========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 21:37:39 -0800 Reply-To: camba1@pacbell.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: USER 1 Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Longden Loo wrote: > > > I have a zip file of the installed Lotus 2.2 and I think maybe > > even 2.4, the one on the 200lx. I bought these years ago. > > The one on the 200LX is 2.3, which is almost identical to 2.4 except for > the lack of packaged add-ons, and probably some minor fixes. Most > reference manuals I've seen mention them as one. > > > Somebody on the list remind me. Aren't the old versions of > > Lotus now distributable? I think I remember someone saying on > > this list a few months ago that IBM has made them freeware. > > (IBM now owns Lotus 123). > > I don't recall hearing this, but it would be interesting news if someone > does confirm it (with a posted reference ... not hearsay). > > > I still have Visicalc for the Radio Shack Model 2 on an > > 8" flopppy. :) > > Maybe sharing space with Wordstar? > > - Longden > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Hi lx's I do agree with Loo if some can give the list a post ref I will do my part: I have lotus 123 2.4 orig disk and manuals. -------------Bob1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:42:28 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: macro from topcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sick of having to boot due to crashes i wanted to write a macro that opens everything i usually have open (my heart) but macros only seem to start in applications - why? Nathalie * an HPLX conservative: one who sticks to the vices he knows. * a PalmPilot liberal: one who wants to introduce new vices. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:00:41 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, LXers. Following the thread on Lotus 123 2.3/2.4 diskettes, who has Wordstar 3.3 diskettes? I am looking for them. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Abandonkeep.com lists the Lotus 2.2 program, 780 kb. Attempts to download it is a failed attempt. Anyone ever actually downloaded anything from them? Rather odd behavior for a download site. On 01-31 06:30pm MST, you wrote: > Ed Padin wrote: >> >> http://www.abandonkeep.com/ Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 06:55:37 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Ogren Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Ogren Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, I am appending a repost of how I connect to the internet with my Qualcomm 2760 phone. I just helped my sister upgrade from a QCP-820 to QCP-860, and I can confirm that connecting with an 860 works the same as connecting with the 2760. If you keep the 820, I think the Data-on-the-go modem is your best solution. If you switch to an 860, you will have other viable options. Don't cut the cable! (see below) John ---- repost follows --- Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:32:00 -0700 From: John Ogren To: HPLX Mailing List ,"thomas e. nemeth" Subject: Re: WWW/LX + Sprint=3D ? phone > Who uses WWW/Lx and Sprint PCS service and with what phone? Tom, I hope this makes it onto the list. I've been lurking for some time here, but haven't tried posting until now. The solution to your equation is "QCP-2760". I use my Qualcomm QCP-2760 phone with SprintPCS and WWW/LX, and it works great! I did a lot of research to find a solution that meets my needs, because I want to be able to connect to the web while in digital or analog mode. Like you, I find the sales people in the stores, as well as tech support people on the phone, to be pathologically incapable about answering questions that don't involve MS Windows. The solution I found uses the Qualcomm "Data on the Go" card. This is a PCMCIA card that allows landline connections at 33.6K baud, analog cellular connections at 9.6K baud, and digital (CDMA) cellular connections at 14.4K baud. The card detects if the phone is in a digital or analog coverage area and adjusts accordingly. The card draws 150 mA, and works fine in my 200LX. I got mine on eBay for about $40, but I haven't seen one with the cable for the QCP-2760 (or QCP-860, which uses the same cable) go for that price in a long time. When you are in a digital coverage area, you can also use the serial port with the cable from the Sprint/Qualcomm "Data Connectivity Kit". This approach draws less from the batteries, but only works with a digital connection. You will need a null modem and the HP serial cable to make this work. Like others who like to travel light, I objected to the need to carry two cables and a null modem around. I am fortunate to work with a very capable electronics technician, and he solved my problem. He used a moto-tool to split open the DB-9 connector, and discovered a tiny circuit board inside the shell. He then removed the circuit card, discarded the DB-9 shell, and soldered on a short cable with a 10-pin connector that plugs directly into the serial port on the HP200LX. This is not an operation for the faint of heart or technically-challenged, but it can be done. Good luck! John ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:59:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >A Meshar wrote: >Get a magnifying >glass! - they use 80 char screen, and you'll have to fight to customize >your screen colors (never got it good enough to see it well...) Could you use the "Magnify' program for the 200lx???????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:25:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Alternative to Accton cards for ethernet on HPLX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tamas Feher wrote: > I wonder if these could be used the other way around, thus serving > as a network connection for HPLX via its serial port and still leave > the PCMCIA slot open. In general, special purpose equipment is expensive and is not likely to be flexible in terms of alternative uses. Your best bet would is probably obtaining a laptop or desktop computer that has a network connection and a serial port. And then running LpaLink, INTERLNK, or the CPack software. ISA network cards are cheap, and a DOS 5.0 computer should be easy to obtain. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 07:48:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I have them for the Osborne 1 (CP/M) . Seriously, I have a program called NewWord, which was written by ex-MicroPro programmers and is a WordStar 3.3 clone. The program says it's an "evaluation version," so I guess it would be OK for me to email it to anyone interested. The zip file for the program and a number of utilities is 193K (but it does not include the spelling dictionary, which I accidentally erased some years ago). Bob Robert_Feldman@jdedwards.com -----Original Message----- From: Kheehua Ýmailto:hungkh@SINGNET.COM.SG¨ Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 12:01 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? Hi, LXers. Following the thread on Lotus 123 2.3/2.4 diskettes, who has Wordstar 3.3 diskettes? I am looking for them. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 08:01:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > FYI, you might want to try a lithium 9v in your PAL Gold > light. Radio Shack has one called a ultralife that is used > mostly in smoke detectors. It's $6.99. I used to use them > in my Zoom 14.4 pocket modem. Lasted at least 3 times longer > than Alk. 9v. =Bob= Thanks for the tip Bob. As it is, a normal 9v has gotten me more than 6 months of moderate use (mostly bedside use for looking at some email when the nightstand light might disturb the missus). Now I mostly grab 9v discards from other equipment lying around the house and "burn" them dry (usually good for a few weeks). The PAL makes for a convenient way to squeeze every last watt and the light power is a clear indicator of when to stop squeezing. I might go for the ultralife when I take my PAL Gold on my next run to McMurdo Station (just kidding). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:35:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher wrote: > > Abandonkeep.com lists the Lotus 2.2 program, 780 kb. > Attempts to download it is a failed attempt. Anyone ever > actually downloaded anything from them? ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Yes, me, some days ago with beonex, a netscape-6-clone, after some clicking and a while .. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:46:27 -0400 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Steven J.Aitken" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Steven J.Aitken" Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Bob Christopher In-Reply-To: <200102011128.f11BSwF28948@ez0.ezlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had no trouble getting that file earlier today. Steven J. Aitken, 254 Lincoln Road, Fredericton, NB CANADA E3B 2A3 AZIMUTH MANAGEMENT T506-450-8120 F506-450-4474 azimuth@nbnet.nb.ca -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Bob Christopher Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 11:06 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Abandonkeep.com lists the Lotus 2.2 program, 780 kb. Attempts to download it is a failed attempt. Anyone ever actually downloaded anything from them? Rather odd behavior for a download site. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:57:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010131180720.00aca1c0@mail.alwaysafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:18 PM 1/31/01 -0800, sponsor@ftel.net wrote: >Don, > >At 1/31/01 -0700, you wrote: >>Make sure the baud rate on your phone matches your Post/LX settings. I >>think you can check it from menu>Features>Data>Baud Rate or something like >>that. > > not in the Post/LX I know about (D&A's)... >>Also, make sure you have a fully charged battery or are plugged in. Sorry, I think I've added to the confusion. I work for QUALCOMM, although not in the phone division (which is really Kyocera now, not QUALCOMM). I've seen this problem before and I've asked around about the 820. Here's a few things to check: * The baud rate HAS to be the same for the phone and your program. The path above (menu>Features>...) is for changing the rate on the phone. This rate mismatch is the most common problem. * The 820 is either a CDMA or PCS phone. Either one can do data. See http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/pdf/qcp820_1920_2700userguide.pdf * Your service provider MIGHT have to turn the data feature on for you. That's all done on their end. Just call and ask. * You have to use a data cable. I'd suggest the following the troubleshoot: 1) Get the program working with another modem. That way, you'll know all the setting are correct. 2) Call your service provider and ask if data service is turned on for your account. 3) Check that the baud rate on your phone is the same as what's set in your program. 4) Connect the phone with a data cable. 5) Check your program and make sure you are using the correct COM port (COM 1 serial?) 6) Try to make a call. This should get things working or at least give you a better idea of what's wrong. Let us know how things turn out. This kind of problem comes up too often, maybe there's a way to keep it from happening in the first place. Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:11:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If the color Palm screen is so good, would it > be possible to replace the 200LX screen with > a color Palm running some kind of program? > I.e., the Palm emulates an HP screen (via software) > to the LX. Might be a little clunky, and a little > expensive, but you would have a full LX with an > LX keyboard and a Palm color screen > (though you may not be able to use the color). The screen resolution on the palm is 200x200. That would make things pretty undreadable unless you use the Palm as a sliding window on the LX screen. That might work but would just add to the clumsiness. It would require a program on both the LX and the Palm. Nothing too difficult but somewhat technical. Color could be used. The LX is CGA and has 4 colors. We see it as greys because the screen translates the color information to greys. But the driver written for the Palm could use the color information. But CGA colors weren't pretty. :) I cant imagine anybody using such a combination, though. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:13:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Subject: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > All Palms feature a 160x160 screen. > That's _way_ too much horizontal and > vertical scrolling for my taste. I think I said 200x200 but you're correct. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:18:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Subject: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... Comments: To: Bob-pkc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob-pkc" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: Subject: Idea, was Re: Best of both worlds ... > Talking off the top of my head: > Isn't the LX screen something like 400X200? > Could you use TWO Palm screens, and some software to "split the image" to > the two? > I think there used to be some apps like that on the PC, using 2 monitors to > give a "broader" picture. > *going back to lurk mode* It's 640x200. And the palm is actually 160x160. You'd need 2 rows of 4 Palms to make it work. Laptops are cheaper. Probably smaller too. Certainly less clumsy. Besides that, if I wrote the programs, I'd charge you seperately for each Palm. Who could pass up that kind of opportunity. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 13:48:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: macro from topcard Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Nathalie (with open heart): > sick Bad new for a doctor > of having to boot due to crashes i wanted to write a macro that opens > everything i usually have open (my heart) > > but macros only seem to start in applications - why? Strange... I have several macros that run fine from the topcard. Example: a macro that shuts down everything including system manager, a macro to create an entry in the phonebook that sounds an alarm in the morning, a macro that creates my updated todo list entry in the calendar. I have not tried others - but all of these were written without any special consideration to where they are - i.e. they do not assume anything, and explicitly open/close/access what they require. Can you post what you created? perhaps there is an error of some sort? Rgds, Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 17:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: macro from topcard Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > but macros only seem to start in applications - why? > Not true...I have used macros that started lotus 123, then started varous spreadsheets. Are you using using the 200lx macro manager? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 00:21:24 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert and others, If you want a Wordstar like program for DOS then get VDE from Eric Meyer. It is written in assembly and is small and fast. Shareware at http://www.punky.com/vde. Works great on the 200LX. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:37:43 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? Comments: To: Kheehua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Wordstar 3.3 in a couple of variations (not for sale) but could send zipped files of each disk. I also have v4 for sale on my web site. I also use v4 on my LX. I think it is better than v3.3 because it allows column manipulations, better selection of printer drivers, better integrated spell check, integrates with RightWord, etc. It takes up about 800K with most bells & whistles. Bob Kheehua wrote: > > Hi, LXers. Following the thread on Lotus 123 2.3/2.4 diskettes, who has > Wordstar 3.3 diskettes? I am looking for them. Thanks. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:58:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF:FS:FA: Iomega Zip Drive 100MB SCSI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have a very nice 100mb Iomega Zip drive for auction on eBay. You can see it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121202491 1 Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 07:03:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF:FS:FA: Imoega 100mb Zip Drive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry, I botched the URL of the auction in my previous post. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1212024911 Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 06:30:33 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: macro from topcard Comments: To: Rob Briggs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rob Briggs wrote: > Avi, > Your reply to Nathalie has piqued my interest in macros (again). Would you > consider posting the ones you described? Sure, but you may find them trivial. The TODO macro is too specialised to post here - it relies heavily on the structure of a GDB I created, so this is not a reasonable example to show publicly. I added another - see below... Hope this helps someone... I wrote: > Example: a macro that shuts down everything including > system manager, a macro to create an entry in the phonebook > that sounds an alarm in the morning, a macro that creates my > updated todo list entry in the calendar. Shutdown Macro: Assigned to Fn-F10 {More}{Menu}AT{F10} Wake: Assigned to Fn-F5 {Appt}{F5}{F4}{F2}wake{Alt+B}{Alt+L}0{Alt+T} Close Filer: This relies on having run once CLOSEFLR to modify the bit in APPMGR.DAT which makes the Filer application really closeable. Otherwise, Filer is only asleep, still taking about 56K in memory. {Filer}{More}f{More}{F6} ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 10:11:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Some success at flashcard partitions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While awaiting the arrival of my latest ebay purchase, a 350mb Sandisk card, I started looking at the problem of partitions on a flashcard, and the elusive B: drive mentioned in the SDK. I have tried many different partitioning schemes, none of which resulted in a B: drive on the LX. The best I have been able to do is access different partitions as the A: drive but only one at a time. To do this, I have multiple primary partitions, and whichever one is set active, is seen as the A: drive by the LX. I tried setting all partitions active, but that didn't get me a B: drive either. To make this somewhat useful, I tried to find a utility to change the active partition (e.g. some of those multi-os-boot utilities) which would work on the LX, and allow me to swap A drives. All the ones I have found either don't run at all, or they can't access the partition information. I've done a little work on writing my own, but without Interrupt 13 services, I'm a little lost. Any suggestions? Hey Mack, could you whip up something, or give me a clue how to access the sector with partition information? Of course it would be better to have both A: and B: drives, and maybe this will encourage someone more knowledgeable to look into it further. Cheers, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:26:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Abandonkeep.com lists the Lotus 2.2 program, > 780 kb. Attempts to download it is a failed > attempt. Anyone ever actually downloaded > anything from them? Rather odd behavior > for a download site. A lot of new download sites are like that. I'm not sure why. You just have to play with them till you figure out the combination. I use Go!zilla for downloads so your combination will be different than mine. I did download lotus 2.2. I've downloaded from them before. They're tricky but it works. That is NOT legal software. It's a place to get things to try out. Or use if you don't feel bad about using it. I'm willing to use software that's no longer available for the platform I want it for. I have a lot of old computers. It's kind of a hobby. They're useless if you only have totally legal software on them and I won't let them be useless. But keep in mind that it's not legal and someday someone might really care. If you download from a site like that there's probably a way to prove you did. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:01:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Who has the Wordstar 3.3 Diskettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a zip file of Wordstar 4.0. That's a dos version. I haven't tried it on the LX yet but that is why I downloaded it. It does include the spellchecker file but that's only 23k so I'm not sure how good it is. :) I used to use Wordstar on my CP/M machine. But then I switched to that clone that was also later available in a special LX version. I can't think of it's name. I think it was from the author of zip.com, whose name I also can't think of now. He used to be pretty active in HPHAND. Was it Eric Meyers? I'll bet that program is around somewhere, too. This is readily available on abandonware sites. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:18:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. We're all using what, sad to say, is an out of date computer. Sure, a lot of people here are making it do very up-to-date things, but that's going to get more difficult and most of us just want to use it in the way it was intended to be used. There was a time when we could go out and buy Wordstar or Word Perfect or dBase or Flight Simulator 4 and put it on the palmtop. But now we can't. Maybe we should discuss whether we want to make non-commercially available software available to each other. Or at least make information about where to find it on the web available. I'm not suggesting (yet) that we start passing around this information. I'm suggesting that we have a discussion about it to see how we feel about it. I also think that the list owner and the software vendors who frequent this list should have veto power on this. They're more important to us than easy access to abandonware. In fact, maybe anyone on the list should be able to veto this. Personally I have mixed feelings about this. I do think that information about where to download things we want and can't buy would be useful to a lot of us. Probably not to me since I already have pretty much all the software I want. I know the abandonware sites. But a lot of people don't. On the other hand, abandonware is illegal and some people might not feel comfortable on a list that discusses something illegal. I think that should be respected. We need those people more than we need information about abandonware. What do you think? Should we discuss this? Or should I drop the topic because it's not the apropriate for an honest listserve? If anyone says drop it, I will. Otherwise I'll bring it up again in a day or two if no-one else does. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:41:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" On Friday, February 02, 2001 Barry wrote: >I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. ... >Personally I have mixed feelings about this. ... >What do you think? I too have mixed feelings about it. I certainly have downloaded my share of abandoned programs, and pointed people on other lists to abandonware sites. Recently, I have made offers to send software to people on the list. In one case (NewWord), the software was an evaluation version taht was distributed free many years ago, and the company is long gone. In the other (SunDisk HP95LX flash card drivers), the company that distributed the software is still in business, but the software (1) can only be used with SunDisk flash cards and (2) was originally distributed with those cards, so ownership of a SunDisk card should entitle one to use of the SunDisk software. Indeed, the card is useless on a 95LX without the drivers, and SunDisk, while mentioning them on their web site, does not provide a way to get them (other than perhaps with a new card, but I don't know that). Thus, in both cases, I think that the software can be distributed without doing injustice to the intellectual and commercial property rights of the softwares' authors/owners. As far as Lotus 1-2-3 goes, we all have (at least implied) licenses to use it, since we own HP palmtops with it in ROM. Does that give us license to download a copy to floppy to use on a desktop? Probably not if we use simultaneously use it on two machines. Maybe if we only use it on one machine at a time. People on the Web make a distinction between AbandoneWare (software generally older than 5 years that is no longer sold or supported) and Warez (might be old or abandoned, but more likely just pirated). It might be OK to point people toward abandonware, but certainly not to warez. Overall, I think it would be better for the list not to get involved in either. (But where does that leave my offers to supply NewWork and the SunDisk drivers? Legally, I'm not sure, but I feel OK about them for the reasons given above.) I think we should lobby to get software publishers to release older versions of their software, as Borland/Inprise has done with Turbo C 2.0 and Dan Brinklin has done with VisiCalc. Some out vendors out there do listen. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:25:52 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Abandonkeep.com lists the Lotus 2.2 program, 780 kb. >> Attempts to download it is a failed attempt. Anyone ever >> actually downloaded anything from them? >> > Yes, me, some days ago with beonex, a netscape-6-clone, after > some clicking and a while .. > And me, yesterday with Netscape 4.75 on a Mac G3. Download starts only after a looong wait, so click your choice, then get up and go put on the kettle... Bruce in Toronto ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce Martin bruce_martin@manulife.com (416) 218-5819 Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife Financial ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:31:24 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Re: macro from topcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Avi wrote: >{Appt}{F5}{F4}{F2}wake{Alt+B}{Alt+L}0{Alt+T} I adopted your excellent macro, Avi. However, it seems that you use to work until after midnight and set your wake up time for later in the day. For me, I added {F5}{F3}1{Enter} after your {F4} and tripled the imperative to WAKE - WAKE - WAKE ! as I wouldn't wake up by such a modest lower case call . Regards Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 20:59:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Who has the Lotus-Diskettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Today I found a set of Lotus 123 v2.2 for DOS on 5x3,5" disks (Install+System+the three AllWays disks) in 720kb format. The catch is that it's a "Special Edition - Codepage 852" version, so I guess it's not using the usual Lotus LICS (~CP850) character- set but the CP-852 eastern-european codetable. If there are any czechkoslovakian, croat-slovene, polish, roumanian or hungry, etc. people interested, write me and I can send you the files or rather will upload them to some FTP place. Also available are Lotus Freelance v4.0 for DOS (7x720k disks) and Lotus Magellan r2.0 (2x720k). Sad news: I also found the special CP-852 version of Lotus 123 ver2.4, but a disk is missing from THAT set; I will try to locate it. BTW, these software were used by the local branch of an int'l bank and put into waste bin recently. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:37:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: Ken London Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 2/1/01 -0500, you wrote: > >A Meshar wrote: > >Get a magnifying > >glass! - they use 80 char screen, and you'll have to fight to customize > >your screen colors (never got it good enough to see it well...) >Could you use the "Magnify' program for the 200lx???????? Let me see: If you mean can Magnify be used on the palmtop - yes, it was written specifically for the Palmtop. If you mean can you use Magnify to enlarge DosCim - I am not sure - never tried it. Possibly a problem might be with memory and environment - since DOSCIM is huge and needs EVERY piece of memory available. >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:32:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Some success at flashcard partitions Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 2/2/01 -0700, Mike Kopplin wrote: >While awaiting the arrival of my latest ebay purchase, a 350mb >Sandisk card, I started looking at the problem of partitions on >a flashcard, and the elusive B: drive mentioned in the SDK. Drive B: is also mentioned by Filer This has been a sticking point for as long as I had a Palmtop (since 1993 sometime...) We never found a solution.. But tell me this, Mike, why is it important to partition the drive? The only rational answer I found so far was to reduce the clustersize on huge cards, but I know this was not the issue when we started this quest years ago, since the cards were small. I recall when I got my 40 MB card - I thought it was ENORMOUS and I'll NEVER fill it up (8 months was > than "never" at the time ). So what's the motivation? TIA Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:51:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Some success at flashcard partitions In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010202112701.00abb1b0@mail.alwaysafe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, A Meshar wrote: > But tell me this, Mike, why is it important to partition the drive? The > only rational answer I found so far was to reduce the clustersize on huge > cards, but I know this was not the issue when we started this quest years > ago, since the cards were small. I recall when I got my 40 MB card - I > thought it was ENORMOUS and I'll NEVER fill it up (8 months was > than > "never" at the time ). So what's the motivation? Two motivations for me. No, three. One, clustersize as you say. Many small files make inefficient use of space, and I seem to have many small files. Two, that delay after power-on while the card is checked (or whatever it's doing). I started with a 10mb card, and progressed to a 16, 24 then 48. Every jump has meant a longer delay. I am afraid to find out what it will be with a 350mb card. I was thinking smaller partitions might not be so bad. I tend to turn my palm on and off a lot and often times it's when accessing files on the A: drive. That delay gets very tedious even if it is only several seconds or so. Three, it hasn't been done :-) So, now I got my card. Brand new. Unfortuneately, I now realize it is one of those Sandisks not supported without a driver, so now I have to figure out how to get that. Is that driver for large cards that Mack wrote available, for sale or otherwise? Regards, Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:13:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: sponsor@FTEL.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > If you mean can you use Magnify to enlarge DosCim - I am not sure - never > tried it. Possibly a problem might be with memory and environment - since > DOSCIM is huge and needs EVERY piece of memory available. Never tried magnify on DosCim but I have found it works in everything else on the 200lx. Haven't found anything it didn't work in.......although there are some programs where it doesn't remember where it was the last viist. If I remember correctly magnify took up very little room. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 16:21:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Barry wrote: >We're all using what, sad to say, is an out of date computer. Not necessarily....people determine whether a computer is out of date, and alot of people are still using the 200lx, therefore it is not out of date. For some users it is out of date but for many users on this list it is not out of date. If you have a 200lx and it meets your needs then it is not out of date. Ultimately you (the user) determines whether a computer is out of date. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:32:58 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Tests HP200 -> S35i+6120+R320s GSM phones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As you know, my (almost new :-( ) Siemens S35i was stolen last month. Today, I tried some GSM phones, in the goal to connect them to the HP. The today the Nokia 6210 and Ericsson R320s phone, To compare, I add the results I got from the S35i. The softwares tested were : Low level tests : - MDR : a small modem tester (gives modem caracteristics, fax class, registers status, etc...) E-mail : - Goin'Postal 5.1 - Self written routines using LXPOP + Wattcp. Fax : - Sending : Ecofax - Receiving : Bgfax 1.7 (according to the different capabilities and interfaces, I plan really to use one software to send, and one to receive ) Results : S35i + 2 non-Siemens cables. - MDR : As the program's modem speed cannot be set higher than 2400 bps, and the S35i is fixed to 19200 bps, the modem is not recognized. - Goin'postal : As I said in previous messages, this program don't works with GSM phone, because of the lack of a DCD line wired in the sold cables (but works with Daniel's ones). I must add that I found differences with the two cables, one having more difficulties to transmits signals to the palmtop. They don't use the same interface chip (the one with a Max232 works better than the one with a Max207-compatible chip). - LXPOP : OK - Ecofax : Modem not found. - Bgfax : If I remember, the program answered the call, but cannot get the page. Nokia 6210 + Nokia DLR-3P cable - MDR : OK - Goin'postal : Same results than with the bad s35i cable : bad link quality, the programs seems to have great difficulty to find the modem. - LXPOP : OK - Ecofax : Modem not found. - Bgfax : The phone rings, but the program don't detect the call. Ericsson R320s + Ericsson branded cable - MDR : OK. - Goin'Postal : Same problem than with S35i (disconects when not receiving DCD status line), but _the phone don't disconnect automaticaly_... Perhaps a good init string will solve it... - LXPOP : seemed OK, but when I returned to home, I found that I have not received the messages I sent. Must retry... - Fax sending : OK - Fax receiving : Aknowledge the call, but not get the page. Will try others init strings. Modem verdict (?) : - Very disapointed by the Nokia. But as others (Martin....) seems to have good results with Daniel's cables, I think I must blame the cable.. - The bests hardware results comes with the Ericsson. The palmtop seems to receive correctly all phone's signals from the original cable (note that, according to the docs, the Ericsson seems to be one of the only GSM phones having true RTS/CTS lines, the others have only Tx/Rx/Gnd lines from the phone, RTS/CTS being emulated by the cable lines....), the only problems seems to be due to incorrect init strings. Well which one ? - As modem, the Ericcson rules. Even if I know that I could better results with daniel's cables, as I know (I tried) I will have great difficulties to make these cables (the Max3232 is definitely impossible to find in France's stores, I have not a great experience of soldering SSOP chips, etc...), I prefer a little security... - As phones, the S35i is the most complete (it is the only which can shut-off itself at 1 hour AM, when I forget it), but I hate these beeps it do when searching for a vocal connection. As a 3+ years old Nokia user, I am perfectly accustomed to its user interface, but it has no vocal memo. And the Ericsson has the better sensibility (even without its optional hi-gain antenna, following some sources), but its case desing is outdated. Knowing the way I keep the phone (in different pockets), I know that a phone without appearing antenna will be more durable (my old 2110 was dying loosing the antenna support)... Well, any last minute information or advice ? Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 14:28:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain It is out of date in the sense that the operating system is not actively supported by the company that wrote it. Being out of date does not mean being non-functional. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ken London Ýmailto:KenLondon@BELD.NET¨ Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:22 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Abandonware >Barry wrote: >We're all using what, sad to say, is an out of date computer. Not necessarily....people determine whether a computer is out of date, and alot of people are still using the 200lx, therefore it is not out of date. For some users it is out of date but for many users on this list it is not out of date. If you have a 200lx and it meets your needs then it is not out of date. Ultimately you (the user) determines whether a computer is out of date. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:49:52 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Some success at flashcard partitions Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mike, Thanks for the quick reply... At 2/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >One, clustersize as you say. Many small files make inefficient >use of space, and I seem to have many small files. same here... the 512MB PC Card has clusters of 8K. >Two, that delay after power-on while the card is checked (or >whatever it's doing). 7 seconds for the 512M card. Filer is reading the entire FAT and directories. The more the card fills, the longer the delay. That is a good point, although I am not using Filer that much, so it is a small priority in my particular motivation... I see it as a nuisance to heavy Filer users. Ususally when I turn palmtop on and off I am in Post/LX in a SC Workarea without SysMgr, so the delay is not there... >Three, it hasn't been done :-) Best of all! This may open more insights to other things anyway... Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 13:41:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: macro from topcard Comments: To: Winfried Zettelmeyer In-Reply-To: <20010202193122.DDEG156941.smtp5s.retemail.es@retemail.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi Winfried: At 2/2/01 +0100, you wrote: >Avi wrote: > > >{Appt}{F5}{F4}{F2}wake{Alt+B}{Alt+L}0{Alt+T} > >I adopted your excellent macro, Avi. However, it seems that you >use to work until after midnight and set your wake up time >for later in the day. Not sure why you say this... {Appt} - opens apptbook {F5}{F4} - goto today {F2} - add an appt wake - type that into the description {Alt+B} - Enable the alarm - BTW assumes that alarms are NOT enable generally... {Alt+L}0 - set lead time of alarm to zero {Alt+T} - jump to the Starting time - So there must be some mistake in your rendition - because I never set up the time in anyway - just put the cursor there for me to type the desired time. Check that out... Is it possible you have a foreign language Palmtop, maybe that is the source of the discrepancy? > For me, I added {F5}{F3}1{Enter} after your {F4} and tripled the > imperative to WAKE - WAKE - WAKE ! as I wouldn't wake up by such a modest > lower case call . Hmmm The thing is I have to set it up at different times, not the same time each day, so I have to finish at the Alt-T and enter the time. Like you, I copy the entry after set up, and edit each starting time to add 3 minutes to the starting time of the second, and 6 minutes to the starting time of the third - I learned about the necessity of this the hard way ... Rgds, Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:44:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Multiple ram disks instead of 1 big one MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a T2T 32M 200LX with its single 32M C: drive. I was thinking it might make a nice option to carve it up into multiple smaller drives instead of a single one of maximum size. It might make backup easier/quicker if I could focus only on 1 smaller drive instead of a subset of files on the whole 32m C: drive. Comments? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:06:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > But keep in mind that it's not legal and someday someone might > really care. If you download from a site like that there's > probably a way to prove you did. The way these "software cops" go about it is differently: They look at your disk drive. If you have software there without a corresponding license, they have you. They don't care where you d/l it from. Of course they'll have to gain entry to your home or the location where the machines are, they'll have to get a judge to issue proper paperwork to let them check your machines, etc. There are a few impediments in their way, but they have been very successful so far. I do not know if they went up against individuals, but possibly. I think their targets are usually businesses misusing software. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:07:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Feldman, Robert wrote: > perhaps with a new card, but I don't know that). Thus, in both cases, I > think that the software can be distributed without doing injustice to the > intellectual and commercial property rights of the softwares' > authors/owners. But you really do not know if they are or not damaged. Did you ask them? ... I also suspect they would not respond, because they really would rather not get into these discussions - see my other message re tax treatment of "dead" software assets. > As far as Lotus 1-2-3 goes, we all have (at least implied) licenses to use > it, since we own HP palmtops with it in ROM. Does that give us license to > download a copy to floppy to use on a desktop? Probably not if we use > simultaneously use it on two machines. Maybe if we only use it on one > machine at a time. The license you have is specific to the copy of the software in the ROM of the palmtop, not any other copy, BTW. But am I wrong? didn't Lotus release 1-2-3 v2.4 on their website? > People on the Web make a distinction between AbandoneWare (software > generally older than 5 years that is no longer sold or supported) and Warez > (might be old or abandoned, but more likely just pirated). It might be OK to > point people toward abandonware, but certainly not to warez. As long as "abandoneware" is not certain about the status, its age is not metrial in this discussion, nor is the support status. Again, see my comments on what asset owners do with what they consider "dead" software. > Overall, I think it would be better for the list not to get involved in > either. (But where does that leave my offers to supply NewWork and the > SunDisk drivers? I tend to agree, both my user "hat" and vendor "hat" :> > Legally, I'm not sure, but I feel OK about them for the reasons given > above.) Yeah, exactly, not clear. > I think we should lobby to get software publishers to release older versions > of their software, as Borland/Inprise has done with Turbo C 2.0 and Dan > Brinklin has done with VisiCalc. Some out vendors out there do listen. As Lotus has done, etc. I agree with the lobbying - it is the best way to go, IMHO. Then there is no question, and no arguments. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 15:07:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. We had such heated discussions here before - possibly 3-4 times... As a vendor of software, whose software _was_ found in such so called "abandonware" sites, I am concerned. It is our income. It is our asset. The term "abandonware" was coined to make people feel less problematic about taking something that does not belong to them, under the (false) disguise that if it is abandoned, it free for the taking. First of all, our product found their way into these sites and believe me they were were never abandoned! Secondly, in some cases, software assets are specifically treated as they are - i.e.e no development, no release to the public domain. In most cases there are good taxation reasons. So the software is not abandoned, just used in a way that is not apparent to the person out there. Agenda was EXACTLY such an example until it was released by Lotus (then IBM). I know of several other such pieces of software from prominent companies. Third, in most cases, I hear people's outrage expressed like this: I _need_ this software, and that company will not sell it or release it, so the heck with them, I am interpreting it as "abandonment". There are several nasties about this: The need is not an automatic license to (pardon me for using the word) steal someone else's property. Software, despite its ethereal, intangible appearance, _is_ an asset, it _is_ property, like a car is, like a palmtop is. The owners of the asset has the only right to determine what to do with the asset (well, courts intervene too, of course). If I "need" to get to San Francisco _really badly_ this need is not a license to take someone's car and drive it to SF. Why should someone's need for a software be treated differently? Just because it is not _apparent_ how the seet is used, it does not mean automatically that it is abandoned. Furthmore, "abandoned" per se is still not a license to steal. The proper way to go is to provide a general license to use by the public. Sure some of the authors and owners never bothered - apparently - to give such a license (release the product to the public). But this is only _apparently_ - we really do not know for sure. It is like a car that parks in front of your house for a year. Can you use it? Is it abandoned? You really do not know unless you talk with the owner. In the case of many assets, there are established procedures to determine that an asset is abandoned. Even then, the authority to use the asset is vested in some local government or agency, not in the hands of an individual. So this is my Vendor "hat". I do not believe that people are careful with owner's rights, because, they justify to theselves, it is ok to take it - it is abandoned, I am not really stealing. Balloney! My other hat is one of a user of palmtops and an old computer. I want some software to make it work for me. I see CLEARLY the position: Look no one suffers (apparent) economic damage by me taking this software, because no one is selling it. But still I know this is a bit of a hypocrisy: If a software is treated for tax purposes as "dead", its increasing usage in the market kills that designation and CAN cause economic losses to the rightful owner. But Joe here has no idea that this is the case. Taking something that causes an economic loss to the owner is commonly known as (forgive me all) theft, plain and simple. So the last question is this: If one takes something and does not know that taking it is a theft or not - is one considered a thief? I realize that my presentation is rather in stark terms, but frankly, there is no other way. Either you can take it without causing economic loss (i.e. it is free for the taking), or not. If you do not know, there is no constructive way to interpret it as "ok", although that is what people try to talk themselves into by bringing up the issue of abandonment. Unfortunately, in the case of a car or building, we have laws in most countries that delineate when something can be considered abandoned, and then, the asset reverts to the state - not to an individual. For software, it is not so clear cut and regulated, and so the abuse is rife. Anyway, I see both sides of the argument, but I cannot in all honesty say that I think it is ok, because I do not. I think it is NOT ok to take what is called abandoned software - since we do not know, and the takers have zilch motivation to find out! Anyway, forgive me all for the length. This is a tough subject for me, as you imagine. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 18:54:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff Abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > It is like a car that parks in front of your house for a year. > Can you use it? Is it abandoned? You really do not know unless > you talk with the owner. I believe in this instance it would be considered abandoned. My understanding is that some cities, if the car is not "moved" every xxx days then it is considered abandoned and is removed and in many instances crushed or destroyed. There were instances where a car assumed abandoned because it is old, crushed only to find out it was still an active car. Cities have been nailed in court numerous times in these circumstances. The bottom line is this would not be a good analogy for software because the property is "left" on public property (the streets) for long periods of time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 01:22:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Tests HP200 -> S35i+6120+R320s GSM phones In-Reply-To: <20010202205749.A053.LISTES2@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 2 Feb 2001 22:32:58 +0100 Jacques Belin a =E9crit: > The today the Nokia 6210 and Ericsson R320s phone, Oops! Not very clear... Imagine something like "The phone I tested are 6210 and R320s"... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:12:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So this is my Vendor "hat". I do not believe that people are careful with owner's rights, because, they justify to theselves, it is ok to take it - it is abandoned, I am not really stealing. Balloney! Without quoting all of Avi's email, I agree on most of it. But there's a few questions: 1. If a user buys a license of a software, but the company who made the software decides to stop supporting that version of the software, hence stops supporting that licensed user, what really happens to that license? Does it simply vanish? Is the user still able to sell the license to someone else? Does that mean that _that_ version of the software is dead? I strongly believe that while software companies could -- and would in some instances -- sue your socks off for using copied software, they often will abandon faithful users because these users refuse to "upgrade" to a new version, or because the company decides that it's not profitable to support happy (hence not generating revenue) users or simply because the company decides to fold (but heeey, they still retain the rights on this software). The law may not agree with me on this, but heck if you want users to become faithful holders of a license, methink a company should support them faithfully until those users decide to scrap that license. 2. If a user finds an original set of discs/cd-rom containing some software in the bottom of some old box (purchased at a garage sale?), does it mean that this user now owns the license? Well, here's the tricky bit: who can prove (either way) that the software exists on some hard-drive and is being used? The discs are, after all, only a means to put the software on the drive. Suppose that yes, the software *is* being used somewhere, and that new user installs it anyway, then yes, it's stealing, but then again, how can the user find out? Suppose it's not being used, then is the user stealing? What if the company doesn't support the software anymore? I'll tell you what I think the problem is, two things: 1) Hardware/Software development, changing so fast that it becomes extremely difficult to support users of old software on old hardware 2) The software company's licensing business model does not allow people to use software on their own without ties to the same company who would often rather see these ties -- as far as their obligation to the user -- severed. So, I ask you, what of the rights of the license holders? Piffles, in most cases: you can use the software only for yourself and up until the company decides it doesn't want to support you anymore. In effect, this means that the license is a dead end -- contrary to actual physical assets, most of which can be easily resold without ties to the manufacturer. By dead end, I mean this: once you decide to stop using the software, you can quite possibly remove it from your drive and give it/sell it to someone else, but will the company let you transfer the license or support that new user? Yes, but only if that software is still supported -- if it's not, the license is not necessarily dead, but its usefullness is greatly reduced. Why? Because support is often required because of a few reasons: software and hardware is not well documented, certainly not enough for people to support themselves (it's not like you can easily get a servicing manual that will tell you all you need to know). If, on the other hand, support is not available, what happens? The software sits on a shelf or in some box, and is forgotten -- until someone find it. Which is at the heart of our debate. Now, let's examine the abandones software: hec, the license still exists, right? So how the heck can a software company say that the software is not used anymore? How the heck can they assume that this license is not help by a fully happy and satisfied customer who does not need anything else than software that works? They wait for service calls? Riiiiight! Based on that HP would assume I'm not using my LX since I've never called them. No, what they do is quite simple: they _decide_to_abandon_ their_licensed_users_ -- unless the users pay more money to upgrade and make the company's life easier -- independently of wether or not the user was happy in the first place and there's a big chance that an ungrade will break everything. No, the company doesn't care, it's there to make money. And even when it's not there to make money on some software anymore, they still believe users should fulfill their obligations -- even if those companies even refuses to fulfill _their_ obligation to their registered users. And then those companies tell the IRS that this or that software isn't used anymore when they don't even know -- they simply assume that it's true, even if the licenses are still out there, ready to be picked up and used. So, if hypothetically I use software that is not supported anymore, and I don't hold a license, am I stealing? Stealing what exactly? No support time, for sure. Tax money? What of the millions of copies of software that people never register? Don't they still represent licenses? Can I just buy an shrinkwrapped software package and send in the registration? Will I get support? Even a reply? Will it matter? I'm sorry, but I've rarely noticed a serious effort by companies to find out whether or not a license is still used or not. They don't care unless they lose money over it. I think it's hard for me to care as well. On the same note, the support aspect of my license of WWW/LX 2.0 was going to expire a while back, so I sold it just before so that someone else could take advantage of getting an upgrade to 3.0. But, what if I had decided I was perfectly happy to stay with 2.0? I would have both lost support and $$ value in my investment (I would have had to pay full price for 3.0). So yes, times are hard. Perhaps an annual fee to keep getting support on a license, perhaps a per-call fee, perhaps an incentive to try the new version but give the choice to the user to revert back if things don't work the way they want? For software that truly makes my life easier instead of hoping that the hype will make me buy, I'm ready to pay, people. But when the software does what it's supposed to do and satisfies the user, please, Mr. CEO, don't cut the hand that fed you. Thanks, Philippe (that felt gooood!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:16:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't checked all the archives for HPLX but I recall that we've discussed 'abandonware' either here or on CSi or in the pages of the HP PalmtopPaper. As I recall the discussion ended with.... It's a dirty, rotten shame that more shareware, commercial programs aren't turned into 'freeware sans support' but using commercial software without a license is still unethical and illegal. .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 02:31:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Abandonware > >Barry wrote: > >We're all using what, sad to say, is an out of date computer. > > Not necessarily....people determine whether a computer is > out of date, and alot of people are still using the 200lx, > therefore it is not out of date. > > For some users it is out of date but for many users on this > list it is not out of date. If you have a 200lx and it > meets your needs then it is not out of date. Ultimately you > (the user) determines whether a computer is out of date. Ok. I wasn't really trying to discourage 200lx owners. I'm one myself and I love all 3 of mine, not to mention my 100lx and my 2 95 lx's. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:04:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My personal position is simple: I attempt to buy what I think I need. I have gone to some pains to acquire specific software. What hurts is that some people think me crazy because i BUY so much software ( yes this is Europe) . But what I can not buy, I will use without fretting about it. Besides, I have used several 'abandonware' sites to recover software I own, but lost diskettes or whatever. I am still owner of officially unfindable Quickbasic 4.5, ( recovered via abandonware site ). So where was my license in the meantime ( between lost diskettes and download from a site? "Theft" is a matter of definition, it is a term of law, and not a real situation. Remember 'property is theft'? Using 'abandonware' is often BREAKING A LAW. That is the issue. You are not necessarily cheating, stealing or whatever, but you choose to act illegally. That is a fair choice. Be willing to defend yourself, but do not complain if you have to pay extra for using something illegally. Probably US law would be harsher than my native Dutch law, where a proof to attempt to buy something as intangible as abandonware might be considered sufficient to be acquitted ( after paying for a single license ;-). Just my 2c ( or some more) Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 07:17:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Electric Shock Hazard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You are going to get someone KILLED by posting junk like this. It takes far less than 100ma to kill someone IF that 100ma flows through their heart. And, your suggestion that people can safely test a 110v socket with their finger is irresponsible. If they know what they are doing, yes it can be done. But if ANY other part of their body is grounded then the current will flow through their body instead of only through their finger and they can be KILLED. DO NOT TOUCH LIVE 110 VOLT CIRCUITS UNLESS YOU ARE TRAINED TO KNOW HOW TO DO THIS PROPERLY. Vic Roberts On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 00:01:31 GMT, Bryan R Leipper wrote: > Re: electric shock hazards > > As best I have been able to find out the following > seems to be the case. > > It is current of somewhere around 100 milliamps through the > appropriate organs that will kill. > > When current gets down to the 10 mA range you get tingled. > > When current gets up over 100 mA the muscles will often > seize throwing the individual away from the source of the > shock (unless constrained). > > Burns are a different phenomenon than electrocution. Burns > require a bit of energy so there are both current and a > time factors to consider. Deposition has to be much greater > than dissipation so burns usually require a good deal of > current (many amps) and a short period of time. > > Normal skin resistance is such that some idiots can get > away with testing 110 v sockets by using their fingers > as sensing instruments by looking for a tingle between > live contacts. With lower voltages (such as batteries > around 10 volts) the tongue is used because the moisture > reduces skin resistance. Use Ohm's law to calculate the > resistance > > (volts = resistance times amps, where amps is 1/100). > > Skin resistance will depend upon dampness of the skin and > the contact surface area. (Natalie's construction accident > also illustrates that contact is improved with a bit of > pressure) > > There are also electrical effects such as the fact that > high frequencies tend to conduct their current on the > surface of a conductor. Ýsnip¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 09:21:11 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Abandonware Ed Keefe writes: > I haven't checked all the archives for HPLX but I recall that we've > discussed 'abandonware' either here or on CSi or in the pages of the HP > PalmtopPaper. As I recall the discussion ended with.... It's a dirty, rotten > shame that more shareware, commercial programs aren't turned into 'freeware > sans support' but using commercial software without a license is still > unethical and illegal. There has been good discussion in this thread. Wrt Ed's comment, I wonder if software that is no longer sold or supported is still truly "commercial." Regardless, I find myself in the camp of trying to have a license for every piece of software I use. Here are a couple of examples. My desktop computer is a 286 that ran DOS 3.3 for 10 years. Last year I bought an upgrade package so I could have DOS 5.0 on it. I didn't care much about upgrading the desktop (I was perfectly satisfied with the 3.3), but it gave me a manual for the DOS on my 200LX! I bought the package from a list member, since it's not commercially available. From grad school days I have a copy of MASS11, an excellent precision drawing program. It runs great on my desktop 286. I called the company a few years ago to see about buying a license and they wanted something like $400. This is for a DOS program that has to be 10 years old. Not willing to pay that much I went out and bought AutoSketch (a stripped down AutoCad) for about $90. It runs *very* slowly (intolerably so) on my 286, probably because it doesn't have a math co-processor. My solution? I just don't use either. Does anyone want to buy a copy of AutoSketch? :) Finally, I have been known to send money to authors of freeware programs because I found them so valuable. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 15:36:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Thanks! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really want to thank everybody who took the effort to make this list more palmtop friendly concerning line lenght, quoting, subjects... The list is back to a reasonable daily digest length and gained a new attractiveness. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 10:23:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John Menard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Menard Subject: Re: Abandonware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I called Corel to inquire about purchasing WordPerfect for Dos. They laughed at me and told me to look on the net...they said there were sites with all of these old titles. Maybe we could point out these sites for informtion purposes? >From: Barry >Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry > >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Abandonware >Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:18:32 -0600 > >I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. >We're all using what, sad to say, is an out of date computer. >Sure, a lot of people here are making it do very up-to-date >things, but that's going to get more difficult and most of us >just want to use it in the way it was intended to be used. > >There was a time when we could go out and buy Wordstar or Word >Perfect or dBase or Flight Simulator 4 and put it on the >palmtop. But now we can't. Maybe we should discuss whether we >want to make non-commercially available software available to >each other. Or at least make information about where to find it >on the web available. > >I'm not suggesting (yet) that we start passing around this >information. I'm suggesting that we have a discussion about it >to see how we feel about it. > >I also think that the list owner and the software vendors who >frequent this list should have veto power on this. They're more >important to us than easy access to abandonware. In fact, maybe >anyone on the list should be able to veto this. > >Personally I have mixed feelings about this. I do think that >information about where to download things we want and can't buy >would be useful to a lot of us. Probably not to me since I >already have pretty much all the software I want. I know the >abandonware sites. But a lot of people don't. > >On the other hand, abandonware is illegal and some people might >not feel comfortable on a list that discusses something illegal. >I think that should be respected. We need those people more >than we need information about abandonware. > >What do you think? Should we discuss this? Or should I drop >the topic because it's not the apropriate for an honest >listserve? If anyone says drop it, I will. Otherwise I'll >bring it up again in a day or two if no-one else does. > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:51:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: HP200LX PCMICA Disks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (5) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. They are in excellent Condition! One (1) $25.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $50.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:00:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "A Meshar" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 5:07 PM Subject: Re: Abandonware > Barry wrote: > > I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. > > We had such heated discussions here before - possibly 3-4 > times... Good point. I hadn't considered that. And feelings about this are strong on both sides. > As a vendor of software, whose software _was_ found in such so > called "abandonware" sites, I am concerned. It is our income. > It is our asset. > > The term "abandonware" was coined to make people feel less > problematic about taking something that does not belong to > them, under the (false) disguise that if it is abandoned, it > free for the taking. > > First of all, our product found their way into these sites and > believe me they were were never abandoned! The site that posted your software when you're so easy to contact may call itself an abandonware site but they're a warez site. The term "abandonware" is misused by a lot of warez people. But there are people who really are interested in preserving old computers and the old software that makes them usable as part of our history. A lot of people, including me, think that's really important. Lobbying is part of that. A big part and a lot is being done. And some companies are going along. But the software will disappear in the meantime. Abandonware sites keep a lot of that from happening. I do think there are times when it's honorable to break laws and this is one. I think the important limiting principle is that it shouldn't prevent people from being paid for their work or publishers being paid for the product they've invested in. There's also the issue of the programs whose present owners can't be found or even identified. That's true of a LOT of old software. Companies merge, are bought out,split up and one part goes here and another goes there, and all records ownership end up in a warehouse somewhere and even the owners don't know they own it. While I am a strong believer in private property, private property is property. I don't think anyone can own software. The idea is silly on the face of it. If you create it you have the right to be paid for it's use. If you invest it you have the right to be paid for it's use. But what does anybody actually own? There's really nothing there. So the fairness issue ends when nobody's trying to get paid anymore. I think authors and publishers should give up their claims or lose their claims to software when it's no longer their product. Let them focus their attention on the theives who steal what is their product. The history of this time will be very important in the future. The last 50 years and probably the next 50 years or so are probably the time of one of the most dramatic changes in the history of our species. Comparable to the invention of farming and to the building of cities and the division of labor that implied. And the software we're talking about is a very big part of that history. Maybe even it's core. But, between the private email I got and a couple of these posts on this list, I think it's time drop this topic. Some people here will be bothered by it and I guess thats the answer to the question. And I'm ok with that. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 11:19:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I strongly believe that while software companies > could -- and would in some instances -- sue your > socks off for using copied software, they often will > abandon faithful users because these users refuse > to "upgrade" to a new version, or because the > company decides that it's not profitable to support > happy (hence not generating revenue) users or > simply because the company decides to fold (but > heeey, they still retain the rights on this software). Sometimes it works like this: We had a large Data General mini computer. Two of them, in fact. Word Perfect was first created on and for the Data General. PC versions came later, although the time I'm talking about was while the PC version of WP was the most popular word processor. Pricing is different for mini computers. We paid Word Perfect $35,000 for the license for each mini. $70,000. In addition we paid $15,000 anually for support. That was mandatory. The copy protection was such that each year before the expiration of our service contract, we would recieve a tape (after we'd paid for the coming year's service) that would renew our license. If we didn't run the tape the program ceased to run on the day after the expiration of our contract. It also stopped running if we changed or added a CPU. Fun when you lose a cpu and have to replace it and try to catch up and you're word processor won't run till they mail the tape to you. I think it was about 1992 or 93 (a guess) that WP decided to no longer support the Data General. They sent us a notice that there would be no more support and that when our service contract expired (in 2 months) the program would no longer run and that we should begin making plans now. And they actually did it. They left us with $70,000 worth of software that would no longer run. Our lawyers said there wasn't much we could do. And sure enough, on that date it stopped running. They weren't even willing to remove the copy protection so we could keep using it. We had paid for it. By the way we ended up having to install a large lan to support word processing after that. Nothing else was available on DG platforms. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 12:51:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Barry wrote: >I do think there are times when it's honorable >to break laws and this is one. It is not honorable to break laws....that having been said the software industry should recognize that computers become obsolete and that some users will always remain. Computers will become orphaned but users will always keep those orphans up and running as long as it meets their needs. People who create softwaer should recognize this and make provisions for it. Take for example lotus 123 release 4, lotus (now IBM) would have been smart to do something like sell the rights to it to someone like Thaddeus for $10.00 and let Thaddeus "sell" copies of 123 r4 for say $1.00. and no laws would be broken. That would have eliminated this "grey" area. >But what does anybody actually own? There's >really nothing there. Yes there is...intellectual ideas. >But, between the private email I got and a couple of these posts >on this list, I think it's time drop this topic. Some people >here will be bothered by it and I guess thats the answer to the >question. And I'm ok with that. I would disagree. As long as people are using the 200lx it will remain an issue. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:03:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: "Bel, Michel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >"Bel, Michel" wrote: >Besides, I have used several 'abandonware' sites to recover software I own, >but lost diskettes or whatever. Keep in mind you don't "own" the software...you own a "license" to use it. The author "owns" the software. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 13:20:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: theise@netins.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore Heise wrote: > There has been good discussion in this thread. Wrt Ed's comment, I wonder > if software that is no longer sold or supported is still truly "commercial." Regardless of whether it is commercial the software is still "intellectual property." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:47:43 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For some time already I questioned myself if there is need of a special software protocol to run bluetooth on the palmtop. Today I guess I got some kind of an answer from the http://www.brainboxes.com site, which is a manufacturer of bluetooth products. They offer the following devices: -Compact flash -PC card -USB -RS232 Dongle -RS232 Converter If I understood right what they say, you need a bluetooth software stack if you want to use a full featured bluetooth, like full speed and point to multipoint connections. The first 4 of their devices are designed for this use and they ship Windows and CE drivers with these products. BUT THE RS232 CONVERTER WORKS WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE!! Therefore it is restricted to 128000 baud and point to point connections only. As they say, the converter can be plugged onto any device with a RS232 port. It can only connect to one device at a time. The advantage is, that it can be plugged into any non-intelligent RS232 device and therefore gives true cable replacement. I think this should be sufficent for most of our needs, like bluetooth connections to one mobile phone or to one printer or to one desktop. It may however not be sufficient for a bluetooth network. The converter has the size of the original HP 9-pin gender changer which came with the connectivity pack. It is not clear, if power is taken from the serial port or an external source. If power has to be taken from the serial port, we could get into trouble... but lets wait for the first products. No prices announced yet. If we have a bluetooth solution for the palmtop, then I'm very optimistic for the years to come. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 20:48:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? > The way these "software cops" go about it is differently: They > look at your disk drive. If you have software there without a > corresponding license, they have you. They don't care where > you d/l it from. > Of course they'll have to gain entry to your home or the > location where the machines are, they'll have to get a judge > to issue proper paperwork to let them check your machines, > etc. There are a few impediments in their way, but they have > been very successful so far. I do not know if they went up > against individuals, but possibly. I think their targets are > usually businesses misusing software. If you are unfortunate enough (like me) to have one of the newer computers which has a unique id number, verifiable via the net, then perhaps you are more vulnerable in the above respect (there has been long discussions about the fact that not only dishonest people, but also the government can snoop on what you do on the net, even if you move). Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:43:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Domingo wrote: > The way these "software cops" go about it is differently: They > look at your disk drive. If you have software there without a > corresponding license, they have you. This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very nervous about having someone snooping around to see if software is "legal." I don't trust them take a legal "registration" and keep it straight. I could easily see someone getting nailed for illegal software when it was purchased legally! You got out and buy the software, register it, and some 18 year old making minimum wage enters your registration information. What's to prevent you from getting nailed for illegal software because this 18 year old put in your name and/or address wrong? If these people are going to go around looking for "illegal" software then maybe software producers should start sending out certified letters to prove that they received my registration information. Over the years I have noticed that software companies are very sloppy in their record keeping. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:11:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pogo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pogo Subject: RadioMail software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08E36.AE5ECB00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08E36.AE5ECB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does any one have the RadioMail software for the 95lx or 100lx. I have = an old wireless modem and just want to see if it works ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08E36.AE5ECB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does any one have the RadioMail = software for the=20 95lx or 100lx. I have an old wireless modem and just want to see if it=20 works
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C08E36.AE5ECB00-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 23:42:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon wrote: > >Domingo wrote: > > The way these "software cops" go about it is differently: They > > look at your disk drive. If you have software there without a > > corresponding license, they have you. Hmmm... Looks like Domingo wrote this, but I think it was actually mine, no? > This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very nervous > about having someone snooping around to see if software is > "legal." If these "software license cops" have reason to think you have unlicensed software they will negotiate with you first, and if not successful, they go to court and get subpoenas. I heard anecdotally that they went after individuals, but never heard facts about that. Mostly they target companies - no need to panic... > I don't trust them take a legal "registration" and keep it straight. > I could easily see someone getting nailed for illegal software > when it was purchased legally! You got out and buy the software, > register it, and some 18 year old making minimum wage enters your > registration information. What's to prevent you from getting nailed > for illegal software because this 18 year old put in your name and/or > address wrong? Take two deep breaths, now exhale, relax, stop panicking. :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:29:11 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Compuserve calssic or 2000?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Friends, I currently have a compuserve classic account, but due to the limited support, I consider upgrading to CS2000. I don't really use the account, I only have it for the case when I'm on vacation and want to connect to the Internet with the palmtop when not in Germany. I only need it to CONNECT to the internet to get my email, I don't use the formums etc. So I also don't need the special software. My question is: If I upgrade to CS2000, will I still be able to connect to Compuserve with my LX and WWW/LX? I really would like to be up to date with Compuserve (i.e. upgrade to 2000), because I don't like surprises when it comes to reliability of Internet connections. But I HAVE to rely on my LX either... GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:45:09 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Sat, 3 Feb 2001 19:47:43 +0000, Stefan Peichl wrote: > BUT THE RS232 CONVERTER WORKS WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE!! > > Therefore it is restricted to 128000 baud and point to point > connections only. As they say, the converter can be plugged > onto any device with a RS232 port. It can only connect to one > device at a time. The advantage is, that it can be plugged into > any non-intelligent RS232 device and therefore gives true cable > replacement. That's exactly what I have heard on last CeBit in Hannover. There will be devices which you can connect to the serial port and the resulting link is totally transparent to the computer, i.e. it behaves exactly like a cable connection. No drivers or other software needed. Indeed, if these devices will be bowered by the port, we could get into trouble. But even then it should be possible t oattach en external source in some way. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:33:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very nervous > > about having someone snooping around to see if software is > > "legal." > > If these "software license cops" have reason to think you have > unlicensed software they will negotiate with you first, and if > not successful, they go to court and get subpoenas. I heard > anecdotally that they went after individuals, but never heard > facts about that. Mostly they target companies - no need to > panic... > But I have a small business which does make me worry...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:35:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve calssic or 2000?? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > My question is: If I upgrade to CS2000, will I still be able to connect > to Compuserve with my LX and WWW/LX? My understanding is...no. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 19:13:16 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Compuserve calssic or 2000?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel, > My question is: If I upgrade to CS2000, will I still be able to connect > to Compuserve with my LX and WWW/LX? Stay with Classic. CSi2000=3DAOL and needs proprietary software. You will not be able to use your HPLX and WWW/LX with CSi2000. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:28:16 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Breaking the law MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Barry wrote: >> I do think there are times when it's honorable >> to break laws and this is one. > > It is not honorable to break laws. Rosa Parks broke the law and transformed the country. I can't think of anyone in American history more deserving of honor. We should have statues of her breaking the law. What about the signers of the Declaration of Independance? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:37:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >The site that posted your software when you're so easy to > >contact may call itself an abandonware site but they're a warez > >site. If your software is shareware it doesn't matter. If it's not shareware but something you're selling it still doesn't matter. Anybody can post shareware. Anyone who posts a commercial product your selling is a thief. Not because he took something from you that you no longer have. But because we've decided collectively to call that theft. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:45:50 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A7C4BD9.6C8AD773@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore, Commercial is short-hand for privately owned/closed-source or, more simply, not open-source software. Software is covered by copyright and/or patent protection, depending on the rights the owner asserts (and is eligible for). Both protections are limited, but may be renewed (copyrights). It is my understanding that an unenforced protection has diminished value, but does not eliminate the rights of the owner. As a brief example, if I write a book, copyright protect it, and then *knowingly* refuse to assert that protection for a period of time, I may not at a later date decide to sue a violator of my copyright for damages. I never loose my rights, but I do my ability to collect... Of course, IANAL, but I have watched a lot of Law & Order on TV! ;¬) Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 1:20 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Abandonware Theodore Heise wrote: > There has been good discussion in this thread. Wrt Ed's comment, I wonder > if software that is no longer sold or supported is still truly "commercial." Regardless of whether it is commercial the software is still "intellectual property." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:45:45 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A7D9251.A1B307B9@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The *vast* majority of those investigated are composed of two groups: - Mfg. of illegal copies of software, typically off-shore CD-ROM factories selling *extremely* low-priced veriosn of well-known software, and - Employers "ratted" out by disgruntled current or former employees. I assume you do not fall in to the former category, and I hope you never fall into the second... Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:33 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? A Meshar wrote: > > This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very nervous > > about having someone snooping around to see if software is > > "legal." > > If these "software license cops" have reason to think you have > unlicensed software they will negotiate with you first, and if > not successful, they go to court and get subpoenas. I heard > anecdotally that they went after individuals, but never heard > facts about that. Mostly they target companies - no need to > panic... > But I have a small business which does make me worry...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:21:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Breaking the law Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > >> Barry wrote: > >> I do think there are times when it's honorable > >> to break laws and this is one. > > > > It is not honorable to break laws. > > Rosa Parks broke the law and transformed the country. I can't > think of anyone in American history more deserving of honor. We > should have statues of her breaking the law. I would not include people using stolen software in the same category as Roas Parks. What Rosa Parks did was honorable...using an illegal copy of xxxx software is not. Using an illegal copy of xxx software is stealing, what Rosa Parks did is not stealing. It is an insult to the civil rights movement to compare Rosa Parks with stealing software. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:16:24 -0500 Reply-To: norman.wolfe@verizon.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Norman Wolfe Subject: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications and to shift files to and from my 200LX (x2,32k) using a serial or ir connection. I also prefer to try out DOS software in a DOS box on my desktop prior to moving it to the 200. Win98 or Win2k? Your suggestions are appreciated. Norm Wolfe, Washington DC. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:50:27 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paulo Custodio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Subject: Super update Comments: cc: daniel.ginsberg@multicare.org, Jan Brands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A minor update was done to SUPER: - Travel01 was added - e-mail address of author of hpcrack was updated http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:14:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken Hansen wrote: > The *vast* majority of those investigated are composed of two > groups: > > - Employers "ratted" out by disgruntled current or > former employees. And of course we know that former employees never ever lie about their former employers. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:47:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Breaking the law Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My normal approach on this list is to say nothing if I can't say something nice. For this message I'm making an exception. Your distortion of what I'm saying is shamefully dishonest and I think you should think this over and consider apologizing. This will be my last post on this topic. I'm sorry I brought it up. I shouldn't have. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 3:21 PM Subject: Re: Breaking the law > Barry wrote: > > > >> Barry wrote: > > >> I do think there are times when it's honorable > > >> to break laws and this is one. > > > > > > It is not honorable to break laws. > > > > Rosa Parks broke the law and transformed the country. I can't > > think of anyone in American history more deserving of honor. We > > should have statues of her breaking the law. > > I would not include people using stolen software in the same category > as Roas Parks. What Rosa Parks did was honorable...using an > illegal copy of xxxx software is not. Using an illegal copy of xxx > software is stealing, what Rosa Parks did is not stealing. > > It is an insult to the civil rights movement to compare Rosa Parks with > stealing software. > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:52:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chris@AMLOG.DEMON.CO.UK Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Randle Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Longden Loo wrote: > As it is, a normal 9v has gotten me more than 6 months of moderate use > (mostly bedside use for looking at some email when the nightstand light > might disturb the missus). Now I mostly grab 9v discards from other Longden, What do you do with the light when you're reading? I have a Photon Micro-Light II. It has a switch to keep it on, but it still needs to be positioned to shine on the screen/keyboard. When I'm reading I hold it in one hand, but when I'm reading & typing I end up with the light in my mouth! Does the PAL light solve this problem? ---------- Chris Randle (chris@amlog.demon.co.uk) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:01:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Breaking the law Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > My normal approach on this list is to say nothing if I can't say > something nice. For this message I'm making an exception. Your > distortion of what I'm saying is shamefully dishonest and I > think you should think this over and consider apologizing. > > This will be my last post on this topic. I'm sorry I brought it > up. I shouldn't have. > I feel I have nothing to apologize for...you came up with the bad analogy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:05:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: norman.wolfe@verizon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Norman Wolfe wrote: > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications > and to shift files to and from my 200LX (x2,32k) using a > serial or ir connection. I also prefer to try out DOS > software in a DOS box on my desktop prior to moving it to > the 200. Win98 or Win2k? Your suggestions are appreciated. > > Norm Wolfe, Washington DC. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I am staying with win 98 for the time being...my understanding is win2000 gets rid of the option of booting to pure DOS. Under windows 98 I could boot to pure DOS and therefore use the connectivity pack. As far as I can tell Windows 2000 gets rid of that option. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 17:16:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Modem power-in polarity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi I have a Megahertz 14.4K Pocket Modem, Model P2144. Anyone know the required voltage when powered from the mains, and the necessary polarity? Failing this info, is it reasonable to assume that I can get the polarity(if not the required voltage)by putting a battery in it, then sticking a continuity tester into the "Mains-In" socket on the side? Thanks Neill __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:46:47 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Abandonware Ken Hansen writes: > Theodore, > Commercial is short-hand for privately owned/closed-source or, > more simply, not open-source software. Oh. I thought commercial had to do with commerce (buy or trade). Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:01:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , sponsor@FTEL.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Forgive me all for the lengthy quote - We have here two Kens (London and Hansen) who sign "Ken" - and a "royal" confusion with the quoting... In this message, Ken Hansen quotes a message Ken London wrote, in which he quoted me. Some how, the quoting seem to imply that I am concerned because I have a small business. This is not anything I wrote - but something Ken London wrote. Folks, it would be much more comforting if the quoting was shorter, and much more explicit so we know who quotes whom and who is getting the reply and who writes what. This is the second incident in two days... Please exercise more judicious quoting ... Thank you... Avi At 2/4/01 -0500, Ken Hansen wrote: >The *vast* majority of those investigated are composed of two >groups: > > - Mfg. of illegal copies of software, typically > off-shore CD-ROM factories selling *extremely* > low-priced veriosn of well-known software, and > > - Employers "ratted" out by disgruntled current or > former employees. > >I assume you do not fall in to the former category, and I hope >you never fall into the second... > >Ken > >-----Original Message----- >From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On >Behalf Of >Ken London >Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 12:33 PM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? > > >A Meshar wrote: > > > > This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very >nervous > > > about having someone snooping around to see if software is > > > "legal." > > > > If these "software license cops" have reason to think you have > > unlicensed software they will negotiate with you first, and if > > not successful, they go to court and get subpoenas. I heard > > anecdotally that they went after individuals, but never heard > > facts about that. Mostly they target companies - no need to > > panic... > > > >But I have a small business which does make me worry...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:36:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: "Bel, Michel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > you have to pay extra for using something illegally. Probably US law would > be harsher than my native Dutch law, where a proof to attempt to buy > something as intangible as abandonware might be considered sufficient to be > acquitted ( after paying for a single license ;-). You have reached an excellent conclusion - it is US law that governs a lot of this. And as a matter of fact, there are countries which do not recognize US Copyright law and it is in fact not a criminal act to "borrow" software in those countries. The US is trying to change that by 'friendly' persuasion but has not finished yet. Can anybody say WTO (a concerned but not protesting, Seattleite! (g)) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:36:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Barry wrote: > >I do think there are times when it's honorable > >to break laws and this is one. > > It is not honorable to break laws....that having > been said the software industry should Careful, there. The "I was only following orders..." does not work with immoral laws. But then again, the winner decides what WAS moral and/or legal! Do you think the "necessity defense" might prove useful? (G) I never remember, but what is the time limit when copyrights expire, if at all? I guess many of us will be dead! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:36:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >"Bel, Michel" wrote: > >Besides, I have used several 'abandonware' sites to recover software I own, > >but lost diskettes or whatever. > > Keep in mind you don't "own" the software...you own a "license" to use it. > The author "owns" the software. Actually, he might OWN some. The licensing "fiction" was introduced a few years into software publishing, I believe. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 04:59:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Compuserve calssic or 2000?? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I really would like to be up to date with Compuserve (i.e. upgrade to > 2000), because I don't like surprises when it comes to reliability of > Internet connections. > But I HAVE to rely on my LX either... CIS2000 is not an upgrade but an AOL-work-alike product from what I understand. You _MAY_ but able to use imap mail under cis2000 but I don't know the details. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:46:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: ST7868W Test Comments: To: List OB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sending this on my OB800CT hooked into the StarTac ST7868W. Simple! Connects at 19200. I can see why we need to keep messages to the point. Have not yet installed WWW/LX on my 200LX. I'm amazed. I even got on the internet with the ST7868W alone. Browsing and email cumbersome but can be done. If you are stuck on an elevator in NY city, maybe it would be a good deal to send mom an email for help. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 05:28:33 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: macros start from top card? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Avi and Mike and others Thanks for telling me that macros start from the top card all right... but not Ýyet¨ on my stubborn horse. Starting macros in applications is easily done via app.mngr - macro - record, but not via topcard - app.mngr - macro - record. It doesn't switch back to the topcard to start recording my macro. I have tried manually adding the beginning {Alt+8} but the horse just returns "Syntax error in macro" here is my Fn+F8 macro: {Alt+8}{F9}c:\_dat\quick.dat{Enter}{Appt}{Phone} {Alt+8} opens QuickView via MoreExm hotkey (Alan via Hiroyuki gun) {F9}c:\_dat\quick.dat{Enter} opens Quick.dat (Andreas via DaSoft) {Appt} opens Appointments {Phone} opens Phone now i manually do an Alt+8 and then start the macro with Fn+F8 Avi's macro {Filer}{More}f{More}{F6} for me is {Alt+5}p{F5} via TaskList from anywhere but topcard my topcard doesn't let me run macros here some news from French web-coppers (called pigs in the US) More than eight million new Web pages appear each day, which makes the Net an almost impossible place to police. Agence Virtuelle, however, has developed a team of software robots that are patrolling the Internet with the sole purpose of tracing idle or malicious gossip to its source. Not only will RumorBot allow detectives to track paedophile photographs traded on the Net, it will also help companies to identify a speculator who starts a rumour that affects share prices. http://www.newscientist.com/news/newsletter.jsp?id=ns227617 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 21:57:15 -0500 Reply-To: Ron Stalma Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Stalma Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Wordperfect 6.0 Dos, but you would not want it on the LX, way too slow. I had it running on my old 386 laptop, and it was, well slow there also, unless it was run in non-graphic mode. Why not look on ebay? Just for fun I did a search and found at least 15 auctions for WP Dos. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Menard" To: Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Abandonware > I called Corel to inquire about purchasing WordPerfect for Dos. They laughed > at me and told me to look on the net...they said there were sites with all > of these old titles. Maybe we could point out these sites for informtion > purposes? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 00:00:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: ST7868W Test Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert K. Meyer wrote: > I'm sending this on my OB800CT hooked into the StarTac ST7868W. > Simple! Connects at 19200. I can see why we need to keep > messages to the point. Have not yet installed WWW/LX on my > 200LX. I'm amazed. Try the WWW/LX on your Notebook if you want to see it get hot from the speed!!! ... You'll need CG.COM from Connectivity pack, or PALRUN from D&A's Website (FTP), or HP Staber has told me about PALMPC - but I am not sure it will server for the purpose of emulating Palmtop environment for the programs. > I even got on the internet with the ST7868W alone. Browsing and > email cumbersome but can be done. If you are stuck on an > elevator in NY city, maybe it would be a good deal to send mom > an email for help. If you could get through the building to send ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:54:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications I use Win98 on my desktop. I have had no major trouble with the Connectiv= ity Pack or with Transfile using the serial port. I have never tried Win2K Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:48:20 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Palmtop emulators MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable F. Kaufman wrote: > With Palrun I can run Post in small dos window, that is LESS than a = full > screen DOS window. I found that using Palmpc, I cannot switch to a > smaller dos window but am stuck at full screen. not here on my Win95 system. Palrun and Palmpc both allow for smaller DOS box windows. However I cannot start PE in a window, no matter which emulator I use. At startup Windows changes to full screen mode, but I can use Alt-Enter to go back to a DOS box window under Win95. I'm no Windows expert at all, but I always thought, that if a DOS program changes the screen mode, then Windows switches to a full screen DOS box, and you can go back to a window with Alt-Enter, if the selected screen mode of the DOS program is not better than standard VGA (16 colors). But I just tested it with LXPIC and it doesn't seem to be true. If you start LXPIC in a DOS box window, Win95 switches to full screen mode and you cannot use Alt-Enter because by default, LXPIC starts with 256 color VGA. But if you press F2 once, you put LXPIC into 16 color VGA and then you may use Alt-Enter to go back to a DOS box window. If you now press F2 again and again, you cycle through 320x200x256 VGA, EGA and CGA, but Win95 does not switch back to full screen mode every time you press F2. LXPIC really changes the screen mode, I should know it ;-) Strange, isn't it? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:08:38 -0600 Reply-To: cwbrad@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Charles W. Bradley" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET In-Reply-To: <200102051254.HAA18745@spdmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 5 Feb 2001, at 7:54, Steve Carder wrote: > > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications Hi, I use WIN2k and have found that it does a good job with DOS programs. Transfile works through a serial port just fine. I have SystemCommander installed to boot to DOS. Charles ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Emmanuel Presbyterian Chapel, Hohenwald, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@attglobal.net FAX (931)840-0679 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:17:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Er: Some success at flashcard partitions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mike Kopplin wrote: > I started looking at the problem of partitions on > a flashcard, and the elusive B: drive mentioned in the SDK. > > I have tried many different partitioning schemes, none of which > resulted in a B: drive on the LX. > Any suggestions? Well... Quoting MINIX on the HP200LX by Dr. Richard L. Dubs (last updated: July 1, 1998) ..... The software I have developed is provided on my web page (www.erols.com/rld) for download. ..... The HP200LX has built-in software that allows one to mount a DOS filesystem on a PCMCIA ATA Flash Disk as the A: drive; however, as far as I can tell, this software does not configure the Flash Disk as an I/O device - rather, it configures it as a memory-mapped device. ..... Once I had the HP200 Developer's Guide, the sample software that came with it, and a few good books on PCMCIA ÝRefs 3 and 4¨, it was a simple matter to figure out how to activate a PCMCIA Flash Disk as an I/O device so that I could use card just like a hard disk. The program CARDIO.EXE provided in my software package activates a PCMCIA card as an I/O device on the 200LX. ..... The program INT13.BIN provided in my software package is the INT13 Hard Disk Service and the batch file BOOT.BAT installs it on the 200LX. (My program requires the PCMCIA card be in the I/O mode; I am certain that somebody could write BIOS INT13 services to use the PCMCIA card in memory-mapped mode if they so desired.) ..... Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:30:19 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:05:57 -0500, Ken London wrote: > I am staying with win 98 for the time being...my understanding is > win2000 > gets rid of the option of booting to pure DOS. Under windows 98 I could > > boot to pure DOS and therefore use the connectivity pack. As far as I > can tell Windows 2000 gets rid of that option. You still have this option when you use a boot diskette, I think. Simply make a DOS7 boot diskette with your win95 or 98 (not with a DOS 6.2, because you won't have access to your FAT32 partitions then) and you can boot your Win2k machine to DOS. This is only theoretical - I never tried this nor do I know if Win2k uses still this FAT32 which was also used by Win9x. But if it does, it should work. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:41:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: macros start from top card? Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <004b01c08e64$0a6a8240$ee85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>here some news from French web-coppers (called pigs in the US) Police or law enforcement officer would have been a better choice of words and believe it or not we sometimes call them cops too. Actually I would be willing to say the term pigs in the reference you are trying to use it hasn't been used in a long while ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:25:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > What do you do with the light when you're reading? I have a > Photon Micro-Light II. It has a switch to keep it on, but it > still needs to be positioned to shine on the screen/keyboard. > When I'm reading I hold it in one hand, but when I'm reading > & typing I end up with the light in my mouth! Does the PAL > light solve this problem? Not really. I do as you do (and so do Maglight people), and the only real advantage is that the PAL light has a rubberized case so it's safer to hold it in your mouth. The downside is that it's bigger too (especially compared to the Photon), tho it'll run MUCH longer on its 9v cell compared to Photon on its lithium button cell. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:39:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Quoting (again) - was Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Folks, it would be much more comforting if the quoting was shorter, and > much more explicit so we know who quotes whom and who is getting the reply > and who writes what. > > This is the second incident in two days... Please exercise more judicious > quoting ... Amen to that! "Abandon-ware" shouldn't refer to our brains . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:45:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:18:32 -0600, Barry wrote: > I think we should have a discussion of abandonware on this list. > I'm not suggesting (yet) that we start passing around this > information. I'm suggesting that we have a discussion about it > to see how we feel about it. > > I also think that the list owner and the software vendors who > frequent this list should have veto power on this. The list owner certainly has veto power. I don't see why the software vendors should have any more say in this than any other member of the list. > On the other hand, abandonware is illegal and some people might > not feel comfortable on a list that discusses something illegal. > I think that should be respected. We need those people more > than we need information about abandonware. I am not a lawyer, but as far as I know, it is not illegal (in the US at least) to discuss activities that may be illegal. PROMOTION of illegal activities may be illegal, but not ordinary discussion of such activities. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:45:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:58:44 -0500, Mike Schneider wrote: > > I'm wondering why someone can't contract with a bona-fide manufacturer > of LCD screens to design and manufacture a backlit screen that would > work perfectly with the LX. The volume (number of screens sold per year) would be so small that the cost per screen would be much higher than any of us would be willing to pay. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:46:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: HPLX spotted on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:48:40 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > > Nice picture - still alive, for such a "dead machine" :-) ... But the > palmtop isn't multitasking. It can taskswitch though... With Desqview it > can possibly multitask, but results are probably not that hot. There are > probably other multi-tasking software around that might even run on the > Palmtop. The software on the Palmtop (system manager) is a classic > taskswitcher. Boy, you folks are a tough crowd. Give the kid a break. So he mis-stated that the LX was multi-tasking instead of task switching. And he may not have said it WAS a notebook, but had the power of a notebook. After all, he was making a comparison to a Game Boy. The LX _is_ more like a notebook computer than a Game Boy. Even you hard-nosed folks should agree. Stand back so you can see the forest instead of the trees. Vic ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:07:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Daniel Hertrich wrote: > > BUT THE RS232 CONVERTER WORKS WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE!! > > That's exactly what I have heard on last CeBit in Hannover. > There will be devices which you can connect to the serial port and the > resulting link is totally transparent to the computer, i.e. it behaves > exactly like a cable connection. No drivers or other software needed. Now I wonder if I could put one BT RS232 converter at the cable end of my external modem and another at the serial port of the palmtop and have wireless internet access from all rooms? FYI Bluetooth (=3DBT) specifies a 10m range and a 100m range. Indeed 100m devices need more power, hence we should look for low powered 10m converters. Complete BT boards have the size of a fingernail and should easily fit inside the palmtop. I'm dreaming of a doityourself kit at the level of the doublespeed upgrade. But an external solution with a serial port plug should also be available, raising once more the need of mold for the plug. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:37:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ken London wrote: > I am staying with win 98 for the time being...my understanding is > win2000 > gets rid of the option of booting to pure DOS. Under windows 98 I could > > boot to pure DOS and therefore use the connectivity pack. As far as I > can tell Windows 2000 gets rid of that option. Win 98 is DOS based. Essentially, a protected mode extender run over (and mostly replacing) DOS. Win 2000 is written from the ground up as a protected mode operating system. It supplies DOS emulation for DOS programs. There is no real MS-DOS supplied to boot to. That said, you could set up a multiple boot system to boot copies of any operating system you want. my old home system (at one time) was set up to try and boot DOS 6.20, Win 95, Win 98, OS/2 ver. 3, and OS/2 ver. 4. They are all still on the boot screen, but I think the Win 9X setups have died along the way. Other people do the same to evaluate Linux or Unix. And of course there is the old reliable boot from floppy option. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:40:01 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Stephan wrote: >The converter has the size of the original HP 9-pin gender >changer which came with the connectivity pack. It is not clear, >if power is taken from the serial port or an external source. Their website info says "power brick included", which I take to mean that it uses an external plug-in power source. Sounds like an interesting product. Thanks for posting the info. Bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:21:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Copyright protection MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As a brief example, if I write a book, copyright > protect it, and then *knowingly* refuse to assert > that protection for a period of time, I may not at > a later date decide to sue a violator of my > copyright for damages. I never loose my rights, > but I do my ability to collect... As I understand it failure to assert your ownership doesn't diminish your ability to go to court. But it makes it harder to win. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:45:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , GJColeman@CSI.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: George Coleman Subject: Re: Compuserve calssic or 2000?? Comments: To: d.hertrich@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are now using Post/LX with Compuserve, this should continue to work after you "upgrade," as long as you have one of the old-style numerical IDs. If all you need on the LX are POP Email and WWW/LX Internet access, those should still work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:08:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Archives updated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:06:48 -0500 (EST) Greetings All: I have updated the archived at the HPLX-L Control Center. I have also added the archives(Digest Format) from when Mitch ran the LIST back in 96/97. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:15:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Generic spare parts question Comments: To: omnibook@elektro.cmhnet.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a 56k Xircom credit card modem (CM56T) that I loaned to someone and it came back without the dongle. Does anyone have a good resource for dongles/cables and loose parts like this? Ebay occasionally lists them, but mostly they're selling the card+dongle, or else the dongle alone goes for a price that'd make me just pay the $19 that Xircom is asking for a new cable. Is there a bone-yard for stuff like this? Thanks. - Longden PS - this card was part of a packaged deal for my first 800CT, and I tried it out successfully on my 200LX (without frying it either), tho I'm mentioning this more as an "on-topic" item rather than as a recommendation. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:59:20 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain From the Nokia website I see that their bluetooth PC card that is used to talk to their phones (which also look a bit like they take a PC card in a modified battery housing) take 75mA running and 1.5mA idle. Of course drivers only for windows type o/s. So all we need is someone to write the (real-mode) DOS driver ;-) William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:15:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paulo Custodio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paulo Custodio Subject: HP-LX Perl modules (was Re: Group project) Comments: cc: Gerhard Gonter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gerhard Gonter wrote: > Is anyone using Perl on a regular basis on their desktop machines? > One of the reasons for me to work on the HP-LX Perl modules Ý1¨ is > to build such converters and converters. > > Ý1¨ http://hp200lx-db.sourceforge.net/ I do. I use them any time I need to do automated changes to a database (e.g. filling in a field with values from calculated from other fields). Thank you for the good work! Paulo __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:10:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Best of both worlds ... was Re: Comparing 200LX TO PALM Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's too bad! I'm still looking for ideas though. I don't want to migrate to a HP 790 or anything like that. Mike... Victor Roberts wrote: > The volume (number of screens sold per year) would be so small > that the cost per screen would be much higher than any of us > would be willing to pay. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:48:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Quoting (again) - was Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > "Abandon-ware" shouldn't refer to our brains . ROFL... Thanks for the moment of relief... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:19:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Dauphin Mini Keyboard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just received my new Dauphin Mini Keyboard from Extreme Computing, and it really is mini. The keys have a nice feel though, and the spacing is pretty good. I don't know how many they have left in stock, but they still have stock, if anyone is interested. Check out http://store.yahoo.com/xcom/daupminkey.html The keyboard has a PS2 keyboard connector. You'd have to get the keymate connector from Thaddeus, or butcher up the cable and get the drivers from Thaddeus. Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:58:33 -0600 Reply-To: "randys@tsmser.com" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Randy Simonson Organization: TSM Services, Inc. Subject: Keys don't work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of the keys on my 200LX are not working very well. I have to press on them real hard and sometimes several times before they show. The "a" and the "s" are the worst. Do I take it apart and clean the keys? Do I have to be careful of anything when I open it up? Is it time to go for a HP720 or a 200LX doublespeed, 32 or 64 MB (only have a 1 MB with a 20 MB card now)? Thanks, Randy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:13:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Carder wrote: > > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications > > I use Win98 on my desktop. I have had no major trouble with the Connectivity > Pack or with Transfile using the serial port. I have never tried Win2K > > Steven A. Carder M.D. > PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Don't upgrade to Win2k...you can't boot to a pure DOS session!!!!! You need the pure DOS session in order to use connectivity pack for the 200lx. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 07:24:37 +0800 Reply-To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Oldenhuis Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A7D9251.A1B307B9@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Helo Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Monday, 5 February 2001 1:33 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? A Meshar wrote: > > This type of servailance gives me the creeps. I get very nervous > > about having someone snooping around to see if software is > > "legal." > But I have a small business which does make me worry...... I dont see what the problem is running a small business I repair computers and I tell all customers to have legal sofware on thier business computer what they have on thier home computer that is thier problem but if you have it on your business computer you deserve to be caught The assosiation that is against illegal software offers $2000 dollars reward for dobbing them in. I hope this helps :) Cheers Harry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:36:33 -0600 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Where to buy WordPerfect 5.1+ (WAS:Re: Abandonware) In-Reply-To: <004201c08e56$2f673b00$da64c997@bubba> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I ran across this site which sells the disks only for WP 5.1+ for $35.00 with the condition that you own a later version of WP (a license from later version covers the older 5.1+ legally). If you need a license the cost jumps to $90. http://www.alphabest.com/ab/Wordperfect/index.htm Mike 7F00,0000,0000> I have Wordperfect 6.0 Dos, but you would not want it on the LX, way too > slow. I had it running on my old 386 laptop, and it was, well slow there > also, unless it was run in non-graphic mode. Why not look on ebay? Just for fun > I did a search and found at least 15 auctions for WP Dos. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Menard" < > Subject: Re: Abandonware 7F00,0000,0000> > > > I called Corel to inquire about purchasing WordPerfect for Dos. They > laughed > > at me and told me to look on the net...they said there were sites with all of > > these old titles. Maybe we could point out these sites for informtion > > purposes? > > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:57:02 -0600 Reply-To: Mack Baggette Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mack Baggette Organization: Times2 Tech Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.16.20010205092203.17875ef0@Server030.FWB.SAIC.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> I am staying with win 98 for the time being...my understanding is >> win2000 >> gets rid of the option of booting to pure DOS. Under windows 98 I could >> >> boot to pure DOS and therefore use the connectivity pack. As far as I >> can tell Windows 2000 gets rid of that option. You can run a DOS VMWare session under W2K, but I haven't tried it in terms of serial port communication. In that case you can run whatever DOS version you want at the same time W2K is running. Cheers, Mack mailto:mack@times2tech.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:08:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Who has the Lotus-Discettes? Comments: To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry Oldenhuis wrote: > I dont see what the problem is running a small business > I repair computers and I tell all customers to have legal sofware on thier > business computer what they have on thier home computer that is thier > problem > but if you have it on your business computer you deserve to be caught > The assosiation that is against illegal software offers $2000 dollars reward > for dobbing them in. > I hope this helps :) > Cheers Harry Because I don't trust companies to have their records straight. I currently own a legal copy of a popular accounting package and the company that creates the software has records that are so screwed up that I don't want them saying anything about who has a legal copy of their software. If they are going to make noise about who has legal copies of their software then I want something in writing from them confirming receipt of my registration information. Their record keeping is especially troubling because the software was ordered directly from them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:26:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Hertrich wrote: > You still have this option when you use a boot diskette, I think. > Simply make a DOS7 boot diskette with your win95 or 98 (not with a DOS > 6.2, because you won't have access to your FAT32 partitions then) and > you can boot your Win2k machine to DOS. This is only theoretical - I > never tried this nor do I know if Win2k uses still this FAT32 which was > also used by Win9x. But if it does, it should work. I would make sure this works before switching to Win2K, also you should be sure you want to go to the trouble of using a boot disk every time you run connectivity pack. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:48:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , pogo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: pogo Subject: HP 95lx questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C08F9B.E7A30FA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C08F9B.E7A30FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The scale says there is a 1/4 battery life left. Should I get a low = battery warniing? 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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C08F9B.E7A30FA0-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:23:38 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi all, Having seen the recent posts on torchlights using LEDs, is it possible to improvise our own by using a spoilt bulb, remove all the glass and innards, and solder a suitable LED to the metal base (positive and negative) which can then be used as a LED replacement bulb in an ordinary torchlight. What is the maximum volt/current that LEDs will take before they blow. Is there any site that has information on specs and ratings for LEDs ? And looking at the LED light for the HP200LX that Daniel Hertrich made at http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight/ , would it be possible to do away with the circuit board, and just use a stiff wire that has two separate insulated wires inside it, and solder them to pins 3 and 5 of the improvised connector. The other unused connector pins can be cut off to prevent short circuit. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:40:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Teo Soon Bock wrote: > > Hi all, > > Having seen the recent posts on torchlights using LEDs, is it possible to > improvise our own by using a spoilt bulb, remove all the glass and innards, > and solder a suitable LED to the metal base (positive and negative) which > can then be used as a LED replacement bulb in an ordinary torchlight. > Sure, you could do that, but you need a current limiting resistor. > What is the maximum volt/current that LEDs will take before they blow. Is > there any site that has information on specs and ratings for LEDs ? About 20mA is typical. > > And looking at the LED light for the HP200LX that Daniel Hertrich made at > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight/ , would it be possible to do away > with the circuit board, and just use a stiff wire that has two separate > insulated wires inside it, and solder them to pins 3 and 5 of the > improvised connector. The other unused connector pins can be cut off to > prevent short circuit. Try this site to start... http://www.misty.com/people/don/ledx.html and this http://ledmuseum.home.att.net/ Bryan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:42:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: Generic spare parts question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longden, > I have a 56k Xircom credit card modem (CM56T) that I loaned to someone = and > it came back without the dongle. > > Does anyone have a good resource for dongles/cables and loose parts = like > this? Do a search on google.com for "PCMCIA modem cables". I found several places that sell just dongles. Sorry, I don't have the website handy at the moment, but I found one for an old generic 56k card modem that I have. Try your search at http://www.google.com (btw... this search engine works very well with HV) Marc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 00:20:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Generic spare parts question In-Reply-To: <200102060242.SAA13110@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Does anyone have a good resource for dongles/cables and loose parts > > like this? > > Do a search on google.com for "PCMCIA modem cables". I found several > places that sell just dongles. Sorry, I don't have the website handy > at the moment, but I found one for an old generic 56k card modem that > I have. Try your search at http://www.google.com (btw... this search > engine works very well with HV) Thanks, I'll bookmark that search engine ... it looks minimal (which suits my tastes) but efficient. Looks like it turned up a couple of places that sell the dongle, but at a higher price than Xircom ($19 at Xircom's site) ... hey, nobody ever called me a big spender ). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:35:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini Keyboard Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Schneider wrote: > Just received my new Dauphin Mini Keyboard from Extreme Computing, and > it really is mini. The keys have a nice feel though, and the spacing is > pretty good. I don't know how many they have left in stock, but they > still have stock, if anyone is interested. Check out > http://store.yahoo.com/xcom/daupminkey.html > > The keyboard has a PS2 keyboard connector. You'd have to get the keymate > connector from Thaddeus, or butcher up the cable and get the drivers > from Thaddeus. > > Mike... I have a Dauphin Mini Keyboard, got a KeyMate from Thaddeus, tried that route. Then finally went with the Jornada keyboard from Thaddeus. Much much better IMO. The Jornada keyboard has a much better feel than the Dauphin keyboard, and the whole Jornada setup is simpler and more reliable than the Keymate/Dauphin setup. For me at least the Jornada keyboard was well worth the extra money. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:24:32 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Palmtop emulators Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > F. Kaufman wrote: > > > With Palrun I can run Post in small dos window, that is LESS than a full > > screen DOS window. I found that using Palmpc, I cannot switch to a > > smaller dos window but am stuck at full screen. > > not here on my Win95 system. Palrun and Palmpc both allow for > smaller DOS box windows. However I cannot start PE in a window, > no matter which emulator I use. At startup Windows changes to > full screen mode, but I can use Alt-Enter to go back to a DOS > box window under Win95. > > I'm no Windows expert at all, but I always thought, that if a > DOS program changes the screen mode, then Windows switches to a > full screen DOS box, and you can go back to a window with > Alt-Enter, if the selected screen mode of the DOS program > is not better than standard VGA (16 colors). Alt-ENTER will not allow me out of full-screen mode but I'm not dos-windows' expert either. I just discovered something though which does not help but is also odd! The dos box that I generally run in has it set to "not detect windows." This dos box will not allow Alt-enter to work even though the same dos box works for Palrun. But I just opened a dos-box which does not have that "do not detect windows" setting and while it allowed me to create a smaller window using Alt-Enter, I got that error message "this program is graphic (or some such) and cannot run in a window and will be suspended until run in full-screen mode again!" Until I entered Alt-Enter again, it would INACTIVE. I also notice that almost no matter what I do, when I start any of these hp emulated programs in windows that they open full screen but will sometimes allow me to change to a smaller window using Alt-Enter. On some occasions, which I cannot figure out, they do open in a small window but it is rare. It is usually associated with me clicking the mouse somewhere else on the windows' desktop just as the program is starting and it will be a window and not full screen. I've tried getting that behavior in a batch file but cannot do it. I've even tried a few windows' scripting and macro programs to change/move/resize those windows or reduce the full screen and they don't work reliably! So many mysteries so little time!!! (G) I'm using win98se by the way. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 04:24:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Don't upgrade to Win2k...you can't boot to a pure DOS session!!!!! > > You need the pure DOS session in order to use connectivity pack for the 200lx. NOT TRUE. I use the Connectivity Pack in a dos window under win98. I do not reboot to a sole dos session. Now that does not mean some folks don't have problems and like other windows' problems - who knows why or what causes them. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:03:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "F. Kaufman" wrote: > NOT TRUE. I use the Connectivity Pack in a dos window under win98. I > do not reboot to a sole dos session. How do you do that? The only way I could get connectivity pack to work is to go into a pure dos session from win 98 (start, shutdown, restsart in ms-dos mode). Just going to ms-dos prompt did not allow the connectivity pack to work. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Jan 1980 00:34:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications You could create two primary partitions - the first running DOS in a FAT16 environment and the second running Win2k. Win2k would automatically install a boot manager which would give you the choice of DOS or Win2K boot. You should install Win2k using FAT32 instead of the WinNT filesystem in order to be able to access the partitions in both systems. My IT people swear on Win2K and dislike W95, W98 and WinME. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:36:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > I am upgrading my desktop and will install either Win 98 or > > > Win2K, but I want to continue to use App 200 applications > > > > I use Win98 on my desktop. I have had no major trouble with the = Connectivity > > Pack or with Transfile using the serial port. I have never tried = Win2K > > > > Steven A. Carder M.D. > > PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Don't upgrade to Win2k...you can't boot to a pure DOS session!!!!! > > You need the pure DOS session in order to use connectivity pack for the = 200lx. Do you? Pure DOS might be necessary to install CPACK200, I don't know. Here CPACK200 is working fine on my WIN2K installation. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:05:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, -----Original Message----- From: Ken London To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? >"F. Kaufman" wrote: > >> NOT TRUE. I use the Connectivity Pack in a dos window under win98. I >> do not reboot to a sole dos session. There is a fundemental difference between Windows 95/98 vs. Windows NT/2000. The difference is that in a DOS box in 95/98 a program can touch hardware and basicall do many things that could be done from pure DOS. NT/2000 does not allow that, hence many pure DOS programs that touch hardware won't work. There are some exceptions, say programs use comm1 or comm2. I don't know what else. > >How do you do that? The only way I could get connectivity pack to work >is to go into a pure dos session from win 98 (start, shutdown, restsart in ms-dos >mode). >Just going to ms-dos prompt did not allow the connectivity pack to work. Under Windows 95, it is cpack that doesn't want to work, not that 95 prevented it. You need to go into the 'property box', 'program tab', 'Advance' button, and check 'Prevent MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows'. At least that's how I got mine to work under 95/98. Note the laplink only works within that DOS box. Explorer does not see the LX's drives. Alfred > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:05:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: CPack on Win9x & New Win9x Menu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have successfully run Cpack on my Win98 system without any problem whatsoever. My settings under the property tab are all default settings, ie: Program/Advanced:Suggest MS DOS Mode As Necessary. Font:Both font types Memory:Auto (all 4 boxes); check Uses HMA Screen:Full Screen, Size:Default; all other boxes checked Misc:Allow Screen Saver; Termination:Warn if not active Other:Allow fast pasting;Windows shortcut keys:All checked. BTW, I ran across a great program for those of us who detest icons and the inevitable clutter of the Win desktop. Called Quick Menu v3.0.1.9 by Malcolm Pescod: http://home.freeuk.net/mpescod The program is free (charityware). Creates a vertical menu bar on the right side. Since the program simply creates shortcuts to shortcuts, suggest you create a new folder on the desktop called Shortcuts. Drag every icon on your screen to that folder. You should be left with My Computer, My Documents, Recycle Bin and Shortcuts icons only. Install Quick Menu per the installer that comes with it. I installed to c:\windows\qmenu for the directory. Run Menu.exe to start the program. Right click on the top of the menu column and click Options. Set your preferences for background color, font, etc. Open the new shortcuts folder and simply drag each item to the menu column. You can create menu headings and submenus. If a particular item won't run as expected from the menu, right click on it and check the "action" selection. Apps should be set to 'Open', dial-ups set to 'Connect', etc. The only downside to using Quick Menu is that it is still mouse driven, the cursor keys do not move the highlight bar up and down the menu column. On the other hand, all menu items are simple text - no icons, no graphics, etc. When you move the mouse off the menu it quickly shrinks to the right and becomes a thin red vertical line on the right side of the screen. Moving the mouse over to that line expands the menu. If you loathe icons, you'll love Quick Menu. I've already contacted the author and asked if he would consider making some improvements to the program to allow full keyboard control of the menu. We'll have to wait and see what his reply is. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:03:37 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brown, William wrote: > >From the Nokia website I see that their bluetooth PC card that is used = to > talk to their phones (which also look a bit like they take a PC card in = a > modified battery housing) take 75mA running and 1.5mA idle. Of course > drivers only for windows type o/s. > > So all we need is someone to write the (real-mode) DOS driver ;-) Until now it is not clear at all, if a Bluetooth PCMCIA or Compact flash card will work in the palmtop. It depends on how the card identifies itself and after which PCMCIA specification it is designed. Please note that the palmtop only supports a subset of standard PCMCIA, because the palmtop was brought to market some time before the standard was released. For example, I don't believe, that a BT PCMCIA cards identifies itsself as a modem card, but I don't know. Anyway, if it is not a known card type for LXCIC, quite some information and knowledge is needed to implement BT cards into LXCIC, just the same way as Rod Whitby did it for network cards. Only if this problem is solved, we may think of a BT software stack for the palmtop. This will be a major challenge for one of the programmers of this list, at the level of IrDA implementation. Andreas Garzotto did IrDA, but I'm not sure, if he would do it or anything similar again. Just think for a moment what has to be done to handle a multipoint connections on the palmtop. For example, the palmtop could have a BT connection to a mobile phone and at the same time a BT connection to a desktop and a printer... These protocols of today are specified by all major players in the market and are anything else but straight forward and what one would expect after 20 years of experience in the field. In other words: They are HORRIBLE. I got my lesson while writing the PDU converter. One would think you just have to translate a 160 char ascii string to another format and add some adress information and ready is the resulting PDU. Can you believe that there are 4 headers with 4 different codings schemes required just to send 160 bytes over GSM? Plus an 8bit to 7bit compression which drove me crazy. No, I'm glad to see a possible BT solution for the palmtop through the serial port without the need of any additional software. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:32:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Complete BT boards have the size of a fingernail and should > easily fit inside the palmtop. I'm dreaming of a doityourself > kit at the level of the doublespeed upgrade. But an external > solution with a serial port plug should also be available, > raising once more the need of mold for the plug. > As a mold for the serial port plug, can you use the inside of the 10pin <->4pin adapter? Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:58:24 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Good Bluetooth News In-Reply-To: from "Bruce Martin" at Feb 06, 2001 10:32:41 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > But an external > > solution with a serial port plug should also be available, > > raising once more the need of mold for the plug. > > > > As a mold for the serial port plug, can you use the inside of the 10pin > <->4pin adapter? Don't forget the fellow from the Purple Phrank project - he has volunteered to help us out before. If only we can find the internal pieces to make the connector. This was a few years ago, he would have to be contacted once more to confirm his willingness to help. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:32:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Re: Palmtop friendly sites/modem offer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi In using my Jornada 548, I have come across 3 possibly useful "Palmtop-friendly" web pages.....meaning they are mostly text-only, and load fast. They contain tons of links to many, many similar sites. A by product is that they fit the screen orientation of the PocketPC perfectly(usually), though that may not be of significance to LX'ers at all. Anyway, check them out: http://members.home.net/bjbyrne/ http://www.shorecom.com/palmsites.html http://members.bellatlantic.net/~blumax/plinkit/ Secondly, I have an as-new Microlin Pocket modem, with docs/power supply(runs on a 9v battery too), and cables/box. It is about the size of a poker deck. It is very confusing reading the docs: I have little idea what the speed of the thing is, either 14.400 or less, and I haven't a computer to test its operation with at the moment, so I can't guarrantee that it actually works(swear it has only been out of the wrapping a couple of times though)? Anyway, it is surplus to my requirements, and I will be happy to pass it on for $5.50 + $4.50 shipping, or preferably simply exchange it for a "piece of computing memorabilia"( each person being responsible for their own shipping then). Please contact me off-list with any offers..........Neill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:38:26 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Teo, On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:23:38 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > And looking at the LED light for the HP200LX that Daniel Hertrich made at > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight/ , would it be possible to do away > with the circuit board, and just use a stiff wire that has two separate > insulated wires inside it, and solder them to pins 3 and 5 of the > improvised connector. The other unused connector pins can be cut off to > prevent short circuit. Sure. As long as you make sure that the light is easily pullable out of the serial port again without damaging the whole thing. The circuit board doesn't have another function than holding all the parts together. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:38:27 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX Comments: To: Bryan Biggers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Bryan and Teo, On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 20:40:06 -0600, Bryan Biggers wrote: > Sure, you could do that, but you need a current limiting > resistor. I don't know the light you all are speaking of, but as long as you power the LED via the serial port of the palmtop, no resistor is needed, because the driver chip of the serial port has current limiting resistors built-in. You can theoretically short-circuit any pair of pins of the port for any time and nothering will happen. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:44:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Another source for "old" software In-Reply-To: <20010205043654.GLRW29713.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just FYI (in light of the "abandonware" traffic I've seen), There's a source for "recycled" software, some with licenses; some w/o at: http://www.recycledsoftware.com As an example, they're listing Word Perfect 5.1 at $89 w/o a license and $119 with one. I think they buy disks/CDs/books and resell them. I have no connection w/ them and don't remember buying anything from them; so I don't know their reputation; maybe someone else here has some experience w/ them? HTH, --ttr ---------------- Tim Raymond -- Public Relations, etc. -- Killeen TX email: palmtop@n-link.com Ý mailto:palmtop@n-link.com ¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:47:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: WordStar 5.5 questions.... In-Reply-To: <20010205043654.GLRW29713.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does WS 5.5 run in DOS and on the LX? and Does anyone know where I could get a copy? I have a receipt for purchase (listed in the itemized columns on an old laptop purchase) and would like a corporate contact to get "replacement disks" ... Didn't WordStar get absorbed by someone a long time ago? TIA, --tim ---------------- Tim Raymond -- Public Relations, etc. -- Killeen TX email: palmtop@n-link.com Ý mailto:palmtop@n-link.com ¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:19:40 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini Keyboard Comments: To: Evan Person In-Reply-To: <3A7F7117.5678484F@mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evan Did you every try the Newton Keyboard combo? Is the Jornada keyboard more reliable than that arrangement? The Newton keyboard used to lock up now and then or it would freeze embarrassingly while beeping continuously. Very embarrassing in a university library (cringe). TIA Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Evan Person Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2001 16:36 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini Keyboard Mike Schneider wrote: > Just received my new Dauphin Mini Keyboard from Extreme Computing, and > it really is mini. The keys have a nice feel though, and the spacing is > pretty good. I don't know how many they have left in stock, but they > still have stock, if anyone is interested. Check out > http://store.yahoo.com/xcom/daupminkey.html > > The keyboard has a PS2 keyboard connector. You'd have to get the keymate > connector from Thaddeus, or butcher up the cable and get the drivers > from Thaddeus. > > Mike... I have a Dauphin Mini Keyboard, got a KeyMate from Thaddeus, tried that route. Then finally went with the Jornada keyboard from Thaddeus. Much much better IMO. The Jornada keyboard has a much better feel than the Dauphin keyboard, and the whole Jornada setup is simpler and more reliable than the Keymate/Dauphin setup. For me at least the Jornada keyboard was well worth the extra money. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:41:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Puscher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Puscher Subject: More Emulators Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" With the recent thread about emulators, I thought I'd try a different emulator to run PE on my NT desktop at work. I've been using PalRun and have had problems getting PE to do "advanced" things like the PIM search using Boolean expressions. With PalRun the screen got colorful squares all over it and I'd have to ESC and start over. I thought it was just some NT weirdness and didn't do those kinds of things on my desktop. Tried PalmPC and got similar results. The screen turned blank, but didn't crash. INT5F, however, works fine and allows the Boolean search without a crash. Might be worth a look for others trying to run PAL programs on their desktops. Don ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:31:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem Comments: To: John.A.Ogren.80303@ATTGLOBAL.NET, dpuscher@Qualcomm.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the feedback on the qualcomm and the modem. I ended up buying a "Data on the Go" modem on Ebay for $39, and it works like a charm. I would think the best way to help other LXers is to put the information that you sent me into a FAQ and put it up on one of the LX web sites. I for one didn't know the modem only drew 150mA, or I would have tried it sooner. Thanks John. I still don't know why the connectivity cable (the cable that has a serial plug on one end and the phone plug on the other) doesn't work. I went to Verizon, and I have the CDMA service turned on. I did the obvious like switch the com port, made sure the baud rate matched,etc... but nothing. If someone gets that working I'd love to see the details on a FAQ or a page somewhere. Someone wrote me with an 860 that is having the same problems that I am. So we still are looking for answers. BTW, Don's pointer to the user guide was excellent. Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:42:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Qualcomm 820 as an LX modem In-Reply-To: <3A806D4C.E1A20D51@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Mike Schneider wrote: > it sooner. Thanks John. I still don't know why the connectivity cable > (the cable that has a serial plug on one end and the phone plug on the > other) doesn't work. I went to Verizon, and I have the CDMA service > turned on. I did the obvious like switch the com port, made sure the > baud rate matched,etc... but nothing. If someone gets that working I'd > love to see the details on a FAQ or a page somewhere. Someone wrote me > with an 860 that is having the same problems that I am. So we still are > looking for answers. No experience with Qualcommhere, but I did have conniptions trying to get my Motorola ST7868W to work with my 200LX. In the end it turned out to be a faulty Motorola data cable. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:44:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Keys don't work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Randy Simonson Ýmailto:randys@TSMSER.COM¨ > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 4:59 PM > > Some of the keys on my 200LX are not working very well. I > have to press on > them real hard and sometimes several times before they show. > The "a" and the "s" are the worst. > Do I take it apart and clean the keys? Do I have to be > careful of anything when I open it up? Yesterday morning, my 200LX slipped from my pocket to the floor (only about 20 inches at the time) and ever since, there have been a number of iffy keys. The most troubling ones are the , , , and keys, although sometimes the key and arrow keys don't work either. Fortunately I remembered that the key sequence for an Escape from my video terminal days was -<Ý> (that is, Control-Left-Bracket) and it has worked, although it takes a three key combination of Shift-Ctrl-7 on the palmtop. This has happened to me in the past, and it had always managed to correct itself before. This time, I may grow too impatient to just wait it out. I have never cleaned inside my keyboard before but I'm thinking of trying it soon. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:07:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Alfred Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Alfred Lee wrote: > Under Windows 95, it is cpack that doesn't want to work, not > that 95 prevented it. You need to go into the 'property box', > 'program tab', 'Advance' button, and check 'Prevent > MS-DOS-based programs from detecting Windows'. At least > that's how I got mine to work under 95/98. This works fine. I had nOT chacked the Prevent box in Win98 and it still worked. What I am unable to do is run it in a small window - it run only maximized and taking the full screen, not in a window... :-< I wish I could make it work in a smaller window. Do you know a trick for that? Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:37:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Fluff: Email snooping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI > > "For those still harboring the illusion that e-mail exchanges are > private, a watchdog group has uncovered a new trick that enables > someone to essentially bug an e-mail message so that the spy would be > privy to any comments that a recipient might add as the message is > forwarded to others or sent back and forth......" > http://partners.nytimes.com/2001/02/05/technology/05JAVA.html > > Remember, turn off HTML and Java scripts on your email application. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:42:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>You can theoretically short-circuit any pair of >>pins of the port for any time and nothering will happen. A standard pc serial port is pretty robust they are designed to be immune from any pin shorting to any other. The most common problem I see from my customers comes after a good thunderstorm and the building takes a lightning strike with the pc and cnc machine turned on, almost for sure gonna kill the one or the other of the two serial ports. The other thing we see once in a while is a cable in the cnc machine breaks and shorts 220 on to one of the serial port wires, I love it when that happens! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:03:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff: Email snooping Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fryday wrote: > > "For those still harboring the illusion that e-mail exchanges are > > private, a watchdog group has uncovered a new trick that enables > > someone to essentially bug an e-mail message so that the spy would be > > privy to any comments that a recipient might add as the message is > > forwarded to others or sent back and forth......" > > http://partners.nytimes.com/2001/02/05/technology/05JAVA.html I would add that a recent survey found that 70% of companies routinely monitor the e-mail of their employees. Before you complain about privacy remember that the company owns the computer the e-mail is on and the courts allow companies to do this monitoring. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:49:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: More on WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote to WordPerfect support today with questions about the availability of DOS versions and received this reply: > Unfortunately, WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS has been discontinued for some > time and is no longer sold by Corel. We do not carry replacement parts > or revisions as all old stock has been depleted. ... > However if you require the software to run under the DOS operating > system, I can suggest outlets like Alphabest, and Ebay for locating > licensed copies of this product. He didn't mention 6.x. See also: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/links.html http://www.alphabest.com/ab/Wordperfect/index.htm Lotsa good stuff! Regards, Richard Smith -- Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:31:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Fluff: Email snooping Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Complain? Who said anything about complaining? I just sent it over so that you guys know about it, that's all. As for company monitoring e-mail, that's usually for corporate e-mail. I've long stopped using corporate email systems for private emailing. Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Fryday" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Fluff: Email snooping > Fryday wrote: > > > > "For those still harboring the illusion that e-mail exchanges are > > > private, a watchdog group has uncovered a new trick that enables > > > someone to essentially bug an e-mail message so that the spy would be > > > privy to any comments that a recipient might add as the message is > > > forwarded to others or sent back and forth......" > > > http://partners.nytimes.com/2001/02/05/technology/05JAVA.html > > I would add that a recent survey found that 70% of companies routinely > monitor the e-mail of their employees. > > Before you complain about privacy remember that the company owns the > computer the e-mail is on and the courts allow companies to do this > monitoring. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:02:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: More on WordPerfect, Part 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are a few (more) reasons why I LOVE WordPerfect for DOS!: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/wpdos/undoc.html Richard Smith -- Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:23:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: More on WordPerfect In-Reply-To: <3A80B7C5.8E1E04E2@freeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is my understanding that if you have a license for WordPerfect for any version greater than 5.1, you are entitled to use 5.1+ or lower using your license for the other version. Keep in mind that WP for DOS will install with no license number available, but the license number is (was) required for support. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:54:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Dauphin Mini Keyboard Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Kan wrote: > Evan > Did you every try the Newton Keyboard combo? Is the Jornada > keyboard more reliable than that arrangement? The Newton > keyboard used to lock up now and then or it would freeze > embarrassingly while beeping continuously. Very embarrassing in > a university library (cringe). > TIA > Tony. I have never tried the Newton Keyboard, so I don't know about reliability comparison. The Jornada keyboard is *much* more reliable (at least on my 2MB 200LX) than the KeyMate with external keyboard. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:50:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: ST7868W Test Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > Try the WWW/LX on your Notebook if you want to see it get hot > from the speed!!! ... You'll need CG.COM from Connectivity > pack, or PALRUN from D&A's Website (FTP), or HP Staber has > told me about PALMPC - but I am not sure it will server for > the purpose of emulating Palmtop environment for the programs. I finally installed WWW/LX... on my desktop that is -- Win95 DOS. Used PALRUN to set it up and run it. It is a bit overwhelming on an 17" monitor. This setup may just be the ticket for some visually impaired if no one had ever thought of it. Got lots to learn, one of the first is the menu key in PALRUN so I can exit gracefully. My 9600 WorldPort is a bit slow but is better than a 2400! Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:53:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > and it still worked. What I am unable to do is run it in a > small window - it run only maximized and taking the full > screen, not in a window... :-< I wish I could make it work in > a smaller window. > Do you know a trick for that? I have tweaked and prodded app200.bat in many different ways. I thought I had a tweak and I did but have 'x' it out. I just ran one of my "frankenstein" versions from ages ago - I substituted palrun for the emulator in app200 and the opening of cpack was able to be reduced to a smaller window. But in black/white rather than the normal (I think) blue/white. But then when I tried running Filer, I got horizontal lines and a total lockup. It maybe that each app needs palrun??? Care to continue the experiments and create the wife of frankenstein? (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:54:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > > NOT TRUE. I use the Connectivity Pack in a dos window under win98. I > > do not reboot to a sole dos session. > > How do you do that? Magic which probably explains a lot about the mystery that is windows!!!! But where does yours fail? Totally, implosion, windows' error message? Other? But maybe it has to do with something that I may or may not have tweaked ages ago. I have for Properties on the Program Tab, Advanced "Prevent MSdos programs from detecting windows" So to the potential boredom of everyone I will post what I use as my app200.bat file: -------------- begin batch file ------------------- c: cd c:\cpack200 @ECHO OFF goto el4 un200.exe -V1 IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12 IF errorlevel 11 GOTO EL11 IF errorlevel 9 GOTO EL9 IF errorlevel 8 GOTO EL8 IF errorlevel 4 GOTO EL4 IF errorlevel 1 GOTO EL1 IF errorlevel 0 GOTO EL0 :EL4 IF "%1"=="" GOTO PARMNO IF "%2"=="" GOTO PARMONE tkernel.exe %1=%2 GOTO RUNCG :PARMONE tkernel.exe %1 GOTO RUNCG :PARMNO tkernel.exe :RUNCG cg.com /Q ;removed on 01/10/00 rem cgagraph ee launcher.com rem cgagraph ee cg.com /Q ; removed on 01/10/00 un200.exe -C IF errorlevel 12 GOTO EL12 IF errorlevel 9 GOTO EL9 IF errorlevel 8 GOTO EL8 IF errorlevel 4 GOTO EL4A IF errorlevel 1 GOTO EL1A IF errorlevel 0 GOTO EL0A CLS GOTO END :EL12 ECHO APP200: Another program has occupied INT 7EH or 7FH. Please ECHO remove it and try again. GOTO END :EL11 ECHO APP200: Insufficient Memory GOTO END :EL9 ECHO APP200: Invalid option specified GOTO END :EL8 ECHO APP200: Only one option is allowed (-c or -v) GOTO END :EL1 :EL0 ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR is already loaded. APP200 can not be run. ECHO Try typing EXIT to return to APP200. GOTO END :EL4A ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not loaded. A serious error has occurred. GOTO END :EL1A ECHO APP200: CPACK200 TSR was not unloaded. A serious error has occurred. GOTO END :EL0A :END ----------------------------- end batch file ------------------ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:44:04 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Goin Postal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Steve Lawson's email address seems to have changed. My mail to support@sdl.continet.com is being returned I hope someone on the list can help. I've attempted setting up GP3, but have a problem. My ISP uses dynamic IP addressing so I have to use 0.0.0.0 as its URL. I seem to connect and negotiate, then have a problem with resolving the POP3 Server. Message returned is ICMP "Port Unreachable" Any suggestions? Please reply to: honey@nznet.gen.nz Tks Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:16:55 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Goin Postal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe yuo are somewhat mistaken. The dynamic address from the isp is the one you are allocated, for the time of the connexion. The IP address you have to complete in the "locale" is the primary and secondary address of your ISP, and this one is permanent, AFAIK S.Lawson has stopped supporting GP (what a pity) but kindly published a version(5) that doesn't require registering. See Super, I suppose. HTH Etienne Goin' Postal - HP 100/200LX (v4.03) REGISTERED ----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle Honey To: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 08:44 AM Subject: Goin Postal > Steve Lawson's email address seems to have changed. My mail to > support@sdl.continet.com is being returned > > I hope someone on the list can help. > > I've attempted setting up GP3, but have a problem. > > My ISP uses dynamic IP addressing so I have to use 0.0.0.0 as its URL. > > I seem to connect and negotiate, then have a problem with resolving the > POP3 Server. > Message returned is ICMP "Port Unreachable" > > Any suggestions? > > Please reply to: honey@nznet.gen.nz > Tks > > > Craig Honey > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:19:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:45:50 -0500, Ken Hansen wrote: > Both protections are limited, but may be renewed (copyrights). > It is my understanding that an unenforced protection has > diminished value, but does not eliminate the rights of the > owner. > > As a brief example, if I write a book, copyright protect it, and > then *knowingly* refuse to assert that protection for a period > of time, I may not at a later date decide to sue a violator of > my copyright for damages. I never loose my rights, but I do my > ability to collect... I am not a lawyer either, but did work for a large US corporation that owned a lot of Trademarks for their products. Trademarks are somewhat like software in that they are intellectual property. As employees we received a lot or training on how these Trademarks must be protected, and some of that matches what you say above. If we used a trademarked name (a "brand name) in a generic sense, then we were told by our lawyers that this would indeed limit their ability to prevent others from using OUR intellectual property in a similar manner. Likewise, if we allowed other people to use our trademarked names and did not object early and often, then that would limit our ability to enforce the trademark at a later date. The best examples of non-enforcement are Xerox brand photocopiers and Kleenex brand tissues. You cannot put these names on your products, but you likewise cannot be stopped from using the word "xerox" to refer to all photocopies and the word kleenex to refer to all tissues, because the misuse of these trademarks has not been enforced by the trademark owners. In fact, there are probably better examples where the trademarked name because so common that anyone can now use it to describe their product. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:19:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? Comments: To: Jon Barrett MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:46:13 -0500, Jon Barrett wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 08:53:21 -0800 > > From: Longden Loo > > Subject: Re: Is there any way to read an HP Flashdisk with a Notebook? > > > > > I usually perform 200LX data backup using HP Transfile software. > > > More frequently, I do backup on my HP Flashdisk (10MB; P/N: F1013A). > > > I now have a Notebook pc (with Windows 2000) and I tried to read the HP > > > Flashdisk thru the PCMCIA slot, with no success (I was able to read my > > > flashdisk > > > with my old HP Omnibook instead). > > > Any suggestion? > > > > I haven't used W2K myself, but I'm not aware that there were any special > > issues with recognizing old flash cards. You'd think that W2K came with > > all the generic drivers necessary to handle most memory cards. The original flash cards were designed for 12 volts. Newer cards are designed for 5 volts and the newest cards for 3.3 volts. Some newer notebooks cannot work with the 12 volt flash cards. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:19:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Long Phone Numbers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:51:42 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > > I recalled more: I think it was a topic here several months ago, and > someone actually said that all modems have that limitation, that it was not > an EXP-unique issue. You may want to browse around the archives... My various Megahertz modems all work just fine with the long dialing strings required for use with calling cards. In some cases I need 6 commas between the card access number and the card pin number. If you are only one or two digits over the limit of your modem, redefine the time delay of the comma to be more than 2 seconds and use only one. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:35:16 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LARRY FELDMAN Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LARRY FELDMAN Subject: Re: Abandonware Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would like to respectfully request (suggest) that all Abandonware discu= ssion relating to copywrite, be marked as "fluff" - or be banned outright from = the list. Not that there is anything wrong with such discussions, but 1) it's= not HP specific 2) we have it again, and again, and again and again. First - someone posts an Abandonware site. Second - Someone objects Third - We get into a discussion of Software distribution Forth - we debate copyright vs. trademark Again, and again and again. Never anything new, just the same old, same o= ld. Perhaps it's time to start a "herd core" HP list on eGroups. No socializi= ng, just straight HP talk. Larry ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:47:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Jan 2001 link fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 7 Feb 2001 09:36:35 -0500 (EST) Hello All: There was an error in the HPLX-L command center link to the Jan 2001 logs...all fixed now, sorry :-( Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:33:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote: > But where does yours fail? Totally, implosion, windows' error message? > Other? Just would not connect....no error message displayed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:44:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LARRY FELDMAN wrote: > I would like to respectfully request (suggest) that all Abandonware discussion > relating to copywrite, be marked as "fluff" - or be banned outright from the > list. Not that there is anything wrong with such discussions, but 1) it's not > HP specific 2) we have it again, and again, and again and again. I would suggest it is relevant....many of us are still using an hp200lx and the software industry has left us DOS users out int the "cold." With a little foresight the software industry could have provided for their software to have a "second life" on the hp200lx. The industry would have had no additional costs...this was all software that was already in the pipepline. There is parallel....Fox wrote off "Rocky Horror Picture Show" back in the 70s as a failure only to have it have a successful new life in the midnight movie market. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:48:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: LARRY FELDMAN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LARRY FELDMAN wrote: > we have it again, and again, and again and again. I would point out that this is my first time on the subject. It may have been brought up before but before I was on Compuserve and could never get this list or any newsgroups to work on Compuserve. So the result is I missed out on the discussion in previous incarnations. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:09:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: Keys don't work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Striegel, Alan Ýmailto:Striegel@PIOS.COM¨ > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 4:44 PM >... > I have never cleaned inside my keyboard before but I'm > thinking of trying it soon. Well, I didn't remove the keyboard cover, but last evening I took apart the base of the 200LX and decided that my problems were not related to the keys themselves, but since most of the problem keys were clustered together, it was somewhere in the connections for a column in the keyboard matrix. There is a connector for the keyboard that relies on a flexible contact pressed against a set of contacts on the main board. It's located under the front of the keyboard between the key and the <=> key. Pressing the case together in this area fixes the problem, so I probably just need to clean the contact surfaces in there. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:40:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: FYI: Web Stuff and Misc Computer Comments: To: List OB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Found a site of general interest with some interesting internet reference material in one locations. http://webopedia.internet.com/quick_ref/ Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:22:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just double-clicked on the Cpack Desktop shortcut, and it fired right up(when I had it)under Win98 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:10:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Goin Postal Comments: cc: honey@nznet.gen.nz In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010207204404.006c5070@nznet.gen.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:44:04 +1300 Michelle Honey a =E9crit: > Steve Lawson's email address seems to have changed. My mail to > support@sdl.continet.com is being returned Even the web site is down since one or two weeks... :-( Too bad. Because, just before he released the freeware version, the page said that he was thinking to publish the sources of the program..=20 Just what I need to remove one or two lines of code (those checking about the DCD line status), and GP would work perfectly with cellular phones, and I would not have to do hardware cable changes.. > My ISP uses dynamic IP addressing so I have to use 0.0.0.0 as its URL. > I seem to connect and negotiate, then have a problem with resolving the > POP3 Server. What do you call "URL" ?=20 The only "URL" that you have to set (if we can call them URL) are SMTP and POP. Where you have to pu IP adress are not URLs, but the DNS servers adresses. You must have these adress listed somewhere on the paper sheet that your provider sent you when you subscribed, or somewhere on their web site. BTW, If you cannot find them, you can use any other DNS server around the world. For example 212.27.32.5 or 212.27.32.6 are valid (one of the main French free providers). Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:40:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > And looking at the LED light for the HP200LX that Daniel Hertrich made = at > http://www.daniel-hertrich.de/ledlight/ , would it be possible to do = away > with the circuit board, I made a LED light without a circuit board. I started with half of a = 200LX serial cable, so I had a connector to plug into the palmtop's serial port already. The other end just had loose wires. The LED was soldered to = the appropriate two wires (as determined with a volt meter). I cut a short = piece of plastic tube from the body of a cheap ball point pen. The LED was = slipped into this tube so the tip of the LED just sticks out one end and the = wires are protected inside the tube. I then used electrical tape to attach the = tube to the rest of the cable. Finally, I wrapped some aluminum wire around the = cable to make it stiff enough to hold its position over the screen. If I were making it again, I would use two LEDs to get a wider area = covered. My current one lights up the center of the screen much better than the two = sides. I find myself moving the light back and forth slightly to read a complete = line of text. I got the LED from Radio Shack. I tested several of their LEDs and went = with a bright yellow one. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:26:48 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: Goin Postal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know how to obtain a version of Goin Postal higher than 3 (on Super). Seems like there has been a version 4.03 and some suggestion that version 5 was also made available. As version 3 runs on a desktop PC, debugging the installation would be achieved much more easily there if the menus could be accessed by some kestroke combinations which would emulate the "Menu" key of the HP200LX. Does anyone know if/which of the PC's keys can simulate the "Menu" key of the 200LX? Thanks Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:22:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Don Miller Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Don Miller Organization: JFK University Subject: Re: Abandonware (historical trivia) In-Reply-To: <200102080501.VAA13215@jfku.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Victor Roberts wrote: > Subject: Re: Abandonware > > The best examples of non-enforcement are Xerox brand photocopiers and > Kleenex brand tissues. You cannot put these names on your products, > but you likewise cannot be stopped from using the word "xerox" to > refer to all photocopies and the word kleenex to refer to all tissues, > because the misuse of these trademarks has not been enforced by the > trademark owners. In fact, there are probably better examples where > the trademarked name because so common that anyone can now use it to > describe their product. The very best example in U.S. law is the now-common word "aspirin". That word was originally a trademark of Bayer Co., and only they could sell acetylsalicylic acid tablets under that name. They were not rigourous enough in protecting their rights, and after a lot of litigation, the term was held to have passed completely into the public domain. Note that this was never taken to court in Canada, where "Aspirin" is still sold only by Bayer, and all the others are labelled "A.S.A.". Now, that's not to say I endorse the practises of companies that use their rights to suppress older, often better versions of their products, and I wonder if some kind of fair-use exception might apply, but it's the way lawyers think that being offensively zealous about protecting their clients' rights is regarded as mandatory. In the "moral" sense, I have no problem with personal use of a program whose owner has tried to take out of the marketplace of ideas, in order to push some newer, usually meaning "Over-featured, MSWin-dependent" version. The law is so far behind what's possible in the software area that it'll take years to come up with sound policy-based decisions in this area. Just my 2 cents worth... Don Miller ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:26:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: ST7868W Test Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Got lots to learn, one of the first is the menu key in PALRUN so > I can exit gracefully. The / key is the menu key. Or Use ALT-key like Alt-q to quit, etc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:26:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > using the word "xerox" to refer to all photocopies and the word > kleenex to refer to all tissues, because the misuse of these > trademarks has not been enforced by the trademark owners. In > fact, there are probably better examples where the trademarked > name because so common that anyone can now use it to describe > their product. Aspirin! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:26:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > But where does yours fail? Totally, implosion, windows' error message? > > Other? > > Just would not connect....no error message displayed. Where's your mouse and where's the serial cable connection? Good luck getting it running within Windows. As the other messages indicated, quite a few have had success while others have been locked out. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:04:41 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: CPack on Win9x & New Win9x Menu Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adding my experience to the magic-who knows, it may help some: Since I installed Win98SE, and the connectivity pack, the "Filers" do not communicate at first. All settings OK on both sides. To get it working, I have to: On the desktop, start Connectivity Pack, Filer, F10(connect): waits and cannot establish a communication.OK Then Menu, Comminications, Settings. Don't do anything , just OK. F10(connect) again, it works! This behaviour is permanent and reliable, and reliably irritating. Anyone has a hint? ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Christopher To: Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 01:05 PM Subject: CPack on Win9x & New Win9x Menu > I have successfully run Cpack on my Win98 system without any > problem whatsoever. My settings under the property tab are > all default settings, ie: > > Program/Advanced:Suggest MS DOS Mode As Necessary. > > Font:Both font types > > Memory:Auto (all 4 boxes); check Uses HMA > > Screen:Full Screen, Size:Default; all other boxes checked > > Misc:Allow Screen Saver; Termination:Warn if not active > Other:Allow fast pasting;Windows shortcut keys:All > checked. > > BTW, I ran across a great program for those of us who detest > icons and the inevitable clutter of the Win desktop. Called > Quick Menu v3.0.1.9 by Malcolm Pescod: > http://home.freeuk.net/mpescod > > The program is free (charityware). Creates a vertical menu > bar on the right side. Since the program simply creates > shortcuts to shortcuts, suggest you create a new folder on > the desktop called Shortcuts. Drag every icon on your screen > to that folder. You should be left with My Computer, My > Documents, Recycle Bin and Shortcuts icons only. > > Install Quick Menu per the installer that comes with it. I > installed to c:\windows\qmenu for the directory. Run > Menu.exe to start the program. Right click on the top of the > menu column and click Options. Set your preferences for > background color, font, etc. > > Open the new shortcuts folder and simply drag each item to > the menu column. You can create menu headings and submenus. > If a particular item won't run as expected from the menu, > right click on it and check the "action" selection. Apps > should be set to 'Open', dial-ups set to 'Connect', etc. > > The only downside to using Quick Menu is that it is still > mouse driven, the cursor keys do not move the highlight bar > up and down the menu column. On the other hand, all menu > items are simple text - no icons, no graphics, etc. When you > move the mouse off the menu it quickly shrinks to the right > and becomes a thin red vertical line on the right side of > the screen. Moving the mouse over to that line expands the > menu. If you loathe icons, you'll love Quick Menu. > > I've already contacted the author and asked if he would > consider making some improvements to the program to allow > full keyboard control of the menu. We'll have to wait and > see what his reply is. > > Bob > > Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com > HP 200-LX Palmtop > = DOS Were The Days = > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:01:44 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Goin Postal Comments: To: Michelle Honey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have version 4R1 I think, somewhere- will send it when found. On the desktop, Alt-M is the menu key I have not succeeded to make GP run on my desktop, although I didn't try very hard: I get the "Can't seem to talk to the modem" message Anyone knows what to try? Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Michelle Honey To: Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 05:26 AM Subject: Goin Postal > Does anyone know how to obtain a version of Goin Postal higher than 3 (on > Super). > > Seems like there has been a version 4.03 and some suggestion that version 5 > was also made available. > > As version 3 runs on a desktop PC, debugging the installation would be > achieved much more easily there if the menus could be accessed by some > kestroke combinations which would emulate the "Menu" key of the HP200LX. > Does anyone know if/which of the PC's keys can simulate the "Menu" key of > the 200LX? > > Thanks > > Craig Honey > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:06:17 -700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Constant Brouerius van Nidek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Constant Brouerius van Nidek Subject: Re: Goin Postal MIME-Version: 1.0 I am using the registered Goin Postal Version 4.03 (which is no different from the version 5 -freeware) regularly also on my Pentium. Especially if I need to delete some big email which is blocking the rest of my downloads. In order to use the functions on the topbar, just press Alt M and you are in the menu. From there everything goes as usual. -- " Go 'head and steal my tagline it flatters me." NTReader v0.32w(P)/Beta (UNREGISTERED) in conjunction with Net-Tamer. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 04:28:28 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Goin Postal In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010208172648.006f2738@nznet.gen.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Does anyone know how to obtain a version of Goin Postal higher than 3 (on > Super). Version 5 r1 is on Super but doesn't show up from the search. You can access the files directly by ftp at ftp.palmtop.net and look for gp5r1.exe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:30:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Goin Postal In-Reply-To: <008801c091a5$64c5f460$05e3e0d5@pandora.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:01:44 +0100 Etienne Lemaire a =E9crit: > I have not succeeded to make GP run on my desktop, although I > didn't try very hard: I get the "Can't seem to talk to the > modem" message Do you use a "Winmodem" ?=20 Perhaps that GP can talk only with true modems... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:30:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Goin Postal Comments: cc: honey@NZNET.GEN.NZ In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010208172648.006f2738@nznet.gen.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:26:48 +1300 Michelle Honey a =E9crit: > Does anyone know how to obtain a version of Goin Postal higher than 3 (on > Super). >=20 > Seems like there has been a version 4.03 and some suggestion that version= 5 > was also made available. I have version 5.1. I can send it to you privately (anyone else ?). It's a self-compressed exe file. 372443 bytes. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:06:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Penick Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Penick Subject: Win 98 or Win2K MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am real confused why this is such a problem for so many people. I am currently running the connectivity pack on a Win2K machine with no problems. I've even added the infrared to serial adapter that Thaddeus sells and it is great! I originally installed the connectivity pack onto a Windows 3.1 machine years ago. All I've ever done since then is copy the CPACK200 folder/subdirectory from one machine to the next and everything always ran right. (With the exceptions of human errors, like selecting the wrong port or speed of course.) So far I've run the same app under 7 different versions of Windows just by clicking on the APP200.bat file. I even have a shortcut to it on my Win2K desktop that works fine. Like others have reported, I have not been able to minimize the window it is running in without it locking up. Wish we could solve that problem. Oh well..... Later, bob ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:11:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K In-Reply-To: <008a01c091f9$e0f4d5c0$7b1d0e0a@penickrh40w> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That's great to know. Does transfile work with Win2K? -Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:41:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi I want to use my lx200-123 to keep track of the quotation of some papers. These date-lines are filling each time a new line - naturally. The last value I want to reference to A1, to have a quick overview and (more) the easy file-link-possiblity. Bat I can't give a cell location with a variable f.i. over @count. Who has a hint? Thanks in advance K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:34:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kimberly Allegretto Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kimberly Allegretto Subject: MOO client? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone recommend a DOS MOO client that works well on the 200LX? I am taking a course on "Virtual Communities" and we have class frequently online. I would like to try connecting from my palmtop and raw telnet has not worked well for class members who have tried it. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:25:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote: > Where's your mouse and where's the serial cable connection? Mouse is on serial port 1, the same port as the 200lx comes in on (which is why I could never get trasnfile to work). The computer has 4 serial ports but connectivity pack would only recognize serial port 1. Transfile would recognize 0 serial ports. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:02:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Larry Feldman wrote (>): > Perhaps it's time to start a "herd core" > HP list on eGroups. No socializing, > just straight HP talk. ZZZzzz... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:02:38 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Topcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I find the standard HPLX topcard rather boring and thought I'd make my own. = I've managed to make a 640 * 200 pixel PCX image that loads OK as the = topcard, but I've not been able to make a "hole" for the clock etc. The = problem may be caused by the fact that I don't seem to have any software on = my MC218 or Toshiba that can save PCX. I created the drawing in Sketch on = the MC218 and converted it to PCX with nConvert on the MC218. I had "draw = transparent" set in Sketch, but maybe the setting was lost in the = conversion? BTW, is it possible to make a "hole" just for the time and date? I'd prefer = to put my owner information in the image itself. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:02:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I've tested three different versions of the HfFax software for weatherfax = reception on my HP200LX. I'm now using version 5.1a and getting good = results, but there are some minor issues with this version. I've also used = 3.0 which has some other bigger issues. The newest version I've tested is 6.0. This version loads OK and I can = navigate the menus, but when I go to the tuning scope, capture screen or = set it to automatic reception, the keyboard stops working. The program = seems to keep running, but the LX will not even respond to Ctrl + Alt + = Del. Since weatherfax reception relies heavily on accurate timing using = interrupts, I suspect that there is a conflict with the interrupts for the = keyboard. (The software samples a voltage on the CTS pin of the RS-232 1280 = times per minute.) HfFax 6.0 works OK on my Toshiba Pentiium 100. I would like to try to get the programmer to fix this problem. Does anyone = have any suggestions what causes it? Is there anything special about the = HP200LX keyboard which may cause this problem? It'll probably be easier to = get the programmer to help me if I can give him a suggestion where to look. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:09:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > > Perhaps it's time to start a "herd core" > > HP list on eGroups. No socializing, > > just straight HP talk. Let stay away from eGroups...I know someone who was signed up with them and most people could not respond to his e-mails without getting errors stating that they were not members of this egroup. I have no idea what eGroups are but their error messages were very nasty. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:44:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: File Handles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; Has anyone noticed that the number of FILES and BUFFERS can't be changed? I change the values in C:\CONFIG.SYS and they remain at FILES=30 and BUFFERS=20, as in D:\CONFIG.SYS. I thought that the 200LX bypassed D:\CONFIG.SYS whenever it found C:\CONFIG.SYS? I need to set FILES=60. What's going on? Am I missing something? HELP! Thanks in advance. Regards, Richard Smith Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:37:26 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: WP5.1 Function Keys Template MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Listers. A while ago I made a Function Key Template for Word Perfect 5.1, and suddenly realized that others may find it useful. It's not rocket science, just a table in a M$ Word file which prints out the right size for the LX. You print it, cut it out, and stick it on a bit of card. It sits behind the F keys OK while I type. If you want it, email me offline Cheers...Roger Whitmarsh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:25:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: WTB: Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a 56K modem (ISA or PCI) that may be lying around and gathering dust that they might like to get rid of at an el cheapo price? I just finished building my son a new computer for his room from spare parts (PII, 64MB) and all I lack is a modem. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 05:00:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > fjkaufman@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > > Where's your mouse and where's the serial cable connection? > > Mouse is on serial port 1, the same port as the 200lx comes in on (which is > why I could never get trasnfile to work). That could definitely be the problem. In windows, the mouse is probably fully occupying the port and cpack can't use it. > The computer has 4 serial ports but connectivity pack would only > recognize serial port 1. Are the additional ports setup in your bios? Sometimes you have to initialize them and/or set irq for them. I don't know if an system.ini changes are needed. I see under cpack's SETUP, a com3 and com4 setting. Frankly, I don't recall what I may or may not have tweaked regarding the comport. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 01:40:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: File Handles Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > Hello all; > > Has anyone noticed that the number of FILES and BUFFERS can't be > changed? I change the values in C:\CONFIG.SYS and they remain at Do you have F drive? If so, check the CONFIG.SYS there, and modify it there, then reboot. (it may be G drive, too!) Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 21:32:07 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Re: File Handles In-Reply-To: <200102090940.BAA05377@ftel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:40 AM 09/02/01 -0800, you wrote: > Richard and Patti Smith wrote: >> Has anyone noticed that the number of FILES and BUFFERS can't be >> changed? Avi wrote >Do you have F drive? If so, check the CONFIG.SYS there, and >modify it there, then reboot. (it may be G drive, too!) Maybe also check A: if you use it to boot from as I do sometimes. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 03:52:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: File Handles Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Russell Hemery wrote: > At 01:40 AM 09/02/01 -0800, you wrote: > > Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > >> Has anyone noticed that the number of FILES and BUFFERS can't be > >> changed? > > Avi wrote > >Do you have F drive? If so, check the CONFIG.SYS there, and > >modify it there, then reboot. (it may be G drive, too!) > > Maybe also check A: if you use it to boot from as I do sometimes. Yes, good idea. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:49:59 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TheOpr@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Re: Compuserve on a 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the cim -lcd tip. I am able to participate in the forums with ease. Kat ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 07:50:01 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TheOpr@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kat Deutscher Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What features does acCIS 4.0 have that make it more attractive than the free software from Compuserve? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 09:05:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Klaus, I am not sure I understand your question but you can reach the last cell = in a 1-2-3 sheet by pressing END-HOME or END-DOWN for the last cell in a = range. Once there you can add more lines. \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:08:28 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: MOO client? In-Reply-To: <981664446.3a8302be9c41e@imap.grad.brandeis.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Kimberly Allegretto wrote: > Can anyone recommend a DOS MOO client that works well on the 200LX? I > am taking a course on "Virtual Communities" and we have class > frequently online. I would like to try connecting from my palmtop and > raw telnet has not worked well for class members who have tried it. > Thanks. What kind of connection are you using? ethernet card and TCP/IP stack, modem, or direct serial connection? I think the best (if possible) would be to telnet to a UNIX host and than run a MUD/MOO client there. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 08:50:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I want to use my lx200-123 to keep track of > the quotation of some papers. These date-lines > are filling each time a new line - naturally. The > last value I want to reference to A1, to havea > quick overview and (more) the easy > file-link-possiblity. Bat I can't give a cell location > with a variable f.i. over @count. Who has a hint? I've read and re-read this a number of times and I can't figure out what you're trying to do or what the problem is. Can you try to explain some more? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 10:31:30 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Egroups is now part of YahooGroups. I'm subsribed to several of the groups there and never have had the error problems. Although, once I tried to respond from work and it didn't have my work address as a member of the group. In that case I did get the message kicked back. Some of the groups are open membership and let you subscribe outright and others require that the moderator approve your membership. Best Regards, Owen Samuelson Macon, GA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" > > Let stay away from eGroups...I know someone > who was signed up with them and most people > could not respond to his e-mails without getting > errors stating that they were not members of this > egroup. > > I have no idea what eGroups are but their > error messages were very nasty. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:50:00 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: eGroups (Was Re: Abandonware) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken London wrote (>): > "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > > > Perhaps it's time to start a "herd core" > > > HP list on eGroups. No socializing, > > > just straight HP talk. No, I did NOT write that! I quoted Larry Feldman. Note the double quotes. = One set from my e-mail program and one from yours. (And a third set now) I = wrote "ZZZzzz" as a comment to the idea of "No socializing, just straight = HP talk.". > Let stay away from eGroups...I know someone > who was signed up with them and most people > could not respond to his e-mails without getting > errors stating that they were not members of this > egroup. Huh? eGroups mailing lists are just like the HPLX list. You have to = subscribe before you can send messages to the list. The only way what you = describe could happen is If this person set the e-mail address of the list = as his own e-mail address in his e-mail program. I am a member of one eGroups.com list (travel letters from another = sailboat), one topica.com list (the Nikon Coolpix User Group) and several = listbot lists including my own travel letter groups, the Norwegian EPOC = User Group and a couple of Norwegian boating groups. The only problems I've = ever experienced with any of these groups is that the messages some times = took a long time to get through (Up to 24 hours). This hasn't happened for = a long time though. > I have no idea what eGroups are but their > error messages were very nasty. Well, if you're using it wrong... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:43:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > I've read and re-read this a number of times and I can't figure > out what you're trying to do or what the problem is. Can you > try to explain some more? ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi I feared this. I'll try to explain it with giving my 'solution', which I will realize, when there is no other way. Say we have such a worksheet: A B 1 +B3 (45.21) 2 1.1.2001 45.23 3 1.2.2001 45.21 4 1.3.2001 44.11 When I fill the fourth row with the next date and the actual value, which is ('naturally') sinking. In cell A1 there should be automatically contents of the last B-cell (44.11). My 'solution' would be a stack-construction, in which the last insertion would allways be in the second row. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:03:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Abandonware Comments: To: Owen Samuelson In-Reply-To: <004b01c09283$77ea78c0$e11756d1@homepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I too use Yahoogroups, recently, and once upon a time onelist --- Owen Samuelson wrote: > Although, once I tried to respond from work and it > didn't have my work address as a member of the group. > In that case I did get the message kicked back. It is possible to add email addresses to an existing account. Then you receive from the list at the primary address but can send mail from all your addresses. Also in the list settings the moderator can select to an option to allow non list members to post. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:03:07 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: topcards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Owen Morgan wrote: >>I find the standard HPLX topcard rather boring.....<<< Hi, Owen, To answer one of your questions, " If you want owner information to appear in the middle of your Topcard you must store your .PCX file in the C:\_DAT subdirectory with the name TOPCARD.PCX. " For the definitive article on topcards, see http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/44/44c0000b.htm .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:11:55 -0600 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt In-Reply-To: <3A84B8E8.58FA@TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Klaus Try using the macro APPENDBELOW. These commands create 2 named ranges New and List Menu/Range/Name/Create New A1..B1 down arrow to A2 Menu/Range/Name/Create List A2..B2 To put the macro out of the way and allow for a year's worth of entries goto C370 and enter {APPENDBELOW LIST;NEW} Then name the macro Menu/Range/Name/Create /Append C370 To use, enter the date in A1 and the amount in B1. run the macro alt-F3 then select /Append from the list of named ranges hit Enter then Enter again. Your first run of the macro will put the data from (New) A1..B1 into A3..B3 and expand the range of (List) to A2..B3 so the next run will put the contents of (New) into A4..B4 etc. A2..B2 is blank because APPENDBELOW skipped over it. If I understand what you are trying to do, the result will be the contents of the last cell will be the same as the contents of B1 (instead of A1 in your example) This is a backwards approach, but I think it does what you are trying to do. Others may have a more elegant solution. Mike > Hi > > I feared this. I'll try to explain it with giving my 'solution', > which I will realize, when there is no other way. > > Say we have such a worksheet: > A B > 1 +B3 (45.21) > 2 1.1.2001 45.23 > 3 1.2.2001 45.21 > 4 1.3.2001 44.11 > > When I fill the fourth row with the next date and the actual value, > which is ('naturally') sinking. In cell A1 there should be > automatically contents of the last B-cell (44.11). > > My 'solution' would be a stack-construction, in which the > last insertion would allways be in the second row. > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:20:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Say we have such a worksheet: > A B > 1 +B3 (45.21) > 2 1.1.2001 45.23 > 3 1.2.2001 45.21 > 4 1.3.2001 44.11 > > When I fill the fourth row with the next date and the actual value, > which is ('naturally') sinking. In cell A1 there should be > automatically contents of the last B-cell (44.11). > > My 'solution' would be a stack-construction, in which the > last insertion would allways be in the second row. Probably not as elegant as a function call, but I'd just create a macro that'd just copy the contents of the last cell to A1 {goto}b2~{end}{down}/c~a1~ You'd have to run the macro before expecting the correct value to show up in a1, and this also assumes there's always a non-last value in b2. You can get fancier ... depends on your needs. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:40:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Thanks all, I will try your macros. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:06:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Reinhardt" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 9:43 PM Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' > Barry wrote: > > > > I've read and re-read this a number of times and I can't figure > > out what you're trying to do or what the problem is. Can you > > try to explain some more? > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > I feared this. I'll try to explain it with giving my 'solution', > which I will realize, when there is no other way. > > Say we have such a worksheet: > A B > 1 +B3 (45.21) > 2 1.1.2001 45.23 > 3 1.2.2001 45.21 > 4 1.3.2001 44.11 > > When I fill the fourth row with the next date and the actual value, > which is ('naturally') sinking. In cell A1 there should be > automatically contents of the last B-cell (44.11). > > My 'solution' would be a stack-construction, in which the > last insertion would allways be in the second row. I think I get it now. Assuming that you know there will be no more than 365 rows in this table, A1 can contain something like: @@("B"&@string(@count(B2..B366)+1,0)) I hope I typed that right. Anyway, if I did it should work. I manually copied it from 123 in my palmtop where I made it work on a different range on a sheet that I had handy. I might have mis-typed or mis-converted the range but that should be easy to fix if I did. If you want this to work for a longer period than a year just increase the length of the range. If you want more than 1 row of header, just increase the number added after the @count() function. I did this quickly so double check the results carefully. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:04:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: eGroups (Was Re: Abandonware) Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: >Huh? eGroups mailing lists are just like the HPLX list. >You have to subscribe before you can send messages >to the list. The only way what you describe could happen >is If this person set the e-mail address of the list as his >own e-mail address in his e-mail program. I would note that I wasn't using eGroups...I was replying to an email that was sent to me. Apparaently the email that was sent to me was through egroups. I just responded to this person's email and received an angry message from egroups like I had tried to send email to the pentagon. I have no idea what he did on his end. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:15:56 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Need TSR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I need a TSR that will: launch Goin' Postal send the F9 scancode to retrieve/deliver my mail close Goin' Postal after some period of time, say 5 minutes wait a specfied amount of time (say 30 minutes) repeat I have an older laptop that would be great as nothing more than an email machine that would run on automatic while I am away. Any ideas? Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:15:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: File Handles Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha! F: drive! I had forgotten about that one! DUH! (Boy, do I feel like ditz!) Thanks, Avi! A Meshar wrote: > Do you have F drive? If so, check the CONFIG.SYS there, and > modify it there, then reboot. (it may be G drive, too!) > > Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:49:43 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michelle Honey Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michelle Honey Subject: LXPOP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, Can anyone advise me where to get Rob Whityby's LXPOP (for use with ccLXPOP). Rob Whitby's site points to another which has LXMTA only. Thanks Craig Honey ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:24:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: File Handles Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > Aha! F: drive! I had forgotten about that one! DUH! (Boy, do I feel > like ditz!) Thanks, Avi! No, no, please do not feel badly. It is one of the most confusing aspects about the Palmtop. Many many people get confused about it.I am just glad I could help. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:04:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 and orgasmatron device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit basically i want to transfer my HPLX todo reminders to pop up on the desktop. For example: a recurring todo might be to send an e-mail to a friend every 3 months to ask how he is doing. I want an alarm window to pop up on the desktop just like it does on the HPLX. i found MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 with HPLX 95 docs, which say: >Import/Export supports transferring data to and from the HP >95LX data sections listed below. Note that Appointment >Book files (containing Appointments and/or To Do Lists) must use >a file extension of ABK, whereas, Phone Book file names must >have an extension of PBK. Import/Export works with Appointments, Phone Book, and To Do List. Q: anyone using MS Schedule, and is it worth it? ....might also use it also to program/sync my LX/PC to cancel the limit imposed by my "device": "Stuart Meloy, a surgeon at Piedmont Anesthesia and Pain Consultants in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, has developed a device which, just like Woody Allen's orgasmatron, guarantees pleasure at the push of a button. Orgasmic dysfunction is not uncommon among women and its causes are many and varied. The new device consists of an implanted signal generator and electrodes which stimulate appropriate spinal nerves when activated by a hand-held remote control. Wisely, Meloy has programmed his invention to limit its use. After all, we don't want people using it while they're driving - we've had enough trouble with mobile phones" http://www.newscientist.com/news/newsletter.jsp?id=ns227731 ....and anyone from West Virginia? The Washington DC chapter of the NCFM presented its annual media award to Washington Times Journalist, Fred Reed this January. Fred is a master of the politically incorrect, and with his down-home "West Virginia" character, he has crafted some masterful commentary on a wide range of social issues. You can read some of his best work online at http://www.fredoneverything.com/ French bises to all Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:16:28 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: TheOpr@AOL.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > What features does acCIS 4.0 have that make it more attractive > than the free software from Compuserve? Having not run the cis software on the hp, I really can't compare other than what I've heard about doscim being slow and large. And if the older version, not supporting the full number of forums. Accis was designed for the hp and runs pretty fast. I guess, at this point, I don't recall if there is a tryout version but I believe a full refund was offered so that serves a similar purpose. Also, if I recall, cis' software saves each message in its own file, taking up lots of room. And I don't recall that it worked very well for offline reading and replying???? Reveal: I was a beta tester of accis many moons ago. Many! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:06:38 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kat Deutscher wrote: > > What features does acCIS 4.0 have that make it more attractive > than the free software from Compuserve? It's an OLR (off-line-reader) and much faster than DOS-CIM. I think www.rundel-t.com sells with money back guarantee if you are dissatisfied. I use it regularily. However I feel that CIS is going down the toilett and forums will die sooner or later :( HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:07:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: 123: How to reference the 'last cell' Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > @@("B"&@string(@count(B2..B366)+1,0)) > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Many, many thanks to Barry; that's, what I was searching for and would never have found by myself. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:07:10 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: TferWin 200 connection problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello all I am perplexed by a problem connecting my DS 200LX with a Win98 desktop machine. I have tried speeds right down to 1200 baud and still having problems. ie the connection starts then after a little time (from a few seconds to several minutes the connection falls over and an error message that the LX cant be detected is displayed. With a retry it restarts ok but falls again a little later. There doesnt seem to be a pattern with speed or anything else I can think of. ANY help/suggestions or similar experiences would be appreciated. TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:53:17 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Topcard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David Sargeant wrote (>): > The 200LX puts the owner-time-date information up > automatically if you call the file "topcard.pcx", > I think it is, and put it in c:\_dat. Thanks! It worked a charm. I had named the file "topcard.pcx", but had put = it in a folder on A. When I moved it to c:\_dat and changed the settings, = the owner information, date and time appeared in the middle of the image. Owen --=20 @ Sigerfjord in Vester=E5len, Northern Norway 68=B039.14'N 15=B029.34'E Owen H. Morgan, Yacht "Naomi J.", LD-9311 c/o Idrettsveien 6, 3188 HORTEN, Norway ohmorgan@iname.com http://pagina.de/naomi.j Phone: +47 92053097 Fax: +47 92174526= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:53:54 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Larry Tachna wrote (>): > the keyboard routines are tied into the power > saving scheme on the palmtop the programmer would > have to have a look at the developer documents to > fix this Does anyone have any more specific information? The software was not = written for the LX, but the older versions work OK. The programmer does not = seem very eager to offer support, but maybe if I can provide reasonable = accurate information on what is causing this, he can be persuaded to look = into it. As I said, the program relies on heavy use of interrupts, so the = problem is probably related to this. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:09:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HP Staber wrote: > I use it regularily. However I feel that CIS is going down the toilett > and forums will die sooner or later :( I had a CIS account for years and years, long before the internet thing came along. I kept my CIS account even after I got a regular ISP because of the features of CIS and my e-mail account. However, not long after AOL bought CIS they turned off the local server in my town and the server in the next (larger) town was either always busy or very unreliable (couldn't connect, got dropped shortly after connection, locked up the machine, etc.). It got so bad I regretfully, finally, cancelled my account. I simply wasn't getting anything for my money. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 09:21:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: MOO client? Comments: To: Kimberly Allegretto MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:34:06 -0500, Kimberly Allegretto wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a DOS MOO client that works well on the 200LX? OK, I give up. What is a MOO client? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:23:04 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: LXPOP In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20010210154943.006f5930@nznet.gen.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:49:43 +1300 Michelle Honey a =E9crit: > Hi all, >=20 > Can anyone advise me where to get Rob Whityby's LXPOP (for use with ccLXP= OP). >=20 > Rob Whitby's site points to another which has LXMTA only. LXMTA is the new name of LXPOP. More precisely, it is the merging of LXPOP and LXNNTP, and is used by adding one or several parameters : LXMTA POP LXMTA SMTP LXMTA NNTP=20 LXMTA POP SMTP =2E.. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:42:00 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Need TSR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bob Christopher wrote (>): > I need a TSR that will: > launch Goin' Postal > send the F9 scancode to retrieve/deliver my > mail close Goin' Postal after some period of > time, say 5 minutes wait a specfied amount > of time (say 30 minutes) repeat What I would like is a TSR that will send a series of keystrokes to the = program is the foreground at a user-selected time. No need for any repeats. = What I want to do is send "ESC, ESC, Q" to my weatherfax program to close = it at 16:00. I'm using FAKEY.COM to get the program into auto receive mode, = so the batchfile would look something like: FAKEY "a" wait 1 "s" NEWTSR 16:00 ESC ESC "q" HFFAX I can't use FAKEY.COM to do this, as the maximum value for a wait statement = in FAKEY is 255 seconds. Oh, and looking at the above batch, this wouldn't = work, as FAKEY would send the "a" and "s" to NEWTSR rather than to HFFAX, = so NEWTSR would probably have to be able to perform both functions. I have no idea where FAKEY.COM came from and there is no copyright = information in the program. I've had it for 15 years or so. It almost got = deleted when I got my Toshiba, but for some reason I decided to hang onto = my folder of little DOS utilities. Now that I have the HPLX, I'm glad I = did! Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:44:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The computer has 4 serial ports but connectivity pack would only > recognize serial port 1. Does it have for physical serial ports with places to plug things into all four? If so one possibility is that you're using port 1 for the mouse and were trying to use port 3 for the 200. Ports 1 and 3 share the same irq and shouldn't be used simultaneously. The same is true of ports 2 and 4. So if the mouse is already on port1, port 2 should be used for the 200. Or port 4 if nothing is on port 2 and the cpack can use port 4 (not all software can). Port 4 should only be used if port 2 is hard to get to or you have something using port 2 that won't be running while the 200lx is connected. If that isn't what you were trying to do or you already know that, ignore the above. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:21:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: Evan Person In-Reply-To: <3A854B87.788833E5@mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>It got so bad I >>regretfully, finally, cancelled my account. I simply wasn't getting >>anything for my money. ditto here and what a surprise my new isp connections seem much faster even at the same connection speed compared to CIS. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:21:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: MOO client? Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200102101421.JAA22358@sphmraaa.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>OK, I give up. What is a MOO client? a program written for dos by someone who likes cows? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:55:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Does it have for physical serial ports with places to plug > things into all four? Yes 4 physical ports. Connecitity pack would only recognize port 1, doesn't see port 2 3 or 4. Transfile sees 0 ports and requires a mouse which uses port 1. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:22:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evan Person wrote: > HP Staber wrote: > > > I use it regularily. However I feel that CIS is going down the toilett > > and forums will die sooner or later :( > > I had a CIS account for years and years, long before the internet > thing came along. I kept my CIS account even after I got a > regular ISP because of the features of CIS and my e-mail account. > However, not long after AOL bought CIS they turned off the local > server in my town and the server in the next (larger) town was either > always busy or very unreliable (couldn't connect, got dropped shortly > after connection, locked up the machine, etc.). It got so bad I > regretfully, finally, cancelled my account. I simply wasn't getting > anything for my money. > > Evan > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Last year I had a dispute with Compuserve/AOL, I was calling a local # (Cambridge MA), compuserve was forwarding the call to Lynn MA (a toll call). Compuserve and Bell Atlantic each said they weren't forwarding calls, yet my phone bills were huge. Finally dropped compuserve and got a DSL line from a local ISP. They day I canncelled compuserve was one of the happiest days of my life. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:31:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > Hi > > Larry Tachna wrote (>): > > > the keyboard routines are tied into the power > > saving scheme on the palmtop the programmer would > > have to have a look at the developer documents to > > fix this > > Does anyone have any more specific information? The software was not written for the LX, but the older versions work OK. The programmer does not seem very eager to offer support, but maybe if I can provide reasonable accurate information on what is causing this, he can be persuaded to look into it. As I said, the program relies on heavy use of interrupts, so the problem is probably related to this. > > Owen > -- > On a sailboat. In Norway > http://pagina.de/naomi.j > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Sadly, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to support the program or offer any help. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:40:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: TferWin 200 connection problems Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russell Hemery wrote: > Hello all > > I am perplexed by a problem connecting my DS 200LX with a Win98 desktop > machine. I have tried speeds right down to 1200 baud and still having > problems. ie the connection starts then after a little time (from a few > seconds to several minutes the connection falls over and an error message > that the LX cant be detected is displayed. With a retry it restarts ok but > falls again a little later. There doesnt seem to be a pattern with speed > or anything else I can think of. > > ANY help/suggestions or similar experiences would be appreciated. > > TIA > > Russell > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Are you using a pure DOS session? I run it as a pure DOS session. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:48:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: HP200LX PCMCIA disks and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (4) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. One (1) $25.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $50.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just awesome. Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:06:31 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: eGroups (Was Abandonware) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken London wrote (>): > I would note that I wasn't using eGroups...I was > replying to an email that was sent to me. =20 > Apparaently the email that was sent to me was > through egroups. I don't think this is possible. If you are not a member you will not = receive messages sent to the list. You cannot add users to an eGroups list = without their knowledge and consent, and anyway, if you had been a member, = you wouldn't have received an error message. Subscribing to a list is generally a two step process. You sign up via = e-mail or a web site, and the server sends you an automatic e-mail with a = code in the reply address. If you do not reply to this e-mail, you will not = be signed up. It is also possible for the list owner to send out = invitations, and you subscribe by replying to the invitation. Either way, = the server needs to receive an e-mail sent from your e-mail address = addressed to the correct address with the code in it before you are = subscribed. Since you received an error message from eGroups, your reply MUST have been = addressed to an eGroups list. As I said, the only way this could happen is = if your contact had set the address for the mailing list as his reply-to = address or sending address in the configuration of his own e-mail program. = Another possibility is that the user had set his mail server to forward = incoming messages to the list. Either way, it's a case of user error. I can't say anything about the error messages from eGroups as I've never = seen one, but these list server people are generally very concerned about = abuse. The last thing they want is to leave all the users on their = thousands of various lists open to spam. What happens if you send an e-mail to the HPLX list from an address that is = not a member? Do you get an error message, or does your e-mail simply get = lost in cyberspace? Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:26:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: eGroups (Was Abandonware) Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Owen H. Morgan" wrote: > Hi > > Ken London wrote (>): > > > I would note that I wasn't using eGroups...I was > > replying to an email that was sent to me. > > Apparaently the email that was sent to me was > > through egroups. > > I don't think this is possible. If you are not a member you will not receive messages sent to the list. You cannot add users to an eGroups list without their knowledge and consent, and anyway, if you had been a member, you wouldn't have received an error message. > I will repeat for the third time...I am not a member of egroups....i was replying to an email messsage that was sent to me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:38:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A856CFB.12916904@beld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Have you tried JVFax? This uses the Hamcomm interface developed by DL5YEC. Regards Andrew Lovell SM6MOJ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:01:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Samuel Finney Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Samuel Finney Subject: 95LX Link Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anybody know where I can find palmtop <--> PC connectivity software for the HP 95LX? I have a homebuilt link cable but have been unable to find any software that will let me use it. I would really appreciate it if anyone could tell me where I might find the necessary software. Thanks. Sam Finney ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:19:14 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 and orgasmatron device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nathalie, > basically i want to transfer my HPLX todo reminders to pop up on the > desktop. For example: a recurring todo might be to send an e-mail to a > friend every 3 months to ask how he is doing. I want an alarm window to = pop > up on the desktop just like it does on the HPLX. > > i found MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 with HPLX 95 docs, which = say: A recent version of Netscape is supposed to sync with the palmtops ToDo. I never tried it. Avi should know. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:19:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Hplx & Deskjet350CBI/Anyone we know in Budapest? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Got a email from a Hplxuser I know. He has a friend which is in Budapest at the moment. She is also a Hplxuser and wants a printer she can use with her Hplx. She is taking about a Hp Deskjet 350 CBI. I do not know this printer at all. Can she use it with the Hplx and can she use it over irda? Does anyone know a Hplxstore or a hplxuser in Budapest which she can talk/mail to about Hplx vs printers in Budapest? Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:53:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What features does acCIS 4.0 have that make it more attractive > than the free software from Compuserve? acCIS 4.0 is an offline reader. This means it connects to Compuserve. = Then it sends all of your outgoing mail and messages, then downloads all new = messages you want as fast as it can. Then it disconnects. An online run for me = takes 1-2 minutes. Then you can read and reply to messages when ever and where = ever you like on your palmtop. Later, you can connect to Compuserve again and = send and receive new messages. An offline reader is most useful if you have a pay-by-the-minute Compuserv= e account. It is less relavant with an unlimited time per month account. = Still, I like being able to read my messages anywhere, not just when I am = connected to a modem. Also, acCIS is much easier to read on the palmtop than CIM. I have used both, and I prefer acCIS by a large margin (ie enough to pay = for it ). Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:06:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Does anybody know where I can find palmtop <--> PC connectivity software > for the HP 95LX? I have a homebuilt link cable but have been unable to > find any software that will let me use it. I would really appreciate it if > anyone could tell me where I might find the necessary software. Thanks. Thaddeus offers that software -> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=connect.htm I also have a shrink-wrapped box with 95LX connection cable and software (by Nuvotech) that I got on a whim (but never used), and would sell that for $16. There are probably lots of shareware and freeware alternatives as well, tho since I don't have a 95LX, I'll fess up that I don't know the particulars. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:14:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Kimberly O. Allegretto" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Kimberly O. Allegretto" Subject: Re: MOO client? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry for the confusion. A MOO client is a program that allows you to participate in a "MUD (multi-user domain), object oriented" Ýa kind of text-based virtual reality program, such as LambdaMOO¨ without having your input text scrambled by someone else's output. Laust is right, I should try to run a program on a UNIX host. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:45:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nathalie, HP, and the group... > Nathalie, > > > basically i want to transfer my HPLX todo reminders to pop up on the > > desktop. For example: a recurring todo might be to send an e-mail to = a > > friend every 3 months to ask how he is doing. I want an alarm window = to pop > > up on the desktop just like it does on the HPLX. > > > > i found MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 with HPLX 95 docs, which = say: > > A recent version of Netscape is supposed to sync with the palmtops > ToDo. I never tried it. Avi should know. Yes... Netscape CALENDER v.4.7.1 will import/export from a 100lx, 200lx, Schedule+ 1.x, and Schedule+ 7.x (though I've never used Schedule+... the option is there. It's been a while now since I've downloaded it, but if I recall correctly, you can download Netscape Calender as an option and that after Netscape Communicator v.4.7, support for it no longer exists ( I could be wrong). Regardless, Calender works well for my application. Marcus zaaap@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:31:52 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Steve Carder writes: > An offline reader is most useful if you have a pay-by-the-minute Compuserve > account. It is less relavant with an unlimited time per month account. Unless you have teenagers sharing the line. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:45:33 GMT+1 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , paul pila Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: paul pila Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=_NextPart_Caramail_026691981852333_ID" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --=_NextPart_Caramail_026691981852333_ID Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About the link cable, do you know if the electric connections are the same, what for the HP48 calculators? please to answer if you are sure! Thanks. > -------Message d'origine------- > De : Samuel Finney > Date : 10/02/2001 20:15:19 > > Does anybody know where I can find palmtop PC connectivity software > for the HP 95LX? I have a homebuilt link cable but have been unable to > find any software that will let me use it. I would really appreciate it if > anyone could tell me where I might find the necessary software. Thanks. > > > Sam Finney > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ______________________________________________________ Bo=EEte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com --=_NextPart_Caramail_026691981852333_ID-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:59:11 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Larry Tachna wrote (>): > you might try to disabable light sleep and see if > it helps, of course than the machine will go > through batteries like crazy. Thanks, I'll try it. What exactly does light sleep do anyway? Does it idle = the processor when nothing is happening? The battery consumption is = probably not an issue, as I'm using external power. I suppose I can use = lxstat to switch light sleep off and on again in the batchfile that starts = the HfFax software. > if the author isn't > interested in supporting the palmtop your problem > isn't going to get fixed. No, probably not, but I was hoping that if I tell him exactly what causes = the problem, he might be persuaded to help. I know it's a long shot, as at = the moment, they don't even seem to be interested in selling me the DOS = version of the software. :o( There is a new WindoZe version, but I don't want to use my WindoZe computer = for this. The difference in power consumption is quite staggering. The HP = draws 40mA when listening for weatherfaxes, the Toshiba draws 5A when = powered by my 12V DC to 220V AC inverter. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:59:23 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: eGroups (Was Abandonware) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ken London wrote (>): > I will repeat...I was not a member of egroups and > never signed up...I was > replying to a message that was sent to me. Yes, I understood this. However, your reply obviously somehow was sent to = the address of an eGroups list. Since you are not a member of the list, you = got an error message, which I gather from your e-mail was a rather nasty = one. My point was that the only way I can see that your reply did get sent = to the address of the list is if the person you were trying to reach made = an error, so the problem was caused by user error. PS. How does it feel to have a large city named after you? :o) Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:06:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Need TSR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What I would like is a TSR that will send a series of keystrokes to the > program is the foreground at a user-selected time. Are you running the weatherfax program from inside System Manager? If so, = the Appt application might work for you. If not, there are some programs = around that let your alarms "go off" even if you have closed System Manager. = One of these might be useful. I think PIM from www.dasoft.com can do this, and flexpad at www.palmtop.net probably can as well. I am just guessing, = however. I have not actually done this. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:06:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Does anybody know where I can find palmtop <--> PC connectivity software > for the HP 95LX? The Filer to Filer connection is the same for the 95LX, 100LX, and 200LX. = At least, my 100LX could connect to my desktop using the 95LX version of the connectivity pack. So, if all you want is to send files back and forth, = any version of the Connectivity pack should work. Another option is zip.com, look for zip.zip at www.palmtop.net Finally, I have a copy of the HP95LX connectivity pack on two 5.25 inch = disks. If you can read the disks, I will let you buy them cheap. If not, I = might be able to find a computer at work with a 5.25 inch disk drive and convert = them to 3.5 inch disk(s). Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:27:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: WTB: Modem Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Jeff, I never heard if you were interested in the modem. (I'm guessing you probably got bombarded with offers from the LX list). If you are still looking for a modem, let me know... Mike... P.S. Didn't I sell you a card reader a while back? Jeff wrote: > Does anyone have a 56K modem (ISA or PCI) that may be lying around and > gathering dust that they might like to get rid of at an el cheapo price? I > just finished building my son a new computer for his room from spare parts > (PII, 64MB) and all I lack is a modem. > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 20:29:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > What exactly does light sleep do anyway? > Does it idle the processor when nothing is happening? Exactly. When the HP is waiting for key input, it idles the processor something like 66% of each second. The idea is that people type slowly = enough not to notice. So, Memo does this but I never notice. Programs that = mainly do some calculation, but also check to see if the user has pressed something = like ESC wil be slowed dramatically by light sleep. Plugging in the AC adaptor shuts off light sleep mode, since battery consumption is not a factor then. So, if you already use the AC adaptor = then this is not relavent. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:33:38 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Hung Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Hung Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software Comments: To: paul pila In-Reply-To: <981852333026691@caramail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The link cable is the same for HP95LX and HP48 calculator. I bought mine and it is stated for use with HP48 calc too. There was also a adaptor to fit in and then can use for HP100 and HP200LX. At 12:45 AM 2/11/01 +0000, you wrote: >About the link cable, do you know if the electric >connections are the same, what for the HP48 calculators? >please to answer if you are sure! > > Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 01:51:33 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: MOO client? Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:34:06 -0500, Kimberly Allegretto wrote: > > > > Can anyone recommend a DOS MOO client that works well on the 200LX? > > OK, I give up. What is a MOO client? Dairygold Milk! (gd and cow tip!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:05:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London wrote: > They day I canncelled compuserve was one of the happiest days > of my life. It is not clear from this what you REALLY feel about Compuserve. Can you be more specific? .... Just kiddin'... In the last week I have been dialing 2-3 times for each connection. Their rotten service is getting to me, esp. since I have the unlimited account (premium bucks) and I use them a lot, also when I travel, but the disconnection rate and unsuccessful call rate is beginning to climb higher than the $24.95 per month. I am looking for an alternative with a large number of POPs worldwide. I know about UUNET, anyone else? Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:05:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 and orgasmatron device Comments: To: hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HP Staber wrote: > A recent version of Netscape is supposed to sync with the palmtops > ToDo. I never tried it. Avi should know. Not really. I used a Calendar that came with Netscape 4.0.7 Pro, but that was a loong time ago. I have not looked at this in a long time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 03:44:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: New version of weatherfax software locks keyboard. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Larry Tachna wrote (>): > you might try to disabable light sleep and see if > it helps I tried it just now. It didn't help :o( Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 23:04:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Ken London wrote: > > > They day I canncelled compuserve was one of the happiest days > > of my life. > > It is not clear from this what you REALLY feel about > Compuserve. Can you be more specific? .... > > Just kiddin'... In the last week I have been dialing 2-3 times > for each connection. Their rotten service is getting to me, > esp. since I have the unlimited account (premium bucks) and I > use them a lot, also when I travel, but the disconnection rate > and unsuccessful call rate is beginning to climb higher than > the $24.95 per month. I am looking for an alternative with a > large number of POPs worldwide. I know about UUNET, anyone > else? > > Avi M. If you are looking for an alternative try DSL....I now have a DSL account for only a few dollars more and the company I get it through is great. Considering what compuserve was charging and my phone bill was jacked up by compuserve the DSL line is turning out to be cheaper, much faster and much more reliable. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:49:53 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Hplx & Deskjet350CBI/Anyone we know in Budapest? Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: > > Hi > > She is taking about a Hp Deskjet 350 CBI. I do not know this printer at > all. Can she use it with the Hplx and can she use it over irda? > I use the HP DJ 340CBI with IR with nothing fancy, just plain text printing with no problems. The 350CBI is an updated model. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:55:23 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London wrote: > A Meshar wrote: > > > Ken London wrote: > > > > > They day I canncelled compuserve was one of the happiest days > > > of my life. > > > > It is not clear from this what you REALLY feel about > > Compuserve. Can you be more specific? .... > > > > Just kiddin'... In the last week I have been dialing 2-3 times > > for each connection. Their rotten service is getting to me, > > esp. since I have the unlimited account (premium bucks) and I > > use them a lot, also when I travel, but the disconnection rate > > and unsuccessful call rate is beginning to climb higher than > > the $24.95 per month. I am looking for an alternative with a > > large number of POPs worldwide. I know about UUNET, anyone > > else? > > > > Avi M. > > If you are looking for an alternative try DSL.... DSL? While travelling? I have no problems with connections at _home_ using Ricochet 128kbps - gives all the speed I need (of course I _want_ 50000mbps ...) The CIS account is used at home only for palmtop and rarely on desktop, and while I travel - I really need to be able to connect from where I travel. CIS is really not such good service, but they have nodes - all over! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 09:08:01 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > >>It got so bad I > >>regretfully, finally, cancelled my account. I simply wasn't getting > >>anything for my money. > > ditto here and what a surprise my new isp connections seem much faster = even > at the same connection speed compared to CIS. It's true that the CIS login script takes longer than a standard CHAP dial up process. The connection is very stable though and I prefer CIS although I have different and "faster" dial up ISP's. Sorry to see you leave CIS ;-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:32:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Netscape Communicator with Enterprise Calendar & Sync with LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We use Netscape Calendar where I work...(Netscape Communicator with Enterprise Calendar version 4.7 I think) (I set it up to sync with all of our Palm users). It is an OK program. I took a few minutes a year or two ago to review the docs for syncing with an LX, but can't remember the details. If you're interested in downloading a copy, you can find it at: ftp://archive.netscape.com/archive/communicator/english/4.7/windows/windows9 5_or_nt/professional_edition/cp32e47.exe Have fun, Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:27:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: French bises to all MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > French bises to all What are French bises? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:34:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: CIS forums MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I use it regularily. However I feel that CIS is > going down the toilett and forums will die > sooner or later :( I had a CIS account since either the late 70s or early 80s, I forget exactly when I started. Then I began using comp.sys.palmtop and didn't call in to CIS for a few months. This was a couple of years ago. When I finally did I was unable to find any trace of HPHAND or several other forums I frequented. And the few I did find had been reduced to a single message base within a larger group. I wasn't able to find much in the libraries. Most of the people who participated in the past on the few forums I found were no longer participating. That's when I dropped my CIS account, after almost 20 years. I hated to do it but it was a hollow shell. What is there now? Anything? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:53:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 9 Feb 2001 to 10 Feb 2001 (#2001-59) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > OK, I give up. What is a MOO client? It's a client to a MOO. They also work with MUDs, MUSHs and MUCKs, etc. These are games developed for use over telnet on the internet before the WWW came along. MUD was the original, I think. There's an argument over whether that stands for Multi-User Domain or Multi-User Dungeon. They both fit very well. Imagine playing an Infocom text adventure game, such as Zork. But the characters you run into are not programmed into the game, they're other people who have logged into the game. Each creates a name and various characteristics for themselves that others can see. They can communicate and interrelate in a variety of ways, not only with one another but with the MUD itself. Basically you live there. You find ways to earn money. You make friends or join groups. You build your residence, or rent a pre-existing one. You purchase things, or make them. And, in most of them, you fight battles and sometimes die. The MUSHs were more social oriented. The same basic structure but there were no battles to fight. You tried to achieve status by accumulating things and show it off to other people. I'm not sure but I've been told that cybersex was invented in MUDs or MUSHs. There were bars and street corners and other places to meet people of the opposite sex. There were places to go together, bars, dance halls, etc. Also long walks or drives or train rides through a totally coherent city. And cheap hotels. I haven't seen one in years. I'm sure they're still around. They might just be the most elaborate thing ever developed on the internet. The WWW is flashier and snazzier and bigger and easier to use and everybody knows about it, but compared to MUDs the WWW is pretty simple stuff. Also, they were totally free. The builders built it for fun. They even allowed others to continue building it by building in programming languages to add or modify it that you could get access to. And it all worked and was usually relatively peaceful. And everything was text. Today most people seem to think the WWW is the internet. It isn't. Think of WWW as the internet for dummies. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 07:59:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Need TSR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>> I have no idea where FAKEY.COM came from and there is no copyright information in the program. I've had it for 15 years or so. It almost got deleted when I got my Toshiba, but for some reason I decided to hang onto my folder of little DOS utilities. Now that I have the HPLX, I'm glad I did! <<<<<<<<<<<<< There are a lot of programs around like fakey, many of them with source code, all of them with a lot of overlapping features and wrinkles of their own. Check simtelnet. You'll have to do a little searching for what you want. But any dos user that hasn't learned his way around simtelnet yet certainly needs to spend the time to do so. You can get HTML access to simtelnet at http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/ Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:06:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>> Does anybody know where I can find palmtop <--> PC connectivity software for the HP 95LX? I have a homebuilt link cable but have been unable to find any software that will let me use it. I would really appreciate it if anyone could tell me where I might find the necessary software. Thanks. <<<<<<<<<<< Assuming you're trying to connect to windows you can use the built in software and Hyperterminal Private Edition. The Hyperterminal that came with win95 had bugs that kept kermit from working properly. I'm not sure if that's true of win98 or later versions of Hyperterminal, but in any case there is a free replacement with new features and bugs fixed that you can download from www.hillgraeve.com. It's a worthy program and I used it with the 95lx kermit when I first got win95. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:18:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: MOO client MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Laust is right, I should try > to run a program on a UNIX host. I remember that, even with a unix shell account the only good terminal program I could find with a good enough vt102 emulator for MUDs was Windows Terminal, that came with Win3.1. It was my reason for installing win3.1 on my home computer. The people who made it, FutureSoft, also made a commercial program called DynaCom that provided telnet with a PPP connection and used the same interface. It also worked very well. I'm not sure if they're still around but the program should be around somewhere. I probably even have a copy somewhere in my archives. This is a very sloppy program but the emulation was pretty solid. It's the only one I used on a PC that was. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 22:19:05 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Engr Hung KH Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Engr Hung KH Subject: Hyperterminal - (was: Re: 95LX Link Software) Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Microsoft has an updated Hyperterminal program in their web site. Go download it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software > >The > Hyperterminal that came with win95 had bugs that kept kermit > from working properly. I'm not sure if that's true of win98 or > later versions of Hyperterminal, but in any case there is a free > replacement with new features and bugs fixed that you can > download from www.hillgraeve.com. It's a worthy program and I > used it with the 95lx kermit when I first got win95. > > Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:27:34 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 95lx Link cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > About the link cable, do you know if the electric > connections are the same, what for the HP48 > calculators? please to answer if you are sure! The HP48 cable is the same as the 95lx cable. The 200lx cable with the 95lx adapter that comes with it will also work with both units. HP screwed up with the HP49 cable. It's identical to the 200lx cable but the 200lx cable will fry (very quickly) the HP49. That's the kind of attention to detail we used to be able to rely on from the HP that used to be. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:17:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K In-Reply-To: <008a01c091f9$e0f4d5c0$7b1d0e0a@penickrh40w> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 11.02.2001, 16:15, Bob Penick wrote: > I am real confused why this is such a problem for so many people. I am > currently running the connectivity pack on a Win2K machine with no proble= ms. Lucky guy! I'm able to run Cpack unter Win98 but not under Win2k - on the same machine, with the same ports and the same settings of Cpack. I have my modem on COM1, the 200lx is on COM2, mouse on PS/2, and I simply don't get a connection ("No connection" error). What is your hardware setup=3F Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:23:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HP Staber wrote: > It's true that the CIS login script takes longer than a standard CHAP > dial up process. The connection is very stable though and I prefer CIS > although I have different and "faster" dial up ISP's. Sorry to see you > leave CIS ;-) I think many of us experience CIS differently - the login per se is not nearly as much an issue as being disconnected (AOL-style), and having to dial several times before there is a connection to the login server. My personal troubles with them are these two. Lately it takes 2-3 dials before there is even a login server on the other side. With the palmtop it reaches the point of modem answering, and a disconnect DURING the handshake. On the desktop there is another phenomenon: The connection wil take place in terms of handshake, and then - nothing, it is like the other modem at CIS side just fell off the face of the earth! Once this happens, it continues consistently unless I take a 5 minutes break. Very annoying. The other problem experienced on palmtop and desktop alike (more on the desktop), lately on the rise, is a sudden disconnect - in mid-download, upload, no matter what - just a sudden disconnect. (Then of course, I have to dial up again, and that can take 2-3 attempts, of course :-( ...) The connections are anywhere from 36,000 to 49000 baud, and they are actually achieving those speeds more or less when I measure them. I haven't left CIS, yet, but my loyalty is no longer with them and I am looking. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:40:07 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: French bises to all Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zut alors! Naughty Nathalie sends French kisses to all, and some of them are wasted. Richard Barry wrote: > > French bises to all > > What are French bises? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:42:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > > DSL? While travelling? Never travel...so I'm always accessing email from home. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:13:04 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London wrote: > If you are looking for an alternative try DSL....I now have a DSL > account for only a few dollars more and the company I get it through is Can you connect to DSL with an LX running WWWLX? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 11:23:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Need TSR Comments: To: bob@PALMTOP.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob; I seem to remember having an old DOS TSR called SMARTKEY.COM that was really good at keyboard macros, but I can't remember if it would do them on a timed basis. I'll have to look around and see if I can find it and some documentation, too. Give me some time... Richard > I need a TSR that will: > launch Goin' Postal > send the F9 scancode to retrieve/deliver my mail > close Goin' Postal after some period of time, say 5 minutes > wait a specfied amount of time (say 30 minutes) > repeat > I have an older laptop that would be great as nothing more > than an email machine that would run on automatic while I am > away. > Any ideas? > Bob > Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com > HP 200-LX Palmtop > = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 13:55:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: Russel Brooks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Russel Brooks wrote: > Ken London wrote: > > If you are looking for an alternative try DSL....I now have a DSL > > account for only a few dollars more and the company I get it through is > > Can you connect to DSL with an LX running WWWLX? > > Cheers... Russ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml I've never tried it....anyone else know? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 14:15:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: CIS forums MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >That's when I dropped my CIS account, after almost 20 years. I >hated to do it but it was a hollow shell. What is there now? >Anything? I still visit the Palmtop Forum and SciFan Forum on Compuserve. A brand = new 100LX user has been learning about his palmtop for the remaining regulars = on the forum this past week. Things are not what they used to be, but I still Compuserve as my primary = ISP. I have not had the connection problems that others have, and I like the multiple nodes all over for travel. I have gotten my own domain name, so I can drop Compuserve and not worry = about changing my E-mail address. So, I have taken some precautions Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:41:23 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Need TSR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steve Carder wrote (>): > Are you running the weatherfax program from > inside System Manager? If so, the Appt application > might work for you. No, I'm booting to pure DOS. I've written a batch file that copies a = different AUTOEXEC.BAT file to the root of A: and then reboots the palmtop. = I run this batch file from Appt to start the program. > If not, there are some programs around that > let your alarms "go off" even if you have closed > System Manager. One of these might be useful. Is it possible to get Appt or one of these programs to send a series of = keystrokes to a DOS program while it's running? I use FAKEY.COM to send the = keystrokes to get the program into auto receive mode, but FAKEY.COM cannot = wait longer than 255 seconds, and I need 7 or 8 hours. > I think PIM from www.dasoft.com can do this, > and flexpad at www.palmtop.net probably can as > well. Are any of these freeware or shareware with a trial period? Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:58:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: CIS forums MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry > > That's when I dropped my CIS account, after almost 20 years. I > hated to do it but it was a hollow shell. What is there now? > Anything? The international nodes and a few hardliners are left. HPHAND was merged with PALMTOPS forum after traffic started to cease. Now traffic at PALMTOP is not enough to live and not enough to die. Well ... :-} HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:59:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: French bises to all Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > > > French bises to all > > What are French bises? Kisses (g) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:59:59 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, > > Does it have for physical serial ports with places to plug > > things into all four? > > Yes 4 physical ports. > > Connecitity pack would only recognize port 1, doesn't see port 2 3 or = 4. I *cannot* confirm this. At present I use it on port 2. Did you setup port 2? Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:01:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: "Guenther Helmuth E." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Guenther Helmuth E." wrote: > Did you setup port 2? When the system boots up it already recognizes all 4 serial ports. Does that mean they are set up? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:47:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: French bises to all Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "HP Staber" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: Re: French bises to all Barry wrote: > > > French bises to all > > What are French bises? Kisses (g) Is that the French word for kisses, or a typo? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:00:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fiso Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fiso Subject: Anyone we know in Budapest? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Martin and All, I don't quite understand his/her problem, but I am in Budapest and an LX user. BR, Georg >Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:19:29 -0500 >From: Martin Bergvill >Subject: Hplx & Deskjet350CBI/Anyone we know in Budapest? > >Hi > >Got a email from a Hplxuser I know. He has a friend which is in >Budapest at the moment. ....... >.........Does anyone know a Hplxstore or a hplxuser in Budapest which she can >talk/mail to about Hplx vs printers in Budapest? P.S.: There is no HPLX-store at Budapest at all. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:50:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200102111623.IAA10603@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Lately it takes 2-3 dials before there is even a login server >>on the other side. you think that's bad just wait until the node rings endlessly never even picking up the phone so frustrating! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:02:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: 95lx Link cable In-Reply-To: <002101c09436$c6dd2360$8afc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 11 Feb 2001, Barry wrote: > HP screwed up with the HP49 cable. It's identical to the 200lx > cable but the 200lx cable will fry (very quickly) the HP49. > That's the kind of attention to detail we used to be able to > rely on from the HP that used to be. Hardly surprising. The HP49 is designed significantly different from HP's eariler calcs, and not in Corvallis (sp?) either. The initial release had a lot of bugs as well, IIRC. Not like "good old" HP calculators (or the 95-100-200LX). And what's with moving the ENTER key? :-) Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:27:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Anyone we know in Budapest? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:00:50 +0100, Fiso wrote: > Hi Martin and All, Hi > I don't quite understand his/her problem, but I am in Budapest and an LX > user. Do not worry this "problem" has been taking care of. :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:32:16 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I also have a shrink-wrapped box with 95LX connection cable and software > (by Nuvotech) that I got on a whim (but never used), and would sell that > for $16. > > There are probably lots of shareware and freeware alternatives as well, tho > since I don't have a 95LX, I'll fess up that I don't know the particulars. Now that you mention it, I think that zip (not the compression program) works for the HP95? Might it be located on one of the hp files' sites? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:01:52 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Need TSR Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Bob; > > I seem to remember having an old DOS TSR called SMARTKEY.COM > that was really good at keyboard macros, but I can't remember if > it would do them on a timed basis. I'll have to look around and > see if I can find it and some documentation, too. Give me some > time... It can be paused for a certain time in either seconds, minutes or hours. But then there is the Omnikey which can be activated by clock time, I gather. Amazing program. Been using it since my Osborne. Still use it on the hp and on my desktop in dos windows under win98! Some of us will never give certain tools up. And I've never found anything like it for windows. Close, but not with the 'smartkey' trigger. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 04:02:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: CIS forums Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I still visit the Palmtop Forum and SciFan Forum on Compuserve. A brand new > 100LX user has been learning about his palmtop for the remaining regulars on > the forum this past week. And it is nice to still see you and a few others there! (G) > > Things are not what they used to be, but I still Compuserve as my primary ISP. > I have not had the connection problems that others have, and I like the > multiple nodes all over for travel. And it was great going to the cdforum when I was learning about cd-rw issues and learning how to burn cd's copied from my old lp's! But I'm also having node problems such as Avi discussed. Answers and "silence." Answered and hangup. Answers and bad data which causes loops and lockups! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:46:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , riley@IGLOU.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Riley Subject: FS Megahertz worldport pocket fax modem In-Reply-To: with ac adaptor uses 9v battery trade for flash card or ? thanks mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:11:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Need TSR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Are any of these freeware or shareware with a trial period? PIM is freeware from www.dasoft.com and Flexpad is (I believe) shareware = and should be found at www.palmtop.net Again, I am guessing, but you might turn up a gem if you sift enough. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:51:14 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Re: DSL and LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've never tried it....anyone else know? Theoretically, if you have an ethernet card and the proper ethernet drivers running, you could plug into a home router that is plugged into a DSL line and have internet access. You would have to configure a home DSL/internet router (whether that is a box you've purchased that contains a hub/switch and DHCP server internally, or is a Linux/BSD/Win2K/98 box configured to share an internet connection) ~Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 03:58:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: French bises to all Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002201c09474$35311460$54fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi That is the common slang word for a kiss. Salutations de Andrew Lovell At 15:47 11/02/2001 -0600, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "HP Staber" >To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" > >Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2001 1:59 PM >Subject: Re: French bises to all > > >Barry wrote: >> >> > French bises to all >> >> What are French bises? > >Kisses (g) > >Is that the French word for kisses, or a typo? > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:37:31 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi, > I think many of us experience CIS differently - the login per > se is not nearly as much an issue as being disconnected > (AOL-style), and having to dial several times before there is > a connection to the login server. My personal troubles with > them are these two. I have troubles also but could not pin it down to CIS. I need multiple tries to connect with my Thaddeus 56k (thats both at home as well as through the company network). The Megahertz 1414 works immediately with the same modem settings which worked for the 56k modem for a year now :-( Connection with the Nokia works also while trying to use my other ISP's and the 56k modem regularily fails as it fails with CIS. > I haven't left CIS, yet, but my loyalty is no longer with them > and I am looking. I'm still loyal but have prepared my escape route. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:49:11 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: MS Schedule v7 and Import/Export v3 and orgasmatron device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I used MS Schedule for quite a while and synchronised with the LX using Intellilink. That product was replaced by Intellisync, now owned by Puma Tachnologies. It worked pretty well, and would certainly transfer appointments and ToDos on a good day. I recall there were bugs with ToDos, but I never really used them. Unfortunately I had to move to Outlook, and as you may have seen from several threads on this list, while there are tools (confusingly two called OL2LX that are different) I've never been successful. I believe it works fine if the LX is always 'Master' and you do a one-way copy. I need to do both ways. So Schedule+ is fine and synchs well with the LX, including the ability to work with 'local files' on the PC, i.e. you can synch and then use the CPACK copy of the appointment book...if you are that dedicated to the LX look and feel. I've not used the Netscape calendar, so I can't compare it to Schedule+. SCH+ is nice in that it uses files, which you can e-mail people if they need a copy of your calendar. William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:06:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Winfried Zettelmeyer Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Winfried Zettelmeyer Subject: Another 123 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As Klaus Reinhardts Lotus question was successfully solved - I think by Barry - here is another one for the HPLX-Lotus community: With a macro, I want to Xtract a range from a worksheet and save it to a file WITH A NAME CONTAINED IN ONE OF THE CELLS. Manually, the route would be: MENU, FILE, XTRACT, VALUES, name of file to extraxt to, RETURN, extract range, RETURN This corresponds to the macro: /fsv{?}~a1..n60~ (a1..n60 is the extract range). Whereas the extract range remains fixed and is, therefore, put as such into the macro, the name changes. Question: Can I substitute the question mark after /fsv which pauses the macro to allow the name to be input by hand, with something that quotes the contents of a cell ? Barry, is that something for you ? Best regards and thanks in advance Winfried ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:17:38 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software In-Reply-To: <20010212033213.FYXE7519.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, F. Kaufman wrote: > > There are probably lots of shareware and freeware alternatives as well, tho > > since I don't have a 95LX, I'll fess up that I don't know the particulars. > > Now that you mention it, I think that zip (not the compression program) > works for the HP95? Might it be located on one of the hp files' sites? True. ZIP.COM has built-in support for the 95LX: http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/zip212.zip What about Transfile 200? has anyone tried it with a 95LX? Regards, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:30:39 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Need TSR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If Smartkey.com will launch GP, send the F9 scancode to allow for mail retrieval, send the F10 scancode to exit GP and then wait, say, 30 minutes and repeat the process - please send me the utility. Thanks to all. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 06:45:41 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Joseph.Buford@HSC.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Joe Buford Subject: Change in your subscription options for the HPLX-L list Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Al. I feel privileged to be subscribed to 2 listserv's that are run so well. (HPLX-L and Electric Vehicles) especially after hearing the horror stories about other listserv's. Thanks for the help and continued service to the HPlx world community. I salute you. Joe Buford HPlx user since 1992 (100lx 1mb, 100lx 2mb, 200lx 2mb, 200lx DS 6mb +48mb Simpletech CF) ---------------------- Forwarded by Joseph E Buford/ES/HSC/HUGHES on 02/12/2001 06:39 AM --------------------------- "L-Soft list server at U. of Connecticut (1.8d)" on 02/11/2001 08:57:16 PM Please respond to HPLX-L-request@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU To: Joe Buford cc: Subject: Change in your subscription options for the HPLX-L list Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:57:16 Al Kind has just altered your subscription options for the HPLX-L list as per the "SET HPLX-L DIGESTS" command. For more information about subscription options, send a "QUERY HPLX-L" command to LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:06:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 95lx Link cable MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>> Hardly surprising. The HP49 is designed significantly different from HP's eariler calcs, and not in Corvallis (sp?) either. The initial release had a lot of bugs as well, IIRC. Not like "good old" HP calculators (or the 95-100-200LX). And what's with moving the ENTER key? :-) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< While the initial release did have a lot of bugs, it was released before it was ready to try to get it into the stores in time for school. But it seems they had production problems and didn't do that either. Then the development team began a very interesting process. HP hired a bunch of the really good HP calc hackers to do the roms on the 49 and they all hung out on comp.sys.hp48 already. So comp.sys.hp48 became the forum for continuing the design of the 49 roms. The users maintained and ongoing dialog with the developers and made suggestions which were implemented, offered solutions to problems, asked for new features. It really became a joint effort on the newsgroup. Of course the developers made the final decisions but they were really open about suggestions and trying new ideas. I've never seen anything quite like this before. As for moving the Enter key, that was for the same reason they added HP Basic. To appeal to large numbers of students. When you buy it it's in basic and algebraic mode. RPN has to be turned on. It's not the same calc anymore. It tries too hard to be all things to all people. And, of course, it isn't. But it's still a very impressive tool. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:16:14 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Global Roaming (was: Compuserve on the 200lx) Avi and others, From what I understand, the main advantages of Compuserve were: 1. The community of users (forums etc) 2. Being able to access from all over the world. With regard to 2. A lot of ISP's are members of "Global Roaming" (Gric?) which allow you for a small additional fee to connect to other Global Roaming ISP's while travelling. I am connected to Netvision here in Israel and was able to use this srvice to connect with my HPLX using local calls in Thailand, Sydney and Melbourne, with few problems. I remember that in Melbourne for example I couldnt connect to "telstra" but could use "connect.com" instead. In most major cities there are 3 or 4 ISPs which are members of Global Roaming. The other problem that I had was difficulty in downloading newsgroups, because most ISPs will only let you connect to their news servers if you connect from one of their POPs. (News was not really supported by GRIC). However for emails it was great. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:04:26 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Database of NavTex stations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I just finished creating a database of all the NavTex stations in the world = from information found on the ICS website. = (http://www.icselectronics.co.uk) At present the file is in EPOC data = format, so it's not all that useful to HPLX users, but if there are any = fellow mariners on this list who would like it, I can easily export it to = TAB-separated format or whatever. Send me an e-mail off list if you're = interested. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:35:28 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: still project management MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi listlers, I'm still struggling with my project 'project management' on the LX. What I'm looking for is a small and fancy program which run on both , the LX as well as under Win98 or .. DOS ( preferred !!) Is anyone who can help to get it done ? Any help is appreciated, thanks regards, Michael ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:12:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Global Roaming (was: Compuserve on the 200lx) In-Reply-To: <200101120816.PNR01422@netmedia.net.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, David Becher wrote: > The other problem that I had was difficulty in downloading newsgroups, because > most ISPs will only let you connect to their news servers if you connect > from one of their POPs. (News was not really supported by GRIC). However for > emails it was great. I've run into this problem too (remote access to Usenet). One workaround I use is to: 1. telnet to a server which has slrn and a news server 2. mark and export the messages I want to read 3. ftp the resulting file to my 200LX 4. rename the file to incoming.nws 5. move the file to my PNR inbox directory 6. thread the messages with PNRTI 7. use PNR to read the messages One advantage of this process is that I get to use the excellent scoring capabilities of slrn to select the messages. Drawbacks are that it is tedious (no way to export a whole group without marking each message), and that posting is usually not possible. One caveat: you must be sure to have read all news (or have renamed the existing incoming.nws file) *before* copying the downloaded file into your inbox! Hope this is helpful for someone. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 10:58:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: DSL and LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > I've never tried it....anyone else know? > > Theoretically, if you have an ethernet card and the proper ethernet drivers > running, you could plug into a home router that is plugged into a DSL line > and have internet access. You would have to configure a home DSL/internet > router (whether that is a box you've purchased that contains a hub/switch > and DHCP server internally, or is a Linux/BSD/Win2K/98 box configured to > share an internet connection) I use lxen2216 with an Accton card to connect over DSL with my LX. The LXTCP applications and WWW/LX all work fine. I have a static ip, so I could connect the LX directly to the DSL "modem", but I connect it to a linux box which masquerades a private network behind it. With a DHCP assigned IP, perhaps one could use dhcp.exe from Dasoft for a direct connection, or the setup suggested above. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:01:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Hello all, According to F-Secure (famous for F-prot antivius) right now (1900CET) a new Love-Letter-like e-mail malware is spreading at light speed through the Internet. It is currently in an Anna Kournikova topic/attachment letter. Everyone with a Windoze desktop be aware! Major antivirus firms should have database update or hotfix patch within 4- 5 hours. Sorry for deliberately omitting FLUFF flag. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:07:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Please do not send out virus alerts. They can clog e-mail systems just as badly as real viruses. Note that most anitvirus companies recommend against sending alerts, as many are false. (As this one might be -- I just checked the F-Secure site and could find no reference to this virus). Bob -----Original Message----- From: Feher Tamas Ýmailto:etomcat@FREEMAIL.HU¨ Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:01 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Hello all, According to F-Secure (famous for F-prot antivius) right now (1900CET) a new Love-Letter-like e-mail malware is spreading at light speed through the Internet. It is currently in an Anna Kournikova topic/attachment letter. Everyone with a Windoze desktop be aware! Major antivirus firms should have database update or hotfix patch within 4- 5 hours. Sorry for deliberately omitting FLUFF flag. Sincerely Yours: Tamas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:37:23 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Need TSR Comments: cc: "owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 10 Feb 2001, at 15:42, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > What I would like is a TSR that will send a series of keystrokes to > the program is the foreground at a user-selected time. No need for any > repeats. What I want to do is send "ESC, ESC, Q" to my weatherfax > program to close it at 16:00. I'm using FAKEY.COM to get the program > into auto receive mode, so the batchfile would look something like: > > FAKEY "a" wait 1 "s" > NEWTSR 16:00 ESC ESC "q" > HFFAX > I have a TSR on my disk which did exactly what you want on my dos desktop pc years ago. It was made by the german ham Wolfgang DK4EK. I did not try if it works on the HP200, but if you want to try, I can send it to you off list. The docu is german. 73! de Werner OE9FWV -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:56:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Current status of weatherfax project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I've written a report on my experiences with weatherfax reception using the = HP200LX. It contains quite a bit of information which would be useful = should any of you wish to try this. Some of the information is particular = to the HPLX, but most of it will prove useful whatever computer you decide = to use. Since it is rather too long for the list, I won't post it here, but = you are welcome to e-mail me off list if you would like to receive it. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:16:00 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken, > "Guenther Helmuth E." wrote: > > > Did you setup port 2? > > When the system boots up it already recognizes all 4 serial ports. > Does that mean they are set up? I am not sure, if I do understand your question properly. Here the connectivity pack allows to setup serial ports: F6 allows you to setup port 3 and 4 Filer: ... allows you to select port 1, 2 ... I am using the german version, maybe the english version is different. Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:17:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feher Tamas wrote: > Hello all, > > According to F-Secure (famous for F-prot antivius) right > now (1900CET) a new Love-Letter-like e-mail malware is > spreading at light speed through the Internet. It is > currently in an Anna Kournikova topic/attachment letter. > Everyone with a Windoze desktop be aware! Major antivirus > firms should have database update or hotfix patch within 4- > 5 hours. This report was confirmed on CNBC. One unique feature of this virus is that it changes it's signature. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:21:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > Please do not send out virus alerts. This one is not false...many news outlets are reporting the existence of this virus. I normally don't like to see e-mail notices of viruses but this is turning out not to be a hoax I subscribe to the philosohy that it is better to be safe than sorry. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:26:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.msnbc.com/news/529834.asp ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:37:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , stan.hplx@VERIZON.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stanley Dobrowski Subject: Re: FLUFF: My SETI Stats MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi wrote: > Wow! you mean for discovering a SETI item? Stan who was in da-seti left = for > a nother group and I think that group gives some cash prize if you = discover > something Actually, I left SETI for the www.distributed.net RC5 project for many reasons, not one of which was the cash prize. I found the SETI clients difficult to manage, they caused a few system problems, each one needed access to the Internet, and the work units were rather large to download. I prefer the DNETC project because the the work units were much smaller and easier to manage, the clients can be remotely controlled over a network, I could have a single machine on the network act as the local keyserver with the clients reporting to it while my single keyserver reports to the DNETC keyservers, and there is a definite finding and conclusion to this project when the 64-bit encryption code is broken. Stan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:02:44 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: DSL and LX Sean McKay writes: > Theoretically, if you have an ethernet card and the proper ethernet drivers > running, you could plug into a home router that is plugged into a DSL line > and have internet access. You would have to configure a home DSL/internet > router (whether that is a box you've purchased that contains a hub/switch > and DHCP server internally, or is a Linux/BSD/Win2K/98 box configured to > share an internet connection) I would be most interested in hearing if anyone has tried this. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:38:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! In-Reply-To: <3A8853DF.B545A4F5@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > > > Please do not send out virus alerts. > > This one is not false...many news outlets are > reporting the existence of this virus. I normally > don't like to see e-mail notices of viruses but > this is turning out not to be a hoax I subscribe to > the philosohy that it is better to be safe than sorry. *sigh*. This is a mailing-list for the HPLX. What was posted was an alert for a Windows (cannot infect the LX!), most likely Outlook-specific, virus. Genuine or not it doesn't belong here. I'm sure there are excellent virus-alert mailing-lists that people can subscribe to (not a bad idea if you use that pitiful Microsoft program) if they so desire. I think this was what Robert was referring to, not the validity of the alert. You don't see Linux or HP/UX or security alerts for other systems posted here, and nor should they be. Why people don't simply stop using Outlook is beyond me... Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:48:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: YAHOO Email access with Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The short answer is yes, of course. The details: Yahoo will provide a free email account, accessible on the Web (http://mail.yahoo.com). To access this account from email packages suchas Post/LX (my favorite :-) ...) You need to go a few more steps. Login to the Yahoo account on the Web - won't work with HV. 1. Click on Options, then "Yahoo Delivers", choose YES, that you wish to participate voluntarily in Yahoo's junk mail marketing program. This is a controversial step in my mind. I tested this with two accounts with identical demographics (minimal) (except the name and id, of course). I have no idea how they decide to whom to send email. In one account I got more junk mail than made sense and I had to abandon the account (sent them an email cancelling the account, and never looked at it again.) The other account got nothing! Your experience may be different. When you finish, you will be able to access the email from other mail packages. Otherwise their pop3 server will claim an error in the id and/or password. 3. Here are the changes to Post/LX: Add a mailbox and provide: SMTP=smtp.mail.yahoo.com Login=whatever it is Pass=Enter this via SETUP PopFirst=1 --->>>> See comment POP=pop.mail.yahoo.com (Note- to add PopFirst=1 you will need to edit POST.CFG and add the line manually in the proper section. The other items can be set up in the SETUP screens.) This mailbox is handled by Post/LX just like any other mailbox. Send and receive is fine... Here is a test email I sent to myself: Headers and all minus the id I do not need more email ... ---------- X-UIDL: ea191995426b357edb53b2f309999feb Return-Path: xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com Ý216.136.174.114¨) by ftel.net (8.8.5/8.6.9-fnet) with SMTP id RAA22785 for ; Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:25:43 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:25:43 -0800 From: xxxxxxxxxx@yahoo.com Message-Id: Received: from sfr-tgn-sfs-vty26.as.wcom.net (HELO yahoo.com) (216.192.38.26) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2001 01:25:34 -0000 X-Apparently-From: To: sponsor@ftel.net Subject: test message for HPLX X-Mailer: POST/LX 3.1a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-UIDL: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxedb53b2f309999feb Testing testing Avi _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ---------- That's about it! Hope this is helpful to someone here... Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:30:42 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Focus group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, I'm going to a focus group on PDA's tomorrow night. Of course, I'm bringing my trusted 200LX. Send me some lists (point form) of things that truly make the LX unique (as opposed to the CE/Palm machines). I know most of it, but I want to make sure I don't miss a chance to crush the competition :-) Also, perhaps a quick point form list of what combination of features would be enough to let go of your LX. Woohoo! Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:18:10 +0800 Reply-To: jimmytan@yeos.com.my Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jimmy Tan Thiam Hin Subject: FLUFF: Red Planet Comments: To: "HPLX Mailing List Mike Schneider" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi fellow earthling LX-ers, If you are a colonist on Mars, how will you track and manage your time? One Martian day is equivalent to approximately 25 Earth hours. So if you are using your trusty palmtop to manage your appointments you will have to totally disregard the Martian daylight and nightfall cycle. Would you really want to do that? Or would you rather "localize" your time? If so, what system/device/tool are you going to use to track your appointments in local Martian time? And to make things more interesting, one Martian year is about two Earth years..... << Casually dressed while standing in line for a commercial flight to Mars with 200LX on one hand and a copy of "MARS TODAY" on the other. >> Jimmy. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:53:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: Focus group Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In my opinion the following makes LX unique: 1. Wide variety of self-hosted development tools: C, C++, Perl, Fortran, asm, etc. 2. Completely feasible for self-hosted development: does not require desktop development environment. 3. Exceptionally well understand and documented hardware and software platform: DOS and IBM XT compatible hardware. 4. Long battery life. The following will make me switch in rough order of importance (and the reason): 1. DOS software compatibility and XT (or AT) hardware compatibility (So I don't have to learn another platform that I have taken 10 years to learn.) (Though a well documented platform can dramatically cut that down.) 2. > 10 hours battery life *AND* AA battery power (AA battery is important for those situations where a wall power source is not available.) 3. More MIPS. 4. Color display. 5. Greater than CGA resolution. That's it for now. Best Regards, Alfred Lee -----Original Message----- From: Fryday To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Monday, February 12, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Focus group >Guys, > >I'm going to a focus group on PDA's tomorrow night. Of course, I'm bringing my >trusted 200LX. Send me some lists (point form) of things that truly make the LX >unique (as opposed to the CE/Palm machines). I know most of it, but I want to >make sure I don't miss a chance to crush the competition :-) Also, perhaps a >quick point form list of what combination of features would be enough to let go >of your LX. > >Woohoo! > >Philippe > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:00:27 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Focus group Comments: To: fryday@california.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit good luck & knock 'em dead Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:20:14 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: HELP : Lotus 1-2-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I calculate 10 to the x power in 1-2-3? TIA. roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:36:00 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: HELP : Lotus 1-2-3 Comments: To: "R.S." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 10¬2 results in 100 @exp(x) calculates e to the x power Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: R.S. To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 08:20 AM Subject: HELP : Lotus 1-2-3 > How do I calculate 10 to the x power in 1-2-3? > TIA. > > roger > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:34:08 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: HELP : Lotus 1-2-3 Comments: To: "R.S." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit R.S. wrote: > How do I calculate 10 to the x power in 1-2-3? > TIA. A1 B1 10¬b1 3 A1 will show as 1000 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:25:11 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: HELP : Lotus 1-2-3 Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks a lot. Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:13:29 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: ICQ for DOS In-Reply-To: <004501c0958d$6a310a20$e501a8c0@roger> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I was wondering if anyone has tried LSICQ for DOS on the LX? http://ladsoft.tripod.com/inmenu.htm Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:16:27 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: DOS webring Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I thought this may be of interest. LOTS of goodies including internet utils etc http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=dosnet&list Maybe Super and Palmtop.net should be on this ring? Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:33:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > Some of you who carry a flashlight with the LX (usually a mini-maglight) > might be interested in one of these instead: > > http://theledlight.com/palights.html > > I bought a PAL Gold a year ago and have been pretty impressed with its Thanks for the tip, I ordered a white one and it arrived today. > Low power mode is > rated at 200 hours before battery replacement and it easily illuminates the > LX screen. My initial impression is I won't want to do much LX work with the PAL light. It is focused a bit more than I expected from an LED so I have to keep sweeping the light back and forth. > I always bring it on trips It will be easy to find in a dark hotel room. > Cheap, versatile and durable ... a good companion to the LX. The PAL Gold Cheap? I bought from the url above and the Pal Gold is $23 plus shipping brings it close to $30. I like toys and I like this little flashlight but that isn't quite 'cheap'. > I'm also keen on the little keychain LED lights such as the Photon II ( I keep a red one on my keychain and a green one in the car. Red is good for night vision but you can't read with it too well; red town names on maps tend to fade out. I've used the red one quite a bit and the battery is still good after a year. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:37:05 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: DOS PDF Reader In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010213221627.00a03560@powerup.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi I recall a few people looking for a PDF reader for the LX Try Name of Program: ACROBAT: Adobe's PDF DOS Reader Location/Filename: Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:47:41 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 11 Feb 2001 to 12 Feb 2001 (#2001-61) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:38:30 +0100 > From: Laust Brock-Nannestad > Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > > > "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > > > > > Please do not send out virus alerts. > > > > This one is not false...many news outlets are > > reporting the existence of this virus. I normally > > don't like to see e-mail notices of viruses but > > this is turning out not to be a hoax I subscribe to > > the philosohy that it is better to be safe than sorry. > > *sigh*. This is a mailing-list for the HPLX. What was posted was an alert > for a Windows (cannot infect the LX!), most likely Outlook-specific, Wrong - it can *attack* any W32 box, it only *spreads* via the MAPI interface. You don't need Outlook to execute VB Scripts on a Windows box. > virus. Genuine or not it doesn't belong here. I'm sure there are excellent Wrong - many members of the list receive it on Windows-based machines, and thus are vulnerable to receiving, and propagating, the bug. The LX doesn't exist, or operate, in a vacuum. If you've ever corresponded with another member off-list, you may be in their address book and thus a candidate for the virus. In addition, if you've been included in a corporate address book on an Exchange server, you're vulnerable to multiple messages from multiple users of the system. Just because the LX isn't susceptible to VB Script attacks doesn't mean that the LX won't get lumbered with e-mails. At the least this provides a warning to list members to set up server-side filtering, where possible, for the attack, sparing them from still more wasted bandwidth. > virus-alert mailing-lists that people can subscribe to (not a bad idea if > you use that pitiful Microsoft program) if they so desire. I think this > was what Robert was referring to, not the validity of the alert. You don't > see Linux or HP/UX or security alerts for other systems posted here, and You don't see the *attacks* on HP/UX or Linux, although you're starting to on Linux. You also don't see the number of HP/UX or Linux boxen on the desktop to make them attractive targets. Note though that Linux is gaining the disadvantages of popularity with worms targeted at it (Ramen Worm), exploiting a vulnerability in the *nix environment that's been known for at least 12 years (the Morris Worm). Microsoft products are attacked not because they're any more vulnerable than anyone else's; they're attacked because they're more common. Subscribe to any general security list and you'll see large numbers of notices for *any* OS out there. But the numbers are influenced also by the number of people who have that environment to pound on. You can't develop a good Red Hat-specific attack unless you have Red Hat to play with. If a virus or worm is likely to affect list members in any number, whether it is targeted at the LX or not, it's at least as legitimate a topic as performance characteristics of various cell phones. That Outlook is a legitimate factor on the list is apparent from the number of posts on, and the effort devoted to, synchronizing the LX phone book and calendar with Outlook. > nor should they be. > > Why people don't simply stop using Outlook is beyond me... a) corporate standards. b) power of the rules-based mail handling (I got 2 Anna Kournikova and 1 Snow White in the last 12 hours, and was able to trap them, as well as several spams. My mail, on arrival, is sorted into one of over 250 separate boxes so I can read the important stuff first) c) it's easy to use d) it's cheap. UNIX' Sendmail's inherent lack of security is a major factor in the ease with which spammers can operate. Why people don't simply stop using *it* is beyond me . . . > > > Cheers, > > Laust > Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 06:48:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > Low power mode is > rated at 200 hours before battery replacement and it easily illuminates the > LX screen. My initial impression is I won't want to do much LX work with the PAL light. It is focused a bit more than I expected from an LED so I have to keep sweeping the light back and forth. >> If LX work is what you mostly want to do, you might want to try reversing the lens to get a broader beam. << It will be easy to find in a dark hotel room. >> And during power outages (I live in California ). The "always on" dim light feature isn't just useful for locating it in the dark ... it's also a useful indicator of the remaining battery level. << > Cheap, versatile and durable ... a good companion to the LX. The PAL Gold Cheap? I bought from the url above and the Pal Gold is $23 plus shipping brings it close to $30. I like toys and I like this little flashlight but that isn't quite 'cheap'. >> True, that is relative to the size of your wallet. I'm normally pretty stingy, but $30 is cheap to me insofar as it's a durable, efficient and useful gadget, and I've blown a lot more on things less deserving of the cash. Consider that you may never have to replace the LED bulb (nor could you if you wanted to) and that you may get weeks of useful light out of discarded 9v batteries. << > I'm also keen on the little keychain LED lights such as the Photon II ( I keep a red one on my keychain and a green one in the car. Red is good for night vision but you can't read with it too well; red town names on maps tend to fade out. I've used the red one quite a bit and the battery is still good after a year. >> The early Photon lights were equipped with a CR2032 lithium battery, so in a pinch (if you had a small screwdriver), you could cannibalize the backup battery from the LX to extend the life of the light. I carried a white one as a spare and my wife and daughter used it to read on trips (when the PAL light was unavailable), but it's one of the newer and brighter ones that use 2 CR2016 lithiums. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:02:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Red Planet Comments: To: jimmytan@yeos.com.my MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jimmy Tan Thiam Hin wrote: > If you are a colonist on Mars, how will you track and manage your time? One > Martian day is equivalent to approximately 25 Earth hours. Finally a way to get a 25 hour day! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:23:48 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Re: YAHOO Email access with Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <<<<<>>>>>> I also have "perfect" demographics, having never recieved a Yahoo advertising email yet, through Yahoo Delivers(with a HP 548). If anyone would wish to morph themselves, I will be happy to supply the secret. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:34:08 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: O.T.: Windows Viruses and Virus Alerts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Apologies in advance for a OT long post, but I felt I needed to reply. On 02/13/01 Jon Barrett wrote: >...many members of the list receive it on >Windows-based machines, and thus are vulnerable >to receiving, and propagating, the bug. True, but the my point of my first email was that it is bad form to send email warning about real or imagined viruses. The major anti-virus companies recommend against it, not to increase their sales, but to avoid excessive email traffic at a time when the systems are likely to be in danger of overload anyway. >You don't need Outlook to execute VB Scripts >on a Windows box. As you said, there are ways of setting up your email program to filter and catch viruses and VBScript worms. One can also disable Windows Scripting Host (most people don't need it) or set up the File Type association in the Windows Explorer to have .vbs files opened with NotePad rather than WScript. Finally, we are all smart and aware people, so I would hope that by now we would not open attachments to unsolicited email, especially ones with .vbs extensions. >Microsoft products are attacked not because >they're any more vulnerable than anyone else's; >they're attacked because they're more common. Yes and no. There are more Windows viruses in part because there are more Windows computers and users. However, most knowledgeable people agree that Windows and Outlook are fundamentally more vulnerable because of "features" and bugs they include. In conclusion, I subscribe to this list to learn more about the HP palmtops. I also enjoy the interesting OT and Fluff threads (HP users seem to be a smart and well-read bunch), but I do not want to see them overwhelm the list. Bob Feldman ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:53:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Source for Rechargable Batteries for the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can anyone recommend a good mailorder/internet source for rechargable batteries for the LX, preferably Nickel Metal Hydride. In the United states too! I've bought the Radio Shack ones, but am not satisified with their performance. TIA, Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:52:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Gary Jacek Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gary Jacek Subject: Re: DSL and LX Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Shaw cable connection to a Win98 box. I have successfully shared this with my 200LX plus Accton 2216 card running both LXMTA and WWW/LX. I can email or post details if anyone wants to replicate this setup. DSL should be similar to implement. > > Theoretically, if you have an ethernet card and the proper ethernet = drivers > > running, you could plug into a home router that is plugged into a DSL = line > > and have internet access. You would have to configure a home DSL/inter= net > > router (whether that is a box you've purchased that contains a = hub/switch > > and DHCP server internally, or is a Linux/BSD/Win2K/98 box configured = to > > share an internet connection) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:13:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Re: YAHOO Email access with Post/LX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I also have "perfect" demographics, having never > recieved a Yahoo advertising email yet, through Yahoo > Delivers(with a HP 548). If anyone would wish to morph > themselves, I will be happy to supply the secret. Do share. Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:05:43 -0600 Reply-To: rsoltes@airmail.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Soltes Subject: Re: 95LX Link Software Comments: To: Samuel Finney MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Give me your address an it will appear on a floppy Samuel Finney wrote: > Does anybody know where I can find palmtop <--> PC connectivity software > for the HP 95LX? I have a homebuilt link cable but have been unable to > find any software that will let me use it. I would really appreciate it if > anyone could tell me where I might find the necessary software. Thanks. > > Sam Finney > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- Richard Soltes rsoltes@airmail.net The author of the soon to be best selling "CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE CHICKEN" There are two rules in life 1) Never tell everything you know ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:33:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Another 123 question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > With a macro, I want to Xtract a range from > a worksheet and save it to a file WITH A NAME > CONTAINED IN ONE OF THE CELLS. > > Manually, the route would be: > MENU, FILE, XTRACT, VALUES, > name of file to extraxt to, > RETURN, extract range, RETURN > > This corresponds to the macro: > > /fsv{?}~a1..n60~ > > (a1..n60 is the extract range). > > Whereas the extract range remains fixed and is, > therefore, put as such into the macro, > the name changes. > > Question: Can I substitute the question mark > after /fsv which pauses the macro to allow the > name to be input by hand, with something that > quotes the contents of a cell ? You can do that. Remember that macros can be broken up over several consecutive rows within a column. So put the filename on a line by itself in that column and in the next row, same column, put a tilde for the enter and whatever you need to deal with your state. For example, is this replacing a sheet or a new one? You'll have to have seperate code for each situation. Something like this: AC AB 10 {GOTO}AB12~{?} 11 {DOWN}/FS 12 the name will go here 13 ~ 14 here you need the keys to do the confirm dance 123 does before saving they'll depend on whether the sheet is being replaced or created The {DOWN} on line 11 isn't needed but {?} was trying to include /fs in the name and putting a {} macro in front of the keystrokes stopped it. I'm not sure what was going on. It's been a long time since I've done this and some of the quirks have been forgotten. There's probably a better way but that works Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:47:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Global Roaming (was: Compuserve on the 200lx) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The other problem that I had was difficulty in > downloading newsgroups, because most ISPs > will only let you connect to their news servers > if you connect from one of their POPs. (News > was not really supported by GRIC). However > for emails it was great. I decided to try a news service (I tried www.newsfeeds.com but there are plenty of others) in order to be able to download some OTR mp3 binaries. I have 2 isp's and AOL and all three were totally useless with binaries. Too many parts missing. And they weren't all that great for my regular newsgroups, really. Newsfeeds gives you access to one server for $9.95 a month. I've heard some are less. They support any newsreader and provide web access as well. Typical retention time is about a month even for binaries. Nearly everything is complete. And you can access them no matter who your isp is. Temporarilly I'm using their 19.95 a month access which gives me access to several binaries only servers, to an mp3 only server and to their 2 "goliath" servers. These are each terabyte servers with incredible retention. It's working great for me. When I have enough shows I'll go back to the 9.95 service. I won't use my isp's newserver anymore. I'm too spoiled. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:47:52 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard Naething Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard Naething Subject: TECH: Flash Cards and hp-95lx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I just purchased a couple of hp-95lx palmtops, one for myself and another for my dad, after getting a recommendation from my uncle who ownes one and loves it. I actually don't have them here yet... but though I would get a head start on using them. I have three 8MB pcmcia flash cards that I would like to use with the hp-95lxs, and from what I read on the palmtoppaper it seems like this is a possibility but would require the use of a driver before the palmtops would recognize the cards, as they can't normally see anything above 2mbs. Any advice on where I could find this driver, or could some one email a copy? Thanks a bunch! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:23:40 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Another TSR request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one may be harder to come up with: I would like a TSR, macro, or something that I could use with WordPerfect 5.1+. When I hold down the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys for a longer I would than normal period of time, I would like it to pop up a window along the bottom (or top, or middle) of the 200LX screen, above the F-key labels with the F-key assignments for WordPerfect. This would, hopefully, eliminate the need for a separate template to remember the WordPerfect functions, and then I would only have to remember the commands in WP for the un-shifted function keys. I am trying to figure out a way to do it with the WordPerfect macro language, but it's not going too well. Ideally, though, this program could be configurable for any program that uses the function keys (F1-F10, or F1-F12), for how long the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys are held down before the window pops up, and the screen location at which the window appears. Theoretically, this would/could/should have been done back in the 80's in WordPerfect 5.1's heyday, but I've never heard of any such thing. I would give a Megahertz 14.4 XJack PCMCIA fax/modem and a Xircom PCMCIA Ethernet network card to the brilliant soul who could create or find a program that would best fulfill this request. Thanks to all. Regards, Richard Smith -- Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:31:33 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Another TSR request In-Reply-To: <3A89A5DC.4B364640@freeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > I would like a TSR, macro, or something that I could use with > WordPerfect 5.1+. When I hold down the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys > for a longer I would than normal period of time, I would like it > to pop up a window along the bottom (or top, or middle) of the > 200LX screen, above the F-key labels with the F-key assignments > for WordPerfect. This would, hopefully, eliminate the need for a > separate template to remember the WordPerfect functions, and > then I would only have to remember the commands in WP for the > un-shifted function keys. I find the pull down menu {Alt-=} to be handy, and enough help when I can't remember a keyboard shortcut. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:26:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Source for Rechargable Batteries for the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Schneider asked about a source for rechargeables... http://www.palmtopPaper.com/Store.htm and click on 'batteries'. .ed.ÝPTP¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:43:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Game Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Last month there was a thread on a "Group Project". That got me thinking (or whatever) of what I could program for the 200LX. Got an idea for a game, and decided to try it out. Due to starting in the middle and working outwards, I decided to back out and program a simpler project. So, I started what everyone needs, a varient of Tetris. It's coming along slowly, and it will probably end up being a fairly complete copy of a slightly strange Tetris-like game. But to speed things up, and to refer back to the Group Project, I'll ask if anyone out there in the list has a fairly complete or authentic Tetris scoring algorithim available? As a bonus, as I need to hook the timer and keyboard, I'm finding all sorts of ways to lock up a DOS computer. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:44:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , zaaap@EARTHLINK.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marc - Subject: Re: ICQ for DOS Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Russell, > Hi all > > I was wondering if anyone has tried LSICQ for DOS on the LX? > > http://ladsoft.tripod.com/inmenu.htm > > Russell I have... some, but certainly not enough to be an expert. The problem I had initially IIRC, was that there was no dialer? I contacted the author of LSICQ regarding this. His suggestion was to use the MICQ program that I had already configured, and take the LSICQ.exe and remame to MICQ.exe. It worked... but I only played with it a short while. (Actually I forgot all about it!) Two improvements over MICQ that stick out are the ability to scroll back, and a window in the upper right hand corner of the screen that identified who was on at any given time. Time to start playing again... tnx for reminding me :O) Marcus zaaap@earthlink.net ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:32:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Compact flash cards In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm about to buy a Sandisk 160 Meg Compact Flash card in a couple of hours. I plan to use it with an PCMCIA Flash Card reader in the LX. Does anybody know if this work, or does not work with a single speed 200-LX ? I'm going with this solution because it seems much less expensive than a normal PCMCIA ATA Type II Flash memory card but is there any bad sides of this ? I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash card for $180... does anybody know if it's a good price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! Loic ____________________________ BN3 Hosted Customer Service Solution, basic service FREE. CRM enable your web site in 5 minutes! http://www.bn3.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:14:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > > > > > Please do not send out virus alerts. > > > > This one is not false...many news outlets are > > *sigh*. This is a mailing-list for the HPLX. What was posted was an alert > for a Windows (cannot infect the LX!), most likely Outlook-specific, All these posts are the best example why virus alerts shouldn't be posted here. It is never just ONE post; instead it starts a whole chain of comments (including this one). Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:14:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Focus group Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > Guys, > > I'm going to a focus group on PDA's tomorrow night. Of course, I'm bringing my > trusted 200LX. Send me some lists (point form) of things that truly make the LX > unique (as opposed to the CE/Palm machines). I know most of it, but I want to > make sure I don't miss a chance to crush the competition :-) Also, perhaps a > quick point form list of what combination of features would be enough to let go > of your LX. DOS 5 Software Carousel (multiple pcs in 1 LX) WWWLX, email & ngs Built in apps, particularly Appt an Phone Curtis Cameron games etc. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:45:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Another TSR request In-Reply-To: <3A89A5DC.4B364640@freeport.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I would like a TSR, macro, or something that I could use with > WordPerfect 5.1+. When I hold down the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys > for a longer I would than normal period of time, I would like it > to pop up a window along the bottom (or top, or middle) of the Does F3 F3 work in 5.1+, or do you actually want a window that stays on screen as you work? Or a popup that goes away when you then press another key? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:53:11 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I investigated sandisk CFs and believe that >128MB is the thicker "CF II PLUS" format. I ended up with a 128MB which works just fine in my Jornada 720 (the thicker cards do not fit there.) I'd just be sure the 160M is physically compatible. If this thickness issue is true (I'm not 100% certain) then even if it's not an issue for your currently proposed machine it could be for some other usage in the future. Anyway just something to consider. Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com >Hi, I'm about to buy a Sandisk 160 Meg Compact Flash card in a couple of >hours. I plan to use it with an PCMCIA Flash Card reader in the LX. Does >anybody know if this work, or does not work with a single speed 200-LX ? >I'm going with this solution because it seems much less expensive than a >normal PCMCIA ATA Type II Flash memory card but is there any bad sides of >this ? I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash card for $180... does >anybody know if it's a good price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! > >Loic > > >____________________________ >BN3 Hosted Customer Service Solution, basic service FREE. >CRM enable your web site in 5 minutes! http://www.bn3.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:12:39 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Focus group In-Reply-To: from "Russel Brooks" at Feb 13, 2001 11:14:44 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm going to a focus group on PDA's tomorrow night. Of course, I'm > bringing my trusted 200LX. Send me some lists (point form) of things > that truly make the LX I would be very interested in hearing about your experience, off list if you feel your explanation would be off topic. Sounds like an interesting opportunity... -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:56:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Help with Macros MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What I would like to do: - Have a pitstop.mac file that is a set of macros for my work requests databases (currently consists of "requests.gdb" and "actions.gdb"--could eventually also have "users.gdb" and "inventory.gdb"). This macro automates the action creation process and the find actions for this request process and any other automated thing I will do or add on at a later time--so I will probably use up all 10 macros for this file. - Have _insert name here.mac_ files that are for any other application/process/functions that I want to automate. - Have a main.mac file that automatically opens my pitstop.mac file, or any of my other application/process/fucntions macros when I need them. ***The problem: I have created a main.mac file and when I run a macro that opens up System Macros and tries to open up another macro document it doesn't work (understandably, if I am running one macro to open another, I can't close the file from which the first macro is running until it is completed). Here is the macro I tried: "{macros}{alt}foc:\_dat\pitstop.mac{enter}". Anyone know of a workaround that allows me to have more than 10 macros (either by switching automagically to a new macro file or by having more macro slots or by _insert solution here_) and is free? Anyone know of a workaround that is not free? Thanks, Sean ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 02:07:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > If LX work is what you mostly want to do, you might want to try reversing > the lens to get a broader beam. Good tip. > And during power outages (I live in California ). Me too, San Jose, no blackouts (yet). >> Cheap? I bought from the url above and the Pal Gold is $23 > > True, that is relative to the size of your wallet. Hopefully it'll prove so useful the price won't matter. I already have a bunch of half used smoke detector batteries to feed it. > The early Photon lights were equipped with a CR2032 lithium battery, so in > a pinch (if you had a small screwdriver), you could cannibalize the backup > battery from the LX to extend the life of the light. I think my LX data backup is more important than light but it's an interesting idea. > I carried a white one as a spare and my wife and daughter used it to read > on trips (when the PAL light was unavailable), but it's one of the newer > and brighter ones that use 2 CR2016 lithiums. I think mine uses 1 2032 and I already think it is BRIGHT. Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:34:22 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: AbandonWare revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3CBE24B5381D071C124531AE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3CBE24B5381D071C124531AE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're interested, please sign the AbandonWare Petition at: http://mivox.com/essays/text/petition.html Thanks, Richard Smith -- Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. --------------3CBE24B5381D071C124531AE Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="seronac.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Richard and Patti Smith Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="seronac.vcf" begin:vcard n:Smith;Richard and Patti x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://seronac.freeservers.com/ adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:seronac@freeport.com fn:Richard and Patti Smith end:vcard --------------3CBE24B5381D071C124531AE-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:29:00 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > > > "Feldman, Robert" wrote: > > > > > Please do not send out virus alerts. > > > *sigh*. This is a mailing-list for the HPLX. What was posted was an alert People trying to help. I reckon you can't win for losin'. Anyway, the notices to this list didn't consume much bandwidth. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:31:23 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: DSL and LX Mike Kopplin writes: > I use lxen2216 with an Accton card to connect over DSL with my > LX. The LXTCP applications and WWW/LX all work fine. There is another way to theoretically connect an HPLX to a DSL if you are connected with a WINDOWS box to the dsl. Forgive me if I get a bit long winded here but I think I have found something interesting... There is a shareware WINDOWS program called MochaPPP which is available from (IIIRC) www.mochasoft.com. This is a program which will let you connect a Palm Pilot or WinCE machine to the internet via its serial cable, using a desktop PC as a gateway. I figured that what was good enough for a Palm pilot or a Wince was good enough for me so I tried to connect it to my HPLX using LXTCP. No luck. After a bit of research and playing around, I found that I could connect using EPPPD as a packet driver, but could not contact my mail server. A bit more playing around and I found that the problem was in the way that Wattcp does DNS, and the way that Mochappp treated dns requests was not totally compatible. What was happenning was that LXTCP was sending a DNS request, and when MochaPPP couldnt find the host it would return a host number 1.1.1.152 as the host, and then the LXTCP APP would try to connect to that (nonexistent) host. I tweaked the DNS part of wattcp as the way it was resolving host names was not the best and finally recompiled all the LXTCP applications so that they worked. I now have a working set of LXTCP applications which will let me connect to MochaPPP and connect to the internet. I hvae tried it under the following connections: MochaPPP on my WinMe desktop at home which is connected to my ISP via dial up connection. MochaPPP on my WinNt desktop at work connected to our Work LAN. In both cases I could run LXDNS, LXFTP, and LXMTA( to download mail). And now for some questions and discussion points: 1. Has anyone on the list tried the combination of MochaPPP and WwwLx. It might be interesting to try. 2. Other TCP apps besides the ones I modified (thanks to Rod Whitby providing source code) still dont work because MochaPPP is incorrectly providing me with a IP address for non existent hosts. Can anyone think of a different direction to try. ( Maybe I should start looking at the pppd dialer package -the problem might be there.) 3. Any users on the list with other palmtops using MochaPPP. (It works with Psion's as well Owen!) 4. Anybody else on the list remotely interested in this subject or should I go on playing with it and let us get on with important subjects like French Kisses and SETI . -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:44:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Before I head off to eBay to look for a laptop, I thought someone here might have one that they might be looking to sell or trade or a combination of both. I need something that will 'comfortably' run Win 98 or ME. It has to have a card slot and built-in ports would be a bonus. As far as trading material, I have a nifty subnotebook that is a 200MHz, with 32MB, full size keyboard, external CD & floppy, IR, interal 56K modem, built-in ports (no docking station needed). It's currently running ME, but as you can probably guess it would be better suited for Win 95 or better yet, Linux. It's a really slick laptop, but it struggles to run ME and the software that I use to manage my eBay auctions and because I have no choice but to run this software I need something that can run it without causing me to reboot it every so often. Anyways, if anyone has anything they are looking to sell/trade or barter just drop me an email. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:01:29 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit that virus is for real! >Why people don't simply stop using Outlook is beyond me... 1. it came configured free with my PC (and Wanadoo) 2. my HPLX is too valuable/private to be potentially uploading information i don't want it to 3. i am too inexperienced/un-intelligent to configure 70 different settings in Netscape (tried it but failed) and as to... >Subject: Re: French bises to all i meant 2 left and 2 right alternatively starting from your left ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:04:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: FLUFF: Red Planet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >fellow earthling LX-ers Hi Jimmy - Hendrix "the night i was born Mars turned out fire-red" >If you are a colonist on Mars {snip} >Or would you rather "localize" your time? If so, what system/device/tool localise, off course (who wants to be woken at odd hours? - said by ER doctors on call) >are you going to use to track your appointments in local Martian time? it will take another 20 years till we start living there - who thinks the LX will still be around then? >Casually dressed while standing in line for a commercial flight to >Mars with 200LX on one hand and a copy of "MARS TODAY" on the other ok, who sold you to the idea? if Carl Sagan, write to me off-list Nathalie... my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:48:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Another TSR request Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU, theise@NETINS.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I find the pull down menu {Alt-=} to be handy, and enough help > when I can't remember a keyboard shortcut. I have WP set up to always show the menu, but sometimes the Alt and/or ÝAlt=¨ don't work on the palmtop. It seems to have something to do with the 200LX keyboard or something - I seem to remember something about this on the list in the past, but can't remember what the verdict was. Also, I find that a quick keystroke combo is much less cumbersome and fewer keystrokes than the menus. > Does F3 F3 work in 5.1+, or do you actually want a window that > stays on screen as you work? Or a popup that goes away when you > then press another key? F3, F3 does work in WP5.1+, however, I also find this cumbersome since I must press F3, F3, find what I want on the template (which is a little hard to read on the palmtop screen), and then press Enter and remember the keystroke combo and then do it. I would like a popup that goes away after I press any other key. I envision it this way: If I'm typing along, and want to turn on Block. (Since I can't recall the keystroke), I can press and hold Shift, and it shows the commands for Shift+F1 through Shift+F10, or I can press and hold Alt, and it shows the commands for Alt+F1 through Alt+F10 and like wise for Ctrl. (I would just have to remember the unshifted command keys.) The commands would appear in a small window on about the 22nd or 23rd line of the display; high enough to still see the status line. Anyway, going back to the scenario: When I press and hold Alt, I would see that Block is ÝAlt-F4¨, so then I can press ÝAlt-F4¨ and away she goes. Any takers? Any help? Any ideas? Thanks and regards, Richard Smith -- Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:51:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Abandonware Revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OOPS! Sorry about the vCard! Forgot again, no flames, please! -- Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:53:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > that virus is for real! > > >Why people don't simply stop using Outlook is beyond me... Note: I'm using netscape right now and there are similar problems with netscape...... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 00:57:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > If you're interested, please sign the AbandonWare Petition at: > > http://mivox.com/essays/text/petition.html I would add to the petition: some of us are using older stuff like the hp200lx because the new stuff is junk. Newer is not always better. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:44:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Focus group Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, turns out it was about Franklin Covey bundles and products specifically centered around Palm. And I was the lone LX user in a room full or palm users -- kind of makes me wonder why they kept me around :-) Perhaps for the alternate opinions. They showed us Franklin system binders and other similar items, as well a various Palm/Franklin-centric bundles of binder, cradle and software. Pretty cool stuff :-) Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Lott" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Focus group > > I'm going to a focus group on PDA's tomorrow night. Of course, I'm > > bringing my trusted 200LX. Send me some lists (point form) of things > > that truly make the LX > > I would be very interested in hearing about your experience, off list > if you feel your explanation would be off topic. Sounds like an > interesting opportunity... > > -Chris Lott > > -- > > ************************************************************************ > R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com > Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. > 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 > Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 > ************************************************************************ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:10:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Keefe Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Keefe Subject: Re: Help with Macros MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean McKay asked about solutions to swapping macro files to have access to more than ten macros. There are several articles in The HP Palmtop Paper archives (www.palmtoppaper.com) that will tell you how to do this e.g., http://www.palmtopPaper.com/ptphtml/45/45c00028.htm I wrote a program for the 95LX called Multi Macro Manager that lets you swap any number of sets of macros at the touch of a couple of keys. It works on the x00LX but I no longer have any documentation file for the program. (Useless without that.) .ed. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:19:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , rudolf kuehnlein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: rudolf kuehnlein Subject: Re: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi jeff, i am from germany, but anyway i want to give you my advice. try www.we-sell-notebooks.com i bought there a great toshiba notebook that works with nt4.0 and has only a 166mhz pentium mmx processor. just try the homepage. rudolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop > Before I head off to eBay to look for a laptop, I thought someone here > might have one that they might be looking to sell or trade or a > combination of both. I need something that will 'comfortably' run Win 98 > or ME. It has to have a card slot and built-in ports would be a bonus. As > far as trading material, I have a nifty subnotebook that is a 200MHz, with > 32MB, full size keyboard, external CD & floppy, IR, interal 56K modem, > built-in ports (no docking station needed). It's currently running ME, but > as you can probably guess it would be better suited for Win 95 or better > yet, Linux. It's a really slick laptop, but it struggles to run ME and the > software that I use to manage my eBay auctions and because I have no > choice but to run this software I need something that can run it without > causing me to reboot it every so often. Anyways, if anyone has anything > they are looking to sell/trade or barter just drop me an email. > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:36:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! In-Reply-To: <3A8A1D41.8CB470C7@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > > that virus is for real! > > > > >Why people don't simply stop using Outlook is beyond me... > > Note: I'm using netscape right now and there are similar problems > with netscape...... Pegasus Mail, then? my parents use that and don't have any problems with it, despite receiving several different Windows vira over the years... Last time I checked, it was both free and fully featured. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:48:42 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: DSL and LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Becher wrote: > There is another way to theoretically connect an HPLX to a DSL if you = are > connected with a WINDOWS box to the dsl. Forgive me if I get a bit long = winded > here but I think I have found something interesting... > > There is a shareware WINDOWS program called MochaPPP which is available = from > (IIIRC) www.mochasoft.com. This is a program which will let you connect > a Palm Pilot or WinCE machine to the internet via its serial cable, = using a > desktop PC as a gateway. ... > > 1. Has anyone on the list tried the combination of MochaPPP and WwwLx. = It > might be interesting to try. I tried it and it worked right out of the box, HV, ftp ,Telnet etc. I registered it right away, I am so pleased with MochaPPP. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:11:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: david feldman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit david feldman wrote: > I investigated sandisk CFs and believe that >128MB is the thicker "CF II > PLUS" format. I ended up with a 128MB which works just fine in my Jornada > 720 (the thicker cards do not fit there.) I'd just be sure the 160M is > physically compatible. If this thickness issue is true (I'm not 100% > certain) then even if it's not an issue for your currently proposed machine > it could be for some other usage in the future. Anyway just something to > consider. Just a comment: CF Type II DO FIT in the Palmtop - physically. You need the PCMCIA adapter and make sure the power requirements and all that fits in addition. I use a 1GB IBM Microdrive which is CF Type II and is THICKER than the CF Type I. It fits. (It also works, that's a separate story.). Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com > > Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com > > >Hi, I'm about to buy a Sandisk 160 Meg Compact Flash card in a couple of > >hours. I plan to use it with an PCMCIA Flash Card reader in the LX. Does > >anybody know if this work, or does not work with a single speed 200-LX ? > >I'm going with this solution because it seems much less expensive than a > >normal PCMCIA ATA Type II Flash memory card but is there any bad sides of > >this ? I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash card for $180... does > >anybody know if it's a good price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! > > > >Loic > > > > > >____________________________ > >BN3 Hosted Customer Service Solution, basic service FREE. > >CRM enable your web site in 5 minutes! http://www.bn3.com > > > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 03:11:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1361504554__" --__next_part__1361504554__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > If you're interested, please sign the AbandonWare Petition at: > > http://mivox.com/essays/text/petition.html Richard, I think this petition is ill-conceived and badly written. If anyone in the software industry pays attention to it - then you have just found a moron. Here is a "proposal" - which I can summarize as "gimme, gimme". It is blind to the needs of the vendors, it is rather unintelligent about what they do, and how they treat software assets (Barry, don't start up with your theory, please :)...). Lastly, it seems to have been written without much attention to the words or trying to craft something intelligent and articulate. I HIGHLY recommend AGAINST signing this petition. This is another manifestation of the unthinking. If someone is really interested in doing the proper job, start by talking to software vendors, and get educated about what software means to vendors. Look and see what sort of needs they have as well. then see if the needs of the users can somehow be met by some give and take, not just a "gimme, gimme" attitude. It is my hope that this post will not restart the dumb thread yet again. --__next_part__1361504554__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > --__next_part__1361504554__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:33:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Wallace-Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Wallace-Jones Subject: Re: DSL and LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:57:59 +0000 (GMT) I have tried something similar with a program called DSLink (www.makesureservices.co.uk/software/dslink) which was written for use with the Psion EPOC machines. It works fine with a Psion (I have a 5MX) but the HP and WWW/LX combo fail on LCP negotiation (or something like that - it was a while ago and I can't remember). I think I also downloaded MochaPPP at around the same time but didn't get anywhere with it. I'll have another go with DSLink later and report back with the exact problem and also have a go with WWW/LX and MochaPPP. BTW - While we are on the subject - here are another few reasonably cool applications which I use to connect to the web from my HP200LX via my desktop. Soft Ir Modem - is a small free application which runs under Win95/98/Me and turns your big desktop machine with IR port into an IR Modem. It works great with WWW/LX - great fun seeing your HPx00LX get recognised by the Win95 IR monitor. Recently updated for Win98/Me support - I have been using an older Win95 version. Available from http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA005810/irda/sfirmdme.htm PassThru32 - this is a small shareware application which allows your HP on one port (using the connectivity cable) to talk directly to a modem on another port of you desktop computer. It runs under Win95/98/NT and was once again written to work with the Psion EPOC machines. It effectively turns your big ol' desktop into a very expensive modem. It does however also have the added bonus that it allows the palmtop to print directly to a printer attached to your desktop (v. cool) or if you happen to be printing to a network printer, you can print directly to that (even cooler!). If you are still using DOS on your desktop PC (and why not) - there are DOS versions of the software also! Now you can find this gem at http://kevin.millican.net/Home/PassThru.htm - enjoy! Now in an ideal world, the functionality of PassThru, Soft Ir Modem ad DsLink would be combined with the X-Finder server and I would be able to just run one application when I connect my HP to the desktop and be bale to accomplish all my tasks. See my other email for one other little gem I have found. Cheers Mark BTW - David - do you think you could upload to a site the modified LXDNS/FTP/MTA so that we could all benefit from your hard work? 06h26m36s ago ... On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 05:31:23 +0200, David Becher wrote: > There is a shareware WINDOWS program called MochaPPP which is available from > (IIIRC) www.mochasoft.com. This is a program which will let you connect > a Palm Pilot or WinCE machine to the internet via its serial cable, using a > desktop PC as a gateway. > > I figured that what was good enough for a Palm pilot or a Wince was good enough > for me so I tried to connect it to my HPLX using LXTCP. No luck. > > After a bit of research and playing around, I found that I could connect using > EPPPD as a packet driver, but could not contact my mail server. A bit more > playing around and I found that the problem was in the way that Wattcp does > DNS, and the way that Mochappp treated dns requests was not totally compatible. > > What was happenning was that LXTCP was sending a DNS request, and when MochaPPP > couldnt find the host it would return a host number 1.1.1.152 as the host, and > then the LXTCP APP would try to connect to that (nonexistent) host. I tweaked > the DNS part of wattcp as the way it was resolving host names was not the > best and finally recompiled all the LXTCP applications so that they worked. > > I now have a working set of LXTCP applications which will let me connect to > MochaPPP and connect to the internet. I hvae tried it under the following > connections: > > MochaPPP on my WinMe desktop at home which is connected to my ISP via dial up > connection. > > MochaPPP on my WinNt desktop at work connected to our Work LAN. > > In both cases I could run LXDNS, LXFTP, and LXMTA( to download mail). > > And now for some questions and discussion points: > > 1. Has anyone on the list tried the combination of MochaPPP and WwwLx. It > might be interesting to try. > > 2. Other TCP apps besides the ones I modified (thanks to Rod Whitby providing > source code) still dont work because MochaPPP is incorrectly providing me > with a IP address for non existent hosts. Can anyone think of a different > direction to try. ( Maybe I should start looking at the pppd dialer > package -the problem might be there.) > > 3. Any users on the list with other palmtops using MochaPPP. (It works with > Psion's as well Owen!) > > 4. Anybody else on the list remotely interested in this subject or should I > go on playing with it and let us get on with important subjects like French > Kisses and SETI . > > -- > ** David Becher > ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il > ** www.cimatron.co.il > /------------------------------\ | Mark Wallace-Jones | | Flat 1, | | 56 Talbot Street, | | Dublin 1, | | IRELAND | | | | Tel: +353 1 8559982 | | Mob: +353 87 6172679 | \------------------------------/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:33:44 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mark Wallace-Jones Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mark Wallace-Jones Subject: Web News for HP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For the last year, I have been living a double life - I have owned both a Psion 5MX and a HP200LX. They both have their strengths and I am not going to enter into a debate on which one is better here. I thought I would bring to the lists attention a service for the Psion which I have also found works quite nicely with the HP (albeit with a few extra steps). It is an automated e-new service similar to Avantgo for the Palm. In this case it is called Mobipocket (www.mobipocket.com). For the Psion, you download two pieces of software - one is a small Win9X application which runs in the System Tray. Each time you connect to the web, this will check to see if there are any new news stories for the channels which you indicate you are interested in (the Channels are good too - CNet, Business Week, Bloomberg, Red Herring to name a few) and downloads them to your PC. When you synchronise the Psion with the Desktop, the news is transferred to the Psion and the second application, a reader on the Psion is used to read the mail. So you are wondering - how the hell will this work with the HP. Well I was checking out the files which are downloaded from the web and they looked to me like pure HTML (prior to transfer to the Psion they are converted to MobiPocket Reader .prc format). So I tried copying the files accross manually to the HP and opened them with HV. Sure enough, they worked. So what I have done is create an icon on my X-Finder desktop which sweeps the various news HTML files on to the HP whenever I want. I could automate this further but haven't. The software is free to download and doesn't appear to check if you have a Psion (unlike the very irritating Avantgo software). It works like a charm. If you need any help, give me a shout. Cheers Mark ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:10:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > My initial impression is I won't want to do much LX work with > the PAL light. It is focused a bit more than I expected from an > LED so I have to keep sweeping the light back and forth. I also got one of the PAL Gold lights after they were mentioned here. I = went with the white one as well, although th light is a bit more blueish than = I was expecting. I have been reading in bed with it. I lie on my back with my head tipped = up on a pillow so my chin is on my chest. I set the PAL light on one shoulder = over the collar bone and aim it at the palmtop held over my lower chest. This = gives enough distance for the light to spread and cover the screen. The light bothers my wife a lot less the the small desk lamp I had been using. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:20:37 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200102141111.DAA00303@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just read the "proposal," and what it comes down to is this: "None of us are interested in being lawbreakers, so here is our proposal:" Make all older software available to everyone at no cost. Hey, Apple does this with their older copies of the OS, so you should make your older software free too. I agree with Avi this is a simple-minded appeal ignorant of the Software Industry. Most of the folks that signed this petition seemed to be indicating that all this would do was alter the legal status of their current activities (make it free so I won't be a pirate). "I've been stealing your software for years, why don't you give up and just make it free?" Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of A Meshar Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:11 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > If you're interested, please sign the AbandonWare Petition at: > > http://mivox.com/essays/text/petition.html Richard, I think this petition is ill-conceived and badly written. If anyone in the software industry pays attention to it - then you have just found a moron. Here is a "proposal" - which I can summarize as "gimme, gimme". It is blind to the needs of the vendors, it is rather unintelligent about what they do, and how they treat software assets (Barry, don't start up with your theory, please :)...). Lastly, it seems to have been written without much attention to the words or trying to craft something intelligent and articulate. I HIGHLY recommend AGAINST signing this petition. This is another manifestation of the unthinking. If someone is really interested in doing the proper job, start by talking to software vendors, and get educated about what software means to vendors. Look and see what sort of needs they have as well. then see if the needs of the users can somehow be met by some give and take, not just a "gimme, gimme" attitude. It is my hope that this post will not restart the dumb thread yet again. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:20:42 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop Comments: To: rudolf kuehnlein In-Reply-To: <004901c0965e$de195bf0$b0f206d5@rudolf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be www.wesellnotebooks.com - no hyphens. Nice offerings, thanks for the pointer... Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of rudolf kuehnlein Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:19 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop hi jeff, i am from germany, but anyway i want to give you my advice. try www.we-sell-notebooks.com i bought there a great toshiba notebook that works with nt4.0 and has only a 166mhz pentium mmx processor. just try the homepage. rudolf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:44 AM Subject: WTB/WTT Looking For Laptop > Before I head off to eBay to look for a laptop, I thought someone here > might have one that they might be looking to sell or trade or a > combination of both. I need something that will 'comfortably' run Win 98 > or ME. It has to have a card slot and built-in ports would be a bonus. As > far as trading material, I have a nifty subnotebook that is a 200MHz, with > 32MB, full size keyboard, external CD & floppy, IR, interal 56K modem, > built-in ports (no docking station needed). It's currently running ME, but > as you can probably guess it would be better suited for Win 95 or better > yet, Linux. It's a really slick laptop, but it struggles to run ME and the > software that I use to manage my eBay auctions and because I have no > choice but to run this software I need something that can run it without > causing me to reboot it every so often. Anyways, if anyone has anything > they are looking to sell/trade or barter just drop me an email. > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:41:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Christopher Blackmon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Christopher Blackmon Organization: Nortel Networks Subject: Fluff: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Or if you prefer, Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. The original post said "If you're interested..." so if you are... then go read it. We've also heard from a voice in the Software Industry on why, in their opinion, this is a bad idea. Can we stop with the me too's? Sheesh. Ya'll have a nice day, Christopher. Ken Hansen wrote: > I just read the "proposal," and what it comes down to is this: > > "None of us are interested in being lawbreakers, > so here is our proposal:" Make all older software > available to everyone at no cost. Hey, Apple does > this with their older copies of the OS, so you > should make your older software free too. > > I agree with Avi this is a simple-minded appeal ignorant of the > Software Industry. Most of the folks that signed this petition > seemed to be indicating that all this would do was alter the > legal status of their current activities (make it free so I > won't be a pirate). "I've been stealing your software for years, > why don't you give up and just make it free?" > > Ken > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:48:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Another TSR request Comments: To: Richard and Patti Smith MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:23:40 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > > I would like a TSR, macro, or something that I could use with > WordPerfect 5.1+. When I hold down the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys > for a longer I would than normal period of time, I would like it > to pop up a window along the bottom (or top, or middle) of the > 200LX screen, above the F-key labels with the F-key assignments > for WordPerfect. If you do not find a Wordperfect-specific TSR, you may want to consider Sidekick, the original TSR program. One of Sidekick's many functions is a simple editor. You would have to first create a plain text file with the information you want, and then you could open this file with Sidekick. It does not pop up based on the time that keys are held down, but on a particular key sequence. I believe it was both Shift keys, but it has been a while. Another option would be to use Infoselect in TSR mode and create a "stack" with the Wordperfect commends. However either of these solutions may need more memory than you have available when running WP. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:28:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > The early Photon lights were equipped with a CR2032 lithium battery, so in > a pinch (if you had a small screwdriver), you could cannibalize the backup > battery from the LX to extend the life of the light. I think my LX data backup is more important than light but it's an interesting idea. >> I run a backup batch file nightly that backs up my 3mb of C drive data (internal) data/apps to my 48mb flash card. I can also do this "on demand" by running the batch file normally. If I needed the 2032, I'd run the backup before popping out the battery. The data's safe in the flash card already, but in any event, my backup is never more than a day old ... I can afford to lose the 2032 ... in a pinch. << > I carried a white one as a spare and my wife and daughter used it to read > on trips (when the PAL light was unavailable), but it's one of the newer > and brighter ones that use 2 CR2016 lithiums. I think mine uses 1 2032 and I already think it is BRIGHT. >> Some enthusiasts have measured the light output from the various Photon LEDs and found the green to be the brightest (when are are powered by the same battery type). In fact, one person mentioned (unsubstantiated) that a 2-CR2016 powered green Photon II will easily illuminate the ceiling of a darkened auditorium. With fresh batteries, you can almost carry it in the dark to blind attackers . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:40:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Pavel Rybka Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Pavel Rybka Subject: Re: HP 95lx questions Comments: To: pogo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had these warnings too. By my opinion it is caused by current peak when=20 palmtop is switched on when batteries are not so good. Replace them if you= =20 care about it. (I had consumed their energy at all.) Don=B4t forget check button cell. Life expectancy? I am prying too. It was made when H&P were alive. I=20 suppose next 5 years if you use it and 50 if you don't ;-). At 02:48 01-02-06, you wrote: >The scale says there is a 1/4 battery life left. Should I get a low=20 >battery warniing? >How many years can one expect a 95lx to function? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:05:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! Comments: To: Laust Brock-Nannestad MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > Pegasus Mail, then? my parents use that and don't have any problems with > it, despite receiving several different Windows vira over the years... Netscape communicator 4.7. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:17:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Richard, I think this petition is ill-conceived and badly > written. If anyone in the software industry pays attention to > it - then you have just found a moron. > Judging from how "buggy" current software is the software industry has a lot of morons in it. > > Here is a "proposal" - which I can summarize as "gimme, > gimme". It is blind to the needs of the vendors, it is rather > unintelligent about what they do, and how they treat software > assets (Barry, don't start up with your theory, please :)...). I would suggest redrafting the petition to allow the software industry to "sell" the old software at a reduced rate rather than give it away for free (which they probably won't do). I would also add to the petition that some of us are still using older platforms like the 200lx because the new stuff is junk and doesn't meet our needs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:21:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Web News for HP Comments: To: Mark Wallace-Jones MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Wallace-Jones wrote: > So I tried copying the files > accross manually to the HP and opened them with HV. Sure enough, they > worked. What is HV? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:36:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I also got one of the PAL Gold lights after they were mentioned here. I went > with the white one as well, although th light is a bit more blueish than I was > expecting. As I understand it, there is no true white LED and the flashlight manufacturers circumvent that by using a bluish-white LED with a coating that filters out some of the blue light. Hence, this is why the white LEDs aren't usually the brightest. > I have been reading in bed with it. I lie on my back with my head tipped up on > a pillow so my chin is on my chest. I set the PAL light on one shoulder over > the collar bone and aim it at the palmtop held over my lower chest. This gives > enough distance for the light to spread and cover the screen. The light > bothers my wife a lot less the the small desk lamp I had been using. Try reversing the lens as I mentioned in the previous post. The front end of the rubberized cover slips off, exposing the LED and circuit board (after first removing the gold metal retainer band). From there, the front end holds a reflector and the lens in place using simple friction and grooves, and the lens can be popped out and reversed to increase the light spread by about 10-20 degrees(?). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:13:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! In-Reply-To: <3A8A9EBD.24C7B115@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > > > Pegasus Mail, then? my parents use that and don't have any problems with > > it, despite receiving several different Windows vira over the years... > > Netscape communicator 4.7. What about it? I was suggesting Pegasus Mail as a good mail reader that doesn't seem to contain the same security flaws as Outlook, or Netscape Mail, even. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:18:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Lotus 1-2-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How do I calculate 10 to the x power in 1-2-3? To take the contents of A1 to the tenth power use A1¬10 Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:31:23 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Another TSR request Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Interesting ideas, Vic, thanks. I have SideKick, but I have also had some trouble with it's operation on the palmtop, but it's worth a try. (Not the slickest or most elegant solution, but worth a try!) Thanks, again. BTW: If I was a better programmer, I'd write this TSR myself, but I ain't! ;-) - Richard Victor Roberts wrote: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:23:40 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > > > > I would like a TSR, macro, or something that I could use with > > WordPerfect 5.1+. When I hold down the Ctrl, Alt, or Shift keys > > for a longer I would than normal period of time, I would like it > > to pop up a window along the bottom (or top, or middle) of the > > 200LX screen, above the F-key labels with the F-key assignments > > for WordPerfect. > > If you do not find a Wordperfect-specific TSR, you may want to > consider Sidekick, the original TSR program. One of Sidekick's > many functions is a simple editor. You would have to first > create a plain text file with the information you want, and then > you could open this file with Sidekick. It does not pop up > based on the time that keys are held down, but on a particular > key sequence. I believe it was both Shift keys, but it has been > a while. > > Another option would be to use Infoselect in TSR mode and > create a "stack" with the Wordperfect commends. However either > of these solutions may need more memory than you have available > when running WP. > > Vic Roberts > -- Richard & Patti Smith Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:29:06 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Source for Rechargable Batteries for the LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can anyone recommend a good mailorder/internet > source for rechargable batteries for the LX, > preferably Nickel Metal Hydride. In the United > states too! http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ I've bought a number of their NexCel AA and AAA batteries and they've been great. They were rated at 1550 mAh when I got mine but I see they've improved them to 1600 mAh. Thomas has good prices and good service. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:36:48 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compact Flash Cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm about to buy a Sandisk 160 Meg Compact Flash card in a couple of hours. I plan to use it with an PCMCIA Flash Card reader in the LX. Does anybody know if this work, or does not work with a single speed 200-LX ? I'm going with this solution because it seems much less expensive than a normal PCMCIA ATA Type II Flash memory card but is there any bad sides of this ? I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash card for $180... does anybody know if it's a good price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I haven't tried the 160 meg but I use 40 meg Sandisk compact flash cards with the adapter in my 200lx all the time. Works great. I won't buy any more type II ATA cards. That looks like a great price. A month ago the 128 meg was around $300. I know flash memory prices have been dropping but I didn't realize they'd come down that much. I may look into one myself. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:58:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compact flash cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash > card for $180... does anybody know if it's a good > price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! That's a great price. Are they new or used? That's considerably less than half the best price I can find on the web. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:06:35 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Corso, Tony" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Corso, Tony" Subject: 123 question - 123 equivalent o fExcel's Match function MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C096A8.7E9526CC" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C096A8.7E9526CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want to know how far down a list a vlookup had to go to find a matching result i.e. if I had a spread sheet. A |B |C | ------------------- 1|this word1 2|is word2 3|a word3 4|list word4 5|of word5 6|words word6 7| 8| 9| vlookup("list",a1:b6,1) would return the value "word4" . . . I want something slightly different, an @function that would return either the value of 4 Ýfor fourth down in the list¨, or would return the cell address "b4", Ýwhich I could then parse myself to get the value of 4¨ ------_=_NextPart_001_01C096A8.7E9526CC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 123 question - 123 equivalent o fExcel's Match function

I want to know how far down a list a vlookup had to = go to find a matching result i.e. if I had a spread sheet.
 

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I want something slightly different,  an = @function that would return either the value of 4 Ýfor fourth down in = the list¨, or would return the cell address "b4", Ýwhich I = could then parse myself to get the value of 4¨

------_=_NextPart_001_01C096A8.7E9526CC-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:08:00 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Source for Rechargable Batteries for the LX Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002701c096a3$40aeb140$63fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Barry wrote: > http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ > > I've bought a number of their NexCel AA and AAA batteries and > they've been great. They were rated at 1550 mAh when I got mine > but I see they've improved them to 1600 mAh. > > Thomas has good prices and good service. I would have to agree. I got a set of four AAs last fall and they've been great. I average a bit over 20 hours battery runtime according to Battlog. I should also mention I got a set of 1500 mAh Radio Shack AAs just a couple weeks after the NexCells, and have seen them perform pretty much the same. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:23:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Where is a free telnet? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Some months ago I searched on the net for a (free) 32-bit telnet- client, but couldn't found it. To day I'm 'upgrading' my internet- system from 16 to 32 bit. Using Opera - I like the speed! - I found that mail-sending buggy; so the wish for a telnet- client (for testing e-mail-behavior) arised once more. Has anybody a hot tip? (It's for my PC, not for the lx200.) K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:29:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Having just run some tests, I think the success or failure of attempts at running the Connectivity Pack under various versions of Windows depends less on Windows than it does on the hardware. I have successfully run it from within Windows 95, 98, 2000, and Whistler Personal on an Omnibook 800 and on a Dell Latitude CPiR running Whistler Pro, although the Dell won't let me run Filer and denies having COM3:. I remember running it on an OB800 under NT4, and others here have reported it as well. It won't run (unable to load the TSR) on the Omnibook 900 with a clean load of W2KP, or on a Gateway 4200 under NT 4 or Whistler Pro. So, the Connectivity Pack *will* run under all current versions of Windows, from within Windows. There is (are) some mysterious other factor(s) which may interfere with it in some cases. For the Dell, Gateway, and OB900, I was running, untweaked, the copy I had originally installed on my OB600 under W3.1 (which machine was upgraded to W95). I don't have my OB900 NT4 drive here, so can't try that now. You won't get a graphic DOS application running in a window. DOS CGA graphics programs usually rely on direct video memory writes, which mandate that the program takes complete control of the video card. This was done for speed. Even the BIOS and DOS interrupts are likely to (at a lower level) do this. It would be theoretically possible to write a wrapper to trap this, but would be more trouble than it's worth. Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:42:16 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200102141111.DAA32763@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was an earlier thread about microdrives and I thought it concluded that the microdrives drew too much current for the HP200 to support its operation. Its interesting that you were able to make it work. I'm very intrigued to read your "separate story". TIA Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A Meshar Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 00:11 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Compact flash cards david feldman wrote: > I investigated sandisk CFs and believe that >128MB is the thicker "CF II > PLUS" format. I ended up with a 128MB which works just fine in my Jornada > 720 (the thicker cards do not fit there.) I'd just be sure the 160M is > physically compatible. If this thickness issue is true (I'm not 100% > certain) then even if it's not an issue for your currently proposed machine > it could be for some other usage in the future. Anyway just something to > consider. Just a comment: CF Type II DO FIT in the Palmtop - physically. You need the PCMCIA adapter and make sure the power requirements and all that fits in addition. I use a 1GB IBM Microdrive which is CF Type II and is THICKER than the CF Type I. It fits. (It also works, that's a separate story.). ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:56:02 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Red Planet Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Jimmy Tan Thiam Hin wrote: > > > If you are a colonist on Mars, how will you track and manage your time? One > > Martian day is equivalent to approximately 25 Earth hours. > > Finally a way to get a 25 hour day! But remember on Mars, you will always be in the RED! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:33:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed So sorry! I didn't make a very clear posting - the CFII format (thicker) would not fit in the "CF-only" slot of the Jornada 720 (again I recognize the original topic was the HP 200!), however, I have used the microdrive 1G quite successfully with a PCMCIA adapter in the regular PCMCIA slot of the (J720) machine. I just didn't want to be limited to using only the PCMCIA slot for the compact flash application, so I optied for constraining to the thinner form factor. Again so sorry the muddled message, Dave >There was an earlier thread about microdrives and I thought it concluded >that the microdrives drew too much current for the HP200 to support its >operation. Its interesting that you were able to make it work. I'm very >intrigued to read your "separate story". >TIA >Tony. > >-----Original Message----- >From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of A >Meshar >Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2001 00:11 >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU >Subject: Re: Compact flash cards > > > david feldman wrote: > > I investigated sandisk CFs and believe that >128MB is the thicker "CF II > > PLUS" format. I ended up with a 128MB which works just fine in my >Jornada > > 720 (the thicker cards do not fit there.) I'd just be sure the 160M is > > physically compatible. If this thickness issue is true (I'm not 100% > > certain) then even if it's not an issue for your currently proposed >machine > > it could be for some other usage in the future. Anyway just something to > > consider. > >Just a comment: CF Type II DO FIT in the Palmtop - physically. >You need the PCMCIA adapter and make sure the power >requirements and all that fits in addition. > >I use a 1GB IBM Microdrive which is CF Type II and is THICKER >than the CF Type I. It fits. (It also works, that's a separate >story.). > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:50:40 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive In-Reply-To: from "Tony Kan" at Feb 15, 2001 09:42:16 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There was an earlier thread about microdrives and I thought it concluded > that the microdrives drew too much current for the HP200 to support its > operation. Its interesting that you were able to make it work. I'm very > intrigued to read your "separate story". This would be the case when using the drive in the HP200, however don't forget that when using DoubleSlot device, your PCMCIA or CF w/adaptors can draw power from an external power supply. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:15:57 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve Carder wrote: > I have been reading in bed with it. I lie on my back with my head tipped up on > a pillow so my chin is on my chest. I set the PAL light on one shoulder over > the collar bone and aim it at the palmtop held over my lower chest. This gives > enough distance for the light to spread and cover the screen. The light > bothers my wife a lot less the the small desk lamp I had been using. I tried the suggestion of reversing the lens and that unfocuses the light to make it easier to read a book whose page is larger than the LX. Removing the Lens probably has a similar effect. Neat flashlight! Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:00:50 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: Fluff RE: Security alert - Anna Kournikova attach! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 14 Feb 2001, at 17:13, Laust Brock-Nannestad wrote: > What about it? I was suggesting Pegasus Mail as a good mail reader > that doesn't seem to contain the same security flaws as Outlook, or > Netscape Mail, even. I use it since years. The security problems left in Pegasus Mail are general Windows problems and you can overcome them if you switch on your brain a little. Attachments can be opened by any viewer like notepad, there is an extension to virus - check each attachment before view or save, the internal html viewer is immune against java scripts and so on. It is still possible to activate a virus if you double click on each attachment you receive and set your mailer to execute the file no matter what it costs. But it will not happen without the users carelessness. Werner -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:04:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: HPLX now switching shortwave receiver on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I received the optocoupler I needed from Martin Bergvill yesterday and I = now have the HPLX switching the shortwave receiver on in the morning when = it starts the weatherfax software. :o) Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:04:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: DSL and LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi David Becher wrote (>): > 3. Any users on the list with other palmtops using > MochaPPP. (It works with Psion's as well Owen!) I'm aware of it, but have never tried it. In my present setup, it is = actually easier for me to connect the MC218 to the net than my Toshiba, so = I don't really have any need for it. I have tried a similar program called = DSLlink (IIRC), but people who have used both say MochaPPP is easier to set = up and more stable. I can't remember if DSLlink is EPOC (Psion) specific or = will work with several different OS's like MochaPPP. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:09:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: HPLX now switching shortwave receiver on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:04:08 +0100, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > Howdy! Hey.. > I received the optocoupler I needed from Martin Bergvill yesterday > and I now have the HPLX switching the shortwave receiver on in the > morning when it starts the weatherfax software. Glad it worked out for you. Enjoy your new automated Robo weather service :-) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:16:51 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Re: Where is a free telnet? Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try "Token 2", a telnet program from Korea http://www.ee.inha.ac.kr/~choung Kheehua ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Reinhardt" To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Where is a free telnet? > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > Some months ago I searched on the net for a (free) 32-bit telnet- > client, but couldn't found it. To day I'm 'upgrading' my internet- > system from 16 to 32 bit. Using Opera - I like the speed! - I > found that mail-sending buggy; so the wish for a telnet- > client (for testing e-mail-behavior) arised once more. > Has anybody a hot tip? > (It's for my PC, not for the lx200.) > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:21:39 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All you have done is add your name to a list that has no purpose or meaning That Statement says alot - the harm that can be done, is any attempt by rational folks inside software companies to "release" old software into the public domain will be hurt, as this will come in the transom as a representative sample of those that are the intended beneficiaries. I, for one, find the argument - "I don't like stealing your old software, so why don't you just give it to me?" - completely one-sided and un-appealing. And for that matter "I can't afford your current products" eliminates the most likely reason a software company would release their old software - that you will like it and want to up grade to the current model/release. Finally, the argument "your older products have no value, so give them to us" is just insulting their intelligence - if it has no value, why do you want it? Oh, I see, it *has* value, but I can't derive any material benefit from it, so I should give it away... Not very compelling arguments, and a step in the wrong direction if you are looking for favors from these folks, IMHO. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Harry Oldenhuis Ýmailto:star_byte@iprimus.com.au¨ Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 6:29 PM To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Subject: RE: AbandonWare revisited Now tell me What have you got to loose if we sign this potition ? in my opinion nothing All you have done is add your name to a list that has no purpose or meaning Now on the other hand if this stupid list does what it is made for then it has achived its purpose it was made for. Nothing gained nothing lost. There are two parts to a question, a yes or a no. I always say you have a NO for a answer so you are halfway there now you have to get the other half. Cheers Harry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 19:57:08 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: test - pls ignore ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:04:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader Comments: To: Russell Hemery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys, I went to download acrodos.exe and it was no longer available. Did anyone download it before it disappeared? Could you email it to me? TIA, Mike... Russell Hemery wrote: > Hi > > I recall a few people looking for a PDF reader for the LX > > Try > Name of Program: ACROBAT: Adobe's PDF DOS Reader > Location/Filename: > > > Cheers > > Russell > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:15:36 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I HIGHLY recommend AGAINST signing this petition. I went to the site and read the petition and I pretty much agree with your assesement of it. But I signed it anyway. There isn't any way to pressure software companies into making old stuff available. All we can do is ask and hope that they'll think about it and some of them will do it. You know how you can get boxed in on the freeway sometimes and you need to get over to the right fairly soon because your exit is coming up but if you try to force your way across the people to your right are unbluffable and they won't let you do it? I've found that the one method that almost never fails is to get the person's eye and with a questioning, non-agressive look, indicate what I want to do and make it seem like a request and let him decide if he wants to let me or not. As long as I'm not pushing the answer is nearly always yes. Most people are glad for a chance to be helpful. But they'll fight like crazy when pushed. I realize that software publishers are much meaner people than drivers. But it should work from time to time even with their hard hearts. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:30:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP 95lx questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The scale says there is a 1/4 battery life left. > Should I get a low battery warniing? >How many years can one expect a 95lx to function? I had this problem with my first 512k 95lx. It was a problem known to HP and they fixed it free even after it was out of warranty. I doubt that they still would, though. My nephew, a high school senior, has been using that 95lx for the past several years. I doubt that it gets gentle treatment. It's still working just fine. I bought it as soon as I heard of the 95lx. I'm sure it wasn't one of the first ones but it wasn't bought long after. So it's pretty old. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:16:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: DSL and LX I have. It works fine. You just need the right equipment. You just need the right equipment. My DSL provider uses PPOE and there's no way of doing that with the LX. Others require you to use DHCP which can also be a problem. I purchased a router from NetGEAR that acts as a NAT (mnet address translation) gateway to my DSL line. It supports DHCP and PPOE on the ISP side and will do NAT from a range of private addresses on the inside. Also remember that you need equipment that support 10Mbps. The Netgear does that fine. I then set up my HP to have an inside address (something like 192.168.1.34) and tell it to use the netgear as the default gateway and BAM! palmtop surfing is good-to-go. BTW: This Netgear router is the best little device I've ever seen for the price. It can act as a DHCP server as well as allow incoming TCP ports if you want to run servers on the 'inside' network. Pretty slick. You can do all this with a Linux or BSD box but it would take finding a cheapo 486 and figuring out how to make it all work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: Re: DSL and LX > Sean McKay writes: > > > Theoretically, if you have an ethernet card and the proper ethernet drivers > > running, you could plug into a home router that is plugged into a DSL line > > and have internet access. You would have to configure a home DSL/internet > > router (whether that is a box you've purchased that contains a hub/switch > > and DHCP server internally, or is a Linux/BSD/Win2K/98 box configured to > > share an internet connection) > > I would be most interested in hearing if anyone has tried this. > > Ted > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:07:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Where is a free telnet? Comments: To: Klaus Reinhardt Here's a good place to start. http://download.cnet.com/downloads/1,10150,0-10001-103-0-1-7,00.html?tag=src h&qt=telnet&cn=&ca=10001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Klaus Reinhardt" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:23 PM Subject: Where is a free telnet? > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- > Hi > > Some months ago I searched on the net for a (free) 32-bit telnet- > client, but couldn't found it. To day I'm 'upgrading' my internet- > system from 16 to 32 bit. Using Opera - I like the speed! - I > found that mail-sending buggy; so the wish for a telnet- > client (for testing e-mail-behavior) arised once more. > Has anybody a hot tip? > (It's for my PC, not for the lx200.) > > K@Rdt > ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:29:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 123 question - 123 equivalent o fExcel's Match function MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>> I want something slightly different, an @function that would return either the value of 4 Ýfor fourth down in the list¨, or would return the cell address "b4", Ýwhich I could then parse myself to get the value of 4¨ <<<<<<<<< I used 123 2.1, not 123 2.4 so this might not be true of 2.4. There is no function to do what you want. The only way I know of to do this is to use macros to do a search and put the index in a cell. /DQF won't quite do what you want and that's the only search available. I did write a search macro at work once. I don't have it now. If I remember right it took a day or two to do it and it was fairly slow. This is a weak area for the early 123. It could very well be that 2.4 has features that would make this easier. I've only used 2.4 on the palmtop and I never really bothered to learn what new features it has so I can't say. If you have the Thaddeus cd there are some macro managers complete with macros and I did see one with a search macro. I'm not sure if it'll do what you want but it's worth looking into it. Sorry I don't have a better answer. This isn't something 123 does easily. At least not in 2.1. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:59:47 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader Comments: To: Mike Schneider MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try this site: http://www.demense.freeserve.co.uk/dos/index.html Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:34:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: david feldman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit david feldman wrote: > So sorry! I didn't make a very clear posting - the CFII format (thicker) > would not fit in the "CF-only" slot of the Jornada 720 Ah... makes sense. > however, I have used the microdrive 1G > quite successfully with a PCMCIA adapter in the regular PCMCIA slot of the > (J720) machine. Exactly. Works with the PCMCIA adapter in the 200LX palmtop slot too. As to working - well, it is a so-so at best - 200LX does not provide enough power to the Microdrive :-( ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:34:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Tony, Tony Kan wrote: > There was an earlier thread about microdrives and I thought it concluded > that the microdrives drew too much current for the HP200 to support its > operation. Its interesting that you were able to make it work. I'm very > intrigued to read your "separate story". Yes, I posted what I know in that thread. It is a 1GB IBM microdrive. It works on the palmtop but the adapter is a must. It also requires a special driver I got from Mack. Mack warns, and I agree with the warning: It is EXPERIMENTAL ONLY! Writing took a lot of juice and the palmtop PCMCIA connector (approximately at the line where the M and I keys are) got fairly hot. I believe it was Longden (was it you?) who posted that more recently, these devices utilie less power than the earlier models. Writing was tedious and longer (much longer) than regular PCMCIA cards because presumably the power being at the limit created errors and rewrites. Sustained writes of about 50MB (copying C: drive to the microdrive) failed with I/O errors. I got the Microdrive for purposes other than using in the Palmtop, so it is not bad news from my point of view. The size issue: CF Type I is 3.3mm and CF type II is about 4.5 or 4.75mm. I measured with a ruler. The IBM Microdrive came to me with an adapter which fits in the palmtop. CF Type I (I measured a Sandisk) also fits and is usable in the same adapter. Hope this info helps. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:34:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chris Lott wrote: > This would be the case when using the drive in the HP200, however don't > forget that when using DoubleSlot device, your PCMCIA or CF w/adaptors > can draw power from an external power supply. Yes, and that solves the power issue! Presumably, the speed of the device then is improved. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 21:34:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Comments: To: Jon Barrett MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jon Barrett wrote: > You won't get a graphic DOS application running in a window. DOS CGA > graphics programs usually rely on direct video memory writes, which mandate Thanks. That completes my search for that little tidbit. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:15:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > I went to the site and read the petition and I pretty much agree > with your assesement of it. But I signed it anyway. There > isn't any way to pressure software companies into making old > stuff available. All we can do is ask and hope that they'll > think about it and some of them will do it. I agree that it is hard to force them (they are meaner than drivers on the freeway :-> ...) But I think the mistake in such a "petition" is that it sets the tone and essentially closes the door, not opens it. The "petition" does not really ask much, it tells the industry what is the right thing to do. As a negotiating strategy, this is pretty bad. The image you gave of driving on the freeway and needing to get to the other lanes was pretty good, I liked it. But it seems to me, instead of non-aggressive plaintive look, the "petition" bares its teeth and even has a very very subtle threat mentioning the notion of piracy and so on. This effort is not going to be regarded seriously by anyone in the industry. Oh sure, maybe someone will make "cooing" noises to soothe people, and you may hear various platitudes, but in reality the action from the industry will be zero with regards to this "petition". I think it is terribly unfortunate that this effort is misguided, because there is really room to talk, but slamming the door on the fingers of the vendors is not a really good way to welcome them into the discussions :-( ... One dangerous issue (from the perspective of the s/w vendors) is the view that s/w is nothing, not a real asset. This makes the bolld curdle in their veins and they just want to disconnect. There are other pervasive views that make discussions very tricky. If you start by telling these people - We know you are heartless bastards who want to make rip-off profits from useless s/w, is somewhat off-putting, don't you think? Telling them - your seets are really nothing - that is a little discouraging, no? .. I call this "when words come up and bite you in the ass!" :-> Happens to me all the time - I recognize these whereever they are, and these are some of them :-> Anyway Barry, I appreciate your openness and candor, and your willingness to get into the thick of it - head first! You are a braver sould than I! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:21:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002f01c096a7$5c75c220$63fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > That's a great price. Are they new or used? That's > considerably less than half the best price I can find on the > web. It's a used card that apparently the seller used to store pictures on it. I finally ended up stopping by Fry's, picked up an Apacer Compact Flash to ATA adapter ($15) and went to meet this person and tried the card. I ran chkdsk on it and it worked fine. I switched all of my data from a 20 Meg ATA card I had bought from Scott 1.5 yr ago, and after 1 day of use, I'm happy with it ! I'll probably try to sell the 20 Meg card now. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:57:36 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick west Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick west Subject: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, warnings, etc? running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. Also any reports on using Transfile under Windows 2000? Patrick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:50:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sputnik Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sputnik Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200102150534.VAA02269@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII have you tried using higher rated LiOn batterys with the microdrive or just standard batterys just curious if 2700mAh LiOn batterys would work?? or anything over 2000mAh ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:28:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jon Barrett Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jon Barrett Subject: Re: FLUFF: Red Planet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:04:55 +0100 > From: Nathalie Bugeaud > Subject: FLUFF: Red Planet > > >fellow earthling LX-ers > Hi Jimmy - Hendrix "the night i was born Mars turned out fire-red" > > >If you are a colonist on Mars > {snip} > >Or would you rather "localize" your time? If so, what system/device/tool > localise, off course (who wants to be woken at odd hours? - said by ER > doctors on call) > > >are you going to use to track your appointments in local Martian time? > it will take another 20 years till we start living there - who thinks the LX > will still be around then? > It's all *A PLOT* I tell you. Just another way for Bill G to force us to upgrade! Jon Jon Barrett jonzann@altavista.net Isopoint/Glidepad, Bring Back the Paw! (And give the Omnibooks back to Corvallis!) 500MHz Omnibook 900B and W2KP - - - and the OB800s are *NOT* for sale! - - - ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:30:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MAnderson@SHIPLEY.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Anderson Subject: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I apologize that I've not been tracking this thread closely (or even the list, for that matter). Therefore I may say some redundant or irrelevent things ... won't be the first or last time ... However, I've had some dealings in abandonware ... lucky or not? I got Commontime to release Cadenza for Newton as abandonware. This is a Lotus Notes Sync package, but was only good for Notes 4.x. They had no plans to go to Notes R5 support, as they decided to focus on WinCE. I have also been involved in NeXT abandonware efforts. There is now lots of cool free for single license stuff out there for NeXT (which is _such_ a cool & stable OS). It seems simple ... because it is. Users of these *dead* platforms (Newton, HPLX, NeXT) are all fairly sophistocated, and represent a low risk to most companies. It may take a bit of time and effort, but I think that a combination of a petition and 1:1 interaction should convince most people no longer developing or supporting software to allow free use. Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:50:43 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader In-Reply-To: <3A8BA810.FB13584B@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just an FYI - They also make PCMCIA adapters where the adapter is an ISA/PCI adapter, and you add the cards in the back of the machine. These are very for wireless networking cards (priced in the $30-50 range, IIRC). Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Patrick west Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:58 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: pcmcia desktop card reader Folks, I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, warnings, etc? running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:23:40 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: Re: HPLX now switching shortwave receiver on. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hi Owen, On 15 Feb 2001, at 0:04, Owen H. Morgan wrote: > I received the optocoupler I needed from Martin Bergvill yesterday > and I now have the HPLX switching the shortwave receiver on in the > morning when it starts the weatherfax software. congrats, you could take a picture of your device and show it on your homepage. Circuit diagram included :-) 73! Werner OE9FWV -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:34:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Who is (they) below? I didn't catch the original messages during a machine change here. Dave >Just an FYI - They also make PCMCIA adapters where the adapter >is an ISA/PCI adapter, and you add the cards in the back of the >machine. These are very for wireless networking cards (priced in >the $30-50 range, IIRC). > >Ken > >-----Original Message----- >From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On >Behalf Of >Patrick west >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:58 AM >To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu >Subject: pcmcia desktop card reader > > >Folks, > >I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card >reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, >warnings, etc? running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching >completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:54:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Yes, I posted what I know in that thread. It is a 1GB IBM > microdrive. It works on the palmtop but the adapter is a must. > It also requires a special driver I got from Mack. Mack warns, > and I agree with the warning: It is EXPERIMENTAL ONLY! > > Writing took a lot of juice and the palmtop PCMCIA connector > (approximately at the line where the M and I keys are) got > fairly hot. I believe it was Longden (was it you?) who posted > that more recently, these devices utilie less power than the > earlier models. Yup. The new 1gb/512mb/340mb and models use less juice than their 340mb/170mb predecessors, tho as you pointed out, this is still only marginal at best for use on the 200LX. Specs in PDF format are at IBMs site -> http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/prodspecs.htm > I got the Microdrive for purposes other than using in the > Palmtop, so it is not bad news from my point of view. Same here. It's usable on my Canon S10 camera, tho right this moment, it's supporting a dual-boot configuration (DOS 6.2 / Win95) for my Omnibook 530 (with 800mb to spare). It serves as "spare film" for me, since the S10's picture storage format is compatible with a generic DOS formatted disk (it just wants a directory called \DCIM). Storing pictures and ebooks on the Microdrive means I could also potentially use the LX as a viewer/reader (which uses less power than writes), tho even that is not a sure proposition. When I have time, I planned to try lithium AA's in the LX to see if that improves the card's usability at all (tho I'd hate to drop my NiMH's on a permanent basis). I have a feeling that nothing is to be gained for the 200LX until the next round of improvements from IBM. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 07:49:05 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Patrick West wrote: >I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card >reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, >warnings, etc? running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching >completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. I have an old ThinCard TMD-500 (early 90's vintage, with info on Poqet and HP95LX cards in the manual) that I got on eBay for $5.00. You see these every so often -- they're govennment surplus apparently. Anyway, I have found it works fine for SRAM cards under DOS on an old 386 I have, but it does not work reliably under Windows 95 :( Regards, Bob (no relation to David or Larry) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:54:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable david feldman wrote: > ... which works just fine in my Jornada 720 David, How do you rate the Jornada 720 vs. the HP200LX ? Looking at the specifications, the J720 has a 640*240 color backlit screen, a fast processor, 32MB RAM, both CF and PCMCIA slots and built-in modem. It can = play MP3 and browse the internet with all bells and whistles. Battery life is = 9 hours. What do you think about the weight (J720=3D0.5kg vs 200lx=3D0.3kg) and = form factor ? Can it run effectively one of the DOS emulators for WinCE ? It looks like a nice upgrade path for the HP200LX. Tx, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:53:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: FLUFF: Red Planet Comments: To: jimmytan@yeos.com.my MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You should turn off "return receipt requested" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:12:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: MAnderson@SHIPLEY.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When it comes to abandonware vendors are missing the boat. The vendors have obsolete software. The users of the 200lx want this obsolete software to use on their machines. It would seem logical that the vendors would set up something to take advantage of this income stream. They wouldn't even have to distribute any physical units....they could set up something where users could buy donwloads off of their website or thru a 3rd party (thaddeus). A company going out of business could sell a license to someone like thaddeus to sell legal copies from their website It's a win win situation for everyone... 200lx users get their software, the vendors get paid for their out of date software. I would also point out that the vendors can sell their older software and would need to provide no customer support. They would essentially be selling the software as as without support. IBM did it in the late 80s. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:33:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello Yves, I haven't owned a HP 200LX altho I played with one briefly a few years ago. I happily used OMNIBOOK 425 for 1995-2000 era and only recently back-burnered it as I haven't been travelling much - the OB425 was a pretty limited DOS machine with only ~420 KB of "low memory" or so barring special maneuvers, but a good lightweight travelling machine with Windows 3.1, a 14.4K modem, Trumpet 3, Opera 3.62, and Telnet/FTP clients, Flash-based "hard drive" --- enough of that...... Anyway, here's what I can tell you that might be useful: I purchased/installed POCKET DOS on my Jornada 720 which installed fine (as far as getting a DOS PROMPT is concerned) but I haven't tried any applications in it yet. The two big complaints I have about POCKET DOS are (1) still subject to the 5-minute auto power-off that can't be disabled in Windows CE, altho when I complained to POCKETDOS about this they said it would be "fixed" in some future release, and this to me is a major gotcha of windows CE, and (2) no linkage (at all!) to the API of the Windows CE system, thus preventing any ability of the DOS application to use (even via some hand-coded software interrupt) IP sockets or other resources hosted by Windows CE (when I complained to POCKET DOS about this they said there was no standard IP API gateway for DOS - true - and didn't seem interested in developing anything, even rudimentary, to support hand-coded DOS applications for this purpose.) It (POCKET DOS) does offer emulated access to COM/LPT ports, the file system(s), and the like, however, I don't know how faithfully POCKET DOS emulates the hardware registers of the UART, disc controller, printer port, etc., which DOS applications sometimes interact with, so I suspect it's not a perfect clone at that level. Speed wise it seems comparable to a mid-range 386 box, which should be adequate for 200LX users. There is at least one other DOS emulation for Windows CE, but the Jornada 720's processor (STRONGARM) is rather new to the CE marketplace so not all applications are ported to this platform yet. The Jornada 720's internal modem works fine (in straight Windows CE usage) but did fail early on (a static discharge) - HP fixed quickly and under warranty, but I'm more cautions now in this (Denver, Colorado) high static/dry air environment. As an aside - - - I gather that the 200LX is powered by AA cells - Omnibook 300/425/430 had this feature (4 AA cells as an option, but never plug AC power pack in while AA cells installed or machine is killed badly) but I didn't avail myself of that capability very often. The Omnibook's proprietary NiMh battery packs are cheap to have rebuilt. The Jornada 3xx series (predecessor to the 720) used two AA cells for power (but isn't properly calibrated to exploit fully the capacity of modern 1600 mAh AA NiMh cells as far as I can tell.) The Jornada 720 uses a LiIon battery pack (about $70 or so, more for the "extended capacity" pack) with no option for AA cells. The claimed 9 hours of run time seems optimistic on the Jornada 720 altho I haven't tested that because I don't have the need for so much time between recharges, as I don't travel extensively. Hope this is helpful/interesting. Dave (no relation to other Feldmans on this list) > david feldman wrote: > > ... which works just fine in my Jornada 720 > >David, > >How do you rate the Jornada 720 vs. the HP200LX ? Looking at the >specifications, the J720 has a 640*240 color backlit screen, a fast >processor, 32MB RAM, both CF and PCMCIA slots and built-in modem. It can >play >MP3 and browse the internet with all bells and whistles. Battery life is 9 >hours. > >What do you think about the weight (J720=0.5kg vs 200lx=0.3kg) and form >factor ? Can it run effectively one of the DOS emulators for WinCE ? > >It looks like a nice upgrade path for the HP200LX. > >Tx, > > \/ > /ves > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:20:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kelly McMillin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kelly McMillin Subject: Windows CE Upgrades for 300LX series Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have found a couple of sources for Windows CE upgrades, but they are = $125.00 and $148.00. I could just about get a used windows CE 2.0 unit on = e-bay for that much. The upgrade HP Part Number is F1239A The following website shows 48 in stock for $125.00 http://www.codemicro.com/ctsrch/content1n6n3.html=20 I found another source that has them in stock for about $148.00 CMAS Catalog of the State of California for Hewlett Packard (HP) Products = 800.326.3230 www.mmgtech.com Phone: 1+916.372.5206 Fax: 1+916.372.8284 Does anyone have a cheaper solution? That's what I get for buying the unit on ebay without doing more research! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:37:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The "petition" does not really ask much, > it tells the industry what is the right thing > to do. As a negotiating strategy, this > is pretty bad. I guess I agree with that. I hadn't taken the petition to be an effective voice. Just a voice. At some point some point Bill Gates might be having lunch with the head of Borland and the Borland guy is bragging about the good PR they got (on a small scale but still very positive) from making some of their old products available free. He might mention that the people this benefits most will usually be the ones who have been dealing with computers for years; the ones who are always asked for input about purchases. And I know from experience that such people are asked within a corporation both by individuals buying computers for home use and by executives having to approve future directions. That might make Bill pause a minute and think about how it might benefit him. And then he might think of the number of requests in one form or another they've received for that kind of action. The requests themselves aren't likely to be remembered. Yes, they'll plant seeds, good or bad, at the time they're sent. But ultimately even a petition like this might do more good than harm. > Anyway Barry, I appreciate your openness and > candor, and your willingness to get into the thick > of it - head first! You are a braver sould than I! Does that mean something like "Fools jump in where angels fear to tread"? :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:38:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: loic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "loic" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 3:21 AM Subject: RE: Compact flash cards > > That's a great price. Are they new or used? That's > > considerably less than half the best price I can find on the > > web. > > It's a used card that apparently the seller used to store pictures on it. I > finally ended up stopping by Fry's, picked up an Apacer Compact Flash to ATA > adapter ($15) and went to meet this person and tried the card. I ran chkdsk > on it and it worked fine. I switched all of my data from a 20 Meg ATA card I > had bought from Scott 1.5 yr ago, and after 1 day of use, I'm happy with it > ! I'll probably try to sell the 20 Meg card now. I'm normally hesitant to buy a used flash card, but I don't think I would have passed that deal up. You did good! Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:41:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A8BF1F5.59EB686C@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this might be off topic, but this scares me! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/16933.html According to this article the newest version of Windows XP will not allow one have an unsigned version of music on there system. I have a small compilation of MP3's of my own CD collection for personal usage, and theft prevention, If my collection would get stolen I always have a backup copy. I think people have to realize that corporations only do what's best for there needs and bottom lines... Getting back to abandonware, people are being fed the proverbial *&(* when it comes to older programs and hardware. Manufacturers always want you to buy the latest and greatest for support reasons etc. =46or what its worth companies can be forced to support out of date equipment. I know of one company that supported an intel 386-25 computer until Y2K reared its ugly head. The users complained of its speed but admired its reliability and rich features, unsupported by the replacement computer. Some features of the old computer allowed the users to complete there tasks 2 or 3 times the speed of the replacement. (Remember the 200LX?) As of this writing, the equipment is still being avidly used by all who have one, and are NOT supported by original equipment manufacturer. It would be great if these software and hardware companies could be obligated to give some level of support for this. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:29:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 123 question - 123 equivalent o fExcel's Match function MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > There is no function to do what you want. > The only way I know of to do this is to use > macros to do a search and put the index > in a cell. /DQF won't quite do what you want > and that's the only search available. As I was reading my answer to you I realized that there is another way to do this. Not greatly efficient and not simple to write, but probably better and a lot easier to do than a search. Put @vlookup in a loop. Let it's index be in some cell which is pre-incremented each time through the loop. Test each returned word for equality with your criteria word and when you find it, stop the loop and your index cell now contains it's numeric position within the list. Actually, as I think of it, using this same technique without @vlookup would be even better. Just test each item in turn till you find an equality. That essentially is a simple localized search. Probably faster and even easier to write, too. Barry (the sneakiest programmer in the west) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:52:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Eric Greenspoon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Eric Greenspoon Subject: Re: Compact flash cards In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes it's a good price. It blows Scott's prices right out of the water! No downside to using the compact flash as long as you have the adapter to fit it into the LX. Where are you buying it from? I should be getting the 160 Mb Compact Flash card for $180... does >anybody know if it's a good price ? Thank for any input you can give me ! > >Loic > > >____________________________ >BN3 Hosted Customer Service Solution, basic service FREE. >CRM enable your web site in 5 minutes! http://www.bn3.com > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > -Eric ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:57:28 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader Comments: To: Patrick west MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- >> Also any reports on using Transfile under Windows 2000? >> It works just fine. I had no issues installing or using Transfile with Windows 2000. Sally I work for them, I don't speak for them or they for me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:18:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > I guess I agree with that. I hadn't taken the petition to be an > effective voice. Just a voice. At some point some point Bill > Gates might be having lunch with the head of Borland and the > Borland guy is bragging about the good PR they got (on a small > scale but still very positive) from making some of their old > products available free. I could see these 2 sitting down to lunch and Bill Gates says "do you believe these people...they actually want us us to give our old software away for free." At which point Bill Gates would say "That will happen when pigs fly." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:20:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > I switched all of my data from a 20 > Meg ATA card I > > had bought from Scott 1.5 yr ago, and after 1 day of use, I'm > happy with it After 1 day of use? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:30:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Ace Frehley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ace Frehley wrote: > I know this might be off topic, but this scares me! > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/16933.html > The next step is for Windoze to check for "unregistered" or "pirated" software....this scares me because I have a legal copy of an accounting package but it will probably show up as "unregistered" because the company records for the manufacturer are so screwed up. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:44:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please check your work. I never wrote what you attribute to me. I've never bought a card from Scott. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "KenLondon" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Compact flash cards > Barry wrote: > > > I switched all of my data from a 20 > > Meg ATA card I > > > had bought from Scott 1.5 yr ago, and after 1 day of use, I'm > > happy with it > > After 1 day of use? > > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:07:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Where is a free telnet? Comments: To: Kheehua MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi Many, many thanks to all - I got 5 (!) links to try. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:39:46 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Acceptable DC input voltage of HP 360LX? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed The AC adapter of the HP 360LX is rated at 5.25V @ 1.5A DC. The question is - what is the acceptable input voltage range where the unit will operate properly without damage? I'd like to use an external NiCd battery as part of a telemetry gathering application (internal batteries won't last long enough), and I need to know what sort of regulation (if any) I'd need... Tnx, Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:14:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been using the MicroTech CameraMate external PCMCIA reader/writer for the past few months. It's a parallel port connection but I just run it through an A/B switch box on the desktop PC as I only use it occassionally whereas I use my laserjet printer more frequently. See: www.microtechint.com for specs and compatibility w/ NT, Win2k, etc. I'm running it on Win98SE w/o any problems. Handles Type I, II, III PC Cards and CF w/ Type II adapter in the top slot, CF direct connect in the bottom slot. One thing I really like about it is that it is very small and lightweight. An easy companion for the laptop and digital camera when on the road. With shipping cost the unit ran me $99 direct from MicroTech. Read somewhere that there's supposed to be a parallel to USB adapter that would make the MicroTech unit even more adavantageous and useful between older systems and the current crop of high end systems, be they PC or MAC. Bob On 02-15 02:57am MST, you wrote: > Folks, > > I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card > reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, > warnings, etc? running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching > completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. > > Also any reports on using Transfile under Windows 2000? > > Patrick > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:55:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Windows Comments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 1) Just tried the Connectivity Pack under Win2000 from a full screen session. At first it didn't work. The main system manager would work and most of the applications would work, but, Filer would not come up at all. I freed up some environment space and it worked. It linked up with, and transfered files to, my 200LX. A bit slower and "rougher" that under pure MS-DOS, but it does work. 2) Jon Barrett wrote: > You won't get a graphic DOS application running in a window. DOS CGA > graphics programs usually rely on direct video memory writes, which > that the program takes complete control of the video card. I wrote a program to demonstrate a state machine called PSEUDO2.EXE. It runs in a window under Win 98 on a machine with a true color driver. It does not run on my machine when running Win 2000. It does run in a box when run under OS/2 (with a true color driver). It does write directly to the CGA video memory due to implementation and performance considerations. See "State Machine" on S.U.P.E.R. if you want to run your own tests. I suspect that the author of your video drivers are the final arbiter as to whether a graphic program will work with modern video cards. Amusingly (to us that are somewhat easily so) LXPIC wil work in a VDM box in modes 6, and 13H. But not in modes 10H and 12H. Hmm, one of my mode 13H programs won't work, but the mode 6 varient does. Hey, Stefan, does LXPIC use the default palette in mode 13H? Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:06:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Free to "good home" 33.6 Apollo PCMCIA MODEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:59:13 -0500 (EST) Hi All: Starting my "spring" office cleaning early this year;-) I have an "Apollo" PCMCIA MODEM whixch I don't use. It works OK in a 100/200 LX, BUT it makes alot of noise! I could never figure out how to get it quiet(another LISTmember tried as well). I works just fine in all 3 of my Notebooks. Send me a quick note by Saturday telling me why you need it, and if I decide you need it most, its yours. Please include shipping address. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:17:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: Free to "good home" 33.6 Apollo PCMCIA MODEM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:06:10 -0500, Al Kind wrote: > how to get it quiet(another LISTmember tried as well). I works just > fine in all 3 of my Notebooks. It's not a bad noise..... just a 'different' noise :) Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- -- Republicans -> http://HillaryHell.com -- -- Democrats -> http://Hillary2K4.com -- -- Explosion? -> http://ReadyToExplode.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:32:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I've been using the MicroTech CameraMate external PCMCIA > reader/writer for the past few months. It's a parallel port > connection but I just run it through an A/B switch box on > the desktop PC as I only use it occassionally whereas I use > my laserjet printer more frequently. See: > www.microtechint.com for specs and compatibility w/ NT, > Win2k, etc. I'm running it on Win98SE w/o any problems. > > Handles Type I, II, III PC Cards and CF w/ Type II adapter > in the top slot, CF direct connect in the bottom slot. > One thing I really like about it is that it is very small > and lightweight. An easy companion for the laptop and > digital camera when on the road. With shipping cost the unit > ran me $99 direct from MicroTech. Thanks for the mini-review, Bob. I was interested in one of these also. Looks like CDW has them in stock for $58 + $7.69 shipping -> http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?edc=125958 - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:10:12 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kelly McMillin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kelly McMillin Subject: Re: Free to "good home" 33.6 Apollo PCMCIA MODEM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Will that work on a 320 LX?? >>> Al Kind 02/15/01 03:06PM >>> Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:59:13 -0500 (EST) Hi All: Starting my "spring" office cleaning early this year;-) I have an "Apollo" PCMCIA MODEM whixch I don't use. It works OK in a 100/200 LX, BUT it makes alot of noise! I could never figure out how to get it quiet(another LISTmember tried as well). I works just fine in all 3 of my Notebooks. Send me a quick note by Saturday telling me why you need it, and if I decide you need it most, its yours. Please include shipping address. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml=20 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:39:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Please check your work. I never wrote what you attribute to me. > I've never bought a card from Scott. That is what came through on this end....maybe someone needs to be more careful about what they forward. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:57:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: Re: Another TSR request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, There is a site dedicated to Wordperfect. Maybe you can find something there or somebody can help. It surely would help to have a tsr like the one you mention. http://www.mailinglist.nu/dataperfect/index.php3 Cheers, Inigo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:03:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Longden Loo wrote: > When I have time, I planned to try lithium AA's in the LX to see if that > improves the card's usability at all (tho I'd hate to drop my NiMH's on a > permanent basis). I have a feeling that nothing is to be gained for the > 200LX until the next round of improvements from IBM. Why would Lithiums have more power than an adapter? I used my 1GB on an adapter and it was marginal. Can't imagine the batteries would be better. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:03:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Ace Frehley MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ace Frehley wrote: > I think people have to realize that corporations only do what's best > for there needs and bottom lines... They have to. It is their legal duty! If they do not, they can go to jail, I kid you not. > Getting back to abandonware, people are being fed the proverbial *&(* > when it comes to older programs and hardware. Manufacturers always > want you to buy the latest and greatest for support reasons etc. Clearly. And there is another reason. Their old software serves them too to produce tax shelters and other economic benefits - to support their bottom line, just as you said above! > For what its worth companies can be forced to support out of date > equipment. I know of one company that supported an intel 386-25 > computer until Y2K reared its ugly head. You did not give support to the assertion that a company can be forced to support out of date equipment, only how great the 386-25 was... Care to explain how to force? > It would be great if these software and hardware companies could be > obligated to give some level of support for this. That would be terrific. I, as a vendor, would support a framework like this. It would also support the bendors by requiring the customer to pay an appropriate amount to offset the cost plus a reasonable profit of such an obligation. TANSTAAFL - not a town in South Africa, but simply "There Ain't No such Thing As A Free Lunch!" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:03:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon wrote: > When it comes to abandonware vendors are missing the boat. The > vendors have obsolete software. With all due respect, it is you who is missing the boat. The old software packages are depreciating assets on the books of many vendors and they produce financial and economic benefits in the form of tax offsets. As such they are not obsolete. I bet you did not know that. I bet you will ignore this point as several other poster here have. I wonder why? (I hope not! I got one of you already! ) Changing the status to an active software, no matter how slight, even if unsupported, negates the benefits, and negates them retroactively, sometimes with significant negative financial impacts. Beware of declaring something as obsolete so willy-nilly. > The users of the 200lx want this > obsolete software to use on their machines. It would seem logical > that the vendors would set up something to take advantage of this > income stream. See above.You assumptions and logic are faulty. Ý... more was snipped...¨ >It's a win win situation for everyone... Not really, Read my response above. > I would also point out that the vendors can sell their older software > and would need to provide no customer support. They would > essentially be selling the software as as without support. IBM did > it in the late 80s. And IBM had to deal with significant financial consequences because of this. They could absorb it, but it was a problem, not a benefit. Smaller companies woult hurt more. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:03:46 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: AbandonWare revisited Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > At some point some point Bill > Gates might be having lunch with the head of Borland and the > Borland guy is bragging about the good PR they got (on a small > scale but still very positive) from making some of their old > products available free. .... and then Barry woke up, ah, this was just a dream! > > Anyway Barry, I appreciate your openness and > > candor, and your willingness to get into the thick > > of it - head first! You are a braver sould than I! > > Does that mean something like "Fools jump in where angels fear > to tread"? :) ROFL... It means that I admire you for being able to discuss this difficult issue with some humor ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:49:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: IKEA Alkaline batteries I discovered some new alkaline batteries that are sold by the IKEA furniture stores. It seems that these batteries show up as having 3.08 volts when I first install them. Every other alkaline battery I've ever tried shows up as 3.0 volts exactly. They're produced by Varta in germany and are all yellow in color. They were dirt cheap,too. I think I paid $2 for a ten pack. I can't say much for battery life as I don't have any of that kewl 'battery monitor' software, but qualitatively, they seem okay. I especially like the color.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:59:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > When I have time, I planned to try lithium AA's in the LX to see >if that improves the card's usability at all Why would Lithiums have more power than an adapter? I used my 1GB on an adapter and it was marginal. Can't imagine the batteries would be better. >> Call it magical thinking. If that fails, I'll try some batteries kissed by virgins and blessed with holy water . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:13:49 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: More about abandonware But these assets must eventually be fully depreciated. You can't write them off forever. Is that why we've started to see some applications being released? Even M$ released Word for DOS. Avi wrote: > software packages are depreciating assets on the books of many vendors > and they produce financial and economic benefits in the form of tax > offsets. As such they are not obsolete. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:22:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: YAHOO Email access with Post/LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A Meshar wrote: > The details: Yahoo will provide a free email account, > accessible on the Web (http://mail.yahoo.com). To access this > account from email packages suchas Post/LX (my favorite :-) > ...) You need to go a few more steps. Yahoo also offers to provide a mailbox with an email address and domain name of your choice for $35 a year, provided such domain name is available. Has anybody tried this? What are the pros and cons? I imagine that Yahoo only provide an alias to your account, so the address should be limited by what is not taken as username in their database, and the domain name by what have been registered, still it would be nice to have a personalised email address that need not be changed no matter what ISP. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:02:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > They have to. It is their legal duty! If they do not, they can > go to jail, I kid you not. Can you clarify that? > Clearly. And there is another reason. Their old software > serves them too to produce tax shelters and other economic > benefits - to support their bottom line, just as you said > above! You've said that before, can you give us more details? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:09:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > With all due respect, it is you who is missing the boat. The old > software packages are depreciating assets on the books of many vendors > and they produce financial and economic benefits in the form of tax > offsets. As such they are not obsolete. And what exactly enables companies to declare old software as deprecating assets? And what is the depreciation rate? And why does it matter whether or not they support their licensed users? The number of users should be shrinking, right? > Changing the status to an active software, no matter how slight, even if > unsupported, negates the benefits, and negates them retroactively, > sometimes with significant negative financial impacts. Hmm, so a licensed user can still use old software but that software is deemed "inactive"??? I wonder what the requirements are to declare a software inactive. I would think that as long as there are users, then the software is active. And if the software is an asset, it should be possible to donate it, right? > Beware of declaring something as obsolete so willy-nilly. Ok, so not obsolete, but how about making it freeware? > And IBM had to deal with significant financial consequences because of > this. They could absorb it, but it was a problem, not a benefit. Smaller > companies woult hurt more. You keep mentioning smal companies. Could you give us a real-life example? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:25:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "David R. Birch" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David R. Birch" Subject: HELP!! Where's my RAM? Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had to open up my 2X speed 8 meg 200LX to straighten the PCMCIA pins, and when I powered up, the screen was offset and I only had the original 1 meg available. I fixed the screen with the device driver in config.sys, how do I get back the RAM? David ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:59:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader Hi Mike, >Hey guys, > >I went to download acrodos.exe and it was no longer available. Did anyone >download it before it disappeared? Could you email it to me? I got it and still have it, but it's over 2 megs in size. Much too large to email as an attachment. Besides, I dropped it as a possible personal project. It was my understanding, from reading its docs, that it runs in protected mode, which the HP200LX does not offer. If you can figure out how to get it to run on a HP200LX, I'd be interested in it again, as well. If you still want it and haven't found it yet, send me a private email and we'll figure out a way to get a copy of it to you. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:17:33 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Win 98 or Win2K? Jon Barrett writes: > You won't get a graphic DOS application running in a window. DOS CGA > graphics programs usually rely on direct video memory writes, which mandate > that the program takes complete control of the video card. This was done for > speed. Even the BIOS and DOS interrupts are likely to (at a lower level) do > this. It would be theoretically possible to write a wrapper to trap this, > but would be more trouble than it's worth. I have some very old CGA graphics games which DO run in a window. I think the CPACK wont run in a window because it is using EGA graphics. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 14 Feb 2001 to 15 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-65) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From:Patrick west Folks, I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Patrick When I was researching card readers I came across a series of PCNCIA card readers that plugged into a card slot (probably ISA) and had the slot for the PC card on the expansion card. So you would have to insert the PC card in the back of the computer I just checked their website (www.scmmicro.com) and not only found no mention of the direct loading PC card reader but no mention of PCMCIA readers at all. If your desktop has a spare ISA slot and you don't mind reaching around back it might be worth looking for. -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:15:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Kelley, Timothy P" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Kelley, Timothy P" Subject: Conversion to txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get attachments like word documents or pdfs converted to text and mailed back to you in an email. So if you receive an email with an attachment you forward the attachment to a certain address, it converts it to a text message and sends it back to you. Thanks, Regards, Timothy P. Kelley GIS eSolutions 713-432-2036 Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:28:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF:FS:FA: Unused HP 200lx 4b MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! I have an unused 4mb 200lx on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215215717 Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:17:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Cohen Subject: MSN email MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have been trying to access my MSN POP email from WWWLX on the 200LX without succcess. I can do it from Outlook and Outlook express, but I log on through MSN as my ISP to do that. On the 200LX I use classic Compuserve. Any BTDT experiences? Colin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 18:24:24 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Kan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Kan Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday In-Reply-To: <026a01c097b6$d6b3bf00$7613140a@siebel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know about American law but in New Zealand, Directors have a fiduciary duty to shareholders and if this is breached then yes, you really do end up in Jail, although this is rare because there is a burden of proof. HTH Tony. -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Fryday Sent: Friday, 16 February 2001 14:02 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: More about abandonware > They have to. It is their legal duty! If they do not, they can > go to jail, I kid you not. Can you clarify that? > Clearly. And there is another reason. Their old software > serves them too to produce tax shelters and other economic > benefits - to support their bottom line, just as you said > above! You've said that before, can you give us more details? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:40:19 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Re: Compact flash cards In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.20010213200906.3347c18c@toronto.enoreo.on.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > No downside to using the compact flash as long as you have the adapter to > fit it into the LX. > Where are you buying it from? It's from a colleague's friend. I truly think this person had the cards to store pictures on it and did not need them anymore, although I did not ask too many questions. He had 3 for sale, and I bought 2. Unfortunatley, I doubt this is an ongoing source like Scott, but I can ask if he still has the last one and let the list knows. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:40:22 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Re: Compact flash cards Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A8C0FD0.E17F0C2@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > After 1 day of use? Well.. 2 days now of intensive use, should I worry ? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:18:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > With all due respect, it is you who is missing the boat. The old > software packages are depreciating assets on the books of many vendors > and they produce financial and economic benefits in the form of tax > offsets. As such they are not obsolete. > My bet would be that the IRS would lean towards wanting these companies to to attempt to sell these old units and take a depreciation rather than take accelerated depreciation and write them off quicker. > Changing the status to an active software, no matter how slight, even if > unsupported, negates the benefits, and negates them retroactively, > sometimes with significant negative financial impacts. > > I would point out that taxs are very much open to interpretation. There may be wide differences between when the IRS calls software obsolete and when a company calls them obsolete. > And IBM had to deal with significant financial consequences because of > this. They could absorb it, but it was a problem, not a benefit. Smaller > companies woult hurt more. Maybe the lesson from this would be that many companies are too quick to declare software obsolete...maybe they need to try unloading it first before the declaration as obsolete. I would point out that if a company can unload old software on platforms like the 200lx they could deplete there inventory before entering into a hassle with the IRS about whether it is obsolete. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:23:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , loic Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: loic Subject: Re: Conversion to txt Comments: To: "Kelley, Timothy P" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For pdf to text, you can use pdf2txt@adobe.com (see info on http://access.adobe.com/access_email.html). I'm not aware of any doc2txt but would be interested if you find one. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Kelley, Timothy P > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 20:15 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Conversion to txt > > > I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get attachments like word > documents or pdfs converted to text and mailed back to you in an email. > So if you receive an email with an attachment you forward the > attachment to > a certain address, it converts it to a text message and sends it back to > you. > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > Timothy P. Kelley > GIS eSolutions > 713-432-2036 > Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce > o__ > _.>/)_ > (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:28:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Alkalines tested by Dutch Consumer League MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Our Dutch Consumer League (Consumentenbond) just tested a host of different Alkalines from all sorts of vendors. Their conclusion: All Alkalines available here give about equal usage time, so the cheapest are the best in terms of cost per hour.( A price variation of 1 to 2.5 !!) Or, in email terms: YMMVVL (VL:Very Little ;-) Lithium give indeed up to 40% longer times, but are about twice to five times as expensive per hour. And don't forget: For the price of a set of lithium batteries you can buy a good Maglite clone, to carry your spare alkalines, nicads or NiMhs. Michel -----Original Message----- From: Ed Padin Ýmailto:ohdamnthathurts@YAHOO.COM¨ Sent: 16 February 2001 01:49 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: IKEA Alkaline batteries I discovered some new alkaline batteries that are sold by the IKEA furniture stores. It seems that these batteries show up as having 3.08 volts when I first install them. Every other alkaline battery I've ever tried shows up as 3.0 volts exactly. They're produced by Varta in germany and are all yellow in color. They were dirt cheap,too. I think I paid $2 for a ten pack. I can't say much for battery life as I don't have any of that kewl 'battery monitor' software, but qualitatively, they seem okay. I especially like the color.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:43:31 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A Meshar wrote -----Original Message----- From: A Meshar Ýmailto:sponsor@FTEL.NET¨ Sent: 16 February 2001 01:04 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: More about abandonware KenLondon wrote: > When it comes to abandonware vendors are missing the boat. The > vendors have obsolete software. With all due respect, it is you who is missing the boat. The old software packages are depreciating assets on the books of many vendors and they produce financial and economic benefits in the form of tax offsets. As such they are not obsolete. I agree, and even without a company you can use your obsolete software for tax reduction: Some time ago a small non-profit corporation was looking for a official license of Visual Basic 3 - to develop software for a host of Win3 PC's. I sent them my personal copy ( bought dearly), and requested a 'Thank you for the software with a value of ...' letter. Got me a tax reduction due to the gift to a non-profit organisation/ charity. This way I often get rid of old hardware and software. AFAIK this should work in most countries. Just be capable of showing a formal proof. So, indeed, abandonware is NOT considered a free for all, as far as your tax inspector is concerned. Only once a company has depreciated the value to 0, they might consider giving some stuff away or they lose money!. Declaring software of no value, by giving the stuff away, may get them into trouble with the tax inspector for fraudulent depreciation. - Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:51:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Abandonware Revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:51:35 -0700, Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > OOPS! Sorry about the vCard! Forgot again, no flames, please! LOL Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:08:52 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Re: Conversion to text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii mail it to pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu Neill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:47:16 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: DSL and LX Comments: To: Yves Leurquin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MochaPPP is available at www.mochasoft.DK Yves Leurquin wrote: > Tomas Moberg wrote: > > > (IIIRC) www.mochasoft.com. This is a program which will let you = connect > > Thomas, > > I can not connect to www.mochasoft.com, could you please e-mail mochappp= to > me or point me to a web site which has got it. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:25:50 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I went to download acrodos.exe and it was no longer available. Did = anyone download When You cant find a file in general - Go to ftpsearch.lycos.com and do a = search for the file, in this case acrodos.zip. You will find it on many places. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:32:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , john kavanagh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: john kavanagh Subject: Re: Conversion to txt Comments: To: "Kelley, Timothy P" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii mailto:pdf2txt@sun.trace.wisc.edu pdf2html@sun.trace.wisc.edu Use the above two addresses to translate pdf files. The first one is to translate to a text file and the second to a html file. All you need to do is email your file to one of these addresses and you will receive your translation back in a couple of minutes. --- "Kelley, Timothy P" wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get > attachments like word > documents or pdfs converted to text and mailed back > to you in an email. > So if you receive an email with an attachment you > forward the attachment to > a certain address, it converts it to a text message > and sends it back to > you. > > Thanks, > > > Regards, > > Timothy P. Kelley > GIS eSolutions > 713-432-2036 > Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce > o__ > _.>/)_ > (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at > http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ===== John Kavanagh www.kavanaghhomes.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:36:17 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:54:01 -0800, Longden Loo wrote: > The new 1gb/512mb/340mb and models use less juice than their 340mb/170mb > predecessors, tho as you pointed out, this is still only marginal at best I just bought a 3400MB one for my Omnibook on ebay, it will arrive soon, I hope. How will I know if it is a newer or older model? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:36:27 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:12:53 -0500, KenLondon wrote: > When it comes to abandonware vendors are missing the boat. The > vendors have obsolete software. The users of the 200lx want this > obsolete software to use on their machines. It would seem logical > that the vendors would set up something to take advantage of this > income stream. They wouldn't even have to distribute any physical > units....they could set up something where users could buy donwloads > off of their website or thru a 3rd party (thaddeus). A company going > out of business could sell a license to someone like thaddeus to sell > legal copies from their website It's a win win situation for everyone... > 200lx users get their software, the vendors get paid for their out of > date software. We had exactly that problem a few years ago when some of us listers wanted to buy the software Palmtop Circuit by DesignSoft (the contact to DesignSoft has been established by Tamas Feher). They had this piece of very nice software in their archives, but actually didn't want to dig for it, because this would cost so much man hours that they thought they wouldn't get all these man hours back with selling the software to a few "palmtop freaks". However, they did it. They said, they needed at least 12 orders (was it 12?) and if they would get 12 orders, they would dig it up and sell it for 80 US$. If I remember correctly, 12 of us wanted to buy it. But finally only 2 or three bought it, right? I am one of them, and I am very satisfied with Palmtop Circuit. It's a wonderful enhancement for my little Palmtop. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:22:45 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: HELP!! Where's my RAM? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I had to open up my 2X speed 8 meg 200LX to straighten the PCMCIA pins, > and when I powered up, the screen was offset and I only had the original > 1 meg available. I fixed the screen with the device driver in > config.sys, how do I get back the RAM? Depending on your version of TechRam software you have to put another driver into your config.sys of the "little" C: drive : device=3Dc:\rd32\spd31.exe /M /C /K /B device=3Dc:\rd32\rdt2t.exe The first line loads the speed driver (=3Dfixes the screen), the second one activates the "big" drive. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:08:58 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Windows Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephan R. Novosad wrote: > Amusingly (to us that are somewhat easily so) LXPIC will work in > a VDM box in modes 6, and 13H. But not in modes 10H and 12H. Hmm, > one of my mode 13H programs won't work, but the mode 6 varient does. > Hey, Stefan, does LXPIC use the default palette in mode 13H? LXPIC never uses the default palette. It uses the palette coming with the picture or it builds it's own by the RGB information coming with a true color pictures. LXPIC always writes directly to the video memory, in all modes it supports. On my Win95 system I can switch back to a small DOS window for CGA,EGA and both VGA modes (640x480 and 320x200), but for none of the VESA modes (8bit high resolution). Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:22:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Michael Peyton Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Peyton Organization: WCOM Subject: cc:Mail "Manual Dial" Issue/Fix? I have not been able to get the "Manual Dial" option to work in cc:Mail, even though the ATDT dialing has been fine. The symptom is (if I time it right) the modem will appear to attempt to lock, but will eventually give a dialing error message. I am going to need to manual dial, as I plan to use it international and use calling cards. I was hoping that someone on list had done battle with this before and had "figured it out". Any pointers for manual dial? I have looked at the D:dat/hayes.mdm file and there looks to be hope of creating an alternative .mdm file, but I have not tried anything yet. In D:_DAT/hayes.mdm There is a line: MANUAL DIAL=ATX3S9=6D But I am not familiar with the ATX command, though I do plan to research it, soon. BTW, I am running a 2 Mb 200LX and the modem is a PCMIA Megahertz XJ2144 (14.4kbs). Any comments on this modem? Anyone know the current draw on this modem? It seems OK, once it connects. BTW 2, what is the top modem speed at palmtop.com? Should I leave it at 9600 (as per the web site)? If I "evolve" and tackle CCLXPOP, has someone figured out how to manual dial with it? TIA, Mike Peyton ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:36:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Thank you for your detailled review of the Jornada 720 on PocketDOS, = Modem and Batteries functionnalities. You are looking at the move to the = Jornada 720 from a different angle i.e. the J720 is smaller compared to the = Omnibook but larger compared to the HP200LX. As you say, the J720 is still plagued by the CE operating system and pocketDOS may not be a perfect replacement for it (UART ports, disk = drives, etc...). Apparently the emulator speed is comparable to a 80386 while the HP200lx only has a 80186 processor. My last concern is about the form factor, can you conveniently carry it = in your pocket where-ever you go ? Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:36:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: 123 question - 123 equivalent o fExcel's Match function MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__next_part__1337509404__" --__next_part__1337509404__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tony, It looks pretty easy to me : just add a column C with a sequential = numbering from 1 to xxx : A |B |C | ------------------- 1|this word1 1 2|is word2 2 3|a word3 3 4|list word4 4 5|of word5 5 6|words word6 6 7| 8| Have the vlookup defined as : vlookup("list",a1:C6,2) (note C6 and index 2) The last parameter of the vlookup will define the column data to report, = in this case "4", change the last parameter to "1" and "word4" will be = returned. Regards, \/ /ves --__next_part__1337509404__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --__next_part__1337509404__-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:04:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Tony Kan In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>I don't know about American law but in New Zealand, Directors have a >>fiduciary duty to shareholders and if this is breached then yes, >>you really >>do end up in Jail, although this is rare because there is a >>burden of proof. this is common in most places in the world EXCEPT the usa ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:04:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A8CC64B.B864EB90@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>My bet would be that the IRS would..... brave man betting on what a us government agency will do............. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 07:29:35 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hello again Yves, For your question about pocket size - it is possible to carry the 720 in a coat pocket, but not in my trousers pockets. My primary usage is for on-line access via cellular phone, so I have been carrying the 720 in a TARGUS soft case with a very bulky interconnect cable to my Motorola digital PCS phone. Yesterday a sierra wireless PCMCIA PCS phone arrived here, but it's driver is not available for a while yet so I cannot begin using it with the J720 (an IBM THINKPAD 600 will suffice temporarily). Once the Sierra PCS phone's driver is released for CE, I will be able to switch to a smaller carry case as the cable will no longer be required. The only other thing I use the 720 for that may not be possible on the 200LX is taking brief notes, for which I use the styus and "inkwriter" which is a pen driven graphic input program (no optical character recognition, just lets you draw lines into an image area.) This is sometimes preferable to using the keyboard, as the "70%" keyboard size of the 720 is too small for comfortable typing (I am a very fast typist otherwise.) I did buy the HP optional external keyboard for the 720 which is a "90%" and acceptable size, but I haven't had time to integrate it yet. I suspect the 200LX will remain desirable for some time to come; those of us in Omnibook (300/425/430) land have struggled for years with HP's policy of abandoning good products - probably the 200LX is evolving into the same post-production afterlife? In any event I hope you have a chance to try the 720 to see for yourself, and good luck with your 200LX endeavours, Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com PS - the Sierra Wireless PCS phone is not offered to support DOS so I'm afraid it's not an option for the 200LX. >David, > >Thank you for your detailled review of the Jornada 720 on PocketDOS, Modem >and Batteries functionnalities. You are looking at the move to the Jornada >720 from a different angle i.e. the J720 is smaller compared to the >Omnibook >but larger compared to the HP200LX. > >As you say, the J720 is still plagued by the CE operating system and >pocketDOS may not be a perfect replacement for it (UART ports, disk drives, >etc...). Apparently the emulator speed is comparable to a 80386 while the >HP200lx only has a 80186 processor. > >My last concern is about the form factor, can you conveniently carry it in >your pocket where-ever you go ? > >Regards, > > \/ > /ves > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 08:30:39 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: MSN email In-Reply-To: <200102160517.AAA20584@spdmraab.compuserve.com> from "Colin Cohen" at Feb 16, 2001 12:17:27 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have been trying to access my MSN POP email from WWWLX on the > 200LX without succcess. I can do it from Outlook and Outlook > express, but I log on through MSN as my ISP to do that. On the > 200LX I use classic Compuserve. Warning - this story is over a year old, things may have changed. My father-in-law signed up with MSN as his ISP. He called me one night, and asked if I could come change his e-mail program. He was not used to Outlook, and wanted me to make his old one work. I tried everything I knew, and could not get it to log onto the POP3 server. I gave up, and started researching the problem by reading the newsgroups. Turns out that MS was using a special, oh yeah - it was also proprietary, POP3 password mechanism that prevented all other standard e-mail client programs from accessing their system. You had to use Outlook. As I warned, this may have changed since my experience. It certainly turned me off to MSN at the time. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:24:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "John J Vanderstel" To: Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 10:59 PM Subject: Re: DOS PDF Reader > >I went to download acrodos.exe and it was no longer available. Did > anyone >download it before it disappeared? Could you email it to me? > > I got it and still have it, but it's over 2 megs in size. Much too large > to email as an attachment. In case no one has pointed it out, the DOS pdf reader will not read files designed for the newer versions of the reader for Windows, which is just about every pdf file on the net, so don't bother yourself trying to find it. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:32:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Longden Loo" To: Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:59 PM Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive > > When I have time, I planned to try lithium AA's in the LX to see >if that > > improves the card's usability at all > > Why would Lithiums have more power than an adapter? I used my > 1GB on an adapter and it was marginal. Can't imagine the > batteries would be better. > >> If I know Lithiums at all, they will give you a false sense of security, because of how long they hold a high voltage, followed by a very steep decline. In other words, you'll say "it's working! it's working!! it's . . . pfffffffsssssssssssss-----........... (total silence, followed by a pair of Lithiums out the window) :o) Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:05:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: A Meshar Comments: cc: barry@FBTC.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > Anyway. Ken took Barry's message which contains a quote of > Loic's post, and Ken carved it up to leave the part he wanted > to respond to - namely the part about the 1-day happiness. And > voila! He just posted it. I would point out that when this happens I am posting them as I receive them...if something is being getting confused in the process then I would point out that the messages come through to me that way. If I'm going to be slammed for this then people need to be crystal clear as to what they are sending through the pipleline as their own and what they sending through as quotes. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:13:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I got the Microdrive for purposes other than > using in the Palmtop, so it is not bad news > from my point of view. I need something simpler than a zip drive to transfer things between my Thinkpad and my desktop. It just occurred to me that the microdrive might be the answer. I guess there isn't much doubt about it working on the Thinkpad. However I also have an older Dos laptop with pcmcia that works fine with flash cards. Does anybody know if the microdrive would work with that? Would drivers be a problem or does it just act like a flash card? On the desktop end I have the Sandisk Imagemate compact flash reader. Does anyone know if the microdrive would work with that? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:33:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << > The new 1gb/512mb/340mb and models use less juice than their 340mb/170mb > predecessors, tho as you pointed out, this is still only marginal at best I just bought a 3400MB one for my Omnibook on ebay, it will arrive soon, I hope. How will I know if it is a newer or older model? >> The IBM website I posted on the previous note mentions the respective IBM partnumbers. I believe all the new ones begin with "DSCM". Mine is DSCM-1100. Check the website to be sure (I'm not where I can do that easily myself). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:41:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , david feldman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: david feldman Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I've used the microdrive (1G) version quite successfully for just that - when I received my IBM Thinkpad 600 (used) the first thing I wanted to do was back it up in prep for a larger hard drive; I put the microdrive into a PCMCIA II/CFII adapter, plugged same & software into the Thinkpad, did the back-up, took the thing over to my desktop machine, plugged it into a ZIO CFII adapter for USB, unloaded all of the files, and it worked just great. I've actually since configured all of the machines to just use the ZIO adapter because it's so compact (no pigtail cable, just plug body of the adapter into the machine, load the software, and proceed...) I've dropped the microdrive several times by accident (onto carpeted surface) - it's survived that w/o failure. I'm looking forward to a larger version of the microdrive because it is just so handy for hauling data around. I'm certain microdrive would work with the SANDISK reader altho I've not tried it personally. The only CF gear I've had any trouble with is the LEXAR "USB ENABLED" CF card & reader (CF type I, 32MB) - it is somewhat proprietary (compared to the SANDISK product line) and I would not buy one again. Dave wb0gaz@hotmail.com > > I got the Microdrive for purposes other than > > using in the Palmtop, so it is not bad news > > from my point of view. > >I need something simpler than a zip drive to transfer things >between my Thinkpad and my desktop. It just occurred to me that >the microdrive might be the answer. > >I guess there isn't much doubt about it working on the Thinkpad. >However I also have an older Dos laptop with pcmcia that works >fine with flash cards. Does anybody know if the microdrive >would work with that? Would drivers be a problem or does it >just act like a flash card? > >On the desktop end I have the Sandisk Imagemate compact flash >reader. Does anyone know if the microdrive would work with >that? > >Barry > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:01:12 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ian Butler Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: ian Butler Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! In-Reply-To: <3A8D4FCD.4DF2E6CC@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > A Meshar wrote: > > > Anyway. Ken took Barry's message which contains a quote of > > Loic's post, and Ken carved it up to leave the part he wanted > > to respond to - namely the part about the 1-day happiness. And > > voila! He just posted it. > > I would point out that when this happens I am posting them as I > receive them...if something is being getting confused in the process > then I would point out that the messages come through to me that way. > If I'm going to be slammed for this then people need to be crystal > clear as to what they are sending through the pipleline as their own > and what they sending through as quotes. Actually, it WAS crystal clear -- this is all just a quoting misunderstanding. Loic said that he'd used his new card for a day and was satisfied. Barry responded to that message, quoting it, and congratulated Loic on a getting an excellent deal. You (Ken London) responded to that message with your "Only one day?" message, and so your message said "Barry wrote:", but you quoted only the segment that Loic had originally written. Because of unfortunately misplaced line breaks in all of the quotes, the quoted text under "Barry wrote:" appeared to have only one layer of >'s in front of it, but a close examination shows at least one line that has two layers of >'s, indicating that it was originally quoted by Barry. It is the responsibility of each poster to make sure that their "wrote:" lines match up to the text they quote, but when the text under that line is double-quoted, it indicates that the person who wrote that text was only quoting it. Only the unfortunate line wrappings in the quoted text prevented it from being clearly double-quoted in this case. A good way I use to avoid this whole problem is, when I see text I want to reply to in a message but it's quoted text that's from an older message, I go back and find the original message and reply to that rather than the message I originally read the text in. That way I don't have to bother about changing the name in the "wrote:" line or editing out double-quote markers or anything like that. It takes a little longer, but it's well worth the effort to avoid the confusion. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:02:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I don't have an open front bay on my desktop > for a card reader. So I'm looking at an external > reader. Any comments, warnings, etc? running > WinNT 4.0 now will be switching completely to > windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. I've been using a Sandisk Imagemate compact flash reader for about 2 years. The one I have now is usb. On my old computer I had a parallel port one. They both work great for both the palmtop and my camera. The limitatation of these is they only read compact flash cards. I do have one old 10 meg type II card but I use it on an old palmtop by the computer for phone numbers and passwords and it doesnt change that much and I only back it up now and then. It was simple to install and worked perfectly the first time. The old parallel one was fairly simple and it worked after a couple of tries at getting the drivers right. Now I back up my palmtop by zipping the entire C: into a file on A: and plugging the card into the Imagemate and using pkzip to make a zip of the entire card. The entire process takes about 2 minutes. The imagemate is always on windows explorer as a removable drive, kind of like a cd. But, like a cd it gives you an error if there's no card in it. Plug in the card and you're good to go. The one problem I had was that if I deleted anything windows would create a recycle bin on the card and keep the deletions in it, which I didn't want. But I found, in the control panel where to tell it not to use a recycle bin on that drive and it's fine now. I reccomend it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:41:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I bet you did not know that. I bet you will ignore > this point as several other poster here have. I > wonder why? (I hope not! I got one of you > already! ) I've been ignoring this point because it seems irrefutable and ignoring it appears to be the best strategy. Barry Come the revolution we'll kill all the tax lawyers and make new laws flexible enough to conform to my ever changing needs. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:46:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Conversion to txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 16 Feb 2001 10:19:23 -0500 (EST) I Use Malcom Drury's VIEW to decode WORD attachments. It also has the option to print to a ASCII file. See http://mdrury.hypermart.net Cheers...AJKind 11h04m05s ago ... On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Kelley, Timothy P wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get attachments like word > documents or pdfs converted to text and mailed back to you in an email. > So if you receive an email with an attachment you forward the attachment= to > a certain address, it converts it to a text message and sends it back = to > you. > > Thanks, > > Regards, > > Timothy P. Kelley > GIS eSolutions > 713-432-2036 > Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce > o__ > _.>/)_ > (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:48:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Even M$ released Word for DOS. If I remember right, that's not quite what they intended, although it seems to have worked out that way. They made a Y2K patched version available for download and specifically said it was for owners of that version (5.5?). I think you had to even register and say you were a legal owner before you could download it. But they appearently didn't make any checks and a lot of real degenerate types were perfectly happy to lie about it. I know I was. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:52:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: cc:Mail "Manual Dial" Issue/Fix? In-Reply-To: <0G8U0081INR3Y8@pmismtp01.wcomnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I have not been able to get the "Manual Dial" option to work in > cc:Mail, even though the ATDT dialing has been fine. > > The symptom is (if I time it right) the modem will appear to attempt > to lock, but will eventually give a dialing error message. > > I am going to need to manual dial, as I plan to use it international > and use calling cards. > > I was hoping that someone on list had done battle with this > before and had "figured it out". > > Any pointers for manual dial? I have looked at the > D:dat/hayes.mdm file and there looks to be hope of creating an > alternative .mdm file, but I have not tried anything yet. I believe I went through this about 5 years ago in trying to get ccMail working with Palmtop.com and my XJ3144 modem, with the same kind of symptoms. You're on the right track ... I eventually fixed the problem by creating a special .mdm file for the modem. I don't have my LX on me at the moment (gasp), but remind me in a day or so and maybe I can email you the file (or post it if it was something short). OTOH, my problem didn't involve manual dialling, so it may be on a different issue altogether, but I remember the apparent lockup/stalls followed by a dialling error msg. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:52:47 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: IBM Microdrive In-Reply-To: <005801c09833$5609a2c0$50fc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I need something simpler than a zip drive to transfer things > between my Thinkpad and my desktop. It just occurred to me that > the microdrive might be the answer. > > I guess there isn't much doubt about it working on the Thinkpad. > However I also have an older Dos laptop with pcmcia that works > fine with flash cards. Does anybody know if the microdrive > would work with that? Would drivers be a problem or does it > just act like a flash card? Barry, I use the 1gb Microdrive in my Omnibook 530 which is a 486SX notebook (definitely an older DOS laptop) and in my Omnibook 430 as well (486SLC, even older). Both computers load Card and Socket Services during bootup and the Microdrive was recognized by both computers (in DOS 6.2 and Win 3.1) with no added work. In other words, yes, it acted like a flash card. > On the desktop end I have the Sandisk Imagemate compact flash > reader. Does anyone know if the microdrive would work with > that? You have to check if your Imagemate works with CF II which is thicker than normal CF I cards (the one we all usually see). It may be that the slot in the Imagemate is too thin. On the desktop end, the MD was recognized by my Win95 system correctly with no additional drivers needed, but then my desktop was a notebook to begin with. I like small computers . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:59:05 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Bad Quoting In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, ian Butler wrote: > Actually, it WAS crystal clear -- this is all just a quoting > misunderstanding. Loic said that he'd used his new card for a day and was > satisfied. Barry responded to that message, quoting it, and congratulated > Loic on a getting an excellent deal. I've noticed Barry does not typically indicate who wrote text he quotes--this probably contributed to the problem. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:09:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian Butler" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > > I would point out that when this happens I am posting them as I > > receive them...if something is being getting confused in the process > > then I would point out that the messages come through to me that way. > > Actually, it WAS crystal clear -- this is all just a quoting > misunderstanding. > It is > the responsibility of each poster to make sure that their "wrote:" > lines match up to the text they quote, but when the text under that line > is double-quoted, it indicates that the person who wrote that text was > only quoting it. > A good way I use to avoid this whole problem is, when I see text I want to (snipped good suggestions). Due to the nature of the beast, people are not going to go the trouble of finding the original message. The best solution I think is leaving the header of the message one is replying to in place, as in the top of this message. In trying to save a few bytes, people unwittingly create confusion. Of course, it all depends on how your email client behaves (I suspect Outlook Express of causing some of these problems). I guess nobody is going to do anything about this unless another flame war gets started. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:39:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would point out that some e-mail programs handle replys differently..... I also would point out I don't want to hear any more complaints on this subject until after I start receiving quotes from others that are crystal clear as to who said what. I'm getting blamed because I'm getting quotes that are as clear as mud and I'm getting sick of it. If I'm miss quoting people it is because I'm receiving messages that not clear as to who said what. I would also mention that what ever e-mail program I use (have tried many), they handle quotes inconsistently. I trust that this will be the last message on the subject!!!!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:45:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! Comments: To: ian Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Someone said.... > quoted text under "Barry wrote:" appeared to have only one layer of >'s in > front of it, but a close examination shows at least one line that has two > layers of >'s, indicating that it was originally quoted by Barry. I would point out that many e-mail programs are inconsistent on this point. Sometime e-mail programs will insert > before quoted text, sometimes they will add no > before the quoted text. Some people compound this by inserting 40 levels of quotes in a message and make it impossible to tell who said what. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:53:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: HELP!! Where's my RAM? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > I had to open up my 2X speed 8 meg 200LX to straighten the PCMCIA pins, > and when I powered up, the screen was offset and I only had the original > 1 meg available. The extra RAM is in an extra slot attached to the motherboard. If this = memory board get bumped lose from its socket then you would not see it. You can try opening the palmtop back up and gently making sure the extra RAM = board is snug in it's slot. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 13:11:42 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Conversion to txt In-Reply-To: from "Al Kind" at Feb 16, 2001 12:46:28 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I Use Malcom Drury's VIEW to decode WORD attachments. It also has the > option to print to a ASCII file. > > See http://mdrury.hypermart.net I will second this. His program continues to amaze me. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:11:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > > They have to. It is their legal duty! If they do not, they can > > go to jail, I kid you not. > > Can you clarify that? If you are an officer of a company and do not do your best to perform the legal duties you have you are liable for civil damages and criminal acts. > > Clearly. And there is another reason. Their old software > > serves them too to produce tax shelters and other economic > > benefits - to support their bottom line, just as you said > > above! > > You've said that before, can you give us more details? I gave them several times: The asset contrinues to depreciate while bringing no revenues. Net result, lower taxable income. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:11:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > And what exactly enables companies to declare old software as deprecating > assets? And what is the depreciation rate? And why does it matter whether or not > they support their licensed users? The number of users should be shrinking, > right? I don't want to get into accounting and the legal side of all this, it is not my strength nor expertise. Talk to an expert accountant and an expert lawyer about this. > Hmm, so a licensed user can still use old software but that software is deemed > "inactive"??? It makes no difference what the end user does. He can dance on the software if he wants to. What matters is what the owner of the asset does. > Ok, so not obsolete, but how about making it freeware? Then they lose the asset. > You keep mentioning smal companies. Could you give us a real-life example? Why? Do you think that smaller companies experience a lesser impact? I do not see that names are germaine to the issue. Explain how. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:11:44 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Tony Kan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tony Kan wrote: > I don't know about American law but in New Zealand, Directors have a > fiduciary duty to shareholders and if this is breached then yes, you really > do end up in Jail, although this is rare because there is a burden of proof. Same in the USA. Rarity is also true here, but it happened. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:11:40 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: MSN email Comments: To: ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Colin, A customer wrote a looong time ago about success using MSN with WWW/LX. I never could confirm it, but put it on the Tips and Trick page of D&A Website anyway. it is #33 at http://www.dasoft.com click on Tips&Trick. Basically it is saying that the login must be constructed like so: MSN/loginid Where you prefix "MSN/" to your login. If this works, let me know please... Hope this helps. Avi M. ÝD&A¨ http://www.dasoft.com Colin Cohen wrote: > I have been trying to access my MSN POP email from WWWLX on the > 200LX without succcess. I can do it from Outlook and Outlook > express, but I log on through MSN as my ISP to do that. On the > 200LX I use classic Compuserve. > > Any BTDT experiences? > > Colin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 14:54:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kelly McMillin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kelly McMillin Subject: Flash Card on HP320LX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a 32MB Flash Card on my HP 320 LX running Windows CE 1.0. I can't = seem to get any clue as to how much space is available on this folder that = was automatically created when I booted up with the flash card. I have = been able to place stuff in this folder. My memory information says 4MB = internal as it always has. =20 I know that it is working, but I sure would like to be able to see how = much space was available. Is there a utility I can get that will do this and does CE 2.0 handle this = sort of thing any better? Thanks Kelly McMillin Sr. Programmer/Analyst UNT Health Science Center at Fort Worth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 12:33:05 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you are an officer of a company and do not do your best to > perform the legal duties you have you are liable for civil > damages and criminal acts. A bit general. Doesn't tell us anything about the issue at hand. You could say the same about any citizen living in a society. > I gave them several times: The asset contrinues to depreciate > while bringing no revenues. Net result, lower taxable income. That's good. So if I understand correctly, you could not have an asset depreciate and at the same time sell license at 1 cent each? I mean, we're selling licenses here, not the software itself, right? > I don't want to get into accounting and the legal side of all > this, it is not my strength nor expertise. Talk to an expert > accountant and an expert lawyer about this. Hmm, ok. > It makes no difference what the end user does. He can dance on > the software if he wants to. What matters is what the owner of > the asset does. What does "inactive" mean? Is this a legal term? Does it mean not selling the software? Normally, for tax purposes, assets that are depreciating can still be actively used. I don't see how selling or not selling licenses changes that. The asset (as intellectual property) does not go away. > > Ok, so not obsolete, but how about making it freeware? > > Then they lose the asset. Again, freeware does not mean that the intellectal property goes away, it simply means that the licenses are given away. Alternatively, the software (as intellectual property) could be donated to a non-profit software archive, for example, in which case there will be a tax write-off. > > You keep mentioning smal companies. Could you give us a real-life example? > Why? Do you think that smaller companies experience a lesser > impact? I do not see that names are germaine to the issue. > Explain how. It's not about names, Avi, it's about you keeping on saying that you know something we don't, and always beating around the bush without ever being clear about exactly what you are thinking. I for one would like to hear the details of what you're talking about, so we can undestand how you've seen abandonware *not* being a good idea. Just replace the company name by "X" and the software by "Y" if that makes you feel better. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 15:04:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: KenLondon , A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "KenLondon" To: "A Meshar" Cc: ; Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! > A Meshar wrote: > > > Anyway. Ken took Barry's message which contains a quote of > > Loic's post, and Ken carved it up to leave the part he wanted > > to respond to - namely the part about the 1-day happiness. And > > voila! He just posted it. > > I would point out that when this happens I am posting them as I > receive them...if something is being getting confused in the > process then I would point out that the messages come through to me > that way. If I'm going to be slammed for this then people need to be > crystal clear as to what they are sending through the pipleline as their own > > and what they sending through as quotes. I sent you a copy of the post you quoted and I think it was pretty clear that you were careless in your cutting and attribution. Now, if you want to call it a mistake on your part, I'll accept that. I've made such mistakes, too. I probably will again. I don't really think that particular post or your error in quoting did any harm. But it might have in other circumstances. When you quote me you're taking my reputation in your hands and I have the right to expect you to do that with care. You have the right to the same expectation when I quote you. I'm sure you already know that. Why are you making me say it? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:15:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Flash Card on HP320LX Comments: To: Kelly McMillin Hi, Maybe nobody has clued you in yet but this mailing list more for the 200lx, 100lx and 95 lx computers. These are very different from the 300lx+ windows CE machines. Don't take this as a "shoo, go away" type statement but I just thought you could probably find a better place to ask that question and get some good answers. I do own a Phillips Nino (palm format) that runs CE 2.0 and know a little bit about that problem. There are a whole bunch of nice share/freeware utilities that help overcome the built-in shortcomings of windows CE. I've found that site I list below a good place to find CE software, although I have to warn you, your options are severly limited with CE 1.0 http://www.tucows.com Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelly McMillin" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:54 PM Subject: Flash Card on HP320LX I have a 32MB Flash Card on my HP 320 LX running Windows CE 1.0. I can't seem to get any clue as to how much space is available on this folder that was automatically created when I booted up with the flash card. I have been able to place stuff in this folder. My memory information says 4MB internal as it always has. I know that it is working, but I sure would like to be able to see how much space was available. Is there a utility I can get that will do this and does CE 2.0 handle this sort of thing any better? Thanks Kelly McMillin Sr. Programmer/Analyst UNT Health Science Center at Fort Worth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Flash Card on HP320LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:38:16 -0500 (EST) WinCE messages are OK here, just please preface the subject with "wince:" so users who wish to can filter them out. Cheers...AJKind 22m52s ago ... On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, I'm pretty sure :-) Ed Padin wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe nobody has clued you in yet but this mailing list more for the = 200lx, > 100lx and 95 lx computers. These are very different from the 300lx+ = windows > CE machines. Don't take this as a "shoo, go away" type statement but I = just > thought you could probably find a better place to ask that question and = get > some good answers... -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:47:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit One final point about old software....I was looking at some old licensing agreements and noticed that some of them were drawn up to expire prior to y2k....which birngs up the question if you own a copy of these software packages can it legally be used? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:53:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: Barry Comments: cc: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Now, if you want to call it a mistake on your part, I'll accept > that. I've made such mistakes, too. I probably will again. I would point out that I have been misquoted many times on this list and have not complained.....if I'm going to get complaints about this then I have to raise complaints about the many times I've been misquoted prior to these threads. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:37:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Things seem to bet getting a bit snippy (re: abandonware and quoting) It seems that everybody's getting a little snippy on the list. In the immortal words of Rodney King: "Can't we all just get along?" Maybe the Winter months in the Northern hemisphere tend to.. well, just piss people off. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:30:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: KenLondon Comments: cc: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "KenLondon" To: "Barry" Cc: "A Meshar" ; Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! > Barry wrote: > > > Now, if you want to call it a mistake on your part, I'll accept > > that. I've made such mistakes, too. I probably will again. > > I would point out that I have been misquoted many times on this > list and have not complained.....if I'm going to get complaints about > this then I have to raise complaints about the many times I've been > misquoted prior to these threads. Makes sense to me. But I don't think I complained as much as I asked you to be more careful. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:07:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: "Bel, Michel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bel, Michel wrote: Michel Bel explained an interesting angle about using old software to donate to an organization that needs it and obtaining the tax benefit from a deduction. Very interesting point. I agree with your observation that old software, even if not manufactured or sold any longer, is still not valueless. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:07:29 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > > I bet you did not know that. I bet you will ignore > > this point as several other poster here have. I > > wonder why? (I hope not! I got one of you > > already! ) > > I've been ignoring this point because it seems irrefutable and > ignoring it appears to be the best strategy. ROFL!!! I knew I liked for a reason! > Come the revolution we'll kill all the tax lawyers and make new > laws flexible enough to conform to my ever changing needs. Just make it simpler: Starve them to death by making the tax law contain basically one sentence: Gross income, - any income - multiply by 8% (or some such) and send to the government. It will take a 25 people agency to collect all the revenue for the USA. Most will be taken at the source, the rest by a simple one page declaration. Tax lawyers? They'll starve or do something worthwhile like clean fast food grills. :-¨ Another way: VAT - value added tax, no income tax. The more you consume, the more you pay. Oh, add a sentence for my social conscience: Anyone with income under x, multiply by 0% - and send nothing. I can laready see pigs sqadrons in flight! :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:07:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Theodore Heise wrote: > On Fri, 16 Feb 2001, ian Butler wrote: > > > Actually, it WAS crystal clear -- this is all just a quoting > > misunderstanding. Loic said that he'd used his new card for a day and was > > satisfied. Barry responded to that message, quoting it, and congratulated > > Loic on a getting an excellent deal. > > I've noticed Barry does not typically indicate who wrote text he > quotes--this probably contributed to the problem. In this case he quoted Loic's ENTIRE message, including headers. Ken replied to Barry's message starting with Barry Wrote: Then removed all but the part which Loic said, and responded to that. This leaves the impression that Barry said something, when in truth it was Loic. Ken has used a similar procedure with messages I either posted, leading to the impression I said something which I only quoted. He also did the reverse, posted a reply to someone who quoted me, leaving just the quoted part and the impression that the other person said the words which really were mine. This is simply confusing and can be easily averted with a bit more careful quoting. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:10:29 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Looking for the "Smartkey" macro program Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have searched the Palmtop files and internet for the Smartkey macro program without success. Could someone send it to me please? TIA, Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:19:42 -0500 Reply-To: cliffcrittenden@eudoramail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Cliff Crittenden Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail (http://www.eudoramail.com:80) Subject: Q about using the double slot with a Zip drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody had success using a double slot to move data from a pc memory card to a zip drive via a Trans Digital parallel card? TIA, Cliff Crittenden Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:57:51 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: Bad Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken London wrote: > I would point out that some e-mail programs handle replys > differently..... I have to admit I only know and use one email program: POST/LX It is completely transparent concerning quoting. I can see the quoting as I reply. I can decide if I want to answer after the quote (preferred) or in front of it. I can reduce the quote by deleting lines. As I finish the email, I see it just the same way as it will appear on this list. I cannot think of any other way to write an email program. But from what I read here, quoting with desktop email programs is an adventure. The quoting seems to be hidden as you reply. You don't seem to be able to alter the appearance of a quote? Is it really that bad under windows? Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 19:13:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Meshar" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 6:07 PM Subject: Re: More about abandonware > > Oh, add a sentence for my social conscience: Anyone with > income under x, multiply by 0% - and send nothing. Most people with incomes less than x aren't capable of multiplying by 0. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:21:53 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon wrote: > I would point out that I have been misquoted many times on this > list and have not complained.....if I'm going to get complaints about > this then I have to raise complaints about the many times I've been > misquoted prior to these threads. Please go ahead and complain. The point is that this still does not take away your responsibility to quote correctly. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:21:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Conversion to txt Comments: To: loic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Loic, Thanks for the reference on PDF conversion to text. The URL http://access.adobe.com/access_email.html which you provided has good info and references to the TRACE site which does the opposite - converting text to PDF. I tested the following: 31K PDF which is the Northeastern timetable for Amtrack. I did not have much hope for the file because it is printed with many symbols etc. I wanted to see the turnaround time in general. Sent a single email with a MIME attachment to both pdf2txt@adobe.com pdf2html@adobe.com It came back within a minute or so. As expected, the text is not terribly usable, neither is the HTML version, But the conversion is precise and what I expected it to be. Oh, what came back in terms of size: 31K was the PDF, the resulting text file was 18757 and the HTML file was 22647. next is to try the 1110K "Introduction to Cryptography" Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:21:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > It's not about names, Avi, it's about you keeping on saying that you know > something we don't, and always beating around the bush without ever being clear > about exactly what you are thinking. Pardon me. It is not about that at all. It started with a discussion on stealing or not someone's software asset. Some people said here that old software is valueless and presumably that condones taking them without permission. As a point of refutation I brought up the issue that in some cases such inactive software sontinues to be an asset that works for the owner in a specific way (example the depreciation - probably 100 other different ways too!) and that just because it is not advertised and sold, does not make it abandoned. > I for one would like to hear the details of what you're > talking about, so we can undestand how you've seen abandonware > *not* being a good idea. I say over and over again that what you think is abandonware may not be. What I say over and over again is that just because you do not see any activity around some piece of software, it is not automatically abandoned, and a throaway, but can still be a benefit-producing asset to its owner. (I also gave examples which you now want to nitpick to death and I have no expertise for this - aks your lawyer, please!) If you really want to hear what I have to say, then start by reading it. Secondly, don't put words and ideas in my mouth. You imply this: "...you've seen abandonware *not* being a good idea." This was not a discussion nor an assertion. I have no idea what exactly abandonware means to assert that it is a good idea or not. If abandoneware is defined like most people do, or as the petition seems to define it, then it is an uninformed and unintelligent description. There is nothing to say about it other than "it needs fixing". I resent that you move this into a discussion about what I think. It is not about it. If this community and group wants to do something intelligent about getting a legitimate hold of old software, then this community as a whole needs to come up with a thoughtful way to approach the owners. Signing the petition is plain incoherent. If the community wants to do something, then start by defining what your objectives are. What are you looking for, in terms of titles, companies, support, pricing (if any). Then put together a list of what it is that the community is willing to do for the owners of the asset - not necessarily in terms of paying them, E.g. support some website that will provide ongoing support for such titles to assure the vendor they will not be saddled with the job. If there is really an interest, then make a concerted effort to create a decent position statement of what we want to accomplish and what we ask for. Then decide how to go to a vendor and discuss it. All this has to be done by hundreds of people - at least they have to agree to it. We have hundreds here, even though most are quiet. Picking on me and pinning me to the mat is just really not interesting and unproductive. So if you really want to hear then read this, and maybe you can take the same energy you have in trying to pin me down to reveal information I did not disclose earlier for a reason, and use it in a productive way. I think you have the wisdom and ability to do just that! BTW, I'll gladly help, and talk and participate - I am a user of oldies like agenda, Word, WP 5.1+, (a recent QEMM - thanks Al!) and more. I happen to also be a vendor here. I started as a geek, and I am still a geek. Good luck. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:22:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: Things seem to bet getting a bit snippy (re: abandonware and,quoting) Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ed Padin wrote: > It seems that everybody's getting a little snippy on the list. In the > immortal words of Rodney King: "Can't we all just get along?" So far it is mostly civilized. I am sure Ken will eventually see that he is reallt responsible for correct quotig, it is not a big point to grasp :> ... And abandonware - well as long as it is not a discussion about my personal character I think it is instructive and perhaps even useful. I am actually beginning to see some light in this dark tunnel! I am still in prayer mode that it is not a locomotive barrelling down on me, but so far it does not sound like it at all... As to weather, it is lovely in SoCal - lots of sunshine most days ... Keep reminding us from time to time - I think it is helpful. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 17:54:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Picking on me and pinning me to the mat is just really not > interesting and unproductive. So if you really want to hear > then read this, and maybe you can take the same energy you > have in trying to pin me down to reveal information I did not > disclose earlier for a reason, and use it in a productive way. > I think you have the wisdom and ability to do just that! BTW, > I'll gladly help, and talk and participate - I am a user of > oldies like agenda, Word, WP 5.1+, (a recent QEMM - thanks > Al!) and more. I happen to also be a vendor here. I started as > a geek, and I am still a geek. Aren't we getting a wee bit excited here? Pin you down? Come on! No one if after your skin. I was merely pointing out that I think many of the references you make are fuzzy (in my mind anyway) and wanted more details -- which you obviously have in many case but don't want to disclose for a reason. It's your choice to answer or not, but don't squeak if people ask you point blank to be more precise. Since you happen to be a vendor, perhaps you can explain -- as a vendor -- what your situation is. Then again perhaps not. It's your choice, no big deal. In any case, asking question (even point blank ones) is the first step towards understanding something. Talking of questions, I still don't understand what you mean by "inactive". What makes a software "inactive", and how does it relate to selling licenses? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:01:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken Londo, please correct! Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A Meshar wrote: > KenLondon wrote: > > I would point out that I have been misquoted many times on this > > list and have not complained.....if I'm going to get complaints about > > this then I have to raise complaints about the many times I've been > > misquoted prior to these threads. > > Please go ahead and complain. The point is that this still > does not take away your responsibility to quote correctly. Hey if people are going to complain being quoted wrong then they better not be guilty of the same thing. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I've been misquoted dozens of times but I didn't make a stink about it like others on this list. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:05:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Things seem to bet getting a bit snippy (re: abandonwareand,quoting) Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Someone wrote: > So far it is mostly civilized. I am sure Ken will eventually > see that he is reallt responsible for correct quotig, it is > not a big point to grasp :> ... > See my previous posts about my posts being quoted wrong. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:28:48 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Conversion to txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And in case forgotten, the Adobe Access module adds to the file menu an option to export document to text from the reader itself. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:13:51 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > From: "A Meshar" > > Oh, add a sentence for my social conscience: Anyone with > > income under x, multiply by 0% - and send nothing. > > Most people with incomes less than x aren't capable of > multiplying by 0. Yeah, well I am not sure about the generalization, but there is some correlation there... Maybe this: People with incomes less than X do not have to multiply and need not send anything. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 22:13:55 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fryday wrote: > Aren't we getting a wee bit excited here? After taking a considerable amount of time and thought to write all the messages and think about the "roadmap" for a old software" project, I am really disappointed that all you could come up with is poking fun at my excitement. Maybe Ed was right after all about the "Testinessmeter" registering warmer and warmer ... Of course I am excited, more than a wee bit. It is not a secret that this topic fills my professional life (software) and it is my main hobby. Of course you also noticed that we were engaged in a difficult discussion, and it was finally beginning to move into higher forms of discourse, or so I thought. That excited me as well! I was seeing light in the tunnel. It saddens me that you responded as you did. I was hoping for some proactive energy. > In any case, asking question (even point blank ones) is the first step towards > understanding something. Maybe you miss something. Before you can ask specific questions, as your were, you need to define for yourself what is the big picture - where are you going with this - what are your goals. Otherwise your efforts are wasted. What you asked about are minor and extremely narrowly focused questions. Depending on the "Big picture" these questions may never come up again. I don't really feel it is necessary to spend a lot of time and energy on them at this time. For this "old software" project I provided you (and whoever is interested) with a roadmap. It probably can stand more detail, and more granularity, but this is a starting point. Richard asked me in private email if I'd be interested in being involved. The anser is yes, and I put my first contribution in. Making fun of my excitement is not productive and not germaine to the topic. > Talking of questions, I still don't understand what you mean by "inactive". What > makes a software "inactive", and how does it relate to selling licenses? There are likely other issues that you do not understand in this topic, and I am sure I have many questions I do not understand. I am equally sure that many questions will come up if we - as a group - decide to go forward and deal with this project. At this point, it seems to me we have hashed and ground all the grist available to a fine, fine powder. I really have nothing to say that is new, so unless there are some new angles, new insights, new initiative, I see no sense in posting any more in this thread. I am fresh out of something to say - pretty incredible, huh? Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:53:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Conversion to txt Comments: To: "Kelley, Timothy P" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable VIEW can be found at SUPER. It can view and convert MSWORD documents to plain text. Kelley, Timothy P wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to get attachments like word > documents or pdfs converted to text and mailed back to you in an email. > So if you receive an email with an attachment you forward the attachment= to > a certain address, it converts it to a text message and sends it back = to > you. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:57:34 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: IKEA Alkaline batteries Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi friends, > I discovered some new alkaline batteries that are sold by the IKEA furniture > stores. It seems that these batteries show up as having 3.08 volts when I > first install them. Every other alkaline battery I've ever tried shows up as > 3.0 volts exactly. They're produced by Varta in germany and are all yellow > in color. They were dirt cheap,too. I think I paid $2 for a ten pack. I use these batteries, too, but only as spare batteries. Here in Germany the IKEA batteries are green/grey and I don't know if they are also made by Varta. But it is likely. Due to the low price they are ideal as spare batteries (and probably also as main ones, I din't have the impression that they last less long than other (cheap) batteries.) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:57:36 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Fluff: Re: IBM Microdrive Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Longden, > If that fails, I'll try some batteries kissed by virgins and blessed with > holy water . I think batteries blessed with holy water won't work very well any more - or is holy water another kind of water than H2O? ;-) GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:15:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE In-Reply-To: <14TvgO-0OCZt2C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Is it really that bad under windows? No I am using outlook and I can do what I want with the quoted material and reply above or below the quote ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 10:14:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Colin Cohen Subject: Re: MSN email Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Avi, Many thanks for your response. I could not get that mod to work. BTW I have tried it with and without all the combinations of APOP and RPA and each time I get the same response: LOGIN Refused or the POSTLX message that seems to say that I reached the POP server but the login bounced during authentication. I do not have this problem with Outlook (natch) and I have also not been able to get either compuserve or MSN as in xxxx@email.msn.com through my yahoo account. Any thoughts. Colin > > Colin, > > A customer wrote a looong time ago about success using MSN > with WWW/LX. I never could confirm it, but put it on the Tips > and Trick page of D&A Website anyway. it is #33 at > http://www.dasoft.com click on Tips&Trick. Basically it is > saying that the login must be constructed like so: > > MSN/loginid > > Where you prefix "MSN/" to your login. > > If this works, let me know please... Hope this helps. > > Avi M. ÝD&A¨ > http://www.dasoft.com > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 08:19:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. They are in excellent Condition! One (1) $25 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Two (2) $50.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. (1) Western Digital Hardrive 2 1/2 inch drive 2.4 gig for $25.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you can send payment to my address at: Scott Moore 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street Beaverton, Or 97006 Notes: I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let you know that your disks are on the way. I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to test a customer's new prototype product at work. If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not buy insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! The response over the last few months has been just great! and the people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! Scott ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:52:12 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Xword Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="42263348" This is a multipart message in MIME format --42263348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just started using Xword 2.0, the crossword game program for= the LX. If any of you have puzzles that work with this program I'd= sure appreciate it if you'd send them along to me at bob@palmtop.com Also, is there a particular website repository for puzzles that= work with this program? Thank You. Bob -- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 02/17/2001 --42263348 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable I just started using Xword= 2.0, the crossword game program for the LX. If any of you have puzzles that= work with this program I'd sure appreciate it if you'd send them along to me= at
bob@palmtop.com

Also, is there a particular= website repository for puzzles that work with this program?

Thank You.
Bob

-- Bob Christopher, rbc@ezlink.com on 02/17/2001
--42263348-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 11:04:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beware: These prices are good but list members have been burned and this guy does not give refunds for any reason. Also, where is the FLUFF or FS subject heading? ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. > > I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent condition. > > > (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. > > They are in excellent Condition! > One (1) $25 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > Two (2) $50.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > > I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 for > shipping and packaging. > > (1) Western Digital Hardrive 2 1/2 inch drive 2.4 gig for $25.00 > plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! and you > > can send payment to my address at: > > > Scott Moore > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street > Beaverton, Or 97006 > > Notes: > > I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment and let > you know that your disks are on the way. > > I always send out disks and other products the very next day unless I > receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on Monday. > > I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them in a > thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. > > All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used to > test a customer's new prototype product at work. > > If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me know > and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. > > If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you do not > buy > insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to postal > errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks please! > > The response over the last few months has been just great! and the > people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! > > Scott > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:12:13 +0100 Reply-To: jbelin@altern.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader In-Reply-To: <3A8BA810.FB13584B@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:57:36 -0800 Patrick west a =E9crit: > Folks, >=20 > I don't have an open front bay on my desktop for a card > reader. So I'm looking at an external reader. Any comments, > warnings, etc?=20 I use the Parallel->PCMCIA Filemate card reader (also known as Microthech's Cameramate). There are two versions : 1 PCMCIA type I->III + 1 CF (note there is only one logical port), and 1 PCMCIA type I->III + 1 Smartmedia. It is fast, and manages well hot swapping. You can find more info at : http://www.amtron.com/reader/dpcm-par.htm but they seem to no longer sold the Parallel version (they mark "call" instead of the price), but I think you can find it somewhere else (search for Filmate or Cameramate). > running WinNT 4.0 now will be switching > completely to windows 2000 Pro in a couple of weeks. It is said to work with Win2000. And, even if it is not said, there is also an MS-Dos driver ! :-) Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:03:54 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: MSN email Colin Cohen writes: > Avi, Many thanks for your response. I could not get that mod to > work. BTW I have tried it with and without all the combinations of > APOP and RPA and each time I get the same response: LOGIN Refused > or the POSTLX message that seems to say that I reached the POP > server but the login bounced during authentication. > > I do not have this problem with Outlook (natch) and I have also > not been able to get either compuserve or MSN as in > xxxx@email.msn.com through my yahoo account. > > Any thoughts. Would it be possible to change the number dialed with Outlook to some computer with a modem that could display the information being sent by Outlook? You could then plug this back in to your LX config. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 09:23:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Scott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Scott Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is not correct, I have been on this group for over 2 years now and I have lot's of satisfied customers and I have given exchanges and refunds in the past when needed so please do not spread negative information about people. There has been one incident with a zip drive in the last (2) years that started an issue on this group and other than that I have always taken care of my customers. Scott Tom Salwasser wrote: > Beware: These prices are good but list members have been burned and > this guy does not give refunds for any reason. > > Also, where is the FLUFF or FS subject heading? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Scott > To: > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:19 AM > Subject: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. > > > > > I have these items for sale and they are all in excellent > condition. > > > > > > (6) 20 Meg PCMCIA Type ATA II flash disks available. > > > > They are in excellent Condition! > > One (1) $25 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > Two (2) $50.00 plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > > > > > I also have (3) Pentium 133MHZ processor for $15.00 plus $5.00 > for > > shipping and packaging. > > > > (1) Western Digital Hardrive 2 1/2 inch drive 2.4 gig for > $25.00 > > plus $5.00 for shipping and packaging. > > > > Payment Terms: I accept Money Orders and Cashier's checks Only! > and you > > > > can send payment to my address at: > > > > > > Scott Moore > > 20455 S.W. Kirkwood Street > > Beaverton, Or 97006 > > > > Notes: > > > > I will email you back the very same day I receive your payment > and let > > you know that your disks are on the way. > > > > I always send out disks and other products the very next day > unless I > > receive your payment on a Saturday and then they will go out on > Monday. > > > > I package all my disks and products in bubble wrap and place them > in a > > thick padded envelope for a very safe delivery. > > > > All these disks are in excellent condition and have only been used > to > > test a customer's new prototype product at work. > > > > If you are interested please feel free to email me back and let me > know > > and I will hold your disk or (disks) for you. > > > > If you want Insurance on your package it is .85 to 2.00. If you > do not > > buy > > insurance then I am not responsible for lost or damages due to > postal > > errors. Orders outside the USA may be more. No Foreign Checks > please! > > > > The response over the last few months has been just great! and > the > > people I have worked with have been just Awesome! Thanks alot! > > > > Scott > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:33:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. I would like to set up a couple of the Fn keys to run batch files when the = topcard is on screen. I guess this is in the manual, but I can't find it at = the moment. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:33:27 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: A batch file that knows what time it is? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time it is being run = and then act accordingly? What I want to do is have the batch file check what time it is. If it is = before 05:00 I want it to assign "06:15" to %1. If the time is between = 05:00 and 07:20, I want %1 to be set to "11:50" and if it's between 07:20 = and 22:05 I want %1 to be 22:30. I'd rather not explain why I want to do this just yet as it's rather = elaborate. I'm just guilding the lily here... :o) PS. With the help of Scancode, I _think_ I've got the LX reliably switching = the shortwave receiver off again too now, but it's a bit early to tell for = sure. It worked today and yesterday. It may or may not work tomorrow... The = problem is that the HfFax software really hogs the interrupts, so Scancode = has trouble getting through with it's keystrokes. Owen -- On a sailboat. In snowy northern Norway on a very slow Saturday evening. http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:34:07 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Barry wrote (>): > Most people with incomes less than x aren't capable of > multiplying by 0. This was probably just meant as a joke, but while I don't want to start = another flame war, I feel I have to take issue with it. Personal income is = related to opportunity, education, geography, health and personal = priorities. In most cases it is NOT related to intelligence! Most people = with low income are no more stupid than the rest of the population! My personal income is less than 50% of a normal Norwegian workers income. = In my case, this is because of my personal priorities. I chose to sail 6 = months in every year rather than slave at a job. Every now and then when = I'm creaming along on a beam reach in a force five in perfect sunshine with = the vindvane steering the boat, I pick up my cell phone and ring one of my = friends who I know is slaving by a computer screen in a stuffy office. It's = nice to remind myself how the other half (or 9999/10000) lives... :o) A really bad day on the boat is better than a good day at work! "It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed = that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much = - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - whilst all the dolphins had ever = done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the = dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - = for precisely the same reasons." - Douglas Adams from "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" Owen (With no wife, no children, no car, no mortgage, very little money and no = prospects. Just an old sailboat, a geriatric dog and an appetite for life.) -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:34:20 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Fluff: Flying pigs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi A Meshar wote: > I can already see pigs sqadrons in flight! :-) "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not = necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to = land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead." - RFC1925, The twelve networking truths PS. The dicussions of abandonware and quoting every day are getting rather = boring... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:10:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: Fluff: Flying pigs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For proof that pigs can fly, just visit http://www.fpqrp.com tnx es 72 - john - n0hj ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 14:17:16 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott. the horror stories from people dealing with you are well documented on this list. I appreciate being warned about vendors whose policies I disagree with so I feel it's my duty to do the same for others. I say again, your prices are great but buyer beware. >Scott wrote: > > That is not correct, I have been on this group for over 2 years now and > I have lot's of satisfied customers and I have given exchanges and > refunds in the past when needed so please do not spread negative > information about people. There has been one incident with a zip drive > in the last (2) years that started an issue on this group and other than > that I have always taken care of my customers. Scott > > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > > Beware: These prices are good but list members have been burned and > > this guy does not give refunds for any reason. > > > > Also, where is the FLUFF or FS subject heading? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 12:31:13 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I would like to set up a couple of the Fn keys to run batch files when the > topcard is on screen. I guess this is in the manual, but I can't find it at the > moment. I think you can do that by creating a Sysem Macro (More / SystemMacros or Ctrl-More) to invoke an AppMgr icon that drives a batch file. There may be other ways using keyboard TSRs, but chaining a macro and AppMgr icon will do it for a generic LX. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 22:10:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Fluff: FS NEW unused HP 700LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have for sale or barter an unused HP 700LX Communicator. It has 2 MB and is the original box with all manuals, extra's, nameplate etc. I have tested it once more to check it's workings, that is all. So, before I go for auction, is there anyone on this list interested in a mint, unused, Euro English 700LX? My asking price is USD / Euro 250, plus all shipping and handling costs, but will consider any reasonable offer ( and prefer selling to list member, just for fun!). I will include additionally a serial cable. No NOKIA included, just the plain 700LX in new condition. Note: I do not know whether this will work with US phones? Can anybody comment? I will also consider exchange with upgraded DS/extra memory 200LX. Offers please via private email, not via this list. Still have, open to a decent bid: - EXP ThinFax144 modem with 4 MB memory, complete with book and of course cable - registered with EXP - JetEye infrared printer port, ESI - 9500A - Upgrade your old 100LX to 200LX?: Battered 1MB 200LX, cracked and broken screen, broken battery cover, big hingecrack, motherboard and keyboard OK ( still use it to copy flashdisk overnight by IR between 200LX's) - make me an offer I can't refuse. - 2 sets of original Connectivity Pack diskettes plus User guide - no cables. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:10:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen H. Morgan" To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Hi > Barry wrote (>): > >> Most people with incomes less than x >> aren't capable of multiplying by 0. > > This was probably just meant as a joke, > but while I don't want to start another > flame war, I feel I have to take issue > with it. Yes it was a joke and no I don't believe there's much truth in it. I just thought it was funny. Enough people believe that that it makes it funny. I read an article about a long term study of people with IQs over 150 that was begun with a bunch of children in (I think) the 40's, and then followed them through their lives. I read this in the late 70's or early 80's. Their average income was below the national average. Another study (both of these articles were in Psycology Today) studied the IQ of people in various fields. They found that politicians and business leaders generally had IQs somewhat above average, but not greatly so. Professionals, doctors and lawyers, had IQ's somewhat higher than business leaders and politians, but not a lot higher. They found that engineers and scientists had, typically, IQs much above average. But, when they took a different view and looked at the fields that those with the very highest IQs were in, they were mostly doing appliance or TV repair, running small businesses of various kinds, and teaching in public school. Many were bus drivers or taxi drivers. A lot of them were policemen. And there were also professionals and businessmen and politicians. But these were only a fairly small percentage. It's still funny. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:18:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Shephard Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Shephard Subject: Re: Fluff: FS NEW unused HP 700LX Comments: To: "Bel, Michel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It will work with the Nokia 2190 1900 Mhz GSM phone in the US. I used one on the Pacific Bell Wireless system years ago. -Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bel, Michel" To: Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: Fluff: FS NEW unused HP 700LX > I have for sale or barter an unused HP 700LX Communicator. It has 2 MB and > is the original box with all manuals, extra's, nameplate etc. I have tested > it once more to check it's workings, that is all. > > So, before I go for auction, is there anyone on this list interested in a > mint, unused, Euro English 700LX? My asking price is USD / Euro 250, plus > all shipping and handling costs, but will consider any reasonable offer ( > and prefer selling to list member, just for fun!). I will include > additionally a serial cable. > > No NOKIA included, just the plain 700LX in new condition. > Note: I do not know whether this will work with US phones? Can anybody > comment? > > I will also consider exchange with upgraded DS/extra memory 200LX. > > Offers please via private email, not via this list. > > Still have, open to a decent bid: > > - EXP ThinFax144 modem with 4 MB memory, complete with book and of course > cable - registered with EXP > > - JetEye infrared printer port, ESI - 9500A > > - Upgrade your old 100LX to 200LX?: Battered 1MB 200LX, cracked and > broken screen, broken battery cover, big hingecrack, motherboard and > keyboard OK ( still use it to copy flashdisk overnight by IR between > 200LX's) - make me an offer I can't refuse. > > - 2 sets of original Connectivity Pack diskettes plus User guide - no > cables. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 16:26:01 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Re: Fluff: FS NEW unused HP 700LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know for sure, because I have one, that the 2190 (the US 1900 GSM phone) will work, and it works quite well. I am on the Bellsouth Mobility DCS system. Note that the GSM 1900 system is not the same as the 1900 PCS such as Sprint, and I think AT&T, use. Unfortunately, mine failed the 1 meter drop test, so I don't use it now. It works fine, sut doesn't communicate with the phone anymore. If you have Voicestream, Pacbell, Omnipoint or some others, and a Nokia 2100 series phone, it will probably work. You just have to make sure it is GSM 1900, Jim > I have for sale or barter an unused HP 700LX Communicator. It has 2 MB and > is the original box with all manuals, extra's, nameplate etc. I have tested > it once more to check it's workings, that is all. > > So, before I go for auction, is there anyone on this list interested in a > mint, unused, Euro English 700LX? My asking price is USD / Euro 250, plus > all shipping and handling costs, but will consider any reasonable offer ( > and prefer selling to list member, just for fun!). I will include > additionally a serial cable. > > No NOKIA included, just the plain 700LX in new condition. > Note: I do not know whether this will work with US phones? Can anybody > comment? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:23:04 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Bad Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But from what I read here, quoting with desktop > email programs is an adventure. The quoting > seems to be hidden as you reply. You don't > seem to be able to alter the appearance of a > quote? > > Is it really that bad under windows? I use Outlook Express which handles quoting reasonably well. But I get this list in digest form and Outlook Express can't handle that, so I have to do it manually. Someone pointed out that I normally leave off the name of the person I'm replying to. I wasn't aware that I did that but I think I probably do it when it's part of a general discussion and the point is what I'm focusing on. Does anyone have an opinion on that? Would it be better to always include the name of the person I'm quoting? Or does it matter? I can't see why it matters unless someone is bothered by it. Then, of course, it does matter. Any feedback? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 15:46:56 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > what you think is abandonware may not be. Maybe the problem is that we need 2 different names. I think technically abandonware describes software where the owner can't be located and in some cases, even determined. There's also that class of software that is owned but no longer available. I don't think the term "abandonware" is really appropriate for that software. But we don't have another word for it. So, for the sake of our discussion, why not call it "datedware"? That seems to fit. The guy who uses abandonware may be breaking the law but there isnt a victim and it's hard to care. But the guy who uses datedware without owning it is a pirate because there is a victim. It's still a little hard for me to care, but I have to recognize that other people have different and equaly valid points of view on that. So maybe we could have a little more intelligent discussion if we discuss these seperately. There are very different issues in each case. And different feelings. Avi, you're probably the most outspoken enemy of piracy on this list. I think we already know how you feel about datedware and whether we should use it? How do you feel about abandonware and whether we should use it? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:05:15 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002901c0992b$26687fc0$59fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We sure do have a name for thsi class of software - "old"... It has also been described as "hard-to-find", but old is a sufficient label IMHO. Any other name seems to me to be an attempt to claim these items as worthless/forgotten/up for grabs... But we all know that, because we have been reading the *hundreds* of posts on this topic (started by my first "me too" post, if some are to be believed ;¬).. Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:47 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: More about abandonware > what you think is abandonware may not be. Maybe the problem is that we need 2 different names. I think technically abandonware describes software where the owner can't be located and in some cases, even determined. There's also that class of software that is owned but no longer available. I don't think the term "abandonware" is really appropriate for that software. But we don't have another word for it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:05:16 -0500 Reply-To: n2vip@bellatlantic.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <002501c09927$d0ec5f60$59fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The name of the original poster should be retained - I would never ecxpect you to research an original poster for a statement, but you should attempt to attribute all quotes to the original author. It is simply polite, if *nothing* else... Ken -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Barry Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 4:23 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: Bad Quoting > But from what I read here, quoting with desktop > email programs is an adventure. The quoting > seems to be hidden as you reply. You don't > seem to be able to alter the appearance of a > quote? > > Is it really that bad under windows? I use Outlook Express which handles quoting reasonably well. But I get this list in digest form and Outlook Express can't handle that, so I have to do it manually. Someone pointed out that I normally leave off the name of the person I'm replying to. I wasn't aware that I did that but I think I probably do it when it's part of a general discussion and the point is what I'm focusing on. Does anyone have an opinion on that? Would it be better to always include the name of the person I'm quoting? Or does it matter? I can't see why it matters unless someone is bothered by it. Then, of course, it does matter. Any feedback? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:57:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Bad Quoting In-Reply-To: <002501c09927$d0ec5f60$59fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Barry wrote: > Does anyone have an opinion on that? Would it be better to > always include the name of the person I'm quoting? Or does it > matter? I can't see why it matters unless someone is bothered > by it. Then, of course, it does matter. Any feedback? I'm sometimes annoyed by it, when I see something quoted that looks interesting and want to look up the original post. Finding the original post without the author name can be tricky, or at least time consuming. Especially since subjects have a tendency to change as well. I realise it's a bit of additional work to add it if you recieve the list in digest mode, but I think it would be appreciated. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:47:41 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've ordered from Scott twice, once for two pcmcia flash cards (both of which work fine) and once for pcmcia cases which are ok. I haven't had any problems and I'm a satisfied customer. Cheers... Russ Tom Salwasser wrote: > Scott. the horror stories from people dealing with you are well > documented on this list. I appreciate being warned about vendors > whose policies I disagree with so I feel it's my duty to do the same > for others. I say again, your prices are great but buyer beware. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 23:47:50 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Xword Comments: To: Bob Christopher MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bob Christopher wrote: > I just started using Xword 2.0, the crossword game program for the > LX. If any of you have puzzles that work with this program I'd sure > appreciate it if you'd send them along to me at > bob@palmtop.com > > Also, is there a particular website repository for puzzles that work > with this program? I don't use the program but I thought it was supposed to use the puzzles from USA Today. Are they available from their web site? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:25:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:04:34 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No need to study. Owners of HP200LX are an intelligent lot. They maximise the use of available resources and doesn't demand "more, more". They are the ones who will survive when the world goes up in flames- since they will then maximise use of whatever is left. ----- Original Message ----- From: "KenLondon" To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 8:25 AM Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:20:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Compuserve on the 200lx Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:23:40 -0800, A Meshar wrote: Ýsnip¨ > Lately it takes 2-3 dials before there is even a login server > on the other side. With the palmtop it reaches the point of > modem answering, and a disconnect DURING the handshake. > > On the desktop there is another phenomenon: The connection wil > take place in terms of handshake, and then - nothing, it is > like the other modem at CIS side just fell off the face of the > earth! Once this happens, it continues consistently unless I > take a 5 minutes break. Very annoying. > > The other problem experienced on palmtop and desktop alike > (more on the desktop), lately on the rise, is a sudden > disconnect - in mid-download, upload, no matter what - just a > sudden disconnect. (Then of course, I have to dial up again, > and that can take 2-3 attempts, of course :-( ...) I have a cable modem account at home, so I use CIS at home only for the LX, with WWW/LX (Version 2) and as my dial-up ISP for both my LX and my Win95 notebook when when I travel. I have not experienced any of the problems with CIS that you mention. In fact, about a year ago the local CIS node was often busy, but now it seems almost never busy. I suspect that more and more CIS Classic customers are moving to CIS 2000, which I believe has a different dial-up network. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:20:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: MOO client? Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:21:09 -0500, Larry Tachna wrote: > > >>OK, I give up. What is a MOO client? > > a program written for dos by someone who likes cows? Thanks Larry. You are the only one who has not made me feel like I missed a whole part of life. Vic, From 152.51E, 50.35N, 10600M, heading SSW ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 17:56:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Bad Quoting In-Reply-To: <002501c09927$d0ec5f60$59fe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 17 Feb 2001, at 15:23, Barry wrote: > Someone pointed out that I normally leave off the name of the > person I'm replying to. I wasn't aware that I did that but I > think I probably do it when it's part of a general discussion > and the point is what I'm focusing on. > > Does anyone have an opinion on that? Would it be better to > always include the name of the person I'm quoting? Or does it > matter? I can't see why it matters unless someone is bothered > by it. Then, of course, it does matter. Any feedback? I'm forced by circumstances to use any of three email clients at home, on the road and at work, so attribution is a pain for me, especially since Lotus Notes (work ... and my main emailer) doesn't add the ">" to the quoted material, and all the clients do it differently. As with Barry (and yes Barry, you do) I've chosen to generally leave off the author name of the previous post, especially when it included nested quotes. I did this because I would rather force the inconvenience of a lookup (of the original post) on someone than to mis-attribute a quote (good or bad) to a poster, which turns out surprisingly easy to do with Lotus Notes, or with any heated discussion. I myself, HATE being misquoted. This post (one of the rare ones I do on Pegasus) bears Barry's name on the quote only because Pegasus does it well. NetTamer on my LX also does quoting and attribution well, but sometimes the nested levels can make for an ugly read. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 20:37:44 -0800 Reply-To: hobchi@hotmail.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: hobchi Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar In-Reply-To: <200102170613.WAA00718@ftel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > In any case, asking question (even point blank ones) is the first step towards understanding something. >Maybe you miss something. I am. >Before you can ask specific questions, as your >were, you need to define for yourself what >is the big picture - where are you going with this - >what are your goals. Otherwise your efforts are >wasted. What you asked about are minor and >extremely narrowly focused questions. >Depending on the "Big picture" these questions >may never come up again. I don't really feel it is >necessary to spend a lot of time and energy on >them at this time. A teacher at school would never say this. Usually teachers answer any questions poised and the questioner can fill in the student's gaps. You keep telling the stuents to "Go back and reread the text is a waste of everybodies time and shows that either yu don't know what you're talking about or you're trying to hide something. If there's anything you don't want to DISCLOSE, don't get into the thread. yor pal al. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 00:41:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? Hi Owen, >Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time it is being run = >and then act accordingly? I believe that it would be necessary to find specialized DOS utilities to do most of what you want to do, but as far as a batch file getting the current time, below is a batch file that will put that into a system variable. Hopefully you will be able to further develop the batch file to do the other things you need done. Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan --- @echo off rem Assigns the present time to environment variable "time" rem ************************************ echo set time=%%3 > current.bat echo. | time > temp.bat call temp.bat del temp.bat del current.bat --- ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:20:41 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: More about abandonware MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >A teacher at school would never say this. >Usually teachers answer any questions poised and >the questioner can fill in the student's gaps. >You keep telling the stuents to "Go back and >reread the text is a waste of everybodies time >and shows that either yu don't know what you're >talking about or you're trying to hide something. >If there's anything you don't want to >DISCLOSE, don't get into the thread. > >yor pal al. Good boy Al. Yor speling iz mutch better. Keep it up !! Miss Jenkins 3A ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:05:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Peichl" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting But from what I read here, quoting with desktop email programs is an adventure. The quoting seems to be hidden as you reply. You don't seem to be able to alter the appearance of a quote? Is it really that bad under windows? ********************************* Some people here have said they have no problem with Outlook. My copy of Outlook Express 5.50 just failed to place the appropriate marks on the above message, so I added the starred line for clarity. I still don't why this happens only sometimes. I find other peculiar behaviors which might be just simply a need to understand the program better, who knows. FWIW, I never had such problems when using DOS base e-mail programs before. And yes, the appearance can be altered manually in any program, but that defeats the purpose of using an automated email program instead of a text editor and some other program. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 02:08:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! > I trust that this will be the last message on the subject!!!!!! If incorrect attributions are coupled with this tone, that is not like to happen. I for one would prefer the Rodney King approach . . . Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 04:03:17 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , freeway@UIA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "T. McCoy" Subject: Re: xword Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bob, Try http://www.litsoft.com they have enough crossword puzzles to keep ya busy for about a year. All fully compatible with the xword program. They also have a freeware desktop crossword program that is well worth the download. It's one of those "hidden treasure" sites. Tommy ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:43:49 +0100 Reply-To: jbelin@altern.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 In-Reply-To: <3A8F1687.68D1AAD5@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:25:43 -0500 KenLondon a =E9crit: > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? Difficult to say... We must define a study procedure : - Prove that an owner of a 200LX as an higher IQ than its machine. Easy. - Prove that a 200 LX has an higher IQ than a WinCE machine. There are AI programs running on 200LX, not (at my knowledge) on WinCE...=20 - Rest to proove that a windows CE machine has an higher IQ than its owner. That seems to not be very dificult... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:09:20 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Barry writes: > Does anyone have an opinion on that? Would it be better to > always include the name of the person I'm quoting? Or does it > matter? I can't see why it matters unless someone is bothered > by it. Then, of course, it does matter. Any feedback? My personal preference is to see some kind of attribution. If nothing else, it's good to give credit to the author for their words. It has the added advantage of lowering the chances of mis-attribution in follow-up messages. That said, quotes without attribution don't bother me a whole lot. I *do* dislike replies that don't clearly mark quoted text as such. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.asc ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:44:38 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I wrote (>>): >> I would like to set up a couple of the Fn keys >> to run batch files when the topcard is on screen. Longden Lo wrote (>): > I think you can do that by creating a Sysem > Macro (More / SystemMacros or Ctrl-More) to > invoke an AppMgr icon that drives a batch file. Thanks! This works fine. However, I have to use the Fn button with the = f-key. Is there any way of doing it so the batch file is invoked by just = the f-key on it's own? After all, the only f-key that does anything on the = topcard is f1. Also, is there any way of assigning a string of keystrokes = to an f-key in DOS? I very vaguely seem to remember having a TSR called = something like f-key.exe which may or may not have done this? PS. Anyone happen to have an icon that looks like it has something to do = with the weather? Maybe a sun and clouds or isobars or something? The cat = or whatever it is doesn't really look all that appropriate. :o) Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 04:58:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LLoo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Longden Lo wrote (>): The other curse of attribution .... misspelled names . > Thanks! This works fine. However, I have to use the Fn button with the > f-key. Is there any way of doing it so the batch file is invoked by > just the f-key on it's own? After all, the only f-key that does > anything on the topcard is f1. Also, is there any way of assigning a > string of keystrokes to an f-key in DOS? I very vaguely seem to > remember having a TSR called something like f-key.exe which may or may > not have done this? All the keys on the LX can be reassigned to any other key using the key200 utility (d:\bin\key200.com). There's also a d:\bin\key200.txt to explain, plus key200 by itself displays a key name template and a mini-help. While I've used this before to swap blue keys (ie, my Memo key brings up NoteTaker), I've never used it to start a batch file (from any key) and don't know if that's possible. You can be the pioneer and let us know. > PS. Anyone happen to have an icon that looks like it has something to > do with the weather? Maybe a sun and clouds or isobars or something? > The cat or whatever it is doesn't really look all that appropriate. There's an icon in the icon library (is that on SUPER?) called forecast.icn with what appears to be a cloud, sun and snowflake. Let me know if you can't find it. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:36:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! Comments: To: Domingo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Domingo wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken London" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 1:39 PM > Subject: Re: Bad Quoting - Ken London, please correct! > > > I trust that this will be the last message on the > subject!!!!!! > > If incorrect attributions are coupled with this tone, that is > not like to happen. I for one would prefer the Rodney King > approach . . . If i'm going to be slammed then I expect apologies for the dozens of times I've been misquoted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 07:45:57 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have ordered from him 3 times now. Never a problem, and always a great deal. I think the more critical people should lighten up some. Neill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:55:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "KenLondon" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 > KenLondon wrote: > > Has anyone studied the correlation > between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? I think the answer to that lies in the history of the PDA. The early PDA experiments tried to include everything a computer had. Later PDAs cut down and simplified features and were thus able to make them smaller. This proved to be more successful. For example, even though WinCE, PocketPC and their built-in applications are much less capable than there corolaries in the 200lx, they sold more units. Today we have the Palm. It can actually do very little and that seems to be the secret of it's great success. So, I think we can see the pattern. Palm users obviously need less help than others and therefore probably have the highest IQs. WinCE and PocketPC users seem to be able to handle highly complex systems and still get very little help. They're probably below average in IQ but they are clever. It would seem that 200lx users are the ones that need the really powerful help. In fact they need all that help so desperately they're willing to carry this much bigger, heavier machine and pay a much higher price for it. I think it's fairly obvious to non-200lx users what that says about their IQ. But since this is directed to 200lx users I think it should be explicitly stated. What a bunch of dummies! Further proof is can be had by looking at the high prices 200lx users are willing to pay for their overweight, oversized units. There has been a rumor that HP stopped producing the 200lx in the hope that the 200lx users would die out sooner. Another rumor is that late night TV hosts have a large store of 200lx user jokes they're ready to unleash. "One day a couple of 200lx workers were studying their gps and the map on their 200lx trying to figure out where they were. One of them said "I've got it! See that building way over there, just beyond those trees". The other 200lx user looked where the first was pointing and nodded. The first one said "We're right on top of that building"." Barry (owner of 2 palms :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 17:33:08 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. Comments: To: Scott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, I followed the correspondence about your failure to refund on that zip drive. It was pretty clear to everyone on this list that you should have refunded. I am astonished to hear that you did not eventually make that refund. Believe me, I won't be buying from you, and I would be very surprised if anyone who read the postings at that time ever did again. Richard Scott wrote: > That is not correct, I have been on this group for over 2 years now and > I have lot's of satisfied customers and I have given exchanges and > refunds in the past when needed so please do not spread negative > information about people. There has been one incident with a zip drive > in the last (2) years that started an issue on this group and other than > that I have always taken care of my customers. Scott > > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > > Beware: These prices are good but list members have been burned and > > this guy does not give refunds for any reason. > > > > Also, where is the FLUFF or FS subject heading? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 10:36:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Terry A. Ward" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Terry A. Ward" Subject: Re: xword Comments: To: freeway@UIA.NET In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010218040317.007ec6c0@mail.uia.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Also check out the New York Times site (http://www.mytimes.com) under Diversions. For a small fee, they have puzzles going back to 1997. All but the larger Sunday puzzles work with XWord At 04:03 AM 2/18/01 -0800, you wrote: >Bob, >Try http://www.litsoft.com they have enough crossword puzzles to keep ya >busy for about a year. All fully compatible with the xword program. They >also have a freeware desktop crossword program that is well worth the >download. It's one of those "hidden treasure" sites. >Tommy > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 09:37:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: 1.2V AA batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but... How can 1.2V NiMH batteries be called "AA" batteries? Aren't AA batteries supposed to be 1.5V? Could I sell 0.3V batteries and call them AA, as long as they were the right size? - Joe -- Joseph S. Barrera III Software Architect, Broadbase Software, Inc. _________________________________________________________ 1.650.219-4557 (cell) / 1.650.588-4801 (home) joe@barrera.org / joebar@broadbase.com / napier@waste.org www.barrera.org / www.broadbase.com / www.waste.org "I came here to check. There is nothing to check. This is just idea." ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:57:33 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: jbelin@altern.org In-Reply-To: <20010218131331.BC7F.LISTES2@altern.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit no question there is no !! alternative to our 200LX. I would be responsible top manager of HP I would decide immediately to continue the old / new LX machine, there is no competition to this machine outside :-) best regards, Michael from Germany !! -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Jacques Belin Sent: Sonntag, Februar 18, 2001 13.44 Uhr To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Le Sat, 17 Feb 2001 19:25:43 -0500 KenLondon a icrit: > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? Difficult to say... We must define a study procedure : - Prove that an owner of a 200LX as an higher IQ than its machine. Easy. - Prove that a 200 LX has an higher IQ than a WinCE machine. There are AI programs running on 200LX, not (at my knowledge) on WinCE... - Rest to proove that a windows CE machine has an higher IQ than its owner. That seems to not be very dificult... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:04:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Bad Quoting In-Reply-To: <00f601c09979$9b843800$706a6c40@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 18.02.2001, 17:21, Domingo wrote: > My copy of Outlook Express 5.50 just failed to place the > appropriate marks on the above message, so I added the starred > line for clarity. I still don't why this happens only > sometimes. I think I explained this repeatedly in this list: There is only just one circumstance when Outlook Express doesn't use the "> " to mark quotes: When the posting to which you reply is encoded as "quoted printable". Stefans posting was: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is why OE doesn't handle the quotes correctly. There are only two ways to produce correct mails: Add the quotes handish or (the best alternative!) change your mail client. There are lots of free and commercial clients which do their job much better than OE does. Ý1¨ Bye G=FCnther Ý1¨ And which are faster, safer, more reliable, more stable, easier to backup... but this is another topic. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 13:34:01 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is the first useful message from you on this subject I have seen. Such information was not addressed to me before. I always read anything addressed to me, but liberally skip anything else I may not be interested in. It certainly was not included in our last interchange on the subject. If it had, the suggested solution would not have sounded arrogant to me. Either way, I am still a long way from changing programs at this time. Domingo ----- Original Message ----- From: "G|nther Eisele" To: Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 1:04 PM Subject: Re: Bad Quoting 18.02.2001, 17:21, Domingo wrote: > My copy of Outlook Express 5.50 just failed to place the > appropriate marks on the above message, so I added the starred > line for clarity. I still don't why this happens only > sometimes. I think I explained this repeatedly in this list: There is only just one circumstance when Outlook Express doesn't use the "> " to mark quotes: When the posting to which you reply is encoded as "quoted printable". Stefans posting was: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is why OE doesn't handle the quotes correctly. There are only two ways to produce correct mails: Add the quotes handish or (the best alternative!) change your mail client. There are lots of free and commercial clients which do their job much better than OE does. Ý1¨ Bye G|nther Ý1¨ And which are faster, safer, more reliable, more stable, easier to backup... but this is another topic. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 12:58:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Kelley, Timothy P" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Kelley, Timothy P" Subject: Re: Bad Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain I for one would like to see an end to this thread. I thought this was a group talking about the 200lx? Regards, Timothy P. Kelley GIS eSolutions 713-432-2036 Wireless Email - Enabling the Mobile Workforce o__ _.>/)_ (_) \(_)......Semper..Mobilus.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:41:43 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joe wrote: >Okay, I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but... >How can 1.2V NiMH batteries be called "AA" batteries? >Aren't AA batteries supposed to be 1.5V? >Could I sell 0.3V batteries and call them AA, as long >as they were the right size? AA is a form factor. Dimensions only. Any cell that fits the dimensions is AA Cheers, Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:13:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh > >and shows that either yu don't know what you're > >talking about or you're trying to hide something. > >If there's anything you don't want to > >DISCLOSE, don't get into the thread. > > > >yor pal al. > > Good boy Al. Yor speling iz mutch better. > Keep it up !! > > Miss Jenkins 3A ROTFLMMFAO :-D :-P whew! that one made me cry! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 15:26:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Windows XP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just heard that the new version of windows will be sold for "one low price" and then you willl pay "a yearly charge" to continue using it. The more I hear about this new windows the more I long for DOS on the 200lx. So with Windows XP it will be the upgrade that will never end or will end when your wallet is empty (whichever comes first). Then there is the idea of running software off of the internet instead of on your computer. That scares me even more. The more I hear of these advances the more I long for DOS and my 200lx...new is not always better. I also heard that Windows XP will check to see if your music is legally licensed, the next step will be check if your software is leagally registered. The more they improve windows the better DOS and the 200lx look. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:47:08 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <002101c099d9$61923a60$95696c40@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 18.02.2001, 22:40, Domingo wrote: > This is the first useful message from you on this subject I > have seen. Such information was not addressed to me before. 22.1.2001, 18:21:17, I wrote exactly the same, directly addressed to you. Message-ID: <1446065593.20010122182117@gmx.de> > anything else I may not be interested in. It certainly was > not included in our last interchange on the subject. It was. See message above. > If it had, the suggested solution would not have sounded arrogant to me. So my last answer did sound arrogant to you or not=3F Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:01:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: MSN email Comments: To: ccohen5@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Colin Cohen wrote: > Avi, Many thanks for your response. I could not get that mod to > work. BTW I have tried it with and without all the combinations of > APOP and RPA and each time I get the same response: LOGIN Refused I wonder if that is because you use incorrect login and/or password? Re password, you must enter it IN SETUP.EXE, not directly into the POST.CFG (I suspect you are aware of it...) > or the POSTLX message that seems to say that I reached the POP > server but the login bounced during authentication. How do you know that? > I do not have this problem with Outlook (natch) and I have also > not been able to get either compuserve or MSN as in > xxxx@email.msn.com through my yahoo account. Compuserve I get all he time! I use the POP3 id and use pop.compuserve.com as the POP3 server name. The server does not support the LAST command, so you cannot check the "Retrieve new messages only" - just uncheck it. I just tried it minutes ago. > Any thoughts. I do not have thoughts about MSN. They may have some requirement in the MS-CHAP which may make it just dissimilar enough from CHAP to fail... My recommendation is to tell them, and/or leave the service. There are som many hundreds of good, internet comliant service, that I am not sure about the attraction to a proprietary service. As to making the adjustments to Post/LX's CHAP - I think I won't propose it to Andreas, I still value my life ... But in truth, I do not even know that the problem is MS-CHAP or not. We know that there are a few email services you cannot access from the Internet - too bad. My thought is to let them die with non-use. Avi M. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:14:52 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? In-Reply-To: <20010218.004214.3686.0.j_vanderstel@juno.com> from "John J Vanderstel" at Feb 18, 2001 12:41:50 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time it is being > run and then act accordingly? Avi posted a wonderfully obtuse batch file a couple of years ago that does this. I think it similar to the one you posted John, although I don't remember it being quite so clear. If there is a request, and Avi can't find his copy, I may have the original around here somewhere. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:24:54 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Anybody know this e-mail address? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I just sent out an e-mail to the people who have previously received my = report on the HPLX weatherfax project and one of the addresses bounced. = However, the address that bounced was not one of those I sent to, so = obviously someone is getting their e-mail forwarded. Does anyone here know = the e-mail address ? I just wanted to know who I'm = not reaching. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:52:30 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Re: Windows XP Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like Microsoft wants to self destruct like IBM did when they tried to corner the market with the Microchannel architecture.... I'm backing up all my favorite DOS programs to CD, while at the same time looking at other operating systems. Apple needs to come out with an OS11 that runs on Intel chips. BTW, BeOS is cute, but I don't have the right network adapter to really check it out. Mike... KenLondon wrote: > Just heard that the new version of windows will be sold for "one low > price" and > then you willl pay "a yearly charge" to continue using it. The more I > hear about this > new windows the more I long for DOS on the 200lx. > > So with Windows XP it will be the upgrade that will never end or will > end when > your wallet is empty (whichever comes first). > > Then there is the idea of running software off of the internet instead > of on your computer. That scares me even more. > > The more I hear of these advances the more I long for DOS and my > 200lx...new is > not always better. > > I also heard that Windows XP will check to see if your music is legally > licensed, the > next step will be check if your software is leagally registered. The > more they improve windows the better DOS and the 200lx look. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:59:49 -0500 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: joe@BARRERA.ORG In-Reply-To: <14992.2124.599000.447978@barrera.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 2/18/2001 at 9:37 AM Joseph S. Barrera III wrote, in heavily edited part: >Could I sell 0.3V batteries and call them AA, as long >as they were the right size? Yes. You could also sell 3.0V batteries and call them AA, as long as they are the right size. Some companies are doing so: lithium cells! I'll also point out that NiCads run about the same 1.2 volts and are considered AAs (or Cs or Ds) as well. "9 Volt" batteries are particularly interesting; they're commonly found in NiCads as 8.4 volts (7 cells), but you can also buy 7.2V and 9.6V versions Anyway, as Roger said, designations like AA, AAA, C, D, etc. are form factors and place no restriction on voltage (or weight or any other parameter, as far as I know.) Speaking of form factors, there is this tantalizing one called "A", in which you can easily get 2100 mAH (2.1 AH) NiMH batteries. They are the same length and shape as AAs but are a tenth of an inch larger in diameter. Unfortunately, eyeballing the LX's battery compartment says they're just a little bit too big to fit, even if one peeled off the thick (he said hopefully) plastic outer layer of the battery. Pity. 2.1 AH would be a nice step up in capacity! Rick ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:09:50 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Email on LX and Desktop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone keep their mail on a flashcard and run it on both their desktop and their LX? Is there a way to read (and reply) to Netscape or Eudora on the LX? Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:30:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even more interestingly, there are C size NiCd packaged in empty shell filled with air and sold as D size NiCd battery! Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Rick Rae To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Sunday, February 18, 2001 3:59 PM Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? >On 2/18/2001 at 9:37 AM Joseph S. Barrera III wrote, in heavily edited >part: > >>Could I sell 0.3V batteries and call them AA, as long >>as they were the right size? > >Yes. You could also sell 3.0V batteries and call them AA, as long as they >are the right size. Some companies are doing so: lithium cells! Ýdeleted¨ >Anyway, as Roger said, designations like AA, AAA, C, D, etc. are form >factors and place no restriction on voltage (or weight or any other >parameter, as far as I know.) > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:34:24 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joseph S. Barrera III wrote: > Okay, I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but... > > How can 1.2V NiMH batteries be called "AA" batteries? > Aren't AA batteries supposed to be 1.5V? AA refers to size, not voltage. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:34:37 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Roger Whitmarsh MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roger Whitmarsh wrote: > Good boy Al. Yor speling iz mutch better. > Keep it up !! > > Miss Jenkins 3A Dear Miss Jenkins: You are wicked!!! ... My neighbours shake their heads again trying to figure out why I, a generally very quiet neighbour, suddenly burst out in prolonged, and basically uncontrolled laughter! That was one for the books. Thankyou! Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:37:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: Alfred Lee In-Reply-To: <001501c09a0b$335e26e0$0e3a8218@default.we.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alfred Lee writes: > Even more interestingly, there are C size NiCd packaged in empty > shell filled with air and sold as D size NiCd battery! > > Alfred Sounds cool. How about D size NiMH packaged in high pressure cell and sold as AA size NiMH battery? If you find any of those, let me know! - Joe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:38:51 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Fluff: Flying pigs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! In a comment to a post from Avi Meshar I wrote (>): > PS. The dicussions of abandonware and > quoting every day are getting rather boring... Looking back at it later, I understand that this could be seen as a = personal criticism of Avi. This was not my intention, I was commenting on = the thread in general. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 19:32:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: TrimTech Oldie software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Here is an oldie: Anyone interested in this software? It is a 1987 vintage computer-assisted Diet Monitor. It comes with a manaul 61 pages, and two 5.25" diskettes (yes...) One diskette says "Demo Diskette" the other just the name "trimTech: the computer-assisted diet monitor. I have no 5.25" floppy drives, and so I cannot test it, i.e. it is "AS IS", no guarantee of any sort. The system requirements say: "Trip-tech is designed to run on all IVM PC, XT, AT, PS/2, and compatible computers with a minimum of 256K of memory. A DOS version 2.0 or higher is also required. A printer is not required, but is useful for printing the DAILY ANALYSIS REPORT which is part of the TRIM-TECH program." This thing even runs on a two-floppy setup machine. If you are interested, it will cost you $5.00. I will provide details by email to the first person who writes back. The $5.00 includes shipping in the USA. If you are outside the US, it'll cost more - we can discuss in email. I only have one copy. Thank you. Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:38:49 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: WTB: Wind 95/98 CD & Boot Disk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a Wind 95/98 CD & boot disk that they would like to sell? I need to install it on my son's computer and the disk that I thought I had, I didn't really have :) I figured I would ask here before I looked on eBay. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:22:40 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have always taken care of my customers. Scott not true; i asked Scott twice to sell me 20mb discs by paying with a US Dollar check, and twice i received no answer - i had to ask another list member to buy it for me and send him my check instead. Nathalie btw. WTB used CF - any size ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 05:40:14 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stuart Gray Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stuart Gray Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 17 Feb 2001 to 18 Feb 2001 (#2001-70) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike said: > > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:52:30 -0800 > From: Mike Schneider > Subject: Re: Windows XP > > Sounds like Microsoft wants to self destruct like IBM did when they tried > to corner the market with the Microchannel architecture.... > > I'm backing up all my favorite DOS programs to CD, while at the same time > looking at other operating systems. Apple needs to come out with an OS11 > that runs on Intel chips. > > BTW, BeOS is cute, but I don't have the right network adapter to really > check it out. > > Mike... > I say: Why not use OS/2? It has far,far better DOS support than Win 9x or NT, a highly active community, doesn't require enormous resources, can run 16-bit windows apps natively, 32-bit apps through Odin, a translator (albeit with limited success - but getting better). My laptop is already "warped", and I am preparing my desktop (just locating sound card drivers) Stuart ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 00:31:01 -0500 Reply-To: RickRae@usa.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rick Rae Subject: OT/Fluffy: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: rclott@ro.com In-Reply-To: <200102190026.f1J0QEm00080@mail.hiwaay.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 2/18/2001 at 6:26 PM Chris Lott wrote, in part: >I have always been interested in the history of these letter designations. >I once asked an old fellow at a local electronics shop about them. We >pulled out a battery catalog, and figured out that when "modern" batteries >as we know them came about, there was already a common designation for A >and B batteries with tube equipment. That's why, we presumed, there is >no modern A or B battery. They picked up above and below the existing >common types, C and D above, and AA and AAA below. You're certainly correct as far as the original "A" and "B" batteries. (The high voltage in radios and TVs (not the multi-kilovolt second anode voltage here, though... we're talking more in the range of 90V) is still sometimes referred to as "B+", a nod to the old high-voltage "B" battery supply in early tube sets). But there is in fact a modern "A" battery, which I mentioned in my previous message. Check for example Digi-Key catalog Q004, page 552, upper section of the page or bottom couple of lines (among other places). I, too, would be interested in the evolution of battery designations (how'd we get all the way to "N", for example?) If you get any interesting stuff on this, I wouldn't mind being forwarded on it. If you're into letter trivia 8¬) the gauges/sizes of model railroads has a similar interesting history. And did you know there is a connection between the size of the Space Shuttle and the spacing of early wagon wheels? If you're into this sort of thing, see if you can dig up copies of the old PBS program "Connections." Fascinating stuff, really. Rick, mostly done fluffing for now. ;¬) P.S. You can buy ten 9V batteries and, by clicking them together into a 90V pack, adding one resistor, one capacitor, and a neon bulb, make a thingum that will sit on top of a door frame and happily flash its little light at you for years. This was a common diversion for electronics nuts (the precursor of nerds and geeks, I suppose) back in the days before you could do the same thing at a much lower voltage with an LED. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:29:53 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Kheehua Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Kheehua Subject: Re: WTB: Wind 95/98 CD & Boot Disk Comments: To: Jeff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why don't u go to a friend's PC and ask him to make a boot disk for you. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: WTB: Wind 95/98 CD & Boot Disk > Does anyone have a Wind 95/98 CD & boot disk that they would like to sell? > I need to install it on my son's computer and the disk that I thought I > had, I didn't really have :) I figured I would ask here before I looked on > eBay. > > Jeff > > -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- > -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- > -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 22:18:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Aren't we getting a wee bit excited here? > > After taking a considerable amount of time and thought to > write all the messages and think about the "roadmap" for a old > software" project, I am really disappointed that all you could > come up with is poking fun at my excitement. Maybe Ed was > right after all about the "Testinessmeter" registering warmer > and warmer ... Actually, I meant "excited" as in "getting testy". Getting excited as in "getting interested" is great! > Maybe you miss something. Before you can ask specific > questions, as your were, you need to define for yourself what > is the big picture - where are you going with this - what are > your goals. Otherwise your efforts are wasted. What you asked > about are minor and extremely narrowly focused questions. > Depending on the "Big picture" these questions may never come > up again. I don't really feel it is necessary to spend a lot > of time and energy on them at this time. Quite a *judgement* on someone else's process of understanding, don't you think? Sorry if I don't work at understanding something the same way you do, but having done it again and again, I do know that it works: it involves finding the boundaries of a problem before filling in the "big picture", as you call it. Very similar to doing a puzzle -- especially if you don't really know what the picture really is. > in. Making fun of my excitement is not productive and not > germaine to the topic. On big e-mail from you about how you thought I was making fun of you -- even though you totally did not bother to ask. Methink the waste of time was yours and all yours. > > Talking of questions, I still don't understand what you mean by "inactive". What > > makes a software "inactive", and how does it relate to selling licenses? > > There are likely other issues that you do not understand in > this topic, and I am sure I have many questions I do not > understand. I am equally sure that many questions will come up > if we - as a group - decide to go forward and deal with this > project. Again, one big paragraph that beats around the bush. Why not just answer the question, I wonder? Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 01:26:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:03:57 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > > Ace Frehley wrote: > > I think people have to realize that corporations only do what's best > > for there needs and bottom lines... > > They have to. It is their legal duty! If they do not, they can > go to jail, I kid you not. Avi - let's make sure I understand you. (We certainly would not want me to be confused ) You mean that if some corporation makes a donation to a charitable cause, and they derive no benefit, not even good publicity, then they can go to jail? Quite amazing I would say. And, by the way, how do you send a corporation to jail? I do understand that the managers of corporations are obligated to act in the best interests of the share holders of the corporation. However, there is quite a bit of latitude in "best interest", and, unless the managers are committing fraud or lining their own pockets, I doubt they would be sent to jail for an act of kindness that does not also benefit the share holders. At the worst, they would be removed from office. So, getting back on topic. I would be surprised if any decent manager of a software company could not make a compelling argument that releasing obsolete software as freeware, under conditions that protected the company from added costs, such as customer support costs, as Borland did, did not also help the image of their company and thus help their share holders. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:27:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Feher Tamas Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Feher Tamas Subject: Does Goin' Postal support printing? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-2 Hello all, Do you know if there was ever a Goin' Postal version which supported printing? Doing Alt+Prtscr is not an option for this case. Or can I use built-in cc:Mail without so much modifications (I mean less than ccLXPOP) if there is a Lotud Domino v5 server available for mailhost? Thank you in advance, Sincerely: Famas Feher. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:54:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: SUPER? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What happened to the SUPER site? When I try to load www.palmtop.net I end up getting HPLX.net. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:55:29 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Does Goin' Postal support printing? Comments: To: Feher Tamas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not as such, but you van extract messages or entire mailboxes to a text file. HTH Etienne ----- Original Message ----- From: Feher Tamas To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 02:27 PM Subject: Does Goin' Postal support printing? > Hello all, > > Do you know if there was ever a Goin' Postal version which > supported printing? Doing Alt+Prtscr is not an option for > this case. > > Or can I use built-in cc:Mail without so much modifications > (I mean less than ccLXPOP) if there is a Lotud Domino v5 > server available for mailhost? > > Thank you in advance, Sincerely: Famas Feher. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 20:27:01 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Owen Samuelson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Owen Samuelson Subject: Re: Xword MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C099E9.2674EA80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C099E9.2674EA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob, Between USA Today and New York Times websites you have tons of puzzles = that work with Xword. Owen ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C099E9.2674EA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bob,
Between USA Today and New York Times websites you = have tons of=20 puzzles that work with Xword.
Owen
 
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C099E9.2674EA80-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:51:25 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Flash Card on HP320LX Comments: To: Kelly McMillin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I have a 32MB Flash Card on my HP 320 LX running Windows CE 1.0. I can't seem to get any clue as to how much space is available on this folder that I have not kept up on win-ce devices but this was always a peculiar failing that was remedied by 3rd party software. Check out some of the win-ce sites for a link. good luck ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:51:31 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Fryday MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I really see no point in this list discussing accounting practices or legal issues regarding why corporations do what they do with their old software. It is arcane and pointless. Work on the corporations if you wish but stop working over each other. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 07:52:36 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Does Goin' Postal support printing? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Goin' Postal does not employ any direct print command that I am aware of. You have four alternatives, however, to print any message using GP on a desktop PC: 1. Menu/Message/Extract to a text file. Open that file in a DOS text editor like Q-Edit, or Edit.com and print from there. 2. Utilize a TSR like sidekick. Block the text you want to print, bring up the TSR and print through it. 3. Utilize the print functions in the text editor you use with Goin' Postal. Note: If you use RED.com, sorry, no print function. On an HP LX palmtop: 4. On the LX in Goin' Postal do Menu/Message/Extract and save to a text file. Use Filer's Menu/File/Print command. Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:06:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? Well, we could all post our IQs to the list and average the result. I = suspect that our reported average will be higher than the population average. Of course, I can't post mine because it has so many digits that it would run = over the maximum message size for the list Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:12:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, which side of the decimal point? d;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Carder To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? Well, we could all post our IQs to the list and average the result. I suspect that our reported average will be higher than the population average. Of course, I can't post mine because it has so many digits that it would run over the maximum message size for the list Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:33:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sunday, 18.02.2001 at 23:59 GMT, Rick Rae wrote: > Yes. You could also sell 3.0V batteries and call them AA, as long as they > are the right size. Some companies are doing so: lithium cells! > The AA size "Energizer Hi Energy Lithium" cells are 1.5V. <... SNIP...> > > Speaking of form factors, there is this tantalizing one called "A", in > which you can easily get 2100 mAH (2.1 AH) NiMH batteries. They are the > same length and shape as AAs but are a tenth of an inch larger in diameter. > Unfortunately, eyeballing the LX's battery compartment says they're just a > little bit too big to fit, even if one peeled off the thick (he said > hopefully) plastic outer layer of the battery. > > Pity. 2.1 AH would be a nice step up in capacity! > I bought 1650 mAh NiMH AA cells lately in Germany. On this discussion list, someone posted a URL to a picture with two different brands of Japanese NiMH AA cells a couple months ago. They were 2800 mAh! They don't seem to be available outside Japan though. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:39:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: MOO client? Comments: To: victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <200102180120.UAA19373@spdmraab.compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Vic, From 152.51E, 50.35N, 10600M, heading SSW hey your not supposed to be using that thing in the plane! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:39:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Bad Quoting Comments: To: Domingo In-Reply-To: <00f601c09979$9b843800$706a6c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>My copy of Outlook Express 5.50 just failed to place the >>appropriate marks on the above message, so I added the starred try looking in setup, tool, options, preferences, mail delivery on the bottom half of the dialog box you should be able to set the way you want replies and forwards handled ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:39:47 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" In-Reply-To: <14992.2124.599000.447978@barrera.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Could I sell 0.3V batteries and call them AA, as long >>as they were the right size? maybe but I believe aa referes to the packaging not the voltage ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:14:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Windows XP Comments: To: Mike Schneider In-Reply-To: <3A908A6E.F466DE0E@ameritech.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Sounds like Microsoft wants to self destruct like IBM did when they tried >>to corner the market with the Microchannel architecture.... hey what do you mean? I still have a microchannel machine......... in the garage under some rubbish. that sounds like an urban legend but ya never know with MS, it did give me a good laugh though ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:15:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Does Goin' Postal support printing? Comments: To: Bob Christopher In-Reply-To: <200102191501.f1JF1TE15333@ez0.ezlink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>1. Menu/Message/Extract to a text file. Open that file in a no need to open the file just copy or type it out to the port from the command prompt copy file.txt lpt1: type file.txt > lpt1: ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 08:37:16 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lfast@NATIVELAW.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Lawrence Fast Subject: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From time to time something appears on the list about syncing our 200LX's with Lotus Notes. Given the pervasive nature of groupware (Lotus Notes in particular) and the need of many of us to work in teams, the inability of the 200LX to sync with our office computers has forced many of us to abandon our beloved 200LX's. However, I found the following exchange on the alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp news groups: > From: "Michael Anderson" > Newsgroups: alt.comp.sys.palmtops.hp > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:18 AM > Subject: Re: Sync HP200lx and Lotus Notes R5 > > > > I don't think you can do mail. > > > > I did, however, come up with a way to do the PIM stuff ... I used > > IntelliSync from the HP to Schedule+, and XTNDConnect PC (was RandSoft > > Harmony at the time) from http://www.extendedsystems.com to Sync Sched+ > > to NotesR5. > > > > Mike > > > > "Geoff Fleck" wrote in message > > news:3A818D02.DF1D41@mosaid.com... > > > > > > Can anyone suggest software product(s) which can link the HP200lx with > > > the user mail database in Lotus Notes R5. > > > > > > Suggestion appreciated. > > > Geoff Fleck I have XTNDConnect and an old copy of Schedule+. However I cannot find a copy of IntelliSync anywhere. Puma is no longer selling or supporting IntelliSync for the 200LX. I have copies of Intellilink and Palm Connect from my Win 3.1 days but neither works on either WinNT or Win98SE. Has anyone on the list tried the Lotus Notes - XTNDConnect - Schedule+ - IntelliSync - 200LX solution? Any ideas on how to find a copy of IntelliSync? Solutions and suggestions will be much appreciated! Larry Fast ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:26:23 -0500 Reply-To: Nicholas Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nicholas Chan Subject: 200LX Buy and Sell In-Reply-To: <200101010411.f014B4r23517@spade.pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am needing to get a few units of 1 and 2Meg SINGLE SPEED 200LX. I wish to sell 1 unit of a 200LX 2Meg DS unit which displays 99% PERFECTLY without the typical DS distortion; it displays the same with or without the DS driver, just that there is a 2 - 3mm column on the left that is fuzzed out without the driver. Please email me off the list. Thank you. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:43:37 -0500 Reply-To: Nicholas Chan Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nicholas Chan Subject: Shipping In-Reply-To: <200006090003.IAA05705@sicilia.pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There was an individual on this list that always had a tagline like "I ship for small businesses and individuals, mail me" or something like that. Is that person still around? Kindly get to me if you are the person. Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:01:58 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes Comments: To: lfast@NATIVELAW.COM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Monday, 19.02.2001 at 16:37 GMT, Lawrence Fast wrote: > From time to time something appears on the list about syncing our 200LX's > with Lotus Notes. Given the pervasive nature of groupware (Lotus Notes in > particular) and the need of many of us to work in teams, the inability of > the 200LX to sync with our office computers has forced many of us to > abandon our beloved 200LX's. > I wrote a LotusScript program that syncs he HP 200 LX appointment book with the Notes calendar, although it does it only one-way (the palmtop is the master, the Notes calendar the slave, so you don't get Notes invitations synced). If you want the program (it runs as an agent on the Notes client), send me an e-mail. You have to have a "Designer for Domino" client to be able to install the agent or you'll have someone with this authority do it for you. I'm no longer using this program (I'm using an IBM WorkPad aka. Palm Pilot for my calendar now) but it should still work with Lotus Notes 4.6 and 5.0. Ulrich Boche IT Security Technical Consultant IBM eServer Sales Technical Support (OS/390 + e-Business Security) Am Keltenwald 1, 71139 Ehningen, Germany Phone: +49-7034/15-2716, Mobile-GSM: +49-171/5533450 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:37:26 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: XWord MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Since SUPER seems to be down, does anyone have a copy of XWord (*version 2*) they would be willing to send me? Thanks! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:47:44 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: XWord In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Theodore Heise wrote: > Since SUPER seems to be down, does anyone have a copy of XWord > (*version 2*) they would be willing to send me? As you noticed earlier, SUPER now goes to HPLX.net. The DNS records have been changed so apparently it is in the process of moving to David Sargeants server. I don't know if this is a good thing, as HPLX.net hasn't been updated in the past year. At least SUPER has had a few updates. Anyway, I've got a copy of ALL the files from SUPER, so if you haven't gotten XWORD from someone else already let me know and I'll send it. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:54:03 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: XWord In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Mike Kopplin wrote: > As you noticed earlier, SUPER now goes to HPLX.net. The DNS > records have been changed so apparently it is in the process of > moving to David Sargeants server. I don't know if this is a good > thing, as HPLX.net hasn't been updated in the past year. At > least SUPER has had a few updates. I don't care so much if SUPER gets updated, as I do that the files not go away--I haven't copied all the files as some smart people have apparently done. :) I'd *love* a copy if you would be willing to send it. Thanks Mike! Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:56:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: SUPER? Hmmm... a query into their name record shows the output below. I guess Mitch and Dave are rearranging stuff... BTW: It looks like the NS.HPLX.ORG name server is on a cable modem (at Dave's house?). Maybe Dave made a mistake? The Palmtop Network (PALMTOP2-DOM) 7652 Wethersfield Drive West Chester, OH 45069 US Domain Name: PALMTOP.NET Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Sargeant, David (DS14475) david@HPLX.ORG PIC 550 Wyoming Street Boulder City, NV 89005 702-293-9505 (FAX) 702-293-9505 Billing Contact: Hamm, Mitchell B (MH1878) mitch@PALMTOP.NET The Palmtop Network 7652 Wethersfield Dr 7652 Wethersfield Dr West Chester, OH 45069 513-860-3438 (FAX) 801-881-1118 Record last updated on 17-Feb-2001. Record expires on 21-Nov-2001. Record created on 20-Nov-1996. Database last updated on 19-Feb-2001 10:23:07 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS.HPLX.ORG 24.234.48.11 SOUTHVALLEYCONSULTING.COM 216.139.14.27 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theodore Heise" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: SUPER? > What happened to the SUPER site? When I try to load www.palmtop.net > I end up getting HPLX.net. > > Ted > > -- > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:01:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 Comments: To: steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Use scientific notation, Wiseguy! :-) Unless your IQ is larger than a googleplex, in which case you should just reveal yourself as the Divine incarnate. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Carder" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Fluff: Multiplying by 0 > Has anyone studied the correlation between IQ and ownership of a 200lx? Well, we could all post our IQs to the list and average the result. I suspect that our reported average will be higher than the population average. Of course, I can't post mine because it has so many digits that it would run over the maximum message size for the list Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:21:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: OT/Fluffy: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: RickRae@usa.net > If you're into letter trivia 8¬) the gauges/sizes of model railroads has a > similar interesting history. And did you know there is a connection > between the size of the Space Shuttle and the spacing of early wagon > wheels? If you're into this sort of thing, see if you can dig up copies of > the old PBS program "Connections." Fascinating stuff, really. That show is great. I especially liked the episode where he started the show in the cockpit of an American B-17 bomber. He started talking about some old technology (totally unrelated to bombers) that eventually led to Rutherford's explorations with particle trails in cloud chambers. This eventually led to the Quantum Mechanics. At the end of the show we see the bomber he was sitting in was the 'Enola Gay'. The show is like a Science History version of 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon'. That guy has a column in 'Scientific American' now but I like his narration better than his writing. I think his name is James Burke, an MIT guy (or maybe Oxford... he's a Brit). There's another good show with this little old guy named phillip morrison. I'm a big fan of documentary TV. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:27:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "F. Kaufman" wrote: > I really see no point in this list discussing accounting practices > or legal issues regarding why corporations do what they do > with their old software. It is arcane and pointless. Work > on the corporations if you wish but stop working over each other. It is not pointless....many of us have a 200lx that is still in use..... as long as the device is in use we will need software. And many of these 200lxs will remain in use because the alternatives suck. Many of us will probably die still grasping onto our 200lxs. As I have said many times....newer is not always better. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:31:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Flash Card on HP320LX Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > I have a 32MB Flash Card on my HP 320 LX running Windows CE 1.0. I > can't seem to get any clue as to how much space is available on this > folder that > > I have not kept up on win-ce devices but this was always a peculiar > failing that was remedied by 3rd party software. Check out some of the > win-ce sites for a link. > > good luck > Many of the wince devices have a memory screen where it will show how much space is available in memory. I'm not familiar with the 320 but the 545 and the 680 will show available memory. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:18:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Anthony Ettipio Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Anthony Ettipio Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 17 Feb 2001 to 18 Feb 2001 (#2001-70) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SIGNOFF HPLX-L -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of Stuart Gray Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:40 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 17 Feb 2001 to 18 Feb 2001 (#2001-70) Mike said: > > Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:52:30 -0800 > From: Mike Schneider > Subject: Re: Windows XP > > Sounds like Microsoft wants to self destruct like IBM did when they tried > to corner the market with the Microchannel architecture.... > > I'm backing up all my favorite DOS programs to CD, while at the same time > looking at other operating systems. Apple needs to come out with an OS11 > that runs on Intel chips. > > BTW, BeOS is cute, but I don't have the right network adapter to really > check it out. > > Mike... > I say: Why not use OS/2? It has far,far better DOS support than Win 9x or NT, a highly active community, doesn't require enormous resources, can run 16-bit windows apps natively, 32-bit apps through Odin, a translator (albeit with limited success - but getting better). My laptop is already "warped", and I am preparing my desktop (just locating sound card drivers) Stuart ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:40:06 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: "Invalid File Type" message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, My 32mb Ds 200 LX is with Thaddeus for a hinge crack repair, and I'm using my backup which is a 5mb DS. I have installed only some of my C: drive software including most of my C:_Dat in which I have database files with the suffix .RDB and .MDB which I developed on the other machine and which worked fine on it. When I try to use them on the backup LX I get the message "Invalid File Type". So I changed the name to .GDB but I still get the error message. I'm sure some of you stalwarts know the answer to this. TIA Richard ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:52:16 +0100 Reply-To: jbelin@altern.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: SUPER? In-Reply-To: <004201c09a9d$3db99790$0200a8c0@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:56:10 -0500 Ed Padin a =E9crit: > Record last updated on 17-Feb-2001. If it is related to DNS changes, we must wait a few days in order that the change propagate thru the others DNS. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:10:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , chagri9999@YAHOO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John Barkey Subject: FLUFF: Test - pls ignore MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Testing _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:00:00 +0000 Reply-To: Qman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Qman Subject: Accessories for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey All, I have the following items for sale, shipping included: New HP Palmtop Paper CD InfoBase 2000 version $50.00. Pocket Liberator shoulder Holster $50.00. HP Palmtop accessory cradle, complete with serial cable & AC adapter ( I used it as a docking station) $40.00 MicroPorte Pocket Modem Complete with AC adapter and HP null modem adapter $30.00 I also have a rare 5MB upgrade 100LX in good condition. Yeap thats right a 5MB 100LX. It comes complete with User's guide , AC adapter, serial cable, Ripoff carrying case and any software I can find. So make an offer. Thanks, Qman... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:05:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Sean McKay Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Sean McKay Subject: Re: SUPER? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's back now from my end... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 13:13:11 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , A Meshar Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: A Meshar Subject: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thank you all for the good knowledge and sharing you provided to me here. I am particularly fond of the tips and tricks posted to make the Palmtop better and stronger. Also special to me was the discussion and discernible movement on abandonware. This community seems to truly want to deal with abandonware to take care of the users' needs, but also of the needs of the software owners. I applaud this! In the past I nearly got sick when posts in threads on HV development developed into personal attacks on me. I swore then to never post in long or controversial threads here. I made a mistake recently to get into a similar situation, same person - different topic. But I am wiser now (debatable...) and so I am saying goodbye now, before this becomes a problem. If anyone needs help with D&A Software, there are people here who will help, but if you need official help, write to support@dasoft.com - I'll be happy to help... Best regards, Avi ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:28:48 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Barry, On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:48:45 -0600, Barry wrote: > They made a Y2K patched version available for download and > specifically said it was for owners of that version (5.5?). I > think you had to even register and say you were a legal owner > before you could download it. Here in Germany MS released a Y2K update CD for free, which was avialable in nearly every book store. It contained a copy of the German version of Word 5.5. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:24:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Sidekick Comments: To: Bob Christopher In-Reply-To: <200102191501.f1JF1TE15333@ez0.ezlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi How does one get hold of a DOS version of Sidekick? It's like Graph-in-a-Box, which all the bosses loved at my old office, but I never saw the point of at the time. When you need it, it is too late. Regards Andrew ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:50:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: Alfred Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 16:30:45 -0800, Alfred Lee wrote: > > Even more interestingly, there are C size NiCd packaged in empty > shell filled with air and sold as D size NiCd battery! From my experience, I would say that _most_ "normal" capacity D-size NiCad cells are really C-size cells in a D-size outer jacket. Check the capacity of C and D NiCads and they will often be the same. You usually need to purchase a "high capacity" D-size NiCad to get a D-size inner battery. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:50:22 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: PAL Gold light vs Maglights Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:36:58 -0800, Longden Loo wrote: > > As I understand it, there is no true white LED and the flashlight > manufacturers circumvent that by using a bluish-white LED with a coating > that filters out some of the blue light. Hence, this is why the white LEDs > aren't usually the brightest. You are correct that there are no true white LEDs. The white coating on the LED you have is a phosphor, similar to that used on fluorescent lamps, that converts the blue and near-UV light produced by the LED into a red-green light. When combined with the blue light from the LED, the red-green light produced by the phosphor makes white light. The other way to make a "white" LED is to combine red, blue and green LEDs in the same package or even on the same chip, but these are presently more expensive, as the chips must be carefully matched. For multi-LED displays, while light is produced as it is on your laptop and CRT screens. The display is made of multiple discrete red, green and blue LEDs which can then be used to produce any color, including white - if viewed from a far enough away. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 14:55:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: Easy questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I want to install Maxdos, but I seem to be doing something wrong. I get an error "not enough memory or disk space for memory swap." I have set the temp variable to my a: drive where I have 20 Mb free space. I try to follow the instructions in the maxdos.doc file but some steps are not clear( I have a spanish Hp 200lx) and therefore some things are harder to follow. I have another question. How can I make the Hp defaulto to A:_DAT instead of C:_DAT? I know I read about this somewhere but I can't find it. Thanks in advance, Inigo PD: I am using a 32 Mb Verbatim Compact flash and it works very well. It is a very cheap flash card compared to Sandisk. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:03:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > PS. Anyone happen to have an icon that looks like it has something to do = > with the weather? Maybe a sun and clouds or isobars or something? The cat = > or whatever it is doesn't really look all that appropriate. :o) > I think it's a cougar (HP's code name for the 100LX in which it originally appeared), though someone else has suggested that it's a puma (for the makers of the Intellisync program. For icons, take a look at the 1,000 or so on the S.U.P.E.R. Icon Server at: http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/supericons If you don't find one you like, let me know and maybe I can whip you up something... Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:23:01 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: sponsor@ftel.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <<..and so I am saying goodbye now, before this becomes a problem. >> Avi-- We appreciate what you have done for countless users. You're a pillar of the community. Don't let the Ý*!#@!¨ get to you. Hang with us. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:24:26 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Avi, thanks for all your help and humour over the years. I'm sad to see you go, and I'm sure everyone else will feel the same. Best wishes...Roger ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:57:36 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Outta here ... Well, I certainly hope you kids are happy! > and so I am saying goodbye now, before this becomes a problem. > > Best regards, > > Avi > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:16:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is kinda funny. Avi "stirred the pot" as much as anyone in that exchange. Now he skulks away like he's got hurt feelings. I'll bet he hasn't signed off and he's lurking, like Tom Sawyer at his own funeral. Well, I guess you're worth grovelling for Avi. Please come back, oh please... d;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:57 PM Subject: Re: Outta here ... > Well, I certainly hope you kids are happy! > > > and so I am saying goodbye now, before this becomes a problem. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Avi > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:21:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick West Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick West Subject: Re: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes Comments: To: lfast@NATIVELAW.COM In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Lawrence Fast wrote: > I have XTNDConnect and an old copy of Schedule+. > However I cannot find a > copy of IntelliSync anywhere. Puma is no longer > selling or supporting > IntelliSync for the 200LX. I have copies of > Intellilink and Palm Connect > from my Win 3.1 days but neither works on either > WinNT or Win98SE. I can't get Intellisync to work on my Win95 or WinNT platforms. Have not tried Win2000 or WinME. However Intellilink works well for me. I use the hplx file on disk setting and copy to files from the palmtop to desktop using another method. Then I run them into Schedule+ and Lotus Org. 2.1 and then use Intellisync for the Palm Pilot to send the data to my palm Pilot. I don't have a current version of Notes so haven't played with notes. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:20:13 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Is there any way of getting a batch file > to check what time it is being run > and then act accordingly? I'm not sure this will help but might it be easier to schedule batch files to run when you want them to? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:24:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Misquoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ken London wrote: > > If i'm going to be slammed then I expect > apologies for the dozens of times I've > been misquoted. I apologize for the dozens of times you've been misquoted. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:57:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A Meshar wrote: > > AA refers to size, not voltage. Size matters. I thought that was settled in Godzilla. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:03:25 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bill Childers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Childers Subject: Re: SUPER? Comments: To: Ed Padin In-Reply-To: <200102191757.f1JHv4R37986@winery.garlic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hm -- something I need to look into, too -- I'm the secondary DNS for palmtop net (the NS.SOUTHVALLEYCONSULTING.COM you see there.) -- Bill On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > Hmmm... a query into their name record shows the output below. I guess Mitch > and Dave are rearranging stuff... > > BTW: It looks like the NS.HPLX.ORG name server is on a cable modem (at > Dave's house?). Maybe Dave made a mistake? > > > > The Palmtop Network (PALMTOP2-DOM) > 7652 Wethersfield Drive > West Chester, OH 45069 US > > Domain Name: PALMTOP.NET > > Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: > Sargeant, David (DS14475) david@HPLX.ORG > PIC > 550 Wyoming Street > Boulder City, NV 89005 > 702-293-9505 (FAX) 702-293-9505 > Billing Contact: > Hamm, Mitchell B (MH1878) mitch@PALMTOP.NET > The Palmtop Network > 7652 Wethersfield Dr > 7652 Wethersfield Dr > West Chester, OH 45069 > 513-860-3438 (FAX) 801-881-1118 > > Record last updated on 17-Feb-2001. > Record expires on 21-Nov-2001. > Record created on 20-Nov-1996. > Database last updated on 19-Feb-2001 10:23:07 EST. > > Domain servers in listed order: > > NS.HPLX.ORG 24.234.48.11 > SOUTHVALLEYCONSULTING.COM 216.139.14.27 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Theodore Heise" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:54 AM > Subject: SUPER? > > > > What happened to the SUPER site? When I try to load www.palmtop.net > > I end up getting HPLX.net. > > > > Ted > > > > -- > > Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA > > PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt > > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:20:51 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: PCMCIA DIsks, Hard Drives and Processors are Available. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Tom Salwasser wrote: > > Scott. the horror stories from people dealing > with you are well documented on this list. I > appreciate being warned about vendors whose > policies I disagree with so I feel it's my duty to > do the same for others. I say again, your prices > are great but buyer beware. This is absolutely none of my business so if I'm told to butt out, I will. I was part of the discussion over Scott's failure to replace that Zip drive. I and several others posted suggestions that we thought Scott should post the exact conditions of the sale. I guess we were all disapointed over the way that issue with the Zip drive was resolved, or not resolved. But Scott has done what we suggested he do and begun posting the exact conditions. So any one buying from him knows, or should know if he reads the entire post, what he's getting into. As I see it, any issues that aren't covered in Scott's statement have never been problems. I'm not trying to defend Scott. I still think he was wrong in that other transaction because the purchaser rightfully expected terms other than what Scott intended and Scott didn't meet those rather normal expectations. But Scott has dealt with that issue for the future. It's all there in black and white now. And he has had a lot of satisfied customers over a long period. I'm not sure I want to do business with him. But I wouldn't preclude it. If he had what I really wanted at a very good price I'd consider buying from him. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:30:19 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 16 Feb 2001 to 17 Feb 2001 (#2001-69) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I realise it's a bit of additional work to add it > if you recieve the list in digest mode, but I > think it would be appreciated. I did say that if it bothered anyone I would begin to use names when I can. And it's not enough extra trouble to matter. All the votes seem to be with you on this so I'll start using names. I'm always willing to be graceous to dunderheads who need that extra help. Barry P.S. I just used my spelling checker and it accepted dunderheads. Impressive! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:35:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Misquoting Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > Ken London wrote: > > > > If i'm going to be slammed then I expect > > apologies for the dozens of times I've > > been misquoted. > > I apologize for the dozens of times you've been misquoted. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Apology accepted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:36:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Quoting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Longden Loo wrote: > > As with Barry (and yes Barry, you do) I've > chosen to generally leave off the author > name of the previous post, I used to. :) > Abraham Lincoln posted: > > I myself, HATE being misquoted. I'm not fond of it, myself, Abe. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:51:45 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Report of WordPerfect F-key Solutions and TSRs (Long) Comments: cc: lodger@nz1.ibm.com, andrew@lovell-info.se, novosad@server030.fwb.saic.com, victor_roberts@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; FYI: A short time ago, (I believe it was Tuesday, Feb. 6, 2001?), I sent a message to the List requesting a TSR to show me the F-Key commands in WordPerfect 5.1+ for DOS, in order to help me remember them. Several listers suggested using F3, F3, Enter to look at the help screen that shows the F-Key template, and using the Alt key (or Alt+=) to use the menu but I found that too cumbersome. (Particularly, list member Andrew Lovell had some helpful suggestions, and list member Vic Roberts suggested trying SideKick - which I haven't gotten around to doing yet.) I attempted to write a WordPerfect macro that would do what I wanted, but to no avail - probably because I had no documentation for WP5.1+ macro commands. List member Stephan R. Novosad sent me some very nicely implemented macros and a WP file that showed the WP template in a WP Document 2 window at the bottom of the screen. Pretty slick, but not quite what I wanted. Also, list member Roger Whitmarsh sent me a file with a very small WP keyboard template to print out and place on my Palmtop. That worked exceptionally well once I reduced it to a size that it could fit on the palmtop just below the screen and right above the hinge -- but the font is 6 point Arial Narrow! Pretty tiny! (But it's still there on my Palmtop!) Finally, I decided to take the time and really look through all the search engine results and to try different search criteria as well. Well, lo and behold, I found what I was looking for! At http://sunsite.lanet.lv/ftp/simtelnet/msdos/wordperf/ I found: - wp51temp.zip : 3/08/90, 10715 bytes (Pop-up screen templates for WordPerfect 5.1) This implementation wasn't really what I was looking for, but might be the best one since it is configurable for monochrome display and is fast and trouble-free. - wpfkeys5.zip : 8/05/89, 16644 bytes (TSR displays bottom line template for WP 5.0) This program sometimes causes the shift key to stick, but is more like what I was looking for, can be enabled and disabled and also includes C source code (for those who would like to fix the problems and make improvements, and maybe update it for WP5.1+ -- if anyone does any of these things, please let me know)! I'm sure one could find them again by entering the filenames as the search criteria, but if anyone wants me to send the files to them, just drop me a line and I'll be glad to do so! Many thanks to those list members who offered help and suggestions, especially Andrew Lovell, Vic Roberts, Stephan R. Novosad, and Roger Whitmarsh. What a great resource we have in this list and the Internet at large -- I am (for the most part) a happy and satisfied customer! And: Long live WordPerfect! Regards, Richard Smith P.S. I apologize for the length of this message -- Richard & Patti Smith Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:00:10 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Outta here ... In-Reply-To: <000801c09aca$0c72df20$3686c0d8@tvs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Tom Salwasser wrote: > This is kinda funny. Avi "stirred the pot" as much as anyone in that Hardly funny. It's a shame that one of the few people left who actively support the LX gets so fed up with the list that they leave. > exchange. Now he skulks away like he's got hurt feelings. I'll bet > he hasn't signed off and he's lurking, like Tom Sawyer at his own I wouldn't bet on it. I imagine Avi gets pretty tired of answering the same questions over and over again just because someone didn't like his answer. In this latest exchange, how many times was he asked the same things? He gave an answer, and maybe that's all he wanted, or could give, or felt qualified to give. Maybe you weren't here for the threads on HV that Avi mentioned. Same thing. People asking over and over again if they would release a new version, make a few changes, release the code, blah blah blah... Avi had a nice quote, "There seems to some part of the word "no" that causes some misunderstanding and confusion, which is it? :)", yet people kept on. I wrote up a FAQ for HV and was going to post it, every question was just a rephrasing of the same question, with the answer No said in different ways. The thread finally died, so not wanting to stir it up again, I didn't post it. A few of the people on this list get pretty tiresome at times, and occasionally downright rude. Keeping a low profile, I'm seldom a target, but there are days recently where I just delete much of the list mail without reading it. I've thought about switching to Nomail and just reading the archives once in a while. Anyway, I hope Avi does reconsider. If not, sorry to see you go Avi, and kindest regards. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:37:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 18 Feb 2001 to 19 Feb 2001 - Special issue (#2001-71) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Victor Roberts wrote: > > I doubt they would be sent to jail > for an act of kindness that does not > also benefit the share holders. I'm not so sure of that. It's not their money to give away. While it might be very difficult to prove that a donation didn't benefit the shareholders in some way, if it could be proven (or stipulated) I would think that would qualify as mis-appropration of funds or breaking a fiduciary trust or some such. And rightly so. Fortunately it's almost automatic that shareholders derive some benefit from charitable donations. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:27:08 +0800 Reply-To: jimmytan@yeos.com.my Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: jimmytan@YEOS.COM.MY Subject: FLUFF: Red Planet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >If you are a colonist on Mars > {snip} > >Or would you rather "localize" your time? If so, what system/device/tool >localise, off course (who wants to be woken at odd hours? - said by ER >doctors on call) How should one "localize" his/her time? Write a clock program that ticks 25hrs a day? Hmm.. sounds like an interesting weekend programming project. > >are you going to use to track your appointments in local Martian time? >it will take another 20 years till we start living there - who thinks the >LX will still be around then? Depends on how many people from the LX community who would still be around then, and that they have *still not found* anything else that can replace their trusty companion. > >Casually dressed while standing in line for a commercial flight to > >Mars with 200LX on one hand and a copy of "MARS TODAY" on the other >ok, who sold you to the idea? if Carl Sagan, write to me off-list No, not really. I once saw a cartoon of guy in his apartment on Mars. He was having breakfast with his morning copy of MARS TODAY and the headlines read "WEST BANK: PEACE TALK FAILS". >Nathalie... > my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - > is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent I can relate to that. Not only do bills sneak up on me, my stomach frequently reminds me that it's way past feeding time. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:57:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hardly funny. It's a shame that one of the few people left who > actively support the LX gets so fed up with the list that they > leave. I don't believe this is entirely true. The responsibility is a much ours to not get fed up with him as it is his to not get fed up with us. It's a two way street, always. > I wouldn't bet on it. I imagine Avi gets pretty tired of > answering the same questions over and over again just because > someone didn't like his answer. In this latest exchange, how > many times was he asked the same things? He gave an answer, and > maybe that's all he wanted, or could give, or felt qualified to > give. Possible, but he often answers in a way that feels like he knows more than he says, prompting people to ask more questions. > Maybe you weren't here for the threads on HV that Avi mentioned. > Same thing. People asking over and over again if they would > release a new version, make a few changes, release the code, > blah blah blah... Avi had a nice quote, "There seems to some > part of the word "no" that causes some misunderstanding and > confusion, which is it? :)", yet people kept on. I wrote up a > FAQ for HV and was going to post it, every question was just a > rephrasing of the same question, with the answer No said in > different ways. The thread finally died, so not wanting to stir > it up again, I didn't post it. Many people ask questions because they care and because they are genuinely interested, not because they want to cause trouble. When someone gets involved in a discussion, that person should assume that they can end up stirring the pot and may very well have to hear -- and possibly answer -- questions and (constructive or not) criticism again and again as the discussion evolves and people join or exit the discussion. This is the nature of discussions. The only way to avoid this completely is to NOT get involved -- especially if this is a hot topic. As they say "If you can't stand the heat..." But Avi is really is really good at technical discussions, which is at the heart of this list. So why not stick to that if that's the safe route? > A few of the people on this list get pretty tiresome at times, > and occasionally downright rude. Keeping a low profile, I'm > seldom a target, but there are days recently where I just delete > much of the list mail without reading it. I've thought about > switching to Nomail and just reading the archives once in a > while. I do the same (deleting mail). That's an entirely personal choice that is no better and no worse than any other. Thanks, Philippe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:28:46 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tim Kelley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Kelley Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at the point of being outta here yesterday too, upon receiving the seemingly never ending exchange on quoting or selling disks etc. Gosh I was about to scream, and I pretty much look on in this group and am not so involved as Avi is. I just think we should focus on the purpose of the list and pursue getting the most life out of the 200lx as we can these days. After all lets face it, as time marches on the 200 lx gets less and less compatible, with a pcmcia requiring low power cards and special drivers. We cant do wireless lan for these reasons. Also we cant sync from the outlook calendar to the 200lx either. Anyway i am just saying perhaps we should expend our energies keeping the 200lx up to date than squabbling over semantics etc. Thanks! Tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 03:36:30 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Windows XP Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I also heard that Windows XP will check to see if your music is legally > licensed, I was thinking about this after it was posted last week. While I would not put it past MS to become the policeman of all things software-legal (following the lead of their home country in deciding who can own weapons and who can't), how is MS going to tell the difference between a wav file recorded by a band in a garage and one recorded from another cd!!!! In addition, "hackers" will find a way anyway! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 03:36:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Assigning a DOS batch file to a Fn key. Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <<> the f-key on it's own? After all, the only f-key that does anything on the topcard is f1. Also, is there any way of assigning a string of keystrokes > to an f-key in DOS?>> You need Ansi.sys or one of its equivalents. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:03:02 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: Re: accessory cradle? Comments: To: qman@EARTHLINK.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject:Accessories for sale Date:Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:00:00 +0000 From:Qman Hey All, I have the following items for sale, shipping included: HP Palmtop accessory cradle, complete with serial cable & AC adapter ( I used it as a docking station) $40.00 Qman I'm interested in the accessory cradle. Refresh my memory, what does it supply? I have this vauge sense that I need it but don't know why... -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:43:14 -0500 Reply-To: theise@netins.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: cc: sponsor@ftel.net A Meshar writes: > Thank you all for the good knowledge and sharing you provided > to me here. I am particularly fond of the tips and tricks > posted to make the Palmtop better and stronger. Avi, thanks for your participation here. I will miss you. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:11:21 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lamaide@JUNO.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John LaMaide Subject: Re: CF Disks, Available Comments: To: tps-seti@WANADOO.FR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_3e9f.0181.153e This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_3e9f.0181.153e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: WTB used CF - any size I have Ten 8 Meg CompactFlash memory cards. NO adapters. Made by Silicon Storage Technology (CENTRON brand name). I will sell for $20 US, plus shipping and handling. And I see no reason not to ship to France. John, N9PHX ----__JNP_000_3e9f.0181.153e Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Nathalie Bugeaud wrote:
WTB used CF - any size
 
I have Ten  8 Meg CompactFlash  memory cards. NO adapters.
Made by Silicon Storage Technology  (CENTRON brand name).
I will sell for $20 US, plus shipping and handling.
 
And I see no reason not to ship to France.
 
John, N9PHX
----__JNP_000_3e9f.0181.153e-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:19:56 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: OT/Fluffy: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > bomber he was sitting in was the 'Enola Gay'. I worked with an 'enola gay.' Her father had an ironic sense of humor, I guess! He was a pilot. > > The show is like a Science History version of 'Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon'. > That guy has a column in 'Scientific American' now but I like his narration > better than his writing. I think his name is James Burke, an MIT guy (or > maybe Oxford... he's a Brit). There's another good show with this little old > guy named phillip morrison. I'm a big fan of documentary TV. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:20:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > "F. Kaufman" wrote: > > > I really see no point in this list discussing accounting practices > > > or legal issues regarding why corporations do what they do > > > with their old software. It is arcane and pointless. Work > > > on the corporations if you wish but stop working over each other. > > It is not pointless....many of us have a 200lx that is still in use..... > as long as the device is in use we will need software. And many > of these 200lxs will remain in use because the alternatives suck. Ken, we are not going to solve or figure out their legal issues. Lobby away at the corporations but folks are picking on each other. That is pointless. > Many of us will probably die still grasping onto our 200lxs. As I have > said many times....newer is not always better. I don't disagree. I disagree with the redundant and pointless discussion. They own the software and it does not matter whether they go to jail if they give it away or don't go to jail. Or whether it is fully depreciated or not. This group can't change those facts. And jumping on each other is tiresome to watch (read) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:58:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: OT/Fluffy: 1.2V AA batteries? >> the old PBS program "Connections." Fascinating stuff, really. Message-Id: <20010220045847.OCOY7519.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.244¨> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:58:52 +0000 >That show is great. I especially liked the episode where he started >the show in the cockpit of an American B-17 bomber. He started >talking about some old technology (totally unrelated to bombers) >that eventually led to Rutherford's explorations with particle >trails in cloud chambers. This eventually led to the Quantum >Mechanics. At the end of the show we see the bomber he was sitting >in was the 'Enola Gay'. Then of course, it couldn't have been the same bomber as the start of the show ... Enola Gay was a B-29. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:58:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Easy questions >I want to install Maxdos, but I seem to be doing >something wrong. I get an error "not enough memory or >disk space for memory swap." I have set the temp >variable to my a: drive where I have 20 Mb free space. Message-Id: <20010220045854.OCSV7519.mtiwmhc27.worldnet.att.net@Ý12.72.154.244¨> Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:58:58 +0000 It'd be easier if you posted your maxdos invocation line in your autoexec.bat. It sounds like it's supposed to be something like: maxdos -L -Wa:\ >I have another question. How can I make the Hp >defaulto to A:_DAT instead of C:_DAT? I know I read >about this somewhere but I can't find it. Others can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe c:\_dat is required for all the .env and other configuration files. Your data files (such as appt.adb) normally default to c:\_dat also, but if you create one on a:\_dat and open it there from Appt, it'll continue to use that one ... same with phone.pdb and notes.ndb. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:28:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Kelley wrote: > Anyway i am just saying perhaps we should expend our energies keeping the > 200lx up to date than squabbling over semantics etc. I agree 100%. In the spirit of the "group project" discussed a while back, why not focus on exploiting the advantages of the platform to keep it a viable, useful tool that is better than the alternatives out there, even as the 200LX ages in comparison to its competition? For example, 200LX databases of useful information, 123 templates to do useful tasks, etc. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 00:26:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew King Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew King Subject: How to read Ace "doublecard" RAM card with WIN98se MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all I have been backing up my PIM files from my 200LX to my Omnibook 425 using an ACE "doublecard" RAM card to do the transfer. It says "4M" but chkdsk reports 2 meg so it's not using the ACE compression. Now I want to read the card with my thinkpad 560X but it recognizes the card as a REX card and won't assign a drive letter. So the question is in all the STUFF (I'm being polite) that comes with WIN98 is there a driver that will recognize the card or do I need to import a driver? Thanks -- Andrew King Ann Arbor Michigan technology is the answer, what was the question? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:48:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick west Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick west Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Thanks for all the good advice. I still haven't made up my mind but I'm leaning towards: USB External Readers/Writers: PSI FlashReader (model PSIUISA2) external 2-slot USB reader/writer for type I or II ATA + SmartMedia + compact flash* + IBM microdrive* cards + Sony memory sticks* (*needs PCMCIA adapter) Win 95R2/98/ME/2000 & Mac, 12Mbits/sec, $67 plus shipping. Patrick _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:47:33 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alban Pearce Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce Subject: Wanted HP connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Has anybody got a connectivity pack for the hp200lx for sale ??? I dont need the serial Lead, I just need the software ... I Need to Run My GDB Files on my pc ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:24:05 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Brown, William" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Brown, William" Subject: Re: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Ulrich, Perhaps you could have it loaded on SUPER so when others need it in years to come it is easy to find? William D.Ll.Brown ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:53:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: WordStar 5.5 questions.... Comments: To: Tim MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:47:59 -0600, Tim wrote: > > Does WS 5.5 run in DOS and on the LX? Yes, it is a DOS program, but I don't know if it will run on a CGA screen. If it does, it will be rather slow. I run WS 4 on my LX. It works fine, except for one "small" problem. If you have WS and your data files on A:, if you shut down the LX while editing a file, WS will not let you complete the edit. Apparently WS keeps the data files open, and the connection to the Flash card is lost when the LX goes to sleep. This is not a problem if the data file is on C: > and > > Does anyone know where I could get a copy? No. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:52:55 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: Re: Volt-amp limit for LEDs / LED light for HP200LX Comments: To: Teo Soon Bock MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:23:38 +0800, Teo Soon Bock wrote: > > What is the maximum volt/current that LEDs will take before they blow. Is > there any site that has information on specs and ratings for LEDs ? LEDs are operated at a rated current. The LED will set the voltage. Each LED manufacturer lists the rated current for their LED in their specification sheets. These can usually be found on the manufacturer's Web sites. You can operate LEDs above their rated currents, but that reduces their life. Above a certain current, LED light output will actually decrease due to the fact that the LED is overheated. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:08:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , ronburnett@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ron Burnett Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? Comments: To: John J Vanderstel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time it is = being > run =3D > >and then act accordingly? > This answers the requests for time & date in a batch file. Go here for links on batch utilities: http://www.theusefulsite.com/dos_links.htm Go here: http://www.bookcase.com/library/software/msdos.util.batch.html Look down the list for DATEL1, DATES, FDATE91C I haven't had a chance to look at these, but I suspect that FDATE91C is a version of fdate, which will, among other things, put the current date in = an environment variable, and if you're short on time, this is your best bet. Fdate also appears to handle time as well as date. You might also find fdate on the SUPER site. Ron --------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Ron Burnett ... representing Nutramerica(TM) Blood-specific weight loss & multivitamin products & more. http://www.upfrontnutrition.com e-mail: ronburnett@compuserve.com http://store.nutramerica.com/ronburnett Nutramerica ID = #383014 Conference call, Monday night, 9:00 eastern time: 918-222-7004, pin = #6554 4.9 cents/min. LONG DISTANCE NJ/NYC area ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:28:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , victor_roberts@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Victor Roberts Subject: More about abandonware Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:37:32 -0600, Barry wrote: > > > Victor Roberts wrote: > > > > I doubt they would be sent to jail > > for an act of kindness that does not > > also benefit the share holders. > > I'm not so sure of that. It's not their money to give away. > While it might be very difficult to prove that a donation didn't > benefit the shareholders in some way, if it could be proven (or > stipulated) I would think that would qualify as mis-appropration > of funds or breaking a fiduciary trust or some such. And > rightly so. It is interesting how you manage to misquote me by leaving out part of what I said. Also - it would be helpful if you managed to use the correct subject, which I think was "More about abandonware". And, in line with Fred's message, I will not post any more messages on this subject. We have said more than there is to say about this topic. Vic Roberts ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:44:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: Windows XP Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET In-Reply-To: <20010220033627.HMLB2429.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@worldne t.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi That is what Linux is for. Regards Andrew > >In addition, "hackers" will find a way anyway! > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:12:33 -0600 Reply-To: cwbrad@attglobal.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Charles W. Bradley" Subject: Re: Sidekick Comments: To: Andrew Lovell In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.20010219180836.43472ca0@pop.algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 19 Feb 2001, at 17:24, Andrew Lovell wrote: > How does one get hold of a DOS version of Sidekick? Hi, I am sure that I have a copy somewhere. Can you handle a 5 1/4" diskette if I can't find a way to copy it off? Charles ----------------------------------------------------------- Charles Bradley Hopewell Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Union Grove Presbyterian Church, Columbia, TN Emmanuel Presbyterian Chapel, Hohenwald, TN http://www.usit.com/hopewell/ "Let Thy works praise Thee, that we may love Thee; and let us love Thee, that Thy works may praise Thee." Aurelius Augustine cwbrad@attglobal.net FAX (931)840-0679 ----------------------------------------------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:49:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tom Sugarman Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Sugarman Subject: tech question: connectivity pack and Win98 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone help me configure the connectivity pack to work on windows 98. I have it working fine on win95. But on win 98 I cannot get a connection made. I do not think it is hardware becasue I am able to use transfile win200 without difficulty on the win 98 machine. Thanks ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:15:39 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Wanted HP connectivity Pack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Hi Has anybody got a connectivity pack > for the hp200lx for sale ??? > I dont need the serial Lead, I just need the software ... > I Need to Run My GDB Files on my pc ... If you can't find it 2nd hand, there's always here -> http://www.palmtoppaper.com/cgi-bin/shop.plx/SID=PUT_SID_HERE/page=connect.htm but it probably includes all the bells and whistles. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:19:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Bel, Michel" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Bel, Michel" Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Patrick West wrote: -----Original Message----- From: Patrick west Ýmailto:francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM¨ Sent: 20 February 2001 06:48 To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader Folks, Thanks for all the good advice. I still haven't made up my mind but I'm leaning towards: Patrick, as far as I can see the ISA and PCI versions on that page are rebadged SCM Swapboxes. I use an ISA one I recently bought cheaply, and it works with most everything on W98. Not only ATA and flash, but also modems, network cards, SCSI etc. ( older SRAM needs some config.sys editing under W98 ) On Ebay you can pick up ISA swapboxes for about 20 dollars, just search for 'swapbox'- Consolidated Surplus has an ISA and a PCI now there for $14.99 startbid. They are very standard, and if you have an ISA slot left they are the best buy. Also, SCM will send you any required software upgrades for free, as I found out recently. Michel ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:37:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rich & Cel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rich & Cel Subject: Programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone walk me through the first steps on programming (making programs for) the HP200LX ? I have an Avatar Shark that I would like to connect to the HP using the Shark's PCMCIA interface card. Presumably all I need is a driver for the HP platform that will read and write to the Shark. I've programmed before (in the far distant past whilst in University) and would like to take it up again, however I don't know if I should start by learning Borland C (that I sometimes see quoted on this mailing list) or by learning Developer's guide from the HP Palmtop paper. Rich ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:49:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: LEDs and the LX backup battery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << You are correct that there are no true white LEDs. The white coating on the LED you have is a phosphor, similar to that used on fluorescent lamps, that converts the blue and near-UV light produced by the LED into a red-green light. When combined with the blue light from the LED, the red-green light produced by the phosphor makes white light. >> Thanks for the clarification Vic. The subtleties of the physics always escapes me. One of these days when I retire (about 20 years or so), I'd like to drill some holes in my LX keyboard and imbed an LED (or two) somewhere in the middle of the keyboard (or on the perihery), aimed at the screen, and jury-rig a mechanical switch to the backup battery. Doggone it, that backup battery can be put to better use than it currently is .... and besides, the LED would be a good indicator on replacing the battery. The backup battery is an anachronism for the days when flash memory was either unavailable or too expensive. With the advent of cheap flash storage, a good nightly backup strategy, excellent battery management software, and high capacity NiMH cells, there's no reason to depend entirely on the backup battery. Just make sure it's working (or plugged into AC) when changing the AAs (and with NiMH, I do that once in a blue moon). This of course, from the person who can't solder . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:51:08 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: tech question: connectivity pack and Win98 problems Comments: To: Tom Sugarman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Sugarman To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 02:49 PM Subject: tech question: connectivity pack and Win98 problems > Can someone help me configure the connectivity pack to work on windows 98. Try all or some of the following, which worked for me at one moment or another: - When I first installed the connectivity pack, the installation program detected connection on Com1, which was correct. When actually trying to connect, I had to change the physical connection to com2, as well as the settings (Anyone knows why?) -At first I do not get a connection. Go to Menu, Communications, REmote Settings. Make no changes. OK. Try again. That 's how it works with me, reliably. At least one other list member experienced the same symptoms.( Anyone knows why?...) - When using a wireless mouse on my desktop, the Connectivity Pack stopped working, it interfered with the com ports. From the archives, the following solved the problem: ...... I work as a beta tester for remote backup software and we learned a trick relating to that. To force Windows to release it's serial ports we include the following additional lines under the heading "Ý386Enh¨" in the system.ini file in the windows directory: ComBoostTime=5 Com1AutoAssign=2 Com2AutoAssign=2 Com3AutoAssign=2 Com4AutoAssign=2 Com1FIFO=1 Com2FIFO=1 Com3FIFO=1 Com4FIFO=1 ......... -and: ....... I run CPACK200 under Win98. I have found that I get much more reliable connections if I have it run in MS-DOS mode. To do this, right-click on the CPACK icon and select Properties. The select Program and Advanced and check the box for MSDOS mode. Now click OK and try it out. ........ HTH Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:53:03 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: 1.2V AA batteries? In-Reply-To: <002101c09ad8$249daae0$6ffe36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:57:47 -0600 Barry a =E9crit: > Size matters. >=20 > I thought that was settled in Godzilla. Size don't matters. This was settled by David. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:56:16 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader In-Reply-To: <1E89D877173CD311B9510008C75D97B2034551D3@nlehx021.ehvvan.nl.origin-it.com> from "Bel, Michel" at Feb 20, 2001 03:19:47 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Patrick, as far as I can see the ISA and PCI versions on that page are > rebadged SCM Swapboxes. I use an ISA one I recently bought cheaply, and it > works with most everything on W98. Not only ATA and flash, but also modems, > network cards, SCSI etc. ( older SRAM needs some config.sys editing under > W98 ) > On Ebay you can pick up ISA swapboxes for about 20 dollars, just search for > 'swapbox'- Consolidated Surplus has an ISA and a PCI now there for $14.99 > startbid. They are very standard, and if you have an ISA slot left they are > the best buy. Also, SCM will send you any required software upgrades for > free, as I found out recently. Let me add a word of caution about the PCI version of the SCM swapbox. I, too, had an ISA version and used it successfully with many devices. I upgraded my computer, unfortunately, to one with no ISA slots. Since I was so happy with their ISA version, I bought the PCI version. After determining it was a complete new design, even the cradle is different. But I could not get the new one to work with any disk but a SanDisk, and even then it is occassional and slow. I was very patient with the distributor (Envoy), but they basically said I had to deal with each different PCMCIA card mfr whose caed didn't work. I was not that patient, and have given up. They then wanted a 15% re-stocking fee, and I got so angry I just quit dealing with the guy. So I have an intermittent, slow PCI solution that reads only Sandisk cards. Be warned that the PCI version is VERY different from the ISA one. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:04:13 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "R.S." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "R.S." Subject: Re: Wanted HP connectivity Pack Comments: To: Alban Pearce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alban, If you only need to run GDB files, try use GDBwin. you can download it from SUPER - Database. http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/search.pl?Cat=Database To transfer the files you can use ZIP.com also can be found in SUPER http://www.palmtop.net/cgi-bin/search.pl?Cat=Connectivity Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Alban Pearce To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Wanted HP connectivity Pack > Hi Has anybody got a connectivity pack > for the hp200lx for sale ??? > I dont need the serial Lead, I just need the software ... > I Need to Run My GDB Files on my pc ... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:17:55 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes Comments: To: "Brown, William" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Tuesday, 20.02.2001 at 09:24 GMT, Brown, William wrote: > Ulrich, > > Perhaps you could have it loaded on SUPER so when others need it in years to > come it is easy to find? > I could but the problem is I'm no longer using it myself, I use the calendar on my WorkPad (Palm Pilot Vx). If the program stops working due to some change in a new Lotus Notes release I wouldn't find out and I couldn't even test and debug the problem. Therefore, I'd prefer to leave it as is. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:34:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: More about abandonware Comments: To: Victor Roberts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, first, I receive the digest and I have to remember to change the subjects manually. I do try to do that but sometimes I forget. Especially late at night. Second, I quoted the part of what you said that I was responding to. The rest would have just taken up more space. And I can't see where doing that changed the meaning of what I quoted. But, obviously, you do see a difference. I had no intention of changing anything. I was simply trying to respond to something you said that caught my attention. If I got it wrong, I apologize. Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor Roberts" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:28 AM Subject: More about abandonware > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:37:32 -0600, Barry wrote: > > > > > Victor Roberts wrote: > > > > > > I doubt they would be sent to jail > > > for an act of kindness that does not > > > also benefit the share holders. > > > > I'm not so sure of that. It's not their money to give away. > > While it might be very difficult to prove that a donation didn't > > benefit the shareholders in some way, if it could be proven (or > > stipulated) I would think that would qualify as mis-appropration > > of funds or breaking a fiduciary trust or some such. And > > rightly so. > > It is interesting how you manage to misquote me by leaving out > part of what I said. > > Also - it would be helpful if you managed to use the correct > subject, which I think was "More about abandonware". > > And, in line with Fred's message, I will not post any more > messages on this subject. We have said more than there is to > say about this topic. > > Vic Roberts > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:26:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Authentication News Servers and post LX Hi, I have a news server that requires authentication. Has anyone gotten that working with post/lx? thx. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:54:20 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: MSN email Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 14:01:21 -0800, A Meshar wrote: > I do not have thoughts about MSN. They may have some > requirement in the MS-CHAP which may make it just dissimilar > enough from CHAP to fail... My recommendation is to tell them, > and/or leave the service. There are som many hundreds of good, > internet comliant service, that I am not sure about the > attraction to a proprietary service. Here in Germany there is also an ISP called MSN. It is a call-by-call ISP which doesn't require any registration. You simply log in with WWW/LX PAP/CHAP login procedure, dialling number 01088-0192658, username: msn, password: msn. No problems at all (besides the usual problems getting a connection in rush hours, but every other ISP also suffers from this problem here). It costs 2.9pf/min (that is about 0.015 US$/min). That's a usual fee these days in Germany. I don't know what this MSN exactly has to do with the "actual" MSN. GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:54:22 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: Re: Does Goin' Postal support printing? Comments: To: Larry Tachna MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:15:10 -0500, Larry Tachna wrote: > no need to open the file just copy or type it out to the port from the > command prompt > > copy file.txt lpt1: What happens if you directly export it to the "file" lpt1: from Goin Postal? GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:09:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Hint for playing Golf Solitaire MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Golf solitaire hint If you have ever been frustrated by the low score you're getting on a deal in this game, you may have wondered if you could have done better. It is possible to find out. There is a hidden option that won't show you how to play better, but will tell you what the best possible score is for a given hand. While playing, if you press the 'A' key, it will begin exploring all the possible variations of play for a particular deal. You will need to know what to look for, as it may not appear to be doing anything. But look in the upper left corner of the screen, where it's counting down the number of cards left in the best play it's found so far. The program spends all its time trying new iterations, so it stops updating the clock. Be patient. It may take over a million different variations to explore all the possibilities. If you press any key before it has finished, it will display the number of iterations tried on the left side of the screen, below the count on the best play found so far. It also overwrites the cards displayed with the resulting order after the last iteration it has tried. Remember, while it's thinking you cannot even quit the game. It's not something you will always want to use. (I have Software Carousel, so I can always switch to another session.) On my double speed 200LX it seems to process around 225 iterations each second on some involved deals. It can be tied up for quite a long time on some of these deals. So, to summarize: Press 'A' and wait for the clock to start updating again before you try to resume play Look in the upper left hand corner for the lowest number of cards left ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:30:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: SUPER? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Where is SUPER located now? We all know that Mitch (used to?) run SUPER; from his home I think. Is it still there? Has it moved somewhere else? Who 'owns' SUPER now? Who do we have to thank for providing one of the most important LX accessories? Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:30:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Meshar wrote: > Thank you all for the good knowledge and sharing you provided > to me here. I am particularly fond of the tips and tricks > posted to make the Palmtop better and stronger. > > Also special to me was the discussion and discernible movement > on abandonware. This community seems to truly want to deal .... Avi, If you're leaving the never ending abandonware discussion I don't blame you. If you're leaving the HPLX-L list then I hope you'll reconsider. For entirely selfish reasons I hate to see gou go, you're an important LX asset and your presence on the list is valuable to me personally and all LXers collectively. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:40:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Owen H. Morgan wrote: > What I want to do is have the batch file check what time it is. If it is = > before 05:00 I want it to assign "06:15" to %1. If the time is between = > 05:00 and 07:20, I want %1 to be set to "11:50" and if it's between 07:20 = > and 22:05 I want %1 to be 22:30. Well, here is a small program that puts the DOS time of day, converted into the equivalent number of quarter hours, into the exit return code. You can then use the DOS batch command IF to test it against ERRORLEVEL. For your example, give or take... REM Before 5:00? IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 20 GOTO FIRST REM Before 7:15? IF NOT ERRORLEVEL 29 GOTO SECOND Steve begin 644 timechk.com 6M"S-(3/`BL&Q#_;PT.70Y0+%M$S-(0`` ` end ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 14:42:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Wanted HP connectivity Pack Comments: To: Alban Pearce MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I have one I could sell for $40 + shipping! Thanks, Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alban Pearce" To: Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:47 PM Subject: Wanted HP connectivity Pack > Hi Has anybody got a connectivity pack > for the hp200lx for sale ??? > I dont need the serial Lead, I just need the software ... > I Need to Run My GDB Files on my pc ... > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:23:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:26:23 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > Hi, > > I have a news server that requires authentication. Has anyone gotten that > working with post/lx? Hellu I use the latest version of Post/Lx and therefore have this in Robot.cfg: ÝNews1¨ Server=news.cis.dfn.de Login=Removed Password=Removed Ýnews.cis.dfn.de¨ Then a lot of groups and stuff.. The login/password is global for all the groups in news.cis.dfn.de. Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:17:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX I feel silly. that was an easy one. You can specify the news server and login info when you create the newsgroup entry. Here's another one. How do I get post/lx to only retrieve newgroup headers first and then grab selected message bodies later (it does this with email). thanks. BTW: I'm using version 2 without robot/lx. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Bergvill" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:23 PM Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:26:23 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have a news server that requires authentication. Has anyone gotten that > > working with post/lx? > > Hellu > > I use the latest version of Post/Lx and therefore have this in > Robot.cfg: > > ÝNews1¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 00:54:20 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ron Burnett wrote: > > >Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time it is being > > run = > > >and then act accordingly? > http://www.bookcase.com/library/software/msdos.util.batch.html At the above site look for CHKTD15 which is a zip holding CHECKTD.EXE. According the help your bat file calls this pgm specifiing date and/or time arguments. The pgm sets the return code to indicate the argument timestamp is before or equal to or after 'now'. Considering the programming limitations imposed by BAT files I think this sort of logic is going to be the best a BAT file can find. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 17:17:26 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Patrick west Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Patrick west Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader Comments: To: "Bel, Michel" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks I check into it. "Bel, Michel" wrote: > > Patrick West wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick west Ýmailto:francis_patrick_west@YAHOO.COM¨ > Sent: 20 February 2001 06:48 > To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu > Subject: Re: pcmcia desktop card reader > > Folks, > > Thanks for all the good advice. I still haven't > made up my mind but I'm leaning towards: > > > > > > Patrick, as far as I can see the ISA and PCI versions on that page are > rebadged SCM Swapboxes. I use an ISA one I recently bought cheaply, and it > works with most everything on W98. Not only ATA and flash, but also modems, > network cards, SCSI etc. ( older SRAM needs some config.sys editing under > W98 ) > On Ebay you can pick up ISA swapboxes for about 20 dollars, just search for > 'swapbox'- Consolidated Surplus has an ISA and a PCI now there for $14.99 > startbid. They are very standard, and if you have an ISA slot left they are > the best buy. Also, SCM will send you any required software upgrades for > free, as I found out recently. > > Michel > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 02:20:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: SUPER? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Russel Brooks wrote: > Where is SUPER located now? We all know that Mitch (used to?) > run SUPER; from his home I think. Is it still there? Has it > moved somewhere else? Who 'owns' SUPER now? Who do we have to > thank for providing one of the most important LX accessories? palmtop.net used to be hosted own Mitch's own Linux box, but since Feb/Mar 2000 it was been hosted at an ISP instead. Now it is hosted by David Sargeant on the same server as hplx.net. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 21:23:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Programming Comments: To: Rich & Cel In-Reply-To: <004a01c09b4a$a624f920$d694e8d8@bc.hsia.telus.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>like to take it up again, however I don't know if I should start >>by learning >>Borland C (that I sometimes see quoted on this mailing list) or >>by learning >>Developer's guide from the HP Palmtop paper. you'll need to learn/relearn and be comfortable with c to start with ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:21:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Easy questions Comments: To: lloo@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >I have another question. How can I make the Hp > >defaulto to A:_DAT instead of C:_DAT? I know I read > >about this somewhere but I can't find it. > > Others can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I believe c:\_dat is > required for all the .env and other configuration files. Your data files > (such as appt.adb) normally default to c:\_dat also, but if you create one > on a:\_dat and open it there from Appt, it'll continue to use that one ... > same with phone.pdb and notes.ndb. The only issue is that if the hp crashes (rarely), then you might find an "empty" phone/appt/whatever since the hp will recreate the c:\_dat startup version and an env file that points to the c: drive. So folks should go searching for their a: drive copies by opening them. But if the question was making a:\_dat the LEFT default column, it cannot be done except by a macro or manually. That's just the way hp designed it. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:21:13 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Hint for playing Golf Solitaire Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Golf solitaire hint CURTIS, you sly dog, you were holding out on us!!! (G) Thanks for the HINT! Golf is my lunchtime companion many a day! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:49:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: A Meshar MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I first joined the list a couple of years ago, I recall a piece of email supposedly sent my Avi throwing his hands up. Turned out the mail was actually forged by someone else. So here we go again! Nevertheless, too good to be true! With two fellows in the ship there is bound to be controversy. Aside from the cutesy comments above, your input carries significant weight. My delete key keeps me from wasting more time and stirring up more mud than I do. I too hope you reconsider and pop back in. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:17:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi LX gang - nice you all survived the recent snowball fights (i am sure Avi is lurking - LX software is his business). As Ed Padin says "lighten up a bit" - this list needs a bit of sunshine... >Re: Bad Quoting I get the digest version, and the only thing about quoting i don't like is when a whole message is added on as a quote, especially if it is html. Not only is it too much noise, but i often confuse it with the next message, especially when i don't read the original for lack of interest. >Re: IQ (1) >So, I think we can see the pattern. Palm users obviously need >less help than others and therefore probably have the highest IQs. >Barry (owner of 2 palms :) My main reason why i am (still) on the list is the sum of member's IQ multiplied by the number of messages and divided by the sum of those member's IQ who posted them. This number seems declining but is still higher than the PALM and WIN-CE lists. My other eason why i am (still) on this list is for health reasons - explained/described in statements like: "ROTFLMMFAO :-D" and ":-P whew! that one made me cry!", as well as "uncontrolled laughter! That was one for the books. Thankyou!" > Re: abandonware >next step will be check if your software is leagally registered. >The more they improve windows the better DOS and the 200lx look. Technology here in France is moving away from the PC to the interactive Television screen - yes, one giant screen with different parts, say 4 channels in one corner, 6 internet sites surfed with webcam on the other, and a DVD movie in the middle. - All not to get bored or miss anything. >Re: IQ (2) >Well, we could all post our IQs to the list and average the >result. I suspect that our reported average will be higher >than the population average. Of course, I can't post mine because >it has so many digits that it would run over the maximum message >size for the list I am certain Dr. Carder posted this for health reasons also :) :) :) >Re: LX on Mars Steve and Mary landed on Mars after accumulating enough frequent flier miles. They met a Martian couple and were talking about all sorts of things. Steve asked if Mars had a stock market if they had HPLX palmtop computers and how they made money. Finally Mary brought up the subject of sex. "Just how do you guys do it?" asked Mary. The male Martian responded "Pretty much the way you do." A discussion ensued and finally the couples decided to swap partners for the night (for the sake of science, of course). Mary and the male Martian went off to a bedroom where the Martian stripped. Mary was disappointed to find that he had a teeny weeny member about half an inch long and just a quarter inch thick. "I don't think this is going to work," said Mary. "Why?" he asked. "What's the matter?" "Well," she replied "it's just not long enough to reach me!" "No problem," he said and proceeded to slap his forehead with his palm. With each slap his member grew until it was impressively long. "Well," she said "that's quite impressive, but it's still pretty narrow." "No problem," he said and started pulling his ears. With each pull his member grew wider and wider. "Wow!" she exclaimed. They fell into bed and made mad passionate love. The next day the couples joined their normal partners and went their separate ways. As they walked along Steve asked, "Well was it any good?" "I hate to say it," said Mary "but it was pretty wonderful. How about you?" "It was horrible," he replied. "All I got was a headache. She kept slapping my forehead and pulling my ears." Nathalie... my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:54:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Hope Springs Eternal - Syncing with Lotus Notes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lawrence Fast wrote: > I have XTNDConnect and an old copy of Schedule+. However I cannot find = a > copy of IntelliSync anywhere. Puma is no longer selling or supporting > IntelliSync for the 200LX. I have copies of Intellilink and Palm = Connect > from my Win 3.1 days but neither works on either WinNT or Win98SE. > > Has anyone on the list tried the Lotus Notes - XTNDConnect - Schedule+ = - > IntelliSync - 200LX solution? Any ideas on how to find a copy of > IntelliSync? I have Lotus Notes, 200LX and a copy of Intellilink and Intellisynch. I = guess I still need XTNDConnect (is it freeware ?) but do I need Schedule+. I suppose that the file will be generated by either synch software and that Schedule+ is not required. I will test and report. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:06:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Robert Hocking wrote: > I was wondering if you could help me. I have been a user of the 200LX = for > almost six years now, and just recently purchased a new Jornada 690, = and so > far I like it a lot. I thought I would never find a replacement to my > 200LX, but I think I have found it. What I need help with, is have you > found a similar mailing list/newsgroup of Jornada users? Do you have = any > favorite bookmarks that might be worth sharing? I would appreciate any = help > that you may offer. > -----Original Message----- > From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu¨On Behalf Of > Yves Leurquin > Subject: Jornada 720 vs. HP200LX > david feldman wrote: > > ... which works just fine in my Jornada 720 Robert, I have been using the HPLX series for the last 9 years or so since the = 95LX was released. While I am strongly considering the jump to the Jornada = 720, I have not yet taken the plunge. Yesterday, I had the opportunity to play a little with a demo unit at the airport. The specifications look great but = the size is a tad larger than the 200LX. Your positive experience adds up to the one of David Feldman and make me think more and more about getting one too. David Feldman might be in a better position than me to recommend a proper mailing list as I haven't = yet looked for one. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:07:56 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=FCnther_Eisele?= Subject: Re: MSN email In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hoi, 21.02.2001, 13:00, Daniel Hertrich wrote: > Here in Germany there is also an ISP called MSN. It is a call-by-call > ISP which doesn't require any registration. ...but which is often disable in hotels, because they can't charge it. > You simply log in with WWW/LX PAP/CHAP login procedure, dialling number > 01088-0192658, username: msn, password: msn. ¬¬¬¬¬ These prefixes are no longer needed, because the Telekom changed their way of charging calls. > I don't know what this MSN exactly has to do with the "actual" MSN. It's just promoted by MSN, but the actual (and complete) technique comes from UUnet, one of the hugest (and best) backbone and dial-in providers in Germany. So no room for proprietary dial-in protocols. The cool thing about MSN is that they don't charge hole minutes but seconds, so it's ideal to just check shortly for mails. Big disadvantage: It doesn't have an smtp server. The least problems for foreigner should be one of the free providers which just charge normal local calls, which are possible from every hotel (or mobile phone): http://www.holpert.de/christian/internet-by-call/Dellnet_f.htm They even have their own smtp server (which of course is just accessible when using this provider). Bye G=FCnther ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 07:33:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Fwd: Hplx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- begin of forwarded message --- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 23:43:52 -0800 From: sponsor@ftel.net To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Hplx hi Al, I got an email asking why I am not replying to the many posts to me in the list. Hmmmm... I really really quit on Monday morning and have no access to the list, hence cannot read nor reply to any messages. Can you please post this for me... I hope it is not a trouble.. ---------- Hi Folks, I was asked why I am not replying to the messages addressed to me on the list. Well, as of Monday morning, minutes after my goodbye message, I signed off and have no access to the list any longer. If anyone needs help on any D&A products, please use support@dasoft.com Private support email to me at sponsor@ftel.net works, but I do not promise to provide support through that mailbox, since I read it erratically. Just private stuff is fine, of course. Any other messages I simply do not know about, sorry. Avi ---------- --- end of forwarded message --- -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:58:43 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tony Hutchins Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:17:06 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > How do I get post/lx to only retrieve newgroup headers > first and then grab selected message bodies later (it does this with > email). The procedure is the same as with email. Just imagine that the newsgroup box on the POST/LX screen is an e-mail box, and set header download using the "D" toggle (till you see the "H") etc. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:03:05 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything In-Reply-To: <004d01c09bc6$75410840$ad85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie, Now that was a long post that seemed short by the time I got to the end. I guess that shows that "long" is a subjective term. If you're really interested in the subject, the message won't be too long! Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:37:05 +0100 Reply-To: furlan@gmx.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV Subject: looking for a tool to identify network card address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT hello, I am looking for a simple program that can tell me the network card ID-number (Mac address). I have found one but it seems to work only in a novell environment. It runs on the HP, but gives the same number in all cards :-( My problem is: I want to save the nummber in a dos environment variable to identify the computer in a program. The best would be if I could work with the output of the program. tia, Werner -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:47:52 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , th@PARADISE.NET.NZ Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tony Hutchins ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:00:42 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes I have. No problem what so ever with News2/lx have not tried it with robonews. In Post/lx, just highlite Your newsgroup and press "edit". Enter Login/passw. Ed Padin wrote: > I have a news server that requires authentication. Has anyone gotten = that > working with post/lx? /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:31:47 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ace Frehley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ace Frehley Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" In-Reply-To: <3A933ADE.549EC4EC@union-tel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Avi: It would be sad for you never to return, you've responded to most subjects consistently with a manner and personality not often matched. I think the group will manage but it'll be lacking the tenacity and verve you possess...=20 Anyways, if by chance this does not merit a return, best of luck wherever your travels may take you! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:11:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: Ace Frehley In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For what it's worth, Avi has left and returned before... - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 09:10:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Feldman, Robert" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Feldman, Robert" Subject: Re: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Still, it is disappointing that the discussions got to the point where Avi felt he no longer wanted to participate at any level. Bob Feldman -----Original Message----- From: Joseph S. Barrera III Ýmailto:joe@BARRERA.ORG¨ Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:12 AM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Re: Outta here ... For what it's worth, Avi has left and returned before... - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 08:22:31 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Outta here ... Comments: To: "Feldman, Robert" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feldman, Robert writes: > Still, it is disappointing that the discussions got to the point where Avi > felt he no longer wanted to participate at any level. Yes, true. - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 10:27:32 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > For example, 200LX databases of useful information, > 123 templates to do useful tasks, etc. Now there's an idea. One area where the 200lx is way behind the Palm is in the thousands of databases available for the Palm. Most are in database program formats but a lot are doc other format. What about a converter from these various formats to the 200lx database format? There are a lot of them in TealInfo format on the Palm. Some of the best ones. TealInfo isn't exactly a database but it's similar. In concept it's really more like Norton Guides except that it's less freeform. More record oriented than memo oriented. It's flexibility will make it difficult to convert automatically, but it probably can be done. Doc format should convert easily to any text format that can have large enough files. But doc format also includes catagories. Kind of like pop-up bookmarks. Is there anything on the 200lx that has a feature like that? Does PE? The easiest way would probably be a different program for each Palm format. There are several formats and most won't be easy fits into the 200lx format. And each will have it's own problems. The TealInfo databases come in a compiled form that the TealInfo program uses. I'm not sure if there's a decompiler. If not, that might become part of the project. I don't think HandDBase files have to be decompiled but I'm not sure. If we get any serious discussion about this I'll try to find answers to some of these questions. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:24:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>> Can anyone walk me through the first steps on programming (making programs for) the HP200LX ? I have an Avatar Shark that I would like to connect to the HP using the Shark's PCMCIA interface card. Presumably all I need is a driver for the HP platform that will read and write to the Shark. I've programmed before (in the far distant past whilst in University) and would like to take it up again, however I don't know if I should start by learning Borland C (that I sometimes see quoted on this mailing list) or by learning Developer's guide from the HP Palmtop paper. <<<<<<<<<< If you want to learn programming, Borland's Turbo C or Turbo C++ is a good place to start. The developer's guide is a reference and you'll need it down the road, but not right away. I'd plan on a minimum of a few months of learning before attempting a device driver. Also, assembly is a better language to write device drivers in. But it's harder to learn and you won't get as much general use from it as you will C. It's been years since I wrote a device driver and I've only done it in assembly. Doing it in C, if it can be done, should be much more complicated. If you're serious about learning programming for reasons beyond the need to write that device driver, I'd suggest learning C first and then learn assembly. I learned assembly first and I've always been glad I did, but I learned in school with a teacher. I think that might be the hard way learning on your own. I'm not sure I'd have stuck it out through the assembly on my own. I'm sure a lot of people are going to jump in and disagree with this but I think learning both languages at the same time might be easier than learning them seperately. That helps you get a better view of what the compiler does and what the computer does. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:33:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Outa here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Aside from the cutesy comments above, your input carries significant weight. My delete key keeps me from wasting more time and stirring up more mud than I do. I too hope you reconsider and pop back in. << For what it's worth, I emailed Avi privately and he told me he's no longer subscribed to this list. I asked him to reconsider and his answer was "not negotiable". I think he means it. I think we've lost one of the most valuable and helpful list members and one of the nicest guys around. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:55:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: A batch file that knows what time it is? Comments: To: "Owen H. Morgan" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Owen H. Morgan Ýmailto:ohmorgan@INAME.COM¨ > Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:33 PM > > Is there any way of getting a batch file to check what time > it is being run and then act accordingly? > > What I want to do is have the batch file check what time it > is. If it is before 05:00 I want it to assign "06:15" to %1. > If the time is between 05:00 and 07:20, I want %1 to be set > to "11:50" and if it's between 07:20 and 22:05 I want %1 to be 22:30. You may want to try a batch enhancer like STRINGS, found here: ftp://ftp.zdnet.com/pcmag/1992/1222/strings.zip. It makes this sort of programming very simple. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:00:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Windows Comments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Stefan Peichl wrote: > > Amusingly (to us that are somewhat easily so) LXPIC will work in > > a VDM box in modes 6, and 13H. But not in modes 10H and 12H. Hmm, > > one of my mode 13H programs won't work, but the mode 6 varient does. > > Hey, Stefan, does LXPIC use the default palette in mode 13H > > LXPIC never uses the default palette. It uses the palette > coming with the picture or it builds it's own by the RGB > information coming with a true color pictures. Oops, glitch. What I meant to ask was if LXPIC uses BIOS calls to set the palette, or do you write directly to the VGA ports. I sort of answered that by rewriting my program to use the BIOS, and now it works in the window. (Sometimes, seems to depend on the size of the image or some such....) > LXPIC always writes directly to the video memory, in all modes > it supports. On my Win95 system I can switch back to a small DOS > window for CGA,EGA and both VGA modes (640x480 and 320x200), > but for none of the VESA modes (8bit high resolution). > Stefan On two different Win98 machines I see the same thing, all four standard modes work. On another Win98, a Win95 machine, and the OS/2 machines I've tried, only modes 6 and 13H work. On the Win2k boot, none work in a window. So, using a graphic DOS application in a window (such as the CPack) will vary on a machine by machine case. Thanks Stefan, Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:05:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Theodore Heise Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Theodore Heise Subject: resource sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A recent post suggested developing tools to convert Palm databases to formats useable on the 200LX. Another helpful idea might be to share individual resources we may have. To that end I've uploaded zipped files containing the text of USFDA regulations governing medical devices, the text of the first 164 pages of the 2nd edition of Alcoholics Anonymous, and the text of Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions. I realize these are pretty specialized and have a limited appeal, but perhaps someone will find them helpful. These files can be downloaded from: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/21cfr800.zip http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/2ndbb164.zip http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/12&12.zip I use Vern Buerg's LIST (and sometimes Vertical Reader) to view these files. Ted -- Theodore W. Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA PGP public key: http://showcase.netins.net/web/twheise/theise.txt ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 13:29:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX Yes, I should have waited for someone on the list to answer that. It was right in front of my face. All I needed to do was to press F1. Unfortunately, I sent the email to Avi before getting the answer on my own. He gets so pissed off at having to answer the same questions over and over that I should have waited. I hate to make him upset at such a trying time in his life. :-/ Oh well, as my favorite doctor would say: 'Ce'st la vie.' L8R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Hutchins" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Ed Padin" Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 2:58 AM Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 19:17:06 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: > How do I get post/lx to only retrieve newgroup headers > first and then grab selected message bodies later (it does this with > email). The procedure is the same as with email. Just imagine that the newsgroup box on the POST/LX screen is an e-mail box, and set header download using the "D" toggle (till you see the "H") etc. Tony ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 11:25:01 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Fryday Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Fryday Subject: Re: Outa here Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And one of the most sensitive. Not a bad thing in itself, but it can be a hindrance during discussions. Philippe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Outa here > >> Aside from the cutesy comments above, your input carries > significant weight. My delete key keeps me from wasting more > time and stirring up more mud than I do. I too hope you > reconsider and pop back in. << > > For what it's worth, I emailed Avi privately and he told me he's > no longer subscribed to this list. I asked him to reconsider > and his answer was "not negotiable". I think he means it. > > I think we've lost one of the most valuable and helpful list > members and one of the nicest guys around. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 20:49:25 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ed Padin wrote: > Here's another one. How do I get post/lx to only retrieve newgroup = headers > first and then grab selected message bodies later (it does this with > email). In POST/LX mark the newsgrougfolder and press "D" repeatedly to toggle the download modes. When you see an "H" where you once had the down-arrow you are in header download mode. Go online and you will receive headers only. Now select the message which you want fully and go online again. That's it. Check the docs for "header download". HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:59:21 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > "It was horrible," he replied. "All I got was a headache. She kept slapping > my forehead and pulling my ears." > > Nathalie... GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGggg........... thanks!!! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 15:26:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything > > "It was horrible," he replied. "All I got was a headache. She kept slapping > > my forehead and pulling my ears." > > Then she broke out with the leather garments and other implements and the fun really started! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 12:57:32 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Authentication News Servers and post LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > He gets so pissed off at having to answer the same questions over and over > that I should have waited. I hate to make him upset at such a trying time in > his life. :-/ That is after all, the nature of customer service, just as it's our nature (as customers) to be trying. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 14:39:06 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "M.de Azagra y de Miota Iqigo" Subject: Re: WordStar 5.5 questions.... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, There is a Wordstar clone available on the Internet. I never downloaded the program, because I find the Wordstar commands difficult to learn. Try to look for it in the simtel archive or look for "wordstar" in yahoo or google. If I remember where I found it I will e-mail you. Cheers, Inigo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 23:54:12 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alban Pearce Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce Subject: Connnect pack Comments: To: Evan Person , Evan Person In-Reply-To: <3A6BAFF4.F7480639@mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am Trying to Reply Evan Person But the return Address Bounces Please Evan will You E-Mail Me ( Off The List) SORRY to Bother Everybody ... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:12:29 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Programming Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Also, assembly is a better language to write device drivers in. > But it's harder to learn and you won't get as much general use > from it as you will C. It's been years since I wrote a device > driver and I've only done it in assembly. Doing it in C, if it > can be done, should be much more complicated. I've written device drivers in both assembly and C, and writing drivers in C is actually much easier. You need a bit of assembler, for example in the entry and exit to the interrupt service routines, but these can call your C code. The trick to doing it in C is that you have to remember that you don't have a normal "C user environment" under you. Two drivers I remember in particular were so large that doing them in assembler would have been a daunting task compared to doing them in C. Both were drivers for coprocessor boards that had complicated interfaces. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:19:10 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > What about a converter from these various formats to the 200lx > database format? I started working on this project but work and school got in the way and I never finished it. The 200LX database format is public information. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 02:01:38 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Outta here ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Feldman, Robert wrote: > Still, it is disappointing that the discussions got to the point where Avi > felt he no longer wanted to participate at any level. Maybe this incident will help us stay on topic and off emotional, never ending, flame bait, issues. Remember folks, we're it. If we can't keep this list alive and thriving your chance of finding useful LX information and discussion elsewhere is somewhere between slim and none. Now to get us back on (semi-)subject... Curtis, what's witb this "A" command in Golf? What commands are hidden in your other games? Cheers... Russ (FreeCell, 10K, and Klondike addict) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 19:37:04 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "John A. Evans - N0HJ" Subject: Re: resource sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore's post reminded me of what my wife does every now and then with groups of other families, namely, a meal exchange program - all the cooks in each family get together for a head count, then decide how many meals (usually one per family participating) will be created and delivered on a set date. One afternoon, the kitchen becomes a mess cooking large quantities of one meal, then they all get together and distribute the meals. Each family gets a variety of homecooked meals that keep in the freezer until needed and the cooking is done all at once, saving time for the families participating. Anyway, if we could all decide on a group of things needed, we could individually cook some databases and deliver them on a set date. Cool idea Ted. john - n0hj Theodore Heise wrote: > A recent post suggested developing tools to convert Palm databases > to formats useable on the 200LX. Another helpful idea might be to > share individual resources we may have. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2001 18:53:54 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Rich & Cel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Rich & Cel Subject: Re: Programming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to this and all the responses. From this and other discussions I've had, learning C sounds like the right place to start. I remember (vaguely) assembler from all those years ago; C however, is a new one for me. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Programming > >>>>>>>> Can anyone walk me through the first steps on > programming (making programs for) the HP200LX ? I have an > Avatar Shark that I would like to connect to the HP using the > Shark's PCMCIA interface card. Presumably all I need is a > driver for the HP platform that will read and write to the > Shark. I've programmed before (in the far distant past whilst > in University) and would like to take it up again, however I > don't know if I should start by learning Borland C (that I > sometimes see quoted on this mailing list) or by learning > Developer's guide from the HP Palmtop paper. <<<<<<<<<< > > If you want to learn programming, Borland's Turbo C or Turbo C++ > is a good place to start. The developer's guide is a reference > and you'll need it down the road, but not right away. > > I'd plan on a minimum of a few months of learning before > attempting a device driver. > > Also, assembly is a better language to write device drivers in. > But it's harder to learn and you won't get as much general use > from it as you will C. It's been years since I wrote a device > driver and I've only done it in assembly. Doing it in C, if it > can be done, should be much more complicated. > > If you're serious about learning programming for reasons beyond > the need to write that device driver, I'd suggest learning C > first and then learn assembly. I learned assembly first and > I've always been glad I did, but I learned in school with a > teacher. I think that might be the hard way learning on your > own. I'm not sure I'd have stuck it out through the assembly on > my own. > > I'm sure a lot of people are going to jump in and disagree with > this but I think learning both languages at the same time might > be easier than learning them seperately. That helps you get a > better view of what the compiler does and what the computer > does. > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 00:48:48 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: tech question: connectivity pack and Win98 problems Hi Etienne Lemaire, >When using a wireless mouse on my desktop, the Connectivity >Pack stopped working, it interfered with the com ports. From the >archives, the following solved the problem: >...... >I work as a beta tester for remote backup software and we >learned a trick relating to that. To force Windows to release >it's serial ports we include the following additional lines >under the heading "Ý386Enh¨" in the system.ini file in the >windows directory: >ComBoostTime=5 >Com1AutoAssign=2 >Com2AutoAssign=2 >Com3AutoAssign=2 >Com4AutoAssign=2 >Com1FIFO=1 >Com2FIFO=1 >Com3FIFO=1 >Com4FIFO=1 >...... I posted that tip long ago. I'm glad to see that it continues to be useful. :-) Cheers! John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:29:14 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Group project - database idea Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > For example, 200LX databases of useful information, > > 123 templates to do useful tasks, etc. > > Now there's an idea. One area where the 200lx is way behind the > Palm is in the thousands of databases available for the Palm. More data is generally better than less. Sounds like a good area to explore. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:13:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FS: B.O. 100LX:1MB/2x MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:03:33 -0500 (EST) Hi All: More Office cleaning ;-) I have a 100LX taht I used as a spare machine for a while. This is a double speed unit with 1MB RAM. The screen is starting go but a pinch on the left side usually restores it...still it is ledgible. I can throw in a 10MB SUNDISK(SDP-10) & European AC adapter(round non-folding prongs) with a US adapter. This unit is usable as a back-up unit, or for a non-screen-intensive application. If you think it may be of use to you, make me an offer. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:36:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Outa here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Still, it is disappointing that the discussions > got to the point where Avi felt he no longer > wanted to participate at any level. He led me to think it wasn't the discussions as a whole but the way he was treated by a few individuals. If you know who you are, maybe posts from you would encourage him to come back. Even if you aren't among those, maybe posts from you would encourage him to come back. I'll miss him and I think his loss will hurt this list. He can be reached at sponsor@ftel.net. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:45:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Resource Sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Theodore Heise wrote: > > Another helpful idea might be to share > individual resources we may have. To > that end I've uploaded zipped files > containing the text of USFDA regulations > governing medical devices, the text of the > first 164 pages of the 2nd edition of > Alcoholics Anonymous, and the text of > Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions. > I realize these are pretty specialized > and have a limited appeal, but perhaps > someone will find them helpful. I think that's good idea. And the richness of the selection on the Palm is because of all the specialized things available. Put enough of them out there and others will find something they can use. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 09:49:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Evan Pearson wrote: > > I started working on this project but work > and school got in the way and I never finished > it. The 200LX database format is public > information. Can you tell us a little about what you've done and where it was going and how far along it is? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 10:00:01 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nathalie Bugeaud mis-stated: > > "It was horrible," he replied. "All I got was > a headache. She kept slapping my forehead > and pulling my ears." In "Slaugherhouse Five", Kurt Vonnegut's favorite SF writer, Kilgore Trout, tells of the Martian who came to Earth. But first you have to understand that Martian language consists primarily of spitting and ear pulling, accompanied by what look like jumping jack excercises, punctuated by farts. Well, he saw a home with the lights on and thought that might be a friendly place to land and anounce himself. But he passed too close and the back of the house caught fire. So he quickly landed in the park across the street from the house. On leaving his ship he realized that the occupants were fixated on the TV in the living room and didn't realize the house was on fire and that there was a tragedy in the making. So he ran in the front door and began telling them, excitedly, in the only language he knew, about the fire in the back of the house. They were all consumed. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:09:23 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > From: Barry Ýmailto:barry@FBTC.NET¨ > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:00 AM >... > first you have to understand that Martian language consists > primarily of spitting and ear pulling, accompanied by what look > like jumping jack excercises, punctuated by farts. >... > So he ran in the front door and began telling them, excitedly, > in the only language he knew, about the fire in the back of the > house. > > They were all consumed. By the flames? Or by the captivating images that rivaled what the Fox network had to offer? ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:25:04 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bk361kb@AOL.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bill Krauss Subject: Re: Outa here Comments: To: barry@fbtc.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/22/01 10:38:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, barry@FBTC.NET writes: << Even if you aren't among those, maybe posts from you would encourage him to come back. I'll miss him and I think his loss will hurt this list. >> It _will_ hurt. We hope Avi will reconsider. Bill ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:23:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii (Sorry about that last message - I hit the wrong key!) Barry's note about developing a database converter to take advantage of the many Palm databases out there got me thinking: Can we expand that to convert Lotus Notes data synched to a Palm? Palms are already synching with Notes, so can we figure out how that is done, then go one step further to create an LX-to-Palm synch application? Then, ultimately, an LX-to-Notes synch application, leaving the Palm out of the process? Just a thought... Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 12:16:11 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Barry's message about creating coverters to take advantage of Palm database files got me thinking: ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:21:41 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: How to connect TCP/IP via DOS? In-Reply-To: <002501c09ce7$03a690c0$43fc36d8@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I have an old 286 machine that has DOS 5.0 that I wish to link into my windoze home network to use exclusively for backups and/or the LX into the network directly. What DOS software do I need to accomplish this? Any info much appreciated. ie TCP stack etc? TIA Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:31:47 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Outa here MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > In a message dated 2/22/01 10:38:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, barry@FBTC= .NET > writes: > > << Even if you aren't among those, maybe posts from you would > encourage him to come back. > > I'll miss him and I think his loss will hurt this list. >> > > It _will_ hurt. We hope Avi will reconsider. I completely missed the breakout of Avi as I decided to use my Del-key on most of the messages that came in through the last two weeks. I'm sure Avi will continue to support the HPx00LX platform. The sad thing is that visibility of D&ASoft will decline with both Andreas and Avi gone. And thats probably bad for both ends. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:21:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards Does anyone have experince with swapping the Accton card and a sandisk (or other) flash card? I know there was some disucssion about this on the list but I couldn't find a consensus on the results of doing this. There was some mention of filesystem corruption. I'm thinking of doign the following when I want to use ethernet: - switch SC to a session with a dos prompt - power off the LX and swap cards - load ethernet drivers/software and do stuff (wwwlx) - remove eth drivers and software - power off LX and put lfash card back Is anyone doing this? Will file corruption result if I forget to remove the eth drivers? Thanks. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 00:23:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Fluff: The Universe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Nathalie writes (>): > my greatest ambition - to help unravel > the secrets of the universe > - is constantly being abused and frustrated > by my need to pay the rent "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what = the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be = replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened." - Douglas Adams from "So long, and thanks for all the fish!" Owen -- On a sailboat (Powered by the infinite improbability drive). In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:07:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards In-Reply-To: <01fe01c09d26$35c73660$0200a8c0@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > Does anyone have experince with swapping the Accton card and a sandisk (or > other) flash card? I know there was some disucssion about this on the list > but I couldn't find a consensus on the results of doing this. There was some > mention of filesystem corruption. I do this daily, and have not experienced any file corruption that I can attribute to this. > I'm thinking of doign the following when I want to use ethernet: > > - switch SC to a session with a dos prompt > - power off the LX and swap cards > - load ethernet drivers/software and do stuff (wwwlx) > - remove eth drivers and software > - power off LX and put lfash card back Pretty much what I do, except for removing the driver. Using lxen2216, I just leave it loaded in my "ethernet" SC session, starting it with the -d switch so I don't even have to have the card in place. I do occasionally have trouble (can't resolve sites) which is I believe due to this, but a quick "lxcic /de" usually fixes it. If you don't already, you should load lxcic resident before starting SC. By the way, I have also - established a connection (e.g. telnet) in one SC session. - switch to another SC session - turn off, swap in flash card, turn on - accessed the card (copy files etc.) - turn off, swap in NIC, turn on - switch back to first SC session - continued on with my original telnet session without problem Lxen2216 is great. I think the only thing you have to worry about for file corruption is having something running in one SC session that has open files on the flash card, but that would also be the case if you were just to remove the card. Regards, Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 20:20:27 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Mike Schneider Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Schneider Subject: Those Dos prgs are back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys & gals, Those dos utils are back. Remember that page that disappeared a couple days ago. It's back up at: http://members.fortunecity.co.uk/dospage/ Have fun, Mike... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 12:47:09 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: Fluff: Fluff In-Reply-To: <01fe01c09d26$35c73660$0200a8c0@openreach.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I just deleted 526 FLUFF: messages from my emails. THANK GOD for FLUFF: :)))) Otherwise it'd be mixed in with real stuff that most of us want to read. Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:30:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , D&A Software Support Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Support Subject: D&A Software is still around! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al Kind set up info@dasoft.com as a "member" of the list, with an option of NOMAIL - i.e. nothing sent to us from the posting. The purpose is to be able to provide information to you about new and good things, if and when they come about. So this is a test, of oorts. Also to let you know, that D&A Software has not wiped itself off the face of the earth - on the contrary! We continue chugging along as strongly as ever. And at this point one more encouragement for all of you to JOIN the D&A Software Announcement mailing list. Go to http://da.info.listbot.com And signup. We do not spam, only provide info. Listbot has been exceptionally good insofar as not misusing email addresses and so on. They add a small advertising to each message - but we have no idea which it'll be and do not endorse them. So why join? Usually the D&A Announcement list will get information WELL AHEAD of any other veneues. Example: Since Feb 5 we have had an upgrade offer for WWW/LX Version 3 for a terrific price. You wanna know the details? Good! Join the list and view the archive of previous messages :-> If anyone has any need for support, you can of course post here, and there are many people who know the products well enough to support you, but the "official" main support line was, and still is: support@dasoft.com Thank you. Please note: This "membership" is a NOMAIL membership and simply does not see any messages posted on HPLX List. But you are welsome to send email to us at info@dasoft.com and support@dasoft.com D&A Software ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:12:34 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >The easiest way would probably be a different program for each >Palm format. There are several formats and most won't be easy >fits into the 200lx format. And each will have it's own problems. The PALM READER and/or VISOR have also programs for medical tasks that keep track of medical references, maintain a schedule, and as a repository for everything from appropriate "drip rates" for intravenous drugs to dosage information. My friend has a drug reference installed in his Palm that updates through the Internet every time he synchronizes his handheld with the computer. The paper versions at the ambulance dispatch office are updated only once a year. He also tracks the number of runs he has been on and what procedures he has performed. He's able to store about 10 pounds of reference material in my pocket. The handhelds are especially popular among doctors, and they are becoming more so among EMTs and paramedics. - {paste} - These trend isn't lost on the Palm community. Palm Inc.'s venture-capital arm, Palm Ventures, was among the new investors last month in ePhysician, a Mountain-View (Calif.) health-technology company that provides wireless medical products to 8,000 doctors. The company has programs that allow doctors to send prescriptions wirelessly over the Internet, diagnose patients, and track billing -- all while on rounds. It's just one of the dozens of companies and services melding the medical with the microprocessor. Even drug interactions are now just a Palm-tap away. With ePocrates' qRX program, a doctor can find out if any interactions are likely between two drugs by highlighting them. (Other information, such as price, packaging, and dosage, is also available.) Another program, QID, lets you tap in information on symptoms and diseases and get treatment recommedations. Dr. Charles Shaefer says he'd rather leave his stethoscope at home than his Palm. Shaefer, who specializes in internal medicine and critical care in Augusta, Ga., says he often double-checks his work on his Palm to make sure his decisions are both accurate and the most cost-effective for the patient. When discussing options with a patient, he often uses the Palm to help explain the trade-offs. Programs such as PocketBilling from PocketMed and MD Everywhere enhance bedside reporting with billing, diagnosis, and other medical information. The trend is even going global. In hotspots like the Balkans and Southeast Asia, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control uses Palms to track and control disease outbreaks and for disaster assessment. - {end} - > LIFELINES: AMERICAN DREAM DEBUNKED > Self-esteem, not fame and fortune, could be the key to happiness. > http://www.nature.com/nsu/010215/010215-14.html ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 06:13:05 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: FLUFF Avi (was Authentication News Servers and post LX) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I sent the email to Avi before getting the answer on my own. He >gets so pissed off at having to answer the same questions over >and over that I should have waited. I hate to make him upset at >such a trying time in his life. :-/ so what - if you (any list member) don't feel like helping someone then use the delete key - they are not going to call you at two in the morning to ask where the F1 key is >Oh well, as my favorite doctor would say: 'Ce'st la vie.' or rather, "If a thing is worth doing, wouldn't it have been done already?" >That is after all, the nature of customer service, just as it's >our nature (as customers) to be trying. - Longden Avi is going through a difficult period - the mid-life crisis, the male menopause ....... he bought a palm :) :) :) Nathalie ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 21:45:38 -0800 Reply-To: Marta Pierce Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marta Pierce Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 20 Feb 2001 to 21 Feb 2001 (#2001-74) In-Reply-To: <200102220500.f1M50S509442@mx7-w.mail.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, I have been a lurker now for years (yes years) I have only asked a few questions (and gotten great answers!). But gleened a lot of info off this list. Now I will give input. i have found that http://www.unboxed.com you can find IntelliSync for the HP 200LX Palmtop PDA 1.02 . -- Best regards, Marta mailto:Marta1@home.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 23:49:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Can you tell us a little about what you've done and where it was > going and how far along it is? I wrote a program in Turbo C 2.0 to read the contents of an HPLX database file and generate two output files. The first output file contains the contents of the HPLX database file in comma-delimited format. The second output file contains for each record in the HPLX database file a hex dump of the record followed by an attempted interpretation of the data in the record. What I was thinking about was eventually going the other way. Taking a comma-delimited file that is output from another database format and from that generate an HPLX database file. The comma-delimited format being a common output format from other various programs that convert other database formats. The program is large enough at this point that it is beginning to tax the 640K memory spectrum of DOS without resorting to memory-saving tricks. I was thinking about porting the project to UNIX so I would be able to just do everything in memory. Currently the program has to make 2 passes through the HPLX database file to generate its output. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 07:55:38 +0100 Reply-To: Etienne Lemaire Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Etienne Lemaire Subject: Re: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Padin To: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:21 AM Subject: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards > Does anyone have experince with swapping the Accton card and a sandisk (or > other) flash card? FWIW, I do this regularly and have not experienced corruption. I am not using SC. Etienne ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 02:51:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:21:40 -0500, Ed Padin wrote: Mr Padin > Does anyone have experince with swapping the Accton card and a sandisk (or > other) flash card? I have a -2 accton card and a cf Sandisk and new 110 mb Sandisk pcmcia. > I know there was some disucssion about this on the list > but I couldn't find a consensus on the results of doing this. There was some > mention of filesystem corruption. I have hotswapped the card(s) without any problem. I have taken the card out/inserted it with the power on. > I'm thinking of doign the following when I want to use ethernet: > > - switch SC to a session with a dos prompt Soon I can do that too.:-) > - power off the LX and swap cards Okey I think that is probably the best thing to do. > - load ethernet drivers/software and do stuff (wwwlx) I do that daily so I am looking forward to do this without restarting things after a ethernet/wwww/lx session > - remove eth drivers and software I do that too.. > - power off LX and put lfash card back That I could do too.. > Is anyone doing this? Will file corruption result if I forget to remove the > eth drivers? I see now that I can not answer the question. But I see nothing wrong in doing what you want to do (and I). Ethernetdrivers in one SC area would not effect something in another would it..well I do not think so. But I know little about SC and how it works. Thanks for the tip..I will test this when I get my 64mb ds/sc machine. (please report if you get into trouble) Regards > > Thanks. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- Martin Bergvill , Narvik Norway -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:14:44 -0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alban Pearce Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alban Pearce Subject: OT Linux (KDE) Clone of Qiucken MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT For those of you Running Linux and Looking for Quicken, OK its not free but the price looks good to me Here is the announcement of a firm that's released a quicken clone http://www.lwn.net/2001/0222/desktop.php3 there web site is at http://www.thekompany.com/products/kapital/ I have e-mailed them and they dont know if they will be able to read pocket quicken format (I believe that's what is on the 200lx) Maybe someone with more info on quicken file formats / versions would like to talk to them ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 13:24:42 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: XWord Comments: To: Theodore Heise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Theodore Heise wrote: > I don't care so much if SUPER gets updated, as I do that the files > not go away--I haven't copied all the files as some smart people > have apparently done. :) You can find the programs on one of the mirrors, e.g. on http://afs.wu-wien.ac.at/ftp/pub/systems/hp200lx/super/ The file you seek is here: http://afs.wu-wien.ac.at/ftp/pub/systems/hp200lx/super/xword20.zip Drop me a line if you need the file by e-mail. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Striegel, Alan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Striegel, Alan" Subject: Re: How to connect TCP/IP via DOS? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > From: Russell Hemery Ýmailto:rhemery@POWERUP.COM.AU¨ > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:22 PM > > I have an old 286 machine that has DOS 5.0 that I wish to link into my > windoze home network to use exclusively for backups and/or > the LX into the network directly. > > What DOS software do I need to accomplish this? First, you'll need a network card for the system. Do you have that? The best ones are probably any from 3Com or the Novell NE-2000-compatible ones. Next you'll need a driver for this card compatible with the DOS operating system. In later years, the NDIS drivers made this more likely to work on a general basis. Without NDIS you must have specific support in the network software for your card. Further, you must have an IP stack. That's software to provide networking functions to the operating system. For one that is compatible with DOS, you may have to look backward a few years (It's time to check the old software bins). Several vendors used to provide them. In our office we used PATHWORKS from Digital Equipment Corp. and Chameleon from NetManage. These provided much more than just the stack itself. They also included applications for TCP/IP, such as Telnet terminal emulation, web browser (under Windows), FTP, gopher, etc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:45:37 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Can we expand that to convert Lotus > Notes data synched to a Palm? It's been a while but I took a Notes macro programming class. I think that was Notes 3.0 or 3.5. I never actually used Notes much but from what little I remember it's a very large and complex system allowing a lot of different formats. Also, my idea was to have conversion programs, not sync tools. Syncing will be a big job. Especially if it's meant to work with a lot of different formats. Still, it's probably do-able if enough people are interested. The Palm has a lot of different database formats and a lot of Palm users have put together databases for their own use. Places like Teal and Palmgear and others have provided library space for those where the user can upload them and anyone can download them free. There are a lot of databases available in a lot of areas, ranging from reference material for various computers and operating systems to lists of restaurants in various cities and medical references of all kinds and all kinds of sports trivia and schedules. We have a few things like this for the LX, too. But not nearly the range and variety that's available for the Palm. So why not steal theirs. :) A lot of them are in Palm doc format. Writing a doc conversion program will be fairly easy. Maybe even a doc reader on the LX to take advantage of their bookmark system and their catagories. Other formats like TealInfo and HanDBase will be a little harder to convert but maybe not much harder. Again, readers for these on the LX might give more flexibility due to their special features. I suspect that adding making a Notes coverter or reader will be a MUCH more complex undertaking. I'm not sure if it would have to support Notes macro language but I think it might and that would be a major project in itself. How many people on this list use Notes and would have a use for something like this? Can we get a show of hands? Anyway, the problem with all this is that it's not a project but a lot of little projects. It's not something we can all work on together. That's what I think we really need. Still, this might be worth doing while we look for a serious group project. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 08:50:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Fluff: fluff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Russell Hemery told us: > > I just deleted 526 FLUFF: messages from my emails. > > THANK GOD for FLUFF: :)))) > > Otherwise it'd be mixed in with real stuff that most of us want to read. I think you have it backwards. Fluff is king. I wonder if there are more filters filtering out messages that don't have fluff in the subject, than those that filter out messages that do. :) Barry (non-fluff filter on) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:17:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Large flash card in HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Say, I know that this has come up before, but I didn't pay full attention previously, sorry. Will large flash cards work in the HP200? I ask because I perhaps foolishly bought a "bargain" 220MB Sandisk card. I don't have it yet, or I guess I could answer this myself! I'm assuming that it will work because it is ATA. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:30:17 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Re: Large flash card in HP200LX? In-Reply-To: <5216@> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am currently using several 220mb SanDisk Flashdisk PC cards= with no problem in the HP 200LX. My only caution is to format these= larger cards either using the AC adapter on the LX or format them on a laptop or desktop. Reason being that they take a long time to= format on the LX and the battery drain for such extended operations may= be unsettling. Bob -- Bob Christopher, bob@palmtop.com on 02/23/2001 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 10:44:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: Large flash card in HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Christopher wrote: > > I am currently using several 220mb SanDisk Flashdisk PC cards with no > problem in the HP 200LX. My only caution is to format these larger > cards either using the AC adapter on the LX or format them on a > laptop or desktop. Reason being that they take a long time to format > on the LX and the battery drain for such extended operations may be > unsettling. > Very interesting, I had not thought of that! I'll format it in a laptop. Now all I have to figure out is what to fill the card up with! I have a 40MB card now that is actually large enough for my stuff, I just could not resist the bigger card. Thanks, Bryan > Bob > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 09:36:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: FLUFF Avi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Avi is going through a difficult period - the mid-life crisis, the male menopause ....... he bought a palm :) :) :) >> Must be akin to taking a mistress after a long and apparently successful marriage. I guess sometimes, meatloaf and potatoes just doesn't do it for you any more ... and a "hot flash" isn't just a good buy on a memory card. - Longden (who's noticed that the number of attractive women and "must have" gadgets seem to increase in proportion to one's age) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:58:43 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Marco Nuessgen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marco Nuessgen Organization: TFB Subject: Ý200LX¨Datacomm connect via Siemens S10 mobile phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I want to dial into a host with the datacom program and a Siemens S10 mobile phone. I built my own serial cable and tested it with a terminal: it' ok and working. I can't figure out which init strings I have to send to the Siemens modem. I tried to sniff the dial connection by connecting the 200LX via a nullmodem cable to a computer, but it made not much sense trying the sniffed init strings. Can anybody give me a hint where I can look for further information? Or probably tell me where I have to edit which strings in the datacomm-setup to make it work? I tried RTS/CTS dataflow control, , vt100 emu, 8-1-no parity and several connect speeds. TIA Regards. Marco. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 14:08:18 -0600 Reply-To: Bev@BevHoward.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Beverly Howard Subject: Re: looking for a tool to identify network card address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you are on a novel network, you can add a command to your login script that will generate a dos environment variable with the mac address. specifically DOS SET NODE="%P_STATION" other examples DOS SET OS="%OS" DOS SET USER="%LOGIN_NAME" DOS SET USERNAME="%LOGIN_NAME" DOS SET NETADDR="%NETWORK_ADDRESS" DOS SET MACHINE="%LOGIN_NAME" Beverly Howard http://www.BevHoward.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:18:58 -0600 Reply-To: Bev@BevHoward.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Beverly Howard Subject: Re: Large flash card in HP200LX? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beverly Howard wrote: > Should not have to format them unless something about Dos5 can't deal > with the size. > > Insert it... if you get an A: prompt, run chkdsk > > Beverly Howard > > http://www.BevHoward.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:19:23 -0600 Reply-To: Bev@BevHoward.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Beverly Howard Subject: Re: Swapping Accton ethernet and sandisk cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The issue is not with the Accton card, but with open files on a flash > disk. > > If you have any apps that access files on a:, close them or at least > close the files before you remove the card, and check to see if any apps > are open that may "think" they have access to files on a: > > Old tip from all the way back to CP/M that _appears_ to work in Dos, > insert the card, go to the a: prompt and type a to force a FAT > re-read. > > Beverly Howard > > http://www.BevHoward.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:37:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm aware that this is short notice but ... I'll be in Paris next week and will sit together with Daniel Legendre To: at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 Phone Rest: 33 01 43 26 68 18 Category: Brasseries Address: 142, Bd Saint Germain 75006 Paris Food Quality: Excellent Cost: Moderate Note: Open every days till 1:00 am Cuisine traditionnelle, Sp=E9cialit=E9s de foie gras, Confits, Pot-au-Feu, Poissons, Fruits de mer en saison Fax 33 01 40 51 73 38 Metro Louvre Rivoli Anybody hanging around or not knowing what to do should go join us in Paris. You my let either Daniel or me know which flights you take and when you will arive (VBG). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:02:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HP Staber wrote: > I'll be in Paris next week and will sit together with Daniel Legendre Who or what is a Daniel Legendre? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 15:35:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HP and Daniel, Have a great time and a great dinner. If I may be impertinent, will you speak French, German or English? Best Regards, Tom Salwasser HP Staber wrote: I'm aware that this is short notice but ... I'll be in Paris next week and will sit together with Daniel Legendre To: at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 Phone Rest: 33 01 43 26 68 18 Category: Brasseries Address: 142, Bd Saint Germain 75006 Paris Food Quality: Excellent Cost: Moderate Note: Open every days till 1:00 am Cuisine traditionnelle, Sp=E9cialit=E9s de foie gras, Confits, Pot-au-Feu, Poissons, Fruits de mer en saison Fax 33 01 40 51 73 38 Metro Louvre Rivoli Anybody hanging around or not knowing what to do should go join us in Paris. You my let either Daniel or me know which flights you take and when you will arive (VBG). HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:23:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tom Salwasser wrote: > HP and Daniel, > > Have a great time and a great dinner. If I may be impertinent, will > you speak French, German or English? > > Best Regards, > Tom Salwasser > > HP Staber wrote: > > I'm aware that this is short notice but ... > > I'll be in Paris next week and will sit together with Daniel > Legendre > > To: at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 > > Phone Rest: 33 01 43 26 68 18 > Category: Brasseries > Address: 142, Bd Saint Germain 75006 Paris > Food Quality: Excellent > Cost: Moderate > Note: Open every days till 1:00 am > Cuisine traditionnelle, Spicialitis de foie gras, > Confits, Pot-au-Feu, Poissons, Fruits de mer en saison > Fax 33 01 40 51 73 38 > Metro Louvre Rivoli > > Anybody hanging around or not knowing what to do should go join us > in > Paris. You my let either Daniel or me know which flights you take > and > when you will arive (VBG). > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml They will probably speak 'C.' ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 20:37:42 -0500 Reply-To: Jim Westley Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Westley Subject: Wierd behavior in games MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C09DD8.78798320" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C09DD8.78798320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone seen this before? All my games (solitaire, yahtzee, golf, etc) had their "results" files = erased, effectively resetting them all. They have different extensions, so I don't think I did a global erase. = And, the files are still there, but with no data in them. The games themselves play fine. Jim ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C09DD8.78798320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone seen this before?
 
All my games (solitaire, yahtzee, golf, etc) had = their=20 "results" files erased, effectively resetting them all.
 
They have different extensions, so I don't think I = did a=20 global erase. And, the files are still there, but with no data in=20 them.
 
The games themselves play fine.
 
Jim
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C09DD8.78798320-- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:00:24 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: How to connect TCP/IP via DOS? Comments: To: "Striegel, Alan" In-Reply-To: <454226824160D3118F9D00508B08F15A02624CCF@piouspkldmail.pios.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Further, you must have an IP stack. That's software to provide networking >>functions to the operating system. For one that is compatible >>with DOS, you >>may have to look backward a few years (It's time to check the old software >>bins). Several vendors used to provide them. actually somewhere on the ms web site there is a client program to allow a dos computer to "network" to a windows 95/98 machine this is even easier if you use nt, you can make a dos network install disk so your dos machines can map the drives on the nt network and use them ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 23:00:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A96DDE4.82B8319F@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Who or what is a Daniel Legendre? someone from the cis handheld forum, a familiar name to people who participated in that forum ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 06:49:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: Fluff: The Universe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Owen on a sailboat (and fellow retireds) > Nathalie writes (>): > my greatest ambition - to help unravel the secrets of the universe - > is constantly being abused and frustrated by my need to pay the rent > replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. >- Douglas Adams from "So long, and thanks for all the fish!" what my signature tries to portray is that i really wanted to become an astronomer, not a doctor; i know of Adams (and so many others who have theories) but my favorites are Sagan and Feynman. it must be nice on a starry (warm) night to lay on top of your boat and marvel at all the stars.... while at the same time Emergency Doctor Bugeaud feels like throwing up in a speeding ambulance... -amities- Nathalie :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:35:03 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > HP and Daniel, > > Have a great time and a great dinner. If I may be impertinent, will > you speak French, German or English? All three :) German and French for courteousy reasons and English when we want to be on equal terms. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 02:58:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: Ý200LX¨Datacomm connect via Siemens S10 mobile phone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:58:43 +0100, Marco Nuessgen wrote: > Hello. Hellu > I want to dial into a host with the datacom program and a Siemens S10 > mobile phone. I am not sure that the S10 has a built in modem. I know it can do data with a cable. But I _think_ that it needs a soft modem on the pc running to do data. I found this info at the very back of my brain so I could be wrong (hopefully) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:26:45 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , D&A Software Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Subject: PIP.EXE Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit D&A Software is happy to announce thr release of PIP.EXE. This program performs Pack-In-Place of one or more message files. It is very fast and can even be run as an external program from POST/LX. See more information http://www.dasoft.com ... Thank you. Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ---------- This message is provided as a service to our customers who visit HPLX List. Please write to us at info@dasoft.com if you need information.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 00:26:43 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , D&A Software Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Subject: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a was released today. There are two main items of interest: - Clog=-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. - In IMAP4 mailboxes, marking a message as UNREAD has a higher priority than marking it as READ. See http://www.dasoft.com Thank you. Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ---------- This message is provided as a service to our customers who visit HPLX List. Please write to us at info@dasoft.com if you need information.. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:29:46 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Is there any way of making the appointment book not run scheduled item if = it was missed because the LX was in DOS at the time? I have scheduled Appt = Book to start HFFAX at fixed times. If I'm doing something in DOS at the = appointment time, the alarm will occur when I return to the topcard. For = these alarms, I would prefer for them to simply be skipped if Appt Book was = unable to run them at the scheduled time. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:40:34 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tomas Moberg Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tomas Moberg Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: ... > How many people on this list use Notes and would have a use for > something like this? Can we get a show of hands? ... I use Lotus Notes 4.5 and would use a "sync" tool. /tomas moberg Uppsala ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:39:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Lazy Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > Dr. Charles Shaefer says he'd rather > leave his stethoscope at home than his > Palm. Doctors are getting so lazy. You're just supposed to know all this stuff. Come on. What if you have to save a life and your battery is dead? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:44:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF Avi (was Authentication News Servers and post LX) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nathalie Bugeaud proclaimed: > > Avi is going through a difficult period > - the mid-life crisis, the male > menopause ....... he bought a palm :) :) :) Is that the official medical definition of male menopause? Is it true for everyone or just 200lx owners? I bought my first Palm about 2 years ago. I do seem to remember having hot flashes. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:51:27 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 22 Feb 2001 to 23 Feb 2001 (#2001-76) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Even Person said: > > The program is large enough at this point > that it is beginning to tax the 640K memory > spectrum of DOS without resorting to > memory-saving tricks. I was thinking about > porting the project to UNIX so I would be > able to just do everything in memory. > Currently the program has to make 2 > passes through the HPLX database file > to generate its output. Why is the program so big? Are you trying to retain the entire database in memory? I don't think that's practical on the 200lx. I would think a program like this should be fairly small if it just processes a record at a time, which would be the natural way to do it. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:53 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <200102232137.f1NLbCD30969@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:37:09 +0100 HP Staber a =E9crit: > I'll be in Paris next week and will sit together with Daniel Legendre >=20 > To: at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 Unfortunately, I can't join you this evening, I will have a work meeting. But salute Daniel for me... > Metro Louvre Rivoli Wrong info : Odeon is much better... But Louvre is good if you want to cross the Seine river at night, by the "Pont Neuf" bridge or the "Pont des arts". Very nice view... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:00:54 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <3A96DDE4.82B8319F@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Fri, 23 Feb 2001 17:02:12 -0500 Ken London a =E9crit: > Who or what is a Daniel Legendre? "A" Daniel Legendre () is a very nice guy, who is using HP palmtops and calculators since... well... a very long time (he even worked on HP-41 as a consultant, if I remember)...=20 He was a member of PPC Paris, the HP user's club I managed early 90's. Unfortunately, we don't keep contact together, but I know he is more active on the HPHAND forum, where he arrived just after I quit it. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:15:53 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Large card MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Now all I have to figure out is what > to fill the card up with! I have a 40MB > card now that is actually large enough > for my stuff, I just could not resist the > bigger card. I just did the same thing. I bought a 160 meg card from a list member. I currently have a 20 meg card on one 200lx with about 5 meg to spare and a 40 meg card on another one with about 25 meg to spare. But I just couldn't resist the price. I may just use it as an easy way to transfer stuff from my laptop to my desktop. But think of all the stuff I can have on it on the 200lx. The entire Super site, probably. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:14:26 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Marco Nuessgen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Marco Nuessgen Organization: TFB Subject: Re: Ý200LX¨Datacomm connect via Siemens S10 mobile phone Comments: To: Martin Bergvill MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Bergvill wrote: Ý...¨ > I am not sure that the S10 has a built in modem. I know it can do data > with a cable. But I _think_ that it needs a soft modem on the pc Ý...¨ Martin, you are right. I discovered it one hour ago. Damn wannabe-hardware. Now I have to wait for the Siemens S40. Thank you. Maarco. -- S:DEC RA90 & 92 OperatorPanels, CI & DSSI cables, VAX 6200 & 6400 CPU boards, VT05, VT52, Documentation. Contact me if you have stuff to go. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 07:52:30 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tom Salwasser Subject: FLUFF:FS: Unused HP 200LX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello! The auction for my unused 200lx is almost over. Please click the link below if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215215717 Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:12:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: HPLX-L Digest - 22 Feb 2001 to 23 Feb 2001 (#2001-76) Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Why is the program so big? Are you trying to retain the entire > database in memory? I don't think that's practical on the > 200lx. I would think a program like this should be fairly small > if it just processes a record at a time, which would be the > natural way to do it. It's big: 1. Mainly because there's so much .data mainly in .printf statements to do a formatted output of everything the program can figure out about the database. There is tons of debug output in the program, which if stripped out, would make it a lot smaller. I found the HPLX database format to be fairly sophisticated, especially for a DOS-era product. 2. I wrote the program in a real hurry so I wasn't worried about efficiency (I didn't exactly get any monetary incentive to work on this program). 3. It does two things instead of one (comma- delimited output and formatted dump of the database). It maintains only one or two records in memory at a time, not the entire database. The first pass is primarily to determine the location of the data and note records, to sequentially order the data records, and to map the note records to their corresponding data records. The second pass is to generate the comma-delimited output file. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:20:10 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > > Lazy Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > > > Dr. Charles Shaefer says he'd rather > > leave his stethoscope at home than his > > Palm. > > Doctors are getting so lazy. You're just supposed to know all > this stuff. Come on. What if you have to save a life and your > battery is dead? > > Barry > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml In defense of doctors have you looked at how big the PDR is? How many drugs there are? Have you ever looked up how many diseases there are? In this case you should lay off the good doctor. What profression are you in? Have you memorized every conceivable tidbit your profression uses? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:24:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , KenLondon Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: KenLondon Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released Comments: To: D&A Software MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit D&A Software wrote: > D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a > was released today. There are two main items of interest: > > - Clog=-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. Like ads from D&A software??????? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:39:56 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Is there any way of making the appointment book not run scheduled item if it was > missed because the LX was in DOS at the time? I have scheduled Appt Book to > start HFFAX at fixed times. If I'm doing something in DOS at the appointment > time, the alarm will occur when I return to the topcard. For these alarms, I > would prefer for them to simply be skipped if Appt Book was unable to run them > at the scheduled time. I've noticed the same thing when I inadvertently leave my LX in DOS mode during my 1am nightly backups. Exiting back to the topcard (or AppMgr) the next day usually results in the running of the backup ... not necessarily a bad thing for me, but not always the best timing either. So in short, I'd like to know also ... tho I suspect the only thing to do may be to boot the LX from the DOS application in order to stop the auto-execute (just a guess). - Longden PS - Owen, did you ever get your weather icon? I deleted a bunch of email accidentally and didn't know if you ever requested one from me. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:38:31 -0600 Reply-To: melancon@microgear.net Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Melancon Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released Comments: To: KenLondon In-Reply-To: <3A97E035.AFA5F7F6@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT As a matter of fact I do LIKE ads from D&A Software. Hope they continue to improve and offer more things for the 200LX. Sorry for this lapse in silence. I couldn't resist the double meaning of your sentence, and the opportunity to give a word of support for a vendor who IMO is a valuable resource for our user group. Mike > D&A Software wrote: > > > D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a > > was released today. There are two main items of interest: > > > > - Clog=-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. > > Like ads from D&A software??????? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 08:50:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Doctors are getting so lazy. You're just supposed to know all > > this stuff. Come on. What if you have to save a life and your > > battery is dead? > In defense of doctors have you looked at how big the PDR is? How many > drugs there are? Have you ever looked up how many diseases there are? > In this case you should lay off the good doctor. He was just kidding. I'm sure Nathalie knows that ... she's pretty smart .... even on low batteries. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:21:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , lfeldman@USA.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Feldman Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:24:21 -0500, KenLondon wrote: > > Like ads from D&A software??????? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Good grief - how many vendors support the 200LX directly? The few that were left, are slowly disappearing. If Avi wants to post an update - Thank you Dasoft! I for one am glad he did - AND I hope he makes a few dollars! You know.... it's no wonder he left. Why does he need this agravation. Larry Feldman (no relation) P.S. I just downloaded the new message packer - it's excellent! AND fast! Thank you Andreas. ---------------------------------------------------------------- LFeldman@USA.net Listowner: Submini-L: The Subminiature Photography Mailing List ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:26:52 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released In-Reply-To: <3A97E035.AFA5F7F6@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, KenLondon wrote: > D&A Software wrote: > > D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a > > was released today. There are two main items of interest: > > > > - Clog=-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. > > Like ads from D&A software??????? No Ken, that's what filters and killfiles and procmail recipes are for, which is where you are headed. Last June you made some nonsense comments about what a terrible job D&A Software was doing advertising their products. Now you're complaining when they send a brief product announcement to the list, which many on the list will be interested in. You just like to complain don't you. Doesn't matter what. You'll even switch positions if it means you can spew more crap. Why don't you stop posting until you have something worthwhile to contribute. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:29:16 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Evan Person told us: > > It's big: > 1. Mainly because there's so much .data > mainly in .printf statements to do a formatted > output of everything the program can figure > out about the database. There is tons of > debug output in the program, which if > stripped out, would make it a lot smaller. > I found the HPLX database format to be > fairly sophisticated, especially for a DOS-era > product. You must be used to programming in linux where you have all the room in the world. I guess programmers that grew up in that environment must do things differently. I learned to program at school on an IBM 360/20 with 8k ram. Core memory, too. Not transistors. In fact there were 3 devices attached. Card reader, card punch and printer. And drive. That's 4. I think the drive was 5 meg but I'm not sure of that. It was the size of a washing machine. About a year ago there was a discussion on a Timex Sinclair newsgroup about a chess program written for the 1k timex years ago. The programmer that did it was involved in the discussion and he pointed out that he really had only about 850 bytes to use. The OS used the rest. I never had to economize quite that much. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 09:43:00 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: FLUFF: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <000701c09e87$50d231a0$7efc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry writes: > I learned to program at school on an IBM 360/20 with 8k ram. > Core memory, too. Not transistors. Ah, core... what a luxury. True random access. No need to distribute your data on the drum to minimize rotational latency. - Joe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:39:54 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: ANN:PNR v4.0 and PAL ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE SUPPLEMENT Palmtop News Reader Version 4.0 New Features: - You can attach binary files as MIME attachments - When you reply you can add the original message as a MIME attachment. PAL ASSEMBLY LANGUGAE SUPPLEMENT - Contains source code for assembly language versions of the low level functions of the PAL Library (based on PAL version 1.6) You can find both of these at my website: www.geocities.com/david_becher Enjoy! -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 18:31:44 +0200 Reply-To: davidb@netmedia.net.il Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: David Becher Subject: Re: Group Project Evan Person writes: > What I was thinking about was eventually going the other > way. Taking a comma-delimited file that is output from > another database format and from that generate an HPLX > database file. The comma-delimited format being a common > output format from other various programs that convert other > database formats. Isnt this what GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP do? I have several times taken CSV files from EXCEL and created an HPLX database from them. -- ** David Becher ** davidb@netmedia.net.il davidb@cimatron.co.il ** www.cimatron.co.il ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:53:14 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Come on, Ken. Lighten up. Surely you didn't think I was making a serious statement. And yes. I'm a retired programmer. I've memorized everything in every computer book ever written. A remarkable feat since I never read manuals. I know the instruction set of every cpu and all their timings under all circumstances. I know the specs of every peripheral chip. I've memorized every version of the standards for every language. I can recite the ASCII table and the EBCDIC table forward, backwards or interlaced. I've memorized the decimal/hex converson table for every possible number (except 3. that one always throws me). And I know very well what a bit bucket is, having emptied many of them. Which brings up an interesting ecological issue. Does anyone know if bits are biodegradable? Barry From: "KenLondon" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Group project > Barry wrote: > > > > Lazy Nathalie Bugeaud wrote: > > > > > > Dr. Charles Shaefer says he'd rather > > > leave his stethoscope at home than his > > > Palm. > > > > Doctors are getting so lazy. You're just supposed to know all > > this stuff. Come on. What if you have to save a life and your > > battery is dead? > > > > Barry > > > In defense of doctors have you looked at how big the PDR is? How many > drugs there are? Have you ever looked up how many diseases there are? > In this case you should lay off the good doctor. What profression are > you in? > Have you memorized every conceivable tidbit your profression uses? > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:00:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry In-Reply-To: <001001c09e8a$a9adf7c0$7efc36d8@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry writes: > I can recite the ASCII table and the EBCDIC table forward, > backwards or interlaced. So? What about Unicode? I had that memorized back in the '70s. - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:57:52 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: Re: Group project Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 11:43 AM Subject: FLUFF: Re: Group project > Barry writes: > > I learned to program at school on an IBM 360/20 with 8k ram. > > Core memory, too. Not transistors. > > Ah, core... what a luxury. True random access. > No need to distribute your data on the drum to > minimize rotational latency. Yeah, I got in the business kind of late. I've seen pictures of drums but I've never actually seen one. By the way, I read recently that the bits in a byte on a CD are distributed fairly widely to increase the odds that no more than 2 bits will be destroyed by a scratch. They use 2 parity bits. Cute idea. But maybe it's not as original as I thought. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 11:59:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: "Joseph S. Barrera III" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" To: "HPLX Mailing List" ; "Barry" Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: Re: Group project > Barry writes: > > I can recite the ASCII table and the EBCDIC table forward, > > backwards or interlaced. > > So? What about Unicode? I had that memorized back in the '70s. Shhhhh! You're embarassing me. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 12:14:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: Group Project Comments: To: davidb@netmedia.net.il MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Becher wrote: > Isnt this what GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP do? I have several times taken CSV files > from EXCEL and created an HPLX database from them. Could be. Never heard of them. Is the source code available? Where can I get copies of them? Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 19:40:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Group Project In-Reply-To: <3A97F9F3.560C2772@mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David Becher wrote: > Isnt this what GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP do? I have several times taken CSV files > from EXCEL and created an HPLX database from them. Almost. GDBLOAD will load data into a database, but it will not generate the database from scratch - you need an exisiting database to add entries to. On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Evan Person wrote: > Could be. Never heard of them. Is the > source code available? Where can I get > copies of them? You can get both at www.palmtop.net. Do a search for GDBLOAD or GDBDUMP and you should get links to both the source code (portable C code) and binaries for DOS. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:41:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Kopplin wrote: > Last June you made some nonsense comments about what a terrible > job D&A Software was doing advertising their products. Now > you're complaining when they send a brief product announcement > to the list, which many on the list will be interested in. At that time the Palmtop paper was being publiushed which is where these announcements belong. Now that the palmptop paper is gone.... I'm not sure where they should go. If ads for D&A are going to be allowed then maybe all ads should be allowed. Are other vendors allowed to advertise on this list? I haven't seen very many others. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:45:33 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Group project Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > Come on, Ken. Lighten up. Surely you didn't think I was making > a serious statement. Yes I did think you were serious....doctors get alot of heat these days and I thought you were dead serious. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:48:10 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Isnt this what GDBLOAD and GDBDUMP do? I have several times taken CSV files > > from EXCEL and created an HPLX database from them. > > Could be. Never heard of them. Is the > source code available? Where can I get > copies of them? http://www.palmtop.net/supernew.html Search for "gdbload". Like David says, it's close to what you want except it can't handle all of the appointment book or world-time DB fields. The source is available at the site also. What would be nice is an interface (pseudo-GUI) that uses GDBDUMP/GDBLOAD (or some similar program) and a nice selection list of DBs to translate from/to, along with any necessary details (like which fields get dropped, or how to handle discrepancies such as differing field sizes or incompatible types, etc). Design it so others can "snap-on" added bi-directional modules onto the main interface for new DBs that become of interest. New modules can be loosely coupled to the others by adding a file or two and an entry in an INI file. In the end, this can both keep the LX useful or serve as a spring-board for those needing to migrate to a new platform (seems like Barry's mentioned all this before ... sorry, I may not have been paying close attention the last few weeks). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:33:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Guenther Helmuth E." Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Guenther Helmuth E." Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mike, > You just like to complain don't you. Doesn't matter what. You'll > even switch positions if it means you can spew more crap. Why > don't you stop posting until you have something worthwhile to > contribute. Thank you Mike, you hit the nail!! There are only few of us left and I appreciate any helpful comment as much as any *non* destructive contribution. I am very sorry that so many participants left!! For me the latest POST/LX version is an outstanding version. Really it does a lot. Andreas all my respect! It is worthwhile reading the docs: Version 3.1a ------------ - Made message parsing fully case independent - POST/LX now supports display of 2-level MIME-encoded messages (message within a message). Such messages were displayed empty before. - POST.EXE now uses font routines that allocate memory outside of the POST/LX memory. Thus more memory remains when using a non-built-in font in message view and thus there is less likelyhood for PalMemFail. - HTML parts of MIME-encoded messages are now treated the same as binary attachments. - When downloading messages using IMAP4 and delete-after-download is not set, messages are no longer marked as "read" on the server. - When downloading message using IMAP4 and the message on the server is marked as "read", it is no longer marked as new on the palmtop. - Messages found on a IMAP4 server that are found in a .RED file are marked as "read" on the server - When a message in POST/LX is marked as "read" ("New" flag is cleared), it is added to the .RED file. - Messages found on a IMAP4 server that are found in a .URE file are marked as "unread" on the server - When a message in POST/LX is marked as "unread" ("New" flag is set using Ctrl-N), it is added to the .URE file. - Note that when messages are marked on a IMAP4 server as read/unread by = a different software, that new status is not updated in POST/LX unless the message is downloaded anew, i.e. "Download old messages" is selected. So to get an exact copy of the state on the server, delete all messages on the palmtop and select "download old" (or delete the .I and .OLD file). - ALT B in list view toggles boldfacing of selected message - ALT R is list view reveals deleted messages (DEL toggles delete state) - Fixed bug in IMAP code: after last message POST/LX expected a "BAD" answer to the request for the next (nonexistant) message, but some servers seem to send a "NO" answer. POST/LX now can handle both. - Improved own-ddress-removal heuristics for ALT-Reply - ALT-A in list view or message view lets you edit and store an annotation for the current message. It is displayed prominently when the message is shown. Note that this feature abuses the To: header store the text and that the text may be at most as long as the original To: header was. - In addition to the "bullet" in list view, there is now also an announciator "new" in the top line. - Reply-to-all now leaves addresses that were in "Cc:" in "Cc:" (were moved to "To:") - TopBytes=3D in a IMAP4 box tells POST/LX to download the first bytes only if headers are downloaded (e.g. if a size limit is reached). The minimum that can be set is 6000 so that the risk that headers are truncated is low (the number *includes* the headers!). - Clog=3D-1 even prevents warnings such as "more than 50%" quoting" or "check addresses" - Add-on: PIP.EXE packs files in place, i.e. needs less disk space and is usually much faster than the built-in packing algorithm of POST/LX - Probably fixed the problem that the first line in message view sometimes displays junk. - made it more difficult to hack the registration code by disassembling the program. Hopefully the rest will stay together here with constructive contribution. I would miss it! Kind regards Helmuth ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:19:57 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: HPLX-L Policy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:31:18 -0500 (EST) First, my aplogies to the 99% of you this does not apply to. Truth is I don't have time to go thru the past few months archives, and single out the other 1% of the people on this LIST that are making it a real chore to read. Appropriate vendor announcements are not only allowed, they are encouraged. They are a service to the 95/100/200/700LX community. What is not allowed are rude and inflamatory comments. I offered to host this LIST because I had the resources at my disposal, and I wanted to contribute to the community that helped me so much when I got started. FLUFF and Off Topic is OK as long as so designated, so others who are not interested can filter it out. Rude behavior is not OK! If you have a gripe with someone, TAKE IT OFF THIS LIST! Insult each other on your own time, not mine(ours). I will try my best to take a more active roll in administrating this LIST, and hope I can make this LIST a more pleasent place in the future. Again my apologies to the 99% Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 13:32:21 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , D&A Software Information Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: D&A Software Information Subject: Correction: Post/LX 3.1a Announcement MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Folks, Forgive me - I screwed up. I apologized to Andreas and to the beta - they worked hard to get up, tested, and running the list of features you will see below - and I mentioned two small items of the whole thing. I now apologize to you all for the mistake, the extra bandwidth etc... (I was forwarded Nathalie's comment on mid-life crisis and Palm - she is right but off by a few years - I am waaaay pas the mid-life crisis, and bought a PalmPilot from Al Kind about 2 years ago - still is not as useful as the 200LX Palmtop on a day-to-day basis...) So the list I _should_ have put up about Post/LX 3.1a is this: Post/LX Version 3.1a -------------------- - Message parsing is now fully independent of letter case. - POST/LX now supports display of 2-level MIME-encoded messages (message within a message). Such messages were displayed empty before. - POST.EXE now uses font routines that allocate memory outside of the POST/LX memory. Thus more memory remains when using a non-built-in font in message view and thus there is less likelyhood for PalMemFail. - HTML parts of MIME-encoded messages are now treated the same as binary attachments. - When downloading messages using IMAP4 and delete-after- download is not set, messages are no longer marked as "read" on the server. - When downloading message using IMAP4 and the message on the server is marked as "read", it is no longer marked as new on the palmtop. - Messages found on a IMAP4 server that are found in a .RED file are marked as "read" on the server - When a message in POST/LX is marked as "read" ("New" flag is cleared), it is added to the .RED file. - Messages found on a IMAP4 server that are found in a .URE file are marked as "unread" on the server - When a message in POST/LX is marked as "unread" ("New" flag is set using Ctrl-N), it is added to the .URE file. - Note that when messages are marked on a IMAP4 server as read/unread by a different software, that new status is not updated in POST/LX unless the message is downloaded anew, i.e. "Download old messages" is selected. So to get an exact copy of the state on the server, delete all messages on the palmtop and select "download old" (or delete the .I and .OLD file). - ALT B in list view toggles boldface display of selected message in the list. - ALT R is list view reveals deleted messages (DEL toggles delete state) - Fixed bug in IMAP code: after last message POST/LX expected a "BAD" answer to the request for the next (nonexistant) message, but some servers seem to send a "NO" answer. POST/LX now can handle both. - Improved own-ddress-removal heuristics for ALT-Reply - In addition to the "bullet" in list view, there is now also an announciator "new" in the top line. - Reply-to-all now leaves addresses that were in "Cc:" in "Cc:" (were moved to "To:") - Added a warning for reply-to-all: check all addresses! There are far to many potential problems for POST/LX to be handled. - TopBytes= in a IMAP4 box tells POST/LX to download the first bytes only if headers are downloaded (e.g. if a size limit is reached). The minimum that can be set is 6000 so that the risk that headers are truncated is low (the number *includes* the headers!). - Clog=-1 even prevents warnings such as "more than 50%" quoting" or "check addresses" - Add-on: PIP.EXE packs files in place, i.e. needs less disk space and is usually much faster than the built-in packing algorithm of POST/LX - Probably fixed the problem that the first line in message view sometimes displays junk. Hope this is useful to you! Avi Meshar D&A Software http://www.dasoft.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 16:11:55 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Thomas Rundel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Thomas Rundel Subject: Re: FLUFF: Nathalie on everything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 21 Feb 2001 06:17:02 +0100, Nathalie Bugeaud = wrote: > My main reason why i am (still) on the list is the sum of member's IQ > multiplied by the number of messages and divided by the sum of those > member's IQ who posted them. This number seems declining but is still = higher > than the PALM and WIN-CE lists. Nathalie, could you post details on that WIN-CE list? I am quite tired of the noise level of newsgroups, and would like to try subscribing to a list as an alternative. Tom ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 18:03:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FLUFF:Re: Correction: Post/LX 3.1a Announcement Comments: To: D&A Software Information MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sat, 24 Feb 2001 17:53:31 -0500 (EST) Oh Fine! Implicate me why don't you ;-) Cheers...AJKind(40ish) 01h21m10s ago ... On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, D&A Software Information wrote: > ... - I am waaaay pas the mid-life > crisis, and bought a PalmPilot from Al Kind about 2 years ago > - still is not as useful as the 200LX Palmtop on a day-to-day > basis...) > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:09:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: FLUFF:Re: Correction: Post/LX 3.1a Announcement Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Kind writes: > Oh Fine! Implicate me why don't you ;-) Hmm, that's not exactly a denial... - Joe :-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:53:21 +0800 Reply-To: star_byte@iprimus.com.au Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Oldenhuis Subject: Re: FLUFF:FS: Unused HP 200LX Comments: To: TomSalwasser@COMPUSERVE.COM In-Reply-To: <001001c09e69$087f77a0$228bc0d8@tvs> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Tom : HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Subject: FLUFF:FS: Unused HP 200LX Hello! The auction for my unused 200lx is almost over. Please click the link below if you're interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1215215717 I'm very surprised on what price you get for your 200lx I bought my 200lx 2meg for $60 Australian and my son got his for $80 Australian $60 Australian is about $32 American Cheers Harry Best Regards, Tom Salwasser ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 20:35:55 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: OBD Scan Tool MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have any recommendations for OBD I/II scan tools? Most desireable would include DOS software/interface that would run on the LX. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:53:20 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > How many people on this list use Notes and would have a use for > something like this? Can we get a show of hands? I (have to) use Lotus Notes, version 5(.1 I think), but I probably would not use a sync tool. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:53:23 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released Comments: To: KenLondon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit KenLondon wrote: > D&A Software wrote: > > D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a > > - Clog=-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. > > Like ads from D&A software??????? I don't think news of improvements to one of the most popular LX software programs qualifies as annoying or glog or fluff. It is far more on topic than much of what I delete here every day. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:53:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ken London wrote: > If ads for D&A are going to be > allowed then maybe all ads should be allowed. Are other vendors > allowed to advertise on this list? I haven't seen very many others. I welcome ads from anyone for any LX product. Our problem isn't too many ads, instead it's far too few LX products to advertise. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 03:53:29 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Fluff: Re: HPLX-L Policy Comments: To: MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al Kind wrote: > First, my aplogies to the 99% of you this does not apply to. > I will try my best to take a more active roll in administrating this > LIST, and hope I can make this LIST a more pleasent place in the > future. Again my apologies to the 99% Al, thanks for efforts. Your contribution is VERY appreciated! I hope you don't have to spend additional time 'managing' the list; we should all know how to behave in public. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:37 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > To: > at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 > > Unfortunately, I can't join you this evening, I will have a work = meeting. C'est la vie :) I'll finish mine off before (g) > But salute Daniel for me... Of course. > > Metro Louvre Rivoli > > Wrong info : Odeon is much better... > But Louvre is good if you want to cross the Seine river at night, by = the > "Pont Neuf" bridge or the "Pont des arts". Very nice view... I enjoy the walk very much. And Louvre is a "clean" metro station as compared to the rest. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jacques, > Unfortunately, we don't keep contact together, but I know he is more > active on the HPHAND forum, where he arrived just after I quit it. HPHAND is closed and has been merged with PALMTOPS. Traffic is very low and so are posts from Daniel who seems to be very busy doing something else :) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > D&A Software wrote: > > > D&A Software is happy to announce that Post/LX Version 3.1a > > was released today. There are two main items of interest: > > > > - Clog=3D-1 now stops another class of annoying "Clog" messages. > > Like ads from D&A software??????? Furtunately Avi does not see this. Ken : is this type of reply really necessary ? HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:59:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Helge Holm Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Helge Holm Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use Notes 4.6, and need a sync tool. Helge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tomas Moberg" To: Sent: 24. februar 2001 14:40 Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch > Barry wrote: > ... > > How many people on this list use Notes and would have a use for > > something like this? Can we get a show of hands? > ... > > I use Lotus Notes 4.5 and would use a "sync" tool. > > /tomas moberg > Uppsala > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:11:06 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to Stefan Peichl I have started using PALMPC to emulate the HP200LX on my WinNT labtop. The display is superior (=3Drectangular without distortions) to the one when using PALRUN (fullscreen distorted). I mainly use it in conjunction with PalEdit and PIM/PE. Now here is the culprit : While Palrun works without problems PALMPC freezes the labtop when issuing Ctrl-??? commands from within PalEdit such as - Ctrl-G : jump to line - Ctrl-C : create outlines or subsets - Ctrl-X-?? : start external programs ... I need to kill the process then with the help of the task manager of Win. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:51:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: FLUFF: male menopause MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Is that the official medical definition of male menopause? There is no official definition. It usually involves a red sports car = and a girl young enough to be your child, however. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:51:40 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: FLUFF: doctors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Doctors are getting so lazy. You're just supposed to know all > this stuff. Come on. What if you have to save a life and your > battery is dead? Pretending that you know what you are doing is an important medical skill = (I will let you all speculate about hew serious I am ) Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 07:57:24 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Evan Person Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Evan Person Subject: Re: OBD Scan Tool Comments: To: "Robert K. Meyer" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Robert K. Meyer" wrote: > Does anyone have any recommendations for OBD I/II scan > tools? Most desireable would include DOS software/interface > that would run on the LX. I looked into this about 5 years ago, so my information is somewhat dated. At that time there was a company in Chicago that made the software.to do this on a DOS laptop or PC. The product was called DIACOM and it cost about $800. It was more money than I wanted to spend so I just dropped the project. Their contact information, if they're still around, is: Rinda Technologies 5112 North Elston Ave. Chicago, IL 60630 Phone: 312-736-6633 IIRC DIACOM interfaces via the parallel port on a DOS laptop and will probably not work on a 200LX. I was thinking that the interface specs are probably public information, so a programmer could write an interface. The problem is making an interface cable. Maybe a 200LX/OBD interface would be a good group project. I have been having enough recurring problems with my wife's '97 Grand Cherokee to still be interested in this project. Evan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:53:59 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? In-Reply-To: <200102250704.f1P74VZ26201@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Keeping this short -- does anyone remember/have URLs to some of the language translation sites? I want to be able to view non-English web pages and have a passable translation into English and would also like a site where you could type-in phrases and have them translated (both "directions" English-to-whatever and whatever-to-English). And, a friend is trying to translate a document written in Macedonian(!). I think that's goint go be hard to find. Any thoughts/help? TIA for all help -- I turned to this list, 'cause I know I've seen such things here before and we have such a smart international mix on our list! --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:54:02 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Has anyone made USB work w/ the LX? In-Reply-To: <200102250704.f1P74VZ26201@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anyone's successfully gotten the LX hooked up through a USB port (and moved files around or treated an LX like an external drive or set of drives). I imagine those PC-Card USB critters 1) take too much power and 2) lack DOS 5.0 drivers ... but what about the USB-to-serial converters used w/ a few devices (one is made by Palm; and the other I know of is for the Dymo labelwriter). It would be neat if the PC-Card worked, as I imagined it would be faster, but the serial answer would give folks another option for a CF Card reader . Just wondering/hoping. Thanks for any input or help!! --tim PS. I'm open to beta-test anything someone's written for the LX. That's my way of saying I'm not smart enough to make gunpowder, but I'll play w/ it, if someone can make it for me . ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:15:42 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: ANN:PNR v4.0 and PAL ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE SUPPLEMENT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > David Becher Announced: > > PAL ASSEMBLY LANGUGAE SUPPLEMENT > - Contains source code for assembly language > versions of the low level functions > of the PAL Library (based on PAL version 1.6) Did you determine how much space you saved doing this? Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:31:19 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Robert K. Meyer" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Robert K. Meyer" Subject: Re: OBD Scan Tool Comments: To: Evan Person MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evan Person wrote: > > I looked into this about 5 years ago, so my information is somewhat > dated. At that time there was a company in Chicago that made the > software.to do this on a DOS laptop or PC. The product was called > DIACOM and it cost about $800. It was more money than > I wanted to spend so I just dropped the project. Their contact > information, if they're still around, is: > > Rinda Technologies > 5112 North Elston Ave. > Chicago, IL 60630 > Phone: 312-736-6633 > > IIRC DIACOM interfaces via the parallel port on a DOS > laptop and will probably not work on a 200LX. I was > thinking that the interface specs are probably public > information, so a programmer could write an interface. > The problem is making an interface cable. Maybe a > 200LX/OBD interface would be a good group project. > I have been having enough recurring problems with my > wife's '97 Grand Cherokee to still be interested in this > project. I'm checking it out right now at http://www.rinda.com/ Looks to be as you mentioned with parallel interface. Bob -- R.K. Meyer MSEE K7PPC bmeyer@union-tel.com Elk Mountain WY http://w3.union-tel.com/~bmeyer/ The stone... Psa 118:22 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:35:43 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group Project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been talking somewhat along these lines but I've been thinking more in terms of either a reader for each type of external database on the LX or a seperate conversion program for each external type. I like the way you've put it together. Using the existing databases as a starting point for this is a particularly good idea. This might be worth looking into more closely. The GUI might be a problem since it would have to accomodate so many different external database formats and they won't all be known ahead of time, but I think that's doable if the design is flexible enough. It could even have something like a simplified GUI API to be called by the modules or setup in configuration files accompanying the modules. Barry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Longden Loo said: What would be nice is an interface (pseudo-GUI) that uses GDBDUMP/GDBLOAD (or some similar program) and a nice selection list of DBs to translate from/to, along with any necessary details (like which fields get dropped, or how to handle discrepancies such as differing field sizes or incompatible types, etc). Design it so others can "snap-on" added bi-directional modules onto the main interface for new DBs that become of interest. New modules can be loosely coupled to the others by adding a file or two and an entry in an INI file. In the end, this can both keep the LX useful or serve as a spring-board for those needing to migrate to a new platform (seems like Barry's mentioned all this before ... sorry, I may not have been paying close attention the last few weeks). <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:39:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Apology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software (Avi). They were uncalled for. I'm still waiting for apologies for the dozens of times I was misquoted. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:30:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? Comments: To: palmtop@n-link.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit babel.altavista.com HTH, Ken ------Original Message------ From: Tim To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: February 25, 2001 3:53:59 PM GMT Subject: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? Hi All, Keeping this short -- does anyone remember/have URLs to some of the language translation sites? I want to be able to view non-English web pages and have a passable translation into English and would also like a site where you could type-in phrases and have them translated (both "directions" English-to-whatever and whatever-to-English). And, a friend is trying to translate a document written in Macedonian(!). I think that's goint go be hard to find. Any thoughts/help? TIA for all help -- I turned to this list, 'cause I know I've seen such things here before and we have such a smart international mix on our list! --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:29:58 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Apology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 25 Feb 2001 12:27:18 -0500 (EST) Apology accepted. I would Remind all that it is the responsibility of the message author to quote correctly. Please reread your responses before posting to make sure that you are quoting correctly, editing manually if necessary. Cheers...AJKind 47m60s ago ... On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software > (Avi). They were uncalled for. I'm still waiting for apologies for = the > dozens of times I was misquoted. > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 09:48:20 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Joseph S. Barrera III" Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: TO field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: "Joseph S. Barrera III" Subject: Re: Apology In-Reply-To: <3A993536.C3A42666@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London writes: > I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software > (Avi). They were uncalled for. I'm still waiting for apologies for the > dozens of times I was misquoted. Barry already apologized: On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 10:24:44 -0600, Barry wrote: > > Ken London wrote: > > > > If i'm going to be slammed then I expect > > apologies for the dozens of times I've > > been misquoted. > > I apologize for the dozens of times you've been misquoted. > > Barry But I will also apologize as well: I apologize for the dozens of times you've been misquoted. - Joe ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:48:02 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd love to be able to join you two. It would be great to exchange notes with Daniel about the HP41 for which I wrote many programs that I still use. AND the chance to brush up my French and German would just round off what should be a perfect evening. Enjoy your evening Richard. HP Staber wrote: > > > To: > at Restaurant: Vagenende 1900 on Tue Feb 27 at 20:30 > > > > Unfortunately, I can't join you this evening, I will have a work meeting. > > C'est la vie :) I'll finish mine off before (g) > > > But salute Daniel for me... > > Of course. > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:55:37 -0600 Reply-To: palmtop@n-link.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tim Subject: Re: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? In-Reply-To: <384069882.983122204054.JavaMail.root@web537-wrb.mail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit re: babel.altavista.com Super! Thanks!! Now all I have to do is find someone who speaks Macedonian ÝMy niece received a note from a pen-pal in ... you guessed it, Macedonian¨. I've bookmarked the site you sent me! It will help w/ my other desires to see what other pages are talking about! Take Care, --tim ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 11:05:26 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: Apology In-Reply-To: <3A993536.C3A42666@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software Then I apologize for the comments I made to you. Mike Kopplin ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:08:34 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "David B. Rogers" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "David B. Rogers" Subject: Re: Apology Comments: To: kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I am sorry I have had to wade through all this crap. Why does all of this have to be done through the reflector instead of through private emails? David, WA7ZYQ Mike Kopplin wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > > > I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software > > > Then I apologize for the comments I made to you. > > Mike Kopplin > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml -- "It's a damned poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." Andrew Jackson ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:44:32 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: Apology MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:29:19 -0500 (EST) I require PUBLIC apologies for transgressions on this LIST. What you say about each other(or me for that matter) is up to you and your conscience. I certainly don't consider any apology "crap" as you put it. Al Kind HPLX-L Administrator 20m45s ago ... On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, David B. Rogers wrote: > And I am sorry I have had to wade through all this crap. > > Why does all of this have to be done through the reflector > instead of through private emails? > > David, WA7ZYQ > > ... -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 13:59:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: hphand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now that HP hand on compuserve is part of another group is there anything worthwhile on compuserve anymore? After following it for many years it is sad to see it disappear. HP hand was one of the few reasons why I stuck with compuserve for a few years. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:11:05 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Tamas Feher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Tamas Feher Subject: Syncing or converting to/from Lotus Domino MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello all, Lotus Notes/Domino R5 is a great, reliable and highly secure product, but it's takes rocket science to make set it up well and develop applications for it. Afterwards it will just run itself hasslefree. So maybe it would be a better idea for LX owners intertested in 200LX <-> Domino functionality to donate some cash and use the collected amount to pay a commercial developer firm to implement everything. Well, if you choose a company in a non-G7 country, your money will worth more, as in some places programmers work (almost) for food. But of course that does not mean they are less professional! There are at least two solely Lotus-oriented firms in Hungary and you will surely find more in other ex-socialist countries. Could ask about how much they ask for either a sync or a conversion implementation work. Sincerely: Tamas Feher ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:44:10 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Longden Loo (I got the name right this time) wrote (>): > Exiting back to the topcard (or AppMgr) the > next day usually results in the running of the > backup ... not necessarily a bad thing for me, > but not always the best timing either. > So in short, I'd like to know also ... tho I > suspect the only thing to do may be to boot > the LX from the DOS application in order to > stop the auto-execute (just a guess). I didn't think of this possibility. I put "scancode reboot" at the end of = my batch file after finishing HFFAX now, so hopefully it will ignore the = missed appointments. As HFFAX will only run in a clean DOS session, I'm = doing quite a bit of trickery with different batch files being copied = around etc. > PS - Owen, did you ever get your weather > icon? I deleted a bunch of email accidentally > and didn't know if you ever requested one > from me. Yes, thanks I got some. However, none that had isobars in them which would = be more appropriate for the weatherfax icon. I suppose I could cut and = paste something from one of the weatherfaxes I've received. What is the = file format of the icon files? What software can I use to make one? PS. It took me quite some head scratching to figure out how to make appt = manager find the new icon! I couldn't find the info anywhere in the manual, = but I guessed it in the end... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway And no, Nathalie, I'm retired from the rat race (the rats won...), but not = from work... :o( I work hard six months every year to finance six months of = sailing. At the moment, I'm working as a bricklayer outdoors in mid winter = and enjoying it more than I would have thought possible... In May, I'll = flutter my wings once again and sail on into to midnight sun. http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:09:17 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: male menopause MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:51:37 -0500, Steve Carder wrote: Dr Carder > > Is that the official medical definition of male menopause? > > There is no official definition. It usually involves a red sports car and a > girl young enough to be your child, however. |X| Red sports car | | Young girl (it ended before I got the car(but I had a motorcycle :-)) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:37:49 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: FLUFF: male menopause Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sunday, 25.02.2001 at 21:09 GMT, Martin Bergvill wrote: > |X| Red sports car > | | Young girl (it ended before I got the car(but I had a motorcycle :-)) > I'm not a doctor, but I would rate a motorcycle, especially one with 1000 cc or more (or a Harley) at least as high as a red sports car. :-) Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 16:43:53 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released Comments: To: HP Staber In-Reply-To: <200102250704.f1P74ZZ26212@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> Like ads from D&A software??????? >>Furtunately Avi does not see this. Ken : is this type of reply really >>necessary ? hopefully he just forgot to ad the ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:39:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: FLUFF: male menopause Comments: To: BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Do you mean a Harley or a motorcycle? Regards Andrew At 22:37 25/02/2001 +0100, you wrote: >On Sunday, 25.02.2001 at 21:09 GMT, Martin Bergvill wrote: >> |X| Red sports car >> | | Young girl (it ended before I got the car(but I had a motorcycle :-)) >> >I'm not a doctor, but I would rate a motorcycle, especially one with 1000 >cc or more (or a Harley) at least as high as a red sports car. :-) > >Ulrich Boche > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:35:32 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bob Christopher Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Christopher Subject: Senders Missing In GP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When I first set up Goin' Postal the email I received had the originating sender's email address listed. Now, every msg from HPLX-L simply shows up as HPLX-L as the sender and the originator's name, email, id, etc have vanished. I've revisited all the GP settings and nothing has changed. Any one else experiencing this? Bob Bob Christopher Littleton, Colorado USA bob@palmtop.com HP 200-LX Palmtop = DOS Were The Days = ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:33:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <200102250704.f1P74VZ26201@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:37 +0100 HP Staber a =E9crit: > And Louvre is a "clean" metro station as > compared to the rest. Too clean, I would say.=20 They just made some work at the entrance, and all the antics reproductions you can see before are gone... :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 00:33:12 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <200102250704.f1P74XZ26206@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:39 +0100 HP Staber a =E9crit: > HPHAND is closed and has been merged with PALMTOPS.=20 Yes, I know. :-(=20 Fortunately, it seems that all uploaded files are here (giving the fact that all programs I uploaded in HPHAND seems to be in the new section). But, even outside of the HP forum interest, I would say that all other sections (like the Associated Press french section) I used to go are gone. Then I still have my compuserve account, but it is only for access to my mail when I am outside of France, or to download some old files which are not available on the Internet... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:14:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Martin Bergvill Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Martin Bergvill Subject: Re: FLUFF: male menopause MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:37:49 +0100, Ulrich Boche wrote: Ulrich > On Sunday, 25.02.2001 at 21:09 GMT, Martin Bergvill wrote: > > |X| Red sports car > > | | Young girl (it ended before I got the car(but I had a motorcycle :-)) > > > I'm not a doctor, but I would rate a motorcycle, especially one with 1000 > cc or more (or a Harley) at least as high as a red sports car. :-) I am not a doctor either, but I know from my own experience that young girls are in to sportbikes and not slow moving gigantic Harleys..:-) (http://fasthplx.bergvill.com/ :-)) Regards -- Martin Bergvill ,Narvik Norway ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:19:24 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Big fat CF cards. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! Does anyone have any tips on where to buy a big CF card? I'll be using it = in my MC218, so it has to be CF I. I already have an 80Mb Lexar, so I'd be = looking for 128Mb or preferably more, but don't want to spend much more = than UKP 200 (USD 280). Any ideas? What is the biggest CF I card available at the moment, and what would that = cost? Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:22:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: hphand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Now that HP hand on compuserve is part > of another group is there anything > worthwhile on compuserve anymore? I still visit the combined Palmtop forum on Compuserve. Just this week = we talked a guy into upgrading his DOS only 1000CX to a 200LX. So, some = things are still happening. I still use Compuserve Classic as my ISP for my palmtop. I haven't had = the connection problems others have experienced, so I plan to stick with my = 9.95 for 5 hours per month Compuserve account for now. Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:22:30 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , steve@CARDERFAMILY.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Steve Carder Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>Yes, thanks I got some. However, none that had isobars in them which = would be more appropriate for the weatherfax icon. I suppose I could cut and = paste something from one of the weatherfaxes I've received. What is the file = format of the icon files? What software can I use to make one?<< The 200LX has a built-in icon editor. D:\bin\icn200lx.exe Steven A. Carder M.D. PGP public key on the server at http://pgp.mit.edu ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:42:47 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Trade For Palm MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I currently have a need for a Palm VII or VIIx. I am wondering if anyone has one that would like to trade for a 32MB LX or would be willing to purchase on for trade of an LX? Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:31:09 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , HP Staber Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Le Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:37 +0100 > HP Staber a =E9crit: > > > And Louvre is a "clean" metro station as > > compared to the rest. > > Too clean, I would say. > They just made some work at the entrance, and all the antics > reproductions you can see before are gone... :-( Ah thats bad. An "upgrade" to the Metro ;-) HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:28:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris Comments: To: HP Staber MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit HP Staber wrote: > > > > Le Sun, 25 Feb 2001 08:04:37 +0100 > > HP Staber a icrit: > > > > > And Louvre is a "clean" metro station as > > > compared to the rest. > > > > Too clean, I would say. > > They just made some work at the entrance, and all the antics > > reproductions you can see before are gone... :-( > > Ah thats bad. An "upgrade" to the Metro ;-) > > HP Staber/Salzburg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml After seeing MBTA stations here in Massachusetts, how can a station be 'too' clean? Locally they seem to be in a contest to see which station is the dirtiest and smelliest. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:32:08 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <> Actually, what I want to know is why Owen is in Dos on the HP doing anything else while awaiting a weather fax. If I recall, the HP was not very useful compared with his other platform! (G) Are _WE_ finding the HP more useful and versatile than expected, Owen? (gd&r) (just in a mood as I am immersed in remodeling a kitchen!!!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:32:10 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Fluff Re: Group project Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > He was just kidding. I'm sure Nathalie knows that ... she's pretty smart > .... even on low batteries. > > - Longden One too many dots there, Longden! (G) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:25:52 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , gonter@WHISKY.WU-WIEN.AC.AT Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Evan Person wrote: > Barry wrote: > > What about a converter from these various formats to the 200lx > > database format? > > I started working on this project but work > and school got in the way and I never finished > it. The 200LX database format is public > information. ... and there are already tools to work with 200LX GDB/NDB files, e.g. a Perl 5 module that can be found on http://hp200lx-db.sourceforge.net/ +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 19:26:44 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , gonter@WHISKY.WU-WIEN.AC.AT Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > What about a converter from these various formats to the 200lx > database format? Good idea. > There are a lot of them in TealInfo format on the Palm. Some of > the best ones. TealInfo isn't exactly a database but it's > similar. Ý...¨ Do you have pointers to more detailed information about that? +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:14:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Rename from batch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, DOS gurus, I need to write a batch file that renames some files, so I put in the line d:\dos\ren \path\file1.exe file2.exe. I got a "bad command or file name" when the batch file was run. But when I started DOS and run this command, it worked fine. I checked d:\dos, and sure enough, there is no "ren" command in the directory. But I suspect that it is included in "command.com". I should be grateful for any idea on how to call the rename command from a batch file. Thanks in advance. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:22:38 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Klaus Reinhardt Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Klaus Reinhardt Subject: Re: Rename from batch Comments: To: LEONG Ka Tai MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LEONG Ka Tai wrote: > I need to write a batch file that renames some files, so I put > in the line > d:\dos\ren \path\file1.exe file2.exe. ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE start ------------------- Hi For ren you have to be in the dir; so do a cd. K@Rdt ----------------- mailto:K.Rdt@TU-Berlin.DE !end! ------------------- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:31:34 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Rename from batch In-Reply-To: <3A9ABB0E.60C2@TU-Berlin.DE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Klaus Reinhardt wrote: > For ren you have to be in the dir; so do a cd. Please check your facts. Rename works fine with a path specifying the file you wish to rename. However, you cannot put a path in front of the rename command, since it is an internal command. Simply use this in the batch file: ren \path\file1.exe file2.exe Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:40:34 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HP Staber wrote: > Thanks to Stefan Peichl I have started using PALMPC to emulate the > HP200LX on my WinNT labtop. The display is superior ... Let me summarize the advantages of PALMPC over PALRUN that I found: -all 4 character sets supported -support of clip regions (=3Dlogical screens) -vertical output supported (90 degree rotation) You will not miss these features if you only run PAL applications, because PAL doesn't use these features of the palmtop. But not all programs written for the palmtop use PAL and they may well require PALMPC on the desktop. PALMPC selects EGA mode, whereas PALRUN uses CGA or VGA. D&A products have built in code to run under VGA resoltion if PALRUN is called with this screen mode. Indeed D&A could also add support of EGA resolution. Then you would be able to run for example PE on a full screen desktop with all 4 fonts available. > While Palrun works without problems PALMPC freezes the labtop when > issuing Ctrl-??? commands from within PalEdit such as This problem has AFAIK nothing to do with the emulator in use, but the way how D&A handles keycodes. D&A always uses scan code and ascii code of a key in order to detect it. Because CTRL keys on the desktop have another scancode than on the palmtop, they are not recognized. For example if you try to issue CTRL-Z within PE on the desktop in order to shell to DOS, nothing happens, neither under PALRUN nor PALMPC. The reason is, that CTRL-Z on the palmtop has the code 2C1A hex whereas on the desktop the code is 151A hex. What you can do to overcome this problem is to write macros for desktop use which go the way through the menus instead of using the shortcut CTRL key sequences. Another way would be indeed if D&A would only use ascii codes instead of scan&ascii codes. But that is a big change and requires a lot of testing before anything runs again. But another advantage would be availability of input to the programs through DOS redirection. DOS redirection only offers the ascii code of the character coming in. Regards Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:54:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Yves Leurquin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Yves Leurquin Subject: Re: Resource Sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > I think that's good idea. And the richness of the selection on > the Palm is because of all the specialized things available. > Put enough of them out there and others will find something they > can use. Sharing LX specific format databases and text is very nice but we must recognize that there are many more Palm users and that the wealth of Palm specific format databases and most importantly supported synchronization tools in much larger. SUPER already has some PALM format converters for DOC and PDB Palm = formats and the HPLX ring points to a PALM DB repository. The original idea of synching via a Palm is pretty appealing because the palm DB format should = be more stable in the long run than any desktop based schedule and contact manager hence reducing future maintenance requirement for the Palm-LX = synch module. Also the palm format should be more simple to interface to as it = is designed with a limited capacity platform (a palmtop) in mind. Besides, there is a free Palm emulator for PC available from Palm computin= g (you still need first to download the ROM from a Palm to operate it). = From there you can also view the Palm files in native format. Hence both routes shoule be pursued : share LX specific DB but also try = to interface with the Palm world. Regards, \/ /ves ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:27:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: PAL ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE SUPPLEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" David Becher wrote: > You can find both of these at my website: > www.geocities.com/david_becher Thanks, will take a look at it. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:35:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > re: babel.altavista.com > I've bookmarked the site you sent me! It will help w/ my other desires to > see what other pages are talking about! You might also look at -> http://translategerman.coolmb.com/ Seems to have many of the same language combinations as the other (no Asian languages, nor Macedonian tho) ... sometimes still useful in case one site is down. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:44:35 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FS: 32MB HP200LX w/ stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a 32MB LX with a case, modem and a bunch of Palmtop Paper magazines that I need to sell. Before I place it on eBay I figured I would ask here first. It is in great shape with the exception of the latch which has the usual rubber band fix. Along with the unit I will leave a registered version of WWW/LX and some other goodies :) If you are interested, make me an offer. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 06:46:03 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: Big fat CF cards. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Does anyone have any tips on where to buy a big CF card? I'll be using it in my > MC218, so it has to be CF I. I already have an 80Mb Lexar, so I'd be looking for > 128Mb or preferably more, but don't want to spend much more than UKP 200 (USD > 280). Any ideas? > > What is the biggest CF I card available at the moment, and what would that cost? Sandisk's website seems to indicate that 192mb is their max CF-1 at the moment -> http://www.sandisk.com/cons/photo.htm And it seems the best price for it (at least from CNET) is close to your price range. Here's a California firm offering it for $288 -> http://www.pagecomputer.com/cgi-bin/prodinfo?cd=04&pn=SAD00082 You can get other prices by going to shopper.cnet.com and enter "sandisk 192mb" for the search. Ebay also has it going for about $250, tho there's a decided risk there as well. There's a Canadian offering to sell it (with "buy it now") for $240 -> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1217441179 These are just search tips and not an endorsement of any of the above. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 07:20:18 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , neill currie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: neill currie Subject: "Bruno" and palmtops and Desktop PC's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Since I scour the WinCE boards pretty frequently(I own an HP 548, amongst other smallish computers), I often see posts from people who have paid for an ISP that they use on their Desktop PC, who wish to access the web using the same connection method, but can't. This is usually caused by the fact that the ISP encrypts the User ID and/or the Password, and it is difficult/impossible under "normal" methods to find out what the relevant info should be. "Bruno" and similar ISP's certainly won't help you find out such stuff, but it is in fact pretty easy. I have found that there is also no detection, whereby the ISP can tell if the account is being accessed by more than one computer simultaneously, so I can be on the web with my palmtop, as my wife is on with the PC. I don't think there's anything actually illegal here, it's just my way of circumventing business practices that are designed to maximize profit, and also helping a few people out at the same time. If anyone is interested in some details, maybe they can contact me off-list, at neill1234@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:21:43 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Robert Hocking Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Robert Hocking Subject: Re: Big fat CF cards. Comments: To: Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM In-Reply-To: Depending on what you call big, on PriceWatch I found a Viking 128 CF card for $138 at www.newegg.com. I had to buy the Viking CF card adapter from www.pcupgrades.com for $9. I found this was the size card that was in my price range, and would serve my purpose. I have been using two 40 meg SimpleTech cards for a while now, and decided it was time to upgrade. PriceWatch also lists other size CF cards for sale, if the 128 is not large enough. Best Regards, Robert Hocking ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:26:29 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: "Bruno" and palmtops and Desktop PC's In-Reply-To: <20010226152018.23991.qmail@web1002.mail.yahoo.com> from "neill currie" at Feb 26, 2001 07:20:18 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have found > that there is also no detection, whereby the ISP can > tell if the account is being accessed by more than one > computer simultaneously, so I can be on the web with > my palmtop, as my wife is on with the PC. To the contrary. I used to work closely with some folks who ran an ISP. It is entirely possible, and practical, to periodically check for this. They would frequently make such checks. In their case, it wasn't an illegal practice, just one that resulted in an increased charge to the user. -Chris Lott -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:13:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: IR x-fer LX <-->OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:58:05 -0500 (EST) Hi All: Not which LIST to post this to ;-) but... Has anybody successfully configured a good method to transfer filse between an LX and OB800 vai IR? I have tries X-finder & XFS with little success. I think I tried TransFile as well a while back with no luck. Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:44:03 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: Rename from batch Comments: To: LEONG Ka Tai In-Reply-To: <200102261114.f1QBEKg14859@mail.th.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" HI It should be enough to write ren c:\path\file1.exe c:\path\file2.exe unless you are in the right (sub-)directory, in which you just enter ren file1.exe file2.exe Make sure that your path includes c:\;c:\dos;c:\bat (a tip from an old network manager - always write batch files to launch programs and put them in c:\bat. Then you don't have to mess your search path up with junk, and you do not risk running out of environment space.) Regards Andrew At 06:14 26/02/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, DOS gurus, > >I need to write a batch file that renames some files, so I put >in the line > > d:\dos\ren \path\file1.exe file2.exe. > >I got a "bad command or file name" when the batch file was run. > >But when I started DOS and run this command, it worked fine. > >I checked d:\dos, and sure enough, there is no "ren" command in >the directory. But I suspect that it is included in >"command.com". > >I should be grateful for any idea on how to call the rename >command from a batch file. > >Thanks in advance. > >Ka Tai > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:48:38 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: doctors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Pretending that you know what you are > doing is an important medical skill > (I will let you all speculate about hew > serious I am ) My GP is totally lacking in that skill. I've seen him confused about my condition a number of times. Even when it might be serious, he doesn't try to feign confidence when he isn't sure what's going on. I wouldn't trade him for someone who hid his feelings. That's partly why I've been with him so many years. Best doctor I ever had. On the other hand, when the doctor who was about to do my heart surgery introduced himself to me and I saw that he was the spitting image of Crocodile Dundee (really, grin and all), I knew it was going to be ok. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 10:52:08 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: Language Translation sites? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Tim asked: > > Keeping this short -- does anyone > remember/have URLs to some of > the language translation sites? http://babelfish.altavista.com/translate.dyn Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:13:09 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So maybe it would be a better idea > for LX owners intertested in > 200LX <-> Domino functionality to > donate some cash and use the > collected amount to pay a commercial > developer firm to implement everything. We have some pretty serious development talent on this list. I think Notes development would be pretty small potatos to some people here. In any case, the idea is to have a group project. One where the professionals on the list can handle the heavy programming and design and some of the hobby programmers can contribute what they can. And some hobby programmers are damn good programmers. And this didn't start out as a synching tool, but as a way to access the many Palm databases. We did talk about a synching tool two or three weeks ago but there didn't seem to be much discussion of it so I assumed not many were interested. Also there have been only 3 responses from people who would actually use a tool to synch with Notes. Something you might want to consider is to add a conversion capability to Notes for the particular documents you're involved with into something like a comma delimited format. Or, if that's too difficult, have it output in any consistant format and use Excel or some such to get it into a comma delimited format. That isn't synching, but it might help. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:22:09 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: IR x-fer LX <-->OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Has anybody successfully configured a good method to transfer filse > between an LX and OB800 vai IR? I have tries X-finder & XFS with > little success. I think I tried TransFile as well a while back with > no luck. I've tried the same with no success. Even the older Omnibooks seem to resist most methods of transfer between the LX and the OBs using IR, except when Laplink was used (the one built-in to both LX and the old OBs) ... which does no good to the OB800 since it doesn't include what might be a custom LapLink setup on the older OBs. I also tried Cpack, and configured the OB800 Cpack (Setup/Comm) to com3, but was never able to gain a solid connection. I think most of us have been bludgeoned into doing the flash card swap. Not as elegant, but you end up taking as much time trying to setup anything via IR (if you can find something that works). Either that or your trusty LX serial cable. Hardly anything beats that for speed, tho I know it's one more thing to remember to carry (maybe someone can make a 3 inch long "dongle" to connect them?) - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:00:22 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Post/LX Version 3.1a Released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" <> Al Kind has always encouraged us at Thaddeus to talk about our products on the list. I have done so as I thought appropriate. Fortunately for us, others have jumped in, so I haven't had to say much. I think it is quite useful for Avi to announce his latest product offerings. Anything that helps vendors to continue to develop for this great machine is a good thing, especially as his announcements help the readership of this list. By the way things continue to go just fine for us, supporting the HP 200LX with repairs, upgrades, used units, software and accessories. We expect to be in the business for a long time to come supporting the HP 200LX. Our Windows CE based Pocket PC magazine is also doing well (http://www.PocketPCmag.com). I have switched over to the HP 720 Handheld and HP 545 Pocket PC. They are fun and can do some neat things. I especially like syncing. However, if I weren't publishing Pocket PC magazine, I would likely still be using the HP 200LX as my handheld. To me it is still the most practical, overall useful handheld available. Hal from Thaddeus http://www.PalmtopPaper.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:09:25 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: Re: IR x-fer LX <-->OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:00:34 -0500 (EST) I had no trouble using LapLink with my older OB4000 and W3.11, but when I "upgraded" to W95, it didn't work anymore. I tried a newer rev of LapLink, but it was NoGo as well. I do get data to come across using XF/XFS, but it is not legible! Hmmm... Cheers...AJKind 38m25s ago ... On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Longden Loo wrote: > AJKind wrote: > > Has anybody successfully configured a good method to transfer filse > > between an LX and OB800 vai IR? I have tries X-finder & XFS with > > little success. I think I tried TransFile as well a while back with > > no luck. > > I've tried the same with no success. Even the older Omnibooks seem to > resist most methods of transfer between the LX and the OBs using IR, = except > when Laplink was used (the one built-in to both LX and the old OBs) ... > which does no good to the OB800 since it doesn't include what might be = a > custom LapLink setup on the older OBs. > > I also tried Cpack, and configured the OB800 Cpack (Setup/Comm) to = com3, > but was never able to gain a solid connection... -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:58:09 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russell Hemery Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russell Hemery Subject: OT:Zip & Jaz drive info In-Reply-To: <200102261444.f1QEiYo11230@mail.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all I use a Jaz drive to store info from my LX and presume some others on the list do as well. ie Back up LX to desktop and backup desktop to Jaz. There is a free utility on www.grc.com used to test Iomega drives and cartridges. Apparently there is a chance of fatality with no warning. The same site has a new Spinrite program and I've asked the author if it will work on Flash cards. Spinrite was able to format a hard disk without removing or destroying data and helped prevent HD crashes. If the new one works on flash cards it would be a boon for data protection on the LX. I'll advise the answer when I get it. I trust this info is of use to some. Cheers Russell ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:01:19 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Palmtop Paper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A couple of questions for Thaddeus: Is the e-mail palmtop paper still being published? I signed up for it twice now and am still receiving nothing. I've noticed back issues on your website but have received nothing to date. Also is it possible to buy a buyers guide/product guide for the pocket pc/handeld pc? Thank you for your assistance. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:14:45 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Group project/Lotus Notes Synch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I use Notes 4.6, and need a sync tool. > I use Notes 4.6 (soon to upgrade to Notes 5) and I need a synch tool ...or at least tools to convert to/from Notes and HP databases in a single step. Hmn. Is there an available Notes <-> cc:Mail converter? We all *have* cc:Mail on our palmtops... Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:32:46 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: making www.exe resident I've found a way to make www.exe behave as if it is a resdient program. If I run it as "www !command" it will run and launch a shell. I can then run any of the www/lx suite of programs without having launche it through www.exe . I also have the overhead of an extra shell. Is there a better way to do this? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:47:20 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Rex 6000? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all; Has anyone used the New Rex 6000 yet? Any opinions, ideas? Shall we chip in some $ to help Chris Lott do a nicer, smoother, PAL-interfaced Rex<->200LX synch app (that would, hopefully, synch to any Rex platform)? I like what I have read about the Rex 6000, and I think it would be a perfect companion to my 200LX (my Rex-3 does pretty well, although Chris's synching utilities thus far are quite cumbersome*). * My apologies to Chris, and congratulations on a job well done, so far, but it I think you'll agree it definitely needs more work! Regards, Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:52:49 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here are a couple of interesting news items regarding HP's handhelds that I found on http://www.pdabuzz.com/ "FTC charges false advertising against HP and Microsoft Monday, February 26, 2001 - 12:33 PM EST Neb Okla sent in word that the FTC is filing their second false advertising charge against Microsoft in a year over their now defunct "Can your Palm do that?" advertising campaign. The previous FTC action was not related to Microsoft's Pocket PC product. The FTC claims that Microsoft and HP used false and deceptive advertising when claiming that Palm users had to pay extra to make their Palm devices wireless capable while in very fine print at the bottom mentioning that Palm's "new line" can do wireless out of the box. You may remember that earlier this month, Microsoft announced their new Pocket PC ad campaign that made no mention of Palm what so ever. Microsoft also made no mention of the FTC action against them regarding the campaign they were retiring in favor of this kinder, gentler approach. Hrmmm." "HP gets new handheld exec, may switch to PalmOS Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:31 AM EST In a statement that is sure to cause much debate, joy, and concern to many in the PDA community, HP's new head of the Embedded and Personal Systems group Iain Morris said that the Jornada handhelds will be overhauled to reach its full potention. Included in this overhaul could be an operating system change to PalmOS or Linux. Morris plans to enact your typical "100 day plan" so expect some sort of movement on this one way or the other in the next few months. This begs the question, what will come of the Pocket PC platform is one of the major players drops out. Can Compaq and Casio tow the line alone?" ========================== I think it would be extremely smart for HP to drop Micro$oft "like a newborn giraffe" and go with the Palm OS. -- Richard Smith Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:48:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Yes, thanks I got some. However, none that had isobars in them which = would be more appropriate for the weatherfax icon. I suppose I could cut and = paste something from one of the weatherfaxes I've received. What is the file = format of the icon files? What software can I use to make one?<< The format of an HP .icn is 44 wide X 32 high X 2 colors (black and white). In your favorite paint program, create the original image as a .bmp, then use http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/bmp2icn.zip to convert it to an .icn. Bruce in Toronto ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce Martin bruce_martin@manulife.com (416) 218-5819 Creative Resources / Affinity Markets / Canadian Division / Manulife Financial ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:49:20 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Lott Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Chris Lott Subject: Re: Rex 6000? In-Reply-To: <3A9AC0D8.8B58A463@freeport.com> from "Richard and Patti Smith" at Feb 26, 2001 01:47:20 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I like what I have read about the Rex 6000, and I think it would > be a perfect companion to my 200LX (my Rex-3 does pretty well, > although Chris's synching utilities thus far are quite > cumbersome*). > > * My apologies to Chris, and congratulations on a job well done, > so far, but it I think you'll agree it definitely needs more > work! Richard: Oh, yes, I definitely agree with you. No offense taken. I have doubts that we can ever learn enough about even the Rex-3 to get a smooth transfer running. I am even more suspect about the new Rex-6000 to which you refer. Is it small enough to fit in the HP200LX, like the Rex-3? Do you have reason to believe that the data format is publicly, or otherwise, available to develpers? If it is anything like the Rex-5 format, I don't think it would be possible to reverse engineer the data storage format. I look forward to hearing back from you. As for further development on my Rex 3 programs, I must apologize for my snail pace progress. I have been otherwise pre-occupied with pesky matters like earning a paycheck and our new 8-month old adopted baby girl. But I haven't given up at all... -Chris -- ************************************************************************ R. Christopher Lott, P.E. rclott@ro.com Alpha Beta Technologies, Inc. 3112 12th Ave S.W. PHONE: 256-534-9067 Huntsville, Alabama 35805 FAX: 256-534-9069 ************************************************************************ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:01:23 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bryan Biggers Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan Biggers Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard and Patti Smith wrote: > > potention. Included in this overhaul could be an operating > system change to PalmOS or Linux. Morris plans to enact your Linux! Yeah! That could make me finally get rid of my HP200, maybe. Bryan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:30:26 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: PATH dirs (was Rename from batch) Comments: To: Andrew Lovell MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Andrew Lovell wrote: > Make sure that your path includes c:\;c:\dos;c:\bat I have a problem with some of this advise. "c:\" shouldn't be in the PATH. While it is an important directory it shouldn't hold tools; they belong in "c:\bin" or similar. Without tools there is no need for it to be in the PATH and will just cause extra overhead. "c:\dos" did you mean this to be "d:\dos"? If so I agree, that probably should be in most user's PATH. If you meant the C: drive directory then it only needs to in the PATH if the directory exists. "c:\bat" similar advice; only needs to be in the PATH if it exists. I don't have this directory as I put my BAT files in c:\bin or an earlier directory. Here's my PATH straight from my Autoexec.Bat... set path=c:\links;c:\bin;c:\bin\pcdos;d:\bin;d:\dos For more info on my "c:\links" directory see LINKLN11.ZIP on Super. "c:\bin\pcdos" holds some IBM PC DOS 5.0 tools that weren't included in the d:\dos rom builtin directory. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:30:24 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steven A. Carder wrote (>): > The 200LX has a built-in icon editor. D:\bin\icn200lx.exe A rather painful little application... Any better ideas? or can I create my = icons in something else and import to icn200lx and save them as icons? Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:44:29 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , LEONG Ka Tai Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: LEONG Ka Tai Subject: Re: Rename from batch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to Laust and Andrew, the batch file works fine now. Ka Tai ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:40:17 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: hphand Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Now that HP hand on compuserve is part > of another group is there anything > worthwhile on compuserve anymore? I'm still there! (G) It is quite slow but discussion still occurs and newbies to the 200 still show up occasionally with excited questions. As far as cis, well, unless you know of lists such as this (on its good, non-flamethrowing days), cis still is better than newsgroups for information other than support by particular manufacturers who have almost all abandoned cis. As for manufacturers support loss, I believe it has more to do with the public display of critical questions about their products and open negative comments about flawed products than with the web. I think they all moved to the web where they are better able to handle and censor threads they don't like. I recently was looking for info on cd-rw and copying my older lp records to cd. I got a lot of very good, very well-informed info. There have been other subjects where I've found similar assistance. Nothing is perfect as this list unfortunately seems to prove about every other week lately. (sigh) Fred ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:44:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , b.newins@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bob Newins Subject: Re: IR x-fer LX <-->OB800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Al there was a long discussion on the Omnibook mailing list about a year ago on this subject. No one to my knowledge every got it to work on the OB800. It *did* work on the OB600CT. It was never determined why it didn't seem to work on the 800CT. HP support never had a answer on this guestion. =Bob= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:52:59 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: FS: 'New In Box' Worldport Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Today I managed to acquire what I believe to be a 'new in the box' Worldport modem. It appears that the box has never been unwrapped and opened. THe modem was some old stock from a local computer store. The modem says that it comes with the following items: 2400/9600 modem User's Guid Telephone Cord AC Power Adapter 9-Volt Battery (probably dead by now) AT Cable (DB9/DB25) BlastFax Software Communications Software I have one onf these already and it's a great way to save the palmtop batteries. It is only a 9600 baud modem but for checking email, it works great. You can see a picture of it here: http://notachance.com/worldport.jpg I would like to get at least $20 + shipping for it, so if you anyone is interested just drop me a email. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:55:44 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Re: FS: 'New In Box' Worldport Modem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Jeff wrote: > Today I managed to acquire what I believe to be a 'new in the box' > Worldport modem. It appears that the box has never been unwrapped and > opened. THe modem was some old stock from a local computer store. The > modem says that it comes with the following items: I neglected to mention that the modem is just a bit larger than a cigarette pack, if anyone isn't familiar with this type of modem. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:36:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Domingo Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Domingo Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard and Patti Smith" To: Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 3:52 PM Subject: HP in the news > "HP gets new handheld exec, may switch to PalmOS > Thursday, February 22, 2001 - 11:31 AM EST > In a statement that is sure to cause much debate, joy, and > concern to many in the PDA community, HP's new head of the > Embedded and Personal Systems group Iain Morris said that the > Jornada handhelds will be overhauled to reach its full > potention. Included in this overhaul could be an operating > system change to PalmOS or Linux. Morris plans to enact your > typical "100 day plan" so expect some sort of movement on this > one way or the other in the next few months. This begs the > question, what will come of the Pocket PC platform is one of the > major players drops out. Can Compaq and Casio tow the line > alone?" > I think it would be extremely smart for HP to drop Micro$oft > "like a newborn giraffe" and go with the Palm OS. I hope they go with Linux instead. That would mean that the new device could perhaps be made compatible with the HP200LX somehow. Besides, I think the Palm market is getting a little crowded, with too many devices which differ little from each other. This is perhaps the best piece of hplx news to come to the list in a long time. Unfortunately the web site doesn't say much at this time. Domingo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:43:24 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: FLUFF: Avi under the porch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit By request of HPLX-L friends who like fluff on the birthplace of the HPLX: With George W. Bush America is getting a whole new language. He will bring with him many friends from Texas, and for anyone not born in the Lone Star State, the Texan accent and the cowboy colloquialisms can seem a bit strange. You gotta understand the grip Bush has on the automobile-loving basically Iro-Celtic libido of the southern United States. Anybody who has spent time in the smoky evening fields of the Mississippi Delta, where people talk slow like sorghum dripping onto cheap china and mosquitoes gang up in packs and carry off cattle, knows, just knows, that Bush is meaning. It's in the culture, ask Jeff of Limestone County. In fact, it has been scientifically proved that eating Moon Pies and drinking RC Cola makes you love Bush. It's true. MIT did it! Here is a guide to a few of the more colorful expressions: 1. The engine's runnin' but ain't nobody driving = Not overly-intelligent 2. As welcome as a skunk at a lawn party (self-explanatory) 3. Tighter than bark on a tree = Not very generous 4. Big hat, no cattle = All talk and no action 5. We've howdied but we ain't shook yet = We've made a brief acquaintance, but not been formally introduced 6. He thinks the sun come up just to hear him crow = He has a pretty high opinion of himself 7. She's got tongue enough for 10 rows of teeth = That woman can talk 8. It's so dry the trees are bribin' the dogs = We really could use a little rain around here 9. Just because a chicken has wings doesn't mean it can fly = Appearances can be deceptive. 10. This ain't my first rodeo = I've been around awhile. 11. He looks like the dog's been keepin' him under the porch = Not the most handsome of men 12. They ate supper before they said grace = Living in sin (unmarried and living together) 13. Time to paint your butt white and run with the antelope = Stop arguing and do as you're told 14. As full of wind as a corn-eating horse = Rather prone to boasting 15. You can put your boots in the oven, but that doesn't make them biscuits = You can say whatever you want about something, but that doesn't change what it is. Nathalie :) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:45:41 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Nathalie Bugeaud Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Nathalie Bugeaud Subject: Re: FLUFF: doct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit KenLondon wrote: >In defense of doctors have you looked at how big the PDR is? ...and: >I would like to apolgize for the comments I made about D&A Software >(Avi). They were uncalled for. I'm still waiting for apologies for the >dozens of times I was misquoted. Ken, I apologise - I misquoted you so many times, it is not funny :) Barry wrote: >And yes. I'm a retired programmer. I've memorized everything Longden answered: >He was just kidding. I'm sure Nathalie knows that ... she's pretty >smart.... even on low batteries. Longden, you didn't have to tell everyone we had a go :) :) :) ...actually - i know Barry quite well by now - he is top in giving his piece (Senf in German) on almost everything, some of it worthwhile, but others...??? This does not mean i want to discourage him from writing; to the contrary, retired programmers need to keep up their bytes of memory from drooping. ..and i echo Dr. Carder: "Pretending that you know what you are doing is an important medical skill (I will let you all speculate about hew serious I am )" Nathalie, who never ate supper before saying grace! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:05:56 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , John J Vanderstel Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: John J Vanderstel Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN > Thanks to Stefan Peichl I have started using PALMPC to emulate the > HP200LX on my WinNT labtop. The display is superior ... I've monitored several threads about PALMPC with interest, lately. Maybe my memory is just bad, but I don't seem to remember anyone mentioning where one might find PALMPC. Would someone please share where it can be found. Thanks in advance, John Vander Stel Grand Rapids, Michigan ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 03:00:21 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Harry Wellner Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Harry Wellner Subject: Messages stay on POP server MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List, On my HP200LX with WWW/LX with setting "Del=3D1" my messages on the POP-server will not be deleted anymore. With following run I see the incremental number of headers and then after a while the physical download appears but again without deleting the emails on the server. With an online session I erase the whole bunch but I am wondering what is going on at my end. __________________________________________ Harry WELLNER, Netherlands ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:07:08 +1100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Paul Johnson Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Paul Johnson Subject: Re: FLUFF: doctors MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And just before he opened you up, he asked for a scalpel, and declared, "Thats not a knife...This is a knife !" > On the other hand, when the doctor who was about to do my heart > surgery introduced himself to me and I saw that he was the > spitting image of Crocodile Dundee (really, grin and all), I > knew it was going to be ok. :) > > Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:03:36 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Peichl wrote: > The reason is, that CTRL-Z on the palmtop has the code 2C1A hex > whereas on the desktop the code is 151A hex. > > What you can do to overcome this problem is to write macros for > desktop use which go the way through the menus instead of using > the shortcut CTRL key sequences. Indeed it's simpler than that, because you only have to replace the palmtop's scan/ascii code by the desktop's scan/ascii code My PE.MAC on the desktop looks like: ; ¬Z=3DDOS #151a=3D#2c1a ; ¬F1=3DCUT #5e00=3D#d400 ; ¬F2=3DCOPY #5f00=3D#d500 ; ¬F3=3DPASTE #6000=3D#d600 ;AltZ=3DZoom #2c00=3D#d000 ;AltF=3Dfile list #2100=3D#3200#2f76#186f You may use http://peichl.hplx.net/scancode.zip to find out the codes on the desktop and palmtop. Unfortunately PE cannot detect the 3 windows keys on a normal keyboard. They could ideally be used as a replacement for the palmtops Menu and Fn key. The 3 windows codes are (from left to right) B6E0, B7E0, B8E0. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:38:09 +0030 Reply-To: castrobarco@wol.es Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jos Angel de Castro Subject: looking for a external/portable modem I'm looking for a external-portable modem for the lx200. Anyone know where search for? Jose Angel de Castro Barco C/S.Lorenzo, 1-3.B 47001 VALLADOLID tfno: 983 337299 castrobarco@wol.es ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:39:04 +0030 Reply-To: castrobarco@wol.es Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jos Angel de Castro Subject: loooking for a external/portable modem Jose Angel de Castro Barco C/S.Lorenzo, 1-3.B 47001 VALLADOLID tfno: 983 337299 castrobarco@wol.es ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 07:25:17 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeff Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeff Subject: Worldport Portable Modem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The portable modem that I mention in an earlier email is actually a 2400 modem. It has fax capabilities of 9600. I did not mean to mislead anyone. Jeff -- Reserve Deputy Chief Jeff Johns - W4JEF -- -- Jefferson County Sheriff's Department -- -- B'ham, AL USA jeffj@notachance.com -- ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:05:39 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Systems-Consulting Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Systems-Consulting Subject: Re: FLUFF: Avi under the porch Comments: To: Nathalie Bugeaud In-Reply-To: <007e01c0a081$59439300$cb85fcc1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathalie, If I had to find fault with your messages, the only problem would be they are very entertaining and distracting. I'll have to admit that I do enjoy them. Keep it up. Thanks, Paul Anderson, Pres, Systems-Consulting 89 Main Street, Broad Brook CT 06016 tel:(860)627-5393 web: http://Systems-Consulting.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:18:20 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: FLUFF: Avi under the porch I just called the President on my red phone. He's angry at being misquoted on HPLX-L. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathalie Bugeaud" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:43 AM Subject: FLUFF: Avi under the porch > By request of HPLX-L friends who like fluff on the birthplace of the HPLX: > > With George W. Bush America is getting a whole new language. He will bring > with him many friends from Texas, and for anyone not born in the Lone Star > State, the Texan accent and the cowboy colloquialisms can seem a bit > strange. > snippo ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:36:02 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: HP in the news In-Reply-To: <001b01c0a07f$4e0adf40$f0686c40@computer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 27 Feb 2001 00:36:56 -0500 Domingo a =E9crit: > I hope they go with Linux instead. That would mean that the > new device could perhaps be made compatible with the HP200LX > somehow. =20 Unfortunately, as we can think that they will not give up the=20 non Intel-compatible architecture so fast, Linux compatibility is good, but it is only a step to a really workable solution. And I am still waiting for the numeric pad return..... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:36:10 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: OT:Zip & Jaz drive info In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010227065809.00a38dc0@powerup.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Tue, 27 Feb 2001 06:58:09 +1100 Russell Hemery a =E9crit: > There is a free utility on www.grc.com used to test Iomega drives and > cartridges. Apparently there is a chance of fatality with no warning. BTW, when you are on the site, don't forget to download the utility permitting to recover your disk from the CIH virus. I used it on some friend's damaged disks, even sometimes for crashes not caused by CIH... > The same site has a new Spinrite program=20 Spinrite 5 is not very new... I would say it is about two years old... It seems that Steve Gibson has lost interest on hard drives. Too bad, he was one of the bests. Now he is more known about his work about firewall security. His site permits to test flaws on your firewall, detecting all open ports. Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:36:11 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <200102260431.f1Q4VAj26692@pop-d.netway.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:31:09 +0100 HP Staber a =E9crit: > Ah thats bad. An "upgrade" to the Metro ;-) What an upgrade... To celebrate the centenary of the Paris's Metro, they are "upgrading" half of the 300 stations. The "upgrade" being, in most cases, to replace the white tilings on the walls by new white tilings... Result : you have permanently a dozen of station closed at 20PM, if it is not all day during several weeks... One other bad change is the fact they are removing almost all seats on the quays, in order to discourage homeless people to come. Result : when a traveler has a faintness in a train, he must lay down at the ground waiting medics arrive.. :-( Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:36:13 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jacques Belin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jacques Belin Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris In-Reply-To: <3A99F79A.D53CB565@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:28:42 -0500 Ken London a =E9crit: > After seeing MBTA stations here in Massachusetts, how > can a station be 'too' clean? Locally they seem to be in a contest to > see which station is the dirtiest and smelliest. Well... I have not said that the Paris's metro is as clean as the Moskow's during cold war ! The funny thing being the fact that if there is a war about dirty, it is more against taggers that againts sheets of papers. If I agree that they remove tags in most of the stations, I understand less that, when they removed nice colorfull paintings that some taggers made one night on the walls of a station which has only dark concrete walls, waiting they replace the white tilings they have removed near one year ago... Jacques. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:44:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Stephan R. Novosad" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Stephan R. Novosad" Subject: Re: Group project Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Barry wrote: > > So maybe it would be a better idea > > for LX owners intertested in > > 200LX <-> Domino functionality to > > donate some cash and use the > > collected amount to pay a commercial > > developer firm to implement everything. > > We have some pretty serious development talent on this list. I > think Notes development would be pretty small potatos to some > people here. > > In any case, the idea is to have a group project. One where the > professionals on the list can handle the heavy programming and > design and some of the hobby programmers can contribute what > they can. And some hobby programmers are damn good programmers. However if a non-programmer wanted to support a project with money, things like Notes often have Software Development Kits. These aid program design and can sometimes be expensive. I'm not familar with the status of Notes in this regard (or the Rex platform). I think hiring a commercial firm would be prohibitive, unless it's a straight forward port of existing code. Unlikely at best. Steve ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:11:20 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Group project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Gerhard Gonter said: > >> There are a lot of them in TealInfo format on the Palm. Some of >> the best ones. TealInfo isn't exactly a database but it's >> similar. Ý...¨ > > Do you have pointers to more detailed information about that? Teal is at http://www.tealpoint.com/ Once you get there click on TealInfo. It's a program for building information files. They can look like records in a database or like a hypertext document or like Windows Help or pretty much anything you want them to look like. You build them and compile them on a PC and can't modify them on the Palm. You just use the viewer to use them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:18:45 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Rename from batch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You're correct that REN is part of command.com. It's an internal command. I suspect that your problem is that you didn't use the full path name on the filenames. Or it might be that you did use the full path on REN. Or both. Try this: REN ?:\PATH\FILE1.EXE FILE2.EXE replacing the ? with the drive that file resides on. That should work. You might try just changing D:\DOS\REN to just REN first to see if that's the problem. Barry > LEONG Ka Tai asked: > > I need to write a batch file that renames > some files, so I put in the line > > d:\dos\ren \path\file1.exe file2.exe. > > > I got a "bad command or file name" > when the batch file was run. > > But when I started DOS and run this > command, it worked fine. > > I checked d:\dos, and sure enough, > there is no "ren" command in > the directory. But I suspect that it is > included in "command.com". > > I should be grateful for any idea on > how to call the rename command > from a batch file. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:20:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm very leary about having HP going with Linux. As bad as windoze and wince are, I have heard that Linux has many more problems. Any here have experience with Linux? Is it really that bad? Would it be even less likely to play well with the 200x? What about the Palm platform? I don't use one but I've heard that palm is even worse than wince. Anyone else know if this is true? After alot of years of searching I have found nothing that has the functionality and stability of the 200lx. It appears to me that Linux and Palm are not the answer. Anyone else had experience with either? I've also heard from other users of Linux that as bad as windoze is...if you had linux you would probably have 10 times more support expenses (i.e. if they support windoze, they would charge extra $$$ to support the linux platform and that would run into big bucks). The impression I'm getting from other users of linux is that it is not the answer to all of our windoze woes....that it is a very flawed platform. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 10:24:07 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: OT:Zip & Jaz drive info Comments: To: Jacques Belin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Belin wrote: > It seems that Steve Gibson has lost interest on hard drives. Too bad, he > was one of the bests. I wouldn't agree with that, he is branching out into systems beyond only the hard drive. He seems to be taking an approach towards the entire system...not just the hard drive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:24:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Stefan Peichl wrote: > > The reason is, that CTRL-Z on the palmtop > has the code 2C1A hex whereas on the > desktop the code is 151A hex. I just want to point out that this is not an incompatibility in the palmtop. Dos on a desktop uses the same scan codes as Dos on the palmtop. Windows changed them. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:28:28 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Resource Sharing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Yves Leurquin wrote: > > Sharing LX specific format databases and > text is very nice but we must recognize that > there are many more Palm users and that > the wealth of Palm specific format > databases and most importantly supported > synchronization tools in much larger. I agree. That's why I think it might be useful to steal their work. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:40:18 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: Big fat CF cards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Longden Loo > > Sandisk's website seems to indicate that > 192mb is their max CF-1 at the moment -> http://www.sandisk.com/cons/photo.htm That site also lists a 300mb compact flash card type II. I'm not sure what the type II distinction is but elsewhere http://www.sandisk.com/cons/TSG/compatlist.htm they say the 160mb compact flash card is a type II. I just bought a 160mb card from Loic Sautour and it works fine in the palmtop. So, if type II works in the palmtop 300mb is probably the biggest. Of course it might also be a typo since they seem to indicate the 160 is a type II on one page and don't mention that on another page, where they do call the 300 a type II. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:01:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Bruce_Martin@MANULIFE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bruce Martin Subject: Re: Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> The 200LX has a built-in icon editor. D:\bin\icn200lx.exe >> > A rather painful little application... Any better ideas? or can I create my = > icons in something else and import to icn200lx and save them as icons? > Nope. icn200lx will only import files that are in .icn format and that are 44 x32 x2-colors. Use bmp2icn from SUPER to convert your *correctly sized and colored* .bmp originals (or pcx2icn from Brahma-San at http://www.ufo.co.jp/~brahma/lib/pcx_icn.lzh to convert your .pcx originals). Bruce in Toronto ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:46:54 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! F. Kaufman wrote (>): > Actually, what I want to know is why Owen is > in Dos on the HP doing anything else while > awaiting a weather fax. If I recall, the HP was > not very useful compared with his other > platform! (G) Are _WE_ finding the HP more > useful and versatile than expected, Owen? > (gd&r) :o) I have no doubt that the LX _could_ be _almost_ as useful as my MC218 if I = chose to use it for general computing, but no, I honestly haven't used the = LX for anything else than weatherfaxes (yet). The reason I am sometimes in = DOS when a appointment time occurs is either that I'm busy fine honing my = batch files etc. or that some of the scheduled faxes from the previous appt = time were missed because of bad radio propagation, in which case HFFAX = won't close until it has received all the scheduled number of faxes. = (Scancode is unable to get through with the keystrokes to close the program = while HFFAX is still waiting for faxes. > (just in a mood as I am immersed in > remodeling a kitchen!!!) Poor SOD! PS. I solved the problem by getting Scancode to reboot the LX when HFFAX is = closed. This seem to clear out the missed appointments. I _think_ I've got = all the wrinkles worked out now... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:47:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Making the Appt Book ignore a missed schedule. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Bruce Martin wrote (>): > The format of an HP .icn is 44 wide X 32 high > X 2 colors (black and white). In your favorite > paint program, create the original image as a > .bmp, then use > http://www.palmtop.net/anonftp/pub/bmp2icn.zip > to convert it to an icn. Thanks! Gggggreat! Thanks also to others who came up with almost as useful suggestions... :o) Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:29:50 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Rex 6000? Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Lott wrote: > Oh, yes, I definitely agree with you. No offense taken. I have > doubts that we can ever learn enough about even the Rex-3 to get > a smooth transfer running. I am even more suspect about the new > Rex-6000 to which you refer. Is it small enough to fit in the > HP200LX, like the Rex-3? Do you have reason to believe that the > data format is publicly, or otherwise, available to develpers? If > it is anything like the Rex-5 format, I don't think it would be > possible to reverse engineer the data storage format. > I look forward to hearing back from you. As for further development > on my Rex 3 programs, I must apologize for my snail pace progress. > I have been otherwise pre-occupied with pesky matters like earning a > paycheck and our new 8-month old adopted baby girl. But I haven't > given up at all... Chris; Congratulations on the adoption! (I hope it all continues to go well!) As far as the paycheck problem: I agree, to paraphrase Nathalie: My main goals in life are constantly being thwarted by the need to pay the rent, etc. I understand that there's is a Dataslim (Japanese device similar to Rex 6000) SDK out on the 'net somewhere (See: http://dataslim.angel.co.jp/ds2/download.htm and http://dataslim.angel.co.jp/ds2/download_adin.htm) that could work for producing apps for the Rex 6000. Perhaps you could glean something from there? Although you may need a japanese translator! As far as physical size and form factor, the Rex 6000 is identical to the Rex 3. The highlights of the newer model include: - flash memory: so you don't lose your data when changing batteries - touch screen: easier data management - downloadable web content - lower price! However, Xircom/Citizen would be wise to release an SDK or the data format to stimulate more 3rd party development, as with the DOS-based units and the Palm. Let me know if there's any way I can help, ie: beta testing, etc. Regards; Richard Smith ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 13:58:13 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Re: Rex 6000 Comments: To: Chris Lott MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit More on Rex 6000 at http://home.san.rr.com/dawhites/rex6000.htm and at: www.rex.net -- Richard Smith Check out our virtual garage sale at http://seronac.freeservers.com/virtualgaragesale.html You're where you are because of who you are. But who you are is not as important as who you become. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:27:45 +0200 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Daniel Hertrich Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Daniel Hertrich Subject: IKEA batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi friends, For those involved to this thread a few weeks ago: i'm sorry - the IKEA batteries are really yellow now. (but they WERE green/gray, I swear! ;-) ) Yesterday I bought 10 AAs for 5 DM (2.5 US$). "Produced by Varta for IKEA" is written on them. The product description says "MN1500". Does that say something about capacity?? Nice cheap batteries - makes me considering replacing the rechargeables by these batteries in daily use... GTX daniel -- Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:14:50 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: IKEA batteries Comments: To: Daniel Hertrich I went through a set of these and noticed a few things. They seem to last longer then the everready or duracell brand. They show up as 3.08 volts when fresh whereas the name brand batteries only show up as 3.0 volts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hertrich" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: IKEA batteries > Hi friends, > > For those involved to this thread a few weeks ago: > > i'm sorry - the IKEA batteries are really yellow now. > (but they WERE green/gray, I swear! ;-) ) > Yesterday I bought 10 AAs for 5 DM (2.5 US$). "Produced by Varta for > IKEA" is written on them. The product description says "MN1500". Does > that say something about capacity?? > > Nice cheap batteries - makes me considering replacing the rechargeables > by these batteries in daily use... > > GTX > daniel > > > -- > Celia & Daniel Hertrich d.hertrich@gmx.de > home page: http://www.daniel-hertrich.de > mobile phone: +49 (0)177 7955549 > unified messaging (fax,voice): +49 (0)721 151 306690 > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 18:57:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Notes file recovery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all! Please, oh please, tell me there's a way to recover the data from a password protected notes file? When I went to change the password on my notes file, something apparently went awry and now everytime I try to open it, it freezes the palmtop. I have a backup but it's a few days old and there's some info I REALLY need out of it. I've tried dbcheck, garlic, gdbdump, CPACK200 and unix strings to no avail. Any assistance would be HUGELY appreciated. Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at jsv@sirveiss.com. Thank you very much! Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@sirveiss.com) Network Engineer/System Administrator Sir Veiss, Inc. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:15:17 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: palmtop come together in Paris MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jaques, > Le Mon, 26 Feb 2001 01:28:42 -0500 > Ken London a =E9crit: > > > After seeing MBTA stations here in Massachusetts, how > > can a station be 'too' clean? Locally they seem to be in a contest = to > > see which station is the dirtiest and smelliest. > > Well... I have not said that the Paris's metro is as clean as the > Moskow's during cold war ! > > The funny thing being the fact that if there is a war about dirty, it = is > more against taggers that againts sheets of papers. If I agree that = they > remove tags in most of the stations, I understand less that, when they > removed nice colorfull paintings that some taggers made one night on = the > walls of a station which has only dark concrete walls, waiting they > replace the white tilings they have removed near one year ago... Greetings from Daniel after we met today. Next time you are supposed to join in as well :) BTW : I had the impression that the metro station of Louvre Rivoli was as it used to be - clean and without any major construction work. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:15:19 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Thanks to Stefan Peichl I have started using PALMPC to emulate the > > HP200LX on my WinNT labtop. The display is superior ... > > I've monitored several threads about PALMPC with interest, lately. = Maybe > my memory is just bad, but I don't seem to remember anyone mentioning > where one might find PALMPC. Would someone please share where it can = be > found. I don't remember where I got it from - it's a 13k zip file without doc. Thomas Moberg wrote A few days ago : When You cant find a file in general - Go to ftpsearch.lycos.com and do a search for the file, in this case acrodos.zip. You will find it on many places. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:19:12 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Rename from batch Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Barry wrote: > You're correct that REN is part of command.com. It's an > internal command. > > I suspect that your problem is that you didn't use the full path > name on the filenames. Or it might be that you did use the full > path on REN. The main problem is the path specification on the Rename command. As soon as that was done DOS no longer looked for an INTERNAL command but instead started looking for an EXTERNAL REN command in the specified directory with a .COM/.EXE/.BAT extension. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:52:59 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , "Peter A. Castro" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Peter A. Castro" Subject: Re: HP in the news In-Reply-To: <3A9BC5BF.B85DDBF1@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > I'm very leary about having HP going with Linux. As > bad as windoze and wince are, I have heard that Linux > has many more problems. Any here have experience > with Linux? Is it really that bad? Would it be even > less likely to play well with the 200x? I use Linux at home and at work. I also use Windows NT, Windows 98 and WinCE. For a workstation environment, I prefer Linux, because of the flexibility and speed. Plus adding/writing new programs is a lot cheaper. Converting data from the 200LX is a different question entirely and really depends on what HP does. There are no set standards for such things as wordprocessing or spreadsheets or databases in the Linux world. HP might be able to take some of the existing programs (all free, of course), and slim them down to work on a small platform, but the reduction in functionality will put it back in the same ring with WinCE. The only real advantage Linux will bring is in the development area. Since Linux is free, as are most all apps for it, the cost of building programs will be much less. No license fee to pay Microsoft. Essentially HP will be inventing a brand new palmtop and the infrastructure to go with it. It might, however, make it easier for the user to add programs of their own. > What about the Palm platform? I don't use one but > I've heard that palm is even worse than wince. Anyone > else know if this is true? Palm and PalmOS are a different paradigm. Much like the Newton, the Palm is all based on pen-based input and handwriting recognition. It appears many people like this approach as it is easier to transition from an old paper notebook to a Palm than to a keyboard base system. For those of us who are much more at home with a keyboard, the Palm is harder to wrap our heads around and get into. Differnet strokes and all that... > After alot of years of searching I have found nothing > that has the functionality and stability of the 200lx. It > appears to me that Linux and Palm are not the answer. > Anyone else had experience with either? I, too, have experimented with a whole variety of different palmtop machines. The pen-based machines (ie. Palm) just don't appeal to me (I hate using a pen). I'm a keyboard kinda guy :-) Anything WinCE doesn't appeal to me because the MS-Windows desktop paradigm doesn't work for me (having to switch back and forth between the keyboard and pen to get things done is annoying). Plus I don't like the Pocket versions of the various applications (which also don't have the features that the 200LX does). You could go with a mini/microline-laptop (eg: Sony VAIO), but at that point you are using a full operating system with all the overhead that entails. Plus peripherals usually need to be attached via an external box or cable. Mini/microline-laptops are more prone to damage if dropped (harddisk, display) and still aren't small enough to put into your pocket. The 200LX is a well designed machine, physically (minus the hinge crack and latch problems ;-). The choice of DOS was arguably a good one for the time. It's simple enough so that users can extend it with extra programs outside of the PIM, yet allows you to add new PIMs that you can write yourself (and can actually build them on the palmtop itself if you install a compiler on it!). However, times change. Today, color, sound and a larger screen are the in-thing. Why? Becase people want to do more than just keep their appointments and a small contact list in the palm of their hand. People want to exchange email, write reports, do project planning, work out their taxes, view pictures, play MP3s, surf the web, etc.. You get the idea. Try cramming all of that into something that you can still put into your pocket. None of the existing PDAs and palmtops can do all of the above (or if any of them can, its usually with some features lacking or at the cost of adding extra memory, a faster CPU and an external PCMCIA compact flash card to hold it all). Physically, the hardware end of it can be done today.. for a price (that will drop with time, of course). The software end of it is the real problem. See, noone really thought about the future and how people would be using their palmtops. Did anyone envision doing all of the above the first time they saw a palmtop? If so, then *you* should be designing the next generation instead of the current group of people. ;¬) > I've also heard from other users of Linux that as bad as > windoze is...if you had linux you would probably have > 10 times more support expenses (i.e. if they support > windoze, they would charge extra $$$ to support the > linux platform and that would run into big bucks). The > impression I'm getting from other users of linux is that > it is not the answer to all of our windoze woes....that it > is a very flawed platform. Getting support is a matter of just how much work you, the owner, are willing to do to get a problem solved. Linux has a vast, free, support infrastructure already in place. It's called the Internet :-). There are many, many email lists for just about anything you can think of to get answers to a particular problem. There are many newsgroups with many people who are quite willing to give you advice on how to fix things simple and complex. And there are many websites devoted to Linux, it's care and feeding and users personal experiences with it. But! You have to do the leg work of finding these resources and sending the messages out for help. These are all free to access. If you must have a person to talk to, then, yes, you can spend money at one of the Support organizations (eg: Linux-Care) to cure what ailes you. But, you can already do that today for both WinCE and Palm machines. One of the major benefits of Linux is its constant growth (mentioned at the beginning). This means you can potentially upgrade your palmtop and all it's apps on your own. You can build your own kernel and even build any/all of the apps on it yourself. All at a very affordable price. I can't really say that about either WinCE or even Palm (though Palm comes close). Like most people I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude. I'm pinning any hopes on this news flash. HP might simple be getting themselves disentangled from Microsoft and wish to start a new platform as a result. More power to them. A fresh new palmtop is an excellent way to start. -- Peter A. Castro or ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:33:15 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: Notes file recovery Comments: To: Jeffrey Veiss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > Please, oh please, tell me there's a way to recover the data from a > password protected notes file? When I went to change the password on > my notes file, something apparently went awry and now everytime I try > to open it, it freezes the palmtop. I have a backup but it's a few days > old and there's some info I REALLY need out of it. I've tried dbcheck, > garlic, gdbdump, CPACK200 and unix strings to no avail. > > Any assistance would be HUGELY appreciated. Give HPCRACK a try, it's on SUPER. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:06:59 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating system was or how to make one. Having never used Linux, is that a major concern? With DOS being a proven platform and Windoze being somewhat flawed can Linux really be an alternative when it designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating system was? At least Microsoft undertood the concept of an operating system.... I would point out I have never used Linux so I only know what I have heard about it recently. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:45:49 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: Ken London To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: Re: HP in the news >In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux >was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating >system was or how to make one. > I am very curious about this statement and would love to learn something new. Care to elaborate? Thanks. Alfred Ýdeleted¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:03:12 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Alfred Lee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is such a silly statement that I can only assume it was made based on bad information... Linus Torvalds was a COmputer Science student, studying the Minix operating system (on his own, as part of a class, I am not sure) and found that it was interesting, but he wanted a system that would better utilize his 80386-based machine. Minix was designed for the 8088 IBM PC/XT architecture. He knew about operating systems the same way *hundreds* of other current Operating System professionals learned about it - by studying Andrew Tannenbaum's book on Minux and Operating System principles. Linus developed the original linux kernel on his own, and it was far from the robust piece of code the kernel is today, but it was developed by a team of one. Upon releasing his first kernel to the world, he was joined by others on the Minux mailing list in developing this new kernel. Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernigan had written exactly *zero* operating systems before they wrote their first Operating System, Unix. The design principles in Unix are, to a large extent, the result of Kernigan & Ritchies *strong* dislike for the current Operating System model, Multics, hence the name for their Operating System. Visicalc was written by an MBA student who was tired of performing mathmatical calculations on columns of numbers by hand over and over again. He didn't know anything about spreadsheet programs (they hadn't been invented until he invented it), but he did a pretty good job. Visicalc drove a large number of Commodore Pets, Apple II and TRS-80s into corporate offices in the late 70's. And what about those two guys from Washington State that wrote their first interpreter for a machine they had never actually seen or used before? That little BASIC interpreter, and a few clever acqusitions and licensing deals led them, and their company on a ride that took them all the way to the top of their industry. The company they started was Microsoft, and for a while in the late 70's into the 80's you could not buy a machine that didn't include a copy of their 4K, 8K or 16K BASIC interpreter (I think there was also a 32K version - the number in this discussion is the size of the ROM chip containing thei interpreter, in bytes). Many successful software project were born out of ignorance and need, mixed in with a healthy dose of talent and luck. Let's talk about examples in the mainframe world... Operating Systems - OS/360, the parent of all modern System/370 operating systems, was developed by an *army* of professionals, and contributed not only a marvelous industry built on the then-ludicrous notion that software should be portable from machine to machine, but also a book called "The Mythical Man-Month" - a book every Comp. Sci. major should read *before* they decide they know it all... OS/360 was a big, bloated pig of an OS, that has only gotten bigger as time goes by... Then there is the programming language that has been on death's door for *at least* the last 15-20 years, since all those bright, forward-thinking Comp. Sci. students and instructors started to monkey with the C programming language and the Unix operating system - COBOL (COmmon Business Oriented Language). Grace Hopper, and her band of clever co-workers in the government and private industry decided what the world really needed was a programming language unlike the then-popular FORTRAN (FORmula TRANslation) and Assembler programming. This new language, they felt, should make the computer do all the heavy-lifting when a user wrote a program, the user doesn't need to know about wordsize, instruction set, etc. -the compiler will take care of it - the programmer could be replaced by a businessman with a little bit of training. COBOL has been around since the late 50's,and will be around a while longer, esp. after all thos folks spent the last part of the 1990's learning COBOL in an effort to cash-in on the "Y2K Problem." Now we have a mountain of COBOL still running in business, and all these programmer trained inthe language. COBOL inhales deeply, and it really shows it's committee-generated design, but it has succeeded. Ken (sorry, feeling a bit pi**y today, hope that doesn't come across too harsh) ------Original Message------ From: Alfred Lee To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: February 28, 2001 3:45:49 AM GMT Subject: Re: HP in the news -----Original Message----- From: Ken London To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:23 PM Subject: Re: HP in the news >In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux >was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating >system was or how to make one. > I am very curious about this statement and would love to learn something new. Care to elaborate? Thanks. Alfred Ýdeleted¨ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:18:42 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "At least Microsoft (understood) the concept of an operating system..." When it went out and bought a CP/M (or Dec RX-11) clone operating system from Seattle Micro Works after signing the contract with IBM to provide an OS. Microsoft did not design or develop DOS, they bought it from a single programmer who "had no idea of what an operating system was or how to write one" (to paraphrase a recent posting)... HTH, Ken ------Original Message------ From: Ken London To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UConn.Edu Sent: February 28, 2001 3:06:59 AM GMT Subject: Re: HP in the news At least Microsoft undertood the concept of an operating system.... ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:17:34 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Alfred Lee MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alfred Lee wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken London > To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu > Date: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: HP in the news > > >In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux > >was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating > >system was or how to make one. > > > I am very curious about this statement and would love to learn something > new. Care to elaborate? Thanks. > > Alfred > > Ýdeleted¨ > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Yes...the guy who created Linux was on TV and admitted that he knew absolutely nothing about creating an operating system. He made many appearances on various networks saying the same thing. His quotes appeared on TV many times after the microsoft ruling. For all the faults at Microsoft...at least have a conception of what an operating system should do. I have to wonder whether this guy who created linux even nows how a computer works. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 05:43:03 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: FLUFF: Avi under the porch Comments: To: Ed Padin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > I just called the President on my red phone. He's angry at being misquoted > on HPLX-L. Excuse me but is that "misquoted" or "misvoted?" ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:04:37 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, now you're just trying to bait me... First, not knowing what you are doing *when you start* is very different from not knowing what you are doing after several years at it. Linus has been at it several years, and trust me, he knows how a computer works. Linus said he didn't know anything about "creating an operating system" - the part left off is that Linux was his attempt to *learn* about creating an operating system. He *did* know about operating systems, see previous mention in my earlier post regarding MInux involvement by Linus. Second, Microsoft has taken to citing their "famous" blue screens of death in their recent Win2K advertisments - they feature cut-out screen images of the display after the WinNT OS gives up the ghost and fails... These guys know license agreements, acquisitions, marketing and finance - they *happen* to be in the software business - "because that's where the money is." (Quote from famous bank robber, when asked why he robs banks) Ken ----- Original Message ----- > Yes...the guy who created Linux was on TV and admitted that he knew > absolutely > nothing about creating an operating system. He made many appearances on > various > networks saying the same thing. His quotes appeared on TV many times > after the > microsoft ruling. > > For all the faults at Microsoft...at least have a conception of what an > operating system > should do. I have to wonder whether this guy who created linux even nows > how a > computer works. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:03:15 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Adrian Ho Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Adrian Ho Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is > that Linux was designed by someone who didn't even know what > an operating system was or how to make one. Linus might not have known all that when he started, but I'd bet he got wiser as he went along (any half-wit would). Considering that Linux doesn't fall over when you push it around (unlike That Other OS), that's pretty good for an ignoramus. (And yes, I know the current Linux kernels are the work of thousands. That so many signed up to contribute is also testimony to the decency of Linus' original work -- no one I know would take so much time to help out an idiot in his personal project.) > Having never used Linux, is that a major concern? With DOS > being a proven platform and Windoze being somewhat flawed > can Linux really be an alternative when it designed by > someone who didn't even know what an operating system was? Everyone has to start somewhere. The correct question isn't "how much did Linus know _then_", it's "how well does Linux work _now_". And the answer to _that_ is "very well indeed". > At least Microsoft undertood the concept of an operating > system.... Microsoft understands nothing of the sort (I have no faith in "institutional memory"). The OS designers and coders are where the understanding lie. Staff turnover could have been a major contributor to the wild fluctuations about a low-quality mean that the world calls "Windows". (And that's the last uncomplimentary thing I'll say about Windows. I'm starting my own OS project, and I have some very clear ideas about how difficult it can be.) > I would point out I have never used Linux so I only know > what I have heard about it recently. I would consider taking any further tech-related info from those sources with five tons of salt. I know it ain't good for your system, but to say that they don't know what they're talking about is the understatement of the year, methinks. I would also urge you to try Linux for yourself, and form your own opinions. You shouldn't have to trust anyone else's (not even mine 8-). -- Adrian Ho aholx@mailandnews.com ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:15:09 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , kopplin@TECHNOIR.NU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Mike Kopplin Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A9C89EE.375846C6@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > For all the faults at Microsoft...at least have a conception of what an > operating system should do. > I have to wonder whether this guy who created linux even nows > how a computer works. No, obviously he doesn't. Everyone who uses Microsoft products knows that computers are supposed to crash frequently. But using Linux, I just can't make them crash. I leave the computers running it on all the time just in case that will help. I try tweaking this and that. I run buggy software. I start so many processes the system is slowed to a crawl. But nothing seems to help. Every few months I might modify or update the OS (kernel) and reboot to see if that might do the trick. Nope. I had one production server going for 458 days straight trying to get it to lock up. Finally in disgust I gave up and flipped off the power. That Linus couldn't program his way out of a paper bag. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 01:38:06 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken Hansen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In this whole disccussion about linux the bottom line is if are looking for an operating system that is more reliable than windows you are not going to find in linux. I've heard from many people that linux is not any more reliable than windoze and in some cases worse. So if linux is so great as people keep saying how come the linux companies are tanking on wall street? How come linux isn't flying off the shelves at computer stores? When I was in a local computer store yesterday I didn't see anyone preventing people from buying Linux. So why isn't it selling? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 02:00:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken Hansen Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken Hansen Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are confusing three different things: Technology - Linux is fine, *maturing* technology. I never said it was the best, but it is far from the worst option in the OS market currently. Market Perception - Red Hat (for example) could never sustain the *stupid* valuation the market had for it in the past. Today, at $6 it has a *billion dollar* capitalization. They had $22 Million in revenue (sales) in the last *quarter* (someone is paying them for something!) Marketing - Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free. You can run RH LInux on your machine without paying Red Hat a dime - the software is free for download, low-cost CD-Rs are available (see www.lsl.com),and frinds borrow the media from each other. Just necause no one in CompUSA bought linux while you were standing there does not mean it is not being used. How many copies of Windows Advanced Server were bought while you were standing there? None? Interesting - what is everyone running on their servers? Maybe your research methods are not as comprehensive as you think... Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:38 AM Subject: Re: HP in the news > In this whole disccussion about linux the bottom line is if are looking for > an operating system that is more reliable than windows you are not > going to find in linux. I've heard from many people that linux is not any > more reliable than windoze and in some cases worse. > > So if linux is so great as people keep saying how come the linux > companies are tanking on wall street? How come linux isn't flying off > the shelves at computer stores? When I was in a local computer store > yesterday I didn't see anyone preventing people from buying Linux. So why > isn't it selling? > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:20:31 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Re: Notes file recovery Comments: To: Russel Brooks In-Reply-To: <200102280233.f1S2XWs31726@dizzy.sirveiss.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Russel Brooks wrote: > Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > > Please, oh please, tell me there's a way to recover the data from a > > password protected notes file? When I went to change the password on > > my notes file, something apparently went awry and now everytime I try > > to open it, it freezes the palmtop. I have a backup but it's a few days > > old and there's some info I REALLY need out of it. I've tried dbcheck, > > garlic, gdbdump, CPACK200 and unix strings to no avail. > > > > Any assistance would be HUGELY appreciated. > > Give HPCRACK a try, it's on SUPER. > > Cheers... Russ Thanks for the advice, Russ, but I've tried that as well and it told me there was no password on the file. Unfortunately, when I open the file on the HP or with CPACK200, it doesn't even get to the point where it would prompt me for a password. At what byte count is the password stored and how long is it? Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at jsv@sirveiss.com. Thank you very much! Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@sirveiss.com) 102 Riverside Drive Network Engineer/System Administrator Cranford, NJ 07016 Sir Veiss, Inc. (908) 272-6640 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:23:56 +0000 Reply-To: remce@gofree.indigo.ie Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Richard E. McEvoy" Subject: Re: Notes file recovery Comments: To: Jeffrey Veiss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffry, Is there any chance that something happened your note.env file? Recently, when using a backup LX, I had copied my C and C:_dat from my A drive, and when I opened the Appointment book I was asked for a password which I never had. I also got "invalid file type" on other database files. It froze on several attempts. I posted looking for help but no one responded :-(( I looked again at what I had done and I found I was missing a .ini in one case and I think I had the wrong .env in another. Anyway when I copied the correct .ini and .envs everything worked. HTH Richard Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > Please, oh please, tell me there's a way to recover the data from a > password protected notes file? When I went to change the password on > my notes file, something apparently went awry and now everytime I try > to open it, it freezes the palmtop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:38:00 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Barry wrote: > > Stefan Peichl wrote: > > > > The reason is, that CTRL-Z on the palmtop has the code 2C1A hex > > whereas on the desktop the code is 151A hex. > > I just want to point out that this is not an incompatibility in > the palmtop. Dos on a desktop uses the same scan codes as Dos > on the palmtop. Windows changed them. Hmm, I cannot verify this. On my Win95 desktop, I know three ways to use DOS: 1) Press F8 during startup and then press 6 2) Shell to a DOS box from within Win95 3) Close Win95 and restart with the DOS prompt All these methods yield a different CTRL key scancode than the one of the palmtop. Stefan ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:37:59 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Stefan.Peichl@T-ONLINE.DE Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Stefan Peichl Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John J Vanderstel wrote: > I've monitored several threads about PALMPC with interest, lately. > Would someone please share where it can be found. http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/5463/palmpc.zip I think it's a good candidate for S.U.P.E.R. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:33:28 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HP in the news There are people running Linux on some of the CE platforms. http://www.handhelds.org The closest we come to linux in the LX is minix. it's a nice port of a unix-like OS to the LX but, unfortunately, it has no networking capabilities. It also has no way of accessing the DOS filesystems while it is running. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter A. Castro" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 8:52 PM Subject: Re: HP in the news > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Ken London wrote: > > > I'm very leary about having HP going with Linux. As > > bad as windoze and wince are, I have heard that Linux > > has many more problems. Any here have experience > > with Linux? Is it really that bad? Would it be even > > less likely to play well with the 200x? > > I use Linux at home and at work. I also use Windows NT, Windows 98 and > WinCE. For a workstation environment, I prefer Linux, because of the > flexibility and speed. Plus adding/writing new programs is a lot > cheaper. Converting data from the 200LX is a different question entirely > and really depends on what HP does. There are no set standards for such > things as wordprocessing or spreadsheets or databases in the Linux world. > HP might be able to take some of the existing programs (all free, of > course), and slim them down to work on a small platform, but the snip ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:42:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HP in the news Ken Landon Wrote: > In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux > was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating > system was or how to make one. I assume you mean Linus Torvalds. He wrote the first Linux kernel and has since had some help in that. The operating system was written by a whole lot of people around the world, some of which are very knowledgable about operating systems. My experince with Linux is that it is very powerful but can also be more difficult to use. A linux based PDA would be nice for techy types but, unless they put a easily navigable front-end user interface with some useful applications, it will remain a hobbyists toy. The great part about having Linux in the background is that there are more development avenues available. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:56:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , MCHEM1@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Al Kind Subject: FLUFF: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:49:49 -0500 (EST) Interesting Debate, but Please use the FLUFF designation...and remember to "play nice" Cheers...AJKind -- * Al Kind, 3113 Horsebarn Rd U-193, Storrs CT 06269-4193 USA * Phone:(860)486-6126 EFax:(413)826-8780 **TeamHP200LX** ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:05:50 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: FLUFF: doct MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Nathalie Bugeaud said: > > ...actually - i know Barry quite well by now > - he is top in giving his piece (Senf in > German) on almost everything, some of it > worthwhile, but others...??? This does not > mean i want to discourage him from writing; to Actually all of my words are chock full of wisdom. I'm sorry some of it is beyond your ken. When you find yourself confused, ask the sun when it comes up daily to hear me crow. By the way, in your previous post I loved your idea of a driverless car, but I don't think it's original. I often overhear people whispering about that when they think I'm not listening. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:10:38 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: HP in the news > > Yes...the guy who created Linux was on TV and admitted that he knew > absolutely > nothing about creating an operating system. He made many appearances on > various > networks saying the same thing. His quotes appeared on TV many times > after the > microsoft ruling. I've heard that he never would have written the first Linux kernel if he knew about BSD (another free unix that, in many ways, is much more powerful than linux). > > For all the faults at Microsoft...at least have a conception of what an > operating system > should do. I have to wonder whether this guy who created linux even nows > how a > computer works. "How a computer works" is a broad statement but I would think that somone who can write a kernel would probably have good foundation. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:15:00 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Andrew Lovell Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Andrew Lovell Subject: Re: Linux In-Reply-To: <00cb01c0a194$9e22dad0$0200a8c0@openreach.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Somebody once said that Unix was not developed to protect end users from the technicalities of the operating system - it was designed for people who revel in detailed technicalities. This means that no matter how bomb-proof a Linux server is, Linux is never likely to appeal to non-technical people unless they are protected by a user-friendly shell. That means some kind of windowing system these days. Regards Andrew ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:20:31 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Hal Goldstein Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Hal Goldstein Subject: Re: Palmtop Paper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" From: Ken London <> Barely. Unfortunately (from my point of view), my good friend and colleague Ed Keefe has very high standards for what should constitute material. Ed feels the material should be new and fresh and original. Unfortunately, not much original is happening now for the HP 200LX. My feeling is that we have so much good content in the HP Palmtop Paper, that teasers/summaries that links into the best of the 9 years would be useful. Who remembers all of that. I also feel that topics that come up in this list, even if it is not completely original would be good for the newsletter. I would be curious what people think. (Ed, feel free to jump in with your point of view). <> Yes, go to our web site, www.PocketPCmag.com and click on Buyers Guide. There is lots of good material. If you subscribe to the print magazine, you can get our print Buyers Guide free. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:27:01 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux > was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating > system was or how to make one. This statement's source must either come from Andrew S. Tanenbaum or from some M$ marketing weasel. It may be true that Linus Torvalds didn't know much about operating systems in 1990, but he certainly does now. Also, he didn't design a new OS at all, instead he built on the proven design principles of Unix OS variants. > Having never used Linux, is that a major concern? I guess not, unless you do not like Linux or Unix. > With DOS being a proven platform and Windoze being somewhat > flawed can Linux really be an alternative Ý...¨ Let's strip Linux and say "Free Unix" since there are many other free and well designed Unix variants, e.g. the various BSDs. > Ý...¨ when it designed by someone who didn't even know what > an operating system was? I'm sorry, this statement is simply false. > At least Microsoft undertood the concept of an operating system.... This is an interesting statement :)) Do you have any proof for that? > I would point out I have never used Linux so I only know what I have heard > about it recently. Well, Unix isn't for everyone but at least no-one forces you to use it. You may want to ask someone to demonstrate it to you. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:34:11 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "F. Kaufman" Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In order to not misquote anybody, I've not quoted at all. I will wade in only to say this thread is again heating the environment and for no purpose that _I_ can see. Some folks like MS and some don't. Some believe Linux is the answer and others don't. It is a matter of opinion and at this point not based on any hp product this list is suppose to be discussing. And no I'm not the moderator but just an observer who has seen this type of heat being generated too often. And can see the responses are starting to rub the respondees the wrong way in both directions. Please cool it and don't respond to every instance of tit for tat. (now let's see what I've generated!!!) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:36:38 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > So if linux is so great as people keep saying how come the linux > companies are tanking on wall street? How come linux isn't flying off > the shelves at computer stores? When I was in a local computer store > yesterday I didn't see anyone preventing people from buying Linux. So why > isn't it selling? Because it's free and it's not worth the time to ask the people at a computer store about it. You carry your computer home and insert your favorite Linux or BSD distribution and that's it. I must admit, I feel unconfortable that computers I buy may silently be counted as a M$ installation even if the machine never sees any Windows boot disk. So, you may know people who have a hard time with Unix, but I know people wo have an equally hard time with Windoze. Simple buy what fits for your needs. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:39:15 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ken London wrote: > > I'm very leary about having HP going with Linux. As > bad as windoze and wince are, I have heard that Linux > has many more problems. Any here have experience > with Linux? Is it really that bad? Would it be even > less likely to play well with the 200x? I don't have an linux experience but I have a lot of friends who are using it and I've done some reading on the web of reviews and opinions over the years. What problems are you talking about? What I keep hearing about linux is praise for it's stability. Hospitals are using it because of it's greater reliablity. As for the 200lx, I think there is a Dos emulator for linux and I know there is a Windows emulator which runs Windows apps faster and more reliably than Windows does. But I'm not sure how good any emulation of the 200lx will be on a 240x180 screen and no keyboard. I think at it's best it would be clumsy. > What about the Palm platform? I don't use one but > I've heard that palm is even worse than wince. Anyone > else know if this is true? I have a Palm. Two of them, actually. It is a very simple system. The average non-tech savvy person can pick one up and be comfortable with it in less than an hour. It's extremely stable. Even writing programs on it in Forth (a language I don't know well and that is noted for crashing systems while testing) I have very few system crashes with it. When not writing programs everything works as expected always. There must be some reason so many people by them. There must be some reason so many people throw away their WinCE machines and get Palms. I'm afraid this is one battle that Microsoft has already lost. > I've also heard from other users of Linux that as bad as > windoze is...if you had linux you would probably have > 10 times more support expenses (i.e. if they support > windoze, they would charge extra $$$ to support the > linux platform and that would run into big bucks). The > impression I'm getting from other users of linux is that > it is not the answer to all of our windoze woes....that it > is a very flawed platform. While I don't have any linux experience I did work for a couple of years with a xenix system in the middle '80s. (anybody remember xenix?) And I can believe support costs are higher. Unix-like systems are designed with the idea in mind that there will be an expert available to manage the system. They were never designed to be used as personal systems by non-technical people. From the reading I've been doing about linux in the last couple of years, the producers of linux recognize that has to be dealt with and they are designing software to handle or at least ease the managment taks. My understanding of their approach (I'm not sure I have this right) is not to change linux to make it easier to use. They're adding layers that provide GUIs and tools to automatically handle linux as it is. As for support costs being higher than Windows, you can ask practically any 10th grader for help on your windows system. They all grew up with it. If you need help with linux you need to either go to a newsgroup (which most business people aren't going to do) or hire a professional. And unix professionals aren't people who've taken a 3 month course to get certified by Microsoft. They tend to be highly skilled and knowlegable people who can demand high pay. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 07:44:58 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Alfred Lee Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Alfred Lee Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, I really do enjoy and appreciate all the information. This is really educational. Thanks. Best Regards, Alfred -----Original Message----- From: Ed Padin To: HPLX-L@uconnvm.uconn.edu Date: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 7:16 AM Subject: Re: HP in the news >> >> Yes...the guy who created Linux was on TV and admitted that he knew >> absolutely >> nothing about creating an operating system. He made many appearances on >> various >> networks saying the same thing. His quotes appeared on TV many times >> after the >> microsoft ruling. > >I've heard that he never would have written the first Linux kernel if he >knew about BSD (another free unix that, in many ways, is much more powerful >than linux). > >> >> For all the faults at Microsoft...at least have a conception of what an >> operating system >> should do. I have to wonder whether this guy who created linux even nows >> how a >> computer works. > >"How a computer works" is a broad statement but I would think that somone >who can write a kernel would probably have good foundation. > >** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:54:42 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: Re: Big fat CF cards. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy! I put this same question to the UPS5 list, and Eric Lindsay replied by = quoting from a press release from SanDisk (>): > ORLANDO, FL, Feb. 12, 2001 - SanDisk Corporation > (NASDAQ: SNDK) today introduced a 512 megabyte > (MB)CompactFlash(tm) (CF) memory card, the > world's highest capacity, standard CF Type I card. > They also announced 384MB and 256MB. US$ > recommended retail prices of $799, $599 and $399. My immediate comment would be WOW! How I'd love to have one of those big = fat 512Mb CF's. Still, I think the 192Mb cards Longden mentioned would = probably be more realistic for my wallet at the moment. Maybe those will be = coming down in price a bit now? (He said hopefully... ) PS. I was browsing through the PDF manual for my Nikon camera today and = noticed that they mention that the (hopelessly inadequate) 8Mb card that = came with it as standard can be replaced with a card up to 64Mb. I'm using = an 80Mb card in the camera now... Psion officially only support cards up to = 20Mb, so any user who calls their helpline and happens to have a bigger = card gets his or her head bitten off as a matter of routine. I'm using a = 80Mb card in my MC218 (Psion 5mx in drag) with no problems... Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway http://pagina.de/naomi.j= ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:54:15 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Barry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Barry wrote: > I don't have an linux experience but I have a lot of friends who > are using it and I've done some reading on the web of reviews > and opinions over the years. What problems are you talking > about? I know of several companies who tried linux on their systems and have ended up with huge bills for customer service to straighten things out, some of these individuals are very tech savy and have had lots of problems. For them linux was the biggest mistake of their lives. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:58:05 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken Hansen wrote: > Microsoft did not design or develop DOS, they bought it from a single > programmer who "had no idea of what an operating system was or how to write > one" (to paraphrase a recent posting)... Very good point! Also, this guy reverse engineered a large portion of CP/M for his DOS. Btw, it's interesting that Digitial Research didn't sue that little startup company from Seattle who took their intellectual property to create a rivaling OS and later became a major predator when it comes to killing other startups who might be a rival in the future. At least, M$ understood the concept of marketing... +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:58:18 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Re: Notes file recovery Comments: To: "COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1)" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, COOPER,SALLY (HP-Corvallis,ex1) wrote: > Hi Jeffrey, > You probably tried this, but if not, you might go to filer, select the notes > file and try to view it (F8). If it has the password on it, you won't be > able to see anything but gibberish, but if the password is gone you may be > able to view the contents and see the important information even though the > file is corrupt. Good luck. Thanks for the info, Sally, but I can definitely say that the file is encrypted even though hpcrack says there's no password. The unix strings command goes through a file and prints out anything that looks like ascii characters. When I ran it on the file, it just came back with garbage (nothing readable). -Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:03:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ken London said: > > In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares > me is that Linux was designed by someone who > didn't even know what an operating system was > or how to make one. Linux is unix. Unix was developed by AT&T. Specifically by Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchey, both of whom rank among the greats in the computer business. Dennis Ritchy is also the co-author of the c programming language. I doubt if it's correct to say these two invented operating systems, but they sure made them what they are today. A lot of the major features of Dos and Windows came from unix. This is a little like saying Einstein didn't know how to design a bomb. > Having never used Linux, is that a major > concern? With DOS being a proven > platform and Windoze being somewhat > flawed can Linux really be an alternative > when it designed by someone who didn't > even know what an operating system was? While it's true that Dos is a proven system, I'm not sure you can say that about Windows. It's still unstable and finicky. I don't think they have it right yet. In any case, unix was designed and running on a lot of machines at least a decade before Dos came into existance. I think it's safe to say there is no more proven system. > At least Microsoft undertood the concept of > an operating system.... Surely you jest. :) Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:06:16 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Fluff HP in the news Comments: To: fjkaufman@WORLDNET.ATT.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would point out that the world needs an operating system that is better than Windoze (it has...it is called DOS). Beyond DOS, I wish their was an alternative, linux does not appear to be it. Is the version on the 200lx a full implementation? Anyone know what the difference is between that and a full implementation? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:10:26 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Fluff Re: HP in the news Comments: To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerhard Gonter wrote: > Ken London wrote: > > In all of this talk about linux I guess what scares me is that Linux > > was designed by someone who didn't even know what an operating > > system was or how to make one. > > This statement's source must either come from Andrew S. Tanenbaum or > from some M$ marketing weasel. It may be true that Linus Torvalds > didn't know much about operating systems in 1990, but he certainly > does now. Also, he didn't design a new OS at all, instead he built > on the proven design principles of Unix OS variants. > > > Having never used Linux, is that a major concern? > > I guess not, unless you do not like Linux or Unix. > > > With DOS being a proven platform and Windoze being somewhat > > flawed can Linux really be an alternative Ý...¨ > > Let's strip Linux and say "Free Unix" since there are many other > free and well designed Unix variants, e.g. the various BSDs. > > > Ý...¨ when it designed by someone who didn't even know what > > an operating system was? > > I'm sorry, this statement is simply false. > > > At least Microsoft undertood the concept of an operating system.... > > This is an interesting statement :)) Do you have any proof for that? > > > I would point out I have never used Linux so I only know what I have heard > > about it recently. > > Well, Unix isn't for everyone but at least no-one forces you to use > it. You may want to ask someone to demonstrate it to you. > > +gg > > ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml Having never used Linux is it a derivative of Unix? I've never used linux but have used unix. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:19:04 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all! First off, I want to thank all those who have offered advice. It looks like the problem started when I tried to change the password from one password to another. I tried it again on a copy of my backup and it corrupted the backup copy. I restored it again and changed the password to nothing, closed and reopened the file, and then set the new password. That seemed to work. As a test, I tried it with the default NOTES.NDB file and got the same results: a corrupt notes.ndb file. I've listed steps you can take to reproduce it below. The palmtop I've tried this on is a 32M 2x 200lx. I have a 6M 1x 200lx at home I'll try it on as well. Apparently this is a BUG. For those who'd like to try to reproduce it (and maybe even find a fix!), here's the steps: 1. Quit out of all programs. This will prompt you to soft or hard restart your palmtop. 2. Take the default notes.ndb file. a. If you remove the notes.env file, which just contains the last opened notes file, it'll create one in your C:\_DAT directory b. Copy it from F:\_DAT\NOTES.NDB 3. Password protect the file. 4. Quit and restart notes. 5. Change the password. 6. Quit and restart notes. 7. It should load up with garbage and NOT prompt you for a password. Pressing any keys now I believe causes it to lock up to the point where you need to press ctrl-shift-on. If you don't press any keys, ctrl-alt-del should work. Please contact me if there are any further questions via internet mail at jsv@sirveiss.com. Thank you very much! Jeffrey Veiss (jsv@sirveiss.com) 102 Riverside Drive Network Engineer/System Administrator Cranford, NJ 07016 Sir Veiss, Inc. (908) 272-6640 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:39:04 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > It looks like the problem started when I tried to change the password from > one password to another. I tried it again on a copy of my backup and it > corrupted the backup copy. I restored it again and changed the password > to nothing, closed and reopened the file, and then set the new password. > That seemed to work. FWIW, I wasn't able to reproduce the problem on my 6mb/2x 200LX. I quit NoteTaker, deleted notes.env and notes.ndb and reopened Notetaker ... got the welcome screen and a blank notes.ndb which I added one entry and password protected. Then I followed the other steps: > 4. Quit and restart notes. > > 5. Change the password. > > 6. Quit and restart notes. > > 7. It should load up with garbage and NOT prompt you for a password. At step 7, it did prompt for, and accepted, the password and the one-entry file displayed OK. All the times I "quit" notes, I did it via "Alt-Q" ... presumably you didn't mean to reboot. You might need to check the 32mb drive space for corruption (via chkdsk?). - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:48:15 +0100 Reply-To: m_berrier@gmx.de Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Michael Berrier Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news In-Reply-To: <3A9D21F8.E7057AD2@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really don't understand the discussion, here on the list. The point is that all LX-user are waiting desperately for a really alternative to our old 200LX, we only have small improvement we are waiting for. I don't care what system will be choosen I 'm waiting for the update LX, nothing else. Michael Berrier -----Original Message----- From: HPLX Mailing List Ýmailto:HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU¨On Behalf Of Ken London Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 05:06 PM To: HPLX-L@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU Subject: Fluff HP in the news I would point out that the world needs an operating system that is better than Windoze (it has...it is called DOS). Beyond DOS, I wish their was an alternative, linux does not appear to be it. Is the version on the 200lx a full implementation? Anyone know what the difference is between that and a full implementation? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:58:09 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff Re: HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London Unix was an OS designed at AT&T byt Dennis Ritchie, Brian kernigan and lots of other talented people. They first had to develop the 'C' programming language so that they could build their OS. It is commonly referred to as the 'System 5 kernel'. BSD (and variants) was a spinoff of the AT&T Unix for academia. AT&T was a utility company and could not sell the OS for a profit. They gave it away to colleges, including the Universoty Of California at Berkley. I think this was in the hope of getting free development and ready access to talented individuals who can work at AT&T after gradutation. The 'Berkley' version of unix soon became very different than the original system 5 distribution and became the defacto standard unix OS used by schools. The sockets API and a lot of the networking code came from there. Today, most unix distribututions have their history in one of the two branches. SCO, Unixware and SunOS5 are system 5 derivatives. SunOS4, Mac OSX and Irix are BSD variants. Linux is actually apart from both. My understanding is that Linux grew out of the GNU project. GNU is a project whose goal was to provide a free OS kernel and OS tools. None of the source code from system 5 or BSD was used to create Linux. The designers merely made Linux 'look and act like' unix but did not use source code from it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken London" snip > Having never used Linux is it a derivative of Unix? I've never used linux but > have > used unix. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:57:14 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ken London Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ken London Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news Comments: To: m_berrier@gmx.de MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Berrier wrote: > I really don't understand the discussion, here on the list. The point is > that all LX-user are waiting desperately for a really alternative to our > old 200LX, we only have small improvement we are waiting for. I don't care > what system will be choosen I 'm waiting for the update LX, nothing else. For me the bottom line is when I first brought up the question of linux I had hopes of installing and running linux on the 200lx. I get the impression the version for the 200lx is very limited in capacity. Am I correct in that assumption? ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 09:01:35 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Fluff: Einstein MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > This is a little like saying Einstein didn't know how to design > a bomb. Actually, he probably didn't. Theory, design and execution are separate, and Einstein was never (to my admittedly limited knowledge) a designer or an engineer. A semantical non-issue probably for everyone except the bomb designers . - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:08:51 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Ed Padin Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ed Padin Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news > > For me the bottom line is when I first brought up the question of linux I had > hopes of installing and running linux on the 200lx. I get the impression the > version for the 200lx is very limited in capacity. Am I correct in that > assumption? > AFAIK, there is no Linux version that has been shown to work on the LX. Mack did sucessfully port a version of Minix to the LX but, as you said, it is limited enough to have not gone past the 'gee whiz' stage. It definitely has potential as it has an IP stack and built-in C compiler. The only things it needs is some applications and access to the DOS filesystem. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:21:27 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: Linux vs Palm vs 200LX, was: HP in the news Comments: To: KenLondon@BELD.NET MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London Wrote: > I'm very leary about having HP going with Linux. As > bad as windoze and wince are, I have heard that Linux > has many more problems. Any here have experience > with Linux? Is it really that bad? Would it be even > less likely to play well with the 200x? > What about the Palm platform? I don't use one but > I've heard that palm is even worse than wince. Anyone > else know if this is true? > After alot of years of searching I have found nothing > that has the functionality and stability of the 200lx. It > appears to me that Linux and Palm are not the answer. > Anyone else had experience with either? Ken, et al; In my experience, Linux is similar to sitting on a pair of scissors -- if you get my meanin' (a pain in the a--). Sure, it's open source and written by a half a million programmers from around the world, but therein lies the problem: you can't get a consistent user interface and you can't get consistent hardware support. It's a nightmare to learn and not much better to use. I tried it for several months and gave up. It's great for super-geeks who can also program assembly in their sleep, but it ain't ready for prime time; normal people will pull their hair out! And people say that DOS is hard to use! The Palm, on the other hand is great: it's easy to learn and use, does what it is designed to do extremely well, and has a lot of third-party apps. As far as I can tell, it's major limitation is lack of DOS support. Other than that, it's great. But, of course, the 200LX and DOS are the best of both worlds -- for those of use who know DOS, anyway. ;-) As far as comparing the three of them with WinCE and Windoze: WinCE and Windoze are about equal: problematic and boring, harder to use than the Palm, easier than Linux. (Of course, flying to the moon is probably easier than Linux!) Regards, Richard A. Smith Look, ma! No vCard! ;-) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:57:30 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , hpstaber@COMPUSERVE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: HP Staber Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Peichl wrote : > Let me summarize the advantages of PALMPC over PALRUN that I found: Thanks Stefan, great explanation. That's the stuff I want to read here on the list. HP Staber/Salzburg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:15:54 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ken Hansen wrote: > > Visicalc was written by an MBA student > who was tired of performing mathmatical > calculations on columns of numbers by > hand over and over again. He didn't know > anything about spreadsheet programs (they > hadn't been invented until he invented it), > but he did a pretty good job. Visicalc drove > a large number of Commodore Pets, Apple II > and TRS-80s into corporate offices in the > late 70's. I'd just like to give some emphasis to the significans of this invention of Visicalc. I think that if you look for the single most important development leading to the popularization of computers, Visicalc is a very likely canditate. Lotus, a Visicalc clone, is usually given that credit in the history books. But the ideas in lotus came from Visicalc. Even the interface in Lotus was an extension of the interface in Visicalc. I was a professional programmer for a lot of years when I first saw Visicalc. I don't think people who grew up with today's computers and software can quite appreciate this, but I felt, on being shown through Visicalc that this was one of the most amazing things I'd ever seen. It was such a brilliant and beautiful and new idea and such a dramatic departure from anything that was expected from software or computers before. I remember thinking that there really is something new under the sun. I think I even said that, corny as it is. :) Is that overly dramatic? Yeah, probably. But I remember what I felt. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:39:44 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file Comments: To: Longden Loo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:39:04 -0800, Longden Loo wrote: >On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:39:04 -0500, Jeff wrote: >> It looks like the problem started when I tried to change the password from >> one password to another. I tried it again on a copy of my backup and it >> corrupted the backup copy. I restored it again and changed the password >> to nothing, closed and reopened the file, and then set the new password. >> That seemed to work. > >FWIW, I wasn't able to reproduce the problem on my 6mb/2x 200LX. I quit >NoteTaker, deleted notes.env and notes.ndb and reopened Notetaker ... got >the welcome screen and a blank notes.ndb which I added one entry and >password protected. Thanks for your efforts, Longden. I retested with an empty NOTES.NDB file as you did, added one record and the results were another corrupt notes file. A reboot was required. Since you have a 2x 200lx as well, I wonder what else could be different aside from the C: drive (see my responses below)? >Then I followed the other steps: > >> 4. Quit and restart notes. >> >> 5. Change the password. >> >> 6. Quit and restart notes. >> >> 7. It should load up with garbage and NOT prompt you for a password. > >>At step 7, it did prompt for, and accepted, the password and the one-entry >file displayed OK. > >All the times I "quit" notes, I did it via "Alt-Q" ... presumably you >didn't mean to reboot. Up until the NOTES.NDB file was corrupted, I used Menu-Q to quit out of Notes. When I opened the corrupt file, all I could do was ctrl-alt-del which sometimes didn't work and forced me to ctrl-shift-on. >You might need to check the 32mb drive space for corruption (via chkdsk?). Just tried that. Though there was some lost chains found and all errors were fixed, changing a notes password still corrupts the database. I also tried different length passwords. I tried "fred" to "base" which, when reopened after the password change, caused a stack overflow and went to the dos prompt (the 200 program crashed). I tried "wilma" to "fred" and that caused a stack overflow immediately followed by an automatic reboot which messed up my date and time. Also, I'm wonder if anyone knows the address and length in the file where the password goes? I wonder if I could re-insert the password manually if it would fix the file? Another note: this problem is also occuring with the database program. -Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:45:11 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Ken London wrote > > So if linux is so great as people keep > saying how come the linux companies > are tanking on wall street? How come > linux isn't flying off the shelves at computer > stores? When I was in a local computer > store yesterday I didn't see anyone > preventing people from buying Linux. So > why isn't it selling? Chef Boy-ar-dee began as a canned spaghetti that was tastier and zestier than other canned spaghettis. They were a small company in their home state (I forget which state) and they were determined to grow. So they experimented with their receipe to see what changes increased sales. Then they hit on the right combination: as bland as possible. Nothing to offend anyone. Sales went through the roof. And now they're a huge corporation. They really couldn't get anywhere when they were trying to sell a superior product. Then there is Hanna and Barberra, the two best known producers of cartoons in their day. But cartoons were getting too expensive to make so they figured out a way to make bad cartoons cheap and to fill in with clever dialog. They brought their idea to Walt Disney and he laughed. He told them that he was convinced that the American people's taste was just too good to accept that junk. So Hanna and Barberra got funding elsewhere and now we have The Flintstones, Bulwinkle, etc. So much for the taste of the American people. When Bill Gates was asked, in an interview a few years ago, to comment on the accusation from so many quarters that they produced buggy software. His answer was that they do survey's of their customers and what they want is features. Bugs were rarely mentioned by them. And then there was "Alf". Number one TV show for 3 or 4 years. Anyone who's seen it knows why I've mentioned it. When I say this in a group it never fails that someone says they loved Alf. The discussion continues after the laughter. The point is that popularity does not equal quality. Very often the thing that sells best is the thing that was designed to sell well, not the thing that was designed to be used well. Windows has it's advantages. It's the standard. Nearly everyone uses it. Nearly everything is written for it. It does certain things extremely well. It's pretty hard to compete with that. But I don't think any knowlegable developer who's worked with a variety of operating systems will ever tell you that Windows is the best operating system. Not many will even say it's a decent operating system. In fact that discussion will usually degenerate into a discussion of whether Windows is really an operating system. A lot of very knowlegable people don't think it meets the minimum criteria. I personally like Windows so don't take this as my bias. While I like using it, I recognize it's many faults and I'm aware of it's mediocrity. I like it because everybody uses it, everything is available for it and I've gotten used to it. Not because it's good. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 13:47:39 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Peichl Hmm, I cannot verify this. On my Win95 desktop, I know three ways to use DOS: 1) Press F8 during startup and then press 6 2) Shell to a DOS box from within Win95 3) Close Win95 and restart with the DOS prompt All these methods yield a different CTRL key scancode than the one of the palmtop. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:55:18 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Laust Brock-Nannestad Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Laust Brock-Nannestad Subject: Re: Fluff Re: HP in the news In-Reply-To: <015501c0a1a7$a08b7bc0$0200a8c0@openreach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Ed Padin wrote: > Unix was an OS designed at AT&T byt Dennis Ritchie, Brian kernigan and lots > of other talented people. They first had to develop the 'C' programming > language so that they could build their OS. It is commonly referred to as > the 'System 5 kernel'. Don't forget Ken Thompson - Thompson and Ritchie developed UNIX, Kernighan was less involved in the development of the OS (although it seems he suggested the name "UNIX"). (Sadly, Thompson is often forgotten because of the famous book about C Kernighan wrote with Ritchie, which makes people assume they also wrote UNIX...). Actually, the first couple of versions were written in assembly language, then the C language was developed (by Ritchie) and UNIX was rewritten in C (by Thompson). UNIX wasn't C-based until version 3. It was rewritten during the summer of 1973. Cheers, Laust ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:55:21 +0100 Reply-To: gonter+usenet@wu-wien.ac.at Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Gerhard Gonter Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken London wrote: > For me the bottom line is when I first brought up the question of linux I had > hopes of installing and running linux on the 200lx. I get the impression the > version for the 200lx is very limited in capacity. Am I correct in that > assumption? It doesn't make sense to install any other OS on the HP 200LX. Unix might be an option on more powerful hardware. More important is the question how well the PDA works with the desktop OS of choice. The 200LX works very well for me in my Unix based environment. I do not think a WinCE machine would make any context *for me* in this environment. A linux based machine OTH sounds very appealing to me. +gg ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:26:58 GMT Reply-To: headquarters@leipper.org Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Bryan R Leipper Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A9D2DEA.39E50F47@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken London: > For me the bottom line is when I first brought up the question of=20 linux I had > hopes of installing and running linux on the 200lx. I get the=20 impression the > version for the 200lx is very limited in capacity. Am I correct in=20= that > assumption? Linux, like OS/2 and Windows 95 and later, requires at least a 386=20 class processor or better. Therefore they will not run on a 200 lx.=20 (The 386 provided memory management techniques on chip that made=20 handling software requiring more than a megabyte feasible - and a=20 decent GUI with all the trimmings and other expected features is much=20= easier to implement with megabytes) The discussion here about Linux seems to be confusing a number of=20 issues and concepts.=20 1) multi-tasking versus task switching:=20 DOS systems in general do not support anything other than rudimentary=20= multi-tasking but depend upon task switching software. This means that=20= the 200lx does not provide the means to download a file or calculate a=20= spreadsheet at the same time you are editing a text document. The idea=20= of using WinCE, PalmOS, or a special version of linux on handhelds is=20= in part to provide a better multi-tasking model for underlying operation= s. 2) user interface versus operating system:=20 A primary benefit of the 200lx is its interface. It is a simple=20 character based mechanism that works well with special keys. The use=20= of DOS facilitates application development and adaptation. Linux uses=20= a POSIX compatible operating system and a plethora of user interfaces=20= from terminal oriented shells (in DOS command.com is the equivalent)=20= to X11 based GUI interfaces such as KDE and GNOME (and many others).=20= Palm and WinCE machines and a linux variant option tend towards a=20 proprietary GUI emphasizing pen input and minimizing keyboard and=20 mouse input. 3) client versus server: The 200lx is inherently a client machine - it is intended to serve its=20= user and little else. DOS and Windows are geared this way. A server=20 machine is intended to serve others - usually many others. Server=20 machines do need expertise to be properly managed and usually place=20 the emphasis on services and not on user interfaces. Linux makes a=20 good server because it can be managed remotely via simple telenet and=20= does not require the overhead of a GUI. As always - determine your needs and then find the best solution to=20 fit them. Each of the technologies I have mentioned here in addition=20= to those I have not have their own particular solution sets and can be=20= very useful if properly applied. --=20 Bryan K1CD/7 ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:27:39 +0100 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , BOCHE@DE.IBM.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Ulrich Boche Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file Comments: To: Jeffrey Veiss Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wednesday, 28.02.2001 at 19:39 GMT, Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > Another note: this problem is also occuring with the database program. > This is rather strange since Memo and the database engine use different encrytion methods. HPCRACK only works with database files, by the way. Ulrich Boche ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:34:02 -0600 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Barry Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Barry Subject: Re: PALMPC contra PALRUN MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Stefan Peichl wrote: > > Hmm, I cannot verify this. On my Win95 > desktop, I know three ways to use DOS: > > 1) Press F8 during startup and then press 6 > 2) Shell to a DOS box from within Win95 > 3) Close Win95 and restart with the DOS prompt > > All these methods yield a different CTRL key > scancode than the one of the palmtop. I just ran the same program in a dos window and on my palmtop and got the same scan code (2E) for control C in both. I used a program I wrote and have been using on the palmtop for years now. It's been totally reliable. However I don't think I've used it in Windows before. I did a quick look for the source and didn't find it but it's small and I can disassemble it if needed. By the way I have used this program and it's results on Dos 5 laptops, also reliably. Barry ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:39:54 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Jeffrey Veiss Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jeffrey Veiss Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file Comments: To: BOCHE@de.ibm.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 28 Feb 2001 BOCHE@de.ibm.com wrote: > On Wednesday, 28.02.2001 at 19:39 GMT, Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > > Another note: this problem is also occuring with the database program. > > > This is rather strange since Memo and the database engine use different > encrytion methods. > HPCRACK only works with database files, by the way. > > Ulrich Boche Ulrich, This problem is not with the Memo program but with the notes program which uses the same database engine as the database program. Thanks! -Jeff ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:17:40 EST Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Travelingtutor@CS.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Jim Gilbert Subject: Digest Filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone: I would like to read the opinions of the members of the list regarding filtering software for the mail digest. I spend quite a bit of time looking over messages that, while interesting to others, don't relate to my situation. The list used to have a format that would list each individual message according to its subject line, and that was just perfect. It was a kind of an outline of the topics. That site/format still exists, but its last message is dated November of 2000. The software would be best if it ran on my PC, but if it worked on the 200LX, that would be OK. I've checked D&A and the SUPER site to no avail. I'm sure there are commercial programs that will sort mail in one's mailbox, but what about sorting by topic "inside" the digest? Thanks! ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:13:16 -0800 Reply-To: cameronc@ix.netcom.com Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Claud Cameron Subject: FLUFF: for sale MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello to the list, I've finally succumbed to the dark side and converted over to a Jornada 6= 80. Actually, with XT-CE, it's really not so bad, albeit a little slow. = The backlighting and color screen make up somewhat for the slowness. So= , I am offering these items (i.e., cleaning out my DOS stuff) to the grou= p (please respond with $ offers offline if interested). These all run on= the 200LX: WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS: diskettes only Mastering WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS (text, Alan Simpson) WordPerfect 5.1 Instant Reference (Sybex manual, app. 5 X 8, 252 pages) WordPerfect for Dummies WordPerfect Power 2nd Ed. Microsoft MS-DOS Getting Started User's Guide and Reference (text, 668 pa= ges) PC/MS-DOS - MicroRef Quick Reference Guide 1-2-3 the Pocket Reference 3rd Ed. Lotus 1-2-3 v2.4 - manuals and diskettes FormWorks v3.0 for DOS - a "forms" front end for dBASE - reads and writes= dBASE (.dbf) files directly, .ndx files also supported. FoxPro v2.0 for DOS - manuals and diskettes, but the install diskette is = bad. However, an "installed" version of the program is included. Stacker v4.0 for DOS (and Windows) - diskettes and manual Power C and Power C Math Toolchest - by MIX Software (manuals and diskett= es) The American Heritage Electronic Dictionary v2 (?)(diskettes only)=20 MS Word v5.5 (diskettes only) Microsoft Windows v3.0 - diskettes only MS Excel v2 - runtime version - diskettes only Lotus Magellan - manuals and diskettes Minitab v8 Student Edition - manuals and diskettes (this is a very good s= tatistics program) KwikStat - manuals and diskettes - another statistics and SPC program - w= ith Advanced Regression and Quality Control modules included Calendar Creator v5 - manuals and diskettes ProjectVision - project planning software TransText-96 - diskettes and manual - a "hypertext word processor". This= is a very interesting "information processing" and "information organizi= ng" program that can be used to build expert systems, etc. _________________________________________________________________________= __ Visit http://www.visto.com/info, your free web-based communications cente= r. Visto.com. Life on the Dot. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:12:46 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file Comments: To: Jeffrey Veiss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jeffrey Veiss wrote: > It looks like the problem started when I tried to change the password from > one password to another. I tried it again on a copy of my backup and it > corrupted the backup copy. I restored it again and changed the password > to nothing, closed and reopened the file, and then set the new password. Let me suggest that your main problem is using the builtin pw protection. It isn't very secure due to HPCRACK. If you have data worth protecting I recommend using SecureDevice (SECDEV14.ZIP on SUPER) to create an encrypted logical drive. On this drive you can have your applications place their files. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:12:48 +0000 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Russel Brooks Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Russel Brooks Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ulrich Boche wrote: > This is rather strange since Memo and the database engine use different > encrytion methods. > HPCRACK only works with database files, by the way. Interesting, the SUPER description says it works on DB, Note, Phone, Appointment, and World time files. I recommended trying HPCRACK based on this description. Cheers... Russ ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:21:41 -0700 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Richard and Patti Smith Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Richard and Patti Smith Organization: Orion On-Site Computer Services Subject: FLUFF: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, my goodness... What have I started...? Richard Smith (With echoes of "Linux sucks!" "No, Windows sucks!" "NO, YOU SUCK!" and fistfights, in the background...) ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 02:20:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Owen H. Morgan" Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: "Owen H. Morgan" Subject: FLUFF: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi If the object of this discussion is finding a suitable OS for the next = generation of HP palmtops, aren't y'all forgetting something important? There already _IS_ a super stable user friendly 32 bit full multitasking OS = specifically designed for palmtop computers with or without keyboards. = Because of the fact that it was purpose designed from the bottom up for = palmtops, the GUI fits comfortably within the constraints of a small = screen. (640 * 240 in most cases.) There already are thousands of applications for this OS _and_ there is a = DOS emulator available so it can run (most of) the old DOS applications you = use on your LX. This OS was developed by one of the longest standing = palmtop manufacturers in the world and there are millions of palmtops = already using it. It comes with an onboard programming language, and can = also be programmed in C++ and Java using _FREE_ software development kits. The OS I'm talking about is not WinCE, Palm, DOS or Linux. WinCE is too = unstable, and a WindoZe type GUI doesn't really work very well on a small = screen. Palm is nice for what it does, but too limited for serious = computing. DOS is very configurable, but not user friendly enough to = attract new users and lacks multitasking and a GUI. Linux may or may not be = a good stable OS, but without a purpose designed user friendly front end, = it will never become a popular OS for palmtops. In my mind the OS I'm talking about only has one serious shortcoming and = that is the sad fact that the hardware manufacturers have provided no other = way of taking a backup or installing software from CD than connecting it to = a WindoZe (or Mac) desktop, but it's only a matter of time before someone = comes up with something smart... In the meantime I get most of my software = by downloading it direct to the palmtop from the net. Anyway, this is a = limitation of the hardware and the current implementations of the OS, not = the OS itself. Still, it leaves me in the sad position where I now own a = WindoZe notebook simply to use as a ZIP-drive interface for my palmtop and = camera. I do _ALL_ my serious computing on the palmtop. Owen -- On a sailboat. In Norway writing this e-mail on my palmtop while the Web = application is busy downloading a software upgrade (via cell phone) in the = background. I also have a total of 11 other open applications. Can you do = _THAT_ on your LX? Oh, and in case you wondered, the OS is called EPOC and is found on Psion, = Ericsson and Nokia palmtops amongst others. In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates? :o) http://pagina.de/naomi.j ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:11:15 -0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Longden_Loo@CANDLE.COM Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Longden Loo Subject: Re: More info on corrupt, password-protected notes file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << >You might need to check the 32mb drive space for corruption (via chkdsk?). Just tried that. Though there was some lost chains found and all errors were fixed, changing a notes password still corrupts the database. >> Another thought. The problem may be corrupted memory on the 32mb drive. Chkdsk will only look at the FAT chain, which is a localized portion of the disk. You may need to run a utility to scan the individual bytes of the entire disk to make sure they're OK (scandisk, or maybe something that came with your 32mb upgrade?). Also, there may be something wrong with the base memory of the 32mb unit that causes an application (Notes/Database) fault. See if your ndb/gdb files have any better luck on your 6mb unit, and if they do, you may need to reinitialize your 32mb system. Not having a "big" system myself, I'm not sure what's entailed in completely purging the system and reloading it ... but do it as a last resort, and only if you know what you're doing. - Longden ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:25:19 +1300 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Roger Whitmarsh Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Roger Whitmarsh Subject: Re: HP in the news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >....That Linus couldn't program his way out of a paper bag. Heh heh heh....nice reply Mike ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:47:17 +0800 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Teo Soon Bock Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Teo Soon Bock Subject: Re: Digest Filter In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:17 PM 2/28/01 -0500, Jim Gilbert wrote: > > I would like to read the opinions of the members of the list regarding >filtering software for the mail digest. I spend quite a bit of time looking >over messages that, while interesting to others, don't relate to my >situation. The list used to have a format that would list each individual >message according to its subject line, and that was just perfect. It was a >kind of an outline of the topics. That site/format still exists, but its last >message is dated November of 2000. The software would be best if it ran on my You might want to try http://www.technoir.nu/hplx/hplx-l/ for a more updated threaded archive. ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:54:27 -0500 Reply-To: HPLX Mailing List , Larry Tachna Sender: HPLX Mailing List From: Larry Tachna Subject: Re: Fluff HP in the news Comments: To: Ken London In-Reply-To: <3A9D21F8.E7057AD2@beld.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>Is the version on the 200lx a full implementation? No >>Anyone know what the >>difference is between that and a full implementation? a few external files are missing and one or two internal commands were added ** HPLX-L LIST Info at http://www.sp.uconn.edu/~mchem1/HPLX.shtml