========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:46:05 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Wireless Internet and HV.exe and offline reading. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:16:09 +1300 (NZDT) 10h06m24s ago ... On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:09:45 -0800, Questor Jones wrote: > I have three questions/subjects: > > 1) What is the best card/phone combo to use on the LX > in terms of ease of install, battery life, etc. See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de There is variety :) > 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make > the fonts bigger? See Ýfonts¨ section in HV.CFG. You can specify fonts for normal/bold/italics/fixed and also Header1-4. > 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but > I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to > use those. Is there any easy way to download pages on > PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other > program. I just want to specify a page and depth and > load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it > later. See http://www.dasoft.com, and look for ROBOWEB/LX - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:51:03 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Wireless Internet and HV.exe and offline reading. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:09:45 -0800, Questor Jones wrote: > I have three questions/subjects: > > 1) What is the best card/phone combo to use on the LX > in terms of ease of install, battery life, etc. I use a Ericsson T39m and are satisfied. Batterylife is better than the Nokia 6210 I had before. But these phones only works with WWW/LXif you want to use Irda. Check out Daniel's excellent website about Hplx<->cellphones. http://daniel.hplx.net > 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make > the fonts bigger? I think this is explained in Hv.cfg under ÝFonts¨ > 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but > I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to > use those. Is there any easy way to download pages on > PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other > program. I just want to specify a page and depth and > load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it > later. > > Any help would be appreciated. Tony is the man to talk too about this. His ROBOWEB/LX can do anything you want. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:51:05 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HPLX Light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:50:18 -0800, Questor Jones wrote: > Does anyone know of a place that sells a light for the > 100LX? > > I know I can build one, but I think that would cost > more in time and effort than it would be to buy one > from someplace. > > Also, along the lines of building one, has anyone ever > adapted a GameBoy Snake light for use with a 100LX? > Seems like it would be a time-save in the creation > process. We have had the Snakelight in the store where I work. I do not think that it has the quality that is needed to be usefull. We did not sell many before we stopped. I think we got them all back, because they stopped working. Not sure why though. They were just dead. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 22:08:58 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Wireless Internet and HV.exe and offline reading. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thu, 1 Nov 2001 21:55:09 +1300 (NZDT) 01h04m06s ago ... On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:51:03 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote: > I use a Ericsson T39m and are satisfied. Batterylife is > better than the Nokia 6210 I had before. But these phones > only works with WWW/LXif you want to use Irda. I have got used to the T39 too - battery seems to last forever :) Finally when someone calls I now just flip the flap - before I flipped and pressed "yes", which put the caller on hold immediately. The local GPRS provider is so concerned about my poor signal at home they are sending someone out to test! In the CBD it is fine. One trick I have learned though is the "battery reboot" - after this GPRS *always* works well. This could be a problem with the way they "tune" GPRS here - maybe too high a "re-use factor" and too much "shadowing" or whatever they call it. > Tony is the man to talk too about this. His ROBOWEB/LX can > do anything you want. Hehe. It can import a tree while totally offline, and re-index it (w/o POST/LX) but I think Questor may be able to maybe download his HTML tree direct to a flashcard on his PC, then just plug that into the palmtop. Maybe a drive letter would need to be globally replaced to have the links work. Martin, I got a shock when I received my first GPRS bill .. but they tell me it will get cheaper "soon" :) - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:37:21 -0200 Reply-To: Gustavo R Leal Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gustavo R Leal Subject: Alley Cat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx? The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them. I can4t enter in the rooms too. Help please! Gustavo R Leal. BRAZIL _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:17:04 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: "Internal Stack overflow" - what to do? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Daniel wrote: > Barry wrote: > > I don't think playing with the stacks word in config.sys will > > have anything to do with it. That's about stacks used by > > hardware interrupts if I remember right. > I has not helped indeed. The STACKS in CONFIG.SYS is for MS-DOS internal stacks. MS-DOS uses its internal stacks when servicing interrupts. Stack overflows occur (usually) when interrupts are happening faster than they are serviced. Or when a user's program has been constained in memory (but usually different symptoms). There are some PC Magazine utilities to determine how many stack positions are actually used to set STACKS to the proper value. STACKS=0,0 usually works, STACKS=9,256 is for debug purposes (sort of) when 0,0 dosen't work. You could run the stack monitoring utilities before (and after) your macros to see if something is filling the stacks and not returning properly. However, I think you need to see if something is taking _much_ longer to complete now than it used to, so MS-DOS is prevented from normal operation and can't service a recurring interrupt. I think the error message can also be generated (in error?) when COMMAND.COM is corrupted or reloaded incorrectly. In that case a hard reset and cold boot to reset memory may help. Or you may just be out of usable memory at some point in your macro. Good luck, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:20:11 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: "Internal Stack overflow" - what to do? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I have now removed all TSR which are not _very_ > necessary, and now it worked last night. There's no way to be sure but there's a pretty good chance you're just running out of memory. All programs are supposed to detect that situation and return an error and just terminate gracefully. But in fact that's the easiest place to find a bug in a program. It's difficult for the programmer to figure out all the places the program can run out of memory. Especially in a complex program. So they pick the most likely spots and protect them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 18:31:46 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: OT: Turbo Pascal 7.0 - now Delphi Rules! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here I must butt in. I have been a Delphi programmer for the last 5 years. Borland made the mistake of naming it Delphi rather than "Kickass Visual Pascal" . I bet very few of you know about Kylix. Once again Borland not going for a name like "RAD Visual Pascal for Linux". That is the first RAD cross platform tool with native compilers for Linux / Solaris, based on Pascal. (I think). (They call it Object Pascal; I call it Delphi. It's one and the same, except for the operating system differences.). Delphi/Pascal is extremely easy to read - more so than C++, creates very efficient binary code (can be used to create Device drivers, Windows services, Web Servers, Web applications, Database servers, etc, etc. Low level stuff in other words. So Pascal is not dead - not by a long shot. It's just called Delphi / Kylix these days. Spread the good news. :-P Donald Klopper micha@icon.co.za ----- Original Message ----- From: Feldman, Robert To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal 7.0 > I would agree. Pascal was all the rage in Computer Science departments about > 10 years ago, but it has faded away. Just had too many limitations. (I have > heard it refered to as a "B&D" -- as in Bondage and Discipline -- language > because of the restrictions it imposed on programmers.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 19:45:17 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal 7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TP 7 is very slow on the 200LX single speed - it also requires a fair amount of space on the CF card. You can try ealier versions - Turbo Pascal 5 will work quite well, and Turbo Pascal 3 / Turbo BSD ?? have been coded with XT's in mind. Any program developed in TP 7 without "Protected mode" should work fine in the HP. This was one of my main motivations for buying the HP in the first place. I will be happy to assist anyone with Pascal programming - I'm not a guru, but I'm accomplished. - refer to my other OT mail on Delphi !!!! Much better to learn Pascal with - you can always apply the knowledge gained from Delphi (3 and above) to normal HP - Pascal coding... Donald Klopper micha@icon.co.za ----- Original Message ----- From: John J Vander Stel To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 2:19 AM Subject: Turbo Pascal 7.0 > Hi all, > > I just found a book for $2.50 on the shelf of our local goodwill shop > called, "Turbo Pascal Programming 101" and it has me intrigued. It's a > book aimed at beginners, and it sounds like Turbo Pascal 7.0 for DOS is > an excellent programming language. I think that I would enjoy learning > that language. Can anyone tell me if it will run on my double speed > 32meg HP200LX? If so, are there any installation problems or tips that I > should be aware of? > > Also, does anyone know where I could find a copy of Turbo Pascal 7.0? > > Cheers! > > John Vander Stel > Grand Rapids, Michigan > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 15:04:24 -0500 Reply-To: esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Suresh Nirody Subject: Recent post re Xybernaut info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A little more information: Looks like Xybernaut is doing this in conjunction with Hitachi. Hitachi selling the same product as a 'Wearable Internet Appliance', see www.hitachi.co.jp/Prod/vims/wia/eng/main.html (page is in English) Some further info from Xybernaut: Cost estimated to be $1,495 and battery life of ONLY 3 hours.... This last kills it for me..... Suresh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:08:16 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Lotus for banking Longden Loo writes: > > it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for anyone > to > > try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty > worksheet > > in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)? > > /wey > > Worksheet Erase Yes > > This just erases the current in-memory worksheet, not the disk file > version. > I have a saved worksheet called ABLANK.WK1 which has only macros defined for ALT-S "save" and ALT-A "save as". I treat this as a "blank" worksheet. I call it "ABLANK" so that it appears first when i start up lotus with auto123 -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 23:35:19 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Alley Cat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What is Alleycat? Cheers... Russ Gustavo R Leal wrote: > Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx? > The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them. > I can4t enter in the rooms too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:57:03 -0800 Reply-To: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: 700LX and wireless desktop Comments: To: mikko.kangas@KOLUMBUS.FI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Josef Meyer Subject: Problem with POST/LX over COM1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external modem connected to COM1: Even with slow baud rate (9600) I have a very poor transmission, often ending with time out. I have this since IRDA has been introduced in POST/LX 2.x (I believe Andreas took some measures in POST/LX to make IRDA connections to mobile phones more reliable (EMI problems)). This happened with several modems I used (U.S. Robotics, Zyxel, Ericsson phones with RS232 cables). N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with HV, FTP, etc! Mostly I used a PCMCIA modem, but now I tried to connect an Ericsson T39m mobile phone via RS232 cable and again I found this problem. Has anybody else experienced the same? Josef Meyer ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:52:03 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Alley Cat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gustavo On Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:37:21 -0200, Gustavo R Leal wrote: > Does anyone knows why the Alleycat game doesn4t work 100% on my 200lx? > The windows are opening too slow, and no objects are dropping from them. > I can4t enter in the rooms too. There seem to be various version of alleycat arround (patched / cracked versions?). I have a version here which you can play fairly well on the LX, but which can"t be exited anymore with the usual ctrl-z hotkey. YOu hvae to reboot in order to quit it. I can send it to you, if you want. Please, send me your version, I'd like to compare these two. Oh - do you have a double speed palmtop? If not, this could also be a reason that the game is slow. oops - kitty, kitty, kitty! :-) daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 13:52:18 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: lxbackup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, reviewing my log statistics regarding access to the subpages of my homepage, I noticed that there were lots of access attempts to www.daniel-hertrich.de/lxbackup I'm sorry, but this URL is not correct (I must have referred to it in one of my postings here). The correct URL is http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/backuplx GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 14:39:49 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Problem with POST/LX over COM1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Josef On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:00:52 +0100, Josef Meyer wrote: > N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with HV, FTP, etc! I have never seen such a behaviour, but since it only occurs with Post/LX, this makes me think it is NOT a general connection problem, such as a bad phone line or the wrong transmission protocol / compression on modem (=hardware) layer. Even TCP should have nothing to do with that, because HV works. Could it be that it dependson your email provider? Which one is it? Did you try anotherone? Maybe the email provider's servers are slow and unreliable. Or, in the worst case, the email provider uses bad implementations of the POP and SMTP protocol. Another source of problems could be bad settings in post.cfg. If you post your relevant post.cfg lines here (without the password line, of course!! ;-) ), maybe something gets clearer. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:53:59 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Problem with POST/LX over COM1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 3 Nov 2001 02:30:48 +1300 (NZDT) 02h29m56s ago ... On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:00:52 +0100, Josef Meyer wrote: > Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external > modem connected to COM1: > N.B. This problem occurs only with POST/LX, but not with > HV, FTP, etc! This means the WWW/LX setup is fine and the hardware (port/cable etc) is fine. I wonder if there is something unusual about the way you run POST.EXE. > Mostly I used a PCMCIA modem, Oh, that means your POST/LX setup is fine too! > but now I tried to connect an Ericsson T39m mobile phone > via RS232 cable and again I found this problem. So, again, does HV and FTP work, but not POST/LX, via this cable? If so, is their any pattern in where POST/LX times out? Is it when waiting for a POP server to respond, or while trying to send an e-mail, or in the middle of receiving an e-mail? > Has anybody else experienced the same? I haven't and I can't imagine what the problem could be. Possibly something to do with data flow patterns using POP3 and SMTP - as compared with HTTP and FTP? A relation between that and the serial port UART? I use a USRobotics 56K external modem here, with WWW/LX. I have Baud=19200 and ModemInit=AT&F1. Works really well. One interesting experiment would be to try using a different palmtop if you have one. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:58:27 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Problem with POST/LX over COM1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Josef Meyer wrote: > > Using POST/LX 3.1a I have a problem if I use an external modem > connected to COM1: > Has anybody else experienced the same? I use POST/LX alternatively with - a 3COM USRobotics 56K external modem - two 14.4k and one 56k PCMCIA modem and - IrDA through a 8810 and I have ZERO problems. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:07:54 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: OT: Turbo Pascal 7.0 - now Delphi Rules! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Micha Klopper wrote: > Delphi/Pascal is extremely easy to read - more > so than C++, creates very efficient binary code > (can be used to create Device drivers, Windows > services, Web Servers, Web applications, > Database servers, etc, etc. Low level stuff in > other words. C and C++ are used to write those things, too. Sometimes assembly is used to optimize things but that happens less and less as computers get faster. I don't know much about Delphi but I've played with Pascal a bit learning how certain algorithms work because the sampe I found was in Pascal. I agree that it's a perfectly good language. And for a Pascal programmer, it's probably a lot more readable. I'm a C programmer and I think C is easier to read. Of course I'm totally unbiased. :) I do think for someone who wants to program his 200lx C is the better choice because there's so much sample code available for the 200lx. I don't think Pascal is a bad choice either. I do think I'd reccomend an older version than 7.0 just because of the speed of the 200lx and the demands of the IDE. Actually I'd probably reccomend not using the IDE. The debugger won't work on the 200lx anyway. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:39:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, especailly Ericsson T39m users! I'm currently developing a program which should be capable to copy the HPLX phone book onto a mobile phone via IrDa. It wil be named PDB2PHN. It does that by using a cdf file created by gdbio as its input, creating a simpl output file and then robot/lx with the phone.scr script shall take that output file and send the contents to the phone. I can already create that file. But everytime I try to use phone.scr to send it to the phone, it fails. It even overwrites the file it actually should use to send it. :-( Martin, Tony, Josef,... does anyone of you have experiences with the phone.scr script? Does it work without modification with the T39m? I use this line on my post.cfg external section to transfer the phone book: Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt" When I try to execute it, phonemem.txt is overwritten by a 0 byte file. :-( I saw in the phone.scr itself in the comments that one should place quotes around the arguments. I tried this either, but then it seemed to ignore the arguments... Thanks a lot for your help daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:40:18 +0000 Reply-To: Chris Randle Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: OT: Turbo Pascal 7.0 - now Delphi Rules! MIME-Version: 1.0 Micha Klopper writes >So Pascal is not dead - not by a long shot. It's just called Delphi / Kylix >these days. > >Spread the good news. :-P Thanks for saying what I was going to say. Pascal is indeed a very elegant and useful language, and Delphi is an incredibly powerful implementation. In addition to being a RAD product, don't forget that it is fully object oriented(*) which opens up a whole new world of excitement to jaded programmers! Chief architect was Anders Hejlsberg, who was head-hunted by Microsoft to lead the development of C#. I reckon either he was offered $1 million a year or Mr Gates has the negatives. The only reason Pascal is "dead", is nothing to do with any failing of the language or implementation. It's because brain dead IT directors, particularly in this country (UK) blindly follow the Microsoft trail of second-rate crashing bloatware. Not for fear of being wrong, but for fear of being in a minority. I've never spoke to any developer who has _used_, say MS Visual C++ and Delphi, who wouldn't use Delphi in preference. I mean _used_ as opposed to used one and look at the other for 5 minutes. On the 200, I use Borland's Turbo Pascal 5.5 which is freely available from their website. Lost the link, but look for "Community" then "Museum". Full IDE, help files, debugging (some limitations on 200), etc. I also use their (also free) Turbo C 2.01 and Turbo C++ 1.01. The C++ compiler is much slower than the C; particularly noticeable on the 200. The benefits of having OO for a program of the size you're likely to develop _on_ a palmtop (as opposed to _for_ a palmtop) means that the C compiler is the better bet, IMO. (*) No multiple inheritance, but most think that's a blessing. In emergencies, use interfaces, a la COM. -- Chris Randle - Amethyst Logic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:50:26 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Problem with POST/LX over COM1 Comments: To: Josef Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Josef, I enjoyed the topic of the email you sent privately: SUCCESS! As I wrote to you in private on the Post/LX issue, I think it is not necessarily a Post/LX problem, or a configuration of it even, but possibly an ISP, as Daniel also speculated. Don't forget that most ISPs use more than one machine, and they generally put the functions in separate machines. It is possible that their email machine is misconfigured. It is possible their machine is overloaded. When D&A was hosted by its previous host, the FTP machine was extraordinarily slow - I think I clocked it at over 60 seconds to respond many many times. They never figured out why, but I put together D&A's alternative files download "site" just for that reason. It is also possible that they misconfigured their own servers and things are dismal for that reason. I made a suggestion for you to try out another ISP and also 2 items how to do it. Pls let us all know, or in private, makes no difference. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:38:45 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card Comments: To: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii John, Sorry to hear yours is doing the same :-( Got an Email from John Richardson at Mass5thCav. He seems like a stand up guy! Offered to replace or refund (my Option). I will forward his msg to you. Here are the steps I went through: After installing the acecard3.com driver into the c drive config.sys on my 200lx as "device=c:acecard3.com /sdp" In 200lx DS from DOS (in filer, menu, O, D, to get to DOS: d:\bin\Fdisk100 gives: "Fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:" d:\dos\format A: gives: "insert new disk...etc" "Checking existing disk format" "Formatting 64k" "Invalid Media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable" "Format Terminated" "Format Another (Y/N)?" Tried a power book. Was not able to see the card in any mode. Tried an NT laptop(compaq) was not able to sense until card was removed, then gave "unknown 16 bit card in D:" Unable to Fdisk or format the card in the Compaq. Called Sandisk and described the card and errors. they think that the card is bad. Tried my 200lx single speed backup unit : After installing the acecard3.com driver into the c drive config.sys on my 200lx as "device=c:acecard3.com /sdp" from DOS (in filer, menu, O, D, to get to DOS: d:\bin\Fdisk100 gives: "Fdisk is not needed for card in slot A:" d:\dos\format A: gives: "insert new disk...etc" "Checking existing disk format" "Formatting 3.07M" "Invalid Media or Track 0 bad - disk unusable" "Format Terminated" "Format Another (Y/N)?" Let me know how it goes with you as I would like to get a replacement instead of refund if a 440mb can be made to work. PS I will forward this to the HPLX list as well Joe "John A. Evans - N0HJ" on 11/01/2001 06:43:00 PM To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM cc: Subject: Re: Help formating 440MB PC Card Joe, I received my card from Mass5thCav today. Card reacts the same way yours did, so we are both in the same boat. My win98 Omnibook 800CT could not format it. It sees it in the card slot, but only as a slot 1 device and not as an IDE hard drive controller. I'll take this guy to work tomorrow and see if I can get a notebook there to recognize it and/or redo the partition and format it. How is your quest going?? I will document each step if I am successful tomorrow - you do the same if you get further along. tnx, john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:07:09 -0800 Reply-To: Ron Zhang Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Zhang Subject: Re: Lotus for banking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push the Ý123¨ button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea? Thanks. Ron >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:57:55 +0100 >From: Nathalie Bugeaud >Subject: Re: Lotus for banking > >Steve kindly suggested > > >Try this...If all goes well you will see a list of = files in > >c:\_dat to select. > >it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for anyone to >try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty worksheet >in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)? > > amities - > Nathalie :) > >------------------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:55:02 -0700 Reply-To: jaevans@codenet.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John_Evans Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card Comments: To: Chris Lott , Joseph.Buford@HSC.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found the following on deja.com - the win95 machine I tried it on at work didn't have a type 40 drive so I couldn't uncheck/check the Int13 box, but will try this at home tonight on my win98 box. Any experts who can comment on this?? john ----------------------------------------------------------------- Partitioning a SanDisk FlashDisk or CompactFlash. Click on My Computer Click on Control Panel Click on System Click on Device Manager Click on View Devices by Type Double Click Disk Drives Double Click on GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 80 Choose the following settings: * Removable * Int 13** **IF Int13 is already checked, un-check the box, then re-check the box. Choose OK Close Device Manager by choosing OK. The system will prompt you to restart. Choose YES. Reboot your system by shutting down (Click on Start) After rebooting, go to DOS. Click on Start Point to Programs Point to MS-DOS Prompt Partitioning your SanDisk Card: At the DOS prompt (C:\>), type FDISK Type 5 for Change Current Fixed Disk Drive "Enter Fixed Disk Drive Number (1-2)" Type 2 Type 4 for Display Partition Information WARNING: MAKE SURE THAT THE "FIXED DISK" YOU HAVE CHOSEN IS THE CORRECT ONE (I.E., MAKE SURE THAT THE CAPACITY AGREES WITH THE CAPACITY OF YOUR PCMCIA CARD). IF YOU ACCIDENTLY CHOOSE YOUR MAIN (C:) HARD DRIVE AS THE "FIXED DISK" YOU WANT TO PARTITION, YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF THE DATA ON THAT DRIVE! Now partition your SanDisk Card as you would an ordinary IDE hard drive. Formatting your SanDisk Card: At the C:\> prompt in DOS, type FORMAT D: Note: The above command assumes that your SanDisk Card is seen as drive D:. If your situation is different, substitute the appropriate drive letter. Now go back and make your SanDisk Card removable: Click on My Computer Click on Control Panel Click on System Click on Device Manager Click on View Devices by Connections Double Click on PCIC or Compatible PCMCIA Controller Double Click on SanDisk ATA FlashDisk Double Click on GENERIC IDE DISK TYPE 80 Choose the following settings: * Removable * Int 13 Choose OK Reboot your system by shutting down (Click on Start) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:55:02 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris, Boots normaly with the card in. When I go to Filer, display comes up as full width (not split lik when my CF is in) and when I try read the A: drive, gives me "Drive not ready" Joe Chris Lott on 11/02/2001 09:45:40 AM Please respond to Chris Lott To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM cc: Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card Joe: You don't specifically say, but what happens after you just boot, before you start to try and FDISK and FORMAT it. I presume you've tried it, but what happens when you just type A: to try and change to the disk? -Chris ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:13:10 -0700 Reply-To: jaevans@codenet.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John_Evans Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card Comments: To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Update on the Int13 technique. I took a 64MB flash card I had, put it in the W95 notebook I have here at work and was able to define a type 80 IDE drive as removable, with the Int13 box checked/rechecked. Upon reboot, the system sees my 64MB flash card as a removable drive. Removing it and inserting the 440MB sandisk card does not result in fdisk seeing a second hard drive to be able to format. If I could get a system to see an IDE device, I suspect I could get it to format. No joy so far today. john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:44:03 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:33:33 +1300 (NZDT) 05h54m18s ago ... On Fri, 2 Nov 2001 16:39:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, especailly Ericsson T39m users! Hi Daniel - If you use the ROBOT.EXE that comes with ROBOWEB/LX then the original phone.scr will work. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:13:57 +0100 Reply-To: Norbert_Giese@T-Online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Norbert Giese Subject: Re: Lotus for banking Comments: To: Ron Zhang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron, you need to set the Lotus 1-2-3 configuration accordingly to auto-execute a macro upon file loading. (Freely translated from a German 200LX,) the steps are /Worksheet, Global, Defaults, and then you already should see the parameter. Good luck. Norbert Ron Zhang wrote: > > I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push > the Ý123¨ button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell > A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea? > > Thanks. > > Ron -- Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:34:05 -0500 Reply-To: ronburnett@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Burnett Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Russ, Costco in Hackensack, NJ, has a 128Meg Smartmedia card, ont a CF. Is = that what you meant? Maybe differnt Costco branches have different cards available. Ron > > I just got a 128Meg Sandisk Compact Flash card at Costco for > $59.99. > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Generic Supplement Co-op: http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=3D12491 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:58:24 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD In-Reply-To: <200111022334.SAA06249@siaar1aa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT The Costco's in Goleta and Oxnard, California had both Smartmedia and CF versions of the 128mb card for $60. - Longden On 2 Nov 2001, at 18:34, Ron Burnett wrote: > Russ, > > Costco in Hackensack, NJ, has a 128Meg Smartmedia card, ont a CF. Is > that what you meant? Maybe differnt Costco branches have different > cards available. > > Ron > > > > > I just got a 128Meg Sandisk Compact Flash card at Costco for > > $59.99. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 05:25:37 +0000 Reply-To: bnj@iname.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FWIW If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they sell the 128M CF a= s available for $59.99. Of course this is just for those that are "membe= rs". bob -----Original Message----- From: Longden Loo To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 19:58:24 -0800 Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD The Costco's in Goleta and Oxnard, California had both Smartmedia and CF versions of the 128mb card for $60. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 05:27:04 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Lotus for banking Comments: To: Ron Zhang MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I push > the Ý123¨ button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in cell > A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea? From 123 help: If you want 1-2-3 to run a macro as soon as you retrieve the worksheet that contains it, name the macro \0 (backslash zero) and mark Auto-execute Macros on in the Default Settings dialog box or use /Worksheet Global Default Autoexec. Then select Update to save the change in the configuration file so 1-2-3 uses the new setting in future sessions. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:32:37 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:44:03 +1300, Tony Hutchins wrote: > Hi Daniel - If you use the ROBOT.EXE that comes with > ROBOWEB/LX then the original phone.scr will work. > Yes, it is this version, I think. How do you call phone.scr? With all the quotes or without? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 23:45:17 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay In-Reply-To: <1004765137.45caaffcbnj@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012 Perhaps they will relist them again. Questor PS(I am not associated with this seller.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:43:21 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:28:32 +1300 (NZDT) 01h55m55s ago ... On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:32:37 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > How do you call phone.scr? With all the quotes or without? Oh, sorry - I see what you mean - this won't work: Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt" From the DOS prompt, this works: robot phone "put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt" so, for the external you need to put the above line in a bat file, say PHONEPUT.BAT and have Upload Phone book to &MEM=PHONEPUT.BAT Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat say ROBOFONE.BAT: ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3" and have Upload Phone book to &MEM=ROBOFONE.BAT put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 01:01:50 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Wireless Internet and HV.exe and offline reading. Comments: To: Questor Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Questor Jones wrote: > 2) I have used HV.exe, does anyone know how to make > the fonts bigger? Check the CFG! Also there is a fair amount of info in the HV documentation. > 3) I would like to do offline reading with HV.exe, but > I don't use LXTCP stuff and get.exe seems to want to > use those. Is there any easy way to download pages on > PC for easy viewing using HV.EXE or some other > program. I just want to specify a page and depth and > load it web extracted data onto my CF card to read it > later. GET.EXE wants to use WWW.EXE. WWW.EXE is a commercial product from D&A Software. Check out http://www.dasoft.com... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 01:02:12 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Lotus / Banking Comments: To: Ron.Zhang@Sun.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your emails come in malformed! Try making the macro name \0 not \O. > Content-MD5: 7EncT3IY4+la6xjRzfDBnw=3D=3D > X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc > Message-ID: <200111021807.KAA13751@homeworld.Eng.Sun.COM> > Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:07:09 -0800 > Reply-To: Ron Zhang > Sender: HPLX Mailing List > From: Ron Zhang > Subject: Re: Lotus for banking > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > > I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I = push > the Ý123¨ button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in = cell > A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea? > > Thanks. > > Ron > > >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:57:55 +0100 > >From: Nathalie Bugeaud > >Subject: Re: Lotus for banking > > > >Steve kindly suggested > > > > >Try this...If all goes well you will see a list of =3D files in > > >c:\_dat to select. > > > >it worked well, and i included auto123.wk1 in the my'money.zip for = anyone > to > >try. .. just one question, using auto123 - how do i get an empty = worksheet > >in order to create a new file (without leaving Lotus)? > > > > amities - > > Nathalie :) > > > >------------------------------ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:55:05 -0700 Reply-To: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: Help formatting 440MB PC Card Comments: To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe et al, Just a thought here. Could our 440MB cards be drawing too much current for the 200LX?? When I turn on my 200LX with my 440MB Sandisk card in the slot, I get a battery low message. Could that have damaged the card? Joe, are you seeing the low battery indication, too? I get this whether I have the power adapter plugged in or not. john ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 09:24:17 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Lotus for banking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I can only get to the point where auto123.wk1 is opened every time I = push > the Ý123¨ button, but it won't automatically execute the "\O" macro in = cell > A1. I have to push Alt+O to get it to work. Any idea? Start 123 and go to Menu Worksheet Global Default Autoexec then set this = to Yes. Now select Update to save this setting. Autoexec means 123 automati= cally executes the \0 macro when the file is loaded. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 06:50:19 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012 > > Perhaps they will relist them again. The ones on ebay looked different than the ones at Costco (white label for the former vs red label for the latter). I wonder if they differ in specs ... I heard Sandisk was switching over to a newer higher capacity chip of some sort. If that were the case, maybe they differ in power requirements. Could be the ebay items were older? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:53:57 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: boblintw here? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with "boblintw@..."? I keep getting email viri from this email address, containing text like "here is a file for your advice" or so. Today already 7 of these emails! So, it might be interesting for this person that he sends lots of emails he probably doesn't know of. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Virus attack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Over the last couple of month I received about 10 virus emails of the kind: > Hi! How are you? > I send you this file in order to have your advice > See you later. Thanks I didn't care much about it and simply deleted them. But today I got already 7 of those with 0.5 MB each, and this is really annoying! The header says: > X-UIDL: d3f36d4eb6e21768 > Return-Path: > Received: from ms16.hinet.net (Ý168.95.4.16¨) by mailin02.sul.t-online.d= e > with esmtp id 15zvPK-1EInOyC; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 08:39:58 +0100 > Received: from MonKey.hinet.net (61-216-14-127.HINET-IP.hinet.net = Ý61.216.14.127¨) > by ms16.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA25883 > for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:38:27 +0800 = (CST) > Message-Id: <200111030738.PAA25883@ms16.hinet.net> > From: "boblintw" > To: stefan.peichl@t-online.de > Subject: phdnew1A > date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 15:33:51 +0800 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=3D"----63B4E278_Outlook_Express_= message_boundary" > Content-Disposition: Multipart message I know that the whole header may be faked, but probably some of you are also concerned and got similar emails. That could probably help in identifying the infected computer which I suspect to be somewhere among the list members. At least those 7 I received today seem to have the same origin. Sounds familiar to any of you? Thanks Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:10:30 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Virus attack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Sounds familiar to any of you? hehe, yes. ;-) I have just put it on the GMX anti-spam-list. Now I hopefully don't get these emails anymore. But that is of course no real solution. These emails have to be stopped! So, anyone, even if you are not boblintw, please check your Outlook folders and try to monitor outgoing traffic! boblintw can be anyone here. Especially Outlook users! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:15:18 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Virus attack In-Reply-To: <1602Jd-1wrGj2C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 3 Nov 2001 16:02:25 +0000 Stefan Peichl a =E9crit: > Over the last couple of month I received about 10 virus emails > of the kind: >=20 > > Hi! How are you? > > I send you this file in order to have your advice > > See you later=2E Thanks It's Sircam, a very active virus last months=2E You can get more infos from : http://www=2Esymantec=2Ecom/avcenter/venc/data/w32=2Esircam=2Eworm@mm=2Eh= tml > I know that the whole header may be faked, but probably some > of you are also concerned and got similar emails=2E=20 In this case (Sircam) the header is true=2E You can Ýshould¨ send an email to the adress appearing in the "From:" field to say him that his computer is infected=2E=2E=2E Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:03:45 -0500 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Free Paradox 3.5 manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the users manual only, for Borland Paradox 3.5. First person to email me can have it, free. You pay for media mail shipping! Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 14:31:18 -0500 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Free The Norton Utilities 6 book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Free to the first person that email's me... The first book of The Norton Utilities 6 ISBN # 0-672-27384-5 You pay for media mail shipping. Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 18:21:05 -0500 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: My email address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It just occured to me that I didn't include my email address for anyone who might want the free book or manual. That happens when you are so engrossed in looking thru your whole library of books and manuals! :-) Anyways my email is: mikeschn@ameritech.net Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:14:29 +0000 Reply-To: Mark Crumpton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Crumpton Organization: Arcade - The Definitive Acorn BBS Subject: FS: As-new HP95LX Connectivity Pack (UK/Europe) Attention, 95LX users! After sorting through some of my old computer 'stuff', I discovered a boxed HP95LX->IBM Connectivity Pack (code F1001A). It's in unused condition and includes cable/disk/paperwork. Anyone want to make me an offer for it (preferably in UK/Europe)... please email me off-list. BTW, I think the cable is also suitable for HP-48 calculators? - Mark -- ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ | Free Internet E-mail and Usenet News | | / \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \ | +44 20 8654 2212 +44 20 8655 4412/1811 | | A R C A D E | Croydon UK - Fidonet#2:254/27.0 | | The Definitive Acorn BBS | http://www.arcade-bbs.net off peak | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 23:08:07 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01C164BC.6648A270" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C164BC.6648A270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just bought a used AC Adaptor: STANCOR Model STA-3590A Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W Output: 9VDC 300mA Class 2 Transformer It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as well), = but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom. The person whom I bought this from = said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned = about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC. Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX? (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on = inside). Thanks ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C164BC.6648A270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I just bought a used  AC Adaptor:
 
STANCOR Model STA-3590A
Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W
Output: 9VDC 300mA
Class 2 Transformer
 
It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume = the 100LX=20 as well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom.  The person whom I = bought=20 this from said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am = concerned=20 about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says=20 9VDC.
 
Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100=20 LX?
 
(I should mention the polarity is correct with + on = outside=20 and - on inside).
 
Thanks
------=_NextPart_000_007F_01C164BC.6648A270-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:20:40 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, I'd suggest to use a voltmeter and measure output voltage. If the voltage is too low, the adapter will not supply your Palmtop, but it will not do harm. If your adapter is not regulated it will probably have a higher output voltage when not connected to a palmtop. It could be high enough to be sufficient. So you can use it without problems. Generally regulated power supplies are better, there you know what you get. Cheap power supplies only have a transformator, a simple rectifier with a (ususally too small) condensator to smoothe the ripple and no voltage control circuit. So the voltage is (much) higher than written on the badge when the supply is not connected to a consumer. Voltage is dependent from the load in these devices. 73! de Werner OE9FWV On 3 Nov 2001, at 23:08, Tralornik wrote: > > I just bought a used AC Adaptor: > > STANCOR Model STA-3590A > Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W > Output: 9VDC 300mA > Class 2 Transformer > > It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as > well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom. The person whom I bought > this from said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am > concerned about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only > says 9VDC. > > Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX? > > (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on > inside). > > Thanks > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 22:46:04 -0800 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Chess Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, I was browsing for info on a Win2000 chess program. (Chessmaster= 6000 does not run) when I came across "Chenard" by Don Cross. It has a DOS cga version. Freeware. = While I have Chessmaster 2100 which works OK on the I'm always interested in something new. OK new to me. It seems to run well on my 100lx And is much easier to see than= 2100. < http://home.intersrv.com/~dcross/chenard.html > -- Patrick West, patrick@west.net on 11/03/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:17:46 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an Omnibook 800? Finally, someone (Martin Diehl) developed a Linux driver for the Omnibook 800's IrDA port. Now we are trying to make it work for connections between the palmtop and the Omnibook. How does it work in Windows? Do you have to set something special to make it work regarding IrDA or not IrDA? Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:26:09 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX? I would be hesitant. Some adaptors produce a bit over the rated voltage. = So this one may put out around 10-11 Volts. The 100LX and 200LX need 12 = Volts but can deal with something close to 12 Volts. So, the adaptor may provide = just enough voltage to get by, but there could still be problems. As the = palmtop draws more power, like when using a modem, the adaptor's voltage may drop = too low and then the palmtop will switch to using the batteries. So, you may = think the adaptor is working, but it may not help when you need it most. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 11:37:51 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have the same Stancor AC Adapter you are referring to. The 200LX User's Guide states a Min voltage of 9.6V and a Max of 14.4V, nominal voltage of 12V. Although I bought this adapter as a used, secondary unit, it appears to work fine. Putting the LX in Setup mode on battery power only you will see: Source: Battery Turn the unit off and plug the Stancor AC adapter into the unit: Source: Adapter Since is being recognized and it is pulling sufficient power to run the unit, I have no qualms about using it. If I'm not mistaken, all these adapters are 9Volt+/- 5% or so. If you have a voltmeter, test the output. I'd be interested to know. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:59:58 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Subject: HP200LX Screen problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently lost all power to my HP200LX and lost all the data. I had the Times2Tech memory/speed upgrade. Upon rebooting/initializing, the Screen is "shifted" about 2 characters to the right, ie the last 2 characters that should be on the far RIGHT of the screen appear on the far LEFT. The screen settles into this condition after a few seconds of fuzzy flowing in the 2 leftmost characters. If I use the menu+ < in DOS, the screen shifts, but the 2 leftmost characters dissappear. Is there any way to restore the screen to its original "normal" condition? Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:28:10 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP200LX Screen problem Comments: To: Ed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I recently lost all power to my HP200LX and lost all the data. I had the > Times2Tech memory/speed upgrade. You need to reinstall the speed driver. The double speed crystal does that to SOME HP displays based on some inherent characterists of the individual unit. So you need to probably add at least the following line to config.sys on your BOOT drive: device=c:\spd31.exe Where c:\ might be the path where you have that file located? You might also need to add the drivers, etc for the memory upgrade, too, if you don't see the extra memory. And whether or not you had it swapping c: for f: or whatever the large drive would be. Good luck ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 12:28:01 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just bought it from a fellow listmember a few weeks ago. He said he had used it in his office for several years without any problem. I've had it in use for about 2 weeks in my office where it is plugged in to a 200LX for about 10 hours a day. I am not an EE so I'm not the person to ask re voltage outputs vs regulated input. Perhaps someone with more EE savvy can tell us both if the LX itself determines and limits the input into the unit regardless of what the adapter is putting out, thus eliminating any overload problems internally. I wonder, too, why 9v or 12v when the unit runs on 3v worth of AA batteries. Like I said, I'm no EE. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 20:24:52 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: del XGREP in favor of XTGOLD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit after using XTGOLD for over 5 years i just stumbled upon its Search feature in directories. As a result i deleted XGREP. The View feature in XTGOLD highlights all occurances of the seached item in all tagged files. It also shows LOTUS 123 files. nat (still in Australia) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:02:09 MST Reply-To: Bob Love Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Love Subject: Can SmartMedia Cards be used in 200LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there adapter to get SmartMedia Cards to work with the Palmtops? Bob Love 1-800-638-8556 x6326 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:22:42 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Fw: Re: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, I just tested it. It pumps out 15 to 16 volts. I also tried my universal adaptor and found that most setting were always a good 3 to 5 volts over whatever selection I chose. So if this this puts out 15 to 16 volts, is that okay? Is it too much? How do I know what it is putting out under load of the palmtop? Another big question for me is what does the palm need 12 Volts for anyway...I mean it only uses two 1.5 volt batteries? If I am not recharging, where does the need for 12 volts come from? By the way, how long have you been using your Stancor adaptor? How did you come to the decision to use that adaptor? (what is on a compatible adaptor list or something? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 14:26:12 -0600 Reply-To: Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: del XGREP in favor of XTGOLD In-Reply-To: <005101c16567$b0dd1400$78a30ccb@nathalie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been hunting for a DOS ver. of XTGold.... Anyone know where I can find one? Just found a clone (actually links to several clones, etc.... some work in Linux/Unix and Windows) at: http://www.xtreefanpage.org/ I'll prob. try the DOS clone(s) in my LX.... Hope they work as well as the original.... --ttr ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 23:08:54 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A further comment on checking voltages; it should be done under load. Just checking the votage at the connector without a load may be quite misleading, especially on an unregulated supply. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:01:35 -0800 Reply-To: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: Converting NOKIA 8210 phone book to Hp200lx database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I have been able to download the whole phone book of my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries are now stored in a comma delimited text file. I am trying to convert this file into a database using gdbload to append it to my already existing phone database. I think I have folowed all the steps correctly but I always get an error from the program stating: gbolad(1): can't match field hogar' My first field is "hogar" and the second field is "nombre" The text file I am trying to convert looks like this: hogar,nombre 609633499,Josu Movil 678678635,Alex Movil 900122508,Josea Irigoyen etc... What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my Spanish hp200lx? By the way I have discovered a very easy method for downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210 using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges using infrared. Anybody interested? i Thanks, Inigo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:28:02 -0600 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Tralornik wrote: > > > I just bought a used AC Adaptor: > > STANCOR Model STA-3590A > Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W > Output: 9VDC 300mA > Class 2 Transformer > > It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the > 100LX as well), but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom. The > person whom I bought this from said they had no problems > using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned about messing up > my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC. > > Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX? > > (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on > outside and - on inside). > > Thanks This is the low end of HPLX adapters. Radio Schlock sells a 500mA 12 volt unit for about $14. Go for it! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 01:27:03 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: del XGREP in favor of XTGOLD In-Reply-To: <005101c16567$b0dd1400$78a30ccb@nathalie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Nov 2001, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > after using XTGOLD for over 5 years i just stumbled upon its Search feature > in directories. As a result i deleted XGREP. The View feature in XTGOLD > highlights all occurances of the seached item in all tagged files. It also > shows LOTUS 123 files. Well, I guess if you don't need Regular Expressions (the real strength of xgrep, apart from the small size of course), you can save a whole 3.5kb by deleting it ;-) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:00:54 +0100 Reply-To: tomas.moberg@ABC.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: boblintw here? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her! > Hi friends, > > is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with > "boblintw@..."? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:12:40 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Fw: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Mr Tralornik, on 4 Nov 2001, at 15:22 Tralornik wrote about: Fw: Re: AC Adaptor > Bob, > > I just tested it. It pumps out 15 to 16 volts. thats what I suspected. unregulated PS with a soft transformator. > > I also tried my universal adaptor and found that most setting were > always a > good 3 to 5 volts over whatever selection I chose. > > So if this this puts out 15 to 16 volts, is that okay? Is it too > much? it is the upper limit. But I think the voltage drops as soon as you connect it. > > How do I know what it is putting out under load of the palmtop? > you have to measure the voltage under load. Go for a connector with attached wires, connect it to your palmtop and then connect the wires to the plug of your Adapter. I use special clamps for this. Be careful to keep the correct polarity. The load of the palmtop will vary dependent on its work status. Loading batteries, supplying a modem, calculating.... With this cheap Adapter voltage will vary according to the load. If it never drops under 9.5 and never is above 15 V DC, it is o.k. I suggest to use an adapter with regulated 12 V DC and 500 mA power. As written on the list, they are not expensive and better for the palmtop. Why the palmtop uses 12 V input? I think this voltage is very common, and it is brought down to the 5 V most electronic parts use in computers by a voltage control circuit. You need less powerful power supplies if you use a higher voltage, and you have no problems to get all internal used voltages for loading batteries, supply of the IC's c etc. 73! de Werner OE9FWV -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:47:13 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony, On Sat, 3 Nov 2001 21:43:21 +1300, Tony Hutchins wrote: > Upload Phone book to &MEM=robot "phone put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt" > > From the DOS prompt, this works: > > robot phone "put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt" > > so, for the external you need to put the above line in a bat > file, say PHONEPUT.BAT and have > > Upload Phone book to &MEM=PHONEPUT.BAT > > Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat > > say ROBOFONE.BAT: > > ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3" > > and have > > Upload Phone book to &MEM=ROBOFONE.BAT put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt I have done this exactly as you described (the BAT file variant). I have robofone.bat with the contents robot phone "%1 %2 %3" @pause and I have the externals in post.cfg: Download Phone book from SIM=robofone.bat get sm a:\_dat\phonesim.txt Download Phone book from MEM=robofone.bat get me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt Upload Phone book to SIM=robofone.bat put sm a:\_dat\phonesim.txt Upload Phone book to MEM=robofone.bat put me a:\_dat\phonemem.txt But somehow it still doesn't work. I have put the pause line into robofone.bat to see error messages and indeed: I tried to do the download from MEM, and the following appeared: Variable not known a2"\r line 11 in phone.scr Something must still be wrong. Could you please send me your phone.scr? The I can see if there are any differences. TNX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:39:40 +0100 Reply-To: Ulrich Boche Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: cc:mail no longer supported MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I saw the following announcement from Lotus: "As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no longer be available." Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:51:48 +0200 Reply-To: Mikko Kangas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikko Kangas Subject: problems with batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1661A.28B1AC40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1661A.28B1AC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have HP Omnigo 700LX (almost identical with HP 200LX), and I recently = began having strange problem with it. When I turn the machine on, it works fine for about 20 seconds, and = then it says "main batt very low" and=20 shuts down. When I press it on again, is just beeps, sceen flashes and = it shuts down again. If I repeatly=20 push the on-button, it sometimes work again about 20 seconds and then = shuts down again. I have changed new batteries several times and problem still exists. When I connect power adaptor to machine, it keeps saying "main battery = very low" but it doesn't shut down. When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, = and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped. Any ideas what could be causing this? ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1661A.28B1AC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have HP Omnigo 700LX (almost identical = with HP=20 200LX), and I recently began having strange = problem=20 with
it. When I turn the machine on, it works fine for = about 20=20 seconds, and then it says "main batt very low" and
shuts down. When I press it on again, is just beeps, = sceen=20 flashes and it shuts down again. If I repeatly
push the on-button, it sometimes work again about 20 = seconds=20 and then shuts down again.
I have changed new batteries several times and = problem=20 still exists.
When I connect power adaptor to machine, it keeps = saying "main=20 battery very low" but it doesn't shut down.
 
When power cord was connected, I monitored = battery voltage with ABC/LX, and it constantly dropped to = 1.61=20 volts, then
raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again=20 dropped.
 
Any ideas what could be causing=20 this?
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C1661A.28B1AC40-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 07:09:48 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Missing Digest's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I get the HPLX as a digest and sometimes do not rx all the digests. If someone has them could they send me the digest #'s 295,307,308,320,and 332? I hate to mmiss even one word of wisdom from the list! :-) Thanks Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 10:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Contact the author directly. I've done this before on auctions where not all quantities sold and made successful purchases. BTW: as always, caveat emptor. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Longden Loo > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 9:50 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay > > > > All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012 > > > > Perhaps they will relist them again. > > The ones on ebay looked different than the ones at Costco > (white label for > the former vs red label for the latter). I wonder if they > differ in specs > ... I heard Sandisk was switching over to a newer higher > capacity chip of > some sort. If that were the case, maybe they differ in > power requirements. > > Could be the ebay items were older? > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:00:25 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: 95lx and Compact flash Comments: To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found the following in the notes I took from this list: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 10:02 PM Subject: 95lx and Compact flash | Hi, | | I finally got a CF-to-PCMCIA-adapter for my 95lx :-) | Now, can anybody tell me what sandisk CF-cards work with the 95 (I have a | 8MB card labeled SDCFB) and where I can obtain the drivers? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:22:12 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: mail no longer supported In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, damn... that sucks. ;¬P luckily there is http://www.palmtop.com/ > I saw the following announcement from Lotus: > > "As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no > longer be available." > > Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:37:09 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD Comments: To: bnj@iname.com In-Reply-To: <1004765137.45caaffcbnj@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually: from the web site: "Costco Membership (optional) Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number from the back of your Costco membership card. Non-members pay a 5% surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs and gift certificates " 3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price. > > FWIW > If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they > sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99. Of course this > is just for those that are "members". > bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:54:07 -0500 Reply-To: Jack Schudel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Schudel Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just looked on buy.com, and they are selling a 128MB COMPACTFLASH CARD W/PCCARD ADAPTER Manufacturer: SANDISK Type: Supplies $62.95 This sounds pretty good for those of us without a local Costco. /jack -----Original Message----- From: Ed Padin To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:37 AM Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD >Actually: > >from the web site: > >"Costco Membership (optional) >Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number >from the back of your Costco membership card. Non-members pay a 5% >surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs >and gift certificates " > >3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price. > > >> >> FWIW >> If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they >> sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99. Of course this >> is just for those that are "members". >> bob > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 08:57:16 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at for $50 on EBay In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Actually, I bought the $60 card at Costco yesterday. Saving the extra $10 isn't worth the uncertainty and aggravation, except to the most diehard penny-pinching sport-shoppers . > Contact the author directly. I've done this before on auctions where > not all quantities sold and made successful purchases. > > BTW: as always, caveat emptor. > > > All these cards didn't even sell at $50 each ... > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1289828012 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:45:22 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Nov 2001 12:43:16 -0500 (EST) There is also a Kingston 256MB for $109(after $20 Mfr Rebate) www.us.buy.com/retail/computers/product.asp??loc=3D101&sku=3D10265781 Cheers...AJKind 49m09s ago ... On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, Jack Schudel wrote: > I just looked on buy.com, and they are selling a > 128MB COMPACTFLASH CARD W/PCCARD ADAPTER > Manufacturer: SANDISK Type: Supplies > $62.95 > > This sounds pretty good for those of us without a local Costco. > > /jack > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Padin > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD > > >Actually: > > > >from the web site: > > > >"Costco Membership (optional) > >Are you a Costco member? If so, please enter the membership number > >from the back of your Costco membership card. Non-members pay a 5% > >surcharge for Costco Online purchases, except for prescription drugs > >and gift certificates " > > > >3 bux extra? Maybe still an okay price. > > > > > >> > >> FWIW > >> If you go to Costco's website and search on sandisk they > >> sell the 128M CF as available for $59.99. Of course this > >> is just for those that are "members". > >> bob > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:00:14 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 6 Nov 2001 06:49:18 +1300 (NZDT) 05h02m05s ago ... On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:47:13 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Or maybe better is to have a more generic bat > > > > say ROBOFONE.BAT: > > > > ROBOT PHONE "%1 %2 %3" Daniel, sorry, I got this wrong the PHONE needs to be inside the quotes. To run as a POST/LX external you probably want to set the Ir too: wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400" ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3" > Variable not known > a2"\r > line 11 in phone.scr That was because I didn't have the phone in the quotes too. > Something must still be wrong. > Could you please send me your phone.scr? The I can see if there are any > differences. OK I am sure it is the standard one. You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:34:46 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: IR connections between palmtop and Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: IR connection to Omnibook 800 > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 10:17:46 +0200 > From: Daniel Hertrich > >is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an Omnibook 800? > >Finally, someone (Martin Diehl) developed a Linux driver for the >Omnibook 800's IrDA port. Now we are trying to make it work for >connections between the palmtop and the Omnibook. > >How does it work in Windows? Do you have to set something special to >make it work regarding IrDA or not IrDA? > >Thanks >daniel Daniel I've connected my palmtop to my Omnibook 425 via infared. The palmtop uses a predessor to IRDA called SIR (serial infared). There are IRDA drivers for the palmtop but I have not used them. Some laptops (like my thinkpad 560) are supposed to communicate with the palmtop though I haven't tried it yet. Good luck -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 13:34:58 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: SmartMedia Cards to work with 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Subject: Can SmartMedia Cards be used in 200LX? > Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 13:02:09 MST > From: Bob Love > >Are there adapter to get SmartMedia Cards to work with >the Palmtops? Bob There are smartmedia to PCMCIA adaptors. I have a New Media brand adaptor (part number NMT00734). I just tried reading the smart media card from my Olympus digital camera in mypalmtop and the JPG files came right up in the filer (doublespeed 200LX). One of these days I'll get LXPIC figured out so I can see pictures on the palmtop. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:13:59 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: problems with batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mikko, Check if one of the batteries is reversed - use the drawing inside the battery compartment. They DO NOT go in intuitively so you have to be careful. Second possibility is that one of the batteries has truly died and will not charge again (either because it is dead or reversed?) You have not said it, so I assume you did not look, but does ABC/LX tell you that it is charging? If the machine turns off WHEN ON ADAPTER, then probably the adapter is broken, or the circuit in the Palmtop that deals with the adapter is broken. Avi M. Mikko Kangas wrote: > I have HP Omnigo 700LX (almost identical with HP 200LX), and I recently = began having strange problem with > it. When I turn the machine on, it works fine for about 20 seconds, and = then it says "main batt very low" and > shuts down. When I press it on again, is just beeps, sceen flashes and = it shuts down again. If I repeatly > push the on-button, it sometimes work again about 20 seconds and then = shuts down again. > I have changed new batteries several times and problem still exists. > When I connect power adaptor to machine, it keeps saying "main battery = very low" but it doesn't shut down. > > When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, = and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then > raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped. > > Any ideas what could be causing this? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:03 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Converting NOKIA 8210 phone book to Hp200lx database Comments: To: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The first line is the CSV has to contain the field names exactly as they are on your phonebook. You may wish to try to gdbdump on an EMPTY phonebook so your field names come out EXACTLY. Then put this line as the first in the CSV you have from the NOKIA. There is a program written by Andreas Garzotto called DBIO which helps deal with the strange interface of gdbload and gdbdump. Check ftp://ftp.dasoft.com/pub/MISC/dbio.zip Avi M. M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo wrote: > Hi, > > I have been able to download the whole phone book of > my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries > are now stored in a comma delimited text file. I am > trying to convert this file into a database using > gdbload to append it to my already existing phone > database. > I think I have folowed all the steps correctly but I > always get an error from the program stating: > > gbolad(1): can't match field hogar' > > My first field is "hogar" and the second field is > "nombre" > > The text file I am trying to convert looks like this: > > hogar,nombre > 609633499,Josu Movil > > 678678635,Alex Movil > > 900122508,Josea Irigoyen > > etc... > > What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my > Spanish hp200lx? > > By the way I have discovered a very easy method for > downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210 > using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for > uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the > phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges > using infrared. Anybody interested? i > > Thanks, > > Inigo > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:24 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob Christopher wrote: > I wonder, too, why 9v or 12v when the unit runs on 3v worth of > AA batteries. Like I said, I'm no EE. You confuse the circuits to run the PC which feed off the batteries, with the circuits to charge the batteries, which run on nominal 12V. To ponder more on this consider that it takes anywhere from 0.01mA to run the palmtop (nearly idle) to about 175mA, so why is the adapter supplying 750ma? Again, the same reasoning as above. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:16 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob Christopher wrote: > I have the same Stancor AC Adapter you are referring to. The > 200LX User's Guide states a Min voltage of 9.6V and a Max of > 14.4V, nominal voltage of 12V. Although I bought this adapter as > a used, secondary unit, it appears to work fine. I'd hesitate because it is so low esp. on the current. Palmtop needs 750mA, Stancor provides 300mA. > Putting the LX in Setup mode on battery power only you will see: > Source: Battery > Turn the unit off and plug the Stancor AC adapter into the unit: > Source: Adapter Don't even have to turn off machine for that. > Since is being recognized and it is pulling sufficient power to > run the unit, I have no qualms about using it. If I'm not Not necessarily correct conclusion. It may be enough to run the palmtop, but consider that you may need to run palmtop, perhaps a power hungry modem and be on for extended hours - together this may suck up a lot more power than the tiny test you propose. > mistaken, all these adapters are 9Volt+/- 5% or so. If you have > a voltmeter, test the output. I'd be interested to know. Voltage is so-so. Nominal Voltage for Palmtop is 12V, and it can tolerate between 9.6 and 14.4V. Your Stancor is at 9V, which maybe 8 to 10, maybe even more. Second, Palmtop needs 750mA current, and Stancor provides 300mA. So it is clearly below the lower limits, and I'd be cautious about using it, and recommending it. In fact I recommend AGAINST using it. I'd hate to recommend something that will damage someone's palmtop. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:27 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We had lengthy threads on this. Conclusion - no one could make it work :-( ... Could be the SIR vs. IrDA differences? Avi M. Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, > > is anyone of you using IR connections between the palmtop and an > Omnibook 800? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:21 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: HP200LX Screen problem Comments: To: Ed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to the shift, you may notice that you also run a lot slower! What happened is that you lost the driver for the doublespeed. When that happens the cpu runs at factory speed (7.9mHz) and another telltale sign is that the signal to the screen is not adjusted, and it shifts by those 2mm or so that you mention. (the shift varies among machines, even in some cases hardly any shift is noticeable.) So you need to put the speed driver in there. Check the site Mack has www.times2tech.com - good luck. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:10 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: AC Adaptor Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It _might_ work. The HP User's Guide says about AC Adapter: Polarity - negative center is ground, positive is the outer contact (this is unusual!) minimum voltage 9.6V nominal 12V, maximum 14V minimum current 750mA. Your adapter isbarely minimal, which means it will work at FULL all the time, heating up, probably heating up the Palmtop too and eventually it will go bad on you. Either find an HP adapter, or call Thaddeus, they were selling AC adapter replacements for the HP which meet these requirements and work extremely well (I have 2 of them). Going cheap on this is like going to the cheapest doctor you can find for a heart surgery - not smart. Years ago I had a 500mA adapter at 9v from Radio Shack. It always ran HOT. Palmtop was always hot too, the circuit was working hard trying to suck out enough current from the adapter. After a year, one day the adapter simply died with a bright little explosion - melted inside, and destroyed the power circuitry in the palmtop although palmtop kept working on batteries alone. I save $15 on the adapter and paid $250 for the repair - not smart at all. Good luck. Avi M. Tralornik wrote: > I just bought a used AC Adaptor: > > STANCOR Model STA-3590A > Input 120 VAC 60Hz 6W > Output: 9VDC 300mA > Class 2 Transformer > > It was supposed to work for the 200LX (and I assume the 100LX as well), = but my 100LX says 12V on the bottom. The person whom I bought this from > said they had no problems using it with a 200LX, but I am concerned = about messing up my palmtop with this adaptor since it only says 9VDC. > > Should I be able to use this adaptor wih a 100 LX? > > (I should mention the polarity is correct with + on outside and - on = inside). > > Thanks > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony, On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:00:14 +1300, Tony Hutchins wrote: > Daniel, sorry, I got this wrong the PHONE needs to be inside > the quotes. ah, okay. This makes sense. > To run as a POST/LX external you probably want to set the Ir > too: > > wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400" > ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3" Excellent idea! :-) Although it didn't work setting the parameters Port and Baud the way you describe. But if I give an existing www setup name as an argument to wwwset, if works. > OK I am sure it is the standard one. > You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work. What is the latest one? It seems here it indeed goes into the get loop instead of the put loop, because it says "retrieving..." even if I choose put. But I haven' found any newer version of robot.exe than mine: ROBOT EXE 24501 05-11-01 6:52p If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours? Regarding the wwwset thing: Is there any way to restore the original setup after launching robot phone? Something like SET RESTORE = wwwset wwwset irdasms robot "phone %1 %2 %3" wwwset RESTORE (it doesn't work this way, of course, because you cannot assign the output of wwwset to a variable. But maybe you have an idea, since you are the batch annd robot specialist here? I could imagine redirecting the wwwset output into a prepared batch file which then contains "set restore = output" or so - haven't you done something like that for sr.exe in Roboweb? Thanks a lot I hope I can soon come up with a comfortable solution to up- and download phone books together with a piece of maintaining or at least synchronizing software... GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Converting NOKIA 8210 phone book to Hp200lx database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Inigo On Sun, 4 Nov 2001 16:01:35 -0800, "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" wrote: > I have been able to download the whole phone book of > my NOKIA 8210 via infrared using Ir.exe. My entries How do you do that exactly? > What am I doing wrong? Is gdbload compatible with my > Spanish hp200lx? Should be, dince GDB format is a general format, not language-specific. Sorry, no idea. > By the way I have discovered a very easy method for > downloading the whole phone book of the NOKIA 8210 > using IR.exe(No cables needed!!). It may also work for > uploading the whole phone book of the Hp 200lx to the > phone (I am still testing), and sending SMS messeges > using infrared. Anybody interested? i YES! See my other posts regarding phone.scr. I do it that way out of post/lx with an external entry. Once all is set up well, it should be _very_ comfortable. But the way to a proper setup is no easy. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:09 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fw: Re: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends do yourself a favor and buy a regulated one for a few dollars more. If you take an unregulated AC adaptor, this can heat the palmtop up, because the voltage regulation circuit inside the palmtop has to work a lot more than if the voltage comes in already regulated. In the worst case, this heat can damage the the palmtop permanently. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: problems with batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mikko please try to avoid HTML postings to the list. On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:51:48 +0200, Mikko Kangas wrote: > When power cord was connected, I monitored battery voltage with ABC/LX, and it constantly dropped to 1.61 volts, then > raised again to 2.4 volts, and then again dropped. Is this in regular time intervals or does it raise and drop irregular? If the latter is the case, I think it is a loose contact somewhere in the wires from the batteries to the mainboard. Did you drop the 700LX, did you open the case or something? If you have the necessary skills, I would recommend you to open the machine and see if the metal wires which connect the battery springs to the mainboard are loose or maybe it is a cold soldering spot where the battery contacts meet the mainboard. Since you seem to be in Finland, Thomas Rundel might be the right person to send the palmtop to, if you don't get it to work again. http://www.rundel.net Or maybe try first to clean all battery contacts. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:20:26 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:27 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > We had lengthy threads on this. Conclusion - no one could make > it work :-( ... Could be the SIR vs. IrDA differences? Yes, exactly this is the problem. But there is hope, at least for Linux users. The IrDA driver actually contains already all needed code to drive the IR interface in plain SIR (a.k.a. HPSIR) mode, but it doesn't do it, but it uses all that IrDA stuff in addition. So if we would strip all IrDA stuff from the driver, it should work. I'll see if I will make it work some day. These days I'm learning a lot about IrDA from the programmer of the OB800 IrDA driver. I don't think he'll want to modify hsi driver that way, but when I have enough time and IrDA-related experience, maybe I'll do it. As a first relust of all these things I'M learning I'll update my IR transmitter page soon. ;-) Who would be interested in connecting a Linux OB800 to the HPLX? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:20:25 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP200LX Screen problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 11:14:21 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote: > In addition to the shift, you may notice that you also run a > lot slower! What happened is that you lost the driver for the Oh, I think it runs with double speed even without the driver. The problem is only that the "peripheral" devices like screen, serial port etc. cannot handle this double speed by default, so the driver is needed to let them work properly. Or am I wrong here? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:26:56 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow, I once paid $240 for a 40MB Pretec card.It died on me after less than a year's worth of use. I'll never buy Pretec again. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of Al > Kind > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:45 PM > > There is also a Kingston 256MB for $109(after $20 Mfr Rebate) > > www.us.buy.com/retail/computers/product.asp??loc=101&sku=10265781 > > Cheers...AJKind > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:43:12 +1300 Reply-To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:19:13 +1300 (NZDT) 01h15m09s ago ... On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:04 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > You do need the latest ROBOT.EXE for the "put" part to work. > > What is the latest one? > It seems here it indeed goes into the get loop instead of the put loop, > because it says "retrieving..." even if I choose put. > But I haven' found any newer version of robot.exe than mine: > > ROBOT EXE 24501 05-11-01 6:52p > > If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours? Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August 2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :) > > wwwset "Port=-1 Baud=38400" > > ROBOT "phone.scr %1 %2 %3" > > Although it didn't work setting the parameters Port and Baud > the way you describe. But if I give an existing www setup name > as an argument to wwwset, if works. That wwwset above is what I use in my sms_pdu.bat from POST/LX - so it does work here. It doesn't matter what the WWW-ISP was, it only uses the port/baud settings and leaves everything else the same. So, as long as port/baud is controlled - somehow - using setcom.bat, or explicitly as above, you don't really need to restore settings. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:55:50 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:43:12 +1300, Tony Hutchins wrote: > > ROBOT EXE 24501 05-11-01 6:52p > > > > If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours? > > Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August > 2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :) Mine is also from Roboweb (ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip, but its file date is 05-11-01. Version 1.8. ????! So probably another thing is wrong here. > That wwwset above is what I use in my sms_pdu.bat from POST/LX > - so it does work here. It doesn't matter what the WWW-ISP was, > it only uses the port/baud settings and leaves everything else > the same. So, as long as port/baud is controlled - somehow - > using setcom.bat, or explicitly as above, you don't really need > to restore settings. Okay, so I'll try it once more with just these single parameter settings instead of a whole setup. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:03:12 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: HP200LX Screen problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Oh, I think it runs with double speed even without the driver. The > problem is only that the "peripheral" devices like screen, serial port Ý...snip...¨ > Or am I wrong here? You could be right. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:03:16 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > So if we would strip all IrDA stuff from the driver, it should work. If it does, wonderful. > Who would be interested in connecting a Linux OB800 to the HPLX? At least I! Next weekend I am installing Linux on my OB and then will get more serious about installing it on the rest of the computers. (I am tired of the M$ rip-off and their invasions of privacy and all that!) I suspect several of us here will be interested because we have both machines. Many of the OB owners are also eyeing Linux because it is a good way to move forward on this machine without the M$ bloatware. I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection between OB800CT with Win95 and the Palmtop. Here is a summary: 1. Enabled IR in the Setting. It wants to talk over COM1. 2. Loaded IR.COM in a DOS workarea in the Palmtop. 3. Command line input: IR oput c:\xyz.pqr supposed to send the file The notebook makes a sound of recognition, and tells me it sees HP200LX, but also tells me there is interference from other IRs in the vicinity - none that I know of. The Palmtop displays: Opening IrDA for (ultralight) OBEX send Talking to "OB-1"... Ýthis is the name of my OB in the IR setup.¨ sending... .......... sent closing ... At that point the OB makes the noise of closing. After that the Palmtop is locked HARD! requires cold boot. Next experiment: 1. Similar setup. 2. command IR server Notebook recognizes the palmtop. Palmtop displays: Ir Server - open IrDA for interchange (?) talking to "OB-1"..... IrDA connect failed cannot initialize LMP connection Following this the Notebook makes the sound of disconnect and the palmtop locks up hard, requiring cold boot. Hopefully this is somewhat of a start and a help. My Windows 95 is STOCK, right from the CD. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:23:45 +1300 Reply-To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: ROBOWEB 1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (Maybe I forgot to announce this a month ago) Available at: http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb/index.html Same functionality as before, but much faster to start digging. Some additional built-in features, for weather and quotes. Now works over IrDA - thanks to Andreas for a new ROBOT.EXE! Start with README.TXT, and RWEBFAQ.DOC. Previous users need to read RWHIST.DOC. (the version at ftp.dasoft.com.. is the original version " " " www. " " latest " ) - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 23:46:09 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: cc:mail no longer supported Comments: To: support@palmtop.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ulrich Boche wrote: > I saw the following announcement from Lotus: > "As of October 31st, 2001 support for cc:Mail will no longer be available." As an HP200LX owner I don't think I'm missing anything with my cc:Mail permanently burned into ROM. I wonder how this will affect Martin Paul who runs Palmtop.Com and those of us with accounts there? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:54:19 -0500 Reply-To: LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Finding domain name MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a way to extract the domaine name of an ISP just by logging in? I have a mailbox which only provide the POP server but not the SMTP server. Normally this not a problem because I just use the SMTP server of the local ISP. I am going on a trip and I want to try iPass. I have got a list of numbers to dial up at the destination, and I can log in and retrieve my mail. But I have problem sending out, since I am not logged in to my local ISP, the SMTP server denies relaying the messages. If I can get the domain name of the ISP at my destination, I can probably figure out the domain name of the SMTP server, since it is usually in the form of "smtp.domain name". Then I can use the trick that Tony Hutchins mentioned -- SMTP=3DISP in POST.CFG. But I have to find the domain name of the ISP at the destination first. Tech support of my local ISP told me that they only have a set of dial up numbers from iPass and they do not know anything about the ISP's that use these numbers. So I have to find a way of getting the domain name by dialling up and logging in to the ISP of my destination. Any idea welcome. TIA. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 19:32:58 -0800 Reply-To: Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Subject: Record Not Found in Appt Every Morning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Time to ask for help. My 200LX has started having problems opening APPT.ADB every morning. If I create a new appointment database and merge the old into the new, it = works fine until the next morning. I can even make the "Record Not Found" message appear by advancing the system date by one day and re-opening the APPT application. If I turn the date back 1 day, the problem goes away. DBCHECK can find no problems with APPT.ADB. Anyone got some idea of what is broken here? ...Gary ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:17:44 -0800 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Small TSR that logs battery voltage readable? Comments: To: Bob Christopher , Norbert_Giese@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, The program with source code may be downloaded from: http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#vwbattlog Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Alfred Lee To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:10 PM Subject: Re: Small TSR that logs battery voltage readable? >Hi Norbert, > >I have a program to prints battlog.log generated by Battlog (from SUPER) >in ASCII text. I'll be glad to send you the program if you are interested. > >Best Regards, >Alfred > >-----Original Message----- >From: Norbert Giese >To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu >Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:20 PM >Subject: Small TSR that logs battery voltage readable? > > >>Hello, >> >>does someone know of a 'small' TSR that frequently logs the battery >>voltage with time stamps to a file for further processing? I studied >>several voltage monitoring packages on S.U.P.E.R., but to my knowledge >>they either only display it, or they record it in binary format, which >>makes it more difficult for me to decode. >> >>Any hint? >> >>Thanks >>Norbert >> >>-- >>Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen >> >>** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:29:12 -0800 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Record Not Found in Appt Every Morning MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Gary, I haven't encountered the problem as you described. However, I have seen many strange behaviours when I have close to ten daily repeating appointments and after deleting them daily for more than several weeks. Problem goes away after I reset the repeat by setting a new start date. Hope it helps. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Gary Jacek To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: Record Not Found in Appt Every Morning Time to ask for help. My 200LX has started having problems opening APPT.ADB every morning. If I create a new appointment database and merge the old into the new, it works fine until the next morning. I can even make the "Record Not Found" message appear by advancing the system date by one day and re-opening the APPT application. If I turn the date back 1 day, the problem goes away. DBCHECK can find no problems with APPT.ADB. Anyone got some idea of what is broken here? ...Gary ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, First, please be aware that if you want to use phone.scr to up/download your phone book to/from the cellular phone with robot.exe, you need the latest robot exe. There is a little confusion about this, which I could fortunately clear up together with Tony: There are two versions of robot.exe which claim to be version 1.8. One has a file date 05-11-01, this is the older one, which will NOT work with phone.scr, at least not if you want to PUT your phone book. GET works. The other version is dated 08-12-01 and this is the one to use with phone.scr. The newest version is available at http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb ATTENTION: The version on D&A's ftp server is NOT this new version (ftp.dasoft.com/pub/www/roboweb.zip)! Avi, how about removing old software versions? ;-) I also saw an old MM/LX version some time ago, I think it was in the PE directory of your ftp server. Secondly: My procedure to synchronize phone books works already, thanks to Tony, and now I want to refine it ia bit. Tony, Stefan, other experts: I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when PUTting my phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer "OK" because the number which is to be transferred doesn't match some rules. Do you know these rules? 1. Seems that the phone requires a "+" at the beginning fo each number. Strange is only, that if you GET the phone book, there are no "+"s. 2. There seem to be limitations in the string length (of name and number). Do you know exactly how long they are allowed to be? The same limitations for all phones? 3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts etc.? 4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and numbers are stored in this format: +NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname But in the phone the entries appear as Firstname, Lastname What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names? Any advice appreciated! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 10:11:20 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: T39m phone book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi T39m users, please connect a terminal emulation to your T39m (either WWW/LX in dumb terminal mode or a laptop via IrDA) and issue the commands at+cpbs="me" at+cpbr=1,510 to the phone. The terminal should now display all phone book entries. Here it stops after the 26th - 30th entry (variable), although there are 410 entries in the phone book (just sent with phone.scr and verified that they are really in the phone book). Also if I "get" the phone book with phone.scr, only abt 30 entries are transferred. What's up here? May this be a bug in the phone firmware? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:40:00 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:59:08 +1300 (NZDT) 02h58m14s ago ... On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > The newest version is available at > http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb I'm pretty sure a link to this roboweb site does appear on the www.dasoft front page, and also in the "announcements" and was also mentioned in a recent D&A newsletter. > I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when > PUTting my phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer > "OK" because the number which is to be transferred doesn't > match some rules. Do you know these rules? No, but was the text part long? Just when putting to the ME? Maybe it's best to write to the "SM" only then make the T39 itself transfer the SIM phonebook to the ME - a cunning trick > 1. Seems that the phone requires a "+" at the beginning fo > each number. Strange is only, that if you GET the phone > book, there are no "+"s. Should be OK with or wothout the "+". Maybe the T39 uses a new syntax for the "Write Phone Book Entry" command? This is the phone.scr line - send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r you could try without any $n2 send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",,"$it"\r > 3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts > etc.? Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character set)!!! > 4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and > numbers are stored in this format: > +NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname > > But in the phone the entries appear as > Firstname, Lastname > > What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names? No, phone,scr would sent the stuff after the "|" as one unit. Daniel I wish you all the best in this. Oh! I just looked up the PBW on page 108 of that T39 AT command list and they explicitly say that for ME writing the T39 *interprets* the text as lastname,firstname. So, we have an explanation for that one :) For SM writing it assumes the opposite. Don't ask me why! There might be something tricky about the "+" and the type - that's why I suggest leaving out that $n2 above - this forces the phone to use its default. BTW its defaults are different to the old days in fact, yes there is the problem I think. But, too complicated for me to explain. They have a new type of 161 - we only used 129 and 145 in the script. BTW I have no clue about the problem you noticed in your next message. Maybe we need a PHONET39.SCR, carefully crafted with the AT .PDF in full view :) - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:36:09 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Tony > > On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:43:12 +1300, Tony Hutchins = wrote: > > > > ROBOT EXE 24501 05-11-01 6:52p > > > > > > If this is not the latest, could you please send me yours? > > > > Mine is the same as in ROBOWEB.ZIP - it is dated around August > > 2001 - version 1.8. I can't send it now, I'm on the run :) > > Mine is also from Roboweb (ftp.dasoft.com/pub/WWW/roboweb.zip, > but its file date is 05-11-01. Version 1.8. ????! Upload date is 5/11. Tony is quoting the date he got it onto his machine. > So probably another thing is wrong here. Probably not. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:09:36 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:59:55 +1300 (NZDT) 23m46s ago ... On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 02:36:09 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote: > Upload date is 5/11. Tony is quoting the date he got it onto > his machine. True :) Very true :) But it was probably less than a day old when I got it in my machine - only a small change from the 5/11 version 1.8, so is still 1.8. My fault really Avi, I should have mentioned it way back. Normally too small a change (in fact it restored an original ROBOT command) for a new release, but that change turns out to be fairly specific to the phone.scr. I could have suggested a small change to the script, but like to let the original stand, if possible :) Still, at least it is available with roboweb.zip. And, sometimes it is nice to keep the odd old version on board. But, I guess the robot.zip should now be updated on the ftp. Caio, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:02:12 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Al and list, (BCC goes to Martin Diehl, the OB800 Linux IrDA driver programmer) Al, I hope you don't mind that I send your message quoted to the list. But you say yourself, that this topic could be of interest for some people. On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:42:43 +0100, mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu wrote: > IR worked OK on W3.11 (using LapLink) on my OB4000, but when I went to > W95 it no longer worked. It seems to me it may have worked at one time > with my IBM760(W95), but I haven't had luck recently(W98). As I said, > there are many OB800/200LX users, and I'm sure a solution would > generate alot of interest...but probably more for W95/98 than LINUX? Okay, What you say about W3.1 and W95 makes clear: The hardware itself should be compatible to the LX in all Laptops and IrDA dongles, since they follow the IrDA standard only on the _physical_ layer, and IrDA's physical layer is SIR a.k.a. HPSIR. And HPSIR is the standard the palmtop uses. But IrDA defines a lot of stuff around the actual physical way of data transmission. Keywords are IrCOMM, IrLPT, IrLAP, IrLMP and so on. I won't go into detail here. See http://www.irda.org/standards/standards.asp And all real IrDA-compliant drivers have this stuff built-in, which is necessary to talk to cellular phones (we see that in the IrDA implemementation Andreas has managed for WWW/LX. He says it was a hard piece of work (I now understand what he means. ;-) ), to Palms, to IrDA modems, to IrDA LAN devices etc. On my Homepage (IR-Device page) there is a description how to disable all this IrDA stuff in Windows98, found by Juan Belmonte, which enables you to use the plain HPSIR in Windows 98. At least I hope so. I don't know if this works at all on an Omnibook 800. But it is definitely worth a try. ALthough if it works it would imply that Windows 95 should work okay by default with the LX.... hm, I'm a little bit confused. Could anyone please try it? Go onto my IR device page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev, scroll down into the last section, click on "this document" in the very last paragraph, then scroll down to the part "Installing with Windows 98" (all above that is only important for Nokia Datasuite users). Once all this IrDA stuff is disabled, every software _may_ be able to use the IrDA (now plain SIR) interface as a COM port to connect to the palmtop. I don't know. But this could be the solution. Martin Diehl and I are working on a solution for Linux. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:02:19 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: sed regular expression wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I know there are some sed experts out there, so please could you guve me the right sed command line to do the following: I want to convert all my existing mindmaps created with MM/LX with the Indent=| option set to MM/LX format with option Indent= (i.e. PIM/PE compatible format.) i.e. the sed should do the following: Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then follows an uncertain number of spaces. i.e. this here (not a valid MM file, only examplary) This is | to be processed |by sed to remove all | the | lines please should end up in This is to be processed by sed to remove all the | lines please Thanks a lot daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:11:12 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > 2. There seem to be limitations in the string length (of name and > number). Do you know exactly how long they are allowed to be? The same > limitations for all phones? This is sim card dependent and also cellular sw dependent. The latest nokia 6210 sw doesn't work using the same script as for previous versions. I ended up with a choice either stay with an old 6210 software and be compatible with my 8110, etc cellulars or adjust the script for the latest 6210 software. > 3. Maybe issues with special characters, such as Umlauts etc.? Using nokia 8110 (with datacard), 6210 Umlauts are OK. > 4. In my file which phone.scr transfers to the phone, the names and > numbers are stored in this format: > +NUMBER|Lastname, Firstname > > But in the phone the entries appear as > Firstname, Lastname > > What is the reason? Is phone.scr involved in reordering names? You need to adjust the table, which might change with the sw version of the phone; see above. I contacted Nokia for docs. Answer: No docs are available. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:57:45 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: SmartMedia Cards to work with 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew King wrote: > There are smartmedia to PCMCIA adaptors. I have a New Media > brand adaptor (part number NMT00734). I even saw a "Multi Card Adapter 4 in 1" standard PCMCIA card which is capable of -smart media card -multi media card -secure digital card -sony memory stick card unfortunately only CF is missing :-( Get more information from: http://www.carry.com.tw/products/Adapters/sdmca.htm They also have a type II CF card adapter: http://www.carry.com.tw/products/Adapters/cfcaii.htm > One of these days I'll get LXPIC figured out so I can see > pictures on the palmtop. Just put LXPIC onto your path, then go to the JPG directory and simply say LXPIC *.JPG Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:57:44 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: boblintw here? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tomas Moberg wrote: > I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her! > > > > is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with > > "boblintw@..."? Daniel, myself, and now you. Looks to be palmtop related. Thanks to Jacques Belin for the Sircam info. I wrote to "boblintw" and informed him/her about the infection. The email didn't bounce back, but triggered just another Sircam email. Hope it helped. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 20:59:06 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: sed regular expression wanted In-Reply-To: ; from daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE on Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:02:19PM +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Nov 06, 2001 at 01:02:19PM +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then > follows an uncertain number of spaces. Dunno about the DOS version, but for good ol' Unix sed: s/¬\| *// - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 06:42:50 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: sed regular expression wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then > > follows an uncertain number of spaces. > > Dunno about the DOS version, but for good ol' Unix sed: > > s/¬\| *// I'll confirm that this works for DOS as well, using the SED from SUPER. If your text is in "a.txt", then the command line: sed "s/¬\| *//" a.txt or type a.txt | sed "s/¬\| *//" will format the output the way you want. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:45:30 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: cheap power adapter Comments: To: Tralornik@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had one of the Stancor power adapters and used it for several years with no ill effects. This may be because I am not a power user, most of the times my palmtop is unplugged and I don't use a modem or network card that would require more power. I used to plug the palmtop in overnight once a week to charge the batteries. I would have to agree with those who caution against cutting corners on the power supply but it's not necessarily fatal (or perhaps I'm just lucky). Now I have gone to the other extreme, I am using the F1044A adaptor from my Omnibook 425. It's rated at 12 volts at 2.5 amps. It even says "for use with HP computer products only" I actually have an extra F1044A omnibook adaptor which I would part with for $10 plus postage. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:54:50 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: FS: 2 MB 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though) Perfect screen and hinges. Nylon HP case. Manuals, connectivity kit ( just the diskettes plus book, no cable) ( if required, adds to shipping costs. Asking $200. Shipping in EU about $15. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:06:36 -0800 Reply-To: Wayne Thompson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Wayne Thompson Subject: Re: sed regular expression wanted Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sed -e 's/¬\|Ý ¨*//' file_to_be_processed -Wayne Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > Hi friends, > > I know there are some sed experts out there, so please could you guve > me the right sed command line to do the following: > > I want to convert all my existing mindmaps created with MM/LX with the > Indent=| option set to MM/LX format with option Indent= > (i.e. PIM/PE compatible format.) > > i.e. the sed should do the following: > > Delete every first part of a line, if it begins with a "|" and then > follows an uncertain number of spaces. > i.e. this here (not a valid MM file, only examplary) > > This is > | to be processed > |by sed > to remove all > | the | lines > please > > should end up in > > This is > to be processed > by sed > to remove all > the | lines > please > > Thanks a lot > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:11:43 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: palmtop.net broken In-Reply-To: <3BE7FC7C.AFA0B920@pacbell.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got the following: FORBIDDEN You do not have permission to access the document you are attempting to access. This could be a result of too much bandwidth being used by your connection, i.e., if you are attempting to download a large number of files. If this is the case, please e-mail the webmaster to schedule a time for you to do so. Otherwise, please try again later. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:15:38 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Latin dictionary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those smartasses always quoting Latin phrases. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:18:58 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: palmtop.net broken In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Nov 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > I got the following: > > FORBIDDEN > You do not have permission to access the document you are attempting > to access. I didn't, so you might want to e-mail David or Ian... Perhaps they run a bandwidth module for Apache that's run amok, or you really have been hogging the bandwidth ;-) bye, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:36:24 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: FOR SALE BEST OFFERS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for offers on the following: Must sell ASAP 1 200LX 2mb with used once in original packaging with everything. 1 used 95 LX broken screen 2 sparcom docking stations for 95lx 1 16mb Olympus smart media cards 2 32mb Olympus smart media cards 1 4 mb Kingmax ata flash card 2 10 mb Intell EXCA flash card series 2 several 24 baud PCMCIA modems new 1 w/o packaging I'm in NYC get back if interersted Neil Sheppard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:38:52 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Finding domain name In-Reply-To: <200111060254.fA62sIG27162@mail.th.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Nov 2001, LEONG Ka Tai wrote: > Is there a way to extract the domaine name of an ISP just by > logging in? Depending on your setup, it might be possible. The IP address you are assigned by the ISP usually translates into a hostname within the ISP's domain. Using a tool such as "nslookup" you can ask a DNS server for your IP address' hostname and extract the domain from that. It depends on your setup, which TCP/IP stack you use, but it should be possible, and it could be automated through a batch file. bye, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 12:34:45 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: FOR SALE BEST OFFERS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry typo 2400 baud modems at least on w/ fax also I am looking for offers on the following: Must sell ASAP 1 200LX 2mb with used once in original packaging with everything. 1 used 95 LX broken screen 2 sparcom docking stations for 95lx 1 16mb Olympus smart media cards 2 32mb Olympus smart media cards 1 4 mb Kingmax ata flash card 2 10 mb Intell EXCA flash card series 2 several 2400 baud PCMCIA modems new 1 w/o packaging I'm in NYC get back if interersted Neil Sheppard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 17:55:53 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Latin dictionary Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the lead. has anyone tried this on the LX? it looks like the minword one is the more practical one for most 200LX implementations. I think you can't get 600K free unless you have very few drivers loaded. > -----Original Message----- > From: Feldman, Robert Ýmailto:Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com¨ > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 11:49 AM > To: 'Ed Padin' > Subject: RE: Latin dictionary > > > You might try http://users.erols.com/whitaker/wordsdos.htm > > You can also get a plaintext word list from the same site at > http://users.erols.com/whitaker/words.htm > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:28:12 -0800 Reply-To: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 and ir Comments: To: leewm@sgp.hp.com In-Reply-To: <200111050849.QAA26728@lwmlinux.sgp.hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Currently I have been able to download the whole phone book and then saving it to a text file. I am trying to get this file transformed into a Phone database file, but I have not yet managed it. It is quite easy to download the phone book, although it may look complicated the first time. You will need two programs: IR.exe (24.323 Kbytes) from D&ASOFT and a program called Concopy.exe (2.100 Kbytes). You can download Concopy at Simtel and IR.exe from D&ASoft's web site. It is easier if you copy both programs to the same folder. IR.exe enables the IrDa communication and Concopy redirects the data that is sent to the screen to a text file. This simply means that everything you see on the screen wil be saved to a file. First: Set the phone and the Hp 200lx with both IR ports facing each other and enable IR in the Nokia. Second: *Start concopy and IR by typing: concopy c:\tel.txt ir server 9600 *When IR loads type: AT+CPBR=1,150 *(Upper case please!!) This AT command will read all phone book entries. Third: Exit IR, then type: exit * This last command will end Concopy. Fourth: You will have a file called tel.txt which contains a list with all of your phones entries!!! Fifth: Import the file to Lotus 123 and erase all unnecessary stuff. Leave only phone numbers and names. I suppose all this could be automated with a batch file and a macro. Sixth: Append this entries into your Hp 200lx's phone database. I haven't been able to do it yet ;) O.K. it may look terribly complicated, but it isn't. Cheers, Inigo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:31:55 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: sound cards and modules best offers accepted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FCFA22FD82B533610B8420D7" --------------FCFA22FD82B533610B8420D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 Creation Studio by Emu. complete desktop music system Ultra high end audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback, AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64 "Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging........... Originally cost $800. Best offer! ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ 1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" & "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz // Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3'' Retail was $300 Best Offer! ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ 6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info available if serious only. Best offer! Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you. All the best Neil Sheppard --------------FCFA22FD82B533610B8420D7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 Creation Studio by Emu.  complete desktop music system Ultra high end audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback, AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64 "Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging........... Originally cost $800. Best offer!
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1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" & "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz // Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3''  Retail was $300 Best Offer!
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6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info available if serious only. Best offer!

Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.
All the best Neil Sheppard --------------FCFA22FD82B533610B8420D7-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:37:30 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: For sale and purchasing method MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D4697E320F21DE4D6B0CC4A5" --------------D4697E320F21DE4D6B0CC4A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION - 1 Phillips "Velo" Palmtop Computer with docking station and accessories. Very slightly used in excellent condition. Retailed for over $700 with docking station. Windows CE compatible. In original packaging. 2 PC to TV modules: Lets you view computer or laptop on TV or large screen. 1 has remote control. Both brand new in the box retail price was $200 & $250 for the remote unit 1 Ricoh RDC 300 Digital camera. Perfect condition . Very compact easy to use. Built in led monitor or lens viewing. Also has built in memory, shoots around 30-40 shots in hi res. More pix in low res. Works without cards or any outside memory device. Downloads to PC easily. Also has video thru playback. You can view shots on TV and tape right to VHS. Solid every day digital camera. Fits in your shirt pocket retail $550. 8 approximately assorted 2400-3600 baud fax/modem cards. (56k baud with upgrade software) Various brands/specs some new, some slightly used some in sealed packaging. Offer on one, or take all. If interested I can get detailed information. 1 Logitech "Fotoman" digital PC camera w/software and manual. Slightly used works in Black and White. May work in color with later drivers. 1 "Epson Photo PC" digital camera. Used in perfect condition comes with cable and manual. 1 "Practical Peripheral" PM 144MT II 2400 Baud External fax modem. excellent condition. Best Offer accepted on all above product If you would like me to put you on my list for the "new product" which comes in every now and then please let me know. You must be ready to commit once you are notified as this product goes in an instant. If that is not how you would like to work then this is not for you. If you would like to save money on the refurbished, discontinued, overstock, end of life, and "open box" product, all with MFR warranty send an email. Describe what you are looking for. Give me the specs you would like - as as the specs you could live without if need be. Also give me a target price. Example: Between $600-$750 The more flexible your request - the better chance of locating the item you want and saving you the greatest amount of money. If you need more information on anything I will gladly provide it. I have been in the business for many years and sold to some of the top Internet wholesalers, retail stores and both to businesses and individuals. I can provide references for all!! Available now: Dozens of laptop and desktop computers coming off lease. Various brands and specs. Available on ongoing basis: Refurbished, discontinued, all in original packaging. Everything comes with MFR warranties. This is always available to me. Available NEW PRODUCT from time to time. "Brand new systems" digital cameras, and camcorders etc. at tremendous savings! I look forward to the best savings for you. Neil Sheppard --------------D4697E320F21DE4D6B0CC4A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QTY ITEM DESCRIPTION -
1 Phillips "Velo" Palmtop Computer with docking station and accessories. Very slightly used in excellent condition. Retailed for over $700 with docking station. Windows CE compatible. In original packaging. 
2 PC to TV modules: Lets you view computer or laptop on TV or large screen. 1 has remote control. Both brand new in the box retail price was $200 & $250 for the remote unit
1 Ricoh RDC 300 Digital camera. Perfect condition . Very compact easy to use. Built in led monitor or lens viewing. Also has built in memory, shoots around 30-40 shots in hi res. More pix in low res. Works without cards or any outside memory device. Downloads to PC easily. Also has video thru playback. You can view shots on TV and tape right to VHS. Solid every day digital camera. Fits in your shirt pocket retail $550.
8 approximately assorted 2400-3600 baud fax/modem cards. (56k baud with upgrade software)  Various brands/specs some new, some slightly used some in sealed packaging. Offer on one, or take all. If interested I can get detailed information.
1 Logitech "Fotoman" digital PC camera w/software and manual.  Slightly used works in Black and White. May work in color with later drivers.
1 "Epson Photo PC" digital camera. Used in perfect condition comes with cable and manual.
1 "Practical Peripheral" PM 144MT II 2400 Baud External fax modem. excellent condition.

Best Offer accepted on all above product

If you would like me to put you on my list for the "new product" which comes in every now and then please let me know. You must be ready to commit once you are notified as this product goes in an instant. If that is not how you would like to work then this is not for you. If you would like to save money on the refurbished, discontinued, overstock, end of life, and "open box" product, all with MFR warranty send an email. Describe what you are looking for. Give me the specs you would like - as   as the specs you could live without if need be. Also give me a target price. Example: Between $600-$750 The more flexible your request - the better chance of locating the item you want and saving you the greatest amount of money. If you need more information on anything I will gladly provide it. I have been in the business for many years and sold to some of the top Internet wholesalers, retail stores and both to businesses and individuals. I can provide references for all!!

Available now: Dozens of laptop and desktop computers coming off lease. Various brands and specs.
Available on ongoing basis:  Refurbished, discontinued, all in original packaging. Everything comes with MFR warranties. This is always available to me.
Available NEW PRODUCT from time to time. "Brand new systems" digital cameras, and camcorders etc. at tremendous savings!

I look forward to the best savings for you. Neil Sheppard
  --------------D4697E320F21DE4D6B0CC4A5-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:57:12 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: sound cards and modules best offers accepted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C76F3C01B8C0F9CA6D1D0C8A" --------------C76F3C01B8C0F9CA6D1D0C8A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 Creation Studio by Emu. complete desktop music system Ultra high end audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback, AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64 "Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging........... Originally cost $800. 1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" & "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz // Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3'' Retail was $300 6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info available if serious only. Best offer accepted on all items! Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you. All the best Neil Sheppard --------------C76F3C01B8C0F9CA6D1D0C8A Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1 Creation Studio by Emu.  complete desktop music system Ultra high end audio card with memory and software bundle, "Creative Labs Sound Blaster"....line in - line out and mic for direct record and playback, AWE 64 gold with 8mb ram...64 bit sound card unbelievable realistic sound, "Sonic Sound Forge XP"...Professional award winning digital audio/sample editor create cut & paste .wav files."Vienna Sound Font Studio"...Professional sound editor can download sounds to Awe 64 "Jammer Hit Session"...create instruments and sounds based on your own chords and styles "Cakewalk Express SE"...Midi Sequencer 256 midi tracks, record & play digital to hard drive sync midi with digital) Too much more to list. There is nothing that you can't do with this interactive full featured sound card & audio software package. It will turn your PC into a real live recording studio. You won't believe the extent of the magic in one box. Brand new in sealed packaging........... Originally cost $800.

1 Digispeech "Portable Sound Plus" 16 bit sound wave and midi sound module,Includes Lotus - Sound software, does text to speech, "DOSTALK" & "DOSREADER"applications Built in speaker // Sampling 4 to 44khz // Complete parallel port sound solution for Windows 3.1 or greater Pass thru printer port/ audio in and out jacks and mic / under 9 oz. size 7'' x 3''  Retail was $300

6 Media Vision "AudioPort" sound modules Smaller version of Portable sound Plus (above) many similar features. Very small parallel port sound card with software retail was $175 each is in sealed packaging. More info available if serious only.

Best offer accepted on all items!

Contact me for anything from computer systems and peripherals to digital cameras and camcorders. Send specs and target price and I will save you a good deal of money. The more flexible you are the more I can save you.
All the best Neil Sheppard --------------C76F3C01B8C0F9CA6D1D0C8A-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 02:47:17 -0500 Reply-To: LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: Finding domain name MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > Depending on your setup, it might be possible. The IP address you are > assigned by the ISP usually translates into a hostname within the ISP's > domain. Using a tool such as "nslookup" you can ask a DNS server for = your > IP address' hostname and extract the domain from that. It depends on = your > setup, which TCP/IP stack you use, but it should be possible, and it = could > be automated through a batch file. Thank you for your prompt response. You are a bit over my head. :) I do not know anything about TCP/IP stacks. I am using the WWW/LX suite. Is it possible to use "nslookup" with WWW/LX? Where can I find "nslookup" and how to set up the batch file? You have to hold my hand on this. Actually, I have solved the problem. I sent a message from one mailbox to the other via the destination ISP. By careful reading of the internet headers, I found out the domain name. I edited POST.CFG and now I can send messages through the smtp server of the destination ISP. But it is a clumsy method, and probably will not work every time (I am lucky this time because all the server domain names include the country codes). So I am very interested in learning about "nslookup". Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 11:23:27 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Re: Fw: Re: AC Adaptor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to add that for those of you running the HP95LX the polarity of the DC connector is IRRELEVANT! The 95 incorporates a diode bridge on the external power input and that fact alone make the 95 extremely versatile when running from an external supply. The 100/200 used a couple of the bridge diodes for charging or something (do not have access to a schematic so can't tell for sure) which necessitated using an AC adaptor who's palm connection has the correct polarity. Remember to KEEP SMILING :-) Nigel R in sunny South Afirca ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:49:55 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Subject: Re Screen Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The screen shift problem was indeed the spd31 driver. I've loaded it now and the problem is resolved. Thanks to all. Ed ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:49:52 +0100 Reply-To: Uzi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uzi Subject: Simcity classic In-Reply-To: <000d01c16787$9c1ee1c0$9a0110ac@hypn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All! I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ . I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale) Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding display drivers) Any ideas? Thanks, Zoltan -------------------------------------------------- http://www.mailbox.hu - Mert levelezni kell... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 16:40:30 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Simcity classic In-Reply-To: <20011107144952.7082.qmail@web2.mailbox.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Uzi wrote: > I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free > at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ . > I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale) From the readme: VIDEO MODES: ----------- SimCity Classic can run in several video modes: Hercules Monochrome EGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x350 2 Color) VGA/MCGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x480 2 Color) EGA Hi-Res Color (640x350 16 Color) VGA/MCGA Lo-Res Color (320x200 256 Color) VGA Hi-Res Color (640x480 16 Color) So that does indeed rule out CGA... > Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding display > drivers) "Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original game, with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in 1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA (although I have never tried it on the LX). I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free... bye, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:10:56 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've never seen any problem with list members selling something of interest on this list. And even when that guy (Scott?) was selling cards regularly I was all for it. It's something we all use and the notices were small. But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam. They guy seems to be running a store on our list. If this is a one time thing I see no problem with it. But he seems to indicate that he's going to have a steady supply of every kind of electronic device. Maybe I'm out of line here. I'm not sure. But I'm pretty concerned. This took up about 1/4 of the unusually large digest I received overnight. Anybody else have thoughts about this? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 09:10:54 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_ from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP palmtops. -----Original Message----- From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) I've never seen any problem with list members selling something of interest on this list. But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam. They guy seems to be running a store on our list. Anybody else have thoughts about this? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 10:29:23 -0600 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Simcity classic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > Yes, that is right. The original version did run on CGA, and I have run > it on the LX in the distant past. I MAY still have a copy. It was not > all that much fun to run without a mouse, it was hard to move the cursor > around all the time with the arrow keys; that gets old fast and > everything is done by clicking. Bryan > > > Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > >> >> "Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original game, >> with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in >> 1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite >> good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA (although I >> have never tried it on the LX). >> >> I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the >> original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free... >> >> >> bye, >> >> Laust > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 13:52:46 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: Reply to your alarm Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You know to me there seems to be something wrong with a person who always finds time for tiniest little issues to pick at. And rather than getting to the root of them - he whines to everyone but the person who seems to be at the cause. Like you In this case...... It's such a big deal but you can't even say what bothers you! Instead you put out feelers like "I may be out of line etc," or "Maybe I'm wrong but..." You're not sure what the problem is, but if you can find a few others who are as petty as you maybe you can stick pins in someone because they have something that seems to be working just a little bit, and God forbid people might like it. Oh what pain!! How that must sting!! I had a neighbor who moved into my building right into the next apartment. On the very first day he complained to the super that my son's bicycle was out in the hall! He could have done the gentlemanly thing by knocking on my door - introducing himself, and telling me his legitimate problem you see..only his problem wasn't legitimate. The bike certainly didn't hurt the decor....there was none! and there was no way that it was in his way or blocking anything!! I had kept a bike in the same place (outside MY DOOR) for 22 years.... Now for the first time it became a problem! My next door neighbor had to go down to the super who had to come up so the original message could be delivered by someone else.... to validate it..... Just as you must! I became a list member recently. With a computer / electronics sales background I saw I might be able to help some of the users with product I have or have access to. So I sent a list out. I usually sell only in "large quantity" but I thought why not let a few people in on a good deal if they need something. Rather than disturbing folks I suggested that those who are interested let me know if they would like me to keep them on my product list. In that way I wouldn't send it out to anyone who was not interested. I had a good response and feel as though I am helping people save a good deal of money. Then I see your message, and that this somehow has become a problem for you. I suggest that you have issues and should run ...don't walk, to someone who can help you with these. Try to understand that life goes on around you. You should find something you enjoy doing and stick with it. If you hear laughter don't think people are laughing at you or making fun. Just do what you do and take pleasure in that. No one will bother you but if they do just sit down and write a letter telling them to in the most polite way to make them understand how trivial and foolish they really are. All the best of luck Neil Sheppard Barry wrote: > I've haven't seen any problem with list members selling something > of interest on this list. And even when that guy (Scott?) was > selling cards regularly I was all for it. It's something we all > use and the notices were small. > > But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam. They > guy seems to be running a store on our list. If this is a one > time thing I see no problem with it. But he seems to indicate > that he's going to have a steady supply of every kind of > electronic device. > > Maybe I'm out of line here. I'm not sure. But I'm pretty > concerned. This took up about 1/4 of the unusually large digest > I received overnight. > > Anybody else have thoughts about this? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:00:29 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why doesn't someone Neil Sheppard come on we're all big boys. If I am offending someone kindly let me know not the whole world first. Does anybody agree with this? Neil Sheppard "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_ > from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP > palmtops. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) > > I've never seen any problem with list members selling something > of interest on this list. > > But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam. They > guy seems to be running a store on our list. > > Anybody else have thoughts about this? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 11:00:48 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: 440MB PC Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, Well, it looks like the card that I have is BAD. So far all attempts on several different types of machines (200lx, Win98, NT,) have all been to no avail. Card is not recognized by anything I have been able to put it into including a Compaq photo kiosk at Kinko's! I will be taking the seller up on his offer of a refund. Avi, I would like to thank you publicly for the help you gave me in trying to format the bad 440MB Sandisk PC card. It's almost worth the trouble to finally meet another denizen on the HPLX list! :-) Chris (rclott@ro.com), Yves (leurquin@bigfoot.com), Pal Al ( hobchi@hotmail.com) and all of the list. Thanks for your help. It's a pleasure to know so many helpful people. Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:04:46 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: Re: typo revised Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why doesn't someone tell Neil Sheppard if he is off the mark or otherwise inappropriate. Come-on we're all big boys! If I am offending anyone kindly let me know.. Not the whole world first. Does anybody agree with this? Neil Sheppard "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > I agree. His ads should be something you can opt-in to receive _separately_ > from the list, since they don't seem to have much to do with the HP > palmtops. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 10:11 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) > > I've never seen any problem with list members selling something > of interest on this list. > > But the ads from Niel Shephard seem to be just plain spam. They > guy seems to be running a store on our list. > > Anybody else have thoughts about this? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 14:53:37 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: 440M :-< Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Joe and I met for lunch and general get-to-know-you then got down to business: Trying to beat that 440MB down into service. Well, :-( Nogo. No matter what we did, it told us no way... Yuck. Unless the "hail of formatting" did something to the drive to make it forget its mission in life, it is possible that the drive is simply, summarily, and unfortunately, just DEAD! The best part was meeting Joe! I highly recommend that if you have time and interest and you are near the LAX to give him a shout and meet him. This is what I call "class". You may not agree with him on everything (I don't) but he is a great guy to disagree with, really fun. Joe, when you stop blushing, just let me tell you thank you again for the face-to-face, I enjoyed meeting you very much. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: Neil Sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Neil Sheppard Subject: 20 mb HP flashdisk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just located my HP 200LX which I was looking for and I found it has a Hewlett Packard 20 mb flashdisk memory card in it. Does anyone know what the flashdisk is worth by itself. If you don't have a specific price, it would be just as helpful to get a range of what might be considered a fair asking price. Thank you. Neil Sheppard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:32:30 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: phone book -> mobile phone synch tool - phone.scr problems! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 21:04:04 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: Daniel > Thanks a lot > I hope I can soon come up with a comfortable solution to up- and > download phone books together with a piece of maintaining or at least > synchronizing software... Looking forward to whatever utility you make :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:36:03 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Neil Sheppard HPLX-L store (WAS: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) In-Reply-To: <3BE985CE.B0CBD483@mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Why doesn't someone tell Neil Sheppard if he is off the mark or > otherwise inappropriate. Come-on we're all big boys! I don't have a problem with it at all. Not everything he's selling is HP200LX specific stuff but he is selling older/refurb hardware and I think many people on the list would find that stuff interesting. He's posted a few ads but it's not like he's doing it every day. I would hate to discourage vendors participating in the list as long as they do it constructively. I would have more trust for a vendor that actively participated on the list then the typical Ebay 'd00d'. Neil, one thing I would suggest is to keep the messages formatted in plain text and as terse as possible. BTW: Whatever happened to that 'Scott' dude? I guess he finally ran out of flash cards. ABTW: Yooz guys that get the list in digest form should take time to edit the subject header. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:13:50 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: 1GB type I CompactFlash announced ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sundisk just anounced a new 1GB CF card. =46rom the press release : "The 1GB SanDisk CompactFlash card is expected to be available at retail in Q1 2002. The card is expected to sell for under $800." ( http://www.sandisk.com/pressrelease/011105_bigcf.htm ) =20 Well two questions : =20 - do it will work on the palmtop ? - How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we could never fill a 100 MB hard disk ) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 15:54:12 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Announcement: GUI Themes for X-Finder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Have you ever wanted your palmtop to have the look and feel of your favorite desktop GUI? Now you can, with X-Finder and your choice of 14 different OS themes now available for download now at: http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ Choose from: Amiga Workbench 3.x Aqua (MacOS X) BeOS CDE (Common Desktop Environment) Gnome IRIX KDE (K Desktop Environment) 2.x/3.x MacOS 8.x/9.x NeXT (NextStep) OLWM (Open Look Window Manager) OS/2 Warp 4 (IBM) PalmOS QNX Rtos (Photon MicroGUI) Windows 9.x/ME Send comments or questions to me via this List, or e-mail me privately at martinb@NOSPAMidirect.com (without the "NOSPAM", of course) and with "X-Finder Themes" in the Subject line. Bruce in Toronto http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:00:59 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: cheap power adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Andrew On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:45:30 -0500, Andrew King wrote: > Now I have gone to the other extreme, I am using the F1044A > adaptor from my Omnibook 425. It's rated at 12 volts at 2.5 > amps. It even says "for use with HP computer products only" I > actually have an extra F1044A omnibook adaptor which I would > part with for $10 plus postage. Yes, these adapters (F1044A and F1044B, the latter supplies 3.3A) are ideal. I also use them daily for my Omnibook and my palmtop. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:01:00 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: sed regular expression wanted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 07:06:36 -0800, Wayne Thompson wrote: > sed -e 's/¬\|Ý ¨*//' file_to_be_processed thanks for your suggestions. I choose this one and it did its job perfectly (although I had to replace the single quotes by double quotes). If anyone is interested: I have created a set of two batch files which take all your MM files in the current directory and convert them from NoteIndent=| format to Noteindent= format, which is compatible to PE's outline format. The NoteIndent=| variant is also compatible to PE outline, but it is not as easy to handle and to read, IMO, and there is less horizontal space for the notes if every line begins with a | and a few spaces. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:01:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 and ir MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Inigo On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 15:28:12 -0800, "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" wrote: > First: > Set the phone and the Hp 200lx with both IR ports > facing each other and enable IR in the Nokia. > Second: > *Start concopy and IR by typing: > *When IR loads type: > *(Upper case please!!) > This AT command will read all phone book entries. > Third: Exit IR, then type: > exit > * This last command will end Concopy. > Fourth: You will have a file called tel.txt which > contains a list with all of your phones entries!!! > Fifth: Import the file to Lotus 123 and erase all > unnecessary stuff. Leave only phone numbers and names. > I suppose all this could be automated with a batch > file and a macro. If you have a WWW/LX license, you can use WWW/LX in conjuntion with Robot/LX and the robot script PHONE.SCR for exactly that purpose. It is a one-line command then. ;-) This is what I'm currently trying to do. Actually I concentraate more on uploading the phone book to the phone after extracting the relevant entries from the HPLX's phone book. This is working already. Downloading is a little bit difficult, because every phone behaves differently when you issue the AT+CPBR command. So I won't come up with a general solution which works for every phone. In case my solution doesn't work, the user has to modify phone.scr himself. > Sixth: Append this entries into your Hp 200lx's phone > database. I haven't been able to do it yet ;) I haven't done so either, but I won't go that deep into it. I could imagine it is fairly easy to do with gdbio or so. You probably have to reformat the phone book file. The best choice for that is probably to write a custom C or pascal program or use an AWK script. Good luck! If you are finished, we could combine our solutions, make up a package from that and offer it for download somewhere. If you can automate your download process, it would be really good, because then also non-WWW/LX-licensees had a way to download their phone books easily. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 22:49:52 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Boot disk images MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, not exactly palmtop related, since the palmtop can only boot to its own DOS, but: On my homepage there are now several boot disks for download. MS-DOS 6.2 installation disks, MS-DOS 7 boot disks, one especially for the HP Omnibook 800, and Linux boot disks. One of the latter is a very powerful rescue system which can be used to recover bad partition tables etc. with all needed tools aboard. Regarding legality: Since Microsoft announced that DOS becomes abandoned soon, I think no one should really have a problem with the DOS disk images offered publicly. But if there are serious problems, I'll remove them again. URL: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/bootdisks GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:27:00 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: 1GB type I CompactFlash announced ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Belin" > - How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we > could never fill a 100 MB hard disk ) I could fill about half of it in one day with a single database program I have, about a quarter more in about a week or so if I scrounge around desperately for every DOS program and database I can throw at it (Win3.0? not worth it). Then I would scratch my head wondering how to fill up the rest. :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:48:25 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Neil Sheppard HPLX-L store (WAS: HPLX-L Digest - 5 Nov 2001 to 6 Nov 2001 (#2001-335) In-Reply-To: ; from ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM on Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:36:03PM -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:36:03PM -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > Not everything he's selling is HP200LX specific stuff but he is selling > older/refurb hardware and I think many people on the list would find > that stuff interesting. Though an arguably better list for that is SurvPC , dedicated to the preservation and daily use of outmoded PC hardware. (Some folks there might in fact argue that a 200LX /is/ a SurvPC. 8-) If anyone's interested in checking out that list, send a blank email to . We now return you to your regular LX clinic. 8-) - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:42:35 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: ADMIN: For Sale Items on HPLX-L MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:35:22 -0500 (EST) My Officical Stand on "For Sale" postings: 1 - Items of an "LX nature" are welcomed & encouraged 2 - Please prefix all subjects with "FS:" so people can filter them. 3 - If your items are of a "non LX nature", please use the "OT:" prefix (Off Topic) and please do this sparingly...only if you are sure someone on the HPLX-L would be interested(from a previous discussion for instance). THANKS! Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 03:04:19 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Latin dictionary Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one > for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those > smartasses always quoting Latin phrases. Oh, did you find James Joyce on Guttenburg? (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:55 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion Comments: To: Tony Hutchins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony Hutchins wrote: > Tue, 6 Nov 2001 22:59:08 +1300 (NZDT) > > 02h58m14s ago ... > On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 09:00:54 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > The newest version is available at > > http://www.dasoft.com/roboweb > > I'm pretty sure a link to this roboweb site does appear on the > www.dasoft front page, and also in the "announcements" and was > also mentioned in a recent D&A newsletter. Yes, Left column in main page, about 2/3 way down there is ROBOWEB with link to www.dasoft.com/roboweb. It is in the announcements too. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:48 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: cc:mail no longer supported Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Russel Brooks wrote: > I wonder how this will affect Martin Paul who runs Palmtop.Com > and those of us with accounts there? Likely no effect unless he needs support. The announcement was that you cannot buy it or get support on it. It is a remarkably stable product and probably will not need support for a long long time. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:44 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: ROBOWEB 1.1 Comments: To: th@PARADISE.NET.NZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, Tony Hutchins wrote: ÝRe: ROBOWEB.ZIP¨ > (the version at ftp.dasoft.com.. is the original version GONE!!! I deleted it to reduce confusion. Only one version - the latest - exists, see next line. > " " " www. " " latest " ) This one is good! Tony can update www.dasoft.com/roboweb but not the ftp.dasoft.com so he has the latest version in his section of the D&A Website. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:58:52 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Avi, how about removing old software versions? ;-) > I also saw an old MM/LX version some time ago, I think it was in the PE > directory of your ftp server. Daniel, Tony used the latest Robot.exe which he got directly from Andreas into roboweb.zip. The problem WAS that there WAS an old roboweb.zip on ftp.dasoft.com (and I did not even remembered it was there!) - IT IS GONE now. If you want ROBOWEB.ZIP use Tony's www.dasoft.com/roboweb ... As to ROBOT.ZIP It is now the newest as of sometime early on 7th November. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:03 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Latin dictionary Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe jp2@vatican.vt knows? (I am not sure what the CC for Vatican is.) Write in Polish for faster services ... Avi M. Ed Padin wrote: > Has anyone heard of a Latin-English dictionary. There should be one > for lxdict but I haven't found it. Kinda handy to have for all those > smartasses always quoting Latin phrases. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:07 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: 1GB type I CompactFlash announced ! Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jacques Belin wrote: > Sundisk just anounced a new 1GB CF card. Ý...snip...¨ > - do it will work on the palmtop ? No idea. I hope so. > - How many weeks to fill it ? (hey, remember in 1985, we thought we > could never fill a 100 MB hard disk ) I have a 512MB card in the Palmtop for about 1 year now. I still have 88MB available. I keep backups for a long time, and even cheat: I use it as a way to transport huge files between my Win98 desktop and other Win and Linux machines ... I also have several complete intranet sites that I am editing for someone. Maybe that gives you a sense for the size of a 1GB card. On the 1G Microdrive (not used on the Palmtop) I loaded Win98, Win95 many huge upgrades and it is nearly empty still ... So what would you say - maybe 12 months to fill it? I think if I get one of these I'll put all the Gutenberg texts on it for example. That might make a dent in it. Right now I do not even dare _think_ in such terms. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:12 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Announcement: GUI Themes for X-Finder Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Too-too Cool! Makes my mouth water... Maybe I _should_ look at X-Finder ... ... Bruce Martin wrote: > Have you ever wanted your palmtop to have the look and feel of your > favorite desktop GUI? > > Now you can, with X-Finder and your choice of 14 different OS themes = now > available for download now at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ > > Choose from: > > Amiga Workbench 3.x > Aqua (MacOS X) > BeOS > CDE (Common Desktop Environment) > Gnome > IRIX > KDE (K Desktop Environment) 2.x/3.x > MacOS 8.x/9.x > NeXT (NextStep) > OLWM (Open Look Window Manager) > OS/2 Warp 4 (IBM) > PalmOS > QNX Rtos (Photon MicroGUI) > Windows 9.x/ME > > Send comments or questions to me via this List, or e-mail me privately = at > martinb@NOSPAMidirect.com (without the "NOSPAM", of course) and with > "X-Finder Themes" in the Subject line. > > Bruce in Toronto > http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C167F7.74E6CB70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C167F7.74E6CB70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interestin Handheld Chronology http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm By the way, Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and = Worldwide? I mean is it in the tens or hundreds of thousands or in the millions? ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C167F7.74E6CB70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Interestin Handheld Chronology
 
http://www= .islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm
 
By the way,
 
Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP = sold in US=20 and Worldwide?
 
I mean is it in the tens or hundreds of thousands or = in the=20 millions?
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C167F7.74E6CB70-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:34:10 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: palmpc.zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stefan, daniel : repeating earlier msg : from what i understand .. palmpc.zip is a program which can emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. correct ? where to get it ? the url of geocities.com/SiliconValley/.... doesn't work .. any other url ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, My 200LX has developed a symptom I've never seen before. On the "r" "f" and "c" keys, when pushed, feel like the standard tactile feedback -but- the characters do not register in the application. So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk". If I press REAL HARD on the key, then I can get it to register. Anybody else seen this, and anybody have a suggestion on how to fix it? (No other keys exhibit this behavior.) Thanks -Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:35:23 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Addition: RE: 2 MB 200LX - complete plus charger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Correction / addition: > One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though) > > Perfect screen and hinges. Original Nylon HP slipcase. Manuals, > connectivity kit software ( just the original diskettes plus book, no cable) > > Asking $200 / acceptable offer. Shipping in EU about $15, rest of the world $30 Has socketed 1MB board, can accept the Times2tech 4MB board without soldering. + Including original HP Charger: UK wall socket version, plus EU continental/dutch socket adapter. + Including CDR with 125 MB LX freeware, abandonware and shareware. ( from SUPER, and extra's s.a. Taskbar, MSWord5, etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:20:05 -0500 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Reply to your alarm Comments: To: Neil Sheppard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This mail list is a community of folks using HP 100/200LX palmtops, we try and keep "on topic" as much as possible, but when members of our community stray off-topic, it's OK, because by and large, they tend to stay on topic. Your posts are not "on topic", never have been, and can be quite long. I believe your initial mailing offered to stop sending us updates if we are not interested in your offers... Well, we are up to three list members that are not interested - how many more do you need to see before you will unsubscribe and take your offers elsewhere? Thanks, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Sheppard" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:52 PM Subject: Reply to your alarm > You know to me there seems to be something wrong with a person who > always finds time for tiniest little issues to pick at. And rather than > getting to the root of them - he whines to everyone but the person who > seems to be at the cause. Like you In this case...... It's such a big > deal but you can't even say what bothers you! Instead you put out > feelers like "I may be out of line etc," or "Maybe I'm wrong but..." > You're not sure what the problem is, but if you can find a few others > who are as petty as you maybe you can stick pins in someone because they > have something that seems to be working just a little bit, and God > forbid people might like it. Oh what pain!! How that must sting!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:52:01 +0100 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Opening Att. in Post/lx MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi I have tried to use the information from www.dasoft.com tips & tricks page. I do not use SC and I start post/lx in Maxdos. I would be quite content with Post/lx just opening msg.htm with hv. I guess I realy wouldnt need pns200. Why does it not work? I have tried to start post/lx from plain c:/ (no c:\200) www -d "!post) but when i do a ctrl-M i get the choice to save or open. I choose open and the screen flickers, but nothing more. Help. Thanks /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:25:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Wayne E. Yang" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wayne E. Yang" Subject: Handhelds in the Military MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-58000204-1005229515=:35576" --0-58000204-1005229515=:35576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Interesting article in today's New York Times about the use of handhelds in the military. http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI.html Wayne E. Yang ============= wayne_yang@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume on Yahoo! Careers. --0-58000204-1005229515=:35576 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Interesting article in today's New York Times about the use of handhelds in the military.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI.html



Wayne E. Yang
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wayne_yang@yahoo.com


Do You Yahoo!?
Find a job, post your resume on Yahoo! Careers. --0-58000204-1005229515=:35576-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 07:55:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There was a discussion of this in July of 2000: see http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0007/msg00737.html One estimate was 1.75 million, but AFIK, no definitive figure emerged. BTW, as a courtesy to the many list members who don't use Outlook, et al., please send your posts as plain text, not html or rtf. -----Original Message----- From: Tralornik Ýmailto:Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:48 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? Interestin Handheld Chronology http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm By the way, Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and Worldwide? I mean is it in the tens or hundreds of thousands or in the millions? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:57:49 +0100 Reply-To: Uzi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Uzi Subject: Re: Simcity classic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info, I've found the original as well distributed as shareware. ( http://home.arcor.de/uweramm/spiele3.htm ) And it runs fine! Thanks again, Zoltan Id=E9zet Laust Brock-Nannestad level=E9b=F5l >On Wed, 7 Nov 2001, Uzi wrote: > > > I've found out that Simcity classic is now available free > > at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ . > > I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode availabale) > > From the readme: > > VIDEO MODES: > ----------- > SimCity Classic can run in several video modes: > > Hercules Monochrome > EGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x350 2 Color) > VGA/MCGA Hi-Res Monochrome (640x480 2 Color) > EGA Hi-Res Color (640x350 16 Color) > VGA/MCGA Lo-Res Color (320x200 256 Color) > VGA Hi-Res Color (640x480 16 Color) > > So that does indeed rule out CGA... > > > Is this version different from the commercial one? (regarding display > > drivers) > > "Simcity Classic" is the slightly revamped version of the original game, > with better sound and music support. "Simcity Classic" was released in > 1992 (or thereabouts), including a Windows 3.1 version which was quite > good. The original Simcity is from 1989 and should run in CGA (although > I > have never tried it on the LX). > > I guess there would be no harm (ethically anyway) in distributing the > original version now that the 1992 revamp is available for free... > > > bye, > > Laust > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > --------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- http://www.mailbox.hu - Mert levelezni kell... ---------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- http://www.mailbox.hu - Mert levelezni kell... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:08:24 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Avi Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Avi, It was great to finally meet you as well. If it took a bad 440MB :-( to do it, it was worth it!!!! We had a great time at lunch (Sizzler) talking 200lx, computers in general and playing with toys!!!! I bragged about my new NEXII MP3 player and we verified that it would run a 1GB microdrive. No MP3's on it to play, but I'm sure that will change :-). At least it powered the drive and showed the directories. Give me a call any time you get in the area, we'll do lunch again!!! In fact, if anyone on the list gets into the LAX area let me know. Perhaps a 200lx party/conference? Avi, thanks again for your help and the too kind words. Meeting you as indeed the highlight of what shall become known as the "440MB Incident" Joe Buford ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 10:25:44 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Simcity classic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uzi wrote: > I've found out that Simcity classic is now available > free at http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/ . > I've tried to run it but no success (no CGA mode > availabale) > Is this version different from the commercial one? > (regarding display drivers) The original SimCity had CGA drivers. Then, sometime after SimCity 2000, I think, they published SimCity Classic. I think it was with some other Sim programs but I don't remember the details clearly. Anyway they made a few changes in it. They took out some of the graphics modes and made it only run with the CD inserted. That's probably been cracked over and over by now. Anyway SimCity Classic isn't quite the same as the original SimCity. I probably have my old copy of SimCity somewhere. I'll see if I do. Does anyone know if it's legal to distribute it now? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:33:53 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: 1-2-3 and dBase versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a few spreadsheets and database files that I've developed on my 200LX and would like to share. But I've got a few copyright hurdles to jump first, so hang on... But what I wish to know is what other machines this stuff could be used on; I mean, which other machines run v2.4 of 1-2-3 (or nearby versions, anyway)? Which other machines can take the ---.gdb files from the 200LX dBase SW without wailing or gnashing of files? thanks Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:19:11 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mike On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800, Mike Cheponis wrote: > So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk". Dust or other dirt between the contact foils. I know that. The only chance to make the keys work as new again is to take the palmtop including the keyboard apart and clean the contacts. It is very difficult to do for a person who doesn't have experiences with the palmtop hardware. Relatively easy to do if you have taken the palmtop apart once. To remove the keyboard you have to do a tricky and time-consuming thing: The whole key array is mounted onto the shell of the palmtop by many, many little sticks. You have to press all these sticks out of the plastic shell. Once you have removed the key array you can lift the upper foil with the key bubbles (which make this "click" for every keypress) and clean the contacts with alcohol. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:10:26 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Vertical Reader Registration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recall some discussion on registering VR. Now that I started using the program, I am wondering if it is still possible to get the registered version? Seems like I recall the author not responding? Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:01:51 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Handhelds in the Military In-Reply-To: <20011108142515.36863.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:25:15 -0800 "Wayne E=2E Yang" a =E9crit: > Interesting article in today's New York Times about the use of handhelds i= n the military=2E > http://www=2Enytimes=2Ecom/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI=2Ehtml Isn't during the Gulf War they used HP200lx ? I dont remember=2E=2E=2E Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 09:57:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Simcity classic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Probably not legal, as the publisher still makes and sells versions of the game. -----Original Message----- From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:26 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Simcity classic I probably have my old copy of SimCity somewhere. I'll see if I do. Does anyone know if it's legal to distribute it now? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:06:49 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Opening Att. in Post/lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:26:01 +1300 (NZDT) 05h34m ago ... On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:52:01 +0100, Tomas Moberg wrote: > Why does it not work? I have tried to start post/lx from > plain c:/ (no c:\200) www -d "!post) but when i do a ctrl-M > i get the choice to save or open. I choose open and the > screen flickers, but nothing more. Maybe POST/LX cannot find HV.EXE? What do you have in ÝSYSTEM¨ for the PNS= value? Where is HV.EXE in your palmtop? Is it in your DOS path? As you launch POST/LX with maxdos, you can use the loaded maxdos tsr to give you the best chance of opening a msg.htm: PNS=maxdos hv will work if maxdos.com and hv.exe are in your DOS path, and you don't have an hv.bat in your path. Otherwise use something fully explicit like pns=c:\bin\maxdos.com a:\hv\hv.exe You may be able to shorten it to pns=hv. Later you may want to try pns=maxdos pns200.exe (handy for pictures or for reading messages in READ/LX or VR or ..) Good luck Tomas! - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:07:04 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Handhelds in the Military MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wayne E. Yang wrote: > Interesting article in today's New York Times > about the use of handhelds in the military. > http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/08/technology/circuits/08MILI.html Indeed. Can be got with HV from: http://www.nytimes.com/nytimes-partners/avantgo/technology.html (Same article is at both places - I saw them in my ROBOWEB/LX messages this morning) - Tony http://www.geocities.com/aghutchins/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:10:53 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bob, is this true ? 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ? looks a bit too much .. where are all those good people ? from the traffic in this list and in other forums .. it looks like there are only a few thousand users .. and of them only a few hundreds are active on any lists pk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:25 PM Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? > There was a discussion of this in July of 2000: see > http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/0007/msg00737.html > > One estimate was 1.75 million, but AFIK, no definitive figure emerged. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:06:46 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: palmpc.zip Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tks bob .. pk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: "'pksharma'" Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: RE: palmpc.zip > I can't find my original zip, so I zipped the palmpc.com file, which is > attached. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 12:23:51 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? Comments: To: Mike Cheponis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Use one of these compressed air canisters to direct air into the gap between the keys and the plate where the legend of the keys is printed. Blast air in there. In most cases the dust and particles of various debris gets between the keys and the pressure points they push on to make the "click" (and register the key), prevents the contacts. Blasting it out with a strong current of air usually fixes it. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:08:54 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: FS: 2 MB 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >One 2MB 200LX in very good condition: ( Bit dusty though) That's the one reason why i would not buy this unit - the dust! If dust gets under the keyboard you need to take it apart. Not an easy task if you are not a "Daniel" :) btw. Daniel, how much do you charge for a dust job (Staub-Putz)? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:07:01 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: del XGREP in favor of XTGOLD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laust: >Well, I guess if you don't need Regular Expressions (the real >strength of xgrep, apart from the small size of course), you can >save a whole 3.5kb by deleting it ;-) so, what is an "Un-regular" expression, and how/what for would you use it on the LX? from XGREP.doc: You can use XGREP to -- display the lines in a file that contain a particular word, phrase, or pattern; count those lines in which a particular pattern occurs; or generate a list of files that refer to a given topic. XGREP supports the following command line options: -c Line count only -h No file names -l File names only -n Number lines -o Errors to stdout -r Recursively search subdirectories -s Silent about inaccessible files -v Non-matching lines -x No magic: all operators need \ -y Case-insensitive match to be frank, i wouldn't need any of this, and XTGOLD finds case-insensitive matches without parameters anyway cheers nat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:54:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Handhelds in the Military MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Another article at the URL you give includes the following: "Mr. ÝDavid W.¨ Packard, the eldest son of one founder of the company, issued a statement late on Tuesday siding with Walter B. Hewlett, son of the other founder, who earlier in the day said he and his family's trust would oppose the merger Ýof HP and Compaq¨. That places the planned combination under attack from a growing group of disgruntled relatives of the founders of the Silicon Valley company. The fate of the deal, analysts say, may well now hinge on whether other family members join in dissent." -----Original Message----- From: Tony Hutchins Ýmailto:th@PARADISE.NET.NZ¨ Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 2:07 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Handhelds in the Military http://www.nytimes.com/nytimes-partners/avantgo/technology.html - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 22:46:27 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: Vertical Reader Registration MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, You'll find the author, Gilles Kohl, at: Gilles Kohl I registered mine on April 2 last. AFAIR his postal address is in a readme file in the unregistered version, and he likes to get a postcard from your locality. Richard. "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > I recall some discussion on registering VR. Now that I > started using the program, I am wondering if it is still > possible to get the registered version? Seems like I recall > the author not responding? > > Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:35:23 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? In-Reply-To: <006f01c16821$5e5a24e0$f8129718@nm03c3.cpe.charterne.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500 Tralornik a =E9crit: > Interestin Handheld Chronology >=20 > http://www=2Eislandnet=2Ecom/~kpolsson/handheld/index=2Ehtm Missing (for example=2E=2E=2E) : - 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator) - 1981? (before or after the HP75, I don't rememeber) : HP-71 (to be very brief, something similar to the HP-75, but more powerful, with Ýalmost¨ freely available ROM code sources=2E=2E=2E etc=2E=2E)=2E Very muc= h models solds than the HP75=2E=2E=2E - 1993 (april ?) : HP100 - 1994 (June/july ) : HP200 > By the way, >=20 > Does anyone know how many 95LX, 100LX and 200LX HP sold in US and Worldwid= e? HPHAND members, do you have good archives ? I seems to remember that our Corvallis friends gave us some precise numbers somewere 1995-1996=2E=2E=2E =20 Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:33:05 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: palmpc.zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone please tell me where to get this as well? (Or just email it to me...) Thanks > stefan, daniel : repeating earlier msg : > > from what i understand .. palmpc.zip is a program > which can emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. > correct ? > > where to get it ? > the url of geocities.com/SiliconValley/.... doesn't > work .. any other url ? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:40:55 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is there anyway to extract the HP100/200LX built-in programs so that they can be run on a 286 or 386 CGA machine? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:57:54 -0500 Reply-To: th Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: th Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run. The HP Connectivity pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better) displays. There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and ADDRESS BOOK. HTH, Tom Questor Jones wrote: > > Is there anyway to extract the HP100/200LX built-in > programs so that they can be run on a 286 or 386 CGA > machine? > > Thanks > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:50:54 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ---- Original Message ----- > from: "neil sheppard" > to: "pksharma" > sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 8:13 AM > Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? > There may be a very large list out there. If I locate it would you like me > to get you on it? How would you like to wake up and check your email then > have to edit about 1.75 million messages before lunch every day?? Hmmm.... > Neil Sheppard Yes, yes, Oh yes ! please do locate the list for ME ! and for once receive millions of msgs .. if there are so many being sent abt the Lx ! i am very very sure that a thing like the Lx200 is not a product .. it is a philosophy .. we have great guys having great moments .. at all points of time .. the simplest users to the most powerful users .. the absolute newbies to the absolute gurus .. and there are the stefans, the daniels, the hals and the Avis :-) THIS is something to be studied .. logged .. recorded .. (shit its looks like i'm being emotional abt it) .. the birth .. and immortality of the Lx200 and its kith and kin is a message to entire Mankind. it is not there by design .. its there because only IT could be there .. majestically occupying its place where all other successive PDAs can never even hope to be .. its universal appeal is a result of its utility .. it is very very alive and cannot die .. probably .. until another one similar or better is born (morphyone is in hibernation) .. i have been harping on this philosophical view for a loooong long time .. it doesn't seem to have ANY takers .. but everyone is in love with his Lx200 .. proud of it .. wanting to keep it going .. even when 1gig flashcards have come around .. and people meet people in eating places, fairs, clubs and drooool over it .. Hal and Stefan .. palmtop papers, DASoft, Thaddeus and Sargeant .. these people can give a REALISTIC estimate of the population of the LX around the world .. made .. sold .. serviced .. owned .. used .. whatever .. So let's get the facts in a realistic frame .. and see where we and the Lx stand .. If so many Lx's are really really there all around .. where are all those good people ? Its time these good people are called and put together .. for the pride .. for the purpose .. what is it that made this thing tick .. like the studies on the other areas of human existence .. this is a very very important area .. and for the sake of posterity, we need to STUDY this phenomenon and turn this chance happening to a solid reality .. which can be emulated for the sake of making good things happen .. and LAST and LAST for as long as possible (oh dear .. this msg has really become tooo long .. sorry guys .. its how i feel about this GOOD thing .. don't we all?) .. pk Ýob, u cn thro some light on the numbers made .. the Covalis connection ;-) ¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:11:52 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? In-Reply-To: <3BEB4632.4FEFDBF@verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much more money than the 100LX ?? I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so minor....couple games, little more memory expansion (which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need to turn it off for a second).... Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the upgradability doesn't seem all that great. (100LX can be DOUBLESPEEDed at least). So what gives ? I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more than a 100LX? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:47:33 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: palmpc.zip Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tralornik, i thought palmpc.com would emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. it doesn't ? when i ran it nothing happened .. send over the 2 programs u r mentioning .. let's see what they do .. if nothing else .. atleast they will 'put the PC into CGA mode' :-) ..pk (that was fast .. r u on line now ? yahoo chat ?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tralornik" To: "pksharma" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: palmpc.zip > > pk, > > What are you expecting them to actually do? > > I thought they were a zip of the built-in apps, but apparently they are not. > > If you are looking for a program that simply allows you to run .EXE programs > written for the palmtop on your PC. I have one that I know works (on most > apps) and I would be to glad to send it to you. (It is called PALRUN, and > there is also another one called CGAGRAPH). Both of them basically put the > PC into CGA mode to allow the HP programs to run. > > Tralornik > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pksharma" > To: ; "Tralornik" ; "Bob > Christopher" > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:17 AM > Subject: palmpc.zip > > > > attached are the files i recd from other members .. if you can get them to > > work .. let me know too .. i am not able to make them work .. yet ! > > > > pk > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:37:57 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? Comments: To: Questor Jones In-Reply-To: <20011109071152.32365.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Quicken is the big difference for me. Plus, the character generator ROM is better; I can distinguish '8' and '0' (that zero) on the 200LX, while it's harder to distinguish them on the 100LX. The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX I think some things are worse: The stylized letter on the 200LX keycaps aren't as readable as the 100LX keycaps. And the Fn shift which is in purple on the 200LX is not as high contrast as the aqua that is on the 100LX. Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the 200LX. -Mike On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Questor Jones wrote: > From: Questor Jones > So what gives ? > > I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very > curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more > than a 100LX? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:57:17 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok ! whatever i said about the Lx200 .. read to include the Lx100 too ! :-) pk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Questor Jones" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:41 PM Subject: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? > Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much > more money than the 100LX ?? > > I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so > minor....couple games, little more memory expansion > (which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need > to turn it off for a second).... > > Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the > upgradability doesn't seem all that great. (100LX can > be DOUBLESPEEDed at least). > > So what gives ? > > I am not trying to knock the 200LX, I am really very > curious as to why it seems to be worth so much more > than a 100LX? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 02:58:31 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: boblintw here? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 13:57:44 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote: > Tomas Moberg wrote: > > > I have gotten A LOT of virus mails from him/her! > > > > > > is here anyone on the list with an email address starting with > > > "boblintw@..."? > > Daniel, myself, and now you. And me.. > Looks to be palmtop related. Yes it seems to be. > Thanks to Jacques Belin for the Sircam info. I wrote to > "boblintw" and informed him/her about the infection. I did too.. > The email didn't bounce back, but triggered just another > Sircam email. Hope it helped. I had the same happend to me. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:18:20 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, sorry for being off topic, but maybe one of the computer cracks on the list knows something about my problem. Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS. We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed. Additionally the printout starts after 20 seconds, not immediately like before under Win 98. I suspect that the command characters are changed by W2k so the printer does not get the characters I send. The commands start with ESC, ascii 27 and so on. TIA for any input. cheers, Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:48:46 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FS: 2 MB 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Nathalie On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:08:54 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > If dust gets under the keyboard you need to take it apart. Not an easy task > if you are not a "Daniel" :) For me it is no easy task either. I know how to do it, and I can do it, but it costs me a lot of time. > btw. Daniel, how much do you charge for a dust job (Staub-Putz)? 25 US$. Plus shipping costs. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:48:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: del XGREP in favor of XTGOLD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi nathalie On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 18:07:01 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > so, what is an "Un-regular" expression, and how/what for would you use it on > the LX? Regular expressions are much more powerful than just a text search. Read the thread about MM/LX file conversion with sed from the last few days. It will give you an idea. I wanted to eliminate all characters of the beginning of a line, if they begin with a "|" and continue with an uncertain number of spaces. Following text should be preserved and thus moved to column 1 of each line. No problem with regular expressions. A text search (and replace) would have problems with this uncertain number of spaces. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:49:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 1-2-3 and dBase versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Leo On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 11:33:53 -0600, Leo Bellantoni wrote: > I have a few spreadsheets and database files that I've developed > on my 200LX and would like to share. But I've got a few copyright hurdles > to jump first, so hang on... I'm curious! > But what I wish to know is what other machines this stuff could be > used on; I mean, which other machines run v2.4 of 1-2-3 (or nearby > versions, anyway)? Which other machines can take the ---.gdb files from > the 200LX dBase SW without wailing or gnashing of files? Lotus 123 v2.4 runs on every DOS PC I think, the graphical add-on only on VGA or CGA(?) compatible computers. No problem to import 1-2-3 files into recent Excel versions and StarOffice under Linux. The GDB files are a proprietary format for the LX database. One way to use them on other machines is to convert them to CSV and import them into other databases or spreadsheets. The other way is to use programs written for Linux and Windows which can open GDBs. I don'T know any program for Windows, but someone (I think it was Gerhard Gonter) wrote a perl script for Linux (maybe also usable with a Perl port for Windows?) whici lets you browse through GDBs and even modify them. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 01:14:26 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Well, I did disassemble the keyboard and washed both the "fingers" and the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before. It wasn't so bad with your hints! But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still miss. Is is possible I just plum wore out the keyboard? Thanks again! -Mike On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 19:19:11 +0200 > From: Daniel Hertrich > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? > > Hi Mike > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 23:57:22 -0800, Mike Cheponis wrote: > > > So if I touch type "firetruck" I get "ietuk". > > Dust or other dirt between the contact foils. I know that. > The only chance to make the keys work as new again is to take the > palmtop including the keyboard apart and clean the contacts. > > It is very difficult to do for a person who doesn't have experiences > with the palmtop hardware. > Relatively easy to do if you have taken the palmtop apart once. > To remove the keyboard you have to do a tricky and time-consuming > thing: The whole key array is mounted onto the shell of the palmtop by > many, many little sticks. You have to press all these sticks out of the > plastic shell. > > Once you have removed the key array you can lift the upper foil with > the key bubbles (which make this "click" for every keypress) and clean > the contacts with alcohol. > > GTX > daniel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:15:47 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Simcity classic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:11:07 +1300 (NZDT) 17h13m18s ago ... On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 16:57:49 +0100, Uzi wrote: > Thanks for the info, > I've found the original as well distributed as shareware. > ( http://home.arcor.de/uweramm/spiele3.htm ) > > And it runs fine! It sure does! I always wanted to find the first version. After "install" for the palmtop it only takes up 360K and simcity.exe is only 190K. Very fast! - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:23:56 -0800 Reply-To: Terry Livingston Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Terry Livingston Subject: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C168EF.7E27E220" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C168EF.7E27E220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I was wondering if anybody on this list has went over to "the = other side". I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with it's = cf slot and strong processor. The big reason I personally haven't went = to win ce units was because of the 200lx's database, but I understand = now that there are database programs for the new handhelds. Does = anybody know if the new handhelds running pocket pc 2002 win can run any = dos programs? I would be interested to hear of anybody that has went = from the 200lx to a handheld like the hp 568. These are expensive units = and it would really be a pain to get one and find out that there was = something that I used the 200lx for that I couldn't do with the = handheld. Please feel free to respond off list, I know this runs very = close to "heresy". Thanks in advance for any replys. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C168EF.7E27E220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
         I=20 was wondering if anybody on this list has went over to "the other=20 side".  I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with it's = cf slot=20 and strong processor.  The big reason I personally haven't went to = win ce=20 units was because of the 200lx's database, but I understand now that = there are=20 database programs for the new handhelds.  Does anybody know if the = new=20 handhelds running pocket pc 2002 win can run any dos programs?  I = would be=20 interested to hear of anybody that has went from the 200lx to a handheld = like=20 the hp 568.  These are expensive units and it would really be a = pain to get=20 one and find out that there was something that I used the 200lx for that = I=20 couldn't do with the handheld.  Please feel free to respond off = list, I=20 know this runs very close to "heresy".  Thanks in advance for any=20 replys.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C168EF.7E27E220-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 06:48:50 -0600 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Dictionary program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can get one? Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:05:25 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On the "r" "f" and "c" keys, when pushed, feel like the standard = tactile > feedback -but- the characters do not register in the application. You may have dirt under those keys. Try "blasting" them out with one of = those cans of stuff for spray cleaning keyboards. You could also take the = keyboard apart to clean it. Check www.hplx.net for photos of this operation (I = think this is the right web site). Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:08:52 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: palmpc.zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" PALMPC is like PALRUN and INT5F: it allows you to run programs made for the LX on your desktop computer. What they do is intercept the special HPLX video routines (int 5F calls in assembly language) and translate them to regular CGA/VGA calls. If you want to run Lotus 1-2-3 on your desktop, you will need to get a copy of that program. There is GDBWin, however, which is a Windows version of the LX's database program. -----Original Message----- From: pksharma Ýmailto:pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN¨ Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:18 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: palmpc.zip Tralornik, i thought palmpc.com would emulate an hplx200 on a desktop .. it doesn't ? when i ran it nothing happened .. send over the 2 programs u r mentioning .. let's see what they do .. if nothing else .. atleast they will 'put the PC into CGA mode' :-) ..pk (that was fast .. r u on line now ? yahoo chat ?) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tralornik" To: "pksharma" Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Re: palmpc.zip > > pk, > > What are you expecting them to actually do? > > I thought they were a zip of the built-in apps, but apparently they are not. > > If you are looking for a program that simply allows you to run .EXE programs > written for the palmtop on your PC. I have one that I know works (on most > apps) and I would be to glad to send it to you. (It is called PALRUN, and > there is also another one called CGAGRAPH). Both of them basically put the > PC into CGA mode to allow the HP programs to run. > > Tralornik > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "pksharma" > To: ; "Tralornik" ; "Bob > Christopher" > Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 9:17 AM > Subject: palmpc.zip > > > > attached are the files i recd from other members .. if you can get them to > > work .. let me know too .. i am not able to make them work .. yet ! > > > > pk > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:13:38 +0100 Reply-To: "Fam. van Wirdum a.b. Vita Nova" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Fam. van Wirdum a.b. Vita Nova" Subject: Re: palmpc.zip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do not know about palmpc.zip, but I doubt whether it is an LX emulator. I believe the HP LX Connectivity Pack (CPack) comes nearest to emulating an hplx200 on a desktop. It is a commercial product, available from Thaddeus. Geert. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 17:12:46 +0100 Reply-To: "Fam. van Wirdum a.b. Vita Nova" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Fam. van Wirdum a.b. Vita Nova" Subject: Re: 1-2-3 and dBase versions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most pcs running DOS should be able to run these older versions of 1-2-3, I believe. However, the files can immediately be opened in Excel. There are just some incompatible features, but not many. GDB files will run in CPack, the HP LX Connectivity Pack (commercially available from Thaddeus), on DOS machines, or with GDBWin under Windows. GDBWin was originally developed in Japanese, but an English version can be downloaded free from Super and from Thaddeus, if I am right. I have some GDB files with many fields per record which GDBWin refuses to properly deal with, but in general it is an excellent program. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:25:39 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dictionary program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a > decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a > thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can > get one? Bryan The Collins dictionary from Thaddeus made a believer out of me. Takes about 10mb of disk space and has some quirks, but is reasonable comprehensive (at least from my limited verbal perspective) and has some useful features, such as giving you a list of words "close" to what you're looking for (if you don't know the exact spelling), and a thesaurus. Check at http://www.palmtoppaper.com/Store.htm although their links to the dictionary looks broken right now. There are cheaper and smaller dictionaries, but hardly one (for DOS) that's quite as thorough. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:50:03 -0800 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Where is the screw? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everybody, Lower right part of my 200lx (the corner with +(paste) button)became loose. It looks like I should have a screw to tighten and make this corner fixed. Otherwise, a couple of button do not function. Anybody knows where is that screw or how to tighten that corner of palmtop? Thanks, Bulent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:43:11 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Homepage updated: IrDA, Mobile HPLX, MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I have just updated my home page: The Mobile HPLX page is updated, thanks to Radek Svagr there is now a very interesting section about Sagem phones (I strongly recommend all Sagem phone owners to read that!), see phone list. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx And the page where I have had the guide to build an IR transmitter device is updated: No guide anymore, reason explained there, but instead some useful information about IrDA in general and palmtop-specific. I wanted to reach the aim of my site to be _the_ general palmtop connectivity site! ;-) http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ir_dev A few minor updates on other sites. Actually not worth mentioning. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 20:51:48 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Where is the screw? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bulent On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:50:03 -0800, Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > Lower right part of my 200lx (the corner with +(paste) > button)became loose. It looks like I should have a > screw to tighten and make this corner fixed. > Otherwise, a couple of button do not function. > Anybody knows where is that screw or how to tighten > that corner of palmtop? It is a Torx-6 screw under the rubber foot in that corner. Take a small regular philips screw driver to pull the foot out, then use a Torx-6 to tighten the screw. Strange that it gets loose. I hope the case is not broken inside. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 16:12:54 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Where is the screw? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's what she said! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:19:25 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last for many many hours in the Palmtop. There were reports of them lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. I just got two new ones and they lasted for about 56 hours, based on using the Palmtop for about 8 hours, for 7 days. And they are still going, although I get anxious at about 2.40V - because the batteries have a steep drop-off at the end of their lifetime, where they may drop deom 2.39V to 2.32V in a matter of an hour (I measured that once, a long time ago!) My tracking of last week is not a methodical scientific tracking, just a ballpark figure. YMMV, of course. The main issue with these batteries is that a pair costs about $7-9. In some cases less, but I am now unable to find them where I used to. Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal, pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them? All the best, Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:48:42 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: Terry Livingston MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think its heresy to talk about migration. One has to be realistic about benefits and costs; If people stay on the HP200 it should be because it provides tangible benefits to the owner that outway the cost of migration. But hey if sentimentality spins other people's wheels who am I to criticise them? For me the HP200 suits me because 1. It has a numeric keypad. This gets used almost every day. Why lug around a palmtop that can't be readily used as a simple calculator as well? Its basic things like this that make for great utility. The HP Calculator App has always been very useful because my work is in finance. 2. The alarms work even if I turn the machine "off". My bacon has been saved sooo many times. 3. The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds using Buddy for my contact management needs. Eg Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe Bloggs ph 11-222-3333". Its simple but so cool. 4. At work, I coordinate with colleagues through Outlook and Curtis Cameron's OL2LX applications keeps me in synch with them. I don't have a need for Internet communications while on the move. In New Zealand there are cybercafes in nearly every town and city now so its more of a pain (both time and cost-wise) finding a telephone connection then it is to pay $NZ2 to spend 20min checking if there are any urgent emails. My 2Mb machine is going on to its 7th year now and its a trusted friend. I have a backup 4Mb machine when the 2Mb system finally gives up the ghost. Its already been refurbished once by Thaddeus and it was back in a week. Globalisation works for me. HTH Tony. > Date: Sat 10-Nov-2001 04:23 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > From: docliv@BLUERIVER.NET > Subject: Staying with the 200lx > > Hi all, I was wondering if anybody on this list has went over to "the > other side". I have been eyeing the new Jornado 568 handheld with > it's cf slot and strong processor. The big reason I personally > haven't went to win ce units was because of the 200lx's database, but > I understand now that there are database programs for the new > handhelds. Does anybody know if the new handhelds running pocket pc > 2002 win can run any dos programs? I would be interested to hear of > anybody that has went from the 200lx to a handheld like the hp 568. > These are expensive units and it would really be a pain to get one > and find out that there was something that I used the 200lx for that > I couldn't do with the handheld. Please feel free to respond off > list, I know this runs very close to "heresy". Thanks in advance for > any replys. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:27:27 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the few DOS programs that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA or better resolution.. Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the timethat was limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier built-in Apps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "th" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > No, > The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run. The HP Connectivity > pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better) > displays. There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and > ADDRESS BOOK. > > HTH, > Tom > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:39:55 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone still Maintain the SUPER site? Looks like most pages haven't been updated in years. (Although it is still a GREAT site). If thier are mantainers and they read this newsgroup, I have a recommendation. Since all the email addresses of all the authors of the various pieces of LX software are on thier site, they should consider an automated mailing asking that all program authors to submit thier source code for thier programs. I mean alot of good work was done to make some great programs on the LXs and most of these authors probably don't have LXs anymore and wouldn't mind sharing the source at this time (although some might, especially those that are still active). The source code would enable those few remaining LX programmers the ability to enhance and add fresh features to old favorites. Further along those lines would be an multi-program Open-source project so that programmers can build on each others enhancements and create custom versions. (although this would hardly be necessary, just making the source available would be awesome) Think about it....Most of the custom software for these machines is years old and has really no copyright value to the original programmers. I think a large number of the authors would be more than willing to donate thier source to a repository of soem sort. Of course, the only ones that could put this together would be the SUPER maintainers, since they have all the emails and could automate and facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source as possible. What do you all think? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 19:49:27 -0800 Reply-To: dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good day, I have seen 2 problems lately with the people that have carried their 200lx machines in their back pocket for 4 years (Corvallis facilities people). Usually the display is starting to streak and the keyboards start being intermittant. I was able to improve the displays a little. The keyboards were not easily repaired. The problem was that the computers were in their pockets. The cases worked loose and were subject to frequent shear forces. The plastic alignment pins that keep the keyboard connector lined up were broken off. Without the alignment pins, the keyboard connector skews. If this had not been the problem, cleaning the keyboard connector does help. I have not dealt with the T guys, but I recommend their rebuild/repair. (Thaddius of course) David Peterson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:56:43 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS. > We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the > tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own > printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to > initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command > characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed. Do you use the same printers as before? If not, it could be a printer problem. I remember having seen cheap plain "Windows" printers. AFAIK they no longer support ESC sequences, because they only print in graphics mode. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:04:30 +0100 Reply-To: Cri Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cri Subject: TDK or Kernel modem cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi list, I came across a couple of pcmcia modem at a local flea market and I wonder if they work with the HP200: have anybody heard of a: - TDK DF1414 (14.4 modem) - Kernel FM144D (28.8 faxmodem) I searched the web and the HPLX archives but didn't find definitive indication on wether they are suitable for our palmtop (especially the 150mA threshold problem...) Cri ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:24:05 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers > with Win2000 OS. We still use a clipper program > in our daily routine and in the tests we had a > problem with printing. Something that occurs to me is to change the Clipper program (assuming you have the source) to print to either a generic printer or to a text file. Then use win2000 to print that. If the formatting on the Clipper output is just tabs that shouldn't be any problem. If it's more complex than that it probably will be a problem. I suspect that what is happening is Win2000 is sending to the printer as graphics and everything is going to the printer as binary data. That would explain the 30 second delay, also. There also might be a setting in Win2000 telling it not to treat the printout as graphics, assuming that's what is happening. I haven't used Win2000 so I don't know. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:17:23 +0900 Reply-To: Akio HIKITA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Akio HIKITA Subject: How to type French letters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local college. I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do you have any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware? Please let me know about that. My 200lx(2mb ram with 10mb flash card) is very smart with writing English, Japanese, and Korean. I use the Korean editor "San". Akio HIKITA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:11:26 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: Dictionary program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, Collins English dictionary is available from Thaddeus. It works fine on the palmtop and has features like Thesaurus, Wildcard, and Anagram Richard Bryan Biggers wrote: > You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a > decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a > thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can > get one? Bryan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:14:37 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a 2-pack. They probably still do... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:39:26 -0500 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C169ED.1D973920" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C169ED.1D973920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk = 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now = prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500". I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for = this seller" to see others... = http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938 Ken ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C169ED.1D973920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a = customer) is=20 selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several = with=20 buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - = "ssinc1500".
 
I bought several items from them, and = have always=20 been happy...
 
Here is a link to the one I bought, = click on "View=20 other auctions for this seller" to see others... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294= 724938
 
Ken
------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C169ED.1D973920-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:57:50 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: TEST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:24:23 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: TEST Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Klaus ! ----- Original Message ----- > Hi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:20:01 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Werner, > sorry for being off topic, but maybe one of the computer cracks on > the list knows something about my problem. > Our IT dept. wants to give us new computers with Win2000 OS. > We still use a clipper program in our daily routine and in the > tests we had a problem with printing. The program uses its own > printer driver and sends command characters to the printer to > initialize, choose print fonts etc. and under Win2000 these command > characters are not interpreted by the printer but printed. > Additionally the printout starts after 20 seconds, not immediately > like before under Win 98. > I suspect that the command characters are changed by W2k so the > printer does not get the characters I send. The commands start with > ESC, ascii 27 and so on. I have no idea, I do the same using WordPerfect 5.1 and accounting programs, all DOS based programs and it works fine using the HP Laserjet Series II and HP Laserjet 2100.. It doesn't make any difference if I print locally or in the network. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:21:37 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: How to type French letters Comments: To: Akio HIKITA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Akio Hikita wrote: > Im a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local college. > I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do you have > any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware? First type Fn-R for a ' ( aigue) accent , then the a or e to get =E1 or = =E9 Type Fn-T for a ` (grave) accent, then e or a for =E0 or =E8 Fn-Y followed by a or e gets =E2 and =EA etc. ( circonflex) Fn-c gets you a c-cedille - =E7 - =E7a va? And LXdict n super gets you the dictionaries. Iee, des ne ? ( skoshi Nihongo hanashimasu ) Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:25:33 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last > for many many hours in the Palmtop. > The main issue with these batteries is that a pair costs about > $7-9. In some cases less, but I am now unable to find them > where I used to. > > Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal, > pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them? I did a search on google for "L91 lithium energizer" and got some hits. This site has them for $4.50 a pair: http://www.zbattery.com/zbattery/l91bp-2.html This site has them for $2.00 each: http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm This site has some disposal information: http://data.energizer.com/batteryinfo/application_manuals/l91.htm Seems to imply you just dump 'em like any other battery: Disposal For small quantities, use the same procedures used for other Eveready and Energizer consumer products - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:30:04 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk 220 Flash > Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a > search on the seller - "ssinc1500". > > I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... > > Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for this > seller" to see others... > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938 Thanks for the tip Ken. Glad to see these major price drops in storage lately. Between digicams, LX's and Omnibooks, my cards have been making the rounds as the next bargain comes up . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:50:44 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: TEST 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; w96 - opera OK? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:09:08 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: TEST 4 Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes... Still seems to work.. (I assumeyou were looking for a response) ----- Original Message ----- > w96 - opera OK? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:14:50 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C169FA.716269A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C169FA.716269A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time filer takes to = access a large CF card ? It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the first time (or after = a power-off) Would double speed help, and even if it would, is their any thing that = would help? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Hansen=20 To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk = 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now = prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500". I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for = this seller" to see others... = http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938 Ken ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C169FA.716269A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time = filer=20 takes to access a large CF card ?
 
It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the = first time=20 (or after a power-off)
 
Would double speed help, and even if it would, is = their any=20 thing that would help?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20 Hansen
Sent: Saturday, November 10, = 2001 1:39=20 PM
Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk = cards on=20 eBay

Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a = customer) is=20 selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have = several with=20 buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller -=20 "ssinc1500".
 
I bought several items from them, and = have always=20 been happy...
 
Here is a link to the one I bought, = click on=20 "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294= 724938
 
Ken
------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01C169FA.716269A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:15:54 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C169FA.979AA740" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C169FA.979AA740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ken. But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an adaptor is a much = better investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB instead = of 128MB). Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other palmtops !) that = take CF cards. Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past. Just my thoughts. (BTW, isn't there a problem with cards over a certain size with the HP = palmtops?) ------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C169FA.979AA740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Ken.
 
But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an = adaptor is=20 a much better investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB = instead=20 of 128MB).
 
Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other = palmtops=20 !)  that take CF cards.
 
Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the=20 past.
 
Just my thoughts.
 
(BTW, isn't there a problem with cards over a = certain size=20 with the HP palmtops?)
------=_NextPart_000_00C5_01C169FA.979AA740-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:19:36 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Test MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C169FB.1BF4A450" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C169FB.1BF4A450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have turned-off HTML on my mail.. Pleas let me know if this email looks better... I am including web links to verify that HTML is off. Test of HTML from : http://www.palmtop.net/ Aegis Technologies' new IR-HP5 is the perfect hardware companion to the = Transfile Win200 software. It allows you to transfer files and back up = your palmtop at 57.6K bps over the palmtop's built-in infrared serial = port. See this page for more information.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C169FB.1BF4A450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 
I have turned-off HTML on my mail..
 
Pleas let me know if this email looks = better...
 
I am including web links to verify that HTML is=20 off.
 
Test of HTML from :
http://www.palmtop.net/
=
 
Aegis Technologies' new IR-HP5 is the = perfect=20 hardware companion to the Transfile=20 Win200 software. It allows you = to transfer=20 files and back up your palmtop at 57.6K bps over the palmtop's built-in = infrared=20 serial port. See this page for more=20 information.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01C169FB.1BF4A450-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:26:19 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: Can't post from linux netscape Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi I've (probably?) the same infos here in w95-opera as in linux-netscape. I can do my mail in both, but posting in the hplx-group isn't possible from linux-netscape. Has someone a hint? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:26:21 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: No screen, click only Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi After some time I had to load up the batteries - a lot of hours. Then after a time I couldn't it switch on. I removed all 3 batteries, waited a day put in fresh ones: the same behavior: When I press ++ I can here a click and by releasing a second. Are there destroyed some circuit by too long loading? My other 200lx didn't crash. Any hint? TiA. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:29 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: 1GB type I CompactFlash announced ! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 19:59:07 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote: > I have a 512MB card in the Palmtop for about 1 year now. I > still have 88MB available. I have a 100mb card with about 70mb free. I think I have what I need on it. I use it mainly for backup. I am sure that I will use more of the card when I get the Hplx upgraded to 32mb. The backups will use more space. But what do I need? I am sure that I could manage to fill a 1Gb card too if I really tried :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:40 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 00:35:23 +0100, Jacques Belin wrote: > Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500 > Tralornik a icrit: > > > Interestin Handheld Chronology > > > > http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm > > Missing (for example...) : > > - 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator) I had a Hp-33E which was also a programmable calculator. I remember playing "moonlanding" on it. It was back in..can not remember..bloodsugar very low :-) It was a long time ago. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:56:58 -0500 Reply-To: neil sheppard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neil sheppard Subject: HPlx items MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a slightly used Megahertz PCMCIA 28.8 fax/modem card I'm not positive but I think I can locate the cable for it. Otherwise they are obtainable. I am not sure what the current value is so I am asking for offers on this. I also have an internal PCMCIA card reader/writer for a PC that works with 1 type III or 2 type II cards It us new in the original box I am asking $150 for it. Get back to me if there is interest on either of these items Thank you Neil Sheppard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:57:19 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, > going, although I get anxious at about 2.40V - because the > batteries have a steep drop-off at the end of their lifetime, > where they may drop deom 2.39V to 2.32V in a matter of an > hour (I measured that once, a long time ago!) I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around 2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when you do this though :) 2.4 should be a safe area in any case. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:07:06 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:51:40 -0500 Martin Bergvill a =E9crit: > I had a Hp-33E which was also a programmable calculator=2E=20 At this time, I had an HP31=2E Next year, I bought an HP34C=2E=2E > I remember playing "moonlanding" on it=2E=20 I remember _programing_ "moonlanding" on it=2E ;-) > It was a long time ago=2E =20 A time when the ratio programers/users was much higher=2E=2E=2E Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:22:57 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is unlimited period shareware. On the Fn-t shortcut: Buddy uses a smartclip to do the job. You can get it to select the one you want by putting a ">" character as the first character in the title of the required smartclip. I use the one called "name and business phone". On the registration: Once you get into it you'll find out how useful buddy really is. There is a feature called Smartcaps that allows you to double click characters to automatically capitalise them. I use the world map a lot because I'm dealing with people in on the other side of the world. I would recommend that once you find you really like it and decide to use it long term I think the right thing to do is to pay him. Sure $40 seems steep now but once you've got a feel for the utility it provides... A programmer should get some compensation for his/her ingenuity, hard work, yes programming is real work... Registration also gets you the manual which is real helpful at the start because there are just so many quick key combinations to access its rich feature set. HTH Tony. > Date: Sun 11-Nov-2001 09:37 > To: tony.kan@clear.net.nz > From: bob@palmtop.com > Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx > > Hi Tony, I am just now getting around to testing out Buddy. I've had > my 200LX DS 8mb units for years now and run many DOS apps on them. > Your msg peaked my interest in Buddy: > >The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work > >arounds using Buddy for my contact management needs. Eg Buddy > >allows me to type Fn-t over anybody in my phone book and it > >appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe Bloggs ph > >222-3333". Its simple but so cool. > > - How did you set up the Fn-T paste from Phone to Appts? - What other > shortcut "tricks" are common to Buddy users? - Is Buddy still > shareware or is there a freeware bypass to the registration? $40 is a > bit steep for me. > > Thanks, Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA > bob@palmtop.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:44:56 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: Tralornik In-Reply-To: <004501c16a13$8fc41600$f8129718@nm03c3.cpe.charterne.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I just looked today by coincidence. No batteries like this. "We never carry them!" Hmmm... I was in a Los Angeles store. And where is your store? At 11/10/01 -0500, Tralornik wrote: >Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a >2-pack. > >They probably still do... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:55:10 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200111102056.PAA22262@siaar2aa.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll have a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too low. >You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when >you do this though :) It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly follow me . In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I am simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads chasing old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways. Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle name "Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest But in any case, I am highly aware of NiMH (and even have several hundreds for sale, BTW!) and NiCd and alkaline and so on. But I really posted to get feedback on Lithium batteries usage, not NiMH, and not backups. So what can you tell me about Lithium batteries usage? >2.4 should be a safe area in any case. When you enter it, yes, when you are in it over an hour of writing to PCMCIA - DEFINITELY NOT SAFE! That is ESPECIALLY true for Lithiums. From this comment I surmise you really do not use Lithiums and do not know their characteristics, is this a fair assumption? Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:43:41 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like a typical Home Depot employee to me... (Sorry, but my personal experience with *most* Home Depot employees is that they are less than helpful...perhaps that is just my local store though...) ... They never heard of something in a store with about a million products, so it must not exist. (yeah, right) Someone posted that Home Deport no longer carries them (but I assure you they used to), but I am sure you can get them pretty cheap on the web, except of course for shipping. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Tralornik" ; Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? > I just looked today by coincidence. No batteries like this. "We never carry > them!" Hmmm... I was in a Los Angeles store. And where is your store? > > At 11/10/01 -0500, Tralornik wrote: > >Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a > >2-pack. > > > >They probably still do... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:26:16 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > But I personaly think that overall CF Flash with an adaptor is a much better > investment long term (unless you REALLY REALLY need 220MB instead of 128MB). Unless you have enough discretionary cash that $50 is more "impulse" than "investment". > Think of all the MP3, Digital Cams, (and even other palmtops !) that take CF > cards. > > Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past. So is LX, so it's a match made in heaven. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:35:58 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time filer takes to access a > large CF card ? > > It takes like 10 seconds to access the card for the first time (or after a > power-off) > > Would double speed help, and even if it would, is their any thing that would > help? One thing to try (if you're inclined to experiment and generally know what you're doing in DOS) is use the DOS SUBST command (not included on the ROM so you'll have to get it from a desktop or some full DOS install, version 5.0 or later) and add some lines to the a:\autoexec.bat, near the end: subst e: a:\ c: subst a: c:\ 200 What this does is makes the card accessible from the e: drive letter and the a: letter is mapped to c: So when filer starts up, you essentially get two c: drive screens. By changing the subst mapping on the autoexec, you can probably come up with some arrangement that's more useful. Note that I played with this and it seems to work, but I don't do this on a daily basis ... maybe I will after I get my 220mb Sandisk . Try it at your own risk!! - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:53:22 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. I just got two new > ones and they lasted for about 56 hours, based on using the > Palmtop for about 8 hours, for 7 days. And they are still My best is 68 hours with a set of Lithium batteries. This was in a = single speed 100LX. It had a flash card, but I only read from it. Writing to = Flash cards uses more power. I also didn't do any modem work. I timed my = usage with Buddy, so I think it is pretty accurate since I stayed inside System = Manager the whole time. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:48:40 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: Tim In-Reply-To: <000201c16a2e$ec84f1a0$6401a8c0@user33rsg1bp67> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fn-T: There is a smart clip already in your phone app. Just edit it's title by putting a ">" character in front of the clip you want transferred to your to-do list. Voila. I use the name and business phone clip because if I use just the name I still have to look up the phone number. There is a companion Fn-P where you can highlight a name in Memo and on pressing Fn-P, it switches to the phone app and looks up the name for you. OL2LX: Yup it did create duplications but I have a program called Zoot that I also synchronise with. It is able to remove the duplications in Outlook because that is one of its features. Zoots a lot like Lotus Agenda but I gave up on LA because I lost my alarms and it was too slow once the database got above 200k or so. Sony Clie: Don't you find it a hassle carrying around two PDAs? I find one big enough. Boy its hard to find an inside suit jacket pocket that can take a HP200LX and its leather (yes, genuine leather) case. I'd be interested in reading a review with a particular slant toward comparing it with the HP200LX. I wonder if the other list members would be interested too. Hopefully it won't be too off-topic for some(!). HTH Tony. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Ýmailto:palmtop@n-link.com¨ Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2001 10:25 a.m. To: 'Tony Kan' Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx Hi there, Saw your message on the HPLX forum and had a question. re: >... Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over >anybody in my phone book and it appears in >my Appt application as "Call Joe Bloggs.... How do you set Buddy up to do that?!?!? It's amazing what Buddy can do .... each day, I trip over a new feature or see someone mention something else Buddy can do for them.... (I'm a registered Buddy user; so no features are disabled, just didn't see that one). Also, do you have much trouble w/ Curtis Cameron's OL2LX applications causing duplication? I did an Outlook Address Book export and it worked fine w/ the 200LX; then tried to send it back to Outlook (after modifying one phone entry) and got DOUBLE the number of entries in Outlook!!! I think I synched w/ my palm and used a palm utility to delete the duplications; then made the palm "win" the next synch, to fix the problem. Do you export and/or synch ToDo, Address Book items AND calendar events (and how well does it work)? As you can see, I'm a "dual PDA sorta guy" (have a Sony Clie to augment my LX now). Still have many uses for the LX that Palms can't do well (like memos, KB intensive ops and spreadsheets ... even though I DO send Excel sheets to my Palm w/ a great program called "TinySheet"). Anyway, TIA for any help and advice. --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 01:54:39 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Avi Meshar wrote: > These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last Energizer Lithium's are now a blue color so any red ones are left over stock. I use to use lithiums but switched back to the much cheaper discount alkylines. They last almost as long at MUCH lower price ($0.25 - $.0.50USD). Lithiums biggest advantage is the ability to deliver high current without a noticable voltage drop, this is why they are usually sold for photo use. My online use usually has an external modem and an ac supply so I don't have a need for lithiums advantage. Another advantage of using cheaper batteries is I can change them out before the low warning without feeling I'm wasting money. I dispose of all my batteries at my company's recycling site. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:09:05 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > 3. The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds using > Buddy for my contact management needs. Eg Buddy allows me to type Fn-t over > anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as "Call Joe > Bloggs ph 11-222-3333". Its simple but so cool. I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a! Seems Fn-t opens a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment. The reason I had to check is that I'm the one who got Jeff Mattox to put that "macro" into Buddy. I had setup a macro of my own and decided Buddy would do it better and save a macro for something else. It took a bit to convince Jeff as he was always reluctant to add stuff! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:09:16 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Home Depot used to sell Energizer brand Lithium AA's for under $5.00 for a > 2-pack. > > They probably still do... They stopped selling them in the Seattle area - apparently, they can be processed in some fashion to create Methamphetamine!!!!!!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 03:09:23 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Test Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1339090179__" --__next_part__1339090179__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have turned-off HTML on my mail.. > Something is still creating an attachment - actually, multiple according to Post/lx (when I replied) --__next_part__1339090179__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > > > > > >
 
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I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP, including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss. (fingers crossed) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:40:35 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Where is the screw? Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Padin" > That's what she said! Did you mean cymbal crash, or expensive pda hitting the pavement? :-) Sorry, couldn't resist. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:50:04 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop. Search the archives. It requires either modification or elimination of a file (don't recall which). Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tralornik" > That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the few DOS programs > that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA or better > resolution.. > > Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the timethat was > limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier built-in Apps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "th" > > > No, > > The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run. The HP Connectivity > > pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better) > > displays. There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and > > ADDRESS BOOK. > > > > HTH, > > Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:56:47 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications In-Reply-To: <003b01c16a6c$60b6f5e0$4aaafea9@mama> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now I am confused ! So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well? --- Domingo wrote: > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop. > Search the archives. > It requires either modification or elimination of a > file (don't recall > which). > > Domingo > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:21:25 -0800 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: questor_jones@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <003b01c16a6c$60b6f5e0$4aaafea9@mama> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:56:47 -0800, Questor Jones wrote: >Now I am confused ! > >So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a CGA DOS= machine, >since the palmtp is CGA as well? > >--- Domingo =A0wrote: >>=A0ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop. >>=A0Search the archives. >>=A0It requires either modification or elimination of a =A0file= (don't >>recall =A0which). Here is the bat file that starts cpack, I believe all that one= has to do is rem out the file cg.comu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D @ECHO OFF un200.exe -V1 IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12 IF errorlevel 11 GOTO EL11 IF errorlevel 9 GOTO EL9 IF errorlevel 8 GOTO EL8 IF errorlevel 4 GOTO EL4 IF errorlevel 1 GOTO EL1 IF errorlevel 0 GOTO EL0 :EL4 IF "%1"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMNO IF "%2"=3D=3D"" GOTO PARMONE tkernel.exe %1=3D%2 GOTO RUNCG :PARMONE tkernel.exe %1 GOTO RUNCG :PARMNO tkernel.exe :RUNCG cg.com /Q launcher.com cg.com /Q un200.exe -C IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12 IF errorlevel 9 GOTO EL9 IF errorlevel 8 GOTO EL8 IF errorlevel 4 GOTO EL4A IF errorlevel 1 GOTO EL1A IF errorlevel 0 GOTO EL0A CLS GOTO END :EL12 ECHO APP200: Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. = Please ECHO remove it and try again. GOTO END :EL11 ECHO APP200: Insufficient Memory GOTO END :EL9 ECHO APP200: Invalid option specified GOTO END :EL8 ECHO APP200: Only one option is allowed (-c or -v) GOTO END :EL1 :EL0 ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR is already loaded. APP200 can not be= run. ECHO Try typing EXIT to return to APP200. GOTO END :EL4A ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not loaded. A serious error has= occurred. GOTO END :EL1A ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not unloaded. A serious error has= occurred. GOTO END :EL0A :END =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- Patrick West, francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com on 11/10/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:27:38 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable hello G=FCnther, Stefan and Barry, I answer to you in one reply. G=FCnther's answer is encouraging, because I do not think there is much difference how WP or my clipper program print. G=FCnther, do you know if there is something in W2K like in W98, where you are asked if you want Dos programs to print on this printer? Did you choose any special setting? To Barry: I have the sources of the clipper program and I could change it. The printer commands sent to the printers are very simple, it is a reset, choosing draft font, line feeds, form feeds. No graphic formatting. To Stefan: we use the same printers than before. We have different printers in use, from old Epson needle printers to HP Laserjets all work fine in a W95 / W98 OS. They work as well in the network and locally connected to the PC. Thank you for the input so far. cheers, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:54:08 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: ADMIN: Please check the message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Hi! If I post from linux-netscape: ---------------------0000000000000000 The following message seems to vanish; I got no error reply and can't see it in the group and therefore no answers: If I post from w96-opera all is OK: HERE is the message postet from linux-netscape: <------------- snip ---------------> From - Sun Nov 11 08:26:02 2001 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3BEE2809.9AD8AD50@TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 08:26:01 +0100 From: Klaus Reinhardt Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE Organization: RDT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 Ýde¨ (X11; U; Linux 2.4.7 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: HPLX-Users Subject: TEST linux-netscape Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit still no success <------------- snip ---------------> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:39:51 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi Meshar wrote: > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll = have > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too = low. No mention of an advice to anybody - just factual reporting of what I do. I do it frequently (but not purposefully) when sitting in a plane with batteries running empty. I never lost data so far but I'm aware that I'm gambling here. > So what can you tell me about Lithium batteries usage? Nothing regarding usage in the LX. Yesterday I got a warning that the LI battery pack on my Compaq Armada is dead though ;-) > >2.4 should be a safe area in any case. > > When you enter it, yes, when you are in it over an hour of writing to > PCMCIA - DEFINITELY NOT SAFE! That is ESPECIALLY true for Lithiums. = From > this comment I surmise you really do not use Lithiums and do not know = their > characteristics, is this a fair assumption? Your assumption is correct - still I'm sure at 2.4 V there is no need to panick if you do "standard" work on your LX. You will always be able to construct a case where your advice is dangerous. E.g. I would not want to start an online run (downloading a large file) with Lithiums showing 2.7 V HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:03:18 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: "fjkaufman@WORLDNET. ATT. NET" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glad you did because its one of the most useful key combinations I use. Cheers Tony. > Date: Sun 11-Nov-2001 16:09 > To: tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > From: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net > Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx > > 3. The PIMS are surprisingly useful and I have managed work arounds > using > > Buddy for my contact management needs. Eg Buddy allows me > to type Fn-t over > > anybody in my phone book and it appears in my Appt application as > "Call Joe > > Bloggs ph 11-222-3333". Its simple but so cool. > > I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a! Seems Fn-t > opens a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment. > > The reason I had to check is that I'm the one who got Jeff Mattox to > put that "macro" into Buddy. I had setup a macro of my own and > decided Buddy would do it better and save a macro for something else. > It took a bit to convince Jeff as he was always reluctant to add > stuff! (G) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:25:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Sandisk CF cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After all the questions and information about offers of CF cards let me quote my own message from earlier this year: > Sandisk informed the OEM customers about end of life for the > > Type I: 48, 96, 160 > Type II: 256, 300 > > MB CF cards. The above products are being replaced by new > capacities as part of the transition to NAND memory. The new > capacities are: > > Type I: 64, 128, 192, 256, 384, 512 That means: From the size of the card you may tell, if you buy an old or a new card. I don't know if there is any difference of these cards concerning the use in a palmtop. Most likely the new cards should use less "juice". I wouldn't be surprised to see the old cards falling in price. My attention goes towards either an old 160MB or a new 192MB. Higher capacities (>220MB) need AFAIK a driver to work in the palmtop. Something I don't want to relay on, because I want to be able to boot my system from CF card after complete crashs. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 04:25:40 -0800 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: procomm plus 2.01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Before my 200lx died I ran Procomm Plus 2.01 on it with a pcmcia= xjack 14.4 modem. These days I am using a 100lx (still haven't completed switching= the screen from the other 100lx to the 200lx) So I copied my files over to the pcmcia card and plan to run a= optima 14.4 external modem. I ran a stripped down version of Procomm to save space. I have the following files PCPLUS.DIR PCPLUS.EXE PCPLUS.FON PCPLUS.HLP PCPLUS.ICN PCPLUS.KBD PCPLUS.KEY PCPLUS.PRM PCPLUS.XLT I dug out my old 5.25 inch disks booted up my microsolutions= parallel port 5.25 inch drive, attached to a p133 win98 laptop. Program wouldn't install, got a program too big to fit in memory= error. Figgured it was the floppy disk drivers so I copied the files and tried in a true dos boot off 3.5 floppies made from the= 5.25 disks. Same error. Any suggestions? Patrick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:30:46 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx In-Reply-To: ; from tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ on Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:48:42AM +1300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 11:48:42AM +1300, Tony Kan wrote: > I don't think its heresy to talk about migration. Hear hear. My 200LX screen's turned an icky shade of green and bubbled up something nasty, and it's always been somewhat cumbersome to juggle with a cellphone, so I went looking for a potential replacement (destroyed my Palm IIIx a second time by reversing the batteries). To my surprise, I fell in love with the Nokia 9210 (aka 9290 in North America). GSM data rates here in Singapore are similar to Tony's provider, but I've actually found it pretty useful for short emails on the go. EPOC Word and Sheet are decent MS Word & Excel companions, good enough to bang out faxes (also sent wirelessly) and quick projections. The keyboard works for me, and the backlit color screen (roughly same rez as the LX) is easy on the eyes. But now that I've found my new love, I still can't bear to part with the LX. Kinda like a high-school sweetheart, I guess. 8-) - Adrian ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:50:11 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1364773962__" --__next_part__1364773962__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tralornik wrote: > Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time > filer takes to access a large CF card ? The reason why it takes so long is the DOS function 0x36: get free disk space. Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function, it takes so long for the first time after a power on of the card. The card by itself is immediately available. Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive. Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program located on A: which does not check for the free disk space. It starts up with no delay at all. To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information. You may indeed use it to check if a large card which you want to buy has a delay in an acceptable range. Stefan --__next_part__1364773962__ Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="free.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 uAMAzRC6NAG0Cc0htDayAM0hPf//dBT34ffji9i4ARfNX7gCF4vTzV/rBbgHDs0QtEzNIUhleDog Pz8/PyA/Pz8/IEJ5dGVzIGZyZWUk --__next_part__1364773962__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:25:01 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to explain, why the delay only occurs the first time after power on: Because the DOS function "get free disk space" saves and updates this information in a DOS buffer. As long as no "media change" event occurs, there is no need to get this information again from the card. But because a PCMCIA card is a removable media, it may have changed between a power off and power on event. Hence DOS must get the information again from the card after a power on. This leads to a possible solution of the problem: If you tell DOS, that your A: drive is not removable, it never needs again to get the information from the card. I don't know, how to tell DOS, what kind of media is assigned to a drive. And it would be *VERY* dangerous to change the setting, because changing the card accidently would write the old directory information to the new card, thereby destroying the content of the new card! DOS archeologists remember this happening with floppy disks in the early 80th. Changing a floppy without letting DOS know about the media change usually ended in a desaster. It is therefore absolutely recommended, to change cards only during power off. You may be lucky if you forgot to power off and insert the same card again. But if you wrote to the card in the meantime (on your desktop) you can imagine what could happen... Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:23:31 -0500 Reply-To: knerml Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: knerml Subject: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments In-Reply-To: <20011111203046.A20255@svr1.03s.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into production early next year, the use of CF card slots is going away, from a storage standpoint. CF card slots are now being used for plug-in wireless devices (cell phones/modems, wireless LAN and GPS). SD/MMC card slots are now being used for storage, because they take up less than 1/2 the space of CF cards on the boards. A couple of years from now, CF cards will probably be in the same boat as full PCMCIA cards today. BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider waiting until mid 2002: - New XScale devices will be coming out by then with twice the performance of current StrongARM devices - New media chips are coming out with much higher MP3 and video performance - Current PocketPC 2002 StrongARM devices will probably be discounted Also, Bluetooth devices should be coming out mid 2002. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:59:39 +0100 Reply-To: Guenther Eisele Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Guenther Eisele Subject: Database with German Inet-by-call providers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List, I created a database containing German providers which have standard phone numbers. That means that you can dial-in esp. through mobile phone (most providers don't work via mobile, as they have special numbers) or from the hotel (for the hotel phone software the numbers are just 'plain' phone numbers, billed as local or long-distance calls). If you live in Germany and have a 'XXL' subscription with Telekom, you can even surf for free on Sundays with these numbers. Note that the Arcor numbers do not work with mobile phones, as they have a special routing of their numbers. You can download the database at http://www.guenther-eisele.de/ortstarif/ I'm currently figuring out if the listed providers also have SMTP servers which work through these standard numbers. I remember some testing where that didn't work. In the next update I will add the SMTP servers, if they work. I don't know how common SMTP AUTH is for you guys in this list. I even don't know if the current version of post/lx finally supports this important feature (my 2.2g version doesn't). This is of course the easiest solution to the SMTP problem... Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:28:42 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Werner, > G=FCnther's answer is encouraging, because I do not think there is much > difference how WP or my clipper program print. G=FCnther, do you know > if there is something in W2K like in W98, where you are asked if you > want Dos programs to print on this printer? Did you choose any > special setting? Not that I know of and no question regardingDOS programs. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:39:06 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you saying Free.com saolves the problem, or just verifies it's existance? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 9:50 AM Subject: Re: CF card startup. Tralornik wrote: > Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time > filer takes to access a large CF card ? The reason why it takes so long is the DOS function 0x36: get free disk space. Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function, it takes so long for the first time after a power on of the card. The card by itself is immediately available. Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive. Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program located on A: which does not check for the free disk space. It starts up with no delay at all. To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information. You may indeed use it to check if a large card which you want to buy has a delay in an acceptable range. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 10:36:29 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Questor Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The processor. Minimun required is 8186. Most DOS CGA machines use a 8086 or 8088. Same problem for Freepad. I share in your disappointment, as I still have two such machines. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Questor Jones" > So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on a > CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well? > > --- Domingo wrote: > > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the Palmtop. > > Search the archives. > > It requires either modification or elimination of a > > file (don't recall > > which). > > > > Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:51:14 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tralornik wrote: > Are you saying Free.com saolves the problem, or just verifies it's > existance? It verifies it's existence, but once it ran after a power on, all other programs like Filer, DIR etc. start faster, because FREE.COM already issued DOS Fkt 0x36. q.e.d. (as we mathematicians say) This is indeed no solution, the problem has only shifted from Filer to FREE.COM Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:09:24 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <162uzk-1JFfyyC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 11, 1 02:50:11 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Anyone know how to speed up the initial access time > > filer takes to access a large CF card ? > > The reason why it takes so long is the > DOS function 0x36: get free disk space. > > Because Filer, List, CHKDSK, DIR etc. use this function, > it takes so long for the first time after a power on of > the card. The card by itself is immediately available. > > Try it: Exit to plain DOS and go to the A: drive. > Switch the power off and on again. Then call any program > located on A: which does not check for the free disk space. > It starts up with no delay at all. > > To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes > test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. > (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the > free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good > feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information. (...) I got rejected again. So I'll have to split the post ... ----- Yes, I agree with Stefan because I've ``disabled'' the very DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate response without delay. With ``disabling'' I mean intercepting this DOS service to return (IRET) without doing anything. In this case, the programs that call this service will report an undefined value of free disk space (usually 0 bytes free). Examples of the programs that call this DOS service are: list.com, command.com:dir, setup.com (1000CX), df, chkdsk, ... The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes) that is written to intercept ANY interrupt and respond with some user-specifiable actions upon activation of the interrupt such as ``speaker-click'' or a screen-flash, so that one can observe the activity of this interrupt service. I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat: a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=36 /t with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET. IntClick v0.7a Nan-shan Chen C20010619 Listen to Interrupts Signaled as Click-Sound usage: ic hh ÝAH=hh¨ ÝAL=hh¨ ÝDH=hh¨ ÝDL=hh¨ (all hh's are 8-bit numbers in hexadecimal) /s: silent; don't generate click-sound /f: flip the display color (HPLX only) /a: generate an alarm interrupt Int4Ah /e: send EOI (end of interrupt) to 8259 /t: trap interrupt by IRET (don't chain) /n: set AL=1 before chaining (if not /t) /2: use the id "XY" for a second copy /3: use the id "XZ" for a third copy I can send to anyone interested in it. But first of all, I'll have to explain a bit more. The TSR is *general purpose* and is thus dangerous. No one should try it without knowing exactly what he is doing. No one without sufficient knowledge about DOS and HPLX palmtops should try it without consultance by anyone knowing DOS-details. That being said, this TSR can of course be used to disable also those messages on HPLX such as BACKUP BATTERY LOW CARD BATTERY LOW ... or to catch e.g. the hardware "NOAC" signal, and so on. The TSR is unloadable and switchable. The default of this program if called without argument is to respond every keyboard iunterrupt with a click. (Similar to some program called ``click''). But, nota bene, one could also *misuse* this program to disable the whole keyboard! (to be continues) Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:10:45 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. (2) Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <162uzk-1JFfyyC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 11, 1 02:50:11 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back to DOS service 36h, we should ask: 1. if it is safe to disable this DOS service, 2. if it completely solves the problem. The answer to 1. is: I don't know. The fact is, however, I have been using it since I got my sandisk CF128 and have written the program *constantly* without any problem (read/write access to the disk). I cannot wait so long every time the palmtop wakes up from deep sleep (power on). After powering on and after the first time this DOS service is called, I've observed that the ``free disk space'' information is saved somewhere, so that a second call to this function returns immediately with correct value. By putting the palmtop into deep sleep (power off), this information gets lost, so that the next call to this function will require scanning through the whole FAT (file alllocation table) again. Please note that I don't think this is flash-card-specific, but it happens on my laptop too and it should be general to all DOS machines. You may like to try on any PC with a big disk by typing DIR. For the first time after reboot, a DIR would casue a delay while on the second time, the command DIR returns immediately. The delay occurs at the moment when the DIR-command is displaying the last line xxxx bytes free The delay simply becomes significant due to the lower speed of the palmtop, that's all. Please note also that I'm using the CF128 *very intensively* and it is almost full now. Disabling the DOS service seems to be safe *so far*. It must be safe because I backup my thesis on this flash. In order to know, if it is safe, we would need to know how the programmers are using this service. So, I've put a question on Usenet asking the programmers how they are uing the service. But I got no response from them. The answer to 2. is: No. If we want to write to the flash, we'll still need to find free allocatin units. So, upon writing to the flash, all programs I'm using do not seem to use the result of DOS service 36h to decide if there is enough disk space for the write-access to the disk, but they just open a file for write-access, and if there is not enough space, this fwrite() function will return a error message which seems to be independent of the DOS service 36h. A complete solution to this problem would be to rewrite the DOS service 36h, which compputes and update this information *in background*. By *in background* I mean, this service should then be driven by the DOS-heart-beats, InDOS and critical error flags, as well as the Dos Idle interrupt. But I cannot afford to start the project myself. However, I'm confident that this is feasible, because I have been using a TSR (isr4a.com) to service the interrupt 4Ah (alarm) and plays either a melody or the current time in Morse code totally *in background*, where ``in background'' means if I'm charging the palmtop and pull out the AC-adapter, the playing of the Morse signal will not be distyrbed by the message ``BETTERY CHARGING STOPPED'', or, the playing will not disturb the interlnk/intersvr transfer at all. Thus, I would say, there are enough ``time-gaps'' for us to steal even on our single-speed palmtops. In fact, the above TSR (isr4a.com) not only plays melody or Morse codes, but it also has enough time to acomplish a bunch a task, like displaying the time on a corner of the screen and sending the current time to the wired/IR serial port simultaneousely. So, a complete solution to this problem is possible. It's just a matter of labor and we'll need the source code of the service 36h. Please let me know if anyone is interested. And please tell me if y0ou need the source (portable among ASM/A86/TASM). Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:04:44 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Yes, I agree with Stefan because I've ``disabled'' the very > DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128... I knew the experts are here ;-) Rudi, haven't heard from you for a long time. > The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes) > I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat: > > a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=3D36 /t > > with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET. If all you want is to disable this very function from DOS, one could do it in a 500 bytes TSR, but I see, your IC.COM is much more powerful. Good news to see there is a solution for this problem, but as you say, one should be *VERY* careful in using it. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:27:24 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: No screen, click only Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a 200lx failure while charging as well. I also have heard of a few times that it happened to people on this list. I was using a utility to increase fast charge times and it probably caused a heat issue. I no longer charge batteries in my lx. I find it easier to be a conspicuous consumer and use alkaline batteries. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Klaus Reinhardt > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 3:26 PM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: No screen, click only > > > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start > ------------------- > Hi > > After some time I had to load up the batteries - a lot of > hours. Then after a time I couldn't it switch on. I removed > all 3 batteries, waited a day put in fresh ones: the same > behavior: > When I press ++ I can here a click and > by releasing a second. Are there destroyed some circuit > by too long loading? My other 200lx didn't crash. > > Any hint? TiA. > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! > ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:27:26 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: procomm plus 2.01 Comments: To: patrick@west.net In-Reply-To: <20011111122541.OVRW12049.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@dell-one> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you have a dos 3.3 or 5.0 boot floppy around? try booting the machine into that and see if you can install.... oh, wait fat32 harddrives won't work. try copying the floppies to your LX flash A: drive and install the C: drive on the lx? > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Patrick West > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 7:26 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: procomm plus 2.01 > > > Folks, > > Before my 200lx died I ran Procomm Plus 2.01 on it with a > pcmcia xjack 14.4 modem. > > These days I am using a 100lx (still haven't completed > switching the screen from the other 100lx to the 200lx) > > So I copied my files over to the pcmcia card and plan to > run a optima 14.4 external modem. I ran a stripped down > version of Procomm to save space. > > I have the following files > > PCPLUS.DIR > PCPLUS.EXE > PCPLUS.FON > PCPLUS.HLP > PCPLUS.ICN > PCPLUS.KBD > PCPLUS.KEY > PCPLUS.PRM > PCPLUS.XLT > > > I dug out my old 5.25 inch disks booted up my > microsolutions parallel port 5.25 inch drive, attached to a > p133 win98 laptop. > > Program wouldn't install, got a program too big to fit in > memory error. Figgured it was the floppy disk drivers so I > copied the > files and tried in a true dos boot off 3.5 floppies made > from the 5.25 disks. > > Same error. > > Any suggestions? > > > Patrick > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 11:49:35 MST Reply-To: curtis j brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: curtis j brown Subject: Re: SUPERSite and Future source Code Repository? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 22:39:55 -0500 > From: Tralornik > Subject: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository? > Ýsnip¨ > > Of course, the only ones that could put this together would be the SUPER > maintainers, since they have all the emails and could automate and > facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source as possible. > > What do you all think? This kinda sounds like SourceForge (www.sourceforge.net). They specialize in hosting open source projects and provide many services to help development. For multiple developers working on code, they use what is called CVS. CVS keeps track of any changes made to any files and can merge simultaneous changes made by multiple programmers on a single file. In some ways, CVS can look like FTP if you just download the lasted-and-greatest or if you need a specific verion of a file, or if you need to upload a completly new file. You would need a CVS client to talk to the CVS server, but I don't know if any exist for DOS, and even then for an XT class PC. Anyone? -- Curtis Brown =8) mrbrown8@juno.com ("Eat at Juno's") RFC2468 A+, Net+, CCNA "Argh .. must control .. +3 cell phone .. of lawyer .. summoning.." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:52:06 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP, > including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the > bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP > beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss. (fingers crossed) And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of spam = with 100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;) Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:52:09 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes > test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. > (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the > free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good > feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information. Thanks for the nifty little program. It works as advertised on my = palmtop. It shows very clearly the difference between the first and subsequent = accesses of my 96 Meg CF. It also shows that the internal 64 Meg C: drive is much = faster after power on than the CF. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:58:14 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > The reason why it takes so long is the > DOS function 0x36: get free disk space. > > To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes > test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. Thanks for the explanation and the tool too! Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:26:06 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP, > > including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as the > > bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the HP > > beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss. (fingers crossed) > > And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of spam with > 100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;) Hmmm. Is this perchance referring to my reply to TEST! (G) I guess I inadvertantly told Post to use one of those "extra parts" when replying altho, I usually save ignore or whatever. I will admit that I do so little traveling lately and that each place I go has different setup requirements and outrageous room charges or juggling equipment in the public lobby that I don't hookup remotely as often as I once did. And, yes, this account which gets this list gets tons of junk/spam. I really would love something enforceable against spam since I really, really do NOT want to increase my BREAST SIZE - sign me a normal male with normal breast size!!!!!!!! (G) And it is not a FREE SPEECH issue - I pay to receive their junk. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:10:03 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <004501c16ac6$a2f02300$4aaafea9@mama> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So it would work on a 386? --- Domingo wrote: > The processor. Minimun required is 8186. Most > DOS CGA machines use a > 8086 or 8088. Same problem for Freepad. I share > in your disappointment, > as I still have two such machines. > > Domingo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Questor Jones" > > > > So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on > a > > CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well? > > > > --- Domingo wrote: > > > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the > Palmtop. > > > Search the archives. > > > It requires either modification or elimination > of a > > > file (don't recall > > > which). > > > > > > Domingo > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 12:11:43 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository? Comments: To: Tralornik In-Reply-To: <009101c16999$5dc922a0$f8129718@nm03c3.cpe.charterne.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think this is a great idea. Is anyone maintaining the SUPER site anymore that we could contact? (IE: that would reply to email?) --- Tralornik wrote: > Does anyone still Maintain the SUPER site? Looks > like most pages haven't > been updated in years. (Although it is still a > GREAT site). > > If thier are mantainers and they read this > newsgroup, I have a > recommendation. > > Since all the email addresses of all the authors of > the various pieces of LX > software are on thier site, they should consider an > automated mailing asking > that all program authors to submit thier source code > for thier programs. > > I mean alot of good work was done to make some great > programs on the LXs and > most of these authors probably don't have LXs > anymore and wouldn't mind > sharing the source at this time (although some > might, especially those that > are still active). > > The source code would enable those few remaining LX > programmers the ability > to enhance and add fresh features to old favorites. > > Further along those lines would be an multi-program > Open-source project so > that programmers can build on each others > enhancements and create custom > versions. (although this would hardly be necessary, > just making the source > available would be awesome) > > Think about it....Most of the custom software for > these machines is years > old and has really no copyright value to the > original programmers. I think > a large number of the authors would be more than > willing to donate thier > source to a repository of soem sort. > > Of course, the only ones that could put this > together would be the SUPER > maintainers, since they have all the emails and > could automate and > facilitate the first step of aquiring as much source > as possible. > > What do you all think? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:23:51 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would love to have a copy of this program as well as the source. Thanks so much for the full explanation. I too find the delay unacceptable and unlike you, I will probably never fill my CF card anyway. Thanks so much ! ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:18:54 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Where is the screw? Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <003001c16a6b$02172240$4aaafea9@mama> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Damn! I hate when I do something stupid while trying to be clever! ;¬P > > > That's what she said! > > Did you mean cymbal crash, or expensive pda hitting the > pavement? :-) > Sorry, couldn't resist. > > Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 21:28:13 +0100 Reply-To: Frank LOUWERS Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank LOUWERS Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: "sponsor@FTEL.NET" In-Reply-To: <200111092219.OAA02801@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Avi, I used those Lithium batteries for quite some time and got always between 35 and 50 hours out of them, sometime up to 60! This was on a DS 32MB machine, later a DS 96MB. I still always have a spare pair in my car, my office and my "travel box", just in case (they have an excellent shelf life). I had tried NiCd rechargeables, but had to recharge almost every day, as I usually did not make 2 days. Got about 10 to 12 hours out of them. But then I purchased a set of Mack's (Baggette) super NiMH, and that really sold me! I get about 20 to 25 hrs out of them, which means I only have to recharge 2 or 3 times a week, which seems to make a big difference for me in ease of use (and of course cost!). This same set of rechargeables is in my (DS 96MB) 200LX since more than 3 years, so has been charged (with ABC/LX) many many times over. Also no memory effect! I think there must be even higher capacity NiMH out there (I believe in AA size they now go towards 1800 mAh, mine are 1350 I think) but so far I have no need to find out if they are also better. Best regards, ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)... On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:19:25 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote: > >Anyone has any comments on service life, safe disposal, >pricing, discharge characteristics, places to find them? > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:31:18 +0000 Reply-To: Stuart Gray Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stuart Gray Subject: System development MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK folks, some programming questions. I have a couple of applications that I am developing, for several handheld platforms (principally my beloved Psion 3mx, but I aim to cover all possibilities eventually). What (other than my C compiler) do I need to create HPLX applications? I'd like them to run from the icon screen. Will they work equally well on a 100lx as a 200lx? Thanks. Stuart ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 16:50:23 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Questor Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I am not mistaken, a 386 is higher than a 186. :-) So yes, it would qualify. If you are thinking about the DOS 386 palmtop, you would still to modify the starting batch file to deal with cga graphics (Patrick recently posted the appropiate change required). Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Questor Jones" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > So it would work on a 386? > > --- Domingo wrote: > > The processor. Minimun required is 8186. Most > > DOS CGA machines use a > > 8086 or 8088. Same problem for Freepad. I share > > in your disappointment, > > as I still have two such machines. > > > > Domingo > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Questor Jones" > > > > > > > So then why wouldn't the connectivity pack run on > > a > > > CGA DOS machine, since the palmtp is CGA as well? > > > > > > --- Domingo wrote: > > > > ICYI, the connectivy pack DOES run on the > > Palmtop. > > > > Search the archives. > > > > It requires either modification or elimination > > of a > > > > file (don't recall > > > > which). > > > > > > > > Domingo > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Find a job, post your resume. > http://careers.yahoo.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:03:38 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:30:46 +0800, Adrian Ho wrote: > EPOC Word and Sheet are decent MS Word & Excel companions, > good enough to bang out faxes (also sent wirelessly) and > quick projections. The keyboard works for me, and the backlit > color screen (roughly same rez as the LX) is easy on the eyes. I have tested the 9210 in the store I work, but I can not think of a situation where I want a colorscreen. Ofcourse it is "nice" to have, but as somebody said "now we have color..where do we go from here.." The new Ericsson T68 cellphone also has a colorscreen(256), but other than that it is a Ericsson T39m with a built in arial. > But now that I've found my new love, I still can't bear > to part with the LX. Kinda like a high-school sweetheart, > I guess. 8-) I will never sell the Hplx's I have. But who knows what gadgets I will "fall" for in the future. Glad that the 92xx do what you need to do. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:47:18 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: No screen, click only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > issue. I no longer charge batteries in my lx. I find it easier to be a > conspicuous consumer and use alkaline batteries. I've played with rechargeables but like you I find disposable alkalines easier. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 00:10:07 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Carder wrote: > Thanks for the nifty little program. > It also shows that the internal 64 Meg C: drive is much > faster after power on than the CF. I cannot agree on that. I also have the 64MB upgrade and a 96MB Sandisk CF card. The 64MB C: drive is not removable and hence only the very first access after a reboot (not after power on) takes long. If you don't want to reboot, you may also just run CHKDSK on your C: drive. Run FREE.COM after CHKDSK on your C: drive, and it takes just as long as on A: after power on. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 18:38:45 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: System development Comments: To: Stuart Gray MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You need PAL to make your life alot easier...to program for 100LX/200LX Even has source code I believe so you taylor it to your needs. http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gilles/ (CLICK on PAL LINK) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Gray" To: Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 3:31 PM Subject: System development > OK folks, some programming questions. > > I have a couple of applications that I am developing, for several > handheld platforms (principally my beloved Psion 3mx, but I aim to cover > all possibilities eventually). What (other than my C compiler) do I > need to create HPLX applications? I'd like them to run from the icon > screen. Will they work equally well on a 100lx as a 200lx? Thanks. > > Stuart > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:23:40 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Database with German Inet-by-call providers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:54:22 +1300 (NZDT) 10h54m43s ago ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 15:59:39 +0100, Guenther Eisele wrote: > I don't know how common SMTP AUTH is for you guys in this > list. I (like you) know of gmx. Also smtp.cs.com does it. > I even don't know if the current version of post/lx > finally supports this important feature (my 2.2g version > doesn't). Yes, introduced a year ago to POST/LX. > This is of course the easiest solution to the > SMTP problem... Exactly, one SMTP is then enough :) It should be more common. Your database will be handy for visitors to, and of course natives of, Germany. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:18:47 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > To Barry: I have the sources of the clipper > program and I could change it. The printer > commands sent to the printers are very simple, > it is a reset, choosing draft font, line feeds, form > feeds. No graphic formatting. Are you describing the commands sent by Clipper to the printer? If so I was thinking maybe Win2000 was printing in graphic mode and their might be a way to tell it not to. That would be your cleanest solution. I'm sure Clipper isn't telling it to print in graphics mode. If you do change clipper to print to a generic printer or a text file which you can then print with Win2000 I think you'll have to leave out the reset and font choices. If that is what's going on the only thing that Win2000 is likely to handle properly are tabs, linefeeds and formfeeds. And maybe not formfeeds. I think I remember those are different on a Laser printer and a dot matrix printer. Again, I'm just guessing. I don't know Win2000. I've dealt with printer controls a lot but it's been years. I've been retired for over 5 years now. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 23:48:27 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I cannot agree on that. I also have the 64MB upgrade and a 96MB > Sandisk CF card. The 64MB C: drive is not removable and hence > only the very first access after a reboot (not after power on) Good point. Well, it was a nice theory until the actual data showed up = . Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 06:59:58 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > I use them till I get the normal low battery warning from the HP, > > > including on modem connections altho, that does get hair-raising as = the > > > bytes keep ticking on by or message numbers keep climbing and the = HP > > > beeps it low warning - so far, no data loss. (fingers crossed) > > > > And then the last piece of mail turns out to be a 4 line piece of = spam with > > 100K of formatting, including the duplicate HTML version..... ;) > > Hmmm. Is this perchance referring to my reply to TEST! (G) No - that happens to be called "Murphey" (if something may go wrong it will go wrong) :) - Murphey exists - Murphey hits - Murphey is especially after YOU ! And then there is Parkinson who claimed that Murphey was an optimist (G). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:00:04 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike > From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into production = early > next year, the use of CF card slots is going away, from a storage > standpoint. ... > BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider = waiting I would not bother waiting - I would not buy in the first place ;-) I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA. The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I know it is being done for iPAQ's). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:48:52 -0000 Reply-To: alban@MYCROFT.U-NET.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce Subject: OTY: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments Comments: To: HP Staber In-Reply-To: <200111120558.AAA14686@siaar1aa.compuserve.com> Does Anybody know of a database for linux that is configureable like the Hplx Phone book ?? ( yes i am running Familiar 0.5 with qt 1.3 on ipaq ) On 12 Nov 2001, at 7:00, HP Staber wrote: > Mike > > > From what I've seen in new PocketPC 2002 devices going into > > production early next year, the use of CF card slots is going away, > > from a storage standpoint. > ... > > BTW, anyone considering buying a PocketPC 2002 PDA should consider > > waiting > > I would not bother waiting - I would not buy in the first place ;-) > > I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is > sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE > machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA. > > The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I > know it is being done for iPAQ's). > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 09:31:25 +0100 Reply-To: radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Radek Svagr Subject: Apacer CF & Double speed200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Heelo, Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF card! I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any driver until now. Any suggestions? I already had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE driver installed I have the same problem. regards Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:25:20 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Invalid RFC822 field - "Reply to: Gottfried@Burckhardt.net". Rest of header flushed. From: Gottfried Burckhardt Hi Rudi, hi Stefan, I see the experts here and I'm going to add my two cents . If I'm understanding correct it's possible to intercept into the startup routine after pressing the "on" button. Here is my strategy (which works at least if you swap your cards _ONLY_ when the palmtop is switched off): On startup check the ID of the card inserted (you know how to do that, Stefan), compare it to the value already saved in memory and, if it is identical, just use the saved FAT. If there is a difference in card ID, just jump back to the basic routine. This way the delay in reading the FAT can be avoided if no card swap occured. Oh, an additional pointer: Inserting a modem card (mostly I swap modem cards and memory cards) you may jump back to the standard routine immediately, because I think it's not possible to issue a DIR command to a modem? For the more seldom cards (e.g. EXP combo or some EPSON or IODATA combo cards) this should work too, because they are recognized as modem and the additional memory is driven through a separate driver or they behave like memory cards (so the ID is different and the FAT has to be reead). Well, maybe sometimes I have obvious ideas, but programming is another matter, so I have to leave that task to you. Go for it, I'll be glad to beta test nodelay.com Gr|_le Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:46:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Sandisk CF cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:25:37 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Higher capacities (>220MB) need AFAIK a driver to work in the > palmtop. Something I don't want to relay on, because I want to > be able to boot my system from CF card after complete crashs. If one really needs such a big card and wants to boot from CF card if the C: drive gets deleted, one could carry around a second, small CF card as "emergency boot CF". A cheap 4MB card is enough if you don't want to caryy a whole 32MB drive backup on it ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:47:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 14:50:11 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > To prove my assertion, I allow myself to attach the 78 bytes > test program FREE.COM to this email which I just wrote. > (I know, no attachments allowed here). FREE.COM checks the > free disk space and outputs it in hex. It gives you a good > feeling on how long your card needs to offer this information. I think you whould have permission to attach any self-written program you want here on the list. No one would really be annoyed, since 1. All your programs are useful for everyone 2. All your programs are so small that it's hardly noticeable that there is any attachment. ;-) But seriously: Couldn't somehow the DOS function 0x36 be modified, so that it doesn't calculate the free disk space, but give back a dummy value (0 for example)? This is of course a drawback if you are used to see the free disk space and rely on that, but maybe some people don't need that and rather have fast access to the card through filer and DOS. Are there functions somewhere in command.com? Couldn't that be patched with debug? What do you think? GtX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:47:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Rudi On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 17:09:24 +0100, Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate > response without delay. With ``disabling'' I mean intercepting > this DOS service to return (IRET) without doing anything. In this > case, the programs that call this service will report an undefined > value of free disk space (usually 0 bytes free). Examples of the Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-) > I can send to anyone interested in it. But first of all, Yes, please send it to me. You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe machine isn't switched off. Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing totally recalculated from the FAT? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 08:19:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Are you sure it's the keyboard itself? In my case, a similar problem with several keys turned out to be in the cable connecting the keyboard with the main board. As a test, try pressing the case together at the front below the and <=> keys. It this improves things then I'd say you've found the problem and can try just cleaning this contact area. Alan Striegel Strategic Technology Consultant Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc. 440-498-6773 Cell: 440-821-7330 striegel@pios.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Cheponis Ýmailto:mac@WIRELESS.COM¨ > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:14 AM >... > Well, I did disassemble the keyboard and washed both the "fingers" and > the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl > alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before. It > wasn't so bad > with your hints! > > But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still > miss. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 14:28:21 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: OT:Dos program print problem with W2000 -> solved MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Barry, and all who responded to my question, I found the reason for the Clipper print problem finally. Clipper programs use 99% of the CPU power of W2K machines, and for this the print progress was so slowly, that the command characters came not "in time". I did some tuning in the W2K Pc and now the printouts are o.k, still it takes 10 or more seconds for the OS to start printing. There is a workaround in Clipper programs higher V. 5.2, but not in our Clipper 5.01 version. I think we stay with W98 as a solution for now. Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 07:33:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Something along this line already exists with the PAL Library. It has a lot of useful C code for developing LX applications. -----Original Message----- From: Tralornik Ýmailto:Tralornik@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 9:40 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: SUPER Site and Future Source Code Repository? Further along those lines would be an multi-program Open-source project so that programmers can build on each others enhancements and create custom versions. (although this would hardly be necessary, just making the source available would be awesome) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:25 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Apacer CF & Double speed200lx Comments: To: radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using >Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF >card! I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any >driver until now. Any suggestions? > I already had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself >using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused >by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE >driver installed I have the same problem. I don't have any answers but some questions that may help others help solve your problem: Did you test the card between those different crystals? Is it possible the card got messed up in the first crystal test? Is the card now readable in other devices? What error or errors do you get? What happens when you try reading the card? I have not heard of the double speed having any affect on cards. Good luck ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:35 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > DOS service 36h on my Sandisk CF128, so that I can get immediate > > etc > Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a > non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after > powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing > totally recalculated from the FAT? Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called? Supposedly holds whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard resets? Of course, other programs use it so that it cannot be blindly used and each must check if data is already there. Or maybe just saving that info in a tiny file in c:\_dat would be faster - even just reading that file in the background is faster than refreshing the info filer needs?? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:59:28 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: DOS/LX Fax Programs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup= BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there? Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:14:55 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: Battery information MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi fellow HPLXers, Here is some data about battery types: http://www.rayovac.com/busoem/oem/specs/recharge_alk.shtml Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:37:42 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: DOS/LX Fax Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for > simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup > BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there? You need to go through the hole of that needle! It is worthwhile! I use BGFAX as faxserver on a hp200lx connected to a network. It is running flawless since years. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:45:31 -0600 Reply-To: Tom Salwasser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: OT: 110 volt Switch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I apologize for this off topic post but I know the members of this list are skilled in many areas and I would like to ask a question. I want to control the thermostat of a vacation home in northern Minnesota. We have very cold winters in Minnesota and I want to make a telephone call to activate the furnace before I arrive for the weekend. This way it will be warm when I get there. I know there are x-10 and other solutions but I wasn't happy with any of the products I saw. I did find a device used to manually reboot a computer from a telephone in the B & B electronics catalog: http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=pstone. I can call this device and activate it's 110 volt electrical outlet. I would like to plug some type of switch into this outlet that when energized, would close the circuit on the wire between the thermostat and furnace. My questions: 1) Does anyone know of an off the shelf switch that when energized by 110 volts would close the circuit on a low voltage line between the thermostat and furnace? 2) If there is nothing available off the shelf, can someone get me started on how to make one? 3) General comments about my plan? Thanks again for your help. Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:43:01 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: CRC Program Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all; A few years ago the topic of file corruption came up here and I mentioned a CRC program I had written based on a code snippet I had found to do a 16 bit Cyclic Redunancy Check (CRC). The only one that commented on it at the time wanted a 32 bit CRC as it was more reliable (and he wanted some other features as well). I revisited my code recently to address some functionality issues and to fix a Y2K cosmetic blemish. I had found a document on the internet "A PAINLESS GUIDE TO CRC ERROR DETECTION ALGORITHMS", 19 August 1993, authored by Ross N. Williams. Between the fact that he coded the examples in C (so it wasn't easy for me to see what was actually supposed to happen), and the code snippet I used earlier was bad|bogus|non-standard, I decided to code up a table driven Cyclic Redundancy Check based on the standard 32 bit CRC polynomial used by PKZIP among others. The CRC is a good way to see if a file has changed or become corrupt. Which is why I bring the subject up. For those people that make automated backups, or otherwise archive files, a CRC check is a robust way to determine if two files are truely identical. As PKZIP uses the same check, it is easy to compare to a zipped file as well. I had thought that S.U.P.E.R. had some file checking programs, but my last search turned up empty. If there is any interest I could upload my program to S.U.P.E.R., assuming someone reminds me how. The relevant output from my program looking at files in the working directory and PKUNZIP looking at the zipped files follows. These are just the test and debug files I used to test the program. - - - - - - My Program with 16 bit checksum and 32 bit CRC Program to display file checksums and CRC codes. File Date Time Size Checksum CRC NUMBERS 7 Nov 01 8:53 9 54537 CBF43926 NUMBERS1 7 Nov 01 8:53 10 54537 00C49E49 NUMBERS2 7 Nov 01 8:53 11 54537 DD02D227 NUMBERS3 7 Nov 01 9:11 12 54537 77D55834 NUMBERS4 7 Nov 01 9:11 13 54537 F3C1CE60 NULL 7 Nov 01 15:20 1 00000 D202EF8D NULLS 7 Nov 01 16:08 2 00000 41D912FF ONE 7 Nov 01 14:49 1 00049 83DCEFB7 ONES 7 Nov 01 16:10 2 12593 D65A1577 - - - - - - and PKUNZIP Searching ZIP: D:NUMS.ZIP Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Attr Name ------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ---- ---- 9 Stored 9 0% 11-07-01 08:53 cbf43926 --w- NUMBERS 10 Stored 10 0% 11-07-01 08:53 00c49e49 --w- NUMBERS1 11 Stored 11 0% 11-07-01 08:53 dd02d227 --w- NUMBERS2 12 Stored 12 0% 11-07-01 09:11 77d55834 --w- NUMBERS3 13 Stored 13 0% 11-07-01 09:11 f3c1ce60 --w- NUMBERS4 1 Stored 1 0% 11-07-01 15:20 d202ef8d --w- NULL 2 Stored 2 0% 11-07-01 16:08 41d912ff --w- NULLS 1 Stored 1 0% 11-07-01 14:49 83dcefb7 --w- ONE 2 Stored 2 0% 11-07-01 16:10 d65a1577 --w- ONES ------ ------ --- ------- 61 61 0% 9 - - - - - - Comments about the usefulness, layout, or features are of interest. I normally use the program to see what gets changed after program installs or upgrades. Varients are one that does all files in a directory and one that does a directory and all subdirectories below it. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:54:13 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Full size PCMCIA cards are really a thing of the past. >So is LX, so it's a match made in heaven. :) :) :) Sounds like George Burns saying "I can remember when the air was clean and sex was dirty." Anyway...heaven or not, i'd really like to lay my hands on one of those famous Sandisk 220mb cards for $50 - very affordable! i can't do E-bay - so, guys, anyone who can get one for me i offer $60 incl. shipping merci, Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:56:37 +0100 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >If people stay on the HP200 it should be because it >provides tangible benefits to the owner that outway >the cost of migration. i have been toying with the thought of a Jornada 720 (to possess one) :) but .. too heavy, too big, no numeric keyboard, low battery life - and i thought i might as well log my laptop around - which was cheaper and can do more than the Jornada selling for AUD 1,700.- here down-under. PC-magazine in a price comparison rates it as not worth the money. nat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:11:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: DOS/LX Fax Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bob On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 10:59:28 -0700, Bob Christopher wrote: > I need to be able to fax ASCII text files. Any suggestions for > simple programs to use in DOS and on the LX? I'm trying to setup > BGFAX, but get a lot of errors. Any other programs out there? http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx there is also a fax section. I use 2bgfax, the companion of bgfax, for processing, but qfax to send the faxes. Good luck daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:11:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Fred, On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:35 +0000, wrote: > Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called? Supposedly holds > whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard > resets? I think you mean the nvram? Yes, this could be a place to hold such data. Probably faster to access than a file in the FAT file system, but as you say - it is a sensitive place. But first question is: _can_ the value be exported in some way so that a TSR could take it and save it somewhere? I am not a TSR programmer, I only write little, simple programs on higher levels. I think Stefan and Rudi are the ones who know. Or Barry? In times when big flash cards get cheaper and cheaper, this may be an important improvement. I have also suffered from quite long initial delays after power-up with my SimpleTech 96MB CF card. When they are cheap enough, I'll probably switch back to Sandisk again. Not that i have any problems with the SimpleTech (except that the green color of the simpletech logo vanishes with time), but I feel better storing my thesis and mind maps (or better - mind mirrors) on a Sandisk. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 11:26:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Martin G. Ramirez" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Martin G. Ramirez" Subject: OT: Statgraphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, This is a question for the users of statistical analysis packages. Recently, in the process of cleaning out the office of a deceased faculty colleague, I came upon a set of 5.25" disks for Statgraphics 4.0 (a 1989 DOS package), but with no manual or any documentation. I have since installed this on my 200LX and it runs just fine. However, without a manual, there's a number of things I have no idea how to take care of. I have done some web searching for this item, as well as computer library catalog searching, but have had no luck thus far. So, does anyone out there have a manual for this sitting around gathering dust, perhaps at work, or know where one might be found? If so, let me know directly. Thanks, Martin ============================ Dr. Martin G. Ramirez Department of Biology Loyola Marymount University One LMU Drive, MS 8220 Los Angeles, CA 90045-2659, U.S.A. (310) 338-5120 FAX: (310) 338-4479 e-mail: mramirez@lmu.edu ============================= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:28:28 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: OT: 110 volt Switch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tom, On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:45:31 -0600, Tom Salwasser wrote: > I did find a device used to manually reboot a computer from a > telephone in the B & B electronics catalog: > http://www.bb-elec.com/product.asp?sku=pstone. I can call this > device and activate it's 110 volt electrical outlet. I would > like to plug some type of switch into this outlet that when > energized, would close the circuit on the wire between the > thermostat and furnace. My questions: > > 1) Does anyone know of an off the shelf switch that when > energized by 110 volts would close the circuit on a low voltage > line between the thermostat and furnace? So, you have a switched 110V outlet and want to let control this a low-voltage line? No problem at all: Buy a cheap AC-Adapter (with DC-Output 4.5V for example) and a suitable relay (which can switch the voltage / current your furnace needs and which takes as switching voltage the voltage from the AC adapter. Then mount everything together and it should work. . power source for furnace . 110V out | . | | 110V=====/_====O =ÝAC-Ad¨===4.5V======>/_ ( 3) General comments about my plan? There could be of course a simpler solution with less devices in between voltage source and furnace ;-) But this one above is the simplest I think. I would do it this way. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:49:51 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <162y21-099HtYC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 11, 1 06:04:44 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I knew the experts are here ;-) Rudi, haven't heard from you > for a long time. Hi, Stefan. I dare not show up because I owe too many people! Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's Guide (on his own cost :) and then Jorgen Wallgren sent me again a newer version of the Developer's Guide (on his own cost :). I plan to keep both of them, so that I'll remember them forever. But if someone on the list claims that he would have a better use of the Developer's Guide, then I'll have to send him the one from Stefan (on my own cost :). And, I have not forgotten I still owe Longden something, ... since almost two years ..... > > The implementation is a general purpose TSR: ic.com (3560 bytes) > > I thus have a line in my autoexec.bat: > > > > a:\bin\mein\ic.com 21 ah=36 /t > > > > with the option /t meaning ``trapping'' with IRET. > > If all you want is to disable this very function from DOS, > one could do it in a 500 bytes TSR, but I see, your IC.COM > is much more powerful. > > Good news to see there is a solution for this problem, > but as you say, one should be *VERY* careful in using it. P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash. It's for you easy as pie while ASM could kill me. And I need an even larger disk now, because my CF128 is full -- last night after posting to the list. BTW. I was using a UNIX-like "cp" to copy a file to the flash card, while the DOS 26h was disabled. "cp" (copy) does not use the service at all and told me that the disk has not enough space. Neither does command.com: COPY nor XCOPY use the service. "echo ajdkasdjaasdjkl > x" does not involve calling the service either, and so on. But we'll need a proof ... :) Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:01:37 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: Database with German Inet-by-call providers In-Reply-To: <13211375186.20011111155939@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo Guenther and friends, this list of providers is very usefull. There were many changes in the last time (germany.net became nexgo, now it is arcor.de), but I see, that most of the old access points are working. I tested Arcor Zossen near to my hometown, and it works very fine under Win98 with my analog modem and my mobile phone (city option, so I have a mobile internet access paying just 0.15 DM =3D 0.07 cent) . It also worked without any problems with the 200LX and the C35i mobile phone. So Arcor *yes* works with mobile phones. BTW: With the C35i, I use "ATDI" instead of "ATDT" to enforce a fast ISDN-like login procedure. 2nd BTW: For german speaking list members: I've updated my homepage with additional info on HP 200LX and internet providers: http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/bread/689 Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- Hello List, I created a database containing German providers which have standard phone numbers. ... Note that the Arcor numbers do not work with mobile phones, as they have a special routing of their numbers. ... Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mit freundlichem Gru=DF migaro.de Inh. G. Lennartz Gabriele Lennartz Postfach 11 42 Tel. 0177/802 22 52 D-14961 Ludwigsfelde Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 21:19:59 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's > Guide (on his own cost :) I even forgot it. It must have been the old (100LX) version. You owe me nothing! > P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this > is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash. I had some thought about it last night. First of all, I suggest to only chain into INT21h fkt36h and ring the bell whenever the function is called and then let INT21 do its job. This will inform you always if any program uses the function. Indeed you know, that Filer, DIR, List will always ring the bell as expected. But with the bell you will find out, if any other program uses it as well. You bypass already fkt36h, but if you replace your IRET with: PUSHF PUSHA MOV AX,0E07h INT 10h POPA POPF IRET you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different programs and one never knows. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:41:34 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As a safety, you can add the bell ringing code and add it as a startup parameter. That way, people can turn it on off as they get new programs, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: CF card startup. Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Too all: I know my palmtop because Stefan sent me his Developer's > Guide (on his own cost :) I even forgot it. It must have been the old (100LX) version. You owe me nothing! > P-l-e-a-s-e help solving the problem, because I think this > is a quite essential issue for everyone using a larger flash. I had some thought about it last night. First of all, I suggest to only chain into INT21h fkt36h and ring the bell whenever the function is called and then let INT21 do its job. This will inform you always if any program uses the function. Indeed you know, that Filer, DIR, List will always ring the bell as expected. But with the bell you will find out, if any other program uses it as well. You bypass already fkt36h, but if you replace your IRET with: PUSHF PUSHA MOV AX,0E07h INT 10h POPA POPF IRET you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different programs and one never knows. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:14:30 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE In-Reply-To: from Daniel Hertrich at "Nov 12, 1 11:47:14 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-) Huh? I have not read about it ... But I don't really go through every post of list. I've made it to sort the incoming mails via $HOME/.forward and a filter to a separate folder and look once in a while to the folder. The vague impression I got from the list is that you are a very, very, very busy guy! :) BTW. I always wanted to purchase one of your "light" for the palmtop, but never have made it since more than two years, I think. Is there any left? > Yes, please send it to me. done. > You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe > machine isn't switched off. I'm not sure that this information gets lost only when the palmtop is powered off. I vaguely recall something about DOS that if a big program is loaded for executaion, some part of the command.com will be overwritten. After the program terminated and returned the control to the shell (COMMAND.COM), it will check the integrity of itself and reload itself if necessary (using COMSPEC). Am I right??? Or is this an impression from the good old CP/M ... > Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a > non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after > powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing > totally recalculated from the FAT? Yes, it's another gut possibility, I think, i.e. ``to assist the DOS service'' instead of disabling it. (DOS always needs assistance in its whole history. :) The problem is: I don't know where it is saved and what critical information the service is using. We need DOS-Gurus to tell us where. I guess there could be some flag(s) in DOS signaling necessity of updating this information and, quite probably, these flags would not be used for this sole purpose. Another issue, as Stefan has pointed out, is the medium-change-flag. I did not thought of that at all. This seems to be another project suitable for team-work. One the other hand, since I cannot stand wating so long, I have always disabled this DOS service already for four months. And last night my flash card was finally full. So, this approach could be a provisorical solution before a better one is implemented (Stefan!). The problem remains that we cannot tell the people this be safe although this has not caused a problem so far ... A proof would require checking *all* compilers that they do not use this service for making critical decision, and the habits of ASM-programmers count too ... well, it's almost hopeless :) But I'll surely keep disabling the 36h until ... Stefan! Oh, yes, I seemed to have suggested to myself in the file IC.DOC that if we move the occupied allocation blocks to the end of the disk, once in a while, and keep more free blocks at the beginning of the disk, the write-access to the disk should be faster. Becasue I recall (again, vaguely, sorry) that the file allocation strategy DOS uses is to find the first free block from the beginning of the FAT and then the next free block and so on. (This has little to do with the DOS 36h service, but it also causes a major delay of the write-access, somehow, also for the first time, the second write seems to become must faster.) But we cannot experiment ... how? All de-fragmentation utilities I know move the used blocks to the beginning of the disk. Well, I also wonder why they do that, and not the other way, if I'm right about the allocation strategy of MSDOS filesystem. Any idea? Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:40:25 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen In-Reply-To: <200111122114.WAA26598@getultra61.uni-paderborn.de.> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if this same problem is what causes software carousel to slow down. I notice that software carousel takes some time to swap sometimes. It does seem to happen after a on/off/on but also happens when you have not swapped for some time. Perhaps the buffer gets flushed? Too bad this is not a linux-like OS where the buffer can be written in the background. How about a TSR that detects when the free space buffer is empty or out of date and refreshes it in the background? > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Nan-Shan Chen > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 4:15 PM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) > > > > Ah, I see, my idea is not new! :-) > > Huh? I have not read about it ... But I don't really go > through every post of list. I've made it to sort the > incoming mails via $HOME/.forward and a filter to a separate > folder and look once in a while to the folder. The vague ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:41:12 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <163NYU-0aUHMOC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 12, 1 09:19:59 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > you will always hear a beep if someone calls the function. It > will be annoying after a short time, but its purpose is to find > unexpected calls. If there are none, one could almost safely > bypass it, as you do already. But other users may use different ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ > programs and one never knows. ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬ Yes, that is the very problem. Because I have been hearing the sound for all four months ... :) I have in IC.COM options to either click the speaker or flip the screen. All programs I'm using (mostly DOS ports of UNIX commands) behave well, i.e. they do not call this verd**** 36h when a write access is being intended (incl. unlink/delete, append, create, ...). But we cannot tell the other that it be safe becasue we don't know what programs they are using ... :( So, as a assembler-Guru, you don't seem to use this DOS service for any critical decision, do you? It's already a big gain, if your answer is you don't. I've just check my C-programs which were compiled by Turbo C v2.0. They behave also very well. The C-function used was fopen() and fprintf(). But, again, I cannot say anything about a e.g. Fortran compiler that I don't know. So, a good solution remains to be rewriting the 36h. And writing 36h does not compleletly solve the problem because reading a file and writing a file still involve scanning through the big FAT. I've done no experiemnt here so far. (See another post.) Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:54:52 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Avi Meshar writes: > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll have > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay too low. > > >You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently when > >you do this though :) > > It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly follow > me . In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I am > simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads chasing > old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways. > > Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle name > "Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped backup on drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total lost info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written down anyway. David (Gibuy) Becher -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 01:38:44 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi > These are the L91 gold and red Energizer batteries which last > for many many hours in the Palmtop. There were reports of them > lasting anywhere from 35 hours to 71 hours. << I've been a long time user of lithium batteries for my lx. I like the = longer life, the resistance to cold, and the ability to better withstand = higher current draws with a modem. I use battlog to keep track of them; = I get between 50 - 75 hrs on them with about 56 being normal. That is = with a sandisk 48mb cf used mostly for backups, and an 8mb 2x lx. I = change them out at around 2.4. The gold and red color on energizers has now been replaced with a blue/sil= ver scheme. I usually have to pay $12-14 per 4 pack. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:59 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Dictionary program Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan, I use American Heritage Dictionary v1.000 Copyright 1990-1992. Works well and it is fast. I also have the Collins dictionary mentioned here elsewhere. If you are looking for spelling only, PE (http://www.dasoft.com check products) can use any wordlist, and there are plenty. Also Quick/LX (www.dasoft.com too) can be used as a = spelling checker on-the-fly, with any simple ASCII wordlist (but memory is a consideration.) Avi M. D$A Software Bryan Biggers wrote: > You know, my LX would be just so much more useful if I had a > decent dictonary program for it that would run in DOS. Such a > thing must have existed at one time, does anyone know where I can > get one? Bryan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:49 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Cheponis wrote: > Quicken is the big difference for me. > > The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX AFAIK it is identical between the machines. BTW, on both machines you can load a better font. > Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the = 200LX. Agree with you there! More disnguished looking. I know several people who bought a 100LX just for the case ... Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:42 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jacques Belin wrote: > Le Thu, 8 Nov 2001 01:48:25 -0500 > Tralornik a =E9crit: > > > Interestin Handheld Chronology > > > > http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/handheld/index.htm > > Missing (for example...) : > > - 1979 : HP-41 (fisrt alpha-numeric programmable calculator) Oh, yes: Several models, in fact. > - 1981? (before or after the HP75, I don't rememeber) : HP-71 (to be > very brief, something similar to the HP-75, but more powerful, with > Ýalmost¨ freely available ROM code sources... etc..). Very much = models > solds than the HP75... HP71 - Had one! Great machine. HP75 I built a system for attorneys to keep track of cases, work done for customers, billing, receipts, Timeslips, time records, and more. Sold a large number of these! I held seminars where I demonstrated these. One joke never went over well: This attorney dies unexpectedly and at the Pearly Gates he is looking for any loophole to reverse the death. Then, miraculously, St. Peter asks him to confirm he is 97 years old. "No! You see? You have the wrong Joe Blue! Send me back..." St. Peter is unphazed, and replies "Sorry, but we calculated your age from a reliable source: Your own time records, the same ones you used to bill your customers from!" ... For some reason, the attorneys never laughed at that joke! ;-) > - 1994 (June/july ) : HP200 Augsut 1 1994? I purchased mine the day after release from Educalc. I sent an email with a few other additions. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:45 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Questor Jones wrote: > Could someone tell me why the 200LX goes for so much > more money than the 100LX ?? > > I mean I know the differences...but they all seem so > minor....couple games, little more memory expansion > (which cost big $$), hot swap (like I care if I need > to turn it off for a second).... I don't think 200LX provides a hot swap, but I may be wrong. Besides, add the following trivia: the Datacomm (built-in) in 100LX is graphical, and thus EXTREMELY slow. 200LX it is character based. Maybe there is a bug fix or two in the Memo, but I cannot recall. > Besides, with a huge CF card and 2MB version, the > upgradability doesn't seem all that great. I am not sure this makes sense. Example: Even if you have a 1GB drive, in a 1MB machine, which provides a 352K C: drive, there is not much you can do online for example, unless you use also an external modem, not a PCMCIA. Another example where memory expansio IS a good thing: If you want to use Souftware Carousel (to imitate holding several palmtops, each loaded with a different set of apps) the switch time between these "images" of palmtop machines on a CF drive is TeRRIBLE! You want to put it in fast "storage", such as a large C: drive implemented in memory chips (read that as the Times2Tech expansion modules). > (100LX can > be DOUBLESPEEDed at least). > > So what gives ? No idea. There are many many more of the 200LX and the number 200 > 100 maybe gives the sense that it is a dramatically different machine. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:54 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO) that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible benefits. Over and over again, I find that I there are apps on the desktop which I want to use for various reasons. And still, over and over I also find that I co-opt the desktop apps to do work on behalf of the Palmtop. An example is the Win GDB app. In some of my large databases, it takes a long time to change view or sort. But with a nice PCMCIA card loaded up with the database, and the raw speed of an Pentium something 750MHz, a reorganization is VERY swift! ... Another use is sorting message databases - same usage of raw speed. In short, it seems that the desktop (and the notebook) are the "brute force slaves" of the Palmtop. And then I can take the resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean waves, or trees, instead of an office. I never feel like a "traitor", or like I abandon the Palmtop, when I use other machines for what they are good at - brute force and speed. On the contrary. These machines make my life easier, and enable the Palmtop to be more useful to me. And limitations keep being overcome: In the not too distant past, Andreas created a program called GET - which retrieved WWW documents and processed them sufficiently to use HV to read them. Eventually, the development of web documents stood in the way. Enter Tony. He took a poerful tool, Robot/LX (by no other than Andreas ) and extended it to the point that it became the newsgroup program of choice in the WWW/LX package. But then Tony went a step further: He went into RoboWeb/LX. (see http://www.dasoft.com/ROBOWEB) This is a powerful tool that exceeds GET many times over, built from relatively standard "building blocks" (other programs) and together, this tool lets you treat documents all over the web as easily and automatically retrievable pieces of information, and you can even handle them as email items. Several of the D&A Beta members and others here, are surpassing many perceived limitations easily and simply, extending the power and usability of the palmtop. The best thing to do is listen and encourage these people to talk. They are pushing their palmtops through amaing "walls", and move on and on. Ask them to tell you what they do: Helmuth with his DataPerfect/WordPerfect etc. faxing, networking, and usage of cellphone in conjunction with WWW/LX. Hans Peter with his use of RoboWeb to retrieve information he uses at work (right?) to help him stay ahead of competition, and even ahead of his own colleagues ... Buddy users like Fred, Andreas, and so on. This is a machine to STAY with - so far no replacements in sight - nothing to compete with it in size, simplicity, sturdiness, functionality and usefulness. And I won't mention the length of battery life ... What strikes me a hilarious and indicative of how useful the machine is are the threads we have here about WWW/LX vs. LXYCP vs. NetTamer, Or XGREP vs. Xtree, etc. Why? What other machine you know that can run and use so many BEST OF BREED programs? Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG 700LX and 1000CX)!!! Thank you for your patience while I raved (but sis not rant...) Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:40:37 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pksharma wrote: > bob, > > is this true ? > > 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ? I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various kinds, not just 200LX. > looks a bit too much .. > where are all those good people ? Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers ... > from the traffic in this list and in other > forums .. it looks like there are only a > few thousand users .. and of them only > a few hundreds are active on any lists Don't let this fool you. Most vendors in this market niche compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about 50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago. Another place for many many such machines is in laboratories. Medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with them, have them control various other machines etc. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:49:58 -0600 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi Meshar wrote: >> > > Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who > many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge > stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers ... > This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies". I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:17:00 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Outlook to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone ever had a problem when using Curtis Cameron, Outlook to HPLX converter, when you try to Synchornize? I always get all my contacts duplicated in both, rather than synchronized. Very frustrating, since I have to delete all the duplicates. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:31:29 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Offline reading. Without WWW/LX In-Reply-To: <3BF08A56.1050101@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I would like to do offline reading of the web, but I don't have a modem for my LX and don't plan to get one. I want to use the modem on my PC to download content into text form for easy reading later. Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited in it's trial version. I respect the efforts of those that created those programs, but I shell out $$ every month for an online connection and don't want to have to spend another $80 so I can use my LX to read web content, since it will never have a modem attached to it and I will therefore never get the full value form the software. I guess what I am looking for is something that works like ROBOWEB, but just dump content in Text format (and importantly repairs the file names to be 8-dot-3 compatible). I figure theier must be some PC software out there somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it. Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:33:22 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET In-Reply-To: <200111130140.RAA20489@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Even so, it sounds to me like it they are similar enough NOT to justify the (upto) 400% increase in price of the 200LX over the 100LX on EBAY. > No idea. There are many many more of the 200LX and > the number > 200 > 100 maybe gives the sense that it is a > dramatically > different machine. > > Avi M. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 20:12:23 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" In-Reply-To: <454226824160D3118F9D00508B08F15A07F5B4BD@piouspkldmail.pios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bingo! Thanks very much. I removed the bottom four Torx machine screws and wow was it dusty in there! Some isopropyl alcohol on all the contacts, including the (very dirty) keyboard cable connection, was all it took. Thanks all for the suggestions. Any piece of h/w that is supposed to last a long time has got to be easy to repair, too. Seems like the 200LX is. ---- What was throwing me off a bit was that when I presssed Really Hard down on certain keys, they would "work" - but clearly, I was pressing so hard that it was exerting enough pressure on the machine so that the dirty keyboard connector made contact! The fact that I ignored in this was that the keys that weren't working: f r c were, in fact, in pretty much a vertical line - and I should have figured that something to do with keyboard scanning was involved, not just an isolated dirtball under one key. Again, thanks all! -Mike On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Striegel, Alan wrote: > Are you sure it's the keyboard itself? In my case, a similar problem with > several keys turned out to be in the cable connecting the keyboard with the > main board. As a test, try pressing the case together at the front below > the and <=> keys. It this improves things then I'd say you've found > the problem and can try just cleaning this contact area. > > Alan Striegel > Strategic Technology Consultant > Pioneer-Standard Electronics, Inc. > 440-498-6773 Cell: 440-821-7330 > striegel@pios.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Cheponis Ýmailto:mac@WIRELESS.COM¨ > > the conductive "bubble" side of the keyboard matrix with 99% isopropyl > > alcohol, and it does seem a little better than before. It > > wasn't so bad with your hints! > > > > But, alas, although it is better than before, sometimes the keys still > > miss. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800 Reply-To: "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check this site out, http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 25252520tech.htm But it is very slow. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tralornik" To: Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > That's interesting....The connectivity pack is one of the few DOS programs > that don't run on the Palmtop....becuase they require EGA or better > resolution.. > > Probably intentional, so other competing hardware (of the timethat was > limited to CGA) could not run anything similar to thier built-in Apps. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "th" > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 9:57 PM > Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > > > > No, > > The built in apps need the ROM in the LX to run. The HP Connectivity > > pack has DOS versions of the programs that will run on EGA (or better) > > displays. There also exists Win 3.1 versions of APPT, HPCALC and > > ADDRESS BOOK. > > > > HTH, > > Tom > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:51:39 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi Fred, > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 16:20:35 +0000, wrote: > > > Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called? Supposedly holds > > whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard > > resets? > > I think you mean the nvram? > Yes, this could be a place to hold such data. Probably faster to access > than a file in the FAT file system, but as you say - it is a sensitive > place. Thanks for the reminder - my personal nvram is a bit faulty. > But first question is: _can_ the value be exported in some way so that > a TSR could take it and save it somewhere? Probably, as a binary/hex value, disk space it can't take too much room but I don't recall how much nvram there is. And dealing with it is a mystic art, I think. I think Andreas and Jeff Mattox used it. Not sure of others.... > I am not a TSR programmer, I only write little, simple programs on > higher levels. > I think Stefan and Rudi are the ones who know. > Or Barry? Well, you seem to have created some nifty programs but as the others have said, you definitely do a wonderful job of documenting the hp on your web site. > In times when big flash cards get cheaper and cheaper, this may be an > important improvement. > I have also suffered from quite long initial delays after power-up with > my SimpleTech 96MB CF card. Yes, I just got a 128cf sandisk card a few weeks back. Figuring I can use in in the HP primarily but also as additional "film" in my digital camera. Got into it in the Canadian Rockies two months ago. Altho, printing digital is EXPENSIVE! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 02:03:24 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: HP connectivity pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the connectivity pack emulate the HPLX's System Manager as well as have the DOS versions of the built-in Apps. I mean when you run the Connectivity Pack on a Desktop machine, does it look just like the HP LX palmtop, with all the icons, etc? Also, If you run it on a portable machine, do the alarm cause the machine to turn on so they work? Also, If anyone has this item for sale used, please email me directly. Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:05:09 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Becher wrote: > Avi Meshar writes: > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around > > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > > > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. We'll = have > > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay = too low. > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was = running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden = the FAT of my C: > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, = and typed > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped = backup on > drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total = lost > info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written = down > anyway. That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:16:47 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx >What strikes me a hilarious and indicative of how useful the >machine is are the threads we have here about WWW/LX vs. LXYCP >vs. NetTamer, Or XGREP vs. Xtree, etc. Why? What other machine >you know that can run and use so many BEST OF BREED programs? NO ! Its neither hilarious nor indicative .. ITS SOLID proof of the goodness of the product and its philosophy .. which, i say for the umpteenth time, needs to be studied .. understood .. preserved .. and most important .. replicated .. there is nothing like putting the foundation of permanency on something GOOD .. once it is known, understood, PROVED to be good .. why the reluctance .. there are none here with any ego hassels .. we are almost unanimously agree on this slogan of yours : "Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG 700LX and 1000CX)!!! " and may i add .. its philosophy .. design .. (I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ? and what is an 1000CX ?) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:23:23 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Win Gdb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I KNEW IT .. I lost that program .. some time back someone wanted to know if gdb files can be manipulated on a desktop without converting to other formats ! here is the answer : >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx > An example is the Win GDB app. <== THIS IS IT ! >In some of my large databases, it takes a long time to change >view or sort. But with a nice PCMCIA card loaded up with the >database, and the raw speed of an Pentium something 750MHz, a >reorganization is VERY swift! ... >Another use is sorting message databases - same usage of raw >speed. >In short, it seems that the desktop (and the notebook) are the >"brute force slaves" of the Palmtop. And then I can take the >resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean >waves, or trees, instead of an office. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:01:05 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Avi Meshar" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM > Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? >> 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ? > I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various > kinds, not just 200LX. This is a more reasonably correct estimate ! >> where are all those good people ? > Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who > many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge > stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers ... WOW ! what a goldmine ! "most machines" ? .. just yr guess or is this based on correct info .. i guess corporates usually give useful hardware to its people .. who of course don't agree with the idea that the hardware IS of any use .. so it lands up in the backs of drawers .. the uselessness of anything 'free' is a universal phenomenon .. a sad one ! my hands are itching to mine that goldmine ! even by paying for it .. >Most vendors in this market niche >compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other >vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about >50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This >number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago. coming from an authoritative source (you) i'll accept is as totally correct .. an active market of 50k+ people ! that's a very very high figure .. given the leaps and bounds of technology .. and many have more than one ? .. THAT speaks volumes for the usefulness of the Lx ! > other place for many many such machines is in laboratories. > medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with > them, have them control various other machines etc. TELL ME ABOUT THESE ! Please .. have them 'control' other machines .. my local computer club has a member who is adamant about NOT selling his Lx200 to me .. uses it to do PLC configureing thru the com port .. on the machines of many of his clients .. and another one not willing to give up a Dos machine which fits his back pocket .. CALLING ALL GUYS ! while it IS a very good idea for all us geniuses doing good things Ý :-) ¨ would it hurt anyone if we can somehow locate these users and users and users .. and look into the reasons for the non-extinction of GOOD things like the LX ! its a god sent opportunity for us to study this phenomenon and ensure that it is made to happen intentionally, with planning, and deliberately rather than by chance. As it has happened .. without anyone planning for it to be this way .. i don't recall another product service similar to this besides the telephone, tv and bicycle (any car .. maybe) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:04:42 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Biggers" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 8:19 AM Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? > This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large > Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies". > I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan AND ? is he still around ? more important .. r the machines still around .. go after him Bryan ! :-) pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:14:27 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Questor Jones" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? > Even so, it sounds to me like it they are similar > enough NOT to justify the (upto) 400% increase in > price of the 200LX over the 100LX on EBAY. Ah ! price is a consideration .. 4 times more ? the price - utility relationship has killed more good things which did otherwise deserve to live .. can't everything good be free .. like the sky, sea, air, water, sunshine, rain, snow, mountains .. i could go on and on .. but then humans are not god ! isn't it ? :-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:44:25 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx >I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone >else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO) >that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible >benefits. I don't agree ! i angree ! :-) Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone ! improve the good thing ! can't we start a wish list ? what features could be improved .. can't thaddeus and others make a better lx than the one we all proudly and complainingly have to use .. a lighter one .. more battery life one .. faster one .. blacker one .. multimedia one .. usb one .. printer port one .. bluetooth (802.11a the better standard 2Mbps ? or more) one .. cellphone built in one .. bigger keyboard one .. halfkey board one .. microphone one .. earplugable one .. sms one .. gps one .. goodness .. how many improvements ! (count me in .. india is now a cheap fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan base is a better idea .. morphey one is in a limbo ..) >And then I can take the >resutls with me and work at a place I like, looking at ocean >waves, or trees, instead of an office. we can do that with most others WITHOUT their being able to do what the lx does .. i saw a similar look on the face only of one liberetto user .. and that too for a short time .. battery life was awful for the libberetto ! >This is a machine to STAY with - so far no replacements in >sight - nothing to compete with it in size, simplicity, >sturdiness, functionality and usefulness. fully agree .. since the corvallis guys abandoned it .. now hp is abandoning hp .. so the h's and p's are doing something .. stopping hp from going the downhill path like everyone else Bob .. u do know something abt the dismantling of the Corvallis team .. the tragedy .. tell us a bit .. how to create another OPEN SOURCE team from that experience .. and Avi .. you too .. you too know abt the Corvallis geniuses .. and there are the geniuses at thaddeus and D&A .. i AM calling all these geniuses .. this is a tolerating good forum .. we all owe it to these good people to do something to make the idea of the lx into a permanent thing .. pk >And I won't mention the length of battery life ... THAT TOO ! :-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 06:01:23 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 7:10 AM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx >Several of the D&A Beta members and others here, are >surpassing many perceived limitations easily and simply, >extending the power and usability of the palmtop. >The best thing to do is listen and encourage these people to >talk. They are pushing their palmtops through amaing "walls", >and move on and on. Ask them to tell you what they do OK ! so here goes .. i AM asking those guys .. thru you AVI .. tell us all what they do .. the several members of D&A members .. Ý how sad i'm not one of them :-( ¨ > Helmuth >with his DataPerfect/WordPerfect etc. faxing, networking, and >usage of cellphone in conjunction with WWW/LX. and what more Helmuth ? >Hans Peter with >his use of RoboWeb to retrieve information he uses at work >(right?) to help him stay ahead of competition, and even ahead >of his own colleagues and Hans .. what is more that u r doing or have done that we should know more about ? >... Buddy users like Fred, Andreas, Fred, Andreas .. tell us all a bit more .. we deserve to know .. don't you think ? >and so on. yes, the unsung heroes of all times .. its not the sw for the hp lx only .. its the attitude .. the philosophy .. the effort .. to make things smaller .. yet better .. and go far beyond that last mile .. calling ALL you guys .. tell us about what you're upto .. were upto .. and would want to be upto .. ÝWe are missing out Daniel .. he's a big big asset .. and a new one .. its rare to find students of classics .. Daniel's web site is proof of his dedication to the powers of lx .. albeit told with the power of the pentiums :-) .. well done Daniel .. the only one that i know of who quickly got the kudos he deserved from THE Stefan Piechl ! ¨ I love and respect this group .. ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:11:29 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:02:19 +1300 (NZDT) 1 day 20h07m27s ago ... On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 13:54:52 +0200, David Becher wrote: > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days > ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) > and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: drive was all screwed > up. Maube consider another brand of NiMH? But, in any case you have a great backup method :) - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:47:52 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Offline reading. Without WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:26:13 +1300 (NZDT) 04h54m44s ago ... On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:31:29 -0800, Questor Jones wrote: > Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre > WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited > in it's trial version. HV.EXE is freeware and does not have a trial version. With HV you can read web pages on your palmtop. HV.EXE does not require WWW.EXE. "HV get.htm" from the commandline will display get.htm on the palmtop. > I guess what I am looking for is something that works > like ROBOWEB, but just dump content in Text format > (and importantly repairs the file names to be 8-dot-3 > compatible). ROBOWEB will dump HTML into text. It uses H2T.EXE for converting HTML to TXT. H2T.EXE is Freeware, and runs standalone. From the commandline "H2T.EXE get.htm get.txt" will dump get.htm into get.txt. Once you dump it to text I don't know how you intend to "link" it - it is just separate text files. Roboweb puts the texts in a single ascii file with headers containing threading information (a POST/LX inbox). > I figure theier must be some PC software out there > somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it. Seach on yahoo om "HTML2Text" - there is a company with precisely this product for Win32 - it also re-links HTML. Uses a binary state machine. Very fast. Looks an excellent product. Costs under $100. Just a one-off cost, not monthly or anything. Also you might get value from www.sitescooper.org. And there is avantgo - they specialise in providing HTML content that needs to be synchronised with a handheld. Our palmtop though - need not be "chained" to a desktop :) Good luck in your search! - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 11:02:52 +0100 Reply-To: radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Radek Svagr Subject: Re: Apacer CF & Double speed200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The card stays readable in a Single speed 200lx without any problem. When I try SRAM card and 10MB HP Flash card it works normally in my doublespeeded 200lx. So the problem is Apacer only and it is really sad. Seems that I have to go back to single speed 200lx. What error messages I get: - Filer: Drive not ready VC 4.0: Can't read the disk in drive A: I tried different versions of doublespeed drivers without sucess. Anyway I think card should work without driver. Radek fjkaufman@worldn et.att.net To: Radek Svagr/HRC/COMP/PHILIPS@EMEA1 HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu 2001-11-12 05:20 cc: (bcc: Radek Svagr/HRC/COMP/PHILIPS) PM Subject: Re: Apacer CF & Double speed200lx Classification: > Seems that I have a BIG problem. I just doublespeeded my 200LX using >Times2tech crystal. From that moment I cannot acess my 128MB Apacer CF >card! I quickly looked on their website - no drivers. I didn't need any >driver until now. Any suggestions? > I already had this problem on 200lx which I doublespeeded myself >using normal 32MHz crystal from radioshack, but I thought it was caused >by nonstandard crystal. Now with crystal from times2tech with DS31.EXE >driver installed I have the same problem. I don't have any answers but some questions that may help others help solve your problem: Did you test the card between those different crystals? Is it possible the card got messed up in the first crystal test? Is the card now readable in other devices? What error or errors do you get? What happens when you try reading the card? I have not heard of the double speed having any affect on cards. Good luck ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:17:57 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Dictionary program Comments: To: "sponsor@FTEL. NET" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whatever happened to that DOS based program Grammatik IV? Tony. > Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 14:40 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > From: sponsor@FTEL.NET (HPLX Mailing List) > Subject: RE: Dictionary program > > Bryan, > > I use American Heritage Dictionary v1.000 Copyright 1990-1992. Works > well and it is fast. I also have the Collins dictionary mentioned ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:18:25 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? Comments: To: Mike Cheponis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do you keep your palmtop in a protective case that keeps out dust? I'm interested because I do and I'd like to know if it makes much of a difference. Tony. > Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 17:12 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > From: mac@WIRELESS.COM (HPLX Mailing List) > Subject: RE: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? > > Bingo! > > Thanks very much. I removed the bottom four Torx machine screws and > wow was it dusty in there! Some isopropyl alcohol on all the > contacts, including the (very dirty) keyboard cable connection, was > all it took. > > Thanks all for the suggestions. Any piece of h/w that is supposed to > last a long time has got to be easy to repair, too. Seems like the > 200LX is. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:51:29 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >snip< From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG 700LX and 1000CX)!!! Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the list as although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need out of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore should not be forgotten. After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty 100/200's have come from? Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:07:49 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Re: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? Comments: To: Tony Kan In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, I don't use a protective case; I just carry it in my front right pocket. However, after seeing all the dust inside, I've put a piece of invisible tape over the PCMCIA slot (which contains my Flash card). I figure I'll need to dust it out every few years or so. -Mike On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tony Kan wrote: > Do you keep your palmtop in a protective case that keeps out dust? I'm > interested because I do and I'd like to know if it makes much of a > difference. > Tony. > > > Date: Tue 13-Nov-2001 17:12 > > Subject: RE: Keys: Tactile feedback but no electrical contact? > > wow was it dusty in there! Some isopropyl alcohol on all the ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:05:29 -0500 Reply-To: "M. Lennartz" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M. Lennartz" Subject: just another fax program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, from earlier DOS-times I have the "Transend"-package from Messiter Software {UK}. It includes a fax program with editor, viewer and so on. It works on the 200LX - just tested sending fax with Dr. Neuhaus-Modem = 28800. (german version 4.23 from 1992) I receive faxes from a fax-to-email-service {F2M} in Germany. It sends = received faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 05:00:49 -0800 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: When some buttons do not function... In-Reply-To: <010a01c16a4d$993ca8c0$6274c5cb@pksharmacal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ...you may need to tighten the screws which are hidden under the bumpons at the bottom of the palmtop. That's what I did. Fyi, Bulent __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:45:23 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Daily Backup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although I do a complete daily backup of my 200LX like this: 1. Via batch file copy drive_c onto 220mb SanDisk flashcard 2. Via batch file copy drive_d onto the same flashcard 3. Remove card from LX, insert it into laptop and copy entire flashdisk to a daily directory, ie LX111301.DIR 4. I keep a 7-day running backup of my LX on my laptop. My backup scheme is just a carryover from my accountant days where no one but a fool trusts data to a single repository. So I was thinking... LXBackup allows you to create any directory as the repository of= the backup, ie just type in 111301 for the date and that directory is created. Now, is there any utility out there that will scan the drives and make a list of the files with just today's date? Or, for those who don't do daily backups, files between a range of dates, say 11.01.01 thru 11.12.01? It seems like a full backup is only necessary occassionally, but data and= config files should be backed up daily. To be able to back them up into a directory by date seems ideal. Hence, all files dated 11.12.01 would be in the directory a:\111201\ Any ideas how to implement this? Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:51:50 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, on 12 Nov 2001 at 20:49 Bryan Biggers wrote about: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numb > > Most machines were sold to companies who gave it to people who > > many times did not use it at all. So there is probably a huge > > stash of them in the backs of corporate drawers ... > > > > This is true. A friend of mine who worked for a Certain Large > Company said that he could requisition them as "office supplies". > I'm not sure if he actually used it though. Bryan > a friend of me works for the austrian telecommunication company. They got the HP95, he has still one in use, but with a partly malfunctioning display. They have been around in larger quantities. Most of them ruined by people who did not know what they were good for. Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:26:36 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: CF card startup. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Daniel wrote: > You say the value of free disk space is saved somewhere while toe > machine isn't switched off. > > Could't we try to save this value everytime is is calculated in a > non-volatile place (DOS drive / file), so it could be retrieved after > powerdown/powerup with a shorter delay from a file instead of beeing > totally recalculated from the FAT? > > GTX > daniel Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > One the other hand, since I cannot stand wating so long, > I have always disabled this DOS service already for four > months. And last night my flash card was finally full. So, > this approach could be a provisorical solution before a better > one is implemented (Stefan!). The problem remains that we > cannot tell the people this be safe although this has not > caused a problem so far ... A proof would require checking > *all* compilers that they do not use this service for making > critical decision, and the habits of ASM-programmers count > too ... well, it's almost hopeless :) But I'll surely > keep disabling the 36h until ... Stefan! Hi Daniel, Hi Rudi, I think the proper way to look at this problem would be to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. You could leave function 36H alone. You would write a program to force the removable media changed status to indicate that nothing was changed. You would then be required to "mount" and "unmount" the card manually to update the status. Function 36H would (should) keep track of everything, just as if you hadn't turned the 200LX off. Most programs that I have seen just make the write to the disk and check for success. It is much faster and simpler than making a separate call to find the free space and then writing. So function 36H is not used as much as you might think it might need to be. What is the experience of other programmers? > Becasue I recall (again, vaguely, sorry) > that the file allocation strategy DOS uses is to find the first > free block from the beginning of the FAT and then the next free > block and so on. (This has little to do with the DOS 36h > service, but it also causes a major delay of the write-access, > somehow, also for the first time, the second write seems to > become must faster.) > But we cannot experiment ... how? All de-fragmentation > utilities I know move the used blocks to the beginning of the > disk. Well, I also wonder why they do that, and not the other > way, if I'm right about the allocation strategy of MSDOS > filesystem. Any idea? I think that a pointer is used to find the first free space, so that it does not matter if the free space is "up front". It should be just as fast no matter where it is. Even if a search must be made, it would not cause long delays. I think any delay would be caused by MS-DOS trying to keep track of any number of things. (Such as: Is this file redirected? Are you opening an already open file? Is this a valid device to open a file on? And so forth.) Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV. $ 0.02 Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:58:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: AN: HorizontalReader95 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm announcing a new freeware program that I've written for the HP 95LX (drumroll): HR95. It is a "horizontal reader" with some of the functionality of the great Vertical Reader program, but tailored to the 95LX's smaller screen. It displays screens of plain text files using the proportional HFN fonts, so you can get more than 40 characters per line, and it can display a variable number of lines, depending on the pixel height of the HFN font. It is command-line driven (meaning you invoke the program with the name of the text file). You can move forward and backwards through the text and place one bookmark. When you exit the program, it saves the page information, so the next time you open the text, it starts at the page you left off at. It does work on the 100/200LX (but I have not tested it myself, but Daniel has verified that it at least doesn't crash your 200LX). The main drawback, besides being command line driven, is that it only displays the standard ASCII characters between ASCII 32 (space) and ASCII 126 (tilde), so it is not as useful to European users as it might be. (The main reason I wrote it, though, is that I did not like the way VR split lines of text -- especially poetry -- and left out some carriage returns.) The zip file is 34KB and contains the exe, a readme, and a number of HFN fonts. I have sent a copy to S.U.P.E.R., but until it gets up there, send me an email (robert_feldman@jdedwards.com) and I can email you the file. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:13:29 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it is > sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE > machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA. > > The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I know > it is being done for iPAQ's). > Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone have this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:15:03 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX > > AFAIK it is identical between the machines. > > BTW, on both machines you can load a better font. > >> Also, jet black is cooler on the 100LX imho than olive drab on the = >> 200LX. > > Agree with you there! More disnguished looking. I know several > people who bought a 100LX just for the case ... > The black 100LX case is not only cooler, it doesn't seem to suffer the 200LX Hinge Crack Synndrome. Better plastic? different design? As for the other differences between the 100LX and the 200LX, the following is from the FAQ ( http://www.hplx.net/faq.faq.html ): "Q. What's the difference between the 100LX and the 200LX?" "- Pocket Quicken from Intuit has been added to the 200LX. This is a limited version of the Quicken financial management software sold for MS-DOS and Windows. It does not use the same file format as Quicken for DOS or Windows, but if you buy the 200LX connectivity kit, you can share data with the full DOS or Windows version of Quicken (Windows version through 3.0). Pocket Quicken Connect, if you can find it, will allow you to share data with newer versions of Windows Quicken. Like the 100LX, the 200LX can also run the full version of Quicken for DOS, which is more powerful but not as convenient to access.) "- The DataComm application is faster in the 200LX. It can pretty much keep up with a 9600 or 14.4 modem. The painfully slow DataComm application was a notorious deficiency in the 100LX, so this is a welcome fix. " - The case has changed color, from the black 100LX to a slate grey color for the 200LX. The keyboard layout has changed slightly, in order to give Pocket Quicken its own dedicated key. The labels on the keycaps have a slightly different, italic, look to them. "- The default topcard (picture displayed when the machine is turned on, and the system manager is running, but no apps are yet activated) looks different. "- There is an extra megabyte of ROM (3MB in the 200LX, vs 2MB in the 100LX). This is how they managed to add the new built-in software to the 200LX without deleting any of the old 100LX features. "- There is a power-on "global" password feature. "- Some extra goodies have been added to the d:\bin drive (in ROM). Hearts & Bones and Lair of the Squid are two games that are included. A hexadecimal calculator is also included. "- LapLink Remote has replaced the redirector for use with the connectivity pack. "- The appointment manager has a daily pop-up message reminding users of "to do's" and appointments. "- The on-line help has been improved. "- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card" or the 100LX-style "form" format. "- Support for flash cards is improved. "- Hardware is much more easily upgradable." Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:21:53 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. 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CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HP Staber Wrote: > I have played with my J720 for three months > now. Since two weeks it is sitting in a corner > collecting dust. The applications for WinCE > machines are almost useless if you really rely > on a PDA. > > The only interesting development will be Linux > on such machines (I know it is being done for > iPAQ's). When I retired I considered taking up bird watching but instead I chose linux-devotee watching. Their cries can be heard all over the internet. Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or few linux applications written for it will improve said machine, I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees. What strange and improbable creatures they are! :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:55:43 +0100 Reply-To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" Organization: www.Compuseum.de Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the list as > although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need out > of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore should not > be forgotten. That's right. My 95lx does everything I want a portable computer to do. No fancy Icons, no colorful WinCe-crap, just a small thing that helps me along and reminds me of "ye good ole times"Ýtm¨ regads, Oliver P.S.: The only two things that suck on the 95lx are the small display that makes it almost impossible to use unadapted software and the crippled graphics (I would love to produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:09:49 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > I've just check my C-programs which were compiled by > Turbo C v2.0. They behave also very well. The C-function > used was fopen() and fprintf(). But, again, I cannot say > anything about a e.g. Fortran compiler that I don't know. I have the source for the TC 2.0 runtime libraries and I used grep to check for 36h. That function is only used in the function getdfree(). That's no guarantee, of course. Other functions might call some Dos function that uses function 36h. I haven't done anything like this for a long time, being retired. But it seems to me that an isr to disable that one function would only be a few bytes long. The setup code would be longer but that could be discarded. All it has to do that I can think of is monitor int 21h and check for a 36h in AH and if it finds it do an iret and if not, let 21h do it's thing. Unless I've forgotten something that shouldn't be more than 40 or 50 bytes and probably less. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:35 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:03:16 -0800, Avi Meshar wrote: > I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection > between OB800CT with Win95 and the Palmtop. Here is a summary: > > 1. Enabled IR in the Setting. It wants to talk over COM1. > > 2. Loaded IR.COM in a DOS workarea in the Palmtop. > > 3. Command line input: > > IR oput c:\xyz.pqr supposed to send the file >Ý...¨ Yes, what you did is trying to establish a real IrDA connection. This fails probably because IR.EXE is meant to talk to phones and maybe printers, but Andreas said it will not work with every IrDA device, since it doesn't implement the full IrDA standard. What Martin Diehl and I are trying currently is to find a way to modify the vlsi_ir driver (the OB800's Ir chip is a VLSI one) in a way that it uses plain SIR for communication and thus doesn't use all that IrDA connection handling and data overhead. Martin has sent me a first hack, which works for a few bytes already, then locks the whole OB so that it needs a reset. But we are still trying. Martin is a very kind person and promised to spend a little more time with this. It will probably take some weeks or months more until we come up with a really working solution. There are more problems that it seems. I have offered Martin one of my spare 200LXs for testing. We'll see if he agrees. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:36 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony, On Tue, 6 Nov 2001 23:40:00 +1300, Tony Hutchins wrote: > > I sometimes get a timeout error in line 84 of phone.scr when > > PUTting my phone book. seems that the phone doesn't answer > > "OK" because the number which is to be transferred doesn't > > match some rules. Do you know these rules? > > No, but was the text part long? > Just when putting to the ME? Maybe it's best to write to the > "SM" only then make the T39 itself transfer the SIM phonebook > to the ME - a cunning trick But not suitable if you want to upload more than 100 numbers. I currently make all my trials with my HPLX phone book, which has about 410 entries with phone numbers. So the way with the card is not doable for me. ;-) > Should be OK with or wothout the "+". Maybe the T39 uses a new > syntax for the "Write Phone Book Entry" command? > > This is the phone.scr line - > > send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r > > you could try without any $n2 What is this $n2? I'll try later - just would like to know first what I'm doing. > Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character > set)!!! mine doesn't either. My old Siemens S35 didn't, too. So maybe it's Nokia specific? > Oh! I just looked up the PBW on page 108 of that T39 AT command > list and they explicitly say that for ME writing the T39 > *interprets* the text as lastname,firstname. So, we have an > explanation for that one :) For SM writing it assumes the > opposite. Don't ask me why! :-¨ Okay, but I sent to ME and I have the entries in the format Lastname,Firstname. So it should be okay, but it isn't. Strange! > There might be something tricky about the "+" and the type - > that's why I suggest leaving out that $n2 above - this forces > the phone to use its default. BTW its defaults are different > to the old days in fact, yes there is the problem I think. But, > too complicated for me to explain. They have a new type of 161 > - we only used 129 and 145 in the script. That's this "type"? Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:37 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Roger On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." wrote: > Check this site out, > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 > 25252520tech.htm > But it is very slow. WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the images. How did they get the Application manager into that device? What are the specs? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 09:59:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From another web site I found using Google, The instant Tech PTV-30 was made around 1995, so, unfortunately, it is no a currently available unit. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:39 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Hi Roger On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." wrote: > Check this site out, > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 > 25252520tech.htm > But it is very slow. WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the images. How did they get the Application manager into that device? What are the specs? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:10:55 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - , which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in the ram to dial to the internet. It's very difficult to delete. 1) 'Editing' the inbox 2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and can be deleted with the whole folder. Has anyone made similar experiences? Klaus ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:37:52 -0000 Reply-To: "Brown, William D" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William D" Subject: Re: Outlook to HPLX converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It works for me, though I have not made it all do what I want. I have not rationalised my contacts adequately yet, and I did manage to swap first and last names for everyone the other day. I use the columnar views in Outlook to make it easy to clean up the data. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:36:58 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone have > this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't? > Somehow, Lotus Notes munged the URL for the above. (Sorry for the garbage, folks.) To see the Linux DA, visit: http://www.linuxda.com/store/infopda.html Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:34:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For translations of web pages from Japanese, try http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html. The results I obtained there when I asked it to convert this page http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm to English were (-ahem-) rough, but serviceable. Alan Striegel > From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE¨ > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:39 AM > > Check this site out, > > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 > > 25252520tech.htm > > But it is very slow. > > WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the > images. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:32:36 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Sample Backup System Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A Sample Batch Driven Backup System For the xxLX I went ahead and modified a backup program I wrote years ago for= an accounting firm. Their's was a 7-day rotational system of Sun= thru Sat taking files from a PC onto various backup mediums like= tape drives, zip drives and jazz drives. In the version below I simply implemented SED.exe to create a directory based on the date, ie 11132001.DIR into which is copied the complete contents of a Type I, II or III pc/ATA card (pcmcia) or a cf card. This then creates a simple 2-step backup for the 100/200 LX. I've tested the two batch files a few times to rule out any critical errors. In each instance a total of 2756 files were copied successfully in each direction. Anyone who wants these batch files ready-made along with the required SED program, contact me off-list at bob@palmtop.com and I will gladly email the BU.ZIP file to you. NOTE: THIS ASSUMES THAT YOUR PC CARD HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO HOLD ALL THE FILES ON YOUR DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ON YOUR PALMTOP. Here's how it all works. Step One - ON THE LX PALMTOP: Place the following batch file on the palmtop pcmcia card's root= directory. This batch file copies all of the palmtop's Drive C and Drive D onto the flashcard/cf media (the pcmcia drive E will= be seen as drive A by the LX) ***** @rem BEGIN BATCH FILE THAT RESIDES ON PCMCIA CARD =09@echo off D:\DOS\assign E =3D A A: =09CD\ if not exist DRIVE_C MD DRIVE_C if not exist DRIVE_D MD DRIVE_D CD DRIVE_C D:\dos\xcopy.exe C:\*.* A:\DRIVE_C\*.* /S /V /E CD.. CD DRIVE_D D:\dos\xcopy.exe D:\*.* A:\DRIVE_D\*.* /S /V /E @ECHO OFF =09@ECHO YOUR PALMTOP'S DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ARE NOW BACKED UP =09@PLEASE MOVE THE PCMCIA CARD TO YOUR DESKTOP OR LAPTOP SYSTEM @rem end of batch file ***** STEP TWO - ON THE DESKTOP OR LAPTOP SYSTEM: This batch file gets installed in the root directory of the disk= on the desktop or laptop onto which you want to copy the files that now reside on the pcmcia card. NOTE: Requires SED.EXE in C:\LX subdirectory (or change the directory name inside the batch file to one of your choosing). This batch file calls on SED.EXE to create a subdirectory based on today's date, ie 11132001.DIR for Nov 13, 2001. As it creates= the directory it also creates these files: TMP BAT 57 11-13-01 12:28p tmp.bat CURRENT BAT 14 11-13-01 12:28p current.bat This is how the dated directory appears, once created 11132001 11-13-01 12:21p 11132001 NOTE: This batch file assumes you're running Windows 9x on the desktop or laptop. If not, edit the last line of this batch file. **** =09@rem Begin The desktop/laptop batch file: =09@echo off =09echo.|date|sed "s/-//g" > tmp.bat =09echo set today=3D%%4> current.bat =09call tmp.bat =09echo Todays date is Ý%today%¨ =09if not exist %today% mkdir %today% =09cd %today% =09copy c:\lx\*.* =09\windows\command\xcopy e:\*.* c:\lx\%today%\*.* /S /V /E @rem end of batch file **** Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Greystone PCMCIA CardDock assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friends, I purchased a Greystone Model GS-220M CardDock of eBay recently. Everything looked great and installation seemed to go OK. I just can't figure out why it won't "mount" my Sandisk cards as drives. When I open the PCMCIA icon in the systray it shows the card there as a Sandisk ATA Flashdisk but a drive letter is not being assigned to it. When I plug in a modem, the modem is recognized immediately as well. I have to admit that I haven't rounded up the drivers so that I could test the modem in the desktop though. Any hints on what I missed. Oh yes, OS is Win ME (YUCK). Thanks, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:53:14 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20011113082710.1b67cdd0@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> from Steve at "Nov 13, 1 09:26:36 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steve, > I think the proper way to look at this problem would be > to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. You > could leave function 36H alone. You would write a program > to force the removable media changed status to indicate > that nothing was changed. You would then be required to > "mount" and "unmount" the card manually to update the status. > Function 36H would (should) keep track of everything, just > as if you hadn't turned the 200LX off. I just love the two words "mount" and "unmount"! My feeling is that too many automaticity (sp?) bring trouble. (I've been trying to spread my idea of changing all Microsoft Windows execution-access to a file to a *triple-click*, but no one seems ot be interested ... I have been claiming that it be a mistake from the beginning that Windows does not differntiate read/write- access from execution-access, because the homo sapiens is simply not yet in the position to ignore the diff. between them and replace them with a single concept called "open" ... :( but it's irrelevant now and I'm carried away ...) But, on the other hand, they're using so-called auto-mounter nowadays too on UNIX boxes. I think I would be interested in trying that. I'll be highly appreciated if any technical details are directed to me in any way! Hmmm. would it be a fixed address? and ... would it be easy ...? Since the palmtop initializes a bunch of things on powering on/off, so I'll have to hook to the power-on signal. I've never communicate with the card servicce yet, but I know at least Stefan and many more are at home about this if it is necessary. And wait a second. I've tried something today while I was drinkin my Coffee. That's about the reloading of COMMAND.COM which has been conformed by Russ in another post. I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop because I thought it is big and should overwrite the shell. But it did not. That is, the "saved information" of free disk space did not get lost after loading and quitting MATLAB. Then I started NDD (Norton disk doctor, a very old version). This one (NDD) overwrote the information, or, at least, the "36h" needed a re-computation again upon "DIR". So, we are sure now, not only the media-changed-flag should be taken care of, but also "this". And this, so far as I'm aware, has nothing to do with a media-change, because I merely started NDD, did nothing, and then quit NDD. This would be important because we'd better have the TSR *interrupt-driven* rather than "polling" actively some location regularily by hooking to the timer. What a waste of CPU-time! The difference would not be so significant, but it is quite important for me at least psychologically when hacking a TSR. Hooking to the power-on/off could be made interrupt driven (I recall having seen such a hook on the Developer's Guide). > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to > the disk and check for success. It is much faster and > simpler than making a separate call to find the free space > and then writing. So function 36H is not used as much as > you might think it might need to be. What is the experience > of other programmers? I think I'll have to repost the question again to an assemler-programming group on Usenet. I've posted once to comp.lang.asm.x86 but I could not found it again on http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search (best Usenet search-engine I know! Don't worry, no Ad's!) I got the impression that this group is moderated. Maybe my article never have shown up in the group. So, it'd be worth trying it again. > I think that a pointer is used to find the first free space, > so that it does not matter if the free space is "up front". It > should be just as fast no matter where it is. Even if a search > must be made, it would not cause long delays. (... snip, so that I won't have to split the post again!) Yes, yes. I think you're right. I'm slowly refreshed, that the directory entries contain pointers to, ..., one-directional linked list in FAT (?). Now, that's for read-access of an existing file. What about a file-creation? I mean, how does a new file get allocated? I thought that DOS scanned for one free block. But you mean a pointer is used? Wait, are the free blocks also linked as a list? And where are the pointers saved. > Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set > BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV. Steve, could you please do a review on the use of "BUFFER"? I've never undertsand that and just have some number there in my config.sys :( And smartdrv, have you tried that? Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:08:06 -0700 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Dictionary program Comments: To: tony.kan@CLEAR.NET.NZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Grammatik and its maker, a company whose name I escapes me at the moment, were purchased by WordPerfect Corp. in about 1993. Wordperfect later merged with Novell (about 1995?), and then most of the WordPerfect products were later sold off to Corel (in about 1998?), who now makes WordPerfect. Grammatik is still included in WordPerfect for Windows as the grammar-checking facility in the famous word processor. DOS versions are no longer sold, but may be available at stores that sell older software and at on-line auctions like eBay. I'm pretty sure that WordPerfect/DOS is also Y2K compliant, as long as you use 4-digit years. Regards, Richard Tony Kan wrote: > Whatever happened to that DOS based program Grammatik IV? > > Tony. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:43:31 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve wrote: > I think the proper way to look at this problem would be > to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive. Mack, are you listening? The idea to keep the free disk space at a separate place and feed it to every (dummy) call of the 36h function does not convince me, because the value will be false after the first copy or delete command. Then I prefer to see just 0 bytes free as a reminder, that the value is not true. > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to > the disk and check for success. So do I Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:29:59 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET In-Reply-To: <000901c16c5d$9f509020$05fe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Nov 13, 1 10:09:49 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have the source for the TC 2.0 runtime libraries and I used > grep to check for 36h. That function is only used in the > function getdfree(). Baryy, It's exciting to hear that! Thanks! ;) But where did you get the source from? I thought that Borland just abandoned the binary. Have you worked for them? > That's no guarantee, of course. Other functions might call some > Dos function that uses function 36h. > I haven't done anything like this for a long time, being > retired. But it seems to me that an isr to disable that one > function would only be a few bytes long. The setup code would > be longer but that could be discarded. > All it has to do that I can think of is monitor int 21h and > check for a 36h in AH and if it finds it do an iret and if not, > let 21h do it's thing. > Unless I've forgotten something that shouldn't be more than 40 > or 50 bytes and probably less. Yes, I agree. In fact, I'm always aware of you while I was lurking around. :) But no, I did not intend to use a 3KB-TSR (IC.COM) for this sole purpose, but it is made general purpose capable of any (exept few special ones) interrupt and some more registers and more features, unloadable, using multiplex, multi-copy installable. .... It's also usable for disabling some annoying message from the palmtop. I'd better make some more AD since I think it is a very useful utility for myself. But I hesitate to post it to super because I'll have to write more warnings than the actual doc's. :) But, it does not worth for ASM-programmers to write such things again just for some tests, becasue it's already there, and importantly, debugged (while one never knows! :). Nothing new but comfortable user-interface for myself. Oh, yes. The most annoying part of such things is *always* the parsing of the syntax, options, command-line arguments, numbers. But I've used only hexa for input. I've even made a flow-chart. Don't know from where I've stolen the time for this ... =============== | ISRXX Entry | +-------------+ | ------------------ No ( Is TSR enabled? )----->-------------+ ------------------ | | | ------------------------ No | ( Are Register and Port/ ) -------->---| ( Hornet values matched? ) ----------------------- | | | ----------------- Yes | ( /s (silence) ? ) ------>-+ | ----------------- | v | | | +--------------+ | | | Click Buzzer | | | +--------------+ | | | | | No ------------------- | | +<------( /f (flip video)? )<------+ | | ------------------- | | | | | +--------------+ | | | Flip Video | | | +--------------+ | | | | | ----------------- No | +------>( /a (alarm) ? ) ------>-+ | ----------------- | | | | | +--------------+ | | | Int 4Ah | | v +--------------+ | | | | | No ------------------- | | +<------( /e (Send EOI)? )<------+ | | ------------------- | | | | | +--------------+ | | | EOI -> 8259 | | | +--------------+ | | | v | ---------------- No -------------- No +------>( /t (Trap) ? ) ------>----->( /n (set AL)? )--->--+ ---------------- -------------- | | Yes | | +------------+ +--------------+ | | IRET | | AL = 1 | | ============== +--------------+ | | v +-------+ | | Chain | <-------+ ========= Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:31:15 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: TEST linux-kmail Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit aaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:32:15 -0600 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Greystone PCMCIA CardDock assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Penick wrote: yes, OS is Win ME (YUCK). > Thanks, > bob Maybe you don't have a free interrrupt for the drive. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:14:39 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: How to type French accents MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Akio, This came up before. Dr Nathalie Bugeaud, M.D., France, enlightened me, and I passed it on to the list in August of 2000. Her instructions from that e-mail are pasted in below. Take a bow Nathalie Richard Nathalie wrote: "everything works on the LX, just try Fn r (followed by the letter on which you want the acute accent) Fn t ( ditto ........................................... ditto the grave accent ) Fn e ) Fn a ) these give the accented letters directly etc Fn u, the 2 points ( diaeresis); Fn i, the tilde Fn y e (for the circonflex on e) Fn y a ditto Fn y i etc. Fn y o Fn y u (And, re Windows French keyboard) ok, to get the circonflex you have to use the "¬" next to the "p" once and then the letter (eoau) to get jtb{ j b the single ¬ is ctrl+alt+9 have fun, Nathalie" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 20:43:17 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA alkalines. I never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many crashes and many hard resets I had with NiMH. Richard David Becher wrote: > Avi Meshar writes: > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around > > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:17:21 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: just another fax program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Michael On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 06:05:29 -0500, "M. Lennartz" wrote: > from earlier DOS-times I have the "Transend"-package from Messiter > Software {UK}. It includes a fax program with editor, viewer and so on. > It works on the 200LX - just tested sending fax with Dr. Neuhaus-Modem 28800. > (german version 4.23 from 1992) would you mind sharing this piece of software? > faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? With the view.exe program which comes with bgfax (on SUPER). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:17:21 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bruce On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:15:03 -0500, Bruce Martin wrote: > The black 100LX case is not only cooler, it doesn't seem to suffer the > 200LX Hinge Crack Synndrome. Better plastic? different design? oh well.... unfortunately it does. I have a 100LX here which shows first signs of the hinge crack. Sorry if I disappoint the 100LX fans. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:22:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: TEST linux-kmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Klaus On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 21:31:15 +0100, Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > aaaaaaaaaa > > aaaaaaaaaaaaaa > > aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa _VERY_VERY_ interesting! You asked me to send a test message from my Linux Netspace Messenger and I did so about one hour ago. It didn't appear here. So this seems to be the source of your problems, your message written with kmail arrives. Are here others using Netscape Messenger version 4.77 or 4.67 for posting to the list? Windows or Linux versions? And known problems? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:33:31 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Becher wrote: > >I wrote > > >HP Staber wrote > > >You must not be paranoid and you have to save your work frequently = when > > >you do this though :) > > > > It is not paranoia, that is reserved for those people who constantly = follow > > me . In the case of low batteries, it is anxiety, as I wrote. I = am > > simply uninterested in losing data, and the exciting life one leads = chasing > > old data to restore etc. I'd rather get my excitement in other ways. > > > > Thanks for the advice to save, frequently, but you forget my middle = name > > "Avi BACKUP Meshar"! It is like preaching to the priest > > > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was = running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden = the FAT of my C: > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, = and typed > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped = backup on > drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. Total = lost > info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written = down > anyway. You are VERY lucky the loss was not more extensive. Maybe not, though! Your backup is good to minimize the losses. > David (Gibuy) Becher For those of you who do not speak Hebrew as fluently as David and I, "gibuy" in Hebrew means "backup" ... I learned my early IT skills in Israel, the hard way - losing data left and right. Then, magically, I was introduced to gibuy - what a concept! ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:33:37 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Corrupt FAT (was: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HP Staber wrote: > David Becher wrote: > > Avi Meshar writes: > > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > > > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is = around > > > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > > > > > Too dangerous. Sorry, I think this not good advise, Hans-Peter. = We'll have > > > a bunch of people losing data now because they push batteries waaay = too low. > > > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was = running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden > the FAT of my C: > > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, = and typed > > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. I then restored it all from the zipped = backup on > > drive a:(after changing batteries). Total lost time: 10 minutes. = Total lost > > info: one new phone number in the address book -which I had written = down > > anyway. > > That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should > type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just > hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual. That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt. That means rebooting will most likely hang up because the machine cannot find where the files and drivers are. You can easily check to see: If a DIR shows you have a huge amount of space of the drives - oh, in the gigabyte range - your FAT is mooshed and toasted. A plain reboot will get you nowhere. Restoration of the C: drive, drivers, files and so on is in order. Avi M. > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:33:27 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve, I just finished one life cycle of Lithiums on my main palmtop, measuring with ABC/LX. Indeed I got 58 hours on the battery using ABC/LX to count (yes, it matches with Buddy... authors cooperated.) I then tried something. I want to start with a WARNING!!! It is dangerous to do what I did. This can cause the batteries to EXPLODE with damages to anything around them: Palmtop, person(s), furniture etc. I tried to charge these batteries using the trickle charging setting in the Palmtop. The palmtop remained relatively cool, as did the batteries. The cycle of recharging took about 1-2 hours and voltage went from 2.40V or even lower, to 3.30V. Once the adapter was disconnected, the voltage dropped almost immediately to 3.03V or so, then started declining. Each time I charged like this, I got anywhere from 50 minutes to about 70 minutes of additional service. All in all over three or so weeks, I went through multiple such cycles. The total time on batteries measured by ABC/LX was about 175 hours, in increments of 50 to 70 minutes for each trickle charge cycle. This lends _some_ credibility to the belief that lithiums can be recharged. I am sure they cannot be recharged with the palmtop, and need some specialized device. Besides, I am not sure if the little bit of additional time (even if one hour) is worth it. I noticed that the drops in voltage to the point of uselessness were rather precipitous after recharges. In fresh batteries I can usually count on one hour when the voltage reaches 2.45V. But with recharged batteries, there is only about 15 minutes before tha batteries are not useful anymore (the palmtop shuts down.) Again: WARNING!!! It is dangerous to do what I did. This can cause the batteries to EXPLODE with damages to anything around them: Palmtop, person(s), furniture etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:33:41 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: TDK or Kernel modem cards Comments: To: Cri MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine. I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:17:06 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: phonebook synchronization and ROBOT.EXE confusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:43:55 +1300 (NZDT) 05h05m19s ago ... On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:36 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 410 entries with phone numbers. So the way with the card > is not doable for me. ;-) Oops I forgot about the card limit :( > > send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",$n2,"$it"\r > > > > you could try without any $n2 > > What is this $n2? I don't know I just read about it in a book. Don't have my T39 AT PDF file here at the moment. $n2 is normally a number denoting the type of the phone number. send AT+CPBW=$n1,"$c2",,"$it"\r That might work - otherwise we need to change the phone.scr > > Indeed - and my T39 does not support +CSCS (select TE Character > > set)!!! > > mine doesn't either. My old Siemens S35 didn't, too. > So maybe it's Nokia specific? Also T39 doesn't do text SMS. Actually there is a +CSCS. > > - we only used 129 and 145 in the script. > > That's this "type"? Phone number type I think. They seem to have 3 types with weird numbers like 129,145,161! One type has the + in front. One doesn't. I don't know what the other type is, but it's in the AT PDF under AT+CPBW - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:18:53 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie In-Reply-To: <3BF185E4.A6892CA3@gofree.indigo.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I apologise if I sound a bit ignorant here but I haven't used NIMH batteries before. So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop? Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Richard E. McEvoy Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2001 9:43 a.m. To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA alkalines. I never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many crashes and many hard resets I had with NiMH. Richard David Becher wrote: > Avi Meshar writes: > > At 11/10/01 +0100, you wrote: > > >I use NiMHydrid batteries from Thaddeus. Their peak level is around > > >2.75 V and I run them frequently down to 2.1 - 2.2 Volt's. > > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:32:51 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel Rotherham wrote: > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted > to add 'HP95LX' to the list as although now very > much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what > I need out of a portable system (and I guess for > countless others) and therefore should not be > forgotten. For programming the keyboard is much more logical on the 95lx than the later models. It's far easier to use in Dos. The problem is the screen size. I once started writing a screen driver that programs could use to make the 40x16 the natural size of the screen. Forget all that windowing nonsense. In the back of my mind was the idea to use that driver to write an editor and debugger that also treated the screen line a 40x16 screen. Then I got a 100lx and that all got abandoned. Oh well. :) I still keep thinking one day I'll do my own complete development system on the 95 starting only with debug and building it from scratch. I once saw an assembler that worked by redirecting things through debug, which it ran in a shell, translating labels to addresses as it went along. An entire development system could be built around that principle. I guess at this point I'm not too likely to ever do it. But who knows. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:38:36 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use Lithiums, but only in winter. Early in my LX ownership I forgot and left my LX (loaded with alkalines) in the car on a fairly cold night. I had to go back to my last backup the next day! The alkalines recovered when warmed up. The data didn't! The Lithiums continue to produce most of their power near or below 0 degrees (Farenheit anyway). And yes it does get kinda cold here in South Carolina some winter nights! bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 17:03:56 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote: > The only two things that suck on the 95lx > are the small display that makes it almost > impossible to use unadapted software and > the crippled graphics (I would love to > produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....) I played around with GWbasic on my 95lx when I first got it. Maybe with Qbasic, too, but I'm not sure now. In any case it shouldn't be hard to write an assembly module to pass control to int 5Fh to use the built in 95lx graphics. You wouldn't be able to use the Basic graphics, which are more powerful. But you could still do a lot. And new graphic features could also be added to that module. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 18:23:59 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The connectivity pack does look and feel like the LX except that it does not "wake up" a machine or run an alarm if it is not loaded. It also will not run for me as a window so that I can minimize it and work on something else. It includes Filer, Appointments, Phonebook, Notetaker, Database, Memo, Setup, HPCalc, DOS prompt, & Xlate/merge. It does not include Lotus 123, Quicken, World Time, Datacomm, Laplink, cc Mail, or Stopwatch, but it will allow you to add new icons so that you can add other applications to the taskbar. Thaddeus usually has a copy and it shows up on eBay somewhat regularly. Hope this helps, bob LOL - My spellchecker thought "HPCalc" should be "Phallic" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tralornik" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: HP connectivity pack > Does the connectivity pack emulate the HPLX's System Manager as well as have > the DOS versions of the built-in Apps. > > I mean when you run the Connectivity Pack on a Desktop machine, does it look > just like the HP LX palmtop, with all the icons, etc? > > Also, If you run it on a portable machine, do the alarm cause the machine to > turn on so they work? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 19:32:08 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: For Sale==> Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications - Cool MiniNote 386 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I actually have one of these that I may be putting up for auction soon. (MiniNote 386 & AC Adaptor- also runs on 4AA Baterries, Runs DOS 5.0) Unless of course, someone gives a really good offer for it. (But it doesn't have the LX apps running on it, that will be left upto the buyer). http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm > -----Original Message----- > WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the > images. > How did they get the Application manager into that device? > What are the specs? > > GTX > daniel > > > -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:21:46 +0800 Reply-To: "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The machine is too big compare to HP200LX, it has almost the same hardware spec as HP200LX. Here are the details: CPU V30 7.16Mhz=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1= @=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@. Memory ROM 1.5MB, RAM 2MB Display CGA 640 x 200 dot Keyboard=A1@=A1@ Qwerty 82 Key Battery AA x 2 CR 2025 I/O =BC=D0=B7=C7=A1@ Serial & Pararel OS MS-DOS 5.0 PCMCIA Type 2 x 2 Size 235 x 116 x 31 mm Weight 600 g Built-in MS work 2.0 - and thus very little memory left for user. Compare to HP200lx, the baterry life is short (I'd bought one used for 20US), too big, too heavy and no numeric keypad. Booting process from any memory card is slow. It has 2 PCMCIA slots - but it doesn't recognize my 8M CARRY PCMCIA memory card, the 48M Sandisk is ok. bigger key size - but can't do thumb typing. The screen you saw is the CPack running on that machine, according to the author it is slow. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > Hi Roger > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." wrote: > > > Check this site out, > > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 > > 25252520tech.htm > > But it is very slow. > > WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) Just see the > images. > How did they get the Application manager into that device? > What are the specs? > > GTX > daniel > > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:47:16 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Klaus, which Email program do you use? Werner On 13 Nov 2001 at 19:10, Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - , > which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in > the ram to dial to the internet. > It's very difficult to delete. > 1) 'Editing' the inbox > 2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and > can be deleted with the whole folder. > > Has anyone made similar experiences? > > Klaus > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:47:16 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: just another fax program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, On 13 Nov 2001 at 6:05, M. Lennartz wrote: > > I receive faxes from a fax-to-email-service {F2M} in Germany. It sends > received faxes as tiff-files. How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? > that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a solution? Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:46:48 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: horizontal reader Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16C5A.67B8B820" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16C5A.67B8B820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi ! good work yes, send me the file .. i'll try it out too ! .. pk ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16C5A.67B8B820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C16C5A.67B8B820-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:18:15 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: TDK or Kernel modem cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 11/13/01 10:23 pm Avi & All: I use a TDK "CyberExpress 3000" 33.6kbps MODEM. You cannot insert w/ the LX on(immediatly draws too much current and enters "backup mode"), but if palmtop is off when card is inserted, all is fine...if it only had an "X-Jack"! Cheers...AJKind Avi Wrote: > The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine. > > I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the > modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop > won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an > exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not > in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE. > > Avi M. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:37:14 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 11 Nov 2001 05:16:47 +0530, pksharma wrote: > (I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ? > and what is an 1000CX ?) I had one but sold it when I bought the Hp200lx..now I will try to get another one just for the hell of it :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:48:25 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: CF card startup. In-Reply-To: <163jSh-0ZTJA0C@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo, I don't like the idea redirect the 36h function. It is used to find existing drives, and when the redirection has a small error, then some programs will not work properly. In Turbo Pascal the diskfree-function returns -1, if the drive doesn't exists. I think, in assembler the function works exactly the same way. When you set the diskfree-dummy to 0 (zero), then you can't copy anything to C:. A copy-program should check for free disk space. > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to > the disk and check for success. ??? Not a good manner. But not, if you only want to see, if a drive exists. This solution doesn't work on read-only drives (CDROM, network-drives with ro-mode). Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- Steve wrote: > I think the proper way to look at this problem would be > to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive. Mack, are you listening? The idea to keep the free disk space at a separate place and feed it to every (dummy) call of the 36h function does not convince me, because the value will be false after the first copy or delete command. Then I prefer to see just 0 bytes free as a reminder, that the value is not true. > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to > the disk and check for success. So do I Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:59 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Offline reading. Without WWW/LX Comments: To: Questor Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Questor Jones wrote: > Is thier anything that does that that does NOT requre > WWW/LX, HV.EXE, or any other software that is limited > in it's trial version. HV is NOT limited. It is freeware, and always was freeware. You can download on the desktop, move to Palmtop and read HTML docs on the palmtop with HV. However, it does not support Java, Javascript, and so on. > I respect the efforts of those > that created those programs, but I shell out $$ every > month for an online connection and don't want to have > to spend another $80 so I can use my LX to read web > content, since it will never have a modem attached to > it and I will therefore never get the full value form > the software. The way you have it set up, it would be indeed a folly to buy WWW/LX Version 3. BTW, just in case, the $$ are spent once, not monthly, and you can use (very likely) the connection of the ISP you use on the desktop. > I figure theier must be some PC software out there > somewhere that does this, but I have yet to find it. There are shareware programs, e.g. NetTamer, and freeware, i.e. LXTCP and probably others you can set up on the palmtop to connect to the Internet and download Web content. Good luck. Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:39 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Avi, > > I have experimented somewhat and have made _some_ connection Ý...¨ > Yes, what you did is trying to establish a real IrDA connection. > This fails probably because IR.EXE is meant to talk to phones and maybe > printers, but Andreas said it will not work with every IrDA device, > since it doesn't implement the full IrDA standard. Yes, understood. I just wanted to let you know how far I have gone, and to demonstrate that the two machines _could potentially_ talk, since they recognized each other. They sort of did some shaky handshaking ... > What Martin Diehl and I are trying currently is to find a way to modify > the vlsi_ir driver (the OB800's Ir chip is a VLSI one) in a way that it > uses plain SIR for communication and thus doesn't use all that IrDA > connection handling and data overhead. That is delightful. I am so pleased to see that this continues as an effort. Thank you and thank Martin. > But we are still trying. Martin is a very kind person and promised to > spend a little more time with this. Agree, he is kind to do this. > It will probably take some weeks or months more until we come up with a > really working solution. There are more problems that it seems. Whatever time it takes, it is welcome. > I have offered Martin one of my spare 200LXs for testing. We'll see if > he agrees. ;-) Should have offered him your spre OB too! ... I will be happy to test what Martin produces, because I could use such a connectivity. I wonder though, if it would also be reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800? Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:46 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nigel, OOPS!!! Sorry. I did not mean to slight the HP95LX by omitting it. Just a mistake. I used it once or twice, never owned it. I no longer own an OG 700LX, but have at least one of each 100LX, 200LX, and 1000CX. Sorry. Avi M. Nigel Rotherham wrote: > >snip< From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX = and OG > 700LX and 1000CX)!!! > > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the = list as > although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I = need out > of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore = should not > be forgotten. After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your = trusty > 100/200's have come from? > > Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:42 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Richard, Your experience with crashes is so diametrically opposite to mine! I do not have crashes with NiMH or NiCds - almost none. But also not with Alkalines or Lithiums. What crashes I have are hardly attributable to batteries. And still, I do not do any scientific exhaustive power extrication from them, just apply some common-sense rules to usage, and that's it. I want to take this opportunity to thank everyone who replied to my questions in this thread. This has been really instructive and valuable for me. Thank you all! Avi M. Richard E. McEvoy wrote: > Since I gave up using Nicads and NiMH's over a year ago I haven't had a = single crash. I leave the LX plugged in when I'm at home to save the AA = alkalines. I > never have to worry about the voltage which probably caused the many = crashes and many hard resets I had with NiMH. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:56 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pksharma wrote: > (I do have an OG700 .. how many others do ? > and what is an 1000CX ?) It is a 100LX without the applications in ROM. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:51 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: pksharma@CAL.VSNL.NET.IN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pksharma wrote: > >I find myself agreeing with most bits and pieces that everyone > >else wrote in this thread. Including the advice (sane, IMHO) > >that one should stay with the 200LX if there are tangible > >benefits. > > I don't agree ! i angree ! :-) ROFL! You seem confused a bit ... > Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone ! improve the good thing ! I believe the Corvallis operation moved to Singapore. They issued the Omnigo 100, 110, and 120 (I think this is right) which were interesting, but bombed in the market. They had all the engineering resources, except the people, but never really did much with it after the OG 1xx failures until the WinCEs. What a shame. > can't we start a wish list ? what features > could be improved .. This is old, and TOTALLY frustrating. We have done this probably 3 times. At one point, I collected several hundred signatures on a set of fairly stable specs and sent it along to HP's Singapore people who ignored it. Please not again... > can't thaddeus and others make a better > lx than the one we all proudly and > complainingly have to use Send an inquiry to hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com ... > (count me in .. india is now a cheap > fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan > base is a better idea .. morphey one > is in a limbo ..) I was involved with a group of people who were interested in developing the HP 260LX (our name for the the set of specs we sent to Singapore). This effort died when the banks in Asia collapsed several years ago, and never revived. I am aware of one other person who is doing something about a sequel and is approaching manufacturing 10 machines just for himself and some friends. (yes, he has some $$$ to burn ...) > fully agree .. since the corvallis guys abandoned > it Not so. HP abandoned it based on marketing information from their marketing wonks and the lack of demand. The marketing machine from Redmond (aka Microsoft) got to them with the promises of WinCE, then PocketPC. >.. now hp is abandoning hp > Bob .. u do know something abt the > dismantling of the Corvallis team .. Realignment of the company. The division making palmtop was combined with the computer division in Singapore, but most people who knew about making Palmtops would not leave Corvallis. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:03 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pksharma wrote: > >> 1.75 million HpLx200's sold ? > > > I think the correct quote would be 1.75 palmtops of various > > kinds, not just 200LX. > > This is a more reasonably correct estimate ! Maybe not. I have some numbers that came from reliable sources, but uncorroborated(!) which talk about 2.5m. That would include all the palmtops until WinCE. So I do not know really if any of these numbers are right. > >Most vendors in this market niche > >compiled a list of many thousand names. In talks with other > >vendors, we assume the size of the active market now is about > >50,000 people. Many of these have more than one machine. This > >number may be a bit high, but it was realistic 1-2 years ago. > > coming from an authoritative source (you) i'll accept is I am only one of several vendors, many (were) much larger than D&A. So your enthusiastic endorsement of "authoritative" is unwarranted. > as totally correct .. an active market of 50k+ people ! > that's a very very high figure .. given the leaps and > bounds of technology .. and many have more than one ? > .. THAT speaks volumes for the usefulness of the Lx ! Understand what active means: "Active" means this person bought something some time ago. It includes people who later sold the Aplmtop and moved on - but we do not know. It includes people who do not have palmtops but participate. So the 50K is probably who we know about, so we call them active. I think it would be an olympic size leap to conclude that 50K+ people are actively using Palmtops from THAT evidence. I think that of the list I am talking about maybe half NO LONGER use the Palmtop. But OTOH I think there are many more thousands with whom we have no contact (i.e. they are not "active" in our definition) but they are users of palmtops. Don't forget too: There are probably thousands more that are used for various purposes _other_ than personal pdas and personal computers. So all this says there were many sold, butwe have no idea how many still in use for personal productivity purposes. > > other place for many many such machines is in laboratories. > > medical, physics, and inside companies that do things with > > them, have them control various other machines etc. > > TELL ME ABOUT THESE ! Please .. have them 'control' > other machines E.g. numerical control, controlling various measurements, cameras, machinery. lights in remote buildings and houses. And more. > it hurt anyone if we can somehow locate these > users and users and users Too expensive to find them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:24 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry, IMHO you should have taken up bird watching ... or perhaps programming some decent Linux applications for various Linux platforms, including PalmPilot-like platforms. Barry wrote: > When I retired I considered taking up bird watching but instead > I chose linux-devotee watching. Their cries can be heard all > over the internet. > > Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or > few linux applications written for it will improve said machine, > I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees. > > What strange and improbable creatures they are! :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:37 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: just another fax program Comments: To: "M. Lennartz" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Go to BGFAX package, and get the VIEW.EXE from there (there is another VIEW.EXE from a document viewing package, just to add to the confusion ...) It works well with TIFF files. I use it regularly to view faxes received as TIFF files from my own fax service. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:27 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: "Oliver W. Leibenguth" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews... Oliver W. Leibenguth wrote: > > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to = the > list as > > although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I = need > out > > of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore > should not > > be forgotten. > > That's right. My 95lx does everything I want a portable computer to do. = No > fancy Icons, no colorful WinCe-crap, just a small thing that helps me = along > and reminds me of "ye good ole times"Ýtm¨ > > regads, > Oliver > > P.S.: The only two things that suck on the 95lx are the small display = that > makes it almost impossible to use unadapted software and the crippled > graphics (I would love to produce graphics with Qbasic or GWbasic.....) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:10 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruce Martin wrote: > >> The phone app is arguably better on the 200LX > > > > AFAIK it is identical between the machines. Ý...snip huge unnecessary quote...¨ > "- The appointment manager has a daily pop-up message reminding users = of > "to do's" and appointments. aha! I forgot that one. > "- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card= " > or the 100LX-style "form" format. Really? Hmmm... I changed my Phonebook on the 100LX a long time before I got the 200LX and just copied the PDB across, and never really used the original, built-in phonebook. My mistake. Sorry. Gee, giant differences, too ... > "- Support for flash cards is improved. Probably most significant for most users. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:51:31 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: K.Rdt@tu-berlin.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On the Palmtop? Are you sure? If not on Palmtop, can you please not post it here in the future? Thanks in advance. Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > I got the 2. time a 'message' - not an anttachement! - , > which is very big, and is trying after a while of loading in > the ram to dial to the internet. > It's very difficult to delete. > 1) 'Editing' the inbox > 2) changing sort, this 'virus' is the last and > can be deleted with the whole folder. > > Has anyone made similar experiences? > > Klaus > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:00:41 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > "- Support for flash cards is improved. Indeed, I can happily use a Simpletech 48MB card on the 200LX/700LX, but it is not recignized on the 100LX, which is pretty much Sandisk minded. But then, even a 95LX can use ye olde SDP5... Sundisk cards, albeit with a veery special driver. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:17:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 23:50:39 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > Yes, understood. I just wanted to let you know how far I have > gone, and to demonstrate that the two machines _could > potentially_ talk, since they recognized each other. They sort > of did some shaky handshaking ... Yes, physically they are fully compatible, since they both support SIR. The palmtop as the only standard, the OB as its lowest IrDA layer. > Should have offered him your spre OB too! ... He has an OB800. This is why he wrote the driver. It is really an Omnibook 800 specific driver (although it might support all IR chips of this type, but I don't know in which other machines it is used). We can be glad that this driver went officially into the linux kernel (I think since version 2.4.9)! > I will be happy to test what Martin produces, because I could > use such a connectivity. I wonder though, if it would also be Okay, if it is time to do more intensive testing, i'll let you know. > reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it > could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800? That would be of course the ideal solution. May I take that as an offer, that you ask Andreas to implement full IrDA on the palmtop? :-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 22:18:54 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: BOB1 Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Nigel Rotherham wrote: > > >snip< From: "Avi Meshar" ...Long live the HP 200LX Palmtop (and 100LX and OG > 700LX and 1000CX)!!! > > Errr, excuse me guy's (and girls!), just wanted to add 'HP95LX' to the list as > although now very much outdated (and forgotten?) it still does what I need out > of a portable system (and I guess for countless others) and therefore should not > be forgotten. After all, if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty > 100/200's have come from? > > Best regards from Nigel R in sunny South Africa :-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Nigel! you got it right I still have my 95lx,200lx the 95lx has a vety large fonts thanks to the 240x128 dots. "if it were not for the 95 where would your trusty 100/200's have come from?" agree 100% Bob E RAIN OFF AND ON SAN FRANCISCO ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:50:58 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: TDK vs. Grey Cell Ýwas:Re: TDK or Kernel modem cards¨ Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, what a hellish confusion! Actually my modem says: Series 4000 Fax/V.34 Modem GSM/PCN Grey Cell Systems If you want to see EXACTLY what it looks like, use the url: http://www.greycell.com/Support/tdk4000.html You can reach it via http://www.tdksystems.com then click on product support, Europe, then scroll down to Series 4000 etc. Hence my attribution of TDK to the modem. As far as power, I use it with my Palmtops every now and then - it is my back up modem which goes with me evrywhere the Palmtop goes. My modem was purchased in the UK. I see the US pages for tdksystems and there appears a CyberExpress series, but not 3000. I also saw a little comment in the non-USa pages, where they use "TDK Systems Europe (Grey Cell)" --- looks like a synonym. BTW, they say replacement cables can be purchased in several places, see http://www.tdksystems.com/usa/naspt/faqs/faq003.htm Anyway, this is why I said the TDK will probably work. Avi M. Al Kind wrote: > 11/13/01 10:23 pm > > Avi & All: > > I use a TDK "CyberExpress 3000" 33.6kbps MODEM. You cannot insert w/ > the LX on(immediatly draws too much current and enters "backup > mode"), but if palmtop is off when card is inserted, all is fine...if > it only had an "X-Jack"! > > Cheers...AJKind > > Avi Wrote: > > > The TDK is likely to work. I use a 33.6 TDK and it works fine. > > > > I know nothing about Kernel. You can easily try it: Put the > > modem in and if the screen begins to darken or the palmtop > > won't turn on, then the modem draws too much. This is not an > > exhaustive or perfect test. Many modems draw little when not > > in use and beyond what the palmtop can supply when ACTIVE. > > > > Avi M. > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > -- > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:50:55 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > hi Klaus, > > which Email program do you use? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:50:50 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony Kan wrote: > So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when > to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop? I think not. All my NiMH were hovering around the low battery for long time, much much longer than any lithium battery ever did. But apparently Richard has that experience. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:20:45 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Re: Staying with the 95/100/200lx Comments: To: camba1@pacbell.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob in damp San Francisco (e-mail received direct) and all other enthusiastic HP LX users wherever you are! Thanks for the supportive note (Bob), much appreciated :-) One of my interests / hobbies is amateur radio and there is a fellow ham who has developed a very good utility (for amateur radio use) that runs under DOS. It works on the 95 with no problems except for the unconventional screen size (40x16) but guess what? After exchanging some information, he is going to modify (enhance) the application for me so that the application uses the 40x16 screen! Who said that 95 development was dead ! Thanks again for the note, all the best to you and your family and until the next time, KEEP SMILING! Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:05:00 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > I've never communicate with the card service yet, > but I know at least Stefan and many more are at home > about this if it is necessary. I know something about modem cards, but nothing about memory cards. In Ray Duncan's:"Advanced MSDOS" book, I found valuable information about the media change subject. DOS talks to the card through a device driver. This driver is the "interpreter" between DOS and the hardware and it has to do several tasks, one of which is to tell DOS, if the media has changed since the last call. DOS wants to know this information if there is a pending drive access. The device driver has a choice of 3 answers: 1-Disk has not been changed. DOS proceeds with the disk access 2-Disk has been changed. DOS invalidates all buffers associated with this disk, including buffers containing data to be written to the disk. Then it reads the disk's FAT and directory again 3-Don't know. The action taken by DOS depends upon the state of its internal buffers. If data needs to be written, DOS assumes no disk change has occured and write the data (taking the risk to damage the file structure if the disk really was changed). If the buffers are empty, DOS assumes the disk was changed and will act like described under 2-. Ray Duncan states: It can be very difficult for the media check routine to determine with absolute certainty that the disk has not been changed. Several methods have been suggested: - checking a hardware door lock signal - inspecting the volume id of the disk. But they may not be unique or available at all - evaluating timing constraints. It has been determined that a disk cannot be physically exchanged in less than 2 seconds. Non of this methods is completely satisfactory, for obvious reasons. Concerning the 200LX, the device driver is a built in TSR. AFAIK Mack wrote his own device driver for the times2tech internal memory upgrade and another for flashcards > 220MB, because the built in driver could not handle these disks. To me, this means, manipulating the "media changed" status is much more complicated than I thought. It either requires to write a new device driver, or to manipulate the existing one in ROM. IRETing from DOS INT21 FKT36h is very simple in comparison. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:12:01 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: just another fax program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? > > > that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a > solution? I have no solution, but an answer: LXPIC will never work with TIFFs ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:08:47 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Greystone PCMCIA CardDock assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Penick wrote: > I purchased a Greystone Model GS-220M > CardDock of eBay recently. Everything > looked great and installation seemed to go > OK. I just can't figure out why it won't > "mount" my Sandisk cards as drives. Last week my brother bought a Nikon camera that wouldn't install on his computer through the USB port. I called Nikon support and asked if the compact flash card was a standard format and that if it was we'd go get a card reader. She said it was but be sure to check what kind of card it was. They deliver cameras with Greystone, Sandisk and one other kind of compact flash and the manufacturer's name would be on the card. She also said that the Greystone reader was needed to read the Greystone card and the Sandisk reader was needed to read the Sandisk card. The card was Sandisk and we got a Sandisk reader and everything was fine. (at the same time my brother returned the Nikon for a Kodak. He'd heard of Kodak but never heard of Nikon and was sure the real problem was the off-brand camera. :) I was skeptical of her comment about the brand of the card matching the brand of the reader but now that you're having this problem I wonder if she was right. It might be worth looking into. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:16:33 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: CF card startup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Hi Steve, > This would be important because we'd better have the > TSR *interrupt-driven* rather than "polling" actively > some location regularily by hooking to the timer. Hooking to the > power-on/off could be made interrupt driven (I recall > having seen such a hook on the Developer's Guide). Hi Rudi, Yeah, that would be the way to do it. The power-on and power- off interrupt is what is needed. The Drive Parameter Block returned by function 32H "Get DPB" has the "dpbFirstAccess" showing if the drive has been accessed and "dpbNextFree" showing the first free cluster. > I think I'll have to repost the question again to an > assemler-programming group on Usenet. I've posted once > to > comp.lang.asm.x86 > > but I could not found it again on > > http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search > (best Usenet search-engine I know! Don't worry, no Ad's!) > > I got the impression that this group is moderated. Maybe > my article never have shown up in the group. So, it'd be > worth trying it again. Again, yes it is moderated, and posts are often lost. From one of the moderaters weekly posting... - - - 2. If your posts seem to be disappearing into a "black hole", try sending an email copy of your post to one or more of the following addresses: clax86-submit@crayne.org ÝThis is the direct path to the CLAX86 robomoderator, and is completely independent of the process by which your news server converts moderated posts to email. Currently, this is the most reliable way to post your message.¨ clax86@yahoo.com ÝThis is the address from which the robomoderator retrieves messages posted to your news server. Unfortunately, yahoo has become involved with the anti-spam wars, and is not as reliable as it once was.¨ - - - > Yes, yes. I think you're right. I'm slowly refreshed, that > the directory entries contain pointers to, ..., one-directional > linked list in FAT (?). Now, that's for read-access of an > existing file. What about a file-creation? I mean, how does > a new file get allocated? I thought that DOS scanned for one > free block. But you mean a pointer is used? Wait, are the > free blocks also linked as a list? And where are the pointers > saved. The pointer is just to where to start the search. Unused clusters are marked as such in the FAT. Find an unused FAT entry (cluster) and allocate it to a file. > > Probably your best bet to minimize delays would be to set > > BUFFERS=0 and run SMARTDRV. > > Steve, could you please do a review on the use of "BUFFER"? > I've never undertsand that and just have some number there > in my config.sys :( And smartdrv, have you tried that? Disk access is buffered by MS-DOS when BUFFERS are allocated. More buffers "tends" to speed up access by allowing larger reads (and writes) to be buffered in anticipation of future reads (and writes). Works best on slow devices like floppies, worst on fast devices like flash cards. Haven't done testing in a _LONG_ time, but performance improves till about BUFFERS=9 then larger values have little effect. A disk cache like SMARTDRV.EXE or Lightning make buffers useless and provided much better performance. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:16:27 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop > because I thought it is big and should > overwrite the shell. But it did not. That is, > the "saved information" of free disk space > did not get lost after loading and quitting > MATLAB. Dos stores it's data in an area of low memory that never gets overwritten even if command.com is overwritten. Command.com isn't Dos. It's just the command interpetter. It's the interface between you and Dos. In unix it's called a shell. Dos itself, and it's data area, are never overwritten, except possibly during a crash. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:21:18 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: CF card startup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stefan wrote: > Steve wrote: > > I think the proper way to look at this problem would be > > to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. > > I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know > where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive. > Mack, are you listening? Hi Stefan, Found it in the Drive Parameter Block returned by function 32H "Get DPB". Documented in "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference" Version 5. Now if I knew how to write a TSR... Maybe this weekend if I find the on/off interrupt vectors. > > Most programs that I have seen just make the write to > > the disk and check for success. > > So do I > > Stefan Thanks for the confirmation. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:32:30 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl wrote: >> I think the proper way to look at this problem would be >> to find the location of the "Media Changed" status. > > I'm already searching for it. Mack should probably know > where to find it with his knowledge about the C: drive. > Mack, are you listening? Either int 13h function 1 or function 16h can be used to determine the disk change status. If you want the memory area itself you should be able to step through that function (or disassemble it) and locate the address. Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h and make sure that actually uses int 13h. It very likely does. If it does use int 13h you could replace that code with your own that could check that memory area and then return the answer you choose. This should assure that every program gets the answer you want it to. However, the LX bios might make further checks after a power down and if it does it's probably best to let it do it's work. If a card has been swapped during a power down you sure want to know it. I think if I were going to play with this I'd do a careful study of just how all this works. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 15:37:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: cc: chen@get.uni-paderborn.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just found another occurence of the card delay after a power on event: If you copy a file from c: to a: after power on, it takes just as long as a DIR on a:. Every subsequent copy is fast until the next power on. Copy from a: to c: is always fast. That means, writing to the card also always checks for the media changed event, but probably not through INT21h FKT36h. Rudi, can please check this with your TSR? If writing to the card uses another service, then the IRET solution only speeds up the DIR command, but not the general write access to the card. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:37:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: CF Card Startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" One complicating factor to consider in analysing the time it takes to read a card's free space is where the card was formatted and under which DOS. I needed to format a 20MB SanDisk PCMCIA flash card (SDP5-20) on my Win 2000 laptop in order for it to be readable there as well as in my 95LX. When I do a CHKDSK on the card in the 95LX, I get a number of errors, to the extent that CHKDSK hangs. A DIR on the card brings up the files quickly, but it takes an additional _10_seconds_ to get the free disk space (on the first DIR -- subsequent DIR's take only the initial 1 second). It appears that the card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes getting the free space much more time consuming. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:15:25 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: CF Card Startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- ----snip----------------- >Feldman, Robert >It appears that the >card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes >getting the free space much more time consuming. ----snip It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation units. As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K or 4K. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:30:04 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Greystone PCMCIA CardDock assistance needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, In this case it is NOT true. After opening up an IRQ the Sandisk card worked perfectly. After reading your email I pulled out an older Pretec 20M memory card and inserted it. Win ME had to load some additional drivers above what was needed for the Sandisk, but they both were visible at the same time. I'd try a CF that I have to make sure it works (don't expect any problems), but I can't find it. Another reason to keep using the original PC cards - They don't get lost in a bag or on my desktop like the CF ones do! Later, bob - still soundless ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: Re: Greystone PCMCIA CardDock assistance needed > I was skeptical of her comment about the brand of the card > matching the brand of the reader but now that you're having this > problem I wonder if she was right. It might be worth looking > into. > > Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:34:49 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: CF Card Startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Michel, You are right. The "normal" allocation unit for the flash card on the 95LX is 4096 bytes. The Win 2000-formatted card has allocation units of 512 bytes, so it has 8 times as many. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Bel, Michel Ýmailto:Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM¨ Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 10:15 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: CF Card Startup -----Original Message----- ----snip----------------- >Feldman, Robert >It appears that the >card FORMAT under Win 2000 has done something to the card's FAT that makes >getting the free space much more time consuming. ----snip It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation units. As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K or 4K. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:00:08 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net, "Dr. Werner Furlan" In-Reply-To: <3BF1DB34.21173.1BC6B9C@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am Mittwoch 14 November 2001 02:47 schrieb Dr. Werner Furlan: > hi Klaus, > > which Email program do you use? > Hi Werner I'm using Opera 5.02 on W95 b. Klaus ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:31:38 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: OT Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: furlan@gmx.net, "Dr. Werner Furlan" In-Reply-To: <01111420000800.00564@lap> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi all(?) Sorry, if I nerved memers. This group is my main group for years and I usually got good responses and advices. Perhaps I should have prefeixed my subject with the OT in the first time, isn't it? K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:04:49 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Corrupt FAT (was: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi Meshar wrote: > > That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt. > That means rebooting will most likely hang up because the > machine cannot find where the files and drivers are. You can > easily check to see: If a DIR shows you have a huge amount of > space of the drives - oh, in the gigabyte range - your FAT is > mooshed and toasted. A plain reboot will get you nowhere. > Restoration of the C: drive, drivers, files and so on is in > order. You are correct - this was then a misunderstanding on my side. In such a case you should have a recovery procedure at hand which reinstall's the memory swap driver and the speed driver (if applicable) before you panik (and I did panik at least three times in my palmtop life). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:06:36 +0900 Reply-To: Akio HIKITA Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Akio HIKITA Subject: A small trouble with "JKIT" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonjour, Nathalie, Michel, Richard. Thanks for your advices about the generating accented characters. But I have a small trouble with "Jkit". When I type Japanese just after the accented characters the accented characters turn to another characters unreadable. If I put one bite space it's OK. But Japanese one space(two bites) causes a small trouble like that. It's just like "a drop in the bucket" but I want to just report. Akio ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:19:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: PDU V2.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a new version of PDU, fixing a bug concerning destination adresses with an odd number of digits. At least in NZ this seems to be a problem, as Tony Hutchins had to experience. The bug is fixed in the new version and Tony contributed a script which reports errors occurring during PDU as incoming SMS. This is very handy to get an idea on whats going wrong, especially for beginners who try to setup PDU as a POST/LX plugin. Tony, thank you very much! In order to make everything work together, I had to change the configuration for PDU.SCR. It now uses POST.CFG instead of ROBOT.CFG. This simplifies things a lot. Also the whole thing is called through a batch file, allowing you to use WWWSET to configure IrDA automatically. What does that mean? If you are already using PDU and have a working setup and never errors, then only replace your old PDU.COM by the new PDU.COM. But if you have time and want to have errors reported, read PDU.DOC and do a complete new setup. Download from http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 21:44:07 -0000 Reply-To: vmbeazel@SWCP.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Beazel Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? I have been following this thread with some interest and reflecting on how I became acquainted with the HPLX. I thought you might find my experience of some interest and perhaps typical of many others. My neighbor had won an HP100LX in a raffle drawing several years ago and really found no good use for it. In about 1997, upon learning that I was somewhat of an HP calculator collector (HP35, HP15C, HP41CX, HP71B, HP48GX), she gave it to me. At that time I did a little research and found out that Matlab 3.5 Student version could be hosted on this platform. Initially, that got me excited, but because of limited memory and my inability to find that version of Matlab, I lost enthusiasm, and the HP100LX ended up sitting in the "back of my desk" for two years. Then in November of 1999, the style of Franklin Covey paper planner that I was accustomed to using was discontinued, so I decided to dig out the old HPLX and organize myself electronically (smaller in size than the paper planner, and no need to buy refills every year). After one week of regular use, I was hooked. I have since upgraded to the HP200LX (primarily for the filer.ini capability), thanks to Robert Hocking. I bought the Times2Tech speed upgrade kit, thanks to Mack. I found Matlab 3.5, thanks to Barry, and have a 160MB SanDisk about a third full of ebooks. After loading the Scriptures onto the LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast. I love it when another engineer flippantly remarks that I should get rid of the old technology and electronically move into the 21st century - by the time I have plotted a few FFTs in Matlab, the individual has begun salivating. What I find remarkable is that what once sat in my drawer for two year because of my lack of vision to see the possibilities, has now become my constant companion (and it doesn't throw my back out of alignment carrying it around). I guess the secret to mining the "goldmine" is that once you encounter somebody who has an LX and is clueless about its utility, try not to act too excited while you're endeavoring to talk them out of it. They might decide that there is more to it than meets the eye, and just decide to keep it. ;-) Thanks to all of you whose contributions to this community have kept this wonderful little machine alive and have vastly extended its utility. Sorry to have gotten carried away with the length this posting, especially for those of you concerned about bandwidth. ;-) Best Regards, Victor ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:44:55 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: just another fax program Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I remember when I begged for it before (2 years ago?) Your explanation was that there appear to be many ways to format TIF files, and no one standard way, which makes the code grow in size. I thought that it would be a shame to blow up LXPIC from its tiny dimensions to something large just to accomodate one functionality (display TIF files). It made sense then (and now). Thanks for all you have done for all of us. Avi M. Stefan Peichl wrote: > Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > > > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? > > > > > that's what I also would like to know! Maybe Stephan knows a > > solution? > > I have no solution, but an answer: LXPIC will never work with > TIFFs ;-) > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:44:57 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: IR connection to Omnibook 800 Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > reasonable to do some of the work on the Palmtop too, so it > > could talk to other IrDA-capable machines, not just the OB800? > > That would be of course the ideal solution. > May I take that as an offer, that you ask Andreas to implement full > IrDA on the palmtop? :-) I am sure Andreas reads this list, so he knows, but here it is, just for the formality of it : Andreas, how about putting together something that will enable the SIR to talk to IrDA so Palmtops and Notebooks can connect? I am not sure Andreas will want to tackle this, but it does not hurt to ask. Even if not, he may be able and willing to help out to whoever does tackle it. I assume he has quite a bit of relevant info ehich may come in handy in this project. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:44:54 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > Either int 13h function 1 or function 16h can be used to > determine the disk change status. If you want the memory area > itself you should be able to step through that function (or > disassemble it) and locate the address. Unfortunately the palmtop has no INT13h. The SDK says: | The INT13h service on the HP palmtop provide two categories of | services, both of which are nonstandard services. HP palmtops | do not support standard disk services at the INT13H level. | Instead, custom device drivers are used. The INT13h sevices on the palmtop concern the ramdisk c: > Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h I tried to, but the code is so lengthy (and I didn't reach the end yet) that I gave up. It is hard to understand reassembled ASM code. I can do about 1-2 KB, but everything above is just too time consuming. I guess you know the situation being a programmer too ;-) > I think if I were going to play with this I'd do a careful study > of just how all this works. I totally agree. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:00:03 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? HP Staber writes: > David Becher wrote: > > I cannot agree more. I am using NiMh batteries and 2 days ago was running them down too below 2.35V (with a pc card) and all of a sudden the FAT of my C: > > drive was all screwed up. For the first time evr I did a hard reset, and typed > > "Y" to reinitioalise drive C. > > That reinitialising is not necessary. If you do a hard reset you should > type NO or if you can't read because of the missing speed driver just > hit Alt-Ctrl-Del and the machine will reboot as usual. > I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: crashed and I really DID need to reinitialize it. The point I am emphasising is what has been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to ensure your data: 1. Backup 2. Backup 3. Backup -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:02:51 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Tony Hutchins writes: > Maube consider another brand of NiMH? No they are fine - it was MY fault. Normally when I go away for more than 2 days I put in alkalines. Its just that when I use rechargeables and with ABC/LX installed, I plug the palmtop in the adaptor and dont worry all that much about charging. So I neglected to keep an eye on the voltage. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:44:08 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Tony Kan writes: > I apologise if I sound a bit ignorant here but I haven't used NIMH batteries > before. So are you saying that its difficult to get sufficient warning when > to charge them in order to avoid crashing the palmtop? > Cheers > Tony. The warning is plenty sufficient - it just helps not to ignore it! -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 17:36:53 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: TIFF files In-Reply-To: <0GMT00III8H3UF@smtp.fnal.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think that if you can lay hands on a machine running Unix, Linux, Windows 95/98/00, a Mac, OS/2 or VMS, then with a little work you can get ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org) going on it. This package is probably too big to fit on the LX series. For example, I see that the convert program on this Mac takes up 51Meg. Anyway, ImageMagick is a pretty nifty graphics package and will (among other things) between about 80 different file formats. No exageration! > > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:04:19 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of you probably already use MODEM.COM in your SETCOM.BAT file in order to detect at which comport a modem is connected. The new version of MODEM is a merge of UART.COM (discontinued) and the old MODEM.COM. The functionality concerning SETCOM.BAT is identical. So you may just replace it. But in its verbose form it is more powerful now. For example on my palmtop with external modem at COM1 and PCMCIA modem in COM2 it says: COM1 =2D 03F8 =2D IRQ4 =2D 16450 UART (no FIFO) =2D Modem found COM2 =2D 02F8 =2D IRQ? =2D 16550A UART with FIFO =2D Modem found COM3 =2D N/A COM4 =2D N/A But the reason why I improved MODEM was my notebook. I have a Toshiba Portege 300CT with Win95 for some month now. It has 2 PCMCIA slots, but they are only accessible under Win95. Booting to plain DOS keeps them out of the play, because the DOS version of Win95 has no socket and card services implemented, which are the basis to access the slots. In a DOS box under Win95, I had no problems with flash cards in the PCMCIA slots, but a PCMCIA modem was not recognized. Win95 could use the modem, but I could not in a DOS box. Win95 has assigned COM5 to the PCMCIA modem, out of the range for WWW/LX. But I found out, that Win95 used the base address 02E8h for COM5, which is usually assigned to COM4 under DOS. But COM4 under DOS was not known because it had the base address 0000h written in the bios data area. All I did was writing the base address of COM4 (02E8h) into the bios data area and suddenly the modem worked as COM4 under DOS. Therefore I addded the command line switch 'i' to MODEM.COM, which causes an init of all 4 base addresses in the bios data area with the default values. My SETCOM.BAT on the notebook Iooks like: MODEM i4>NUL if errorlevel 1 goto one wwwset "Port=3D4" goto end :one MODEM 1>NUL if errorlevel 1 goto end wwwset "Port=3D1" :end It works perfect and I have a copy of my whole WWW/LX and POST/LX setup running in a fullscreen DOS box under Win95. Download from: http://peichl.hplx.net/modem.zip Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:50:36 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: WWW/LX on the notebook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that I have WWW/LX and POST/LX running on the notebook, I'd like to tell you for what I use it: Several times per day I download 20 intraday mini charts from yahoo. This is done through a batch file called from within POST/LX. The batch file uses GET to download the charts and then goes offline. Unfortunately the charts have the ugly interlaced GIF format. I convert them on the fly to BMP using GIF2BMP and then LXPIC is called in list mode to display all 20 charts on one screen. In other words: From the desktop I use one mouse click to start POST/LX in a fullscrenn DOS box. Then I press the 'c' key, which is a macro starting the batch file I just described. One minute later I sit in front of a screen with 20 intraday charts and can watch them without the "online stress". I cannot think of a better (and cheaper) solution. Two manual actions and all the rest is done at max speed (115200 baud indeed for WWW/LX on a Pentium) and best comfort. I see the WWW/LX suite as a serious competitor in todays desktop market, if people only needed productivity. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 00:56:05 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Daily Backup Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob Christopher wrote: > Although I do a complete daily backup of my 200LX like this: > 2. Via batch file copy drive_d onto the same flashcard Bob, There is no reason to backup the 'D:' drive. All that data is in read only ROM and can't be lost and for the same reason is impossible to restore. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 03:35:43 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The connectivity pack does look and feel like the LX except that it does not > ...............but it will > allow you to add new icons so that you can add other applications to the > taskbar. How do you add additional icons/applications to the taskbar and what applications have you added? Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:40:41 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warning (for guys allergic to long msgs and for those allergice to philosopical sermons) : This msg is best ignored ! >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:20 PM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx >> I don't agree ! i angree ! :-) >ROFL! You seem confused a bit ... :-)) To say that i am angry will make others angry too .. so i have coined the new word - agree yet be angry = angree (angrily agree) Tho i am generally in agreement with the guys (there seem to be no gals here ?), many many times i feel that just agreeing is not enough at all .. as some managment guru once said for an indian company .. total agreement is BAD for growth .. friendly conflicts (not enimical conflicts!) are very necessary for development .. if not hurting other peoples' feelings becomes so very important .. we can live happily ever after .. WITHOUT any growth or development .. to be NOT satisfied with the present state of affairs acts as a catalyst to growth .. So i have coined the angree (angry yet agreeing) syndrome .. This is a very very nice list .. unlike any other .. and i see lots and lots of them .. people here are friendly .. tolerante .. very very decent .. and GOOD .. the last being the most important .. This is the thing I am wanting/trying/ compelling everyone to study, understand and make happen DELIBERATELY and with planned implementing .. the lx is NOT ONLY a good product .. it is the reason for GOOD THINGS to have happened .. like the many many postings here prove .. unfortunately i find no takers or pickers for this thread of mine .. lots and lots of posts have come in .. mostly agreeing with the good part of the Lx but almost none about the intentional and deliberate replicating of the PHENOMENON of a rare thing .. the GOOD thing surving .. the how of it .. the why of it .. and most important the planned repeating of this in OTHER areas too .. like improving the LX .. so AVI don't only ROFL .. i like that too ! .. but DO something on the lines i am repeating and repeating and repeating .. you are a part of the HAPPENING .. and the Lx was the reason for it .. but more definetly more important is the next step for you and others like you and for us (users) .. the 2nd generation of Lx .. graduate from the harware only version to better hardware, sure, but to the ideas version of this phenomenon .. the simplicity MAKES the lx survive and survive .. and strangely .. NO OTHER product emulated this characteristic .. the survival design .. the survival philosophy .. it was not know .. certainly not planned .. but now, its known, realised, understood, and so can be studied, researched, documented (?) and most importantly : implemented with planned deliberation (i certainly am persistent, isn't it ? but i keep trying .. to get even 1 follower will be a reward .. till now i am still looking) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:24:51 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 95/100/200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Rotherham" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:50 PM Subject: Re: Staying with the 95/100/200lx > Who said that 95 development was dead ! I keep coming across such opinions all the time .. it just proves my iterations .. its good by chance not be design .. it happened .. not intended to happen .. if it was intended to happen (like the later CE based machines 300 400 500 600 700 series .. they never 'happened' to survive tho intended to do so much), it would be a planned thing .. since it was not planned yet happened to survive .. we can learn from the history and the good fit of this series .. the 'long live ' series .. and try (at least) to replicate it .. with planning and intention/deliberatelyness :-D ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:25:15 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: horizontal reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gee ! thanks ! 4 sending it sooo promptly ! will try it out .. tell u later abt how i feel ..p; ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 01:48:08 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: New thread : the universality of the Lx, its philosopy and history (which is the proof) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Avi Meshar" >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 1:20 PM >Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx >> Let's do what Corvallis guys left undone ! improve the good >thing ! >I believe the Corvallis operation moved to Singapore. They >issued the Omnigo 100, 110, and 120 (I think this is right) >which were interesting, but bombed in the market. The MARKET ! ugh .. the final RIP place for most good things .. the newton .. the apple cube .. the conseqence of the millions of dollars spent in hyping and then billions in unhyping the same products (MicroSoft itself now says Dos is bad, Windows is bad ) .. why oh why do people get carried away by the hype and buy worthless junk for small fortunes ? >They had all the engineering resources, except the people, but >never really did much with it after the OG 1xx failures until >the WinCEs. What a shame. yes, WHAT A SHAME ! .. what happened to the engg resources ? lost in the abyss or frozen in a deep freezer ? (and 'exept the people' .. i take it to mean the original corvalis team ?) >> can't we start a wish list ? what features >> could be improved .. >This is old, and TOTALLY frustrating. We have done this >probably 3 times. At one point, I collected several hundred >signatures on a set of fairly stable specs and sent it along >to HP's Singapore people who ignored it. Please not again... i extrapolate from YOUR experience .. sent it along to HP's singapore people .. meaning sent to the black hole .. what a tragic end to such a noble effort .. you earn my respect .. it was a NOBLE effort .. history is witness to many many such efforts ending up in doing the default which mankind has set for such efforts : NOTHING I am still not disheartened .. probably will die wishing and certainly TRYING to make something HAPPEN .. HP may be the father of the LX .. but foster parents can give more love to the child than the original father/mother .. don't we all know that ! .. and the Lx has got a large number of foster parents .. this list is the proof of that ! >> can't thaddeus and others make a better >> lx than the one we all proudly and >> complainingly have to use >Send an inquiry to hal_goldstein@thaddeus.com ... Let me share something .. i did send a few "your'e a good guy" msgs to Hal .. he's too modest .. he accepted them .. but moderated me down .. not wanting to accept all that super buttering (but is was NOT buttering .. just calling a spade a spade) .. i hope Hal will understand my strong feelings about the product and HISTORY .. and give me just the little support .. blessings .. cooperation .. guidance .. encouragement .. that efforts like these need (just to survive if not thrive) >> (count me in .. india is now a cheap >> fabrication joint too .. maybe a taiwan >> base is a better idea .. morphey one >> is in a limbo ..) >I was involved with a group of people who were interested in >developing the HP 260LX (our name for the the set of specs we >sent to Singapore). This effort died when the banks in Asia >collapsed several years ago, and never revived. Let's revive .. the banks have been revived .. see .. the revival is a law of nature .. and its natural that revival takes place .. the specs for the 260 lx .. send them to me .. if you can wipe the dust off from the subdirectory where u stored them in the attic of you hard disks Ý :-)) ¨ >I am aware of one other person who is doing something about a >sequel and is approaching manufacturing 10 machines just for >himself and some friends. (yes, he has some $$$ to burn ...) whoa ! i don't have that many $$ to burn .. a few yes .. that many .. no .. but tell me abt him .. status of the project .. his email .. is he on this list ? what other things is he into .. which country ? >Realignment of the company. The division making palmtop was >combined with the computer division in Singapore, but most >people who knew about making Palmtops would not leave >Corvallis. that makes corvallis a city/town .. good thing they would not leave their place .. must still be there .. anyone know how to get to them .. for money or the love of the Lx ? .. pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:10:30 +0100 Reply-To: HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruce Martin wrote: > > > I have played with my J720 for three months now. Since two weeks it = is > > sitting in a corner collecting dust. The applications for WinCE > > machines are almost useless if you really rely on a PDA. > > > > The only interesting development will be Linux on such machines (I = know > > it is being done for iPAQ's). > > > Check this out: a Palm clone with Linux inside, just US$99.99. Anyone = have > this? Does it actually do anything that a PalmOS machine can't? I have not investigated deeply but I'm aware about products and activities. The German company TUXIA has just announced a free Linux suite for iPAQ's as well. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 07:10:35 +0100 Reply-To: HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > Barry, > Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or > few linux applications written for it will improve said machine, > I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees. I'm no Linux expert - I have just installed it in a multiboot environment for my kids. I'm convinced that they will "need" it. WinCE 3.0 on the J720 is a joke. Pocketexplorer is OK, P-Outlook opens the door to all sorts of virus attacks. P-Access requires you to be an SQL expert. P-Powerpoint displays slides only, you can not create ore modify slides. P-Excel lacks a lot of spreadsheet features and does not allow to make graphs. I trust (but have not tried personally) that the appropriate Linux installation has PIM, Mozilla and office programs and a lot more. I started to check out the requirements to install Linux on a PCMCIA to run on the J720 but backed off, since the instructions were written in a techie type language which I did not understand. I'll try again maybe during Christmas holidays - just for curiosity. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 22:12:23 -0800 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Hacking the dictionary card Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Does anyone know any way to use the files from the HP Dictionary= card on another card? -- Patrick West, francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com on 11/14/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:51:06 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx, its philosopy and history (which is the proof) Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for butting in, but I thought to make a few comments . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "pksharma" > Let's revive .. the banks have been revived .. > see .. the revival is a law of nature .. and its > natural that revival takes place .. the specs > for the 260 lx .. send them to me .. if you > can wipe the dust off from the subdirectory > where u stored them in the attic of you hard > disks Ý :-)) ¨ If I am not mistaken, when the banks crashed, they took people's money with them. The current revival would therefore be with new money, meaning the old money is not coming back. Hence, not hplx revival, from that source anyway. :-( > that makes corvallis a city/town .. good thing they > would not leave their place .. must still be there .. > anyone know how to get to them .. for money or > the love of the Lx ? A few details from previous discussions on this subject. The list has had many people come and go, but the size has remained at a constant 800 members, approximately. Now, if we took the overtly optimistic asumption that every member of the list would purchase 3 machines each, that would make a sale of 2400 machines. It has been mentioned on this list on several occasions that the size of a special order from HP (if they were inclined to do so, which they are not) would be about 10,000 (IIRC). The details on cost of marketing, parts, and other details, have been hashed quite a bit here. The bottom line? It is not possible. The only place where a pipe-dream-user-produced-and-supported palmtop can come from (Japan) has not been forth-coming (morphy). Unfortunately, palmtops cannot be made from parts off the shelf (except possibly the Palm, for which there seems to be a significant amount of parts available). The people who created the hplx did it for the money, and they stopped working on it for the same reason. Sadly, that is the state of things. I am not an expert in these matters, but I did not think the real experts would be inclined to rehash all the old discussions on this issue, so I decide to butt in. :-) Given the great lack of new users, it's hard to tell in a way why this list still exist. We like to hang around each other, old habits die hard, I guess. :-) New users are what drives most of the relevant discussions. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 23:10:03 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Backup (was Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?) Comments: To: David Becher In-Reply-To: <200110141000.PNR00311@netmedia.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, David Becher wrote: > 1. Backup > 2. Backup > 3. Backup Here's what I do on my 2M 200LX normal speed w/10M flash card: I put in a repeating daily appointment: |c:\zip.exe -u -ex -ba: -o a:\lx @c:\_dat\f Start time is 23:33, end time is 23:59, Location is "Q" alarm is enabled Leadtime is 1. The file c:\_dat\f is: c:\quicken\*.* c:\_dat\*.?db c:\_dat\*.wk? This updates the file a:\lx.zip on my Flash card every night. From time to time, every few weeks, I send the lx.zip file to my bigger computer, with the name lx010930.zip (for example) to mean the backup taken on 30 Sep 2001. Clearly, copies of zip.exe, unzip.exe, and the file f are also on the a: drive in case of disaster. ----- This automatic backup feature is one that I find most helpful on the 200LX; as I understand it, CE devices can't do this. You have to plug it into a "master" PC to back it up. Yuck. And not having graphing capability on CE's version of Excel? Pleeeeeze! And the so-called calculator on CE? Total joke. The fact that the 200LX is a full-function -stand alone- PC is another thing that makes it special. And people should not be so quick to write off DOS...that program loader is still useful. ---- -Mike p.s. I, too, am curious for the specs on the mythical "HP 260LX" - anybody want to post them? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 08:26:04 +0100 Reply-To: HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Becher wrote: > I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: crashed = and I > really DID need to reinitialize it. That's bad. I did not have this since maybe two years now. Knock on wood. But then you don't seem to have a memory upgrade with two drives - a small "boot" drive and a large swapped drive. I am lucky to own a 96meg machine. If the LX freezes the large drive (containing most of the data) can be easily recovered if you don't panik. In a single drive situation this may not be the case. > The point I am emphasising is what has > been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to ensure = your > data: > 1. Backup > 2. Backup > 3. Backup No question about that. I have grown lazy on doing backups though ;-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:40:19 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: How to type French letters Comments: To: Akio HIKITA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A belated reply, but.... I have a 7 language (Dutch, french, english, spanish, german, italian, portuguese)dictionary, Windi7,that works on the palmtop. You need only install the languages you are interested in, say french-> english and french -> english. It is not very extensive, but it helps. It used to be free download, but is no more on their site Let me know if you want a copy - Oh, it's 2MB per language, approx HTH Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Akio HIKITA" To: Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:17 PM Subject: How to type French letters | Hi, | I am a Japanese lxer. Now I am studying French at the local college. | I don't know how to type French letters with accents. And do you have | any English-French or French-English dictionary on freeware? | Please let me know about that. | My 200lx(2mb ram with 10mb flash card) is very smart with writing | English, Japanese, and Korean. I use the Korean editor "San". | Akio HIKITA | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:50:09 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET In-Reply-To: <000d01c16d16$f3887900$8efe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Nov 14, 1 08:16:27 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > > I started PCMATLAB v3.5 on my palmtop > > because I thought it is big and should > > overwrite the shell. But it did not. That is, > > the "saved information" of free disk space > > did not get lost after loading and quitting > > MATLAB. > > Dos stores it's data in an area of low memory that never gets > overwritten even if command.com is overwritten. Command.com > isn't Dos. It's just the command interpetter. It's the > interface between you and Dos. In unix it's called a shell. > > Dos itself, and it's data area, are never overwritten, except > possibly during a crash. Hi, Barry, with overwritten I meant in short the known behaviour of command.com re-loading itself. The fact that loading NDD (Norton disk doctor), do nothing, and quit resulted in a re-computation of the "saved value" of free disk space should be explained. One possibility is that the program NDD triggered the reloading of command.com. Other possibilities would be that NDD did something (some "reset"?), that triggered the necessity of a re-computation of the free disk space. Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:09:09 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20011114081718.203f4aec@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> from Steve at "Nov 14, 1 09:16:33 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > > Yeah, that would be the way to do it. The power-on and power- > off interrupt is what is needed. The Drive Parameter Block > returned by function 32H "Get DPB" has the "dpbFirstAccess" > showing if the drive has been accessed and "dpbNextFree" showing > the first free cluster. Hmmm. I think I'll have a look at DPB (Disk/Drive Parameter Block). Do you think the flag is significant to the behaviour we're discussing? I've never get the block yet. Has anyone examined or used that Disk Parameter block? I could not find "dpbNextFree" for DOS v5.0 but only for DOS 3.x and 4.x and MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB" Fields differing in DOS 3.x Offset Size Description 1C word starting cluster for free space search (...) Fields differing in DOS 4.x 1D word starting cluster for free space search (...) MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB" 1Dh WORD cluster at which to start search for free space when writing, usually the last cluster allocated 1Fh WORD number of free clusters on drive, FFFFh = unknown 21h WORD high word of free cluster count (...) by Question; is that DPB a memory block or a disk block. Where is it? > Ýexplanation of Usetnet groups and moderation.¨ So many things are going one on the net? I'll need to update myself! :) Thanks for the explanation of the BUFFER and SMARTDVR stuffs. I'll play with them. Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:17:08 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20011114082204.203f779c@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> from Steve at "Nov 14, 1 09:21:18 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > Hi Stefan, > > Found it in the Drive Parameter Block returned by function > 32H "Get DPB". Documented in "MS-DOS Programmer's Reference" > Version 5. Now if I knew how to write a TSR... Maybe this > weekend if I find the on/off interrupt vectors. To save you one minute of searching, Steve. The hook is: INT 06, AH=1, AL=1 This is verified by IC.COM 06 ah=1 al=1 /f so that everytime the palmtop wakes up from deep sleep, the screen is flipped and buzzer clicked. This is one reason why I made IC.COM general. I think I should send you a copy ... what do you say? :) (*warning*: advertisement) Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:26:10 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF Card Startup Comments: To: Michel.Bel@ATOSORIGIN.COM In-Reply-To: <1E89D877173CD311B9510008C75D97B203455331@nlehx021.ehvvan.nl.origin-it.com> from "Bel, Michel" at "Nov 14, 1 05:15:25 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michel Wrote: > It may be that W2K uses the card more efficient, and uses smaller allocation > units. > As the LX's check/buffer all the allocation unit info on startup ( hence the > delay) it may take twice as long if it has allocated 1K unit instead of 2K > or 4K. Michel, are you implying that DOS on our palmtops keeps a memory image of the FAT? I'm only aware that this is a general issue of Operating System, but have been assuming that DOS does not do this. Am I wrong? Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:36:42 +0100 Reply-To: radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Radek Svagr Subject: transcend CF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone using a Transcend CF in a DOUBLESPEEDED 200lx? Becasuse my 128MB Apacer doesn't I am looking for another... Radek ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:54:51 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <1641AB-1AUJLEC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 14, 1 03:37:37 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan wrote: >I just found another occurence of the card delay after a power on event: >If you copy a file from c: to a: after power on, it takes just as long as a >DIR on a:. Every subsequent copy is fast until the next power on. Copy from >a: to c: is always fast. That means, writing to the card also always checks >for the media changed event, but probably not through INT21h FKT36h. Rudi, >can please check this with your TSR? Positive. Also, I've stated that in the first two posts of mine (1)(2)/answer to the 2nd question. But I did not interpret this explicitly. Maybe we should try to. My visualization of these stuffs is currently: 1. Read/Write access to the disk operates quite *independently* of computing and maintaining the free disk space inside DOS. 2. Reading a huge disk is piece of pie for DOS. There should not be a delay: a) FindFirst, FindNext for Dir-Entry; b) Dir-entry contains a pointer to the first block of the file; c) all blocks of the files is linked as a list. Some people critisize this as a disadvantage for random access to a file (OS course). But this should not have anything to do with the delay that concerns us for the time being. 3. Writing to a huge disk involves searching linearly for free allocatin blocks starting for the beginning of the FAT. (A search for the value zero.) Some other operating systems use different strategy by putting free blocks also into a *linked list* which is kept track of. So far as I know, DOS does not do this. Now that you've also observed that the second write-operation requires much less time. This should be explained. This is a wild guess but I hope this would not be true! : All programmers maintain their own working variables which are not officially documented or standardized. Let's imagine some internal working variable called the "last position of free disk block". And a) Use this position to start the search for the next free disk allocation block if ... b) Use the beginning of the FAT to start the search for a free block if ... (after reboot, after disk change, after this value is destroyed/initialized somehow, after reload of command.com ....) Now, it would be a good news, if such variable is protocoled in a standard data structure such as the DPB (as Steve has pointed out in previous posts). But it would be a bad news, if such variable is arranged ad libitum without a formal interface for the user. An example is the 100/200LX, some events of the palmtop are exposed *formally* to the users by an official Hook but some are not. :( Support for (3). I'll be claiming that I can speed-up the write-access to a huge disk even immediately right after power-on. Please check and confirm/reject the claim. Method: As stated in a previous post of mine, I complained that the defragmentation utilities move the used blocks "bottom-up". So that, a search requires scanning through all used block. But there is a tedious way to make a free area at the beginning of the FAT, so that, a free block can be found very quickly. 1. Use some utility to identify any file, which is allocated at the beginning of a big flash card. (I used a Norton Diskeditor). 2. Backup this file by copying to another with different name. 3. Delete this file, so that there are now, free blocks at the beginning of the flash card. And the linear search should be fast. Result: Copying a file to A: is always fast even after power-on. (Of course, until this "gap" is again filled up.) I think Barry is right that looking into the source codes wil help. But I cannot do that. Let's hope to hear someting from him. Steve will be checking the Disk Parameter Block. I think I myself am in need of a "real weekend" ... What about you, Stefan? Oh, yes. My 36H is still IRET. But, Michael Lennartz has his point against that. Still, the only program I know which checks for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com It will refuse to copy. But this is still safe so far. I once also complained that COPY, XCOPY do not check the free disk space before copying the files. I complained about they waste me time by copying most part of the file, and then told me that there are not enough free space. *But* I don't know now if this should be understood as a oblivion or a decision / a feature or a bug. Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:58:10 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: OT Re: graphics converters for PC and MAC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > How can I view tiff-images on the 200lx? If you want to convert files on the desktop I have found the following programs to be useful. For the MAC I would reccomend Graphic Converter (www.lemkesoft.com) which takes less than 8 Mb of disk space and will convert 55 different formats including TIFF. Last time I registered a copy it cost $40. For the PC I use IrfanView (I think Barry reccomended this one). It only converts 15 formats (including TIFF) but it is freeware. It takes less than 5 Mb on my hard disk. You can get it from www.irfanview.com -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 09:02:32 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > Unfortunately the palmtop has no INT13h. The SDK says: > > | The INT13h service on the HP palmtop provide two categories of > | services, both of which are nonstandard services. HP palmtops > | do not support standard disk services at the INT13H level. > | Instead, custom device drivers are used. > > The INT13h sevices on the palmtop concern the ramdisk c: >> Then I'd take a look at the code for int 21h function 36h > I tried to, but the code is so lengthy (and I didn't reach the > end yet) that I gave up. It is hard to understand reassembled > ASM code. I can do about 1-2 KB, but everything above is just > too time consuming. I guess you know the situation being a > programmer too ;-) I either didn't realize or didn't remember that int 13h wasn't used on the palmtop. So that makes the rest moot. However, if it was used an easy way to find it in a disassembly is just look for instances of int 13h in the listing using your editor's search feature. Then examine any of these you find, and possibly their callers. I have the developer's guide but I haven't looked at it in years. Most of my palmtop programming just treated it as a PC. Obviously I haven't done any LX low-level disk I/O. :) Barry Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:36:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Nan-Shan Chen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > 1. Read/Write access to the disk operates quite *independently* > of computing and maintaining the free disk space inside DOS. Verified! Doing a first COPY to A: and then running DIR does not speed up DIR. Doing DIR first and then COPY does not speed up COPY. I suppose, DOS keeps two different kind of information in its buffers, but both concerned by the media change event. > Still, the only program I know which checks > for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com > It will refuse to copy. Now this is extremely bad news! LIST.COM is my one and only Command Center. I use it xx times a day to do virtually everything on the palmtop. This diminishes my interest in this subject to 0.01% :-( I'm not ready to give up LIST! Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:43:12 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Screenshots of X-Finder GUI themes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Following a number of suggestions, I have added to my page at http://www.angelfire.com/ego/palmtop/ example screenshots of the various themes available for palmtops running the X-Finder GUI. Please take a look and let me know what you think. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 02:11:36 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi sally, Noted . sorry .. no offence meant .. Nathalie is posting regularly .. i missed it .. suggestion : lurk has a bit of sinister connotation .. so in many forums i have kept on suggesting to change the description to 'lookers' .. so you are one of those who 'mostly look' ! wouldn't you like to comment on my other ramblings ? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" sally_cooper@hp.com> > To: "'pksharma'" > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 8:50 PM > Subject: RE: Staying with the 200lx > Hello pk, > There are a few of us here, Nathalie posts regularly, I and a few other gals > mostly lurk. > > Sally > > Disclaimer > I subscribe to the list from my place of employment, there is no other work > connection. I work in the Inkjet supplies division. and that 'work connection' has something to do with the Lx ? :-( ? ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 19:06:00 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: WWW/LX on the notebook In-Reply-To: <164AjM-26aa1oC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo all, I fully agree. And I like productivity-only applications. Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 Stefan Peichl schrieb am 15.11.2001: --------------------- I cannot think of a better (and cheaper) solution. Two manual actions and all the rest is done at max speed (115200 baud indeed for WWW/LX on a Pentium) and best comfort. I see the WWW/LX suite as a serious competitor in todays desktop market, if people only needed productivity. --------------------- Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 13:47:08 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the question! In the past I added a link to Quicken 8 for DOS because I was so used to using Quicken from the Palmtop interface. To add an additional application you use the F2 key to bring up an form to put in the info to add the app. When you choose the new icon and press enter it shells you out of the Connectivity pack to the external app. Close the app and you return to the Connectivity pack. (Usually I get a message to close DOS window in between.) In double checking so that I could answer your question correctly, I began to wonder if I could set up an icon for a Windows based app. (I had previously assumed that I could only add a DOS app.) I tried and it worked. But more importantly, it place the Connectivity pack on my windows taskbar and left me in Windows when I closed the windows app.! I clicked on the connectivity pack session and it opened with no problem. I now had essentially minimized the Connectivity pack and was able to get back to it quickly. Something I had not been able to do without screwing up my video memory in the past. So, I've learned that I can shell out of the Connectivity pack to a windows program and come back, I just can't leave an application like Phonebook open while I do it. Marginally useful but interesting. Over seven years of using these things and I still keep learning new stuff! Also, I would like to verify that you can run the Connectivity pack on the 200LX. I did it just to see. But why would you want to. (I do understand about the 1000LXs though.) Later, bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Kaufman" > How do you add additional icons/applications to the taskbar and what > applications have you added? Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 03:05:13 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: New Topic - Linux on the Lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "HP Staber" To: Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:40 AM Subject: Re: PCMCIA v. CF Card Discussion, PocketPC comments >Barry wrote: >> Now if I can figure out how having linux on a machine with no or >> few linux applications written for it will improve said machine, >> I'll have learned something new about linux-devotees. >I trust (but have not tried personally) that the appropriate Linux installation has PIM, Mozilla and office programs and a lot more. This is correct .. 'appropriate' is the right word .. actually i've tried and tried to find a very very small linux .. and have found it too .. it works on top of dos .. doesn't replace the dos operating system .. but works along side .. and surprisingly without destroying or corrupting the dos. > I started to check out the requirements to install Linux on a > PCMCIA to run on the J720 but backed off, since the instructions > were written in a techie type language which I did not understand. > I'll try again maybe during Christmas holidays - just for curiosity. probably the J720 works on WinCe .. which is why linux won't run on it .. i've not come across any Linux distro which was made to work under of along side WinCe .. as it is, WinCe is soooo woefully inadequate in itself .. its good .. it works .. but that's where the goodness ends .. very very few programs have been made to work under WinCe .. yet there is a program which 'recreates' the dos operating system under WinCe .. its a bit costly .. but it works fine ! ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 03:22:31 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and my observations on Hans Staber's msg are given below ..pk >----- Original Message ----- >From: "HP Staber" >To: "pksharma" >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:56 PM >Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people >I'm a Gen Mgr running a 300 people operation and I do that in the >morning before going to work. While showering and having breakfast the >palmtop downloads Financial Times, Yahoo business news and market >information which I read afterwards ;-) Same in the evening. To see how >I do it check RWEBADV.DOC in the ROBOWEB/LX package. Wow ! and the Lx fits the purpose .. strange .. even the Lx720 descendant can't do this ! >> and Hans .. what is more that u r doing or have done >> that we should know more about ? >I have been checking out a Jornada 720 PDA running WinCE 3.0 Below is >info/experience that I collected so far. >HP Staber/Salzburg >+( J720 Hewlett Packard Jornada 720 excellent stuff .. below .. Hans has really gone a long way to put it in record .. noticeable is the use of XT-CE .. this is one good program which gives Dos under 720's WinCe operating system .. but as i understand from his writeup .. its not fully functional dos .. freezes in places :-( (but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either) ..pk the excellent write up follows : MINUS 1) different adapter : size and polarity 2) no file search functionality (in explorer) 3) no graphics in Excel and Access 4) no grouping of columns/ranges in Excel 5) screen very dim in sunlight 6) no file conversion utility (WKS<->XLS) 7) software depends on processor (StrongARM), not so popular yet PLUS 1) backlight screen in the evening 2) Pocket Internet Explorer 3) file size of p-Excel is much smaller than "real" Excel97 : 140kb->45kB SOFTWARE WinCE : ======== PocketToy, PocketGraph produces graphs from PocketExcel tables SpreadCE p-Excel alternative, converts to/from CSV and does graphs not PUNZIP AutoGraph DOS : difficulties in setting up the right screen driver ===== dBASE III+ Framework II Lotus 1-2-3 v 2.4 (very slow) Word55 Lotus Magellan Quicken v 8 Nierenberg ProjektKickstart Nierenberg The Art of Negotiation Collins Dictionary PIM/PE (very slow) acCIS4 WWW/LX (very slow) FTP/LX PKUNZIP ROBONEWS/LX ROBOWEB/LX POST/LX as standalone reader for ROBONEWS/LX and ROBOWEB/LX not : POST/LX v2 and v3 as mailclient together with WWW/LX SKETCH3 (junior version of AutoCAD) FoxPro Nierenberg IdeaGenerator IrDA works you need to specify the "generic IrDA modem" in the setup access to CIS There are help files in Compuserve PALMTOP forum section 4 for dial up purposes - it is a terminal connection. (the rest of the stuff was on some other issues of memory etc ) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:31:03 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Lithium cells in Germany MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I just went to Segor Electronics here in Berlin and asked fir Lithium batteries. They have 1.6V AA cells, each costs 16 DEM, i.e. 8 US$. Is this reasonable? What about the voltage? Are those you all use also 0.6V or 1.5V? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:25:29 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people Comments: To: pksharma In-Reply-To: <007501c16c8e$e358fba0$396dc5cb@pksharmacal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > (but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just > wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either) > I've been running foxpro 2.6 on the palmtop for years. You have to make some changes to the video mode so that it thinks it's on a mono screen but otherwise works well. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:40:33 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Etienne, On Win 98, NT4 and now Win 2000 I could never Alt-Esc and get anywhere. When I Alt-Tab I can get the Connectivity pack to go to the taskbar. When I do this my taskbar reads "C_Pack - FROZEN". And when I click to reopen, my video in that session is screwed up and unreadable. The only thing I can do then is to do a blind Alt-Q to close it. Sometimes if I could not remember where I was or what I had left open, I would have to force it to close. For me, this was the first time I have been able to work on a Windows application and return without completely exiting the C_Pack. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Lemaire" To: "Bob Penick" Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: HP connectivity pack > On my desktop I minimize the connectivity pack with Alt Esc, > and click on it to get it back- I can leave phone book or appt > open and return to it. Closing CPack via Menu-Q often freezes > the PC, but I found that minimizing first, then a right click on > the CP icon in the taskbar and "close" works flawless. I have > Win98 SE on my desktop. > Establishing a link between my desktop and the 200 in Filer > works only if I first go in remote settings, thenclick OK, no > need to change anything-assuming the settings were right from > the start, of course. Just opening filer and hitting F10 always > fails. > > > Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 17:04:03 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > This automatic backup feature is one that I find most helpful on the = 200LX; > as I understand it, CE devices can't do this. You have to plug it into > a "master" PC to back it up. Yuck. Actually, my Jornada 690 has a program (provided with it by HP) that will = back it up to a Flash card. You can also restore it from the card, which is = helpful when the inevitable major crash comes. HP also provided a nice scientific= and business calculator (but no Solver function). I still use my 200LX most = of the time, however. I got the Jornada because we have a specific system at = work that requires a WinCE hand held. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 16:41:49 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Palmtop.com down? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been unable to retrieve email from Palmtop.com since late last night. If anyone else on this list uses Palmtop.com for their email, please let me know if your email is working. Reply to me at my alternate email: bc@ezlink.com Thanks. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:36:40 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Okay, so what is the big deal about the 200LX ?!? Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > "- The phonebook can present phone and address details in "business-card" > > or the 100LX-style "form" format. > Really? Hmmm... I changed my Phonebook on the 100LX a long > time before I got the 200LX and just copied the PDB across, > and never really used the original, built-in phonebook. My > mistake. Sorry. Gee, giant differences, too ... I think he is speaking of the datacard view which kind of overlays the underlying simple form. Looks like GBWin. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 10:45:25 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: NiMh batteries work for me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been using Olympus Camedia NiMh batteries for a few years with no problems. Once a week I plug the palmtop in overnight using the standard "NiCad" charging setting. I have never had a crash caused by batteries. Of course I also used the tiny Stancor AC adaptor for years with no problem so perhaps I am just lucky (good battery karma?). More likely it's because I don't ask much of the batteries, I don't use a modem or network card and I plug the machine in when I'm writing to the PC card. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:41:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Wayne E. Yang" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wayne E. Yang" Subject: 1MB HP200LX + 3MB Flash, Connectivity Pack, Manual for Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1MB HP200LX + 3MB Flash, Connectivity Pack, Manual for Sale plus two PCMICA 14.4 modems. Recently refurbished by Thaddeus. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1298262129&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=1006744227&indexURL=0&rd=1 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 20:30:48 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? Comments: To: vmbeazel@SWCP.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Scriptures, if you are not aware... Tom Hoover has written "His Word" for the LX http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/ It uses data files from Online Bible http://www.onlinebible.net/ I have on my LX both programs with... AV 1769 Strong's Numbers w/definitions Treasury of Scripture Knowledge Scofield's Notes Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary Wesley's Notes Gill's Notes Topical Items Thompson Chain Topics New Topical Text Book Doctrinal Items How to Study Your Bible Major Bible Doctrines Puritan Confession of Faith Spurgeon's Catechism Sum of Saving Knowledge Major Index Other Material AV 1611 Epistle of Dedication AV 1611 Preface Commenting on the Commentaries Harmony of the Gospels Index to Misc. Material Index to "Treasury of Scripture Knowledge" Notes Index to Scofield's Notes Influence of the Bible Parallel Passages in New Testament Parallel Passages in Old Testament I'm also considering porting over the full blown Matthew Henry's commentary. Victor Beazel wrote: > > SanDisk about a third full of ebooks. After loading the Scriptures onto the > LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I > compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast. I love it when another -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:25:31 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Backup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Steve Carder" >To: >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:34 AM >Subject: Re: Backup >Actually, my Jornada 690 has a program (provided with it by HP) that will back >it up to a Flash card. my Lx360 has a backup program built in too .. but only for 'data' .. which is only the contact list, todo list .. it doesn't backup the entire 'C' drive .. saving pocket word, excel, powerpoint, emails has to be done manually by transferring files thru the built in file manager ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 04:33:40 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Foxpro 2.6 running on the Lx200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is great news, for me at least .. for years i've been trying to run a very tiny accounting program under FoxBase2.0/2.1 .. these FoxBase have multiuser simultaneous file/record access options .. and can work happily over a network .. but found that even the compiled version (using Foxpcomp) with the ' .fox' extension ran rather slow ! I guessed running FoxPro2x would be even slower. is that not so ? ..pk >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ed Padin" >To: >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:55 AM >Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people > I've been running foxpro 2.6 on the palmtop for years. You have to > make some changes to the video mode so that it thinks it's on a mono > screen but otherwise works well. i assume that the foxpro2.6 version is FoxPro for Dos .. the cursor in that version should be a block type, not the arrow type as in windows .. right ? (there is a FoxPro for Windows version too. the cursor there is a regular arrow and the windows have the look and feel of the Windows desktop type including 3d buttons and scroll bars) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 01:37:51 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pk, Have you considered running: http://www.xt-ce.com/ on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that? ----- Original Message ----- From: "pksharma" > probably the J720 works on WinCe .. which is why linux won't run > on it .. i've not come across any Linux distro which was made to > work under of along side WinCe .. as it is, WinCe is soooo > woefully inadequate in itself .. its good .. it works .. but that's where > the goodness ends .. very very few programs have been made to > work under WinCe .. yet there is a program which 'recreates' the > dos operating system under WinCe .. its a bit costly .. but it works > fine ! > > ..pk > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:08 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi pk On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:40:41 +0530, pksharma wrote: > This is a very very nice list .. unlike any > other .. and i see lots and lots of them .. > people here are friendly .. tolerante .. > very very decent .. and GOOD .. the last > being the most important .. True. I also haven't seen any other mailing list or newsgroup which is as nice and tolerant as this one. The reason may be that we know each other fairly long and well, only rarely there are newcomers (unfortunately!), and many different opinions have been discussed already. So we now are a harmonic group of people wanting all the same: as much productivity from our litlle companion as possible. And besides that, we also want to talk a little bit "about god and the world" as we Germans say. And we do so, and no one is complaining. "and that is well this way" (as Klaus Wowereit, our mayor of Berlin has said when he told us that he is a gay) ;-) > This is the thing I am wanting/trying/ > compelling everyone to study, understand > and make happen DELIBERATELY and > with planned implementing .. the lx is > NOT ONLY a good product .. it is the > reason for GOOD THINGS to have > happened .. like the many many postings > here prove .. unfortunately i find no > takers or pickers for this thread of > mine .. lots and lots of posts have come Well - don't feel offended please, but as yourself say, you are repeating the same words over and over, and (although you are right, I think, and you only say what we all may be thinking) this gets _slightly_ boring. We all appreciate your kind words about all the other list members, and everyone is welcome on this list. Your philosophical "touch" was missing until you joined us, so it is quite "refreshing" to talk also about the whole philosophy which is behind the LX and its usage. Okay, I won't say more here, I think you know what I mean. Again, this is no offense, and others may think different, I don't know, but since there are not so much people who join your thread, I really think you should simply repeat a bit less. Say it once and let your words do the rest. I at least was fairly impressed by your new point of view of the big "Phenomenen" HPLX. > (i certainly am persistent, isn't it ? but > i keep trying .. to get even 1 follower will > be a reward .. till now i am still looking) Yes, you _are_ persistent. ;-) I really think we are all followers. But it is more "in the background". We usually don't talk as much about that all. We talk more about the technical problems and solutions we have. The proof that we are all followers is that this list still exists and still has so many members. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: Siemens phone <-> HPLX data cable for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I have a data cable for sale which connects a Siemens cellular phone (S25, C25, S35, C35, M35, (S45, ME45?)) to the palmtop (and only to the palmtop, because it has a custom plug, thus it is very light and convenient). This is the only way to establish reliable Internet connections with these phones, because the IrDA interface of the Siemens phones are low-power IrDA and thus have a reduced working range. This limits the distance in which the phone must be placed from the LX and this causes EMI. For further information please look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx This cable is made with a real printed circuit board, i.e. not exactly in that way described on my home page (not with that standard SMD circuit board). It is NOT transparent, but covered with black heat shrink tubing and looks fairly professional. The cable is about 20cm long. I ask 60 Euro plus shipping for that cable. First one who wants it gets it. I ship to anywhere (but please be aware that shipping costs are about 5 US$ overseas, and as a registered letter with assurance even more; I will not be responsible if it gets lost during shipping, if it wasn't assured by the mail service). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:34:19 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, since I got some mails recently asking for one of my LED lights, I'll eventually build one more bunch of them in the christmas holidays. But only if there is enough demand. So, please, anyone who is interested in buying a LED light for 35 US$ (please have a look at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight for further information, and you can also ask here on the list for experiences with the light, since I sold some of them some years ago to list members), please drop me a line! This will be no order. If I receive enough mails that I decide to make the lights, I'll let you know. I will then ask you to order it obligatory. The light will cost the same as some years ago: 35 US$, plus shipping. IIRC shipping to overseas (America, Australia) costs about 5 US$ without assurance. Preferred payment way is Paypal, I also accept Paybox, cheques or money orders, which you pay _all_ administrary costs for (that will be expensive!). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:08:24 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pksharma wrote: > > > (but Hans .. running Foxpro .. on a palmtop ? just > wondering .. it doesn't work on the Lx either) Had the copy around and simply installed it for a trial :) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:44:26 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Sample Backup System Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Bob Christopher writes: Ýsnip snip¨ > > NOTE: THIS ASSUMES THAT YOUR PC CARD HAS ENOUGH ROOM TO HOLD > ALL THE FILES ON YOUR DRIVE C AND DRIVE D ON YOUR PALMTOP. Why would you want to back up the d: drive? It is ROM! -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:27:27 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Corrupt FAT (was: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries?) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT HP Staber writes: > Avi Meshar wrote: > > > > That is not correct. David said the C: drive FAT was corrupt. > > You are correct - this was then a misunderstanding on my side. > > In such a case you should have a recovery procedure at hand which > reinstall's the memory swap driver and the speed driver (if > applicable) before you panik (and I did panik at least three times in > my palmtop life). Like I said in my 1st email - no panic no fuss. It took me all of 10 minutes (I didnt time it) and I was fully restored. I have a single speed palmtop so all I had to do was reinitialize drive C:, wipe EVERYTHING off drive c: from DOS, recreate the EMSDAT file form emm240 and then pkunzip my backup from the flash disk. Have Backup - No panic, not even panik! -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:31:11 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Avi Meshar writes: > Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? > > I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in > omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews... Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince? -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:09:48 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: WWW/LX on the notebook Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, Stefan Peichl wrote: > In other words: From the desktop I use one mouse click to start > POST/LX in a fullscrenn DOS box. Then I press the 'c' key, > which is a macro starting the batch file I just described. > > One minute later I sit in front of a screen with 20 intraday > charts and can watch them without the "online stress". Excellent! (Makes me feel even better that you use our product for part of the process. ) Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:09:36 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: OT Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Klaus, You misunderstood. I am sure no one objects to an occasional off topic message (with or without the OT: indication). But you posted a message with almost NO INFORMATION, just that you had a virus. That is alarming, don't you think? If you were attacked by a virus, maybe others can be hit too. Maybe not. It is speculative, because your message said nearly nothing. Maybe to be more considerate in the future you can give a hint to all of us what the heck you are talking about. I am sure it was all inside your head, but it was hard for us to read that material ... Thank you. Avi M. Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi all(?) > > Sorry, if I nerved memers. This group is my main group for years and I = usually > got good responses and advices. Perhaps I should have prefeixed my = subject > with the OT in the first time, isn't it? > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 02:09:54 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HP Staber wrote: > David Becher wrote: > > I am using a single speed HP200lx with 4mb memory. My drive c: = crashed and I > > really DID need to reinitialize it. > > That's bad. I did not have this since maybe two years now. Knock on > wood. But then you don't seem to have a memory upgrade with two drives > - a small "boot" drive and a large swapped drive. I am lucky to own a > 96meg machine. If the LX freezes the large drive (containing most of > the data) can be easily recovered if you don't panik. In a single drive > situation this may not be the case. In most cases, the add-on memory will remain fine when the Palmtop crashes. In several years I have seen many crashes but only less than a handful affected the add-on memory (such as the 96M you have). The boot drive DOES crash in a large number (but not ALL) of the crashes. That is what an un-upgraded Palmtop sees as the c: drive. Even if you panic and reinitialie the boot drive it does NOTHING to affect the add-on memory! You want to experiment? Back up your 96MB and boot drive and then reinitialize the C drive duting a cold boot. The ONLY thing you affect is the built-in c drive which came from the factory (which you call boot drive.) So panic away. The important thing is to understand what you do and what you affect by the boldboot with reinit. > > The point I am emphasising is what has > > been repeated here so often: There are 3 things you should do to = ensure your > > data: > > 1. Backup > > 2. Backup > > 3. Backup > > No question about that. I have grown lazy on doing backups though ;-) I agree with Mr David (Gibuy Gibuy Gibuy Becher and with you! There is not way to get the data from if you do not backup consistently and frequently. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:28:17 -0500 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Last chance on the manuals In-Reply-To: <200111160807.DAA10255@siaar1aa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll be throwing these manuals in the trash this weekend if no one wants them. Anyone can have them just for the cost of media mail, (slightly over $2 if I recall). First person to email me can have either one, or both if you so desire.... The Norton Utilities 6 Book, ISBN 0-672-27384-5 The Borland Paradox 3.5 User's Guide Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:10:56 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: CF card startup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Rudi, Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Hmmm. I think I'll have a look at DPB (Disk/Drive Parameter > Block). Do you think the flag is significant to the behaviour > we're discussing? Well, it seems the best bet to date. At least it's a place to start. To be sure you would need to have the source code to the HP modified MS-DOS, or dump memory before and after powering on, and see what changes. And then try and find out what is relevant. > I could not find "dpbNextFree" for DOS v5.0 but only > for DOS 3.x and 4.x and MS-DOS 7 (Windows95) - FAT32 - "Get_ExtDPB" Slight change in structure version 3 -> versions 4+. Versions 4 through 6 are the same structure and definition. Don't have any information above version 6. > Question; is that DPB a memory block or a disk block. Where is it? It is a stucture in a block of memory that is used to define each disk drive to MS-DOS. It is in MS-DOS itself. > Thanks for the explanation of > the BUFFER and SMARTDVR stuffs. I'll play with them. As I looked in "Undocumented MS-DOS" to find out more about the DPB, I found more info on buffers. My speed testing was done on a single disk at a time. If you use multiple disks at the same time, you will probably want more buffers. But a disk cache program still works better than buffers. Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > To save you one minute of searching, Steve. The hook is: > > INT 06, AH=1, AL=1 > > This is verified by > > IC.COM 06 ah=1 al=1 /f > > so that everytime the palmtop wakes up from deep sleep, the > screen is flipped and buzzer clicked. This is one reason > why I made IC.COM general. I think I should send you a copy > ... what do you say? :) (*warning*: advertisement) Sure, I can look at it. But I have spent some time using CMDSPY and INTERSPY from "Undocumented MS-DOS" to track interrupts. So, I'll probably continue to use them. And I recently got a hold of a copy of the HP Developer's Guide, so I will see if I can track down what that has to say. Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > Michel, are you implying that DOS on our palmtops keeps a memory > image of the FAT? I'm only aware that this is a general issue > of Operating System, but have been assuming that DOS does not do > this. Am I wrong? When DOS uses a FAT, it is read into the disk buffers. The portions that fit will remain in the buffer until overwritten. As such, multiple searches of the FAT may not require multiple disk reads. HTH Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 15:36:41 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tralornik wrote: > > pk, > > Have you considered running: > http://www.xt-ce.com/ > on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that? Interesting thought. I will try it. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:32:19 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo wrote: > It has been mentioned on this list on > several occasions that the size of a > special order from HP (if they were > inclined to do so, which they are not) > would be about 10,000 (IIRC). The > details on cost of marketing, parts, and > other details, have been hashed quite > a bit here. > The bottom line? It is not possible. I think you miss the point. It almost seems possible if we overlook a few things and think of it in the right way. So we can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing it. If it were actually possible we'd either decide to do it or not to do it. Nothing to dream about there. At least not after it's done. Not after it's decided not to do it. It's not possible (at least in any way we can predict now) to reach the stars. That's probably part of the reason science fiction is so popular. Science fiction about reaching the moon pretty much stopped after we did it. Barry (the impossible dreamer) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:44:24 -0500 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx Comments: cc: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200111161435.JAA25053@siaar2ab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year, but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it. I am thinking about writing a Windows PIM that looks almost exactly like the Conn. Pack. Is there a demand for that? Do most of the 200LX users also use Windows? I wouldn't know how to sync though. :-( Mike... -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of HP Staber Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:37 AM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx Tralornik wrote: > > pk, > > Have you considered running: > http://www.xt-ce.com/ > on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that? Interesting thought. I will try it. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:40:49 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > with overwritten I meant in short the known behaviour of > command.com re-loading itself. The fact that loading NDD > (Norton disk doctor), do nothing, and quit resulted in > a re-computation of the "saved value" of free disk space > should be explained. One possibility is that the program > NDD triggered the reloading of command.com. Other possibilities > would be that NDD did something (some "reset"?), that triggered > the necessity of a re-computation of the free disk space. You're correct that command.com reloads itself if it's overwritten. But the information about the state of the disks isn't kept in command.com. That's kept in the Dos data area. NDD is a program that does very low level things to your disk and probably, as a safety measure, leaves Dos in a state where it will re-check the status of the drive. It probably, as you said, triggers a re-computation. But this has nothing to do with whether command.com is re-loaded. That's a seperate issue entirely. Repeat this 3 times, slowly: "Command.com is not Dos". That should help. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 10:28:22 -0500 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: How much would it go for...? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:31:03 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx, its philosopy and history (which is the proof) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > (Japan) has not been forth-coming (morphy). Unfortunately, palmtops > cannot be made from parts off the shelf (except possibly the Palm, for which > there seems to be a significant amount of parts available). > Okay, how about a Palm-type machine that's DOS-compatible? If the "Linux DA" folks can stuff Linux into a Palm form factor, we can do the same for DOS! We could approach the manufacturer of the Linux DA, and ask them to produce a few thousand units with DOS burned in ROM instead of Linux. Of course, the real work would be in developing the ROM image. Starting with something like FreeDOS, we would need to develop an implementation that runs most DOS applications, even though it's on an "alien" hardware platform. Would it be necessary to actually emulate Intel hardware? I know almost nothing about such matters, but it seems to me that the really tough part would be making that tiny Palm screen usable by DOS applications that expect CGA/EGA/VGA. What else? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:37:44 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Foxpro 2.6 running on the Lx200 In-Reply-To: <012f01c16ca1$32236740$9dacc8cb@pksharmacal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > for years i've been trying to run a very tiny > accounting program under FoxBase2.0/2.1 snip > happily over a network .. but found that > even the compiled version (using Foxpcomp) > with the ' .fox' extension ran rather slow ! Foxbase also works on the LX. I once tried an old copy but have since deleted it because I did not need it. It is a whole lot smaller than foxpro and would be a great choice for someone with space constraints. I would also advise it for someone that already knows foxbase or dbase as it's not a good interactive database. > I guessed running FoxPro2x would be even slower. is that not so ? I've noticed that Foxpro is actually a lot faster than foxbase for many tasks (sorting, indexing, searching, etc). It uses extended memory. It does take much longer to load than foxbase because it's a large exec with an overlay. I'm also using it on a speed doubled LX so YMMV. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:37:46 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? Comments: To: mikeschn@ameritech.net In-Reply-To: <002f01c16eb3$548c3280$0200005a@candy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to sell mine a while ago and it went as high as $470. It did not meet my reserve and I chose to keep it as a backup instead. The unit was not in great shape and needed a keyboard repair so I was probably asking for too much. Units with less on-board memory that are in good shape and come with extras go for a lot of money, tho. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1295316402 Also try looking at ebay completed items to get an idea of final purchase prices. http://search-completed.ebay.com/search/search.dll?ht=1&query=200lx&So rtProperty=MetaEndSort It's amazing how much more a used 200LX is prized over similar WinCE machines. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Mike Schneider > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:28 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: How much would it go for...? > > > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? > > Mike... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:42:52 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" > I think you miss the point. It almost seems possible if we > overlook a few things and think of it in the right way. So we > can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing > it. If my post were to motive at least the nay sayers to start this thread again, then perhaps it would have accomplished a good thing. It would at least be on topic. :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:47:49 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx, its philosopy and history (which is the proof) Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Martin" > Okay, how about a Palm-type machine that's DOS-compatible? If the "Linux > DA" folks can stuff Linux into a Palm form factor, we can do the same for > DOS! We could approach the manufacturer of the Linux DA, and ask them to > produce a few thousand units with DOS burned in ROM instead of Linux. > > Of course, the real work would be in developing the ROM image. Starting > with something like FreeDOS, we would need to develop an implementation > that runs most DOS applications, even though it's on an "alien" hardware > platform. Would it be necessary to actually emulate Intel hardware? Yes, the whole problem would be hardware. The Palm hardware doesn't really have enough juice to run an emulator succesfully, but if one was written, the most likely candidates would be either the Mac OS or the Newton OS (I don't remember whether the Newton used the same type of processor or not, but I know the Mac does). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:02:14 +0100 Reply-To: K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Organization: RDT Subject: Re: OT Re: Virus from banny38(at)lycos .. ? Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net In-Reply-To: <200111161009.CAA06193@ftel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > You misunderstood. I am sure no one objects to an occasional > off topic message (with or without the OT: indication). But > you posted a message with almost NO INFORMATION, just that you > had a virus. That is alarming, don't you think? > Avi M. -- ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Thank you very, very much for this reply: Now I my fears (relative to the group) are gone. But the message itself was very alarming. 1.) The 'message' - no attachement!!! - I couldn't read, 'cause it's an executable from header to end. 2.) The 'message' tried to redial to the internet, 'cause it's an executable. 3.) The message I couldn't delete, 'cause it's an executable. Well, since now I haven't got it once more. The next I would arrange some filtering. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:59:30 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" To: "Barry" ; Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 11:42 AM Subject: Re: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > > > > I think you miss the point. It almost seems possible if we > > overlook a few things and think of it in the right way. So we > > can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing > > it. > > If my post were to motive at least the nay sayers to start this thread > again, then perhaps it would have accomplished a good thing. It would at > least be on topic. :-) Making new 200lx's probably is possible if you get the volume high enough and have the capital. But we're talking about a lot of capital. Besides, those of us on this list already have 200lx's. I have 3 of them. Also a 100lx and 2 95lx's. Why do we need new ones? I don't want color. It eats up batteries. A backlight would be nice but again it will drain the batteries faster and I do pretty well without it. I sure don't want anything that will make it bigger or heavier. I don't feel a need for a faster cpu. I could get a memory upgrade but I've never felt the need. I never even bothered with the double speed upgrade. It's fast enough. So I'm not sure what would induce me to buy a new one. Well, maybe if the case was off-white or pale yellow. That might be kind of nice. They're perfect just as they are and everybody that wants one has one and the rest will hear that it has dos and be afraid to get near it. But that doesn't mean it's not fun to contemplate what else we might do. I really wouldn't mind having 256 colors and vga compatibility and a 386 and double the battery life. Let's do that. And while we're at it let's make the screen twice as large but make the whole unit half it's current size. And also add a second PCMCIA slot. Or maybe a compact flash slot. We could mount a camera lens somewhere so it can take pictures and build in a virtual 12" speaker so it can play MP3 and I think DVD is essential. Impossible, you say? Ok. Let's hear how you would do it. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:16:36 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy an Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In an earlier off list msg to PK I presented the idea of a "paper white" display. These were common in the mid-80's in the beginnings of desktop publishing. These screens were a delight to look at because they were so bright, being black characters on white background. I could never figure out why this display wasn't incorporated into a palmtop since it all but eliminates the need for backlighting. Were they CGA, EGA, VGA? I don't recall. I do recall the amber CGA screens that were very bright compared to the green. Anyone else remember these? Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:47:13 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy and history (which is the proof) > ....... It almost seems possible if we > overlook a few things and think of it in the right way. So we > can talk about it as though it were possible and dream of doing > it. If it were actually possible we'd either decide to do it or not > to do it. Nothing to dream about there. At least not after > it's done. Not after it's decided not to do it. This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help > Science fiction about reaching the moon > pretty much stopped after we did it. strange .. true, never noticed it .. nowadays it about other places ! > Barry (the impossible dreamer) that's a cute way of descibing yourself :-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:52:11 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Tralornik" >Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:07 PM > Have you considered running: > http://www.xt-ce.com/ > on your J720, and then running DOS and the connectivity pack on top of that? i've done it on the Lx360 .. loaded the Dos shell with xt-ce .. its nice, cute, ok, made me feel sooo happy .. even tried out a few dos programs .. acceptable .. didn't run the connectivity pack on top of that tho' .. ARE you suggesting trying out linux on top of that .. would be an adventure .. running an app on linux OS which is on top of the dos OS which is on top of a WinCe OS .. whew ! i'me very tempted to try it out .. only my lx360 is lying around .. its not a 'suitable' thing .. ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 06:58:27 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: History and Anyone know the the HP sales numbers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Robert K. Meyer" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:00 AM > For Scriptures, if you are not aware... > Tom Hoover has written "His Word" for the LX > http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/ > It uses data files from Online Bible > http://www.onlinebible.net/ > I have on my LX both programs with... what did i do NOW ? scriptures .. goodness .. i'm talking about the Lx philosophy .. looks like it got into an extended discussion .. philosophy of life itself ! .. wow ! .. :-)) the rest is Robert Meyer's use of the laptop : (i must confess .. the uses to which this liliput computer has been put are a revealation to me ! never even imagined that it was being used for so many really critical jobs .. even space shuttle ! .. amazing) > AV 1769 ........ > ..... Henry's commentary. > Victor Beazel wrote: > > > > SanDisk about a third full of ebooks. After loading the Scriptures onto the > > LX, I got tired of the long search-times trying to find a verse, so I > > compiled a GDB-based Topical Guide that is very fast. I love it when another oh ! i see .. this was in response to Victor's post ! ..pk > -- > R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY > http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:09:45 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: About god and the world .. let me know more .. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm changing the subject Daniel .. new thread .. i'm curious .. 'about god and the world as we germans say ' .. what's it .. and i thought that we are too much given to accepting everything in the name of fate and destiny as ordained by the Almighty .. tell me some more .. lite enlightenment :-) ..pk From: "Daniel Hertrich" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:04 PM > And besides that, we also want to talk a little bit "about god and the > world" as we Germans say. And we do so, and no one is complaining. > "and that is well this way" (as Klaus Wowereit, our mayor of Berlin > has said when he told us that he is a gay) ;-) ;-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:03:39 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "David Becher" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 2:01 AM > Avi Meshar writes: > > Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? > > > > I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in > > omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews... > > Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince? will he gasp or will he wince ! i wince under the pain :-D (sorry, it was too tempting to pass) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 07:21:51 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: New thread : the universality of the Lx, its philosopy and history (which is the proof) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Daniel Hertrich" Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 12:04 PM > Well - don't feel offended please, but as yourself say, you are > repeating ... this gets _slightly_ boring. you ARE being modest ! Its too much really ! even i feel so .. and for that reason i've started putting a warning so that such msgs can be skipped by the uninterested .. > Your philosophical "touch" i am 'touched' by your good words Daniel . > I really think you should simply repeat a bit less. no offence taken .. point taken .. less repeats henceforth .. > I at least was fairly impressed by your new point of view > of the big "Phenomenen" HPLX. don't be impressed by my new point .. look at THE phenomenon .. its not the Lx .. it everything the Lx has brought about .. unplanned .. but happened .. and THAT is what should be studied and made to happen .. planned ! (sorry, is that repeating ?) > Yes, you _are_ persistent. ;-) ;-)) > I really think we are all followers. i mean followers of MY views on what you have termed 'the' phenomenon ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 08:12:19 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Brilliant ideas ! From brilliant people Comments: To: garys@lidar.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all ! a public apology is in order .. so i apologise ! it appears that i recd several msgs .. which i replied .. but i addressed it to the list .. under a misunderstanding .. to all the good people who were interested enough in my looong msgs .. and who emailed to me .. i DID think that your msgs were being forwarded to me by the list .. if it hurt your feelings or offended you that i posted a 'public' reply .. sorry again .. never meant to do so .. won't happen again ! I AM INCLUDING GARY'S MSG BELOW (with his permission) .. it will explain matters a bit more .. Hi Gary, replying to you only .. i take it this is a direct mail to me > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 10:10 AM > Your enthusiasm on the palmtop mailing list is very refreshing enthu .. refreshing .. i AM a fresher here ! :-) >however I hope you will consider the following points. your point is taken .. it was an overlooked point on my part .. i mistook our list method .. and thought that it was like yahoo clubs .. every msg is from the person posting .. but in the 'To : ' section .. only my name is mentioned .. actually the clubs on yahoo automatically forward it .. sorry for the confusion .. won't happen again .. > I notice you quoting a number of people who appear to have replied to you in > private. In general this is probably not a good idea unless they approve it > before hand. come on ! its totally bad manners ! publishing pvt mail ! ugh ! i kept on at it .. looks like a public apology is in order .. expalanations are explanatios .. but the damage is done ! i feel awful and silly ! > It would also be useful if you could edit your quoted messages > down as a number of people use their palmtops to obtain this list (I know I > do when on travel). this is a good tip .. will do ! thanks for the rest of your data based on experience ! ..pk >Having made these suggestions it is only fair that I tell you about my >palmtop useage. I have been a palmtop user for over 5 years. I design active >optical remote sensing instruments and use the palmtop as an extended >organiser and design tool. I have programs for electronic and optical design, >symbolic mathematics, satellite orbit determination, optical atmospheric >propagation, laser design and eye safety, lidar (laser radar) sensitivity >analysis and project managment as well as the more typical fax, email, appt >and phone type applications. The instruments I have designed with the aid of >the palmtop have been designed for everything from ground based through >aircraft to space based (space shuttle and satellite) operation. My >employer also holds the altitude record for a 200LX (about 350km orbit >height as a controller for an experiment on the space shuttle) although I was >not involved in that project. Whew ! never even imagined so much ! Wow ! > And yes you can quote this on the list if you wish ;-) gee ! thanks .. made my 'public' apology easier ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:31:07 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Schneider wrote: > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? $50 ... where should I send my check? :-) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 13:40:43 -0500 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ha ha ha... for $50 I'll send you my Sharp EL-5500III. It may not be DOS, but it does Basic. Does that count? :-) Mike... -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Russel Brooks Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:31 PM To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? Mike Schneider wrote: > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? $50 ... where should I send my check? :-) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:50:17 MST Reply-To: curtis j brown Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: curtis j brown Subject: Re: a small trouble with "JKIT" Comments: To: chez-aki@COMLINK.NE.JP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:06:36 +0900 > From: Akio HIKITA > Subject: A small trouble with "JKIT" > > Bonjour, Nathalie, Michel, Richard. > Thanks for your advices about the generating accented > characters. But I have a small trouble with "Jkit". > When I type Japanese just after the accented characters > the accented characters turn to another characters > unreadable. If I put one bite space it's OK. But Japanese > one space(two bites) causes a small trouble like that. > It's just like "a drop in the bucket" but I want to > just report. > > Akio Kon'nichi wa Akio-san. I have had *some* experience in Japanese computing. I might be able to explain this although I don't know the details exactly; I apologize in advance. Maybe someone else can correct me. I don't know how much you know about ASCII so I'll start towards the beginning. ASCII has 255 characters and each letter has a value, A=65, B=66, and so on. Almost all english text has a value of 127 or less. Extra characters like accented letters will have a value greater than 128, in the second half of the ASCII table. Japanese uses more than 255 'letters' (of course) so one way to handle this is to use *2* ASCII characters for each Japanese character. There are already a couple of standards that do this, like JIS, Shift JIS, NEC, etc. I don't remember what JKIT uses, but I will use SJIS as an example. For example, KANJI is written with 4 ASCII characters: KAN is 138 and 191 and JI is 142 and 154. In SJIS, the *first* ASCII character of any Japanese character is always greater than 128. This makes it easy for programmers to mix Japanese and english text in the same document. Anytime the programmer sees a byte that's greater than 128, that byte and the next byte should be used together to draw a Japanese character. If the byte is less than 128, and the previous byte is also less than 128, than that byts is treated as an english letter. So I assume that your accented letters is treated as Japanese text, especially when they are right next to each other and mess each other up. I hope this makes sense. If not, let me know and I will explain it better. -- Curtis Brown =8) mrbrown8@juno.com ("Eat at Juno's") RFC2468 A+, Net+, CCNA "Argh .. must control .. +3 cell phone .. of lawyer .. summoning.." ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:22:18 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts Comments: To: mikeschn@ameritech.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Figured I would change the subject (G) > FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year, > but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it. I am > thinking about writing a Windows PIM that looks almost exactly like the > Conn. Pack. Is there a demand for that? Do most of the 200LX users also use > Windows? I wouldn't know how to sync though. :-( I would guess that many users to use Windows in one incarnation or another. Knowing this group, I have no doubt folks would love it. Have you seen gbwin? It was originally written in Japanese but a version with a lot of the menus translated exists but there are still holes in the translation and Menu or prompt boxes that are meaningless. As for syncing - well, Curtis Cameron has produced an Outlook sync. It would be nice to roll a lot of this stuff together, even if only with some intermediary module of some kind. Just my thoughts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:22:20 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? Comments: To: mikeschn@ameritech.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? WAIT!!! You were just offering to write a Windows Cpack for the HP! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 22:52:25 -0800 Reply-To: freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: How much.. In-Reply-To: <200111170502.fAH52BP54751@trex.uia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:00 AM 11/17/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Mike Schneider wrote: > > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? > >$50 ... where should I send my check? :-) I'll go $55 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:39:56 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: New Topic - Linux on the Lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Schneider wrote: > > FYI, I tried running the Connectivity pack on pocket dos eariler this year, > but that didn't work. Of course I didn't put much effort into it. I tried under PocketDOS but APP200 froze the J720. I could not try under XT-CE as the trial periode was over. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:46:58 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? Comments: To: mikeschn@ameritech.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For $50 send him and envelope to put the REAL check for the Palmtop! Avi M. Mike Schneider wrote: > ha ha ha... > > for $50 I'll send you my Sharp EL-5500III. > > It may not be DOS, but it does Basic. Does that count? :-) > > Mike... > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Russel Brooks > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 1:31 PM > To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: How much would it go for...? > > Mike Schneider wrote: > > If I were to sell my 200LX 32meg DS, how much would it go for? > > $50 ... where should I send my check? :-) > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:46:49 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: Staying with the 200lx Comments: To: davidb@netmedia.net.il MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Becher wrote: > Avi Meshar writes: > > Sheesh! You guys will never forgive, heh? > > > > I did not mean to slight HP95LX, I just made a mistake in > > omitting it. Please, not the thumbscrews... > > Or worse - should we sentence him to (gasp!) a week using wince? I want the thumbscrews, please! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 12:38:42 -0000 Reply-To: Laurence Harvey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laurence Harvey Subject: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is a nuisance. TIA Laurence Harvey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode Laurence Harvey writes: > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is > a nuisance. I agree! Please share with the list, if anyone knows. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 04:41:55 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy In-Reply-To: <000b01c16ec8$71137660$95fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > And while we're at it let's make the screen twice as > large but make the whole unit half it's current size. And also > add a second PCMCIA slot. Or maybe a compact flash slot. We > could mount a camera lens somewhere so it can take pictures and > build in a virtual 12" speaker so it can play MP3 and I think > DVD is essential. > > Impossible, you say? Ok. Let's hear how you would do it. :) Actually, I've seen this on my own LX after a couple packs of cheap beer. I hear it also works on an ugly blind date. - Longden (who still wasn't disappointed the morning after) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:50:32 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: OT: VIRUS...POP server Commands? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:43:18 -0500 (EST) Hello All: I apologize for the OFF TOPIC Request, but I am desperate, and need to make a plea to the collective genius on the LIST. My main email address is getting SPAMMED by a collegue in Australia who seems to have contracted a VIRUS that keeps sending the same message over, and over, and over...well, you get the idea...I have not kept an accurate count, but over 200 in the last 24Hr at lease. I was able to reach them yesterday morning(their time) and they said they were working on it, but I'm still receiving posts this morning. Is there anyway I can TELNET to the POP server and delete all pending messages from a single address, or better, with a certain subject header, without having to download them? Sorry for my ignorance on the subject? FWIW the mail is served by an IBM virtual mainframe system. aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:55:31 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy an MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher wwrote: > In an earlier off list msg to PK I presented > the idea of a "paper white" display. These > were common in the mid-80's in the beginnings > of desktop publishing. These screens were a > delight to look at because they were so bright, > being black characters on white background. > > I could never figure out why this display wasn't > incorporated into a palmtop since it all but > eliminates the need for backlighting. Were they > CGA, EGA, VGA? I don't recall. I do recall the > amber CGA screens that were very bright compared > to the green. Anyone else remember these? I remember the paper white displays. A lot of them also had a resolution that enabled them to portray a sheet of 8.5" x 11" paper. Some were shaped so they could portray 2 sheets of paper. They were mostly designed for use by word processors. I don't think I ever knew of one on a computer that wasn't dedicated to word processing. I found them unbearable. After 10 minutes of looking at one my eyes would begin to water. A lot of people loved them but they would be impossible for me to use. They were a bright light pointing at my face and I had to squint to see the letters on that light. Anyway they couldn't do that on a palmtop. That was a CRT. An LCD display in those days didn't offer that possibility. Today my Palm 3c has a white background but that screen and it's backlight uses a lot of power. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:00:46 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pksharma wrote: > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help I missed that. Do you still have the url? And I'm not saying it's impossible to make a 200lx. After all, HP made them. But it takes a lot of money. HP had a lot of money. If the people in this group have that kind of money maybe we should consider buying HP. Then we can build whatever we want. I suspect it can be had pretty cheap right now. I can contribute $10. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:22:07 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: eBay on the LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:20:54 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I have started to become a little more interested in eBay. it there a text gateway for viewing items?(I realize bidding has to be done thru secure channels). aTdHvAaNnKcSe & Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:58:15 +0100 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Wireless (802.11b) on hp200lx? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! On my Cassiopeia E-115 I am using a CF sized wireless network card (Symbol) I would like to have it in the machine that I use instead :) I tried it in the hp200lx just to see if it would fit or crash the hp200lx. It did fit nicely if I used a PCMCIA adapter I then tried (with no hope for success) this bat file: lxcic lxen2216 0x66 The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not). The card was found and initialized etc etc. So, what are the chance to get this thing to work? Could any one tell me I am out of luck so that I can drop this idea. Thanks. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 10:36:03 -0800 Reply-To: James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run under Windows? I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP and ME, which I don't have to test. Can anyone say if there is a Windows where you can't run the CPack? J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:11:33 -0800 Reply-To: James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: HP Connectivity Pack Comments: To: bnj@MYREALBOX.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi. I saw on the HPLX list that you are having video problems with the CPack under Windows 2000. I am using that setup and do not have any problems. Perhaps this will help: When I originally, tried running CPack under Win2K, I could get the program to start up, but once I got to the AppMan screen, it would just freeze up. This was strange to me, since it worked fine under Win98. Then, I looked into the APP200.BAT file, which actually starts up the program. I toyed around with things in there, and I ended up with a solution for me. In the section which loads the CGA video driver, I changed one line: :RUNCG cg.com /Q <----- This line launcher.com cg.com /Q un200.exe -c I removed the "/Q" part and it works fine now, including doing ALT-TAB back and forth with Windows. I don't know what the /Q setting does, but it doesn't cause a problem. Let me know if this works for you. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:37:29 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy > pksharma wrote: > > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, > > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we > > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger > > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web > > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is > > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help > > I missed that. Do you still have the url? Yes : http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm and the link works ! ..pk (rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us ) (this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:35:34 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy In-Reply-To: <01f701c16f68$d03c9e00$866dc5cb@pksharmacal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have a Japanese teacher staying at my house who could translate this for us. Unfortunately, she is at a conference in DC and won't be back to NC until Sunday night. Perhaps Monday night I can get it posted. Jim At 08:07 AM 11/17/01, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry" >To: >Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM >Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy > > > > pksharma wrote: > > > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, > > > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we > > > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger > > > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web > > > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is > > > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help > > > > I missed that. Do you still have the url? > > > >Yes : >http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm > >and the link works ! > >..pk > >(rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us ) >(this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:43:46 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy In-Reply-To: <01f701c16f68$d03c9e00$866dc5cb@pksharmacal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If you go to this url: http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm (It seems to have an extra "25" in the url from the one below.) It shows this Instant Tech with what likes the CPack 200 running on it. Also, on a search I found that Educalc offered this computer for sale in 1995. Jim At 08:07 AM 11/17/01, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Barry" >To: >Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:30 PM >Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy > > > > pksharma wrote: > > > This is solid feet-on-the-ground logic .. BUT barry, > > > it IS being done, no ? the japanese web page .. we > > > can tell a bit more after someone deciphers it .. Roger > > > .. Rudi .. do you know japanese ? the japanese web > > > page of a palmtop look alike posted a few days ago is > > > very impressive .. but totally in japanese .. need help > > > > I missed that. Do you still have the url? > > > >Yes : >http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525252520tech.htm > >and the link works ! > >..pk > >(rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us ) >(this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !) > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:03:47 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ted and Laurence, On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0500, Theodore Heise wrote: > > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the 200LX to open in its > > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press Fn-Space every time which is > > a nuisance. I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it, though). So the only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which invokes 1-2-3 and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro. Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:03:48 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fwd: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Al, here is a message written by Stefan Peichl some time ago. Maybe this is a starting point for you. I have never tried something different than viewing items on the palmtop, though. GTX daniel --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:10:51 +0000 From: Stefan Peichl Subject: eBay on the Palmtop To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU I'm new to eBay, but if I remember right, I thought, one could not bid on the palmtop? I didn't try the initial bid on the HP, but after my first bid I received a confirmation email through POST/LX and later another, that someone had put a higher bid. The second email contained a full URL to the subject I was bidding for. I used the grab function of POST/LX (key G) and appended the URL to HV.HOT. Then I entered HV, opened that URL from HV.HOT and increased my bid. It worked with no problem. Because I do all my email on the palmtop, this is a very convenient way of bidding fast on the HP from wherever I am. BTW: I'm informed by SMS about every new email I received. I think these tools (Palmtop, WWW/LX, SMS) are close to perfect for eBay stuff. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml --- end of forwarded message --- -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:29:25 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011117164016.00a0bd00@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Jim Westley wrote: > If you go to this url: > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%25252525252520tech.htm > > (It seems to have an extra "25" in the url from the one below.) > > It shows this Instant Tech with what likes the CPack 200 running on it. Amikai, an online web-based translator translates the text above the CPack pictures as: "* KONEPAKU was put in. Although are installed using INT5F and CGACG.COM, and both startings are carried out, an application does not work so that a memory may be tight. Especially the way of INT5F will be annoyed by too much lateness. It is a starting screen once." It's clears as mud (yet still useful for someone who knows very little Japanese ;-), but I think it's a safe bet that KONEPAKU is the Connectivity Pack software. bye, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:44:56 -0500 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed, for better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no interest because of the lack of sync. I would understand. The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM sooooo much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from the J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an option. In fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis already wrote a sync program. Your thoughts? Mike.. >===== Original Message From James Grenert ===== >While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run under >Windows? I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP >and ME, which I don't have to test. Can anyone say if there is a Windows where >you can't run the CPack? > >J. P. Grenert >grenert@yahoo.com > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals >http://personals.yahoo.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Schneider" > I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look > similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed, for > better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no interest > because of the lack of sync. I would understand. > > The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM sooooo > much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from the > J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an option. In > fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis > already wrote a sync program. > > Your thoughts? > > Mike.. Are you thinking about the HP PIMs for Windows? You can get it at the link below (copy it as one line): http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/count-redir.pl?dbname=hppim.zip&URL=http://ww w.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/hppim.zip HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 19:08:01 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before you laugh at this request, let me say that it is serious. An executive at a client recently decided he needs the "best" palmtop. I was asked if I could make a suggestion, I guess since they always see me carrying my HP200. This guy is about as computer illiterate as they come, so I wouldn't dare suggest a 200LX. For example, a couple years back he had to get a laptop (all the other executives carried one). He got one, but only carried around the case with papers in it - the laptop made it too heavy. As far as I know, he didn't use the laptop. He reads/ sends e-mails by having his secretary print it out/type it in for him. Once on a business trip we were sent to the airport to pick up an urgent package for him - it turned out to be his e-mail that his secretary printed for him! You get the idea. I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine. I haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of you who are "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or suggestions? Thanks, -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:16:29 +0100 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? In-Reply-To: <200111180108.fAI181gM020111@mail.hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Chris Lott wrote: Ý...¨ > I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine. I > haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of you who are > "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or > suggestions? You don't think you could get away with giving him an etch-a-sketch in a Palm casing? Sounds like it will be just as useful ;-) bye, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:12:33 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code, because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it more often on my notebook. I made the following corrections and improvements: - no more scrambled screens in PE after GOTO LINE or FIND AND REPLACE... - scrolling up and down is fast now - the whole writing to the screen is much faster now Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:16:09 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Lott" > I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine. I > haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of you who are > "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or > suggestions? If he is that computer illiterate, a Palm would be the best choice (Wince is overkill). Narrowing the choice from there requires research on his part, but any of the cheaper monochrome Palms would do for what you described (Palm IIIx or Palm Vx). However, the built-in Mail program would not do for serious email use. Again, some research on the choices available is required. Check www.palmgear.com. If graphity or an external keyboard are not an option, then Wince is the way to go. I know little about it. For more comparative study of the different platforms, check http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/ HTH Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:21:02 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit VGA support. IIRC, Palrun does not have it. Palmpc is buggy, so not a great alternative. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code, because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it more often on my notebook. I made the following corrections and improvements: - no more scrambled screens in PE after GOTO LINE or FIND AND REPLACE... - scrolling up and down is fast now - the whole writing to the screen is much faster now Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:35:04 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Would this be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc) or Windows CE? If for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc) then I think it would be GREAT ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Schneider" To: Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts > I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look > similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed, for > better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no interest > because of the lack of sync. I would understand. > > The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM sooooo > much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from the > J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an option. In > fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis > already wrote a sync program. > > Your thoughts? > > Mike.. > > >===== Original Message From James Grenert ===== > >While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run > under > >Windows? I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP > >and ME, which I don't have to test. Can anyone say if there is a Windows > where > >you can't run the CPack? > > > >J. P. Grenert > >grenert@yahoo.com > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals > >http://personals.yahoo.com > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:04:04 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit James Grenert wrote: > > While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run under > Windows? I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP > and ME, which I don't have to test. Can anyone say if there is a Windows where > you can't run the CPack? Here it did run under WinME, WinNT and Win2K. I had to create a multiboot environment allowing to boot into plain does however. Filer would not transfer files over the serial cable in the DOS window under Windoze. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:22:38 -0500 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts Comments: To: Tralornik Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc) Mike... >===== Original Message From "Tralornik" ===== >Would this be for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc) or Windows CE? > >If for Windows (95/98/NT/XP, etc, etc) then I think it would be GREAT ! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mike Schneider" >To: >Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 5:44 PM >Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts > > >> I was actually thinking about a windows PIM, not a CPack. It would look >> similar and use the same keystrokes, but it would run at windows speed, >for >> better or worse as it were. If there is no need, or if there is no >interest >> because of the lack of sync. I would understand. >> >> The only reason I am even considering it is because I missed the PIM >sooooo >> much when I migrated from the 200Lx to the J720. Now I am migrating from >the >> J720 to a Sony Picturebook, and running the connectivity pack is an >option. In >> fact, possibly a more viable option than writing a new pim, since Curtis >> already wrote a sync program. >> >> Your thoughts? >> >> Mike.. >> >> >===== Original Message From James Grenert ===== >> >While a Windows CPack would be nice, doesn't the original one already run >> under >> >Windows? I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for >XP >> >and ME, which I don't have to test. Can anyone say if there is a Windows >> where >> >you can't run the CPack? >> > >> >J. P. Grenert >> >grenert@yahoo.com >> > >> > >> >__________________________________________________ >> >Do You Yahoo!? >> >Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals >> >http://personals.yahoo.com >> > >> >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 04:41:29 -0500 Reply-To: D&A Software Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Support Subject: D&A Software Announces .... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, I'll make it simple MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted freeware. You can download and use them freely. The details were posted on D&A Sotware website Thursday/Friday night, and announced first to the Mailing List (hint: This is an incentive to join the list.) There are a few changes to the site in addition: - The splash page (index.html) was simplified to make it easier to read and use. You can click on the rather largish invitation to enter the main page. - The splash page also has some useful links if that is all you need. - One of the links is called "File Index". It is a rather exhaustive list of all the files we offer to you to download. They are grouped roughly by product. Some of the files will disappear, since they are contained in the ZIP archives. - Also on the splash page someone will surely ask what the meaning of the H link and the T link is. Click on them: H will bring up the indexHV.html - the main page that HV users get when they enter the site (I check out the identity of the browser used.) The T link stands for "Tony" ... You will see what he works on - Roboweb/LX. Roboweb/LX of course has a prominent spot on the main page (index1.html and the corresponding indexHV.html). - I believe all the pages that needed to be updated, were. If you find otherwise, please feel free to notify me! - Andreas just sent to me MindMap/LX 2.0 which has a few things added, and I will try to upload it this weekend. - The source code for these programs is not available, please do not ask. Enjoy! Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com To sign up to our Announcements Mailing List, email to: da.info-subscribe@topica.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:13:48 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode Daniel Hertrich writes: > > I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable > from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it, though). So the > only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which invokes 1-2-3 > and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro. > Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be > possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key. That sounds like a possibility, but I don't think I want the feature badly enough to put that much effort into it. Thanks for thinking about it, though. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:57:38 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > > Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after? In the GUI screens of PIM/PE the appointment entries do not display well (palmpc display is better). My secretary is complaining (g). PALMPC displays the rectangular screen of the palmtop while PALRUN uses full screen mode. I'm not sure about the advantages/disadvantages of this. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:59:11 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: returned mail -- AVI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cut & pasted from my isp : This is the Postfix program at host cal.vsnl.net.in. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please contact If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program : connect to mail.ftel.netÝ205.138.219.7¨: Connection refused WHERE TO SEND PVT MAIL TO YOU, AVI ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:51:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Wireless (802.11b) on hp200lx? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tomas, On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:58:15 +0100, Tomas Moberg wrote: > I then tried (with no hope for success) this bat file: > lxcic > lxen2216 0x66 > > The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not). > The card was found and initialized etc etc. > > So, what are the chance to get this thing to work? > Could any one tell me I am out of luck so that I can drop this idea. Usually Wireless LAN cards draw too much power for the LX while actively sending packets. This might have changed with CF sized cards, but actually I doubt it. Try to find technical specs for hte card! Regarding initialization and communication issues, Stefan is probably the one who can advise you. I know that wlan cards have a mode in which they look to the system as normal Ethernet cards, this makes necessary the use of the so-called ad hoc mode. But I don't know if this is implemented in the card firmware or if you have to use a driver for that purpose. Good luck, and please report if you got it to work! GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:57:31 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Wireless (802.11b) on hp200lx? Comments: To: daniel.hertrich@GMX.DE In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Hertrich" at Nov 18, 2001 01:51:51 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The hp did not explode, but it looked as if it worked (but it did not). > > The card was found and initialized etc etc. > > Usually Wireless LAN cards draw too much power for the LX while > actively sending packets. For testing, don't forget that you can supply power to the card using the DoubleSlot adaptor and an external power supply. Obviously not useful for portable use, but it could at least demonstrate the software feasability of your experiment. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:53:11 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: : Re: New thread : the universality of the Lx,its philosopy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > pksharma wrote: > Yes : > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%2525252525 20tech.htm > > and the link works ! > > ..pk > > (rudi, roger ! know japanese ? cud u translate for us ) > (this pda looks just like the Lx200 .. looks great !) Thanks for that link. I'd like to know more about it, too. But I'm not sure why you're having trouble reading it. It seems pretty clear to me. It's a h palmtop. The specs are especially interesting: q B @ @ @ @ @ . I'm not sure how to translate the price of " into American Dollars, though. Barry (I can't believe I'm sending this) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:04:09 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Lott wrote: > I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm > or WinCE machine. I haven't been keeping up with > these, however. Could any of you who are "up" on > these units please drop me a note with any comments > or suggestions? I'm a little biased, having a Palm myself. But for this guy I think the Palm is the obvious choice. It's simple to learn. It takes about 30 minutes practice to be very comfortable with Graffiti. After that you don't really have to learn to use the Palm. You just use it. It's really all about simplicity. There's also a tremendous amount of software available for it, including things that cooperate with Office and just about any other program. I'm not really trying to tout the Palm as the better machine. That depends on the user's needs. But from your description of this user I think it makes a lot of sense. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:11:53 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP > and ME, which I don't have to test. I have run both the 100LX and 200LX Connectivity Packs under Win ME. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:11:57 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: CPack on Jornada 690 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity = Pack on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE. I modified the standard app100.bat by = REMing out both references to cg.com /q. I was then able to run this batch file = and open CPack. I opened and look around in my standard Appt, Phone, Notetake= r, and Database files. I opened Calc, but got "insuficient memory" when I tried = to open a Solver file with a lot of formulas in it. Filer will run as well. = I could not get XT-CE to assign the Jornada's IR port to one of the DOS Com ports. I had hoped to make an IR connection between Filer on the 690 and 200LX, but I don't really need that. Now I can keep the same PIM data on both machines without any conversion hassels. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.eduSubject: Re: Go=09 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 01:04:19 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote: Stefan You use a laptop with a pcmciamodem in the slot. this is what I want to do: My main desktop machine has a Isdn phone connected to Com1 which I use to access the internet. Then this machine is connected to my homenetwork so that all computers hooked to the network can also access the internet. The Hplx is also connected and it downloads mail and news just fine. But it is a bit slow. What I want to do is to move WWW/LX to the Hplx's memorycard. Stick the memorycard into my laptop which is connected to the homenetwork and download mails and news through the network with a much higher speed than on the Hplx itself. I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it. I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx. Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in the other pcmcia slot on the laptop. Have anyone tried something like this before? Can I do this in some other way? I could ofcourse set up WWW/LX on the main machine and then move the .i files, but I would like to do the above if it is possible. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:24:11 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote: > I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it. > > I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx. > > Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in > the other pcmcia slot on the laptop. What was the problem? Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the second card? But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted? Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the problem? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:32:11 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use an application launcher that does a keyboard macro to start it zoomed. Wouldn't it be possible to use exkeys to launch 123 and then do a fn-zoom right after. You can even assign this to the '123' key using exkey. let's see.... yes, I reprogrammed the 123 key with this entry on my exkey.ini file and it works: {123}={123}{zoom} I know that you could get exkey at palmtop.net but it seems that it's not around any more. Every time I've tried to go there recently it's gone. I think I just have the dumb luck to try it only when it's temporarily down. It's somewhat disconcerting because www.palmtoppaper.com is also down.... :-/ Hal did say that they're doing maintenance on it, tho. BTW: just realized that this will cause the zoom feature to toggle every time you press 123. Still, it's easier than pressing fn-zoom as you just have to press it again to zoom back. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Daniel Hertrich > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 4:04 PM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode > > > Hi Ted and Laurence, > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 08:17:24 -0500, Theodore Heise > wrote: > > > > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the > 200LX to open in its > > > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press > Fn-Space every time which is > > > a nuisance. > > I have also need for such a feature. I doubt that it is configurable > from within 1-2-3 (have never really searched for it, > though). So the > only way I can imagine is to create a system macro which > invokes 1-2-3 > and then does a Fn-Space and call 1-2-3 using that macro. > Using Exkey or some keystuffing / -mapping program it may even be > possible to put such a macro onto the 1-2-3 key. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:23:55 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Comments: To: D&A Software Support MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us? It seems you folks are not charging for very many things. Is this the beginning of the end? :-( Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "D&A Software Support" MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted freeware. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:32:49 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:12:33 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > D&A kindly handed me over once more the Palrun source code, > because I wanted to make some improvements since I use it > more often on my notebook. > > I made the following corrections and improvements: GREAT! I'm glad someone is still improving it! IIRC I have had problems when using it on my laptop (HP Omnibook 800CT): In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message). There were lots of coloured blocks (looked like ASCII character 177 or so), some of them blinking, and if you watched the "picture" exactly, you could eventually recognize the actual layout. But of course couldn't read anything. I could try to send you a screenshot of that if you think it could help you. This was pretty annoying since I had to restart Post/LX everytime this appeared. IIRC, it happened with Palrun as well as with Palmpc. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:35:11 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Lotus 123 Zoom Mode In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT A good suggestion. I just tried the same, using the built-in key200 program (d:\bin\key200.com) and it worked. When I press {123}, I get 123 in the normal mode for a split second before it toggles over to the hi-res mode. My autoexec.bat has this line: key200 a:\key200.map and the file a:\key200.map has several mapping lines to which I've added this: 123 : 123 Zoom Works like a charm and is quite easily done with the built-ins, tho as Ed pointed out, pressing 123 now also toggles the zoom mode, tho that's not necessarily a bad thing. - Longden > I use an application launcher that does a keyboard macro to start it > zoomed. Wouldn't it be possible to use exkeys to launch 123 and then > do a fn-zoom right after. You can even assign this to the '123' key > using exkey. let's see.... yes, I reprogrammed the 123 key with this > entry on my exkey.ini file and it works: > > {123}={123}{zoom} > > BTW: just realized that this will cause the zoom feature to toggle > every time you press 123. Still, it's easier than pressing fn-zoom as > you just have to press it again to zoom back. > > > > Does anyone have a method for forcing Lotus 123 on the > > 200LX to open in its > > > > high resolution mode. Currently I have to press > > Fn-Space every time which is > > > > a nuisance. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:54:15 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops, it does have it, but it looks like blown out cga. Do hplx programs take advantage of the added space? If not, then I don't seee the point of that display. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" > VGA support. IIRC, Palrun does not have it. Palmpc is buggy, so not a > great alternative. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Peichl" > Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after? > > Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:01:10 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: ANN: Charge 2.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone Charge, the replacement tsr for the built-in System Manager battery charging system, has been updated with some bug fixes and features. If anyone hasn't tried Charge out and would like to but hasn't been able to get it because S.U.P.E.R. is having problems just send me an email. I'll attach it to you. I also have a copy of BattLog which I can send along with it. Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:44:08 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: 56k Cellular Modems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone I have been using a Viking 56k analog cellular ready modem in my 200LX with the Startac 7868W phone with absolutely no problems. It is a nice backup solution in remote areas without digital coverage. Has anyone been using any other cellular modems that work with the 200LX? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:26:42 -0800 Reply-To: sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Meshar Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Domingo: I had another message with speculation. I think it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex ... As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it represent changes? Sure. The market for the products we released as freeware is extremely narrow and to reduce fixed expenses, we made these products freeware. It takes now a lot less time (and expense) to sell TimeTracker/LX or MindMap/LX for example ... If anyone has a product in their head (or working) which he/she wants to sell through D&A, let me know! So changes? yes! End? God, I hope not! (Nathalie, sorry for using the word "God". No context, other than an exclamation, intended. ...) I remember that years ago, when the 300LX (Wince) came out, people speculated it was "The End". That was years ago, and plenty was done in this market since. So much for "The End" proclamations. Maybe we'll see the end of "The End" proclamations? Avi M. Domingo wrote: > Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us? > It seems you folks are not charging for very many things. Is this the > beginning of the end? :-( ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:54:35 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: databases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database ALWAYS to a certain database? In other words, I want one Icon that ALWAYS opens database A and one Icon that ALWAYS opens database B. I know I could do this through Macros, But I would rather have ICONS. Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:55:20 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Sample source for Wap Browsers? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know of any? One would work on the LX nicely. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 15:59:05 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? Comments: To: Chris Lott In-Reply-To: <200111180108.fAI181gM020111@mail.hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Look into thos new RIM/Blackberry pagers with wireless email, contacts, etc. If he relies heavily on his secretary/assistant, that won't change. It's too easy to call someone and say 'do this' than to start doing it yourself (and time _is_ money, after all). What this guy needs is better ways of saying 'do this' to people and getting the feedback from their execution of his directives. Wireless email is the killer app for this guy. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Chris Lott > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 8:08 PM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? > > > Before you laugh at this request, let me say that it is serious. An > executive at a client recently decided he needs the "best" palmtop. > I was asked if I could make a suggestion, I guess since they always > see me carrying my HP200. > > This guy is about as computer illiterate as they come, so I wouldn't > dare suggest a 200LX. For example, a couple years back he > had to get > a laptop (all the other executives carried one). He got one, but > only carried around the case with papers in it - the laptop made it > too heavy. As far as I know, he didn't use the laptop. He reads/ > sends e-mails by having his secretary print it out/type it > in for him. > Once on a business trip we were sent to the airport to pick up an > urgent package for him - it turned out to be his e-mail that his > secretary printed for him! You get the idea. > > I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE > machine. I > haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of > you who are > "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or > suggestions? > > Thanks, > > -Chris Lott > > > > -- > > ************************************************************ > ************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. > rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: > 256-534-9067 > Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: > 256-534-9069 > ************************************************************ > ************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 22:10:49 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: OT: "BEST" Palmtop for Executive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Chris, On 17 Nov 2001 at 19:08, Chris Lott wrote: > I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE machine. I > haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of you who are > "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or > suggestions? > after all you told us about this man, I would suggest him a new dictation gadget. Or a WinCE machine with voice recording capability ;-) cheers, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:59:18 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hear, hear.... --------reply seperator--------- Hi Domingo: I had another message with speculation. I think it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex ... As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:37:55 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: databases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database > ALWAYS to a certain database? > > In other words, I want one Icon that ALWAYS opens database A and one Icon > that ALWAYS opens database B. > > I know I could do this through Macros, But I would rather have ICONS. If you just want to view the databases, you could associate an icon with the freeware dbv.exe (DB View) from the SUPER site. The command line for the icon would take the path and filename of the GDB/NDB you wanted to open. If you actually want to open the databases using the Database app, there are several ways, but I use the OPEN.exe program along with kbuf128.sys (works like some other keyboard stuffing programs but is small), and setup an icon on SysMgr to run OPEN, again with the pathname and filename of the database as the argument. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 16:55:09 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: CPack on Jornada 690 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity= Pack > on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE. With further "playing", I found that I can't add a new appointment. When = I try to add a new one, the whole XT-CE program shuts down and I end up back at = the WinCE main screen. So, for now I will just use it for viewing my 200LX = files. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:21:06 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > > > I've run it successfully on every version of Windows except for XP > > and ME, which I don't have to test. > > I have run both the 100LX and 200LX Connectivity Packs under Win ME. could you transfer files ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:10:41 -0500 Reply-To: Ian Gifford Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Gifford Subject: TECH: SMMx 1.00b - "Not Free Table Block" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have been running SMMx 1.00b beta on my HP200LX, DS/8MB/440MB for a few years w/ only minor problems i.e., locks up when adding apps, etc. but now I am experiencing a new problem. When I try to run an app e.g., .exm, .exe, etc. I get the following message displayed at the bottom left of the SMMx screen "Not Free Table Block". The app fails to run...any and all suggestions welcomed. FWIW I read the SMMx.doc but I failed to resolve the problem. Finally, is SMMx 1.00b beta the latest release? I like SMMx but this latest problem has me looking at alternative solutions. -- Ian Gifford giffordi@ieee.org ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 14:25:59 -0800 Reply-To: freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: OT - domains In-Reply-To: <200111180501.fAI51LP07172@trex.uia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Can someone please advise me (off list) re: domains (parking, activating, forwarding, etc..) How does this stuff work? Tommy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:13:29 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:24:11 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Martin Hellu there.. > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it. > > > > I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx. > > > > Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in > > the other pcmcia slot on the laptop. > > What was the problem? Well first what I do now: Main desktop connected to internet and also connected to my home hub. Hplx connected to hub running WWW/LX. This is my batchfile: lxcic e: lxen2216 0x66 cd \ cd w Www.exe isp_ether I then can have the Hplx download mail/news while I surf the web on the desktop. What I want to do is to run WWW/LX on one of my machines that are connected to my hub. I want to run it on a faster machine than my Hplx. Either run it directly on the memorycard which I then insert in my Hplx. Or run WWW/LX on one of the machines and transfer the files after the online run to the card. That way I can surf on my main machine and still download mail and news with WWW/LX and much faster. I can run WWW/LX on my main desktop machine and have it dial in and connect, but then only WWW/LX "sees" the connection and I can not surf while it does this. How can I do what I want to do? Somebody mention a package which made it possible for WWW/LX to use the "normal" connection that I have. Please advice. I have the necessary hardware but need some software to make this happend. > Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the > second card? > > But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted? I think it will be to complicated to do it this way. I need a softwarepackage that runs on the laptop in Win 98 that lets WWW/LX on the inserted memorycard access the internet through the network. > Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses > one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two > cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the > problem? I do not think I can get it to work this way. I will try some more setting up WWW/LX on the laptop and then use Lxcic, Lxen2216 and dhcp.exe. But there must be some other clever way of doing this. All I want to do is to run WWW/LX on the connection that are already there through the network. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 20:16:17 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was going to simply ignore the beginining of Avi's reply, since I did not understand it, but since it appears John understood it, what was Avi refering to? I was not asking about speculation, but about the future of D&A and Andreas intentions, since it seems he won't be making much money for much longer. What with giving away everything and all . . . Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" > Hear, hear.... > > --------reply seperator--------- > > > Hi Domingo: I had another message with speculation. I think > it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex > ... > > As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:35:54 +0800 Reply-To: "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Fw: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the spec for Instant tech PTV-30. I thought I'd sent it to the list, hmmm....? Sorry I can't read Japanese. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.S." To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Daniel Hertrich" Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 9:21 AM Subject: Re: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > The machine is too big compare to HP200LX, it has almost the > same hardware spec as HP200LX. > Here are the details: > CPU V30 7.16Mhz=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1= @=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@=A1@. > Memory ROM 1.5MB, RAM 2MB > Display CGA 640 x 200 dot > Keyboard=A1@=A1@ Qwerty 82 Key > Battery AA x 2 CR 2025 > I/O =BC=D0=B7=C7=A1@ Serial & Pararel > OS MS-DOS 5.0 > PCMCIA Type 2 x 2 > Size 235 x 116 x 31 mm > Weight 600 g > Built-in MS work 2.0 - and thus very little memory left for > user. > Compare to HP200lx, the baterry life is short specially when the memory card is pluged in. > and it's too big, too heavy and no numeric > keypad. Booting process from any memory card is slow. > It has 2 PCMCIA slots - but it doesn't recognize my 8M CARRY > PCMCIA memory card, the 48M Sandisk is ok. > bigger key size - but can't do thumb typing. > > The screen you saw is the CPack running on that machine, > according to the author it is slow. > > Roger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Hertrich" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications > > > > Hi Roger > > > > On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:06:27 +0800, "R.S." > wrote: > > > > > Check this site out, > > > > http://www13.u-page.so-net.ne.jp/ka2/is-hidai/instant%252525 > > > 25252520tech.htm > > > But it is very slow. > > > > WOW, what is this?? I cannot read anything of course ;-) > Just see the > > images. > > How did they get the Application manager into that device? > > What are the specs? > > > > GTX > > daniel > > > > > > -- > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:45:01 -0800 Reply-To: Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Other thing is that the resale value of every license of MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX and Quick/LX just went to zero. But, never mind that. I agree that it's great to have great free software, but I can't see how selling these licenses was much hard work, through Paypal or Billpoint or anywhere else. If anything, the amount of work would depend on the intricacies of the copy protection system. Never seems to have stopped the guy who made Buddy. Not that I expect a clear answer, but it would nice. I love to help and pay for software and give feedback when it's valued. Will feedback have the same value with all this software being copywrited freeware? I could hear how someone would be told "hey, stop complaining: it's free". Heck, on the other hand, every time I gave feedback I ended up feeling like it was summarily dismissed as "feature cramming" or something similar and then regretting I ever got into it. Which is why you never hear me give feedback ever anymore. I can tell when a creator or writer truly wants feedback, and that's never been the case with the D&A software, AFAIK. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Domingo" To: Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... > Does this means Andreas is getting ready to leave us? > It seems you folks are not charging for very many things. Is this the > beginning of the end? :-( > > Domingo > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D&A Software Support" > > > MindMap/LX, TimeTracker/LX, and Quick/LX are now copyrighted > freeware. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 14:51:37 +1100 Reply-To: Alex Kamvissis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alex Kamvissis Subject: PALRUN & WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006F_01C17109.B0ADA960" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C17109.B0ADA960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing power off = & reboot to regain control). The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure if I have = the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =3D PORT 3?). First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need some very = basic guidance or point in the direction to where it has already been = spelt out before. Thanks in anticipation. ------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C17109.B0ADA960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trying to use WWW on my laptop but = computer is=20 hanging(needing power off & reboot to regain control).
 
The trouble occurs when I attempt to go = Online(F5).=20 Not sure if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 = =3D PORT=20 3?).
 
First time user visa vi Laptop & = Palmtop=20 software so I need some very basic guidance or point in the direction to = where=20 it has already been spelt out before.
 
Thanks in = anticipation.
------=_NextPart_000_006F_01C17109.B0ADA960-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 04:24:31 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob > Office Depot here in Richmond, VA has a 4 pack for $8.99. |-) Thanks for the good info. I just checked at the Office Depot here in = Amarillo and got the same price! Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:27:33 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, >>Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?<< What about emulating the key with ? Not all programs work with / to reach palmtop menus... That was implemented before, but never worked stable, if I remember right. Anyway, I'm looking forward to Palrun 1.5 (if I count right ) Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:31:36 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C17099.EDD263A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C17099.EDD263A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a 100LX ? Also would the card described below require a driver? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ken Hansen=20 To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk = 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now = prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500". I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for = this seller" to see others... = http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294724938 Ken ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C17099.EDD263A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a = 100LX=20 ?
 
Also would the card described below require a=20 driver?
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ken=20 Hansen
Sent: Saturday, November 10, = 2001 1:39=20 PM
Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk = cards on=20 eBay

Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a = customer) is=20 selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have = several with=20 buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller -=20 "ssinc1500".
 
I bought several items from them, and = have always=20 been happy...
 
Here is a link to the one I bought, = click on=20 "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D1294= 724938
 
Ken
------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C17099.EDD263A0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:23:36 -0800 Reply-To: James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ýregarding CPack use under Windows¨ > could you transfer files ? To tell you the truth, I've never tried. My desktop has a flash card reader, and my laptops of course have PCMCIA slots, so I just pop the flash card into the reader and I can read them just like another hard disk. I think HP Staber said that you need to boot to DOS to get the serial connection working (i. e., it doesn't work under Windows). Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:09:18 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: FS: Siemens phone <-> HPLX data cable for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The cable is sold! -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:06:00 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks for the specs, Roger. So the main differences are the 2 PCMCIA slots, the parallel port and the size and weight. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:13:46 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Extract ing Built-in Applications Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Danie hertrich wrote: < > Thanks for the specs, Roger. > > So the main differences are the 2 PCMCIA slots, the parallel port and > the size and weight. And don't forget it has a V30 processor!!! It can also run 8080 instructions So for the real diehard CP/M oldies, they can run their old CPM programs in native mode!! Michel ( just gave away my old Epson PX-8 last year :-( ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 05:18:41 -0500 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Transfering files from 200LX to desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys, I use a Lexar USB card reader to copy my files from my 200LX to my desktop. I use Win2K and upgraded my driver to the Win2K driver on the Lexar site. However, twice now, I placed my PCMCIA card in the reader, and the reader wiped it clean. Has anyone else ever had such a problem? My fix was to reformat the harddrive and reload windows. I also back up my card more regularly now. :-( Still, I'm concerned that the culprit that cleaned off my flash card is going to return some day. Any thoughts or ideas? Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:21:26 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: PALRUN & WWW/LX In-Reply-To: <007301c170ad$9815c060$df148690@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo Alex, I have an older laptop (Mitac 4020), which has a similar problem. I can work with WWW and POST. It is _not possible_ to use ROBOWEB. Entering GET.EXE, the machine is hanging like you wrote. I have no solution for the problem. On my other laptop all programs work fine. Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing power off & reboot to regain control). The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 =3D PORT 3?). First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need some very basic guidance or point in the direction to where it has already been spelt out before. Thanks in anticipation. Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:36:09 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Berrier Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Converting xls-files to pdb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallo, this subject may have beeb discussed, however I 'm posing the question. How to convert the xls dates (contacts) to a modified pdb database Anyone can help ? Thanks regards, Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:58:18 -0500 Reply-To: ronburnett@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Burnett Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99. Flyer = states that prices are good through 11/24/01. Ron --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Generic Supplement Co-op: http://www.1shoppingcart.com/app/aftrack.asp?afid=3D12491 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:12:01 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: CPack on Jornada 690 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > > After just a little work, I have been able to run the 100LX Connectivity Pack > on my Jornada 690 under XT-CE. I modified the standard app100.bat by REMing > out both references to cg.com /q. Confirm the same with a J720. I was able to launch CPACKin a B&W screen - speed is rather slow. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:54 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when > switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or > when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message). I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-( Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:55 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo wrote: > Oops, it does have it, but it looks like blown out cga. Do hplx = programs > take advantage of the added space? PE, HV and POST/LX use the 640x480 VGA screen. I added the 800x600 UGA mode to PALRUN, but cannot yet convince Andreas' programs to detect it ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:36:26 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can't understand why anyone would see this as the end. D&A has been releasing freeware for years. True you can't buy these machines new anymore but that is only because HP screwed up and discontinued the line. If HP would wake up and see what a good competitor they have, it would be pretty easy with present day technology and some of the old-fashioned HP innovation to release a x86 200LX with a much faster processor and color screen that could run anything and just take over the palmtop market. Its still the smallest notebook computer in the world. John -----------------reply seperator------------ I was going to simply ignore the beginining of Avi's reply, since I did not understand it, but since it appears John understood it, what was Avi refering to? I was not asking about speculation, but about the future of D&A and Andreas intentions, since it seems he won't be making much money for much longer. What with giving away everything and all . . . Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Musielewicz" > Hear, hear.... > > --------reply seperator--------- > > > Hi Domingo: I had another message with speculation. I think > it is useless to speculate - it is like talking about sex > ... > > As to what you wrote: The beginning of the end? NO!!! Does it > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 06:46:35 -0800 Reply-To: "Wayne E. Yang" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wayne E. Yang" Subject: Best Executive PDA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2071884718-1006181195=:93821" --0-2071884718-1006181195=:93821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Chris, I don't know that it sounds like he would use ...any... PDA, but I would avoid WinCE, which I find to be a complex OS, esp. for technophobes. The Palm is one of the easier PDAs to use, yet I just cannot see this guy using Graffiti. I echo the recommendation on the Blackberry. If you can use the selection wheel, you are good to go. Synchronization with Outlook is strong. There is a version that allows calendar changes made to Outlook or the device to be updated to the other via wireless. (Good for "secretary mode"). Keyboard is small, but functional and easier to learn than a funky new form of "handwriting" would be on a device like the Palm. I know a lot of people who are comfortable on a Blackberry that have never used any other PDA. - W I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE > machine. I > haven't been keeping up with these, however. Could any of > you who are > "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or > suggestions? Wayne E. Yang ============= wayne_yang@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. --0-2071884718-1006181195=:93821 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 Hi, Chris,

I don't know that it sounds like he would use ...any... PDA, but I would avoid WinCE, which I find to be a complex OS, esp. for technophobes. The Palm is one of the easier PDAs to use, yet I just cannot see this guy using Graffiti. I echo the recommendation on the Blackberry. If you can use the selection wheel, you are good to go. Synchronization with Outlook is strong. There is a version that allows calendar changes made to Outlook or the device to be updated to the other via wireless. (Good for "secretary mode"). Keyboard is small, but functional and easier to learn than a funky new form of "handwriting" would be on a device like the Palm. I know a lot of people who are comfortable on a Blackberry that have never used any other PDA.

- W

I would think the obvious choice would be a Palm or WinCE
> machine.  I
> haven't been keeping up with these, however.  Could any of
> you who are
> "up" on these units please drop me a note with any comments or
> suggestions?



Wayne E. Yang
=============
wayne_yang@yahoo.com


Do You Yahoo!?
Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. --0-2071884718-1006181195=:93821-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 07:39:28 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Connectivity Pack In-Reply-To: <20011119144635.94640.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does the connectivity pack "Synchronize" the desktop and palmtop NoteTaker, Phone, Appts Databases, etc? Does it do it well (or does it create lots of duplicates) ? Lastly, does it handle custom DB's and does it synchronized them as well? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 15:49:34 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > In Post/LX the screen mode seemed to switch to a kind of text mode when > > switching from one view to another (e.g. message list to folder list or > > when returning from PE to Post/LX after editing a message). > > I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to > DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA > text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change > the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from > the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you > have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-( Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www on the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size - sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW. And sometimes as Post goes online through www, the screen changes modes from graphic to text to graphic and the SCREEN MODE can wind up anywhere. Maybe this way it will stay WINDOWED??? I prefer windowed and not full screen. I will note that I have some control - If I'm running MS word 5.5 and have the cursor on that window while Post is calling www and then back into Post, POST will usually stay as a window and not pop back to full screen mode. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:04:30 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP Connectivity Pack Comments: To: James Grenert MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks J.P.! That worked and I can now ALT-TAB between the sessions. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Grenert" > :RUNCG > cg.com /Q <----- This line > launcher.com > cg.com /Q > un200.exe -c > > I removed the "/Q" part and it works fine now, including doing ALT-TAB back and > forth with Windows. I don't know what the /Q setting does, but it doesn't > cause a problem. > > Let me know if this works for you. > J. P. Grenert ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:41:21 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: HP Connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OOPS! I spoke too soon. It worked once, but not the second or subsequent time. I'm running Win2000 if that makes a difference. I got the message "C_pack - FROZEN". bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Penick > Thanks J.P.! > That worked and I can now ALT-TAB between the sessions. > bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:52:32 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: PAL library MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I attempted to obtain a copy of the PAL library from the S.U.P.E.R. site, but was unable to do so... got a <> message instead. If someone has a copy of this library that they can send to me off-list, I would much appreciate it. It's freeware of course... thanks! Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:28:01 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: eBay on the LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have started to become a little more interested in eBay. it there a > text gateway for viewing items?(I realize bidding has to be done thru > secure channels). > Hi, Al! Try this link to view eBay on the palmtop: http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com Digital Paths will interactively strip a Website down to text-only: http://www.digitalpaths.net/wince/pie10.htm If you're feeling adventurous, try IBM Research's "transcoding proxy" at: http://www.research.ibm.com/networked_data_systems/transcoding/Demos/demos.html Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:08:29 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: barry@FBTC.NET In-Reply-To: <005f01c16eac$afb835c0$bafe36d8@oemcomputer> from Barry at "Nov 16, 1 08:40:49 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: >> Ýmy bluner¨ > > Repeat this 3 times, slowly: "Command.com is not Dos". That > should help. :) done. (mor than 3 times. :) Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:09:54 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup Comments: To: novosad@SERVER030.FWB.SAIC.COM In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20011116081126.1b37b56e@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> from Steve at "Nov 16, 1 09:10:56 am" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: >> Ýmy AD for ic.com¨ > using CMDSPY and INTERSPY from "Undocumented MS-DOS" to I have CMDSPY and INTRSPY (the same?) on my palmtop as well as INTERCEP.EXE & INTERPRE.EXE. But, no. I'm never willing to re-invent the wheel. I think, the major reason why CMDSPY was separated from INTRSPY is that safely calling DOS service from a TSR is very difficult if possible. I've used once in a while INTERCEP.EXE that protocols all interrupts with detailed comments. But I'll have to reboot after I use it every time. Tasks which cannot be well achieved in such approaches are for example: 1. How does one know that the PC is "loosing its heart-beats" or "having irregular heart-beats"? (How do I call it in Latin?) Solution: ic 08 or ic 1c 2. How does one know, without searching through all documents of all utilities currently being used, that the INT 08H frequency has been modified and that the hardware heart-beat 08h and the software heart-beat are functioning well? Solution: ic 08 ic 1c /2 3. How does one disable the Ctrl-P (print screen), so that mistyping a Ctrl-P won't block the whole system. (I have to disable it on my Compaq LTE ELITE, otherwise I'll have to reboot.) Solution: ic 5 /t 4. How do I stop "BACKUP BATTERY LOW" on my 100/200LX? but still keep myself being informed about the event? Solution: ic 6 ah=7 /nf 5. How do I stop "CARD BATTERY LOW" on my 100/200LX cmpletely because I do not have a battery there? Solution: ic 6 ah=8 /ns 6. How do I stop beeping of the palmtop? Incomplete solution: (incomplete, because one never could do this without degrading the performance of a PC.) ic 10 ah=0e al=7 /t ic 29 al=7 /t /2 7. How do I verify the correctness of catching the event of pulling-out or plugging in the AC-adapter? Solution: ic 0a hornet=56,80 /f 8. How do I monitor, akustically and intuitively what's going on in IRQ2 on my 100/200LX palmtop? Solution: ic 0a 9. How do I identify and prevent the applications from .... my palmtop? Solution: ic.com And because IC.COM never does anything dangeous. It never crashes the system unter correct usage. Ýagain, *warning* these were AD's :)¨ Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:11:16 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: CF card startup. Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <164OZT-0UOjD6C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> from Stefan Peichl at "Nov 15, 1 04:36:37 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan wrote: > Nan-Shan Chen wrote: > > > Still, the only program I know which checks > > for free disk space before copying a file is: list.com > > It will refuse to copy. > > Now this is extremely bad news! LIST.COM is my one and only > Command Center. I use it xx times a day to do virtually > everything on the palmtop. This diminishes my interest in > this subject to 0.01% :-( I'm not ready to give up LIST! Well, ... :( In order to keep you there, I'll have to claim the following. 1. IRET'ing 36h means returning undefined, thus random, values in AX to DX. This is equivalent to reporting a false, but large enough value to LIST.COM, so that it won't abort the request. 2. We can assume (in fact, I've checked) that the author, Vernon D. Buerg will check returned code after a write operation. (Only very very very very lazy authors will not do this.) Furthermore, Once a decision is made to write to the disk, checking for free disk space is *redundant* for the write operation and thus does not affect a normal write operations. And this remain pratically true, so long no one could provide a counterexample. So, I've made the statement a little bit provocative. Let's let it be a challenge and see what happens. :) So, I was also claiming that the 36h is "informative" but cannot cause damages. If a wrong value could cause damages, which is equvalent to disabling the service or reporting a flase value, then ... (see the followiung from the page:) http://www.ise.ufl.edu/esi4161/files/DOSMAN/chap4.txt 36h Get Disk Free Space get information on specified drive (snip ...) note (snip ...) 3) Function 36h returns an incorrect value after an ASSIGN command. Prior to ASSIGN, the DX register contains 0943h on return, which is the free space in clusters on the HC diskette. After ASSIGN, even with no parameters, 0901h is returned in the DX register; this is an incorrect value. Similar results occur with DD diskettes on a PC-XT or a PC-AT. This occurs only when the disk is not the default drive. Results are as expected when the drive is the default drive. Therefore, the circumvention is to make the desired drive the default drive prior to issuing this function call. 4) Int 21h, function call 36h returns an incorrect value after an ASSIGN command. Prior to ASSIGN, the DX register contains 0943h on return, which is the free space in clusters on the HC diskette. After ASSIGN, even with no parameters, 0901h is returned in the DX register; this is an incorrect value. Similar results occur with DD diskettes on a PC-XT or a PC-AT. This occurs only when the disk is not the default drive. Results are as expected when the drive is the default drive. Therefore, the circumvention is to make the desired drive the default drive prior to issuing this function call. Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:23:02 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: alias MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Sorry, if this is already asked. I just got rejected by the list-server again. The reason was the mail was sent using the alias (upd.de) instead of (uni-paderborn.de) over which I do not have control. So, what I've just done is to subscribe once again using "upb.de". Am I doing it right? Is this again a blunder on my site. (I've been kicked off the list a couple of times.) Also, because I'm using "elm" on a UNIX-box, I have been using a "g" for "group-reply" to follow an article on the list. Am I doing this right? Is there a better option? I apologize for sending two copies to those people involved, especially when I got rejected (either too long or, this time, the domsin-alias was not accepted). I do not seem to be able to edit To: and Cc: fields under elm ... :( rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:43:08 +0100 Reply-To: Nan-Shan Chen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nan-Shan Chen Subject: Re: alias In-Reply-To: <200111191823.TAA13204@getultra51.upb.de> from Nan-Shan Chen at "Nov 19, 1 07:23:02 pm" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm following my own message. And, I get confused. I got 3 three rejections from the list-server telling me I'm not authorized to post. So, I subsribed once again and reposted ("group-reply) those three (see previous post). But I've just found in my folder 6 posts of mine to the list. Are you see the same? That is, those "rejected" posts appeared again? Rudi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 19:45:17 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wrote: > Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www = on > the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size - > sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW. I know this behavior of WinXX and finally found out how it works. A DOS window is always started in CGA text mode. You may switch to any other text mode without loosing the window. But the first switch to a graphics mode results in a full screen DOS box, from which you can Alt-Enter back to a DOS window. You may now switch to any other graphics mode in this window. And you may switch back to a text mode. OK, more analytic: text -> text within window text -> graphic always full screen graphic -> text within window graphic -> graphic within window Because PAL applications always use graphics mode, there will be at least one automatic switch to full screen, unless the window was already in a graphics mode. I tried to feed to the key buffer the Alt-Enter keycode, to switch automatically back to a window, but WinXX eats this keysequence only from the keyboard, not the buffer :-( Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 20:42:55 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Homepage updated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, a minor update on the mobile HPLX homepage: I added a "short phone overview" which describes the advantages and disadvantages of Nokia, Siemens and Ericsson phones shortly. This shall help to lead someone who considers buying a new phone into the right direction. http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 12:06:50 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Cheponis Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Cheponis Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD Comments: To: Ron Burnett In-Reply-To: <200111191158.GAA12010@siaar2aa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fry's is selling 128 MB CF for $39.95 -Mike On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Ron Burnett wrote: > From: Ron Burnett > Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD > > Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99. Flyer states > that prices are good through 11/24/01. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:48:09 -0500 Reply-To: Bing Xu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bing Xu Subject: Bluetooth on HP200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody know if there are any products of Bluetooth for HP200? Bing ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:49:09 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: 500 meg flash prices MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With all these post on low flash prices, I wonder whether anyone has seen low prices on a 500 meg CF or PCMCIA flash card. TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:18 -0500 Reply-To: stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I used to be a BIG fan of rechargeables until I got a new 200LX with double speed and the 32MB upgrade. Since then, the NiMH's just don't give me enough time between charges. So I wondered around aimlessly between different alkaline batteries. I would use whatever brand I could get my hands on at the time. The run hours of the different brand alkalines variaied greatly so I never knew what I was going to get. During this wandering period, I also used many sets of the Eveready Lithium batteries and always got excellent service from them. My run hours (according to Volt/LX) were usually in the 30+ hour range. But these batteries are much more expensive and much harder to find than regular alkalines. I still prefer the Lithium batteries and use them whenever I can. As for cost, I have seem the prices vary on the Eveready Lithium batteries quite a bit. Home Depot used to have a good price and Radio Shack was always way too expensive. I cheat now by getting my Lithium batteries from the supply closet at work. Since I am in charge of that closet, I just make sure there is always some in stock. ;-¨ BTW, The new packaging of the Eveready Lithium batteries is now Blue and Silver, they don't use the Red and Gold anymore. Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again. So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges. I always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares, though. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:06:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Ledford, Calvin" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: FS: 5MB 200lx with a lot of accessories... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I've got a HP200lx (was 1MB model) that has been upgraded to 5MB internal Storage for sale - it comes with the following accessories: original manual Black EB Case Connectivity Kit w/ cable, all adapters, disks, manual EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem with 2MB of Flash HP AC adapter 1 pair of fairly new NiCad batteries 1 pair of NiMH Batteries A copy of Software Carousel the 1996 and 97 Palmtop paper archives floppies I can send digital pictures to show all of the gear. I'd like to get $400 for everything - but am willing to be honest and say I'm not sure what it's all worth. Please feel free to make a reasonable offer. I can accept (and prefer) pay-pal; and can also ship COD. Please contact me at my personal mail address cledford@cw.net if interested. Thanks, -Calvin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:39:18 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Corrupt GDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My trusted friend locked up on me today while I had one of my most used databases open. It would not respond to CTL-ALT-DEL so I used the CTL-LSHIFT_ON and responded N. Well the database is hosed and when I tried to run Garlic on it Garlic basically said it wouldn't fix it. Could this be because I used a file password on my database? Luckily I've got a week old backup and it will only take a couple hours to get that back up to date. Any suggestions? bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:30:47 EST Reply-To: Joseph135759@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Gilbert Subject: Uses for dosline MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4a.1f6cc10.292af027_boundary" --part1_4a.1f6cc10.292af027_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I came across an interesting program on SUPER the other day. Its called Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone on the list used this program very much? --part1_4a.1f6cc10.292af027_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone,
    I came across an interesting program on SUPER the other day. Its called Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone on the list used this program very much? --part1_4a.1f6cc10.292af027_boundary-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:39:00 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@t-online.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry for repeating so much but I can't figure out where to cut and have it make sense! > > Actually, that sounds like it might be okay since when I use Post/www on > > the desktop, I can rarely get a consistent screen (window) size - > > sometimes it is full screen dos session and sometimes it is a WINDOW. > > I know this behavior of WinXX and finally found out how it > works. A DOS window is always started in CGA text mode. You may > switch to any other text mode without loosing the window. > > But the first switch to a graphics mode results in a full > screen DOS box, from which you can Alt-Enter back to a DOS > window. You may now switch to any other graphics mode in this > window. And you may switch back to a text mode. > > text -> text within window > text -> graphic always full screen > graphic -> text within window > graphic -> graphic within window > Because PAL applications always use graphics mode, there will > be at least one automatic switch to full screen, unless the > window was already in a graphics mode. Does this possibly mean that I if just opened a dos box and kept it open in GRAPIC mode (after the first switch) that I could run any PAL run application (such as post and www and back into post) that it would stay windowed? Exit back to a dos prompt and keep that window open but in the background and then ran post/www again later in that same box it would always be "within window?" I probably could do something like that. Rather I have a Post icon on the desktop, run it, use it and then close it entirely. Later I use the icon again? > I tried to feed to the key buffer the Alt-Enter keycode, to > switch automatically back to a window, but WinXX eats this > keysequence only from the keyboard, not the buffer :-( If you find a solution I really would appreciate it for Post/accis and other stuff. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 00:58:01 -0000 Reply-To: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Subject: Re: Uses for dosline In-Reply-To: <4a.1f6cc10.292af027@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use it a lot to fire DOS commands during macro executions. For example, to automatically switch to Software Carousel session 3, I use the macro sequence {cc:Mail}switchc 3{Enter} (I installed Dosline in Alt-123) -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Jim Gilbert Sent: Segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2001 23:31 Subject: Uses for dosline Ý...¨Dosline and it lets you write DOS commands from a prompt while still in Filer. Aside from the "attrib" command, which is not in filer, I can't think of any uses for this. Still, it seems like a fascinating concept. Has anyone on the list used this program very much? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:09:43 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wrote: > Does this possibly mean that I if just opened a dos box and kept it = open > in GRAPIC mode (after the first switch) that I could run any PAL run > application (such as post and www and back into post) that it would = stay > windowed? Exit back to a dos prompt and keep that window open but in > the background and then ran post/www again later in that same box it > would always be "within window?" Yes exactly. You open a DOS box, run a utility to switch to VGA graphics, Alt-Enter back to a DOS window, and now you may run any PAL application with the new PALRUN always within the window. I just tried it. You may also minimize the window to the taskbar and open it again later. But you may not close the window entirely. One drawback is, that the screen is no longer cleared when shelling to DOS. WWW/LX for example dials on top of the last POST screen. But this is only cosmetic. Don't know if I can fix it. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:22:04 -0800 Reply-To: patrick@west.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: FS: 5MB 200lx with a lot of accessories... Comments: To: cledford@cw.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:06:24 -0500, Ledford, Calvin wrote: >Hello, > >I've got a HP200lx (was 1MB model) that has been upgraded to= 5MB >internal Storage for sale - it comes with the following= accessories: >=A0original manual Black EB Case Connectivity Kit w/ cable, all >adapters, disks, manual EXP 14.4 Thinfax modem with 2MB of Flash= HP >AC adapter 1 pair of fairly new NiCad batteries 1 pair of NiMH >Batteries A copy of Software Carousel the 1996 and 97 Palmtop= paper >archives floppies > >I can send digital pictures to show all of the gear. > >I'd like to get $400 for everything - but am willing to be= honest >and say I'm not sure what it's all worth. =A0Please feel free to= make >a reasonable offer. for a price check look at <= http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D129449823= 3 > > >I can accept (and prefer) pay-pal; and can also ship COD. > >Please contact me at my personal mail address cledford@cw.net= if >interested. > >Thanks, > >-Calvin > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at= http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Patrick West, francis_patrick_west@yahoo.com on 11/19/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:38:16 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Corrupt GDB Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob Penick wrote: > Could this be > because I used a file password on my database? The built in pw protection is not considered very secure. I don't use it, I keep my sensitive data on a SECDEV encrypted logical drive. Much stronger encryption and no pw protected DBs to complicate recovery. SECDEV14.ZIP on SUPER. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:10:44 -0500 Reply-To: info@DASOFT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: info@DASOFT.COM Subject: Re: D&A Software Announces .... Comments: To: Steve Carder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve, Steve Carder wrote: > Gee, can I get my Quick/LX registration fee from 8 or so years ago = refunded? Just > kidding. You bought it from Shier Systems & Software then, you need to talk to them ... > > - Andreas just sent to me MindMap/LX 2.0 which has a few > > things added, and I will try to upload it this weekend. > > Who can ask for more then updates and improvements to freeware? = Thanks for > both of your hard work and support of my palmtop habit. You'll be surprised what people feel free tto ask for. It boggles the mind. I think most of the accolades and thanks should go to Andreas and the relentless, demanding and exquisite Beta Team! I contribute just a little bit. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:10:48 -0500 Reply-To: info@DASOFT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: info@DASOFT.COM Subject: Re: databases Comments: To: Tralornik MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: I use DBL.COM for this. The setup in the icon in appMgr looks like this: Name: databasex Path: a:\dbl.com a:\bases\avidb.gdb i also created a cute icon for the databases. I posted some time ago instructions on how to insert ANY icon located ANYWHERE on the palmtop to the entry in AppMgr. Let me know if you want it. Finally. here is a little known trick: If you you have a special icon for the database, move the icon into the same directory where the database is. If the database and icon have the same name (aside from the ?db and icn) then the icon will show up in the datacard when you open the database and display the databcard. I believe DBL is on SUPER. Hope this helps you a little. Avi M. Tralornik wrote: > Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the = database > ALWAYS to a certain database? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:36:51 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: databases Comments: To: info@DASOFT.COM In-Reply-To: <200111192210533.SM02216@dasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Avi How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised by SysMgr even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put the icon in the same directory? Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of info@DASOFT.COM Sent: Tuesday, 20 November 2001 4:11 p.m. To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: databases Hi: I use DBL.COM for this. The setup in the icon in appMgr looks like this: Name: databasex Path: a:\dbl.com a:\bases\avidb.gdb i also created a cute icon for the databases. I posted some time ago instructions on how to insert ANY icon located ANYWHERE on the palmtop to the entry in AppMgr. Let me know if you want it. Finally. here is a little known trick: If you you have a special icon for the database, move the icon into the same directory where the database is. If the database and icon have the same name (aside from the ?db and icn) then the icon will show up in the datacard when you open the database and display the databcard. I believe DBL is on SUPER. Hope this helps you a little. Avi M. Tralornik wrote: > Does anyone know how to create an Icon on Sys Mgr that opens the database > ALWAYS to a certain database? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:49:27 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Icons Ýwas: RE: databases¨ Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony, I don't support just any ol' palmtop stuff, but if you download a .ICN file - all of them 200 bytes long, then they should be icons for 200LX. > Avi > How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised= by > SysMgr What do you mean not recognizable by SysMgr? SysMgr has no use for icons, and does not deal with them. AppMger does in the menu of apps and icons. secondly, what do you mean does not recognize the icon? When? Where? Doing what? I just took an icon at random from my directory, copied and renamed it ffdb.icn and put it with ffdb.exe. Edit of the AppMgr entry for FFDB, tab to the icon window, and scroll it down, and there was the icon I picked. Works everytime. I have not seen it fail, unless the icon was defective, or not an icon in the Palmtop environment, etc. > even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put > the icon in the same directory? The name of the icon and the name of the program MUST BE 100% the same, except the extension. Could it be the names are not exactly the same? Is it an .ICO or .ICN file? Size? I also wrote about how to introduce an icon that has a TOTALLY different name and sits in a TOTALLY different directory into the entry of the AppMgr. You may want to go back a few days in the archives. The same technique lets you intriduce the icon even if it is the same name and in the same directory. If the file is 200 bytes, and named .ICN you may want to try opening it with ICN100LX which is tucked away in D:\BIN. You can copy it to the directory where the icon is and try it! If it does not open the icon is probably broken. Hope this helps. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:49:37 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: PALRUN & WWW/LX Comments: To: Alex Kamvissis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1368139618__" --__next_part__1368139618__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alex, First, the programs were written to run on the Palmtop. Desktop environments are so varied, and with so many variables, there is chance for us to really debug problems on these platforms. > Trying to use WWW on my laptop but computer is hanging(needing > power off & reboot to regain control). > > The trouble occurs when I attempt to go Online(F5). Not sure > if I have the correct Port for my internal modem?(assume COM 3 >=3D PORT 3?). You can find out by checking in the Control Panel under modem, assuming you use some Windows (non-Nt). If indeed it is COM3 then you have to manually edit WWW.CFG and change the Port=3D in the section which represents the ISP you are trying to connect with and add the 3, so it'll be Port=3D3 > First time user visa vi Laptop & Palmtop software so I need > some very basic guidance or point in the direction to where > it has already been spelt out before. I am not sure I know what the reference to visa is. The simple guidance: Believe it or not it runs nearly the same way, just faster. You need to run either Palrun, or CG.COM or PalmPC before you start WWW.EXE. The references to files and all that from the CFG files better be correct for the laptop. Post here what you find out and progress. Avi M. --__next_part__1368139618__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > > > > >
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First time user visa vi Laptop & = Palmtop > software so I need some very basic guidance or point in the direction = to where > it has already been spelt out before.
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Thanks in anticipation.
> --__next_part__1368139618__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Larry, Just got the batteries ordered a few days ago from ZBATTERY.COM (1800 624 8681, fax 1616 983 0029. I ordered 8 2-packs L91BP2 (stands for "blister pack 2). Each pack was $4.50 (there is another place selling them for $2.00 for each, vs. this place at $2.25. Total order $36.00 and UPS shiping $3.60. They word just fine. Expiration date 2009! No problems dealing with these folks. Some batteries measured at 1.67V Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > Bob > > > Office Depot here in Richmond, VA has a 4 pack for $8.99. |-) > > Thanks for the good info. I just checked at the Office Depot here in = Amarillo and got the same price! > > Larry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 03:49:43 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: Palrun Comments: To: Gottfried Burckhardt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Gottfried: Long time! Good to see your "face" here. I agree about the AlT-M issue. It may be hard to fix because desktop keyboards do not all scan the same way. Avi M. > Hi Stefan, > > >>Any more known bugs or suggestions I should look after?<< > > What about emulating the key with ? Not all programs > work with / to reach palmtop menus... That was implemented before, but > never worked stable, if I remember right. > > Anyway, I'm looking forward to Palrun 1.5 (if I count right ) > > Bye for now Gottfried > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:57:51 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Long Msg: Lithium Batteriy Review Comments: To: Avi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you wondering about the cost/benefit of using Lithium batteries in the LX, here is an excerpt from a recent test done by backpacker.com, see: http://www.backpacker.com/gear/article/0,1023,2645_P,00.html ***** From: BACKPACKER Rocky Mountain Editor, October 1, 2001 "I recently tested Energizer's upgraded E2 photo AAs. I ran four pairs through a variety of backcountry implements, testing their performance against standard alkaline batteries as well as older lithium cells." "During standardized flashlight burn-time tests (using a tungsten-filament Phillips KPR104 bulb rated at 2.2 volts, 0.47 amps), alkaline batteries ran for 4 hours, 10 minutes. Older Energizer lithiums ran for 5 hours, 30 minutes. The new E2 photo lithiums powered on for 7 hours, 25 minutes" "The same flashlight with the E2 photos burned brightly in subfreezing weather for just over 7 hours, but survived barely an hour with the alkaline competitors." ***** Cheapest Price: Energizer Lithium AA are available for $2 ea at http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm Even adding their $6 shipping you're at $38 for 16 batteries vs $39.60 for that same quantity at ZBattery.com (See Avi's post). I mention this because Zbattery is out of stock at the moment, so if you need them batterystation.com has them. BTW, I have no vested interest or experience with either of these merchants So, here's how the cost/benefit (run time) stacks up, using the flashlight run-times in the review and my own experience using the absolutely cheapest alkalines I've found, Wallgreens: AA Alkalines, Wallgreens* .18 150 minutes =3D 7 cents per hour AA Alkalines, cheap =09.24 250 minutes =3D 6 cents per hour AA Lithium (red/gold)=09=09 2.25 330 minutes =3D 41 cents per hour AA Lithium (E2)=09=09=09=09 2.25 430 minutes =3D 31 cents per hour * The cheapest AA's I've ever found were at Wallgreens, they occasionally have a hopper full of various blister-pack batteries for $1.99. These are usually within 6-12 months of the expiration date. The AA's come 12 for $1.99 plus tax, total $2.14 or $0.18 ea. They ran for about 2 1/2 hours in a Maglight flashlight, NOT the same flashlight as the reviewer's test subject flashlight, but maybe close enough for the purposes= of this comparison ;) FORGET THE FRIGGIN' FLASHLIGHT - WHAT ABOUT THE LX? I've been watching the posts re Lithium run-times in the LX which seem to garner between 35 hours and 58 hours. Say 46 hours average. Forgetting for a moment the above flashlight run-time comparison (thus avoiding the apples-to-oranges conflict), running the LX costs about 5 cents per hour using the "old" red/gold Energizer lithiums. IF the 30% increase in run-time between the "old" red/gold Lithiums and the "new" E2 blue/silver Lithiums holds true, that translates to a run-time cost of 3.5 cents per hour in the LX. Obviously, The extra cost of Lithiums over regular alkalines is the cost of convenience in not having to change the batteries out so often, not tossing so many batteries into the landfill and not encountering power drop-off problems inherent with alkalines. Since one of the major advantages to Lithiums is their ability to sustain output through their discharge life and not drop off like alkalines, could a "remaining battery life" utility be written that simply shows the hours of battery life remaining in= a pair of Lithiums in the LX? Might be handy. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100 Reply-To: Juan Belmonte Moreno Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Juan Belmonte Moreno Subject: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing from Win98SE itself) It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable it may be more difficult. I expect that this is you useful. Juan Belmonte > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Bergvill > To: > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 19:24:11 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > > > Hi Martin > > > > Hellu there.. > > > > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2001 12:45:04 -0500, Martin Bergvill > wrote: > > > > > > > I tried to set this up a long time ago, but could not do it. > > > > > > > > I run Win98SE on the laptop and the latest WWW/LX on the Hplx. > > > > > > > > Problem: How to get WWW/LX to use the Pcmcia networkcard which is in > > > > the other pcmcia slot on the laptop. > > > > > > What was the problem? > > > > Well first what I do now: > > > > Main desktop connected to internet and also connected to my home hub. > > > > Hplx connected to hub running WWW/LX. This is my batchfile: > > > > lxcic > > e: > > lxen2216 0x66 > > cd \ > > cd w > > Www.exe isp_ether > > > > I then can have the Hplx download mail/news while I surf the web on the > > desktop. > > > > What I want to do is to run WWW/LX on one of my machines that are > > connected to my hub. I want to run it on a faster machine than my Hplx. > > > > Either run it directly on the memorycard which I then insert in my > > Hplx. Or run WWW/LX on one of the machines and transfer the files after > > the online run to the card. > > > > That way I can surf on my main machine and still download mail and news > > with WWW/LX and much faster. > > > > I can run WWW/LX on my main desktop machine and have it dial in and > > connect, but then only WWW/LX "sees" the connection and I can not surf > > while it does this. > > > > How can I do what I want to do? Somebody mention a package which made > > it possible for WWW/LX to use the "normal" connection that I have. > > > > Please advice. I have the necessary hardware but need some software to > > make this happend. > > > > > Couldn't you access one of the cards anymore when you inserted the > > > second card? > > > > > > But could you access each card if the other card was NOT inserted? > > > > I think it will be to complicated to do it this way. I need a > > softwarepackage that runs on the laptop in Win 98 that lets WWW/LX on > > the inserted memorycard access the internet through the network. > > > > > Then you might have an interrupt problem. The PCMCIA controller uses > > > one interrupt line and every inserted card needs another. So with two > > > cards in the slots, you need 3 IRQs at once. Maybe this was the > > > problem? > > > > I do not think I can get it to work this way. I will try some more > > setting up WWW/LX on the laptop and then use Lxcic, Lxen2216 and > > dhcp.exe. > > > > But there must be some other clever way of doing this. All I want to do > > is to run WWW/LX on the connection that are already there through the > > network. > > > > Regards > > > > -- > > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 07:54:51 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Best Lithium Battery Prices Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just got a price quote on the red/gold Energizer Lithium batteries from wholesaleadvantage.com, a firm I've done a lot of= business with in the past and been very satisfied with. I had asked them to match or beat the $2 per battery price posted at http://www.batterystation.com/lithium.htm. Here is the reply: **** Hi Bob, For 16 L91BP2 batteries shipped in the continental USA we would charge $1.89/battery plus $5.50 shipping...Grand total $35.74...Please mention this special quote if ordering, otherwise you'll get charged the regular price.. These batteries are not the E2 package, they are the previous style package but are fresh dated 2009 and are "the exact same battery" as the E2... Regards, Allan Wholesale Advantage bette@wholesaleadvantage.com 20 Nov2001 **** I have no affiliation with any of these companies, just a satisfied customer of wholesaleadvantage.com. Again, be sure to mention this pricing per Allan when ordering. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:21:12 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: PIM/PE time stamp creation utility MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I have created a little utility which creates PIM/PE compatible time stamps. If someone wants to have a copy, please let me know. I use it for the report of my nightly backup: The backup creates output which I redirect into a PIM file and this utility creates the time stamp for each backup. It is simply called TIMESTMP and it creates e.g. +. 20-11-2001 or call it TIMESTMP /t and it creates a timestamp with time: +. 20-11-2001 11:53 It is made for German format of time and date. You can have the source code (C) and adjust it to your needs. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 10:49:13 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: Connectivity Pack In-Reply-To: <0GN3007IT1YXK1@smtp.fnal.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi James & Questor, I've been using the HP Connectivity pack to backup/synch my 200LX for years to my Win98 desktop. I do indeed reboot to DOS, and have a couple of simple BAT files there which start the llra code. That code maps the 200LX disks to desktop disks - so the HP's A: disk appears as the D: disk to the desktop for example. Then I do a bunch of copies in the BAT file. Only mildly tricky part is keeping a mirror of the 200's directory structure on the desktop. And one can copy back, of course; a sufficiently adept DOS person could probably develop a BAT file that will check dates and copy the latest version over the older version. Custom DB's, no problem, multiple duplicates, not. There are a couple of other features of the connectivity pack which I don't use, but I should mention that the emulator of the 200 code which runs on the desktop doesn't seem to include Lotus 1-2-3; I think it might not have Memo either. However, those files can be handled (more or less) with almost any office suite; if you have the Lotus SmartSuite you can run most any 1-2-3 macro that doesn't make a graph. Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:51:34 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Stephan. This is most likely impossible, I'll ask anyway: Any chance of supporting CPU's lower than 186? It would be really helpful, though I have an idea of the difficulties involved. TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:47:16 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: databases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > How come when I download icons from SUPER many of them aren't recognised by > SysMgr even though the path name to the program is correct and I have put > the icon in the same directory? > For a new icon to be recognized by the Applications Manager, you must: 1) place the icon in the same directory as the program you wish to associate it with 2) give the icon the same 8-character name (not 3-character extension) as the program you wish to associate it with (e.g. EXAMPLE.ICN to go with EXAMPLE.EXE) 3) in the Applications Manager, press ÝMENU¨ and choose Applications, Edit, Icon, then scroll up/down through the images to pick your new one 4) press ÝF10¨ for "Ok". If you have reason to doubt that it is a valid 44 x 32 x B&W .ICN, try opening it with the icon editor at D:\BIN\icn200lx.exe (or download icn100lx.exe from SUPER). Invalid icons just won't open. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:52:23 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Corrupt GDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > CTL-LSHIFT_ON and responded N. Well the database is hosed and when I tried > to run Garlic on it Garlic basically said it wouldn't fix it. Could this be > because I used a file password on my database? > Luckily I've got a week old backup and it will only take a couple hours to > get that back up to date. > Any suggestions? > Start the database app, create a new database (e.g. RESCUE.GDB), Merge the corrupt database into your new one, then save it. Then re-open RESCUE.GDB. If you are lucky, it contains your missing information, restored! If not, well, that's what back-ups are for... Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:10:05 -0500 Reply-To: nxw988e@TNINET.SE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: PDF files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Do anyone has the adress to where it was possible to convert pdf - files? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:19:14 -0600 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: PDF files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Lars Hedstroem wrote: > Do anyone has the adress to where it was possible to convert > pdf - files? Try this: pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:21:29 -0600 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Leo Bellantoni wrote: > ... I think it ÝCPACK¨ might not have Memo either. It does. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:29:14 +0100 Reply-To: Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: compressed transfile files MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi! My Hp200 crashed BIGtime lastnight and I lost a lot of stuff. Unfortunately I haven't made a backup for a few months, because the serial connection failed to work for some strange reason. This is very frustrating...:)( I have got a few backups in transfile compressed format. I want to use a few old files on the pc running connectivity software. Any chance I can decompress the transfile files without having to use the 200LX? Thanks very much! Jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay In-Reply-To: <003d01c170c3$d790a8c0$f8129718@nm03c3.cpe.charterne.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed. I ran chkdsk and that defrag util that comes with SC with no hiccups. now I can fill it with a lot more crap I never use. Anybody want to buy a slightly used 150MB type-2 sandisk card really cheeeep? ;¬> -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Tralornik Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:32 AM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Is there a limit on the size of cards supported by a 100LX ? Also would the card described below require a driver? ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hansen To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500". I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938 Ken ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:07:18 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD Comments: To: Mike Cheponis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit These cost $165 (#145 Irish) here in Ireland, and the cheapest I've seen in the UK adverts is #120 sterling - roughly the same. When I read this correspondence, I tried Costco. They took all details an then said they could not ship to this region. I then tried Amazon.com who had it for $69.99. They made a distinction between billing area and shipping area, so I bought and had it shipped to my cousin in NY state. He forwarded it to me. It worked out at #66 Irish. Richard. Mike Cheponis wrote: > Fry's is selling 128 MB CF for $39.95 > > -Mike > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Ron Burnett wrote: > > > From: Ron Burnett > > Subject: Re: SanDisk 128M CF at Costco for $60USD > > > > Office Depot has a special on the SanDisk 128MB CF for $84.99. Flyer states > > that prices are good through 11/24/01. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:30:56 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: compressed transfile files Comments: To: Jasper de Jong In-Reply-To: <3BFAAF0A.3013D8FC@wxs.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This might be a workaround for you because your serial connection isn't working: Over the last few months I have been backing up via my compact flash card and just using it like a floppy. My laptop has a pc card slot and Win2k seems to recognise the sandisk card without having to install drivers. Then I just copy the files into a backup directory. HTH Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Jasper de Jong Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2001 8:29 a.m. To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: compressed transfile files Hi! My Hp200 crashed BIGtime lastnight and I lost a lot of stuff. Unfortunately I haven't made a backup for a few months, because the serial connection failed to work for some strange reason. This is very frustrating...:)( I have got a few backups in transfile compressed format. I want to use a few old files on the pc running connectivity software. Any chance I can decompress the transfile files without having to use the 200LX? Thanks very much! Jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:53:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: LXREF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Where can I download a copy of LXREF? The link in the faq and in a post from a year ago (http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/files.html) is no longer valid. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 16:52:44 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:18 -0500, Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again. > So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges. I > always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares, > though. What exactly is "lousy"? I have a 8mb DS machine now, but will get a 32mb DS machine in january. I use NIMH now, and I get about 8 hours max with mine. This is lousy, but if you get even worse I need to consider to go alkalaine too when I get my 32mb DS machine. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:28:35 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Repost: Icons Installation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I posted this originally October 9, 2001. This is based on an old message and library item in Compuserve which I believe I posted in HPHAND in 1995 or 1996? This deals with installing icons in AppMgr. The myth is they must be named the same as the application and be in the same directory. Not exactly. Read below. (However, to display the icon in the datacard of a database, it MUST be in the same directory and have the same name. I have not found, nor looked for a way around this.) Hope this is useful for someone. Avi M. ---------- Here is the secret: When you install the icon, its image is placed in APPMGR.DAT (see c:\_dat) so you can take the icon - usually said to have to be in the same directory as the app - an move it somewhere else, or even delete it. Having said that, I published many years ago the following procedure, which let's you install an icon, no matter where it is located: 1. Press the blue &... - that puts you in the applications manager program. 2. Highlight the program you want to give an icon or change its icon. If you are entering the program for the first time, see below... 3. press Edit F3 4. Tab to Path field, where there is info on the program that is activated by this icon. 5. Press Fn =3D (Copy) the info. 6. Type on top of the program info the icon location: A:\misc\info\iconlist\icon1.icn or whatever the FULL PATH name is. Don't worry that this destroys the program information, because in step5 you copied that information to the SysMgr clipboard! 7. Tab to the icon area and scroll (up / down arrows) until you see your selected icon. If you do not see it, then you did not type the full path name of the icon correctly, or the icon is invalid. If invalid path, tab to PATH field and retpe the proper path name. If invalid icon, tab to PATH, press PAST (Fn .) and go find a valid icon. You are finished for now. 8. If you see the icon, it means that it is now included inside the APPMGR.DAT file! 9. Tab to the PATH field (which still has the icon path name) 10. Press PASTE (Fn .) to paste back in the program information. 11. Press OK, F10. 12. The end. Now you have an icon you like, which was not only in the same directory as the icon, but did not even have to have the same name as the application. Try it! This has worked for many years on my 100LXs, 200LXs and even I am told on OmniGo 700LX. Hope this helps. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:23 -0800 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.95830360010" --IMA.Boundary.95830360010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:01:18 -0500, Stanley Dobrowski wrote: >> Right now, I am back to experimenting with rechargeables again. >> So far, I am still getting lousy run times between charges. I >> always keep a pair of the Lithium batteries handy as spares, >> though. > What exactly is "lousy"? I have a 8mb DS machine now, but will get a 32mb > DS machine in january. I use NIMH now, and I get about 8 hours max with > mine. Just out of curousity, what brand, how old and how are you charging your batteries? I get a good 16 to 18 hours, with plenty of juice left, out of my DS 32 Mb with 1600 mAh Sanyo NiMH that are about a year- year and a half old, charge them in the LX once a week and they are good to go for another week. 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I could not get the Jornada's IR port associated with an XT-CE DOS Com = port. I will try some more work later. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800 Reply-To: info@DASOFT.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: info@DASOFT.COM Subject: MM/LX Version 2.0 is available. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. When you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0. This version has no Registration requirements. That code was removed. Enjoy. Avi Meshar D&A Software ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:54:25 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LXREF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Robert, On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:53:05 -0700, "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > Where can I download a copy of LXREF? The link in the faq and in a post from What is LXREF? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 04:03:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: MM/LX Version 2.0 is available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800, info@DASOFT.COM wrote: > FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. When > you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0. Fine. I just downloaded the new version. But so far, I could not find any improvement, which you spoke about recently. Is somewhere a "what's new" collection? I would be interested mainly in which bugs are fixed. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:59:55 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack issues and thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > > > could you transfer files ? > > I could not get the Jornada's IR port associated with an XT-CE DOS Com port. I > will try some more work later. I have tried with the USB serial cable which came with the J720 but forgott that I don't have CPACK running in the WinNT DOS window. Ired does not work on the WinNT either. Swapping PCMCIA cards is much more obvious anyway. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 03:09:07 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack Comments: To: Leo Bellantoni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Leo, > I've been using the HP Connectivity pack to backup/synch my > 200LX for years to my Win98 desktop. I do indeed reboot to DOS, and you mean you shut down Win98 and restart it in MSDOS mode, or really boot say DOS from a diskette? The first case still has Win98 under the covers, and I wonder how you set up things to let it run LLRA. I did not think this worked, with Win choking on LLRA code. But I never tried running it like that, so maybe this is the trick! Worth trying. And the other question: When we talked on the phone, I believe I understood your AUTOEXEC.BAT has the LLRA code REMmed out. Is it not required to "talk" with the desktop complement of these programs? I suppose it is possible to run that on the Palmtop in a batch file right before the connection is made, though. > the desktop doesn't seem to include Lotus 1-2-3; I think it might not > have Memo either. However, those files can be handled (more or less) Has Memo but not 123. I bet the Lotus crew who developed the System Manager applications for the 200LX expected that naturally everyone will have Lotus 12-3 on their desktops ... > with almost any office suite; if you have the Lotus SmartSuite you can > run most any 1-2-3 macro that doesn't make a graph. That is correct. We exchanged our experiences and indeed WK1 sheets are very compatible with Lotus 97, except all the graphics stuff. I aso move worksheets between the two platforms with almost no troubles. The main source of occasional problems is that the Palmtop is limited in memory and cannot take huge sheets. > > Leo > ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 > Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like = pencils." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:17:19 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo wrote: > Hello Stephan. This is most likely impossible, I'll ask anyway: Any > chance of supporting CPU's lower than 186? It would be really helpful, > though I have an idea of the difficulties involved. You took the question out of my mouth (german proverb). I just wanted to ask, if anybody is using Palrun on a 8086, because I intend to compile it for 80186 opcodes. This is a speed relevant decision, because I can use PUSHA and POPA opcodes, saving 10 instructions for *EVERY* pixel written to the screen. If most PAL applications use 80186 opcodes, Palrun would be silly to not use them too. But if your question was, if Palrun could let a 80186 PAL application run on a 8086, then the answer is: Impossible Palrun does not emulate a processor, it only emulates the built in graphics functions of the palmtop. So the main question remains: Does anybody want to use Palrun on a 8086 processor? If only very few have this requirement, I'd rather like to do custom compilation for them instead of letting the rest not take benefit from the speed improvement. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:11:18 +0100 Reply-To: Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: serial problem MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi! As I've told you yesterday, my hp200 crashed bigtime. Before that happened, I couldn't connect my pc and hp200 anymore. I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my 200. Is there a way to test the latter? Thanks! Jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:28:05 +0100 Reply-To: Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: me again MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ... I'm sorry about my posts, but I'm seeing a lot of work getting more and more lost. I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by password or anything. Does anyone have a solution? If you want you can try it yourself: http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural/track.gdb Thanks very much! Jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:21:21 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: SanDisk Product Change MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI: SanDisk ATA PC Cards Type II ---------------------------- end of life: 8-48-96-440-660-880-1000 MB new product: 16-32-64-128-192-256-348-512-640-896-1024-1536-2048 MB SanDisk ATA CF Cards Type I --------------------------- end of life: 8-48-96-160 MB new product: 16-32-64-128-192-256-348-512 MB SanDisk MultiMedia Cards ------------------------ new product: 8-16-32-64 MB SanDisk SD Cards ------------------------ new product: 8-16-32-64 MB ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:09:04 -0600 Reply-To: Leo Bellantoni Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Leo Bellantoni Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack Comments: To: Avi In-Reply-To: <200111210309726.SM03432@dasoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Avi, Good to hear from you! > you mean you shut down Win98 and restart it in MSDOS mode, or > really boot say DOS from a diskette? No diskettes; I do the shut down proceedure with the "Re-start as MS-DOS" option. The connectivity pack asserts that this is required in its documentation. Being the finger poker that most of us on this list seem to be, I tried it from the MS-DOS window opened directly from Win98 a few times. Itsa no good. The only real trick was that I had to realize that my desktop has its modem in COM1, and the serial port on the back is COM2. I don't have a copy of my BAT files on hand, but I can post them (after Thanksgiving probably) if people want... I think the relevant statements are something along the lines of "llra /2" and then "llra /off" &/or "llra /u" at the end of the exercise. "llra /?" I think is useful. > And the other question: When we talked on the phone, I believe > I understood your AUTOEXEC.BAT has the LLRA code REMmed out. > Is it not required to "talk" with the desktop complement of > these programs? I suppose it is possible to run that on the > Palmtop in a batch file right before the connection is made, > though. Ah, yes. Rather, I start the LapLink code from the system manager when I connect up the ports; this is prior to the start of llra from the desktop. So the palmtop is slave, the desktop is master. cheers Leo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Bellantoni MS 231, FermiLab Batavia, IL 60510 Pager:(630)266-3803 "The more I use computers, the more I like pencils." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 07:09:23 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed, I agree. So far I have bought 2 from Silicon Salvage. Been very pleased. Theyb are on my way home from work so I do a buy it now and stop by to pick it up (and test it) a couple of hours later. I dont know what they charge for shipping, but I just sent one out to a friend for $3.90 Priority mail. If anyone is interested, contact me off line. So far they have only charged me $50 ea, No tax and No Shipping (i Pick up). Joe Prev MSG ---------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:45:29 -0500 From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed. I ran chkdsk and that defrag util that comes with SC with no hiccups. now I can fill it with a lot more crap I never use. Anybody want to buy a slightly used 150MB type-2 sandisk card really cheeeep? ;¬> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hansen To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Silicon Surplus (no relation, just a customer) is selling new San Disk 220 Flash Disk cards for $50/ea - they have several with buy-it-now prices at $50. Do a search on the seller - "ssinc1500". I bought several items from them, and have always been happy... Here is a link to the one I bought, click on "View other auctions for this seller" to see others... http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1294724938 Ken ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:18:16 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi, >>I agree about the AlT-M issue. It may be hard to fix because desktop keyboards do not all scan the same way.<< AFAIK the scan code of the key is absolutely unique to the HP palmtops. No other keyboard can generate that code. Having said that the only possible solution would be to develop a "table translator routine" which grabs the scan code of the keys and stuffs the scan code instead into the palmtop program running on a "big" computer. Well, I never was a programmer in practice and I'll never be.... Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:35:33 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: CF card startup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I have found a few things out about the pause that occurs when first accessing drive A: upon powering on. A couple of people mentioned this was an annoyance, and Rudi went so far as to disable the recalculation of the free space by DOS that seems to cause this. Dredging up some old DOS memories, I thought that this should be easy to solve. The Drive Parameter Block (DPB) holds the media changed and free space available information. Write a TSR to save this information on power down, and restore it on power on. That didn't work as the media changed information is not now held in the DPB. The Developer's Guide says that "CardDRV" is what does the media changed update when the system wakes up. The DPB has an address of the driver for drive A: so that gives an approximate starting point to look for things. It is apparently not in a register or "special" memory location. The diskette I got with the Developer's Guide has a program called FIXEDA.COM. This fixes the problem that someone brought up a while back of not writing data to drive a: when powering off. It patches CardDRV to make DOS a little happier and allow writes to occur on power on, rather than reporting media changed and invalidating the file pointers. It does not affect the pause and the documentation says there are three values for media changed; yes, no, and maybe. FIXEDA changes media changed from yes to maybe. I've looked at FIXEDA.COM in DEBUG and ran it through a disasembler. That (as usual) does not tell me too much about what's going on. Are there any "old hands" here that might have access to the source code of FIXEDA.COM or CardDRV? The Developer's Guide also says that if the power off was caused by the main batteries being too low, the media changed status is left alone to allow writes to A: to recover from inadvertent power offs caused by the large current requirements of a flash card. Implies that there will be no annoying pauses if you turn your machine off by removing the batteries. I don't think I'll test that one, but someone might know if the power off interrupt could be faked to change a normal power off to a main battery failure. And if there are caveats to this. By the by, there is a DPB for drive B:. The Developer's Guide says this is for a second partition on a flash card. It then says it might have been used for a second slot if such had ever been incorporated in a 200LX. It looks like the address of the driver for B: is different for B: than A: in the DPB. Anyone have a flash card with more than one partition? You could change the address of the B: driver to that of the A: driver and see if anything happens. Any other ideas on tracking down a specific status byte in memory? Happy Thanksgiving Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:08:37 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Connectivity Pack Comments: To: Leo Bellantoni MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My .02$.... There were 2 instances were I could not connect to my palmtop: 1)Win 95, after I installed a wireless mouse 2)after installing Win 98 The followiong tips from the list solved the problem: 1)To force Windows to release it's serial ports we include the following additional lines under the heading "Ý386Enh¨" in the system.ini file in the windows directory: ComBoostTime=5 Com1AutoAssign=2 Com2AutoAssign=2 Com3AutoAssign=2 Com4AutoAssign=2 Com1FIFO=1 Com2FIFO=1 Com3FIFO=1 Com4FIFO=1 This stops windows from mothering you with concern over having two programs attempting to access the same port at the same time. 2) Remote Settings and simply OK the settings that I see (making no changes) then connect, the connection is successful. It stays happy until I quit CPACK200. -I run CPACK200 under Win98. I have found that I get much more reliable connections if I have it run in MS-DOS mode. To do this, right-click on the CPACK icon and select Properties. The select Program and Advanced and check the box for MSDOS mode. Now click OK and try it out. At least, it worked for me.. Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 09:18:44 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Fat 16 in MP3 player MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a Sandisk 160Mb CF Type II card that works fine in ALL my 200lx's. It was formatted using the DOS 5.0 in the 200lx as Format A: /u when I first got it (after I picked up a CF Type II adaptor to PCMCIA Type II)(BTW- Thanks Avi, I found one at Bel Air Camera). It was checked with Norton and appears to be fine. The problem is that my NEX II MP3 player does not see it!? I also have a Simpletech 48Mb CF Type I and a Sandisk 160Mb CF Type 1 that both work fine! An Email response from Frontier Labs (maker of the NEX II) asks "Do you have a CF card reader which you can use to format the CF card to FAT 16 on your PC?"! I thought that DOS 5.0 formatted in FAT 16. Am I wrong? How can I tell what FAT is used, 12, 16 or 32(32, fat chance)? Thanks Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:28:16 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Highscreen Organizer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo all, is it possible to use POST/LX and similar programs on a different handheld like Highscreen/Peacock Organizers? Win 3.0 works on it, but I don't know, what processors works inside. Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 19:59:30 +0200 Reply-To: Mikko Kangas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mikko Kangas Subject: hp700lx battery problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have HP Omnigo 700/LX (almost identical with 200lx) in constant use, = but now some strange problem is being occur. When I start the machine, it works fine about 15 seconds and then = says that bckup battery and main battery are very low and then shuts off. When I try to = restart the machine again, is just beeps, screen flicks and then it shuts down = again. It does this with brand new alkaline batteries and with loaded nimh too. = With AC-adaptor it gives same warnings but does'nt shut off. The setup says that main = batteries and backup battery are low. I monitored the voltage with ABC/LX and it jumped constantly to 2,58 = volts and then down to 0-1 volts and again to over 2 volts. All wires and connectors inside the machine seem connected and clean to = me, so can the problem be that the circuit what measures battery power is broken, and gives false information about batteries causing system to soft off? Is there any way to override this circuit?=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:32:41 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" > If most PAL applications use 80186 opcodes, Palrun would be > silly to not use them too. Perhaps it would be better to ask if ANY Pal application doesn't use 80186 opcodes. If not, then that would settle the issue. > So the main question remains: > Does anybody want to use Palrun on a 8086 processor? > If only very few have this requirement, I'd rather like to do > custom compilation for them instead of letting the rest not > take benefit from the speed improvement. If the issue is not moot as above, may I suggest two compilations on the distribution? It should add only a few kbytes to the zip file. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:12:34 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo wrote: > Perhaps it would be better to ask if ANY Pal application doesn't use = 80186 > opcodes. If not, then that would settle the issue. I think its more important to know the target machine for Palrun, because a 80186 compiled Palrun will execute 8086 and 80186 PAL applications. There is no need of an extra 8086 compiled Palrun to execute 8086 PAL applications. > If the issue is not moot as above, may I suggest two compilations on = the > distribution? It should add only a few kbytes to the zip file. But besides Palrun there will be a new MINIPAL only using 3KB of memory at the cost of the custom fonts (MINIPAL only uses the 8x8 BIOS font). Distributing 4 versions are likely to confuse the user and will rise questions to be answered by Avi, because the zip file will indeed go to the D&A page ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:32:03 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" > I think its more important to know the target machine for > Palrun, because a 80186 compiled Palrun will execute 8086 and > 80186 PAL applications. There is no need of an extra 8086 > compiled Palrun to execute 8086 PAL applications. Perhaps I missunderstood you. I thought you were considering NOT supporting 8086 code for speed purposes. > But besides Palrun there will be a new MINIPAL only using 3KB > of memory at the cost of the custom fonts (MINIPAL only uses > the 8x8 BIOS font). Distributing 4 versions are likely to > confuse the user and will rise questions to be answered by Avi, > because the zip file will indeed go to the D&A page ;-) If MINIPAL will be able to trick programs into running on a true XT at the cost of some of the appearance, that would be a reasonable compromise. As far as D&A, I thought they didn't support freeware (or at least did not feel obligated to). I understood one reason they are releasing some programs as freeware was to cut down on support costs. Either way, I recently heard from Avi privately, so I think I know what you mean. :-p Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Missing lines on the display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines. It was _not_ (as I always thought) a loose contact between the display electronics board and the screen glass (there is a conducting rubber band between them, rather don't take it apart, I have done so several times and once it was a real mess to reassemble it!). But it was a bunch of bad soldering points at one IC on the electronics board. This is a failure which no one can see, you can only 'see' it indirectly by connecting the screen to a HPLX mainboard and try to press gently on each IC on the back uf the screen. Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair , sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact between electronics and glass. But you also mechanically work (only a little bit, but it may be enough) the board itself and thus you may establish missing contacts between any IC and the circuit board. So please, don't throw awy any screen which only misses some lines. It can probably be fixed! My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen. If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right pixel columns. Is this correct? Please, if you also have a screen with missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be very interesting. Unfortunately, I will NOT repair your screens. I cannot do so, because I don't have the tools for SMD soldering. For the one reair I did today I had the opportunity to use the SMD tools in a laboratory in my university. But this was an exception. You need a soldering iron which blows hot air onto the contacts of the ICs. Please note: There are two kinds of screens: The one kind has ICs which are really soldered onto the board, with accessable contacts. The other kind has ICs of which the contacts are NOT accessable. These cannot be repaired that way. But I doubt that these screens will be affected by the bending anyway. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:16 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Post/LX under Palrun under DOSEMU under Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, by chance anyone who does something like that? Everytime I try to edit a message in Post/LX or everytime I leave PE when PE is the only app. running, DOSEMU crashes with a segmentation fault. :-( Maybe the new Palrun will avoid that? With PalmPC the error occurs, too. Does anyone know if modem access or even networking is possible under DOSEMU? And: Mindmap looks fairly nicely under palrun under DOSEMU under Linux. ;-) But Everything which doesn't fit on the right side anymore continues on the left side of the screen, this is annoying! Has anyone a solution for that? (looks like the following: The item "Thisistoolong" is too long. olong Thisisto . / . / . Main item . \ . \ . Thisfits You know what I mean? Everything else seems to work. Except of course editor access again. Pressing F3 to edit a note with PE results again in the segmentation fault of DOSEMU. I'm running version 1.0.1.0 of DOSEMU (xdos) under SuSE Linux 7.2 on an HP Omnibook 800CT. Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:10:46 +0100 Reply-To: Harry Wellner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Wellner Subject: Wanted to buy: M35 Siemens phone <-> HPLX data cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hallo list, Daniel Hertrich is out of stock. Anyone not in use anymore of a HPLX data cable for a Siemens M35 ? Please contact me directly mailto:hwellner@planet.nl Harry WELLNER - The Netherlands ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:14:03 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: me again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jasper de Jong wrote: > I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the > connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by > password or anything. I'm really sorry to read about your troubles, unfortunately I have no recovery suggestions. However this can serve as a good example to everyone else... Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! Do frequent BACKUPS !! ...And make sure they can be read Ok in case you need them. (My father was good about backing up his pc. Unfortunately they were unusable when it came time to need them. :-( ) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 22:14:07 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: serial problem Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jasper de Jong wrote: > I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be > either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my > 200. > Is there a way to test the latter? Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial port? If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:27 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Errors in APPT.ADB and DBCHECK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After my crash this week, I've been double-checking everything to make sure that I have found and fixed all the gotcha's. I've run Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK against all my ?db's and it reports that my appt.adb had errors. APPT.ADB: File type: Appointment ................. Error - data record 503 not found in recurring list ..... 1 db header, 0 card def 0 categories, 27 fields defined 0 view point defs, 1 view point tables 2 smart clips, 1 lookup tables 641 data records, 48 with notes Found records: 725 Garbage records: 0 Expected records: 724 Deleted records: 0 Error: links in record(s) point to other non-existent records. Error: Data record 0 was linked incorrectly. APPT.ADB had errors. I've tried extracting records earlier and later than various dates and I still get the same error. I've even tried creating a new adb and then merging older subsets in. When I do this it hangs c_pack at 85% and I have to force the session closed. The strange thing is that (I don't think) the appointment program seems to run OK. So, how do I delete record 503 or otherwise clean up my APPT.ADB and hang on to most of my history? Thanks friends, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:03:36 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: serial problem Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel, I think you remember the old PC Tools. I have a set that came when I bought the "deluxe" upgrade. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russel Brooks" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: Re: serial problem > Jasper de Jong wrote: > > I tested it on 2 pc's with no luck. It has worked... I guess it can be > > either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my > > 200. > > Is there a way to test the latter? > > Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial > port? If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them. > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:15:59 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, > > Just got the batteries ordered a few days ago from > ZBATTERY.COM (1800 624 8681, fax 1616 983 0029. > > I ordered 8 2-packs L91BP2 (stands for "blister pack 2). Each > pack was $4.50 (there is another place selling them for $2.00 > for each, vs. this place at $2.25. Total order $36.00 and UPS > shiping $3.60. They word just fine. Expiration date 2009! > Pretty good deal! A lot better than what I WAS paying - I won't do that = again soon. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:06:55 -0500 Reply-To: stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: CF card startup. (1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Ah, darn, what's that secret area in the HP called? Supposedly holds > whatever data unless all power is lost - retains it even during hard > resets? It is called the XBRAM. It is a small section of write protected memory. It cannot hold up through a power failure that erases all RAM, but it is not cleared by a Initialize RAM boot function. There is a specific protocol required to allocate space in the XBRAM and to read and write it. It is all documented in the HP Developers Docs, but it is not very well done. And there is a bug in the ROM routines around this. But I don't think the XBRAM is needed for the stuff be are talking about here. The TSR can store the free-space value in it's own variable space. There is no need for this free space value to hold up through a reboot or a RAM initialization. And it is not a hardship for there to be a delay the first time the card is referenced after a reboot as long as the TSR returns the value instantly all times thereafter. BTW, I just ordered a 128MB Sandisk CF card. I is time for more storage space. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:03:05 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Errors in APPT.ADB and DBCHECK Bob Penick writes: > After my crash this week, I've been double-checking everything to make sure > that I have found and fixed all the gotcha's. > I've run Curtis Cameron's DBCHECK against all my ?db's and it reports that > my appt.adb had errors. > > APPT.ADB: > File type: Appointment > .................. > Error - data record 503 not found in recurring list Run dbcheck with the /d switch, and direct the output to a file: dbcheck /d c:\_dat\appt.adb > c:\test-out.txt Then search the file for the string "mber: 503" This should identify which record is the culprit. Deleting it may clear up the problem. Hope this helps. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:15:09 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Steve" Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:05 PM > A: in the DPB. Anyone have a flash card with more > than one partition? THIS is interesting .. as i understand, the entire pcmcia card, normal or compact, is looked upon as one drive .. is it possible to use fdisk to partition the pcmcia card .. that would be very useful to me for reasons of my own .. (loooong reasons, and i HAVE been pointed out, politely, by good people here of my 'long' posts to be kept short) :-)) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:49:05 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Post/LX under Palrun under DOSEMU under Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Daniel Hertrich" >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 8:57 PM > Re : Post/LX under Palrun under DOSEMU under Linux Wow ! an app under another ap under an OS under another OS ! Amazing things still do happen ! :-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:14:21 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Steve" >Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:05 PM > looked at FIXEDA.COM in DEBUG and ran it through a > disasembler. That (as usual) does not tell me too > much about what's going on. i need a disassembler for finding out how the small program abcd.com works .. it was made by a friend who has since left for USA .. he is now too busy .. this program changes the layout from qwerty to alphabetic .. a is on top left key .. b is on the 2nd top left key .. z is on the bottom right key .. very very useful for all my staff who refused to work on the 'difficult' qwerty keyboard .. i need to do some changes to make the keyboard into fitaly kind of keyboard .. can you help please ? its a 2k program ! ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 06:34:04 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Backing up - new thread MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From: "Russel Brooks" >Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:44 AM > Do frequent BACKUPS !! > Do frequent BACKUPS !! > Do frequent BACKUPS !! a point which cannot be emphasized enough ! i always felt like that when i faced an unreadable backup media .. when i needed it most ! and frequently the large number of floppies created by MSBackup program .. ugh ! .. a break in the link (one unreadable floppy of the many) and the rest goes into never never land ! > ...And make sure they can be read Ok in case you need them. > (My father was good about backing up his pc. Unfortunately they > were unusable when it came time to need them. :-( ) once upon a time .. long long ago .. i was asked to write an article in my computer club mag on backups .. what i felt then .. i feel even now .. backups are not available when you need them most ! the various media .. tapes .. 3.5" floppies .. CDs .. develop strange securities and funguswalls .. even the backupper doesn't get the goods back .. my solution then .. and now too .. is use a similar medium .. hdd to be backed up to another hdd .. flashcard to another flashcard .. much much more reliable .. and almost 100 % certain .. i do another thing tho' .. i swap the hdd or flash card .. keeps me informed that is works .. 3.5" floppies are awful .. 1.2MB floppies are better (strange .. old tech better than new ! ) CDs are always a problem .. shouldn't be .. but are .. ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:38:35 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Missing lines on the display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, Hello there. > finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines. That sounds good. I have a backup 1mb machine that has some missing lines. Good to know that it can be fixed. > It was _not_ (as I always thought) a loose contact between the display > electronics board and the screen glass (there is a conducting rubber > band between them, rather don't take it apart, I have done so several > times and once it was a real mess to reassemble it!). I will not take it apart, because I know I will have problems with getting it back together again. > But it was a bunch of bad soldering points at one IC on the > electronics board. Is this on the back on the screen or on the motherboard? > This is a failure which no one can see, you can only > 'see' it indirectly by connecting the screen to a HPLX mainboard and > try to press gently on each IC on the back uf the screen. Okey on the back of the screen then.. So this is nothing I can do myself (or get my father to fix). You need to dissamble the whole Hplx? > Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair , > sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and > thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact > between electronics and glass. My main machine has a problem where the screen goes black and pressing on the left corner fixes it. But the backup Hplx I can press right of the vertical lines and the lines dissapear. > But you also mechanically work (only a little bit, but it > may be enough) the board itself and thus you may establish missing > contacts between any IC and the circuit board. > > So please, don't throw awy any screen which only misses some lines. It > can probably be fixed! Probably.. > My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because > it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen. > If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in > the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right > pixel columns. Is this correct? My lines goes vertical from about where it says F6 and to F7 and all the way verticle over the screen. If I press on the screen where it says F7 then the lines goes away. I have to push on the lower part of the screen to make them go away > Please, if you also have a screen with > missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be > very interesting. Are the IC's that you did the soldering on below where I push to make the lines go away? > Unfortunately, I will NOT repair your screens. I cannot do so, because > I don't have the tools for SMD soldering. For the one reair I did today > I had the opportunity to use the SMD tools in a laboratory in my > university. But this was an exception. You need a soldering iron which > blows hot air onto the contacts of the ICs. I can have my dad fix this for me. He has all the SMD soldering thingys at work so that is not a problem. But I need to know step by step how to dismantle the Hplx. I am a bit scared to take it apart. How much do I have to take it apart to get to these IC's? > Please note: There are two kinds of screens: The one kind has ICs which > are really soldered onto the board, with accessable contacts. > The other kind has ICs of which the contacts are NOT accessable. These > cannot be repaired that way. But I doubt that these screens will be > affected by the bending anyway. How to tell what kind of screen I have. The serialnumber on the one I have problems with is: SG44302736 Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:38:37 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote: > Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to > install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing > from Win98SE itself) I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer and laptop computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network connection. So the IS is already working. > It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN > through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable > it may be more difficult. > > I expect that this is you useful. I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the connection which is already there. I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure that somebody wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which was already there. I will have a look at the archives. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:38:39 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 18:54:23 -0800, John Musielewicz wrote: > Just out of curousity, what brand, how old and how are you charging your > batteries? They are maybe a year old and Varta Accuplus Ultra 1100 MAh 1.2V > I get a good 16 to 18 hours, with plenty of juice left, out of my DS > 32 Mb with 1600 mAh Sanyo NiMH that are about a year- year and a half old, Okey maybe I should try some other batteries. I have some NIMH "photo" batteries at work. > charge them in the LX once a week and they are good to go for another week. I also charge them in the Hplx using ABC/LX. I charge them over night approx 16 hours. I get them up to approx 2.91V > Panasonics 1500 mAh are just as good and seem to withstand heavier drains a > little better. I have to throw mine away and buy another brand then. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 02:52:50 EST Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Help-WinGDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I may be showing too many hours without time off, but I cannot seem to get WinGDB to run. I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is it so simple as copying the .dll file to a specific Windows directory, or is something sinister going on here? Thanks all, Dennis (The Exhausted) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 11:28:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: OT: FS: Omnibook 800CT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, forgive the off-topic; for those who are interested: I'm currently selling an Omnibook 800CT on ebay (shipping to Europe only). Item 1300577431 GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:24 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gottfried Burckhardt wrote: > AFAIK the scan code of the key is absolutely unique to the HP > palmtops. No other keyboard can generate that code. Having said that > the only possible solution would be to develop a "table translator > routine" which grabs the scan code of the keys and stuffs the > scan code instead into the palmtop program running on a "big" = computer. it has been done exactly that way in previous versions of Palrun, but was then removed for stability reasons. The code is still in the source (commented out), I see it every day. I will not go into that for the version to come. Keyboard TSRs can become very complicated already under DOS, not to talk about all kinds of WinXXXX, where Palrun is inteded to be executed. If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases, where the application was already aware of Alt-M, I have no problem with the menu key, All of Andreas' programs I use, either support Alt-M or allow to create a macro to assign any key to the menu key. But I know, you don't give up easily. I'm looking forward to the discussion when we have our next beer ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:08:25 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable pksharma wrote: > .. is it possible to use fdisk to partition > the pcmcia card .. We had this A: B: partition discussion years ago. Many from this list were involved trying to achive a partition visible for the palmtop. All kind of tools were used under all kind of operating systems to no avail! The palmtop refuses to know B: Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:19:54 +0100 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind of Panasonic 1000mAh Ni-Cd? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I bought a pair of 1000mAh Ni-Cd batteries for use in my 200LX. The datasheet is available here: http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/p-100aasjft.pdf Can you suggest me a setting profile for use with the (now freeware) ABC/LX charging software? Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:44:09 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: CF card startup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve wrote: > The Developer's Guide says that "CardDRV" is what > does the media changed update when the system wakes up. CardDRV is just the DOS device driver I talked about recently. There is another installable device driver for C: on your palmtop, if you have the memory upgrade: RDT2T.EXE by Mack. Usually device drivers have the extension SYS, but this is not mandatory, they may also hide behind EXEs, using a different program segment prefix. AFAIK Mack also wrote a CardDRV replacement driver for the bigger flashcards. I know of no other person than Mack who could enlighten us in the start up delay problem. > Any other ideas on tracking down a specific status byte > in memory? I feel there is none. The device driver is where you have to drop the anchor. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 13:02:05 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Missing lines on the display MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 01:38:35 -0500, Martin Bergvill wrote: > Is this on the back on the screen or on the motherboard? on the back of the screen > Okey on the back of the screen then.. exactly. ;-) > So this is nothing I can do myself (or get my father to fix). You need > to dissamble the whole Hplx? Yes. I have once tried to take the scren apart without dismantling the whole LX, but that doesn't work, because the left hinge has to be opened in order to remove the screen from its case. For that you have to remove the hinge tube, for that you have to remove the two white screw-like snap things under the batteries, and there you only get by dismatling the whole LX :-( > My main machine has a problem where the screen goes black and pressing > on the left corner fixes it. But the backup Hplx I can press right of > the vertical lines and the lines dissapear. Thiy _may_ mean it is only one loose contact per missing line on that rubber band inside the screen. But it _may_ also mean it is one ot these ICs on the back. You never know exactly, because the force you apply when pressing can have effect on both. > My lines goes vertical from about where it says F6 and to F7 and all > the way verticle over the screen. If I press on the screen where it > says F7 then the lines goes away. I have to push on the lower part of > the screen to make them go away As said aboce - that doesn't explicitly tell us where the problem is. Unfortunately. > Are the IC's that you did the soldering on below where I push to make > the lines go away? :-¨ The ICs are on all the back of the screen, I haven' counted, but I think there are 10 ICs, each almost as large as a AppMgr icon. But since I think it has something to do with the bending each time you open/close the palmtop, only ICs on the right side should be affected, and these ICs are responsible for the right side of the screen. Hence my assumtion that mostly lines on the right are missing. > I can have my dad fix this for me. He has all the SMD soldering thingys > at work so that is not a problem. But I need to know step by step how > to dismantle the Hplx. I am a bit scared to take it apart. How much do > I have to take it apart to get to these IC's? Totally. Be sure you have a working spare LX. ;-) It is tricky to do it the first time. However, if you have successfully done it once, you don't want to stop anymore to dismantle LXs. There is a good description of the process (at least for the lower part, I don't know id David described also the screen part) an www.hplx.net. A link to the correct page on hplx.net is also on my homepage at www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair > How to tell what kind of screen I have. > > The serialnumber on the one I have problems with is: I don't know how the dependencies arebetween manuf. date and used screen. But I guess newer screens will have these covered ICs and only older ones the ICs wiwth the free legs. I don't know where the threshold is, though. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:46:23 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: missing lines on display report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:27:15 +0200 Daniel wrote: >Hi friends, > >finally I was able to repair a screen with missing vertical lines. SNIP My backup backup palmtop has both the hinge crack and some missing vertical lines. It is serial number SG54300657. >Pressing on the edge of the screen, as I recommend on >http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair , >sometimes also let the missing lines reappear, even in my case, and >thus this may not necessary mean that the problem is a bad contact >between electronics and glass. SNIP I tried pressing on the left side of the display as well as above and below the missing lines without any change. >My theory is that a tight hinge also affects the circuit board, because >it is bent a little bit each time you open and close the screen. >If my theroy is right, we should see that most missing lines will be in >the right part of the screen, preferrably the 5 or 10 very right >pixel columns. Is this correct? Please, if you also have a screen with >missing lines, please let me know which lines are missing! It would be >very interesting. Mine is missing one vertical line just right of the "F5" label and five vertical lines over the "F7" label, it does have a tight hinge. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:55:23 -0500 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: preffered setup for WWWlx on Omnibook 425? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All All this discussion of display emulators for palmtop programs on x86 systems has got me thinking about running WWWlx on my Omnibook 425. Also my Thinkpad 560 is has developed an ominous symptom (when I right click on a file in explorer it takes a minute or two before the pop-up menu appears) which reminds me that all my e-mail is on a fundamentally unreliable system. If anyone is using WWWlx on one of the early Omnibooks (300 or 425) could you let me know what your set-up is? I have the Accton ethernet card to connect to the cable modem. I suppose I should figure out the dial-up connection as well. Thanks Andrew ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:03:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:55 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > PE, HV and POST/LX use the 640x480 VGA screen. I added the > 800x600 UGA mode to PALRUN, but cannot yet convince Andreas' > programs to detect it ;-) I think you rather should try to convice Andreas than his programs. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:03:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:15:54 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > I fixed that but now another problem raises: If you spawn to > DOS from POST/LX, the screen mode is no longer changed to CGA > text, but remains VGA graphic. No problem if you don't change > the screen mode in the DOS shell, but if you do and exit from > the shell, POST/LX or PE are running in the screen mode you > have set in DOS. Don't know how to fix that :-( Does that also affect running externals? i.e. can't another than a PAL editor be run when editing a message in order to let Post/LX use the correct mode after exiting the editor? I don't think it is necessary to change screen modes in a DOS session, though. GtX daniel P.S.: When will the new version be available? -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:04:07 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Post/LX under Palrun under DOSEMU under Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi PK On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 05:49:05 +0530, pksharma wrote: > Wow ! an app under another ap under an OS > under another OS ! > > Amazing things still do happen ! Well, I simply want to be able to use Post/LX under Linux. I have tried vmware, but that runs waaay to slow on the 166MHz Omnibook. So I tried DOSEMU. Runs fast, but - unfortunately problems. I hope these problems are somehow related to the graphics mode swiching, so the new version of palrun _may_ avoid that. I'll report how things go on. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:04:12 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Bluetooth on HP200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bing On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:48:09 -0500, Bing Xu wrote: > Anybody know if there are any products of Bluetooth for HP200? There aren't. But I hope we'll someday find a serial port Bluetooth dongle, which is not too expensive and very small, so it can either be attached to the serial port, or maybe even placed directly inside the case of the LX. Serial dongles exist, but they are large, need external power sources and so on... PCMCIA cards etc cannot be used, because noone is writing DOS drivers dor such devices. So it must be a totally transparent solution, which looks for the palmtop as a standard serial RS232 connection, which doesn't need any driver. There is a product calld the "pico plug", sold for example by www.hantz.de, (.com?), but this one is one of these too large dvices, and the people at hantz were not very eloquent about the device when I asked a bunch of question which should lead me to enlightenment if it can be used with the HPLX or not. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:19:10 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: SUPER Files on CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available? Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 08:42:20 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind of Panasonic 1000mAh Ni-Cd? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak voltage can be ignored. Start charging at 2.32 volts or less. Depending on how low you set the stall you might want to enable trickle charging. The thing about Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to consistantly get a good charge. 1000 mAh is about the max battery capacity you'll want to use with abc/lx since it is limited to 16 hours in the fast charge. You can find the charging time by the formula Time in hours=battery Capacity in mAh*1.5/Charging current. The LX has two charging currents 100mA for the fast and 40 mA for the trickle. > Hello, > > I bought a pair of 1000mAh Ni-Cd batteries for use in my 200LX. The > datasheet is available here: > > http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/p-100aasjft.pdf > > Can you suggest me a setting profile for use with the (now freeware) > ABC/LX charging software? > > Thanks in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 09:15:02 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > Panasonics 1500 mAh are just as good and seem to withstand heavier drains a > > little better. > > I have to throw mine away and buy another brand then. > One thing about both the panasonics and sanyos is they seem to have pretty high self discharge rates. They are ok if you use them right away but not too good if you let them sit around after charging. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 16:31:28 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > > If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases, > where the application was already aware of Alt-M, > > I have no problem with the menu key, All of Andreas' programs I > use, either support Alt-M or allow to create a macro to assign > any key to the menu key. I can't verify this since I'm on the road, but ... Alt-M or any other key in PRO/LX under Palrun on a Compaq laptop running on WinNT will not call the menu. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:59:28 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: To-do's WAS Staying with the HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all - I also did not use the to-do's because I thought that they were hooked to a specific date unless you F9'ed and purposely made them to repeat daily. Being a programmer I tested the to-do's, by creating a new to-do on today's date, then scrolling to tomorrow, and the to-do did not re-appear there, although I checked the Checkbox (whatsitcalled??). Then I created a todo tomorrow, and scrolled back to today and once again it did not re-appear. So I thought the to-do's were a load of bull. However, months later when I actually created a todo, I noticed that in fact, as stated in the help / manual / mailing lists, the to-do item actaully re-appears on TODAY's date, always, and on no other date other than TODAY and the date on which it was created. Well that made it worthwhile for me !! Donald Klopper Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P > I had to check you out on that Fn-t since I use Fn-a! Seems Fn-t opens > a todo which I never use while Fn-a opens the appointment ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 12:29:19 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: serial problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> either the cable (which looks quite sturdy) or the serial port on my >> 200. >> Is there a way to test the latter? > > Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial > port? If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them. I don't know where to get the loop-back connector, but if you did have one, there is a serial port test in the palmtop's built-in test suite. ***WARNING!*** Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests") if you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!! To access the test suite, turn the palmtop off, remove your card, hold down the ÝEsc¨ key and press ÝOn¨. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:08:05 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: Corrupt GDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are two kinds of data: 1. The backed up kind. 2. The kind that has not been lost *YET*. > If not, well, that's what back-ups are for... > > Bruce in Toronto Wild Wisdom Donald ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:11:42 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: me again Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a thought - remember that files copied from CD are flagged as "read-only" by Windows. Have you tried removing that readonly flag? Donald ----- Original Message ----- From: Jasper de Jong To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: me again > ... I'm sorry about my posts, but I'm seeing a lot of work getting more > and more lost. > I located an old .gdb file on one of my backup cd's, but now I find the > connectivitypack database util can't read it!!! It's not protected by > password or anything. > Does anyone have a solution? If you want you can try it yourself: > http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural/track.gdb > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:15:53 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: hp700lx battery problem Comments: To: Mikko Kangas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you in fact replace the backup battery? (The small watch-type battery next to the IR port) I don't see you mention that in your mail. >It does this with brand new alkaline batteries and with loaded nimh too. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:20:04 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: serial problem Comments: To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And didn't I learn that the hard way!!!!!!! Fortunately I had a backup, fdisk and format handy. Donald > ***WARNING!*** > Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests") if > you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND > MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:50:03 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Finally the flash card delay after power on is solved. Steve Novosad gave the idea by mentioning FIXEDA from the SDK, which is almost what we needed. FIXEDA reports "don't know" if the card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed" The new TSR is called NODELAY and it changes from the DOS point of view your flash card to a fixed (unremovable) disk. Now this means, you should treat your card like a fixed disk, if you use NODELAY. Be sure to read the DOC. Only use it if you have a good backup. Loss of all your data is very likely to happen. It probably could even destroy your card. I don't know. Find a way to lock your PCMCIA slot if you use NODELAY. I would only recommend it to users who have only one flash card, which is never removed from the slot. Then it is save and very useful. Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to unload NODELAY before removing a card, you still have a chance to reboot your system thereby removing NODELAY from memory so that the next card inserted is recognized as new card. It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power plants: You feel save as long as nothing happens. But if something happens, the damage is so tremendous, that you wish, the technology should have been never invented. Download from: http://peichl.hplx.net/nodelay.zip Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:00:00 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: serial problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, > > Doesn't the CP come with loop back connectors to test the serial > > port? If not Norton Utilities (use to?) come with them. > > I don't know where to get the loop-back connector, but if you did have one, > there is a serial port test in the palmtop's built-in test suite. The loopback connector which is needed for this test can easily made with the connectivity cable and some pieces of insulated wire: Based on the info on my homepage http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/rs232 I tried to simply shorten each pair of lines (Rx-Tx, DTR-DSR, CTS-RTS, RI and DCD simply shortened to ground and shield. This only with a few wires and the connectivity cable. This made the test routine at least show "Ctl Line" instead of "no loop", so it is a beginning, ;-) Does anyone know the correct loop wiring? I have left Ri, DCD and shield away, this resulted also in the Ctl line error. So there must still be something wrong. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 15:58:15 -0500 Reply-To: D&A Software Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Support Subject: Happy Thanksgiving Day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all of you who celebrate this holiday, I wish you a Happy thanksgiving Day! Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Post/LX on Jornada 690 under XT-CE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my 200LX programs = as I can. I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine. Post/LX, however, is not = working. I copied my c:\www directory to d:\www on the CF card in my Jornada and = changed the drive references. When I try to run Post, it aborts with a message about Not = being able to find the mailbox named Mail. I have a "mail" entry, since I = copied it directly over from the working version on my 200LX. Any ideas? Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:54:51 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Long Msg: Lithium Batteriy Review Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > IF the 30% increase in run-time between the "old" red/gold > Lithiums and the "new" E2 blue/silver Lithiums holds true, that > translates to a run-time cost of 3.5 cents per hour in the LX. > Obviously, The extra cost of Lithiums over regular alkalines is > the cost of convenience in not having to change the batteries > out so often, not tossing so many batteries into the landfill > and not encountering power drop-off problems inherent with > alkalines. But then factor in the fact that the lithium's can be used in other electric items such as flashlights which is what I do with them. They will continue powering things like flashlights even if they do not have sufficient power for the HP. I use them in my camping headlight. I think I even shoved a pair into my gps but don't recall. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 23:54:58 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: me again Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just some serial port questions? Are you running buddy and is the port locked? Does your desktop speed (baud) and the hp match? Is the com port on your desktop only used for the HP or might a mouse or palm device also be using that port or modem? Obviously, you can try another cable. There is some loop back test using a paper clip and connecting to the hp's pins but I don't know how to run it. If you do run a self-test, DO NOT run the card test on a FLASH or compact flash card - it is designed ONLY FOR SRAM (old tech) cards. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:21:54 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: MM/LX Version 2.0 is available. Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hi Avi, > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:57:01 -0800, info@DASOFT.COM wrote: > > > FYI - MM/LX version 2.0 is now on the download sites of D&A Software. = When > > you d/l MM.ZIP you'll get Version 2.0. > > Fine. I just downloaded the new version. > But so far, I could not find any improvement, which you spoke about > recently. Is somewhere a "what's new" collection? I would be interested > mainly in which bugs are fixed. Correct. What needs to be added is known. There is NO known schedule right now when these items will be added. Speculatively, I would say that maybe if there is a good discussion of what is missing still, item by item, then it will possibly help in coming up with the additions. I cannot guarantee this right now. However, I am encouraged that Andreas says he is aware of a list of things that should be added. I also found out he is NOT lurking here as I thought he was, do not know when he stopped. This means that I and the betas who are here active will relay the items to him. So if something is badly missing, can we get a good definition of the need? Will make it easier to tell Andreas what people want. here is the list he provided me: Open Issues: - JPEG/GIF support? - HTML loses hierarchy if 1 child at level 1 and no Children? - Check referrential integrity (I don't know, so don't ask me ... Assuming making sure things that think they point to something indeed do.) - Add children to collapsed - CTRL-RIGHT etc. in dialogs - Cut, paste to different level | notes are not indented correctly I understand that some of you use MindMap/LX on non-Palmtop platforms. Unfortunately, I doubt that Andreas will support problems there, so the proper forum for that would be to post here, not to ask D&A or him to support these platforms. Theere is simply no way for us to test and try out the many varieties in Notebooks, and desktops and offer help. Sorry. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:16:00 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Post/LX on Jornada 690 under XT-CE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:07:11 +1300 (NZDT) 07h25m33s ago ... On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:41:38 -0500, Steve Carder wrote: > I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my > 200LX programs as I can. I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine. > Post/LX, however, is not working. I think HP Staber reported the same on his Jordana 720. HV worked under XT-CE, albeit slowly with WWW.EXE, but POST.EXE wouldn't work. Or maybe that was with PocketDOS. - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 18:06:35 -0800 Reply-To: Larry Mittell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Mittell Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed If you find anything useful, please post it. Thanks, Larry Mittell At 10:38 PM 11/21/01, Martin Bergvill wrote: >On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote: > > > Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which you need is to > > install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet Connection Sharing > > from Win98SE itself) > >I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the >internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer and laptop >computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network connection. So >the IS is already working. > > > It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected to your home LAN > > through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you use xDSL or cable > > it may be more difficult. > > > > I expect that this is you useful. > >I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the connection which >is already there. > >I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure that somebody >wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the >Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which was already >there. I will have a look at the archives. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 09:24:26 +0100 Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carsten=20Homburg?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carsten=20Homburg?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Recommended=20glue=20to=20fix=20hinge=20crack?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to try to fix the hinge crack of my HP 200LX by putting a little drop of superglue or epoxy glue into the crack. Are there any recommendat= ions about glues that are available in Germany? Thanks, Carsten ________________________________________ Schreib mal wieder eine Karte! ePostkarten gibt es jetzt bei http://www.e= post.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:27:26 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: Palrun MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, >>But I know, you don't give up easily. I'm looking forward to the discussion when we have our next beer ;-)<< LOL, I see you got my aim. now I feel like a mole... >>If I remember right, one problem was to handle Alt-M in cases, where the application was already aware of Alt-M,<< Well, there were places it helped and worked and there were places where the "interferences" crashed the computer. May I suggest that you add an additional parameter to enable the translation if somebody wants to try using the already available routine? Just an idea worth another beer . Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:27:33 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ..pk, I don't think you need a disassembler for modifying the keyboard layout. You may use the little utility key200.com in d:\bin to alter any key on the keyboard (that works for me using a German keyboard on a US motherboard). Generate a file named keynew.lst with the key assignments you want to use. The file should look like (one key assignment per line) q : a ¬a ¬q w : b ¬b ¬w e : c ¬c ¬e r : d ¬d ¬r t : e ¬e ¬t ...and so on. Installing: Issue d:\bin\key200 keynew.lst at the command promt (or add that line to zour autoexec.bat). Removing: just run d:\bin\key200 a second time. Hopefully this is what you're looking for without using one of these disassemblers who give you lots of information, but probably not what you need . Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:27:39 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, a second front for making beers . Thanks for NODELAY.COM and please think about NODELAY2.COM| If I understand what NODELAY does: Every time the palmtop is powered on the status byte is set to "card not changed". I assume that you know how to hook into the system to perform any task at power on. Please try to add a simple logic to NODELAY: - read the unique card number and compare it to the saved value (which you saved the last time calling NODELAY, on first start of NODELAY this number is set to zero) - if the value has changed, don't change the status of the card (or set to "card changed") - if the value is identical, change to "card not changed" - save the actual unique card number to NODELAY-stack - proceed power on as usual Comments: AFAIK any flash card (disk) has an unique number (which is generated during a format). To read this number and to compare it to a stored value is the trick to make NODELAY working in any situation. Well, of course the palmtop has to be switched off to swap cards... That should even work with modems and other cards: No unique number just leads to clearing the internal stack of NODELAY (if there is no number) before proceeding with the startup routine (status set to "card changed"). Because of this stack reset changing back to a memory card just invokes the re-read of the FAT (because the card change is detected). IMHO no lock of the PCMCIA slot is needed when using NODELAY2. Should be safe . Well, having said that we should go back to talking about beers . Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:19:51 +0000 Reply-To: bnj@iname.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Need Disassembler for com files Comments: To: GBurckhardt@ATTGLOBAL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gutten tag Gottfried! Are you sure it works for you? ;-) bob -----Original Message----- From: Gottfried Burckhardt {Clip} > (that works for me using a German keyboard on a US > motherboard). {Clip} > that line to zour autoexec.bat). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:11:50 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: low cost Sandisk Flash cards in Europe? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, does someone know if there are 220 MB Sandisk flashcards available in Europe at prices mentioned on the list recently? The auctions at ebay were only shipping to U.S. txs, Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:00:42 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Help-WinGDB Comments: To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis, I just have the dll file in the same directory that I have the executable, but I imagine that if you put it in either the windows directory or another directory that is in the search path it should work. Hope this helps - bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Vest" Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 2:52 AM Subject: Help-WinGDB > I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is > it so simple as copying the .dll file to a specific Windows directory, or is > something sinister going on here? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:00:09 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Gottfried my mistake .. in my eagerness abt the disassembler i should have mentioned that it was not for the lx200 but for my regular deskop .. in dos environment i take it key200.com works for the hp lx200 .. will it work for a desktop too ? From: "Gottfried Burckhardt" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:57 PM > I don't think you need a disassembler for modifying the keyboard > layout. You may use the little utility key200.com in d:\bin to alter > any key on the keyboard (that works for me using a German keyboard on a > US motherboard). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:26:00 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: Need Disassembler for com files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" pksharma wrote: > i need a disassembler for finding out how the small > program abcd.com works .. it was made by a friend > who has since left for USA .. he is now too busy .. > this program changes the layout from qwerty to > alphabetic .. a is on top left key .. b is on the 2nd top > left key .. z is on the bottom right key .. very very > useful for all my staff who refused to work on the > 'difficult' qwerty keyboard .. i need to do some > changes to make the keyboard into fitaly kind of > keyboard .. can you help please ? its a 2k program ! > > ..pk Hi, Yes, but... 1) You can zip up the file and send it to me. I'll run it through the disassembler. But there is not much chance that you will get something all that useful. Especially if it was written in C or BASIC. The start- up code tends to muddy things. Also there are a lot of options to set, and they may do something different than you expect. With that in mind. What CPU are you targeting (8088 or 80386+)? What assembler are you using? The default is to actually make it not assemble! 2) If you can use the disassembler's code, you can use DEBUG to generate the code. (Unless you have 386 instruction codes.) And for small changes, it might be easier. 3) You could go to Simtel (an MS-DOS program repository), and download a keyboard remapper that has source code. They have a disassembler there as well. 4) Dosen't the 200LX have a key remapper built in, that would work? 5) You can remap the keyboard using ANSI.SYS, which is a part of MS-DOS. And I guess this is off topic. So we should take it off the HPLX list. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 13:33:27 -0500 Reply-To: "David M. Solinas" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David M. Solinas" Subject: Thanks, Avi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I just wanted to publicly thank D& A Software for the recently available freeware. ABC/LX, MM/LX, QUICK/LX, and TT/LX are all excellent programs. David Solinas ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:49:16 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Post/LX on Jornada 690 under XT-CE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > > I am trying to set up my Jornada 690 to run as many of my 200LX programs as I > can. I can get acCIS 4 to run just fine. Post/LX, however, is not working. I > copied my c:\www directory to d:\www on the CF card in my Jornada and changed the drive > references. When I try to run Post, it aborts with a message about Not being > able to find the mailbox named Mail. I have a "mail" entry, since I copied it > directly over from the working version on my 200LX. Any ideas? I failed to load POST/LX together with WWW/LX such as in the command www -d "!POST" under PocketDOS on my J720. I have no idea why. In your case you should check_all_path statements related to the mail directory. On the Palmtop it is most likely c:\mail. What is the drive letter under XT-CE where you have \mail ? What is in your .cfg ? Etc. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 18:51:09 -0000 Reply-To: "Richard E. McEvoy" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay Comments: cc: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello folks, I can resist anything but this kind of temptation, so two days ago I bought one for $50. They won't ship internationally if your purchase is less than $500, but I got it shipped to my N.Y. cousin. When you "Buy now" they send an e-mail telling you to phone them to learn the shipping charge and to make payment, which I just did; the shipping cost $6.50. I'm on a new Dell with WinXP using Internet Explorer, and I'm not too familiar with either. Please let me know if this is going out in HTML - I think I've configured things to send plain text to the list . Apologies if it is Html. Regards, Richard. From: "Joseph Buford" Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay > Ed, > > I agree. So far I have bought 2 from Silicon Salvage. Been very pleased. $50 ea, No tax and No Shipping (i Pick up). > > Joe > >> From: Ed Padin> Subject: Re: low-cost 220 SanDisk cards on eBay > > Well, just got mine and it seems to work well. No drivers needed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:49:15 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: MM/LX Version 2.0 is available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Avi & Beta On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:21:54 -0500, Avi wrote: > Open Issues: > > - JPEG/GIF support? Can't that be easily handled by links and lxpic? > - CTRL-RIGHT etc. in dialogs That's a matter of PAL, not MM. But Andreas said he evetually wanted to modify even the PAL library that this becomes possible. > | notes are not indented correctly Can you please say in detail what is meant here? I have never had a real problem with notes, besides that MM removes leading spaces, as we discussed earlier. But once I understood why it does, I'm now simply add a dot in front of each note line which shall begin with spaces. Another issue are the two different kinds of file format: NoteIndent= and NoteIndent=| (equal to ;NoteIndent= (commented out it defaults to "=|"). I have made a little BAT file which uses sed to convert from Noteindent=| to Noteindent= format. Works very well. But I don't know how to manage the oppowite conversion. May I suggest another feature: It would be cool if maps could be saved with their status of shown / collapsed items (maybe, if the mm file should be kept ASCII-only) simply in a seperate file, say for FILE.MM these info could be saved in FILE.INI or so... Other data could easily be saved there, too. Or _at_least_ it would be good to be able to save a different collapse level for each map. So the central "Collapse=x" entry in mm.cfg vould be replaced by a section ÝCollapse¨ and then there could be one entry for each MM file describing its collapse level. ÝCollapse¨ FILE1.MM=2 FILE2.MM=4 FILE3.MM=0 and so on. What do you think? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:30:18 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Thanks, Avi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "David M. Solinas" > I just wanted to publicly thank D& A Software for the > recently available freeware. ABC/LX, MM/LX, > QUICK/LX, and TT/LX are all excellent programs. > > David Solinas I concur. If all companies made such decisions at least once in a while, this would be a better world. :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:48:52 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: MM/LX Version 2.0 is available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:45:16 +1300 (NZDT) 01h56m01s ago ... On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:49:15 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Avi & Beta > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 00:21:54 -0500, Avi wrote: > > > Open Issues: > > > > - JPEG/GIF support? > > Can't that be easily handled by links and lxpic? I think that refers to support similar to .icn support. For eample the following .MM automatically displays the pictures when it is loaded. d:\bin\maze.icn d:\bin\hexcalc.icn c:\www\www.icn Caio, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 23:57:33 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob Christopher wrote: > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available? I'd buy one if available. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 19:20:33 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: serial problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 22 Nov 2001 21:20:04 +0200, Micha Klopper wrote: > And didn't I learn that the hard way!!!!!!! Fortunately I had a backup, > fdisk and format handy. > > Donald > > > ***WARNING!*** > > Never select the test suite's "card" test (and never select "all tests") > if > > you have any kind of flash card in the slot -- YOU WILL LOSE YOUR DATA AND > > MAY HARM YOUR CARD!!! This test is meant for older SRAM cards ONLY!!! Donald You are nnot alone...:-) I "nuked" my card with this test also. Had a recent backup, but lost some because of this.. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:12:25 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: OT : Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From: "Steve" > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:56 PM > 1) You can zip up the file and send it to me. I'll > run it through the disassembler. Will do .. > What assembler are you using? This was done using MASM (vers 6 probably) > The default is to actually make it not assemble! meaning ? > 3) You could go to Simtel (an MS-DOS program repository), > and download a keyboard remapper that has source code. any hints of the name of the remapper program ? .. but i would think that key200 in d:\_bin of the lx200 is better .. provided that it does work on the desktop keybd too > They have a disassembler there as well. again .. any hints of the name of the disassembler prog ? > 4) Dosen't the 200LX have a key remapper built in, > that would work? key200.com in d:\_bin .. see earlier posts .. but still to be informed whether it works on desktop .. i've posted that question to Gottfield > 5) You can remap the keyboard using ANSI.SYS, which > is a part of MS-DOS. yes .. i did it in dos a long time ago .. i've forgotten how .. anybody remember .. i detest the need to press shift to get the colon character everytime i have to mention the C: drive .. so i had just switched the colon and semicolon with the ansi.sys > And I guess this is off topic. So we should take > it off the HPLX list. yes .. i've mentioned "OT" on the subject .. so please send replies to me direct .. this should be the last msg on this topic here everybody .. thanks for your responses :-) ..pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 22:20:13 EST Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Help-WinGDB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, Both files were unzipped to the same directory, but I still get the error message. Thanks for the help, though. Dennis > I just have the dll file in the same directory that I have the executable, ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 00:55:23 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a thought... Could NODELAY be modified to allow you to change cards PROVIDED, you powered on while holding a key...Or be enabled/disabled via a key combination? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:50 PM Subject: ANN: NODELAY.COM Finally the flash card delay after power on is solved. Steve Novosad gave the idea by mentioning FIXEDA from the SDK, which is almost what we needed. FIXEDA reports "don't know" if the card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed" The new TSR is called NODELAY and it changes from the DOS point of view your flash card to a fixed (unremovable) disk. Now this means, you should treat your card like a fixed disk, if you use NODELAY. Be sure to read the DOC. Only use it if you have a good backup. Loss of all your data is very likely to happen. It probably could even destroy your card. I don't know. Find a way to lock your PCMCIA slot if you use NODELAY. I would only recommend it to users who have only one flash card, which is never removed from the slot. Then it is save and very useful. Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to unload NODELAY before removing a card, you still have a chance to reboot your system thereby removing NODELAY from memory so that the next card inserted is recognized as new card. It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power plants: You feel save as long as nothing happens. But if something happens, the damage is so tremendous, that you wish, the technology should have been never invented. Download from: http://peichl.hplx.net/nodelay.zip Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 05:48:52 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Help-WinGDB Comments: To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I may be showing too many hours without time off, but I cannot seem to get > WinGDB to run. I get an error saying that the .dll file cannot be found. Is I have hpdbdll.dll in the same directory as gdbwin's main exe file ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:06:54 +0100 Reply-To: radek.svagr@LGPHILIPS-DISPLAYS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Radek Svagr Subject: Re: Recommended glue to fix hinge crack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used the cheapest superglue I found. NOT for fixing hinge crack, but for COMPLETELY SNIPPED display. I degreased it and made a rough surface on it. I found that cheap superglues have low viscosity. I found it better for fixing this. The snipped display now lasts 4 months on 200lx which is used very frequently. Radek Carsten Homburg cc: (bcc: Radek Svagr/HRC/COMP/PHILIPS) Sent by: HPLX Subject: Recommended glue to fix hinge crack Mailing List 2001-11-23 09:24 AM Please respond to Carsten Homburg I want to try to fix the hinge crack of my HP 200LX by putting a little drop of superglue or epoxy glue into the crack. Are there any recommendations about glues that are available in Germany? Thanks, Carsten ________________________________________ Schreib mal wieder eine Karte! ePostkarten gibt es jetzt bei http://www.epost.de ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 04:03:02 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: 100LX memory expansion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyway to expand memory on a 100LX? I thought I recalled that certain 100LX's (with a certain serial number range) were capable of a memeory upgrade. Does anyone know how to do this, or if anyone does it? Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 14:02:36 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gottfried Burckhardt wrote: > a second front for making beers . To enlighten the rest of the list: we meet each other frequently at the "swabian" palmtop regulars table in Waiblingen, South Germany and take some beer or Trollinger wine ;-) Newcomers are welcome. It is organized by Tom Rundel. > Please try to add a simple logic to NODELAY: > > - read the unique card number and compare it to the saved value (which > you saved the last time calling NODELAY, on first start of NODELAY > this number is set to zero) > - if the value has changed, don't change the status of the card (or > set to "card changed") > - if the value is identical, change to "card not changed" > - save the actual unique card number to NODELAY-stack > - proceed power on as usual This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card. But I see what you mean. NODELAY could be made more comfortable, but comfort also often results in carelessness of the user, which is absolutely unwanted in this very case. A lack of comfort deters potential users, but keeps them save on the other hand. Besides, some cards have to be sacrificed to test a new NODELAY in various situations. Very costly and time consuming. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:01:16 -0500 Reply-To: esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Suresh Nirody Subject: FS: OT: Gadgets looking for a new home... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Folks, Decided to clean out my closet, so the following gadgets all looking for a good home :-) Everything as is.. they all worked the last time I fooled with them and I'm sending all the pieces I have, but won't guarantee anything, since they've been sitting unused for quite a while: a) Motorola PM100D - worked with Ardis until they dumped us a couple of years ago. May only be good for WinCE. Cost =3D shipping only. b) Delorme Earthmate - hardware only. Cost =3D shipping only. c) Pegasus 3JTech 56 Modem. Small, only "problem" is that it's powersource is a keyboard pass-thru dongle. Cost =3D shipping only. d) Caldera Openlinux 2.2 + Powerquest Partition Magic 4.0 Cost =3D shipping only. e) Matsucom onHand wearable PC. Cost =3D $10 + shipping. f) Cross Pad XP. All pieces except the training paperwork. Cost =3D shipping. Here's how it goes: Please reply off list to snirody@clarian.org If someone will take the whole lot I'd greatly prefer that (less work for me shipping), otherwise first request I receive for each part gets it. Once again - AS IS, but the price is right!! Suresh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:10:47 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM In-Reply-To: <166zrC-1ijj0KC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Stefan, Nodelay doesn't seem to have any effect on my lx. I have a sandisk 350mb card and use the acecard driver. Could there be a conflict with this, or with the T2T drivers for a DS32LX? Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:17:15 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Bob Christopher wrote: > > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on > > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available? > > I'd buy one if available. > > Cheers... Russ If no one from SUPER comes forward I could burn a few copies. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:40:59 +0100 Reply-To: "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD Comments: To: "kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And if I got one, I could start distributing the things at about cost (plus a euro for effort ;-) inside Europe. So, I'll take one if someone burns it first.. If people are interested (EU only for starters) I have about 125MB available for the LX's now, being: a) Some 320 programs LX /Dos (40 MB), including fairly unfindable (non-SUPER) oddities like Taskbar, flashfile drivers etc etc b) plus the full HPLX listserver message logs. c) Photo's, other LX docs and sundries I am NOT going to set up production, but won't mind burning some CD's. Conditions: Paypal, Europe. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kopplin Ýmailto:kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU¨ Sent: 24 November 2001 16:17 To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD > Bob Christopher wrote: > > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on > > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available? > > I'd buy one if available. > > Cheers... Russ If no one from SUPER comes forward I could burn a few copies. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 08:04:05 -0800 Reply-To: Ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ian Butler Subject: Re: SUPER Files on CD In-Reply-To: <200111221430.fAMEUDk11273@ez0.ezlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Nov 2001, Bob Christopher wrote: > Has anyone created a CD with all the HPLX programs and files on > S.U.P.E.R.? Are copies available? No, because of the difficulties in obtaining permission from the authors of all the software -- in fact, copies of SUPER on CD cannot be legally distributed because a number of authors of software on SUPER have specifically prohibited the inclusion of their software on a CD of any sort. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 09:28:30 -0700 Reply-To: Kiyoshi Akima Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kiyoshi Akima Subject: disassembler Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I'm surprised nobody mentioned the disassembler built into the ROM of the 200LX. It won't generate files that can easily be passed back into an assembler but it does do a passable job of disassembling 8086 code. I refer, of course, to D:\DOS\DEBUG.EXE . Kiyoshi Akima _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 10:35:47 -0600 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: SUPER on CD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll second Ian's admonition about copying files from SUPER and putting them on a CD; and add that I'm still stinging from the vitriolic email received from several authors when we inadvertently posted their software on SUPER. (Some of it had to be removed, some remained but only after profuse apologies and 'gifts' to the authors.) OTOH: The CD InfoBase from Thaddeus Computing has about 90% of the files currently on SUPER plus many more that never made it to SUPER, plus so many other goodies that it would take the life time of an LX to go through it all. It's missing the last year's worth of uploads to SUPER (but these could probably fit on a floppy disk). The search engine/viewer for the past issues of The HP Palmtop Paper may or may not work in WinME/XP but the duplicate set of documents in HTML will do so. BTW: www.PalmtopPaper.com is back in business with a brand new shopping cart, thanks to the Webmaster, Matt Arrant. .ed. (no longer affiliated with the company: once again just a satisfied user) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 20:29:58 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: OT : Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Debug.exe .. the regular msdos debug program .. This was the 1st to be mentioned in other not related posts .. meaning not related to my request .. it's a bit difficult to follow what its does .. ..pk (also now it is OT - off topic ! no more postings on this pl .. any one wanting to communciate on this .. send me an email : pksharma@india.com ) From: "Kiyoshi Akima" Subject: disassembler > I'm surprised nobody mentioned the disassembler built into the ROM of the > 200LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:44:07 +0100 Reply-To: Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: Re: me again Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi! First of all, thanks for all your help guys! > Just some serial port questions? > Are you running buddy and is the port locked? I was, but now the HP has completely reset and it still doesn't work... > Does your desktop speed (baud) and the hp match? Yes, I check the settings over and over again. > Is the com port on your desktop only used for the HP or might a mouse or > palm device also be using that port or modem? It's dedicated to the HP. I've also tried my laptop, but with no luck. > Obviously, you can try another cable. Yeah, that'd be the most simple solution. the only thing is I can't find a cable in this neighbourhood. I guess I have to try to check the cable with a multimeter... Thanks again! Jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 16:35:37 -0500 Reply-To: esseni@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Suresh Nirody Subject: FS: Gadgets followup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry folks, Al put in the first bid for the entire lot, so that's where I'll be sending it. Suresh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:32:39 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Grider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Keith Grider Subject: Health of the group? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to subscribe and am re-subbing. I have not needed any of the general discussions and used to read the list on the HPLX news server until it went belly up and lost my username/password. Is this group still healthy? I know that there is not another unit currently available that satisfies MY needs like the trusty 200LX. I just got DSL at home and am now trying to get Ethernet capability for the LX and was dismayed that SUPER as well as HPLX was down. I thought that they may have 'ceased to be' (as in ex-parrot). Relief was that I just logged in and all was still well in LX land as both Super and HPLX.net were back up. Is there any other solution for Ethernet other than the Accton 2216? I know that this or the Silicom used to be the only ones that work. Any other PCMCIA solutions out there (low power with drivers)? Regards, Keith Grider 200LX 2mb+6mb 2x speed modem CF backup ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 12:54:16 +0100 Reply-To: Jasper de Jong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jasper de Jong Subject: email and tcpip MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi! I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people are actually using their 200 to read their mail. I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 into an email-reader/writer. What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A packet unfortunately... thanks jasper -- djdjo000@wxs.nl http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:25:00 -0500 Reply-To: Tralornik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tralornik Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know very little about this, but check out: http://www.palmtop.com/ for email usage. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasper de Jong" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: email and tcpip > Hi! > > I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people > are actually using their 200 to read their mail. > I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 > into an email-reader/writer. > What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A > packet unfortunately... > > thanks > jasper > > -- > djdjo000@wxs.nl > http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural > > Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:39:34 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: Jasper de Jong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's. I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs, address book, I think. GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and mailboses, send and receive attachments. Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasper de Jong" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: email and tcpip | Hi! | | I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people | are actually using their 200 to read their mail. | I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 | into an email-reader/writer. | What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A | packet unfortunately... | | thanks | jasper | | -- | djdjo000@wxs.nl | http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural | | Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:42:09 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: Need Disassembler for com files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bob, >>> that line to zour autoexec.bat).<< >>Gutten tag Gottfried! Are you sure it works for you? ;-) bob<< well... yes.... most time. Hmm, too much fiddling without reboot or reinstalling key200 (you see, now it works again ). Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:42:11 +0000 Reply-To: Gottfried Burckhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gottfried Burckhardt Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, >>This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card.<< good point. Hmm. So we need a second indicator. Any writing to the card results in rewriting the FAT, but for sure not the whole one. Do you know about a register (or a cell) which is rewritten if a write to the card occured? Something like "size of the FAT". Or another cell? If you know such a byte you can sense the content or at least you can write a signature into that place which will be deleted, overwritten or altered when something was written to the card from another computer... >>Besides, some cards have to be sacrificed to test a new NODELAY in various situations. Very costly and time consuming.<< Regarding scrapping a card. I'd risk one, if I understand what you're doing . BTW there is a rumor about the next meeting in Waiblingen on Dec. 14th, check your plans . Bye for now Gottfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 11:33:01 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Re: To-do's WAS Staying with the HPLX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a minute Donald! Would actually prefer you to revise your signature line from "Donald Klopper Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P" to: Donald Klopper One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P ¬¬¬¬¬¬ ¬ as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user !!!! Best regards to all from Nigel R who is also in sunny South Africa :-) P.S. Hope no offence taken as nothing other that a SMILE intended... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 06:43:41 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: "djdjo000@WXS.NL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Write to me in private at info@dasoft.com about what you do and what the trip you plan is all about. If my guess is right= , maybe something can be done ... Avi << What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A packet unfortunately... >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:28:01 +0100 Reply-To: Edy Wijaya Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edy Wijaya Subject: email from PC to 200lx ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi All, how can i read/synchronize my email from PC(Eudora) to HP 200lx? need i like a IntelliSync (like a palm etc)? many thanks! edy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:15:06 +1100 Reply-To: Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Re: email from PC to 200lx ? Comments: To: Edy Wijaya MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several years ago, I wrote a program called "palm link" (which is on Super) which will sync between Eudora and the palmtop. Has anyone else made a similar program for Outlook or Outlook Express? Regards, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edy Wijaya" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: email from PC to 200lx ? > Hi All, > > how can i read/synchronize my email from PC(Eudora) to HP 200lx? need i > like a IntelliSync (like a palm etc)? > > many thanks! > > edy > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:37:10 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: email and tcpip In-Reply-To: <000b01c1758c$b59cade0$6401a8c0@thispest> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo all, I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is dead. Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas? Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's. I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs, address book, I think. GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and mailboses, send and receive attachments. Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasper de Jong" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: email and tcpip | Hi! | | I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people | are actually using their 200 to read their mail. | I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 | into an email-reader/writer. | What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A | packet unfortunately... | | thanks | jasper | | -- | djdjo000@wxs.nl | http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural | | Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:41:57 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: Michael Lennartz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll send it Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Lennartz" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 02:37 PM Subject: Re: email and tcpip Hallo all, I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is dead. Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas? Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's. I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs, address book, I think. GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and mailboses, send and receive attachments. Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jasper de Jong" To: Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM Subject: email and tcpip | Hi! | | I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people | are actually using their 200 to read their mail. | I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 | into an email-reader/writer. | What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A | packet unfortunately... | | thanks | jasper | | -- | djdjo000@wxs.nl | http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural | | Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml | | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:48:45 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: email and tcpip Jasper de Jong writes: > Hi! > > I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot of people > are actually using their 200 to read their mail. > I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about turning my 200 > into an email-reader/writer. > What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A > packet unfortunately... Actually, there are several options. I've used all of them, so have put together a little table to summarize the characteristics: package cost setup multPOP addr news www ftp telnet ------- ---- ----- ------- ---- ---- ---- --- ------ WWW/LX yes easy yes good yes yes yes yes? Goin'Postal no easy yes good no no no no LXTCP/PNR no hard yes weak yes no yes yes cc:Mail no easy no okay no no no no NOTES Cost reflects only software. If using cc:Mail you must dial a phone number in California which incurs long distance phone charges. The cost would probably be prohibitive from abroad. You can get telnet (and news, www, or ftp?) with GP if you track down the extra programs. You would use GP to establish the connection and escape out of it to run the others. I'm not sure how hard it is to configure them. WWW/LX has pretty capable filtering functions, LXTCP/PNR has only a simple kill function. I'm not sure about GP, but think it is somewhere inbetween the two. I get web access with LXTCP/PNR by opening a telnet session to a Unix shell account and running Lynx on the remote server. It's pretty limited, but meets many of my needs. DataComm is another option, if you have a dial-up account somewhere. Of course the the same calling cost issues would exist as with cc:Mail. You would also be managing your e-mail on another server somewhere, not on your HPLX. CONCLUSIONS If you only want e-mail, I would suggest Goin' Postal. If you want more function I would suggest either WWW/LX ot LXTCP/PNR, whichever works with your budget and computer prowess. Hope this information helps. I trust others will correct any mistakes I've made in my presentation. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:22:23 +0100 Reply-To: Guenther Eisele Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Guenther Eisele Subject: ANN: Update database with German dial-in providers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List, and sorry for this second announcement: I updated the database with German dial-in providers which you can use via mobile phone, hotel or (in Germany) for free surfing on Sundays (like I do at the moment). There is a possibility for subscription on the homepage, through which you can receive update announcements. Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:30:29 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM Comments: To: Mike Kopplin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Kopplin wrote: > Nodelay doesn't seem to have any effect on my lx. I have a > sandisk 350mb card and use the acecard driver. Could there be a > conflict with this, or with the T2T drivers for a DS32LX? It must be the acecard driver, the T2T driver I'm using myself. Probably the acecard driver is not compatible to the original carddrv of the palmtop in terms of function dispatcher list entries and the like. FYI: I'm not using NODELAY, change cards to often and really must rely on my 96MB CF content. My default drive is anyway the fast 64MB T2T C: Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:00:48 -0800 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: email and tcpip MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << package cost setup multPOP addr news www ftp telnet ------- ---- ----- ------- ---- ---- ---- --- ------ WWW/LX yes easy yes good yes yes yes yes? Goin'Postal no easy yes good no no no no LXTCP/PNR no hard yes weak yes no yes yes cc:Mail no easy no okay no no no no >> I'll also add the old text-based NetTamer (available at http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html). package cost setup multPOP addr news www ftp telnet ------- ---- ----- ------- ---- ---- ---- --- ------ NetTamer yes hard no okay yes yes yes yes (v1.08) I've only used the 1.08 version for palmtops (probably no longer available) and they're now up to 1.11.2, so I don't know how the new features compare to the old. Lifetime registration is $35. They have desktop and palmtop versions, but I've always just used the same palmtop version on both machines. Highly configurable, but definitely not for the faint-hearted. Some supplemental shareware utilities can be had to ease the pain. The 1.08 web browser is pretty lame, and even tho it has some other bells and whistles, I'll fess up that I've never had use for anything other than simple email (with attachments) and some news groups. The emails that you send are simple text files (prior to sending), so editing (via my favorite vi text editor) and transferring the proto-email from LX to desktop and back (sometimes a good note takes more than one sitting if you're on the move) is easily done with basic file transfer. Of the emailers listed by Ted, I've only used the built-in cc:Mail, which you can see, lacked somewhat in flexibility. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:54:21 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Last stronghold MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit contradiction in terms .. how can it be a 'stronghold' and also 'last' .. a stronghold is a STRONG HOLD ! so cannot be the last .. :-) Nigel .. good thing .. your correction .. it indeed should be ONE of the MANY last strongholds .. i am also holding out in one of the many many last strongholds of the lx 200 ! .. in india .. also a sunny land :-D .. pk , calcutta From: "Nigel Rotherham" Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 3:03 PM > One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P > as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user !!!! > Best regards to all from Nigel R who is also in sunny South Africa :-) > > P.S. Hope no offence taken as nothing other that a SMILE intended... no offence taken ! :-D .. pk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:56:24 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Goin'Postal Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit me too ! i've been searching for GP all over .. the few links i got didn't work .. cud u send me one too please Etienne ? thanks in advance .. pk >From: "Etienne Lemaire" >Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:11 PM > SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll send it > > Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 03:52:38 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: OT : Debug Comments: To: Kiyoshi Akima MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unfortunately i learned edlin, debug, linker when i picked up the dos2.11 manual .. not knowing that it was not necessary .. so i know a bit abt debug from 14 years ago .. the u, d, p, commands .. FYI, i once used it to change my boot sector, fat area, directory area, and simple files too .. besides using it to understand the com files .. but it IS a bit too technical ! no ? ..pk tks 4 yr help :-D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kiyoshi Akima" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 10:44 PM Subject: debug > DEBUG will disassemble .com files. You may need to go to a library and find > an old MS-DOS book to find how to use it, but it's what I use for simple > disassemblies. > > kiyoshi > > ____________________________________________________________ _____ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:09:05 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > << > package cost setup multPOP addr news www ftp telnet > ------- ---- ----- ------- ---- ---- ---- --- ------ > WWW/LX yes easy yes good yes yes yes yes? > Goin'Postal no easy yes good no no no no > LXTCP/PNR no hard yes weak yes no yes yes > cc:Mail no easy no okay no no no no > >> > > I'll also add the old text-based NetTamer (available at > http://www.nettamer.net/tamer.html). > > package cost setup multPOP addr news www ftp telnet > ------- ---- ----- ------- ---- ---- ---- --- ------ > NetTamer yes hard no okay yes yes yes yes > (v1.08) > > I've only used the 1.08 version for palmtops (probably no longer available) > and they're now up to 1.11.2, so I don't know how the new features compare > to the old. Lifetime registration is $35. And I, too, was going to remind folks of Nettamer, my first foray into email and newsgroups and the web. And would add a slight revision - it can do different email addresses and accounts, if I recall right, but NOT on the same run. You have to dial and log to each account separately. I've since moved on to the much more comfortable setup/interface/multiaccounts of WWW/POST/ETC (and I disclose I am a beta tester). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:32:26 -0600 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Delayed messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it just me, or is there some kind of weird delay with some of the HP list messages? I'm constantly getting messages dated two days prevously from the list, but some are current. Thanks, Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 23:41:54 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Goin'Postal In-Reply-To: <007b01c17465$81b18be0$4d74c5cb@pksharmacal> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 24 Nov 2001 02:56:24 +0530 pksharma a =E9crit: > me too ! i've been searching for GP all over =2E=2E > the few links i got didn't work =2E=2E > cud u send me one too please Etienne ? The last known link was: http://gfys=2Enet/gp/gp5r1=2Eexe =20 But, if the domain name (gfys=2Enet) seems always to be owned by Steve Lawson (the author of GP), the site is not accessible at this time=2E Wait a few days=2E=2E=2E Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 01:07:44 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Delayed messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > Is it just me, or is there some kind of weird delay with some of > the HP list messages? I'm constantly getting messages dated two > days prevously from the list, but some are current. Thanks, Bryan Interesting question. I currently have 19 posts in my LX List folder with the following dates (as shown by Alt-D in Post/LX). 11/23 - 1 11/24 - 3 11/25 - 14 11/26 - 1 ...good trick, it's now 11/25 17:00 PST in California :-) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:04:52 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? In-Reply-To: <200111192301.SAA02019@siaar1ab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Walgreens batts (a jap brand) are good value and give 25+ hrs. The new NMh giving 18oo mah is good value too. yor pal al............... --- Stanley Dobrowski wrote: > I used to be a BIG fan of rechargeables until I > got a new 200LX > with double speed and the 32MB upgrade. Since > then, the NiMH's > just don't give me enough time between charges. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 05:14:18 -0000 Reply-To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: low cost Sandisk Flash cards in Europe? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:11:50 +0100 > From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" > Subject: low cost Sandisk Flash cards in Europe? > does someone know if there are 220 MB Sandisk flashcards available > in Europe at prices mentioned on the list recently? > The auctions at ebay were only shipping to U.S. I was quite excited to discover that my local, tiny camera shop is selling SanDisk 128MB CF cards for =A389 (something like $125 depending = on ROE). This is _really_ cheap for this part of the world - UK. This was in Lincoln, a sort of sleepy backwater where time stood still. Probably cheap because nobody knows what they're for - yet ;-) --=20 Chris Randle ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 00:26:19 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: email and tcpip sponsor@ftel.net writes: > http://www.dasoft.com/filelist.htm#telnet.zip > > I think the list can also take NetTamer with similar attributes to WWW/LX. Thanks for the confirmation on telnet, Avi. Also for the reminders on Net-Tamer, Avi and Longden. When I started writing the summary I intended to include Net-Tamer, but somehow I forgot. The question gets asked enough here that I thought I'd make a table that could be reused. With Longden's permision I'd like to include some of his notes next time it comes up. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:11:06 +0100 Reply-To: dongej bv - johan van donge Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dongej bv - johan van donge Subject: hplx mailing list via compuserve forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" hi all, can you also receive these hplx news messages via a compuserve forum with the programm ACCIS? bye johan -- dongej b.v. p.o.box 8150, 3009 ad rotterdam kipstraat 7d, 3011 rr rotterdam tel.0031-10-4333700 fax.0031-10-4331373 bankno.deutschebank 26.54.82.305 bankno postbank 8687965 vatno NL007151615B01 we act as forwarding agents and the general conditions of the federation of the dutch forwarding agents association disposed at the district court in rotterdam, latest edition, shall apply here to. you are in possession of a copy of these conditions . in case it will be decided that we are considered carriers in our contractual relation, the conditions which apply vis a vis the actual carrier(s) shall apply to this contract (chamber of commerce rotterdam142459). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:42:17 +0100 Reply-To: Harry Wellner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Wellner Subject: PC-Card dubble sized MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi list, I want to do some experiments with a Compac GSM Radio PC Card. I was able to obtain this card as second hand. This dubble sized PC Card is able to cummunicate under DOS. However, the HP200LX slot is too small. I am looking for a extender solution. Also interested to learn for a work around from USB to PC-Card interface if known. Many thanks Harry WELLNER ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:16:04 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gottfried Burckhardt wrote: > >>This is insufficient, because a card with the same number can > have modified FAT and directory entries. The card was possibly > in your notebook in the meantime, and you copied to the card.<< > > good point. Hmm. So we need a second indicator. Any writing to the card > results in rewriting the FAT, but for sure not the whole one. I think, if a bullet proved solution existed, one would not have invented the "media changed" event in device drivers for disks. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:57:27 -0500 Reply-To: Bing Xu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bing Xu Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: Etienne Lemaire In-Reply-To: <002d01c175b6$fad8e2a0$6401a8c0@thispest> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I couldnot find the GP either. Could you please send me the software to bing@engga.uwo.ca Thank you. Bing On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Etienne Lemaire wrote: > SUPER, of course. But otherwise, drop me a line and I'll send it > > Etienne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Lennartz" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 02:37 PM > Subject: Re: email and tcpip > > > Hallo all, > > I sometimes tried to download Goin' Postal, but the link is > dead. > Seems, that there is no way to get it. Any ideas? > > > Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton > > Michael Lennartz > lennartz-mi@gmx.net > Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > I am a long time user of Goin'Postal, which is free, easy to use > and very reliable; a bit hard to get working on some GSM's. > I seem to remember that Post/LX offers more in this regard: SMs, > address book, I think. > > GP (on Super) lets you have access to multiple providers, and > mailboses, send and receive attachments. > > Etienne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jasper de Jong" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 12:54 PM > Subject: email and tcpip > > > | Hi! > | > | I've been on this list for a week or so now and I guess a lot > of people > | are actually using their 200 to read their mail. > | I'm going abroad for a few months and I'm thinking about > turning my 200 > | into an email-reader/writer. > | What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to > buy the D&A > | packet unfortunately... > | > | thanks > | jasper > | > | -- > | djdjo000@wxs.nl > | http://members.tripodnet.nl/binaural > | > | Binaural - Unison EP on DJAX-UP-BEATS - 298 > | > | ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > | > | > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > Mit freundlichem Gru_ / Regards / Saluton > > Michael Lennartz > lennartz-mi@gmx.net > Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:15:50 +0200 Reply-To: Micha Klopper Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Micha Klopper Subject: Re: To-do's WAS Staying with the HPLX Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My first impressions of the HP (95LX) was during university studies (civil engineering) when I had a Sharp Basic programmable calculator, and I saw some lucky guy with this thing that could run DOS programs. Well, true as Bob eight years later I could afford my own, (a 700LX and a 200LX), and the little thing still amazes me. That's why I will continue to tinker with the HP until I die (or it or my eyesight dies). > Just a minute Donald! Would actually prefer you to revise your signature line > from > > "Donald Klopper > Africa's last HPLX stronghold. :-P" > > to: > > Donald Klopper > One of Africa's last HPLX strongholds. :-P > ¬¬¬¬¬¬ ¬ > > as I also am a enthusiastic (albeit HP95) LX user !!!! > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:29:43 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Help: Lost posts in archive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the posts from October 7 to November 7. Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would work best but I can also use the digests. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:03:19 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: "remce@gofree.indigo.ie" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Richard, Thanks for the heads-up. It was meant for Jasper who was looking for ways to use email on the Palmtop. Hmmmm... I hope he= reads this because I do not have his email address now. If he reads it, then please write to me in person, and tell me w= hat you do (I mean Jasper) - and if Jasper does what I think he does, I may have some sort of help in solving his problem= in obtaining D&A's WWW/LX... There, less cryptic. I can see why you thought it was cryptic Thank you again... Avi ÝD&A¨ Original Message: ----------------- From: Richard E. McEvoy remce@gofree.indigo.ie Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:23:39 -0000 To: sponsor@ftel.net Subject: Re: Re: email and tcpip Avi, It seems this (cryptic) message came to me by mistake. I'm mentioning this in case it causes complications or embarrassment elsewhere :) Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "sponsor@ftel.net" To: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: Re: email and tcpip Write to me in private at info@dasoft.com about what you do and what the trip you plan is all about. If my guess is right, maybe something can be done ... Avi << What's the best software for this? I don't have the cash to buy the D&A packet unfortunately... >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:08:26 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: Delayed messages Comments: To: "rlbrooks@POBOX.COM" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > 11/26 - 1 ...good trick, it's now 11/25 17:00 PST in California :-) Nah! There are timezones outside California, really! Some of them even ahead of California, say Arizona, New York, New Ze= aland ... We californian pride ourselves on being the center of the universe, the most advanced and all that, but the = fact is there are people who trick us out of that distinction by living in places like Wellington NZ which are almost alw= ays tomorrow! Best Regards, Avi A california, ahead of California by 2 hours in just-began-to-be-snowy Minnesota! -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:15:27 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: "theise@netins.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Ted, << When I started writing the summary I intended to include Net-Tamer, but somehow I forgot. >> Senior moment! We are all here to help those in senior monets << The question gets asked enough here that I thought I'd make a table that could be reused. >> Yes, it was a good piece of compact information. We seem to specialize in certain items we answer over and over. Kinda fu= n. Reminds me of the people who lived outside the established society in the movie Fahrenheit 451. Each was assigned a sp= ecific book to learn by heart so it is not lost in a society that burned written words Avi ÝD&A¨ -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:18:17 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: hplx mailing list via compuserve forum Comments: To: "johan@DONGEJ.NL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" It will not show up in a Compuserve forum, but you can signup to the list and give your compuserve email address, then pi= ck up the email with acCIS. << can you also receive these hplx news messages via a compuserve forum with the programm ACCIS? >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:18:47 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Kopplin wrote: > The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was > automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this > until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the > posts from October 7 to November 7. > > Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would > work best but I can also use the digests. Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:32:03 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > The email account I use to archive the HPLX-L posts was > > automatically unsubscribed in October, and I did not catch this > > until early this month. As a result, I am missing most of the > > posts from October 7 to November 7. > > > > Does anyone have these posts saved? The raw email messages would > > work best but I can also use the digests. > > Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts. I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer maintaining a digest archive. I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct Al? I could use that format also if not. Regards, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:32:13 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 Comments: To: Martin Bergvill In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx, WatTCP stuff, etc.). BTW: I wasn't shouting. My caps key was stuck and I'm too lazy to edit > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Martin Bergvill > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 1:39 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 > > > On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:07:30 +0100, Juan Belmonte Moreno wrote: > > > Sorry, I could be wrong. But I think that the one which > you need is to > > install a proxy program in your desktop. (Or Internet > Connection Sharing > > from Win98SE itself) > > I run Win2000Pro on the main computer which is connected to the > internet. Then I have Win98SE on the other desktop computer > and laptop > computer. I can surf on the laptop through the network > connection. So > the IS is already working. > > > It allows you to do Intenet on every computer connected > to your home LAN > > through your desktop dial-up Internet connection. If you > use xDSL or cable > > it may be more difficult. > > > > I expect that this is you useful. > > I do that already, but how to get WWW/LX to "see" the > connection which > is already there. > > I will try some more when I get the time, but I am sure > that somebody > wrote here at the list about some utility which he installed on the > Winxx machine which made WWW/LX "see" the connection which > was already > there. I will have a look at the archives. > > Regards > > -- > Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:46:55 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: Re: To-do's WAS Staying with the HPLX Comments: To: Micha Klopper In-Reply-To: <001901c17695$9df26e00$8b26840a@mkmain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HP 95/100/200LX palmtops RULE. Someone had to say it. 8-) --- Micha Klopper wrote: > My first impressions of the HP (95LX) was during > university studies (civil > engineering) when I had a Sharp Basic programmable > calculator, and I saw > some lucky guy with this thing that could run DOS > programs. Well, true as > Bob eight years later I could afford my own, (a > 700LX and a 200LX), and the > little thing still amazes me. That's why I will > continue to tinker with the > HP until I die (or it or my eyesight dies). > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:13:07 -0800 Reply-To: Questor Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Questor Jones Subject: 200LX Comments: To: Ed Keefe In-Reply-To: <005e01c17506$15d94a60$48b5e03f@ed01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ed, Are you still using the 200LX as your primary PDA or have you moved on to newer models of PDAs? Just curious since you don't seem very active on the list and you were arguably one of the biggest 200LX supporters. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:21:20 -0000 Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Paulo_Cust=F3dio?= Subject: Integration of PIM/PE with TT/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First of all I would like to thank the D&A Soft team for the great programs they have produced, and for making TT/LX free. I had already evaluated TT/LX in the past and found it very good, but too much for what I needed then. Now I decided to give it a second chance, and I am quite happy with it. I managed to integrate PE/PIM (which I use to track all my appointments and to-dos) with TT/LX in a very neat way: - I've changed the default extension of the TT/LX memo files from .MEM to .PIM (make a backup copy of tt.exe, open it in PE, search for "MEM" without the quotes, replace it with "PIM", and save) - I create my TT/LX database in the same directory as the PE/PIM cur.pim file. With these changes in place and whenever I have an important meeting, I use the Memo feature of TT/LX to create an automatic file 1YYMMDDx.PIM in the PIM directory. I enter there a +a appointment entry, with info about meeting goals and participants, and +t entries for all the action items resulting from the meeting. This way I can search from both TT/LX and PE/PIM for the decisions of a meeting and track the status of all resulting tasks. Hope this can help anyone, Regards, Paulo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:57:43 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive Comments: To: mchem1@uconnvm.uconn.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Kopplin wrote: > > Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts. > > I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer > maintaining a digest archive. > > I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct > Al? I could use that format also if not. Huh? (!!!) Al, I hope this isn't true. Please say you'll continue building the monthly LOGyymm.Zip archives. I haven't saved any of the daily posts because I assume I can get the archives later. I have all the archive zip files thru Sept 2001. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:27:13 +0000 Reply-To: bnj@iname.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, If you still don't have them, I have them in digest form. Let me know and = I'll send them. bob (I've got most digests for the last 4 or so years.) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Kopplin To: HPLX-L@UConnVM.UConn.Edu Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:32:03 -0700 Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer maintaining a digest archive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:29:20 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > Al should have them as he makes archives of each month's posts. > > > > I checked with Al first. Unfortuneately, he is no longer > > maintaining a digest archive. > > > > I assumed this meant the monthly logs as well. Is that correct > > Al? I could use that format also if not. > > Huh? (!!!) > Al, I hope this isn't true. Please say you'll continue building > the monthly LOGyymm.Zip archives. I haven't saved any of the Al informed me that the monthly logs are still created, and this solves my problem for the archives. Thanks Al, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:37:15 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Help: Lost posts in archive In-Reply-To: <1006813633.5803dffcbnj@myrealbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Bob Penick wrote: > Mike, > If you still don't have them, I have them in digest form. > Let me know and I'll send them. > bob > (I've got most digests for the last 4 or so years.) Thanks. I found that the monthly logs are still available so my problem is solved. Good to know there's another archive of the list though. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:54:48 +0100 Reply-To: Edy Wijaya Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Edy Wijaya Subject: Assembler for 200lx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi All, i have tried some assembly-progs on my hp,none could run 'normally'. I've used maxdos too.maybe i need dos assembly 16-bit,but i can't find that with IDE. Thanks for the helps. edy NASM(IDE) need too big ram and more power-CPU :-( ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 16:17:48 -0700 Reply-To: Donald Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Donald Puscher Subject: Pro/LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm trying to set up my project schedules using Pro/LX but am having a bit of a problem. Having looked at the user doc I think I might be using it in a way that I shouldn't, hence, this email :) I have about eight projects that I want to track. Most of the projects overlap. I might work on Project A for two days and then work on Project B for the next three. Project A might be due on the 27th and Project B on the 15th of the following month. I don't necessarily need to track tasks for each project, just the start and end dates. If I put all the projects in one PIM file, I can see how much of each project is done, but I can't use some of the Pro/LX features, like Check. If I create a PIM for each project, I can't see the "big picture" and I can't go back and forth between projects without closing Pro/LX and opening it again. So, my questions are: 1. Is there some way to open a new project PIM without closing Pro/LX? Something like File>Open? 2. Any suggestions on how to organize my projects to get the best results, given the above scenario? Thanks, Don (the Project Challenged) PS -- Thanks to D&A for making their wonderful programs available for the LX. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:29:20 EST Reply-To: TCU549@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Doyle Subject: Re: Integration of PIM/PE with TT/LX Comments: To: paulocustodio@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What a great system! Thanks for sharing it with us. Kat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 23:53:50 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Folding Keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Has anyone put togather a way to use the lx with one of the folding = keyboard that are now on the market? I use the newton keyboard now and = it works fine, but the folding keyboard would be handier on trips. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:57:41 -0800 Reply-To: "Wayne E. Yang" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Wayne E. Yang" Subject: HP 200LX in Pen Computing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-487071839-1006826261=:79051" --0-487071839-1006826261=:79051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I cannot reprint the article here yet, but I wanted everyone to know that my essay on the HP 200LX appears in the current issue of Pen Computing. "Mourning a Lost Platform," Pen Computing, pp. 80-81. Please let me know what you think. Best regards, Wayne --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. --0-487071839-1006826261=:79051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 I cannot reprint the article here yet, but I wanted everyone to know that my essay on the HP 200LX appears in the current issue of Pen Computing. "Mourning a Lost Platform," Pen Computing, pp. 80-81. Please let me know what you think.

Best regards,

Wayne


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Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. --0-487071839-1006826261=:79051-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:10:26 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Delayed messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:00:26 +1300 (NZDT) 12h52m ago ... On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:08:26 -0500, sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > but the fact is there are people who trick us out of that > distinction by living in places like Wellington NZ which > are almost alw ays tomorrow! Avi, Greetings to snowy Minnesota from Wellington, NZ :) You explain posts from the CA's future , but from the past is harder. Those apparently from the past (judging from the Date: header) seem to come from clients with either the local date set wrong, or they post long after writing (and the client stores the composition date - unusual AFAIK). Or .. there were a few with long delays getting from the local SMTP to HPLX. But HPLX itself seems to be prompt at resending. That implies maybe a local routing problem. > A california, ahead of California by 2 hours > in just-began-to-be-snowy Minnesota! Keep warm :) Caio, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:41:41 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Folding Keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How many people on this list (or out of this list too !) use an external keyboard ? i understand that there are quite a few types of keyboard which work thru the com port for inputting into the lx .. is this correct ? or are there only one or two types ? which is the smallest keyboard which can be used for all fingers typing ? and what does it cost ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Castor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:23 AM Subject: Folding Keyboard All, Has anyone put togather a way to use the lx with one of the folding keyboard that are now on the market? I use the newton keyboard now and it works fine, but the folding keyboard would be handier on trips. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:59:45 -0500 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:32:13 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE > HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes > the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the > LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx, > WatTCP stuff, etc.). > > BTW: I wasn't shouting. My caps key was stuck and I'm too lazy to edit Thanks Ed I will check it out. This sounds like what I want. REGARDS :-) -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:25:42 +0100 Reply-To: "J. Belmonte" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "J. Belmonte" Subject: OT: Using JDM programmer with HP LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Maybe it's no so OffTopic... The main use of my HP200LX is C programming for ArizonaMicrochip's PIC micrcocontroller family. In my desktop I have PICstartPlus (also from Microchip) but I want to use an home made JDM programmer (also known as Ludipipo and some other aliases) with my lovely and useful 200LX. The standard COM84 driver for PIP-02 programmer HANGS very easily. I don't know if it's PIP2 or driver itself, but HANGS and I need to remove power to reboot (bye bye C: data!!) Anyone knows what software can work on the 200LX?? Another option: I have an public domain source code for an PIC16F84 programmer (in Pascal). Mainly I'm using PIC 16F87x (16F84 & 16F628 also). I can modify / recompile to my needs... But I don't want to learn Pascal. (I don't like pascal and have no time, sorry) If it's being ANSI C... (Sorry for my BAD english) Thanks to all Juan Belmonte, ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:07:16 -0800 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Help:I can't turn it on! In-Reply-To: <000501c17736$41b7fa00$f390753e@medtelecom.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I tried Shift+Esc+ON too. Any idea? Thanks, Bulent --- "J. Belmonte" wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe it's no so OffTopic... > > The main use of my HP200LX is C programming for > ArizonaMicrochip's PIC > micrcocontroller family. > > In my desktop I have PICstartPlus (also from > Microchip) but I want to use > an home made JDM programmer (also known as Ludipipo > and some other aliases) > with my lovely and useful 200LX. > > The standard COM84 driver for PIP-02 programmer > HANGS very easily. > I don't know if it's PIP2 or driver itself, but > HANGS and I need to remove > power to reboot (bye bye C: data!!) > > Anyone knows what software can work on the 200LX?? > > Another option: > I have an public domain source code for an PIC16F84 > programmer (in Pascal). > Mainly I'm using PIC 16F87x (16F84 & 16F628 also). > I can modify / recompile to my needs... > But I don't want to learn Pascal. (I don't like > pascal and have no time, > sorry) > If it's being ANSI C... > > (Sorry for my BAD english) > > Thanks to all > > Juan Belmonte, > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:25:51 +0100 Reply-To: Lillebjorn Nilsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lillebjorn Nilsen Subject: Bacup problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do full backups of my HP200LX DS 8MB c:\ drive using Filer's Bacup option to my SanDisk 60MB flashdisk card. I mark "All directories and files", "Modified files only" and "Overwrite existing files". Now it stops and says: "Error Invalid file or path name." Any ideas? ----------------- Lillebjorn Nilsen, Oslo Norway http://home.online.no/~bjni/lillebjorn.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:46:35 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Download HP200LX PDF Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend a download of the manual? Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:16:41 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Assembler for 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Edy Wijaya wrote: > i have tried some assembly-progs on my hp, > none could run 'normally'. I've used maxdos > too.maybe i need dos assembly 16-bit,but i > can't find that with IDE. For years assembley programmers chuckled quietly when young programmers who were brought up with C compilers with IDEs asked for an IDE for their assembler. For the most part there weren't any good ones and the ones that existed spent a lot of time in the programmer's way. Besides, what was the point? With a good assembler and editor and debugger what purpose did an ide serve? Built in help is nice, I guess. But this is the first time I've heard someone say an assembler won't run on a platform because the IDE doesn't run. I feel the real world shifting and sliding away beneath my feet. :) Anyway, try using Masm or Tasm or A86. They don't have an IDE but they run just fine on the palmtop. And if you need built-in help try HELPPC or the Norton Guide assembley reference. Use a good editor with a shell feature that swaps to disk when you go to dos (I use qedit, now TSE Jr) and you'll find that easier to learn and use than any ide and far more powerful. But there is a problem. Symbolic debuggers (the ones in IDEs and the ones not in IDEs) fail on the 200lx. Most lock up regularly. Some lock up as soon as you run them. The solution to this is symdeb, the symbolic debugger shipped by Microsoft with Masm 4.0. It's kind of like debug but it's symbolic. It's really the foundation that Codeview was built on. But unlike Codeview there's no full screen interface. It looks like debug. It comes with a program called mapsym that builds symbol tables from link maps. It can do source level debugging if you're using C, although it's not as smooth as newer debuggers. Still, it works well. I use it with TC 2.0 as well as Tasm. It will also work pretty well with maps generated by tlink. I usually use Tasm and MS link. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:19:09 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Microsoft's aniversery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Today is the 20th aniversery of Bill Gates and Paul Allen naming Microsoft. How's that for a red letter day! :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:25:28 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Download HP200LX PDF Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was one called X-drive 20MB storage on their hardware .. no charge.. only registration .. want me to dig it up ? ..pk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert K. Meyer" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM > Does anyone know of a free web storage site for > upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend > a download of the manual? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:28:38 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Microsoft's aniversery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And it looks like it all happened only yesterday ! Lucky us ! ..pk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry" > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:49 PM > Today is the 20th aniversery of Bill Gates and Paul Allen naming > Microsoft. > > How's that for a red letter day! :) > > Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:00:01 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: MochaPPP & WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your config? aTdHvAaNnKcSe Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:51:06 +0100 Reply-To: "J. Belmonte" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "J. Belmonte" Subject: Re: Download HP200LX PDF Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you need web space, I have cable and can setup an FTP server on my own machine. Also I can upload to my web space. How you can send me the PDF?? DCC-chat, email, ... (reply in private) Juan Belmonte ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert K. Meyer To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: Download HP200LX PDF Manual > I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I > no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no > longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for > upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend > a download of the manual? > > Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:22:54 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: Integration of PIM/PE with TT/LX Comments: To: "paulocustodio@YAHOO.COM" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" << First of all I would like to thank the D&A Soft team >> You are welcome, but I think our hard team will be taking you to task for calling us "soft team" .. BTW, the business name is D&A Software ... << Now I decided to give it a second chance, and I am quite happy with it.>> Amazing how price changes open new vistas, eh? << I managed to integrate PE/PIM (which I use to track all my appointments and to-dos) with TT/LX in a very neat way: >>= Fascinating way to go... I'll post this in the Beta so that Andreas can also see it. Maybe there is something interesting= to do in TimeTracker/LX? I cannot promise anything (even if it is a tiny change), but we'll see. Very creative. Avi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:39:02 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: Delayed messages Comments: To: "th@PARADISE.NET.NZ" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" << You explain posts from the CA's future , but from the past is harder. >> Not at all. Same context: Some servers are in California, and they simply lay back, take another sip of Dos Equis beer, a= nd yawn, before the ypass along messages... << Keep warm :) >> You bet. It is fun. You can see three pictures comparing the same spot in Minnesota in Sptember and the last two days, check out http://www.m= eshar.org Enjoy... << Caio >> I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee ai= ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 04:14:15 +1100 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: HP200LX Manual was HP200LX PDF Manual In-Reply-To: <3C03993B.3FD2EF7A@union-tel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:46 AM 27/11/01 -0700, you wrote: >I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I >no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no >longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for >upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend >a download of the manual? > >Bob Hi all I've posted this b4 but for those that need it, The 200LX Manual 4MB PDF converts to 180k zip file in TXT format (Unzipped is 603k). I keep this zip file on my LX for easy fast searchable reference. Its the same as PDF without the screen shots, ie has all the info we need. I get a lot of emails so if you want it please email me with HPLXMAN in the subject line and I'll send. If anyone finds storage online I'll upload for web based solution yet there has been mumblings about copyright of this manual. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:46:01 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Download HP200LX PDF Manual Comments: To: pksharma MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to check it out. First 15 days is free, after that its $4.95 USD/mo. Bob pksharma wrote: > > There was one called X-drive 20MB storage on > their hardware .. no charge.. only registration .. > want me to dig it up ? > > ..pk > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert K. Meyer" > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 7:16 PM > > > Does anyone know of a free web storage site for > > upload? Or is there another location that I could > recommend > > a download of the manual? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:48:45 +0530 Reply-To: pksharma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pksharma Subject: Re: Download HP200LX PDF Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How unfortunate ! X-Drive has to be xxx'd out ! ..pk From: "Robert K. Meyer" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:16 PM > I went to check it out. First 15 days is free, after that > its $4.95 USD/mo. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:02:26 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Delayed messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:58:20 +1300 (NZDT) 01h19m18s ago ... On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 11:39:02 -0500, sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > << Caio >> > > I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little > like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee > ai ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious. Thanks for that correction Avi! It was an unintended mispelling of Ciao!!!!! - Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:16:52 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light - orders please! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, thanks for your feedback regarding your interest in more LED lights. I have decided to build one more bunch of them. So, please place your binding orders NOW (to my private address, of course). I'll accept orders until Saturday, December 8th 2001 For details about the light see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight Conditions are: One light costs 35 US$. (thirtyfive US-Dollars) I ship to anywhere in the world. Shipping costs for one light to -> Europe: 3 EURO -> Anywhere else: 6 US$ (These shipping costs are only for simple letters with sufficient packaging around the light to prevent damage. If you want a registered letter with assurance or any other shipping method, prices will probably grow a lot! I will not be responsible if a letter doesn't arrive, except it is a registered letter). For orders of more than one light, shipping costs may be slightly higher, but never more than 8 US$ for a not registered letter. I accept Paypal (indirect payment via credit card, prefered method), paybox (via mobile phone), Western Union and cheque. If you plan to pay with cheque and you order more than one light, I have to ask you to send me ONE CHEQUE PER LIGHT, because I have to pay horrible fees if one cheque is beyond the value of 100 DM. If you sign up with Paypal, please do me a favour and use this link: https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=HBF4ZT2XMWHVC I'll get a little reward for that. ;-) This could even make your light a little bit cheaper! Paypal is really the easiest and cheapest of all methods, and for all of us the most convenient one. Noone doesn't have to mess around with unnecessary fees, it is fast, secure, and Paypal really seems to be a very reliable and serious service, since they already have millions of happy customers (this is my real opinion, no ad). GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:53:48 +0100 Reply-To: Guenther Eisele Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Guenther Eisele Subject: Re: ANN: Update database with German dial-in providers In-Reply-To: <944247507.20011125142223@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 27.11.2001, 19:52, I wrote: > There is a possibility for subscription on the homepage, through which you > can receive update announcements. ...and this homepage is http://www.guenther-eisele.de/ortstarif/ Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 13:55:18 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: MochaPPP & WWW/LX Comments: To: MCHEM1@uconnvm.uconn.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I played with it for a while. I tried using it with nettamer. Unfortunately, nettamer will not do straight PPP. It needs to talk to a modem. I was able to fake it out by 'pretending' to be a modem using windows terminal and typing out 'connect 14,400' then switching to mochappp. It worked well. I'm sure you can get www/lx working without having to do this. You may have to use a really dumbed down login script. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of Al > Kind > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 10:00 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: MochaPPP & WWW/LX > > > Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST) > > Hi All: > > I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the > ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your > config? > > aTdHvAaNnKcSe > > Cheers...AJKind > -- > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:17:44 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: To Harry Wellner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Harry, I have deleted your mail, so I don't know your email address. Please contact me privately. I have a surprise for you. ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:33:22 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LED light - orders please! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I forgot to say that it will take some time until the lights are ready! Probably several weeks. I have just begun to prepare the circuit boards, I have yet to order the LEDs. They are not easy to get, and I have to wait until Saturday next week to see how much I need. On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:16:52 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=HBF4ZT2XMWHVC Regarding this link, it is only relevant if you are not yet signed up with paypal. You can then use it to sign up. The link will automatically fill out the "Referral ID" of the person "who referred you" (i.e., my ID in this case). I will get five dollars then for each new member. I thought we could share this little gift, so if you make them give me 5 US$, you can pay me 2.50 $ less for the lights. Simply use that link above (it works - someone reported it to cause an error, but for me it seems to work fine) and then click on "Sign Up Now!". GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:54:17 -0800 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Repair&check-up In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What would you advise as a service:for missing lines, broken hinge, old keyboard, broken battery cover... And what would be the cost? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, On the Palrun issue. Space on the web site is not an issue. Confusing people with 4 programs, that is an issue. I am not aware of _any_ PAL8086 programs. Are there any? So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines? I think your question is good: How many people have a need to run Palrun on 8086 machine. If it is a significant number, perhaps it makes sense to make it. What is "a significant number"? I leave that to you to decide, you do the work. What I would do is actually leave Palrun as a 80186 program, targeted for 80186 and up. Then make a separate set with a slightly different name, maybe PALRUN86 or something. IOW leave the "classic" name to point to what it always did, including any changes to it. And the "new" product, or off-shoot, give it a new name. Docs in each should cross point. MiniPal should maybe follow same naming convention, what do you think? This will probably satisfy those in need, and tend to remove comnfusion. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:24 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Re: Anyone uses Lithium Batteries? Comments: To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Larry, > Pretty good deal! A lot better than what I WAS paying - I won't do = that again soon. Glad to help. See if you can find the other source too, Longden Loo posted both links, I think, or was it Bob? Good luck. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:29 -0500 Reply-To: avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: avi Subject: Re: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind of Panasonic 1000mAh,Ni-Cd? Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak = voltage can be > ignored. Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be able to put much into the battery. > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less. Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you right on the edge. Not so good! > The thing about > Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to > consistantly get a good charge. That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles, take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a clock or someother device. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:17:33 -0500 Reply-To: Avi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Avi Subject: Partitions Ýwas: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM¨ Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, Just wondering: The previous attempts to partition the A: drives on Palmtop seem to have all failed because the Palmtop regrded the drive a removable. > card has changed. I only had to change it to "card not changed" Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now? Thank you for the program! Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:23:17 -0500 Reply-To: Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Repair&check-up In-Reply-To: <20011127205417.68039.qmail@web11008.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Telephone: 641-472-6330 800-373-6114 Fax: 641-472-1879 Postal address: Thaddeus Computing, Inc 110 N Court Fairfield, Iowa 52556 USA http://www.palmtoppaper.com They have a flat rate for repairs and provide excellent work. I've been dealing with them for a few years now and found them to be among the best! Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:32:31 -0500 Reply-To: Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: Repair&check-up In-Reply-To: <20011127205417.68039.qmail@web11008.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out these folks. Postal address: Thaddeus Computing, Inc 110 N Court Fairfield, Iowa 52556 USA Telephone: 641-472-6330 800-373-6114 Fax: 641-472-1879 http://www.thaddeus.com/ http://www.palmtoppaper.com They have a flat rate for repairs and provide excellent work. I've been dealing with them for a few years now and found them to be among the best! Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting here since 1992 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:20:54 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---- Original Message ----- > So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines? FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun. The only problem I notice is that very large maps which run off the screen appear on the opposite side for some reason. By way of comparison, Flexpad will not run on that machine. 0.02 Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:32:49 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind of Panasonic1000mAh,Ni-Cd? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak voltage can be > > ignored. > > Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such > good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the > conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an > admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be > able to put much into the battery. Actually trying to set a maximum voltage to stop charging will under charge the batteries. Set the peak voltage to something the batteries will never reach like 3.3 volts. > > > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less. > > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you > right on the edge. Not so good! If a person keeps charging Ni-Cads before they are fully discharged he will ruin the batteries. Setting such a high voltage to recharge is just not very smart. If a person needs to charge sooner occaisionally he can simply go to setup in system manager and enable charging. > > > The thing about > > Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to > > consistantly get a good charge. > > That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful > to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles, > take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely > either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a > clock or someother device. This is wrong. This is what you do to revitalize NiMH and it doesn't work very well. A person doesn't have to do it even with NiMH if they properly discharge and recharge their batteries every cycle. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:12:27 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fluff: "Ciao" (was: Re: Delayed messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sponsor@ftel.net wrote: > I meant to ask you: What does "Caio" mean? Looks a little like the italian ciao, and even like the (US) western "yipee ai > ee caio" or some such, but I speculate... Just curious. Ciao - pronounced "chow". It's Italian. It's one of the words that can be used for both greeting and farewell. A similar sort of word is the Hawaiian "Aloha". Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:12:30 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Bacup problem Comments: To: Lillebjorn Nilsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote: > I do full backups of my HP200LX DS 8MB > c:\ drive using Filer's Bacup option to my SanDisk > 60MB flashdisk card. > > I mark "All > directories and files", "Modified files > only" and "Overwrite existing files". > > Now it stops and says: "Error Invalid > file or path name." > Any ideas? Do a "chkdsk /f" on the drive, you may have some corruption that is causing the backup copy process to fail. If that doesn't fix it then do "dir c:\*.* /s/b >a.a". This will create a file called "a.a" that will list all the non-hidden filenames. View that file looking for odd filenames. It is possible to create files with invalid filenames that other commands can't deal with. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:25:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Download HP200LX PDF Manual MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Robert, On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:46:35 -0700, "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > I had a request for the HP200LX PDF manual. It is 4MB and I > no longer have an account at mydocsonline since they are no > longer free. Does anyone know of a free web storage site for > upload? Or is there another location that I could recommend > a download of the manual? Send it to me at omnibook(AT)daniel-hertrich(DOT)de and I'll upload it on my home page. Hoe about legality issues? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:43:18 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Delayed messages Tony Hutchins writes: > or they post long after writing (and the client stores the > composition date - unusual AFAIK). I'm pretty sure the Palmtop News Reader (PNR) bases the Date: header on the time of composition. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:35:40 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Grider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Keith Grider Subject: Accton card on EBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get to bid over on it!!! bummed! KeithG ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:00:23 -0700 Reply-To: Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: New belt case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my 200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and model numbers would be helpful. Thanks. Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:33:25 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Grider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Keith Grider Subject: ethernet cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was reading that the Accton card 2216-1 was sold as a market brand through CompUsa-type places. Is there any further information on what, specifically these are? Any hints? I am looking for one and thought I had one until I was out bid. Thanks, Keith Grider ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 18:36:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Batson, Dale N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Batson, Dale N" Subject: Re: New belt case MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Richard, I recommend Ripoffs Model CO-29 for the 200LX. It fits the palmtop well, but the stitching around the clip could be better. www.holster-depot.com/shoppro/electronics1.html Dale Batson -----Original Message----- From: Richard and Patti Smith Ýmailto:seronac@FREEPORT.COM¨ Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:00 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: New belt case Hello all; I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my 200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and model numbers would be helpful. Thanks. Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:57:06 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: email and tcpip Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Senior moment! We are all here to help those in senior monets I like both senior Monets and well as early Monets! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:57:19 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ANN: MODEM V2.0 Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > There's a program at www.danlan.com. He charges $15 FOR IT. nOT SURE > HOW IT WORKS ON OTHER WINDOWS BUT IT WORKS ON MY WIN98se BOX. It makes > the MS IP stack appear to be a packet driver in a dos window. All the > LX apps that use packet driver should work with it (www/lx, post/lx, > WatTCP stuff, etc.). I think I visited the site the last time you posted but (my senior moment or more likely HOUR) I could not quite fathom what programs I would need and had not the least idea about how to set it up! I've Win98, too. But then I don't know much about networking or dun-ing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:20:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Domingo On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:20:54 -0500, Domingo wrote: > FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun. The > only problem I notice is that very large maps which run off the screen > appear on the opposite side for some reason. > By way of comparison, Flexpad will not run on that machine. > I have also seen that behaviour of MM/LX under Palrun. Not on a NEC V30, but on a Pentium 166 ;-) Avi, Stefan, is this an issue of Palrun, or of MM/LX? GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:04:37 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: OT: Paypal questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, sorry for this off-topic, but I have to ask the experts. ;-) I have a "Personal account" at Paypal. Now that I'm selling the LED lights it's the first time for me to receive money there. Well, I have received two payments yesterday: One without any problem. I have the money now on my Paypal account. The other one resulted in a message from Paypal which you see excertps from below. They want me to upgrade to a Premium account, which I have to pay fees for when receiving money. So why should I do this? They say, the person has done a credit card payment, and I can only accept this with the premium account. But aren't all payments via paypal credit card payments? What may be the difference between this first payment and the second one? The Paypal website couldn't enlighten me. So, LED light buyers, pease don't pay yet, I have to make this clear first. But note that signing up and _paying_ is always free, regardless how you do it! Thanks daniel --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:28:30 -0800 From: service@paypal.com To: daniel.hertrich@gmx.de Subject: Upgrade your account to accept the credit card payments You have received a credit card payment. However, to reduce credit card processing costs for accounts that do not pay fees, the ability to receive credit card payments is limited to Premier and Business accounts. If you upgrade to a Premier account, all your pending credit card payments will immediately be completed. With your upgraded account you will receive a range of premium features in addition to the ability to accept unlimited credit card payments. And the fees on incoming payments are low -- just 2.9% + $0.30 to receive payments. For more details, go to http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/fees-outside.) If you would like to keep your Personal account, you may login and deny this payment. Personal asccounts may still accept payments funded with a bank account or PayPal balance at no charge. To learn more about PayPal's Credit Card Receiving Policy, please go to https://www.paypal.com/udp/id=LJeMokWOtO1eIdbBatMzpz8MvpX-LYXLQHSMdA. Thank you for using PayPal! --- end of forwarded message --- -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:17:56 +1300 Reply-To: Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: OT: Paypal questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:52:04 +1300 (NZDT) 03h47m27s ago ... On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:04:37 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > But aren't all payments via paypal credit card payments? Only if the sender has zero money in their paypal account when they send. If I have $100 in my paypal account and send $50 then it is "funded by" my paypal account. If I sent $200 then $100 comes from my paypal account and the other $100 from elsewhere - this "elsewhere" can be either a credit card or a bank account. But I think only US "paypals" can use a bank account in this way. > What may be the difference between this first payment and > the second one? The Paypal website couldn't enlighten me. Maybe the first came from a "paypal-wealthy" person They already had sufficient funds in the paypal system. The second came from a pauper with no paypal dollars, just a credit card - and paypal now demands their 2.9% + $0.30 the first time any credit card transaction gets into their system. They never charge the sender - only the receiver. Their "system" can only do this for premiere accounts - I think it must be fairly new that they have this requirement. I could be wrong of course. Maybe upgrade to Premiere so you can accept credit card payments but tell folk paying by credit card to send (X + .3) / .971 For example instead of $35 this comes to $36.36 ( about 4% extra) For $70 it comes to $72.40, an extra 3.4%. Oh no that's no good because it seems like it is not free to send. But as you say, if the credit card option increases the sale volume then it's good for the venture. Just my 2c ciao, Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:23:41 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fluff: ASCII Ribbon Campaign MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign > \ / > X No HTML in > / \ email & news > Interesting campaign I saw in a tag line on rec.guns. I think it should apply in email lists too. (hint hint) Cheers... Russ :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:29:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: 200LX 3MB on ebay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I'm cleaning out stuff which I don't need anymore to prepare myself for the arrival of a cute 32MB DS machine! 8-) So I sell my rarely used 200LX 3MB Single speed backup palmtop on ebay, auction number 1303394605. Shipping to Europe only. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:08:28 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote: > I am not aware of _any_ PAL8086 programs. Are there any? I don't think so. > So what remains is this: Will Palrun run on 8086 machines? no > I think your question is good: How many people have a need to > run Palrun on 8086 machine. If it is a significant number, > perhaps it makes sense to make it. What is "a significant > number"? I leave that to you to decide, you do the work. until today nobody from the list said, yes, I use Palrun on a 8086 processor. So I compiled for >=3D80186. Let's see what happens. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:08:30 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Domingo wrote: > FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun. = The do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA and POPA opcodes)? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:08:30 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Partitions Ýwas: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote: > Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive > is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now? very good idea. I don't know, if this side effect exists and I don't want to experiment with my single 96mb card. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:52:21 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LED light - PLEASE READ THIS! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry, folks, I have to modify my offer: I now know that I definitely won't make more than 16 LED lights. 8 of them are already ordered. So if you are interested, don't wait until Saturday next week, but please order as soon as possible, after I have the order for the 16th light, I will stop to accept orders. I think the lights will be ready to ship in about 3-4 weeks. Regarding payment via Paypal: It seems that if you pay using your "virtual money" on you paypal account or via direct bank debit by paypal, I won't have any problem. I only had to upgrade my Paypal account to a non-free one, if you try to pay via credit card. So, please, if possible in any way, please use bank debit and not your credit card. If you have to use your credit card for whatever reason, I'll upgrade my account. But I will do that AFTER I have received all other non-credit-card payments, because I will be charged ~3% for each payment once the account is upgraded. So if you want to order a LED light, please tell me how you plan to pay - but don't do so yet! I'll ask you to pay when it's time for that! I hope everything is clear now, if not, please ask! ;-) Thanks daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:37:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Accton card on EBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Keith, I was one of those who outbid you, but I got outbid myself. There have been a few EN2216's up recently, though, so more should pop up. I might have a line on a few. If it works out, I'll let you know in a week or so. Cheers, Bob Feldman (a.k.a. InkaDinka100) -----Original Message----- From: Keith Grider Ýmailto:k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET¨ Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:36 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Accton card on EBAY ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get to bid over on it!!! bummed! KeithG ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:10:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? TIA, Bob Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:47:46 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Grider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Keith Grider Subject: Re: Accton card on EBAY Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert, Thanks for the response. I recently got DSL at home and at work and want to move teh hp to a hews/email machine for some stuff. The ethernet would be very helpful. Let me know if you learn anything on a line. I could've 'bought it' for 26.95, but got greedy. I did not realize that there were more out there that wanted one as well. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Accton card on EBAY > Hi Keith, > > I was one of those who outbid you, but I got outbid myself. There have been > a few EN2216's up recently, though, so more should pop up. I might have a > line on a few. If it works out, I'll let you know in a week or so. > > Cheers, > Bob Feldman > (a.k.a. InkaDinka100) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Grider Ýmailto:k.grider@EARTHLINK.NET¨ > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 5:36 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: Accton card on EBAY > > > ok, fess up, who outbid me on the latest Accton card on EBAY? I was away > from my terminal and lost track of time (it WAS work...) and I did not get > to bid over on it!!! bummed! > > KeithG > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:51:23 -0500 Reply-To: Keith Grider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Keith Grider Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, Hi again. I have been using 1500 mAhr NiMH in my palmtop for teh past 2+ years with no problems. Just make sure that you use on of the charging programs (I use Charg-it) and hammer them with full power for a12hrs or so before it goes to trickle. Keith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feldman, Robert" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:10 AM Subject: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX > The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have > mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings > for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and > NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to > charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? > > TIA, > Bob Feldman > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:03:31 +0100 Reply-To: Michael Lennartz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Lennartz Subject: Re: OT: Paypal questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hallo Daniel, I took a look at PayPal and found the following point: * Receive money for FREE (non-credit card payments only) That means, that you can send money for free, but you can't get money for free, if the sender uses a credit card. The sender should have a paypal account with money (like Tony wrote). So I think. Who stands behind PayPal? Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ----- Original Message ----- Hi friends, sorry for this off-topic, but I have to ask the experts. ;-) I have a "Personal account" at Paypal. ... ... -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Mit freundlichem Gru=DF / Regards / Saluton Michael Lennartz lennartz-mi@gmx.net Fax: +49 89 244 34 52 57 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:03:22 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Pretec CF cards ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I will get a digital camera in a few days, I plan to change my 64Mb Compact Flash card to a bigger capacity (128 Mb, I think). I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think to buy the camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed and battery usage for these cards on the palmtop. Do anyone use them ? Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:26:12 -0800 Reply-To: James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Re: New belt case Comments: cc: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case. Here's a tip for that case: Place some rolled-up gauze or fabric in the bottom of the case so that it occupies the bottom 1/2-3/4" of the case. Then, the palmtop will stick out just a little bit at the top, making it much easier to pull out. The top flap will still close just fine. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:58:55 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: New belt case Comments: To: grenert@YAHOO.COM In-Reply-To: <20011128152612.30311.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> from "James Grenert" at Nov 28, 2001 07:26:12 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case. I tried one of these a few years back, and couldn't stand the noise made by the velcro upon opening. It was most conspicuous in a room of people if I whipped, er, ripped, out my palmtop. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:16:44 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have Glad you enjoyed it. > mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings > for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and Pretty much the same but you will have a longer charge time because NiMH are much higher capacity. > NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to The main differance is the fast charge termination when using a 1C charge. NiMH have a much smaller dV drop and if you use a ni-cd charger you will probably over charge NiMH. But at the 200LX trickle charge? No. > charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? > > TIA, > Bob Feldman > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:35:58 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Belgian Users Group Meeting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our next meeting is planned for Saturday, Dec 1, 14.00 in Brussels. If any readers of the list happen to be around, you are welcome Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:41:05 -0500 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" > > FWIW, I am running MMLX on a Poqet Plus (NEC V30 CPU) with Palrun. The > do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA > and POPA opcodes)? From a web search, it is Intel i8086 CPU pin compatible. This is as opposed to the V20, which is Intel i8088 CPU pin compatible. Most of the other 'pocket' machines are 8086 compatible. What's so unique about the Poqet Plus is that it has a backlight. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:50:24 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: How to set ABC/LX to charge this kind of Panasonic1000mAh,Ni-Cd? Comments: To: "jmusiele@MNINTER.NET" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi John, > > > 16 hours charge time, 4 to 6 hours stall time probably 5, the peak > > > voltage can be ignored. > > > > Don't ignore that, and instead put 2.95V. This is not such > > good advice. ABC/LX will stop charging when one of the > > conditions is reached. If you set the peak voltage to an > > admittedly unreasonable - but possible 2.35V - you will not be > > able to put much into the battery. > > Actually trying to set a maximum voltage to stop charging will under > charge the batteries. Set the peak voltage to something the batteries > will never reach like 3.3 volts. Good! I am glad we agree that the peak voltage should not be ignored. Many NiMH batteries cannot even reach 2.95V so we a= gree even more. I am not sure ABC/LX can take 3.3V setting anyway... > > > Start charging at 2.32 volts or less. > > > > Not good. Start charging at 2.50V, because it leaves you with > > some buffer time in case you need to yank the Palmtop to go > > somewhere and use it for an hour. Starting at 2.32V leaves you > > right on the edge. Not so good! > > If a person keeps charging Ni-Cads before they are fully discharged > he will ruin the batteries. I am sure this is NOT the case. Perhaps this may have been true for the older NiCd batteries and even those they changed = the technology quite a bit so there is less crystallization. > Setting such a high voltage to recharge is just not very smart. If a > person needs to charge sooner occaisionally he can simply go to setup in > system manager and enable charging. Except that you ignore the reason why! Doing it like I suggest keeps you ALWAYS with some backup power in the batteries, = so if you suddenly need to rush out before the batteries are fully charged you have some backup. Using your method, once = I am done, I cannot use the machine until I built up SOME power in the batteries. > > > The thing about > > > Ni-Cads is they really need to be fully discharged before recharging to > > > consistantly get a good charge. > > > > That is true only every now and then, not effective or useful > > to do EACH recharge cycle. In any case, once every 10 cycles, > > take your NiCd out of the palmtop and discharge it completely > > either in a professional device, or just put it to work in a > > clock or someother device. > > This is wrong. This is what you do to revitalize NiMH and it doesn't > work very well. A person doesn't have to do it even with NiMH if they > properly discharge and recharge their batteries every cycle. IOW what you said above about discharging them to low levels is not necessary either. I agree with that assertion You an I obviously read different technical manuals about batteries and certainly different materials about their chemist= ry and technology of packing the materials for the exchanges that occur within batteries. Still, I have no intention to t= urn this into a religious war. I think it is the dumbest thing to do. over a 100 cycle life or 300 cycle life of recharge= ables your cost is measured in pennies per recharge cycles. This is so small and negligible that spending much more time = than we hve so far on this issue is pure silliness. So, Thanks for the posts., and forgive me if I no longer respond in t= he thread - let me go take another nice picture of Minnesota Snow - it is a much better to spend the time Take care, = my friend. Avi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:32:19 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Pretec CF cards ? Comments: To: Jacques Belin In-Reply-To: <20011128155738.322A.JBELIN@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a 40MB Pretec card once and boy did suck. The damned thing was really slow and after about a year it totally quit on me. I would not recommend anything with the Pretec name on it. Don't fool around. Get a Sandisk card. It'll be worth the extra dollars to know you're getting good product. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On > Behalf Of > Jacques Belin > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:03 AM > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Subject: Pretec CF cards ? > > > As I will get a digital camera in a few days, I plan to > change my 64Mb > Compact Flash card to a bigger capacity (128 Mb, I think). > > I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think > to buy the > camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed > and battery > usage for these cards on the palmtop. > > Do anyone use them ? > > > Jacques. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:15:58 -0800 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Need Assign Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="28502202-POCO-25223645" This is a multipart message in MIME format --28502202-POCO-25223645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Had a couple of systems go south so I'm getting on with a Toshiba= Portege 7010 for the time being. Problem is I really miss using= Goin' Postal for my email. The Portege has a built in modem at Com2 but= GP won't recognize it since it's under the control of Win98. If I= put a PCMCIA modem card in it is recognized as Com3. Anyone have the= DOS Assign program that will work under Win98 so I can Assign= Com3:=3DCom2: and perhaps get back to using GP? Thanks. Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com --28502202-POCO-25223645 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable

Had a couple of systems go south so I'm getting on with a= Toshiba Portege 7010 for the time being. Problem is I really= miss using Goin' Postal for my email. The Portege has a built in= modem at Com2 but GP won't recognize it since it's under the= control of Win98. If I put a PCMCIA modem card in it is= recognized as Com3. Anyone have the DOS Assign program that will= work under Win98 so I can Assign Com3:=3DCom2: and perhaps get= back to using GP? Thanks.

Bob Christopher     Littleton, Colorado USA  =   bob@palmtop.com

--28502202-POCO-25223645-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:06:19 -0500 Reply-To: sponsor@ftel.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "sponsor@ftel.net" Subject: Re: Partitions Ýwas: Re: ANN: NODELAY.COM¨ Comments: To: "Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE" Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" << > Now it seems maybe you have made the Palmtop think the drive > is fixed. Maybe it would be willing to partition A: drive now? very good idea. I don't know, if this side effect exists and I don't want to experiment with my single 96mb card. >> All I can say is "Very good idea!" referring of course to NOT experimenting with the only 96MB PC card you have If I wanted to try, what do I do? What is the worst outcome? How likely is that outcome? What software do you suggest to = use to do the partition itself? How? I mean run the partition s/w on the Palmtop? On another machine? (I am limited now s= everely because I am not at home and do not have access to my usual arsenal of software and hardware.) It would be very exciting to break down this long-standing limitation for Palmtoppers. All the best! Avi -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:57:11 -0500 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: New belt case MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have a Targus Model CH100 belt-clip carrying case for my > 200LX, but it's getting worn out and I think it's time to > replace it. It appears that Targus no longer makes this case. > Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas? Manufacturers and > model numbers would be helpful. Thanks. > Take a look at Case Tech ( http://www.dxshop.com/_shop/home.mhtml?shop=casetech ) They make three or four leather belt cases for the 95/100/200LX, in soft "executive" leather or rugged cowhide. I believe the most expensive is CAN$60 (about USD$40). You can also add on wrist or shoulder straps, if you like. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:08:41 -0800 Reply-To: James Grenert Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Grenert Subject: Re: New belt case Comments: To: Chris Lott In-Reply-To: <200111281558.fASFwtWA017773@mail.hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Chris Lott wrote: > I tried one of these a few years back, and couldn't stand the noise > made by the velcro upon opening. It was most conspicuous in a room > of people if I whipped, er, ripped, out my palmtop. > I know what you mean. Usually, I tuck the cover flap inside the case; the palmtop will still fit. Unless it totally flies off your belt or you do a headstand, the palmtop should probably stay put even without the flap attached. Cheers. J. P. Grenert grenert@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:59:16 +0100 Reply-To: Frank LOUWERS Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank LOUWERS Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Robert, I use the 1350 mAh (or so, speaking from failing memory) NiMH from Mac for more than 2 years. I use ABC/LX to charge them. Mac recommended me the following settings: Start charging at or below 2.40V Stop fast charging at 2.97V or if voltage stalls for more than 5 hrs or after 16 hrs Then trickle charge for 6 hrs I am still on the same set, charge about 2 or 3 times a week, and many times (50% ?) I force the charging cycle without waiting for the voltage to drop below 2.40V and most of the times the complete charging cycle is not finished, and half of the times the cycle would be just in the trickle part . e.g. if I foresee a heavy use day, and voltage would be at say 2.50, I plug in the night before and unplug in the morning, where it might be in the trickle part or not yet. I never take them out of the 200LX to fully discharge. This does not seem to have afected the capacity of the NiMH at all. So I think it is not that critical. (I have a different experience with the Li-Ion cell of my mobile phones, they seem to get worse after about a year). Best regards, ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)... On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:10:27 -0700, Feldman, Robert wrote: >The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people have >mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the settings >for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads and >NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to >charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? > >TIA, >Bob Feldman > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:19:01 -0800 Reply-To: Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph Buford Subject: Sandisk 160MB CF Type II & 220MB ATA PC Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a Sandisk 160MB CF Type II card that does not work in my NEXII MP3 Player. I also does not work in the 200lx until the acecard3 driver is loaded. Has anyone else had this problem or can quantify the differences between the Sandisk 160MB CF Type II and the Sandisk 160MB CF Type I? Also, the 220MB ATA card that I got from Silicon Salvage 2 weeks ago had a very bad failure over the Thanksgiving weekend. I use a .bat file to backup my critical files(appt.adb, Notes.ndb, Phone.pdb, etc. I went to run it and got several "Path not found" errors. It seemed to occur on the first set of copy functions after the file was dbchecked. I separated out the first dbchecked file and ran it alone, after it aborted with a "Path not found" error, I found bogus Large files on my A: drive (220mb Sandisk). I used Norton to try to recover , but 2 complete directories were damaged beyond repair. They were not even directories that I was using. I continued to try this bat file and found that occasionally it would work, but most of the time it would seem to mess up the FAT. Going to filer after the bat file ran and got a "Path not found" error, I would find bogus files and missing directories. Norton would say there were NO errors and going to Filer after I used Norton showed the directories and files as fine. The I just tried to read the A:drive after the I got a "Path not found" error, and the directory remained bad until I powered down for a moment. When I powered back up, it went through it's read cycle and the disk looked fine. This type of behavior occurred both with and without the acecard3 driver loaded. Any suggestions? Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:37:57 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Sandisk 160MB CF Type II & 220MB ATA PC Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have a Sandisk 160MB CF Type II card that does not work in my NEXII MP3 > Player. I also does not work in the 200lx until the acecard3 driver is > loaded. Has anyone else had this problem or can quantify the differences Have a Sandisk CF 160 meg type II. Works fine in both my LXs without any drivers. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Circuit emulator for the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anyone know if such a program has been written for the 200LX or know of a dos based one that would run on the LX? Anyone have a dos version of Pspice 3 for sale? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:04:19 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Folding Keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony, > I use have the Newton Keyboard (from Thaddeus?) but it locks up occasion= ally > so I stopped using it. What driver are you using? I got mine from Thaddeus a long time ago and am using the driver that = they provided with it. I don't ever recall having it lock up on me - = although I usually don't bother to pull it out of the desk drawer unless = I am working on something large. I have a 8mb DS 200lx and I don't use = either buddy or carousel. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:04:21 +0000 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Folding Keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris, > I've purchased one, and nearly hooked it up successfully, with a little = help from Mack at Times2Tech. But work projects have kept me too busy to = complete it.< Sounds good! Keep us posted. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:28:27 -0800 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Sandisk 160MB CF Type II & 220MB ATA PC Card In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Also, the 220MB ATA card that I got from Silicon Salvage 2 weeks ago > had a very bad failure over the Thanksgiving weekend. I use a .bat > file to backup my critical files(appt.adb, Notes.ndb, Phone.pdb, etc. > I went to run it and got several "Path not found" errors. It seemed to > occur on the first set of copy functions after the file was dbchecked. .... > Any suggestions? Run scandisk on the card from a notebook computer and do a full surface scan, in addition to the normal file/directory scan, to make sure it's OK to start with. Maybe the card is intermittently drawing too much power? I have the same card from Silicon Salvage and use it without the driver .. so far without problems. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 11:11:33 +0100 Reply-To: Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: NODELAY.COM makes your palmtop radioactive... 8-) Comments: cc: etomcat@2f.hu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >Don't put NODELAY in your AUTOEXEC.BAT! If you forgot to unload >... >It's a very dangerous utility comparable to atomic power plants: You >feel safe as long as nothing happens. But if something happens, the >damage is so tremendous, that you wish, the technology should have >been never invented. The germans again! They are closing all their nuclear reactors, because of environmental concerns. They are going to purchase electricity from the french. France produces more than 60% of its electricity by nuclear powerplants. Figure that! As a hungarian, whose nationals had significant role in the invention of nuclear science, I feel proud of this achievement of mankind. Nuclear powerplants are still much better than littering the seas with oil and gas mining platforms, which often capsize, collapse and go ablaze. Not to mention the supertankers which frequently come in too close contact with banks, cliffs and other dangerous objects commonly found on seashores, then leak. Somehow seals are never asked about their preference of oil or atom. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:33:11 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Need Assign MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob Christopher wrote: > The Portege has a built in modem at Com2 but GP > won't recognize it since it's under the control of Win98. If I put a > PCMCIA modem card in it is recognized as Com3. Anyone have the DOS > Assign program that will work under Win98 so I can Assign Com3:=3DCom2: > and perhaps get back to using GP? Thanks. Sounds like a candidate for my new MODEM.COM Go to a DOS box and run MODEM. It tells you, at which comport a modem is assigned under which base address. In your case, most likely no modem is found. Then run MODEM/i to initialize all comports with the default addresses. Now run MODEM again without switches and see, if any modem is detected. Hopefully your built in COM2 modem should appear. If yes, you may now use it for GP. If this works for you, you have to do it every time you open a DOS box, because WinXX removes the comport settings from the bios data area, everytime you leave DOS. Make a batch file and just put in MODEM/i. http://peichl.hplx.net/modem.zip I had a similar problem on my Portege 300 and solved it this way. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:33:14 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I have also seen that behaviour of MM/LX under Palrun. > Not on a NEC V30, but on a Pentium 166 ;-) > > Avi, Stefan, is this an issue of Palrun, or of MM/LX? It was Palrun. Thanks to Michel Bel for informing me about the V30, which indeed supports PUSHA and POPA. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:42:59 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Circuit emulator for the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi John, On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:56 -0600, John Musielewicz wrote: > Does anyone know if such a program has been written for the 200LX or > know of a dos based one that would run on the LX? Anyone have a dos > version of Pspice 3 for sale? Since you refer to PSpice, I assume you mean a circuit simulator, rather than an emulator. (As I understand, there is a big difference). Such a program really exist, I own a license and am very satisfied with it. Palmtop Circuit: See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/paci Tamas Feher, who is asl oa list member, can probably help you if you decide to buy this product. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:36:24 -0500 Reply-To: "b. xu" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "b. xu" Subject: about mm/lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. for this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in mm.cfg? Thanks. Bing ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:04:10 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Pretec CF cards ? Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've a Pretec 20 MB card that I've had for a couple years. Works OK but seems to use more batteries than when I keep a 20 MB Sandisk in the 200. Also, I had lots of problems with it when I inserted it into my laptop. The Sandisk cards I have never give me a bit of problem. I'd gladly pay a little more for the Sandisk! bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Belin" Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:03 AM Subject: Pretec CF cards ? > I seen Pretec cards at good price in the shop where I think to buy the > camera, but I would know to have some returns about speed and battery > usage for these cards on the palmtop. > > Do anyone use them ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:05:24 +0100 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: MochaPPP & WWW/LX Comments: To: Al Kind MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I use this every day. Its easy and nice to use to share Your LAN with Your hp200lx via the serial port. Part of my www.cfg looks like this: ... ÝSetup¨ PPP=PPP ... ÝScript¨ PPP=PPP ... ÝPPP¨ s=\r Port=1 OmniGo=0 PPP=1 Modem=0 Baud=38400 My_IP= DNS_IP= DNS2_IP= Script=PPP Password= Al Kind wrote: > Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:58:54 -0500 (EST) > > Hi All: > > I thought I'd play with MochaPPP & my LX as an alternative to the > ACCTON NIC. Does anyone have this setup? Would you share your > config? > > aTdHvAaNnKcSe > > Cheers...AJKind > -- > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:13:07 -0000 Reply-To: chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: Assembler for 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:16:41 -0600 > From: Barry > Subject: Re: Assembler for 200lx > But this is the first time I've heard someone say an assembler > won't run on a platform because the IDE doesn't run. I feel the > real world shifting and sliding away beneath my feet. :) You've just reminded me of my neighbour who said how remarkable it was that the proprietary e-mail system he used at work had exactly the same "To", "CC", "BCC", etc. sections...(wait for it)...just like Microsoft invented! --=20 Chris Randle ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:01 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people = have > mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the = settings > for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both = NiCads and > NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to > charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? I charge NiMH batteries in my 200LX all the time. I haven't removed this = set of batteries in many months. In fact, I just had to flip my palmtop over = and look to remember what kind they are . They are Radio Shack 1600 mAh. = In the past, I have used various charge controlling programs. Now, however, I = have a simple approach. I believe that even the palmtop's "fast charge" amounts = to a trickle charge for batteries of this capacity. So, I have my palmtop = always set to charge the batteries. I plug it in most nights and they get = charged all night. Mack's DS drive can disable the palmtop's switch from fast to = slow charge after six hours. So, my batteries get a fast charge for as long = as I have them plugged in. Now, on to reasons NOT to charge in the palmtop. Charging generates = heat. Heat can shorten the life of electronics. So, I am risking a shorter = life for my palmtop and batteries with my system. For me, the simplicity and = convience are enough to outweigh this risk, but others may well decide differently. Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:19:58 +0100 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Pretec CF cards ? In-Reply-To: <001701c178e7$1a9a1a90$ae2d010a@penickrh40w> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:04:10 -0500 Bob Penick a =E9crit: > I've a Pretec 20 MB card that I've had for a couple years=2E Works OK but > seems to use more batteries than when I keep a 20 MB Sandisk in the 200=2E Thanks Bob (and Ed)=2E Seems that I will search for another card=2E=2E=2E I will check the current prices for the Sandisk cards=2E=2E=2E BTW, it would be intersting to mak a list of all known CF cards, with an indication about their consumption and their speed=2E=2E=2E My entry : The 64Mb Samsung card=2E Good speed, but I have less than 15h of autonomy on my 1Mb DS 200LX, instead of 35h with my 8Mb Sandisk card=2E= =2E=2E Jacques=2E ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:17:00 -0500 Reply-To: Nicholas Argyros Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nicholas Argyros Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX Comments: To: Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable AFAIK the external battery chargers are different. Last night I found a = new product at Sam's Club: a brand-name charger with a switch for NiCad = or NiMH, plus 8 NiMH high capacity batteries. Priced right at $20. >>> "Feldman, Robert" 11/28/01 09:10AM >>> The recent thread on charging NiCads has been interesting. Some people = have mentioned that they charge NiMH cells in the palmtop. What are the = settings for them? Also, I know that the same charger can be used for both NiCads = and NiMH, but aren't there some differences? Are there any reasons _NOT_ to charge NiMH cells in the 200LX? TIA, Bob Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:01:24 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: WordPerfect 5.1 - Speller MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am using WordPerfect 5.1 on my hp200lx and unfortunately the language modules for Italy are missing. These are the files: WP{WP}IT.LEX WP{WP}IT.SUP WP{WP}IT.HYD I call Corel, the language modules are no longer available. Could any one help out. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:01:30 +0100 Reply-To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Helmuth E. Guenther" Subject: Re: about mm/lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How much memeory did you assign to mm/lx? Kind regards Helmuth > I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and > powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I > have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is > PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other > application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. = for > this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in > mm.cfg? > Thanks. > Bing > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:35:23 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: LED light project II MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, a short update about the LED light project II: First the bad news: The LEDs I have used for LED light project 1 some time ago are not available anymore. :-( Now the good news: The company which made them has improved them and now sells for the same price LEDs with over 20% more light intensity! I have just bought them and tried one pair of them out: Amazing! :-) They are really brighter than the ones which I used before. Another good news: I have already all parts necessary to build the lights. I have expected to get them not before 15th December. So I will probably be able to ship in two weeks. Maybe three. And one more good news: There are still some lights available. So you can still place your orders. So much for now daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:17:55 -0500 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: PalRun suggestion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stefan Peichl wrote: > do you know if V30 is 80186 compatible (i.e. supports PUSHA > and POPA opcodes)? Yes, the V20/V30 are 80188/80186 compatible. They also have some NEC specific instructions, and can support 8080 opcodes. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:32:37 -0500 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: PC-Card dubble sized Comments: To: Harry Wellner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Wellner" Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 7:42 AM Subject: PC-Card dubble sized > Hi list, > > I want to do some experiments with a Compac GSM Radio PC > Card. I was able to obtain this card as second hand. This > dubble sized PC Card is able to cummunicate under DOS. > However, the HP200LX slot is too small. > Harry, There is a product available called "Doubleslot" that fits in the 200LX slot and gives you two type 2 slots or one type 3. It also supplies the power to the cards by an external ac adapter so the LX limit is no longer an issue. I seem to recall that it retails for about $100 or so. I have one that I used to copy files from one card to another. Wish you luck! bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 06:06:42 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Steve On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:01 -0500, Steve Carder wrote: > night. Mack's DS drive can disable the palmtop's switch from fast to slow > charge after six hours. So, my batteries get a fast charge for as long as I > have them plugged in. What is the parameter for the driver to disable this switch? Is there a recent overview of parameters for thsi driver? It seems to be pretty powerful ;-) GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:02:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Morse Code Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to kill two birds with one stone. 1. Bone up on Morse code while driving 2. Listen to text files in code while driving So, what I am looking for is a Morse code program for the LX that will play back text files. Niceties are at least 1. Easily to use/read the program on the LX 2. Adjust speed on the fly 3. Easy to load & repeat text file 4. Reasonable small I have looked at about a dozen or so programs in the past. One command line program I've found is "morse" from GHZ Engineering, but it only goes to 25 wpm. Do any of you hams have a favorite code text reader/practice program for the LX? Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:09:53 +0100 Reply-To: Frank LOUWERS Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank LOUWERS Subject: Re: New belt case Comments: To: James Grenert In-Reply-To: <20011128152612.30311.qmail@web11608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:26:12 -0800, James Grenert wrote: >I second the recommendation for the Ripoffs case. Yes I agree fully, very handy (and sturdy) case. I am now 2 years or so on my second one and still have the first one which served me well for I think at least 4 or 5 years. The Velcro loops got a bit fluffy, that was the only real wear. >Here's a tip for that case: Place some rolled-up gauze or fabric in the bottom >of the case so that it occupies the bottom 1/2-3/4" of the case. Then, the >palmtop will stick out just a little bit at the top, making it much easier to >pull out. The top flap will still close just fine. > Excellent tip. When the case is new, it _is_ a bit more difficult to grasp the top of the machine to extract it from its case. This tip solves that, but I put a 2 spare batteries (wrapped) in there when I was still using non rechargeable batteries. When I switched to rechargeables I stopped that: the case had given a bit and grasping was easier. Best regards, ...Frank LOUWERS (Belgium)... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:55:37 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: To Harry Wellner!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Heeellloooo!? Harry, are you out there? maybe you missed my previous message, so I'll send another one: I have a Siemens data cable for you! Please contact me privately. I have lost your email address, so I have to mail you via the list. GTX daniel -- http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/contact ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:09:24 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Sandisk 160MB CF Type II & 220MB ATA PC Card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I used Norton showed the directories and files as fine. The I just = tried to > read the A:drive after the I got a "Path not found" error, and the > directory remained bad until I powered down for a moment. When I = powered > back up, it went through it's read cycle and the disk looked fine. This > type of behavior occurred both with and without the acecard3 driver = loaded. Is this the only card you use, or are you swaping cards? Do you use = Software Carousel version 6.x? On my palmtop, the following can happen. Lets say = I reboot with Flash Card A in the slot. I then start up all three of my SC sessions. Now I swap to SC session 2 and switch to Flash Card 2. If I switch back to SC session 1 and try to read or write to Card 2, I will = get errors. The DOS loaded in session 1 doesn't know I have swaped cards and thinks it is still looking at Card 1. If I turn the palmtop off and back = on, DOS in session 1 will re-read the card and realize it is now card 2. Now = I will be able to use card 2 properly. Perhaps this is happening to you? Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:26:54 -0500 Reply-To: Lars Hedstroem Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lars Hedstroem Subject: Serie-cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for one in US for 100 dollars! Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took 25 dollars. Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get? Lars ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:09:48 -0500 Reply-To: Bing Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bing Subject: Re: about mm/lx Comments: To: "Helmuth E. Guenther" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII less than 300k, I think. Bing On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Helmuth E. Guenther wrote: > How much memeory did you assign to mm/lx? > > Kind regards > > Helmuth > > > I downloaded and installed mm/lx, it is really a good software and > > powerful. But it seems unable to start from application manager, and I > > have to terminate all applications to run it. The worse, its editor is > > PE/lx designated in mm.cfg. In fact, pe/lx is unable to run with other > > application. Needless to say, I can't open the editor. Can I do sth. for > > this? Or I want to change the editor to MEMO, how to designate MEMO in > > mm.cfg? > > Thanks. > > Bing > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:28:53 -0600 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Microsoft invented everything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Randle wrote: > You've just reminded me of my neighbour who said > how remarkable it was that the proprietary e-mail > system he used at work had exactly the same > "To", "CC", "BCC", etc. sections...(wait for it)...just > like Microsoft invented! You have a smart neighbor. None of my neighbors would have made the connection. I guess everybody feels free to copy Microsoft. Look at Xerox calling their machine a "copy" machine, just like that command in Dos. I'm sure the phrase "without form and void" was borrowed from the look and feel of Windows. Barry (who knows the hot rock caused the sun to rise) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:26:22 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Serie-cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi > > HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for > one in US for 100 dollars! > > Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took > 25 dollars. > > Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get? > > Lars The cable is fairly easy to build, if you are handy, both Digi-Key and Mouser sell the 2mm female end along with pins. Mouser has no minimum order. www.mouser.com or www.digikey.com. One thing I am having trouble finding is the screws. Anyone know of a source? I think the battery cover and the backup battery cover will be impossible to find. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:38:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Serie-cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in short supply." I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a 200LX. I was thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with someone. Anyone interested? It would be $12 (perhaps plus some shipping) for 1 battery door, 1 backup battery tray, 4 rubber feet, 2 hinge caps, 1 IR cover, 1 name plate, and 2 torx screws. Email me off-list. Bob -----Original Message----- From: John Musielewicz Ýmailto:jmusiele@MNINTER.NET¨ Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:26 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Serie-cable > Hi > > HP Sweden had no seriecable to the LX, they wanted to send for > one in US for 100 dollars! > > Luckily I found one at a private dealer of HP things. He took > 25 dollars. > > Seems like spareparts soon will be hard to get? > > Lars The cable is fairly easy to build, if you are handy, both Digi-Key and Mouser sell the 2mm female end along with pins. Mouser has no minimum order. www.mouser.com or www.digikey.com. One thing I am having trouble finding is the screws. Anyone know of a source? I think the battery cover and the backup battery cover will be impossible to find. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:11:20 -0600 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: ACT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Everyone I just recently obtained a copy of ACT. I had never heard of it before and am wondering who wrote it and how to use it. It looks like a contact manager, is that what it is? Are there other contact managers written for the LX? Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:23:07 -0600 Reply-To: Tom Salwasser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Serie-cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need the whole kit. Can you help me with a part number, 800 number and/ or web link? Thanks very much. Regards, Tom Salwasser > > HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in short supply." > I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a 200LX. I was > thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with someone. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:14:21 -0700 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Serie-cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Part F1216-60998, Phone 1-800-227-8164, URL: https://partsdirect.hp.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Salwasser Ýmailto:TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM¨ Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:23 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Serie-cable I need the whole kit. Can you help me with a part number, 800 number and/ or web link? Thanks very much. Regards, Tom Salwasser > > HP Parts Direct still has the Maintenance Kit, but it is "in short supply." > I need a IR cover for my 95LX and a left hinge cap for a 200LX. I was > thinking of getting a Maintenance Kit and splitting it with someone. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:28:22 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: No COM2: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello All, Had a HDD die on my OB430. Replaced it with a Viper340, formatted just fine, sys'd it, copied all the backup files to it and it boots from Drive C now just fine. Problem is in the COM port assignments. On boot up I press ALT then F2 for COM port assignments. I choose C so that my PCMCIA port will be COM2. But instead of taking that keyboard input, the OB is reading my keypress of C as the boot option to boot from drive C even though it's on the Port Assignment screen. If I got back and check, it indeed held my choice of C in the port assignments, but no program or utility is finding any COM2 on my system. I only run DOS on my OB430, there is no Win3x loaded. Any ideas, suggestions? Bob .......................................................... Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com . HP200LX Palmtop .Submini Cameras. Vintage Mechanicals . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:11:04 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: SCM PCMCIA card reader "SMMCDR31" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:41:11 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I have an ISA slot PCMCIA reader to go to a good home. $3.50 ships USPS Priority to US destinations. First responce gets it! Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:32:33 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Morse Code Programs Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert K. Meyer wrote: > Do any of you hams have a favorite code text reader/practice > program for the LX? I've been wanting to relearn the code and in preparation I picked up a couple of morse code programs (listed below). I haven't actually used any of them so I can't say which is best or will do what you want. Super Morse ... SM416 Morse Code Trainer ... MC12 Morse Practice Program ... Mpp110 Cheers... Russ N6EGJ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 00:26:05 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ACT Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hi Everyone > > I just recently obtained a copy of ACT. I had never heard of it before > and am wondering who wrote it and how to use it. It looks like > a contact manager, is that what it is? Are there other contact managers > written for the LX? Thanks. It was/is a contact manager. I believe Symantec took it over and I THINK but am not sure that the hp available version was not y2k compliant???? It was very popular for a while as I recall. Never used it and never even saw a copy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:11:46 -0500 Reply-To: "jwestley@bellsouth.net" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: ACT Whoever the guy was who started Act! started a company called Saleslogix, who makes more complicated corporate sales software. Saleslogix bought Act! a year or two ago from Symantec. Saleslogix now calls themselves Interact Commerce Corporation. Act! is still supported by them I believe, but ACT! 2000 was the last release. I think they have been bought again by The Sage Group. >>I believe Symantec took it over<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 02:31:18 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: ANN: PDU V2.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony Hutchins improved PDU once more by merging the pdu.scr and pdu_err.scr script into the single script pdu.scr. He also simplified the setup and added new features. Tony, many thanks! Version 2.5 -Improvements by Tony Hutchins: (01-DEC-01) -Removed dependence on directories in the setup -Allow optional usage of ROBOT.CFG -Message ref. number can be recorded for sent SMS -More than one SMS box allowed Download from: http://peichl.hplx.net/pdu.zip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:58:06 -0500 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Charging NiMH batteries in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What is the parameter for the driver to disable this switch? Below is an excerpt from the documentation for Mack's speed driver: /B - kills the "MAIN BATTERY LOW" message /U - kills the "BKUP BATTERY LOW" message /C - kills the "CARD BATTERY LOW" message /E - kills the "*BATTERY ERROR*" message /V - kills the "MAIN BATT VERY LOW" message /M - kills the charging related messages /N - sets constant full rate charging with no time out /N- - same as above except start off with batteries not charging /K - installs a 64 key keyboard buffer /L - turns on backlighting control /L?? - selects the backlighting hotkey where ?? should be replaced with a 2 digit hex code /P - makes sure the serial port stays powered off Steve Carder PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:27:26 -0500 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: SCM PCMCIA card reader "SMMCDR31" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 30 Nov 2001 22:27:30 -0500 (EST) Hi All: Card is spoken for, Thank You! Cheers...AJKind 06h16m26s ago ... On Fri, 30 Nov 2001, Al Kind wrote: > Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:41:11 -0500 (EST) > > Hi All: > > I have an ISA slot PCMCIA reader to go to a good home. $3.50 ships > USPS Priority to US destinations. First responce gets it! > > Cheers...AJKind > > -- > * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA > * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 23:32:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: FS: HP200LX, 32MB, Single Speed Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed For sale as a package only: - HP200LX, 32MB, Single Speed. (It's one of my backups, so it's in like new condition.) - AC adapter. - Serial cable. - Case. - Light. I'm willing to sell the entire package for $510.00 including shipping (only in the US). If you are interested, please contact me OFF the mail list at weather@exis.net. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml