fairly detailed usage of DOS commands.
I put them both in C:\BIN, just as long as the files are together.

Let me know what you think, and don't forget to check out LX PGP if you use
PGP on the Palmtop!  :)

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Where can you buy AA alkalines for 20 cents???!!!!  That's extremely good!

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Date:         Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:47:16 -0500
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Is  Phase III Computing, the guys that put the President's Planner, still around?  Does anyone have a recent phone for them?  Thanks

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Date:         Sat, 4 Apr 1998 10:06:05 -0500
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I have tried calling them.  The phone is disconnected.

Does anyone know of a source for PP?

--- On Sat, 4 Apr 1998 08:47:16 -0500  "H. Dean Mintzer" <dmintzer@CSRLINK.NET> wrote:

>Is  Phase III Computing, the guys that put the President's Planner, still around?  Does anyone have a
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Date:         Sat, 4 Apr 1998 09:02:37 -0800
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              Marta <pierce@ARACNET.COM>
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Hi,
I have a question for you hisword users.  I have d/l av and cross
reference and placed it correctly in hisword and have used that now for
a while without problems.  I just now d/l Scholar and tried to get it to
work, but this is what happens.
1.  In cross reference the text shows up in the left hand side and the
words done come across the rest of the page in a haphazard way.

I have re-pointed it to the Scholar directory instead of the AV
directory, I have deleted alot of other junk so there is plenty of
memory. I have d/l all the data files directly from Tom's homepage, as I
did the AV file.  I have all the Scholar files listed under the scholar
directory.

Can anyone help?  I am afraid to delete the AV directory because I don't
want to lose the bible I have on the hp.  Also, From what I read the
Scholar files have the av with it, so it would be redundant to keep the
first Av directory?

If anyone can help please, I have been trying for the last month, and I
can't seem to get help from tom (I am sure that he is busy) so if you
can help, THANKS!

marta

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Date:         Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:49:21 -0600
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My accountant (ok...wife but she really is an accountant!) said I could
get "whatever you want, just stop bugging me" with regards to a GPS
receiver and map software for our trip to Alaska this fall.  What I
would like to know from you all is what is the best receiver and
software.  I know some of the free/shareware stuff is probably best for
the software side but I will also need maps.  I am also interested in
logging the trip.

So, if you use some sort of GPS receiver and software on your HP200LX,
could you send me a message with the pros and cons, price paid, etc. so
that I can find the best?  If enough people send me the info, I will
compile it down to a FAQ-type thing.

Thanks!

jaime
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I just noticed someone mentioning dreading the year 2000, and I was thinking
that the 200LX was fully compatable?

I ran a few of the simple tests on it to see if the different clocks updated
as should and if other things worked and they seemed to not have changed,
perhaps I'm missing something.

So is the 200LX Y2K compliant or not?  (I just started on this digest, haven't
seen the discussion on the newsgroups so I appologise if this is old stuff.)

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Date:         Sat, 4 Apr 1998 11:48:47 -0800
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Walter R Francis wrote:
>
> I just noticed someone mentioning dreading the year 2000, and I was thinking
> <snip>
> So is the 200LX Y2K compliant or not?  (I just started on this digest, haven't
> seen the discussion on the newsgroups so I appologise if this is old stuff.)

The 200LX is indeed fully year 2000 compatible.  The only trouble reported by
the available testing programs is that the 200LX does not have a real-time
clock, but that's not an error because it actually doesn't have one.  The only
problem with y2k compatibility is that some of the DOS apps we may run on the
200LX (such as Quicken for DOS v. 1-4) aren't y2k compatible...
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I have a requirement... and decided that members from this list will
most propably be able to assist me.

Son in Grade 10. Maths, science etc... HP95 in drawer.

Does anybody have a proposal for a project - interfacing something to
HP95, for example -  that he can do for a science fair expo?

Your help appreciated.

Regards,


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does anyone remember the contact info for a person that had
capecanerval/hanger? in their address? want contact about a project but lost
his info after i visited his sit. tx roy

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It would be possible to interface that 95 with a GPS unit, that way your son
would learn about satellites, triangulation and trigonometry, accurate time
bases, and RS-232 communications.  There are GPS units out there with RS-232
interfaces for around $100 or less, and they also make handy tools to have if
you ever go hiking, etc.

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You Wrote:
I have a requirement... and decided that members from this list will
most propably be able to assist me.

Son in Grade 10. Maths, science etc... HP95 in drawer.

Does anybody have a proposal for a project - interfacing something to
HP95, for example -  that he can do for a science fair expo?

Your help appreciated.

Regards,


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marta,

After reading your post, I retrieved & loaded the Scholar package without
incident.  It worked the first time.  Here's what I did:

1.  downloaded scholar.zip to my desktop, in a directory of its own.
2.  Unzipped, using the "pkunzip -d *.zip" command.  10 files, ~6.7 meg were
unzipped.
3.  On the 200lx, created another directory in the same directory as my "av"
directory, and named the new directory "scholor".
4.  Opened "hisword.cfg" (in c:\_dat) and chanced the 2nd line from:
        Path=a:\bible\av
to:
        Path=a:\bible\scholar
and saved the modified file.
5.  Exited system manager (&... {Menu} {A}pplications {T}erminate all
6.  Started HisWord, as normal

It worked just fine.  Footnotes were available.  Crossref's worked.  All three
versions were up & available.  Everything that I tried was fine.

E-mail me direct (cavendishl@aol.com) if you are still having trouble.

Cordiallly,

lynn m. cavendish

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is any one using a GPS in Australia.
Where is it possible to find the maps?
Is it possible to find one with a display and a serial
interface to connect it to the LX.
regard
Al
Wyn@alphalink.com.au
Melbourne / Australia
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~wyn

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Greetings Fellow Palmtoppers:

The LIST archives at the web site have been updated. Please let me know
it there are any problems with Links/etc...

Cheers,



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i'll take the card by it's self if you will be willing to sell it like that

Nedim wrote:

> Hi people!
>
> Anybody interested in used 200LX/2Mb Ram. In excellent condition. Price $200 + S&H. I'll throw in Maxtor 3.5Mb flash card for additional $50.
> Don't worry, I'm not abandoning 200LX <g>, I just bought one too many!
>
> Interested parties, please e-mail me privately. I have a feeling it's gonna go fast, so be quick!
>
> Nedim.
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i have it, if you want it tell me, ill send it

Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the game Pharoah's Tomb?
> Thanks
> Tony Guzewicz
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I likes to extract the downloaded messages  outside of GP program, so that I
am able to read it with LX reader and archive as well.
Is it possible to uncompress those *.ibx file kept in GP directory ?
What is the decompress utility used ?

For those interested :
I searched the net and found an interesting program called "em_ai.exe"
containing useful hints on how to access the internet (eg. search the Webs,
FTP, GET etc.) through the email, it is worth reading but I have not try the
hints.
Also found a small MIME decode/encode program named "mime64.exe" only at
23436bytes, I am now able to decode those binary file attached with email.



Chin Jien Hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg
jienhung@singnet.com.sg

This message was send from a HP 700LX Palmtop with NOKIA cellular phone.
Small, mobile and extremely efficient :-D
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) EVALUATION

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Dean -

> Is  Phase III Computing, the guys that put the President's Planner, =
still around?  Does anyone have a recent phone for them?  Thanks

Last I have is:

 Alex Todd
 Phase III Computing, Inc.
 88 Bloor St. E.
 Suite 2810
 Toronto, Ont. N4W 3G9
 Canada

 416-925-8760 voice
 416-920-9242 fax

Good luck!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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I would be interested in getting a copy of that games
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To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Saturday, April 04, 1998 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pharoah's Tomb


i have it, if you want it tell me, ill send it

Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can find a copy of the game Pharoah's Tomb?
> Thanks
> Tony Guzewicz
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I am trying to connect my DeLorme Tripmate to my HP200LX to use LXGPS.
From my HPLX I have an HP cable that ends with the 9 pin, female serial
connection for transferring data to my pc.  And the DeLorme Tripmate has a
similar 9 pin female connector for connecting to a serial pc connector.
If I make a male to male interface connector, what connections are
necessary to get this to work?

This is what I understand the 9 pin female connector to be from the HPLX:

1- data carrier detect
2-TX data
3-RX data
4- data set ready
5- ground
6- data terminal ready
7- clear to send
8- ready to send
9- ring indicator

I assume that the DeLorme 9 pin connector is the same.  Besides swapping
the RX and TX, what else do I need to do?

Also, anyone know where I can find some good maps for LXGPS for the central
U.S.?

Thanks,
Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN

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Jim,

The 9 pin female to male null modem connector from the Connectivity
Pack should work. It does for me. Any other null modem connector
should do the trick.

Regards

Antonio

> I am trying to connect my DeLorme Tripmate to my HP200LX to use LXGPS.
> From my HPLX I have an HP cable that ends with the 9 pin, female serial
> connection for transferring data to my pc.  And the DeLorme Tripmate has a
> similar 9 pin female connector for connecting to a serial pc connector.
> If I make a male to male interface connector, what connections are
> necessary to get this to work?
>



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Porto - Portugal
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On 1998-04-02 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Ed, Nedim pointed out the educational value, and I have to
   >agree here! I also agree with you that the syntax among the
   >various products is less than unified <G>...
   >When you say ad hoc queries you mean someone keeps
   >a huge relational database on the palmtop? This generally
   >means _several_ databases, all relating to one another via the
   >application or query. I wonder about that.
   >Avi M. ÝD&A¨

Hmmm.. point taken. I guess that, even on a souped up 32M Mack special,
it would be a bit of stretch.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

A bad compromise is better than a good battle. -- Russian proverb

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On 1998-04-02 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:46:20, Frank Ubachs wrote:
   >> I am looking for a small hplx palmtop utility called exit.exm
   >that= makes
   >> terminating all programs really easy and quick. Didn't find it on=
   >SUPER
   >Tasklist.zip came with the following bonus programs look in bonus.
   >zip.
   >closeall.exm
   >Closeall.exm closes all open task, including applications started by
   >MoreEXM.
   >terminat.exm
   >Terminat.exm terminates System Manager and transfer control to DOS.
   >Tasklist.zip can be found on the SUPER Site.
   >HTH

I use a exkey macro that makes the quicken key do (more) (menu) (application)
 (terminate all). Does closeall.exm just do the same keystrokes or is
it faster than that?


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

LISP: To call a spade a thpade.

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I have used my hp to access my net shell account when out of town.
However, when I do, I get random characters popping up on the screen now
and again.  Also, it won't format the characters correctly, they wrap in
odd fashion.  Has anyone had this problem before and if so, how did you
fix it.

I have tried various forms of ANSI.SYS and they don't seem to help.

thanks,
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On Sun, 5 Apr 1998 09:03:15 -0700, you wrote:

>On 1998-04-02 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>   >On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 13:46:20, Frank Ubachs wrote:
>   >> I am looking for a small hplx palmtop utility called exit.exm
>   >that=3D makes
>   >> terminating all programs really easy and quick. Didn't find it on=3D
>   >SUPER
>   >Tasklist.zip came with the following bonus programs look in bonus.
>   >zip.
>   >closeall.exm
>   >Closeall.exm closes all open task, including applications started by
>   >MoreEXM.
>   >terminat.exm
>   >Terminat.exm terminates System Manager and transfer control to DOS.
>   >Tasklist.zip can be found on the SUPER Site.
>   >HTH
>
>I use a exkey macro that makes the quicken key do (more) (menu) =
(application)
> (terminate all). Does closeall.exm just do the same keystrokes or is
>it faster than that?
>
>
>           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA

I have found that to work well too..  I do like your idea about the
unused Quicken key.. thanks
73


Dean L. W5GXL

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Ok.....here's what I connected from the HPLX to the Tripmate.
HPLX DB9         Tripmate DB9
    3              ----->        2
    2             ----->         3
    6             ----->         4
    5             ----->         5

When I use LXGPS....and I select "monitor", I see the serial datastream,
then all of a sudden it just stops.  What am I doing wrong????!!!!
(Hardware.....it will get you everytime!)

Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN

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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 12:50:56 -0400
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>
> When I use LXGPS....and I select "monitor", I see the serial datastream,
> then all of a sudden it just stops.  What am I doing wrong????!!!!
> (Hardware.....it will get you everytime!)
>

        I have had this happen with LXGPS and my Garmin as well.  What I
        find is that exiting the system manager completely will solve
        the problem.  I suspect that it may have
        something to do with the "light sleep" mode and data comm., but
        I have not tried to verify that suspicion.

                        --jim


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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 13:15:18 -0400
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Has any body tried importing contact and schedule data from HPLX200 to
Outlook 98?


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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 20:19:03 +0300
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              Alexander Stanovoy <alex@TIPAS.LT>
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 Hello,

 Yes I made all as it was written in README , and pipe and also upside down
 exclamation point and an upside down question mark. My problem is not in
 executing, but in running correclty. I can't save changes, all what was
 changed in configuration inside the program(  mailhosts, dialing setup,
..).
 From DOS it's all working very nice, but not in System Manager.

 Please help.

 ----------
> > From: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Goin' Postal & System Manager
> > Date: Friday, April 03, 1998 5:05 AM
> >
> > I saw the post about someone having probems running Goin' Postal under
> > System Manager. Have you put the pipe comand after the executable
command
> in
> > the command line where you add applications? The pipi command is '|'.
You
> > should also add an upside down exclamation point and an upside down
> question
> > mark in the comments section. These will keep other programs from
> screwing
> > around with the Com port and the allow the program to exit without the
> > "press any key" screen. The pipe command gives Goin' Postal all
available
> > system RAM, you should also check to see how much system RAM you have
> > allocated under set-up. I'm not sure exactly how much RAM the software
> > requires but I'm sure it's creator, Steve Lawson, will let all of us
> know.
> > To allocate just that amount to GP just add that number after the pipe
> > command symbol. Good luck!
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
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I did get LXGPS working (WOW!).   But I had to make it a Sysmgr application
for it to work. The serial connections weren't the problem.  Don't know why
I had to launch it under Sysmgr.  When I went to DOS from the Sysmgr and
ran it, it had problems.

Now I'm ready to get some cool maps.  Any mapmakers out there??  Just point
me to some map sites that have PCX compatible maps (if they are calibrated,
that would be nice too!).

Any tips on how to use LXGPS would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN

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By the way......how do you like your Garmin?  Which model do you have?
Rgds...Jim J.

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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1998 08:38:46 +1100
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              Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
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Subject:      deleting empty file

Perhaps somebody on the list can help me? Somehow I produced an empty
file without name, date 01-01-80 time 12.00a, size 0 on my Sundisk
stacked flash card (5Mb, stacked 10Mb) which I cannot delete.
As it has no name, I cannot delete it with DOS, Norton thinks it
is read only, marked system file and finally decides that it cannot be
deleted. Filer is  a no go. Checkdisk and check tell me that everything is
OK.
The file is not important, no content anyhow ;-) but it just bothers me.
Does somebody has an idea else than copying the A drive to the desktop
an do a reformating of my flash card?

There's a plot to make me think I'm paranoid!

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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 15:56:23 -0500
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I wonder:  try a "dir ?.?" ,   then "erase ?.? /p"

Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:

> Perhaps somebody on the list can help me? Somehow I produced an empty
> file without name, date 01-01-80 time 12.00a, size 0 on my Sundisk
> stacked flash card (5Mb, stacked 10Mb) which I cannot delete.
> As it has no name, I cannot delete it with DOS, Norton thinks it
> is read only, marked system file and finally decides that it cannot be
> deleted. Filer is  a no go. Checkdisk and check tell me that everything is
> OK.
> The file is not important, no content anyhow ;-) but it just bothers me.
> Does somebody has an idea else than copying the A drive to the desktop
> an do a reformating of my flash card?
>
> There's a plot to make me think I'm paranoid!
>
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   >Perhaps somebody on the list can help me? Somehow I produced an
   >empty file without name, date 01-01-80 time 12.00a, size 0 on my
   >Sundisk stacked flash card (5Mb, stacked 10Mb) which I cannot
   >delete. As it has no name, I cannot delete it with DOS, Norton
   >thinks it is read only, marked system file and finally decides that
   >it cannot be deleted. Filer is  a no go. Checkdisk and check tell
   >me that everything is OK.
   >The file is not important, no content anyhow ;-) but it just
   >bothers me. Does somebody has an idea else than copying the A drive
   >to the desktop an do a reformating of my flash card?
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:06:29 +0000
Message-ID: <19980405220618.AAB2830@Ý12.64.37.228¨>

That happens to me from time to time. Usually the file is in my \tmp
directory and I use the DOS DELTREE command to delete the entire directory
(after copying off anything of importance). Usually between DELTREE and
ATTRIB, no file is safe from me.

- Longden

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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 19:57:42 -0500
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              Paul Stratton <paul_stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Subject:      GPS and HP200LX Lessons Learned

    I just spent ten days in and around Nagoya Japan on business and
pleasure. The HP200LX/GPS system configuration I had worked great. My
configuration? I use a home-made cable with a Garmin GPS III (s/w ver. 2.04)
and a HP200LX (2 Mbyte with a 20 Mbyte Sandisk) running LXGPS (s/w ver.
1.3). The LXGPS software can be found on the S.U.P.E.R site at
http://www.palmtop.net. This was my first time to use a handheld GPS in an
unfamiliar environment.

    Here are some lessons I learned about GPS and the HP200LX Palmtop.

    I had a difficult time getting and maintaining GPS "lock" while on any
of the planes. Sometimes, after several minutes, I just had to give up. I
would try later in the flight and then would be able to see the GPS "lock"
onto the satellites quickly. I travel mostly using Delta Airlines, thus,
MD-11s and 767s are the planes they use for their routes to Japan.
Sometimes, I could get the GPS to "lock" onto five satellites, but more
often than not, I could seldom maintain three satellites in view. (You need
a minimum of three satellites for a lat/lon position and you need a minimum
of four for a lat/lon/altitude position.) Windows on the plane do not
provide enough sky visibility. Thus, the GPS can only "see" the satellites
on the side of the plane where you are sitting. The GPS antenna had to be
within a foot of the window, also. The closer the better. Since the view is
limited, the accuracy is not as good as you wish. But, when you are in a
plane doing 570 mph, 200 feet accuracy is close enough to get you to the
right part of the state and over the right city. I found, while on the
ground the Altitude accuracy is downright poor. While in the air, the
Altitude accuracy was on the mark. Almost always within 100 feet of the
stated altitude. In business class, I was able to compare the values shown
on the TV screen located in the arm rest with the GPS value. Pretty darn
close. I would still hope the pilots use their inertial navigation systems
for their precise altitudes. GPS is still not accurate enough for pilots
during take-off and landings...

    Delta Airlines was inconsistent with their enforcement of their GPS
rules. From DFW to PDX (Portland OR), my stewardess (OOPS, "Flight
Attendant") was, at first, very strict and said NO. Other Flight Attendants
knew the airlines rules for Delta and were on my side. My Flight Attendant
said she "checked" with the flight crew and said the "Captain" would allow
it, while the seat-belt sign was off, but, I would have to turn the GPS off,
immediately, when the seat-belt sign comes on. She never had the time to
talk to the cockpit crew to obtain the "Captain's" permission. She was just
trying to save face. She and I were on pleasant terms for the remainder of
the flight and she never bothered me again about the GPS. Other Flight
Attendants were curious and several stopped by to "see" where they were. The
remaining flights from Portland to Nagoya and the entire return trip were
fine. No one else on the crews asked me any questions or made any comments
about my system.

    I have found that scanned maps work best if the scale of the maps are
square. Thus, maps covering smaller areas work best. That is, areas
approximately the size of a large city. Much larger, and the Earth's
curvature plays havoc with the calculations performed by LXGPS for
positioning. For the densely packed downtown area of Nagoya, I scanned the
single page map the hotel provided for guests. I had the lat/lon from a
couple of distant points that were on the map and was able to obtain a
fairly accurate scale. When I would be in a park or clearing, I could get a
position fix that was as accurate as the GPS and SA could allow. The GPS and
HPLX would always show a position within a quarter-block of my actual
position. Even when I was slightly disoriented from a little too much Kerin
beer, (disoriented in the orient? |8¬), I was still able to rely on the GPS
to find my position, and then let it lead me back to the hotel. Another
lesson learned is always carry a compass. The built-in compass on the GPS
works only when you are moving. When you are stopped, the GPS' signal drift
and SA would/could make you think you are pointing in a direction that you
are not. That's no fun when you've had too much Kerin beer. (A very
"sobering" effect... 8¬)

    I also had, for the first time, a clearer understanding of how difficult
it is to obtain a GPS "lock" onto satellites from a downtown area where
there are many skyscrapers close together. I live in a suburb of DFW in
Texas. I can always obtain a reasonable GPS "lock" from within my home. No
such capability when skyscrapers abound!

    I took several train rides to distant suburbs of Nagoya and Osaka. I had
a difficult time maintaining a GPS "lock" while on the trains. Too may
tunnels, poor satellite reception from within the trains, etc., were the
main causes. Once I was at my destination though, I was able to obtain a
good position fix and the scanned maps on the HP200LX showed precisely where
I was actually located. The GPS, the HP200LX, with the LXGPS software showed
the "breadcrumb" trail as long as I had a GPS "lock".

    Personally, I am fascinated by the capabilities these newer GPS
receivers offer. I was extremely pleased with the capabilities of the
HP200LX and the LXGSP software. I know the more powerful laptops provide
prettier maps, pictures, traveling information, etc. But, I personally don't
need pretty colors and a whole lot of information to tell me that I am
navigating the right direction for the location. I always carried my GPS and
HPLX everywhere in a small shoulder bag, and I was ALWAYS able to navigate
and plot my course without having to stop and hook everything to a laptop.
One downside though, was that whenever the GPS would lose its' "lock" I
would have to manually press "Enter" on the GPS. This often proved to be an
annoyance. That's the way the ball bounces for the Garmin GPS III. I'm sure
there are other GPS receivers that operate differently.

Paul Stratton
Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com

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Jim Johnson <jjohnson@TMCC.COM> wrote:

> When I use LXGPS....and I select "monitor", I see the serial datastream, =

> then all of a sudden it just stops.  What am I doing wrong????!!!!
> (Hardware.....it will get you everytime!)

Similar things happen with other DOS programs that use the serial
port, when running in SysMgr.  When you install the program in the
More Apps screen, add an upside-down exclamation mark (ÝFn¨ÝFiler¨ in
the comments field.  This will keep SysMgr from messing with the port.

HTH

-PR
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:46:18 +0800
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              Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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It could be a cross linked file, try running CHKDSK /F and save it as a file
when asked, then delete the saved file (normally file under extension *.chk)

Chin Jien Hung
jhchin@pacific.net.sg
jienhung@singnet.com.sg

At 08:38 AM 4/10/98 +1100, Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>Perhaps somebody on the list can help me? Somehow I produced an empty
>file without name, date 01-01-80 time 12.00a, size 0 on my Sundisk
>stacked flash card (5Mb, stacked 10Mb) which I cannot delete.
>As it has no name, I cannot delete it with DOS, Norton thinks it
>is read only, marked system file and finally decides that it cannot be
>deleted. Filer is  a no go. Checkdisk and check tell me that everything is
>OK.

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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 22:14:26 -0500
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Subject:      Boot Disk

This message isn't exaclty palmtop related but I thought since we all seem
to be DOS lovers that someone on the list might have a DOS 5.0 boot disk. I
need it to get a notebook up & running. Thanks in advance and sorry for the
waste of bandwidth.

Jeff


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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 02:05:59 -0700
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Hello,

I just posted a new version of WWW/LX on our Web page. You can
download a trial version. It is the REAL THING, but is limited
to to transfering 16K only - so you can try it out, and it is
still a commercial product. The license costs $89.00, and if
you own a current version of WWW/LX the upgrade costs $30.00 -
but hey, go look in the Web page http://www.dasoft.com.

Be glad to answer any questions.

BTW, if you want just an email setup, this would work in about
120K (WWW.EXE and POST.EXE). With the Setup programs for
these, it'll be 189K or so. So - 1MB 200LXs - this will work
for you!!!

Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 18:45:24 +1000
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Hi,

I remember some tlk here a while back about an ascII graphics editor...
anyone know what happened?

Or alternatively, a very small gif editor.

My problem is adding simple diagrams to html. I'm happy with the lo-tech
solution of just using ASCII grphics (within a <PRE> </PRE>) - my main
need is a very small program to do this - in ASCII or gif.

Yeah, I know I *could* do it in a text editor, but that's horrible, isn't it?
:)


---
PS my homepage (see sig) describes "SML", a very Simple Markup Language I've
developed. A program converts your text to to html (or to LaTeX, depending
on what you want) - but it's much easier and simpler to work in than html
(or LaTeX...)

--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human
history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
     -- Mitch Ratliffe, _Technology Review_ April, 1992

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:36:37 +0200
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Go to: http://www.espmail.com/default.htm


|I vaguely recall of an offer for e-mail with cc:mail on the 200lx: anyone
|recalls the URL?
|
|Thanks
|
|Etienne
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:56:21 -0400
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Subject:      ÝQ¨ Some uncommon DOS appls - anyone uses them as well?

Although for more serious hacking I prefer my Silicon Graphics Indigo R4400,
I nevertheless consider the 200LX to be a miracle (sort of), true to the
spirits of Schumacher's "Small is beautiful" and Guy Steele's "Small is
powerful". Especially so, if you consider its power to run long-forgotten DOS
applications Ýnotwithstanding DOS's inherit problems¨; these days, I have
quite different things loaded on it:

-- IBM's APL2 (yes, with all the genuine function symbols)
-- Texas Instrument's PC Scheme
-- Lugaru's Epsilon (an Emacs-like full-screen editor)
-- Otter (an automatic reasoning program from Argonne National Laboratory -
   it's amazing the 200LX doesn't complete the very same five problems Ýout
   of 28 provided with the original distribution¨ the author of the program
   couldn't complete on his IBM AT either because of insufficient memory but
   my 2 meg 200LX completes /all/ the remaining ones as well - fascinating to
   be able to analyze Smullyan's puzzles or Schubert's Steamroller teaser
   wherever you go!)
-- Neil Larson's MaxThink hypertext outliner
-- Microsoft's macro assembler for the IBM PC/XT
-- Expert Systems International's Advisor-2 expert system
-- old Infocom text adventures (which were never surpassed, and certainly
   appealed to one's imagination much more than today's graphics-based stuff
   of 100's of megabytes where you just click around and shoot them monsters
   as much as you can, see the alikes of Doom - I'm looking forward to play
   more of them on my forthcoming long flight to Brazil)

Most of the above stuff is probably quite unheard of these days - they are
not Windows applications Ýwhatever flavor you want; but too many people forget
that the icon isn't the OS¨, and, BTW, some of them can't even be installed
anymore on today's machines because they came only on 5.25" diskettes - how
many PCs still do have such drives? Also, it's really amazing upon re-checking
dusty diskette-boxes to come across some terrific old software which actually
needed only 512K to run properly, and which can easily be transferred to the
200LX and works there like a charm (it's a bit like finally finding a much
sought-after out-of-print LP which was never transferred to CD - you just
love it); at least in this regard the 200LX is certainly something to be
treasured and envied.

Anyway, I'd be interested to know whether someone else uses some of the
above on hÝis/er¨ 200LX as well.

Cheers,
Oskar

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:12:47 -0500
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Hey everyone, a friend of mine has decided to stop drooling and try to get a
HP LX palmtop, so I'm looking for one for him.  Used Deja News as a resource,
and figure here is a great place to try as well.

If you have a 100 or 200LX for sale, please email me with specifics such as
memory (amazing how many FS's I saw without it!), price, shipping, condition
(again, lots without), your general location, and what accessories (including
manuals) that'll be with it.

And he'll probably not be able to afford over $300.

Thanks so much!!  Love to get him palmtopping.. :)

--
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>
>I use a exkey macro that makes the quicken key do (more) (menu) (application)
> (terminate all). Does closeall.exm just do the same keystrokes or is
>it faster than that?
>
closeall is faster.





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Owen Samuelson,
Amateur call: KU4ET
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

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over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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>From:    Jaime Viehweg <jviehweg@LUCENT.COM>
>receiver and map software for our trip to Alaska this fall.  What I

This doesn't help you with your GPS question but...
If you're DRIVING to Alaska then I suggest you take a copy of The Milep=
ost.
This annual, (small) phone book sized publication has all the roads and=

documents them by mile post locations.

We drove from San Jose, CA to Fairbanks, Alaska a couple of years ago (=
in a
Honda Civic!).
While I wouldn't recommend the Civic for this trip the Milepost was ver=
y useful.

Russ Brooks
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Hi Bruce -

My wife kindly forwarded your email to me while here in Cornwall.

As you can see, my set up works great.

As my palmtop.com return address is not recognized by the HPLX list, could you
possibly forward a copy to the list on my behalf.

A few points which have been raised recently:

1. airport security with a palmtop
2. customs & immigration
3. phone connections
4. using palmtop.com
5. using a global roaming service offered by one's ISP


1. I left Toronto Pearson airport via British Airways to London Heathrow.
Security at Pearson just asked me to put the 200lx in the tray with my pens,
coins, etc. to pass through the x-ray.  Also x-rayed my camera bag with modem,
camera, etc.  No questions and no problem.  LX and Sundisk ATA card survived.

2. Customs & Immigration at Heathrow did not even look in my bags.

3. While at home in Canada I bought a UK phone adapter which has one male UK
phone plug for the wall outlet and two female outlets: one a standard North
American socket, and the other a standard UK socket so I could plug the phone
back in. (I'll have to set an alarm to remind me to take that adapter home with
me).

4. I am using a 9600 Worldport pocket modem.  As I don't have a UK power
adapter to supply power to the modem, I am using a fresh 9v battery.

Before leaving home I set up a FREE email account with palmtop.com so I can use
the built-in cc:Mail program and I set up the parameters according to the
instructions on their website (sorry - don't remember their URL but you can
search through the list for details in one of the (March, I think) postings).

I had a choice of using Nettamer which I have been using on my lx at home but
the extra time it takes to make a connection with my ISP is more costly than
using cc:Mail direct to palmtop.com.  Why haven't I used Goin' Postal?  I still
haven't worked all of the wrinkles out of it yet.  The main reason?  I want to
leave my email on my ISP server and Goin' Postal doesn't have that option yet.

With cc:Mail I did not have to put any pauses in the dial string, but I did put
X3 in the modem initialization string in case the modem did not recognize the
UK dialtone.

The only thing about cc:Mail which I think is convoluted is the file attachment
feature.  Any mail forwarded to me only shows the text of the forwarding
message, not the attachment.  The message which was forwarded is split into 3
or 4 files that need to be moved to a text file for reading.

5. My ISP in Canada has an arrangement with iPass to allow us to access our
mail box using a local ISP when travelling.  The raoaming software needs to be
downloaded and I discovered that it works only with Win95 or NT.  Not much help
to us.  Besides, their network ISPs in the UK are such that there is a local
number from only the main centres, certainly not the back and beyond of
Cornwall. I would also have to sign up as a corporate client $$.

I have the advantage of dialing straight out and adding to my mother's phone
bill.  However, I don't think that there would be any problem adding in a phone
card string in the dial command for billing.  The phone system here doesn't
mind pauses in the dial string.

I hope that this answers some questions.  Any replies should be sent to my
regular email address - briang@writeme.com


Cheers from Cornwall


Brian


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Two Questions
1. How will it work on a 1 MB 100LX
2. What is your mailing address so I can send a check?
Thanks
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Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 4:45 AM
Subject: WWWLX New Version


Hello,

I just posted a new version of WWW/LX on our Web page. You can
download a trial version. It is the REAL THING, but is limited
to to transfering 16K only - so you can try it out, and it is
still a commercial product. The license costs $89.00, and if
you own a current version of WWW/LX the upgrade costs $30.00 -
but hey, go look in the Web page http://www.dasoft.com.

Be glad to answer any questions.

BTW, if you want just an email setup, this would work in about
120K (WWW.EXE and POST.EXE). With the Setup programs for
these, it'll be 189K or so. So - 1MB 200LXs - this will work
for you!!!

Thank you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sun, 5 Apr 1998 23:17:06 -0400
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Thanks to all who replied to my message.  From what I gathered, this is
what I am going to design:

- Serial interface with 4 AA batteries, with a jack for an optional
external power supply.
- mini din keyboard interface (most adaptors for the larger PC-AT interface
can be had for a few dollars
- DB-9 male connector (to use with your cable)

A typical pc keyboard can draw up to 300 ma of current and needs a 5 volt
power supply.  This means that 1350 ma rechargeable batteries will only
last approximately 4 hours.  Hopefully we can find keyboards that don't use
that amount.

I haven't yet decided what the output will be from the keyboard interface.
I am thinking that it could either be a modified form of ASCII (to show
print screen, the diffference between the number keys above the keyboard vs
the keypad, etc) and the actual scan codes from the keyboard.  Now that I
am thinking about it, I will probably use the scan codes from the keyboard.

The tsr program will have a mapping file such that a person could map the
blue/green keys to there favorite set.

That is about it.  I will post a periodic progress report.

--Stacy

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:50:12 -0700
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Jaime-

I have yet to take the plunge and purchase a GPS unit and so am quite
interested in the discussion that you have initiated.

I do however have considerable experience with much of the mapping
software available today.  I think right now the best option is
Street Atlas from Delorme.  It now has some kind of affiliation
with Palm Pilot for direct interfacing, but that does not interest me.
What I use SA for is to cut/paste the maps into PCX files and download
them to the 200LX where I can view them with LXPIC or Picem.  Actually
those two programs can also view GIF files which take up alot less space.
I have tried using LXGPS (without the GPS unit) and the maps downloaded
from Street Atals work great.  It covers all 50 states, from very large
scale to very small, and it does the lat/long calcualtions on the fly.
The coordinates are square and you can create reference points very
easily.   I think it is a good marriage of the two system.

Another option for maps is to download nautical charts off the WWW.
NOAA has digitized all of the coastal nautical charts onto GIF files.
The images are large (400-800 KB each) but the detail is exceptional,
and you can trim down the size of the maps, as necessary.
The web site is:   http://mapindex.nos.noaa.gov/

Regards,
Dennis Bell
Seattle


PS  Street Atlas retails for $30-40.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 09:51:51 -0700
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I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
at $99.11.

Anyone know how well this camera interfaces with the 200LX?

The camera itself is mounted on a PCMCIA card that slides into the slot
and comes with 1mb of internal memory, 512x480 res and stores using JPEG
compression and has a built-in flash. Most appears powered by 4 AA
batteries, so I doubt it needs much power from the slot.

Would be neat to slide a camera into the LX and just use the 200 as a
camera body...then just pop open the lid and use Filer/LXPIC to directly
view the images. Would even put DC-20 to shame (maybe).

Any comments or experiences?

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:12:54 -0700
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:

> I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
> at $99.11.
> <snip>
> Any comments or experiences?

Driver time!  Any takers?  <g>

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:03:58 -0400
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I've tried posting this question twice before.  I can't believe that no
one on this list can help me out.  I would really appreciate some
suggestions.  Thanks in advance.

Two (related) questions about Data Comm.

1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.

2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)

in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
credit card numbers to be input as a single character?

Thanks,  Steve

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 10:09:44 -0700
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> > I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
> > at $99.11.
> > <snip>
> > Any comments or experiences?
>
> Driver time!  Any takers?  <g>

Mr. Gadget himself!

What makes you think it needs a driver? My thinking is that it's storing
the data on flash memory in (hopefully) ATA format. Seems like they expect
you to slide the unit into a notebook to offload the images...and
requiring a driver for a mundane task like that wouldn't seem likely.

Have you tried using this yourself. Seems quite, well, Cool. Would be a
nice marriage to the LX if it would work right out of the box.

My wallet's burning already... a $100 fix to tide me over till the 32mb
upgrade.

- Longden

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http://www.zdnet.com/cshopper/content/9709/cshp0123.html

Here's what they say:

              When it comes time to transfer pictures to your computer,
you just press two
              buttons on the sides of the camera and slide off the
battery pack, exposing the
              PC Card portion of the camera. Once you slide the camera
into the Type II
              PC Card slot in your laptop, you can access the 1MB
storage card as if it
              were a disk drive.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 13:06:35 -0500
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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Steven R. Wisotsky wrote:

> Two (related) questions about Data Comm.
>
> 1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
> the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
> manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
> tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.

I suspect it is possible, but I don't know.  See the next part for
a possible solution.


> 2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)
> in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
> credit card numbers to be input as a single character?
>


Okay, I just went over to our fax line and tried this, so I
know it works.  Go into System Macros {Ctrl-More} and pick
a macro to edit.  Name it whatever you want.  In the macro
enter:

   ATDT18008888000,,xxxxxxxxxxxxxx,,yyyyyyyyyy{Enter}

where the first set of digits is your calling card access (I
use MCI), the second set is your PIN, and the third set is the
number you wish to call.  Save the macro, fire up Data Comm,
and hit {Fn-FX} where X is the function key you to which you
assigned the macro.

The commas tell the modem to pause.  For my default it is two
seconds per comma.  It is easy to adjust this within the macro
if you need more or less delay.

Another option might be to insert the @ symbol in place of
the commas.  According to the AT command reference for my
modem (Megahertz 14400), the @ symbol instructs the modem
to wait for 5 seconds of silence before continuing.  I have
not tried this, but it sounds as if it would work.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 11:50:39 -0700
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Bob, Replied by private email.

> Two Questions
> 1. How will it work on a 1 MB 100LX
> 2. What is your mailing address so I can send a check?
> Thanks

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 12:50:11 -0700
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For those interested...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1998 18:51:45 GMT
From: "Peter D. Slowik" <pdslowik@execpc.com>
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Subject: FS: HP200LX


FS HP200LX w/1 meg
serial cable, manual,  excellent condition.
$185 shipping included.

pdslowik@execpc.com

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Subject:      Re: Nikon Coolpix 100

> I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
> at $99.11.
>
> Anyone know how well this camera interfaces with the 200LX?
>

YOu are not going to be able to take pictures while plugged into the hplx
since the "shutter release" button is in the battery case/body that is
removed. I haven't tried my coolpix with the hplx yet but I do know that it
doesn't work with any of the current HPC's either because of too much power
drain or a slightly non-standard ATA interface. When I plug it into my
Velo1 it asks what driver I want to use, lists the storage card driver
(ATA) but still doesn't work. Tonight if I remember I will try it with the
hplx, and maybe with my doubleslot and the hplx.

Pete


Peter W. Borders

Network Support Technician
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Tidewater Community College

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Longden C. Loo Ýlloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM¨ wrote:

>Anyone know how well this camera interfaces with the 200LX?

     Unfortunately it does not work at all with the HP palmtop.

     I have had the Nikon Coolpix 100 since Christmas and, while
it's a fine camera and it works with my ThinkPad and my home
system with the SCM SwapBox Classic, the HP 200LX just sits there
when it's plugged in.

     Not recognized as a drive at all. It's sad because they
would be perfect together.

     Nikon tech support responded to a question I posted on their
CompuServe forum about why it wasn't able to work with my other
home system, using a Databook drive (where it DID work when
installed in my first home system).  There weren't many details
offered.  Read it for yourself:

---
Alan, I'm pleased you notice that not all systems are created
equal. To tell the truth I had to get a rom update on my  compaq
system ( deskpro2000 ) before it would even recognize the SCM
swapbox plug and play card.

We use both the Databook and SCM drives in the support area, no
problems ( so far )  I would investigate any driver or bios
updates available for the systems that aren't cooperative with
the 100.

The problem is that while 1mb flash cards are part of the PC card
specification, not every vendors support is relaible ( due to the
fact that Nikon was the first commercially viable 1mb ata flash
card on the market)

Apple just recently fixed a problem int he 3400 notebook with
system 8.1, and one of my staff told me that IBM thinkpads can
get a $8 bios update that resolves problems on one model of the
thinkpad ( I'll be posting that info on our support website soon
( www. nikontechusa.com)

Nikontech
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I think I could use a little help here.  After a major crash on
LX-200, requiring hard reset, I used Transfile to restore most files
(successfully!).  Several days later while trying to connect with
Transfile again, keep getting  can't connect message.  I've checked
all settings repeatedly.  Could the cable have gone away?  Any ideas
out there??

TIA
Joel Catalano
fax 1-413-637-0920
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Subject:      Re: PC Keyboard interface
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Sound great for me.
If you need a beta tester, I' there.
regards.
Alain
PS: do you think it will work with french and US
keyboard?
I use both.

> Thanks to all who replied to my message.  From what I gathered, this is
> what I am going to design:
>
> - Serial interface with 4 AA batteries, with a jack for an optional
> external power supply.
> - mini din keyboard interface (most adaptors for the larger PC-AT interface
> can be had for a few dollars
> - DB-9 male connector (to use with your cable)
>
> A typical pc keyboard can draw up to 300 ma of current and needs a 5 volt
> power supply.  This means that 1350 ma rechargeable batteries will only
> last approximately 4 hours.  Hopefully we can find keyboards that don't use
> that amount.
>
> I haven't yet decided what the output will be from the keyboard interface.
> I am thinking that it could either be a modified form of ASCII (to show
> print screen, the diffference between the number keys above the keyboard vs
> the keypad, etc) and the actual scan codes from the keyboard.  Now that I
> am thinking about it, I will probably use the scan codes from the keyboard.
>
> The tsr program will have a mapping file such that a person could map the
> blue/green keys to there favorite set.
>
> That is about it.  I will post a periodic progress report.
>
> --Stacy
Al
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Steve,

> I've tried posting this question twice before.  I can't believe that no
> one on this list can help me out.  I would really appreciate some
> suggestions.  Thanks in advance.

I'll try the second Q because I know the answer :) ...

> 2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)
> in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
> credit card numbers to be input as a single character?

There is modem limitation of 36 characters, incl. all
numerics, letters (ATDT) and commas etc..

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-----Original Message-----
From: Steven R. Wisotsky <swisotsk@DABURN.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 10:11 AM
Subject: Third time's the Champ


.
>
>1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
>the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
>manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
>tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.


Although this is not exacly elegant, it did work for me in a pinch.

I was using AcCIS and cc:mail, but it should work with datacom.

First,  in the modem initialization string add X3 to the end of it, that
tells the modem to ignore listening for the dial tone.  Then for the number
just enter a comma so it has something in that field.

Dial the phone manually including calling card access numbers whatever, then
press the connect button on the hp, when you hear the hp modem go off hook
hang up the phone.

You may have to practice a few times to get the timming right, but thats
what I had to do and it worked.

-Tim
pacific@castles.com
http://members.castles.com/pacific

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:30:31 -0500
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On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> So, if you use some sort of GPS receiver and software on your HP200LX,
> could you send me a message with the pros and cons, price paid, etc. so
> that I can find the best?  If enough people send me the info, I will
> compile it down to a FAQ-type thing.

So far, the consensus seems to be for the Garmin II+ or III.  I tried to
check them out today.  No joy.  I tried CompUSA, Computer City, Radio
Shack (yeah, right!) and Babbage's (I was in the mall, ok?  I didn't really
think they had any!).  No one had any Garmin stuff.  Just Tripmate and
some other thing that I never heard of.

No one told me that they had a Tripmate.  Just Garmin.  Said Garmin was
the cat's meow of GPS receivers.  So, where in the heck do you get one???
What is a good price?

Also, most suggested Delorme Street Atlas as a means to make maps for
LXGPS (which looks real good, a GPS receiver would make it better!).
Is $50 for version 5.0 good?

Locationally challenged,

jaime
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              James Wolfer <wolfer@ANDREWS.EDU>
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>
> So far, the consensus seems to be for the Garmin II+ or III.  I tried to
> check them out today.  No joy.  I tried CompUSA, Computer City, Radio

        Where I live, in the SW corner of Michigan, you can often find
        the Garmin units in WalMart, REI, and West Marine.  I purchased
        my II+ at West Marine some time ago.  They typically have good
        prices, and the people are service oriented.
        They also mail order I believe.

                --jim

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:59:19 -0600
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Subject:      Re: Boot Disk
Comments: To: Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>

Jeff,

I do have a copy. It's on 1.44Mb disk. Tell me how do want the
diskimage to be? I use a variety of disk imaging programs. Let me know
 the imagi
ng
program and once done, I can email it to you.

wong


  In Reply to :
At  5 Apr 22:14, Jeff Johns wrote:
>
>This message isn't exaclty palmtop related but I thought since we all seem
>to be DOS lovers that someone on the list might have a DOS 5.0 boot disk. I
>need it to get a notebook up & running. Thanks in advance and sorry for the
>waste of bandwidth.
>
>Jeff

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 20:01:12 -0700
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Friends,

 I got my Garmin 12XL at the local Ham Radio Outlet here in Phoenix.
They have stores all over the country.

Here is a link to their page.

http://www.hamradiostore.com/web2/maintxt.html
Select Quick Product/Pricing Search and search for Garmin.

If you are browserless you can call the Phoenix store at
602.242.3515 and ask for the number of the store nearest you.

I originally paid $249 for mine, but I see they are now down to $229.
I can recommend the 12XL highly. I also have the GPS III, about $369
with built in map display. Very nice also.

Don't let them talk you into one of the older 8 channel receiver units.
They're closing them out because the newer models listed above have
the newer 12 channel receiver. 12 channel mo betta.

I have used my units with DeLorme's Street Atlas Ver. 5 with good results,
and have just started playing with the 12XL interfaced to the 200LX running
LXGPS.
Seems to work good.

Hope this helps,

Mike
Phoenix, AZ.

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I've seen the Garmin receivers at the local super sporting goods stores.
I used the Tripmate tonight using LXGPS and it worked great on a local map
that was sent to me.  VERY accurate (well, that means that it stayed on the
roads for the most part).  I plan to use it on a trip tomorrow from Indiana
to Iowa.  Don't have all the intervening maps, so I'll just do it with a
large US map.

Wish list for LXGPS....automatic switching of maps, better distance
estimates using roads instead of "as the crow flies".   Oh, well, it is
still a pretty nice program!
Jim J.
Carmel, IN





jviehweg@LUCENT.COM on 04/06/98 09:30:31 PM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
      jviehweg@LUCENT.COM

To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
cc:
Subject:  Re: Best GPS/software for HP200




On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> So, if you use some sort of GPS receiver and software on your HP200LX,
> could you send me a message with the pros and cons, price paid, etc. so
> that I can find the best?  If enough people send me the info, I will
> compile it down to a FAQ-type thing.
So far, the consensus seems to be for the Garmin II+ or III.  I tried to
check them out today.  No joy.  I tried CompUSA, Computer City, Radio
Shack (yeah, right!) and Babbage's (I was in the mall, ok?  I didn't really
think they had any!).  No one had any Garmin stuff.  Just Tripmate and
some other thing that I never heard of.
No one told me that they had a Tripmate.  Just Garmin.  Said Garmin was
the cat's meow of GPS receivers.  So, where in the heck do you get one???
What is a good price?
Also, most suggested Delorme Street Atlas as a means to make maps for
LXGPS (which looks real good, a GPS receiver would make it better!).
Is $50 for version 5.0 good?
Locationally challenged,
jaime
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 23:05:17 -0500
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Comments: To: allen solof <allensolof@boone.net>

I've received a few questions about my little trek to Japan and my use of
the GPS and HP200LX. I would like to answer the questions here within the
list, if that is OK with everyone. (Too Late!  ;-)

Q1. my friend (he also lives in TX) has a Garmin III and he was telling
>me about it. I understood that it was a self-contained unit. So why is
>it necessary to use the HP in conjunction with it?

A1    For most instances here in the USA, the GPS III is sufficient.
However, the version I have only has major roads detailed for North and
South America (Whew, that's a big  "Only".) My GPS unit does not contain any
road maps for Asia or Japan.  Thus I used scanned maps on the HP200LX for
the densly packed downtown area of Nagoya Japan.

Q2. You mentioned that you scanned in the local map at the hotel in
>Japan. How did you do that? What program/format do you save it as to see
>it on the HP?

A2.  I cheated.  The downtown map of Nagoya Japan was luckily on a single
page. I had the hotel fax the small map to my bosses laptop. I then
inverted, cropped, converted the PCX to bi-level, and saved the faxed page
as a PCX file.  I used the fax software (forgot the brand and version my
boss uses) to rotate the map to align the map for North to be at the top of
the screen.  I then used the ZIP21 program on the laptop and the HP200LX
machines to transfer the PCX map to the HP200LX.  I loaded the map file into
LXGPS and calibrated it using two known waypoints; my hotel room and a
bridge north of the main TV tower a good distance away.

Q3>There is another GPS program made for the HP that came out recently and
>uses the DLG maps provided by the government.

A3  Not really a question, but, has anybody had success with this program?
I have not tried it yet.  I plan on doing so, when time permits. I'd like to
hear about successes and "challenges" the good people within this mailing
list have encountered.

Q4. I'm planning a trekking in Nepal for this November, and I wonder if
you could tell me something about the weight and handyness of your
solution. How do you managed to walk and go around with your
hardware?

A4.  I made a small serial cable that can connect to the cable for the
HP200LX.  I employed many rubber bands to ensure the connectors stayed
together (no screws were available for my home made cable).  I kept the
cable attached to the HP200LX by rubber bands also.  I know it's kind of
kludgy, but hey, it worked for me.  I carried the GPS, HP200LX, and cables
in a backpack. Total weight of the backpack, including lunch and drinks,
about ten pounds.  Most of the weight was the water I carried to drink.  The
GPS was able to receive signals and maintain "lock" while on.  The GPS had
to be "velcro-ed" to remain properly oriented near the top of the backpack.
The HP200LX was also "velcro-ed" so that it didn't bounce around too much
inside the backpack and was also more readily available.  My cable was long
enough that I could keep the GPS in the backpack and mess-around the with
the HP200LX.  I could also mess around with the GPS and keep the HP200LX in
the backpack.

Q5  Battery life?
A5    I used the Energizer Lithium cells, two in the HP200LX and four inthe
GPS III.  The HP200LX lasted approximately six hours of continual use with
the GPS.  The GPS III lasted approximately 18 hours of continual use.
Serial communications are a serious battery drain.  I've learned that I
don't really need to have the units always on.  Also, the precision of the
GPS unit was heavily degraded in the downtown area. There was too much
interference from the tall buildings. Sometimes the indicated position, by
both the map and the GPS, was in error to a very large degree.

Paul Stratton
Paul_Stratton@email.msn.com



-----Original Message-----
From: allen solof <allensolof@boone.net>
To: paul_stratton@email.msn.com <paul_stratton@email.msn.com>
Date: Monday, April 06, 1998 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: GPS and HP200LX Lessons Learned


>hi Paul,
>I read your post to the HP list about GPS and the 200LX with great
>interest. Thanks for taking the time to send it.
>
>Could you answer a couple of questions for me whenever you get a chance?
>1. my friend (he also lives in TX) has a Garmin III and he was telling
>me about it. I understood that it was a self-contained unit. So why is
>it necessary to use the HP in conjunction with it?
>
>2. You mentioned that you scanned in the local map at the hotel in
>Japan. How did you do that? What program/format do you save it as to see
>it on the HP?
>
>There is another GPS program made for the HP that came out recently and
>uses the DLG maps provided by the government. The URL for the programmer's
>home page and more info is
>http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/9412/
>
>thanks.
>all the best,
>al

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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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> I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
> at $99.11.
Saw a camera (On TV) that attaches to a Nintendo GameBoy.

These things must be getting cheap!


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              accesories...***
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*Garmin GPS 12XL in excellent condition, with case, lanyard, box, and
manual.  This model has HPLX connectivity via serial port for moving map
display, up/downloading waypoints, etc, etc...
*
Version 2.00 firmware. FREE upgrade available from Garmin correcting
British Grid (OSGB) error.  You only need this if you're intending to use in
UK.
Garmin will also upgrade to latest firmware for $35 fee if you like.
*
Additional black leather case with belt clip
& room for a spare set of batteries.
*
Delorme's Street Atlas mapping software ver.4 on CD ROM.
*
*    First $185 US & Uship (Can/ConUS)gets it all...
*
*                       regards...
*                                   Tony

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Looks like you're having fun with the palmtop & accessories...Got one
passport back
today so booked flight Brit Awys...out on 5/26 9:50PM from PHX...back 6/10
2:15PM PHX...
Send for temp ham license tomorrow. Missed you at meeting...had 18 there, 4
new ones!
Brian, Mike T. and I 'may' do "Borders" along the Agua Fria (Dysart Rd.
..border of Sun City/Sun City West :-)>
72/73 Floyd NQ7X  Phoenix  ScQRPion  DM33uq  QRP-L 343
ARRL AMSAT ARCI G-QRP NORCAL   DX WRKD HF=324 SAT=101 QRP=129

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Subject:      GPS Primer

Does anyone have knowledge of a GPS FAQ or have sufficient knowledge to
discourse on the topic themselves?  I'd like to move toward GPS but am
confused by the wide variety of choices and havn't got a handle on what
the differences are.

I've noticed them priced anywhere from $70 up to $400.  What are the
issues involved in separating the wheat from the chaff and what
trade-offs do you make as you slide down the price scale.

I'm interested in something that can interface with the 200lx
occasionally but which is also an effective stand-alone unit.  It would
be mostly used for car travel in unfamiliar, large cities and route
planning on cross country trips.  We have a trip overseas coming up in a
year or so and functionality there would be nice too.

Thanks for the insights.  I'd be happy to go off list if this strays too
far from the lx fold.

Larry Zimmerman
KB0MBQ

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These days, it seems that many people are opting/waiting for more
expensive "differential-ready" GPS receivers. These units can receive
positional information from the satellites, as well as correction
information gleaned from known survey points. This process yields a more
accurate position. However, the following U.S. announcement might make
the differential technology "overkill" for most civilian uses: (sorry
for the miserable formatting)...

>THE WHITE HOUSE
>
>Office of the Vice President
>__________________________________________________________________
>For Immediate Release     Contact:
>Monday, March 30, 1998     (202) 456-7035
>
>
>VICE PRESIDENT GORE ANNOUNCES ENHANCEMENTS TO THE GLOBAL POSITIONING
SYSTEM
>THAT WILL BENEFIT CIVILIAN USERS WORLDWIDE
>
> Washington DC--Vice President Gore today announced that a second
civilian
>signal will be provided by the U.S. Global Positioning System.
>
>  This new civilian signal will mean significant improvements in
navigation,
>positioning and timing services to millions of users worldwide--from
>backpackers and fishermen to farmers, airline pilots, and scientists,
the
>Vice President said.
>
> The addition of a second civil signal represents a strong commitment
by
the
>United States to civil GPS users worldwide and is a major step in the
>evolution
>of GPS as a global information utility.  Much like the Internet, GPS is
>becoming increasingly indispensable for navigation, positioning, and
timing
by
>users around the world.  Also like the Internet, GPS has become an
engine
of
>economic growth and efficiency as businesses and consumers continue to
develop
>new and creative applications of this technology.
>
> The addition of a second frequency will greatly enhance the accuracy,
>reliability and robustness of civilian GPS receivers by enabling them
to
make
>more effective corrections for the distorting effects of the Earth's
>atmosphere on the signals from space.  GPS has always provided signals
on
two
>frequencies for military users for this purpose.  Today's announcement
marks
a
>new era in which civilians will have access to the same type of
capability.
>
> The decision announced today demonstrates that we can successfully
balance
>the needs of civilian users with the demands of national security, Vice
>President Gore said.  GPS civil signals are, and will continue to be,
>provided free of charge to consumers, businesses, and scientists around
the
>world.  We will continue to do everything we can to protect these GPS
signals
>and to promote GPS applications for commercial, public safety, and
national
>security purposes.
>
> The addition of a second civil signal has been recommended by a number
of
>expert panels, the most recent of which was the White House Commission
on
>Aviation Safety and Security, chaired by the Vice President.  Today's
>announcement fulfills a pledge made last March by the Departments of
Defense
>and Transportation to reach a decision on a second civil frequency
within
a
>year.  The Departments of Defense and Transportation co-chair an
Interagency
>GPS Executive Board, created by President Clinton in 1996 to manage GPS
>and its
>U.S. government augmentations.
>
>###
>
>  This new civilian signal will mean significant improvements in
navigation,
>positioning and timing services to millions of users worldwide--from
>backpackers and fishermen to farmers, airline pilots, and scientists,
Vice
>President Gore said.
>
>  The NAVSTAR Global Positioning System (GPS) is a constellation of 24
>satellites developed, launched, and maintained by the U.S. Air Force
that
>provides positioning, timing, and navigation signals free-of-charge to
both
>military and civilian users worldwide.
>
> A second civil frequency will allow receivers to measure the time of
arrival
>for two signals that have passed through the Earth's atmosphere and
correct
>for the distortion introduced by passage from space to earth.
>
> An improved location calculation will allow safety-critical users
requiring
>dynamic, reliable capability to be more reliant on the GPS signal,
improve
the
>overall accuracy of the system for the average user, and allow the
>high-accuracy users (surveying, geodesy, weather forecasters, etc.) to
>determine their data in a faster, more reliable manner.  In addition,
the
>second civil signal will allow the safety-critical users to have a
backup
>signal in the event of inadvertent disruption of the current civil
signal.
>
> The Interagency GPS Executive Board (IGEB) has selected the 1227.6 MHZ
band
>(currently known as the L2 signal) for the addition of new civil
>capability.  A
>third civil signal will also be added with a decision on the frequency
to
be
>made in August of this year.  The decision on which of these two new
signals
>the Government will pursue to become the safety-of-life service signal
will
>also be made in August.
>
> One of the key factors in deciding which frequency to pursue as the
>safety-of-life signal is a commitment by all members of the IGEB to
have a
>safety-of-life service signal available by 2005.
>
> The new signals are intended to be added to the GPS Block IIF
satellites.
>
> The new signals will be available to all civil users worldwide.
>Internationally, interest has been expressed via the International
Civil
>Aviation Organization (ICAO) in the use of a second GPS civil signal in
>conjunction with the Japanese MSAS and the European EGNOS augmentation
>programs.
>
> Currently the GPS system is used by a wide range of users:  from cars
and
>trucks on the nation's highways to ships at sea and on inland
waterways;
from
>civil aviation to satellites in space, from earthquake monitoring
equipment
to
>surveyors to backpackers;  new industries such as precision farming;
and
the
>electrical power companies and long-distance phone systems which derive
timing
>and synchronization from the signals.
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IN a lecture today, I watched someone taking notes on a laptop using
Word. Very impressive speed was gained from "word completion" -

        for example, if the word "ombudsman" has occurred already, then
        typing o and then the word-completion key gets you "ombudsman"
        (though "occurred" comes up first :))

This is available in Vim - but Vim's 400k and kinda slow on the palmtop.
I've heard others mention editors that have word-completion.

I don't really want to adapt to another editor .... but it might be worth
it just for this feature! Any reccommendations?


PS if you're a vi user, and haven't tried Vim, I reccommend giving it
a go.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 07:07:03 -0500
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              Paul Stratton <paul_stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Comments: To: zimm4@JUNO.COM

There's a slew of GPS info available in the sci.geo.satellite-nav news
group.  Sometimes there's info about the HPLX family of palmtops.  Read and
Reap.

Paul Stratton


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From: Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: Tuesday, April 07, 1998 5:08 AM
Subject: GPS Primer


>Does anyone have knowledge of a GPS FAQ or have sufficient knowledge to
>discourse on the topic themselves?  I'd like to move toward GPS but am
>confused by the wide variety of choices and havn't got a handle on what
>the differences are.
>
>I've noticed them priced anywhere from $70 up to $400.  What are the
>issues involved in separating the wheat from the chaff and what
>trade-offs do you make as you slide down the price scale.
>
>I'm interested in something that can interface with the 200lx
>occasionally but which is also an effective stand-alone unit.  It would
>be mostly used for car travel in unfamiliar, large cities and route
>planning on cross country trips.  We have a trip overseas coming up in a
>year or so and functionality there would be nice too.
>
>Thanks for the insights.  I'd be happy to go off list if this strays too
>far from the lx fold.
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>KB0MBQ
>
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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>
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>From:    "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
>I just posted a new version of WWW/LX on our Web page.

For those of us that already purchased, is there a way we can get the l=
atest
version or do we have to re-buy the package to upgrade?

Russ Brooks
=

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Great...now that I just ordered one :(  I got 2 mail messages this
morning, one from you guys telling me that the CoolPix 100 does not work
with a HPLX, and another from CDW telling me my order has been shipped.
YeeHaw !!
Now then, where can I get a cheap PC Card Drive for my desktop?

> ----------
> From:         Alan StriegelÝSMTP:STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG¨
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> Subject:      Re: Nikon Coolpix 100
>
>      Unfortunately it does not work at all with the HP palmtop.
>
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> Two (related) questions about Data Comm.
>
> 1.  When calling from a hotel room, sometimes its difficult to predict
> the timing or responses necessary to dial.  Is it possible to dial
> manually, and then get Data Comm to link up when I hear the computer
> tones on the other side?  I know this is possible in Mini Fax.
You should be able to dial manually then type ATD<enter> which should
cause Datacom to pick up.
Bear in mind that you might need to enable "blind dialling"  (eg ATX3 in
the
modem init string  or  just type ATX3D<enter> to pick up).

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> > I see from my latest CDW catalog that the Nikon Coolpix 100 is now priced
> > at $99.11.
> Saw a camera (On TV) that attaches to a Nintendo GameBoy.
>
> These things must be getting cheap!

It's a liquidation price. When the manufacturers are done with a line,
they seem to want them out of the inventory systems fast.

In fact, CDW no longer had any in-stock when I called yesterday, but
judging from several other posters, it may not have worked in the 200LX
anyway (that's some consolation for not being able to order one...thanks
guys).

- Longden

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On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> > 2.  Is it possible to store longer phone numbers (i.e., more characters)
> > in Data Comm or use a prefix/suffix type of code that allows telephone
> > credit card numbers to be input as a single character?
>
> There is modem limitation of 36 characters, incl. all
> numerics, letters (ATDT) and commas etc..
>


This may be true for numbers entered directly in Data Comm itself,
but I successfully used a System Macro to direct my modem to dial
a 43 character string using Data Comm.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:54:51 +0300
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              Alexander Stanovoy <alex@TIPAS.LT>
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Yes, I have 100LX 1MB with Manuals and Comunication cable for 200$ +
sending ...

On Mon, 6 Apr 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:

> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1998 04:12:47 -0500
> From: Walter R Francis <Wally@pop.uky.edu>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Looking for 100/200LX for friend.
>
> Hey everyone, a friend of mine has decided to stop drooling and try to get a
> HP LX palmtop, so I'm looking for one for him.  Used Deja News as a resource,
> and figure here is a great place to try as well.
>
> If you have a 100 or 200LX for sale, please email me with specifics such as
> memory (amazing how many FS's I saw without it!), price, shipping, condition
> (again, lots without), your general location, and what accessories (including
> manuals) that'll be with it.
>
> And he'll probably not be able to afford over $300.
>
> Thanks so much!!  Love to get him palmtopping.. :)
>
> --
>  -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.. .
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 05:57:19 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: editors: text completion
Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> IN a lecture today, I watched someone taking notes on a laptop using
> Word. Very impressive speed was gained from "word completion" -

> I don't really want to adapt to another editor .... but it might be worth
> it just for this feature! Any reccommendations?

Have you ever looked at Quick/LX? It's one of the "oldies" and is featured
at the Shier website at http://www.shier.com/Software.html

The blurb says:
Whether you are a "two-fingered typist," or can type 30 words per minute
on the palmtop, your typing speed can be greatly improved by using
QUICK/LX. This typing aid for the HP Palmtop learns the words you type
most often, then suggests them after you type just a few characters. The
suggestions are displayed in a box on the screen. You can ignore the
suggestion and keep on typing, or accept it with the press of a single
key, and QUICK/LX will finish the word.

There's apparently a downloadable demo version at the same site. Sorry,
I've never used it myself. Productivity is counter to my nature <g>.

- Longden

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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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Rowsell, Tom ÝRowsellT@MAR.DFO-MPO.GC.CA¨ wrote:

>Great...now that I just ordered one :(  I got 2 mail messages this
>morning, one from you guys telling me that the CoolPix 100 does not work
>with a HPLX, and another from CDW telling me my order has been shipped.
>YeeHaw !!
>Now then, where can I get a cheap PC Card Drive for my desktop?

The following may be of some help.  I selected for PC Card drives list priced
$100 or less.

Alan

 **** Computer Select, March 1998 -- Hardware Product Specification ****
           * Data Sources Report COPYRIGHT 1998 Information Access Company

 Product:  SDDA
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Company:  Adtron Corp.
 Address:  3050 S. Country Club Dr., Ste. 24
           Mesa, AZ  85210
           602-926-9324
           FAX: 602-926-9359
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Category: PC Accessories/Peripherals
 Specs:    Mfr. suggested list price: $90
           Standard warranty included: 1 yr.
           Date announced: 1995
           Device type: PCMCIA Card Drives
           Compatible with: IDE
           Product description: Supports PCMCIA Type I, II, III; accepts ATA
              Flash and hard disk; internal connection through 2.5-inch or
              3.5-inch drive bay; provides 1 PCMCIA slot
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                *** End ***

 Product:  OutBack CardDock GS-120
           * Data Sources Report COPYRIGHT 1998 Information Access Company
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Company:  Greystone Peripherals, Inc.
 Address:  130-A Knowles Dr.
           Los Gatos, CA  95030
           800-600-5710; 408-866-4739
           FAX: 408-866-8328
           Tech support: Use main no.
           Tech support BBS: 408-866-6938
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Category: PC Accessories/Peripherals
 Specs:    Mfr. suggested list price: $99
           Standard warranty included: 1 yr.
           Device type: PCMCIA Card Drives
           Compatible with: ISA (16-bit)
           Product description: Supports PCMCIA Type II, III; accepts I/O,
              ATA disk drives, fax, modem and memory cards; internal;
              backplane; provides 2 PCMCIA slots
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                *** End ***

 Product:  OutBack CardDock GS-320
           * Data Sources Report COPYRIGHT 1998 Information Access Company
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Company:  Greystone Peripherals, Inc.
 Address:  130-A Knowles Dr.
           Los Gatos, CA  95030
           800-600-5710; 408-866-4739
           FAX: 408-866-8328
           Tech support: Use main no.
           Tech support BBS: 408-866-6938
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Category: PC Accessories/Peripherals
 Specs:    Mfr. suggested list price: $85
           Standard warranty included: 1 yr.
           Date announced: 1994
           Device type: PCMCIA Card Drives
           Compatible with: ISA (16-bit)
           Product description: Supports PCMCIA Type II, III; accepts I/O,
              ATA disk drives, fax, modem and memory cards; internal;
              backplane; provides 2 PCMCIA slots through 3.5" drive bay
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                *** End ***

 Product:  PCD324I
           * Data Sources Report COPYRIGHT 1998 Information Access Company
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Company:  MaxTech Corp.
 Address:  13915 Cerritos Corp. Dr.
           Cerritos, CA  90703
           800-9FOR-MAX; 562-921-1698
           Direct sales: 800-289-4821
           FAX: 562-802-9605
           Tech support: 562-921-4438
           Tech support BBS: 562-921-7180
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Category: PC Accessories/Peripherals
 Specs:    Mfr. suggested list price: $99
           Standard warranty included: 5 yr.
           Date announced: 1995
           Device type: PCMCIA Card Drives
           Compatible with: ISA (16-bit)
           Product description: Supports PCMCIA Type I, II, III; accepts I/O,
              ATA disk drives, fax, modem and memory cards; provides two
              PCMCIA slots through 3.5" floppy drive bay
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                *** End ***

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 08:03:10 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      DOS Help Files - Question
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Recently, a post to this mailing list dealt with DOS help files.  I
downloaded the two files, and after running them, I have a couple of
questions...

1) What exactly does this program do???  I noticed that it seems to
"know" something about the DOS on the machine it's run on.  For
example, when I run it on my desktop computer (Windows NT 4.0), I get
an expanded list of commands when compared to running it on my
palmtop.  At first, I thought I was just running a different help
program, but after renaming it, I am certain I was running the same
one.

2)  Are the help texts any different (or more informative) than one
gets with the /? option on a command?  I spot checked a couple of
commands, and I saw no difference between

  COMMAND /?
and
  HELP COMMAND

-Chris Lott


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R. Christopher Lott, P.E.                               lott@phase4.com
Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate address:
3405 Triana Blvd, SW                                      rclott@ro.com
Huntsville, AL  35805
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:00:37 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> >From:    "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> >I just posted a new version of WWW/LX on our Web page.
>
> For those of us that already purchased, is there a way we can get the latest
> version or do we have to re-buy the package to upgrade?

Their website says upgrades are $30 for existing users..if that's what
you're asking.

See http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wv2order.html

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:56:56 +0200
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              Vincent MOLLIMARD <vincent.mollimard@ESSTIN.ESSTIN.U-NANCY.FR>
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Subject:      Re: PC Keyboard interface
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Hi,

A few words about your project :
>- Serial interface with 4 AA batteries, with a jack for an optional
>external power supply.

The external power supply should not include the +5 V voltage regulator
witch could be placed in the keyboard. In that way, a car adaptator is
easy reduced to a lighter plug,a cord and a jack.

>- DB-9 male connector (to use with your cable)

Why not including a cable to plug directly into the serial connector
of the palmtop ?

Friendly,
             Vincent

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:09:36 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Nikon Coolpix 100
Comments: To: "Rowsell, Tom" <RowsellT@MAR.DFO-MPO.GC.CA>
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Rowsell, Tom wrote:

> Great...now that I just ordered one :(  I got 2 mail messages this
> morning, one from you guys telling me that the CoolPix 100 does not work
> with a HPLX, and another from CDW telling me my order has been shipped.
> YeeHaw !!
> Now then, where can I get a cheap PC Card Drive for my desktop?

All the indicators were that it should work. The following was from a FAQ
on the camera at:

http://www.maxwell.com.au/ei/products/nikon/cool100faq.html#card
---------------------------------------------------------
7. Is this digital camera compatible with any personal computer which has
a card slot?

Most 1996-1997 personal computers featuring a Type II PC Card slot that is
ATA-compatible can receive data from the camera. Since there is a wide
variation in this type of PC hardware, Nikon cannot guarantee
compatibility with all notebooks, but we maintain a list of tested units
and we are constantly checking compatibility as new laptops and other PC
card-capable devices appear on the market.

8. Can I use this digital camera with any personal digital assistant
featuring a PCMCIA-type II slot, for example the Color Zaurus?

PDAs offering compatibility with ATA commands should be compatible. Since
many currently available electronic organizers and PDAs are not
ATA-compatible, they cannot be used with this camera.
------------------------------------------

I was frankly surprised myself to hear several others mention problems
with accessing the card from the LX. Sorry if it doesn't work out for you,
but at least you didn't pay the former price of $300...and it's probably
still a nice little camera if you can find a PDA/notebook that can view
it.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 06:29:13 -0700
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              "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From:         "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Large Capacity PC Type II Cards Available
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I now have a reliable supply/source of large capacity PC Cards available
from Kingston and Simple Technologies.
>
Cards are 48MB/$299; 64MB/$399; 96MB/$499. Orders for 2 or more cards
receive $10 discount/card.
>
Shipping is $11 overnight in US; 3-4 day ship to non-US addresses via USPS
ExpressMail. $15 Australia/Singapore/ HK/Canada; $17 UK; $23 Europe/South
Africa.
>
Card sizes stated are uncompressed, but may be compressed for additional
storage.
>
Five-yr warranty on all cards and 30-day no-hassle refund if not satisfied.
Cards are dual voltage for improved battery life. HP1/200LX and HP300/620LX
compatible; no additional drivers needed. Continuous transfer rate of
700KB/second; burst rates of up to 10MB/second.
>
VISA/MC/AMEX accepted; no surcharge. Phone 562.433.3987 at any time; fax
562.439.3678. Email details in two or more messages for security.
>
If you need any additional information, please let me know.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems
Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017

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Subject: Re: WWWLX New Version


On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Russel Brooks wrote:

> >From:    "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
> >I just posted a new version of WWW/LX on our Web page.
>
> For those of us that already purchased, is there a way we can get the
latest
> version or do we have to re-buy the package to upgrade?

Their website says upgrades are $30 for existing users..if that's what
you're asking.

See http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wv2order.html

- Longden

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:32:05 -0400
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              "Stacy D. Coil" <coil.1@OSU.EDU>
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Ok,

I've seen a lot of requests out there asking how to get a particular pccard
to work.  Would it be possible to write a pcmcia socket service
application?  I realize that the slot is not 2.1 compliant, but someone
should be able to write the tsr to overcome that little 'feature.'


--Stacy

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1998 21:29:21 -0400
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              "Stacy D. Coil" <coil.1@OSU.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: PC Keyboard interface
Comments: To: Vincent MOLLIMARD <vincent.mollimard@ESSTIN.ESSTIN.U-NANCY.FR>
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Thanks for your message at 02:56 PM 4/7/98 +0200, Vincent MOLLIMARD. Your
message was:
>Hi,
>
>A few words about your project :
>>- Serial interface with 4 AA batteries, with a jack for an optional
>>external power supply.
>
>The external power supply should not include the +5 V voltage regulator
>witch could be placed in the keyboard. In that way, a car adaptator is
>easy reduced to a lighter plug,a cord and a jack.

The regulator will be on board, so that will be possible.

>
>>- DB-9 male connector (to use with your cable)

>
>Why not including a cable to plug directly into the serial connector
>of the palmtop ?
>

I probably will do this; but for now, I would like to use the db9 (cheaper,
easier to find, ...)

--Stacy

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:36:41 -0400
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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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Here's another camera adapter for desktop/laptop computers that uses the
parallel port and the keyboard port for power.  It should work for the Nikon
CoolPix 100 as well as any that use CompactFlash media.

Alan

Microtech International, Inc.
Cameramate Compactflash C/F Pcmcia Type I II III Reader/Writer

$71.46 at ncbuy.com http://www.netsales.net/pk.wcgi/netcent/prod/1169369

CameraMate is a PCMCIA PC card reader/writer with a built-in 50 pin
CompactFlash connector and a 68 pin PC Card connector. It accepts type I, II
and III ATA and CompactFlash with no adapter required. Has parallel port
connection with printer pass through

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:23:53 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Chin Jien Hung <jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG>
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From:         Chin Jien Hung <jienhung@SINGNET.COM.SG>
Subject:      Re: 700LX
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I also own a 2mb 200LX, use it when only I visit a country without GSM
support. Thought of selling it but no takers able to appreciate such a fine
product.

700LX has a built-in FAX and SMS (short messages), other than that it is
basically the same as 200LX with 2mb.

Visit http://hpcc923.external.hp.com/handheld/communicators/ for details on
700LX.

Regards,

Chin Jien Hung

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:52:04 -0400
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Just found this post regarding REXX and HP. It might be worth a visit
for those who might be thing about buying a REXX.


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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 10:00:30 -0700
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On Tue, 7 Apr 1998, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> Just found this post regarding REXX and HP. It might be worth a visit
> for those who might be thing about buying a REXX.

Looks like it's for WinCE only. Called TrueSync CE.

You'd have to buy a HP WinCE box with your Rexx, unless you already have
one.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:05:25 -0400
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Thanks.  I tried your suggestion and still had a problem with too many
characters.  After about 45, the modem responded ERROR.  So, I started
my Macro with ATS8=10{ENTER}ATDT and then followed with my dialing
sequence.  This redefined the , to 10 seconds.  Then I could get away
with fewer characters.  This worked.

Thank's for everyone's help.

>
>
> This may be true for numbers entered directly in Data Comm itself,
> but I successfully used a System Macro to direct my modem to dial
> a 43 character string using Data Comm.

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 11:12:03 -0700
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rowsell, Tom <RowsellT@MAR.DFO-MPO.GC.CA>


>These days, it seems that many people are opting/waiting for more
>expensive "differential-ready" GPS receivers. These units can receive
>positional information from the satellites, as well as correction
>information gleaned from known survey points. This process yields a more
>accurate position. However, the following U.S. announcement might make
>the differential technology "overkill" for most civilian uses: (sorry
>for the miserable formatting)...


That will be nice when the do it, but from what I read, current consumer
recievers will not get the new improved accurucy.  A new gps reciever will
have to be bought in order to recieve the new frequncies being used.

-Tim
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:09:10 -0500
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Subject:      Custom Cases

Has anyone ever produced customized cases for the 200lx?  I was just
thinking how nice it would be if I could pull the guts out of my 200lx
and drop them into a customized case unique to my needs.  I originally
thought it would be nice to have a cast aluminum (hey - how about
titanium) replacement case for Mil-Spec protection during backpacking and
airport expeditions.  (Try to break that hinge.)

Perhaps surveyors and the like (my father) would like a day-glo orange,
red, or yellow ABS case.  My stylish and attractive wife would like a
rich cherry, mahogany, or oak case.

I saw in the NYTimes that a company is doing this kind of thing with
desktop units (including monitor, keyboard, mouse, and tower).  Are there
parts inside the 200lx that are reliant on the green box?

Sure, there probably isn't much of a market for such stuff but a guy can
dream can't he?

Larry Zimmerman

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:45:10 -0600
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>
> Does anyone have knowledge of a GPS FAQ or have sufficient knowledge to
> discourse on the topic themselves?  I'd like to move toward GPS but am
> confused by the wide variety of choices and havn't got a handle on what
> the differences are.
>

<<<snip>>>>

> Larry Zimmerman
> KB0MBQ
>


I once knew nothing about GPS...
Then I found
   http://www.cnde.iastate.edu/gps.html

The ZEN of GPS
 At first I had NO GPS
 Then I KNOW GPS
 Now I NO GPS

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:03:36 -0500
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Seems like I remember seeing some advertising for such a case in an old
Palmtop Paper.  The HP (then a 95 if I remember right) was opened with the
screen laid flat, then put into a protective hardshell with a
plastic/fiberglass "windshield".  Don't remember who made it, though.

At 01:09 PM 4/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever produced customized cases for the 200lx?  I was just
>thinking how nice it would be if I could pull the guts out of my 200lx
>and drop them into a customized case unique to my needs.  I originally
>thought it would be nice to have a cast aluminum (hey - how about
>titanium) replacement case for Mil-Spec protection during backpacking and
>airport expeditions.  (Try to break that hinge.)
>
>Perhaps surveyors and the like (my father) would like a day-glo orange,
>red, or yellow ABS case.  My stylish and attractive wife would like a
>rich cherry, mahogany, or oak case.
>
>I saw in the NYTimes that a company is doing this kind of thing with
>desktop units (including monitor, keyboard, mouse, and tower).  Are there
>parts inside the 200lx that are reliant on the green box?
>
>Sure, there probably isn't much of a market for such stuff but a guy can
>dream can't he?
>
>Larry Zimmerman
>
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If you contact Avatar's tech support, they'll send u a beta version of
their DOS PCMCIA driver.

Anyone know where I can find the best prices for Avatar accessories (PCMCIA
adapter & disks)?


...lars

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 15:52:37 -0400
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Avatar is offering the Shark drive with both PCMCIA and parallel cables,
two 250MB disks and a carrying case for $250. You will probably also need
the AC adapter, $30.
Are you sure the DOS driver is compatible with the HP's older PCMCIA
Card and Socket Services?


On Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:01:08 -0700
Larry Soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM> wrote:

> If you contact Avatar's tech support, they'll send u a beta version of
> their DOS PCMCIA driver.
>
> Anyone know where I can find the best prices for Avatar accessories (PCMCIA
> adapter & disks)?
>
>
> ...lars
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:52:12 -0700
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Longden:

> Their website says upgrades are $30 for existing users..if that's what
> you're asking.
>
> See http://www.dasoft.com/WWW/wv2order.html

Thanks. Just to add, if someone purchased AFTER January 1,
1998, the upgrade is free. Proof of purchase (fax of invoice
is good!) is required.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 12:52:07 -0700
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Russ:

> For those of us that already purchased, is there a way we can get the l
> atest
> version or do we have to re-buy the package to upgrade?

In plain letters it says on the Web page: Upgraders pay
$30.00. If you purchased AFTER January 1, 1998, the upgrade is
free (we require proof of purchase in this case, please!)

Look in http://www.dasoft.com please.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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On the palmtop there is Quick/LX available from Shier Systems
& Software California USA 1805 371 9391. It will compare what
you write to a wordlist it has (which you can add to, or make
the program learn!). If it begins to match it will offer
completion (or completions, if several words could fit, you
pick the one).

It can also run more complex macros in such cases. I use it
permanently. Many time I type "teh" for "the", "becasue" for
"because", "form" for "from". Quick/LX alerts me and fixes it
with one keystroke.

It was written by my partner in D&A Software, Inc., Andreas
Garzotto, before he joined me at D&A. We don't sell it,
unfortunately. It is a great little gem!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Ted:

> This may be true for numbers entered directly in Data Comm itself,
> but I successfully used a System Macro to direct my modem to dial
> a 43 character string using Data Comm.

Great, I just posted that I thought it was a modem limit, and
maybe someone found a trick around it! I am curious what the
macro looks like (don't give us the secret code for your
credit, please ;-)...)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 13:38:52 -0500
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This is on Simtel and was quite popular with the BBS crowd:
tdraw463.zip   287K  931113  TheDraw v4.63: ANSI/ASCII screen designer


Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I remember some tlk here a while back about an ascII graphics editor...
> anyone know what happened?
>
> Or alternatively, a very small gif editor.
>
> My problem is adding simple diagrams to html. I'm happy with the lo-tech
> solution of just using ASCII grphics (within a <PRE> </PRE>) - my main
> need is a very small program to do this - in ASCII or gif.
>
> Yeah, I know I *could* do it in a text editor, but that's horrible, isn't it?
> :)
>
> ---
> PS my homepage (see sig) describes "SML", a very Simple Markup Language I've
> developed. A program converts your text to to html (or to LaTeX, depending
> on what you want) - but it's much easier and simpler to work in than html
> (or LaTeX...)
>
> --
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The following is a full DOS editor with word completion:
MR250.zip is on Simtel. Mind Reader editor, shareware from
Bown Bag ($50). Apparently not crippled.

Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> IN a lecture today, I watched someone taking notes on a laptop using
> Word. Very impressive speed was gained from "word completion" -
>
>         for example, if the word "ombudsman" has occurred already, then
>         typing o and then the word-completion key gets you "ombudsman"
>         (though "occurred" comes up first :))
>
> This is available in Vim - but Vim's 400k and kinda slow on the palmtop.
> I've heard others mention editors that have word-completion.
>
> I don't really want to adapt to another editor .... but it might be worth
> it just for this feature! Any reccommendations?
>
> PS if you're a vi user, and haven't tried Vim, I reccommend giving it
> a go.
>
> --
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 14:48:25 -0700
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At 03:52 PM 4/7/98 -0400, allen solof wrote:
>Avatar is offering the Shark drive with both PCMCIA and parallel cables,
>two 250MB disks and a carrying case for $250. You will probably also need
>the AC adapter, $30.

Unfortunately, I already bought the base unit w/parallel adapter.  As for
the AC adapter, it's not needed.  The Shark gets its power from either the
mouse or keyboard ports or, in the case of the PCMCIA unit, the PCMCIA card.

>Are you sure the DOS driver is compatible with the HP's older PCMCIA
>Card and Socket Services?

No.  All I know is that they've made a DOS driver available for the PCMCIA
adapter.


...lars

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 21:57:37 -0400
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>
>Date:    Mon, 6 Apr 1998 22:20:32 -0500
>From:    Jim Johnson <jjohnson@TMCC.COM>
>Subject: Re: Best GPS/software for HP200
>
>I've seen the Garmin receivers at the local super sporting goods
>stores.
>I used the Tripmate tonight using LXGPS and it worked great on a local
>map
>that was sent to me.  VERY accurate (well, that means that it stayed
>on the
>roads for the most part).  I plan to use it on a trip tomorrow from
>Indiana
>to Iowa.  Don't have all the intervening maps, so I'll just do it with
>a
>large US map.
>
>Wish list for LXGPS....automatic switching of maps, better distance
>estimates using roads instead of "as the crow flies".   Oh, well, it
>is
>still a pretty nice program!
>Jim J.
>Carmel, IN
>
>
>
>
>
>jviehweg@LUCENT.COM on 04/06/98 09:30:31 PM
>
>Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
>      jviehweg@LUCENT.COM
>
>To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
>cc:
>Subject:  Re: Best GPS/software for HP200
>
>
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
>> So, if you use some sort of GPS receiver and software on your
>HP200LX,
>> could you send me a message with the pros and cons, price paid, etc.
>so
>> that I can find the best?  If enough people send me the info, I will
>> compile it down to a FAQ-type thing.
>So far, the consensus seems to be for the Garmin II+ or III.  I tried
>to
>check them out today.  No joy.  I tried CompUSA, Computer City, Radio
>Shack (yeah, right!) and Babbage's (I was in the mall, ok?  I didn't
>really
>think they had any!).  No one had any Garmin stuff.  Just Tripmate and
>some other thing that I never heard of.
>No one told me that they had a Tripmate.  Just Garmin.  Said Garmin
>was
>the cat's meow of GPS receivers.  So, where in the heck do you get
>one???
>What is a good price?
>Also, most suggested Delorme Street Atlas as a means to make maps for
>LXGPS (which looks real good, a GPS receiver would make it better!).
>Is $50 for version 5.0 good?
>Locationally challenged,
>jaime
>--
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>
Well, I've used most of the packages (Street Atlas, Map'n'Go, Trip Maker,
Street Finder, Automap/Expedia Road Atlas & Streets, Precision Mapping).
For getting maps to PCX format on the LX use any of them with Paint Shop
Pro (Win3.x or Win95) to copy & save the screen in PCX format (or
anything else which lets you get the map on screen - see also the Census
Bureau Tiger site Ýhttp://tiger.census.com¨ for anywhere you need to go,
with selectable detail; or Lycos has a place finder which I can't
remember off hand). If you have any intention of using the mapping
package with anything other than the 200LX, I'd prefer R-M Trip Maker for
route plotting. It has a much better "avoid" feature than Street Atlas /
Map'n'Go from DeLorme (which avoid feature frankly reeks!!!!) in that it
lets you mark a specific street to avoid, while SA/MnG require you to
draw a circle, or series of circles, over the road(s) you want to avoid,
right up to the last intersection before you start on one, and it still
doesn't always avoid the roads you want to stay off!!!!. If you can (on
paper, or screen) plan your own route first, in detail, SA will do - I
just don't think much of its planning capabilities, and I'd hate you to
get something with misfeatures you'd later regret. All of the above
packages are in the $40-$50 range, so price shouldn't limit you.

As for receivers - yes, by all means, get a 12 channel receiver - they
have the capability of receiving up to 12 satellites at the same time, on
parallel receivers. The earlier (up to 8 channel) receivers switched
rapidly (but not all that rapidly) between the available satellites.
TripMate has the 12 channel chip, as do most of the new receivers of the
past year or two. I have a Tripmate (got it with SA4), which I've just
about retired for an Eagle Expedition II hand-held (don't want to *have*
to run a computer/PDA along with the receiver). Magellan also makes some
good receivers (Magellan 4000 has support for parallel output). SA/MnG
runs with every receiver I've tried it with, if immediate position is all
you need. R-M & Expedia are more sensitive. Trimble receivers use a
non-standard message - they're good receivers AFAIK (haven't tried one,
but they make receivers for surveyors, too) but be advised. NMEA 183,
version 2 is the latest standard. Check the receiver specs to ensure
that's what they handle. Also nice to have are provisions for an external
antenna (in a car, plane, etc.) and DGPS if you may want to get fancy
later.

I will qualify my advice with the caveat that I usually use my GPS with
my laptop (Omnibook 600 or Toshiba 440), while on the road - the
navigator can quickly reprogram the route if we hear of bad traffic
(that's *we*, my wife and myself, - these things are as bad as cell
phones if you're alone - and worse with the screen on a 200). That also
explains my dislike for the SA/MnG avoidance routine. The greatest
experience I had was going to a meeting at one of the local Army bases,
with the annotated map on my Omnibook 600 and the GPS receiver hooked up
- when I pulled up at the gate the guard called his buddy over to see the
map on the computer, then I told him it was hooked up to the GPS to show
my route & he wanted to know where to get one!!!

For more information, or to get one, try Navtech
(http://www.navtechgps.com), or look at the links page on GPS World
magazine (http://www.gpsworld.com). Navtech has competitive prices and
provides good specs on-line. Robin Lovelock has a GPS software package
for Windows with contributed maps for much of the world at
http://www.gpss.co.uk/ Some of them may be useful on the 200.

Note - I can go on (and have) for a couple of hours on the technology &
features of GPS. Been using it and mapping software for a while. Any
further questions, give me a holler.

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1998 20:40:55 -0700
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I understand that most GPS are only accurate to a speed of 99 miles per
hour. I have a Gramin GPS 20 engine (no case, power supply, or display)
that I got about three years ago that claims it is accurate to 999 miles
per hour. My interest was to use it in an airplane where speeds over 99
miles per our are common.

Can any one shead more light on this?

Karl

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A couple of weeks ago there was a thread on German programs for the =
HP200LX.  The programs discussed in the thread were very helpful but =
tended to focus around German/English electronic dictionaries.  I was =
wondering if anyone knew of a German program that dealt with German verb =
conjugations or entire phrases?=20

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     Hi!
     My son got one he can use on an airplane. So it must be good up to
     about 650 miles per hour.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-kdelyria (kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    4/7/98 9:40 PM


I understand that most GPS are only accurate to a speed of 99 miles per
hour. I have a Gramin GPS 20 engine (no case, power supply, or display)
that I got about three years ago that claims it is accurate to 999 miles
per hour. My interest was to use it in an airplane where speeds over 99
miles per our are common.

Can any one shead more light on this?

Karl

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     Hi!
     I sure could use a German/English Electronics Dictionary. How can I
     get it?


     Helmut in Colorado


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A couple of weeks ago there was a thread on German programs for the HP200LX.  Th
e programs discussed in the thread were very helpful but tended to focus around
German/English electronic dictionaries.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a Ger
man program that dealt with German verb conjugations or entire phrases?

Thanks in advance.

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 01:02:04 -0500
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Helmut
Go to the monash palmtop site and look for the dictty??.zip file. It's a
German-English dictionary.
Tony Guzewicz

Helmut Grossinger wrote:

>      Hi!
>      I sure could use a German/English Electronics Dictionary. How can I
>      get it?
>
>      Helmut in Colorado
>
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> Author:  Non-HP-Dan.Sommer (Dan.Sommer@M.CC.UTAH.EDU) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
> Date:    4/7/98 10:06 PM
>
> A couple of weeks ago there was a thread on German programs for the HP200LX.  Th
> e programs discussed in the thread were very helpful but tended to focus around
> German/English electronic dictionaries.  I was wondering if anyone knew of a Ger
> man program that dealt with German verb conjugations or entire phrases?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Just recently I have run into problems with Datacomm. First time in 3 years!
Somehow something got corrupted. The error messages say e.g.: bad .ICF file,
communications ports is defaulted to com1, cannot write file because
communications port is set  to com1 and more of the like. Resetting (soft
and hard) does not help. When trying to change the settings some weird
characters (smiley's for instance) appear in some the fields. Trying to open
a new .dcf file does not work because of the com port problem and trying to
go back to factory defaults does not work either, What can I do (except for
reformatting my C: disk of course?).

Thanks

Frank

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>I understand that most GPS are only accurate to a speed of 99 miles per
hour.

This was a marketing ploy by Garmin to sell two ranges of their handheld
GPSs at two different prices.

The Garmin 45 (from memory) had some code that if it detected a speed
over 99Knots it displayed "poor satellite reception" or something to
that effect.

This code was not present on their GPS range for Aviation use (which
cost more!!).

A group of coders in the US tried for several months to reverse engineer
the 45's code to find the offending lines, not sure what the outcome
was, but Garmin sure got some poor publicity for it's actions!

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   >Just recently I have run into problems with Datacomm. First time in
   >3 years! Somehow something got corrupted. The error messages say e.
   >g.: bad .ICF file, communications ports is defaulted to com1,
   >cannot write file because communications port is set  to com1 and
   >more of the like. Resetting (soft and hard) does not help. When
   >trying to change the settings some weird characters (smiley's for
   >instance) appear in some the fields. Trying to open a new .dcf file
   >does not work because of the com port problem and trying to go back
   >to factory defaults does not work either, What can I do (except for
   >reformatting my C: disk of course?).
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:42:36 +0000
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Datacomm creates a file called c:\_dat\term.env
which has the session settings.  ou may try deleting that, as it may
have gotten corrupted. You'd then have to re-enter session parameters
such as baud,phone number etc.

- Longden

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Wow,

That easy huh, and it worked!

Thanks!

Frank


|   >Just recently I have run into problems with Datacomm. First time in
|   >3 years! Somehow something got corrupted. The error messages say e.
|   >g.: bad .ICF file, communications ports is defaulted to com1,
|   >cannot write file because communications port is set  to com1 and
|   >more of the like. Resetting (soft and hard) does not help. When
|   >trying to change the settings some weird characters (smiley's for
|   >instance) appear in some the fields. Trying to open a new .dcf file
|   >does not work because of the com port problem and trying to go back
|   >to factory defaults does not work either, What can I do (except for
|   >reformatting my C: disk of course?).
|Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 10:42:36 +0000
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|
|Datacomm creates a file called c:\_dat\term.env
|which has the session settings.  ou may try deleting that, as it may
|have gotten corrupted. You'd then have to re-enter session parameters
|such as baud,phone number etc.
|
|- Longden
|
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>
> I understand that most GPS are only accurate to a speed of 99 miles per
> Can any one shead more light on this?
>
        I have a Garmin 45 which does have a restricted top speed.  I
        also have a Garmin II+ which does not have such a restricted
        speed limit (I have forgotten how high the limit is, but faster
        than I am likely to go relative to the satellites :-).  It was
        great fun to use LXGPS and my II+ between Germany and the USA.

                        --jim

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Only the early versions of the Garmin units, the Garmin 45 in
particular, have this limitation. It was an artificial limitation so
as not to cut into the sales of their aviation units which cost
a lot more. A lot of people were mad about this. None of the other
manufactures ever did this to my knowledge.
-Bryan



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> I understand that most GPS are only accurate to a speed of 99 miles per
> hour. I have a Gramin GPS 20 engine (no case, power supply, or display)
> that I got about three years ago that claims it is accurate to 999 miles
> per hour. My interest was to use it in an airplane where speeds over 99
> miles per our are common.
>
> Can any one shead more light on this?
>
> Karl
>

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On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Frank Ubachs wrote:

> Just recently I have run into problems with Datacomm. First time in 3 years!
> Somehow something got corrupted. The error messages say e.g.: bad .ICF file,
> communications ports is defaulted to com1, cannot write file because
> communications port is set  to com1 and more of the like. Resetting (soft
> and hard) does not help. When trying to change the settings some weird
> characters (smiley's for instance) appear in some the fields. Trying to open
> a new .dcf file does not work because of the com port problem and trying to
> go back to factory defaults does not work either, What can I do (except for
> reformatting my C: disk of course?).
>


This seems very strange!  I've used Data Comm for some time with
nary a problem.  I've searched high and low, but can't find *any*
file on my 32M LX with the icf extension.  (By the way, are there
*really* no system files on the 200LX?  I found none despite doing
"dir /s/a:s")

I wonder if Data Comm might let you define a new terminal if you
were to delete the "term.env" file from the _DAT directory.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 11:25:43 -0400
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I have updated the Lotus Agenda links page at:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/alinks.htm

  - More information has been added to the Agenda download page

  - A separate page has been created with instructions for installing
Agenda on 200LX's,
    includes instructions on how to speed up Agenda

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Subject:      Re: Best GPS/software for HP200 again
In-Reply-To:  <19980406213031.41678@gv04072.ih.lucent.com>; from Jaime Viehweg
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On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 09:30:31PM -0500, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> ÝI had a bunch of questions about what to buy and where here¨

Ok.  I got a Garmin GPS III (from Walmart of all places!) but they
didn't have the PC cable.  I called a bunch of places around here
that are listed on the Garmin web site as being resellers of Garmin
products.  No on has the cable.  Bah!  So, the manual makes me think
that the "data out" and "data in" are normal RS232 type pins so I
connect them to my 200LX (don't ask me how...pile of wire!) but
no joy!  The Garmin seems to be sending something out (according to
a breakout box) but the HP doesn't seem to get it.  I have tried
from within APPMGR (data comm, lxgps) with buddy, without buddy, from
the DOS command prompt, without APPMGR running, etc. but nothing ever
shows on the LXGPS window (mainly watching "monitor/F5").  What
am I missing?  Does the cable mess with something to make this work?

Besides the above, this is the second best toy I ever got!  (Three
guesses which is number one...the first two guesses don't count!)

jaime
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 12:15:53 -0600
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> Bah!  So, the manual makes me think
> that the "data out" and "data in" are normal RS232 type pins so I
> connect them to my 200LX (don't ask me how...pile of wire!) but
> no joy!

Did you hook up the ground wire?  This is very important for battery
operated equipment like the 200LX.  Those signals gotta have a
reference!

Regarding the cable, after spending too much on one from Garmin, I
ran across a fellow on the internet who makes the cables himself in
his personal 40-ton plastic injection molding machine in his
kitchen! (I suspect he's single). I'll bet everyone's real happy
around there on molding day, whiffing those plastic fumes!

Anyway, you drop him or one of his "distributors" an e-mail, and
they send you the requested number of connectors. You then pay what
you think they're worth. Search on the net for purple connectors and
Garmin.

I purchased two, and although simple, they're more than adequate for
my purposes.  I made a short power cable for operating my GPSIII in
the car from the cigarette lighter socket.  Works like a champ.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:17:49 +0200
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Well, I have been too optimistic. My original problem disappeared by
deleting the term.env. But it reappeared again. And the file the error
message refers to has a .CTF extension not .icf as stated before! Now I am
able to use datacomm just after haing deleted the term.env but when I try
to load a .dcf file it locks up again. Can anyone help me out?

Frank

On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Ted Heise wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Apr 1998, Frank Ubachs wrote:
>
> > Just recently I have run into problems with Datacomm. First time in 3 years!
> > Somehow something got corrupted. The error messages say e.g.: bad .ICF file,
> > communications ports is defaulted to com1, cannot write file because
> > communications port is set  to com1 and more of the like. Resetting (soft
> > and hard) does not help. When trying to change the settings some weird
> > characters (smiley's for instance) appear in some the fields. Trying to open
> > a new .dcf file does not work because of the com port problem and trying to
> > go back to factory defaults does not work either, What can I do (except for
> > reformatting my C: disk of course?).
> >
>
>
> This seems very strange!  I've used Data Comm for some time with
> nary a problem.  I've searched high and low, but can't find *any*
> file on my 32M LX with the icf extension.  (By the way, are there
> *really* no system files on the 200LX?  I found none despite doing
> "dir /s/a:s")
>
> I wonder if Data Comm might let you define a new terminal if you
> were to delete the "term.env" file from the _DAT directory.
>
> Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA
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I have one that I use anytime that I will be doing more that a little typing.
Works well, easy to install and use. I think it was worth the money.

Andy

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:52:14 -0400
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Hamed Haidara wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I am planning to buy a Newton Keyboard from Shier for typing on my
> HP200LX. Can anyone tell me if this keyboard really works? Is it work
> the price? Thanks.

I bought mine from Shier a few months ago.  Took a little longer to get
than I had expected but otherwise it's fine.  It was easy to install.  I
use it for lengthy typing tasks although I prefer the 200 LX keyboard
for quick entries.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:57:33 -0400
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Oskar,
   Oskar Itziner <oskar@OPEC.ORG> wrote about uncommon DOS applications in
an E-mail dated Mon, 6 Apr 1998 07:56:21 -0400  Your E-mail got me to quit
lurking and make my first post to the list

Many thanks to the members of the list.  I have learned a great deal from
the various discussions. I got my HP200lx in December of 97 (I should have
done it sooner.)  It is great
Oskar lists several programs.

   --IBM's APL2 (yes, with all the genuine function symbols)

Do you run the commercial version of APL2 or the demo tryAPL2?.

I have just put a version of APL on my HP200, IBM Personal Computer APL version
1.0. (copyright 1983) on my HP.  One has to run the Math coprocessor
emulator, em87.com but the 40 column color CGA mode works quite well on the
HP200.  Another advantage is the entire package uncompressed fits in less
than 180,000 bytes.  As time permits I am mapping the keyboard and
relearning APL.  It is a excellent package for math.

   -- Texas Instrument's PC Scheme
What is this?

-- Neil Larson's MaxThink hypertext outliner
Can you say more about this program?  Where can it be obtained

DOS and the HP200 are an excellent combination.

T. G. Hess  THess@FFIC.COM

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 05:40:26 +0900
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              ITSUMI ken-ichi <amt@PPP.BEKKOAME.OR.JP>
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Hi lxers

If your have a copy of Software Corousel to sale,
Please let me known.

ken

IABRAGI,Japan

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:02:56 -0600
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I know what you're thinking "Not another hinge question!" but give me a =
break I've looked through the archive threads and there are soooo many =
side notes and "by the ways" that I couldn't find the last word on =
hinges.=20

As of late I've noticed that the left hinge on my 200LX is looser than =
the right hinge. I did find an old 95LX thread that said it was normal =
for the left hinge to be looser than the right.  Is it normal for the =
200LX?  If it's not normal I would like to know if the right hinge can =
be tightened.  I would also like to know if anything has been written on =
hinge preventative maintenance.  Any suggestions (other than look =
through the threads) or references to articles that specifically address =
hinges would be appreciated.=20

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 14:30:20 -0700
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Currently, I believe Rundel Datentechnik (www.rundel-d.com) in
Germany has copies, and perhaps also Shier Systems &
Software (www.shier.com). Hal Goldstein of The Palmtop Paper
announced that he obtained the rights for the product, and
will soon start selling it too (a month? two? - I do not know
when!)

Best Regards,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

> If your have a copy of Software Corousel to sale,
> Please let me known.

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:56:09 -0500
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On Wed, 8 Apr 1998 ubachs@xs4all.nl wrote:

> Well, I have been too optimistic. My original problem disappeared by
> deleting the term.env. But it reappeared again. And the file the error
> message refers to has a .CTF extension not .icf as stated before! Now I am
> able to use datacomm just after haing deleted the term.env but when I try
> to load a .dcf file it locks up again. Can anyone help me out?
>

Frank, what happens if you just create a new .dcf file instead
of opening an existing one?  You might also try sticking all your
.dcf files in another directory.

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:29:27 -0500
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I'm looking for a Japanese game called Shogi that will run on the 200lx.

Thanks
Tony Guzewicz

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:12:00 -0400
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Greetings Fellow Palmtoppers,

     I seem to be suffering from an embarrassment of wealth in the LX
compatibale MODEM department, so it is time for "spring cleaning". I
have two offerings. I am asking $50(OBO) for each (shipping
negoatiable):

#1 InfoTel 1414VOP "pocket modem": runs on 9V or AC w/ adapter
included. Has DB9 connector. I have parts necessary to build 10pin->DB9
cable, and will do so if required (+ $10)

#2 MegaHertz XJ3144 "XJack" w/ Motorola Cellular Cable: I used this
most successfully with my OmniBook, but also in 200LX w/NetTamer (never
got it to work w/ my ISP & WWW/LX, but others have done so
successfully)

Please respond to me off the LIST, Thanks.

Cheers,

*       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:25:43 +0000
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Hello Fellows,

I'm trying to run on my HP200 2 Meg RAM the spreadsheet Excel 2.0
(abandonware) which can't be load as the system needs some old
Windows and/or DOS files.

 Would someone have a list of which files are requested in
order to run Excel 2.0, or have an idea where I can possibly find
such files on Internet ?

Thanks in advance for your help,
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:25:43 +0000
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Hello,

I have created a spreadsheet in Lotus which keeps track of my working
time. Everything is fine with records that are smaller than 24 hours.

If I have entries with more than 24 hours, instead of getting the
total amount of hours, I get the number of days.

Is there a possibility to get the right result by still using the
format @time(hh;mm;ss) ?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
best regards

Raphael

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:37:35 +0300
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Hello,
I'm looking for pocket modem, but how do I pay You?
Thanks.

On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Al Kind wrote:

> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:12:00 -0400
> From: Al Kind <MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: FS: XJack & InfoTel MODEMS
>
> Greetings Fellow Palmtoppers,
>
>      I seem to be suffering from an embarrassment of wealth in the LX
> compatibale MODEM department, so it is time for "spring cleaning". I
> have two offerings. I am asking $50(OBO) for each (shipping
> negoatiable):
>
> #1 InfoTel 1414VOP "pocket modem": runs on 9V or AC w/ adapter
> included. Has DB9 connector. I have parts necessary to build 10pin->DB9
> cable, and will do so if required (+ $10)
>
> #2 MegaHertz XJ3144 "XJack" w/ Motorola Cellular Cable: I used this
> most successfully with my OmniBook, but also in 200LX w/NetTamer (never
> got it to work w/ my ISP & WWW/LX, but others have done so
> successfully)
>
> Please respond to me off the LIST, Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
>
> *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
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> *\_,_/_/_.__/\__/_/  \__/ __/ (_) /_/\_\/_/_//_/\_,_/ 200LX
> *                        |___/
> *Al Kind,Lab Mgr,Microchem.U193,Univ of CT,3113 Horsebarn Rd
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 04:43:14 -0800
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Subject:      Looking for modem AT command set list document

Is there a document available that lists and defines the most common AT
 commands. Ideally, a document that has all commands and hihglights those
 that are specific to certain brands of modems would be great.

TIA


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
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Warning:  I'm still trying to find a *use* for EMS on my 200LX.. :)

I have a 8 meg Double speed machine, and I'd like to free up some system ram
by using EMS, and perhaps Loadhigh, HIGHMEM.SYS, etc..  The 200LX is my first
MS-DOS machine so I don't know much about this sort of thing to be honest.

I've tried device=highmem.sys and dos=ums,high (what does that mean?) in
and a few devicehigh-... in config.sys, and a few loadhigh drive:/path/file in
autoexec, but it says that it was loaded low and I have the same resulting
memory (plus 2k, assuming it's from the devicehigh on two small devices
that aren't getting loaded at all.)

Any way to do this?  I'm testing using DosShell rather than MaxDos for
allowing more flexable usage, and I think I like the setup, but I only get
296K when I load SysMgr from DosShell, as reported under SMMX with nothing
else loaded except Filer, which I wish wouldn't automatically open nor remain
open after closing.  I know the hack to the Appmgr.DAT file, and I use
TaskList so I can close Filer, just would be nice not to have to manually do
it.

Ugh, it's really, really late (early I suppose)..  Must sleep, must allow
brain to rest, must stop griping.

I'd appreciate any himem/ems comments!! (Even 'you moron!' ones :)

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:08:43 -0400
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              "Michael D. Stocker" <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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How about logging your times as complete date entries, then
simply subtract between two entries and multiply by 24 to
get hours?

a2 = 4/9/98 11:00pm = 35894.96
a3 = 4/10/98 5:00am = 35895.21

(a3-a2)*24=6 hrs


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| From: Raphael Rues <rr.rr@POP.AGRI.CH>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Problem in Tracking hours in Lotus 123
| Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 3:25 AM
|
| Hello,
|
| I have created a spreadsheet in Lotus which keeps track
of my working
| time. Everything is fine with records that are smaller
than 24 hours.
|
| If I have entries with more than 24 hours, instead of
getting the
| total amount of hours, I get the number of days.
|
| Is there a possibility to get the right result by still
using the
| format @time(hh;mm;ss) ?
|
| Thanks in advance for your reply,
| best regards
|
| Raphael
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Raphael Rues wrote:
>
> I'm trying to run on my HP200 2 Meg RAM the spreadsheet Excel 2.0
> (abandonware) which can't be load as the system needs some old
> Windows and/or DOS files.

Raphael, i don't quite understand what you mean by it needs "some old
windows and/or dos files" - could you be more specific?

PS: i don't think that you could consider excel 2.x abandonware in my
understanding of the term so please be vigilant for the MS police who
may not take kindly to the idea... :-)

Regards,


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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Walter R Francis wrote:

> Warning:  I'm still trying to find a *use* for EMS on my 200LX.. :)
>
> I have a 8 meg Double speed machine, and I'd like to free up some system ram
> by using EMS, and perhaps Loadhigh, HIGHMEM.SYS, etc..  The 200LX is my first
> MS-DOS machine so I don't know much about this sort of thing to be honest.

I don't believe you can use those commands (loadhigh, himem.sys) for the
200LX. There was a some facet of memory management that allowed 'normal'
DOS systems to load some memory resident programs (or parts of them) into
an area called 'high memory' which I think was the region between 640k and
1mb, in order to conserve 'real' memory which was the lower 640k.

The Hornet chip built into the LX doesn't seem to allow for the addressing
of high memory, and I'm sure someone out there can elaborate on the
reason, but I have a feeling that the LX must use the addressing region
for something else specific to itself.

> Any way to do this?  I'm testing using DosShell rather than MaxDos for
> allowing more flexable usage, and I think I like the setup, but I only get
> 296K when I load SysMgr from DosShell, as reported under SMMX with nothing
> else loaded except Filer, which I wish wouldn't automatically open nor remain
> open after closing.  I know the hack to the Appmgr.DAT file, and I use
> TaskList so I can close Filer, just would be nice not to have to manually do
> it.

I use MaxDOS myself because it makes use of EMS. I'm not so sure about
DosShell. The benefits of EMS are heavily dependent on the mix of software
you use as many do not recognize EMS. If you want a task swapper more
versatile than MaxDOS, you may want to look at Software Carousel
(whereever that is sold these days), which does use EMS.

The quest to increase available conventional RAM goes on. You just have to
diddle with the config.sys and autoexec.bat, to add/remove TSR's to suit
your preference for convenience vs your pain in running out of memory.
That's the stuff of DOS...everyone has a different mix.

- Longden

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Dear Group,
       I am looking for Microsoft Works, the dos version, I think it is
version 1.0. I have had my 200LX for not quite a year and now see that I
have to do everything in DOS to get the best out of its versatility.
        I could just about do everything I would like to do using this
program. Am I on the right track?
        Thanks, Tom Lohre

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:12:17 -0500
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On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 09:30:31PM -0500, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> > ÝI had a bunch of questions about what to buy and where here¨
> ÝAnd then I had trouble getting LXGPS to work¨

Ok.  You all can relax now!  I have LXGPS working.  I am not really sure
what I did different this particular attempt out of 1,000 but it is
happy now.  Seems to have started working right after I sent a message
to the guy that wrote it.  Strange.  :/

So that this message isn't totally bogus, here is how I constructed my
"cable".

Standard HP cable (10 pin whatever to 9 pin female D) with HP male gender
changer attached (need pins, not holes!).  I have three 12" long jumpers
that are probably for some sort of test equipment that have a socket just
right for serial pins that I attach as follows:

GPSIII    -            male 9pin
          .            2 (RD)
     R  .   .  T       3 (TD)
          .            5 (GND)
          +

'R' to 3, 'T' to 2, and '-' to 5.

I don't know how well this will work if you use '-' and '+' for powering
the GPS.  I also don't know if this is the same on any other Garmin unit.
If you blow up your expensive toy, don't blame me!

Thanks again to those that helped me out with this.

jaime
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> ....  Seems to have started working right after I sent a message
> to the guy that wrote it.  Strange.  :/

I think he sends out an "enable/disable" message to each serial
number LXGPS software program over the satellite's signal, using
the spare bits in the navigation message.   |8-)

-Chris

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 08:21:01 -0600
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Greetings,

I'm attempting to setup and use Word v5.5 on my 2MB 200LX. It's directory is on a
40MB flash disk.

When I launch the program and begin using it, I experience a very odd behavior.
Sometime during the first two minutes of use, it will stop responding to keystrokes.
This behavior will persist for between ~2 minutes to forever. That is, sometimes it
returns control to the keyboard, and sometimes not. If it does return control to the
keyboard, the same behavior will repeat itself sometime in the next several minutes,
and on, and on.

I've attempted to run it from the DOS prompt (after exiting System Manager), under
MaxDOS (v 0.3.7), with and without BUDDY active, with and without MaxDOS loaded. The
only other TSRs loaded are LXFONT and DOSKEY.

All other DOS programs I've used, do not exhibit this behavior, including WordPerfect
5.1, QBASIC, LPA Prolog-16, docRTF, Nettamer, and 1stReader.

(I prefer not to use WordPerfect because I must be able to work with RTF files.)

Any assistance or suggestions toward solving this frustrating situation would be very
welcome!

_don

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 09:54:40 -0600
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Is there an option you can select on the HP200LX to have it
automatically change the time for daylight savings? I looked but
couldn't find anything.
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:20:18 -0700
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If you have the option set in WorldTime, it will automatically update the
clock (with verification from you) when the time changes.  Unfortunately,
you have to go into WorldTime to get it to realize that the time has
changed...

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, Thomas C. Lange wrote:

> Is there an option you can select on the HP200LX to have it
> automatically change the time for daylight savings? I looked but
> couldn't find anything.

When I opened the WorldTime App during the changeover, it asked me if I
wanted to reset the system clock. I picked OK and voila...system clock was
reset to daylight savings. Don't recall if there's an option to turn that
feature on/off or not.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 11:59:07 -0500
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You can select Daylight savings time for each city on a city-by-city
basis.

Phil

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Heard that some twisters ripped up Alabama several other states pretty
badly. Sounds like it happened near Mack Baggette's general area of the
state.

Anyone know if Mack and Jeff Johns were affected? I think Jeff lives not
too far from Mack.

- Longden

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Still looking for dead or partially working HP100/200LX.  Let me know.

Thanks

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Here is an URL on Purple Open Projects. Bascially shareware hardware.
   http://home.cdsnet.net/~purple/
This guy has been a great service to the Tandy Model 100 community in
the past.  Please support his efforts.  Maybe we should talk him into
making connectors for the HPLX.  I am sure there are enough of us to
support a first run effort and he already has the know how and possibly
the motivation.

> Regarding the cable, after spending too much on one from Garmin, I
> ran across a fellow on the internet who makes the cables himself in
> his personal 40-ton plastic injection molding machine in his
> kitchen! (I suspect he's single). I'll bet everyone's real happy
> around there on molding day, whiffing those plastic fumes!
>
> Anyway, you drop him or one of his "distributors" an e-mail, and
> they send you the requested number of connectors. You then pay what
> you think they're worth. Search on the net for purple connectors and
> Garmin.

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I have an EXP external hard drive, with a PCMCIA card cable, that I use
with a notebook computer, and am wondering if this thing can be used with
the HPX00/LX.  I know the power requirements are probably steep (to spin
the HD, etc.), but it is available with an AC power supply.  Does anyone
have experience with this device?  1.2 GB on a palmtop, even though it
would essentially double the palmtop's volume, would be sort of, well,
COOL.  Any ideas?

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I have several shrinkwrapped copies (5.25 disks)
available that I offer for $15 shipped. Includes a
manual and a getting started booklet.

I am not a Wizard of Works, so I can't answer all Q's.
Installed, it takes about 1.3 meg, including spell checker,
thesarus, and help; but not tutorial. Early MS GUI (select and
print are major menu items), it works pretty well without a mouse,
and configuration has an option for LCD display.

AFAIK, font/size is limited to bold/italic/underline. The only
place font is mentioned is in printer setup in the 400 page
manual. "Save as" options include text/works/printer.

Irene Moore & Tom Lohre wrote:

> Dear Group,
>        I am looking for Microsoft Works, the dos version, I think it is
> version 1.0. I have had my 200LX for not quite a year and now see that I
> have to do everything in DOS to get the best out of its versatility.
>         I could just about do everything I would like to do using this
> program. Am I on the right track?
>         Thanks, Tom Lohre
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Lately I have picked up some NiCads for $.30 to $.60 each.
Walmart, etc .... closeout tables. Look for battery packs
for
cordless phones. Many of them use AA size batteries. If you
are
an experimenter, you can leave them in the 3 or 5 packs. Or
take
them apart for use in HPs. etc....
I've gotten these:
  GE Sanyo - The positive electrode is raised as in a normal
AA.
                     And the cells themselves are taped
together so no
                      damaging the insulation on the side
when you split them.
  Energizer  -  700 mAh. The plus terminal is flush with the
top of
                     the cell. Works fine in my 100LX. But
my AA only
                     RS charger has recessed + terminal so
batteries can't
                     be charged backwards. Other gear
varies.
With the GE's, it was obvious thru the shrink plastic that
the plus
terminal was raised.

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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1998 13:15:23 -0700
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I haven't tried this, but maybe set up a macro that would open up WorldTime
the morning after daylight savings time changes, then set it up as a
recurring appointment for the last Sunday in October and the first Sunday
in April?

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Maybe we can exploit this for sending e-mail? (;-D)

At 09:20 09.04.98 -0600, you wrote:
>> ....  Seems to have started working right after I sent a message
>> to the guy that wrote it.  Strange.  :/
>
>I think he sends out an "enable/disable" message to each serial
>number LXGPS software program over the satellite's signal, using
>the spare bits in the navigation message.   |8-)
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I know this is off the subject a bit, but has anyone had any luck with
running the Accton 2216 ethernet card on an HP Omnibook 425?

If so contact me directly.

karl

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Ideally, you want NiCads with the highest mA rating possible. My experience
is that Panasonic 1100mA rated batteries are the best. They are avbl @
Price-Costco for $14.95 for 4 batteries and a charger.
>
Radio Shack also sells NiMh batteries for $9.95/pair that are rated @
1200mA.
>
Another good source is 1.800.BATTERIES.
>
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Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 13:03
Subject: Source for cheap NiCads


>Lately I have picked up some NiCads for $.30 to $.60 each.
>Walmart, etc .... closeout tables. Look for battery packs
>for
>cordless phones. Many of them use AA size batteries. If you
>are
>an experimenter, you can leave them in the 3 or 5 packs. Or
>take
>them apart for use in HPs. etc....
>I've gotten these:
>  GE Sanyo - The positive electrode is raised as in a normal
>AA.
>                     And the cells themselves are taped
>together so no
>                      damaging the insulation on the side
>when you split them.
>  Energizer  -  700 mAh. The plus terminal is flush with the
>top of
>                     the cell. Works fine in my 100LX. But
>my AA only
>                     RS charger has recessed + terminal so
>batteries can't
>                     be charged backwards. Other gear
>varies.
>With the GE's, it was obvious thru the shrink plastic that
>the plus
>terminal was raised.
>
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*** Seiko Instruments says to sell first wristwatch PC

Seiko Instruments Inc. said Wednesday it would begin selling
wristwatch personal computers in Japan on June 10 - the world's first
wearable PC. A company statement said the new watch, called the
Ruputer, can download data that includes text and pictures from other
personal computers. The wristwatch PCs will be sold with three
software applications that run on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows 95
operating system, it said. Watches come equipped with a 16-bit
central processing unit and 128 kilobytes of main memory, it said.
See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2553665778-582




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You are right. Here in Atlanta, it was pretty bad last night!  But in northern parts of Alabama all hell broke loose. Jefferson county, where Jeff Johns lives was hit hard!!! I hope he is ok, as well as Mack!

Many dead, houses vanished...

If somebody has more info about Mack and Jeff, please post it to the list. I guess he will be very busy next couple of days since he's with Sheriff's Dept.

Nedim.

At 09:53 AM 4/9/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Heard that some twisters ripped up Alabama several other states pretty
>badly. Sounds like it happened near Mack Baggette's general area of the
>state.
>
>Anyone know if Mack and Jeff Johns were affected? I think Jeff lives not
>too far from Mack.
>
>- Longden

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> If somebody has more info about Mack and Jeff, please post it to the
> list. I guess he will be very busy next couple of days since he's with
> Sheriff's Dept.

I haven't heard back from Jeff, but I'm happy to report that Mack is okay.
He says they came pretty close, but they were protected by the hill they
live on.

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While attempting to load "BUDDY", I received a message to the effect that
the system was waiting for sysmgr, and locked up.

I was not able to turn the HPLX off, or reboot.  I removed the primary
battries, and reinstalled them, which resulted in a blank screen except for
a horizonal line across the top.  Unable to get rid of the line, or get
anything else, even after removing the primary battries again, I finally
(after much soul searching) removed both the primary and backup battery.
After reinstalling them, the HP seemed to work, except for the flash card.

Tis a 10M card by ACE Technologies, which I believe is not out of business.

I reinstalled my backed up files, still no flash card.  I then attempted to
reinstall the flash card files from disk, which didn't work, however, the
screen on the LX now seems to have shifted to the right, with something
like 1 1/2 letters on the right side of the display now appearing on the
left side.

Does anyone know what might have happened, and what corrective action can
be taken?

Should it be of importance, I had the unit upgraded to double speed/8M 6
months ago.

Thanks

S. Lansing Williams
10120 Hellingly Place
Gaithersburg, Maryland 20879
301-926-9089

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Wow. Windows 95 in 128KB of RAM? I wonder if this is a mistake
and it is supposed to be WinCE. If it is WIn95, I wonder if there
will be a 'boot to DOS" mode so we can all replace
our HP200s, ha. Was this an April 1 posting?
-Bryan



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> *** Seiko Instruments says to sell first wristwatch PC
>

deleto

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Hi all and thanks for the concern!!! Yes the tornados did hit about 20
miles from here where Mack & I live. It happened in Jefferson County
where I work. The first struck at about 7:00PM last night, when I arrived
on scene we had two more come through. I have to admit that I was scared
to death but so much was going on that I didn't have time to think about
it. The loss of life and property is unbelievable. The pictures you are
seeing on TV don't even start to show how bad it is. I spent the day
escorting a CNN crew (I hate the media). It's amazing how fast this thing
struck, in areas the path is about 3/4 miles wide. I'm still in shock and
quite sleepy as I haven't slept in 24hrs and have to grab a few hours
then report back in the morning, I'll keep everyone posted. Once again,
thanks to everyone for the concern!!!

Jeff



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       |Jeff Johns   Reserve Captain  Jefferson County Sheriff's Dept|
       |   Amateur Radio: KF4KGQ           Birmingham, Alabama USA   |
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, my 200LX was with me in the patrol car and
did survive 3 tornados in a row =)

Jeff


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d you try a hard reset. control + shift + on keys?

S. Lansing Williams wrote:

> While attempting to load "BUDDY", I received a message to the effect that
> the system was waiting for sysmgr, and locked up.
>
> I was not able to turn the HPLX off, or reboot.  I removed the primary
> battries, and reinstalled them, which resulted in a blank screen except for
> a horizonal line across the top.  Unable to get rid of the line, or get
> anything else, even after removing the primary battries again, I finally
> (after much soul searching) removed both the primary and backup battery.
> After reinstalling them, the HP seemed to work, except for the flash card.
>
> Tis a 10M card by ACE Technologies, which I believe is not out of business.
>
> I reinstalled my backed up files, still no flash card.  I then attempted to
> reinstall the flash card files from disk, which didn't work, however, the
> screen on the LX now seems to have shifted to the right, with something
> like 1 1/2 letters on the right side of the display now appearing on the
> left side.
>
> Does anyone know what might have happened, and what corrective action can
> be taken?
>
> Should it be of importance, I had the unit upgraded to double speed/8M 6
> months ago.
>
> Thanks
>
> S. Lansing Williams
> 10120 Hellingly Place
> Gaithersburg, Maryland 20879
> 301-926-9089
>
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To:  S. Lansing Williams,

1.   It is never necessary to remove the batteries to cure a system stoppage.
The key combination {CTRL} {left shift} <i.e., the bottom left hand button>
{ON} will do as well as removing the batteries, and still allow you the option
of keeping the data in the C: drive.

2.  Your Ace card requires a driver.  When you bought the card, the
instructions told you how to install it.  Whatever it said, do it again.  That
info was deleted from your config.sys when you pulled the batteries.

3.  It appears that you acquired & installed the Ace card after your upgrade.
The upgrade also requires special drivers, which you evidently re-installed
after restoring the C: drive.

Good luck.  If I can offer anything else, pls e-mail direct.  I can supply the
Ace drivers, if you do not have them.  I'm not sure I can adequitely advise
how to install them.

lynn m. cavendish

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> Is there an option you can select on the HP200LX to have it
> automatically change the time for daylight savings? I looked but
> couldn't find anything.
> --
> Tom Lange

Below is a file to adjust daylight saving for Europe and Australia, I =
don't recall all the details of it, cause I got it a while ago, but I =
think it has to live in C:\_DAT\ also you can manualy turn daylight =
saving on and off in each city (I have Greenwich set to of so it functions=
 as UTC). Hope this helps,
Kind regards,
David

Timezone.dat

European
3:25-31  6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Northern
4:1-7    6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Southern
3:1-7    6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00

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Just a note on the male-male connector for GPS receivers.
If you are using a Tripmate, it looks for a signal on pin#4 before it will
start to send.  On each connector, you need to connect pin#6 from one male
DB9 connector to pin#4 of the other male DB9.    So you end up with pin#4
connected to pin#6 on each connector.
Rgds.....Jim Johnson
Carmel, IN





jviehweg@LUCENT.COM on 04/09/98 09:12:17 AM

Please respond to HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu; Please respond to
      jviehweg@LUCENT.COM

To:   HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu
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Subject:  Re: Best GPS/software for HP200...last!




On Wed, Apr 08, 1998 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 1998 at 09:30:31PM -0500, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 04, 1998 at 11:49:21AM -0600, Jaime Viehweg wrote:
> > ÝI had a bunch of questions about what to buy and where here¨
> ÝAnd then I had trouble getting LXGPS to work¨
Ok.  You all can relax now!  I have LXGPS working.  I am not really sure
what I did different this particular attempt out of 1,000 but it is
happy now.  Seems to have started working right after I sent a message
to the guy that wrote it.  Strange.  :/
So that this message isn't totally bogus, here is how I constructed my
"cable".
Standard HP cable (10 pin whatever to 9 pin female D) with HP male gender
changer attached (need pins, not holes!).  I have three 12" long jumpers
that are probably for some sort of test equipment that have a socket just
right for serial pins that I attach as follows:
GPSIII    -            male 9pin
          .            2 (RD)
     R  .   .  T       3 (TD)
          .            5 (GND)
          +
'R' to 3, 'T' to 2, and '-' to 5.
I don't know how well this will work if you use '-' and '+' for powering
the GPS.  I also don't know if this is the same on any other Garmin unit.
If you blow up your expensive toy, don't blame me!
Thanks again to those that helped me out with this.
jaime
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I think the cool thing here is the potential market for games like
tamagotchi... the wrist PC just needs to be much cheaper...


> Wow. Windows 95 in 128KB of RAM?
The applications run in W95 - probably to allow downloading etc

        The wristwatch PCs will be sold with three software
        applications that run on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows 95 operating
        system, it said.

> David Kramer wrote:
>
> > *** Seiko Instruments says to sell first wristwatch PC

http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2553665778-582


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Er, I remember someone pointing out that D&A's "HV" stands for
Html Viewer, not Hypertext Viewer. I think I've found a source of this
confusion on the SUPER site:

        HV (73 K) added 03/06/97
        Version 2.0e by Andreas Garzotto
        Screen Capture
        D&A Software's freeware hypertext viewer. Copyrighted freeware.
                                ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬


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S. Lansing Williams wrote:

> While attempting to load "BUDDY", I received a message to the effect that
> the system was waiting for sysmgr, and locked up.
>
> Tis a 10M card by ACE Technologies, which I believe is now out of business.

I have a 200LX with 10M card by ACE with Battman and Magnify.  The following
is the way my Autoexec.bat is written.

@echo off
prompt $p$g
path=C:\;D:\;D:\DOS;D:\BIN;A:\;A:\ACE
A:\ACE\BATTMAN.EXE
A:\ACE\MAGNIFY
C:\ntkey2lx.com
BUDDY.COM
200

Hope this is helpful.

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Guys I have a question. My comapny has been offered the
opportunity to coinvest in a new type of battery. I will be
available in AA and AAA as well as in packs for most of the cell
phones paticularly the StarTac series. Cost is going to be
equivalent to full retail on Lithiums today, or about $15.00 for
4. Now get this, we are talking about 20,000 miAmp/hr or more.

Besides the technology issues, I am looking for help on the sort
of questions I should be asking about internal resistance, case
design, shelf life, discharge rates.

Anyone able to help?

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On palmtop.net, there is a mention of the American Heritage Dictionary,
Plus Definitions, sized around 2.5MB by WordScience Corp.

Has anyone used that, got it to install on the 200LX properly?

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Hi

Regarding to the new toy topic, after that I try to find more info.
Then I think this watch is take the concept of Pilot and the wish list
from many people who want the watch which can do more than databank.
If you want to see more info please go

http://www.ruputer.com/

All are in Japanese, but you can see many picture and screen sanp short
on this page. I may buy one.

:)

Fong

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for more info:
http://www.seiko.com/Ruputer.html
looks interesting alright...
.M
> ----------
> From:         David KramerÝSMTP:Dskramer@CONCENTRIC.NET¨
> Sent:         Thursday, April 09, 1998 2:25 PM
> Subject:      New toy!
>
> *** Seiko Instruments says to sell first wristwatch PC
>
> Seiko Instruments Inc. said Wednesday it would begin selling
> wristwatch personal computers in Japan on June 10 - the world's first
> wearable PC. A company statement said the new watch, called the
> Ruputer, can download data that includes text and pictures from other
> personal computers. The wristwatch PCs will be sold with three
> software applications that run on Microsoft Corp.'s Windows 95
> operating system, it said. Watches come equipped with a 16-bit
> central processing unit and 128 kilobytes of main memory, it said.
> See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2553665778-582
>
>
>
>
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Brendan,

> Er, I remember someone pointing out that D&A's "HV" stands for
> Html Viewer, not Hypertext Viewer.

I did.

> I think I've found a source of this confusion on the SUPER site:
>
>         HV (73 K) added 03/06/97
>         Version 2.0e by Andreas Garzotto
>         Screen Capture
>         D&A Software's freeware hypertext viewer. Copyrighted freeware.
>                                 ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

I know! I asked for the correction a long long time ago, then
again. So far, no repair. Others have picked up the same
faulty description. Oh well... In truth WWW Documents are a
"world wide hypertext" if you want to be really nitpickingly
technical about it, but that was not offered as the
explanation when I wrote. The misleading part about it is that
the hypertext to be viewed must be coded using HTML tags, not
just any hypertext file encoding.

Well, enough <sigh>... I sigh because of the constant
irritation the the SUPER page, which serves the palmtop
community so well is partially "hostile" to the premier
browser for Palmtops!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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In message "Re: Source for cheap NiCads"
    on 98/04/09, "Bernard A. Torbik" <btorbik@EARTHLINK.NET> writes:
>Ideally, you want NiCads with the highest mA rating possible. My experience
>is that Panasonic 1100mA rated batteries are the best. They are avbl @
>Price-Costco for $14.95 for 4 batteries and a charger.

In Japan we can avail 1400mAh NiH AA from Panasonic and sanyo.

ken

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I have not used that particular DOS Dictionary but I'm sure it would =
work fine.
I use the Standard American Heritage Dictionary (Includes Roget"s =
Thesaurus)  Third Edition on a flash card. It has more than 100,000 =
words and it takes up 5Meg on my 10meg Sandisk flash card. It was =
marketed by Wordstar and sold by Softkey a few years ago. It works on =
the HP100/200LX. It requires Maxdos to run from Sysmgr. I think the =
major problem you will find is finding a DOS version of any dictionary. =
Good luck in the hunt.

Rodger

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On palmtop.net, there is a mention of the American Heritage Dictionary,
Plus Definitions, sized around 2.5MB by WordScience Corp.

Has anyone used that, got it to install on the 200LX properly?

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Daylight saving adjustments are made from a file called TIMEZONE,DAT which normally resides in the SYS directory on the D drive of the HP. Since this is ROM it cannot be changed, but if you put a copy of this file in the C:\_DAT directory you can edit and add to it.  The new file in the C:\_DAT directory will
then take precedence over the one in the D:\SYS directory.  You can create as many different daylight saving zones as you want and each new entry ( in TIMEZONE.DAT) will show up in the Daylight Saving box for each city entry in World Time and can be implemented by selecting the Automatic option and the zone
The key to the file is
The first line contains the name of the time zone e.g.  Central or Australia etc.
The second line contains four pieces of information;
1- the month daylight saving starts (or ends on the Southern Hemisphere)
2- the range of dates in the month that it starts,
3 - the day of the week that it starts ( 6 = sunday )
4- the amount of time in hours and minutes added to the system clock.
e.g. if daylight saving started in the first Saturday in Feb. and 1  hour was added to the clock then the first line would read
2:1-7 5 1:00
The second line follows the same logic as the first and it sets the end date for daylight saving, and to return to the correct time zero hours are added to the system clock.
The protocol for the data is the month and days are separated by a colon and the date range is separated by a dash ( minus sign) and the other two entries are separated by spaces
The following file is from my computer and should be self explanatory, the only point to remember is that the dates in the file should be in chronological order so for the Southern Hemisphere the finish date is the first entry in the file and the start  date is second entry.

European
3:25-31 6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Northern
4:1-7 6 1:00
10:25-31 6 0:00
Southern
3:1-7 6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00
Australia
3:25-31 6 0:00
10:25-31 6 1:00

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Just found this post fo anybody who's looking for a 200LX.

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Duranceau, David" <duranceaud@wdni.com>
Subject: fs: HP LX200
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 20:57:32 -0700

I have a HP LX200 Palmtop for sale.  I have only used it twice and it has
not left my desk drawer since.  I purchased the Connectivity Kit but =
cannot
find the disks--I do have the serial cable and manuals for the Palmtop
itself.  It is in excellent condition.  I'm asking $220.00 or best offer =
+
shipping.

Please email me at duranceaud@wdni.com.




--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

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Ýhp¨ 100LX: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.

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Many thanks for the response, I have given some more details in an
earlier response. I believe that toxicity is minimal, as the basic
constituants are already in use for batteries and have not been
condemned to special treatment the way the NiCd has. Value is in
the eye of the beholder notwithstanding logic. Many feel that no
matter what the hourly cost might be, they would prefer not to
shell out $$$ of a given quantity. Sort of why a German taxi
driver buys a Merc and drives it for 1 million miles or more while
a US iron has to be replaced at 300K. The Merc has a lower cost
per mile, but that wont permit the initial lay out!

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Thanks for your interest. They are disposable batteries. The idea
is to target the OEM suppliers in the cellular PDA and security
markets initially. Apparently the military is a very large buyer
of cells for comms and processor back up purposes. They have done
some testing (which I have not seen) which validates the long
shelf life and duty life. We might be talking about $2.00 per AA
cell to start with, but a HP life of 100 hours + with regular non
modem use.

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I just received back my upgraded 32meg, doublespeed. The ctrl key however
doesn't work. I tried to edit my autoexec to load buddy and reboot and can't
CTRL-ALT-DEL and can't Shift-CTRL-ON either. I have narrowed it down to the
CTRL key. Any suggestions while I wait to hear from Thaddeus?

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My hinges are getting too loose. Is there anything i can do to tighten it?

Thanks in advance

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 > opportunity to coinvest in a new type of battery...
 > ...we are talking about 20,000 miAmp/hr or more.

 > Besides the technology issues, I am looking for help on the sort
 > of questions I should be asking about internal resistance, case
 > design, shelf life, discharge rates.
 >
 > Anyone able to help?

Ask for their 800 order line.  Then tell the rest of us. <g>

Seriously, are these rechargeable?  Single Use?  Can we order them yet?

What's 20,000mAh to a Li battery?  About ten times the energy?  Sounds
wonderful.


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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1998 19:20:58 -0400
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I've been working on the new low power card that Shier Systems
sells ( the PCMCIA 10 baseT card ) and I'm running into problems.

I load the driver, and am able to get link and perform diagnostics,
but I'm having the devil's own time in getting network configuration
to work.

I realize this might have been covered, but I'm assuming some
kind soul might have a copy of a net.cfg that I can shamelessly
steal to see what I'm doing wrong.

I'm currently leaning to the free telnet client from NSCA, along
with an ftp client, and elm port as my primary means of staying
in touch.

Thanks a great deal. I'll summarize answers.


                                                --wayne -

SHAMELESS PLUG: HP200LX just simply rules. With a speed and memory
                upgrade, a network card, and a keyboard, this is a
                machine which is perfectly useful as a productivity
                station.



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I've got another Kodak DC20 for sale on eBay.  If interested, the link to
it is on my home page.

--
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    - checkout HisWord(tm) Palmtop Bible at the above URL -
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1998 16:23:13 -0400
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Comments: To: support@sdl.continet.com

I have been evaluating the GP beta, and want to start off by congratulating
you on a great program.  It's compact, fast, easy to set up and use, and
works great overall.

However, I'm having one problem:  the SMTP portion of the program only seems
to communicate with hosts running sendmail.  I've played around a bit, and
have confirmed that I cannot send via hosts running QMail (a more secure
alternative to sendmail) or Innosoft's PMDF (which is probably the most
common SMTP implementation on VMS hosts).  I have heard of other mailers
having similiar problems, and I think it had something to do with the string
used to end the message.  If memory serves sendmail used a loose
interpretation of the RFC while PMDF and QMail insist on the correct use of
the CR and LF characters with the "." at the end of the DATA phase.  That's
just a guess, though.  If you like, I can try to slow down my connection to
the point that I can watch the transfer fail and let you know what I see.

However, if this is a problem you already know about, I won6t bother trying
to copy it all down.  Let me know either way.  If that problem is fixed in
the final release, you can bet I'll be regisering...

Thanks.

- Tom (who is getting pretty good at typing on this keyboard... :) )


Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.04beta) EVALUATION

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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1998 15:07:42 -0700
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Actually 2 of them for my 100LX on the side of the PCMCICA slot.
I do not know when they left, so I do not know what they look like.
If any one knows of the length, diameter and threads per inch\mm or
source please let me know.
The little skid plugs would be nice too.
Thanks to one and to all.
Steven

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:14:55 +1200
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From: Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@ix.netcom.com>
To: katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ
Subject: Re:      Re: maximum number of applications in SysMgr
Date: Saturday, 11 April 1998 22:43

Could you send me a copy of QuikMenu (that is, if it is not too
big and you decide NOT to post it to S.U.P.E.R.)?

i sent it to Mitch at super weeks ago, but have not had confrimation
and have not seen it up yet...

Maybe we could both email him about the situation & see what the
story is?

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Today I found a copy of the Norton Utilities Advanced Edition Version 4.5,
still shrink wrapped for $10.00.  It includes the normal manual plus a booklet
called "The Norton Disk Companion" and a book called "The Norton Trouble
Shooter."

Of course, it has all the unerase, batch file enhancer, speed disk, file find
and other utilities that made Norton invaluable in the days of DOS.

The reason I mention it, is that there were at least 2 more copies at this
used Hardware and Software store in Northern Virginia.  The store is Practical
Computers. tel: 703-321-3003  e-mail: pcitech@erols.com.

In the past, they have told me that they are willing to mail software.  I
don't know what the terms would be.

Just passing it along.

lynn m. cavendish
           Team MB260LX

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 01:01:02 -0300
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Dear friends:
In your opinion what's bad about the 620LX.
Is it possible to run DOS applications?
My 200LX had the LCD damaged due to a fall. If I'm going to had it
fixed, I also would do some upgrade, that means, I will spend some
money. So where should I spend it?
Thank you so much,
Nelson

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Nelson,

    Send it to Mack at Times2 and get the 32 meg, double speed upgrade
along with the LCD replacement.  I doub't that it will cost you more
than a new 620LX and you will have a far superior machine.  In the
future,the 620 may be able to run DOS at half of the stock 200LX's
speed.  DOS really cooks on Mack's latest creation.

Colin

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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1998 21:56:44 -0700
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Colin:
>
>... and you will have a far superior machine.
>
With all due respect, that is strictly a matter of opinion, which many of us
would not share.
>
>In the future,the 620 may be able to run DOS at half of >the stock 200LX's
speed.
>
I believe the XT-CE cite states that it will run DOS app's at the equivalent
of 6MHz on the 620. Isn't the "stock" 200LX running at ~ 7 - 8 MHz. If so,
that's pretty close to the real thing, and way better than half. BTW, the
new 100MHz SH-3 processor will better the performance of the "stock" 200LX.
>
Bernie Torbik

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Nelson,
I purchased a Cassiopeia almost a year ago now. The screen was poor. It could
not print files, even after I bought aftermarket software and a serial-
parallel adapter. It was larger than the 200lx.

I was thoroughly dismayed. I tried to sell it with no luck. I finally got an
offer to trade it for a 200lx. I was hesitant at first, but I never wanted to
see the Casio again. I traded, and I have been so happy.

The 200lx is as small as anything this powerful could practically be. I am not
a touch typist, so I am not upset about the tiny keys. I can even use the
serial-parallel adapter I bought to print from my lx.

You may have different need than I, but at least try one out before you
purchase. Be conscious of the shortcomings and make an intelligent decision.

<Now climbing down from soapbox>
<Soapbox safely put away>

I looked at a 620lx at a local store yesterday. The screen was better, but it
is considerably larger than my 200lx. It is scant smaller than my Pentium
Libretto which has a real VGA screen, 810meg HDD, real Windows, and the
ability to print whatever I want. I gave $799 for my Libretto <refurbished>
which is $100 less than the price on the 620lx. New Libretto 50CTs are
available via mail order for the same price as the 620lx I looked at.

Thanks,
Dennis

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 07:26:32 -0500
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Bernard A. Torbik wrote:
>
> Colin:
> >
> >... and you will have a far superior machine.
> >
> With all due respect, that is strictly a matter of opinion, which many of us
> would not share.
Hmmm... your obvoiusly from the other side of the fence :)
> >In the future,the 620 may be able to run DOS at half of >the stock 200LX's
> speed.
> >
> I believe the XT-CE cite states that it will run DOS app's at the equivalent
> of 6MHz on the 620. Isn't the "stock" 200LX running at ~ 7 - 8 MHz. no, the "stock" 200lx runs at 14 MHz.

>BTW the new 100MHz SH-3 processor will better the performance of the >"stock" 200LX.
Who in ther right mind would put a 100MHz cpu in a palmtop, look what
happend to the apple newton when they tried to do that. The price went
up and people left. If you need 100MHz just to emulate dos at 14MHz, you
realy need a better os.

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 09:18:19 -0400
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These new batteries are based on a proprietary technology which is
already in use but could not be incorporated in AA and AAA cells
economically until recently, and then, as often happens, by
accident. THEY ARE NOT YET IN PRODUCTION, so dont dream about 800
and here is my Visa#. They are disposable non toxic units and will
sell for about $20.00 in packs of 4.

So my question still remains: if you could get 100 hours of
regular use, or say 30 hours of use with an EXP modem from time to
time, would you pay $20. If not what would you pay?

Dont be shy.

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 21:53:55 +0800
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Hi there!

This is to good to be true!!? Anyway, you said $20.00 for a pack of 4, so
if I for $10 I can run my HP 200LX for 100 hours- SURE I pay $20 for a pack
of 4!!!

Jorgen W.

>These new batteries are based on a proprietary technology which is
>already in use but could not be incorporated in AA and AAA cells
>economically until recently, and then, as often happens, by
>accident. THEY ARE NOT YET IN PRODUCTION, so dont dream about 800
>and here is my Visa#. They are disposable non toxic units and will
>sell for about $20.00 in packs of 4.
>
>So my question still remains: if you could get 100 hours of
>regular use, or say 30 hours of use with an EXP modem from time to
>time, would you pay $20. If not what would you pay?
>
>Dont be shy.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:21:46 -0400
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              "Michael D. Stocker" <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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If this means 200 operating hours (2 pairs at 100 hrs each) for $20, yes.  This
equates to 10 hrs/$.

I figure that a pair of lithiums get 40 hours for $5 or 8 hrs/$.

Of course, their shelf life and ability to handle low temperatures are also
issues.

Michael D. Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: New Battery type
| Date: Sunday, April 12, 1998 9:18 AM
|
| These new batteries are based on a proprietary technology which is
| already in use but could not be incorporated in AA and AAA cells
| economically until recently, and then, as often happens, by
| accident. THEY ARE NOT YET IN PRODUCTION, so dont dream about 800
| and here is my Visa#. They are disposable non toxic units and will
| sell for about $20.00 in packs of 4.
|
| So my question still remains: if you could get 100 hours of
| regular use, or say 30 hours of use with an EXP modem from time to
| time, would you pay $20. If not what would you pay?
|
| Dont be shy.
|
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 20:50:24 +0200
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Two questions:
1) I lost data abain due to lack of  backup of my 200LX-PCMCIA Card. If
I had a PCMCIA Card Reader for my desktop this would not happen (as
frequently). I would appreciate advice which brand to buy. It should be
an internal one but one that does not need a slot as these are occupied.
I have got infront of me the One-Stop Palmtop shop catalogue that
advertises Steel Creek internal PCMCIA Card Drive for $189.95.
Does anyone have experience with this type ? Thanks in Advance
Winfried Zettelmeyer

2) Does Flash Card capacity have to do with battery consumption ?
With a HP 5MB Flash Card (Order No. F1012A) 2 alcalines endure 30-35
hours of use. After changing to a 40MB Magic Ram Card battery life
plummeted to 10hours. If battery life is all-important, should one use
small capacity flash cards, or what is the reason for the increased
consumption ?

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:23:32 -0400
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Hi all -

Just came back from the UK flying into and out of Heathrow Terminal 4.

I discovered that within the secured area, in the area of the duty free
shops, there are 1 or 2 phones which accept a modem plug, either UK
standard or RJ11, for sending email, etc.

These phones do not allow coin, or calling card type dialling, just
credit card calls.

Using cc:Mail, a 31 second call cost me 2.80UK pounds!  However, it was
nice to find a pay phone that I could use for this purpose.

Cheers


Brian Girling
Group Sales
Great Canadian Holidays Inc.
Our Web Site: http://home.ica.net/~girling/ventures/

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:29:55 -0400
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While out of the country I was using cc:Mail and the palmtop.com access
with my HP200lx.

I found the cc:Mail function to be a bit odd as an email received
created 2, 3 or 4 attachment files that were stored on my A: drive card.

There were so many files created that I decided to make some room by
zipping the .msg and .att files.

Now that I am home and want to answer or transfer some these message
files to my desktop computer, I have discovered that, although I have
unzipped all the files, the message indexing in cc:Mail no longer
recognizes these saved files.

Is there an .ini or other file that I can edit so that the saved files
will appear in cc:Mail again?


Brian

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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1998 17:11:32 -0700
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Hi, Winfried:
>
I recommend that you get a PC Card reader that is "Plug'n'Pray" and
supported by Win 3.x/95/98/NT. The best one in my opinion is the Simple
Technologies "Simple Station" that we sell for $134. Installation takes
about 5 minutes and is supported in NT4.0.
>
There are many varieties of flash cards and some are much more power
efficient than others. Magic Ram and SanDisk mfr relatively inefficient
cards, compared to Viking, Kingston and SanDisk. Power consumption in sleep
mode is higher, and write/erase times are about 2x those of Viking, etc.
This will have a direct effect on battery life because of the time req'd to
read and write a file to disk. There is no direct correlation between card
size and power consumption; instead, look at continuous transfer speeds,
controller power requirements and type of chips used, i.e, 32, 64 or
256Mbit.
>
FYI, we also sell Kingston, Simple and Viking cards in various capacities.
If you're interested, please email me for further details.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.
Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017

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Subject: PCMCIA Card Reader for Desktop


Two questions:
1) I lost data abain due to lack of  backup of my 200LX-PCMCIA Card. If
I had a PCMCIA Card Reader for my desktop this would not happen (as
frequently). I would appreciate advice which brand to buy. It should be
an internal one but one that does not need a slot as these are occupied.
I have got infront of me the One-Stop Palmtop shop catalogue that
advertises Steel Creek internal PCMCIA Card Drive for $189.95.
Does anyone have experience with this type ? Thanks in Advance
Winfried Zettelmeyer

2) Does Flash Card capacity have to do with battery consumption ?
With a HP 5MB Flash Card (Order No. F1012A) 2 alcalines endure 30-35
hours of use. After changing to a 40MB Magic Ram Card battery life
plummeted to 10hours. If battery life is all-important, should one use
small capacity flash cards, or what is the reason for the increased
consumption ?

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:53:01 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: HV: hypertext viewer
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              98 01:27:38 pm
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> > D&A's "HV" stands for Html Viewer, not Hypertext Viewer.

> > a source of confusion on the SUPER site:
> >         D&A Software's freeware hypertext viewer. Copyrighted freeware.
> >                                 ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬

> The misleading part about it is that
> the hypertext to be viewed must be coded using HTML tags, not
> just any hypertext file encoding.

But I think html has pretty much vaquished all competing hypertext markup
languages, so it may no longer be misleading to most people... I, for
example, couldn't name one other hypertext language (except the crazy
descendents of html)

HTML has dominated so much that it has *become* the generic!


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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:08:35 +1000
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Wondering whether anyone knows if it is possible to import database
files in cdf (comma delimited) or other standard format to Agenda.
There is a utility (txt2stf) but it looks very complicated.  Any help
would be appreciated.

thanks
Andrew

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:54:35 -0400
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Thought this might be of interest to those looking to run UNIX on a
palmtop!


Lincoln Stoll wrote:
>
> Hi all. i though id just send this message to let all of you know that ELKS
> will run on a palmtop, sortof anyway. last night i downloaded a XT emulator
> for windows CE, which is designed for running DOS. i thought it would be
> interesting to have it running elks, so i made a elks combined root/boot
> disk and used the supplied tool to make the disk ready for XTCE. It didnt
> work. not being discouraged, i just copied the disk image across and it
> worked!! the performance is reasonable, and it is sort of useful to toy
> with and as a novelty.Since i got this working, i thought it would be
> useful to use it as a ELKS development tool, since it is always with me.
> but i came across a hurdle. even though i run dos and bcc is on it, i cant
> get the programs to ELKS!!! so i was wondering if anyone has tried
> compiling/porting bcc into elks?? if not i could give it a go, coz it would
> be very useful. and all that fiddling about bought me to another problem:
> vi is very broken. i cant get it to do anything. oh well, thats enoght
> rambling from me for one night.
>
> Lincoln Stoll

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:01:26 -0400
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Andrew,

You might want to consider joining the PIMlist to address questions about
Agenda.  This list deals specifically with personal information management and
includes many Agenda users who are not on the HPLX list.  Go to the following
site for more info:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/list.htm

To answer your question -- Agenda can import text files directly, using F10
F(ile) T(ransfer) I(mport).  A dialog box will open giving you options.  The
imported file will be saved as transfer.stf in whatever Agenda directory you
have open.  However, the txt2stf utility will give you greater capabilities to
define how the text file will be imported.

Michael D. Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm

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|
| Wondering whether anyone knows if it is possible to import database
| files in cdf (comma delimited) or other standard format to Agenda.
| There is a utility (txt2stf) but it looks very complicated.  Any help
| would be appreciated.
|
(snip)

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:00:31 -0400
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>From:    colin cohen <102621.2256@COMPUSERVE.COM>
>So my question still remains: if you could get 100 hours of
>regular use, or say 30 hours of use with an EXP modem from time to
>time, would you pay $20. If not what would you pay?

I am currently getting 4 MONTHS out of a pair of Everyready Lithiums an=
d they
(only?)
cost @$5.75 a pair.  (I don't do any modem or COM1 or IR work on batter=
ies and
I plug
the AC adapter in while I'm at work.)  If a replacement battery that of=
fered
significant life
over the Lithiums became available I would probably try at least one se=
t just
out of curiosity.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:25:38 +0200
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Thanks for the quick reply.

My first question is, what do you have to pray for after plugging ?
I am rather afraid now of adding hardware after having read those IOMEGA
stories (www.konnections.com/jester/iozip.htm). i.e., is this drive really
realible ?

Second: I would like to have an internal drive, though it must not take up a
slot as I have occupied them all (there are only 3 of them). Steele Creek
claims to fit their drive into a PC Floppy bay, of which I have 2 left. That
would be fine. So, where is the Simple Station drive fitted ?

Third: I do not understand the relative importance of continous transfer rate
and type of chips used for flash card power requirements. What I am looking for
is the card with the least power consumption, even if it takes a bit longer in
reading or writing. Can you recommend me a card and give me an idea about
prices and card storage capacity ?

Thank you very much !
Winfried Zettelmeyer
Alhaurin el Grande/Malaga, Spain


Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Hi, Winfried:
> >
> I recommend that you get a PC Card reader that is "Plug'n'Pray" and
> supported by Win 3.x/95/98/NT. The best one in my opinion is the Simple
> Technologies "Simple Station" that we sell for $134. Installation takes
> about 5 minutes and is supported in NT4.0.
> >
> There are many varieties of flash cards and some are much more power
> efficient than others. Magic Ram and SanDisk mfr relatively inefficient
> cards, compared to Viking, Kingston and SanDisk. Power consumption in sleep
> mode is higher, and write/erase times are about 2x those of Viking, etc.
> This will have a direct effect on battery life because of the time req'd to
> read and write a file to disk. There is no direct correlation between card
> size and power consumption; instead, look at continuous transfer speeds,
> controller power requirements and type of chips used, i.e, 32, 64 or
> 256Mbit.
> >
> FYI, we also sell Kingston, Simple and Viking cards in various capacities.
> If you're interested, please email me for further details.
> >
> Bernie Torbik
> Shore Systems Ltd.
> Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Winfried Zettelmeyer
> Sent: 12 April, 1998 11:50
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: PCMCIA Card Reader for Desktop
>
> Two questions:
> 1) I lost data abain due to lack of  backup of my 200LX-PCMCIA Card. If
> I had a PCMCIA Card Reader for my desktop this would not happen (as
> frequently). I would appreciate advice which brand to buy. It should be
> an internal one but one that does not need a slot as these are occupied.
> I have got infront of me the One-Stop Palmtop shop catalogue that
> advertises Steel Creek internal PCMCIA Card Drive for $189.95.
> Does anyone have experience with this type ? Thanks in Advance
> Winfried Zettelmeyer
>
> 2) Does Flash Card capacity have to do with battery consumption ?
> With a HP 5MB Flash Card (Order No. F1012A) 2 alcalines endure 30-35
> hours of use. After changing to a 40MB Magic Ram Card battery life
> plummeted to 10hours. If battery life is all-important, should one use
> small capacity flash cards, or what is the reason for the increased
> consumption ?
>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 15:11:14 +0100
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Hi :-)

I am looking for Foxpro for DOPS for use wioth my HP200LX.

I live in the UK and would welcome any information on how to purchase
this.

Cheers
Ross
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 07:39:05 -0700
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Hi, Winfried:
>
"Plug'n'Pray" is a figure of speech. I've didn't have to pray when I
installed my Simple Station, but other devices haven't been so "simple". The
drive is VERY reliable.
>
The internal version of the drive fits in a 3.5" floppy drive bay (5" drive
bay adapter kit avbl for $19). Installation of an ISA card (included) is
necessary to complete the setup. There is an external version of the drive
available for $10 more.
>
We recommend dual voltage (3.3/5.0 volt) PC or CF Cards (with PC Card
adapter) mfrd by Viking, Simple and Kingston. Their power consumption is
roughly 40% less than SanDisk based on comparable specifications and their
transfer rates are nearly 60% faster. You DO want a card with fast transfer
rates as the longer the transfer takes, the more power is being used and
battery life lowered. The point is that Viking, Simple, etc. have managed -
by using a Lexar controller - to attain rapid transfer rates and low power
consumption.
>
We sell Viking/Simple CF cards with adapters for the following prices:
16MB/$125; 32MB/$220. Shipping is included in the prices. I will be in Italy
from 17-30Apr and can mail any items ordered from within the EU, which would
save you tax/duty.
>
Larger capacity cards are avbl in PC Card format as follows: 40MB/$275;
48MB/$299; 64MB/$399; 96MB/$499.
>
VISA/MC/AMEX accepted without surcharge.
>
Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
Bernie Torbik
Shore Systems Ltd.
Belmont Shore, CA 90803


-----Original Message-----
From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Ýmailto:wzettelmeyer@microcad.es¨
Sent: 13 April, 1998 06:26
To: HPLX Mailing List; Bernard A. Torbik
Subject: Re: PCMCIA Card Reader for Desktop


Thanks for the quick reply.

My first question is, what do you have to pray for after plugging ?
I am rather afraid now of adding hardware after having read those IOMEGA
stories (www.konnections.com/jester/iozip.htm). i.e., is this drive really
realible ?

Second: I would like to have an internal drive, though it must not take up a
slot as I have occupied them all (there are only 3 of them). Steele Creek
claims to fit their drive into a PC Floppy bay, of which I have 2 left. That
would be fine. So, where is the Simple Station drive fitted ?

Third: I do not understand the relative importance of continous transfer
rate
and type of chips used for flash card power requirements. What I am looking
for
is the card with the least power consumption, even if it takes a bit longer
in
reading or writing. Can you recommend me a card and give me an idea about
prices and card storage capacity ?

Thank you very much !
Winfried Zettelmeyer
Alhaurin el Grande/Malaga, Spain


Bernard A. Torbik wrote:

> Hi, Winfried:
> >
> I recommend that you get a PC Card reader that is "Plug'n'Pray" and
> supported by Win 3.x/95/98/NT. The best one in my opinion is the Simple
> Technologies "Simple Station" that we sell for $134. Installation takes
> about 5 minutes and is supported in NT4.0.
> >
> There are many varieties of flash cards and some are much more power
> efficient than others. Magic Ram and SanDisk mfr relatively inefficient
> cards, compared to Viking, Kingston and SanDisk. Power consumption in
sleep
> mode is higher, and write/erase times are about 2x those of Viking, etc.
> This will have a direct effect on battery life because of the time req'd
to
> read and write a file to disk. There is no direct correlation between card
> size and power consumption; instead, look at continuous transfer speeds,
> controller power requirements and type of chips used, i.e, 32, 64 or
> 256Mbit.
> >
> FYI, we also sell Kingston, Simple and Viking cards in various capacities.
> If you're interested, please email me for further details.
> >
> Bernie Torbik
> Shore Systems Ltd.
> Belmont Shore, CA 90803-3017
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Winfried Zettelmeyer
> Sent: 12 April, 1998 11:50
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: PCMCIA Card Reader for Desktop
>
> Two questions:
> 1) I lost data abain due to lack of  backup of my 200LX-PCMCIA Card. If
> I had a PCMCIA Card Reader for my desktop this would not happen (as
> frequently). I would appreciate advice which brand to buy. It should be
> an internal one but one that does not need a slot as these are occupied.
> I have got infront of me the One-Stop Palmtop shop catalogue that
> advertises Steel Creek internal PCMCIA Card Drive for $189.95.
> Does anyone have experience with this type ? Thanks in Advance
> Winfried Zettelmeyer
>
> 2) Does Flash Card capacity have to do with battery consumption ?
> With a HP 5MB Flash Card (Order No. F1012A) 2 alcalines endure 30-35
> hours of use. After changing to a 40MB Magic Ram Card battery life
> plummeted to 10hours. If battery life is all-important, should one use
> small capacity flash cards, or what is the reason for the increased
> consumption ?
>
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:53:00 -0300
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Subject:      Speed up!

Hi all!


If i remember well....there is a program for speed up the database
engine...or search ?


If it's shareware or freeware, can anybody email me a copy ?


Thanks!

Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar



Only Three things are certain...
Death, Taxes, And Data Lost...

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:03:54 -0600
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When I used my 200LX last night, I saw something strange. The time
had been reset to Jan 1980.  Seems like this is the power on time
after a hard reset.  I hadn't performed a hard reset recently,
although I did change the batteries on Thursday.   But I've never had
this happen before when I changed the batteries.

Has anyone else experienced time being reset?  Any ideas what caused
it?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:05:50 -0600
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There was a query awhile back on the status of the Drive 95 product.
If I recall this was a serial port floppy drive. Are these still
available? If not, does anyone have one for sale?

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 13:06:52 -0400
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              Irene Moore & Tom Lohre <moorei@EMAIL.UC.EDU>
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        I too experience time changes that do not make sense. I just reset
the time when I see it has changed.
        On another tack, I cannot seem to run transfer data at a greater
baud than 2400. Any help here?
        Thanks for your responce. This group is one of the best I have
experienced. Tom Lohre

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:23:41 -0700
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Chris Lott wrote:
>
> There was a query awhile back on the status of the Drive 95 product.
> If I recall this was a serial port floppy drive. Are these still
> available? If not, does anyone have one for sale?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
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Are you in CA?
I have a newer model call Drive1000 for sale.  No manual, no disk, no
driver.  I has internal batteries for portable use and a standard 9pin
RS232 port in the back.  No other info.

Also a standard 102 keys IBM compatible keyboard that works through any
standard 25pin parallel printer port.  $150.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 12:19:51 -0500
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              Ted Heise <theise@NETINS.NET>
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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Irene Moore & Tom Lohre wrote:

>         On another tack, I cannot seem to run transfer data at a greater
> baud than 2400. Any help here?


I don't know about your time question, but the 2400 rate is
the default in Datacomm.  If that's the application you're
using, have you tried going into the settings {Alt}{C}{S} and
selecting a higher value?

Ted Heise    <theise@netins.net>    West Lafayette, IN, USA

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Have you looked inside that keyboard and if so, how many wires does it
use to "talk" to the parrelel port?  Second question, what in the way of
drivers does that keyboard use/need?
Reason for all these questions;  could a standard keyboard be modified
to act like your parrelel port version.

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Here's an entirely new topic in keeping with the season: has anyone fou=
nd any
new Easter Eggs hidden in their 200LX, 100LX or 95LX?

(For the uninitiated, an "Easter Egg" is an unauthorised bit of program=
ming fun,
hidden in software by the developers. Easter Eggs usually are jokes, ri=
ddles,
cartoons, poems or a list of the developers' names.)

Some known HP-LX Easter Eggs are...

1. Lair of the Squid credits (200LX only):

Run Lair of the Squid. At the beginning of the game, you will see the f=
irst
walled corridor. Type GALLERY and you will see a new corridor. Pictures=
 of the
development team's faces line the walls ahead of you to the left and th=
e right.
To view the faces properly, move forward then turn to look directly at =
them. At
the fourth step forward and on your right is a plaque that reads:

     Very special thanks
     to all the people in HP
     and all the companies
     that made this palm-
     top possible.
         The Felix S/W Team

("Felix" was the developers' code name for the 200LX.) Go through the d=
oor to
start a normal Lair of the Squid game.

2. Self Test poems

(95LX, 100LX and 200LX):
When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
<CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <ENTER> 14 times to=
 step
through the test screens. You will see a poem that reads:

     There once was this thing from HP
     That fit in your pocket, you see.
     A caveman would stare
     And pull out his hair
     And wonder. "What could this thing be?"

Press <ENTER> until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your p=
almtop
will reboot.

(100LX and 200LX only):
When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
<CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <CTRL><ENTER> then
<ALT><ENTER> 13 times to step through the test screens. You will see a =
poem that
reads:

     Felis Concolor

     A funny thing happened on the way to the forum
     When I encountered a group in search of a quorum.
     They came from a city. The Burg On The Wire,
     If I tried To describe it you'd call me a liar.
     They wanted to charge me a really quite large fee
     For the dubious pleasure of sharing their treasure.
     "I'm a very Good man (Mark my words if you can),"
     "But, the Dickens, I say, I simply won't pay!"
     And with poetry, then, I proceeded to bore ?em
     Then preceded myself on my way to the Forum.

(My Latin is poor, but I interpret "Felis Concolor" as "Cat of the same=
 color".
Maybe this has something to do with the developers' code names for the =
LX
series. The rest of the poem is a mystery to me. Any guesses?) Press <E=
NTER>
until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your palmtop will re=
boot.

(200LX only):
When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
<CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <CTRL><ENTER> then
<SHIFT><ENTER> 13 times to step through the test screens. You will see =
a poem
that reads:

     Nine lives has a Cat, and each Cat a name.
     All of them different, none are the same.
     Jaguar was the first, it made quite a roar.
     Cougar was next, oh, how it did soar.
     Felix is third, my heart it does quicken,
     knows what comes next, the clock is a tickin'.

(Again, the developers' code names for the 95LX, 100LX and 200LX were "=
Jaguar",
"Cougar" and "Felix", so this poem is rather easy to understand.) Press=
 <ENTER>
until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your palmtop will re=
boot.

3. System Manager hex data (200LX only):

From the System Manager, while holding <ALT> press <F9> four times then=
 <F10>
once. As long as you continue to hold <ALT> you will see six columns of=

hexadecimal information for each program managed by the System Manager.=
 (Thanks
to the crew at the old EduCALC website for this one! This may be less a=
n Easter
Egg than a development tool that was never edited out of the production=
 release.
Can anyone who knows HEX elaborate on this?)

Any other Easter Eggs out there?
=

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Hi there -

I would like the opinion of anyone who has had the 4MB memory upgrade
from MDN (Marcan) as advertised on the S.U.P.E.R. site.

Cheers

--
Brian Girling
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:27:40 +0200
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Dear Bruce, how do you run the self text on a double speed 200LX, as the display
driver is not loaded ?
Winfried Zettelmeyer, Malaga/Spain

Bruce Martin wrote:

> Here's an entirely new topic in keeping with the season: has anyone found any
> new Easter Eggs hidden in their 200LX, 100LX or 95LX?
>
> (For the uninitiated, an "Easter Egg" is an unauthorised bit of programming fun,
> hidden in software by the developers. Easter Eggs usually are jokes, riddles,
> cartoons, poems or a list of the developers' names.)
>
> Some known HP-LX Easter Eggs are...
>
> 1. Lair of the Squid credits (200LX only):
>
> Run Lair of the Squid. At the beginning of the game, you will see the first
> walled corridor. Type GALLERY and you will see a new corridor. Pictures of the
> development team's faces line the walls ahead of you to the left and the right.
> To view the faces properly, move forward then turn to look directly at them. At
> the fourth step forward and on your right is a plaque that reads:
>
>      Very special thanks
>      to all the people in HP
>      and all the companies
>      that made this palm-
>      top possible.
>          The Felix S/W Team
>
> ("Felix" was the developers' code name for the 200LX.) Go through the door to
> start a normal Lair of the Squid game.
>
> 2. Self Test poems
>
> (95LX, 100LX and 200LX):
> When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
> <CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <ENTER> 14 times to step
> through the test screens. You will see a poem that reads:
>
>      There once was this thing from HP
>      That fit in your pocket, you see.
>      A caveman would stare
>      And pull out his hair
>      And wonder. "What could this thing be?"
>
> Press <ENTER> until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your palmtop
> will reboot.
>
> (100LX and 200LX only):
> When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
> <CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <CTRL><ENTER> then
> <ALT><ENTER> 13 times to step through the test screens. You will see a poem that
> reads:
>
>      Felis Concolor
>
>      A funny thing happened on the way to the forum
>      When I encountered a group in search of a quorum.
>      They came from a city. The Burg On The Wire,
>      If I tried To describe it you'd call me a liar.
>      They wanted to charge me a really quite large fee
>      For the dubious pleasure of sharing their treasure.
>      "I'm a very Good man (Mark my words if you can),"
>      "But, the Dickens, I say, I simply won't pay!"
>      And with poetry, then, I proceeded to bore ?em
>      Then preceded myself on my way to the Forum.
>
> (My Latin is poor, but I interpret "Felis Concolor" as "Cat of the same color".
> Maybe this has something to do with the developers' code names for the LX
> series. The rest of the poem is a mystery to me. Any guesses?) Press <ENTER>
> until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your palmtop will reboot.
>
> (200LX only):
> When the palmtop is off, press <ESC><ON> to run the Self Test. Press
> <CURSORDOWN> once to select the Display test. Press <CTRL><ENTER> then
> <SHIFT><ENTER> 13 times to step through the test screens. You will see a poem
> that reads:
>
>      Nine lives has a Cat, and each Cat a name.
>      All of them different, none are the same.
>      Jaguar was the first, it made quite a roar.
>      Cougar was next, oh, how it did soar.
>      Felix is third, my heart it does quicken,
>      knows what comes next, the clock is a tickin'.
>
> (Again, the developers' code names for the 95LX, 100LX and 200LX were "Jaguar",
> "Cougar" and "Felix", so this poem is rather easy to understand.) Press <ENTER>
> until you return to the Self Test menu, then quit. Your palmtop will reboot.
>
> 3. System Manager hex data (200LX only):
>
> >From the System Manager, while holding <ALT> press <F9> four times then <F10>
> once. As long as you continue to hold <ALT> you will see six columns of
> hexadecimal information for each program managed by the System Manager. (Thanks
> to the crew at the old EduCALC website for this one! This may be less an Easter
> Egg than a development tool that was never edited out of the production release.
> Can anyone who knows HEX elaborate on this?)
>
> Any other Easter Eggs out there?
>
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At 07:26 AM 4/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hmmm... your obvoiusly from the other side of the fence :)

Obviously.  But yes, it is a matter of opinion.  As Dave Barry said once,
about music: "So we can clearly see that music is a matter of personal taste.
Person A may hate a particular song, such as 'Havin' My Baby' by Paul Anka
(who I suspect is also Neil Sedaka), and Person B might love this song.  But
does this mean that Person B is wrong?  Of course not.  It simply means that
Person B is an idiot.  Because some songs are just plain bad."

Substitute "Havin' My Baby" for "WinCE device", and you have the 200LX
argument right there.  ;)

>> >In the future,the 620 may be able to run DOS at half of >the stock 200LX's
>> speed.
>> >
>> I believe the XT-CE cite states that it will run DOS app's at the
equivalent
>> of 6MHz on the 620. Isn't the "stock" 200LX running at ~ 7 - 8 MHz. no,
the "stock" 200lx runs at 14 MHz.

I believe the stock 200 runs at 7.92 MHz, and the doublespeed runs at a flat
16MHz.  However, clock speed is irrelevant to actual speed.  A word processor
running on a PC-XT will often outrun a word processor running on a Pentium II.
It's because of the bloat factor on larger machines.  As it happens, the CE
machines have a far bigger bloat factor than their processors can effectively
handle, so they run unacceptably slow.

>>BTW the new 100MHz SH-3 processor will better the performance of the
>"stock" 200LX.

I seriously doubt it, even on native applications.

>Who in ther right mind would put a 100MHz cpu in a palmtop, look what
>happend to the apple newton when they tried to do that. The price went
>up and people left. If you need 100MHz just to emulate dos at 14MHz, you
>realy need a better os.

Exactly.  And 100MHz means nothing when a 16MHz DOS box (well, DOS matchbox ;)
can outperform it.  The operating system makes the machine.  And WinCE?  Well,
we'll just leave that one alone for right now.  But enough of the soapbox.
How about something constructive, like .. uh .. something else.  :)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Windows 95 is a haven for all the sadist programmers out there.  No,
I'm not talking about Microsoft, one of whose programs - in all
seriousness, apparently - asked 'Trust all Microsoft Corporation
information in the future?' -- No, I'm talking about Creative, whose
AWE64 installer corrupts the registry, causing three or four reboots,
or dies horribly, depending upon its mood.  And Windows 98?  You can
just forget it.  Any program that has a pleasant-looking splash screen
is almost guaranteed to fail miserably."
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As you said, it's strictly a matter of opinion.
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Date: Monday, April 13, 1998 16:19
Subject: Re: HP 620LX


>At 07:26 AM 4/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hmmm... your obvoiusly from the other side of the fence :)
>
>Obviously.  But yes, it is a matter of opinion.  As Dave Barry said once,
>about music: "So we can clearly see that music is a matter of personal
taste.
>Person A may hate a particular song, such as 'Havin' My Baby' by Paul Anka
>(who I suspect is also Neil Sedaka), and Person B might love this song.
But
>does this mean that Person B is wrong?  Of course not.  It simply means
that
>Person B is an idiot.  Because some songs are just plain bad."
>
>Substitute "Havin' My Baby" for "WinCE device", and you have the 200LX
>argument right there.  ;)
>
>>> >In the future,the 620 may be able to run DOS at half of >the stock
200LX's
>>> speed.
>>> >
>>> I believe the XT-CE cite states that it will run DOS app's at the
>equivalent
>>> of 6MHz on the 620. Isn't the "stock" 200LX running at ~ 7 - 8 MHz. no,
>the "stock" 200lx runs at 14 MHz.
>
>I believe the stock 200 runs at 7.92 MHz, and the doublespeed runs at a
flat
>16MHz.  However, clock speed is irrelevant to actual speed.  A word
processor
>running on a PC-XT will often outrun a word processor running on a Pentium
II.
>It's because of the bloat factor on larger machines.  As it happens, the CE
>machines have a far bigger bloat factor than their processors can
effectively
>handle, so they run unacceptably slow.
>
>>>BTW the new 100MHz SH-3 processor will better the performance of the
>>"stock" 200LX.
>
>I seriously doubt it, even on native applications.
>
>>Who in ther right mind would put a 100MHz cpu in a palmtop, look what
>>happend to the apple newton when they tried to do that. The price went
>>up and people left. If you need 100MHz just to emulate dos at 14MHz, you
>>realy need a better os.
>
>Exactly.  And 100MHz means nothing when a 16MHz DOS box (well, DOS matchbox
;)
>can outperform it.  The operating system makes the machine.  And WinCE?
Well,
>we'll just leave that one alone for right now.  But enough of the soapbox.
>How about something constructive, like .. uh .. something else.  :)
>
>Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
>Advanced Software Systems, Inc.
>
>"Windows 95 is a haven for all the sadist programmers out there.  No,
>I'm not talking about Microsoft, one of whose programs - in all
>seriousness, apparently - asked 'Trust all Microsoft Corporation
>information in the future?' -- No, I'm talking about Creative, whose
>AWE64 installer corrupts the registry, causing three or four reboots,
>or dies horribly, depending upon its mood.  And Windows 98?  You can
>just forget it.  Any program that has a pleasant-looking splash screen
>is almost guaranteed to fail miserably."
>    -- Me, "Today's Rant", from my upcoming web pages
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I've asked this before and never got a positive response. You can't use
the standard memory managers on the HP. You have to get one that is
specifically written for it. There's a freeware one that only works on
certain 2MB models. I have a commercial one called TREMM for
times2tech. It works with applications that use expanded memory but
doesn't seem to allow the DOS load high functionality.

Has anyone successfully "load high"'ed a TSR on the LX in any configuration?


BTW, Flames don't burn very high on this list so I, for one, hope no
one takes you up on the
On 1998-04-09 Wally@POP.UKY.EDU said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Warning:  I'm still trying to find a *use* for EMS on my 200LX.. :)
   >I have a 8 meg Double speed machine, and I'd like to free up some
   >system ram by using EMS, and perhaps Loadhigh, HIGHMEM.SYS, etc..
   >The 200LX is my first MS-DOS machine so I don't know much about
   >this sort of thing to be honest.
   >I've tried device=highmem.sys and dos=ums,high (what does that
   >mean?) in and a few devicehigh-... in config.sys, and a few
   >loadhigh drive:/path/file in autoexec, but it says that it was
   >loaded low and I have the same resulting memory (plus 2k, assuming
   >it's from the devicehigh on two small devices that aren't getting
   >loaded at all.)
   >Any way to do this?  I'm testing using DosShell rather than MaxDos
   >for allowing more flexable usage, and I think I like the setup, but
   >I only get 296K when I load SysMgr from DosShell, as reported under
   >SMMX with nothing else loaded except Filer, which I wish wouldn't
   >automatically open nor remain open after closing.  I know the hack
   >to the Appmgr.DAT file, and I use TaskList so I can close Filer,
   >just would be nice not to have to manually do it.
   >Ugh, it's really, really late (early I suppose)..  Must sleep, must
   >allow brain to rest, must stop griping.
   >I'd appreciate any himem/ems comments!! (Even 'you moron!' ones :)

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

10.0 times 0.1 is hardly ever 1.0.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 19:34:56 -0800
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I think you need to use the setver command.


On 1998-04-09 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Raphael Rues wrote:
   >> I'm trying to run on my HP200 2 Meg RAM the spreadsheet Excel 2.0
   >> (abandonware) which can't be load as the system needs some old
   >> Windows and/or DOS files.
   >Raphael, i don't quite understand what you mean by it needs "some
   >old windows and/or dos files" - could you be more specific?
   >PS: i don't think that you could consider excel 2.x abandonware in
   >my understanding of the term so please be vigilant for the MS
   >police who may not take kindly to the idea... :-)
   >Regards,

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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I've asked this before and never got a positive response. You can't use
> the standard memory managers on the HP. You have to get one that is
> specifically written for it. There's a freeware one that only works on
> certain 2MB models. I have a commercial one called TREMM for times2tech.
> It works with applications that use expanded memory but doesn't seem to
> allow the DOS load high functionality.
>
> Has anyone successfully "load high"'ed a TSR on the LX in any
> configuration?

No.  It can't be done.  TREMM provides EMM, "expanded memory."  Loadhigh
uses "high memory" which is memory between the 640K and 1024K addresses.
You have to have a memory manager like EMM386 installed to use high
memory.  Theoretically, it might be possible to write a high memory
manager for the LX, but I seriously doubt it.

(You may all regard that as a challenge to prove me wrong!  <g> )

 --
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:48:39 +1000
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I've got a 200LX 6mg machine, that I bought a couple of years ago from
N.S.W. Does anyone know of an EMM that works on this model? Is it any great
advantage, I mainly use PostLX
( fantastic prog ), 123 for my bosses diary, and Thinfax. (Oh and my
girlfriend makes good use of ALL of the games on it.

Regards,
David
"In bocca a lupo"

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> From: David Sargeant <istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: Loadhigh on 200LX?
> Date: Tuesday, 14 April 1998 12:09
>
> On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Edward A. Padin wrote:
>
> > I've asked this before and never got a positive response. You can't use
> > the standard memory managers on the HP. You have to get one that is
> > specifically written for it. There's a freeware one that only works on
> > certain 2MB models. I have a commercial one called TREMM for
times2tech.
> > It works with applications that use expanded memory but doesn't seem to
> > allow the DOS load high functionality.
> >
> > Has anyone successfully "load high"'ed a TSR on the LX in any
> > configuration?
>
> No.  It can't be done.  TREMM provides EMM, "expanded memory."  Loadhigh
> uses "high memory" which is memory between the 640K and 1024K addresses.
> You have to have a memory manager like EMM386 installed to use high
> memory.  Theoretically, it might be possible to write a high memory
> manager for the LX, but I seriously doubt it.
>
> (You may all regard that as a challenge to prove me wrong!  <g> )
>
>  --
> Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 21:24:40 EDT
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I an not an expert on this, but I play one on TV.

(Well, not really, but it makes a good start.)

It is my understanding that HP has mapped the high memory addresses to
hardware functions, much as it did on the Omnibook 300 sub-laptop.  The Ob 300
is even more limited in its DOS-ability than the 200LX, even though it is a
386 class computer, with the ability to opporate in protected mode.

I have corresponded with several people who have explainations well over my
head.  They have all assured me that there is no <demonstrated> way to load
devices high -- thereby increasing the amount of sub-640 memory available to
programs.

One person hinted the machine-level programing might produce a solution, at
least in the case where one had exited Systems Manager.  However, I would bet
anyone a speed upgrade that there is not a DEMONSTRATED  way to load drivers,
devices, TSR's, etc into the High Memory block.

Nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong.  If i could load Buddy
into high memory ...

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1998 22:55:35 -0700
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Hey, I'm thinking about getting a Ricochet Wireless system for my 100LX
and was wondering if there was anybody out there who's had success or
failure using their palmtop with this. I'd mostly be using it for short
telnet sessions to check my email and stuff....

Thanks,

---Steve

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Our ABC/LX product has several easter eggs.

When you run ABC.EXE, press Fn-s. This gives the list of beta
testers. Fn-s is generates the character beta (or sz in
German).

Also, the faces of people involved in making ABC/LX happen are
embedded in the product. it is an alternative way to showing
who they are rather than give their initials. (that was a
hint!)

There is at least the beta-easteregg in the WWW/LX Plus
version 2 :) ...

There are others, too, but eastereggs are supposed to be
hunted for, searched for, no? <g>

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 06:06:20 -0400
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Did anyone in Germany successfully install the new WWW/LX 1.2
with the ISPs METRONET or T_ONLINE?

I use the old version of WWW/LX on both without any problems.

The new version allows me to connect and login on both, but
I cannot access any URL. HV says:

 Timeout      (METRONET)
 Carrier lost (T_ONLINE)

Any help appreciated.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:11:19 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Avi,

Does GET work with the new version (of WWW/LX, etc.)?  Haven't
tried it yet, ...

Best regards,

Claud

> Ken,
>
> > I frequently use www.yahoo.com/headlines/news with my Hp200LX
> > I can download just the stories I am interested in and read offline.
> > This does require some online picking and choosing though.
>
> Look at GET.EXE, available as freeware in our Web site
> http://www.dasoft.com (follow the path to WWW/LX then files
> associated with it.
>
> GET allows you to set up a list of URLs, then fire it up, and
> it will run WWW/LX obtain these Web pages, modify the linkages
> to suit the local palmtop environment, then logogg. You read
> the stuff using HV off line.
>
>   Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:25:19 -0300
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The courier knocked on my door yesterday and delivered a new Nikon
Coolpix 100 digital camera. Alas it does not work with the 200LX. It
would be great if it did. It worked fine in a 486/50 Twinhead Slimnote
550 Laptop though. Follow this link if you want to see the image
quality...

http://www.navnet.net/~tigerbbs/nikon.html


It took less than a week to receive the camera from CDW...

Tom Rowsell

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:29:20 -0400
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I've just started using my 200LX's CC:Mail function.  When I do a Creat=
e to
start a new piece of email it fills in the "From:" field with the 1st l=
ine of
Owner info that normally appears in the Topcard.  The Topcard is filled=
 with
the Owner data from Setup.  That setup info asks for Name, Title and Co=
mpany.
I used those fields for other purposes like...

  If found return for Reward!
  Russel.Brooks@pobox.com
  <and a couple of phone numbers>

So what I'm ending up with is my CC:Mail says it is from "If found retu=
rn for
Reward!".  Is there a way to change CC:Mail so I can just input my name=
 without
having to change my Topcard info?

Cheers...
Russ Brooks
=

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:38:08 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Easter eggs, while sometimes kinda fun, are a waste of the tiny space
available to us (the users) in our palmtops.  I often consider the
easter egg when selecting an application.  In the future before you
place an egg into a program, please consider that that application might
be used by someone on an HP plamtop, where space is _not_ cheap.

Thank you for your support in this matter.

Phil

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 00:05:52 +0800
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Hi There!

If you live in Singapore, use Singnet and have tried to connect using
WWW/LX 2.0 on your HP palmtop, then please contact me. I have tired but it
will not work- what's your experience?

Thanks,

Jorgen


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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:06:56 -0400
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              Owen Samuelson <owensam@HOM.NET>
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At 11:29 AM 4/14/98 -0400, you wrote:
>I've just started using my 200LX's CC:Mail function.  When I do a Create to
>start a new piece of email it fills in the "From:" field with the 1st line of
>Owner info that normally appears in the Topcard.  The Topcard is filled with
>the Owner data from Setup.  That setup info asks for Name, Title and Company.
>I used those fields for other purposes like...
>
>  If found return for Reward!
>  Russel.Brooks@pobox.com
>  <and a couple of phone numbers>
>
>So what I'm ending up with is my CC:Mail says it is from "If found return for
>Reward!".  Is there a way to change CC:Mail so I can just input my name
without
>having to change my Topcard info?

I don't know the answer Russ, but you could create another topcard image
with a graphics program and put lost and found info on it.  Then you could
change the setup info to what CC:Mail wants.




--------------
Owen Samuelson,
Amateur call: KU4ET
HP200LX: http://www.hom.net/~owensam/ptidx.html

"Well-informed people know that it is impossible to transmit the voice
over wires and that, were it possible to do so, the thing would be of
no practical value."
                                   A newspaper editor in 1865

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:47:01 -0500
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              Bob Roberts <terbocom@TERBOCOM.COM>
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Tom, thanks for posting the pics.  You tipped the scales for me
and I just orderd a Coolpix 100 from "Coast to Coast Cameras".
(I had to call about 20 places before I found one)  Their
price was a little higher ($117), but they have some in stock.
(phone 1-800-788-5555 if anyone is interested)
Thanks again!
Bob Roberts

At 12:25 PM 4/14/98 -0300, you wrote:
>The courier knocked on my door yesterday and delivered a new Nikon
>Coolpix 100 digital camera. Alas it does not work with the 200LX. It
>would be great if it did. It worked fine in a 486/50 Twinhead Slimnote
>550 Laptop though. Follow this link if you want to see the image
>quality...
>
>http://www.navnet.net/~tigerbbs/nikon.html
>
>
>It took less than a week to receive the camera from CDW...
>
>Tom Rowsell
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 18:54:01 +0000
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Hi,

a short story which makes you think about the quality of HP's service:
My HP200LX has developed the famous hinge crack during the warranty period,
so I sent it in to the European Customer Center. They returned it after
three weeks or something, with the crack repaired (and several sratches in
the plastic, OK, not too bad).
The only problem is: The HP does not work with external power sources any
more. They obviously ruined the socket - I really can't imagine how.
Well, I'll send it in again and wait again - as they did NOT forget to
attach a new warranty-void-seal...

C U all
        -Tobias-

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:03:40 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 14 Apr 1998, Tobias Kraus wrote:

> a short story which makes you think about the quality of HP's service:
> My HP200LX has developed the famous hinge crack during the warranty period,
> so I sent it in to the European Customer Center. They returned it after
> three weeks or something, with the crack repaired (and several sratches in
> the plastic, OK, not too bad).
> The only problem is: The HP does not work with external power sources any
> more. They obviously ruined the socket - I really can't imagine how.
> Well, I'll send it in again and wait again - as they did NOT forget to
> attach a new warranty-void-seal...

If it's any comfort, the same sort of thing happened to me after my
upgrade by T2T. The LX was sent back to them and it turns out the aluminum
shielding around the serial port got caught in the adapter when the
machine was closed, the fix being to just move that piece of aluminum.

Sh.t happens, I guess. Your problem may be as minor...just a major
annoyance I know.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:09:44 +0000
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At 11:03 14.04.98 -0700, you wrote:
>> They obviously ruined the socket - I really can't imagine how.
>> Well, I'll send it in again and wait again - as they did NOT forget to
>> attach a new warranty-void-seal...
>If it's any comfort, the same sort of thing happened to me after my
>upgrade by T2T. The LX was sent back to them and it turns out the aluminum
>shielding around the serial port got caught in the adapter when the
>machine was closed, the fix being to just move that piece of aluminum.

That probably happened with me: You can see a silver piece of something
which schouldn't be there. A nasty failure: it could have killed the
AC-adapter...
Well, I'll ask HP whether I may fix it myself without loosing the
guarantee, saving their money and my time, but I don't have much hope.

C U
        -Tobias-

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:47:21 -0500
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Subject:      Re: LX Easter Egg hunt

And the same goes for smiling too!!!  Sure, it might be fun but it uses
too many muscles.  The caloric cost of that extra effort, though small,
has a huge cumulative effect on our productivity.

Larry Zimmerman


On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:38:08 -0500 Phil Drummond
<phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM> writes:
>Easter eggs, while sometimes kinda fun, are a waste of the tiny space
>available to us (the users) in our palmtops.  I often consider the
>easter egg when selecting an application.  In the future before you
>place an egg into a program, please consider that that application
>might
>be used by someone on an HP plamtop, where space is _not_ cheap.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:18:58 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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A humans capacity for smiling is not restricted to the memory space in
the brain.

I have 2meg free in my 8meg palmtop.  One of those meg is _required_ as
swap space for an application that I use to complete my job.  The other
is what remains after carefull management of limited memory space.  I
have NO games in RAM on my palmtop.  I would LIKE to have some games on
my palmtop.  I don't have room.  If I find that someone has wasted some
space in an application with something that I have no use for _after_ I
have read-looked_at-listened_to, I try to remove the portion of the
application to make more room.  If I can not, I go looking for an
application that will do the same thing _without_ the added baggage of
an easter egg.

Have you ever wondered why it takes so long (considering the speed of
modern PCs) to load MS Excell?  Easter Eggs.  As an example read the
following...

Excel 7 Easter Egg

1.Open a New Excel spreadsheet
2.Down arrow until you reach cell 95
3.Select the entire row by clicking the mouse on the 95 on the left side
4.Tab to column B
5.Select Help / About Microsoft Excel
6.While holding down the Control and Shift Keys, click on Tech Support
7.A window should come up that you can move around in.
8.Use the arrow keys for left, right, forward, backward
9.C and D are down and up.
10.Turn towards the wall away from the stairs and type EXCELKFA
The wall disappears and you can wall to a back room with pictures.

This kind of stuff is why you need 32meg of RAM on your desktop just to
get the same thing done as you do on your palmtop.  Ok, try to tell me
that you can do more with your desktop than your palmtop, old talk, you
carry your palmtop to use computer applications when you are working,
you stop working to go home to use your desktop machine.  (of course
this arguement does not apply to people who use a desktop machine to do
work, but those people don't use a palmtop for work, do they. :)

Rant concluded, screw easter eggs.

Phil

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              Franklin Eekhout <franklin@ONLINE.NO>
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Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM

Hi!

These Easter eggs work on the 700LX too! Thanks!

Franklin

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:24:35 -0600
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Greetings,

  A new lurker here !  Has anyone any recommendations for/against
any PCMCIA hard drives or high-cap floppies for the 200LX?  I suspect
I will need access from time to time of large amounts of data that
would be cost prohibitive on flashdisk.  I know I would want to
provide aux power for the beast, too.  I have not confirmed it, but
I suspect the amount of data I would need to access would be on the
order of 200-300 megabytes.

tnx,
john

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:39:04 -0500
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              Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
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Here's a "paste" from an email I received with respect to the Shark 250
removable hard drive...



I am looking for the same thing you are.  Currently I'm using a Trans
Digital, TransPC card and an Iomega Zip drive.  Works ok, but has some
problems with the topcard and other PIM stuff on the palmtop.  Works
fine in DOS.

Phil



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From: Donald Rohrbacher <drohrbacher@goavatar.com>
To: "'phil_drummond@pagenet.com'" <phil_drummond@pagenet.com>
Subject: RE: Request for Help
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 15:57:21 -0500
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Our parallel port driver is designed to work with a standard parallel
port and MS DOS 5.0 and above. If your Trans PC Card is configured for
LPT1 then give it a try. I have not tested to see if the drivers will
load in that situation. The drivers are written to search for a device
attached to a parallel port.

Please give us a call if you have any questions at: 408-953-0123

Donald Rohrbacher
Avatar Customer Support

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        Sent:  Tuesday, April 07, 1998 8:00 PM
        To:  Support
        Subject:  Request for Help


        Name: Phil Drummond
        Mailing address:
        City:
        State:
          Zip:
        Email address: phil_drummond@pagenet.com
        Best time to call: Afternoon
        Shark Serial Number: none as yet
        Shark Config. Number:

        Version of Shark 250: PC Card
        Operating System: DOS
        PC Type: Laptop PC
        PC model number: Dell Latitude

        Category of Problem/Question: Operating System

        Description of Problem/Question:
        Question(s):  Will the parallel port version of the Shark 250
work when using a Trans Digital Corp., Trans PC Card, configured as LPT1
under DOS v5.0.  Also if this configuration is supported, can external
power be supplied to the Shark 250 Drive?

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:51:21 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> Does GET work with the new version (of WWW/LX, etc.)?  Haven't
> tried it yet, ...

Just finished trying Get with POST/LX 2.0, and it worked.

So have it! (:-D


Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:22:03 -0300
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              "MK Projetos e Construgues Ltda." <pmar@FT.COM.BR>
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hello people:

i am new in your team. i have a hp 200 lx. what about creating a group for
every kind or model of palmtop? . in less than a month i got more than 1000
messages and only 10 percent are usefull.


if this message does not reach the right place, please re-send it.

tks a lot,

paulo martini

pmar@ft.com.br


.>Peniel:
>
>> Well - it's happening again.  Email downloading (with Post/LX) stalled
>> with "deleting message on host" in the status window.  I'm reasonably
>> sure that the problem is with the ISP and not Post.  It looks like the
>> host isn't responding to the command to delete the message, and Post
>> times out while waiting...
>
>Yuck! The exact same thing happened to me on this very pass! I
>am hoping that the new version due this week will lick these
>problems!
>
>  Avi M. ÝD&A¨
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:24:29 -0400
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              Ian Butler <ianrb@CASPERS.NET>
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At 03:18 PM 4/14/98 -0500, you wrote:
>A humans capacity for smiling is not restricted to the memory space in
>the brain.

Eh?

>I have 2meg free in my 8meg palmtop.  One of those meg is _required_ as
>swap space for an application that I use to complete my job.  The other
<snip>
>application to make more room.  If I can not, I go looking for an
>application that will do the same thing _without_ the added baggage of
>an easter egg.

I just gained 68.5 bytes of RAM by deleting that paragraph! <nudge> <wink> ;)
Really, I understand the memory constraints of palmtops (I have a 2M) but it's
ridiculous to think that what's essentially an "about" screen would take up
so much space that a computer's speed/space would be crippled by it.  And
really, if you have to count your bytes that badly, you can get Stacker or
Jam and just forget about it.

>Have you ever wondered why it takes so long (considering the speed of
>modern PCs) to load MS Excell?  Easter Eggs.  As an example read the
>following...

Um, not exactly.  Easter eggs are an interesting and cute way of recognizing
something, generally the programmers involved with the project.  I'm sure the
ABC/LX eggs take up a few hundred bytes, but it's just the same as having
a larger "credits" screen.  And Excel isn't crappy and slow because of easter
eggs; it's crappy and slow because it's badly written.  I'm under the
impression that D&A software is anything but badly written.

>This kind of stuff is why you need 32meg of RAM on your desktop just to
>get the same thi</rant>

>Rant concluded, screw easter eggs.

Rebuttal concluded, screw screwing easter eggs.  ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"Windows 95 is a haven for all the sadist programmers out there.  No,
I'm not talking about Microsoft, one of whose programs - in all
seriousness, apparently - asked 'Trust all Microsoft Corporation
information in the future?' -- No, I'm talking about Creative, whose
AWE64 installer corrupts the registry, causing three or four reboots,
or dies horribly, depending upon its mood.  And Windows 98?  You can
just forget it.  Any program that has a pleasant-looking splash screen
is almost guaranteed to fail miserably."
    -- Me, "Today's Rant", from my upcoming web pages

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:30:41 -0400
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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  In the future before you
>place an egg into a program, please consider that that application might
>be used by someone on an HP plamtop, where space is _not_ cheap.
>
>Thank you for your support in this matter.
>
>Phil

Hi

I couldnt help but smile...

A Plamtop...

Is this a new computer???

Sounds like it wont work if space is expensive..  <grin>

Russell

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:05:06 -0400
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Fellow HP Nuts:

I just have a few things to clear up from over here on the old web server...

1) I brought the system down for a new kernel and a reboot after 117 days of
uptime (a new record) early last week and it repaid me by eating one of its
disk partitions. It wasn't an important one so I just let the carcass remain on
my primary disk and went on without it. I had a bit of downtime due to the
excitement.

2) Right after that little incident, my SCSI subsystem hung while I was playing
a nice MIDI of the theme from "Shaft" and left my system load at over 5
overnight. Needless to say, the web server though running, could not get enough
cycles to answer http requests. My fault, but more downtime occured there.

3) I have just recently moved offices in my real job and the new digs are
internet-unfriendly. I had to heavily curtail my incoming email for a while and
was off this list while making adjustments. I want to offer a big public thanks
to Avi Meshar and D&A Software for upgrading my WWW/LX to the latest and
greatest. My email woes are solved now that I have the new POST/LX and I have
to say that this is the best email app I have seen for the HP in four years of
active palmtopping. I don't want to knock the other players, but this thing
rocks.

4) SUPER Site updates were slow while I had my HP down to Mack getting the 32MB
upgrade and the speed upgrade. (I still get a huge smile when I see that big
disk!  Thanks Mack!) If you didn't know, I keep track of all the files on my HP
and generate ASCII exports which get processed by Peter Watkins' excellent perl
scripts on my Linux machine. Without my HP, there can be no SUPER updates.
Sorry to those who submitted and had to wait for files to show up.

5) We are hoping to get this WWW/LX download incompatibility fixed soon. The
problem is: Peter fixes the perl code and does not have WWW/LX. Avi may be
sending him an unlock key so he can figure out what's going on. Once he gets
all set up with WWW/LX, it should not be long. The irony of SUPER not playing
well with WWW/LX has not been lost on me. (And in looking through the list
archives, I have fixed the incorrect reference to HV as "hypertext viewer";
first I'd heard of it...really.)

That's all I've got for now. Just letting you know that we're still out here
and trying to keep The Palmtop Network the best web destination for HP lovers.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team and webtroll

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:53:42 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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Subject:      Re: EXP PCMCIA Hard Drive
Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> I have an EXP external hard drive, with a PCMCIA card cable, that I use
> with a notebook computer, and am wondering if this thing can be used with
> the HPX00/LX.  I know the power requirements are probably steep (to spin
> the HD, etc.), but it is available with an AC power supply.

I use a PCMCIA 520MB Type-III rotating hard drive with my palmtop by means
of a Accurite DoubleSlot (with power supply).

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:55:54 -0700
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Claud:

> Does GET work with the new version (of WWW/LX, etc.)?  Haven't
> tried it yet, ...

No reason why not. It is a program that runs WWW.EXE and hands
it URLs to retrieve.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:02:41 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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In-Reply-To:  <c=US%a=_%p=PageNet%l=NTHOU01-980414153808Z-926@pagenet.com> from
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> Easter eggs, while sometimes kinda fun, are a waste of the tiny space
> available to us (the users) in our palmtops.

Ah, the real reason modern software is so big....

BTW I don't mind the Easter Eggs built-in to the palmtop - the digitised
images in Lair of Squid were kinda fun. I guess the applications didn't
fill up the ROM _exactly_, so why not?

But I'd hate to think of calvin, my 47K vi clone, having 10K of images
hidden in it :)


On the vi-front, I have obtained a copy of vim 3.0
        - 250K
        - about twice as fast as vim 4.6 (1 or 2 seconds to load)
        - full vi compatibilliy; word completion; multi-windows; automatic
                interpretation of compiler file errors (bring up the file
                in question, at the line of each error in turn).
        - multiple-undo

If anyone wants it, I'll put it on my web-site below. (It's not there now)

I still use calvin almost all the time, but when lectures recommence after
the Easter break, I'm hoping the word-completion (¬P previous, ¬N next)
will be very cool. I tried D&A's cool TSR word-completion - very cute,
but the alphabetic commands of vi are mixed with text entry. It would
be perfect for use in the built-in Memo.


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:37:21 -0700
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Ian,

> Um, not exactly.  Easter eggs are an interesting and cute way of =
recognizing
> something, generally the programmers involved with the project.  I'm =
sure the
> ABC/LX eggs take up a few hundred bytes, but it's just the same as =
having
> a larger "credits" screen.  And Excel isn't crappy and slow because of =
easter
> eggs; it's crappy and slow because it's badly written.  I'm under the
> impression that D&A software is anything but badly written.

_Very_ few hundred bytes. It was a concern, believe t or not,
that the images take lots of space, but they are minor in
size, and lousy in quality <g>, so they take very little
space. Hey, the icons take 200 bytes a piece! On a 2M c drive
the clustersize is what 1024 bytes, so each one wastes 800
bytes! Yikes.

Anyway, there is a balance (albeit fine, and tough to find)
between recognition value and program size. Both have utility.
Without the dedication of beta groups like we have, the
quality of the software may have suffered. Maybe the pressure
of a deamnding group pushes the author to better achievemnents
in compactness. Go figure.

I agree with Phil, that large, elaborate wasteful easter eggs
are a PITA (pain in the er... arteries, yeah, arteries. ...)
and we were really concerned with that.

What about "back door functions? Debug functions? They are a
form of "unused" code if your programs run fine! What about
code to check that the program runs on the palmtop - if you
NEVER run it anywhere else?

'nuff!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:37:25 -0700
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Mitch:

First: Ouch on the machine troubles! Sorry to hear all this.

> 3) I have just recently moved offices in my real job and the new digs =
are
> internet-unfriendly. I had to heavily curtail my incoming email for a =
while and
> was off this list while making adjustments. I want to offer a big =
public thanks
> to Avi Meshar and D&A Software for upgrading my WWW/LX to the latest =
and
> greatest. My email woes are solved now that I have the new POST/LX and =
I have
> to say that this is the best email app I have seen for the HP in four =
years of
> active palmtopping. I don't want to knock the other players, but this =
thing
> rocks.

I like this: Rock-n'-Post/LX! <G>...

As for you: You have done sooooooooooo much for this
community, that this upgrade is a mere tiny token of thanks
for helping to preserve the "Palmtop way of life"! :) It took
me about 14 femto seconds when I saw your message! (Can a
brain think that fast? )

Re competition: I am VERY PLEASED that there are other
entries! Sounds weird, no? Well, the fact that there are other
entries tells the world two things:

1. This platform is REAL! Is is not a toy.

2. Doing "internet stuff" on it is a realistic possibility -
witness the room for multiple entries in the market!

> 5) We are hoping to get this WWW/LX download incompatibility fixed =
soon. The
> problem is: Peter fixes the perl code and does not have WWW/LX. Avi may =
be
> sending him an unlock key so he can figure out what's going on. Once he =
gets
> all set up with WWW/LX, it should not be long. The irony of SUPER not =
playing
> well with WWW/LX has not been lost on me. (And in looking through the =
list
> archives, I have fixed the incorrect reference to HV as "hypertext =
viewer";
> first I'd heard of it...really.)

Can Pete please send an email to me at info@dasoft.com with
first and last name, and refer to your message here? I'll do
it gladly!

Thanks for what you and crew do for this community!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:11:51 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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I suggest a rule for posting complaints to this list -
        you are not allowed to post it until you can smile about it.
        If you are so uptight that you can't smile, you can't send it yet.
        Then make sure the tone of the email refects your smile.

Many unpleasant things can (and should) be discussed on this list -
including severe difference of opinion. But if you can't discuss it
with a smile, it spoils the list. Don't spoil the list.

I think we've all seen enough of this type of post in the last couple of
months.

How about smiling whilst discussing all this? People react angrily to
posts because of their tone, more than their content.


--
Brendan Macmillan                                    bren@cs.monash.edu.au
Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human
history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
     -- Mitch Ratliffe, _Technology Review_ April, 1992

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 04:00:52 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: New Battery type

On 1998-04-12 HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >These new batteries are based on a proprietary technology which is
   >already in use but could not be incorporated in AA and AAA cells
   >economically until recently, and then, as often happens, by
   >accident. THEY ARE NOT YET IN PRODUCTION, so dont dream about 800
   >and here is my Visa#. They are disposable non toxic units and will
   >sell for about $20.00 in packs of 4.
   >So my question still remains: if you could get 100 hours of
   >regular use, or say 30 hours of use with an EXP modem from time to
   >time, would you pay $20. If not what would you pay?
   >Dont be shy.

I think that the NiMH batteries from times2tech are a better bet. I
never am far away from AC power long enough to need 100 hours. Now, if
you could find a way to recharge these puppies...


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

* UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories.

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Subject:      Re: Time Reset?

I wrote the LXB script below to verify the time on bootup. Feel free to
use,modify, butcher or take credit for it :-)




---------------- Start of script


goto program
-----------------------------------------------------------
Datechk.lxb - Checks system date versus specified parameter
-----------------------------------------------------------
lxb script to check date on HP200LX with limited Y2K compliance.
by Ed Padin epadin@wagweb.com
________________________________________________________________________
This is a fairly simple script that will check if the HP LX system date
has been reset. It works in a similar manner the datetest.exe program
found at www.palmtop.net.

The advantage is that this is an LXB script and takes up less space
than the 27K of datetest.exe. You do have to have the LXB
interpreter, which is about 30k+. This script is only useful for those
who already use lxb (It's useful for lots of stuff. If you don't
already have it then I suggest to check it out.)

run this with: lxb lxbfile datechk.lxb begin "year" or compile it and
then run as filename.exe (year)
to check if date on LX has been reset.
Note: This script is Y2K compliant until 2080. If you still have
      your palmtop in 2080 then you should consider an upgrade.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

:program
if "%1" == "" goto noparm
strlen *len %1
if not @len@ == 2 goto noparm

strright *dt 2 @DATE@

if %1 < 80 set *parm 20%1
if %1 = 80 set *parm 19%1
if %1 > 80 set *parm 19%1

if @dt@ < 80 set *year 20@dt@
if @dt@ = 80 set *year 19@dt@
if @dt@ > 80 set *year 19@dt@

if @year@ < @parm@ goto dateset
goto end
:dateset
graph
print @date@
display 10 50 6  Date Has Been Reset!
display 10 70 6  Enter Correct Date & Time:
rem print statement below prints ctrl-g (system beep).
print
cursor 0 13
dos @echo.
dos date
dos @echo.
dos time
goto end
:noparm
graph
print
display 10 50 6  Wrong Year Parameter Specified!
display 10 70 6  Usage: DATECHK {YEAR}
display 10 90 5  Where (YEAR) is a 2 digit year (97,99,01,etc.}
display 10 110 4  Note: Y2K Compliance until 2080.
display 10 150 6  Press Any Key ...
getkey *pkey
goto end
:end
screenrestore


---------------- End of script


On 1998-04-13 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >When I used my 200LX last night, I saw something strange. The time
   >had been reset to Jan 1980.  Seems like this is the power on time
   >after a hard reset.  I hadn't performed a hard reset recently,
   >although I did change the batteries on Thursday.   But I've never
   >had this happen before when I changed the batteries.
   >Has anyone else experienced time being reset?  Any ideas what caused
   >it?
   >-Chris Lott
   >********************************************************************
   >*** R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
   >lott@phase4.com Phase IV Systems, Inc.
   >alternate address: 3405 Triana Blvd, SW
   >rclott@ro.com Huntsville, AL  35805
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When in doubt, lead trump.

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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Comments: To: Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> On the vi-front, I have obtained a copy of vim 3.0
>         - 250K
>         - about twice as fast as vim 4.6 (1 or 2 seconds to load)
>         - full vi compatibilliy; word completion; multi-windows; automatic
>                 interpretation of compiler file errors (bring up the file
>                 in question, at the line of each error in turn).
>         - multiple-undo
>
> If anyone wants it, I'll put it on my web-site below. (It's not there now)

Brendan,

I would like to see this vim version also. Is the 250k the disk size of
the .exe or the amount of RAM required to run?

If I switch from being a "Calvinite" to a "vim-er", it sounds like a jump
from a religious cult to a diet group.

- Longden

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On Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:27:40 +0200, Winfried Zettelmeyer articulated...

>Dear Bruce, how do you run the self text on a double speed 200LX, as the
>display driver is not loaded ? Winfried Zettelmeyer, Malaga/Spain

On my 200LX 8 meg Doublespeed machine the display is fully readable, only
shifted 8 or so pixels to the right, and shows garbage in this area.  Other
than that, the display is fully visible.

However, most timing tests fail, as would be expected.  Asside from the fact
that the righthand part of the border at the bottom isn't visible, the self
test screens look normal.

--
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 .  Walter Francis                                               _. KT4LH  .
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              Paul Stratton <paul_stratton@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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Comments: To: "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>

I'd like to be the first to say: "Keep Up The Good Work!". Your sight is the
easiest and best source of HP200LX info that I know.

Paul Stratton

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              Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>
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>From:    "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
>Our ABC/LX product has several easter eggs.

Avi,
I'm curious, how much smaller would the program have been if you'd left=
 the
Easter Eggs out?

I personally don't care for these hidden messages and graphics because =
of the
space they usually take up.  This is especially true of programs for th=
e LX
palmtops.  Not all of us have or will get the 32Meg upgrade.  If they n=
eed to
be included then I wish they were put in  optional files that can be de=
leted if
space is short.

Russ Brooks

ps- I don't have ABC/LX because I use disposable lithiums.
=

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On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:11:51 +1000, Brendan Wrote:

> I suggest a rule for posting complaints to this list -
>
>      you are not allowed to post it until you can smile about it.
>
>      If you are so uptight that you can't smile, you can't
>      send it yet.
>
>      Then make sure the tone of the email refects your
>      smile.
>
O  /
 \/ ------SNIP----->
 /\
O  \


AMEN! Thank You for this sentiment, I couldn't have written it better
myself. If you can't "gripe with a smile", take it off this list.

Thank You All(~800). Your overall positive attitudes make this LIST=
 a
pleasure to manage!

Cheers,


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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:20:12 -0400
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              Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM
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On  Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:18:58 -0500
Phil Drummond <phil_drummond@PAGENET.COM>
said:

Ýsnipped to save precious space¨

* Rant concluded, screw easter eggs.

* Phil

Relax, Phil!

These Easter Eggs are built into the palmtops' ROM, not RAM. If the Easter Eggs
weren't there, you *still* wouldn't have any additional RAM to work with.

Also, if I'm not mistaken (doubtless someone will tell me if I am), these
ROM-based applications are XIP or eXecute In Place. This means that they
essentially run from ROM -- without having to first load entirely into precious
RAM -- unlike hard disk based applications on your desktop.

Finally, we're only talking a few hundred bytes here. Buy a Flash card, or get a
RAM upgrade from T2T or MDN and live a little!

While we're on the subject, here's another Easter Egg that was sent to me
anonymously:

4. More Applications sample icons (100LX -- what about the others?):

From the System Manager, press the blue <&...> key to open More Applications.
Use the cursor keys to select an application that is not part of the built-in HP
software suite (that is, an application you added to the palmtop yourself).
Press <F3> to Edit. Press <ALT><I> to go to the icon assignment box. Press
<CURSORDOWN> repeatedly to step through the sample icons supplied by HP. One of
them is a picture of a snarling cougar, in honor of the 100LX's codename,
Cougar.

What sample icons are supplied in the 95LX and the 200LX? Possibly a spotted
Jaguar and a Felix the Cat to represent their codenames?

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In honor of Al Kind's request...


     :)

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:02:12 -0500
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From:         Larry Zimmerman <zimm4@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: LX Easter Egg hunt

It would just be a dairy product if you announced it's hiding place.  It
becomes an Easter egg when you hide it.

If you've been to a museum, you know that Degas, DaVinci, and those guys
had pretty big signatures.  It could be argued that their signature
detracts from the content of the work.  At the same time, you could argue
that the signature is fundamental to the art; it gives it added value,
uniqueness, and identifiability (I doubt that's a word).

Software is the creative work of a human.  A sentient being designs,
creates, and markets their work vesting it with their personality and
vision.  I see no more justification in asking the programmer to confine
his "signature" to a credits screen than I do a request that visual
artists sign their work in Times New Roman, 8 point.

Larry Zimmerman

PS - I always thought the cougar icon was a stock icon for use with
PUMA's Intellisync software.  I wondered why they'd provide an icon for
those reasons.  The project name theory makes much more sense.



On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 08:47:30 -0400 Russel Brooks <rlbrooks@US.IBM.COM>
writes:
> If they need to be included then I wish they were put in  optional
files that can be
>deleted if space is short.
>

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 10:43:35 -0500
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From:         Stan Peters <speters@KDSI.NET>
Subject:      Time Reset? Check in 7K
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PC Magazine put out Batchman, a 7K program to assist
batch file writers. It will return the year. Many other things
Drive exist? / directory exist? / Wait until / Beep / string compare  ......

Its on Simtel in Vol9n02.zip.

Edward A. Padin wrote:

> I wrote the LXB script below to verify the time on bootup. Feel free to
> use,modify, butcher or take credit for it :-)
>
> ---------------- Start of script
> You do have to have the LXB
> interpreter, which is about 30k+.

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:01:08 -0300
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Subject:      Palmtop.Net Status

HP>Fellow HP Nuts:

   Dear mitch,

   i want to thank you, also, for your work, i know it's not easy, to
support a platform, when the market wants to kill it like hp and
micro$oft

Keep going !!!!

I'm speaking for all makers of software and hardware that are supporting
the platform, like thaddeus, dasoft, etc, etc

Thanks to all too!

by the way, my isp, is giving me 2mb of web space, i'm not using it, and
i don't want right NOW to learn about html, if the palmtop comunity need
for some reason space for files or text, please fell free to use it,
i'll be more than happy to help


again, thanks for all!

Martin
Marseb@giga.com.ar

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:37:23 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              allen solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET>
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with a Sandisk flash card inserted in my A: drive I thought I could
partition it by using the FDISK100 command. Not only did it not work but
now I can't access A: or even reformat it. :-((   (I was following the
procedure I read about  in the PTP).  When I try to access the card I
get the error message "invalid media type reading drive a:"
How deep of a hole have I dug myself into?
TIA

On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:56:13 -0500
Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:

> "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to attach/detach files with Post/LX?  I must
> > admit, I have not thoroughly searched the manual, but I've
> > scanned it pretty well.  Have I missed something?
> >
> AFAIK there's no way to attach files. You CAN send MIME-encoded
> binaries as separate messages.  To decode binary attachments, you use
> MIME-UUDecode from the "external" menu. ( ÝMENU¨ - x - m ).
>
> > Also, how do you "quote" a message in a reply?
> >
> If you're using PE (I assume from your next paragraph that you are...),
> After you hit "Reply" and PE opens, hit ÝF7¨(Next), move down to the
> text you want to quote, highlight it, hit Copy (Fn =), then hit ÝF7¨
> again to return to the first screen, Hit Paste (Fn +), Highlight the
> text again, and hit ÝEsc¨+.  That will mark each line with a >.
>
> > One last thing:  in HV.CFG, there is a line beginning with
> > 'mailto', which mentions paledit.  Since e-mail support is
> > removed from v2.1 of paledit, should this line now begin with
> > ";", or should it refer to Post.exe?
>
> I think the hv.cfg line is right, but I can't swear to it since I
> haven't responded to a mailto: since upgrading to PE 2.1
>
> -PR
> ------------
>
> Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
>     *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
>    Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"
>
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:01:42 -0400
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someone suggested using a W95 laptop and I found a friend who had one
and reformatted it on it. WHEW!


On Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:37:23 -0400
allen solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET> wrote:

> with a Sandisk flash card inserted in my A: drive I thought I could
> partition it by using the FDISK100 command. Not only did it not work but
> now I can't access A: or even reformat it. :-((   (I was following the
> procedure I read about  in the PTP).  When I try to access the card I
> get the error message "invalid media type reading drive a:"
> How deep of a hole have I dug myself into?
> TIA
>
> On Mon, 2 Feb 1998 09:56:13 -0500
> Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET> wrote:
>
> > "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > Is there a way to attach/detach files with Post/LX?  I must
> > > admit, I have not thoroughly searched the manual, but I've
> > > scanned it pretty well.  Have I missed something?
> > >
> > AFAIK there's no way to attach files. You CAN send MIME-encoded
> > binaries as separate messages.  To decode binary attachments, you use
> > MIME-UUDecode from the "external" menu. ( ÝMENU¨ - x - m ).
> >
> > > Also, how do you "quote" a message in a reply?
> > >
> > If you're using PE (I assume from your next paragraph that you are...),
> > After you hit "Reply" and PE opens, hit ÝF7¨(Next), move down to the
> > text you want to quote, highlight it, hit Copy (Fn =), then hit ÝF7¨
> > again to return to the first screen, Hit Paste (Fn +), Highlight the
> > text again, and hit ÝEsc¨+.  That will mark each line with a >.
> >
> > > One last thing:  in HV.CFG, there is a line beginning with
> > > 'mailto', which mentions paledit.  Since e-mail support is
> > > removed from v2.1 of paledit, should this line now begin with
> > > ";", or should it refer to Post.exe?
> >
> > I think the hv.cfg line is right, but I can't swear to it since I
> > haven't responded to a mailto: since upgrading to PE 2.1
> >
> > -PR
> > ------------
> >
> > Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
> >     *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
> >    Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:30:17 PDT
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              Mike Joseph <hppalmtop@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Yeehaaaa,
I got my upgraded 200lx back today and it's great. I still can't get
over having over 4 meg left after having put everything back on it from
the 1 meg config.  Yes, I know those of you with the 32 meg upgrades are
chuckling but unfortunately few pastors have $500 laying around. I got
mine installed for free during their promo and so was only out $75 +
S/H.  Money well spent! The upgrade works flawlessly, there's no need
for drivers and all of the utilities that worked on the 1 meg prior work
now.
I think I'm getting blessed...........  :-)

In His Service,
Pastor Mike Gibson
revmike@iserv.net
revmike@palmtop.net
hppalmtop@hotmail.com
? What next ?


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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:12:36 -0400
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              hplx <hplx@COMPORTS.COM>
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Just to let all know, many of my files are back online.  Sorry for the
derth of files.  A new editorial and LXREF is at the URL below.
----
http://comports.com/hplx   <--old stuff is new...

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:24:09 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Longden!

Vim is now available from
        http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/vim30bin.zip
(same addr as bottom of page)

> > On the vi-front, I have obtained a copy of vim 3.0
> >         - 250K
> >         - about twice as fast as vim 4.6 (1 or 2 seconds to load)
> >         - full vi compatibilliy; word completion; multi-windows; automatic
> >                 interpretation of compiler file errors (bring up the file
> >                 in question, at the line of each error in turn).
> >         - multiple-undo


> I would like to see this vim version also. Is the 250k the disk size of
> the .exe or the amount of RAM required to run?
The .exe

I can't check the run size, because it won't shell! This might be because I
have only 50k spare on the palmtop, though. However, it runs
under system manager, when I have 340K set aside for DOS.


> If I switch from being a "Calvinite" to a "vim-er", it sounds like a jump
> from a religious cult to a diet group.
:) Vim & Vigour!


--
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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
     -- Mitch Ratliffe, _Technology Review_ April, 1992

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:48:49 -0700
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              Gene Johnson <krcaddis@THEGRID.NET>
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At 10:38 AM 4/14/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Easter eggs, while sometimes kinda fun, are a waste of the tiny space
>available to us (the users) in our palmtops.
________________________________________
Phil - hope this helps deter the next programmer that thinks his gigabite
sized full motion video of him peeing on his boss who morphs an Aliens
movie character...  ( I mean "good luck!")

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:30:02 -0700
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              Gene Johnson <krcaddis@THEGRID.NET>
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I hate to bother the whole list But I'm looking for some sources to help w/
HP95 problems - my good old unit (GOU) has screen problems that can be
temporarily solved by moderate-high finger pressure on the screen, and some
other bugs - IS THERE A SITE I CAN ADDRESS specific HP95 LX QUESTIONS TO ?
...maybe this is like looking for a fix to my  c.1976 TV?
Please respond personally; I'm not looking for flames....

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:24:12 -0800
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              Bill Buzan <bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM>
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>Greetings,
>
>  A new lurker here !  Has anyone any recommendations for/against
>any PCMCIA hard drives or high-cap floppies for the 200LX? <snip>
>I suspect the amount of data I would need to access would be on the
>order of 200-300 megabytes.
>
>tnx,
>john

John,

I personally use the Avatar Shark 250 and love it nearly as much as the
200LX. I got the TransDigital parallel card and it works just great!! There
are some config things that need to be done, but nothing more than 20
minutes with instructions I can mail if you would like.

Bill Buzan

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:27:34 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Here's  another one.

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: mcecilli@yahoo.com
Subject: Sale HP 200 LX 2MB
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 17:51:42 -0600

For Sale ASAP HP 200 LX 2Mb

- Very Good Condition
- Conectivity Pack (PC/HP 200LX)
- All manuals and original software

Price: 210 $ (Shipping Included).


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Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:05:53 -0700
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> Phil - hope this helps deter the next programmer that thinks his =
gigabite
> sized full motion video of him peeing on his boss who morphs an Aliens
> movie character...  ( I mean "good luck!")

I hope NOT! The best software coming out of D&A Software is
developed ON THE PALMTOP. It is a 8mb machine with a 20mb
PCMCIA, and it also maintains plenty of private information
aside from the work stuff. I am talking of Andreas' machine.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:05:48 -0700
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> I'm curious, how much smaller would the program have been if you'd left
>  the
> Easter Eggs out?

It has bee a long time. I think the difference is less than
2.5%, probably one less cluster.

> palmtops.  Not all of us have or will get the 32Meg upgrade.  If they n
> eed to
> be included then I wish they were put in  optional files that can be de
> leted if
> space is short.

I think this overblown! We are not talking about major
galleries of doom, and hallways filled with pictures, and
programming code to make it all spin around the screen!

OTOH, the quality of the program is DEFINITELY affected by the
testing "ferocity" of the testers (and of course author). If
you give them some claim to fame, there is an encouragement
and acknowledgement, whic you as a customer and user of these
programs should also be glad is there - it helped get you a
better program.

Re 32M: At the time we were deliberating the easter egg, we
thought 2MB machines were grand, and that was it. This program
was written before anyone even dreamed of a 4mb upgrade, let
alone 8, then 32M. So we were VERY conscious about space, much
more than you give us credit for.

I am not sure you are aware of it, but our NEW WWW/LX Plus is
15K SmALLER than its predessor, yet it does a boatload more
functions. So I won't accept the criticism that we are
wastefull of memory and storage. That is simply not supported
by the facts. During the beta we shaved several K by giving up
some features. But the discussion was excruciating! It was a
major push and pull between features and space, and memory
played in there too. We probably posted over 3000 messages on
such discussions in a matter of 3-4 months (about 20 people).
That is a huge attention to details. So - nah! I reject your
criticism of wastefulness in our product.

Making it a separate file is like a cake with no sugar, no
chocolate, no sweetness, no fun. Some inventive to give to
people who volunteer their time for months!!!


  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

PS: If it really irks you, you don't have to keep ACB.EXE on
the palmtop. Set up your parameters for the TSR part via
ABC.EXE F2 configuration, then remove ABC.EXE. All will work
just fine, until such time that you want to change stuff
around again. (No, you won't be able to see the charging graph
either, but then it is much more wasteful code than the pix!
:)

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 04:31:01 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: FDISK100  SOS-- SOL is more like it...:-(

On 1998-04-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >with a Sandisk flash card inserted in my A: drive I thought I could
   >partition it by using the FDISK100 command. Not only did it not
   >work but now I can't access A: or even reformat it. :-((   (I was
   >following the procedure I read about  in the PTP).  When I try to
   >access the card I get the error message "invalid media type reading
   >drive a:" How deep of a hole have I dug myself into?

I think your out of luck. You've deleted your drive partition. You'd
need some sort of partion recovery utility that probably wouldn't work
on the LX. Sorry, I wish I had more to offer.




           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

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$225 for type3 170meg hd WITH the pcmcia card adaptor to make it work.
A/C adaptor included to supply enough current to drive the type3 hd or
any other devices that draws more than 150mA.

Southern CA only.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 08:43:10 -0400
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Fellow Palmtoppers:

     If space is a premium on your LX {insert your favorite "Easter
Egg" comment here}<vbg> and you haven't tried palmtop.com out, remember=
 its
FREE(except for phone charges). I thought I would pass this
announcement along to those who might be considering it.

******

Dear palmtop.com users:

As you may or may not know, the palmtop.com service has been
and will continue to be offered free of charge.  Those users
who signed up for paid accounts have not been charged since
early 1997 because we had only a few dozen users and never set
up a billing system.  However, many users have expressed a
willingness and even a desire to pay for the service, and
recently there has been a surge in new subscibers.

We would like to now offer the service on a basis similar to
the shareware principle used by software vendors.  You may
continue to use the service free of charge, but you may also
get additional support and services if you contribute a
one-time payment of $60 for a permanent subscription.  These
additional services include POP3 access to your palmtop.com
mailbox, allowing you to use one of any popular POP3 programs
on a PC, MAC, WinCE or Palm Pilot from your local ISP's
connection.  Other support options include domain name service,
multiple e-mail addresses and multiple mailbox destinations as
well as removal of oversized messages on request (we will
automatically remove messages of 500k or more over 15 days
old), and password change or clear on request.

If you would like to contribute to palmtop.com and receive
additional support and services, please send a check for $60
to:

Martin Paul
c/o ESP Networks
536 Weddell Dr., Suite1
Sunnyvale, CA  94089
Tel: 408-744-9141

P.S. - We will be posting our setup instructions on it's own
URL shortly - www.palmtop.com.  Currently they can be found at
www.espmail.com/palmtop.htm

*****

Cheers,
 *       ____           __      _     __    _         __
* ___ _/ / /  ___ ____/ /_    (_)   / /__ (_)__  ___/ /
*/ _ `/ / _ \/ -_) __/ __/   / /   /  '_// / _ \/ _  / TEAM
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:00:47 -0400
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Hi All,
All of a sudden, I can't seem to print with my Greenwich print adapter.  =
I
haven't used it much lately but wonder if the 2x speed or 8 meg enahnceme=
nt
has affected this?  I've checked the Settings/Printer section as well as
datacomm settings.  All appear per Greenwich instructions.  =

Is there a print driver that I perhaps need to copy into config.sys or
autoexec.bat to make this happen?
Thanks to all!
Tom in Damascus (Syria)

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:11:51 -0400
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I'm interested in purchasing a 200LX, 1 or 2 meg, for use as an extra.
If you have one to sell, please contact me.

Paul
paulmed@massmed.org

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"thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote:

> All of a sudden, I can't seem to print with my Greenwich print
> adapter. I haven't used it much lately but wonder if the 2x speed=
 or 8
> meg enahncement has affected this?  I've checked the Settings/Printer
> section as well as datacomm settings.  All appear per Greenwich
> instructions.

Hi Tom-

A couple of questions...
        Does the printer not respond at all, or does it print garbage?
        Are you trying to print from DOS apps or built-in?

If it prints garbage, either the settings are wrong (you checked this),
or the contacts on the printer connector may need cleaning (especially
if you haven't used it for awhile).  If there's no response at all from
the printer, it probably isn't getting anything from the adapter.  Does
your adapter use a battery, or is it line-powered?

If you're trying from the built-in apps, your settings should work.=

However, DOS apps need to have the port turned on and set up.  If you
use any DOS communication software, this will change the port setting.=

I launch any DOS apps that need to print with a batch file that sets
the port.  for example:

        @ECHO OFF
        SERCTL /W
        MODE COM1 96,N,8,1,P
        VDE.EXE

The serctl command turns on the wired port, and the mode command sets
the port for printing with my adapter.

One other thing that I've found is that you may need to wait until your
app is started before putting the printer on-line.  Some apps won't
start printing until they get the xon signal from the adapter.

HTH

-PR
------------

Peniel Romanelli   peniel@web2000.net   d021785c@dc.seflin.org
    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
   Miami, Florida -- Redefining the term "Political Asylum"

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I released a new LXPIC version. The new features are:

Version 6.1  -Complete command line control of LxPic
(15-APR-98)  -Command line conversion to B&W PCX with /O or /@
             -{S}ubdirectory Scan available from within LxPic...
             -...therefore Slide Show key replacement {Y}
             -Scan indicator '=19' in front of the filename
             -{Q}uit now leaves picture on the screen
             -Default palmtop startup mode reset to B&W
             -Programmers Interface improvements for HV

The important change for palmtop use is the default B&W
startup mode. I had too many complaints about unreadable
characters in this mode. But the 4-grayscale mode is not gone.
You enter it either by pressing {W} while in LXPIC, or at
startup with the command LXPIC/W

{Q}uit now leaves the image on the screen. That is, your screen
remains in graphics mode. In order to switch back the text
moded, I added the small utility 3.COM to LXPIC.ZIP

The old slide show key {S} had to be replaced by another key,
so that you can use it from the command line too. I selected
{Y} as one of the last free keys. {S} is now exclusively used
for subdirectory scan. It is also available within LXPIC as a
toggle key. This makes subdirectory scan much more comfortable.

The command line switches may be used in any order. If you want
to run LXPIC in a Win95 window on your desktop, start it like:

LXPIC/3  or  LXPIC/4

This selects standard VGA modes, available in Win95 windows.
Win3.11 only allows CGA in a window. LXPIC/1 is the solution.

Download the new version from:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/topfiles.pl
http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:40:29 -0400
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Why did HP choose to continue the 'LX' label on its latest crop of CE toys?

Doesn't LX stand for Lotus eXpandable? or something...

Also, does the serial cable for the CE devices work in the 200LX, like the
omnigo 100, HP 48, etc. cable does?

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:37:01 -0600
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Anyone try one of these on a 200LX??  The issue I see is that the
drive is spec'd with drivers for DOS 6.2 or higher.  Has anyone
experienced any driver problems with the DOS 5.0 on the 200LX?

Again, I appreciate all the help this list has provided.  tnx

john
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 11:17:16 -0700
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, hplx wrote:

> Why did HP choose to continue the 'LX' label on its latest crop of CE toys?
>
> Doesn't LX stand for Lotus eXpandable? or something...

My first editorial dealt with exactly this subject.  Link to it at
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/ed52097.htm

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 09:45:12 -0700
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Just found this 200LX deal, for those looking for one.
Reply-To: John Marshall <johnm@REMOVEdeverse.com>


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: John Marshall <johnm@REMOVEdeverse.com>
Subject: FS:HP 200LX palmtop
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:53:47 -0800

Selling a new condition HP200LX palmtop, 1Mb model, with serial connectivi=
ty
pack, software etc.

Both are as-new, in boxes with manuals. They're in perfect condition, and =
have
not really been used. They were bought for a development project that was
cancelled, and hence have not been carried in my pocket for 2 years nor =
dropped.

$220 the pair.

email address needs a modification to work.

Located in SF Bay Area ( south )


John Marshall

--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Just found this 100LX deal, for those looking for one.

Reply-To: "Dale Richmond" <dalerich@harborcom.net>


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From: "Dale Richmond" <dalerich@harborcom.net>
Subject: F.S. HP100 LX with extras
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 19:00:33 -0400

I would like to sell my HP 100LX.  It has seen very little use since I
upgraded to a 200LX approx. one month after purchase.  I have a 5MB HP =
flash
card w Stacker 3.0 installed and the HP AC adapter.  All original manuals
and packaging that came with a new 100LX are also included.  This machine =
is
like new!
I would like to get approximately $200 for the package
Dale Richmond




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I've added a small DOSShell tutorial to my webpage, http://sac.uky.edu/~wally

Let me know what you think, or if it helped you out!

Thanks!

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:12:34 -0400
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Subject:      ANN: LXPIC 6.1

I released a new LXPIC version. The new features are:

Version 6.1  -Complete command line control of LxPic
(15-APR-98)  -Command line conversion to B&W PCX with /O or /@
             -{S}ubdirectory Scan available from within LxPic...
             -...therefore Slide Show key replacement {Y}
             -Scan indicator ' ' in front of the filename
             -{Q}uit now leaves picture on the screen
             -Default palmtop startup mode reset to B&W
             -Programmers Interface improvements for HV

The important change for palmtop use is the default B&W
startup mode. I had too many complaints about unreadable
characters in this mode. But the 4-grayscale mode is not gone.
You enter it either by pressing {W} while in LXPIC, or at
startup with the command LXPIC/W

{Q}uit now leaves the image on the screen. That is, your screen
remains in graphics mode. In order to switch back the text
moded, I added the small utility 3.COM to LXPIC.ZIP

The old slide show key {S} had to be replaced by another key,
so that you can use it from the command line too. I selected
{Y} as one of the last free keys. {S} is now exclusively used
for subdirectory scan. It is also available within LXPIC as a
toggle key. This makes subdirectory scan much more comfortable.

The command line switches may be used in any order. If you want
to run LXPIC in a Win95 window on your desktop, start it like:

LXPIC/3  or  LXPIC/4

This selects standard VGA modes, available in Win95 windows.
Win3.11 only allows CGA in a window. LXPIC/1 is the solution.

Download the new version from:

http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/topfiles.pl
http://home.t-online.de/home/stefan.peichl

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 21:38:53 +0200
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              Laust Brock-Nannestad <di970225@DIKU.DK>
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, hplx wrote:

> Why did HP choose to continue the 'LX' label on its latest crop of CE toys?
>
> Doesn't LX stand for Lotus eXpandable? or something...

Yes, but if you have a well-known (and popular) name why change it?

> Also, does the serial cable for the CE devices work in the 200LX, like the
> omnigo 100, HP 48, etc. cable does?

The 200's serial cable doesn't work with the HP48 as the HP48's is
non-standard and much more primitive (only four pins). The 95LX and HP48
use the same serial cable, though.


Regards,

Laust
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 12:31:02 -0700
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              "Eric C. Thompson" <ect@TELEPORT.COM>
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Another option: I just ran across a new drive from Addonics called the
"PocketZIP PCMCIA Drive".  It's listed for $239 in the Global computers
catalog.  http://www.globalcomputer.com/

I have not tried this drive but it looks pretty interesting.  If anyone
tried this out maybe they could let me know how it works?

        - Eric

>>----------
>>From:         Bill BuzanÝSMTP:bbuzan@VENUS.SUPERSTORE.COM¨
>>Sent:         Wednesday, April 15, 1998 9:24 PM
>>To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
>>Subject:      Re: 200LX and hard/floppy drives
>>
>>>Greetings,
>>>
>>>  A new lurker here !  Has anyone any recommendations for/against
>>>any PCMCIA hard drives or high-cap floppies for the 200LX? <snip>
>>>I suspect the amount of data I would need to access would be on the
>>>order of 200-300 megabytes.
>>>
>>>tnx,
>>>john
>>
>>John,
>>
>>I personally use the Avatar Shark 250 and love it nearly as much as the
>>200LX. I got the TransDigital parallel card and it works just great!! There
>>are some config things that need to be done, but nothing more than 20
>>minutes with instructions I can mail if you would like.
>>
>>Bill Buzan
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:

> The 200's serial cable doesn't work with the HP48 as the HP48's is
> non-standard and much more primitive (only four pins). The 95LX and HP48
> use the same serial cable, though.

Actually, the CPACK comes with an adapter to plug onto the end of the
200LX cable so you can use it with an HP48.  The serial port on the 48
series is standard, just slow (9600 bps max).

The regular 200LX cable, without the adapter, cannot be used with the 48,
of course.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 13:11:47 -0700
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I have been having trouble connecting to the site

http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/vin30bin.zip

does anyone have an alternative site to find this file?

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 22:50:24 +0200
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Claud G. Cameron wrote:

> I have been having trouble connecting to the site
>
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/vin30bin.zip
>
> does anyone have an alternative site to find this file?

I found this with FTP Search:

ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/.15/unixfreeware/editors/vim/pc/vim30bin.zip

(but I haven't downloaded it yet, so I'm not sure if it is the same - no
reason why it shouldn't be, though.)

Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:02:22 +0200
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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote:
>
> > The 200's serial cable doesn't work with the HP48 as the HP48's is
> > non-standard and much more primitive (only four pins). The 95LX and HP48
> > use the same serial cable, though.

> Actually, the CPACK comes with an adapter to plug onto the end of the
> 200LX cable so you can use it with an HP48.

I didn't know that. Actually, I don't have a cable for my 200LX, but make
due with the infrared port instead (I connect the LX to a Digital laptop
and can manage to get zmodem running at 38400bps from the built-in comms
program. Any higher and it refuses.)

> The serial port on the 48 series is standard, just slow (9600 bps max).

I knew that, I was talking about the cable. I've often praised HP for
including Xmodem and Kermit - being able to put the HP48 in Kermit "Server
mode" makes multiple file transfers _so_ much easier and standard I/O is
much easier (pretty much any terminal program will do) to deal with. It is
a shame it is so slow, though.


Regards,

Laust

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 14:51:38 -0700
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David Runge@AIRTOUCH
04/16/98 02:51 PM


Hi folks,

Overall, I am very pleased with my 8mb 2x HP200LX.  However, when using the
TREMM driver (version 1.2e) to provide expanded memory to Lotus Agenda v
2.0, I can't get the program to use more than 592k EMS (224k for data and
368k for program use).  This, despite the fact I have 300 16k EMS pages
available.  The Lotus Agenda EMS usage info comes from the F10 Utilities
Customize Memory Usage command.  The amount of expanded memory I have
specified for Agenda to use (if available) is 1280k.

My CONFIG.SYS, in the bare bones state, which produced the results above
is:

device=c:\system\spd31.sys
device=c:\system\tremm.sys
shell=d:\dos\command.com /e:512 /p
files=40
buffers=6
lastdrive=f
stacks=0,0

No AUTOEXEC.BAT used during testing.

What's more, the amount of expanded memory Lotus Agenda is able to use is
reduced to 544k (176k for data and 368k for program) when the conventional
memory decreases by loading my standard configuration.  My standard
configuration includes drivers/ programs which consist of acecard3.com,
acedrv.sys, battman.exe, andrew.com, and software carousel.

If I can get Agenda to use more expanded memory it will improve the speed
and I wouldn't have to worry so much about the size of my data file.

Any help would be appreciated.

David Runge
714.222.7428

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:22:09 +0100
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           Hello!

           Recently I  downloaded the  demo-version of  WWW/LX.  I
       like it  very much.  In fact,  I've seen  the beauty before
       (with HTML-viewer), but now I see the speed too. But, there
       is a  problem with  connection. My  provider has  4 dial-in
       lines; I  manage to  connect to  three of  them, but to the
       fourth I  can't. Furthermore,  when I  try  to,  the  whole
       system of my provider gets blocked and 30 users who logged-
       in on that number get disconnected. The system I'm refering
       to is newer than the other three, which will be replaced by
       the time  as obsolete.  I was  invited to  come and to show
       them the  programme (WWW/LX)  so the  system administrators
       could try  to solve  the problem. They were really relieved
       when  they  discovered  that  it  had  been  an  accidental
       mistake, and  not the  act of  some naughty hacker. Can you
       help me and my provider? Thanks in advance.

           Dejan from Belgrade, Yugoslavia

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 17:38:59 -0500
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Tried to send this to someone on the list, but keep getting his e-mail
bounced back to me.  So I'll post it on the list.
     - Jim J.
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JIM JOHNSON
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To:   nestoral@email.msn.com
cc:
Subject:  Re: Tripmate  (Document link not converted)

The Tripmate uses 4 wires for connections.   It uses pin 2 for transmit
data (out of the Tripmate), pin 3 for receive data (into the Tripmate), pin
5 for ground (essential) and pin 4 for an enable signal (also essential).

OK....now...how do you connect a female DB9 connector (like the Tripmate
has) to another female DB9 connector (like the HP200LX interface cable
has)?  If you bought the HP connectivity kit, you already should have a
"null modem" male DB9 to male DB9 connector.  If you don't have one, then
you need to be handy with a soldering iron, or call around to all the
electronics shops to find a male DB9 to male DB9 null modem interface.   I
just went to Radio Shack and bought 2 male DB9 connectors and connnected
them up the following way with my soldering iron (yes, I'm a closet
engineer turned sales manager).

HPLX connector            Tripmate Connector
Pin  2 ----------------------------  Pin 3
Pin  3 ----------------------------  Pin 2
Pin  5 ----------------------------  Pin 5
Pin  4 ----------------------------  Pin 6
Pin  6 ----------------------------  Pin 4

That's all there is to it!

Now, how to get maps to calibrate.  I have a DeLorme CD ROM that is
AAAMap'N'Go for my laptop computer.  You can make maps for the HPLX using
this program and a graphics converter program.  I use the MapNGo to view a
section of map that I want.  Then use Ctrl-C to copy to the clipboard.
Then I paste this into a graphics program like Paintbrush or (in my case)
PhotoVision Pro, which is a Shareware program that I downloaded off of the
internet.   You then have to save it in PCX format, 1-bit.  The 1-bit is
VERY important!  Otherwise your image will appear as garbage.  Then you
download this to your HPLX via Transfile or some other file transfer
program.  You have to go into the LXGPS program to choose the PCX file that
you want to view using "Settings", "File" and then choose the PCX file that
you have on your HPLX.

Oops...forgot the calibration info.  DeLorme has this neat feature that
puts latitude and longitude notes right on your map BEFORE you save it to
the clipboard.  They appear as minor annoyances on your maps, but are worth
the effort to allow you to calibrate your maps.  When you first pull up the
PCX file when running LXGPS, it will ask you to calibrate the map using the
lat/long points on the map.  (You also may have to "invert" the map too, to
make it  appear black on white).  After you calibrate point 1 and point 2,
press F9 for save and press F10 for done.

Now I've assumed all along that you've got the program to run on your HPLX
and you're just musing on how to get it to interface to the Tripmate.  Is
that true?   If so, the instructions noted above should get you up and
running.

I'm going to LA in a week.  I've created alot of maps to take with me for
the LA area and I'm going to try it on the plane while I'm flying.  Should
be a blast!

Let me know if you have any problems.  I'll offer more help where needed.
Good Luck!
Jim Johnson
Carmel, Indiana
e-mail:  jjohnson@tmcc.com

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:14:58 -0400
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Hi all,
I acquired a used copy of the Timeline 3.0 project mgmt software
at a thrift store for a couple of bucks, and it works great
(better than the MSPROJ40 file I tried recently, which I find
not as functional).  One problem: I am missing some referenced
programs (in the very good help file) which allow exporting and
importing to/from Lotus spreadsheets and dBase files.  That would
allow me to up/download planning data between Timeline on the
200lx and MS Project for Windows on my work PC.  Would anyone
of you have those files by any chance?  Thanks!
        --Robert

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:24:49 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: Why LX?
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.HPP.3.95.980416213633.9053A-100000@hler.diku.dk> from
              "Laust Brock-Nannestad" at Apr 16, 98 09:38:53 pm
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> > Why did HP choose to continue the 'LX' label on its latest crop of CE toys?
>
> The 200's serial cable doesn't work with the HP48 as the HP48's is
> non-standard and much more primitive (only four pins). The 95LX and HP48
> use the same serial cable, though.

Doesn't it come with a little adapter?

--
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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 11:26:26 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Subject:      Re: VIM30bin.zip
In-Reply-To:  <3.0.5.32.19980416131147.00793890@popd.ix.netcom.com> from "Claud
              G. Cameron" at Apr 16, 98 01:11:47 pm
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>
> I have been having trouble connecting to the site
>
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/vin30bin.zip
Terribly sorry; I was sure I cut and pasted; but a spelling error has
somehow crept in!

This works (from my machine, anyway :) )
        http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren/vim30bin.zip


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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 20:44:00 -0700
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From:         "A. Meshar" <sponsor@FTEL.NET>
Subject:      Re: Connecting by WWW/LX
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Dejan,

Hi, I am Avi Meshar. I am the president of D&A Software Inc. I
have something similar with Earthlink in the US. In urban
centers where they have multiple numbers, there are scattered
numbers that simply do not work. This is true for 2 of 4
numbers in NY City, 1 out three in West Los Angeles, perhaps
others, but I have not tried.

I believe that some of these servers may have server software
on them that is not standard TCP/IP. There is at least one
such documented server that we diagnosed in detail. We can
sometimes "swallow" some of the packets they dish out, but not
always.

Further I doubt that there is anything we can do in the
program to kill a server. If that is the case, they should
throw away that software as worthless!

If you wish some specific assistance, please write to us at
support@dasoft.com. I will follow here as well, so it is your
choice where to post, really.

Very interesting post you made. Thank you.

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

>            Hello!
>
>            Recently I  downloaded the  demo-version of  WWW/LX.  I
>        like it  very much.  In fact,  I've seen  the beauty before
>        (with HTML-viewer), but now I see the speed too. But, there
>        is a  problem with  connection. My  provider has  4 dial-in
>        lines; I  manage to  connect to  three of  them, but to the
>        fourth I  can't. Furthermore,  when I  try  to,  the  whole
>        system of my provider gets blocked and 30 users who logged-
>        in on that number get disconnected. The system I'm refering
>        to is newer than the other three, which will be replaced by
>        the time  as obsolete.  I was  invited to  come and to show
>        them the  programme (WWW/LX)  so the  system administrators
>        could try  to solve  the problem. They were really relieved
>        when  they  discovered  that  it  had  been  an  accidental
>        mistake, and  not the  act of  some naughty hacker. Can you
>        help me and my provider? Thanks in advance.
>
>            Dejan from Belgrade, Yugoslavia
>
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              David Lawrence <katana@CLEAR.NET.NZ>
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Subject:      Re: FDISK100  SOS-- SOL is more like it...:-(
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> On 1998-04-15 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>    >with a Sandisk flash card inserted in my A: drive I thought I could
>    >partition it by using the FDISK100 command. Not only did it not
>    >work but now I can't access A: or even reformat it. :-((   (I was
>    >following the procedure I read about  in the PTP).  When I try to
>    >access the card I get the error message "invalid media type reading
>    >drive a:" How deep of a hole have I dug myself into?
>
 A friend of mine has had a bad time with an Ace card, 80meg, or so
he thought! It was of course a 40meg with stacker. It cost him a big
bag of NZ currency, and when it died late last year after 7 or 8 months
usage, he tried to contact ace, no go, shier, no go, usegroups, no go.

As the card was manufactured by IBM japan, i suggested ringing their
bell and not letting go until he had an answer.

Four and a half months later, he receives a brand new IBM 40meg card,
a bubble-wrap, and a single page leaflet endorsing IBM PC cards.

Inserting the new card in his std 2meg 200LX gave him the "invalid
media type reading drive a:" etc...

So he called me and I looked at the card, dos (on the palmtop) would
not recognize the card, and the filer in sysmanager was equally stumped.
I tried fdisk100, but it gave an error message. I think it was something
like,
"Drive A: 40.5meg, invalid drive media, fdisk terminating...

I tried it again, and eventhough giving the same error message it gave the
option of going ahead and fdisking the second time. I said go and it did.

Formatting took many times as long as I thought, nearly 10 minutes! But
after all that time, the card is now fine, i checked it with writes and
reads
and reboots and whatever, no problems.

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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1998 23:25:16 -0700
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              larry soo <lhsoo@OFF-ROAD.COM>
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Bill Buzan wrote:

Ýsnip¨

>I personally use the Avatar Shark 250 and love it nearly as
>much as the 200LX. I got the TransDigital parallel card and
>it works just great!! There are some config things that need
>to be done, but nothing more than 20 minutes with
>instructions I can mail if you would like.

Bill, what do you use to power the Shark?  Since the HP has no mouse or
keyboard port, I'm really curious.


...lars

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 04:58:32 -0400
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              Irene Moore & Tom Lohre <moorei@EMAIL.UC.EDU>
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Dear Group,
        It there anyway to tranfer comma delimited files into the "Database"
program on the 200LX?
        Thanks for the advice in advance. This is the greatest List I have
seen yet!

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 05:51:37 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      FS: Visual Basic for DOS Professional   Version 1.00 (fwd)
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For those of you interested in Visual Basic...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 16:41:40 -0700
From: "Brian P. Wilson" <bwilsonxyz@seanet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: FS: Visual Basic for DOS Professional   Version 1.00

If you are interested in this package, make me an offer.  The disks and
manuals are
still sealed in the original plastic.

Brian
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 12:33:32 -0400
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Peniel and Fellow Listers,
Thanks for the rapid response.  Let me answer your questions.
The printer (Desk Jet 310) just spits out  blank sheets continuously.
The "hourglass" icon on the screen in Memo does not go off.   =

If I try Cntrl Break, it does not kill the hourglass (although it did in
the past).
I can't even leave the application, neither Off nor Cntrl Alt Del work
either.  I have to =

Contrl Shift On (no) to get  out of the hourglass non-print mode.  Very
weird.

I also looked at Setting - Printing and all is correct there.  Then I
looked at =

Settings - Comm.  Comm 1 is enabled.  I also noticed that the IO Address
was 0000 =

as was the Interupt. (I admit I no have no idea what these do.)  So I tri=
ed
a few different =

ones but still could not print and still had the results above.

I am completely stumped not to mention completely frustrated.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 09:55:19 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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For all you Word 5.0 DOS users. Hope you find it useful


--- begin of forwarded message ---

And now for today's news...

MICROSOFT SAYS WINDOWS HAS "MINOR" Y2K ISSUES
http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/news?ID=3D980416144038

Find File function won't accurately sort by date after 1999; Word 5.0
for DOS will crash completely.


PANASONIC PORTABLE WEIGHS IN AT 2.2 POUNDS
http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/news?ID=3D980416123355

Powerful handheld PC boasts 120-MHz Pentium MMX chip, 1.6GB hard
drive; starts at $1999.

--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 16:57:43 +0100
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PalDRAW 1.03 now available
--------------------------

We have released a new version of PalDRAW. It is available for downloads at our
web site, and in Compuserve HPHAND forum.

It is free for registered users of version 1.00. Registered users of version 1.00
just will continue using the same registration code.

* Improvements in 1.03 :
------------------------

The version 1.03 fixes some problems reported by some users last months:

     * PalDRAW 1.00 was non stable with some drawings containing Icons. FIXED.
     * The information 'G' and 'R' was wrong when the regeneration was stopped. FIXED.
     * PalDRAW can be now be run in Desktop PC's.

No other problems was reported and found in PalDRAW 1.00. In addition, PalDRAW
1.03 now uses the last PAL library available, 1.6, which provides some extra
functionality mostly used in dialog boxes.

We have moved
-------------

PalDRAW www site now moved to other server.

We have moved the WWW site from CompuServe to Geocities, so our site address is
now:

    http://www.geocities.com/~aroch

Update your bookmark or favorites, references or site information to contain the
new address. The previous one (in CompuServe) will be disabled soon.

We have changed our e-mail address too, our new one is:

    aroch@altavista.net

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:01:51 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Just playing around with the built-in database; it seemed to me that
you should be able to create your own datacard and layout of fields
for data entry .... and, of course, you can!

        The create/modify database in the FILE menu (in the database)
                allows this;
        Edit the datacard (under F5 for subset) modifies how and what
                the datacard displays.


It reminds me a lot of Apple Macintosh Hypercard, and some of the forms
controls for html. You can move radio buttons, check buttons,
text/time/data/number etc fields around and resize them. Also multiple pages.

Quite amazing, really. I've had the thing for over a year now, and there's
still stuff to find...!

I'd call it an Easter Egg, except
        (a) It's really useful, and
        (b) It wasn't really hidden  :)



It also seems that you should be able to change the little icon that
appears in the datacard; but I haven't worked this out yet.

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 21:40:30 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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> Just playing around with the built-in database;

The database is my favorite app on the palmtop. You can also embed pictures in
the Datacard using ipex strings. You can see this in action in my hambands
database. (SUPER Site)

The one thing I really haven't tapped into in a big way are the SSL statements
that you can use to customize subsets. Does anyone know of a good text
reference out there on SSL that can be converted to GDB format? :)

> It also seems that you should be able to change the little icon that
> appears in the datacard; but I haven't worked this out yet.

Easy. Just drop an icon of the same name of the database in its directory and
it will change when you start it up. (Example: flags.gdb and flags.icn...) Also
works with NDB and PDB files.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:53:45 +1200
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> From: Mitchell B. Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Power of LX database
> Date: Saturday, 18 April 1998 13:40
>
> > Just playing around with the built-in database;
>
> The database is my favorite app on the palmtop. You can also embed
pictures in
> the Datacard using ipex strings. You can see this in action in my
hambands
> database. (SUPER Site)

Anybody know if it is possible to go over 3,500 records somehow?
I have a few databases (in dbase IV) of 12-30,000 records and using the
connectivity pack, I cannot get any more than 3,000-3500 to merge into
an LX database file before getting a memory related error...

TIA

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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1998 23:49:59 -0500
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 believe the max number of record per database is 5,000. My way around this
is to use either dBASE IV or Foxpro on my palmtop.
Tony Guzewicz

David Lawrence wrote:

> > From: Mitchell B. Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
> > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > Subject: Re: Power of LX database
> > Date: Saturday, 18 April 1998 13:40
> >
> > > Just playing around with the built-in database;
> >
> > The database is my favorite app on the palmtop. You can also embed
> pictures in
> > the Datacard using ipex strings. You can see this in action in my
> hambands
> > database. (SUPER Site)
>
> Anybody know if it is possible to go over 3,500 records somehow?
> I have a few databases (in dbase IV) of 12-30,000 records and using the
> connectivity pack, I cannot get any more than 3,000-3500 to merge into
> an LX database file before getting a memory related error...
>
> TIA
>
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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:47:45 -0400
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Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

>  believe the max number of record per database is 5,000. My way around this
> is to use either dBASE IV or Foxpro on my palmtop.
>

The other way around is to create two or more identical databases.  For my
company's quotations and jobs, I set up PROPA.GDB for customers A through L
and PROPM.GDB for Customers M through Z.  Works fine.  If the time comes when
I exceed the limits of either, I'll split again.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 06:54:01 -0400
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Brendan Macmillan wrote:

> Just playing around with the built-in database; it seemed to me that
> you should be able to create your own datacard and layout of fields
> for data entry .... and, of course, you can!
>
>         The create/modify database in the FILE menu (in the database)
>                 allows this;
>         Edit the datacard (under F5 for subset) modifies how and what
>                 the datacard displays.
>

There's almost no limit to what can be done.

I have created different databases with very different information, including
Zagat ratings, for restaurants (U.S. and foreign countries); motels/hotels;
sources of goods and services for me and for my company (car rentals, truck
towing and repair, manufacturers of the equipment which we service and repair);
customer quotations and jobs; equipment repair history for specific customers;
and the like.

Start with a blank sheet and see what can be done.  Note that you can have a
form which runs more than one page which really increases your flexibility.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:53:28 +1200
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Subject:      LX Database stuff...

   >>  believe the max number of record per database is 5,000. My way
   >>around this  is to use either dBASE IV or Foxpro on my palmtop.
   >The other way around is to create two or more identical databases.
   >For my company's quotations and jobs, I set up PROPA.GDB for
   >customers A through L and PROPM.GDB for Customers M through Z.
   >Works fine.  If the time comes when I exceed the limits of either,
   >I'll split again.
   >Joe Casey

Yup, that is the only way with the built-in HP database, to split
files over 5,000 records, but I often get frustrated waiting as
another file loads and I have to go through the open dialog and
all that tabbing & selecting stuff.

I have dbase IV but on my little 5meg card and it is a tight fit. It
does, however, have killer performance, loading my 12,500 record
simtel listing in less than 1/2 a second and searches are pretty
quick, but I long for that kind of performance with the app
running in sysmanager with full cut/copy and paste...

Perhaps the best of both worlds would be @base, for the built-in
Lotus 123 as this would allow one to read huge datasets and also
have some kind of sysmanager cut/copy and paste...

Anybody have @base running?

Comments?

David Lawrence
katana@clear.net.nz

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:39:26 -0700
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              "Gene A. Williamson" <genewill@ORDATA.COM>
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Would someone please remind me of the source and part number for the 10-pin
connector on the hp200lx serial output. Cannot locate searching the
archives; this time I *will* save it.   Thanks!

In A Word,
Gene        <genewill@ordata.com>        http://qth.com/inaword

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 11:18:33 -0400
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To the wisdom of the group...

I have a .ndb file that in the last year has become corrupted 4 times.
After using the file and coming back to my LX after a period of time, I
get the message "unable to open".

What are some of the possibilities causing this?  I actively use 7
.ndb's and 6 .gdb's with NO other file offering the same problem.  Any
suggestions?

--
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Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:14 -0700
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Mitch,

> The one thing I really haven't tapped into in a big way are the SSL =
statements
> that you can use to customize subsets. Does anyone know of a good text
> reference out there on SSL that can be converted to GDB format? :)

I have worked with SSL extensively, still do. There is no text
that I know, but I have a lot of it in my mind, ask!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:17 -0700
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> Anybody know if it is possible to go over 3,500 records somehow?
> I have a few databases (in dbase IV) of 12-30,000 records and using the
> connectivity pack, I cannot get any more than 3,000-3500 to merge into
> an LX database file before getting a memory related error...

The limit is about 5000, but it depends a lot on how many
fields you have defined. The more fields, the lower the record
limit is. I had databases over 4500 strong, but simple
records.

You can try to merge the stuff in chunks of 1000 records at a
time, closing the database after each "chunk" so it can write
and organise its index.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:21 -0700
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> Perhaps the best of both worlds would be @base, for the built-in
> Lotus 123 as this would allow one to read huge datasets and also
> have some kind of sysmanager cut/copy and paste...
>
> Anybody have @base running?
>
> Comments?

David, not a good idea. @base is great and speedy, but it is
limited by the palmtop's memory. It can keep only so many
pointers to records on the database before it runs out. You
have the following overhead: System manager (to run Lotus),
Lotus 123, and then the @base add-on.

But within the limits, it is incredibly fast. I have it and
used, it, but have not gone to large databases as you have.

Let me know if you need a copy of the software, I know where
to get it. It is still a commercial product being sold.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:16:11 -0700
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Brendan,

> Quite amazing, really. I've had the thing for over a year now, and =
there's
> still stuff to find...!
>
> I'd call it an Easter Egg, except
>         (a) It's really useful, and
>         (b) It wasn't really hidden  :)

Not idden. It is in your User Manual, in detail, and even more
information :) ... I don't think this qualifies as an Easter
egg because it is so well documented.

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:01:01 METDST
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              Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
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Subject:      SanDisk card damaged, help!

I managed to destroy all contents of my 85 Mb Flash disk
(SanDisk) in such a way that I cannot reformat even anymore.
When I try to reformat, the messages are:"
D:\DOS>format a:
Insert new disk for drive a:
and press ENTER when ready...

Format not supported on drive A:
Format terminated"

Does anyone know how I can reformat such card?

Thanks

Charles Stroom

charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
Phone: (+31)-71-565.4014 Fax: (+31)-71-565.6142

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:17:02 -0400
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              allen solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET>
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if you have or can find a laptop running W95 then you can put the
SanDisk card in the PCMCIA slot and  format it. Should work cuz W95 is
better at formatting than the HP when it comes to errors and formatting
problems (so I am told).


On Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:01:01 METDST
Charles Stroom <charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL> wrote:

> I managed to destroy all contents of my 85 Mb Flash disk
> (SanDisk) in such a way that I cannot reformat even anymore.
> When I try to reformat, the messages are:"
> D:\DOS>format a:
> Insert new disk for drive a:
> and press ENTER when ready...
>
> Format not supported on drive A:
> Format terminated"
>
> Does anyone know how I can reformat such card?
>
> Thanks
>
> Charles Stroom
>
> charles@yc.estec.esa.nl
> European Space Technology Centre, Noordwijk, the Netherlands
> Phone: (+31)-71-565.4014 Fax: (+31)-71-565.6142
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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:31:40 -0400
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From:         Longden Loo <lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: SanDisk card damaged, help!
Comments: cc: charles@YC.ESTEC.ESA.NL

   >I managed to destroy all contents of my 85 Mb Flash disk
   >(SanDisk) in such a way that I cannot reformat even anymore.
   >When I try to reformat, the messages are:"
   >D:\DOS>format a:
   >Insert new disk for drive a:
   >and press ENTER when ready...
   >Format not supported on drive A:
   >Format terminated"
   >Does anyone know how I can reformat such card?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 20:31:36 +0000
Message-ID: <19980418203134.AAA23498@Ý12.64.36.117¨>

Try running fdisk100 (on the d drive somewhere). It rebuilds the disk
partition and thus operates at a lower level than format. If fdisk100
appears to work, then retry format.

If this fails, try formatting the card on someone's notebook computer.

Good luck.

- Longden

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:25 -0400
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Re: Power of LX database
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->> The one thing I really haven't tapped into in a big way are the SSL statements
->> that you can use to customize subsets. Does anyone know of a good text
->> reference out there on SSL that can be converted to GDB format? :)

->I have worked with SSL extensively, still do. There is no text that I
->know, but I have a lot of it in my mind, ask!

How about a brief summary to the newslist before you hit my age a lose a
lot of what you keep in your mind <g>.

Jeff

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:39:36 -0500
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I have been successfully using my DeLorme Tripmate with my laptop and with
my HPLX.  All of a sudden (April 17th), it will not acquire more than 2
satellites!  Has anyone else experienced this kind of problem?  I did
install new batteries...twice!  I am getting the serial datastream from the
Tripmate.

AA Batteries:
There was a message that was posted earlier that bears repeating.   SAM'S
CLUB sells a "brick" of 40 AA Toshiba batteries (1500mAH) for $9.99.
THAT'S LESS THAN 25 CENTS A PIECE!  This is a GREAT price for AA's.   If
you consume batteries like my house does, you need to get out to Sam's and
buy a brick.

Memory Upgrade:
Lastly.....I just installed my 4Meg upgrade from MDN.  Wow!  I now have
5Meg of RAM on board.  What a difference.  And for the $75.00, it was
definately worth the cost.  But a word of caution for those folks who have
a 1Meg HPLX that needs the connector soldered onto the main board!  If you
don't have the patience of Job and the hand of a skilled heart
surgeon.....DON'T do this upgrade yourself!   Have MDN do it for you (right
now they'll do the labor for free!).   I had to take my HPLX apart 3 times
before I could get it to work.   My heart almost stopped twice before I got
it to finally work.  I guess the benefit is that I now know how to
disassemble and reassemble my HP200LX!  BTW..congratulations to MDN for the
clear instructions on how to do this upgrade.
Rgds.....Jim J.

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:11:32 -0500
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              "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
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From:         "Nestor A. Ramirez" <nestoral@EMAIL.MSN.COM>
Subject:      Re: printing problem saga
Comments: To: "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>

Tom, if you are trying to print from theHP 200LX through a Greenwich
adapter, my understanding is that the HP only drives HP LaserJets, Epson FX
and IBM Proprinters (that is, those specific FAMILIES of printers), unles
you have a driver for your Desk-Jet 310 (which sounds like an inkjet
printer).  If your printer allows emulation, it should try to emulate one of
those 3 mentioned families, otherwise, I don't think you can print directly
from the HP LX.
  Sometimes some printers have serial port capability and then you can print
with the standard connectivity Kit cable connected to Com 1, but even then
you may still find that you have driver problems. For that purpose, leave
the adress and interrupt at 0000.
I think your printer is being driven by one of the three above mentioned
drivers, and it connects to the computer, but misunderstands the signals and
thinks that a space after each word is a page break, and keeps spitting out
sheets of paper without any print.
Greetings.
Nestor A. Ramirez, MD, MPH
Medical Director, NICU
Provena Covenant Medical Center
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Urbana, IL   61801

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 17:57:26 -0500
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Did anyone here know about the hp palmtop newsgroup that ALLREADY
exists? Its is at alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp

Just thought id let you know

ctg@geocities.com

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:22:50 -0500
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At 09:16 AM 4/18/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I have worked with SSL extensively, still do. There is no text
>that I know, but I have a lot of it in my mind, ask!

I have had an HP100LX for about a year and two things still bother me:
  Queries in the database: The obly way to query the database (I realize
this aint SQL here) is to define a subselect. There is a limit to the
number of subselects you can define, and they are absolute (no replaceable
parameters. Is there any way to do a query interactively, like a find (F4)?
  Smart clip: what is the deal with this feature? As far as I can tell, it
is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
phone, notetaker, or database record?

Opinions herein are exclusively my own, unless you share them.
Kevin Calman, Austin TX USA        O-       codex@earthling.net
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2435/

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:24:13 -0400
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At 06:22 PM 4/18/98 -0500, Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET> wrote:
>  Smart clip: what is the deal with this feature? As far as I can tell, it
>is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
>different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
>phone, notetaker, or database record?

        Sure.  Just highlight a record and do a Copy (Ctrl+C) then a Paste
(Ctrl+V).  I also find the clip editting handy for formatting data for
printing.

        Chris Pimlott

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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 23:23:02 -0500
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From:         Jeff Johns <jeffj@SCOTT.NET>
Subject:      Tornado Activity

This isn't LX related but I wanted to let everyone know that here in the
southeast and here in Alabama again today we have had more tornado activity.
Since you guys and gals are kinda like my extended family I just wanted to
let everyone know that when you see or hear of tornado warnings, please take
them seriously!!!

The amount of death and destruction we have suffered here over the past
couple of weeks is unbelievable. The pictures on TV can't start to tell how
bad the destruction has been. I encourage everyone to have a bad weather
plan. I used to think this stuff was kinda 'silly', but know I'm a firm
believer in being prepared!!!

Stay safe & 73
Jefff


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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 02:03:58 -0300
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I agree, however, I've been using FoxPro for input data from a
dentistry research, because I don't know how to apply calculations
and build a report, like total of children examined, mean age, how
many male and female, average number of teeth, etc.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Nelson


> Just playing around with the built-in database; it seemed to me that
> you should be able to create your own datacard and layout of fields
> for data entry .... and, of course, you can!
>
>         The create/modify database in the FILE menu (in the database)
>                 allows this;
>         Edit the datacard (under F5 for subset) modifies how and what
>                 the datacard displays.
>
>
> It reminds me a lot of Apple Macintosh Hypercard, and some of the forms
> controls for html. You can move radio buttons, check buttons,
> text/time/data/number etc fields around and resize them. Also multiple
pages.
>
> Quite amazing, really. I've had the thing for over a year now, and
there's
> still stuff to find...!
>
> I'd call it an Easter Egg, except
>         (a) It's really useful, and
>         (b) It wasn't really hidden  :)
>
>
>
> It also seems that you should be able to change the little icon that
> appears in the datacard; but I haven't worked this out yet.
>
> --
> Brendan Macmillan
bren@cs.monash.edu.au
> Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
> A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human
> history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
>      -- Mitch Ratliffe, _Technology Review_ April, 1992
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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:32:47 -1000
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              Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
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Jeff - that's what my wife says I have the HP200LX for -- It's the brain
she's going to have emplanted in my head<grin>

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

>Date:    Sat, 18 Apr 1998 15:36:25 -0400
>From:    Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
>Subject: Re: Power of LX database
        .......snip.......
>How about a brief summary to the newslist before you hit my age a lose a
>lot of what you keep in your mind <g>.
>
>Jeff
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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1998 22:22:06 -1000
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Kevin - As I understand your question, use Ctrl-C to copy a highlighted item
and then Ctrl-V to paste the copy right back.  You now have two items that
are identical and can make minor changes to one if that's your objective.
This works with all of the data bases.

I use F4 to search for something in all of the data bases.  It's slow --
sometimes I go off and do something else waiting for it.  Or use CPACK200 on
my Pentium desktop where its fast<grin>.

I hope I've answered your questions.

Aloha - bob    \ooo_

>Date:    Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:22:50 -0500
>From:    Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET>
>Subject: Re: Power of LX database
        ......snip......
>number of subselects you can define, and they are absolute (no replaceable
>parameters. Is there any way to do a query interactively, like a find (F4)?
>  Smart clip: what is the deal with this feature? As far as I can tell, it
>is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
>different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
>phone, notetaker, or database record?
>
>Opinions herein are exclusively my own, unless you share them.
>Kevin Calman, Austin TX USA        O-       codex@earthling.net
>http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2435/
http://www.aloha.net/~bgraham

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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 10:24:04 -0500
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At 04:24 PM 4/18/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 06:22 PM 4/18/98 -0500, Kevin Calman <codex@EARTHLING.NET> wrote:
>>  Smart clip: what is the deal with this feature? As far as I can tell, it
>>is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
>>different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
>>phone, notetaker, or database record?
>
>        Sure.  Just highlight a record and do a Copy (Ctrl+C) then a Paste
>(Ctrl+V).  I also find the clip editting handy for formatting data for
>printing.
>
>        Chris Pimlott
        OK, I'll admit, it never occurred to me to try copying records from the
index view, I have always tried from the record view, where you see
smartclip (F5). Can it be done from there, too?
        How about the interactive queries, any suggestions there?
Opinions herein are exclusively my own, unless you share them.
Kevin Calman, Austin TX USA        O-       codex@earthling.net
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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:25:51 -0400
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Comments: To: Bob Graham <bgraham@ALOHA.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <199804190822.WAA12930@haleakala.aloha.net>

->I use F4 to search for something in all of the data bases.  It's slow
->--
->sometimes I go off and do something else waiting for it.  Or use
->CPACK200 on my Pentium desktop where its fast<grin>.

I know this is not an inexpensive solution but it is worth publicizing.
An unbelievable side effect of my getting Baggette's double speed 32 MB
upgrade has been the speed.  It has to be seen to be believed.

My pet peeve with the LX has always been its slowness.  No more.  Searches
by initial letter in large databases take no time at all.  Sometimes they
are almost instantaneous.  I was typing on WP 5.1 on my LX and I had a
different kind of problem.  Too much speed!  Example:  when I used
backspace delete because I typed something wrong I inadvertantly deleted
several lines before I took my finger off it.  The kind of problem I have
on my Pentium.

Well, I am exaggerating somewhat, but it is true that I several times
deleted 1-2 lines when meaning to delete 2-3 words.  Same thing but more
annoying was the use of the left arrow to navigate.  I had to go back to
using "Ctrl-L arrow" to go back one word at a time with more control.
True!

Thought I would mention this because the speed advantage in the upgrade
has not been emphasized enough.

Jeff.

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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:44:30 -0400
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              Jim Saklad <jsaklad@WELCHLINK.WELCH.JHU.EDU>
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> I use F4 to search for something in all of the data bases.  It's slow --
> sometimes I go off and do something else waiting for it.

This is a feature that runs SIGNIFICANTLY faster on a double-speed unit,
and also if the database in question is in RAM (be that 1, 2, 4, 8, or
32MB) than if it is on a Flashcard.

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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 18:20:23 -0400
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On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Carpman wrote:
>
> Did anyone here know about the hp palmtop newsgroup that ALLREADY
> exists? Its is at alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
>
> Just thought id let you know

Actually, No!  Thanks a lot for the tip.

By the way, I've tried the IRC channel you set up quit often, but I never
see anyone on it.  Is there a better time to try it?


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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 20:44:50 -0500
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David Kramer wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Carpman wrote:
> >
> > Did anyone here know about the hp palmtop newsgroup that ALLREADY
> > exists? Its is at alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
> >
> > Just thought id let you know
>
> Actually, No!  Thanks a lot for the tip.
>
> By the way, I've tried the IRC channel you set up quit often, but I never
> see anyone on it.  Is there a better time to try it?
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
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um... well. School is eating up a LOT of time, and ive stopped useing
win95, im going over to FreeBSD UNIX. I try to be on around 4pm to 5pm.
CST.

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Date:         Sun, 19 Apr 1998 22:30:18 EDT
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Tom,
Try halving your baud rate. If you aren't running some patch program to do
this automatically, your baud rate went up two times.

Dennis

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 06:01:58 -0800
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On 1998-04-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >>>  believe the max number of record per database is 5,000. My way
   >>>around this  is to use either dBASE IV or Foxpro on my palmtop.
   >>The other way around is to create two or more identical databases.
   >>For my company's quotations and jobs, I set up PROPA.GDB for
   >>customers A through L and PROPM.GDB for Customers M through Z.
   >>Works fine.  If the time comes when I exceed the limits of either,
   >>I'll split again.
   >>Joe Casey
   >Yup, that is the only way with the built-in HP database, to split
   >files over 5,000 records, but I often get frustrated waiting as
   >another file loads and I have to go through the open dialog and
   >all that tabbing & selecting stuff.
   >I have dbase IV but on my little 5meg card and it is a tight fit. It
   >does, however, have killer performance, loading my 12,500 record
   >simtel listing in less than 1/2 a second and searches are pretty
   >quick, but I long for that kind of performance with the app
   >running in sysmanager with full cut/copy and paste...
   >Perhaps the best of both worlds would be @base, for the built-in
   >Lotus 123 as this would allow one to read huge datasets and also
   >have some kind of sysmanager cut/copy and paste...
   >Anybody have @base running?
   >Comments?

Hmm.. I use Foxpro and I know that it can create wk1 files.  It would
be possible to do all yer advanced database stuph in Fox/Dbase and
export to wk1 for sysmgr cut-n-paste stuph. You could automate the
whole process with Foxpro .prg files and sysmgr/Lotus macros, You may need
a lot of swing space when converting database files tho.

 There are a lot of good database programs that should be able to run on
 this guy. I remember early versions of Rbase, Data Ease, Oracle, Paradox
 and Clarion that worked on an IBM XT.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Sturgeon's Law: Ninety percent of everything is crud.

Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 07:56:00 -0500
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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> I have a .ndb file that in the last year has become corrupted 4 times.
> After using the file and coming back to my LX after a period of time, I
> get the message "unable to open".
>
> What are some of the possibilities causing this?  I actively use 7
> .ndb's and 6 .gdb's with NO other file offering the same problem.  Any
> suggestions?
>

Have you tried to start fresh with a new database, them merge
the other older records in?   You can create a new database
from File...New.  This will be an empty database.  Then merge
records from the old database into the new one.

Good luck!

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 11:28:48 -0300
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Organization: ECOLOGICA
Subject:      Re: Emali stalls - again  8-(
Comments: To: "MK Projetos e Construgues Ltda." <pmar@FT.COM.BR>
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You may set your mailer to filter and you will receive only the
topics that you want. BTW  give a look to the message repository
that holds in hypertext all messages sent.


> i am new in your team. i have a hp 200 lx. what about creating a group for
> every kind or model of palmtop? . in less than a month i got more than 1000
> messages and only 10 percent are usefull.
ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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I recently acquired my second HP200LX. It's a little bigger than its
brother in that it's the 2MB model. Anyway, I used the IR port to
transfer files from the old one to the new one, which worked pretty
slick. The only thing I had a problem with was transferring the
appointment book over. I tried transferring both the apptbk.env file and
the appt.adb file. The former goes over okay but the latter returns an
error right away.

Any ideas on why this may be happening?

Thanks,

Tom
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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Thomas C. Lange wrote:

> I recently acquired my second HP200LX. It's a little bigger than its
> brother in that it's the 2MB model. Anyway, I used the IR port to
> transfer files from the old one to the new one, which worked pretty
> slick. The only thing I had a problem with was transferring the
> appointment book over. I tried transferring both the apptbk.env file and
> the appt.adb file. The former goes over okay but the latter returns an
> error right away.

Make sure the Appt app is closed on both machines or else the appt.adb
file is still opened. That's probably likely to cause a copy error.

- Longden

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I have been using WWW/LX 2.0 for the past week and am impressed. I do =
find myself faced with two problems that maybe someone has solved:

1) My PPP connections to Netcom are sporadic. I am using the PAP/CHAP =
login script and it works only sometimes. Many times the screen gets to =
the IPCP negotiation, pauses a little too long and then quickly jumps to =
the POST/LX screen telling me that my POP host is not connected. I have =
to re-start the program and try again as it will not re-dial once this =
happens. Possibly it's my modem string. Does anyone have a good one for =
the Megahertz XJ3144?

2) I have not been able to complete a ftp download. It usually tkes 3 or =
4 tries to get the file to completely download. Once it arrives, HV opens =
up a new blank page. I tell the program to save the file, it suggests the =
correct filename and default location, but I end with a file of zero =
bytes. Anyone seeing this? Any hints on successful ftp'ing with WWW/LX?

Thanks!

Mitch
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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 14:28:39 -0700
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On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Carpman wrote:

> Did anyone here know about the hp palmtop newsgroup that ALLREADY
> exists? Its is at alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
> Just thought id let you know

Yes.  But unfortunately, that newsgroup, as well as comp.sys.palmtops, has
been almost entirely taken over by WinCE users.  (Don't forget, HP also
makes the 300LX, 320LX, 340LX Ýmysterious¨, 360LX, and 620LX.)  My
proposed newsgroup was specifically for HP's non-WinCE line.

But I figure that this mailing list ought to be sufficient.

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On Mon, 20 Apr 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> 1) My PPP connections to Netcom are sporadic. I am using the PAP/CHAP
> login script and it works only sometimes. Many times the screen gets to
> the IPCP negotiation, pauses a little too long and then quickly jumps to
> the POST/LX screen telling me that my POP host is not connected. I have
> to re-start the program and try again as it will not re-dial once this
> happens. Possibly it's my modem string. Does anyone have a good one for
> the Megahertz XJ3144?

I have this same problem when I try to connect to one of my ISP's newer
access lines.  The older, 28.8K lines work fine, but the new 56K lines
don't seem to work.  IPCP negotiation fails.  I've tried it under almost
every configuration I can think of.  So, for the moment, I've just stuck
with using the older lines.  Does Netcom have a mixture of 28.8 and 56K
lines?  That might be a reason...

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> split
> files over 5,000 records, but I often get frustrated waiting as
> another file loads and I have to go through the open dialog and
> all that tabbing & selecting stuff.

Use Buddy.  Then you can switch between data bases with two
simple keystrokes.

Notice how all of the function key labels are blank after you
press F9 to Open a new DB file?  well, Buddy allow you to
program all those formerly useless keys to point to any
spacific file or directory you want.

I can't live without Buddy because I have about 6 GDB files I
use regularly and Buddy makes switching between then VERY
easy.

Also, FASTDB.TSR speeds up the closing of a file quite a bit.


Stan

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> The limit is about 5000, but it depends a lot on how many
> fields you have defined. The more fields, the lower the record
> limit is. I had databases over 4500 strong, but simple
> records.

Actually, the limit is 5000 records no matter how many fields
in each record.  But the kicker is that a filled in notes
field takes up a record by itself.

So, a DB record without a notes field counts as 1 toward the
5000 limit, a DB record with a notes field counts as 2 toward
the 5000 limit.


Stan

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> Is there any way to do a query interactively, like a find (F4)?

Unfortunately, no.

> Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
> phone, notetaker, or database record?

Yes.  Do a Copy with Fn-equals sign) and then a Paste (fn-Plus
sign).


Stan

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 18:33:43 -0700
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First off, let me publicly give a great big 'thank you!' to Mack
of Times2Tech.  He sent me a couple plastic pieces so I can repair
an abused 100LX I recently purchased.  Now my 100LX is sporting a 2mb
motherboard from the broken unit, and thanks to Mack my friend in
England will be getting the soon-to-be-repaired 1mb 100LX!

I just posted Goin' Postal 1.06beta to the web site.  Anyone interested
can get it at http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw/

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:35:43 -0800
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On 1998-04-18 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com

snip
   >I use F4 to search for something in all of the data bases.  It's
   >slow -- sometimes I go off and do something else waiting for it.
   >Or use CPACK200 on my Pentium desktop where its fast<grin>.
   >I hope I've answered your questions.
   >Aloha - bob    \ooo_
   >>Date:    Sat, 18 Apr 1998 18:22:50 -0500
   >......snip......
snip

Have you tried global search (gs.exm) found on super? It searches all
the built in apps data files as well as ascii files in a specified
directory.It even takes wild cards for searching multiple files.  I
think it's faster than the built in apps at searching. When it finds
the item you can have launch the app and put you right at the found
item(s).  Pretty slick. The only improvement I could think of is to allow
recursive dos directory searches.

Can anyone get in touch with the author of gs.exm to explore the
possibility of adding the recursive dir feature? I know it's one of the
Japanese guys.


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On 1998-04-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Carpman wrote:
   >> Did anyone here know about the hp palmtop newsgroup that ALLREADY
   >> exists? Its is at alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp
   >> Just thought id let you know

That newsgroup contains very little useful 200lx information. It seems
mostly full of 320/620LX Windows  CE types with an occasional "200LX
for sale". It would be nice if there were a
alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp.200lx newgroup but I think this list is
better because of its spam-proof nature. The benefit of newsgroups is
the more public access and dejanews search engine type stuph.


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I use Foxpro also. It's a lot more powerful than the built in database
but much more difficult for accomplishing simple tasks. I used to
program in Foxpro and am pretty proficient in it still so, for me,
there is not better program to use. I can make it dance :-).

I suggest you pick up a Foxpro for Dos or dbase 3/4 manual. It is
completely compatible with early versions of dbase so a dbase3/3+ manual
would help.

I don't think the built in database even has relational capabilities...


On 1998-04-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >I agree, however, I've been using FoxPro for input data from a
   >dentistry research, because I don't know how to apply calculations
   >and build a report, like total of children examined, mean age, how
   >many male and female, average number of teeth, etc.
   >Any suggestions?
   >Thanks,
   >Nelson
   >> Just playing around with the built-in database; it seemed to me
   >>that  you should be able to create your own datacard and layout of
   >>fields  for data entry .... and, of course, you can!
   >>         The create/modify database in the FILE menu (in the
   >>database)                  allows this;
   >>         Edit the datacard (under F5 for subset) modifies how and
   >>what                  the datacard displays.
   >> It reminds me a lot of Apple Macintosh Hypercard, and some of the
   >>forms  controls for html. You can move radio buttons, check
   >>buttons,  text/time/data/number etc fields around and resize them.
   >Also multiple pages.
   >> Quite amazing, really. I've had the thing for over a year now, and
   >there's
   >> still stuff to find...!
   >> I'd call it an Easter Egg, except
   >>         (a) It's really useful, and
   >>         (b) It wasn't really hidden  :)
   >> It also seems that you should be able to change the little icon
   >>that  appears in the datacard; but I haven't worked this out yet.
   >> --
   >> Brendan Macmillan
   >bren@cs.monash.edu.au
   >> Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.
   >>au/~bren  A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any
   >>invention in human  history with the possible exceptions of
   >>handguns and tequila."       -- Mitch Ratliffe, _Technology
   >Review_ April, 1992 >
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 I program in Foxpro too, and I know that it's easy to relate and
compare fields, but once the LX Database is just there, it would be
nice if we could do more. I know that DBCALC (from  the
great S.U.P.E.R.) allow some math...
Thanks,
Nelson


> I use Foxpro also. It's a lot more powerful than the built in database
> but much more difficult for accomplishing simple tasks. I used to
> program in Foxpro and am pretty proficient in it still so, for me,
> there is not better program to use. I can make it dance :-).
> I suggest you pick up a Foxpro for Dos or dbase 3/4 manual. It is
> completely compatible with early versions of dbase so a dbase3/3+ manual
> would help.
> I don't think the built in database even has relational capabilities...
>
> On 1998-04-19 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
>    >I agree, however, I've been using FoxPro for input data from a
>    >dentistry research, because I don't know how to apply calculations
>    >and build a report, like total of children examined, mean age, how
>    >many male and female, average number of teeth, etc.
>    >Any suggestions?
>    >Thanks,
>    >Nelson

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:19:32 -0500
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Subject:      Email Software

I wanted to take this opportunity to brag on the Goin' Postal email program
one more time. Since WWW/LX has now been released as shareware I have had
the opportunity to try it and I must say that I'm quite impressed. My
personal observation is that it's a heck of a program, but it's BIG. The
Goin' Postal program is so tiny compared to WWW/LX. Also the ease of
installation for GP seems to be much easier, at least it was for me. Today,
in the mail, I received my user manual for Goin' Postal and boy is it ever
nifty. Rarely have I seen shareware that upon registering would allow you to
get a true manual. The manual is the same size as the LX which allows for
easy transport with the unit. Granted, Goin' Postal can't do web browsing,
but it sure is nice to click on the icon in App Manager then click the F9
button and have the program send any mail in the outbox and then connect to
the three or four different POP servers I use, pick up my mail and log off.
If all you need is lean mean email software then Goin' Postal is definately
the way to go. Of course I am kinda biased, as I helped in the initial alpha
testing but I invite you to give it a try and form your own opinion. By the
way, as I said before, WWW/LX is also awesome software. It's amazing to me
that considering that so many think DOS is dead, the amount and quality of
software from which we all have to choose. Happy palmtopping!!!

Jeff


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Did you get Fox up and running? Have not heard from you.
Steven

Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:

>  believe the max number of record per database is 5,000. My way around this
> is to use either dBASE IV or Foxpro on my palmtop.
> Tony Guzewicz
>
> David Lawrence wrote:
>
> > > From: Mitchell B. Hamm <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
> > > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: Power of LX database
> > > Date: Saturday, 18 April 1998 13:40
> > >
> > > > Just playing around with the built-in database;
> > >
> > > The database is my favorite app on the palmtop. You can also embed
> > pictures in
> > > the Datacard using ipex strings. You can see this in action in my
> > hambands
> > > database. (SUPER Site)
> >
> > Anybody know if it is possible to go over 3,500 records somehow?
> > I have a few databases (in dbase IV) of 12-30,000 records and using the
> > connectivity pack, I cannot get any more than 3,000-3500 to merge into
> > an LX database file before getting a memory related error...
> >
> > TIA
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Where can I find WWW/LX  & GP shareware?
I have read so much about both WWW and GP.
I would like to try them to decide for myself.
Thanks for your and everyone's input to this fine list.
Steven

Jeff Johns wrote:

> I wanted to take this opportunity to brag on the Goin' Postal email program
> one more time. Since WWW/LX has now been released as shareware I have had
> the opportunity to try it and I must say that I'm quite impressed. My
> personal observation is that it's a heck of a program, but it's BIG. The
> Goin' Postal program is so tiny compared to WWW/LX. Also the ease of
> installation for GP seems to be much easier, at least it was for me. Today,
> in the mail, I received my user manual for Goin' Postal and boy is it ever
> nifty. Rarely have I seen shareware that upon registering would allow you to
> get a true manual. The manual is the same size as the LX which allows for
> easy transport with the unit. Granted, Goin' Postal can't do web browsing,
> but it sure is nice to click on the icon in App Manager then click the F9
> button and have the program send any mail in the outbox and then connect to
> the three or four different POP servers I use, pick up my mail and log off.
> If all you need is lean mean email software then Goin' Postal is definately
> the way to go. Of course I am kinda biased, as I helped in the initial alpha
> testing but I invite you to give it a try and form your own opinion. By the
> way, as I said before, WWW/LX is also awesome software. It's amazing to me
> that considering that so many think DOS is dead, the amount and quality of
> software from which we all have to choose. Happy palmtopping!!!
>
> Jeff
>
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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 23:53:16 -0500
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> For all you Word 5.0 DOS users. Hope you find it useful
>
> --- begin of forwarded message ---
>
> And now for today's news...
>
> MICROSOFT SAYS WINDOWS HAS "MINOR" Y2K ISSUES
> http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/news?ID=3D980416144038
>
> Find File function won't accurately sort by date after 1999; Word 5.0
> for DOS will crash completely.
>

I changed my system date to April 18, 2001, and Word 5 ran
fine.  When I went to save a test file, the file creation date
and file revision date were both "04/18/101", but changing it
to 2001 corrected the problem, and the file saved okay.

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If Operating Systems Were Beers...

DOS Beer : Requires you to use your own can opener, and requires you toread
the directions carefully before opening the can. Originally only came in an
8-oz. can, but now comes in a 16-oz. can. However, the canis divided into 8
compartments of 2 oz. each, which have to be accessed separately. Soon to be
discontinued, although a lot of people are going to keep drinking it after
it's no longer available.

Windows 3.1 Beer: The world's most popular. Comes in a 16-oz. can thatlooks a
lot like Mac Beer's. Requires that you already own a DOS Beer.Claims that it
allows you to drink several DOS Beers simultaneously, but in reality you can
only drink a few of them, very slowly, especially slowly if you are drinking
the Windows Beer at the sametime. Sometimes, for apparently no reason, a can
of Windows Beer will explode when you open it..

Windows 95 Beer: You can't buy it yet, but a lot of people have taste-tested
it and claim it's wonderful. The can looks a lot like MacBeer's can, but
tastes more like Windows 3.1 Beer. It comes in 32-oz.cans, but when you look
inside, the cans only have 16 oz. of beer inthem. Most people will probably
keep drinking Windows 3.1 Beer untiltheir friends try Windows 95 Beer and say
they like it. The ingredients list, when you look at the small print, has some
of thesame ingredients that come in DOS beer, even though the manufacturer
claims that this is an entirely new brew.

Windows NT Beer: Comes in 32-oz. cans, but you can only buy it by
thetruckload. This causes most people to have to go out and buy bigger
refrigerators. The can looks just like Windows 3.1 Beer's, but the company
promises to change the can to look just like Windows 95 Beer's- after Windows
95 beer starts shipping. Touted as an "industrial strength" beer, and
suggested only for use in bars.

Mac Beer: At first, came only a 16-oz. can, but now comes in a 32-oz.can.
Considered by many to be a "light" beer. All the cans look identical. When you
take one from the fridge, it opens itself. Theingredients list is not on the
can. If you call to ask about the ingredients, you are told that "you don't
need to know." A notice on the side reminds you to drag your empties to the
trashcan.

OS/2 Beer: Comes in a 32-oz can. Does allow you to drink several DOSBeers
simultaneously. Allows you to drink Windows 3.1 Beersimultaneously too, but
somewhat slower. Advertises that its canswon't explode when you open them,
even if you shake them up. You neverreally see anyone drinking OS/2 Beer, but
the manufacturer(International Beer Manufacturing) claims that 9 million six-
packshave been sold.

Unix Beer: Comes in several different brands, in cans ranging from 8oz. to 64
oz. Drinkers of Unix Beer display fierce brand loyalty, eventhough they claim
that all the different brands taste almost identical.Sometimes the pop-tops
break off when you try to open them, so you haveto have your own can opener
around for those occasions, in which caseyou either need a complete set of
instructions, or a friend who hasbeen drinking Unix Beer for several years.

AmigaDOS Beer: The company has gone out of business, but their recipehas been
picked up by some weird German company, so now this beer will be an import.
This beer never really sold very well because the original manufacturer didn't
understand marketing. Like Unix Beer,AmigaDOS Beer fans are an extremely loyal
and loud group. It originally came in a 16-oz. can, but now comes in 32-oz.
cans too.When this can was originally introduced, it appeared flashy and
colorful, but the design hasn't changed much over the years, so it appears
dated now. Critics of this beer claim that it is only meant for watching TV
anyway.

VMS Beer: Requires minimal user interaction, except for popping thetop and
sipping. However cans have been known on occasion to explode, or contain
extremely un-beer-like contents.



Found at:
Jagiellonian University Faculty of Chemistry Home Page--MICROSOFT CLUB
http://www.ch.uj.edu.pl/msfc/

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Sorry to revisit this problem but I didn't take much notice of the prior
answers to this problem as I thought it would never happen to me (forgot
about the possibility of a 3 year old jumping on it)!

Anyway I now have a cracked hinge (on the palmtop) and was wondering if
anyone has had any success gluing it back together. If so, what type of
adhesive did you use?

If not, what other alternatives are there?

An excellent newsgroup!! Congratulations everyone.

Regards

Greg Dwyer (gdwyer@melbpc.org.au)
Melbourne, Australia

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 01:22:40 EDT, you wrote:

>Windows 95 Beer: You can't buy it yet, but a lot of people have =
taste-tested
>it and claim it's wonderful. The can looks a lot like MacBeer's can, but


Agh! Its a joke with a Y2k problem! What happened to Win98 beer or
WinNT5 beer?

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Those are the sites:
WWW/LX: http://www.dasoft.com/
Going Posta: http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw/

> Where can I find WWW/LX  & GP shareware?
> I have read so much about both WWW and GP.
> I would like to try them to decide for myself.
> Thanks for your and everyone's input to this fine list.
> Steven
>

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:51:25 -0700
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Jeff:

> ->I have worked with SSL extensively, still do. There is no text that I
> ->know, but I have a lot of it in my mind, ask!
>
> How about a brief summary to the newslist before you hit my age a lose =
a
> lot of what you keep in your mind <g>.

No fear of that. But it will take too much time (which I do
not have) to make a list, summary whatever. I would suggest to
try stuff out and ask if you get stuck.

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Date:         Mon, 20 Apr 1998 22:51:28 -0700
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> I have had an HP100LX for about a year and two things still bother me:
>   Queries in the database: The obly way to query the database (I =
realize
> this aint SQL here) is to define a subselect. There is a limit to the
> number of subselects you can define, and they are absolute (no replaceab=
le
> parameters. Is there any way to do a query interactively, like a find =
(F4)?

Not interactive. You can make some changes using system
macros. Example: I have a macro that selects the current to do
items which are open, plus all open items whose date falls
between January 1, 1900 (yes, old stuff...) and two weeks from
today. I have the macro use the calculator in Date mode to
calculate the date 2 weeks from now, then go into the
database, edit the SSL, changing the end date to the
calculated date. Then save and make it happen! This macro is
quite elaborate, but it works like magic.

>   Smart clip: what is the deal with this feature? As far as I can tell, =
it
> is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
> different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) =
a
> phone, notetaker, or database record?

Maybe, but I also do product sales reports, invoices, customs
forms and a myriad of other items. It is powerful and useful.
Also, it can generate a comma delimited file for you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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     Hi!
     I used LOCTITE 495 Super glue. I also took the right end cap off and
     put half of one trop of sowing machine oil on the metal pin hinge.
     Before I put the oil on it would break again and again. but not since
     the oil treatment. Make sure the super glue is on both sides of the
     break and than open the palmtop all the way lay it face down and put a
     little weight on top to force the break closed for a least a half hour
     and you should be OK. hope it works.


     Helmut in Colorado


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Author:  Non-HP-gdwyer (gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU) at HP-ColSprings,mimegw1
Date:    4/20/98 11:21 PM


Sorry to revisit this problem but I didn't take much notice of the prior
answers to this problem as I thought it would never happen to me (forgot
about the possibility of a 3 year old jumping on it)!

Anyway I now have a cracked hinge (on the palmtop) and was wondering if
anyone has had any success gluing it back together. If so, what type of
adhesive did you use?

If not, what other alternatives are there?

An excellent newsgroup!! Congratulations everyone.

Regards

Greg Dwyer (gdwyer@melbpc.org.au)
Melbourne, Australia

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I would like some information on the Services that Mack of Tech2Times
has to offer for a 100LX.
I am wondering if I should get a 200LX. What are the outstanding
differences ?

User background;
Got a 95LX in '92
Got a 100LX in '94, plus a  few 1Mb PCMCIAs
Buddy software from Jeff Mattox introduced a big improvement in the
convenience of the HPLXs.

User Requirements:
I use it every day, everywhere. It replaces all other diaries, memos,
scraps of paper etc. It contains the full phone books for all the
companies I work with. If I loose it, well it only a piece of hardware.
All the data is on the PC so I just replace the hardware through my all
risks insurance.

Through this excellent group I am reading about some substantial
increases in response time from the HPLXs, which I could do with. Mack
of Tech2Times seems to be at the center of much of it. BTW, couldn't
find Tech2Times on the WWW.  Yes, I am mew to the group.

>----------
>From:  Steven LawsonÝSMTP:stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM¨
>Sent:  21 April 1998 02:33
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Thanks to Mack and GP update
>
>First off, let me publicly give a great big 'thank you!' to Mack
>of Times2Tech.  He sent me a couple plastic pieces so I can repair
>an abused 100LX I recently purchased.  Now my 100LX is sporting a 2mb
>motherboard from the broken unit, and thanks to Mack my friend in
>England will be getting the soon-to-be-repaired 1mb 100LX!
>
>I just posted Goin' Postal 1.06beta to the web site.  Anyone interested
>can get it at http://home.earthlink.net/~sdlsaginaw/
>
>Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) REGISTERED
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     With the discussion of Palmtop.com offering cc:mail for
palmtop users, I thought I might give it a try, but my 200LX
doesn't present a way to start cc:Mail.

     According to the User's Guide, I should be able to press
<&> then <I> to start the program, but that only opens Quicken.
In fact, the list in More Applications does not include an
application titled Quicken, but shows cc:Mail as the
application mapped to the Quicken key.

     There is no way to edit the entry as the fields are
grayed out, so how *do* I get into cc:Mail?

Alan

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I purchased a cell phone yesterday.  While I was in the showroom, I
wandered over to the shelf to examine a data interface card (I have
no need at the present for such capability, was just curious). I
noticed that they sold the data interface card (Type II) for $399!
Wow... This is big bucks for a digital modem (the phone is an
Erricson digital cell phone).  I thought that having communications
systems go digital would make the prices for this kind of interface
equipment go *down", not up!  I paid less than $200 for my analog
XJ1144 modem when it was relatively new, and I can get one for less
than $50 now.  But $400 for a modem!?!?!?!  I'm just flabbergasted.

What's happening here? Am I missing something important (it wouldn't
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Thanks to everyone who helped on my problem. Yes, I didn't have the
application closed. As soon as I did, it worked just fine.

Tom
--
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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Alan Striegel wrote:

>      With the discussion of Palmtop.com offering cc:mail for
> palmtop users, I thought I might give it a try, but my 200LX
> doesn't present a way to start cc:Mail.
>
>      According to the User's Guide, I should be able to press
> <&> then <I> to start the program, but that only opens Quicken.
> In fact, the list in More Applications does not include an
> application titled Quicken, but shows cc:Mail as the
> application mapped to the Quicken key.
>
>      There is no way to edit the entry as the fields are
> grayed out, so how *do* I get into cc:Mail?

If you got this palmtop from someone else, maybe the keys were re-mapped?

So what happens if you just highlight the ccMail icon and just press
enter?

- Longden

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Longden Loo wrote:
>If you got this palmtop from someone else, maybe the keys were re-mapped?

>So what happens if you just highlight the ccMail icon and just press
>enter?

     I did get this palmtop from someone else, a couple of
years ago, and I thought it was completely wiped before I
started using it (Ctrl-Shift-On, Y).  How could I un-map keys
that had been re-mapped?

     I'm trying to figure out how to get a cc:Mail icon.  On
the icon screen, it shows the Quicken icon with the
application name of cc:Mail beneath.

Alan

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>
>      I did get this palmtop from someone else, a couple of years ago,
> and I thought it was completely wiped before I started using it
> (Ctrl-Shift-On, Y).  How could I un-map keys that had been re-mapped?
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to get a cc:Mail icon.  On the icon screen,
> it shows the Quicken icon with the application name of cc:Mail beneath.

Looks pretty strange to me. You normally can't even delete the ccMail icon
using the standard F4/delete on the AppMgr screen. I know it can be done
tho... I'm not sure how to restore things back, other than pulling all the
batteries (main and backup) and letting it bleed overnight...should have
had the same effect with Ctrl-shift-on tho.

Maybe others here can offer a better suggestion.

Also, on my 200LX, Alt-{123} gets ccMail as well (unless that was remapped
on yours too).

- Longden

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Longden Loo wrote:
>Also, on my 200LX, Alt-{123} gets ccMail as well (unless that was remapped
>on yours too).

     *AHA!*  That works here too.  Where does it say to use
the Alt-<123> sequence?

     I'm still bothered that there is nothing on the palmtop to
remind me of how to reach cc:Mail, but this will do for now.

Alan

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Does Goin' Postal support IMAP4? This is critical to me, as I have more than
one mail reader open at a given time, and IMAP4 knows how to sync up the
readers. If not, what does?


David Satterfield
Sun Microsystems, Inc.            Phone:     (508) 442-2669
5 Omni Way, MS UCHL05-105         Fax:       (508) 442-1612
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To ANyone
I have an Epsom 40 meg unstacked flashcard for sale. I've had it 2
years. I've never had any problems with it but want a bigger card.
Asking $125.00
Reply directly to me.
Tony Guzewicz

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Folks,

I have a copy of stacker 4 that came with PC DOS 7.0.  It includes a
feature called stacker anywhere.  What I'm wonering is, is it worthwhile
to try and set this up on a 8 meg flash card?  Or is a compressed drive
of this type just too slow on an hp200lx (1meg) machine?

2nd question on this subject.  Will a win95 machine be able to see the
drive after running stacker anywhere?

My current method of data transfer is to place the flash card on my
laptop's pcmcia slot.
I know on my os/2 system I can pick up an copy of Stacker for OS/2 and it
will be able to read the compressed disk but Win95 concerns me.

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I will take your 40meg Flash Card

Jim Getz
Hot Springs, SD

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Folks,

Once in the OS/2 1.x days there was a version of Agenda from Lotus
designed for OS/2.
I'm looking for a copy.


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Hey Tony, is your flash card still available?

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I have been told that they are not now or expected to be available for the
PCS phones.
I have also heard that the reason is they are unreliable.
Hear any different, please pass it on to me.
Thanks Steven

Chris Lott wrote:

> I purchased a cell phone yesterday.  While I was in the showroom, I
> wandered over to the shelf to examine a data interface card (I have
> no need at the present for such capability, was just curious). I
> noticed that they sold the data interface card (Type II) for $399!
> Wow... This is big bucks for a digital modem (the phone is an
> Erricson digital cell phone).  I thought that having communications
> systems go digital would make the prices for this kind of interface
> equipment go *down", not up!  I paid less than $200 for my analog
> XJ1144 modem when it was relatively new, and I can get one for less
> than $50 now.  But $400 for a modem!?!?!?!  I'm just flabbergasted.
>
> What's happening here? Am I missing something important (it wouldn't
> be the first time!)?
>
> -Chris Lott
>
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I use the HP Connectivity Pack to transfer files between my desktops
an palmtop computer.  On my home computer, which runs Windows95, I
can get reliably speeds up to 38400 with CPACK.  However, at work I
could only get reliably up to 19200 with CPACK and a Dell Pentium Pro
running at 200 MHz and using Windows NT 4.0 OS.  Recently I was given
a new computer, which was the same Dell mfr, but it was a 333 MHz
Pentium Pro.  On a whim, I decided to try it out at 38400.  It seems
to work like a champ.  I guess the extra speed helps just enough to
that the NT DOS-emulator running on a Pentium Pro 333MHz can keep up
with my 486 DX2 @66MHz home computer.  Anyone else who has access to
this kind of speed at their office might want to try an up the
transfer rate and try the higher speeds, now that faster and faster
desktop computers are out there (last week I heard they started
shipping a 400MHz unit!).  If only the original HP palmtop design
crew were still in the race...

-Chris


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OK, all HP PIM gurus, I need help!
I maintain a rather large "to-do" list that includes items for my job, my
business, personal items, etc.  Due to the size of this list, my
appointments application opens and closes VERY slowly (I know, slow is
relative, but I'm always in a hurry).

In an effort to remedy this, I've built 4 different appointment files, 1 for
job, 1 for business, 1 for personal, and 1 "combined".  I'm currently using
the combined as the "immediate to-do's" file, and using "cut and paste" to
move items from one file to the other.  There's got to be a better way to
handle all of this, but I haven't thought of it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bob Roberts

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Date:         Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:22:26 +0100
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Turbo C 2.0 has a TSR (terminate-and-stay-resident) help utility that is
launched in the Desktop by pressing Num-5. On the 200LX this does not
work.

thelp has an option to configure the scan code that is used as hot-key.

How do I get a table of scan codes for the 200LX keyboard?

Paulo

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Date:         Tue, 21 Apr 1998 12:42:12 -0600
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> I have been told that they are not now or expected to be available
> for the PCS phones. I have also heard that the reason is they are
> unreliable. Hear any different, please pass it on to me. Thanks

Steven:

Well, there was one on the shelf ready to buy.  I can't comment on
it's reliability, but for $400 I would hope it worked at least as
well as an analog modem.  But as for it's availability, it was there
all right.

Since I orginally posted, I wondered what would keep a fellow (or
gal) from using an acoustic coupler with a cell phone, PCS or any
type?  If you kept the baud rate down (you have to with an acoustic
coupler, anyway), seems like it would work.  Anyone tried this?

-Chris Lott





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Date:         Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:57:36 -0700
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At 12:22 04/21/98 -0500, you wrote:
>OK, all HP PIM gurus, I need help!
>I maintain a rather large "to-do" list that includes items for my job, my
>business, personal items, etc.  Due to the size of this list, my
>appointments application opens and closes VERY slowly (I know, slow is
>relative, but I'm always in a hurry).
>
>In an effort to remedy this, I've built 4 different appointment files, 1 for
>job, 1 for business, 1 for personal, and 1 "combined".  I'm currently using
>the combined as the "immediate to-do's" file, and using "cut and paste" to
>move items from one file to the other.  There's got to be a better way to
>handle all of this, but I haven't thought of it.
==============
One way you can speed up things is to use a database file instead of an
appointment file for your "to-do's".  What slows down the appointment
manager so much is past due to-dos, which are carried over from day to day.
 Removing them to a database file really speeds things up.  Additionally,
you can create a category for your business, job, personal, etc., to-do's
and view or sort them accordingly.  If you want to move them back into the
appointment book, for instance when you schedule some time to do them, you
can use the smart-cut and paste and a macro.

Another thing you can do to speed up the appointment book is to clean it
out every so often - use the File-Remove or File-Extract functions to clean
old appointments from the file.  You can name the archive, so that you can
review it if you need to.  These I store on the desktop, but you can keep
them with you if you think you'll need them.

HTH,

Claud

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 01:24:13 +1700
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Reading all those mail about memory upgrades and double speed 200LX I wonder

if there is anything for us 100LX owners, else than to buy a 200LX :(.
IneedsignificantlymoreroominthislineforwhatIwanttosayhere

Net-Tamer V 1.10  - Registered

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Date:         Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:28:03 -0700
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I believe that the problem is more related to the serial port hardware
and the cable and however many adapters you have inline that may corrupt
the data.  I use my CPack at a full 115,200 baud without problems with
the serial port built into my motherboard.  I first used the CPack with
a serial port on a secondary board and an adapter and could only get
38k.  Anything faster would cause pauses and halts.
    I would hope that if our little 8 or 16 mhz palmtops could feed the
data at a full 115k that our whopping home computers could also!!!!????
Whell shouldn't they???
Dan Carrington

Chris Lott wrote:

> I use the HP Connectivity Pack to transfer files between my desktops
> an palmtop computer.  On my home computer, which runs Windows95, I
> can get reliably speeds up to 38400 with CPACK.  However, at work I
> could only get reliably up to 19200 with CPACK and a Dell Pentium Pro
> running at 200 MHz and using Windows NT 4.0 OS.  Recently I was given
> a new computer, which was the same Dell mfr, but it was a 333 MHz
> Pentium Pro.  On a whim, I decided to try it out at 38400.  It seems
> to work like a champ.  I guess the extra speed helps just enough to
> that the NT DOS-emulator running on a Pentium Pro 333MHz can keep up
> with my 486 DX2 @66MHz home computer.  Anyone else who has access to
> this kind of speed at their office might want to try an up the
> transfer rate and try the higher speeds, now that faster and faster
> desktop computers are out there (last week I heard they started
> shipping a 400MHz unit!).  If only the original HP palmtop design
> crew were still in the race...
>
> -Chris
>
> ******
> ****************************************************************
> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
> lott@phase4.com
> Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate
> address:
> 3405 Triana Blvd, SW
> rclott@ro.com
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> I believe that the problem is more related to the serial port hardware
> and the cable and however many adapters you have inline that may corrupt
> the data.  I use my CPack at a full 115,200 baud without problems with
> the serial port built into my motherboard.  I first used the CPack with
> a serial port on a secondary board and an adapter and could only get
> 38k.  Anything faster would cause pauses and halts.
>     I would hope that if our little 8 or 16 mhz palmtops could feed the
> data at a full 115k that our whopping home computers could also!!!!????
> Whell shouldn't they???

Dan:

I've been through this with several "experts" we have here on the
innards of NT and 95.  Windows 95 still allows a program to have full
access to the hardware, and therefore your serial port comm programs
operate at DOS-like speeds.  However, NT is a fully protected mode
OS, and it emulates DOS calls and I/O with a software library.
There's an extra layer of program instructions to execute for each
character you send and receive when you run CPACK (or any serial
port comm program) under NT.  You're right about one thing... if I
were to boot my 333 MHz Pentium Pro under DOS, it could burn the
pants off the palmtop.  But under NT/DOS emulation, it's not as easy
a comparison - certainly the serial port functions under NT still
appear crippled compared to the HP.

-Chris Lott

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I see....   The old Windows slowing things down problem can be bigger in
NT.  What is keeping you from speeds above 38k on your Win95 machine?

Dan


Chris Lott wrote:

> Dan:
>
> I've been through this with several "experts" we have here on the
> innards of NT and 95.  Windows 95 still allows a program to have full
> access to the hardware, and therefore your serial port comm programs
> operate at DOS-like speeds.  However, NT is a fully protected mode
> OS, and it emulates DOS calls and I/O with a software library.
> There's an extra layer of program instructions to execute for each
> character you send and receive when you run CPACK (or any serial
> port comm program) under NT.  You're right about one thing... if I
> were to boot my 333 MHz Pentium Pro under DOS, it could burn the
> pants off the palmtop.  But under NT/DOS emulation, it's not as easy
> a comparison - certainly the serial port functions under NT still
> appear crippled compared to the HP.
>
> -Chris Lott
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> How do I get a table of scan codes for the 200LX keyboard?
>

Hi Paulo,

I have a scan code database ( keycode.gdb )that I can send you.
If thats what you're looking for, if so drop me a line.




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Tony D. Guzewicz wrote:
>
> To ANyone
> I have an Epsom 40 meg unstacked flashcard for sale. I've had it 2
> years. I've never had any problems with it but want a bigger card.
> Asking $125.00
> Reply directly to me.
> Tony Guzewicz
Tony,
  If its still avalilable, I will purchase the card. Please respond
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Date:         Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:02:45 EDT
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I just had a very frustrating 10 days.  I got a new PC (very nice) and our
desktop support guru suggested I use NT 4.0 instead of Win95.  Well, this
meant I had to move my wonderful SCM Swapbox (PCMCIA card reader) to the
NT machine.  It was then that I found out that NT did not support these
very well, and certainly did not handle hot swapping.  I was advised (by
SCM's web site) to try a product called CardWizard from SystemSoft. I
purchased it (online) and isntalled it.  It caused my computer to stop
dead in its tracks.  I could not boot into NT at all!  I was not happy
with the tech support I received and I requested a refund.

I called SCM and found out about another product by Award called CardWare
6.0.  It installed flawlessly (I did get one error message which I
ignored) and works perfectly--even better than Win95.

I just wanted to pass it on to those of you who might be considering NT
4.0 and need a PCMCIA device.

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You can certainly get the double speed upgrade for the 100LX.
The crystal replacement works for all 100LX and 200LX palmtops.

As for a RAM upgrade, I think that certain configurations of
the 100LX could get some kind of RAM upgrade.  Maybe the 2MB
model of the 100LX may be able to get the a 4MB RAM upgrade.
The best way to find out would be to check with the guys that
do the upgrades: www.times2tech.com and/or www.thaddeus.com.


Stan

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> Turbo C 2.0 has a TSR (terminate-and-stay-resident) help utility that =
is
> launched in the Desktop by pressing Num-5. On the 200LX this does not
> work.

The problem is not the scan code.  While the task switching
shell, called System Manager, is running it uses a different
interrupt than normal DOS for getting it's keystrokes.  The
Turbo C TSR hooks itself into the regular DOS interrupt but
while SysMgr has control, that interrupt never sees any
action.  So, no matter what the scancode you set up for the
TSR, it will never work until SysMgr is terminated and the
regular DOS interrupt gets used again.

This "problem" applies to any and all DOS TSR programs that
watch for a hot key.  Through no fault of their own, they are
just looking in the wrong place for the keystroke interrupt.
:-(


Stan

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>
>      *AHA!*  That works here too.  Where does it say to use
> the Alt-<123> sequence?
>
>      I'm still bothered that there is nothing on the palmtop to
> remind me of how to reach cc:Mail, but this will do for now.

If you had a ccMail icon, pressing F3/edit or F8/list would should that as
the hotkey for the app.

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->>Windows 95 Beer: You can't buy it yet, but a lot of people have taste-tested
->>it and claim it's wonderful. The can looks a lot like MacBeer's can, but

->Agh! Its a joke with a Y2k problem! What happened to Win98 beer or
->WinNT5 beer?

Haven't you heard?  The tried to open a Win98 beer a couple of days ago in
front of a lot of people and it just exploded.  Nobody was concerned.
That was a new feature to add excitement.  Life should not be too boring!

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I like it!


->OS/2 Beer: Comes in a 32-oz can. Does allow you to drink several
->DOSBeers simultaneously. Allows you to drink Windows 3.1
->Beersimultaneously too, but somewhat slower. Advertises that its
->canswon't explode when you open them, even if you shake them up. You
->neverreally see anyone drinking OS/2 Beer, but the
->manufacturer(International Beer Manufacturing) claims that 9 million
->six-
->packshave been sold.

I particularly like this one, the beer I mean.  I drink it all the time,
at work, at home and at play.  In fact I am reading you on its label right
now, and you are right, it really does not explode, even when using non
International Beer Manufacturing products.  At least I think it does not
explode, because using it for years I still don't know what an explosion
looks like <g>.

I bet Bill Gates wishes he was using it when his beer spilled all over his
face while demonstrating a couple of days ago how great his "new" Windows
98 Beer was.  I bet he did.  Ah well, he'll probably just go buy and
relabel it too.

Jeff

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If you are running Buddy, it is easy.  In filer press Fn-K and then the
key whose code you want.  Buddy produces the code at the bottom left
corner.

I f you are not running Buddy, ..... well you really should!

Jeff

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As far as I can tell, it
>is only useful for cutting from one type of document and pasting into a
>different type. Is there any way to copy (i.e., create a duplicate of) a
>phone, notetaker, or database record?
>
Yes. In a list view, be at the record you wish to copy and go menu, edit ,
copy. Bingo - a duplicate record.

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Tom,

I print to a DeskJet 340 every day. It emulates the HP LaserJet - so make
sure you have that set on the LX. Because the DJ340 has a parallel interface
I have to use a serial to parallel converter (see your manual for the
setting 9600, N, Com1, ). Between the HP cable and the serial\parallel
converter make sure you use the adaptor with the telephone on it - not the
printer icon! I'm not sure about the 310, but my guess is it's the same.
Good luck.
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The A#1 way to improve your speed is to mail your system to times2tech for the
speed upgrade.  You have to experience it to believe it.

It also sounds like you may be running you files from a flash card -- maybe a
slow or stacked one.  Running from on-board memory may help.  Another
advantage of upgrading.

How often do you open & close the books?  A lot of people leave the phone book
open all the time, unless they close systems manager for a pure DOS session.

lynn m. cavendish
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The problem with multiple ADB files it that only the alarms in
the latest one loaded will go off.  Although you are keeping
multiple data files, there is still only one hidden ALARM.Q
file where the next few pending alarms are kept.  So, each
time you load a different ADB file, the ALARM.Q file is
updated with only the pending alarms from the loaded file.
So, when FILE4.ADB is loaded, none of the alarms from
FILE1.ADB thru FILE3.ADB will ever sound.


Stan

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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Stanley Dobrowski wrote:

> > Turbo C 2.0 has a TSR (terminate-and-stay-resident) help utility that is
> > launched in the Desktop by pressing Num-5. On the 200LX this does not
> > work.
>
> The problem is not the scan code.  While the task switching
> shell, called System Manager, is running it uses a different
> interrupt than normal DOS for getting it's keystrokes.  The
> Turbo C TSR hooks itself into the regular DOS interrupt but
> while SysMgr has control, that interrupt never sees any
> action.  So, no matter what the scancode you set up for the
> TSR, it will never work until SysMgr is terminated and the
> regular DOS interrupt gets used again.
> This "problem" applies to any and all DOS TSR programs that
> watch for a hot key.  Through no fault of their own, they are
> just looking in the wrong place for the keystroke interrupt.
> :-(

You might try hitting MENU+Ý5¨.  I believe that will generate the proper
scancode.  Yes, I just tried it on the 200LX in a SysMan dos prompt, and
if you run THELP and then press MENU+Ý5¨, it will pop up.

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> Another thing you can do to speed up the appointment book is to clean =
it
> out every so often - use the File-Remove or File-Extract functions to =
clean
> old appointments from the file.  You can name the archive, so that you =
can
> review it if you need to.  These I store on the desktop, but you can =
keep
> them with you if you think you'll need them.

To add to Claud's suggestions, you mite think about get the speed
upgrade. It would be $50.00 well spent.




Regards,

Qman...


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The Latin phrase CAVEAT EMPTOR springs to mind (well, actually it kinda
crept slower there from some dark recess of my long-term memory) - 'let the
buyer beware':

1 - There are some clever digital cell-phones available that have an RS-232
interface = no modem to be bought!  (but you can bet the cable is big
bucks!)

2 - There are many phones which need a PCMCIA in the PC/palmtop to
interface, but because there are so many people who "...have no need at the
present for such capability, was just curious..." the sales are
pathetically low (= high price)

3 - The remaining problem is the data rate, often VERY SLOOOOWW (e.g. 9600)

Cave!

jez

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...sold the data interface card (Type II) for $399! Wow... This is big
bucks for a digital modem

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I have had to add and extra sleeve ferrite at each end of the serial
cable to get 115K rates consistently. You may have additional
electromagnetic interference in your work environment or your W95
machine may be emitting a little more electromagnetic energy than it
should.

Marto

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>Sent:  21 April 1998 20:07
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>
>I see....   The old Windows slowing things down problem can be bigger in
>NT.  What is keeping you from speeds above 38k on your Win95 machine?
>
>Dan
>
>
>Chris Lott wrote:
>
>> Dan:
>>
>> I've been through this with several "experts" we have here on the
>> innards of NT and 95.  Windows 95 still allows a program to have full
>> access to the hardware, and therefore your serial port comm programs
>> operate at DOS-like speeds.  However, NT is a fully protected mode
>> OS, and it emulates DOS calls and I/O with a software library.
>> There's an extra layer of program instructions to execute for each
>> character you send and receive when you run CPACK (or any serial
>> port comm program) under NT.  You're right about one thing... if I
>> were to boot my 333 MHz Pentium Pro under DOS, it could burn the
>> pants off the palmtop.  But under NT/DOS emulation, it's not as easy
>> a comparison - certainly the serial port functions under NT still
>> appear crippled compared to the HP.
>>
>> -Chris Lott
>>
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>> ***********************************************************
>> R. Christopher Lott, P.E.
>> lott@phase4.com
>> Phase IV Systems, Inc.                               alternate
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>> 3405 Triana Blvd, SW
>> rclott@ro.com
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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 08:33:27 +0100
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              "Hoary, Marto ÝGAL:4050:EXCH¨" <marto.hoary@NORTEL.IE>
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I have been toying with this problem for years. I have a process of
rolling over ADB files every month that works well just now.

1) Keep one file current named either APR98.ADB or WEEK1798.ADB if the
month version is too slow. The my current file has two months of records
and ALL  future appointments and TODOs
2) At the beginning of the next term,  copy the current dab to the name
of the next term, say MAY98.ADB
3) Open MAY98.ADB and strip out the earlier unwanted records, which
would be for the month of March in this case.
USE File > Remove >Before > 01-Apr-98.
4) Open the APR98.ADB and remove all records before the beginning of the
month and after the end. You will have to go to <F5> the end of the
month and manually delete all of the incomplete TODO list.
This leaves a nice compact file for each month. The TODO list only shows
the completed TODOs . It makes the file very easy to review and search.
Lastly)  I merge each cleaned month file into a 1998.ADB which I keep on
the 100LX.

The speed upgrade still sounds like a good idea also.

Marto
>----------
>From:  Quinton Jones JrÝSMTP:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
>Sent:  22 April 1998 07:22
>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>Subject:       Re: multiple appointment files
>
>> Another thing you can do to speed up the appointment book is to clean it
>> out every so often - use the File-Remove or File-Extract functions to clean
>> old appointments from the file.  You can name the archive, so that you can
>> review it if you need to.  These I store on the desktop, but you can keep
>> them with you if you think you'll need them.
>
>To add to Claud's suggestions, you mite think about get the speed
>upgrade. It would be $50.00 well spent.
>
>
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Qman...
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 03:10:13 -0500
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              "John L. Stanley" <jls@GOLDENGATE.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Where is cc:Mail?
Comments: To: Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>

On Tuesday, April 21, 1998 8:42 AM, Alan Striegel
ÝSMTP:STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG¨ wrote:
>      I did get this palmtop from someone else, a couple of
> years ago, and I thought it was completely wiped before I
> started using it (Ctrl-Shift-On, Y).  How could I un-map keys
> that had been re-mapped?
>
>      I'm trying to figure out how to get a cc:Mail icon.  On
> the icon screen, it shows the Quicken icon with the
> application name of cc:Mail beneath.

Got it!  That symptom occurs when you transfer the appmgr.dat file
from an HP100 to an HP200.  The icons and internal applications have
different id numbers deep inside the system ROMs and the appmgr.dat
files encode the data used for internal apps in the icon list just
a bit differently on each system (100 .vs. 200).

  I bet you originally had a 100LX, you bought a 200LX, wiped it, and
transferred your C:\_dat folder from the 100 to the 200.  Right??

  The way to fix this is to:
    1)  Go into app mgr and carefully write down the data
           (name, path, key-assignment, and comment)
        for each non-internal app that you want to keep.
    2)  Exit app manager
    3)  Use file mgr to rename C:\_dat\appmgr.dat to appmgr.old
    4)  Re-open app manager.  This step will create a new default
        (reinitialized) copy of C:\_dat\appmgr.dat with all the
        standard internal apps in their proper place.
    5)  Carefully add back all the applications you wrote down
        in step 1.
    6)  Check it out and make sure it works ok.
    7)  Come back here and let us know how it worked...

OH!  One other thing.  When you perform step 4 above, it may also
use info in:
  c:\_dat\apname.lst  and/or  a:\apname.lst  (if either exists)
to automatically add some non-internal application icons back into
the iconlist.  If you like what they added, great.  If not, delete
the ones you don't want...  Nuff said...

  If at any point you want to go back to the corrupted appmgr.dat:
    1)  Exit app manager
    2)  Rename c:\_dat\appmgr.dat to appmgr.new
    3)  Rename c:\_dat\appmgr.old to appmgr.dat
    4)  Re-open app manager.

  Good luck!
          ... JLS

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:13:30 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Looking for info delivery via Email

This may be slightly off-topic but I am looking for a way get stocks
delivered to me via email. It's not easy to browz web paages when you
use a 14.4 modem. I keep track of all my finances on my LX and it would
be great to get prices sent directly to me. I would write my own little
portfolio management system to track my investments.

Any ideas ?
           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:52:48 -0500
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On Tue, 21 Apr 1998 10:08:20 -0700, Stev Cole articulated...

>I have been told that they are not now or expected to be available for the
>PCS phones.
>I have also heard that the reason is they are unreliable.
>Hear any different, please pass it on to me.
>Thanks Steven

For purely digital phones such as PCS, you're correct.  However, I believe
Chris is refering to a TDMA/CDMA digital phone, which can refert to Analog,
which is what is required for this sort of interface.

Really *dumb* that a *digital phone* has to revert to analog for a digital
signal.  Same with digital phone lines I know, but still doesn't make much
sense.

I'm in the same boat, however.  There is *no* modem that will work with my 200
and my Nokia 2160, as the 2160 uses the NOK3 cable and only the newest (read:
MUCH greater than 150mA supply) modems work with the NOK3 cable.  Sucks *bad*.
I wish they'd make one of the RJ-11 interfaces for my phone.  They're upwards
of $150, but provide a standard RJ-11 interface so any modem (fax, etc.) will
work.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 11:47:48 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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TDK do a software-only modem for use with Digital GSM phones.  Of course
there is no DOS version, and I guess there never will be due to lack of
demand.  But it goes to show that it can be done, and if it can be done for
Windows it can be done for DOS.  All you get is the cable to match the
phone, and the floppy disk.  *No* power drain beyond driving the serial
port.

Nokia do a phone with a built-in IR port, so you can even do without the
cable ....

And you can get from Ericsson a GSM phone on a type II PC card, (but I guess
too many mA), and I believe someone now does a DECT phone the same way.   It
is known that these manufacturers will offer combined DECT/GSM phones, so I
guess there will be PC cards the same.  Fitting your SIMM into a PC card
must be fiddly !

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 07:04:51 -0500
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              Bob Roberts <terbocom@TERBOCOM.COM>
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Yes, I was aware of that.  That's one of the reasons ALL appointments are
kept in the "combined" file, which is the one kept open.  The others are
almost exclusively for "to-do's".

Bob

At 08:51 PM 4/21/98 -0400, you wrote:
>The problem with multiple ADB files it that only the alarms in
>the latest one loaded will go off.  Although you are keeping
>multiple data files, there is still only one hidden ALARM.Q
>file where the next few pending alarms are kept.  So, each
>time you load a different ADB file, the ALARM.Q file is
>updated with only the pending alarms from the loaded file.
>So, when FILE4.ADB is loaded, none of the alarms from
>FILE1.ADB thru FILE3.ADB will ever sound.
>
>
>Stan
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              Mike <cmevans@FLASH.NET>
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>

I just recently had the hingecrack problem.  My solution was to bend a small section
of a paper clip into a circle, thenheat it up with a soldering iron and push it into
the plastic case going accross the crack.  after that, I covered the "wound" with
epoxy and let it set over night.  It's not pretty, looks like there's a small wad of
bubble gum on the upper right of my case,
and it's only been a couple of weeks since I've done it, so I can't attest to its
longgevity.  I got this from I used to fix vcrs and had to repair various broken
tabs and case parts (I did it on the inside, natch)

mike



> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Cracked Hinge
> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:21:18 +1000
> From: Greg Dwyer <gdwyer@MELBPC.ORG.AU>
>
> Sorry to revisit this problem but I didn't take much notice of the prior
> answers to this problem as I thought it would never happen to me (forgot
> about the possibility of a 3 year old jumping on it)!
>
> Anyway I now have a cracked hinge (on the palmtop) and was wondering if
> anyone has had any success gluing it back together. If so, what type of
> adhesive did you use?
>
> If not, what other alternatives are there?
>
> An excellent newsgroup!! Congratulations everyone.
>
> Regards
>
> Greg Dwyer (gdwyer@melbpc.org.au)
> Melbourne, Australia
>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 06:20:57 PDT
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              Nelson Naspitz <nnaspitz@HOTMAIL.COM>
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Also, you could use Buddy macros to "switch" between files, so when you
press the Function key it could be diplayed on the bottom line the files
like, APP, OFF, PERS, etc.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:37:24 -0400
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              Alan Striegel <STRIEGEL@EISNER.DECUS.ORG>
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John Stanley wrote:
>  I bet you originally had a 100LX, you bought a 200LX, wiped it, and
>transferred your C:\_dat folder from the 100 to the 200.  Right??

Absolutely right!  My HP palmtop adventures started years ago
when I won a 95LX as the door prize at a workstation seminar
in the local HP office.  That was followed by the 100LX, and
that was followed by the 200LX I have today.

Everything I had was always carried across to the new machines
as much as possible.  In fact I didn't even buy the 100LX
connectivity kit right away because the conversion tool from
CSV files to PBK format served my purposes (since the
100LX/200LX can directly open them).

I was kind of hoping for this sort of thing to strike a chord
with someone.  Many thanks.

>  The way to fix this is to:
>  ...
>  7)  Come back here and let us know how it worked...

I haven't implemented the fix yet, but will report to the list
when I have tried it.

Alan

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:53:42 -0400
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Try www.infobeat.com and click on the finance section. You can get closing
figures daily or weekly.

Edward A. Padin wrote:

> This may be slightly off-topic but I am looking for a way get stocks
> delivered to me via email. It's not easy to browz web paages when you
> use a 14.4 modem. I keep track of all my finances on my LX and it would
> be great to get prices sent directly to me. I would write my own little
> portfolio management system to track my investments.
>
> Any ideas ?
>            Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
>           "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell
>
> Every nation has the government it deserves.
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.10 Palm Top - Registered
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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:53:26 -0400
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              James Scheffler <srakkt@TIAC.NET>
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        Hey there, all...  has anyone had success at all with this modem?  A
friend has recently purchased a faster one, and wishes to sell it.  Insofar
as caveats go, yes, I'm certain it works, we used it from a laptop, and
yes, all the cables are available, and yes, I can get the drivers from 3Com
(and already have)
        Now into the meat of it: in order to install the drivers, the setup
program uses windows.  So I'm wondering if i need to get DOS drivers, or if
the actual drivers and junk can be grabbed out of the heap of install
files, and used on the palmtop.  Any ideas?
        TIA
        James

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:34:50 -0400
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I am trying to figure out what the best task swapping strategy is for
running large dos programs and even maybe windows might be for a 1 meg
100LX.  I have a 40 meg flash card and I'm not sure I'm that worried
about speed.

I know about about and have dosshell, software carousel, maxdos and
exmbatch. Are there others? what are the pros and cons of each with my
limited configuration?

Thanks!
Brenda

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 10:15:12 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Brenda Clyde wrote:

> I am trying to figure out what the best task swapping strategy is for
> running large dos programs and even maybe windows might be for a 1 meg
> 100LX.  I have a 40 meg flash card and I'm not sure I'm that worried
> about speed.
>
> I know about about and have dosshell, software carousel, maxdos and
> exmbatch. Are there others? what are the pros and cons of each with my
> limited configuration?

I'd go with MaxDOS for a limited machine. It takes less disk space for the
executable and support files, uses less conventional RAM as a TSR and is
quick.

The drawback is that unlike the others, MaxDOS is more like "shelling" to
DOS. That is, you can start up a MaxDOS session, but can't swap back and
forth with the original session...you have to terminate the MaxDOS session
to get back. It's also free tho.

Never used exmbatch, so my comments above don't apply to it.

SC seems to be the way to go for the max flexibilty, but you give up about
35k of RAM and $70. To maximize your flexibility, you'd likely have more
than 2 sessions defined and would probably swap to your flashcard which
will slow down the swap speed.

- Longden

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 12:40:50 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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I wrote awhile back on this list about the COM port automatically
"waking" up my palmtop everytime I plugged it in at work.  It would
turn on the palmtop.  This only happened at the office computer.
Well, after my recent change of computers at work, this no longer
happens! Same mfr (Dell), but I think they changed their COM port
circuitry since my older computer was made.  Their systems now ship
with only 1 COM port!!! There are now two new USB ports, but I don't
have any USB peripherals, so they are useless to me.  I hope we don't
see the day when computers don't have *any* serial ports on them...
that would be bad for my palmtoppin' escapades!

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 13:07:13 -0600
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QUESTION:  has anyone experienced any problems using Software
Carousel and the Times2 upgrade on their palmtop?  I have had
occasional troubles in the past, where my palmtop will slow
down drastically.  Mack and I discussed it briefly back then, and
decided that it corrected itself when I re-booted.  Lately, I have
been having this trouble *much* more frequently.  It still will clear
itself upon re-booting, but I would have to re-boot several times
daily.

SYSTEM: HP-200LX 2MB model with 4MB upgrade (=5MB), x2 crystal, and
30/60MB Ace/IBM Flash Card and Megahertz X-Jack Model 1144 FAX/Modem.

COMMENTS: The symptoms are that the computer seems to perform slowly,
almost as if the x2 upgrade wasn't installed.  I can really notice it
when I pull up an appointment book or phone book.  The difference in
speed is noticable (I have my phone and appt books on the C: drive).
After a while of running programs, and switching between SC sessions,
it starts "dragging" again.  While it's misbehaving, I have tried
some experiments to ascertain what's going on. I have tried several
times to run the Norton Utilities SI (Systems Information) program.
When I run it, it correctly reports that the computer is running at
6.4 or so the speed of a standard XT.  This is comparable with the
value I get immediately upon re-booting.  So whatever is slowing me
down, it isn't anything the Norton checks when he performs his XT
index calculation.  Mack has suggested that SC might be the culprit.
Anyone have any experience with SC and x2?

-Chris Lott


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After succefully configure and use WWW/LX version 1,  I'm
testing the new version.

I do use two ISP . In one I could configure and test all the new
features. Very nice and comfortable to browse.

In the Other ISP the connection hang up. The messages I received are:

------------->

Dialing
Logging in
Sending Password
Waiting PPP
Starting PPP
Negotiating LPC ... Done
Negotiating IPLP.... Aborting  !Could not establish PPP Connection

Could not connect to POP host

<------------------

I do tried to include the size limit ing WWW.CFG but without
success.

MaxSegmentSize=512

Can this be due the fact that is an demo
version? or may be other reasons.



ݨs


Eduardo Cesana

ECOLOGICA Tecnologia & Controle Ambiental Ltda
Tel +55 (0)71 375-3311  Fax +55 (0)71 375-1141
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What is a USB port?  Do modemsor other 2-wire peripherals work off of a
USB port?

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Friday night (4-17-98) I was on the HP web site looking though the various
pages about information on the 200lx while working on a server install at
work. I turned around for about an hour and when I  came back the web site
had changed.

HP now no longer has any information about the 200 on their site! I also
noticed that most references to the 300 series are gone as well. I should
mention that if you search the entire HP site you can find the 200, but the
information is no longer advertised on the handheld pc's page.

Mark it on your calendars, fellow palm-toppers. It looks like HP has
officially given the first and only true palmtop PC the death sentence. Me,
I'll reserve judgement until something better comes along (and you can bet
it won't be WinCE).

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ

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could you please answer a question for me about this parallel/serial
converter? I am thinking of purchasing one of these but I don't think I
have one of those telephone adapters you mentioned. What does this part
actually accomplish so that perhaps I can substitute a different  (i.e.,
Radio Shack) one. In other words, is it a straight-thru connection or
does it cross any wires?
thanks,
al


On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:37:26 +1000
Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU> wrote:

> Tom,
>
> I print to a DeskJet 340 every day. It emulates the HP LaserJet - so make
> sure you have that set on the LX. Because the DJ340 has a parallel interface
> I have to use a serial to parallel converter (see your manual for the
> setting 9600, N, Com1, ). Between the HP cable and the serial\parallel
> converter make sure you use the adaptor with the telephone on it - not the
> printer icon! I'm not sure about the 310, but my guess is it's the same.
> Good luck.
> Crombie Redd
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     Well, I renamed my appmgr.dat file and there is now a
real cc:Mail icon.  (Success!)

     A side effect of having the old file was that none of the
entries in apname.lst was being loaded.  Now they do appear as
well.

     It was an almost painless process.  The only issue was
having to get outside the system to record the application
list.  Why didn't they think to use the Copy/Paste function?

     I ended up using my desktop computer's Excel spreadsheet
to keep track of the order and details so I could re-enter
them.

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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Eduardo Cesana wrote:

> After succefully configure and use WWW/LX version 1,  I'm
> testing the new version.
>
> I do use two ISP . In one I could configure and test all the new
> features. Very nice and comfortable to browse.
>
> In the Other ISP the connection hang up. The messages I received are:
>
> ------------->
>
> Dialing
> Logging in
> Sending Password
> Waiting PPP
> Starting PPP
> Negotiating LPC ... Done
> Negotiating IPLP.... Aborting  !Could not establish PPP Connection
>
> Could not connect to POP host
>
> Can this be due the fact that is an demo
> version? or may be other reasons.

This seems to be a common problem with the new version, especially on 56K
modems.  It does it both on the demo and registered versions, from what
I've heard.

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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How about the following web site?

http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/product_info/

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Official death of the 200lx???
| Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 3:52 PM
|
| Friday night (4-17-98) I was on the HP web site looking though the various
| pages about information on the 200lx while working on a server install at
| work. I turned around for about an hour and when I  came back the web site
| had changed.
|
| HP now no longer has any information about the 200 on their site! I also
| noticed that most references to the 300 series are gone as well. I should
| mention that if you search the entire HP site you can find the 200, but the
| information is no longer advertised on the handheld pc's page.
|
| Mark it on your calendars, fellow palm-toppers. It looks like HP has
| officially given the first and only true palmtop PC the death sentence. Me,
| I'll reserve judgement until something better comes along (and you can bet
| it won't be WinCE).

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Longden C. Loo wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Brenda Clyde wrote:
>
Ýsnip¨
From my experiments, MaxDOS moves anything in memory to a swap file and
then lets your DOS program have all the memory it can use.  But it's not
a task swapper per se.

I don't have any first hand experience with the other programs you
mentioned, but I think Software Carosel would do the job for you.
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Hi group-

If you've been having problems with the new Post/LX or WWW/LX, check
out D&A's site - there's some new info about this & a new version of
WWW/LX that is supposed to fix it.  Just grabbed a copy myself.  8-)

HTH

-PR
------------

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    *******  HP100LX  ----  Post/LX  ----  WWW/LX  *******
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try www.Infobeat.com, you can have customized news e-mailed to you each
day.

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Well the list came through a few weeks ago when I asked for help geting my
Silicom ethernet card working.  Let's try again for something different.
I've had my 200lx for almost 4 years and like others I am continually
amazed at it's abilities.  I use the Silicom card to diagnose my network
ills and I use the connectivity cable with null modem adapter to program
the ethernet switches in equipment closets.  Now Best Lock has a program
for the 200 that will allow me to program my lock on the computer room
(credit card type key).  Amazing!  To get back on track,  I'm needing to
change adapters and gender changers on the connectivity cable frequently.
Where can I get inexpensive unterminated cable that I can put specific ends
on?  Or maybe some one that will create custom cables?
Thanks again,
bob

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River Wolf wrote:
>
> Friday night (4-17-98) I was on the HP web site looking though the various
> pages about information on the 200lx while working on a server install at
> work. I turned around for about an hour and when I  came back the web site
> had changed.
>
> HP now no longer has any information about the 200 on their site! I also
> noticed that most references to the 300 series are gone as well. I should
> mention that if you search the entire HP site you can find the 200, but the
> information is no longer advertised on the handheld pc's page.
>
> Mark it on your calendars, fellow palm-toppers. It looks like HP has
> officially given the first and only true palmtop PC the death sentence. Me,
> I'll reserve judgement until something better comes along (and you can bet
> it won't be WinCE).
>
> --Patrick McGouirk
> Computer Systems Administrator
> 13WMAZ
>
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(Carpman thinks a second and says:)
So.

Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
this list and tell us why. Thanks.

carpman
ctg@geocities.com

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As I said, the information is still there if you do a search, but if you go to the main page (www.hp.com) and drill down to the
handhelds page they no longer list the 200lx at all and barely mention the 3xx series. They may be working on a redesign of the site
but I doubt it.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
13WMAZ
http://www.13wmaz.com
---------------------------------------------


>How about the following web site?
>
>http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/product_info/
>
>Michael Stocker
>mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
>http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
>PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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not a chance

>(Carpman thinks a second and says:)
>So.
>
>Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
>this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:49:16 -0400
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If you go to the HP web site at http://www.hp.com, click handhelds, then click
site map, you will see direct links to the 200LX and 200LX accessories sites.

http://www.hp.com/handheld/sitemap.html

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| From: River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Re: Official death of the 200lx???
| Date: Wednesday, April 22, 1998 5:32 PM
|
| As I said, the information is still there if you do a search, but if you go
to the main page (www.hp.com) and drill down to the
| handhelds page they no longer list the 200lx at all and barely mention the
3xx series. They may be working on a redesign of the site
| but I doubt it.
|
| --Patrick McGouirk
| Computer Systems Administrator
| 13WMAZ
| http://www.13wmaz.com
| ---------------------------------------------
|
|
| >How about the following web site?
| >
| >http://www.hp.com/handheld/palmtops/product_info/
| >
| >Michael Stocker
| >mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
| >http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
| >PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA
|
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At 06:13 AM 4/22/98 -0800, you wrote:
>This may be slightly off-topic but I am looking for a way get stocks
>delivered to me via email.

Check out www.inquisit.com and see if it delivers stock prices. There is a
monthly cost but it is a great service.

They do a great job of sending a range of news info of my choice from a
variety of sources  via email and I think they also track stock prices stocks.

Alan

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Subject:      Re: Looking for info delivery via Email- Quicken files!

On 1998-04-22 andymd@MCI2000.COM said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >try www.Infobeat.com, you can have customized news e-mailed to you
   >each day.
   >--------------------------------------------

This service is great! Apparently, the will even send file attachments
 suitable for importing into Lotus or Quick. SHWEEET. I haven't gotten
my first delivery yet but I'll let y'all know how it imports into
Lotus. Anybody want to try the quicken option? It's great for those that
keep their stock portfolios in Quicken.

Later

           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Every absurdity has a champion to defend it.

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On 1998-04-22 jtkrist@CLARK.NET said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Longden C. Loo wrote:
   >> On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Brenda Clyde wrote:
   >Ýsnip¨
   >>From my experiments, MaxDOS moves anything in memory to a swap
   >file and then lets your DOS program have all the memory it can use.
   >But it's not a task swapper per se.
   >I don't have any first hand experience with the other programs you
   >mentioned, but I think Software Carosel would do the job for you.
   >--
   >Jim Krist                                        jtkrist@clark.net

I used to use Dosshell. It was okay but Software Carousel is way kewl.
It's about 5 times faster when used with expanded memory, recognizes
blue keys, has application auto-start features and let's sysmanager
alarms trigger in other apps. About the only drawback is that it
requires lot's more swap space. I wouldn't want to use it on anything
less than a 4MB LX.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

Long computations that yield zero are probably all for naught.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:03:02 -0700
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Just a quickie here,  :)

Does the hp200lx converse w/ outlook?  What software do I need to synch
the two?  Anyone use them together?

Thanks,

Marta

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Bob Penick wrote:
> Where can I get inexpensive unterminated cable that I can put specific ends
> on?  Or maybe some one that will create custom cables?
Educalc used to have these, but their page doesn't seem to loading
properly now... http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lxa.htm
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Carpman wrote:
>       If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
> this list and tell us why. Thanks.
  In addition to my trusty HP100LX, I also have an HP Omnigo 100. While
I like a lot of the OGO features better than the HPLX, I haven't
switched 'cause the OGO just doesn't quite make it.
        I like the OGO's graphics, handwriting recognition AND keyboard input,
graphical & extensible OS (granted, GEOS is not as extensable as DOS).
        HP was asleep at the wheel when they dumbed-down the built in
applications, so that it does not allow multiple databases, etc. And NO
EXTERNAL POWER for a device with a 1/10th the battery life of the HPLX?
Duh!
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Kevin Calman wrote:

> Educalc used to have these, but their page doesn't seem to loading
> properly now... http://www.educalc.com/products/hp200lxa.htm

Yeah, Educalc went out of business a while back.  Very unfortunate, and
another sign of HP's degradation over the past few years.

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Subject:      electric power usage

Is there a way to determine how much power a flashcard is drawing.  I have
the distinct impression that, when my old ACE PC Double flash Plus card is
in the slot, my batteries are getting discharged more rapidly than they
used to.  Maybe that happens when the PC cards get old?  Maybe it is
something else.

Is there a tool to find out what the drain on the batteries is?

Jeff

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Comments: To: Carpman <ctg@GEOCITIES.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <353E6538.180A@geocities.com>

> Mark it on your calendars, fellow palm-toppers. It looks like HP has
> officially given the first and only true palmtop PC the death sentence.

Look at the good side.  If the word gets out you'll be able to buy your
spare units even more cheaply.

Jeff

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In my (never to be humble) opinion, it is so close to irrelevant as to make no
difference at this point.

I now have 2 hot-rodded 200lx's, (one with the 32 meg option 8¬) ) and they
will last me well past the next technological breakthrough.  If that next
breakthrough is the dud that WinCE has been so far, the world is full of low
milage used models.  Where is the problem?

I have given up on HP giving me my HP260LX, so I will simply enjoy my MB260LX.
It does the work which I need done.

Cordially,

lynn m. cavendish

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Dear friends,
Where the software Carousel can be found?
Thanks,
Nelson





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<<  Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
 matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
 lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
 this list and tell us why. Thanks.
  >>

Well, for me, I will probably never be without a 200lx again. I tried a WinCE
machine when they firast came out. I was trying to replace a damaged Sharp
PC-3000, another, larger DOS handheld. I was dissatisfied with the WinCE
machine and traded it for a 200LX. The best thing I ever did, and I thank that
man today.

The 200LX is even more handy than the PC-3000 it replaced. It is as small as
is practical. I have upgraded my memory and will soon have the double speed
upgrade done. I'm sold!

Dennis

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Subject:      Goin' Postal Review

I'd like to relat my experiences with Goin' Postal. It only took six hours
start to finish to download, install,educate me,and start running the
program.  Steve Lawson was very helpful and patient with all my idiot
questions. (As an aside, I'm amazed at how much DOS stuff I've forgotten
thanks to windoze).
I'm also amazed at how FAST I can get connected,download and send messages,
and go offline.

John
Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v1.06beta) EVALUATION

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It is rumored that someone once found the right connector
inside a dead mouse.

Entrails anyone ?

Kevin Calman wrote:

> Bob Penick wrote:
> > Where can I get inexpensive unterminated cable that I can put specific ends
> > on?  Or maybe some one that will create custom cables?

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:34:15 -0700
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David,

I think your issue is different than Mitch's.

I know that Earthlink has mixed lines, some will absolutely
not work with WWW/LX others work flawlessly. This was true for
WWW/LX ver. 1, don't know about version 2 which we posted
early April.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Steven

> Where can I find WWW/LX  & GP shareware?

WWW/LX Plus is NOT SHAREWARE, despite Jeff Johns' statements.
he is plain and simple WRONG. WWW/LX Plus is a commercial
software. You can download it from the D&A Software Inc. Web
page at http://www.dasoft.com. It will work for you in DEMO
mode (Jeff's source of error?) which limits the transmissions
to 16K per session, as many sessions as you wish. You can try
it, looks at it, kick its tires, then decide to buy it.

Jeff presented a very good evaluation of GP, I wish he also
had one for WWW/LX Plus! :)

 Avi Meshar
 D&A Software, Inc.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:34:01 -0700
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Jeff:

> I wanted to take this opportunity to brag on the Goin' Postal email =
program
> one more time. Since WWW/LX has now been released as shareware

"SHAREWARE"? What makes you say that? It is a commercial
product, was a commercial product and remains a commercial
product!

Based on lots and lots of input from customers we have it
running in DEMO mode so people can try it. But it is NOT
shareware, since the Demo mode does not let you use the full
capacity of the program.

Please DO NOT make such reckless statements - let me repeat:
WWW/LX Plus IS NOT SHAREWARE!!! It is COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE.

About manuals: We provide the text file for all the manual
even before registration :)

Good description of GP! How about a similar evaluation from
you on WWW/LX Plus? :) I think you'd be a good evaluator since
you are saying you are biased towards GP. Maybe we can learn
from your experience...

You compared a product that does email with a product that
does Web browsing, email and newsgroups. If all you want is
Email from WWW/LX Plus then the memory hit is about 270K
total, easily run from system manager.

BTW, the Web browser is taking a giant leap forward: We got
Stefan Peichl's permission to use LXPIC directly from HV, so
now HV can display GIFs and JPEGs (formerly only GIFs directly
and JPEGs via an external viewr). The "painting is much faster
using LXPIC, and the JPEGs are displayed inline, i.e.
surrounded by text as are the GIFs. And on the desktop, well
try it in a day or two when I put up the new HV on the Web
page. I am preparing it right now...

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:34:11 -0700
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Mitch,

> I have been using WWW/LX 2.0 for the past week and am impressed. I do
> find myself faced with two problems that maybe someone has solved:
>
> 1) My PPP connections to Netcom are sporadic. I am using the PAP/CHAP
> login script and it works only sometimes. Many times the screen gets to
> the IPCP negotiation, pauses a little too long and then quickly jumps =
to
> the POST/LX screen telling me that my POP host is not connected. I have
> to re-start the program and try again as it will not re-dial once this
> happens. Possibly it's my modem string. Does anyone have a good one for
> the Megahertz XJ3144?

Solved with the latest version of www.exe which is on the
http://www.dasoft.com Web page. Check out FAQ item #29.

I also think you wrote to me privately that it is fixed.

> 2) I have not been able to complete a ftp download. It usually tkes 3 =
or
> 4 tries to get the file to completely download. Once it arrives, HV =
opens
> up a new blank page. I tell the program to save the file, it suggests =
the
> correct filename and default location, but I end with a file of zero
> bytes. Anyone seeing this? Any hints on successful ftp'ing with WWW/LX?

I dunno! I asked some questions from you.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:42:29 -0400
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At 09:34 PM 4/22/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Based on lots and lots of input from customers we have it
>running in DEMO mode so people can try it. But it is NOT
>shareware, since the Demo mode does not let you use the full
>capacity of the program.
>
>Please DO NOT make such reckless statements - let me repeat:
>WWW/LX Plus IS NOT SHAREWARE!!! It is COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE.

I believe the term is "crippled shareware".  Commercial software, with one
authorized distribution point, and a fairly severe software limitation.
"Try before you buy" is the definition of shareware - and WWW/LX definitely
falls under this category.

But enough about definitions.  I'm not out to make enemies.  (Especially
not with the producer of such great stuff!)  Often shareware is confused
with freeware, which is an ENTIRELY different type of program.  So, WWW/LX
is crippled shareware, but NOT freeware.  Tell your friends to go buy their
own d_mn copy.  ;)

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

"For historical reference, it might be noted that the signature line
'People like you ought to be shot' turns more heads than one might
realize. The following formula can be applied to discover the potence
of your signature..."  - Myself, "Bits of Wisdom, Teras of Flame"

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sponsor@ftel.net wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I think your issue is different than Mitch's.
>
> I know that Earthlink has mixed lines, some will absolutely
> not work with WWW/LX others work flawlessly. This was true for
> WWW/LX ver. 1, don't know about version 2 which we posted
> early April.

WWW 1.2 did the same thing, but version 1.2a, the
new release, cleared it right up.  Now, I can log
in and do anything on all of our lines here as
well.  In fact, WWW/LX 2.0 has cured all of the
problems I was having between WWW/LX 1.0 and my
ISP!  I heartily recommend it to anybody who is
looking for an internet solution on the palmtop--
now that it's been released as a demo, you have no
more excuses!  :-)

For example, using WWW/LX and Post/LX 2.0 in demo
mode, I was able to keep connected this week while
in the hospital with my wife (pregnancy-related
complications... it looks like she and the baby
Ýnot born yet¨ will be okay...) using my palmtop
and Simple Tech 33.6 modem.  I don't know what I
would have done without it!  Thanks, D&A!

Watch my web site (when I get a break from all
this hospital activity!) for a review of the new
WWW/LX and a review of the ADVANCED MODE of TT/LX.
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http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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For those looking for a 200LX just found this one for sale.
Reply-To: jeff_semroc@.hp.com



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From: jeff_semroc@.hp.com
Subject: FS: HP 200LX palmtop
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:39:10 GMT

Selling a like-new condition HP200LX palmtop, 1Mb model, with
HP 5MB Flashdisk, AC adapter and manuals.

They're in perfect condition, and have not really been used.

        $250 for the pair

modify the email address to reply.


Jeff Semroc

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For those looking to to buy a 200LX, just found another one.
Sounds to good to be true, better jump on it.

Good Luck!

Reply-To: tjsongmd@aol.com (TJSongMD)


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From: tjsongmd@aol.com (TJSongMD)
Subject: FS:HP 200lx 2mega palmtop:$150
Date: 22 Apr 1998 20:59:35 GMT

1.  200lx perfect condition $150.00
     (include AC/DC 12v adaptor, third party made, and shipping)


2. Genuin leather palmtop carring case: $20.00 (original price $44)
    nearly new


TJSongMD@aol.com



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This comes up regularly.  The answer is no, there is no software to synch
with Outlook.

I have managed to move data using the Connectivity Pack, but it is hard work
and there is no obvious way to automate it.

So far all I've done is Outlook Calendar -> HP200 Appointments.

1.      Export a Tab Separated (DOS) from Outlook.  Comma separated has
trouble as Outlook does not convert commas or CRLF sequences in the 'notes'
to tabs, as most converters would.  This causes one to get multiple partial
records if you use a CSV file.

2.      When doing this only export fields that the LX can use.   Currently
I've reduced it to:

        Subject
        Start Date
        Start Time
        End Date
        End Time
        Reminder On/Off
        Reminder Time
        Location

        Also do *not* export the field names as row 1.

3.      Use Excel to open the TSV file.   Convert the formats of all the
dates to yyyymmdd, the times to hhmm, and the boolean FALSE to 0 and TRUE to
1.  Save the file now as a CSV (comma separated) file.   This is why I
dropped the 'description' - which would map to the Notes on the LX; I could
not go through every one to get rid of commas, CRLF etc.

4.      Now use the connectivity pack...

5.      Copy the .ADB file from the LX (must close the application etc
first).  You can use TRANSFILE or Laplink etc as you prefer.

6.      Create a task in Xlate/Merge to convert the CSV file (known as CDF
on the Connectivity Pack) to an ADB file.  You need a custom field map, but
it's pretty simple.   Once you have set up the task you reuse it every time.
Convert the file.

7.      Create a task in Xlate/Merge to merge the original ADB file with the
one you have from Outlook.   It allows you to handle any collisions etc.

8.      Now send the resultant ADB file back to the LX, and open it in the
Appointments.  Voila !

As you can see it would be a bit hard to automate - but I guess there are
VBA interfaces to Outlook which could be made to do the export.  I'm sure
you can also set something up to do the Excel field conversions.    You
could use macros perhaps to automate the Connectivity pack parts.  It just
gets more risky.

There are still big problems with handling duplicates.  You may have already
seen that Outlook records and all day event as ending at 00:00 on the *next*
day.  When you export this, it gets fanned out into *two* events on
successive days.  So every all-day appointment seems to run an extra day.
Weekends end on Monday !

I've not tried the reverse process.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:05:03 -0700
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Subject:      FlashCard Driver

Having received such great help from people on this list, concerning my
little 100lx in the past, I thought I would inquire here again (even
though this is not quite on topic).

I know about, and am using, a certain "acecard" driver to allow my 100lx
to recognize a Simple Tech 32meg flashcard. In trying to use it (the card
that is) in my wife's HP 425 omnibook, it tells me that I also need to
load a special driver there. Does anyone know if there is such a beast,
and where I could get it? I tried, as a long shot, to use the same driver
as I do with the 100lx, but it refused to load on that hardware.

On a less important issue, does anyone know the difference between the
425 & the 430 omnibook. I have the chance of picking one up, and would
like to know how it might differ from the one my wife uses. (and if I can
get this flashcard to work on one, all the better).

Thanks,
David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 06:27:30 -0500
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I have a copy of Borland Sidekick for sale, still shrinkwrapped in the manual.
It runs on my 100lx, but only in DOS mode, the sysmgr conflicts with the hotkeys.
For those that are unfamiliar with this app, it is a TSR that contains a full-screen editor, a phone directory, an autodialer, a monthly
calendar, an appointment calendar, a calculator, and an ASCII table. It allows you to load some or all of the apps at bootup.

I'm asking $5 +shipping

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Brown, William wrote:
>
> This comes up regularly.  The answer is no, there is no software to synch
> with Outlook.
>
> I have managed to move data using the Connectivity Pack, but it is hard work
> and there is no obvious way to automate it.
>
> So far all I've done is Outlook Calendar -> HP200 Appointments.
>
> 1.      Export a Tab Separated (DOS) from Outlook.  Comma separated has
> trouble as Outlook does not convert commas or CRLF sequences in the 'notes'
> to tabs, as most converters would.  This causes one to get multiple partial
> records if you use a CSV file.
>
> 2.      When doing this only export fields that the LX can use.   Currently
> I've reduced it to:
>
>         Subject
>         Start Date
>         Start Time
>         End Date
>         End Time
>         Reminder On/Off
>         Reminder Time
>         Location
>
>         Also do *not* export the field names as row 1.
>
> 3.      Use Excel to open the TSV file.   Convert the formats of all the
> dates to yyyymmdd, the times to hhmm, and the boolean FALSE to 0 and TRUE to
> 1.  Save the file now as a CSV (comma separated) file.   This is why I
> dropped the 'description' - which would map to the Notes on the LX; I could
> not go through every one to get rid of commas, CRLF etc.
>
> 4.      Now use the connectivity pack...
>
> 5.      Copy the .ADB file from the LX (must close the application etc
> first).  You can use TRANSFILE or Laplink etc as you prefer.
>
> 6.      Create a task in Xlate/Merge to convert the CSV file (known as CDF
> on the Connectivity Pack) to an ADB file.  You need a custom field map, but
> it's pretty simple.   Once you have set up the task you reuse it every time.
> Convert the file.
>
> 7.      Create a task in Xlate/Merge to merge the original ADB file with the
> one you have from Outlook.   It allows you to handle any collisions etc.
>
> 8.      Now send the resultant ADB file back to the LX, and open it in the
> Appointments.  Voila !
>
> As you can see it would be a bit hard to automate - but I guess there are
> VBA interfaces to Outlook which could be made to do the export.  I'm sure
> you can also set something up to do the Excel field conversions.    You
> could use macros perhaps to automate the Connectivity pack parts.  It just
> gets more risky.
>
> There are still big problems with handling duplicates.  You may have already
> seen that Outlook records and all day event as ending at 00:00 on the *next*
> day.  When you export this, it gets fanned out into *two* events on
> successive days.  So every all-day appointment seems to run an extra day.
> Weekends end on Monday !
>
> I've not tried the reverse process.
>
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Did you check the super site. Someone posted a utility which will export
the data for appts to and from outlook. I don't remember the name.

Brenda

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 07:41:16 -0500
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, A. Meshar wrote:

> Steven
>
> > Where can I find WWW/LX  & GP shareware?
>
> WWW/LX Plus is NOT SHAREWARE, despite Jeff Johns' statements.
> he is plain and simple WRONG. WWW/LX Plus is a commercial
> software. You can download it from the D&A Software Inc. Web

My bad...... please forgive me I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings. I
also have to agree that the proper term should be crippled shareware, but
I guess it's really a moot point.

> Jeff presented a very good evaluation of GP, I wish he also
> had one for WWW/LX Plus! :)

As I mentioned before, I am biased towards 'Goin Postal, but I promise I
will load up WWW/LX and give it whirl. The main reason I haven't is the
fact that all _I_ really need is email on the palmtop. For web work via
the LX I guess I would prefer just to use Lynx via my shell account. I'm
not one that has to have all the flashy pictures.

D&A does make greeat software, I have both ABC/LX and Time Tracker. I did
not mean to stir up any hard feelings of flames. I was just stating my
own opinion, and we all know how that goes......

Jeff

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Yes, it was Brian McIlvaine.  I have tried it but it was very fussy about
the files from the 200LX.  I did get it working, left it a while and when I
came back to it I could not work it !  Brian says he has not the time to
sort out any problems in it.  It did work so-so.   The Xlate/merge does at
least give you pop-ups to handle collisions or duplicates.

The ideal would be if Puma made a version of Intellisync for the HP.  But I
gather they have been approached and are not interested.  Pity as they have
both the interface to Outlook and the interface to the LX in their existing
products.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 22:38:05 -0400
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              "Stacy D. Coil" <coil.1@OSU.EDU>
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For an embedded 486-66 capable of EGA or VGA emulation in the same
form-factor.

Other than that, not a chance.

--Stacy


Thanks for your message at 04:46 PM 4/22/98 -0500, Carpman. Your message was:
>
>Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
>this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>
>carpman
>ctg@geocities.com
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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:52:20 -0700
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Stan Peters wrote:

> It is rumored that someone once found the right connector
> inside a dead mouse.
> Entrails anyone ?

Many mice have a 4-pin connector inside that can be used for a basic
cable, and also many of the cables you use to hook up the audio output on
an internal CD-ROM drive to your sound card have the right connector.
Basically, it's a little 4-pin female connector that you can slip onto
pins 2, 3, 4, and 5.  Pin 5 is ground, and 2 and 3 and transmit and
receive (not sure which is which) so you can make an effective "null
modem" cable to do file transfers.  It won't work for things like the
Delorme Tripmate, which require another signal to turn on.  But it will
work for transferring files and what not.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 10:33:37 -0500
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I might trade mine in for a machine like this, if it
cost under $500!
Bob

At 10:38 PM 4/23/98 -0400, you wrote:
>For an embedded 486-66 capable of EGA or VGA emulation in the same
>form-factor.
>
>Other than that, not a chance.
>
>--Stacy
>
>
>Thanks for your message at 04:46 PM 4/22/98 -0500, Carpman. Your message was:
>>
>>Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>>matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>>lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
>>this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>>
>>carpman
>>ctg@geocities.com
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It's always a tradeoff of wants and needs.   I like the Toshiba Libretto.
They've packed alot into a small form factor and the color screen is GREAT!
But it doesn't run on 2 double AA batteries and it since it's a
sub-sub-notebook, it doesn't fit into my coat pocket.    The Psion comes
close to an HP200LX.    But I don't believe that it runs DOS programs.    I
DO believe that the next generation or two of WinCE products will get very
attractive and eventually will overtake the power of the HPLX.
For_my_needs, I can accept a machine that doesn't run DOS.  Is the need of
size important to me?  Yes....but I'll probably accept the fact that my
next machine WON'T fit into my coat pocket.   So how will I carry it?
Backpack?  Holster?  European style purse or fannypack?   Such dilemmas
result in compromise.  In the meantime, I'll enjoy my HP200LX-5Meg wonder
and hope that I don't lose it, drop it, have it stolen or damage it.
Rgds......Jim J.



>Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
>this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>
>carpman
>ctg@geocities.com
>

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David Smalley wrote:

> I know about, and am using, a certain "acecard" driver to allow my =
100lx
> to recognize a Simple Tech 32meg flashcard. In trying to use it (the =
card
> that is) in my wife's HP 425 omnibook, it tells me that I also need to
> load a special driver there. Does anyone know if there is such a beast,
> and where I could get it? I tried, as a long shot, to use the same =
driver
> as I do with the 100lx, but it refused to load on that hardware.


Hey David,

If you find such a driver, please forward me a copy. I have the same
problem with my Omnibook 300.


Regards,

Qman...


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Does anyone know of a biorhythm program small enough to run on the palmto=
p.


It might be fun having the palmtop telling me what days are worth getting=

up for and those when it's best to stay in bed 8-)

The ultimate solution would be to get some kind of feedback when the
palmtop is first turned on in the morning - maybe via the cookie route, o=
r
a clever macro which runs at night. =


Any ideas?

Laurence Harvey

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I posted the "dead mouse" note, that the mouse cable terminated with a
4-pin connector that, more or less, fits the HP95.  Since a mouse can be
had for under $3, it may be a cheap solution.

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 14:07:17 -0700
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Laurence Harvey wrote:

> Does anyone know of a biorhythm program small enough to run on the
> palmtop.
> It might be fun having the palmtop telling me what days are worth
> getting up for and those when it's best to stay in bed 8-)
> The ultimate solution would be to get some kind of feedback when the
> palmtop is first turned on in the morning - maybe via the cookie route,
> or a clever macro which runs at night.

No solid advice, but I have a thought: you could set up an alarm to run a
batch file that runs TRAN, a free speech synthesizer, to read the output
of a DOS biorhythm generator.  That would be pretty neat.  For waking up,
your alarm would be a synthesized voice telling you... er... whatever the
biorhythm program says.

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:48:46 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Laurence Harvey wrote:

> Does anyone know of a biorhythm program small enough to run on the palmtop.
>
> It might be fun having the palmtop telling me what days are worth getting
> up for and those when it's best to stay in bed 8-)

I have a Lotus 123 spreadsheet w/macros that computes the numbers and
creates a plot. From "Phase Two Software"...anyone know if they're still
in business? The spreadsheet's from 1984, but works great..and only 6k.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 15:52:03 -0500
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I took apart a cheap mouse - wires soldered directly.
I suspect the cheap mice skip the cost of the connector.
A good quality senile mouse may be a better bet.

Chris England wrote:

> I posted the "dead mouse" note, that the mouse cable terminated with a
> 4-pin connector that, more or less, fits the HP95.  Since a mouse can be
> had for under $3, it may be a cheap solution.
>

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:12:02 EDT
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              Cavendishl <Cavendishl@AOL.COM>
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Me too!  Whenever I need to transfer anything to my OB300 I have to use the
one HP flashcard I own.  It will work in both machines.  The inability to use
the rest of my cards  limits my use of the OB300 a lot more than I had
expected.

(I also was suprised how little DOS space can be made availible.)

lynn m. cavendish

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 18:53:37 -0700
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Jeff,

I replied in private email. I bet you'll like it :-)

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:32:26 -0700
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Subject:      Re: For sale: SideKick

On 1998-04-23 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to nancyb@best.com
   >I have a copy of Borland Sidekick for sale, still shrinkwrapped in



PLEASE!!!  i've been tring to locate a copy for months!  if others are
wanting it, i'll start the bidding at $20+shipping.

nancyb@best.com

Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 19:32:20 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Official death of the 200lx???

   >Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
   >matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
   >lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post
   >to this list and tell us why. Thanks.
   >carpman

NOT A CHANCE!


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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:29:59 -0800
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Subject:      A very kewl way to get stock prices delivered to 123 or Quicken

I just got my first delivery of closing prices from www.infobeat.com
(Thanks, Andy). and it is great. They send you a comma delimited file
attachment like the one below that you can easily import into Lotus,
Quicken, Foxpro, etc. Apparently there's lots of other information as
well including currency and commodities. Just thought I'd pass this
along to you finance types.

I'm going to use this feature to write my own little portfolio
management system in Foxpro. I'll write a Foxpro program that can go
directly into my netteamer mail.dlu file and extract the prices. I can
then monitor my portfolio on a day-to-day basis. We live in a wonderful
age...


Later.


sample file:

"MSFT",98.875,+4,200385,"04/22/98"
"WTLK",3,+.25,540,"04/22/98"
"BEQGX",22.02,+.07,0,"04/22/98"
"DAGVX",26.54,-.23,0,"04/22/98"
"MPMVX",22.28,+.06,0,"04/22/98"
"SWPIX",17.45,+.06,0,"04/22/98"
"SSHFX",32.48,+.15,0,"04/22/98"
"TRVLX",20.59,+.06,0,"04/22/98"
"TVFQX",31.59,+.14,0,"04/22/98"
".INDU",9176.72,-8.22,0,"04/22/98"
"SPX",1130.00,+3.33,0,"04/22/98"



           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:55:21 -0400
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Subject:      Floppy Drive on LX

Dear LX Friends,
Is anyone successfully using a 3.5" Floppy Drive with their 200LX? I currently use my Zip Drive with my 200LX. I have a TransDigital Parallel Port Card that slips into my PCMCIA drive and works like a charm.
I have a Toshiba FDD Attachment case for use with my Notebook. The connector is unique in design and I don't know the name or if it is manufacturer proprietary. It is a small "D" type connector. The shield measures .800" L by .150" W. Inside is a thin 26 conductor male edge connector intgral to the connector (13 fingers on each side). Sound familiar?
Here are my questions:
1.Does anyone use a 3.5" Floppy drive? (Recommendations?)
2.Does anyone use the floppy drive similar to my description?
3.Does each FDD require it's own driver?

Thanks in advance,
Ken Moore

By the way, I appreciate the dialog on this e-mail community.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:21:53 -0700
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              RB <bueker@SONOMA.EDU>
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I loved that response. NOT A CHANCE!!!!!! I was half expecting it to
continue with something like 'not a chance, unless you can pry it from
my cold dead fingers.'

        If I sound completly loyal to HP and their 'killer' products, I should
say that even though my first calculators and palmtops were HP's (
hp-25C ('75), hp-65 ('77) and 6 others until I bought a 48SX, followed
by a 48GX ; HP-95LX and HP-200LX ) I feel I should say (confess?) that I
have also owned some PSION products (I can almost hear your stomach
churn).
        I have had a PSION 3, 3C, and a Siena ( they have all been horse traded
). Recently my sister gave me a PSION 5 and... (wait for it) I really
like it. And, in case you are curious, I do still feel that the HP200LX
is not only the best of the bunch, it is also the one I would choose if
it came to a choice between it and the PSION, or any other that I have
tried.



Nancy A. Barker wrote:
>
>    >Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>    >matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>    >lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post
>    >to this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>    >carpman
>
> NOT A CHANCE!
>
> Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive
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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:39:13 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I just yesterday located a copy of Sidekick 2.0 dos and purchased it.
Then Paul replied to an earlier message. Since I have a copy now I thought
someone else might want one.

The best thing about this version is it stores the address book in Paradox
2.0 format. Very easy to inport and export to the current Paradox for
Windows 3.1 and 95 version. I don't know about the timeplaner format.

If you're and os/2er it and be set to use the exact same format as
Sidekick PM 2.0 (native OS/2 app)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu


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Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 16:24:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Martin <pmym@yahoo.com>
To: Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>
Subject: Re: sidekick 2.0

Yep for DOS.

I didn't realize how complete this is.  I saved everything.


---Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> 1 - Sidekick 2.00 (unregistered)
>
> ===================================
> So is this the DOS version?

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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:46:28 -0700
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Ken A. Moore wrote:
> 1.Does anyone use a 3.5" Floppy drive? (Recommendations?)
Not at this time and not on the Hplx but MicroSolutions makes a fine line
of parellel port drives. I own a number of their drives.

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Thu, 23 Apr 1998 23:55:36 -0700
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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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This copy is in Australia

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 20:33:17 +1000
From: David Aylott <daylott@bigfoot.com>
To: "'pccare@teleport.com'" <pccare@teleport.com>
Subject: RE: sidekick 2.0 dos

Amazing!

This has been advertised for about 6 months and the only interest is from
the US!

Postage for disks and manual:

Air     $25
Economy $20
Sea     $18

Prices are in AUS$ - note  that the banks charge me up to $20 to convert
foreign cheques so this would need to be added unless you can send the
money in AUS$

Thanks for your enquiry.

----------
From:   Patrick WestÝSMTP:pccare@teleport.com¨
Sent:   Wednesday, 22 April 1998 05:44 PM
To:     daylott@bigfoot.com
Subject:        sidekick 2.0 dos

Folks,
I notice you have a copy of sidekick 2.0 for dos for sale at $5.00

How much to ship to Portland Or. USA?



.
  ,-._|\      David Aylott
 /  Oz  \  E-mail: daylott@bigfoot.com
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       v      http://www.ozemail.com.au/~daylott/

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 03:02:29 -0400
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There is a Sidekick clone for the palmtop, called LXPRO, it is
freeware and available from S.U.P.E.R.

LXPRO works with or without SysMgr running. It has no editor
and phonebook (use the palmtops built in), but comes with:

-Battery/Serial port/Speaker/Screen Control
-ASCII table
-Calculator (hex,bin,dec,oct)
-Keycodes (scan,ascii)
-Main Memory x-ray

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 04:16:01 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> Me too!  Whenever I need to transfer anything to my OB300 I have to use =
the
> one HP flashcard I own.  It will work in both machines.  The inability =
to use
> the rest of my cards  limits my use of the OB300 a lot more than I had
> expected.
>
> (I also was suprised how little DOS space can be made availible.)
>

Hi lynn,

The same goes for me too. The only card that works on my OB and LX is my
ACE card.  The OB doesn't support compact flash. (:-(

I was also surprised at how much low ram was available in DOS. I install
POST/LX and it worked fine for downloading and reading mail.
But I get a " not enough memory to run external program" when trying to
Reply-To, run setup, and download News.


If you come up with a fix, please let me know.

BTW: POST/LX & WWW/LX sure looks good on the OB, give it a try!




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:51:27 -0500
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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I wouldn't trade my HP200LX for any Handheld on the market today and I =
have researched the current "upgraded" Windows CE 2.0 batch thoroughly.  =
Although the technology has enormous potential, these machines still =
lack three primary requirements for me to shift:
1) "Small-enough" size.  I need "shirt-pocket" portability!  Having the =
HP200LX with me ALL THE TIME is the unique feature along with one buttom =
access to built in programs.
2) DOS flexibility.  I need DOS for some applications which I use =
frequently.
3) Better built in ROM programs.  (The HP200LX collection of built-ins =
are very flexible and useable, especially Appt, Phone, Database & =
Notetaker".

I have no questions, however, that some company will "leapfrog" teh =
competition with a better device in the near future, though near may be =
2-3 years.  In the meantime, I'll continue to read my Thaddeaus =
Computing Palmtop magazine over and over and over, and "lurk" on this =
list.

Chuck Sutherland

Thanks for your message at 04:46 PM 4/22/98 -0500, Carpman. Your message =
was:
>
>Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
>matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
>lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
>this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>
>carpman
>ctg@geocities.com
>

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 09:30:52 -0500
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On 22 Apr 98 at 16:46, Carpman wrote:


> (Carpman thinks a second and says:)
> So.
>
> Thanks for the info, but even if hp did drop the lx line, does it
> matter? Im asking this question to EVERYONE on this list, even the
> lurkers. If you would trade in your 200lx for another machine, post to
> this list and tell us why. Thanks.
>
> carpman
> ctg@geocities.com
>
>

In line with this thread, I would never give up my 200LX.

Reports of its demise may be premature.  The NY Times had an ad on
4/19 from J&R Computer offering 200LX-4meg for $599.  It was the
first time in many months that I have seen them advertised .

On a slightly different note, this is the best list I subscribe to.
Tons of useful information from lots of knowledgable folks.
Joel Catalano
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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 08:56:20 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Has anyone had problems running Nettamer version 109?  I used to have
it running briefly last Fall while I was on vacation. I decided to
get serious again with it, and tried last night to get it started up
again.  Alas, I found a strange problem whenever the program tried to
start up the editor, either it's own RED.COM or one I suppled, Q
edit.  Both instances the screen became hopelessly mangled, and yet I
was able to issue the exit keys for the editor and get back to
Nettamer.  However, even once I exited Nettamer, using either of
these editors would cause the screen to be similarly mangled again
until I re-booted the system.

Any ideas?  I visited the Nettamer web site this morning, and see
that I'm two versions behind.  I have downloaded the latest, but
haven't tried it out yet. I'm hoping that this new version will solve
all my problems (and even help me lose some weight 8-).


-Chris Lott


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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 06:51:56 +0000
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Dear  fellows,

I unfortunately managed to pour some Coke on my open HP200LX.
I have several keys (from Q to P) which responds with double
charachters or do not respond at all.

Can someone tell me how can I fix the problem?

Thanks in advance for your reply

Best regards

Raphael

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 07:56:01 -0700
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I know this works on pagers.
Remove ALL batteries, WARM some DISTILLED water. DO NOT submerge screen.

Blow in ALL openings with compressed air.
REALLY let dry for days in the sun or near a gas pilot light un covered
to evaporated remaining water.
Pray
Replace batteries.

Alternate method;
Electronic supply stores a contact cleaner, get the one that leaves no
residue (you already have enough residue in there).
Use the tube on the nozzle to localize the spray.
Remove ALL batteries,
Turn palm top upside down and spray around the Q & P keys.
Read can for drying time.
Pray that the residue does not migrate.

When hot pancake syrup got on my keys it finally wore off months latter.
A nuisance to say the least.

(;-){--< My mom owns stock in Coke, I will have her bring up at the next
board meeting a disclaimer label for their products such as;
Coke or pancake syrup spilling can be hazardous to your palm top keys.
OR
Not to be consumed by palmtops under the age of 21.

Good luck, Steven Coles
PS do not do it again
Let me know how it turns out.


Raphael Rues wrote:

> Dear  fellows,
>
> I unfortunately managed to pour some Coke on my open HP200LX.
> I have several keys (from Q to P) which responds with double
> charachters or do not respond at all.
>
> Can someone tell me how can I fix the problem?
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply
>
> Best regards
>
> Raphael
>
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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:09:34 -0400
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      Right hinge

I believe I once saw instructions on the web on taking apart the right
hinge of the LX.  Not just the dustcap but past that.  Does anyone
remember where that was?

I have an old broken 100LX I am fooling around with.

Also can one add the left over 2MB RAM daughterboard removed from a 4 MB
200 LX to a 1 MB 100 LX?  How?

Thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 13:38:55 -0500
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              Suresh Nirody <snirody@IUMC.IUPUI.EDU>
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Subject:      Re biorhythms

Since you're on CI$ try the filefinder with keyword biorhythm. I did
approx 2 yrs ago and d/l'd a couple of programs that worlked fine on the
HP200lx. I deleted them a long time ago and don't remember the names,
but you should be able to find them.....
Suresh Nirody
>Laurence Harvey <harvey_l@compuserve.com> said : "does >anyone know of
a bioryhthm program small enough to run on >the palmtop?"

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:41:41 -0700
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From:         "Nancy A. Barker" <nancyb@BEST.COM>
Subject:      Sidekick

I've been wanting the Outliner part of Sidekick.  I had/have Sidekick Plus,
but the original disks are no good.  There is no version number or date
except Copyright 1988 in the manual.  Do the other versions you guys have
include the Outliner?

If I remember correctly, it used the + and - keys to open and close each
level.  Is that going to be a problem on the 200lx keyboard?  Will remapping
work?

I don't care about the hot-key to call it, or running it as a tsr.  I will
run it in a work area of Software Carousel.


Think it's worth a try?


Thanks,
nancyb@best.com

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 15:16:19 -0400
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japple wrote:

> In line with this thread, I would never give up my 200LX.
>
> Reports of its demise may be premature.  The NY Times had an ad on
> 4/19 from J&R Computer offering 200LX-4meg for $599.  It was the
> first time in many months that I have seen them advertised .

I also noted that J&R has the 200LX in its most current catalogue.  This is
the first time in at least eight months - maybe longer - that the 200LX has
been given catalogue billing.

Joe Casey

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 16:18:12 -0600
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              Don Puscher <dpuscher@QUALCOMM.COM>
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I'm trying to connect my 200lx to my Citizen PN 60 printer.  The cable that
comes with it terminates with a male plug, as do all the plugs in the
Connectivity Kit.  Any suggestions on where I could buy an adapter?

Thanks,
Don

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 17:27:06 -0500
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I just started running a double-speed 200LX (love it!) and was wondering =
if the faster processor would help the serial port or PCMCIA slot handle =
higher throughput. Usually, modem communications become dicey above 19200 =
for a regular speed machine. Is that a hardware problem, or a processor =
speed problem? Will a faster PCMCIA modem (28.8, 33.6 or 56K) work with a =
DS 200LX providing one can be found that doesn't suck too much power from =
the slot? Any recommendations on specific modem models that meet this =
requirement?

Thanks!

Mitch
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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 18:04:25 -0700
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998, Mitchell Hamm wrote:

> I just started running a double-speed 200LX (love it!) and was wondering
> if the faster processor would help the serial port or PCMCIA slot handle
> higher throughput. Usually, modem communications become dicey above
> 19200 for a regular speed machine. Is that a hardware problem, or a
> processor speed problem? Will a faster PCMCIA modem (28.8, 33.6 or 56K)
> work with a DS 200LX providing one can be found that doesn't suck too
> much power from the slot? Any recommendations on specific modem models
> that meet this requirement?

Yes, a double-speed machine will improve your serial communications.  I
can do 33.6 with my Simple Tech modem.  I'm not sure what the max would
be, but I'd imagine with a 56K modem you could do probably nearly 40kbps,
at least.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 01:54:00 GMT
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On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:41:41 -0700, you wrote:

>I've been wanting the Outliner part of Sidekick.  I had/have Sidekick =
Plus,
>but the original disks are no good.  There is no version number or date
>except Copyright 1988 in the manual.  Do the other versions you guys =
have
>include the Outliner?
>
>If I remember correctly, it used the + and - keys to open and close each
>level.  Is that going to be a problem on the 200lx keyboard?  Will =
remapping
>work?
>


You can remap the + & - keys to something else..
That was the nice thing about Borland's programs.


Dean L. W5GXL

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When I first got my 425, I did not have an HDD for it. I put in a 20meg FLASH.
It formatted it as the HDD and all was well. When I got my Type 3 drive, I
took it out and place it into the A: drive. The A: drive could not read it or
format it. Any one know why????

Thanks,
Dennis

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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 19:29:59 -0400
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>------------------------------
>
>Date:    Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:05:03 -0700
>From:    David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
>Subject: FlashCard Driver
>
>Having received such great help from people on this list, concerning
>my
>little 100lx in the past, I thought I would inquire here again (even
>though this is not quite on topic).
>
>I know about, and am using, a certain "acecard" driver to allow my
>100lx
>to recognize a Simple Tech 32meg flashcard. In trying to use it (the
>card
>that is) in my wife's HP 425 omnibook, it tells me that I also need to
>load a special driver there. Does anyone know if there is such a
>beast,
>and where I could get it? I tried, as a long shot, to use the same
>driver
>as I do with the 100lx, but it refused to load on that hardware.
>
Did you read the REMs in the Config.Sys & Autoexec.Bat. As I recall
(little sister inherited my 300 turned 425 when I moved to the 600 some
time ago) they have a number of drivers there which can be commented /
uncommented as needed. I ran mine with the original WD 40MB drive, a
Maxtor 130 MB HDD, SunDisk 10 & Maxtor TFFS 20 MB cards in various slots.
Don't remember exactly what driver it needed. I know you do need the ATA
disk driver active though. Check the copy of Autoexec & Config.sys on
your D:\Omnibook (I think - the set-up directory) directory.

>On a less important issue, does anyone know the difference between the
>425 & the 430 omnibook. I have the chance of picking one up, and would
>like to know how it might differ from the one my wife uses. (and if I
>can
>get this flashcard to work on one, all the better).
>
The 425 is a 486SX/25 clone running software (DOS 5, Win3.1 in Standard
Mode, WinWord 2 & Excel (3?)) from a ROM card (your D drive). The 430 is
a 486SX/33 (clone, I think - I skipped that series) running programs in
real RAM when they realized that keeping the commitment to upgrading ROM
cards for everyone was going to be a bear. You'll be able to run the same
software, but will need to install it from disk via LapLink or the 3rd
party (Sparcom? that also went to my sister) floppy drive. You might find
RAM a bit tight though, and I suspect it still won't run Win3.1 Enhanced.

>Thanks,
>David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)
>

Jon Barrett
jonzann@juno.com
jonzann@altavista.net
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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:03:20 -0700
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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I am actual running Window 3.11 on a Omnibook 425 upgraded to 430 software.
The 425 has only 4 meg. I am using a parallel port ethernet adapter.

karl

At 07:29 PM 4/24/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>------------------------------
>>
>>Date:    Thu, 23 Apr 1998 02:05:03 -0700
>>From:    David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
>>Subject: FlashCard Driver
>>
>>Having received such great help from people on this list, concerning
>>my
>>little 100lx in the past, I thought I would inquire here again (even
>>though this is not quite on topic).
>>
>>I know about, and am using, a certain "acecard" driver to allow my
>>100lx
>>to recognize a Simple Tech 32meg flashcard. In trying to use it (the
>>card
>>that is) in my wife's HP 425 omnibook, it tells me that I also need to
>>load a special driver there. Does anyone know if there is such a
>>beast,
>>and where I could get it? I tried, as a long shot, to use the same
>>driver
>>as I do with the 100lx, but it refused to load on that hardware.
>>
>Did you read the REMs in the Config.Sys & Autoexec.Bat. As I recall
>(little sister inherited my 300 turned 425 when I moved to the 600 some
>time ago) they have a number of drivers there which can be commented /
>uncommented as needed. I ran mine with the original WD 40MB drive, a
>Maxtor 130 MB HDD, SunDisk 10 & Maxtor TFFS 20 MB cards in various slots.
>Don't remember exactly what driver it needed. I know you do need the ATA
>disk driver active though. Check the copy of Autoexec & Config.sys on
>your D:\Omnibook (I think - the set-up directory) directory.
>
>>On a less important issue, does anyone know the difference between the
>>425 & the 430 omnibook. I have the chance of picking one up, and would
>>like to know how it might differ from the one my wife uses. (and if I
>>can
>>get this flashcard to work on one, all the better).
>>
>The 425 is a 486SX/25 clone running software (DOS 5, Win3.1 in Standard
>Mode, WinWord 2 & Excel (3?)) from a ROM card (your D drive). The 430 is
>a 486SX/33 (clone, I think - I skipped that series) running programs in
>real RAM when they realized that keeping the commitment to upgrading ROM
>cards for everyone was going to be a bear. You'll be able to run the same
>software, but will need to install it from disk via LapLink or the 3rd
>party (Sparcom? that also went to my sister) floppy drive. You might find
>RAM a bit tight though, and I suspect it still won't run Win3.1 Enhanced.
>
>>Thanks,
>>David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)
>>
>
>Jon Barrett
>jonzann@juno.com
>jonzann@altavista.net
>jbarrett@rurdev.usda.gov
>
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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 00:25:02 -0400
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At 06:04 PM 4/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Yes, a double-speed machine will improve your serial communications.  I
>can do 33.6 with my Simple Tech modem.  I'm not sure what the max would
>be, but I'd imagine with a 56K modem you could do probably nearly 40kbps,
>at least.

Here's an added note for getting a PCMCIA modem instead of an external.
The serial port on the 200 is powered by a pretend 8250 UART, which
contains a one-character buffer.  An interrupt can be triggered every time
a character is recieved.. but sometimes even polling the serial port won't
go fast enough not to drop characters. If you get a PCMCIA modem, it's
almost guaranteed you can go faster than with an external.  PC cards work
like any internal modem; they come with their own UART, which is usually
the beefier 16550A.  The 16550A has a 16-character buffer (if I remember
right) which gives the palmtop enough time to catch everything without that
nasty dropped-character stuff.

Oh yeah.. I don't know about others, but the AT&T KIT 14.4 uses the system
speaker so you can hear it connecting.  I thought that was interesting...
anyone for writing an enabler for an Adlib or SB-compatible PC card?

Ian Butler <ianrb@caspers.net>
Advanced Software Systems, Inc.

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'People like you ought to be shot' turns more heads than one might
realize. The following formula can be applied to discover the potence
of your signature..."  - Myself, "Bits of Wisdom, Teras of Flame"

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Outliner is GONE from 2.0

> On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 11:41:41 -0700, someone wrote:
>
> >I've been wanting the Outliner part of Sidekick.  I had/have Sidekick Plus,
> >but the original disks are no good.  There is no version number or date
> >except Copyright 1988 in the manual.  Do the other versions you guys have
> >include the Outliner?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Someone said they wanted the Outliner feature in sidekick plus
Paul who had the 2.0 also had a 1.5x copy not sure if that is the same as
sidekick plus or not.  Might ask him.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 1998 16:27:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>
To: Paul Martin <pmym@yahoo.com>
Subject: sidekick

Paul,
I noticed you have these items for sale. Is the 2.0 the DOS version?
Does the 1.56 for dos read Paradox 2.0 files?

 Sidekick 2.00 (unregistered)
 Sidekick 1.56/DOS
What price are you asking? Plus how much for shipping?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Fri, 24 Apr 1998 22:36:19 -0700
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              David Sargeant <davidsa@ACCESSNV.COM>
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Jeff Malka wrote:
>
> I believe I once saw instructions on the web on taking apart the right
> hinge of the LX.  Not just the dustcap but past that.  Does anyone
> remember where that was?

Hmm... perhaps you're thinking of my page?  Not
sure.

Also, for anyone who wants to see a great picture
of the palmtop assembly, check this link out:

http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/hplx.gif

Thanks to ol' what's-his-name for sending me that.

> I have an old broken 100LX I am fooling around with.
> Also can one add the left over 2MB RAM daughterboard removed from a 4 MB
> 200 LX to a 1 MB 100 LX?  How?

I believe the 100LX doesn't have a socket for
adding memory, or even provisions for one.  So,
no, only the 200LX is memory expandable.  Both the
100 and 200LX can have the speed upgrade, though.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 16:46:40 +1000
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              Brendan Macmillan <bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU>
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Hi

I'm wondering if anyone has found a program that turns the 200lx into
a midi keyboard?

That is, you press a key (say 'j') and the program
sends the appropriate data to the serial port, where it is recieved by
the midi device you have connected - which then plays the note.

Note: I already have two excellent programs that will play a midi *file*
        * lxmidi plays through the internal speaker - avail SUPER
        * gsplay plays through the serial port, excellent on the hp200lx
                - avail SimTel, I think

I don't remember if Band-in-a-Box does this or not - an old, barebones
version would be great.


Note: if I can't find anything appropriate, I'll probably write a (very)
simple program to do it, if anyone is interested.


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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 02:30:45 -0400
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              "thomas e. nemeth" <103153.2417@COMPUSERVE.COM>
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Crombie,
I guess I'm at the been there, done that stage.
I'm going to check in with mack at times2tech and see if there are some
conflicts going on.
I did receive a note from the Greenwich people because Hal Goldstein of t=
he
Palmtop Paper noted my difficulties (Thanks Hal!!) but they have yet to g=
et
back to me.  =

I'll report back the results when available.
As usual, I greatly appreciate everyone's kind suggestions.

Tom

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 17:21:55 +1000
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A while back people wanted a crontab for DOS - something that would
run a program at specific times, automatically.

Yes, I know you can do this with the built-in ware; but some people
wanted to be able to do it in DOS (ie without the sys man memory overhead)

Well, anyway, I came across this:
        http://www.freespace.net/~arora/fw-dos.html


"Now & Then - 20k -     Can be programmed to run another program at a specific
                        interval i.e. every week."


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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 20:58:51 +0800
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Hi There!

If you need a alarm clock for your 100/200LX that can be seen from meters
away- high resolution numbers. Then go to SUPER page at www.palmtop.net


Jorgen
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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:54:06 +0800
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Hi there,

NUSOUND on SUPER works very well. The sound quality on the 200LX is not
bad. But I realized that there seams to be a limit on the maximum length
that can be played. I tried a 200Kb wav file with some recoder voices and
I could hear what was said, but NUSOUND didn't finish the whole file. Any
ideas about this?

Jorgen

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 08:25:38 -0700
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On 1998-04-24 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said to nancyb@best.com
   >Someone said they wanted the Outliner feature in sidekick plus
   >Paul who had the 2.0 also had a 1.5x copy not sure if that is the
   >same as sidekick plus or not.  Might ask him.

   >Sidekick 1.56/DOS

Paul,

Do you still have this version? Do you know if it
includes the Outliner?

Thanks,
nancyb@best.com


Net-Tamer V 1.08 Palm Top - Test Drive

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Just a test, testing Post/LX. Things goin good s'far...

Me.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:00:47 +0100
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In message <004601bd6e28$510ee600$17a6010a@raptor.wmaz.com>, River Wolf
<rivrwolf@HOM.NET> writes
>Mark it on your calendars, fellow palm-toppers. It looks like HP has
>officially given the first and only true palmtop PC the death sentence. Me,
>I'll reserve judgement until something better comes along (and you can bet
>it won't be WinCE).
>
>--Patrick McGouirk
>Computer Systems Administrator
>13WMAZ

Hi :-)

I use a 200LX and would not be without it. I have tried many other
alternatives with the exception of a WinCE machine.
I will resist WinCE simply because it is like re-inventing the wheel.

OTOH, I would like to see a development of the 200LX as it has been
around for so long.
It still has more actual functionality and portability than any WinCE
machine that I have seen to date (not sure about the WinCE pen only
based one).

Cheers
Ross
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How do I change the default dial-up number in Windows 95?  Earthlink did
a strange thing and switched numbers so that what was formerly a 56k is
now 28 k, and the reverse.  Of course, no notice was given, and the 28k
line (if that's what it really is) doesn't deliver the e-mail.

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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Chris England
>
> How do I change the default dial-up number in Windows 95?  Earthlink did
> a strange thing and switched numbers so that what was formerly a 56k is
> now 28 k, and the reverse.

Double-click on the My Computer icon on your desktop and click on dial-up
networking. In there you will see the icon/s representing your
connection/s - if you select the appropriate one and right-click on it you
may edit the number right here.

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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I haven't tried it but couldn't a person sync the 200LX with MS Schedule
and then import the Schedule file into Outlook?  I've thought about
doing this since we're now using Outlook at work.  At home I sync my
200LX with MS Schedule + 7.0 by using Puma's IntelliSync.  I know it
would more cumbersome than it should be but wouldn't it work?


Brown, William wrote:
>
> Yes, it was Brian McIlvaine.  I have tried it but it was very fussy about
> the files from the 200LX.  I did get it working, left it a while and when I
> came back to it I could not work it !  Brian says he has not the time to
> sort out any problems in it.  It did work so-so.   The Xlate/merge does at
> least give you pop-ups to handle collisions or duplicates.
>
> The ideal would be if Puma made a version of Intellisync for the HP.  But I
> gather they have been approached and are not interested.  Pity as they have
> both the interface to Outlook and the interface to the LX in their existing
> products.
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how much free memory under sys mgr is needed to run news2 from post/lx. I =
have quite a bit free. Has anyone already figured this tidbit out. I find =
myself having to run post/lx from DOS if I want to go online and do =
newsgroups.

Darren.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 18:09:59 -0700
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On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Ross Lewis wrote:
> I will resist WinCE simply because it is like re-inventing the wheel.

Now some of the WinCE machines can do dos.

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 22:29:52 +0000
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> I'm trying to connect my 200lx to my Citizen PN 60 printer.  The cable that
> comes with it terminates with a male plug, as do all the plugs in the
> Connectivity Kit.  Any suggestions on where I could buy an adapter?
> Thanks,
> Don

I think you need a serial to parallel adapter.
 Check  http://www.marcan-dist.com/
Nelson

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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:03:36 EDT
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Costello:  Hey, Abbott!
> Abbot:     Yes, Lou?
> Costello:  I just got my first computer.
> Abbot:     That's great Lou. What did you get?
> Costello:  A Pentium II-266, with 40 Megs of RAM,
>            a 2.1 Gig hard drive, and a 24X CD-ROM.
> Abbot:     That's terrific, Lou
> Costello:  But I don't know what any of it means!!
> Abbot:     You will in time.
> Costello:  That's exactly why I am here to see you.
> Abbot:     Oh?
> Costello:  I heard that you are a real computer expert.
> Abbot:     Well, I don't know-
> Costello:  Yes-sir-ee. You know your stuff. And
>            you're going to train me.
> Abbot:     Really?
> Costello:  Uh huh. And I am here for my first lesson.
> Abbot:     O.K. Lou. What do want to know?
> Costello:  I am having no problem turning it on, but
>            I heard that you should be very careful how
>            you turn it off.
> Abbot:     That's true.
> Costello:  So, here I am working on my new computer
>            and I want to turn it off. What do I do?
> Abbot:     Well, first you press the Start button, and
>            then-
> Costello:  No, I told you, I want to turn it off.
> Abbot:     I know, you press the Start button-
> Costello:  Wait a second. I want to turn it off. Off.
>            I know how to start it. So tell me what to do.
> Abbot:     I did.
> Costello:  When?
> Abbot:     When I told you to press the Start button.
> Costello:  Why should I press the Start button?
> Abbot:     To shut off the computer.
> Costello:  I press Start to stop.
> Abbot:     Well Start doesn't actually stop the computer.
> Costello:  I knew it! So what do I press.
> Abbot:     Start
> Costello:  Start what?
> Abbot:     Start button.
> Costello:  Start button to do what?
> Abbot:     Shut down.
> Costello:  You don't have to get rude!
> Abbot:     No, no, no! That's not what I meant.
> Costello:  Then say what you mean.
> Abbot:     To shut down the computer, press-
> Costello:  Don't say, "Start!"
> Abbot:     Then what do you want me to say?
> Costello:  Look, if I want to turn off the computer,
>            I am willing to press the Stop button, the
>            End button and Cease and Desist button, but
>            no one in their right mind presses the Start
>            to Stop.
> Abbot:     But that's what you do.
> Costello:  And you probably Go at Stop signs, and Stop
>            at green lights.
> Abbot:     Don't be ridiculous.
> Costello:  I am being ridiculous? Well. I think it's
>            about time we started this conversation.
> Abbot:     What are you talking about?
> Costello:  I am starting this conversation right now.
>            Good-bye.

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:23:06 +0000
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Subject:      Re: Floppy Drive on LX
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hi
If you have a // card,
you can use a // to scsi interface
(like the trantor 348)
with a scsi floppy.
I didn't try it because I don't have a card.

regards
Alain

> Dear LX Friends,
> Is anyone successfully using a 3.5" Floppy Drive with their 200LX? I currently use my Zip Drive with my 200LX. I have a TransDigital Parallel Port Card that slips into my PCMCIA drive and works like > I have a Toshiba FDD Attachment case for use with
y Notebook. The connector is unique in design and I don't know the name or if it is manufacturer proprietary. It is a small "D" type connector. The > Here are my questions:
> 1.Does anyone use a 3.5" Floppy drive? (Recommendations?)
> 2.Does anyone use the floppy drive similar to my description?
> 3.Does each FDD require it's own driver?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ken Moore
>
> By the way, I appreciate the dialog on this e-mail community.
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Date:         Sat, 25 Apr 1998 23:36:29 -0500
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              Mike Goggin <mikeg@WANS.NET>
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Their recent announcement renewed my interest in Parlmtop.com, but I
can't seem to connect to them.

My modem dials and theirs answers, but the hand-shaking  sounds
continue until I press esc to abort it.  I've allowed at least 20
seconds before doing so.  I've also checked my settings against what is
posted on the palmtop trial web page.

The modem is a Cardinal 28.8 Kbps V.34  that I've barely used, but I
was able to use it with Datacomm to connect to a local bulletin board
system successfully.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Mike Goggin
Round Rock, TX

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:20:57 +0100
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              xavier caballe <xavi@CABALLE.COM>
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>Friday night (4-17-98) I was on the HP web site looking though the various
>pages about information on the 200lx while working on a server install at
>work. I turned around for about an hour and when I  came back the web site had
>changed.

Well, looks like they just redesigned its web site. In fact, if you follow the
"Start" button, you go to http://www.hp.com/handheld/products.html, where's
there's an 200LX ("Best Value Dos Handheld PC") and also a 300 and 620.

When you select the 200lx icon, it shows the old pages.

Xavi
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<HTML>
I just downloaded a copy of Quickmenu from the Neosoftware site at:
<BR><A HREF="http://www.neosoftware.com">http://www.neosoftware.com</A>
<BR>which is a complete version of the program unlike to copy posted on
the Super site. I would suggest that anyone who wants to take advantage
of the excellent program should download this version instead. I'm running
it under Software Carousel and I must say that it's truly amazing. There
is a major difference in the two versions from Super site and this one.
<BR>Tony Guzewicz</HTML>

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:03:40 +0100
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              Ross Lewis <ross@ESOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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In message <Pine.GSO.3.96.980425180903.4476A-100000@user1.teleport.com>,
Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com> writes
>On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Ross Lewis wrote:
>> I will resist WinCE simply because it is like re-inventing the wheel.
>
>Now some of the WinCE machines can do dos.

Hi :-)

Is that DOS or emulated DOS ?
If this is emulated DOS what jins of performance would be expected ?

Cheers
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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 08:48:13 -0700
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Ross Lewis wrote:
> >Now some of the WinCE machines can do dos.
> Is that DOS or emulated DOS ?
Emulated
> If this is emulated DOS what jins of performance would be expected ?
Don't know.  It does seem to be a major topic on the palmtop newsgroups.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 15:19:23 +0100
From: Ian Dean <id@pyram-id.demon.co.uk>
To: WindowsCE-Talk <WindowsCE-Talk@WindowsCE.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsce, comp.sys.palmtops,
    comp.os.ms-windows.ce, comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: ANN: XTCE demo is available

The demo is available from:

http://www.pyram-id.demon.co.uk/XTCE.html

Currently ONLY the following machines are supported:

HP320LX (CE 1.0 & CE 2.0)
HP360LX
HP620LX
Sharp HC4100
Sharp HC4500
Casio A20

I should have a NEC MP700 version on the website in a day or two.

Please don't try and download any version not specifically designed for
your machine, because it WON'T WORK.

The documentation doesn't really exist at this point, so if you need it
you might want to wait a week or two for an updated version...

Please try to remember that there is only one of me, and I have a
dial-up mail account, so don't send me any email unless it is ABSOLUTELY
necessary.

I will try and support all the CE machines (including the old ones), but
please be patient...

There are a no. of restrictions in this version, but I'll leave those up
to you to find out...

Good Luck!

Ian Dean

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 11:51:28 -0400
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              "David K. Bialik" <dkbialik@J51.COM>
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I just purchased the Radio Shack NiMH Batteries and have a download of the
ABC\LX demo.  Does any body have any suggestions on setting up a 200LX to
train the batteries?

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:18:30 -0400
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I have 2 questions.
1. I have been successfully using a Radio Shack 12v 500 mA AC Adapter.
After getting a set of Ni Metal Hydride batteries from Thaddeus, the
adapter died. I was able to successfully charge the batteries initially
but after about 1 wk it was dead. Was this a coincidence or will this
adapter not work with these batteries?
2. Is the Deltorme Tripmate-LX combination a practical way to get
around an unfamiliar city? Do you need any additional hardware to make
the setup work? How does this combination compare to Garmin-LX
combination?

Thanks

Andy

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:40:12 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of
> Rick Schwaiger
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 1998 7:34 PM
>
> I haven't tried it but couldn't a person sync the 200LX with MS Schedule
> and then import the Schedule file into Outlook?  I've thought about
> doing this since we're now using Outlook at work.  At home I sync my
> 200LX with MS Schedule + 7.0 by using Puma's IntelliSync.  I know it
> would more cumbersome than it should be but wouldn't it work?

Not cumbersome at all Rick but an expensive solution considering the s/ware
involved is all commercial stuff. Being fortunate to have the pieces, i did
exactly this and was surprised to see just how quickly and efficiently the
software you mentioned all worked! It was far quicker that i had anticipated
and was all finished before i could get comfortable in my chair :-)
Appointments and Todos (complete with recurring appts and events) as well as
phonebook entries all go across as smooth as silk (and my phonebook is a
custom non-std layout). You have minimal editing in the outlook file
(contact names are 1 field in phonebook but 2 in Outlook). However ndb files
require a different approach if being brought into Outlook 98 as Intellisync
cannot handle these.

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 10:50:53 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> how much free memory under sys mgr is needed to run news2 from post/lx.
> I have quite a bit free. Has anyone already figured this tidbit out. I
> find myself having to run post/lx from DOS if I want to go online and =
do newsgroups.


Hi Darren,

As per. the help file its 270K for POST/LX & WWW/LX, add PalEdit its =
430k.

You should also run it under Maxdos.
With Maxdos installed and running from System Manager. I'm able to run
Works 2.0, DOSSHELL, Paledit, Jorj, WWW/LX, HV, all as external program
under POST/LX.


HTH

Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:25:42 -0400
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              Jonathan R Barrett <jonzann@JUNO.COM>
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>Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 21:03:20 -0700
>From:    Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
>Subject: Re: FlashCard Driver
>
>I am actual running Window 3.11 on a Omnibook 425 upgraded to 430
>software.
>The 425 has only 4 meg. I am using a parallel port ethernet adapter.
>
Actually, Kingston sold a 4 MB upgrade chip, so my 300 and 425 both ran 6
MB. Still not enough to run a full system in RAM with anything later than
DOS 5 & Win3.0. If you upgraded the (I assume you mean the D: drive)
software, it's a one-way trip. If you sent the machine in for the
upgrade, it almost certainly got a BIOS upgrade too, thus is virtually a
430.

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 14:28:51 -0400
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Subject:      Re: Floppy Drive on LX

>Date:    Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:55:21 -0400
>From:    "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OMNITRAINING.COM>
>Subject: Floppy Drive on LX
>
>Dear LX Friends,
>Is anyone successfully using a 3.5" Floppy Drive with their 200LX? I
>currently use my Zip Drive with my 200LX. I have a TransDigital
>Parallel Port Card that slips into my PCMCIA drive and works like a
>charm.
>I have a Toshiba FDD Attachment case for use with my Notebook. The
>connector is unique in design and I don't know the name or if it is
>manufacturer proprietary. It is a small "D" type connector. The shield
>measures .800" L by .150" W. Inside is a thin 26 conductor male edge
>connector intgral to the connector (13 fingers on each side). Sound
>familiar?
>Here are my questions:
>1.Does anyone use a 3.5" Floppy drive? (Recommendations?)

I cheat - I CPACK to my laptop or swap PC Cards.

>2.Does anyone use the floppy drive similar to my description?

It's a proprietary extension of the standard FDD interface - not a serial
or parallel adapter. BUT - VST makes a PC Card adapter housing for the
Toshiba removable FDD, CD-ROM, HDD, and their Select-Bay Zip drive. The
same people  who make the internal swappable Zip Drive for the Toshiba,
Think Pad, Power Book, and NEC(?) IOW - not usable as it ships; you could
buy an adapter that might work, if the card runs on an early PCMCIA
standard, if the necessary DOS driver support is there, if the driver
will run on a '186 chip, and if there's enough power available. Too many
"If"s for me! I'm thinking about getting the VST bay so I caan use my
Toshiba's CD-ROM drive externally, or pop in a Zip drive. If I do, will
try it on the 200 as well(but not too hard - see above!)

>3.Does each FDD require it's own driver?

Floppies you could run on the 200 would. The proprietary external ones on
laptops have firmware support. Your desktop uses a standard interface.

>
>Thanks in advance,
>Ken Moore

Jon Barrett
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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 12:46:52 -0700
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For So. CA folks only.  Sales in person.
See it to believe it.

$175 firm = 131meg type3 Maxtor hd + a special pcmcia card adaptor.
$195 firm = 170meg type3 Epson hd + a special pcmcia card adaptor.
$350 firm = for both.

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 13:04:31 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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> I just purchased the Radio Shack NiMH Batteries and have a download of =
the
> ABC\LX demo.  Does any body have any suggestions on setting up a 200LX =
to
> train the batteries?

Just run the Auto-Tune.




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
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Accurite Technologies makes a floppy drive for the 200lx in a nice =
portable package. They also make the double slot thingy that lets you use =
2 type II PCMCIA's or 1 type III Card.

Darren.

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> From: Jim Johnson <jjohnson@TMCC.COM>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Re: Official death of the 200lx???
> Date: Friday, 24 April 1998 03:43
>
> It's always a tradeoff of wants and needs.   I like the Toshiba Libretto.
> They've packed alot into a small form factor and the color screen is
GREAT!
> But it doesn't run on 2 double AA batteries and it since it's a
> sub-sub-notebook, it doesn't fit into my coat pocket.    The Psion comes
> close to an HP200LX.    But I don't believe that it runs DOS programs.
I

Sally Bowles had it wrong, "Life is a Compromise, Old Chum, Come join
the Com - Pro -  Mise..."

For me, the 200LX is the very best compromise, form factor vs portability,
power vs battery usage, it all adds up to a machine I would be very unhappy
without!

My LX lives with me in a hip-holster, down here in NZ nobody would ever
think
there was anything in a holster but a camera or cell-phone, so it causes no
heart-
stopping moments as and when I reach for my trusty computer at odd moments
during the day.

I have had & still own a few laptop/portable/notebook computers and a few
of
the desktop jobbies, but they all need so much carrying and battery care &
they
end up being the 2nd choice for my computational needs.

Dream machine: Toshiba Libretto!

The best news I heard was the release of a new version with a wider screen
and better battery life and a type III slot, better news for me, because
then
the earlier version, one perfectly acceptable to me, will start to turn up
at
good prices pre-owned...

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Chris,

I think it has to do with time lapsing on an unregistered copy of the
program. A work-a-round if you still want to try it out for a while is to
(when you are in the RED editor) press SHIFT-F7 to shell to DOS and use
the command "MODE BW80". EXIT the shell and you will be back in the
editor. You should be able to see the screen fine then.

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

>Has anyone had problems running Nettamer version 109?  I used to have
>it running briefly last Fall while I was on vacation. I decided to
>get serious again with it, and tried last night to get it started up
>again.  Alas, I found a strange problem whenever the program tried to
>start up the editor, either it's own RED.COM or one I suppled, Q
>edit.  Both instances the screen became hopelessly mangled, and yet I
>was able to issue the exit keys for the editor and get back to
>Nettamer.  However, even once I exited Nettamer, using either of
>these editors would cause the screen to be similarly mangled again
>until I re-booted the system.

>Any ideas?  I visited the Nettamer web site this morning, and see
>that I'm two versions behind.  I have downloaded the latest, but
>haven't tried it out yet. I'm hoping that this new version will solve
>all my problems (and even help me lose some weight 8-).


>-Chris Lott

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Thought you all might appreciate this. :)

> > > > >>Defendant (after being sentenced to 90 days in jail): Can I
> > > address the
> > > > >>court?
> > > > >>Judge:     Of course.
> > > > >>Defendant: If I called you a @#$%, what would you do?
> > > > >>Judge:     I'd hold you in contempt and assess an additional five
> > > days
> > > > >>in jail.
> > > > >>Defendant: What if I thought you were a @#$%?
> > > > >>Judge:     I can't do anything about that.  There's no law against
> > > > >>thinking.
> > > > >>Defendant: In that case, I think you're a @#$%

--
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Telephone +61 03  990 55194             http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
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Can anyone give me a pointer towards writing to the serial port of
the hplx in C?
This is for the midi project I mentioned earlier.

My Turbo C++ has a
        bioscom(cmd, byte, port);

function, but the manual is pretty silent on it. Can anyone tell me more?

Thanks
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Dear friends,
Is there anything that  HDM can do that Quickmenu can't?
Is it possible to start sys_manager applications like phone book,
appointment, etc when you are running them? And with
Software Carousel? Also where can we get this software?
Thank you all,
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Greetings,

    My Times2 double speed  32 meg machine is experiencing lockup
problems.  This usually occures when switching work areas with Software
Carousel.  Sometimes when powering up after removing or installing AC
power & an Apex modem.  I get a flashing dash in the upper left corner
of the screen.  Left Shift Menu will not end the Software Carousel
session.  Cntr Alt Del does nothing.  Cntr Alt On sometimes unlocks the
machine.  Usually I have to remove one of the main batteries for a
moment to clear the lockup.  Other strange symptoms include an
occasional lack of sound when dialing from WWW/LX or Post.  Also
sometimes the time and date are garbled on the topcard and the
description under the Post/LX and Online icons.  Any thoughts would be
appreciated.
    My appologies if you get multiple versions of this post.  I have
tried to send it twice today with the 200LX. Nothing showed up in my
email.   This version is from my steeeenking Windoze laptop.

Colin

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              Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
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Folks,

I know there was a version of ACT! for the 95lx.  I wondered if there was
one for the 200lx?  Does the 95lx version work on a 200lx?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:32:15 -0700
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Hello Me:   :)

> Just a test, testing Post/LX. Things goin good s'far...
>
> Me.

Yep, checked your headers and I see this:

X-Mailer: POST/LX 2.0

So looks like you are moving on it. I like victories like
this: Humans Subdue Machines! :-)

BTW: How did you fix the accurite issue with the double slot?

Best Regards,

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Darren,

> how much free memory under sys mgr is needed to run news2 from post/lx. =
I
> have quite a bit free. Has anyone already figured this tidbit out. I =
find
> myself having to run post/lx from DOS if I want to go online and do
> newsgroups.

As much as possible! You need to probably close ALL the
applications.

May I suggest two steps:

1. Get the new POST2.EXE archive, which now includes the
official release version of News/LX - you may already have
done it. If not got to www.dasoft.com, floow link to WWW/LX
Plus page, then link for download, and you'll find a link to
POST2.EXE - that's the one. It was posted Friday night I
believe.

2. In SUPER there is a fantastic utility called MAXDOS. It
basically moves EVERYTHING out of memory to disk, to give you
basically all the memory there is (minus a few things, of
course!) I do not use it, but people have reported exquisite
results with it!

Good luck!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Mitch, I think the faster speed is driving the CPU faster, but
not the serial port. Some work is done faster, so you _do_ get
better throughput on serial ports and disk, but it is only in
terms of the work that the cpu has to do.

In the case of serial ports on the palmtop they are limited to
approximately 19200, but will operate faster. I use a 33.6 but
never get more than about 20,500 at most.

The tech guy at Apex (makers of great PCMCIA 33.6 that uses
only 138mAh and thus WILL work well on the palmto!) has
measured about 28,900, and even once or twice I believe a hair
over 30,000, but these are totally "perfect" conditions.

Best Regards,

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At 12:35 27/04/98 +1000, you wrote:
>Can anyone give me a pointer towards writing to the serial port of
>the hplx in C?
>This is for the midi project I mentioned earlier.
>
>My Turbo C++ has a
>        bioscom(cmd, byte, port);
>
>function, but the manual is pretty silent on it. Can anyone tell me more?

That function allows to call directly the BIOS serial functions, but they
suck.

You have two options:

1- Use the system manager serial communication functions. The disadvantages
are that you will not be able to run your application in a desktop (I use
to do this while programming) and that even in the palmtop you'll have to
run it from the system manager.

2- Use one of the many serial communications libraries available. If none
does, let me know, since I wrote my own several years ago, and now its
rock-stable and widely tested under Turbo C and Borland C++.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:33:08 +0100
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But how would you synch back the other way, from Outlook onto the 200LX ?

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:03:01 +0100
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I used Intellilink with SCH+ for quite a while, but never got the ToDo to
come across - the PC s/w just crashed.  Do I read correctly that you used
Intellisync and it was fine ?

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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00:31 -0400, Automatic digest processor wrote:

>From:    Andrew Zarick <andymd@MCI2000.COM>

>2. Is the Deltorme Tripmate-LX combination a practical way to get
>around an unfamiliar city? Do you need any additional hardware to make
>the setup work? How does this combination compare to Garmin-LX
>combination?

Not much help here, but I'd love to hear some discussion of making maps
for apps like LXGPS. In particular one difficulty is "calibrating" the
maps. E.G. the Xerox Web site makes it easy to center a map on a specific
point, but I can't figure out how to mark or compute points in the
corners for LXGPS. I'm considering StreetAtlas 5, but does it run well
under OS/2 and WINE/WABI? Are there any free alternatives?

As I read the  description for Street Atlas and its laptop navigation
features, I can't help but think how much better suited a palmtop is for
this task. One could even pack a palmtop when hiking, though it would be
crazy to leave the topo maps and compass behind!

Back to the Tripmate: CompUSA has it on sale for $119 right now, normally
~$159, and that includes the $39 Street Atlas 5. Compare that with a
Garmin 12 at $150 + SA 5 at $39 and you've saved $70, though you're
getting a GPS receiver that's unusable without a computer.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:57:23 +0200
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I am running ACT! on my HP200LX. Have done it for years.
As far as I remember I bought it for HP95. Having invested in the HP200 I
think I remember, that I had to download a patch
from Symantec.

Flemming Nielsen

PS: Due to ACT! ver 3.0 I have just stopped using OS/2.
My heart is bleeding!
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From: Patrick West <pccare@TELEPORT.COM>
To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu>
Date: 27. april 1998 07:12
Subject: ACT! for HPLX


>Folks,
>
>I know there was a version of ACT! for the 95lx.  I wondered if there was
>one for the 200lx?  Does the 95lx version work on a 200lx?
>
>Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
>PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
>Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu
>
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:19:32 +0100
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              "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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My thought is that the main benefit (maybe the only one!) of a PC/GPS
combination is the ability to load your own maps.

I really don't see anyone stopping on top of a wet mountain to get out the
LX (in a bag to keep it dry?) and read off the location.   I have a Magellan
hand-held GPS, and I find that even that is too slow to get a reading to be
used on the move.  Unless you walk holding it out in front of you (or tied
on your head!) , the antenna is not oriented while you walk along with it in
your pocket.   Walking that way means you fall down a lot of holes, because
your eye is not where it should be.

So you stop to see where you are...and 20 seconds later the rest of your
party are way down the track.

You can read it when you take a break, but that's not always the moment when
you take the wrong turn.

In a vehicle it is a much more useful tool; with a higher rate of movement
it really can tell you how long it will be until you need to sit up and
start reading the exit signs on the autobahn.   I'm sure the LX in a cradle
with external power would be good at that...with a backlight.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:23:35 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: serial port com in C?
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> 2- Use one of the many serial communications libraries available. If none
> does, let me know, since I wrote my own several years ago, and now its
> rock-stable and widely tested under Turbo C and Borland C++.

Regarding the second option, there's an excellent book on programming
serial ports published by Sams.  It's called "C Programmers Guide to
Serial Communications" by Campbell.  It also includes an accompanying
library that the author works through the design in the text.  A
floppy disk can be ordered separately if you want to avoid entering
all the functions by hand.  It also includes the very best ASCII wall
chart that I have ever seen, along with a *very* thorough and
fascinating overview of the history of serial communications.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 23:32:36 +1000
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              Bruce Henderson <aveng@STANDARD.NET.AU>
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Regarding this topic there may be a solution on the way - The new Rolodex REX (
a PCMCIA card sized organiser) has  software which converts from Outlook,
Agenda, Sidekick plus a few others -- and I believe soon to be included some  HP
palmtops. The REX is a joint development by Franklin, Citizen and the software
side is handled by Starfish Software so perhaps it might be worthwhile talking
to them to see if their convertor will export/import data in a format usable by
the HP --

Bruce Henderson

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 21:45:31 +0800
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              Jorgen Wallgren <jorgen@PALMTOP.NET>
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Yes, you can transfer your data from a HP Windows CE palmtop- 360/620LX =
to a
REX card. But this is not for HP 200LX.

Jorgen

> Regarding this topic there may be a solution on the way - The new =
Rolodex REX (
> a PCMCIA card sized organiser) has  software which converts from =
Outlook,
> Agenda, Sidekick plus a few others -- and I believe soon to be included =
some  HP
> palmtops. The REX is a joint development by Franklin, Citizen and the =
software
> side is handled by Starfish Software so perhaps it might be worthwhile =
talking
> to them to see if their convertor will export/import data in a format =
usable by
> the HP --
>
> Bruce Henderson

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Date:         Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:56:46 -0700
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Do we have any Clipper Programers on this list?  I purchased Clipper 5.0 (DOS)
at a used book store, with original disks & manuals, only to find several disks
were bad.  Unfortunatly disks 4 & 5 have the exact same files. The most
important file missing is PLINK86.EXE.  It would be nice to have the editor as
well.  It would help me out if someone could send me this file.  I would be
willing to fax a photo copy of the disks to prove ownership.

Thanks in advance.

Don
p.s. If the files are greater then 50K please email to collins@ns.net

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 10:10:54 -0500
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              Dave Brezina <dbrezina@INTELPRO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: two questions- AC adapters and Deltorme-tripmate
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Andrew Zarick wrote:

> I have 2 questions.
> 1. I have been successfully using a Radio Shack 12v 500 mA AC Adapter.
>
> After getting a set of Ni Metal Hydride batteries from Thaddeus, the
> adapter died. I was able to successfully charge the batteries
> initially
> but after about 1 wk it was dead. Was this a coincidence or will this
> adapter not work with these batteries?
> 2. Is the Deltorme Tripmate-LX combination a practical way to get
> around an unfamiliar city? Do you need any additional hardware to make
>
> the setup work? How does this combination compare to Garmin-LX
> combination?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
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When I bought NiMH batteries at Radio Shack for my HP320LX I also bought
a Radio Shack charger that has a NiCd/NiMH setting.  The Windows CE
upgrade to version 2.0 put NiCd/NiMH as an option, so on the 320 LX, I
just put in the batteries and the HP charger has worked great.  In fact,
I have yet to switch batteries, even when using a PCMCIA memory card.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:39:13 -0700
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              "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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I know this is off-topic, but I'm getting a little desperate.

The mouse on my wife's Omnibook isn't working (stopped suddenly).  When
Windows boots, it says it needs MOUSE.DRV version 8.20 or later.  Does
anyone on the list have this file?  I have checked with HP, they no longer
have the files for these machines.



Thanks!

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:58:36 +0200
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              Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
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Does anyone use Maxtor MobileMax Cards on the Hp200lx ?
Opinions?


          TNX a lot
                Raffaele Gaioni

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 09:03:48 -0700
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              Karl DeLyria <kdelyria@METASKILLS.COM>
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It shoild be on the D: drive under omnibook. The 530 has some code in ROM.

karl

At 08:39 AM 4/27/98 -0700, you wrote:
>I know this is off-topic, but I'm getting a little desperate.
>
>The mouse on my wife's Omnibook isn't working (stopped suddenly).  When
>Windows boots, it says it needs MOUSE.DRV version 8.20 or later.  Does
>anyone on the list have this file?  I have checked with HP, they no longer
>have the files for these machines.
>
>
>
>Thanks!
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:56:35 -0400
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              Larry Brockman <lbrockman@MINDSPRING.COM>
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Comments: To: "Claud G. Cameron" <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>

I don't know why you say this is off-topic, Claud.  This is an omnibook
list.  I am sorry i don't have the drivers, since I only have an HP300, but
I am really disappointed in HP. It is in my opinion one of the best computer
companies around, but how much space could it take to store some files?  Do
they really make that many machines that they can't keep a set of files on a
floppy for the ones that survive?

They are missing a big opportunity here.  They can make old HP users
enthusiastic about the company with such little effort.  Oh well, so goes
the modern Amercian company.

Sorry about the vent, your plight just kind of made me mad at HP, but I will
use my 300, and my 100, with all the drivers built into ROM and be happy
again.  Good luck, I'm sure someone here will have what you need.

Regards,
-----Original Message-----
From: Claud G. Cameron <cameronc@IX.NETCOM.COM>
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Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 11:45 AM
Subject: Omnibook 530


>I know this is off-topic, but I'm getting a little desperate.
>
>The mouse on my wife's Omnibook isn't working (stopped suddenly).  When
>Windows boots, it says it needs MOUSE.DRV version 8.20 or later.  Does
>anyone on the list have this file?  I have checked with HP, they no longer
>have the files for these machines.
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:20:57 -0400
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I am using ver 5.2 but it has RTLINK.EXE as the linker. Might have an old copy of
ver 5.0 around. Will look for it.

Dave

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:08:42 -0600
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              Stephen Ward <sward@FLASH.NET>
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I've used the 4 MB Mobile Max cards on both my 1 MB 200LX units for
3-4 years now without any problems.

Stephen Ward




<<<<<>>>>> Original Message from Raffaele Gaioni, on 27 Apr 98,
17:58

| Does anyone use Maxtor MobileMax Cards on the Hp200lx ?
| Opinions?
|
|
|           TNX a lot
|                 Raffaele Gaioni
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:15:46 -0400
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              River Wolf <rivrwolf@HOM.NET>
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I was recently offered a great deal on a new Citizen PN50 and decided that,
although it isn't the latest/greatest, it would serve my needs for the 200lx
as I rarely print on the road anyway. I know that I can use a
serial/parallel converter, but I was wondering if anyone has seen a custom
cable like the one Shier makes for the PN60?

FYI: I've already asked Shier about this and they don't have anything.

--Patrick McGouirk
Computer Systems Administrator
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:30:35 -0500
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I have one, works fine. Its a 4 meg, 1994 Flash
card that uses TrueFFS. Which means a device
driver on the LX (and a different driver on my Notebook).
Read speed is OK, but write speed is slow.




Raffaele Gaioni wrote:

> Does anyone use Maxtor MobileMax Cards on the Hp200lx ?
> Opinions?
>
>           TNX a lot
>                 Raffaele Gaioni
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:31:18 -0500
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The next meeting of the Kansas City area palmtop user group is Tue, May =
12
at 6:45pm.  E-mail me if you would like more information and/or directions=
.

gfelkner@sky.net

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:05:40 -0400
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              "William T. Hole" <wth@NLM.NIH.GOV>
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Subject:      palmtop.com and list of cc:mail modem setup strings
Comments: cc: martin@espmail.com

Martin Paul has been very helpful in setting me up; I also needed
to change the setup string for my modem (thanks to Longden C. Loo's pointer)
I am very satisfied with palmtop.com!

I have also decided to contribute and have POP3 access with forwarding,
so that I can use this account for personal email from the road via
the 200lx as well as through POP3 at desktops.

Here is Martin's reply to Mike Goggin's message re: problems connecting

--Bill

Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:48:57 -0700
From: martin@espmail.com (Martin Paul)
To: wth@nlm.nih.gov (William T. Hole)
Cc: mikeg@wans.net
Subject: Re: HPLX listserv re: problem connecting to palmtop.com

Try this string for Cardinal MVP288C2 PCMCIA:

SETUP=AT&F1&D2&S1W1\A3

You can get a list of hundreds of setup strings by modem make &
model for cc:Mail at:

ftp://ftp.support.lotus.com/pub/comm/ccmail/modems/modems.zip

They are not in the format of the hayes.mdm file but you can
find the AT command.  I'm not on the HP LX list, so somebody
might want to forward this FTP address to them.


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Author:  wth@nlm.nih.gov (William T. Hole) at Internet
Date:    4/27/98 3:35 PM



My Megahertz XJ3144 needed this init:
  AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0
which I entered by copying d:/_DAT\HAYES.MDM to C:\_DAT\; editing
C:\_DAT\HAYES.MDM and changing SETUP to this:
  SETUP=AT&F&C1&D2&S1&MWS95=0

I don't know why there are duplicate lines fro SETUP in the ROM HAYES.MDM file;
I left only the one above in the C:\_dat\ copy which I use.

--Bill

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 15:18:34 -0500
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              Bob Roberts <terbocom@TERBOCOM.COM>
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This sounds like a good system, and one I might try.
What exactly gets stripped out when you do the "remove>before..." thing?
Are records stripped by entry date, due date, or what?
Thanks,
Bob

At 08:33 AM 4/22/98 +0100, you wrote:
>I have been toying with this problem for years. I have a process of
>rolling over ADB files every month that works well just now.
>
>1) Keep one file current named either APR98.ADB or WEEK1798.ADB if the
>month version is too slow. The my current file has two months of records
>and ALL  future appointments and TODOs
>2) At the beginning of the next term,  copy the current dab to the name
>of the next term, say MAY98.ADB
>3) Open MAY98.ADB and strip out the earlier unwanted records, which
>would be for the month of March in this case.
>USE File > Remove >Before > 01-Apr-98.
>4) Open the APR98.ADB and remove all records before the beginning of the
>month and after the end. You will have to go to <F5> the end of the
>month and manually delete all of the incomplete TODO list.
>This leaves a nice compact file for each month. The TODO list only shows
>the completed TODOs . It makes the file very easy to review and search.
>Lastly)  I merge each cleaned month file into a 1998.ADB which I keep on
>the 100LX.
>
>The speed upgrade still sounds like a good idea also.
>
>Marto
>>----------
>>From:  Quinton Jones JrÝSMTP:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
>>Sent:  22 April 1998 07:22
>>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
>>Subject:       Re: multiple appointment files
>>
>>> Another thing you can do to speed up the appointment book is to clean it
>>> out every so often - use the File-Remove or File-Extract functions to clean
>>> old appointments from the file.  You can name the archive, so that you can
>>> review it if you need to.  These I store on the desktop, but you can keep
>>> them with you if you think you'll need them.
>>
>>To add to Claud's suggestions, you mite think about get the speed
>>upgrade. It would be $50.00 well spent.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Qman...
>>
>>
>>ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 13:26:42 -0700
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              Eric Wong <egwong@NETCOM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: serial port com in C?
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Chris Lott wrote:
>
> Regarding the second option, there's an excellent book on programming
> serial ports published by Sams.  It's called "C Programmers Guide to
> Serial Communications" by Campbell.  It also includes an accompanying
> library that the author works through the design in the text.  A
> floppy disk can be ordered separately if you want to avoid entering
> all the functions by hand.  It also includes the very best ASCII wall
> chart that I have ever seen, along with a *very* thorough and
> fascinating overview of the history of serial communications.
>

A nice online resource for programming hardware can be found
at "Tomi Engdahl's PC hardware pages":
    http://junitec.ist.utl.pt/einfo/pc/interface.html

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 16:48:38 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98
Comments: To: "Brown, William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Brown, William
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 1998 6:03 AM
>
> I used Intellilink with SCH+ for quite a while, but never got the ToDo to
> come across - the PC s/w just crashed.  Do I read correctly that you used
> Intellisync and it was fine ?

Yes, on my desktop pentium system it worked very well - no problems with
appts or todos. Maybe i was just lucky? <g>

BTW: I used IntelliSync by Puma and not IntelliLink - perhaps therein lies
the difference...

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      FS: 4MB upgrade, 2MB memory chips for 4MB machine owners, and SDK
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Hi, folks:

I have the following for sale:

1- 4MB memory upgrade. (Asking $50).
2- 2MB memory chips used in upgrades (KM416V1204-L6). FOR UPGRADING 4MB
machines to 6MB. (Asking $15 each).
3- Software Development Kit as sold by Thaddeus Computing Inc. Never
opened, never used. (Asking $50).
4- 10MB (uncompressed) Viking (SunDisk manufactured) ATA flash card (Asking
$100, recently bough a 40MB one).

For sale preferably in EUROPE.

If interested, please read on for further information about those items and
reasons of sale:


I owned a 4MB machine. 4MB models are just 2MB models with a 2MB upgrade
board already plugged in. This upgrade board is designed and has room for
two 2MB chips, but only one is soldered in. So, just soldering another
memory chip of the right type will result in a full-featured 4MB upgrade
just like the ones sold by Times2Tech and Marcan Dist.

I bought a 4MB upgrade and then my machine was 6MB. I was stuck with the
original 2MB board. Recently, I got to buy the required memory chips,
soldered in the second chip, and placed the upgrade back to my machine.

So, now I have the 4MB upgrade I bought, and some 2MB chips that can be
used to do the same I did to my 4MB machine, this is, upgrading it to 6MB.

This upgrade takes the following steps:

1- Open your 4MB machine.
2- Unplug the 2MB upgrade.
3- Scratch the pads for the new chip in order to remove the green
protection layer. This is easily done in 5 minutes with a x-acto knife.
4- Solder the chip on the board. Ideally you should use a tiny SMD
soldering iron, but I guess it can be also done with a small enough one.
5- Plug the upgrade back.
6- Close the 200LX.

And about the SDK, it was erroneously double-ordered by my company, so it
is as it came from Thaddeus, still into the mail packaging, never opened.

I want to sell the 10MB flash card because it's been replaced by a 40MB
one. I can provide speed tests if requested.

To summarize, I have one 4MB memory upgrade (bought in january, so it
should still have warranty, I can provide the sale invoice), THREE 2MB
chips, ONE SDK, and a 10M ATA flash card for sale.

Regards. Nacho.

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              Bill Childers <childers@GARLIC.COM>
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Subject:      Re: 4MB upgrade, 2MB memory chips for 4MB machine owners, and SDK
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I'm interested in one of the 2MB upgrade chips, if you've got one =
available.

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From:   Ignacio Garc=EDa  P=E9rez ÝSMTP:igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES¨
Sent:   Monday, April 27, 1998 2:39 PM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
Subject:        FS: 4MB upgrade, 2MB memory chips for 4MB machine owners, and =
SDK

Hi, folks:

I have the following for sale:

1- 4MB memory upgrade. (Asking $50).
2- 2MB memory chips used in upgrades (KM416V1204-L6). FOR UPGRADING 4MB
machines to 6MB. (Asking $15 each).
3- Software Development Kit as sold by Thaddeus Computing Inc. Never
opened, never used. (Asking $50).
4- 10MB (uncompressed) Viking (SunDisk manufactured) ATA flash card =
(Asking
$100, recently bough a 40MB one).

For sale preferably in EUROPE.

If interested, please read on for further information about those items =
and
reasons of sale:


I owned a 4MB machine. 4MB models are just 2MB models with a 2MB upgrade
board already plugged in. This upgrade board is designed and has room =
for
two 2MB chips, but only one is soldered in. So, just soldering another
memory chip of the right type will result in a full-featured 4MB upgrade
just like the ones sold by Times2Tech and Marcan Dist.

I bought a 4MB upgrade and then my machine was 6MB. I was stuck with the
original 2MB board. Recently, I got to buy the required memory chips,
soldered in the second chip, and placed the upgrade back to my machine.

So, now I have the 4MB upgrade I bought, and some 2MB chips that can be
used to do the same I did to my 4MB machine, this is, upgrading it to =
6MB.

This upgrade takes the following steps:

1- Open your 4MB machine.
2- Unplug the 2MB upgrade.
3- Scratch the pads for the new chip in order to remove the green
protection layer. This is easily done in 5 minutes with a x-acto knife.
4- Solder the chip on the board. Ideally you should use a tiny SMD
soldering iron, but I guess it can be also done with a small enough one.
5- Plug the upgrade back.
6- Close the 200LX.

And about the SDK, it was erroneously double-ordered by my company, so =
it
is as it came from Thaddeus, still into the mail packaging, never =
opened.

I want to sell the 10MB flash card because it's been replaced by a 40MB
one. I can provide speed tests if requested.

To summarize, I have one 4MB memory upgrade (bought in january, so it
should still have warranty, I can provide the sale invoice), THREE 2MB
chips, ONE SDK, and a 10M ATA flash card for sale.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:07:42 -0400
Reply-To:     "Ken A. Moore" <KenAMoore@OmniTraining.com>
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Subject:      Re: Outlook 98 (A call for Papers?)

Ian,
What you wrote about transfering and importing the Appointments and Todos from LX to Schedule+ and Outlook was informative, encouraging and inspiring.. I would love to have more details. What I benefit greatly from is when people write detailed procedures on these kind of findings in the Palmtop Paper by Thaddeus. It is these kind of articles that kept me subscribing even when the Win CE articles were infiltrating at one time.
I am an avid user of my Zip Drive with my 200LX because of an article written by a gentleman named Tom Boyles of San Jose. He took the time to write the step by step procedures, list of necessary parts and sources and what could be done.
Here is an idea: If you have a procedure that would be beneficial to folks like myself, but requires more space than feasible on this e-mail list, perhaps a well written article contributed to the Palmtop Paper would be in order. Or, how about this? I wonder if it is possible if our friends at the SuperSite would have space for Artices (detailed procedures) written in a text format. Just a thought.
Sorry to be so long-winded,
Ken Moore
-----------Snip-----------
Rick Schwaiger wrote:
I haven't tried it but couldn't a person sync the 200LX with MS Schedule and then import the Schedule file into Outlook?  I've thought about doing this since we're now using Outlook at work.  At home I sync my 200LX with MS Schedule + 7.0 by using Puma's IntelliSync.  I know it would more cumbersome than it should be but wouldn't it work?
Ian's response:
 It was far quicker that i had anticipated
and was all finished before i could get comfortable in my chair Appointments and Todos (complete with recurring appts and events) as well as
phonebook entries all go across as smooth as silk (and my phonebook is a
custom non-std layout). You have minimal editing in the outlook file
(contact names are 1 field in phonebook but 2 in Outlook). However ndb files
require a different approach if being brought into Outlook 98
Ian C. Melville

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 19:17:13 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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*****
Special thanks to hplx@comports.com for the suggestion of this, and
some ideas to improve the latest version.
*****

Now available at my site is a utility, CIC200, which is a good replacement
for the CIC100 built into the palmtop's ROM drive.

It uses up 1K of RAM instead of 7K, and can be unloaded.

It's also useful to users of ethernet cards on the palmtop (such as the
Silicom card or the Accton cards).  With CIC200, you will no longer have
to reboot to use your modem and flash cards again!

Download it at:

http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/cic200.zip

Soon it should be available on SUPER as well.

Please report all bugs to me.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Apr 1998 20:38:18 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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By the way, I should have mentioned to everyone:

Don't run CIC200 /gen 1.  Just run CIC200.  No arguments, unless you want
to unload it.  Then do CIC200 U.  Otherwise, don't use any arguments.

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On 1998-04-26 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >Do we have any Clipper Programers on this list?  I purchased
   >Clipper 5.0 (DOS) at a used book store, with original disks &
   >manuals, only to find several disks were bad.  Unfortunatly disks 4
   >& 5 have the exact same files. The most important file missing is
   >PLINK86.EXE.  It would be nice to have the editor as well.  It
   >would help me out if someone could send me this file.  I would be
   >willing to fax a photo copy of the disks to prove ownership.
   >Thanks in advance.
   >Don
   >p.s. If the files are greater then 50K please email to collins@ns.
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I'm pretty sure I could find it. Let me know if you still need it.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
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It's one of the adaptors that comes with the HP Connectivity kit - there are
3 of them. One has a picture of a printer on it, one a telephone, and one a
monitor. If you were plugging into the back of a laser printer that had both
serial and parallel ports, and you were going into the serial port, all you
would need would be the HP cable and the adaptor with the printer on it. All
that does is let the cable actually fit on the standard serial port (HP's is
not a "standard" serial port). If on the other hand you are "talking" to a
serial to parallel converter, the adaptor required to connect to the
"standard" serial side in the one with the telephone on it - not the
printer. I fooled around for ages trying to get the printer to respond and
all the S/P people and HP for that matter could say was 'it should work'.
The problem was that I was using the printer adaptor and not the telephone
one. One would assume because you were going to a printer you'd use the one
with the printer on it, but actually you are going to S/P converter which is
then going to a printer!

Yes the wires do swap. The best bet is when you are purchasing - get them to
show it working before you buy. Regards, Crombie Redd
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Date: Thursday, 23 April 1998 6:06
Subject: Re: printing problem saga


>could you please answer a question for me about this parallel/serial
>converter? I am thinking of purchasing one of these but I don't think I
>have one of those telephone adapters you mentioned. What does this part
>actually accomplish so that perhaps I can substitute a different  (i.e.,
>Radio Shack) one. In other words, is it a straight-thru connection or
>does it cross any wires?
>thanks,
>al
>
>
>On Wed, 22 Apr 1998 09:37:26 +1000
>Crombie Redd <crombie@NETSPACE.NET.AU> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>>
>> I print to a DeskJet 340 every day. It emulates the HP LaserJet - so make
>> sure you have that set on the LX. Because the DJ340 has a parallel
interface
>> I have to use a serial to parallel converter (see your manual for the
>> setting 9600, N, Com1, ). Between the HP cable and the serial\parallel
>> converter make sure you use the adaptor with the telephone on it - not
the
>> printer icon! I'm not sure about the 310, but my guess is it's the same.
>> Good luck.
>> Crombie Redd
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I wouldn't get rid of mine. In fact, I'm thinking of buying a brand new
32meg model and a 40meg flash card.
Regards, Crombie Redd

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 05:50:04 -0500
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Absolutely! Anything that makes the HP 100/200LX easier to use and/or =
more powerful, I will gladly place on Palmtop.Net. It would most likely =
go into the "Hacking With Jorgen" section that already contains some nice =
info but always needs more.

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

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              <igp@VLC.SERVICOM.ES>
Subject:      FS: 10MB (unconpressed) ATA flash card (Verbatim brand,
              SunDisk manufactured).
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Hi again, palmtoppers:

In a previous message I incorrectly stated that the card I have for sale
was Viking brand. It is the 10MB Verbatim model.

Asking $100 or better offer. For sale preferably in Europe.


For a (new) reference price ($252.95), please check the following page:

http://necxdirect.necx.com:8002/cgi-bin/auth/:guest/simple_q?cifilelnk=0001039

Thanks. Nacho.

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Everybody,

I had to take down the file I had posted on my web site.  Apparently it
doesn't work with all modems yet.  It seems to work with Megahertz modems,
Pretec modems, and AT&T.

I'll work on it and hopefully have a new version up later today, that
works for other modems as well.

Sorry about this.

--
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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>Does anyone use Maxtor MobileMax Cards on the Hp200lx ?
>Opinions?
>
> TNX a lot
>Raffaele Gaioni

I have a tiny 1 Mb (Stacked to 2 Mb) Maxtor MobileMax flash card bought for my
wife's 100LX. It has seen about three years of constant heavy use (I have the c:
drive automatically backing up to it every night, among other things) and it has
never shown any signs of wear.

BUT -- it is an old Intel-style flash card, so it requires a special driver to
operate in an LX. I use TFFS (True Flash File System) which came with the card.
If you are thinking of buying an Intel-style flash card, be sure you don't mind
loading that extra stuff into your precious memory.

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For the programmers among you...
What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?
Please take into account availability of what will almost certainly be
an older product as well as documentation (or user group support).
I've seen several compilers scattered across DOS websites but would like
the benefit of others' experiences.
Thanks

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> For the programmers among you...
> What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?

I use Power C by MIX software.  It has met my admittedly simple needs
over the years.  It used to be only $19.95, which was worth it for
the book alone.

I have also gotten Turbo C++ version 1.0 to run, but have had fits
getting the color scheme suitable for a B/W LCD display.  I
eventually gave up.

Hope this helps.

-Chris Lott


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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Johnson, Richard C wrote:
> For the programmers among you...
> What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?
> Please take into account availability of what will almost certainly be
> an older product as well as documentation (or user group support).
> I've seen several compilers scattered across DOS websites but would like
> the benefit of others' experiences.

I used PowerC for a class I took last year. The compiler is current and
commerically available at http://www.mixsoftware.com. For $25 you get an
ANSI standard C compiler and a great manual.

I'm also taking a C++ class now and use the Borland Turbo C++ compiler,
version 1.0. Tho I forgot which website I got it from. It's supposedly an
ANSI C compiler also, equivalent to Turbo C 2.0.

I haven't done any serious programming with either tho (yet).

- Longden

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Hi group-

Re S-P convertors;  It'll depend on which convertor you're talking
about whether or not you need ANY adaptor.  I think this discussion
started with mention of one made by Greenwich Instruments.  They
advertise two models in the current Palmtop Paper.  One is molded to a
cable for direct connection to the 100/200LX.  The other needs the HP
connectivity cable.  There used to be several available that were made
for the palmtops, and didn't need an adaptor. I have one that I got
from EduCalc years ago.  Generic S-P convertors will need the adaptor,
since they expect a "normal" serial port.

-PR

>  ...If on the other hand you are "talking" to a serial to parallel
> converter, the adaptor required to connect to the "standard" serial
> side in the one with the telephone on it - not the printer.
>
> Yes the wires do swap. The best bet is when you are purchasing - get
> them to show it working before you buy.

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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

> I use Power C by MIX software.  It has met my admittedly simple needs
> over the years.  It used to be only $19.95, which was worth it for
> the book alone.
>
> I have also gotten Turbo C++ version 1.0 to run, but have had fits
> getting the color scheme suitable for a B/W LCD display.  I
> eventually gave up.

Your price sounds right. Maybe I thought it was $25 because of shipping
adding a few bucks (for PowerC).

BTW...I've been running cmd line version of Borland C++ 1.0 (tcc.exe), but
I did get the IDE version going also (tc.exe), and I remember there was a
config item to set the thing into BW mode suitable for LCD. I ran it that
way for a few days before switching to cmd line which an old coder like me
finds more quick and interesting.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:32:21 -0400
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ On Behalf Of
> Ken A. Moore
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 1998 7:08 PM
>
> Ian,
> What you wrote about transfering and importing the Appointments
> and Todos from LX to Schedule+ and Outlook was informative,
> encouraging and inspiring.. I would love to have more details.
> What I benefit greatly from is when people write detailed
> procedures on these kind of findings in the Palmtop Paper by
> Thaddeus. It is these kind of articles that kept me subscribing
> even when the Win CE articles were infiltrating at one time.

Thank you for your kind words Ken and the challenge. <g> My experience with
transferring and synchronizing the 200lx pim functions <-> Outlook 97-98 is
still in its infancy and i'm afraid i don't have sufficient information to
'go to press' with but i shall certainly review my notes and discuss it with
Mitch at a later date for possible posting on SUPER. It is a great idea.

In the meantime if you have any specific questions i'd be happy to lend a
hand off the list.

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
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FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
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              Steven Lawson <stevel@SDL.CONTINET.COM>
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I haven't actually compiled anything on the LX, but I did do some of the
coding in Memo.  There's nothing like C coding on the LX to give your
left-shift thumb a workout!

for SHIFT( i=0 SHIFT; i SHIFT< 10 SHIFT; i-- SHIFT) SHIFT {

Strange thing is, there's not that much more shifted that
isn't shifted on a normal keyboard, it just *feels* like alot
more.

> > For the programmers among you...
> > What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:24:08 -0700
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Folks,

I have no experience using the hp200lx for anything non standard. I run
sidekick for dos but exit system manager to do that.

I have a small dos program (esdos.exe) that when added to system manager
freezes the system with
string space corrupt in module L  at address 7B6F:7B6F
requiring a cntr-alt-del reboot.
However the same program when run from filer does fine. I tried a bat file
to run it and the bat file starts the I get the same error message.

Ideas?

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
PGP Key fingerprint =  F9 95 AE C6 06 B3 E5 16  DE 51 21 A4 C9 DF DF 8D
Key available from pgp-public-keys@pgp.mit.edu

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Bob,

The objective is to end up with a clean 'one Month' only ADB for archive
and a two month current ADB which has all current and future records.
The date that you ask about is one that YOU select, next to the 'before'
radio button. All records are stripped, i.e. appointments and todo entries.
For the one month ADB, in step 4 below, the additional step is to use the
Remove>After. This should also remove all records from after a date you
select but there seems to be a bug here. It actually removes the Todo list
from after the current system date, only. However the appointments are
removed from the date you select ( the last day of the month). Since you
want to have one Month clean then you have to Go To the beginning of the
following month and remove the Todo list entries manually (Del, Tab, Enter
repeated).

The steps may appear complicated but the process takes less than 5 minutes
once you get familiar with it. I would advise that you stick to a pattern. I
do all of these steps on files copied to the PC.

Hope I didn't make the explanation too complicated.

Marto.
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> From:         Bob RobertsÝSMTP:terbocom@TERBOCOM.COM¨
> Sent:         27 April 1998 21:18
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> Subject:      Re: multiple appointment files
>
> This sounds like a good system, and one I might try.
> What exactly gets stripped out when you do the "remove>before..." thing?
> Are records stripped by entry date, due date, or what?
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
> At 08:33 AM 4/22/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >I have been toying with this problem for years. I have a process of
> >rolling over ADB files every month that works well just now.
> >
> >1) Keep one file current named either APR98.ADB or WEEK1798.ADB if the
> >month version is too slow. The my current file has two months of records
> >and ALL  future appointments and TODOs
> >2) At the beginning of the next term,  copy the current ADB to the name
> >of the next term, say MAY98.ADB
> >3) Open MAY98.ADB and strip out the earlier unwanted records, which
> >would be for the month of March in this case.
> >USE File > Remove >Before > 01-Apr-98.
> >4) Open the APR98.ADB and remove all records before the beginning of the
> >month and after the end. You will have to go to <F5> the end of the
> >month and manually delete all of the incomplete TODO list.
> >This leaves a nice compact file for each month. The TODO list only shows
> >the completed TODOs . It makes the file very easy to review and search.
> >Lastly)  I merge each cleaned month file into a 1998.ADB which I keep on
> >the 100LX.
> >
> >The speed upgrade still sounds like a good idea also.
> >
> >Marto
> >>----------
> >>From:  Quinton Jones JrÝSMTP:qman@EARTHLINK.NET¨
> >>Sent:  22 April 1998 07:22
> >>To:    HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> >>Subject:       Re: multiple appointment files
> >>
> >>> Another thing you can do to speed up the appointment book is to clean
> it
> >>> out every so often - use the File-Remove or File-Extract functions to
> clean
> >>> old appointments from the file.  You can name the archive, so that you
> can
> >>> review it if you need to.  These I store on the desktop, but you can
> keep
> >>> them with you if you think you'll need them.
> >>
> >>To add to Claud's suggestions, you mite think about get the speed
> >>upgrade. It would be $50.00 well spent.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Qman...
> >>
> >>
> >>ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your
> hands.
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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:37:09 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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>
> I have no experience using the hp200lx for anything non standard. I run
> sidekick for dos but exit system manager to do that.
>
> I have a small dos program (esdos.exe) that when added to system manager
> freezes the system with
> string space corrupt in module L  at address 7B6F:7B6F
> requiring a cntr-alt-del reboot.
> However the same program when run from filer does fine. I tried a bat file
> to run it and the bat file starts the I get the same error message.

Sounds like a memory limitation. When you run it from Filer, SysMgr gives
you all available memory. When you run it from the App Menu, you usually
get what the default allocation for DOS is (I think its about 96k on stock
LX's). You may want to increase the DOS memory allocation in Setup, or if
you have esdos.exe in an icon, follow it with the vertical bar to give it
the max memory.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:39:09 -0500
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On Simtel:
pcc12c.zip   175K  890620  Personal C compiler. Fully functional, C WARE
  Free, fast, small. Yet a full K&R (pre-ANSI) for small model programs.
  Great for small projects.


Also on Simtel, a great source code library:
snip9707.zip    965K  970709  ~2.4 Mb of free C source/info, 30% PC specific






Johnson, Richard C wrote:

> For the programmers among you...
> What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?
> Please take into account availability of what will almost certainly be
> an older product as well as documentation (or user group support).
> I've seen several compilers scattered across DOS websites but would like
> the benefit of others' experiences.
> Thanks
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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 10:53:10 -0700
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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Longden C. Loo wrote:
> if you have esdos.exe in an icon, follow it with the vertical bar to
> give it the max memory.
>
That did it!  Thanks so much. :)

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 11:23:00 -0700
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              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Stan Peters wrote:

> On Simtel:
> pcc12c.zip   175K  890620  Personal C compiler. Fully functional, C WARE
>   Free, fast, small. Yet a full K&R (pre-ANSI) for small model programs.
>   Great for small projects.
>
>
> Also on Simtel, a great source code library:
> snip9707.zip    965K  970709  ~2.4 Mb of free C source/info, 30% PC specific

I tried pcc prior to my C class, but it was missing some include
headers that I needed. Was told I could find those elsewhere for free but:

1) Registration for pcc cost more than PowerC (I thought it was about $30)

2) Even then, you'd have to dig for all the missing stuff on the web

3) It wasn't ANSI standard. My class required an ANSI std compiler and I
didn't want to deal with compatibility issues in the middle of class.

The PowerC software's manual alone is worth the price ($20). Excellent
tutorial and reference combined.

- Longden

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 12:11:51 -0700
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Greetings,

    In addition to the lock up problems I posted Sunday I have a new
episode.  This morning I was wakend by a beep and then a constant buzz
(like a dying insect) as ABC finished the charge routine.  The machine
was locked up and required main battery removal to break the lock.  Any
thoughts?

Colin

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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 14:12:31 -0600
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I have an 200lx 2mb and ace-link that I haven't used in a while.  I have =
a couple problems...=20

1.  Mt new computer shows COM1 and COM4 and I cannot get the 200lx to =
use COM4 so I have to unhook my mouse to communicate.

2.  Also, does anyone know how to get this to work under Windows95.  =
Currently, I have to reboot into DOS mode & unhook the mouse to transfer =
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Thanks

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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Mt new computer shows COM1 =
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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 17:05:51 -0400
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>From:    Andrew Zarick <andymd@MCI2000.COM>

>2. Is the Deltorme Tripmate-LX combination a practical way to get
>around an unfamiliar city? Do you need any additional hardware to make
>the setup work? How does this combination compare to Garmin-LX
>combination?

I've done this a few times.... Here's what I did.
I used Street Atlas on PC to display the map I want to use with LXGPS.
I used a screen grabber utility to grab the map off the screen
of the PC.  If your screen grabber can't convert the picture
into monochrome PCX files, you'll need another utility that will,
so that LXGPS will accept the map. I forget what tools I used,
but they were all shareware off the net (check www.shareware.com).

If you position the mouse cursor in Street Atlas over
the corners of the map, it shows Lat/Long co-ordinates at the
bottom of the screen (I think it's at the bottom, it's been
a few months since I did this).  Use this info to calibrate the
map for LXGPS.

This is a clunky procedure, I admit.  You'll need to capture
all the maps you want to see in LXGPS this way (no zooming in
and out on a single map).  Using a small PC laptop with
Street Atlas is a better solution for the car.  The Tripmate
would be too awkward to take walking, I think.  It would need
to face upwards all the time. Don't let it rain on your LX!  The
Tripmate *looks* waterproof, but I haven't tested it.

The Garmin - LX combination would be similar, only made
better by whatever information shows up on the Garmin screen.
Maybe the Garmin is more waterproof?  Also, it may have a better
GPS reciever design than the Tripmate and may stay locked
up better.  Side by side use is the best way to tell. If you're
visiting cities, that's a good test.  Tall buildings get in the
way a lot and the capability to receive more satellites
simultaneously is good if a building blocks one or more that is
currently being used.

I have found the GPS receiver in the Tripmate doesn't lock
up as quickly (and stay locked as well) as some as some of the more
expensive units.  The tripmate claims 12 channel parallel, but I
think must do some sort of scanning procedure rather than receiving
all 12 channels at once.

The only additional hardware you need is the standard
LX serial cable and a null modem adapter between tripmate
and the serial cable. The adapter that came with the 200LX worked
(with a gender bender or two in between).  This of course produced
a very awkward long cable with lots of places for the connectors
to fall apart, but it worked.

All in all, not a very robust solution, but good clean fun if
you're into it.  It kept me busy on a long trip, and was a good
excuse to get my wife to do the driving while I played with
cables and the palmtop.

Bill Schell
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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:17:09 -0400
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>Date:    Mon, 27 Apr 1998 17:58:36 +0200
>From:    Raffaele Gaioni <gaioni@CS.UNIBO.IT>
>Subject: Maxtor Flash disk opinions
>
>Does anyone use Maxtor MobileMax Cards on the Hp200lx ?
>Opinions?
>
>
>          TNX a lot
>                Raffaele Gaioni
>
I've got a 20 MB (TFFS) which I use on the 200 & Omnibook 600 (when I'm
runing Win3.1; haven't gotten around to loading the Win95 drivers for it
yet). It slows things down noticably whenever I start SysMgr compliant
apps (just the start-up, not in operation), even if I'm not using a file
on it. Doesn't have any effect on DOS apps however. It's definately
slower getting started than a SunDisk 10 MB I have. I mean in the 2-5
second range, not the fractional stopwatch kind of slower.

If you're offered one at a good price relative to the other memory cards
out there, I'd say go for it. Bear in mind - TFFS needs a driver. But -
Maxtor also made conventional ATA memory cards which don't need them (and
would - I'm guessing - probably not show the speed penalty).

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>
>>2. Is the Deltorme Tripmate-LX combination a practical way to get
>>around an unfamiliar city? Do you need any additional hardware to
>make
>>the setup work? How does this combination compare to Garmin-LX
>>combination?
>
>Not much help here, but I'd love to hear some discussion of making
>maps
>for apps like LXGPS. In particular one difficulty is "calibrating" the
>maps. E.G. the Xerox Web site makes it easy to center a map on a
>specific
>point, but I can't figure out how to mark or compute points in the
>corners for LXGPS. I'm considering StreetAtlas 5, but does it run well
>under OS/2 and WINE/WABI? Are there any free alternatives?

You can annotate the maps on most of the mapping programs with lat-long,
then capture them, either with a file conversion program like Paint Shop
Pro (Win 3.1 version still available) or with the good old PrintScreen
key, then save as PCX. If you want to go to the effort USGS has digital
mapping data up on their site, and it's a published format with readers
available, but you'll have to convert the screen image to PCX there too.
>
>As I read the  description for Street Atlas and its laptop navigation
>features, I can't help but think how much better suited a palmtop is
>for
>this task. One could even pack a palmtop when hiking, though it would
>be
>crazy to leave the topo maps and compass behind!
>
>Back to the Tripmate: CompUSA has it on sale for $119 right now,
>normally
>~$159, and that includes the $39 Street Atlas 5. Compare that with a
>Garmin 12 at $150 + SA 5 at $39 and you've saved $70, though you're
>getting a GPS receiver that's unusable without a computer.
>
That's the point, isn't it. Tripmate needs to be hooked up with a cable
to something else so you can read out what's there. A stand-alone
hand-held GPS has an integral screen, so you can see where you are going
& still use the 200 for, say, data collection. For hiking, I'd go with
the less cumbersome alternative every time (and I did). In a car, you
want a screen big enough to see. Try reading a road map through a window
the size of the HP-200 screen, in dim or no light. And don't forget the
storage requirements for a, say, 400 mile, trip stored at a usable scale
in PCX format. If you use Street Atlas, Map 'n' Go, Expedia Streets Plus,
or Expedia Trip Planner (Expedia won't run with TripMate BTW), you'll
also get dynamic routing capabilities and exit information from your
laptop. The maps are stored in vector format, so you can zoom in as far
as you want without a pixellated image for detail work, and still zoom
out to get the big picture. Just because we *can* do something with the
HP-200 doesn't mean that we *should*.

William Brown remarked that pulling all the paraphenalia of a 200 hooked
up to a TripMate would be too slow to be practical. I concur. He also
indicated that his Magellan is too slow to lock on for spot readings and
won't track well from its case. I don't know what model he has; my Eagle
Expedition II locks on quickly if you're anywhere close to the last site,
and tracks well even at my belt. The 12-channel parallel receivers are
wonderful.
His other point is that looking at the screen instead of the trail is
dangerous. That's also true in a car / plane / boat. Forget using GPS on
the 200 without someone who's very comfortable with it in a car. If
you're alone, Street Atlas 5, Map 'n' Go 4, or Co-Pilot Door-to-Door will
give you verbal warnings of the coming turns, if you let them calculate
the route to take. Co-Pilot will even recalculate if you miss a turn or
get off early to miss congestion or visit somewhere. Street Atlas & Map
'n' Go are less friendly at this.

Jon Barrett
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>
> For the programmers among you...
> What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?
> Please take into account availability of what will almost certainly be
> an older product as well as documentation (or user group support).
> I've seen several compilers scattered across DOS websites but would like
> the benefit of others' experiences.

Highly reccommend turbo C (& C++). I use Turbo C++ 1.01 1990

The exe is about 465k; the last plain C version I saw was about 300k.
Lib etc are another 211k

INclude files- 138k

ALl executables together - 568k

The whole thing takes roughly a Meg. Excluding the graphics libraries.


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I have an extra HP100LX 2MB for sale.

Condition:  Like new.  Used very little (it was a backup).  I kept it in a
padded plastic box.

Comes complete in original box with manuals (HP100LX User's Guide, HP100LX
Quick Start Guide, HP Palmtop PC Accessory Guide).

Price: $225.

Also available:
-  Itty Bitty Book Lite by Zelco Industries with battery case (4 C
batteries) - $10 plus shipping
- ACF PCL Travel Light + Clip - $10 plus shipping

Note:  I believe Thaddeus Computing (http://www.thaddeus.com/ptp.htm) is
still selling connectivity cables and AC adapters.  If not, I might be able
to locate a set.

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Erik W. Tribelhorn
    Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:13 PM


    > 1.  Mt new computer shows COM1 and COM4 and I cannot get the 200lx to
use COM4 so I  > have to unhook my mouse to communicate.

    Not surprising Erik as com4 is probably being setup by windows and may
not be available from DOS. Have you tried com2? Acelink has many commandline
switches and you can even write your most used setting into the executable
itself with the /w switch. Try connecting to one of the other ports to avoid
the mouse shuffle (although i have had to resort to this myself depending on
the machine i use).

    > 2.  Also, does anyone know how to get this to work under Windows95.
Currently, I have to  > reboot into DOS mode & unhook the mouse to transfer
files.

    FWIW, i have never got a reliable acelink connection from a dosbox under
win95. To do this (make a connection under win95 that is) your best bet is
TransFile200 on the hp site. Failing that running acelink from plain old dos
is a sure thing - i have never lost a byte or connection in several years of
use and multiple pc's (@ 115200 baud)...

    Regards,
    Ian C. Melville
    imelv@tstt.net.tt

    FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
    Trinidad, West Indies
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><SPAN =
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    <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D570315000-29041998><FONT=20
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Also, does=20
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face=3DArial=20
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best=20
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from plain=20
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several=20
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baud)...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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Does anyone know where I can buy a 96 meg flash card for around $500.
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> > 2- Use one of the many serial communications libraries available. If none
> > does, let me know, since I wrote my own several years ago, and now its
> > rock-stable and widely tested under Turbo C and Borland C++.
>
> "C Programmers Guide to Serial Communications" by Campbell.
Yep! We seem to have it in the library! Thanks, Chris.



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> >        bioscom(cmd, byte, port);
>
> That function allows to call directly the BIOS serial functions, but they
> suck.
I had a feeling that that might be the case!

> You have two options:
>
> even in the palmtop you'll have to run it from the system manager.
I'm a "Terminate All..." kinda palmtop guy.

> If none does, let me know, since I wrote my own several years ago,
> and now its rock-stable and widely tested under Turbo C and Borland C++.
That would be superb!

I have no idea of where to start looking for
such routines, anyway. If it's relevant, the baud rate is 38400

Thanks a lot!
There is so much knowledge & experience in the palmtop community...

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> A nice online resource for programming hardware can be found
> at "Tomi Engdahl's PC hardware pages":
>     http://junitec.ist.utl.pt/einfo/pc/interface.html

Bookmarked it! though incidently, I'm having trouble connecting at the
moment.


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Date:         Tue, 28 Apr 1998 21:59:12 -0700
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Folks,

someone was looking for sidekick plus with the outliner.
the outliner is listed on the back of the box.

I saw a copy in the box with all docs at
"Computer Stuff"
6643 N.E. Glisan
Portland, Or. 97213
503-236-7626
It is either $5.00 or $10.00 plus shipping, they don't take checks.
Mike,  who you need to talk to was busy but the other guy there said
everything on the shelve was $5.00 - $10.00

Patrick West <pccare@teleport.com>, using OS/2 Warp
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Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
that will run on the 200LX.

I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
other features I find painful about the built-in database too (like
how long it takes it to re-display the database when I choose a
different sort order -- if I could switch between a few precomputed
indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would be fine).

So lately I've been playing with an old copy of Wordtech's dbXL, a
dBase III superset.  It's OK, except that I find the built-in memo
field editor clunky (solvable, perhaps) and the notion of having to
press Ctrl+PgDn to start editing the memo field and Ctrl+PgUp to
complete editing cumbersome (especially on the LX keyboard).  I seem
to remember that Real Original dBase III was like this too.  Really I
would like the memo field to just be a big text block like it is on
the built-in LX database software.

Anyone out there have any good ideas for what I should be looking
for?  Or should I just go back to wrangling some C to solve my problems?

(ObC, if anyone cares: MS QuickC -- it's bigger than Borland's
compilers but I'm tolerant because I have to work with MS C compilers
at work, so I'm familiar with building multi-file projects with NMAKE
and QuickC can do that too.  Note also that the IDE also has a weird
interaction with the 200LX in that you have to press the OFF button
twice to turn off.)

-Frank McConnell

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you could try Advanced Revelation,  from Revelation Technologies,  was true
Relational DB for DOS,  but you would need big disk and CPU upgrade,
otherwiise would be pretty slow.

Alastair

Frank McConnell wrote:

> Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> that will run on the 200LX.
>
> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
> gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
> into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
> other features I find painful about the built-in database too (like
> how long it takes it to re-display the database when I choose a
> different sort order -- if I could switch between a few precomputed
> indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would be fine).
>
> So lately I've been playing with an old copy of Wordtech's dbXL, a
> dBase III superset.  It's OK, except that I find the built-in memo
> field editor clunky (solvable, perhaps) and the notion of having to
> press Ctrl+PgDn to start editing the memo field and Ctrl+PgUp to
> complete editing cumbersome (especially on the LX keyboard).  I seem
> to remember that Real Original dBase III was like this too.  Really I
> would like the memo field to just be a big text block like it is on
> the built-in LX database software.
>
> Anyone out there have any good ideas for what I should be looking
> for?  Or should I just go back to wrangling some C to solve my problems?
>
> (ObC, if anyone cares: MS QuickC -- it's bigger than Borland's
> compilers but I'm tolerant because I have to work with MS C compilers
> at work, so I'm familiar with building multi-file projects with NMAKE
> and QuickC can do that too.  Note also that the IDE also has a weird
> interaction with the 200LX in that you have to press the OFF button
> twice to turn off.)
>
> -Frank McConnell
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Hi all,

I found "Pick" for PE at SUPER. But maybe I think to complicated (or to
simple <g>, I don't understand, how it works. If I follow whats written
in the readme:

        pick: writes selected file into c:\file.lst
        pick <filename>: writes selected file into <filename>

I get a file c:\file.lst, that's okay. For example, if I want to edit
c:\autoexec.bat, I choose it with pick and get a c:\file.lst with the
content "autoexec.bat" (the name). When I then open file.lst with PE,
then I can edit the file-name "autoexec.bat", not the content. I think,
this is not, how it is meant to work, so how?

Best regards, Axel


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> I get a file c:\file.lst, that's okay. For example, if I want to edit
> c:\autoexec.bat, I choose it with pick and get a c:\file.lst with the
> content "autoexec.bat" (the name). When I then open file.lst with PE,
> then I can edit the file-name "autoexec.bat", not the content. I think,
> this is not, how it is meant to work, so how?
>
> Best regards, Axel

First of all pick should be installed as your chooser in your pe.cfg.
Look in your pe.cfg under:

ÝFile¨

; set this to the program that should be started to pick a file
Chooser=3Da:\pe\pick.exe

After it has been installed just hit Ýopen¨ and then Ýenter¨ and then =
pick the
file that you what to edit.



Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 20:17:37 +1000
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Bruce Martin wrote:

>
> BUT -- it is an old Intel-style flash card, so it requires a special driver to
> operate in an LX. I use TFFS (True Flash File System) which came with the card.
> If you are thinking of buying an Intel-style flash card, be sure you don't mind
> loading that extra stuff into your precious memory.
>
> Bruce
>
Bruce,
        I have TFFS on a 2mb Magicram card that I had used on the omnigo.  It
works fine on the HP 100lx (via TFFS which is loaded as a TSR).  However
I 've also got a linear flash card which is 4mb and wonder if this could
be used with the Hp as well?  Would it have to be re formatted with the
Tffs utilities? or can it just be read as is?

Thanks for any info.

Regards,

Andrew

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              Axel Klag <klag@DWELLE.DE>
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Thanks Quinton, that did the trick, it increases for me the value of pe for
100%!

Bye, Axel

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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998, Quinton Jones Jr wrote:

> > I get a file c:\file.lst, that's okay. For example, if I want to edit
> > c:\autoexec.bat, I choose it with pick and get a c:\file.lst with the
> > content "autoexec.bat" (the name). When I then open file.lst with PE,
> > then I can edit the file-name "autoexec.bat", not the content. I think,
> > this is not, how it is meant to work, so how?
> >
> > Best regards, Axel
>
> First of all pick should be installed as your chooser in your pe.cfg.
> Look in your pe.cfg under:
>
> ÝFile¨
>
> ; set this to the program that should be started to pick a file
> Chooser=a:\pe\pick.exe
>
> After it has been installed just hit Ýopen¨ and then Ýenter¨ and then pick the
> file that you what to edit.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Qman...
>
>
> ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your hands.
>
>

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:33:01 -0400
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              "Johnson, Richard C" <Richard.C.Johnson@TRANSQUEST.COM>
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Why not try Alpha 5. I remember reading an article about it in the
Palmtop Paper several months ago. The DOS version is still available for
aroung $50. Check the Palmtop Paper site for details.
http://www.thaddeus.com/ptp.htm


> ----------
> From:         Frank McConnellÝSMTP:fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG¨
> Sent:         Wednesday, April 29, 1998 12:46 AM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Database s/w for 200LX
>
> Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> that will run on the 200LX.
>
> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
> gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
> into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
> other features I find painful about the built-in database too (like
> how long it takes it to re-display the database when I choose a
> different sort order -- if I could switch between a few precomputed
> indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would be fine).
>
> So lately I've been playing with an old copy of Wordtech's dbXL, a
> dBase III superset.  It's OK, except that I find the built-in memo
> field editor clunky (solvable, perhaps) and the notion of having to
> press Ctrl+PgDn to start editing the memo field and Ctrl+PgUp to
> complete editing cumbersome (especially on the LX keyboard).  I seem
> to remember that Real Original dBase III was like this too.  Really I
> would like the memo field to just be a big text block like it is on
> the built-in LX database software.
>
> Anyone out there have any good ideas for what I should be looking
> for?  Or should I just go back to wrangling some C to solve my
> problems?
>
> (ObC, if anyone cares: MS QuickC -- it's bigger than Borland's
> compilers but I'm tolerant because I have to work with MS C compilers
> at work, so I'm familiar with building multi-file projects with NMAKE
> and QuickC can do that too.  Note also that the IDE also has a weird
> interaction with the 200LX in that you have to press the OFF button
> twice to turn off.)
>
> -Frank McConnell
>
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 07:39:01 -0400
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              "Johnson, Richard C" <Richard.C.Johnson@TRANSQUEST.COM>
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Is it available commercially or is it shareware? Do you recall the
price?

> ----------
> From:         Brendan MacmillanÝSMTP:bren@CS.MONASH.EDU.AU¨
> Sent:         Tuesday, April 28, 1998 11:01 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      Re: Looking for a C compiler for the HP200LX
>
> >
> > For the programmers among you...
> > What C compiler would you recommend for use on the HP200LX?
> > Please take into account availability of what will almost certainly
> be
> > an older product as well as documentation (or user group support).
> > I've seen several compilers scattered across DOS websites but would
> like
> > the benefit of others' experiences.
>
> Highly reccommend turbo C (& C++). I use Turbo C++ 1.01 1990
>
> The exe is about 465k; the last plain C version I saw was about 300k.
> Lib etc are another 211k
>
> INclude files- 138k
>
> ALl executables together - 568k
>
> The whole thing takes roughly a Meg. Excluding the graphics libraries.
>
>
> --
> Brendan Macmillan
> bren@cs.monash.edu.au
> Telephone +61 03  990 55194
> http://www.cs.monash.edu.au/~bren
>  10. "Works well when under constant supervision and cornered like a
> rat in a
>  trap."
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              david@JAMESMORRISON.COM.AU
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So I set up post LX but I've got a few questions. First, I have read the =
instructions, I even printed them out so I could refer to them easily, =
(or just waste some more paper)
1) It doesn't put mesages from this group for instances in the box with =
this heading, Even though it would appear to be set up "out of the box" =
like that? Also I would like to set up some more mail boxes, I use a =
couple of alias' at work, and would like to seperate them on download.

2) Every time I finish a session, newlx reports an error2 and doesn't =
download all the messages?

3) I can only get messages via news, when I've gone online first with =
wwwlx. If I just log on from the icon as post lx, it gets the mail, then =
says its launching news, but it doesn't get anything, it logs off first?

I can actually live with these minor things cause it doesn't really =
affect what I use it for, but I would like to tune it up.


David Green
Ph +61 2 9979 8524
Fax+61 2 9979 8534
Email info@jamesmorrison.com.au

Message created on Hewlett Packard 200LX Palmtop computer using Post/LX =
2.0 now that does compute.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:07:35 -0400
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Erik,
I have never used Ace-link but...
I faced a similar problem trying to get the built-in Laplink Remote
Access (LLRA) to work under Win95. They said it couldn't be done but I
got it to work well enough for my purposes. I use it from a Dos window
in conjunction with some simple batch files which automate repetitive
file transfers.
Here's what you do: (I'm not at my computer now so am working from
memory)=20
1. Copy the LLRA files (including tsi.ini) to your PC. (I'll assume
they're in c:\llra)
2. Edit the tsi.ini file and change the computername to something other
than what the HP200LX is called. (I use "Home PC") Ensure the Com port
is set correctly. (for now I'll ignore the com 4 issue and stick with 1
or 2)
3. Create a shortcut on your desktop. When prompted for the command =
line
simply type in "command.com". There are options for a batch file and
working directory. Set the working directory to c:\llra and create a
batch file which calls the TSRs. Take care to ensure the paths are
correct. (See below)
LLRA.BAT--------------------------------------------------
echo off
if not exist c:\llra\llra1.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist c:\llra\llra2.exe goto NOFILES
if not exist c:\llra\llra3.exe goto NOFILES

c:\llra\llra2 /# %1

if errorlevel 3 goto LLCMD
if errorlevel 2 goto UNINSTC
if errorlevel 1 goto UNINSTNC

c:\llra\llra1
c:\llra\llra2
c:\llra\llra3 %1 %2 %3
if errorlevel 1 goto END
if not exist c:\llra\llra4.exe goto end
c:\llra\llra4
goto END

:NOFILES
echo =FF
echo Cannot run LapLink Remote Access because one (or more) files are
missing.
echo =FF
goto END

:LLCMD
c:\llra\llra3 %1
goto END

:UNINSTC
c:\llra\llra4 /u
:UNINSTNC
c:\llra\llra3 /u
if errorlevel 1 goto END
c:\llra\llra2 /u
c:\llra\llra1 /u

:END
echo =FF=20
----------------------------------------------
4. This is the critical step. In the properties of your new shortcut is
a tab for runtime chacteristics such as whether to run in full screen =
or
a window. At the bottom of that tab is an "advanced" button. Select it.
Now you should see a checkbox that says, in essence, "hide windows 95
from this program". Check that box and save these settings.
5. Now doubleclick on your new shortcut and you should have access to
your basic dos prompt and should see the TSRs loaded. Connect your
HP200LX and start LLRA. Soon you should here the reassuring little
chimes indicating a connection has been established.
6. At the command line type LLRA /M to see how the drives are mapped.
Now you can MOVE, XCOPY, and COPY to your heart's content either
manually or with batch files.

I have never used Ace-link but am willing to bet if you set it up in a
similar manner paying special attention to step 4 it will work.

Let me know how it turns out.

> ----------
> From:         Erik W. TribelhornÝSMTP:tribelhorn@PLAINS.NET¨
> Sent:         Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:12 PM
> To:   HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject:      ace-link
>=20
> I have an 200lx 2mb and ace-link that I haven't used in a while.=A0 I
> have a couple problems...=20
> =A0
> 1.=A0 Mt new computer shows COM1 and COM4 and I cannot get the 200lx =
to
> use COM4 so I have to unhook my mouse to communicate.
> =A0
> 2.=A0 Also, does anyone know how to get this to work under =
Windows95.=A0
> Currently, I have to reboot into DOS mode & unhook the mouse to
> transfer files.
> =A0
> Thanks
>=20

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 08:54:32 -0400
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              Russell Hemery <rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU>
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At 03:58 PM 29/04/98 +1000, you wrote:
>you could try Advanced Revelation,  from Revelation Technologies,  was true
>Relational DB for DOS,  but you would need big disk and CPU upgrade,
>otherwiise would be pretty slow.
>
>Alastair
>
>Frank McConnell wrote:
>
>> Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
>> that will run on the 200LX.
>>
>> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
>> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't


I used and am using a prog called enable..  It is like open access ie word
processing/telecoms/spreadsheet/graphics and a killer database..  I had 70k
records back in 1982 on a 20 meg xt..  DESKTOP  now it runs smoothly on my
palmtop  :))

I will look up the manuals for you if you want all the specs.  It is able to
cut/paste between all the functions and can have multiple windows open..
Install takes around 3 meg.

Let me know if anyone wants more info..

Russell

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:52:14 +0100
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Subject:      Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
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Someone told in this mailing list that a way to keep the Appointment
tool fast is to keep in it a minimum of To-Do actions. The to-do actions
with carry-forward that are open since some time take a long time to
process.

I've created a database just for to-dos, but I would like to be able to
use Copy-Paste to move items between the database and the appointments
to-dos.

I've tried to use smart clip in the database to emulate the copy format
of an appointment to-do, and paste in appointments. I've also tried the
other way round, with a smart clip in appointment emulating the copy
format of my database.

None of these worked. If I paste into Memo I get the expected results,
but if I paste into Appointments or Database, the machine just beeps.

Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks for the help.
Paulo

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Have you looked at Wampum (Wampum42.zip on Simtel).
Its a compiled Clipper "application" and is pretty solid.

It allows precomputed, compound indexes. To add/edit a memo
field, enter a T in the memo field, and you get a "full screen" box
for the memo text.  Enter ctrl-w to save your work.

Frank McConnell wrote:

> Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> that will run on the 200LX.
>
> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
> gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
> into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
> other features I find painful about the built-in database too (like
> how long it takes it to re-display the database when I choose a
> different sort order -- if I could switch between a few precomputed
> indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would be fine).
>
> So lately I've been playing with an old copy of Wordtech's dbXL, a
> dBase III superset.  It's OK, except that I find the built-in memo
> field editor clunky (solvable, perhaps) and the notion of having to
> press Ctrl+PgDn to start editing the memo field and Ctrl+PgUp to
> complete editing cumbersome (especially on the LX keyboard).  I seem
> to remember that Real Original dBase III was like this too.  Really I
> would like the memo field to just be a big text block like it is on
> the built-in LX database software.
>
> Anyone out there have any good ideas for what I should be looking
> for?  Or should I just go back to wrangling some C to solve my problems?
>
> (ObC, if anyone cares: MS QuickC -- it's bigger than Borland's
> compilers but I'm tolerant because I have to work with MS C compilers
> at work, so I'm familiar with building multi-file projects with NMAKE
> and QuickC can do that too.  Note also that the IDE also has a weird
> interaction with the 200LX in that you have to press the OFF button
> twice to turn off.)
>
> -Frank McConnell
>
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:38:52 -0400
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              Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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Subject:      How to get ACT! for HP palmtop PCs
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There have been several requests for information on ACT! for HP palmtop PCs.

I have added links and instructions on how to download this software for free
to my 200LX links page.  Just go to the following page for more info:

http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/200lxinfo.htm

I do want to warn you that this program has an archaic interface and it not a
full version of ACT!  It works best if you use it in conjunction with a full
version of ACT! running on your desktop PC.

If anyone knows of a site that has a copy of ACT! DOS available for download,
please let me know and I'll add this link to my page.

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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From:         Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
Comments: To: Paulo Sergio Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT>
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You may be trying to paste into a db field that will not accept text.

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA

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| From: Paulo Sergio Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT>
| To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
| Subject: Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
| Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 8:52 AM
|
| Someone told in this mailing list that a way to keep the Appointment
| tool fast is to keep in it a minimum of To-Do actions. The to-do actions
| with carry-forward that are open since some time take a long time to
| process.
|
| I've created a database just for to-dos, but I would like to be able to
| use Copy-Paste to move items between the database and the appointments
| to-dos.
|
| I've tried to use smart clip in the database to emulate the copy format
| of an appointment to-do, and paste in appointments. I've also tried the
| other way round, with a smart clip in appointment emulating the copy
| format of my database.
|
| None of these worked. If I paste into Memo I get the expected results,
| but if I paste into Appointments or Database, the machine just beeps.
|
| Is there something I'm missing?

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:54:14 -0400
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is there a way to put a pause in a system macro?
thanks.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:37:00 -0600
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Is there a way to retain the QuickFill feature in Quicken when you trim
a Pocket Quicken file? Every time I trim my file, it loses some of the
payees, forcing me to type the whole name in the payee field.

I don't believe there is a way but thought I'd see if anyone knew of any
tricks.

Thanks,
Tom
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:41:43 -0500
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Help! My venerable HP100LX/1MB had developed a "hinge crack"
several weeks ago (right about the time it was last mentioned
in this group...), and this morning the entire hinge self-destructed.
Can anyone offer advice or pointers to sources of replacement parts or
reasonable service? Many thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 09:02:22 -0700
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              Quinton Jones Jr <qman@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Its me again, Recon-Q. Just found this 1MG 200LX for a $100.00.
Sounds good to me, so somebody better jump on it and quick.

Reply-To: "Brent Miller" <thetyrant@worldnet.att.net>

--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Brent Miller" <thetyrant@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: FS:  HP Palmtop PC  200lx
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 1998 12:56:23 -0700

For Sale:

HP200lx 1mg with original manual (paid $499)
        Software included;
                Lotus 123 (spreadsheet), word processor, database (I use =
it
for contact management), addressbook
                notes, and games.
        Accessories;
                Leather carrying case (paid $65) This is a specialy =
designed
zippered case with compartments for checkbook, charge cards etc..


Asking $100 plus shipping

Please reply via e-mail at     thetyrant@worldnet.att.net



--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:16:52 -0700
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Here's what I did to repair a 100LX with a *very* broken hinge.  The
back if the case was totally broken across the hinge area, and the
inside (under the screen bezel) was holding on by a small bit on the
left side.  Super glue didn't work at all, not even this special stuff
from Loctite called "Plastix".

First order of business was to loosen it up so it wouldn't crack again.
This was done by popping off the hinge cup and squirting in some tuner
cleaner/lube.  Then, I worked it back and forth (holding the hinge, not
forcing the case!  Once it moved nice I dripped a little gun oil in it
and worked it a little more.  Now the hinge was nice - a little loose
but not flopping (better loose than busted I say)

Next, I mixed up some epoxy.  I decided to use the 90 minute stuff rather
than the 5 minute.  I've just had better luck with the slower stuff.  I
spread it in both sides of the crack (not too much on the inside!) and
carefully closed the unit (by forcing the hinge closed, not forcing the
screen!).  Then, I took a big C clamp (one I use to change disc brakes)
and a little one.  The big one was lightly clamped from front to back
to close the crack.  The little one was applied on the hinge itself
from top to bottom (to flatten the hinge more and better close the
outter part of the crack.  Then it sat overnight.  Oh yes, one other
important thing.  I took a little piece of plastic (from the epoxy
package) and slid it into the hinge area (from the top).  This
was in case I put a little too much epoxy in the inner crack, I
didn't want it to bond the thing closed!

The following day, the case appeared to open and close fine.  As an
extra measure, I cut a patch to apply over the repaired crack.  I
happen to have had some case plastic from the busted pcmcia ejector
this unit also had, so I used that.  Epoxied that over the crack and
left it with the small C clamp overnight.

So far it's holding great and as long as the hinge doesn't tighten
up again it should hold.  I don't think it looks all that bad, in
fact it looks a whole lot better than the day I got it all busted
up and abused!  I've shipped it to my U.K. friend visiting the states
and he's giving it a good home.

> Help! My venerable HP100LX/1MB had developed a "hinge crack"
> several weeks ago (right about the time it was last mentioned
> in this group...), and this morning the entire hinge self-destructed.
> Can anyone offer advice or pointers to sources of replacement parts or
> reasonable service? Many thanks.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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> Kevin Calman                 O-            codex@earthling.net
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Just located another 200LX going for $200 obo.

Reply-To: "Marshall Burke" <mjburke@jps.net>


--- begin of forwarded message ---

From: "Marshall Burke" <mjburke@jps.net>
Subject: FS: HP 200lx w/ 2mb plus HP AC Adapter
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 10:16:15 -0700

I have a HP 200LX w/2MB For Sale.
Unit is in decent condition, there are light scratches on the outside of
case, the screen and keyboard have none!, The screen hinges are still =
tight
and there are no missing pieces or cracks.  I also have the real HP AC
Adapter as well.
Both for $200 obo




--- end of forwarded message ---




Regards,

Qman...


ÝHP¨ 100LX & POST/LX 2.0: The power of computing in the palm of your =
hands.

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> From: Paulo Sergio Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT>
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> Subject: Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
> Date: Thursday, 30 April 1998 00:52
>
> Someone told in this mailing list that a way to keep the Appointment
> tool fast is to keep in it a minimum of To-Do actions. The to-do actions
> with carry-forward that are open since some time take a long time to
> process.

I keep appts going back a year or more & my Appointment book is still
pretty fast because I use a macro to update (!) the ToDo's that are carry-
ing over.

{Enter}{F6}{F4}{F10}{F10}

Opens the ToDo, pops up the calendar, enters today's date as the "Start
Date" and closes the ToDo. It is not fast, but it is ok if you do it when
you
are reviewing your ToDo's (which you should do to take the most from the
concept) and if it is important to know just when the ToDo was "Originaly"
ToDo'ed (?) you can use Date (Fn + ,) in the note field or the Description
line.

HTH

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:43:41 +0200
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Hello,
thanks a lot for your swell picture of "exploded" HP 200LX

with reagrds
Ales Bourek  {:>


You wrote:
>Visit the 200LX site at
>http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:53:20 -0700
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You will want to create a smart clip that contains all of the fields
you wish to transfer, putting each on a seperate line, with the notes
field last.

Then write your macro so that it does the following:
  - smart clip the database record
  - goto appt book
  - start a new record
  - goto the notes field
  - do a paste so that the smart-clipped record get put there
  - goto the begining of the notes field (ctrl-shift-home)
  - then cut and paste each line upto the notes info into the
respective field on the appt form.

This has worked for me for over 2.5 years. Hope this helps. Let me
know if it needs further explanation.

---Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM> wrote:
>
> You may be trying to paste into a db field that will not accept text.
>
> Michael Stocker
> mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
> http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
> PO Box 256, Canal Fulton, Ohio 44614-0256, USA
>
> ----------
> | From: Paulo Sergio Custodio <Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT>
> | To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
> | Subject: Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
> | Date: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 8:52 AM
> |
> | Someone told in this mailing list that a way to keep the Appointment
> | tool fast is to keep in it a minimum of To-Do actions. The to-do
actions
> | with carry-forward that are open since some time take a long time to
> | process.
> |
> | I've created a database just for to-dos, but I would like to be
able to
> | use Copy-Paste to move items between the database and the
appointments
> | to-dos.
> |
> | I've tried to use smart clip in the database to emulate the copy
format
> | of an appointment to-do, and paste in appointments. I've also
tried the
> | other way round, with a smart clip in appointment emulating the copy
> | format of my database.
> |
> | None of these worked. If I paste into Memo I get the expected
results,
> | but if I paste into Appointments or Database, the machine just
beeps.
> |
> | Is there something I'm missing?
>
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Hello to all on this exceptional group !

I am wondering if anyone has used the DOS  INTERLNK and INTERSVR
commands to link a 200LX with a PC, as this is the connection I use mostly
when linking two PC's. I would much like to use the NC "synchronize
directories"
which I find much more comfortable than doing things manually in the Filer.
Maybe
I just have not got inside the works of the filer enough to get thing
running without
to much manual work. I am now using a 6MB 200LX with the connectivity pack
and
do my file transfers between the 200LX and notebook through the FILER either
wire or IR.

I am using the 200LX a lot in everyday medical practice, so will be glad to
exchange
suggestions on using the palmtop in this area.


Bye Ales Bourek  {:>

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 13:54:18 -0700
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I'm not sure what the exact timing is of the following, but I have
used #100# in my macros to emulate an elapsed pause. I'm not sure if
this was documented in the manual or not.

Hope this helps.

---allen solof <allensolof@BOONE.NET> wrote:
>
> is there a way to put a pause in a system macro?
> thanks.
>

Ýsnip¨

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:20:13 -0400
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Brendan;
        Do you know how or where to get an old Turbo C++ v1.01?  Borland has
long since abandoned these versions and say they can't supply, even though
their policy is: "if you have a later version, you can copy and use an older
version for free."  This is the so called "No Nonsense" licence agreement.
However, it's all Nonsense if one can't get it from them, or anywhere else!!

                        regards...
                                   Tony

<snipped>...

Highly reccommend turbo C (& C++). I use Turbo C++ 1.01 1990

The exe is about 465k; the last plain C version I saw was about 300k.
Lib etc are another 211k

INclude files- 138k

ALl executables together - 568k

The whole thing takes roughly a Meg. Excluding the graphics libraries.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 14:52:49 -0700
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> I found "Pick" for PE at SUPER. But maybe I think to complicated (or to
> simple <g>, I don't understand, how it works. If I follow whats written

Too simple! <G>...

Put it into the same subdirectory where PE is. In PE.CFG add
the line:

Chooser=3Dc:\utils\pick.exe

Of course, this reflects my subdirectory (c:\utils) adjust it
for your own... After the change, restart PE.

Now: In PE when you open a file there is a one line window
asking you for the file name. Instead of typing the file name,
simply press enter. You should get a screen similar to the
Memo screen when you open a file in Memo.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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David:

I don't mind answering support questions here, but
support@dasoft.com is a better venue. It does not bore
everyone, and we attend to that mailbox very frequently, but
is is no problem, your choice. .

> So I set up post LX but I've got a few questions. First, I have read =
the
> instructions, I even printed them out so I could refer to them easily,
> (or just waste some more paper)

The previous version gave you NO choice but sent you a paper
manual, at least here it was your choice :)

> 1) It doesn't put mesages from this group for instances in the box with
> this heading, Even though it would appear to be set up "out of the box"
> like that? Also I would like to set up some more mail boxes, I use a
> couple of alias' at work, and would like to seperate them on download.

Did you run Setup, there is a section there for filters!

> 2) Every time I finish a session, newlx reports an error2 and doesn't
> download all the messages?

This message was specifically left in the initial version of
News/LX, because it was pre-release, so we left it as a
reminder for us and for customers that it is a pre-release
version. In the meantime, the real released version is out. In
fact, we also released a new version of HV, as well as Post/LX
with a few corrections. All this is available on our Web page.
Follow the links to WWW/LX Plus then to download, and grab the
full thing (WWWLX.ZIP). You will not lose WWW.CFG and
POST.CFG, but there is a new thing n HV.CFG (also see FAQ #29)
for info.

> 3) I can only get messages via news, when I've gone online first with
> wwwlx. If I just log on from the icon as post lx, it gets the mail, =
then
> says its launching news, but it doesn't get anything, it logs off =
first?

Right! Post/LX needs WWW.EXE to do all the communications for
it. So the proper way to start Post/LX is

www -d "!post"

This is described in the manual, BTW - maybe it was wasted
paper. We changed from the prior way of doing it. Post/LX
REQUIRES now that www.exe is loaded or it cannot go online.

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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              William" <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK>

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> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:03:01 +0100 From: "Brown, William"
> <wdlb5359@GLAXOWELLCOME.CO.UK> Subject: Re: Outlook 98
>
> I used Intellilink with SCH+ for quite a while, but never got the ToDo to=
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> s/w just crashed. Do I read correctly that you used Intellisync and it wa=
s fine ?

I use it everyday under NT 4 since a few months ago and it works just fine =
for Apppointments,
TodDo's and phones !

Bye

Shafik Mahomad
-----------------> Deliriously happy with OS/2 !
Lisbon, Portugal

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 19:20:22 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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To all those who've asked about CIC200, I renamed the file.  It can be had
at:
http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp/cic200.bak
in standard zip format, just renamed to .bak.

Be warned, though, it may not work with all modems.  At this point, it's
only useful if you have one it does work with, or if you use an ethernet
card in the palmtop, it is useful because you can run it, then immediately
unload it, to reset the CardBIOS and enable flash card (or modem, if
cic100 is loaded or if CIC200 works with your modem) access again.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:15:35 -0700
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I have at times needed to emulate a Serial Dumb Terminal to gain access
into a crashed unix computer at work using the unix computer's console
connection to get into the computer when the operating system is
corrupted and the machine won't fully boot.  I tried using the Data Comm
utility included with the 200LX but could not get them talking to each
other.  Is there a way to use the HP as a serial terminal?  Can I use
the installed software or do I need another program?

Dan Carrington

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:52:57 GMT
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On Wed, 29 Apr 1998 17:15:35 -0700, you wrote:

>I have at times needed to emulate a Serial Dumb Terminal to gain access
>into a crashed unix computer at work using the unix computer's console
>connection to get into the computer when the operating system is
>corrupted and the machine won't fully boot.  I tried using the Data Comm
>utility included with the 200LX but could not get them talking to each
>other.  Is there a way to use the HP as a serial terminal?  Can I use
>the installed software or do I need another program?
>
>Dan Carrington

Must be a cable or setting problem.
I use the HP200 all the time as a dumb terminal.
Make user you use the correct adaptor to talk to the unix unit
set the software for a VT 100 system with the correct speed and=20
bit count.
Best of luck


Dean L. W5GXL

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:33:54 +1000
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Dear AVI,

I often think that some questions are better explored here, only cause they
may provide answers for others who were maybe wondering about the same
thing.

You guys provide an amazing service via your support@dasoft.com (I have
experienced it first hand) and I will always be the first one to stand up
and support your software, it really is fantastic, I take GREAT delight in
showing my HP loaded with WWWLX, POSTLX, ABC, to my windows minded friends
here in Australia.

I certainly wasn't having a dig at anybody other than myself when I said I
printed out the manual, I read it, it is well written, I'm just not at all
familiar with computers, in fact the 200LX was my first contact with
computers two years ago and it is only through help from forums like this,
that I am able to use it to the degree that I do.

I guess what I wanted to know was, (and it may sound really dum to people
with your experience) how you actually direct certain messages in certain
directions using "filters". Although I had an inkling of an idea that that
was what "filters" were used for, I couldn't get out of my mind that
"filters" were only used for filtering junk mail and somehow deleting it?

As to the rest I will download the newer version.

regards,
David


David:

I don't mind answering support questions here, but
support@dasoft.com is a better venue. It does not bore
everyone, and we attend to that mailbox very frequently, but
is is no problem, your choice. .

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:20:36 -0400
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              Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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> So I set up post LX but I've got a few questions. First, I <snip>

> 1) It doesn't put mesages from this group for instances in the box with
> this heading, Even though it would appear to be set up "out of the box"

These are actually just named "folders" for putting messages in that you =
want to keep. You would use 'move' to put them there.

> Also I would like to set up some more mail boxes, I use a
> couple of alias' at work, and would like to seperate them on download.

Not sure about that one, havn't tried.
>
> 2) Every time I finish a session, newlx reports an error2 and doesn't
> download all the messages?
>
Does this for me too, but I think that all the messages are coming in - =
when I run news2 from DOS,that is - see next comment...

> 3) I can only get messages via news, when I've gone online first with
> wwwlx. If I just log on from the icon as post lx, it gets the mail, =
then
> says its launching news, but it doesn't get anything, it logs off =
first?
>

This is because of there not being enough free memory. Avi from D&A gave =
me a couple suggestions and basically you've got to free up all of it to =
run under sysmgr. I'm messing with MaxDos to see if I can squeeze it in. =
Runs fine from straight DOS, though.

Darren.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:55:38 -0400
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Several current C++ books come with Turbo C++ Lite which is a varient of
Turbo C++ 1.0.  One on my shelf is "Rescued By C++" by Jamsa, 3rd Ed.
There are others.  Check at Amazon or your local Barnes & Noble,
CompUSA, etc.

I don't recommend Turbo C++ Lite to students because it is woefully out
of date compared to Turbo C++ 4.5, not to speak of the new ANSI
standard.  I haven't tried Turbo C++ Lite on my hp100lx however.

Any programming I've done for the 100lx has been done on Borland C++ 4.5
on my PC and downloaded to the hp100.  Recent Windows 95 C++ compilers
from Borland and Microsoft don't support DOS.

It makes my head hurt to think about squinting at the hp100 screen and
waiting for compiles when I could be using my Pentium 90 and 17" color
screen, but to each his own.

Jim
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 21:05:07 -0700
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I updated my "Downloads" page to have a link to
CIC200.  Be warned, though, that it won't work
with all modems yet...
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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 23:22:17 +0000
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From:         Mike Melancon <melancon@PRYSM.NET>
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<snipped>
>Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
> that will run on the 200LX.
>
> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
> gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
> into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
> other features I find painful about the built-in database too (like
> how long it takes it to re-display the database when I choose a
> different sort order -- if I could switch between a few precomputed
> indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would be fine).
<snipped>

Have a look at DataPerfect - developed by WordPerfect and now
available free from the following site:
http://www.sanbachs.com/compusofl/index.html

It is fast - handles large databases with no degradation in
performance - and is perfectly happy running on XT class machines

You can lookup a record from any field - hit the up arrow and a
lookup window pops up.  You can browse up and down with the arrow
keys or begin typing and as each letter is entered the index goes to
the first record matching your entry.


Mike Melancon
melancon@prysm.net

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:58:29 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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The trouble with Turbo C++ Lite, which comes with some C++ books, is that
you can't compile with it, you can only run interpreted programs.  Kind of
like the limited QBASIC that Microsoft bundled with DOS 5... no
compilation, just interpreting.

But there are plenty of abandonware sites that have Turbo C++ 1.0, and if
you want a license from Borland, you can just buy a copy of the latest
Turbo C++ 3.0 (for DOS) or 4.5 (for Windows, I think) and, if you don't
use the newer software, your license covers version 1.0 instead.
Borland is a great company to deal with for older software issues like
this.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:25:19 +1000
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From:         Alain Psyche <wyn@ALPHALINK.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: Scan codes of Palmtop Keys
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did you try  shift menu 5
page 25-15 the manual give you the translation betwen a LX and a PC
regards
Alain
> Turbo C 2.0 has a TSR (terminate-and-stay-resident) help utility that is
> launched in the Desktop by pressing Num-5. On the 200LX this does not
> work.
>
> thelp has an option to configure the scan code that is used as hot-key.
>
> How do I get a table of scan codes for the 200LX keyboard?
>
> Paulo
>
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It is certain that people who are surprising us with following kind of
messages are not aware of what they really send us. One third text and two
thirds same text dressed up with unnecessary garbage. To receive this on the
HP is a pain.  It takes up unnecessary bandwidth and disk space.  Please be
so kind to disable this feature.


On 1998-04-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU said:
   >>>> Posting number 11604, dated 29 Apr 1998 14:11:00
   >Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:14:11 -0400
   >Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
   >Sender:       HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
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   >charsetso-8859-1"
   >-----Original Message-----
   >Erik W. Tribelhorn
   >Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:13 PM
   >> 1.  Mt new computer shows COM1 and COM4 and I cannot get the
   >200lx to use COM4 so I  > have to unhook my mouse to communicate.
   >Not surprising Erik as com4 is probably being setup by windows and
   >may not be available from DOS. Have you tried com2? Acelink has
   >many commandline switches and you can even write your most used
   >setting into the executable itself with the /w switch. Try
   >connecting to one of the other ports to avoid the mouse shuffle
   >(although i have had to resort to this myself depending on the
   >>machine i use).  2.  Also, does anyone know how to get this to
   >work under Windows95. Currently, I have to  > reboot into DOS mode
   >& unhook the mouse to transfer files.
   >FWIW, i have never got a reliable acelink connection from a dosbox
   >under win95. To do this (make a connection under win95 that is)
   >your best bet is TransFile200 on the hp site. Failing that running
   >acelink from plain old dos is a sure thing - i have never lost a
   >byte or connection in several years of use and multiple pc's (@
   >115200 baud)... Regards,
   >Ian C. Melville
   >imelv@tstt.net.tt
   >FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
   >Trinidad, West Indies
   >http://www.opus.co.tt/fma   frontline@opus.co.tt
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   ><HEAD>
   ><META content xt/html;charseto-8859-1
   >http-equiv ntent-Type>
   ><META contentMSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name NERATOR>
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   ><DIV classtlookMessageHeader><FONT faceimes New Roman"
   >List
   >Tribelhorn<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 28, 1998 4:13
   >PM<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
   ><DIV><FONT color00000 size <SPAN
   >classW0315000-29041998><FONT
   >color000ff faceial size &gt; </FONT></SPAN>1.&nbsp; Mt
   >new computer
   >shows COM1 and COM4 and I cannot get the 200lx to use COM4 so I<SPAN
   >classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff faceial
   >size &nbsp;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT
   >color000ff faceial size  &gt; </FONT></SPAN>have to
   >unhook my mouse
   >to communicate.</FONT></DIV>
   ><DIV><FONT color00000 size </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   ><DIV><SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff
   >faceial
   >size Not surprising Erik as com4 is probably being setup by
   >windows and
   >may not be available from DOS. Have you tried com2? Acelink has many
   >commandline switches and you can even write your most used setting
   >into the
   >executable itself with the /w switch. Try connecting to one of the
   >other
   >ports to avoid the mouse shuffle (although i have had to resort to
   >this
   >myself depending on the machine i use).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
   ><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
   ><DIV><FONT color00000 size <SPAN
   >classW0315000-29041998><FONT
   >color000ff faceial size &gt; </FONT></SPAN>2.&nbsp;
   >Also, does
   >anyone know how to get this to work under Windows95.&nbsp;
   >Currently, I have
   >to&nbsp;<SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff
   >faceial
   >size  &gt; </FONT></SPAN>reboot into DOS mode &amp; unhook the
   >mouse to
   >transfer files.</FONT></DIV>
   ><DIV><FONT color00000 size </FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
   ><DIV><SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff
   >faceial
   >size FWIW, i have never got a reliable acelink connection from a
   >dosbox
   >under win95. To do this (make a connection under win95 that is) your
   >best
   >bet is TransFile200 on the hp site. Failing that running acelink
   >from plain
   >old dos is a sure thing - i have never lost a byte or connection in
   >several
   >years of use and multiple pc's (@ 115200
   >baud)...</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
   ><DIV><SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff
   >faceial
   >size </FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
   ><DIV><SPAN classW0315000-29041998><FONT color000ff
   >faceial
   >size Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
   ><DIV>
   ><P><FONT size Ian C.
   >Melville<BR>imelv@tstt.net.tt<BR><BR>FRONTLINE
   >MARKETING AGENCIES<BR>Trinidad, West Indies<BR><A
   >hrefttp://www.opus.co.tt/fma"
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MIME-version: 1.0
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Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
>
> It is certain that people who are surprising us with following kind of
> messages are not aware of what they really send us.

I understand where you are coming from but why send me (all of us)
hundreds (over 1000?) lines of the very same text when a paragraph this
long would seem to me to be enough. Just a rhetorical question/rant. No
reply needed; to quote you "why waste the bandwidth."

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 05:02:30 -0800
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              "Edward A. Padin" <epadin@WAGWEB.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Database s/w for 200LX

On 1998-04-29 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu said to epadin@wagweb.com
   >you could try Advanced Revelation,  from Revelation Technologies,
   >was true Relational DB for DOS,  but you would need big disk and
   >CPU upgrade, otherwiise would be pretty slow.
   >Alastair
   >Frank McConnell wrote:
   >> Well, no, really I'm interested in old MS-DOS database software
   >> that will run on the 200LX.
   >> I've got a need for a largish data set, maybe 10K records (and
   >> growing) with many/most having note fields.  Obviously that isn't
   >> gonna happen with the built-in database unless I split my data set
   >> into multiple files.  I'd rather not, and there are a couple of
   >> other features I find painful about the built-in database too
   >>(like  how long it takes it to re-display the database when I
   >>choose a  different sort order -- if I could switch between a few
   >>precomputed  indexes like dBase for browsing/searching that would
   >be fine). >
   >> So lately I've been playing with an old copy of Wordtech's dbXL, a
   >> dBase III superset.  It's OK, except that I find the built-in memo
   >> field editor clunky (solvable, perhaps) and the notion of having
   >>to  press Ctrl+PgDn to start editing the memo field and Ctrl+PgUp
   >>to  complete editing cumbersome (especially on the LX keyboard).
   >>I seem  to remember that Real Original dBase III was like this too.
   >>Really I  would like the memo field to just be a big text block
   >>like it is on  the built-in LX database software.
   >> Anyone out there have any good ideas for what I should be looking
   >> for?  Or should I just go back to wrangling some C to solve my
   >problems? >

I use Foxpro 2.0 and find it very powerful. It loads kind of slow but
is fast once in memory. It would probably kick a$$ on 32MB unit. The
text editor for memo fields is pretty good. It does word wrap and
cut-n-paste. It uses ctrl-keys for most functions. The one thing
missing(I think) is a text search feature within the memo editor. You
can search memos themselves using the programming language.


           Ed Padin, Systems Integration Consultant, NYC/USA
          "Watson, can you hear me ?" - Alexander Graham Bell

A hammer sometimes misses its mark -- a bouquet never.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:15:28 +0100
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              Russell Albert <webmaster@EXCELSYS.CO.UK>
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Subject:      Help! MZ-1 Deaf-Mute
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My MZ-1 has lost the ability to either hear input into the line-in/mic and
out via the Headphone/Line Out.
It does play disks ok as the level meter on the display bounces up & down as
per normal.
My only guess is that the Digital-Analog converter has given up, has anyone
else seen this problem.

Help!

Thanks, Russell.



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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:15:48 +1900
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>, constant@INDO.NET.ID
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From:         Constant Brouerius van Nidek <constant@INDO.NET.ID>
Subject:      Re: File: "multi-part message in MIME format
Comments: To: bueker@SONOMA.EDU

On 1998-04-30 bueker@SONOMA.EDU said:
   >References: <199804300641.NAA31935@smtp-intern.indo.net.id>
   >Constant Brouerius van Nidek wrote:
   >> It is certain that people who are surprising us with following
   >>kind of  messages are not aware of what they really send us.
   >I understand where you are coming from but why send me (all of us)
   >hundreds (over 1000?) lines of the very same text when a paragraph
   >this long would seem to me to be enough. Just a rhetorical
   >question/rant. No reply needed; to quote you "why waste the
   >bandwidth."
Sorry, but I am sure that the original text with mime which I quoted in full
was "only" 120 lines long. I normally do not quote in full but would just
like to let people see how it looks like for me and a lot of others. If you
have received over 1000 lines of the very same text !!!, than something went
terible wrong at my ISP and or Nettamer. It was certainly not ment as a
punishment for everybody.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 02:15:26 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Post LX
Comments: To: Darren Frick <dfrick@SNIP.NET>
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> > Also I would like to set up some more mail boxes, I use a
> > couple of alias' at work, and would like to seperate them on download.
>
> Not sure about that one, havn't tried.

Run SETUP -m

> > 2) Every time I finish a session, newlx reports an error2 and doesn't
> > download all the messages?
> >
> Does this for me too, but I think that all the messages are coming in -
> when I run news2 from DOS,that is - see next comment...

Both of you have the pre-release version of NEW/LX. Update by
d/l POST2.EXE archive.

For max DOS memory, use MAXDOS - see SUPER page.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:24:31 +0100
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              Russell Albert <webmaster@EXCELSYS.CO.UK>
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Sorry Wrong Mailing list, but if any HP people know the answer please help!
An MZ-1 is a Minidisc Recorder by the way.



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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 06:51:52 -0400
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              Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Looking for a C compiler for the HP200LX
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Thanks for the correction on TurboC++ Lite.  It won't be useful for
creating standalone programs.  However, it *is* a compiler and does
create .OBJ and .EXE files, which mislead me.  When you try to execute
the EXE file, then it says, "Has to be run under the IDE ÝIntegrated
Development Environment¨".  Bummer.

Sorry for the confusion.
--
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:14:36 -0400
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              Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
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From:         Ian Melville <imelv@TSTT.NET.TT>
Subject:      Re: File: "multi-part message in MIME format
Comments: To: constant@INDO.NET.ID
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of
> Constant Brouerius van Nidek
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 1998 2:42 PM
>
> It is certain that people who are surprising us with following kind of
> messages are not aware of what they really send us. One third text and two
> thirds same text dressed up with unnecessary garbage. To receive
> this on the HP is a pain.

Your comments are true and noted: i do apologise for any inconvenience and
assure you that i am acutely aware of the storage and download challenges
that can be posed by the lx. I think this problem arose from replying to a
msg that was not a plain text msg in the first place but i shall be more
cautious in the future.

HTML mail is becoming more common place and perhaps i can convince D&A to
include this capability in a future release of PostLX since it can do just
about everything else... :-)

Regards,

Ian C. Melville
imelv@tstt.net.tt

FRONTLINE MARKETING AGENCIES
Trinidad, West Indies
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:07:45 -0500
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              "Charles E. Sutherland" <sutherla@SWBELL.NET>
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Subject:      Re: Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment
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Buddy allows copying between built in programs.  Buddy can be downloaded =
from SUPER.  While the macro automatically copies the maked item to the =
appropriate built in program, you will still have some minor =
"housekeeping" in the program to which you make the copy.
Hope this helps.  If there is another way, I'd love to know about it.
Chuck Sutherland

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From:   Paulo Sergio CustodioÝSMTP:Paulo.Custodio@SSD.ALCATEL.PT¨
Sent:   Wednesday, April 29, 1998 7:52 AM
To:     HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:        Copy - Paste between Database and Appointment

Someone told in this mailing list that a way to keep the Appointment
tool fast is to keep in it a minimum of To-Do actions. The to-do actions
with carry-forward that are open since some time take a long time to
process.

I've created a database just for to-dos, but I would like to be able to
use Copy-Paste to move items between the database and the appointments
to-dos.

I've tried to use smart clip in the database to emulate the copy format
of an appointment to-do, and paste in appointments. I've also tried the
other way round, with a smart clip in appointment emulating the copy
format of my database.

None of these worked. If I paste into Memo I get the expected results,
but if I paste into Appointments or Database, the machine just beeps.

Is there something I'm missing?

Thanks for the help.
Paulo

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 07:58:41 -0600
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              John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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From:         John Evans - N0HJ <jaevans@CODENET.NET>
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Subject:      JAM versus Stacker
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Greetings,

  I installed JAM to evaluate on my 200lx and downloaded a 75 meg
database to a 64meg flashcard.  This DB is strictly text fields with
little in terms of spaces, but I only got 1.2 : 1 compression out of
this.  The virtual drive shows 150meg of space total, but my DB only
got squeezed down to about 58meg.  I anticipate the DB growing soon
beyond my flashcard capabilities at this rate.

  I installed JAM with default options, which should have yielded
max compression.

  I have Stacker from my old PC days and am wondering if I can see
more compression by using it versus JAM.  Anyone have experience
comparing the two??

tnx,
john
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:24:39 -0400
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              Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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From:         Peniel Romanelli <peniel@WEB2000.NET>
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Hi group-

Seriously, this is probably really the result of a virus.  8-(    Last
nite I was getting my email (with Post/LX 2).  Got as far as POP3
authentication, and froze.  On the top line a message appeared  reading
"Magic number is 0000a4c5".  Had to do a 3-finger salute to get out.
Anybody else seen something like this??

Guess I need to get F-Prot or some other virus checker.  (Or maybe an
exorcist!)

-PR
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:20:36 -0700
Reply-To:     David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
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From:         David Sargeant <istate@COYOTE.ACCESSNV.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for a C compiler for the HP200LX
Comments: To: Jim Krist <jtkrist@CLARK.NET>
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Jim Krist wrote:

> Thanks for the correction on TurboC++ Lite.  It won't be useful for
> creating standalone programs.  However, it *is* a compiler and does
> create .OBJ and .EXE files, which mislead me.  When you try to execute
> the EXE file, then it says, "Has to be run under the IDE ÝIntegrated
> Development Environment¨".  Bummer.
>
> Sorry for the confusion.

Oh yes, that's right.  It's been quite a few months since I purchased the
book that had Turbo C++ Lite in it, so I couldn't quite remember.

But, for anybody who wants the full version of Turbo C++ 1.0, assuming you
already have a license (see my previous post on the subject), it's
available at:

http://comports.com/hplx

on the "Some Files" page.  Or at least a link to it is.

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 18:41:18 -0400
Reply-To:     malkajef@orthohelp.com
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From:         Jeff Malka <malkajef@ORTHOHELP.COM>
Subject:      upgradeable 200 LX?

How can one tell which 200 LX units can have their RAM upgraded and which
one cannot?

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 11:00:47 -0700
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              "Longden C. Loo" <lloo@WORLD.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Looking for a C compiler for the HP200LX
Comments: To: David Sargeant <davidsa@accessnv.com>
In-Reply-To:  <Pine.BSI.3.95.980430111901.16320A-100000@coyote.accessnv.com>
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, David Sargeant wrote:

> Oh yes, that's right.  It's been quite a few months since I purchased the
> book that had Turbo C++ Lite in it, so I couldn't quite remember.
>
> But, for anybody who wants the full version of Turbo C++ 1.0, assuming you
> already have a license (see my previous post on the subject), it's
> available at:
>
> http://comports.com/hplx

BTW, one of those sites only had the French version, with Help files and
sample programs all in French. However, I was able to copy my TCLITE help
files and override the French version with an English copy.

- Longden

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:11:36 -0400
Reply-To:     HPLX Mailing List <HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>,
              Michael Stocker <mdstockr@NEO.LRUN.COM>
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Subject:      Data Acquisition Using 200LX?
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I was wondering if any listees have had any experience with using 200LX's for
multichannel data acquisition?  And/or know of any vendors with products that
allow 200LXs to do data acquisition through the PCMCIA slot.

Also, I am looking to dump the acquired data into Lotus 123 for analysis and
report generation.

Thanks.

Michael Stocker
mdstockr@neo.lrun.com
http://home.neo.lrun.com/pim/home.htm
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 12:28:12 -0700
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              Clark Mason <cmason@F15UNIX.AL.INTEL.COM>
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From:         Clark Mason <cmason@F15UNIX.AL.INTEL.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Serial Dumb Terminal Emulation
Comments: To: Dan Carrington <dc_grafx@MICROWORKS.NET>
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Dan Carrington wrote:
>
> I have at times needed to emulate a Serial Dumb Terminal to gain access
> into a crashed unix computer at work using the unix computer's console
> connection to get into the computer when the operating system is
> corrupted and the machine won't fully boot.  I tried using the Data Comm
> utility included with the 200LX but could not get them talking to each
> other.  Is there a way to use the HP as a serial terminal?  Can I use
> the installed software or do I need another program?
>
> Dan Carrington

Dan,

I use Kermit v2.29 with the LX to access my UNIX systems via modem, but
I'm sure it will work with direct connects as well.  It has a very good
VT terminal emulator which works well.  Kermit is also very small.  It's
available from the web in many places, but I couldn't tell you where at
the moment.  I'll mail it to you direct if you'ld like.  So to answer
your quesetion, yes it can be used as a serial terminal, and yes,
DataComm should work for you as a mimimum term emulator.

However, if you're having trouble with connecting at all, then I'd
suspect an incorrect line speed setting, wrong com port setting, bad
cable or the wrong adapter (null modem vs straight through).

-clark

Clark Mason
UNIX Sys Admin
Intel Corp
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:33:21 -0500
Reply-To:     Wally@pop.uky.edu
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From:         Walter R Francis <Wally@POP.UKY.EDU>
Organization: The hand that uses the Amiga is the hand that rules the world.
Subject:      Xicom PS-CE2-10 model Ethernet card.
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Will a Xircom card of stated model work in the HP200LX?  There is a site that
is selling them from user upgrades for $60, and they're stated to be in good
condition.

Please let me know either way, I'd like to be able to plug into our new
library (http://www.uky.edu/Libraries/wty.html) which has an ungodly amount of
Ethernet ports at every study area, desk, toilet, water fountain, etc.. :)

Thanks!!

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Subject:      Re: Xicom PS-CE2-10 model Ethernet card.
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At 15:33 30/04/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Will a Xircom card of stated model work in the HP200LX?  There is a site that
>is selling them from user upgrades for $60, and they're stated to be in good
>condition.

I've got the same card. According to the specs it draws less than 150mA, so
it's suitlable for use in the 200LX.

But as you may know already, it's needed a point enabler in order to make
it "visible" to the dos drivers that come with the card.

There are actualy point enables for a *few* cards, but not for ours (at
least I couldn't find it).

Despite that, I got the linux PCMCIA package and examined the sources of
the initialization code for the Xircom card, in order to write a point
enabler, but still haven't finished due to lack of time.

Regards. Nacho.

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 15:52:26 -0600
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              Chris Lott <rclott@RO.COM>
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Subject:      Re: Xicom PS-CE2-10 model Ethernet card.
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> But as you may know already, it's needed a point enabler in order to make
> it "visible" to the dos drivers that come with the card.

Okay, I'll ask the "dumb" question. I thought I was reasonably
conversant and knowledgable about network communications, including
ethernet.  But this one has me stumped.  What in the heck is a
"point enabler"???  Please educate me.

-Chris Lott


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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 16:27:27 -0700
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Subject:      Re: Xicom PS-CE2-10 model Ethernet card.
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On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Chris Lott wrote:

> Okay, I'll ask the "dumb" question. I thought I was reasonably
> conversant and knowledgable about network communications, including
> ethernet.  But this one has me stumped.  What in the heck is a
> "point enabler"???  Please educate me.

It's the special driver necessary to configure the card and the 200LX so
they can communicate.  CIC100 (and, for some modems, CIC200) is
essentially a point enabler for the modems.  Ethernet cards like the
Silicom and Accton cards, which work in the 200LX, do so because they have
special point-enablers written to allow them to talk to the 200LX.

The Accton's enabler is called OP2216.EXE.  The Silicom card's enabler is
called SEHP.  They are not TSR's, because they leave no resident code, but
merely configure I/O ports and what not.  Generally, if you load SEHP or
OP2216 to use an ethernet card, you must reboot to use the socket for a
flash card or for a modem.  (But if you get CIC200, you can use it as a
special "cardbios reset" utility to re-enable support for other cards).

Hope this little "refresher" helps.  :)

 --
Visit the 200LX site at http://coyote.accessnv.com/davidsa/hp

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Date:         Wed, 29 Apr 1998 22:03:58 -0700
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              David C Smalley <dsmalley@JUNO.COM>
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Subject:      Simple tech ATA flash & Omnibook 425

After reading the responses to my previous post concerning getting the 2
pieces of hardware mentioned in the subject to work together, I tried the
card in ALL the card slots except the one holding the ROM card (D:). None
of them worked, even after rebooting (from the ROM only). A funny thing
happened though when I had it installed instead of the C:. After
rebooting, it recognized that the card installed was not setup yet &
asked if I wanted to format it (I said no). It proceeded to copy all the
directories & files to the card that it normally would. I stopped it
midway (being a sceptical person, & having not backed up my card (that's
sceptical and dumb)).  I popped the card into my 100lx & there were the
files that it had managed to copy before I aborted the procedure, as
clear as day. But the silly Omnibook would still not read the card in any
of the slots. Seemingly, it can recognize that a card is there & write to
the card, but it can't read it.

I don't suppose it would make a difference if I allowed it to format the
card; do you think?

David Smalley (dsmalley@juno.com)

BTW, is that person who was looking for the mouse driver for their 530
still looking? I only have the driver for my wife's 425 in ROM. It may be
too old, but I will gladly send it to you if you remind me of your email
address.

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Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com
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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 08:09:35 -0700
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From:         Chin Jien Hung <jhchin@PACIFIC.NET.SG>
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Hi Lists,

Can someone please advise how to partition a 64mb ATA flash card into a
10mb and 54mb drives ?

I tried fdisk100 on it, but after running the card was not readable on
my 200LX, and I have to reformat it.

Thanks in advance.

Jien Hung

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 08:20:21 -0700
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Hi,

Just found a shareware named "tides309.zip" that works on 200LX nicely.
For anyone interested in knowing the TIDES time, either for boating,
fishing etc. You may find it at :

ftp.seds.lpl.arizona.edu /pub/software/pc/earth/tides309.zip


If someone have a better version, please kindly inform me.

Cheers

Jien Hung

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:34:46 -0700
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Hey Avi: I say to myself... :)

I posted this
> > > Also I would like to set up some more mail boxes, I use a
> > > couple of alias' at work, and would like to seperate them on =
download.
> >
> > Not sure about that one, havn't tried.
>
> Run SETUP -m

And Andreas, who reads this list but only in "lurk-mode",
shakes my cage and says:

In the main screen of Post/LX press ADD (F6), then select the
button that says Mailbox!

So there, an additional way to do the same, without getting
out of Post/LX.

Thank you Andreas!

  Avi M. ÝD&A¨

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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 17:40:43 -0700
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If you have any money to spend on a tide program, see
    www.tides.com/prodinfo.htm
and look at tides and currents for DOS.  It even has a pix of the
program running on a HP palmtop.  I have not tried it yet, but it looks
better than the Tide program that I have at the moment.  I plan to buy a
copy when I get the spare money.

Dan Carrington


Chin Jien Hung wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just found a shareware named "tides309.zip" that works on 200LX
> nicely.
> For anyone interested in knowing the TIDES time, either for boating,
> fishing etc. You may find it at :
>
> ftp.seds.lpl.arizona.edu /pub/software/pc/earth/tides309.zip
>
> If someone have a better version, please kindly inform me.
>
> Cheers
>
> Jien Hung
>
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Date:         Thu, 30 Apr 1998 21:38:19 -0400
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              "Mitchell B. Hamm" <mitch@PALMTOP.NET>
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I have to step in here since I have had good luck with this...

Yes, a serial terminal on a UNIX box is simple:

1) Start a getty on the UNIX machine's serial line. Something like:

C6:2345:respawn:/sbin/agetty -i -T vt100 ttyC6 38400

and rerun init:

/sbin/init q

2) Hook to the UNIX machine with your 200LX and a correct cable configuration.
I use the HP 1015 serial cable and the black 5181-6641 adapter, BUT I am using
it on a Cyclades card so it might be different going to a regular serial port.
3) Open Datacomm, set the comm parameters to match the getty and hit Enter.
4) My system then sends login: and I'm golden.

You can even get away from programs like Kermit to send files as Datacomm can
do ZModem. Just hit sz <filename> on UNIX and hit Menu->File-> Receive on the
200LX.

I hope this helps!

Mitch
S.U.P.E.R. Team

p.s. - But of course, Andreas' lxtools is the real champ for file transfer.
Thanks again Andreas!

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Date:         Fri, 1 May 1998 13:23:24 +1000
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Now I know why we should discuss these things privately, you prgrammed so
much into it even you don't remember it all <GD&Ring very fast>

David







And Andreas, who reads this list but only in "lurk-mode",
shakes my cage and says:

In the main screen of Post/LX press ADD (F6), then select the
button that says Mailbox!

So there, an additional way to do the same, without getting
out of Post/LX.

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