========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 00:10:03 -0700 Reply-To: Ron Tarrant Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Tarrant Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <200103311232.FAA30018@mail.bwn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:17:06 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <004201c0ba60$a9cec120$e485fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>1. a "collar radio" (not walkman) my dog has one of those it keeps him in the yard who are you trying to train? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:22:40 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > 1. a "collar radio" (not walkman) Not new, I saw one a couple of years ago. A flexible tube you draped around your neck. it left stereo speakers below your ears, on top of your shoulders. Probably patented. > 2. a chemical self-defense gun masquerading as a handgun Not a good idea. Nothing should pretend to be a gun. It'll get you shot (several people have died in the USA due to their play guns). Do they have product liability lawsuits in France? > An email disguising itself as a virus alert is doing the rounds again, Please don't forward virus notifications via email; they cause as much harm to the net as the real thing. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:36:57 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:22:40 +0000 Russel Brooks a =E9crit: > > An email disguising itself as a virus alert is doing the rounds again= , >=20 > Please don't forward virus notifications via email; they cause > as much harm to the net as the real thing. Check the date... ;-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:43:00 +0200 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: CPACK and WinME Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did you try john Vanderstel tip: "I work as a beta tester for remote backup software and we learned a trick relating to that. To force Windows to release it's serial ports we include the following additional lines under the heading "Ý386Enh¨" in the system.ini file in the windows directory: ComBoostTime=5 Com1AutoAssign=2 Com2AutoAssign=2 Com3AutoAssign=2 Com4AutoAssign=2 Com1FIFO=1 Com2FIFO=1 Com3FIFO=1 Com4FIFO=1 This stops windows from mothering you with concern over having two programs attempting to access the same port at the same time" HTH Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: HP Staber To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 06:29 AM Subject: CPACK and WinME I have WinME and installed CPACK. I'm able to run App200 except for the File Transfer and the XLate functions in a desktop icon. TransFile dows not connect to the palmtop either. I have MS-Office installed which includes a MS-DOS app icon in the MS-Office shortcut. I could run a DOS session from there and I was able to connect to the palmtop through Filer. Upon exiting the desktop froze and I had to issue a cold boot to recover. Might try ZIP in a DOS session - it does not work as desktop application. It seems that WinME ties up all Com ports and releases them to plug-n-play applications only ;-) And yes - the claim that WinME does not know DOS is bovine excrements (g). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:56:23 -0500 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Number 1 was made in the 1980s - see http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1127928866 As noted elsewhere, pretend guns will still get *you* killed, and will make sure your opponent will *not* - in the US we call that suicide... Ken ------Original Message------ From: Nathalie Bugeaud To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: April 1, 2001 3:51:03 AM GMT Subject: FLUFF: inventions for a few years now i carry this "wouldn't it be nice if someone made" feeling around, but never was able to find someone who might actually create just the item i have in mind. so i thought maybe someone from our list might be interested in joining me to find a manufacturer of two of my ideas: 1. a "collar radio" (not walkman) 2. a chemical self-defense gun masquerading as a handgun anyone intrested in contacting product development at ie. SONY America (or whoever) please contact me also... An email disguising itself as a virus alert is doing the rounds again, warning mobile phone users of a nasty virus that will erase all information on their SIM card. http://www.zdnet.com.au:80/news/dailynews/story/0,2000013063,20211864,00.htm ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:34:14 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: FLUFF: inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie wrote:- >> 2. a chemical self-defense gun masquerading as a handgun Russell wrote:- >Not a good idea. Nothing should pretend to be a gun. It'll get >you shot (several people have died in the USA due to their play >guns). I agree; my daughter, was mugged seven years ago, so she got a can of chemical spray . Three years ago, at London Heathrow, police confiscated it and wanted to know why she should not be arrested for having an offensive weapon. If shaped like a gun, it would have been picked up years earlier. On a later London trip, having no spray, she was again mugged. She fought. Her screams were ignored by people nearby. She got a broken finger and damaged hand ligaments which took months to heal. She is a musician. Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 18:22:34 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: CPACK and WinME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Lemaire" To: Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:43 PM Subject: Re: CPACK and WinME > Did you try john Vanderstel tip: > "I work as a beta tester for remote backup software and we > learned a trick relating to that. To force Windows to release > it's serial ports we include the following additional lines > under the heading "Ý386Enh¨" in the system.ini file in the (snippety) > This stops windows from mothering you with concern over having > two programs attempting to access the same port at the same > time" Hmm . . . I had no trouble installing the Cpack on my WinME system, and even connecting to my Palmtop via serial line set to 19200, but when I exited, my desktop crashed so hard that I had to turn it off in order to reboot. This did not happen if I did nothing serial. It also never happens with XFinder connected via serial cable to its DOS Xserver program on the desktop. I wonder what makes the difference. BTW, XFinder with XServer is MUCH faster than the CPack, and it's free. Because of that I might decide to sell my CPack eventually (no offers please, I have not decided yet). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:22:51 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie, RadioShack sold a collar radio some years ago. I believe it was called a BoneFone. Did not sell well, in the USA at least. I'm not sure that a defensive spray that resembled a handgun is a good idea. In the USA, pointing something at a person (like a handgun, real or fake) that makes them think they are in grave danger, is a very serious crime. That being said, in the USA, there are "handguns" that fire blank rounds that expel chemical agents. They are not as effective as the aerosol projectors. Dennis > so i thought maybe someone from our list might be interested in joining me > to find a manufacturer of two of my ideas: > > 1. a "collar radio" (not walkman) > 2. a chemical self-defense gun masquerading as a handgun > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:46:32 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: FLUFF: inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jacques Belin wrote: > Le Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:22:40 +0000 > Russel Brooks a icrit: > > > An email disguising itself as a virus alert is doing the rounds again, > > Please don't forward virus notifications via email; they cause > > Check the date... ;-) Did I fall for an April Fools joke? Damn, every year someone gets me but I wasn't expecting it here! :-) Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:53:24 -0400 Reply-To: James Henry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: James Henry Subject: FLUFF: inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I'm not sure that a defensive spray that resembled a handgun is a good idea. >In the USA, pointing something at a person (like a handgun, real or fake) >that makes them think they are in grave danger, is a very serious crime. That >being said, in the USA, there are "handguns" that fire blank rounds that >expel chemical agents. They are not as effective as the aerosol projectors. > >Dennis In addition to being a serious crime, it is seriously foolish. Point something at me that looks like a handgun is justification to shoot you dead with my real handgun. It's just not reasonable for me to make you "prove" it's real. If it looks real to a reasonable person, I have every right to act in self-defense at that point. Jim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:06:45 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: VerticalReader -another issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi Bob >I got Quickview.exm from SUPER, but where did you get READ.EXE? i have been blessed with programs (shareware and "profitware") sent by HPLX-L friends around the world. i also have the whole SUPER site on CD and i send out programs to fellow club members almost every day at 49 centimes per minute :) nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:48:54 -0700 Reply-To: SDG Analytic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: SDG Analytic Subject: Algebra Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, friends! I'm privileged to be a friendly lurker. I have a friend who would like to manipulate algebraic expressions on his 200LX. I'm about to investigate the various SUPER offerings for him. He's starting all over educationally, doing catch-up math as he goes back to college. Anyone have any experience with the SUPER programs? Can you recommend one for a fellow doing 'low-velocity' remedial math? Reply off-list if you like. Thanks, Steve Ferrier SDG Analytic, Inc. Semiconductor Failure Analysis Training & Consulting Tel 541-757-9722 Fax 541-757-9757 http://www.sdganalytic.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:17:27 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Goin'postal + Newsgroups Jacques Belin writes: > Le Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:31:41 +0200 > Lillebjorn Nilsen a icrit: > > > A friend uses Goin' Postal. Can she get > > newsgroups with this program? I don't > > No, GP is only for a-mail. > > Jacques. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Palmtop News Reader handles mail and newsgroups. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 03:08:57 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Algebra Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SDG Analytic asked about math programs for 200LX. For a rather complete treatment of math programs for the LX, see http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/48/48c00001.htm and look at the articles on Derive: The Mathematical Assistant and "Through the Looking Glass." Although Derive may be hard to come by any more (It's built into some recent TI advanced calculators.) there are similar programs still available as shareware (mostly unsupported). The article will point to these. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:19:57 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Oldie Software Titles. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I got a backpack of floppy media holding these titles, most of them complete with manuals, some unopened. Anyone has use for them? Ashton-Tate: Sign-Master v5.11 Chart-Master v6.2 Applause II Control Room v1.0 Rapidfile Multimate Printer Enhancement Pack Multimate v4.0 dBase IV and Borland dBase IV v1.5 Lotus Metro v1.0 Sincerely: Tamas Feher. P.S.: This April's fools day was quite poor on HPLX-L. But maybe it was just that Stefan held it in advance with his PalmPilot joke. Looking back now, it seems to be a pretty good fun idea. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:08:31 +0800 Reply-To: Oliver Chua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Oliver Chua Subject: EXM in Basic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Patrick West wrote sometime ago that it was possible to write EXM programs for the LX in Basic? Could someone shed more light on this subject on its capabilities and availability? I have an LX programming project that I would like to do in the near future and currently, basic is the only programming language I'm familiar with. I need it to be able to share clipboard info hence a EXE file is not an option. I'm trying to learn C (to be able to use Nkit) but its going awfully slow. I'm too old to learn a new programming language. Thanks. regards ... Oliver ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:00:01 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: "cover part" just for" Do it yourselfers"?????? (was - - Co ver and SRAM card sale) Comments: To: "Corso, Tony" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BB96.5D6F4C3C" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BB96.5D6F4C3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Corso, Tony Ýmailto:tcorso@SITHE.COM¨ << Do I have to buy the part and fool with it myself, or will THADDEUS use this Ýpresumably hinge crack resistant 'cause of the brass inserts¨ lid when I send my primary 200lx off to Thaddeus for DS 8MB and lid repair >> We charge a flat $125 rate for all repairs when units are sent to us. Often, we will fix things we see that needs fixing even if they aren't requested. The $25 for covers is ONLY for do-it-yourselfers and can be ignored by anyone that sends us a unit. Hal at Thaddeus ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BB96.5D6F4C3C Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" FW: "cover part" just for" Do it yourselfers"?????? (was - - Cover and SRAM card sale)

 From: Corso, Tony Ýmailto:tcorso@SITHE.COM¨
<< Do I have to buy the part and fool with it myself, or will THADDEUS use this Ýpresumably hinge crack resistant 'cause of the brass inserts¨ lid when I send my primary 200lx off to Thaddeus for DS 8MB and lid repair >>

We charge a flat $125 rate for all repairs when units are sent to us. Often, we will fix things we see that needs fixing even if they aren't requested.  The $25 for covers is ONLY for do-it-yourselfers and can be ignored by anyone that sends us a unit.


Hal at Thaddeus 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BB96.5D6F4C3C-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:02:39 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Excess parts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From Martin Bergvill <> No, I doubt HP has many more parts then they need themselves. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:31:23 -0500 Reply-To: Jack LaRosa Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack LaRosa Subject: Database error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Fellow LXer's, My 6meg double sped 200LX is giving me the following error message whenever I try to add another record to my database: MEMORY REQUIREMENT EXCEEDS APPLICATION'S INTERNAL LIMIT I have 2,509 records and the record structure contains a NOTE field. Every record has text in the NOTE field. The largest amount of text in any NOTE field is probably no more than 100-200 characters. The database file size is 942,069 bytes. I have 2.78M bytes free on my C: drive. DBCHECK reports NO errors. I can't find any reference to this message in the manual and a search of the archives turned up one instance of somebody else getting the same message but his question wasn't answered. Does anyone have any idea what the problem might be? TIA, Jack mailto:jlarosa@bellsouth.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:09:27 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: looking for a spare part (right hinge) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Werner, On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:27:26 +0200, "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > I am looking for a spare part for my 8MB 200LX. > I do not know exactly what it looks like, but the specialists who > have already studied the anatomy of the 200LX will probably know what > I am looking for. I know exactly what you mean. Sorry, I don't have such a part, I'm looking for one myself. But it should be possible to find a suitable sized "Unterlegscheibe" (these round metal plates with a hole in it, which you use to extend the radius of a screw head or to avoid the surface which you drive a screw in from beeing damaged by screwing the screw.... well enough explained??). This should work too, because this black plastic part is only used as a counterpart for the spring. If the tube in which the hinge mechanics are mounted is also broken you may have problems though. Maybe ask Tom Rundel if he has screen case parts left. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:46:33 -0700 Reply-To: Joseph S Barrera III Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joseph S Barrera III Subject: Re: looking for a spare part (right hinge) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also sprach Daniel Hertrich: > I know exactly what you mean. Sorry, I don't have such a part, I'm > looking for one myself. But it should be possible to find a suitable > sized "Unterlegscheibe" (these round metal plates with a hole in it, > which you use to extend the radius of a screw head or to avoid the > surface which you drive a screw in from beeing damaged by screwing the > screw.... well enough explained??). I believe the English word you're looking for is "washer". No, I have no idea why it's called a washer :-) In fact neither does the Oxford English Dictionary :-) - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:12:14 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Cellphone Internet Usage Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently posted about using the CF888 Ericsson with IR port with my HP200LX. Well, it worked just fine sending a few short messages from home prior to my vacation last week. However, when I tried to do any serious work from the campground, I would always get disconnected after about 4-5 minutes of work. I tried with a PPP connection, as well as straight dialup. Some additional experiments I want to try are: (1) hard-wire versus IRDA connection to phone (2) try longer session from home network (not roaming in another PCS area) (3) use another computer, say my Win98 laptop. (a) with IRDA (b) with cable Before I delve into the scientific method and rack up some serious phone charges, I thought I would ask the list if anyone has any experience to share. Maybe there is something special about 5 minutes, related to the IRDA or roaming that I don't know. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:23:08 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Database error message In-Reply-To: <43498153173.20010402123123@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My 6meg double sped 200LX is giving me the following error message >whenever I try to add another record to my database: > >MEMORY REQUIREMENT EXCEEDS APPLICATION'S INTERNAL LIMIT > >I have 2,509 records and the record structure contains a NOTE field. Hi Jack & list I'd suggest you split the DB into two and see if the error goes away on one of the "pieces". That way you should isolate if its a limit prob or if there is some corruption somewhere. Hope this helps. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:07:59 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: FS Sandisk etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, Someone on the list last month mentioned a 160mb Sandisk CF was for sale on Ebay for $180 which seemed good value. When I looked it was sold, but I contacted the seller who had more of them. FWIW, I bought one for $180 + $20 for a Type ll adapter + $20 shipping to Ireland ($5.00 to US) USPS expedited and insured. The card worked without any preparation. I have no connection with him apart from that transaction. His name is Kevin Marcott and he's in San Jose. E-mail address is PLYTEK@aol.com and he has the following on offer. Note that the 160mb CF is now $20 less than I paid for it :-(( SANDISK 64MB COMPACT FLASH TYPE I CARD $70.00 EACH SANDISK 160MB COMPACT FLASH TYPE II CARD $160.00 EACH SANDISK 192MB COMPACT FLASH TYPE I CARD $200.00 EACH SANDISK 300MB COMPACT FLASH TYPE II CARD $350.00 EACH LEXAR 64MB COMPACT FLASH TYPE I CARD $90.00 EACH SANDISK 32MB SMART CARD $45.00 EACH SANDISK 64MB SMART CARD $70.00 EACH SANDISK 256 ATA PCMCIA TYPE II CARD $200.00 EACH I don't know what difference there is between CF type l and ll. Is there any drawback to using the 256 ATA type ll in the LX, $200 looks awfully cheap? Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:19:15 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: SanDisks off Ebay Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've noticed that more of us are buying SanDisk PCMCIA type II and CF cards off of Ebay recently. I've found that in some cases when these cards are being offered they are coming from Dot.Coms that are now Dot.Gones. Watch the prices on Ebay then contact the sellers. For instance, two months ago I saw where someone was selling like new SanDisk 220mb type II pc cards, no reserve. I watched the auctions and the first few went pretty high, then as he posted more and more of them for sale the bid prices began to fall. When they hit $120 I contacted him. He sold me three of these 220mb cards for $110 ea including postage. The cards appear to have never been used and all of them formatted and function perfectly. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:21:27 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Database error message Comments: To: Jack LaRosa In-Reply-To: <43498153173.20010402123123@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>MEMORY REQUIREMENT EXCEEDS APPLICATION'S INTERNAL LIMIT >> >>I have 2,509 records and the record structure contains a NOTE field. looks to me like you have hit the size limit of the database app, I believe it is supposed to be able to hold 5000 entries but I think a note counts as an extra entry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:00:24 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: FLUFF: technical inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi guys nice response to my radio and gun question ... but of not much use i was not asking for comments on the availability or usefulness of such inventions - i was asking for interest in production. Your initial response should have been to request specification details. >my dog has one of those it keeps him in the yard who are you >trying to train? ...and >A flexible tube you draped around your neck. it left stereo >speakers below your ears, on top of your shoulders. Probably patented. >RadioShack sold a collar radio some years ago. I believe it was >called a BoneFone. Did not sell well, in the USA at least. i didn't mean neck collar, but shirt collar, and my design is unique - so don't try to imagine mine from what you have seen before; my question remains unanswered: how to market a technical invention. >Not a good idea. Nothing should pretend to be a gun. It'll get >you shot (several people have died in the USA due to their play >guns). Do they have product liability lawsuits in France? as to Russell, Ken, Richard, Dennis, and Hobchi on the gun issue i would like to take this off-list. The subject is likely to turn into a flame-war (as i have first-hand experience from another list; anyone interested in this issue can start their internet research with "Targeting Guns" by Gary Kleck, or ask me for a copy) Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:11:00 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Database error message In-Reply-To: Jack LaRosa's message of "Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:31:23 -0500" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jack LaRosa wrote: > MEMORY REQUIREMENT EXCEEDS APPLICATION'S INTERNAL LIMIT > > I have 2,509 records and the record structure contains a NOTE field. > Every record has text in the NOTE field. The largest amount of text in As Larry Tachna wrote, there's a limit of about 5,000 records in a *.?DB-flavor database, and filled-in note fields count as records too. I thought I got this number out of the 100LX/200LX Developer's Guide distributed by Thaddeus a few years ago, but doggone if I can find in there now. I think this limit is not due to the file format (which appears to be able to support 32K records) but because the 100/200LX in-ROM database routines keep a working copy of an open database's lookup table in RAM. If I remember the System Manager environment right, that in-RAM table may have to fit in a 64KB segment, maybe alongside other data for the opening System Manager application. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 03:44:23 -0400 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, There are a number of ACCTON PCMCIA ethernet cards on sale on eBAY. The = model 2216-1 has been reported to be working in the HP200LX. Just make a search = on ACCTON PCMCIA on www.ebay.com An ethernet card is usefull for backup of the large memory extensions of = the 200LX (e.g. 32MB, 64MB etc) and may be the best alternative until the Bluetooth chip is implemented in our 200LX :-) Regards, \/ /ves p.s. I have no link with the seller except that I bought one that I = should receive in the next few days. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:53:39 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > There are a number of ACCTON PCMCIA ethernet cards on sale on eBAY. The model > 2216-1 has been reported to be working in the HP200LX. Just make a search on > ACCTON PCMCIA on www.ebay.com Most of the hits appear to be the same seller (http://gocomputershop.com/). If you check their website, they also have the card listed as a weekly special at the ebay listing price of $14.99. So that means it's better to just order it directly from their website than to bid against anyone on ebay. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:03:33 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan Longden Loo wrote: > Most of the hits appear to be the same seller (http://gocomputershop.com/). > > If you check their website, they also have the card listed as a weekly > special at the ebay listing price of $14.99. So that means it's better to > just order it directly from their website than to bid against anyone on > ebay. > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:11:25 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it is true, I have a screw loose! And to make it worse, my foot fell off! I just noticed that my HP 200 has lost one of the little rubber feet, and also the screw that it covered. The screw must have loosened up and was lost when the foot fell off. I can replace the foot with some stuff I have around the house, but does anyone know what the thread size was on the original screw? Was it a torx screw? Thanks Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:18:29 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the > 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan From the networking faq (http://www.hplx.net/faq.networking.html#02): 2.3. What is the difference between the EN2216-1 and the EN2216-2? The cards themselves are identical, but the breakout boxes are different. The EN2216-1 includes just an RJ-45 jack, while the EN2216-2 includes both an RJ-45 jack and a coaxial cable connector. The -2 model is therefore larger in size, weight, and probably current usage. For the palmtop, you can't use a coaxial cable network anyway; it draws too much current. Hence, stick with the 2216-1. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:09:11 -0700 Reply-To: letter Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: letter Subject: TECH:TCP/IP and Netware with 200lx and Accton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I purchased an Accton EN2216-1 card and am having no success connecting to my company's LAN. Can anybody help me get started -- I'd like to be able to use telnet, ping, etc. and be able to log in to Netware (not necessarily at the same time). Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:23:47 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Cellphone Internet Usage Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris Lott wrote: > However, when I tried to do any serious work from the campground... Sounds like a bad signal strenght on the campground compared to your home. The weaker the signal, the stronger the mobile has to send, which also means more EMI...very bad for the HP. > Some additional experiments I want to try are: > > (1) hard-wire versus IRDA connection to phone that could prove my suspicion. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:49:41 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: technical inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > i didn't mean neck collar, but shirt collar, and my design is unique - so > don't try to imagine mine from what you have seen before; my question > remains unanswered: how to market a technical invention. This too has been done before, I've seen them for clipping onto your shirt collar. Not as unique as you think it is. As far as the gun, I would point out that many have been shot by the police because the toy guns looked "too" real. If the police see a gun my belief is that they have to assume it real and act accordingly. There are some police on this list, is that assumption correct? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:02:22 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! In-Reply-To: <3AC9CBFD.210F201A@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:11:25 -0500 Bryan Biggers a =E9crit: > does anyone > know what the thread size was on the original screw? Was it a > torx screw? Yes. Torx T-6. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:05:22 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan Biggers wrote: > Yes, it is true, I have a screw loose! And to make it worse, my > foot fell off! I'm not sure if it is still available but HP had a parts kit that they sold with parts like screws, feet, etc. Anyone know if this kit is still sold? Would Thaddeus have them if it is not sold any more? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:29:05 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: TECH:TCP/IP and Netware with 200lx and Accton In-Reply-To: <74A92A50EA19D5119A5A006008AC264801254F62@MAIL1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, letter wrote: > I purchased an Accton EN2216-1 card and am having no success connecting to > my company's LAN. Can anybody help me get started -- I'd like to be able to > use telnet, ping, etc. and be able to log in to Netware (not necessarily at > the same time). Here's a repost of a message I've sent before in response to a similar request. Hope it is helpful. ------- begin repost ------------------------ For some reason, connecting to the Novell LAN at work was one of the harder things I've done. It took me several tries, and lots of help from others. I never did get Rod Whitby's driver to work--I used the set of files (by Nori?) on SUPER. I suppose now that I got them working I might be able to go back and get Rod's working, but quite frankly once I got something to work, fiddling around further was the *last* thing I wanted to do. Anyway, here is my setup. I have in my program directory (I chose c:\prgms\net) the following files: lxcic.com net.cfg netx.exe op2216.exe pd2212.com pdipx.com I load lxcic in my autoexec.bat file with: c:\prgms\net\lxcic /l Here are the contents of net.cfg and the batch file I use to load everything. Ýnet.cfg¨ netware dos requestor first network drive = j Ýnetup.bat¨ copy \prgms\lxtcp\tcp.lan \prgms\lxtcp\tcp.cfg cd \prgms\net op2216 pd2212 0x62 5 pdipx netx k: This leaves me at a k:\login prompt and I can log on to the LAN. Somebody else had to explain to me that the login drive was going to be the letter *after* the first network drive designated in the net.cfg file. This was not at all obvious to me. I have not gotten so far as to map a network drive. I use CPack to move files back and forth, and it's sufficient for me as I don't do a lot of this. I also had a lot of trouble getting some of the LXTCP applications (especially LXTELNET) to run over my LAN's internet connection. Through other helpful people on this list (thanks Mike Kopplin!), I learned that I had to specify a more complete tcp.cfg file. I have dynamic IP number assigned through my dial-up account, so that's why the first line in my batch file exists--two different tcp.cfg files for two different purposes. I don't know if you're interested in the LXTCP apps, but Here's the first portion of my tcp.cfg file Ýafter being copied from tcp.lan¨ just in case. Ýtcp.cfg¨ ;**************************** ;* General LXTCP parameters * ;**************************** my_ip=192.168.0.143 netmask=255.255.255.0 gateway=192.168.0.1 nameserver=192.168.0.1 domainslist=medinst.com hostname="lx" Anyway, hope this information helps. Good luck! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP fingerprint = 5B C5 B4 54 3C 30 E3 2C A2 FA 81 1C 39 06 B8 25 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:01:53 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Interest for an alternative to GDBwin? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Keefe's article about GDBwinÝ1¨ suggests that there might be some interest in a similar application, considering that using the japanese interface must be not fully intuitive for most readers of this list. I guess nobody here knows that my Perl GDB module also contains a Perl/Tk script to browse DB files interactively. Recently I also added a save function, so that files can now be modified on the desktop computer too. The application is not complete yet but it works well enough for me to use it for large edits instead of hacking away on the tiny LX keyboard. Perl/Tk originates from the Unix/X11 world but as it turns out, a company called "Active State"Ý2¨ also provides installable binaries for Windows. Perl itself can be found there (see Ý3¨) and most of the CPAN modules are available in their PPM format (see Ý4¨) (Perl Package Manager) which is basically only a reference for the real binaries, located at Active State's file servers. Tk is there (see Ý5¨) and also a reference to the hp200lx-db module, version 0.07. Unfortunately, this is a rather old version and it does not include the example scripts, but xdb.plÝ6¨ works in browser mode. A screen shot (100 KByte JPEG) showing a few views from an example database can be found atÝ7¨. If there's interest I'll try to improve the software, otherwise I'll just proceed for my own fun. References: Ý1¨ Through the Looking Glass http://www.palmtoppaper.com/ptphtml/51/5100001d.htm Ý2¨ http://www.activestate.com/ Ý3¨ http://www.activestate.com/Products/ActivePerl/Download.html Ý4¨ http://www.activestate.com/PPMPackages/5.6plus/ Ý5¨ http://www.activestate.com/PPMPackages/5.6plus/Tk.ppd Ý6¨ http://afs.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/edvz/gonter/sw/cddb2gdb/xdb.pl Ý7¨ http://afs.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/edvz/gonter/sw/cddb2gdb/imageTNQ.jpg +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:29:39 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Cellphone Internet Usage Question Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <14kRix-1ccWYrC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> from "Stefan Peichl" at Apr 03, 2001 04:23:47 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > However, when I tried to do any serious work from the campground... > > Sounds like a bad signal strenght on the campground compared to > your home. The weaker the signal, the stronger the mobile has > to send, which also means more EMI...very bad for the HP. I, too, wondered about that. In the past, signal strength at these campgrounds was quite poor. However, this particular place had signal strength at or better to what I get at home! > > Some additional experiments I want to try are: > > (1) hard-wire versus IRDA connection to phone > that could prove my suspicion. I'll be giving this a try in the next few days, and will let folks know if I learn anything interesting. One immediate question I have - is there a recommended init string people are using with these GSM phone modems? I am just resetting to the factory defaults with the AT&F string. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:38:38 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> For a variety of reasons -- foremost we normally have no real source for parts except cannibalized palmtops -- we don't normally sell parts. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:44:08 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Database error message In-Reply-To: <200104030511.f335BP447644@daemonweed.reanimators.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:11 PM 02/04/01 -0700, you wrote: >Jack LaRosa wrote: >> MEMORY REQUIREMENT EXCEEDS APPLICATION'S INTERNAL LIMIT >> >> I have 2,509 records and the record structure contains a NOTE field. >> Every record has text in the NOTE field. The largest amount of text in > >As Larry Tachna wrote, there's a limit of about 5,000 records in a >*.?DB-flavor database, and filled-in note fields count as records too. Hi all From page 4-30 in the LX manual Max records Limited by disk space theoretical about 5000 Max data per text field 1.5 x visible length or at least 10 Max data in a note 32K (about 30 screens) Max choices in a category field 32 (or 255 characters ttl) Max fields in structure 99 or fewer if large fields Max pages in DB 4 Max subsets 16 It says nothing about a note being an extra record yet from Jacks experience it may be he has hit the wall with his DB ie 2509 x 2 (because of note field) 5018 records in the DB. Where did info come from re note being an extra record please? Hope this helps Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:11:10 -0400 Reply-To: "St-Louis,Robert ÝNCR¨" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "St-Louis,Robert ÝNCR¨" Subject: Looking for: used copy of Software Carousel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC71.D795D0E0" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC71.D795D0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi! I'd like to try this software but can't afford a new copy. If you have a used copy you're willing to sell, please email me. Thanks much. --Robert ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC71.D795D0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Looking for: used copy of Software Carousel

Hi!
I'd like to try this software but can't afford a new copy.
If you have a used copy you're willing to sell, please email me.
Thanks much.
  --Robert


------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC71.D795D0E0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:11:18 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Cellphone Internet Usage Question In-Reply-To: <200104031629.f33GTd826795@mail.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Chris & list One thing I can pass on is to contact your Tel company. Ask to speak to the DATA department and explain what has happened. The people there are usually VERY techy and want to solve issues like these. The people here had me dial them (a test modem) so they could watch the connection from Taiwan. I am in Australia and roamed to Taiwan. I had all sorts of connection probs from there. Tried resetting speeds, init strings etc all to no avail. I called tech support in Australia and found out that the speed was set by my home telephone company (9600 baud) yet the telephone company in Taiwan wasnt there yet (Lower bandwidth as they were building towers etc) Consequently I connected, was online for varying periods, and was disconnected. When my Telco reduced the speed of my data connection things improved considerably yet lower speed meant longer time online so I didnt use it that much. From my understanding of data GSM and travelling a lot, this is what happens. Call initiated Roaming telco checks Home telco to see if you can make the call, gets all settings so it can "handle" your call just like at home. Makes call BTW The data dept gave me settings for my particular modem card (Nokia) that worked great. ie longer time to hold carrier while cells were changing if I was in a marginal area. Each modem has a unique "best" GSM setting. Regards Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:30:43 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Fluff: No backup and the batteries die??.. It could be worse Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" THE NEXT TIME YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY: Fire authorities in California found a corpse in a burned out section of forest while assessing the damage done by a forest fire. The deceased male was dressed in a full wet suit, complete with scuba tanks on his back, flippers, and facemask. A post-mortem revealed that the person died not from burns, but from massive internal injuries. Dental records provided a positive identification. Investigators then set about to determine how a fully clad diver ended up in the middle of a forest fire. It was revealed that on the day of the fire, the person went for a diving trip off the coast some 20 miles from the forest. The firefighters, seeking to control the fire as quickly as possible, called in a fleet of helicopters with very large dip buckets. Water was dipped from the ocean and then flown to the forest fire and emptied. You guessed it. One minute our diver was making like Flipper in the Pacific, the next he was doing the breaststroke in a fire dip bucket 300 feet in the air. Apparently he extinguished exactly 5'10" of the fire. Some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed. This article was taken from the California Examiner, March 20, 1998. STILL THINK YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY? A man was working on his motorcycle on his patio and his wife was in the kitchen. The man was racing the engine on the motorcycle when it accidentally slipped into gear. The man, still holding onto the handlebars, was dragged through the glass patio doors and along with the motorcycle dumped onto the floor inside the house. The wife, hearing the crash, ran into the dining room and found her husband lying on the floor, cut and bleeding, the motorcycle lying next to him, and the shattered patio door. The wife ran to the phone and summoned the ambulance. Because they lived on a fairly large hill, the wife went down the several flights of stairs to the street to escort the paramedics to her husband. After the ambulance arrived and transported the man to the hospital, the wife uprighted the motorcycle and pushed it outside. Since gas was spilled on the floor, the wife got some paper towels, blotted up the gasoline, and threw the towels in the toilet. The man was treated and released to come home. Upon arriving home, he looked at the shattered patio door and the damage done to his motorcycle. He became despondent, went to the bathroom, sat down on the toilet and smoked a cigarette. After finishing the cigarette, he flipped it between his legs into the toilet bowl while seated. The wife, who was in the kitchen, heard the loud explosion and her husband screaming. She ran into the bathroom and found her husband lying on the floor. His trousers had been blown away and he was suffering burns on the buttocks, the back of his legs, and his groin. The wife again ran to the phone to call the ambulance. The very same paramedic crew was dispatched and the wife met them at the street. The paramedics loaded the husband on to the stretcher and began carrying him to the street. While they were going down the stairs to the street accompanied by the wife, one of the paramedics asked the wife how the husband had burned himself. She told them and the paramedics started laughing so hard, one of them slipped and tipped the stretcher, dumping the husband out. He fell down the remaining stairs and broke his arm. Taken from a Florida Newspaper. Having a bad day? Just remember, it could be worse..... 1. The average cost of rehabilitating a seal after the Exxon Valdez oil spill in Alaska was $80,000. At a special ceremony, two of the most expensively saved animals were released back into the wild amid cheers and applause from onlookers. A minute later, in full view, a killer whale ate them both. 2. A psychology student in New York rented out her spare room to a carpenter in order to nag him constantly and study his reactions. After weeks of needling, he snapped and beat her with an axe leaving her mentally retarded. 3. A woman came home to find her husband in the kitchen, shaking frantically with what looked like a wire running from his waist towards the electric kettle. Intending to jolt him away from the deadly current she whacked him with a handy plank of wood by the back door, breaking his arm in two places. Until that moment he had been happily listening to his Walkman. 4. Two animal rights protesters were protesting at the cruelty of sending pigs to a slaughterhouse in Bonn Germany. Suddenly the pigs, all two thousand of them, escaped through a broken fence and stampeded, trampling the two hapless protesters to death. And finally....... 5. Iraqi terrorist, Khay Rahnajet, didn't pay enough postage on a letter bomb. It came back with "return to sender" stamped on it. Forgetting it was the bomb, he opened it and was blown to bits. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:27:49 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Interest for an alternative to GDBwin? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:24:16 -0500 (EST) Hi GG: Please do continue to work on in & share. THANKS! Cheers...AJKind 04h22m23s ago ... On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Gerhard Gonter wrote: > ... > If there's interest I'll try to improve the software, otherwise > I'll just proceed for my own fun. > > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:45:42 -0500 Reply-To: Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Interest for an alternative to GDBwin? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Gerhard, There's an English version of GDBWinE available on SUPER as well as the original Japanese version. It works quite well on my Win98 machine and it's free. .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:51:55 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: No backup and the batteries die??.. It could be worse In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010404053043.007fc4f0@powerup.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:30:43 +1000 Russell Hemery a =E9crit: > THE NEXT TIME YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY: =2E..You will most of these stories, and many others on the sites like : http://www.urbanlegends.com or http://urbanlegends.miningco.com > 5. Iraqi terrorist, Khay Rahnajet, didn't pay enough postage on a letter > bomb. It came back with "return to sender" stamped on it. Forgetting it > was the bomb, he opened it and was blown to bits. This one is probably the most amazing. Can anyone could ever think that a terrorist would mark his return adress on a letter bomb ? Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:06:07 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! Comments: To: Hal Goldstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hal Goldstein wrote: > <> > > For a variety of reasons -- foremost we normally have no real source for > parts except cannibalized palmtops -- we don't normally sell parts. Hal, the parts that HP use to sell in that $20 package were quite useful and many (or most?) LXers usually end up needing something from the kit eventually. While the best advise is for LXers to buy a kit from HP personally, many won't until they need them. If Thadeus could buy a supply of the kits (before they become unobtainable if it hasn't already happened) I'm sure future buyers wouldn't mind a 25-??% markup to buy from you. Cheers... Russ (I got mine from HP when I 1st got my 200LX) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:06:25 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff: No backup and the batteries die??.. It could be worse Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > THE NEXT TIME YOU THINK YOU ARE HAVING A BAD DAY: > Fire authorities in California found a corpse in a burned out section of ... I really don't want to filter out FLUFF posts because some are useful and partially on topic. However this post looks to be a straight pull from some net humor site or forwarded email from a friend. Please give some thought to us that DON'T want to read non-LX humor items here. Remember, some of us actually do use the LX for our email and all that extra non-LX unwanted junk has to take up limited LX disk space before I can kill it. If in doubt... DON'T post it. However, if that diver had a 200lx in his pocket it WOULD have been on topic (just barely). Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:29:48 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > If Thadeus could buy a supply of the kits (before > they become unobtainable if it hasn't already happened) I'm sure > future buyers wouldn't mind a 25-??% markup to buy from you. I agree that they'd buy them. The question is whether Thaddeus has enough free cash to buy a stock of slow moving inventory. Even a 25% markup may not compensate for money that can be doing more productive things in the bank instead of waiting on the faithful masses to finally see the light of need (one at a time, no doubt). - Longden (who coughed up his $20 a long time ago too) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:57:24 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: No backup and the batteries die??.. It could be worse MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: > This one is probably the most amazing. Can anyone could ever think that a > terrorist would mark his return adress on a letter bomb ? Remember terrorists in that region of the world are told they will go to 'heaven' if they kill an american or a zionist. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:36:14 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > > If Thadeus could buy a supply of the kits (before > > they become unobtainable if it hasn't already happened) I'm sure > > future buyers wouldn't mind a 25-??% markup to buy from you. > > I agree that they'd buy them. The question is whether Thaddeus has enough > free cash to buy a stock of slow moving inventory. > > Even a 25% markup may not compensate for money that can be doing more > productive things in the bank instead of waiting on the faithful masses to > finally see the light of need (one at a time, no doubt). Good points. Maybe I should buy a bunch; they'd be worth $50-75 in a few years. :-) Seriously folks, if you don't have one of these parts kits you should get one (or two). Does HP still sell 'em? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:36:49 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: FLUFF: technical inventions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/3/01 10:48:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time, KenLondon@BELD.NET writes: > If the police see a gun my belief is that they have to assume it real and act accordingly. There are some police on this list, is that assumption correct? Yes, it would be foolish, and dangerous, to do otherwise. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:25:15 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: Database error message In-Reply-To: Russell Hemery's message of "Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:44:08 +1000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Russell Hemery wrote: > It says nothing about a note being an extra record yet from Jacks > experience it may be he has hit the wall with his DB ie 2509 x 2 (because > of note field) 5018 records in the DB. > Where did info come from re note being an extra record please? I was thinking it was in the 100LX/200LX developer's guide, but I can't get any closer to it than the chapter on database formats, where it explains what the various record types are. Note records are separate from Data records, but it doesn't go so far to say that Note records get their own entries in the lookup table. Maybe I hallucinated it. Or maybe it is in some notes that Andy Gryc posted somewhere or other but which my sloppy file management prevents me turning it up right now. My own personal experience is that a similar database (two pages per record, one note field that usually was filled in with something) got slow and flakey at about the 2400-record point. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:57:43 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Apr 2001 to 3 Apr 2001 (#2001-117) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! > Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:05:22 -0400 > From: Ken London > >Bryan Biggers wrote: > >> Yes, it is true, I have a screw loose! And to make it worse, my >> foot fell off! > >I'm not sure if it is still available but HP had a parts kit that >they sold with parts like screws, feet, etc. Anyone know if this >kit is still sold? Would Thaddeus have them if it is not sold >any more? I just got a spares kit from HP a couple of weeks ago. The part number is F1216-60998 and it cost me $18 The phone number is 800-227-8164 option 4 -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:16:15 +0200 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longden Loo wrote: > > Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the > > 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan ... > current usage. For the palmtop, you can't use a coaxial cable network > anyway; it draws too much current. Hence, stick with the 2216-1. > I use the -2 version. works OK as long as I dont use the coax. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:30:53 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: NIV dos version seen on Ebay In-Reply-To: <5b.14329f2a.27fbf0d1@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone asked me about my dos version of the NIV quite sometime ago. Anyways I just saw this one on Ebay. Patrick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:05:46 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Re: Scuba airdrop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Although California Examiner exists and is a Philippino-oriented local newspaper publication in LA vicinity, website SunseaDrivers.com says the wildfire scuba diver story is an urban legend. One suspicious point in the story was forest fire site, being 50 miles from sea. Choppers would need almost an hour to cover that distance back and forth, making aerial extinguish efforts practically meaningless. And it was a day late for April's fools. Sincerely, Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:03:08 -0400 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan Biggers wrote: > Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the > 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan From the www.accton.com website, the EN2216-1 uses 110 mA while the = EN2216-2 (i.e. with coax) uses 200 mA. The current limit for the HP200LX being 150 = mA, the EN2216-2 will not work while the EN2216-1 is OK. www.accton.com.sg/accton/products/adapters/en2216/specs.html Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:03:12 -0400 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longden Loo wrote: > If you check their website, they also have the card listed as a weekly > special at the ebay listing price of $14.99. So that means it's better = to > just order it directly from their website than to bid against anyone on > ebay. Too bad that I didn't pay attention to that. I bought mine for $20 :-( \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:46:20 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: For sale: Siemens S25/35/C35 to HPLX data cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I have 1 (one) custom-made data cable for sale to connect the Palmtop (works for all models - 100/200LX/1000CX) directly via the serial port to a Siemens moble phone (S25, S35 and C35 models, if the new phones SL45 and S40 (?) have the same port as the S25/35 models, the cable probably works for the new ones, too). The cable is exactly the model I describe on http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx i.e. the DCD line is hard-wired to Vcc, i.e. the cable works with Goin" Postal (other cables don't, it seems). The cable is about 20 cm long. You can use the cable to connect your palmtop to the internet using any communications software which runs on the palmtop (the phone will look as a standard 9600bps modem to the palmtop, connected to COM1). Remember: IrDA connections only work with D&A Software's WWW/LX! Since I didn't make the cable myself, but let it make, and so the cable is made using a real printed circuit board, not the way I made the cable using "loose wiring" on a standard circuit board, I have to set the price a little higher than the cables I sold some time ago. See "part 3" of my data cable page http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx/#part3 But I think 60 Euro is still reasonable (shipping not included). I accept PayPal payment and, of course, an "\berweisung" from Germany. The first person who sends me an email requesting the cable will get it. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:46:08 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: LX case instability - normal? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I experienced a strange thing with my 200LX. It is rather easy to topple it when open, I mean it has a natural desire to roll backwards even when sitting on plain tabletop surface and come to rest supported only by the upper horizontal edge of the LCD lid and the battery cover. My palmtop is nothing special AFAIK, two alkalines inserted, no PCMCIA card in slot, all rubber legs in place. Is this normal for 200LX? This stability resembles Wasa. BTW, I know OGO700LX had a support stick, which had to be tilted to right angle to prevent capsize, when docked with 2110 GSM phone. Thank in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:33:39 -0400 Reply-To: Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: LX case instability - normal? In-Reply-To: <002d01c0bd05$387a28f0$162fa8c0@2fkft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feher, You are correct. I took out my flash card and was able to duplicate your findings. I have used a flash card so long that I don't have a problem with either of my two 200LXs. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 USA tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:23:11 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff: No backup and the batteries die??.. It could be worse Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Please give some thought to us that DON'T want to read >>non-LX humor items here. not to mention those of us who have seen those old jokes multiple times before elsewhere ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:07:16 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: HP LX Parts Pack Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HP customers can also use HP's orderdirect.hp.com website. New customers simply fill out the registration info. Then place the order. The parts pack is $18.00 and includes new feet, AA battery compartment cover, button cell battery cover, IRDA cover and hinge caps. Total Price $18.66 including tax and s/h. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:49:23 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Apr 2001 to 3 Apr 2001 (#2001-117) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > From page 4-30 in the LX manual > > Max records Limited by disk space theoretical > about 5000 > > It says nothing about a note being an extra record > yet from Jacks experience it may be he has hit the > wall with his DB ie 2509 x 2 (because of note field) > 5018 records in the DB. I suspect that limit is for a 1 meg lx. Or possibly a 2 meg one. But I'd put my money on the 1 meg model. For those with more disk space more records might well be practical. I don't keep my data files on my C: drive. They're all on my A: drive, which in the case of the LX I still use for phone numbers, is 10 meg. So I might be able to have 50,000 records. Unless some other unstated limit gets in the way. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:04:23 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: HP LX Parts Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bob, I've been looking for the orderdirect.hp.com site that you mention, but there does not appear to be one. Starting on the main HP site, I can't find anything for the HP200... I could use a link if you have one, or just something to get me close. I tried the HP store and support links, thanks Bryan Bob Christopher wrote: > > HP customers can also use HP's orderdirect.hp.com website. > New customers simply fill out the registration info. Then > place the order. The parts pack is $18.00 and includes new > feet, AA battery compartment cover, button cell battery > cover, IRDA cover and hinge caps. > > Total Price $18.66 including tax and s/h. > > Bob > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:13:56 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Yes, it is true, I have a screw loose! And to make it worse, my >> foot fell off! >> > I'm not sure if it is still available but HP had a parts kit that > they sold with parts like screws, feet, etc. Anyone know if this > kit is still sold? Would Thaddeus have them if it is not sold > any more? > I ordered this just last Friday (March 30, 2001) from the Canadian HP Customer Service Centre, by phone at 905-206-4725. It's the "Palmtop Maintenance Kit", HP Part Number F1216-60998. Cost is Canadian $27.00 (about US$18.00?) plus courier charges. The very pleasant woman on the phone confirmed that it was in stock. I expect it to arrive any day now. I believe that the US order desk number for HP Direct is 1-800-227-8164. Bruce in Toronto ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce Martin bruce_martin@manulife.com (416) 218-5819 Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife Financial ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:36:09 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent. I was able to order a kit on line. The part number is F1216-60998 as Bruce said. The web site is actually "partsdirect.hp.com", you have to register with them first to use the site. The cost was $18.99 US with tax, although you can buy it for $18.00 if you don't want to pay tax ;) Shipping is included. Thanks to all who helped! I'll probably have some extra screws now if anyone wants one. Bryan Bruce Martin wrote: > > > It's the "Palmtop Maintenance Kit", HP Part Number F1216-60998. > > Cost is Canadian $27.00 (about US$18.00?) plus courier charges. The very > pleasant woman on the phone confirmed that it was in stock. I expect it to > arrive any day now. > > I believe that the US order desk number for HP Direct is 1-800-227-8164. > > Bruce in Toronto > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:48:11 -0700 Reply-To: Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Correction... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ooops, sorry about the HP website address error. Point your browser to: http://partsdirect.hp.com Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:44:03 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: LX case instability - normal? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I experienced a strange thing with my 200LX. It is rather easy to > topple it when open, I mean it has a natural desire to roll backwards > even when sitting on plain tabletop surface and come to rest supported > only by the upper horizontal edge of the LCD lid and the battery > cover. > > My palmtop is nothing special AFAIK, two alkalines inserted, no PCMCIA > card in slot, all rubber legs in place. > > Is this normal for 200LX? My 200LX with NiMH batteries and a CF card and adapter are pretty stable. If the screen is fully opened and the unit tilted backwards, the unit will right itself, although I note also that it'll stay upended if the flash card isn't in the slot. Apparently the flash card adds a lot to the stability. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:33:18 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Apr 2001 to 3 Apr 2001 (#2001-117) Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001201c0bd16$71e46ea0$78fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I suspect that limit is for a 1 meg lx. Or possibly a 2 meg >>one. But I'd put my money on the 1 meg model. I am pretty sure the limit is not imposed by disk space or even available system memory but I cant remember what or where I got the information to come to this conclusion from. I quickly scanned the dev docs but didn't see anything anybody know this for sure? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:01:11 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: LX case instability - normal? Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Feher Tamas wrote: > I experienced a strange thing with my 200LX. It is rather easy to > topple it when open, I mean it has a natural desire to roll backwards > even when sitting on plain tabletop surface and come to rest supported > only by the upper horizontal edge of the LCD lid and the battery > cover. Mine too. I think its normal. Mine is stable in either position but is easy to push it to the other position. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:11:23 -0500 Reply-To: Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FA: 200LX 32MB w/ Accessories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1227791399&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=987041403&indexURL=0&rd=1 Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:06:06 -0700 Reply-To: dmp24@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David M Peterson Subject: HP Partsurfer URL: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have found this site handy for finding HP parts to buy. The customer service people are nice and the parts come quick. David Peterson Corvallis HP Partsurfer URL: http://outfield.external.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main.pl Go in through personal computers then mobile. The 200lx has the following items still for sale: F1216-60998 18.00 Palmtop Maintenance Kit Includes: 2 Battery Doors, 4 Hinge Caps, 2 I/O Doors, 8 Rubber Feet, 2 ID Nameplates, 3 Screws, and 2 Backup Battery Trays - For 95/100/200LX and 1000CX CUSTOMER REPLACEABLE WARRANTY PART Manual F1216-90011 12.00 200LX Palmtop Quick Start Guide and Owner's Manual F1216-90012 18.00 200LX Palmtop Quick Start Guide and Owner's Manual (German) F1216-90013 20.00 200LX Palmtop Quick Start Guide and Owner's Manual (Spanish) F1216-90014 20.00 200LX Palmtop Quick Start Guide and Owner's Manual (French) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:09:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: how much records per GDB? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:49:23 -0500, Barry wrote: > I suspect that limit is for a 1 meg lx. Or possibly a 2 meg > one. But I'd put my money on the 1 meg model. Did enyone ever write a system macro which is an endless loop that creates dummy records? So one could find out the limit. Create two macros. One which fills only a number field or so, and one which fills another GDB file with a number field AND notes. And run the script on a 1MB model, a 2MB model and a 96MB model! Would be interesting: - If creation of one record takes 1 second - if really the disk space limits the number of records the 96MB model could take 5000*96 ~= 500,000 records, this would take 500,000 seconds which is almost six (6) days! So plug the palmtop on AC! :-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:21:48 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings (again!) from sunny South Africa :-) Sorry if any duplication as I have sent the same msg to another address (david@HPLX.NET ) after 1st attempt 'bounced' but now that I appear to be 'subscribed' here is my plea for HELP! Believe it or not but I am very happy using my old HP95 and have recently installed ACT! for palmtops. What I am in need of is some form of 'User Guide' or 'other' helpful information. Can anyone assist or point me to a site where such info / documents can be downloaded? I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of PCMCIA memory card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will probably make the purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( Many thanks in advance. Best regards Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:26:07 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One reason, why it is a good idea to have a network card even if you don't have any use for it now is PowerLine. PowerLine is Internet out of the wall socket and not the telephone line. It just started in Germany in some regions, after the government issued a new law for legal reasons. PowerLine requires a PowerLine modem which is connected to the computer via a network card. A serial connection cannot be used because PowerLine works in the range of MegaBits. If PowerLine becomes a standard, and you want to use it on the Palmtop, you need a network card. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:40:53 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Using IR header for PC motherboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I got a cheap 5-pin PC motherboard IR header (bare PCB and 2' wire) for use with 200LX <--> Home PC communications. But there are some settings in the BIOS setup of the PC, to make the IR port (Com2: alternative) work.Namely: Protocol: HP-SIR or ASK-IR (I guess HP-SIR is the correct) Mode: Half-duplex or Full-duplex (?) Use Pins: IR-RX2-TX2 or IR-RX -TX (?) Do you know what is the correct setting for these parameters? I would prefer not to reinvent the wheel via trial-error, if someone already uses such IR device, like Daniel Hertrich. But his page has no info on HP-SIR sub-settings. Also what is the max. speed you can get via infrared, is 115kb possible? Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:51:45 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Serial port frying a hole into the palmtop case. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I found the following post on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot. What I would like to know is whether it applies in any way to the hplx. It is a rather long thread, so it sounds like this is not April's fool day, though it sounds very unusual to me. Domingo ************************************************************** *** Hi, a few weeks ago I had a problem with my serial port where my Palm V was connected. The serial port chip virtually burned and MELTED (there is a hole on it). I did not know whether to blame my Palm or my computer. This is what Palm Support Service told me: Merri: Thank you for contacting Palm Incorporated. May I please have your Full Name, Telephone Number, Email address, Type of Palm unit, and the serial number off the back of the Palm Unit? Note: Palm VII and VIIx users will need to contact VII support at 407-531-4400 (www.palm.net). We do not currently support these devices in Web Chat. We apologize for any inconvenience. >Hi, my name is .Tel number 773 .157 >Ok a few weeks ago I had a strange problem. While my palm was connected the chip that controls the serial port in my computer burned (it melted). I do not whether to blame my palm or computer >is it something that previously happened to other palm users? Merri: It has to do with electric status discharge. If the motherboard is not protected for this because of the nature of our product. Sometimes this may occur. The way to eliminate this problem is to connect through a USB connector. >so is palm fault ! I can't believe it ! Are you then taking in charge the cost of new craddles or at least connectors ? Merri: No I didn't say it was Palm's fault in fact it is NOT Palm's fault. Any periphial that is constantly being moved around can cause a static electric shock. Unlike a printer that isn't moved around alot a cradle is moved around >as far as I know my craddle does not move. Anyway, what I want to know if palm is paying for the replacement. It destroyed my serial port and I would appreciate at least a Serial->Usb connector to synch again my palm. I believe it is not too much given the damage >I mean a Serial-> Usb converter sorry, not a new complete craddle. Merri: No Palm is not paying for the damage on the your serial port. It's not just the fact that the cradle is being moved just the action of putting in the palm and taking it out can cause a static electrocal discharge. >I am not asking you to pay for the damage of my serial port. I am asking you (Palm inc) to at least take measures to AVOID DAMAGING MY COMPUTER AGAIN. This is why I ask for a converter. Merri: I really don't think there is anything that Palm can do for you. You can try and call customer Service at 888-956-7256 and see if there are any options. >Ok thanks. Merri: You're Welcome. Merri: Thank you for contacting Palm Incorporated Then I contacted the support line. And the answer "they are trying to fix it with the computer industry" but they will not pay for anything. Not even a Serial->USB converter that may protect your computer. Next PDA, anything but Palm. Regards, Juan Rufilanchas. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:19:29 -0400 Reply-To: Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Help me, I have a screw loose! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My "Palmtop Maintenance Kit" arrived on April 4, three working days after I ordered it. The Kit includes the following: 2 battery doors, #F1061-4001 2x2 hinge caps, #F1060-40014 2x4 rubber feet, #F1000-40020 2 infrared windows, #F1000-40019 2 backup battery trays, #F1000-40008 2 engraveable plates, #00048-80067 3 case screws, #0515-2198 Why only three screws, and not two sets of four, I don't understand. Anyway, this is well worth the money for anyone wanign to keep their 200LX in service for a while longer. > I ordered this just last Friday (March 30, 2001) from the Canadian HP > Customer Service Centre, by phone at 905-206-4725. > > It's the "Palmtop Maintenance Kit", HP Part Number F1216-60998. > > Cost is Canadian $27.00 (about US$18.00?) plus courier charges. The very > pleasant woman on the phone confirmed that it was in stock. I expect it to > arrive any day now. > > I believe that the US order desk number for HP Direct is 1-800-227-8164. Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:02:47 +0200 Reply-To: Luettjohann@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCttjohann?= Subject: Palmtop Thermometer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I have built a little thermometer that can be plugged into the serial port of the palmtop. If you are interested in it, you can have a look at it on my homepage: www.eddy.uni-duisburg.de/stephan/palmtop.htm There you can read how the thermometer works, how to build it and what the software does to calculate the temperature using the "data" coming from the thermometer. My thermometer software can freely be downloaded there, too. Stephan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:17:38 +0200 Reply-To: "Konstantin v. Witzleben" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Konstantin v. Witzleben" Subject: New list member MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello! Like Daniel Hertrich allready announced I am a new member of the great family of the 'Palmtopers'. As you already know I'm a very good friend of him and he made it possible to me to get to know what a great pleasure the application of a HP 200LX means. When Daniel asked me:'Hey do xou wanna have a Palmtop?', I only said: 'Oh, certainly, why not?! But at that moment i had no idea what a opportunity presented itself that day. Today I think the 200LX even caused a certain change in my life some way. And so today I'm very grateful to you, Daniel, for all your help in connection with my new achievement. I look forward to each occasion of communication with all of you. Kind regards Konstantin -- Konstantin v. Witzleben mailto:konstantin.witzleben@gmx.de Phone: +49 172 7924787 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:02:47 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: PowerLine In-Reply-To: <14l9m7-2G9iWOC@fwd01.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, using a network is the standard for most broadband connections here in the U.S. Cable and DSL modems/router usually come with an ethernet port. There are exceptions, of course. Some cable modems exist as PCI or ISA cards and some DSL modems come with a USB port. I personally use my LX with my DSL service and it works really well with www/lx v.2. My downloaded mail seems to come at about 1M/minute. That's about as fast as your gonna get while accessing remote data. I've heard about the Powerline technology, BTW. I think it's great because it will create even more competition between the cable phone companies. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Stefan Peichl Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:26 AM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: PowerLine One reason, why it is a good idea to have a network card even if you don't have any use for it now is PowerLine. PowerLine is Internet out of the wall socket and not the telephone line. It just started in Germany in some regions, after the government issued a new law for legal reasons. PowerLine requires a PowerLine modem which is connected to the computer via a network card. A serial connection cannot be used because PowerLine works in the range of MegaBits. If PowerLine becomes a standard, and you want to use it on the Palmtop, you need a network card. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:10:51 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm new to eBay, but if I remember right, I thought, one could not bid on the palmtop? I didn't try the initial bid on the HP, but after my first bid I received a confirmation email through POST/LX and later another, that someone had put a higher bid. The second email contained a full URL to the subject I was bidding for. I used the grab function of POST/LX (key G) and appended the URL to HV.HOT. Then I entered HV, opened that URL from HV.HOT and increased my bid. It worked with no problem. Because I do all my email on the palmtop, this is a very convenient way of bidding fast on the HP from wherever I am. BTW: I'm informed by SMS about every new email I received. I think these tools (Palmtop, WWW/LX, SMS) are close to perfect for eBay stuff. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:58:22 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 2 Apr 2001 to 3 Apr 2001 (#2001-117) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Larry, in my (german) manual on page 4-34 there are listed some restrictions and limits. Maximum entries: abt 5000 (limited by diskspace) in my experience there must be another limit than diskspace, because I reached the limit several times and there was enough space free on my flash card. On 4 Apr 2001, at 19:33, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>I suspect that limit is for a 1 meg lx. Or possibly a 2 meg > >>one. But I'd put my money on the 1 meg model. > > I am pretty sure the limit is not imposed by disk space or even > available system memory but I cant remember what or where I got the > information to come to this conclusion from. I quickly scanned the dev > docs but didn't see anything anybody know this for sure? > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:58:22 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, The En2216-2 works on the LX, the -2 has abt double the current draw. It is on the current limit and you will need a AC adapter probably. !! There are different types of En2216-1 and -2 around. The new versions of En2216-1 and -2 do not work with the ethpcm.dos driver. This driver is needed for netbeui connections to a Win9X network, not for Tcpip, and Ipx connections. So check out first if your card is working with this driver. You can test the card with acctest.exe, it is for download on my homepage. (Links - HP-LX) If there is an error in Acctest.exe (run it on the palmtop) the card will not work for netbeui connections. Werner On 3 Apr 2001, at 8:03, Bryan Biggers wrote: > Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the > 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan > > Longden Loo wrote: > > > Most of the hits appear to be the same seller > > (http://gocomputershop.com/). > > > > If you check their website, they also have the card listed as a > > weekly special at the ebay listing price of $14.99. So that means > > it's better to just order it directly from their website than to bid > > against anyone on ebay. > > > > - Longden > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:58:22 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: LX case instability - normal? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Tamas, i have a 8MB and a 64 MB Hp LX, both are stable with flash card inserted, but only the 64MB is stable without. I would not buy the memory only for stability, but its worth the price if you need it for networking. Werner On 4 Apr 2001, at 14:46, Feher Tamas wrote: > Hello all, > My palmtop is nothing special AFAIK, two alkalines inserted, no PCMCIA > card in slot, all rubber legs in place. > > Is this normal for 200LX? This stability resembles Wasa. BTW, I know > OGO700LX had a support stick, which had to be tilted to right angle to > prevent capsize, when docked with 2110 GSM phone. > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:19:02 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Bluetooth basics Comments: cc: garzotto@acm.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently I talked about the Ericsson ROK 101 007 BT module as a candidate for internal use in the Palmtop. Now I know, that this module still needs a software driver in order to work, which means, it could only be used by applications which implement a protocol stack for this module, just like it has to be done for IrDA. Bluetooth (=3DBT) defines several layers. The following is a list of these layers required for BT over UART (serial port). The order is from top to bottom: -RFCOMM (Serial Port Emulation) -L2CAP (Logical Link Control and Adaptation Protocol) -HCI (Host Controller Interface) -Link Manager -Baseband The BT specification requires the layers L2CAP and RFCOMM to be implemeted in software, whereas the Link Manager and Baseband should be implemented in firmware. HCI is the interface between software and firmware. The Ericsson module behaves like specified: It has up to the HCI implemented in firmware, and the rest has to be done in software, that is, programmed on the Palmtop. This is indeed possible, but means, every application, which wants to take advantage of BT, has to have code for the L2CAP and RFCOMM layer. There is no way to write a general driver, which could be used by other (already available) applications, because usually, applications dealing with the serial port write directly to the port registers, and you cannot put a piece of code in between, like you could if interrupts were used, and a TSR could take over the interrupt. That means, the ideal solution for the Palmtop would be a BT module, which has up to the RFCOMM layer implemented in firmware. Then every application using the serial port could immediatly talk BT without any change of the code. If L2CAP is implemented in firmware, it is no longer flexible and cannot setup several BT links controlled by software. Instead it can only set up one individual link (point to point) There is also no way to select a baud rate on the HCI level. AFAIK, the only module currently available which has all layers in firmware is the RS232 converter of http://www.brainboxes.com It is just connected to the serial port of any (dumb) device. Probably more of these convertes will appear, but it is not very likely, because the BT white papers only require to implement up to HCI in firmware, and no producer wants to violate the BT specification :-( Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:29:26 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Schneider wrote: > What is SMS? it's an acronym for "Short Message System". Kind of email over mobile phones (GSM). It is the most popular data service availabe for GSM, much more popular than WAP (the mobile Internet). In Germany are 20 million of SMS send every month through GSM. If you think, how terrible the SMS protocol is, this is a major pollution of the environement ;-) Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:12:30 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: eBay on the Palmtop > Because I do all my email on the palmtop, this is a very > convenient way of bidding fast on the HP from wherever I am. FWIW, I was never able to win an ebay auction without either a T1 line or a DSL line (both from work). My phone connection from home was never fast enough to beat the other people waiting down the few minutes before the close of the auction . . . 0.02 Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:10:30 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop Comments: To: Domingo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use the following website for all of my eBay bidding. The advantage is that I am never committed until the very end and I do not have to count down the seconds until a particular auction is over for sniping purposes. http://www.esnipe.com/snipeit_info.asp There is info there on how to use it, but I will share a few points. From this website, you drag an icon into the url field and a form will appear. (You can also download a small program as an alternative way to use this site.) You then fill in your eBay user name, eBay pin, item number, maximum bid (proxy) and how many seconds before the auction deadline to have your bid submited. The only restiction is that you are locked in at 5 minutes before the end of the auction. One other thing for those of you who are new to eBay. All eBay bids are proxy bids. This simply means that no matter what your maximum bid is, only the amount necessary to outbid the other bidders is used. If all bidders at eBay understood this, sniping would not work. HTH, Cliff Crittenden -- On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:12:30 Domingo wrote: > >FWIW, I was never able to win an ebay auction without either a >T1 line or a DSL line (both from work). My phone connection >from home was never fast enough to beat the other people >waiting down the few minutes before the close of the auction >. . . Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:47:18 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: how much records per GDB? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I suspect that limit is for a 1 meg lx. Or possibly a 2 meg > > one. But I'd put my money on the 1 meg model. > > Did enyone ever write a system macro which is an endless loop that > creates dummy records? So one could find out the limit. > Create two macros. One which fills only a number field or so, and one > which fills another GDB file with a number field AND notes. > And run the script on a 1MB model, a 2MB model and a 96MB model! I am pretty certain the gdb size (appt, phone) is not dependent on the memory or megabyte model. They did not change software when they upped the memory. Those limits depend on factors other than 1/2 meg units. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:47:23 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of PCMCIA memory > card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will probably make the > purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( I believe you need an older 12volt card but don't recall the size limits but suspect it might be limited to a 10 possibly 20meg card, if not limited to SRAM cards (the ones that require batteries to maintain memory and were pricy and small). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:57:04 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop Comments: To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Crittenden" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop > I use the following website for all of my eBay bidding. The advantage is that I am never committed until the very end and I do not have to count down the seconds until a particular auction is over for sniping purposes. > http://www.esnipe.com/snipeit_info.asp Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it. > All eBay bids are proxy bids. This simply means that no matter what your maximum bid is, only the amount necessary to > outbid the other bidders is used. If all bidders at eBay understood this, sniping would not work. I did not know the term for this until now. Interesting. However, I think sniping is an attempt to get what you want at a reasonable price. In some auctions, if I see too many outbids before the close of the auction, I simply quit while the going is still good. Just like in real auctions, I believe some inexperienced or unscrupulous people drive prices up unnecessarily by bidding on items they have no intention of buying. I have seen items jump up at the last second by almost $100, only to see the same item relisted about a week or so later. Then there are people who will try to outbid people no matter what. For such I step aside, like the guy that was buying every hplx on ebay for a while. In such cases it is not worth trying. $0.02 Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:17:30 -0500 Reply-To: Randall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Randall Subject: LX Newbee In-Reply-To: <001901c0be56$07543d40$20696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi y'all I'm a proud owner of a new/used HP 200LX 1mb Palmtop and I must say I am very impressed with this unit. I've owned several Windows HPC's and PPC's and a few PalmPilots, still have a Palm IIIC. But I really like the HP 200LX more than any of the others. It's just plain fun and batteries seem to last a lot longer than the Windows CE things. I am using a 32mb Compact Flash card with an adapter for the PCMCIA slot that seems to work fine. Now I am in the stages of collecting software for the LX and would like some opinions on good usable software, shareware or other wise. Looking for .................. PIM's Database programs Spreadsheets Communications ( tried Telix but can't edit the autoexec.bat file ) E-Mail ect Any advise, please respond. thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:39:10 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:26:07 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > One reason, why it is a good idea to have a network card even > if you don't have any use for it now is PowerLine. > Ý...¨ Another reason is xDSL. A DSL modem also connects to the computer via network interface. Although I have not tried to connect the palmtop to the DSL line directly by now. At the moment I have configured my big Linux box to connect to DSL and masquerade IP so that all computers which connect to the Linux computer can use the DSL line indirectly. With that setup, I could theoretically set up a SLIP connection between the palmtop and the Linux box, and so I could connect the palmtop indirectly to the DSL line with a serial connection. The same should be possible for PowerLine. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:39:13 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: New list member MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Konstantin, On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:17:38 +0200, "Konstantin v. Witzleben" wrote: > As you already know I'm a very good friend of him and he made it Understatement! Not a "very good" one, but the best one! -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:52:16 +0200 Reply-To: Josef Meyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Josef Meyer Subject: Re: PowerLine Comments: To: Stefan Peichl MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you want to have more info about Powerline, have a look on http://www.ascom.com, then choose Products & Solutions, Powerline Communications. I believe this is the product used i Germany. Josef Stefan Peichl wrote: > One reason, why it is a good idea to have a network card even > if you don't have any use for it now is PowerLine. > > PowerLine is Internet out of the wall socket and not the > telephone line. It just started in Germany in some regions, > after the government issued a new law for legal reasons. > > PowerLine requires a PowerLine modem which is connected to > the computer via a network card. A serial connection cannot > be used because PowerLine works in the range of MegaBits. > > If PowerLine becomes a standard, and you want to use it on the > Palmtop, you need a network card. > > Stefan > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:31:00 +1200 Reply-To: Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cliff wrote: >I use the following website for all of my eBay bidding. The advantage is that I am never >committed until the very end and I do not have to count down the seconds until a particular >auction is over for sniping purposes. So that's how you outbid me for that PocketJet printer!!! ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:44:02 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:10:51 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > I'm new to eBay, but if I remember right, I thought, one could > not bid on the palmtop? I didn't try the initial bid on the HP, > but after my first bid I received a confirmation email through > POST/LX and later another, that someone had put a higher bid. > > The second email contained a full URL to the subject I was > bidding for. I used the grab function of POST/LX (key G) and > appended the URL to HV.HOT. Then I entered HV, opened that URL > from HV.HOT and increased my bid. It worked with no problem. Hm - I think the URL is the same you get when you search for that item, so getting there without the sent URL shouldn't be the problem. The initial bid itself also isn't in any way different from further bids, I think. So the initial bid shouldn't be a problem. WOW. I have never tried to bid with my palmtop, but if it really works... it would be indeed great! But be aware that maybe ebay.de and ebay.com are slightly different, maybe ebed.com uses ssecure connections and ebay.de doesn't? Such difference might be the reason that ebay.com doesn't work (doesn't it really?). I'll try the whole process soon and will report if it also works for me. > BTW: I'm informed by SMS about every new email I received. > I think these tools (Palmtop, WWW/LX, SMS) are close to perfect > for eBay stuff. Do you get the SMS _reliably_ a few seconds after the email arrived? I also get SMS notifications, but indirectly: GMX sends a notification email to the email account of my cell phone provider (E-Plus), which also offers internet access from the wired telephone network. And that email causes a notification SMS to my phone. This way I get everything for free. For a direct SMS from GMX to my phone I gad to pay. Thanks for the tip! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:44:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: LX Newbee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Randall, WELCOME to the list and to the palmtop community! On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:17:30 -0500, Randall wrote: > I'm a proud owner of a new/used HP 200LX 1mb Palmtop and I must say I am > very impressed with this unit. I've owned several Windows HPC's and PPC's > and a few PalmPilots, still have a Palm IIIC. But I really like the HP 200LX > more than any of the others. It's just plain fun and batteries seem to last > a lot longer than the Windows CE things. That's correct. It is a big disadvantage of all windows devices that they use so much battery. > I am using a 32mb Compact Flash card with an adapter for the PCMCIA slot > that seems to work fine. You can even get as high as a few hundered MB using compace flash or ATA flash cards. IBM's microdrives don't work though. They draw too much power. > Now I am in the stages of collecting software for the LX and would like > some opinions on good usable software, shareware or other wise. > PIM's > Database programs > Spreadsheets These are built-in. Didn't you find them yet or aren't they suitable for you? > Communications ( tried Telix but can't edit the autoexec.bat file ) > E-Mail I can recommend Goin' Postal for plain email. It's free. If you also need a newsgroups, telnet, ftp etc, LXTCP may be the right choice, it's also free. If you need simple web browsing in addition and prefer very convenient usage and setup, go for WWW/LX by D&A software. But that software is commercial (available on www.dasoft.com). For other software, begin at www.palmtop.net and browse the SUPER software database. I have several interesting links on my home page www.daniel-hertrich.de, scroll down to "interesting links"! Good luck! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:58:08 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: how much records per GDB? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Ý... GDB engine probing ...¨ > - if really the disk space limits the number of records The GDB structure contains a lookup table which is an index into the GDB file an can theoretically have 32K entries for database records. Database records can be anything like field descriptions, card descriptions, view point descriptions and most importantly: data records and notes records. Data records are just one kind of database records and notes records are also another one. This structure is documented quite well in this document: http://www.thaddeus.com/ftp/database/100gdb.zip or you can find an extracted copy here: http://falbala.wu-wien.ac.at:8684/pub/english.cgi/d27802/ The GDB engine in the HP-LX seems to have an arbitrary limitation for 5000 and a few more database records, so this results in the documented limits. This was copied from the FAQ: Q14: What are the limits of the Phone Book? = A: The Phone Book uses the same database engine as the Database application. Therefore, the limits for each applications are the same. This information is available in the User's Guide on page 4-30. = + Maximum size of a Phone Book file: Limited by the available disk space to hold it. = + Maximum number of records in a Phone Book file: 5020. = + Maximum number of data characters per text field: 1 =BD times the visible length, at least 10. = + Maximum number of data characters in a Note field: 32 KB, which is about 30 screens of data. = + Maximum number of choices in a Category field: 32 choices or 255 total characters. = + Maximum number of fields per database: 99 fields. (May be fewer with longer fields) = + Maximum number of pages in a database: 4 pages (screens) per database. = + Maximum number of subsets in a database: 16. = + Maximum number of Category and Note fields per database: 1 of each per database. = Article ID: TECH20014 = This was in the FAQ at (but the link is now broken) = http://hpcc920.external.hp.com/handheld/getting_help/support/palmtops/200= lx_faq.html Since the Phone Book application and the other DB applications, especially the Database and Notetaker application are very similar, I assume that this limitation applies there as well. > the 96MB model could take 5000*96 ~=3D 500,000 records, Ý...¨ Sorry, I do not understand this calculation. Do you want to imply, that the 5000 records limitation only exists per 1 MB disk space? The size of a GDB/PDB/NDB file can be quite large, but it can't contain more than 32K database records or otherwise the GDB structure would break *AND* it can't contain more than 5000 records or otherwise the GDB engine would fail. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:16:18 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Ed and Stefan, on 5 Apr 2001, at 17:02 Ed Padin wrote about: Re: PowerLine > > I've heard about the Powerline technology, BTW. I think it's great > because it will create even more competition between the cable phone > companies. > From the point of view of a radio amateur and a short wave listener the Power line technology seems to have a major adverse side effect. It is jamming the frequencies and I have heard, that no HF radio reception is possible in a certain range around the power lines. The DSL technology does not have this problem, (because the lines are symmetric and dont radiate I think) The PLC technology in my opinion is too slow for future needs and I think it would be better not to invest in such a technology. Siemens for example has stopped its engagement in PLC lately. Werner OE9FWV -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:37:59 -0400 Reply-To: Yuriy Kovalenko Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yuriy Kovalenko Subject: Re: LX Newbee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello there. Just go to here http://www.palmtop.net/supercat.html Hope that helps! -Yuriy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:21:12 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Blue dream 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Look here: Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:45:06 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: LX Newbee Comments: To: Randall In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Now I am in the stages of collecting software for the LX and would like >>some opinions on good usable software, shareware or other wise. >>Looking for .................. >>PIM's >>Database programs >>Spreadsheets >>Communications ( tried Telix but can't edit the autoexec.bat file ) >>E-Mail you will find any dos program that can run on a 186 will run on the lx. I am sure people here will chime in with their favorites, I use the built in apps for appts and phone book. you should be able to edit config.sys and autoecex.bat with memo just copy the built in ones from the d drive over to the c drive or just create your own on the c drive and they will be used instead of the ones on the d drive ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:42:59 +0200 Reply-To: Luettjohann@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stephan =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=FCttjohann?= Subject: Re: Palmtop Thermometer Comments: To: Jorgen Wallgren MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jorgen! I have no problems to connect to the server! Probably try http://www.eddy.uni-duisburg.de/stephan and then click on HP Palmtop and then on Thermometer Info or directly http://www.eddy.uni-duisburg.de/stephan/thermo.htm (it's case sensitive) The site requires java! Please let me know, if the problem still is present! Regards, Stephan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:29:00 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: March Logs Updated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:28:54 -0500 (EST) Subject says it all ;-) Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:05:25 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: LX Newbee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Randall, << Now I am in the stages of collecting software for the LX and would like some opinions on good usable software, shareware or other wise.>> Check out our web site at www.PalmtopPaper.com. There you will find 9 years of our magazine devoted to the HP 200LX online. You will also find a number of software and accessory items for your 200LX, including are CD Infobase, which contains over 1000 software items and a rich knowledgebase. Hal Goldstein President Thaddeus Computing www.PalmtopPaper.com and www.PocketPCmag.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:33:38 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Brand new HP 200LX's for sale Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone, I have some good news and some not quite so good news: The good news -- we have late serial numbered brand new HP 200LX's for sale. The not quite so good news -- we are charging premium prices for them. We have had several hundred of these units in stock for several weeks and have sold many of them in quantity already to companies that need them. We expect them all to be gone within a month or two if not sooner --- there are several pending large order sales. Since we are confident they will sell soon, we are not announcing it in our next catalog, and haven't even put it up on our web site. We decided the next step was to offer it to this list. If they don't all sell this month, we'll probably put it up on our web site. We are charging a premium because 1) we paid a lot for them and it was a big outlay of cash 2) we believe that the demand in the market will justify this pricing. Some of the new machines (all the 4MB) are in the original packaging. The other machines are new, but don't come with the box or manuals. Below are our prices. DS is double speed (optional). The 2MB and 4MB units come directly from HP. The higher memory will be original units upgraded by us, Thaddeus Computing, www.PalmtopPaper.com. We will warranty these units for 1 year. $75 makes it into 2 years. In original packaging with manuals: 2MB 650 2MB DS 675 4MB 700 4MB DS 750 6MB DS 800 8MB DS 850 32MB DS 1050 64MB DS 1325 Without box or manuals 2MB 600 2MB DS 625 6MB DS 750 8MB DS 800 32MB DS 1000 64MB DS 1275 If you wish to order, email Wayne Kneeskern, mailto:wayne@thaddeus.com, or call 800 373 6114 or 641 472 6330, fax: 641 472 1879. We can take credit card. Hal Goldstein, President Thaddeus Computing www.PalmtopPaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:53:54 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: LX Newbee Comments: To: Randall In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall Welcome aboard! A truly classic PIM for the palmtop is lotus agenda available on SUPER very instructive for a play however the HP200 monospeed is probably a little slow for it. However, I use the appt and phone apps straight out of the box because they have stood the test of time and they utilise the alarm. I use MS Project, MS Word 5.5, Wordsearch, and Vertical Reader (for e-books) on my HP200LX You might want to check the archives as well... Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Friday, 6 April 2001 17:18 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: LX Newbee Hi y'all I'm a proud owner of a new/used HP 200LX 1mb Palmtop and I must say I am very impressed with this unit. I've owned several Windows HPC's and PPC's and a few PalmPilots, still have a Palm IIIC. But I really like the HP 200LX more than any of the others. It's just plain fun and batteries seem to last a lot longer than the Windows CE things. I am using a 32mb Compact Flash card with an adapter for the PCMCIA slot that seems to work fine. Now I am in the stages of collecting software for the LX and would like some opinions on good usable software, shareware or other wise. Looking for .................. PIM's Database programs Spreadsheets Communications ( tried Telix but can't edit the autoexec.bat file ) E-Mail ect Any advise, please respond. thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:42:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The limit on Flash RAM cards would be 32MB, imposed by DOS 3.22. SanDisk says (or said, see below) the following series of cards will work in the 95LX (with driver software): SDP5-X, SDPL5-X, and SDP5A-X (where X is the card size in MB). (I just went to the SanDisk web site to check their faq, and they have changed their site -- I can no longer find the info on using the cards with the LX :-( I do believe the SDP cards are 3V or 5V, however.) As to SRAM cards, Thaddeus has 1.5MB cards for 5/$25 :-) -----Original Message----- From: F. Kaufman Ýmailto:fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET¨ Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:47 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) > I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of PCMCIA memory > card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will probably make the > purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( I believe you need an older 12volt card but don't recall the size limits but suspect it might be limited to a 10 possibly 20meg card, if not limited to SRAM cards (the ones that require batteries to maintain memory and were pricy and small). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:58:26 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham In-Reply-To: <003601c0bda9$78dc4c80$3f5cef9b@new.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel Act! for palmtops was not y2k compliant so that's why I ditched it. I use the appt application to do my contact management now. Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Nigel Rotherham Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 20:22 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Greetings (again!) from sunny South Africa :-) Sorry if any duplication as I have sent the same msg to another address (david@HPLX.NET ) after 1st attempt 'bounced' but now that I appear to be 'subscribed' here is my plea for HELP! Believe it or not but I am very happy using my old HP95 and have recently installed ACT! for palmtops. What I am in need of is some form of 'User Guide' or 'other' helpful information. Can anyone assist or point me to a site where such info / documents can be downloaded? I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of PCMCIA memory card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will probably make the purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( Many thanks in advance. Best regards Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:09:12 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought someone mentioned testing Act! and finding that after February 28th/29th, 2000, the program was working just fine. Apparently no one ever found out why, even thought Symantec did say it was not Y2K compliant. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Kan" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) > Nigel > Act! for palmtops was not y2k compliant so that's why I > ditched it. I use the appt application to do my contact > management now. > Cheers > Tony. > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On > Behalf Of > Nigel Rotherham > Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 20:22 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) > > > Greetings (again!) from sunny South Africa :-) > > Sorry if any duplication as I have sent the same msg to > another address > (david@HPLX.NET ) after 1st attempt > 'bounced' but now that I > appear to be 'subscribed' here is my plea for HELP! > > Believe it or not but I am very happy using my old HP95 and > have recently > installed ACT! for palmtops. What I am in need of is some > form of 'User > Guide' or 'other' helpful information. Can anyone assist or > point me to a > site where such info / documents can be downloaded? > > I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of > PCMCIA memory > card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will > probably make the > purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( > > Many thanks in advance. > > Best regards > > Nigel R > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:30:58 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Text filters, how to detect a digit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am trying to work with a large text file (2megs) to make it usable in electronic form. One thing I am planning to do to reformat it is to remove all hard returns, and in the resulting mess I would like to put a hard return in front of every number (it's a kind of a database). This will make many formating mistakes, but I think it will be easier to fix those mistakes than to try to format the whole file by hand. The question is, what program or utility can detect numbers (as opossed to letters) in order to automatically add the hard returns? I don't recall seeing anything like this in the old Garbo site, which had a rich selection of text filters. Any suggestions? BTW, before you suggest I write a Perl script, aside from batch files, I cannot program my way out of a paper bag. :-) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:46:46 -0400 Reply-To: isobar@BCPL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kirk Subject: Rechargeables? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have always used plain alkalines in my unmodified 200 LX without problem. But I just got a few of sets of rechargeable NiCads & NiMH (both 1200 & 1600 mah varieties) for other purposes and I'm wondering whether to use them in the LX, too. There's no question about how to use the NiCads since the manual and internal battery software support them. But is there an advantage of using the NiMHs, and if so how to use them? I could: Use them exactly as the alkaline, taking them out & recharging when they die. Recharge them in place in the LX using the native NiCad setup Download something from SUPER to manage them if it exists - haven't checked I've checked the archives of the Palmtop paper and it's not clear if there is a consensus on what to do. Any advice? Bob Kirk ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:39:34 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Bluetooth basics MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:19:02 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > AFAIK, the only module currently available which has all layers > in firmware is the RS232 converter of > > http://www.brainboxes.com It seems so. I sent an email to brainboxes already (about one week ago), but didn't get a reply yet. :-( Maybe you could also ask a few technical questions about their device, if I'm not the only one they could become interested. I recommend that you mention the international community which could be interested in just their product. This could make them hot ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:17:46 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Kirk wrote: > I have always used plain alkalines in my unmodified 200 LX without > problem. But I just got a few of sets of rechargeable NiCads & NiMH (both > 1200 & 1600 mah varieties) for other purposes and I'm wondering whether to > use them in the LX, too. I always use Lithium batteries because in New England it gets well below 32 degrees and from what I understand Lithiums are the only solution that will tolerate temps below 32 degrees. (Yes they are move expensive but I have found no alternative). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 13:26:08 -0600 Reply-To: Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: FindLX and numbers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was using FindLX to look for some info today and came across a curious problem. I wanted to find an entry listed as 04/06/2000. FindLX came back with the comment "No matches found for ''." I dug around and found the file, then searched for a word string in that file. FindLX found it, no problem. I then tried to find "3%", which also appeared in the text, and got the same "No matches found for ''." message. Although looking for "and 3%" worked, it couldn't find "3% of the". I looked at the docs and the stop list and didn't see any mention of not being able to search for numbers. Am I missing something or does searching for just numbers not work with FindLX? Thanks, Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 05:34:38 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Rechargeables? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010406123411.01bd6720@mail.bcpl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" But I just got a few of sets of rechargeable NiCads & NiMH (both >1200 & 1600 mah varieties) for other purposes and I'm wondering whether to >use them in the LX, too. > Recharge them in place in the LX using the native NiCad setup Hi Bob & list I've been using 1600 Nimh in my LX now for a couple of years no problems. I recall there has been some discussion regards heat buildup in the LX so charge with the LX open for heat disipation. Also tried some charging software but now dont use it as I charge regularly and it therefore made little difference to my routine. NB make sure backup battery is replaced often and you keep a set of fresh alkalines on hand as NimH have a steep voltage drop at the end of the charge. ie a matter of minutes from first low battery warning. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:56:43 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <002201c0beb7$049f1140$20696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only other utility that I can think of to do this is sed, but it is so cryptic that Perl would actually be easier for you. Maybe you can do this with lxbatch? -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Domingo snipt resulting mess I would like to put a hard return in front of every number (it's a kind of a database). This will make many formating mistakes, but I think it will be easier to fix those mistakes than to try to format the whole file by hand. The question is, what program or utility can detect numbers (as opossed to letters) in order to automatically add the hard returns? I don't recall seeing anything like this in the old Garbo site, which had a rich selection of text filters. Any suggestions? BTW, before you suggest I write a Perl script, aside from batch files, I cannot program my way out of a paper bag. :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:58:00 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: LX Newbee Comments: To: Randall MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Looking for .................. > PIM's As Daniel noted, there is a terrific PIM built-in. All those keys along the top row Memo, appt, phone, 123, quicken, etc. To load the module that contains the appt, phone, database, etc, at a DOS prompt enter: 200 (ENTER) > Database programs There one built-in (see above) or use dbaseII, or others. > Spreadsheets Lotus' 123 is built in (see above) > Communications ( tried Telix but can't edit the autoexec.bat file ) If you MOVE both config.sys and autoexec.bat to the A: or c: drive, you can edit to your hearts' content. > E-Mail I use www/lx (see www.DAsoft.com) and others nettamer or goin' postal. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:06:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Erling, Marshall N" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Erling, Marshall N" Subject: FlashRAM in a 95LX ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Greetings fellow Palmtop Fans, I've got an 8mb compact flash card in a PCMCIA adapter that I use in my 200LX. Is it possible to get the 95LX to utilize this card given that it was designed with the older PCMCIA ver 1? Thanks! Marshall ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:33:49 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY In-Reply-To: "Dr. Werner Furlan"'s message of "Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:58:22 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > !! There are different types of En2216-1 and -2 around. > The new versions of En2216-1 and -2 do not work with the ethpcm.dos > driver. This driver is needed for netbeui connections to a Win9X > network, not for Tcpip, and Ipx connections. So check out first if > your card is working with this driver. You can test the card with > acctest.exe, it is for download on my homepage. (Links - HP-LX) > If there is an error in Acctest.exe (run it on the palmtop) the card > will not work for netbeui connections. Thanks. I just bought three of these cards from www.gocomputershop.com (two -1 and one -2), installed one of the -1s in my 200LX, downloaded acctest.exe (with the help of a nearby notebook PC), and successfully ran it on my 200LX with the card installed. What I received are Accton EN2216-1-J1 "Ether-Pair PCMCIA" and Accton EN2216-2-J1 "Ether-Duo PCMCIA" cards in retail packaging. Each carton contains: (a) PCMCIA Ethernet card (the one I'm looking at now has a sticker on top with what appears to be a part number 146113-002, and a bar-code sticker on its underside, "814000352 EN2216-1-J1 245226-101"), in a Tyvek envelope (b) RJ45 dongle (RJ45 + coax dongle in the -2 box) (c) clip-on ferrite doohickey (d) 90mm stiffy, Driver Diskette for DOS/V PCMCIA Card Ver 1.03J, Accton p/n 146994-008 (e) 90mm stiffy, Driver Diskette for NEC PCMCIA Card Ver 1.02J, Accton p/n 146908-008 I gather these cards were intended for the Japanese market; certainly the readme.txt file on (d) is full of bytes with the high bit set (i.e. it's mostly not English, save for brand names and configuration file keywords). Ah, yes, there we go, release.txt on (d) states (in English) that V1.03J is a Japanese Localization release of 04/11/96. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:04:36 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? In-Reply-To: <018601c0be9c$731140a0$162fa8c0@2fkft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:21:12 +0200 Feher Tamas a =E9crit: > Nice picture !=20 But can _you_ translate the text ? Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:35:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: To: isobar@BCPL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using two sets of 1500mAH NiMH's for a couple of years with no problems. I swap cells in the LX, put the old ones in a charger designed for NiCads for the time that it takes to pump in 1.4 times the rated capacity. Sometimes I forget and leave them charging for a day or more. After two years I have not noticed any degradation but have not carefully checked performance either. I swap every two weeks whether they need it or not. Bob Robert Kirk wrote: > > > Use them exactly as the alkaline, taking them out & recharging when > they die. -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:40:37 -0700 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY Comments: To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So are these the recommended (latest firmware?) ones despite the manuals or are they older units? Recommend or no? Bob Frank McConnell wrote: > > (a) PCMCIA Ethernet card (the one I'm looking at now has a sticker on > top with what appears to be a part number 146113-002, and a bar-code > sticker on its underside, "814000352 EN2216-1-J1 245226-101"), in a > Tyvek envelope > > (b) RJ45 dongle (RJ45 + coax dongle in the -2 box) > > (c) clip-on ferrite doohickey > > (d) 90mm stiffy, Driver Diskette for DOS/V PCMCIA Card Ver 1.03J, > Accton p/n 146994-008 > > (e) 90mm stiffy, Driver Diskette for NEC PCMCIA Card Ver 1.02J, > Accton p/n 146908-008 > > I gather these cards were intended for the Japanese market; certainly > the readme.txt file on (d) is full of bytes with the high bit set > (i.e. it's mostly not English, save for brand names and configuration > file keywords). Ah, yes, there we go, release.txt on (d) states (in > English) that V1.03J is a Japanese Localization release of 04/11/96. -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:47:39 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Ed, On 5 Apr 2001, at 17:02, Ed Padin wrote: > > I've heard about the Powerline technology, BTW. I think it's great > because it will create even more competition between the cable phone > companies. > from the point of view of a radio amateur and short wave listener the powerline technology is probably a pain, because it produces HF noise and it is said that short wave reception is heavily impaired or nearly impossible around the powerlines. In my opinion it has no future, data rates are too low for future needs and I think efforts should go to establish more efficient data lines. It was reported that Siemens has already stopped the cooperation in the german powerline test phase. Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:02:53 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It kind of looks like an anodized aluminum case. Interesting. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Belin" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? Le Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:21:12 +0200 Feher Tamas a icrit: > Nice picture ! But can _you_ translate the text ? Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:29:59 -0400 Reply-To: Yuriy Kovalenko Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yuriy Kovalenko Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It kind of looks like an anodized aluminum case. Interesting. I think, I'm gonna paint mine like this! Some good spray paint and that should work, I suppose. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:44:30 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Brand new HP 200LX's for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hal Goldstein wrote: > The not quite so good news -- we are charging premium prices for them. Actually, in an odd sort of way, that's good news too. It's good to know that the 200LX is still valued enough to justify top prices. It means I'm not backing a dead horse. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:44:36 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London wrote: > I always use Lithium batteries because in New England it gets well below 32 > degrees and from what I understand Lithiums are the only solution that > will tolerate temps below 32 degrees. You leave your LX where it gets that cold?! I keep mine with me and I avoid extreme cold for myself for any length of time. Pretty easy to do in San Jose, California. :-) I use to use Lithiums but recently switched to inexpensive alkalines bought in bulk from Costco. They don't last quite as long but they're much cheaper and die much more gradually. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:44:40 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Domingo wrote: > Hello. I am trying to work with a large text file (2megs) to > make it usable in electronic form. One thing I am planning to > do to reformat it is to remove all hard returns, and in the > resulting mess I would like to put a hard return in front of > every number (it's a kind of a database). I've found REXX to be a useful, if slow, language for filtering and reformatting txt files. It's designed for novice programmers and isn't cryptic like most anything from a Unix derived system. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:13:55 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a quick question for you guys... I use my pcmcia slot profusely. With the constant wear and tear on the pins, I'm wondering if I'm setting myself up for a hardware failure. Are those pins really durable or should I try to minimize my card swaps? Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:14:04 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY In-Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer"'s message of "Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:40:37 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > So are these the recommended (latest firmware?) ones despite > the manuals or are they older units? Recommend or no? LXCIC says the one I am playing with is: ACCTON EN2216-PCMCIA-ETHERNET EN2216 R02 ADR=0300 COR=60 FCSR=00 BASE=01FC ID=06 I'm afraid I haven't paid close attention to the reports of success and failure using these in the LX, and am still trawling through the archives, so don't really know what is recommended or not. And there were no manuals with these cards, just the diskettes. All I can say (so far) is that acctest.exe from Dr. Werner Furlan's site ran successfully with this card installed in my 200LX and connected to a network. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 22:22:21 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? Comments: To: Jacques Belin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI this site will translate many popular languages to/from english. http://world.altavista.com/tr HTH, Cliff Crittenden -- On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:04:36 Jacques Belin wrote: >Le Fri, 6 Apr 2001 15:21:12 +0200 >Feher Tamas a icrit: > >> > >Nice picture ! > >But can _you_ translate the text ? > > >Jacques. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:48:00 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? In-Reply-To: <002201c0beb7$049f1140$20696c40@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:30 PM 4/6/01 -0400, Domingo wrote: >Hello. I am trying to work with a large text file (2megs) to >make it usable in electronic form. One thing I am planning to >do to reformat it is to remove all hard returns, and in the >resulting mess I would like to put a hard return in front of >every number (it's a kind of a database). This will make many >formating mistakes, but I think it will be easier to fix those >mistakes than to try to format the whole file by hand. The >question is, what program or utility can detect numbers (as >opossed to letters) in order to automatically add the hard >returns? I don't recall seeing anything like this in the old >Garbo site, which had a rich selection of text filters. >Any suggestions? BTW, before you suggest I write a Perl >script, aside from batch files, I cannot program my way out of >a paper bag. :-) > One work around alternative is to load your large text file into a text editor, and after you have removed all the hard returns, then use the search-and-replace function to search for 1 (you will need to press space bar before the number to distinguish it from digits that occur elsewhere in a number string), and replace with hard-return-ascii-code followed by 1. You just need to repeat the process 9 other times with the other number digits to get the job done. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:03:03 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Rechargeables? In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20010406123411.01bd6720@mail.bcpl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, There are several battery charging software available on the S.U.P.E.R site at http://www.palmtop.net/super.html that will allow you to monitor and control the charging process. I am using Peniel Romanelli's CHARGE-IT! It is OK and recommended to use and charge NiMHs in the 200LX. They have higher capacity and less memory effect over NiCads. Though the 200LX has only a setting for NiCad, that setting can be used for NiMH as well. What AC adaptor are you using? Please note that polarity has to be correct: plus outside, minus inside (see diagram on bottom of 200LX). The HP adaptor for the 100/200LX has regulated output of 12volt at 0.75A. At 12:46 PM 4/6/01 -0400, Robert Kirk wrote: >I have always used plain alkalines in my unmodified 200 LX without >problem. But I just got a few of sets of rechargeable NiCads & NiMH (both >1200 & 1600 mah varieties) for other purposes and I'm wondering whether to >use them in the LX, too. > >There's no question about how to use the NiCads since the manual and >internal battery software support them. But is there an advantage of using >the NiMHs, and if so how to use them? I could: > > Use them exactly as the alkaline, taking them out & recharging when >they die. > > Recharge them in place in the LX using the native NiCad setup > > Download something from SUPER to manage them if it exists - haven't checked > >I've checked the archives of the Palmtop paper and it's not clear if there >is a consensus on what to do. > >Any advice? > >Bob Kirk > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:52:42 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Rechargeables? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010407053438.00801100@powerup.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:34 AM 4/7/01 +1000, Russell Hemery wrote: > >NB make sure backup battery is replaced often and you keep a set of fresh >alkalines on hand as NimH have a steep voltage drop at the end of the >charge. ie a matter of minutes from first low battery warning. > The backup battery needs to be changed at most once a year, unless your main batteries frequently run low. I use a 416 byte BAT.COM from Jorgen Dybdahl's Charging (available at SUPER site), which when activated, will show the state (in percentages) of your main and backup batteries in the LX. According to BAT.COM, the backup battery is considered low when it reaches 92%. Mine has remained at 99% strength after almost a year. There is also a way to show the main battery voltage in the F1 spot of your Filer and other applications. To do it, just download VOLT/LX from http://www.dasoft.com/ ,and copy abctsr.com to your palmtop, and have a line in your palmtop's autoexec.bat which says abctsr It serves as a useful visual reminder, and I find that the low battery warning kicks in when the main batteries reaches a low of 2.30 volts. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:08:11 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <001b01c0beb3$ee8e4ae0$20696c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's annoying because I threw it out after finding out that it wasn't y2k compliant. I'm sure I noticed that after leap day all the days were out by one. Cheers A very shocked Tony. -----Original Message----- From: Domingo Ýmailto:dvm123@gmx.co.uk¨ Sent: Saturday, 7 April 2001 04:09 To: Tony Kan; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) I thought someone mentioned testing Act! and finding that after February 28th/29th, 2000, the program was working just fine. Apparently no one ever found out why, even thought Symantec did say it was not Y2K compliant. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Kan" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:58 AM Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) > Nigel > Act! for palmtops was not y2k compliant so that's why I > ditched it. I use the appt application to do my contact > management now. > Cheers > Tony. > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On > Behalf Of > Nigel Rotherham > Sent: Thursday, 5 April 2001 20:22 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) > > > Greetings (again!) from sunny South Africa :-) > > Sorry if any duplication as I have sent the same msg to > another address > (david@HPLX.NET ) after 1st attempt > 'bounced' but now that I > appear to be 'subscribed' here is my plea for HELP! > > Believe it or not but I am very happy using my old HP95 and > have recently > installed ACT! for palmtops. What I am in need of is some > form of 'User > Guide' or 'other' helpful information. Can anyone assist or > point me to a > site where such info / documents can be downloaded? > > I would also like to inquire about availability and cost of > PCMCIA memory > card(s) for HP95 although our lousy exchange rate will > probably make the > purchase (even if second-hand) prohibitive... :-( > > Many thanks in advance. > > Best regards > > Nigel R > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:45:01 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cliff Crittenden ably wrote: > FYI this site will translate many popular languages to/from english. > > http://world.altavista.com/tr It did... http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~wq6h-tkj/machines/hp200lx.htm seems to be explaining how to use a paint from model (airplanes?) for the purpose. Included are instructions for disassembling too. It is very hard to read, but then, you still get a good sense of the content. Thank you for the URL. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:48:28 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: how much records per GDB? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gerhard, On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:58:08 +0200, Gerhard Gonter wrote: > > the 96MB model could take 5000*96 ~= 500,000 records, Ý...¨ > > Sorry, I do not understand this calculation. Do you want to imply, > that the 5000 records limitation only exists per 1 MB disk space? Oops, sorry. Of course that calculation was wrong. I started with the information, that on a 1 Meg machine you can have 5000 GDB entries, as someone posted. But of these 1MB, only 384kB are used as disk space. So the correct calculation would be (not caring about all the little _dat files which eat up a little bit of the disk space): 69MB / 384kB ~= 256 so a 96 meg machine would take 256 * 5000 = 1.280.000 entries, which would take 2 weeks to create automatically. This was only a theoretical experiment. Don't take is too seriously. ;-) But the automatic generation of GDB entries via system macro would indeed show the limit on a very simple way. When I have spare time, I'll set up such a macro and run it on one of my backup LXs. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:12:28 -0500 Reply-To: Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to use the NiCads and NiMHs in my 200LX but it's hard to tell when they're about to give out. If I used my 200LX consistently I could periodically replace them on a fixed schedule. But I use my 200LX very sporadically, sometimes only 5 minutes a day and sometimes for hours a day, so it's hard to tell when to replace them. I went back to using cheap alkalines from IKEA, the yellow ones by Varta in the yellow box, and have had good luck with these. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:30:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable By chance I found a text only eBay interface: http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com or http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.de It offers only the most important features, like -search -search for item number -login -my eBay -bid It is fast, because only a few thousand bytes are transferred and it works with HV. Could be ideal for the HP, but HV refuses to transmit a search string or login data with "The resulting URL is too long for HV" That's a pity. Probably only the URL buffer of HV had to be extended by a few bytes and we could have the whole eBay on the Palmtop. I wish D&A would consider this tiny improvement. But I know, they will not :-( I came across this text only interface by using Opera on the desktop. If you enter www.ebay.de in Opera, it is automatically rerouted to the catalyst.2roam.com site. This does not happen if you use IE or Netscape. It must be eBay, which checks the browser you are using, and offers different portals according to the browser. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:55:58 +0100 Reply-To: Norbert_Giese@T-Online.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Norbert Giese Subject: Re: Problem with LXTCP/DOSPPP Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, in a similar situation I found that I could add several nameserver=x.x.x.x statements in the CFG file of LXTCP. That helped to overcome a problem at my ISP's side. They gave me several DNS addresses, but did not admit a problem :-( John Musielewicz wrote: > > I just started having a problem with dosppp. For some > reason it will > not allow me to access my mail server when I use the standard DNS > numbers provided by my ISP. I have to use alternate DNS numbers > used by the DSL server provided for DSL users. My ISP claims not to > have changed any software but Dosppp has given me no trouble since > I've been using it, many moons ago. -- Norbert Giese, A.Stifter-Weg 10, 71116 Gaertringen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:13:41 -0500 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gee, can I get one in camo, so if I drop it in the woods, I'll never find it? David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:42:47 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? Comments: To: "David R. Birch" In-Reply-To: <3ACF1285.1728055D@execpc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I imagine you could airbrush it in camo... Is anyone an expert in Photoshop? You could render it to see how it would look!!! Mike... > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > David R. Birch > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:14 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: Blue dream 200LX? > > > Gee, can I get one in camo, so if I drop it in the woods, I'll never > find it? > > David > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:47:25 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: connectivity pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For LX 100/200 brand new $10 +? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1226254887 Yor pal al............. ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:57:29 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: > from the point of view of a radio amateur and short wave listener the > powerline technology is probably a pain, because it produces HF noise > and it is said that short wave reception is heavily impaired or > nearly impossible around the powerlines. Since most streets in the U.S. have power lines, where if anywhere could it be used???? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:06:54 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: text only eBay Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <14lrrQ-0ICWiOC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you tried it using the older text only browser, Lynx? > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Stefan Peichl > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:31 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: text only eBay > > > By chance I found a text only eBay interface: > > http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com > > or > > http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.de > > It offers only the most important features, like > > -search > -search for item number > -login > -my eBay > -bid > > It is fast, because only a few thousand bytes are transferred > and it works with HV. Could be ideal for the HP, but HV refuses > to transmit a search string or login data with > > "The resulting URL is too long for HV" > > That's a pity. Probably only the URL buffer of HV had to be > extended by a few bytes and we could have the whole eBay on > the Palmtop. I wish D&A would consider this tiny improvement. > But I know, they will not :-( > > I came across this text only interface by using Opera on the > desktop. If you enter www.ebay.de in Opera, it is automatically > rerouted to the catalyst.2roam.com site. This does not happen > if you use IE or Netscape. It must be eBay, which checks the > browser you are using, and offers different portals according > to the browser. > > Stefan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:12:02 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: cc: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: <200104071439.WAA75171@venus.post1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:37 PM 4/7/01 +0000, Russel Brooks wrote: >> >> According to BAT.COM, the backup >> battery is considered low when it reaches 92%. Mine has remained at 99% >> strength after almost a year. > >Are these programs only checking the Voltage, without load, of >the backup battery? If so that isn't the most accurate measure >of capacity (IMO). For under $2USD it's cheap enough to change >every 4-6 months and give me a better feeling of safety. > I am not sure about the technical specs of BAT.COM For the main batteries, BAT.COM rate them as low at 77%, and this percentage agrees with the level at which the palmtop gives a low battery warning. The palmtop also gives a warning when the backup battery is low. I guess that Jorgen Dybdahl, the author of Charging (and BAT.COM), would have ascertained that low level to be 92%. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:19:37 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > You leave your LX where it gets that cold?! I keep mine with me > and I avoid extreme cold for myself for any length of time. > Pretty easy to do in San Jose, California. :-) No it stays in the house with me but in order get anywhere I have to go outside where it gets exposed to cold weather (and here in New England winter lasts forever). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:36:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:52:42 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > The backup battery needs to be changed at most once a year, unless your > main batteries frequently run low. Several months ago i reported that I found an old (probaalby 2 or 3 years old) CR2032 battery in my cellar. And when I inserted it into the LX the voltage of that battery was 3.08V. The battery is still in the LX, the main batteries were removed for about 15min during a repair some weeks ago, and the bachup battery still shows up with 3.02V in LXPRO!! So: Buy CR2032s, store them for a few years before you use them, and you'll get more out of them! ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:11:14 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I use my pcmcia slot profusely. With the constant wear and tear on the pins, > I'm wondering if I'm setting myself up for a hardware failure. Are those > pins really durable or should I try to minimize my card swaps? I haven't heard of many (any) list members with a PCMCIA damaged pin problem. OTOH, I swapped my flash and modems cards daily a few years back, before I noticed that the spring-loaded door on the slot was broken (no longer dropped back into place). So I think at least one concern for high-swappers will be that door. Purely cosmetic, of course, tho I now leave my flash card in the slot all the time, and connect to an external modem via the serial cable (so of course, the serial pins are now waiting to break), but that move was motivated partly by a similar concern (as yours) about the PCMCIA pins. I decided that an LX with damaged serial pins was much more usuable than one with broken PCMCIA pins, so I moved the risk accordingly. The broken door spring is mostly a concern for those wanting to keep their units pristine, possibly for future sales or trades. Mine just matches the rubber-band latch and the super-glued lid crack. Part of the charm of being an LX owner . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:32:07 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: how much records per GDB? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 7 Apr 2001 07:48:28 +0200 Daniel Hertrich a =E9crit: > so a 96 meg machine would take 256 * 5000 =3D 1.280.000 entries, > which would take 2 weeks to create automatically. Perhaps, but I am pretty sure most of teh variable in the program are coded as integers. Then, I think you are anyway limited to 32767 entries, or 65535 if you are very lucky... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:32:09 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: PowerLine In-Reply-To: <3ACE63AB.332.10B11B5@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:47:39 +0200 "Dr. Werner Furlan" a =E9crit: > from the point of view of a radio amateur and short wave listener the > powerline technology is probably a pain, because it produces HF noise > and it is said that short wave reception is heavily impaired or > nearly impossible around the powerlines. If I remember, the first "real world" experimentation was two/three years ago in Great Britain. They stopped almost immediately, because all lights pods in the streets acted as antennas... Perhaps the germans have found an improvment. But is it really sufficient, I don't think. Well, I am sure the NSA will find that technology very convenient . Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 13:48:09 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl wrote: > > By chance I found a text only eBay interface: > > http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com > > I'm worried that this might not be secure, it looks like some unofficial kind of shell over ebay. I would not want to put my password in to this without more information. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:18:45 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: text only eBay In-Reply-To: <3ACF60E9.AD0F401B@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Bryan Biggers wrote: > Stefan Peichl wrote: > > > > By chance I found a text only eBay interface: > > > > http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com > > > > > > I'm worried that this might not be secure, it looks like some > unofficial kind of shell over ebay. I would not want to put my > password in to this without more information. Bryan Try this url and see where you end up. http://mmm.ebay.com You could also check the www.2roam.com website. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 21:39:45 +0200 Reply-To: "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: FindLX and numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don, > I was using FindLX to look for some info today and came across a = curious > problem. I wanted to find an entry listed as 04/06/2000. FindLX came = back > with the comment "No matches found for ''." > > I dug around and found the file, then searched for a word string in = that > file. FindLX found it, no problem. I then tried to find "3%", which = also > appeared in the text, and got the same "No matches found for ''." = message. > Although looking for "and 3%" worked, it couldn't find "3% of the". > > I looked at the docs and the stop list and didn't see any mention of = not > being able to search for numbers. Am I missing something or does = searching > for just numbers not work with FindLX? All I could find out, FIND/LX doesn't provide search on numbers. In those particular cases I use xgrep. Maybe you might try that too. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:54:03 -0400 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, >>I always use Lithium batteries because in New England it gets well = below 32 degrees and from what I understand Lithiums are the only solution= that will tolerate temps below 32 degrees.<< I use lithiums also, partly because of the low temperature issue and = partly because of their flat voltage curve until the last several hours = of their life. However, I do believe that NiMH have the same advantages = and the only reason that I don't use them is that I have been afraid of = damaging my lx from the heat created during extended charging periods. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:54:32 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Bluetooth basics Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > http://www.brainboxes.com > > It seems so. > I sent an email to brainboxes already (about one week ago), but didn't > get a reply yet. :-( > Maybe you could also ask a few technical questions about their device, > if I'm not the only one they could become interested. Even if this RS232 converter turns out to work with the palmtop, I don't think it would be very useful, because it needs an external power supply and is therefore not mobile. It could only be a starting point to see if BT is possible on the palmtop. Someone said, the converter costs about $150. Quite expensive for a test. My preference would be a small internal or external module with power taken from the HP. I think, we still have to wait. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:59:38 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Durability of PCMCIA slot Ýsent to Longden first, by mistake... sorry!¨ Longden Loo writes: > I haven't heard of many (any) list members with a PCMCIA damaged pin > problem. > > OTOH, I swapped my flash and modems cards daily a few years back, before I > noticed that the spring-loaded door on the slot was broken (no longer > dropped back into place). So I think at least one concern for > high-swappers will be that door. The spring on my door broke during the first year of use. I typically put my PCMCIA modem card in (and out) about twice a day. The pins seem pretty sturdy, but I did have a moment of panic one time when the card wouldn't go all the way in. I discovered a coin had found its way into the slot while the 200LX was in my pocket! Ted ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:14:11 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teo Soon Bock" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? > One work around alternative is to load your large text file into a text > editor, and after you have removed all the hard returns, then use the > search-and-replace function to search for 1 (you will need to press space > bar before the number to distinguish it from digits that occur elsewhere in > a number string), and replace with hard-return-ascii-code followed by > 1. You just need to repeat the process 9 other times with the other number > digits to get the job done. Well, in my case it would be 152 other times, because if I don't use a space after the number, the filter will simply split all numbers into single digits. I guess this might be the only way though. Thanks. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:14:58 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HP200LX Ethernet Cards on eBAY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:16:15 +0200, Tomas Moberg wrote: > Longden Loo wrote: > > > Does anyone know if both versions of the card will work in the > > > 200LX 9the 10-base T version and the coax version)? Thanks Bryan > ... > > current usage. For the palmtop, you can't use a coaxial cable network > > anyway; it draws too much current. Hence, stick with the 2216-1. > > > > I use the -2 version. works OK as long as I dont use the coax. I use a -2 card also. I have used the coax also, but stopped when the list told me that it was dangerous because of the powerusage. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:14:59 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 00:10:51 +0000 (GMT), Stefan Peichl wrote: Stefan > Because I do all my email on the palmtop, this is a very > convenient way of bidding fast on the HP from wherever I am. Sounds great. I have not tried out Ebay. I have searched for a Rex3 backup card. But I can not find anyone shipping outside Us. I tried the elv.de which Daniel told me about. But they have not answered my email. > BTW: I'm informed by SMS about every new email I received. Me too. I get 9 sms messages per email. I can customize this. I can also filter what is sent to the cellphone. I have gotten a lot of spam lately and I hate to recive them on the cellphone also. But my filter is getting better and better. > I think these tools (Palmtop, WWW/LX, SMS) are close to perfect > for eBay stuff. Yes I can not live without email->sms. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 00:50:57 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 21:13:55 -0400, Mike Schneider wrote: > Just a quick question for you guys... > > I use my pcmcia slot profusely. With the constant wear and tear on the pins, > I'm wondering if I'm setting myself up for a hardware failure. Are those > pins really durable or should I try to minimize my card swaps? I have also been concerned about this. I use a 110mb pcmcia card, a 24mb cf with adapter and a En2216-2 ethernetcard every day. What I am most concerned about is the wear of the release "button"/"spring" I insert/eject the ethernetcard several times per day, and I have done this for a couple of years with no problem. But what to do when it all goes wrong? Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 01:32:25 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 12:50 AM Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX > > I use my pcmcia slot profusely. With the constant wear and tear on the pins, > > I'm wondering if I'm setting myself up for a hardware failure. Are those > > pins really durable or should I try to minimize my card swaps? > > I have also been concerned about this. I use a 110mb pcmcia card, a > 24mb cf with adapter and a En2216-2 ethernetcard every day. > > What I am most concerned about is the wear of the release > "button"/"spring" This has been a question no one seems to have answered yet, but I do know that even though I have not yet seen an actual report on the failure of the pins, I HAVE seen a report on the failure of the release mechanism. Also I have seen reports on the failure of the serial port and the power connections, and of course the hinges and the screen, but never on the pins. Perhaps Hal or Mac would be the ones to comment on this. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:49:17 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: PowerLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 7 Apr 2001, at 11:57, Ken London wrote: > > Since most streets in the U.S. have power lines, where if anywhere > could it be used???? > if people prefer a medium speed Internet connection to any HF radio reception and do not worry about electrosmog in their houses you could use it everywhere :-( In my house I had a switching power supply for 12V halogen lamps in the floor. The wires from the power supply to the lights acted lik antennas as well - when I wanted to listen to my radio I had to turn off the lights first. I changed the power supply very quickly. In my opinion the money should be better put into the development of really _fast_ connections like glass fibres. Thats the future. Lets see which direction the different countries will choose. 73! de Werner OE9FWV -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:42:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan, On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 14:30:37 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.de > > It offers only the most important features, like > > -search > -search for item number > -login > -my eBay > -bid Great! > "The resulting URL is too long for HV" :-( > That's a pity. Probably only the URL buffer of HV had to be > extended by a few bytes and we could have the whole eBay on > the Palmtop. I wish D&A would consider this tiny improvement. > But I know, they will not :-( Maybe there is a way to let HV use a shorter URL, for example replacing the forst part of the URL by an IP address. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:22:17 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Kopplin wrote: > Try this url and see where you end up. > http://mmm.ebay.com it is resolved to http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.com and therefore uses the same too long URLs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 15:06:09 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Kopplin wrote: > You could also check the www.2roam.com website. Now I see clearer! www.2roam.com is the business behind catalyst.2roam.com. Their intention is: "connecting web businesses to the wireless world" They cooperate with several web businesses like for example eBay and make their product available for the wireless world. In other words, they offer downsized text only access to these businesses. Very interesting! It is different to the WAP approach and ideal for the Palmtop, if HV could only handle longer URLs. Other parnters besides eBay are Best Western, Forbes, Hoover, Tribune, Airlines... Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:31:19 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Cebit report (3/2) ;-) Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 Daniel Hertrich wrote: > BUT: The compatibility list for the Sandisk cards doesn't mention the > 200LX anymore. The list of HP handhelds begins with the 360LX. To test compatibility, a manufacturer has to be able to obtain the target machine. Since the 200LX has been discontinued for about 1 1/2 years now, perhaps Sandisk their old 200LXs are broken and they cannot obtain any more. (They probably don't know about Thaddeus, and even if they did, I'm not sure they would purchase a used machine for this purpose and would certainly not test with only a double-speed LX.) Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:52:10 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Serial port frying a hole into the palmtop case. Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:51:45 -0400, Domingo wrote: > Hi. I found the following post on comp.sys.palmtops.pilot. > What I would like to know is whether it applies in any way to > the hplx. Ýbig snip¨ If this is not a joke it is a bit silly. Static electricity can certainly cause chips to fail, but it does not have enough energy to cause a chip to melt. I suppose it is possible that a static charge caused the serial chip, the UART, to fail, and then this failure caused the chip to draw so much power from the host computer that it melted. In that case, I would say that the design of the host computer was rather poor. You ask if the LX is capable of causing such damage. Well, any time you connect two computers together it is POSSIBLE that static electricity will cause the ports on one or both of the computers to burn out. However, most chips that interface with the outside world are internally protected against static discharge. It would take an unusually large static discharge to override this protection. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:23:57 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cebit report (3/2) ;-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> Funnily enough the folks at Sandisk know Thaddeus quite well and many of them are still strong users of the HP 200LX!!! However, the fact remains the 200LX has been discontinued for 1.5 years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:21:41 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Blue dream 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FWIW: A blue 200lx sold on eBay about a month ago with the description that it was originally from Japan. Anybody else notice it? bob ************************* >Hello, >Look here: > >Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:01:49 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Serial port frying a hole into the palmtop case. Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200104081352.JAA28685@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Vic, >>If this is not a joke it is a bit silly. Static electricity can >>certainly cause chips to fail, but it does not have enough >>energy to cause a chip to melt. I also found it hard to believe that a static charge could melt a chip, all the physically damaged chips I have seen were caused by a wiring mistake or a cable break that caused a short circuit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:10:28 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evan Person wrote: > I used to use the NiCads and NiMHs in my 200LX > but it's hard to tell when they're about to give out. > If I used my 200LX consistently I could periodically > replace them on a fixed schedule. I use a program I found some time ago called STAT that gives me a bar graph showing the condition of the battery and one for the backup battery. Also one for the card battery so it must be a fairly old program. :) I use it with Nicads and NIMH and I've found it to be a reasonably good guide. But I do have to remember to use it. It also leaves the LX in mono mode instead of CGA mode so I have to use the mode command right after to restore CGA mode. But that's only a minor irritation. I never use the LX as a battery charger. When I find the batteries are low in the 1st quarter of the bar graph, I put in a fresh set and pop the old ones in a charger. Barry Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:48:59 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > So: Buy CR2032s, store them for a few years before you use them, and > you'll get more out of them! ;-) I would not advise doing that......you should still change the backup battery each year with a fresh battery unless you have a usable backup that you just made. Look at the back up battery as insurance against data losss. The back up battery is not the place to skimp to save money. Which would you rather do, spend a few dollars on a backup battery or spend about 80 hours reentering every thing into your 200lx:? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:58:03 -0400 Reply-To: Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > At 12:30 PM 4/6/01 -0400, Domingo wrote: > >Hello. I am trying to work with a large text file (2megs) to > >make it usable in electronic form. One thing I am planning to > >do to reformat it is to remove all hard returns, and in the > >resulting mess I would like to put a hard return in front of > >every number (it's a kind of a database). This will make many > >formating mistakes, but I think it will be easier to fix those > >mistakes than to try to format the whole file by hand. The > >question is, what program or utility can detect numbers (as > >opossed to letters) in order to automatically add the hard > >returns? I don't recall seeing anything like this in the old > >Garbo site, which had a rich selection of text filters. > >Any suggestions? BTW, before you suggest I write a Perl > >script, aside from batch files, I cannot program my way out of > >a paper bag. :-) I have found a partial answer to my own question. Word has a command in search and replace, ¬#, which will search for any digit, and with the command ¬p and the command ¬& I can put a hard return in front of any character I put in the Find field. The problem I am now having is that the following combination, ¬p¬& , not only adds a hard return, but it also adds a space between the hard return and the character. It must be some kind of default in Word. Anyone has any ideas on how to overcome this problem? TIA Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:01:49 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Castor wrote: > Ken, > > I use lithiums also, partly because of the low > temperature issue and partly because of their > flat voltage curve until the last several hours > of their life. However, I do believe that > NiMH have the same advantages and the only > reason that I don't use them is that I have been > afraid of damaging my lx from the heat created > during extended charging periods. Actually I was using NiMH batteries for a awhile but stopped because several people (maybe on Compuserve) claimed they will freeze at 32 degrees. Anyone know if this is correct? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:37:54 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: text only eBay In-Reply-To: <14mEtL-0pUXoXC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Mike Kopplin wrote: > > > You could also check the www.2roam.com website. > > Now I see clearer! www.2roam.com is the business behind > catalyst.2roam.com. Their intention is: Yes, exactly, my point about the mmm.ebay.com link was to show that they are actually partnered with ebay, and so the catalyst link can be trusted as far as you trust ebay. But as you say, the url is still too long for HV. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 23:16:07 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:11:14 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > Purely cosmetic, of course, tho I now leave my flash card in the slot all > the time, and connect to an external modem via the serial cable (so of > course, the serial pins are now waiting to break), but that move was > motivated partly by a similar concern (as yours) about the PCMCIA pins. I > decided that an LX with damaged serial pins was much more usuable than one > with broken PCMCIA pins, so I moved the risk accordingly. And a broken serial port pin is much easier repairable than a broken PCMCIA pin. I plug in an external modem about twice a day since several years, and didn't get a broken or even bent pin. > Mine just matches the rubber-band latch and the super-glued lid crack. > Part of the charm of being an LX owner . :-) I highly recommend to use silicone if the latch springs are broken! GTX daniel > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:54:55 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: test- pls ignore Just testing my emailer. Having some problems with it. Thanks and sorry to waste bandwidth. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:28:32 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: 100lx for trade In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, My daughter has decided that she would like to switch to the PalmOS platform. She has a 100lx that she has used off & on for some time. Since last summer she has been using a Palm Pilot Pro. She finds she uses that and is looking to upgrade to a palm iiix or Visor. So I was wondering if anyone has a Palm iiix or visor they would like to trade for a HP 100lx. It is in good shape. No cracks I have a 200lx myself and a 100lx as a backup machine so I can't justify buying it for myself. Patrick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 17:15:51 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? Domingo writes: > The problem I am now having is that the following combination, > ¬p¬& , not only adds a hard return, but it also adds a space > between the hard return and the character. It must be some > kind of default in Word. Anyone has any ideas on how to > overcome this problem? You should be able to search for the hard return/space sequence and replace each with only a hard return. Ted ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:56:06 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have two 200LXes I use them interchangeably and have pretty much the same software on each. I can easily switch between Memo and the DOS Solitaire game on one but not the other. They have the same memory and system settings. Both have a flash card installed. The 2meg unit switches without a hitch. The 1 meg unit makes me shut down the game before loading memo. Other than the memory upgrade, is there anything I can do. Is something amiss with the 1 meg? Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:33:48 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:14 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > >Me too. I get 9 sms messages per email. I can customize this. I can >also filter what is sent to the cellphone. I have gotten a lot of spam >lately and I hate to recive them on the cellphone also. > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 00:07:08 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > Unless you leave it in the car, parked in the open overnight, I > don't think you have a temperature concern. In your pocket or > brief case going from place to place the LX won't be exposed to > extreme cold. So if it's 32 below zero and you go from your house to your car how is the unit not going to freeze by the time the car warms up to a temperature where the heat works? Even if you go from a warm house to a warm car, how could the unit not freeze between the house and the car? My understanding from past posts is that the batteries would still freeze. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:14:16 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: test- pls ignore Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John I was toying with using Pegasus for DOS but got scared off with setting it up. What's involved? Is writing down step-by-step instructions a time consuming process? I looked into LXTCP and all that but couldn't understand the instructions because they didn't say things like: you get this program from here and there... you load this one before that and then... hurray, you've finished! Cheers Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of John Musielewicz Sent: Monday, 9 April 2001 09:55 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: test- pls ignore Just testing my emailer. Having some problems with it. Thanks and sorry to waste bandwidth. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:20:04 -0400 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the critical factors in this are time *and temperature, not just temperature. The temperature inside a car is typically hotter than the outside, since there is no wind chill, and there is solar heating going on (during the day). At night, the inside of the car has typically been heated up, and that heat remains inside the car, slowly cooling to the ambient temperature in the surrounding environment. I have left laptops in miserable cold for extended periods (well, miserable for me - it is all relative), and I have noted "odd" behaviour if I do not give the electronics a chance to "warm up" before I turn them on. This has been my experience, living in Central New Jersey. YMMV, Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:07 AM Subject: Re: Rechargeables? > Russel Brooks wrote: > > > Unless you leave it in the car, parked in the open overnight, I > > don't think you have a temperature concern. In your pocket or > > brief case going from place to place the LX won't be exposed to > > extreme cold. > > So if it's 32 below zero and you go from your house to your car > how is the unit not going to freeze by the time the car warms up to > a temperature where the heat works? Even if you go from a warm > house to a warm car, how could the unit not freeze between the > house and the car? My understanding from past posts is that the > batteries would still freeze. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:38:10 +0200 Reply-To: Lillebjorn Nilsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lillebjorn Nilsen Subject: Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to retrieve my mail on two PC's: desktop and 200LX. In the Mail Setup in Post/LX I have left "delete after download" blank to leave messages on the server. Every time I go online with Post/lx I get all messages. How can I avoid getting the messages already retrieved by Post/lx to my 200LX? ----------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:50:47 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Some list members spread viruses. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I got a lot of virus laden e-mails from two HPLX-L list members over the weekend. Hybris, Magistr, etc. You should pay more attention to protect your systems, if for nothing else than because of pure self-interest. I mean, if you are on Win9X, magistr@mm can destroy your motherboard! Sincerely: Tamas Feher. BTW, there is no current AV scanner that works on LX palmtop, Solomon, Kaspersky AVP and all other brands have long ago discontinued their 16-bit offerings. Suprisingly some companies have native AV for PalmPilot, but that is a 32-bit platform on the very inside. I do think it would be nice to have some kind of protection, because there is no guarantee that old fashined DOS file viruses will never again surface. Use of 56k modems and ethernet and GSM may make the LX vulnerable in the future. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:44:53 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Thank you and another (HP95) question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who provided feedback re my last question regarding ACT! on the HP95LX. As to the Y2K compatibility question, I selected a date in the future at random (29th October 2005) using the ACT! application and compared the DAY with the built in appointment book and VOLIA!, the same DAY :-) Guess this does not eliminate all possible Y2K issues but at least the days are correct! Unfortunately I had no replies re obtaining a user guide but I have managed to locate a DOS version 2 document at the Symantec site... Not 100% relevant but at least it is a bit more than the built in help file which together with the aforementioned info has enabled me to 'explore' with a bit more certainty. Another question re HP95LX PCMCIA expansion memory (apologies for any apparent ignorance ): It would seem I have 2 options, i) SRAM cards and ii) Flash RAM cards Can someone please explain the difference (or if an article exists in the PalmPapers archive) including pro's and con's? Many thanks in advance and once I have the info I will hopefully be able to make my purchase (although the limitations during past 5 + years using a 1 Mb base unit with a 128 Kb RAM Card (HP F1002A) have not been too problematic!) of extra memory via the several offers received since subscribing to this list. Till the next time, KEEP SMILING:-) Nigel R in sunny South Africa ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:43:22 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: test- pls ignore Comments: To: Tony Kan Hello Tony Pegasus can be a little difficult to set up. Basically you need to set up a packet driver like dosppp or lsppp first then set pegasus then set up the pop mail retriever pmpop. The documents for each are easy to follow though, the difficult one is the packet driver- you won't know before hand if it is compatible with your ISP so you don't know whether any problems you have are incorrect settings or ISP incompatibilities. The easiest is LSPPP which supports dynamic DNS addressing, chap and has a built-in dialer. Expect to spend a couple hours to set up the system. WWW/LX and Post/LX are much easier to set up if you can afford them. John > John > I was toying with using Pegasus for DOS but got scared off > with setting it up. What's involved? Is writing down > step-by-step instructions a time consuming process? I > looked into LXTCP and all that but couldn't understand the > instructions because they didn't say things like: you get > this program from here and there... you load this one before > that and then... hurray, you've finished! > Cheers > Tony. > > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On > Behalf Of > John Musielewicz > Sent: Monday, 9 April 2001 09:55 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU > Subject: test- pls ignore > > > Just testing my emailer. Having some problems with it. > Thanks and > sorry to waste bandwidth. > > John > > John Musielewicz > > Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:43:25 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Files for setting up Pegasus and packet driver Comments: To: Tony Kan > John > I was toying with using Pegasus for DOS but got scared off Tony Here are some files you can use as samples for setting up Pegasus. Wattcp.cfg domainslist="bitstream.net" hostname=a123456 sockdelay=90 nameserver=216.243.128.5 nameserver=204.73.77.78 my_ip=216.243.158.3 gateway=216.243.129.1 netmask=255.255.224.0 mru=1500 lsppp.bat @echo off d: cd\lsppp if exist c:\bin\wattcp.cfg del c:\bin\wattcp.cfg if exist d:\arachne\wattcp.cfg del d:\arachne\wattcp.cfg if exist ip-up.bat del ip-up.bat copy c:\bin\wattcp2.cfg c:\bin\wattcp.cfg lsppp /b:2f8 /d:2535300 /i:3 /B:57600 /A:10,10 /U:username /P:password call ip-up.bat echo nameserver=%dns1% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg echo nameserver=%dns2% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg echo my_ip=%myip% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg echo gateway=%remip% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg echo netmask=%netmask% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg echo mru=%peermru% >> c:\bin\wattcp.cfg copy c:\bin\wattcp.cfg d:\arachne\wattcp.cfg Hope this helps. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:29:20 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: text only eBay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike Kopplin wrote: > Yes, exactly, my point about the mmm.ebay.com link was to show > that they are actually partnered with ebay, and so the catalyst > link can be trusted as far as you trust ebay. What they do reminds me very much to what you did with your LxMapBlast service: Create a "light" interface for use on small screens/computers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:39:58 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: email -> sms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, on 9 Apr 2001, at 11:33 Teo Soon Bock wrote about: Re: email -> sms > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. in Austria the only reliable and fully functional service is provided by the Austrian telecom. (A1 net) This will probably not help you, because you need a A1 - Sim card for this and if you do not live in Austria, it will not be much worth for you. But maybe there is a phone company in your country, that has this service for free. I use the paging service of GMX email provider to send SMS to my handy. Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:59:21 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: LXTCP Setup (was: test- pls ignore) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tony wrote: > John > I was toying with using Pegasus for DOS but got scared off > with setting it up. What's involved? Is writing down > step-by-step instructions a time consuming process? I > looked into LXTCP and all that but couldn't understand the > instructions because they didn't say things like: you get > this program from here and there... you load this one before > that and then... hurray, you've finished! > Cheers > Tony. Hi Tony, Before you give up totally on LXTCP, you might have a look at the instructions I've written for setting it up: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/LXTCP.html Several people have told me they found this helpful. Feel free to e-mail if you havew questions. Ted ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:02:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Corso, Tony" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Corso, Tony" Subject: Morphy One or other small fast dos machines? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C0FD.AF6D3684" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C0FD.AF6D3684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" did the Morphy One ever get anywhere? even though I can now run DOS stuff on my IPAQ, I still find myself "lugging" around my 200lx, because there are times that i want a keyboard. the Morphy Ýwhich i kinda think off as a superspeed 200lx¨ would fill the bill anyone have info as to Morphy availability, or perhaps info on similarly compact form factor DOS machines? Ýe.g. does the 386 based Research in Motion pager run DOS¨? T ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C0FD.AF6D3684 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Morphy One or other small fast dos machines?

did the Morphy One  ever get anywhere?

even though I can now run DOS stuff on my IPAQ, I still
find myself "lugging" around my 200lx, because there are
times that i want a keyboard. the Morphy Ýwhich i kinda
think off as a superspeed 200lx¨ would fill the bill

anyone have info as to Morphy availability, or perhaps
info on similarly compact form factor DOS machines?
Ýe.g. does the 386 based Research in Motion pager run DOS¨?

T

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C0FD.AF6D3684-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:04:11 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 7 Apr 2001 to 8 Apr 2001 (#2001-123) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Kopplin wrote: > But as you say, the url is still too long for HV. I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that Avi's company (whose name I can't recall at the moment) won't be willing to change this. In many cases changing a buffer size means changing one or two constants and recompiling. Then a little testing. If the url is displayed in HV a little extra formatting work might also be required. I'd send them an email requesting that change. Tell them how much larger it must be and explaining why. I don't speak for them, of course, but most companies would consider a change like this where it will make their product more usable. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:58:55 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Info requested regards Philadelphia connection In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all Does anyone here connect to Erols or another service in the Philadelphia area? Prefer free if not Erols. I'm going to the states in May and want to arrange connectivity before I go. What is the HPLX specific service that allows CCMail connection? TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:14:09 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Vest wrote: > I have two 200LXes I use them interchangeably > and have pretty much the same software on each. > I can easily switch between Memo and the DOS > Solitaire game on one but not the other. They have > the same memory and system settings. Both have > a flash card installed. The 2meg unit switches without > a hitch. The 1 meg unit makes me shut down the > game before loading memo. > > Other than the memory upgrade, is there anything I > can do. Is something amiss with the 1 meg? I don't think there's anything wrong with your machine and I doubt that a memory upgrade would affect this. There is something different in your two configurations. You need to find it. First I'd check in the system manager to be sure that you've allocated the same amount of memory for system memory and disk in both systems. I'd also check that you allow the same amount of memory for dos apps. Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some difference. I'd also try opening and closing Filer in the LX that does let you run the game without closing memo. If Filer has been open it won't release it's memory. It's possible that you've used Filer since your last reboot on one and not on the other. If that turns out to be the case you can reboot to solve it. There's also a program on Super called closefiler or clsfiler or some such that will help you. If none of these answers it I'd check for differences, even small ones, elsewhere in your configuration. Look at config.sys and autoexec.bat and also at any batch files they call. I think it's pretty certain that this is a configuration problem. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:16:37 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: SanDisk Compatability Info (was RE: Cebit report (3/2) ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" SanDisk has revised their web site and eliminated the pdf file talking about using their flash cards with the 95LX and 100/200LX. Fortunately, I downloaded it a while ago, so I could upload it to SUPER or some other site if there is that desire. If anyone wants it, let me know offlist. Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Hal Goldstein Ýmailto:hal_goldstein@THADDEUS.COM¨ Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:24 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Cebit report (3/2) ;-) Funnily enough the folks at Sandisk know Thaddeus quite well and many of them are still strong users of the HP 200LX!!! However, the fact remains the 200LX has been discontinued for 1.5 years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:05:09 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Text filters, how to detect a digit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Domingo On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:58:03 -0400, Domingo wrote: > The problem I am now having is that the following combination, > ¬p¬& , not only adds a hard return, but it also adds a space > between the hard return and the character. It must be some > kind of default in Word. Anyone has any ideas on how to > overcome this problem? Is there any command you can put into the "replace by" field which represents a backspace? You could delete the unwanted space with that backspace. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:41:20 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Domingo: <> I just checked with our repair people. Response -- "once in a blue moon" do we ever get units with a problem with PC card pins. That translates to something like 1/10 of 1%. The broken serial port pins is where we get LOTS of repair work. Hal at Thaddeus, www.palmtoppaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:13:29 -0600 Reply-To: Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: Re: FindLX and numbers Comments: To: HP Staber In-Reply-To: <200104071210.f37CASL02608@pop-a.netway.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:10 PM 4/7/01 +0100, HP Staber wrote: >Don Puscher wrote: >> >> I was using FindLX to look for some info today and came across a curious >> problem. I wanted to find an entry listed as 04/06/2000. FindLX came back >> with the comment "No matches found for ''." > >FIND/LX does approximate search or exact search depending on the > Exact= >parameter in your find.cfg > >I use FIND/LX for approximate search only (Exact=0). This way numerals >can not be found, as they don't have a "pattern". > >Numerals have to be found in exact search mode which you get when you >put Exact=1. For such search tasks I use XGREP which is very fast and >does not need the (large) index files which are necessary with FIND/LX. > >> I looked at the docs and the stop list and didn't see any mention of not >> being able to search for numbers. Am I missing something or does searching >> for just numbers not work with FindLX? > >Exact= if set to "1", instructs FIND/LX to use only "exact" matches > instead of the approximate matches it normally uses. However, > if this option is used, matches are still case insensitive > and accents such as umlauts are ignored. Note that the > indexes may grow quite a bit bigger when this option is used. > > >HP Staber/Salzburg Driving home that night I had the same thought. I had been using XGREP earlier in the day and confused the two programs. I thought the approximate search would still find a "pattern" in the way the numbers appeared. Guess not. Thanks for the clarification. Don PS -- Today in History: April 9, 1991 was when MS released MS-DOS 5.0 :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:03:18 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Post/LX Comments: To: Lillebjorn Nilsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lillebjorn Nilsen ably wrote: > I want to retrieve my mail on two PC's: desktop and 200LX. I have the exact same set up. I want to get email on the palmtop while travelling, but also on the desktop where I need the email for documentation and archive purposes. I found this: When Post/LX gets email and there is not "delete after download" it creates a file called name.old (name is the name of the mailbox) and in it it puts some identification of the emails that were downloaded. The next time, it skips the emails that were already downloaded based on the list in the "name.old" file. It says something about retrieving ids of mail 1, mail 2, etc... Then it adds to the list the identifications of the new emails etc. The list gets longer and longer if you get a lot of email and you are away from a long time. I sometimes have to watch it work its way identifying and skipping over as many as 100 emails(!) when I go away for 2 weeks. After I found out all this the hard way, I also found it all the easy way : in the help screens in Post/LX ... There are two spots: Old and New Email - it tells about the .OLD file. And also search on UIDL. This is the command used to identify the email in the server, and if your server is not capable of doing this command you get an error message. Indeed, if your server cannot do this command, you will get the same emails over and over again. A friend of mine who is an ISP told me that if your ISP does not support UIDL they should be shut down ! This is the simplest things in the world for an ISP to do and it is a major convenience for the customer, and almost ALL the email clients now use that, so they should turn on the feature if they haven't yet. (I think he means by this: Call them and yell at them if they have not turned it on yet! ) Good luck. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:43:21 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Morphy One or other small fast dos machines? Comments: To: "Corso, Tony" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C10B.CE2E0F60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C10B.CE2E0F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morphy One or other small fast dos machines?The Psion will run a dos emulator, it has a keyboard and a backlight. It also syncs with Outlook right out of the box. It is also compatible with Word, Excel, etc... But before you get too excited, the dos emulation speed is between that of a regular 200LX and a Double Speed LX. I still do my dos programming on the 200LX. Mike... -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Corso, Tony Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:02 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Morphy One or other small fast dos machines? did the Morphy One ever get anywhere? even though I can now run DOS stuff on my IPAQ, I still find myself "lugging" around my 200lx, because there are times that i want a keyboard. the Morphy Ýwhich i kinda think off as a superspeed 200lx¨ would fill the bill anyone have info as to Morphy availability, or perhaps info on similarly compact form factor DOS machines? Ýe.g. does the 386 based Research in Motion pager run DOS¨? 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------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C10B.CE2E0F60-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:01:40 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Cebit report (3/2) ;-) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Michael, you sent the following to me -- I assume you meant the list. HP gave up on the 200LX a long time ago. For a variety of political, historical, and economic reasons I don't think HP would consider doing another 200LX. If they could just whack down the size of the Jornada 720, and maybe make a mono backlit version that could live on 2AA's, I think they'd have a winner. The Jornada 720 is pretty nice except for its size, cost, and dependency on a recharger. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Berrier Ýmailto:m_berrier@gmx.de¨ don't you see a chance to convince HP to think about the 200LX another time. May be we should ask Nathalie Bougeau to handle the negotiations with the female CEO of HP. What do think ? Let us know regards, Michael from Germany ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:28:45 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FA: 2x 32MB 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:18:52 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I am clearing out my extra backup LX. You will find it on eBay, item # 1228947829 You will also find from my flirtation with the "darkside": AERO 1520 item# 1228942673 Jornada 545 item# 1228958376 Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:25:41 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: 2x 32MB 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" With a well-used manual, I see :-) -----Original Message----- From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 3:29 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: FA: 2x 32MB 200LX Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:18:52 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I am clearing out my extra backup LX. You will find it on eBay, item # 1228947829 ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:33:12 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Morphy One or other small fast dos machines? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the HTML eariler! :-( The Psion will run a dos emulator, it has a keyboard and a backlight. It also syncs with Outlook right out of the box. It is also compatible with Word, Excel, etc... But before you get too excited, the dos emulation speed is between that of a regular 200LX and a Double Speed LX. I still do my dos programming on the 200LX. Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:34:45 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Morphy One In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just herd from Akibo a koupla days ago. The first run of 1000 machines still has a glitch or two but is progressing. > anyone have info as to Morphy availability, or > perhaps info on similarly compact form factor DOS machines? yor pal al......... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:12:13 +0900 Reply-To: Akinobu Fukuzaki Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Akinobu Fukuzaki Subject: Re: Morphy One In-Reply-To: <20010409213445.4897.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Morphy One is a Palm top PC which has some compatibility with "PC". We pay much more effort on to debug MB, but on the other hand, software techs working on: BIOS: We use General Software OAK but it based on the duty of confidentiality, so I think this could be a problem to realize open hardware on the future. Actually it shows some bootup screen, but still have a problem arround memory management and key-code generating. OS: PC-Dos or DR-Dos should be a candidate on Dos. If you want to use PC-UNIX, then, Linux and Free-BSD can be candidate too. Actually, we do development on IBM PC-110, which has CF interface and 486SX cpu. PIM: Well, HP will never give us the source code of thier PIM System (System Manager and etc...). One of us working on to develop new PIM system with ruby. We have already made non-FPU based ruby.exe with CGA control libraly. But it is based on Japanese system, because it requires Japanese kanji font file. But he develops CGA lib and GUI frameworks and it works in fact. When we can solve the problem on memory manager of MB, we can test DOS and ruby but.... Talking about Linux, ruby has already inplemented but not CGA lib. We should make CGA driver some how? Unfortunatry, morphyplanning co. does not think about sell it to outside of Japan, I know they are so small company. As I have still done on the www.morphyone.org, we have a parts-list english version. If some big company gets interested in this, distribute to the world can be realize soon. TX, akinobu fukuzaki -- ********************************************** Akinobu Fukuzaki akinobu@fukuzaki.net ********************************************** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:31:16 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: email -> sms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:33:48 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > At 11:14 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > >Me too. I get 9 sms messages per email. I can customize this. I can > >also filter what is sent to the cellphone. I have gotten a lot of spam > >lately and I hate to recive them on the cellphone also. > > > > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. The one I use is a service of my cellphone provide. But there are several free services out there. Check out http:\\www.halebop.com and http:\\www.quios.com They may be free, not sure. Do a websearch I am sure that you can find something. Sorry that I can not of more help. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:31:29 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Some list members spread viruses. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:50:47 +0200, Feher Tamas wrote: > Hello all, Hello there > BTW, there is no current AV scanner that works on LX palmtop, Solomon, > Kaspersky AVP and all other brands have long ago discontinued their > 16-bit offerings. What about F-Prot from http:\\www.complex.is ? Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:31:35 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:41:20 -0500, Hal Goldstein wrote: Hal > I just checked with our repair people. Response -- "once in a blue moon" do > we ever get units with a problem with PC card pins. That translates to > something like 1/10 of 1%. The broken serial port pins is where we get LOTS > of repair work. What is the failure% on the pcmcia release slider? Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:31:41 -0700 Reply-To: loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. > Check out http:\\www.halebop.com and http:\\www.quios.com I just used one for my dad called http:\\www.myalert.com (5 SMS a day). I believe Quios is only one. Loic ____________________________ BN3 Hosted Customer Service Solution, basic service FREE. CRM enable your web site in 5 minutes! http://www.bn3.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:55:44 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > Ken London wrote: > > > Unless you leave it in the car, parked in the open overnight, I > > > don't think you have a temperature concern. In your pocket or > > > brief case going from place to place the LX won't be exposed to > > > extreme cold. > > > > So if it's 32 below zero and you go from your house to your car > > how is the unit not going to freeze by the time the car warms up to > > Just how is the LX being carried? By itself in your hand? In > an LX sized case? In your pocket? In a briefcase? The LX and > its surroundings are going to have some residual heat that will > have to be lost before freezing starts. The more you have > wrapped around it the longer it will last. If you carry a small > bottle of water out to the car in those circumstances does it > freeze before the car heats? > > Cheers... Russ Tried many options, none of which worked successfully. Residual heat maybe, but when it is 30 below zero the residual heat is going to vanish very quickly, escpecially if it is windy. Will the bottle of water freeze? Yes. I'm usually 3/4 of the way to work by the time the car warms up. Anyone outisde of California, Florida or Texas have eperience with their 200lx in winter? No matter what I have tried I've had bad luck in winter with the 200lx which is why I've ended up with lithium batteries. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:44:16 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Morphy One In-Reply-To: <200104092212.HAA24615@idmms.tmit.ac.jp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Akinobu Fukuzaki wrote: > OS: PC-Dos or DR-Dos should be a candidate on Dos. If you want > to use PC-UNIX, then, Linux and Free-BSD can be candidate too. > Actually, we do development on IBM PC-110, which has CF > interface and 486SX cpu. Generally, DR-DOS is not quite as compatible as PC-DOS or MS-DOS (that has been my experience anyway), but I suspect it might be cheaper to purchase for the project. > PIM: Well, HP will never give us the source code of thier PIM > System (System Manager and etc...). One of us working on to > develop new PIM system with ruby. We have already made non-FPU > based ruby.exe with CGA control libraly. But it is based on > Japanese system, because it requires Japanese kanji font file. > But he develops CGA lib and GUI frameworks and it works in fact. > When we can solve the problem on memory manager of MB, we can > test DOS and ruby but.... Any screen shots? :-) > Talking about Linux, ruby has already inplemented but not CGA lib. > We should make CGA driver some how? The easiest way is probably to implement the Linux driver as a framebuffer device. Linux already has support for framebuffer devices (basically, the video memory is mapped into user memory and manipulated directly, I think, but I'm no driver expert). Other platforms (Linux Amiga/m68k) already run X windows at resolutions similar to CGA, using a framebuffer device. The current Linux framebuffer driver may infact already support CGA. The question is, do you want to run a complete X Windows system or just the ruby GUI? a complete X Windows system is probably going to use a lot of memory and be somewhat unuseful, especially with the resolution being so low. Personally, I spend most of my time in console mode under Linux, but that's just me ;-) > Unfortunatry, morphyplanning co. does not think about sell it to > outside of Japan, I know they are so small company. As I have still > done on the www.morphyone.org, we have a parts-list english version. > If some big company gets interested in this, distribute to the world > can be realize soon. How much will it cost (estimate)? Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 02:46:32 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Some list members spread viruses. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > BTW, there is no current AV scanner that works on LX palmtop, Solomon, > > Kaspersky AVP and all other brands have long ago discontinued their > > 16-bit offerings. > > What about F-Prot from http:\\www.complex.is ? Current versions use a DOS extender and require a 386 or better. You might be able to find an older version that can run on a 8086. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:36:15 +0900 Reply-To: Akinobu Fukuzaki Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Akinobu Fukuzaki Subject: Re: Morphy One In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > Generally, DR-DOS is not quite as compatible as PC-DOS or MS-DOS (that has > been my experience anyway), but I suspect it might be cheaper to purchase > for the project. Yes it is. > Any screen shots? :-) OK. I will put it on to our web, but it will be japanese version. I should go out right now, so tonight(JST) I can do this. It will be 12H later or more :-) > The easiest way is probably to implement the Linux driver as a framebuffer Yes! Framebuffer should be a solution. Then, > The question is, do you want to run a complete X Windows system or just > the ruby GUI? I do not need any X. But you know some of the people are developping small X Window system for small computer. One more things, morphy one does not have mouse or any pointing device yet. > How much will it cost (estimate)? Almost 80,000 yen ($800) for one product on the 1,000 shot here. I believe this could be same on US and europe. but some parts should be found alternatives, because of sold out or some reasons. Thanx akinobu fukuzaki -- ********************************************** Akinobu Fukuzaki akinobu@fukuzaki.net ********************************************** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:40:30 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Morphy One (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > OS: PC-Dos or DR-Dos should be a candidate on Dos. If you want > > to use PC-UNIX, then, Linux and Free-BSD can be candidate too. > > Actually, we do development on IBM PC-110, which has CF > > interface and 486SX cpu. > > Generally, DR-DOS is not quite as compatible as PC-DOS or MS-DOS (that has > been my experience anyway), but I suspect it might be cheaper to purchase > for the project. Anyone consider FreeDOS for the project? Just wanted to point this out, since I didn't see it on the list of candidates. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:24:11 -0500 Reply-To: lamaide@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John LaMaide Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyone outside of California, Florida or Texas have experience with > their 200lx in winter? No matter what I have tried I've had bad > luck Guys, I've carried my 200LX in my backpack for 5 years, and I'm in and out of the heat and cold here in Chicago. I service Trading Turrets ( phones with up to 600 lines ) and walk around the loop all day and have NEVER had a problem with NICAD or NIMH cells. I get instant on and don't appear to have any reduced life or charge. I have come down on the train and walked for 1.5 miles in the coldest weather and still pulled out the 200 and used it in the terminal mode to test computer systems for hours. I never go on a service call with out it, and the custom cables I built. I carry a spare set of charged cells but have found those to be in need of a recharge when I might have needed them. John N9PHX ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:16:25 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I haven't heard of many (any) list members with a PCMCIA >damaged pin problem. my 200LX smashed its head several times on concrete floors and each time the pcmcia card dislodged, sometimes jumping out of it's ear altogether; so, what holds the card in? >Mine just matches the rubber-band latch and the super-glued lid >crack. Part of the charm of being an LX owner . like historic vehicles we need to put some chrome somewhere -- hey guys - find the right spot! nat doc fra hplx100/200 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:57:32 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables Comments: cc: Wayne Kneeskern MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> William, hope you don't mind me responding to you publicly. This is a reminder to all -- we are selling 5 1.5 meg SRAM rechargeables for $25. We don't have specs, and hopefully if 1 or 2 don't work, it is still a good deal for anyone interested. (So far all we've tried work). You can't replace the battery without destroying the card. The cards get recharged by operating in laptop or palmtop. $5 for shipping, one or more sets. We also have the 200LX top part cover for $25 each -- but you are on your own. At this time we are posting this offer only to this list. If interested, email wayne@thaddeus.com. hal at thaddeus www.palmtoppaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:09:22 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Any subscribers of "Premiere World" here? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any HP-LX owners on the list that have a subscription to Premiere World and who want to volunteer testing a database with program schedules and send me comments? This is not a complete application, just a GDB file for now. Please reply to me off-list, if you're interested. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:43:48 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: scandinavian DB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hiya Scandinavians on the list Wood someone from scandinavia care to look at my scandinavia DB and add or comment on it? TIA yor pal al.......... ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:55:52 -0400 Reply-To: isobar@BCPL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Kirk Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: To: lamaide@JUNO.COM In-Reply-To: <20010409.223526.-187727.1.lamaide@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed John... So which do you prefer, the NICAD or NiMHs? Do you charge the NiMHs in the LX or externally? Bob Kirk N3OZB At 10:24 PM 4/9/01 -0500, John LaMaide wrote: >I've carried my 200LX in my backpack for 5 years, and I'm in and out of >the heat and cold here in Chicago. I service Trading Turrets ( phones >with up to 600 lines ) and walk around the loop all day and have NEVER >had a problem with NICAD or NIMH cells. IÝ...¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:27 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > my 200LX smashed its head several times on concrete floors and each time the > pcmcia card dislodged, sometimes jumping out of it's ear altogether; so, > what holds the card in? It's "pinned in". Nothing (or no one) is likely to move with 70 or so pins stuck in (body-piercers excluded). > >Mine just matches the rubber-band latch and the super-glued lid > >crack. Part of the charm of being an LX owner . > > like historic vehicles we need to put some chrome somewhere -- The issue of painting the case has come up recently, but you're right ... a chrome, nickel or gold-plated LX would nicely complement my rubber truck-liner version (both fantasy). My LX looks like my tired (but proud) Toyota Tercel (310K miles and going strong). > hey guys - find the right spot! . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:17:54 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Martin Bergvill Ýmailto:martin@MOBILPOST.COM¨ <> I got this response from our tech: "1 out of 20-25 machines. However, I the only times I have seen it, the problem is just that the lever popped out of place, it doesn't actually break. Lots of times, the customers don't even ask for it to be fixed as if they don't even notice it. We just put it back in place for them. What you need to keep in mind with this is that it's not a physical failure. The machines that have this problem are ones with other physical problems (such as they were dropped hard enough to damage the machine and jar the lever loose OR the case is coming apart and it comes loose because of not being held together). We receive quite a few repairs in these two categories." Hal from Thaddeus, $125 for repair, www.PalmtopPaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:19:43 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Thank you and another (HP95) question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel Rotherham wrote: > Another question re HP95LX PCMCIA expansion > memory (apologies for any apparent ignorance > ): It would seem I have 2 options, i) SRAM > cards and ii) Flash RAM cards > > Can someone please explain the difference Sram cards use the same kind of memory that is in the 95lx. It needs power to retain it's contents, so it uses a small battery. It is pretty expensive per megabyte. In fact I think sram is the most expensive form of memory. Normal PCs only use it in some caching situations. The advantages of sram cards in the 95lx are that most of them have a write protect switch and the 95lx doesn't have good protection for the memory in the card when it crashes. It's safer than on-board memory but still at risk. That was improved in the 100lx. But anything on the card is perfectly safe with the write protect switch locked. Sram never wears out. Sram is much faster. It's the fastest kind of memory, I think. I know it used to be. And writing to sram uses very little power. The drawbacks of sram are it's limited size, high price per megabyte and it's need for power to maintain it's contents. Flash ram is a different kind of memory that retains it's contents without power. Hence no battery is needed. It's less expensive per megabyte and larger cards can be used, since they have internal logic to make themselves work with the limited number of address lines in the 95lx PCMCIA slot. The advantages of flash memory are larger size, cheaper per meg and that no power is needed to retain it's contents. The drawbacks of flash memory are that when the 95lx crashes, it's contents can be lost in a crash since they don't normally have write protect switches. (not important in the 100/200lx). Flash memory also wears out. It can be written to a limited number of times. It can always be read. The limit is very high and even with the older flash memory for most people the card is likely to outlast the 95lx. There is software that could make it wear out much faster, such as regular use of a defragmenter, but that's unlikely to be used. A program that does disc sorts probably shouldn't be used regularly with it, either. The newer cards have improved this considerably but they won't work in the 95lx. Another drawback is that it takes a considerable burst of power to write to the card. This has caused writes to fail when the batteries are low and that corrupts the card so that it needs to be re-formatted. Again that's less true with the newer cards but it was a problem with the ones that work in the 95lx. Also HP used to reccomend not using Duracell batteries with flash cards since they sometimes can't put out a the needed burst of power and that can corrupt the card. I'm not sure if Duracells today are still that way. There is also a bug in the 1 meg version of the 95lx that can cause it to crash if you reboot when C: is fairly full. I used to run into that but at the time I didn't have a flash card so I don't know if it affects them. I know C: always got corrupted when this happened. It did corrupt my sram card once when I forgot to write protect it. But writing to a flash card is different than writing to an sram card and I'm not sure this means it would have corrupted a flash card. There are reasons to think it's less likely to corrupt a flash card. Another consideration is that since you need a driver with a flash card, if you lose the contents of your C: drive you can no longer get to the flash card since you've lost the driver. That makes the 95lx fairly useless till you get another copy of the driver. On a trip that might make it worthwhile to carry a small sram card with that driver on it. Small used sram cards are very cheap now. I sold 5 128k sram cards to someone on HPHAND 2 or 3 years ago for $20. That was for all 5, not $20 each. My reccomendation would be to avoid flash cards if you plan to do any programming on the 95lx. Or at least remove it when you do. If you don't do any programming with it, I think flash cards are still a little riskier but their advantages might outweigh the risk. I have one of the old 10 meg flash cards that is supposed to work with the 95lx. I bought it years ago. I've probably used it a lot more than the newer ones I have since I keep it on a 200lx that I keep by my computer for tracking passwords. I run wear.exe on it every year and so far it's always said it hasn't needed wear leveling. So it's still a long way from being worn out. Wear.exe is a program that came with these older cards that checks for clusters on the card that are wearing out and can substitute other clusters for them to extend the life of the card somewhat. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:12:44 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Thank you and another (HP95) question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Barry wrote: ... > But anything on the card is perfectly safe > with the write protect switch locked. ... But you can't write to the card when the switch is locked, so that really limits its use. Locking the card is OK if you are only using it to store read-only data. For the way I use PC card storage, write-protection is not an option. ... > larger cards can be used, since they have > internal logic to make themselves work with the > limited number of address lines in the 95lx PCMCIA slot. ... The useable capacity of a flash card is limited to 32MB by DOS 3.22. Thus, you cannot use Stacker on a 20MB card (for the full card) because the capacity will be more than 32MB. ... > The advantages of flash memory are larger size, > cheaper per meg and that no power is needed > to retain it's contents. ... Yes, this is true. ... > The drawbacks of flash memory are that > when the 95lx crashes, it's contents can be lost > in a crash since they don't normally > have write protect switches. ... I have not experienced this, but that is not to say it can't happen. ... > Another drawback is that it takes a considerable burst > of power to write to the card. This has caused writes > to fail when the batteries are low and that corrupts > the card so that it needs tobe re-formatted. ... On my 95LX, I get a series of black lines across the screen during reads/writes, due to power consumption, I suspect. I have had write failures using VR when the batteries get below 2.2V or so, but they have never corrupted the card (a 10MB SunDisk SDP5). ... > Another consideration is that since you need a > driver with a flash card, if you lose the contents > of your C: drive you can no longer get to the > flash card since you've lost the driver. ... True. It might be worth getting some of the 1.5MB Dutch SRAM cards from Hal as backups. ... > I think flash cards are still a little riskier > but their advantages might outweigh the risk. ... Main advantage is a capacity of more than 2MB or 4MB, which can be _very_ useful. One disadvantage of SRAM cards is that you should/must replace the battery every year or so (except for the Dutch ones, which have a rechargeable internal battery). At that time, you must copy the data off to another storage medium, or it will be lost when you take out the old battery. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:02:40 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, I have tried to answer/clarify in the body of your text. I appreciate all help here. barry@FBTC.NET writes: > There is something different in your two configurations. You need to > find it. This is the frustrating part, I can't find it! I cut my teeth on DOS years ago, but I am telling my age now. > First I'd check in the system manager to be sure that you've > allocated the same amount of memory for system memory and disk > in both systems. 636 system memory on both > I'd also check that you allow the same amount of memory for dos apps. Clipboard 4k Static 10k DOS 96k on both > Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some difference. Run from Filer on both computers. > I'd also try opening and closing Filer in the LX that does let > you run the game without closing memo. If Filer has been open > it won't release it's memory. It's possible that you've used > Filer since your last reboot on one and not on the other. If > that turns out to be the case you can reboot to solve it. > There's also a program on Super called closefiler or clsfiler or > some such that will help you. A minor point. I am running the DOS game from Filer and starting Memo from the blue key. I get a memory error box telling me I must close sol.exe to start Memo. I might have to resort to closefiler. I had hoped for a simpler fix. > If none of these answers it I'd check for differences, even > small ones, elsewhere in your configuration. Look at config.sys > and autoexec.bat and also at any batch files they call. The only Config.sys or Autoexec.bat are on the D: drive. No changes. this is why it is so frustrating to me. Thanks for the help. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:32:18 -0400 Reply-To: "Francois G ." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Francois G ." Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... Comments: To: Dennis Vest In-Reply-To: <5a.13c67672.2804b2d0@aol.com>; from Dennis Vest on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:02:40PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 03:02:40PM -0400, Dennis Vest wrote: > > Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some > difference. > > Run from Filer on both computers. > > > I'd also try opening and closing Filer in the LX that does let > > you run the game without closing memo. If Filer has been open > > it won't release it's memory. It's possible that you've used > > Filer since your last reboot on one and not on the other. If > > that turns out to be the case you can reboot to solve it. > > There's also a program on Super called closefiler or clsfiler or > > some such that will help you. > > A minor point. I am running the DOS game from Filer and starting Memo from > the blue key. I get a memory error box telling me I must close sol.exe to > start Memo. I might have to resort to closefiler. I had hoped for a simpler > fix. I have to go through the archives to get the details on your problem, but on my palmtops, launching a DOS program from filer allocates all the available memory to the program, so running a SysMgr application other than Filer will always fail as there is no memory left over. I use the "|MEMSIZE" in in profiles under &More frequently, and when I need memo and a big dos session open, I load a big file into memo and then launch the program (or command.com) from filer. I load a big file because sometimes memo doesn't allocate enough memory and it's annoying getting an out of memory error mid-word. Hope this helps. --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:59:43 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Vest wrote: > Barry, > I have tried to answer/clarify in the body of your text. I appreciate all > help here. > > barry@FBTC.NET writes: > > > There is something different in your two configurations. You need to > > find it. > > This is the frustrating part, I can't find it! I cut my teeth on DOS years > ago, but I am telling my age now. > > > First I'd check in the system manager to be sure that you've > > allocated the same amount of memory for system memory and disk > > in both systems. > > 636 system memory on both > > > I'd also check that you allow the same amount of memory for dos apps. > > Clipboard 4k > Static 10k > DOS 96k > on both > > > Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some > difference. > > Run from Filer on both computers. > > > I'd also try opening and closing Filer in the LX that does let > > you run the game without closing memo. If Filer has been open > > it won't release it's memory. It's possible that you've used > > Filer since your last reboot on one and not on the other. If > > that turns out to be the case you can reboot to solve it. > > There's also a program on Super called closefiler or clsfiler or > > some such that will help you. > > A minor point. I am running the DOS game from Filer and starting Memo from > the blue key. I get a memory error box telling me I must close sol.exe to > start Memo. I might have to resort to closefiler. I had hoped for a simpler > fix. > > > If none of these answers it I'd check for differences, even > > small ones, elsewhere in your configuration. Look at config.sys > > and autoexec.bat and also at any batch files they call. > > The only Config.sys or Autoexec.bat are on the D: drive. No changes. this is > why it is so frustrating to me. > > Thanks for the help. > Dennis > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Do you have a pcmcia card in either machine? Did you try the pcmcia card in both machines? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:15:58 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > A minor point. I am running the DOS game from Filer and starting Memo from > the blue key. I get a memory error box telling me I must close sol.exe to > start Memo. I might have to resort to closefiler. I had hoped for a simpler > fix. > > > If none of these answers it I'd check for differences, even > > small ones, elsewhere in your configuration. Look at config.sys > > and autoexec.bat and also at any batch files they call. > > The only Config.sys or Autoexec.bat are on the D: drive. No changes. this is > why it is so frustrating to me. Could be a slight version difference in the LX ROM's? Drivers loaded by the two may differ just enough if that were the case. On both machines, exit the AppMgr entirely and run mem and compare the numbers. And to compare memory differences when running AppMgr, try this: - close all apps and go to Filer - go to d:\dos - highlight command.com and press Enter - now you should be at the command line, type "mem" - compare the numbers for both machines. - if you find differences, you might try "mem /c" to see how much memory each component is taking up. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:11:15 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010409113200.028c31f0@post1.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:33:48 +0800 Teo Soon Bock a =E9crit: > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. I don't think there is any general solution about sms<->email getaways. The main question would be : what do you want to do exactly ? Do you want receive sms on _your_ phone, or do you want send e-mail to other people ? Do these persons use the same provider than you ? Because, all is relevent to what your cellular phone provider offers, what the others providers of your country offer, and at which price... To give you an example, let me explain on what I am working these days... My need : To inform a certain number of persons, of an urgent event, by SMS. My tools : An HP200 + GSM phones + Phone subscription at Bouygues Telecom (on of the three French GSM providers) Well, with that, you could say : PDU exists... ;-) But, my constraints :=20 - SMS messages are not cheap in France (about $0.10 per message :-( ) BUT.... Bouygues provides a free e-mail service (called "6e sense", with e-mail notification by SMS... By chance, they made the error to do not send only "you have mail", but gives the sender, and the subject of the message... Then, what do forbid you to sent your message _in_ the subject ? ;-) (a very short message, because you have some irrelevent text. For the=20 "This is my message"=20 text, You will receive : "Email de: jbelin@altern.org "This is my message".=20 Consultez vos mails sur 661 ou wap 6e sens" Then you cant send only messages of about 80 characters... ) =20 But this method has two constraints : - They must create a "6e sens" e-mail account. - The persons who want to receive my infos must be subscribers to Bouygues (the others GSM providers don't offer the same service). Anyway, it works.=20 Then I have set a mailing list, where I store the 6sens e-mail address, and I send my messages to the mailing list. Messages sent from the HP200, of course ! ;-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:39:40 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hal Goldstein wrote: > This is a reminder to all -- we are selling 5 1.5 meg SRAM rechargeables for > $25. We don't have specs, and hopefully if 1 or 2 don't work, it is still a > good deal for anyone interested. (So far all we've tried work). Hal, IS it a good deal? 1.5 meg seems pretty small by today's standards of much larger flash cards. While $5/1.5M of storage might be good on a cost per byte value I can't help but think 1.5M isn't big enough to be useful as a removeable piece of storage. What am I missing? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:18:57 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > Could be a slight version difference in the LX ROM's? Drivers loaded by > the two may differ just enough if that were the case. On the offending machines are you sure that autoexec.bat and config.sys aren't loading from a pcmcia card at boot up? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:23:04 +0900 Reply-To: Akinobu Fukuzaki Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Akinobu Fukuzaki Subject: Re: Morphy One In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, > Any screen shots? :-) OK. I updated our web-site. just go http://www.morphyone.org -- ********************************************** Akinobu Fukuzaki akinobu@fukuzaki.net ********************************************** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:31:31 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: <20010411001951.3941.JBELIN@altern.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:11 AM 4/11/01 +0200, Jacques Belin wrote: > >> Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. > >I don't think there is any general solution about sms<->email getaways. > >The main question would be : what do you want to do exactly ? > >Do you want receive sms on _your_ phone, or do you want send e-mail to >other people ? Do these persons use the same provider than you ? > I would like to be notified of incoming email by sms on my handphone. Presently I am notified on my message pager, but it will not work when I am overseas on holiday etc. Whereas on a handphone, and with free incoming sms on a 'roaming' handphone, I can still be notified. So far, I have tested on http://www.halebop.com It works, but there is an unpredictable time lag, sometimes up to a day later. I am also testing http://www.myalert.com (5 SMS a day, and must set filters). So far not successful. Not too optimistic about this service for its sms functions, as when I tried to set my Time Zone, it has GMT+08:00: Irkutsk, instead of the more common Beijing, Taipei, Hong Kong and Singapore (where I am). I have not tested http://www.quios.com as I think it is not a free service. >To give you an example, let me explain on what I am working these days... > >My need : To inform a certain number of persons, of an urgent event, by >SMS. >My tools : An HP200 + GSM phones + Phone subscription at Bouygues >Telecom (on of the three French GSM providers) > If you are able to use your HP200LX to browse to http://www.worldremind.com (Singapore-based), you might be able to broadcast your sms messages by building customised Contacts List. The service is free, but have to sign up in order to login. You may want to test whether it works for handphones in your respective countries. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 02:22:18 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >I haven't heard of many (any) list members with a PCMCIA > >damaged pin problem. > > my 200LX smashed its head several times on concrete floors and each time the > pcmcia card dislodged, sometimes jumping out of it's ear altogether; so, > what holds the card in? Friction. Maybe _YOU_ have used too much lubricating jelly! (gd&r) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:28:49 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken, I am not a power user. Everything is pretty "out of the box". No autoexec.bat or config.sys files on A: or C: either. I am at a loss. Dennis << On the offending machines are you sure that autoexec.bat and config.sys aren't loading from a pcmcia card at boot up? >> ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:38:00 -0700 Reply-To: Craig Armstrong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Craig Armstrong Subject: Help: missing files on c: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello, This is my first time attempting to post. Several weeks ago, I accidently wacked my palmtop against a chair while it was on. And then it was off. Now, the most recently modified files on the c: drive are no longer there. I would like to use a program like Powerquest's Lost and Found to see if the files are still recoverable. I can boot from my flashram card, and use it to store the recovered files. Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS program capable of this? Thank you, Craig Armstrong ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:55:31 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: cpack200 and Win Me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, unlike some of our more experienced posters, I am definitely unable to correctly install the HP Connectivity Pack on my Windows Me OS. For one, I am unable to establish a remote or LapLink connection, no matter the baud rate chosen or the com port chosen on the PC. I have only one serial port on my pc and it is listed in the hardware profile as COM1, to which all attempts to change in settings fail and default to COM1. My other problem, CPACK somehow interfers with my ISP's mail server connection, using Outlook Express, making it impossible to access my mail or post until I restore my system to pre-Connectivity pack installation. I installed CPack using the virtual DOS machine of the Windows Me. If it were not for the connectivity problem and the mail server problem, I could say that the installation goes without a hitch 'cause CPack opens with my palmtop applications on the PC. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Paul Nault ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:41:14 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Durability of Serial port (was Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX) Longden Loo writes: > Purely cosmetic, of course, tho I now leave my flash card in the slot all > the time, and connect to an external modem via the serial cable (so of > course, the serial pins are now waiting to break), but that move was > motivated partly by a similar concern (as yours) about the PCMCIA pins. I > decided that an LX with damaged serial pins was much more usuable than one > with broken PCMCIA pins, so I moved the risk accordingly. After several years of daily use of the serial port to connect to an external modem, I find that unless you really try to break the pins on the serial port, by forcing the serial plug incorrectly, the wear on the serial cable is greater than the wear on the serial port. I have gone through two serial cables on the same HPLX and the serial port is showing less wear and tear than I am! -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:39:50 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: Re: cpack200 and Win Me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > go to your setting on 200lx and make sure the port is enable. > don't worry the LISTLX will solve it. > ----------Bob Bob-- I installed from within WinMe as well, in the DOS virtual machine. Are you installing from the Run line and not using the virtual DOS mode? Also, my port is enabled on the palm. I will check into your suggestion. Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:01:08 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: Re: cpack200 and Win Me--part3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit reinstalled cpack from the RUN feature of the START button. Still unable to connect. However, now it seems my mail server is no longer affected. Also, when I try to activate LapLink, dialog box pops up saying insufficient resources--this is surprising with the memory I have on board. Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:13:31 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fwd: Brain Boxes get second Bluetooth approval MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, those of you interested in Bluetooth for the palmtop may remember that I asked Brainboxes some weeks ago about their RS232 dongle. I used an online form for that question, but I didn't get a reply yet. Instead I got a newsletter from Brainboxes. It seems that I got subscribed to their mailing list by using that form. Below is a copy of that newsletter. Maybe interesting for some of you. I asked once more, this time by email using the email address at the bottom of the newsletter (stephen@brainboxes.com). Hopefully they will reply this time. I'll report as soon as I get a reply. Here is the newsletter: --- begin of forwarded message --- From: Matthew Back Subject: Brain Boxes get second Bluetooth approval Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:11:13 +0100 To: 200lx@gmx.de Brain Boxes lead the way with a second Bluetooth(tm) accredited product The Bluetooth Special Interest Group have granted approval to a second Brain Boxes designed and manufactured product, the 'Compact Flash Bluetooth Card'. This makes Brain Boxes one of just a handful of companies world wide to get two PC based products Bluetooth qualified. While there are over 2000 companies globally who are involved with the Bluetooth Special Interest Group, Brain Boxes were only the 50th company to actually get a product approved for use under the Bluetooth trademark, in February this year. This ranks them alongside the likes of Ericsson, Toshiba, Sony, Motorola and various other major blue-chip players in the technology market. Eamonn Walsh, Managing Director at Brain Boxes explains: "This second product approval clearly establishes that we are one of the most proactive and innovative companies in the Bluetooth arena." And now, the 60 strong team at Liverpool based Brain Boxes are beginning to see a great return on their #2m investment over the last two years. Mr Walsh continues: "Bluetooth SIG approval is very difficult to achieve, because the standards set out are exceptionally high. But we firmly believe that in meeting them, and gaining this second qualification, we are ensuring that we are at the forefront of this major wireless technological revolution." The latest product in the Brain Boxes range to achieve the required accreditation is the 'Compact Flash Card' that is designed for use with hand held PC's, and will enable seamless communication between portable devices including PDA's, laptops and other PC's. Like all Bluetooth products being developed by Brain Boxes, the Compact Flash Card is compatible with Microsoft's Windows operating systems. Eamonn concludes: "At Brain Boxes, we have always been dedicated to the design and manufacture of the very best products. This accreditation effectively confirms that our standards are of the very highest order and we expect that the Compact Flash Card will be a major seller once it gets shipped to market in Q2." **ends** Note to Editors About Brain Boxes: Since it was established in 1984 Brain Boxes has grown rapidly and is now a key player in mobile data communications and EPOS worldwide. The company develops and owns all of its own technology, allowing customisation of products for large volume niche markets. Based in Liverpool, UK, it has a team of highly qualified software and hardware designers, matched by a world-class volume manufacturing facility. The company's expertise in hardware and software development, and in manufacturing PCI, PCMCIA, USB and Bluetooth wireless technology, is geared towards three main areas: Serial Communications, EPOS and Mobile Data Communications. About Bluetooth Wireless Technology: Bluetooth wireless technology seamlessly connects PCs, mobile phones and other devices so that data can be transferred between them. Bluetooth wireless technology will replace the wired data connections between devices, enabling a freedom of movement that will revolutionise communication methods over the next three to five years. Bluetooth products developed by Brain Boxes include: 7 PCMCIA Bluetooth Card 7 Bluetooth Compact Flash Card 7 RS232 Bluetooth Dongle 7 USB Bluetooth Dongle 7 Bluetooth Ethernet Point Further Information Stephen Evans, Marketing Manager. Tel: 0151 220 2500 Email: stephen@brainboxes.com Issued by TDM Marketing Associates on behalf of Brain Boxes. Contact: Ed Beattie / Greg Roche Tel: 01625 575592 Fax: 01625 574313 Email: ed.beattie@tdm.co.uk / greg.roche@tdm.co.uk --- end of forwarded message --- -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:02:18 -0500 Reply-To: Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: cpack200 and Win Me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul wrote: > Well, unlike some of our more experienced posters, I am definitely unable to > correctly install the HP Connectivity Pack on my Windows Me OS. Interesting this came up. Just yesterday I was talking to one of my co-workers who installed Win ME on a machine at work for evaluation. His conclusion: "It's a terrible product!" He didn't really go into details other than to say that he couldn't get a lot of the software he has to install on most machines to work properly. Can you fall back to Win 98 Second Edition? Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:15:33 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russ On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:39:40 +0000, Russel Brooks wrote: > 1.5 meg seems pretty small by today's standards of much larger > flash cards. While $5/1.5M of storage might be good on a cost > per byte value I can't help but think 1.5M isn't big enough to > be useful as a removeable piece of storage. At least for owners of 1MB or 2MB machines it might be a good backup medium. At least if you don't use jsut one of them, but all five or so sequentially. Every day or every other da a backup on one of these cards, and you can be sure you have a good backup which is not older than 2 or 3 days, even if one of these cards fail. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:20:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fwd: RE: RS232 bluetooth dongle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, finally I got an answer from Brainboxes. Below is a copy of it with my original mail attached. I'll stay in touch with them. Sounds if no drivers were needed for this module and if someone will spend the money and buy one once it is available, I'll gladly try to embed it into the LX's case and develop a power supply, if possible directly from the main batteries of the LX. GTX daniel --- begin of forwarded message --- From: Stephen Evans To: Daniel Hertrich Cc: Ian Brew Subject: RE: RS232 bluetooth dongle Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 10:12:45 +0100 Hi Daniel, Thanks for your email. It sounds like you have an interesting application for Bluetooth. The product that you would need from our range is the BL-521 Bluetooth RS232 Converter - this is the product which is completely transparent to the operating system (it behaves like an RS232 cable connection). In its first revision it will require an external power connection, as even standard RS232 connections cannot supply sufficient power. The product is intended to be available at the end of this year. Technically it would be possible to embed the product internally (if the dimensions of the 200LX allow), but this would obviously require development effort. I hope this helps, Best regards, Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hertrich Ýmailto:d.hertrich@gmx.de¨ Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 08:32 PM To: stephen@brainboxes.com Subject: RS232 bluetooth dongle Hello on the Internet I saw that Brainboxes make a Bluetooth RS232 dongle. This could be an interesting product for all users of the Hewlett Packard 200LX palmtop, because this palmtop runs under DOS and thus there don't exist any drivers necessary for all the Bluetooth PCMCIA cards and your new Bluetooth "Compact Flash" card. I know the connector of the dongle doesn't fit into the RS232 port of the 200LX, but this should be a minor problem. Adapters could be used or the connector could be modified. The more interesting things are: 1. What about power consumption? Does the dongle need an external power supply? If yes, what voltage, what current? If not, would the port of the HP 200LX provide enough power for the dongle? (the port isn't quite standard RS232, because it has only a signal voltage of about 6V) 2. Is really no driver needed, i.e. sould it be a totally transparent serial connection to e.g. a mobile phone? 3. What's the price range of the dongle and who sells it? 4. What is the working range of the Bluetooth radio signals? 5. Do you think that the internals of the dongle could be directly implanted into the case of the 200LX? That would increase the usability significantly. This dongle could be of big interest to a still huge international community of 200LX users, and since your dongle seems to be the only one which is available at the moment and which COULD work, we all would be very thankful if you took the time to answer these questions! And please allow me to forward your reply to the HP 200LX mailing list (about 700-1000 readers currently). Thanks a lot Daniel Hertrich -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 --- end of forwarded message --- -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:30:29 -0500 Reply-To: Thomas Rundel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Thomas Rundel Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:14:59 -0400, Martin Bergvill = wrote: > Sounds great. I have not tried out Ebay. I have searched for a Rex3 > backup card. But I can not find anyone shipping outside Us. I tried = the > elv.de which Daniel told me about. But they have not answered my = email. You can order online from their Web site, www.elv.de and see if they still have the Rex3. Tom -- Dipl.-Inform. Thomas Rundel Rundel Datentechnik, Rappenstr. 20, 73033 Goeppingen, Germany Phone +49-7161-156870, Fax +49-7161-1568711, www.rundel.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 06:37:50 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... Comments: To: Dennis Vest > > Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some > difference. > > Run from Filer on both computers. Hello Dennis I tried running a dos program from filer then starting memo with a blue key and got the message that it had to close a program to start memo. Filer allocates all availible memory when you start a program from it so it looks like the problem is with the lx that allows you to start memo when a program has been run from filer. Filer, on that machine, isn't allocating all the meory like it should be. Try running dos from the option menu in filer and see how much memory filer allocates. It should be about 30k less than what system manager shows. If it shows less than filer has a problem. HTH John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:20:48 -0400 Reply-To: Steve Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Craig Armstrong wrote: > Now, the most recently modified files on the c: drive are no longer there. I > wou > ld like to use a program like Powerquest's Lost and Found to see if the files > ar > e still recoverable. I can boot from my flashram card, and use it to store the > r > ecovered files. > > Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS program capable of > this? You could try one of the various UNERASE or UNDELETE programs from Norton Utilities, Central Point, or MS-DOS 6. Norton DISKEDIT makes it easy to examine what remains read- able on the disk. It is also possible to use DEBUG to read the data on the disk. Nice, as DEBUG is built into the palmtop. Not so nice as it lends new meaning to the word tedious when you try to recover a file. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:34:25 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20010411082107.1b57b230@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Steve wrote: > Craig Armstrong wrote: > > > Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS program > > capable of this? > > You could try one of the various UNERASE or UNDELETE > programs from Norton Utilities, Central Point, or MS-DOS 6. > Norton DISKEDIT makes it easy to examine what remains read- > able on the disk. It is also possible to use DEBUG to read > the data on the disk. Nice, as DEBUG is built into the > palmtop. Not so nice as it lends new meaning to the word > tedious when you try to recover a file. Another option might be to try the undelete function in Filer. It's under the File command. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 07:27:29 -0700 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Free PCXViewer program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi List, I have just posted a free PCXViewer program on my personal website: http://www.geocities.com/alfred1520/#pcxviewer Quote from documentation: PV is a bi-level PCX graphics file viewer. It runs on the HP200LX as well as any standard XT compatible computers. Two unique features make it especially useful on the HP200LX: 1. The entire image is loaded into the RAM for fast scrolling and panning. 2. The entire 640 x 200 CGA screen may be divided into up to 8 horizontal stripes for displaying a thin stripes of an image wider than the horizontal screen resolution of 640 pixels. This allows a thin but complete horizontal stripe of an image up to 5120 pixels wide to be visible at once. This is particularly useful for reading the text of a faxed document whose paragraph that is as wide as the page. Enjoy. Best Regards, Alfred ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:12:55 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Thank you and another (HP95) question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Feldman wrote: >> larger cards can be used, since they have >> internal logic to make themselves work with the >> limited number of address lines in the 95lx PCMCIA slot. > > The useable capacity of a flash card is limited to 32MB > by DOS 3.22. Thus, you cannot use Stacker on a 20MB > card (for the full card) because the capacity will be more > than 32MB. That's true but the hardware of the 95lx further limits the memory on a PCMCIA card to 4 meg. (It might even be 2 meg. I'm not sure now) It doesn't supply enough address lines to the PCMCIA slot for more than that. Flash cards have internal logic that fools the 95lx somehow. I used to know how it was done but I can't remember now. As I remember it, the 95lx was designed before PCMCIA flash cards came into being and the largest sram cards were 4 meg, if I'm not mistaken. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:22:40 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Thank you and another (HP95) question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Feldman wrote: >> The drawbacks of flash memory are that >> when the 95lx crashes, it's contents can be lost >> in a crash since they don't normally >> have write protect switches. > > I have not experienced this, but that is not to say it > can't happen. I'm guessing that this can happen. I know that the sram cards can be clobbered during a crash if they aren't write protected. But I never actually used a flash card till I got a 100lx. >> Another drawback is that it takes a considerable burst >> of power to write to the card. This has caused writes >> to fail when the batteries are low and that corrupts >> the card so that it needs tobe re-formatted. > > On my 95LX, I get a series of black lines across the screen during > reads/writes, > due to power consumption, I suspect. I have had write failures using > VR when the batteries get below 2.2V or so, but they have never > corrupted the card (a 10MB SunDisk SDP5). This also hasn't happened to me either, but there were a number of reports of this in HPHAND and HP finally issued their suggestions to avoid the problem. >> I think flash cards are still a little riskier >> but their advantages might outweigh the risk. > > Main advantage is a capacity of more than 2MB or 4MB, > which can be _very_ useful. > > One disadvantage of SRAM cards is that you > should/must replace the battery every year or so > (except for the Dutch ones, which have a rechargeable > internal battery). At that time, you must copy the data > off to another storage medium, or it will be lost when you > take out the old battery. It's not quite that bad. You can remove the sram battery while it's in the 95lx and the card will be maintained by the 95lx as long as it remains on. It only takes a minute to change the battery. I always get a little nervous doing this and a couple of times I got distracted and let the 95lx time out and turn itself off and the card did get clobbered. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:31:42 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 Apr 2001 to 10 Apr 2001 (#2001-125) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Vest wrote: >The only Config.sys or Autoexec.bat are on the D: > drive. No changes. this is why it is so frustrating to me. It sounds like you've covered all the bases. But I still suspect a configuration difference somewhere. I have both 1 meg and 2 meg 200lx's and I keep the configuration on a flash card on both. If I swap the flash card and reboot I've also swapped configurations. I do a lot of compiling and in the days when I used Sysmgr I had to manage my memory fairly carefully. Mostly because of the linker. So I often had memory problems. But when I'd swap configurations the memory problems, if there were any at the time, always went along with the configuration. Something else just occurred to me. I wonder if it might be a rom difference? If one has a later rom revision that uses a few more bytes of ram or a few less bytes that could cause it. But if I remember right, they stabilized the rom revisions very early in the life of the 200lx. Or, it could be a hardware problem or the difference from 1 meg to 2 meg, as you suggested. I still will be surprised if that turns out to be the case. But then, I've been surprised before. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:39:04 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 Apr 2001 to 10 Apr 2001 (#2001-125) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > 1.5 meg seems pretty small by today's standards of much larger > flash cards. While $5/1.5M of storage might be good on a cost > per byte value I can't help but think 1.5M isn't big enough to > be useful as a removeable piece of storage. > > What am I missing? I have a couple of 95lxs and I still use 2 meg sram cards with them. It's pretty limiting but I learned to live with it when that was all new. I use them for assembly programming only, but they have everything I need for that. I don't think either card is much more than half full. My first 95lx was a 512k model and I bought a 512k sram card for it. I think that card cost close to $500 at the time. I used that configuration for about 2 years. When prices came down and I got the first 2 meg card, I was in heaven. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:48:15 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Craig Armstrong wrote: > Now, the most recently modified files on the c: drive > are no longer there. I would like to use a program > like Powerquest's Lost and Found to see if the files > are still recoverable. I can boot from my flashram card, > and use it to store the recovered files. > > Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS > program capable of this? You can use Norton utilities. You need an older version. I think version 4 or 5. I have nu on my 200lx but I can't remember which version it is. You might try their Disk Doctor program but I personally would use nu and recover the files manually if you know how. There is a much greater chance of success. And a lot more work. :) You're right about doing this from your flash card. Don't put anything on c: until you've recovered everything from it you can. Chances are if you do you'll be overwriting something you want to recover. If you know how the directory and the fat table work and you want to do this manually, send me a private email to barryATfbtcDOTnet. You know what to do with the upper case letters. I'll send nu in a reply. But if you aren't familiar with the way the disk system works I'd try something else instead. Manual recovery is tedious and you really need to understand the fat table. Barry Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:46:38 +1000 Reply-To: Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: In-Reply-To: <200104110238.TAA14079@mail11.bigmailbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:38 PM 10/04/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, This is my first time attempting to post. > >Several weeks ago, I accidently wacked my palmtop against a chair while it was on. And then it was off. > >Now, the most recently modified files on the c: drive are no longer there. I would like to use a program like Powerquest's Lost and Found to see if the files are still recoverable. I can boot from my flashram card, and use it to store the recovered files. > >Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS program capable of this? I've used Mace utilities for this. DOS 3.x plus compatible. Russell PS Mace and Norton competed in the recovery area for a while. I have an original of Mace 4.10. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:56:04 -0400 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, >> Actually I was using NiMH batteries for a awhile but stopped because several people (maybe on Compuserve) claimed they will = freeze at 32 degrees. Anyone knowif this is correct?<< I have small mp3 player that I am using for skiing and notice cold = weather quickly renders alkaline batteries useless as they get cold (warm = the player back up and it has power again). I have now switched to = NiCds, but still have to make sure it doesn't get too cold. I thought = NiMH had no loss of power because of getting cold. Can anyone substantiate= if this is so? Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:05:46 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Value of 1.5M PC card (was: HPLX-L Digest (#2001-125)) In-Reply-To: <002001c0c295$2adfce80$54fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Barry wrote: > Russel Brooks wrote: > > 1.5 meg seems pretty small by today's standards of much larger > > flash cards. While $5/1.5M of storage might be good on a cost > > per byte value I can't help but think 1.5M isn't big enough to > > be useful as a removeable piece of storage. > > I have a couple of 95lxs and I still use 2 meg sram cards with > them. It's pretty limiting but I learned to live with it when > that was all new. I use them for assembly programming only, but > they have everything I need for that. I don't think either card > is much more than half full. I would also point out that unless you have extremely large PIM databases, a 1.5M card should be plenty to serve as backup for configuration files (e.g., 2x speed drivers) and PIM data. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:33:42 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" More info: Energizer lithium cells are rated for operating temperatures from -40C to +60C. The service time is shorter at colder temperatures, of course. A 100ma continuous drain at room temperature (21C) gives about 1000 hours, while it gives only 300-400 hours at -40C (-40F). Bob Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:52:23 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (Sorry if this is a duplicate post, but my first reply seems like it = did not get through.) From the Energizer site http://data.energizer.com/batteryinfo/application_manuals/nickel_metal_h= ydri de.htm : "ÝFor NiMH cells t¨he principal environmental influences on the = location and shape of the voltage profile are the discharge temperature and = discharge rate. As indicated in Figure 10 ÝChart shows voltage of about 1.17V at zero celcius, 1.2V at 20 celcius or 68F, and about 1.24V at 40 celcius¨, = small variations from room temperature (=B1 10oC) so not appreciably affect = the nickel-metal hydride cell voltage profile. However major excursions, especially lower temperatures, will reduce the mid-point voltage while maintaining the general shape of the voltage profile. The primary effects of cell temperature on dischargeable capacity, = assuming adequate charging, are at lower temperatures (<0oC) as shown in Figure = 12 ÝChart shows capacity is about 80% at zero celcius and about 50% at = minus 10 celcius¨. Use of nickel metal hydride cells in cold environments may = force significant capacity derating from room-temperature values. " The Application manual for NiCads shows a slightly better capacity = curve: about 80% at zero, 70% at -10 and 58% at -20 Celcius. They note that = NiCads should not be _charged_ at low temperatures. Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Larry Castor Ýmailto:castorlw@YAHOO.COM¨ Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:56 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Ken, >> Actually I was using NiMH batteries for a awhile but stopped because several people (maybe on Compuserve) claimed they will freeze at 32 degrees. Anyone knowif this is correct?<< I have small mp3 player that I am using for skiing and notice cold = weather quickly renders alkaline batteries useless as they get cold (warm the = player back up and it has power again). I have now switched to NiCds, but = still have to make sure it doesn't get too cold. I thought NiMH had no loss = of power because of getting cold. Can anyone substantiate if this is so? Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 16:23:46 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: scandinavian DB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:43:48 -0700, hobchi wrote: > Hiya Scandinavians on the list > Wood someone from scandinavia care > to look at my scandinavia DB and > add or comment on it? Hi Mail it to me and I will have a look. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:23:12 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From the Energizer site http://data.energizer.com/batteryinfo/application_manuals/nickel_metal_h= ydri de.htm : "ÝFor NiMH cells t¨he principal environmental influences on the = location and shape of the voltage profile are the discharge temperature and = discharge rate. As indicated in Figure 10 ÝChart shows voltage of about 1.17V at zero celcius, 1.2V at 20 celcius or 68F, and about 1.24V at 40 celcius¨, = small variations from room temperature (=B1 10oC) so not appreciably affect = the nickel-metal hydride cell voltage profile. However major excursions, especially lower temperatures, will reduce the mid-point voltage while maintaining the general shape of the voltage profile. The primary effects of cell temperature on dischargeable capacity, = assuming adequate charging, are at lower temperatures (<0oC) as shown in Figure = 12 ÝChart shows capacity is about 80% at zero celcius and about 50% at = minus 10 celcius¨. Use of nickel metal hydride cells in cold environments may = force significant capacity derating from room-temperature values. " The Application manual for NiCads shows a slightly better capacity = curve: about 80% at zero, 70% at -10 and 58% at -20 Celcius. They note that = NiCads should not be _charged_ at low temperatures. Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Larry Castor Ýmailto:castorlw@YAHOO.COM¨ Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 11:56 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Ken, >> Actually I was using NiMH batteries for a awhile but stopped because several people (maybe on Compuserve) claimed they will freeze at 32 degrees. Anyone knowif this is correct?<< I have small mp3 player that I am using for skiing and notice cold = weather quickly renders alkaline batteries useless as they get cold (warm the = player back up and it has power again). I have now switched to NiCds, but = still have to make sure it doesn't get too cold. I thought NiMH had no loss = of power because of getting cold. Can anyone substantiate if this is so? Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:37:44 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Now, the most recently modified files on the c: drive are no longer there. > I would like to use a program like Powerquest's Lost and Found to see if > the files are still recoverable. I can boot from my flashram card, and use > it to store the recovered files. > > > >Is it possible to recover the data? Is there a x186 DOS program capable of > this? You've received a lot of good suggestions but my question is - did the hp reinitialize itself during this process? If so, the data would be gone. And do you have a memory enhanced hp? If so, are you sure the drivers show the proper portion of the internal memory? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:57:14 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Larry, On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:56:04 -0400, Larry Castor wrote: > I have small mp3 player that I am using for skiing and notice cold weather quickly renders alkaline batteries useless as they get cold (warm > the player back up and it has power again). I have now switched to NiCds, but still have to make sure it doesn't get too cold. I thought > NiMH had no loss of power because of getting cold. Can anyone substantiate if this is so? It's logical because in every battery chemical reactions are responsible for the power and every chemical reaction gets slower the nearer you get to the absolute zero temperature (0K). I think Lithium batteries don't suffer from low temperatures as much as other batteries because Lithium is a metal which even begins to burn in normal room temperatures, so it is still quite active in low temperatures. That's what is left from the chemistry lessons in school, several years ago ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:26:12 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Seems like the list server (or my email system) was acting up a bit today. The last of my 3 posts (stamped 3:19 PM) on rechargeables was actually the first sent, sometime before 12:30. The second was the one below (stamped 12:34, still a bit late), and the third sent was a second copy of the first, which ended up with a 3:17 time stamp. Sorry for the extra bandwidth. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Feldman, Robert Ýmailto:Robert_Feldman@JDEDWARDS.COM¨ Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 12:34 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Rechargeables? More info: Energizer lithium cells are rated for operating temperatures from -40C to +60C. The service time is shorter at colder temperatures, of course. A 100ma continuous drain at room temperature (21C) gives about 1000 hours, while it gives only 300-400 hours at -40C (-40F). Bob Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:17:08 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: email -> sms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 09:31:31 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: Teo > I would like to be notified of incoming email by sms on my > handphone. I have this service through my cellprovider. Very usefull. But a major drag when I recieve spam. > Presently I am notified on my message pager, but it will not > work when I am overseas on holiday etc. Offtopic: I have seen lately that "two way pagers" are hot in the US. These machines are used to send sms to from as we do with our gsmphones yes? > Whereas on a handphone, and with > free incoming sms on a 'roaming' handphone, I can still be notified. Incoming sms is probably free too. > So far, I have tested on http://www.halebop.com It works, but there is an > unpredictable time lag, sometimes up to a day later. I have not looked into it in detail, but you can set it up to send you sms whenever you get mail to whatever popaccount/emailadress you set up? > I have not tested http://www.quios.com as I think it is not a free service. I have a quios thingy on my website. Whenever somebody writes something there I get only a nagmessage To my cellphone that I am out of Q-points.. So yes they are not free. > >To give you an example, let me explain on what I am working these days... > > > >My need : To inform a certain number of persons, of an urgent event, by > >SMS. > >My tools : An HP200 + GSM phones + Phone subscription at Bouygues > >Telecom (on of the three French GSM providers) > > > > If you are able to use your HP200LX to browse to http://www.worldremind.com > (Singapore-based), you might be able to broadcast your sms messages by > building customised Contacts List. The service is free, but have to sign > up in order to login. You may want to test whether it works for handphones > in your respective countries. You could also cruise over to excell.com or Dot something. Maybe they have a freeservice that could be adapted for your purpose Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:17:10 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: RS232 bluetooth dongle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:20:58 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, Hello there.. > finally I got an answer from Brainboxes. > Below is a copy of it with my original mail attached. Read it with great interest. > I'll stay in touch with them. Yes please do. This is interesting. > Sounds if no drivers were needed for this module and if someone will > spend the money and buy one once it is available, I'll gladly try to > embed it into the LX's case and develop a power supply, if possible > directly from the main batteries of the LX. When are they planning to release it? Should we go for the first batch or wait for the second version which usually has less bugs? I will probably go for the Nokia 6310 BT cellphone when it is released probably christmas 2001. It "only" supports three gprs timeslots in comparising to the Ericsson R520 which supports four. (Ericssons R520 are withdrawn from the market now because of some powershortage problem + the gprs did not function correct..) > And please allow me to forward your reply to the HP 200LX mailing list > (about 700-1000 readers currently). Are we really that many on this list? Wow.. Keep us posted about BT and the Hplx Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:17:14 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Rechargeables? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 11:33:42 -0600, Feldman, Robert wrote: > More info: > > Energizer lithium cells are rated for operating temperatures from -40C to > +60C. The service time is shorter at colder temperatures, of course. A > 100ma continuous drain at room temperature (21C) gives about 1000 hours, > while it gives only 300-400 hours at -40C (-40F). On a lx? Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:17:23 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: eBay on the Palmtop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:30:29 -0500, Thomas Rundel wrote: Thomas > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001 23:14:59 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > Sounds great. I have not tried out Ebay. I have searched for a Rex3 > > backup card. But I can not find anyone shipping outside Us. I tried the > > elv.de which Daniel told me about. But they have not answered my email. > > You can order online from their Web site, www.elv.de and see if they > still have the Rex3. They had a webmail thingy I filled out and posted online. They have not answered. But thats okey. I have something going..:-) Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:40:55 -0500 Reply-To: lamaide@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John LaMaide Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: To: isobar@BCPL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I prefer NiMH as you can recharge them any or all the time and there doesn't appear to be any memory effect like old Nicads. But for long storage Alkalines are better as NiMH loose there charge more quickly then Nicads when left on the shelf or in the LX. I have to recharge the spare set I carry so they are not dead when I need them most. Actually I bought the IKEA AA's to carry as spares last week. John N9PHX On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:55:52 -0400 Robert Kirk writes: > John... So which do you prefer, the NICAD or NiMHs? Do you charge > the > NiMHs in the LX or externally? > > Bob Kirk > N3OZB > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:50:51 +0300 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: Dissassembling 200 lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C0C2F3.00EC46E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C0C2F3.00EC46E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can someone tell me about the link(s) with pictures showing how to = dissassemble 200lx or do-it yorself like sites about 200lx. I need it = because I am here alone, without any technical support from HP = Turkey;and I own a 6 years old 200lx working properly but physically in = a bad situation. Thanks a lot... 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Can someone tell me about the link(s) = with pictures=20 showing how to dissassemble 200lx or do-it yorself like sites about = 200lx. I=20 need it because I am here alone, without any technical support from HP=20 Turkey;and I own a 6 years old 200lx working properly but physically in = a bad=20 situation. Thanks a lot... Bulent
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C0C2F3.00EC46E0-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:36:03 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Francois, It was my understanding that the setting of DOS memory under system setup limited this....is this not true? I will try the large file thing and see if it works. Dennis > launching a DOS program from filer allocates all the available > memory to the program, so running a SysMgr application other than Filer will > always fail as there is no memory left over. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:36:10 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, et al, OK, why is the DOS memory under Setup user selectable if filer allocates all memory to DOS. Would it make a difference if I ran the program after getting a DOS prompt from Filer? In theory, anyway? How about if I opened several internal apps before using filer to run Solitaire? Or even just Memo? Once Memo was closed, would the already running DOS program be given all of the memory that Memo had been using? I hope I don't appear anal. I am just puzzled to no end. Thanks Dennis > Filer allocates all available memory when you start a program > from it so it looks like the problem is with the lx that allows you > to start memo when a program has been run from filer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:08:33 -0700 Reply-To: Karl DeLyria Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Karl DeLyria Subject: 200 LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Well I am finally going to have to give up my 200LX's I have two, one is 5meg the other 6 meg. Neither of then have showed any sign of hinge cracks. I also have the two serial cables, 1 20 meg PCMCIA card and a 15 meg PCMCIA card and misc. software. I would like to sell the whole lot. I thought I would post it here before I put it on ebay. Karl Long time LX user. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:54:27 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Durability of pcmcia slot on 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> what holds the card in? >It's "pinned in". Nothing (or no one) is likely to move with 70 or >so pins stuck in (body-piercers excluded). >Friction. Maybe _YOU_ have used too much lubricating jelly! (gd&r) pardon me? i don't smear this stuff on cards because my card stays put - i backup with ConnPack. ... this (off course) being not the only reason! >My LX looks like my tired (but proud) Toyota Tercel (310K miles >and going strong). 310k on one 4cyl gas engine? ahh, those mild dry southern Cal winters - combined with your non-testosterone sloooooow motions around town :) nat fra doc lx100/200 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:29:35 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FA: Megahertz Pocket MODEM & adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:25:37 -0500 (EST) Hi All: More "spring office cleaning" ;-) Megahertz P2144 Pocket MODEM 14.4/14.4kbps DATA/FAX No docs or manual, but I tested both DATA(WWW/LX) & FAX(BGFAX) with my LX and it worked fine. I am including a NULL adapter as well. item# 1229627616 Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:31:00 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: HP95LX and ACT! (1.1.1) Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:42:21 -0600, "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > The limit on Flash RAM cards would be 32MB, imposed by DOS 3.22. SanDisk > says (or said, see below) the following series of cards will work in the > 95LX (with driver software): SDP5-X, SDPL5-X, and SDP5A-X (where X is the > card size in MB). Ýsnip¨ > I do believe the SDP cards are 3V or 5V, however.) The number in the card part number is the voltage. All the cards you list are 5 volt cards. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:46:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Blah...Just Blah.." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Blah...Just Blah.." Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... Comments: To: Dennis Vest In-Reply-To: ; from Dennis Vest on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:36:10PM -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:36:10PM -0400, Dennis Vest wrote: > John, et al, > OK, why is the DOS memory under Setup user selectable if filer allocates all > memory to DOS. Would it make a difference if I ran the program after getting > a DOS prompt from Filer? In theory, anyway? The DOS Memory setting under Setup affects the amount of memory the Application Manager gives the DOS Shell profile, and if no DOS shell is open yet, the <123> hotkey. DOS programs launched from Filer get all available memory left allocated to the shell. If you try to launch anything else, you should get a "Not Enough Memory... Close Something" message. On my 4mb 200lx, apllication manager reports 403k free. If I run command.com via filer without closing apllication manager, it reports 0k free. if I try to run memo, out of memory. And since app manager uses 17k, and memo wants more than that to start, I'd have to close the dos session. running d:\dos\mem.com reveals 373760 bytes free. If I open memo & appman before starting command.com via filer, d:\dos\mem.com shows 343920 bytes free. I can switch between dos, filer, memo, appman freely. if i try to run anything else, I need to close some sessions. memo appears to need 29k free to start with an empty file and have some buffer space. Setup has 300k allocated to DOS memory, If I start dos from appman or via <123>, i have 304288 bytes free. As an aside, launching a program directly from filer gives it more memory than launching command.com from filer and running it from the prompt, if it's not a batch file: d:\dos\mem.com run directly from filer: 393648 bytes free d:\dos\mem.com via command.com from filer: 373760 bytes free both with nothing else open but filer. This behavior has been consistent between 5 200lx and 2 100lx i've used over the years. > How about if I opened several internal apps before using filer to run > Solitaire? Or even just Memo? Once Memo was closed, would the already running > DOS program be given all of the memory that Memo had been using? Once a DOS program is running, the amount of memory available to it is static. So if you close memo after DOS is run, the memory goes back to the free pool. If you opened 5 internal apps, then Solitaire, then closed all the apps, you should have the 5 apps memory availble to start other internal apps. If you run Solitaire from filer, and nothing else is open, all you ram should be locked to dos until you close it. That by itself is a good reason to setup frequently used DOS programs in appman and run them from there instead of filer. --francois ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 05:16:47 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > It was my understanding that the setting of DOS memory under system setup > limited this....is this not true? I will try the large file thing and see if > it works. Remember there are a number of ways of getting to dos or running dos programs. The setup affects only if you shell to dos from filer as opposed to pointing to a program and launching it directly from the highlight. It's been so long but is it Ctrl-123? I reassigned the Quicken key to launch dos years ago! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:08:31 -0400 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: email -> sms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. Try www.winbox.com \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:46:14 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:08 AM 4/12/01 -0400, Yves Leurquin wrote: >> Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. > >Try www.winbox.com > Just visited the site, and saw the following notice:- We regret to inform you that the Winbox.com website will be stopped in the very near future. Your email boxes will no longer be available. We kindly ask you to save or forward any mails that you wish to keep to another mailbox as soon as possible. We regret any inconvenience that this may cause you. The Winbox Team Guess they ran out of financing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:37:46 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Login to WinNT/2K domain from LX+ethernet pcmcia - no way? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Is there absolutely no way to login to Windows NT/2000 domain from any DOS client running on the 200LX with Accton/Silicom ethernet card? I know M$ MS-DOS Client 3.0 is not good, cause on 8086 it can run w/ basic redirector only, thus no domain support. Did Jorgen finally give up trying? Did he get to verify that utils extracted from old OS/2 v1.x and 2.x are of no help? It is a must to give up networking if you face an NT domain scenario? Thanks in advance, Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:22:38 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Dissassembling 200 lx Comments: cc: Bulent Bicioglu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Can someone tell me about the link(s) with pictures showing how to dissassemble > 200lx or do-it yorself like sites about 200lx. I need it because I am here > alone, without any technical support from HP Turkey;and I own a 6 years old > 200lx working properly but physically in a bad situation. Thanks a lot... Bulent Try these: http://www.hplx.net/hardware.apa.big.html http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:34:44 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 10 Apr 2001 to 11 Apr 2001 - Special issue (#2001-126) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John LaMaide wrote: > But for long storage Alkalines are better as > NiMH loose there charge more quickly then > Nicads when left on the shelf or in the LX. I'd always heard that, too, so I never used NIMH in the LX. They get used intermittently and sit on the shelf a lot since I retired. But I did get a bunch of NIMH batteries for my camera. It came with Kodak NIMH and I bought spares from www.thomasdistributing.com. I bought Nexcells because they're considerably cheaper than NIMH and had higher mAh rating. I've found that I also use the camera intermittently but the batteries in it, and the spares for it, seem to stay charged on the shelf longer than my Radio Shack HiCap nicads do. So I read up a little on their site and it seems that that's a feature of the newer technology NIHM batteries. Yesterday I ordered 16 more Nexcell NIMH 1600 mAh batteries at $2.35 each. They also have 1700 mAh batteries now. I forget whether that's Kodak or Maha. But they cost a little more and I've had good results with Nexcell so I decided to stay with them. By the way, I've been buying stuff from Thomas Distributing for a while and I've always done it on their website and the stuff always arrives just when it's supposed to. They've never given me any reason to interact with them in any other way so I have no idea how helpful or friendly they might be, or how well they deal with mistakes. It's starting to worry me. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:42:39 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Odd Behavour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dennis Vest wrote: > OK, why is the DOS memory under Setup user > selectable if filer allocates all memory to DOS. I had forgotten about this. There are a number of ways to get to Dos and I think the memory setting in setup is what is used if you hit ctrl-123 or if you run it from an icon, but that if you run it from the filer it does give it all available memory. I don't actually remember that that is the correct combination but someone said it was and I do remember now that that setting doesn't apply to all situations. Another exception can be if you run something from an icon and specify the amount of memory to give it. Something else just occurred to me. If you're running the same Dos program on both computers, are both configured the same way? Is there a configuration file that lets you select options where you've specified different options for the two games? Do the games track scores? Could one have more scores to remember and need more memory? Do the games have a level like Sokoban? Could you be playing a larger level on one than on the other? Are you using the same version of the game on both computers? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:42:41 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I wonder why the LX serial port was not implemeted in a way that its mode of operation could be software controlled. I mean straight or x-cross (LapLink) mode. It would have been easy to add the minimalistic circuitry to control swap of each of the 3 pair of lines and augment serctl with cmdline switch /s and /x to activate normal or laplink mode. Then you could forget about carrying nullmodem adapter, gender changers and counting rs-232 pins, etc. It is really a big drawback now; not that I know of any device with SW-controlled pinout serial port, but just would be nice to have. Could it be implemented commercially by T2T? I assume port soldering must be cut and new wires, or flexible plastic foil PCB should be installed. Would it fit? Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:08:23 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? Comments: To: etomcat@2FKFT.COM In-Reply-To: <007d01c0c367$367837f0$162fa8c0@2fkft.com> from "Feher Tamas" at Apr 12, 2001 05:42:41 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I wonder why the LX serial port was not implemeted in a way that its > mode of operation could be software controlled. I mean straight or > x-cross (LapLink) mode. It would have been easy to add the > minimalistic circuitry to control swap of each of the 3 pair of lines > and augment serctl with cmdline switch /s and /x to activate normal or > laplink mode. Tamas: As a designer of embedded circuits, many of which use serial interfaces, we have done precisely this type of thing before. But usually the circuitry which permits such flexibility occupies significanly more room than the serial interface driver/receivers themselves. Usually you have to switch over the controls with relays, although there are other methods. One type of serial interface chip we've seen allows selection between DTE and DCE internally with control commands. Alas, me thinks we have to live with what the designers of the palmtop did. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:25:13 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 10 Apr 2001 to 11 Apr 2001 - Special iss Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12-04 16:34 DST, vous avez ecrit: > They also have 1700 mAh batteries now. BTW, I just seen that GP has released 1800 mAh NimH. :-) About $30 the set of 4, and less that $1 more expensive than the 1700 mAh GP set sold at the same store (Surcouf, Paris, France) . Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:55:46 +0100 Reply-To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: FLUFF: American's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From a different e-mail list with the majority being Americans. HP Staber/Salzburg "The Stuff Americans are Made Of" by Josh Hammond and James Morrison The authors spent about 4 years researching the core components of = American culture, these are: 1. An Insistence on Choice 2. The Pursuit of Impossible Dreams 3. Obsession with Big and More 4. Impatience with Time 5. Acceptance of Mistakes 6. The Urge to Improvise 7. Fixation on "Whatsnew" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:18:50 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fwd: RE: RS232 bluetooth dongle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Martin, On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 18:17:10 -0400, Martin Bergvill wrote: > When are they planning to release it? Should we go for the first batch > or wait for the second version which usually has less bugs? End of this year. I think it depends on if they will release the second version soon after the first or if it will take some more years ;-) I would ask them what the advantages of the second verion are and when it will be released. Then we can decide which one to try. > > And please allow me to forward your reply to the HP 200LX mailing list > > (about 700-1000 readers currently). > > Are we really that many on this list? Wow.. I don't know exactly, Al should know it. But I wanted the guys at Brainboxes to be impressed by that number. But IIRC the real number WAS in that range, at least one or two years ago. Probably we are a few less now. > Keep us posted about BT and the Hplx Of course! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:18:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: 700LX info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, could anyone please give me advice: has the Omnigo 700LX the same serial port as the 200LX? TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:41:59 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all! I started Memo, went to DOS and ran Solitaire. It all works, now. I can close and open Memo as desired. That must have been what I did differently long ago to make the two computers behave differently. I appreciate each and everyone's assistance. You are all most generous and knowledgeable. Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 23:46:11 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Odd Behavour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry, > > OK, why is the DOS memory under Setup user > > selectable if filer allocates all memory to DOS. > > I had forgotten about this. There are a number of ways to get > to Dos and I think the memory setting in setup is what is used > if you hit ctrl-123 or if you run it from an icon, but that if > you run it from the filer it does give it all available memory. > > I don't actually remember that that is the correct combination > but someone said it was and I do remember now that that setting > doesn't apply to all situations. Another exception can be if > you run something from an icon and specify the amount of memory > to give it. I think I will try to install it with an icon. Have not done something like this for a while. It would make it simpler. > Something else just occurred to me. If you're running the same > Dos program on both computers, are both configured the same way? > Is there a configuration file that lets you select options where > you've specified different options for the two games? No differences I am aware of. > Do the games track scores? Could one have more scores to > remember and need more memory? Yes, tracks scores. The dat file is very small. > Do the games have a level like Sokoban? Could you be playing a > larger level on one than on the other? No, just one level. > Are you using the same version of the game on both computers? Yes. > BTW, the note about DOS taking all available memory struck a cord. I loaded Memo, then started DOS from the blue keys. I closed Memo. I was able to reopen Memo without closing Solitaire. Thanks Dennis BTW, mysteries, both large and small, interest me entirely too much. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 02:56:48 -0400 Reply-To: Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe H. Smith wrote: > Lillebjorn Nilsen ably wrote: > > I want to retrieve my mail on two PC's: desktop and 200LX. The way I achieve this is by using @bigfoot.com address. Each incoming = e-mail gets sent to 2 pop mailboxes. I access one from the HP200LX and the other from my desktop PC. If anything goes wrong with Post/LX or Outlook, I = still have a backup on the other computer's POP box. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:36:53 +0100 Reply-To: Philip Pemberton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Philip Pemberton Subject: HP OmniGo 700LX latch - won't keep case closed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've just got my HP OmniGo 700LX off the power supply and, being the clumsy devil I am, I dropped it. Now I've got a problem. The clamshell design has saved everything - except the latch. Now the palmtop case won't stay shut. Anyone mind telling me how to get the latch out? How can I repair it? I pushed a piece of photographic film (developed) down the side and that restored the functionality of the latch, but I need a more permanent (i.e. invisible) fix. Thanks in advance. -- Phil. http://www.philpem.f9.co.uk/ philpem@bigfoot.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yves Leurquin ably wrote: > Joe H. Smith wrote: > > Lillebjorn Nilsen ably wrote: > > > I want to retrieve my mail on two PC's: desktop and 200LX. > > The way I achieve this is by using @bigfoot.com address. Each incoming e-mail > gets sent to 2 pop mailboxes. I access one from the HP200LX and the other > from my desktop PC. If anything goes wrong with Post/LX or Outlook, I still > have a backup on the other computer's POP box. I had a similar arracngement for the past 2 years as well in one particular type of critical mailing. The server forwards the email to an account I access with Post/LX and another account I access on the desktop, as a backup for Post/LX. During the past 2 years, my desktop crashed about once a week (it runs Windhose) and I lost 5 emails from the desktop using Eudora Mail. Post/LX crashed 4 times, user errors. Total loss 0 messagess. My attitude is now the opposite to what it was when I set up this method: I now rely on Post/LX to give me the authoritative version, not the desktop. This is my experience, others may have different experiences. A friend who travels even more than I do has his email going to the palmtop only. He then handles what is needed from the palmtop. What he must have back at the office for archiving and documentation purposes, he simply sends from the palmtop to an email address that is accessed by an office desktop automatically, but not from the Palmtop. When he returns, he compares what is in his "archdoc" (archiving and documentation) outbox folder, with what the desktop machine has. If anything is missing he sends it to the same email address again. When all checks out he burns a CD on the desktop of all this email, then deletes these items from Post/LX. In other words, he relies on Post/LX even more than I do for accuracy. He has never had any losses of email. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:26:23 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: HP OmniGo 700LX latch - won't keep case closed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Philip Pemberton ably wrote: > design has saved everything - except the latch. Now the palmtop case won't > stay shut. Anyone mind telling me how to get the latch out? How can I repair If you mean the latch on the front, then there is a simple repair I use on one of my palmtops: Take a short length of rubber bandand force it in behind the latch into the small cavity which usually contains the spring which holde the latch tab outward. I used 4 pieces of rubber band, 1.5cm. long, 1mm. thick and 2.5mm wide. I simply stuffed them one by one in there until the latch became effective again. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:53:13 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: 700LX info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 22:18:51 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, > > could anyone please give me advice: > has the Omnigo 700LX the same serial port as the 200LX? Yes Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:51:51 -0700 Reply-To: fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Frank McConnell Subject: Re: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables In-Reply-To: Russel Brooks's message of "Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:39:40 +0000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Russel Brooks wrote: > Hal Goldstein wrote: > > This is a reminder to all -- we are selling 5 1.5 meg SRAM > > rechargeables for $25. We don't have specs, and hopefully if 1 or > > 2 don't work, it is still a good deal for anyone interested. (So > > far all we've tried work). > > Hal, > IS it a good deal? 1.5MB would be handy as floppy-disk substitutes, for moving files between palmtops, and perhaps notebooks/desktops with PCMCIA slots. But what else recognizes the HP LX filesystem on an SRAM card? My experience playing with an Apple Newton 1MB card in a Windows Me notebook is that the SRAM card is recognized, but (unlike ATA flash cards) it doesn't get mounted as a Windows-accessible disk volume. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:15:47 -0400 Reply-To: Yuriy Kovalenko Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yuriy Kovalenko Subject: I WILLL BUY a FlashCard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I'm looking for a memory card 15-30 megs and I live in Canada. So, reply to me by email and make your offer. Thanks! -Yuriy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:11:06 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I haven't tried WinME yet, but under Win95, to use SRAM cards, you need to put two drivers in the Config.Sys file. IIRC, they are Carddrv.sys and CSMapper.sys. Just check in the Win95 help files for SRAM or PCMCIA and it will tell you what lines you need to add. I use both SRAM and Flash cards in my 95LX and on a Toshiba 486 laptop with one PCMCIA slot. The SRAM card gets added as D: and the Flash card as F: (drive E: is used by the Toshiba's drive compression software.) Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Frank McConnell Ýmailto:fmc@REANIMATORS.ORG¨ Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:52 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: 1.5 Meg SRAM rechargeables But what else recognizes the HP LX filesystem on an SRAM card? My experience playing with an Apple Newton 1MB card in a Windows Me notebook is that the SRAM card is recognized, but (unlike ATA flash cards) it doesn't get mounted as a Windows-accessible disk volume. -Frank McConnell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:29:06 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tames Feher wrote: > I wonder why the LX serial port was not implemeted in > a way that its mode of operation could be software > controlled. I mean straight or x-cross (LapLink) mode. > It would have been easy to add the minimalistic circuitry > to control swap of each of the 3 pair of lines and augment > serctl with cmdline switch /s and /x to activate normal or > laplink mode. I'm not a hardware guy at all so maybe I missed something but I don't think I've ever heard of a uart that would do this. The first computer I ever wrote a serial driver for didn't even have a uart and if I remember right you couldn't do it there, either. That was a Radio Shack Color computer with memory mapped I/O. The driver just had to be there in time to pick up each incomming bit. And there was no interrupt so it had to be timed very carefully. Data was read in from a specific location, masked and accumulated into a byte and then stored. Data bits were read out a different address. I think I remember that the input address was read-only and the output address was write only. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:53:49 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: >BTW, I just seen that GP has released 1800 mAh NimH. :-) > > About $30 the set of 4, and less that $1 more expensive > than the 1700 mAh GP set sold at the same store (Surcouf, > Paris, France) . I just looked again at Thomas Distributing and they have the GP 1700 mAh batteries for $16.90 a four pack. I guess those where the ones I saw yesterday. There's no mention of 1800 mAh yet. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:29:58 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Couple of random thoughts on the high capacity NiMH batteries... *Thought* One of the ways that they increase the capacity of the batteries is to make the walls thinner. There are some who say that the high capacity batteries have a higher chance of leaking because of this, you might want to consider this when picking batteries for your cherished HP palmtops. *Thought* For those in the US, Wal-Mart (at least my local one is) is carrying the 1600mAH Rayovac NiMH batteries for $11 for a set of 4. These aren't the highest capacity available of course, but they are on the high end, and really inexpensive. *Thought* I don't know if I trust manufacturers ratings. *Thought* Here is a really nice web site about NiMH batteries from one of the manufacturers. http://data.energizer.com/batteryinfo/application_manuals/nimh_application_manual.htm Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 12:34:00 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: fluffy Thanks to Al Kind! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wanted to post a public thanks to a really nice guy, Al Kind. After hearing about my recent problem with loose screws, Al sent me an envelope with a screw and a foot. You just don't find nice people willing to go out of their way for other people like that anywhere. Thanks to Al and all others who contribute to this list! Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:28:14 EDT Reply-To: Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: fluffy Thanks to Al Kind! Comments: To: bbiggers@charter.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/13/01 1:34:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bbiggers@CHARTER.NET writes: << Just wanted to post a public thanks to a really nice guy, Al Kind >> Amen. Good Guy , good list & good product. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:37:24 +0200 Reply-To: Giampi Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Giampi Subject: From csv to dbf... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ciao! I want convert a file.gdb to my DBIIIplus 1.1 First I used gdbdump, and I have a file.csv Then I open it with Excel or with Access, but if save it as a dbIII file, DB3 doesn't open it. How can I convert it? Thnks, Buona Pasqua... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 23:59:44 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tamas, On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:42:41 +0200, Feher Tamas wrote: > I wonder why the LX serial port was not implemeted in a way that its > mode of operation could be software controlled. I mean straight or > x-cross (LapLink) mode. It would have been easy to add the > minimalistic circuitry to control swap of each of the 3 pair of lines > and augment serctl with cmdline switch /s and /x to activate normal or > laplink mode. This is indeed a very interesting idea. I'm sure if HP had thought about this while developing the LX, it COULD have been done. For the switching itself only a GAL would be needed, I think, and these must be available in an SMD package. To control the GAL only one control line (high / low) would be needed, and IIRC the CPU of the LX still has one or two control lines left which are not used (Mack used one for the backlight to switch it on and off by software). So it would have been possible if it were designed from scratch, but it is not really possible now anymore, because the main board had to be redesigned, otherwise it wouldn't fit into the case of the LX. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:34:05 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Free PCXViewer program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alfred Lee ably wrote: > faxed document whose paragraph that is as wide as the page. Are faxes in PCX format? That is news. Both sources of faxes I get are erither proprietary format or TIFs. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:34:07 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: email -> sms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yves Leurquin ably wrote: > > Are there any free email -> sms services that you can share with us. > > Try www.winbox.com Almost nothing seems to work on that site and when it does, it glacially slow. It is also very confusing. Requires Java, too. Joe PS: I just saw the post of another member that this site is about to disappear... Oh well... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:41:14 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: From csv to dbf... In-Reply-To: <021a01c0c462$4f2c0d20$09137a3e@acer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Giampi wrote: > Ciao! > I want convert a file.gdb to my DBIIIplus 1.1 > First I used gdbdump, and I have a file.csv > Then I open it with Excel or with Access, but if save it as a dbIII file, > DB3 doesn't open it. > > How can I convert it? Hi Giampi, You might take a look at the field names and formats at the Excel stage of the process. Make sure any date fields are formatted cleanly in Excel, and try removing from the field names anything that is not an alphabet character. Sometimes symbols such as #, $, or ' in field names can cause import problems. Ted -- Theodore Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 01:03:19 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > The first computer I ever wrote a serial driver for didn't even > have a uart and if I remember right you couldn't do it there, > either. Add a few magnitudes of CPU cycles and a few million more transistors per square inch and you can easily add the proposed functionality. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:20:13 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: From csv to dbf... Comments: To: Giampi In-Reply-To: <021a01c0c462$4f2c0d20$09137a3e@acer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Isn't there an append program in dbIII? append...sdf. If you continue to have problems, I volunteer to try and convert the file for you. I'm a fair hand at Foxpro and haven't had any good projects in a long time. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Giampi Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:37 PM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: From csv to dbf... Ciao! I want convert a file.gdb to my DBIIIplus 1.1 First I used gdbdump, and I have a file.csv Then I open it with Excel or with Access, but if save it as a dbIII file, DB3 doesn't open it. How can I convert it? Thnks, Buona Pasqua... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 19:42:43 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? Comments: To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at In-Reply-To: <3AD785B7.D20D5967@zechine.wu-wien.ac.at> from "Gerhard Gonter" at Apr 14, 2001 01:03:19 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The first computer I ever wrote a serial driver for didn't even > > have a uart and if I remember right you couldn't do it there, > > either. > > Add a few magnitudes of CPU cycles and a few million more transistors > per square inch and you can easily add the proposed functionality. I replied to a similar comment offlist, let me send this to the list as well. I have to disagree about performing the switching in array logic. The problem is that the interface must switch directions *at the pin* of the serial connector. At this point, the logic levels are RS232, and cannot be switched in a GAL/PAL/FPGA/CPLD. One possible approach, requiring double the number of drivers/receivers, is to use tri-statable ones, and tie a transmitter/receiver pair to each pin. The other, more common approach, is to use a relay to perform the switching. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 03:27:48 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Free PCXViewer program In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Joe H. Smith wrote: > Are faxes in PCX format? That is news. Both sources of faxes I > get are erither proprietary format or TIFs. Well, the FAX program that came with my 14.4k modem many years ago used so-called "DCX" files. I believe the format was a PCX variant. I think tiff was another option too. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:46:02 -0700 Reply-To: Craig Armstrong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Craig Armstrong Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 Thank you for your replies. Has something like this happened to anyone before? Were you able to get back any data? I have tried a version of Norton Fix It. I don't remember where I got it. Seems like it came with some package, and everything was on one disk. I have all the files copied to one directory. There are 20 files including: install exe 03-17-92 2:00a nav ndd npack nrestore unerase unformat unerase doesn't see any files on c: Can I assume nu gives more control than than unerase? I'll see if I still have the old copy the full Norton Utils I used on a 286. Ted: About the filer unerase: I can't start the system manager--divide overflow error. I think that may be caused by one of my .env files, or alarm.q or something is corrupted. Can't remember which one right now, my list of corrupted files is at home. F. Kaufman: About the HP reinitializing itself: What do you mean? If you mean the RAM disk was initialized to some empty/default state, no, only the newer files are missing. The old ones are still there. I don't use Buddy (oh my!), I have a factory 2MB unit. I did do the disable filer trick in the faq. I use a 40MB flashram card which I use for my swap file with Software Carousel (from 1995), and 6 or 7 work areas. I was running a DOS application in work area 2 when the HP got wacked (system manager was running in work area 1). Also, the application was running from a JAM mounted drive, the .jam file is about 29MB. I have a small .jam file on c: which is still mountable (hasn't changed in a long time). Now I have to search the closets. Thanks for all your help, Craig ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 06:17:55 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: palmtopping the next generation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit in my series of intelligent brain implants, an intermediate step has been achieved. Human Interface Technology of the U of WA are making RSDs (retinal scanning displays) to draw an image directly on to the retina of the eye by a low-powered laser scanning back and forth. Because the laser moves so rapidly, the human visual system sees a complete and stable image. No fancy external unit is needed. It gives a 120 degrees view. They are working to insert the laser into eye-glasses. (and the voice-recognition palmtop on the shirt-collar) ...and, if you need a new cloned body _and_ want to keep your brain: A controversial operation to transplant the whole head of a monkey onto a different body has proved a partial success. Professor Robert White from Cleveland Ohio wants to do the same thing to humans. kind regards Nathalie Bugeaud MD ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:49:31 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Free PCXViewer program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laust Brock-Nannestad ably wrote: > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Joe H. Smith wrote: > > > Are faxes in PCX format? That is news. Both sources of faxes I > > get are erither proprietary format or TIFs. > > Well, the FAX program that came with my 14.4k modem many years ago used > so-called "DCX" files. I believe the format was a PCX variant. I think > tiff was another option too. Ok, sounds good. So does it mean that I can open the TIF files I get as faxes with this PCX viewer? I am not quite clear if you meant that or something else. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 00:51:58 -0700 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Free PCXViewer program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No, faxes are not PCX. I am only wanting to address the difficulty of viewing wide document (really image) on the LX. It get tire quickly to pan left to read the left half (just one line), pan right to read the right half (still the same line), pan left again to read the left half (now we're on the second line; that is if it is less than 1280 pixels wide; 1722 pixels are worse.) You get the idea. It's painful if you are at the bottom of the page and you're using LXPIC (not that I'm against LXPIC; I love it and it's a great piece of program) (even double speed didn't help much.) I'm making the assumption that you all LX users already know how to convert from fax to PCX. I considered putting in the parser but gave up the idea as I am not quite willing to burn time reinventing the wheel. By the way, faxes are transmitted in CCITT (ITU?) Group 2 and Group 3 format (or is it Group 3 and Group 4). TIFF when dealing with faxes actually just encapsulate the CCITT format. (At least that's what I'm lead to believe.) So, no sorry, PCXViewer won't read fax. I lied. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Joe H. Smith To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Friday, April 13, 2001 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Free PCXViewer program >Alfred Lee ably wrote: >> faxed document whose paragraph that is as wide as the page. > >Are faxes in PCX format? That is news. Both sources of faxes I >get are erither proprietary format or TIFs. > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:54:42 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FAX formats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 14 Apr 2001 08:35:54 -0500 (EST) HI: I had always assumed that the image format of a FAX had to do with the FAX client. Anthony Mai's QFAX use PCX format, B. J. Guillot 's BGFAX uses ZyXEL, EXP's MiniFAX seemeds to be TIF. BTW: VIEW.EXE(60kb) from B. J. Guillot 's BGFAX package reads ZFAX, QFX, TIFF, PCX, DCX and others...a very handy program for the LX (of course it doesn't replace LXPic) Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 22:52:04 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: Craig Armstrong writes: > > Ted: About the filer unerase: I can't start the system > manager--divide overflow error. I think that may be caused > by one of my .env files, or alarm.q or something is > corrupted. Can't remember which one right now, my list of corrupted files is at home. If Norton unerase doesn't see any files, I'm pretty sure Filer won't either. You may be able to get the Sys Manager started up by deleting alarm.q and your .env files--I think they're recreated when you start each application up again. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:14:06 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Rechargeables? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:55:44 -0400, Ken London wrote: > Anyone outisde of California, Florida or Texas have eperience with > their 200lx in winter? No matter what I have tried I've had bad luck > in winter with the 200lx which is why I've ended up with lithium > batteries. Yes. I live in upstate New York. It typically gets to -10F here at night in the winter and sometimes to -20F. My car is parked outside. I have never had trouble with my 200LX due to cold outside temperatures. The thermal mass of the LX plus the insulating properties of the thin leather case I carry it in are more than enough to keep it warm during the short time it spends in the cold. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:23:56 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Craig Armstrong wrote: > Has something like this happened to anyone before? Were you > able to get back any data? I've had to deal with a lot of corrupted disks over the years. My own and people at work who didn't back up and had crashes of various kinds. Using NU.exe and before that, Norton.exe, I've always been able to recover a significant amount of data. > I have all the files copied to one directory. There are 20 files including: If that's a directory on a card, fine. If you've copied it to your c: drive you've probably blown any chance of recovering your data. I hope it's on a card. > Can I assume nu gives more control than than unerase? I'll > see if I still have the old copy the full Norton Utils I > used on a 286. When a file is deleted the first letter of it's name in the directory is replaced with something else. ODh or 0FFh or some such. I don't remember the exact value. All unerase does is find names in the directory with the first letter changed and offer to let you supply a new first letter. This only works if the entire chain in the fat table is untouched. It doesn't normally help in a corrupted drive because the lost files haven't been properly marked as deleted. When a drive gets corrupted you have to locate their directory entries, get the starting cluster in the fat table and follow the chain of fat table entries to locate all the data in the file. If any entries are missing, and some usually are, you have to manually search the disk to try to figure out what data came next. With a text file this is sometimes not too difficult. With data files it can be very difficult. In any case it requires you to learn the organization of the disk, how the directory works and how the fat table works. It's like solving a very tricky puzzle. Norton Disk Doctor can do some of this for you but it'll miss a lot and make it impossible to manually find more. Someone who knows what they're doing and is good at puzzles and has lots of patience and lots of time can usually recover a lot more, starting with a disk that's been unmodified since the corruption. But there are no guarantees. Sometimes you can't recover much at all. We never fooled with it unless there was some truly valuable or critical data on the disk. This can take a week or two of constant work, and there's no guarantee. There are companies who will do this for you. They have a lot of expertise and they usually have a pretty high success rate. And they charge a LOT of money. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:23:43 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP OmniGo 700LX latch - won't keep case closed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Philip, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:26:23 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" wrote: > If you mean the latch on the front, then there is a simple > repair I use on one of my palmtops: Take a short length of > rubber bandand force it in behind the latch into the small > cavity which usually contains the spring which holde the latch > tab outward. I used 4 pieces of rubber band, 1.5cm. long, 1mm. > thick and 2.5mm wide. I simply stuffed them one by one in > there until the latch became effective again. Or use silicone. But take care that you don't stuff too much liquid silicone onto the gap between latch and screen case! Only a 2cm long "sausage"! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:21:02 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: HP OmniGo 700LX latch - won't keep case closed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich ably wrote: > Hi Philip, My name is Joseph H. Smith, not Philip > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:26:23 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" wrote: Ýsnip¨ > Or use silicone. But take care that you don't stuff too much liquid > silicone onto the gap between latch and screen case! Only a 2cm long > "sausage"! This is an excellent idea. The silicone probably has a longer life than rubber band. I recall now someone posted here or in HPHAND years ago about forming an eraser by cutting it into strips and pushing it into the cavity. Joe. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 22:22:59 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: 200LX serial port pinout - why not SW controlled? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK, let's discuss that further on the list. I have sent that email to Chris privately, and saw later that he sent his original posting to the list too, so here my reply goes public: ;-) Hi Chris, On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:41:22 -0500 (CDT), Chris Lott wrote: > I have to disagree about performing the switching in array logic. The > problem is that the interface must switch directions *at the pin* of > the serial connector. At this point, the logic levels are RS232, and > cannot be switched in a GAL/PAL/FPGA/CPLD. One possible approach, > requiring double the number of drivers/receivers, is to use tri-statable > ones, and tie a transmitter/receiver pair to each pin. The other, more > common approach, is to use a relay to perform the switching. I thought about using the array logic "as" a relay. I am pretty sure it could be done (although I have not so much experience with it - maybe I'm missing something). Imagine one signal line coming to the array logic, and the array logic does EITHIER and AND connection of the signal to one pin of the port OR to the other pin of the port, depending on the control line. And this could be done for all signals which had to be switched between two different port pins. For every pair of signals which had to be crossed over two such logic elements would be necessary. Do you know what I mean? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:04:07 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: email -> sms In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010412154450.028a3160@post1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all, For those who have a Hotmail account, you might want to check out http://mobile.msn.com It allows you to set up email alerts to your alphanumeric pager or digital cellular phone. Unfortunately, I had success in being notified only on my pager in Singapore, and not by sms message. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:33:07 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: From csv to dbf... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Giampi, On 13 Apr 2001, at 23:37, Giampi wrote: > Ciao! > I want convert a file.gdb to my DBIIIplus 1.1 > First I used gdbdump, and I have a file.csv > Then I open it with Excel or with Access, but if save it as a dbIII > file, DB3 doesn't open it. > > How can I convert it? > Dbase can convert csf into the database program. You have though to create a database first and then append the csv. there is also a very nice program around called convert. It can even create dbase databases. You find it here: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/2414/ The use is not very easy, but it does a lot. And it is small. And it runs on the HP. I use it regularly - in a batch file - ;-) Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:38:47 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Batteries In-Reply-To: <000701c0c431$eec4f260$aefd36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:53:49 -0500 Barry a =E9crit: > There's no mention of 1800 mAh yet. I think they arrived just a few days before, as I don't remember to have seen them the previous time I gone to the store (two or three weeks ago). Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:16:11 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Converting Rich Text I need to convert a rich text format file. It is in word 2000 rtf. I would like to be able to use it in word for dos or WP 5.1. The file is 10 megs in size. Word for dos converts it but it isn't readable when it is done. Does anyone know of a program that will convert it that hopefully runs on the 200LX? John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:45:58 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi John, On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:16:11 -0400, John Musielewicz wrote: > I need to convert a rich text format file. It is in word 2000 rtf. I > would like to be able to use it in word for dos or WP 5.1. The file > is 10 megs in size. Word for dos converts it but it isn't readable > when it is done. Does anyone know of a program that will convert it > that hopefully runs on the 200LX? I'm sure there aare converters RTF -> TXT, so you can simply extract all readable text and load it into a standard text editor. I'd visit simtel.net as a beginning. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 15:01:58 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: palmtopping the next generation ÝFluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > ...and, if you need a new cloned body _and_ want > to keep your brain: A controversial operation to > transplant the whole head of a monkey onto a > different body has proved a partial success. Professor > Robert White from Cleveland Ohio wants to do the > same thing to humans. This has some interesting possibilities. If we can all transplant our bodies and we can clone Robert Redford and Morgan Fairchild, we might end up with a world of people that all look like Robert Redford and Morgan Fairchild. There's a Magritte painting that this brings to mind. Even more fun is trying to predict who will become which Robert and who will become Morgan. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 16:21:53 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: palmtopping the next generation ÝFluff¨ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > ...and, if you need a new cloned body _and_ want > > to keep your brain: A controversial operation to > > transplant the whole head of a monkey onto a > > different body has proved a partial success. Professor > > Robert White from Cleveland Ohio wants to do the > > same thing to humans. Cloning is nothing new... we have been cloning politicians for years! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: In search of 4 letter ICAO Airport codes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been unsuccessful in my search for a worldwide listing of 4 letter ICAO airport codes. Any suggestions? It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select free form database format. TIA Cliff Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:12:34 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: (No Subject) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been unsuccessful in my search for a Bible topical concordance, texual notes, or cross reference in a text document or database. Any suggestions? It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select free form databse format. TIA Cliff Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:36:28 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: In search of 4 letter ICAO Airport codes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Cliff Crittenden wrote: > I have been unsuccessful in my search for a worldwide listing of 4 > letter ICAO airport codes. Any suggestions? > > It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select > free form database format. What about this: http://www.house747.freeserve.co.uk/aptcodes.htm First link Google suggests... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:32:24 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: d.hertrich@GMX.DE In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Hertrich" at Apr 15, 2001 08:45:58 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 13:16:11 -0400, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > I need to convert a rich text format file. It is in word 2000 rtf. I > > would like to be able to use it in word for dos or WP 5.1. The file > > is 10 megs in size. Word for dos converts it but it isn't readable > > when it is done. Does anyone know of a program that will convert it > > that hopefully runs on the 200LX? > > I'm sure there aare converters RTF -> TXT, so you can simply extract > all readable text and load it into a standard text editor. Also, you might want to look at the VIEW utility. It is a shareware utility by Malcom Drury on Ontario Canada. If you can't find it on the web, drop me an e-mail and I'll try to help find him. It reads /prints a number of different formats, including many MS Word documents, RTF, and a whole long list of different ones. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:51:10 -0700 Reply-To: Craig Armstrong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Craig Armstrong Subject: Re: Help: missing files on c: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 I was just looking at my 200lx, and what I said last time about the small .jam drive on c: was incorrect. It's been a month or two since I wacked the palmtop, so I forgot that I had been mounting a backed up version of the file from the flashcard. The one on the c: drive is not mountable, and when I copy it using laplink or intersvr the copied file is only 512 bytes even though a dir on c:\ shows the file at it's full size 714xxx bytes. Is it safe to remove the r and h attributes and copy it with dos copy command, or is there a DOS utility that will easily allow me to copy a hidden, system, read only file? The unerase program I used came on "Fix-It Disk #1" of _The Norton Desktop for Windows_ Version 2.0 (Windows 3.1). Since then, I found _The Norton Utilities Advanced Edition_ version 4.5. And I've begun to read the _Norton Trouble Shooter_ section entitled "Lifting Data off a Bad Disk". Hope it works. I also have the disks for PC Tools version 6, but I can't find the docs. Are they worth searching for? Craig ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:18:09 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: In search of 4 letter ICAO Airport codes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:08:49 -0400, Cliff Crittenden wrote: > I have been unsuccessful in my search for a worldwide listing of 4 letter ICAO airport codes. Any suggestions? > > It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select free form database format. > > TIA Check out the Supersite. I have a airport.gdb which I probably found there. Just do a search there Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 22:20:03 -0700 Reply-To: Steve Staloff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Staloff Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 4/15/01 9:00:26 PM, John Musielewicz wrote: > >I need to convert a rich text format file. It is in word 2000 rtf. I >would like to be able to use it in word for dos or WP 5.1. The file >is 10 megs in size. Word for dos converts it but it isn't readable >when it is done. Does anyone know of a program that will convert it >that hopefully runs on the 200LX? > A bit sad as rtf is supposed to be the universal intermediary. Are you sure the word2000 output dll is ok and that you have the correct rtftodoc.exe for your version of dos word, and that it isn't corrupted? An inquiring mind, fearful for his own future, Steve Staloff Portand, Oregon ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:52:03 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: cataloging cds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:48:21 +0100, Gerhard Gonter wrote: > I guess everybody here is using their HP-LX'es to catalog their > CDs, isn't it? > > In case someone is interested in such a catalog, I'm currently > playing with a Perl script that imports CDDB files into a GDB > file. CDDB files are used by some CD player programs that are > able to lookup CD data on the internet, e.g. xmcd. > > So, let me know if I should put that on the web somewhere. Please upload it. I am interested. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:12:25 +1000 Reply-To: Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: looking for a spare part (right hinge) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Werner, My LXs right hinge did a sort of self destruct a while ago. I noticed it making a very faint scratching noise when opening and closing for a few weeks, as if there was a grain of sand or dust inside. I tried blowing it out but it remained. Then one day it just went CRUNCH ! The LX couldn't be closed properly and the right hinge was skewed in an alarming way. I was a bit upset. My options were to send it to Thaddeus for a proper repair or try something myself. I didn't fancy being without the LX for weeks while it made its way to the states and back. I figured I could hardly make things any worse by having a go myself. I popped the hinge cover off. The right hinge was partly broken in a similar place as yours, and the black washer that lives inside the hinge was cracked, but still in place. The top and bottom parts of the hinge were attempting to seperate. After looking at the relevant websites on dissassembling LXs (thankyou for this !) I took to the right hinge with a small drill with a very small engraving bit and gently (nervous...of course not) removed the broken hinge bits that were stopping it closing. There is enough of the hinge left, about 2/3, for it to still function. The black washer stayed in place about a week, then disintegrated. I was concerned that the metal spring behind the washer would wear on the case without the washer in place, but so far ok. It gets checked every week or so. It looks as though it will survive without the washer. Even so I've now got a torx no.6 driver in case I need to take the LX apart and I'm after some of that Loctite plastic glue mentioned months ago just in case. Paul Johnson > hello, > > I am looking for a spare part for my 8MB 200LX. > I do not know exactly what it looks like, but the specialists who > have already studied the anatomy of the 200LX will probably know what > I am looking for. > My LX has a problem with the right hinge. It fell on the ground some > time ago, and inside the rigth hinge there must be a black plastic > part, and this was crushed. The edge of the right hinge has also a > small crack, but not on the upside like ususal but underneath this > removable cap. > I read on the list about the new covers for the LX from Hal, and I > thought maybe I can get such a small plastic part and could repair > the unit, which is in a execellent state otherwise. > > Maybe there is a dead LX lying somewhere and I can put my vivid one > on the transplantation list... > > best regards, > Werner (from Feldkirch, Austria) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:12:47 +1000 Reply-To: Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: Info requested regards Philadelphia connection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Russell, Isn't the CCmail thing through www.palmtop.com ? Paul Johnson > Hi all > > Does anyone here connect to Erols or another service in the Philadelphia > area? Prefer free if not Erols. > > I'm going to the states in May and want to arrange connectivity before I go. > > What is the HPLX specific service that allows CCMail connection? > > TIA > > Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:14:22 -0500 Reply-To: kabrosta@COLLINS.ROCKWELL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kim Brostad Subject: LXGPS and Earthmate MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know if LXGPS works with DeLorme's Earthmate? I think it is the replacement for Tripmate and operates at 9600 baud instead of 4800. I have tried it with a double speed 200lx and a single speed 200lx, straight through and with a null modem but come up empty every time. The Earthmate does work with my home PC though. Any ideas? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:59:42 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: FLUFF: Serial Interfacing can be dangerous (was Re: 200LX serial port pinout) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The following was posted on the Classic Computer list (classiccmp@classiccmp.org). Though it might be of interest. -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) Ýmailto:cisin@xenosoft.com¨ Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:05 PM To: classiccmp@classiccmp.org Subject: Serial Interfacing can be dangerous (was: 50 pin SCSI > Fred Cisin wrote: > > > BTW, there IS a documented fatality from the frustrations of serial > > > interfacing. > "Lanny Cox" wrote: > > I hope you're joking, but if not, how did this occur? Electrocution? High > > blood pressure due to frustration? On 14 Apr 2001, Frank McConnell wrote: > I'm envisioning the frustrated party applying the frustrating device > as a blunt instrument upon its designer, but somehow I expect the > truth is not so satisfying. About 20 years ago, a guy took his computer and new serial printer to a computer shop to have them "interfaced". After way too long with no success, he got so frustrated that he shot and killed the owner of the shop. I read about it in probably Infoworld at the time. When Joe Campbell was writing "The RS232 Solution" or "C Programmers guide to Serial Communication" (I forget which), I mentioned it to him and he tracked it down and put it into the book as a sidebar. I don't have either book handy today, but if somebody needs the reference tracked down, there is a full reference to the news story in one of those two books. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin@xenosoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:32:39 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: HP OmniGo 700LX latch - won't keep case closed. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Joe, On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:21:02 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" wrote: > Daniel Hertrich ably wrote: > > Hi Philip, > > My name is Joseph H. Smith, not Philip > > > On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:26:23 -0400, "Joe H. Smith" wrote: Sorry, I thought the initial question was posted by Philip. My reply was more relevant to the initial question than to your posting, so I intended to speak to him rather than to you. Don't be angry, Joe, I don't have anything against you or your name ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:32:42 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dissassembling 200 lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bulent, > Can someone tell me about the link(s) with pictures showing how to dissassemble 200lx or do-it yorself like sites about 200lx. I need it > because I am here alone, without any technical support from HP Turkey;and I own a 6 years old 200lx working properly but physically in > a bad situation. Thanks a lot... Bulent Have a look on my homepage http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair Maybe this will help a bit. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:32:43 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Palmtop serial connection to Linux host with WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, does anyone know where to begin to setup a serial ocnnection to a linux host with WWW/LX to share a DSL line (I want to be able to load me email into WWW/LX on the palmtop, which is connected using the serial cable to a linux box which is connected to the Internet via DSL)? Anyone using such a setup successfully with the palmtop? I already have IP masquerading set up on the Linux host and I'm already sharing the DSL line with machines connected via Ethernet to the Linux box. That works like a charm. But I don't want to connect the palmtop via Ethernet because I have all my email stored on the flash card, so I cannot swap cards when using Post/LX for email in order to insert an Ethernet card. And I don't want to use a modem line anymore in addition to the DSL line because I now have a flat rate for the DSL line. This should drop my telephone bill from about 120US$ now to a maximum of 60US$! I have tried a little bit around already. I found out that WWW/LX seems to support PPP or SLIP over the serial line, so I had to use something like SLiRP or PPPD on the Linux host. But I wasn't able to get a working connection with my first tries using SLiRP or PPPD. The Tips and Tricks page of DASoft mentions a "direct" script which shall work with such a setup. I don't have such a script in my www.cfg... Please help if you can! Thanks in advance daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:45:38 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Dissassembling 200 lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Have a look on my homepage > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair > Maybe this will help a bit. It appears that something is supposed to load but is not loading ....the page has numerous blank spots..... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:46:24 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: Serial Interfacing can be dangerous (was Re: 200LX serial port pinout) Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I read about it in probably Infoworld at the time. When Joe Campbell was >>writing "The RS232 Solution" or "C Programmers guide to Serial >>Communication" (I forget which), I mentioned it to him and he tracked it >>down and put it into the book as a sidebar. I don't have either book I have C Programmers guide and while that book has some interesting historical tidbits about how the serial port terminology evolved from the days of the telegraph it makes no mention of the shooting story so it must be in the rs232 solution book ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:58:08 -0500 Reply-To: Thomas Rundel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Thomas Rundel Subject: Re: Odd behavior...... Comments: To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dennis, if you run a DOS program from Filer, it grabs all available memory for itself, regardless of how much it really needs to run. Therefore, you won't have any memory left to run Memo or anything else. However, if you first launch Memo and leave that running, then switch to Filer and launch Solitaire, you should be able to swith between both apps on both machines, since in that case Solitaire gets less memory because Memo already has occupied its piece of memory. An alternative to that would be to add an entry for Solitaire in Application Manager and specify the amount of memory for it. In that case, Solitaire would not grab all memory and leave space for other apps. Tom www.rundel.net/palmtop On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:02:40 EDT, Dennis Vest wrote: > Barry, > I have tried to answer/clarify in the body of your text. I appreciate = all > help here. > > barry@FBTC.NET writes: > > > There is something different in your two configurations. You need = to > > find it. > > This is the frustrating part, I can't find it! I cut my teeth on DOS = years > ago, but I am telling my age now. > > > First I'd check in the system manager to be sure that you've > > allocated the same amount of memory for system memory and disk > > in both systems. > > 636 system memory on both > > > I'd also check that you allow the same amount of memory for dos = apps. > > Clipboard 4k > Static 10k > DOS 96k > on both > > > Then I'd look at how you run the solitaire program. Is there some > difference. > > Run from Filer on both computers. > > > I'd also try opening and closing Filer in the LX that does let > > you run the game without closing memo. If Filer has been open > > it won't release it's memory. It's possible that you've used > > Filer since your last reboot on one and not on the other. If > > that turns out to be the case you can reboot to solve it. > > There's also a program on Super called closefiler or clsfiler or > > some such that will help you. > > A minor point. I am running the DOS game from Filer and starting Memo = from > the blue key. I get a memory error box telling me I must close sol.exe = to > start Memo. I might have to resort to closefiler. I had hoped for a = simpler > fix. > > > If none of these answers it I'd check for differences, even > > small ones, elsewhere in your configuration. Look at config.sys > > and autoexec.bat and also at any batch files they call. > > The only Config.sys or Autoexec.bat are on the D: drive. No changes. = this is > why it is so frustrating to me. > > Thanks for the help. > Dennis ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:28:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Dissassembling 200 lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ken and others, On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:45:38 -0400, Ken London wrote: > > Have a look on my homepage > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/repair > > Maybe this will help a bit. > > It appears that something is supposed to load but is not loading > ....the page has numerous blank spots..... Ah, the web server problem again. Yes, there should be images, I think. I keep the images of my site on another web server than the HTML files, and that picture server is not very reliably. Try it again tomorrow, then the pictures whould reappear. Sorry! I'll change my ISP soon, so I'll have 100MB space for my home page within the next days. Then the images won't fail anymore! :-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:13:38 +0200 Reply-To: Sidney Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb DS 200lx I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit made a high pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a matter of a few minutes. So much for getting serious :-( Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to HP / Corvallis for exchange. Battery polarity was correct in all cases. Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? --- Sidney Ho ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:14:28 +0200 Reply-To: Sidney Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, John Musielewicz wrote: > > > I need to convert a rich text format file. It is in word 2000 rtf. I > > would like to be able to use it in word for dos or WP 5.1. The file > > is 10 megs in size. Word for dos converts it but it isn't readable > > when it is done. Does anyone know of a program that will convert it > > that hopefully runs on the 200LX? Some years ago this program was posted in the HPHAND forum of Compuserve. I have no idea of whether the program is still there or if Compuserve has reorganized the forum or if the author can still be contacted. It might be what you are looking for. These are some (Mac) extracted notes: ------------------ DOCRTF.EXE This program converts DOC-files from HP-Memo to the RTF-Format and vice versa. You can use most of the formatting features as Bold, Underlined, Fields, Page-Break and others. The program was build to look like SYSMGR-Compilant, but it's a normal EXE-File. I think, that the program explains itself. If you just enter an asterix (*) instead of a filename, DOCRTF calls the freeware program PICK.EXE from Harry Konstas to let you choose a file in a comfortable File Selection Box. One of the future plans are to rewrite the program with PAL 2.0 if it becomes available. (The File Selection Box will then be part of the program itself) You can use it directly from the DOS-Prompt on a desktop PC too, you just enter the following command at the DOS prompt to convert a DOC-File to a RTF-File: DOCRTF Ý/D¨ ÝFILE.DOC¨ ÝFILE.RTF¨ The FILE.DOC must exist and is the formatted MEMO-file. The FILE.RTF is the RTF-file created by the procedure, if the file already exists, it would be overwritten. To use it to convert from RTF to DOC use the following command line option DOCRTF Ý/R¨ ÝFILE.RTF¨ ÝFILE.DOC¨ It's very important, that the /D or /R parameter are written before the filenames. This program is CardWare (send me a picture postcard of your home town if you like this program, don't send me money). If you find a bug, please let me know about via e-mail. My e-mail adress is at the end of the documentation. My Addresse: (to register via picture postcard) Thomas Lienhard Alte Landstrasse 150 CH-8800 Thalwil Switzerland EMAIL: CompuServe : 100331,3015 Internet : 100331.3015@compuserve.com --- Sidney Ho ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:16:21 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: Steve Staloff Hello Steve > A bit sad as rtf is supposed to be the universal intermediary. Are you sure > the word2000 output dll is ok and that you have the correct rtftodoc.exe for > your version of dos word, and that it isn't corrupted? > > An inquiring mind, fearful for his own future, I am using word for dos that I downloaded from the MS site. As far as I know nothing is corrupted and it has the right converter. RTF doesn't seem to be as universal as MS claims. .John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:16:24 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: Sidney Ho Hello Sidney > ------------------ > DOCRTF.EXE > > This program converts DOC-files from HP-Memo to the RTF-Format Was one of the first programs I tried but it gave me an unreadable file. The file would be too big for Memo to open anyway. Thanks for the suggestion though. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:16:25 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: Chris Lott Hello Chris > Also, you might want to look at the VIEW utility. It is a shareware > utility by Malcom Drury on Ontario Canada. If you can't find it on > the web, drop me an e-mail and I'll try to help find him. > > It reads /prints a number of different formats, including many MS Word > documents, RTF, and a whole long list of different ones. Will View keep the document formatting and run on the 200LX? It may be just what I need. Thanks. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:16:25 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich Hi Daniel > > I'm sure there aare converters RTF -> TXT, so you can simply extract > all readable text and load it into a standard text editor. > > I'd visit simtel.net as a beginning. I need to convert it and keep the document formatting so I can print it from the 200LX. I'll check out simtel. Thanks. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:58:56 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Converting Rich Text Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net In-Reply-To: from "John Musielewicz" at Apr 16, 2001 09:16:25 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Also, you might want to look at the VIEW utility. It is a shareware > > utility by Malcom Drury on Ontario Canada. If you can't find it on > > the web, drop me an e-mail and I'll try to help find him. > > > > It reads /prints a number of different formats, including many MS Word > > documents, RTF, and a whole long list of different ones. > > Will View keep the document formatting and run on the 200LX? It may > be just what I need. Thanks. John: Well, within limits it will keep formatting. There are clearly limits to how good you can render a Word or RTF document on the DOS text-based screen. But I was pleasantly surprised when I recently tried to save a Word memo that one of my clients sent me onto my palmtop. I tried using Word to generate a text file, but the memo contained mostly of tables which the automatic text generator failed at miserably. But VIEW, to my surprise, rendered a very acceptable rendition of the memo. I just dug up a link to Malcom's website where one can get the latest copy of VIEW. http://mdrury.hypermart.net/ Good luck, -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:59:31 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Fluff: Intellectual Property Rights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re Abandonware and other Intellectual Property Rights discussions: I am not interested in igniting the war again, so this is the only message I'll on this. I thought the writer, Gregg Easterbrook (editor of New Republic and BeliefNet.com) wrote an interesting opinion. It revolves around drug and their invention, but he parlays his conclusions into a general discussion on Intellectual Property Rights, the topic we called here abandonware. The URL is: http://www.thestandard.com/article/0.1902.23059.00.html Enjoy. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:19:33 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: FLUFF: screen failure caused by "shutdown improperly" message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Fred Cisin (XenoSoft) Ýmailto:cisin@xenosoft.com¨ Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 8:05 PM To: classiccmp@classiccmp.org Subject: Serial Interfacing can be dangerous (was: 50 pin SCSI > Fred Cisin wrote: > > > BTW, there IS a documented fatality from the frustrations of serial > > > interfacing. My brother was having problems with a corrupted OS, his laptop kept crashing. Whenever he would re-start it he would get the "computer shutdown improperly" message. At some point this irritated him enough that he smacked the display and broke it. At least he didn't throw it in the river..... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:02:50 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: Intellectual Property Rights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Joe H. Smith" wrote: > The URL is: > http://www.thestandard.com/article/0.1902.23059.00.html yields: "The page you requested doesn't exist or is temporarily unavailable." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:10:59 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Fluff: Intellectual Property Rights Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3ADBCE7A.46F3A55C@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found it: the URL was http://www.thestandard.com/article/0,1902,23059,00.html HTH Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2001 17:03 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Fluff: Intellectual Property Rights "Joe H. Smith" wrote: > The URL is: > http://www.thestandard.com/article/0.1902.23059.00.html yields: "The page you requested doesn't exist or is temporarily unavailable." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 02:05:27 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Schudel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Schudel Subject: ADBDUMP Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just puled a copy of ADBIO from DASOFT.COM, but when I try to run ADBDUMP.EXE, it fails with the following messages: Memory allocation problems. Aborted! This happens both on the HP200LX, and on a Win98 machine. Any suggestions? /jack ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:00:59 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Call by Call Internet access in Italy? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, is there any call-by-call Internet access possible in Italy? I will be there next week and I'd rather pay local phone calls than international charges to my provider at home. Any hint appreciated. best regards, Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:02:54 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: ADBDUMP Question Comments: To: jgs2@NERSP.NERDC.UFL.EDU In-Reply-To: <001401c0c704$67043720$d302a8c0@libretto110ct> from "Jack Schudel" at Apr 17, 2001 02:05:27 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I just puled a copy of ADBIO from DASOFT.COM, > but when I try to run ADBDUMP.EXE, it fails with the following messages: > > Memory allocation problems. > Aborted! > > This happens both on the HP200LX, and on a Win98 machine. Jack: Just a couple of thoughts. You don't say whether you are running with an input file, or just running the program with no arguments. It the latter, maybe the executable is corrupted. But if this happens when you specifiy an appointment file, maybe the file is exceptionally large? There is one known limit which is mentioned in the documentation. If you have extremely long notes, the program will fail because there is a fixed line limit of 8K bytes per appointment. Back when I thought I had a problem (I was actually running gdbio instead of adbdump), I went into my appointment book and trimmed the accumulated appts. I archived all of 1999 into one file, then deleted them from my main appt file. Ditto for 2000. That left me with a reasonably small appt book file, but I still have older appointments available for reference if needed. Also, what free memory do you have when you are trying to run the program? Maybe that is what causes the message. Let me know what you discover, I'm curious. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:06:28 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx Comments: To: Sidney Ho In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There have been many people on the list that believe charging batteries in the 200lx is okay but I had the same thing happen to me. I was using a program to extend the charging times but the numbers were set conservatively (according to what I've read here). after a $125 repair from thaddeus, I've now found so many cheap sources for good alkalines that I don't bother with rechargables. It's worse for the environment but.... watcha gonna do? BTW: I was using the green NiMHs from times2tech. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Sidney Ho Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 4:14 PM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb DS 200lx I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit made a high pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a matter of a few minutes. So much for getting serious :-( Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to HP / Corvallis for exchange. Battery polarity was correct in all cases. Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? --- Sidney Ho ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:23:09 +0200 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: cataloging cds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi, On 16 Apr 2001, at 7:52, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > So, let me know if I should put that on the web somewhere. > > Please upload it. I am interested. > I am also interested. Also how it works would be interesting. The palmtop has no CD-drive to read the CD ID number.... regards, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:29:56 -1000 Reply-To: scott wormser Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: scott wormser Subject: Re: fs ibm pcmica 8.1 gig hd can get ibm travelstar for about $125 but have to order 10+ anybody want one or more? scotty2u@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:32:47 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: cataloging cds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:23:09 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > hi, > > On 16 Apr 2001, at 7:52, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > > > So, let me know if I should put that on the web somewhere. > > > > Please upload it. I am interested. > > > I am also interested. Also how it works would be interesting. > The palmtop has no CD-drive to read the CD ID number.... > > regards, > Werner I have no idea since I have not yet seen it. But I imagine you write the cd title in a field and it goes out in the database on the internet and find the tracknames. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:32:53 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: fs ibm pcmica 8.1 gig hd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:29:56 -1000, scott wormser wrote: > can get ibm travelstar for about $125 but have to order 10+ > anybody want one or more? Do you have any url's? These are cards that can not be used on the Hplx or what.. I guess not. BuT I still may be interested. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:33:00 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Got my Ethernetcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I just got my two Accton En2216-1 cards from gocomputer or something after I saw the link here on the list. His emailaddress is: fendy_z@yahoo.com No fuzz paid with Paypal got the cards in a few days. Just a happy customer. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:14:57 -0500 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Help!-Outlook2LX Conv... Comments: cc: curtc@airmail.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All/Curtis Downloaded Outlook <=> HPLX Converter, Version 2.20 and see that I can export Outlook Address book, phone numbers etc. to my LX (or the other way, or synchronize them) but the Calendar and To Do items seem only to be LX-to-Outlook w/ no synchronization and/or Outlook-to-LX export (which I need). Left my Palm Pilot at a clients today (was smart enough to keep my LX secured in my vehicle and safe from my hurried state!). Don't know for sure which of my last two stops it was and I won't know 'til tomorrow, if they'll be honest about it and say it's there.... So, I'm trying to dump all my Outlook data into my LX (been using the LX for spreadsheets and calculations and the Palm for simple math, phone numbers (FAX, etc.) and the day-to-day appt. EEK! Anyway, back to the LX conversion. The Calendar/Tasks section of the Outlook conversion program has the Outlook to LX and Synchronize portions grayed out (or greyed, dep. on where you're from). Does that mean these features aren't avail. yet? I've tried moving a palmtop file into an area where the program could see it like the phone file it saw (hoping for the items to "ungray" and let me select "overwrite," as I did w/ the phone file. I'm just going to rename that "work.pdb" or "outlook.pdb" and be go from there. I've got things in my phone.pdb file that I do not wish to sync. w/ outlook or the palm (should I ever find it/get another). Any help on dumping Outlook calendar and tasks into the LX is GREATLY appreciated!! TIA, --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:14:43 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: fs ibm pcmica 8.1 gig hd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:29:56 -1000, scott wormser wrote: > > > can get ibm travelstar for about $125 but have to order 10+ > > anybody want one or more? > > Do you have any url's? These are cards that can not be used on the Hplx > or what.. I guess not. > > BuT I still may be interested. > > Regards > www.compgeeks.com has these for $129 if you don't want to wait. They are all over e-bay also. These draw too much power to run on the HPLX, looks like over 500mA. They are powered through the PCMCIA port. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:59:28 +1200 Reply-To: Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is this just a problem for NiMH's because I've always used NiCds all along and never experienced anything close? -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ed Padin Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2001 03:06 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx There have been many people on the list that believe charging batteries in the 200lx is okay but I had the same thing happen to me. I was using a program to extend the charging times but the numbers were set conservatively (according to what I've read here). after a $125 repair from thaddeus, I've now found so many cheap sources for good alkalines that I don't bother with rechargables. It's worse for the environment but.... watcha gonna do? BTW: I was using the green NiMHs from times2tech. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:30:42 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Apr 2001 to 17 Apr 2001 (#2001-132) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: Re: fs ibm pcmica 8.1 gig hd > Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:32:53 -0400 > From: Martin Bergvill > >On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 13:29:56 -1000, scott wormser wrote: > >> can get ibm travelstar for about $125 but have to order 10+ >> anybody want one or more? > >Do you have any url's? These are cards that can not be used on the Hplx >or what.. I guess not. > >BuT I still may be interested. > >Regards > >Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway Martin The IBM URL is: http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/prod/external_drives.htm I am also interested, I want to use the drive with both my Thinkpad 560 and my Omnibook 425. I bet you could use it with the 200LX if you rigged an external power supply but I don't know what I'd do with 8Gb connected to the palmtop. I haven't filled up the 8Mb yet...... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:46:31 +0800 Reply-To: Jorgen Wallgren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jorgen Wallgren Subject: LXDICT on SUPER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, I just would like to inform you all that a new program is now available on SUPER- it's LXDICT by Ariel Brosh. This dictionary can use a wide range of different languages downloadable free from www.freedict.com. You can find languages which earlier was not available for 100/200LX. Enjoy! Jorgen ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:04:12 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: cataloging cds MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:23:09 +0200, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > I am also interested. Also how it works would be interesting. > The palmtop has no CD-drive to read the CD ID number.... Martin Bergvill wrote: > I have no idea since I have not yet seen it. But I imagine you write > the cd title in a field and it goes out in the database on the internet > and find the tracknames. Sorry, I didn't make myself clear enough. Here's how the process works: 1. CDs are catalogued with a cddb/freedb aware CD player program on a machine that has access to the internet and a CD drive. See http://www.freedb.org/ for details. You might also want to check http://www.cddb.com/, but that company changed their policy. 2. The cddb-aware CD player uses the CD's table of contents to calculate a cddb-id and consults with one or more cddbp-servers to retrieve information about CDs. Most CD players store the retrieved information locally in the same format as the cddb server does. Here's an example: http://whisky.wu-wien.ac.at/M/Jazz/Big%20Bands/ef0d1312 3. The script "cddb2gdb" uses the locally stored cddb database files and transfers data into a GDB template. The script needs the locally cached files in the same format as the example above. 4. The resulting GDB file can then be transfered to the HP-LX and used when you're shopping for new cds. The cddb2gdb script and instructions for the installation can be found here: http://afs.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/edvz/gonter/sw/cddb2gdb/ I hope this makes the process clearer and maybe it's of use for anybody. Please let me know if you need more information. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:12:51 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Filter for HP PIMs <--> Post/LX Comments: cc: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, (a CC: goes to Avi in case he wants to comment on this) has anyone written something like that already? If not: Who would be interested in such a software? My thoughts: It should be a software which takes the HP's phone book (a CSV file created with GDBIO from the phone.pdb) and converts the entries "name", "email address" (if you have such a field) and "mobile phone" to an ADR file which you can use as POST.ADR for Post/LX. The email addresses are written into the POST.ADR in the format name and the mobile phone numbers are written into the POST.ADR as number | name for use in the To: field for sending an SMS with Stefan's PDU. If nothing like this exists by now, I'll write such a filter, because I'd love to have such a thing. So it isn't necessary anymore to maintain two different email address books. I would make it fully customizable to your phone.pdb by giving it 3 arguments: The first argument is the column number of the CSV file which holds the name, the second is the column number which holds the email address and the third is the column number of the column which holds the mobile number. Entries which hold email AND phone number would create two single entries in the post.adr. Any more ideas? This all is only theoretical by now and it probably takes a few weeks for me to write that software, because I'm very busy these days. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:32:27 +0200 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: User's meeting: Belgium MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all those interested but not on our mailing list: Our next meeting will take place in Namur, monday april 23, 7.00 pm All interested parties welcome. More info from: stelem@attglobal.net Etienne Lemaire ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:46:15 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Filter for HP PIMs <--> Post/LX Comments: To: d.hertrich@GMX.DE In-Reply-To: from "Daniel Hertrich" at Apr 18, 2001 05:12:51 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > has anyone written something like that already? > If not: Who would be interested in such a software? > > My thoughts: > > It should be a software which takes the HP's phone book (a CSV file > created with GDBIO from the phone.pdb) and converts the entries > "name", "email address" (if you have such a field) and "mobile phone" > to an ADR file which you can use as > POST.ADR for Post/LX. > > The email addresses are written into the POST.ADR in the format > > name > > and the mobile phone numbers are written into the POST.ADR as > > number | name > > for use in the To: field for sending an SMS with Stefan's PDU. If nobody already has such a filter, I can probably whip one up. I already have the code that reads and parses the CSV output from GDBIO for the PHONE book. Printing out the .ADR file ought not be too bad. Let me finish my APPT debugging first. I'm tantalizingly close... And just so you guys don't think I've been slacking off, let me say that I've been spending about 2hrs each night for the past 2-3 weeks working on APPT (and PREF and ZONE, too). -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:22:20 -0500 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Help!-Outlook2LX Conv... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quick update: The Palm turned up (this is a personable list; so I didn't want to cause folks to have undue worry for me ). But, after using the HPLX<=>Outlook conversion, I plan to use my LX more. *Is* there a way to export Outlook Calendar and Todo events into the LX? (Unless I'm using the program wrong ... or have missed something, it looks like I can only send LX ToDo and Calendar items to Outlook). TIA, --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:59:30 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx Comments: To: Tony Kan In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure where the problem lies. I used my LX to charge the batteries for a few years with no problems. One day, it was shot. I do have to say that I was using software to alter the charging rate but I recall setting the values to something that (to my interpretation) was considered conservative by the list 'consesus'. Overall, I would say that it's a better idea to use a $15 battery charger than risk the death of an expensive machine. -----Original Message----- From: Tony Kan Ýmailto:tony.kan@clear.net.nz¨ Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:59 PM To: Ed Padin; HPLX Mailing List Subject: RE: Failed Overheating 200lx Is this just a problem for NiMH's because I've always used NiCds all along and never experienced anything close? -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ed Padin Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2001 03:06 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx There have been many people on the list that believe charging batteries in the 200lx is okay but I had the same thing happen to me. I was using a program to extend the charging times but the numbers were set conservatively (according to what I've read here). after a $125 repair from thaddeus, I've now found so many cheap sources for good alkalines that I don't bother with rechargables. It's worse for the environment but.... watcha gonna do? BTW: I was using the green NiMHs from times2tech. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:47:56 -0600 Reply-To: david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Accessing internet via Infrared port (Jornada) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Anyone know if it's possible to use the IR link of the Jornada (or perhaps other CE-based machine) to form TCP/IP link with another machine? Tnx, Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:04:16 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: IR/cell phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Question #1 - where is/was the link to the HP200 IRDA cellphone page, where problems of RF interference was discussed? Question #2 - I have observed this ocassionally. But I have also seen something that is puzzling to me. Every so often, when I try to dial out with WWW/LX on my cellphone and using IRDA, this happens. The program properly connects to the cellphone, and recognizes what brand/model it is. Then it reports, very quickly, that there is no answer or busy signal. By watching the phone, it doesn't even appear to be dialing out. When I make a successful connection, I can see the outgoing number appear on the screen of the cellphone. Any ideas? -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:18:00 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Filter for HP PIMs <--> Post/LX Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>It should be a software which takes the HP's phone book (a CSV file >>created with GDBIO from the phone.pdb) and converts the entries >>"name", "email address" (if you have such a field) and "mobile phone" >>to an ADR file which you can use as >>POST.ADR for Post/LX. couldnt you use a smartclip to do that? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:50:43 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb >DS 200lx I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit >made a high pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a >matter of a few minutes. So much for getting serious :-( >Battery polarity was correct in all cases. Is this a known >200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? my 2c: 1. check the adapter for output voltage and make sure it is "regulated" - unregulated, cheap 12V adapters usually put out 18V to the LX 2. use slow.com to charge the LX instead of the higher "fast" charge; it will take longer (12 hours min) but it will not get as hot nat doc fra ... and it's spring time again: __o regards from Nathalie in France with my LX _(\<._ in pocket cycling the beautiful countryside (_)/ (_) ready to put down my thoughts for Ho and fellow LXlers ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:52:10 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: palmtopping the next generation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Cloning is nothing new... we have been cloning politicians for years! Should i give you the benefit of the doubt and call it Easter slump? If all i get from posting my series of intelligent brain implants is clones of Robert Redford and Morgan Fairchild including the odd politician (and i received no private e-mail) it tells me that i was wasting my time. This is no FLUFF - Human Interface Technology and others are going to make lasers which transmit the whole of your computer monitor image directly to your optic nerve. No need to buy monitors any more, no need to buy television sets any more. No need for wearing reading glasses. No need to worry about weather backlit LX screens will be made. For me this is ranks in importance to the invention of TV, and is so far the greatest invention of this century. If all you can come up with is lame actors and politicians the list is losing its iq/potency and is not worth my while. Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:15:57 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: LXDICT on SUPER, does it spellcheck? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Subject: LXDICT on SUPER > Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:46:31 +0800 > From: Jorgen Wallgren >Hi All, >I just would like to inform you all that a new program is now available >on SUPER- it's LXDICT by Ariel Brosh. This dictionary can use a wide >range of different languages downloadable free from www.freedict.com. >You can find languages which earlier was not available for 100/200LX. >Enjoy! >Jorgen Jorgen Will this program spellcheck or is it just a stand-alone dictionary? Thanks -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:23:18 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: battery charging in the 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been using Olympus Camedia NiMh (shared with my camera) as well as Radio Shack NiMh batteries. I use the built in charging routine and plug each (primary and backup palmtop) in overnight once a week or so. I figure the possibility of damage to the internal charging circuitry is offset by the possibility of damaging the battery door by swapping the batteries. The power comes from my omnibook 425 charger, correct voltage, correct plug and correct logo. Mind you I'm not a power user, no microdrives or laser death ray modules.... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:53:25 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Filter for HP PIMs <--> Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:12:51 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, Hellu there.. > (a CC: goes to Avi in case he wants to comment on this) > > has anyone written something like that already? > If not: Who would be interested in such a software? ME ME ME :-) > Any more ideas? This all is only theoretical by now and it probably > takes a few weeks for me to write that software, because I'm very busy > these days. All what you suggested sounds just fine to me. I have had the need for this ever since I got the Nokia 7110. With this I do not need to maintain both post.adr and the phonebook. Since I use Post/Lx to grab emailadresses it has the most recent emailadress collection. So I once in a while insert the post.adr in the phonebook and do some cut and paste on the emailadresses. I do not think that this can be automated in any way. This sounds great Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:53:32 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Filter for HP PIMs <--> Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:46:15 -0500, Chris Lott wrote: Hi Chris > Let me finish my APPT debugging first. I'm tantalizingly close... > And just so you guys don't think I've been slacking off, let me > say that I've been spending about 2hrs each night for the past > 2-3 weeks working on APPT (and PREF and ZONE, too). I am not sure I have written to you in private about this: But I am really looking forward to this!! Thanks for your work on this.. Hmm soon my backup Rex will pop into my mailbox :-) Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:53:36 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Fwd:43000 bps with 6210 initstrings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Forewards this to the users of Nokia 6210 and Www/lx on the list. If you also have HSCD you can get 43.2kbps. I have not tried all these settings yet. (My 6210 is at service :-) But I use one of these and get over 30kbps Enjoy --- begin of forwarded message --- 9.6 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=0,0,1;+CHSN=1,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=71,0,1;+CHSN=1,0,0,0 14.4 KBit/s: Analog: +CBST=0,0,1;+CHSN=2,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=81,0,1;+CHSN=2,0,0,0 19.2 KBit/s: Analog: +CBST=0,0,1;+CHSN=3,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=81,0,1;+CHSN=3,0,0,0 28.8 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=0,0,1;+CHSN=4,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=81,0,1;+CHSN=4,0,0,0 43.2 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=0,0,1;+CHSN=6,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=81,0,1;+CHSN=6,0,0,0 --- end of forwarded message --- Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:54:04 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Goin'postal + Nokia 6210 - works MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:06:39 +0200, Jacques Belin wrote: > Le Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:54:34 -0500 > Martin Bergvill a icrit: > > > Dlr3p is for 6210 _and_ 7110. Dlr3 is for 7110 only ("old" cable.) > > Exact. > > But it would be intersting to test a DLR-3 on a 6210... All I know is that it does not work for _data_. Logos and all that works. > If the url we talk about are really DLR-3, which seems to be very > complete, perhaps we could get some good surprise... The Dlr3p works on the 7110 but the Dlr3 does not work on the 6210..probably just to get us to buy a new cable. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:14:06 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: IR/cell phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:04:16 -0500, Chris Lott wrote: > Question #1 - where is/was the link to the HP200 IRDA cellphone > page, where problems of RF interference was discussed? http://Www.daniel-hertrich.de/ > Question #2 - I have observed this ocassionally. But I have also > seen something that is puzzling to me. Every so often, when I try > to dial out with WWW/LX on my cellphone and using IRDA, this happens. > The program properly connects to the cellphone, and recognizes what > brand/model it is. Then it reports, very quickly, that there is no > answer or busy signal. By watching the phone, it doesn't even appear > to be dialing out. When I make a successful connection, I can see > the outgoing number appear on the screen of the cellphone. Any ideas? I have seen this (or similar) when the signal in the area is not there. I get a rapid "dudududu" in the speaker on the phone. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:20:50 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fwd: Palmtop serial connection to Linux host with WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I repost this, because nobody has answered, although I'm pretty sure here on the list should be at least one person who can give me advice. Please do so, if you can! It's realy important for me. Thanks! daniel --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:32:43 +0200 From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Palmtop serial connection to Linux host with WWW/LX To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Hi friends, does anyone know where to begin to setup a serial ocnnection to a linux host with WWW/LX to share a DSL line (I want to be able to load my email into WWW/LX on the palmtop, which is connected using the serial cable to a linux box which is connected to the Internet via DSL, i.e. there is a network device "ppp0" available in linux which leads to the internet and I want to be able to use this device over /dev/ttyS0)? Anyone using such a setup successfully with the palmtop / WWW/LX? I already have IP masquerading set up on the Linux host and I'm already sharing the DSL line with machines connected via Ethernet to the Linux box. That works like a charm. But I don't want to connect the palmtop via Ethernet because I have all my email stored on the flash card, so I cannot swap cards when using Post/LX for email in order to insert an Ethernet card. And I don't want to use a modem line anymore in addition to the DSL line because I now have a flat rate for the DSL line. This should drop my telephone bill from about 120US$ now to a maximum of 60US$! I have tried a little bit around already. I found out that WWW/LX seems to support PPP or SLIP over the serial line, so I had to use something like SLiRP or PPPD on the Linux host. But I wasn't able to get a working connection with my first tries using SLiRP or PPPD. The Tips and Tricks page of DASoft mentions a "direct" script which shall work with such a setup. I don't have such a script in my www.cfg... Please help if you can! Thanks in advance daniel --- end of forwarded message --- -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:45:09 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IR/cell phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:04:16 -0500, Chris Lott wrote: > Question #1 - where is/was the link to the HP200 IRDA cellphone > page, where problems of RF interference was discussed? http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/emi http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/mob_hplx > Question #2 - I have observed this ocassionally. But I have also > seen something that is puzzling to me. Every so often, when I try > to dial out with WWW/LX on my cellphone and using IRDA, this happens. > The program properly connects to the cellphone, and recognizes what > brand/model it is. Then it reports, very quickly, that there is no > answer or busy signal. By watching the phone, it doesn't even appear > to be dialing out. When I make a successful connection, I can see > the outgoing number appear on the screen of the cellphone. Any ideas? Which phone do you use? Maybe starting WWW/LX with the parameter -@16 gives any hints? Simply try a www.exe -@16 SETUP where SETUP is the name of your mobile phone setup in www.cfg. You can of course redirect the output into a file so you can access it later. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:45:11 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: To all list members using Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, since Al has changed the header information of all list messages, so that "reply"ing to a message sends the reply to the sender instead to the list (to avoid thos flame wars which came up in the past), I got several answers to list postings to my private email address instead that they went to the list. If you use Post/LX to read the list: Don't press F3 to reply to a list message, if you want to reply TO THE LIST, but press "T" for "to:". This fills the To: field of the new message with the list address instead of the private address of the original poster! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:19:33 +0200 Reply-To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: In search of 4 letter ICAO Airport codes Comments: To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sunday, 15.04.2001 at 22:08 GMT, Cliff Crittenden wrote: > I have been unsuccessful in my search for a worldwide listing of 4 letter ICAO > airport codes. Any suggestions? > > It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select free form > database format. > I have a HP 200 LX database (AIRPORT.GDB) that I created a couple years ago from information downloaded from a web site. It has 1826 airports in it, but alas it only lists the 3-letter airport codes. If you want the database nonetheless, just let me know. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:11:15 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: HSCD chez Bot ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je ne sais pas si les utilisateurs de Nokia 6210, ou autres portables supportant le HSCD on essay=E9 de voir si ce protocole =E9tait possible c= hez Bot (peut =EAtre en "Undocumented Feature" ), mais voici quelques exemples de cha=EEnes d'initialisation... Retransmis par : Jacques Belin ----------------------- Original Message ----------------------- From: Martin Bergvill To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:53:36 -0400 Subject: Fwd:43000 bps with 6210 initstrings ---- Hi Forewards this to the users of Nokia 6210 and Www/lx on the list. If you also have HSCD you can get 43.2kbps. I have not tried all these settings yet. (My 6210 is at service :-) But I use one of these and get over 30kbps Enjoy --- begin of forwarded message --- 9.6 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D1,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=3D71,0,1;+CHSN=3D1,0,0,0 14.4 KBit/s: Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D2,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=3D81,0,1;+CHSN=3D2,0,0,0 19.2 KBit/s: Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D3,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=3D81,0,1;+CHSN=3D3,0,0,0 28.8 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D4,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=3D81,0,1;+CHSN=3D4,0,0,0 43.2 KBit/s Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D6,0,0,0 V110: +CBST=3D81,0,1;+CHSN=3D6,0,0,0 --- end of forwarded message --- Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml --------------------- Original Message Ends -------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:16:47 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: HSCD chez Bot ? In-Reply-To: <20010419130347.4160.JBELIN@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:11:15 +0200 Jacques Belin a =E9crit: > Je ne sais pas si les utilisateurs de Nokia 6210, ou autres portables Ooops ! Wrong forwarding... Excuse me... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:27:06 +0200 Reply-To: Lillebjorn Nilsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lillebjorn Nilsen Subject: Cookies vs WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a free ISP where I can log in and check e-mail online on my Windows PC. When I tried to do the same with WWW/LX on my HP200LX I got a message like: "Can't log in. Need "cookies" for versefication. Turn on "cookies" in your browser and press "Reload"." 1. What does the "cookies" thing do in this case? 2. And is it possible to utilize "cookies" in WWW/LX + HV? Lillebjorn ----------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:31 +0200 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Outlook and appt.adb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In apd to outlook conversion I get a LOT of windows saying "delayed to date..." they just keep coming for every appointment that has a 5min delay. And finaly the program crashes with a run time error. Is this old news or am I doing something wrong? And one other thing. The Phonebook converts =C5=C4=D6 corectly but = calendar seames not to do that. I get " instead of =F6 etc. Any ideas? Thanks. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:47:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: palmtopping the next generation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Nathalie, On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:52:10 +0200, Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > importance to the invention of TV, and is so far the greatest invention of > this century. If all you can come up with is lame actors and politicians the > list is losing its iq/potency and is not worth my while. hard words! Okay, I'll proof that there is still some IQ on the list (but please don't judge about my potency here. I had to proof that on another way) ;-) Projecting an image directly to the retina is just the first step: When will we finally be able to transfer the bits stored on the LX's flash card directly into our brains? Then no screen, no keyboard and no programming languages would be needed anymore! But also verbal or written communication will be replaced by simple binary data flow. Everything is directly blown into our brains. So the whole knowledge of the world could be collected and blown into everybody's brain. I learned that the brain has a practical capacity limit of abt. 8 Terabytes, but that is only because of the slow "data flow" through our eyes, ears etc. multiplied by our lifetime. If that "human" data flow can be replaced by much faster direct data input into the brain via data networks, I'd love to know how big the real capacity of the brain is! (But I really don't want to get near my limit. Must be depressing!) But be honest - such discussions ARE off topic, so I'd suggest everyone who is interested in such utopian phantasies should visit a related newsgroup. Even your initial posting about direct image projection into the eye isn't really on-topic here, because no such device will be able to be connected to the LX. But it is interesting, of course. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:35:09 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 17 Apr 2001 to 18 Apr 2001 (#2001-133) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This is no FLUFF - Human Interface Technology and others are going to make > lasers which transmit the whole of your computer monitor image directly to > your optic nerve. No need to buy monitors any more, no need to buy > television sets any more. No need for wearing reading glasses. No need to > worry about weather backlit LX screens will be made. For me this is ranks in > importance to the invention of TV, and is so far the greatest invention of > this century. If all you can come up with is lame actors and politicians the > list is losing its iq/potency and is not worth my while. I don't remember seeing anything like this in your original post. Maybe before you decide we're all a bunch of dunderheads you should consider the possibility that you didn't get the idea across. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:05:25 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: LXDICT on SUPER In-Reply-To: <200104181046.f3IAkVG02276@smtp22.singnet.com.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Jorgen Wallgren wrote: > I just would like to inform you all that a new program is now available > on SUPER- it's LXDICT by Ariel Brosh. This dictionary can use a wide > range of different languages downloadable free from www.freedict.com. > You can find languages which earlier was not available for 100/200LX. There is a problem with the included wizard.exe program, and the English-Spanish dictionary from www.freedict.com. It seems to get most of the way through whatever it's doing, then gives a general protection fault. It worked fine with the English-French dictionary. If anyone successfully creates the Spanish dictionary I would be interested in getting a copy. Regards, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:37:31 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: SimpleTech 96MB CF card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I have the option to buy a simple tech 96MB CF card for a quite good price. I know SimpleTech cards consume more power than Sandisk cards. Currently I have a 64MB Sandisk card. Would you recommend me to upgrade or not? I expect that I can sell my 64MB card for the wame price for which I get the new one, so money is not an issue. It's only a calculation of advantages and disadvantages. Thanks daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:00:47 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: (No Subject) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just acquired a HP Omnibook 300. The hard drive does not work. I inserted a 64 Meg Smart Media card using an adapter and got the following error: "A PC card has been detected, but no driver is installed" I have been to the sandisk site and was unable to find the appropiate driver. Any other suggestions? TIA Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:54:15 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Cookies vs WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:27:06 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote: Lillebjxrn > I have a free ISP where I can log in and > check e-mail online on my Windows PC. Which Isp is this? I want to try it. > When I tried to do the same with WWW/LX > on my HP200LX I got a message like: > "Can't log in. Need "cookies" for > versefication. Is this in Post/Lx or when you try to access you web based mail? > Turn on "cookies" in your browser and > press "Reload"." That can not be done in HV. > 1. What does the "cookies" thing do in this > case? Cookies is a (correct me if I am wrong) "script" which is downloaded o you machine. Cookies can be used for verification purposes. You have the cookie then you are allowed to access this and that..something like that.. > 2. And is it possible to utilize > "cookies" in WWW/LX + HV? No. You use Www/lx and HV for this email? If that is the case you have a problem which probably will not be solved because HV does not support cookies. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:27:42 -0400 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Cookies vs WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cookies are data files placed on your computer by the remote server. Your browser needs to accept them, and send them to the server at proper times. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Cookies vs WWW/LX > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:27:06 +0200, Lillebjorn Nilsen wrote: > > Lillebjxrn > > > I have a free ISP where I can log in and > > check e-mail online on my Windows PC. > > Which Isp is this? I want to try it. > > > When I tried to do the same with WWW/LX > > on my HP200LX I got a message like: > > "Can't log in. Need "cookies" for > > versefication. > > Is this in Post/Lx or when you try to access you web based mail? > > > Turn on "cookies" in your browser and > > press "Reload"." > > That can not be done in HV. > > > 1. What does the "cookies" thing do in this > > case? > > Cookies is a (correct me if I am wrong) "script" which is downloaded o > you machine. Cookies can be used for verification purposes. You have > the cookie then you are allowed to access this and that..something like > that.. > > > 2. And is it possible to utilize > > "cookies" in WWW/LX + HV? > > No. You use Www/lx and HV for this email? If that is the case you have > a problem which probably will not be solved because HV does not support > cookies. > > Regards > > -- > ___ > Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:09:40 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HSCD chez Bot ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:16:47 +0200, Jacques Belin wrote: > Le Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:11:15 +0200 > Jacques Belin a icrit: > > > Je ne sais pas si les utilisateurs de Nokia 6210, ou autres portables > > Ooops ! > > Wrong forwarding... > > Excuse me... Thats alright.. :-) I forgot to say how to write the initstring in the Www.cfg: ÝISP_Telenor¨ Port=-1 Baud=38400 Modem=1 PPP=1 Login= Password= Modeminit=ATZ+cbst=81,0,1;+chsn=6,0,0,0 I will test a couple of the others. V110 will give you a faster authentication. But not sure that the Hplx will be any faster with higher speeds then the one I use. I have a DS machine. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:42:59 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:59:28 +1200, Tony Kan wrote: > > Is this just a problem for NiMH's because I've always used > NiCds all along and never experienced anything close? I have been charging NiMH's in my 100LX and now 200LX for many years. Never had a problem. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:57:10 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: SimpleTech 96MB CF card Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Amazon.com: SanDisk 96 MB CompactFlash Card Other products by SanDisk List Price: $120.00 Our Price: $102.44 You Save: $17.56 (15%) Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:46:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: SimpleTech 96MB CF card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Fred, On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:57:10 +0000, wrote: > Amazon.com: > > SanDisk 96 MB CompactFlash Card > Other products by SanDisk > > List Price: $120.00 > Our Price: $102.44 > You Save: $17.56 (15%) > Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. That's indeed a very good price! But unfortunately Amazon.com doesn't ship electronics to international addresses. I've had a look at Amazon.de, but they sell the 64MB card for 300 DM (150$) and the 96MB card isn't listed at all. Thanks anyway! daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:54:34 -0700 Reply-To: D&A Software Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Support Subject: Re: Cookies vs WWW/LX Comments: To: Lillebjorn Nilsen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Lillebjorn Nilsen, This was forwarded from HPLX List: > I have a free ISP where I can log in and > check e-mail online on my Windows PC. > > When I tried to do the same with WWW/LX > on my HP200LX I got a message like: > "Can't log in. Need "cookies" for > versefication. > Turn on "cookies" in your browser and > press "Reload"." Many sites REQUIRE cookies. See below. > 1. What does the "cookies" thing do in this > case? They are small pieces of information placed on your computer by the Webbrowser and read by the Webbrowser. The information generally tells the Websites about who you are, or perhaps what pages in the site you have already visited, and so on. Many other kinds of information, too. > 2. And is it possible to utilize > "cookies" in WWW/LX + HV? WWW/LX per se has no involvement, it is only the browser part, namely HV.EXE, in our case. HV can store one single cookie (may or may not be enough for your email application) and that cookie will be deleted at the end of the session. (Most cookies are retained for longer periods of time, but not in HV.) Hope this helps. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:46:29 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Fwd:43000 bps with 6210 initstrings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Martin Bergvill wrote: > 9.6 KBit/s > Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D1,0,0,0 > V110: +CBST=3D71,0,1;+CHSN=3D1,0,0,0 > > 14.4 KBit/s: > Analog: +CBST=3D0,0,1;+CHSN=3D2,0,0,0 > V110: +CBST=3D81,0,1;+CHSN=3D2,0,0,0 The Nokia 8210 also supports the CHSN command, but only up to 14400 KBits/s. The 8210 answers to AT+CHSN=3D? with +CHSN: (0-2),(0,1),(0),(0,4,8,12) (see the PDF:"AT Command Set for Nokia 8210" for explanations). To me, that means, the 8210 also supports High Speed Circuit Switched Data (HSCSD). However I cannot test it, because my provider only supports GPRS :-( Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:26:06 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: SimpleTech 96MB CF card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Would you recommend me to upgrade or not? I expect that I can sell my > 64MB card for the wame price for which I get the new one, so money is > not an issue. It's only a calculation of advantages and disadvantages. My Simple Tech 128 MB CF card did not cause any significant change in battery life time. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:36:34 +0000 Reply-To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: (No Subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cliff, The OB 300 will use a early Sundisk PCMCIA card that runs on 12 or 5 volts. Look for 10, 20 or 40 megs. I've heard that the 300 won't recognize more than 40 megs. I have wanted to test both a larger drive and a compact flash in a OB 300 but don't have one at the moment to test. Stick with Sandisk as they work right out of the box. =Bob= > I just acquired a HP Omnibook 300. > > The hard drive does not work. > > I inserted a 64 Meg Smart Media card using an adapter and got the following error: > > "A PC card has been detected, but no driver is installed" > > I have been to the sandisk site and was unable to find the appropiate driver. > > Any other suggestions? > > TIA > > Cliff Crittenden > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:04:59 +0200 Reply-To: Lillebjorn Nilsen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lillebjorn Nilsen Subject: Re: Cookies vs WWW/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > They are small pieces of information placed on your computer > by the Webbrowser and read by the Webbrowser. The information > generally tells the Websites about who you are, or perhaps > what pages in the site you have already visited, and so on. > Many other kinds of information, too. > > > 2. And is it possible to utilize > > "cookies" in WWW/LX + HV? > > WWW/LX per se has no involvement, it is only the browser part, > namely HV.EXE, in our case. HV can store one single cookie > (may or may not be enough for your email application) and that > cookie will be deleted at the end of the session. (Most > cookies are retained for longer periods of time, but not in > HV.) > > Hope this helps. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > http://www.dasoft.com > Informative. Thanks. And let me add: WWW/LX is a GREAT program. Like a Ferrari hidden in my innocent looking little grey HP200LX! :-) Lillebjorn Nilsen, Oslo Norway http://home.online.no/~bjni/lillebjorn.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:05:36 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: (FLUFF) OB300 drives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some of those hard drives, new, if they are the 40MB Western digital "caviar" ultralite drives. It is a long story... contact me off the list for more info. Bryan > > I just acquired a HP Omnibook 300. > > > > The hard drive does not work. > > > > I inserted a 64 Meg Smart Media card using an adapter and got the following error: > > > > "A PC card has been detected, but no driver is installed" > > > > I have been to the sandisk site and was unable to find the appropiate driver. > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > TIA > > > > Cliff Crittenden > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:30:15 +0000 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Travler's tip LX & OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 04/20/01 11:24 am Hello All (from Lexington KY): I have always known that the OB800 adapter (in this particular case F1044B) was the same voltage and pin configuration as the LX, but never put it to the test...well necessity it the mother of invention...I forgot to pack my LX adapter on this trip so time to tempt fate...works great of course! Hopefully the mall next to the hotel has a RatShack...methinks an "octopus" cable with one female and 2 male jacks would be really handy. Cheers...AJKind ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:53:11 -0400 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: M.U.P. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Not a totally unusual place but I am posting this email from a new UPS hub. I am installing scan tunnels. The 200LX is serving me well as a database to keep track of all the equipment we are installing and setting up. It is also able to program some of the equipment using datacomm and the serial cable. I posted this email using Post/LX and the Startac 7868 phone as my modem. The phone works great as a modem since it has to be carried anyway and it uses no power from the batteries of the LX. Have a great day. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:47:59 -0400 Reply-To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: SimpleTech 96MB CF card >I have the option to buy a simple tech 96MB CF card for a quite good >price. >I know SimpleTech cards consume more power than Sandisk cards. Message-Id: <20010420174816.FDYU4349.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.162.96¨> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:48:20 +0000 I think SimpleTech's controller was found to disable LX light sleep, and this accounted for faster performance on the LX and lowered battery life. During operations, the card didn't actually use more power than other cards (at least as I can recall). >Currently I have a 64MB Sandisk card. >Would you recommend me to upgrade or not? I expect that I can sell >my 64MB card for the wame price for which I get the new one, so >money is not an issue. It's only a calculation of advantages and >disadvantages. I'm with Bob Newins on this, and would stick to Sandisk. SimpleTech may work OK in general, but in swapped use on other machines (and I know you have Omnibooks too), it seems to have more than the usual number of glitches reported (on both LX and OB lists). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:23:21 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: To all list members using Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > since Al has changed the header information of all list messages, so > that "reply"ing to a message sends the reply to the sender instead to > the list (to avoid thos flame wars which came up in the past), I got > several answers to list postings to my private email address instead > that they went to the list. > > If you use Post/LX to read the list: Don't press F3 to reply to a list > message, if you want to reply TO THE LIST, but press "T" for "to:". > This fills the To: field of the new message with the list address > instead of the private address of the original poster! What I do is have the list address as the top address in my Post/LX address list. I Reply normally but then press Enter on the To: address which brings up the address list. Since the LX list address is on top I only have to press Enter again to add it to the Reply. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:55:12 +0200 Reply-To: Grzegorz Wroblewski Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Grzegorz Wroblewski Subject: CF drivers & mini Latex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, I am fresh owner of 200lx and after some "sculpturing" I come with some questions/news. Do all this CF cards need extra drivers to work with? I mean especially the bigger ones - 32, 64, ... MB? What's the impact of capacity of CF card on power sink? I found somewhere that a 32 MB card takes about 1 - 1.5 mA while reading and about 40 - 50 mA while writing. I would like to know how much power "eats" machine during normal operation? (I've got no manuals and I did not find it on the Internet.) I always wanted to have Latex and C compiler on a palmtop. Today I managed to put on my 4 MB + 2.5 MB PCMCIA LX quite operational Daniel's version of emTex and Borland C 2.0 with some extra tools and I still have got near 3 MB of free disk space. This took me a lot of work, but now I see no competitor to my LX on the market. Greg grzegorz.wroblewski@s-serv.pl ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:10:52 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Travler's tip LX & OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:30:15 +0000, Al Kind wrote: > I have always known that the OB800 adapter (in this particular case > F1044B) was the same voltage and pin configuration as the LX, but > never put it to the test...well necessity it the mother of > invention...I forgot to pack my LX adapter on this trip so time to I use the OB800 adapter all the time for my LX. Works great. The only drawback is the plug. IMO the plug of the OB adapter is not as easy to remove from the LX as the plug of the LX adapter. I don't know why. But I'm always careful when removing the plug, that I don't damage the LX's power jack. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:10:53 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fluff: poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, sorry for the bandwidth - but I hope this may enjoy some of you :-) I don't know by whom that was written. I hope it is not too old and you all don't know it already! If a packet hits a pocket on a socket on a port, And the bus is interrupted as a very last resort, And the address of the memory, Makes your floppy disk abort, Then the socket packet pocket has an error to report. If your cursor finds a menu item followed by a dash, And the double-clicking icon puts your window in the trash, And you data is corrupted, Because the index doesn't hash, Then your situation's hopeless, And your systems gonna crash! If the label on the cable on the table at your house, Says the network is connected to the button on your mouse, But your packets want to tunnel onto another protocol, Thats repeatedly rejected by the printer down the hall, And your screen is distorted by the side effects of gauss, So your icons in the window are as wavy as a souse, Then you may as well reboot and go out with a bang, Cause as sure as I'm a poet the suckers gonna hang! When the copy of your floppy's getting sloppy on the disc, And the microcode instructions cause unnecessary risk, Then you'll have to flash your memory, And you'll want to RAM your ROM, Quickly turn of the computer and be sure to tell your Mom! -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:30:29 -0600 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Bible Topical Concordance Comments: To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The old DOS Online Bible for DOS has many items that might be of interest. It performs complex concordance word searches. For example, I have on my LX Online Bible 6.22 HisWord 1.21 (Tom Hoover) KJV Text Strong's Reference Numbers Hebrew & Greek Lexicons Thompson Chain Topics New Topical Text Book Scofield's Notes Matthew Henry's Abbreviated Commentary John Welsey's Notes Misc Notes and Helps There are many more notes/commentaries available for the DOS version. I do not know if these files are available anymore for the DOS version. If not, I may be interested in trying to make the files available. Two sites to check... http://www.biblecd.com/ http://www.qsl.net/n5ntm/ Bob Cliff Crittenden wrote: > > I have been unsuccessful in my search for a Bible topical concordance, texual notes, or cross reference in a text document or database. Any suggestions? > > It can be in any format as I plan to convert it into an Info Select free form databse format. > > TIA > > Cliff > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:45:18 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: CF drivers & mini Latex Comments: To: Grzegorz Wroblewski In-Reply-To: <003f01c0c9cb$6e229c80$c800a8c0@mysza> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welcome to the club! I would suggest that you stick with the Sandisk cards. I believ the 220 and up need drivers but not any others. Getting them in CF size is good as you can swap between the LX and a camera. If you're interested in type-2 sized cards (not CF) I have 40 and 85 mb sandisk cards collecting dust right now. I also got a simpletech 48mb full size PCMCIA type 1 card. All cards are verified to work in my lx. If you're a Latex user then you would probably be interested in knowing that you can get a full minix distribution working on the LX. It's a fairly good unix clone with multi-tasking but it only supports 64kb sized executables and the LX is dedicated to running Minix only when it is running. it does come with a C compiler and man pages, tho, and it takes all of 40Mb for the full distribution. Have fun. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Grzegorz Wroblewski Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 2:55 PM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: CF drivers & mini Latex Hi Everybody, I am fresh owner of 200lx and after some "sculpturing" I come with some questions/news. Do all this CF cards need extra drivers to work with? I mean especially the bigger ones - 32, 64, ... MB? What's the impact of capacity of CF card on power sink? I found somewhere that a 32 MB card takes about 1 - 1.5 mA while reading and about 40 - 50 mA while writing. I would like to know how much power "eats" machine during normal operation? (I've got no manuals and I did not find it on the Internet.) I always wanted to have Latex and C compiler on a palmtop. Today I managed to put on my 4 MB + 2.5 MB PCMCIA LX quite operational Daniel's version of emTex and Borland C 2.0 with some extra tools and I still have got near 3 MB of free disk space. This took me a lot of work, but now I see no competitor to my LX on the market. Greg grzegorz.wroblewski@s-serv.pl ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:53:03 -0600 Reply-To: david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: (FLUFF) OB300 drives Comments: To: bbiggers@CHARTER.NET Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I found that only SANDISK CF seems to work in Omnibook 300-425; I tried my "lexar USB-enabled CF" and it failed with the same error message as below. Dave >From: Bryan Biggers >Reply-To: Bryan Biggers >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: (FLUFF) OB300 drives >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:05:36 -0500 > >I have some of those hard drives, new, if they are the 40MB >Western digital "caviar" ultralite drives. It is a long story... >contact me off the list for more info. Bryan > > > > > I just acquired a HP Omnibook 300. > > > > > > The hard drive does not work. > > > > > > I inserted a 64 Meg Smart Media card using an adapter and got the >following error: > > > > > > "A PC card has been detected, but no driver is installed" > > > > > > I have been to the sandisk site and was unable to find the appropiate >driver. > > > > > > Any other suggestions? > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Cliff Crittenden > > > > > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail >account at http://www.eudoramail.com > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:33:24 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: To all list members using Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:23:21 +0000 (GMT), Russel Brooks wrote: > What I do is have the list address as the top address in my > Post/LX address list. I Reply normally but then press Enter on > the To: address which brings up the address list. Since the LX > list address is on top I only have to press Enter again to add > it to the Reply. If I do what you do I add the hplx-l mailaddress to the private emailadress already in the To field. That means that if you do that on this message I will get a reply to martin@mobilpost.com which is forwarded to my cellphone as 9 sms messages and then also posted on the list which I reads on a secondary emailadress. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:03:42 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Makes your floppy disk abort, Floppy disk...weren't those the things we used before the CD? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 21:21:54 -0700 Reply-To: Jim Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Lee Subject: Re: Travler's tip LX & OB800 In-Reply-To: <200104210400.f3L40dA10748@carthage.proaxis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good tip! I've been doing this for years - also works for the Omnibook 5000's AC adapter, as well as the OB300. Speaking of the OB300 (I know this is a little off topic), it's NiMH battery pack suddenly stopped holding a charge. After being left charging for 12 hours, terminal voltage was 0.00V! I figured it was fried anyway, so I zapped it with 12VDC @ 10A intermittently for a few seconds. Whadda ya know, it came back to life! It's been working fine ever since! Encouraged by this success, I did the same thing to the NiCd pack in my HP97 desktop calculator (which has been dead for *years*), and it's now working again, too! Jim -----Original Message----- From: Al Kind Ýmailto:MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨ Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Travler's tip LX & OB800 04/20/01 11:24 am Hello All (from Lexington KY): I have always known that the OB800 adapter (in this particular case F1044B) was the same voltage and pin configuration as the LX, but never put it to the test...well necessity it the mother of invention...I forgot to pack my LX adapter on this trip so time to tempt fate...works great of course! Hopefully the mall next to the hotel has a RatShack...methinks an "octopus" cable with one female and 2 male jacks would be really handy. Cheers...AJKind ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:05:57 -0700 Reply-To: Bulent Bicioglu Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bulent Bicioglu Subject: What if ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA market, I have a question: What would be the `second` best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:32:10 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: Jaz Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I have a brand new 2gb Jaz disk on eBay, starting bid is $1, no reserve, free shipping. Click below if you're interested. Thanks! http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons &userid=tomsalwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:37:26 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: Jazz Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So sorry for the previous broken link, here it is again. I have a brand new 2gb Jaz disk on eBay, it's currently at $1, no reserve, free shipping. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:14:38 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: (FLUFF) OB300 drives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit david feldman wrote: > > I found that only SANDISK CF seems to work in Omnibook 300-425; > I tried my "lexar USB-enabled CF" and it failed with the same > error message as below. > > Dave > > >From: Bryan Biggers > >Reply-To: Bryan Biggers > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > >Subject: Re: (FLUFF) OB300 drives > >Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:05:36 -0500 > > > >I have some of those hard drives, new, if they are the 40MB > >Western digital "caviar" ultralite drives. It is a long story... > >contact me off the list for more info. Bryan > > > > If you are referring to these drives that I have, these are the original drive used in the OB300, and they do work. I have sold a couple to list members who may still be hanging around who could testify. As for flash cards, a lot of early machines looked for the manufactures name on the card and would only work with certain cards. The Ricoh G-1200S was that way also. Fortunately a lot of cards are OEM Sandisk. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:49:22 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Bluetooth Pico Plug MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There seems to be a second source for a Bluetooth serial plug: http://www.bluetoothupgrades.de The link has a photo of the "Pico Plug", which is a module with a parallel plug on one side and a serial plug on the other side. Price is $140. It is not mentioned, if it needs a driver and external power supply. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:01:20 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx > A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb DS 200lx > I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit made a high > pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a matter of a few > minutes. So much for getting serious :-( > > Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of > excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to > HP / Corvallis for exchange. > > Battery polarity was correct in all cases. > Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? What kind of AC adapter were you using? I experienced a problem with overheating when I charged batteries one time and discovered my adapter voltage had risen to 14 volts! When I changed it with another that was at 12 volts the problem went away. The specs for adapters in the manual are 9 to 14 volts but I thing anything over 12 volts is too high and will damage the machine. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:01:22 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx > A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb DS 200lx > I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit made a high > pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a matter of a few > minutes. So much for getting serious :-( > > Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of > excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to > HP / Corvallis for exchange. > > Battery polarity was correct in all cases. > Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? I had a problem like this but my LX didn't squeal. I left it plugged in to the adapter and on and when I came back it was very hot and had shut down. I unplugged it and when it cooled off it came back on and was ok- haven't had a problem with it since. I changed adapters though because the adapter I was using had risen to 14 volts. I had another problem with the same adapter with another 200LX where I was charging batteries and using a pc card modem. It got very hot again and shut down. I again found the adapter voltage had risen to 14 volts. So I threw the adapter away. Now I only use adapters that are regulated 12 volts and haven't had any more problems. I charge batteries in all my LX's at least once a week and have done it for years and haven't experienced any problems except for the above. I also frequently use a pc card modem while the lx is charging. I extend the charging times to properly charge my batteries and many times charge for 16 to 24 hours straight on a fast charge. I would suspect your adapter voltage is too high and the high voltage burned up your LX's charging circuit. With 12 volts or less the LX will not get excessively warm while charging even on the fast (100mA) charge and you won't experience any problems. The adapter I was having problems with was a Radio Shack 12 volt regulated linear adapter. The regulation wasn't worth beans though. I'd stay away from Radio Shack adapters they are junk. Now I use a Philong 12 volt one outlet switching adapter and the regulation is very good. It hasen't varied from 12 volts since I got it. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:09:31 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jazz Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Salwasser wrote:
So sorry for the previous broken link, here it is again.

I have a brand new 2gb Jaz disk on eBay, it's currently at $1, no reserve, free shipping.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser

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Anyone successfully gotten a jaz drive to work on the 200lx?
  ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:18:13 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? I've looked at every PDA out there. They all suck. I now have a 545 and a 680, none of which come within a million miles of the flexibility and reliability of the 200lx. I've also looked at every device out there...they all suck compared to the 200lx. If you have a 200lx you will be sorely disappointed in everything out there. My first choice would be an updated 200lx. Since that is not an option I would not have a second choice at this time. Nothing out there comes within a million miles of the 200lx, mainly because Wince is not ready for prime time yet, the palm platform sucks, and no other OS for the devices is ready to take it's place. With all of the new devices out today....the 200lx is still the champion. As I keep saying...newer is not always better. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:53:17 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: What if ... Jornada 720 running XT-CE and DR-DOS. Advantages: just switch over to the new machine and run the same dos programs you run on the LX with task switching. DIsadvantages: too big, battery life sucks, no numeric keypad. But everything else is too small and doesn't have a keyboard. > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:53:18 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Accessing internet via Infrared port (Jornada) One machine has to have TCP/IP server software on it. > Anyone know if it's possible to use the IR link of the Jornada > (or perhaps other CE-based machine) to form TCP/IP link with > another machine? > > Tnx, > > Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:03:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fluff: poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Ken, On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:03:42 -0400, Ken London wrote: > > Makes your floppy disk abort, > > Floppy disk...weren't those the things we used before the CD? No: Before CF. CDs are not usable within a 200LX (except maybe with a SCSI-PCMCIA card or via Laplink). I thought you knew that... ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:03:11 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: C-Programming help needed! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I'm currently writing a converter program to convert the palmtop's phone book 'email' and 'mobile phone' entries into post.adr format (used by Post/LX as address book). The program works already, but unfortunately, in DOS the system crashes after execution of pdb2adr.exe and in Linux, I get (also after successful execution) messages like 02047: binding file ./a.out tp /lib/libc.so.6: normal symbol 'fclose' ÝGLIBC_2.1¨ 02047: binding file /lib/libc.so.6 to /lib/libc.so.6: normal symbol '_IO_file_close_it' ÝGLIBC_2.1¨ and so on (about 17 lines of that kind). I see that at least the functions 'fclose', 'exit' and 'free' are involved into these problems. fclose doesn't seem to be executed anymore, but because it is at the end of the program, it doesn't have any effect to the correct output. It only crashes my palmtop :-( Could anyone please give me advice here? I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I have not so much experience in C programming, so it may be that I have made arrors with pointers, strings or so which have side effects. If the one who would like to help needs the source code it's no problem for me to give it away, since pdb2adr should be open source anyway. TNX daniel P.S.: I don't want you to finish my work, but I want to LEARN what I did wrong! -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:22:08 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi Ken, > > On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:03:42 -0400, Ken London wrote: > > > > Makes your floppy disk abort, > > > > Floppy disk...weren't those the things we used before the CD? > > No: Before CF. > CDs are not usable within a 200LX (except maybe with a SCSI-PCMCIA card > or via Laplink). I thought you knew that... ;-) > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml For that matter a floppy is not usable in the 200lx either unless you have a pcmcia floppy adapter. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:50:57 -0400 Reply-To: Jack Schudel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jack Schudel Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx Comments: To: John Musielewicz In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One thing that I have noticed is that my 14.4 XJACK modem gets quite warm when I am online. If I charge the batteries at the same time, things get too hot, the display contrast shifts, and sometimes the entire machine will just shut down. Now I just disable charging while online, and those problems have gone away. /jack On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, John Musielewicz wrote: > > A couple of months ago I was charging the NiMH batteries of a 32mb DS 200lx > > I was starting to get serious about configuring. The unit made a high > > pitched squealing sound, got quite warm and died in a matter of a few > > minutes. So much for getting serious :-( > > > > Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of > > excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to > > HP / Corvallis for exchange. > > > > Battery polarity was correct in all cases. > > Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? > > What kind of AC adapter were you using? I experienced a problem with > overheating when I charged batteries one time and discovered my > adapter voltage had risen to 14 volts! When I changed it with another > that was at 12 volts the problem went away. The specs for adapters in > the manual are 9 to 14 volts but I thing anything over 12 volts is > too high and will damage the machine. > > John > > > > > > > John Musielewicz > > Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:41:49 -0400 Reply-To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: CF drivers & mini Latex MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Do all this CF cards need extra drivers to work with? I mean especially > the bigger ones - 32, 64, ... MB? I have a 48 Meg CF and a 96 Meg CF both made by Sandisk. Neither requires= a special driver. > What's the impact of capacity of CF card on power sink? I use my cards mainly for storing reference data. Thus I read from them = often but rarely write to them. I have not noticed much difference in how = quickly my batteries drain down. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:31:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Kelley, Timothy P" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Kelley, Timothy P" Subject: Re: What if ... Comments: To: "bulentbicioglu@YAHOO.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I really like the ipaq, but only with a wireless lan card. I have been in meetings and searched the internet when people brought up topics, sent the links to others and instant messaged to others in thr room about the presentation. Regards, Timothy P. Kelley GIS eSolutions 713-432-2036 Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:22:04 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. Consumer Reports just reviewed PDAs. I can't find the magazine at the moment but I think a Palm rated 1st. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:23:36 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hobchi wrote: > wat if 200 of us put up $1000 to make an up > grade? > You meen one couldn't be made for $200,000? > as for the $1000 each, the LX cost $1000 brand > new wen it kame out. Could the 200lx be upgraded? Would HP allow it to be done? I know they allow what Thaddeus does but would they protest if a more substantial upgrade were possible? I want to stress I have no inside information but I still believe that HP bowed to pressure from Micro$oft to kill the 200lx to pave the way for wince. It is my belief that Micro$oft and HP felt that an upgraded 200lx would be too much of a threat to wince and wanted it dead. Where HP owns the patents on the 200lx would they have to approve any upgrades? Would any upgrades have to licensed by HP? It would seem to me that HP owns the rights to the design of the 200lx just as much as someone owns the rights to a given piece of software. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 02:08:00 +0000 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: What if ... Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Jornada 720 running pocket DOS. I just bought it so I'm not ready to say it's the perfect replacement for the LX, But MessySoft and HP fixed many of the problems that plagued the eariler machines. I run Quickbasic 45 in PocketDos, and it's faster than my DS 200LX. And it runs dos apps in color!!! I still have a lot of testing to do though. If anyone wants any continued feedback, let me know... Pocket DOS runs version 6.22 of Datalight DOS. http://www.pocketdos.com As for palms, which was the original question, I've tried several. My latest try was the Color Visor, which I've found to be a real strain on the eyes. I also have the FITALY keyboard, which seems to be better than graffiti. The stowaway keyboard adds too much baggage to the setup. Just an FYI, I also have a Psion 5MX, and while the software and the sync features are okay, the keyboard leaves a lot to be desired. In particular the "." key which should be under the l, was moved to the left, and is under the k. In it's place is the up arrow key. I constantly find my cursor one line too high. So to sumarize, for this vacation, I've packed just my Jornada 720 and my 200LX as a backup. So far I have not had to pull the 200 LX out of it's case. The 720 is pretty sweet, and fast too! Mike... P.S. I can actually touch type on the 720, accurately! >From: =09John Musielewicz >Date: =09Saturday, April 21, 2001 12:53 PM > >Jornada 720 running XT-CE and DR-DOS. Advantages: just switch over to >the new machine and run the same dos programs you run on the LX with >> For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA >> market, I have a question: What would be the `second` >> best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:23:02 -0500 Reply-To: Randall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Randall Subject: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? Tried replacing the mail batteries and will try the backup battery shortly. Have not been using an AC power supply, cuz I don't have one. Have had the PCMCIA card out though, 80mb Kingston. thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:10:56 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall wrote: > Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on > the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? > Tried replacing the mail batteries and will try the backup battery shortly. > Have not been using an AC power supply, cuz I don't have one. > Have had the PCMCIA card out though, 80mb Kingston. > > thanks > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Did you make sure the replacement batteries are good? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:18:41 -0500 Reply-To: Randall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Randall Subject: Re: dead LX Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3AE24BC0.BCD3B5D@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tried two sets of batteries. One new set of energizers and a set of rechargeable NiMH that are charged on a separate charger. Put in a new coin battery too. Tried Ctrl-Alt-Del and tried Ctrl-ON-"up gold arrow" to reset but nothing. Took the PCMCIA card out too. Can these be fixed and about how much does ir usually run ? thanks -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2001 10:11 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: dead LX Randall wrote: > Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on > the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? > Tried replacing the mail batteries and will try the backup battery shortly. > Have not been using an AC power supply, cuz I don't have one. > Have had the PCMCIA card out though, 80mb Kingston. > > thanks > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Did you make sure the replacement batteries are good? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:52:02 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall wrote: > Tried two sets of batteries. > One new set of energizers and a set of rechargeable NiMH that are charged on > a separate charger. > Put in a new coin battery too. Did you make sure the new batteries were good? I've had times where I purchased new batteries that turned out to be dead. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:54:24 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall wrote: > Can these be fixed and about how much does ir usually run ? http://www.thaddeus.com will fix them for a flat rate of $125.00, I recommend them highly. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Bill B." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bill B." Subject: CF to PCMCIA adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0CAAC.30C0C7E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0CAAC.30C0C7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see a lot of people are using the CF cards. I'm in Southern = California, where is a good place to get a CF to PCMCIA adapter and = about how much could I expect to pay? Thanks a bunch. Bill Buzan ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0CAAC.30C0C7E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0CAAC.30C0C7E0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:53:04 +0200 Reply-To: Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Case of data corruption on drive C: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Something strange happened today to my used 2MB stock 200LX, which I got about a month ago. It had a 8MB Nikon (OEM Sandisk) CF card plugged in and single-use Varta Alkalines, which were at 2.54V according to Stefan Peichl's Frames, CR coin at 2.9V. The backup remained intact on CF card, while on C: drive appt book and notetaker entries went corrupt, they wouldn't load. DOS chkdsk didn't help, reported corrupt directories, lost chains, etc. I immediately removed CF and run all tests with ESC-ON. Each one finished OK. (Machine is SG640....... series). Very embarrassing, especially that I cannot find any reason why it happened and how. What else, apart from radioactivity and particle beam can cause data corruption? It worked yesterday evening and not when I woke up this morning. Sheds a new light on the passage found in developer's docs, saying: "200LX does not have parity RAM, so we can find lotsa exciting new uses for the NMI". The weirdest thing is that I was busy on Friday writing a post to a local newsgroup, in response to a guy, who asked what cheap components to buy for homebuilding a PC, which could run complex math calculations continously for 6 weeks with 99.9999% reliability under Win9X. I politely explained him about IBM mainframes, Chipkill ECC memory, redundant powersupply, UPS, real OSes, like BSD Unix and OS/390, etc. Well, seems like I was preaching water and drinking wine, when it comes to reliability with my machine, the 200lx. What the hell did happen? I feel lucky that do to a minor LCD screen defect (some missing half columns), I do not use this palmtop as a single store of data. I also don't have too much event to keep in mind anyhow. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:10:39 -0500 Reply-To: Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: CF to PCMCIA adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > "Bill B." wrote: > > I see a lot of people are using the CF cards. I'm in Southern > California, where is a good place to get a CF to PCMCIA adapter > and about how much could I expect to pay? > Don't pay much, they are worth about $10 or less. The adapter is nothing but a physical mapping of the pins, there are no electronics in it. If you are in the USA, I know that Office Depot carries them for about $15 or less. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:03:33 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: What if ... > I have a Jornada 720 running pocket DOS. I just bought it so > I'm not ready to say it's the perfect replacement for the LX, > But MessySoft and HP fixed many of the problems that plagued > the eariler machines. > > I run Quickbasic 45 in PocketDos, and it's faster than my DS > 200LX. And it runs dos apps in color!!! I still have a lot of > testing to do though. If anyone wants any continued feedback, > let me know... Yes keep us updated. I've been looking at the 720 but have always been turned off by the size issue. It is too big to fit in my pocket. How well does xt-ce and pocket dos handle the serial and irda ports? Does Trans PC have a driver for WinCE for their pcmcia parrallel port card? Is there enough room on the internal 32 meg drive to store programs or is that all taken up by WinCE? I've heard you still have to do hard resets which wipe the internal drive- is that true? John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:03:34 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Case of data corruption on drive C: > Hello all, > > Something strange happened today to my used 2MB stock 200LX, > which I got about a month ago. It had a 8MB Nikon (OEM Sandisk) > CF card plugged in and single-use Varta Alkalines, which were at > 2.54V according to Stefan Peichl's Frames, CR coin at 2.9V. > > The backup remained intact on CF card, while on C: drive appt > book and notetaker entries went corrupt, they wouldn't load. DOS > chkdsk didn't help, reported corrupt directories, lost chains, etc. Have you rebooted the palmtop with your databases open? Sometimes that will corrupt them. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:03:38 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: dead LX > Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on > the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? Tried replacing the mail > batteries and will try the backup battery shortly. Have not been using an AC > power supply, cuz I don't have one. Have had the PCMCIA card out though, > 80mb Kingston. It does sound like dead batteries. Try replacing the batteries with a fresh known good set then doing a ctrl-left shift-on hard reset and see if that won't bring it back. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:06:04 -0400 Reply-To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Case of data corruption on drive C: >Something strange happened today to my used 2MB stock 200LX, >which I got about a month ago. It had a 8MB Nikon (OEM Sandisk) >CF card plugged in and single-use Varta Alkalines, which were at >2.54V according to Stefan Peichl's Frames, CR coin at 2.9V. >The backup remained intact on CF card, while on C: drive appt >book and notetaker entries went corrupt, they wouldn't load. DOS >chkdsk didn't help, reported corrupt directories, lost chains, etc. Message-Id: <20010422140620.DGGH4080.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.162.48¨> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:06:25 +0000 2.9v for the backup battery sounds low to me. I use a different battery monitor (batt100.com and ABC/LX) which tell me the CR2032 is 2.94v or 2.97v. Could be that the backup operation drained the mains low enough to trigger a need for the CR2032 to kick in, although 2.54v is a pretty healthy voltage (at least for NiMH, it's been ages since I've used alkalines). The system obviously had enough juice to processs your backup. Probably would be instructive to look over exactly how much disk activity was entailed to do the backup, and what transpired between its completion and the time when you discovered the problem. Any automatic Appt apps? - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:13:14 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: C-Programming help needed! Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > 02047: binding file ./a.out tp /lib/libc.so.6: normal symbol 'fclose' > ÝGLIBC_2.1¨ > 02047: binding file /lib/libc.so.6 to /lib/libc.so.6: normal symbol > '_IO_file_close_it' ÝGLIBC_2.1¨ > > and so on (about 17 lines of that kind). > I see that at least the functions 'fclose', 'exit' and > 'free' are involved into these problems. This looks like a libc problem, that is, your gcc does not find the appropriate version of it during linking. > If the one who would like to help needs the source code it's no problem > for me to give it away, since pdb2adr should be open source anyway. I'd like to take a look at the source, if you want to forward it to me. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:18:42 +0200 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Randall wrote: > Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on > the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? My second unit's intermal memory board got loose which cause a massive power drain, main and backup batteries were dead within one week. It also sometimes didn't turn on or it crashed. Opening and fixing the memory board seems to have solved the problem. Maybe that's the case with your unit too. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:28:12 -0500 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: What is 123's "@Count" equiv. in Excel? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, This is LX related ;-) I worked out a spreadsheet on my Palmtop that uses the "@Count" feature to count the number of x's I put in a column. When I port it over to Excel (on my desktop) for printing, this function doesn't translate. Is there any equivalent function in Excel? I guess I could label the columns and use 1's and 0's, to show sort of a "yes/no" thing and "count" by adding the ones, but that wouldn't look quite like I want it to..... TIA for any help. --tim PS. Trying to use the spreadsheet to track sales calls and "X" columns like "In Person," "Phone," etc. and now type of advertising bought (if any). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 07:36:05 -0700 Reply-To: LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Case of data corruption on drive C: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > The backup remained intact on CF card, while on C: drive appt > > book and notetaker entries went corrupt, they wouldn't load. DOS > > chkdsk didn't help, reported corrupt directories, lost chains, etc. > > Have you rebooted the palmtop with your databases open? Sometimes > that will corrupt them. More likely that the corrupted file system (directories, chains, etc) is the cause of the bad databases. While reboots with open databases have a chance of corrupting a database, I don't believe it has any effect at the file system level, ie, it just affects the internal pointers and data areas for a given database. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:22:26 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those out there with the knowledge and bucks to test the various systems/platforms, please continue your effort. The HPLX has been a great machine for me, but I worry about lack of support by HP. My main reason for not converting has to do with my extensive notetaker files and calc files. I also have a few dos apps I installed that are of great value to me. But, I will consider what others say about new systems and check them out. Thanks to all for their input. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:43:03 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. I'm not a heavy user but I'm a long time PDA user and before I retired I guess I was a moderate user. I think it depends on what you want it to do. If you want to put emphasis on listening to music or audiobooks on mp3 or if you want to do multimedia stuff on it, one of the PocketPC systems would probably be best. Compaq has just announced a new 64 meg Ipaq. I think I'd want to look at that. I'm not particularly trusting of Compaq but I keep hearing good things about the Ipaq. I think I'd also look into the Casseopea 115 and the current HP. If you want PIM stuff, simplicity and lots of available software I'd look at the Palm. I don't think I'd look at their cheap ones. They aren't upgradable. I personally like the color Palm (3c). I have one as well as the mono one. (3x) The color doesn't matter that much although it is nice, but the backlight is great. It's battery life is much shorter but it's never a problem for me. If you want to use it out-of-doors, the mono one is much better. The color one, like any TFT screen, isn't usable outside in the sun. The pim stuff it comes with is good and simple and easy to learn. It's very intuitive. It doesn't have much power. But a lot of high quality apps are available to make up for that. Data entry is clumsy compared to the 200lx but Graffiti, used on the Palm, is easy to learn. It takes about 20 minutes to get pretty functional with it and a week or two to get really comfortable with it. I've read that Jot, the PocketPC handwriting recognition system is less intuitive but just as good once you've learned it. They both have their proponents. You can enter data on the PC if you have a lot of data entry to do. It synchs nicely so you just put the palm in the cradle and push a button on the cradle and it's in the Palm and there's a backup copy on the PC. You can also buy portable keyboards. For software other than the built in software, a lot of it comes with a PC program that lets you do the same thing and is controlled by the Palm synching process so there's nothing special to do to get it on the Palm. More and more software comes this way. I don't know the PocketPC platform that well but I suspect their software does the same thing. But there isn't anywhere near as much of it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:54:09 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: What is 123's "@Count" equiv. in Excel? Comments: To: palmtop@n-link.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From the Excel help file: COUNTA Counts the number of cells that are not empty and the values within the list of arguments. Use COUNTA to count the number of cells that contain data in a range or array. Syntax COUNTA(value1,value2, ...) Value1, value2, ... are 1 to 30 arguments representing the values you want to count. In this case, a value is any type of information, including empty text ("") but not including empty cells. If an argument is an array or reference, empty cells within the array or reference are ignored. If you do not need to count logical values, text, or error values, use the COUNT function. Examples In the following example, COUNTA(A1:A7) equals 6 COUNTA(A4:A7) equals 4 COUNTA(A1:A7, 2) equals 7 COUNTA(A1:A7, "Two") equals 7 ==========================end section======================================= There are also "count", "Dcount", "Dcounta", "Countif", "Countblank", Patrick West pgp fingerprint > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Tim > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 8:28 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: What is 123's "@Count" equiv. in Excel? > > > Hi all, > > This is LX related ;-) > > I worked out a spreadsheet on my Palmtop that uses the "@Count" feature to > count the number of x's I put in a column. When I port it over to > Excel (on > my desktop) for printing, this function doesn't translate. > > Is there any equivalent function in Excel? > > I guess I could label the columns and use 1's and 0's, to show sort of a > "yes/no" thing and "count" by adding the ones, but that wouldn't > look quite > like I want it to..... > > TIA for any help. > > --tim > > PS. Trying to use the spreadsheet to track sales calls and "X" > columns like > "In Person," > "Phone," etc. and now type of advertising bought (if any). > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > --- > Virus checked. Shows clean. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 > --- My Outgoing mail has been virus checked and appears clean. However you should always be running your own anti virus program. I am using both Norton and AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:54:13 +0200 Reply-To: Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Receive Your email as an SMS - here. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At http://room33.com You can get Your email as an SMS to Your phone. If You send an email to "login name"@room33.com the messages goes to Your mobile. It also has the option to reroute Your ordinary mail to Your mobilpehone. Please refer to me when You apply. It gives me 10points - thanks. tomasm@room33.com /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:09:52 -0500 Reply-To: Randall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Randall Subject: Re: dead LX Comments: To: a123456@bitstream.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's up It's up It's up The little bugger fired up after doing the ctrl-left shift-on hard reset that John suggested below. Actually others suggested it too but I think I was using the right shift. Gotta use the Left shift I guess. Seems the batteries got to low and the backup battery was week too even though the battery meter said the backup was OK. Anyway replaced em both. I do have it backed up on both the PCMCIA card and on a laptop. Much thanks to all those that e-mailed me with suggestions. :-) Man I love this thing................ Was going to buy another if I had to..... Thanks again -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of John Musielewicz Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 9:04 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: dead LX > Anybody have any ideas why a 200LX that worked one minute would not turn on > the next time, a few hours later, it was tried ? Tried replacing the mail > batteries and will try the backup battery shortly. Have not been using an AC > power supply, cuz I don't have one. Have had the PCMCIA card out though, > 80mb Kingston. It does sound like dead batteries. Try replacing the batteries with a fresh known good set then doing a ctrl-left shift-on hard reset and see if that won't bring it back. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:24:02 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Compaq has just announced a new > 64 meg Ipaq. I think I'd want to look at that. I'm not > particularly trusting of Compaq but I keep hearing good things > about the Ipaq. The compaq units have an excellent display but are plagued by a persistent dust problem. > You can also buy portable keyboards. The portable keyboards are great. Have targus folding keyboard for the 545 it works great. The bottom line is you have to take a big step down in your expectations when go from the 200lx to anything else. If the 200lx is a Cadillac the Jornada and the palm are Tricycles. If the 200lx is a 747 the Jornada and the Palm are planes from the era of the Wright Brothers. As I keep saying newer is not always better. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:29:53 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dansedelux wrote: > Those out there with the knowledge and bucks to test the various > systems/platforms, please continue your effort. The HPLX has been a great > machine for me, but I worry about lack of support by HP. My main reason for > not converting has to do with my extensive notetaker files and calc files. > I also have a few dos apps I installed that are of great value to me. > But, I will consider what others say about new systems and check them out. > Thanks to all for their input. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml A couple of points....there are DOS emulators available. As far as support for the 200lx, your best bet is http://www.thaddeus.com. You can't go wrong with them, for $125 flat rate they will fix your 200lx. Great people, I would hightly recommend them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:04:57 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Case of data corruption on drive C: Comments: To: Tamas Feher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I immediately removed CF and run all tests with ESC-ON. Each > one finished OK. (Machine is SG640....... series). By the way do NOT, CAUTION, DO NOT, use the ESC-ON test to test any flashcard cards. It was solely designed for SRAM cards and can corrupt flashcards so that you need Fdisk and Format to make them useable again. All data could be lost. Sub-warning - it does not affect all flashcards with corruption but most will be corrupted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:05:04 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: dead LX Comments: To: Randall MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Tried Ctrl-Alt-Del and tried Ctrl-ON-"up gold arrow" to reset but nothing. > Took the PCMCIA card out too. As John said - the Hard Reset and make sure to use LEFT SHIFT. It is Ctrl-LEFT Shift-ON, all at the same time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:52:23 -0700 Reply-To: ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this list is as great as America) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up > 49% of the population so they now are a minority!!!! On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). The 2000 Census results are finally out, and not surprisingly, they show that Ken is about as wrong as a person can be. Whites in the United States make up 75.1% of the population. See: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:04:23 +0100 Reply-To: Stuart Gray Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stuart Gray Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Apr 2001 to 21 Apr 2001 (#2001-136) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:05:57 -0700 > From: Bulent Bicioglu > Subject: What if ... > > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. > > __________________________________________________ Psion 3mx - many thousands of 3rd party apps, built-in programming language, fast, backlight, keyboard comparable to HPLx (although w/out numeric keypad), rarely needs resetting, synchronises with Windows/Outlook. Available second-hand only for about 150 ukp (if available). Third choice (or second choice of available units) Psion 5mx/Ericsson MC218. See Owen's discussions on this from the past six months. Stuart ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:14:03 +0200 Reply-To: Sidney Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx In-Reply-To: <200104220401.AAA18526@spdmgaab.compuserve.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 4/22/01 John Musielewicz replied: >> Some years back I had two failed (1mb & 2mb units with same symptoms of >> excessive charging heat and failure to charge batteries) which went back to >> HP / Corvallis for exchange. >> >> Battery polarity was correct in all cases. >> Is this a known 200lx problem? Anyone know what causes the problem? > > I had a problem like this but my LX didn't squeal. I left it plugged > in to the adapter and on and when I came back it was very hot and had > shut down. I unplugged it and when it cooled off it came back on and > was ok- haven't had a problem with it since. I changed adapters > though because the adapter I was using had risen to 14 volts. I had > another problem with the same adapter with another 200LX where I was > charging batteries and using a pc card modem. It got very hot again > and shut down. I again found the adapter voltage had risen to 14 > volts. So I threw the adapter away. Now I only use adapters that are > regulated 12 volts and haven't had any more problems. > I would suspect your adapter voltage is > too high and the high voltage burned up your LX's charging circuit. > With 12 volts or less the LX will not get excessively warm while > charging even on the fast (100mA) charge and you won't experience any > problems. The adapter I was having problems with was a Radio Shack > 12 volt regulated linear adapter. The regulation wasn't worth beans > though. I was using the official HP charger and everything had been working fine. I'll check charging voltage on my spare 1mb 200LX but I have never noticed anything over 12.xx volts during charging using some old battery management (Ace Battman) software. I follow the in-200LX charging voltage fairly carefully in order to to determine the optimum charge. This failure was a real mystery and it happened in minutes. You're lucky your overheated LX came back! Mine's still dead... Sidney ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:23:41 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Case of data corruption on drive C: Tamas Feher writes: > Hello all, > > Something strange happened today to my used 2MB stock 200LX, > which I got about a month ago. It had a 8MB Nikon (OEM Sandisk) > CF card plugged in and single-use Varta Alkalines, which were at > 2.54V according to Stefan Peichl's Frames, CR coin at 2.9V. > > The backup remained intact on CF card, while on C: drive appt > book and notetaker entries went corrupt, they wouldn't load. DOS > chkdsk didn't help, reported corrupt directories, lost chains, etc. > > I immediately removed CF and run all tests with ESC-ON. Each > one finished OK. (Machine is SG640....... series). I've had only one instance of data corruption in the four years I've had my 32M 2X 200LX (SG708...). A few months ago I was adding an appointment and my palmtop froze while I was typing the description. After a hard reboot, the Appt db was corrupt. I was unable to fix it, and ended up reverting to a backup. I still don't know what caused the problem, but I suspect it was low batteries. At the time my NiMH cells were around 2.4, perhaps 2.3 V. The backup was okay as far as I know, but it was over a year old. I know the plural of anecdote is not data, but thought another observation might be of interest. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:07:30 -0700 Reply-To: ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong In-Reply-To: <20010422223803.22032.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII n Sun, 22 Apr 2001, hobchi wrote: > yesh, but whites is a minority in California Texas is next, then..... I saw articles stating that too. But: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/06000.html says that white persons make up 59.5% of California's population, which makes whites still a majority in California. Of course, Hispanic/Latino persons make up 32.4% of California's population, and since other areas of the Census Bureau's website seem to indicate that there is some degree of overlap between the "white" and "Hispanic" categories in a census, it could be that a portion (well, at least 9.5%) of the 59.5% figure is Hispanic, thus making whites a minority. As for Texas: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/48000.html shows that it reports 71.0% white. Not even close to California. (Interestingly, though, the percentage of people of Hispanic origin is 32.0%, proving that there must be overlap between "white" and "Hispanic", unless Texas has 103% of its population.) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:08:13 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Tachna wrote: > >>The compaq units have an excellent display but are plagued by > >>a persistent dust problem. > > do you mean dirt and dust get under the display where you cant clean it? Nobody seems to know where the dust comes from...aledgedly Compaq has a fix for it. It apparently is a product of the manuafacturing process. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:13:15 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this list isas great as America) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ian Butler wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > > > Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up > > 49% of the population so they now are a minority!!!! > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > > > The 49% figure came from the last census (2000). > > The 2000 Census results are finally out, and not surprisingly, they show > that Ken is about as wrong as a person can be. Whites in the United > States make up 75.1% of the population. See: > > http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I would suggest checking past issues of newspapers like the Boston Hearld which directly contradicts this figure. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:23:56 -0700 Reply-To: ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong In-Reply-To: <3AE3739B.90888966@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, KenLondon wrote: > I would suggest checking past issues of newspapers like the Boston > Hearld which directly contradicts this figure. Oh, yes, excellent suggestion. Let's trust the alleged estimate of a past issue of some newspaper you read long before the 2000 Census figures actually came out, rather than the official United States Census Bureau's figure now that they're done tabulating the real data. I'll get right on it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:25:59 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this list isas great as America) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ian Butler wrote: > The 2000 Census results are finally out, and not surprisingly, they show > that Ken is about as wrong as a person can be. Whites in the United > States make up 75.1% of the population. See: http://www.bostonherald.com/cgi-bin/www.bostonherald.com/search/search.bg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:52:37 +0800 Reply-To: Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong Comments: To: ian Butler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, ian Butler wrote: > it could be that a portion (well, at least 9.5%) of the > 59.5% figure is Hispanic, thus making whites a minority. Unless my math is totally screwed, that still leaves whites in the majority, unless you lump all non-white ethnic groups (Hispanic, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.) into a single category. I find that reallly, well, _strange_, although I've generally assumed that the paucity of racial categories is a TV thing (the average TV set's low resolution putting a limit on the length of readable lists). I could, of course, be utterly wrong. 8-) -- Adrian Ho aholx@singnet.com.sg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:05:15 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this listisas great as America) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KenLondon wrote: > http://www.bostonherald.com/cgi-bin/www.bostonherald.com/search/search.bg The wrong link comes up here.....it is supposed to bring up an article supporting my contention. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:10:48 -0700 Reply-To: ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Adrian Ho wrote: > Unless my math is totally screwed, that still leaves whites in the > majority, unless you lump all non-white ethnic groups (Hispanic, > Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.) into a single category. Oh, you're absolutely right, and Domingo pointed this out right after Ken's original post on 11 jan 2001. I just meant "minority" in the sense Ken used it -- a 50%+ majority is required for a particular group to be able to, say, vote itself special privileges and whatnot. But in fact, even if a group made up only, say, 40% of the population, they'd still be the largest single racial category, and therefore a majority. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:14:50 -0700 Reply-To: ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong In-Reply-To: <3AE37FCB.62EF197A@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Ken London wrote: > KenLondon wrote: > > > http://www.bostonherald.com/cgi-bin/www.bostonherald.com/search/search.bg > > The wrong link comes up here.....it is supposed to bring up an article > supporting my contention. That is the search results page. The URL for the actual article you got from that page would be good, although it looks like Boston Herald requires you to pay for the full text of articles. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:05:46 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: Last 2gb Jaz Disk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 1 2gb Jaz disk left. Thanks. http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:15:48 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this list is as great as America) Comments: To: ian Butler In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>that Ken is about as wrong as a person can be. Whites in the United >>States make up 75.1% of the population. See: man you guys really carry a grudge to remember that thread it was a while back ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:16:19 -0400 Reply-To: John Musielewicz Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: decimal to fractions converter In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know of one that runs on the 200LX? I searched the super site, simtel.net and did a search on yahoo but all I found was one written for windows and a dos one that required vga. Thanks. John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 03:53:35 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: John Musielewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Does anyone know of one that runs on the 200LX? I searched the super site, > simtel.net and did a search on yahoo but all I found was one written for > windows and a dos one that required vga. Thanks. Just last week I was also searching for something that did FRACTION math for adding and particularly dividing measurements - like 1/2 of 17 13/16 Did not find anything I liked. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 05:57:18 +0200 Reply-To: Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: dead LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Tried Ctrl-Alt-Del and tried Ctrl-ON-"up gold arrow" to reset but nothing. i think it's CTRL-SHIFT-ON in that order ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:12:55 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: Re: What if--Ken's comment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Ken for the comment on the dos emulators. How would I transfer my notetaker app to them--use the CPack 200 apps? Paul Nault ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:46:15 -0700 Reply-To: Craig Armstrong Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Craig Armstrong Subject: Sector by Sector copy of c: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary Mime-Version: 1.0 I'm tried of not being able to use the system manager on my 200lx. I stopped using it because my c: drive got corrupted and I wanted to attempt a reconstruction. How do I make an identicle copy of my corrupted c: drive so that I might be able to try and recover the data at a later time? What application should I use? I have a 2mb palmtop, with maxed out system ram. So c: is about 1.3 MB. Can I use interlnk or llra and copy to a floppy disk on another computer? Or do I need to get a 2MB PCMCIA card? Thanks, Craig ------------------------------------------------------------ --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:43:34 +0200 Reply-To: Sidney Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sidney Ho Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx-Revived! In-Reply-To: <200104230413.AAA10057@spdmgaab.compuserve.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Further to my own post: > on 4/22/01 John Musielewicz replied: >> I had a problem like this but my LX didn't squeal. I left it plugged >> in to the adapter and on and when I came back it was very hot and had >> shut down. I unplugged it and when it cooled off it came back on and >> was ok- haven't had a problem with it since. I changed adapters... to which I replied: > You're lucky your overheated LX came back! Mine's still dead... After reading about other revivals on HPLX list today, I decided to put in new batteries, change HP adapters and try again before shipping it off to Thaddeus--lo and behold--she's back to life! Sidney ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:00:19 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010423035332.KYVP4080.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Just last week I was also searching for something that did FRACTION math >>for adding and particularly dividing measurements - >> >>like 1/2 of 17 13/16 write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) fractions are only decimals with bad manners whip them into shape fred! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:31:01 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ian Butler wrote: > On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Ken London wrote: > >> Be careful who you call a minority...whites in the U.S. now make up >> 49% of the population so they now are a minority!!!! I believe if you'll check the archives I was the first to incorrectly state that whites are now a minority in Texas. I want full credit. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:40:01 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: 95LX port pinout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, since I'm asked often about serial port pinout of the 95LX I'm planning to provide that information on my homepage. Can anyone please give me reliable advice? It seems to me that we have 2* ground besides TX and RX, is this correct? Which pins lead which signals? And how is the "official" pin numbering? Thanks daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:36:07 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: 95LX port pinout In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > since I'm asked often about serial port pinout of the 95LX I'm planning > to provide that information on my homepage. > > Can anyone please give me reliable advice? > It seems to me that we have 2* ground besides TX and RX, is this > correct? Which pins lead which signals? And how is the "official" pin > numbering? Well, the HP48 manual differentiates between the two grounds. One is signal ground, the other is shield. According to some documentation on the HP48 serial port I have, Shield is only connected when you use a DB-25 connector, not a DB-9 (which are more common on PCs these days): ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.1 Cable Wiring The pin definitions for the HP 82208A (IBM) and 82209A (Macintosh) serial cables for the HP 48 are shown on the next page, including the 25 pin end of the 9-25 pin adapter. All signals are labeled from the HP 48's point of view. HP 48 I/O Cable Pinouts ______________ Macintosh end of cable | - - - | 5 -- RX (input)---|--V V-------| 4 -- Signal GND | - - - | | ¬-|--3 TX (output) \ - - / ----______---- PC end of cable with 9-25 adapter /------------------7 Signal GND | /----------3 TX (output) | | /--------2 RX (input) 13 V V V V------1 SHIELD ___________________________ \ O O O O O O O O O O O O O / \ O O O O O O O O O O O O / ----------------------- 25 14 PC end of cable /--------------5 Signal GND | /----------3 RX (input) | | /--------2 TX (output) V V V 1 _____________ \ O O O O O / \ O O O O / ------- 9 6 Notes: 1. Output = from HP 48 _________ s. Input = to HP48 | o o o o | \_______/ ¬ ¬ ¬ ¬ | | | \------ 1 SHIELD | | \---------2 TX (output) | \-----------3 RX (input) \-------------4 Signal GND ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The document I quote ("HP 48 I/O TECHNICAL INTERFACING GUIDE", copyright Hewlett Packard Company 1990) should be accurate or official even, but it covers the HP48, not the 95LX. The cables for the 95LX and HP48 can be interchanged (I've done this myself), but I don't know if ground/shield is wired the same way. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:58:42 -0400 Reply-To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: (No Subject) Comments: To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:00:47 -0400, Cliff Crittenden wrote: > > I just acquired a HP Omnibook 300. > > The hard drive does not work. > > I inserted a 64 Meg Smart Media card using an adapter and got the following error: > > "A PC card has been detected, but no driver is installed" > > I have been to the sandisk site and was unable to find the appropiate driver. > > Any other suggestions? Use a Sandisk Flash or compact flash card. I do not believe you can load the driver for the Smart Media because it would have to be on the system ROM card in order for the Smart Media card to be recognized as drive C: Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:01:55 -0700 Reply-To: Jim Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Lee Subject: Re: Traveler's tip LX & OB800 Comments: To: colin cohen In-Reply-To: <0dee01c0cbfe$feddbbd0$1cf7143f@onesoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used a current-limiting power supply, but a car battery with ~1ohm resistor in series would work just as well. If you can't find a resistor that size, you could substitute about 100ft of wire. Either way, I'd put a 15- or 20- amp slo-blo fuse in series as well to protect yourself, and as always I will disclaim responsibility for any damage you may cause :-)... The key is (very) short bursts of relatively high current to melt the crystalline structures that have formed inside the cells over time due to non-use. Jim Lee -----Original Message----- From: colin cohen Ýmailto:colincohen@email.msn.com¨ Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 6:53 AM To: jlee@proaxis.com; HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Travler's tip LX & OB800 Jim: What was your power source for the zap process? Colin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:35:26 +0200 Reply-To: Nels.Sennmark@TELIA.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Digest Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. I have bought my self a Cassiopeia E-115. It was $250 at a auction site. I was not looking to replace my 200lx. I bought it instead of a mp3 player. and as a bonus I can view movies on the it. It is very nice to being able to watch films when ever You like. But for that I need a CF card as a film is about 150MB. It comes with 32M RAM. Anyhow I have tried it as a replacement for the 200lx (Thanks to Curtis for his outlook to hp sync program! ) and I must say that it stays a MP3 player and my hp200lx stays as my main PC. The PocketPC Cassiopeia is cool but the hp200lx is functional. The Cassiopeia has a fast cpu , wich lets me play doom and quake :). There is also a PalmPilot EMULATOR for it - no kidding :-P .But the PocetPC OS with its GUI slows it down. I find the PocetPC GUI confusing sometimes. A plus is that You dont have to learn any Grafitti typing as the PalmPilot has. The Cassiopeia lets You write as You would with a ordinary pen. The Cassiopeias web browser is very good. It lets me view https sites as well a java and frames. The email client is ok. But www/lx seams to be faster and more informative on what is going on. (I have only tried it with my Nokia 8210 and it does not disturb the Cassiopeia) The hp200 calendar is better and lets You have a months overview. On the Cassiopeia You only see a cube on the date if it has an appointment. The cassiopeia batteries wear out fast. I ran a movieclip for continous use without a cf card. The fresh batteries ran out in 90min. They last longer if I use the Cassiopeia as I use the hp200lx. To be able to watch films I have made a batterypack with 4 NiCd that I connect externaly. I think that a PalmPilot is a good choice as it is becoming a "standard" for handhelds. And it is very small. The Cassiopeia is not as big as the hp200lx, but almost. But I am going to keep my hp200lx. tomas moberg /Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:56:13 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong (was Re: Why this list is as great as America) Comments: To: Larry Tachna In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This thread should have stayed dead! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:18:41 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Ken London was completely wrong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry ably wrote: > I believe if you'll check the archives I was the first to > incorrectly state that whites are now a minority in Texas. > > I want full credit. Yeah, God forbid you'll be misquoted and Ken will have to apologize to you for it... Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:16:58 -0400 Reply-To: Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: What if ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 03:05:57 -0700 > From: Bulent Bicioglu > Subject: What if ... > > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. > I use handhelds as adjuncts to the big iron, which in my case is Omnibook subnotebooks. I'm not going to try to keep 10 GB of data on a hand-held, or do serious work with maps or graphics on one. I use a PDA (starting back with an HP-41 I wrote my own apps for) to supplement the other computer, and provide quick access to the critical stuff. I'm not going to try to run a business from my back pocket. Like everyone else has said - it depends on what you want it for. Everything I do on a 200 I can also do on a Pocket PC (contacts, appointemnts, word processing, spreadsheets, database, e-books, games). The PPC also gives me MS Money (Quicken for Windows is a loser. The Mac "Gotta use a mouse for everything" influence shows), mapping programs (Streets & Trips, Street Atlas, Topo USA, etc.), colour picture viewing, and audio. If I need it I can get a terminal emulation program, networking support is built in out of the box - just add NIC, there's a web browser (for frames, you need to move to the HPC), the stylus entry allows free-form drawing, the SDK (including VB and VC++) is a free download from Microsoft. It *really* fits in an ordinary pocket with room for a pen or two or some keys unlike the 200. The screen's backlit with 4 preset, customizable settings so I can read it in lighting conditions the 200 doesn't work in. It's also a better shape for walking around using than a LX. It uses standard CF memory, so data exchange with the 200 isn't a big deal if you can't or won't go cold turkey. For widespread availability of a variety of applications, you'd want to look at the Palm family (Palm, Handspring, TRG, Sony for those who like proprietary and copy-protection). Their usable screen area is smaller, since they generally have a dedicated pen-entry area. Agenda has a Linux-based unit, which can even run X windows sessions. The end-user software's just coming out for it now, but . . . Moving to units with keyboards, there are the HPCs, which have more typeable keyboards than the 200, although no numeric keypad, and a web browser that supports frames. Otherwise they have the same capabilities as the PPCs in a bigger package. There's also the Psion, about which I freely admit knowing only that there's a bunch of stuff for it, and that one version or another has been around forever (like the LX family). If you want to get an idea about the PPCs and HPCs running WinCE, pull down the WinCE SDK, which includes emulators for your desktop. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:42:56 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: C-Programming help needed! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gerhard and others, On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:13:14 +0200, Gerhard Gonter wrote: > This looks like a libc problem, that is, your gcc does not find the > appropriate version of it during linking. > > > If the one who would like to help needs the source code it's no problem > > for me to give it away, since pdb2adr should be open source anyway. > > I'd like to take a look at the source, if you want to forward it to me. There were only problems concerning memory allocation / freeing. Nothing more. And these errors seemed to have several side effects. Grzegorz from Poland helped me to solve my problems and thus taught me a few very important things in C. :-) Thank you! The program pdb2adr will be finished soon, and I'll announce it here and publish it on my web site in a few days. Thanks so much daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:12:20 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: "F. Kaufman" > > Does anyone know of one that runs on the 200LX? I searched the super site, > > simtel.net and did a search on yahoo but all I found was one written for > > windows and a dos one that required vga. Thanks. > > Just last week I was also searching for something that did FRACTION math for > adding and particularly dividing measurements - > > like 1/2 of 17 13/16 > > Did not find anything I liked. Did you check out fif.zip on simtel.net? It works with fractions but requires vga. John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:12:22 -0400 Reply-To: a123456@bitstream.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Musielewicz Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx-Revived! Comments: To: Sidney Ho > After reading about other revivals on HPLX list today, I decided to put in > new batteries, change HP adapters and try again before shipping it off to > Thaddeus--lo and behold--she's back to life! > Way to go!! The 200LX is very tough. John John Musielewicz Pegasus Mail: The mailer for DOS ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:35:00 +0000 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Jornada 720 Comments: To: Oliver Chua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bud, The battery is a special Litium Ion. It is supposed to last 8 hours, but I haven't had it long enough to give it a real 8 hour workout. I got two batteries with my unit(bought it on ebay) and a charger so I'm being real conservative. BTW, the built in modem doesn't seem to drain the battery at all. When I get back home I'll have to experiment with that too. My quickbasic programs run perfectlly except for the graphics mode on my stock market program. I have yet to experiment with the different graphics modes, so I don't know if it's me or the machine. Mike... ----Original Message----- >From: =09Oliver Chua >To: =09Mike Schneider >Subject: =09Jornada 720 >Date: =09Sunday, April 22, 2001 7:21 PM > > >Mike, > >May I ask what kind of battery does your 720 use and how long do they last? > >I too am interested on what can replace my 200LX when it croaks. I, like >you, also use quickbasic 4.5. > >Regards, > >bud > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:34:29 -0600 Reply-To: david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: Jornada 720 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My internal modem died due to static discharge (touched the computer while it was connected only to the modem line, that was enough to kill the internal modem.) Since then (after fix under warranty by HP) I'm a bit paranoid and use a PSION IRDA modem... While I wish there was more software (in particular I wish there was a good photo editing program that could handle very large image files 3-4 mbytes without crashing) it is a handy machine, Dave >From: Mike Schneider >Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Jornada 720 >Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:35:00 +0000 > >Hi Bud, > >The battery is a special Litium Ion. It is supposed to last 8 hours, but I >haven't had it long enough to give it a real 8 hour workout. I got two >batteries with my unit(bought it on ebay) and a charger so I'm being real >conservative. BTW, the built in modem doesn't seem to drain the battery at >all. When I get back home I'll have to experiment with that too. > >My quickbasic programs run perfectlly except for the graphics mode on my >stock market program. I have yet to experiment with the different graphics >modes, so I don't know if it's me or the machine. > >Mike... > >----Original Message----- > >From: Oliver Chua > >To: Mike Schneider > >Subject: Jornada 720 > >Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 7:21 PM > > > > > >Mike, > > > >May I ask what kind of battery does your 720 use and how long do they >last? > > > >I too am interested on what can replace my 200LX when it croaks. I, >like > >you, also use quickbasic 4.5. > > > >Regards, > > > >bud > > > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 01:29:34 -0400 Reply-To: castorlw@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Castor Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Musielewicz, >>I would suspect your adapter voltage is too high and the high voltage = burned up your LX's charging circuit. With 12 volts or less the LX will = not get excessively warm while charging even on the fast (100mA) charge = and you won't experience any problems.<< I have listened to the "warm charging" issues for years now and as a = result have always stayed away from rechargables. Could it be that the = solution all along was to just use a quality charger? I have always used = the HP charger so I would not expect any voltage problems with it. Maybe = I will give it a try. Thanks for sharing. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:58:22 -0700 Reply-To: Paul Ainsworth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Ainsworth Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Larry Tachna wrote: > write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) > fractions are only decimals with bad manners whip them into shape fred! I think you mean (17+(13/16))/2. As for turning the decimal result into a fraction, if it's a non-repeating decimal you can just place the decimal part over 1 followed by as many zeros as there are digits. For instance, .2456 is 2456/10000. .1020=1020/10000, or 102/1000. However, when it comes to repeating decimals, it's a little trickier. You need to subtract the non-repeating part from the whole thing, where the repeating number is treated as one number. For instance, .235666666666666..., you take 2356, and subtract off 235. 2356-235 = 2121. Then, you place that number over as many 9's as there are repeating digits, followed by as many zeros as there are non-repeating digits. In this case, there is 1 repeating digit (6), and 3 non-repeating digits (235), so the fraction would be 2121/9000. Sounds complicated at first, but it's pretty easy once you get used to it. As for having a program do this for you, you'd have to somehow have it recognize when a number is repeating. If I were going to write a program to add fractions, I'd just have it find the least common denominator and add them that way, and then feed that into a fraction simplifying routine, which searches for common divisors of the numerator and denominator. For this routine, you could loop from 2 to the square root of the minimum of the numerator and denominator, starting the loop over each time you find a number that divides both of them into whole number parts. For those of you wanting a program to do any of these things, I could probably write one for you in QBASIC, if you'd like. Or a .EXM, if I get ambitious enough. Paul Ainsworth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 08:28:37 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Fwd:43000 bps with 6210 initstrings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Stefan On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:46:29 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > The Nokia 8210 also supports the CHSN command, but only up to > 14400 KBits/s. The 8210 answers to AT+CHSN=? with > > +CHSN: (0-2),(0,1),(0),(0,4,8,12) > > (see the PDF:"AT Command Set for Nokia 8210" for explanations). > > To me, that means, the 8210 also supports High Speed Circuit > Switched Data (HSCSD). However I cannot test it, because my > provider only supports GPRS :-( That's not correct. You can sqeeze 14.400 kbps out of one single GSM channel (=time slot). HSCSD uses more than one time slot at once to transmit data, thus the bitrate of 14.400 of 9600 for one time slot is multiplied by the number of time slots you use (up to 4, AFAIK). I don't know why data communication was set to 9600 first, although 14.400 are possible with plain GSM. Probably because of some protocol overhead for error protection which can be left away, but I don't know for sure. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:29:21 -0700 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am aware of how much voltage the supposedly 12V adapter will put out. As a result, I have always used a 9V adapter for charging and have never had any problem. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Larry Castor To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:41 PM Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx John Musielewicz, >>I would suspect your adapter voltage is too high and the high voltage burned up your LX's charging circuit. With 12 volts or less the LX will not get excessively warm while charging even on the fast (100mA) charge and you won't experience any problems.<< I have listened to the "warm charging" issues for years now and as a result have always stayed away from rechargables. Could it be that the solution all along was to just use a quality charger? I have always used the HP charger so I would not expect any voltage problems with it. Maybe I will give it a try. Thanks for sharing. Larry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:37:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Corso, Tony" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Corso, Tony" Subject: Palm emulator for CE devices - (was - What if ...) Comments: To: "Nels.Sennmark@TELIA.COM" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCD4.6E060DE8" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCD4.6E060DE8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a Palm emulator for CE? where is it? Right now I run J Ýunder CE¨, K Ýunder linux¨ , and APL Ýunder dos emulation¨ on my IPAQ, and am trying to get Andreas's'' PIM app to run under the dos emulator. Vindigo is the one thing that is missing from the CE world Ývindigo is palm only¨. There are times when i need a numeric keypad, however, and i still like the 200lx form factor. The Jornada's are bigger than a 200lx, and have no numeric keypad. I could run everything i need on a "morphy one", but that is looking more and more like a unicorn Ýa nice idea that does not exist¨ Regards T > -----Original Message----- > From: Digest Tomas Moberg Ýmailto:Nels.Sennmark@TELIA.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:35 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: What if ... SNIP > The PocketPC Cassiopeia is cool but the hp200lx is functional. The > Cassiopeia has a fast cpu , wich lets me play doom and quake :). There > is also a PalmPilot EMULATOR for it - no kidding :-P .B > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCD4.6E060DE8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Palm emulator for CE devices - (was - What if ...)

There is a Palm emulator for CE? where is it?

Right now I run J Ýunder CE¨, K Ýunder linux¨ , and = APL Ýunder dos emulation¨ on my IPAQ, and am trying to get Andreas's'' = PIM app to run under the dos emulator. Vindigo is the one thing that is = missing from the CE world Ývindigo is palm only¨.

There are times when i need a numeric keypad, = however, and i still like the 200lx form factor. The Jornada's are = bigger than a 200lx, and have no numeric keypad. I could run everything = i need on a "morphy one", but that is looking more and more = like a unicorn Ýa nice idea that does not exist¨

Regards
T

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Digest Tomas Moberg Ýmailto:Nels.Sennmark@TELIA.COM¨
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:35 PM
> To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu
> Subject: Re: What if ...

SNIP

> The PocketPC Cassiopeia is cool but the hp200lx = is functional. The
> Cassiopeia has a fast cpu , wich lets me play = doom and quake :). There
> is also a PalmPilot EMULATOR for it - no = kidding :-P .B
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCD4.6E060DE8-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:35:22 EDT Reply-To: Class3Dep@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Dennis Vest Subject: Re: Fluff: poetry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if a PacRim parallel floppy from an OmniBook will work on an LX using a PCMCIA parallel card? Dennis > For that matter a floppy is not usable in the 200lx either unless you have > a pcmcia floppy adapter. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:24:55 -0500 Reply-To: "R.V. O'Berry" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.V. O'Berry" Subject: Zip 250 USB with PCMCIA adapter and HP200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have experience using a 1st gen Zip 250 USB with the PCMCIA adapter connected to a 200LX? I know it would be a battery hog if would work so I would plan on using supplemental power. Iomega 2nd gen Zip 250 USB drives are USB powered so they eliminated the PCMCIA port on the drive. If this would work it would be a cheap and fast alternative to the parallel port solution for Zip drives. TIA, Rick O'Berry Bottomland Forest (dba Moondance Designs) certified by the Alabama Department of Agriculture and Industries Certification # 7912 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:57:04 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Alfred, On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:29:21 -0700, Alfred Lee wrote: > I am aware of how much voltage the supposedly 12V adapter will put out. As > a > result, I have always used a 9V adapter for charging and have never had any > problem. 9V does not work with every palmtop. I accidentally switched a regulated AC adapter to 9V and connected it to the palmto pand wondered why the palmtop didn't switch on. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:16:01 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Sparcom Drive95 on a 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have any experience using one of these? I picked one up off eBay and can't get it to work on my 200. I just get the "drive not ready" error. I followed instructions from an old PTP that said to open filer and press "remote" and then wait for it to time out. Then I should be able to go to the drive letter and see files. But, of course, I can't. The drive95.sys does initialize and map a drive letter when the unit is attached at bootup. I've tried single & double speed 200's wondering if that were the problem. Any Hints? Or, did I just buy a dead drive? Thanks to the learned many, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:03:16 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Homepage updated! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I'm just updating my home page. The upload will be finished in about 30 minutes (10.15pm MST). http://www.daniel-hertrich.de It has been moved to another ISP, so I now have enough space to put all the pictures directly besides the HTMLs - no problems anymore with loading the pictures in my HTMLs, as often occured in the past. I also modified the structure slightly, so if you have bookmarks, please make sure they are up-to-date. But the most important updates are information updates, especially on the pages about connecting the HPLX to the internet via mobile phone (Bluetooth, GPRS and UMTS updates, and a few minor changes), on the EMI page and on the REX-3 synchronization page I've added current / removed old information. Other updates: * The serial port info page is updated (95LX port info added). * There is a new DMSIM version available. * PDB2ADR is now available (synchronization between phone book and Post/LX) So if you are interested in topics like mobile internet with the palmtop, REX-3 synchronizing, running LaTeX on the palmtop and some other things, please visit my home page. If you encounter any problems (broken links, missing images...), please report! TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:34:38 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Sector by Sector copy of c: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:46:15 -0700, Craig Armstrong wrote: > I'm tried of not being able to use the system manager on my 200lx. I stopped using it because my c: drive got corrupted and I wanted to attempt a reconstruction. > > How do I make an identicle copy of my corrupted c: drive so that I might be able to try and recover the data at a later time? I use Lxbackup and zip up the cdrive every day to a flashcard. When I want to do a full recover I boot with Ctrl+Left shift+On. Then I reinitialize the disc and boot to the card. On the card I have what I need. Pkunzip and Volkon commander. I unzip the latest archive and then use Volkon commander to move the dirs to the Cdrive. I am up and running again in about 10 minutes. > What application should I use? Well what I do does not work unless you have a memorycard. > I have a 2mb palmtop, with maxed out system ram. So c: is about 1.3 MB. Can I use interlnk or llra and copy to a floppy disk on another computer? Or do I need to get a 2MB PCMCIA card? Memorycard. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:40:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Don E. Weatherly" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Don E. Weatherly" Subject: FS: HP200LX, 32MB, DS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have a HP200LX, 32MB, Double Speed, with AC adapter, serial cable, case, and light. It's one of my backups, so it's in like new condition. Before I place it on eBay I thought I would offer it here first. If you are interested, make me an offer OFF the mail list at weather@exis.net. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:44:09 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>Just last week I was also searching for something that did FRACTION math > >>for adding and particularly dividing measurements - > >> > >>like 1/2 of 17 13/16 > > write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) > fractions are only decimals with bad manners whip them into shape fred! THANKS!!!!! larry!!!!!!!!! (g) Decimals with bad manners, huh! (G) You've been to parent/teacher week recently haven't you? (G) Actually, when I read my message back to John just now, I thought - if I just used metric rules/tapes, I would not have this problem. I'd just find the metric value, find that about 45 centimeters and divide that. (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:44:13 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Sector by Sector copy of c: Comments: To: Craig Armstrong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I'm tried of not being able to use the system manager on my 200lx. I stopped using it because my c: drive got corrupted and I wanted to attempt a reconstruction. > > How do I make an identicle copy of my corrupted c: drive so that I might be able to try and recover the data at a later time? > > What application should I use? If you have used the HP at all, you still might have altered files or at least the FAT (file allocation table) on the c: drive. In any event, I believe version 4.5 of Norton Disk Doctor could copy from a beginning sector to an ending sector of the user's choice and save it all to a file and then that file could be used to restore back. I have not done anything like it in ages. So you'd need a disk which was large enough to hold your corrupted c: Good luck. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:15:41 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: ANN: PDB2ADR v1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, here is the first version of PDB2ADR which lets you export your phone book data to Post/LX. Email entries and mobile phone number entries are converted to the format of the Post/LX address book file "post.adr". I know this version still has one bug: You cannot let it convert the content of the last filed of a data base (more accurate: The last column in the CDF file you first create with GDBIO). But this will be changed in the next version. I think this version should work for most of you. See http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/pdb2adr for more info. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 23:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I supposed the difference is being regulated, which really puts out 9V. Whereas an unregulated 9V puts out nearly 12V. Even under the load of charging the batteries, it does not fall much. At least I have been using 9V adapter (and sometimes opposite polarity; of course it does not work (and not destroyed)) for years without any problem. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Hertrich To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:58 AM Subject: Re: Failed Overheating 200lx >Hi Alfred, > >On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:29:21 -0700, Alfred Lee wrote: > >> I am aware of how much voltage the supposedly 12V adapter will put out. As >> a >> result, I have always used a 9V adapter for charging and have never had any >> problem. > >9V does not work with every palmtop. I accidentally switched a >regulated AC adapter to 9V and connected it to the palmto pand wondered >why the palmtop didn't switch on. > >GTX >daniel > >-- >Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de >home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de >mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 >unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:33:22 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive95 on a 200lx Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings from sunny South Africa :-) I use a Drive95 on my 95LX and the only errors encountered would seem to be related to the power supply when low voltage condition exists. Are you running the drive AND 200LX on an AC adaptor? What is the status of the tri-colour (English spelling ) LED? i.e. is there any data exchange? Another query I would have is the connecting cable / interface as there is a difference between the 95 and 100/200 serial ports (or so I have been led to believe...). Hope the above is of some value. All the best Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:10:19 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: PPP and Internet with Minix on HPLX. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:35:37 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After Palm emulators for CE seem to appear, let me point you to a DOS emulator for the Palm. It is written by famous Harry Konstas, the author of PALRUN and coauthor of PAL. It looks like he switched to the TRGpro and continues his outstanding work there: http://www.total.net/~hkonstas/trgdos.html TRGdos 1.3 ---------- -DOS environment for TRGpro handhelds. -Limited DOS operations on other Palm handhelds. -Freeware Introduction: ------------- TRGdos is the first and only, true DOS environment for TRGPro handheld computers. TRGdos is very similar to the good old COMMAND.COM. It's not only used for CF file operations, it's a DOS environment were TRGdos applications and batch files can be launched. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:49:58 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available In-Reply-To: <14sNZN-0fzo6TC@fwd03.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Stefan Peichl wrote: > After Palm emulators for CE seem to appear, let me point you > to a DOS emulator for the Palm. It is written by famous > Harry Konstas, the author of PALRUN and coauthor of PAL. > It looks like he switched to the TRGpro and continues his > outstanding work there: Before you get people's hopes up, it might be worth mentioning that this is better described as a _simulator_ (I don't believe that Konstas calls it an emulator either). It gives the user a DOS-like environment on the Palm and provides a (growing, I assume) standard library for C programmers that wish to make console-based applications for the Palm. It does not run MS-DOS applications, nor does it even emulate an Intel CPU. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:08:49 +0000 Reply-To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Homepage updated! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > I'm just updating my home page. > * The serial port info page is updated (95LX port info added). > * There is a new DMSIM version available. > * PDB2ADR is now available (synchronization between phone book and > Post/LX) > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de Daniel, I really want to thank you for the support you give to the HP users. I still remember your first steps on the Palmtop some years ago and now you are one the few specialists. Your homepage should be bookmarked by every Palmtop user. Too many valuable information there. And indeed your palmtop-mobile page is getting more important every day. If your professional career has the same quality and speed, you will doubtlessly reach a very high level, which I wish you indeed. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:10:37 -0400 Reply-To: Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Zip 250 USB with PCMCIA adapter and HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:24:55 -0500 > From: "R.V. O'Berry" > Subject: Zip 250 USB with PCMCIA adapter and HP200LX > > Does anyone have experience using a 1st gen Zip 250 USB with the PCMCIA > adapter connected to a 200LX? I know it would be a battery hog if would > work so I would plan on using supplemental power. Iomega 2nd gen Zip 250 > USB drives are USB powered so they eliminated the PCMCIA port on the drive. > If this would work it would be a cheap and fast alternative to the parallel > port solution for Zip drives. > > TIA, Rick O'Berry > > You'd have better luck getting a SCSI-based drive running. Iomega only offers drivers for the USB/PCMCIA adapter for Win9x/2000. and NT4. The adapter's really an ATAPI adapter (ports specified for the drive are USB and ATAPI), so you'd need to find DOS drivers for that. Other companies *do* claim their PCMCIA-ATAPI adapters are DOS compatible, but who knows whether they need '386 support as well, or if they'd work on Iomega's adapter. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:59:52 +1000 Reply-To: Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Unix shell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone here recommend a good unix-like shell for the LX (eg bash or cshell)? Thanks, Tim Pitman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:23:46 -0600 Reply-To: david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: Unix shell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I have been using "Mortice Kern Systems" tools which includes k-shell, etc., the version I use is for 32 bit windows however the k-shell is actually just a glorified command.com and is a 16-bit "dos box" environment... Perhaps it would work in a DOS environment or they have version for same. www.mks.com I believe. Dave >From: Tim Pitman >Reply-To: Tim Pitman >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Unix shell >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:59:52 +1000 > >Can anyone here recommend a good unix-like shell for the LX (eg bash or >cshell)? > >Thanks, > >Tim Pitman > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:56:51 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Unix shell In-Reply-To: <002d01c0cd87$a3136450$5d01a8c0@joybox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Tim Pitman wrote: > Can anyone here recommend a good unix-like shell for the LX (eg bash or > cshell)? As already mentioned, there is the MKS toolkit, older versions of which work great on the LX. However, I doubt the current Windows version will work on the LX. Alternatively, there is a freeware implementation of the Korn Shell available. It takes a while to setup, but it works very well (if perhaps a bit on the slow side, due to swapping if you don't have EMS) on the LX and is highly configurable: ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/pc/unix/ms_sh23b.zip (800kb) The large file size is due to the fact that the ZIP file includes binaries for several platforms, including 16 and 32 bit DOS and OS/2. Keep in mind that you will also need external utilities (eg ls, cp, mv, etc.) for it to be really useful. For that I suggest you either check out the unix directory on "Garbo" (referenced above) or the Gnuish section of Simtel: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/gnuish/ Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:25:05 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Paul Ainsworth MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Larry Tachna wrote: > > write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) > > fractions are only decimals with bad manners whip them into shape fred! > >As for turning the decimal result into a > fraction, if it's a non-repeating decimal you can just place the decimal > part over 1 followed by as many zeros as there are digits. For instance, > .2456 is 2456/10000. .1020=1020/10000, or 102/1000. etc Fascinating - absolutely fascinating. I did not learn anything like that when I went to public school eons ago in Da Bronx. If you do whip something up - share it with the group. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:13:52 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010425142502.MFMC4080.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> from "F. Kaufman" at Apr 25, 2001 02:25:05 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >As for turning the decimal result into a > > fraction, if it's a non-repeating decimal you can just place the decimal > > part over 1 followed by as many zeros as there are digits. For instance, > > .2456 is 2456/10000. .1020=1020/10000, or 102/1000. etc > > Fascinating - absolutely fascinating. I did not learn anything like > that when I went to public school eons ago in Da Bronx. I agree with your comment, but found it funny that you included in your quote the part of his instructions that were the plainly obvious ones. Writing .145 as 145/1000 is the very definition of decimal notation, and isn't anything to write home about. And you didn't quote the section that described the fascination technique, the one that explains repeating fractions. I am going to sit down tonight and analyze what's going on. Pretty neat! Reminds me of the techniques I dug up in the manual for my pocket "mechanical" computer (a Curta Type II) on extracting square roots. -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:24:10 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >As for turning the decimal result into a > > fraction, if it's a non-repeating decimal you can just place the decimal > > part over 1 followed by as many zeros as there are digits. For instance, > > .2456 is 2456/10000. .1020=1020/10000, or 102/1000. etc > > Fascinating - absolutely fascinating. I did not learn anything like > that when I went to public school eons ago in Da Bronx. > > If you do whip something up - share it with the group. I have a clever little (3k) 123 spreadsheet someone in this group gave me once. You enter a decimal number and it computes 5 different fractions, each with increasing accuracy. So for example, entering "3.14" shows (for the first two fractions): 22/7 (accuracy 0.002847..) and 157/50 (balls on). Making it more challenging, entering "3.1415926536" gets the fraction 22/7 again (for the low end accuracy), and 104348/33215 for an accuracy of 0.0000000003). Let me know if anyone wants a copy. I think it was never posted to SUPER because there's not a specific place for spreadsheets and it was so small (but oooooh so useful on the LX). But if there's a place for it now in SUPER, I'll post it there. I'd give credit to the author, but I can't recall his name (sorry, if you're still on the list). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:59:47 -0400 Reply-To: Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I certainly seems to be more of a 'simulator' than Stefan's palm 'simulator' running on the 200lx ;¬> . I've often wondered if it were possible to write a Dos or intel emulator on the palm platform. That's one positive thing you can say about the WinCE devices. They have enough horsepower to emulate an 80186 and run any OS you want that will run on that chip. (XT-CE). I thought that palms really lacked the horsepower to make it happen but it looks like Harry achieved the next best thing in creating an environment and an API. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu¨On Behalf Of Laust Brock-Nannestad Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 7:50 AM To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Subject: Re: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Stefan Peichl wrote: > After Palm emulators for CE seem to appear, let me point you > to a DOS emulator for the Palm. It is written by famous > Harry Konstas, the author of PALRUN and coauthor of PAL. > It looks like he switched to the TRGpro and continues his > outstanding work there: Before you get people's hopes up, it might be worth mentioning that this is better described as a _simulator_ (I don't believe that Konstas calls it an emulator either). It gives the user a DOS-like environment on the Palm and provides a (growing, I assume) standard library for C programmers that wish to make console-based applications for the Palm. It does not run MS-DOS applications, nor does it even emulate an Intel CPU. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:19:20 -0700 Reply-To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I have a clever little (3k) 123 spreadsheet someone in this group gave me > once. .... > Let me know if anyone wants a copy. I meant by private email ... of course you all knew that . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:41:06 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Homepage updated! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Stefan, On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:08:49 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > Daniel, I really want to thank you for the support you give to > the HP users. I still remember your first steps on the Palmtop > some years ago and now you are one the few specialists. Yes, I also remember my first steps. I exactly remember how I drove home from the store where I bought the 200LX in 1997, put the package onto the table in front of me and opened it...... 8-) Since then it is the most important machine which I use - besides my insuline pump, of course ;-) And I strongly hope that my efforts will keep the 200LX and its community a little bit longer alive... ..and I remember your nephew visiting me about 1.5 years ago with his 100LX to buy my used flash card. How is he doing now? Is he also such an enthusiastic user of the LX as we are? > Your homepage should be bookmarked by every Palmtop user. > Too many valuable information there. And indeed your > palmtop-mobile page is getting more important every day. > > If your professional career has the same quality and speed, > you will doubtlessly reach a very high level, which I wish you > indeed. Thanks for the nice words and thanks of course for your cooperation regarding PDU and all your other tools. Without them, the palmtop would have only half the value it has now. Regarding my career, yes, I try hard to be as good as possible. And I have to decide every minute if I program something for the palmtop or if I rather have to learn something for my job or studies. I try to combine that in a way that every side profits by the other. And since my studies go directly in the direction mobile internet and communications in general, I will be able to care about that topic also for the palmtop community a lot. Thanks daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:44:17 +0200 Reply-To: h_e_guenther@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Homepage updated! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, great appreciation! Daniel all my respect! Kind regards Helmuth > Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > > I'm just updating my home page. > > * The serial port info page is updated (95LX port info added). > > * There is a new DMSIM version available. > > * PDB2ADR is now available (synchronization between phone book and > > Post/LX) > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > > Daniel, I really want to thank you for the support you give to > the HP users. I still remember your first steps on the Palmtop > some years ago and now you are one the few specialists. > > Your homepage should be bookmarked by every Palmtop user. > Too many valuable information there. And indeed your > palmtop-mobile page is getting more important every day. > > If your professional career has the same quality and speed, > you will doubtlessly reach a very high level, which I wish you > indeed. > > Stefan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:23:29 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Palmtop Circuit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, on my home oage I report about PaCi (Palmtop Circuit), which is a software to fraw and analyze electronic circuits on the palmtop. On the page and in answers to questions I got in the past years, I referred all of you to www.designsoft.com as the web age of the company DesignSoft who made PaCi. THIS WAS WRONG!!! I finally found the correct page and now I want to let you all know the correct URL to DesignSoft. It's http://www.designsoftware.com They still mention PaCi on their web site, but there is no option to order it anymore (at least I couldn't find one). If you are interested, please ask the responsible persons Mihaly Koltai or Tibor Horvath. Maybe Tamas Feher (member of this list) is also able to give advice here. He managed the contact between some of us who were interested and DesignSoft some years ago. I also apdated the links on my home page. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:58:10 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: PDB2ADR still buggy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I just added a whole bunch of new contact data to my phone book and then tried to use my PDB2ADR to create a post.adr from it. But it failed. :-((( It seems that still something with memory allocation / freeing is still wrong in the source code. On the palmtop PDB2ADR simply stops before it has converted the whole file (but doesn't freeze the system anymore, like it did before), and on my linux machine I get a segmentation fault ("Speicherzugriffsfehler" - is this a segmentation fault?). I would greatly appreciate if someone could have a look into the source again (Grzegorz - do you volunteer once more? ;-) ). I looked and looked and didn't find anything which could cause that error. The program with source can be downloaded at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/pdb2adr/pdb2adr.zip Thanks a lot daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 05:38:14 -0500 Reply-To: "R.V. O'Berry" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.V. O'Berry" Subject: Re: Zip 250 USB with PCMCIA adapter and HP200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:10 AM 4/25/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:24:55 -0500 >> From: "R.V. O'Berry" >> Subject: Zip 250 USB with PCMCIA adapter and HP200LX Thanks, Jon, I see your point on the Win-based drivers and ATAPI interface issue. I have an Adaptec 1460 SCSI card and a SCSI Zip drive. I'll pursue that approach and let you know how it turns out. Regards, Rick >You'd have better luck getting a SCSI-based drive running. Iomega only >offers drivers for the USB/PCMCIA adapter for Win9x/2000. and NT4. The >adapter's really an ATAPI adapter (ports specified for the drive are USB and >ATAPI), so you'd need to find DOS drivers for that. Other companies *do* >claim their PCMCIA-ATAPI adapters are DOS compatible, but who knows whether >they need '386 support as well, or if they'd work on Iomega's adapter. > >Jon > >Jon Barrett >jonzann@altavista.net >Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! >(And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) >500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP > - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:30:29 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Battery Life with 200LX Off ?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have couple of backup LXs; they have batteries in them but I've also kept them on the AC supply. To do my part during California's power crisis I'm trying to shut down everything that doesn't need to be on; example is the AC supply for those backup LXs. With only alkaline batteries in them, but remaining Off, how long will the batteries last? I guess I could also stop SysMgr to keep it from looking for appointments. Also, there won't be any pcmcia cards in them. Any estimates on battery life? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:45:26 -0500 Reply-To: Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FA: 32MB DS 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1233238564&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=988854215&indexURL=0&rd=1 Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:44:57 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Paul Ainsworth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I think you mean (17+(13/16))/2. As for turning the decimal result into a no i meant exactly what i typed, turn the fractions into decimals by dividing them, 13 divided by 16 is .8125 than add the whole number 17 + .8125 = 17.8125 the () should be correct if you were programming this with variables for C the solver equation would be easy ps nothing after 4 places to the right of the decimal point matters in my world so it gets lopped off, see how simple life can be ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:04:00 -0600 Reply-To: dansedelux Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: dansedelux Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel--checked out your homepage. I would like to know if there are insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have one that works on EXCEL with the PC, but a Palm or HPLX app would be great for my patients with pumps. Paul ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:04:14 +0200 Reply-To: Nigel Rotherham Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nigel Rotherham Subject: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) My question has been asked before but circumstances are now very different (as so far unable to find a replacement 95) so before making a move or extending my search for a 95 thought the views of fellow enthusiast could be of value... I have been using my HP95LX for more than 6 years and regard it as a mainstay of my computing needs (I am a self employed). Sure I use a desk machine but my 95 is a much used tool that I would seriously miss. My current concern relates to upgrading as last time I made inquires (and posed a similar question) there seemed to be a number of 95 available but alas I have not located any and I am sure that one day my 95 will be beyond repair and a replacement will in all probability be a 100/200. I have resisted changing to the 100/200 so far as with my eyesight (I'm in the THAT age group!) the higher resolution and graphics display of the 100/200 is of no real benefit i.e. 40 column text mode is just fine. The applications I run are all registered / paid for and would require further expense if I move to 100/200 i.e. Buddy. My data exchange program (ZIP ÝNOT PKZIP¨) works 100% with my desk PC as does Cheque-In (v1.5), ACT! and NOTEPAD (frequently used add on applications). I have a Drive95 and a 2400 Palm Modem although both are seldom used but I suspect that neither would be compatible (did Bob Penick problems get resolved I wonder?) with the 100/200. I use a couple of 128K (F1002A) ram cards for additional storage (main unit is 1 Mb) and have no real need for a large portable database. So, what arguments can be offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? Looking forward to some informative answers! All the best and thanks in advance. Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:47:17 -0400 Reply-To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: 128k SRAM to "good home" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:25:40 -0500 (EST) Hi All: I have a "brand new, in the box" 128K SRAM card HP p/n F1002A that is yours if you need it. Please contact me off-LIST. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:17:36 +0000 Reply-To: b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive95 on a 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob, Long ago I had a Drive 95 that I used on a 5 meg 100LX DS. There were some tricks in getting it to work. This is a little foggy but it might help. If you can get it to map a drive letter on boot up then go to Filer and ESC to the drive letters. Look for drive F or G (the last drive shown). With floppy in drive try to read that drive (F or G). Hopefully this will cause the drive to start and read the floppy. Then do a split screen and you should be able to transfer files to C: or A: =Bob= PS Have both connected to AC while trying this. > I picked one up off eBay and can't get it to work on my 200. I just get the > "drive not ready" error. I followed instructions from an old PTP that said > to open filer and press "remote" and then wait for it to time out. Then I > should be able to go to the drive letter and see files. But, of course, I > can't. The drive95.sys does initialize and map a drive letter when the unit > is attached at bootup. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:06:03 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: XT-CE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I'll be shopping at a computer flea market tomorrow (in St. Paul, MN, USA) in hopes of finding a good deal on an older win ce device. I want to experiment with xt-ce and pocket dos. I haven't done my homework yet so any suggestions and warnings for an older but not too old device would be appreciated, especially a suggested price range. This list has always amazed me with it's depth of knowledge and diverse computing platforms supported, all with the common thread of the mighty 200lx. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:18:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Have you looked on eBay for a used 95LX? You could get 4 or 5 of them at current prices for the cost of one 200LX. This cost factor, as well as your current familiarity with the 95LX and your software, seem to me to be the biggest reasons to stay with the 95LX. I have a 95LX, but it seems to me that the 200LX has three main advantages: (1) full CGA compatability; (2) newer PCMCIA slot, allowing use of PC card modems and Network cards, as well as flash and CF cards without the driver; and (3) the ability to get email and web browse, using software such as WWW/LX or Going Postal. I do not think I would go to the 100LX. If you are going to change, might as well go all the way. The 200LX can also hot sync PC cards, while the 100LX can't. As to the issue of screen character size, my personal feeling is that having more than 80 columns would be a definite advantage (I use WordPerfect and do some C programming). I am 50 and use bifocals, so I like the look of the 95's characters. I prefer them to the characters on the wider 80 column screen of a Poqet PQ181 that I also have. I understand, however, that the 200LX allows you to "zoom" up to 40x16, so character size might not be a big issue. Another issue might be battery life. Perhaps other people can comment on this. Regards, Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Nigel Rotherham Ýmailto:nigel@KEEPSMILING.CO.ZA¨ Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:04 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) there seemed to be a number of 95 available but alas I have not located any and I am sure that one day my 95 will be beyond repair and a replacement will in all probability be a 100/200. I have resisted changing to the 100/200 so far as with my eyesight (I'm in the THAT age group!) So, what arguments can be offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? Looking forward to some informative answers! All the best and thanks in advance. Nigel R ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:39:07 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dansedelux wrote: > I would like to know if there are > insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have never found one for any platform. My wife is diabetic and one would be very handy to have. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:08:06 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: MUP : Parisian Subway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you receive this message, it will proove that you can make cellular phone calls _between_ the "Gare de Lyon" and "Chatelet" stations of the= ultra-modern (all automatic) number 14 subway line. The tunnel is something like 30ft deep under the surface, but it seems that they managed phone relays all the way... Don't even thought it was possible two hours ago... :-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:32:43 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: > If you receive this message, it will proove that you can make cellular > phone calls _between_ the "Gare de Lyon" and "Chatelet" stations of the > ultra-modern (all automatic) number 14 subway line. The tunnel is > something like 30ft deep under the surface, but it seems that they > managed phone relays all the way... The MBTA in Massachussetts is doing the same thing to provide cell phone accesss. Maybe the theory is that if people are talking on their phone they won't be screeming about train delays. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:15:15 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway In-Reply-To: <3AE85BBB.81C7EE84@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:32:43 -0400 Ken London a =E9crit: > Maybe the theory is that if people are talking on > their phone they won't be screeming about train delays. Or, they will use their HP200LX + cell phone to hack the automatic subway system to get the train going faster .... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:43:06 -0400 Reply-To: GJColeman@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Coleman Subject: Re: Unix shell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Can anyone here recommend a good unix-like shell for the LX > (eg bash or cshell)? Thompson Toolkit is a complete shell, even vi, for DOS,OS2 or Windows. I've been using all 3 versions since they came out. I run the DOS version on my LX and the others on the desktop. http://www.teleport.com/~thompson -Geo. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:51:13 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive Comments: To: colin cohen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Colin, I've loaded DRIVE95.SYS that came with the drive. It recognizes that there is a drive on the cable and reserves a drive letter but I just get the"drive not ready" error when I try to read from a diskette. If there is a different driver needed for the 200 to read the drive, does anyone out there have a copy? I've tried going to the old Sparcom website but it's gone now and the phone has been disconnected. Thanks, bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin cohen" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: Sparcom Drive > You need a separate driver to get the 200lx to recognize the Sparcom. It > can be loaded through a .bat file or as a TSR. I am not sure where you can > find this driver but I will look around my software and see if I can lay my > hands on one. > > Colin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:55:13 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive95 on a 200lx Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Nigel, I was running both devices on their respective AC adaptors. I'm using a standard HP100/200 cable like I would use to connect to a PC. (Do I need to null modem in line with that cable maybe?) As for color of the light, I'm colorblind and will have to ask someone to watch and tell me which color is displaying and when. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Rotherham" To: "HPLX" ; "Bob Penick" Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:33 AM Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive95 on a 200lx > Greetings from sunny South Africa :-) > > I use a Drive95 on my 95LX and the only errors encountered would seem to be > related to the power supply when low voltage condition exists. Are you > running the drive AND 200LX on an AC adaptor? What is the status of the > tri-colour (English spelling ) LED? i.e. is there any data exchange? > Another query I would have is the connecting cable / interface as there is a > difference between the 95 and 100/200 serial ports (or so I have been led to > believe...). > > Hope the above is of some value. > > All the best > > Nigel R > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:30:38 -0700 Reply-To: Paul Ainsworth Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Ainsworth Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Chris Lott In-Reply-To: <200104251513.f3PFDr025474@mail.hiwaay.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Reminds me of the techniques I dug up in the manual for my pocket > "mechanical" computer (a Curta Type II) on extracting square roots. And that reminds me of a time back in Jr. High when a friend's dad, who was a former math teacher, taught us how to figure out square roots by hand. It was a method I would never have thought of, that doesn't use guess-and-check, but rather will find the exact square root if you continue doing it ad infinitum. If I can remember how to do it, that might be a fun program to write, though kinda useless since even the HP Calc can do square roots by taking a number to the power of 1/2. But I do wonder if it was the method used to originally make out square root tables. Paul Ainsworth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:46:48 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs Comments: To: dansedelux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Try to save the sheet in Excel but tell it to SAVE AS WK1. Then bring it over to the Palmtop and try it. dansedelux ably wrote: > Daniel--checked out your homepage. I would like to know if there are > insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have one > that works on EXCEL with the PC, but a Palm or HPLX app would be great for > my patients with pumps. > Paul > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:17:20 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: > Or, they will use their HP200LX + cell phone to hack the automatic subway > system to get the train going faster .... The subway systems here are not automatic....they run the old fashioned way, they have human beings driving them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:27:37 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: FLUFF: Test post please ignore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Testing, please ignore. Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:43:13 -0700 Reply-To: David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs Comments: To: dansedelux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a link to an excellent program that I've used on the 200LX for tracking my daily insulin levels. It is called the Diabetic Daily Log. If you need instructions on getting the program to run, let me know. ----- Original Message ----- From: dansedelux To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs > Daniel--checked out your homepage. I would like to know if there are > insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have one > that works on EXCEL with the PC, but a Palm or HPLX app would be great for > my patients with pumps. > Paul > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:46:31 -0700 Reply-To: David Ball Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Ball Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is an excellent program that runs on the 200LX for tracking your daily insulin levels. It is called The Diabetic Daily Log. The link to the author's home page is here: http://members.aol.com/kennzo/tddl.htm Search the archives for past messages I've posted about this program including instructions on getting it to run on the 200LX. ----- Original Message ----- From: dansedelux To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:04 AM Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs > Daniel--checked out your homepage. I would like to know if there are > insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have one > that works on EXCEL with the PC, but a Palm or HPLX app would be great for > my patients with pumps. > Paul > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:59:44 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham In-Reply-To: <000701c0ce51$8fd13820$615cef9b@new.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>So, what arguments can be >>offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? getting a standard serial port was all i needed to upgrade many years ago. i am sure if you love your 95 than you will kick yourself for not having upgraded earlier, the built in apps were greatly improved ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:20:38 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham In-Reply-To: <000701c0ce51$8fd13820$615cef9b@new.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit there are a couple of 95lx machines on ebay as I write. This one <> says "Buyer pays actual shipping charges, Seller ships internationally (worldwide), See item description for shipping charges" Patrick West pgp fingerprint > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Nigel Rotherham > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:04 AM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) > > > Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) > > My question has been asked before but circumstances are now very different > (as so far unable to find a replacement 95) so before making a move or > extending my search for a 95 thought the views of fellow > enthusiast could be > of value... > > --- My Outgoing mail has been virus checked and appears clean. However you should always be running your own anti virus program. I am using both Norton and AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:35:51 +0800 Reply-To: Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:24 AM 4/25/01 -0700, Longden Loo wrote: > >I have a clever little (3k) 123 spreadsheet someone in this group gave me >once. > >You enter a decimal number and it computes 5 different fractions, each with >increasing accuracy. So for example, entering "3.14" shows (for the first >two fractions): 22/7 (accuracy 0.002847..) and 157/50 (balls on). > >Making it more challenging, entering "3.1415926536" gets the fraction 22/7 >again (for the low end accuracy), and 104348/33215 for an accuracy of >0.0000000003). > >Let me know if anyone wants a copy. I think it was never posted to SUPER >because there's not a specific place for spreadsheets and it was so small >(but oooooh so useful on the LX). But if there's a place for it now in >SUPER, I'll post it there. I'd give credit to the author, but I can't >recall his name (sorry, if you're still on the list). > If you do a search for Lotus on the SUPER site, there are other useful spreadsheets there. Please consider placing it in SUPER. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:30:45 -0500 Reply-To: Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: OT: Need circuit help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know a simple circuit that can be used to change 9 Volt DC to 12 volts? I know I have seen schematics for DC/DC converter circuits but can't seem to find one now. Thanks for any help! Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:21:03 -0400 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Looking for Zondervan Bible Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I called Zondervan Software recently to order additional products, but they no longer sell any of the DOS products. I am looking for their: Bible Dictionary Dictionary of Bible Difficulties KJV Bible Thanks in advance for any help. Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:46:30 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >>So, what arguments can be > >>offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? > > getting a standard serial port was all i needed to upgrade many years ago. i > am sure if you love your 95 than you will kick yourself for not having > upgraded earlier, the built in apps were greatly improved I actually remember when you got it and raved about it. When some of the rest of us decided to jump, HP had put some lame limit on which dealers could sell to which areas of the country and wound up cancelling a bunch of our orders!!!!!!!! Then there was the serial cable problem - none were available for a while so no one could do backups!!!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:46:43 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive Comments: To: Bob Penick MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Thanks Colin, > I've loaded DRIVE95.SYS that came with the drive. It recognizes that there > is a drive on the cable and reserves a drive letter but I just get the"drive > not ready" error when I try to read from a diskette. If there is a > different driver needed for the 200 to read the drive, does anyone out there > have a copy? I've tried going to the old Sparcom website but it's gone now > and the phone has been disconnected. Just a thought - what size disk does it use? If 3.5 might it still be limited to the older smaller non-double (high??) density??? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:47:00 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > If you receive this message, it will proove that you can make cellular > phone calls _between_ the "Gare de Lyon" and "Chatelet" stations of the > ultra-modern (all automatic) number 14 subway line. The tunnel is Nice seeing a MUP again. They don't come very often anymore. I found mine the other day written on my first flight on a small private plane. It was fun re-reading it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:47:18 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) Greetings from sunny (at the moment) Seattle! (G) > all registered / paid for and would require further expense if I move to > 100/200 i.e. Buddy. My data exchange program (ZIP ÝNOT PKZIP¨) works 100% > with my desk PC as does Cheque-In (v1.5), ACT! and NOTEPAD (frequently used > add on applications). I have a Drive95 and a 2400 Palm Modem although both As Larry said, the improved PIMS are a big plus. Buddy would need to be upgraded - but maybe Jeff would offer a special deal these days - he probably is not selling many new licenses. Zip works on the 100/200 and the others program will also, although probably in what some of us recognize as this reduced image on the 100/200. 95 programs kind of run in a 1/4 of the screen but many can be zoomed back up. The 100/200 fully support 95 graphics and most programs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:07:29 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Paul Ainsworth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Larry Tachna wrote: >>> write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) >> >>So I wrote: >>>>I think you mean (17+(13/16))/2. >> >>Larry, you made the mistake of dividing by 1/2 instead of just dividing by >>2 to get half of something. Also, you put (13 / 16) * 17 instead of >>(13/16) + 17, but I assume that was just a typo. i am dividing 2 into 1 before using that to divide into the answer from the left side equation, look at the parns carefully, first 13/16 than add (you are correct about the typo) the 17 than divide 2 into 1 than divide that in the 17.8125 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:07:38 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net In-Reply-To: <20010427024624.YITC10048.mtiwmhc28.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I actually remember when you got it and raved about it. When some of >>the rest of us decided to jump, HP had put some lame limit on which >>dealers could sell to which areas of the country and wound up cancelling >>a bunch of our orders!!!!!!!! Then there was the serial cable problem - >>none were available for a while so no one could do backups!!!!!! i remember being in chicago and locating one in a store somewhere right after they came out i drove out there and the guy didnt even know he had one until i gave him the part number and made him look than i demoed it in the store to the salesguy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:18:45 -0500 Reply-To: lamaide@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John LaMaide Subject: Re: CF to PCMCIA adapter Comments: To: bbuzan@QUIK.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_381c.3240.163e This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_381c.3240.163e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you cannot find a CF adapter I have a bunch of them and will sell them for $10 plus shipping. And I also have 8 meg CF cards which I will sell for $20 with shipping of $4 per order. Anyone intrested may contact me at lamaide@juno.com Thanks, John N9PHX On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:06 -0700 "Bill B." writes: I see a lot of people are using the CF cards. I'm in Southern California, where is a good place to get a CF to PCMCIA adapter and about how much could I expect to pay? Thanks a bunch. Bill Buzan ----__JNP_000_381c.3240.163e Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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----__JNP_000_381c.3240.163e-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 01:01:35 -0400 Reply-To: Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Intellisync for $69 at www.unboxed.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Found this looking for something else. Is this worth getting? The price seems good. I'm in the habit of transferring all my data to the desktop and running the CPACK PIM applications there. Backing up instead of synching. Does this program work reliably? Is it simple to set up? Thanks. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:27:54 -0700 Reply-To: Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Intellisync for $69 at www.unboxed.com Comments: To: Andrew King In-Reply-To: <3AE8FD2F.E17057A9@mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I puchased a copy and could never get it to work under Windows 95a, 95B, 98, NT or 2000. Patrick West pgp fingerprint > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Andrew King > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 10:02 PM > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Intellisync for $69 at www.unboxed.com > > > Found this looking for something else. > Is this worth getting? The price seems good. > I'm in the habit of transferring all my data to the desktop and > running the CPACK PIM applications there. Backing up instead of > synching. > Does this program work reliably? > Is it simple to set up? > > Thanks. > -- > Andrew King > Ann Arbor Michigan > technology is the answer, what was the question? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > --- > Virus checked. Shows clean. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 > --- My Outgoing mail has been virus checked and appears clean. However you should always be running your own anti virus program. I am using both Norton and AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:50:44 -0700 Reply-To: Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: CF to PCMCIA adapter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, I have just purchased mine from www.egghead.com. I ordered Sunday night and received Tuesday morning (Southern California, USA). I paid $71.99 for 64 MBytes Sandisk CF, $8.19 for the adapter, $6.95 for shipping (for any number of items), and 6.41 for tax:( I thought these are good prices. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Biggers To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CF to PCMCIA adapter >> "Bill B." wrote: >> >> I see a lot of people are using the CF cards. I'm in Southern >> California, where is a good place to get a CF to PCMCIA adapter >> and about how much could I expect to pay? >> > >Don't pay much, they are worth about $10 or less. The adapter is >nothing but a physical mapping of the pins, there are no >electronics in it. If you are in the USA, I know that Office >Depot carries them for about $15 or less. Bryan > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:52:29 +0200 Reply-To: Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, >ultra-modern (all automatic) number 14 subway line. The tunnel is Do you mean the trains run without any human driver at the controls? Not that it is technically impossible, even the old obsolete soviet made trains here on M3 Budapest subway line can do it; but I wouldn't board such a train anyhow. I cannot imagine what made them decide to take the tremendous responsibility. Or on a less ethical, more fiscal viewpoint: a driver's wage a train wouldn't cost that much extra. But if it crashes automagically, lawsuits will send them bankrupt for sure. It's worse than Airbus 320. There is at least 2 crew oboard, who can, at most, pray, if the computer goes crazy and assumes command. Sincerely: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:36:45 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 02:47:00 +0000, "F. Kaufman" wrote: > Nice seeing a MUP again. They don't come very often anymore. I found > mine the other day written on my first flight on a small private plane. > It was fun re-reading it. I do know what a MUP _is_, so I can say this is no MUP, since I write it at home sitting at my desk. But what does the abbreviation MUP exactly mean? TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:14:26 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Accurite Doubleslot & IBM Microdrive? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello all, I think this has been addressed before, but will the new IBM Microdrive (1GB) work with the Accurite Doubleslot? How about a Type III PC Card harddrive? I'm looking for a way to expand storage on my LX by a gig or so for work, and I'm open to suggestions.. TIA! David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:20:27 -0400 Reply-To: Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Airport monorails are, I think, driverless - at least at the Newark Airport in New Jersey, IIRC. At least once, in NYC, there was an accident on the subway because the driver had "altered their reality" with booze/drugs... Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:52 AM Subject: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. > Hello, > > >ultra-modern (all automatic) number 14 subway line. The tunnel is > > Do you mean the trains run without any human driver at the controls? > Not that it is technically impossible, even the old obsolete soviet > made trains here on M3 Budapest subway line can do it; but I wouldn't > board such a train anyhow. I cannot imagine what made them decide to > take the tremendous responsibility. Or on a less ethical, more fiscal > viewpoint: a driver's wage a train wouldn't cost that much extra. But > if it crashes automagically, lawsuits will send them bankrupt for > sure. > > It's worse than Airbus 320. There is at least 2 crew oboard, who can, > at most, pray, if the computer goes crazy and assumes command. > > Sincerely: Tamas Feher. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 04:59:41 -0700 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: MUP and a new LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hiya everybodies MUP is Most Unusal Place? ...and if yu wannna a brand new LX almost) free, try joining a book klub. Dare I wuz, in a waiting room at da VA playing wit my LX while waiting for an ekg when da lady who gives it, komes over ta me and tells me (in small talk) that she has (a brand new, free) one too. Right away, I offers ta buy it thinking she'd rather have the money. She deklined but told me where she got it. It wuz an option at a book klub, the first woid wuz; GUIDE, book klub, which she said can be found in many magazines. If ya run into it, do post more info on it. If not, I'll go back and get more info. yor pal al................. ===== . o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_) Woman, that's warm... Semper Mobilus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:26:29 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In response to Daniel's question, MUP = most unusual place Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:04:10 -0500 Reply-To: Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Staff from a public relations firm obtained answers from 620 people they approached, at random, in highly trafficked areas. No margin of error was reported. One (somewhat) on topic finding: Men who own a Palm Pilot were four times as likely to forget their wives' birthdays, compared to men who don't. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:31:19 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 27-04 04:47 DST, you wrote: > Nice seeing a MUP again. They don't come very often anymore. Glad it pleased to you :-) As my HP200+GSM setup is now fully focntionnal, I think I can promise you some _very weird_ places or very hot situations to post messages...= (hint for French reading people : search form my name on the france.indymedia.org site. You should find messages or references of some messages I posted last months with my HP...) BTW, is Linda Worthington always active ? I searched in Compuserve abou= t her MUPs list and found only the 1996 MUPs file :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: 3com Ethernet Card: Comments: To: Martin Crundall MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I received this note from an HP 200LX user. Martin, I am posting your question on the HP 200LX mail list (you can sign up at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml) if interested. I'll see if anyone has tested the card. -----Original Message----- From: Martin Crundall Ýmailto:ac6rm@hotmail.com¨ Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:10 AM To: Hal Goldstein Subject: 3com Ethernet Card: Hi Hal; Say, I was wandering around your site and palmtop.net reminiscing over how my handspring just ain't the same as my 200 and how I'm going to resurrect it here coming up pretty quick, and I came across some info on your site about ethernet cards available for the 200. Then I went searching for low power ethernet cards and found this one: 3com's 3CCE589EC http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=139933 I put the CDW link in because, on that page, they claim a skimpy 26 ma draw from the card. So I was wondering if you know anyone who's made this card work in their 200. Anyway, good to be back with my 200. Kind regards, Martin Crundall _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:28:00 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore Heise wrote: > Staff from a public relations firm obtained answers from 620 > people they approached, at random, in highly trafficked areas. > No margin of error was reported. One (somewhat) on topic finding: > > Men who own a Palm Pilot were four times as likely to forget their > wives' birthdays, compared to men who don't. > Would they have forgotten whether they had a palm or not? Were they deliberately trying to forget? Maybe a better question would have been to ask about the date of the next playoff game. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:24:16 -0600 Reply-To: "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: 3com Ethernet Card: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 3Com also makes a Type II CF+ network card, the 3C1, that uses only 13mA. It's made for WinCE systems. Does anyone know if it would work in the HP, or does it require Windows CPU support, like a Winmodem? I found reference to it and specs at http://www.3com.es/products/datasheets/tarjetas_megahertz.pdf. Robert A. Feldman Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:39:57 -0500 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Accton Ethernet Card Source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few months back, there was a message about a place to buy refurbished Accton ethernet cards. At that time, I purchase two of them as spares. Recently, a co-worker was interested in getting some of these, un-related to palmtopping. I looked, and cannot figure out where this place was. I remember it was an online purchase, but that's about all. Can anyone remember the place which had these for sale, or recommend another place? -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:06:26 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. Comments: To: Feher Tamas In-Reply-To: <001e01c0ceef$02bf7020$162fa8c0@2fkft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Do you mean the trains run without any human driver at the controls? I don't know about that train but certainly there are many airports in the usa that use automated trams, I recall being in atlanta airport and watching the tram stop the doors didn't open (people on the tram of course) and it left again, ten seconds later the repair guys came running down the hall after it. I was rolling on the ground laughing ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:06:35 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most Unusual Place ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:42:01 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nigel Rotherham wrote: > So, what arguments can be offered for moving > to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? I moved from the 95 to the 100. I still have both of my 95's and I still use them, although it's more for playing now, since I'm retired. There is a Buddy for the 100 but the 100 already has quite a few of the improvements that you get from Buddy95. Not nearly all and maybe not the ones you like. But I'm sure that HP got a lot of their ideas from Buddy. You can still use the 100lx in 40 column mode. It's not quite as readible as the 95lx but almost. There isn't a lot of difference and you can change fonts to improve it and possibly make it better than the 95lx. It still has the 95lx graphics mode for compatibily reasons, although that doesn't use the whole screen. Still, most of the 95lx programs were text mode so that's not much problem. I don't remember anything I used in the 95lx that I couldn't move to the 100lx. But it's been a long time and I might have forgotten something. I wasn't a Buddy user on either computers. I tried it out but I found it too confusing. The 95 does have a more sensible keyboard arrangement. I don't really know why they made some of the changes they did in the 100. After all these years I'm still griping about the 100/200 keyboard. Maybe because I still use the 95. The built-in apps on the 100 are a lot more powerful. They're disk based so you don't lose everything if you forget to save. The 100 is quite a lot more stable than the 95. It doesn't crash as much and you don't lose much when it does crash. I no longer need either machine. I keep them and use them as toys. And as toys, the 95lx is the better machine. If I could only keep one I'm not sure what I'd do but the 95lx would get serious consideration. One "problem" you'll run into is that you can run so many more things on the 100 that you might find yourself needing a larger card. I went from a 2 meg sram to a 10 meg flash. On the 95 2 meg was more than enough. I got by happily for a long time with a 512k card. On the 100 10 meg wasn't enough. Zip works fine on the 100/200lx. I don't use it much since I got a card reader on my PC but I did use it for a long time with no problems. I've never used ACT! so I can't comment on that. If Notepad is the replacement for the internal notepad that I remember, it should run on the 100lx, although I'm not really sure. The 100lx notepad is a significant improvement over the 95lx so you might find that adequate now. What arguments are there for moving? The 100lx is more powerful and easier to use and more compatible so there's a world of software you can use with it. But if you don't care about any of that I think the 95lx is the more elegant design. I guess the biggest argument for the 100lx is that the batteries last about twice as long. Or maybe more. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:22:39 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: MUP : Parisian Subway Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > BTW, is Linda Worthington always active ? I searched in Compuserve about > her MUPs list and found only the 1996 MUPs file :-( Like many HPHAND participants, she has cut back dramatically. Only an occasional word. I "spoke" with her just a few weeks ago about web page publishing. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:22:51 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I do know what a MUP _is_, so I can say this is no MUP, since I write > it at home sitting at my desk. > But what does the abbreviation MUP exactly mean? As Ted said a message written (and sometimes sent) from a M-ost U-nusual P-lace. It originated on HPHAND on CIS. We had all kinds of I believe Linda Worthington published a poem-compilation of a number of them in the Palmtop Paper. They were written from an airforce jet, eifel tower, africa, Ireland, submarine, ferry boats, and I wrote one from Boot Hill Cemetery in Tombstone Arizona just a year or two ago. At one time, small portable computers were rarer than they are now and so that using these things and writing messages in all kinds of unusual places was MOST UNusual. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 19:43:55 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: FS: S35 <-> HPLX data cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I still have one data cable for sale which connects the palmtop with a Siemens mobile phone (S25, S35i or C35i). For detailled specifications of that cable see http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx The cable costs 60 Euro. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:28:32 +0100 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry, You are still not out of the wood :)) If you divide two into one you get 0.5, and if you divide the left-hand side by 0.5 you get 35.625, not 8.9063 which is correct. Richard Larry Tachna wrote: > >>On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Larry Tachna wrote: > >>> write something in solver? ((13 / 16) * 17) / (1 / 2) > >> > >>So I wrote: > >>>>I think you mean (17+(13/16))/2. > >> > >>Larry, you made the mistake of dividing by 1/2 instead of just dividing by > >>2 to get half of something. Also, you put (13 / 16) * 17 instead of > >>(13/16) + 17, but I assume that was just a typo. > > i am dividing 2 into 1 before using that to divide into the answer from the > left side equation, look at the parns carefully, first 13/16 than add (you > are correct about the typo) the 17 than divide 2 into 1 than divide that in > the 17.8125 > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:02:32 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Accton Ethernet Card Source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:39:57 -0500, Chris Lott wrote: > A few months back, there was a message about a place to buy refurbished > Accton ethernet cards. At that time, I purchase two of them as spares. > Recently, a co-worker was interested in getting some of these, un-related > to palmtopping. I looked, and cannot figure out where this place was. > I remember it was an online purchase, but that's about all. > > Can anyone remember the place which had these for sale, or recommend > another place? It was http://www.gocomputershop.com I bought two Accton from him and paid with Paypal in advance. No problem. Cards worked out of the box in my Hplx. I have not checked the versionnumber on the cards. One listmember asked me this in private mail, but I have not gotten around to check it yet sorry.. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:51:34 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? In-Reply-To: <20010427172245.RZTB2578.mtiwmhc26.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:22:51 +0000 "F. Kaufman" a =E9crit: > At one time, small portable computers were rarer than they are now and > so that using these things and writing messages in all kinds of unusual > places was MOST UNusual. Yes. At this time the fun was to _write_ messages on MUPs. Even if you had to send them later.=20 Now, with the cellular phone technology, we have an excuse to make revive the game ! :-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:51:35 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. In-Reply-To: <001e01c0ceef$02bf7020$162fa8c0@2fkft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:52:29 +0200 Feher Tamas a =E9crit: > Do you mean the trains run without any human driver at the controls? Yes. All is automatic. But it seems that it is well conceived as I never heard about any accident during the two years the line is open. And even if they have removed the driver, this line is the one which have the greatest numbers of agents on quays and trains. And there is of course a great numbers of video cameras. Even inside the trains ! > Or on a less ethical, more fiscal > viewpoint: a driver's wage a train wouldn't cost that much extra.=20 Yes. But a driver costs money, asks always for more money, and sometimes, can strikes (as the next few days, BTW). And guess which line is never closed when there is a strike ? =20 Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:51:37 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: Underground railway in full-automatic. In-Reply-To: <002001c0cf03$ae77c430$0201a8c0@double333> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 27 Apr 2001 06:20:27 -0400 Ken Hansen a =E9crit: > Airport monorails are, I think, driverless - at least at the Newark Air= port > in New Jersey, IIRC. And in France, there are several cities which have automatic subways : Lyon, Lille if I remember... And that several years before Paris... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:51:38 +0200 Reply-To: Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: OT: Need circuit help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:30:45 -0500 Jeff a =E9crit: > Does anyone know a simple circuit that can be used to change 9 Volt DC = to > 12 volts? I know I have seen schematics for DC/DC converter circuits bu= t > can't seem to find one now. Thanks for any help! For this kind of circuits (axpensive and hard to find in stores), you can allways go on the integrated circuits makers sites (http://www.maxim-ic.com, for example), select your component and ask for a free sample for evaluation.=20 I can confirm you that Maxim send free samples. Even to France ! :-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:54:59 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: Paul Ainsworth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Larry, enter ((13/16) + 17) / (1/2) into your solver and tell me >>what you get. so you want scrambled fried or what? i get a big egg when i enter that into solver. lot nerve that solvers got! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:55:10 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: decimal to fractions converter Comments: To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie In-Reply-To: <3AE9C85F.7E1AB8C2@gofree.indigo.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>You are still not out of the wood :)) out of the woods?!? i am digging a giant hole in the middle of the woods! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:11:00 +0000 Reply-To: mikeschn@ameritech.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available Comments: To: Ed Padin ----Original Message----- >From: Ed Padin >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: DOS emulator for TRGpro/Palm available >Reply-To: Ed Padin >Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:59 AM > > That's one positive thing you >can say about the WinCE devices. They have enough horsepower to emulate an >80186 and run any OS you want that will run on that chip. (XT-CE). > > I've never tried XT-CE, but pocket DOS runs reasonably fast on the 720. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:50:32 +0000 Reply-To: Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: survey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Theodore Heise wrote: > Men who own a Palm Pilot were four times as likely to forget their > wives' birthdays, compared to men who don't. Maybe it has something to do with the Palm. I believe, among my family and friends, I'm known as someone that remembers everyone's birthday (mainly because my LX reminds me in time to send a greeting or call). I also don't have a wife to forget about. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:41:30 -0700 Reply-To: David Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My favorite feature on the 200lx is the ability to do a text search, such as a hidden phone number or password, from the filer screen. Then hit Enter and see the file! Also, my 95 locked up a whole lot more than my 200lx Nigel Rotherham wrote: > Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) > > My question has been asked before but circumstances are now very different > (as so far unable to find a replacement 95) so before making a move or > extending my search for a 95 thought the views of fellow enthusiast could be > of value... > > I have been using my HP95LX for more than 6 years and regard it as a > mainstay of my computing needs (I am a self employed). Sure I use a desk > machine but my 95 is a much used tool that I would seriously miss. My > current concern relates to upgrading as last time I made inquires (and posed > a similar question) there seemed to be a number of 95 available but alas I > have not located any and I am sure that one day my 95 will be beyond repair > and a replacement will in all probability be a 100/200. I have resisted > changing to the 100/200 so far as with my eyesight (I'm in the THAT age > group!) the higher resolution and graphics display of the 100/200 is of no > real benefit i.e. 40 column text mode is just fine. The applications I run > are > all registered / paid for and would require further expense if I move to > 100/200 i.e. Buddy. My data exchange program (ZIP ÝNOT PKZIP¨) works 100% > with my desk PC as does Cheque-In (v1.5), ACT! and NOTEPAD (frequently used > add on applications). I have a Drive95 and a 2400 Palm Modem although both > are seldom used but I suspect that neither would be compatible (did Bob > Penick problems get resolved I wonder?) with the 100/200. I use a couple of > 128K (F1002A) ram cards for additional storage (main unit is 1 Mb) and have > no real need for a large portable database. So, what arguments can be > offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? > > Looking forward to some informative answers! > > All the best and thanks in advance. > > Nigel R > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:00:29 -0400 Reply-To: Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Re: Sparcom Drive Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, the instruction booklet mentions being able to use 1.44 and 720 formats (but will not use 360 on a 3.5 diskette). Thanks for trying but I don't think we've hit on the problem yet. I may have just picked up a loser. It looks brand new in the box with all the bits so I was hoping. I can look into the case through an access hole and the internal drive looks like a standard 3.5 floppy drive. If I could only figure out how to open the case I'd try and replace the drive unit with a known good one. Thanks again, bob ----- Original Message ----- From: > > Just a thought - what size disk does it use? If 3.5 might it still be > limited to the older smaller non-double (high??) density??? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:29:43 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: The MUP Ode Part 1 of 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit F. Kaufman ably wrote: > It originated on HPHAND on CIS. We had all kinds of I believe Linda > Worthington published a poem-compilation of a number of them in the > Palmtop Paper. They were written from an airforce jet, eifel tower, > africa, Ireland, submarine, ferry boats, and I wrote one from Boot Hill > Cemetery in Tombstone Arizona just a year or two ago. Here is part 1 (or 2) the Ode from 1995 written by Linda Worthington - published in Palmtop Paper: (The names mentionedn not mentioned, are part of the history of the 200LX) Ode to the Palmtoppers Give me a moment, I'll tell you a tale Of the Palmtoppers' travels, relayed by E-mail; By plane, train and subway, by balloon and by cars They sink to the depths and they shoot for the stars, While some, more conservative, write from a chair, But being Palmtoppers, you never know where! Since they all were so willing to be in my file Of Unusual Places, let's read for a while: Avi goes walking in sunshine and rain To exercise legs and both sides of his brain; He reads and he writes as he walks through the night; He never has fallen, but I think he might! One morning he wrote me from his Barber's chair, A note to say someone was cutting his hair; He also informed me, by postscript, quite soon, That he once sent a note from a hot-air balloon; I did not see that with my very own eyes, But if it were Fred, it would be no surprise, For he often has written from Mountains, and I Do believe that he was on both Granite and Si. I also suspect, since he says he was there, That he really did breath in Mt. Dickerson's air; From a park on the waterfront came a nice note, And from Tom Robbins country, and one Ferry Boat! One day, from above, in the far Friendly Skies Came a message from Gary, who after some tries, Had connected to CompuServe on an Airfone And so far that honor is his, all alone. Speaking of honors, we have to count Gilles As a winner for numbers of Palmtopping miles: He has traveled both coasts in our country you see, And his messages come both by land and by sea: From a Whale watching Boat near Vancouver, West Coast And from Prince Edward's Light, on the "other", Best Coast! He travels so fast and he travels so far That I think he has seats on his own shooting star! Now Gilles is back home, and I'm sure he'll stay busy; But Andreas must be Clark Kent; why else is he Out there in a phone booth? And what's this we see?... The booth's on a mountaintop, in Italy! But if he's Clark Kent, he is Superman, too; Just look at this message! He swears it is true That he practiced telepathy, for, as he said, It came straight to us from the "top of my head"! From Italy, also, Jeff sent us a word From a Ferry Boat, (possibly carried by bird); I hear that another boat held Tony, too, I heard it from Daniel; I'm sure it is true. To my horror I see that while Dara is driving He reads and he writes, and though he's still surviving, I think that he'd better beware of such mail, Lest we next get a note from a Florida jail! Now we look to the distance, where Daniel resides: In France, in a fine ancient cottage he hides, But he writes to his friends, the whole bunch of us, From there, and from Paris, one time, on a Bus! Now away to New Jersey, lets visit with Stan If you want true variety, he is your man! I heard from the deck of a New York bound Ferry, On the way to a Roundtable; nervous? Yes, very! (Continued in a separate post) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:29:45 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: The MUP Ode Part 2 of 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Part 2 of 2 Ode to the Palmtoppers Now away to New Jersey, lets visit with Stan If you want true variety, he is your man! I heard from the deck of a New York bound Ferry, On the way to a Roundtable; nervous? Yes, very! The next little bon mot was sent from the table At Expo; I do not know how he was able To write while he answered those questions, and told All the folks how LX's are better than gold! If you thought that was clever, just wait, there is more: He writes from the beach on the New Jersey shore, And to prove my main point, that this fellow's a wag, He is writing, he says, through a small plastic bag! He claims that his kids like to bury him deep In the sand, where he peacefully falls off to sleep, But my favorite of all is way that he tries, With the kids, to catch bottles of bright fireflies! He also has mailed us a message from Trevose, Which he says is in Penna, but who knows if he knows? To tell you the truth, if he wrote us from Boise, It'd be less exotic than notes from New Joise! Now here is the Palmtoppers' own Underground, Where two of our friends, Steve and Tim, can be found; Steve is in Manhattan, commuting, says he; And Tim is in Hong Kong, and writing to me! "From the air over Russia": this must be a fad, For two different notes from a plane I have had: One written by Karim, the other from Drew, Both mailed from the ground, but I think they will do! And here is a wonderful bit of good news: The new little daughter at Susan and Drew's; From China, she flew to her new Denver home No doubt she'll send E-mail when she starts to roam! In case you have wondered who's writing this poem, I'm Linda; I'm sending this from our log home In the mountains of Maryland. This has been fun! I want to say thanks now to you, every one. If you find any errors, just blame them on my sense Of freedom, expressed with a Poetic License; If this does not please you, that's fine and O.K., Just write your own poem and send it our way! And if you need proof that these notes do exist, Just drop me a line and I'll mail you my list; If you send me some more, I will add them next time: Just be sure that you want to appear in a rhyme! Linda Worthington 10/11/95 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:26:12 -0700 Reply-To: Jim Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Lee Subject: Stacker Question In-Reply-To: <200104260408.f3Q48si03049@carthage.proaxis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I think this problem has come up before on the list, but I can't seem to find reference to it in the archives. I've just installed Stacker on my Flash card in a 200LX. The line added to config.sys reads "device=c:\stacker\stacker.sys a:\stacvol.dsk". I reboot, and all works well. Stacker mounts the compressed volume as drive a: and I can access it's contents. But power off and then on again, and drive a: is now unstacked! I have to ctrl-alt-del reboot to remount it again. I can take out the device driver, reboot, go to DOS and type "stacker a:", and that also mounts the compressed volume. Plus it *stays* compressed if I power off/on again. Problem is, this can't be done in autoexec since it spawns a new command shell, so it must be typed manually every time the 'LX is rebooted. Is there a way to get the device driver to work correctly? I have tried this with Stacker 3.0, 3.1, and 4.0 with similar results... Thanks, Jim Lee ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:21:09 +1000 Reply-To: Tim Pitman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Pitman Subject: Re: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) Comments: To: Nigel Rotherham MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One of the best things that I found when changing to the 100lx from a 95lx is that it does not produce "ram disk corrupt" after restarting using ctrl + shift + on. I believe that this reason alone (greater reliability of data storage) makes the 100/200lx preferable, and I also think the battery life of the x00lx is better, in spite of its faster processor. Tim Pitman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Rotherham" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: 95 vs 100/200 (to upgrade or not) > Greetings to all from sunny South Africa :-) > > My question has been asked before but circumstances are now very different > (as so far unable to find a replacement 95) so before making a move or > extending my search for a 95 thought the views of fellow enthusiast could be > of value... > > I have been using my HP95LX for more than 6 years and regard it as a > mainstay of my computing needs (I am a self employed). Sure I use a desk > machine but my 95 is a much used tool that I would seriously miss. My > current concern relates to upgrading as last time I made inquires (and posed > a similar question) there seemed to be a number of 95 available but alas I > have not located any and I am sure that one day my 95 will be beyond repair > and a replacement will in all probability be a 100/200. I have resisted > changing to the 100/200 so far as with my eyesight (I'm in the THAT age > group!) the higher resolution and graphics display of the 100/200 is of no > real benefit i.e. 40 column text mode is just fine. The applications I run > are > all registered / paid for and would require further expense if I move to > 100/200 i.e. Buddy. My data exchange program (ZIP ÝNOT PKZIP¨) works 100% > with my desk PC as does Cheque-In (v1.5), ACT! and NOTEPAD (frequently used > add on applications). I have a Drive95 and a 2400 Palm Modem although both > are seldom used but I suspect that neither would be compatible (did Bob > Penick problems get resolved I wonder?) with the 100/200. I use a couple of > 128K (F1002A) ram cards for additional storage (main unit is 1 Mb) and have > no real need for a large portable database. So, what arguments can be > offered for moving to the 100/200 OR for staying with the 95? > > Looking forward to some informative answers! > > All the best and thanks in advance. > > Nigel R > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:37:16 +0200 Reply-To: Michael Berrier Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: survey Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit it won't happen to those who owned a 200LX !! regards, Michael B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Theodore Heise To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 3:04 PM Subject: survey > Staff from a public relations firm obtained answers from 620 > people they approached, at random, in highly trafficked areas. > No margin of error was reported. One (somewhat) on topic finding: > > Men who own a Palm Pilot were four times as likely to forget their > wives' birthdays, compared to men who don't. > > Ted > > -- > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 06:41:14 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: 2 gb Jaz Disk For Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're looking for a bargain on a new Jaz disk, click below. Thanks! http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:16:03 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: 2 gb Jaz Disk For Sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Salwasser wrote:
If you're looking for a bargain on a new Jaz disk, click below. Thanks!

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItemsLinkBUttons&userid=tomsalwasser

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Noticed this blurb on this lisitng:

"FREE SHIPPING! If the winning bid is at least $50 AND you pay with a
POSTAL MONEY ORDER (available at any US Post Office), I will pay the
packaging, postage and insurance for you. This does not apply to any other
type of money order. It must be a Postal Money Order."

Why not for any other  money order?  Does this person get a commission
on postal service money orders?

Word to the wise: if you do purchase, look it over carefully.  Zip disks and
jaz disks do go bad (bad sectors) and then there is the "click of death."

Might be a good idea to visit Gibson's website for zip and jaz utilities.
http://www.grc.com
  ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:15:54 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Accton 2216 or 2212 and Win95 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, I know that this question actually doesn't belong here, but since here on this list are probably more Accton Ethernet card users than elsewhere, I think I should ask here first: I have an Accton 2216-1 and a 2212. And I have an HP Omnibook 800CT. I run the OB with Linux and with Windows 98 (also tried 95 first). Under Linux it is no problem getting the accton card to work: Just load the PCMCIa driver and the network card is recognized when inserted. But everytime I insert the card running Windows 95 or 98, it asks me for drivers. On the Windows CD there don't seem to be drivers for the card, and on the accton web sites I couldn't find drivers, too. Could anyone pleae give me advice here? TNX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:31:30 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom wrote: FREE SHIPPING! If the winning bid is at least $50 AND you pay with a POSTAL MONEY ORDER (available at any US Post Office), I will pay the packaging, postage and insurance for you. This does not apply to any other type of money order. It must be a Postal Money Order." Ken wrote: Why not for any other money order? Does this person get a commission on postal service money orders? Ken, I like Postal money orders because I can cash them at my local Post Office. Also, there are a many bogus money orders out there but I know a Postal money order is good. I cash your money order and mail your goods all at once and save a trip. It's worth it for me to give the discount. I haven't entered the world of online payments yet, such as PayPal, etc. Thanks for asking! Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:12:41 +0200 Reply-To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: What if ... Comments: To: Bulent Bicioglu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Saturday, 21.04.2001 at 10:05 GMT, Bulent Bicioglu wrote: > For those who keep themselves up to date at PDA > market, I have a question: What would be the `second` > best choice of PDA (palm...whatever you call it)in > today`s market? We all know the 1st choice :) I am > especially interested in answers of heavy palmtop users. For my calendar (synchronized with Lotus Notes), ToDo list, address book, most databases, currency converter, shopping list, and some other stuff I'm now using a Palm Pilot Vx. Great if you're using it the way it is designed: as a PC companion. It's no good as a stand-alone machine. Some large text files (the Palm's notebook only allows 4 KB in one notebook entry) and my spreadsheets are still on the LX. I bought a spreadsheet for the Palm but it is too slow for the kink of spreadsheets I'm using. Want something like AvantGo on the HP 200 LX? Forget it. Ulrich Boche IT Security Technical Consultant IBM eServer Sales Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security) Am Keltenwald 1, 71139 Ehningen, Germany Phone: +49-7034/15-2716, Mobile-GSM: +49-171/5533450 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:37:06 +0200 Reply-To: h_e_guenther@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: FS: S35 <-> HPLX data cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, I use one of these cables with great pleasure. The weight of the cable is only 14 gr and fits in any pocket. I get all my emails on the road while driving to the customer. Very helpful. Kind regards Helmuth > I still have one data cable for sale which connects the palmtop with a > Siemens mobile phone (S25, S35i or C35i). > > For detailled specifications of that cable see > > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/s25_hplx > > The cable costs 60 Euro. > > GTX > daniel > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:02:53 -0400 Reply-To: Jim Saklad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Saklad Subject: Re: Accurite Doubleslot & IBM Microdrive? Comments: To: David In-Reply-To: <200104271014.DAA26242@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >I think this has been addressed before, but will the new IBM >Microdrive (1GB) work with the Accurite Doubleslot? How about a Type >III PC Card harddrive? I'm looking for a way to expand storage on my >LX by a gig or so for work, and I'm open to suggestions.. I have a Doubleslot and a 520 MB Type III drive that works perfectly well in the 200 LX via the Doubleslot. -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:30:15 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Accton 2216 or 2212 and Win95 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:15:54 +0200, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Hi friends, > > I know that this question actually doesn't belong here, but since here > on this list are probably more Accton Ethernet card users than > elsewhere, I think I should ask here first: > > I have an Accton 2216-1 I have two 2216-1 and one 2216-2 card. > and a 2212. And I have an HP Omnibook 800CT. > I run the OB with Linux and with Windows 98 (also tried 95 first). > Under Linux it is no problem getting the accton card to work: Just load > the PCMCIa driver and the network card is recognized when inserted. > But everytime I insert the card running Windows 95 or 98, it asks me > for drivers. On the Windows CD there don't seem to be drivers for the > card, and on the accton web sites I couldn't find drivers, too. > > Could anyone pleae give me advice here? I can not remember if I got a disc with drivers when I bought the -2 card. I know I did not get any when I bought the two -1 cards. I just inserted them in my laptop (Dell Latitude xpi with W98SE) and it just worked. I can have a look around here and see if I can find any discs with Accton on them, but I do not think that I will find anything. Sorry to no be of any more help, but it seems strange to me that you can not get W98 to reconise your card. Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:38:36 -0600 Reply-To: "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Battery Life with 200LX Off ?? Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Campmor and other places sell AA solar chargers. http://www.campmor.com/ Bob Russel Brooks wrote: > > I have couple of backup LXs; they have batteries in them but > I've also kept them on the AC supply. To do my part during > California's power crisis I'm trying to shut down everything > that doesn't need to be on; example is the AC supply for those > backup LXs. > > With only alkaline batteries in them, but remaining Off, how > long will the batteries last? I guess I could also stop SysMgr > to keep it from looking for appointments. Also, there won't be > any pcmcia cards in them. > > Any estimates on battery life? > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 20:05:16 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Salwasser wrote: > Ken, I like Postal money orders because I can cash them at my > local Post Office. Money orders are like cash....you can cash them anywhere. > Also, there are a many bogus money orders out > there but I know a Postal money order is good. I cash your money > order and mail your goods all at once and save a trip. And there are more bogus money orders from the post office then elesewhere. There is more chance of getting a bogus post office money order than if you got a treasurers check from the bank. The bank can trace the treasurers check, the post office has had a terrible record in tracing their money orders. When it comes to money oders, i would trust the post office last. There have been many news reports of money orders being stolen from the post office. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:48:17 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It would be good if you read what he wrote. KenLondon ably wrote: > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > > Ken, I like Postal money orders because I can cash them at my > > local Post Office. > > Money orders are like cash....you can cash them anywhere. Yes, but postal MOs he cashes right at the same post office where he is sending the stuff to you. > > Also, there are a many bogus money orders out > > there but I know a Postal money order is good. I cash your money > > order and mail your goods all at once and save a trip. > > And there are more bogus money orders from the post office then > elesewhere. There is more chance of getting a bogus post office > money order than if you got a treasurers check from the bank. > The bank can trace the treasurers check, the post office has had > a terrible record in tracing their money orders. And if it is bogus, he does not get the MO cashed, and does not send the goods! Makes _his_ life easier. > When it comes to money oders, i would trust the post office last. > There have been many news reports of money orders being stolen > from the post office. But he only makes one trip to find out it is good, and send the goods, or find out it is bad and NOT send the goods. Besides, why are you arguing with him? he was clearly stated _his_ choice, explained his conditions of sale. Why do you attack him like this? You seem to have a knack for attacking people here. I wish you just stopped doing this. If you do not like to buy his Jaz drive, please don't, but why do you have to bite into him? You chased at least one person away from here with this tactics. Enough, please. Joe _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 00:10:31 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote: > Besides, why are you arguing with him? Because his "policy" makes no sense, a bank check would be much safer to use. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:13:41 -0700 Reply-To: Jim Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Lee Subject: Re: Stacker Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After messing around with this for awhile longer, I answered my own question. At least with Stacker 4.0, adding the option /AUTO to STACKER.INI solved the problem. Apparently, since drive A: is a removable drive, Stacker unmounts it when the LX suspends (powers down) in anticipation of the user swapping in another disk (or Flash card). The /AUTO option causes Stacker to automatically scan for and (re)mount stacked volumes when the LX powers up again, but it's not the default setting. Anyway, problem solved - now I'm a happy camper again... Jim -----Original Message----- From: Jim Lee Ýmailto:jlee@PROAXIS.COM¨ Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 9:26 PM Subject: Stacker Question Hi All, I think this problem has come up before on the list, but I can't seem to find reference to it in the archives. I've just installed Stacker on my Flash card in a 200LX. The line added to config.sys reads "device=c:\stacker\stacker.sys a:\stacvol.dsk". I reboot, and all works well. Stacker mounts the compressed volume as drive a: and I can access it's contents. But power off and then on again, and drive a: is now unstacked! I have to ctrl-alt-del reboot to remount it again. I can take out the device driver, reboot, go to DOS and type "stacker a:", and that also mounts the compressed volume. Plus it *stays* compressed if I power off/on again. Problem is, this can't be done in autoexec since it spawns a new command shell, so it must be typed manually every time the 'LX is rebooted. Is there a way to get the device driver to work correctly? I have tried this with Stacker 3.0, 3.1, and 4.0 with similar results... Thanks, Jim Lee ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:11:11 -0400 Reply-To: KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KenLondon wrote: > hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Besides, why are you arguing with him? > My understanding is that this type of discrimiination based on payment type is illegal in some states. I've heard of instances where businesses have been nailed for this type of practice, especially some local stores. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 05:51:22 +0000 Reply-To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: The MUP Ode Part 2 of 2 Comments: To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Linda Worthington > 10/11/95 We "know" each other a long time - us palmtoppers, that is. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 05:33:03 -0500 Reply-To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe, thanks for expressing so well this rather odd exchange with Ken: "It would be good if you read what he wrote." I see Ken as the HPLX village idiot or town drunk, our own court jester, a lovable buffoon tolerated for his comedic antics. Surely this guy is acting! Best Regrads, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 10:03:11 -0400 Reply-To: Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <000901c0d097$c6f29680$0786c0d8@tvs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I see Ken as the HPLX village idiot or town drunk, our own court >>jester, a lovable buffoon tolerated for his comedic antics. gee and I thought after my great math equation I would get that honor ps should have been ((17 + (13 / 16)) * (1 / 2) forgot to change the sign you think I would let it alone wouldn't ya ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:13:42 -0400 Reply-To: Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Salwasser wrote: > I see Ken as the HPLX village idiot or town drunk, our own court > jester, a lovable buffoon tolerated for his comedic antics. > Surely this guy is acting! I was merely pointing out that dozens of stores have been nailed by the state of Massachusetts for doing the same thing that this guy on E-bay is doing. Why am I being nailed for this? I didn't make the laws..... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:24:06 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon ably wrote: > hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote: > > > Besides, why are you arguing with him? > > Because his "policy" makes no sense, a bank check > would be much safer to use. Get a life, Ken, please! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:24:08 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon ably wrote: > KenLondon wrote: > > > hplxmail@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > Besides, why are you arguing with him? > > > > My understanding is that this type of > discrimiination based on payment type > is illegal in some states. I've heard of > instances where businesses have been > nailed for this type of practice, especially > some local stores. Try getting even half a life, Ken! Please! And with other half, sue Tom! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:24:10 -0400 Reply-To: hplxmail@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joe H. Smith" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Jaz Disks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London ably wrote: > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > > I see Ken as the HPLX village idiot or town drunk, our own court > > jester, a lovable buffoon tolerated for his comedic antics. > > Surely this guy is acting! > > I was merely pointing out that dozens of stores have been > nailed by the state of Massachusetts for doing the same thing > that this guy on E-bay is doing. Then sue him already! Just stop harrassing Tom. It is what _he_ wants to do, period. Get off his back, you are not his monkey. > Why am I being nailed for this? I didn't make the laws..... Because you bite in like a dog and simply won't let go in your righteousness. As I said in the first post: Please get a life somewhere. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:47:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Subject: Converting PocketQuicken to Quicken4DOS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed OK, so I just inherited a copy of Quicken 8 for DOS. I've got about three years of data saved in my 200LX's PocketQuicken. I want to do a one-time conversion from the PocketQuicken to the desktop Quicken. By "one-time" I mean that I don't expect to use the PocketQuicken once I've moved everything to the desktop, so I don't need to convert back or to synchronize the two. Desktop Quicken does not read PocketQuicken data files, nor can I find a way to get it to import a QIF file. Anyone have any suggestions? (And yes, I know the Connectivity Pack has a tool to do this, but no, I don't have the CP.) C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:48:23 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: ÝFluff¨ Comparing the 720 to 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, I'm back from vacation. Frustrated though. I didn't take the right computer equipment and software with me on this trip. A couple questions came up on this list, that I've since gotten the answers to. First, there are three video zoom modes on the 720. So when I run my stock market program, (which is in quickbasic) as long as I am in the right zoom mode, the graphics appear perfect, same as on the 200LX. When I run Norton SI on the DS 200LX I get a Computing Index of 6.7 Running it on the 720 I get a computing index of 14.6 So Norton says it's more than twice as fast, but it doesn't always feel that way to me. I wonder if it's because I run my program from the flash disk instead of RAM? If anyone is interested in pictures, I could take some and put them up on a web site. Let me know what you are interested in. BTW, I'm thinking that NS Basic might be the replacement for quickbasic, especially if I stick with the 720. At least porting to VB6 shouldn't be that difficult. Mike... (on a Lake in Michigan) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:27:47 -0400 Reply-To: Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: What if ... Comments: To: hobchi@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20010422135058.88063.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I copied the Connectivity pack to a flash card and tried to run it. :-( It tried to load a TSR and locked up. Is there any way to run the CP without loading any TSR's? Mike... > -----Original Message----- > From: hobchi Ýmailto:hobchi@yahoo.com¨ > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 9:51 AM > To: mikeschn@ameritech.net > Subject: Re: What if ... > > > Does it run the LX connectivity Pack and the > DataBase appns? > > yor pal al............... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:59:39 -0500 Reply-To: "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: Re: Accurite Doubleslot & IBM Microdrive? Comments: To: Jim Saklad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Saklad wrote: > > >I think this has been addressed before, but will the new IBM > >Microdrive (1GB) work with the Accurite Doubleslot? How about a Type > >III PC Card harddrive? I'm looking for a way to expand storage on my > >LX by a gig or so for work, and I'm open to suggestions.. > > I have a Doubleslot and a 520 MB Type III drive that works perfectly > well in the 200 LX via the Doubleslot. > -- I'm not sure who originally asked about this, but DOS 5.0 may not support a drive bigger than 520 meg, unless you run special partitioning software that loads a device driver. Even then, some software doesn't recognize the extended partitions. David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 19:14:28 -0500 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: Converting PocketQuicken to Quicken4DOS Comments: To: "Steven (Casey) Karp" In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20010429154229.00b12c80@mail.wwc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I want to do a one-time conversion from the PocketQuicken to the >desktop Quicken...... Howdy Steven, How many accounts do you have in your LX? The "hard way" .... Um... the only way I can think of right now, would be to export each account to a .QIF file and then import them into your desktop's Quicken. I haven't heard of any other technique, but there are 3rd party synch. solutions available. See if Quicken/Intuit can help. Good luck. --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 02:37:02 +0200 Reply-To: Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: ÝFluff¨ Comparing the 720 to 200LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Mike Schneider wrote: > When I run Norton SI on the DS 200LX I get a Computing Index of 6.7 > Running it on the 720 I get a computing index of 14.6 > So Norton says it's more than twice as fast, but it doesn't always > feel that way to me. I wonder if it's because I run my program from > the flash disk instead of RAM? It's been many years since I ran Norton SI, so I cannot remember precisely how it measures the computer's speed, but in general an emulator can act very differently from a real computer and speed-measurement tests can give inaccurate results (I remember seeing this on a Mac emulator once). Also, ISTR that screen output is a lot slower under emulation than on the LX (but this might not apply to the more recent WinCE devices), so in average use the 720 will probably feel slower than measured (especially in applications that write a lot to the screen) Which version of Norton SI did you use? tried any other speed measurement utilities? It would be interesting to see if they gave results comparable to Norton SI. > BTW, I'm thinking that NS Basic might be the replacement for quickbasic, > especially if I stick with the 720. At least porting to VB6 shouldn't > be that difficult. You will certainly get a lot more speed out of your applications when running them natively on the 720 rather than in QuickBasic under emulation. The 720's 200MHz StrongARM processor is a lot faster than the processor in the LX. Of course, the Windows CE Operating System drags it down a bit ;-) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:40:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven (Casey) Karp" Subject: Re: Converting PocketQuicken to Quicken4DOS Comments: To: palmtop@n-link.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Witty, wise, weird, and wonderful, Tim wrote at 05:14 PM 4/29/2001 >How many accounts do you have in your LX? Only four. >The "hard way" .... Um... the only way I can think of right now, would be to >export each account to a .QIF file and then import them into your desktop's >Quicken. That wouldn't be too bad, given that there are only four accounts. The problem is that, as I said in the original email, there doesn't seem to be a way to import the QIF files into the desktop Quicken. If anybody who's more familiar with Quicken 8 for DOS knows how to do the import, please don't hesitate to let me know how I'm missing the obvious. >I haven't heard of any other technique, but there are 3rd party synch. >solutions available. See if Quicken/Intuit can help. Couldn't find anything on their website. The only reference to PocketQuicken they have is to the Palm version, and the only converters are from earlier versions of desktop Quicken. *sigh* >Good luck. Thanks! I think I'm going to need it! C. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:30:44 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: ANN: PDB2ADR 1.2 with new feature! Comments: cc: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, (this long email is only of interest to people who use the built-in phone book and Post/LX). I just released a new version (1.2) of PDB2ADR. Two important changes to version 1.0 (1.1 is overridden): 1. A bug fix: Lines of the input file containing more than 256 characters laeded to a null pointer assignment and thus to a program crash. Thanks to Grzegorz Wroblewski, this is now fixed. 2. I added a feature called "category check" which enables you to create Post/LX distribution lists automatically: You can use PDB2ADR in the common way to create the post.adr compatible file. In addition you can give one more column number (this one which holds the category/categories in the input CDF file) and a category name and then PDB2ADR will create a file compatible to the distribution list file format of Post/LX, i.e. only plain email addresses, one per line. And only phone book entries matching the given category will be processed. Example: If you want to make your post.adr file AND a distribution list containing the email addresses of your family members to invite them to the yearly family meeting: 1. make the CDF file as usual with GDBIO c:\_dat\phone.pdb > phone.cdf 2. Optional: Sort the CDF file alphabetically with a sorting program 3. make the post.adr file with (for exampple) PDB2ADR phone.cdf 1 8 6 0 0 > post.adr 4. make your new distribution list containing only family members: PDB2ADR phone.cdf 1 8 6 3 family > family.adr And send you invitation email with Post/LX: ========================= To: file:family.adr Subject: Invitation Next Saturday, we'd love to see you all at 6pm........ ========================= In order to make the category check feature work, you have to make use of the category feature of the built-in phone book of course. Either use the existing categories, if they are already given suitable for your needs, or simply add one category per distribution file you need. For example, add to every entry you want to export into family.adr the category name "family". PDB2ADR checks only if the category field of the phone book entry CONTAINS the string given as category name, not if it matches it exactly. So in our example every entry would be processd which contains the word "family" in the category field. Even if you have two different categories "my family" and "my wife's family". PDB2ADR would treat them as one in the given example. I hope this is of any use for some of you - I mainly created the category check for my own needs. Download the new version as usual from http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/pdb2adr/pdb2adr.zip and have fun! GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:04:07 +0200 Reply-To: Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Would you write this program routine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, I am investigating the possibility of an extra-cheap external MP3 player possibility for the 200LX, which attaches to the serial port and requires no HW modification to the palmtop. It would be based on VSS soundmodule, which was developed by a local guy for use on Amiga computers. Of course if you want to play the quasi-standard 128k MP3 files, there is a need to push data faster through the serial port, which is officially max. 115,2kbit/sec. The guy suggested the following method: The 16450 has no FIFO, so you need to service an interrupt after every 8bit. It gives the opportunity to write 2 bits into the handshakes (he meant DTR and RTS?), effectively achiving 10bits/cycle. It would mean 144000bits/sec, which is enough. The DSP used in the external module is able to read such irregular, unsynchronized data. But the guy can only write MC680x0 (Amiga/Mac) assembler, not PC (x86). Assembly is needed 'cause LX processor is weak. ************************ Could someone write program, that simply outputs a file (an MP3) to the serial port using this 10bit mode of operation? Later the bells and whistles could be added in C, but this core functionality needs to be in ASM. ************************* If you would do it and the details are not enough, please tell me and I give you the email of the guy to discuss directly what he meant. Then, we would test the operation with laplink between HPLX <--> Amiga (guy writes same functionality program for Amiga) and if OK, make a prototype VSS board. Thank you in advance, Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:15:47 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ÝFluff¨ Comparing the 720 to 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > It's been many years since I ran Norton SI, > so I cannot remember precisely > how it measures the computer's speed, I'm not sure I ever knew precisely how SI measured speed but I'm pretty sure it ran some of the usual benchmarks and compared the results with the system timer to get the number. It's possible that the emulator lets the system timer seem to run at whatever speed it can run. I've seen emulators that do that and some that don't. A lot of emulators offer that option. Looking at the specs on the emulator to see if it's not emulating the pc timer speed correctly that can be taken into account if necessary. If it's very well documented that information is likely to be there. Also IIRC, SI takes the drive into consideration if you give it a drive name, and doesn't if you don't. Since you don't have physical drives it would throw the numbers off quite a bit if you're giving it a drive as a parameter. I agree that screen emulation is likely to have a negative effect. I doubt if there is a hardware text mode and that makes a big difference in how fast writing to the screen is. Throw in the 200mhz cpu to do that and that might make up for it. There are just too many variables for any test to be meaningful. I'd probably run SI on it if it was mine, anyway. Making sense is one thing. A gadget lover just gotta have a number to compare gadgets. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:27:30 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Daniels Insulin Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Paul, On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:04:00 -0600, dansedelux wrote: > Daniel--checked out your homepage. I would like to know if there are > insulin programs, in English, that are suitable for the HPLX? I have one > that works on EXCEL with the PC, but a Palm or HPLX app would be great for > my patients with pumps. The only program I know of is the Daily Diabetes Log, which another list member laready mentioned. Or your patients simply buy a license of Camit for Windows (by Roche Diagnostics) and use my DMSIM program to collect the data with the HPLX. Before they come to you, they only have to transfer the data collected by DMSIM to their Windows machine, import the data into Camit and are then able to print wonderful statistics and graphics with Camit. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:51:45 -0500 Reply-To: Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Non-MUP: what does MUP mean? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> They are on line if you search www.palmtoppaper.com on MUP ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:18:57 -0400 Reply-To: Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Fwd: For Sale: HP 200LX + Connectivity Kit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Found this in a newsgroup..maybe of interest for somebody Regards -- ___ Mar|in Bergvill ,Narvik Norway --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:53:55 +0200 From: Patrick Fasler Subject: For Sale: HP 200LX + Connectivity Kit I'm selling my organiser since I bought a new one. Offers to: patrick.fasler@freesurf.ch Ciao Patrick --- end of forwarded message --- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:30:59 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Crundall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Crundall Subject: Laplink/Win2kPro Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed can't seem to make laplink work as written when using the executables stored in D:\bin on my host. is there a workaround? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:32:17 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Crundall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Crundall Subject: FTP Server: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed has anyone made an ftp server function on the 200LX? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:13:00 -0700 Reply-To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: FTP Server: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Martin Crundall wrote: > has anyone made an ftp server function on the 200LX? Yes. There are three that I have used on the LX. FTPS from DASoft works with WWW/LX. LXTELNET, a wattcp telnet application, also works as an ftp server. This is the one I've used the most. NOS-BOX, a version of the JNOS operating system, includes an ftp server component. Regards, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:19:51 -0700 Reply-To: Martin Crundall Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Crundall Subject: Re: FTP Server: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Tks Mike. Found LXTELNET. Seems like the TCP stack has been pretty much sorted out since I last used my 200 (which I'm migrating back to from my woefully inadequate Handspring). I'm surprized there aren't some decent pdb, ndb, etc. synch packages out there that take advantage of this. There's gotta be a demand for this ... as a programmer, I'm tempted ... > has anyone made an ftp server function on the 200LX? Yes. There are three that I have used on the LX. FTPS from DASoft works with WWW/LX. LXTELNET, a wattcp telnet application, also works as an ftp server. This is the one I've used the most. NOS-BOX, a version of the JNOS operating system, includes an ftp server component. Regards, Mike Kopplin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:58:59 +0200 Reply-To: Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Report: My new SimpleTech 96MB CF card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, thanks a lot for all your comments regarding the Simple Technologies CF card issue. I've now purchased that 96MB card made by SimpleTech and I use it now for 4 days in my LX. I have the impression that it is slightly faster than the old card (a Sandisk 64 MB CF) and I didn't see any battery drain issues (light sleep mode works as usual, I think). So there are no problems at all with this card, even in my Omnibook 800CT it is recognized without problems under Linux and under Windows 98. It was really worth the money. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 399479 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml